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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] davfiala:
They simply expected DSLR(or SGS8 at least) camera quality, 4K zero-bezel display, IP68, Iris scanner, ... phone for 1+1 price. And now they got 500€ phone which isn't better than 900€ ones.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mania626:
Exactly!!!!!!!!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
Honestly ? I was just hoping that it will be at least on par with my actual phone from 2015 but clearly it's not the case. Low light shots in this topic are poor IMO (colors are good but that's all)

And that's sad because that leave me with only one choice : keeping my 6P until the Pixel 2 comes. And it will cost me a lot more which is not something that make me happy. But I will not go for a phone that's not at least as good as my actual phone in all big features.

And in fact, I'm disappointed also because OP makes the camera their main marketing argument for the OP5 teasing it long before the announcement with their partnership with dxo.

I think I will order one to test it but it's unlikely that I keep it in the end.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mania626:
Again ,most of the pics I've seen in low light look great to me ,I'm not an expert photographer but maybe that's a Good thing, if I was I'll be using a "profesional" cámara to take the shots I really want.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
I guess everyone has its own standards so it's fine if the OP5 look good to you.

But, for sure my 6P takes way better picture in low light with a lot less noise and finer details across the whole picture.

The S7E of my girlfriend is better too.

I miss so much good shots over the years because I don't have my DSLR with me all the time. In fact, the 6P sensor was the first to suit me. It let me take good shots in almost all conditions and that's why I will not buy a device that's not at least as good. I don't necessarily want a better one but just a phone that's as good and adaptable as my 6P.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mania626:
Do you have your op5 already?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
Nope, I judge actually only by what I have seen here, on Reddit, in the 1+ forums and in reviews (and trust me, I have seen a lot of pictures taken with the OP5 because I was hoping to buy it to replace my 6P. I think I will still buy it because it's cheap but not sure to keep it).

But pictures will not become good because I buy it lol.

The flaws that I see in pictures are clearly normal for a sensor of this size and with as much pixels. I was getting the exact same kind of problems back when I had a Note 4 : very good performance in good light but high noise and lack of details in low light. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the Note 4 has even more noise than that. So the OP5 is not that bad for a sensor of this type.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
I think people expected better than the OP3 especially when OP have mad such a big deal about the camera. Realistically what we've got is a camera only slightly better and it still has poor low light shots. Nevermind that but OP have lied about it being 2x zoom when it's not.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mania626:
So there you go, I suggest buy the phone and judge for yourself, you seem to have some picture knowledge, and if you don't like it you can always returned, I never buy anything going by what people said , and besides is not like this is the worst camera ever, I'm waiting for mine ,I'm a first time one plus buyer so if I'm not happy with what I see I'll send it back in a second, but everything points to a keeper so far:)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] seatibiza:
The camera is not so impressive, my Moto X Style do better pictures. I hope there is a way to make it little better with fw update
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ry2mkk:
It's nothing special but then again, its only really needed for those point and shoot moments....or simply having some fun with the different modes ( Slow motion, 1080 @ 60 fps ect....)

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
Today I compared photos taken with 3T and 5. OnePlus 5 shots colors are better, but 3T has way more details.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
I am soooo glad I did not buy the OP5 on impulse. I guess my OP3 will be by my side for another year.

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=7995&idPhone3=8345

Check this studio comparison.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
I'm satisfied with this camera. I feel like it is much more versatile than any other camera I've used, and the quality is more than sufficient.

iSheep have even gotten a little jealous..

Edit: None of these pics have been edited
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mystique47:
why it only uses 16mp camera? in every mode it never uses 20mp camera, even with 2x
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
As they should be. The camera, including the zoom lens, is better on the OP5.

Either you're blind or spreading FUD. The OP5 CLEARLY has more detail than the 3T, and rivals the Pixel. The only issue is that the OP5 has a bit of a "watercolor" effect... but that's only noticeable if you pixel peep. Overall, photos are very good.

It does, but only in bright lighting. The best way to tell is checking EXIF data for the aperture... if it says f/2.6, obviously it used the 2X lens.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] HARRY4499:
It depends on the light condition. You can try to cover the second camera with a finger and try to swipe the zoom slide. After 1.6x, with good light condition, the second camera will work (covered with your finger). Then it will change to the main camera. If you remove the covered finger, after a while, the second camera will work again.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Images on this camera are blurred to me even if you keep the phone dead still, have to focus manually seems to help a little bit still doesn't seem to be sharp after taking the shot, I've tried Google camera app and the images are sharper and clearer, so the op5 app after taking the shot os doing some **** overprocessing and making your shot more blurred.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] @Peterrrrr:
Have anyone tried this? The camera seems to be allt vetter.

https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/06/24/oneplus-5-how-to-take-better-quality-photos-in-one-easy-step/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
I tried Google camera app..... but I don't see difference
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] KHEMS91:
Can anyone share some camera sample in original size.

