yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rauttis:
In theory yes, in practice it might not be so easy. This logic could be part of the panel firmware, Oneplus might not have the source code to it so the manufacturer would have to supply Oneplus the new firmware. The second possible issue is that the firmware could be embedded and not writable from the SoC, which would mean that you'd have to send your phone to Oneplus to get the firmware updated.

This is all just speculation, but these things often are not as simple as it seems.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
why return if your op5 shows nothing... OHH i see.. of course return it if the screen stays black :D
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
There's a clear indication there if people can't even see it in the comparison video they obviously can't even see it on their own phone, is this the kind of lag people are used to lol, it's horrendous and so clear in the video.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] alex9898:
I have already tested it on several phones (6P, S7E, Note 4) and on all of them the jelly effect is only noticeable when the phone is used upsidedown.

Note that I find the jelly effect more noticeable on the S7E than on the 6P and Note 4. I wonder why ?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Return because it can get more noticeable outside the 15 day window for a return.

Also I'm getting a lot of wi-fi connection problems as I stated earlier in this thread.

In the left OP5 I see it. On the right I don't. Do you see anything wrong on the right phone?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
No that's the point one plus and you lot think we're imagining it, what I'm saying is this phone is ****ed, one plus is saying it's not an issue when it clearly is and I'm voting with my wallet.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
that is not true, since i can clearly see it on the left phone, but not on the right one, even if i slow down the right video.

so im curios why is that ? maybe a faulty screen batch ? if so its not a general op5 problem
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
I'm not doubting you mate ;)

I only would like to understand/learn what do you see wrong on the right phone :confused:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
It doesn't matter to me anymore it's packed up in the box waiting for the courier, I've wasted enough time on this trying to sort it out.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
guess no answer is an answer too..
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
In the 15 day return window, OP collects the phone or we have to pay the courier?

And may I ask what phone will you go to? If I return it I'm "phone less" :(

I like the looks of the OP5 Midnight Black very much ... :(
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
you will get a mail with a return ticket
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
But a transporter will come and pick it up or will I have to go to my local postal offices and ship it?

Still I don't like any of the alternatives to OP5 in the Android World :( DAMMMM

[IMG="OP5 Alternatives"]http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/oneplus-5-vs-competition.png[/IMG]

:rolleyes:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] RokRovan:
Here's hoping.

My OP5 is still in transit, so I haven't seen the jelly effect in person. I spend most of my time behind 144Hz monitors so there's a high change I'll see it. My Nexus 5X always seemed choppy for a few minutes untill my eyes got used to it.

I hope they manage to sort this out.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
I still have 7 days before the return period expires ... I hope too to see some light next week.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
So from what a have read there is a special technique to scrolling ??

Like this guy https://youtu.be/2apMftZk9wg

I keep practicing but l can't seem to replicate it bangs head?my phone will not do that
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
I like the look of it too but it's not for me, it wasn't just the scrolling for me i had 5+ serious issues that affected my use of it but it's not practical, i have 2 other phones, my mate 9 (which I'm currently on and this screen is 0 input lag or jelly lol) and nexus 6p so I'm in no rush, I'm waiting for the Google pixel 2, you get what you pay for in this world and sometimes paying cheap gives you these kind of problems.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
when you request the return, they will tell you. i think ups comes to pick it up, but you can bring it your self too.

about phone comparison, i like this page very much. http://www.kimovil.com

if you cant see it here on the right video, then there is a chance you will be fine

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5956cb50c5e86-oneplus-5-jello-comparison.php

maybe its all a magic trick :D a big samsung and apple conspiracy, they hired a troll army to discredit the op5
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] RokRovan:
Very noticable on the left, barely on the right. Hopefully mine'll be like the latter.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] robertogl:
Using Rotation Control from the Play Store you can reverse the screen. In this way there is no jelly effect. I think the problem is that we are used to different refresh mode...

Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5000 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] a g bell:
You think apple, Samsung wouldn't do there best to troll this hmm ?

I am sending my phone back now it's way to fast it takes good pictures when used correctly. It has far to much ram and storage and it charges way to quickly. the battery lasts far to long between charges and l need more bloatware.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Anyone of you have issues connection to wi-fi?

Sometimes it can connect fine to my power-line Devolo 1200, other times no.

And it cannot ever connect to my Technicolor TG784n v3 (2.4Ghz) router.

Even forcing only 2.4Ghz signal on the OP5.

