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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
No sure there is nothing to discus here because most users here wants to see it.There are no official statements from any company that produces phones or manufacturers displays that this is caused by the upside down installing the display. Everybody here presumes this is the cause.I have used my op5 for 1 day upside down and now the way I it should and i still notice any difference.100 pages + of discussion without any facts can't be called tech guys that is my opinion.If it is on YouTube or I have a picture of it then automatically these days it is a fact?

Oh and if I was oneplus I would put the display of the 5t upside down to if it is the same desigh don't you think. I really think we will see a 6 version with a different design but more to get rid of the yelly that is haunting them. Having that said op3 has no flaws and the 5 does again it is a opinion. Oneplus was a brand for the tech guys etc. This is the past (for facts take a look at the oneplus forum)nowadays more and more mainstream users own a oneplus and if a tech guy is disappointed doesn't mean it is a bad phone.

If I include myself under the tech people it is never good enough.

But I do not have any problems with the op5 comparing it to my previously owned op3.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manchue:
The anecdotal evidence is very strong. What's the point in arguing if your device is not affected? The fact that it doesn't occur with the display upside down is a dead giveaway. It's a clear design oversight.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Again if a connector is on the opposite side of the screen this automaticly means it is a design flaw please.

Placing something upside down happens a lot and I mean not only in phones.

Facts convince someone with facts. Has Samsung stated it does not work as it should or the yelly is the cause of this no.

This whole thread is based on speculation and the harder you scream here the more it becomes a fact.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manchue:
I don't think you understand the nature of the problem thoroughly. There's nothing for you to defend other than your own passive aggressiveness.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
This has nothing to do with aggression but it seems I have another opinion on what is a defect and suspecion on what could be a defect because there are no hard facts.

And please explain to me what the nature of the problem is

:)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Bad implementation decision?!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
What does this help to explain because they put the screen upside down and they have used the op3t screen??
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manchue:
I don't have forever to argue semantics over the internet. It's not a bug, hardware flaw or defect. It is a flaw in build implementation aka design choice. The fact is the screen is flipped 180 degrees which amplifies the jelly visual which is present on all phone screens. My Galaxy tab S2 has the same issue, but to a much less noticeable degree.

The point is, it's distracting, and at an effect this noticeable, not how screens are designed to be percieved. If the effect was even more pronounced and noticeable on ALL phones, nobody would tolerate it.

Examining the problem in hyperbole tells us the nature of the problem. Take audio circuits for example. If an audio chip is not properly isolated in a device, it will pick up EMI and degrade the listening experience. If the noise was generally low and only noticeable during no playback, nobody would complain. However, if some units had electrical noise audible through music, that would be a problem. This is the same exact situation. Not a bug, not a defect, but a design flaw from the get go.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Thanks for this explanation but not everyone experience or notice this how to explain.

The only information we have is the type of screen we have but what does this tell us about the internal software of the screen.

Is it possible they changed firmware unannouched oneplus indeed do actions like these.

For example I have the second screen protector from them and unannouched I have a complete different revision.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
XDA devs have looked at the source code and there's code implemented to turn the display upside down,there was an article on XDA about it. One Plus have installed the display upside down and then changed the source code to flip the image to what you see on screen to the correct way. This is a bad implementation of a screen install, you can't deny this.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
I don't say it was implemented the right way but there is no way you can deny many users do not see it so why couldn't they.

Maybe a change in the way the maybe new firmware executes the refresh??

If they change the 180 degrees in the oos code all screens will have a 180 degrees turn including the phones who maybe not have the new firmware.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
All the One Plus 5 phones have the display inverted and all the phones have the 180 degree source code. Some people can't see it because perhaps they don't know what they're looking for or they aren't as sensitive to it. Anyway here's the article showing the source code, Sultan xda showing it....

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....pside-down-likely-reason-jelly-scrolling/amp/
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] StreetkillnHD:
I don't have such issue. Anyone else?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
I received mine today and it has a little. Almost unnoticed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
So it's different from the first one? (If i am not wrong this is your second one?)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Yes it's my 2nd one. :D

As to the jelly effect it's almost the same as my 1st one.

Almost not noticeable on normal usage and only a little noticeable when forcing continuous/repetitive up/down movements.

