yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
How about some more info pls.... type of file? bitrate, encoded features... best bet is to send a sample via www.yousendit.com to: betaboy AT corecodec DOT com

This way we can look at the video and see what the issue is.... but it might be something wrong with your cooked ROM as well... IE: missing DLL's we'll see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
Radeon123 is running a stock ROM on his Orange branded TyTN II.... not the best choice IMHO ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hakushox:
betaboy I just sent you a sample mp4 that will not work. Well It does and it doesn't. 1st time you try to play the video it returns with the following error, "Player: Video codec (MPEG-4 Video) not supported by player!". Now if I hit play again, the audio plays but no video. Any Ideas what's up with this? This video played in TCMP before.

filename: MAQO0017.MP4

video codec mpeg4

RES 360x208

Sample rate 24000

Frame rate 29.97 fps

Aspect ratio auto

Device ATT Tilt

ROM: dutty v4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cruton:
I had this problem earlier today. I had problems getting the update from mobihand so I downloaded it from some umm... less than reputable source(I do own a license for it, it's not stealing). Then mobihand came through and I installed the actual version. Problem solved.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ugoff:
Yes. I can confirm that the problem with the 'MPEG-4 codec not supported' error is rooted in the... legal status of the software. The group listed as responsible for the less-legal version does not list it as one of their own, so it's safe to assume it's not reliable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hakushox:
Great I just spent 19.98 for nothing, Time to get my money back
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ycavan:
I don't use coreplayer, but if this new version is just upgraded .exe and .dll's and a prior version works with your media files, I think you'd be able to install this new version... copy the program's folder somewhere else, re-install the old version and copy the new files back... *shrugs* something to try. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mack5305:
I downloaded the teszt.avi from Sancho1234 on page 9 (a trailer for the NBC show “Heros”) file above. Playing it in the newest Coreplayer v1.1.3 Qvt I got anywhere from 580 to nearly 800 dropped frames (about 25%-33%) which was a lot in a ~1:47 minute file.

I then ran the AVI file through “Lathe” as well as “Divx” Converter 6 to reset the larger screen size down to 320x240 (i.e. Tilt's screen size). I also ran varying video framerates for fun.

Results were anywhere from a low of 2 to a high of 12 dropped frames for the resized AVI file using Lathe which uses the Xvid codec. Quite an improvement. Framerate was varied anywhere from 300-780 fps with same audio at 98 kbps. When I set it higher at 1080 fps is when the error when to 12.

I then ran it through the “Mobile” setting of the Divx Converter 6 and set the screen for 320x240 in the “Modify” section of the converter. I was surprised to see it with ZERO framerate errors!

The only thing I could find was I liked the more colorful output from “Lathe” as one can set the Saturation level up (I use about 3%). I don’t see that ability in Divx. These were all played from an 8 gig Sandisk Micro-card from a Video folder with the Coreplayer installed on the phone.

Oh. You can simply rename the Divx Converter 6 file extension from *.divx to *.avi and it will work in the Coreplayer.

Mack
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
I also get mpeg4 not supported as well.

duration: 44.6

filesize: 4556 kb

audio: gsm amr-nb

codec: gsm amr-nb

audio format: 8000 hz 1 ch

video: mpeg-4 video

codec: CoreASP

frame rate: 15.22

Click play it says mpeg-4 not supported

Click play again then video plays but no video.

What's up with this?

I am running HTC WWE Rom 1.56.405.5 Rom with Radio 1.27.15.32 installed.

It is a HTC Official Rom and not cooked.

http://download.yousendit.com/5F068B5D5E9C5477

this is the short video i was trying to play.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
What device are you running it on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Oesie:
I also get the error's that video files are not supported. Tested .avi with DivX codec and the MP4 from yousendit.com

My device is a Kaiser / TytN II with the original T-Mobile ROM installed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bouaroudj:
I have the same kind of results too.

The real improvement is only for 320x240 videos.

