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[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
According to the official statements HTC wants to leave it like that, and force us to buy new devices. But the point is that according to its specs (on paper) the performance should be greater than any of those available on the market whith only a few exceptions, and in real life it greatly underperforms. HTC says that it's costly to make drivers for it, but we heard Qualcomm and Ati saying that they ship their chips whith easily portable drivers...

This wouldn't be a big issue if HTC wouldn't be one of the best PDA manufacturers... whith that said I don't want to spend another 6-700 EUR to get a new one whithout tha laggy interface next month...
[Touch Cruise General] NeoS:
Another sheet

I guess someone may have already posted this, but what the heck...

http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf

New info stuff for your amusement. In-depth on the graphics chip for MSM7200. Let's hear those moans of sorrow again, LOL. :D
[Touch Cruise General] axeluno:
Hi Gnick,

it's a strange policy for a top manufacturer like HTC...

Everyone in the world knows about underperfomance in video rendering of TyTN2 and Touch Cruise (a collegue of mine yesterday asked me about video playng in my HTC device.... smiling of course :-)), so if HTC don't solve this problem ASAP many people will head toward other manufacturer (like nokia, one for all) and in an overcrowded market like smartphone it's equivalent to a suicide...

Do you remember the horror and disgust in people at the word "Motorola" before V3? For a manufacturer fame is all!

In my humble opinion, of course!
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Heh :) Leave Motorola out of this. They had some GREAT devices like the MPX200, which was shipped with Win Mobile 2002 and could be upgraded up to Win 5 :eek: This phone got me into Win Mobile :p
[Touch Cruise General] xrrkrrkx:
Motorola??????? eeeeeeeeeKKKKK you mean the guys who are rumored to be leaving the mobile market for ever?

i dont even remember the last time i held a motorola in my hands.... maybe a Startac...
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
Sadly it is a strange policy, and there's no real psychological reason behind it except, that they think they can get away whith anything because they own the market. I wonder what will be the long term effects of these user complaints. Maybe it will allow some others to rise (like ETEN), and bring more competition to the market. As always a healthy competition is always good for the useres :D

But I still hope that HTC will correct this mistake, and will be back as our most trusted PDA manufacturer, as it has been in the last decade...
[Touch Cruise General] Borizli:
Look at the page 16: isn't there a Kaiser? "Xbox 360 Graphics scaled for mobile devices"
[Touch Cruise General] stesa:
like nokia ??

c'mon guy... look at here the nokia progress .... i wonder what the nokia useres are thinking about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx77sADoK4I
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Eten are doing the same **** :( I thought about the X800, which is a great device on paper, but then again I noticed it has only 64 MB RAM, which makes it completely useless with memory hungry apps like I-Go 8. And X800 users also complain about choppy GUI performance, occasional screen freezes etc. and that with a 500Mhz Samsung CPU :D
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
Having a "glass half full" moment, we (Touch Cruise owners) are at least in a better position than Eten X800 owners. The issue with the Eten is that the hardware isn't sufficiently powerful to cope with the jump to VGA resolution. Some people here are getting upset when they read about all the good stuff in the Qualcomm chip but at least the hardware is there and the potential could be unleashed by a software upgrade if either HTC or the community can build one. We still have hope but if the hardware isn't sufficiently powerful in the first place then a new device is the only solution.

- Julian

EDIT: I just saw that this was my 100th post and I've now been promoted to senior member. I guess my half-full glass must be overflowing now!
[Touch Cruise General] axeluno:
Yes Julian,

this is my opinion, too.

it's better to have good hardware and poor software than poor hardware.... because poor software can always be improved.

