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[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Stock Rom, OTA Update and TWRP

[MENTION=8453140]OperatorB[/MENTION] Thanks but...

Yes, I agree with you.

My knowledge is limited... I thought I've to unlock the boot loader and install TWRP in order to have Gapps full functional. I did it and it the main reason of my question below.

I didn't have the same problem with my Jiayu, which has TWRP and stock full ROM (with OTA Update, when Jiayu was alive...)

Pico gapps doesn't work at all (can't add a user account).

I've to install full gapps and remove after that goo applications I don't want (I just need play store) and I don't want tools like Google and is Okay Google, Gmail and so on. I like my independence ;)

Is it possible to "optionally" activate or choose one solution or the other (to preserve OTA on the stock ROM ?)

Thanks
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
Well if by Over-The-Air you mean install stock ROMs in the future to come then you can do it without any recovery. You can do it from Settings>SystemUpdate>3dots>Local update>select the stock ROM you've downloaded.

I'm also a gapps pico guy by the way, and if you are on Global stock ROM then Google services are compiled with Global stock ROM so no need to install gapps with recovery i think.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
By OTA I just mean the updates ZTE send. I'll have a look this evening (setting...), I haven't the phone with me. It is not "fully operational", I mean with the application I use daily.

With the opengapps pico, I can't add a user (it is the standard ROM installed with the phone I received a month ago, with OTA updates).

I did (with some difficulties) a boot loader unlock and install TWRP.

I (mis ?) understood it was mandatory to install opengapps (minimal for me, just to have play store functional to install my commonly used applications, no gmail, no gcalendar, no okay google, no something_google, just the play store ;) ).

I saw on apkmirror it is possible to install only play store. Is this a solution ?

best regards
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
Yes if you just wanted TWRP back then gapps was optional.

If you install stock ROM global version then it comes with google services, probably you can not even remove all of them (not sure). But if you install ROM which has absolutely no google stuff (Mokee or RR) then you are able to install gapps to have a nicely functional system. If you install gapps with TWRP on stock global ROM(which already has google stuff built-in) then i think it would mess up/confuse the system's google stuff.

In conclusion i recomment to install gapps only for a system with no google things on it.

If you want only Google Play and the very basic service then you should download the 'pico' pack from the link below. (platform is ARM64 for Z17 & Z17 mini as well, and your android version you can check)

http://opengapps.org/
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Thanks OperatorB

I didn't install any ROM. The phone is with the stock ROM (with OTA updates) given by GeekB (mid august).

I powered on the phone when I received it, connected it to my Wifi and it proposed me OTA updates (2.39 if I remember to 2.58 now).

I didn't find any Google services or stuff, just Nubia store on it and other applications available and usable in China.

So, to install a play store (pico open gapps), I understood I've to unlock the boot loader first and then install TWRP to permit the pico gapps installation (via TWRP).

I did it but it doesn't work.

I've many problems with adb to have a correct connection with the phone (it depends the day, the weather, the moon phase... ;) ) Sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes not (reboot, PC and phone, etc. nothing works).

I'll try on an old PC with Win XP... May be it should work.

I suppose, in order start on a fresh base, I've to install the last official ROM ?

Sorry for my dirty English
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
Connection problem can be the cable e.g. if you are using a magnetic connection or usb port contact problem at first glance. Or the Moon as well. :laugh:

If no other ideas for the google problem then yes, you should install a fresh ROM. If you choose stock ROM then before install gapps you should check wether there is google integrated already within stock ROM. ( If there are then i would not mess with them)

If you strongly want only G Play and gapps pico then try custom ROMs like Mokee's or RR which doesn't have any Google stuff in it.

Oh and don't forget backing up. And wipe data before ROM install.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Hi,

I suppose the moon had a willingness to cooperate that night... :angel:

For the cable connection, I use the stock cable given with the phone (and the ugly charger, for a European ;) )

I've a try on an other PC (same OS W8.1 64 pro, but older, no USB3.0, only USB 2.0) with a fresh install of the drivers. MTP is working well but I can't access the phone via adb (offline)

I had some problems with the pico gapps on one hand, the google play apk on the hand. neither are working.

