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[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
G4 has a removable battery so it's probably not the original battery but the Nexus 6P battery did surprise me how bad it got.

That's why I said "might" & "when"/if practical, this app is also still new to me. I've tried to avoid having low batteries in the past especially when I didn't have a portable external battery so I would power up from outlets when/where possible which is more cycles on the battery.

So your 1500 mAh (43% rounded down) changed or is it still listed as an estimate because 63% of 3450 is 2,173.5 mAh.. It should list "Based on" ? under Health for example mine had listed "Based on 13 sessions with 662% charged for 9,486 mAh total." How long had your AccuBattery been installed when it first gave you 1500 & later 63% because my other devices I installed it on a few hours ago still don't list any capacity estimates. It did say it gets more accurate over time (with more data)..
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
i just installed it today lol

do u know why there is a different under battery health and battery capacity estimate?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
My battery capacity estimate lists 1,463.9 mAh where it states "based only on the current charge session.. If you want to know your battery's condition, please go to the Health tab" where mine now lists:

"Battery health 42%

Estimated capacity 1,436 mAh

Design capacity 3,450 mAh

Based on 15 sessions with 762% charged for 10,944 mAh total."

Bottomline: I suspected I needed a battery replacement based on its ~2hr SOT with early shutdowns & unreliable battery performance after >19 months but the AccuBattery data seems to be confirming my suspicions..

When I plug it in the Estimated capacity on the charging tab increases but on the discharging tab scrolling to the bottom confirms my battery performance experience under "Full battery time estimates This estimate tells you how much run time you have with a 100% fully charged battery. It is calculated using the numbers from 'Average battery usage' Screen On 1h 59m Screen off 5h 19m Combined use 3h 21m so you can see how a new battery would be welcome:)

BTW, my Note 4 battery health just popped up at 97% based on 1 session (with its relatively recent removable battery) & my Moto X Pure battery health is 59% so far which further reinforces my preference for removable batteries..
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
So I took my Nexus 6P to https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations tonight before their 7 PM closing & left a 50% deposit since they'd have to order the replacement battery which they told me would be a Huawei battery from their distributor specifically for the Nexus 6P. After being notified that this battery is back in stock within 3-5 days, the installation should take ~1 hr & if it doesn't solve the low battery issues they would put the original battery back in & refund me the full $89.99 so less risk than if I were to do it myself. I will make sure to ask for the original battery for evidence of swelling. I was told there is a 90 day warranty on the battery which I will ask more details about for example if Accubattery battery health goes down from >95+% new to <50% within 3 months where early shutdowns return would they install another battery at no cost..?

I did notice upon my return on the receipt under "Condition Notes: Good. Minor amounts of physical damage visible (cracked glass for instance). Does not include known liquid damage. Regular use cosmetic wear (minor scratches, scuff, dents in more than 5 areas)" which I will insist they change when I bring it back because my Nexus 6P has zero dents or even scratches as it's been in a case since day 1 & never dropped it on anything hard in over 19 months. They may default to "Good" condition to protect themselves from physical damage during install but I will request they change it to excellent or like new because my Nexus 6P really does look brand new especially after it's cleaned with only the battery degradation.. When I told him it's been >19 months he did warn me other components like the motherboard may be an issue but I told him that I have other devices like my Note 4 that are >31 months old working perfectly since its batteries are removable & that the planned obsolesce of enclosed batteries is the most likely problem at fault here.

I did consider contacting Google but I'd really rather not have to transfer local data & set up the refurbished replacement the way I like it if it can be avoided. If this battery replacement doesn't solve the early shutdown problem however I'd then contact Google. I also have read that some people have gone through multiple refurbished models some with worse issues than the original they traded in https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/google-stepped-battery-shut-off-issue-t3616659/page2 but that most people seem happy with their refurbished replacements even if their battery capacity may not be as high as the freshest battery replacement that I expect in my case..

I'll let you know how it works out but I may still also get the LG V20 if it's going to be the last high end device in the foreseeable future with a quick removable battery now that can be bought new now for ~$400..:cool:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
Just had a replacement in my battery

Accu battery says 5 hrs of sot
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exodusche:
Replacing the battery wasn't to hard and the difference is worth the trouble or cost. ?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
:victory:Battery health % listed yet (& was the replacement a Huawei battery identical to the original)?