When I enter the router wi-fi password it is accepted and says Saved but cannot ever pass to the state Connected.

Any idea?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wilsonn:
Please dont hijack a thread with a completely different issue :(
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] qasq:
I have 8/128, production date on the box is 9 June - NOJELLO :P
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
Why wouldn't Samsung accept their mistake of Note 7 as bomb? It was a life threatening issue.

But see what Samsung did with Red tinted screens on S8/S8+, shook off the hands by giving out a software update.

Software update for Hardware defect, cool
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sodomanaz:
Pretty much this. I wish I remembered who it was but there was a review that stated one of their test phones had the issue while the other didn't.

I'm not seeing it still and I want to if it's an issue with the entire line so I can return if it's a problem. I just don't see it and I'm on this thing constantly and I'm trying everything I'm seeing here.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MasterDomino:
On the right you have a light version of this issue same as my phone tho idk if it isn't caused by recording but well i can see the same behaviour on my phone.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Drping11:
Just got my OnePlus 5 and dont have jelly effect. I have tested it a lot.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ankit Kabeer:
I can see the jelly effect on right and my OP5 has same effect as on right.

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https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=UUZCekR4TWY0ak56TWtKZ1UzTUhHb2t0WC1ZekFn
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MasterDomino:
youre scrolling to fast try in distance of 1-2cm and do it moderately slowly just try to feel input lag and rebound then should be more visible but if we have lighter version of that "issue" it means we are just too sensitive to it i guess
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
It's probably there on my phone but it's barely even noticeable. Heck, before today when I read about this issue, I didn't even notice it.

I guess on some phones it's very prominent.

On some phones it's not so prominent. Like mine

On yet other ones, it's not there at all - like those of a few other people here.

Or it could just be that I'm either hallucinating or just not 'trained' enough to notice such issues.

Mine was manufactured 06/12
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flint2:
Is there any objective way to measure it?

Can we build an app that displays a grid, accelerate scrolling and film it with another device an then analize the jello effect?

Can be that different people perceive it differently?

Asking many people to test the same device maybe can help.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
Now I can even see it on the right video.

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5956cb50c5e86-oneplus-5-jello-comparison.php

Lol what to say of that!
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MasterDomino:
https://youtu.be/tTDDvusVKo0

Someone posted this on the other thread and i can see the same effect as on mine its slight compared to the first published in this thread(answer: right phone, [MENTION=2298413]Poeta[/MENTION] correct me if iam wrong)

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Yes everyone sees differently and now because of that we should stop caring about that cuz its not that big of a deal it can prolly be minimized by software lets just maybe end this and have fun with our phones :)

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Mine was manufactured 06/02 soo date doesnt change anything, it just shows that its just us having well trained eyes n ****. soo idk if thats really that big of a deal anymore, if you dont look at it you wont notice it and in everyday usage is not noticeable at all, also it doesnt change anything in gaming or media consuming.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tragique:
I'm fed up with this issue. I've initiated a RMA request for a return while I'm within the 15 days window. I'm done with this phone.

What really irks me isn't the issue itself, but how OP keeps shoving everything under the rug and hoping that its customers are too dumb to notice. It's been the same story since the OPO and OP2. They are never going to change.

I encourage anyone reading this to do the same. Companies like this need to know they can't keep taking customers for idiots.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
I uploaded my scrolling effect video. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILisM5dHCWo

I don't know if you'd call that jelly/jello or the absence of it, you be the judge.

Personally, I feel there may be the tiniest bit of this jelly effect which could very well be my imagination. Anyways, it's not something that would bother me in daily use.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MasterDomino:
Yes thats it exactly what i have noice soo it pretty much means we dont even need to rma unless we want to buy 5t later as a matter of fact it doesnt matter a lot as i said its just a small thing noone should give a damn about, like i said it doesnt really matter in daily use nor its really thst annoying its just there and you know about it which is the worst part soo dont focus on it its prolly your imagination ;)
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] VonSohn:
I just opened mine and it does show the jello effect, but I don't find it annoying. It is more or less the same as the video on the right (I did see it over there). I guess it will be solved sooner or later.

Having owned and returned both an S8 and S8+, this is minuscule. Both phones had a red tint and color uniformity issues. Besides the jello, the screen is absolutely great, 1080p and all.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
Second thought. Raised an RMA. I love the phone but probably it's a good idea to just wait for a few days so that they can sort their sh*t out.