As to my wi-fi connection problem that origin the return of my 1st OP5, this one also "had it" until I found out the culprit ... in my router the security mode was set to WPA1 and after I changed it to WPA1/WPA2 it connects instantaneously !

Shouldn't the OP5 be able to use WPA1 ?!?? This makes no sense!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
The truth is that many times i don't even observe it.. only if i think about it :). I got used to it. For me this is really a non-issue.

What i consider an issue is the wifi battery drain (it drains more battery than any device i saw) and in general poor battery life when idle (typically android i guess :().
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
I can confirm that I've tried 3 different op5 and all had the same jelly effect. It's on all phones

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
All looked the same? The "jelly effect level" was equal in all 3 ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
Yes, exactly the same.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tharmor:
They came with 3T as 4 is unlucky number​ in china..next will be 6
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
The 3T was a reply to Apple who have the "S". The OP5 came because of the unlucky number 4.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Got my phone yesterday. Everything is great but the scrolling effect.. It's very well present and obvious.

I'm very sad but I cannot use the phone like this. I'll be returning it in the next days.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Can you post a video of it?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Not right now. Next week I will have another phone to make a video.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] halfbytecode:
Is there any sort of workaround to this issue?

Something implemented in a custom ROM/kernel would be good to know as well.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gu$houn*:
I got mine 2nd OP5 6/64 today and the jelly effect is still present, so I didn't even unbox it and filled the RMA return form.

During those 4 days I'm using the first OP5 I think I've somehow got used to it, it's not disturbing, it's just there and every time I notice it, it makes me smile how the f*ck Carl thought people wouldn't notice ... :D

I was ready to order the LG G6 which I liked based on the pictures but today I went to lg showroom and saw it for real and the phone is just too thick ompared to OP5 and the overall feel just wasn't right so I'll probably keep my OP5 ...

P.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Why ?? We already have numerous of them.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Interesting that you shared that about the G6. If I'm to return this one (which I'm pretty inclined to), I am to get the G6. I now it is a bit thicker but it is also smaller in the hand. The OP5 is pretty big!

Now I need to get my hands on a G6 before the 15 days pass and make up my mind.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rebel7022:
don't get the G6 the phone will get super hot because its last got last year's processor.

I just read this article today on how the LG 6 isn't selling good
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Yes G6 is a no go to and has problems too! google it!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
my effect on my op5.panel id fa5

http://vid1068.photobucket.com/albums/u448/beaverhead1/20170727_154044_zpswnbdeyzx.mp4
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Cant see the video!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
strange .works fine here if i click on the link.otherwise i try another way later.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gu$houn*:
Yeah, I was pretty excited about G6 based od pictures etc but when I had it in my hand, the phone feels kinda cheap, don't know why but it really did. The other surprise for me was that there is no power button on the sides, you just have tu press the fingerprint sensor, which is really weird. Yeah, the knock on does this job but it doesn't work from all the screens ...

P.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
lets try this way.

https://app.box.com/s/ofv9fazvvb82xo33tln1okk7508u0ie9

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see other link.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
There's no jelly effect there! At least in that screen. Or maybe if it is recorded with an app one the phone, we can't see because the effect is noticeable outside the screen. I wish mine was like that.

How did you record that?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
It's normal, you can't see the effect recording the screen like that. It has to be an external camera.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duapps.recorder&hl=nl

with this app.not so good but good enough to see.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
The jelly effect is not visible when recording with an app ;) LOL

I just finished a little video of my OP5 that I would like to share with you guys.

It's the 8GB/128GB version that arrived me Tuesday and was manufactured in 13/07/2017.

I filmed with my tablet a Samsung Galaxy Tab S and the test subject was the Twitter app.

It's made of "two parts" ... 1st to test screen latency (scrolling and stopping actions) and 2nd to test the jelly effect.

See and tell me what do you think:

[YOUTUBE]9sFCQa_8sac[/YOUTUBE]

Even at 0.5x speed I see no latency and the jelly effect if any must be small.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gonsa:
Yep, that's the jelly effect that I have.

The thing is, of course we aren't scrolling up and down ridiculously like this but it's still very well noticeable when I'm scrolling slowly.

I think enough has been said about this. It just saddens me that this phone was going to be perfect if not for this issue.

