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[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Checked out the V20 with more time tonight after I arranged for my Nexus 6P battery replacement & with Comfort View enabled + installing https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen addressed the blue screen issue adequately.

As far as the speaker (which I still didn't like but tolerated more tonight), I asked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNsMvDs_xY if he could make another video playing audio after this speaker grill mod described below which I would try if I bought it & his YouTube comments seem to corroborate a significant improvement. It's not my perfect device but for ~$400 these days it seems worth it if this is the last high end device with a quick removable battery for the foreseeable future & so far agree with the following review as perhaps "The only worthy upgrade to the Note 4 is the LG V20".

The Samsung S8+ has an impressive screen but I wouldn't buy it without knowing what the Note 8 will be offering (removable battery also not expected). So if my Nexus 6P battery replacement does not totally satisfy me & leaks confirm no more high end devices with removable batteries in 2017 then I will likely hit the buy button on the LG V20, any better deal available than:

http://www.cell2get.com/index.php?k...dvanced_search_result&search_in_description=0 ($399.99+state tax if applicable) or https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072R2JC5B ($419.99 currently sold out)?

ymDroid posted about https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIAAM853A4091 where you can see the potentially sound muffling speaker grill in question that owners have removed as detailed above, close ups below:

I can try to install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen on the store demo model for color calibration controls. Even unrooted, I find it worth the install.:cool:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] lemonz23:
So is this phone still relevant in 2017 or what? I just got this phone off of the Amazon Prime deals for $300 after taxes but after reading all the comments on this phone, I'm beginning to contemplate returning it back to them. I like to future-proof myself and all I want is a phone that won't become a slugfest after 2 years of use.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Relevant at the moment especially if you value a removable battery.. link to that Prime deal (new-which model-US996 unlocked)?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] ymDroid:
Which comments. Read the review section many folks are happy. Many folks have no issues with the speaker. And there's been a software up to the speaker since the early model. But it's all a question if you blast your audio or not. My S5 crackled at top volume. I now stream to Bluetooth speakers. But tween the software update and removing the dust cover, folks are happy.

The screen hue is adjustable to your liking.

The phone is just as snappy as an Samsung.

It has a removal battery and expandable storage.

So for $300, you stole a great phone. Which version was on sale at $300 on Prime deals? I see a Verizon model refurbished at $300. Did you get a new unlocked model, US996?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] k.dos:
That's dumb, you'd have to spend more then double to get something that beats the V20

The annoyances with this phone are minor. And the pros are huge if you happen to be one who values a removable battery, hi-fi audio and a relatively bloat free android....
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
May have to wait for better leaks-announcement on Aug 31 of the V30 before a decision on the V20 since I'm not sure if this "removable battery":good: at https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/07/14/lg-expected-to-expand-v30-smartphones-international-reach is a typo:

BY KILLIAN BELL | JULY 14, 2017

LG will finally expand the reach of its V-series smartphones with the upcoming V30, according to new claims. Not only will it be the company’s first handset with an OLED display, but it will also be the first V device to go on sale in Europe.

LG decided not to launch the V10 and V20 in Europe, and it never provided an explanation for that decision, other than it didn’t expect it to be popular there. But with phablets becoming increasingly popular in recent years, it seems the company has higher hopes for its next-generation V30.

Faryaab Sheikh, former editor-in-chief of SamMobile, claims he has received “confirmation that LG is definitely bringing the V30 to Europe” this year. He adds that it will indeed be LG’s first smartphone with an OLED display, as previous rumors have promised. The device is expected to look a lot like the G6, LG’s latest flagship, only larger.

Other specifications are said to include Qualcomm’s latest Snapdragon 835 processor, a 6.2-inch edge-to-edge display with 18:9 aspect ratio, up to 6GB of RAM, 64GB of internal storage, dual 13-megapixel rear-facing cameras, an 8-megapixel front-facing camera, and a 3,200mAh removable battery.

