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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
For me the Touchscreen fail while scrolling happens way to often aswell. But I guess that's related to the Software aswell. They will sure calibrate it.

It's sure a Software thing as it happens on any Spot on the screen. Most of the time when making a simple Touch and then trying to scroll fast with one swipe. It will barely move. This isn't even a Firmware thing. You can tell by enabling the Pointer location in Dev options. It will Draw a line even if it didn't scroll much. I think they messed it up while optimizing scrolling . (That natural scrolling experience crap they told on the live show). ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrMeeseeks:
Welp. I just got mine today and it has this problem. I guess I'm going to wait about 10 days or so and see if they fix it. If not, it's going back. I can't stand it. I'm going to keep using my 3T and keeping up with this thread.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
https://www.xda-developers.com/5-days-with-the-oneplus-5/

Watch the Clip at 1:18 you will notice one of the scrolls failing it doesn't get detected by the ui even if the Pointer is actually drawed. It's a Software thing. Also i can see the Jello Effect he doesn't seem to notice trough the Rest of the video
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ronayke:
Thanks for the thoughts!

I have the s6e3fa5 panel (checked with AIDA64) and experience the jello effect. Although, I never noticed some scroll failing (until now).

Does somebody with the same panel experience no jello effect? Or jello effect with the s6e3fa3 version?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Interesting I've just checked mine and that's the A5 panel with jello.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ostendk:
a5 with jello.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] SinisterSloth:
Wondering if it's the A5 panels that only have this issue?

Correct me if I'm wrong. Need more people reporting which displays they have and whether they have issues.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Guys go to the sensors tab in aida64 the scrolling is horrendous! Try scrolling up and down fast the panel is missing so many touches.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ronayke:
You are right! It's horrible! Now I notice that some touches are registered, but the UI doesn't do anything with it! :rolleyes:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ostendk:
I see the same thing with scrooling lifting my finger.

However, in reddit app, chrome, facebook messages it works flawless. No complaints on that front..

Only a lot of Jello on this A5 panel in mine. It's so bad that my motion sickness cuts my toilet visits in half.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Same here a5 Panel, Jello and missing touches. Im sure it will get fixed. We Just need enough people who complain
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghostetr:
No I didn't read it, I've seen serval videos displaying the jelly effect and im telling you 100% sure I don't have it, everything runs smooth here on my op5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
Dont lie yours el, i'll worse.

All screens are upside down and Screen refresh is from down to up, so you have even you dont notice it

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghostetr:
So what your telling me is that I'm able to see the jelly effect from serval people's YouTube videos about it, but on my own oneplus 5 I'm just not capable of noticing it?

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So here's someone adressing the jelly effect, and he proves to have no problem, just like i claim?

So how can his device work fine, but i'm just not noticing it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ8071Dptng
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zathus:
I just got mine today. There is no Jelly effect on my phone. If there is, I can't see it. So I'm happy!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Azdian:
Got my phone today and I noticed the jelly scrolling from the very first few minutes.

I'll just pretend it's an animation feature :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghostetr:
Great, out of curiosity, have you done anything to the device?

more or less 10 minutes after I got mine I Soft Bricked my op5, trying to install TRWP and root it, then I had to flash the stock ROM, and after that I tried installing TWRP again and tried to root it again this time successfully, so I'm wondering if that might have something to do with not everything having the jelly effect?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
Haha, yea, that's what i thought :))

But, the horizontal jelly effect is something i don't like. For example it can be felt easily on xda app (xda forums), when sliding between subscribed topics, participating topics, etc
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zathus:
No. I just set it up. Fingerprint, apps ECT. Changed animation speeds. Pretty basic stuff.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
What's the lastest Carl Pei's statement ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dreinulldrei:
They could fix it: the reason they used the screen upside down is for the connector. But screens work with a very fast serial refresh. If Samsung would make the screen refresh the other way round there would be no problem. I am confident they'll do a running replacement and future revisions to come won't have the issue.

My 3T has the older screen, but they switched to the newer screen for whatever reason.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
3T old screen? What are you talking about?

As to a OP5 revision yes .... it will be called 5T LOL
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
OP3T used two different screen.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Didn't know.

If they fix the OP5 screen orientation I'll buy one in the next minute!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
https://www.killerfeatures.com/carl-pei-oneplus-interview/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
"Most displays refresh from top to bottom. Our display refreshes from bottom to up. And, we are used to seeing the former, therefore our eyes are not used to it. It is a matter of getting used to how the OnePlus 5’s screen refreshes. So, for us it is a product choice and not really an issue per se. And, for the vast majority of our users this is a non-issue. Just that people who don’t have the phone, they get worried.” - Carl Pei

REALLY ?!?? AHAHAHAH

WE ARE ALL STUPID AND BLIND NOW! LOL

Thanks Carl! :laugh:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Wtf if the guy says he has not who are you to decide he lies.