My replacement, which should happen any day, can not come fast enough as its battery health continues going down faster than ever with a screen on time now listed at 1hr 50m.

"Battery health 40%

Estimated capacity 1,385 mAh

Design capacity 3,450 mAh

Based on 29 sessions with 1,468% charged for 20,326 mAh total."

:highfive: I assume you're now glad you did it since you had doubts, maybe I'm lucky but the only hardware issues I've ever had were battery related. I knew battery degradation would be an issue with the 6P's enclosed battery eventually just not so rapidly. Keep monitoring your replacement's battery health & let us know how it performs over time whether you charge to 100% plugged in all night or to 80% with more strategic charge cycles.:)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
Quick update

Im able to get 2hrs 45 mins of sot after the replacement on a 50% battery drop.

Base on that, I can say a full battery can get me 5 hrs and 30 Mins.

Nice and sweet
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
What do u mean by 80% and strategic charge?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
How much more u think it can save from degrading by charging to 80% max.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
Anyone knoe how many charge cycle is used from 0-80 and 0-100??
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
"

doubling the enclosed battery's life (to even quadrupling it if 'charging it to a maximum of 80% every time' ") according to AccuBattery aforementioned reference links.

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What I can say experientially so far (unless the original battery was simply inherently defective) is overcharging my Nexus 6P appears to have dramatically diminished its capacity at a rate >2.5x more than expected (instead of the expected 1.25% capacity loss per month averaged I experienced an ~3.16% capacity loss per month averaged. I'd like to improve that with the battery replacement so I will monitor its health along with associated charging habits.

"the charging process is not a continuous, linear process. In our test case of a Moto G, the battery sustained more battery wear charging from 80% to 90% (battery wear=0.22 cycles) than from 50% to 60% (battery wear=0.02 cycles). In both cases it is a 10% increase in battery charge but

charging from 80% to 90% caused 11 times more wear to the battery than charging from 50% to 60%.

"

"AccuBattery will show you how much battery wear each charging session is causing your battery. Research ( https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology ) has shown that

keeping your battery charged between 0% and 80% can make your battery's lifespan last 2x longer than when you use a full battery cycle from 0-100%

. To help you follow these guidelines we've built in a charge alarm. With the handy slider (in the charging tab) you can choose at which charge % to get a notification so you'll know that it's time to unplug your phone from the charger. As you play around with the slider you'll notice that when you start charging beyond 80% each percentage of additional charge will coincide with an increasing amount of wear."
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] king23adrianc:
Did you ask ubreakifix about the 90 days warranty? What and How does it cover?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
anyone know what is the approx charge cycle for nexus 6p?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanteGR:
From 0% to 100% should be approx. 1,5 hours something like that.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
I've done a replacement too, the phone is now in excellent condition. RIght now, I used my G4 for gaming and 6p for non-gaming uses.

I noticed the battery improved a lot, far better. Since I only charged up to 80%, so I couldnt say the SOT for sure. But the accubattery apps said I m able to get near 5 hours of SOT on a full charge. So pretty impressive.

I think I will skip the upcoming pixel since the 6p still working perfectly. And with so many cheaper devices now on market, I may consider not buying the google phone anymore
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
AccuBattery constantly updates its data but as mentioned I uninstalled it & reinstalled it once the new battery was installed for the most accurate data for the new battery.

My SOT is already closer to 4 hrs (when the new battery in AccuBattery started out closer to 5 hrs) so hopefully it won't degrade rapidly like the original battery (when I charged it as much as possible to avoid low battery at inopportune times especially when I didn't have external batteries with me).

I'm glad you started this important thread prompting my participation since battery degradation was such an issue with the Nexus 6P+enclosed batteries in general. I hope the days of new high end devices with removable batteries are not forever gone..:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] in2ition:
Hey, any suggestions for the following items that drain the battery: Android System and Android OS?

