yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG K7 Questions & Answers] NASSTYROME:
Advance wiping partitions will erase the data from them.

But let me explain to you how the stock rom works. That 1.2gb is not the rom size.

It's the size of the ramdisk, which is compressed and unpacked after the rom is flashed.

* The ramdisk will always take up space as it is a copy of the /system partition.

* Then you have the current "/system" partition that contains your changes such as rooted status and debloation.

* That is about 2.5gb of "/system" data that is taken up from the 8gb total phone space.

* There's about 1-1.2gb of "/data" space where your user apps get installed to and miscellaneous other directory spaces allocated.

* Alas there is"/data/app-priv" where system apps are installed which has about 1.2gb of space to spare.

& After that it leaves internal data "/sdcard" directory.

Without having your internal data space full you keep 4gb free for storage. But when you install apps they are apart of the first 4gb of phone data.

With the symbols before the spaces above being the sides of the phones space ( * / & )

Apps go into *, and no matter how much space you have in &, it will not make a difference.

My advice for space saving is to debloat your phone with apps you don't use or features you can't use. Grab an external sdcard.

Root, install titanium backup - uninstall some apps if you cannot install it, run a full backup and start removing the red coloured apps .

Be careful what you remove as it can break certain features.

But if you do break something, you can use lg up to reflash the kdz (and you can select just a partition to reflash; such as system) that will fix anything that breaks while removing the red labelled apps without removing any personalization you've made to the device.

Debloation is your best choice to deal with such little space until we get a rom that does not utilize a ramdisk.
[LG K7 Questions & Answers] NASSTYROME:
Everything checkmarked is what you need to keep to have a fully functional system with NO constant forceclosing.

What is red is system installed and green are data related to system installed apps.

There's a few items unchecked that are on that list; these are also unneeded items.

At minimum these items are all you need installed. Anything else that is red or green may be uninstalled.
[LG K7 Questions & Answers] saphta:
Thank you for taking the time to answer to my post!
[LG K7 Questions & Answers] NASSTYROME:
No problem at all. Hope this helped you tremendously on saving space.
[LG K7 Questions & Answers] myominh634@gmail.com:
Excellent guide. I haz root
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] pluginalong:
Thought it might be useful to have a thread for posting various options of storing the S-Pen (particularly for storing the S Pen in/on a case). So here's some threads, links, etc. from my initial research. I'd love to hear other people's experiences and ideas as well. :)

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s3/accessories/protective-covers-regard-to-s-pen-t3602026

Mentioned in above thread: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-pen-loop/8w1vpb3gm6nl/H1V0

This if for Apple Pencil, but still relevant: https://www.gottabemobile.com/best-apple-pencil-holders/

https://smile.amazon.com/LEUCHTTURM1917-304637-Leuchtturm1917-Black-Loop/dp/B002CWMAPW

http://reviews.shopwritersbloc.com/...ing-the-leuchtturm1917-adhesive-pen-loop.html

https://www.etsy.com/listing/207612997/pen-loop-self-adhesive-elastic-pen

Personally, I have a silver Tab S3 (and a case with a clear back), so I'd prefer an pen loop that is lighter, such as maybe tan or cream colored. The above Etsy store has one, but they're out of stock at the moment. Has anyone else found lighter colored adhesive pen/pencil loops anywhere?

Or has anyone had any experience with any of the above (or other) options that they'd like to share?

Another detail I've not yet looked into is the diameter of the SPen and what the diameter is of the various options listed above (eg, a pen loop with too big of a diameter might not hold the SPen securely).
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] muniz_ri:
It's good to see a new discussion thread. I just joined this forum after buying the tablet last week and was disappointed to see every post being from the same guy complaining about some battery drain issue. Thanks for posting.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] pluginalong:
Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]! Hopefully we'll see more activity on this forum as time passes and more people get Tab S3's!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] muniz_ri:
I used the Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Case, i-Blason [Halo Series][Kickstand] Clear Premium Slim Hybrid Protective Case and Leuchtturm1917 Black Pen Loop and came up with this workaround:
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] pluginalong:
Nice! Thanks for sharing those pics! :)

I'm curious, how well does the Leuchtturm1917 Black Pen Loop hold/fit the S-Pen? For example, does it feel too loose, too tight, just right? And if your particular setup modifies that fit please mention that (ie, I'm interested in the how this pen loop fits in it's default state).
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] muniz_ri:
The loop is unmodified but took some breaking-in. It was initially a very tight fit but broke-in nicely after a couple of days. I would hate to drop the tablet on a hard surface for fear it will not provide much protection. But besides that concern, I like it and have been using this case exclusively for the past week and a half. Having easy access to the S Pen resolved my main objection to this case.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] gottahavit:
I used a leftover Surface Pro Pen stick on to attach directly to tablet. works great will post pics if interested.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Linux:
Ye, pics please...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] chris_stubbs:
I was also looking for a case that would hold the S pen. I happened to find one. It is sold by Gum Drop Cases. If you google DropTech Clear, you should be able to find it.