I don't have it either or I do not notice it what is the difference.

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No we aren't but with the last sentence of his tweet is especially for you I think. Lol
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
In my case it is true. I was woried before buying the phone that this is a massive issue, but for me personally, it is ok even if it's very obvious for me.

I can understand that some users can have a reaction because of this, but as you can see, not all are the same
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
No, what he has said is perfectly okay. I know the jelly issue can be annoying for some, but it's not some hardware fault! Hard truth, anyone accepts or not.

And he is totally correct on additional and unfair scrutiny OnePlus gets! S8 has same touch latency as Oneplus 3/3T but no one is complaining or pointing it out, while OnePlus was hounded for it. Infact the touch latency was within the standards, so nobody actually realized there was such a thing before it was tested and found out.

OnePlus is always the target of unfair criticisms, always!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
Regarding s6, s7, s8: Not to mention about the pathetic battery life, extremely poor ram management, pathetic perceived temperature shell (you can cook eggs on samsung flagships).

Ps: i'm coming from Samsung s6 edge and Samsung s7, both used for 1-1+ years. And saw/ researched about the s8.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
But you have, even you don't notice it's objective

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
And what is the purpose of making a deal out of something that you do not notice.

And do you even have the oneplus 5 anyway??
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tendor83:
I guess you are overall pleased with the OP5, am I right?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
Yes. First OP device, and for me, it's more enjoyable than everything i've used.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] chicob:
Someone use News 360 or Flipboard apps or can have a quick test ? Let's have a look on what happen when you turn pages horizontally with images ( in particular with news 360 ). Mine seems like to have the bottom of the screen reach the border before the top, is like to move a gelatine..:eek: I don't know if it is only my unit or my eyes but definitely is not " normal". I owned other OLED device and I am assure you that nothing like this happen. Apart form this I think the phone is great for my experience. Awaiting your feedback guys.. ( btw already open a ticket at oneplus support waiting for their reply)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
It's the jelly effect. It's 'normal' on this phone.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Symphony0fLife:
That's what I don't get. I've had several people tell me that I have it and to see it I need to open a image heavy social media app, set up a camera and film myself scrolling fast as I can and play it back. That's a bunch of ****ing nothing if that's what I have to do to see it. Did that out of curiosity, and sure... It's there, barely noticeable even then. Tried that with my S8+ and it's display is even worse, not just a slight "jelly" to it, but also lots of jitter and lag. Again, not noticeable in daily use.

Even if the problem existed as hyped, it's still nothing as literally no one uses their phone in that way. And if it exists, why do we only ever see the same video as evidence? If the problem were valid and widespread they'd be everywhere. This reminds me of that imaginary bendgate issue the iPhone "had". Supposedly widespread with no number of cases to demonstrate it. Literally just the same one every post and mention.

So who gives a flying ****. There are valid issues to rail against OnePlus about. So for the folks that have either never had one and hate them, or have had one and hate them - make a better case by going after the valid concerns. Like the over-hyping of the camera or lack of now standard features like IP68 or wireless charging. Not a problem to me, but again, at least it's valid.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
You think wrong my friend because I bought one on 1st day and already returned it!

I know what I'm talking :good:

I don't know why people stand beside such declarations that turns consumers into stupid people.

Outside the tech world I can understand no one cares/understands but here in XDA I cant understand why so many people have so low requirements!

If OP said "OK we assembled it wrong." and "We will correct it asap." I could understand.

But throwing sand into our eyes ... nahhhh

At least OP5 should have immediately a price cut of 100€ at least.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] setheleh:
Unregistered topic from now on i got my mi 6 6\128 and very happy so far

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
5.15" screen is no alternative to OP5. :good:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] setheleh:
Yeah but no jelly belly at least...

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
It's your opinion but this has imo nothing to do with being a tech guy or not. If it is not noticeable what is wrong besides the screen is upside down that is a fact.

If a day of experience and not even switching phone give you the right impression I would say you have owned a lot of phones.

Adding this to the tekst you edited :

Why do you assume every op5 is wrong and why the.... Should they ask less. But never mind this in your eyes a tech user is happy with its phone.

