yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crobs808:
hmm, no idea...I use TomTom 7 and DCDs roms...TomTom sees my GPS fine, and the maps are good, as always. I suggest people use TomTom...it auto-finds your internal GPS, no need to prime it with GPSViewer or anything like that...plus, it is so much more robust than any ofhte GPS software....tons of features, looks pretty, and runs faster than a free program like Live Search even.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gbenj:
seeing the gps isnt the problem, it works fine, just for some reason, data is buggy on the newer version of it. it picks the gps up fine, and shows my location moving around, its just on blank tiles cause they cant load once gps is enabled. i use garmin, but am not completely happy with it, its slow to load, and hogs alot of memory. ur saying tomtom over garmin?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
Personally, I like Garmin over TomTom as I find the POI's are much better and the maps are much nicer looking. Other people disagree. You should install both and decide for yourself.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kflipproductions:
does Garmin still need a hack to work with internal GPS? i search around the forums for a while but didnt find any solid information on what needs to or should be done.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
You need to install 2 files for it to use the internal GPS
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kflipproductions:
do you mind posting them or pointing me to them? or a post where all the instructions are located so i can stop bothering you? =p
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
PM me. Can't discuss it on here.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thugindwnlow1:
yeah...i downloaded Google Maps......still nothing same error

I am able to run the program (iguidance) but it just does'nt locate me!!!

arghhhhhhhhhh!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thugindwnlow1:
ok finally...........i tried GPS view....and it WORKED!!!>.......i am gonna try it to work tomorrow!! lets see...its picking up good signals now!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thados:
help please

hello everyone! this post has me really excited GPS for free woo hoo! however my system rom and radio rom versions are way out of date:

system = 2.09.605.8

radio = 1.30.60

carrier = verizon

so in the begining of this thread it gives instructions to get certain vital information before upgrading my roms..

my problem is that dialing ##spc# the number that getspc gave me after i gave it my hex esn..just connects me to a verizon message saying it cannot complete my call...

any help is appreciated, thanks in advance!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ande8150:
Check out this blog for lots of geting started instructions:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jdiperla:
New updates to how to get your XV6800 working with GPS can be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=421008

Download the new WM 6.1 update before using this though.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] del4:
GPS requires recent cell connection?

Was in Europe recently (no Sprint coverage, so I was in flight mode the whole time) and was surprised to find that the internal GPS on my Mogul wouldn't pick up any satellites, no matter how long I left it running (with apps that work fine here in the states) with a clear view of the sky. Tried several soft resets, but nothing. When I got back home, I tried it again after putting the phone in flight mode and was surprised again when, this time, it worked?!?

Didn't find mention anywhere in this thread or elsewhere, but is anyone aware of a requirement that there be a relatively recent cell tower connection in order for the GPS to function? Maybe to help the GPS get its initial fix after a cold start, especially when it's far away from where the last fix was obtained, similar to how my Magellan GPSr operates? Given most people assume that the internal GPS runs in standalone mode, a cell connection shouldn't be required, but my experience seemed to indicate otherwise. 'Course, maybe it was something else at fault?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Osteo:
Been posted before but our GPSr is regionally dependent based on a setting in the registry. Currently its set for "US" but I don't think anyone has figured out the other regions yet...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] del4:
Huh, first mention of that I've come across and would definitely explain what I experienced. Sorry for asking it again since my search obviously wasn't thorough enough but I thank you for the response! :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
I've updated the Verizon GPS wiki. Everything you need to know about Verizon GPS/aGPS on any rom can be found there. Enjoy.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] skizzlez:
debug info

Hey guys/gals,

I'm having a problem with my gps here. I just installed dcd 3.2.6 and the radio 3.42.50, I checked the external gps settings, and they are correct, comm4 and rate 4800, automatically box checked...

It is not connecting to any satellites.

I have 2 questions:

1) how can I get into debug info on dcd 3.2.6? the number doesnt work, and the fieldtest is not in windows...

2) I am currently in a verizon extended network (not receiving evdo) so I could not do *228 and program my phone and do roaming. So, I manually programmed my phone. It receives texts, sends them, and phone calls... could this be my issue?

Id assume its issue 2, but lemme know what you think

thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jbryant314:
GPS CRASH!!!! Need help plz.

I'm with Alltel and I have done all that is needed to lock on to GPS. After 1-2 mins sometimes seconds of lock my phone crashes (resets)!!! And it seems no matter what program I run this freak'n phone loves to reset itself. I have tried custom roms, hard resets. No apps installed or running but Google Maps, or Live search.... CRASH!!!! can anyone help???? or direct me to a thread

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] necromis:
QuickGPS and Garmin Mobile XT

Ok, I have a question regarding locking on to sats....

