yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Ok, so it's the battery going to be broken only (can always buy 1 to replace) & not the device. Phew.

Do I loss anything from the device? Does it goes back to factory default (ROM) without apps & data? Is there a internal battery other than removal one?

Do you mean you 'trick' your device to extend it to 6 hours from 2 hours? Software tracks time of usage from your last charge?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
There is no internal battery inside the device (Should have one to perserve time, but hp missed). But you won't lose anything because Flash memory does not lose data without power.

I use software to track the time and at the same time use my little voltage meter to measure the voltage of the batter in case of overrun. After 6 hour usage, the voltage is 3.65V, which means 10% in the normal case.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
What software you are referring to?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
My smart scrollimg is working. I checked my registry and there was no registry key like your explanataion, maybe i am lucky on install SPB PP:D:D

Thanks.:D
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Oh Ok, so the TouchFlo registry key must be inserted by some softwares... I thought it was there after hard-reset... anyone can confirm this?

So does your SPB PP refreshes the app icons in the tabs properly after soft-reset?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Certificate help

Hi Helloworld,

I want to try this free "Snap2Face" software out http://www.magnifoca.com/download_snap2face.html

But it will attempt to intall the Equifax security cert, which failed all the time, after that the program will fail connect to Facebook.

I checked under /Settings/Certificates, the Equifax cert is already there, not sure what's the difference between the one come with Snap2face.

Do you know how to install the cert successfully in your ROM? I tried to install the cert manually by downloading from the link above, still no go.

At the moment I'm using PIE with Facebook mobile site.

Thanks,

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Certification issue exist in all the WM 6.1 ROMs. The not-very-practical method to install is to use other device (WM6.0 or 5.0) installing the cert and export the registry. Then you can import this registry.

I haven't not tried myself, though.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
OK, my wife has a Samsung i320N (WM5), which I can use to do this, do you know which part of the registry key I need to export?

Thanks,

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] GraeFNZ:
Hi

It will be a key under:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\Root\Certificates

or

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\MY\Certificates

Helloworld1: Certificate import does work on NHOCBANME's build 19400 wm6.1 rom so maybe MS fixed it in the later build.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Munyuk81:
I think there some compatibility problem, can't install call sms blocker on this rom.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Thanks for the reply.

So are you saying certificate import won't work on b142?

Thanks,

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] GraeFNZ:
Sorry for any confusion. I meant the Certificate import by clicking on a .cer certificate file works in NHOCBANME rom but not Helloworld1 rom.

Import via registry key will work on b142.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Thank you for confirming that. I'm gonna have a go and see.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Seems MS fixes this in later build. I have built a 19588-based clean rom (built at about 1 months ago), but I haven't released it because I don't think it is stable enough. If somebody want to test, please let me know.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Yes the icon is show properly. I ever had problem like you, the icon of app show like unassociate file or .dll file on b45 and b110 ROM, but the problem is gone on b142.

MY problem is only, why M$ build a ROM that automatically close an app if the memory is low, why they don't use file cache on storage:confused::confused:. I ever loss tab on IE or run app. And because of that i use opera to visit this Forum.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Will the future Clean ROM be based on the latest build? or the current build?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Sounds like a hard-reset and fresh re-install is the way to go, but I will wait till the next update from Helloworld before doing so.

I'm using Netfront browser, as good as Opera, although it's in public beta trial (expire in mid August) unlike Opera it can be installed on external storage.

Thanks.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
There are Opera mobile 9.5 extracted version that works on storage card. I personally prefer opera mini because its layout is good.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Have you tried to disable the security policies (using my cab batch install) and then install the certificates?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
No, I have not tried it. I will give it a go.

edit: so what you are saying is that your cab batch install will disable the security policies, then click the .cer to install certificate?

edit2: Ok, I tried it, it didn't work :( installed your cab batch install, disable security, then batch install the Snap2face app, but at the end it is still reported certificate install failed, i did this again by soft-reset my device while the security is disabled, same result, try manually click on the .cer file, failed. Hmm...

edit3: How good is Samsung Pen? Simplify or Traditional Chinese hand writing recognition? I am trying to re-learn the language.

