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[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
yeah, your battery last a bit longer than mine.

I never bought my battery, it the original HP battery that came with my 6828 when I bought it new, so it's 2 years old now.

When I think about it, your 6828 and mine are running on the same ROM, so I can say that hardware wise they are identical, so they should perform exactly the same, that said my battery can be as good as yours or just about as good as anyone, the only variations are battery age and the radio strength in the location where the phone is used, and the installed softwares.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Of course on WM. I wonder if MS provides free tools for developing.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Try this one to extract all the content out of a cab file. After opening the file, press the "XML" button and the "Extract" then "Extract ALL".

My battery life with push mail is 7.5 hr for 20%. It can last for more than one day with push mail on. I remembered that on wm6.0, it is about 1 hr for 2% - 3%, which uses less power.

For my OEM battery, it is so bad that it can only last 2 hr when powered on because I have drained out the battery for several time, that would seriously damage the battery.

Anyway, I think 6828 is not overkilled. See, the performance of wm 6.1 is much batter than wm5. It may even run wm7 according to the leaked M$'s reference hardware.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Thanks for the file, however I thought this is going to extract .exe into .cab? As you probably know, I am using a Mac, therefore with .exe installer I'll have to borrow someone's Windows box, very inconvenient.

BTW, do you have any issues with WM5storage with your latest ROM? The copy of Softick Card Export trial version is going to expire in 6 days, I am reluctant to spend anymore money...

Thanks,

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
That app extracts the files out of a cab file. If you want cab package of a app, please make a list and I will send you what I have.

If you need to extract a cab out of a packed exe file, the best practice is using windows to install that app again and before confirming the location to install, copy the cab file out of /windows/appmgr/appinstall

Wm5torage is working very well on my device. Maybe I am lucky without encountering all your problems. But the bad thing is that I can not reproduce your problems.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] thab63:
GPRS not connecting

Hi Helloworld1,

I flash to b142 and find that GPRS not connecting, I have also soft reset many times, but without results.

I was on b135, GPRS is connecting well.

Hmmm..I may have to go back to b135.

Anybody have the same problem.

Cheers
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] xudsa II USERT:
Can I use any DSUU, use the addheader.jar to your ROM and rename it to disk_ver.nb0?

PS:I'm quite a dummy.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
try use htc configurator, you can find the link in the first page
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Of course not, it only works for atom/pure/exec/ and HP 6818/28/15.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] thab63:
OK Thanks BesFen, I will try to use the configurator.

.

I also stumbled on one of the file, that is Radio.zip.

I think it is supposely to upgrade from radio 0.33 to 0.34, correct me if I am wrong.

1. My radio is still on 0.33, should I need to upgrade and what is the advantage

2.I have download the Radio zip file, After unzipping there are two files, what should I do.

Help needed, BesFen or anyone

Thanks
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Refer to 2nd thread on the 1st page. There are 2 version of DSUU. 1 which you can choose what to flash & the other need not. REMEMBER either 1 will require certain file(s) together in C:\Windows\Temp folder before flashing. Good Luck.

PS : Suggest using PCUpdate (also from 2nd thread)

1. BufferAddHeader work faster than AddHeader

2. This version of DSUU require 4 missing files
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
The safest method to upgrade radio is using hp's official update package with patched hp's ruu.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] thab63:
Helloworld1,

I am now on b142,

So I have to downgrade to WM5, upgrade radio thru HP update package, then I flash back to b142 again ?

In your opinion is it worth the upgrade ( radio 0.33 to 0.34).

Thanks
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Yes.

I think I have posted what is new with 0.34 radio. It is not worthy because the changes are very unimportant. If you do not have problems with the current, do not update it.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Hi,

Yes correct, upgrade through HP update package, but you must replace the hpRUU.zip found in first page, just follow the instruction on page 1.

It is not worth the hassle to upgrade, but I have done it myself so I can stop thinking about it. The radio upgrade didn't make any difference really.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] thab63:
OK , Thanks Guys

I am staying put then.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] xudsa II USERT:
Thanks for replying, but what i mean't was that if i could use like NHOCBANME's DSUU package, replacing the diskimage_ver.nb0 with yours after running addheader.jar and renaming it to diskimage_ver.nb0.

Thanks :)

PS:I followed your steps at the "How to flash from PC with Windows XP (It is ok to run it in vmware)" but it did'nt tell me what to download at the second paragraph step 1! So i asked about this.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
hai helloworld...

