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[Nexus 6P General] note3userr:
The pixel 2 will not be priced fairly. I would go for the note 8 if money is not an issue or the next oneplus
[Nexus 6P General] Xavier102296:
Yea tell me about it ! Battery life is horrible , buddy of mine at work has a S7 edge that gets double the battery life as my phone
[Nexus 6P General] Geezerooo:
I'm not getting rid of my 6p until i have to. Best phone I've ever had. The only reason people have bad battery life is because your battery is getting old, deal with it, replace it and your good to go again. Just like ANY OTHER sealed phone eventually. Anyone who complains about the processor being outdated as well just wants to justify getting a new phone for no reason IMHO. I haven't found anything yet that will tax my processor enough to have to get something new. Even if my 6p gives up the ghost for good, I'll probably buy another used one to replace it rather than spending insane amounts of money on something new and "improved"

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Give it time, his battery will give out one day to. EVERYTHING has a life span.
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
I just got an RMA so I'll likely keep it awhile. Depends on my luck of the draw with the replacement. If it sucks I'll grab the Oneplus 5 or note.

I doubt we see removable batteries in any higher end device again. Companies claim design but reality is most of these phones aren't water proof and planned obsolesce especially now that device upgrades really aren't necessary every year is a powerful motivator. Unless of course you got a lemon that shuts off at 30% or gets 2 hours SOT or plain doesn't boot after a year or so. I'm hesitant to buy another nexus / pixel after my 6p and 5x.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
It's really hard for me not to get an s8 right now.
[Nexus 6P General] leondestiny:
probably a pixel 2 or 3 by the time they come out and whether my beloved 6p won't decide to die on me.
[Nexus 6P General] kaped31:
Pixel 2 or OnePlus 5
[Nexus 6P General] lizardrod:
Getting the oneplus 5 once it is released.
[Nexus 6P General] Imprezive13:
Pixel 2 for me .
[Nexus 6P General] bluegizmo83:
Looks like I'll be keeping my 6p for a while still. The battery life my not be top notch, but I get 4 to 5 hours of screen on time regularly, which is enough for me, especially when I can charge it for 0-100% in like 1.5 hours. My biggest hold up on an upgrade is I demand stereo front facing speakers, a good camera (which the 6p has when using the modded camera nx app), and a no bull**** as close to stock os as possible. The Pixel ticked all those boxes expect stereo front facing speakers so I passed on it, and it doesn't look like the Pixel 2 will be any different.
[Nexus 6P General] Xavier102296:
Honestly the design, speakers and the price of the pixel killed it for me , that phone looks horrible honestly there's nothing on the market right now that i would wanna pick up except the s8+ and that's pushing it because I only love using stock Android. Boy oh boy if they had an s8+ with stock Android with regular timely updates .... lol in a perfect world.
[Nexus 6P General] nds850:
OnePlus 5 or perhaps Pixel 2. Still happy with my 6P though!
[Nexus 6P General] Pig Vomit:
Keeping my fingers crossed on the Pixel 2. I would gladly get a S8 if I could run completely stock Android without root (and with monthly updates). Security is super critical for me for numerous reasons, unrooted for the first time a few months ago, haven't missed it.

That having been said, this week I purchased a $299 Moto G5 Plus (64GB/4GB) for someone, and I'm super impressed with quality and speed. Bluetooth and software is a little wonky, last security update was January, hoping for a ROM update, but since it's Moto G, probably not gonna get many updates. Honestly, if it were a Nexus release, I'd be super happy with it, as the hardware is great.
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
I picked up a new Moto Z on Verizon for $300 (for my wife).

Great phone if you can tolerate a locked bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] sp0rky:
Pixel 2, OnePlus 5 or Essential. Considering all of them
[Nexus 6P General] ab7casper:
The Essential is out of the question for me. I like to take pictures, and the quality of the pictures I've seen from that phone are not that great of quality.