It would be better if samples are packed in zip file.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Not at all. First off, I have set the OP3 for comparison and linked the comparison this way, not the OP3T.

Yes I know they both share the same camera hardware, so after comparing both the 3 and 3T I'm shocked about all that noise in the 3T shot.

It would be good to know which OOS Version has been used on these comparison shots.

That said, the OP5 shows more noise in all circumstances in that comparison. So I should rather ask you who is blind here.

Yes, some textures are indeed slightly more detailed, but they also show noise in lowlight.

This could be fixed with an update and more postprocessing, which would mean "bye bye details" though...

The Pixel falls in between, more noise than the OP3, less than the OP5. But it's advantage is the bigger lens, so it can keep the shutter-speed faster in all situations.

Now also keep in mind that these are static shots (cameras are fixed!) and that the OP5, same as the OP3, goes as slow and even slower as 1/17s in shutter-speed.

This WILL result in more shaky pics on the OP5 due to the missing OIS.

A slow shutter-speed also causes the viewfinder to lag heavily and reduces focus-speed.

In the end we have the same bad lowlight experience we already had on the OP3/T, only that some photos might come out a little bit brighter

OnePlus calls this "Dual Camera.Clearer Photos"?!

tl;dr: Ditching OIS and maintaining the same sensor size was a bad idea and instead of including another sensor,

their first and foremost priority should have been the main sensor, then adding gimmicks.

After all, this was a studio environment, not real wold.

Now check this small comparison and tell me it is an substantial upgrade:

http://imgur.com/a/u6uvV

Taken from Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6j0dhz/oneplus_3t_vs_oneplus_5_camera_comparison/

Yes, the bar scene is not fully focused/blurred on the OP3T, but same goes for the house on the OP5, which is an even simpler scene.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
Try to update to latest 4.5.2 and repeat inside photo. For me last update looks like do better photos inside
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] madnav:
I am disappointed by the phone's camera performance.

Following are camera comparison pics with S6.

OP5 can't even beat 2015 flagship in low light; so much for focusing on the right things!!

Original images have been uploaded to drive for your convenience.

Google Drive - OnePlus 5 vs Samsung S6 low light

Price increase totally went to paying off celebrities and reviewers this time.

EDIT:

All images are taken with OxygenOS 4.5.2 installed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
I don't care what anyone says I have tested the camera properly in many situations and it's has some truly epic results and same fails. The fails can be addressed via software hopefully. I am preparing my camera article to demonstrate this.

Update - Camera review is live - so is this a flagship or sunken ship ?

https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/06/26/oneplus-5-camera-review-flagship-or-sunken-ship/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
I don't care what anyone says I have tested the camera properly in many situations and it's has some truly epic results and same fails. The fails can be addressed via software hopefully. I am preparing my camera article to demonstrate this.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Good review, thanks Gavin.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
Thank you ?

This is the direct link to my camera review using all modes and testing motion https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/06/26/oneplus-5-camera-review-flagship-or-sunken-ship/

I will add I had to re do my review as firmware 4.5.1 to 4.5.2 made enough differences to retake the shots. That means all the early reviews could have been slightly better.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Here is an album comparing the OP5 to the U11. Surprising how strong the OP5 did here considering the U11 is the highest rated camera via DxO currently:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=STAwdDlCcmlRdTVjY3huYnRnRlNTN2tpOWEzdFpB
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sand_man:
So confirmation that Oneplus is working on EIS on 4k....

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...us_5_edition/djf4lu4/?st=j4ef5uai&sh=0a2f0c40
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
I returned OP5, I'm s6 user, so I agree with you 100%
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] byAidan:
Try again with HQ enabled on OP5 ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
You are right. With HQ the photos look way better.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziphnor:
Hmm, bought the OnePlus 5 to upgrade to get a faster phone with a better camera than my LG G4. Its starting to look like that was a poor trade. I took photos in indoor evening/artificial light, and first found that the LG G4 can take photos at ISO 50, while the OP5's lowest setting is ISO 100. I there took photos in pro/manual mode on both at 1/4 ISO 100, and it is scary just how much darker the OP5 photo is. And that is compared to a 2 year old phone :( Loving the OP5 apart from the camera, which is ironic as they are pushing the camera improvements so hard.

I will try to post a piece of each photo tomorrow.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] crowsnestitsupport:
Don't understand the cameras hate here.. I have the Pixel XL and GS8+ and I feel the camera, at least so far is on par with both easily.. For your viewing pleasure :) https://goo.gl/photos/VmuQgMi6Xrcw661K9 Its just so fast, double tap that power button and shot away.. 99% of the photos come out gorgeous.. IMHO..