I am using only 1.1.3 because I am only interested by qtv hardware fonctionnality

http://dl.free.fr/nQU5kynaV/sample320.avi

273.27% for Qtv, GDI : 207.13 %, raw framebuffer : 254.86 %

http://dl.free.fr/nZqfeIriO/sample640.avi

87.07% for Qtv, GDI : 75.60 %, raw framebuffer : 88.11 %
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gnollo:
kudos to CorePlayer

I am a newbie, got the Kaiser two days ago, downloaded the beta player and it stuttered like hell on one of the samples I downloaded.

Now plays flawlessly, very happy with it.

I installed an 8 GB card, and now am trying to move a movie with the USB connection, using the copy and convert function available with Active-Synch.

It is taking ages!

How do you guys move data from your PC to the Data card?

Sorry for going off topic....but I need to transfer some movies for some more testing ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Use a card reader instead. MUCH faster...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] texarcana:
disable the convert function in active sync, it should go faster then, but realise that usb speed to/from kaiser isnt as fast as usb speed from a memorystick to/from a pc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] forcedalias:
Just purchased mine last night.

I have to say, I'm very happy with the re-sampling in CorePlayer when you play clips larger than 320x240 and the performance improvement over TCPMP is very noticeable. However, there's still a little bit of lag.

I tried the benchmark feature, left a video running for a short while and come up with these results:

Average Speed : 93.04%
Video Frames : 5795
Audio Samples : 11641366
Amount of Data : 39765 KB

Bench. Time : 4:19.775
Bench. Frame Rate : 22.31
Bench. Sample Rate : 44813
Bench. Data Rate : 1.25 Mbit/s

Original Time : 4:01.700
Original Frame Rate : 23.98
Original Sample Rate : 48000
Original Data Rate : 1.35 Mbit/s

Xvid-encoded file I was using to benchmark:

Format : Video files (AVI,DIVX,GVI)
Duration : 21:10.519
Filesize : 178950 KB

Video : MPEG-4 Video
Codec : CoreASP
Video Size : 512 x 384
Frame Rate : 23.976

Audio : MPEG Layer-3
Codec : CoreMP3
Audio Format : 48000 Hz 2 Ch
Data Bit Rate : 121 kbit/s

Played Frames : 2209
Dropped : 289
Played FPS : 21.202
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
We received the sample... thx. It looks like its not the video itself so we are moving on to other possibilities that it might be including that all users do not have the same QTv API's and that this might be the cause of the problem.... to confirm this....

EVERYONE THAT HAS THE BLANK VIDEO SCREEN BUG, PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING:

pls try another video output for us and post the results... IE; 'Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video > Video Output' and try GDI first, then DD or Raw.

Its important that everyone posts the results if video plays with other modes as this will likely confirm our suspicion that its an API issue with some other devices... and that we will need to get those devices here asap to be able to debug and add the changes for the next release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
A few of us on here have been trying to state this for a while but!...:o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Sure, its layered elimination like anything else... we needed to get samples and test them before moving on. This also includes if it is our protection system kicking in if the player was compromised... this would also cause null video.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cgcmd:
I initially got that error but i got that resolved

First install the 1.1.3 version of coreplayer

copy the player.exe (v1.1.3) to another folder

Install again the v 1.1.1 of coreplayer

use the player.exe to overwrite the 1.1.1 player.exe

viola, it works

P.S. I think the new coreplayer works great for me! I got a 100% improvement of my files! Good work betaboy!

Any plans for you to write a system driver for us as well since u are in hold of the secrets of QTV API?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
I think we might just have a "bingo" here... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
OH dear!! please don't create enemies out of allies with your moves!!!:eek::eek::eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Sorry to burst ur bubble... that is NOT the issue ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
I was just kidding! ;) Your line was too good to resist! :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Ya sod!! (Yorkshire accent) ya got me going,...:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
We are looking into the possibilities it might be as easy as a config.xml issue... if the users that are having the issue can do an uninstall > soft reset > then reinstall of CorePlayer and try the video(s) that was causing the issue.