So, with TWRP, I did a wipe in order to have a phone in a good state.

When I rebooted the phone I thought, at the beginning my phone was bricked ... But I got a fully functional phone a few minutes later with all the Chinese stuf.

It seems to have some google stuff installed too.

I do not have enough time to check (it was early this morning) and I can't do other tests before, at best, the next WE.

I'll save (backup) the phone with TWRP and install a fresh stock ROM.

I'll verify after if google stuff is present or not.

Do I have to do an Advanced Wipes of System, Data, Cache and ART/Dalvik Cache before or a "standard Wipe" (with TWRP) ?

With RR, it seems to have some problems with the last release and Magisk (I prefer SuperSu).

I should wait a little before trying it.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
Sorry for that but it is not clear for me. You ask do you need to do advanced wipes for what?

I have never used Magisk nor followed what goes on so for that i have no comment right now.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
You told me :

I suppose it is the "standard wipe" from TWRP (a factory reset ?)
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
Yes it is similar i think.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Hello, I like the stock rom and the real nubia experience but honestly I recommend you to install Mokee (rom), it is smooth and clean, when you flash the Gapps they will work very good, in fact I haven't found any trouble with them yet. The phone looks like a Nexus Device. I am waiting for an international rom with the Gapps included and working fine to come back to the stock rom. Until that, I will stay with Mokee.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] YelloneK:
Will nubia make international rom for Z17? The stock Rom is very good, but it lacks languages and it's a shame because it's a great smartphone. Mokee or RR are unfinished, have bugs, lags and are not as smooth.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] OperatorB:
I have a mini though but i agree with you. RR feels a bit messy, Mokee's is better but i consider stock ROM is all in all better. :cowboy:
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] YelloneK:
Exactly if nubia provided a global rom for Z17 then it would get more new users. Besides without the global rom Z17 can not compete with Mi6 or OP5 and not worse and in some aspects even better.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Hi, there is a rumor that the Z17 will be launch in India on September 10 or 30, itsn't clear. I dont know if true but at least is a possibility. If Nubia do that, it is almost sure we will have an international rom. Mokke is not perfect as you said, it is a nightly yet but for me goes very well, I have all my apps running perfect and I dont have any FC or similar with them. If somebody wants to have a functional phone (not perfect) Mokee is an excellent option, everything that I have tried works, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC, Camera, etc. The notications led does not work properly, that's true. The rotation sometimes fail, but it has a simple solution, lock a nd unlock the phone. I have no lags, it seems like a Nexus Device. The Gallery app on Mokee is ugly and you will find a horrible lag on it (not rom), but I use Quickpic and flies. Cheers

PD: Also, Mokee has an app or Update Center with daily updates. You can download the updates from there or its official website.

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I agree. But the Gapps doesn't work fine in official Rom, that's the reason I am using Mokee. And the problem is not only the Gapps, many apps depends of Google Services to work.

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Totally agree.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] YelloneK:
I hope. Let's be positive, maybe nubia will not disappoint us.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Hello,

After a "bad manipulation" on the z17 (flash of SuperSu), I've to reinstall the ROM.

I did it with the last ROM (2.58) available.

With that ROM, I'm not able to unlock anything and as a consequence, flash a non official application (such as Magisk for example).

Do you have experienced that problem after flashing the last official ROM release.

In order to do it clean, what kind of wipe I've to do ? Actually, I can just do a factory reset, I can't install TWRP for example, I cant unlock the boot loader fastboot oem ... hangs

Thanks
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] jmazzamj:
Hello guys.

I'll receive my Z17 on Monday. It will come with MoKee installed, but I need to flash official ROM + Google Services for review, may I please get a guide how to do so? I read that the latest Chinese ROM (2.58) prevents the user from flashing Play Store and stuff. Is that true?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Hi jmazzamj,

I try many times to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP in order to install gapps...