Nexus 6P, Android 7.1.2.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seabro01:
Need to provide more detailed stats from a battery monitor app like Gsam or Better Battery Stats, then maybe someone will be able to help.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seanejames:
BVbvv
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CYoung234:
I just got a quote from a ubreakifix location in the Chicago suburbs, and they quoted $149.99 and two hours to do the swap. I asked them to clarify, and here is what they said: "The $149.99 quote our manager had sent initially had included the parts for the repair we feel are necessary for doing the repair correctly. For replacing the battery only the cost would end up being around that $89.99 price but since the back glass over the antennas gets damaged during the removal process that needs to be replaced and also the frame potentially needs to be replaced if there is any amount of warping which nearly all of these devices do since the aluminum wall on the edge of the frame is so thin and flexible. "

Any comments on this? I have seen a few users report they had broken the camera glass cover while trying to remove it, but this is the first report I have seen of the frame needing to be replaced. On the surface, this appears to be a shop that does not take the time to be as careful as they should be, but since I have never done this repair myself, it is hard to comment on it too much.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v12xke:
Only a $60 delta and you know the camera glass breakage is common, so that leaves the frame. If they do need to change the frame, then tell them you want your old part back to keep them from just using that to pad the price. You can't buy an equivalent replacement phone for $150. I haven't personally heard of the frame issue, but plenty of folks changing the back itself for cosmetic reasons. It can get scratched up during the battery replacement. I'd also be scrutinizing their labor warranty in case the battery they install is junk and you have a repeat issue.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajendra82:
You can buy a back frame camera visor and bottom cover together for $30. Adding all this to a $13 to $20 battery will still keep you under $50 for a DIY fix. I don't believe you are very likely to damage the frame during removal if you take it nice and slow. Replacement visor and bottom cover are around $7 each, so buying the frame adds very little to the cost. I think the part most likely to get damaged is the plastic cover, as it warps during heat application and removal. The visor sounds scary, but the glass is stronger and stiffer so you either get it off in one piece or many.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
In my detailed post at https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73210726&postcount=54 I share my experience with https://www.ubreakifix.com but I could comment further that it sounds like a padded quote since they only charged me the $89.99+tax while I waited in store for ~30 minutes for the battery replacement (once the battery was in stock which took ~4 business days) so you could tell them that & ask why they are quoting you a higher price. I was told that if they break something during the installation, they would repair it at zero additional expense. As a business they should have insurance or absorb the cost of a faulty installation. Check out my whole post at https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73210726&postcount=54 but I'll repost the following portion:

Maybe I got lucky as the store manager who installed my new battery said he had changed the Nexus 6P battery about 10x but he was honest enough to admit to me that he once broke the camera glass so he subsequently would use more heat to loosen its adhesive glue more.

I can also mention that while I'm still glad I replaced the battery, my SOT is closer to 4 hours (I probably could better optimize battery usage manually & through software but AccuBattery still lists 102% Battery Health), combined use ~7h so I don't always make it through a full day without recharging.. I may still buy the LG V20 for ~$400 mainly because of its replaceable battery but I may wait for the formal announcement & reviews of the Pixel 2 XL which could also have front facing stereo speakers yet no replaceable battery to see what its battery life manages.

I almost bought the LG V20 recently ( https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73255051&postcount=44 ) when it was on sale new at $369.99 (<$400 with tax ) but went up $80 by the time I went to checkout which aggravated me enough not to buy it but I've read it's frequently on sale there ( https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=LG+V20+US996 ).

Hope my post/s helps someone-if so hit the Thanks:cool:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CYoung234:
I am pretty tempted to do this myself. I will be in the U.S. anyhow during October and part of November, so I will likely just buy the parts, a heatgun and the spudgers, etc. to do it then. Any recommendations for tools? I see several choices on Amazon, for example. I am pretty comfortable with this type of work.

The idea that they are not very comfortable with doing this without damage is putting me off, particularly since others are reporting they have had the same company do the repair without needing to change the frame, etc. Probably just different franchisees have different levels of experience.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I read your post earlier. Out of curiousity, where did you have your repair done?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
If you'll be visiting the NY metro area, I could get you this store manager's contact info.. if you're considering taking on the install risks yourself then maybe https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660 could help you out.:good:

BTW, ¿Como te gusta Paraguay?:)

Hope my post/s helps someone-if so hit the Thanks:cool:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Born<ICs:
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I'm having trouble finding US source to buy all 3 aluminum colored back pieces (want original oem parts)

Suggestions? Link?

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Born<ICs:
Bump, still need source for back parts.

