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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
There's nothing you can do for TF3D that I know of. Changes would need to come from smartWatchM I think.

@moneytoo: I see you've been busy working on WMP control functions and the standalone WMP control app. Any chance we can get something to allow controlling other media players?

How about something along the lines of smartWatchM checking for specially named shortcuts in the apps folder (e.g. media_play.lnk, media_vol_up.lnk, media_next.lnk etc.) and running those instead if they exist. That would take the burden off of you and let us work on getting things going for our players of choice. I've already got a small army of MortScript scripts fit for this purpose;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paultnl:
Hi,

Still using your great program so just topped up the donation. Please keep up the good work.

Is it possible to cancel an appointment alarm from the watch?

Paul
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Control TF3D isn't possible at this time because TF3D is a today with several tabs and I'm not sure how to handle all that. But the WMP control works great in the beta, even when WMP plays in background and keypad is locked so if you really want to use this feature I recommend using WMP.

Yes, I was thinking about similar shortcuts too. There is already a lot of advanced features such as running own apps/scipts from watch, external notifications or even possibility to edit regular expression for full length messages display... I'm not sure how many people will write their own media player conrol but definitely that's something to think about.

At this time I'm considering support for one or two media players other than WMP.

Thank you, Paul.

The appointment notification is canceled when you enter the appointment menu item on the watch menu (2nd item by default).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
Good stuff :) I'd be happy to do a few media player control scripts that folk could use if you do go the shortcuts / scripts way... I may even manage to make 'em in to cab files for ease of installation. I've got Kinoma Play and Pocket Player ones done already (using MortScript and PostMessage calls) which should (although I've not actually tested it yet!) work on locked devices too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Northernmost:

I have updated the beta and added support for the media control shortcuts. So download it from beta.smartmadsoft.com if you want to try it. (I havent tested it yet.)

To make it work, you have to copy all shortcuts to "...\smartmadsoft\smartWatchM\media" folder. You can use volup.lnk, voldown.lnk, pause.lnk (for play/pause), next.lnk. (You can prepare even prev.lnk but this is not supported yet.) The shortcuts should be automatically enabled when you use the media control feature.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
Top notch moneytoo! Working well so far. I'll test it some more and see about getting some scripts put together for controlling other players.

I think you've provided a cure for the messed up state of AVCRP on Windows Mobile :) Donation sent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dinomight:
Android

Does anyone know if this has been ported to the android platform. Or if not can i get the source so that i can port it myself? Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hacqua:
Auto-lock and LM 958

Hello!

I'm about to buy a LM 958 (seems the best cost/benefit, IMHO), but want to know first if two (brilliant) features work with it:

1) Auto-lock device when out of range

2) 3rd party notifications (those from text files)

Thanks!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adempozhari:
hello

which is the most good looking one????

MBW-100 ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dinomight:
Crashing

So i've been having trouble with the newer versions.

No matter what i try after installing the latest version, the application crashes before it ever opens up. I have tried installing .net CF 3.5 but no help. I have attempted this serveral times with various builds but i keep having to revert to a really old version that i still have. (0.2.1.5) I have a samsung i760 with wm 6.0

i could really use some help getting this to work.

-D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tdx:
Since the current builds seem to be dealing with music player controls I thught I'd throw in my 2 cents based on a lot of trial and error with different music players.

So after trying almost all the available players the one that seems to work the best so far is pocket player. Of course WMP is even better but I hate it with a passion so I'm not too keen on using it.

Back to Pocket player, everything works great, with two exceptions:

- it has to be in the foreground to register commands from the watch

- the previous key is not enabled

- it cannot be launched by pressing the play button of the watch

Now I know these problems have already been discussed on this thread, but i thought I'd summarize what doesnt work. As far as what does work, lots actually: music controls, volume control, even the song titles.

So, here's to hoping the above problems get sorted out in future revision.

Peace.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Thank you. If you make any installer for other media player contol, just post the link and I will add it to the first post.

This is not possible with the current release of Android SDK since there are no Bluetooth APIs. I dont want to share source but (a lot of platform specific things, a lot of mess..) I could help you with the connection/commands specs.

1) Yes, this should work.

2) This doesnt work yet but I will add this soon to the beta. Only one text line will be available (12 chars or so). Some scrolling feature maybe in the future.

Yes, MBW-100 look good but It's too heavy, has too little functions and poor bt reception. I would recommend the new MBW-150 (white one) http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbw-150classicedition

Try deleting registry key hklm/software/smartmadsoft/smartwatchm and installing latest beta from beta.smartmadsoft.com

What error message do you get? What details?

Since Pocket Player is favorite player for many users, I'll make a note to add built-in support for this player. ;)

- it has to be in the foreground to register commands from the watch

This is no longer needed with WMP and will not be needed for other players I add.

