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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
Actually today in GeekBench a OnePlus 5 with Android Oreo 8.0 popped up.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
It's an app available in the Play Store that normally works on other phones the way other dialer apps available in the Play Store work. If it was a Nexus/Pixel specific app you wouldn't be able to download it from the Play Store.

The fact that OOS isn't anything close to stock Android should be obvious --why else do you think we are still on the July security patch when it's almost October?

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What exactly does that mean? Is it an official version of Oreo OOS for the OP5 or something a dev custom modded? I haven't read anything official about Oreo on the OP5 even in beta stage--just on the OP3. There could be a closed beta but I guess testers aren't supposed to talk about that.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Johnny_B:
Please, do tell where you found Google Dialer in the the Play Store. I cannot seem to find it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
You can't on device without the required framework.

OP isn't one of them.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Johnny_B:
My thoughts exactly.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jowhee:
Not necessarily in the play store, but it is possible to get it working on the OP5. You'll need to be rooted, and or have TWRP installed.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/themes/magisk-oneplus-5-google-dialer-contacts-t3640993
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] almostthere:
Orly? Do a fact check first before assuming
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Javi22:
You mean drain when connected to a wifi network only or also with wifi enabled but not connected?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Feedmeeeee:
Didnt test both but its draining while connected
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
I didn't assume anything. When I purchased this phone Google Dialer showed up as an available app. It is compatible with most Android phones and typically the only feature that doesn't work on non-Google phones is the visual voicemail. Since the app is not compatible with this phone specifically because of changes OnePlus made to stock Android code it no longer shows up as an available app. The framework for stock Google apps isn't something you add to stock Android because it's already there to begin with --it's something OnePlus chose to remove because they want you to use their inferior apps instead of the stock Google ones.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
It isn't compatible with most phones...

Only phones that come with this app preinstalled.

But all other Google apps works.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] almostthere:
It was never available for non Pixel devices since day 1 via official channels and side loading it would not work properly (I know cos I tried to during the first week of using my OP5 and I've had it since July 2017) as features such as spam caller, nearby locations of interest was not properly working and incoming call notification wasn't tappable (it's a security issue regarding overlays)

Even on my OP2, was only possible to work on LineageOS once provisions were done by the ROM Dev and that was if you flashed the Pixel experience package
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Johnny_B:
I did found a flashable zip file just for us Oneplus users, which installs Google Dialer and contacts, and it works! So it is possible, but not in any regular way.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
Like a month ago I decided to turn off the option of the WiFi to stay ON when my phone is locked because a lot of people were saying that there is Wi-Fi drain and I did not test it but just trusted the forum. Like a week ago I changed the WiFi setting to be Always ON and still could not realize if there is a drain on my phone or not. Usually when I am about to fall asleep I turn off pretty much everything on my phone but last night I wanted to see if there is a drain or not. My phone had exactly 40% battery. Left the Wifi ON, cleared the recent apps list and I fell asleep. 8 hours later, I saw few notifications and... 17% battery left. This is funny. There is a big-ass drain on the latest 4.5.10 Build. I hope it is going to be fixed. My previous phones did not have such a drain. For example, I was using Xiaomi Mi5 Prime - with everything turned off - 0% loss of battery overnight and 1% to 2% loss of battery overnight with Wi-fi ON (the wifi was set to be On even after the screen was off). I also have Huawei Honor 8 but it is not my daily driver. Huawei has super heavy skin on top of android 7.0 (yeah, it is not even 7.1.1) and without any powersaving options the phone doesn't have any issues with battery drain on 4G or Wifi. 0% to 1% battery loss overnight without any internet connection and 1% to 3% battery loss with 4G or Wifi ON (depends on how many notifications I had during the night). But never more than 3% per 8-9 hours.

And I am sure that I am not the only one with such an issue. I do not even have so many social apps or any apps at all. I have 50 apps on my phone, 5 of them are social apps and 7 of them are the google apps. Pretty much stock phone.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Long story short; you're not alone. Everyone is looking forward to those awesome idle drains which we witnessed on our previous devices.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] almostthere:
For rooted users right? It's also posted as a magisk module mod
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lekiaM:
Personally i think there is something wrong with the OP5 modem hardware about the "WiFi Drain issues" i can't get the drain issue out of my head. Is it just a placebo thought or is there something strange going on with the hardware? (I'm referring also to the screen placement "upside down" manufactured.)

