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[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayVerhofstadt:
[MENTION=3839575]mikeioannina[/MENTION] Mike, terrible how your screen went to ****. Didn't even know there's snow and/ice in Greece. ;)

I don't want this project to die, so I have thrown another 20 Euros over the fence onto your PayPal. Transaction ID ending on 314M.

Now if these moaning bastards that always complain about ****ty development will do the same, then I am sure A shiny new P2 will be in Greece once soon again. Put your money where your mouth is. And I also look at you, Wonder Wicked Witch, you haven't really added much to the development either, except for being a nuisance. Grow up and show what you're worth.

Mike, please let me know who else helps with development. That can be in a PM. I will donate to these as well when LineageOS is finally official for this device.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Valberu:
I'm pretty sure most of the "silent majority" here is more interested by the concept of solid and functional alternative development for this phone, than intensive updates and new functionalities.

I'll keep this phone until he dies, and I'm following this thread since the beginning, was part of firsts donations, and I don't care waiting other few months, even for a stable cyanogenmod 12.1 :laugh:

Hope Mike will find another P2 screen soon ! Thanks for all the good work done yet ! :highfive:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
[MENTION=3839575]mikeioannina[/MENTION], I know it isn't much but I've sent something on your way (PayPal Transaction ID ends in 1980X). I hope you don't lose motivation for development on our device. We're looking forward to your contributions.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] The WiTcH Er:
If someone is interested in getting new device Go and Get it, don't mess and make the main developers get away from P2 development

Finally [MENTION=6257538]FireLord[/MENTION] LOS rom thread is closed, Because of complaining and comparing, why saying half-baked?

Most of the developers built rom based on Firelord los. This is not enough?

If you are saying this is half baked - why don't you bake it fully yourself?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] iammp2:
Can't stop laughing
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Subham:
Umm what i see is the drama has again started off for money! MIKE got money and bought a p2 and did nothing with it for it for over a year until firelord contributed. Anyway i don't want to create any misunderstandings but this thread's main topic was to donate to mike for his p2 and he got it. He is busy with his real life as he said earlier in previous posts but he still gives time headsup for that but the p2 has been falling off and on from his hand and it has finally broken. He is away from getting 2 issues solved for kuntao to come back in nightlies. That's a good thing for some people who just want the tag of "official LOS". I don't want to stay anything about MIKE or start any fight but the thread title itself says "The future of P2-Development and the development is going on. Oreo 8.1.0 is already up for p2 and bugs are being fixed. I don't know why this thread is still up. Mike suddenly posts about his broken phone and he wants donation (if someone wants to give they can) but he told that atleast that he cannot repair it for now. So leave it. He will fix it in future. Celoxocis and highwaystar both are there to make kuntao come up to nightlies. Mike has done great job but it doesn't mean he needs donation all the time. XDA is not for asking / getting money. [MENTION=1662773]mods[/MENTION] please look out to this thread. It has been long monetary transactions are taking place. If anything i told wrong then sorry mike and celoxocis.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Siva Mk:
Been using ROMs based on Firelords tree since forever. Is it just me of did the meaning of "half baked" change recently??

Asking for donations is not wrong. But for each and everything IMHO is not very appreciative. Ok the phone fell and the screen broke. It is quite fortunate ik, however, some part of the blame is on you for not being careful. Even with all the donations up until now, there is nothing new... Except for some minor fixes like LEDs (I'm pretty sure nobody donated an entire phone to fix damn LEDs)

Oh and please don't bull**** with Mike is busy blah blah. I know he's busy. But the fact that the device he is working on is donated by users counting on him, he should atleast make this as one of his top priority.

Aman is a school boy even he has exams and his life. He gave us a proper tree. He didn't ask for donations he just came out of nowhere, gave us LOS and a tree for all, literally all the ROMs in this device thread.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] nazim7:
Exactly what I was thinking. I pity people who are paying money in this Mike's LOS scam. These so called developers are playing with people's hope for some solid development for their device and paying their hard earned money for it.

The poor people are not getting the point that somebody is manipulating their hope with asking money again and again.

