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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Well I'm returning s8 plus. It just can't beat out pixel overall. Pros and cons of s8 plus for anybody interested.

Pros

Screen- is bright and very big

Battery- best battery I've ever used to date

Sdcard- also best phone with sd slot I've used to date, loads 10,000 plus photos in seconds

Camera- excels in low light, regular light it can't touch pixel

Web pages- loading and scrolling is probably fastest I've ever seen on mobile device

Samsung pay- still love Samsung pay over Android pay

No bezels- looks amazing and sleek

Samsung ui- I've always loved it and I still like it. Has countless options that are unreal but still not as fast as pure Android but that's to be expected

Edge screen- probably my favorite feature. Absolutely love night clock

Cons

Screen- is weird ratio and colors look over saturated except on basic mode then everything else looks washed out. Some apps don't like no bezels. Keyboard is weird and reply tabs in notification bar are very tiny and odd

Camera- normal light pixel has it beat, too saturated and unrealistic

Fingerprint sensor location- yes you get used to it but back on pixel and it is still way easier

Screen protector/case- good luck getting a glass screen protector to stick and a case to match without intruding on each other

No bezels- I found it hard to reach to bottom of phone for home button or anything on nav bar really

Bixby/buttons- bixby needs no statement it is just rubbish (and bixby button) and the other buttons are spread out. I like how pixel has volume and power on same side and textured power button
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coldmethod:
Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.

[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)

However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]

Enjoy your Pixel XL
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
They might but things like the over saturated screen and weird ratio are very big deals to me so therefore they outweigh all the good lol

Yes the fingerprint is weird. I honestly think they quit R&Ding the device and just threw on back to beat iphone out and get some sales. Hopefully they take their time with the Note 8 and it is perfection. I would rather have my note 7 back over the s8 plus at this point.

Touchwiz has gotten better but yes it could still use some more features. But hey they all could always use more feautres!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coldmethod:
Fair call on the oversaturation, I think I have just gotten used to it (almost all of my devices are Samsung, I'm constantly fiddling with our TV picture settings :rolleyes:). Although I'd probably suggest getting used to the new aspect ratio, I imagine it will make an appearance on the Note 8 and become the norm, considering Samsung now has a penchant for using large phones with one hand.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] the_scotsman:
Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.

No bezel - this is a plus for me, and most people. This is the way smartphones are going. Less bezel = better phone. More for aesthetics than anything.

Screen protector/case - I never use them. They ruin the look and feel of the phone.

Camera - still the best on the market in my opinion. Beats anything else out there.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coldmethod:
Cheers for the tip, I hadn't touched this setting, but now I've made the switch it looks much better.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Yeah I don't like the fake look though. If I take a photo I want it to be realistic. I took some photos and then look at photo and object and was like man it looks way off. The note 8 better have a normal screen ratio!

I can't stand the over saturation. Looks bad unless you drop to basic. Pixel camera is best imo ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheAnarchist1:
I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I couldn't have said it better. The s8 is just so close to perfection but so far from it lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coldmethod:
I smell descent in the S8+ ranks... lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] -Alan:
I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I forgot garbage bixby and the button!!!

Edited op for it!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] h4ck3r69:
you forgot a couple more things that makes the s8+ sweep the floor with it..

HDR screen certification.

IP68 water and dust proofing.

Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging

Micro SD card expansion.

Bluetooth 5.0

Always On Display.

Iris scanner security.

bye felicia
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coldmethod:
I also read somewhere that the above sensor placement may hold the CrApple iSh#t 8 from being delivered as per their normal schedule, if it is true at least CrApple have the sense to ensure deadlines don't affect the final product. (please excuse my uncharacteristic optimism regarding CrApple products)

For the fanboys/fence sitters - Yes Apple has it's applications, yes some people prefer simple... this is an Android forum. As I have said in the past iPhones are for people that want a smartphone but aren't smart enough to use them. ~ from an open platform fanboy.

I too forgot this useless piece of redundant garbage (sort of points out how irrelevant Bixby is in a world of Google Now), although the button remapped to be a "back" button is handy.

