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[Android Apps and Games] :
When searching on images on google i cant save them to my unit. Focus crashes whenever i longpress on an image. Also i cant download an apk from a link. Using debug version.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
You could report this on the GitHub page for Focus. I'm just compiling whatever source/changes they push.

It's a dev build so expect issues! :silly:
[Android Apps and Games] haseogu:
I can't even open the browser. It close it self after I open it (webkit version ) anyone have the same problem?
[Android Apps and Games] Jk124:
Me too the app just opens and then it closes immediately. I have the latest version of webview installed. I would really like to use this app but it keeps crashing immediately. I'm running android 7.1.2 (lineage 14.1).
[Android Apps and Games] 1plus:
Very nice. Firefox after considerable delay actually tries to catch up with CAF browser (I use it as my default browser on three devices, and yes, it has trackers protection). There is a long way ahead though.

In regards to these early builds -- gecko works, webkit-beta force closes on launch, webkit not beta does not even install :)

7.1.2 Lineage 14.1 of course.
[Android Apps and Games] adwinp:
1: downloads should work in debug builds but are disabled in dev & release builds

Commit: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/commit/b883c5db1ee57937f611ce219a5c4d702673ef1a

2: the webkit version force closes probably because of a hardcoded webkit library path (/system/app/webview/lib/arm64) which doesn't exist, as system libs reside in /system/lib{64}
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Yeah that's why I'm only going to release the debug builds for now.
[Android Apps and Games] Lubakabra:
Can anybody mirror the WebKit Beta version. Thanks ?
[Android Apps and Games] Jk124:
The WebKit version still closes immediately after opening. Does anyone have any idea why? Any help is appreciated I'm running lineage 14.1 by the way and I have the latest version of webview installed.
[Android Apps and Games] Swidilator:
Go into developer options and make sure that the WebKit you are using is the one from the play store
[Android Apps and Games] Dingо:
I had the same issue with the WebKit version closing immediately. I noticed a few hours later that the Play Store had notified me of several updates one including Android Web View which I updated. The Focus app began to work flawlessly afterwards. One thing to note is I am signed up for beta updates to the Web View through the Play Store.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Anyone have a logcat of the WebView crash? I can submit to Mozilla as a bug report.
[Android Apps and Games] Jk124:
[MENTION=5254198]Swidilator[/MENTION] thankyou ... You were right I was using aosp webview instead of google webview. Now it works flawlessly. ?
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
I'll keep trying Focus but despite the fresh UI I don't see the point of installing this version. Firefox already has all these features (and MANY more) thanks to an user.js, uBlock origin, Self-destruction cookies,...

Welcome to the 21th century Mozilla! Finally a great UI :)
[Android Apps and Games] anonimo:
What does this new browser offer that is not already covered by using the standard Firefox with the "Self-destructing cookies" extension?

"Firefox+self destructing cookies+adblock" gives me all the privacy and the control I need.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
I think the major difference is it is using webkit for the browsing engine (or at least you can chose which one to compile)... everything else seems similar to normal Firefox. As long as people still want to download it, I will make builds though!
[Android Apps and Games] 1plus:
1. Thanks for building test versions <3

2. New build works fine on my setup, I mean webkit, geckos was working from the start.

3. Google webview is not needed. My setup is google-free so the only webview installed is AOSP (LineageOS 14.1).

4. I either blind or something but I cannot find a button to switch between mobile and desktop versions of a website?
[Android Apps and Games] jjc_01:
Thank you very much for doing this. I'm wondering where exactly you put the python 2 libs in the build? New to Android Studio over here. Want to build the beta with the webkit subsystem. Thanks again!

EDIT: I was able to find a drop down in Android Studio where I was able to choose which build I wanted. Chose "Webkit Beta" and the app compiled just fine. Gecko=~44mb Webkit=~4mb
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
If you're building from Windows just put the Python files in the root of the focus git source and run the build. On Linux you don't need to do this so I switched to a VM instead.
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
For me it's faster than Firefox . And some video sites displays preview of the video if we make selection on the video . With Firefox preview is not working and at the same time focus does the job well.

I use Firefox with ublock orgin but only 1 problem I'm facing is ublock can't block redirecting ads . Is there anyway to block that ?
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
You should switch to Cookie Autodelete (WebExtension) since SDC's support will be dropped starting from FF 57.

Of course uBlock Origin is also a better tool then AdBlock.

Actually there's a lake of features but I'm curious to see what Mozilla will finally do with this browser. I think Focus could be a great browser for temporary web browsing like opening a link from a social network. Of course it's faster than Firefox (classic/beta/aurora/nightly) so it could be a replacement of my 2nd browser (SWE browser atm).

