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[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
That's great, but the ISO fired at only 1262.

Whenever I take a shot in similar lighting, auto mode uses ISO 3152, which means there will be a lot of noise.

Perhaps there are different software versions going around, because my phone has very poor low light performance in auto mode due to it using a far higher ISO than it should.

I'm not expecting such a small sensor to handle ISO well - I'm expecting that the camera won't default to a ridiculously high ISO like 3152 where my previous Samsung S6 was happily snapping along at ~1000 with stellar results.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] presets:
Yes, everyone knows that this isn't a DSLR. But when they claim to have the best smartphone camera around I expect better results. I also don't know why they use a smaller sensor than before... This phone goes for 749 Euro and the low light results often look like from an old S5 or iPhone 4. The Automode just isn't usable in this scenarios. If they deliver an update they could solve the issues, I guess.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] rom116:
Turn on pro mode and drop ISO..
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] presets:
And here in the first sample you can see what I mean with this weak OIS...
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] oldwolf613:
Zico, as someone else said go Pro mode & get lower ISO, & even if this phone's camera sensor is smaller than prev ones, - compared to a Pro(sumer) DSLR, this fone's cam compared to prev one vs.

DSLR is like the choosing pinch hitters who bat .249 & .253- the smaller fone sensor is just a bit less than the prev *slightly* bigger one- then there is the density of pixels & dynamic range that make for a good camera - Y am I still talking abt this?
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
Pro mode and manually selecting ISO is not a solution to a poorly tuned auto mode - it is a workaround that is barely tolerable.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] cliffr39:
I wouldn't say it is a workaround. Anything outside of professional equipment will have a harder time at 3000+ ISO. Increase your lighting or use a tripod with longer exposure.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
Of course it will struggle at 3000 ISO, the point is that it shouldn't even be attempting it in most cases.

The pictures I take in lower light could just as easily have been snapped at 500 - 1000 ISO.

The problem is that the auto mode decides to bump the ISO up too high.

I feel like I've repeated this same point in different words about 3 or 4 times now, but I'll keep needing to whilst people try to tell me that struggling with 3000 ISO is to be expected, which isn't what I'm complaining about.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] doyou37:
I agree. Auto mode should be much more conservative on ISO levels.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] presets:
Just compared it with an old MS/Lumia 950 yesterday evening and night... How is it possible, that a two year old device with an outdated OS can still produce sharper, clearer pictures with less noise than a new phone for 749 Euro that is advertised as the phone with the best smartphone camera? (but yes, you also have to switch to manual settings)
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] foxy4270:
I think you have faulty camera...i had lumia 950 before and now i have htc u11.

I can confirm that u11 camera is miles ahead.

Check this out

All auto...iso=1142

IMAG0256 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] presets:
Nice :good: But either you have a "magic" unit of the U11 or HTC has massive quality problems. Cause also in other forums people talk about much noise and weak OIS and / or HDR-processing. I will test again in evening / night but I can´t imagine that the U11 is "miles ahead" in terms of camera, especially not in Automode. And in daylight the 950 has 20 MP which gives you simply more details.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] TheEndHK:
After owned three weeks of U11, I think the camera is only good for the fast dual pixel focus technology and real great HDR+ auto like google pixel.

Image details on the other hand, though it is doing a good job but 12MP definitely isn't enough but 12MP to the point got the best balance between good lighting and low light environment that's why Samsung and Apple are all using 12MP.

The OIS is there but weak, my previously owned S6 the OIS reduced more handshake both photo and video.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] oldwolf613:
Fotogs who know better, know how & when to use manual: focus, ISO, exposure, & white balance. Using manual is not a 'cop out' it is a sign of technical proficiency- not to rag on the idea that auto ISO might go too high by default; or those who complain about it- but this as a fone, mp3/video player, internet device, mini-computer, & then a camera.

Expecting any fone's camera to perform like a full blown DSLR is like expecting adigital frame to have HD quality & TV/Computer monitor quality.

