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[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] jazzypit:
19. Muffled car Bluetooth sound quality . More then one call sounds fed horrible comparing g to the s8.

same problem in my car. i found sound is muffled . with my s8 sound is clear . maybe with a update htc can resolve the problem
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
no one wants to listen mate believe me, i did the same experiment by getting Exynos and SD s8, turns out the widely reviewed SD s8 is better, way better but can not touch the u11 still check my conclusions here

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72761996&postcount=55924

Exynos 8895 is a flop it can't play the silliest of games properly, let alone the UI which lags in every corner, yet we have people defending the very worst version of the S8, you cant blame them, as the super hyped phone can not be bought with Snapdragon anywhere in the world but the America
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] fernando sor:
That's funny because it seemed when I was on the s7 everyone said I wouldn't have my problems if I had the exynos lol.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
yes because with SoC you shouldn't let history predict the future, coming from the legendary S801 did anyone expect the S810 to flop? not really, every new SoC depends on a number of variables before it can succeed, the Exynos and Kirin have been on good wave for the past two years but this year the mess that is Mali G71 failed them both especially with the massive GPU core count on the 8895, its just a thermal trap

Adreno 540 is just a mobile GPU miracle
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AllGamer:
I'm returning my U11...

Just because they made the RED colour available 2 days after I purchased mine :D

so, now I'm waiting for the RED ones to arrive.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
(Un)lucky for me, Sprint doesn't carry the red anyway, so no hard feelings there.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 4ktvs:
I bet the 16 G71 cores would work well on a thicker device able to spread the heat better. The S801 was a great chip and it worked well on my Z3 compact though it could get quite warm due to the smallish foot print not easily getting rid of heat.

The S2 GTi9100 was the very cream of the crop back in it's day SOC wise. Fast as heck it was, because even the latest iPhone seemed to lag against it. Sadly those days are gone with Samsung, but luckily both HTC and Sony make nice clean fast devices.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] waldaz:
can`t wait for my silver to arrive, from all reviews it is best phone in the market so far.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] stargate1000:
I had to return mine (dropped in the sink for 4-5 secs), the phone went went into meltdown mode. Firstly the pressure sensors started just activating without even holding the phone, water ingress onto the sides of the screen, front and rear camera lens steamed up, the touch sensitive buttons on the front failed. to top it off the sim card tray was soaking wet.

At first I thought the sim tray seals failed but I actually think at the top where the screen meets the metal frame, there was a small less than 0.5mm gap!!!! in a nutshell I had to dry the phone out in rice, still had screen water damage but only visible on light back grounds. The lens areas just wouldn't clear so I took it back to the shops as in the UK we have a 14 day window for exchanges. I loved the phone, loved the camera. However I just opted for an Iphone 7 plus 128gb instead. Inferior camera but I wanted something with a more reliable build.

Would not have exchanged had it not died!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 53fireman:
How do you like the iPhone? I think I'm sending back the U11 and gonna get the new iPhone when it comes out in Sept. Never used one and generally hate the idea, but the lack of full at&t compatibility and lack of decent cases is making it happen.

HTC had made some great phones, and this one is awesome minus the lacking LTE bands, support, and heavy-duty cases...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Mine will be on its way to repair as a result of the fact that I saw this gap on the top as well on my black Single SIM unit. Will wait until it hopefully returns into my hands within the next two weeks. Service of HTC has been extremely fast. After initial contact, I received a call just 20 minutes later to check what exactly the problem is. Another ten minutes later I got a mail with all needed information to send it in. Will deliver it at the postal office tomorrow and see how it works out.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] gunnyman:
Think I'm returning mine. I got about 36 hours of use on Verizon before it just stopped connecting. Unlocked the bootloader, so I hope they take it back.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
Posts like this in U11 forum is prone to get flamed. However, I am returning mine as well for some of the reasons that OP posted.

I have a G6, U11 and S8+ in my hands now, while U11 is a lovable phone, but it doesn't perform as consistent as the other two would. I don't generally give comments without trying first, and I bought all of them to try. Minor stuff irritates me (personally):

- Violent vibration motor with no option to tone it down. I enjoy strong motor, but the U11's is just intrusive

- lack of multi window

- lack of gallery app. I know I can get any off app store, but I do enjoy OEM maker's gallery app. Strange I know, but that's my preference.

