yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] metropical:
interesting thread ......... I think.

My M7 (that I bought in mid '13) is still my b.u. phone. You want 5h1tty support, buy an LG. Mine took 4 round trips in total to get it fixed over the course of 3 years of ownership. In contrast, my M7 had the camera issue back when. 10 days, RT. Done. Last update, dunno, a year ago? I'd still use it.

Security updates on a regular basis.? Perhaps if you're CIA it's something to worry about, or a Syrian rebel. Otherwise, I take stable over "security" update any day.

And how do you know what you got OTA has any update? Could be a blank slate. You think any ecorp has a conscience these days?

While it's unfortunately that $$$ has managed to push HTC off the front line, I looking at buying a 2nd hand U11 to replace my aggravatingly slow (although finally running at it's best) LG G4.

Then there's this, the Goog used LG to make the Pixel 2 XL, but HTC made the Pixel 2. Seems from what I read, the P2 is the more reliable.

As others have said, one is free to choose from a variety of manufacturers of mobile devices.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nickluck:
Good that you finally googled it instead of insisting on "on demand manufacturer". You should Google things before writing about them.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Leaving those wanting to be i****s, living lives as an i****, let's have a look at updates again.

HTC U11 SEA got its update, including

- June 1st Security Patches

- System enhancements

EMEA, and all others that are still missing, are getting near as well I guess. Will be around ~300MB for all variants I'd guess.

Source: https://twitter.com/papa_apa/status/1032576118946058240?s=19
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] caxio:
before and after my htc u11 cid 060 , the question is this ota is the same for 2.42400.3 other cid 060 branch
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
I think you may have mistaken the captures. The first shows 2.42.400.7 and the second one 2.42.400.6

Maybe the update has failed in your phone? Root, unlocked, open bootloader...?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] caxio:
before 06 and after 07
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
Embarrassing...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
My fault, mi dispiace.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] [Fenix]:
Same on my U11 ;)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] desean:
HTC U11 DUGL SEA 2.42.400.6 to 2.42.400.7 OTA update link

OTA_OCEAN_DUGL_O80_SENSE90GP_MR_HTC_India_SEA_2.42.400.7-2.42.400.6_release_527222j4o2h27u1clcsbfg.zip
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ziand:
OTA only arrives according to CIDs. Here is a history for today:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JackalJackalJackal:
My Galaxy S7 has a security update on August 1, 2018. This is a 2 year old phone.

My HTC U11 is November 2017. It does not matter, 9 months without security update and everything is fine.

It does not matter, it is to cry!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
Wait. 622 and 059 have received three updates!? Which bugs had they and the rest no??
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ziand:
I need more info what you told about. Please specify full a list of bugs to tell you..
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
I mean that after nougat to Oreo update, those Cid's have received two updates before this last.

In Europe we received the nougat to Oreo update and that is all.

I was talking about if those two "extra" updates were due to bugs in specifically those regions (carriers services or whatever) or just maintenance.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ziand:
I tell you a secret.. from beginning of last year here is a history of updates: 11 - Taiwan; 9 - Hong Kong; 8 - USA; 7 - India; ... 4 - WWE, EMEA,...

Those updates are special and for those regions.

But I use Taiwan in Europe - works always fine here. With Taiwan in my signature I have here always first and last update which also always works fine and for my region too. Sorry, unfortunately I have no idea what you wait.. I think you need to wait EMEA updated of your CID to compare differences.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
No, no. I am not waiting something.

It was just curiosity about the differences between regions and updates.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] roydok:
I just recieved today an OTA update upgrading my HTC U11 from version 2.42.400.6 to 2.42.400.7 which contain the Android Security Patch Level June 1, 2018.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
And yet our HTC phones have been completely safe. Nothing to report here.

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It doesn't matter. It would suit everyone better if we had a thread to air out all your beef with HTC. You might not got much attention there but let's see if you do. We can just let you all get it all out there. And we won't dispute anything you say.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] x_d_n:
It's a bit odd to claim our phones are safe when they're open to 10 months worth of vulnerabilities. The risk of one of these being exploited is higher on our phones than on most of the competition. This is a fact whether you choose to care about it or not.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
I'm not gonna get into this drama anymore but at least show proof of these security threats and breaches due to lack of security updates. I can use my HTC One M8 or my Galaxy Nexus for that matter and not have to worry about security breaches. Show me.

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We shouldn't have to buy a phone every one or two years. There are people who still use old phones and they are just fine. Wow, what a major expense if we had to buy new phones just because security updates stop after two years. Things need to change especially the fear mongering.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
This must be a joke ... A good one.