You have a good claim if auto-iso starts too high. With Pro cameras you can set the working range of auto-iso. By all means, contagt HTC & get a patch or update for auto ISO, but this is a U11 not a D5/500 or 6D Mark whatever…
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] rowihel2012:
Auto mode is **** in low light it use too much iso like 5005 soo high

I'm using pro shot app and it is much better than stock

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Or use manual to reduce iso too 800 or 400 or 200 to get good photo
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] dreamnoob:
sry if i sound stupid but how do all of you get more then 800 iso in pro mode? mine caps at 800 :/
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] schmeggy929:
800 is the highest in Pro Mode
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] foxy4270:
This is not true...or you dont know how to use camera.

Htc u11 has the best auto ever in a a camera.

Highest Iso i have seen in very dark scenes is 2500
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] rowihel2012:
No not great indoors low light alot of noise

But great with manual

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Copy my name to facebook and pm me i will show you the problem
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Ammymike7:
I am from New Delhi, India. I received my U11 today. I have just one issue with the camera. The super overexposure and blowing up light sources. I have read in some threads that HTC has fixed it. I am not sure whether that update arrived in india or not as of now.

You still have the issue?
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] neelgaganslg@gmail.com:
I really don't see any issue with U11

Seriously I don't seem to find any issue with HTCU11, just check out my lowlights click by U11 here, I doubt you might have got a defective piece or so...

Edit : Damn unable to attach link as per there restrictions
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Ammymike7:
What's you camera app version?

Also, what's your phone's software version? 1.13?
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] neelgaganslg@gmail.com:
Ammy

Hello Ammy I have email'd you those 4 pics taken with my U11 under low light conditions, I can check them out as per your asking.

My cam version is 9.20.933505

Software version is : 7.1.1
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
A solution for your low light troubles,

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/

Google Camera with working HDR+!

I have installed it and can confirm that it works on the U11 and that it drastically improves auto shots in low light.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Alpert3:
I confirm the pure Auto mode without lowering the touch exposure will make the image kind of too bright and creating noise. (I'm one of the photographers who contribute for HTC China Weibo account and HTC Taiwan Instagram account)

Most of the time I lower the exposure then make it brighter after I shot it (using apps). (Be sure, my contribution photos sent to HTC are all no edit, only the photos I use for my personal Instagram or Unsplash account I would tweak them)

I sent the suggestion to HTC already. But since I am not using U11 China or TW version, i don't know if it's optimized in the latest 1.26/1.27 update. I'll ask other contributors and come back to you.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Allesa:
People complaining about noise here suits Samsung phones better. If u want near noise free images in low light, but loses details and colors because of the super aggressive noise reduction, get a S8. I my self content with fine grains on my photos as long as details still present.

Or hell, get oneplus 3t, shoot with HQ mode, that gets u noise free photos also at the expense of detail loss.

These noise coming out of low light indoor photos are fine grains, not blotchy noise ruining details.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
The camera over exposes low light and does so with an overly high ISO setting. The results aren't just noisy, they are not a true representation of what was photographed as they are a lot brighter than the actual scene.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] rowihel2012:
Same problem after latest camera update

When I shot any low light shots

Iso is too much high

Like 3000

Or even 5005?

Now I'm using

G camera latest version with long exposure for low light shots

It's iso optimized to less than 100

To take less noise
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
I’ve been using GCam for several weeks now, and in my opinion it works better for my purposes.

However, I have figured out the problem with HTC Camera. I urge you all to try this simple experiment yourselves.

1. In low light, take a picture using HDR set to Auto.

2. Next, take the same picture with HDR set to On.

Now, compare the pictures and you will notice that the HDR On picture is significantly worse - very grainy, lots of noise. The HDR Auto picture is much cleaner.

Finally, compare the file properties. You’ll notice a big difference in the ISO, where the HDR On picture has almost 2000 ISO higher than HDR Auto.

Conclusion - use HDR Auto all of the time, unless you have a bright daylight scene where HDR On can bring out a better dynamic range most of the time.