I thought I read somewhere that you have to install quickGPS prior to your GPS software, for the added software to configure and work with QuickGPS. Is this correct? I am asking because I first installed QuickGPS with the bad copy, before installing the one that DCD put together, installed my Garmin software, and didn't have *great* results. Would get locks, but not real quick, and took 3-10 minutes each time. Uninstalled QuickGPS and had same luck. Then I have now reinstalled the fixed version of QuickGPS and it seems like Garmin is finding sats, just not locking into the 3rd plus one.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
If you do the aGPS fix, then you should not need QuickGPS anymore. However, if you are just using standard GPS, then yes, you should install QuickGPS, it doesn't have to be the first program installed, you can install it at any time.

Basically all it does is download the ephemeris data and then help the GPS receiver know what satellites to look for and what frequencys to listen on.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] necromis:
the agps fix is changing the registry from 2 to 4, right?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] iampedro:
Has anybody tried the iGuidance 2009 for your phone yet? Also what amount of memory does this program normally use?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vellyg:
thanks very nice post fam
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Soundy106:
Ya know, QuickGPS has *never* worked on my phone (always failed to connect), until the latest dcd release... first couple times I tried it after that, it downloaded perfectly, and GPS fixes improved dramatically. And then it started to error every time I ran it. I downloaded and reinstalled it, several times, as well as reinstalling from an old copy I had... and it still errors.

"The file 'QuickGPS' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."

WTF??
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kk0813:
I am using AT&T FUZE with NATF ROM. This script with AstroGPSLauncher is working great for IGuidance. Since I am using ATT, in order to launch IGuidance, I need to first disconnect the data or else it will take long time to open IGuidance. Is there any way that this script disconnects data, before launching GPSGate or IGuidance? After using this script I keep forgetting that I need to stop data first :).

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mma123:
I have tried TalynOne script. I also looked into other solutions. However, none can handle backlight properly. I have seen that iGo manages backlight gracefully in my Mio WinCE 5 device, Hermes and Kaiser, both WM 6.1. I do not have the technical know-how to go in and find out the technique iGo is using.

I think, it would be very helpful if some of the XDA's great minds help us with proper direction.

Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vince_wonk:
Let me introduce myself, I'm Vincent Wongso from Indonesia. I have a weird problem with my Titan. I can lock satellite under 2 minute after i tried a lot of tweaks and software. but the problem is, when i use my garmin, it shows that i'm in the south china sea nearby vietnam. Can anybody help me to solve this problem? i'm using 4.1.2 dcd rom, QuickGPS, GPS Viewer by Holux, Garmin XT mobile, Mapking 2007.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] JustinDevine:
Alternate working GPS solution

I am brand new to the PPC world, but I have learned a lot from this forum. Now that I have gotten into the PPC world I figure I'll stay with HTC. Anyway I read everything from here to the end of the internet on enabling GPS for the XV6800. Everything looked fine, I could even see some NMEA codes using Holux GPS Viewer v1.5 but since I didn't know what they were supposed to look like I couldn't understand why my GPS still wasn't working. I tried all the "start' options (Hot, Warm, and Cold) but still nothing. When I would go to the "GPS Status: tab everything was blank. Anyway, I found a different program called VisualGPSce which is also good and free. GPS wasn't working with this either, but I noticed an interesting piece of info. VisualGPSce read out that I had "Satellites In View: 7" and Satellites In Use: 0" I figured something had to be wrong about that. Fiddling around, I clicked on the little red flashing button in the lower right corner (which you can see in the screenshots in the link provided) and bang everything came on, I could read out all the sat info and google maps started working correctly as well. I can't explain why the Holux program didn't work for me and this one did, I am just offering another option to anyone trying to get their GPS to work. Perhaps someone with a more detailed knowledge of how the GPS works can explain why one worked and the other didn't. Maybe this will help someone.

Rom dcd 3.3.4

Radio version 3.42.02
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
First read the last few pages here for cabs for agps. Also if you have pri version 2.03xx gps will never work with a custom rom. So you need to downgrade to pregps rom to remove pri block and then go custom.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=423231

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sank:
Thanks Drew

Sorry I didn't see this before. Mustn't have PRI 2.03xxx.

Got it this time.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] HuginOkMunin:
Duuuuh!!!! Read the little words, Dipstick!

I was having problems with getting the GPS to stay working. With a New radio ROM (DCD's 3.42.50) and OS ROM (DCD's 4.1.2) the GPS would work for a while. As I tested programs, it just quit and would not run again until I redid the ROMs. :confused: Then it would happen again!

Problem was I had

Virtual

GPS and not

Visual

GPS...Duuuh! Every time I tested it, VirtualGPS was writing a code to the registry that was cutting off the GPS signal! GPSOneDevice was changed to Virtualcom @HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers].

I found it with PHM Regedit and that wonderful "GPS related registry entries" list (at the start of this thread) by TalynOne. When all else fails, check your settings by that list!

