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[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] LeKeiser:
Camera is great here and I see no lag no stutter on my O+5

this thread looks more like flame war towards the O+5 than anything else.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Just took 3 photos, Nexus 6p,Huawei mate 9 & OP5, the attachments have been compressed by xda, original sizes roughly were 4.5mb for nexus & mate 9, and over 7mb for OP5.

1. Nexus 6p

2. Mate 9

3. OP5
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] LeKeiser:
if I were you, I wouldn't say which phone took which picture so people wouldn't be influenced and say "Oh yeah, this one is bad because it comes from that phone!"

I like the O+5 picture myself, lots of colors, very detailed, and... but I'm no photographer :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gee2012:
The camera is great imo and a significant improvement over the 3T. Close up and regular photo`s look crisp and surely not blurry. A bit of a steady hand may help too to take good pics.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] hitexlt:
Mine does not do that either. It is buttery smooth without any or jello effects neither in chrome nor in app drawer.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] einermusstot:
First things first. Camera and everything is working as expected. And are great so far. (I absolutely adore the camera!) Don't know about that WiFi problem. But I also experience the jello effect from time to time. I think it's a software issue which could be patched out. Hopefully it will vanish in a couple of days. And I also guess some people won't see it. It is annoying as hell when reading articles.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] aygul12345:
This is from SMOOTH, the HTC 11 doesnt have this crap. Is this a screen problem or a batch probleem?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] einermusstot:
I would guess it is software wise, in the oneplus forums one guy blames it on the vsync turned off. could be.

Also there is the second Oxygen OS update rolling out right now.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
The second update hasn't fixed it either or the auto focusing issue.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] benschhold:
In kernel source code i can see they commented out code for tear-check-sync, so thats propably why this happens
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Ot does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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It does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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It does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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It does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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It does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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It does very much sound like vsync is disabled, that's ridiculous for a 2017 phone, I've reported this to the devs.

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Wow sorry for the god knows how many posts, xda went down lol.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] einermusstot:
Hey Guys, I spoke with customer support, and they want to do a remote diagnosis. I have an appointment with a technician on Tuesday 5am EST. So we will see how this turns out. I guess we will flash a new image on the phone and see if the issues persists. I will keep you updated.

PS: I already did a factory reset twice. Didn't work. So maybe it will work on Tuesday.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Good to know, is this regarding the rolling wobbly stuttering scrolling issue ? And thanks
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] thefiqs:
I have the phone since friday. Can not reproduce this scrolling bug. No WiFi issues so far and I like the camera. ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] MrMeeseeks:
The Op5 looks oversaturated. That can be fixed though.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Eric214:
I don't have the phone yet, (looking to buy on Tuesday) but this jello issue doesnt seem to be hitting everyone. Only 1 reviewer noticed this and I've seen probably 10 YouTube vids that this cant be seen in. Even on a 29 inch 2k monitor that I have on full screen. I've gone back and looked very closely and cant discern any jello ish issues. I saw the vids posted in this post showing the jello shake, I just think this is maybe a bad batch of phone.

Time will tell once more ppl get there phones later this coming week. I hope all that have this issue get it sorted out soon with maybe an update.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kimw:
Thank god I'm not the only one noticing that straight away. It pretty much ruined my experience since I got this phone. At first a thought its just me beeing OCD again and checking the screen for failures far too often.

It's hard to not see it when scrolling and it is very irritating!

Like a Jello / Wobble / Warping effect.

This needs to be addressed asap!

As for stuttering: mine doesn't stutter / hang at all. Scrolls like butter. Perfect if there wasn't this Jello Effect thing.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ramisto:
I have it too. And I haven't seen this behaviour since my Note8 (reported at that time too in XDA forums). Just got my phone today I'm already sorry buying it: cannot seek through any song in Google Play Music, auto WB makes grey clothes look bluish and now this woobling effect.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] hitexlt:
I think I am starting to notice this jello effect on my phone too. It is very subtle, but as you know - what has been seen cannot be unseen...
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ddalex:
I have it too :(. I think the developers tried to emulate the buttery iPhone scrolling, but got the screen update wrong. I think it happens only on some devices because it's an A/B test. In a previous life I worked on developing Android devices, and this was a common type of 'feature' management asked for.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] hitexlt:
Is the effect very strong? Maybe only few people notice this, because I think I am one of them. Firstly I hadn't noticed it at all, but now am starting to see it. It is very subtle for me.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ddalex:
The effect is quite noticeable for me.

