yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] s3axel:
I can confirm this. My feeling is that OP tried to do something nice and have an automatic switching between the x2-camera and the x1-camera, giving priority to the x1-camera in low light due to its better performance in those conditions. In medium to good light the x2-camera is used (confirmed by covering it with a finger).

Unfortunately this leaves the user in doubt which camera is actually used (the same applies, from my impressions, to the normal zoom mode, too) and in fact the results are quite different between using a lossless x2-zoom camera and a digital zoom camera for achieving portrait and zoom. As a result this can lead to disappointment on the user side.

I would wish that OP put more transparency and user control into which camera is actually used and when...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Oh I'm not talking about the zoom feature. I already know that this depends on the available light.

I was asking about the portrait mode (fake bokeh mode). Does it work with the second lens covered?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] s3axel:
Yes, it does !
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
And the effect is the same or at least acceptable?

So what is the actual purpose of that second lens then?!

They are marketing a software feature as a hardware feature?

This is a scandal in my opinion if true!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] s3axel:
From my experience: no, the effect is not the same - its quite noticeable when the real x2 lens is used. This happens when lighting is at least medium to good, else it automatically selects the x1-camera instead (as I already wrote above).

My conclusion: they HAVE a hardware feature that they are marketing, and righteously so. We do have a software issue with the automatic switching between x2 and x1 cameras depending on the lighting conditions which leaves the user in doubt about what camera is actually used and can give inferior results. This, to me, is clearly a bug and should be rectified with an update for the camera software, hopefully also with additions and configuration options that give the user more control on what the camera app actually does and when.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
The effect is not the same, when you cover the 2nd lens the background blur is reduced and is not as pronounced when the 2nd zoom lens is used.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Do you mind doing a quick comparison:

- with second lens

- second lens covered

- auto-mode (not portrait mode)

Thanks for your response!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] drivn2fast:
For the bokeh effect, the second lens is only used in the software to help determine what parts of the picture are at a different depth of field than the object your focusing on. If you cover that lens, it's probably already done the calculation, or it tries with the information it does have.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
I know this. I'm looking for samples though.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
Don't mind the dirty shoe. Here are pics with and without the second lens covered in portrait mode.

The green indicator was present for both, but the names of the files are different (one says Bokeh at the end)

Edit: exposure is different with the second lense uncovered as well.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Pme?? Sorry mate my brains not working. [emoji45]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
View attachment 4223466

Low light is really horrible..

Never thought I'd say these words but I miss my HTC camera [emoji50]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ankit Kabeer:
It would be nice if there's an indicator about which lens is used.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
Do any of you guys happen to have some photos we could compare, showing differiences between OxygeneOS and AOSP? I know that camera blops will not be published, so going AOSP will result in some quality loss. I would like to see it before going for it. Could any1 help?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] denny1970:
Not to bad I say
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
You might want to check the OP3T vs OP5 camera comparison by Android Authority.

http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-oneplus-3t-780368/

You can check higher resolution samples by right-clicking the samples and opening them in a new tab.

The differences between these phones in lowlight and the lack of OIS in the OP5 is very noticeable!

I never thought the OP5 would perform this bad, given the fact they claim "clearer photos":

OP3T http://cdn04.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-3T-OP3Tn.jpg

OP5 http://cdn01.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-3T-OP5n.jpg

OP3T http://cdn01.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-3T-OP3Tp.jpg

OP5 http://cdn04.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-3T-OP5p.jpg
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
OnePlus 5 vs Honor 9 Camera Shootout:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jzpn8NrK5NhzrcWE3

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] theserpent:
I preferred the photos taken by the OP5 overall.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Same here.. With different camera sensors I feel like there's always going to be some condition the older model was better. Take the nexus 6p low light vs pixel low light..

Lack of ois on oneplus behalf was truly unfortunate, but overall I'm betvery happy with my camera, it makes the iPhone users jealous, so I'm content. ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] theserpent:
Coming from a Redmi Note 3. OP5 camera is Miles ahead, so much better. Yeah, it's a hit or a miss, but still good. Tbh, According to me any "flagship" phone's cameras all comes down to personal preference in a few shots.

But.. an OIS would have been good. Is it possible to add an EIS via software update?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
That's what I was wondering.. There was Qualcomm eis 3.0, but haven't heard of anything since MWC
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
EIS works by cropping the video ans stabilizing it this way. This does not work for photos and will never come as an update simply because not possible. The only way to stabilize lowlight shots without OIS is to use a tripod or to increase the shutter-speed, which inevitably involves increasing the ISO (more noise), or else you end up with a noticeably darker photo. This was a poor design decision by OnePlus.