Thanks.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Samsung Pen is good and free. It can reconize frequently used characters very accurately. Simplified and Traditional are both supported.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
USB sync to 2 computers

Using original WM5 I was able to USB sync to 2 computers (office & home) but

not now

. WM6.1 or b142 or something else?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Resolved. Uninstall & reinstall Windows Mobile Device Center
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] naset:
hmmm...can i know how to upgrade the radio that using *.mot file?

i must flash the rom again by replacing *.mot in RUU or what?if i must flash again,what a mess. :(

thanks in advance. :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Full reflashing is the only method I know working , but there are some non-working methods.

rename to "mot.mot" and put it in root of sd card then flash it. But it never works.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
1st PC : XP w/ ActiveSync4.5

2nd PC : Vista w/ Windows Mobile Device Center (need to reinstall before it works)

When sync back with 1st PC, Support Code : 86000107 :(

https://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1823006&SiteID=65

Very frustrating & workaround is temporary or limit the sync item. WM5 was perfect.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] naset:
thx helloworld for the expanation.so,i must full reflash the phone.gosh..

btw,my rw6828 radio reception was sux...i think it is useless...
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Yes the radio is not stable in 6828, updating it won't help.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
M$ should release a patch through win update. Anyway , I will keep up with M$'s new AKU(Now stable version is 1.1, beta version is 1.3).
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wach2006:
Sim manager doesn't work

I updated rom v101 but Sim manager function doesn't work.. it can't up load My Sim contact list so How can I do?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
dude 1 help from u?? plz reply

do u remember u had uploaded KumaranWM6.1Final for Hp rw6828

after aii install dat ExtRom.cab file am nt able to install it half it installs n den it say it cannot b installed pl help
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] naset:
i need a help..:(
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] naset:
@helloworld1

sorry for bothering u,but i think maybe u know how to solved my problem..

im using nhocbanme's wm6.1 19400 rom.the problem is when i listen to music using headphones on pocket music or other music player,the volume very low eventho the volume is 100%..

To make the volume louder,i must open ipaq audio and adjust the setting(bass or treble or 3d). After i close the ipaq audio,then i stop/pause the music and play again,it become slow again...and i must do the steps again to make it louder..

Do u know y helloworld1?maybe the ipaq audio not compatible with wm6.1 rom?If yes,how do i remove it?

Thanks in advance. :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
you can downland another sim manager in this forum.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I have never uploaded Kumara's rom. If extrom.cab is not working, you can extract the cab file using tools like msinf and copy files to the root directory. If you can not copy some files, just skip it!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Yes it is not compatible with 6.1 rom very well . Why do you want to remove it? It won't interfere you installing SRS and It is only a control panel interact with wavedev.dll.

If you feel bad about that, you can extract his rom and delete audiocpl.cpl.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] naset:
i want to remove it bcoz i think without ipaq audio,my problem will solved maybe?

i always use my ipaq to listen music,so a bit annoying for me.

btw,thx helloworld1 :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
Dude wer ll aii get dis tool??

n b4 dat extrom.cab file was geting installed y do u think its nt installing nw..????

man u had uploaded loong bak it is WM6 kumaran.....

wateva wer ll aii get d tool to extract dos cab files....

"What aii did was it got installed in SD card aii copied dos fies to root folder but still camera was not working..."
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I don't quite understand your words. You can extract using this tool:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2392584&postcount=1085

And put the _QHiddenPartition to the root dir. Then Do a soft reset, the camera should work. If it is still not working. Do a hard reset and redo the whole thing.

I haven't used kumura's ROM so I don't know this problem.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
You won't get your audio lauder by removing ipaq audio because It is just a control panel. By removing it, the volume will stay very low as it was.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
dude aii remember u had uploaded Kumaran ROM der is no other thread havin dat ROM aii clearly remember...!!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
great tool ai halready had dis tool on Atom Kitchen :D
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
helpz soon plz

same problem aii did as u tld extracted extrom.cab

u c QHiddenPartition and rw68xx_ExtROM_emul.inf files aii copy dem and past it in root folder except newlbt.bin all gets copied then i soft reset the pda still camera is not working
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Are you using 6828/18 or 6815?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] taufancandra:
is there any compatibility problem with spb mobile shell & resco explorer?

Hallo helloworld,thank you very much with your ROM. you are a great person. last time i use b95 rom. and now,I have just tried your b142 roms. there are so many great improvements,thank you very much. but when I want to install resco explorer 2008, it comes with message "old settings found.do you want to overwrite? choose yes or no." whatever I do comes with unsatisfied result, resco explorer unsuccessfully installed. i have reflashed with same rom and try with different version, ex: resco explorer 2007, but always the same result. finally i decide to left resco explorer and begin to use total commander.

another same problem presents when I want to install spb mobile shell 2.1. Installation is successfull, but the system become freeze/give no response. when I soft-reset the device, boot process become much slower and the system always give no response. then I tried to reflashed again and install another version of spb mobile shell 2.0/2.1, but it always come with same result.

now, choose not to install spb mobile shell.

can you give me some advices so I can use resco explorer and spb mobile shell again in your last rom?

thank you very much
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I am now using resco explorer 7.03 and it works very well.

