yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
All in all I am satiesfied with my TC. I can live with the lack of drivers but next time they won't get my money that easy. They claim to be an alternative to the iPhone. Hm, I don't think so. All what they've done is to put an huge amount of hardware features in one device and put a windows mobile on top. You can say what you want about Apple, but they spend much time in optimizing their software. That's why they don't need that impressive hardware. I think HTC shouldn't try to create hundreds of different products. Instead they should focus on a small product line but offer a full support for these devices.

One thing I really complain about the TC is the horrible display. Maybe Windows can't display more than 65k colours, but it's not responsible for that horrible viewing angle (when you use the device crosswise). I will be glad to spend more money on a device if it gets some better display.
[Touch Cruise General] cloud1:
i feel htc has betrayed it's very loyal fanbase by releasing a half finished phone (well more than one)

it's our duty to make sure people are aware of this neglect and disreguard for phone performance so that people don't waste money on what they thought would be a step up from their current phone.

it's a shame that perhaps more time has been spent making the case look pretty, and less on the function, speed and stability of the device.

i've cancelled my order, i know i'm not the first and i definately won't be the last

time to look at e-ten
[Touch Cruise General] mkrygeri:
Qualcomm site problems??? msm7200

It seems like all the links to tech info are dead now. Coincidence?

I wannted to see if the site showed the graphics porttion on the chip.

Something smells awefully fishy.

This could give HTC and Qualcomm a huge black eye.

Look at pdadb.net. almost all the new phones are based on the MSM7200.

Nobody's going to pay big bucks if they are going to perform like dog snot.
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
When HTC's stocks will begin to plummet thanks to the negative campaign they'll have to reconsider fixing the issue :D
[Touch Cruise General] kha:
I was planing to change my TyTN I to Cruise, but definitely need to rethink again...

But as HTC, this is really common behavior from them. Always HTC devices needs 2 to 3 upgrades before it's fully usable :)
[Touch Cruise General] rhov23:
Function and stability is good! Its only driver issue that is the problem, otherwise it's a fantastic device!
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
Let's hope you're right. I really want more speed. To think that I almost bought the Elf, having CPU/2 and RAM/2! ...
[Touch Cruise General] Bodisson:
Hehe...

It's not only HTC. I remember Siemens bussiness class mobile phones (S series)... they were working as they should after 6th or so OS upgrades... ;)
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
But finally they worked ;)
[Touch Cruise General] wywywywy:
Well the Toshiba G900 never worked :D

And the slowness of Eten X800 cannot be fixed with any driver!
[Touch Cruise General] kirileman:
Once again, people overreact. Most of all, its a completely wrong timing. First we exaggerate about how perfect the new Kaiser with this fantastic new-generation qualcomm chip is (with "gps-fm radio-tv out-coffee making" built-in support) and then we curse on HTC for giving us completely useless devices. As soon as one guy says something like this, the rest of internet community follows. Once again we see the worst face of the internet and i am getting sick of this story. Search the truth by yourself, don't believe anyone.
[Touch Cruise General] jabok:
It makes coffee?! How cool! :) Can I I use it's wireless to connect to my Gaggia? :confused:

;)
[Touch Cruise General] alperak:
What do you think about udk diamond rom ? is it stable ? and is there any development graphical performance of htc in this rom ?
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Actually I am not using it...Hehe I was thinking about it though..I downloaded it and I just flashed hard splv2 today..I think i'm gonna flash udk diamond r4 tonight..I guess I'll report back...From that thread though people have been saying that it does offer some improvement over the stock rom. How much exactly is probably a matter of opinion. I'll let you know.

Edit:

Installed udK diamond r4

It's nicely customized but I don't notice any drastic speed improvements..

Maybe a little

The icons / themes for htc home and dialer are great though, i love this rom
[Touch Cruise General] doaneramma:
Hello Doan,

Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch Cruise.

Thank you for taking the time to contact, HTC. I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing an issue with video playback and camera frame rate on your HTC Touch Cruise, Doan. I know how frustrating it can be to not have your device function the way it should.

