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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schaggo:
Aaargh... moneytoo beat me! :D

Congratulations! Herzliche Gratulation :) Excellent choice.

Die Symptome, die Du beschreibst, rühren von einer unsauberen Initialisation her. Um das ganze hinzukriegen, probier folgendes:

Als erstes Bluetooth auf der Uhr deaktivieren. Dann Bluetooth auf dem Asus deaktivieren. Mag paranoid sein, aber ich würd den Asus sogar mal softresetten. Der Grund: ich habe meine Uhr aktiviert, dann deaktiviert, dann bei smartWatchM Start gedrückt und sofort wurden (ein paar halbwegs defekte) Nachrichten von der Uhr empfangen, obschon diese aus war. Ein Softreset würde dann alle anstehenden Nachrichten definitiv löschen.

Um sauber zu initialisieren: Die Uhr noch aus lassen. Dann das Gerät ein, Bluetooth ein, bei smartWatchM auf Start. Wenn er auf die Kommunikation wartet, bei der Uhr Bluetooth aktivieren, sonst aber noch nichts tun. Wenn das Pairing sauber ist, sollte sich die Uhr automatisch anmelden. Die Initialisation ist nun sauber gelaufen, und alle mit deiner Konfiguration (Asus=kein Wetter) möglichen Funktionen sollten einwandfrei gehen. Viel Glück beim Probieren!

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The symptoms you told are because of a faulty initialisation. Try the following:

Firstly deactivate Bluetooth on the watch, then on the Asus. It may sound paranoid, but I would even softreset the Asus. Reason: I once activated the watch without hitting Start in sWM. I then deactivated Bluetooth on the watch and hit Start. Immediately sWM received some commands from the watch, which were broken (no linechanges and squares). I reckon, commands are being queued and sent to sWM once you hit the start button, resulting in an improper initialisation. Softresetting would definitely clean everything out.

To do the initialisation: Leave the watch off. Turn on the device, activate Bluetooth and hit the sWM Start button. Once the program is waiting for commands, you can activate Bluetooth on the watch. If the pairing was successful, the watch will automatically start to send initialisation commands. Now everything possible with your configuration (Asus=No weather and such) should work. Good luck mate!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
Yes, I know about the problem with "Incomplete/Unclean initialization" but it do not solve the Problems with:

It only solve the "Vibrate, but NO Display Text on Watch" Problem.

At least not with me :o

Oh, good you know about the problem :)

Maybe later ?

Or, a start Parameter like "smartWatchM -starthide"

Thanks for your help, also schaggo

But I hope the best, we are only at the beginning ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schaggo:
Does Asus use another software system than HTC? Isnt the SMS application based on Pocket Outlook and thus the same for everybody? Weird... Well, I'm not a programmer, I cant help then. Moneytoo will look into it, I'm quite sure.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
?

I do not know
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Pernod99:

Check the test commands:

SMS - displays envelope, vibrates and displays text "new sms"

Does it work?

Do you have Wifi turned on? (there are problems with wifi for now)

Do you get of of range? The watch may not reconnect succesfully... It works for me but not may be 100% every time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
Yes, work very well, THX
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paultnl:
ordered my watch

Moneytoo,

Thanks for developing such a useful app. I have ordered my 150 and sent a donation of $20

Can I ask that someone posts a simple step by step installation guide for the T-mobile Ameo running WM6. I have read through all the posts but have gotten confused by all the different bits.

Thanks again,

Paul
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Hi Paul,

thanks for this support.

Unfortunately there are is no simple installation guide. Sometimes the registry, watch, ports, etc. may act unpredictable so I guess everyone here spent some time looking for the right setting.

As you recieve the watch, try to use schaggo's guide. If there is anything unclear, just ask where you're stuck and we all will try to help you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
Hello,

sorry for MY next "Bug" :o

If I was only one time "Out of Reach", I MUST new connect.

Otherwise I have "Vibrate, but NO Display Text on Watch" .

Maybe a SE Hardware Bug ? Or a moneytoo Software "Bug" ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
I know about this problem. It requires to add some checkings and try different setting, timeouts of com ports. Its on my list but still not enough time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bpv:
I am thinking about buying this watch but I was wondering how big it is. I searched the internet but nowhere the size is stated. Can anybody tell the size of the case. I am mostly interested in the Classic edition.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
I only know the weight: - Music: 85g - Classic: 77g - Exec: 182g
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
OK

Please remain at it also at the others problem...

THX
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iruja:
Literally the first page with googe images, did you really look?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
please, confirm me... the watch vibrates when a incoming call is arribed ?

regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnil:
Congrats! I use the same watch, and love it so far :-)

If you add SWM to the exclusive programs-list in "Task Manager", it should be minimized (just like an "in tray" program at your PC). It maybe called other things than "exclusive", but if it possible on your device, you will most likely be able to fix it in the Task Manager.

Good luck :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
What extra features can't be used with MBW100

Sorry if this has been answered in the past - but I was just wondering what extra features are not usable by the MBW-100? Can you be more specific, will I not be able to use SPB weather with the MBW-100, etc?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] miguel_acedo:
Battery drains very quick

Hi, I have an Abacus watch and the Diamond 1.60F MiChY ROM with WM 6.1 and the Radio version 1.57, I have installed smartwatch and configured the watch but the battery on it drains very quick, it does not last for a day, is there a fix for it? Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gtm55:
I understand that you have an Athena, if that, than you should change the rom, the bluetooth stack is the cause for the draining, you can use ap4, ap5, taxist rom: 5-7 day battery life for your watch
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

I'm just trying to pair with an LG KS20. I put my watch into pairing mode and start "Discover and pair".

Now, as soon as I do that, the program will say "Cannot find any unpaired BT watch."

I've master-reset my watch about three times not, so it should be unpaired for sure.

I have a feeling that the app doesn't really search for watches because the "Cannot find"-message comes up pretty much immediately after I hit "Discover and pair"... Could it be the non-MS bluetooth stack? Someone reported that your great program worked just fine with Broadcom/Widcom stack in Motorola's Q9.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Nightcookie

The auto pairing feature works only with MS Stack. The main communications with the watch is using COM port so it's Stack independent. All you have to do is to pair the watch using the default Bluetooth manager. Then add new incoming/inbound COM port. If the selected port is not listed in sWM menu, edit the registry key manually (go to hklm\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm, edit incomingport item). Then restart your device and try the connection. Yep, this works on Motorola. I dont have any access to LG so I cant try.

miguel_acedo

Probably some issue with BT Stack. Is original ROM ok?

cell_crazy

Yes, SPB weather will work. The menu control is crazy but it it will do.

harvsingh

Im not sure if the headset uses serialport connection. Headsets are usually connected using different services. But I could add a HBH-DS980 to the list of accepted devices so you could try. I will see.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] miguel_acedo:
Original ROM

I tried first with the original ROM and I have the same result that is why I try to use a different one, the ROM I am using right now works great except for that problem with the battery, the other ROMs that the people in the forum suggestme needs to change to SLP 3.5 but I am not shure about doing that.

So is there a chance to change only the bluetooth stack without changing all the ROM, or maybe a parameter at the register that I can modify?

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pernod99:
@Moneytoo

PLEASE

program for

Symbian60 3rd

Devices/Software OS !!!!!

THX from ALL S60 3rd (Nokia, Samsung ....) User !!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

thanks a lot for the quick reply! Sounded good, but ...

... now I'm running into problems at this early stage. Bluetooth Manger can see the watch but says it's unable to connect because the watch doesn't provide any supported protocol. I tried connecting manually but have to choose between High Quality Audio, Headset, PIM Sync, ActiveSync, Send Files, Connect to Network, Connect to PAN, Exchange Business Card, or Set Up Keyboard. That's it, and none of these is able to connect to the MBW-150. There's a "Examine BT device for supported profiles" option, but that doesn't recognise any supported profile in the watch.

I think that's odd because I can see in the BT settings that Serial port connections should be supported ...

What do I do?

:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZMDK:
Last week I also bought me a symbian powered device so I would like a Symbian client too.

I also have to say I liked your WM6 client very much.

(BTwatch broke down my watch when is crashed and let my screen burn in, now I can't see anything unless it's completely dark)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nilmot:
EDIT: Nevermind.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madbird:
hi after some weeks of using the new version (including a business trip), i can say that the problem with dropping the bt connection while a call is in progress is nearly gone for me, before it was 2 times a day, now it happens 1 time a week.

sometimes the bt stack seemes to crash anyhow (when not in a call), in that case i have the following ways to recover:

1. switching off/on the bt headset and the watch, helps in 90% of the time.

2. switching off/on the bt on the advantage, is helpfull if the headset reconnects but not the watch.

3. switching off/on the headset the watch and the phone, helps in 100% of all cases, but is the most work.

on the battery drain isue, i can say that it dosent matter if i get 3 or 30 'events' on the display of the watch, the watch is empty after a day. really seems to be an issue that the advantage btstack keeps the connection to the watch alive in a way that the powersaving functions of bt at the watch, wont become active.

hope this helped, greetings mad

*edit*: i think that the rest of the probs are from the btstack that the advantage uses in wm6.1., it seems to dislike sony products, a sony hbh-ds-220 bt headset (used alone without other bt devices like the mbw-150) makes the same crashes of the advantage btstack.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
I just returned from a month long business trip in Poland, where my Sprint Mogul didn't work for anything but an alarm clock. I installed the latest 1.0.2.0 and although I've only made a few phone calls, I have to say that I haven't experienced any BT headset dropouts at all, nor have I lost the MBW-150's BT connection while on the phone either. So far, I would say your "tiny little change" has made all the difference in the world! :)

I have never had any battery issues, and am still showing a full charge on my watch after two days of minimal use with BT on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JimSmith94:
Sorry to have to make this update. I use the same BT headset for the Cisco soft phone on my laptop, and noticed a lot of static during phone calls. Then I made a call with my PPC-6800 and noticed the same thing. I had missed it earlier, but the MBW-150 watch was losing and regaining its BT connection while this was going on.

For now, it looks like the best solution is if Moneytoo can add the functionality to turn off BT on the watch during phone calls. I'll still have to remember to do it manually while using the Cisco soft phone though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

can you please please please advise how you managed to pair the watch with a device that uses the Widcom/Broadcomm stack (e.g. Motorola)?

I've read that you did, and have some ideas about that,

so you probably could give me my MBW-150 back! :)

Many many thanks,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Nightcookie

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2102327#post2102327
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

thanks for the quick reply!

Yeah I know, I've read that, but

the problem is that I cannot pair using BT Manager

. Just like you said in post #901:

I seem to have the same issues that you encountered first. That's why I said a couple of posts up:

I've read around a bit, and it seems the Bluetooth Manager does not connect because it sees no supported service. Like you said, MBW-150 does not send Service Discovery Protocol. As the watch isn't telling the phone that it supports serial profile, the phone doesn't know what to do with it and will not pair.

Any ideas? It would be so great if I could pair my phone and my watch, I'll be happy to try the workaround you provided for COM port setup.

Many thanks,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Nightcookie

I had similar experience with some HP iPaq and I just gave up.

Can you replace the BT stack? I donk know much about it but I heard of some people that replaced their BT stack.

Maybe you could use some other software that has Widcom/Broadcomm BT capabilities to pair using it. (Just an idea)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CraKenDK:
Hi

I have a Sony Ericsson G900 (Symbian OS). Is it posible to "convert" this great software to work on symbian?

Best regards

Kenneth
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tack:
Great piece of software!!!

I just had my MBW-150 Executive watch today after waiting 4 loooong days for delivery. I´ve been reading this thread a lot and smartWatchM v.1.0.2.0 has been succesfully installed on my HTC Touch (a.k.a. Elf, a.k.a. P3450). Just can´t wait to have my first real call etc.

Moneytoo, you´re great :) Thanks a lot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karmarock:
MBW-150 and battery drain on the watch report

About the issue of watch's battery dying in less than one day on Athena please refer to this post.

I think that now there are a bunch of good ROM that solve the issue also on WM6.1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=408380
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
MBW Battery drain

I am having huge watch battery drain issues the watch only holds a charge for 12-13 hours. After reading through this forum I understand that if I change "bluetooth stack" it will help improve battery life greatly. Not sure if I'm using the right terminology.

I currently have a HTC p4000 (HTC titan) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=770&view=1

I do have the lastest rom that HTC offers on their site. Could someone please help me fix battery drain issue. I have no idea what I have to do to change or install "stacks" or if I need to install a new rom. I am very new at this and I do not want to brick my phone.

Please help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madbird:
hi i use pweather 2.0.6 3342 and it works well on the phone, but on the watch when the stop button is pressed the watch only display:

Today: 'the name of the selected town'

High:* Low:*

or on playbutton:

Tommorow: 'the name of the selected town'

High:* Low:*

so it reads the name of the town corectly but fails with the rest. is there somting i missed?.

another fine (and free) way to get the weather info was a script written by schettj that is written with (the also free and fine ;)) mortscript, it was written to set the weather for the s2u2 programm. maybe it is possible to support it in smartwatch, for those who dont want to spend money for some simple weather info.

mad
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Here's another update of smartWatchM, now in version 1.0.2.1. There's no major new functionality but there are some bug fixes and small enhancements (possibility to display battery % as a number on the main messaging info screen).

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madbird:

Maybe it's just new incompatible version of PocketWeather. I will test it and check out the script as well.

cell_crazy:

There usually is no problem with battery life (except some HTC Advantage ROMs) so I guess you could try a new ROM from cookers here at xda-devs.

Karmarock:

That's a good news.

ken4000:

SE watch doesnt work with SE phone? Nice. :D At least Symbian UIQ on M600 was ok. It's possible to run .NET Compact framework (1) on S60 but it's way to limited (probably no BT) and I have no knowledge of Symbian development.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
How long should battery last

So Moneytoo you're saying it isn't a rom issue - so could I have a defective watch?

How long should the battery last for the MBW - mine is brand new but like I mentioned the battery only lasted less than 12 hours.

Not sure if it's normal when i charge it from dead battery it only takes 2 hours to fully charge it - is that normal for the MBW?

Can people let me know how long there battery lasts and how long it takes to charge - I need to know if I have a defective watch.

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
cell_crazy:

Most probably it is caused by BT Stack/power management/software/registry settings (who knows) but it IS the ROM issue. Other ROMs may be ok so I recommend you to try other ROM or wait for other users responses. 99% it's the ROM problem, not defective watch.

2 hours charge and 3-14 days is the usual battery life.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
Thanks for the reply moneytoo,

It's good to hear you say that you think it's most likely the ROM - but I just want to rule out that the watch isn't defective because if it is I have to return it quickly.

I charged the watch completely and used it again for second day. It worked perfectly throughout the day - the battery display on the watch showed a full charge, but again on the 13th hour the watch vibrated and notified me it was disconnected, smartwatchM displayed "Error 002" and then the watch no longer had power in it. Even the analog watch no longer moved - because it no longer had power.

Several questions Can you please let me know what Error 002 is, would that cause the battery drain or are you pretty sure it's ROM?

Why would the watch display full battery power and then suddenly die - wouldn't it display battery drain

If it is the ROM why is it causing drain on watch but not the battery life on HTC seems fine
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shaileshashar:
Incoming COM port !

