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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RomBetaTester:
What is the best S5 Custom rom out there that allows for the fingerprint scanner to work? I do not like vanilla android I enjoy Touchwiz and other variants of android. I do not like Cyanogenmod or lineage or any other original android roms. Thank you!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Weekend Offender:
Slitr has good battery and u can customize it by choosing which stock apps you need. Grats
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] sasquatch23:
Has anyone heard if this model will work on Verizon? All other carriers suck in my area.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jhould007:
I highly doubt that it will, given that none of the previous models have been able to. From my understanding, GSM technology is faster and allows for better connectivity than CDMA networks like Verizon, which is why it is the only type supported by phones made in places other than North America. I could be wrong, but judging by the past I don't think it's very likely
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] AvRS:
Well they're trying to make this a global phone so if Verizon is CDMA:BC0 then it'll work as that's what it's listed to work on along with 33 others network bands.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
No Band 13 = big problems for Verizon trying to get LTE working normally. It would work on the network I suppose but that is Verizon's main LTE band and also the only one that doesn't overlap with other carriers, like 2 and 4 do.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] swieder711:
From the Oneplus website:

LTE/LTE-A

DL 3CA/256QAM, UL CA/64QAM

Supports up to DL CAT12/ UL CAT13(600Mbps/150Mbps) depending on carrier support

depending on carrier support

Bands

FDD LTE: Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/66

TDD LTE: Band 38/39/40/41

TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39

UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8

CDMA EVDO: BC0

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] loki993:
again a new phone...again completely ignoring the largest carrier in the US
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
They came so close... I have Verizon and T-Mobile, so when I get mine I'm going to pop a Verizon SIM in and just see what happens.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] co.ag.2005:
same here. but it lacks band 13 which is a pretty major one :(
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] realbananA:
So this should work on sprint?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Pem3108:
I put my Verizon Sim in my OP5 and it did get signal, but it showed 1x and right above it 3G. I did a quick speedtest and I was at about 1MB/s. I get around 70MB/s with my iPhone. So I guess the answer is that it does work, but it does not work well. I also don't know about MMS, I tried SMS and phone calls and that worked fine.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Will be tested on VZN as soon as mine arrives on Friday, if its not working on Verizon, I will be sending it right back to them.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
It should function but it DOES NOT have band 13, which was mentioned in a few places now. Considering the price and the potential compromise, it's not worth it.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] tolymatev:
It has bands 2 and 4 but missing 13. No go for me.

Why is it so hard to add band 13. You have all the rest on there. Idiots.

We Verizon users hate Verizon devices but i will not switch networks. If one plus wants to be a true flagship killer and sell a lot of phones, they should include all bands. Verizon is the biggest network out there.

Thats my opinion.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
I totally agree with you my dear Bulgarian friend, makes no sense at all to me. But I will see and give feedback as soon as mine arrives on Friday. I know from a fact that if you live in a fairly big city, band 13 is really not needed, down in ATL I am good with 2 and 4 on all devices. Tested on Mi Mix, which also lacks the band 13, but it has 2 and 4. Anyway I will let you all know on Friday.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] co.ag.2005:
yeah, I'm usually on band 4 here in my town, but when I'm in my office building, it does switch to band 13 since it needs that lower frequency to penetrate the building. So I'd imagine I wouldn't have signal or very weak signal in my office. But I'll try it, mine's set to arrive on Friday as well.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yeah we will have to test, to be honest in the office I am on WiFi so not an issue, but then again are we going to have VoLTE, text and call is questionable.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] co.ag.2005:
yeah, I have wifi at work too, but I wouldn't receive calls or texts (does Verizon send calls/texts over wifi? I don't think they do unless the phone supports that option, which I doubt this one will).
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
I dont think so too, it will be interesting to find out. I am glad they are going the step forward to include more bands, but VZN strikes again. I am sure even if they added band 13, without VZN whitelisting their IMEIs, its still unusable. We will see.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
Quoted from android central

So basically no official support but might work.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Pretty much.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] swieder711:
I have a 4G Network Extender at home. I have to turn on VoLTE to connect to it. I wonder if the OP5 will work with the Network Extender. It works great with my Moto Pure phone.

I appreciate the testing that people are doing. Looks like I will be waiting for the Pixel 2 phone.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Pem3108:
I actually talked to Carl Pei about this yesterday and he was completely unaware of the fact that band 13 was required to run on Verizon. He said that a lot of bands were missing and that even if they had band 13 for LTE, the phone would have still lacked proper 3g bands. He furthermore flat out said that the US market just isn't their main focus right now and that once they have the capital that Google has to make phones, they will make sure to make it compatible with Verizon.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jhould007:
I think I may have found the answer:

This is from a website called Will My Phone Work, http://willmyphonework.net/ and it'll reveal which phones are compatible with certain networks.