At this time I am unable to confirm information about onboard drivers or upcoming software updates to your phone. However we do appreciate any and all feedback our customers can offer. At HTC we strive to implement all suggestions into our periodic software updates for our phones. In order to keep an eye on the latest software updates you may view our worldwide HTC website at www.htc.com/www. You may also wish to register your Touch Cruise at our HTC E-Club. You will find this area by clicking on the E-Club tab in the top portion of our website. ROM updates will be hosted in this section as they become available for your phone.

Again I apologize I could not offer more information, Doan. However I assure you that we have taken note of your concern. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.

HTC Technical Support

http://www.america.htc.com

http://www.htcwiki.com
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
Drivers in "Toshiba G810"

Sorry for the ignorance people, but has anyone check the drivers for the new "Toshiba G810".

From what i read it has built in the same "Qualcomm MSM7200".

Is it possible to "borrow" the drives?

You can check the device here:

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1082

Sorry for my bad English!
[Touch Cruise General] milli260876:
think if it was that simple they'd have nicked the tytn drivers by now??

anyway just code h264/mp4 use coreplayer bye bye problem...:eek:
[Touch Cruise General] dyter:
The phone hang at boot up with d3dm drivers !

What is the files drivers used in WM6.1 French CE 5.2.19212 V1.0 UC rom

(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396625) ?

The scroll screen is more fast in this rom !
[Touch Cruise General] boab29:
a new rom on e-club htc

hello

i just seen it now

a new rom from htc on e-club htc

i download it

someone try it ?

there is the driver in it?

sorry for my poor english
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Yes, I saw it a few minutes ago! Is this ROM obsolete? is it including some new drivers? I can't find any changelog!
[Touch Cruise General] Bodisson:
If I can see correctly, ROM date on that picture is 2007-10-05 and version 1.06.405.1

My ROM says 2007-11-12 and is ver. 1.25.405.1

So I don't get it... there's NO new ROM for Polaris on HTC e-club... Or there should at last be ROM as I have...
[Touch Cruise General] boab29:
:confused:

i see the date rom 2007-10-05

but i have a french cocked rom so i don't know if there any change

the only thing i can see is the new version radio

i try it tomorow

i'll hever seen
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Don't pay attention to the image. It's a generic image. Somebody must flash his/her device to see which is the version and whether it comes with something interesting.
[Touch Cruise General] tuner84:
I don't see the update on the e-club, however i've registered my device :confused:

Once the update will be available to download, i'm ready to flash it :D

Is it WM 6.1?

EDITH: My device has no branding.
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
I also don't see any update available, and i'm registered since i bought my polaris.

Please when possible give us news!
[Touch Cruise General] Aldoliene2:
rom update

Also no upgrade here (dutch). Maybe they do it by language?:confused:
[Touch Cruise General] boab29:
i'm in france

and the rom support in english
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
I can't hear anything but complaints. Have I to upload the ROM for you to download?

C'mon!
[Touch Cruise General] boab29:
ok

i ve install it on my cruise

bad news

it's on wm6

os 5.2.1623

rom 1.25.405.1

12/11/2007

radio 1.58.2123

protocol 25.65.30.04h

and the last no driver video

poor fps for the camera

bad rom beurk
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
**UPDATE**17/07/08

Full documentation here:

http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1

These Drivers for the Kaiser are a big step forward, as these could?! also be used but probably modified for the polaris.

Cookers, attention!
[Touch Cruise General] keethar:
Let the porting begin

Niiiice!!! Let's hope the porting goes smoothly.
[Touch Cruise General] gregy74:
Just one question. HX4700 also have ATI imageon "video chip". A lot of HX4700 ROMs are Kaiser based. Kaiser and Polaris are basicly same models. Can we maybe use drivers for HX4700 on Polaris and Kaiser devices:confused::confused::confused:
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
NEED THEM ON POLARIS NOW!!! PayPal, here we go! who is responsible of doing such a great job? Please, accelerate our machines: HTC left us on the roadside miserably
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
the hacker is anonymous
[Touch Cruise General] benleonheart:
anonymous.

good move on him remaining anonymous.

at least the ones who know KNOW.

Good job man, keep it up.

I'm looking forward to this so much.

<3!
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
new rom?

not on my htc e-club

and holy CRAP at that video on HTCCA!!!!!!

