yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Not a all. The G5 series is replacing the G4 although the latter will likely remain available for some time. The E4 has a different demographic/geographic focus but will supposedly be available in Europe and North America, likely positioned as a budget phone.

The evolution you are seeing with the G4->E4 series regularly plays out in the consumer electronics, automotive and other industries. Fingerprint scanners were once exclusive to "flagship" devices; now some varients of the lowly E4 gets one. Amazing!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mkollersms:
That would be fine and dandy except 1) magnetometers are far from a new technology, 2) lenovo NEVER addressed the GPS faults and I got *****ed out by a rep over it, and 3) the OTA delay which should not have happened (though apparently part of the problem is the Bluetooth issue is affecting a huge amount of devices including the Pixel models themselves).

I did have the Moto E1 back in the day, and the fact it had the capacity to run CM14.0 was damned impressive. Of course, it wasn't without its faults either. A magnetometer should be in every phone and I don't understand why so many devices omit it. There's companies I won't so much as look at *coughSamsungcough* because it's such a powerful tool. You can't say that only flagships have it, since a lot of sub-$150 LG phones did (the Leon/Tribute2/Sunset for example). And I mean, the E1 didn't even have an LED flash. I was lucky to snag a cheap US Cellular model and do a Day-One Unlock.

But I would say I got far more use out of that phone than my G4P. I loved that phone, and this model has been a serious letdown. So it's like, do I want to give this company another $130 and risk being let down again? I personally won't. I plan to get a Sony Xperia L1 and let a family member have this one. It'll still have Lineage, so at least I'll be able to update the damned thing.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Hum...sounds like the G4P did not meet your expectations. I was fully aware of the GPS issues and sensor limitations (which were widely published) prior to purchase. I don't share your opinions on the base feature set for all phones but do believe proper advance research leads to a happier experience.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mkollersms:
Please tell me where you got this "advance research," because beyond Amazon user reviews (which I normally take with a grain of salt), I found no press coverage about any faults with this phone. Not even 6 months after its release.

EDIT: Actually, I'm going to double down on this, because Lenovo THEMSELVES insisted there was no coverage of anything being wrong with this phone either.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Christopher876:
Not at all. I picked up this Moto 4 Play for 35 dollars on Black Friday which I only use as a "play" phone. It does my social media checkup, remote for my Android TV, eBay selling management, etc.

I have a Moto Z Play as my main phone so not at all do I feel a slap in my face. However, you do need to realize though is that each year parts become cheaper which is the reason why they are able to offer such a package with the Moto E4 this year. If this was last year, expect it to have been more expensive.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Lol - of course Lenovo is going to deny there is an issue.

Bottom line: I was aware of the issues prior to purchase (actually bought two); the info was not difficult to find and came from multiple sources. The device meets my lowered expectations especially given the price point. My better half is passively seeking a replacement due to GPS issue. Sorry it didn't work out for you.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
How superior is SD425/427 to our SD410?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
http://bfy.tw/CLWb
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
I tried, and I found nothing, so I asked here. Next time, when you don't know something, don't hide yourself behind sarcasm, it's a waste of such a good rhetorical device.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Not a tough find as evidenced by the search query.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
Ok, I'm a moron, can you please tell me is sd 425/427 noticeably better than 410 for everyday use?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
I seriously doubt you are a "moron" but do feel you haven't extended much effort to find the answer. Following link references an article 3rd/4th in the search results. Short (spoon feed) answer is 'no'.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ips-bring-high-end-features-to-midrange-socs/
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
Of course I used Google first, but I really haven't found this, thanks, now I'm feeling a little less stupid for buying g4 play a month ago. :)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hp420:
Literally, the first result it brought me to was a side-by-side comparison with graphics, charts and beautiful illustrations detailing differences between the two chip sets.

https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-410-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-425

425 is so close to 410, I wouldn't even call it an upgrade. The only thing not 100% identical is 64-bit processing and a .2ghz nudge in top (factory defined) speed.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] twelfth:
Year old model replaced by something better a year later as technology allows. Get used to it. I'm not going to be pissed over something I bought in the past being eclipsed by something released in the future.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mkollersms:
I am honestly shocked by some of the replies I'm seeing. For ALL of the complaints I've seen on this forum (faulty GPS, problems with CDMA carriers, lack of OTA support after nearly a year, etc.), seeing you guys blindly justify the successor just... it boggles my mind. I would be more understanding if the price point for the E4 was the same as the G4P ($150). At least that would make sense from a marketing standpoint. But for them to slash the price to below the G4P, as if to imply that they're phasing out the G4P entirely, just screams that they have no intention of supporting it further. I think that's BS.

Yes, the media is claiming that June will have the drop date for 7.1.1. That's still far from definitive, and there's no guarantee Lenovo won't pull the same thing with Android 8.0 down the road. They just aren't that trustworthy. All I'm going to say is if I hadn't rooted mine, I could think of few equal/better phones for the price (Samsung Galaxy J3, ZTE ZMax 2, LG X Style).

