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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] thaidroid:
I've had my OP5 for one month and noticed jello effect ONCE, cant even remember where it was
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaReDeViL:
Yesterday, I bought a oneplus 5 128gb 8gb midnight black and noticed the effect from the first minute of use and kept seeing it everywhere... I tried to convince myself that it's my eyes but failed. IT'S THERE NO MATTER WHAT CAN BE SAID ! It's really sad. I really wanted to keep this beast but I'm back to my S8+ again after a 1 day break ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rebel7022:
Get over it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
:eek:

We are paying nearly $1000 for this device, I don't think "getting over it" is a valid solution to this.

Some see it more intensely than others, if he sees it more than you, he has every right to return it and use a device that suits him best, rather than having to get used, it and just 'get over it' :/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rebel7022:
Bro jelly is for people that got too much time on they're hands. My p5 is dope barley see the jelly. I'm just gonna sell my p5 for the p5t in 3 months. I can live with a barley there jelly. I can barley see it. I'm done whih this thread
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
The fact that you said you can *barely* see it proves that there is something there that is unusual. You may be able to sell and buy like that, but others aren't the same in that regard. Some like to keep a device for a longer period, so an issue like this is well worth discussing (just look at the views/replies on this thread alone).

You can live with the jelly scroll (and so can I), but some can't, and it's totally fine if they want to return their device for a refund, they have every right to do so!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tendor83:
It been stated countless of time in this thread and elsewhere o the web, that this device has the screen mounted upside-down. The effect of this design decision is the infamous jelly effect, present on 100% of the OP5 manufactured up until present day.

You're right, we either accept it, of return/sell it.

I have accepted it and moved on.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
Yes, I'm not arguing otherwise. I am aware of why this effect is present, all I was saying is that it's perfectly okay for consumers to return the device if they feel it degrades the quality/experience of the device.

The previous person saying "get over it" didn't seem like a strong enough reason to keep a device that we spent so much money on; the way we all perceive this "effect" is subjective, so all I was saying is it's reasonable for him to want to return the device and go back to his Samsung! :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaReDeViL:
The idea behing getting the op5 128gb was to get a "flagship killer" which would deliver me from sammy world ... but getting it just to keep lying to myself (get over it ...) that everything's ok and preventing my sense of logic from saying I had better experience before this op5 ... NO ! Those smartphones are now so tied to our lives and we deserve to have perfection in our hands ;)

I respect all the point of views on the thread and this is my personal pov which I share with you. Do not take it as a try to influence you or you'll get offensed which results in soooo many useless harmfull posts. Let's get over it ...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rebel7022:
Hey I'm picky when I comes to phones, but this jelly is not noticeable & I highly recommend the phone. Since I got it in June I haven't put it down. The community is constantly coming up with mods & alot of quality devs build for the 5. GUYS, RELAX, do your best to keep the 5 in good condition, save 20 bucks a month, when the 5t comes out you can sell the op5 for 350 to 400 , EASY " I sold my 3t after the op5 was released for 420. I sold my OP2 for 150 about 6 months ago, the oneplus phones sell easy. Think of it as your renting the op5 phone till the 5t comes out & your gonna trade it in, so the less scratches the easier to sell. So when everything is said and done You played the op5 for 200 bucks for 6 months.. Big deal that's a couple weekends & a dinner out I'll skip.

I'm having a blast on my 5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KeepItzRoot:
I have 3 phones, Oneplus 5 (128gb), S8 and HTC U11. The jello effect, I dont see it. This phone is great but its not smooth like my S8 (exynos variant). There is no competition as far as screen goes. Samsung has perfected Amoled technology, compare the two side by side, you can really see that the Oneplus Screen is really behind.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] halfbytecode:
The recently released Soft Gold version of the phone, also has this issue.

That is correct, right?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] xxBrun0xx:
Yes. It's a new color, not a new design.

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OnePlus buys amoled panels from Samsung (because they are the only one who makes them afaik). Samsung only sells the last generation panels to other phone manufacturers and keeps the newest stuff for themselves. OnePlus is using the same panel as was used on the OnePlus 3, so it's at least 2 generations behind what is in the s8.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] halfbytecode:
I was hoping it was an unadvertised hardware revision, like it has been for other devices, such as nexus 4, nexus 5, etc.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Ok so after being the voice of a debunker i think i may have a situation where the jelly effect is present, i'm not 100% if i'm seeing things or not.

It's not a vertical effect it's horizontal!!

within the google dialer where you have your favourites, your call log then your contacts if you swipe left to right you'll notice that the bottom of the screen is ahead of the top! Not even sure if this is an intended animation as i actually quite like the look of it :)

Haven't noticed anything like this vertically, can anyone else confirm if this is the jelly effect that people are talking about?

