yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
HTC Cruise was reported as working by several users. Touch HD is supported too (made a quick test).

It depends on the Bluetooth Stack. There are only two BT Stack - MS Stack and Widcomm Stack. If you own the device, you can check the Bluetooth Stack by opening BT Manager (Widcomm Stack has About screen and has different menu style).

smartWatchM works with MS BT Stack flawlessly. Widcomm can be configured to work over COM ports (SE MBW only) but the connection isn't much stable.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tuo_kaerf:
Thanks for ther answer. It's getting a little bit confused now.

I don't have an about screen (which points to MS), although I can configure COM ports (which points to Widcomm).

Which BT stack do I have?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Widcomm

Microsoft
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tuo_kaerf:
Thanks, this was definetively fruitful!

Then I do have the MS stack, which you propose to work best with the Sony Ericsson watch.

Ok, I will try it out :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
I run smatWatchM all day long on my HD with no problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navahoo:
confirmed! no probs at all!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neil_swann80:
I have a HTC Touch pro (See sig for rom and radio) and am using smartWatch on it to pair an Abacus bluetooth watch. The software works fine from a hard boot of m TP, but eventually it stasts to lose connection often. Usually after a few days. The only way I've found to correct this is to hard reset my device again!

I have tried setting different com ports using the software. I have tried different radios. Eventually the bug returns. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
neil_swann80:

Because you have Touch Pro with MS BT Stack, you should use the direct connection mode (so no COM ports, this connections is not very stable).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neil_swann80:
Have been using the direct connection, but the connection drops within seconds of a connection. Is there anyway to remedy this?

Even a hard-reset and only installing smartWatch now isn't even working!

It did connect using com ports though!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
neil_swann80:

I think this is because you are using Abacus watch which are compatible but may use different commands during initialization. In direct connection, every unknown command makes the application to disconnect/reconnect.

I dont have the Abacus watch and all the people were using the COM port mode. I will make a test version that will log or display the commands. This should help me to fix it.

Edit: Sent you a PM. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yeokpd:
v1.2.0.3

Thanks for the wonderful work ! I am running v1.2.0.3 with SE MBW-150, running nicely. I miss the feature where my MBW-150 will vibrate and display that the connection is established when i am close to my phone. I was on the beta v1.2.0.3 before and had that. Is this a change in the reg that I can do myself ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
yeokpd:

Menu -> Settings -> When Connected -> Vibrate

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rsolomon:
FWIW, the Abacus AU6001/AU6002 can be had in the USA for <$40:

Metal Band AU6001 (<$40):

http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/AU6001

Rubber Band AU6002 (<$30):

http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/AU6002

I got a 6002 recently from them, but I did little more than connect and confirm basic functionality before it went under the Christmas tree....

Richard
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
ETEN X500

Hy, please if you can, help me. I have an ETEN X500 with WindowsMob. 6, and the MBW-150 Classic. After I installed smartwatchm, and try to run this application, it displays an ERROR:

''A native exeption has occured in smartWatchM.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.''

If I select ''Details'' another Error says '' ExeptionCode: 0x80000002

ExeptionAddress: 0x03f6ffcc ''

And if I restart the program,... it's the same.

Please tell me how to make this work. - i have the latest version of smartW. installed. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
booomtown:

I have got the same issue reported by other X500 user (although the user was using another software using the same libraries, not smartWatchM).

What language is your operating system (WWE?)?

This problem may be caused by:

1) 3rd party library I'm using (I will report it)

2) .NET CF/E-ten X500 ROM bug

Things you can try:

1) Try installing and running some old versions (http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm0220.cab and http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1000.cab).

2) Try installing this library (http://smartmadsoft.com/temp/inthehand.mobile.3.3.cab)

3) Install/reinstall .NET Compact Framework 2 SP2.

4) Install/reinstall .NET Compact Framework 3.5.

5) Flash new ROM. There are some cooked ROMs for X500.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
Yes, WWE, it's my language.

...I'm sorry, but I don't know what are you talking about, I'm not verry good at this stuf, I'm a beginner...

I installed the ''1000'' version, and it works.

Installed this one too.

For the 3 and 4 above, please can you tell me what is this Framework? I'm supposed to install it on my PC, or in my ETEN X500?

I think this ''cooked ROMs'' are something like a new WindowsMobile, or so... If you can, tell me please where can I get a good and new one?

Thank you verry much for your help, my MBW is working for now, but I wanted to have the latest version of smartWatchm, working on my X500, thats wy I wrote to you. I have read many pages from this thread, but seems like anoter language for me.... I'm sorry for that.

