yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
Do you want to post some samples?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] jassu:
I have also this trouble
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] *justintime*:
Just throwing up a ball here, did someone tried a third party app? And see if it improves a little?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] KejPi:
What I saw in this review is somehow disappointing for me https://youtu.be/D_gyFDfPUfo

I want to buy new phone and I have chosen U11 mainly due to the camera and SW performance but I expected it better than S8 :( Now I reconsider S8 again :(
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] cstark27:
I didn't think to back the photos up from the phones before I rooted the U11, but I don't see missing EXIF when I download from Google Photos so give this a try: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5tsf-_V_ltYZVI3a0QxQ2FWQ1U/view?usp=sharing

To others, the quality of the U11 in my opinion is really good. I've tried the S7, S8, Pixel and now U11. I am a detail guy; I don't like Samsung's post-processing. The sharpening kills detail and the sharpening artifacts are apparent. Low light performance on the S7 and S8 did not match up to the Pixel - indoor photos of my kid were "hazy/foggy" and pair that with the inherent 0.5-1 second delay, it wasn't for me. I don't like much about the Pixel besides it's hand-able size and the photo quality. The U11 however seems to take more detailed photos than the Pixel especially in low light, maybe a tiny bit slower (0.25-0.5 seconds), and the overall "HDR-ness" doesn't match up to the Pixel (blown out skies), but I wouldn't hesitate to call it the best phone camera right now...........in my subjective opinion. Also, the focus of the U11 is more consistent/quicker than the Pixel (so was the S7/S8). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Everyone's desires are different, though, so only you can form your own opinion on the subject.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
Thanks, I have them already.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] *justintime*:
I am a bit schocked about the Videocamera quality. I was planning to shoot some video of my kid indoors... But wow Grain Grain Grain on the tiles.

Look at this... And as a comparison the LG G4.

PS. Don't mind my kid brable.

HTC U11

https://youtu.be/tIbbDd19hYQ

LG G4

https://youtu.be/6BTPu7WSngs
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
Sorry to hear that. What is going on with all that artifact play? I witnessed that even in normal light conditions, almost every video on you tube exhibits that unpleasant digital flaw one or another way . Something that I never experienced with my Pixel.

Still awaiting for my U11 Ice White to arrive today but if the video quality like that on all U11 units my phone will be returned .
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] *justintime*:
I only hope it will be solved in the next update.

The Grain/Pixel jumping look worser on the U11 screen than in the actual video.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
I wrote this issue on HTC UK twitter.

It caught my attention from the very beginning. If that was only a noise observed in low light situations it would makes sense however these digital deviations observed in perfectly great light. For instance when panning smartphone from side to side in highly detailed scenes like : street, nature full of trees and bushes etc.

I sincerely hope its software issue that can be fixed.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] *justintime*:
Low light? Its a living room with plenty (normal) light. Can't be true that a two year old LG handles better in noise.

And I did a quick shoot in the back garden and indeed what you say. When panning on a bush for instance the image shows artifacts.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
Think of grey tile floor being somewhere in between light and dark. It's somewhat low light. It might be not noise after all.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
My new project to integrate a Raspberry Pi into an old radio, shot with my U11:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] MisterKanister:
Guys, how does it handle moving subjects in artificial/lower lights? How's the blur? Stop photographing flowers and skies and stuff and try out the real master-discipline: Capture pics of your kids inside! That's what I really miss in any camera test ever... nobody tests taking pictures of unstationary "objects" inside, where due to OIS and low shutter speed, every slight motion becomes a blurry mess...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] =dave=:
really loving the cam so far
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
Spot on.:good:
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
I find that the HTC 10 OIS is far better than u11 ,, don't know if it can be fixed with a software update or no ?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] x_d_n:
It's not hugely important for most HTC flagship buyers but still I'm disappointed that the front facing camera didn't get any attention in like 99% of reviews when its flaws are so obvious.

Selfies are almost OK if shot from a full arms length (or selfie stick I guess) although compression seems way too strong. Anything closer is out of focus and you don't even have to zoom into pictures or look in a big screen to notice this.