Anybody here willing to experiment, can you please go to settings advanced and then tick enable user experience. Reboot the phone and see if you can still see the effect.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kimw:
I noticed it straight away.. 5 minutes in. Been using the phone since Friday now and I am not able to deal with it / not see it. It's very frustrating for me. Kinda makes me motion sick.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
I am going to give you the official OnePlus solution. Just scroll slower :victory:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kimw:
You don't have to scroll fast to reproduce this effect. It's noticable when scrolling like normal as well. :silly::eek:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
I had the very same issue on an S7.

For me it was fixed using Adaway and root. Seems to be back ground data loading from advertising.

Defo worth a try if your rooted.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
That's a new feature for a phone in 2017 :laugh:

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Nah the real response from oneplus will be, we are working on it... Then the 5t will come out and they will be like it's fixed you just have to buy the 5t.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] nadejo:
I still got faith in oneplus. Im sure they will fix the screen related issues somehow.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] dlads:
That's the screens refresh rate, drawing each frame.

It's possible only certain people can pick up on it.

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If I get my phone and it's got one of the reported issues is going back for a refund, I gave them a chance but these are rookie mistakes that companies should not make. Doesn't inspire confidence.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] nadejo:
Any Statement from oneplus yet?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gohan040:
Thank god i'm not the only one... Glad i found this tread.

I noticed this straight away. At first i was thinking it was some kind of transition effect. So i turned off everything in dev settings. That didn't help.

At some point i was thinking it was something in my display that was broken, but when not scrolling everything was fine. Hope this gets resolved fast because it makes me almost motion sick.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Saint787:
I scroll down settings side by side with my old nexus 5 and OP 5. Nexus 5 flies yet OP5 struggles to draw the next frame. Scrolling is one of the hardest thing to do for a GPU but for a hw like this even if you have no idea what you are doing it is very hard to mess it up to this level. My educated guess is frame rate drops below 20fps during scrolling. This is like putting a Ferrari engine to a Corolla and it is slower than a Yaris. It is the same for the camera. Very good hardware mediocre results (compared to lower hw phones like pixel). They just don't put enough resources to sw, not even close to who they claim to compete. I may return this phone. My eyes are already sore with all that flashing during scrolling.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Elsydeon:
I don't know if this is the same problem others are experiencing, but I noticed right off the bat upon scrolling on my OP5 that there's almost like some sort of weird optical effect going on as the screen goes upward or downward. It's almost as if as it goes up, there's a slight sense of what's on the screen getting elongated, and as you scroll back down, it shrinks back to normal size. Almost like a funhouse mirror rubberbanding effect. I thought maybe it had something to do with the angle I was holding the phone's screen or something, but it's not that. It's slightly disorienting and even a tad nauseous watching it do this, and I've NEVER seen this effect on any other Android phone I've owned before.

The scrolling itself is perfectly smooth as far as I can tell on mine, it doesn't break up or anything, and it certainly doesn't slow down or turn into jello in any way. Just that weird sense of elongation of the screen elements.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kimw:
That's exactly what we are talking about.

Many would best describe this optical effect as Jello / Rolling Shutter. It has nothing to do with lag or not beeing smooth.

Thanks for your description. Most accurate description so far.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
Mine's not having any problems. All animations are smooth
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] omrij:
Anyone tried H2OS to see if it's happening there as well?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
How is this possible that OP3/3t doesn't have this issue..?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
Because they're different phones with different SOCs and also the panel is inverted on the OP5.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
Inverted panel??...wtf!...why?..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] alan sh:
I don't get this effect on mine, but I have turned off all animation (developer options). I do it on all my phones ( don't like the bouncing stuff)

Maybe that will cure yours?

Alan
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] EVR_PR:
Could the fact that the 5 drops frames like a champ be related to this issue? If you turn on GPU profile rendering on in Developer Settings, it looks like a roller coaster ride, whereas the 3T was almost a straight line.

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It makes no difference because it's not an animation scaling issue.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=72813430
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] davfiala:
Can you tell us what's wrong with that? Why it should be an issue?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Wiesi21:
This has todo with the amoled panel in use, and how it gets refreshed. The "problem" also exists on the 3/3T and even the X.

