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[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] :
I don't know, but the best way to find out what is going on and possibly get it fixed is to get a log while the device is booting, and properly report the problem and provide a log in the Xposed thread.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] domenci:
Yeah I mentioned that a couple posts ago, I'm not sure how to go about getting that log. I found how to get it once the phone is booted up but can't find a way to view it live or grab it once a boot has failed and I pull the battery
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] KevMetal:
why pull the battery out ? hold power +volume down until you boot to bootloader ..then using the volume keys navigate to recovery and press power to select recovery as boot option

go to advanced tab in custom recovery ..click on logs ...tick include kernel logs ..swipe to copy logs to sd ...download app from Play to read them ...this will copy dmes logs and there might be something about boot in there

humour me and try two things

wipe cache after installing

flash no-dm verity zip

try to boot and allow at leasy 15minutes

are you using magisk 14.3 o 14 ? if 14 update to 14.3 . are you on Qualcomm or mediatek ?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] domenci:
I tried the keypress while in bootloop but it didn't work, that is why I pulled out the battery. Maybe I didn't do it long enough, I'll try next time I have the same issue.

I did the other things already, but I'm going to give it more time here in a bit.

I'm on the latest magisk. xt1768 (QC). I'm pretty sure if I tried to flash any arm version on a mediatek device it wouldn't work at all and I'd have much different problems that what I'm describing lol
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] KevMetal:
just flash no dm-verity after xposed and wait

-im sure you did but just remember to enable usb debugging in developer settings

-im using ARM on mediatek variant...only one that works

mt6737m is using arm cortex A53 architecture
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Can't compare this Xposed to ones on older phones. Very different.

A lot more is being optimized in 88.2 as opposed to 88.1 (means longer first boot), especially if you have alot of apps installed. Stock has a bunch of apps too, they all have to rebuild caches and optimize. I think the one you have working cuts out many of these " optimizations" which is why it boots faster.

In Android 7.1, apps optimize alot different than they used too. They build caches and optimize depending on usage, and potential usage. Meaning it changes based on usage, Very complex (that's one reason it took rovo so long to release Xposed for it.

Older versions of Android (and Xposed) didn't act that way.

Okay, I've blabbed on enough.

Rovo89's post here explains some of it.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] domenci:
yeah I think I'm going to give it another go later on this evening and I'll give it 30 min to boot before I call it. Hopefully I just didn't wait long enough!

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Edit

well I'll be ***! Waited just over 10 minutes and it booted up. Guess I just didn't wait long enough before. cheers all
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] _izant_:
How can I restore stock firmware on a Verizon e4? A few weeks ago my phone started bootlooping, with no warning signs. Just pulled it out my pocket and it wouldn't fully boot up. I can't seem to get RSD Lite to recognize the phone, used 3 different cords and 4 different USB ports on my laptop. Please help!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] RLB1996:
Hello what the good small DPI for the Moto e
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] BandzTFM:
RSD doesn't work on USB3 so if you have a regular USB port, use that or try on another computer. I just use ADB & Fastboot cmds to restore mine. It's easy and quick once you have the stock ROM in .xml.zip form

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I think 320 is the best smallest
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] takkun324:
Verizon Moto E4 to PagePlus?

I am very confused. I've purchased a Prepaid Verizon Moto E4 ( XT1767 ) and am trying to use it with PagePlus prepaid.

I think I've unlocked it but I didn't actually input the code. Taking the verizon sim-card out before booting it. Since I didn't have a spare SIM card, I eventually (after a day) found where to input the code (Settings -> More -> Cellular Networks -> Change Network) so I then purchased an unlock code. When I went to enter it, the "Change Network" menu option was missing! I heard putting another SIM would bring up the menu so I purchased a 1-dollar Total-Wireless BYOD sim-card. After booting with the new sim-card, the cellular-network icon was lit and said "4G"? The Verizon sim still attempts to activate.