If you use any of the tools launched by the security researchers to reproduce the exploits (krack, spectre...) you will see the u11's vulnerabilities.

Any enterprise will not allow you to enroll the u11 to its mdm's services because the old patch.

But if you use your phone with a minimum of care, you will be reasonable safe.

What is "a minimum of care"? Not connect to public wifi's (hotels, airports, restaurants...); not install apk's from webs/forums not verified; not open suspicious mails; you are not a potential victim due to the information you have (jajaja)....

In fact, with any phone you can be or feel safe taking those preventions... But what happen when you, by mistake or because you have to, break any of those "security rules"? Well, if you have an outdated system or security patch you can be exposed to any exploit.

This is why the security and the the updates are important. Because you cannot be analysing what you do with your phone each hour of each day.

You cannot be really serious when you say that a device with a nine months old security patch is safe... And what you said about a phone with three years is just a no sense.

And we do not have to show you something. If you want to believe well, if not then is your problem.

For me this discussion ends here.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Andreasworks:
Excuse me what cid do you have? Europe, asia? Thank you
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Using my U11 on Nevember 1st Patch Level as BYoD in my companies MDM. Successfully completed all security and PEN-Tests. So no worry for me, even though others here trying to tell me it's different [MENTION=3795321]LibertyMonger[/MENTION], so let all others believe what they want to. No one read up on the Google Security Bulletin anyway before they bash on the update policy. Glad you're around and don't fall for the mock discussion, that others fall for.

And as long as my company continues to use Windows on its desktops and laptops, I know that my UNIX-based smartphone is still a big step ahead of IT infrastructure when it comes to security.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] android_patrizian:
In my company (> 3000 employees) since last month HTC is excluded from the list of models we can choose company smartphones from. And the bring your own device policies of many friends companies say that the latest security update must not be older than three months. Therefore HTC looses/lost the pros. And who would buy a (nother) HTC with his own money in the given situation? Apart from some people who consider more than 250 unpatched security vulnerabilities as safe.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
I'm glad I have buddy's in here and I'm not the only fanboy. So few try to insinuate they are smarter than us with our own device. And hate it that we aren't as smart as them.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hristovvilyo:
Come on man, Your philosophy is different in different topics and posts:

And in this post: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77459477&postcount=65903

:good:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
In my company, we send a warning to the user when the device reachs 90 days without security updates. If 120 days are reached, that device is rolled out of our system and we give the option to the user of use one of our corporative devices.

Your company is quite rare..

But yes, let others believe what they want...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] N-01G:
I’m not very familiar with HTC smartphone.

My u11(cid htc_060) stuck on 2.42.400.3, December 2017 security patch even though some people got 2.42.400.7 update with June security patch.

Does anyone tell me why?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] gokhanknc1:
Dear htc u11 european users! It seems that the last update you can get is Android p :p ? [MENTION=494185]LlabTooFeR[/MENTION] adlı kişinin Tweetine göz at: https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1034478637427449856?s=09
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hristovvilyo:
HTC U11 EU June security patch coming soon, arrive soon or whatever soon in January 2019! Android P will be start to development soon midle of 2019, mayabe we receive update soon midle of 2020. This information will be approved soon for European users of HTC U11 only!

Next 10 posts, after my post, is reserved for heavy HTC fanboys and HTC lawyers :laugh: Enjoy!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JochenP:
Many thanks for your helpful post

Sent from HTC U11
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
I cannot understand to htc. Which is their problem with Europe?

The htc10's nougat update had to be delayed due to problems in Holland and Germany (I think UK too).

The u11's Oreo update the same. It had to be delayed due to problems/bugs.

And now, the only update that they are launching this year again delayed... Unbelievable... Seven months to deploy an update and at the last minute they "find" bugs...

Which are those bugs that only affect to Europe in every single update?? Is normal to be angry as customer, is like htc were kidding us.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Not Europe. It's an EMEA Version. Learn what that means. How many countries and how many carrier specific stuff has to go into it.

Android no not last minute bugs. They had four release candidates since they are working on the update, and always found bugs and had to delay it further.

Last: look at Pie and what a big feast it is. Has been the same with Oreo, and the OEM had to crush the bugs or deliver an updated loaded with bugs. So choose you poison.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
For carriers they have specific firmwares; orange France, for example, is not the same firmware as unbranded devices (France is x.x.80.x and unbranded x.x.401.x).

Four or fourty candidates, nevermind. Seven months (the last update in Europe was in January) is more than enought time to debug one update.

I thought this was a forum to speak openly, but looks like you can only participate to say good things about htc...

