yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ironmansp:
more text found inside...Seems to be flash eproms??

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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ironmansp:
Joe the master of HTC

more text found in htsgpsupdate.exe:

e:\Joe_Ho\Programs\PocketPC\Dresden\HtcGpsUpdate\HtcGpsUpdate\Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK (ARMV4I)\Release\HtcGpsUpdate.pdb

Sorry but I left debugging .exe more than 15 years ago ( when I was younger and my mind had less "free" space and Turbodebugger was friendly nowadays I dont know how to start)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
About MSM7200 A and B

I think, this isnt a Chip Revision ... this is a Chip Function intdicator!

HTC have tell ... new Qualcomm device with 3D ATI Hardware are MSM7200A Chips.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ZhenMing:
Hi janan, you can find the opposite side of the MSM7200 chip at post #41

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1907993&postcount=41
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rvintem:
Static?

On a Niki with the Nikiproject ROM, When using GPStools, set for Qualcomm chip (port SMD7 and 115k baudrate), with cold start, the log is always the same, wherever I am:

$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E

$GPGSV,1,1,00,*79

$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66

$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,,,,N*53

$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32

$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E (and so on, cycling)

Sometimes it gets a satelite going (red bar), but is always at the same spot (North), diferent numbers, but always exactly half-bar height.

I have a nice SirfIII bluetooth GPS, that usually gets good 9 satelite fixes, and used it in a lead-painted room (for X-Ray isolation) where the SIRFIII can't get even one satelite...but the Niki GPS still captures the same single satelite for some seconds...

So...The bad conclusion...I believe that the all the reception of our internal GPS is not more than static or some internal interference, not a real satelite...

Hope I´m wrong though :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] happytomato:
I partially agree with what you are saying.... I get the one satellite in the north alot, but every so often I get a satellite near the middle etc. Also, most of the time I get that repeated log, although it changes every so often.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] FuzzMunky:
What's happened to the secret underground research? Can we assume this has also stopped? Not heard much from anyone recently who knows anything for sure.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rvintem:
Until HTC pays me big bucks, I´m on. Accepting donations from HTC to stop development though :D

Not that it will make any diference anyway... :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We never close.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] FuzzMunky:
That's what I like to hear.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
busy at the moment

I'm a little bit busy at the Moment and some Tests need long Time.

The problem is we don't know nothing about the MXU tranceiver chip.

We will do some test to find out if the IC supports GPS.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
but for wifi??
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Der Wichtel:
I think we should better concentrate on wifi because it seems that enabling wifi is actually more possible than gps.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
And I thin that you can use your niki with a bluetooth gps but for the moment there's no way to use niki on the web...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] balviforever:
exactly need wifi more than gps.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
GPS or WIFI

GPS i think is not possible at the moment, without knowledge about the

MXU chip, we will working at WIFI at the moment, we need to implement the

WIFI drivers in the SPL, the problem is we stuck at the usb connection at the

moment.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
I already saw them but thanks anyway ;) metal pieces covering chipsets and polished IC do not help at all...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
where is this MXU chip? i think i missed it anb maybe can help with that
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
this chip is under the metal blade nearby the MSM7200 chip
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] erandhawa:
jockey i was reading your post on another board which referred me to this post saying we could find some info on pulling up the 850mhz band for 3g by editing the NV config, have you had any luck with this? thanks in advance your post is the only one to put a little hope for this for me since i bought the phone, love it but internet is slooooow.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] erandhawa:
o yea if this helps any the australian version runs on 850mhz do you thing the phone has different hardware or maybe just the radio and rom can help us?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] FuzzMunky:
Yeah, let's just throw every single issue into the same thread. That makes sense. :confused:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] happytomato:
I agree with fuzzmonkey on this, GTFO and start a new thread !!!! :-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
Answer

I will give a short Answer to the 850MHz problem...

There is a MXU6100 IC transeiver and we have no datasheet.

We don't know anything about the Band support of this chip.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] erandhawa:
reason i wrote on this thread was cuz jockey referred us to it himself for this issue
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
i wonder if this transceiver has the potential for fm radio. do we have zero information on this chip?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
Can you make a full Dump of your Radio Rom?