I'm not saying that I'm not "happy" with the OP5, but i have my questions. And yes, I've read aLOT.

Guess I'm just another fish in the sea swimming up and down.:cool:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Johnny_B:
Yes for rooted users, don't know if it's works as magisk module. But works fine when flashed in TWRP :good:

Edit: well, just checked and it shows up in Magisk as module, so guess it's a module indeed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
If you got TWRP it's just a matter of flashing the relevant framework

https://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4207025&d=1499654149
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nick James:
I miss my OPO. I had such high expectations for this device which was why I upgraded. I'm left wanting to go back to an iPhone, it's that bad. And I haven't been on an iOS device since the iPhone 4.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
Then?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
You may be right. I used the Google Dialer on a Samsung and HTC phone but my last two phones before the OP5 were Google phones so that was a while ago. It's possible the Google Dialer showed up for me when I got the OP5 because of that. It now is listed in my cloud apps in the Play Store as being incompatible with this device.

The Google Dialer is much more powerful than the OP5 version. Most custom ROMs for the OP5 use the Google Dialer. Even the OOS based ROMs I tried either used the Google Dialer by default or gave you the option to use the Google Dialer.

I personally think the OP5 would be a much better phone if it ran pure Android instead of OOS but that's a new option for non-Google phones. I don't know if any phones like that are even sold in the US yet.

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If you've had the OP5 too long to get a refund it probably still has good resale value. You could always sell it and buy an Oppo.

I thought Oppo made OnePlus phones. How was your Oppo phone better?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ipredatorv:
He probably means Oneplus One...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
OnePlus One..

Edit: ↑ beat me to it
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nick James:
I'm just over hear dragging my feet!

My wife is going to order the new iPhone 8 Plus-- I'll take her old iPhone 6S for a test drive and maybe I'll remember why I hate Apple and iOS so much!

My apologies, I should have been more clear. I miss my OnePlus One (OPO). Really the phone is still solid and can run all the latest Android apps and OS. I thought I was due a new "latest & greatest" upgrade with high hopes of the camera on the OP5 but its been a very big let down.

I guess to be fair, I bought the OPO after it was out for a year and its only been about 90 days since release... perhaps there is more in store, over the course of the next 9 months :confused:

/rant :good:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
Sorry I misunderstood but how was your One Plus One better? Or are you disappointed that this phone isn't a more obvious upgrade?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
Last night I decided to make another test with the battery drain. This time instead of leaving my phone with Wi-Fi ON, I left it with 4G Mobile Data ON. Absolutely stock, no root, no Naptime or Greenify, cleaned the recent apps list before I fell asleep. The phone had 50%. 9 hours later, when I woke up - 47% battery.

It is funny because when I made the same test but with Wi-Fi, I lost 24% for 8 hours. And if I have to calculate the drain per hour so I can make a comparison, it is going to be like that:

Wi-Fi drain - 24% for 8 hours which is 3% per hour.

4G Mobile Data drain - 3% for 9 hours which is 1% per 3 hours.

Correct me if I am wrong but the Wi-Fi drain is 9 times bigger than the 4G Mobile Data drain. And this is funny because everybody knows the Wi-Fi is using less power than the mobile data.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Glad you got the cheeseburger. I've used your theme on the Two. Any plans to get one done for the five :fingers-crossed:

Thank you for your support :highfive:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Any news on an update you still testing?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
[emoji850]

Sent from Funk Tuned Cheeseburger
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Arggh?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maurydes:
Hey sorry for late reply i remember you and also other guys around in op2 times ,yes obviously my op5 running my personal black theme..... I did not open a thread just because I have little time to devote to theming and I would like to wait for Oreo to see the changes that it brings.

Some screens

As usual full apk on my flashable theme zip

Sorry for the off topic and thanks for the great work in this thread[emoji4] [emoji106]

Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5000 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Many thanks buddy for your support. The theme looks good as usual. I look forward to the release. Keep up the good work and thank you for returning back to Oneplus devices [emoji2]

Sent from Funk Tuned Cheeseburger
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marko94:
How to debloat ROM after flash,easiest way? If I don't want use other ROMs based on OOS? Thanks
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] 3DSammy:
Assuming your rooted and have TWRP installed there is a AROMA (interactive) debloater which safely allows you to select which OOS stock apps to remove then removes them. Just check the link anhd read the first post.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marko94:
Wow, awesome..thank you a lot..How I didn't saw this:D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pro4TLZZ:
When I reboot my phone the phone dialler resets the contacts display to all
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
There isn't much to debloat IMO...