Lesson learned.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] gokhanknc1:
Do not look at them! No one but a few fans here is not satisfied with htc's software policy! They are happy in every circumstance! They are voluntary lawyers. Maybe they get paid; who knows... :confused:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Just as you say bad things we say good things. Round and round we go...

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So we know how you think, just like the media portrays, if we do not think like you, we must be paid trolls! LMAO
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] gokhanknc1:
Someone is still drunk and attacking my messages. Stay away from me and my messages!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Well some still don't get it, that people not buying from carrier, like me, cause they want an unbloated software, also want the carrier specific features to work, which is why HTC has to include them into the EMEA base - and take care they don't interfere with each other. In addition more and more carriers are selling devices running EMEA firmware, instead of a carrier specific one. All carriers in Germany meanwhile do so, and other countries do as well. But some will still not get this very point ....
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hristovvilyo:
Today we play the game "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?".

The question for one million dolars is:

How many time is need of HTC to debug one update for U11 EMEA?

Hint one: Seven months (the last update in Europe was in January), or more!

Hint two: Coming soon is not real answer, because this is a brand new slogan of HTC!

Hint three: All secret HTC agents (something like secrete CIA agents, but more secret, special and scary), is invited to play with complex and mystical explanations, rumors, mockeries, fake informations and news!

Let`s play!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
All these carriers that refused to sell the U11 you mean?

HTC don't owe them **** and 9 months of security updates hardly require a complete revamp of a few xml files.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
No one but a few fans you say? You are attacking and speculating. Don't tell me I can't respond. There is nothing wrong with the U11 and it will get updated to Pie quicker than most other phones. Just as HTC has always done.

There are plenty more of us who are satisfied with the U11, it's only the disgruntled who are the loudest.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
LlabTooFeR Twitter Update

LlabTooFeR's most recent Twitter post gives inside to the software number of the new EMEA update. According to the screenshots it will be 2.33.401.19:

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1035453543866671104?s=19
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ianmufc:
You sound as if you work for HTC with the BS you come out with.

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You sound as if you work for HTC with the BS you come out with.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
I do. I'm a paid troll. It's so weird to defend a brand in it's own forums. This is how society works now, if I don't agree with the portrayed popular opinion then the opposition gets angry. I don't mind if you get angry. But it does seem your beef is with HTC. So clog their email and threads with hate.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] jhill110:
Go back to the kiddie table. If you can't be helpful... Just don't be at all... junior.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
There are a lot of nice, silent, good HTC supporters in these threads that will not talk back to the haters. We are obviously a smaller community now. Yeah, I speak out a lot and have a lot to say. But I'm proud to say it and there are plenty who agree with me. They just don't need to say it like I do.

So you can say what you need to say and I can say what I need to say. No one should get mad.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] xunholyx:
Dude.

Almost anyone with any complaint states the reason of their complaint and says otherwise they like HTC. Most will also list the things they like about HTC. You go after them and call them haters. This has been going on for some time now.

Now you are going off with this post. The "haters" you are referencing here aren't hating on HTC, they are hating on you. Calm down and stop with the warrior attitude.

I'm just trying to give you some advice. I'm not hating at all here. Stop with the confrontational posts. It's getting old.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mikee4fun:
So my HTC U11 USB port stopped connecting to the computer and it would not charge. Then I met [MENTION=3795321]LibertyMonger[/MENTION]. With my frustration of his fanboyism I through my HTC U11 into my SPA to test if the phone was water resistant to 3 meters as it is indicated. That was a lie! I pulled the phone out after 30 seconds and the digitizer broke. However the USB port started working again. Fast forward a month later the digitizer started working but the ambient light sensor has failed and so has [MENTION=3795321]LibertyMonger[/MENTION] because he claims HTC phones have zero flaws and it's all end user issues. FLMITT.

Cheers!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] skinbis:
Man! Thank you for this post! Unfortunately he'd come and attack you soon
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
I check here from time to time to see if an update is out for UK unlocked U11 and all I see is fanboys attacking anyone that isn't satisfied with the way HTC handles updates... This thread was created to discuss updates around HTC U11 and that's what people are doing... Can we put an end to this hater bull**** if you don't have anything to discuss around Updates don't post here

Also can a mod please clean the thread.. :good:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ziand:
Oreo RUU 2.42.400.3 for India

htc_ocndugl, OCEAN_DUGL (Dual SIM), CIDs: HTC__059 / HTC__060 / HTC__622 | MID: 2PZC30000

2PZCIMG_OCEAN_DUGL_O80_SENSE90GP_MR_HTC_India_SEA_2.42.400.3_Radio_8998-002772-1712011153_release_520358_signed_2_4.zip
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] p50kombi:
In other news... Firmware zip for 401.19 wwe is out in maximus thread
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ianmufc:
Who's talking to you sh.t for brains?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
Only for s-off.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JackalJackalJackal:
Hello people. Can you please provide me with verified information about whether the security update will be 2018 or will it be Android 9 ? Will Android 9 be ? I do not follow so much discussion, so I ask here ? Thank you for answer.