It's also clear that most people, me included, are in favor of higher contrast photos. This makes them pop more.

Regardless of that, the amount of black you see in the OP5 photos is just not really what you see in real-life.

In the end I would still prefer the OP3/T due to its better lowlight capabilities. Keep in mind that you can make the OP3 photos look similar to the OP5's by editing. But on the other hand you can't remove handshake from the OP5's lowlight shots.

Even DxO somehow confirms a loss of detail due to missing OIS:

https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/OnePlus-5-review-A-serious-shooter

They only attest it a good lowlight performance when using a tripod:

Unfortunately DxO never tested the OP3/T.

I would even go as far as to say that the discussed oil-painting-effect on the OP5, which sometimes occurs in daylight, is also caused due to missing OIS.

This atleast never occured to me this heavily using the OP3:

I don't want to deny that the lens on the OP5 seems to be less prone to light-bleeding from sunlight with faster auto-focus.

But still it seems that most improvement is done in software by calibrating the outcome = more contrast, more saturation.

If OnePlus wanted, they could also tweak the OP3T's postprocessing to match this outcome.

Of course they will never do that.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Do you guys think the EIS for 4K will come to this phone?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranaxda200:
Yes it'll but not sure it'll improve anything bit more on low light photos.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkryder:
too close for comfort- i remember the press about dxomark/oneplus5 prior to release. i had great expectations for this camera partly due to this press . for some reason i also had expectations that there would be a sales storm starting after release date that would cause the op5 to be unavailable for at least a month. so, i spent release day @ my pc and ready to order as soon as i could and was able to buy a phone and, big surprise, get by 3 days later. so i got to say i'm not surprised by 1. op5 gets upper 80's. 2. the iphone7, which op5 beat 87-86 was not included in image comparison. dxomark probably did not want to spend hours looking for samples of photos proving clearly that op5 tops iphone7. and what about all that pre-sales hype from op5/dxomark prior to release? and a glowing [for op5, considering] review so close after sales began? i would imagine, considering common time frames for publication of articles that this was tested & written very close to the release[maybe even before--heck, i take that back---dxomark would not do that for a company who had paid big sums for consulting on the camera in the op5. anyway, giving op5 & dxomark benefit of doubt, it is all still, too close for comfort. i'm glad i'm not a big professional camera guy and that i think camera is just fine. i also think if i want a really great camera i should buy a great camera and not a medium priced cellphone.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
No because theres not enough "wiggle room" for EIS on 4k. EIS needs the extra pixels 1080 gives to stabilise the pic so even if 4k gets EIS it won't be very good.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-4-5-7-ota-for-oneplus-5.587514/

Let's see how it performs...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Badly.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Yeah, really keen to see what sort of an improvement they've managed!! REALLY KEEN!!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Someone already uploaded a sample of 4K with EIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=mvsLo13mMOs

EDIT: The owner must have taken down the video..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
I tested it, too. IMO a good job by Oneplus. Stable 30 fps (I tested in good lighting) and the stabilisation while walking is night and day compared to OOS 4.5.6 and older.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rockrahul:
Oneplus 5 photos seems to be even worse than OP3T in terms of details, noise etc

When we zoom these pictures and look at the green leaves or flowers. OP5 gives more eye catchy colours overall but when we zoom in and notice the leaves, flowers etc they are much more blurred and grainy compared to OP3. I am quite surprised at this. Didn't expected the camera to perform even below OP3 forget about S8 and Iphone 7 etc
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranaxda200:
The video is removed by the user.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Found this...

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllY49RhkJE[/YOUTUBE]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisch91:
No editing
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Taken with one shaky hand and a laptop bag constantly bumping into my body

Oneplus did an outstanding job with the stabilisation in this update. Will record more quality stuff tomorrow..

https://goo.gl/photos/EALAcuQW1nCdmBQV7
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rohit02:
which version do you mean by "in this update"?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] v7:
4.5.7
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Oos 4.5.7
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Simar2222:
Camera quality is horrible

Hey, just bought my OnePlus 5, and the camera quality is really not upto the point. I had a OnePlus 3 before this and that right there is one of the best smartphone cameras I've ever used. But this OP5 back camera looks just horrible to me. Front camera is better than my expectations. So I was wondering is there any chance it's the software and not the hardware? Should I ask for a replacement for it or is it just in my head??