Just wish OP would switch to Google's apps (phone, contacts, messaging, calculator, clock)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] captainphoenixx:
If they did this, people would definitely be more satisfied with this phone. That and when they get the camera app all worked out. Here's hoping
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Urbanrootz:
Anyone know when 4.5.11 is coming out. This is usually the time updates would come out....
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ulxerker:
Says who?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Can only guess but l don't think there will be 4.5.11 l think there delaying things for O but who knows. Especially with stupid surveys for the alert slider
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nick James:
No worries but yeah, I really expected a better device coming from the OnePlus One, specifically the camera.

It is what it is... I'll just have to be patient! iOS is *not* going to work out as much as I think it will haha
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmundo:
You had something running in the background during the wifi always on test. The wifi always on drain is not so much big. It is around 6-8% instead 2-3% per night 6-9hours. That's good to have BBS to check the stats as well.

In my opinion the Wifi switched off during sleep doesn't eat so much mobile data to be worried and when you turn on the phone the log on to wifi network is nearly instant. So exclude the situation when larger files are downloaded and you need to have wifi on in terms of saving mobile data/time, the option to turn off wifi during sleep is sufficient.

How is reflect this in real life is more important, so you can calculate how often you charge the phone- and how this bother you, and how is used.

In my case, I save on wifi drain around 20-30% in full charge circle that can be 3hours on screen time, that is noticeable.

My another thought is, this problem could not be solved by OPteam.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
I did not have anything running in background. I remember in the morning when I saw that the phone lost 23% I checked the battery stats , the most energy was used by the screen (10%) which is normal but the wifi was the second thing with 8% consumed energy. Everybody is complaining from the wifi drain. It is not only me. It has to be fixed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Urbanrootz:
Says the normal schedule monthly updates...they just updatesd the H2O ROM w/ September security patches so OOS should be next

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Cheers! Not sure what’s that about with this alert slider business....they just need to reorient the options slide down to silent and up to enable sound....done! The camera app still needs work IMO, it’s good but keep be better in comparison to other smart phones....but we shall see...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjuniork:
"Everybody" is a strong statement regarding above mentioned Wi-Fi drain. I did and do not experience any kind of Wi-Fi drain at all. An android environment can be quite a hassle at times, so there are many options and possibilities in terms of culprits arising.

But be assured, that indeed not anyone should experience such an enormous battery drain, coming from an usually not battery consuming hardware piece. This all quite confusing. Soon we will see how OP is going to handle those reported issues.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Hmm not very well so far?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
There are things you can do to improve it a bit like root and run a custom kernel and some people use the ported Pixel camera instead of the stock one. But it's hard not to think of the OP5 as a placeholder device until next year since they put virtually no effort into making this phone a serious upgrade from the 3T. Plus there's no positive spin to put on the fact that the OP3 phones are receiving more frequent updates than this phone and will also receive Android Oreo before this phone does.

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Nougat didn't come to OP3 devices until the last day of the year so I really hope you're wrong. But they seem to be way more interested in adding OP5 features to the OP3 than in fixing the problems with this phone or giving us even a security update. I'm honestly feeling like buying the OP5 was a mistake and that the company doesn't care at all about this phone or the customers who purchased it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Yep l feel the same, the phone l like the way oneplus like to bs l don't .There are custom roms with oreo already the one l am using is stable and everything works just a few small details to address would of thought it would be out by the end of next week as a stable/beta.

I see it not as a place holder with 8gb 835 pro 128 storage. More as a device waiting for a rom to equal its hardware. I doubt it will be an OOS based rom though the way oneplus like to sweep stuff under the carpet.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
The OP3T had 128 storage and 6gb. The only genuine upgrade from the 3T is the processor which OnePlus had no hand in designing. The extra 2gb of ram is a gimmick because no smartphone actually needs more than 6gb of ram and the new camera setup is a gimmick because the camera app takes lousy pictures anyway. The OP5 uses literally the exact same displays as the OP3 and has a smaller battery than the OP3. They didn't even spend any time designing the new camera setup that's used on the OP5--it's lifted directly from a Chinese Oppo phone from the same parent company --although the Oppo phone supposedly takes better pictures. The OP5 has a slimmer body than the OP3 but that turned out to be a mistake --if the OP5 wasn't slimmer it wouldn't have been necessary to install the OP3 displays upside down on this phone and there would be no jelly effect. The fact that the OP5 is still on the July security patch just adds to the feeling that this phone was rushed and is barely being supported by its manufacturer who seems to be a lot more concerned about the OP3 and their next phone rather than what is supposed to be their current flagship.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
Why did you choose to buy without being sure of what you were going to get for your money? My OP5 is just the exact phone I needed...and so many people are satisfied with it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
And what is your point in telling us all this story. You pinpoint only what u want us to hear what type of ram is used what type of storage is used. Camera whise it is a new concept let them workout the issues the phone is three months old.The whole upside down display is a 99 pages debate on it own lol.

