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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
The app certainly uses the image from the sensor and render it at 1080p which is why it look super sharp. It's like a kind of supersampling.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] atistang:
I've went through some of the pictures from my 6P and zoomed in on my PC. I see some softer edges here and there, but nothing like what I am seeing with the OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] PKFR4Life:
Right? Like, you can see how the 6P wasn't perfect either but you'd be able to let go of the what you'd deem as smartphone limitations. But there's a limit. And as of right now, the OnePlus 5 is performing poorly here.

Thanks for confirming this!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Guess OnePlus is still using their subpar Postprocessing then.

Too bad they did not fix anything on the OP3, 3T and 5.

https://youtu.be/hbn9Lj6F6EM
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
The sensor in the OP5 is old and not great but the software is also poor. Does anyone think OP just don't have the software people to write good post processing algorithms?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] PKFR4Life:
Oh wow! This is my first OnePlus device. Interesting!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReyTheBoss:
well why can't it do the same in it's image processing after the pic is taken ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
Because a 1920×1080px picture is almost useless (that's 2Mpx). Zooming into the picture will be bad and you won't be able to crop it without loosing a lot in quality.

So, you will want higher resolution than that. I will agree that 16Mpx is useless for most usage but 2Mpx is way too low.

But their was, in the past, phones that use such kind of trick to take pictures (some Sony and Nokia) and results were great (for Nokia but not so much for Sony as far as I know) but they were using sensor with more Mpx (20Mpx sensor for Sony and 41Mpx sensor for Nokia) and I think I remember that the end result was a picture of only 8Mpx (not totally sure about that for Nokia).

So if I have to guess, I will say that such kind of process can be done on the OP5 but with a lower resolution for the end result and the quality won't be that great.

Edit : Note that every shot will have to be processed a lot more than what is done right now. This will affect the reactivity of the camera which is IMO actually the biggest plus of the OP5's camera.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Sony IMX 398 is pretty new but the algorithm needs some work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
New in terms of release date but not in terms of specs. It is based on specs that we used to see in 2014-2015 (I will call it the pre-6P era lol)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Yeah, it's an older phone sensor.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
I prefer to say that it's a new sensor using an old design. It's still not totally the same as the last year IMX298 because of the Dual PDAF.

But Sony does that every year (and it's normal) they launches new sensors with last years techs but cheaper.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Well if they went for the Sony IMX 400 nobody would complain I guess ? But yes, it's the same old same but with some extra cream on the top.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
I would personally prefer an IMX378 or an IMX368 which are more versatile for photography but I will for sure take an IMX400 over an IMX398.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
Not sure who the Mod is for News and General discussion but should we have a separate Thread for just posting Pictures? Not to discount discussion of the camera but that's just what this thread seems to be. Should there be a dedicated Picture Thread?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lethallunatic:
Does anyone have lens flare with the rear camera? Especially noticeable when it's very bright..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Yes. Bring on the pictures and some tips n tricks for making them better

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Galve_FCB:
Yes, me and other users on spanish community have the issue... I will replace my op5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wisodev:
I have made a lot od pictures in bright light and didn't have issues with lens flare.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lethallunatic:
Really?? Thanks for letting me know. Was starting to wonder if the problem was isolated. How about the front facing camera? Any lens flare on that?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wisodev:
Yes I just reviewed again my pictures and could not see any lens flare issues. I did not make many pictures using front facing camera so I can not help you here.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
The camera is not fantastic but takes some pretty good shots anyway my S8 is a lot better specially when zoomed right in.

Will do a full comparison if any you guys want it?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JonasSavimbi:
Hi guys. Is there anyway to make the camera to always use HQ mode when launched?

I find the pictures taken in HQ way better, detailed and less noisy than the ones taken with HDR, aHDR or HDR off. Also noticed that in HQ mode the OP5 uses much lower ISOs, or so to say, uses much more adequate ISOs than the absurdly high ones the other modes.

Give it a try and compare the pictures.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Samples of the same shot with HQ vs HDR, aHDR or HDR off???

Care to share some samples of the same shot with HQ vs HDR, aHDR or HDR off. I don't own (yet!) a OP5 but I would very much like to confirm that the current status of degraded camera perofrmance on OP5 is just a matter of poor software, that can be solved otherwise via future updates.