If you want do ... i tell it how! Its complicate!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] erandhawa:
if you let me know how to i have no problem doing it, i don't have the testra phone tho i've got the 2100mhz, but no problem doing a full dump on the radio if you can send me directions
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
I'm sorry to say this but, even if it had so, you couldn't have FM radio unless an specific chip is found inside the niki fir this purpose. Afaik, RF transceivers do not usually implement FM decoders, they're filtering and amplifying stuff for RF signals.

Anyway, imho, the fm stuff shlould be found as part of the bluetooth chipset, e.g. chipset BRF6350 or higher (Niki has currently BRF6300C installed, so no FM demod available)

sorry for that...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
i see. thankyou.

the polaris has fm radio, aswell as gps, i'd love to take a look at the insides of one.

has anyone had a look in a touch cruise?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] windowv:
AGREE!!! KEEP GOING FOR THE GREAT WORK!!

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR AWESOME WORK!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
question

who is working about WIFI at the moment?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] madds:
here is a link to the english translation of the ht1100 japanese version.

This one includes a fm radio. In pdadb.net it also states wifi, but that's not correct...

http://translate.google.com/transla...phone/ht1100/&langpair=ja|en&hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF8

if we only could get a rom of one of these we could try to see if it would enable fm radio. That would be cool....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
this device doesnt exist on the marked! next ... if you open your device, you can found a bluetooth chip, without FM Radio. It means ... we know to 100% fm-radio isnt possible!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] KRiST0F:
think this goes off topic, aint it?!?

back to getting wifi on this jewel so we get a masterpiece
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] OrgaImba:
Hi, what is the current status on this issue? 2 months have passed....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] clonmult:
Don't be impatient, the guys here will release any details when they're good and ready.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
Status Report

2 Months with many new News on this.

GPS = not working without Knowledge about the tranceiver Chip

NV-Items = can be changed by a modded Radio Rom

WIFI = working on this at the Moment... evtl. good news in some time :D

SORRY about the small Statment, thats all we want to say --no clear answers at the moment--

pls be patient we have all time of the World no one other is

working on this. :rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
wowowowowowowow:D:D:D:

and when could we have the fix for wifi??
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] FuzzMunky:
Billokko: Are we nearly there yet?

Me: Click....chk.... KABANG!!.......chk...BANG!!

Billokko: ...mehhhh....

Me: BANG!!!

Today has been brought to you by the Violent Me and the letter U.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
I didn't understand very well what you said because I'm Italian and my english is not very good but I'm sorry if I have made a stupid question...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fritsypeij:
BANG BANG, he shot you down...

He was saying they are working ON it, not that the wifi is allready working ;)

Don't take it personally, just give them a break until further notification. All we can is give them all the space and time to continue their development on wifi and GPS.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
ah ok.. I read "wifi is working" but he post "we are working On wifi"... sorry...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] maxreijmerink:
Hi, Is there any news about this radio update already? Has HTC released a patch already?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] maxreijmerink:
Sorry guys, please forget my last post! It was stupid to ask! I'll just have to wait, like all the others
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rev3nant:
maxreijmerink, don't get offended, but I think releasing patches to support GPS and WiFi for Niki (if this is possible) is on HTC's list right after releasing a MSM7200 graphics driver. :rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Madman_nl:
give him a break dude, at least he excused himself

haven't seen any of the other "is it working yet, i want my wifi"-whining types do that
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We are working on it, you must wait. Always asking about it won't make us release this faster. When we have something we will post it.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] buffylig:
Hi to all...I'm new here, and it's not the new of the day:sorry for my english 'cause I'm italian...ahahah!

...ok..first THX to all the developers here!!

..I've got a question :someone know the model of the motherboard shipped with the dual?!...is the same of cruise or tytnII ?!..can we ask to manifacturer if there are support to wifi hw?!

..thx again and have a good night!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] neXus519:
Please read the whole topic before posting
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deaddavey1:
geez the gsm/3g signal for the dual sucks the big one so getting anything else is gonna be impossible from my opinion...

i cant connect to calls let alone distant satellites
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] finesse:
If you ******** wanted GPS and Wifi, why did you not get a Kaiser or Polaris.

:confused:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] looking-g:
the signal on the touch dual is so bad i also cann,t imagine that it is possible to use it for gps even if there is a chip on board i think htc must release a patch to use the other antenna also for 3G and GSM in order to give us a better signal so that this device cann do what it is made for properly otherwise it is a lot of money for a limited mp3 player.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] FuzzMunky:
Because, quarter-wit, the Polaris doesn't have a tactile keypad and the Kaiser is very bulky and without an unbevelled "touch" screen.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mrvanx:
The INSTANT this thread turns into a flame throwing session it will be closed...grow up people.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
????

