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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
im thinking about moding my nike to get gps working, can anyone help me with what chips i'd need and where to place them? is it not that simple?

i could always attach a bt gps reciver to the battery and mod the back cover. but its a bit more bulky than what i'd want. it would then be the thickness of a kaiser lol and i dont want that.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
Study the Titan thread

I think one should study the Titan threads. The Mogul/Titan uses the same MSM7500 chipset. Some other chips may differ but then again....

Here is some more info.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

u need some chips one of them is the RFR6300 tranceifer and u need to

place it Oo on the MSM7200 board but i don't think u find a place to

put it in.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

Niki don't use a MSM7500 board it has a MSM7200 inside.

why u don't try it and brick ur niki?

GPS is not possible without external Hardware in niki belive us -.-
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Olipro:
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Thanks cmonex.

this is what you get when you login to your account on your girlfriend's computer; they start impersonating you ^_^
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
why won't an OS boot with this SPL?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

I think too many errors at startup and the OS will freeze.

SPL boot without display and the WIFI OS has the false

Power settings and Keymapping. We working on this but

it's need time.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
Wifi chip?

Can some experts tell me where is located the wifi chip in the Niki? As I said in previous post, I have opened several time my Niki and didn't succeed to locate it.

Please don't be offensed by this question ... just proof of concept.

Thanks.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
I find this interesting... if you have some irc channel or some other place where you discuss developments I wouldn't mind joining if possible :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
I think, we can handle a little plattform for brainstorming!

We know a lot in the moment about some importent and new things!

Do some one know ... it's possible to exchange a display with touchscreen if the connector is the same. only need to exchange a code block!

this is a example!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
thought that was an obvious example

hey, you can find examples online where a CCFL display is hacked to use LEDs - no driver change needed

anyway, brainstorming platform? I say msn groupchat? :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
MSN Groupchat sounds good xD
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
Yes ... ^_^
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
Hi,

Any new finds? Just trying to keep the post alive as it seems to be slowly losing pace...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
GPS

COM 7 anyone? :))
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
argl

com7 = bluetooth

u can setup the gps function on a other

com-port but it doesn't matters, it won't work.

there is no antenna and not the right

tranceiver chip inside!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dekoning:
soo NO gps, ... and the Wifi is still possible? Or you're still looking at it, to find a solution available on the phone?

cause I've got a NIKI100. European version for all I know.

Read alot of it, but everyone's talking about different versions of the 'NIKE'/'Touch Dual'
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
Hi and welcome :)

GPS is not possible right... but we are still working on wifi and

many many steps are done.

there are some version of the Touch Dual

Nike100..Nike200..Nike300 but this doesn't matter there are no problems

i think.

and then there is a Device called NEON this is like a NIKE

but with a other Tranceiver chip that supports 850MHZ Band.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Serial_99:
Dear, Valvarin

I found someone can use GPS with google map.

he use KaiserTweak cap file and enable GPS

then use googlemap with GPS.

He told , that googlemap can recive signal.

Could u test it .
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
@ Serial_99

If it were that simple do you think these people would have spent hours upon hours pulling the device to pieces and scrutinising every last bit of the radio roms???? I dont think so. The reason your friend might think he has a signal on google maps is because it has an algorithm built in that can work out where you are (to within a couple of km) based on various factors such as IP address and what mobile phone mast you are currently communicating with. After reading these forums its a common mistake people make to think this is in fact GPS.

@ Valvarin, NetRunner etc

Guys let me know if theres anything I can do to help, I've got experience programming c, c++ and various assembler languages for PC's and other devices, maybe if we need to hack a driver together or something I could help you.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jvieira:
can I ask you guys to change the thread name? we all know there's no GPS on the niki...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
Exactly, after 51 pages of posts regarding this issue you would think that people would start to get the idea...... NO GPS!!!!! Unless you have some elite version of the dual that HTC decided to add a GPS antenna to!

I think that WIFI will happen though, just a matter of time now.....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

the Thread name is exactly what it means^^

we only forgot to make a new Thread for only WIFI after checking

GPS won't work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
how is the wifi project going may I ask?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
u can ask^^

i add u to MSN
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] delta37:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=388184

check out this thread. the wifi team needs our help
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
Yes it was my suggestion....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
thread is dead?