I'm looking at the OnePlus 5. The samples from them have been a heck of a lot better. I've been checking out the 3T forums to see what kind of roms are offered and its not bad looking at all. I'm going to get the 5 and sell my 6p on Swappa. I just hope it has the horizontal dual camera.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Not the iPlus 5 anymore. The OnePlus 5 with a copycat iPhone 7 style is so sad. And with only a small 3,000mAh battery. Screw that.
[Nexus 6P General] armyav8tor:
I switched to an iPhone 7+ last month and couldn't be more pleased. Tried to hold out until the iPhone 8 came out but the 6P was becoming too awful to be a daily driver for me. Lag lag and more lag whenever it is asked to do anything but the simplest of tasks. Then it heats up and throttles creating even more lag and drains the battery. But the main reason for me abandoning ship was because of my DJI Mavic Pro. Nougat and DJI Go 4 don't mix... I'm still keeping the 6P because it used to be a great phone but somewhere along the line, Google ruined it probably in hopes that we would switch to Pixel. Well I switched alright and probably for good! With iOS, everything just works. Only bad part is there's not a community like XDA Developers. Which is why I'm trolling the forums with my 6P lol.
[Nexus 6P General] Kwanger:
I quite like the look of the Sony XZ Premium - but to be honest since I changed the battery in the 6P its just back to being great again - I think it'll do for at least another year if not more. To be honest I'm a bit disheartened Google has gone the 'premium $$$' route with the Pixels - I've had the Nexus 4, 5 and now 6P, always appreciated the latest updates and 'bang for the buck' factor (skipped the 6 because to me that one was overpriced when it came out as well).
[Nexus 6P General] dadoc04:
Exact same boat.... Probably will first day buy the XL2
[Nexus 6P General] matique:
I'd go for a phone with strong community support, above average hardware and proper company warranty support. Hated Huawei customer service.

HTC has great software but their phone design is...meh + s off is annoying.

LG G6 might be a good option, great prices on them now and generally has a good ROM support. Warranty issues for them is pretty good too.

Samsung S8/Note 8. KNOX is a huge turnoff but if the note 8 has good enough hardware, I'm sure I can live with a deskinned TouchWiz interface.

Huawei...nope not getting anywhere near them again.

OnePlus 5...if they sort out the jelly scroll issues and prices come down for it to be a no brainer.

I really really hope that Google releases a solid GP2. I won't even mind the premium price if all boxes are ticked.
[Nexus 6P General] zedmarcus:
Even before it came down in price I was getting tempted by the LG G6. But damn, the forums over there are like a ghost town. If I could get some AICP or DU on there, with decent support it could sway me.
[Nexus 6P General] Kaleshwar:
Guess you gotta give it some time.
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
I'm in the same boat.

My phone is still under warranty.

I think I'll just get Square Trade while the warranty is in place and keep what I have until it dies.
[Nexus 6P General] kravguy01:
Mate 10 is looking good but the price might be a showstopper.
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
It wont be any worse than than the note 8 or Pixel XL 2 likely

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, S7 edge or S6
[Nexus 6P General] pipnmike:
Does LG allow you to unlock the bootloader with ease?

Since OP5 doesn't have all of Verizon's bands, my choices are:

Pixel 2 XL

LG V30

Essential

I had a Note 3 before the 6P and loved the battery life, but can't go back to the locked bootloader anymore
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
No LG only allows BL unlock on certain specific model numbers....

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, S7 edge or S6
[Nexus 6P General] xlr231:
My 6p just died (bootloop) a few weeks ago about 2 months out of warranty. Was working great, no battery issues or anything, then it was just dead one day. I'm in the process of a claim with my CC company. Huawei was no help at all. I'm pretty sure whatever I get it won't be another Huawei.

I'm considering:

ZTE Axon 7 - I like the looks of it, OLED and front facing speakers, but the camera isn't great.

OnePlus 5 - screen jelly issues

LG V20 - have seen mixed reviews

Samsung S8/8+ - Amazing looking screen, Samsung pay, but everyone says touchwiz starts to lag. I've also read the screen scratches easily.

Also I'm not sure any of the above will receive timely updates. Who knows how long until (or if) they get Android O.

Probably the best option would be the Pixel XL, but it's almost $900. I could have maybe justified the $670 price they had last week, but I missed out on that. I've also read it has bluetooth issues and I've just spent over $500 on bluetooth headphones, car adapter, and OBDII dongle in the last 6 months so I want reliable BT.

I'm thinking the S8+ may be the best option but I haven't had a non pure Android phone in years, and when I did I switched to an AOSP ROM.
[Nexus 6P General] Smykoo:
Nex 6p has a great camera better than op5. The front speakers, nice original look and pure android.