Panel f5. Date 6/12

I can live with these 'defects' like camera and minor jelly and all. I'm just not sure what else will pop up once my 15 days return window expires.

You can always buy again.

P.S. I can still keep it. It's just that raising an RMA now gives me a little more time to make up my mind.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BoboBrazil:
Rma and wait. Eventually after a couple of months they will fix issue like yellow band on opo.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marvi0:
Does the jello thingy only happen when scrolling up?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
I've done that but the problem is, I love the phone too much and seeing what all problems people are reporting, I'm just scared my next order may have an issue even worse than the jelly thing.

I don't have any major complaints with my current unit right now. Even the jelly thing is barely even noticeable. It's just the 15 day window that's made me raise the RMA.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
I'm like you.

Love the phone ... but afraid of what will appear next :(

Only have issues with wi-fi connection but it easily is corrected in a next rom.

Next week I must decide as my 15 day window finishes on next friday! :(

Another thing that's holding me from RMA is what the hell will I buy after returning it??? :(:(:(:(

I don't like anything that's on the Android side right now :crying:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BoboBrazil:
I'd keep it if you don't mind the display issue.

Yeah nothing really good. Very few phones with unlockable bootloader now. Only other decent phone might be the htc u 11. I went back to a OnePlus one. Still runs smooth on lineage.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesechocolate:
The jelly effect is a lot more visible on FB than on most other apps. Probably because FB shows feed in rectangular blocks which are easily distorted. The difference between portrait and inverted scrolling is very clear and discernible.

Having said that, even there the effect is barely noticeable for most people.

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That's a very thought-provoking Q.

If not Oneplus 5, then what?

I want Stock Android, Fast, Great battery, front fingerprint sensor, decent loudspeaker, good enough audio output, price proportionate to the features.

Frankly, not many options out there.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] John Woot:
Scrolling up, down even side scrolling. It's not equal for all so if you buy it, good luck. You have 15 days to return it but be carefull to not lose the window because it seems that they have started to evade the returns in some way to gain time. If you lose it, probably, you'll taste the jelly flavor forever.

I still can't use the links in the post but you can copy this in google and find it: reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6kifef/submitted_a_return_request_and_heres_what_i_got/

The are several users since last night receiving the same answer.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
Jump to 6:38 sec

[youtube]FTRZXqRGJeU[/youtube]
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] John Woot:
He started CSR Racing 1 in OP 5 and CSR Racing 2 in OP 3T, not fair, LoL. But overall in the rest pretty similar in both devices. I even like more OP 3T design. OP 3T is one of those I'm considering although i'll wait until August or even IFA to compare all the new 2017 models with the ones from last year in quality/price and then buy the one I'll consider better.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Nah, they'll ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. Then they'll stop support for the phone early whilst releasing the OP6.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
It's no Software issue you can tell by recording the screen with a screen Recorder App. And watching it on your desktop. If this issue is even Present while scrolling in twrp it's sure Hardware or Firmware related
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fusionalex:
I sadly have the issue too, I really hope they can fix it with a firmware update but I'm starting to consider the 15 day money back offer they have...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
For some reason I can't see it getting fixed, I won't get a op again if that's the case.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wedgess:
This looks horrible and I'd be getting a RMA if I had this! Touch wood but mine hasn't this issue, which is surprising seen as I usually end up getting the worst batch of devices. I don't trust Huwaei or LG after both mine got the bootloop of death.. was hoping OP5 was going to be a reliable device :rolleyes:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
I rather guess you haven't noticed it yet and im sure all devices are affected. Just use it a bit longer.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wedgess:
I've had the device since Thursday and I've used it a lot since. I read about this on Reddit a couple of days back so have been looking out for it... Don't want to jinx it but so far it hasn't happened for me! By looking at how bad it is in the videos I would definitely notice it if it was happening.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
When Holding your phone horizontaly and scrolling in Browser or playstore don't you notice one side slightly delaying, making lines and Text slightly bending? It's hard to notice tough
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
I'm looking and looking and can't see this effect.

I have 128/8GB edition.

Even if it's there, the fact that I can't see it makes it non issue for me.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] hitexlt:
I started noticing this jello effect too. Especially when scrolling in landscape mode.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wedgess:
I've been checking in both orientations the last 20minutes and honestly can't see anything, tried out multiple apps as well. If I can't notice it at this stage then I don't think it will bother me.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] martinezma99:
I see the jittery on OP video. I can't really tell on my OP5. I did the same thing on Pixel XL and it looks the same as OP5.