I want ask to u, when I use wi-fi. n my battery low & automatically shut down. because the batery empty. i'ts means the wifi in on condition.when I charged my ipaq.and I turn it on.the icon of wifi is there & when my wifi I turn it of.the icon is there never hide/blank or change to gprs/egde symbol.just like connected wifi icon.

what must I do? even I replaced the batery or I reset I do not effect it. I hope u understood what I means.

or I must hard reset?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
If you read on the first page, this is one of the bug exists on all 6828 ROMs, the wifi is turned on by itself upon reset in some rare occasions, to fix it, all you need to do is soft-reset and hope/pray it doesn't turn on by itself again, just keep doing the soft-reset thing.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
pcupdate.zip should contain all the things needed.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Cab batch install release!

My first release of cabbatchinstall is out. It is in the very first stage of development but it should be useful helping you install a bunch of cab files.

Get it from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2402369
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] 1ucio:
Hi guys,

I flashed my 6828 ROM to the lastest 20080701b142 and i experienced poor response or no response from the storage card occasionally. Sometimes it will even lead to making the device freeze :eek: . Soft reset doesnt help either.:(

Anyone experience the same issue with me or is there a problem with my storage card? I got no issue with previous WM5.. Should i flash my rom to 200806146110 since its recommended?

Appreciate all advice.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] 1ucio:
Just found a temporary solution.. that is to remove the storage card while doing a soft reset and plug in after the device started.

So far so good. Will carry on to monitor.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
I have 3 different miniSD cards here all no problems at all, fast and responsive, may be it's your card? try and different one and see.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
that problem i know.but my problem is the wifi not on after reset just the icon displayed.and even i reset it or replaced the battery is not affect it.and when i turn it on/off the wifi the icon beside signal icon it shown conneted wifi.even i conneted the active sync.but the wifi can turn it on or off.just the icon beside the signal.i hope u understand what i mine with my bad english.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Umm... I think I barely understand...

First what exactly is your device? 6828?

From what I can understand is that the "wifi connected" icon is displayed regardless of the wifi is actually on or not?

Second, is the blue LED flashing? can you test after hard-reset? or too much trouble for you?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
I ever had this problem, it happened if there is a FAT error or bad sector in the storage card, try to format it in PC, don't use ppc because it doesn't fix the card error.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] 1ucio:
Hi,

I tried formatting it in pc fat 32 still the same.. or shld i try ntfs or fat.

Thx!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Seems like your card is not compatible with new sdhc drivers in my roms.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
yes my device 6828.. if we turn it on and the wifi conneted the will show u.if no active wifi router the icon will be different with the other one. the wifi is off. the blue led is no flashing. yes i test it, and not affected it. no other trouble, just i confusing why the icon not change if when turn off the wifi.

acctually i want to show the picture but i don't know how to upload it. i'm just newbie
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
You can attached images by scrolling down to the bottom when you post a reply, and look for "Attach Files" box and click on the "Manage Attachments" button.

As far as I know and what I can (may be not) understand from your question, the wifi icon on windows task bar should not be there when turn off, after turn on the antenna animation will appear and attempt to connect, animation become static depends on it is actually connected or not.

If what you are saying the wifi icon doesn't change regardless of the state of the wifi (on or off or connected), I don't have this problem with b142 and you are the only one who reported it, so I am not sure what is going wrong here, to the last resort, may be you can try re-flash b142 ROM and see, but please proceed with caution when flashing.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Hi Helloworld,

Another addition to the bug list... In "One Note" program, the "Take Picture" doesn't invoke the camera, so I'll say no applications can call for the camera.

BTW, I finally reinstalled SPB PP after I got sick of the MS, it seemed to worked OK on this b142 so far, BUT I couldn't enable the "smart scroll" regardless what, I have installed PP from an XP machine with the "smart scroll" feature enabled (or ticked), but it didn't work, do you know why and how?

The SPB PP consume so much memory, and it is so slow... :( any good suggestions for SPB PP substitute?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] 1ucio:
I'm using the Kingston card.. hmm seems that something is wrong with my card.

Guess that i got to get another new card.

Thx to all for the replies.!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
What sickness from MS. Getting your advice since you are a heavy user.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Using either AddHeader or BufferAddHeader found inside PCUpdate.zip from 1st thread (strongly recommended) will automatically generate diskimage_Ver.nb0 from diskimg.nb0 for flashing via PC. No renaming required at all.

Yes, you can then copy diskimage_Ver.nb0 over to NHOCBANME's DSUU package or vice versa.

helloworld1 : Suggest to package the missing file(s) into PCUpdate.zip or separately.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Sorry for bringing you in then leaving you behind :p

Nothing really, there's no known issues with the MS for me, but it just the way the program is layout and organise things are not quite suitable for me, I want FAST access to programs, no more than 3 button presses, with MS I found that I have to go through many spinning cubes, sliding effects to get to an app. While it is nice to see the special effects, but I got annoyed at the times when I had to get to certain things very quickly, it really depends on individual, so you may find yourself like it.