I have been using this program since a long time now.

Every time I flash a new rom / buy a new device, I need to reconfigure everything and espcially troublesome is the com port setup part.

I hv seen pcfixitman's alternative - btWatch and it seems that developement is stopped, but his 'connection and setting up watch' part is very easy and does not require any com port settings.

Can anything be done for this ? Can we also take a backup of our menu setting so that it can be easily restored ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karmarock:
Charge full your watch, disable bluetooth connection over it.

This way your watch should last from two to four weeks before the watch's arms stop. If it lasts less service it!

I would suggest starting to navigate your device's forum and flashing the latest ROMS ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gtm55:
I have one problem with the latest version 1.0.2.1, when connected it constantly wake up my athena and drain power... i'm the only one with this kind of problem?

1.0.2.0 is working absolutely ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
ok well it's definetly not the watch, because when it's not connected to my HTC the battery does not drain immediately.

I am however getting error codes all over in smartwatch

Error 016

Error 022 (Multiple times)

Error 008

Error 017 (Multiple times)

Error 002

moneytoo is can you let me know what these errors are (is there somewhere that lists what the error codes are). Could these errors be causing battery drain?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
cell_crazy:

Yes, it's not the watch but neither smartWatchM. This errors are only notifications (sms, calls, missed calls) that couldn't be send because the watch wasn't connected or the connection wasn't opened.

The battery drain is caused by your BT Stack / ROM / some setting - I dont know - If I knew, I would fix it (but it affects only a small number of devices).

To prove it, connect your paired watch to your device without running smartWatchM. The watch battery shoulld be drained in a similar time.

shaileshashar:

Making the connection similar to btWatch is one of my targets. I've tried but it's not that easy as handling COM ports. Anyway, using COM ports has one big advantage - it's BT Stack indepentend (only need is to pair the watch and create a port). If I learn how to do it, I will make it. :)

To backup the menu and other settings, just export registry keys from HKLM\Software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm.

gtm55:

Are you sure it's caused by smartWatchM? This behaviour is usual caused by power management on devices such as Samsung Blackjack (I, II, III... this is the Samsung Backlight fix that turns of backlight but I'm looking for better solution) but HTC should be ok. Try pairing your devices again / deleting your setting (in registry, delete key mentioned above).

madbird:

Use the latest version of PocketWeahter 2.0.8.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
Ok so i've upgraded to a different ROM and Radio - now the watch doesn't even seem to connect.

I am able to find and pair, I register the port, restart when I start smartwatch again is has comes up with the standard - "Waiting for connection, press a button on the watch"

I hit the a button on the watch and nothing happens, any suggestions? Is this new ROM the problem?

At least with the old ROM I was able to connect the watch, now I'm getting nothing.

I have a p4000 (HTC Titan) and upgraded to DCD 3.2.5 ROM using Radio 3.42.30

I will try upgrading to radio 3.42.50 and let u know if problem still exists.

Does anybody use a HTC Titan and run smartwatch without problems, if so which ROM and Radio do you run?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
Yeah upgraded to Radio 3.43.50 and still having the same problem.

I'm able to discover and pair, but then watch immediately disconnects smartwatch says paired successfully. I register COM port and restart, but watch never connects afte that.

Please help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Have you tried all the COM ports (restart is required after port change)? Because some of them are often locked by the system and cannot be used.

If you see the press a button request, try turnin bt on your watch off and on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cell_crazy:
Thanks moneytoo!

Yes changed to Com port 0 and it seems to work like a charm now - thank you for the advice.

I'm hoping the battery drain no longer happens with the new ROM installed. Do you happen to know if different com ports may cause battery drain issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bremair:
Hi moneytoo, I just got some time and play with my MBW-150. At the beginning you thought about a caller logo for private call where the number isn't transmitted. I found my old nol-logo for that but it still doesn't work. What should be the name of that file? unknown.nol? Do you think you will add it in the next version? It would be great.