Thanks a lot!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JonasSavimbi:
Hi,

Not my samples but here's a comparison between jpeg processed and raw user edited files for you to understand the kind of lousy work Oneplus has made

https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6jp0c0/oneplus_5_raw_vs_jpeg/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Thanks for the reply. Quite interesting.

However I am very surprised about not being able to (despite intensive search) find any available OP5 .dng files to download and play with.

I would very much want to try my hand and technique at processing some .dng files and see how much can we get out of them. I am also using Capture One PRO to process raw files, which I consider to be vastly superior to Lightroom.

Could you be so kind and upload a few to some Google Drive, Dropbox , whatever... should you have the time?!

Thanks a lot.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Which kind of pictures do you want? A mixture of low light and good lighting photos?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
That mix would be gold! :)

And maybe with the out of camera jpg too so in the end I could publish the results of my research "how much better from RAW to JPG on OP5"... ;)

Thanks a lot!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
To me the camera performs outstanding
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
OP5 camera is worse than LG G4 one:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
OK gonna do this tonight after work.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lethallunatic:
I'm returning the oneplus. Too many factors that dissatisfied me. Will be patient for something else. Back to my good old note 3
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
Its very interesting to know what this camera is able to do... I hope OP developers tune their postprocessing because right now is horrible.. worse tahan a 2015 camera (LG G4)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
Here are some pictures I took last couple of days.

I've switched from Galaxy S7 edge, and I'm quite pleased with the the results. For one the quality of details is better, due to higher pixel count. Camera opens faster and whole experience is more snappy.

If you have any requests I'll be watching this thread and try to deliver!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] atistang:
do you still have your S7 to do some side by side comparison shots?

Also where those pictures taken in auto mode? HDR?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
I don't have it anymore, no.

All photos are auto. About HDR I'm not sure.if it's auto on than yes, probably ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
One is from a S8 and One is from a OP5, can you tell which one? It's a little like Apples and Pears because of different lightning ?View attachment 4201990

OP5 on the left

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
S8 on the left. The OP5 is just far too dark and noisy.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Simple guess

OP5 on the left... cause it has better "Portrait" feature than S8 and it's not as sharp as S8. So? Am I right? :)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sodomanaz:
Here's some random photos from last night. Took the 5 and the 3 with. 5 came out a bit nicer.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wisodev:
Took some pictures with my OnePlus 5:

https://imgur.com/gallery/i7xkN

Pictures:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dasti555:
Guys. How is camera in snapchat? Can I use "2"x zoom in snapchat too by just zooming or does it request that special "2x" button? and also what about that portrait? Is possible somehow use it in snapchat too?

Mine should arrive tomorrow ... but here is so much issues (Jelly,camera is not that perfect) and lots of hits that 5T is comming .. Should I return it?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
I have only been able to DL the picture in 1Mpx so I'm not able to compare details or noise but I suppose S8 is the left one because the right One has some fails in edge detection.

But I would prefer full resolution jpg and pictures taken in tougher conditions.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
Take it and use it for a day or two and than decide for yourself!

In the end it's your money,not ours.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dasti555:
Well you are right .. but what if 5T doesn't arrive? AFAIK Carl said on XDA interview that 3T was just bit upgraded phone to perfect from 3.. or something like that well .. 5T can be a huge "edit" to perfect phone ...

On my OPO battery is horrible, it's for some reason just throttling .. too big temperature have phone ..

Anyway what about that snapchat? :D I just can't wait :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Ok, as promised I uploaded some pictures on gdrive. Same motives in good and bad lighting conditions. Some all set to automatic, some with lowest iso and a longer shutter speed. Phone was placed on a chair to avoid any shaking. Needs some time to upload all. So please be patient. Another motive was taken when I was out with the dog for a walk. I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to take a picture where a poster with letters etc to see in a more detailed way what is going on with the camera performance.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByKJo46F4BWMWFUxNzR3cVl2MkE
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JonasSavimbi:
These photos are the perfect example of the crappy job Oneplus has made with the processing. They seem to be taken under good lighting conditions and yet are totally muddy, watercolor looking with absolutely no detail... It is completely unreliable because it can deliver sometimes in lower distance or close up shots and, other times, you end up with a mess like that. :eek:

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Hi,

Where those taken in aHDR or HQ mode?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxvim:
here there are two pics that i made yesterday. mmm, if i see on OP's display they are good, but on pc, i don't know, but they seem like "pastels", what do you think? I haven't edit anything, just shoot.