Please post the results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
He shoots.. He scores!! :D

Seriously though, I hope this is sorted soon as I'm planning to fork out for the player, but would rather know it's gonna work before I do.

Hey BetaBoy, how come you guys don't do a trial version? Piracy issues?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Strike that last test.... we were able to semi-confirm its not a config.xml issue, however we are still testing the theory.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Got you marked in my diary FFM...BIG SMILES nice one..

Yep, I have asked the same question about the trial...?

A certain person that TRIED a lot but never got anywhere (CUDOS for his efforts!) has been given 25 free licenses but nothing has been said about it since?

Big thing that bothers me is XDA are now being used as a free beta service for profit making companies. EH Beta boy??? :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
OK.... one more test... users that have the black video screen bug... pls reset the 'zoom' function as it looks like it gets lost during the update. So goto > View > Zoom . Select 'Best Fit'. Just defining it again has helped ppl bring the vdeo back we were told.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Ping Chainfire I gave him 25 copies the otherday to distribute here to the forum elite that have the tilt/kaiser.

On a trial we plan actually 2 versions (a free version will all the free formats.... and a trial with just ASP and MP3) but this will not be till v1.5 when we release our plug-in version of the player.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Cheers, just checking...FFM put me up to the question (OK FFM I will discuss this when we get home...:D:D:D)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aksd:
@beta_boy

I'm not getting too much of an improvement with the new QTV setup its almost identical to when I'm playing with the GDI setting. I'm using a HTC TyTn2. The vid is in divx avi, 640*480 with 29.99fps.

Regards,

Akshay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Well that will be nice, but forget me now...summat else has cropped up as usual so will be a bit busy...:):):)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
sorry i am running the TILT from at&t.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Dis you try... to reset the 'zoom' function as it looks like it gets lost during the update. So goto > View > Zoom . Select 'Best Fit'. Just defining it again has helped ppl bring the vdeo back we were told.

??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
sorry all it says....mpeg-4 not supported.

click play again and only audio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mack5305:
See my response on Page 10.

I used Divx Converter 6, set on Mobile and sized for 320x240 in the Modify section. I got ZERO framerate errors (at 23.x speed, not 29.x) with their new player.

Fwiw, I also ran it through MPEG4 Direct Maker and made it both an MPG as well as an MP4 file. Both played in the Coreplayer Qtv version with ZERO framerate errors.

I believe some of the codecs people are using are a possible part of the problem, too fast a frame speed, as well as too large a size for the 320x240 screen.

My tests at 640 size instead of 320 for the Tilt screen produced errors as high as 800 for a very small file (1:47 minutes). Ripping down to 320x240 produced far fewer errors, some as low as Zero.

Mack
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
You bet we are and proud of it! Include the Operators/Providers in the group too. How do you suppose beta ROMs always seem to "drop into the hands" of ROM cookers here? ;)

XDA Developers provide a valuable free service to anyone who needs us. In return, some of the best damn software ever available for your phone becomes available here. Now suck it up and help these guys! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chezzorilla:
Where can I get my upgrade?

I bought my Coreplayer 2 weeks ago online. I have version 1.1. Where (how) can I ugrade to the latest version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chezzorilla:
Upgrade

Sorry, found it and tried it already.. It is definitely less shaky as I am watching a QT clip with many cuts.. LOOKS GREAT!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] agrif78:
Can someone please answer this question I posted earlier in this thread:

When playing video in 320x240, does this latest coreplayer remove pixellation often evident in tcpmp? Is pixellation completely gone in background or dark scenes or when the camera pans?

I encode usually video bitrate at 500 - 750 kp/s with divx converter so the pixellation is not a result of low bitrate. I have tried lower bitrate too (300-500) but pixellation remains.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
nevermind i got it working. it was my mistake, i got confused.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VidMan:
Quick question

Can anyone check in their \Windows folder if QTV.dll is now present as a result of installing this program? I ask this because after digging through the registry, I found that it was one of the files that was referenced in the registry, but not actually present on the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nick Collision:
I looked, and it is on my device. Running Coreplayer 1.1.3 Qtv Edition.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
You took the words right out of my mouth Sleuth!