We believe the V30 will be making its official debut at IFA 2017 in Berlin. The event kicks off on Friday, September 1, but LG has begun issuing invitations for a dedicated press event on Thursday, August 31.

SOURCE: FARYAAB SHEIKH"
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] cpete2112:
I took the little stupid speaker grill off awhile ago and yah it's a lot louder believe it or not. But no I ain't gonna overwhelm you with bass afterwards, just like every other phone in the world. I didn't realize people rock out to their phone $2 speakers and then wonder why the quad dac ain't booked up to it. Lol
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Good to hear, I don't expect it to sound as impressive as the dual front facing speakers on my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure but glad there is a way to make it suck less-sound more acceptable by removing that obstructing-muffling speaker grill as described at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNsMvDs_xY & https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...eaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333/

I posted at https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72922171&postcount=25 that its integrated speaker/s apparently could take advantage of the quad dac (but obviously limited by its downward firing single speaker) according to reviews I had read such as:

http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v20-audio-capabilities-714807/

"The LG V20 supports audio through both the 3.5mm jack and over the phone’s USB Type-C connection. However, the Quad DAC is only used for the 3.5mm connection and the phone’s speakers, as the USB Type-C connection or wireless equivalent only deals with digital data transmission to an external DAC or set of headphones. So, the sound quality of any USB Type-C or Bluetooth headphones will depend entirely on the quality of the DAC inside these separate accessories."

Within 5 weeks the Pixel 2 XL & the V30 should be announced so I'll see what they offer but if this is the last high end device with a removable battery I will then likely buy one especially since it can be had for ~$400 & likely less after the V30 gets announced (hopefully with a removable battery but won't hold my breath based on their decision to have an enclosed battery in their G6 -

https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/27/lg-g6-second-quarter ).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] cpete2112:
Looks like no SD card or removable battery, should have similar dac, and 64 or 128 gb internal. For $300 v20 is a steal. It's a good phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Yeah most rumors suggest that about the V30 which is why I was surprised when https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/07/14/lg-expected-to-expand-v30-smartphones-international-reach/ listed "a 3,200mAh removable battery" but we'll know for sure soon..:cool:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] tylerw1369:
I was able to purchase my v20 for 160. It was in great shape and was a steal. I love it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] techyrock:
Guys which v20 is best for ROMs? from what I speculate ,the international Dual sim variant that I prefer doesnt have much of a Dev support
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
I'd pay ~$400 for a new untouched unlocked V20 if it's the last high end device available in 2017 with a removable battery & comes with a useful 1 yr warranty or is LG's warranty not worth the new cost premium (e.g. with replacement potential) making refurbished-used units worth more consideration?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] k.dos:
I decided on the US996, but after using it for some time decided it didn't need a custom ROM.

It does everything I want it to do already and I don't want risk loosing my quad dac or second screen to some buggy/poorly implemented ROM

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[LG V20 Questions & Answers] WTF?:
I keep reading all of these silly comments mentioning "audiophile" and "phone speaker" - ON WHAT PLANET does any real audiophile listen to the speaker on ANY phone?

- As an audiophile, I will give you a hint - we listen via high quality WIRED headphones such as Sennheiser HD600, Fostex TH-X00 Purpleheart, or other serious $400+ OVER THE EAR headphone, not some 50 cent built in cell phone speaker, on ANY phone!

Good Grief, Charlie Brown!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
There are times when headphones are not practical in a mobile device hence the interest in improving the V20's comparatively bad speaker.. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73196171&postcount=33

Posted today at https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/29/...ale-september-15-south-korea-tech-smartphone:

While I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who still cares about removable batteries (more than ever actually after my enclosed Nexus 6P rapid battery degradation experience following my Samsung Note 4 & 2 which offered welcome removable batteries), it seems manufacturers continue phasing out smartphone removable batteries & sadly the LG V30 seems more likely to follow the G6 with an enclosed battery:

https://www.slashgear.com/lg-v30-camera-aperture-is-massive-31493339/ "Unfortunately, the source also says that there will, indeed, no longer be a removable battery." (Jul 31, 2017)

The only recent but older link at https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/07/14/lg-expected-to-expand-v30-smartphones-international-reach/ (Jul 14, 2017) that mentioned the LG V30 with "a 3,200mAh removable battery" could have been an error.