Its been 1 year since the last donations and I haven't seen a single thread opened by him until now. The hope for that PERFECT build will never end, I assume. :eek:

PS: If it's in XDA rules that never ask for money for development, why are the mods not reading these posts asking for money.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
+ i don't see the point of mike posting here his last post said unsubscribing if anything comes up it will be in los thread why he is posting here now makes sense.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
I donated too and this is not good this news. I unfortunately can't donate again since i am a broke college guy. I have dropped my phone few times.. and it didn't break because i have an Azmer case on in which the glass has no contact whatsoever when it's dropped. If i were a dev.. I would guard the phone with my life. I'm haopy enough with Highwaystars build, if he can update the security patch to Jan. and forward i will be watching on where he had his roms posted. As far as XDA goes, i have no expectations. If anything happens...i'll move on to the Mi Mix. Good luck Firelord, etc.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] The WiTcH Er:
Just change we're looking forward into I'm looking forward. Don't judge others by the way you think. Not everyone is looking for his contribution. I'm not in here to fit your words I'm here to dominate. Haha??

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Future of Lenovo P2 will be Better when this thread get closed or cleaned up.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] swatchfb:
I am not a moderator but I am the OP: Stop the hate and leave this thread. Your behaviour is NOT welcome here.

There is a major interest to keep this thread alive. Just do not post if you are not.

To make it clear: No one is or was forced to donate to anyone. It is on a voluntary basis.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] xanthrax:
Hello guys !

I feel the urge to leave my message here before this thread would get out of hand.

The things are simple though , here is the Forum Rules as a whole.

I would focus my post here around this one

This thread`s topic is about the future of the development and not the future of a certain device so please do not derail and turn it to a donations collection thread.

I am not pointing to anyone, you`re free to donate to whoever you want but keep in mind that publicly mentioning it and preferentially donating isn`t a good thing and it may escalate, keep it on development and not on donating topic.

Kickstarter and crowdfunding threads are not allowed as per rule above though it is fine to show your gratitude by posting your donation.

We`re cool now !
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] swatchfb:
Thank you very much.

So besides discussing the future of P2-development, we are free to show our gratitude by posting our donations. Good thing!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] devianz:
I don't know why everyone is so interested in downplaying mike or the idea of a perfect LOS build. Why do you even care? Since you are happy with current builds, why post here. Why reply to Mike's message. Just keep using what you have, you are happy with it anyway. None you have made any donation so you have no right to question the developers or people who have donated.

Those who want to support mike or an official lineage os can donate, its up to them. Leave them alone, it's not bothering you anyway. They believe in mike because he is a perfectionist and head developer of lineage os. Being head developer of something that stands in the forefront of android custom rom development is no joke. Show some respect, you may believe he has done zero development for P2. We have LineageOS roms because of people like him. It doesn't matter if he has contributed to a particular device or not. His contribution is universal.

People who do not contribute to development please don't undermine any developer. Please support them however small there contribution is. Remember they don't own you anything and still work for you during their leasure time.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikeioannina:
I never post on xda anymore because it has become a ****show of drama and disrespect. I don't create threads with half baked work anymore (because in the past this always ended up with users spamming me with ETA requests of when the bugs are going to be fixed), only release my work when it's done, as all official LineageOS devices. My sources are always on gerrit (those who want to check "the future of LineageOS on P2" please keep an eye on gerrit), my only release will be official nightlies and I will probably not create a thread here because of the whole attitude. I feel most P2 users just want to rage, split developers in two sides and start flame wars, I feel much worse than any other device I maintained even though I like this device most than any older device I owned. I won't explain my personal financial and psychological situation every time, those who care know about it. Thanks to everyone that already donated 80 euros since yesterday, I will get the phone fixed much sooner than I thought. This is my *real* last post in this thread now. Keeping my sanity and not visiting P2 section for a while.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
Except delay and mis communication, there is nothing wrong in p2 development and with people here. Only Middle man who is trying to run their show resulting this. When future point is clear on development, this thread has no purpose... should be closed or there should be no "middle show men".
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
You seriously shouldn't be bothering at this point to always have to explain yourself because, no matter what, there are people who always will stir the pot in the look for drama. All of us (at least the honest ones) know what it means to constantly maintain high standards in one's work and to always strive for perfection. I just hope you will be able to quickly get the funds for repairing/replacing your P2. Good luck.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] swatchfb:
I read it with a laughing eye and a weeping eye.

Amazing news on the one hand and shame for parts of the community on the other.

It does not matter but I totally understand and support your decision.

I will continue my little support to you and LOS in the future.