Not to mention it cost me 300 less than the phones I'm comparing it to...:)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] A.Priori:
proper comparison between OP 3 camera and OP 5 camera

Had a chance to do a proper comparison between the oneplus 3 and oneplus 5 in good lighting. There's two standard shots and one 'macro' shot. Settings are default; no pro or manual modes just automatic modes.

OP3:

1:

2:

3:

4:

OP5:

1:

2:

3:

4:

bonus: bokeh, depth of field effect from op5

[IMG="http://i.imgur.com/WZJ6THU.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/WZJ6THU.jpg[/IMG]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] onlinejobwork:
The biggest proof that camera is not that great is mouthshut by DxO mark, Camera quality of Oneolus 5 is such poor so DxO mark can't even comment or mention how bad it is and disappoint Oneplus, if they reveal truth the sale of Oneplus 5 go down by 50%, it's nasty marketing tricks, mass hysteria & hype created by Oneplus to cover poorly design camera that DxO mark don't bothered to say single word, no OIS and small pixel size and poorly design processing image processing algorithms leads to bad camera, Can't beat my last year's S7 in photography department.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mele80:
It's only 1,6x optical zoom ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] madnav:
View attachment 4194469

I went ahead and took all 3 modes for sample.

The same is attached for reference.

HQ mode should technically offer better Image Quality if you are using a tripod. It tries to lower ISO (which lowers noise) and in that attempt it makes shutter speed slower/longer. As you can see, in this scenario it is trying to push 1/10s shutter, which is almost disastrous without tripod on a camera/lens that doesn't feature OIS (even with OIS most people will end up getting shaky images).

Are you using these phone cameras in low light? That is where everyone hates OP5 camera. It does fine in daylight though.

EDIT:

Attachments on xda are compressed images. Full size and uncompressed images can be found here:

Google Drive - OnePlus 5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Vs u11

https://goo.gl/photos/26DJ5JuV42p6RuYx6
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranaxda200:
Op camera has focusing issue, lense got less light and sometimes pics got worse on low light. Seems op released the device in haste without testing thoroughly before marketing it 'clear camera' lol.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
Just look at that sofa in the first images. That's the main complaint I have about OP5 - details are all smudged in the photos.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
Just for simplicity sake, I extracted some details from the link above. I let you guess where the O+5 shots are. :eek:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] slakosd:
Really bad results :eek:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JohnnyPhate:
This morning. Sun on the left and the right side of the building was pretty dark. View attachment 4194640
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranaxda200:
Guys who has op5, any different on pics quality after updating to the latest OOS 4.5.3?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] CupiD101:
oneplus claims that it's `lossless` zoom. I am guessing, haveing higher megapixels than the primary camera compensates for 0.5x magnification. thus capturing same details as in the primary cam. it's just my theory :D.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Great find but it looks like the HTC 11 has auto HDR off? Without Pixel peeping I often prefer the pics out of the op5 when looking at them from my phone. U imagine that's how op wants it ?

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
I agree that zoomed out pictures look good on OP5 but what's the point in so many megapixels if details are almost nonexistent...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
4.5.2 u mean? I did the test on the latest OOS 4.5.2
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranaxda200:
No typo. OP released 4.5.3 today.

---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

No typo. OP has released 4.5.3 today.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Whoa yes in fact just got the update. Thanks for the heads up. Will test out accordingly
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] haitower:
I've been waiting almost a year to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to a new OP phone since I wasn't pleased with the OP3(T)'s camera performance which I wanted to get initially. I'm usually awake when the rest of the world is asleep and thus, most of my pictures are taken in low light. Unfortunately, the OP3(T) didn't look too good when it came to these kind of shots.

I was so eager for the new device and especially when they announced their focus on the camera system. After reading all the comparisons of camera setups of the flagship phones there seem to be three main findings:

1. Plenty daylight will lead to good pictures

2. Low light will lead to bad pictures due to high ISO due to lack of OIS. Making pictures of people in darker environments will give you blurred people if they just won't hold perfectly still

3. Hit or miss. Sometimes pictures just look bad even though conditions are good

I never wanted to spend much money on a phone but I adore the snappyness of the OP5, dash charging, fast fingerprint sensor and the freedom to root and unlock. I would have paid the 560€ for the 128GB version. But the S8's price fell incredibly fast and is now only 40€ more expensive here in Germany.

