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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
It is a good time for you to start learning english, and as an exercise do this:

READ THE LAST 10 PAGES OF THIS THREAD!!!

::: People making this kind of post's should get banned for 2 days!:eek::eek::eek: :::
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] OtakuFerreDavid:
I was reading the last's pages, Netrunner say that he can work Wifi, another people say that it can't be possible.

It isn't a definetly version??

It is that I understand, if I not right correct me.

Sorry for the other post, but i'm in the same position than before.

They are still working? (sorry for my poor english)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
The wifi crew is still working and the wifi is working but there's a problem and after a few time the screen crash and you can't see nothing.. but they 're working on it..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
and do you know if GPS can be activated? (present)?

and do you know if GPS can be activated? (present)?

I am more interested in the gps feature, my external gps receiver is having some battery problems.

Thanks all for this work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Enkanel:
Sorry Toug, but I think they are no chance to activate GPS. I don't remember if the niki have the chipset for GPS, but even if it exist and someone found how to activate it, it will not detect any satellite 'cause no GPS antenna is present on the niki.

And to the wifi crew, thanks for all of your work :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] morgui:
If i put a gps antena, the gps runs?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
Not that easy, man :)

It's not only the antenna, but the transceiver chipset itself.

GPS (very) rough schema:

V

|__ antenna ___ transceiver ___ demodulator ___ (any adaper here) ___ PPC processor

thanks wifi crew!!

regards,
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
hi kids:

After read in this document I understand that my HTC dual havn't WIFI inside, only GPS. But maybe the htc havn't antenna inside.

If one day we can activate the GPS and we can found a satellite... Will consume more fast our batery?

Isn't better buy a micro sd gps? where can I find one? (In USA)

I read the complete thread, some guys say yes, others say no,

m?

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] eyecrispy:
nope, no GPS in this device. they're working on WIFI. read more carefully.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
To Nikole

Nikole,

If you want use a gps receiver, use a Bluetooth one. You will have to pair it and then you will be able to use all GPS software (like Tomtom). This is the mean I use.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] StylusPilot:
I agree, there are plenty of very good Bluetooth GPS receivers, I use a Holux one and its great, and best thing is it doesn;t chew threw the battery (unlike my old kaiser) as its only using bluetooth.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Specially for you ;)

regards

Niky
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] xangma:
There's no gps antenna though.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Thanks! an easy, smart and low cost solution :)

niky
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
Or you can buy another phone:)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
or a dedicated GPS device.:D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
nop, I like the design very much of my phone more than diamond, touch dual is nice, slim, light and sexy!. like me ;)

Maybe soon when a next touch dual version will be released :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Mauser.NET:
For you I agree :P but I have both phones and the Diamond is definitely more slim and light than my Dual
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] arazvan2002:
touch pro

maybe you are waiting for HTC Touch pro in august ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
yep, I prefer a phone with keyboard, but I will love to see movies more smooth on my touch dual

NOTE: This Touch Pro will be more expensive than Diamond?

Niky
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] arazvan2002:
link

look here for detail http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
that dev looks great :eek: and it also has keyboard :eek: but i would be already satisfied with hardware acceleration on touch dual ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jockyw2001:
Guys, I fully understand that Nikole attracts your attention, but can we please stay on topic :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Could we have news?

hehe, you make me smile :) but I want to know if we can have GPS or WIFI drivers one day in our htc dual phones and when...

...Could we have news?

I will love to contribute more than to be a normal user, but I'm limited, only i'm a web designer :( I'm sorry.

If can I help in any topic please let me know

and thanks for share with us.

niky
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
The same question again???

How many times do i need to say it???

You will have wifi when we get it working, and i think you must wait a long long time for it.

You will never get gps on niki!!!

I hope no one ask's for this again... pffffffffffff

:mad::mad::mad:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Hey!! has you a bad day?:mad:

If my question was stupid, please close this thread because only make confussion!

Framed this image in you bedroom, no WIFI, but have GPS,

Niky :mad:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Do you know how many times i already looked to that image since we started working on this??? Do you know how many hours i already dedicated to this project?