I think, we are never get working wifi at touch duals...

Day after day, week after week, month afer month... And still nothing.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] medowance:
Just be patient annd see what will happen.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=388184&page=4
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dekoning:
Ah right, good to hear.

Hard to believe that the Touch Dual has hardware to run Wi-Fi, but (most likely) due to the new mobile data connections receivers they implanted in this device the company decides not to make use of it. The mobile networks must certainly have a lot of influence in this matter.

How ever, good to hear that people like you team up on this forum and combine there knowledge to do things like this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] andmaz83:
scusa il disturbo, non riesco a capire alla fine se questo wi-fi si riesce ad abilitare oppure no. se puoi darmi una risposta mi faresti un piacere. grazie mille
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
Non ancora... ci stanno lavorando sopra.. devo fare dei test rischiosi e per questo ora hanno un altro touch dual... bisogna attendere, la strada è buona ma bisogna attendere... qui però non possiamo parlare in italiano... solo inglese..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] vichet007:
English please..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
traduction

but we cannot speak in italian... only in english

;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
the first guy asked if wifi was working or not, and then the other guy said no but they're working on it. thats about it really. incase anyone was wondering.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] vichet007:
Thanks for the translation.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
What a silence ;) 6 weeks ago they told us, that we had working wifi in maximum month. Now we still doesn't have any proofs. Mayby some screenshots or something.

Any "we hard working" , "we need donate to buy Niki for tests" is not enough now.

Why You doesn't told us, that WiFi in Niki is not possible?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
The secound Niki is ordered but not delivered.

Wifi is present.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] HutcheonS:
what's your problem? do you pay them to work on it?

so just shut up and wait, or at least be polite
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
Is there somethings stable yet. Ya'll got your second units to test. I already had a second unit from to get go. So what's up?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
Rather than being aggressive, why dont you just ignore them? I noticed you are only on your 4th post and being aggressive towards people who make comments that aren't even aimed at you is certainly not welcome in these forums and is certainly not impressing anyone.

However I do agree with you, If people can't be patient and wait then they should go and buy a device that states that it has WIFI to start with. I personally speak to Valvarin on MSN and I can tell you guys that he is working his arse off on this so just be patient and if you dont have anything constructive to add to the thread THEN DON'T!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
OK ... possible its hard ... can you disassembly ARM Code? Are you able to understand Assembler Code and rewrite it?

If yes ... please contact us via ICQ or MSN. If not ... dont bug us with your secound Niki.

You cant help us in the moment, but we need in the future some beta tester. Then you are wellcome!! It is realy to complicate. A hand full guys in this board, are able to develope a hack like this. ONLY A HANDFULL!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
Humm lemme think........YES!

You can't be bugged by me if you are working soooo hard on getting it done right? I mean you wouldn't have time to read this ish anyway.

How the funk would you know what I can and cannot do?! You go assume things way to often dude.

Anyway my ass is off to Korea for the next 4 weeks. I start tinkering on the same for this doohicky with my Korean buddies. Reason I asked you anyway is because we are starting off and plan to get it done in the next 4 weeks if you guys couldn't hack it. That's a holiday well spend. You don't have to PM me. Just do what you do and we'll get on with our own thingy. :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TryOG:
Don't flame people, or the mods are going to get ya!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
other thing :p do u got GPS working?

now i have time to write something here again.

The test device isn't delivered yet and and we get now company vacations :D

I'm doing tests with my personal Device atm.

i bricked my Device now 8times by doing tests and got the luck to recover it

all the time again.

You aiondennis9000 only a pessimistic human... no constructive posts here

from you :rolleyes:

Do u want to have all my files and want testing all that things yourself?

I got now so many debug logs... so many other things... 8GB of Data

I can give it to u... but i think u only brick ur Device and u got nothing

working.

PS. Worked from friday to saturday on the wifi project 32hours...

i'm so tired of this, but i will do it till it work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
No000000oooo thank you!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
No thank you. I wouldn't want to be accused of using your stuff when we get the solution working and out on this board. Think of it as healthy competition.

If I were a pessimist I wouldn't bother working out the WiFi solution with my friends now would I? :D

ps: Still unsure about your GPS budd? :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
You want challenging us? GREAT
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
Stop the flaming and trolling NOW!

I know by firsthand experience that Valvarin and NetrunnerAT are putting quite a lot of both work and time into this.

If you don't have anything useful to contribute just go and hide under your bridges.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] craks:
No Wifi and GPS !!!!

I have opened a dual HTC touch, and a Touch, there is no WiFi chip, and still less that for the GPS !!!!!

The board is almost the same, but the chip and antena is not installed.

I think that your donations, you offered a new phone who are looking !?!?! :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
you sir are a tool.

The wifi is BUILT INTO THE PROCESSOR :rolleyes:

post anything unhelpful in this thread again and say hi to a shiny new ban.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
we have a running version!!!

now we rewrite the niki spl. it means ... it is present ... it works ... but we have display problem in the moment!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] xangma:
So you're saying you have Wifi working?!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
yes it does! but we aren't finish. we use experimental parts from different HTC Phones to get it up and running. This is why the display driver crash in the moment. this is the next reason why we doesnt public a youtube video. you only see a white screen and we need a PPC remote tool too switch and config wifi.

after the spl is rewrite, we need to write a tool, too flash some rom parts.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] xangma:
Wow awesome! So would you say you are far off? Or nearly there?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] iloveannie:
(y)

Sounds exciting :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cmonex:
edit: ooh I see the newest posts :)

that's very neat, congrats!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dcalisse:
check this out

hi guys i have been following this thread like a lot of people , the niki is just a great phone with one thing missing and that is the wifi option .

I would like to thank all the pros that are trying to make this work , i just came across cab file that the htc diamond uses as a comm panal and i tried to instal it

and too my surprise i found the wifi button that we can push to enable but when pushed nothhing seems to click , well anyway maybe there is a way to use this panel to somehow communicate with the wifi on the niki. those of you that install the cab will also see a numerous amount of wifi options .

huys dont know if this might help but just wanted to share this with yall >

http://www.4shared.com/file/48207087/60fd44f1/Diamond_C.html BQE1H
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fritsypeij:
I'm sorry to kill the excitement, but the dual also contains the wifi panel.

To get wifi working the team is building a modded radio rom.

So while you're flying your kite, the team is allready beyond the stars ;)

thanks anyway :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Untouchab1e:
Great work on the WiFi project, you deserve a lot of credit for the hard work you've done!

But, after reading through, it seems that you cant make WiFi work on the HTC Touch Dual without adding or replacing hardware? You say you have gotten WiFi to work, using parts from other HTC Phones, but does it mean that Wifi isnt something we would be able to get through software means only?

Just curious! :) Keep up the great work!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fritsypeij:
Parts of roms of other phones you silly :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
no, wifi will work without hardware modification! :) its gps that would require hardware changes. he was saying he using parts of other htc phones meaning software.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] xangma:
What kind of hardware changes?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
some chips like the RFR6300 transceiver connected to the processor. it would be complicated.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Untouchab1e:
Ah okies. Was just me who misunderstood. Read a bit too quick I guess!

Well, good luck with the project! Hope you get it working!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] vovasoft:
Can anyone tell when you will finish it (please) ?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ironmansp:
it will be finished when it was announced it was finished..

until these moment...just wait
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] shinji_73:
Qualcomm MSM7200 report

http://www.semiconductor.com/resources/reports_database/view_report.asp?pID=4773

Maybe the electronic gurus can find something useful here...

Unfortunately the reports are not free...:(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sumoboi@hotmail.com:
If you do manage the wifi hack will you charge for it? hmm I guess so! I suggest you STFU and let ppl work at their own pace mate!

keep up the good work wifi team we all know ur busy but like to keep the member updated!

Sumoboi

ps going to korea for 4 weeks on holiday and working on a hack is not a holiday well spent it chuffing sad mate.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mccannmarc:
haha how true
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
Maybe WiFi is hardware-available in Niki, but i think, that nobody can run this.

It takes so long, so i think that WiFi-Crew can't do this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mittchell:
They already did it.. read back a little..

I have full confidence in the WIFI crew to get the job done!

!!!RESPECT!!! :cool:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
We stuck in the moment on the Powermanagement. We get every time the same error, then the device crashs.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
--------------------------->

;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
Yeah.

Everybody trying to accomplish sth. difficult gets stuck from time to time.

Its some kind of looser filter god has implemented into life.

The winners keep on trying, the loosers troll the boards.

And you, sir, are even less.

You are a clueless looser.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
untaztood is the kind of guy that argues to get information out of people becuase he firstly doesnt understand and secondly is irritatingly impatient.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jockyw2001:
My "FrankenKaiser" SPL Loader could be helpful for the Wifi team.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
Thanks, once again...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
You really think I would waste my complete four weeks on it when we need far far less. Pfff. Friggin' tool u. How about this. No we don't charge and no we won't share untill my holday is finished. Idiot.

We did it already! I'm sporting my wifi on the streets of Seoul. We understand why the WiFi was killed by HTC though. It eats batterylife like mad crazy. But.....we did it! :D So have a nice friggin' day and FU....TOOL.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] xangma:
Why don't you share it then?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
THX ... yes its very helpfull! It make a lot easier! If you have time ... please contact me again ;-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Blackdragon_860:
yes @ aiondennis9000...

why don't you share the wifi with us..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
Answer is simply...

Becouse it's fake.

If I tell You, that i had in my Niki working WiFi, and i will not give You any proofs, did You believe me?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bdacier:
Well that's a bit early, it could be that he's cracked what were all looking for. Let's hope so! No way to tell. I guess that after his "holiday" he needs to deliver 'cause otherwise he'll get a sh*tload of flames.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
/signed

I'm eager to show him either a ****load of reverence or disrespect.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ChhiChi:
I realy hope we can have Wifi, if someone really crack the wifi already PLS PLS PLS share with us, I can wait to use wifi on my niki

Thank You
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joaosousa:
There is no one with wifi working on a niki device at the moment.

The only thing wifi crew can say is that we haven't stoped this project and we keep trying every day to make it work.

-------

If you(niki user's) think that you can't wait, maybe you should buy another device.

If you(niki user's) think that you can wait, then please don't keep asking for it or writting stupid things about this project, just sit on your chair and wait, when we get it working we will say it to everyone and we will release it.

Thanks for your pacience...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ChhiChi:
Thx guys wifi team, keep up the good work, can't wait to hear the good news from u guys soon

PEACE
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
No more doubt .. wifi antenna is here.

I was able to open a Touch Dual and definitively I can confirm there are 3 antenna in : GSM, Bluetooth and WIFI. About GPS, I don't know if the metallic case with copper sticked on it can be a GPS antenna ... not confident on this assumption. But I have no doubt for the WIFI. The internal antenna is present and connected. Now, no one can tell me the opposite.

So only two hopes : HTC will release an upgrade and enable Wifi or Developpement community can find a work around.

I use this phone with professional line and don't have any access to GPRS nor 3G. Wifi will definitively make me really happy with this phone.

Cheers.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] eroG:
hey thanks for the great news! now at least there is hope to have wifi and who knows perhaps also gps!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ariandax:
Great news guys!!!:):):)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Aqrab:
wow great news :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
yes!!!! very very great news!!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sackbauer:
this is really great news. let's hope that someone gets the radio rom fixed ;-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] p3600mio:
And that this is' good news.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] doksie008:
This is indeed very good news. Maybe I don't have to switch to another phone...let's wait and see if there will be an update soon
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] GpsPasSion:
Good news indeed, how do we know the black plastic thing is a wifi antenna though?

"metallic case with copper sticked on it can be a GPS antenna" - no that wouldn't normally be one, they either come as ceramic patch antennas or as PIFA (wire) antennas like on the Kaiser.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Morfeus1981:
Great news

Great news.

Now we discover only affects only the existence of GPS.

We hope that HTC releases shortly patch

Bye bye
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
I enclosed 2 new pictures to explain .... it's not the black plastic but you can see a golden metallic part connected to the left under the MB and running along the case (blue circle). It's the wifi antenna.

On the other picture, the GSM antenna is on the cover and connected to the pin in the red circle.

On pictures in my previous post, the Yellow circle shows the bluetooth antenna.

For the GPS, I forget to open metallic case under the copper to see if there is something . On the other side of the MB there is only Qualcomm ships and memory .. no further GPS antenna. But as said GPS is not important for me. Wifi first !! Sorry.

Cheers,
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Aqrab:
great :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] p3600mio:
We almost great
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] clonmult:
So it'll be a case of getting the right radio rom installed, and getting the radio enabled.