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Also, this goes without saying, but you should also definitely set touch exposure to on in the settings. This goes for any camera app you use.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] kurkosdr:
IMO the stock camera app in my HTC U11+ reeks of massive fail. It just lets the picture in without any kind of noise reduction whatsoever, just like phone cameras did 10 years ago.

I don't care what the "pros" here or in DxOmark say, they are the same "pros" who say we should set the white temperature in our TVs at 6500K that makes pictures all yellowish and lame (instead of something more natural like 7400K) and that we should upscale 720p videos with billinear instead of using a sharper filter.

I am not the kind of person who likes the iPhone's heavily processed photos or likes to watch TV with the chroma and sharpness set to 11, but this kind of "purism" that HTC opted for in this case is silly and ruins the camera.

BTW I sideloaded the hacked Google Camera app which kind of works, at least it doesn't make the furniture look as if they are made of embossed paper even in well-lit rooms.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Al3xxxinho:
Well, I think that HTC is not providing same quality for same money.

Basically, me and a friend both have an HTC u11, both dual sim versions, running the same version of android 8.0

My phone: has a red-ish tint on the screen / camera is worse in the same lighting conditions

His phone: screen is more pleasant to look at, does not have the red-is ting / camera is better in the same lighting conditions

Both phones have JDI LCD panels.

I'll upload two photos and let you guys judge which one is better:
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Zico 10:
Taken by the same person? One is definitely focused much better than the other, so perhaps not a fair comparison.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Al3xxxinho:
The focus is one of the problems :) both are taken by me from the same position :)
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] alexutzu2:
ISO 10000 HTC u11 low light

ISO 805
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] kurkosdr:
This, this is why Samsung is raking in billions while HTC is almost bankrupt: Consistency vs lack thereof. Some examples from personal experience:

HTC Evo 3D: Misaligned camera lenses ruining the stereoscopic 3d effect on some phones

HTC One M7: You either got a purple-haze camera that got worse over time from ST or a greenish tint camera from Omnivision. I once got both from eBay!

HTC One M8: Some of the models had a "light-grey", less well-anodized metal (again, got both from eBay, M8x phones have the light-grey metal while M8n have the dark grey metal)

HTC 10: Battery problems on some batches (from a friend)

HTC U11/U11+: You either get a perfect camera or a very grainy one (I got the grainy one, despite ordering straight from HTC UK :crying:).

Does anyone know how we can see what sensor our U11/U11+ phones have?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
######################################

This is NOT the Freedom OS that became known with the OP3/3T devices

recently. This is pure stock LG plus some alternative Google apps. It's

name comes from the fact that the installer will give you full access to

choose what you want to flash to your device !

######################################

​

DO NOT COPY MY WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION

IF YOU DO MODIFY IT, AND WOULD LIKE IT INCLUDED, CONTACT ME

YOU WILL BE REPORTED IF YOU ARE CAUGHT SHARING THIS AS YOUR OWN PROJECT

I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRICKED DEVICES. THE ROM DOES NOT MODIFY CRUCIAL LG FILES

Freedom OS v1-4 is MM based

Freedom OS v5 + is N based

FEATURES:

Passing SafetyNet Check |

Do NOT disable Logcat to pass SafetyNet Check [Installer Option]

H815|H811 29A Stock Base.

Legacy Support for Substratum and OMS with Magisk Module ( if the theme creator has included such modifications )

Rooted only if you choose it

Lower and different LED light upon touch to reduce useless battery drain

Improved Speakers volume

Auto-Trim all disks on every ROM or GAPPS package update

I/O Tweaks, CPU Tweaks, Kernel Tweaks, pre-installed

System mount filesystem performance tweaks

Wakelock blocker

Flash it to find out more....

SCREENSHOTS:

Screenshots folder

INSTALLATION GUIDE:

its absolutely crucial to have the latest TWRP BETA release or the latest beta from my Android File Host

Download the latest build

Reboot to TWRP (Keep your TWRP up-to-date cause i use the latest updated installer)

Install the Rom using adb sideload or If you downloaded it directly in your phone, just install it by tapping the Install in TWRP and navigate-select the rom.

Aroma installer will guide you through.

Reboot.