Thanks for the video though.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Do you really see it?

I don't even know what I see anymore LOL

After so many tests I'm starting to doubt myself :D

At what seconds do you notice it?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
The problem is that the jell effect is more noticeable when scrolling slowly. When you scroll faster you see less effect.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
Is this a kind of joke?! It's like taking a screenshot of a broken display...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Can anyone do a video, comparing OP5 to OP3/3T ?? I'm really curious to see them side by side doing the jelly effect test.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
Just turn the screen of the op5 of 180 degrees. They have the same display.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
That's my problem ... I did it and don't see any difference! :confused:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
i try it again.with another foon.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
https://app.box.com/s/ikd2bwcrqgf6myptw4b0iws4j2bmw5pi

this is better i think.filmed with a galaxy a5.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
You can see a little jelly effect here when you scroll correctly (for the jelly effect of course).
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
i can live with it.my op2 is on the way from oneplus again ,repairing the display on waranty.maybe i use the op2 again.will see
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Or is the phone filming or you have a new jelly effect variant. :confused:

From second 35 I see like a "wave" effect.

You filmed it in landscape but i've seen your movie in my laptop so I rotated the screen to see your footage in portrait and seems your screen makes some kind of wave refresh ( ~ ).

Seems that the images are not horizontally strait.

The jelly effect is not that.

Jelly effect is when the images stretches! not waves.

Dont you notice? See > 35".
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
yes you wright.for my eyes its also like a wave.thats also my feeling.so thats different ?

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Do you see it live as in the video?

The problem is that you are filming in portrait with your samsung.

Film with both in portrait and compare to the 1st video ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nosphor:
Guys, to make it clear for everyone else.

This effect impact ALL Oneplus 5 actually in production. It was "willingly" produce like that. There are no exception.

Mine, naturally, got it too and actually i found the effect pretty cool. It simply depend on your own taste. You gotta have to see it in real life to really make a real opinion about it. I bought it first to see it and return or to keep it like i did.

That's simply it, no actual video on youtube or else will really show what the effect is about with phone in your hands.

Edit : By the way, to really made the effect "appear" you will have to slowly scroll up and down and you will see some part of the display (high up) stretching. If you don't see it then simply enjoy the phone :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Badassian:
So I don't know what madness came over me, but I decided to buy the 8gb version of the OP5, despite all the complaints about the jelly effect.

I probably bought it because the development support on this device is just too tempting for me to pass up considering the price of this phone. Do you guys think I made the right choice? Was I right in assuming that the developer support is as strong if not stronger than something like the Pixel? Or is the Jelly effect really that deal breaking?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DSF:
The jelly effect is a deal breaker only for a small amount of people.

Imho, the wifi drain battery or the poor low light camera are more important issues than jelly effect!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
yes in live its the same effect.

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[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Feedmeeeee:
this issues you mentioned can be fixed by software. but jelly cant be fixed by sw its hardware issue.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Folks, we are mixing 2 issues here.

One is the jelly effect: image stretches by doing up/down movements.

Two is the wave effect: image makes a wave effect by doing up/down movements.

The first one is already more than explained here and everywhere and my OP5 almost doesn't show it thank God.

The second one occurs when the device is in landscape mode.

I think ALL devices from ALL brands do it and my OP5 too of course.

Tested last night on my Samsung Tab S 10.5" (amoled), tested on my son Honor 8 (IPS), tested on my daughter BQ Aquaris E5 HD (IPS) and all of them when in landscape do the "wave effect" with images.

The interesting thing is that depending if we rotate left or right to be in landscape, this effect is more or less visible!

Another interesting thing, is that when filming it, in the footage the effect looks way worst that it is in person!

I notice this wave effect (like in the video posted by beaverhead) only when my OP5 is in landscape and then I went and test on those 3 devices and they all do it.

And the larger the screen the more "wavy" it gets!

I the case of the beaverhead video, the phone is in portrait but the footage was made in landscape!

Test it on your devices and you will see it's normal.

The jelly effect is real but I think many people are testing in landscape and that's not the jelly effect ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] doki81:
how do you guys test the jello effect? i just gotten mine..8gb/128gb...and i can't find any jello effect bundle with my unit :(
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrashTestDroid:
Mine has jelly, it's a little trippy.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnydue:
Just got my phone and I have the jelly effect. I still cant figure out why there are no jelly if I turn the phone upside down with locked orientation. Is the effect a combination of refresh direction and how eyes work?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Yes.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Can you shows us the effect? can you film it?

