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[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
Maybe i should said 'not all' instead 'many' when referring to money :D. Sorry, my mistake!

The jelly effect will remain the same (if they wont do any change in the firmware). It's simply the way how the display refreshes (from bottom vs top). It's like "normal" displays but inverted. That's all.

Performance degrades considerably because of cheap nand flash storage, but the oneplus has better quality ufs2.1.

Battery life degrades, anyway, i don't think people will keep 5 year technology in their pockets. Myself i am keep saying that I will keep device longer blabla, but every 1-2 years i got owned :D. Here you can see how often i change the devices: http://mowned.com/dsf

Resale value - hmm, I don't care too much if i've enjoyed and used the device. My s7 was 690 euro. And i will sell it with 219 euro - also the paint from the fingerprint sensor pealed off.

And ofc i am pisses of the overhyped camera! At least if OP wouldn't promote as it's best of the best.. and they didn't even bother to put OIS..

For me, unfortunately, I cannot get a better alternative. If i return the OP5, i will get something worse and even more expensive (if we talk about money) for <<my needs>>!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Tendor83:
In many parts I totally agree with you. Very realistic conclusion. In the end, after the return, you have to pick another good value phone. And it seems that the Op5 is still no1, in the list. At least for me...[emoji3]
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
At the moment I'm looking as an alternative to Honor 8 Pro. Do you know it?

Priced in the middle of OP5 6G and 8G models, 5.7" 2K display (so VR ready), 6GB mem, 4000mAh, Kirin 960....

Seens a great device but what's holding me back is the poor update support from Honor.

Sammy S8 and LG G6 is atm out of my alternative list.

We don't have many alternatives as you all acknowledge. :crying:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
Well I have officially decided to return my OP5 - already setup a return on their website. I voted for camera reasons, but that is actually a secondary reason. The main reason is because I also have the Pixel XL, and I couldn't justify having two smartphones at once. I've never owned more than one smartphone at once, but the OP5 was attractive enough for me to want to try and make having two phones at once work somehow.

It took me just a day of use to realize there is no need for me to have more than one smartphone at a time, and at this point, it was just a matter of deciding if I want to sell my Pixel XL or return the OP5. This is where the secondary reason comes in: the camera. Both devices are really great, and the OP5 is a lot more promising in terms of development as well. However, when it came down to choosing which camera I would want between the two, the Pixel XL won.

The display: coming from a 1440p screen to 1080p, I really couldn't tell the difference; the OP5's screen looked just as good to me.

The jelly scrolling issue: I did see it on my device, but it was definitely not anything that bothered me at all; in fact, the scrolling effect kind of looked cool, lol.

The build: amazingly built phone, design beats the Pixel by a landslide. The phone is super slippery though, and at least for me, impossible to use without a case. Other than that, beautifully designed device!

At the end of the day, the 5 is an amazing phone, but as soon as I had the device in my hands, I realized owning two smartphones at once just doesn't make sense (at least not for me). Furthermore, I realized I was never going to use the alert slider, as I use Tasker to automatically handle my ringer modes for me. I also prefer a fingerprint scanner on the back of a phone. Lastly, as mentioned earlier, the camera on the Pixel XL is superior to me, compared to the 5. All of this combined is what led me to decide to return the OP5.

Depending on the amount of development for the next generation Pixel devices, I may come back to OnePlus, but for now, I will stick with my Pixel XL!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DoobyDroid:
Glad I sold mine ???
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
WTF?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] extremeinside:
Regulatory labels

Hello everyone, I have a question for you, I'm living in Romania and bought the phone from a local store in Bucharest but in settings I show that the phone is for US

And Canada is normal, I want to return.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
It's normal. Got the same and i've bought the device directly from one plus.

I am from Romania too, i saw the big retailer (emag) is selling the 128 variant with about 720 euro, greedy..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gonsa:
I hope the time allowed to send the device back starts counting on the date of arrival and not the purchase date, because the estimated arrival time is 15 days.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
It's, the date is the time of arrival. (In Europe)

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[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
RMA clock starts ticking on arrival date!

One doubt .... what will OP do with the returned phones?? Will they sell them as refurbished or as new again??
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] pirilampus:
I was afraid of that idea, since I ordered my OP5 on 11th July. However, I've found this. It's old, I know, but I believe it still aplies.

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/in-response-to-the-refurbished-phone-rumors.199321/

(Don't know if I can post this link or not. If not, I will remove it)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Im_Mattgame:
How can you return a phone like the Oneplus 5 for "design reasons" while also having an XDA account? ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Tendor83:
It's the normal version, don't worry. Mine was shipped from Poland to Bucharest, and I have the exact Regulatory labels.

What are the reasons for your decision to return it?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
I think this year there is only one version for all the world. No American or European version. The only difference is the software (In China there is no play store).