You will have to wait a few minutes. On 1st boot it will cache all the apps.

ISSUES:

None as far as i know

DOWNLOADS:

H811 (deprecated): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=194682

H815: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=194680

Alternative direct mirror download link (Netherlands) for the latest build: H815

From now on builds for H811 in the T-mobile Freedom ROM thread by TecknoFreak

THANKS:

@Chainfire - SuperSU

@topjohnwu - Magisk

@renzetti.s - For the LG G6 Launcher

@TecknoFreak - H811 Freedom ROM

@kessaras - Thank me for taking my time to make this !

DONATIONS:

@seetru,@HorstiG - Much Appreciated !

XDA:DevDB Information

[H815][N]Freedom Rom, ROM for the LG G4

Contributors

kessaras

ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.10.x

ROM Firmware Required: Nougat v29A +

Based On: Stock LG

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: 3 +

Stable Release Date: 2017-07-08

Created 2017-07-01

Last Updated 2017-11-12
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Reserved

Latest firmware

(will always be up to date)

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=194933

or

http://droid.binbash.it:8008/stock/LG/h815/29a/

Titan kernel G4-H815_Nougat

https://xdaforums.com/g4/development/g4-t3667878

Official LG kernel with BIG CORES disabled

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=209418

My mods folder

| choose your mod.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=194942

*Optional*

Official TWRP Modded

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=192089

​

~No discussions about TWRP here. I'm not TWRP developer, i'm just modifying a bit the official.

TWRP discussions to TWRP thread~

HTC-fy yourself for HTC lovers. (NOT included in the Aroma. Otherwise you'd have to download a 3gb ROM)

https://xdaforums.com/g4/themes-apps/htc-sense-8-t3612440​
[G4 Android Development] 2mx.me:
six
[G4 Android Development] stefan.kurz:
First of all... Thx for your work. I will try the rom. Is this the continuing of imperium cause slim has changed to op3t?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
nope ! This is an idea of mine.

Freedom is not imperium,

It's pure stock plus anything people want. Everything with an aroma installer to give everyone choices of everything.

Kernel is also stock uncompiled - translated - added some imperium branches - compiled (translated back to the language the hardware "understands") and lastly to avoid any bugs compiled to boot.img
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
i wanna inform everyone about my plans.

Further more, ok customisation is one thing and the aroma installer will have everything included,

i will remove gapps from being pre-installed.

It's annoying to clean flash a rom and wait one hour for updates. Plus that LG will never update. So i don't see any reason on Gapps being pre-installed.

You will all flash seperately Gapps just like you do on AOSP/Lineage Builds to keep your phones always up-to-date.

~If my plan is wrong , feel free to correct me~
[G4 Android Development] stefan.kurz:
First of all it is your rom, so its your choice. In my opinion you have to decide between stock based rom or custom rom. To many compromisses makes the system buggy and laggy as many examples from the past show. Just make a fine, clean and fast rom (just my opinion).
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
I will stick to stock as a base cause the biggest feat of g4 is the camera. When and if we get Android 7 LG drivers , I'm changing to lineage based for sure.
[G4 Android Development] stefan.kurz:
Just flashing your Rom. Ist IT possible to use Nova Launcher?

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How can i deleted the Name of the Provider left side above?

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Do you change the Resolution? It looks like
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Nova isn't free !

Provider name is where it always was, in Settings -> More (where Airplane mode is) -> Mobile Networks

Nope, i only change the density. You can change it to anything you want from 530 to 640 (default) or bigger.
[G4 Android Development] stefan.kurz:
I bought Nova AS they Sold it as a special offer around christmas. Is IT possible to Install a few lg Apps, for example the Calender?
[G4 Android Development] Dade97:
Thanks a lot for a new rom...

can you add the 6 quick toggle in notification drawer?
[G4 Android Development] stefan.kurz:
Yes they are
[G4 Android Development] seetru:
I can't seem to get developers options to unlock, do I need to check a certain box during install?
[G4 Android Development] Dade97:
Is possible to have the lg app like gallery and video player?

