yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
You just contradicted yourself on your opinion lol. If i was from EU or some other place Xiaomi doesn't appeal to me because the navigation bar is not on the screen like most Xiaomi phones.. Though i would consider getting the Mi Mix or the Honor 8 Pro since it has Lineage now.. But like all up and coming phones... Development takes a while.

Since development is coming for the P2.. And custom Roms like AICP is pretty darn good to use with OTA. Personally it is up to him to decide.. And more battery size is always good...and It's what kind of chip-set that matters ... Also It doesn't matter whether if it Android 7.0, 7.1.2 or Android 9.. It is how the software is optimized for the battery and Ram management that's important and the style the phone comes last. Lastly... popularity doesn't have to be everything, be glad that that these phone brands give out the source code for people like the developers and senior members that do help give their input for the device to be successful like this device or any device that is getting attention...but thanks for your critique. :svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurav_k:
No Gorilla Glass on RN4. I have seen RN4 with bumper case and tempered screen guard fall from knee height and screen shatter to pieces.

Also, there are contradicting views and information regarding warranty void or not if bootloader is unlocked on redmi devices. Indian service centers treat warranty void it seems. Can't stand MiUI at all. So, if I go with RN4, will have to port to some custom rom right away.

Does the RN4 custom roms support VoLTE?

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I just checked that VoLTE is supported in Official Lineage OS for RN4.

I am just trying to understand what is the limitation in getting VoLTE for P2 in Lineage. Is it some source code which Redmi has shared and Lenovo has not?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikeioannina:
I never stated that VoLTE is impossible to work, I just asked not to ask about it. After ETA requests, VoLTE requests are the most annoying thing that happens these days all over the place.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayVerhofstadt:
Although I appreciate all the effort, and don't get me wrong, I personally don't care at all about VoLTE, but his (her?) question about what is needed from a manufacturer to be able to implement such features does interest me.

This question is not directed only towards Mike, anyone with knowledge may answer this, but it is a bit off topic.

Does a device manufacturer need to release blobs with drivers for a "free dev" to be able to implement a feature, or can yet released source code from other phones be used? For example, when Google releases a new Android patch or feature update, how can the devs from LineAge implement this update for all the phones that are officially supported? Does it need manual labor for each device individually, can it only be done after the device manufacturer releases drivers for that specific device, or is it an automated process that runs through all the devices' firmware once the first ever device-specific LineAge ROMs have been made? And what Mike is doing right now (not literally, I assume ;) ), will that effort be needed for every update like the recent s244 July patch update?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurav_k:
And the reason for surge in VoLTE requests is simply because the country with 2nd largest population in the world and fastest growing smartphone market, had a disruptive giant telecom provider called 'Jio' entry with free trial period of more than a year with unlimited data and voice calls and even after the trial period, some amazing plans and offers. And they are 4G+VoLTE only (They have an app for making calls on non VoLTE phones though but no native calling feature except VoLTE).

And this will get even more interesting as the largest telecom provider 'Airtel' is also moving VoLTE soon.

A non-VoLTE phone simply doesn't sell in India now :)

BTW, mine wasn't a request for VoLTE but just an attempt to understand the technical limitations in getting it to Lineage and future possibility of having it in Lineage :)

And, Thanks a lot for your work here Mike :good:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
Cleaned :)
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] senseijtitus:
My experience with P2 is extremely good. It's much better than other Chinese OEMs. The performance shows its self in the choice of hardware in the set.

Regarding bugs, there are no bugs in stock firmware or deodexed one that one can not live with. And update has been rolled out this month as well. Some remaining bugs have been taken care of as far as I can tell.

This is the only phone in this price range with some ch a good hw config and performance. Op5 has its share of issues if you search Google to check.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
It's just my opinion. The end of this discussion. No more on this. Will wait for updates and keep my P2 with me..:svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] senseijtitus:
I don't understand what is so bad about P2. It's been 4 months since I got this phone. Not even a single issue that might even remotely make me regret this purchase.

This phone had been the best purchase I had made for quiet some time now.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] celoxocis:
I don't understand why the whole entire page has been off-topic and has absolutely nothing to do with this thread!?!?