Between purchasing and receiving the code, I was customizing the phone on Nov25 2017 and wasn't thinking: I installed a system-update (NDQS26.69-23-2-3) which might have either removed the lock or took away the ability to unlock it -- I don't know.

Currently, without a SIM-Card, the phone:

Has the "No SIM card" notification.

Missing a cellular-network icon but instead has a gray SIM-card icon with a slash through it.

In the settings under Cellular Networks: "Data Enabled", "Data Roaming", and "Preferred network type" is grayed out.

The preferred network type shows: "LTE / CDMA" (in gray, of course)

PagePlus AND Verizon show my IMEI as "not compatable"?!?

verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/#checkDevice

pagepluscellular.com/activate/new-activation/

Note: I can not locate a non-4G nano-sim for PagePlus -- otherwise I would try that. The $10 and $12 plans can't be used with 4G phones.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] aadvandersteeg:
So we don't getting new (up to date) rom's anymore?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ewokmojo:
The night mode feature has disappeared. I had it working for awhile, the setup wizards when first using this phone allowed me to activate it. It disappeared! I liked it! I've tried the gear long press and it does not work on this phone. I've held the gear down 10 seconds, I've held it two minutes... The system UI tuner has never activated. What gives?!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Night mode is in the moto app. And system ui tuner works fine.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
In the moto app
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ewokmojo:
Night display works great. I had the moto application disabled. Still no

UI tuner...
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
[MENTION=8751469]takkun324[/MENTION]

The Verizon prepaid XT1767 can be unlocked for GSM (AT&T/TMo) use. If you want to use it on Verizon/Verizon MVNO, you must use an already activated sim. There is much more info about it here. Scroll down to the community wiki, and/or do a search of that thread.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] SashaNT86:
Stupid question, but...

Hello all,

So I'm part way through rooting my e4 and could use a little help. Bootloader is unlocked, twrp is installed and fully functional. I've tried flashing supersu several times with different versions, magisk, and phh's superuser and I still don't have true root. No verify has been flashed and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Magisk wants a virgin bootloader, which I don't have, and the system variant of supersu sends my e4 into a bootloop.

I would like to avoid reinstating twrp, as it took two days and many tears.

Specs:

Software channel: retus

Sku: xt1768

Purchased carrier unlocked

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! :)
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Magisk does not want a locked bootloader. It will give root. Modules will not work though unless you flash the patched boot.img posted in the forum, or use the f2fs loopback bug workaround. Did you format data after the noverity.zip? To decrypt
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] SashaNT86:
No, I haven't formatted yet. Is that what's preventing magisk from rooting? And please forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by modules?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Yes, you have to decrypt your phone. And I mean magisk modules. Magisk is systemless root, and has a bunch of systemless mods called modules. It's all in the magisk manager app.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Should really spend some time in this thread. Yes, it's a "wall of text" but very helpful to new Magisk users.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] :
I can't post external links, but If you flash the no-verity-force-encrypt zip, that's floating around in recovery before Magisk and you'll be able to keep encryption, and use Magisk. There is a setting in Magisk to "preserve force encryption". You will see it checked. I have been able to get everything working without formatting data. It's not guaranteed to work without formatting though.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] calinb7:
I just got a Verizon Prepaid Moto E4 from Walmart ( XT1767) for my wife. Yeah, I expected the carrier lock and bloatware but In all my pre-purchase research, I never suspected that it would not support adding users, like my Lenovo purchased Moto G4 Plus and even my cheap Android Nook can do. We really need multi-user, because we will swap phones from time to time. Sadly, I guess we are SOL with this E4, because it is unrootable and its build.prop file cannot be edited.

Am I correct or is there some kind of workaround I've not discovered with search?