Lenovo does not have a solid strategy with the Moto line. Until they admit to that fact, I'm not going to put my trust in them. It's your call whether you choose to do otherwise.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Not certain I follow this post. I purchased the G4P for three reasons: form factor (size), modest price point and ability to easily unlock the bootloader. OTA to stock Android 7.x (if it happens) is nice but not an entitlement on a budget handset. Zero expectation of going to Android 8. I have no problem with a nearly identical variant being rebranded and sold at a lower price as newer models are introduced. Common practice w/consumer electronics (consider your television, personal computer, etc). Trust? LOL!!

So what would you have Leveno do?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Jrhotrod:
That last paragraph I agree with you on. But everything else sounds like too much assumption and too little research. Although I didn't see the G4 play listed on Lenovo's support page, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to support a device released in 2016.

I am very disappointed in their strategy with phones. I bought the G5 Plus because of its fantastic specs for $260 (price matched @ BB with Amazon). I wish they introduced a G5 play, but considering the strange (re)introduction of numerous Moto lines (E, X, and introduction of C) I can see why. But they're really confused. I really wish Google kept Motorola.. we'd have 7.1 already and 8.0 ASAP. A real shame that a great American brand got bought up by some Chinese PC manufacturers that should've refrained​ from entering the mobile arena on the first place.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Marioandroid777:
Sd410 gives you around 28000 on antutu and sd425 around 35000.
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

Do you think it's okay?

I'm l31c432b160

I installed l31c440b382 update.zip http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v87647/f2/full/update.zip + datafull c432b370. FULL-OTA-MF-PV

reboot

Twrp 3.1.1.0, install b380 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...1/full/VNS-L31_hw_eu/update_VNS-L31_hw_eu.zip OTA-MF

reboot.

Removes twitter because there is a patch in b382 it bug, we reinstall it after with play store.

Install http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...2/full/VNS-L31_hw_eu/update_VNS-L31_hw_eu.zip OTA-MF

reboot.

Reinstalls twitter, goes to phone settings l31c432b382.

If there is a problem twrp install datafull c432b370, reboot goes to update ota, it offers b380.

So in the end I have c440b382 complete system file + new optimizations

In b382 goes to update system, parametre, there is in addition (update at night).
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] dkionline:
I don't know exactly, what you want to do and please remove picture with IMEI numbers.
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] SUPNYUS:
VNS-L31 B383 and B382 are coming very soon because they are in firmware finder. B385 and B384 are the next updates, because they are in firmware finder too.
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] dkionline:
yea, but every update got 2 versions without file difference.
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] SUPNYUS:
Yeah, so there is two updates in coming
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

It is a shame that the device only takes the update by dload card sd.

Do you think that if we change apk hwouc

Ex: P10, could our device do this?

http://www.htcmania.com/showpost.php?p=26214219&postcount=2
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] Chisetdel31260:
Just for fun
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] SUPNYUS:
How did you done this ?
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] Chisetdel31260:
What is your version today.?
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] SUPNYUS:
B380. Btw, What's new in the B384 ?
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] Chisetdel31260:
Ok you b380, I'm in b380 downloaded the otaMF file from b382

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...2/full/VNS-L31_hw_eu/update_VNS-L31_hw_eu.zip

With twrp install and reboot then looked at parameters.

Then looked at update there is update overnight.

For return b380 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...1/full/VNS-L31_hw_eu/update_VNS-L31_hw_eu.zip

What is a DAT file? There is information system in.?
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
--FOR MORE INFO AND NEWS ALWAYS CHECK MY LAST REPLY!--

Thanks for understanding!

PROJECT IS ABANDONED.

Regards,
[P8lite General] SuperProHacker:
Holy ****, finally. I cant try it out for my self cause i need to leave to malta tomorrow but i can try it later :)
[P8lite General] MegaStick:
MIUI Rom, finally!!!! :D

I hope they fix the bug as soon as possible
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
Again, the ROM is NOT bootable, I need logcats from you to fix the problem, hopefully.

So don't expect this to boot.

Thanks for understanding!
[P8lite General] Giuseppe300715:
Try to take a look here Logcats

I hope to have helped
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
I cannot open the link. It gives me an error.
[P8lite General] SuperProHacker:
He meant this link https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
[P8lite General] Giuseppe300715:
I just fix the connection

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[Universal] [Flashable] [Logcat] [Guide] So your test ROM build didn't boot

[UNIVERSAL][LOGCAT]How to get & read a logcat/ Troubleshoot your own issues!

That's all I've found and that can be useful for both this Rom and others that you will develop.
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
Thank you, but I know how to dump logcats. I asked you if you could provide me some logcats of the rom not booting from your device and send me.

Thank you.
[P8lite General] francolacca123:
Here's my logcat. http://www117.zippyshare.com/v/WcWK3ksX/file.html
[P8lite General] K4CZP3R:
I think there's problem with OpenGL

And if you would copy libGLES_mali.so to /system/lib64/egl?

Would it work?
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
Thank you for your logcats. I will see what I can do.
[P8lite General] Giuseppe300715:
How does it go with progress?
[P8lite General] lozohcum:
Should boot if you use custom kernel and copy&replace blobs
[P8lite General] XTutorials:
I am giving up on trying to fix that error message. I am trying to build AOSP 6 and then try again patchtom, hopefully I won't get that error.
[P8lite General] haky 86:
I know how to get miui booted, making aosp is not enough, there is changes you need to play with them like .rej files and boot.img too experienced on my old s2 plus i9105p. as I got stuck at animation boot.
[P8lite General] lozohcum:
MIUI ports were one of the most time-consuming ports. I'm not sure how does it look like today but I'm pretty sure it's identical to how it used to be. First you had to modify the ramdisk and then patch all java resourced and with a bit of luck you get bootable rom.

I'm really sick of seeing all those roms all based on 1 device tree which is not even fully functionall yet. People keep making "new" roms but all are actually the same, all have same list of non-working features. Just compiling different android distro with same device tree over and over.

XDA used to be place for original work and for people who put effort in their projects. Now kids keep spamming dev threads with copy&paste roms or useles threads.
[P8lite General] Vinnipinni:
Yeah. We have like 2 developers(one is a team) On this device. Haky and OpenKirin. And 6 "different" ROMs that all work the same, with the exception off the nougat FOMs, which have even more bugs.
[P8lite General] haky 86:
I don't think that...I'm a kid...I make my own roms with my tree...:angel:
[P8lite General] lozohcum:
I know man, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking in general. I know you're doing god work, despite I'm not developing anything since a long time I still read forum and follow what's happening.

Like [MENTION=7603052]Vinnipinni[/MENTION] said, 2 guys and 6 "different" roms. But all working the same.

Back in times people were more likely waiting for stable CM/AOSP before compiling bunch of other distros. Now it's just mess.

I really wish I could go back to developing for android devices, especially now when I have programming knowledge and experience.
[G4 General] cem_jimmy:
Nougat update for Turkey is now Available,Detail; source Langue only TURKİSH.

https://www.lgdestek.net/h960tr-lg-v10-android-7-0-nougat-turkiye-guncellemesi-35121/

English translete;

Today the LG V10[H960TR] 32 and 16 models with H960TR and H960ATR Android 7.0 Nougat update is released. The Nougat update, which began last week in South Korea, was later distributed in Hong Kong devices. The LG V10 Turkey models are starting to get Android 7.0 update via LG Bridge. The software version distributed with the LG V10 V30a version number includes the new android version.

LG has made a statement over the past few months and has reported that the Android 7.0 update for the LG V10 will be released in May and June. The update was stopped very late by LG. With the new software update, the LG V10 comes with new features. Among the most notable features are theme features and improvements to the interface. The smartphone has also received the most up-to-date security patch. Updated on security level as 01.05.2017.

Another innovation that came with the update was the update made to the fingerprint reader. It will be enough to take your finger over the power button inside the LG V20. By Berk koca
[G4 General] kouzelnik3:
Because they have released Nougat for V10 almost at the end of the June which is the last month of Q2, we will probably get Nougat sometimes in September as the last month of Q3.
[G4 General] cem_jimmy:
It's better than nothing ?
[G4 General] steadfasterX:
And another thread regarding the same thing...
[G4 General] raptorddd:
or the replies with no sense all other people writing .. waiting for my HXX to get it. we all waiting all variants why post you are waiting.. we all are.:p
[G4 General] TheMadScientist:
Oh boy nougat is coming. Lol. Be harder to root harder to downgrade and a load of new problems for us to all sort through

Ill just kick it on my stylo 3 nougat no root no fastboot. No dl mode no nothin just the way i like it.

U know a device is lost when the moderators aint eeven complainin about mutliple threads about the same things.

