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[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I just drove up to old home town of Bright Indiana, up a mountain (large Hill) and around and back down where everyone has bad signal and there is one bad spot in the valley on the way up, Jamison road, v the road I grew up on, everyone drops signal no matter what carrier, it's about a 1/4 mile stretch. And there's another spot on the way back down called Sand Run that does the same thing but on top of the hill in Bright Indiana the signal is always awful. I was streaming Pandora on Bluetooth like I always do and only dropped on that bad spot on Jamison. Picked right back up and I had great signal all the way back home. So as long as I don't have these mysterious network drops people are claiming, this phone is a keeper for me. As soon as I get in my car or work truck my phone is set to trigger Pandora and it plays flawlessly. I already knew that spot in the valley was gonna drop me but that has been the only time I have lost signal since being on stock rooted. I believe HTC when they claim most people will never noticed not having CDMA.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Yeah, I don't travel to remote areas so the lack of CDMA isn't a factor for me but everyone has their needs.

I'm loving mine in the Sapphire and I get use out of the Edge Sense and don't find it troublesome in the least. I've had the 8 on up and this one for my needs is by far the best. I listen to alot of flac files at the gym so having a 64 gig internal is better for me than the 10. My 128 SD card only has 5 gig's left so that extra 32 gig internal over the 10 is good for me. Also, I use some great Sony Bluetooth Extra Bass headphones in, you guessed it, blue, so the USB C is not an issue either.

I can definitely recommend this phone on Verizon if you're in a situation like mine.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Yeah I don't get it, something is fishy for sure cause i am having the best mobile phone experience of my life with this bad boy. I just Talked to HTC again and they assured me once again that they are still in talks with Verizon. I don't believ it til i see it but if these issues are real, something has to be done.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Well I for one am not buying that by using this phone over the 10 all your gaining is a stupid squeeze trick. It's not for everyone but to try to diminish the phone because someone is frustrated that the coverage, which was known about, is sketchy sounds a tad like sour grapes and/or disappointment.

The quality speaks to itself or people would be returning it before even discovering the reception issues, which, once again are well documented here.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I don't believe people are dropping off the network with no return from straight stock. And I know the ruu.exe I posted fixes it if it does happen. I know I got yelled at for blaming Viper ROM but I didn't mean just Viper, I meant flashing a custom ROM. Regardless, no one is answering me on the Viper thread when I ask who is on Verizon. Something breaks when flashing these custom ROM's and probably could be fixed. I don't believe there are many reception issues, I think they are losing complete network from flashing a ROM and that ruu.exe wasn't out yet. Fastboot or sdcard method might not work like an .exe file flashed from a pc
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Well you getting yelled at was the only reason I posted in this thread.

I'm not going to repost my thoughts, just to say non stock mods its hard for me to blame the phone.

I'm not necessarily talking so much about the phone dropping off the network, I'm talking about it not having access to the CDMA network period. It's known this could be a problem if you absolutely need to depend on the CDMA bands.

Blaming the phone for not getting 3G is like blaming a Hyundai for not going 180 MPH. It shouldn't come as a surprise.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I already know from experience if I flash a custom ROM something is going to break and I will have to run the ruu.exe to get my signal back. So I'm gonna take your advice and not even chance it. I'm having the ultimate experience already so why risk it. Until there is a fix. But there won't be a fix if we aren't honest about it.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Well we already know the devs don't believe it's anything they're doing.

So the first part of any fix is acknowledging a problem and I don't see any of the three of the devs,HTC,or Verizon making any admissions of guilt in the near future lol.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I'm gonna flash viper and see what happens.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I can't get over the battery life on this beast. It does not need any custom tweaking, all the voice assistants active and they do not phase it. People complain about wireless charging, this sucker hardly needs to be charged it's a bs argument.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] PhantomZwei:
Just got this phone 4 days ago. Was skeptical being on Verizon but I didn't lose service once on my way to Philadelphia & Delaware this past Friday. Although I noticed in LTE discovery app that I have 2 bars of 4g at my house..but my status bar it shows full?

Either way, seems to be working good so far.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Was looking to upgrade my dads phone, he uses flip phones and saw this, Verizon just launched its first LTE-only flip phone it looks like it does not have CDMA but it supports the other bands I guess. LG Exalt® LTE
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I just finished chatting with HTC again and this was the most I could get out of them.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] user23785:
Thank you. So the *#*#4636#*#* menu actually works, but it looks like an older version without provisioning switches. It would be also interesting to see what network type selection (like on my second screenshot) this phone has, since it doesn't support CDMA.