I really hate all the significant and irreversible feature and behavioral variations in Android. In this respect, Android really sucks when compared to GNU/Linux (or even Windows, for that matter)!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
From a carrier perspective multiuser devices are bad. I can understand why Verizon disables that functionality on a heavily subsidized, post pay device as it encourages sharing which reduces revenue. Unfortunately, no way to enable without root or the ability to modify/replace build.prop (which requires root).
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] calinb7:
Thanks for your reply, Davey126! That's what I figured. :crying: The problem with all these cell carriers is they lie like rugs (just take a look at coverage maps in the rural western U.S. and then drive around with your phone and several SIM cards and you'll find that about half of the "covered" areas are not actually usable for even voice or text) and then the carriers obfuscate the available features of their products and services too.

Microsoft does the same thing with Windows, but at least they are consistent with the feature sets of "Home," "Office," "Enterprise," or whatever version so you know what features you'll get. Sadly, as with cellular companies, the computer companies then add bloatware, but at least it's an (often somewhat undesirable) "add" rather than a "subtract," and it can almost always be uninstalled.

Verizon will unlock this phone WRT carrier after I've spent only $75 on prepaid plans, but I'm stuck with an un-rootable device forever. Next time I'll just buy a phone from Lenovo as I did with my G4 Plus and get a bootloader unlock code with the deal so I will actually own the phone instead of Verizon!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Yep - my strategy for most Android devices. While comfortable rooting/tweaking/unlocking/etc. I really don't care for the practice and rarely make modifications beyond those needed for core functionality and respectable battery life. Done the custom ROM thing a gazillion times (yawn) and spent countless hours 'optimizing' only to wish I could have that time back for IRL where it really matters.

In your situation a XT1768 ($100-125 retail) probably would have made more sense including multi-user support right of of the box without rooting. Note you can purchase a carrier unlock code on eBay for $2-3 USD. Having done that I can can now use my XT1767 with any GSM carrier and *most* CDMA based carriers (with some restrictions). I never activated the device with Verzion...and don't plan to.

As an aside, I own a pair of E4s (XT1767/XT1768) along with a G4P (XT1607). Decent gizmo provided you don't push them beyond what they were intended to be.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] calinb7:
Spent time? Yes--I think I am slowly acquiring that same wisdom! :highfive:

I did not anticipate the single user restriction in build.prop. My wife is temporarily living in the mountains of rural Idaho. Verizon perpaid is actually the most economical phone there, for when we have a need to contact each other immediately, because it roams on the Inland cellular network (for 20 cents per minute on prepaid and no extra charges on postpaid). No MVNO works there, AFAIK. I wanted multi-user so we can swap phones back and forth when we visit each other. That way I can use her surplus data (she doesn't need much data and can't even use it there in the mountains). She uses VoIP at the local library wifi for lengthy calls but she was not generally contactable before I got the Moto E4 for her. In a few months, we will not need the Verizon prepaid plan on the E4 and I'll probably put an H20 sim in it and turn it into an even cheaper-to-keep "backup" phone. By that time, Verizon should remove the E4's carrier lock at no charge (and if Verizon balks or refuses, it's probably cheaper, time-wise, to spend the couple bucks on Ebay for a code rather than attempt to argue and fight with them). It might be best to just make the Ebay purchase from the onset, rather than try to deal with the nearly un-contactable Verizon customer support!

Except for my oversight about multi-user, I hope my strategy and usage model is valid!

Yes--I'm impressed with the E4. It would've still been only about 1/2 the cost of my G4 Plus, had I bought it from Lenovo and it certainly has more than half the G4 Plus capabilities (assuming multi-user for the E4 when purchased directly from Lenovo).
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] woahOppO999:
So i know this is a stupid question. But ive never dealt with Motorola androids before & I would just like some help finding out what I need to do for root/TWRP capabilities, left screenshots of my system specs, im on Verizon but don't use data. This phone is a steal for $80
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
If you got it from Verizon (Verizon branded device), there is nothing you can do for root. Bootloader is not unlockable. No root, no twrp. Sorry dude, but that's the case with many Verizon devices.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] woahOppO999:
Okay, thanks, still worth the $80 stock? lol
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Definitely still worth it.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Poster likely has the XT1767 variant. For another $25-50 USD (depending on current promotion) one can get a carrier neutral XT1768 that can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. I have both devices. They are physically and internally identical. The XT1767 is a fine phone if one has no interest in rooting/tweaking or moving to another carrier.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Where did you get that one?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1342873-REG/moto_01150nartl_moto_e_16gb_black.html