It also exists on my Nokia Lumia 930 Work phone with amoled.

If you had the 3/3T or X and never noticed it, stop looking for problems, that don't exist for you. If you noticed it yourself an are annoyed, than return it, because I don't believe there ist a software solution to this.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] nadejo:
I had the op3&3t and they don't have this issue.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Wiesi21:
Have my 3T in my hands at the moment and it surely has this problem.

I'm speaking of the mentioned jello effect, where fast changes to the scrolling direction result in a wave-like wobbling. This ist best seen in the Play Store with the horizontal lines.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ddalex:
I just had this chat with support.

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I guess will just wait for 12 days. I am slightly annoyed being a beta-tester for a 500 GBP phone, but that's ok if the jello display is fixed. If not, that's a deal breaker for me.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] nadejo:
The thing is some of us don't have 12 days left :/ the Touchscreen missresponding sometimes while scrolling is another issue.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ddalex:
Well, I would suggest returning during your grace period if you are not happy with the product - this is one of the few ways where consumers can make an impact: vote with your wallet. I will not hesitate to return within my grace period if the issue is not fixed, I will not reward a company building a shoddy product with my money.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rauttis:
It's very noticeable on my OP5 also, my OP3 had none of these issues. The tearing / jello effect is very noticeable when scrolling in any direction. Will be returning mine in 10 days also if there is no update / official word for this by then. Not taking the chances of this being a hardware issue and oneplus refusing RMA after the initial 15 day period.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
The scrolling issue could be possibly linked to a different batch of phones.

Please take part in poll

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/help/scrolling-issue-t3628132
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Ok just got this from the bug hunters, sounds to me like they are trying to bail on this issue already and personally i think it's a panel issue, I'm just asking how long have i got after my 15 day grace period before i can send it back for a refund...

Dear OnePlus User,

Thank you for the confirmation, it has already been endorsed to the Tech team. We'll keep in touch and let you know if there is an update, although, I'm going to set your expectation that we do not have a turn around time time as to when ourTech team will arrive at a conclusion for this issue and not all bug reports can be fixed, but we'll do our best.

Kind regards,

OnePlus Bug Hunters
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
That's the exact same thing I'm thinking of. I think that the panels are faulty on OP5's manufactured on 09/06
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Saint787:
I can verify that mine does not have a jelly effect but a stutter effect during scrolling. Almost like a 10 year old phone trying to run Android N (well maybe exaggerating). Maybe we are mixing two separate issues here? And yes GPU profiling is a roller coaster. My black 3T had none of these issues (the later black version).
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
I have a 6/6 phone that i picked up today and would love to check out the problems people are talking about, but i gotta admit, even after watching some videos and clips i still have no clue what the issue is, stuttering is one thing, but the jelly effect?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ram4ufriends:
Even if you return in your grace period...you lose 15% money as OnePlus would only refund 85% money..

Edit: Sorry 100% returned if the phone is not damaged
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] dreinulldrei:
Yeah, but since you scroll up AND down that should not make much of a difference.

Intra-panel serial speeds are so high, you should not notice the panel's processing speed.

Unless it's a faulty batch, these problems are likely driver (firmware) related. What wonders me is that some don't see it. But then again there are people that can enjoy DLP projectors, whereas I see rainbows. So....
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Mine was manufactured on 08/06
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
Mines 6/6 too and I haven't experienced issues with this stuttering and jelly, not gonna lie I haven't had a single problem with it and I'm a heavy user and know what's what.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] omrij:
How do you check panel manufacture date?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] alan sh:
Where do you find the manufacture date?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Not if it's a hardware fault, which as far as I'm concerned until they can prove it otherwise via a fix then it's a hardware issue, there shouldn't be any jelly effect or stuttering when you first access the screen, there are 2 issues with the screen from what i can tell.

A phone of this spec should be flying through android, as for those that say they have no issues or can't see, I'd like to see that for myself, I'm sensitive to stuff like refresh rates and tearing etc.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
https://gfycat.com/GratefulEvergreenBluefintuna Not a clip from me, but just wanted to figure out what the "jelly effect" is, is it the fact that the screen seems to be lacking behind when scrolling? Thats the only issue i really see on that.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rauttis:
This is the best video I've seen of the issue. See how the upper part of the screen is updating later than the bottom part, creating this weird "jelly" effect?