(Attachments: Focus on the trees, grass, the drops and the overall zoom in every pic, aslo not a single picture is crystal clear there is tooo much distortion and noise and just nothing seems right. This is the worst smartphone camera I've used and being an OP fan and buying OP5 just for it's camera this left me in total shock.) 2nd link: https://uploadfiles.io/b9jpy

Any review is appreciated. Thankyou for your time :cowboy: :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] srt99:
just testing the manual mode.

iso - 100

shutter speed - 30sec

https://goo.gl/photos/4A1XcXQastDqE6Jt8
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
These are by far the worst OP5 shots I've seen to date and are perfectly showing the oil-paint-effect many are talking about.

I can't really believe that the camera is this bad.

Do you have shaky hands?

Did you try manual mode (leave it on auto settings)?

Did you try another camera app? maybe Google camera: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...amera-4-4-012-156195200-android-apk-download/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Simar2222:
I know right! And imagine you spend all your savings on a phone said to be known for it's camera and these are the shots you get LOL.

I don't have shaky hands at all, never have.

Yess, been shooting loads of pics using phone cam tried every mode even the Potrait mode sucks in this one.

Tried many camera apps too including this one ofcourse ?.

Shocked.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] atistang:
Mine has been pretty good, it still leaves more to be desired, but the shots come out better than what you posted. I almost wonder if some of the phones have a hardware problem that is causing poor camera performance.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yank555:
In fact it will depend a lot on the subject you're taking a picture of.

Also it's only visible if you zoom in to 100%.

All pictures I've found so far online which took pics of a forest, or at least with trees / grass and the like in them, produce this very same 'odd' paintbrush effect.

I've tested taking the same pics with my nexus 6p, op3t and op5, and the results were consistent.

If you compare op3t and op5 on gsmarena (they have a picture compare tool), you will notice this as well.

Hope the quality of the attachment isn't too bad, but you can check this out for yourselves on gsmarena.

You can clearly see the excessive smoothening filter used in the op5.

JP.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] atistang:
Yeah I take back what I said, I was just browsing google photos and what I thought were good shots on my phone are definitely not great when viewing on the computer.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Loads of full scale OP5 pics vs Honor 9 I different scenarios.

https://goo.gl/photos/W6unyPtKMZEqeZxK6

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Exactly, a lot is dependent on the subject. Additionally, the hdr auto mode is the worst way to take a picture on this device, where the oil painting effect is mostly obvious. This picture is the worst one I took during the last weeks.

Otherwise the camera can take decent shots when you use manual modeand a lower iso value.

Offtopic: I wasn't able to enjoy one of your ROM or kernel builds since galaxy S3 and hammerhead times. Do you plan anything for Op5? :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Edit:forgot to attach the picture
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yank555:
Offtopic:

Not yet for OP5, but I am running YOSS as daily on my 3t, which is YAOSP features on top of naked CAF base for OP3t (kernel is pretty stock, I don't spend that much time on kernels anymore nowadays).

When I have a little more time, I'll also manage to add OP5 to the ROM and will eventually make it availble publicly ;)

JP.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
Each had good shots.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Slash8915:
Has anyone confirmed whether or not the camera will be improved in the 4.6 update? I keep hearing rumors, but the only thing I've read officially about 4.6 is the battery life improvement.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hecke92:
Anybody with a comparison of OOS Camera and Snap Camera?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] olly2009:
Lightning

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Balino:
Some of them are really good in my opinion.. some others shows that color paint effect anyway
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadymouse:
Exactly what I noticed. I compared it to my Nexus 6P and the 6P smoked it in terms of Details. No comparison when zoomed it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mikulec:
Just downloaded the new Google Camera moded with HDR working so I have made a small comparison woth stock camera (picture above).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzscaK_ix0xmS1JNYm10UkdiNGc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzscaK_ix0xmZmg5ZTNSbzhZOUE/view?usp=sharing
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
What do you think after using it?