Please keep posting updates :good:

Yes but which version of webview do you have? 58.0.3029.83 here. AFAIK AOSP webview doesn't have several security fixes so it's not really safe to use it (that's why I opt for Gecko engine).

Any example?
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Cookie Autodelete doesn't work for Firefox for Android yet though.
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Check PM
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Yes but already in the tracker issue ;) https://github.com/mrdokenny/Cookie-AutoDelete/issues/12
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Will do. :good: I use it instead of Incognito mode since it seems to be faster than my CAF build in that respect with DuckDuckGo.
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
What is the difference between gecko and webview version ?
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Looks like they are planning to release this as an open (maybe?) beta in the Play Store!
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Gecko uses the Mozilla engine whereas the WebView (Blink) uses the Google rendering engine for displaying web pages. Generally the WebView implementation is way faster than the Gecko one.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Isn't WebKit developed by Apple? Focus has been developed for iOS at the beginning.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Sorry I guess I should say Blink. WebKit was forked by Google to create Chromium/Chrome. WebView is based on Blink. :)

For some reason Mozilla Focus is referring to WebKit as the engine they use, unless they have ported their own version into Focus (but I doubt it since it seems to be using the WebView implementation that Google is using).
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Updated builds as of this morning.

Also re-added the Beta build back with a disclaimer since generally it runs a bit quicker.
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
I've used Firefox for many years and this does intrigue me...

"Live Long and Prosper..."

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[Android Apps and Games] adwinp:
Both webkit versions (dev & beta) force close with AOSP (Lineage 14.1) webview.

Haven't tried with google webview yet, but Focus should work on vanilla webview nethertheless, especially if you're going down the pure, nogapps road.
[Android Apps and Games] plisskenn:
Webkit not working on 7.1.2 6p. I'll try other versions.
[Android Apps and Games] dlradlt:
Both webkit versions crash for me on Android 5.0
[Android Apps and Games] 1plus:
Yes, I have the same version. Android security patch level is from 05 May 2017 though. In any case, if there are any security problems that's LineageOS fault :)
[Android Apps and Games] fenerbuuh:
smooth and nice browser... no problems here with the beta in RR 5.5.8 LOLI
[Android Apps and Games] rolarocka:
Fastest browser I ever tried. Awesome.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Updated links with builds with latest commits from this morning. Enjoy!
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Which WebKit ? Beta or debug ?
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
[MENTION=2476899]lexcyn[/MENTION], this looks so much like what a stock browser looks like.

I'm wondering if this could possibly be some kind of modified FirefoxOS stock browser as the Gello Mod Browser is to the Gello Browser in LineageOS.

Maybe I'll ask them over in the FirefoxOS area of the XDA Forum.

I'm, in no way, stating that this was taken from someone else... I'm just curious.

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[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
That's exactly what it is? It's developed by Mozilla as a kind of "incognito" browser. Please see the link to the github page on the first post if you want more info.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
They are both faster than the gecko version, it just depends which works on your system depending on the webview version you have installed I think.
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
This is a great browser and, though, it has a few (purely as a personal preference) downsides, it's a great fallback browser as a "go to" backup browser.

The, personal downsides, is in no way meant regarding its performance or function but, just in a personal preference way.

It does have the speed, reliability and privacy which is why i do plan to place it on the list of my, personal, go to apps to have installed.

Not too many apps really stick out like this one does for me... Kudos to you lexcyn!

The Firefox line of Browsers has always been a preferred favorite of mine and this does make the grade.

"Live Long and Prosper..."

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[Android Apps and Games] 1plus:
Just upgraded to the latest build (19May) so now all three versions work :)

Now a bit of my personal favourite section on any wikipedia article, i.e. criticism <3

1. WebGL enabled -- privacy fail (and quite massive one)

2. Gecko version does not show any trackers detected -- that was the case from the first build. Webkit version shows e.g. 7 trackers blocked on the same website where Gecko version shows ZERO.

3. Desktop/mobile version switch -- either I still cannot find or it does not really exists there yet. Either way, that makes Focus pretty much unusable.

Overall, nice effort, but to raise even to a backup browser level there must be much work done. My primary browser for the last year or so is a modified CAF browser, with all tracker protection etc. My second browser for privacy is Firefox Android Nightly which does have both tracking protection and desktop/mobile switch.
[Android Apps and Games] taaeem:
Just to show that this will end up in the play store: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-firefox-focus-android
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
I have no doubts it will, even the beta may end up there. But until then I will be compiling builds.