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=ZXZMSVRTeGdqX2luMEdXeFdkSnNiMGo2X3dRQk5R
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Kahun:
I just tested and that doesn't seem to happen to mine. Still I wouldn't complain if that was happening it's not noticeable and just looks like it's part of the animation.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ddalex:
How do you check the manufacturing date?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] casual_kikoo:
Apparently, on the box.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gohan040:
I have it from the first sec I used the phone. I can tell u, it's really annoying and almost making u kind off motion sick at some point. At first I thought it was some kind of transition effect but it's clearly not. It is noticeable, very noticeable! I bet u would be complaining like a lot of other people are doing. I hope OnePlus solves this very fast otherwise people are gonna send there phones back before there 15 day period is over. It's just not acceptable for a phone with this pricetag. It's not a beginning company anymore and they don't ask a budget price like they did with there first phones. There are already 3 updates in 5 days, u can say that's a good thing, u can also say that the phone is badly tested and needs all these updates. I'm a user after all , not a alpha or beta tester.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Just realised since 4.5.3 they've ****ed up focusing on 1080p 60fps video, go try it, it doesn't focus anymore, this was fine with 4.5.2, what a balls up!

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Mate i genuinely believe the people that say they can't see it is doing it on their phone they just can't see it with their eyes, this will be a problem with every single OP5 manufactured to date.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonnyn93:
I really want some acknowledgement from oneplus on this issue. If they ignore it completely then we know its hardware issue and they cant fix it. Its a deal breaker for me, I notice it every time now! :( I'm so upset, I've been into oneplus since the beginning, but now......
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
Havent seen any official statement from them, but havent they replied to alot of people saying that the developers are looking into the problem? I dont know that much about software, but it would also seem strange that some people have the problem and some dont, that seems to lean more towards a bad batch of phones or something, i mean if its an OS problem wouldnt everyone experience it?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonnyn93:
I think it's more likely that people aren't even noticing it yet. A lot of people say they didn't at first but then once they see it, they can't unsee it. I'll pop into my local phone shop and have a look at their display models.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Elsydeon:
To be fair, I did also think too that the effect was a part of the scrolling animation, as though it were an attempt to make it stand out everywhere you scroll. Kind of like how launchers sometimes add funky effects for when you switch home screen pages. But if that were the case, it would've been much appreciated if there were an off switch for it, like there usually is for animation effects.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
I have tried hard to notice it and i just cant see it, scrolling in chrome, scrolling in the twitter app etc. If there is software out there that can capture the phone ill be happy to do some tests, i do not have another camera to capture the OP5 with :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] kimw:
You can't capture a faulty screen unit / firmware hardware combination with a software tool. My guess is that you don't know what to look for exactly. If so then please stop checking anything and just enjoy your phone cause once you see it it can't be unseen.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonnyn93:
I've just tried it on my device, captured a 1080p 60fps file. Can't see the jelly effect at all, so strange. definitely something to do with either the display, or the controller used to drive the display. Can you check something for me. Boot into fastboot and tell me what your device is called, mines "QC Reference phone"
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
Same shows QC_reference_phone in fastboot
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] hitexlt:
Whoah, this is some serious jelly effect. I thought I have this problem too, but this effect is very subtle on mine.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonnyn93:
Cheers! I'm going to mess around with some ROMs and flash a new Kernel. see if theres any difference.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hemanse:
Would love to hear if theres any difference, only thing i heard was people that had the problem didnt when they booted into twrp. Think im gonna go check out a couple of other phones downtown, they both sell the 3T and 5, just wanna see if i can notice it on any of those.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonnyn93:
I have a 3T in the house too. Once the owner gets home I will compare.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ReyTheBoss:
that's the thing i've been waiting to see all day bro , i don't have the phone yet or else i would've done it myself

try the roms and kernels and see if there's any difference

Plus can someone please regroupe all the noticed faults and problems ? :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:

because i got pretty overwhelmed by seing so much bugs and specially since i don't have it in hand to actually see the bugs directly , and i'm also new to XDA... so someone please do that , for an effort to fix em all maybe ? ( just being optimistic here :p ) because that phone could've been a gem without all this bs .