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[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] p51d007:
I was on their user forum site (I thought iPhone fanboys were bad!) One user had a clip from an online chat with an OnePlus

help person about the jelly effect problem.

Get this one..."while many smartphone displays refresh from top to bottom, the OnePlus 5 display refreshes from bottom up.

Since we are use to seeing the former, our eyes are not use to it which is just a matter of getting use to how the oneplus 5

display refreshes.

This is about as good as when the OnePlus One display had the yellow stain, and OnePlus first said it was because they

set the screen to a more "warm" color.

Consummate BS artist at Oppo-OnePlus!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gore2kill4:
I returned. I'm not going to be a beta tester. And the reverse screen is a joke.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
What's your daily driver now?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] knight268:
One plus 5

I just got my one plus 5 from China. Does anyone know how to update it to the Oxygen OS version?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MarkGbe:
Go figure, the phone with the premium price is more premium.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
LOL
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
Tuesday is my last day for a return .... still not 100% convinced to keep it but I look to the market and see nothing that convinces me more :( dammm...
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gonsa:
I'm in the same boat as you but I've made up my mind. I'm keeping this phone. It is amazing and I got used to it's size and to the jelly effect. The upsides are way more than the downsides.

Very happy with it. :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
Same boat as well but went with the return. Had a 3t since launch and love it but wanted a better camera after taking it on a day trip to Boston. The camera struggled a bit even in good lighting. I was looking forward to the 05 because OP really hyped up the camera but the end results weren't too good. I was going to keep it anyways but for $50 I could get the HTC u11 6gb 128gm which is a no brainer
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
I don't like the u11 because of the nav keys fixed position, the lack of jack, the small home button seems awkward, the higher price here in europe(100 euros more than op5!), the software also has more bloat than the op5.

The episode of displaying adds in the official keyboard makes me afraid of what more is installed.

Overall u11 seems nothing special to me for the price.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
For me htc 11 is a no go from start: glass back and bulkier. I think the older metallic phones were much better in hand feel/clean

When i got the op5 i wqs afraid of the wifi issues, but it seems fine.. so no reason to return. Best phone i ever owned. Not perfect in everything (subpar camera, speaker is too flat/tiny, no ip68 cert, etc(
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] parusia:
According to your logic, you owned very crappy phones before the OnePlus 5. You are saying that is the "best phone" you ever owned, and in the same paragraph you are saying that the camera is sub par, the speaker is too flat and tiny, doesn't have ip68 rating, etc. Your standards for a "best phone" are very low then.

I owned the OP5 but this is far away from the best phone for me. Is a good phone but with a bunch of flaws that make this phone not what OP was announcing before the launch of the OP5.

I owned the OP2 that was abandoned by OP I gave that to my nephew, I owned the OP3 for few months and then I sold that one, I owned the OP3T and I sold that one to buy the OP5.

As you can see I really like OP phones, but the OP5 is not really the "best phone" I ever owned.

To be honest I believe that the OP3T is the best phone that OP created so far.

I know a lot of fanboys are going to disagree with me, because that is what a fanboy does, going against the logic, against reality, and at the end against their own intelligence.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
Sorry, Best phone for my needs: performance, smoothness, ram management, UI, battery life, perceived shell temperature, metal back.

The rest are not top prio, but very nice to have.

Last phones i've owned were s6 edge and s7 (over 2y). So i compare with that
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
I've got a Mi Mix and am on the fence about selling it to buy a OnePlus 5. The mix is gorgeous, but the aosp ROMs still have some annoying bugs (device heats up, speaker phone broken). Been using miui until those get fixed, which is pretty meh. I miss the off screen gestures of my old OP3, oxygen os, and a much larger dev community. Not sure if I could go back to that little baby screen and tiny battery, though. The speakers on the Mix are also crazy good. For $500, seems like it would be a good alternative for those who aren't happy with their OnePlus 5.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
My 14 day is ending today ... FYI I'm keeping it ;)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] NightOrchid:
Agreed with most folk here... I love my OP5 and keeping it... Yeah the "Portrait Mode" could do with some "Serious" work and the EIS "Occasionally" messes up... but the camera is good and OP seem committed to the 5... we now have EIS in 4K mode.. so IMO lets see how they do... Im sure the 5 can only get better...

Nothing wrong with the Display, this so-called "Jelly Effect" hysteria thats been created is ridiculously stupid, I saw The Design all over the web from the leaks and reviews, so I knew EXACTLY what I was buying and I tested the camera in store.. I liked it..

See I dont need YouTube to tell me what I should and shouldnt buy and some fool to tell me the screen bounces or not ... I knew what I was buying.. and I like it :)

Has it actually occurred to people that these videos are created by Apple Fanbois and OP "haters" by setting the frame rate on the cameras being used to film this so-called "jelly effect" and so creating a false image due to the FPS and Hz difference of what your watching it on... then you see it, therefore creating an illusion in your mind of what "they tell you" to see rather than what is...

