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[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
those cabs coming from this thread, and there, people are rather sure it's a placebo effect, and that those files have no effect on anything (yet). When I understood correctly, the files are added to windows-folder, some registry-strings are added, but the device still doesn't know why to use those new files...

But I think, it is now only a matter of time, and a solution will come up
[Touch Cruise General] the_fish:
bad to hear that its only a placebo effect :/ hopefully i can use netfront 3.5... does anyone use it on touch dual? really liked smooth browsing :(
[Touch Cruise General] maati:
NF3.5 ran great on my Polaris! However, I replaced it with Opera 9.5 which i like best (also very smooth, great zoom etc.).
[Touch Cruise General] XDANoob:
This is the best joke of a day :D

I say in ohter thread, this make a placebo effect!

I make this cab´s with the information in Diamond thread.

I think, it doesn´t work with standart ROM´s, but many people say: WOW it work :rolleyes: ???

Please, read a thread complete, before you make a big wave for nothing ;) !!!

AND i hate, when a ? steal my easy work :D!
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
You hate when people steal ? so make it and keep in your safe place. But here people who want improvement of our polaris with any methods. If you making for all make for all or you want medal
[Touch Cruise General] the_fish:
ok, ill try both if ive got the touch dual... thx for the info :)
[Touch Cruise General] chpelle:
I tried both drivers today and I don't see any difference...

No improvement on the graphics perfomance as far as I can see.

(tried camera and CorePlayer with several videos)
[Touch Cruise General] XDANoob:
steal my EASY work ;) :D (to make a big wave for nothing, because not read a thread complete)

That´s ironie :p !

Everybody can load my file´s and make whatever he want.
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
Eat it? :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] XDANoob:
Wenn´s schmeckt :D

in English:

hmmmm,when it is good.

Not so funny how in german :D
[Touch Cruise General] wis38:
The official Kaiser rom is available from HTC e-club

Officially released today by HTC e-club Europe (all languages available) :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=394360

By when the one for the Cruise? :confused:

-----

Just submitted to the HTC technical support the following message:

"I see HTC has just released today through the HTC e-club an updated rom with Windows Mobile 6.1 and optimized graphic performances for the Kaiser.

By when do you plan to release the same for the Touch Cruise?

Thanks"

Let's wait for the answer... :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] pistonripper:
At least the LONG wait for the Kaiser guys and galls is over...and deservedly so....Well done.
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
WEll according to htcclassaction, the cab doesnt even have drivers (just some improved stuff...i don't see why they WOULDN't release anything for the cruise since it's the same exact thing basically...hm...cause they greedy bastards :P
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
Yeah seriously when are we gonna get our ROM? I understand the Kaiser guys have been waiting longer, but do they even have a 6.1 with the weak video patches for us? Cruise owners feel like the unwanted step child....
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
I just hope they dont completely abandon it.....:|
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
answer from htc on my e-mail :

Valentyn, I understand how this might be confusing with different information being released by 3rd party sources. But we here at the HTC web team have not been made aware of any driver/fix in the process. Only that the Windows mobile 6.1 update is going to be released on the TyTN II / Touch Cruise and so forth.
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
now that's reassuring...
[Touch Cruise General] Kimma:
As long as we atleast get an update, at all, i'll be satisfied for a while atleast.

But completely ignoring us (as earlier statements seem to hint to, not mentioning the Cruise at all) will not exactly make me happy.
[Touch Cruise General] kidcash:
Do these HTC devices with Qualcomm proccessors use an ATI Imageon GPU? if So which one as I have not been able to find information on it.

Would the HTC Touch Diamond be Affected by this problem too?

Edit : I just read the htclassaction.org website, and I found out that these devices do not have a GPU, so does that mean the devices has to rely on the CPU to render the graphics?
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
That is not true... according to the MSM 7200 specs it has a GPU rivaling the Ati chips in terms of performance. On this par HTC was right, the Polaris doesn't come whith an ImageON GPU, but it has a qualcomm GPU.
[Touch Cruise General] leventero:
Nope can't see any update wm6.1 on te htc e-club
[Touch Cruise General] Diagorn:
Hello

The update 6.1 for our polaris will has not the update for the drivers video :(
[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
me neither, tried if it was country-dependent (US and germany), neither of it showed an update...

btw, who told there were one 6.1 update?
[Touch Cruise General] ---Alex---:
Where did you find information about polaris 6.1 update?
[Touch Cruise General] sedde:
Then we shouldnt be waiting for a working driver, since all the new msm 7201 devices use an ati gpu.