I signed up at http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/stayconnected/v-series-phones but I may have to get a discounted V20 with its removable battery since the V30 is less likely to offer the removable battery of predecessors. If any credible leaks-links point to definitive V30 battery specs please post..:smile:

Also: https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/07/supposed-lg-v30-sketch-official-user-manual-leaks.html
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] CrimsonSaber5G:
I had a V 10 which died, I was wondering if the V20 models have bootloop problems as well?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] k.dos:
No one is saying they are using the phones built in speaker for serious music listening, only for casual sharing of videos etc.

We are only lamenting LGs decisions here.

Pros

Best in class "Audiophile" chip

Cons

Entirely average built in speaker

To me its a little ironic, to someone who uses the phones speaker, like OP here, it's annoying.

P.S. I have no issue with the V20s built in speaker, its plenty loud enough and better placed then Samsungs backward firing speaker. Some people have reported heavy distortion at volume but IMO those are defective phones b/c mine sounds fine.

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As far as I know bootlooping is not an issue with V20
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Yup I watch & casual show-share a lot of short videos where headphones are not a convenient option. It's hard to go back to a single easily muffled speaker once you're used to integrated dual front facing stereo speakers that play comparatively impressive sounds on both sides of the display like on my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure (which do not have removable batteries sadly). I also use speakerphone a lot even at times when not connected to external speakers which I didn't get to test in the store, is the speakerphone through that speaker acceptable in less than perfect acoustic environments?

Maybe the V20 I tested in the AT&T store had a defective speaker as it sounded significantly worse than my Samsung Note 4 speaker, hopefully at least comparable once I do https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...eaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333/ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNsMvDs_xY

Last night I had a new $369.99 V20 in my cart ( https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=LG+V20+US996 ) that by the time I went to checkout went up $80 which aggravated me enough not to buy it but I've read it's frequently on sale there. More leaks-posts suggest no removable battery for the V30 https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/1/16075072/lg-v30-phone-release-announcement-outline but if it was definitive I would've been faster to checkout.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] OneDon:
US996 Factory Unlocked is the way to go. ?, Fair amount of developmental support, overall a very nice phone, I mean come on every phone nowadays with dual camera isn't like the v20 with one being wide angle, you get a quad DAC "some likes it some don't care too much for it" removable battery, SD card, and it's unlocked. I know the overseas variants has the b&O tuned DAC but it's not worth it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
I did consider the international LG V20 H990DS model because it's been <$400 for longer, I currently still use T-Mobile & notably for its dual SIM but bought the https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=LG+V20+US996 on sale for the Verizon access potential just in case as I'm mainly in the US..
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] OneDon:
Crap it's way much cheaper now, I paid $799 from b&h ... Well I pre-ordered mines but dang tha price dropped big time. But you chose the right one. You could say the the H990DS is a good steal but if you care about development "custom ROMs, Kernel's and such" then your gonna have the worst of luck with it. That variants got root I think... I think lol that's only if to care about such stuff if not then it's a good steal still.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
I first saw the V20 in a nearby AT&T store when it first came out for ~$800 so it felt like a low risk deal when I picked up the US996 in Silver last week for $350/$375 w/tax especially now that removable batteries in new high end devices may sadly be an extinct feature.. I may contact B&H to find out if the Silver US996 is discontinued by LG or B&H as https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285961-REG/lg_lgus996_ausasv_lg_v20_4gb_ram.html listed "discontinued" shortly after I bought it (even before mine actually shipped so was glad when it did). I immediately customized other launchers like I always do but eventually I might root it especially if that's the only way to get Android 8/O (though maybe not until I potentially get the Pixel XL 2 if it's reviewed favorably)..:cool:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] flyingkytez:
Yes, it's very worth it. Especially with the price dropping to $350, I highly recommend it. The camera is just okay, low-light and fast focus doesn't mix well. The 16MP shooter does well in broad daylight, sucks indoors. The wide angle is fun, front camera is not too bad, I LOVE the ultra wide angle front camera (no other phone has this), you'll be taking so much selfies. The removable battery feature is a dream, feels so liberating going from 15% to 100% in seconds. Battery life has never been an issue, I have 4 spare batteries and an external charger. My previous Samsung Galaxy phones were sealed and the battery started to deteriorate after under a year. A lot of manufactures are removing the headphone jack and releasing curvy glass phones, not my thing. The V20 is the last true Android phone with some of the best features still on it: removable battery, IR blaster, always on 2nd screen display, dual front + rear regular and wide angle lens, durable metal build military grade quality, a FLAT glass screen, correct rear fingerprint scanner placement, useful knock to wake screen feature, and more. Oh yeah, since it's an IPS display, you don't have to worry about screen burn in. I'm keeping my V20 until it dies.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
Someone reported LG V20 US996 screen burn in at https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/how-to-fix-lg-v20-screen-burn-t3658844 , hopefully uncommon & looking for ways to avoid it: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73478565&postcount=13 I've been able to avoid screen burn in on all my devices except I just noticed yesterday my Moto X Pure with its super bright IPS display with some sudden central ghosting or burn in (not horrible but backlight no longer seems even like something is pushing down on components with some tracing-I'll see if I can capture it when I get a chance), it's the only device I haven't changed the battery since it's not user removable so could likely have a swollen battery that could be causing some compression-damage on internal components..?