Hope that helped!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
From what I was told by someone that works closely with the Oxygen OS team that the support is in the Qcom modems and is disabled in the framework and kernel. So in theory it is possible to fully support Verizon.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] LLStarks:
On top of no B13, there's no BC1 at all.

In short, you're lacking the primary LTE band and half of your legacy voice and 3G.

A miserable experience no matter what.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] htcnext:
Is it compatible? Technically yes. Recommended? No. Those missing bands mean less coverage.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] loki993:
That's fine if they don't want to officially make it compatible...but at least give us the bands and let us try to deal with getting it to work. and the 3g bands dont really matter anymore you can run Verizon on only LTE in most places now. These guys aren't like samsung or LG yet...people buying these phones at this point are aware of more than they average user, so its not like a bunch of people are going to buy and and they say **** it doesn't work on verizon and send it back.

Also verizon has 187 million subscribers..largest in the US....if even 1 percent get the OP that's 1.8 millions dollars...but maybe 1.8 million isnt a big deal to them....

The legacy voice and 3g don't matter as much...Verizon is getting rid of all that soon and going full VOLTE soon. Even now you can go full LTE in most places. So for 90 percent of people out there not having 3g/CDMA compatibility they probably wouldn't even notice.

not having band 13 however is a huge deal and seriously at this point with how long they have been around it seems like they are almost excluding it on purpose.

I would sacrifice 3g and CDMA capabilities to get this phone....I cannot sacrifice full LTE compatibility.

But it doesn't even matter at this point what's done is done and it can't be fixed unless that have a way to unlock that band somehow.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Seems like a poor excuse by 1 +, my theory is just that they didn't try to approach VZN, or they did and VZN said - "Who are you again", and that was the end of it.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] anips:
or 1+ didn't care to get Verizon customers because the vast majority of the population in USA does not even know about 1+. All my non-tech friends that are on Verizon don't even know what the hell 1+ is. Heck I work in an IT department and only 3 other people out of the 30 or so here know what it is. Even the people that I've talked to that know about it who are not tech-savvy would rather have the s8. The main market for this phone in the USA in my opinion is not geared towards the general population but more towards the tech nerds which is not most of america.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yeah, I have a similar situation in my company, but again VZN has over 150 million subscribers, even the smallest percent of them can make a big impact for 1+ if they buy their phones and can use them on the VZN network. Anyway, finally mine shipped today, so most likely will be here next week and I can test before returning it.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Dusty Rhodes:
That's a big deal. If they got .5% of those subscribers to buy a 1+ phone that's 3/4 of a million phones sold.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] co.ag.2005:
just received mine. I put my sim in and up at the top, 1 signal bar showed 1x and the other LTE (for 1 sim). But the APN it autofilled was incorrect (SMS and data wouldn't work, it was like VZW800 or something like that), so I rebooted and tried the correct one (that I got from screenshots of my unlocked Galaxy S8). and now, I just get nothing in the signal bar. I'll keep trying, though. If anyone has any tips on getting it going, let me know. I have a pre-paid T-Mobile sim I'll try as well.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] aenews:
It will work on Verizon (1X/3G/LTE) but due to band support would not be an optimal experience.

It supports Sprint's LTE Bands but not CDMA Bands. Sprint would need to either whitelist the OnePlus 5 or manually add them to the database on an individual basis, which is unlikely to happen.

It will work but not optimally.

For Verizon, you can just pop an active SIM into a phone with band support and you should have working service given proper network configuration. The device does not need to have a whitelisted IMEI unless you are trying to activate a new line of service with the SIM inserted into a phone not in their system.

They are focusing on the North American market but not so much Verizon customers. The OP5 even includes Band 66 which the newest band available on T-Mobile. The HTC U11, S8/S8+, and OP5 are the only current-gen Snapdragon 835 phones that even support that band. The phone has very wide LTE Band support, much wider than the OP3/OP3T, and has LTE Band support for everything except for Band 13 on Verizon.

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This is what I posted in the other thread that asked about support on Sprint.

Verizon uses primarily Band 0 CDMA which the OnePlus 5 (And 3/3T) have included. They all lack Band 1 CDMA which is what Sprint primarily uses and Verizon uses in some major markets. Sprint also uses Band 10 CDMA. For Verizon, you can simply pop the SIM in and get service, but Sprint activation is always tied to the device and not the SIM. Sprint only allows approved devices on their network which is the biggest obstacle.

So service would not be optimal for 1X/3G even if it were activated on Sprint. You'd most likely get no signal at all. The device does support all the LTE Bands, but while there's CDMA Support the OP5 doesn't have any of the CDMA Bands that Sprint utilizes. If you were ever able to get the device manually added in the system or Sprint approved the device on the network, then it would be essentially an LTE-Only device. Note that this might be handy or interesting in a Dual SIM set-up but probably not very optimal for an ordinary Sprint user.