Its called "Auto suggestion"
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jeremymolina:
I'm completely agreed with you, people just overreact to media and make something really small a big deal. People today just want that everything works perfect, welcome to the real world, it is never that way. Every kind of thing have there pros and cons, depends on your desire you picked which thing can be a pro for you that manner and cons for you that don't even matter at all.

The phone just works as I expected, the phone is always fast and smooth, regarding the camera I took some pictures I was kind of impress, however, I have never been a big fan of cameras on a smartphone so this doesn't impact in my usage. The sound is pretty good but the position of the speaker is not accurate because if you are right handed you can easily mute the speaker with your hand. FPS is incredibly responsive, accurate and fast.

Edit*, By the way, I really wish that OOS include dual-app in the core as MIUI or EMUI, that way I don't have to use a third party app like Parallels. - common this is a dual sim phone, this thing should be native.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jvidia:
What is dual-app?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jeremymolina:
Refer to Parallels space app, having two Whatsapp for example.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
Little update on my return:

I am most likely going to repurchase the OP5 as I realized now is the best time to sell my Google Pixel XL (before the Pixel 2 releases and causes the Pixel 1 to heavily lose resell value).

My only concern after purchasing the 5 again is trying to find a custom ROM that has similar features, stability and smoothness as PureNexus on my Pixel XL!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] naturist:
I've returned it. Don't want to write a big paragraph about it but I was a bit dissatisfied with the Camera quality. The phone is good overall but with the recent updates of adding more bugs and than rolling back the update was the push for me to press the return button. No regrets.

Planning to wait for Pixel v2 or iPhone 8. Meanwhile, will get a cheaper phone of Xiaomi ( which I sold recently) for OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] NightOrchid:
Exactly,, well said.... like most things in Life... you gotta give things a chance :)

Returning the 5 for camera reasons and issues, I can totally understand that .. the EIS messes up something bad sometimes and still needs work, plus camera quality is subjective and isnt for everyone... Some folk may like the Saturated effect of an S8, or the really sharpened G6, I like a more softer natural look of an Xperia or, now the OP 5... Im not saying Im right, its just my personal opinion :)

Good luck with your Pixel 2 friend :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] oVeRdOsE.:
cmon guys ! Theres a fcking tons of review of this phone online, before buying it, just watch.

Avoid return it, this will help keeping prices low.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] theserpent:
I love op5 and I will keep it. Sure, the camera isn't the best but its MUCH better than my Redmi Note 3. So yea, I will keep it
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] herwarth:
All the crap about the camera. Everyone is *****ing about it but in reality they are just repeating each other.

I had a OnePlus 3T and that camera sucked! In low light every picture was blurry. Only when putting it in manual mode and selecting a shutter time by hand helped making sharp pictures but very grainy.

The OnePlus 5 camera is way better! And in low light it creates some noise. Every phone camera does! Only the smart ones like Samsung uses post processing to blur the noise out.... You cannot get enough light through that tiny lens. Period!

I am not going to talk about jelly because that is the most overreacted crap I have heard in telephone reviews! And again everyone is parroting each other.... Makes me sick!

I ordered a midnight black using the early bird code and loving it!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
Honestly.. the s7/s8 camera is overhyped.. just took a look yesterday on my desktop at my s7 photos.. and many of them were blurry in decent natural light, it seems that ois ain't do no magic if a bit shake and/or subject is not near perfectly still :). Not to metion that i cannot zoom too much because the artifacts show like crazy.

So.. after all, s7/s8 camera is a tad better in low light. But that's all.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
You can check also the gsmarena camera tests.

http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8630&idPhone2=8647&idPhone3=8161

Also low light sux on s8 too. Anyway, htc u11 feels the best, but not far away from the other too
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kr3pt:
Came from an s7, co-worker has an s8 and I think the OP5

camera is beautiful. Easily comparable photo quality. If you're crying about low light, but a lamp or get a real camera. In terms of phones, this phone takes exceptional photos.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kg3:
I think my OP5 is defective.

I have put a replacement service request through. When I receive a new phone does the 15 day period start again?