I am so excited!!!!!!

It'll be on polaris ASAP i bet!!!!!
[Touch Cruise General] epimazzo:
Manaaa,

link is not working!:p

Thanks for sharing anyway!:cool:
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Hey, the link is working, but the page cuts a part of it. Go to http://www.htcclassaction.org and follow the link that is at the upper part of the site (Update).
[Touch Cruise General] epimazzo:
:D:D:D

Simple isn't?:rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
ty, edited!
[Touch Cruise General] VictorC666:
i hope, these drivers will be ported to polaris soon :-) with full screen support :P
[Touch Cruise General] secoseco:
and 2D support

but what I want to know did this driver will solve camera issue
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
I've just made a donation of 5€ for "HTC Class Action" to encourage that person to develop the drivers for Polaris. I trust in you.
[Touch Cruise General] rhov23:
Wow! BOnanza!
[Touch Cruise General] ridli:
htc update

Hi,

A friend talk with HTC some days ago and someone from the tecnical support from taiwan say the update for polaris to win mobile 6.1 is finished in september and maybe with a fix for drivers.
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
that would be really nice. i think i like htc now again *g*
[Touch Cruise General] DhakouaniM:
2D/3D drivers for Polaris

Keep up the good work, guys ! You're gonna make some HTC fans even happier !

Mehdi
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
About HTC!

Since the start of the "driver issue" HTC has said one thing and made another.

I think the best chance to get the drivers is if we trust in this great community and not in HTC.

XDA-DEVELOPERS ROCKS!!!:D
[Touch Cruise General] ridli:
yes xda-developers rocks, but its a good notice if HTC have a driver finished in september, maybe the other driver with opengl se better but if we have one from HTC is anocher choice or anyone can do a "mix" for do a nice 2d & 3d driver.

Maybe HTC realese a polaris rom with the same "fix" from kaiser.

Now we dont have nothing, only a beta driver for Kaiser and a few words from HTC, only air at the moment
[Touch Cruise General] secoseco:
that is 100% true, if we follow promises HTC then we will live in a big illusion

The proof is what did HTC done for Kaiser drivers ?? nothing

and who try to solve and fix the Kaiser drivers ??

sure not HTC
[Touch Cruise General] MossY_DoG:
Back on Topic...

OK, back on topic - away from slateing HTC and their lack of support. are any of the Cooks trying to get this ported over?? should i be holding my breath?
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
Fresh news

There are fresh news on the drivers development at "HTCClassaction".:)
[Touch Cruise General] camro:
but also - we need a special freak to modify the important .dll's to handle the d3d correctly...
[Touch Cruise General] NeoS:
Let's hope a talented cook fixes it. Then i got a good reason to update to wm 6.1.
[Touch Cruise General] swtos:
TC's ddi.dll import & export table (image1-2)

Kaiser's new ddi.dll import & export table (image 3-4)

Cmonex is the only person that can help us with patching ddi.dll
[Touch Cruise General] sqeeza:
What about a poll on Donating for driver port

I am curiously following the driver issue since months and happy they are moving forward. We really need these to finally unleash the Polaris. Unfortunately I can not contribute since this is way beyond my coding skills :mad:

I am not long enough with this forum to know who will be the talented ROMcookers (left) that can implement and port these drivers, anyone? I know few switched over to different devices already.

However I am willing to donate to stimulate starting this development. Anyone knows how to manage this fund/ award? :confused:

What do you think about a poll "Who would donate for a ported Polaris driver?" Is there already a better thread than this one?

Cheers
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
**UPDATE**29/07/08

Updated driver package, full-screen and Manila

Full documentation here:

http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080729_1

NO need to install directly on Bepe's last Roms for Polaris

The provided .cab isnt working for the Polaris as on Kaiser.

Installation is successfull, but the Light.exe to proove coudlnt initiate D3D.

This needs further modify!
[Touch Cruise General] imfloflo:
How can it be install on bepe's last Roms for Polaris, the drivers did not yet exist at the time bepe release the 0.67 rom
[Touch Cruise General] NuShrike:
Port a working ddi.dll from Diamond or Kaiser WM6.1 and then KaiserGL drivers will work for you.
[Touch Cruise General] boart:
Do HTC

... own Driver Package from Qualcom? Does this include also drivers for Polaris? Or only for Diamond?!
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Is anyone working on porting this for the polaris yet?

I will donate funds but I need to know who to donate to or if anyone is even bothering making stuff for our device.
[Touch Cruise General] ss1271:
hTC replies me:

Dear Allen, Thank you for your email dated 02/08/2008 which brings up your comment for our attention. Your valuable comments will be passed to the related department for service improvement. For your information, hTC is committed to delivering a portfolio of devices that offer a wide variety of communication, connectivity and entertainment functionality. HTC does not offer dedicated or optimized multimedia devices and can confirm that its Qualcomm MSM7xxx-based devices do not use ATI¡¦s Imageon video acceleration hardware. hTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smartphones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats. hTC values its customers and the overall online community of mobile device enthusiasts and fans. hTC plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support. Again, please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience caused by this matter. Should you have any further inquiry, please do not hesitate to contact our hTC Customer Service Hotline and our Customer Service Representative is delighted to serve you. Thanks for your inquiry and we are looking forward to serving you again. hTC Customer Service Hotline Hotline: (852) 35201234 Operating Hour: 09:00 - 19:00, Monday - Saturday

======================

is this mean that hTC will not provide Polaris video driver and turn to announce a new type of device instead?
[Touch Cruise General] maximos86:
what i read was:

bla bla bla... we dont care... bla bla bla... fix it yourselves... bla bla bla... if you want hardware acceleration buy the diamond.... bla bla bla... if u care for more excuses please dnt hesitate to contact me....
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
hehe.....you forgot....bla bla bla......i dont know something about this ppc....
[Touch Cruise General] ss1271:
ha~

That's funny.

hTC seems will not care about any so called 'obsolete' devices...

crap.
[Touch Cruise General] ratapoil:
The signification is clear enough for me : "don't worry about your old machines like polaris and so; let's get f*ck out of there and die !"

Thx HTC !
[Touch Cruise General] ss1271:
The video driver finally disappeared in hTC official update...

and still, hTC does not provide any information about when to provide WM6.1 for Polaris...
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
well, the polaris was my last htc. every htc has a big problem. my next one will by the iphone generation 4.....
[Touch Cruise General] timmymarsh:
Touch Cruise wm6.1 update

Well i faxed HTC HQ in Taiwan 3 days ago complaining about many things inc drivers, wm6.1 update and Europe support (or lack of it) including not answering or acknowledging my emails.

I had a phone call from HTC Europe. THey say WM6.1 will be be realeased in early September. THe update will or should rexolve the video playback/driver issues. He could not be more specific on how, but assured me things will be better with the 6.1 release.

Fingers crossed!!!!

btw HTC did not bother to reply via email or letter but pureply by a phone call:mad:
[Touch Cruise General] ridli:
maybe they dont reply any email becouse they dont want to have legal problems. If you have a e-mail from HTC where they say this update fix this problems and have video drivers you can demand htc if isnt true... or maybe dont reply becouse they dont have anything to say.
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
I send three letter them no any reply, nothing..... :mad:
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
not to beat a dead horse...but every time i email them they talk about "high resolution video" / "video playback"

I don't know about anyone else, but I can play back 728 x 480 encoded xvids just fine with coreplayer (qtv enabled)

It's everything else that's slow, including the touch screen itself.

I tell them what does switching from landscape to portrait mode have to do with playing back high resolution video?

They say nothing, and I say well then why does it take up to 10 seconds to do this then?

Then they tell me that the connectivity of the device should matter more than performance...yada yada yada

I wonder if they are doing that (claiming we are complaining about high resolution video playback) on purpose or if they're just complete idiots..or both.
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
I buy htc because I thinked it's good company, My next device will be other brand I saw video other brand for example look asus I hope this time we will find out but for next time we will be more smart to buy htc devices

asus look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfIPBqz2WM
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Wow JAYMasta, looks just as smooth (if not smoother) than the iphone, everything the polaris should have been.

Nice post, I like.
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
Wow

Amen!!! :D
[Touch Cruise General] cellshadow:
Call me a cynic, but to me it looks more like a showcase rendering rather than a real device...
[Touch Cruise General] benjimen:
I agree -- looks very much like a video running on a device -- no WM device can do all that without pausing, showing the 'busy' animated icon, or spontaneously rebooting :D
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Maybe ASUS have accomplished the impossible?

Somehow found a way to make WM fast?
[Touch Cruise General] Bodisson:
No way!

We're talking about Windows here... ;)
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
I don't want to go too off topic but the samsung omnia looks like a sick device!

http://samsungomnia.com/

it basically has everything the polaris has, with a much better processor and a radio with RDS, way more internal storage, a much better UI (samsungs own "HTCHome/touchflo/manilla" like program that looks very smooth unlike HTC), and 3d/2d graphics acceleration, and a bigger screen. Very expensive though...still not as much as I paid for the Polaris! How Ironic.
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
damn, that is a nice phone.
[Touch Cruise General] peaceboy:
Well, yea it's a good phone...I played with it for a few days but ultimately switched back to the Cruise for 2 very simple reasons

1) The Omnia doesn't have a stylus, it's external...i need a stylus slot in a phone

2) The Omnia doesn't have the navigation wheel (I got sooo used to the wheel and directional pad, esp for Guitar Hero mobile hehe)

Because of those 2 reason (however stupid they may be), i just couldn't get use to the Omnia and decided to go back to the Cruise in the end....i just wish the Cruise will have a driver some time in the future...sigh...the Omnia is F.A.S.T..unlike the cruise...but i guess i could still live with the flaws of the Cruise
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
Samsung Omnia D3D Driver!

Now that we're talking about Omnia has anyone tried this drivers on Polaris:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416474

I've tried it and noted some improvements, for example the cube in UltimateLaunch is much smother.

Maybe placebo?!?

I would like others to try and share there experience.

You don't need to wory it's a simpel cab, just install it and soft-reset.

You can revert back just by unistall it.
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
any improvement on polaris original rom wm.6.0 ?
[Touch Cruise General] worstenbrood:
installed the omnia driver, it can be my imagination but the device seems to go smoother :)
[Touch Cruise General] Quilapvd:
Woot with this driver (The http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416474 Samsung Omnia) i can run the lights.exe (kaiser drivers). BUT, the performance is low on the program because it could not find some hardware stuff.

Ok im gonna type the window pop ups to here:

First one:

Driver:

Desc: Intel XSCALE

Optimized D3DM Driver

Id: 0

Ident: 9c59509a-39bd-11d1-6449-02c040ad954c5

Name: D3DMXSC50PB.DLL

Vendor: 0

Next one:

Hardware Rasteraztion: False.

Next one:

Hardware T&L: False.

Next one:

Using System Memory.

So what is this about?!

IT RUNS GOD DAMMIT.

Not good but it runs, and the whole device looks smoother.

Maybe if i install the kaiser drivers that it wil work better.

Lets Try out.

(If it works better i will edit this post.. else you know what happened).

Edit:

After the Kaiserdriver (Post 2 this topic), I Couldn't run lights.exe.

So maybe we need to modify the omnia driver.

Just my two cents.

Greets.
[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
At the Kaiser forum they are trying to "mix" the Omnia drivers and the HTCClassaction drivers.

I hope they will get it to work, because i can't wait for them to be ported to Polaris.:D

For now we can "play" with the Omnia drivers.

I don't know much of graphics, but i can sense also a diference (smother) with FinalBurn and the MetalSlug2 rom.:cool:
[Touch Cruise General] voxel.:
i test SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D

i test SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D (with ROM SFR official) :

- display video is better :)

- camera is better :)

Score graphic test with Spb BenchMark 1.6:

DDB : 2ms

DIB : 26ms

GAPI : 2ms

i keep testing...
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
Do you really need a stylus built-in since it has an optical mouse?

Hey how was the camera, it's quoted at 5MP looks high quality. How does it perform in low light? The phone overall is a lot more fluid. Did you see how fast the screen rotates. The 8 or 16GB internal memory with card slot is awesome! The EDGE/GSM frequencies are quad band. Anyone know the HSDPA frequencies? Tri-band? Screen brightness?