I don't understand the reason of this post... Can u explain???

This thread is the most important thread in the niki area and you are talking about closing it because of 2 post's??? Hmmmm....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] LeeDroid:
it was reffering to the above slanging match my friend......

Swiftly moving on....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TryOG:
And the flaming continues INSTANTLY..

just as the mod said, grow up. :)

but still, it would significantly damage the Niki research..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Just because i asked the reason of that post, it doesn't mean i am flaming anything... And btw, you are wrong, it may be closed, but it won't damage the Niki research, we are working on this every single day, and soon we hope to bring some news.

But, what i really see here is a lot of people always throwing post's about this and that and those don't do nothing to help this project...

We can't promisse great results, but we can promisse we are doing our best to make this project a great advantage to all niki's owners.

So please, don't come here and throw the first thing that comes in your mind. Please think about it first. At least, we deserve some respect.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] clonmult:
Those are two totally different radio sections though, aren't they?

I'll give you that the 3G signal is a pain, and the phone doesn't handle switching between 3G and GSM particularly well - I've had to switch off 3G on mine as it was having major issues sending/receiving texts.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
Yeah i get the same anoyying im gonna upgrade to the latest radio rom see if that works. I keep getting dropped calls.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ironmansp:
updated to 1.64...seems to be ok

updated radio rom..

Seems to work ok...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
Hi all, today with total commander, i find two strange key in the register:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet.

In the root of CurrentControlSet there are:

GPS_TESTMODE set to 1

GPS_CHIP set to 1.

I try to change to 0 value but when i make a softreset the key return 1.

Anyone have talk about this?

Bye.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
Understand, i think are value for gpstool :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
GPS doesnt work in the moment!

To use GPS, we need a special RF Chip (it isn't present in Niki100 and Niki200) and Change some Settings in the Radio OS.

It means ... Regkeys are very useless.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
i wonder what hardware modifications could be made..

where exactly to put the rf chip?

does anyone know about pcbs? its out of my depth but i think it be willing to break out the soldering iron.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
Yes, i know now i understand if we dont change the NV value cant use, are stored in a protection area, i remember in some router there are some protect area and have to unlock before change, example in the old speed touch there are an EXPORT mode and unlock the command (drv_write).

There is a method for dump all memory from the phone?

there is not rf chip?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dtm203:
Wish we all could get wifi on our touch duals :P
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
I try some rtask command like "b" & "7" and don't work, are not implement in hspl boot?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Thyraz:
Kaiser 1350 mAh

Niki 1120 mAh

i don't think this is the big problem ;)

Yes, it is not possible surfing for many hours over wifi with most PPC PE.

But this would not be a niki-specific problem.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Adri_tifosi:
There are batterys at ebay with 1400 mAh and 2500 mAh for the Niki
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] snudel:
btw, what for do you have 3G? I don't need wifi. I would just love to quickly use google maps while walking around. GPS is the prio for me.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] eroG:
well at least you can buy a gps recever and use google maps without problems..and also saving some battery..but for the wifi there is not such a solution or it is enabled or you just cant use it...that's why for me the priority is the wifi..even though now that I now that it needs an internal antenna I am starting to be a little less convinced that it can be enabled in future..

hope I am wrong.

cheers
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Thyraz:
I don't have prio for one of them.

Don't need GPS in the Dual because i have a receiver in car for navigation.

For Google Maps I have no Problem looking for Streetnames when I'm walking around.

Also no need for Wifi, I'm on unlimited 3G, if I need something faster at home for downloading to PC there is Activesync via BT or Cable.

Ohterwise i would have bought something else then the dual ;)

But I wouldn't hate my Dual if he has a few new features. :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
Who knows surely?

first of all, thanks for this excellent web sites where thousand answers can be found. This is my first post but I'm quite old (> 15 years) in technical tips on electronic devices and computer related equipment.

I bought a Touch Dual 2 weeks ago, and desperate with Wifi capability (and why not GPS, but not important for me).

From thread to thread I read this equipment might not have Wifi nor GPS antenna.

Who has really open this device to technically say that? Or is it just an assumption.

