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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcfixitman:
New Test Version

Unfortunately, I am still at a pre-release state for the 0.1.9 version.

Here is a new test version I would like you to try. I implemented a "keep-alive" thread to try and stop the latest versions of WM from imparing the connection. In my tests this allows for normal menu and status use, incoming call, email and sms notifications. More than likely there will be distortion on headset audio, however - but I will continue to work on that.

Please let me know if this helps at all, or if it causes all new problems with these newer ROMS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
What is wrong :confused:

Short & precise.

:confused::rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ol2:
smartwatchm_sp.cab

Great job Moneytoo. I have been running with smartwatchm_sp.cab this morning and it's working well. I really like being able to reorder the menu - very nice.

The appointment notifications are now synced with windows better. There are no notification on subsequent appointment reminders yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I installed NewsBreak but still cant get it on the watch ,I get the message No RSS whenever I try
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Skiddy:
You have to change the rsspath in the registry, so the program knows where to look. If you have installed the program to the storage gard, it is likely to be \Storage Card\Program Files\NewsBreak\ChannelData. For more info search this thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
If you have battery draining or disconnection problem and it's not caused by BT headset, you may try temporarily disabling GPS Intermediate driver.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver

Set IsEnabled to 0 and restart.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
Thanks I changed the path as descibed and now it is working

ummm how do I stop it from scrolling?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Skiddy:
Short press starts it, long press stops it.;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I tried that but didnt work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Skiddy:
actually just tried it on mine and it the other way around for me. Long press starts the scrolling and short one stops it. Whilst I have it set up I hardly ever use it.

Make sure you have chosen RSS with the volume bars
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
I do not have the value, set is enabled
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
Hello,

i can not see RSS.

HTC S730, RSS Hub, Storage Card.

Is this the right, correct and complete "smartwatchm" "rsspath" ?

\Storage Card\Program Files\RSS Hub\ChannelData

THX
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I had a similar problem and I found that if you change the path you have to exit the watch program then start it again for the change to be applied
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dbrotzen:
Etymotic

Etymotic has a reputation for good sound, and they diminish external noise with 35-40 db. Not pretty, no mic. If you have an Advantage they will match it, though :)

http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er88.aspx

In October I asked if they would consider making it with a microphone as well, this is their sales director's answer:

Buy now and buy later. We will make your requests come true. Yes, you can customize earmolds, but you may not need to. There are a number of alternative eartips, even beyond ones that come with the earphones. We can help you if you need additional assistance after your purchase.

Gail Gudmundsen, Au.D., Audiologist

Director of Sales and Marketing

Etymotic Research, Inc.

61 Martin Lane

Elk Grove Village, IL 60007

847-228-0006p 847-228-6836f

g_gudmundsen@etymotic.com

www.etymotic.com

In-Ear: Invented Here

PS. Sorry for answering to off topic posting. Just realized. Great thread, though. Reading it has convinced me to order the MBW-150. Looking forward to trying out smartWatchM DS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dbrotzen:
I'm new to WM, and just got a Qtek 8500 and the MBW-150. Paired them up well (it didn't work with my SE P800, even though it's listed as compatible by SE. Theyp pair up and then the phone crashes, crashed 5 times in a row), and got most functions to work. What is somewhat odd, I cannot get the music track, and volume to work. I checked in the submenus on the phone and I saw that even though the hardware buttons on the Qtek steers music playback, it seemed that there were no hardware buttons "officially" assigned. That's as well as I can describe it right now as I don't have access to the phone.

Then I connected a Plantronics BT stereo headset. Sound was intermittent, perhaps due to the SE MBW-150 being connected simultaneously. Then I turned the headset off, and... no more sound out of the phone speaker (although the ring signal still works). I looked through profiles, sounds, and tried changing, turned the phone off, but to no avail. Any ideas?

Thank you for a great app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paultnl:
compatible headsets

Can anyone who is getting good battery life from thier watch with the MBW-150 please let me know what stereo BT headset they are using.

