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[Nexus 6P General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I'm done with Google/Android after the 6P.

I've been an Android fan boy since I got the HTC Dream (G1).

I've gone through countless Android devices. I've enjoyed the crap out of them, and for almost ever they've been ahead of apple in terms of hardware or software features or build quality or something else.

I'm tired of Android. Tired of rooting my devices. Tired of the moves towards automation with no response to iMessage. Tired of app developers constantly putting out a better product for iOS.

I'm just tired of being tired of Android.

If I can make this device last until I am able to purchase an iPhone X I will, and if I can't wait that long I'll purchase an iPhone 8. I'm just hoping this device doesn't crap out on me until then because I bought through Best Buy and cannot RMA through Google despite having a battery that now shuts off at >15% left.
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
I got my first iPhone one week ago the iPhone 8 plus, the reason I bought it is to enjoy both Android and iOS without settling with just one. In a short answer Android all the way, I thought iOS will be smoother than Android but unless the apps are open beforehand on ios they simply lag like Android even worse, and don't get me started with the bits of visual hiccups when opening certain settings pages or system overall. I would say the things I love about the 8plus is the camera, the speakers they are really loud with a good bass and the battery is definitely good. In terms of software features I really got bored with the device after one day use.

Now if you are someone who can't afford to get two devices, I would say don't buy an Apple device go for the Pixel 2 XL or any Android device you like it's much worth it. I was waiting for Pixel 2 XL but since I own a 6p I said what's the point of owning two Android devices and what would I do with my 6p since its second hand value is depressing I would rather keep it than sell it plus it's good for another year until the Pixel 2 XL price goes down then I would salvage every penny from selling the 6p and get it.
[Nexus 6P General] Dconn1975:
Although my Nexus 6p is brand new I'm still getting the iPhone 10 or X. I used to be exclusively apple up until about a year and half ago. Actually this is my second time owning the 6p and I love it. I think I'm safe for now on the battery issue since my 6p is new but being an apple guy by heart I want the X iPhone pretty badly. So if all goes according to plan I'll end up getting the iPhone X as my next device. If that falls through then I'll go back with the trusty honor 8. I used that device for a long time and loved it. Loved EMUI so I would not mind owning another. My other choice would be a one plus model. Maybe the 3t.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
Wow my 7 Plus was the fastest phone I've ever owned. I got bored of the os and the phone was much too large but never did I encounter lag
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
The beauty of Android is you can customize anything on it,on my 6p I can speed up the animation or simply disable it so that my experience is enhanced to my specifications. But on iOS you are simply stuck with what is allowed for you to alter. Using Android default settings surely isn't as fast as I have described but after some customization my setup really flies.

By way this isn't a rant more like stating self experience findings.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
I find the 6p pretty laggy. My s7 edge is very smooth though. I think it's due to the sd810 honestly.
[Nexus 6P General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
While I enjoy many aspects of Android to be frank I am tired of having such customization. I know that sounds funny. I am certain it will take time to adjust to the idea that if I don't like a certain aspect of how things are set in iOS that I cannot change it.

The very idea that picking my iPhone out of the box it will work. iPhones work. That's the bottom line, everything packed into them is going to work for you. I don't have to tinker with 5 different settings in 3 tabs to get something to change in the way I want. iOS has come a long way in multitasking abilities. Android and iOS both experience draw time issues but realistically both platforms will forever run into these issues.

I want a phone that will work, be reliable, and I won't have to fidget with. I am done fidgeting... I want easy mode, that's iOS. iPhone 8 is running iOS11 out of the box, correct? Like any initial OS release from Apple (and Google) there are improvements that need to be made. There are glitches and issues with iOS 11 and those will be ironed out much sooner than glitches would be fixed if your carrier branded/skinned fix is sent out for your Android.

Out of the box, it works. That's what I want at the end of the day. I want a nice camera, iPhone always has a better picture regardless of the hardware. iPhone won't overheat on you so bad you could cook your dinner on it like my LG V10 or Nexus 6P. The battery has longevity. My 6P doesn't use the last 14% anymore. Android has always given me inconsistent battery life even day to day on the same ROM/kernel or even stock.

I think I have gotten my point across, I'm over Android. That's a hard thing for me to say but hey, it's happened.