Sent from Google Nexus
[Nexus 6P General] Kaleshwar:
Or you could buy the Pixel XL on Swappa.
[Nexus 6P General] xlr231:
I've never been big on used electronics, and after my experience with the 6P buying a phone with no warranty is the last thing I'll be doing. Plus if it does have bluetooth issues like I've seen some reports of I'm stuck not being able to return it.
[Nexus 6P General] Kaleshwar:
True but you can get a resale like for 620 or 700
[Nexus 6P General] zerosource:
so far so good with s8 besides obstacle with knox/root/unlock.

nothing is perfect.
[Nexus 6P General] Kimbo82:
I will buy a Galaxy Note 8 after this! :)
[Nexus 6P General] WarVic[NZ]:
Battery on Nexus 6P and others "sealed" phones can be replaced. It is not a big deal. I did it by myself. Battery costs around $10 - 15. In case of Nexus 6p, you will have to replace camera glass cover and bottom plastic cover (around $10 for both parts). Again, it is a relatively easy job so there is no need to be a high qualified IT tech for it. Cheers

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Played with S8 and sold it once found out that its main camera is worse than one in 2y.o. Nexus 6P. Sure nothing is perfect but this is bloody disappointing.
[Nexus 6P General] zerosource:
can you elaborate on this?
[Nexus 6P General] Suhas_JS:
Nokia 8 looks interesting...
[Nexus 6P General] Smykoo:
Nex 6P is still a great device. Only Pixel 2 is a good choice. Need to wait.

Sent from Google Nexus
[Nexus 6P General] FlamingAngel82:
Genuinely curious, would an Honor 9 be a down/sidegrade to the 6p? Just thinking in terms of not so obvious things! Don't have a lot of spare cash generally, so Pixels and the like are well out of my price range...
[Nexus 6P General] condor97:
Anyone else taking a close look at the Essential phone? Looks sweet, and seems like the closest thing to a Nexus out there.
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
I think it would be a downgrade mainly for 3 reasons:

1. The stereo speakers.

2. The OS and security updates.

3. Developer support and community.

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I hate the chin of the device and that up sensor cut out, no symmetry in design which I hate the most(But that's why it's unique).

Personally i like the approach of Samsung towards the bezel less device, by maintaining symmetrical bezels that are small in size. I hate it when OEMs remove one bezel from one side and leave the other resulting in a device with a chin and calling it bezel less.

Either remove both bezels or keep them but make them as small as possible and symmetrical.

On the software side we will have to wait and see their update frequency and support.
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
I read somewhere that Essential source wouldn't be open, that's a no go for me. Unlocking the bootloader is fine, making a TWRP is fine, no kernel source though, that's a deal breaker...

If that changes, or was just the wrong information, then Essential would be a great device. "Bezels" don't really bother me, I cast more than I use just the phone (I have a 60" HDTV with surround sound) Essential specs are great, and does anyone remember when we didn't need a waterproof phone?
[Nexus 6P General] bluegizmo83:
I've been using Android devices since the very first release (T-Mobile G1, or HTC Dream as it was also called) and to this day I've never owned a waterproof device (I upgrade every year or two), and I've never had a device fail because of water damage either. I've heard that waterproofing basically means horrible speaker(s), and to me that's just not worth it. That's one of the only reason I avoided the Pixel and kept my 6p for so long, it has great stereo speakers.
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
I guess I can understand if you're a professional life guard, or something, lol. I haven't had a waterproof phone either, nor needed one for that matter. Since I don't jump in the pool or take a shower with it :silly:

Side note, I compared my 6P against my wife's Pixel, her's was louder...
[Nexus 6P General] bluegizmo83:
Lol yeah same here, no need for waterproofing. The 6p isn't the loudest phone out there by default, but once rooted you can easily bump up the volume levels and it stays nice clean clear sound, and I just love the stereo front facing aspect. No phone speakers are ever going to be audiophile grade awesome, but the 6p easily has the best audio I've ever had from device speakers. Usually what I've heard about sound quality on waterproof devices is slightly distorted and/or tiny sounding.
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
Yep, there you go, you nailed it in nutshell (the hell that even mean, lol) I have ARISE on all our phones, and it really makes a difference.
[Nexus 6P General] pipnmike:
They had a reddit AMA a few days ago and they mentioned that they will release the kernel and factory images soon. Not sure if that means the same thing as a "source". Anyway, it seems like in order to get a new phone this year, there is at least one compromise with each phone:

V30 - locked down

Essential - bad camera, although they said they'll "improve" it with software, but i doubt it

Pixel 2 - if the leaks are true, then it's damn ugly and it's pricey - why are they following in Apple and Samsung's footsteps... they are nowhere close to those guys yet
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
Releasing kernel source will be a big plus for the Essential. As for the LG V30, the "carrier unlocked" version, should have an unlockable bootloader, and qualify for LG's unlocking program, just like previous LG "carrier unlocked" phones.