- after using the other two, 18:9 fits my hand better than U11's fat body

- usb type c connector is not for me

- Silly, but lack of screen protectors is a true turn down for me knowing I want to keep the phone for a while

Good things

- Stellar camera

- stockish android

- sense (i personally like)

- beautiful screen

- great sound

With that said, I will be back for the next HTC. I appreciate what they have done and they are definitely competing in the flagship market, it's a stellar phone just not for me.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
There is multi window

And screen protectors are just as much of a problem with the s8. LG g6 is really the only flagship with a completely flat screen
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
Isn't the S8 and G6 USB C as well? And.as for consistency....your mileage may vary, I guess. You are the first tat I have seen with this complaint. Oh well...better luck next year. Let me know what that device is like, because I don't see myself upgrading for a while, unless my phone breaks.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
Sorry, i mean USB C in replacement of the jack! It works great, but I prefer a less cumbersome solution. My SBH-80 and MDR-1000X works great with it though for the times that I use bluetooth.

Good to know, let me take a second look.

I agreed, one dislike of the S8 for me. However it's more understandable because it's actually curved in as the display. U11 is just the glass, not even necessary.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Digitalkarma:
you could just get Viper Rom to tone down the haptic feedback and also get the HTC Gallery app back through Aroma. that would solve 2 of your dislikes. also there is a multitask window its a native feature of Nougat, bout time HTC put that in i dont think it was included in the HTC10 until almost a year laterwhen they got the Nougat update.

what it really boils down for you is the form factor and convenience that you get with the S8 which is understandable. if HTC can add feature like Always On Display in their next version that would be great. HTC still has some catching up to do but are getting there.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 4ktvs:
The vibration motor seems really weak to me on the HTC U11, I also am I not a fan of 18:9 screens but that's just my personal taste just like you liking them is yours. I also want the screen at a size I can do everything with one hand, my Z3 compact at 4.6 did this but phones like the S8 and the HTC U11 don't because of how freaking tall they are. The only way to fix it is a smaller screen but in flagship phones that would be going against the trend. My dream is for the screen measuring contest to end soon between OEM's. I don't know how likely it is that it will happen but my hope is that it will happen and happen in the next 2 years. That and putting removable battery's back in.

I get the lack of the standard headphone jack sucks though, but though the USB port it does work well.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] altimax98:
My vibration motor is like the other poster, ifs really really bad but strong. I was going to root and whatnot anyways so I ran a custom kernel and turned I down a bit.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
I guess those of you who complain about the strong vibration motor never used a Nexus 6. That thing could massage knots out of your back. Lol.

I find the motor to be weaker than preferred, actually, but I grew to like it.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Flynnchen82:
The BlackBerry of a collegue can shake all the table at work :D

But i guess i know what they mean. S6 and S7 that i tried had a very smooth vibration. All HTCs i had were more on the rude side. But otherwise i could sometimes miss a call etc with the samsungs. However, U11 is fine for me and vibration alone never could be a dealbreaker.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] godofpornings:
Lack of multi window? Well the u11 has multi window .

Lack of gallery app? Erm there's photos. Might be Google but it's comes as stock and there's many many more you can download off the play store

18:9 fits your hand better? True true, but that brings me to my next point...

Usb C is not for you? So I guess that rules out the s8 and LG g6...the only two with a 18.9 screen

Lack of screen protectors. Hmmmmmm true but there's quite a few on Amazon and eBay but due to the 2.5D curve of the screen it's abit annoying, kinda like the iphones. The g6 has the best type imo but then again the s8 is even more harder to come by in the screen protector side of things so basically both s8 and g6 rule you out due to the usb C and screen protectors. Great

So what other phone you looking at?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
I find with my HTC 10 that a wallet style case removes the need for a screen protector. I use the Ice View and the HTC Klik and they protect the screen very well. HTC has an official leather wallet style case looks really nice and allows you to answer calls through it. I also saw someone post this screen protector, not sure if it is any good or not but maybe worth the try.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] skypilotofhope:
I love my Ice View case and lament this feature not being offered in the U11. I did order the protective leather (white) case so we'll see how this goes.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
I love mine as well, it gets a bad rap. It has protected my phone just as good or better than other cases and my screen is as good as new. It's nice being able to do without a screen protector. I hope they return the Ice View with the U11
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
I agree, but I've gotten to the point where I don't want to flash my phones anymore. I used to do it and love it, but time is more valuable as you grow older. Phones nowadays do 95% of what I do, and I prefer not to spend my time tampering it. :)

I found the multiwindow as the other person suggested!

You must have a defective U11 if your vibration motor is weak. Another friend of mine observed the same thing about the motor. I do agree with the screen size. The Pixel, G6, S8 hit the sweet spot for me personally for my hand size. I went with the S8+ for the larger battery size and got used to the taller size.

Yup, I actually ordered a wallet case with it. While I always liked wallet case, and have bought OEM wallet cases for all my phones...I can't seem to stay on it for too long, it's a bit too clumsy for my liking. The protector looks good though!

