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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
I would hope so too, but if you own a Nexus 6P you must know that many owners of Google's previous flagship device didn't get close to two years of use out of it. I purchased the extended warranty which is something I never ever do specifically because I own a 6P as well and wanted to make sure I was guaranteed two years of having a working Pixel XL in writing. I suspect that this phone just runs hot and that a replacement RMA would probably accomplish as much for me as it did for you. I don't understand why no tech writers have talked about the seemingly high temperature this device runs at even when completely idle. A lot of writers cite overheating as a frequent problem with the phone but nobody seems to know how hot this phone should actually be under normal operating conditions if it's functioning properly. Even Google doesn't seem to know or if they do they are hiding that information from their own support staff.

I'm using a car charger that was certified for use with quick charge Android C type devices. I think I paid 35 dollars for it--its not some cheap generic junk you buy at a gas station. The charger worked beautifully with my Nexus 6P but when I use it with the Pixel XL the phone gets extremely hot. I've actually brought my Nexus 6P with on long drives as an emergency back up because I'm afraid the Pixel might leave me stranded again when I need the GPS. I think the Pixel XL is a nice phone in some respects but I'm afraid to actually rely on it, which is a frustrating position to be in after spending a small fortune on what's supposed to be a top of the line phone.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
That's my normal temp range as well. Once when I was on a computer chat with Pixel Support the temperature actually dropped 15 degrees in 10 minutes but I have no idea why. The battery temp went down to 83 degrees but it's never been that cool again since as far as I know. It seems like 90-100 degrees might be the normal operating temperature for this phone. It's a shame nobody makes a case that dissipates the heat a bit but using aluminum body phones without a case usually results in scratches, dings and dents so the surface that's specifically chosen for its ability to quickly dissipate heat almost always ends up getting covered in plastic or rubber anyway.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] iamjimmy:
I am not sure the SD 821 is to blame as much. My friend has the OnePlus 3T and we both used Elixir Widgets to see battery temp. His phone rarely ever got over 30 C. Chrome is the #1 culprit. But Hangouts, whatsapp and Youtube also get my phone hot.

I'm really not sure whether it is ok for a phone to be over 38C most of the time. My phone has been on idle for a while but it still has 36.5C. I know that when I start using it, it will get closer to 40C.

Does your battery drain more when the temp is high? I see big battery drains over 36C. If I am using the phone when it is close to 40C the battery drains rapidly. While watching a 15 min youtube video at 38C the battery almost drained by 7-8%.

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I guess the reason most people don't check the temperature is that they don't use any app which notifies them. Also pixel with it's aluminum and glass back doesn't maybe feel as hot to touch as the temperature would imply.

The problem with excessive heat is the battery drain and long term battery damage or any other problems. Something like bootloops of the Nexus 6p because of (perhaps) the internal heat generated in the phone, damaging components over the long term.

For me, the the biggest issue is the excessive battery drain when the phone is hot. At normal temperatures the battery is pretty nice and I get a good SOT.

However, as soon as the phone gets over the 37-38C mark, the battery drain seems to accelerate rapidly. Which makes it very inconvenient since you would need to have a charger around. I don't even try to use the phone in the car anymore. Even with the AC on, if the phone is on the dashboard and charging it gets to the 42C level quickly. I know that going higher will definitely damage the phone eventually.

Part of this issue is software related. I know there is a bug in chrome which causes the phone to heat up and google has acknowledged it. I'm not sure whether they would be bothered to look into the hardware unless a lot of people complain OR after a year or so, people start getting problems similar to Nexus 6p.

Overall, I really like this phone, but I just find it unpleasant to hold a warm phone or to be pressured while using a phone knowing that it will heat up. No matter what anyone says about higher temperatures being OK, they definitely are NOT. It will impact the phone over the long term for sure and the performance/battery drain in the short term. Newer processors and memory chipsets are supposed to run cooler not warmer. The SD 821 does not have a heating problem as far as I know except in this phone.

I'm not sure what I am going to do. Asking google for a refund is one option. But there is no other phone with the stock feel in the market. OnePlus 5 was an option, but I'm turned off by horror support stories, a 1080p screen and no reliability of long term updates. I could not deal with the bloatware in Samsung, HTC or LG, and I can't be walled within the Apple ecosystem.

