yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Nick James:
I think I'm going to keep the phone after all and here is why-

Think about all the issue with the original OPO. They had screen issues too and firmware issues, etc. All this hype died down and things got ironed out. That was when I bought the phone and the OPO has been great ever since (other than the 4 year old camera not being up to par with the latest technology but it got the job done).

My OPO running a custom ROM is actually just as smooth as the OP5 and I honestly thought the OP5 would be much quicker/faster in terms of some of the apps that were loading slow. Turns out, those apps are probably just poorly coded?

That Jelly screen effect-- yeah whatever-- I'm not seeing it and I'm not going to get convinced that I need to see it.

When more development and firmware upgrades are released as they've always historically done, this phone is only going to get better. For $539 its still cheaper than all the iPhones and the last Android devices that compare to this. I *will not* buy a Samsung ever again. I'd buy an iPhone before buying Samsung.

That said, I'm going to be patient and wait for LOS and Resurrection Remix. I didn't buy the phone for OxygenOS afterall. I bought it for the support here on XDA and I bought it because the hardware platform is affordable and yet a beast.

The camera is still a big upgrade for me and its been taking some great shots
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hastaloego:
got mine 2 days ago and see no reasons to return it yet
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] vision33r:
Contemplating selling it or just return it. I think they need to take the flagship killer moniker away. I had the OP3 for about 6 month then moved over to the V20, just had the LG G6 for about 3 months, and then got the S7 Edge. I got the OP5 thinking it maybe a bigger upgrade from the OP3. It's overall not much of an upgrade over the OP3 in terms of usability. It's faster and snappier but OP3 wasn't ever laggy.

I think the biggest omission here is the battery life, I was expecting big improvements here but I think it's about the same which is not good when the price is much higher. After the V20 and G6, I don't think the camera on the OP5 was awful but it's software is still behind LG and Samsung. Why don't they just acquire another app on the Play Store and then put OIS? The AF is still an issue but I think that could be fixed but should be fixed already since it has always been an issue for all of OP devices.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Supersaiyan.IV:
ITT: People returning their Oneplus 5 before updates/fixes get rolled out. [/thread]
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Han-Droid:
...yeah, but how can an update fix a hardware related screen problem??!

I think those people returning their devices are doing the community a big favor. It might just encourage OP to do better! ;)

The more people are returning the higher the pressure....my two cents...
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] spielnicht:
I didn't see any updates come in today. What build number do you have?

It's not that I'm "crazy" about getting a Samsung, but yes, their camera, even if a single lens, is folds better. I feel like an idiot for falling for OP's marketing about their new camera. I can't take a single picture of my kids in focus. Lack of OIS is a major let down. No wonder the whole working with DxOMark marketing stunt died silently and a rating isn't even available.

My other grip with the OP5 is that they haven't refined their haptic feedback at all. I love that it's strong when the phone rings, but I don't need it to be that strong for everything else, especially typing.

Finally, I didn't realize how nice waterproofing is until my wife took her iPhone to the pool and I couldn't.

Not specific to OP, but damn Samsung Pay is years ahead of Android Pay. I miss MST support and the deep integration with banks.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Han-Droid:
For those in doubt..this guy sums it all up:

https://9to5google.com/2017/06/29/c...g-on-the-oneplus-5-is-enough-to-keep-me-away/

I still have sympathies for oneplus but I don't get their ignorance on user's justified complaints!!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
I like the part where says he hasn't used the phone yet
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Han-Droid:
Well, sometimes you don't have to be at the northpole to imagine how f#ing cold it is there. And no-one can doubt it :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Some people have a very vivid imagination to?,l thought it might be better to experience something yourself before your start giving it a bad press. Though that doesn't include openplus there customer service policy is shocking???
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] :
I'm sure to keep my OnePlus 5 - because it's the best phone I've ever seen (I used OP3t before).

I wonder, how you guys behave when unboxing new phones - try to do it without a hammer :cool:

My OnePlus 5 has no issues (I'm using it for 10 days now).

OK, the camera needs someone, who understands how to deal with it. Such a small sensor and just a simple small lens will never replace a solid Camera. If you think about the physical conditions: All that smartphone-designer could do, is creating software, that makes better photos out of the poor source the small lens and the small sensor delivers. So there will be "clearer photos" for most situations, but not for all. All in all the OP5 camera empowers you to make great shots!

I love my OnePlus 5 and I can't wait, what coming updates will bring. As soon as a LineageOS ROM will be available, I will migrate mine to the (google-)free alternative OS

Have fun & stay tuned!