Please if you can, answer me, to my above questions, and if you have a solution for this ETEN, please tell me. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
booomtown:

1) That's a good news that the version 1000 works. Here is a list of previous versions. Please try to find what is the latest version that runs on your E-ten. Then I will find what's new since the version and cause the problem.

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1000.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1000a.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1001.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1002.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1010.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1011.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1012.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1020.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1021.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1022.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1023.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1023a.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1024.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1100.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1200.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1200a.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1201.cab

http://smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm1202.cab

3) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...2f-07b5-4a8c-8a44-b4e1b196d5c0&displaylang=en

4) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en

Probably not needed any more but it may fix the problem... It will install .NET CF to your device using ActiveSync/WMDC (the .NET CF are basically some files needed to run smartWatchM. They are in your device ROM but maybe they are too old and buggy...)

5) I dont know what ROM is the best. Flashing a ROM with new version of cooked Windows Mobile would probably help. Try using google to find some e-ten forum or something like that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
Thank you verry verry much moneytoo.

I have installed the Framework 3.5 on my ETEN X500 (WinMob. 6), and also started to install all versions that you send. I started with 1202, and so on, descendent, until the 1010 version worked, and I stopped here for naw, because it's working OK, I think. All upper versions have the same problem like the latest 1203 version, it doesen't open, and that ERROR (from my first post) apears.

That's all for naw... If you figure it out, what's the problem, please tell me, so I can upgrade the latest version..., like other users...

BTW I want to buy the SE XPERIA, do you recomend this phone? It's working fine whit the latest smartW. ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
booomtown:

I will try to find out the cause of crashing.

Yes, Xperia is a good phone and smartWatchM works fine (my friend uses his MBW-100/150 every day without problem). Just some users have problems with BT turning itself off (it should be fixed in latest firmware I guess).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fr0stN0va:
Hi I have recently purchased the xperia and found myself on this site while trying to sync my MBW - 100 to my phone. Problem is that I had successfully sync the watch to the phone and used the smartwatchM to connect with the watch. Then I accidentally unpaired the watch with the phone and now non of my mobile phones are able to detect my bluetooth watch. Any ideas on how to resolve this issue ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
moneytoo:

Well this version, 1010, it's not working... It keeps crashing, and I need to relaunch the program. I paired also my watch with the ETEN, thinking it will cooperate better somehow, but the same problem. The WinMobile says that smartchwatchm had a problem and I should report it if I want, bla bla.

I'm trying naw the 1000 version, hoping that it will mantain the conection with the watch...

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
Fr0stN0va:

If this is a techinical problem, and youre other phones aren't able to see the watch, try to reset the watch (in the MBW instruction manual, tells you how to do that), than pair the watch again; or when you want a phone to see the watch (search for it), go in the watch menu for the last icon (the watch, 2 arows and a phone :)) and select it with the top right button (''pairing the watch'').
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
moneytoo:

Again, same problem with this 1000 version. crashes...

And with both versions the in the MediaPlayer, when I press the rewind button, for the previous song, doesen't work, it goes with the next song...

The forward button works, giving the next song.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
booomtown:

Have you left inthehand.mobile.3.3.cab installed on your system? This can probably make the old versions to crash. Try uninstalling it.

Rewind button isn't vorking at this time.

Fr0stN0va:

As booomtown said, reset the watch. If you need to pair the watch with smartWatchM again, make sure you delete the watch from BT device manager first.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kilrah:
Hi,

Firstly... Damn you for making me to spend $200 on an MBW-150 - I just couldn't refrain myself when I saw that, needed one! :D

Secondly... Thanks anyway, that will be fun for sure ;)

Thirdly, idea of thing to add - GPS support!

I'd see something like your messaging screen ( http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=72388&d=1203842774 ), but with something like speed, heading, altitude, and a 4th thing I need to think of, maybe just a simple fixed bearing the user would set with the watch buttons.

Have you made the source available for people to play with the thing? I have no particular WM experience yet, but have been develping for several different platforms and this sounds like a fun toy to tackle :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
moneytoo:

yes, I still had that ''inthehand.mobile.3.3.cab'' installed, naw I have removed it, and hope smartW. will stay conected. I'll be back with this...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jaytavarez91:
where can i buy one of those watches? and will this work with the blackberry storm?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
kilrah:

I made a test version that supported gps but I had decided to not to include it in the final version. There were problems with BT GPS recievers and the GPS had to ran all the time smartWatchM was active. The first thing is over - there is new connection mode that should be ok (and most devices uses internal GPS anyway). The second - If I find how to proper start/stop the GPS I might inlude it. Will see... :)

The source of smartWatchM is closed. But anyone can start with the development easily:

1) The most simple is a "3rd party notification support" in smartWatchM that allows users to write applications or scripts that display/vibrate http://www.smartmadsoft.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=15

2) Get the library (WM .NET) from aa15 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1960856

3) Write me a nice e-mail and I will send you a short kickstart guide how to deal with the AT commands (I helped already a few people with their projects) ;)

4) Another source (python) http://github.com/HeMan/pymbw/tree/master

5) Another source (c)... http://www.promixis.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18244

6) Write a script/application that opens serial port connection and start from the beginning (read the AT commands developer guidelines on Sony Ericsson website)

jaytavarez91:

eBay, Expansys, local stores... anywhere.