If this continues on, I will request a forum mod to close this thread!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Siva Mk:
Very true. Every time I open this thread to check for updates or news... It's about this damn thing! This thread should be cleaned from offtopic discussions.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
OFF topic ends.when there is nothing this happens...cool.:svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
I agree with you.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ApriliaM3:
Please refrain from further requests for donations, in any form, for any member.

This is NOT what XDA is for. It is NOT what this thread is for.

I hope I've made myself clear.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ApriliaM3:
This is a discussion thread and you are not the OP.

Members are free to broadly discuss anything to do with the P2 and its development.

Thanks.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] celoxocis:
I think you misunderstood. The thread was created to discuss the future development of P2 for LineageOS.

So the whole discussion is focused on that.

A lot of users such as myself have subscribed to this thread to follow any news/progress ever since we have actual progress for an official lineageOS for the P2.

Users started to discuss and post other unrelated things which do not belong into this thread.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ApriliaM3:
I haven't misunderstood anything.

The thread has been created in the Guides / News / Discussion forum and as such, is allowed plenty of leeway with the discussions.

As long as the posts are civil and broadly related to the forum it's posted in, there's no issue.

Mind you, THIS post is quite off-topic...
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] palbadi:
Also there are/were no such off-tropic discussions to close the thread.

Yes asking for ETA for ROM or features is against rules but asking about features or ROM is not against the rules in discussions thread at least. There were only few asks for ETA.

And ignore those posts if you do not like those.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayVerhofstadt:
I would suggest you open a new topic in the ROM development section titled "Official LineageOS Development and Dev News", where you can most certainly request posters to stick to that specific topic. Everybody happy, right?

This topic has been bent from a user question about the future of P2-development to a topic where only important official LineageOS updates can be shared, along with requests for new computers and phones to enable official LineageOS development. That was not what this topic was intended for, although I have to admit I get diarrhea from ETA requests just like you. Just remember, you'll also find newbies here not sticking to your plans for this topic.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ApriliaM3:
This new thread you suggest, should also be opened here, in the News and Discussion forum.

The Development forum is not for placeholder threads or discussions.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] celoxocis:
I will not be opening/creating such a thread especially not in this sub forum.

Because as ApriliaM3 stated "it allows plenty of leeway with the discussions".

We should all simply wait for mike (as he is the official maintainer) for the very moment when he thinks the ROM is good and stable enough to enter the official LOS roster and the release to the public. He will post it then appropriately in the ROM development subsection where proper rules are applied and enforced.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ErDeuri:
Yes, that will be the right thing to do. Let just this thread be open to all kind of discussion related to development of P2 then.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
Now I can say that discussion/asking about LED bug on other ROMs such as rr,aicp wasn't off topic
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
I've been saying that before to make a new thread, and since that is not going to happen. Then let the people talk here and also there will be new people too that are incoming mind you. Let the thread flow and let the conversation flow and try not to pay attention if the topic goes off topic. As long as people are talking... It's fine. That way people can just converse about things as the time passes until the day of.... So meanwhile... Learn, converse, and learn more.

Restricting the thread will only cause people to stress and you get stressed since you put the thread together in the first place.. And you know what... That is not worth stressing. If i were in your shoes... You should pay attention on your android craft, Etc.. Until the day Mike announces anything. That is just my opinion......... :good:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
I'm considering this to replace my Nexus 4.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] widewozzy:
Any progress yet ? ( The future of P2-development )
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonashatissues:
I can confirm progress has been made.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
Perfect! I'm counting on it, not that G something or other.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Javed ali:
Ok
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
I don't think you are qualified to say anything here. You just want to cause problems in which you have already. You are not a developer #1. You are not a Senior Member and you do not understand how development goes #2. You are not a Junior member, cause the majority of Junior members ask questions and they are humble at most for learning new things... And yet when someone puts you in your place... You just keep being invasive instead of being patient #3. My question is... Why are you here? If you are not happy... Then why don't you move on to another device instead of mocking the threads. :eek:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
Anyone know why...my sim1 works only in 4g mode....Jio 4g sim works in sim1 or sim2. But Airtel Sim working in sim2 only....I get error while scanning with Airtel in sim1 irrespective of Sim in other slot. I unlocked bootloader tried different roms, days ago...finally went back installed stock marshmallow by line by line flashing and later with OTA 109mb, then 1937mb S233 OTA, the finally upgraded to S244 latest...now I face that sim issue. Can anyone with knowledge tell me...what I missed during all this and why that odd half working sim error? How to fix?