Hopefully Samsung will pull their collective heads out of each other's butts and allow the button to be remapped to whatever the consumer wishes without a 3rd party app, instead of the usual "this is how you will use the device you payed for and rightfully own" attitude of large corporations.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] the_scotsman:
They wanted it to be on the same spot as the home button under the screen, but Synaptics couldn't get it working good enough in time.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] xxsanioutlawxx:
I'm also going to return mine. I'm kind of disappointed that the audio quality is subpar IMHO. Comparing it with my Nexus 6P, the sound level is lower than the 6P and honestly the 6P sounds more crisp. If I'm paying close to a grand for a device- S8+ with paid bundle, I would wish the manufacturer doesn't skimp on features like Samsung did with this phone. The mono speaker audio and then the issue with the tint... I tried adjusting in settings but there's still a slight red hue which is annoying to say the least. The fingerprint scanner... But I can get used to that. The Bixby button being disabled to use with other applications. It's just too many compromises for a device like this. Thinking I'll wait for the Note 8 or the next Pixel. Damn, I had such high hopes and really wanted to like this phone, but I can't justify spending $950 on something I'm not fully satisfied with. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dehnhaide:
Well pointed out. One of the major gripes I think is the sound quality. I have tested a bunch of different HiFi headphones on my S8+ but it's nowhere close to the previous Mate 9 audio quality: to low the volume, mushy details in medium tonality, overall "not there". I am not sure where Pixel stands from the sound quality perspective but I would be eager to test it beforehand.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I actually have sdcard in the op thank you and they still don't beat the pixel lol always on you know pixel has this too right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Once again shows Samsung is becoming more like Apple. I got money on the s9 having it under screen on front pulling more people in to buy it instead of waiting a few more months and perfecting the s8!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zathus:
There were two key features that kept me from getting the pixel. Wireless charging and dust and water resistant. In my line of work I need That! If pixel 2 has those, I'm sold.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Right how is the 6p still winning at audio all these years later! That's how I feel too it's $900 ish and I can't change anything. At least with pixel have option to root and ROM and change things. Spending $900 and buying outright s8 doesn't get you that opportunity. That's the one thing my phone didn't have was the red tint, mine looks fantastic and still couldn't win me over haha
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Deleted.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Uh oh what did you say lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lexcyn:
I do love the Pixel, but I find all of the features of the S8+ to be miles ahead in some areas. Even the GraceUX is more polished than I thought it would be, and brings some welcome additions coming from stock, so I'm most likely going to sell my Pixel XL (seeing HDR content on the S8 pretty much solidified my decision).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Nothing, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Rich0047s8plus:
I love the iris scanner. This is the best phone, hands down. The battery life alone is enough. It's crazy good.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] keith777:
I'm in the same boat here. Returning my S8+ and going back to Pixel XL. If I could take stock android from the Pixel, the camera from the Pixel, and put it on the S8+ (and probably make the screen edges a little less curved) I might stick with the S8+. The screen quality is great on the S8+ but the Pixel XL isn't too shabby either. I think the Pixel camera is better (and it's from last year). For me Samsung messes with Android too much. Bixby..........why why would you add a crappy thing like this when Google assistant is vastly superior (and then add a physical button for it). At least LG gets this.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Yup I agree and fix the funky screen ratio. Uhh bixby what a great addition.....
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ShrekOpher:
S8+ > Pixel

The pixel has tons of problems of its own. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/

There are a few things with Samsung phones in general that take some "getting used to", but over all it is a better experience. The Pixel has problem that effect you more on a day to day basis. If you really want root and ROM then this isn't the phone for you, but if you want a daily driver that gets the right cell signal, great battery, awesome camera, and the best screen, the S8(+) is the right device.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] henrybravo:
The oversaturstion comments about the S8 are off the mark. The AMOLED Photo setting brings it down to normal. AMOLED Cinema is a bit more saturated than Photo and is a happy medium between Photo and Adaptive. You can also turn down all 3 color sliders in Adaptive to tone it back a bit. When switching from Adaptive to Cinema or Photo mode, your eyes will trick you and you'll think the screen is way undersaturated until you look at it side by side with a "normal" color device (such as I did with my Nexus 6P) and you'll see the colors are really quite normal. Edit: There's now a firmware update rolling out that has a color temperature slider for Adaptive. So overall there are plenty of options to get the color where you like it. If you hate anything colorful in life then Basic is an option.

Despite the screen ratio, the camera still takes photos in the proper 4:3 or 16:9 ratio, no distortion. I've compared photos between my 6P and my S8+ and the S8+ photos are definitely *not* oversaturated or unrealistic in comparison, particularly when viewed on a monitor. Every camera on these flagship phones has its strengths and weaknesses as we all know. Do a shutter burst or multiple consecutive photos of HDR on a 6P or Pixel and you're stuck in Processing Land for a while.

The speakers on the Nexus 6P are great, but plug some earphones into it and turn up the volume and you'll hear how anemic it sounds. You can use a custom kernel to turn up the volume a few minor ticks but anything beyond that and the amp is overloaded and cuts out. The headphone output in the S8+ is quite loud (the American Snapdragon version anyway). On my 6P I need my FiiO amp but on the S8+ I can get away without it. The Exynos/European version of the S8 may be a different story of course.

Trouble reaching the bottom nav buttons? LOL that's a bit of a stretch (no pun intended). Just because you're used to the biggest bezel phone on the planet doesn't mean you can't adapt to slim bezels over time, it's just a muscle memory thing. Big bezel days are coming to an end, the writing is on the wall. The current design of the iPhone/Pixel already looks 5 years old when compared to the recent Samsung and LG designs. That will be remedied this fall I imagine when Apple and Google do their refresh.

Samsung blew it with fingerprint placement for sure but I'm getting used to it, surprisingly. A case helps greatly; you just rest your finger on the inside edge of the case cutout and your finger's almost always in the perfect spot. The dedicated Bixby button is stupid - I've got all Bixby services disabled via Package Disabler, so luckily the button doesn't work anymore and no more accidental presses. Lack of any front facing speaker is disappointing, I wish they had done the same thing that Apple did with iPhone 7 where the earpiece is also a speaker to provide a stereo effect in conjunction with the down-facing speaker.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] realbananA:
First 24 hours with the s8+ and I have to say I am actually liking the phone. (not a Samsung fan) this phone is the best I have used out of 6p,note7,ip7+,pixel. Only complaint I have is the phone having one speaker. I got spoiled with my 6p.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cantenna:
Sounds quality is best I ever heard hear (mind you I am running viper4android))
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mlock420:
Idk man samsung always find ways to peak my interest....i don't know why pixel,iPhone and all these other phones makes my mind say MEH! No diss just they all seem boring.... but op you like what you like and that's all that matters.... now could you close the door behind you? Just kidding good luck tho
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TechBSwift:
You and I have been stepping on each others toes for years. My userid use to be 2swizzle. Anyway you are the only person I know the switches cell phones as much as me, but I think you are wrong this time. I had Pixel XL and loved that phone. However it had a lot of short comings, such as waterproof, wireless charging and several other features that the s8+ has. Is the s8+ perfect?? Not a chance, however the extra battery life, extra screen size, extra features makes it a more functional phone. I've slowed down big time hacking/modding so Rom'ing is a thing of the past for me. The only true advantage of the pixel is updates. I'm sticking with the S8+ until the Iphone 8 and Note 8 drops. Then I will switch to those phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ProStreetCamaro:
It really boils down to personal preference. I have always loved rich saturated displays. One of the biggest things I hated about the iphone 7 plus I just sold. Bland boring display. Its the reason I love LG's oled TV's compared to samsungs ips and even their nerw QLED TV's. The picture just doesnt POP with inky blacks and rich vibrant colors like OLED displays do. I haven't found any apps that have any issues with this ultra wide display and I really am not impressed with the pictures from the pixel camera. Never have been since day one when I started watching reviews on the pixel. Also dont like the design of the pixel at all. One of the ugliest phones on the market IMO of course. Like I said it boils down to personal preference. I know the pixel is an excellent phone for sure. But to me it is nothing more than an iphone running android. I have had my 7 plus since launch (my first iphone) and could not wait until I could get rid of it. I got my S8+ on the 19th and have been in love with it since. Whitestone tempered screen protector paired with my favorite case of all time (UAG) and it is a flawless fit! Anyway count me as a super happy S8+ owner. In my eyes nothing on the market today comes even remotely close to it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
You need to change your name back! Anyways I know im in minority here but i feel its the right move. S8 just doesnt feel finished to me. They left screen ratio all weird and fingerprint reader on back and just shipped the phone. I also do not root/rom much anymore as pixel is still stock believe it or not! Note 8 better be good!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CB620:
Keeping S8+ plus until Note 8. Came from a Pixel XL and G6 and both had good traits but honestly I think the S8+ is better than both. Best camera to me is iPhone 7+. Best Android phone before my S8+ was the Axon 7. Phone is just too sexy to let go. Turns heads, Pixel doesn't. Sad to see you go though.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
Pixel xl doesn't compare to s8 plus.