I was looking forward to the Pixel 2 XL, but, I ain't paying no $1000 for a freaking phone, I don't care how awesome it is. That's just crazy!

Another item to keep an eye out for, would be the ZTE Axon 9. I've heard it's going to be a lot like the Axon 7, only more updated. We'll just have to wait and see, October should be a interesting month.
[Nexus 6P General] pipnmike:
Ah good point about "carrier unlocked". Thanks. Pixel 2 XL doesn't even have dual cameras. What flagship in 2017 does NOT have a dual camera setup? Unbelievable Google.. fail. And yes, $1000 for a phone is crazy.
[Nexus 6P General] umair shaikh:
got my oneplus 5 here 3 week ago !

and must say the performance is top notch!
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
From Phone Connoisseur [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] (he knows his phones):

There's plenty of discussion about it, Here (LG V30 Forum) I'm leaning more and more toward this device, but haven't made up my mind yet...

I'm on Verizon for the foreseeable future...
[Nexus 6P General] MrKaon:
Just got my Pixel XL as a replacement for Nexus 6P, thanks to Google.
[Nexus 6P General] hotrodhell:
Mi mix 2

Elephone s8

?
[Nexus 6P General] Prey521:
After the leaks of the Pixel XL 2 dropped, I'm going with the LG V30.
[Nexus 6P General] RojasTKD:
Well, have had my Note 8 for a week now and an happy.

Battery life is far superior to what my 6P ever gave me, especially now that after 16 months the 6P can only hold about 60 of it's original charge. That is the worse battery deterioration over every experienced.

A LG V30 may also be in my future for my second phone.

Not really interested in the Pixel. I like my SD card slot, headphone jack and the horrid battery performance and deterioration of the 6P had left a bad taste in my mouth.
[Nexus 6P General] harihacker:
Got lucky and had a replacement Pixel XL from google.

Would not sell my 2nd 6P though. I like the phone. That one will remain as a backup. :)
[Nexus 6P General] hern1989:
I got a pixel xl replacement too and the only thing i miss a lot from the 6p are the front facing speakers. Everything else is better than the 6p imo.
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
My wife has had her Pixel for a while, and loves it. I had one for about a week before I returned it, because I couldn't unlock it (Verizon)

The V30 releases today in Korea, or it's supposed to, and the US carrier unlocked version of the V30 should come out in October.

I love my 6P, but it's time to start working with a new phone ;)
[Nexus 6P General] .vermilion:
My Nexus 6P is in repair at the moment.

I got the bootloop of death, nothing helped to get it started again. No heat, no freezing, no low battery to start it - nothing.

In repair I was told that my eMMC is broken. I thought about the CPU, but okay...

Since the problem occurs all of a sudden, I fastly bought an Umidigi Z1 Pro :D It wasn't bad at all, I enjoyed this device for about a month. Now I'm with a OnePlus 5 and totally happy about it.

Maybe I will be lucky like a few others here and will receive a Pixel XL as replacement, but be that as it may, I'll pass the Nexus or the Pixel to one of my family members.
[Nexus 6P General] edda123:
I'd love a Pixel 2. But no headphone jack is so extremely bad, don't like that idea at all. So maybe a V30. Although neither of them might not even be released here in Sweden so might be out of luck anyway.
[Nexus 6P General] idbl_fanatic:
I'm REALLY liking the Essential Phone, but I will need to wait to see how it turns out since it is so new
[Nexus 6P General] Prey521:
All the reviews from the reviewers I trust the most said that the phone is Essentially Crap, given the price vs other phones on the market.
[Nexus 6P General] Suhas_JS:
Have just placed an order for Honor 8 Pro... Will be paying 3/4th the price after exchanging my favourite N6P... Do not want to let this phone go, but all good things should come to an end...
[Nexus 6P General] strafer69:
Pixel XL 128gb thanks to Google. Came yesterday. Missing the front facing speakers but damn this phone is quick! Loving the camera!
[Nexus 6P General] Kaleshwar:
Go custom now.
[Nexus 6P General] Smykoo:
Pixel is the best choice after 6P.

