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[Android General] n9yty:
Please forgive me, but there is so much information in this thread I'm a bit confused...

I have a 2018 Civic Hatchback EX, and I have the browser available, and received a link/code from codeage. I can't thank him enough!

But I have some questions and don't want to bug him directly, hopefully I can get some help from the great community here:

A few posts up someone mentioned: 'an app called “Honda installer” that you should install in case you need to reset to factory settings. This allows you to reinstall everything with getting another code. '

I got the link/code, but no app. Is that installed as part of the process, and if so, do you have to back it up and how do you do that?

I'd like to repeat the request I saw a few times for a summary, walkthrough, video, whatever, to kind of wrap up what all this does for us. All I really want are two things:

1) Sideload a few apps, like Navigation and maybe a video player.

(if using navigation this way, does it push turns/etc to the dashboard display?)

2) Enable video-in-motion or override the other restrictions while in motion.

3) Any way to mirror the phone screen to the headunit after this?

Also, does anyone know if this prevents future software updates from Honda? I just was updated to the latest one, maybe they'll never do another one, but better to ask first. LoL

I haven't read of anyone reporting bricking using this method, so it should be considered "safe", right? :)
[Android General] dreadlk:
I would also be interested in learning more about what Honda Installer does and how it is used and how do you do a recovery?
[Android General] Ludeape:
there is surprisingly few youtube videos on this.. i would like to see a video walkthrough of the

wifi

Honda Hack install and config.
[Android General] dr_drache:
it's initialized with the Can bus and vehicle control via the head unit (it's pre-DSP).

the biggest problem isn't so much the curve (as with a V4A profile, we can do a lot and mitigate the curve; anyone have a profile yet?), is that the curve changes based on volume level. that sort of thing makes it hard to clean up the sound at all - this is pre-DSP; so even if you remove the factory DSP, and do full aftermarket, you need to flatten the curve before you can do anything else.
[Android General] lexman098:
You linked to the play store, but which apk did you use specifically? Can you post it?

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Hey I found only a couple posts with people having the "Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]" problem and no one has solved it supposedly. I rooted with the simple .exe method connected with a USB-A -> USB-A method. I have the HondaHack app installed and everything that comes with it works fine. I installed some apps from the built in "app store" even. However, when I try to install an apk from a thumb drive I always get the internal error message. I think it's supposed to do all the whitelist editing for me. Is there a bug in the HondaHack app maybe?
[Android General] transmico:
Hi Lexman,

Some apps don’t work with the Android version of the car. That’s why I think you’re getting an error. I had the same issue.

T.
[Android General] Ludeape:
Havent tried it, but here is a link to vlc 2.5.1

Let me know if it works

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/videolabs/vlc/vlc-2-5-1-release/
[Android General] n9yty:
So... Installed, very straightforward and no problems, at least not yet... LoL

I did the parking brake bypass, although in testing the app I really wanted this for, Sygic, I had the "enter destination" box open when going down the road just pulling out of the driveway and it blocked me. I had to slow down/stop for it to go away, but at least when I dismissed the box Sygic didn't go away while driving, at least around the block. I didn't get up to much in the way of speed. Is this normal? That will kind of suck if you cant enter waypoints/destinations/etc while driving, even passengers.

In reality, I'll almost certainly use Android Auto for most things, this was really just a "nice to have fallback". It doesn't put the directions on the Driver Information area of the dash, and it steals audio focus forcing you to put it back, but it is better than nothing in a pinch. I'm not surprised about the lack of directions, how would the headunit know what an unsupported app is doing. :)

Beyond that, I can't believe how painless it was, thanks to [MENTION=495426]codeage[/MENTION] and any others for putting this all together for those of us who wouldn't have the time or resources to make it happen otherwise.

The other apps I want to try is to access media on my WD Passport Wireless Pro unit over DLNA. I use either VLC or DMS Explorer (with Video Player or MX Player) on the Android tablet, not sure if these apps will work properly on the headunit. ...or if the video-in-motion will work, although mostly I would use it while parked anyway, it is just that the built-in video player through Gallery can't connect to a drive over WiFi. :)
[Android General] n9yty:
So, what exactly do you have to deactivate? And then do VLC and other apps work? :) Thanks!
[Android General] Ludeape:
I have read vlc 2.5.1 works for video and so does mx player
[Android General] dreadlk:
I am also using Sygic for maps but like some of you I have no sound for the directions. It would be perfect if the sound worked.
[Android General] transmico:
Check your audio source if your are not hearing navigation problem. I had the same issue at first and switched until I was able to hear it. It should be under iPod or Audio Apps.
[Android General] dreadlk:
Hmm tried Audio apps but never tried Ipod. I will give it a try.

Thanks
[Android General] Ludeape:
yea, audio source inputs is a little quirky now, but not a huge deal really.