Helloworld please read too:

I'm now back to SPB PP, see my previous post, I have just encountered a problem where PP changed or defaulted many program icons to a generic one, see attachment, I dunno why, but reduce the icon to small then enlarge again will bring back the original icon, very annoying, that didn't happen before on b39. Anyone got clues?

I have so far tried SPB PP, MS, Vito Winterface, and Pointui. I found that:

(1) PP is my favorite so far, but has many glitches on b142/wm6.1, and very bloated and slow.

(2) MS, it works but... can be much better, has many beautiful skins.

(3) Winterface, a bit premature, but definitely has potential, I will keep an eye out for this one.

(4) Pointui, extremely smooth and responsive, but badly organised, program list just doesn't work, kinetic scroll nice but you will find yourself scrolling pass what you need and have to scroll back and forth... very very bad if you are doing this as you walk.

There are many more options out there which I haven't tried yet, anyone got good recommendations?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I know onenote can not invoke camera but you can no say no app can. At least "Pictures & Videos" can invoke camera.

Smart scroll is working fine on my device.

SPB PP is not so slow if you configure it proper. Generally speaking, do not use system info indicator like memory card and etc. I uses only battery indicator. Also "Smart Scroll", "Buttons" and "Safe Mode" are disabled on my device.

A soft reset will help you out if the icon cans not load proper. Also maybe these app are in card, insert the card in and soft reset.

SPB should update the program so that it get compatible better with 6.1 ROMs.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
That was my experience, and I think Pcitures & Videos has a direct camera call button (soft key)which you can start the camera directly, but with MMS and Onenote which has the "Insert" photo or video from camera, this feature doesn't work. So I was only suspecting this is a system wide bug (hence suspecting any apps that use the "insert" call to the camera won't work), but of course you're the programming guru here while I am just a user, so your correction is more than welcome :)

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
I change a Today shortcut's icon to one SPB's in small state and enlarge it. It is ok. Then I shrink it to small, the icon does not revert to original icon as your described.

Screenshot of my spb usage:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Will you help me pack it? You can upload the packed one that work well on your computer. Thanks.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
MS is generous enough for people to crack their OS like Windws or Windows Mobile easily.

MS is evil enough to use their generous for people to develop dependency on their Windows or Office.

MS is good enough to promise increasing UI and performance as well as battery consumption in the new OS.

MS is bad enough to fulfil its promise.

MS is kind enough to cooperate with open source.

MS is monsterous enough to absorbing code from open source making them properity.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
So what you are saying is you have the same generic app icon problem as well?

From what I learn from googling around, it seems that PP is loaded before the SD card, so all apps residing on the Storage Card gets a generic icon, hmm...

K

edited: OK, as it turned out, the generic icons seems to be random, that even happened to program from the ROM!! I have a generic FM Radio icon now... hmm... However a quick refresh on the tabs fixes that, hold stylus on tab, select For All Items, then Refresh Tabs.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Is that a poem?

I think the "MS" hochengsoon referred to as Mobile Shell, not M$ :D

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
No worries... Agree with you needing more buttons to get to certain apps & some appear more than 1 place but nevertheless will stick on to it.

Few issues. Have you come across them & how do you get over it.

1. Sync weather over cradle. Already remove the tick for Auto Update.

2. How to remove duplicated buttons.

3. Apps launch differs from the button. How to edit buttons.

4. Sometimes instead of exiting to MS, it went back all the way to Today screen.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Hi, I don't have MS running on my device now, so I have to rely on my gold fish memory to answer your questions.

(1) I don't sync with cable or cradle, since I don't have a Windows PC, only via mobile network or wifi, so I have no clue, but why does it matter to sync while in the cradle?

(2) Duplicated buttons? I didn't have any of that, I believe MS pulled the app links from start menu as you installed it, so try remove the shortcut .lnk reside in windows/start menu/programs to see, don't delete the .lnk files, just move it somewhere to save yourself from recreating it.

(3) This unfortunately is quite complex and is beyond my league, there are talks on this xda forum somewhere in the SPB Skinning section, do a search for it.

(4) When exiting a program it should drop back to the screen where it was started, and I don't have that issue, if I started the app on today screen, when exit, I'll get dropped back to today screen, the same for MS screen. Try enable the start MS when device wake up to see if it helps.