- the previous key is not enabled

Not available yet. It's not clear for me how this key works so maybe I'll try it in the future.

- it cannot be launched by pressing the play button of the watch

This only worked with WMP but I wont add this in future versions because I wll check all supported players and control them if possible.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Punga:
Hi moneytoo,

Just curious - is this bug already fixed with the current beta? Or can I leave out the beta if I'm not interested into a modified WMP control?

Does "enter" mean to hold-press the left middle key on the 2nd menu item or just choose the 2nd menu item and then press the middle key once to select?

Thanks for keeping your great application up-to-date so frequently, this is very rare for a freeware project!

Cheers

Punga
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Yes, this is already fixed. It's definetely in the beta but I'm not sure if it's in the latest release.

Do you use some media player other than WMP or Pocket Player?

The 2nd one... just press the middle key once.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Punga:
Hi moneytoo,

Great news, I will install the beta immediately :)

I'm quite OK with WMP, but for special formats I use Coreplayer - but not that often...

Good to know - will try if the next appointment pops up :)

Cheers

Punga
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
I have added support for Pocket Player and CorePlayer to the beta. So now there are threee media players. With Pocket Player I have used their SDK so maybe I will use this to read song title later. The control is automatical - it will detect running media player and control it.

If you want to see support for some other music player, just let me know. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
You don't hang about moneytoo ;) If you wanted to add in support for Kinoma Play (http://kinoma.com/play/) here's the details for it:

Process name: kinoma.exe

Start program command line: \Program files\Kinoma\kp5.exe *

Window title: Kinoma Play

Volume up key: Up

Volume down key: Down

Play / pause key: Enter

Next key: Right

Previous key: Left

*I don't know if you do anything about actually launching media players... but if you do then the proper installation path can be found in "HKLM\Software\Kinoma\Player 5\" using "InstallDir" REG_SZ value. On my device the value is "\Program Files\Kinoma" so there's no terminating "\". The kp5.exe is the launcher the app uses to start the main kinoma.exe process. If Kinoma is already running and you execute the kp5.exe again it brings the main app to the front.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthewf01:
New to Windows Mobile, coming from a Sony Ericsson feature phone, and I have a question about this application:

I have an HBH-DS980 I used to use with a sony ericsson K850. I LOVED the time display, as well as audio track display, caller ID etc.

Since moving to an XPERIA X1, all of those features are lost. AVRCP works most of the time, except in Sony Ericsson's own media panel, but track title is gone, and so is the time display.

Is there any way to get these functions going using smartwatchm?

Thanks, hope you guys can help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Northernmost:

Is this the latest version of Kinoma? The shareware one? I will add Kinoma FreePlay which has the same control. I just want to know the windows class of the full version of Kinoma. You can use some advanced task manager to view the properties of the window (dotfred's task manager for example). It's "FskWnd1" for Kinoma FreePlay so it may be the same...

matthewf01:

I dont know if this headset uses some extension of AVRCP, headset profile or serial port profile for the track title... I'm deciding whatever I should buy this headset or not. Tomorrow I'll see. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
I'm running the paid version. I can confirm that dotfred reports the exact same "FskWnd1" class name against the "Kinoma Play" titled window.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
It's in the beta, both Kinoma Play/FreePlay.

I have got the HBH-DS980 today. Pretty cool headset. I can connect to the headset, set the time and send some text while the music and player control still works. It will take some time but there's pretty high probability this headset will be added as fourth supported device. :) The only bad thing is it cannot vibrate... Wait... Maybe I can play beeps... :) I need few days or weeks to test it all.

It's in the beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
Thank you very much moneytoo! All Kinoma controls look to be working perfectly except for play / pause which does nothing for me.

It looks like you're sending an enter key WM_KEYDOWN followed by a WM_KEYUP message. This works for most keys but the Enter key looks to work slightly differently. I think there needs to be a WM_CHAR message sent in between the 2 of them... that's what works in the Mortscript I've been using to send an Enter key press:

WM_KEYDOWN = 256
WM_KEYUP = 257
WM_CHAR = 258

KEY_RIGHT = 39
KEY_LEFT = 37
KEY_ENTER = 13
KEY_UP = 38
KEY_DOWN = 40
KEY_BACK = 8

theKey = KEY_ENTER

PostMessage(title_player ,	WM_KEYDOWN	,theKey,	0)
PostMessage(title_player ,	WM_CHAR	,theKey,	0)
PostMessage(title_player ,	WM_KEYUP	,theKey,	0)

It's only something I knocked together so it may not be the "proper" way of doing it... but it works for me ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Northernmost:

You are right, thanks. :) Now it's fixed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dbrotzen:
"Is there any kind of key mapping I can perform, either in TF3D (via registry) or in SmartwatchM to solve this? If i could make this work then everything would be perfect for me.

