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[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
exactly! imho the polaris shouldn't even need a stylus if the screen worked how it should...but again, the screen is also small compared to most modern-touch based devices, so that also contributes to the problem.

thats just me though...my personal opinion is that a device that is touch based (especially a device that has TOUCH in it's name!) should NOT need a stylus. it should be 100% ready for finger navigation. styluses are obsolete imho.

i too would be interested to know how the camera performs.

on to the drivers...again, if someone is specifically working on this for the polaris and wants donations we should start a fund. i'm tired of our device being ignored :| i wish i knew enough to help but the only way i can is by donating.
[Touch Cruise General] w04g005:
Hey guys I have installed the cab file posted by herg62123 (HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers with omnia d3d driver.cab ) on my cooked german 6.1 ROM. I wanted to know if the omnia driver changed something in the driver developping. AND THERE IS A CHANGE

First i tried to start the "HTC-CA Drivers"-programs but none of them worked fluently...Except the Triangle...it worked fast...i tried the programs a second time and....suddenly "D3D Demo" and "Lights" worked fast and fluently !!!!

I wondered why the programs run in a second attempt...and then i saw that the "Triangle" program was active all the time. It couldn't get closed and ran in the background.

Anyone with same experiences?

thanks
[Touch Cruise General] Quilapvd:
I can close it.. else you press the red stop call button the you will come at your home screen, and from there you can close stuff.

Btw, what i've found out, the D3D programs are running very slow, but when you're pressing the start button (make some activity) it rotates faster etc.

So maybe is the driver atm only fully working when there is activity in the gui or something?
[Touch Cruise General] maati:
CorePlayer Benchmark

DirectDraw

without Omnia drivers: 165%

with Omnia drivers: 179%

Qtv:

without Omnia drivers: 159%

with Omnia drivers: 165%
[Touch Cruise General] RED21:
My unit runs slightly faster after installing the Omnia D3D driver.

My thanks to sakajati for posting the zip and HRQ.SLV for the link.

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[Touch Cruise General] HRQ.SLV:
Glad to be useful.

P.S.: AC/DC rules!:D
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
what next we still can't run touch flo 3d qvga - manilla wich is ported I think

any FPS with this driver of touch flo 3d qvga???
[Touch Cruise General] discovery531:
Its really faster a little bit after installed the Omnia driver!

And the strange thing same as w04g005. After running the triangle 3d demo application, and other 3d demo also running more smooth (though its was not very good)
[Touch Cruise General] sunsetraving:
Its really faster!

If you scroll in the Programms Folder you can see the better performance. I will test it with some applikations if the complete TC is more smoth.

Regards, Denny
[Touch Cruise General] NeoS:
Holy ****! Is it true the polaris can finally show us 3D?

Oh. nvm. The 3D programs bundled with the HTCCA drivers start, but they don't do anything until i close them. I see it moving for about .5 seconds...

aha. It only moves when i use open or close something. When i start the 3D testapp, it doesn't do anything until i click Startmenu.

Something in the omnia drivers made it possible to start 3D though. Before i installed it, nothing would start.

/me = happy :)
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Yes, I can confirm that my Polaris is only showing the first frame and the demos only update the screen when I close them, or when I tap on the Start menu.

I see no differences with the Omnia drivers since the icons flick are usual when I scroll the Programs folder.
[Touch Cruise General] epimazzo:
Well...

I think I'm getting some visual things different from you all. After install Omnia drivers and then run all samples, 3D is operational, running and fast. All samples are smoothly running on my HC.

I'm still doing some comparations cause need to know if what I see is what we want to see!:p

Which results should we expect during the sample tests?

Can anyone point it out here!

Cheers:cool:
[Touch Cruise General] rogro82:
Start the Triangle application... Dont press the screen but press the x to close the application and then start one of the other directx demo's... they will run smooth :)

Somehow only when the triangle demo is running the others are working great... strange thing is that the triangle demo is taking 90% of the cpu at that time but still the rendering of the other demo's speeds up quite a bit :confused:

Maybe the triangle demo forces something... im going to try to create an opengl app this weekend that doesnt draw anything to see if this also changes the behaviour of the other apps.
[Touch Cruise General] rogro82:
Remember that this isnt a hardware driver but only an optimized driver for the xscale platform. But its better than nothing :D

Keeping in mind that HTC included the reference driver instead of the optimized one ive lost all hope of HTC releasing a real video driver....