But it's ALWAYS MUCH BETTER to have good hardware and good software for the price we've payed!!!! ;-)
[Touch Cruise General] imfloflo:
HTC will release a new version with better driver and maybe we will have a surprise with a new TouchFlo interface http://www.mobinaute.com/93048-manila-touchflo-htc-prepare-interface-smartphones.html

or maybe i just look too much movies and i jsut dream a lot.

sorry for my bad english.
[Touch Cruise General] loggie1:
I don't have any idea of what it would cost for HTC to release new drivers to fix the video issues with that chip or how much it would cost the individual to upgrade their device with new video drivers? Is the reason HTC have not released the video drivers due to the cost of producing the drivers or is it the fact that HTC want us to buy a new device capable of decent video playback which they will probably release in a few months time?

Some people might be prepared to pay, depending on price of course, for the drivers which will improve the video playback. I appreciate that on a device that costs euro500+ we should not be expected to pay more for what already exists and is not utilised by HTC but it is surely better than having a device you are not happy because of its short-comings. Just a thought.

Mind you I'm still waiting for the Polaris so my opinion might change when I do finally get one.
[Touch Cruise General] Surfboomerang:
Today I received the following answer from ATI :eek:

There is still hope...
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
It would be strange if AMD didn't know about the driver issues at HTC... but let us hope for the best :D
[Touch Cruise General] sedde:
doubt there will be good ending for this issue
[Touch Cruise General] wonderiuy:
Just say him that there is a $4000 for him to leak some driver to us
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Hmmm. Just playing around with my new Polaris that arrived today and Core Media Player 1.1.3. Video is actually working pretty well. The benchmark gives me 199% on DivX and WMA video in qTV mode :p
[Touch Cruise General] leeqid:
Owning a TC myself now, this starts intresting me.

I've done a little bit of research and come across is this:

It's a disclaimer you have to agree to when dl-ing the qualcomm's brew sdk, which is obviously what you need to develop stuff (including presumably drivers) for it.

It basicly states that you may not use the sdk to develop software for the qualcom chipsest that is beeing sold in the US because of a Federal Court rule.

This is what I think is part of the reason, htc doesn't go ahead on the drivers (yet?).

I mean it's definitely not impossible to do, since as far as I've seen from the pages that archive.org recorded, there's just one variant of the chipset which seems to have 3d video codec hw.
[Touch Cruise General] Perjan:
Thats because Coreplayer 1.1.3. utilizes the imageon part of the chipset.....
[Touch Cruise General] session:
Reading your post i asume the MSM7200 comes in 2 flavours.

MSM7200A and MSM7200.

What is the difference? Is the A version the ATI enabled one? Could this be the difference?
[Touch Cruise General] storino03:
the regular one without any letters or extra numbers is the ATI accelerated one.

--James
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1881275

Actually my own research also shows that both versions of the chipsset should have an ATI chip on board.
[Touch Cruise General] g0r3t3x:
really nice videos now, but with coreplayer installed, make a new photo, and try to open it ;) u won't be able to open the photo... maybe a bug of coreplayer...
[Touch Cruise General] Johny1fin:
Hi,

Got my Orbit 2 2 days ago from O2.

Does anyone know what the drivers are -

Filenames, size, date etc so that as newer phones come out we can check?

John
[Touch Cruise General] hebus_chr:
After a soft reset, you could see your photos again :)
[Touch Cruise General] g0r3t3x:
yeh thanks its resolved...

Anyone has any news about the qualcomms drivers? i need it for my touch cruise :D
[Touch Cruise General] dr_s:
Even after soft reset, I couldn't see the taken photo as long as coreplayer was installed. After uninstalling it, I could. Any other solution??
[Touch Cruise General] athanaso77:
Strange situation! We don't face such a problem! I think that something else might do this conflict!
[Touch Cruise General] holmez:
Hi to all,

first post here, little excited.

Got the same problem with my Touch and coreplayer 1.1.3, non picture showing up in the album (but the after-taking-preview seems to work), it says "No valid jpeg file". Left a message on coreplayer supprt board, let's wait and see.
[Touch Cruise General] spellshaper:
Same problem here on Touch Cruise, but I didnt know its caused by CorePlayer, I wanted to return phone back because all photos from mountains trip were useless :eek:
[Touch Cruise General] hamishmacdonald:
Search in the 'Development and Hacking' forums: last night I found an answer to this problem there -- which is basically to download a later version of the camera application and install it. You don't need to uninstall CorePlayer, and everything works fine after.
[Touch Cruise General] holmez:
Ok first of all thank for the good news, glad to hear about a possible solution.