Like if I have an AM station on and I start playing a video , the AM station sound is still playing while the video is on the screen. You have to go into the source and change it to get the sound from the video to play.
[Android General] Gle01:
Hi! May I know how can I fully uninstall root after do this? Im really need your help. Thanks:)
[Android General] phasearray:
HondaHack updated, ran into a little problem

First of all I'd like to say thanks to [MENTION=495426]codeage[/MENTION] and everybody else who may have helped with the development of this tool.

I rooted the head unit on my 2017 Civic a few weeks ago using the Hondahack.exe root tool and everything seemed to be okay at first. I've only installed Waze so far. Then yesterday I had a bit of a scare - I opened up the HondaHack app to check some settings and it notified me that there was an update available. I applied the update (it installed version 3.6.1), and at the end it said I needed to reboot the system.

So I performed the reboot, and it never came back properly. I ended up with the bootloader screen which reads "Software Update" at the top (I'd post a photo but I'm not allowed yet due to low post count)

I was a bit panicked so I just tried rebooting it a few more times via selection of the first option (which reads "reboot system now") and it kept coming back to that bootloader screen. I figured that couldn't hurt anything and I didn't want to take any drastic measures until I absolutely had to. So as my next step, I found the fuse for the audio system (on my car it's the 15A fuse #19 in the underhood fuse box) and pulled it for about an hour. Then I replaced the fuse and started the car to my relief, my system came back to life and properly booted after a few minutes.

But this little incident has me spooked, and I have a few questions.

1. Does the Honda Installer app allow me to unroot the Display Audio unit and return it fully to original factory status?

2. From reading this thread, it's my understanding that the new wireless method doesn't actually root the head unit? Is this correct?

3. If the wireless method doesn't root the head unit, I'm assuming that eliminates the risk of corrupting the system?

Thanks in advance for any guidance that can be offered.
[Android General] codeage:
When long press the AUDIO button to do a cold reboot, there's a small chance to enter the Software Update UI (the recovery). Just wait about 20 to 30 minutes and the HU will reboot properly. According to my test, this also happens on the stock system so it is a normal behavior.

Yes, the wireless root method does root the HU. It will not corrupt the system. But do not use other apps which require root privilege unless you know what they do exactly. Do not modify the system files, for example, try installing Google play services or Google account manager.

To unroot, just use any root file explorer to remove /system/xbin/su and do a factory data reset. There may be a few files left in the system but they are harmless.
[Android General] phasearray:
Thank you for your response. The information is helpful.

Is there an easy way to determine which apps are "safe"? I'm planning on installing an OBD2 app (OBDLink) which will connect to my wifi OBD2 tool.
[Android General] Gle01:
Hi! May I know how can I fully uninstall root after do this? Im really need your help. Thanks
[Android General] Ludeape:
MX player works well but cant play DTS audio.. i have a custom mx codec zip for it but i have no settings menu in my mx player to tell it to use the custom codec. :(

any ideas??

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i would like to know this also..

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Mx player plays video but not dts audio.. And vlc plays dts audio but not the video.. :(
[Android General] Ludeape:
MX player 1.7.30 also installs, but when you run it it prompts for a tegra3 ffmgeg codec download..

Do you think installing the codec is risky?
[Android General] dreadlk:
Just noticed that Codeage released a new version of Honda Hack. Version 3.1 (I think).

I updated and everything went fine. Would love to know if Codeage can post some release notes for it.
[Android General] n9yty:
You don't have to post this after every other contribution to this thread. Read the thread through and see if you can find your answer, I think the answer is yes, but do some research.
[Android General] n9yty:
Has anyone noticed any issues with USB after doing this? I have rebooted the headunit twice, but it is very slow and hard to get it to connect to Android Auto on my phone, and then later my iPod went into a "Not connected" or "Not responding" status. I have to reboot it to test again. Just curious what maybe going on, it seems strange to have happened right after doing this. :(
[Android General] zmanfarlee:
Any chance you are using a different USB cable? My car was picky about that
[Android General] n9yty:
Thanks, but no, same cable, both for the iPod and the phone. I did reboot the phone just in case, didn't help. Very strange. I'll keep an eye on it.
[Android General] dreadlk:
I thought I replied to this 2 days ago but now I don't see the post.

A big thanks to Trasmico :) Sygic maps works perfectly with the iPod audio source setting. I wish I could have music and turn by turn directions at the same time but hey you cannot have everything in life.