From my vantage point, there is so much information, so many applications, roms, how to's, tips, tricks etc available here and its free! Of course I contribute to the site, to the developers because i value it, but no one makes us:)

Getting the kind of information that developers ask for (like beta_boy and others) only serves to make their applications better, and in turn can only make our experiences with our devices better!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nicholasendean:
Super Dooper

Just bought the new version of Coreplayer. Absolutely fantastic. No bugs whatsoever!!! Guess I am lucky? Been watching Star Wars (Original version 25fps 855mb size) from card along with some mp3 tracks and legit you tube clips converted to avi from flv of Ms.Tate (Welcome to Billys Burger Bar...my name is Loren...:).lol!!!).

Perfection is here. I can put up with this for the life of my Kaiser no problem. Worth EVERY penny. The image clarity and audio / video sync is excellent.

10/10

Thanks

Nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Thx for kind words.... we will continue to work on the QTv stuff as we go. It seems the current bug maybe related to a settings issue... so in 1.2 which is just a lil over 3 weeks away we will now feature our first of 2 advanced streaming packages... this first one will support RTP/RTSP as well as UPNP... and the next streaming package in a later 1.2.x release will add support for progressive downloading and streaming via HTTP tunneling.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gnollo:
Youtube playback

No that I use CorePlayer, will I be able to play Youtube on the Kaiser?

I tried installing the flashplayer cab, but that is not working, I guess because it has been tailored to a different player.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
Verdict on CP 1.1.3

I went through some in-depth testing this weekend while using 1.1 first and then 1.1.3.

On Overall perormance, 1.1.3 gained an average of +50% improvement on all dimensions, using QTV.

All files in 640 x 480 did improve around 20% though were still not fluent (OK, I know this resolution is pretty high, though I wanted to see how far 1.3 brings us)

When not using QTV, raw, etc, strange enough, results were less than V1.1

However, the biggest difference for me is the fact that my testfiles all lag in WMP and play good - untill super with V1.3 QTV.

when playing a benchmark file on 1.3 and switching between landscape and portrait, I can not see any improvement.

the dll exchanges refered in the other thread did not resulted in higher scores.

So far, so good. waiting for V1.2 now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] frenkck:
The new coreplayer is absolutely amazing, it played about 98% of all the frames at a normal movie. Before it was about 30%, wow! Now the TyTN2 is an absolute multimedia device with this piece of software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Ziggy95:
Simply perfect

Ziggy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Starting with 1.2 we will not support YouTube via http://m.youtube.com also in a later 1.2.x release we have added the entire UI for M.YouTube into CoreTheque Media Library. It will look similar to how the iPhone looks using the UI for the Google gdata parser, which we have added support for in 1.2 as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Let me head off the question before its even asked....

Do we support Flash video? YES we do support the Flash container... HOWEVER it is not released into our consumer version of the CorePlayer Platform and is only available to our OEM customers who have the right to use the Flash container (not a Flash license).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Alemaker:
beta_boy,

Is there any basic instruction/help/support documentation available for us newb Core Player ppl?

Don't know how to set up Core Player very well.

Sorry to ask, but it seems alot of this stuff is way over my head, just would like simple instructions.

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jackleung:
In what condition, Qtv will perform better?

I did some benchmark w/ 1.1.3 (qtv mode) compare w/ TCPMP 0.71

Menneisyys' default.mp4 (2.12mb, AVC aka H.264, FFmpeg AVC, 640 x 272, frame rate 25)

CorePlayer 1.1.3 (qtv video) : 44.34%

TCPMP (raw buffer on tytn ii) : 18.84

CorePlayer 1.1.3 (Intel dd on Asus P525): 79.06%

My own divx avi (16mb, Mpeg-4 video, CoreASP, 640 x360, frame rate 23.976)

CorePlayer 1.1.3 (qtv video) : 103%

TCPMP (raw buffer on tytn ii) : 108%

CorePlayer 1.1.3 (Intel dd on Asus P525): 164.13%

I am not sure why 1.1.3 on qtv perform worse than TCPMP on raw buffer w/ my avi. It seem the performance gain only happen under some conditions, Beta_boy, can you give more insight on that?