But even if i spent quite an hour searching the 'Development and Hacking' forums, i just can't find the post you're talking about. May be you can leave a link to it? :)

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Cruise General] spellshaper:
This would be great, I only found camera appliacation in Kaiser forum, but it seems like the same version we have on our Polaris.
[Touch Cruise General] dr_s:
I believe that Touch Cruise is just released and supposed to have the latest camera application. Why would there be another latest version which will colve this problem? Camera application works fine until you install coreplayer, therefore the solution has to be in or around coreplayer. I don't want to mess with original applications in Touc Cruise.:confused:
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
I have the latest CoroPlayer installed, but none of the mentioned problems appeared...
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
dr_s: HTC often makes minor changes to the software and includes them in newer manifactured devices without releasing them as an update to the older phones. My device is manifactured in week 3/08 and has a camera 5.04 (Build 29195). Check yours if it's the same or older.
[Touch Cruise General] nikiiv:
I have the same build and none of the photos taken can be opened later ..
[Touch Cruise General] athanaso77:
I don't have problems either.
[Touch Cruise General] holmez:
Ok, problem solved! At least for me....

Coreplayer is not involved, made some tries and found out that the real issue was about INIGMA Reader (an apps for bar code recognizement). Unistalled it and with coreplayer still on the camera back to work perfectly. Hope this can help someone.
[Touch Cruise General] hamishmacdonald:
I found a discussion of the problem in this post/thread:

CorePlayer Mobile v1.1.x Qtv Edition (for Tilt / Kaiser Owners) released...

And a CAB for the camera application here (sorry, it's not newer -- I misspoke -- but it seems to function identically):

[Good News]HTC Camera 5.0.4.2915.00 for KAISER. - Finally Fixed Graphics (22.01.2008)
[Touch Cruise General] DD_:
Hm same problem here. After uninstalling coreplayer camera is working pretty fine, when i have coreplayer installed all photos are damaged. First i was thinking it's cause by storage card, but now i found it's connected with CorePlayer.

Strange is that preview of picture is fine but when u want to c it in full size it won't open.

I hope they will fix it soon.
[Touch Cruise General] DD_:
Hm i uninstalled coreplayer .. camera starts working installed it again and camera still works. Strange.
[Touch Cruise General] MrSmith22:
The discussion is straying off the driver issue into CorePlayer problems, can we try and keep it to the topic. Last mention of driver issues was on page 14.
[Touch Cruise General] nikiiv:
The cammera app is straight rip of TC
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
Haven't heard any news from the Driver issue since ... 31st of January. What is happening? HTC Class Action ain't providing too much info either...

Are we losing? :(
[Touch Cruise General] Surfboomerang:
I still haven't had a reaction from ATI. I asked about the status of my call today. no reply yet.
[Touch Cruise General] Yzord:
I had an hour discussion today with a technical member of HTC and he is telling me that HTC isnt aware of the problem (sure buddy) and as for now there is no planning of making a driver cause, he said, the driver in the device is working properly.

All i could do was bringing back my phone to the place i bought it and demands a new one.
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
So I hope the technician is at least aware that they are producing mobile phones :D
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
He might think he works for the Holy Trusting Church... Well guess what, I don't trust it!
[Touch Cruise General] Rafael1000:
Did someone tried to contact ATI/ Qualcomm for help?

Making video drivers musn't be so hard to do for professionnals...
[Touch Cruise General] nikiiv:
If some one had the specs.. I doubt the specs will be released
[Touch Cruise General] mikemansh:
I also installed Coreplayer, but I have to confert the video-files to a new size ect.