Build quality, design, screen size, hardware on s8 is outstanding.

Whereas Pixel xl build design absolutely poor and cheap especially for the price tag.

I do prefer pixel software, fingerprint sensor and camera but the cons outweigh the pros hence could not go back to any other phone after owning s8 plus.

S8 plus is best phone out here right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] h4ck3r69:
and whoever disagrees with that is a complete ignorant, plain and simple. the s8+ is the best phone in the market as of now
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
here are a couple photos

Pixel XL

S8+

Notice the houses on left look washed out with S8

XL

S8+

Once again S8 is just a hair too bright and saturated

XL

S8+

Lens flare you say? S8 has it worse here

XL

S8+

Lastly notice the clouds and trees are sharper on the pixel. the s8 just likes to saturate imo especially the grass in this shot
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
The S8 is easily the best hardware phone around today. From bluetooth 5.0 to that stunning HDR display its an amazing, amazing phone. If it didn't have Knox (ROOT without warranty void) , had AOSP Roms and kernels etc and quick updates it would be untouchable....until the Note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I agree it's the best hardware phone out right now. But is it the best phone?? Take iPhone got example they don't have to have the same ram and processing as Android but their software is so efficient that it makes the phone quick. Same thing with pixel, it is just a more fluid os and makes it a better phone then s8 to me that feels unfinished
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Really just depends what you value and want from a phone. Some people will value and want what an S8 gives and others what an IPhone or Pixel gives.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
LOL so you are now comparing apples to oranges. Lets compare the Auto HDR to manual HDR LMAO you crack me up. First off if you have to go to manual HDR mode so we can't even compare. Basically you are saying if you use Auto vs Auto the pixel wins. Play with S8 settings and it might be close. Play with pixel settings and continue to beat s8 then.

I understand the washing out or color changes in person situation though. All photos were taken within seconds of either other and tried to get in the same spot. I tried to pick photos close together I have a whole flickr album of different shots to try and find some good ones. But once again if I have to play with settings is the camera really better then?? You can tweak anything imagine tweaking pixel and getting even better!

Lens flare is to show that the S8 is not immune to it either and it isnt just a pixel flaw. I agree the XL is worse in lower left but I could have put in HDR and tweaked settings and made it better! :p Because that is what to do with the S8.

Moral of story is you have to manual mode HDR and edit exposure or other settings in S8 to get a fair comparison to a device staying in auto HDR and doing all the work? Once again I will stay with my pixel as it is just easier to use and produce better photos. Once again Samsung should have focused more on their software then their hardware.......
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dpk1:
With my experience with last 3 gen of Samsung flagships (S6, S7edge and now S8+), I can confirm your observation - HDR on (in camera auto mode) > HDR auto (in camera auto mode) in situtations requiring greater dynamic luminosity.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jj03:
was looking at the pixel a while ago..lovely handset but it looks so bland imo...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
I'm about to dump my S8+ too and go back to a Pixel XL.

The S8+ is beautiful, but it lags and drops frames all damn day. It's annoying. I need smoothness in my life, and only the Pixel and iPhone can provide it apparently.

-Who gives a **** about HDR certification. You will never use it, almost guaranteed. Pixel's display is still great.

-Bluetooth 5.0 is not really beneficial to me right now seeing as there are no other 5.0 devices. It actually is having compatibility issues with my 2017 Jeep - constantly drops connection requiring reboots.

-Unlocking is never smooth. It always requires more effort than my Pixel XL ever did, whether it be redoing my fingerprint scan or aligning the iris scanner. Face unlock doesn't work in the dark. The animation lags too.

-Enjoy using Android N this time next year when Pixels will have Android O for months.

-Forever unrootable.

-Camera is not as good as the Pixel.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Boom another one I can agree with! Like I keep saying the S8 is an unfinished phone that's software isnt as polished as pixel. Pixel may not have the sexy edges or look or a bezel less screen but it sure runs pure and smooth. Camera, perfect easy unlocking with fingerprint and buttery smooth OS just like you said, keeps people like me and you coming back!