I do some how wonder.... Is there a device (wm) running the imageon chipset using hardware support? Maybe this isnt a problem HTC can fix because ATI never released a driver for windows mobile devices for this chipset????

Hopefully the ones that are developing the driver with real hardware support are getting somewhere!
[Touch Cruise General] ZaPP187:
That is the same thing i thought about.... HTC said if we want a phone with good video drivers and a fast 2d/3d interface we should buy the diamond.

Although the Diamond has the Touchflo 3D, the camera is **** in low light conditions, too. In some cases even the Cruise is faster....
[Touch Cruise General] Darth Sith:
My result with same video file (640x480) with coreplayer.

Polaris with bepe rom: 81.70%

Polaris with bepe rom + omnia driver: 83..22%

IGO8 is a bit fast.
[Touch Cruise General] pananza:
D3D demos working on Polaris with Omnia + PocketConsole

I installed the Omnia drivers on my Polaris, and like many other I only got the D3D demos to update when I clicked the taskbar/start menu.

But I was fooling around with a lot of stuff, and suddenly the D3D demos started working just fine (at least the kept going by them selves). I tried to figure out what I had done and have come up with this:

I recently installed PocketConsole on my Polaris, and if I left a console window up before starting the D3D demos the suddenly work. And not only that, I get an error message in the console window as well.

1. Download and install PocketConsole from here: http://www.walkingrandomly.com/?p=22

2. Don't forget to change HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Drivers/ConsoleOutputTo to 0 as described.

3. Soft-reset

4. Start PocketConsole

5. Start the D3D demos

For the developers out there, this is the message written to the console when a D3D demo app is started:

3GVT: PreLoad HTCMidCodec_Qvp.dll sucessfully

3GVT: Failed to load HTC3GVTStack.dll

Are we still missing some files?

I've included a screenshot and a slightly modified fractal demo. This one displays the FPS in the top left corner (requires compact framework 2.0 to run). As you can see I get about 10 fps with the Omnia drivers (and less then 1 without).
[Touch Cruise General] pananza:
Just curious, why are you watching a 640x480 movie on a device only capable of displaying 320x240? That means you not only burden the device with decompressing and playing the movie, but it needs to scale down every frame as well.

I use DVD Catalyst to encode DVDs to 320x240 and not only is the quality excellent, but I have 293% on the CorePlayer benchmark (QTv mode).
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
I've never had one problem playing back normal resolution xvids and x264 movies on my device..not one! CorePlayer with QTV enabled does a fine job. I see your point, and you're right...but alot of times I just do not have the patience to sit there and wait for them to transcode..either way I have no trouble with playback. I watch movies on my device all the time. Every once in awhile the audio will go out of sync but that also happens with lower resolution vids; which leads me to believe that it's a different issue.

The only thing I can think of that runs slow that has to do with video is SlingPlayer. Man does that thing slow down my device to a crawl!
[Touch Cruise General] CrAzY_CbR:
Hello, I'm new here ... I'm Spanish

I do not speak English only Google Translate!

I have a HTC Cruise (polaris 100) and my ROM is the official 1.25.412.1.

I install the drivers Fix or just for WM6.1?
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Hello, Crazy CBR.

Please, wait, because the drivers are not released yet.

O sea, que los drivers todavía no han salido, y cuando salgan, serán para Windows Mobile 6.1 (tendrás que flashear).

Greetings!
[Touch Cruise General] walterin:
Pregunta!

Hola SuperJMN, una consulta, tengo la Polaris con la ROM oficial y quiero actualizar a WM6.1, mi pregunta es que ROM me recomiendas, hay muchas con WM6.1, pero a tu criterio cual me recomendarias.

atte.

Walter Zegarra.
[Touch Cruise General] trabucaire:
Tengo instalada ya hace un tiempo la "bepe 0.67" y va muy bien. Fluída y no me ha dado ningún problema.

Saludos.

I have been having already installed for a time " bepe 0.67" and it goes very well. Fluid and it has not given any problem me. Greetings.

Aquí/here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=378080
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
I liked bepe's but I'm now using udK Diamond R6. I don't know whether it is faster or not, but I has just what I need.

Walter: usaba antes la de bepe, pero ahora estoy con la udK Diamond R6 (disponible en el foro de "upgrading and modifying"). No sé si será la más rápida, pero tiene justo lo que necesito.
[Touch Cruise General] walterin:
Instrucciones/Guide

Hola nuevamente, descargue la Bepe 0.67 y me gustaria saber de algun thread o link donde encontrar instrucciones para poder instalarla en mi Polaris.

Hi again, I downloaded Bepe 0.67 ROM and I like to know any link to learn how to install this Rom on my Polaris.

Gracias de antemano.

Atte.

Walter Zegarra
[Touch Cruise General] lexi1986:
Just use an other topic than this one please.
[Touch Cruise General] CrAzY_CbR:
Vale ahora en español me queda claro.

Ya que hablas español y no quisiera abrir un tema para una sola pregunta...aparte que casi todo el mundo habla en ingles. No se si sabras cual es la ultima ROM oficial para la polaris...a mi me venia la 1.25.412.1 ESN y le he puesto la 1.30.412.1 ESN, es esta la ultima version?? Mi polaris es libre de fabrica pero se que la de orange mi compañia viene con la 1.29

La radio le pondre la que originalmente viene para Orange ES, que seria la 1.58.25.14 pero dudo si meter la version murata o la version que original de orange que viene el firm propio de ellos 1.29
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
No tengo ni idea, lo siento. La que me vino del servicio de reparación estaba en español e inmediatamente me puse una ROM cocinada por los maestros de XDA-Developers.

I know that Spanish is a really beautiful language and ... I love it, but we talk in English here because doing this way, everyone understands.
[Touch Cruise General] JC_Carrillo:
CrAzY_CbR, this thread is titled "Polaris Video Driver Fix", not "what spanish rom can I flash??", ok? thanks.
[Touch Cruise General] NeoS:
New driver package for Kaiser available on htcclassaction.org! n.b. You need to re-install the omnia driver for 3D to work!

Happy testing! ;)

B.t.w, any Polaris Chef looking into porting this? It works (kinda) already, it just needs to be edited a bit to fully fit the Polaris. (i think... I'm sorry, im no programmer)
[Touch Cruise General] voxel.:
Hi,

there is not any problem to install this driver on HTC Cruise Original ROM (WM 6.0) ?

This driver is better for the display on a HTC Cruise ?
[Touch Cruise General] pananza:
You cannot install the driver from htcclassaction on the Polaris. We are still missing a hardware specific DLL file (DDI) that we hope will be included in the official WM 6.1 update that's scheduled for release next month.

But the Omnia drivers is software only, but more optimized than the onces that comes with the Polaris. I have had some success with the Omnia drivers on my Polaris (running cooked WM 6.1)
[Touch Cruise General] Iozeg:
Don't know if it's just a placebo effect but my device seems to run just a bit smoother after installing the driver cab. Still waiting for a miracle :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] imfloflo:
This cab is not for the polaris ?

Why people try to install it on Polaris, we must wait for a chef who cook a special version for polaris.
[Touch Cruise General] yannix63:
Polaris and kaiser have the same video hardware system ???
[Touch Cruise General] pananza:
As I understand it they are not exactly the same. In order to support the new htcclassaction.org drivers the device needs a special optimized DDI.DLL file. This file is device specific and was included for the Kaiser with the official WM 6.1 update from HTC. We hope that the Polaris optimized DDI.DLL will be included with the WM 6.1 upgrade that is scheduled for the Polaris next month.
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
as I understand all is waiting official release wm 6.1 that's the way for the moment???
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
yes ;)...or someone will write the dlls, but i dont think so....
[Touch Cruise General] w04g005:
Hey guys attention please!!!! The HTCCA Drivers for Kaiser are NOT running with the OFFICIAL O2 ORBIT II ROM that comes in the next few weeks!
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
So... our hopes were dashed... weren't they? :(

Does this mean that we might have to trust in someone who could eventually release a homemade DLDI?
[Touch Cruise General] w04g005:
I don't know if the official O2 Rom is the same as the official HTC Rom. I hope the HTC-Rom includes the ddi file! But who knows...
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
step by step!

first let the wm6.1 upgrade roll in and then we gonna watch whats inside.

The HTC-CA authors will surely have a look in these, as the rom comes with a newer AKU than the kaiser wm6.1 ugrade and probably with a more optimized ddi and graphic-related stuff they may want to port to kaiser.

hopefully the wm6.1 upgrade comes in not more than 4 weeks.
[Touch Cruise General] w04g005:
The new O2 Rom has AKU 1.2.3. What version is the Kaiser?
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
step by step?

The steps started the day I got my $900 polaris and have been a never ending spiral staircase downwards to the depths of hell ever since. I gave up hope a long ass time ago...face it, HTC are lying cowards and aren't going to provide us with anything...all they want is for us to buy the Diamond / Touch Pro.

The HTC Polaris was a complete and utter failure, and we all fell for it.
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
calm down, if u needed the 900 bucks, u wouldnt buy a phone from it.

if you feel that kind of desperate, just sell the device and buy a new one that fits your needs.

ah, dont forget to read any reviews.
[Touch Cruise General] JNGold:
Failure? I think not. My TC has been one of the most enjoyable and stable WM phones that I have ever owned. With the exception of playing high-res, high-bitrate video, the TC does the job in every aspect I have asked of it.
[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
I perfectly agree except for the cam, which simply is too low quality for a mobile device nowadays... even my Nokia 6021 before took better pictures than the TC... 3.1 MPixel seems amazing, but the quality simply is crappy. If this could be fixed on some way, I would be completely satisfied with the TC
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
I will make some videos I guess because maybe there is something really wrong with my device..it is just so damn slow it's intollerable..with any program and any task. I mentioned the 900$ because the only reason I justified spending that much on a phone was that I thought I wouldn't need to buy another one for 2-4 years. And as far as reading reviews, the reviews I read all said it was great and fast -- Like most reviews say about the stock Kaiser -- complete lies.
[Touch Cruise General] foxhawk:
out-of-the-box?

means "out plant system " or "useful in fact"?
[Touch Cruise General] Svenvdmeer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=422064

udK seems to be making some progress with the drivers in his upcoming rom...
[Touch Cruise General] nir36:
The polaris is stable and useful, and as i see it the only 2 problems it has are the camera and the graphics being slow.. but it's not THAT bad... and i'm enjoying it very much. considering we may get 3D drivers.. this may even justify my purchase even more.
[Touch Cruise General] RICSBEST:
I sent a message to HTC two hours ago:

Country:	Brazil

Inquiry Details

Inquiry Type:	Customer Service

Inquiry Description:	Hi! I own a Touch Cruise and bought it as office/multimedia PDA. Recently, I discovered that video playback on older devices playing smoother than my Touch Cruise. Even more obnoxious is the fact that the camera seems to have a dismal frame rate, and makes it unusable for most situations. To be honest, this is quite a disappointment from a phone that I paid $680!!! Is HTC aware of my problem, and is anything being done to fix it? There seems to be missing correct drivers. This also has been confirmed by http://www.htcclassaction.org I´m waiting for your response ASAP. Thanks

Attachment:	N/A

And they answer me this: (very fast!)

Hello Ricardo,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding your HTC Touch Cruise.

We understand that this can be very important and are more than happy to answer any questions that you may have. We do have a driver patch for your camera issue, but do not, currently, have an update for the video playback, nor do we have a timeframe for when or if that issue will be resolved. You can find the camera patch at the following link: http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=59&cat=0&dl_id=29. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you.

Ricardo, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.

HTC Technical Support

http://www.america.htc.com

http://www.htcwiki.com
[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
This camera fix fixes a camera issue, but not the main one :p

I can only say, that I lost hope getting some useful updates from HTC?!

But except the cam, the TC is ok for me, I don't watch movies or trailers on it, and the cam being that bad, I don't take videos/pics either which I would have to watch on it later on...
[Touch Cruise General] voxel.:
for accelerate the screen (photo/camera) in dark environnement, turn off the cruise 5 secondes and turn on.
[Touch Cruise General] johnsonc:
voxel, you're the man! Thanks very much for the tip - works perfectly :)
[Touch Cruise General] bally3:
I dont know whether this is of any use to anyone but I've been playing around with the Omnio driver and Kaiser HTC-CA-Kaiser-drivers.cab and have noticed some results.

Heres what I did:

I had the Omnio driver installed already but I was reading on UDK's Some news about the 3D drivers thread about kaiser drivers improving but the OpenGL exes not working etc.

I had a try installing the kaiser cab and I thought I noticed a little improvements but as the user posted, the exe's wouldnt work. After a little play I re-installed the Omnio driver.

This time when I clicked on the .exe's they ran!

The 3D text program showed text, the D3D demo showed a box with a circle but only seemed to move when I clicked on the screen.

The lights D3D program which failed before, now showed:

First box:

Driver:

Description:Intel XScale Optimised D3DM driver

ID: 0

Ident: (a whole load of digits)

Name: D3DMXSC50PB.DLL

Vendor: 0

2nd Box:

Hardware Rasterization: False

3rd Box:

Hardware T&L: False

4th Box:

Using system memory

And then a 3D cylinder on a blue screen that does nothing but again moves if I try to click on the top bar to close it or start menu.

I've also noticed that this seems work a lot better after a reset. Also the phone seems to be a bit smoother in operation though its made absolutely no difference to my video playback.

*** Update - just noticed in the HTCClassAction.org video that hardware rasterization is TRUE which probably explains it - oh well.
[Touch Cruise General] tvrtim:
Hi

Does anyone know where I can get the "Samsung Omnio D3D drivers"?

Thanks
[Touch Cruise General] voxel.:
Hi,

For the Samsung Omnia D3D Driver :

Go to this link : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416474
[Touch Cruise General] camro:
@UDK

did you find a way to integrate video driver ?

do you want to inform us about your eperience ?

i know we all have also a other job, but only more informations about driver integration would be fine ......

cu camel
[Touch Cruise General] timmymarsh:
In my opinion the Touch Cruise is a very good device and the 6.1 update should hopefully make it better. In the mean time i have used the reg tweaks & advanced config to speed up my TC. I also found that turning off HTC task manager and using Quickmenu also sped up the feel of my TC.

As for the camera, well i only use it for emergencies, isnt that what digi cameras are for??:D Video, well if im bored i can watch youtube vids using the cab found in the kasier section, and it plays streaming utube very well. If i want to watch a movie i have a laptop or TV;)

Roll on 6.1..... i wait......
[Touch Cruise General] dysolve:
now that the UDK rom with 3d is out, what happens to htcclassaction?
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
R0 for me it's too bugy but maybe need take out driver ?
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
please correct me if i am wrong, but have the r0 really the 3d driver ?....

the surface is not really touchflo3d. it is manilla 2d which will be used on the new htc opal. the new thc opal will have a 200mhz cpu so the surface must working good on it, that means the surface will work perfect on the TC which have 400mhz. dont get me wrong, udks rom is great and really fast but i dont see the drivers, just a bit acceleration can come from some tweaking.

sorry for the bad english ;)
[Touch Cruise General] Petulinek:
R0 doesnt have 3D driver.. Only 2D acceleration, but not very good i think... I test it second day and i´m disapointed...
[Touch Cruise General] ouioui01:
manaaa,

there are good news for TC owners...have a look on this thread ;) Some guys are trying to hardware rendering!!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2661191

Of course, it's still in beta!
[Touch Cruise General] SuperJMN:
Yes, and I'm following every single word said in there! Where is my magnifying glass? oh mamma! I'm downloading the ROM that NikMel uploaded to RapidShare to make a try. I feel like my Polaris is going to explode after this attack!
[Touch Cruise General] Patrickschneider:
Hello dear friends,

I follow the topic quite some time and now I have from the driver from NikMel read, there is only in the Rom or he also works with WM 6.0

Since I do not flash my Rom wants because quite a lot of software is installed there and I very much would have to make new settings. Does the driving a cab?

Excuse for my poor English I have written in German and translated by Google as my english is even worse.
[Touch Cruise General] bally3:
Übersetzt: Hallo, Patrick, werden wir die Freigabe eines öffentlichen Beta einmal mit dem zufrieden sind, die Ergebnisse.

Bitte bewahren Sie diese Lesung thread für Updates. Wir werden nach der Kabine auf die Entwicklung thread und verkündet es, wenn sie bereit ist - Entschuldigung für mein Deutsch, mit Google Translate auch als mein Deutsch ist wahrscheinlich schlechter als Ihr Englisch!

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Translated: Hi, Patrick, we will be releasing a public beta once are happy with the results.

Please keep reading these thread for updates. We will post the cab on the development thread and announce it when it is ready - apologies for my german, using google translate also as my german is probably worse than your english!
[Touch Cruise General] sunsetraving:
But hey,

there are some other guys here how write it German, so it is quite OK to do it this way ;) i think.