Greets from Gelsenkirchen :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] tbaran:
Getting back to this thread after a while and... It's funny how the poll results are influenced by newer findings and opinions. :) Around page 10, maybe 13 of this thread the majority of people where returning their unit for camera reason (that's where the bad camera quality was on top), after page 25 we have moved into "display reason" (after the jelly fish scrolling and reverse display mounting was unleashed).

I don't like to be biased on others opinions. And after 12 days of everyday usage, I have to say the device is great. No scrolling issues on my side, no battery drains, the stereo works great despite of phone orientation, camera is really not bad comparing to other phones. Yeah, there could be OIS and a tad better low light handling. But at this price point no other competitor does a better job so far. Keeping mine ;)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gee2012:
Amen to that and the same for me :good:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Vangelis13:
Same here. It'll be a beast within 2-3 updates.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
[MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION] from the Trinity days ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Vangelis13:
Good memory..! ☺️??
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jonathan.Parker2005:
Holy Moly, this thread is surreal.

I came from a OP3 and I have a HTC V10 also and the difference between this phone and them is astounding. The V10 is annoying slow to be on now. Yeah, it's driving more pixels but jeez. I haven't really noticed anything with the camera but I don't buy a phone for the camera anyway. It's a bonus to me but I can understand why it upset some people. I didn't read anyone saying the reception had improve, at least as far as i can tell between my OP3 and the OP5. My WiFi is faster and more stable as is my LTE connection. I did have an issue with the default APN for T-Mobile but I just added a new APN and it's been working like a charm since. Not had any GPS issues. It's certainly been accurate to within 5m for me. Screen looks good. Battery is good.

The one thing I will say is I don't think the improvements are the worth the price increase. We shouldn't be paying more than 430 for the 128GB version. This phone is basically paying for OnePlus to expand their infrastructure for future releases. I think because of this they have to be very careful with the pricing. There is no doubt that OnePlus has sh*tty customer service. As I said a call a couple of weeks back they are the nicest but worst customer service in the world. They are literally the same as someone telling you how great you are while they are stealing your wallet. I ended up getting an extra device because of an issue on their website, that they charged me for. And BTW, you can't cancel because the warehouse is going to dispatch it in a week or so, just refuse the package. That's a problem when you live in a high rise where you literally pay someone to receive all your packages for you. Luckily I just sold it to a mate.

However, I digress, OP makes fairly great devices and Oxygen isn't that bad. They need to work a little closer with Google and there have been some issues in Vanilla Nougat that got patched pretty quickly by Google but hung on for a while in Oxygen, specially Blue Tooth problems. Other than that, I'm happy and this phone was still way cheaper than any other Unlocked flagship right now. They do need to watch it though as they are getting close to premium Huawei prices.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Ph0enix_216:
I honestly don't see any good reason to return this phone — it's honestly one of the best smartphone experiences I've ever had, and that's after upgrading from a OnePlus 3. I don't get what the deal is with the hate train on the OnePlus 5 — it's a beautiful phone, and the specs are enough to give any other phone a run for their money for at least two years. Is the camera as amazing as OnePlus hyped it up to be? No, but so what? It's still a great camera, and honestly, if you want to take photos that look as good as a DSLR camera, then go out and by a DSLR camera.

I also don't get why everyone's p!ssed about the fact that it isn't waterproof and the fact that it lacks an SD card slot. Honestly, what do you really need waterproofing for? If you don't want to drop it in the water, don't put yourself in a position where you'll end up dropping it in water in the first place. As for the SD card, who cares? An SD card slot would have been nice, yeah, but 64GB and 128GB is still pretty beefy.

This is just my two cents. TLDR, I love this phone, and I think most of the arguments I've seen for returning this phone are flat out ridiculous.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] BoboBrazil:
I think people are mostly mad about the jelly screen issue. Also they hyped up the camera and put in a dual camera setup at the expense of several other things, only to deliver a very mediocre camera with no ois. Then of course there is a cost increase at the same time these other issues are happening. I don't see anyone complaining really about lack of waterproofing or sd card.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Symphony0fLife:
No way. My only complaint about the OnePlus 5 is that it didn't come out in time for me to return my Galaxy S8+.

I can't find a thing wrong with it. I hear about the jelly issue, but I'm not one to scroll up and down repeatedly as fast as I can just to see a problem that isn't really a problem. Literally no one uses their device like that real world when actually reading on the screen. Or as some had to do to see it, to film themselves doing so and watch it in slow motion just so they can see it and imagine it an issue in day to day use. Camera is good, great even. I literally can't tell a difference between my OnePlus 5's auto mode snapshots and my Galaxy S8+'s auto mode snapshots. The only time I can tell a difference is when I get into pro mode and really try to do DSLR type work with it. And in that event they're both frustrating as **** to use and neither pulls it off at all. Their sole problem there is that they hyped it up to be something that it can never be at this price point. It doesn't even have OIS. It's a great point and shoot camera but I don't get why they made it the total focus of their marketing when that's all it is.