I appreciate those trying to give me pros for Android but I know it all. Been here for years. All good. iOS and I will be getting acquainted here in the first week of November.
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
Not trying to start an argument here, I know it's you personal experience and opinion. But the term "just works" it's hard for me to swallow, all of Android devices simply work fine without tinkering with any settings if you choose it to be. Simply open apps and get going with your business, if you want more options more optimizations then with Android you have the choice to do that which isn't the case for iOS. I got your point and it seems iOS is the right OS for you and nothing is wrong with that it's your preference but please stop repeating the line "it just works" because it really doesn't mean a thing at least to me.
[Nexus 6P General] turboedm:
I will most likely be getting a LG V30 US unlocked.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
"Rogue apps" and such still get annoying. iPhones are very consistent, which is why I switched, but very boring, hence why I switched back lol
[Nexus 6P General] Prey521:
After watching the launch and seeing what the Pixel 2 can do, I changed my mind..... Just ordered the XL 2 128gb.....can't wait!
[Nexus 6P General] winxuser:
I might be getting the Xperia xz premium, seems like a really good phone to upgrade to
[Nexus 6P General] aramil:
Just ordered a Black Pixel 2 XL 64GB, having watched the blurb looks good.... keeping the 6p around though.
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
After watching the Pixel 2 launch event and some reviews. I am not excited about any of the two variants they are both ugly. If I had to choose one I would go for the Pixel 2 instead of XL since it's cheaper by 200 USD and has the same specifications of the XL except screen and battery, saving 200 USD would be more worth it for buying accessories or future proofing knowing Google.

I think I will be using my 6p until the Pixel 2 goes down in price and the 6p stops receiving major updates.
[Nexus 6P General] ButtonBoy:
I know it's heresy, but I bought myself an iPhone 8 Plus.

Why would a committed Android developer (You have no idea how long) jump ship to such a different device and ecosystem?

1. Regular updates.

These only come on two phones right now. Apple and Google phones. I am so disappointed in how Google treated me and the battery issues I was having with my 6P. They used every excuse in the book to refuse service to me. Bottom line- it was their name on the device. To me it didn't matter that I bought the phone from a third party. Google failed to stand behind it. That only left me with one other choice- Apple.

2. International capabilities.

I travel a lot for work. I'm typing this while in Japan. Next week I may be in Seattle, or San Jose. The following week I will be in Europe. No matter where I go, I need a phone that will work on a wide selection of local carriers. Again, that leaves me only two choices. Nexus/Google or Apple.

So how has it been in my first two weeks?

1. I have already received two updates. (11.01 and 11.02) Both installed and rebooted with no issues.

2. I detest the keyboard options. WTF- can't anyone give me a damn keyboard with a number row on the top?

3. iTunes- a complete cluster fork. I had 2 hours to copy some of my music on to this new phone before heading back to the airport. There is no way to directly copy to the NAND in this phone. It has to go through iTunes. iTunes does not understand ape files (235+ CDs in my collection have been ripped to this) I really am getting pissed at this crappy "walled garden". I am smarter than my phone, yet it does not treat me this way.

4. The shell. A mild PITA that isn't any worse than anything I had on Android. Although I do miss my big clock widget that always told me the time at home as well as where I am now.

5, Apps. Hey- these are pretty cool. I'm still trying to deal with a lack of a back arrow function, but these apps are far more consistent in their UI design. Also, the extra work developers are putting in to little stuff like animations is very nice.

So all in all, it's mixed. I am committed for another 11 months or so, but after that I may have to consider Android again. I hope they have fixed their attitude about customer support by then. And it would be even nicer if the return to the 3.5mm plug. Or maybe LG will offer regular updates for the V30.
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
Im dying to see a 6p vs pixel xl 2 speaker battle!

Wish they had offered a 256gb version because i love the rest of the device but i dont think 128 will be enough.

sent from my Note FE
[Nexus 6P General] Techvir:
Xl2 with accidental care warranty is around 1600 cad . My 6p with 128gb and accidental care was only 900 something.. Wow.... If they planned a 256gb it will be close to 2000 :eek:
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
Yeah i still think they overprice too much, the XL2 is nice but in comparison to say a note 8 it does still lack some features and shouldnt be as expensive.