If you ignore the mp count, the front facing camera on the M8 did a lot better and it's 3 years old.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] nebulaoperator:
As far as I know it has fixed-focus so you have a focal range where you save. Out of range and you out of focus. It might be reviewers avoid talking about front shooter for a good reason.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEndHK:
My first impression of my U11 OIS is also a bit weaker than S6 but I see it is there and working... just not as good as my expected.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
I noticed something interesting

In pic mode the camera is perfectly stable and better than the HTC 10 switch to video mode and it's like the EIS or OIS stops working , if someone else notice it , let's report to hamdir so he reports it
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEndHK:
I mainly notice the FHD/4K tuned the sharpness level way too high and looks unrealistic the result. The saturation and color temp. should lower down too in video mode during indoor environment, it's a bit over.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Digitalkarma:
watching some of these videos by supersaf

disappointed with the OIS on the video recordings. but the audio recording sounds nice in a concert setting and zoom audio works nicely

[YOUTUBE]D_gyFDfPUfo[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
belong here as well, these were my initial samples from the u11 camera

and here some more from the new 1.13.401.1 base, point and shoot, auto HDR, click for full resolution downloads

this is why i laugh at nearly every so called camera review out there (except DXO and dpreview)

https://flic.kr/s/aHskWCFTkz
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Digitalkarma:
damnn thats a beauty. love the sunset
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Have been trying to take some photos on the 11, but the weather is not cooperating.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Delete
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Some indoor shots
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] JonesWTF:
Where did you get the 1.13.401.1 base?

Might that be for EMEA single sim if you possibly have it available for download?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Huigie:
Anyone tried to film lightning? When filming I notice big white bands just before the flash: https://goo.gl/photos/HqbLKfYp4sZo7RwN6
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
I have tried before. But it seems before we see the bolt near the surface., there is already activity above, in the clouds., that is causing the diffused lighting.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
A few of the shots in the past few post are "sqeezed" shots. I luv the squeeze function. Totally not a gimmick in my opinion.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Jooosty:
I wonder if they can smoothen out the video. That's the only thing keeping me from wanting another phone. The S8 1080p60 is soooooo smooth. Gosh I'm gonna miss it.

But I just got a 6GB U11, so that's pretty neat.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
It already got released for the DUGL (Dual SIM) variant. UHL (Single SIM) will soon receive it as we'll I'd guess.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] KejPi:
I have tried to do comparison between U11 and new OnePlus5 here https://goo.gl/photos/QZxhHC7FN7dy9nNn6 and between U11, OnePlus and Galaxy S7 Edge here https://goo.gl/photos/s6NbgJAjLpMGtvzj9

All pictures are in auto mode and most of them even without pointing any object to focus on or to set exposure. It was just start camera -> shoot.

What do you think? I am still not convinced that U11 is worth the money especially if I compare it with OnePlus.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
One of the reasons why you might prefer the op is the higher saturation, but is it more representative of the scene?

The higher pixel count of the op is totally negated by its processing.

Both are screen shots of your photos.

U11 vs OP5
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Madara76:
sorry, delete please.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Thank u for the comparison. The more I am convinced that I paid good good price for my u11.. 128gb 6gb (612$)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] rom116:
Couple pics from Disneyland
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Tried again with same subjects. Sky still cloudy.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Those are pretty good photos from the OP5. Did you use HQ mode at night, or just left it all in auto mode? Night shots need to use HQ or manual mode, otherwise the noise level goes out of control.

Pixel peeping is bad. It does seem the U11 maintains better details at insane zoom levels, but overall, the photos are pretty equivalent. Some areas in the foreground actually look sharper on the OP5, but their processing is a bit nuts... looks like watercolored painting.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
Thanks a lot for your comparison :good: I also don´t really know if this camera is really that good... I compared it actually with the XZP and if you stabilize the Sony you will have really nice results in Lowlight. The main problem with the U11 is that you need high ISO. Otherwise the pictures are too dark. In "Night Mode" in Pro the pictures are always too dark. But if you use high ISO you will get noisy pictures. And if you use lower shutter speed the colours become warmer than they should. I also recognized that the OIS of the U11 isn`t really the best out there.

Can´t understand why there´s still no picture quality for Android like you will get with the Microsoft 950 or older Nokias. I will do some more comparison and then decide between Pixel, U11 or XZP.

btw. looks like a nice city where you live!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
My comparison with op5

https://goo.gl/photos/26DJ5JuV42p6RuYx6
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] KejPi:
Well, that is a really good price. In my country U11 4GB/64GB is for about 750 EUR and OP5 is 499 EUR. I am not sure the camera is worth 250EUR difference.

No HQ, I left everything in auto.

I agree, the details are better on U11 but sometimes OP5 takes better picture.

