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[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] MinimalistChris:
Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I use theatre mode all the time but yes it is muddier than music mode which sacrifices volume for better audio quality
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
About stereo crosstalk can you ''fix'' it with V4A?

Or there are no way to enhance stereo?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] djbutter:
I usually use theatre mode. If I'm playing through the speakers, volume is more important to me.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] djbutter:
On another note, I'm having this horrible issue with BT audio. When playing music in google play music through BT earphones (jaybird x2) or my home speaker (LG soundbar), occasionally there's a really loud, awful screeching noise!

Anyone else have this issue?

Otherwise, BT audio is noticeably improved over the 10!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
Was listening with aptX in my car for a while today and I had no issues along with noticing no difference. Same volume level when connected to an Audioengine B1 that has a 2 volt output to my Audison bit-Ten. Wish I could do a quicker back and forth test with my 10 but I'd have to sync the Bluetooth over and over.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mark112887:
I have to admit that I'm a little bit worried about the sound quality on the u11. One of the things that I really enjoyed on the m8 m9 and the 10 was the Dolby audio enhancement. I have been using that in combination with power amp music player for years and you'd be surprised what kind of sound quality I get out of my Sennheiser HD 558's. I can hear the bass in music the way it is meant to be heard, almost felt, I don't hear that distorted bass sound that you tend to hear on lower end devices.

This may sound stupid to some people but if the sound quality is not at least the same as what I get on my 10 then I'm going to send the phone back. I just got done trying out a $300 pair of Bluetooth headphones with my 10 and I was not impressed, they were close in some areas but for $300 I want more than close. There is a cheaper pair that I have been thinking about trying with the 11 but I'm not sure that I'm going to want to invest all of this money just to be able to say I own the new flagship, and get half decent sound out of it with headphones, especially when for all intents and purposes I'm perfectly happy with my 10.

Right before the phone ended up shipping out to me I was debating on canceling my order because once the feeling of new shiny device wore off I started the question what about the new phone actually got me excited and to be perfectly honest the answer for me is really nothing. I think edge sense could be cool but the apparent lack of support from case manufacturers has me a bit scared as well. I have never owned an all glass phone before and I don't think you could pay me enough to use this phone without any full-body protection I understand that the camera is much better but honestly I don't see a problem with the one that I have. So this could be the first year that I actually hang on to my phone.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I just paired this phone with the Fiio K1 DAC. Much better audio experience. The HTC 10 apparently was better than the K1 by about 10% so the fact that the K1 sounds so good compared to the adapter is quite telling
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Creative_X:
Which headphones (impedance)?

Do you use some better music player apk for better quality and DAC support?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
RHA MA 750i (16 Ohms)

ATH M50X (38 Ohms)

I use Spotify Extreme Quality - Fiio K1 works straight away with USB C to Micro USB Cable, no need for special apps.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] fernando sor:
The sound on this phone is light years better then the s7 edge. In fact pretty much everything is better. Using Samsung for two years made me appreciate HTC.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
The Exynos version has a better DAC actually.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] fernando sor:
I completely disagree. The sound on the edge is weak imhp. But hey to each his own I guess.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Digitalkarma:
i dont claim to be an audiophile but i love them ath-50's definitely the best pair of cans ive owned and i dont own or havent listen to many quality headphones besides Monster turbines, Beats, Bose or cheap Sony buds . good info and suggestions guys.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
The sound on the S7 Edge is weak simply due to the amp being weak out of the box, not the DAC.. S7 Edge DAC has a lower noise floor than the U11 and better stereo crosstalk. Still, with root you can get the headphone out louder than the HTC 10 (You can increase analog gain to push 1.1 volts). Snapdragon version is definitely poor all around (poor DAC and amp) but the Exynos version is good.

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I really like the M50s. Hyper X Clouds (Takstar Pro 80's) are decent too
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Digitalkarma:
i'm kind of feeling a bit sentimental here with fernando sor. HTC still has a better dev community

one thing i do miss since i am rocking Note 5 is the audio experience from HTC. Not that there is anything wrong with Samsung's audio, its serviceable but not anything extraordinary. my ath-50s sound good on the Note maybe better than what that phone is probably capable of but might probably sound a whole lot better on an HTC device. i love that Samsung has an EQ option on their music player which is why i say it sounds better than it normally would. HTC Sense Music didnt have an EQ option on M7 so it was a welcome feature to have going from M7 to Note 5.