If not, would it be better to request a refund then just buy a new OP5 again?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] :
Is OP5 worth it?, i'm thinking to sell my U11 (obviously better phone) but there's no development for it, no custom or AOSP ROMs at all.. and that's what i need.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] 1rahul:
Camera Issue

I have Returned my One Plus 5 Because My Camera had a Lag when Moving,Doesn't matter how many time I format it

seemed like a Defect, Although I will be ordering the same phone again because I am satisfied with everything else :D
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] lisboapcs:
I am one of those who don't use the camera that much, still am very satisfied. Best smartphone I bought!!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] stalecheetos:
I'm basically in the same boat. I was a big fan of my Nexus phones and 3T but always wanted a better camera. I was expecting the OP5 to have a top notch smartphone camera with quality at least near the current leaders, but unfortunately the OP5 cameras are made of hype. I really hate Samsungs bloatware and I have not had a Samsung phone since the Note II because of it, but when you can get a S8+ for cheaper than the OP5 it makes the decision harder.

I think my problem is the hyped OP5 is the phone I wanted, but that phone isn't real and there isn't really a good alternative available yet.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
I think we are better off waiting and saving more money for the pixel 2.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
Expect to be paying around $900-1000 for it.

Anyway, let's face facts. The OP5 is a mediocre Chinese phone priced close to the flagships and hyped beyond what it deserves.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
I need to stop buying multiple phones a year and start sticking to one. If I had to choose a phone to stay with for 2 years it would be the pixel because of the updates for at least 2 years.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] stalecheetos:
Yep, I'm thinking the same. Unfortunately my 3T is getting passed on to someone to replace a bootlooping nexus 5X (damn you LG) so I need a replacement now.

I already purchased the S8+ BOGO deal. I'll sell one and use the other probably until the pixel comes out this fall. At that point the Note 8 will be out and Samsung will already have stopped putting out software updates for the s8 anyway, lol.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] tranemonk:
I pretty much agree with everything you just said. Now if I just get a damn case ,,,,,,:(
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] fredderf81:
camera is a poor excuse for a flagship camera

i'm sorry to those who love the device, but i'm coming from a htc 10 and the camera on the 10 just destroys the 5. the shots are fast though!!! but the noise and grain is a total killer. also, the 2x zoom is a total gimmick. the zoom shots are crazy grainy and digitized. it is basically useless. i got the phone today...i'm returning it today.

other than that. the phone is crazy fast, the build is great, the screen is clearer than my 10, the battery life seems great; for the hour i used it i only drained 2 %. the quick charge is crazy fast. the ear buds that come with it are really nice too.

the camera is a deal breaker for me....can't spend money on something that is newer than the device i'm already using, yet can't hold up to the features i use the most.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] fards:
There's loads of cases on Amazon UK.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?k=oneplus+5+case
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] noeldavid:
I called Fedex to have them Return To Sender. Will get the offer of $350 for the V20 on eBay or might bite for the 2 year warranty LG G6 for below $400. No cases, no screen protectors, NO CLEARER PHOTOS, shaky 4k video, late shipment. How fast will this phone devalue in 3 months when the pixels arrive. Will wait for a better phone, Axon 8 for $400 speakers rule
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hastaloego:
lucky me, im not a professional photographer like you all guys.. so the camera is not a priority to me.. and who takes pictures at low light night anyway ? only you pervs sitting on a tree in front of your crush's bedroom window... :D im happy as long as i can take the usual picture of my cat. and about the other stuff, getting s8+ and blaa.. ppl on XDA like to play with there phones, using custom roms and stuff.. and now go and compare the S8+ developer forum with the 1+3 and now 1+5 forum.. i want a fast phone with enough ram to be able to dream about android / windows 10 dual boot and a active developer community to even realize that.. so i will buy the Op5 despite all the troublemaker and killjoys and trust in its community :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] dlads:
I've just ordered the oneplus 5 and I'm writing this on my HTC 10. I hope that your experience isn't the same for me, once I've sold my 10 I'll be getting the 1+ for around 200 quid got the 128GB variant.

For me the HTC 10s camera wasn't great, lots of smears on the lens all the time, takes a great pic but the glare from smears was irritating, I know I'll miss ois but from the reviews eis isn't too shabby.

I'm sure they'll update the camera software, the snappers they've used are actually decent units which can work well, I think it's unfair at the moment to damn them, this is day one of the actual sale so an update or two and we'll see.

Saying that if it's that bad I'll probably return it myself [emoji6]

Just hope that's not the case.

Has anyone actually had a good experience with the camera??
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DoobyDroid:
Seems to me new tech in an old shell was slightly let down by screen could of been better QHD and 4000mAh ? at least , screen has that white/yellow Hue , camera is pretty good in my book not a big picture taker so not really tested all modes yet , sure future updates will address these niggles

Overall I'm impressed with speed and overall feel of op5 would I return it ? Probably not as A" it was a gift and B I love the fact it's got 8GB of ram and big development it's future proof , well at least till next upgrade Time ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] LeKeiser:
This is not a poll, this is a flame post.

Blazingly stupid. You don't like the O+5?

_ don't buy it

_ don't come on forums talking about the O+5, what's the point??

_ change the subject if it comes to the O+5

Easy....