Cant understand why some people don't see it and others do :(
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] srt99:
OP has provided the video.

i can see the jelly effect on my op5. i can see the same effect on my s4 if i use my s4 upside-down.

this jelly scroll effect is present on all oneplus 5 devices. it is not a manufacturing defect, it's a design flaw.

and most ppl with good eye sight should be able to see the effect. those who aren't seeing it, good for them. may be they are lying or may be they are one of those ppl who can't see a difference between 30fps and 60fps.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Yes I know but I would like to see the particular case of the johnnydue OP5 because I've seen some that it's clearly noticeable and anothers where it isn't.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rebel7022:
you'll see it eventually as you scroll it will look a tad jelly sometimes. it's barley a bit deal,
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Enddo:
same here, a5 panel with the jello effect when scrolling
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Aida actually Shows two framebuffer devices. One being the from the soc and the other from the cmd Panel itself. I wonder if it's the same on the older video Panel or cmd Panel of the 3 or 3t
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dreinulldrei:
Same here. Don't believe they are using the older panel A3 these days. That was in the 3, the 3T already had the A5...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rauttis:
Maybe I've been staring at this issue for too long and am now going crazy, but I read a comment saying that the display is physically mounted upside down on the OP5. So I turned the phone upside down... and guess what, no jello. What I did next was turn my OP3 upside down. Jello effect! So I guess this could actually be a hardware thing, something to do with the viewing angles and the AMOLED.

Someone else please test this and confirm whether I'm going crazy or not :eek:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wedgess:
I wouldn't worry about that, happens on other devices too. The values for the sensors are constantly changing in the textviews and seems like it's blocking the UI thread which is causing the horrible scrolling.

tldr; Apps fault not the device.

A5 here also and no jello effect...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ronayke:
On another forum (in Dutch), somebody has a 6GB model with the A5 panel, but doesn't experience the jello effect (as he says...).

So that could mean that it's not particularly the fault of the panel itself. :eek:

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I just turned my phone upside down while it was in potrait mode and I still have the jello effect... :crying:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
This line

debug.egl.hw=1

Seems to be missing in build prop

Should be right under debug.sf.hw=1
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVR_PR:
Just did this and you are absolutely correct. Flip the phone around and the jello effect disappears.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
What doesn't Sdm.debug.disable_partial_split=1 mean? It's new to me

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It also says

Ro.hdmi.enable=true

I don't think we have HDMI

Omg one line says

#enable Signal cheating

Persist.sys.oem_smooth=true
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] casual_kikoo:
Guess what ?

Just add this line, and it

SEEMS

that the jello effect is gone. But need other people to confirmed.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] SinisterSloth:
Just to add. Flipping my current phone (Sony Xperia Z5) upside down, results in the jello effect at the top (physical bottom) of the screen. It is an LCD panel. However the jello effect is not very strong. It is definitely noticeable.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Are you f**** serious?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] casual_kikoo:
Can you try to confirm ?

I ask over Oneplus forum for some mates to test, giving proper credits of course.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Im not rooted hahaha Just checking build prop in Aida64 App.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] casual_kikoo:
Alright;

Guys, we need ROOTED people over here

-> can some of you try this https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72828390&postcount=107 and report please ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Can you meanwhile check if changing the line

qcom.inputopts.enabled=true

To

qcom.inputopts.enabled=false

Fixes the missleading Touch issues?

Thanks!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] casual_kikoo:
No problem, tell me an application into I can test this ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
First keep it on true and open a file manager and start scrolling not to fast because you must be able to see the scrolling process. Then Just do a simple Touch within scrolling, wait for a second and then at the next Touch try a fast scroll instead of Just touching. Repeat this and see if it sometimes it refuses scrolling right after the Touch. If yes try the same with the prop line as false (disabled)

It seems to be some Kind of Software scrolling optimization by oneplus but it isn't working as intended. Pointer location in Dev options will show that the Touch Input is there but the system is missleading the Touch Input as there is a bad calibrated value in build.prop