Thank you and wish you all the best!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] devianz:
Small contribution from my part (PayPal txn id 7154P).
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
A small contribution to [MENTION=6257538]FireLord[/MENTION] for stable N sources. Also for Oreo bring up. Transection id ending in 628. Thanks again.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] PL15:
Small contribution from me to [MENTION=6257538]FireLord[/MENTION] Txn id ending wid 835. Hope we will get rock solid and full baked Oreo wid cream soon. Good luck for your exams.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] celoxocis:
i think we have reached a point in this thread where it should be closed.

so I recommend closing this thread where all started.

and the discussion be split in two threads that preferably will be opened by actual developers or at least those that contributed to the current lineageOS base.

I suggest two threads.

A: firelords unofficial builds and it's future of development

B: mike's official builds and it's future of development

I do see that countless Indian users are following and backing up firelord. not just because he is their fellow country man but he has brought up a first usable base (unlike previous attempts from other developers).

but those followers seem to miss the point that a lot of cleanup and fixes and code (audio HAL, Camera HAL) has come from mike and highwaystar.

and don't forget. the Indian users may be the biggest user base on the P2. but none of the first donators last year has been one of them. they have all been European users even though the P2 was widely available in India for months already. so be thankful to those users. and those users want Official solid LineageOS.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] xanthrax:
I for one wouldn`t close it , there is no rule to stop a development discussion unless it derails and turns into a hatred thread.

If the OP wants to close it well , it can be done

I strongly encourage the users to constructively contribute and not to flame each other, it`s a simple piece of hardware after all

Here I disagree and recommend to not compare, judge and split the users , no one knows and shouldn`t care who donates to whom / supports the most , this is at the developer`s discretion to silently conclude, I feel a bad smell of racial remarks ... let`s keep it friendly
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
What do you think will stop them from commenting on either page ? Creating two threads won't change anything.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayVerhofstadt:
[MENTION=2494638]celoxocis[/MENTION] Well said, about the latter part. I noticed the same. You've got childish users that only seem to frustrate the future of the phones they paid for, and at the other hand serious users that try to be constructive or remain quiet. If I were one of the devs, I would have to ask XDA to give me a larger blacklist to put users on.

[MENTION=6257538]FireLord[/MENTION] has been important to the future of the P2. He gives users something to look out for, a start of what could be, hope if you will. Not to be underestimated.

Talking about underestimation, Highwaystar wisely stays away from interaction with users, but he does a good job on the background. Together with someone most immature users ignore, but essential for a stable future for this phone, someone who could have left development altogether if he didn't like his phone that much I guess, and that is Mike. Yes, the users were told September last year, and communication is where other devs just do better, but looking at Gerrit, these two dudes really do their best.

Then there is the reward for the user that adds least to any useful thread, who likes to show off with other user's work. Hell, even he didn't do anything on development, he got that far that users even ask and thank him for updates, is Wonder Wicked Witch.

Once again, if you, and this goes for all the users interested in LOS, look at Gerrit, then you will know who really to be grateful for.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] gamefreaksuraj:
now we all should dump this topic, and behave like nothing happened that way we all stay happy
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
Well said ... on point in everything.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] FireLord:
No need of it now.. I started los in hope that I'll get it to officials but we had Mike already for it. So I was okay with sharing whatever I had to speed up.. but we already gonna have los official so no need of my threads related to los now.. don't want duplication of similar thing done differently. I locked my los thread already.

They miss the point bcz they mostly don't look around on GitHub, Gerrit for codes. They just need stable thing. Which I have failed to provide so called 'half baked' ROMs

I have no answer why they start posting things against Mike or whosoever. I don't trigger them to back me up.

I do stuff for MY device and share it with others to enjoy too. Which I'll stop!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] FireLord:
+1 agreed
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] gamefreaksuraj:
and i also request everyone who is part on this thread to forget everything and let's stop irrespective of what any one has said before
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
Hence why i look forward to his build at the RU website or whoever takes over presently or at whatever time frame. The most stable version is just as fine, and will most likely stay with it for a long time. So ya, don't get me wrong, if it wasn't for the donations, the development wouldn't have taken this far. Kudos for any devs continuing the work in the future, and goodluck.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] swatchfb:
I also don't see the need for closing this thread at the moment - if the hate stops. And I think it stopped.

Even if I follow your argumentation [MENTION=2494638]celoxocis[/MENTION]: [MENTION=6257538]FireLord[/MENTION] says that he doesn't want to take part in the development anymore.

In fact [MENTION=3839575]mikeioannina[/MENTION] is already officially left and supported by [MENTION=7737930]highwaystar_ru[/MENTION], [MENTION=2494638]celoxocis[/MENTION], [MENTION=5795145]javelinanddart[/MENTION] to bring up the official LOS.

So this thread remains open for discussion on P2-development and I invite everyone from every nation showing respect for the developers and each other to participate.

I also invite all developers to come back if they want to. Providing tiny updates on development from time to time (without being asked for ETA) is a nice thing for those who show respect for the devs and their work.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] THM01:
Yeah, I guess I am one of the more "silent lurkers" here...and holy sh*t this thread got out of hand.

This whole situation reminds me of the controversy around star citizen - on the one hand you got people telling you "its a trap, its scam" and then there are a lot of people who are really interested in the work that has been put in already and are silently satisfied.

I am one of the latter.

I really enjoy using FireLords ROM and don't consider it "half-baked" - it's been my daily driver since 3 months now and it hasn't let me down a single time - hell, I had more problems with the "official" CM builds on my oneplus one :D

But, as it is always with social media - attention always attracts jealousy, hatred and there always seems to be this "but I want that now, why can't you just make that" mentality(which is bad enough on it's own, just give the devs time - I'm sure they have acknowledged the bug/missing feature and will fix it/implement it in time) - and I guess that's what all developers who actively communicate with the community have to deal with, for better or worse.

But boy does this shine a bad light on some people in this thread and this community - it seems the term "constructive criticism" is not available for them and they just go full-on rage mode - just a reminder, that stuff can really hurt people, you know.

But, and that's where my question comes into play: I have a technical question, maybe someone can answer it: Why are there only AOSP based Oreo ROMs and no LOS based ones ? It just seems a little strange to me, but then again I only know a little bit about coding and not so much about how ROM/Kernel sources interact.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
AicpOreo based on los has booted. I'm not interested in making a thread check my android file host. It doesn't necessarily mean I won't make a thread will decide and do whatever I like.

Edit:- screen shot https://photos.app.goo.gl/5YXK0BZWYoYtPZ7u1

Edit2:- link is taken down due to personal reasons
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] javelinanddart:
Just FYI: I'm not a kuntao dev. I don't even own a kuntao. I just got bored and wrote something that made the side switch report something usable, and mike finished up to toggle power saving mode.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] b50corei5:
Awesome, thanks for the great work
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * *

Let's keep the discussion here about the P2.

Not about each other, not about the devs, not about user's account.

Those who continue to insult, attack, post rude comments, or argue disrespectfully here will have their accounts reviewed regarding the violation.

Thanks for your cooperation.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] littlepandemonium:
How are the donations for Mike's replacement screen going? I know he'll probably be as far from this thread as possible but it'd be nice to know if he got it in the end. There's a lot of work on his gerrit and it'd be such a shame if he didn't achieve official LOS after being so close to it...

I also have another question: how bad would it be if he enabled P2's nightlies as they current stand? I know there are two bugs left but those can't be ironed later with updates?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevindiepenmaat:
Is there any update or what so ever?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikeioannina:
Ok here's some update. I got 120 euros so far thanks to all of you, I tried to find original screen replacement but I couldn't find a 100% guaranteed original replacement. Instead I started searching for a used P2, but all I found were around 200 euros, too expensive. So I am still searching for original replacement or a cheap used device. If someone from EU knows something about a used device around 150 euros let me know, as I said I couldn't find any good deal in Greece. If someone got an original screen replacement please tell me where you got it from.

Now about LineageOS, fingerprint gestures bug is also fixed so only the side switch bug is left. If we can't figure it out soon we will disable side switch and enable weeklies without it.

Also to clarify about my "half-baked" statement, I didn't want to call anyone's work half-baked, I just stated *my* reasons for not sharing *my* half-baked work.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] b50corei5:
Damn, that sucks. Thanks for trying to get a official lineage os up
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
Nice to know! Really glad to see everyone's work going to a good place. Can you share some shred of light on what's up with one key? I means it's working just fine for me.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] b50corei5:
After the phone is in power saving mode it keeps opening randomly when you close it
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cuvillier:
Hey there, are you looking for :

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/273018799197

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[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayVerhofstadt:
Mike, what about the bug that causes bootloops for Indian users? Fixed? If so, what was the cause (asking out of curiosity)?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] dineshpampati:
It's not happening with me . [emoji19]
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] CageotRoger:
Hello !

In France we find used P2a42 for approximately 160€ (negotiable).

If I had this money, I would have bought one to give it in greece... but I can't afford it :(

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[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cuvillier:
The website is local trading that means it's only used by French users like me. But the link of eBay given would be interesting too.