I did it with the release 2.56.

With the 2.58, I can't do it.

I tried on 4 different machines (2 W8.1x64, 1 XP, 1 XP mediacenter edition). Fastboot hangs while it unlocks the bootloader.

The number on unlock grows each times. The phone status is unlocked... till I reboot it.

Can't flash anything except official ROM.

I suppose I'm dumb...

Is someone here living near Paris (France) here ?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
I have no problem flashing gapps.

Yes, the phone will relock after a reboot, so you have to

- unlock bootloader,

-flash twrp,

-reboot recovery from fastboot,

-flash stock rom and reboot.

-Enter in fastboot again and unlock,

-reflash twrp and reboot recovery from fastboot

-go to advanced, tools, root device. Reboot.

-reboot to recovery, flas full gapps.

-unroot if you want.

You're done.

'till bootloader is locked again, don' t flash magisk.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
So with this method you can use the official rom with Gapps perfectly or work with some problems? Cheers

Enviado desde mi NX563J mediante Tapatalk
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
Need to do "flight mode trick" to download from playstore. If you want other gapps perfectly working, you have to set permissions manually via adb
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] MazyooN77:
and how to set permissions manually via adb ?? to avoid "flight mode trick" ?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
It is what I did but...

While unlock the bootloader, fastboot hangs.

I mean I run "fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX563J" and fastboot doesn't stop...

..\Telephone\Nubia\Z17_twrp>fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX563J
...
(bootloader) START update nubia fastboot unlock flag!!!

I let the phone in that state yesterday for 4 hours, it does nothing... and the phone is always locked.

I roll back today with a 2.56 release, same problem.

I fell a little disappointed with that phone. I'm thinking to sell it.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Thanks but why is necessary to root the phone. May I ignore that step? I don't need root and do it to unroot later I think is an unnecessary step. But if you tell me a reason I will do it. Cheers
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
You need root to flash gapps. Tried once to flash gapps wothout root and failed. If you don't want root you can try one of new google installer, but i don't know if this will work.

Btw you can still unroot fron recovery after gapps flash.

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Have you activated developer options, debug usb and oem unlock?

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There's a thread by perna_hungarian on how to set permission manually that helped me a lot
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Thanks again for your answer. With TWRP can I root the phone, is it?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
You're welcome :). You can root and unroot from twrp by going in:

Advanced - > tools and you will sett voices for roit and unroot
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Perfect then. Thanks a lot. I am wanting to update the phone to 3.06 version to make the whole process.

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Hi, anything new with the problem? Could you solve it? Cheers

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@IronJacob one more question, what combo of Gapps did you used? ARM64 +7.1 + FULL?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Thanks

I did install TWRP with many problems before.

As mentioned previously, I had a problem with SuperSU (pro release under TWRP, standard via aptoide for example)

I tried it under W8.1x64 pro on two different machines (Lenovo and HP, the question to accept the debugging mode arrives very late on the phone (adb wait-for-device), sometimes I get it sometimes not (but I always accept debugging for the PC i used for the test) and Xp on two other machines (Dell - pro and HP - mediacenter edition); under XP, the debugging option comes quickly on the phone after adb wait-for-device.

On the phone, OEM unlock and debug option are available since I received the phone.

As mentioned here for example, I've activated the options available by the command *#7678#.

I got an error after typing the command "adb reboot bootloader" "protocol invalid" if I remember.

I tried under Linux. it doesn't work.

I'll test again this evening (reset to factory via parameters, wipe (system and data) with the "standard recovery menu")

Each time, I remove with an uninstaller (IoBit) all the drivers I installed, reboot the system, install the drivers again.

I open a command window, (verify the options - OEM, Debug and *#7678#.

Because I want to understand where is the failure, i have the bat file (gizbeat.bat) for example opened in an editor and I "type" all the commands line by line.