Does anybody have the correct figures, like FPS, size, filename, and maybe a easy confert program to do it?
[Touch Cruise General] dtancu:
Pocket Divx Converter. It's free.

Encode it in 320x240, 25 fps, max audio/video and you should be fine.
[Touch Cruise General] Surfboomerang:
@rafael1000

I did... see my previous post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1891892#post1891892
[Touch Cruise General] boart:
@Surfboomerang

Can u give me the ATI e-mail addy plz? Ill write them too.

But i did not find the right adress to this point.

Hope ATI will support us....

Tomorrow ill tell my o2 shop about the problem too.

Hope, they`ll contact HTC then too.

Greetz
[Touch Cruise General] Rafael1000:
OK, stay us informed about your conversations with ati. ;)

Do not give up, and insists and do not hesitate to relaunch them often, and try to give them the link http://htcclassaction.org/

I think the solution may come from ATI

Thank you very much man :)
[Touch Cruise General] Rafael1000:
I think you can find the contact mail here:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/AboutAMD/0,,51_52_3592,00.html
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
I thought everyone would like to know that amazingly BLU has released a New software update for the BLU R1-HD tonight...

Update Information:

Version number: BLU_R0010UU_V8.3_GENERIC_6.0_20170414-2043

Version size: 333.47 MB

Release date: 2017-05-01

A new software update is available for your R1 HD!

This software update includes the Android Security Updates and several improvements including VoLTE for T-Mobile.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] liviu_anc:
download link

BLU_R0010UU_V8.3

drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hDCcrfeDwXQ21lQmIyNXlqOWs/view
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mblokker:
Are you running the Prime firmware?

Could you share with us the patch level date?

I'm running OEM firmware, haven't seen any new updates arrive.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
thank you. your link is no a link though. here i will make it a link.

i edited your quote section.

and copied here too so make it easier to find.

==>FULL-UNMOFIFIED-7.42-to-8.3_update

i will try to upload a copy without the preloader and u-boot.img's when i test it out

Modified _without being locked down version

==>Link
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
I am running the Prime firmware.

Android Security Patch Level date is:

April 5, 2017

.....
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] liviu_anc:
I'm new on xda and first 10 post I cannot post Link's

---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------

I have a question I'm running a rooted room based on the official Amazon prime room and have TWRP recovery installed how can I make an update script from this to use it on TWRP recovery ?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
One would then assume that the dirty-cow method will no longer work. It was supposed to have been patched as early as Nov security patch, so I guess new updates to V8 will have no root

yet

.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mblokker:
Maybe Chainfire's FlashFire could help? Search for eu.chainfire.flash in the Google Play Store.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
***EDIT***

Sorry for the double redirect, but my original post was a rom and should be kept in the rom section

==>Link to ROM Thread
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] Tracerlx:
Did we lose root access with any security updates pass November 2016?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] sirrelevant:
Three apps I've noticed uninstalled and now incompatible: google+, goggles, and wolphram alpha. Can't see what the problem is. Any ideas?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
No idea, myself. Is that on the official or modified update?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] sirrelevant:
Official OTA. Phone's all stock.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ivarme:
Is there way to do install this new firmware 8.3 unmodified as sent from manufacturer thru OTA if my phone is already modified? Is Wireless Update app safe to do upgrade to 8.3?

Few month ago I used Dirty Cow on 6.6 to root and unlock bootloader, I then installed TWRP and from TWRP I installed modified 7.4.2 from vampireinfo thread, the one without preloader_p6601.bin, lk.bin, logo.bin, secro.img, trustzone.bin, uboot.img and without Amazon apps and adds.

Seeing this device is no longer supported I would like to revert to factory ROM to have up to date and working :) phone. I don care about SuperSu or rooted phone, this is useless.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
The only way to go back unmodified is to go back to locked bootloader, stock recovery, and stock rom first. It's an unchangeable path. Because going that way will change the preloader(take away sp flash tool as a means of unbricking)

And then if the update goes "side ways" could be a problem.

But possible if you want to.