Is Lenovo and Jio tied up to lock Sim1 slot for Jio 4g only?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
I may not be a developer, however I can troubleshoot and help out on whatever device besides the Lenovo P2 (Asus Zenfone Max, Huawei Mate 7, Huawei Mate 2, Nexus 7 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus) and any past devices I had for the past few years being on XDA.. And I can fix and replace Android device parts by hand except devices made out of metal alloy. Obviously you don't see or read all of my posts or even took your time to see any of them...so you have no idea who I am.... you just determine whatever you can muster up.

What do you do to contribute to XDA? What do you do to help other members? What do you do to learn new things? Do you research what is the difference between each CPU Governors? Do you know how to dismantle a phone to replace the Glass digitizer or any other parts in an Android device by learning from teardown instructions? Do you know how to manually set up Governor Frequencies and understand what they do and how to battery save or at least share what you learn to other members? Do you test out new custom Kernels and help out a Kernel Developer? Do you know how long development process takes from building a Kernel Source from scratch?

I think not for most of them. If I were you... You better start learning something and be patient towards the higher developers or basically just anybody because they are not going to listen to you every time you start an argument or start demanding anything because of whatever dislike you have towards them and their work. I don't have a short fuse like some members or dev have towards you... I am just putting you at your place. :eek:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Siva Mk:
[MENTION=7000415]Wmateria[/MENTION], dude just ignore him. He won't listen. Focus your time on something else rather than wasting it on arguing with this kid.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wmateria:
I know, it's just i am really bothered that anybody has put up with that. Over the many years I've been a member, people are not that obtuse with any one of higher or lower status here. I'll take your advice.. :svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] senseijtitus:
Buddy, you are also not qualified to judge the development initiatives taken up by senior developers. If you want to just spent your time arguing and criticizing, do it for a better cause. We all know how much time and effort it takes to build a device tree from scratch. Feel lucky to have such developers devoted for development for our devices. Provided you are still using p2. Cool down.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
Stop feeding the troll, please.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
A small mod by me https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=73418200

We can now remove unlocked bootloader warning.

Edit leave a thanks there rather than on this post.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] i.me.amit:
Any updates? I'm not asking for ETA. Just curious about how the things are going on.

Thanks in advance
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
Would I be correct in saying the roms from these two devs were most liked, *hendibudi and*wzedlare?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] i.me.amit:
Yeah I guess so
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevindiepenmaat:
Based on what?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] balugudidiot:
Guys Plz Plan to create a Whatsapp/Telegram grp also...for continuious discussion...
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dev.Katalyst:
I think we should give some time to Mike and other devs, and have patience for a month or two. We will surely have stable custom roms and hopefully the O update next year via xda devs , so keep calm and wait.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Javed ali:
Thanks ? brother
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] i.me.amit:
Ok brother. NP
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
Hear hear!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Javed ali:
I hope once we get official lineage os. We will get volte with all custom ROMs. Thanks ? in advance
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
Devs must have their own time to build, when I can't build, I should not demand...so will wait wait...Hope in the name of free time development, fate of P2 don't see end in middle. I want a good ending for P2. Expecting stock Android O from Lenovo bcz SD625 inside and lineage OS upto 15.2 bcz its P2...:D, Developers of P2:svetius::svetius::svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrColdbird:
God. Can't anyone form proper sentences anymore?

Every second post I see her locks lik dis bcz sumon didn't go too school or sumthin.

I know this is off topic but it had to be said.

Guys, please, form proper sentences.

Reading this topic has become a nightmare because of this.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
Thank you for saying this, because I have become frustrated with all this nonsense they're writing. Even google translate could have done a better job.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] arjun5463:
Hey Guys...... Is lenovo p2 a wise choice to buy now........ Its almost 1 year after its release
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] zalaTheOne:
Irony is that this one sentence "Every second post I see her locks lik dis bcz sumon didn't go too school or sumthin." has so many mistakes. :p
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] reality1234:
He was being sarcastic here :eek:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
The joke's on you!!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevindiepenmaat:
And now back on-topic please.