Sent from Google Nexus
[Nexus 6P General] .vermilion:
Lucky you! Hope I'll get it as well :D
[Nexus 6P General] 318sugarhill:
I have many iPhone friends that just keep the dingle attached to their headphones. The headphone jack really is no big deal.

The pixel is an excellent phone. I had one for a year but the wife took when we gave our daughter my wife's S7. So I'm back to my old N6p. I didn't believe the pixel XL was significantly better... But going backwards I'm not happy. Don't want to shell out the $ for a new phone.... But I might have to get a pixel 2. I'd have given the 6p to my kid... But it's far too big of a phone for her. She'd drop it constantly and add a protective case it would be like a tablet.
[Nexus 6P General] RojasTKD:
Sure that works if you only use your headphones so oh your noon headphone jack device. Most of us will have to remove that damn thing to use it with other devices (laptops for instance).

In all honesty though Google devices have never had good audio output. I often use a Mpow Bluetooth receiver with my 6P, and other devices, when at the gym and out and about and it sounds better that straight out of the headphone jack as it has a better amp than the stuff Google puts in it's devices. I think BT sound better than what Google offers anyway. It is still inconvenient though.
[Nexus 6P General] bobwonderful:
Well.. I was kind of forced into a new phone today. My battery has only been able to be useful for about 45 minutes of on screen time. I contacted both google and Huawei. Google forced me to contact Huawei as I didn't buy the phone directly from Google. I bought it from craigslist a month after it was released and got a great deal on the new phone as the guy who bought it said his wife didn't like it. Unfortunately, I didn't know about being able to transfer the warranty. Huawei wanted to charge about 160 for the battery replacement. Google recommended going to UBREAKITIFIX and they were going to charge me $79 to replace it . They finally got the back ordered batteries in today. Unfortunately for me I had too many things in my hand this morning while closing my car door and dropped the phone on the ground. The screen cracked basically 20 minutes before I was going to bring my phone in to UBREAKIFIX. When I got there, I was quoted about $249 for the screen repair. What a rip off! So I didn't get the repairs. I am going to try to repair them myself, later on. Later in the day, Woot.com was offering refurbushed Pixels and XL's between $349 and 449, so I ordered a 128GB Pixel XL. My son has one already and he is very happy about it. I was hoping to wait till the Pixel2 XL's came out and try to find a used on for a good deal, but oh well, hopefully this one should last for a few years. The only thing I don't like about the Pixel is the fact it doesn't have front facing speakers. Otherwise it is a slight step up over the Nexus 6P. Looking forward to not rooting my phone because my work mandated Airwatch to be loaded and it couldn't get loaded on rooted devices and similar to Concur (expense management app) . The camera is also better than the Nexus 6P's but I have always been pretty amazed about the camera on the 6P's.
[Nexus 6P General] Dconn1975:
Tell me about the one plus 5 if you will. That would be the phone I'd have interest in after my 6p dies which I hope is long time off from now. I just bought mine brand new from an individual who had bought it from Google but actually never even opened it up. It had just been sitting at his house sealed in the box until I came across him by accident. He was very generous and actually sold it to me for $150!! It's even a 64g too. Anyways I had been looking at the one plus 3t but I didn't think the one plus 5 was available in the US yet. Is that correct? What are the specs on it? What is the screen size? My next phone will most likely be a one plus but which model I don't know yet what my budget will be. I'd of course want the one plus 5 if I can afford it but it seems like one plus keeps getting more and more expensive. Can you tell me about the one plus 5 vs the 3t? Those two or one of those two will probably be my next big purchase. I simply could not pass up this deal I got on the 6p so here I am with my second one but for only $150.
[Nexus 6P General] thesebastian:
I will go for the Pixel 2 (regular version).

Ive been using 6P for 6 months. Amazing phone

I even one hand it most of the time....but I still want to go back to a smaller phone.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
RMA'd to Pixel XL and very impressed! Will upgrade to the Pixel XL 2 ASAP!
[Nexus 6P General] dontbeweakvato:
Take my money pleeeese Google I want to have a night alone with the pixel xl2. I know the day I receive her will be the greatest day of them all. Leading up from the sleepless night before in anticipation She will be beautiful and loud and if she gets a little dirty...... In the bath she go. I am addicted to her 'style' and 'function'. She represents endless possibilities without end.

GOOGLE, your gettin good. Real good.

TAKE MY ****ING MONEY ALREADY!