My overall impression is that U11 is better but the difference is not as significant as price difference. I am still thinking which phone I keep and not decided yet - it is more difficult decision than expected :(

---------- Post added at 09:48 ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 ----------

U11 is clear winner :)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Well yes price matters a lot.. Here were getting op5(128/8) only less than 100 usd cheaper than u11 128gb. With such small price difference u11 is really a no brainer with better camera, sdcard support, waterproofing, qhd, clear access to warranty (op5 units sold here are China origin), more original design. But with 250 EUR difference whoa thats surely a lot to think about.

I tested mostly in difficult lighting conditions as that will be the main use of my phone camera. Indoor shots are done day time with natural light coming though windows. Op5 opted for almost twice the ISO everytime compensating for the lack of ois, which combined with aggressive noise reduction resulting in smearing edges and complete loss of texture (look at the fake flower bouquet, the yellow one in the middle)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sdfsdfsfs:
wrong post
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
I really have problems in lowlight with this camera... In Automode it´s full of noise, it looks like a old phone of five years ago. And what about this OIS? It seems that it doesn´t really work in lowlight - I always have to stabilize the phone in ProMode, otherwise I get distortions immediately.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Taken today. 2 Chinese temples and 2 mosques on the same 100m street.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Small French restaurant.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
I don't care about seeing the sky....it's the same sky that we've had for centuries...give me some more food pics!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
More pix with full quality here https://goo.gl/photos/ATHVjaK637Dz5p5y6 guys if u wanna check it , I will keep updating the album with pix I shot from my 11 , most of them are auto HDR only one I guess is hdr off

So yeah enjoy it
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
Nice low-light samples, thank you! :good: Maybe you can try in some city scenes to reduce the exposure or to use lower ISO in Manual Mode. Would be great to see if the light sources are not blown out than. I guess this is a major problem of this camera and could be solved by an update.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zero2098:
The front camera shows so much noise too
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] godofpornings:
Took this picture in a moving car. Added a filter and came up with this.

Love this camera
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ticklemepinks:
What filter?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] godofpornings:
Snapseed HDR filter
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] AarSyl:
Looks like the day after tomorrow in of pic...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
all auto

IMAG0466 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] woshiweili:
Wow, that's clean!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ticklemepinks:
Super low light, I'm impressed
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] realbananA:
The front facing camera seems to be a bit grainy in low light, only thing I don't like really is how bad the stabilisation of the recodings are well walking.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
auto 12mp

IMAG0457 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] kkk121:
All on Auto mode.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Try using the manual mode (PRO) and you will be suprised! I am currently playing with both U11 and S8+ in manual mode and I swear U11 does demolish Sammy on each low light shot where exposure is > 2 seconds and ISO is 100. I will come back with examples in the next days!

Stay tuned! :)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] realbananA:
Thanks I'll give it a try
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
With a tripod, low ISO and slow shutter speed you get really nice results. But why there are no 3 seconds? Or even 4? Next step after 2 seconds is 8 seconds. Really weird. The lowest ISO is 100, no ISO 80 or ISO 50.

In evening light it can´t really capture all the reddish colours of the sky. A lot of phones have this problem. Why "HDR-Boost" isn´t working better here? And try to capture grass or forest areas in those conditions - you will have a noisy grizzle mess. The 950 is miles ahead, even in Automode. In this conditions (when it´s still bright outside but the sun is going down) the processing also kills all details of f.e. mountain structures. Like the S8 does even in the middle of the day.

In my opinion Automode is only usable in scenes with best light. To get really nice results in low light you have to use tripod and manual mode. I expected much more of this camera in Automode. When I first used a Nexus with HDR+ it was really amazing and real progress. But here? This camera is nothing special. (btw, I now have my second U11 cause I thought maybe s.th. was wrong with the camera of the first one)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
Stop complaining about the camera. I told you that you have a faulty unit.

Htc u11 has the best camera ever made
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
Haha did he really say use a tripod with this phone.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
Haha, you have to use tripod otherwise you have pictures that look like from a S5 or iPhone 4 in lowlight.

Stop doing marketing for HTC. The best camera ever made? That´s BS! And I don´t have a faulty unit cause it´s my second brand new HTC U11. And it produces the same noisy grizzled photos in Automode and scenarios that are not bright sunshine.