If it didn't have those front firing speakers i wouldnt even consider it.

sent from my Note FE
[Nexus 6P General] Techvir:
I was waiting for pixel but very much disappointed with what Google has done.. They are trying to transform to apple with excessive pricing for the subpar product, making fun of 3.5mm jack and pulling the plug on that and so on. They are not even including a free adaptor ( even apple and moto gives away a free adaptor).... so much to say:(

I have decided to go with note 8. Now need to find the proper Exynos that can be rooted. With the OEM unlock fiasco, I have to check what version I have to purchase. Pdaplaza.ca seems to have the best price now. I am not sure if they are selling the rootable Exynos.

Any ideas on their reliability of this site?
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
For the note 8 100% with out OEM issue you need eirher a korean N version or order the F version from clove UK.

Other than those 2 your rolling the dice

sent from my Note FE
[Nexus 6P General] jt3:
I was a bit sad to see that the new pixels don't have wireless charging, but I've been having serious battery issues with my 6P, so I was torn between buying a P2XL, or using my Fi insurance, and probably getting a Pixel XL (for the $99 deductible). Ultimately, between the camera (OIS+EIS? Yeah, baby!), the IP67 rating, and the squeezable frame (I use Google Assistant constantly -- many times per day), I decided there was enough value for me to go ahead and go for the P2XL. I ordered the 128GB Just Black. Estimated delivery on 10/25.
[Nexus 6P General] NepoRood:
Good things are coming for the Note 8, wait before you buy ;)

These phone manufacturers will charge whatever they like, as long as we continue to pay. I remember when I thought $400 was outrageous for a phone...
[Nexus 6P General] Techvir:
I am waiting for the price to drop a price it more...
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
You hit the nail on the head, I have similar experience as stated earlier on my previous post what are the things I like about the 8plus since owning it for 2 weeks now. But in a nutshell I prefer Android for the flexibility and the infinity of options you can do with your device.

I would suggest trying out "Syncios" for syncing files or media in general instead of the latest version of iTunes which is a downgrade from the previous version which had the option to install apps from other store markets.

Initially I was waiting for the Pixel 2 to be available for purchase in a nearby country but now after learning that the Pixel 2 doesn't have led notification while the XL has one I got really pissed.

I will be waiting until the price goes down for the Pixel 2 XL or until something better comes along. Either way I will have two devices from both environment iOS and Android to enjoy the best of both worlds.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
Easy enough to enable. Does it simply not have led notification, which our phone technically didn't either, or no led at all?
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
No physical led notification. Hardware wise not software.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
Oh crap I had no idea. That sucks. I would get the XL anyway, the regular one is ugly imo
[Nexus 6P General] note3userr:
Just got the note 8 with the Sprint 50% off promotion. Wow what a monster this phone is. Touchwiz is way more optimized and feels less bloat then it did when I had my last Samsung the note 4. Phone is gorgeous. Will miss the 6p but I'm so glad I don't have to deal with all its issues anymore lol
[Nexus 6P General] Suhas_JS:
I traded my Nexus 6P for an Honor 8 Pro... Regretting it now... I'm doing away with Honor 8 Pro and planning for an OP5 or Nokia 8... These are the only phones with near stock Android and that comes under my budget ($450/€500/35000INR). Need your honest suggestions...
[Nexus 6P General] Loccy:
I considered the Honor 8 Pro - what don't you like about it?

Having got to the point where my 6P was too unreliable to use, and being unwilling to spend serious money on a current flagship (none of which I particularly liked the look of - these long thin screens are just wrong) I was on the verge of importing a Xiaomi device.

Then I saw the Moto G5S Plus reviewed on YouTube and it sold me on the device. Having run the phone for a week or so it has exceeded my wildest expectations.

Screen is clear and bright - lower res than the 6P and slightly smaller (5.5") so similar to the Oneplus 5. Slightly smaller than the 6P but you can recover that screen real estate by disabling the nav bar and using swipes on the fingerprint sensor. This works really well and quickly becomes intuitive.

Performance is excellent - for my use cases I've genuinely not noticed any difference to the 6P. Although I don't play games and my phone is primarily a communication and media device. But in use, switching from apps like a browser, email, etc, it zips along. The Snapdragon 625 isn't state of the art but it's no slouch. And in terms of ram, even the low end Moto matches the 6P.