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
i have attached the pic, the circle with red mark.that icon means. that icon even i turn off.that picture i made after i hard reset.and i just want report and asking,is that bug or not.because i must hard reset it
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
You said that you take the screen shot after hard reset. But it seems like you restore the backup file or something.

The icon displays and the wireless manager tells that you have connected an AP. Does wifi works with the wifi settings in "settings"?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hochengsoon:
Yeah, I was referring to Mobile Shell but this is a good one helloworld1. Maybe should post in on your 1st thread :D

Will re-package PCUpdate later. Busy reformatting my notebook HD.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] danial7903:
Contact Problems

I have flashed my rom to the latest version WM6.1 20080701b142 on my HP6828. But I can't open my contacts even I have installed the PocketCM on my HP as well. The contacts just flash once and disappear.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Yes, I forgot that the correct spelling is M$.

I have found a GPRS related bug in all my roms. When I leave GPRS connected but idle for a long time. It will eventually lose connection with small "E" on. At that case, I can not get connected again. It pop up the error " cannot dial for unknown reasons". A soft reset will cure this.

This happens frequently when the signal is not stable.

Workaround: Disconnect the GPRS when you have finished internet surfing. Or use a program like "Direct Push" mail to keep the GRPS alive.

Fixes: Beyond my skill at this moment because all other people's rom I have tested have this problem too. And there is some fruitless discussion about the problem.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] xudsa II USERT:
Awesome, I finally found my way to your cool ROM! I used NHOCBANME'S(R) DSUU replaced the diskimage_ver.nb0 with yours after using addheader.jar. But im sorry but i dont have Vouqie's problem. wished I could help.

Good Job!:)

PS:Sorry for trouble!:rolleyes:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
no, i hard reset & i install again my program. acctually i want to backup use sprite backup.but sprite backup won't backup my pda.so i just hard reset n reinstall my program.and that icon back to normal.

before i do the hard reset,that icon won,t change even i do soft reset & turn on and off the wifi.the wifi can on & off normally just the icon won,t change.so i do the hard reset.& it back to normal again.i hope u understand what i mine.

is that bug? it happen when my battery empty & my pda turn off automactically.and when i charging it and i turn on my pda the icon won't change even the wifi is off.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] danial7903:
Hi helloworld1,

Any workaround on my problem? Thanks!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] xudsa II USERT:
Hi Danial7903, did you try reinstalling pocketCM?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] danial7903:
Yes. I have tried reinstalling the rom three times today. But the same problem occurred.

The rom is really good rom, but unable to open, browse your contact defeat the purpose of having a good rom... please help
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Maybe your wifi firmware corrupts. I suggest you goto:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...6563-1&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=1839223

download the HP's radio update file and replace the exe file with hpruu attached in the first thread. Do a full update to this HP's WM5 ROM and then use SD card to update to my rom.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Is PocketCM not working or the build-in contacts not working?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
I don't think I have encountered this, I use push mail during the day, and at night I set it to manual fetch every 60mins, and reception in my area isn't good at all. May be I'm connecting G and not E?

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
You are using push mail so the gprs will keep alive but if you leave your device without any gprs service for a long long time and eventually the gprs will automatically but abnormally disconnect. Not really a serious bug.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Isn't 60mins sync internal long enough? may be i can do a test over the weekend when i don't need any emails :)

Anyway, some odd things have happened in the past, it's not surprising that this happened, I have had spb pp battery meter not updating on the today plugin, but somehow it is now working after a few re-installings, hmm...

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
This happens only once on my device with b135 rom and never again after soft reset.

I think you can test it when you sleep in weekends. 60 min is a short to make this emerge. set push schedule manual and connect gprs then sleep. After you wake up try to reconnect if the connection drops or browser web if not.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] voquie:
can u teach me one by one step? because i not realy understand..is that can because break the ipaq. i scare about it.because i'm just newbie one.thx for your help.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] danial7903:
Actually the build-in contacts that is not working. But i found out somewhere in the forum that one of the workarounds is by installing the PocketCM to override the build-in contacts.

PocketCM doesn't solve the problem.

Thanks
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Have you ever updated rom using HP's official updates?

It is nearly the same as HP have stated in the website.

But one thing you need to notice is that you need to replace the RUU file because the official update file will say something about "incompatible".

It is not dangerous to use official updates but more dangerous than flashing my rom :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] helloworld1:
Build-in is not working :confused:

So you mean it is not working after restoring backup? Did you restore backup using Activesync?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
I had this problem too. At the first time i knewit, i think it happend because the tranfer rate is slow, but if i use periodically push mail, the problem is gone.:)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
I used Pimbackup to restore my contact list and it work fine, what the app do you use to restore your contact list? did you use activesyn?:confused: