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[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
But I remember it was not like that back in the day on Android 4/KK. At that time I lost like 1% over night over night no matter if connected via WiFi or mobile. It all started with LP and upward. So I still think that there is something wrong with that and I can only hope it will get fixed in Android O.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mocassino:
Really can't believe, maybe the point is to compare two device with different apps/configuration, beyond the OS version. Probably, at that time, in the night time your configuration didn't use connection at all
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] DV87XDA:
Alright, after that discussion here about whether data needs more battery than wifi or not, i have the following to say.:

First, I recently updated from L09C342B130 to B133. Im not happy about the firmware, for me it seems it has less SoT than the B130.

At least thats my impression...

These days im going to update to b152 hoping this FW will improve battery life again.

In the screenshots u can see, that from 100% to 60% i had a good SoT with 2.5 hours. with the normal battery save mode enabled (which doesnt save that much battery compared to the normal mode).

You can see that the AndoidOS used only a little bit battery compared when it was not connected to wifi, using data..

This is the main Problem. With the P10Plus connected to wifi it has a decent SoT. As soon as it uses data it is terrible.

Do you guys experienced the same or is it just me?

The AndroidOS should always have a low battery consumption. Android System (system apps) and other apps more. At least it is like that at my fathers Mate9, which has a great battery life and at other phones with great SoT as well.

What do you think? Do you guys have the same impression?

Best regards

Dennis
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Gezzaman8:
Updating from B124 to B133 worked very well for battery.

Getting 0 Battery drain overnight (around 8 hours) connected to Wifi, it used to drain 2~3% on older firmware.

Avg SoT from B124 was 4.5 hours. B133 boosted it up to 5.5 hours - 6 Hours.

4G mobile data does drain a lot of battery though so Ive kept 4G off. H+ is enough for most occasions anyways.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M.KK:
Who can say the battery life is bad for huawei?

P10 PLUS BATTERY Life is GREAT.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mocassino:
single screenshot of SOT does say nothing
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M.KK:
What you want.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M.KK:
It's OK

Finally..

[youtube]6rSGYZeBows[/youtube]
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
Absolutely. And like I said from my point of view this became an issue from Android 5 / LP and up. I haven't been Huawei user back then (Sony) but a lot of people noticed something had changed back then. On Android 4 there was almost zero battery drain when the phone was in an idle state, REGARDLESS of being connected to Wifi or mobile data, with my Xperia Z3C i used to get up to three days running time and 8-9 hours SOT. I then went from Android 4 to 6 then and all of a sudden the running time got drastically reduced when on mobile data (not on wifi though!), because the system processes would consume so much battery during idle times. Went back to Android 4, everything fine again. I also noticed the same behaviour on all kinds of devices from other manufacturers. It has also been discussed in various place here on XDA but it seems there is just nothing that can be done about it. Even when you have root and can use Greenify, Amplify and the likes it is not a real cure for the problem. Like I said earlier the only workaround I can think of is to simulate a wifi-connection even when on data but I don't know of a way to do that without root.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mocassino:
that's better, but just a question: did you are always in 2g mode? I mean: this battery test was on wifi connection only?
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M.KK:
No i use 2g 3g 4g but the biggest use is wifi.

Wi-Fi connected all time.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] DV87XDA:
Hey m.kk thanks for the video. But sorry this is just absolutely not possible.

This amount of screen on time is way too much . Not even with the best setup.

What model do you have ?

What firmware are you running ?

And what did u do ? Root ?! Deleting system apps?!

And please post screens of one battery cycle without being connected to WiFi

I still believe, No I'm 100% sure, that u just switched your display to 10 mintues on or always on and left your phone like this.

Sorry 8 hours is freaking crazy man.

And if it's the truth provide us with more information

Thanks and have a nice day

Regards

Dennis
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M.KK:
I don't understand why you are not trust me i m a normal user and i m in VKY-L29 C185 B133 fully stock and not rooted and not disabled any applications and i use mobile whole day what's up Facebook and viber voice calls all day use. Ok
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
I think it's possible to get 8 hours but not everyday.

With wifi and indoor use so low screen brightness and without gaming it's achievable.

I could get 4:30-5:00 sot all gaming indoor on 4g.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
So far, battery sucks in this phone. I'm on the latest B150 that came by OTA, with full factory reset and wiped of cache and internal memory.

Is not my first Huawei, and also I had the Mate 9 and I could easily get 8-9 hrs. SOT in 2 days, but with the P10 Plus I'm getting half of that over a day, which I find pathetic when batteries are similar size, the same as specs.

Stand by time is great, overnight I get only 1% battery drain with all sync and so on, but as long as I start using it, the device gets really hot and battery drain is crazy.

Right now I'm at 60% with 1:30 hrs. SOT, which I find ridiculous, when phones with less battery can last way more. I have great coverage and most of the time I'm using WiFi, so the battery drain doesn't come from signal issues. I don't have any drain from any app, I already checked that, but it seems that drain actually comes from using it due poor optimizations. Mate 9 was an ice cube while using it, and it never got too hot even when playing games, and for me is a joke that just browsing some news or using WhatsApp the device gets so hot that is uncomfortable to hold.

Pretty much I'm disappointed with this, because is the first Huawei which has a really bad battery.

:crying:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
You should consider the possibility that you may have a faulty device because that sounds very unusual, my device doesn't get anywhere near this hot.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I was considering the same, but it seems that many users are experiencing the same in many forums, so I guess is more due software optimization than a hardware problem.

Also I'm having issues with the camera, so 3 things already that don't seem ok with this device.

:confused:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hackdrag0n:
I also had the Mate 9 and this very much reflects my experience. Thanks for sharing as some people were implying that there was something wrong with my setup a few weeks ago. It's not - setup is much the same across every device I own - there's just something badly flawed about the p10 plus.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I can only think in blaming EMUI 5.1, because version 5.0 was working really nice in the Mate 9.

I think I will return the phone this weekend and stick with my old Axon 7 for a while, which is half the price and far way better than this pseudo phone.

:cyclops:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
Well I don't experience this at all and many other P10+ users do neither so neither the device nor EMUI 5.1 are flawed GENERALLY speaking.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
The problem is the screen and the gpu,2k not amoled consum more and the gpu is not power efficient,it work harder to deliver 2k content that's why the phone get hot and not as good as the mate 9.

So do not expect miracles,the battery is not bad and not the best as expected.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
The one thing doesn't have anything to do with the other - yes, battery consumption due to the kind of display is higher but in no scenario should the device ever get so hot just by browsing and stuff like that that it's uncomfortable to hold as [MENTION=4658859]Galaxo60[/MENTION] described. If that is the case there must be either something wrong with the hardware or something else is causing an usually high workload. However that's in no way a problem ALL of the P10+ devices have.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Well, I can say that many users are experiencing the same issues than me, a guy just replied in the previous page saying that he had the same experience. These issues are reported in other forums from other regions as well, not only here in XDA, so this is something that is happening to many users, maybe not the majority, but at least an important percentage and Huawei should address this immediately.

I don't know if this is because of my version (B150), because of the region model (C432) or because of the storage/RAM amount (128GB/6GB), but I find this pretty bad, to have such an expensive device that is not properly working mostly because of the crappy software, and I'm one of the few people that really like EMUI, but this version is unusable.

:silly:

My previous device (which I still currently have) is a QHD display as well, with 3200mAh of battery, and it lasts double than this P10 Plus.

The screen resolution is not the problem, screen technology is not the same as when the first QHD screens came to the market, and they are really energy efficient by now. The Kirin 960 is a beast of processor, and even when I thought about the same, I can't believe that such powerful processor can't handle a QHD resolution for browsing or even just having the screen on. This processor is done at 16nm, and even processors from past years didn't have these problems.

An app or signal is neither the problem, because stand by time is great, but just turn on the screen, and the craziness begins.

:crying:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
[MENTION=4658859]Galaxo60[/MENTION] what are the main battery consumers in the consumption overview after a typical day of usage?
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Honestly, is the worst battery I have ever had in a phone since I remember, I still can't believe it, after 2 successful experiences with Huawei phones, which for me was always synonym of good battery:

:eek:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
[MENTION=4658859]Galaxo60[/MENTION] you are right that the DOT is not exactly good, I get a lot more out of a full battery. Also i cant see any excessive battery usage by certain apps but if it were that easy you probably already would have solved this. Have you tried disabling the permanent WiFi- and Bluetooth-Scanning (Settings - Safety and Privacy - Location access - Three dots in the upper right corner - scanning options) as well as WiFi+ (Settings - WiFi settings)? I have heard from other people fighting excessive battery drain that it helped them a lot.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
That's at lower brightness playing clash royal,not bad but in daytime use i could Maximum achieve 4:30 sot playing.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I thought about disabling the WiFi and Bluetooth scanning, but most of the time in all the phones I leave them enabled because it makes no difference in battery consumption.

I will give a try disabling those on the next cycle and see if the consumption is better. I enabled the battery saver option and is giving me a little more juice, but it disables background data, sync mail and other things as well, so is kind of a bummer.

About WiFi+, I'm not sure if it drains battery, but I will give a try as well.

Thanks

:good:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Pretty much this guy confirms my experience with the battery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJdXobjh73M

TL; DR

Guy barely do 4hrs SOT on WIFi and 3.5hrs SOT in mixed use, which is really disappointing. On his own words: battery is a hit and miss.

:(
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Another cycle, this time with the battery saver enabled, which made no difference at all:

:silly:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
[MENTION=4658859]Galaxo60[/MENTION] sorry to hear that. What is odd though is that this time the software combined has consumed more battery than the hardware, but from my experience it should always be the other way round? It seems that especially the Google Acount Manager seems to have gone rampant. I assume you have been on mobile data instead of wifi for the most part?
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
Turn off Google backup and restore.

Clear data for Google play services.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I'm on mixed use, but I use Google Now, which I normally use in every phone I have. I will start a new cycle with the Wifi and Bluetooth scanning disabled and I will comment to see if it's improve.

Another thing I noticed is that phone is warm even when I'm not using it, first time I did in the morning was to check the temperature and it was 25°C, and then 25 minutes later of browsing just news, I was over 35°C, which seems like a joke.

:(

Well, actually I think is kind of silly to disable things that I use in any phone, and is not the solution at all. The problem here is a poor optimized software that goes crazy even when doing basics tasks. Disabling services is just a workaround, and I clearly see that Huawei has a big issue with this new version of EMUI.

;)
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Another cycle mostly in WiFi, which I find decent even when I would expect more because of the battery size:

:confused:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Battery usage when using the phone is not too bad but standby.. -2% per hour no matter what I do..

My old Mate 8 loses 2% in 6 hour and I'm using the exact same apps and settings on my P10 plus as my Mate 8..

Must be something in EMUI 5.1?

Can't think of anything else..
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
My conclusion after using the P10 Plus for a week and having the Mate 9 a couple of months ago, is that something is really bad with EMUI 5.1, and is poor optimized.

Mate 9 has the same specs than this P10 Plus, and it gets at least 8hrs SOT.

:(
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Hope Huawei fix it soon!
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
I updated to c151, battery life is absolute crap. It is tough to hit 4 hours SOT, my u11 is getting 5-5:30, g6 is averaging 6. Definitely souring my like of huawei, specially since I had the same issue on my mate 9 with absolute piss poor battery life.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrei Morar:
Have had the P10 Plus for about a week and have no issues with battery life. It easily gets me through the day with more than an hour of gaming and lots of browsing the web and Facebook.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
My same thoughts, I can't make over a day or more than 3:30 hours SOT in mixed use. Huawei messed up really hard this time with this device.

:(

Yes, it can make it through a day, but we are talking about the biggest battery from all flagships this year, so it should give so much more. Most of the 2017 flagships were released with a 3000mAh battery, and they last way longer than the P10 Plus that has a significant bigger battery.

For me is just pathetic, not having more than only 4 hours SOT while all other phones can have easily 5-6 hours SOT with smaller batteries. Something is wrong with EMUI 5.1, because I also had the Mate 9, with the very same specs (except screen) than the P10 Plus, it I could get easily 8 hours SOT. Difference is EMUI version, and I think there's something really broken in this version compared to the latest one.

:cyclops:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrei Morar:
Do you know if we are going to get the update to Nougat 7.1.1? This update brings battery improvements as far as I know.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
I guess you mean B151? Anyhow if you only just updated you should give things a little time to settle. Usually right after updating the battery life is always crap from my experience but its get better after a few cycles.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Yes, is true, but only for Android stock, and probably EMUI handles different the battery issues.

Nexus phones got battery drains fixed with 7.1.1, but I can't say about phones with heavy UI and battery tweaks modifications.

:confused:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
Yeah meant b151, always give it a few days afterword to let it settle. I factory reset last night and didn't install any apps to see if it helps. If the g6 or u11 had an ir blaster I'd be using them lol.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
Could be the 4 antennas consuming lot of battery?
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
As far as I know, the Mate 9 also had the same approach and there's no thing wrong with the battery.

;)
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Don't think so, I also have the regular P10 which doesn't have 4 antennas and it drains alot in standby too, same level as my P10 plus...
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrei Morar:
Today I tested the battery on my P10 Plus and got 5 hours of SOT with 15% battery left.

Out of the 5 hours I played Hill Climb 2 for 3 hours.

The rest was Facebook, Whatsapp, email etc

Pretty happy with my battery endurance. :)
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mos2003:
Honor 6x was much better in Battery usage than P10 plus dual sim i got both
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
After 2 weeks of horrible battery life and over heating the whole time, I returned my P10 Plus and I got the Mate 9 Pro, because they cost the same and they are virtually the same device with same specs.

After some days, I will put my findings here regarding battery life, because I consider is important to have a reference regarding what it should be a decent battery among devices, and people can have a clearer idea of what to expect or what should it be with the P10 Plus.

My personal conclusion is that something is really bad with EMUI 5.1, and now that I have the device to prove it (or not), I would share it with all of you.

Be pendant!

;)
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Would love to hear some feedback and comparisons.

I'm also thinking about swapping to Mate 9 pro if Huawei don't fix the crazy battery and heating problem very very soon...
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I will post my impressions after a couple of days, I'm still setting the device and installing my applications, so tomorrow would be the 1st day of normal usage and I will come back later with my findings because even when Huawei is my favourite brand, I think they messed hard this device and people need to know and complain about it, same as with the UFS fiasco.

:cowboy:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
Here's my u11 for today. I wish my p10 did half this. Anand tech found the p10 completely lacking compared to the mate 9 though so I am not to hopeful (lower binned soc taking a lot more power) http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5966ad55d4a48/Screenshot_20170712-161201.png?
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Craphead:
No matter what your findings are you will never be able to prove anything for the P10+ in GENERAL. Because there are a lot of people who do not have the problems you have and are simply happy with the device like me. And for the same reason you should stop trying to speak on behalf of ALL people who own it. I understand why you are not happy with the way it performed for you but all this generalizing talk like Huawei messed up the P10+ or messed up EMUI 5.1 is starting to get annoying because it's simply not true for all of them, not even for the majority of them. If that were the case you'd see aLOT more people making the same complaints. As I type this my device has been running for 30 hours with a SOT of over 5 hours and I still have 30% of battery left. Maybe not as good as the Mate 9 but still not bad. So if what you say were true for all the devices this wouldn't be possible. So complain all you want about your P10+ but please don't generalize.
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
It's the hardware lottery that Huawei proved they are using with storage and ram. Those of us with less quality parts suffer in battery life, even if we paid quite the sum for the phone

Good wrote up here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11292/performance-battery-life-report-huawei-p10/4 their p10 plus uses .3 more watts than the p10
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I don't know if you live under a rock, but I politely invite you to do a little of research and read to find out the status with this phone.

Here on XDA, also in other forums and even some in reviews on internet are having the same experience as me. I never said that everybody has the problem, but neither is 1 or 2 users that are experiencing this., and neither I'm speaking on behalf of all users, but I do in behalf of the ones that have the same problems of battery and overheating

The fact that you unit has no problems, doesn't mean that there are no problems at all, and if people is not complaining across the whole internet, is because the P10 Plus is not a popular phone, so no much people are buying it. I'm trying to complain and write, but when I do, you say is starting to get annoying, so what should I do?.

I know by now many persons with the same problems as I do, and even I reached Huawei Support team to explain the situation with other users as well, but they just say that is normal and the poor battery is because of the screen resolution and usage. For me this is a joke, I do the same with all my phones, I have the same cellular strength and all of them always give me at least 5 hours SOT.

I'm glad that you are happy with your unit, and I have found other people as well that are happy and with no problems, but there's something real for sure that is happening with this phone and is affecting a lot of users. My theory is that something is wrong with EMUI 5.1, because I have used other phones with EMUI 5.0 as well and they behave totally fine, with nice battery and without overheating issues. Other possibility could be that probably 30%-40% of the units are defective, but I can't say at all, because it would be impossible to know, but somehow that's the impression I have after reading and writing, that probably 2 out of 5 users are having these problems.

Anyway, I will post my findings for the ones that are interested, and the other part of you people with good units, shouldn't be annoyed, but should be supporting all of those who were not lucky enough to get a good device, because we don't come here as crazy or annoying people, but to receive support, find answers and help each other.

:good:
[Huawei P10 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ytgbg:
I have unit with UFS 2.0 made by Toshiba and DDR4 RAM.

I reach constantly 7 hours screen on time with my usage and don't have overheating issues (I don't play games and don't use Facebook app).

I am happy with it, I think I got lucky and don't suffered in the UFS/RAM lottery that's why I have good battery life, although not amazing.

That's the same battery I was getting with my Exynos S7 and to be fair I expected more, but it is what it is... Maybe next EMUI iterations will be more optimized and better on battery. One can only hope...