It does work on Verizon as did the 3/3T. Verizon uses Band 0 in the vast majority of the country, but they do use Band 1 in some major cities, so it's not optimal. The OP3/3T/5 supports Band 2/4 but not Band 13 which is the primary LTE Band for Verizon. People have gotten 1X/3G/LTE working on Verizon, but it's not optimal due to the band support. If going for Dual SIM then it may work well for some people's needs.

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Make sure to enable data roaming as well as that setting needed to be ticked on the 3/3T.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Dusty Rhodes:
Am I the only one hoping that somebody finds some obscure testing menu with the selection "scan hardware for additional antennas"?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] selfinfliction:
Just as a question, I run an HTC M9 on Verizon now and if I read it correctly, it does not have LTE band 13 either. Ran a test and it is reporting that it's running on band 2. The oneplus 5 should be good for me, right? I'm super happy with the service I get. It's on vzw prepaid, but this thing has 100% coverage where I travel just like my normal vzw plan work phone.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Dusty Rhodes:
What city, and what kind of speeds are you getting?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] skinnytoo2:
I hope to have mine Monday, I'll test it out. I had a VZW SIM and Tmobs SIM in my 3t and it worked well. Sometimes if I didn't get LTE on VZW I would switch to Tmobs data.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] aenews:
If you are fine without Band 13 LTE and don't need Band 1 CDMA in your area, then it should be fine.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yeah mine is delayed, they even emailed with a $5 off coupon.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] skinnytoo2:
Same here, YooFRICKINhoo!!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] skinnytoo2:
I read that the OTA update may help But signal.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yeah...Verizon compatibility is a no go. So here it is, got the phone yesterday, popped in my Verizon SIM and added manually the APN, since the one that was already on the device was not working. I am getting both data (shows LTE) and voice, but here is the trick, I am getting one or the other. The moment I dial a phone number, the data drops, once I am done with the call, the LTE is back, all that is probably due to the missing VoLTE option, so for calls it falls back to the CDMA. As for speeds, I am getting around 10 Mbps or less on spots that normally I am getting 20 and more, could be the lack of band 13 or not, but that's what is showing constantly.

For now, it looks like its going straight back to One +.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
What is the APN you used?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Verizon

vzwinternet

Thats it, I think the main issue is the VoLTE not working, but if you don't call too much is doable.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
What are the settings? With the stock Verizon 800 apn I get everything but LTE. I get 3g in most places in my remote area. It would be nice to have LTE but it is a necessity as my I have good Internet at home and work.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Those are the only two things you need to add when creating a new APN, name it and add the vzwinternet underneath for the APN.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
BTW, if you are planning to do the famous 15 days hassle free return, keep in mind that is not hustle free and you have to pay for the return shipping to One +. What crappy little company 1+ is indeed.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
For some reason people keep being sent to my voice mail?. I still have a week to see if it is going to be an issue or not. But I may switch to T-Mobile sooner or later anyway. Also I don't mind paying for shipping.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] T1999:
just make sure OP5 work on Verizon 3G? I understand OP5 is compilable with band 4 which is not main band for Verizon. I have two phones currently, one ATT another Verizon. I am thinking put ATT on Sim1, and Verizon on Sim2, Sim2 is making and receiving call only, so it needs work on 3G....
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
Yeah, I have been using it on 3g for almost two weeks. Depending on your area 3g speeds maybe quite fast. It is also compatible with band 2 which verizon also uses in addition to 4 and 13. Also I have sent mms via Verizon Messager+ and it works fine.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
You can probably use VZN one for voice and the ATT for data.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MrWilsonxD:
Right? And name me 3 unlocked world phones that support Verizon or sprint bands? The pixel does I believe, but the comparable model is literally ~2x the price new.

Afaik,The honor 8 doesn't, the axon 7 doesn't, the moto z play unlocked version doesn't, the Alcatel idol 4s doesn't, the mate 9 doesn't, the s8 unlocked I doubt does, nor does the G6 unlocked version.

We're talking about gsm phones here. We should be blaming Verizon that they are still on a network that intentionally restricts it's members to fewer phones so they can reap a profit. To me it's like an American blaming a council of international researchers for using the metric system. The usa is the only ones on the planet who use that unintuitive other measuring system. The same way that again, afaik, Verizon and sprint are in the super minority when compared to all the global gsm carriers..

Edit, I've looked on LG website and they do support Verizon with their unlocked models, at least, allegedly lol. Sorry for any miss information. ( http://www.lg.com/us/unlocked-phones )
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Unlocked LG G5, LG G6, Samsung S7, S7Edge, S8, S8+, HTC U11, Xiaomi Mi Note 2 Global, pretty much all Motorola models, even the lowest E ones. More than a few I think.