And if you read the entire thread you should already know that GPS will never work and that Wifi is present on niki devices!

BTW i did not have a bad day, but the questions you are posting have already been posted 100000 times, and that means you are posting before read and that just brings trash to this thread!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Exaggeration, this thread has only 702 post, not all may be the same question :mad:

And the picture is clear, then could you give me an official document to read that supports what you say (no gps, yes wifi) ?

Niky
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Do you see bluetooth on it?

About gps i wont loose my time explaining what has already been explained. Once again: read the thread!

I wont post anything else about this questions because its a waste of time, if you read the thread you will get all the answers!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
Ok, you havn't an official document :rolleyes:

and sorry, please clam down

I thought that only women we had those days :rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
If you had read this thread, you would know that wifi is not in the 7200 board, and also bluetooth is not in the 7200 board. You would also know that The niki bluetooth chip is connected to the main board via MDDI, and you would also know that the bluetooth chip that is inside niki's devices is a bluetooth+wifi chip. You would also know that we have disassembled many times niki devices and that we read and searched a lot for all the info about niki's chips. This project has started a long time ago, not only the last 2 days, so do yourself a favor and read the thread since the beginnig before starting to throw questions into the air...

"

The Qualcomm MSM7200 Baseband Applications Processor is part of Qualcomm’s convergence platform. It operates on the WCDMA/HSUPA and EGPRS networks. The MSM7200 chipset supports data rates of 7.2Mbps on the downlink and up to 5.76Mbps on the uplink for fast connection speeds. Additional connectivity is provided through the Mobile Digital Display Interface (MDDI), Bluetooth v1.2 and WiFi.

"

http://www.semiconductor.com/resources/reports_database/view_report.asp?pid=4773

And now that i lost my time explaining to you what is already explained in this thread, i must sleep...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Demostrike:
Maybe a mod/admin should lock this thread and if there's a release or progress update then a new thread made?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
I don't see any reason for it, people must read before post and always asking for news should not be a reason for post. I think this is very easy to understand, but only some guy's understand it...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] kerrance76:
locking the threading will only cause people to start a new one every time they get a nike and cant be bothered searching or reading first. Within a few weeks there would be hundreds all asking the same already answered question
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] DaVince:
Maybe a more descriptive title? At least emphasizing that its not done/possible yet?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
done :)

also sent a PM to nikole to (hopefully) clear things up.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
o_O

Some times realy strange guys here!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Mauser.NET:
Yes, it's almost entertaining :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] morgui:
please create a post when only post wifi moderator to say about the wifi project, sorry for english..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
Any news on WiFi? I know you guys are working on it and im not trying to rush you lol just wondering if the antenna and stuffs there?

Thanks,

Kurt
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
omg. again one of those hated posts :/ no theres no news, the default answer: they have a working version which crashes.

the antenna is only missing for gps.

btw: if i only bought the elf... the niki is so buggy :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Antubis:
Let's play together : +1 point to anybody who has to give the default answer : "They have a working Wifi version which crashes, and there's no way to have working GPS because of the lack of antenna".

I think there still will be peoples who will keep on asking that question (although the title has been changed... but 70 pages to read :()

We'll see who are the ones that follow this thread the most carrefully :D

The_fish, you've got 1 point... Next !
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Well, it seams only some users can use ofensive language in xda... And i am not one of them...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
are you drunk for Ballack? :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
I am drunk because of some stupid guys here on this thread... and because of portugal of course.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Wifi crew needs a neon spl as soon as possible, and this means: NOW.

Thanks...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
why you have ask me? i have extract a 0.96 neon spl. i have ask valvarin and he mean, we check it on weekend! i upload it on your ftp!

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH ... I cant sleep!!!!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
lollllllllllllll
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
You were not online... :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
edited By Mod.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We ****ed up the new niki but we unbricked it once again.

Now we need to find out the Sedna PID, so if someone knows that please tell us.

BTW, Kaiser PID ****s up Niki, so just don't change Niki PID to value 17...;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
that poor niki lol
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
screwup is normal, if the PID is not for the particular device, the OEMSBL will do different hardware init which most probably will not be the perfect match for the device.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Yes, we know that and we are making some test's with PID's to get different hardware init, the only problem was that with Kaiser PID we lost USB connectivity, and that can be a big problem ;) but it is solved now...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
yes, kaiser is a *****, it was same USB problem on polaris too.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We got two problems with kaiser: No USB and no touch screen... wich made it very hard to unbrick... :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
a question btw: how was the signal strengh with the partially working version??
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We don't know, at the moment that is not a problem, he have a bigger problem in our hands.

We already bricked niki some times until today but we were able to unbrick it in some very hard way's, so this is not an easy thing to do and requires a lot of time and pacience.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
Thank you for working on it!!!! I hope you'll find a solution.... thank you so much wifi crew...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Nikole:
sorry to hear that
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
We public soon news and Pictures!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] webvan:
wow, smashing, I take it it's GOOD news, come on give us a hint before the big press release ;-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] garsim:
:eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
awesome awesome awesome
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] PaNa-S:
Your the kings ! :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
there are som good news i think no???? :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
hmm and i thought " no news is good news " lol

G.R.E.A.T!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Clem-le-long:
I cross my fingers !!! :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
Working WiFi would be soooo great!

Though I've already exchanged my Nike for an Advantage (couldn`t stand the small display anymore), it's great to see advancements anyhow.

And my Nike will look much better on EBay with WiFi than without ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] morgui:
yeah finally! I think there will be many donations from paypal!! xD
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
i don't think u should sell a modded or hacked device at ebay^^

had many problems with modded xbox long time ago:o
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Pantaloonie:
As long as it is correctly described as a modded device, the buyer can make their own mind up. When I sell off my old HTC phones on the bay, I always list the rom and windows versions, and link to the relevant xda devs forum.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
I would be the first to donate!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] webvan:
36 hours since the teaser, at least 12 hours too many ;-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dekoning:
you guys a killing us :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] m4ssnet:
the wi-fi in the niki it's almost a Pandora box... :p

I think after 2000h (example...!) spent in a project and no official result published or released it better to be left.

This answer only for the developers because they'll be crazy for this project !!

Altought, c'mon and go on, and good look for the 802.11 magic world ;)

Greetings to all people
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
why would it be good to leave the project if they are nearly done already? just leave the wish of thousands if you already have the solution to 99%(i think)?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
i bug valvarin in the moment, to put the pictures online X-D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
^^ (*hopes they get online soon*) how long do you think it will take to make a rom, nbh, etc. for everyone? will it patch only one part of the rom or the whole one? or: did you get it working so far :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] webvan:
What's the holdup? Guys this is the internet, no need for a Press Release! If it takes 3 days to post a screenshot, I'm concerned releasing the stuff is going to be like pulling teeth!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
It really should be nearly 2000 hours we spent in this project, but

i think it's no a good way to leave a project only when it's need

more time then someone think...

i have much more other projects, but i love when things will be done.

BTW. the pictures are on my girlfriends laptop and i will post them when

she will send it to me... but woman you know... u waiting for something and

u will wait much longer that u think...

:rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
1. same opinion as mine

2. xD i can wait :D

hmm your signature does not sound good. is that up to date?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
yes it is thats the problem that we have to solve...

after 5 hours with charger plugged in and nearly 1 hour with battery power

the niki fuked up and ereased the SPL

thats the output of mw 0 in the oemsbl after a crash:

=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2008.07.08 14:03:22 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
00000000: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000010: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000020: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000030: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000040: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000050: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000060: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000070: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000080: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
00000090: FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF - FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF | ................
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] garsim:
:eek:

I hate HTC :mad:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] refelian:
Could it be that is was overheating? I remember that long usage of gprs on my device caused it to act funny. One time I had mobiletorrent running for quite a while and suddenly the device said the battery was dangerously low even though it was being charged, 10 seconds later it deactivated.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
lol i dont understand much of this but it looks lije the niki "formats" his own or is it a weird hex code by default? ive got no idea but i wanna know that :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
It could be the reason HTC does not enable it.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Toug:
I hope that overheating is not the problem. But for my usage, 10 minutes to make a SIP call when I will be in holidays abroad is enough.;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
What doues the niki do when it crash? What you have to do then?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Johnston411:
maybe soft reset after a couple of hours and start again. :)

i've never needed five hours straight wifi but if you put it on then fell asleep to wake up to a fried device would not be good
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] garsim:
it doesn't start :D and then to start it is necessary to give commands from terminal
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
What means "give commands from terminal"?? you've to reflash? o simply a soft reset o an hard reset?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] GlenH:
Overheating could perhaps be the issue. My Niki gets pretty hot using 3G continuously.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] garsim:
i think..! but i don't know :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
o_O

Overheat ... HTC build in Protection ... the reason why niki havent wifi

WTF??

This is only a Software error. We edit parts in the Niki without full knowlage about it. We activate subroutine in the SPL to activate this function. We patch Radio Rom too. This are all possible errors. No on knows in the moment what happen. We are only a big step closer, to finish this Project.I thin next step is, we copy some subfunctions to a niki SPL and looks whats happen.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
This is not a overheat problem, and no, it is not as simple as soft or hard reset the device.

After the crash, when you turn niki on, you only see a black screen, because it goes direct to OEMSBL (if the niki is security unlocked, otherwise you will get a bricked device).

At OEMSBL we need to recover the SPL to make niki work once again. So if we released this now, most of the people would brick their devices.

So please give us more time.:rolleyes:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] morgui:
ok good job, and patience!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TryOG:
I hope you have a JTAG (Emulator) ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
We don't have one... :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TryOG:
Oops...I think jockyw2001 can help you. Send him a PM

He's very good at this stuff and has the hardware and knowledge to do this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

I think there was some missunderstandings (hope this word exists)^^

the HEX-code means there is no Byte set... cuz all got deleted/formated.

It's not true brick after that when it is security unlocked and also

when it's not security unlocked... after SPL is deleted it jumps

to the OEMSBL... jockyw2001 brougth us the very powerfull Tool

"FrankenKaiser" and with that u can nearly unbrick every MSM7200

Device.... MANY MANY thx to jocky

We check atm what cause this error... hope we got some good news in

some time...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
kewl i was right xD

edit:

i guess it´s a problem with wm... why should the spl erase itself? ^^
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Clem-le-long:
Thanx for all these news. Good luck !
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
I simply love you guys. :D

That looks very promising.

And to all the decriers:

Ever wondered why you always get ignored when a promotion to a line function is due? :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dekoning:
any images ?

videos ?

as promised .. ?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Clem-le-long:
Thank you guys to allow us dreaming about WiFi and GPS !!! :) I hope you will find solutions soon.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mouh_stach007:
sorry to be impatient but what do you meen by "soon" ? I'm going to receive my SIMlocked Niki tomorow and with your post I'm wondering if I'll pay 26€ or wait for your SIMunlocker program :confused: Can you just say If you have an idea of the time it will take to release the sim unlocker :about a day, a week, a month?

thks for your hard work

I'm definitly ready to make a donation if the arrival of your MFG niki is imminent and there is not too much waiting
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jockyw2001:
Will very likely be done by next weekend :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sonus:
:confused:What's with the expectation that HTC will release a patch????? If they planned on enabling WiFi and GPS they would have done so initially, as they did for the Kaiser, the Touch Cruise, ect. Do people seriously think they just forgot to include it and planed on including it in a patch/ROM upgrade? Lol, be serious people.

IF the hardware can actually support both WiFi, the only way it will get enabled will be by hacking the software/enabling drivers and/or hacking the hardware to implement the neccessary antennae.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fritsypeij:
They did it before: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6231.html

So.. why shouldn't they do the same for the niki :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gatto79:
sorry wrong thread