Control TF3D isn't possible at this time because TF3D is a today with several tabs and I'm not sure how to handle all that. But the WMP control works great in the beta, even when WMP plays in background and keypad is locked so if you really want to use this feature I recommend using WMP."

I don't currenly own a TF3D device. If I did, are you saying I could run WMP instead of the TF3D mediaplayer, but still keep the TF3D, or do I have to disable TF3D and run another today screen because of the multiple tabs?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Northernmost:
Brilliant. Works perfectly :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Here's another update (1.2.0.2 (20081208)). Better Media Players control and other fixes (so it's highly recommended to update).

- added Pocket Player, CorePlayer and Kinoma (both Play/FreePlay versions) support (better WMP control)

No need to set up, just leave your favorite player running while activating the media control on the watch. Currently only with WMP you see the track artist/title (while it may be possible to add this feature for Pocket Player).

- added basic FlexMail notification support

Experimental... :p

- added 3rd party notifications for LM958

- improved appointment notifications

This is important fix - v1.2.0.2 no longer periodically checks for appointments but it just waits for the reminder window... This should reduce battery drain.

- bug fixes

Some improvements in pairing, stability on HTC S740...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Macgeek:
Our SE MBW 150 compatibility with iPhone 3 G?

Does anyone know if this has been ported to the Mac OS X Mobile platform. and also where can I get apps? Thanks

And Moneytoo your work is so Wonderfull !!!, Congratulations
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
moneytoo,

thanks for the update, it sure sounds great!

But I am exeriencing problems with it: Version 1.2.0.2 cannot find my watch (MBW-150). :confused: I've tried both Direct and COM connections, and neither works. [edit:] Tried both CAB and EXE installers too.[/edit]

Just downgraded back to v1.2.0.0, and everything's fine as usual there.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
http://www.smartmadsoft.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=26

Nightcookie:

What device are you using? You mean you start the connection from your device, press a button on the watch but nothing happen?

There were no big changes so it should work the same. Maybe try turning it all off and on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

thanks for the quick reply.

When I say the device can't find my watch, I mean at a very early stage during setup. I go to Setup - Device Setup - Discover and Pair, and get the message: Cannot find any unpaired watch. Same if I use a COM connection and define and register a COM port before. And yes, I did reset the watch before I started that. :)

Like I said: To be sure, I uninstalled v.1.2.0.2 and re-installed v1.2.0.0. Everything works flawlessly there, so I believe I'm not missing out any important steps myself.

I noticed that the CAB for v1.2.0.2 is quite a bit smaller than for 1.2.0.0 (374 KB over 596 KB). Generally that's a good thing, but are you sure nothing got lost there?

I use an o2 XDA Trion (HTC TyTN), have been using sWM on this device since version 1.0. I've done a few resets with the device and the watch, but still the same problem.

:confused:

Best,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Nightcookie:

1. You dont have to pair your watch again if you're just updating smartWatchM.

2. I've made a change so please try downloading the latest version again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Moneytoo,

1.

True. When I updated from v1.2.0.0 to v1.2.0.2, sWM still worked nicely with my watch.

But sometimes I have to reset the watch and pair again, because now and then I use my watch with a Nokia and the SIC software. Going back to my PPC I have to pair anew. That worked no problem with v1.2.0.0.

2.

Reset my watch and tried again with the newest files of v1.2.0.2 (i.e. the files currently linked to your first post). Still, this version "cannot find any unpaired watch." :(

Conclusion:

If the watch has been reset and I have to pair again, version 1.2.0.2 will definitely not recognise the watch. Tried the previous version again, and it definitely works there.

No idea why, though... :confused:

Help is much appreciated!

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthewf01:
Moneytoo, thank you very much for looking into this, I appreciate your work to get this device implemented - I look forward to seeing support in your upcoming versions :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Nightcookie:

Now I think I know the reason... Since 1.2.0.1 you can only pair unpaired watches. To pair your watch, you have to delete the watch from MS BT Device Manager. This is because of users with several watches.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
THAT DID IT! :D

Brilliant, as-ever brilliant moneytoo!

Token of appreciation is on its way, for a brilliant piece of software I use every day.

Thanks a lot!

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aik666:
Hi ,

Thanks moneytoo for this great software .

Currently i am facing this issue .

My watch is connected to my xperia on com port 6

call notification is working fine but whenever a sms message arrives ,

the watch freezes so does the smartwatchm software and it takes around 2-3 mins before my watch wakes up and shows a sms recieved indication

moreover , the watch disconnects and reconnects during this .

I couldn do a direct connection on my phone , therefore i am wondering if its a phone bluetooth stack problem or the smartwatchm problem .

Also , i have around 2000 messages in my phone and its in IM style , does this affect ?

please advice

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
aik666:

Xperia has MS BT Stack so try using the direct connection, it should be more stable.