You can get the LM Technologies watch or bracelet. It should work out of the box with BB (but incoming calls notification only).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fr0stN0va:
Thanks to both bloomtown and moneytoo.

I have my phone n watch now sync and working perfectly.

But now I have noticed a new problem. I had a call rejected using the watch. The xperia has its side LED's light up when a call is missed. It is usually turned off by checking the missed call list. But even when I do that it doesn't turn off. Any ideas ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pacmanpoop:
Just ordered the Abacus AU6001, I would like to know what functions are supported by this watch. I think music control is out of the question but how about E-mail, SMS and weather notifications? Thanks moneytoo for this program. With the Abacus price being so low I bet this may interest may others to come.

ATT Touch Pro

PROven ROM 1.08 20764 Touch HD build
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
moneytoo:

Well..., it's not working anyway. I told you that I'll ger rid of the ''inthehand.mobile.3.3.cab'', an wait to see how smartwachm goes. It crashes, again, the conection stays about 2 hours... ohhh. Maybe you'll find the problem.... Again, I'm using 1010 version, on ETEN X500 - WindowsM. 6.

Merry Christmas!! to all of you!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Fr0stN0va:

Dont know... Maybe some other Xperia user.

pacmanpoop:

The Abacus watches are same as the MBW-100. All the notifications work (mail/sms/call/mms...). Even the advanced features (such as weather, stopwatch, media control...) work but it may be harder to control and move in the menu (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=5).

booomtown:

To summarize it:

Latest version (1.2.0.3) up to the 1.0.1.1 doesn't work, crashes at startup with "A native exception".

Version 1.0.1.0 can be launched but crashes in a few minutes or hours. (With the same native exception?) Is that correct?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] booomtown:
moneytoo:

Yes, it's correct, but this isn't: ''Version 1.0.1.0 can be launched but crashes in a few minutes or hours. (With the same native exception?) Is that correct? ''

It just disappears, the smartwatchm(1010, and 1000...), without the ERROR report, just disappers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kilrah:
OK, thanks for the info and links. However, if the goal is just to add GPS support it's a tad stupid to rewrite all the rest of the app for the other features, isn't it? ;)

My turn - for the phones that have internal GPS (at least the HTC ones), the GPS simply turns on when you open the COM port, and turns off when you close it. VERY easy :)

It should be the same with BT GPS units by the way. Usual GPS programs don't do anything more than this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Besk:
No dialtone

Howdy,

- HTC Touch Diamond P3700

- LM958

I do not have any dialtone

OR

ring out when connected to the LM958.

Under Microsoft BT-config it just say, Watch!

No ports, but it is working!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
X1 and MBW150

Hello, I have read practically all the messages (153 pages) but as I do not understand much. My knowledge in computer is very limited. Can someone tell me simply what do to to match X1 and the watch )MBW 150. (May be juste install smartwatch on my device...?? ) Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
kilrah:

It's not just about opening and closing COM port since I'm using other 3rd party library for getting the gps data.

Besk:

Could you please describe your problem (if any) more preciously?

Make sure smartWatchM is running and the watch is not connected as headset (no headset logo displayed).

escully@vtx.ch:

Just follow the instruction (Installation (SE MBW), 2a-6a) in the first post of this thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kilrah:
Well OK in that case I can't help - it's the library's job to open/close - turn off/on. If they did do it well they should have a documented way to command the library to do it...

I'd implement my own NMEA parser to get the needed data though, I already have some for use on microcontrollers that would just need minor adaptation for use on another platform, and speed/alt/heading are readily available in the stream.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
X1 and MBW 150

Thanks a lot for answering. You are great. I will try as soon as I can and may be let you know. Have a nice day.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
I have tried to follow what you told me, but I cant paire my watch with my X1 . What can I do ? Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
escully@vtx.ch:

Have you enabled the pairing mode on the watch? (The watch must be in visible mode)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
Unfortunatly no.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
Yes I realize what you mean. Yes I have been able to do it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
The phone recognizes the watch (it appears on the phone), but the watch does not recognize he phone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
What do you mean by this? During pairing, the watch should display an icon and vibrate and smartWatchM should display a message notifying succesful/unsuccesful pairing.