Guess I'm gonna lurk around in this thread and hope for OP upgrading the camera and make it more usable for me. According to former price developments of Galaxy devices, the S8 will most likely cost the same as the OP5 in one month. I'll see then and decide which one I'll get.

go go OP5 :(
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
New test vs u11. Op5 on 4.5.3 fw https://goo.gl/photos/7ceSb98AFYQD17uA7
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] slakosd:
Thanks you! I see a little improvement but the lack of OIS force to the phone to use heavy ISO like 9600. This is extreme for a mobile phone (Facepalm)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lautarojcb:
Hi, could you do a couple of comparisons in raw? It is true that the jpg lose many details, but to know whether to buy it or not, I would like to see how much detail oneplus 5 takes in raw :) PD: sorry for my bad english!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
I dont know if the lack of OIS is the only cause but take the first scene : the O+5 shoot at 1200 ISO when the HTC is just at 460 ISO. Second scene : 9600 ISO versus less than 2000. Finally, I have to say the Oneplus behaves well at such high ISO ! But the problem is : why does it need so much sensibility to shoot ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
Just wanted to post the same comparison.

1, this cannot be RAW, pictures in high iso are totally washed out (OP5)

2, to compare the pictures they should be scaled down

3, look at the details anyway. For me pictures of OP5 look much more detailed (see the brushes e.g.

I´m coming from S7. For me (my eyes ;) ) the difference is more obvious. Will make some tests but for now I think (hope) the camera beats at least the one from S7.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
No ois = boosting up ISO, so it can use faster shutter speed. Less blurry shots from hand instability.

To be fair, as far as I can remember, op5 matches/beats unstabilized xz premium shots which costs a lot lot more tho.. I'll do a three way comparison between op5, xzp, and u11 tomorrow as I'm heading out to the countryside.. Hopefully more interesting shots too
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
Yeah I know but... Seriously, multiply ISO by 3 or 5 ? If yes, this is kind of an hardware issue, nothing that software updates will be able to fix.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
I don't think we should take the ridiculously high ISO stated on the exif so much. Possibly it's not actually using that much, but the processing done via auto hdr throw the numbers off. Maybe..

Pixels get their way without ois by using some kind of sorcery with their hdr+ no one has been able to replicate..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
But that would explain the overly washed details : post processing struggling to hide the excessivily noisy shots caused by über high ISOs
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
There's going to be no magic software update to sort the camera, people waited for an age for the 3 and 3T camera to be "fixed".
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sodomanaz:
Took a pic of a filthy remote then tried the zoom.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Op5 vs Xz premium (superior auto, relatively steady hands)

https://goo.gl/photos/iHeBKHSVWgP4QK337
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziphnor:
The XZ is looking much better in the photo of that dog. In the rest its harder to decide without having a high quality reference picture (especially wrt to correct colors).
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lautarojcb:
Please shoot raw, I want to see if it takes more details!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nullzwo11:
I've installed the Google Camera app and I noticed that the pictures are better with Google's Cam. Less noise in low light rooms, sharper details e.g. of hair, eyeleashes etc.

I think the post processing of the pictures is too strong in the OP-App. So I guess that software updates will do their part. Or let's say: I hope! Because I actually like the features of the OP's app more.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vprasad1:
Can you guys do some comparison shots between latest stock camera app vs Google camera app?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dcervi:
My first portrait photo. Not looking bad compared to my old Z3 compact.View attachment 4195043

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziphnor:
Some photos comparing my old phone (LG G4 (DxoMark 83) ) with my OP5:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129819221@N07/shares/Gc75P1

I used both auto-HDR and HQ settings as well as manually setting iso 200 + 1/15 in pro mode on the OP5. The latest (look at the timestamp in the EXIF) OP5 photo as taken with the "HD Camera Ultra" app (just to try something else).

I am a little unsure as to what the conclusion is. The LG G4 sensor is obviously getting *far* more light at a given ISO level, but on the other hand, when comparing auto mode,i actually think the OP5 looks better, but it is more a matter of colors than detail.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Used Google camera 4.4.012.156195200 (latest?)

https://goo.gl/photos/eyWCLdNB7z2q5yJi7

More grain more detail on gcam, stronger noise reduction on op cam
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziphnor:
IMG_20170628_061214.jpg looks better by far, that is the op cam?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nullzwo11:
Looks like the focus is set differently in the photos. I recognize that a lot in comparison pictures. Some then claim that there is less detail in the OP's pics. But when you look closely, you can see that the focus is 'misplaced' and other regions of the photo are sharper.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziphnor:
Really? I think that IMG_20170628_061214.jpg looks better overall, not in a specific region. I still don't know which one is the OP cam though :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hurray:
Can someone please test if another camera app like e.g. "a better camera" is working correctly with the OP5?

I want know if the same problems as with the OP3 are still existing (broken/bugged HAL2 support which prevents the full usage of other camera apps than the original OOS one). Thanks.