The Moto stock rom is also excellent. Almost entirely stock Nougat. A couple of little additions for gestures etc which are actually useful. After rooting I've felt no inclination to install a custom rom (yet!).

Only a single bottom firing speaker, but it is loud and clear.

Oh, and excellent battery thus far. Reckon I could push 6 hours screen on with this puppy...

So, if you're on a budget and/or you aren't digging the new "Longphone is long" bezelless form factor that is becoming all the range, check out the Moto G5S Plus. For me it was the right form factor, works really well out of the box, and ball-breakingly good value. I haven't been this happy with a phone since I first got the 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] MrMiami81:
Strongly considering the essential phone
[Nexus 6P General] TheJareBear:
I'm not complaining about my 6P's battery because I just think it's old. However, rather than sink money in an old phone I thought I'd get the new Pixel 2 XL for replacement. Similar reason I bought the 6P. Had no intention of upgrading but my N6 took a fall and I didn't wanna pay $250 for new screen on an older model. 6P was already out for like 5 months. I sure will mix the 6P, still one of my all-time favorite phone designs.
[Nexus 6P General] Instigare:
I'm looking to buy the Nokia 8, it's got everything I missed on the 6P and everything I love about the 6P as well (except for dual FF speakers orz).
[Nexus 6P General] pankaj786:
may be upcoming pixel of next year..... as my 6p is working fine till now
[Nexus 6P General] TNS201:
I got a Pixel XL from google to replace my 6p 128gb and the Pixel is pretty nice phone. I don't like how they put the speakers on the bottom for sure. Going to trade in for the Pixel 2 XL 128GB and get $410 off.
[Nexus 6P General] rfvreynoso:
What was wrong with your Nexus 6p ? I assume you had Nexus protect coverage.
[Nexus 6P General] arhung:
pixel 2 xl
[Nexus 6P General] 400ixl:
Just had my 6P replaced by Google, so now have essentially a new phone again which does all of what I need today. Will probably get a Pixel 2 XL once I have played with one in person and the price has dropped a bit. So probably sometime 1st half of next year to get some of the newer features. Unless something else comes out in the meantime which is a better choice.
[Nexus 6P General] wazka2:
I find it really hard to find a proper replacement for 6p.

I was thinking about Pixel XL since the price has dropped a lot but my gf has Pixel and front facing camera and low light shots are noticeably worse on Pixel.

I have pre-ordered Pixel 2 XL, but after visiting the store, a few stores I am not sure... Built quality doesn't seem as good as on small Pixel 2 and Pixel ones, every screen I have seen had some sort of non uniformity which reminds me of 6p screen lottery, not sure if I want to deal with it.

S8 front camera is proper crap, so no for me.

Actually thinking of getting Pixel 2, great built quality, screen looked better than XL 2, but not so sure about small phone again...

6p is just too damm good... ;)
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
There is no notification led on the Pixel 2 but the 2XL has one. Personally I was going for the Pixel 2 but I think I will wait until the Pixel 2 XL has more reviews and the price drops further, personally I feel both phones suck in design but I can’t go back to a device without at least 2 years of software upgrades like 3 major OS upgrades not just 1 or 2 upgrades at best with other OEM brands.
[Nexus 6P General] Pandawg:
Got the Note8. It's amazing. I love the screen and camera. I actually like what Samsung did with it's skin. No show down, but it's too early. The battery life is amazing too. Not sure how I get the battery I get considering the smaller battery and the bigger screen.

No more ROMs, but it's something I can live without.
[Nexus 6P General] cheesiepoof:
I hate to say it, but I might be just doing the iPhone X. We'll see how long it lasts. Haven't used an iPhone as my daily driver since the 3G on AT&T in 2008.
[Nexus 6P General] Poloasis:
Got the same thing, will do the same thing. The Pixel XL was a surprise to me on how fast and fluid it is compare the 6P. Don't get me wrong the 6P is no sludge with all I did with it "Magisk, kernel, theme, mod etc", after doing the same with the Pixel XL, that's another beast all together. I can only imagine the 2 XL when everything becomes available for it.
[Nexus 6P General] crixley:
I had a 7 Plus for a bit, hated iOS but the phone itself was fantastic. It was insanely smooth and the ram management is seriously incredible.
[Nexus 6P General] th3discodancer:
+1

6P has been perfect.