Unfortunately, I can't post a direct link.

Cheers

Chris
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] rolandguffy:
I'm using DropTech Clear pen case for almost three month. really happy with that
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Linux:
Link?

Inviato dal mio SM-N920G utilizzando Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Kutusov:
I got my Tab S3 yesterday and they threw in an original Samsung Book Cover. I like it but I have to agree the magnets are not that strong, not hard to keep having to adjust it.

That being said, where do you guys put those pen loops and how thick are they? I'm afraid that attaching one to the back of the tablet will make matter worst when it comes to keeping it secured on the cover.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] skifarterking:
I store my pen on the original magnetic case, those two magnetic lines are quite strong. Not a perfect solution but not too bad either.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Kutusov:
I actually tried that but it didn't last long inside my bag :crying:. I do carry a lot of stuff with me though...

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Well, there's this... https://www.amazon.de/MoKo-Galaxy-T...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JDGSZVCKGCWZH3Z531SK
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] skifarterking:
Yes inside a bag I guess it wouldn't hold for long, I carry it this way around home or the office and so far I did't loose it yet.

But for travel i would definetly try your suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Jie_sama:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Az8yqTmwjEKRSovo2

I hold the Pen using the magnets on the back of the tablet... Just like the photo above.

I think it's very cool. And I'm considering buying two pieces of glass film to paste on both sides.

(Sorry I don't know how to post my own photos here directly.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] joot:
How did you attach the pen loop to the case? Did you cut a slit on the side of the case and just pass the pen loop through it?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] Kizznyc:
Best setup
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] aspexil:
An old eye glasses case. After my first business trip where I broke the nib I knew I couldn't leave the pen in my laptop backpack without a hard case to keep it in. I also keep the spare nibs in there too.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] darkmagician:
DIY S-Pen loop

i bought a cheap case and just DIY a loop into the case using some elastic ribbons :D
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] aspexil:
The downside to this is the nib is exposed. If you put it in a laptop bag and something presses against the nib it can bend and then when you go to use it will be broken. You need to find a solid plastic pencil cover to protect that nib.

This cover has a holder that includes a nib cover and has been working so far for me. But I still keep the S pen in my eye glasses case when travelling with my laptop bag.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0725CL4QV/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] darkmagician:
you are certainly right but that's why i added another ribbon at the end, i am still tweaking with this, the good thing is that it's a very good case and it only cost me around 10 $ so i can tweak and test until i reach a good design.

another thing most of these good covers with decent pen holders doesn't ship to where I live :D
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] mereshow:
Homade pen holder and suggestion

Hi!

I have the original Samsung case, I started using the magnetic strip to hold it, but realized that the pen fits perfectly the way you see in the picture [IMG="duh!"]https://i.imgur.com/IMcGKKi.jpg[/IMG] (I felt stupid for not realizing it before).

I also made a soft fake leather pen holder, you can see it in this pictures [IMG="front"]https://i.imgur.com/RaWRXNI.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG="back"]https://i.imgur.com/huyNQ9M.jpg[/IMG].

Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Accessories] XxReApErxX:
Damn it actually works, even with other cases!

Enviado desde mi SM-T820 mediante Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Chrizzter:
So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?

(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem :( )
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
I think you got an s8 by mistake???? i have an s8 and that ishh stutters like a mofooo!???
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL

WTF!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MrWilsonxD:
"Wtf" you are surprised the s8 stutters? ???? come on, it's Samsung we should know this by now

@OP. Are you seeing this through something like gpu rendering?

I would recommend clearing your caches, dalvik and cache. That was causing textra to constantly crash for me on this phone and my z play. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset, if not, get a replacement as you likely have a bad unit. I've had no lags or stutters even while in power saving mode..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rogue_:
I have it too and it is ****ing annoying as all hell. Damn near chucked my phone out the window. :mad:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] 3DSammy:
I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.

As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.