with the nougat update, i'm loving Samsung's redesigned UI and the music player got a nice visual update as well one of those is taking the two most predominant colors on the album art from the song youre listening to give the seekbar a nice color blend look. it just reminds me how HTC hasnt really done nothing to their music player since m7 only adding a couple new visualizers a few years back.. i guess thats why they couldnt be bothered to bring Sense Music to the U11 its a shame. i mean i'm all for HTC to strip down Sense and get rid of duplicate apps like HTC Calculator or Calendar but HTC Music shouldnt be one of them that was part of the Sense experience..

but i digress. other reason why i miss HTC audio is the boomsound. i dont like Samsung's setup with speaker on the bottom where it tends to get covered. i didnt like HTC getting rid of front facing speakers on the 10 and regretfully i missed out on good headphone audio. i am willing to give the 2nd edition of HTC's Hi-fi speakers another chance it looks much improved and may be as close as we get to rivaling the m7 or m8's front speaker. plus getting a better 3rd party DAC and were good to go
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
So who's the gentleman who tried V4A with the adapter usb c to 3.5mm?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] eneka:
Just got to do a quick test with my 80ohm dt770 pro on the the u11 and 10

I'm no audiophile but I do enjoy some quality. To me, the 10 paired with the Dolby enhancements gives it to edge over the usb-c to aux adapter on the u11. That's not to say the it's bad on the u11. Just not as good. It's also a notch quieter, but then again, I'd never listen to them at Max volume. So all in all, the u11's USB c fax isn't as good as the 10, but it's definitely good enough for majority of the people.

The usonics are nice for free headphones but man are they bass heavy.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Just ordered the Fiio K1 and hope that will be a good improvement.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
I think we should give HTC the chance to improve the adapter with a Boomsound update, unless you are in a hurry :)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
I agree, but I want to try it on some of my other phones too.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
Hi

Can you help me?

When the phone is ringing..... does the phone fire in both speakers? or only in the bottom? the ringer volume in the HTC 10 was very bad because it only fire by the bottom speaker

Thanks
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
Use Hangouts from a different device to call it...or ask a family member to call you....

Edit: Actually, do you even have the device yet? (I don't...just offering help)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
I was surprised by the usonics. My auto EQ actually came out quite nice. A little hot around 2k I think but the bass is tamed. I hate bassy headphones so HTC got this right for my ear. I'm using the original tips.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] borisb:
Compared the sound while inner ting the adapter to my Galaxy S8. It is the same! Lows and highs.

???
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
So I decided to try the USB C to 3.5mm adapter on the 10...

It sounds louder out of the 10 than the U11. I haven't gone through a quality check because I have little reason to but volume level is almost equal to the headphone jack. As you can imagine, no, you don't get to use BoomSound with Dolby when doing this. This brings on the interesting case of what's going on software/hardware wise that makes the 10 more powerful than the U11 when outputting through this adapter.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
I wonder if we should launch a petition so that HTC implement Boomsound in the adapter, it's a shame we are just as good as the G6 and S8 this time
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 4ktvs:
I think the HTC U11 is a little bass heavy but overall is a bit better than my Z3 compact. That is high praise as many really love the audio in that phone. The wired stock in ear headphones are good but undetailed.

The speakers though are the best I have ever had in any cell phone. I have really been missing out on that end of things and it really helps with the call quality.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
Where did you find a short USB C to micro USB cable? they seem to be rare as hen's teeth here in the UK...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Just tried the k1 with my U11 and no sound at all from my Sony headphones. Player used was power amp plus tried Google play music. If you got the k1 to work with the U11, please give us a link to the otg cable you bought. Other posters on XDA cannot get it to work either. Headfi. Org claims it does not work with Android. Please do a favor and let us know how you got it to work with the U11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I actually wanted a shorter cable (This is one foot, the others are like one metre! LOL). https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fosmon-Mic...0426&sr=8-2&keywords=usb+c+to+micro+usb+cable

Worked immediately.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
OK, I ordered one. So you did use it with the Fiio k1 and a HTC U11?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] borisb:
I tried the adapter o the Galaxy S8 and it sound the same as on the u11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
Aha! thanks for that - ordered a couple. Meanwhile, I ordered a pair of very nice Aukey USB A female to USB C OTG adapters so I can use the cable supplied with the K1 - they're not ideal for portable use, but work well:

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[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
Yep not very jogging friendly :rolleyes:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
You haven't seen me jogging ;)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Just received cable. K1 lights up, but no sound. There must be some step I'm missing.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
Strange. Here are all the steps I took.

Opened box, used K1 on my PC.

Used micro usb to micro usb to test on my S 7, worked.

Plugged into my U11 using USB C to Micro USB cable. worked
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
So, there are no settings on the phone that have to be enabled? I'll clear the cache and see if that helps. Perhaps when I installed USB audio player the other day it might have messed up a sound setting. Other than that, I don't know and thanks for your patience and help.

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I think I figured it out. The K1 must be defective. I tried it on my laptop using the supplied cable. It loaded the drivers, but would not play any sound through headphones. I checked every setting I could find. I'll send it back and try another solution.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
That sounds more likely. Perhaps just get another sent?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] liggerz87:
If had m7 m8 m9 didn't have 10 got u11 and defo really good sound also have s8+ lol the usonic earphones are good aswel I have sennheiser cx475 and they are good also compared the Samsung akg earphones aswel
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
Yep I think earphones with ohms under 21 will be very good on the adapter, only big headphones with big ohms will have some difficulties and the stereo crosstalk will be more obvious
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] djbutter:
I've come around on the usonic earphones. The more I use my own with the adapter, the more the highs bother me. I do like how the usonics smooth have a smoother, less harsh sound to them. Reminds me more of the 10's Dolby BoomSound.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] borisb:
How would u compare the Galaxy and the u11?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] liggerz87:
I find they are both good u11 so much more easy to hold can't beat htc for music lol s8+ has bigger battery and HTC seems to keep up with it
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mark112887:
So I decided to return my u11. At first it was a difficult decision but the more time I spent thinking about it, I think it was the correct decision for me to make. The decision was based mostly on audio performance when compared to my 10, I use a pair of Sennheiser HD 558 headphones and I really thoroughly enjoy the sound I get out of them. When I first tried the new phone I didn't think the audio quality was that much different, Until I did a side-by-side comparison with my 10. In every category the 10 blew away the u11 when using my Sennheiser headphones. Admittedly I was not interested in using the included earbuds at all, but I decided I was going to go ahead and give them a try and I was pleasantly surprised, those little earbuds managed to reproduce the same sound quality I get out of my Sennheiser headphones. With that being said however I did have some problems, my ears really don't like earbuds, no matter what the size I always have a problem with pain in one of my ears when something is in it. Sso despite how surprised I was by their performance I did not want to continue to use them, not to mention the idea of no longer using my other headphones which I paid almost $200 for when I bought them.

It disappoints me to see that HTC seems to be disabling certain features and making them accessible with their earbuds. The main reason for my return was because I could not afford to sit on the new phone waiting and hoping that they release a firmware update for the adapter to enable these features

There are some more reasons those are the main ones, thanks for the HTC and their superior audio quality starting with the M8 which I used in combination with power amp my phone has become my primary portable audio player, so if I'm not 100% satisfied with that experience in combination with all others I'm not going to hold onto such an expensive device
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Mark, I can certainly understand your concerns and decision. The HTC 10 should certainly last a while longer until maybe something better comes out. My LG V10 is great with its quad dac, but I just don't want to carry around a heavy phablet as my daily driver. My Axon 7 is great for music, but the camera is lacking. I noticed Sprint is now selling HTC 10s new for $240. I might pick one up and unlock it for AT&T. I had one briefly last year, but had to return it due to a defective screen. I remember it being quite good.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] richteralan:
Just received audio adapter firmware update.

This is the second firmware update since my purchase.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] djbutter:
So has there been any noticeable difference since the two fw updates?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
My U11 is finally here, and I will be browsing this thread to see what others experience, and I will report my findings for my device. And for the record, I'm on Sprint, if that means anything to anyone.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] richteralan:
No noticeable difference with either 320kb CBR MP3 or 24/96 FLAC.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
I can't tell a difference here either. What I would like to know is what you guys think of the audio using the adapter and a good pair of headphones. I'm not talking earbuds, but closed ear headphones. I think it sounds pretty good playing stored flac files on the phone using USB audio player pro. I do agree though that my LG V10 with its quad dac sounds better. Please let us know what your opinion of this audio is.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] SandyFox:
I'm afraid that it still sounds the same to me too. It doesn't seem too bad as far as general quality goes, not great, but not bad. I haven't taken much time to analyze the dongle myself due to it being much too bright for me. It literally gives me a headache with everything I've tried it with unless I aggressively EQ down the highs. I'll keep using my other USB audio devices with it for now, from which the quality ends up being as expected, and compatibility seems to be plenty broad so far. I have yet to get a good DAC/amp for it (probably going to grab a Fiio K1 later), but all four USB audio devices I've attached to it so far have worked great, with the partial exception of an old SB X-Fi box which tried to draw too much current and needed the help of a powered hub to work.