If you really want to succeed on the US market, you cant exclude VZN and Sprint, LeEco learned that lesson the hard way.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MrWilsonxD:
Really? Xiaomi? That's impressive. So that begs the question, does oneplus want to get big in the US? Because to me, it doesn't seem that that's their primary market.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yes the Note 2 Global is the only phone that supports 37 LTE bands, its amazing! But you are right, One Plus are not putting enough effort IMO, they better hope Xiaomi doesn't decide to come to the US market, it will be game over.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] htcnext:
There are different reports on the Axon 7 working on Verizon. Some got it working ok, others did not. I have the unlocked G6 working on Verizon, but they made it quite difficult to get it activated. Bottom line is that I do not recommend unlocked on Verizon if you are using anything other than a Pixel. Hypothesis is that their business model is only profitable when customers buy Verizon branded phones. And therefore they do not allocate necessary resources to unlocked customers.

For US customers 5-10 years ago Verizon had the best coverage by far. They still do, but the gap has narrowed by a lot for everybody but Sprint. Also, there are plenty of low cost MVNO's now. I think that OnePlus made a rational business decision to support only GSM. Just pick a GSM MVNO and it should work just fine, and you will save lots of money.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MrWilsonxD:
For example, mint sim, simple mobil, straight talk (they have att, t mobile, and vzw cards based on your needs)

I pay 30$ per month with mint sim and the coverage is very good. Better reception and faster specs than what I used to have with AT&T.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] aenews:
Axon 7 has full support for all CDMA and LTE Bands used by Verizon and Sprint. Sprint doesn't allow it on their network and will not manually add it to the database. For Verizon, you can just pop in an already activated SIM and then you'll have working service. Just complete the initial set-up with a different SIM and ensure that you adjust your network settings for Verizon afterwards.

OnePlus 5 has all Sprint LTE Bands but not CDMA. There would have been no benefit for them to include those bands since Sprint wouldn't have approved the device for the network regardless.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] htcnext:
I have seen others say the Axon 7 works on Verizon but this has not always worked for people. The phone has the hardware to work properly on Verizon. But Verizon has been unwilling to officially support the Axon 7.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/5txzow/will_the_axon_7_work_as_normal_with_verizon/
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] aenews:
It doesn't matter if Verizon doesn't support the device. Unlike Sprint, activation is tied to the SIM.

Simply putting an activated Verizon SIM in an unsupported device will work if you adjust the network settings. Verizon will work even on OnePlus 3/3T/5 but it's suboptimal due to the missing Band 13 LTE and no Band 1 CDMA which is used in some cities.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
So I can say this the OP5 radios and modems support b13 and CDMA as OP is using the latest Snapdragon modem x16. The issue is on the firmware side for things, i.e. OP has them disabled even though the hardware supports it. Now the hard part is getting the proper tools to unlock b13 as one would need some Qualcomm proprietary tools that are extremely expensive.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
Delete -wrong thread
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
I slightly disagree here, I have multiple phones (Lenovo Zuk Z2, Xiaomi Mi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, LG G5 RS988 US unlocked) and ll of them are working with VZN with no problem, some need manual APN entry, which is 15 second job and some work right away. As long as you have a Verizon active SIM, and the phones support the bands, most of the times you will be good to go.

Exactly, thank you!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] biglo:
Well I have noticed in the past on previous one plus devices that some users have been able to create a guide for unlocking some bands on the phones. Hopefully some brave genius is able to do that for us and unlock the 13 band. I will gladly send donations for such an effort since OP seems to have some sort of problem with verizon for some reason. Maybe they have a deal with AT&T or something lol.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
3G CDMA works fine with Verizon, but I don't get any LTE. I have bands 2, 4, and 13 in my area and it won't connect to any of them.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Did you enter the APN manually? I get 4G LTE no problem in ATL area.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
Yeah, I used vzwinternet without any luck. Just connects to 3G. I tried different Sims too
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Weird indeed, it always works for me.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Orion116:
That is what I am basing this on is previous threads. The issue with older OPO phones is that the physical radios themselves didn't support band 13. I got confirmation that the OP5 is using the x16 radio which does support it.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] biglo:
Well lets hope that soon in the future someone will be able to create a guide or mod that can unlock these bands for us. i just hope its soon.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] trentbg:
Yeah not holding my breath on that one, returned mine back to 1+ with a quickness. Better luck next time.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jopey_Meow:
I am currently using this phone with two sims, one for Verizon and one for Cricket. It worked straight out of the box on both networks, EXCEPT for mms, which I had to configure the APN for myself. The people at the Verizon store had no idea what I was talking about, so I had to try a ton of configurations until I finally got one working. I'm going to close my Verizon account for express purpose of finding a carrier that is knowledgeable and supportive of carrier unlocked phones.