If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rogue_:
I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] 3DSammy:
It has been commented many times that the jelly effect is only seen by some people and not others. Luckily for me I've not one of those unfortunates. As for micro stutters I've no idea what your talking about as I've not seen that either.

I did use my Nexus 5 to get an old app off it and that is where I was really shocked at how slow the N5 was compared to my OP5. Like so much of tech a good amount of what a person feels about a device is personal perception. You seem to be sensitive to things other are not as overall the reviewers and most of the owners talk glowingly about the lack of issues as you describe especially compared to the big flag ships such as the Galaxy S8, 8+ and Note 8 that costs significantly more. I've seen YouTube videos of side by side speed and battery tests with these top brands and the OP5 smokes them.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ffh2303:
I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.

As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] bassgenerator:
you are the first what I see that he wrote such a negative experience for the Oneplus 5. According to me, this is the racket even the stock visual style. If you find a suitable combination of ROM, kernel, then the OP5 is "Stalin organ"
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Since the faulty and non-optimized stock rom from UMIDIGI, i've been looking everywhere for ROMs based in our device specs to get a better user experience.

And that lead me to this ROM. NOA.

NOA H10 is a device that is sold in Croatia and is produced by UMIDIGI. The rest is left for them to work on and until now I noticed that even though it is a 6.0 ROM it still is better than UMIDIGI 6.0 stock ROM.

Enough of this monologue and let's get straight to the procedure.

Pre-requisites:

- Flashtools - here (scroll down until you find the latest version)

- NOA H10 ROM file - Latest MM version, Latest Nougat

- SN Writter - here (scroll down until you find the latest version) - this one is to use in case that if by any chance you loose your IMEI's number (if data and calls dont work after flash)

- Little to none skills on flashing ROM's

Instructions: - Umidigi Z Pro

1. Extract the Flashtools package anywhere you want;

2. Extract the ROM package just anywhere you want too;

3. Open the Flashtools folder and open the flash_tool.exe;

4. At this point, press the button "choose" on "Scatter-loading File" and go to the folder where you extracted your ROM files. Select the "MT6797_Android_scatter.txt" file;

5. Press "Download", and with your device turned off, connect it to the PC;

6. The flashing process will start and check message box will appear as soon as it finishes.

7. All set and done. The initial language will be Croatian but I think you will not have problems searching for your language from the first drop box menu that will appear.

Instructions: - Umi Z: credits to [MENTION=2690854]philipped346[/MENTION]

NOTES and BUG FIXES:

Leave your feedback here as well as any bugs found. I might or not be able to fix them but at least everyone will be aware of them.

If you whant to install TWRP, do so. But right after installing TWRP, on first boot, go directly to TWRP and apply Supersu or Magisk. This way will prevent bootloop as reported by [MENTION=5964578]DocwatZ[/MENTION]

ENJOY!

Some ROM screens:

Battery life proofs:
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] calebash82:
Any run down of the features, benefits, and how they differ? ?
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Every feature you had in UMIDIGI 6.0 you have in this one. Only slight differences. I will be posting later on stuff like battery graph's, antutu benchmark and if I find any bug I will report too. Just give me until tomorrow or so so that the battery stats can be created.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] calebash82:
I'm hoping more to see some Bluetooth improvements (fingers crossed) as the existing BT connectivity is atrocious. Do we know if it work OK with the Z Pro as well? ?
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Still haven't tested it yet. But will after work and I will inform you on that matter. :D
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Screenshots added and dont mind the fault of signal on wifi and RIL. The signal at my workstation is a true facepalm.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] DocwatZ:
Rom installed...

It's working on Umidigi Z Pro.

I installed TWRP and that works but after coming out of recovery it no longer wants to boot.

Will re-flash and and keep testing.

FYI Camera software looks like Umidigi version. It's shame because the Gemini Pro version looks way better in my opinion.

Also... NOA have http://noa-mobile.eu/element/h10le smartphone on Preorder. Possible that the Android 7.1.1 rom from this handset will work on Z Pro to.

Keep up the good work peeps. The Z Pro users will be happy one day :good:
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
If you havent managed to do it, try reflashing ROM with SPFT Tools. Do a first reboot on device and then apply TWRP. I have mine with TWRP and root without problem. Just did as I told you.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] DocwatZ:
TWRP version?

Which version of TWRP are you using?

I've re-flashed the ROM a couple of times. Now TWRP won't install at all. I have tried a number of times with SP flash tool but it seems to revert to original recovery.