Picked up mine w/$25 discount yielding a bottom line just north of $100 USD. Bootloader unlocked w/Magisk and stock ROM. Works a treat on Verizon.

Snagged the XT1767 from Walmart for $40 (regular price). While I only use it on WiFi I did purchase a carrier unlock code on eBay for $3 and verified GSM operation with TMobile. Unfortunately, not rootable at present but no big deal for my use case.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] cameroncr95:
That is precisely one of the reasons I just switched from my Moto g4 play Verizon to a Moto e4 boost. Unfortunately having some problems with boosts bloatware but it's working itself out. I miss my g4 though. I know e4 is a better phone overall but I was just comfortable. Wish I could have unlocked it and rooted it. It's an amazing phone otherwise. ?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Got mine from virgin mobile (same as boost, sprint) . Nice phone, easy root. Only bummer is no LTE on custom roms.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] cameroncr95:
So if I were to install a custom rom would I have to use CDMA? I have had an issue where I needed to switch to CDMA and it seemed to speed up boosts slow data speeds bit strangely I noticed it breaks hotspot if I try and use cdma. I'm not sure if it's just this device having troubles or what but I have boosts $60 unlimited extra plan which includes 20gb of hotspot data and when I try and connect my computer web pages don't show up unless I switch back to lte.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
It's a CDMA phone, boost (sprint) is a CDMA network. It's always CDMA. But you are switching manually to CDMA only, which is obviously killing something. You just leave it on lte or global or whatever the stock setting is. LTE is your 4g. No custom roms have lte working on sprint or any of it's mvno's (boost, virgin, etc.). You will only get 3g (if that).
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
What app will enable my led light for text messages rooted Moto e4
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] KevMetal:
Nothing ... Use your front flash ..

Herrrr

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-frontflash-notification-v1-6-t3734332
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
Front flash? There's no setting to enable flash for a location I need an app that will do that
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
volume
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] Animus Rex:
Confusion about rooting XT1766 (Mediate)

Hey guys I've been searching the forum and firstly, I have a sprint variant e4 on a GSM network and I know CDMA is different and aren't compatible with each other but I've been seeing conflicting info and I'm wondering if I can unlock this phone to use on Verizon?

If so, I'd like to know where to begin to unlock bootloader(what is that?) and or / root? Also what ROM is recommended to flash? Sorry if my lingo is incorrect Its a lot of info and confusing to me.

Thanks for your insight sorry if this has been posted before I've read some related threads but nothing I can see specifically answering my first question .

All the best.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
I have a moto E4 rooted a location icon stays on and tell me why
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Something (likely an app) is using the hardware GPS. Maps, social media, pokè, etc.

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You will need to find the exact model (eg: XT1766) to understand unlock options. Lots of material available in XDA and other forums (example below); search is your friend. Plan on spending a fair bit of time reading, reading, reading as you have much to learn. It is beyond the scope of this thread to define basic terminology/techniques used to mod Android devices in an outreach post. Things will become clearer as your knowledge expands. The community is here to help with specific E4 questions once the foundation is in place.

https://xdaforums.com/moto-e4/how-to/moto-e-guide-to-rooting-t3652982

Edit: similar to above but for a closely related device (Moto G4 Play):

https://xdaforums.com/g4-play/development/unlock-twrp-root-nearly-noob-proof-t3516900
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
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[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
I have a Moto G4 rooted location icon stays on I know it's I know it's an app how can I find out which one it is
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Easiest method IMO is to disable/freeze apps one at a time until you find the culprit. Shouldn't be that hard. There are other indirect approaches such as examining permissions but you'll probably end up spending same/more time interpreting the findings.