P.S. The benchmark w/ Asus P525 shows Tytn II still far behind in whatever condition ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
I am anxious to try the new version and so far only have TCPMP.

Is there a benefit to keeping TCPMP, getting the flash plugin for TCPMP and then purchasing the new Core player?

or

Is it better to uninstall TCPMP and just get the new Core?

I read a bunch of threads over the past 2 days and now I am more confused than I was before I started reading :)

Thanks!

I have an HTC TyTN II w/ stock htc rom and radio, apps and stuff are in my signature.

ROM version 1.81.707.0 WWE

ROM Date: 9/5/07

Radio: 1.27.12.11

Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
I sent you a PM so you can provide with the file and we could investigate. THanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jackleung:
Uploaded. Thanks for looking into it.

Mrmega,

I think TCPMP is the only available solution for flash right now. Therefore, I will keep both in my Tytn.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbritten:
is there any reason that I can not get any streaming media to work. I use ORB on my home PC and with tcpmp tv and recorded show play just fine, but when I try to use this version of coreplayer (only version I've ever used) it just locks up the program, never showing any video or sound.

any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
We only support standard HTTP streaming at this time... iirc ORB does MMS redirects which we don't support in this version but will in 1.2.

As stated before 1.2 brings out the big guns with our first of two advanced streaming packages.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jatin.ahuja:
WMV Support?

I thought Core Player supported WMV playback. When I try to play a WMV file, it says that it is not supported...am I doing something wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Try this and lt us all know if it fixes the issue....

goto > View > Zoom . Select 'Best Fit'. Now goto file > exit... then start the player again and trying playing the video you had the issue with.. pl post the results. Its either that or you are playing a video other then WMV9 which is the only WM that we support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] deviusdragger:
Well uninstalled and then reinstalled the player and now its working good. very nice program. thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eska007:
@Betaboy

I wish i had known before the solution to my laggy streaming playback.

If i tried to play a streaming file with a fairly high bitrate it was verrry laggy untill i set the everything at 0 on the buffering page. Plays almost perfect now. but the top box on the buffering page always sets back to 256. Is there maybe some more room for improvement, so you can choose "no buffering at all" or something ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] princeasi:
That's funny because I was able to stream video files from orb a couples times with this ver. of coreplayer, but it was a hit and miss deal! I keep trying but it will not stream anymore. Hopefully this feature will fully be availabe soon! Good job with the player by the way!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
Thanks you for the file :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jatin.ahuja:
I tried doing that and the file worked, except it still lags when playing though. The frames move for a bit, and then it seems like its buffering and starts playing again..hmm :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gianoit:
different preferences

if you set video quality to medium the video (avi) 640x352 is still very good and it is possible to see the films with excellent fluidity (also benchmark is over 100)

i think that this core player is not the end solution but a nice improvement

also with tcmp if you change video setting (must have patience) you can reach a satisfyng quality

if Htc is reading this forum i think they must know that in italy a tytn II cost about 700€ and for this price they can move the ass and develop good drivers

by

giano
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
jackleung, we get 113% qtv and 105% raw frame buffer. qtv does fallback to raw framebuffer when it can not allocate continous physical memory, so maybe you could try to turn off/on the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] -haze-:
Hmm...

I tried the same file and I get:

"Player: Video codec (MPEG-4 Video) not supported by the player!"

Are there any other settings you're tweaking? I tried it in QTV, GDI, and DD and I get the same message every time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Looks like its the zoom bug... goto > View > Zoom . Select 'Best Fit'. Now goto file > exit... then start the player again and trying playing the video you had the issue with. It should work now.