Hmm... This could possibly be the problem when smartWatchM searches for unread message. I'll try to optimize this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aik666:
Hi moneytoo ,

i tried direct connections and it says " disconnected " out of reach when the watch is just beside me lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -=ChrisK=.:
Are there any news about the HBH-DS980 headset? Is it worthwhile for me to install smartWatch?

Chris
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Try downloading the beta (link in my sig). I've made a change that fix the sms delay/freeze but I'm unable to test it since I dont have so many messages in my inbox. :)

Disconnection: My fried uses the latest version on his Xperia without any problem.

Switch from Com to direct connect mode, restart the device and make sure that the com port is really deleted (in BT manager). Make sure BT stays on and turn the watch off and on.

You can even hard reset the watch (enable pairing mode, press and holt both button on the right until the screen gets white).

Not yet. I'm afraid there might be one disadvantage - the software (when running) will use headset or handsfree profile so this will make the headset unable to use for calls.

But there's way... Make it similar to the JETware solution. I do plan make something similar for BT watches and other gadgets but who knows when or if ever... :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthewf01:
Well that's bad news... please don't give up on adding DS980 support, though! Even if we just have to deal with no phone calls through headset for a while...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sytaxing:
Request

any possibility making this work with a Tritton AX-Bluestream?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Symbian S60 support?

Moneytoo,

is there any chance that you could develop something for Symbian OS (S60)?

I know there's SIC! BT-Watch (and I use it with my Nokia), but that's just so ... UNSOPHISTICATED! :D

smartWatchMobile is so much more powerful, and I just wish you could be persuaded to drum up something for Symbian. I can imagine you just don't have enough time on your hands tho ...

Many thanks for your efforts,

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tuo_kaerf:
Then, he could develop a PalmOS version as well...never ending story.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
BT headsets: I will try the SE headset however other headsets maybe in the next generetion since this application model blocks headsets for calls

Symbian, Palm and other systems: So far I stuck with WM because I better make it 100% working with WM than 50% working with each other platform (since I dont know anything about developing for Symbian...).

aik666:

What watch do you have? Is your Xperia running WWE/English ROM (what version) or some other language?

Maybe something blocks the connection - close all running applications and disconnect all (bt) devices. (Have you checked that the COM port is really deleted?)

(You can reset smartWatchM settings by deleting registry key HKLM\Software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] il bruco:
hi everybody,

anyone knows the model of the watch on the right of the picture in the first page? I mean the digital one.

Thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
il bruco:

Citizen i:VIRT (http://citizen.jp/ivirt/)

(http://www.smartmadsoft.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=20)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] boccaa:
)hi moneytoo and thank for your's work

I install new release of smtwtch...but now in my watch (bw150) but full lenght sms non work.

If i receive long sms i see only preview (same first release...)

thank for your's help

bocca

italy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
Hi boccaa,

you are right, this problem is fixed in beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bob2k4:
Hi

I have an SE Xperia, standard ROM. I have installed SmartWatch and it works fine while the phone is active. However has soon as the screen goes off you can no longer check notifications. If a call or SMS comes through then the info gets sent to the watch after a minute or so.

Is there a workaround to keep the features on when the screen is off? ie when the phone is asleep?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
bob2k4:

Are you sure this isn't caused by other software that modified power management of your device? Because other Xperia users obviously dont have such problems.

Does the screen goes on when there is an incoming call (sms/mail)?

(If you have hundreds of text messages in SMS inbox, download the latest beta that fixes this bug)

What is the value of HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\sys\DisableAutoSuspend? Could you export this registry key HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bob2k4:
Hi Moneytoo

The screen comes on with a call or text is recieved. The issue i'm having is for example when the phone is asleep (display off) and I want to check for messages i've missed you can press the stop key and it used to display the number of missed calls, SMS, MMS, and Email as well as the battery meter at the bottom.

Unless the phones display is on nothing happens.

As for the reg details/ The DisableAutoSuspend is set to 1

As for the export bit, where can I find this?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
bob2k4:

Ok, I understand. You can use Dotfred's TaskManager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) to export this key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bob2k4:
Hi again. I've installed TaskMgr and tried to locate the above as requested. However I can't seam to find this in the regedit. I can only find the HKEY ones. Could you asssit?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
HKLM stands for HKEY LOCAL MACHINE.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moneytoo:
v1.2.0.3 - small update that includes few small fixes and more important experimental support for Bluetooth Vibrating Bracelet (LM959).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mobile24hr:
Anybody confirm that I can take this software with HTC Touch HD?

I'm not pretty sure because I tried with HTC Cruise, it's not work.

I have tried with SE X1, it's perfect.

So please confirm, and I would purchase this HD to be my new PDA.

Thanks a lot, mate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tuo_kaerf:
Sorry for the question: Does it work with a Toshiba G710/VDA GPS (WM 6.0 standard) as well?