Google if you don't know how to disable apps on Android Nougat.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
How do I freeze apps titanium backup wont install on my moto e4 rooted
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Dude, use the native apps tool under settings. If it only shows "uninstall" then use a different tool like SD Maid.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] happymedium22026:
How can i backup my moto e4 rooted device on Windows 10 Surf and sound like a dumb question
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Boot into TWRP and perform a backup (tick system, data and boot partitions). Direct backup to SD card if possible. When complete tether device and locate TWRP folder from Windows Explorer. Copy/paste contents of TWRP folder to the destination folder in Windows.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] loneflyheart4273:
I have a? My moto e4 dont have mass storage and idownloaded one but i dontknow. How to root it
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
What do you mean you downloaded a mass storage? This phone takes sd cards and USB otg.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] jbmm20:
Any way to bypass google frp im a noob watched many vids n can only get so far i have a moto e 4 verizon
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Probably not without the original password.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
FRP would be useless if it could be easily (or not so easily) disabled. Worked with my spouse's handset which was ripped from a rest room right before her eyes. Rear facing orifices disguised as humans know no boundaries.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shogunreaper:
can someone tell me if there are any differences between these 2 aside from the carrier?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/U-S-Cell...-Prepaid-Smartphone-Black/601306780#read-more

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/boost-...-phone-licorice-black/5845332.p?skuId=5845332

Looking around it seems like the verizon one can't be rooted/bootloader is locked. But can i install custom roms on those other 2?

also can you use those with verizon network or is only the prepaid verizon one compatible?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] sd_shadow:
the Walmart one is a XT1768, which you should be able to unlock the bootloader according to

https://xdaforums.com/moto-e4/help/psa-motorola-bootloader-unlock-supports-t3635239

the best buy is a XT1766

I'm not sure about unlocking.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
The Wally World offering represents an excellent value if it is truly a XT1768 *and* U.S. Cellular hasn't forged a deal with Lenovo/Moto to block bootloader unlocking. Best price I have seen on a XT1768 from a reputable retailer is just north of $100 USD. Me thinks it might be too good to be true.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
[MENTION=5981343]shogunreaper[/MENTION], [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION], [MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION]

I have the US Cellular XT1768. It is bootloader unlocked and rooted. I got mine back in October through eBay for $50 at the time. $69 is still a very good deal at Walmart. I wrote about it back in October - if interested, check here.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Excellent info and write-up. Appears this one is a winner. Really no downside over unbranded XT1768 based on (relevant) discussion in the linked thread. Best to verify everything (exact model, unlock eligibility, carrier compatibility, etc.) shortly after purchase in case US Cellular goes a different direction. 14 day return window at Walmart on unactivated handsets.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shogunreaper:
alright thanks guys, seems like that's probably what i'll get.

So is this the best budget phone for this price? I've been looking and haven't been able to find anything better.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] sd_shadow:
I bought the XT1768 though Walmart, and was able to unlock the bootloader through the

Official Unlock My Phone page

OEM Locked

Flashing Unlocked
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] Dzyans15:
Hi there.

I just bought my wife one of these, the xt1769 and whilst researching cases we noticed some places sell e4 and e4 4th gen. Is there any physical differences in these? Google didn't have anything on the front page.

Cheers
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
It's just a typo. Moto e4 is moto E 4th generation. But there are many different versions, including 2 different chipsets.

But all are Moto E 4th gen.

I don't know which version xt1769 is.

Sprint, boost, and virgin mobile are xt1766

There are versions from 1761 through 1769.

All have differences. Sprint version doesn't have a fingerprint sensor for example.