[IMG="1"]http://i.imgur.com/Z7bK1JU.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="3"]http://i.imgur.com/M4G0PbS.jpg[/IMG]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wisodev:
Photos have been taken using Google Camera app without HDR.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
You're right. OP5 on the left.

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---------- Post added at 02:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:44 PM ----------

Lovely photos!

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
This thread is mad, people are posting pics that's aren't very good and saying they're great!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zige:
Oh.. You should mention that on same post than pictures. As Google Camera is far different than Oneplus camera app and uses different processing. Do that guy above who barked aboit cloudy, not details etc. barked Google's camera app... Sad you dont have pictures with Oneplus camera app from same place/moment.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
Here's some more

1 is standard

2 is X2

3 is bokeh mode
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Stop wasting space please.

View attachment 4202627View attachment 4202628View attachment 4202629

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sodomanaz:
You've certainly done all you can to piss on everyone who owns this phone on multiple threads. I'm sorry the phone and it's camera are not up to your standards. I hope you returned it and can move on with your life.

And to defend my crappy photos, these were at an arena concert where seating was not exactly optimal for photos. I think the zoom worked well enough to get photos that worked despite limitations. They certainly came out better than the 3 we brought along.

I've seen many extremely nicely shot photos in this thread and I think it absolutely sucks that you continue to post here spewing nothing but venom towards those who aren't unhappy like you.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vinz_uk80:
+1.

We've well understood your point on the OP5 B3501 :o

Really interested with this OP5 to update my OPX, which I really like. If I can have better low light pics, it would already satisfy me greatly.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
So I took a few picture in dng format using manual camera, proshot but all the dng files had a pink tint making them useless.

Dng from stock oneplus camera are fine.

Can anyone confirm this?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulyz:
I switched from OP5 to s7edge and I can say, what OP5 camera not even close to samsung's camera.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BazzFreeman:
I took this the other day. Pro mode, RAW, edit in Snapseed.

Not great, not too bad.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Yes, camera fv5, Proshot, snapcamera, open camera etc etc... All have this pink tint
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
The DxO score of the OP5 should be published soon.

https://m.facebook.com/oneplusin/photos/a.360738364086093.1073741830.358481340978462/810108495815742
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
84-85 I guess (because of poor crop quality, watercolor effect and extreme noise reductor losing details such as shades and tiny things
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Sadly the low light is not top notch.

Using HQ mode I'll say it close to Huawei Mate 9 Pro.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] daleski75:
Managed to take a few pictures of my daughter jumping on her trampoline this morning and was quite surprised by the results specially as it has no OIS.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=aFJUM25PbEJ2d0Rjd2h1VzJzT0ZocTFIQzFCVVdB
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vinz_uk80:
I'm sure this is at least 10x better than what my OPX offers me in low light conditions, regarding all of the samples I've already seen.

I know S8, LG G6... provide better results, but I really like the freedom with Oneplus with rooting devices, very light OS, great battery life... more than top notch picture quality in low light.

But as my OPX still works very well under Nougat, I don't see the point now in changing it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Ois doesn't help with moving objects/people.

It helps with shaky hands in lowlight.

Cool shots nevertheless!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nullzwo11:
Can you actually choose which camera lense you wanna take a picture with? I've read some articles where they mention that but I don't know how to do that.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dasti555:
Can you tell me what the hell is this?

It's from portrait mode...

Do you see there that dots?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dcervi:
Maybe it's related to what I'm just going to say...

Anyone else noticed much worse portrait shots after latest update? I've just installed it few hours ago, and now I can't take any picture in portrait mode without getting a low detail, badly focused and overprocessed image.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vangelis13:
Quite the opposite I'd say, if anything I'm taking better portraits after the update. But, according to the changelog they didn't touch the cameras..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] davfiala:
Need to figure out, how to hold the phone more steadily. ☺️
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] davfiala:
Another two. I'm pretty happy with camera. 1+ simply overhyped this and it really pissed lot of users, but for its price it is decent shooter with potential to be even improved in future.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
There is a different between shot in JPG and shoting in RAW (and then convert to JPG in 0% compression)

So, the mixture of lens and sensor are not bad at all.. the thing is the incredible bad postprocessing
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
That at least gives us hope for more quality down the road.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
Chillin
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
what a nice pic!!! As always... it´s the person behind the "cam" ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
Same question here. And what is the second lense for (except portrait mode) ?