Edit: I think that menu is located in Settings > Mobile data > Network mode.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Lock-N-Load:
BUT tried it in a 3g or 1x or wifi calling.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
bootloader still unlocked???
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] WorldOfJohnboy:
Yes, and Magisk rooted, too.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] WorldOfJohnboy:
You won't see it get 3G, there is no CDMA Radio in the phone. Per HTC.com Specs:

I just put mine into Airplane Mode, then enabled Wi-Fi, but no dice. There's also no Visual Voicemail (carrier) nor do I see advanced calling features like Video Calling.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Lock-N-Load:
Yes, I know and knew. I was making this point that this phone is a stretch to say it "works" with Verizon when basic expected functionality is missing. People must not travel and be active because in my life, 4G is not going to solely cut it. I have been to 9 states so far this year. I get very rural. 4G is not always available. Not even close no matter how much VZW says they have us covered.

NO unlocked phone is worth giving up basic abilities. Even wifi calling, it is SHOCKING that that is omitted in a phone with no 3G and 1x. Shocking.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] WorldOfJohnboy:
Ultimately it's your opinion, but Wi-Fi calling is listed in specs above. (I personally hate Wi-Fi calling anyway.) As I also said above, the 4G coverage and signal strength on this phone is supercharged, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone since LTE was implemented in my area... to each their own.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] droidrev71:
Are you getting band 4? I'm only able to get band 13. Band 4 is normally what I get in my area. This could be a deal breaker for me.

Anyone getting band 4? The app LTE discovery will let you know what bands your on.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Shadowstare:
i'm so glad I checked this post before buying the U11. No CDMA is a HUGE for me. Looks like I may have to get the S8+. Damn. I wanted that U11.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Is band 4 working on yours?
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
Has anyone else had issues with receiving txt or sms. Mine was working fine until yesterday and it stopped receiving. Only message+ worked. google messages and htc messaging stopped. I deleted and re-added the APN settings and it seems to work again.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Nope no such issues..i saw you posting about this on verizon community too
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
Yeah I was. It seems to as long as I use the vzw message app. I had been perfectly working since I received the phone.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Htc message app is working ok..if anything i will post here..whats your apn settings btw
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
I just posted Name Verizon apn vzwinternet and the rest filled in automatically.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
You wanna try this
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
What's the rest of your settings
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Verizon vzwinternet....rest default
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
Got it. I am using that now.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Ok let us know...yours is locked right? I just talked to a vzw cs rep, they say advanced lte wont work because they have to push a software update for carrier aggregation...anyway i guess we have to wait for verizon ruu and convert
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] michaelbsheldon:
My stock HTC 10 on Verizon comes with LTE Bands 2 3 4 5 7 13 enabled.

My U11 is okay on just Band 13, but others are having connection problems.

If HTC and Verizon got together on this, our U11's could receive a

firmware update that would enable those bands.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Backing up my stock Magisk rooted ROM now to flash the Viper 1.5 full ROM and see what happens.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] tml478:
I've been having the same experiences with losing complete service. It happened first when I installed the edge sense plus app. I was on the Bad Boy Rom. The app requested root and had me reboot and there was no signal after reboot. The next time I was on the magisk version of viper Rom and things were great for about two days then after a reboot it came up with no service. The third time I was on the full version of viper, set it up and did a backup. When the backup finished the phone rebooted with no service. It's been a completely random for me but always after a reboot. I want to love this phone. Like I really really really do. It just doesn't want to love me back.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Just installed Viper full ROM 1.5 with SuperSU I don't need Magisk, I don't use Android Pay or play Pokeman, so far so good! I'm not gonna try a custom kernel, at least not yet. There is no need for a custom kernel. But I do need an all black theme. Hopefully it all works out!

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I've had no issues for over 2 weeks on complete stock. The only time I lost signal is when I flashed the Viper Magisk ROM. After running the ruu.exe I was back to normal with no issues. See my post above, I am giving the full Viper ROM a try using SuperSu instead of Magisk. We will see how it goes.

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So far so good with the Viper 1.5 full ROM. I even used my Viper backup from my HTC 10 to set most of my Venom tweaks. Trying the dark theme now. :fingers-crossed:
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
On the Viper full ROM 1.5 doing good so far
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
In the hills of Kentucky
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jimbob_sf:
I read a bunch of the thread and I've never had a plan besides Verizon's GDD and always had a rooted phone, so I honestly have no clue about this one: I pay an arm and a leg for Verizon's GDD plan and I"m considering stepping down to a normal "unlimited" (anything but) data plan.