Some examples of which brands you should not buy but all non tech users loved.

https://www.androidpit.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-problem-pink-vertical-line-on-display

http://www.iphonehacks.com/iphone-bendgate
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zathus:
It's not low requirements. If you don't see it you don't see it. I don't see it.

I went through six Galaxy S8s because of the pink screen. My wife thought I was nuts because to her it looked normal

I've returned so many phones to T-Mobile they have special notes on my account. So if the issue is there and I could see it I would be all over it. But I can't. So I'm not. I'm sorry that I think this phone is awesome and you didn't. Luckily for you, there are tons of other options and the pixel 2 is right around the corner
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Seriously? Unfair criticism? They've installed the panel upside down, it's terrible engineering and quality control. Then you have the faked benchmarks, the fake 2x optical zoom, no OIS etc etc etc. If One Plus wants to be amongst the big players they need to seriously up their game. Theyre in danger of becoming another Chinese phone company that doesn't deliver. If any phone company does rubbish like this they should be called out, not given a pass because they're "cheaper" or you like them.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
It's not a hardware fault. Period! OP5 screen is also working as any other screen would. Turn any phone upside down and see it. We can't really call it terrible engineering or QC issue. Amazon India has sold tens of thousands of units of OP5. Not even a single review out there is complaining of Jelly Issue. I am not saying it's not there, it's there, i see it, but majority out there doesn't. Neither they have any problem with it. Out of XDA nobody cares about it.

Faked benchmark ? Really ? OnePlus is utilising the same mechanism in their OP5's day to day use. Everytime an app is opened on OP5, all cores go full throttle unlike other phones, so they are showcasing in benchmarks what their phone does in real life.

Fake 2x optical Zoom ? Didn't OnePlus itself clarify it that it's 1.6x ? No ? And it's still a lossless 2X zoom as Ever as OP has implemented. There is no loss in image quality moving to 2x zoom.

No OIS ? SO what ? Did OnePlus ever claim they have provided OIS in OP5 ? Smoking a joint ?

Big players ? Like Samsung ? Lied about UFS 2.1 storage and when found some units are shipping with 2.0, quietly took down listing from their website! Like how S8/+ came suffering from heavily tinted Red/Pink screens(HW fault) and tried to pass it with SW update which actually didn't solve the issue ? Like how they still suck at Ram Management ? My Redmi Note 3 holds more apps in it's 3gb ram compared to Samsung's flagship 4gb ram phones. From S4 days to S8, it's been 4 years, yet their ram management is as pathetic as ever, worst in the industry. And not to mention their absolutely laggy phones. Even the likes of Honor 8 Pro with last year's hardware are beating S8 in Speed! Infact S7 Edge was a step in the right direction but with S8/+ the lag is so pronounced it starts appearing from the very 1st use.

Like Lg V20 ? Whose camera lens started breaking on it's own for no reason ? And their history of bootlooping devices from flagships to low end phones ?

Like Apple ? Who call it an user fault for poor network reception ? Like how their phones started bending even under a little force ?

Who to learn from ? Who are the industry leaders ? Up their game in equivalent to whom ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] T1bolus:
Hey Devs,

did someone tried to increase the display refresh rate?(above 60hz?) It will not eliminate the effect completly but will decrease the perception.

Or to reconfigure the display chip to convert the render direction?

I'm "just" a normal computer developer and don't know much about linux drivers to increase the refresh rate.. or maybe it's impossible because the display chip don't accept the higher bandwidth.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] parusia:
It is hardware problem because the way they installed the screen (upside down). I got both phones the Galaxy S8 plus, and the OnePlus 3T, and I can say that I noticed the touch latency on the 3T since day one, but I never noticed any touch latency on the S8.

I own the OnePlus 5 since day one I ordered the same day that was announced, I get the Jelly effect and noticed the second day I owned the phone. It is not enough issue for me to return the phone, but I'm not defending the CEO coming with stupid answers like "is your eyes" and "it is normal". It's not my eyes, and is not normal, is just a mistake they committed when they took the decision to inverted the display, but instead to own the result of that decision he is blaming his customers.

I really believed that the rant of a lot of people here is that OP make such advertising over the OP5 about the camera, the build, and the awesomeness of the phone that we expect something exceptional and they delivered something very good.

Believe me I love the phone, but I overlooking the flaws in this device. I love the speed, RAM management, the design on this phone, but that doesn't mean I will defend the CEO when he is coming blaming his customers eyes, and insulting the customers intelligence for something he and only him needs to be blamed.