#EDIT: New Nokia phones by HMD will use Zeiss optics again! https://www.hmdglobal.com/press/2017-07-06-press-hmd-zeiss Bye bye, U11 :)

Here we go: Some photos of the U11 - with two others of the MS 950. http://imgur.com/gallery/p6LYQ
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
you don't know how to use the camera....best camera in the world htc u11
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
First you claimed that it´s the best camera even in Automode. Than you said I would have a faulty device. Now you tell that I wouldn´t know how to use the camera :D

All those pictures have been made in Automode... Sorry, but are you get paid by HTC? I only ask because shortly after they introduced the U11 there have been some rumor about their marketing strategies :cowboy: And I guess this hyped camera is more marketing than new or better tech.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Good! Now you've nailed it yourself with these pictures! Now to me is clear you're no HTC marketing guy but rather a very little photo knowledgeable fellow! Since you can not discern among healthy noise, image structure, details and excessive noise sublimation... well then... That's it: HTC U11 is lame! Happy now? :)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] tofupudding52:
Milky Way by YUCHEN, 於 Flickr

Pro Mode/32sec/ISO800/MF∞

Processing RAW File in Lightroom (1 frame)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] presets:
Those pictures don´t have "healthy noise", they are full of noise and grizzle. I´m talking mainly about Automode because for 749 Euro I expected a better Automode in lowlight. And there this phone has some issues. That´s all.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Where have you taken the EXIF info from?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] woshiweili:
I just got my U11 Solar Red today and it's going back. The camera can't be compared to my current phone, the Nexus 6P.

[IMG="Bright Light"]http://i.imgur.com/Q7o0yXb.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Low Light"]http://i.imgur.com/ZhLlbXl.jpg[/IMG]
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] tofupudding52:
Updated. Check again my Flickr.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Wow! Thanks a lot! Impressive!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
If you ask me, I would say the U11 pictures look better. Just look how you can see the wood grain on the table, it is not washed out and brightened like on the 6P. And what's with the second Nexus pic with the left side dark edge, that would annoy me. But you gave it a good few hours good luck with the Nexus.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
xaxaxa....Nexus 6p camera is the joke of the year

Check this out

Htc u11 auto

IMAG0155 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEndHK:
Plz stop turn this thread into a wrong direction. We generally speaking U11 is the best camera "overall" while certainly it got no the best camera phone on Earth, in some conditions we agreed other phones are performing better.

The HDR+ auto on Pixel indeed still better than the one on U11 though they are sharing similar technology but Pixel color reproduction is over saturation and U11 is more accurate so we would like to say U11 got best HDR+ in the end.

Don't try to over rate HDR+ and complaining here. It mainly handle bright and dark area better and improved details and denoise result but in real low light environment, slow shutter with a tripod is still the only way to go even it's a high-end DSLR. In other words, you said HDR+ is only doing good in good lighting condition is correct but it's wrong too bcoz I don't see any other phones doing better. If you expect HDR+ to turn U11 into a full frame DSLR, it is wrong.

U11 likes to keep just a little bit more details while maintaining noise level(even more noticeable while recording 4K video). Well, I don't know it's good or bad but personally I would suggest HTC should doing a bit more denoise.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
hdr boost

IMAG0174 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] namartlu:
Just got the phone, so far camera doing great. I tried a few low light shots in auto mode, not much noise as compared to some reported. ISO was in the low hundreds, not thousands...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
What's the easiest way to get the Flickr link for posting photos using only mobile phone?

https://flic.kr/p/Vh6K3g
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
My sleepy old dog

https://goo.gl/photos/VjdxZ6LSBtxCAFPu6

Canon g7x mark II vs u11 vs Xz premium

(had to adjust g7x II aperture to f2.8 to get his whole head in focus. Other settings r auto)
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
IMAG0303 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Full resolution images can be found at my Flickr account.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/31191230@N07/
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
After 1.16 update, shutter speed is ffassst..
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Like how fast... now is 1/8000s, or ?!
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
what is your firmware version?
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Still 1.03

Your images are very clean.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
My other dog.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Sorry not shutter speed, but no more shutter lag
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
iso=1330...taken in auto

IMAG0316 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Is anyone else experiencing a lower quality image when you send a photo in a text message? This has never happened with any other htc phone
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] altimax98:
Yeah it's got to do with MMS compression
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
Um this always happened pretty much with every phone out there. It is MMS compression, can't be sending a 16mp pic over data it would take 10 minutes.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] foxy4270:
Amazing color depth...

IMAG0334 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Anyone who's says this camera isn't good is just being a hater and trolling. It takes stunning pictures. Is it better than the pixel? I don't know. Better than Samsung and LG? Yes. There too oversharpened and saturated.

But using this camera you will never wish you had anything else
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] altimax98:
Yeah I love the camera, I just cannot wait for the shutter speed updates... I've missed so many shots of my kids that come out blurry because it didn't fire at the right moments.
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