So running out of options with which phone to get. Just feel shafted for paying $900 and still compromising.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
The pixel does not use Quick charge, it uses* Power Delivery FYI

clarification [MENTION=6990243]jhs39[/MENTION], the charging method provided by the charger is not supported by the pixel phone. I would not use it.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/phone-by-google/cTCRr2tUon4
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] rolling_thunder:
Well, I do notice battery drain as it starts to heat up, but I am still getting between 6-8 hours of SOT per charge. I use Hangouts quite a bit and was on a Hangouts voice call last night for hours on wifi and it didn't heat up. Then this morning was on a Hangouts call on LTE for a bit and it got warm, not hot. I also think the hotness factor has settled down a bit in the last week or so. I've only had my pixel XL for less than 3 weeks. It might be from mitigating the things that seemed to heat it up. Major one being Chrome.

Biggest heating up factor for me at this point is charging and using it at the same time. That seems to warm it up.the most, although I haven't been monitoring the temps with an app last 4-5 days. I just feel it and try to.judge the temp based on having used gsam to monitor the temps for a week or so (last week).

Maps does not heat it up. Streaming music doesn't heat it up. YouTube doesn't. I do understand what you are saying about it being uncomfortable to hold a warm/ hot phone. But honestly, I'm not worried about it anymore. I started out freaking out about it but it's settled down now and I really enjoy my pixel XL now.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] iamjimmy:
Thanks. Maybe I need to get used to higher temps. It's just that none of the phones I used previously used to go as warm. Hopefully we wouldn't have a Nexus 6 like bootloop or any other thermal issue after long term usage. I'll keep using the phone and see whether I can get used to the heat.

Quick question: I ditched chrome and am using Brave. Seems like a great browser. Any recommendation of bookmarks? I used to bookmark in Chrome and it used to sync across all devices on my google account. Is there anything similar in brave?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] savagebunny:
I finally jumped the Pixel XL train today, what app you guys polling these sensors with, I've seen some apps be totally incorrect.

Also, coming from a Droid Turbo, I haven't used it a lot, but I can run benchmarks and such.

EDIT: If we are just checking Battery Temp, before I started Atutu, it was at 25c (77f)

After benchmark w/ case laying on table: 32c (89.6)

I'll test browsing Chrome, and doing other things tonight.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
I'm using the readout from the elemental x kernel manager, it has a notification in your pull-down drawer
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] savagebunny:
Ah, well I'm still running 100% stock at this time with June push. Even with using my phone for a bit last night, I kept check and never got over 33c
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] rolling_thunder:
Using gsam. Mine has cooled down lately but still warms up (not hot, but noticably warm) when audio calling with Hangouts or duo, and browsing at the same time, which is surprising. Also warms up when charging. I'd guess about mid to upper 90's F.

After one Antutu last week mine was up to 104°F. So that was not awesome.

Right now, with light use mine is sitting at 87°F and it's about 70° out.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
I would consider a One Plus if it was compatible with Project Fi but I'm kind of stuck in the Google Phone ecosystem unless I want to change carriers. I have a feeling when the new Pixels come out Google will treat current Pixel owners exactly the same way they treated 6P owners--if your 900 phone breaks because of excessive heat shortly after it's out of warranty then you are completely out of luck. I can't see myself ever buying a Google phone again so I will likely end up switching carriers. I like Project Fi a lot but not enough to spend more money on Google phones with serious build issues. At least Samsung stands behind its products --my personal experience with Google is that they do not.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
My phone is typically in the high 90's if I do anything with it. Right now it's 96F and I'm doing nothing but typing this message on the XDA app. I don't see any way this phone lasts two years.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
That still seems high to me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
The forum you pointed me to says charging the Pixel with a native USB C charger should be fine. My charger is native USB C. There was nothing there that indicated my charger was incompatible with the Pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
To expand even further, the supposed Pixel expert in the forum you are citing says you should look for a USB C Charger with a 5V output, which is the type of car charger used by the Nexus 6P. But if you go to the Google Store the car charger they are selling for the Pixel is a Belkin charger with a 15V output. They are touting how much faster it charges than the old 5V charger used by the 6P (which is specifically cited in the comparison). There is no car charger made specifically for the Pixel. Google doesn't even sell one. And the one they do sell is inevitably going to make the Pixel even hotter than the 5V charger would. The faster the battery charges the hotter it gets.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
I'm sorry, you had said quick charge in your post, so I thought you meant the standard Quick Charge by qualcomm. that's my bad.

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i see mine usually idle around 32-33 but im pushing emails from work, check their service desk app, texting, and bluetooth is always connected to something so my phone never truly idles. I had to root because of a google service instant apps that's constantly pushing itself.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] iamjimmy:
I totally agree. I didn't even go on to ProjectFi because I didn't want to be dependent on the Google phones that ProjectFi has. Android has it tough. If you want to get the latest and greatest software, it is ONLY through Google who don't really stand behind their products as other companies do I feel.

Another thing: I started monitoring CPU temperatures as well.

After Marshmallow, Google had disabled CPU temperature monitoring in apps. However, I installed Elemental X Kernel and gave it Root access. Doing that it has a CPU temp monitor in the notification area.

The results were surprisingly BAD. I know the CPU typically idles at higher temperature than the battery AND usually is warmer at higher load. BUT the variance in Pixel XL is really bad. I'm seeing CPU temperatures up to 58 C and once even 65 C. So when my battery temp is 34 - 36 C (where it usually is on idle or super light usage), the CPU temp is 44-48 C. On higher load when the battery temp goes up till 38-44 C the CPU temp went from 54-65 C.

How is that normal? I want to give a screenshot of the CPU temperature to Google and have them try explaining that.

If the SD 821 were operating natively at that temperature, Qualcomm would have been in hot soup by now. How will this phone last long term with these kind of temperatures? Will we see Bootloops, battery failures etc even before they happened in Nexus 6P? I'm really surprised that people don't notice and there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this heat issue. If anything, this phone runs warmer than Nexus 6P which failed after 1 to 1.5 yrs of usage.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
The phone rarely feels hot to the touch so most people probably don't realize that this phone is actually really hot inside. If you contact Google they will probably tell you what they told me--they are aware of an overheating issue with some of these phones and would be happy to RMA your phone. The problem is that it seems to be an issue with how the phone is made rather than a build quality issue with specific individual phones. A replacement will almost certainly run just as hot. I don't see how these phones can possibly last more than 2 years. This is definitely going to be my last Google phone. After problems with two previous Nexus models and now the high running temp of the Pixel XL it's starting to seem like Google really doesn't want their phones to last for very long after the warranty expires.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
you're neglecting to mention the current* it is outputting at as well.

I have an iphone charger that outputs 5v and an ipad charger* that also outputs 5v. One is 1A while the other is 2A.

They're saying you need a charger that will* do 5V

AT

3A. Also, https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger they apparently do sell a charger. You should see what your charger outputs beyond just 5v, as well how if it's Power Delivery or if it's a quick charge type charger.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
They do sell a charger but it's made by Belkin (which I previously mentioned) not Google and it is not made specifically for the Pixel XL. While Google seems to be implying that the charger is made for the Pixel by showing Pixel phones and tablets as the only compatible devices for it you can actually purchase the exact same charger on Amazon. This is what it says on the official Amazon listing:

15W Universal Charging

The 15Watt/3 Amp charger connects to any USB-C device through the hardwired USB-c cable. The charger automatically detects the connected device to allow and deliver optimal charging up to 15 Watts. This means up to 50% faster charging for smartphones* and convenient charging for larger devices such as tablets and Ultrabooks.

and

Charge Old And New

All the benefits of USB-C can now be experienced on the move, including the convenient hardwired USB-C connector, making it easy to plug in anytime, anywhere. The USB-C connector will connect the charger to your USB-C device including the Galaxy Note 7 while the USB-A port allows for simultaneous charging of a legacy device.

The fact that the charger the Google Store is selling as a supposed Pixel charger also has a USB-A port is kind of a giveaway to anybody halfway observant that this isn't actually a Pixel charger. Why would a made for Pixel charger need a USB-A port?

I could certainly be wrong, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on electricity, but I think all USB-C car chargers for Android phones are considered universal chargers and that the charging technology inside the phone is supposed to regulate the amount of electricity the device actually receives. This Belkin charger doesn't seem to have any special computer chip or technology inside it yet that's exactly how Belkin says it works.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
because it isn't apple, a specific phone-branded charger is just... why man why lol.. you said there were no chargers sold by google meant for our phone. I just showed you that there are chargers that use PD instead of QC. there are also plenty of USB-C car chargers that use only QC which are not meant for our phones such as certain anker or aukey chargers. what charger do you have anyways instead of me guessing you have a QC charger
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
Pixel Support specifically blamed my overheating issue on the fact that I was not using the official car charger that was made for this phone. Those were their exact words. I simply pointed out that there is no official car charger made for this phone. Google does not make a car charger for this phone. The charger that Google sells is a universal charger from Belkin that is not only not made for the Pixel but it claims to be compatible with literally every Android device that currently exists. I also could not find a single USB type C car charger that claimed to use any specific charging technology that excluded using it with phones that use a different charging technology. It's possible that these chargers do actually exist and I simply didn't find them but if Belkin makes a charger that works with any charging technology then what would even be the point of the type of charger you are describing? I'm not the most articulate person in the world but I still can't honestly see how you managed to completely miss the point that I was trying to make. Google itself does not sell a car charger that is specifically made for the Pixel or specifically made for the charging technology that the Pixel employs. As far as I can tell such a car charger does not exist.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
:rolleyes: I'll ask again, what car charger do you have. link it. this way we know if the charger youre using is or is not supported by your phone.

I didn't miss your point, I'm asking you what brand/model charger do you have dude lol

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check it out, this charger IS MEANT for our phones but it's a bad charger (reading reviews):

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charger-Delivery-Output-MacBook/dp/B01LGO9LE4

this is a good charger, same ports and everything except it uses the method NOT SUPPORTED by our phone:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E764DXM/ref=psdc_2407770011_t1_B01LGO9LE4

also if the rep says the belkin charger is bad (assuming you're using the one from the google store) then they're misinformed. Believe it or not, that rep you swear by can get somethings wrong at times. Here's an article stating the belkin charger is meant for USB-PD enabled phones (you guessed it, that means Pixel too): https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/6/8/11886506/belkin-usb-c-car-charger-power-delivery
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jhs39:
I was using the same USB 5W charger that I used with my Nexus 6P. At first Pixel Support blamed my overheating problems on the fact that I was using Android O (even though the phone actually seems to run a little cooler on O than on Nougat). After I downgraded to Nougat and still had the overheating problems Pixel Support then blamed my car charger. I purchased the same Belkin car charger that is sold in the Google Store but I've only been using it for a couple days and temps have been moderate so it's too soon to say that the new car charger will stop the phone from overheating and shutting down. I can say that when charging with the Belkin the phone is no cooler than it was when charging with my previous car charger.

The automatic shut down when the phone was perceived to be overheating seems to be a safety feature built into stock Android to avoid the kind of damage heat caused to two different Nexus phones by two different manufacturers. When I was running a custom Rom on this phone it never shut down due to overheating even though the phone ran no cooler. Another person on a different custom Rom also reported that his phone never shut down no matter how hot it got. This isn't necessarily a good thing, however, because the Pixel battery and CPU can get very hot very fast which very few people seem to notice since they aren't monitoring the temperatures and the phone never feels uncomfortable to the touch.

If there was any doubt about the compatibility of my car charger there isn't now because I am using the Belkin model that Google sells.
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] Se7Touch:
Enabled CSC Tweaks.

*Download and flash with TWRP.

*Send an pm with a question.

v2:

- Little bug fixed.

-More quick settings toggle added.
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] sarp07:
I flashed this but it does not show 4.5G icon

(S6 edge 925F)

(Noble Nougat Experience v4.5)
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] sofir786:
Why would it show it 4.5g icon, this is to enable voice over lte(volte), allows you to make calls through mobile data.
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] sarp07:
I'm trying to say (but my bad english not allows:) )not working in Noble nougat Experience v4.5 . it shows volte in settings but not working
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] ucak2004:
Hi,

This fix won't solve the problem alone. Your service provider should activate the VoLTE Service Provider (TT or Vodofone or Turkcell). You can check Dps website for the sms command to activate.

Thanks.

SM-G950F cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] Se7Touch:
+1

Fix updated v2.
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] arzuakay:
Not solve Volte problem G920F

Volte active service provider vodafone
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] tlg68:
Galaxy s6 edge sm-g925p

GALAXY S6 EDGE SM-G925P

merhaba arkadaşlar... 925p için güncel ve kullanışlı bir rom tavsiye eder misiniz acaba? 925p için hangisi uygun bulamadım lütfen yardımcı olun
[Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge Unified Development] selcuksengoz:
j7 pro

ı usıng j7 pro j730gm does ıt work my phone ?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] robbyyyyyyy:
Even after using app scaling to adjust the Google Now Launcher to 18:9 the navbar still stays black. Looks very clunky.

Also app scaling doesn't really work for me on any apps I tested.

Any help is appreciated!
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Jostian:
If you want transparent navbar then you need Nova or suchlike launcher which has transparent navbar option. App scaling not working yet on most apps until developers adapt apps in line with the 18:9, which will happen.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] robbyyyyyyy:
On my G3, Google Now Launcher has a transparent NavBar, I guess the G6 doesn't have this option for that specific launcher?

I can wait till more developers integrate 18:9, thanks for the info.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Jostian:
No problem
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] jordanpa:
Bluetooth: Having to toggle ON frequently

Lag: Underpowered or Overused?

Camera: Really quite average, slightly better than Samsung Note 3 (2013) I upgraded from.

Battery: average, would be terrible without QC. I frequently use draining apps & games so this could be more subjective.

Overall, I feel like the phone is underpowered, and that root would be an idea. Using Qualcomm Trepn app you can see it is almost always running at clocked limit of 1873MHz. The only thing is im enjoying Android Pay and reluctant to give it up and root.

Is Moto Z worth unlocking/rooting? I envision with RAMExpander it would be butter smooth in performance.