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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
Good and bad news.

Good news, I sold my phone.

Bad news, I won't be able to do comparisons.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] saggiboy231:
How should i do that. The image i clicked, i attached it here.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
When you upload an image directly through the forum,

it gets compressed and downsampled to a lower resolution.

It is not possible to judge your picture this way.

You have to upload it to an image hoster or maybe Dropbox or Google Drive and post the link here.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] saggiboy231:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvL8gJg1MQdclFac3V5QTVUbEU/view?usp=drivesdk

Here is the link to the picture
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
Mine takes photos the same way. I don't understand how people can say that OP5 takes quality photos...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Looks exactly like many OP5 shots in not perfect lighting conditions I've seen so far

and is the reason why users are complaining in this thread.

Unfortunately most only seem to care that their flowers look colorful and sharp in perfect sunlight.

Some people want to defend what they have.

This is by no means better than what the OP3/T can produce, which is the whole reason users are complaining!

Even the OP2 produced watercolor paintings and should be a clear indicator that OnePlus is behind when it comes to Postprocessing.

That said, Raw probably produces better shots, but to expect users to shoot in raw for every picture would be silly.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] saggiboy231:
Exactly this is not what i saw in the reviews and in the one plus forums, this is like the pic my zenfone 2 used to shoot
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
This is exactly what I've seen in some reviews.

You have to be picky though and check for full resolution samples.

When you downsample images without looking at them in 100% crop, almost every phone will give you shots which might even be mistaken for

DSLR quality at first glance (when colors, contrast and white-balance are good).

At the end of the day, the only improvement over the OP3/T are tweaked colors/saturation/whitebalance/dynamic range, faster focus speed and the second lens.

The overall image quality is the same due to their still lacking postprocessing. Missing OIS can cause more blurry shots in lowlight due to handshake and a slow shutterspeed.

I bet OnePlus could further tweak the OP3/T processing to make it come close to what the OP5 produces in terms of color and whitebalance.

Of course they won't though.

Talking about the OnePlus forums.

It is littered with fanboys and although some of the photos there look good,

most of them are downsampled images which are not suitable for checking the image quality.

Also they praise their own camera with Instagram photos on social media...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] muhaziz97:
Hey guys, btw where can i get the op5's raw files? just want to do some experiments, maybe with lightroom or snapseed
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
You have to go to pro mode and enable the raw-toggle at the top.

The DNG files will be stored in DCIM/camera/ along with the jpegs.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] muhaziz97:
No, i mean a link (or source) to download it. I don't have the phone yet, afraid of being disappointed :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwXqylXTgITARFRvSHdnbk1QX28/view?usp=sharing

Portrait mode issue which I encountered today, zoom into the top and left petals of the flower and you can see a series of white dots on the focused area.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Portrait and zoomView attachment 4210669View attachment 4210671

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mammothjojo88:
Here are a couple I just did by point and shoot.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Hard working, blue jeans menView attachment 4211758

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dasti555:
Have same thing few pages back .. it's weird because i see this only in flowers
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
Few early pics with the optical zoom and portrait mode.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marra2:
Taken at 3am no flash and auto settings

Drax power station !
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nexus5-32GB:
OMG, this is sooo bad, bye bye OP5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Agree 100%!!! The lack of stability on 4k content is unacceptable!!

I sincerely hope it's being worked on in a future update!! It's works so well when recording at 1080p 30fps!!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
OIS is a hardware feature so no software update will fix it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
Agreed but Oneplus 5 is using EIS, which is a software solution vs OIS which is a hardware solution.

https://www.motionelements.com/blog/articles/eis-or-ois-your-guide-to-image-stabilization-systems
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] antonior93:
I can accept 4k, but the main problem is that EIS isn't available on 1080p@60fps neither.....
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Al3xxxinho:
Also, EIS is not as good as OIS when shooting still images.

Also 2, EIS is not as good as OIS when shooting in low light

I was waiting for OP to launch the OP5, but seeing the new iPhone 7 made me change my mind and stick with the 3T for a few months more.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
There seems to be quite a bit of jello effect on the EIS in 1080 also.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
To be fair I think that would be the right choice anyway. The 3T is a good device and I'm not sure the OP5 is a big enough change to warrant an upgrade.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
When do you get your phone? You swap phones just as much as I do and I've seen your photography posts on quite a few phones now - looking forward to it! :good:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
It only has 1.6x optical zoom also, not 2x as claimed by OP. Oh dear this is a big fail from OP. Why lie? They only get found out in the end. https://www.google.com/amp/phandroid.com/2017/06/22/oneplus-5-optical-zoom/amp/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
I am holding it now :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
can we expect better quality? I did some photos inside, and if I compare with my old s6, OP5 cold colors, noise, bad photos of peoples. Everything was on Auto, like s6
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
I'm disappointed by camera quality also. It's just not that great.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
Outside everything +- OK, but inside building..... interesting, one plus team will improve or they can't do nothing with this type of lens/hardware. Because, I think, stay with op5 or change to s7e, but I need good camera
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
I don't think it'll improve much. The 3T camera didn't improve at all.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
Without camera it's 350 EUR Chinese phone. if they will not fix camera fast, then we can say op5 is overpriced Chinese phone!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
Improvements are unlikely because this is the sensor who is at fault.

While others smartphones uses sensors with much bigger photosites, OP chooses a sensor which seems to be close to the one in the Galaxy Note 4 regarding specs. The larger aperture can certainly make it better than the Note 4 but it will never come close to actual flagships when lightning conditions are not optimal.

The second camera seems to me more like a gimmick. The aperture and sensors size are way to small IMO to be used outside of excellent lightning conditions.

I'm pretty sure that OP5 can produce very good photos in good light maybe even better than some competitors because his higher resolution will resolve more details if there is enough light.

But indoors or at night, the OP5 will certainly never be able to compete because both sensors have very small photosites (comparable to what we had 2 or 3 years back).
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vprasad1:
Sooo... marginal improvement from my Note 4?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
Was messing around on a flight last night with OOS camera and snapseed
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] k4get1:
How is this for no flash View attachment 4211983
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyDemon1:
photo was taken with auto mode :)

I just added some sharpness to it , and dam my boy is getting old :/

better res :http://imgur.com/a/4zGcl
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
I was at the beach yesterday, took some pictures I'm very happy with in manual mode. One was auto, the blue one was in pro with changed color temperature.

Used portrait mode a few times for people pictures, and the results were very good! They loved them!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
Nice photos. I particularly like the blue one. Looks like something out of a sci-fi movie with as simple a change as changing the colour temperature!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Right!?!?!? I feel like I'm waiting for a monster from Pacific Rim to attack! Or some water nymph or something like that. ??
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
terrible, a lot of noises , that main problem of OP5 camera

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where lights objects are blurry
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
To be honest,quite bad. Theres virtually no detail in the photo. Really shows the limitations of the camera.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] A Guy Called Revive:
Whats everyone best tips on getting steady shots? I seem to have blurry shots 99% of the time.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
Hold the camera really steady?

Jokes aside, you could try manual mode. Set a slightly higher ISO and a lower shutter speed? The shutter speed is what is causing the bluryness (other than software processing)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
I took these images today, and edited in Snapseed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Tried out the camera properly whilst out with my daughter this weekend and my god I wish I took my S8 instead, talk about a bunch of over processed photo's where everything looks a complete mess.

In bright day light the camera is pretty good but give it any form of shade and everything goes out the window.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Oas94pDkOV3SJW3i2
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
"Smooooth" picture you got there ;)

I wonder why they still did not fix their postprocessing since the OP3 :(

ISO and shutterspeed are not too bad in this situation, so I don't really see the need to go overboard with the postprocessing.

Did you maybe try manual mode or another camera app in this situation?

I once again noticed the same behavior on my OP3 outdoors this weekend.

Using google camera produced noticeably better results to a certain point when it is not too dark.

Later on the stock camera was better due to the superior noise reduction in lowlight.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
I thought I would give their stock camera app a chance but not anymore, I did manage some good shots with the HQ mode and pro mode was actually just as bad as auto HDR.

Took this one yesterday I bright day light.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MviSSszhdAkrXqXa2

Trying out cameringo+ at the moment and although the photo takes slightly longer to capture at high iso's its got way better processing than the stock camera app.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wisodev:
Took some pictures using Google Camera edited in Adobe Lightroom Mobile

http://i.imgur.com/sYAhm0r.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5Q41hjn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hVikZQC.jpg
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
I read the review of the Oppo R11 on gsmArena. I would like to know if the stock Oppo camera app could be modded to work for the oneplus 5. The low light pictures of the Oppo are really good compared to the Oneplus 5 IMO. Iso values are much smaller. Even if the second camera is a different model and in the opposite of the Oneplus the Oppo is able to shoot with less than 100 iso I would love to see such a mod.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Not only that, it actually delivers better softwarestitching for panoramas from what I see in the review.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
Pictures taken with the Oppo R11 are way better in low light.

Detail level is similar but there is a lot less noise. Certainly because the Oppo R11 use way lower ISO than the OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Definitely agree with that the low light shots look way better.

Looks like oneplus marketed the wrong phone they should of put clearer shots on the R11 instead of the OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
At least there is hope that with the current hardware the software can be optimized :laugh:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Tonight I am going to do some more test shots indoors in low light between.

Stock camera

Footej Pro

Cameringo+

Google Camera 4.4

Will be leaving them all on auto and will post the results tonight if i get time.

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Daylight test shots between Footej Pro and the stock camera app.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6bvemlq7UGWzH2Rz1

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Might throw in pictures on my S8 for comparison as well.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
In this order for both lots of shots in low light and very low light (nothing tweaked everything on auto)

Stock Camera

Cameringo+

Footej Pro

Google Camera

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8GSkNXWjxqjkbPMq1
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
white ceiling and white doors looks terrible, that main problem with OP camera.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Difference between the S8 and One plus in low light indoors.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/TgCyUmTEe7Pw2Ivv2
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] niftium:
So judging by the very low light photos, Footej & Google cameras are clear losers here. The first two are closer but it seems like maybe stock is slightly less noisy?

The comparison to the S8 was surprisingly close; the S8 blows out the blue light ring on the console and just makes a blue smudge out of it. While brighter, I think the OP5 gets more details right (at least in that lighting).

Helpful pics, thanks!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Well, IMO the oneplus 5 is better. :D

Galaxy picture is way brighter but with more noise.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
I reckon if they can i.e OnePlus can crack the processing so it's not so well crap and to see if they can lower the iso but keep the detail in low light shots then I think it would be an ok camera.

At lower iso's the S8 lets in way more light and in bright sunlight there is not much between them both (well when the post processing of the OP5 is not going bat **** crazy and performing all kinds of watercolour effects to the background)

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I am hoping that OP reach a middle ground i.e they sort out the iso so it does not need to crank it up to crazy high levels and they use better post processing to fix HDR so pictures appear cleaner and brighter in low light.

They will never reach the same level as the S8 but I cannot see any reason why they cannot get the most out of it in all situations.

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OnePlus 5 pro mode vs auto HDR mode in very low light.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Af8of4phzgDDimcJ2
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Pictures attached (originals see previous post)

Pro mode was with 3200 iso and a 4 second shutter and a very steady hand.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] saggiboy231:
i am not satisfied with the camera. here are some shots. Can you please tell whether should i go for a replacement. i have only 3 days left.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvL8gJg1MQdYU9wOUF5UkdxdUE/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvL8gJg1MQddU1uVHctYWVIbTg/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvL8gJg1MQdRlZYb1RxcGJXYXc/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvL8gJg1MQdODU5RUhyRzlOck0/view?usp=drivesdk
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lasersdude:
Stop fanboying.. You cant seriously say the op is less noisy.. Or maybe u just dont know what noise is. Just look at the wall behind the flowers. The s8 is more than two leagues above the op here. The op has like double or triple the amount of noise.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] s3axel:
I'd rather say that S8 is better in smoothing it out. Easy on a flat wall without structures, not so easy on objects like flowers and other fine-detailed structures.

Yes, the S8 has larger fotosites and therefore more sensivity to light - which shows in the pictures and leads to less noise. But the difference isn't that large as is often suggested.

From my own tests in low light between S8 and OP5 I had more problems due to the misssing OIS on the OP5 than from higher noise of the camera. When/if OP will/would get their camera software right (including those awful water-painting effects in daylight) its in my opinion a camera very close to on par with the S8.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] xyourxhighnessx:
Here's one from Saturday
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] brandaopj:
for who own galaxy s8 and OP5 whats the more pleasure to use and get better pics from kids that are always moving!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
S8 for sure.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] brandaopj:
Even with the lack of portrait mode?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] observingi:
I am trying my hands on pro mode. In view finder, when I tap anywhere on the view, I get two concentric circles. I can drag and split them into focal and exposure circles.

What is the use of that feature? When am I supposed to use it?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
Portrait mode is used for just that... Portrait on a moving target isn't optimal.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
I always thought this is self explanatory but:

Usually, if you want to focus on a specific object, you use tap-to-focus.

This unfortunately causes the camera app to change exposure.

Depending on the lighting and contrast of the scene you might end up with heavily over/underexposed areas.

It is much quicker to change exposure in Pro Mode with the circle than to swipe up/down in auto-mode.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Yup will take picture quality over that any day.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
now try to take a moving object, like kid........... you will see, mission impossible. I play a lot with OP5, but inside you can't do normal photos. Software optimization will not fix this, this hardware (sensor) problem.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
I have managed to get some really good shots out of this camera even with my daughter going crazy so it is possible.

However the post processing really let's it down
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
1 of 100, or 1 of 1000 :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
First time believe it or not lol
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
I tried recording video using 3rd party camera apps (open camera, proshot, snap camera hdr) but they all have choppy framerate, video recorded using oneplus camera apps are fine.

Can someone please test it out?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gawa77:
Not so bad ...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Yeah they all suck tried a few of them and none of them are as good as the stock camera
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
Yeah, OnePlus really screwed their camera API this time, none of the 3rd party camera apps works properly with oneplus 5.

You can see the issue in this video if you look closely (moving vehicles are jerky)

https://youtu.be/pOoAj8qrlvU
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hsareminia:
hi

I am on oxygen 4.5.6 . camera is the bad.

i think op3 camera better than op5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DvLAx3l:
Marechiaro, Posillipo, Napoli, Italy

OnePlus 5 OOS 4.5.5, stock camera app, auto mode
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
Here be one.

Edit: for some reason it uploaded the one I submitted to EyeEm as well. Oh well.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
View attachment 4220614 camera is decent, unless you zoom in, in which case is terrible.

OIS missing is absolutely horrible.

This will never be fixed as it's a hardware limitation. Absolute shame.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
The grain on that pic is unacceptable,nice dog though :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Im_Mattgame:
Check out this pic I took using the portrait mode!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
Some pics I took recently. Camera is good but not without it's limitations. I still can't complain though.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rohit02:
she is so cute, and lovely pics.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
My preferred method to take a picture in low light has become to place the phone on the ground to avoid any kind of shaking :D

So longer shutter speeds are possible :cool:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] yaninowe:
these pictures tell me that sensor isn't that bad, it's the PP that screws tings up:

http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_r11-review-1631p8.php#image53

R11 uses identical sensor to OP5 (Sony 398 and f1.7 - no stabilisation at all on R11)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
No offense, but some of these pictures look really bad in their own way if you actually check them in full resolution:

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/oppo-r11/camera/gsmarena_051.jpg

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/oppo-r11/camera/gsmarena_061.jpg

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/oppo-r11/camera/gsmarena_053.jpg

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/oppo-r11/camera/gsmarena_063.jpg

I don't expect other phones to give much better results in this situation to be honest.

This one looks nice, but it was taken with ISO100 and 16s shutterspeed which is only possible with a tripod:

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/oppo-r11/camera/gsmarena_071.jpg
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] yaninowe:
No offense taken! I am just saying that they do seem a bit better than from OP5.

Shame nonetheless that OP did not use the same sensor that TCL have access to which is also in pixel. There would be no dual camera though (just a guess).

We will see what happens over the course of the next 3 months - whether OP will be able to improve on quality.

Btw, have you seen pictures from P9?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
OP5 vs Honor 9 vs P10

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
That is extremely zoomed in, however I completely agree, it is one of my major gripes, on my previous phone I was able to get some stunning shots using a zoomed in perspective forcing depth of field on certain objects ie: my dog [emoji1]

OIS been absent is a huge problem when you take these shots..if they could somehow do what no other company has done and somehow come close to OIS with their EIS then I'd be astounded, however I don't think that's on the cards..

Shame really.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
Pme ftw
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
According to this video at 3:14 the portrait mode seems to work, even when covering the second lens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAexsh0j38Q&feature=youtu.be&t=3m14s

Could somebody with a OP5 check if this is really the case?!