I cannot believe a manufacturer will produce 2 equipment based on the same hardware (Qualcomm MS7200) on 2 different way. The cruise is Wifi and GPS enabled device but Nike's capabilities are just disabled. And antennas are surely present .... Any photos from an open Nike to resolve this doubt?;)

Cheers,
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Dagnelinos:
is more important to see an internal photo of a Touch Cruise, the photos for dual are still present.

And sincerely anyone haven't seen an gps or wifi antena.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
Any link for internal photos of Touch dual and cruise?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Aqrab:
here a picture i found for the deal
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
what does the arrows say? That there aren't any antennas??

Sorry for my bad english but I'm Italian...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] slvrbllt:
Sometime they get back...

The upper connector is a "Test Point", the lower is a GSM antenna connector.

Neither WiFi, Nor GPS antennas has been found inside...

No Antenna ? No service!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
Uff

uffffff

so... we can definitely say bye bye to the wifi and gps?

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] daniel.w.leigh:
Will you all stop asking "Why would they disable it!?"

The reason Wifi and GPS are disabled on the Touch Dual is simple - It's got HSDPA.

The original Touch only has EDGE (2.5G) data, therefore it has Wifi and GPS to use GoogleMaps and Internet Explorer at faster speeds where available.

The Touch Dual has HSDPA (3.5G) data, therefore these features are disabled so that Orange/T-Mobile can say to HTC "disable the Wifi/GPS or we won't stock your product". You see, by disabling these features, the networks can charge huge sums of money for 3G data on features you could use for free with Wifi (internet, downloading) or GPS (Google Maps, which you can use over 3G when no GPS is available).

Orange/T-Mobile make tonnes more cash from 3G data charges this way, and therefore can force HTC to disable the Wifi/GPS chip. I'm happy to use 3G data instead - why aren't you?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jockyw2001:
Because I don't have a flat rate data plan. Besides, 3G is not available everywhere.

But actually I don't mind because I have a Kaiser which has both 3G and Wifi :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jvieira:
Well,

I would be happy to use 3G (HSDPA) if I didn't had to pay around 10€/month for it, with a 100MB usage limit. I can't even check my e-mail with that......

Understand?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bkeaver:
Ummm the original Touch does have WIFI but it does not have GPS. The only GPS it had was to pair it to a bluetooth puck.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] RsRichard:
im checking my mails every 20 minutes, get about 20-35 mails a day... and it takes... amazing 13 MB in a month for mail traffic.

surfing with opera is another 26 MB

youtube is 70 MB

etc...

100 MB is much enough for normal use (mails and a bit of surfing)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jvieira:
Unfortunately for me, I use it for work reasons. I get quite a lot of attachements (pdfs, .doc, .xls, .jpg) etc ... guess I'll have to connect it to other computers to download whatever I need until I get a flat plan
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ZiYi:
I came across this thread, and learned that you guys looked for wifi antenna in other devices with same chip to prove your thoughts.

here is the Kaiser internal photo from fcc.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=812152&native_or_pdf=pdf

sorry to tell you guys that, there is a wifi antenna.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
How can you tell? Also is the bluetooth and Wifi antenna just one antenna on the kaiser? if it is then your right there will be a way to get Wifi im pretty sure that it will just be the radio rom we change that then we can have Wifi not sure bout GPS would probably need another antenna.

Only a thought though we need a guy who knows alot about this to come and tell us if there is a possibility of wifi and gps or not.

Kurt
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rev3nant:
So do hundreds of people on previous 38 pages :D

Wishful thinking doesn't help here :rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] zargalo:
Hi.

I have a niki and i really d' like to see it having gps and if possible Wifi! :)

I HardSPL 1.15 on it, and i try to flash my niki with kaiser moded rom, and find only 2 satelites indoor.

Used GPSTOOL to get them.

Please GPS and WIFI TEAM DONT GIVE UP!

Regards.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Greenturtle:
I'd quite like WiFi and GPS on my Dual please so can you hurry up please?

*sarcasm doesn't really show in text (:*
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] zargalo:
Hi,

i have made some more test.

I have flash my original PTG into my niki. And try to see what hapen if y run the gpstoll using it! (note using the original rom), the strange thing was that i can still detect the gpd SMD7 port(wich i think is a emulated serial port), or a fake serial com port.

So, why do you get gps and satilites(only 2) using the original radio rom?? I think that the gps i found using gpstool its not real.:(

I think its need more that only flash radio rom to have gps or wifi.

Regards.