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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] francesco_mnz:
Thanks all for replying. Honor seems to be a big disappointment, it's good but something form Huawei is always lacking...

I can wait hoping that my phone survives until the summer:) one plus 3t is a bit too expensive, I'm still thinking of saving some money and go for Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2, even if I know Honor feels more like a "top phone".

If anyone will give some other opinion it will be so much appreciated.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Well, just to say my opinion

Fisrt of all, I had a lots of smartphones

Just the last 20 months I had more then 5 phones changed

The thing is, I am reading on xda for every phone the same like I wont buy LG or Sony or Samsung ever again.. its allways the same talk..

Like allways people searched for the best thing for the money and then got disapointed by something and than started like I wont buy LG anymore

Next thing thay do is buying something else.. the best for the money and again talk bad about it..

WHY??

Well, guys you must realize that the one usually are disapointed were looking for the perfect one for the money

Well, there is not evan one phone on the market wich is PERFECT FOR THE MONEY

Couse it always will be short on something

Like locked bootloader and no xda support or like no support from the manufacturer but then a bit of xda support or the build qualitie maybee good but then it is maybe fingerprint magnet..

Just be aware of that you will never get all for the money.. it is and will be allways like that..

So when you want to buy any phone be ready to be satisfide with it as is.. dont be wanting all of it for the money.. no phone has it

Soo, if you want now to consider things and this Honor 8 be prepared to like it in a way that allmost everything is ok.. allmost.. like awesome look.. premium feel but easy to scretch or be a fingerprint magnet.. able to unlock the bootloader and root and install twrp.. great battery like 9hours of SoT on B381.. great speed.. allmost perfect..BUT for now not much of custom rom support wich can change with getting the source code.. soo the best is yet to come

Soo, its almost perfect.. but dont look for perfect

You will never find it

Not evan iPhone is perfect

Look for something you will like it as is

And after like 20 smatphones I had this one is the best of it

In real world beating phones like double the priceed like pixel.. not benchmark numbers but real time speed of opening apps or things like that

Look on you tube real time speed and performance

You just can not go wrong with this phone for that money

Hope you will think about my advice

Not be looking for the best on the market

Evan samsung s8+ users are after one week of use complaining about things couse they also thought for that money s8 would be the best.. and that got dissapointed with it too..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sysak:
I'll just leave this here. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c

Going back to the original question, it's a fantastic phone but you can try to get it for less than you mentioned. Don't know where you live but in the UK every now and then the price gets really good. The other day one of the supermarket chains was selling them for £200 and for that kind of money it's a no-brainer.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Bii [MENTION=5442845]sysak[/MENTION]

Thanks for the you tube link

That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans.. ?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Depends on what you value.

It's a "value" phone so it sits on a sweet spot. If you value bug correction and updates, I would say definitely no. If you want a nice phone and are a basic user, then yes, get it.

Please just don't go on any trade-in program with Honor/Huawei. My Honor7 had zero scratches (always tempered glass and protective case) and after receiving my phone on their side, they lowered £10 on the evaluation. i rejected it in the 20th March. I haven't received my phone back yet. :crying:

The brand cares about new customers, not so much about existing ones (it's my 2nd Honor). Hence why the budget goes to advertisement and not to supporting developing community or regular updates/fixes.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii [MENTION=387533]zinko_pt[/MENTION]

Thanks for the answer

And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8

Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates

But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..

So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PuffDaddy_d:
I just upgraded from the Z3 compact, and although the large format is hard to handle with one hand, mostly everything else about the phone is a huge step up from the Z3 series. The Honor's camera is very sharp with greater detail than the Z3 and at nearly half the price, it's hard to beat for the money. Like any phone in this price range, it's not perfect, but it's flaws are outweighed by it's value.

It doesn't hold charge while sleeping the way Sony does, but it sips battery while in use like a tiny bird. I easily get 6-7hrs of screen on time where I couldn't get more than 4 with the Z3C.

The single speaker is louder than the dual Sony speakers but won't win any awards for sound quality.

And though it has its quirks, EMUI is way more customizable than Sony ever could be, and I'm not talking about silly themes.

Finally, nothing beats this fingerprint reader.

Go for it! The Honor 9 might be better, but there's always something new coming out. If you really want to upgrade again, sell the Honor 8.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] yalokiy:
Honor 6 was released with android 4 and later updated to 5.x and then to 6.0.x, if we are lucky, probably honor 8 will get O as well.

Display and battery are good.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] francesco_mnz:
Thanks to everyone. I don't know why, but the Honor 8 price is rising instead of dropping:/ a couple of months ago I could get it for more or less 320€, now it's like 345€:/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Linuxslate:
I'm in a very similar situation since I got my Honor 8 to replace a dying Sony Z2.