Could this be specific to certain phones?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
If it's only on some devices. It's Hardware related. And I have General touch issues. Sometimes the Panel doesn't fully recognize a swipe action

Guy can someone reproduce the following. Try to swipe up the App drawer as soon as the screen is unlocked using Fingerprint Scanner (while screen is off) or go to an App where you can scroll. Turn off screen and try to scroll as soon the screen is unlocked with FP Sensor. For me it fails scrolling most of the time. This device is definely going back if these issues don't get fixed within the 15 days I have
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] martinezma99:
Can someone test Jello/Wave effect on XDA app? Can you see it on XDA app? Also, on Twitter app.

Scrolling is really smooth for me on Twitter and XDA app.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] asecretgate:
I noticed this immediately. At first, I thought it was just a result of low touch latency, but I guess I'm wrong. It would be nice not to have this...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] nadejo:
Omg scrolling fails so many times

Guys I seriously want my oneplus3t back.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ddalex:
I think it is not hardware - the camera app and YouTube videos do not show any jello effect when flashing the screen, which should happen if the problem was in hardware.

I think it may be a bad implementation of a kinetic/inertial scrolling, coupled with trying to reduce latency improvements in the display server.

Should go away with an update, or with Lineage, should the 'improvement' be limited to Oneplus - quick Google shows similar issues on the Pixel.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
If it happening in TWRP it's hardware. The fact eng.stk has found his panel installed upside down is concerning.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZakooZ:
Have you tried disabling the hardware composer? (AKA enabling 'force GPU 2D rendering' in developer settings)

Not necessarily a hardware issue, probably a miscalibration of hardware composer sync which runs in the kernel
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lou2s:
Have been using mine for 4 days quite extensively, no such problem spotted. It should not be hard to notice, right? As I have been scrolling in various apps. :cyclops:
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
I post this for the display jello effect...
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] John Woot:
Oh ok, I can see some when he scrolls the apps in OP 5 but more like a rebound not as jelly as other videos, it has the effect, not starting games, 3T doesn't . Has anyone seen if the UI of games while game playing has jelly effect? Like scrolling an inventory in a mmo. I do not think that starting games is very representative in that sense, in any case would be the interaction with the interface of the game and its windows for example.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] emilrune:
LOL that's some corny **** mate:highfive:

Also this issue is imo blown way out of proportion. Agree that the mounted upside down engineering is a bit daft, I just don't see the big whoop over this - if you're completely annoyed by it, return it within your 15-day period as you're within your rights to do so?
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Samsung did a global recall of the Note 7 and pulled the phone from the market , what are you talking about? OP are denying this issue even exists and are calling it "natural". A complete f*** up of engineering and totally unacceptable.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
Can you even read what i said? Who wouldn't recall a phone that is a potential bomb and is life threatening? Infact Samsung recalled and didn't even sort out the mess in 1st turn. Gave potential bombs in hands of customers again. When even the new units started bombing they scrapped the phone altogether.

If you are here just to troll, poor me that i even cared to reply to you
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] croques:
Don't worry, everyone, the 5T will fix it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chaplan:
Nothing new.

If the video was recorded with the 3T physically rotated 180° they both would show the same jelly effect.

It's the assembly.

180° rotation of the device on the 3/T will show jelly.

180° rotation of the device on the 5 will show no jelly.

The fact that we see it rotating the 3/3T is the proof that 180° rotation assembly is the culprit.

And that's about it.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Samsung thought they had fixed the problem when they hadn't. When they found out again, they recalled the phone. One Plus are completely denying there's a problem. Why would their engineering department install the screen upside down when every other phone maker installs it correctly?! It's crazy from them, poor phone design and now they just deny the problem. The phone will die like the OP2 and hopefully OP will learn a lesson.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi Dahiya:
What about the red tinted screens of S8/S8+ ? Samsung blatantly refused to accept it as an issue. And Most companies act like this only when they can get away with the ****.

Yes, a poor engineering design choice on OnePlus part but neither a QC issue or defect. Anyways OnePlus will have to find a solution to this otherwise it will continue to bug people.
[OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Elnrik:
I have found the solution to the upside-down screen issue! A simple inversion technique.

http://www.grand-illusions.com/acatalog/Reversing_Goggles.html

So simple.