Thankfully, I am quite pleased with the pack in USonic headphones. They don't beat out a truly good pair of headphones of course, but they're certainly a good deal better than I had expected, even having heard positive reviews before getting the phone, and I've found myself to be quite happy to use them for casual listening on the go. I'm not sure that the noise cancelling is doing a lot, as I don't think I've noticed any more reduction than I would expect from just their physical build. The sound they produce is remarkably good for what they are, I find them to be quite comfortable, and they are not offensive to me as the dongle has shown itself to be.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] richteralan:
I'm using the adapter with my Onkyo H500BT. It sounds good enough for my FLACs.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
I've been using the Cambridge Audio DacMagic XS (I bought it some time ago for use with a laptop) with USB Audio Player PRO, and - as one might expect - it sounds way better than the HTC adapter, and clearly better than the Fiio K1 (also to be expected, given it's twice the price). It's twice the size of the K1, but still easily pocketable, and has the useful feature of large volume control buttons.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
The Cambridge looks good. What micro USB to usb-c otg cable did you buy to connect it? Would appreciate a link to the cable too. Thanks.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
I haven't yet received the cable I ordered (Micro USB to USB C OTG), so meanwhile, I'm using an Aukey USB A female to USB C OTG adapter. It's a bit clumsy, but does the job.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Thanks. I ordered the Cambridge and will be here tomorrow. I'll let you know my thoughts, but it should sound quite good according to the reviews. I listen to most of my music in the house so no problem for me using an external DAC.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
I'm very interested to hear what you think of it - I was surprised at the small difference between the Fiio K1 and the HTC adapter compared big difference between the Fiio K1 and the DacMagic. However, this was using my old 'reference' Sony MDR SA-5000 headphones (I only call them 'reference' because they're the most detailed neutral, and transparent I've heard). I haven't yet tried a comparison using the B&W P7 Wireless in wired mode - this may well be different because of the excellent bass response of the P7's.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
Listening to Lorn's Acid Rain on the K1, I can notice a decent difference over the 3.5mm adapter. I'm at a happy medium though. I can't see myself spending any more money on adapters and dacs etc whilst I use my RHA MA 750.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] borisb:
OHH MY GOD!

Is this what you do to listen to music?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Just got my Cambridge a few minutes ago and my what a difference between the stock dac/dongle. I used my Sony MDR-7506 reference phones. The Cambridge does get warm, will make a nice hand warmer in the winter. Seriously, it's good, very good. No worries now with the audio on the U11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
Only until the correct cable arrives. Then I can ditch the USB A to USB C adapter.

OTOH, if you're referring to using an external DAC, yes - if you want good quality audio, it's well worth the minor inconvenience of having a little DAC/amp unit on the cable. It's not worth doing if you're using the supplied USonic earbuds or cheap headphones. Bluetooth is unmatched for convenience, and can give pretty good quality audio, but it's lossy, and doesn't match a decent DAC/amp.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rmc6901:
Thanks. I have the Dragonfly Black. It is ok, but I like the Cambridge better and need the volume control.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
.. ignore, messed up posts...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ismailonrails:
S7 edge had worst AMP IMO and that make better DAC sort of worthless, DAC without great AMP is pretty much useless. I had S7 edge and its the one of the worst audio experience I had, Pixel XL also was underwhelming, iPhone 6s even 7 was so superior and HTC 10 sounds freaking awesome. Even oneplus 3 sounds better to my ears. BTW headphones comes with S8 are bad IMO especially if you compare USonic or HTC 10 High res audio headphones.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Yerry:
Anyone noticed that the left speaker has lower volume than the right speaker?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ammymike7:
How is bluetooth audio performance of your phone?

I have sony home theatre system at home and when I play song through bluetooth, it lacks bass. Everything else is good, its just the bass which I feel is lacking.

My brother has one plus 3t and is sounds better in home theatre when connected via bluetooth. More bass, more richness.

Any thoughts?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] royalcrown:
If the US 11s ever get Oreo, then Bluetooth should sound a lot better. * supposedly supports BT 5.0 and HD audio over BT.