I really liked my Z2, and even being as old as it was, there is no phone out there that I would have voluntarily given up my Z2 for.

That said, I am happy with my H8, and I am not looking back.

In their times, the Z2 and Z3 were both high-end phones. I would call the H8 a mid-range phone.

If you are willing to spend upwards of US$500, then there are better phones out there -- Sony XZ, Huawei P9 Pro... etc.

Like a previous post said, the H8 does not have stereo speakers, but the sound from the single speaker at the bottom is better than my Z2 was. The Z2 had a specific problem with the speaker phone being low... I can now actually use my speaker phone.

The H8 also lacks the water proof feature of the high-end Sony's. While I never immersed my Z2, it seemed to die of something that could have been moisture intrusion.

Point is that I really do not miss either of those features in daily use.

Sony was excellent with updates. Only a Nexus device (or Pixel, or whatever) could have been better. I am hoping that Huawei supports this phone for a while, but I would have to say that IMHO expecting them to be as good as Sony was in this respect is not a reasonable expectation. Notice also that I said ..."as good as Sony was". Sony seems to be shrinking in the market, so going forward, they may not be as good as they were.

Camera: My Sony would shoot 4K video --- for about 30 seconds before it would either produce an file that ate all available storage, or it would over heat. I never used it. For anything other than comparing specs (anything practical) I think I can actually do more cool/impressive photography with the H8.

Speed: I have no speed complaints at all with the H8. I've never noticed a lag or anything happening at a speed that would even begin to cause frustration. Processor speed and cost caused the H8 to easily win out for me over the XZ.

Another thing that should not be ignored is Huawei's reputation for building better radios. With both this phone and an old Honor 2, I notice better signal (real, and number of bars) in fringe areas.

Lastly, the feel of the H8 must be mentioned. The feel/build quality/whatever you want to call it is better than any other phone in it's price class.

I agree with the other poster that said (as you mention -- especially in May of 2017) don't over pay for it. Today it should be viewed strictly as a mid-range daily use phone. Decide which range you are in and act/pay accordingly.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Sony have a great reputation for SW update. I've witness this. Z3C phone and tablet had update until 6.0.1, from a SD801. The only reason there is no oficial Nougat update is because Google doesn't want it to happen. But Z3C was beta for Nougat. I can't even remember how hold is my tablet but runs fantastic, zero bugs.

Now moving on to Huawei/Honor, Emui5.1 is coming out on new devices, not available on old.

P9 flagship is still Emui5. Not even mentioning 7.1.1 or latest security updates. When and if they're implemented, they're already outdated.

Honor7 got 1 OS version update and no Nougat. Not even the promised 2 year support.

If we take examples from other brands (OnePlus is also under fire due to false promises about software updates) software updates might be, if not are actually be, the number one thing users get disappointed.

There's definitely a trend amongst some manufacturers to drop support too soon for devices. Apple, very much bashed, is an example of OS support, which is sad.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PuffDaddy_d:
I heard Honor US has promised to provide this region with two years of updated. Even if they don't, root.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] evilpaul13:
Aside from being able to have exploits run that require root and breaking whatever OTAs we get It's unclear what the point of rooting would be on the Honor 8. There isn't much you can do unless I'm missing something.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] dedovec:
P10 lite instead of Honor 8?

P10 lite:

1. Micro USB

2. No IR

3. Kirin 658< Kirin 950

4. DDR3 RAM

5. Mali T830MP2 (40.8 GFlops)

Honor 8:

1. USB- C

2. IR blaster

3. Kirin 950> Kirin 658

4. DDR4 RAM for 4Gb version

5. Mali T840MP2 (122.4GFlops)

6. Fast battery charging
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flyinghighaero:
If you are concerned about constant update flagship phone are your best bet. Honor 8 is in a bad position because of it is a sub brand and has a smaller team you won't get update as often. However it is still a flagship of honor brand thus might qualify for 2 yr support. If you can buy it at the price of midrange phone like p10lite go ahead coz it's a capable phone you won't feel like it's a cheap phone performance wise come android O.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
It all comes down to promises: if a brand makes a promise to support a device for 2 years and release the source code, and then disregard them, it makes untrustworthy. Simple.

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That "except" is the tricky part isn't it? It's security, something with you should roll your dices and see how it goes. We can discuss features but not so security. And Huawei/Honor is always way behind schedule to release security patches. Just not acceptable.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii [MENTION=387533]zinko_pt[/MENTION]

Well they did said to give us 2 years of updates

But you know what?