It's all works as advertised.....A BIG THANKS to DCD, TalynOne, PHM, and all the XDA gang for all the great help!!!! I'm heading out to get lost for awhile! Thanks to you, "I'll be back!" :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] puckalicious:
Ok I think this must be why my GPS does not work, but can you explain to me in baby steps what I should do? Those threads appear to have different starting points than where I'm at.

I started with a new xv6800 a few months ago that came with the MR2 update and radio 3.37.78 (and PRI 2.03). I unlocked and flashed mattsm 23506, then recently flashed the radio to 3.42.50.

I don't fully understand what you mean by "downgrade to pregps rom to remove pri block".
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
Do this link. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161

After you downgrade unlock, flash gps radio, and then go straight to custom rom. Never install MR1/2 if you want gps running without a data package
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] puckalicious:
I never installed MR2, it came that way on my phone since I just got it new from Verizon in October.

One last question, when I follow the relock instructions, will I still unlock with olipro 2.4 like I originally did?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
Yes unlock with 2.47 or 2.4. I was just stating to never reinstall mr1/2 if you want gps without a data package
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] JHXDA:
WM 6.5 (6.5.3) and GPS without data plan?

I had just asked this question in another thread but go figure, I finally find the answer after posting the question. Since I need to avoid Maintenance release 1 and 2 to be able to get GPS without data plan, can I still upgrade the ROM to windows 6.5 (maybe even 6.5.3) and still get GPS wthout data plan?

Thank you
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cjbarth:
I use GPS Sport Tracker for Offline mode. It is free and has all sorts of nice tracking features for walking and such. It can use maps from several sources and you can cache them for any area in the world.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wallywallyv:
I have been using Tom Tom Navigator 6, google maps, and Live and everything works great. Out of those three i like Tom Tom the best. Turn by turn works great the sats keep pace with my car.

I feel it is much better than google maps and live as it keeps the orientation of your car in line with the map (and 3d view).

Only problem i have had with it is when it starts it does not detect GPS signal, so i have to go to gps status then it finds the sats I'm connected to.

So far I'm very happy with how this ROM turned out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] zmokin:
FWIW, I have an older version of Iguidance (2.1) and it works fine.

I've also set my baud rate for all of these gps programs to 115k and so far, everything is working great.

In addition, I set my phone location to 'off' and all is still working. Call me paranoid, but I don't like the thought of 'any' program being able to detect my location without my knowledge - not that I'm on the run or anything like that! :D

Anyway, just thought I'd share some of my settings.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] VulnoX:
Does anyone have another link to QuickGPS? I searched around the forums and all the links I found pointed to the same place as the OP, but that is not working it seems like.

Thanks!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rangie:
Nevermind. got it working. Output to com2
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] astanix:
I have this same problem.

I can't get any sat connections on GMaps or in GPS Viewer.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fragilityv2:
Im having the same issue now. Though it did work on Sunday night, now I am unable to get any sort of sat connection. I also tried the software in the first and 2nd post, no luck with either of those.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] astanix:
Well, I updated my PRL using this page: http://www.corolada.com/prl/

My PRL was 60610 before, and now it is 60611.

After updating my PRL, my GPS seems to be working.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TalynOne:
Really? I just tried it on a test drive and it worked for me. I had the same issues before applying this work around, but GPSGate fixed it. I set the source as COM4, and made a redirect to COM port 2. Pointed IGuidance to COM2, and everything was dandy.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fragilityv2:
Did that via *2 and no go, still not connecting. Seems weird that it would work that way anyhow as the PRL has zip to do with the GPS from my understanding.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TalynOne:
It doesn't. More likely than anything a software/radio reset most likely fixed his problem.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fragilityv2:
Done more resets than i care to remember lol just having the worst luck acquiring a sat signal with this thing lol
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] daclothe:
great post thanks for taking the time and reposting it here!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gooberpea33:
Check This out!! ---->http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9195/mapopolis-gps-software-to-be-discontinued/

Sound like in March your Mapopolis may cease to work. Just thought I'd inform you.

~TDM~
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fragilityv2:
My question is this... will the box start to scroll only once it communicates with the Sats?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TalynOne:
Yes, that's correct.

Ok folks, the FAQ has been updated with GPS software notes and workarounds.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fragilityv2:
Thanks for the info. It seems as if as far as the programs are concerned I don't have the gps. I've used a few different programs, like gps test and gps viewer and neither give me any details or will connect to anything. I'm running outa ideas....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TopGun2000:
QuickGPS doesn't seem to help quick cold start for me.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kgokal:
Anyone find a solution to the extremely slow acquisition of a signal after soft-reset? It takes a good 3-5 mins to get a signal, 1x or EVDO.