If that's it then honestly i'm not sure what the fuss is all about :) Looks quite cool
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KeepItzRoot:
seems about right....man the colors are like night and day difference. Its not like a debate 1080p vs 1440p on a phone, this you can truly see.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] felipenam:
so is this super jelly thing something that can be improved or fixed overtime???

I dont know if I have to wait or just sell this phoneeee
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wanam:
Been using it for almost a month now, maybe I'm blind, luckily I didn't notice any jelly effect on mine.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaReDeViL:
I trust you! We are not all supposed to see/feel it. Some see it, others tolerate it, more others get over it and some don't even notice it ... Luckily we are all different :o ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
I see it now, but it's nothing lol.. basically swipe left or right, better if you have something on screen with a straight line like a calendar widget, then slowly swipe left or right and you'll notice the bottom of the widget moves first and then the rest follows..it's like a staggered effect. I literally only noticed it today. But I have to say, I actually like it..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] felipenam:
Anyoneeee
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
No it cannot. If you have it, notice it and it annoys you, either get over it out return your device..

It cannot be changed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KeepItzRoot:
its a physical "defect" not a software bug, so no it will not, but honestly its not noticeable, people wont even know its there. sat next to my S8 and U11 I dont see it, but the screen is not as good as the S8 (or U11) sadly thats why I sold my OP5. The screen on the S8 will blow it away, and the speakers have so much sibilance (the 'ssssss' after every word) its quiet annoying, so I decide to keep my S8. If you dont have another phone side by side you wont notice it, enjoy the phone. I still would buy it over the U11.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Got my Gold 5 2 days ago and I immediately noticed the jelly effect. I was expecting it and didn't really think it a big deal but man, I'm actually finding it quite distracting, irritating and a little annoying!! I'm slightly disappointed...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
I'm surprised at Oneplus rather blase approach to this whole issue. Far more established tech companies have gone belly up, for far less. They basically launching one device annually and in this case have erred. I wonder how adverse an effect this anomaly has had on sales?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
I'm using the OP5 for few days now...jelly effect is clearly noticeable but not a big deal for me ..phone is very fast and smooth further...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] durikmel:
I am not quite convinced that this is a hardware issue that can not be solved in software. from my reading of https://source.android.com/devices/graphics/implement-vsync it looks like the parameters VSYNC_EVENT_PHASE_OFFSET_NS and SF_VSYNC_EVENT_PHASE_OFFSET_NS need to be set accordingly.

It looks like a fine developer over at LineageOS has already done that: https://review.lineageos.org/c/184335/2/BoardConfig.mk

in my build, this isn't available yet:

does anyone have a kernel build that has those parameters set properly and can confirm that those help? The commit uses the numbers from OnePlus 3T, which doesn't have a reversed display. potentially the proper settings are reversing those two parameters.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] unrealmac:
I do not understand anything of which you are saying but isn`t the only solve for this problem to recode the display drivers so that the display is getting refreshed vice versa? Is this even possible with an oxygen software update?

Can anyone tell me if he/she has gotten used to the jello scrolling? I am noticing it and I am not sure if I should send my OP5 back. The question would be what other smartphone is the alternative.. :confused:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
There is a software work around, not ideal though. It's called Rotation control and it's an app off the playstore that basically allows the user to invert the screen, therefore using the screen upside down. It's really amazing for me to experience how the screen should be refreshing and responding but not practical to use in the long term...

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Looks promising!! Wonder if the programmers over at Oneplus have looked at this and are formulating a software based solution to this issue???!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] durikmel:
Using rotation control does help quite a bit with the jelly scrolling but it doesn't fully fix it for me. Rather than being visible in the upper half of the screen it is, although a lot less severe then in the lower half. Which makes me believe it isn't only the reverse refresh that causes it.

I'm not sure that one can get used to it, it is just too annoying. I am about to return the phone or sell it again.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
If they admit liability for it being a fault then they're obliged to fix it, and seeing as every device potentially has this problem, then the likelihood of getting one plus to take the device back and apologise then provide a replacement device with a screen not susceptible to this effect are less than winning the lottery.

Personally I can live with it. I only see it in two apps, Google contacts (swiping left to right) and fotmob ( also swiping left to right)

Vertically I cannot see the issue.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] felipenam:
I sold the OP5 and got a HTC U11 instead.... The OP5 its a good phone , but I couldn't stand that jello screen... So far the HTC screen is muh better and the phone is fast too... The only thing that I'm missing may be the battery life , I think was a little bit better on the OP5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Long time fan of HTC devices, but every now and then I'll get something else, the 11 didn't quite do it for me and the performance of the +5 sells itself..