Now i am really thinking on selling my polaris
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
I'm betting my hopes on Android... until then I'm sticking to my polaris...
[Touch Cruise General] micke86c:
From a chat with Christer Högström (working on HTC)

http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePages/200805/27/20080527130519_MOB674/20080527130519_MOB674.dbp.asp

"hejsan! vill fråga ang htc touch cruses uppdatering!!! Kommer det ny patch för förbättrad grafikprestandan?

Svar:	Hej, Vi kommer att släppa en Wm6.1 uppdatering till Cruise till sommaren och denna kommer att ha en förbättring."

Sorry for my bad English, but here is my translation:

"Hi, I wonder about the htc touch cruise update! Will a patch come for better graphics?

Answer: Hi, We will release a WM6.1 update to the Cruise by summer and this will have an improvement."
[Touch Cruise General] Yzord:
An improvement, which means...no supported driver, which means...for us NO improvement!!
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
If they can fix the touchscreen bug then I'm happy...
[Touch Cruise General] Yzord:
touchscreen bug? never heard of, please explain
[Touch Cruise General] sony-vaio:
Is there any news about the Video Driver for Touch Curise?
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
Try playing skyforce or k-Rally whith the D-Pad (wheel) and whith he stylus... you'll notice...

Or try setting the volume int the DivX Player when a video is running...

In short, every time you touch the screen the device slows down.

Also this problem is present in every affected device including the old Hermes (which didn't get it's drivers also...)

http://htcclassaction.org/whattosay.php <- last item on the page
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
OR try changing the SIP (click the triangle thing) takes like 3-5 seconds just to pop up a menu...how is that acceptable? :X

AFAIK gnick is right, the touch screen bug is present in alot of htc models
[Touch Cruise General] JNGold:
That's a known WM problem for a couple of years now. I remember the same problem occuring on my KJAM and Treo 750.
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
You mean the SIP or the touchscreen?
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
I think he's talking about the SIP. It is actually very annoying that it takes that long just to pop up the menu. Good thing it's not something I do very often cause the rare times that I do it's annoying as sh*t to have to 1) take out the stylus to hit that small ass button, 2) wait that long for the menu to pop up.

The touchscreen bug is pretty lame too I admit.
[Touch Cruise General] pistonripper:
My No1 personal hate on windows mobile....that small ass button....add to that the error window......try pressing the OK button without a stylus on the top right hand side.....the OS is pants! (and will remain so..imho)...Have to give HTC some credit in disguising it...especially in the Diamond
[Touch Cruise General] darkhallow:
i have the same problem with my touch cruise but when i'm playing with "solitaire" or when i'm scrolling the list of "settings" this problem doesn't exist, however when i'm scrolling the list of programs the display is slowness. How can be possible??
[Touch Cruise General] starchildx:
because the drivers are missing, so the software have to calculate it not the hardware, normaly the hardware is doing this things.
[Touch Cruise General] kolobok01:
OK than why is wan you scrolling and holding your finger on the screen it dos it match slower than wan you let it go and flickering.

It seams like wan you pressing screen it takes away a lot of processing power to the screen.

Why is that?

Is that so hart to posses the touch aria?
[Touch Cruise General] batumulia:
So what's the deal with the driver right now?
[Touch Cruise General] Isaygarcia:
yea.. whats new??
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
http://htcclassaction.org/
[Touch Cruise General] nerdo:
Hi all!

I am wondering if the newly cooked ROMs with Diamond imported drivers/components bring any improvement to the video playback quality?

Anyone with experience to share here!? Thanx :)

(Tried to read through this thread and didn’t find an answer, apologies if I overlooked something:o)

Cheers

Another disappointed Polaris owner :mad:
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
Has anyone tried the fix in this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=301433

It sounds good until the last user says he needed to HR.
[Touch Cruise General] maati:
No, they don't, because the drivers themselves cannot be ported without great efforts.

The Kaiser has already been improved a little bit by HTC, we have to wait till they release a new ROM for the Polaris.
[Touch Cruise General] joey jojo:
i would have thought that we would be able to port the improvments/drivers from the The Kaiser since im led to beleive that the Kaiser and polaris are if not nearly the same device (rom wise).

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[Touch Cruise General] nilux3:
Has anyone tryed the htc patch ?

I downloaded a hot fix patch from htceurope.com named :

Cruise_Photo Quality.cab

Has anyone tryed it ?

Does it make any difference ?
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
this "fix" has nothing to do with the drivers and/or usability of the camera.

Supposedly it helps with the sharpness somehow...?

I personally don't see a difference...but then again, I don't even use the camera, because it's so slow / laggy (unless you're in a really well lit area, and even then it's still choppy - if you have other programs open, just not as much.) and not to mention more grainy than my webcam from 1997..but hey who's complaining :D

It's funny how they release a "fix" to a problem that no one really cares about, but the actual stuff people want and need fixed gets ignored.
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
It does make a bit of a difference in my opinion. Others disagree but I have photos that show a diff. Anyway this is not the video driver fix. You can search for more info on the photo quality cab in the forum.
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
Guy's use this and comment please http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=400226
[Touch Cruise General] Lomax01:
Why, this has nothing to do with the graphics driver?
[Touch Cruise General] Sebastian2691:
Question:

Does the HTC Polaris 100/200 have now a ATI Graphic Chip or not.

The one says yes the other says no?

I have a o2 xda orbit 2 (original german Rom) and a lot of games are

not good

playable. (Example: NFS High Stakes)

A lot of games "Ruckeln" <- I don´t find the english word.
[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
Don't want to offend people, but is the http://www.htcclassaction.org dead, no news for 4 weeks now, are they/we giving up?
[Touch Cruise General] maximos86:
thats what i want to know 2... i tried to go to the site and its dead...
[Touch Cruise General] secoseco:
the site is working, but I think that the subject is died

Must live with the reality, No graphic improvement from HTC

The last hope of developers, if they can
[Touch Cruise General] Nymouas:
Still hope or not ?

Hi,

I would like to buy a htc touch cruise because the htc diamond doesn't have a sd slot !!! (stupid)

But after reading the drivers problems, I tried a friend's htc touch cruise (original french rom) and indeed, the response time and windows rendering were really slow ... I was really disappointed.

So, I would like to know if there is still hope (from the drivers of the htc diamond?) and if not, do the xda's ROMs improve the windows and video rendering ?

I read a lot of forum threads but I didn't really find the answer.

I thank you by advance for your answer.

Bye
[Touch Cruise General] manaaa:
**UPDATE**

check 2nd post of this thread!
[Touch Cruise General] FlaTEriC18041983:
doesn't sound that good to me;

"[...] Also note that the current driver will most likely only work on the HTC TyTN II, it's not exactly clear yet what is needed to get it working on other MSM7200/7500 based devices [...]"

As Polaris user, I'm not very glad to hear that... but nevertheless, it's a sign that something is still going on behind the scenes...

nevertheless, well done @ hackers
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
htcclassaction.org was updated today!

it seems as though there is SOME progress being made, on the kaiser at least.

You can see that the opengl ES program is running on the kaiser!

It seems kinda stupid at first glance, but I bet it took alot of work just to be able to do that - and we should be thankful that we have such great minds working on this for us.

if you want my opinion (and i know absolutely nothing about the entire process or who's working on it and what is involved -- so take this with a grain of salt i guess) --It will probably be awhile (i'm thinking end of summer / september) if it happens at all...I do believe there is hope though, and let's not forget android, which has built in drivers.

My advice: Hope for the best, but don't plan on anything happening -- any time soon at least.

If i was anyone out there looking to purchase a polaris I would definitely NOT!

It's not worth it.
[Touch Cruise General] Nymouas:
Thank you for your answers.

