yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstuart83:
Ive created a monster

when i started this thread i didn't realize that it was gonna cause so much drama. It was really suppose to be an informative thread and general discussion but it turned into a criticism thread. and as for whose testing who I'm sure dutty has his reasons for who he trusts You wouldn't let a stranger drive your Lamborghini he probity knows the people he picks or least recognizes them as long time members or they have donated to him either way its his decision, and i think this subject needs to be droped ,any way for every body who gave great informative input to the upcoming wonder, it is greatly appreciated
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Charlie1618:
Agreed...

So, back to the topic, are there any further updates or changes to v4 we can't have? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstuart83:
lock this forum

moderator please lock the thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
really no need to lock. just a little tension.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nicholasendean:
concerns

I don't know if it is just my imagination, but some people seem to be taking this rom update a little "too" seriously. It IS a rom update after all!

Policing the forums is one thing but kicking off at every turn whenever someone speaks out is taking things a little too far.

It used to be really cool being a part of this site and although I stop by regular and support it when I can, I wonder if I am the only one who has slight growing concerns as to where it is now going.

Nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gimini:
and while your at it ip ban rquinn19 make him find dutty's V4 on his own.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
very well put.:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
If you are not getting the device till feb then why bother downloading a BETA ZIP file....that you have no password for let alone no device to put it on.

May I return the question back to you...ARE YOU RETARDED??? :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstuart83:
i don't see this stopping

i would like for it to stay open but i don't want anybody's feelings to get hurt

everybody on this forum has some bit of knowledge that can help somebody else but it would be a shame if you have a problem and the person you upset knows the answer and wont tell you because of a comment. i thank its better to close it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
* Chainfire gets some more popcorn
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gimini:
so... is the cube included in this rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
To get reaction from people like you, who always trying to inflame others.

Be nice and kind. You are new at this place. No need to preach to others and/or try to inflame others.

Kind regards,

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
me too - im done trying to cool things off - save me a seat chainfire, im going to get a beer and some popcorn myself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Charlie1618:
*Sits down with Chainfire and offer's a Coke for some popcorn*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
Haha,

I would settle for some beer and popcorn too! :)

Thanks,

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] j.a:
Sits down next to Chainfire, Charlie1618 & P1Tater and offers some Milk Duds & Sour Patch candy.

Any of that coke or beer left?!?!?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Charlie1618:
*Offers KOR a Coke for fanning the flames* :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
Thanks mate! :D

Coke is it, then!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
see we all can get along - LMAO
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
@ KOR.

I was not flaming you and I believe the flaming started when YOU questioned MY mental capacity...to which I childishly reltaliated... I will be the grown up and apologise.

I was initially pointing out that people should wait for the official release and used your post as proof of the impatience of some people. I did not mean you to take it as a flaming.again I apologise if you took it that way.

Anyway...back to the topic... I hope ver 4 brings us all that we want.

KOR, Despite me being a noob....if you want to sit and grab a beer and popcorn whilst watching this thread together and get aquainted, then mine is a pint of Bitter please...oh and don't forget the crisps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] itje:
no, your not.

Buts its been like that 4 a long time, but most ppl acting like this, leave because of all the "retards" that dont see things the way they do...

We had some serious attitude problems with ppl over at the herald forums some time back, but they left....:)

"choking on a popcorn" :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
Thanks mate,

A pint of bitter and some crisps for our English cousin.

Thanks and welcome to XDA forum. You are a kind person, would love to be acquainted with you.

Best regards,

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Someone asked about the cube earlier. In Dutty's v3 thread this is what he stated;

v4 changelog so far

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This is the changelog for v4 so far

Duttys DualTouch v4 Changelog

17 January 2008

16:55

New Build Taken from Polaris 18129.0.4.5

Updated Htc Touch Keyboard supporting contact input in New MMS

HTC Touch keyboard now adds your own word to Dictionary

MMS app Remains the same in the polaris Rom which is MMS/SMS

Much Improve and faster than ever Touch Cube really amazing how fast this cube runs

All Office related files are now in Office mobile in Start Menu

Default right button to contacts as Endkey is now mapped to Red button.

Removed tcpmp + video sites this wil be available as cab so to save space and can be installed to storage

Added HTC Tool Gps Tool

Added FM Radio STILL not working but left in rom for testing

Added Shaps Advance Config v2.