Question: If the U11 is rooted with ViperU, can the carriers sense if I'm tethering or does it all look like on-phone data? I did a search and if it's common knowledge, I'm not typing in the proper key words. Thanks!
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] tml478:
Running the full version of Viper are you having an issue with stock messaging? It's odd but my typing on the stock messaging wouldn't register key presses. I could read messages but not reply. When I flash the magisk version Overstock everything was fine.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I use Verizon's Messaging app, I like it much better but I just tried HTC Messaging and you are right, I couldn't even bring up the keyboard. Other than that, The full Viper ROM has been great and still have uninterrupted Verizon network!

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Here is an article about Verizon's first LTE only device it mentions the HTC U11. My U11 has been working so well I decided to order this bad boy for my dad. http://wccftech.com/lg-exalt-lte-verizon/
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Kisakuku:
HTC 10 has noise cancelation for recording, not for playback.

$600 with a well-publicized coupon code.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Verizon network still running solid! I think this is day 20 for me. Had one instance where I lost signal but so far it looks like it may have been from flashing a kernel. I have been running Viper rooted with SuperSU with no issues, gonna try a custom kernel again this weekend. Just a little update for any Verizon users who may be on the fence about ordering. I have no signal or service issues to complain about.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
I started having Wi-Fi drop outs yesterday at home sitting 10 feet LOS from my Xfinity modem on the 5GHz band. So I started doing some digging and found that a whole bunch of Verizon people were having the same issue when upgrading their S7s to Nougat.

Verizon's answer was a factory reset but I found a post saying go into the network settings and clear all data. So I did, rebooted, and have been going strong since.

Maybe coincidence but something Verizon people may want to try since it resets all networks including 4G.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] OMJ:
Has nothing to do with Verizon, this issue is present on various U11 versions... Not sure about other devices... There's a couple threads in the U11 forums about it.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Yeah, not sure where you're thinking I'm saying my WIFI drop outs would be related to Verizon lol.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] OMJ:
umm, cuz your post mentioned Verizon several times, as if it was only affecting Verizon users....
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Umm, I didn't realize mentioning Verizon was stating I was limiting the issue to them. I'm in the computer industry. What would a phone being sold by HTC and Amazon with an issue with Comcast Wi-Fi have to do with Verizon specifically? "As if" means you made a leap and an assumption that was wrong.

I saw many people on the Verizon forum stating the same issue. Since that's my carrier I don't think it would make much sense to me to regularly peruse other carrier websites so I don't.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Where are any Verizon HTC U11 forums? Surely none here I don't think?
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
My original post is about the S7 having similar issues with signal drops after nougat update. I had googled signal drops on nougat and found a lot of issues. I was on the Verizon community. You guys are killing me by not reading the sequence from the beginning. There are no Verizon U11 forums anywhere that I'm aware of since they don't sell the phone. Go back 2 or 3 of my posts and you'll see the context of my statement.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
My bad LMAO "Verizon people were having the same issue when upgrading their S7s to Nougat." I just got home from a rough day buddy take it easy on me :laugh:
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
It's all good. I totally been there many times. No worries.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I just would like to see more Verizon people here. I'm still goin strong. It kinda sucks cause this phone has made me completely uninterested in my HTC 10 Lol. But it's worth more to me than what I would get if I sold it.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] jtommyj:
Yeah me too. I still have my 8,9,and 10. Don't know why, but I do lol.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
I have Verizon and have been working great since the first patch. I have had almost every device HTC has made on Verizon.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
Can you get more then band 13??? Wonder if the unlocked 128 gb can get any more bands? LOL
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] ckupsco:
Just band 13
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Kisakuku:
Definitely not, hardware is the same except DRAM / NAND.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Wingedlion13:
I've had my U11 about 6 weeks and lost connection to 5G WIFI a couple of times so far and restarting my phone fixed the problem.

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[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
Yeah it's BS they won't unleash cdma for this beast but I am gonna do a little experiment. As much as I'm gonna hate to, I'm gonna use my HTC 10 for a few days with the LTE Discovery app and monitor what band it's on as I drive around at work. I notice my mom's HTC One M9 from Verizon is only using band 13. There is a setting on the app that displays your band number on the top left of the status bar. I want to see if it ever changes from band 13.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Kisakuku:
If rooted, use Network Signal Guru, gives a lot more info.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] genemark2000:
I recently got the unlocked solar red and so far have no issues. I was using Verizon M9 and just used the same sim card for the U11. Everything works fine. I am in San Diego but tried it in San Francisco as well. I don't feel any difference in terms of connection and call quality in comparison to my verizon M9. In fact, I think the indoor cellular reception and WIFI feel stronger.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] christiebunny:
Just had my LG V10 die, and I'm torn between the U11 and the Samsung S8+ (currently locked and unrootable on verizon, and (apparently) no LTE on the international version).... they seem to have pretty much the same specs, anyone have any info on the u11 vs the S8+. pros/cons?

EDIT: I've learnt there's a US 128GB version available on HTC's site, so going for that! .......once I get $800 :fingers-crossed:
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] TNPaparazzi:
I had the U11 for about a month now and everywhere I have had little to no 3g service with previous Verizon phones I've had between 1 and 3 bars of 4G service with the U11. I would always drop a call or data service in 2 specific areas I always travel in and I have yet to have that happen with the U11. It's definitely not just in my head either lol... I was nervous when I first purchased the U11 specifically because of that and now after what I know I should have bought it sooner.. I've never been happier with this phone

I feel like the only time I've had problems with Verizon is when I switch a phone either through 611 or on the website. This time I didn't bother calling - just swapped the sim from my 10 to the 11 and it immediately recognized it and connected to the network without issue. Tried it for the day before I attempted to root and unlock the bootloader but before and after I still have had zero issues. Their support reps are not very smart and messed my entire account up when I swapped my damaged 10 (That caught fire but that's a story I'll save for another day lmao) to my insurance replaced 10 over the phone.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] sdamark:
I got mine on release day. Popped my HTC10 sim card in and all was perfect. Lasted 2 days and was kicked off the network.

RUU'd through 3 firmware updates ( the 3 1.xx updates ), without success. Had to send it back for warranty before the 2.xx firmware released. Seems to me they fixed something on that 2.xx release, because I have yet to see anyone lose the network since.

On vacation next week and I'm sure I'll order a replacement when I get home.

I'll give 'er another try. Really did love this device. Gotta get another one.

They seem to be getting closer on S-Off too, and that means allot. I think if I had S-Off I may have been able to wipe modems, that would fix network connections on the HTC10.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] christiebunny:
It sounds to me like they'd be able to activate the other LTE bands if they can get S-Off-- I get the impression it needs more than just root access :/ It'd be nice to have 'all the bands' like sprint/att/etct... verizon's dumb, but unfortunately my only choice in the area for the moment :(
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
This would be great, sadly there is no sign of any smart dev's owning or even interested in this device. Would be nice if some of our dev's here were on Verizon.

***edited my post to make it more clear for some people. I meant devs who are on Verizon. I obviously recognize we have brilliant developers, I do not know of any who are on Verizon.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
Pretty rude and ignorant to say there are no smart devs when you have two of the best in [MENTION=398245]LeeDroid[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4905624]j to the 4n[/MENTION] with team Venom making some of the most innovative roms surpassing what even HTC does. This problem wasn't created by the devs nor is it there's to fix. This issue is HTC's to sort out with Verizon and no one else. The Devs do much more than required and certainly don't just post about what they'd like to see in a rom, they make it happen which is more than I can say for some people around here. And being a former dev myself, I know a little something about what can and can't be done.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I clearly said verizon users. What a wasted post. Or I meant devs from verizon. There is no sign of any that are from verizon cause if there was they would have ran into this issue. And neither HTC or Verizon are going to do anything about it, neither one will admit there is a problem.

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***edited my post to make it more clear for some people. I meant devs who are on Verizon. I obviously recognize we have brilliant developers, I do not know of any who are on Verizon.
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] PhantomZwei:
I confirmed last night that when I do a backup in TWRP, I lose all service. I've tried it 3 times on LeeDroid, Viper, & bad boyz. Each one after doing a backup..it just kills the service. I'm not really sure what would cause it to do that.

It does come back after a full wipe though :confused:
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
My third time was also when edge sense plus tried to install the root module and asked to reboot, I had no service after reboot. I tried it again, reflashed Viper after a full wipe and made sure I had everything flashed and installed and setup before I put my sim card in and signal has been fine.

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Mine only came back after a full wipe once but my three times it has happened has always been after flashing or altering something to system. Like a kernel or the root module for edge sense plus, after it asked to reboot signal was gone. I had to run RUU. exe to get it back. This may sound stupid but I was thinking to have the sim card removed whenever flashing or updating anything. I made sure everything was flashed and setup fully my last time with Viper before I installed my sim card back. Still not sure if it ever happens on complete stock. I accidentally deleted my original post so I had to redo it.