Some colors from this day...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] srt99:
wait what!??

so does this mean you cannot use any other camera app other than the stock?

and if you can, then is there any compromise?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
Of course, you can. Jpeg is fine, it's just shooting in raw format that has this pinky tint
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snipeerz:
any chance that if the company make some update (ota) for the phone ( fix or upgrade some camera futures ) it will be good or its some thing about the darware !
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] goingonstrong2:
How do you convert to JPEG after shooting in RAW?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Astur_Torque:
Lighroom in PC o snapsheed in Android
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
OnePlus 5 camera 2 API is broken. You cant use any 3rd party camera app for shooting raw dng as the resulting raw file has a pink tint, also you can't use ISO above 800 and shutter slower then 1/17. selecting any value above that is the same.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] goingonstrong2:
[IMG="My 2nd attempt at Astrophotography with my Oneplus 5"]http://http://imgur.com/a/Z7vOD[/IMG]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] xyourxhighnessx:
Playing with long exposure. Sorry I had no tripod (background is blurred due to human error) but I do like the light trail
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
It's done automatically at least when you use apps like Snapseed or lightroom.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tommy92tc:
Italy
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
OK, this is not the most spectacular shot here, but I am proud of this photosphere (click on the picture, then click&drag to pan).

https://goo.gl/photos/uQvtUhLhV34icjqN9
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
Amazing!! Which app did you use?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
Google Camera app. No edit, nothing, only changed panorama quality to "high".
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] niftium:
My G4 is starting to act up and I've been wondering how the OP5 camera compares to the G4's. Thanks for this!

(but sadly, YIKES, that's awful)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] carlese:
Hi, does anyone notice blurry pictures when using whatsapp? They look out of focus or something..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] firoz3321:
Black and white
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] xyourxhighnessx:
Did you use a tripod for this?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] srt99:
.dng files from stock app are usable though..??

and what is the slowest shutter speed on stock app?

also what is the highest and lowest iso usable on stock camera app?

ps. any chance of op fixing the api?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankajsammal:
Dng using stock camera app is always overexposed but useable. Low light dng are way too overexposed requiring heavy editing. My Nexus 5 produces better dng then this.

Slowest shutter speed - 30sec

Max iso - 3200

I don't think they our going to fix it soon as there are oneplus 3t users on their forums complaining about the same issue from past few months.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BorisDeviant:
No, I was hiking with a ~25kgs bag on my back, so I did not feel the need to take a tripod :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] maddes1402:
The focus of this review is about the photography with OnePlus 5, from a perspective of a professional photographer.

http://www.alessandromichelazzi.com/one-plus-5-photo-review-professional-photographer/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
I recently received my OP5 in the mail yesterday, and my Nexus 6P hasn't sold on Swappa yet. Anyone want to see comparisons between the two cameras?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Let's add some dramaView attachment 4208620View attachment 4208621View attachment 4208623View attachment 4208625View attachment 4208626View attachment 4208627View attachment 4208628View attachment 4208631

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Check his linked sample pictures on a PC and you will notice the exact same issues people are complaining about since its release: blurry lowlight shots, heavily postprocessed daylight shots (watercolor paintings).

His photos are certainly great when it comes to composition, whitebalance, colors and dynamic range. But image quality is nothing special when looking at the provided full resolution samples.

The other pictures are just downsampled photos, some of them edited, which convey a higher quality but can't be really used to rate image quality.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2576626/per area download PixelSquare/OnePlus5 original.zip

Exif Data says Adobe Lightroom, so maybe they were developed from raw, maybe don't.

When not pixel-peeping though, the images are nice to look at, which is probably what can and should be expected from this camera and smartphone cameras in general more or less.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lasersdude:
Yes please!

But no more pictures of flowers!! Few indoor and low light shots (with HQ enabled on the 5) would be nice.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ab7casper:
Will do.

I'll do Auto settings on both, HDR on 6p and HQ on 5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] saggiboy231:
hello, i just got the OP5 and was trying out the camera.

i took a shot in daylight in auto mode, and there is too much noise in the picture, when i zoom in the actual size, there is no detail at all.

Is there a problem with the device or the camera? Should i go for replacement.

i have the picture for reference.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Link to a non compressed copy.

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