Lots of important registry tweaks to improve this rom and applications

Improve Battery Performance

Sip Change runs on start up for user to select keyboard, still working on how to get Touch keyboard as default

Pictures & Video now opens up to Htc Album

Bits more I cant remember now

To Do

Htc camera defaults to landscape been trying to fix it but no luck yet, but pictures & videos open in portrait
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gimini:
thank you... for somereason when i read that the first time it didnt click.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Where'd rquinn go?

Seems like the guy who started the flaming has *disappeared* . . . :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kabirjohnson:
go figure. not supprise
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jonnyp4l:
Tends to be a common symptom amongst s**t-disturbers :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blackhailfire:
*Peeks head from bunker...* Well it seems like everyone is still here and in one piece. Suppose the war is over?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cyphol:
Maybe, it's me. Well, what can I say. I'm not that good with ROMs and beta testing. He...he...he...:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rquinn19:
are you referring to me?

edit: since i left this thread alone thinking that my involvement in it was over after i privately discussed it with certain people i wasnt even paying attention to it until now. first off i didnt start any flaming. or say anything worthy of an ip ban as one person said. and as someone else said i didnt say anything in disrespectful towards dutty at all.

and someone else said something about me not saying any names so i will since he said something. briggs is indeed the one i was talking about. one post hes asking for the password for the beta saying how he cant wait. and then further in the thread hes replying to someone elses post asking whens it gonna be released with something along the lines of be patient. sounds a little hypocritical to me. this forum like mosts all have the same problems which all forums will always have. people dont read or search. and with that problem you get the people who post "do a search" everytime they see someone ask a question, hows that helping keep threads clean. but what i really meant by garbage was posting a post just for the sake of it being the 200th or 300th post in the thread. not just that but in beta testing thats private usually its a select few highly experienced users. briggs name came to my attention because i remembered him giving somebody an inaccurate answer as too whether roms include radios or not. and being the beta tester professional he is he should know that they can indeed include the radio and some chefs do include them in their rom.

that being said a beta is just that a beta. when you install something that is a beta you know thats its an unfinished copy that may have problems. i myself dont mind. every program i have that has an update whether it be a beta or not i install it. i just like having the newest of everything. i never said anything when i saw many say be patient which i have been doing (after my initial try days ago to get a password). but after i see someone say be patient and they themselves were just in the same boat as that person that just asked as to when or how they could get v4 i had to say something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
that would be correct. If I remember correctly, it was the assertion that some beta testers (who weren't named) were not worthy, followed by 8 pages of people responding, eating popcorn and otherwise watching the fireworks. Seems like after you clarified who wasn't the unworthy tester, and being called out, the silence was deafening. Also seems like I wasn't the only one who noticed.

looks like some more popcorn may be in order. Did I paint a target on my back? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
Fine.

* Chainfire gets some more popcorn.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
* c.b wonders if KOR fancies another beer :D:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Well, I'd still assert that there was flamming (albeit of the wet match type vs. the flame thrower type) but all in all it gave some of us amusement for a day while Master Dutty worked closer to release and more posters that should have "read the thread" posted repeat questions.

Now that a name is out, Chainfire pass the popcorn and I'll pass the . . . ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] philly fan:
D^&* just when I was about to let the women and children back in .... Well back to my original spot ... Can't believe someone tried to sneek my spot .... Flame proof vest was slowing down my pace ..... Who took all the popcorn ...... Still got my drank and my two step (reppin the 215)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rquinn19:
Your supposed to be on my side. I bleed Green (Jersey Boy though)!!!

Anyways I don't have the time for this I just felt it was time someone said something so I did. I can't be the only one who felt like the one kid who was two inches too short to get on the roller coaster while all his friends went!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] we3zy:
Well I know I'm not a beta test for the rom, but I'm not adding to the flame, but just out of curiosity, what would you have done that would be anything different, from reading this thread, it seems like you say the testers don't deserve Dutty's rom I guess because they have comments about it, and his beta can stand up to any final release. Well its a beta, Dutty is human, he can slip, and leave some bugs, but he cannot test the entire rom, we need the testers to spot of little bugs. If I were you, I would give a little thanks to the tester, because that final release you will be using will perform flawless thanks to the beta tester.