Yes, I already acknowledged it on the post before yours.

Google photos doesn't run as efficient as a bone stock gallery app. It fetches photos from your google photos and tends to drain more data than it should. It also runs generally a bit slower than a typical OEM gallery and lesser feature. Also, I enjoy using what OEM makers put on their phone and gallery just seems to be a core basic that I find it disappointing that they left it out.

Yes it does, it will also fit better on your hand.

I already said it above - I meant removable of headphone jack and depending on usb C for the DAC. I've been on USB C since the 6P back then and loved it.

Have you tried the ones on amazon and ebay? Let me know which one fits find "like the iphones ones". I am 100% fine for one that doesn't have full coverage, but none seems to be able to do it.

I am using skinomi on my S8 and have ordered one for my U11. I hate it, but that's the only solution. Again, none of these are true deal breaker, but when you add it all up, why would I go with a phone that needs to make so many compromises (in my personally opinion and situation) when S8+ or G6 works great right now?

There are other minor but important feature that matters to me on the S8, such as - bluetooth volume sync'ing between phone and headset, smaller fonts when everything is set to minimum, AIO, faster camera launch (i assume U11 will fix that lag with software updates), while U11 has better details in the sound, S8+ seems to be a bit more pleasing to my ears, it's a bit buggy with connecting to android auto on my Golf R and bluetooth sometimes sound muffled on my M2.

Again, these are minor things, but adds up. While S8 isn't perfect, there are less noticeable issues in my usage.

I am using S8+ as primary, and will keep it until Pixel 2 or next phone comes out. I might visit the OP5 sometimes. I usually get all flagship phones just to try as this is a hobby for me, and I was being honest about my own personal opinion and preferences, just wanted to share them. HTC has done really good, just not for me this round. Don't take anything I say here as offensive (as you sound like you did), I am sure every happy owner here finds enough reason to love this great U11 like how I prefer my other phones. :)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] godofpornings:
Well that sounds reasonable to me. I owned the LG g6 and sold it to get the u11. I do miss the g6 but the sound quality via headphones socket was lacking. If I got the Korean version then all good but LG like to be complete and utter twats and divide features for different countries.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
I wanted to get the H870DS but it's lacking Band 17 which I believe I need here in Canada/Toronto area. I adore that quad camera system a lot as well, although it's a bit slower than I like for launching and snapping pictures.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] therock3181:
Telus uses B12/B13/B29
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cedropol:
Hello, I am pretty upset about lcd quality. I have examinated 4 (!) pcs and everyone has 1 bad pixel (black), generally in lower part of the screen.

Is there any way to find a best batch? For now I will wait a bit of time or go for S8/S8+ (upgrading from Note 4).
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] domberone:
ok Iam just move from galaxy s8 to U11 becouse - its fill in my hands for me like a kind of toy,like as plastic, was so easy to scratch on the sides, after spending montain of cash for screen protectors realise that, no one stick for week on screen, sound on my momentum bt was so pure compare with my last m10, after many years with HTC, I cant just to use samsung software, strange bigsbe button, but mostly filling like I bay this only for how its look, for first time poison infect me and that is bad. I did notice on market thatI will t exchange s8 for u11, yesterday contacted with me, a man from HTC and took my samsung used in exchange for u11, he did not even check what is in the box, he threw it into the trunk and gave me choose the color of new phone. Since yesterday I returned to htc in best possible way. Long life for HTC!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheRelaxedFlier:
What?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] adi.97:
Bought this phone yesterday and I'm in love

I previously used the note 5 but anyway I gotta say that this phone is almost ducking perfect.. It knly needs Bluetooth 5
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Ask and you shall receive

And I will give you your first "thanks" Lol
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] joshiameya:
Yea saw that, it's been almost 2 months now since that tweet.

Nothing further, I doubt it's coming
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
Wow a whole two months? It will be coming to our device, I'm in no rush as there are few devices that Bluetooth 5.0 anyways.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
We already know it is capable so there is no doubt there and we have verification it will be coming. Your post is senseless.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] joshiameya:
Well if it does that's great, i need to be patient, I agree
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
That's the spirit! :highfive: Lol
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Still a 5 month wait in the most optimistic scenario, hardly "right around the corner".

Supply wasn't an issue if you ordered when it became available. I ordered a black XL 128 GB on October 4, it was shipped on October 21.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
I followed the threads lol Some that even ordered on Oct 4th didnt get them till december lol Thats bad supply. You're crazy if you think otherwise.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...d_madebygoogle_ordershipping_status/?sort=new
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Just had to order early enough in the day ) This year LG rather than HTC is the ODM, at least for the XL, so the supply might be less tight.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
And quality will be suspect.

The stock issues have always been based on Google's extremely conservative estimates of how many units they will sell, not the ODM's inability to keep up with demand. It's ludicrous to think that it's the ODM rather than Google at fault.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Lol. I know I'm glad I didn't get the pixel and waited for the HTC. Your argument is senseless.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Maybe LG will finally learn its lesson this year. Let's check back in around October 2018.

Maybe Google will finally learn its lesson this year. Let's check back in around November 2017.

Never said you should have bought a Pixel or not waited for U11. What I said is that the HTC release date was not "around the corner" from the Google one this year (7.5 month wait) and won't be "around the corner" next year (5 month wait at best). I have both devices and I'm perfectly happy with them for different reasons.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] joshiameya:
https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/04/googles-2017-pixel-forgoes-increasingly-common-flagship-features/
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
LG hasn't learned since they completely screwed all of us that bought the G2x in 2011, I doubt that they will change now. LG single handedly killed the Tegra chip in phones because of how poorly they built the device and every single flagship they have released since has had a lot of issues, the biggest one being people having to resort to baking their phones like we do with graphics cards because of shoddy solder. It's unacceptable. ¬_¬
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
"Past performance is not an indicator of future outcomes."
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
When a company lets a serious issue like that go on for so long, it's reasonable to be suspicious of their products going forward. It's the kiss of death in the cell phone world since by the time the product has been on the market long enough to see if the issue is still an issue, something better has already dropped.

Of course with carrier insurance, it's not as big of an issue but personally I'd rather keep paying 12 bucks a month for my wireless service rather than pay T-Mobile 65 a month for the same plan plus insurance, not to mention taxes which would put me around 72.

I vote with my wallet. HTC is by no means perfect (they're especially notorious for LCD issues like using multiple manufacturers and not calibrating the displays) but they've never let one singular major issue persist between models*.

*this doesn't include their Windows Mobile devices which were constantly plagued with issues, especially their refusal to pay Qualcomm's royalties in order to use the Adreno graphics core causing horrendous graphics performance in both 2D and 3D.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
What does carrier insurance have to do with (non-Verizon) Pixels?..

"Your Pixel comes with a 1-year manufacturer’s warranty. Add device protection when you purchase your phone, and you get an additional year of coverage for mechanical breakdown and 2 years of protection from accidental damage. Device protection is $99 for Pixel. Mechanical breakdown coverage for the 2nd year, and up to 2 claims of accidental damage coverage for 2 years. Each claim is subject to a deductible - $79 for Pixel and $99 for Pixel XL."
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
LG devices in general, not just the Pixel. Google has a nasty track record with regard to repairs from what I've seen, I'd never buy a phone directly from Google no matter the ODM.

I could have sworn Evan Blass had said the Pixel 2 was not going to just be on Verizon but I could be wrong, I don't really pay that much attention to devices I have no interest in. Could be mixing it up with the Z2 Force which I know is going to T-Mobile.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
The only way the Pixel 2 can top this phone is if they copy it with better specs. Judging from past Google phones, mostly cheap plastic, that is not going to happen. It will have better specs but HTC will knock it back down with the HTC 12. So holding out on the U11 now to wait for the Pixel 2 is a dream. I'd much rather have the best now and wait and see if Google can top it. Judging by last year's ugly Pixel I would not hold my breath. Except for the M9 I can always count on HTC. As long as HTC makes it I will never buy another Google phone unless HTC takes away unlocking bootloader and s-off.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
First you state that quality of Pixel 2 XL will be suspect because LG is the ODM. Then it turns out you're talking about all LG devices rather than Pixel 2 XL in particular, so Google's warranty / device protection do not apply. In any case, you wouldn't buy a Pixel 2 from Google, and you're not paying attention to Pixel 2 anyway because you have no interest in it. Hard to follow your line of argument if you keep changing it.

Also, Google Store warranty replacements aren't that difficult to initiate and can often be done even for out-of-warranty devices having well-known issues.

Pixel / Pixel 2 definitely wasn't / won't be made of cheap plastic and was / will be manufactured by HTC (at least the smaller Pixel 2 will be).
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
You just love to argue. I said the past was mostly cheap plastic, their design has always been nothing to brag about. The only thing they ever have going for them is their fast updates and even that is not anything to brag about cause that is short lived. There is no logical reason to wait for the Pixel 2 unless you just flat out don't have the money for the HTC U11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
The cheapest version of Pixel (32GB, 5") had the same list price last year as U11 64GB. I don't expect Pixel 2 to be any cheaper this year.