Every phone option at this stage is a downgrade in atleast 1 or 2 key areas.

The 2 XL comes close but, like you said, the screen. Heartbreaking.
[Nexus 6P General] crucialcolin:
Me too.

I did a quick comparison at our local Verizon with a few different types of music and found the XL 2 to be not as good overall. Might depend on user preferences though. Basically the 6P can play significantly louder with a wider sound field(more bass and treble) while the XL 2 doesnt suffer from distortion at high volumes but is somewhat flat and muted sounding.

I think I would say the sound on the XL 2 appeared to be closer to some of the one speaker designed devices like iPhones, etc thus it's nothing special unless your coming from one of those said devices. Then it seems like a huge upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] TNS201:
Yea the Pixel is nice. Getting Pure Nexus to boot was a pain for me but finally got it after hours of tinkering. Kept having my internal storage wiped and boot loops or stuck on google logo... Only gonna have the phone for a few weeks so not too worried about it. It is a nice phone overall except where they put the speakers and LED notification light was bad. Like that the Pixel 2 XL they fixed both those things. Mine is supposed to ship on the 26th or sooner maybe. I got my case and scree protectors ordered already.
[Nexus 6P General] c0drea:
I would really like an LG v30 as a replacement for my nexus 6p. I think it's a great phone. ( Sorry for my English )
[Nexus 6P General] Toothdock:
Just ordered my Pixel 2 XL 128GB

WITH INSURANCE

I'm not planning on getting screwed like I have with this 6P again. Anything would be better than a piece of junk that cuts off at 60% battery. Really a shame because it was such a great phone otherwise.
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
Just saw an unboxing of the Pixel 2 XL and the not symmetrical gap between the screen and speakers is killing me. Especially the upper speaker. I am really disappointed and I can't find a good replacement for my N6p, it seems I will have to wait for 2018 phones for a good replacement because non of the offerings is close to perfect they all suffer from something missing.

In the meantime I will have to settle with iPhone 8+.
[Nexus 6P General] Poloasis:
Nice
[Nexus 6P General] rchtk:
Seriously looking at this for my next phone for 2019: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
[Nexus 6P General] shusuke028:
6P dying, need recommendations

Hey everyone,

Soooo, my 6P has the early shutdown issue and needs a new mic. I'm using this as an opportunity to upgrade my phone. I initially wanted the Pixel XL 2, but I got denied for the financing and I can't afford to pay that much for a phone upfront. Sooo, now I'm looking at getting a Pixel XL (even though I'm kinda disappointed about that).

So, does anyone have any other suggestions on what phone I could get for $600 or less ($600 at the absolute highest). I was thinking either the Pixel XL or the One Plus 5, but I look forward to trying Google Daydream which isn't supported by OnePlus 5.

HELPPPP
[Nexus 6P General] Rashad83:
From my experience if you are buying something new, either buy the phone you really want, find a way to get it and never settle or simply wait for it until it's within your budget. The Pixel 2 XL is the latest from Google but I don't think it's the greatest especially all the bad reviews it's getting for the XL screen you better wait for more reviews.

I hear alot of good things about the OnePlus but I think it's better to wait for their coming upgrade which is coming soon.

Personally if I had to pick a device right now which is overall great and budget friendly I would go with the Samsung S8+.
[Nexus 6P General] shusuke028:
I appreciate your comment. Thanks for the help :laugh: . From what I've seen about the Pixel 2 XL reviews, the screen isnt necessarily bad for people who aren't huge into screen quality and I'm definitely not. I want it for the bigger screen (much smaller bezels than the pixel XL), the waterproof, the latest snapdragon, rooting/modding, and front facing speakers.

I agree with what you say about getting what I want. And if I trade in my 6P, the base 2XL would only be about $200 more than me buying a Pixel XL... Ugh. I was gonna go for the OnePlus but it doesn't have daydream support which is somewhat important to me too since I've always wanted to try VR and I can see myself using it often.

And I considered the S8+, but rooting, an unlocked bootloader and modding is also important to me.