Outline of what's needed- not realy a step by step tutorial.

1. Make sure sp flash tool is working.

If not working because of previous update, need to go forward in order to go back.

What I mean is, more modification ,by rolling back preloader.

2. Flash an oob (out of box) backup

3. Take official updates, and hope things do not brick.

OR

Wait a day or two, and the update will be made available to be flashed in twrp.

I have already made the system update work in v17, flashed in twrp, next will be test out the boot.img update, then change it from a patch update into a rom.

Your choice.

**UPDATE**

Full rom install complete

==>Link to post with modified V8
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
It's been updated to April 2017, that's good.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
I don't think we lost root , it you have it already. But it you don't Already have root the security update pass the November date you loose the dirty-cow exploit. And without that the way we unlock bootloader is lost. And you need to be able to do that , to install recovery, etc, etc.

---------- Post added at 06:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:18 AM ----------

What version were you on when you downloaded this update?

I need to match up system files in order to apply the patches.

The new files are OK but the updated ones need to be matched up.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] liviu_anc:
I'm on 7.4.2
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
What ever version people are on is the only patch that will work for that device you can't mix and match patches cause they simply won't apply.

The patches check the hashes and only applies to apps, and binaries that match.

While you could apply 7.4.2 to V17 only a small part would apply, basically not worth the effort.

Hopefully people using different versions captured their update and uploads it, would be nice to have version from every version that got an update.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
Right.

I had to install v7.4.2 to apply patches. I tried to just apply patches to the boot.img on the ext-sd card (tried following an old apply-patch guide) but had trouble because the sha1 of the boot.img when it was not on the boot partition did not match. (Over my head this morning)

So I have the patch working and booting for 7.4.2 without the preloader change.

I would like to make it a rom.zip instead if a patch. As soon as I know how to do that will upload.

The new update has added this interesting privacy policy to the setup. And by default it is set to allow sharing data with Blu.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] liviu_anc:
I m asking how we can make the patch aplayable to are device's without locking the bootloader we have something like this for older versions of this room in another post on xda it will be great to get eaven this update without sacrificing all the goodies

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 PM ----------

A nandroid backup will be ok without the data cache partition

---------- Post added at 02:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:42 PM ----------

I have a question do you replace your screen because I don't see the Blu logo on the lower part of your phone I'm asking because my girlfriend has a cracked display and I want to get a display ansambly​ for her the same without the logo
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
It's same screen just not in the photo.

The black line at bottom is where the back and home menu keys are , then lower off the shot it "BLU'

I have already left the PC this morning so no upload of nandroid until this afternoon/evening
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] liviu_anc:
Have any one an idea about aftermarket screens for r1 hd like they are IPS like the original one or they are good enough
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] satish11nov:
Thats right. Dirty cow exploit is fixed in 8.3 and there is no unlocking solution for this version.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I thought I read where someone rooted this version.

Perhaps not.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
Uploading twrp flash-able version of 8.3 for those who already have root and twrp. Sorry there is no progress on rooting official 8.3 update.

==>>V8.3 twrp install uploaded
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] Tracerlx:
Will this keep root once the update is finished?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
Yes is does. The boot.img is from phone after superSu has patched it. But if you do a wipe During install you will need to reinstall the superSU app or reflash the superSu update.

I may redo the rom so it is un-rooted. If I do I will make note of it
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] Hack5190:
[MENTION=5312578]mrmazak[/MENTION] - Does this mean its out of testing and I can proceed with step 3 mentioned in my post here?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
The rom shouldn't be rooted, some people run apps that don't work on rooted phones, that's why I only released unrooted roms.

Or release two roms, one rooted the other one not rooted.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] KyleStilkey:
This exactly, I just posted this reason in my thread I created about wanting to update to the latest OTA update and keeping TWRP but sadly, with the forced ROOT, it causes many software I use to not work. I'd love if you would release a non-rooted version, and if at all possible even support the PRIME Version (with ads) for the users that don't mind them.