After that, you just select a Start from the menu and press a button on the watch.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navahoo:
any chance to control s2p with?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
On the watch during the pairing there is the symbol with 2 arrows turning in the middle.smartWatch does not show anything. Thanks for your help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
escully@vtx.ch:

Just follow the installation guide...

navahoo:

I will check it if it's possible.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Available in v1.2.0.4. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gtm55:
Happy new year!

and thank you for all your work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
I followed your instructions but it still does not work. Never mind I give up. Anyway thanks for your help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ookiller:
Thanks a Lot! $20 donated:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rockerrock:
Dealtime has a bt watch for $50

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14725
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
In fact in was connected, but I did not realize it. Thanks a lot. How can I make a donation. (Have you got a CCP ?? I live ine Switzerland)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] resil:
How to Answer Call with connected bt headset?

Hi,

first thanks for your great work. Now my question:

System:

I'm using your programm with an mbw-150 and htc kaiser with connected bt headset.

How to answer the call?

# Mute: top right button once.

# Reject: top right button twice.

# Answer: ?

Thanks for your response.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
ookiller:

Thank you too. If case you will have any suggestions, just let me know. ;)

escully@vtx.ch:

Finally... :) You can use PayPal, but there's no need for that. ;)

resil:

There is no answer button. When the CID is displayed, only the top right button is active. (However the behaviour is the same as with Sony Ericsson phone)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alfredtv:
moneytoo, do you think it is possible to make a program like this for a Blackberry? I think this program is great and the enhancements you have given to this watch are so great. I really think SE should buy this and sell it as bundled software....

But I am almost at a loss, my company is getting me a blackberry and I have tried to pair the watch with some friends phones and get nothing. Do you have any ideas or suggestions?

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navahoo:
that´s awesome but i won´t work for me so far!??!

i got the htc touch hd with wm 6.1 and se´s bt watch mbw-150. :confused:

should it work the same way as controlling the wm player?

thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
Your are very kind but I do not know how to do with paypal (...as for the watch...)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
alfredtv:

I think some sort of similar application is possible to make. (Just not by me :))

The LM Technologies watches work with most phones (usually only the CID, not messages notifications). I was suprised it even works out of the box with iPhone. I will try the BB compatibility next week.

navahoo:

Indeed... On some devices it worked, but... because S2P uses WMP for music playback, WMP is incorrectly detected instead of S2P.

It should be fixed in http://beta.smartmadsoft.com/

escully@vtx.ch:

No need to deal with that. Just enjoy the software (hopefully). :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] escully@vtx.ch:
I am very sorry and I thank you very much. Your application is perfect. So far it works well. Have a nice new year
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
Moneytoo, have you had any luck finding a way to get the weather data from TouchFLO 3D? I recently switched from a Sprint Mogul to a TouchPro, and miss the ability to get a quick weather fix from my watch. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] simius:
My watch with mobile phone Xperia work well with both programmes, but I use smartWatchM. There is only one problem. I'm from Russia and the most part of the phone book is written in Cyrillic (абвгдежзик...). But these symbols can't be read by watch. smartWatchM takes only "????" and btWatch has only empty space instead. Is it possible to do anything with it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] simius:
Watch MBW-150
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
simius:

1) I only use some latin characters from font "04b_03". So I will have to find some suitable small pixel font to add missing Cyrillic characters. (If you find a font that fits, please let me know.) However I will have to make some other app that will help me with the font convertion so it will take some time.

2) I can quite fast and easy add some transliteration/romanization of Russian as a temporary solution. Does it make any sense? Could that be readable for you?

JimSmith94:

No change here. I only know it's not saved in the registry... but I wasn't searching in files.

I recommend you to get Spb Weather because it supports text forecast (such as sunny/foggy/heavy rain...).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] med_gr:
Hello moneytoo and wish you a great new year!!

I'm terribly sorry in advance but i'm experiencing a same problem as simius for the Greek characters that are not the same as in Latin script - some of them only in non capital letters (eg. Α-α,Β-β,Γ-γ,Δ-δ,Ε-ε,Ζ-ζ,Η-η,Θ-θ,Ι-ι,Κ-κ,Λ-λ,Μ-μ,Ν-ν,Ξ-ξ,Ο-ο,Π-π,Ρ-ρ,Σ-σ-ς,Τ-τ,Υ-υ,Φ-φ,Χ-χ,Ψ-ψ,Ω-ω are replaced with question marks and many times the messages make no sense :( )

and a slight different for the Swedish characters Ö-ö,Ä-ä,Å-å which are replaced by oe,ae and ao.

Could you please help me, I know it's such a trouble...so sorry again.