Since you have 4 spare batteries and an external charger for your V20 could you recommend something ideally with links: https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/recommend-best-current-lg-v20-spare-t3659903 -Thx:cool:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] flyingkytez:
I have the US996 US unlocked model and never have seen any type of screen retention (different than AMOLED burn in). My 2nd screen display is on 24/7 and I don't see any retention. I did hear reports of some V20 users on another forum that had that issue, possibly a batch of them have it. It's only temporary and not permanent like AMOLED screens, goes away after awhile, or when you cycle through colors. BTW to avoid it, don't use your screen at 100% max brightness for too long. Also, if you notice the issue, immediately exchange it. If you want to get rid of the retention quickly, watch a stuck pixel fixer on YouTube and run it on full screen, I do this with my laptop all the time.

LG Battery Charging kit BCK-5200 for LG V20 (Battery + Battery Charger + Battery Case) International Version, No Warranty

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5C23SV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_827MzbHJJZXQB

I bought the battery kit on Amazon, it's an authentic LG product, packaging looks like it came from Korea though with no US warranty. As for the extra batteries, I saw several of them brand new, overstock on eBay for around $8-10. I recommend looking at the sellers feedback and asking them questions to make sure they're authentic and not knock offs. There's a lot of overstock and refurbished batteries online. I highly don't recommend buying generic external chargers, I bought one from China and it made the battery extremely hot! Only use the authentic LG charging cradle kit (colored white).

This eBay listing looks legit, that's how the packaging should look like in that plastic bag with the LG sticker on it:

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/322632129624

The V30 is coming out but I'm not all that interested. Removable battery is a privilege to have. I don't really care about the awesome new V30 camera, I already have a small point and shoot camera that takes amazing photos.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SMARTPHONEPC:
If I'm gonna get another smartphone without a removable battery it'll more likely be the expected LG made Pixel XL 2 for the Android updates likely to be announced in October but we'll find out about the V30 next week (expected to lose its removable battery sadly:rolleyes: but may provide clues for the Pixel XL 2)..

