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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
SMD7 is a Hardware Port and it get viritualised by a OS driver u can put

SMD7 to a normal COM Port but it dosn't matter, MSM7200 has a GPS System

inside but there is no Tranceicer(RFR6300) and no Antenna, so GPS will never

work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
The chip are ok, gps can find at Comport 4, have only to setup in external Gps Program port Com4 and Hardware port "None". But are disabled in Radio rom, we can find only some sat but don't fix nothing. We can't enable now because the NV item 148 are blocked in read-only mode, i can't understand if because are locked by vendor or because the Hardspl are very bugged, rtask dont work very well or im not able to use. Can find in Radio rom the address of the Nv item, change and try if Gps work?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
I think Wi-fi chip are not present in Niki. The Gps Antenna i dont know. Valvarin are you sure?.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
....

really shure....

we spent in this min.120 hours.

found a way to change the nv-items.

open the hardware.

patched radios.

other OS.

..................

the transceiver is not present pls belive me.

but we are working on wifi.

and it looks not so bad
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
why do you think wi-fi chip is not present? I exposed time ago (look up my previous posts in this thread) there are hardware indications about its existance. Have you desoldered the silver box beside the BT chipset?

please, specify a bit more ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] GpsPasSion:
"and it looks not so bad"

Ah, probably means it works then ;-) Keep us updated on your progress, even if release is still not ready.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] zargalo:
Hi,

i found one document(kind of datasheet), its refers to qualcomm chipset and rfr chip variants.

The document is in korean language, but still is possible to view some tables and graphics.

If anyone want to take a look here is the link:

http://home.ianyang.ac.kr/_upload/P...%E2%BC%FA_%B9%D7_%BB%EA%BE%F7%B5%BF%C7%E2.pdf
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
And where are the Mac Address? to me are not show.

I believe you valvarin, for me are not problem i have Gps bluetooth sirf III very very little .

But if there are really wi-fi im very interesting....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
the very first thing is the hardware, if it is there, you can get whatever you want. MAC address is the value of one register in the WLAN chipset... the only thing is to "show" to you O.S. where this register can be read ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
Ok there are only one Nv Item related to Wlan, how you can activate?.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
WLAN isnt related to the NV Items.

WLAN Chip is present with Antenna.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gfreek:
Are we there yet?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
I can say ... a lot of things are done ... to make it fool profed ... its very complicate and the device crashs in the moment.

it means ... looks good ... need more time but we think its possible!

emapitest works!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
if theres anyway i can help drop me a pm
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
Keep up the good work guys you will be known as legends of the Nike!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chetaboy:
good luck

Yes, good luck people, keep on going for us...and for all this great comunity...

I´m very proud of being a part of this amazing "family"...

Tanxs too you all...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
That sounds promising, i keep both of my thumbs clenched tight in my fists.

Hope you succeed!

I think the WLAN issue is very important, even if it means we have to wait a bit longer for the german ROM to be released!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
We need a OS with implemented WIFI drivers... and evtl. the first

OS with WIFI will be a german... but we have to solve many problems

till then.

And if we solve all and WIFI is working... we will post all needed Drivers

and registry settings.

And it can implemented in all OS's they will build up. (the only thing, the credits to the wifi patch have to set to us xD)

UPDATE: Very good News in this cold night^^ we can enable the WIFI Eeprom and get no errors while loading the

Driver.

this post is copyrighted to the WIFI Crew...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] netdrg:
It's very good news thank's for your hard work !!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Adri_tifosi:
xDDDD :D:D:D:D Wifi Crew is the best xD
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
WifiCrew RULEZ
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
We must install new ROM?

Or only add dll's and registry to existed ROM?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sackbauer:
as it is hard work until we get the wifi drivers there is nothing wrong giving credit to the wifi group by saying 'wifi crew rules' - or ?

these guys are spending night by night developing things for us nike users for free !!!

so - wifi crew rules ;-)

good morning all
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
very great news.

thanks for keeping us intouch and informed!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Parg:
Really great news. Thanks for your developing and the time you spent.

Certainly this question has been asked before, but the thread is long, so I'll do it again:

Why would HTC build a disabled WiFi-Reciever into the Niki? Sounds pretty senseless to me.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
Primary question....

When we can expected working WiFi on ours phones?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Padilha:
You can expect it when it works.

At the moment there's nothing more to say. A lot of work is being done and a lot of work has already been done.

Please be pacient and cross fingers for those that are working on it.

Note: Start saving your money for donations to this project.

:D

Cya soon,

"The always present..."
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
I think maximum 1 month!