... I don't want to do again a clan install of my computer, I use it every days for work...

Maybe there is a solution or a problem with the drivers.

The solution given here is not working for me. I saw, on many "procedures" different release of adb and fastboot (not the same size, some fastboot have a limitation for the file size to flash, some not, sometimes, whit adb devices I've "Offline", "Unauthorized" or "Device"; With this last case, actually, I get a protocol error with adb reboot bootloader.)

Thanks.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Complement

Hello,

You'll find here after the different releases of adb and fastboot command I tried (except the last one).

From autorun.exe, given by the XDA package (see below)
adb-old
> adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.36
Revision 0e9850346394-android

> fastboot --version
fastboot version 0e9850346394-android

From https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools.html
\Telephone\Nubia\platform-tools
> .\adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.39
Revision 3db08f2c6889-android
Installed as S:\Applications\Telephone\Nubia\platform-tools\adb.exe

Telephone\Nubia\platform-tools
> .\fastboot.exe --version
fastboot version 3db08f2c6889-android
Installed as S:\Applications\Telephone\Nubia\platform-tools\fastboot.exe

From Gischina.it
\Telephone\Nubia\TWRP Z17-2
> .\adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.36
Revision 0e9850346394-android

\Telephone\Nubia\TWRP Z17-2
> .\fastboot.exe --version
fastboot version 0e9850346394-android

From XDA - https://xdaforums.com/nubia-z17/how-to/how-to-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3636861
https://www.gammerson.com/2017/07/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-and-root-nubia-z17.html

\Telephone\Nubia\Z17_twrp
> .\adb version
version:V6.0 by cofface@cofface.com

\Telephone\Nubia\Z17_twrp
> .\fastboot --version
fastboot version 2d0a7c120173-android

From http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/258729-nubia-z17-probleme-googgle-playstore/?do=findComment&comment=3776463

From frandroid.com.
[B]This package had worked once
[/B]\Telephone\Nubia\Z17_twrp_root
abd is installed by autorun.exe Cf. adb-old above

\Telephone\Nubia\Z17_twrp_root
> .\fastboot version
cofface version:V5.1

There is a complete package here :
https://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/cofface-adb-fastboot-windowslinux-arm-t3584683

\Telephone\Nubia\CoffaceWindows
> .\adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.36
Revision b4efcfeadfc6-android
cofface version:v7.1

\Telephone\Nubia\CoffaceWindows
> .\fastboot version
cofface version:v7.1

Which on is the good one ?

All these packages give one or more drivers to install...
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
Yes ARM64 7.1. You need FULL gapps to. You can just freeze gapps not needed
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ursus91:
Hello,

Some news.

I did a fresh installation of the official ROM release 2.56.

I didn't try to unlock again the bootloader in order to flash TWRP for now.

I did a "cleaning" of the phone with the tool offered by ZTE, i mean neosafe. It removed a large part of the applications not usable or available here (Europe - France).

I tried this morning to share my 4G connection via USB (parameters => more => Share Connection => Via USB).

I do it many times with my Jiayu S3 Adv; But, with the Nubia Z17, it doesn't work.

Windows (8.1 x64 pro) needs a long time to find the "network connection".

After it found it, the connection is not usable. I saw the USB mode switched automaticaly from MTP file share to USB Charge. I'll have a look on my Jiayu in the same situation later.

May be I missed some parameters, but on the Jiayu it works "out of the box".

Does someone here encounter the same problems ?

After a full fresh installation, I can confirm there is no google services installed (no com.google.xxx)

I had another problem : Sygic, GPS navigator, full world release, is not working. I can't save my licence key for example nor connect with my Id.

After the first installation, the first run was correct. After that, the application hangs and doesn't work (can't access to the parameters, route, etc.) but stay active (task list available with the left button).

I didn't try Here maps or Waze.