There had been an update in februar this year

Now 3 months later there is the B381

So what are you guys expecting?! Every month an update?! Come on!! No phone has every month one update

And it is yet to be seen if we will get the android O couse this phone is not evan 12 months on the market.. So I think this is just enough of support for now.. couse I am satisfide with it. And I do belive that we will get the android O update but please when it is released go ahed and complain then.. like the O is 2 months out we did not get it by now and so on.. it is all over the xda the same story for every phone.. GET REAL FOR ONCE
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Please tell me how. I have January on B380.

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This seems to be your first Honor/Huawei because history is not on your side.

What is also not in your side is other brands who are more diligent with security updates. But don't take my word for it, just pull your head from the sand and visit some other brand's forums. You still find people complaining but comparatively with no reason whatsoever, given how poor brands like Huawei and Xiaomi behave regarding updates and fixes.

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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii again [MENTION=387533]zinko_pt[/MENTION]

Now to be clear it is my first Huawei

But not just you said that history is not on my side

It is just on my side

Couse I had in my history many different smartphones so I can tell

it is always the same story evan with some iPhones or Samsung or LG or Sony

And it is just like you say in your post

people complaining but comparatively with no reason whatsoever

So my point is you guys always complain and not being real for once..

That is what I am saying and it is the same for all phones not just Huawei..

Those people will buy other phone and again complain
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Again, latest (available) security is from January.

I belong to the group who believes in service level and keeping with commercial promises. Luring people to buying products based on false promises is just wrong, from any point of view. If you're happy with it, great for you.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii [MENTION=387533]zinko_pt[/MENTION]

Are you not on the latest B381??

Couse that one came out with the march security

Look at the attached picture
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Have you installed yourself manually or have a lucky EMEI?

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You might have FRD L04... I have a FRD L09... ???
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] carnivalrejectq:
I just got mine and I'm on B360, no update available.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii [MENTION=387533]zinko_pt[/MENTION] and hii to [MENTION=3510429]carnivalrejectq[/MENTION]

I have also the FRD L09

But installed it manually with the dload method

So I did not get it via ota [MENTION=3510429]carnivalrejectq[/MENTION] I also had the B360 but downloaded the latest B381 and installed it manually with the dload method
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sikica133:
technically, updates were guaranteed for US only if im not mistaken.

as far as security patches go, usually they are not as critical as people believe and more often than not just a PR. eg. stagefreight exploit was easily fixed with 3rd party apps.

that being said, they shouldn't have lied in the first place. honor8 is a decent phone, it would sell well since its a great value/performance combo. this kinda ruins their reputation, and makes you wonder whether you can trust anything they say. p10 fail doesnt help huawei either.

biggest issue for me tho, is the "cooperation bs" they tried to pull with xda. +no sources, they messed it up big time
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] luisjo_ace:
Of course.... I would buy it again, without hesitation

Enviado desde mi FRD-L09 mediante Tapatalk
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] francesco_mnz:
Thanks everyone. Don't think I'm buying Honor 8 coz price raised:/ I'll probably go for Redmi note 4 snapdragon, Lenovo p2 or don't know yet;)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sikica133:
well, if money is an issue, you're kinda stuck, and prolly should go for the cheapest device, but generally, i'd stay away from rn4. owned rn3pro (snap650) which crushes snap625, and its been a major letdown. sure, for the price its nice, awesome battery life, but general performance and fluidity is just bad. even with cm13/14, it simply doesnt perform nearly as good as honor on stock. now imagine that on a slower cpu/gpu combo.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] AdliHebat:
I just got mine a few weeks ago since Huawei seems to raised their flagship P10 price compared to P9 a year ago. I owned Redmi 1, Redmi Note 4g and Asus Zenfone Laser 2. Honor 8 on stock is much better than those phone modded. Xiaomi software quality is not doing any better after 3 years so I would avoid them.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii to all

So considering now this comments I find it very intresting to read them..

Like sometimes people and users just say that Honor 8 is bad or no support for it

But now when you try to get it replaced it seems that the Honor 8 on stock is very good

And for the price it seems that is still the best or one of the best choices in that range

My conclusion now reading this would be it is like I always say.. we have more

than some other phones have in this price range..

But users and owners of Honor 8 are still not happy with it and evan are disappointed

becouse of the bad partnership between XDA and Huawei
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] takichiman:
Absolutely f*cking no.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Some good news, maybe good..

It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.