Are you just jealous that you didn't get a password? I've been using Windows CE since I can remember, the SPV's or was the MPX. I can't even remember, and I'm not complaining I didn't get to Beta test.

Does anyone here remember this little baby? :D

http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/10/22/smartphone_200x389.jpg
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kremo:
I still have one of this! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] we3zy:
Lol I still have the C550, my girlfriends believe its a really high tech alarm clock because that's what I use to wake me up every morning.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tugas2khas:
This is really fun... I know when i read the thread title... it's a duel on the show...

btw, CYPHOL... I AM jealous of you... you lucky chaps... Hopefully can get v4 by tomorrow... On thursday will be off to BTN... no connection to the outside world... arrghhh...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cyphol:
Since you already have tugas-tugas khas, then I volunteered myself.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
This thread started as a question and turned in to a bash fest. For the love of God just chill. No big deal, no harm done. Dutty chose who he chose and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Now, sits down next to chainfire unless he drank my beer at which point we wrestle.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TheSpindoctor:
I admit that I'm one of the lame ones who wants a Dutty V4 with a cube. I've been sitting on the sidelines watching the horror of the AT&T testers, happier than a clam that I've not had to flash and reflash a phone.

Thanks to EVERY BETA TESTER - I raise a pint to you.

But I'm happy to wait until V4 is released in a fully functioning condition.

For now, shut this thread down

So I can get back to work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
on another note....i wish dutty would relase another beta 2 before he actually pushes it out. public or private doesnt matter to me. reason being....hes was still doing alot to it. he got alot of feedback from us and i know he has changed a few things. if he pushes out another beta...we would pick that apart...which would give us time to catch any new bugs. that way it'll prevent having a v4 "fixed" rom a few days down the line.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Michaelr219:
thats probably the smartest thing ive read on this page so far... i frikken cant wait for this rom to come out... my phone will be near perfection... i have a new ui that i will be releasing on here soon... i know that is off topic, but im sure this page is getting a lot of views like duttys... sorry if this is spamming or whatever, but i think itll be a great addition to duttys rom for those who use wisbar advance desktop... its a drag and drop... no cabs... just load it up and she goes... you can easily pick your own shortcuts, landscape support... it is sort of iphone-ish... pm me if you have questions or want to help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sub69:
This is exactly why beta testers should have a private forum and should keep their comments about beta ROM's in there, and there only. It only frustrates the rest of us minions when we hear snippets of information. I guess XDA-Devs doesn't offer that facility yet?

As with many around here, I'd be happy to get my hands on a copy of the v4 beta. However, I recognise that it'd be pointless because I don't have the time to give any meaningful feedback to Dutty, and I'd only go and flash the final release in a couple of days anyway.

If you're really serious about helping, then you're certainly not the type of person who would ***** and moan about being left out of the test team. So keep quiet, and make a decent case for being on the next test team by helping out a bit around here. Lord knows, XDA-Devs needs all the helpful people it can get at the moment... Too many muppets around here these days ;)

If you just want the latest ROM so that you can say you were one of the first, then you'd be no help at all as a beta tester. Don't worry though, you'll still get a faster, more stable device before too long, it wont have cost you anything at all, and it will have had some sort of quality control applied. Just be (quietly!) grateful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
Totally agree. I offer again http://dutty.lives-in.eu including board and upload space for the roms as second download source.

@ duttys: Just pm me and I will set up ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Malik05:
did you know, that the Kaiser has a tilt screen???

oooo...aaaaaahhhh...ohhhhh....eeeeee!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
uhhmmm, ahhh, what should we do with this information? *confused*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
wtf?!??! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
Ok Guys please calm down, its just a Rom and I dont like seeing this attitude, I'm sorry if i miss out any person I thought should be on the beta, I get loads of PMs a day its hard to go through all of them.

The v4 Rom will be release in a couple/few hours just trying to get one bit to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PaWi:
If you can't wait, make 1 for your own. :D. Give the man a personal life and some sleep :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
i for one...say you start slapping people!!!

please...observe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8mQpBKYnpY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cjkerr:
Awesome Dutty, once again, you've proved that a man needs no sleep

Typically, this morning I thought "Oh. I'll just update to Dutty's v3 as I'm still on v1.1".... This always happens :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
That's why the guys got their popcorn and took a step back. We neither can understand such a behaviour. And that's sad because it made the forum much uglier. But I like the idea of a closed Betatester/Developer forum instead of whet someones appetite here. Hungry dogs barking loudly... If you have interest dutty, just pm me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xmoo:
I'm a official beta tester! And this is what I think about V4.0 so far.