Some have yelly issues and some do not (this was a interesting discussion).

Having this said the phone does not get its mostly good reviews if it was a piece of junk. And when op releases a update every body is happy again and all is forgotten. If all of this was true they would already stopped the whole op5 adventure because quite frankly it would not be financially saint.

Op3 ain't going to make money it costs them money with every update they only get a lot of thank you but this does not pay the bills. The whole reason probably is that the op3 was on the beta program this means oneplus has to release its beta as a stable version sometime. Also having a relatively small development team means it doesn't speed up things and they have to make priority's.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Lol... "needed" ram is unique to the person using the device. It's the exact same argument as saying "a computer doesn't need more than 8GB of RAM." For who? A high school student? A college student? If you enjoy having lots of games and apps open, 8GB of ram is great. If you just send emails, then you can get by with 3.

Don't come over here passing off your opinion as universal doctrine.. Some people use the 8gb, others don't, and that's perfectly fine.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nick James:
I've ran the custom kernels and I've tried a few ROMs. I really like Oxygen and I think its been polished well but fix the damn camera. Don't get me wrong, there are battery drain issues but really, a lot of ROMs have this issue (as far as I can tell). If you don't want the battery drain issues and can't work around it, go buy an iPhone, ha! Or maybe I haven't experienced the battery drain issues.

I bought the phone for the camera. The camera has not lived up to what it was hyped up to be. And I'll look into the Pixel camera but I have a feeling stock Oxygen will have to do.

If its common knowledge (and I honestly don't know or care really) that the 3T will get the "updates" before OP5, that is also a shame. Fix the camera that you over sold, is all I'm saying. I could careless about Oreo right now. Fix the camera, please and thank you. They bragged about the hardware, now fix the software that controls it!

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Or just a regular OnePlus One, shoot.

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@jhs39 - is this the Pixel port that you are talking about?

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Naprzod:
The op5 may have lower battery capacity but I got 5hs of sot with op3t and with op5 I get 7-8h with the same usage, thanks to the snapdragon 835. So, yeah, I would call it an upgrade.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hetshah147:
Idk whats ur point but i m so much happy using this device.. Its my 4th day of using op5 and i m completely in love.. I was using redmi note 3 previously and it had great development support and i m hoping that this device will get good devs too as its oneplus device :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
Please can l use more than 6gb of ram is it OK?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
I don't see why not. That's why there's an 8GB version. They know people like you may neeed more than 6 GB of ram.;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bugra333:
We wait new update or open beta ROM :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
I am waiting on either one.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dajumper:
Forget updates this is oneplus ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tibcsi0407:
Sad, but true.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Naprzod:
A person who needs more than 6gb of ram in a phone probably would know he can use more than 6gb if he has more than the 6gb..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
A person who understands how RAM actually works knows that a computer or smart phone will try to fill up whatever RAM is available by keeping programs and data in memory longer which isn't the same thing as actually needing the RAM. Tests have been done comparing the 6GB and 8GB versions of this phone and the difference in performance between the two was negligible to nonexistent because the extra RAM doesn't actually do anything useful or necessary.

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When I purchased this phone I thought OnePlus actually planned to support it. I didn't think I would still be on the July security patch in October or that I would be reading about regular updates to the OP3 while my OP5 received no updates or that the public beta for Oreo would be on the OP3 rather than the OP5. My issue isn't primarily with the phone itself but with the fact that the OP5 is receiving terrible support. I feel like I have been fleeced and that the company that made the OP5 has already pretty much abandoned it.

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My point is that this phone was rushed to market and that might be the reason the manufacturer seems much more interested in supporting the OP3 than the OP5. The OP3 has been receiving regular updates. The OP5 hasn't had an official update since August and is still on the July security patch. The public beta for Oreo is on the OP3 not the OP5. I don't think the company that made this phone is treating it like it's actually their current flagship device.