Had they hyped the phone to be what it is - a spec monster that runs virtually stock android with none of the flagship bloat, stutters, gimmicks and duplicate apps with a great mid level camera in an attractive package they would be suffering no backlash. They tried to do too much to appease morons who think they want a OnePlus when they actually want a top tier thousand dollar flagship rather than sticking to the mission and doing what the OnePlus made it's name doing. Those people do not now and will not ever want a OnePlus. They want OnePlus to be another Samsung. So OnePlus should just tell them to **** off and buy a Samsung, LG, HTC, whatever.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] paulyz:
500 eur for phone without camera, you kidding? :D
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
I know you get 2 it's amazing ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] paulyz:
Two stickers on body where written "camera" :D
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
You have 2 tattoos that say camera nice?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
:rolleyes:

I had to pay the shipping fee to return my defective device, and I still have not receive my new unit as yet..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
What was the defect?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
The volume rocker button popped out/came off after about 6 hours of use! See link below!

https://goo.gl/photos/y31bNjLKohKxc62G9
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Symphony0fLife:
Ouch, that's pretty bad!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
Yep, what's worst is the RMA process, I never had to RMA anything back to OP before, pray you don't :eek:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
Why is everyone putting up with little to no QA on this device? I didn't have the jelly effect but still returned the phone because I couldn't trust it to last
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Han-Droid:
In this thread people seem to be split into "keepers" and "returners". That is fine, but they start to kinda fight each other....that is not fine.

It's "natural" that customers want to be "confirmed". They want to be happy about their purchases. This seems to blind them. They desperately deny the facts.... Well, you can't blame them.

The only one to blame is the onePLUS. The company hyped everything about the OP5 and that is probably a reason why people are disappointed that much. Day by day new bugs and annoyances pop up. Don't fight each other but don't let your enthusiasm for your new toy blind you!

You like the 5? Keep it.

You dislike it? Don't hope for fixes! You just don't hope for a fix after spending >500.

Fair enough..OP offers the 15day return.

One thing is a little strange.... happy customers a very silent (usually) and unhappy customers want to "be heard" (hello internet! :)

So I'd question those people who are 100% happy, have NO problems and KEEP WRITING this on the internet plus trying to convince others. But that is only my impression.... :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Symphony0fLife:
True enough most of the time. People sometimes do that though because they see some folks blowing things out of proportion or entirely making things up that may put others off an otherwise great product.

Anyone that comes online to bash a product 100% is generally full of **** and on a mission. Same with anyone that says 100% there are no potential flaws or shortcomings.

In this case the product is great. OnePlus just made the mistake of overhyping trying to appease some morons that wanted everything for half the price and in that effort, caused disappointment where none would have existed had they just been honest about what the phone is.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] JelloB:
This is the best phone I've ever had, hands down. I have no perceivable jelly effect. Camera? I've never understood the obsession with camera quality. I could give a rip, honestly. I think I took less than fifty pictures with my Note 4 in the 3 years I had it. I'm just not a picture guy.

Is everybody on phone forums an amateur Ansel Adams? I've honestly never understood how the difference in one of these phone cameras could be the make or break point for anybody unless it's like your job to take pictures with your phone. But maybe that's just me. In my opinion, all new phones have suitable cameras. It's all the other amazing hardware that I'm looking for and this phone knocks that out of the park.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Maybe, but the phone is good oneplus as a company, trying to offer good customer relations are a complete joke. They constantly insult the intelligence of there customers and selling this phone to the masses as a camera phone dumb idea.

But what pisses me off are people coming on XDA putting others off this amazing nexus replacement ?

---------- Post added at 05:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:37 PM ----------

Damm! That's not good you deserve a free case and screen protector for that ****?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
That, plus a whole lot more! But right now, I don't think I wanna keep it when I do get it back ~
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Why not if you don't mind me asking?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
I'M just frustrated right now, OP needs to remedy this situation...It's all about the experience for me, and that's ruin at this point.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Yeah l can see how you feel that way having to deal with op customer services
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
Returned because the volume button just came off from its position. Getting a new one OnePlus 5.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] martinezma99:
Returned because camera was just not good enough for me. I'm back to my Pixel XL. You will be missed OP5! ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] vision33r:
Kinda suck that I can't find a powerful phone with a great screen, great battery life, and a great camera.

The S8 is the closest right now, I thought the OP5 would get to 7/10 of the S8 but the camera is a let down.