It will be easier to get updates in the store, but they may come less frequently.
[Android Apps and Games] Mchasard:
This version don't open the you tube link even I'm already under focus... Strange it propose me to open with video reader
[Android Apps and Games] Dingо:
Is it possible to compile these so that someone can have different versions of the webview debug installed and use separate locations for data storage and what not?
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
Though the Firefox Focus has been available a while for the iOS here:

Firefox Focus: The privacy browser By Mozilla - iTunes Preview for Mac + PC

Mozilla has already started building support pages for the Android Release (though not much has been done yet) here:

Firefox Focus - Mozilla Support

Still not available in the Google Play Store, i don't understand why they are providing support pages with references to the Google Play Store when its not even available there yet.

To add, i didn't even notice any reference within the Mozilla Support link to the Github location either...

Here's one online article with the Announcement of the Firefox Focus for Android already:

Try Mozilla's Privacy-Friendly Firefox Focus Browser on Android Right Now

They seem to be putting "the Cart before the Horse"... So to speak... LOL!

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[Android Apps and Games] FPSUsername:
HTML6 test:

Webview beta: 502

Gecko: 475
[Android Apps and Games] sbute:
Webkit : 501
[Android Apps and Games] Eskuero:
Works quite nicely using the latest WebView update here, thanks for providing the early builds :)
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
My test results

Brave 511

Focus beta webview 501

Firefox 489

Ucbrowser 420
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
Actually, [MENTION=2476899]lexcyn[/MENTION], i know that you had customized and improved on this great app but, will this app be impacted by Mozilla's eventual release of this app on the Play Store (as well as their subsequent updates)?

I just wanted to ask you before they do release it so that I can prepare for it and may have to be forced to manually re-sign your releases in order to sever your app from the Play Store.

Thanks a Bunch!

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[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
He literally just compiled it and uploaded it. No customisation or improvements.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
There are no customizations. I just compile directly from Mozilla's source code. When it's released in the Play store I won't be compiling any more unless they are slow to update it.
[Android Apps and Games] Ibuprophen:
[MENTION=2476899]lexcyn[/MENTION], I completely understand that as I knew that you had outlined it in your OP but, i wasn't sure if you had realized that when they finally release the app, in the Play Store, that your app will, more than likely, reflect as their app in the Google Play and be a part of their update/release to install.

I just wanted to point this out as a friendly FYI in case you may not have known this but, I've got a feeling that you may.

I apologize if I was out of line with the information provided.

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[Android Apps and Games] ProximusPRO:
This will make everyone use firefox as primary browser.
[Android Apps and Games] Pho3nX:
Thanks, i test some site with a lot of trackers and Focus is really impressive (speed, smooth) but you i can't download anything lol

For the moment Firefox Aurora with ublock Origins is really perfect, i hope Firefox dev will implement the native tracker blocker from Focus on Firefox mobile soon!
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
It's already there, turn tracking protection on by default.

Also downloads are coming soon.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Updated with a bunch of changes from today. New links in first post!
[Android Apps and Games] casperusm:
Yandex for Android

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[Android Apps and Games] zacharias.maladroit:
[MENTION=2476899]lexcyn[/MENTION]

please add the following to the OP

that browser needs a bit of introduction

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/05/10/hands-firefox-focus-ported-android-shows-promise/

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2016/...fast-and-easy-to-use-private-browser-for-ios/

Never heard of it personally before ;)

Thanks for offering the builds,

gotta take a look and see how it goes :)
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Thanks - I will add those links to OP when I get home!
[Android Apps and Games] unimatrix725:
Can u compile or post a Gecko based version without the debug code active? Not a fan of WebKit... not t hat it matters, but prefer no webview requirements.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Links don't work on the Gecko version. Nothing happens when I select a link...
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Works fine for me.
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Link is working for me I'm using XDA labs .
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Try opening a search result from Startpage.com or Qwant.com

If French is the system language: Qwant is available as a search engine

If English is the system language: Qwant is no longer available and replaced by Amazon :)
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Start Page isn't working for me but other sites are. I suggest you report it on GitHub.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Sorry there is only a working debug version for gecko at the moment.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Updated first link with new builds from this morning.
[Android Apps and Games] hondapaul:
Hi All

Just loaded the Web-View beta and it's working fine on my Nexus 5 running the NitrogenOS 7.1.2 rom.

Using Boat browser, as could not get on with the android version of Firefox (but love the PC version, go figure) and it has no problems showing full screen video.

What did happen though was upon opening the beta app for the first time Play store updated four of my apps... Does the beta trigger play store somehow?
[Android Apps and Games] fablebreton:
Should i use the "master" branch if i want to build plz ?
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Yes.
[Android Apps and Games] Evil-Maiden666:
Probably not
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
New builds from changes up to today. Enjoy!
[Android Apps and Games] boldfilter:
Is this a hint that mozilla might consider switching to WebKit?
[Android Apps and Games] Psyscope:
They are planning on switching to Webkit. They are unifying the extensions with Chrome.