I am sorry for my bad English ...

Odesláno z mého HTC U11 pomocí Tapatalk
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] eminc:
June 1 security patch is the latest update for now. And it is also the last update for the u11 on Android Oreo. We will get the Android 9 update but date is not confirmed yet. And lastly, 9 will be the last ever update for the u11 if I am not mistaken.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JackalJackalJackal:
Thank you so much. One more question, when will June 1 be a security patch for Europe ?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Black-FR:
At least the part about Germany is wrong.

E.g. Vodafone still sells branded devices, with their Vodafone specific software and firmware and not branding free ones.

And I bought the branding free 11, to get updates faster and not to wait on any carrier s***.

I don't care, if some carrier specific feature isn't correctly working on the dual SIM.

E.g. Volte and WiFi calling wasn't even included at the beginning...

If I wanted to wait ages for an update, then I would have bought the device from Vodafone, for much less money then what I now have paid for it...

And if HTC has to include all carrier features, then they have to do it for the single sim as this was sold by the carrier's.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Wait my U11 is from Vodafone and came with 401 EMEA Software, right out of the box. Did they change that one after the first and initial batch!? It's new to me and I did write the previous, cause I saw a U11 from o2 as well running 401. So that's quite a surprise for me.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Black-FR:
Yes, they sell branded devices, like they always did.

You find e.g enough information about it, on android-hilfe.de

If you got a 401 device from Vodafone, then you had been lucky...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
It's amazing how you would get thanks for throwing your phone into water and blaming it on me lmao.

"HTC U11 is water and dust resistant and has an IP67 rating as defined in the International Standard IEC 60529. With the nano SIM/microSD slot covered and closed tightly, this phone is water resistant if it is briefly submerged by accident in fresh water less than 1 meter deep and no longer than 30 minutes at room temperature."

Cheers!

Although this post proves my point, Don't worry, this is my last post defending HTC.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] haasgo:
How has an update thread become a battleground of complainers and defendants? Dudes, just talk about updates, eventhough they do not come or come delayed. Open a rant thread about HTC lack of competence and keep this one here clean of your rants and other off topic stuff, please.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sergeymetallic:
Looks like it's just around the corner https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1035453543866671104
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Thanks for this heads-up. Didn't expect them to sell EMEA first, and switch to a branded version later on.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Even the LTE only Exalt had issues. I bought one for my dad and it would stop making or receiving calls. It would ring once and go straight to voicemail and never ring on my dad's side. I got Verizon to fix it once over the phone then a day later it started happening again. The U11 actually worked better than the LTE only Exalt. I returned the Exalt.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Black-FR:
It's so ridiculous, how HTC cares about their "Flagship devices" and the wwe market.

The U11 is still on November 2017 security patch, while my work device, a Samsung A5 2017, is already on August patch, since a couple of days.

And the next wwe update will have June patch? (At least the versions which are available as custom ROM got it)

Just disappointing, how HTC cares about this kind of things...

The Samsung was never a flagship, but has a much better support in case of security updates.

No wonder, that no company will ever use a HTC, if they care just a little bit about security...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JackalJackalJackal:
I agree. My Galaxy S7 has a security update from 1, August 2018 ! HTC has gone badly ! Why buy another HTC when support is really bad. We're crying here, but what else is left to us.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nnortel37:
The U11 is my first HTC, but certainly the last too.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sasa.kljucaric@yahoo.de:
It's my last HTC device. The hardware is really good the software support is so bad. No updates no security patches. Nothing.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] eminc:
Guys, enough already. This is not a problem feedback thread or not an official htc thread. Just write here if you have valuable information about some update. So, stop crying here. Nothing will change
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pantumaca:
Taiwan and USA already got the update (July and August); nobody said something about how is going this new update (battery, bugs, impressions...).

There is no official information about the europe's update delay.

If you ask to HTC (Twitter, Facebook or email), the answer is silence. Does exist any official thread?

And now we cannot speak here either...

This thread is for talk about updates, EVERYTHING regarding updates. At least, that was what I thought.