Both phones are superb though so win win .
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KeepItzRoot:
Battery is better on OP5 and S8 for me, I can barely get over 4 hours with the U11. The U11 virtually has nothing better but the front speakers, but that is mitigated when developer came out with mods to make the OP5 and S8 front speaker into stereo speaker. Honestly there is nothing the U11 can do better than the other phones, they are not standing out enough for anyone to take notice of them, and say what you will but people will preffer a 3.5mm headjack over carrying a pigtail dongle.

OP5 is good but just too much sibilance in the speakers, and the screen is no where near the S8, that is the reason why I gave my U11 away and sold my OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
What's the general consensus regarding enabling Force GPU rendering in Developer options as a remedy to the jelly scroll anomaly?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marvi0:
I also noticed the jello straight away. The worst part is how oneplus handled this and decided to "hide behind a rock and ride it out". I certainly didn't buy it and really wonder how much of a hit this issue had on sales. With no potential fixes and solutions from oneplus, just shows their showdy practice. Definitely moving well clear of them.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] stanley08:
At first I was bothered. Now I'm not any more. My OP5 works great!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
Maybe it's just my eyes, but I cannot see the jello issue on my op5. I get the 128GB version. Anyway, whether it's there or not, I fall in love with op5. It's the best phone I have ever used. It's smoothness and speed are just crazy good!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
You can kind of see the jelly effect when scrolling left or right.

Swipe slowly and you'll notice that the bottom of the screen moves slightly faster than the top, it's like the top has trouble catching up.

It's very slight and in all honesty I actually think it looks quite cool :) but that's me.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] .vermilion:
I noticed it when scrolling left or right as well, especially with my recent setup in Nova Launcher. But I think it looks kinda cool, too :D

In vertical scrolling there isn't such an effect (at least for my device).
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Aye vertically I see nothing at all.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marko94:
What about that jelly effect ? it is in every oneplus 5 devices or not ? can someone share video about it ? I am thinking to buy this phone, but after reading this , I am in doubt.. Thanks :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Really ??try search here on YouTube or Google.

Oh and when you cannot decide just do not buy it.

1 little thing i own and use a op5 here and it is a great phone with or without yelly.

Still have to see the yelly:)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] exce1ia:
It's in every phone. But believe me, it isn't a dealbreaker. I got one myself yesterday and it's not really bothering me at all.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Feedmeeeee:
I was very worried about jelly before i buy the phone.. i just wanted to share my review on it.. its just invisible now you cant see your jelly effect after use your phone 15 days. trust me no need to not buy phone for this issue or return the phone for this issue..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Yeah, definitely becomes less prevalent once one gets used to it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cabledaliens:
I hated it. Noticed it as soon as I turned it on and came here (hadn't been on in a while, thanks to a perfectly functioning 3). Noticed the 3 was way more useable. The jelly effect, scrolling, touch latency, etc. made the 5 so difficult to use. Kept going back to the three.

I knew the jelly want going anywhere but it wasn't as bad as the weird latency. I went to RR and it worked 100x better than OOS ROMs. With Blu active and RR, jelly is still there and it always will be, but a good deal of the scrolling "lag" disappeared. Way more useable now.

That jelly sucks and it's super noticeable at first. If you're like I am, it may not be the phone for you. No regrets, but given the option, if like to think that I would wait for next gen. But I've grown used to it now (until I pick up my 3 probably). Otherwise, don't let it deter you [any potential buyers]. The hardware on this thing is insane.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] A.helmy:
i got the phone 2 weeks ago, updated it to 4.5.10 and i don'f feel any jelly effect while scrolling or elsewhere, wonder why people complaining !
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marko94:
Every people have different opinion for jelly, touch etc.. Will see when I get my op5 tmrw :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Feldunoob:
Well I am sure Samsung can do something bout this, since it's all handled by controller.

This means it can be patched by firmware/software update.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] protim:
Luckily never found out this issue in my OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] oVeRdOsE.:
No jelly effect at all.

Coming from LG Gpro with a ips screen, and I see no difference in the ''jelly effect''.

My op5 was build in june 2017, 64gb.