Thanks
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] perna_hungarian:
Z17(NX563J)V2.58 - 3.06 OTA Download

Tapatalkkal küldve az én NX563J eszközömről
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Goranzpar:
Hello guys, I have done the whole method by IronJacon (thanks for sharing) adding a wipe dalvilk/cache after installing Gapps and now I have running V3.06 + Gapps. It is true, after turn off the phone or reboot you have to do the airplane mode trick, but curiously I have just turned it off to take off the sim card and when I turned it on I didn't have to make the trick and I can download from Google Play.

I have tried different options:

1- Original Chinese firmware without Google.

2- Mokee Custom Rom with the combo ARM64 +7.1 + PICO

3- The Original Chinese firmware V3.06 + Gapps Full

Until now the majority of Gapps works fine but some apps doesn't work at all. Google Adsense, Google Opinion Rewards, Documents and the office pack, Google Keep works but don't let me change between accounts, Drive same like Keep. Play Games doesn't work. Gmail works and let me change my accounts but when you get in the accounts have no profile pictures and a message of error appears, you select ok and then you can use the app normally. When you go to write a mail another message appears, ask in for permission to sms, rare, but you select ok and you can write and send the email.

Chrome, YouTube, YTStudio and Analytics work perfectly. Notifications works fine once you have allowed the permissions in Neosafe app and locked in multitasking.

One more thing, the system occupy in ram about 3,5-4 Gb [emoji15]. And yesterday I have left the phone with 75% of battery, Wi-Fi and Data Off, but Sinc and GPS and always on and after 6 hours sleeping it has 66%, I think is a lot. I want to say that the installation was clean, after that I made a Hard Reset and this is the result.

Now I have to decide between the option 2 and 3 because I use to much Google Services. I am still testing.....
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] IronJacob:
Not flashable from twrp?

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Take a look at the thread "how to fix google apps..." by perna_hungarian in this section of the forum
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] perna_hungarian:
Probably installing. I do not want Google Apps because of system apps. I'm already available for full rom, download it tomorrow, tomorrow I give it a mega link. I'm going to install the whole rom TWRP. Unroot, full wipe, and install rom. The 2.58 I did this way.

Tapatalkkal küldve az én NX563J eszközömről
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] arceoxis:
MEGA mirror to 3.06 Full ROM: https://mega.nz/#!4cpTCZgS!DAPtwh0ViW71OJOs5qhbTQ9QhmoAvflC_KBtSdjFyLU
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Recycle21:
The zip file is corrupted :/
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] arceoxis:
Yes I checked it now, I transfer the ROM from mi Baidu account to Mega and maybe something happened and corrupted it... We must wait for other person to upload it.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] djisma86:
Can you upload in drive the rom?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Saintmaritain:
Hello

here is the link rom 3.06 mega:

https://mega.nz/#!kzAxQBbK!qYhDikN4juVAagv8VLJR6a8byESfpUm1EiEGR36bLRU

the files zip is good uploaded by me.:good:

Because is good flashing rom

Bye
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] MacLaughlin:
Could anyone report how the new stock rom works with Google services?
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] hanakyn:
THX :D
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Recycle21:
I'm installing and testing now, i'll write about asap.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] djisma86:
I'm downloading, i will flash this in replace of rr because i want to try stock rom.
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Saintmaritain:
I have root and install the gapps.

is his impeccable walk
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] djisma86:
file zip is corrupted....mmm
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] Recycle21:
Installed the 3.06 yesterday, root with twrp and installed latest full opengapps.

- play games not working FIXED!

- gmail error come back - com.google.gm.MailMigrationApplication FIXED!

- google account not syncing just the first time, manual syncing also

- play store now downloading any time I want to install an app, so far it worked quite hectic

- I use Lawnchair instead of the factory launcher, but the system randomly returns to nubia launcher

- fingerprint unlock seems faster

- better battery performance (2% drain with two sim cards with 3G, and WIFI on)

Now I'm on the new 3.06, testing with the added permissions.

(sorry for my english :) )
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Guides, News, & Discussion] djisma86:
Thanks a lot for your review