Thanks,

Paul
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuardianZX9:
I paired my MBW-100 again today after reloading the AP Touch Black Rom on my Athena, I started Smart watch enough to pair the watch and setup the com port.

Then something interesting happened, I got a bunch of calls and completely forgot to start Smartwatch.

I noticed by the end of the day with SmartWatch not even running my battery on the watch was close to dead, so it appears that the speedy drain of watch batteries when paired to the Athena has something to do with Bluetooth, the comport function or something else related.

Any ideas guys? can you Athena owners confirm?

I did have my BT8010 running the entire day as usual and it is still at 90% battery.

G
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gtm55:
same here, mbw-100 running dry without smartwatch being started...

and I have the same combination as you: Athena (wm 6.1, radio 1.57), jabra BT8010, MBW-100 (before MBW-150, same problem)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PBL1:
I f I have smartwatch off, my MBW150 battery last for days ( i didnt timed how long) even with headset being used all day, this is with the watch paired.

I am using Athena with black touch rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuardianZX9:
PBL1, curious, if you press the top button twice do you see the double arrows next to the BT icon? When my watch is paired, I get the double arrows whether or not SmartWatch is running.

I am thinking that there is a bug in the com port section of the BT stack that is keeping the port open even with no data flowing.

G
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
for me, I can pair my watch with out smartwatch running and it lasts for days ! but if I start smartwatch I will get 14 HRs, when paired WITHOUT smartwatch running I DO NOT get the <> indicator next to the bluetooth sign on the screen, however I can prove that it is connected because if I soft reset my phone, I get the lost connection notification on the watch a few moments later.

Those of you that believe they are getting the <> indicator without Smartwatch running I believe you are mistaken, I think smartwatch is hiding, you can prove this by pressing and holding the bottom left button on your watch, if smartwatch appears, then it was just hiding on your phone !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dbrotzen:
Music controls not functioning with Qtek 8500

I've got everything working except the music controls (!). Anyone with an idea of what might have gone wrong there?

I've got an old ROM on the phone (ROM 1.02.252.1; Radio is 4.1.13.17_02.32.21). Would the telephone ROM or radio make any difference?

Also, as my Plantronics 590 bt stereo headset does not work well with the watch connected.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PBL1:
I think I am with ice_coffee on this, I do not have the double arrows, but if I press the volume buttons the dispay show the searching arrows,wereas if I switch off the phone (or bluetooth for that mater) and press the volume buttons the watch vibrate and the display shows the disconection icon.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arpy:
...this function is a Joypad-remote only.SmartWatchM receives Vol-UpDown,Play and Forward, on the Phone Up,Down,Action and Right.

You can use this as Joystick-remote if MediaPlayer is active, other apps too but no Keylock,no Screensaver.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] punkokseng:
moneytoo. maybe this will help someone who feedback the same issue to you on the compatability between CE-Star and sWM.

I've ditched CE-Star and installed an alternate Chinese input software called A4 (http://www.a4user.com/A4_down_sip.asp).

so far, I have not encountered the problem I had with CE-Star.

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ful babu:
just a little thought, does MBW-150 and SE HBH-DS970 works under the same principal i mean the caller ID and the song title info? so is it possible to modify the soft for HBH-DS970 to work completely with WM ?

thank you. and i appreciate ur amazing piece of work!

regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bremair:
Hi moneytoo,

I'm testing the app for about one month now and have some betterments for you.

-Try to improve a stable bt connection, I lost it sometimes quite often.

-Might it be possible to use an other music player except wmp? This stupid player need over 40MB ram and slow down everything. Did you know the Mort Player? Maybe this would be a good alternative.

-The last thing I want to mention is displaying of messages. Might it be possible to display the whole sms text? For now it only displays the text as long as the sender name is. And for example "can't" would be shown as "can?t" and "!?." wouldn't be shown at all.