I even compared it with my wife's op3, it looks the same when I'm scrolling.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] exce1ia:
I have an OCD but this Jello effect didn't bother me at all. Yes it exist but you shouldn't worry about it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Naprzod:
Just to clear, this is not the jelly, this is another thing of amoled screens (I think it's on all amoled at low brightness).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVOvsE_l2Y
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
No of course it is not the video speaks for itself op3. And his problem has to be something with brightness control not the refresh direction of the screen. But if searched you would have had your answer.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Naprzod:
I already have my answer, i know that is not the jelly effect, I just pointed that out because many people could think that is the jelly.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chaplan:
What that video shows is black ghosting/smearing.

Happens when pixels are in an OFF state and because you scroll they turn ON but not as fast as its needed to not show this ghosting.

This is AMOLED tech related, you won't get it on IPS panel.

Nothing to do with brightness control, although on lower brightness you will find it more prominent.

It's there if you increase the brightness as well.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
I only notice the jelly when scrolling left to right.

Open phone book, swipe between the windows left to right..

Make sure to not let go of the screen, place your finger at the bottom, swipe slowly and consistently.

What you're looking for is the contents of each screen moving at different speeds.

The bottom (where your thumb is) will move first then the top will follow suit.

The top should be slightly behind.

This is the only jelly effect I've witnessed but I actually quite like the effect.

Vertically I cannot see it on any of the two devices I've bought and nether can my colleagues on theirs, total of 6 devices.

Perhaps what I'm seeing isn't the fabled jelly? If it is then it's not bad is actually quite cool :good:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] v0 HaVoK 0v:
Ok, I can confirm no jelly on panel a6. Just repaired my screen and now the panel ID is the 6, it doesn't seem to have jelly but there's a weird tear every now and then
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vortex-5:
I thought they all had jelly.

I guess there's no way to find out your panel id unless you open it.

I haven't really noticed the jelly effect on mine either my panel is from late august batch, august 25th
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Marcb:
I notice it all the time... and my OCD is killing me... but I'm trying to live with it....
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] v0 HaVoK 0v:
I thought the same, I didn't think panel ID would change no matter what screen I put in, but I was wrong, after changing the panel it actually changed in aida. So it doesn't just report the panel it comes with.

This one is giving no jelly, but nearly seems as though they attempted to invert the refresh, as every now and then I get a weird slow refreshing line that goes from top to bottom, not bottom to top anymore. But I have to say the weird line is much worse than jelly
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vortex-5:
Panel ID: s6e3fa5 1080p cmd mode dsi panel

Not sure how to interpret this panel id this is from AIDA64
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mdrejhon:
Unfortunately, it's caused by the screen scan direction. It also happens during scrolling on 60Hz iPads in certain screen rotations. It also happens to computer monitors rotated in portrait orientations too.

I have created an animation to test jelly effect on monitor, screen, tablet, or phone. Google "TestUFO Scan Skew" for the jelly effect animation.

(I can't post the link since I'm a new member -- but maybe you can post it)

Technical cause:

The screen refreshes the right edge 1/60sec after the left edge (or vice versa). As you scroll, your eyes are moving vertically, but the screen is refreshing sideways. This creates the jello effect.

Future fixes for phones:

-- Use 120Hz screens. It fixes most of the jelly effect.

-- Use screen refreshing scanout along the scroll direction, not sideways to scroll direction.

Thanks,

Mark Rejhon

Chief Blur Buster
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eric214:
I think you're 8 months late to the party man!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] HoganSam123:
Does anyone know if oneplus has fixed it yet?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vandizzam:
Yes. They released another phone.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
This is a hardware issue. It cannot be fixed with software updates.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
That's how they fix all there issues
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] teksin:
Guys u will not believe me ! With my s7 edge i have this jello wavy effect ! But only if i turn my phone ! So its totally normal
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KamilKiri:
Tried and not working [MENTION=2698640]nadejo[/MENTION]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] casual_kikoo:
[MENTION=2698640]nadejo[/MENTION]

Doesn't seem to work.

Don't know what to think now..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
That's true. But Im not sure about the op3t as I don't own it anymore. If you have both devices can you arrange them horizontaly and open playstore and slowly scroll. And see if there is a bending on both?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] kimw:
Oh man.. Seems like I am going crazy as well. This somehow works! Which definitely isn't a good thing! I more and more come to believe that this is a hardware thing. Something with viewing angles indeed :(

How to find out which panel is used on mine?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] teksin:
Yes its work. I tried to turn my s7 edge and i have this effect lol!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rauttis:
I can't see the jello effect on either display (OP5 and 3) when they are horizontal. It's only visible with the OP5 vertically right side up or OP3 vertically upside down.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] teksin:
I have this ****ing effect when i turn the s7 edge too. So its a hardware problem becasue the screen is mounted in the wrong side.