I don't like the sony album and video
[G4 Android Development] seetru:
yes, in aroma installer select the lg apps you want and uncheck the sony-fy box
[G4 Android Development] Dade97:
No, i've tried to do a clean install whitout sony-fy but nothing changed.

sony apps is installed with an without sony-fy options

maybe an aroma's bug?
[G4 Android Development] seetru:
did you wipe your partitions first?, I have installed 4-5 times now without sony apps
[G4 Android Development] Dade97:
yes , many time

EDIT: ops I forgot to update the twrp with the one provided on 1st post....:rolleyes:

now i try again

EDIT v2: even with new recovery sony album and video where installed after wipe system and data

now i'm trying to download the rom again
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
you use different phones :D

ill add LG gallery for h815 too. tomorrow will be there.

The thing is that h811 allowed me to keep more bloat. H815 is TOO bloated with crap from LG. You will notice that in the builds size. Although H811 build is smaller , it has more apps. Anyway , ill see what i can do. It was in my plans anyway.
[G4 Android Development] HubertGT:
Can I simply flash v4 version over v3 ?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Yup
[G4 Android Development] HubertGT:
So I have to check all aroma's options again just like while clean installation of v3?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
it doesn't matter. choose whatever you like. if you want to have the same apps, then yes choose them again , otherwise they will be deleted.
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Magisk 13.3 solved that issue. You may now remove the script and update
[G4 Android Development] maydayind:
What's new in v4 any changelog.

Or is it just magisk updates?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
One page back
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
An early piece of information for everyone.

Some of you already know it, some do not.

Being on a stock based rom, it doesn't mean that you can just tap update and do it.

Until now only the very old users experienced it, users since 2016 do not know it.

All of us that have twrp recovery , we can't just tap update and do a full firmware update. Update will fail and we will also cause a bootloop.

So thats the main reason i removed the update center from my rom. Other stock roms though still have it.

Careful with that. Don't even think about directly updating to nougat.

Wait until you get a flashable rom that will be flashed in TWRP, otherwise use only the usual .kdz method to flash stock nougat from LG.

And besides, when we get the .kdz , it's only one day away until we have a flashable one ready ;)
[G4 Android Development] seetru:
first xposed release for nougat is out, just in time for our update for nougat on the g4

Link is here: https://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-v87-unofficial-yes-im-t3639192
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
its for nougat 7.1.x. i think we get nougat 7.0
[G4 Android Development] davcataa:
I just flashed this and of course I get the boot loop. Every rom that I have tried using the aroma installer causes boot loop. If it doesn't use aroma then everything goes fine. This is the fourth rom that aroma installer seems to have caused this. Anyone know why this is?
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Unknown to me at least. Wanna try search amarullz and ask him ?

He is the aroma installers creator. He may ask for any logs to find the cause. If there is anything he asks but you don't know how to do it I'll be glad to help.

Ask in pm anything you need and don't know. Here everything works so it's impossible to debug a non existing bug
[G4 Android Development] davcataa:
Ok thanks just thought I'd ask cause I thought maybe someone here might have come across the problem (tried searching and came up with nada). I will pm the creator and see what he says. Thanks for offering help if needed! :) I thought it was strange myself but you know...Murphy's law! I was able to get into twrp and fixed it for now. :good:
[G4 Android Development] sartana:
Hi, someone know why i can't use google now everywhere? Any option related is gray and can't be selected. I intalled mini gapps and whan i try to go on text to speach settings com.android.setting crash, can be related?

Inviato dal mio LG-H815 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G4 Android Development] kessaras:
Did you simply choose in my aroma to install Google search or the Google pixel/Nexus launcher which also installs Google search because it needs it ?

Mini gapps don't have Google search and also installing search from play store doesn't install the ok Google.

Dirty flash my rom again and choose search or pixel launcher

And don't install gapps. My latest version has them preinstalled

Edit:

Thanks by the way , I need to update the op . Since I already have gapps , no need to flash them separately
[G4 Android Development] Laghie:
Hello again!

I have a question about kernel tweaking: is it available?

Can I set maximum frequency for big cores?

Thanks