Thanks again
[Android General] stw500:
On first page there is still the january version. Do you have a link for the updated version?
[Android General] Ludeape:
I get voice from sygic maps without doing anything, no issues there.. but the problem i have with sygic is the maps are not really up to date and i can't find many new addresses here in the US. And also the address format is different, like having street name first, then address number after that.. its kind of a pain

Not sure if the product is lagging behind as far as US maps or not..
[Android General] sheryip:
use the app in settings to update
[Android General] Ludeape:
is there any way to bring up a task list to kill apps you have opened? or do i need to install a task manager for this.
[Android General] Gle01:
Can you please share if you know. Thanks
[Android General] Dan0974:
Not positive but I don’t think you can use a WiFi obd2. I think it has to be Bluetooth.
[Android General] blowtorch:
hold the home button to bring up the native task manager
[Android General] phasearray:
Actually it's the opposite. You can't pair Bluetooth OBD2 to the DisplayAudio, but it happily pairs with the Wifi OBD2. And I successfully installed the OBDLink app - it works great on the DA (so far). I just don't know for certain whether it is "safe" or not. But so far, it seems okay.
[Android General] n9yty:
An update on my USB question, the last few times in/out of the car it has been very quick to connect up and for Androdi Auto to show up, and the iPod Classic is playing fine, so who knows what was/is going on. But it doesn't seem to be a persistent problem created by this software, all is working great at the moment.
[Android General] Ludeape:
Thanks!
[Android General] dreadlk:
Anyone else try the Garmin App? He has two files listed, I tried the first one.

I installed it and it runs but every time it comes up it says I am connected to WiFi and I need to disconnect and connect to some server (cant remember the name now) . That sounds totally counter intuitive since it would need WiFi to connect to the server!

Anyway I tried it without the WiFi connected and it gives me no options except to exit.

Does anyone have a working Garmin APK file?
[Android General] yrh0413:
i downloaded the same Garmin apk, can't get it to work either. It tells me to connect to a Telstra network which is not available in my country
[Android General] zahurkho:
Hi friend,

I have install OfflineMap and Sygic on my honda civic 2016, i have the possibility to install nay map of the World.

Im from Montreal (Canada) and i can confirmed you that with Sygic, i'm actually 100% satisfaction with it on my car.

I have post a picture while i was driving with. check it out.

Regards

Zahur

Pictures on this link: https://postimg.cc/gallery/2fh12ywmc/
[Android General] Ludeape:
Sygic is not great in the US. I cant even search for an address. It only shows navigation to street names and not a specific address.

That app is miles behind google maps and waze.

Are you guys actually paying for Sygic?
[Android General] n9yty:
I paid for it, as it was on sale. I don't know, maybe it is always on sale. LoL I think it was like $25 for lifetime world maps + traffic which seemed fair enough. That plus the $18 donation to codeage for his work on the Honda Hack was money well spent just to know it will be there if/when I need it.

I can search for addresses just fine, though, so not sure about that part.... It is strange, if I put in:

NUM STREET NAME

It re-writes it as:

STREET NAME NUM

But it works just fine, and I can put it in normally and just have it re-written.

Is it as good as Google Maps or Waze or others? Maybe not. I usually use Android Auto, it is overall a better experience, as it puts the directions by the speedometer display, but in a pinch, if I can't connect the phone or don't want to, it's nice to have.
[Android General] yrh0413:
I have installed both Waze and Sygic on my Civic 17, not a fan of Sygic has it is slow and graphics are pretty terrible. Waze (paired with my phone's personal hotspot) offers much better user experience.

I do hope Garmin will work as its interface is much better than Sygic.
[Android General] kjake48:
Fun thing - you can enable adb over tcpip! Just connect the headunit to your home wifi, then turn on the radio in accessory mode and you can access adb from the comfort of your couch. :)

As root, run:

setprop persist.adb.tcp.port 5555

Then reboot the unit. On mine, I hold down the volume knob until the unit asks if I want to reboot.
[Android General] wha1eve1:
The fm radio is turned off everytime waze gives a direction

The FM radio is turned off every time waze gives a direction.

So I don't think <audioStreamType>STREAM_ADA_GUIDE</audioStreamType> is really doing anything.

Can someone with touring check what's the parameter for navigation program?

Thanks a LOT!
[Android General] levi-ch:
anyone has carplay problems?after i install 3rd part app,I just can't enter carplay windows.i had change model from devices to host.
[Android General] codeage:
Yes, carplay and android auto only work under Host mode. BTW, changing the usb mode will not affect installed apps.
[Android General] levi-ch:
under host carplay seems not work still
[Android General] Dragon86:
Hello guys I'm a beginner in this stuff however If anybody can explain the method in details i would appreciate that specialy from 5 to 10

Thanks
[Android General] minicover:
I can manually install app but at this time running app while speed over 5mph are restricted. all of install apps.

I edit all regulation in data/data/whitelist-1.0.xml to - null - like

<controlData>

<withAudio>without</withAudio>

<audioStreamType>null</audioStreamType>

<regulation>null</regulation>

<revert>yes</revert>

</controlData>

but it cannot change anything.

anyone meet this problem? what is solution?
[Android General] kjake48:
My revert is set to no - try that?