I have just installed SPB mobile shell and tested it. It won't slow down the boot process but slows down the start menu speed. Also it didn't freze the device in my little test. Sorry I can't reproduce your problem.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Hi,

I am using both Resco Explorer 7.02 and Mobile Shell 2.1 and Pocket Plus 4 (with some components disabled), all running perfect on 6828!

Is your device 6828? I have all the above installed on device memory, not on SD-card though.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Hi hellowordl1,

before yesterday, I used push mailn with schedule only every 5mnt, then i tried schedule "as items arrive" and without marked the option "send/recieve when i sent recieved", i sent an email from another mail addressy and the email didn't come until 20mnt. Maybe it same with kusanagi,s problem.

i try on my wife HTC and it's work.

i use free mail exchane at mail2web.com.

Is this problem only on my device or you too?

:) thanks.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Hi,

This may be a network/carrier issue? I figured that sometimes email arrives quicker and other times take ages.

For some reason I felt that the wm6/6.1"Push Email" is not as instantaneous as wm5 HP ROM... may be M$ has changed something?

I am using the same mail2web as well, and I pay the monthly personal account to have my email alias, very convenient.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
@hellowworld

am using 6828 n aii figured d problem after aii extract d files to d root aii hav to hard rest d device nw my device working 5n....

do u hav Hp ipaq audio software..soo ai can add in dat..???
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
I'm using SPB Mobile Shell without any issue. Install from PC onto Device. If you tried SD I don't advise so since it will be your primary interface.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
M$ recommends using exchange server 2007 not 2003 with whitch MAIL2WEB used. ;)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Did you mean that it is working?

Ok, HP's Ipaq audio have 2 files:

audio.cpl

ipaqutils.dll

You can extract from HP's original ROM. If you can not do that. I will upload it for you days later if you notify me through PM.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wallaceff:
Just a few quick questions to Helloworld1 ... I'm using a very old ROM and considering flashing my device soon, but there's the whole hastle of reinstalling all the apps again, so I want to put it off as long as possible.

Are you planning on releasing a new ROM soon as I'm reading about some problems here and there?

Also, I note there's newer 'core' versions or builds (or whatever MS calls them these days) available for the Atom. Do they offer anything more? Is there any reason to update your rom to one of those? Are you looking into it?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
yaa dude aii extracted it to d root folder den Hard reset d fone....its working out 5n..nywayz thnx fer d support :D okiee aii try to exract iPAQ audio frm WM5 ROm...
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
SMS thread

Is there a way to delete selected SMS from the Inbox? I can delete selected SMS from Sent Item but can't figure out how from the Inbox. I intend to continue using the SMS thread if the suggestion is to disable it.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
man go to u settings u'll get dat sms thread disable option!!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
I don't wish to disable but selectively delete SMS from the Inbox only.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
k goo to d conversation ui wanna delete n hold on it delete itn simple yaar
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Are You Sure about it? I tried your suggest but cann't delete the selected conversation.

your suggestion only work if you want to delete convetsation with selected person, and you will delete all imbox and sent item with that petson.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] prash0715:
wait tell me what exactly u wanna do .......dude...???!!!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Of course you can delete a certain sms. Open a conversation, press up/down button and make the sms blue, then menu->delete.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Thx helloworld1. You are the one at the same frequency ;). All the while I was using the stylus. Thanks again.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] andrechua:
Thanks and how to remove Cyberion Voice Commander

Hi helloworld1,

You have given new life to my rw6828. This is truly an amazing work and you've singlehandedly done what HP wouldn't do for it's hundred thousands of customer.

I've been using your b142 build for a week now and haven't encountered any issue. Everything seems to be working perfectly. Love my unit now with all the crap gone and a new OS to boot.

My "only" preference issue is with Cyberion Voice Commander (CVM) as I prefer to us MS Voice Command instead. If you remove it, it will give your user a choice on which app they prefer ... then we can call you ROM "extremely" clean. :-D

Alternately, can you provide some guide on how to remove CVM? I've manage to make a ROM dump of your b142 build using prepare_imgfs.exe and make_imgfs.exe but am lost in what changes to make and files to remove? Since you had remove CVM in you earlier builds, can you help out here.