I'm trying a stuck pixel fixer on YouTube full screen upside down on my Moto X Pure (~21 months old) to see what happens with the image retention/burn in (looks like the mild burn in you might see on old light bulbs) I noticed Sunday but my new LG V20 screen looks great even if it doesn't get as crazy bright as the Moto X Pure, the V20 gets plenty bright.. During the day in bright environments I do like to use it at 100% brightness but I'll try to use Auto brightness & lower brightness settings when possible to help the battery life & screen longer term if it could help avoid screen issues mentioned at https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/how-to-fix-lg-v20-screen-burn-t3658844

At https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/recommend-best-current-lg-v20-spare-t3659903 I posted links about batteries & almost bought today https://www.amazon.com/LG-Charging-BCK-5200-International-Warranty/dp/B01M5C23SV (I have Amazon Prime & gift credits there so tend to prefer Amazon) when the price dropped momentarily but http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-accessories/lg-BCK-5200-v20-cradle linked me yesterday to https://jet.com/product/product/8500884f4ced4f23b5b005da023ec8b5 (where I also still have 15% off) as an authorized dealer where it doesn't list no warranty like on Amazon so I may clarify the warranty issue with Jet.com since I may buy 2. I'm also curious about https://www.amazon.com/2-3200mAh-Replacement-Batteries-BL-44E1F-Protective/dp/B06ZYX1D5H because of the 5 star verified purchases & USB port (but like you I tend to prefer chargers made by the manufacturer unless there's a lot of positive feedback on a generic). Anyone using any generic chargers?

I noticed even the LG charging kit reviews mentioned it gets hot: https://www.amazon.com/LG-Charging-...ref=cm_cr_dp_d_search_rgt?filterByKeyword=hot (do any chargers not get hot which is subjective without objective reference data) so if Jet.com's http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-accessories/lg-BCK-5200-v20-cradle comes with the warranty then I may get it/them there. Also with the V30 coming out soon will LG even bother to produce newer V20 battery stock or only their old stock but 3rd party-generic batteries from hopefully reliable companies should continue..:good:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] jasonv31:
I picked up two v20s on the bogo deal [MENTION=259357]Tmobile[/MENTION]... my cost is $240 each (after i get the rebate etc). Once i sell my note4's ill be at about $40 each total cost. Too good to pass up :)
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] HD2FORNICK:
I'll chime in too. I bought a mint Sprint V20 on Amazon for $230 and after card rebates, etc. it was $170 and the seller threw in a genuine spare battery also. I spent about $19 to get it remote unlocked and am now using this with AT&T.

I absolutely love this phone and its features. The main camera when used in manual mode is kick a$$ and the wide angle needs a lot of light to shine but it is also very useful. I am an audiophile and this phone has replaced my XDuoo and Fiio DAPs. They were sold on ebay after one week's of listening to audio on the V20 :D

Metal build, removable battery, decent cameras, kick a$$ audio and I am all set.

I just don't know if this remote unlocking I got is a permanent feature but other than that, I am a very happy camper. :good:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] batkinson001:
I am a new v20 owner, I got mine through Freedom Mobile up here in canada when they were doing a promotion for it last week, what would normally cost me $520 CAD upfront with the carrier I got for $0 on a $20/month tab on a 2 year contract. The outright cost of the LG-H915 is $1000.

The speaker doesn't bother me, so I won't be removing the grill. My phone came with a preinstalled screen protector which I thought was nice. Certainly better than any I could do myself.

Can you guys recommend any cases that are like the G5's Lifeproof? I used to have that phone and case and it was worth the high cost for it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] EnIXmA:
How is the lte signal for you while on lte on freedom? Mine constantly fluctuates for some reason
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] batkinson001:
Mine is perfect. I don't get reception in my apartment building but I believe it is due to the age of the building. Thankfully I have the wifi calling feature enabled. Calls and texts come through fine.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Amd4life:
I have a few family members to purchase phones for and I have some TMobile credits. So for that have ordered a TMO V20 RECENTLY did it come with the "P" firmware or the older preferred "K" firmware

If I can't root the V20, I will use my credits on some other devices, to use my credits up