I was shooting pics all last week and find the results to be inconsistent at times with the OIS struggling at various shots. Coming from S7E, HTC 10 where I was just randomly shooting and rarely get any blurry pics the OP5 was blurrier 1/2 the time. With burst I can find a sharper pic at the cost of having to sort out pics to keep.

C'mon OP, the dual camera is another gimmick. If you can't get the normal lens working great why add another lens? My HTC 10 from last year still beats the OP5 in image quality every shot.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] paulyz:
True. Why scream half year "we will put great camera", but finally put peace of shi*, oh, no, two peaces of shi*
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Symphony0fLife:
To be honest it knocks the **** out of my S8+. That thing sent me running to OnePlus. Got an S8+ for sale if you want it [emoji23]
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] parusia:
There I can see you are lying to yourself. I have OnePlus 5, Galaxy S8 plus, Huawei Mate 9 Pro, LG G6, Galaxy S7 edge, and the HTC U11, I love the OnePlus 5 but saying that the OnePlus 5 is better than the Galaxy S8+ is pure lie.

On the camera department I compared all these phones, and to be honest the best on the camera area is the Galaxy S8 plus, following by HTC U11, Galaxy S7 edge, LG G6, OnePlus 5, and at last my beloved Huawei mate 9 Pro.

I love Android phones, but sometimes here at OnePlus forums some members act like Fanboys.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] goingonstrong2:
Not me, I'm loving it
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
You know the op5 isn't just a camera right?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] BoboBrazil:
Returned mine and went with htc u11 due to jelly effect. U11 has much nicer display and camera.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] parusia:
I know, that is why I keeping mine. But saying that the OnePlus 5 is better than the Galaxy S8 plus it's just a joke.

I love how fast the OnePlus 5 is, how the OnePlus 5 managed RAM, but faster and better are 2 different things.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Does the Samsung have a better camera with better developed software yes no doubt.

Is Samsung slower with lesser ram yes is it full of bloatware yes does it uses Knox yes l can go on.

I think you can see it 2 ways?does op customer service suck yes! both are right depending on your opinion and requirements.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
Had the same issue , still waiting for my replacement unit....
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] rouyal:
Maybe that's why a lot of people are saying they don't see it. That's not how jelly screen works. It shows itself in like scrolling through a site normally. It's not as bad as that eccentric video, but still annoying and I noticed it the most on the top 1/3 of the screen.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
I will buy a new one, I've not asked a replacement.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] vision33r:
If your usage is simple, then OP5 is definitely faster than the S8+ but these phones are all pretty fast. But on camera quality, the OP5 is not even close to the HTC 10, S7, or S8. Last year's HTC 10 is still kicking butt.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] DSF:
It depends what you need. For example i need a good app experience, proper ram management, speed and good battery with (improved) stock Android experience. Camera and display are not top priority for me. And also starting to hate the back glass so much. Not to mention i don't like the screen edges, round corners, weird aspect ratio. A trend i personally hate (ergonomics, glare, fragility, usability).

Of course that things like ois, ip68, microsd support, sp02 sensor are handy stuff.. but we cannot have them all it seems.

So for me the best phone is the one that performs the best, with the best ram management you can get.. all on good battery life.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] carlese:
I don't know if I should get a replacement, but my phone runs really hot these days, I live in Italy so temperature is 32° Celsius outside, not that much to cause this massive overheating.. And the battery is awful, 3h SOT while everyone here gets 6 hours or even 10..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Could you do a screen shot of your battery stats?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] carlese:
Here you are.. I can barely hold the phone in my hands, and every time I turn the screen on I lose 1/3% with the usage you see, Tapatalk, Facebook or whatsapp..
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
Is your phone rooted?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] carlese:
Yes, better battery stats shows this:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] a g bell:
If it was my phone l would hard reset to stock and see then
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] carlese:
I did it yesterday because it was draining with freedom os, but nothing changed so I think I'm going to rma it, let's see with a new unit, but now I don't have the jelly effect, maybe with the new one I will have it.. Its a risk!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
Cheers! :good: I bought mine during the drop sale, but maybe I should have done that, the whole process would have been much quicker.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
I also bought during drop sale. No I'll just buy a new one

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
I've already engaged support for a replacement unit, I really don't feel the need at this point to buy another one, wait for the replacement, then to return it. If I'm having this much trouble getting a replacement, I could only image trying to get a refund. :laugh: Which one did you get the 6/64 or 8/128? I got the 8/128....
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
In Europe the refund is simple, they have to do that. Without explanation. 8gb version.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Urbanrootz:
I would get a refund, its just it would be some crazy process like the RMA process and take forever, don't need the headache. Yep the 8gb version!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] robertogl:
I think the refund is simpler, because you don't have to have any problem. You just give back the phone and they give back the money. If i'd go for the replacement, i should have explain also the problem, they should have check that...