BTW, a little something on the way. Not much but hope it's enough to buy a cup of coffee? :-D

Thanks. You're the MAAAAANNNNNN!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Yes, CVM is no use for me at all. I add it just for the completion of the ROM. It take about 2.5M of the rom space preventing me adding dotnet CF 3.5 and sqlce 3.5. Is it worthy to continue add this in the later release, I wonder? Maybe a pedition is necessary.

Also thanks very much for your coffee. Hope it will also bring me some good luck for tomorrow's GRE writing test.

Voice Commaner files:

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 9.1K 2008-01-15 20:56 AudioGain.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16K 2008-01-15 20:56 BSRTTSCom0.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 24K 2008-01-15 20:56 CyberonPlugin.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28K 2008-01-15 20:56 CYBGSM.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 32K 2008-01-15 20:56 DatabaseMgr.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 73K 2008-01-15 20:56 Digit.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 223K 2008-01-15 20:56 LexMgrDLL.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 164K 2008-01-15 20:56 TTS0.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 391K 2008-01-15 20:56 TTSData0.bin

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35K 2008-01-15 20:56 TTSData0.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9.1K 2008-01-15 20:56 TTSMgr.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 74K 2008-01-15 20:56 VCDaemon.exe

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2008-01-15 20:56 VCDaemon.lnk

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 338 2008-01-15 20:56 VCDynamic.ini

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39K 2008-01-15 20:56 VC.htm

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-01-15 20:56 VC.lnk

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 21K 2008-01-15 20:56 VCSettingCPL.cpl

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21K 2008-01-15 20:56 VCStatic.ini

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 115K 2008-01-15 20:56 VCWave.dll

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 108K 2008-01-15 20:56 VocabSetting.exe

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 114K 2008-01-15 20:56 VoiceCommander.exe

-rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 32 2008-01-15 20:56 VoiceCommander.lnk

-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 286K 2008-01-15 20:56 VSRDLL.dll

Is it necessary to reatain Cyberon Voice Commander from HP in the next release? How about restore dotnet CF 3.5 or SQL CE 3.5 in the next release?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
i will release a minor update recently so you can wait a little.

also i always try out the newest build of ms's or oem build and here i lists some that i have tried and my experience.

xip;

19199-- kaiser's first build. some bugs but very stable.

19202-- ms's emulator version. slow but stable

19212-- kaiser's stable build. non-compatible.

19400-- beta rom.

19588-- diamond's build. not very stable. faster.

19591-- diamond's new build. same as above.

19900-- beta rom. very fast. stability ok.

19949-- [my current used] china mobile device used. stability ok and very fast.

20202-- not tested.

20226-- fake one. slow. stable.

20270-- maybe a fake one. slow. stability unknown.

20273-- Fast one.

sys;

19199-- buggy but stable.

19202-- slow and stable. high compatability.

19212-- very stable.

19214-- [my current used]kaiser's new build. very stable and compatibility is very high.

19588-- with copyright year 2008. seems faster but the compatability is very low.

19949-- fake one. no wwe sys released.

20202,20226-- beta sys.

20270-- from bepe's rom. buggy.

20273-- from imobile.tw. much fast and less buggy than 20270

my next release will still be based on xip19949 and sys19214. if you have great interest. i can give you a 19588 one. also i can upload a rom with 20270 xip.

these are all my personal experience on these xip and sys. if you feel sick about my comment, please close this tab.:D
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wach2006:
Hi

Could you suggest me which one?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] javacom:
thank again..... mapking 2007 work good

my rw6828 have new life, last time very slow......:p

im using mapking 2007 work ................:p

with my GPS....( HULUX )

THANK YOU !
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wallaceff:
Ok. Now I see the difficulty you have putting a cooked rom together.

I guess newer is not better from what you're saying.

Do you think its worth starting a new thread, with a combination of the above xip and roms you've suggested, and try and get everyone to leave feedback as to what does/doesn't work. I'm not asking you to support each bug in those roms, but that way, the community can flash away and report back? This threat is getting VERY long... and if you're releasing a new rom... well, a new thread would help!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I have made a fix in the new version of the rom. You can wait a day or two so that I can do more test.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Other people will handle these new versions. I don't have enough energy and time to do so. But I will try other people's new versions out and find my personal best. I want to concentrate on a stable core and make small fixes.

Also, the difference of all these versions are only speed, compatability, available memory, minor bugs and version numbers, that means no user interface changes, no new features.

I have planed to start a new thread, but what should I do other than copy the content of this thread? Maybe I would release WM7 in a new thread:cool: (I never promise that WM7 will work on 6828). I will only collect useful information in this thread and put it in the first and second thread.