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramdak:
I got an OEM battery from Ebay, changed it, but cannot make it charge. It's stuck at 50%, and causes bootloop. So the new battery doesn't make it to the OS, only to the logo and reboot. The old battery, that was lasting about 15 minutes, charges and works ok... but only lasts 15 minutes. I really got no idea what's going on.

Any clues?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v12xke:
Your replacement battery was probably garbage. Lots of counterfeit phone batteries on Ebay. Try the Cameron Sino brand.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramdak:
Yeah my thoughts... I only found one of that brand and they not ship to my country unfortunatelly.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mousefai0922:
**** them, find another repair.

The job can be done no more then 50$
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CYoung234:
In the end, I ordered two batteries, one Cameron Sino and the other from eBay, and did the swap myself. Used a hairdryer, which worked great. Did not break the camera glass or melt the plastic cover. I had bought a replacement back housing, glass and cover for just in case, but did not need to use them in the end. The new battery does not have the temp sensor, but works great otherwise. I will save the eBay battery for next year if I need to change it again.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ern88:
My Nexus 6p Battery just started acting up today. It hit 35% and then went to 1% and turned off. I am also now debating on replacing the battery. I had it since release. I really still love the phone. I will shop around for a place to change it out.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dathaeus:
Sorry if this is considered necro but I felt it was more appropriate here than creating a whole new thread.

I still love this phone as well, especially the quick fire camera. I have the same problem even after I reflashed everything, which I had to do anyways.

I will probably just replace the battery myself but anyone know if this is only an issue with the Nexus series, or is this normal now for most high powered phones? I never had this issue with the Samsungs, LG or Sony Ericsson, but then again my last Samsung I had 3-4 batteries I rotated so.... I do miss those days as others do.

I just want to know for my reference for my next phone purchase... sadly it seems we have to take this into consideration now.

Also for those of you have have done it, what's the difference between DIY and sending it into Huawei for repair... Besides the turnaround time of not having your phone? And any of you think about buying a legit battery yourself and take it to one of those shops, or will they not do it without their own parts?

FYI mine is now at 12% (397 mAh) capacity, nice huh?

_________________________________________

Huawei says 7-10 days turnaround time to replace battery at $163, 3 month warranty. F%#%# that.

I guess I'll be trying my mettle with a new battery myself.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seabro01:
The battery degradation issue isn't a Nexus specific thing. It can happen with any phone but it seems to be more common than normal with the 6P. My Galaxy S2 skyrocket was the only phone that ever had a problem with battery degradation. Wasn't that big of a deal since I could just pop in a new battery. Since then I've been pretty careful with taking care of the batteries in all my phones and haven't had any issues. My almost 3 year old Nexus 6 still shows 92% battery capacity. The 6P I sold still had 97% battery capacity.

The 6P is one of the more difficult recent phones to repair. Pretty easy to damage something when opening the 6P to replace battery but it's doable if you have phone repair experience. The best repair shop option is probably uBreakiFix. They seemed to be familiar with the 6P. My cousin had the battery replaced for under $80 with 90 day warranty and had the phone back the next day.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dathaeus:
Yes my local uBreakiFix also seemed familiar (quoted me $76) but I had already ordered the battery so I will just do it myself and save some money.... I ordered some tools as well so it should be fine if I take my time, maybe I'll make yet another YouTube video from it and share it.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] chenrp:
so.. i have been flashing roms all over the place on my 3t on my opo and my i9100 the s2!

and i remembered that the opo and s2 run a lot faster and battery life was great on kitkat !

just wondering, is there a chance to run a kitkat rom on the oneplus 3t...
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] psyckoze:
Awesome question
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] Vidicgapi:
No, there isn't any chance.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] chenrp:
at least slimsaber rom like...

i mean the speed difference is incredible!
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] neinfricatu:
Only Ice Cream Sandwich, but it is better this way, it is faster than KitKat.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] chenrp:
what's faster? what version?
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] adamka13:
In one word: NO. I mean it could be possible if we would have the drivers and everything, but its a really hard thing to do and also pointless... Nougat is the fastest.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] pitrus-:
It's like running Windows 95 on your spanking new computer, it's going to run really quick but not very useful as many Google services will soon stop updating on Kitkat due to them stop using those older APIs.

Also, before project butter, Android wasn't as smooth when scrolling and moving between apps and such. I wouldn't want to go back before that. ?