Read more in the link below

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] trainpunk:
I already purchased a redmi note 4x...i regret buying honor 8 but i will keep it as a second phone
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sikica133:
it all depends on where you live and how cheap you can get it. thing is, honor8 usually gets decent discounts, you can go even lower with a monthly plan and bundle it with a free screen replacement during your contract, which is just great (thats how i got mine). however, when you consider a full price of 350-400e without contract, its kinda expensivish compared to other chinese brands. it's all about price and warranty.

xiaomi/letv devices are cheap, decently build, and you can get them from ali/bgood/gb etc., for 1/3 of the price, but good luck with your warranty. unless you buy them from a reputable store within EU/US, you're kinda screwed on that part, and if you do so you'll pay 50-ish% more for the same device. if you tend to switch devices on a regular basis (1device/year), you should buy one of theese. you'll prolly replace them anyways before any major issues occur, and they will serve you well during that period. however if you're doing a longterm investment (2years+/device), theese devices are simply a no-no. if you dont like huawei, shell some moar $, get a op3/axon with warranty and youre golden, if they're available. in my case, op3 was 150e on top of honor8's price, so simply not worth it. id be happy to own one, but yeah, too expensive.

as far as "qq-ing" goes, i'd say we have the right to do so because we were mislead by honor. then again it was naive of us to expect anything different, this is usual huawei policy. i might not be happy with huawei/honor and their actions, but h8 is simply a solid device and its sad it cant be more than a emui-experience-device.

so tldr would be:

1. if you are a flashoholic/dislike emui/android purist: this is not a device for you

2. if you want great battery life: yeah, no, get a different device. 4-ish hours is kinda low, esp compared to other devices on the market

3. if you want constant updates: noooope, then again gl finding a device thats not a pixel/nexus, with constant updates. MIUI's policy of new updates every week is crap, its just a somkescreen with no actual benefits.

4. if you dont mind emui's quirks, and plan on keeping it stock: definitely, go ahead and buy it. its a solid experience. if all you need is a phone that just works straight from the box, this is the one

5. if you want a good looking device (well, subjectively good looking anyways): yup, it looks gorgeous, even better than on pictures

6. if you cant afford it: ... self-explanatory eh?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Hii [MENTION=4955438]sikica133[/MENTION]

Well it is a good experiance share with all of us

But I do not agree with some of it

First regarding the Huawei partnership

I got some news on this today

Look at this link below

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546

Now the rest would be like

1) yes you are right with this.. if you are android purist this is a no go phone

2) if you for battery this is a good one with the battery.. many of us had reported to have 9 hours SOT in one day of battery.. then like 6 hours of SOT in 2 day of battery.. and some having like the 3 day still 40% battery left.. but some of you have also the battery drain wich I think is solved with the B381 update ..

3) constant updates well no you should go for the google pixel one if you care for that one

4) if you like it as is out of the box it is a great device.. good value for that money

5)if you want the good looks its the best I saw.. and it looks great.. just awesome
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sikica133:
pretty sure its impossible to go 5-6+hrs on this one. not without major compromises. restrictive lte/wifi usage, restirctive location usage might push it to 6, but imo that doesnt count. realistically, battery averages around 4.5hrs even on MM. i could push it to 9 too, with big cluster throttled down, and across 2-3 days, but that doesnt count. comparatively, my rn3pro even with an inefficient cpu like snap650, with no battery savings and all bells and whistles pushes well over 8hrs, consistently. sure its 3Ah v 4Ah, but still, deffo 40%+ higher SOT on a 28nm v 16nm. as far as reported 9hrs goes, could be the case, if you're watching a video/yt for 9hrs, but try mixing browsing/heavy apps or try stretching it to 2 days, and you'll see that SOT drops to 4ish hrs, and that idle/standby drain is pretty significant. this results are pretty much consistent with every battery test for h8 out there too. average 4-5hrs, on video 9ish, browsing 11ish. so no, you cant rly say it's 9hrs sot. its not the worst battery performance i've seen, but its deffo not the best considering its a 3Ah battery for 5.2" and 16nm cpu, even if its a72.

as far as my battery drain goes, i'm getting exactly the same sot both on MM and N(381), so no issues here.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
The picture in the attachment are from me

And that day I did listen the most time music on you tube, some other videos on you tube and browsing.. but as you can see it was running constantly.. always awake with wi-fi always on, dual sim but I do not game on my phone, for that I do it on my PC.. so this is definatly not 4 to 5 hours.. I get around 6 hours in two days with one charge..

And maybe something else to say is no Facebook or any social app too.. and not evan powersaving mode turned on.. so its off..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] sikica133:
so no lte and no syncing with fbook/wapp/mail etc. thats what i meant by restrictive usage. its not really a real world representation of battery usage. but i get what you're saying. for you, its giving good results. however, in that case, say rn3p would give you close to 13-14hrs. comparatively, its doing worse, is all im saying.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] brljak83:
Yes, no lte but some sync with mail and location turn on.

But I would not call it restrictive couse to run it this way like I did that day it uses a lot of cpu usage..