We need to develope a full proved UI to patch the Wifi function. Next ... possible we protect it, to prevent disassembl the code. guys how want sell it ... havent a changes without NASA Knowlage LOL
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
i believe htc were rushing to get the device out before christmas, perhaps they didnt have time to get it working stabley. from a marketing standpoint, it would make a lot of sense not include wifi on the touch dual so the original touch would continue to sell.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
I reallly want to donate Yours project.

But really we must waiting about 1 month ? ;-(

I have a dream last night, that Wifi in my Touch Dual working, so don't breake my dreams ;-(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Adri_tifosi:
According Net , Maximun 1 month , maybe less.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Padilha:
The 1 month time can easly turn into one week or into 2 months, because it is not working yet. But one thing is sure, it will be there as soon as possible.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] snudel:
never! god damn it. it's really getting boring. you have umts. why wifi???
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] carlosmozas:
'cause wifi is free..:p, we all, (the fools that doesn'n know how to do the work), are waiting to donate. let's cross the fingers. At least now we can make the SIM Unlock for free...:D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fritsypeij:
Guess HTC has disabled Wifi because for some people it would be one reason more to buy the more expensive Tytn II. Plus, maybe the hardware is present to provide HTC with an asset for future tricks. All marketing considerations if you ask me.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] moritz.narnhammer:
For private reasons not of your concern, troll.

Catch the fish:

<((()<

and go play elsewhere.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] KRiST0F:
They disablet wifi in europ to promote UMTS/3G networks. But they forgot its damm expencive!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] stoneyduke:
I'm ready to wait...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dtm203:
So what your saying is the US model or any model outside of europe has wifi? :confused:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
As fair as i know Touch Dual's from China had Wifi.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] KRiST0F:
US and EU model are the same, the Asian version has wifi enabled.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] carlosmozas:
So, The difference between the models, is in the hardware or the software?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
Most probably the software. It would cost HTC to have 2 models. They will have disabled it in software probably by not having the driver or whatever it uses to be able to interact with the Wifi chip. Im guessing. Or the wifi is built into the chipset which means they cant take away wifi they can only disable it.

Kurt
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] clonmult:
Which is the way that a lot of things have been done in the IT industry for a very, very long time ....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] KRiST0F:
software, but it isn't that easy 2 just put up a rom of asia. The touch does some checksums :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rumble291:
Yep it sure has! its just like graphics cards that have different BIOSes to lock pipelines and to slow speeds etc. At the end of the day its just companys finding the most cost effective solution. Which HTC will do aswell.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
Have sites? Links? In the common Asia Roms, you doesnt see any WIFI Drivers. Need more infos ... possible we can extract some parts, we need ^_^
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] soulcrusher:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=847 , It clearly shows the asian touch dual has wifi;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sackbauer:
it also says fm radio receiver ?!?!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
this was a preview of this Phone from the September 2007.....

This is more actually!

Sorry this is only a translated Version of this Site but it shows there is no WIFI but a FM Radio
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] soulcrusher:
ah yes, forgot about that one:)

You're right, all the reviews about the phone saying it has wifi are from september or october, so I guess it's quite obvious it doesn't have wifi :p.. But that doesnt say wifi cant be made to work:P
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gmuller:
You guys don't have fm radio? Mine works fine. (Telstra Australia 20 key model)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
Really?? Is yours a Neon?

Whats going on here. Does the Neon have differant hardware than the Nike?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

Really :eek:

Touch Dual 850

Can u dump ur OS pls?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gmuller:
Yep,

Mine is the touch dual 850 (neon).

I would dump the os, but i have no idea how to do that, sorry.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] morenonew:
from HTC official site

http://www.htc.com/au/product.aspx?id=31592
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] DaVince:
Can you actually use a Neon ROM on a Niki to get the FM Radio working? :confused:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Epke:
please give me FM radio! :D :D It would be much more fun in the train!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
the neon has a differant transceiver chip i believe. im not getting my hopes up, but its worth a try if someone with a neon can dump their rom.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
NIKI have the wrong Blue Tooth Chip ... no FM Radio possible!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] test321:
Have a look at the HTC Website the Austria Version has a touch dual 850 next to a touch dual. One has FM the other not.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sackbauer:
austrian website ? are you sure or do you mean the australia website .... had a look but did not find it - please provide link !

thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
OK i tell it again ... the next Guy how ask the same question, i will hit him with a wet girl!

HTC Niki havent the right Blue Tooth Chip!!!!!!

This little stupid Chip have in same Version a FM Radio. We know to 100% ... all Niki 100, 200 and possible 300 too doesnt have the right Blue Tooth Chip.

Next point ... FM Radio works only with Cabel Headset from HTC. If you use a Blue Tooth Headset ... you havent a FM Antenna and you can hear nothing. FM Radio is realy ... useless!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sackbauer:
mit einem nassen mädchen ?! with a wet girl ?!

in this case - please move on ... this is the sweetest pain you can give me ...

cheers netrunner ;-)

nevermind being curious about new features of the nike ...

have a great day !
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] test321:
You are right sorry its the Australien Website

http://www.htc.com/au/product.aspx

go to Touch phone..

there 2 Touch Dual one is named touch dual 850 this one is with FM Radio

http://www.htc.com/au/product.aspx?id=31592

From the HTC Website:

Audio Built-in microphone, speaker and FM radio

Ring tone supported formats:

- MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB

- 40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1(SMF)/SP MIDI

Maybe there are different Versions and one has FM-Radio built in the ohter not!

The Touch Dual 850 is the Quad-band Version
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
Yes ... some Guys need it LOL

This is the HTC Neon! A lot of things are different! Main changes are in the RF section.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
No wifi chip

Sorry guys to kill any hope ... but no wifi chip in the Niki. Under the metallic part near the bluetooth chip it's only the 2.4Ghz "oscillator". Except if the RF on the mainboard include wifi capability (and I didn't succeed to find any info on these chips HFQA29 and HFQA55) I didn't find any wifi chip.

Despite the antenna can be shared between bluetooth and wifi and RF6300C accept collaborative with wifi chip.

It's crazy HTC didn't include wifi in this amazing phone .. Combined with the video driver lack, I'm feel a little bit fooled by this company.. And I'm quite sur to not be the only one.

Maybe I'm wrong (and will be happy !!) but for me this Touch Dual is only a pocket pc with phone functionality. No more. And I don't have any data contract (quite expensive in France) .... can forget Edge or 3G capabilities.

If anyone has any info on these chips ... welcome.

Cheers,:(:(:(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
sorry..but... this post's saying the contrary no?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cefoul:
No Wifi (2nd part)

As I said, No specific wifi chip.

Unless one of the 2 chips (HFQA29 or HFQA55) has wifi functionality.

But what I understand is the wifi eeprom in the the polaris and in the kaiser is based on TNETW1251 from Texas Instrument. But in the Niki, it is not present.

Also the eeprom needs to be activated by the SPL Bootloader.

Cannot imagine HTC use new RF chip with Wifi in the Niki ... but why not.

I would be really impressed and enjoyed if someone can explain me where are located wifi functions.

I spent a lot of time on the web to search and open twice my niki to find this answer. I think it's quite important to be sure on this before to try to enable wifi in SPL or OS.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
TNETW1251 is present!

driver starts ... emapitest works ... you get the right answers! eeprom is present after edit 2 byte + mac adress!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] willy792003:
great news! so does this mean the wait for wi-fi on niki will be over soon? ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
Anyone see this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=322225&page=4
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
yes ... this is done! we hung in the moment to config the powermanagement IC in the SPL. Your thread discripe a way to dump and rebuild the eeprom in the Wifi Chip. We have done the same ;-) with a different way!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
Nice :) So how long will take You to share with us working patch? :)

I prepare to donate for You (i never use PayPal yet...)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
If we can write in the eeprom.....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] klzthb:
I get a credit card for make a donation.... :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
Dont Donate me in the moment ... other Guys make more and the most things are too complicate for me! If all is done ... the next step is a fool proofed patcher!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
Of course we're waiting :)

When patcher will be available then we donate all who's make this patch :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] DaPozt:
Ill donate to whoever contributed to this patcher :) Keep up the good work guy's and let us know about any improvements.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jawad485:
waiting for the miracle

Good luck guys... we are waiting for the miracle to happen. Im sure that there would be a way to get the things done.

ciao/salut/bye
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
Just so you KNOW. GPS IS on there. WiFi is NOT. Check here
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
but..... did you read the previous posts??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
I did. I see lots and lots of peeps still ranting on about WiFi being there and some debunking it. If there is no PM7500 and/or RFR6500/6525 present then there is no WiFi. Just wanted to make it VERY clear. :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
Youre very wrong i'm affraid to say. Read the pdf again, and have a look at what hardware is needed for gps and wifi...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] janan:
That's not really true. HTC has been using WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS chipsets from Texas Instruments and other semiconductor brands, rather than Qualcomm (I guess Qualcomm is more expensive :) ).

The negation of a solution does not mean that there are no other solutions (to be unveiled) ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
Buddy the M7540 IS on there so GPS is covered. Anthing else you want to reference to?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

PLS READ ALL THE POSTS HERE....

GPS is inside the MSM7200 Chip but

there is no the tranceifer for GPS = no GPS

For WIFI we need a BFR6300 IC + WL125 Chip both are inside.

these two Chips are from Texas Instrument, not from Qualcomm.

And belive me we spent more time in this then u.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Billokko:
good reply :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bdacier:
Does anyone of the devs have the opportunity to give us a proof of concept? Screen cap's or vid's? Just to let all the non-believers see that it is in our Niki's! And because I'm just dying to see ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

What do u want to see?

Wifi is not working atm.

What we have at the moment is the right Emapi command output.

It's the same now like one from a Kaiser.

But this only works with a special SPL... the problem is no

OS with WIFI support will boot with this SPL.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
im not your buddy, guy.

thats a south park reference for you.

ps, read the thread, we've all seen the pdf that you waltzed in posting after 400+ posts on the subject.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bdacier:
That's good enough for me!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

OK here some informatione from a debug log:

+EnableDriversByConfigSetting
DEX : ENABLE
I2C : ENABLE
SMD : ENABLE
DPRAM : ENABLE
DPRAM-VIRCMD : ENABLE
DPRAM-VIRDAT : ENABLE
Keypad : ENABLE
BKL : ENABLE
LED : ENABLE
MISC : ENABLE
MISC-2 : ENABLE
BT : ENABLE
BATTERY : ENABLE
USB : ENABLE
SD : ENABLE
TAI : ENABLE
ADSP : ENABLE
AUDIO : ENABLE
AUDIO-SPK : ENABLE
CAMERA : ENABLE
RIL : ENABLE
RIL-SMS : ENABLE
WIFI : ENABLE

LoadHigh(TNETW1251.dll)
CertVerify: TNETW1251.dll trust = 2
VA(4ab00000,84000)
IOCTL_FMD_NAND_READ_WLAN_DATA
04/17/2008 18:04:47 Write WLAN Data
04/17/2008 18:04:47 ++HTC_OEM_ReadNand
04/17/2008 18:04:47 --HTC_OEM_ReadNand
[W00:00:07:441]WLANMSG: Turn On WLAN power...
DEX_CMD_STATUS_COMPLETE
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
You mean to say that you do NOT see the PM7540 on your board? What you sporting then? Maybe it would help if you take a pic of your mainboard and post it here?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
Thats a power managment chip for the MSM7200. It is not an RF chip or any other kind of antena for gps.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
WOW:rolleyes:

u found the Power Managment Chip.

should i tell u what i also found inside the niki. :cool:

I think i have fragmented the niki now 5 or more times. remove all the

metal plates and see all chips inside.

I think u don't read the complete Thread and i also think u don't read the

PDF file also.

here is something i think u should find in the PDF file:

Information shown in this document is only exemplary of QUALCOMM products.
QUALCOMM reserves the right to make changes, at any time and without notice, to its
products that may cause its products to differ from the information shown in this document.
NOTE: Alternative GPS antenna configurations are available.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] kerrance76:
if you are so certain that it is possible to enable gps when others have spent months failing, perhaps you could be good enough to enable it for us all.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
...

OHH sorry i forget one Thing :)

GPS is really inside but without an Antenna and the right

Tranceiver u can't get any Signal.

About the Transeiver... the right is not inside but we have

no Datasheet of the one what is inside... if u found some

Informations about it u can tell us.

EDIT:// This is the Tranceiver in the Niki: MXU6100
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bdacier:
Too bad for not going to get GPS but hey, i've got a BT GPS so I'm not complaining! Especially when we can conclude that the progress on Wifi is going somewhere. I'm anxiously awaiting a nice patch, but it would help if you could give us a ETA. I know that there was talk about a month, some time ago, but thins might have changed. So if you could, please!?

In the mean time I'd like to thank all that are working there *sses off for giving us our 2,4Ghz fix!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
Wi-Fi on Nike

Guys, why won't you try to put a hand on a Nike with enabled Wi-Fi (Chinese/Japanese) and just extract the OS/radio images from there?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Valvarin:
cuz there is no niki with wifi...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
And the next Point ... for some things you need more then only flash Roms!

Wifi Mods are very complicate like NASA Technic! You must set Register in a ****ing CPU, Write in a Area they is locked and protected and mod loaders and bios releated code. BUT ... you doesnt know how are the parts you need :->
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] untaztood:
After read this topic, i think we're never get working wifi @ niki.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Padilha:
Then u should read it again.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aiondennis9000:
:rolleyes: hehehe. sure.