Which apk do people prefer?
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
No they're not. They will be using Gecko for the forseeable future and if they switch rendering engine it will be for Servo not WebKit. Servo which under Project Quantum is already being folded into Gecko. Something that would've been impossible had they maintained support of the old extension model due to how intrusive it was. By switching to the API model that Chrome uses, they're able to prevent add-ons causing instability and they're able to evolve the rendering engine without fear of breaking compatibility.
[Android Apps and Games] fredfred41:
Hi

Can't launch gecko, webkit beta, or debug, versions on my Honor 8 ( frd-l09 android 7.0, emui 5.0 b381), open and close in 1 sec
[Android Apps and Games] boldfilter:
Makes sense. The world needs a chrome alternative. It does not however need a chrome alternative that cannot compete with chrome.
[Android Apps and Games] chiwawa10:
The Webkit Beta version working fine on my device with latest Lineage OS nightly. Just installed it moments ago a gave it a brief test drive. Everything seems to work fine. Will use it as my main browser for now and see if there is anything major to report back.

Thanks for the build!
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Updated builds posted!
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Did they add tabs function ?
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Not that I could see.
[Android Apps and Games] Keiko87:
or just delete all browsers on your phone and ask Mum for what u looking for :P

...all these browsers 9999999 of them, i wish back the old Netscape times x.x
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
Another day, another build. Links in first post.
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
That link is not Focus. I'll make some new builds tomorrow.
[Android Apps and Games] RijuSarkar:
is the webkit(beta) version is faster than webkit(dev)?
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
I personally don't see a difference, but in theory it should be since some of the debug code is missing.

FYI new builds as of today are posted. Enjoy!
[Android Apps and Games] RijuSarkar:
One thing...can't you provide update notif within the app
[Android Apps and Games] lexcyn:
No since I am just compiling directly from Mozilla source... you can submit this as a feature request on their Github if you'd like.
[Android Apps and Games] fenerbuuh:
well i really like it but without tabs its never be a daily driver for me.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
No tabs. No bookmarks. I think Focus will never be a primary web browser.

But it's (almost) perfect to visit links from emails, social networks,... without opening a 'full browser'.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
BTW did you see something about a Firefox Servo build for Android?
[Android Apps and Games] PunchUp:
Shouldn't have bookmarks. But I think tabs are definitely required
[Android Apps and Games] arc_knight:
lol, why is the gecko version so big compared to its web-kit version?! and they exactly look the same, feel the same!

though I personally love it. its like a NINJA. fast and quiet. Do the job, get out. No attachments left behind.
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
WebKit is already on your system and so you're just hooking onto it whereas the Gecko version is bringing a whole rendering version along.
[Android Apps and Games] arc_knight:
makes sense. I could not figure that out...damn... But then Firefox uses Gecko as its engine. I wonder which one will they choose in the end....
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
For Focus, they seem to have put more effort into the WebKit version. There's features missing in the Gecko version. But for proper Firefox, they intend to persist with Gecko which is great news for the whole world wide web.
[Android Apps and Games] arc_knight:
features missing? :eek: like whot? from over the top I didn't find a difference...

but lately, you never know what Mozilla is going to announce lol. I have been reading a lot about the disappointed plugin devs..hahaha, of course, they will not change their Gecko engine at any cost.
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
I'm unsure, but one of the developers said it on GitHub.

The add-on developers absolutely have the right to vent their frustration, but they have to accept that times are changing and holding the browser back to accomodate them isn't going to help anyone, in fact it will hinder the web. Mozilla could've done it differently as the add-on developers feel as though they've been asked to do two rewrites in quick succession, but reality is that progress waits for no one and the changes being made as Firefox switches from XUL to WebExtensions should in fact mean that this is the last time they'll have to rewrite an add-on for compatability going forward. Plus when you look at how much of an adverse effect some legacy add-ons have on performance versus some of the newer approaches (Adblock Plus versus Ublock Origin) I would recommend those add-on developers rewrite anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] arc_knight:
Will agree to that. I recently jumped from Adblock to uBlock_Origin myself and definitely feel the latter having the better approach even though I know little about programming, and also jumped to Nightlies of Firefox. I always feel like I must stay ahead of others atleast in terms of apps :P But devs always have a hard time. But having a single base for plugin, I always felt firefox has got more power than Chrome.. Might just attract new devs. Plus the diversity of firefox plugins <3
[Android Apps and Games] chiwawa10:
First of all, I'm not trying to hijack this thread. But I would like to bring to your attention that the release candidate (RC1) build is now available on GitHub @ https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/releases
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Hopefully [MENTION=2476899]lexcyn[/MENTION] will make a Gecko build with the release candidate commits since it seems that Mozilla isn't planning to.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Why is there a different release for Germany, Austria and Switzerland?
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
I have no idea. It seems odd to split the branding. Maybe Focus is a rude word in those languages?