But all in all a very nice app, keep on improving it.

We love you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karmarock:
Athena draining problem

Hi to all and big compliments to Moneytoo for the application.

I started using it as I received my bt watch last week and I am experiencing very rapid battery draining (14 h approx) like othe guys with the Athena.

Here the steps I made to try to solve the problem:

I tried Moneytoo suggestion about GPS Intermediate driver (added value in the registry).

I removed all of the BT pairing in the PDA and repaired MBW only (no headset so this lead me to think the problem is headset independent).

I test different com ports.

Actually high draining is still there (11-15h, far from the 3 weeks duration time experienced by other users).

Is anybody out there experiencing correct duration time using the Athena?

If yes please report your ROM and radio versions.

Few words to Moneytoo: i agree with bremair about the fact that having the whole SMS txt to be displayed on the watch would be very useful (will avoid reaching the Athena to read the complete TXT).

Also number of vibration on some kind of alerts (calls and sms) would be useful (skying or riding a scooter could let you miss a single shot of vibrations from the watch).

Vibration on notifications would be great :D unfortunately now I could not rely on it to wake-up as in the night my watch should be charging :(

Please forgive my english as it's not my motherlanguage

Great job Moneytoo!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
For users with battery draining problem (no headset/gps connected):

To find out what’s the cause of this draining I need you to export the registry from your device.

1) Export the registry using Resco Explorer (.reg). (Only if you have hard reseted device or the exported file contains no personal information)

or 2) Copy all .rgu files in \Windows directory

or 3) Give me a link to a ROM you are using and I will try to export the registry myself
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karmarock:
Athena draining problem

Thanks Moneytoo for the willingness. Here it is the safest thing I could do ... link to the official rom on Athena WIKI.

http://rapidshare.com/files/60610951/Advantage_HTC_ITA_2.21.408.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe.html

Hope you can dig into it.

Athena + MBW150 + smartwatch solved the draining issue would be perfect!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] delboydell:
I am running the original t mobile rom 1.12.110.6 and radio 1.32.00.00 on my ameo and also have paired a lg i style hbm-700 and my kenwood multimedia screen in my car, The i-style is only switched off when im in the car and the kenwood is the handsfreee and is left paired at all other times along with my mbw-150 and I am getting 4 to 5 days of battery from the watch left on 24/7 along with the ameo.Emails are d/l every 10 minutes so the watch is displaying info at least every 10 mins. I do have the jetware extention installed too.

Perhaps an idea for an improvement or extra feature would be an out of service indication this would be useful in large shopping centers and other places where an out of service notification would help us be aware of the lack of signal.

Anyway thanks for a great app and keep up the good work

And yes all the text message or more of the email would be good too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PBL1:
Athena draining problem

Moneytoo

My registry back up attached, it is done with RegEdit ( part of Task Manager) *.reg.

my rom is WM6 Black Touch for the Athena by Pawel

Thanks, hope it is usefull to you, by the way if you happen to find anything curious related to the BT stack please get in touch with Pawel, they are building a new rom and they have been having some problems with BT.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
@ moneytoo

as soon as PK 4.0 is out I will update my device and give you a copy of my registry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
in an interesting turn of events, I have put the standard win mo 6 rom back on my phone, the only device I have connected is my watch and so far it has lasted longer than ever before and still showing full battery. It is fully connected and with smartwatch running. on the same comport I always used (com 1)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Here's the latest test version smartWatchM_gps.cab v0.2.1.5 with GPS support.

You can find the GPS info as a 10th menu item. If it will work I will add some GPS mode on/off (same as stopwatch, automaticaly updating the GPS data)

Anyway, there is a few buts:

- if GPS Intermediate Driver is active but no GPS signal is available the watch respond really slow (probably affects only external BT GPS)

- the GPS is on the whole time sWM is running so battery can drain more quickly
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
Moneytoo, have you looked at or experienced the problem of the watch or Bluetooth headset losing its connection during a phone call? I've reported this a few times, but haven't seen a reply yet. (I donated to you a while back, if that matters. ;) )

I use a Sprint Mogul (PPC-6800) and noticed this first on WM 6.0 and now on WM 6.1. I think it's related to the WM Bluetooth stack as on WM 6.0, the watch would vibrate every minute or so as it lost its connection, got it back, and lost it again. Now that I am on WM 6.1, the watch keeps its connection, but the headset loses its connection about a minute into the call, and I have to scramble for the phone before the caller hangs up on me. :(

I didn't like the watch vibrating while using the phone, but it was much preferable to losing the headset connection. As it is now, I have to keep Bluetooth disconnected on my watch, unless I want to show it off to someone. It is completely unusable if I want to talk on the phone with my Bluetooth headset.

If it matters, I'm using a Plantronics M510 headset, and the only COM ports on my Mogul that will connect to the watch are COM0 and COM2. I get the same results with either port, and also get the same results with PCFixitMan's btwatch application.

I'll be glad to do any debugging that might help. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wgary:
Using Athena, I got one GPS fix. Then the same data over and over when I refreshed... even though I was in a car in traffic. Is that anticipated?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuardianZX9:
ice man, what times are you getting? can you also try with a BT headset paired and see if it gets cut short?

Thanks

G
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
I paired my headset yesterday at 6PM which was already the 27 hour mark, the watch is still showing full battery now, and is still fully connected, come 3 pm today it will be the 48 hour mark
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
@ jim smith I am also getting the disconnection problem after 1 minute
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snubbel:
Disconnect problem...

I'm getting the same problem:

HTC S730 (Wings)

Windows Mobile 6 (SmartPhone)

MBW-100

The watch connects, then disconnects after about 1 minute.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
Not sure if this is a clue or not. Last night I looked at my CDMA settings in PST. One of the ROMs I installed recently must have changed the settings back to their default.

I changed "EVRC Enabled" to "Disable" and "Home Page", "Home Orig", "Roam Orig" to "Voice 13K". After a soft reboot, I am back to the watch disconnecting during a phone call instead of the Bluetooth headset.

I can live with this, but there must be a solution. It's as if the phone can't handle having two Bluetooth devices connected at the same time, which doesn't make sense.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
It seems to me that the watch are very "signal sensitive", even the BT link is still active. When there is a phone call or WiFi connection, the BT radio stack probably gets less energy so the watch disconnects.

Another reason for this theory: No disconnection when WiFi is on & set to optimized mode (battery saving); sometimes disconnections when WiFi is on & set to best performence mode.

I know its weird but this make sense to me. (It can be lake that because of the Sony Ericsson specific BT design)

I think we should ask the creator of this watch (Fossil).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alexandera:
I haven't tested it yet, but what is the extra gps feature? GPS coordinates on your watch?

Another question: is it possible to adjust the menus? 10th menu for instance is a bit gambling, the only thing you see is the volume going a bit up and down. Titles would be awesome. Probably asked before in this already 84 pages thread.

Thanks in advance for your reply.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
What you say makes sense if it was the watch that always disconnected. When I had EVRC (Enhanced Variable-Rate Codec) enabled, which I think is supposed to make the Bluetooth quality better, the headset disconnected instead of the watch. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
GPS info available: current speed, heading (degrees), sea level and a number of satellites. I dont think there is any need to display coordinates.

Sure, you can reorder the menu as you want to (it can be set in the registry, more info is in the version 0.2.1.2 post - link in first post).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beginner:
hi moneytoo, it works great , you made a very good application except my watch doesn't show the high over sea.

the other question is that i am obtaining it if i start a program as google maps, is there any way to reach directly gps device data without to start a program that use it, as google maps or tomtom. my device is Athena and has internal gps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I keep getting error 031 on the program and it is nof functioning properly!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
over 3 days continuously connected, apart from the odd random disconnection, and my athena battery dying for a short while ! watch still showing 100 %

@ moneytoo

where does the watch get the time from, last night the clocks went forward an hour, i have not set my athena yet, but the digi time on my watch is correct ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] delboydell:
what app is neaded for the watch to get the gps data? I have tried it with tomtom on my ameo but no data is transfered to the watch?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuardianZX9:
Guardian Here again...

I was playing around with some of the other Athena Roms and I ended up loading AP Dual(vs AP Touch) and I paired the watch first on a fresh load and I am already 10 hours and the battery still shows full charge.

So I am assuming that something with the Dual rom differs with the Touch rom.

I also notice that I have less bluetooth errors with A2DP streaming and watch disconnections.

The only other thing I changed was using Com0 instead of Com1.

Wanted to see if anyone else can confirm, I will wipe and reload and see if this clears it up for good.

G
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PBL1:
That is all good news to my:)

Hopefully the battery problem is related to the touch rom only and that next rom has it solved.

good luck
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arpy:
OK, there are some differences between my Phones:

HTC Wings:Smartwatchm works well fine, small Soundbug with BTStereoHeadset,sound Interrupts,

HTC StarTrak:Sometimes lost Connection, big Soundbug with BTStereo...,

HTC Tornado:like StarTrak, but better Connection, bad Soundbug...

HTC Typhoon(Amadeus,SDA Music):Like StarTrak,need more testing...

However, the "Bugs" are Device-Specific, most Users here reports problems with Devices with ARM Processors, Qualcomm works better,i think...:cool:

The Soundbug results by "tooo many Devices", because BTStereo needs a constant Stream, sending/receiving Data from other Devices may disturb the StereoStream...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Slide:
With O2 XDA Orbit 2( HTC Touch Cruise) lost Connection often (Qualcomm) :-(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beginner:
Athena and smartwatch user experience.

I have been using during a week the software and looks great.

Rom AP 3.0,

MBW-150

Port: com0

Jabra BT 8010

Problems I have:

- times the sound in the headset is bad (looks after move to com0 it has improved)

- I installed google maps and broke the connection with the watch.

- No idea how works the update of the gps data, does it use old records stored in the pda from the last time you use tomtom?

- watch battery doesn't support more that 8 hours. This is a problem (imaging to wear other aditional charger for meetings...)

But I say except the battery drain (looks is due the software rom of my device fault) I consider by the moment a proud user of smartwatch and mbw-150.

thanks for your work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I am using the watch with my kaiser with the official ROM,I also pair the device with Parrot 6100 car kit.

The battery life is about one week.The watch usually diconnects when i get a call in the car and the A2DP performance quality is drastically reduced if the watch is connected.(which is not a problem since I can simly disconnect the watch when playing music)

Alerts are working well except for appointments.

All in all this device and software are exceeding my expectations.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PBL1:
What is your experience using a different headset?

How good is the incoming and outgoing sound during a phone call with the watch connected, and does it make a difference by using a stereo or mono headset?

what about battery time across the different devices?

Just keeping you busy chaps:p

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ice_coffee:
I was using touch dual when I got 14 hours, but I also had jetware installed !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuardianZX9:
I am currently using my TytnII with a Slueuth WM6.1 Rom, BT8010 paired and Jetware, I had to hard reset my BT8010 to fix the A2DP disconnection issue.

But I am seeing at least 2 days from the watch, I will continue testing, I was only getting 6-8 hours with the Athena.

G
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zaki67:
I did not notice a drastic change in the Phone battery life(kaiser) i usually charge it every evening with battery somewhere between 40 and 60%.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] delboydell:
Has anyone got the gps working?

If so what program are you using for the data? I cannot get anything on my ameo and tomtom,I have looked in the regisrty (with my limeted knowlage) but cannot find a gps setting (like the rss feed thats neads to point to an app)

Watch battery life is still about 7 full days on 24/7 with original tmobile WM5 rom Jetware installed and paired to two other bluetooth audio devices.