<application>
<property>
<name>com.waze</name>
<package>com.waze</package>
<versionCode>1-999999999</versionCode>
<keyStoreLists>
<keyStore>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</keyStore>
</keyStoreLists>
</property>
<controlData>
<withAudio>without</withAudio>
<audioStreamType>null</audioStreamType>
<regulation>null</regulation>
<revert>no</revert>
</controlData>
</application>
[Android General] minicover:
Yes try all revert Yes and No

Nothing change

I wonder I can install app but why regulation not work for my hu
[Android General] codeage:
You can follow this link to know how to bypass the restriction: http://www.civicx.com/threads/2016-civic-ex-na-finally-video-while-driving.9983/
[Android General] minicover:
Try this method and it work for me.

and when I see whitelist-1.0.xml in data/data

it revert back to original???

However, any install app running

I install navigate app like Waze and google map.

When it has navi sound it stop other music app

which I guess it will happen because no more use restrict script checking.

My solution is

In waze, I change sound setting in waze app to use speaker phone and it work with audio app like car radio, carplay and usb music file. Yeah!

Unfortunately, google map doesn't have kind of that setting and you have to disable navi sound if you want to listen other music

Next step is find the right install version of MX Player pro
[Android General] codeage:
Refer to this post: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72817420&postcount=50
[Android General] minicover:
Thank [MENTION=495426]codeage[/MENTION]

Have to try but as I ask you before...

Whitelist code editing didn't effect anything for me.
[Android General] codeage:
Try this:

for navigation app, use:

<withAudio>without</withAudio>

and for music app, use:

<withAudio>with</withAudio>
[Android General] rosenkrantz:
Rookie question :)

My question is .....

3. Change the USB mode of the head unit from 'Host' to 'Device'. .. How do i do that ???
[Android General] codeage:
Just follow the link.
[Android General] rosenkrantz:
hmmm...

That link says the same .... change the mode from host to device ... but never say how and where to change that ....
[Android General] sheryip:
hold dimmer+power+menu

pick the bottom menu

hold menu til another screen pops up

hold home til it beeps couple of times
[Android General] codeage:
You should follow steps 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in that post.
[Android General] rosenkrantz:
Rookie succes

Hi .. and thank you for guiding me .. it was obvious if one read carefully :)

I got Waze installed "yuppie ai aaa" ... but i wonder if anyone have succeeded with TomTom.apk . That would be soo cool.
[Android General] dreadlk:
Yep thats the same message I am getting. I wonder if that is some kind of exclusive wireless broadband system. I see they are located in Australia. I wish some one had the APK that comes with the Touring models, that would solve everything.
[Android General] riccardone1:
can you connect smartwatch hotspot and wifi obd2 at the same time?
[Android General] Ludeape:
thanks for the info.. i may give it another try and yea i think it is always on sale, lol. it seems to be now also.
[Android General] simon_lefisch:
Most likely wouldn’t matter. I believe it’s a licensing issue with Garmin, as Honda licenses their HU’s that have Garmin included. I could be wrong tho.
[Android General] sheryip:
actually I had the apk installed on my headunit a while back ago but I was missing the SD card data. So everything menu/picture came up with a big X missing
[Android General] simon_lefisch:
Strange, as I had it as well but was unable to get it to work. I then later found a thread suggesting that it could be a license issue. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Android General] phasearray:
Yes, you can configure the OBD2 to connect to the Wifi in infrastructure mode (via hotspot or router) according to the documentation, but I have not tested that mode.
[Android General] minicover:
Does anyone try this on accord?

I cannot find the way for access to change USB role.
[Android General] seandop:
2017 or 2018?
[Android General] minicover:
what different between 2017-2018
[Android General] riccardone1:
I intend to connect the obd2 to the Connect and at the same time connect the Connect to the smartphone hotspot
[Android General] jpsycho012:
Is there a where of allowing typing input while driving?
[Android General] dreadlk:
Difference in the OS configuration by Honda. They hid most of the Apps including the browser and they changed the password to get into the system via USB. Luckily we have found a method to re-able the browser and therefore install Honda Hack.
[Android General] yairxx:
THANK YOU

thank you! working great on honda civic 2018.

how can i get a PRO key?

when i try to pay paypal say:

This recipient accepts PayPal payments only through their website. To complete this payment, please go to their website and follow their instructions, or email the recipient for instructions.
[Android General] seandop:
[MENTION=5633513]minicover[/MENTION] was asking about the Accord. As far as I'm aware, I haven't seen anyone install Honda Hack on the 2018 Accord...
[Android General] wilsotc:
Doesn't work on my 2018 cr-v
[Android General] transmico:
Use the wireless root method by enabling the browser. I have a 2018 CRV in Canada and used Honda Hack and now have Waze, Netflix and other apps working really well.

Search this thread and contact Codeage to get the link to download HH.

T.