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Disgustip8ed:
I'm running stock with the latest updates and the best camera app I have found is Camera MX - Photo, Video, GIF

I'm talking about a simple install with a few tweaks to the preferences and the pics come out WAY better than all of the other camera apps I have tried (lots).
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mikulec:
definitely a lot better in low light, will see in daylight how it performs
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] musz:
Point n shoot. nothing edit.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickliq:
I dunno why, but the modded Google Camera doesn't work properly on my OP5 with Stock OOS 4.5.8. It won't take a picture from the rear camera (FFC is fine) and there's a persistent 'camera" notification in the taskbar. Uninstalled/reinstalled, still not working.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] quini2k:
It's working here (4.5.8, Magisk, Franco kernel)

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mikulec:
Be sure to not use manual focus by tapping the screen, that is broken in that version.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickliq:
Bingo, thank you...that's exactly what I was doing
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] oVeRdOsE.:
4sec shot
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisch91:
Bokeh, no editing.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionakr:
One with stock camera, One with Google camera
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
when I look to your photo "is normal for 500 eur phone?" my answer - NO!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dim_diver:
About google camera with hdr+. I noticed a mesh from circles (aproximatly 3x3 pixels) on every pictures. They appeare on the bright colores.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dim_diver:
Guys, what do you think about this issue? https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/how-to/watercolor-photos-auto-mode-camera-t3657231

Has anybody had the same watercolor effect in auto mode or it doesn't matter?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionakr:
First one with stock camera, second one with gcam 2.2 hdr+
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rohit02:
Yes.. Gcam is way better but the shutter speed is too slow compared to stock cam.

Can we get an update to increase the shutter speed on gcam ? I will then permanently shift to gcam..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Moselpower:
45
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vpr6602:
Anyone take a video in a festival with the OP5 ? I really want to know the result cause ive an honor 8 and there is no saturation the sound is awesome.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
All taken with OOS camera, and edited in Snapseed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionakr:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Loqr2RVRI
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vpr6602:
Damn the sound is so bad ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Swingal:
I kinda like the OnePlus 5 camera ...

https://goo.gl/photos/tvDgwd4bRENJ9NEu8
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] kipue:
I have to say it can take some good looking shots.

Here's one of those, all is left by default.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
Couple of pics from the solar eclipse today.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionakr:
First One with stock camera, second one with Google camera 2.2, third stock with flash
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
Low light night shot.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
How's ppl finding the likes of RR and PA ? PA was really bad for me.. RR definitely better but not compared to stock..

For me we need better cohesion with substratum for stock ROMs to be viable.

RR type ROMs just offer more options..

I've took some decent pics but not with aosp ROMs.

Hopefully things will improve, only I can't see it being by much.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] stebsgb1:
I've found that you get the best photos if you snap in Pro mode on default and then run the image through SnapSeed HDR-Scape with the People setting. Just a slight tweak to bring out the dark areas. You'll get some great results. ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] stebsgb1:
Bokeh effect on a bumble bee. A bit of shake but it's still pretty detailed!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidGX:
I faced a little surprise few days ago when I closed the shutters of my window... :p

Fortunately he did not move until I shot him ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionakr:
First one with 1+5, second one with 1+1. See the loss of detail? 1+5 camera sucks, please oneplus fix this.

OFC i'm joking, just found some old photo and wanna show the difference
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
That's superb, great shot.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] stebsgb1:
Point and click. I took five shots and that was my favourite.

I did some comparison shots between my old OP3 and the OP5 and was surprised that the OP3 actually took a better shot in terms of detail (when zoomed RIGHT IN) but the OP5 has tricks up its sleeve that need the second camera, and it blows other phones out of the water. Very similar to the iPhone 7 which also has the watercolour issue with its software.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hecke92:
Amazing
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] v7:
Seeing some camera improvements listed in the changelog of 4.5.10

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-4-5-10-ota-for-the-oneplus-5.615214/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] fooloptionall:
Hi all,

We are pushing out the incremental roll-out of OxygenOS 4.5.10 OTA for the OnePlus 5. Here are some of the highlights of this build:

Camera:

Photo noise reduction

Improved Camera stability

60 fps video noise and texture improvements

Launcher:

Added country information of photographers in Shot on OnePlus

Phone:

Fixed accidental touches after hanging up

Improved Jio call functionality

Fixed display issue on calling screen

System:

Improved WiFi stability

Fixed clarity issue of videos taken by SnapShot app

Fixed display issue of new font

Fixed scrolling issue of Play Music

As always, this OTA will be incremental. The OTA will reach a small percentage of users today, and we'll begin a broader rollout in a few days.

Your feedback is appreciated. We may not always be able to respond to every comment in the forums, but please be assured that we take your comments and feedback seriously. Hope you enjoy!

Never Settle.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] HexAddict:
I would appreciate some love for the panorama functionality which is just NOT working. Checked with 4.5.10, still unable to stitch images together. This is a working mode in other phone's default camera app. OP dev team, do something about it ! The more people will complain and unite about this, the more effective fix we can expect from OnePlus.