I always said this I really loved the Android community, but I hate to see people been fan boys because once you start to be a fan boy you start to go against the logic and against your own intelligence.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dcdevito:
I don't understand how some people say they "honestly can't see it" lol. EVERY phone has it. It's not a big deal but it's there, it physically is there due to the way they manufactured it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Stop making excuses for a massive phone company Its poor engineering pure and simple and yes,they've faked benchmarks, misled over pure 2x optical zoom etc etc. Why would you want to make excuses for a company like this?! Call out EVERY company that misleads and has poor QC.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] shrubbie:
Well, haven't seen it in single OP5 yet. Have seen it in one video though and that doesn't happen on any OP5 I've seen in real life so there's that.

Maybe it only shows on video recorded on certain fps, who knows. Maybe I'm blind.

And I'm honestly tired of people complaining about screen being upside down or wrong way. It's not.

It's just the other way than most phones. That does not make it faulty or wrong.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Yes it is the wrong way around.The screen refreshing the other way around is causing problems with the way people see it. How can that be acceptable? No other phone manufacturer does this! As someone else has said,don't make excuses for bad phone design .
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dcdevito:
I agree that it isn't a massive issue at all, I see it but it doesn't bother me. My point is that it's on every phone
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] shrubbie:
No it is not. It's other way than most. I've yet to see this effect on any OP5 I've seen. Not making any excuses but why would I bash perfectly good phone if I'm not having any problems with it?

I'm not a sheep, just because the consensus seems to be on hating the phone I do not need to follow to be cool. I am perfectly able to make my own opinions.

And just because you've had a bad experience doesn't necessarily mean it's bad design. But then again, what do I know, you might be the god of designing phones.

Sure it might be. Haven't seen it in real life though. Personally I doubt it's the screen, atleast alone. But people seem to be happy to cling and bash so...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
As a company why would you install it the other way than most then see it in QC and decide to release it? At best its poor QC ,at worst its poor design. There's obviously a reason most flagship companies don't install it this way and just because it doesn't bother you doesn't mean it doesn't exist. OP are continuing to raise their prices but coming up short on design .As a consumer we shouldn't settle and say its fine for them to do this.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] shrubbie:
As a company why would you just copy & paste?

You seem sure that the QC picked up on this, why? None of my friends did. I didn't. Must be poor QC not to pick up on something that isn't there for you or something that you're unable to detect.

There's probably reasons to install the screen otherway too. Just because something is mainstream does not mean it's better. Hitler had followers too you know.

It doesn't bother me because I've yet to see the effect in real life. It might exist, it might not. But as I've said, i doubt it's the screen, atleast alone. If it's there on every phone then most should be able to see it, most don't. Atleast anyone I've met can't.

And to be clear: Nowhere have I stated that this effect dosn't exist. Just haven't seen it real life. Only on one video and that effect has not presented itself on any device I've seen.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
They installed it the "wrong way" around to fit the double camera module in,its been shown in tear downs. Its a muck up by OP and you can bet they'll release a 5T with it "fixed".
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tendor83:
Very wise words, mate! Totally agree with all the covered points!

The OP5 has many strong points over other phones, and of course some flaws. The inverted screen in one of them. But as you said, I'll forgive this flaw and keep the device, because of the strong points, and the acceptable price.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
I think the biggest fault still and always is oneplus raise high expectations by using their community and sometimes those expectations will never happen.

First of all B3501 you are right about most of the things you stated here. But it is a phone you do now that. you have reached the point that you are deciding what others have to see.

And again what is the point of continuing this endless discussion.

Some see it some don't. Deal with it if you see it or sell it if you see the yelly and can't handle it. I really had high hope xda would be a mature forum but it turns out to be yet another oneplus forum lol.

My opinion again :

The yelly videos I never have seen them on the 2 op5 's I used. So I am happy with this phone and I think this is nice improvement over my op3.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Yes,its a phone and if some people love it and don't see any faults then that's entirely up to them, at the end of the day I don't really care. What annoys me is a company trying to take advantage of its fans and then people being swept up in the hype that isn't deserved. If OP produced a great phone with no faults then great, the 3T despite having problems was pretty great but from a technical view the 5 has some real issues that OP shouldn't be let off the hook about.If they're are they'll continue to charge more and more for products that are less and less good. Give credit when its due and heat when its not,not blind fanboy praise.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
And again if fans and people accept this doesn't that say more about them.

And if somebody wants to let oneplus know you are angry is this the place and way to do it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] worldsoutro:
Oneplus isn't going to fix it as it would cost too much. They are sweeping it under the rug.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
“There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn’t want to see. There is no worse deaf man than the one who doesn’t want to hear. And there is no worse madman than the one who doesn’t want to understand.” -Ancient Proverb