Tried TWRP_310_UMI_Z.V3.01_20170116

and TWRP_303_UMI_Z.V3.01_20170116
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
I used TWRP_310_UMI_Z.V3.01_20170116. I flashed the ROM, did the initial startup then shut the device and flashed twrp with the scatter file from here too.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
quick update:

I had to reformat my device as I was palying with gemini pro camera files and when i tried to go back to NOA ones it force closed my app. So battery stats graphs will be updated tomorrow. I can advance that TWRP, Root and xposed is working well on this ROM. Camera quality is better too with this one (cant show comparison due to reformat of mobile and forgot to backup photos. Stay tuned!
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] scroful:
hello, i have install 7.1.1 update after 6.0 stock umidigi. The real problem i have is the poor quality of the camera. I find it better when i use gemini pro rom 6.0 but the problem of lock screen forced me to return on umidigi rom. How is the focus of this rom for the camera ? The antutu score looks like wonderful ! is the phone better to use with Noa rom ?

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do you think, when the rom will be release, it's possible to install 7.1.1 gemini or 7.1.1 noa le on z pro ?

Nobody try to install lineage os umi z on z pro ? it's just a question ;)
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Welcome scroful!

I'm aware of the 7.1.1 problems on the camera. With this ROM I made a test with Gemini Pro Camera and the camera from this ROM and despite I dont have the photos to proof I noticed that this NOA camera took photos a little bit better than Gemini. For now, everything is stable and Bluetooth works ok altough I need to do more tests as there was people complaining that UMIDIGI rom was unstable on bluetooth. Tomorrow I will feedback about this and battery. Just gonna let settle the ROM for today. Probably later I will create a Custom Rom of this with xposed, root and TWRP pre-installed.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wielku:
So is there going to be Android 7.1 alternative?
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Nark0tiX:
Hi Guys,

I installed this NOA H10 rom yesterday, i see no different comparing to stock 6.0 umi z pro.

But the battery time is much better ! at the regular rom 6.0 or 7.1.1 i couldn't get passed 16 hours mixed, now i have 24 hours +-

no buggs found.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Probably. Only depends if NOA or Ulefone releases the files to flash.

This is pure AOSP like UMIDIGI but has better performance and battery. I will post screens tomorrow about that.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Nark0tiX:
AOSP? what does that mean? anyway i love the battery time on this "NOA' rom! first time i made 2 days with just 1 charge thanks for the tip

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Sorry for the language it's in dutch. as you can see at the bottom of the battery app it says:

Actief (active), Standby (english alrdy), Gecombineerd (Combined/mixed)

This was the highest rating i could get today, now it's 22hours.. which is still almost 10 hours more than at regular umiz roms.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
AOSP stands for:

Android

Open

Source

Project

It's the stockest and the true android face. Its like the base of any android. Almost.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] scroful:
If it verify that camera is better than gemini pro it would be like and Nice. In this way i Will format for noa rom. Im waiting for your feedback and if you can put some picture it would be intetessing to compare. Have you try with footej camera ? If stock camera of noa is better than umidigi stock i think we Will have Nice results. Im waiting ?
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Nark0tiX:
camera is the same
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] :
Display lag on umi z rom not really a surprise
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] midgr:
Exactly..! It would be easier to install the new rom and having a backup of the old one in case something goes wrong..

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I really would appreciate it, if and when you find some time to compile it to a flashable zip file.. :)
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] :
Well you have the files it isn't that hard you just need to convert system and vendor images to sparse format :)

Which won't take long unless you have a slow system. Though this can be done from phone as well.

Never mind got it already creating zip
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] :
For anyone to try

https://mega.nz/#!AGgGWb7Q!JtsdHZVgZVchikB4DR3u9LKoAg70zrM2Hpow5j1Qq0k

If it doesn't boot patch with Magisk or Supersu I prefer Magisk if you care about safetynet
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] midgr:
I will try it tonight!

Thank you!!
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Tesla123:
Latest stock android 7 firmware (20170802_g15v97_kw_u81a_4m.rar) for flashing with flashtool.

https://mega.nz/#!oxUCGSLI!ESTJUAvhbYGq1VY3lT14P_1fK5_gpQCr2a3ArivwNQ4
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
Where did you get that file from?

EDIT: I tested and the firmware its indeed updated. Testing it now
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] javier.pc:
But it's NOA or UMIDIGI ROM? that file name seems to be of UMIDIGI.
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] deviantor:
But its NOA. Probably was a backup from an updated ROM device because from the one that you get from the NOA site its the one I uploaded
[UMi Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] :
Most likely umi