Is there anything where we can help?
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
[MENTION=2494638]celoxocis[/MENTION] Is there any news for cm15? Idk if it is out or not still just curious about o if you could enlighten us it would be great.

I'm really a noob and don't understand all this. Don't make jokes on me like it's lineage or ......
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Siva Mk:
You're not a noob. Every one here knows that as well ?

Well as a Matter of fact, maybe leaping to Android 8 might bring success. For example, the custom ROMs for devices like RN3 had very bad support for Android 6. However before a proper completion of Android 6, Android 7 was released and with fewer bugs.

So may be if Android 7 based is a no-go then, I think Android 8 might hand us some luck.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
all right!
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dude+:
Can we just concentrate on developing the P2.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
You will know everything about cm16 after 12th curiosity exams. Wisdom is like fine wine, don't rush the process in the name of harvesting happiness through enlightenment. Everything takes time to develop..:svetius::svetius:
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] abhayruparel:
You are the first person to come in my xda ignored list.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
Always there is a way left to pass on, than adding to ignore list or cleaning the thread..Don't be so quick to hit and judge anyone. Also remember distance is same. Good luck with your attitude. Hope I am the last one in your list.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] MithunSanthikumar:
The thing is it will take time for us to get into development.

I have another Lenovo device A5000, it still has a great amount of developer support and got a stable RR 5.8.x( remember it released with KitKat, got lollipop update and was a budget device). May be they will get Android O too. So may you all could ask developer in Lenovo A5000 's thread to support us
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] RevUp:
I just want to say something about p2 software development in other custom rom thread.. people have been complaining about not having volte and fp gesture.. I just want to clear this out that the dev are working on it.. people are downloading it for free and are still complaining about it.. if you want the feature so much why don't you just create it yourself, its open source.. anyone can create it themself, if you are saying that you don't have the knowledge to built it, then thats your own damn problem.. you are getting it for free.. stop complaining.. just flash deodexed version of the rom...
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ErDeuri:
Mostly the Indian users were asking for VoLTE

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I'm amazed by the developers support for Mi3 and Mi4 (cancro) device. They already got to taste Android Oreo. AOSP based on 8.0's first build is out there.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevindiepenmaat:
Great thanks :eek: now back on-topic after all this thread is about the development of the P2.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrColdbird:
I'm not complaining but TBH the only reason I'm not working on this myself is because it's my only phone that I actively use for work.

I can't afford to have a cellular downtime as my job pretty much depends on me being reachable at all times.

This is exactly why I offered my services before, given that someone provides me with a second donor device.

The community decided to put their bet on mike, now they have to sit back, watch and wait.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] RevUp:
I understand what you are saying, I just bought this phone 3 weeks ago and I immediately know that I cant rely on lenovo service and immediately proceed unlocking my bootloader..

I also rely on celular service in my line of work.. but I have seen a lot of rom have a lot of problem especially on celular service, so I just decided that I flashed myself a deodexed version of the rom.. its not custom rom, but if I get to make call and manage my work on my phone like I always do.. it work just fine..

Im not saying that all people are complaining, some actually do ask nicely but some just push it a little too far.. it's "lenovo" people should have known that its not going to be easy to break down the software..

I understand your problem, maybe you should flash deodexed rom, I myself are using right now and recommend to anyone who are waiting for a stable rom right now.. subtratum work fine on it, well not all exactly, kinda have to tweak it a little bit..

and no hard feeling okay :)
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
Can you recommend a dark substratum theme that works well and the sort of tweaks do I need to do. I tried swift dark but it didn't theme the system UI and many other apps.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] ErDeuri:
You didn't got him. He is actually a developer and was willing to work on Lineage OS for P2 earlier if we could get him a extra P2 but community choose Mike (recognized developer) over him.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] RevUp:
it looks like i misundertood that, english not my native language, sorry for that

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Ive used swift daek but avoiding system ui.. but used different theme layer for system ui, i've used "default dark theme" for system ui.. you wont get the full overall set, but at least did something to theme it
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pranavateja99:
I don't know what's happening, but some work is progressing daily, that's very good sign...hope P2 enter LOS downloads section with 15.0
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] medwatt:
That's just general development for lineage, which is normal; there's no indication that any work is done specifically on the P2.
[Lenovo P2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nextstar:
The last log specific for our device was of 31st july.