136.65MB Storage.

101.38MB Program.

Good things:

Very Vast ROM.

Very Stable ROM.

F*CKING OWNAGE CUBE (AMAZING SPEED!!!)

FM Radio (Starts, but no tune :( )

WINDOWS directory shows up very fast on phone.

Good Battery Life!!!

Cool Start-up :)

Bad things:

Games (Not all of us play games, it would be better if dutty made a game pack available as a .cab)

TCMP + Streaming website's etc (But as dutty said it will be available as a .cab)

HTC Task Manager (Some use wtask, so it would be great if dutty removes this and addes this as a .cab)

No HTC Home Sprint (It's easier with the Home Sprint)

Can't use other players for music in the cube (The bug, when you need the blablabla.cab file to fix that.)

Why 2 GPS apps? (GPS Test + GPS Tool :S It only cost us storage, make gps test available as a .cab and keep GPS Tool in ROM)

Plz add:

PMC Today Shrink (Cause we all know what buttons we use)

Today Sprint (For easier use, we 1 hand ppl ;) )

Dutty!! The Radio keeps on scanning, have you tried to let him scan for a long time?? Mayb he needs to find his hardware, just like the first time GPS Test?? I'm gonna try this, mayb it will work or mayb it still won't. Better test than no test :) I'll give ya'll feedback later.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
Yeah Carlis.....Damn I go to bed and get back and there's 12 pages to a new thread and most sonds to be be jealousy of the people testing the beta. I'd have loved to test also but Dutty didn't pick me .....jealous, a little...disappointed, sure....but angry no!! Just waiting breathlesslu for a great rom and appreciate Dutty and the folks that did test.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xmoo:
Scanned the radio for about 1 hour. But nothing worked.

We need a software what look-ups the hardware!!

Just like your computer management, were you have a option to lett your pc search for new hardware. Mayb that way, we can active the radio.........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
It probably has to do with the subject of this thread! :D

And, I quote:

No disrespect to anyone! Just kidding! :D

Still trying to find the purpose of this thread! Just like trying to find the purpose of life! :D

Anyone, knows the purpose of life, please let me on the secret too!

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
there is no purpose. you come when you come and you go when you go....everything else inbetween only matters when it matters!

thus....v4 will matter now and 2 weeks from now....then not so much in a month because v5 will be upon us. so on....and so forth!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
Thanks, make sense! Very well said! :)

Anyone else wants to take a stab at the purpose of life! :)

Reminds me about the movie by Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - .... every sperm is scared, every sperm is good! if a sperm is wasted, god gets quite quite irate! ...

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] briggs81:
My htc w100 RC device does not work on v4 beta. Very sad. Works on v2 and probably v3, but no v4 :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bmueller77:
Ok, please anyone close this one. If you want your answer: DOWNLOAD it!. It's here!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
where do you get your info?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Blartiartfast:
It's being uploaded now, thats all. The file is showing but either dutty has a dial up connection, or the upload has been suspended.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
yes and if everyone doesnt leave hsi server alone, youll crash it and then guess what happens.....

you dont get ****
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nicholasendean:
delete this please
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bmueller77:
Seems to. 32MB are too small for this. Let's see... Think, it'll be there soon. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Blartiartfast:
Thats right. Just to add I've not tried to download it either. A monkey with welding goggles should be able to see that it's not complete.

If you wait...You'll all get it that little bit quicker.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bmueller77:
That'd be the first server i know which was killed by some http requests... ^^

if it were some 100 thousand at the same time,... ok. But not because of... let's say 200 just loading the website.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
well have at it then and let me know how it works for you. everyone on the other thread is saying they are downloading it. so have at it, corrupt the file, piss off dutty and see what you get.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bmueller77:
I did not say, I'll download it and already said, 32MB is too small, but i surely will do reload the site every several minutes to check, if there's a file between 55 and 60 Megs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sub69:
P1Tater, grab that popcorn and beer again, we can watch all the stupid people ruin one upload after another, until Dutty decides to give up...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
u are right my friend. sitting back down after running to the store to get a 12 pack for this one.