Lol sorry guys had to add mine in too

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Buddy i think u posted this in the wrong device thread this is for the g4s
[G4 General] cem_jimmy:
Lol ?
[G4 General] TheMadScientist:
Had to add my own cheap pun in.
[G4 General] s27moto:
waiting for update
[G4 General] raptorddd:
really,??:confused:
[G4 General] zizibuba:
Please tell us more about it.
[G4 General] htr5:
Apart from the security update and improved doze, there isn't really much to upgrade for if you've installed xposed. I might skip this update to save the trouble of installing all the tweaks again. It also avoids another chance of getting the bootloop
[G4 General] eriuzz:
And Vulkan don't forget that
[G4 General] raptorddd:
theres new uix. 5.0+ i believe. theme to make all dark. people saying smoother ui on V10 and less heat. also better battery.

itll bootloop even if you dont touch it. if its going to. i used to flash daily... and redo all tweaks. always do fresh installations. takes me hours..
[G4 General] Minto107:
I've also heard it improves performance but decreases photo quality. New UX, new camera UI, native theme support, doze on the go, vulkan API. For some more important it will fix camera and few other things in AOSP/CM based Nougat ROMs. I will most likely roll back to v20g-EUR-XXX lock bootloader update and unlock again :D I don't care about xposed, for me it was good in ICS/JB era but not in Nougat where there are hundreds of custom ROMs like RR, DU or AOSPA
[G4 General] raptorddd:
what would come first..? G4 nougat or xposed N.?:D

i need to learn how to live without it.
[G4 General] Minto107:
Most likely G4 will get Nougat first. I don't think xposed will get back. I met thing I've learnt for all those years that xposed only ruins performance and is cause of lots of FCs and all that crap. I remember getting xposed on this tablet. I could customise few more things but when I uninstalled it, I felt like I am using newer tablet. Xposed was slowing it down and ruining my battery life. It's time to move on and bury xposed once for good

Wysłane z mojego Lenovo TAB S8-50LC przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ithehappy:
I simply found this little trick which will let you have silent camera shutter, as you're entitled to have at first place. Some stupid regional thing made Google think as soon as you insert a SIM card you can't have silent camera shutter, whatever, their problem.

In any case, it couldn't be more easy. Just take your SIM card out of the phone. Reboot. Open camera settings. Then you'll see the option Camera sounds (see screenshot if needed), simply uncheck it, insert SIM back, done. Fortunately the setting will stick even after a reboot. Though you won't see that option there any more, until you use the SIM out again and reboot.

Wish there was a way like this for the screenshot sound. When SIM card is out of the phone, you simply put the phone to vibrate or DND, screenshot sound will disable too, but unfortunately after reinserting SIM the sound comes back :(

Enjoy.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
just unlock your bootloader, then do a fastboot boot twrp recovery, then delete the audio files
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] milan187:
That has not worked for a while, since Nougat release. Google made sounds part of the APK, the seperate files don't do anything.

Thanks for the tip, it even works on O DP3 and after a reboot with the SIM the option for sound is still there.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
I dont get it, the sound off option has been there since February.

Doesnt require anything special other than to open camera.app settings and toggle it off.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ithehappy:
That's because wherever you live the regional thing doesn't apply for you. So when you insert your SIM card the setting remains there, not for us, those who live in India and I'm sure we aren't alone either! Hope you get it now!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
You could also boot into recovery (not flash) , copy off the framework-res.apk, decompile it, open up values.xml and disable it from there
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SebaTuren:
is working for me, and today update to android 8 and continue working, THX!.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jerryhou85:
I can turn if off just from the camera app... I'm using a China SIM card.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CZ Eddie:
Google released an app update for Camera that allows the user to disable shutter sound.

Then it went away I guess.

Then came back again this week or last week via PlayStore update.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ithehappy:
Doesn't matter if an update was pushed or not, cause the moment an Indian SIM is inserted in the phone that disabling option will be gone. Obviously like I mentioned 100 times there is no such stupid law/rule in this country to have a damn option like that at first place but I think Google thought as Japan had to have it why not India as its in Asia too, I mean I don't know, I am trying to lower my IQ to think from Google's point of view.

That's the only simply way I found to have it disabled. Hope there indeed will be an update for real though.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kolyan:
Its there to prevent you from taking under skirt pics, Asia is famous for that crap ))
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ithehappy:
India is in Asia, Asia is not in India!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wolfballz:
This does not work for a Nexus 6. I found another way to silence the google camera easily also, put phone in dnd mode.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dieselboy:
I made sure to buy my Pixel XL when I was back in the UK and this was one of the reasons. Australian phones also have this inability to turn off the camera sounds. So when you're out walking in the park and want to take pictures of a wallaby or if you go to a wildlife park/zoo and want to get some photos of a koala you can't do it with an australian mobile phone because of the "I'M USING A CAMERA' noise that emanates and scares off the animals and makes people turn around.

Best way is to root and save a silence audio sound file in place of the real sound file although on previous phones I just deleted the sound file and it seemed to work fine. However, the system will still be calling for that file when you take a photo and will be getting a "file not found".
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Barons4000:
I have a Moto g4 play on Lineage OS and which time I update on nightly update. First most of the time I have to manually update it not though the OTA updates. Secondly which time it removes my Google services like the play store so I have to reinstall gapps each time I update. Which is every week I hope they fix this soon because it's making me want to change ROM and I love Linage OS but if they don't fix it soon I will have to install resurrection remix or something like that. Please help! ??