I have great EVDO where i am though... Other then that GPS works great with TomTom6... super happy aside from signal delay.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shlee1326:
:) TalynOne !! You are the man !
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rangie:
I tried again with it set to com2 and it worked. It can't initalize but if I start the GPS with another program it works.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mstevens:
I can't see why this would be true. Some areas are 1X only and Google Maps works fine there. Google Maps and Live Search have no difficulty downloading maps over WiFi, either.

I live in an area with very spotty cellular coverage. On the only occasion when my Mogul's GPS was working, I drove in and out of cellular coverage areas. Sometimes Google maps would keep my position but not have a map it could download. When I got home (where there's no cellular signal) I could walk around my house and watch the location dot move around the satellite map downloaded through my WiFi.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vincemash:
Have iguidance and TomTom installed, TomTom working great, iGuidance having same issues as everyone (so choppy it's unusable), wish there was a free alternative to Franson GPSGate. Keeping both installed for now, hopefully iGuidance will fix this issue soon.

Astro GPS Launcher working as promised also. I like that the shortcuts use the original icon files.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] AstronusX:
There is 'GPSProxy' freeware app that look like can replace GPS Gate, try it out see if it is work for you

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpsproxy/
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TalynOne:
I created an iGuidance one tap autolauncher. If GpsGate is not running, it starts it. The script then stores your device's current Power timeout, and backlight timeout and brightness settings. Then sets your device for no timeouts for power and backlight, and sets your backlight to maximum brightness. It then sets iGuidance to skip the startup warning dialog, before launching iGuidance through AstroGPSLauncher. Once you exit iGuidance the script will restore your previous backlight/power settings. The only thing not working in the script right now is that it doesn't terminate GpsGate on exit if the script started GpsGate. I have not found a reliable way to close GpsGate. All current methods I've tried of closing/terminating GpsGate leave an unresponsive icon in the tray of the Today screen.

For those who are interested, I've made a copy of this script available for download HERE. Instructions on how to install/use the script are in the included "iGuidanceInternalGPSLauncher.mscr" Mortscript file.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rangie:
After going back and forth with them trying to troubleshoot the problem this seems to be the final word-

I've got it working with GPS gate and auto launcher but if anybody is looking to buy new software to go with our new feature TomTom would probably be a better choice.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TalynOne:
That's a really short sighted stance on iNav's part, especially since this isn't only a Titan problem, but a more generic problem of iGuidance never working right through Microsoft Windows Mobile GPS redirect port, even on my old Bluetooth GPS device. Hopefully more people complaining will force their hand.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rangie:
That was my thought too.

Bet the touch has the same problem.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] volwrath:
It replaced gpsgate on my laptop as I was attempting to use Garmin nRoute with a generic bluetooth GPS. Works splendidly
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ilogik:
iGO is the most graphically fluid app I have tried so far and I have tried all of the ones mentioned here on page 1. It has a very small footprint, each state map is only about 30 megs so if you are tight on space and want a smooth scrolling map this would be a good choice.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] okeefferd:
Only 4 Satellites?? :(

I am only seeing it searching for the same 4 satellites over and over. (13, 25, 16, and 3). I am able to get a lock on sometimes, but 4 seems too low for comfort. I have tried everything I can think of and its still barely working. Google Maps, GPS Proxy, QuickGPS, and TomTom (w/ launcher). I have the latest PRL and just did a hard reset/reflash... Any ideas?

PS I am on verizon with the latest DCD 2.0.0.

Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EvilDeadFan:
So where do you live? Where are you searching from at the time? Indoors, only near a window, outside without trees or other obstructions in the way?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] okeefferd:
I live a bit north of Minneapolis. My TomTom one picks up tons of satellites with great strength (even in doors), but knowing that I am using a phone GPS i don't expect as much. I am going to try leaving the GPS open for awhile today to see if that helps at all. I just reflashed last night so maybe it hasn't had a chance to catch up yet.. worth a try.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] latinguy703:
I tried everything that tutorial said to do and nothing has happened to my phone. I have the Titan, the only thing that changed was the brightness of my screen, other than that my rom and radio versions are the same. GPS wont work either. PLEEEAASE HELP
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
TalynOne, you are the undisputed king of write-ups. Awesome work.

I've gotta give GPS2Blue a try. Sounds cool. Now I can give my BT GPS receiver to my wife (she gets lost a lot...just kidding honey...*whispers* but seriously, she does)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] craigwillie:
Free Navigation software that works with Mogul GPS

If you'd like to try a FREE navigation program with the Mogul, try Nav4All. It offers turn-by-turn directions, voice prompts, POI etc.

www.nav4all.com
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] chnzshyguy:
Anyone? I'm thinking AGPS uses less battery as well since it's using the cellular radio instead of the GPS chip.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] JimSmith94:
Wow, this looks promising, and it's FREE! :) Trying it now ...