I don't know yet what I will do :-(

Buy it or not, that's the question ;-)

Maybe a stupid question, why is it not possible to get the drivers from other devices with a Qualcomm MSM7200 (if the drivers are present) ?
[Touch Cruise General] boart:
It looks very interesting.. the 2 videos the site. I really hope that they bring out working drivers in the near future. Cause the scroll speed (and so on) on the cruise is not funny (compared to the iphone for example).
[Touch Cruise General] jakesoft:
polaris or tytn 11

i have for about 6 months been avidily reading this thread and the other spin off threads with hope that there would be a breakthrough in the development of a video driver fix or updated software for the polaris or HTC Touch cruise.

but the longer this thread has gone on the more this thread seems to go on about the TYTN II, kiaser, Diamond. Have I been missing a point here or has this thread progastinated from its original title Polaris>polaris>polaris video Driver Fix//Qualcomm MSM7200 etc as there is hardly a mention of the polaris / touch cruise anymore
[Touch Cruise General] boart:
The hardware is nearly the same. When a driver works on a tytn II it wont be that hard to port it to a polaris. But i think that rom cooker will be able to answer this question better than me.
[Touch Cruise General] orbit_noob:
I totally regret buying the polaris, if only I knew about the non-existent drivers earlier!must get a new smartphone now. this problem is pi$$ing me off bigtime:mad::mad:
[Touch Cruise General] rhov23:
I think it's cute! :eek:
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
who have pdf about our msm 7200 chipset ?
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
http://blacksun.extra.hu/myfiles/MSM7200_Chipset.pdf
[Touch Cruise General] JAYmasta:
VERY INTERESTING ON SITE QUALCOMM NO HAVE any information about our chipset and if they produce they should make drivers or what ??????

even this link www.cdmatech.com/convergenceplatform in pdf last page are dead

very interesting.....
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Qcamcorder™ Encoder

• A real-time wireless video recording solution that captures movies at 30 fps VGA

Integrated high-megapixel camera support for high-quality imaging

• Qcamera™ software with 30 fps VGA viewfinder resolution

I dont know about you guys, but my camera goes at about 2 fps, maybe 10 when its in a lighted area.

I guess i've complained enough but, I still don't quite understand how or why this whole situation came about...as to the reason why HTC would disable powerful features such as this as well as the "Advanced 2D/3D graphics support with up to 4 million 3D triangles

per second, and 133 million 3D textured pixels per second fill rate"

The only thing that makes sense is that they weren't finished enabling all this stuff with the 2007 product line but needed to get them shipped out anyways..

Reminds me of windows Vista...the main release was basically still in beta , didn't really work too great, but it still "worked" kinda thing..

Either that or qualcomm completely exagerated the features of the chipset...but that can't be because people have been saying that the Diamond is a fairly decent finished product, and it's the same chipset family as ours - Unless the diamond CPU has stuff onboard that's completely different from ours?
[Touch Cruise General] nightfear:
[NEED HELP]

where can i download and install the Video Driver?
[Touch Cruise General] Aldoliene2:
LOL:rolleyes: Somewhere in the future far, far away:D
[Touch Cruise General] dyter:
Is it possible to install the new video driver from WM6.1 without flash the firmware !?
[Touch Cruise General] Petulinek:
Driver? There is no driver in WM 6.1...
[Touch Cruise General] nightfear:
Thanks ;) I'll wait ...
[Touch Cruise General] dyter:
Yes, there is a new video driver but not full and with faster performance, read this http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1

I search the part of this files drivers without flash my rom ...
[Touch Cruise General] Petulinek:
Yes but it is originaly Kaiser ROM, not Polaris...
[Touch Cruise General] nightfear:
But I see in some ROMS that the video driver fix is included. :(

What did they mean ?
[Touch Cruise General] TDO:
That's not correct.

It only accelerates one operation and in real live applictions you are not able to see any increase in speed.

So stop hunting for something that does not exist.

There is no full working driver.

TDO
[Touch Cruise General] dyter:
I found this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2217896&postcount=1004

It's a new driver for Kaiser, I test it on my cruise tomorrow ...
[Touch Cruise General] stylobic:
so ? any result ?
[Touch Cruise General] dyter:
I found 2 same files in my windows folder, but it's write protected !

So, I waiting for a cab installer ...
[Touch Cruise General] nicko666:
Response from O2

I emailed O2 about the drivers and this is the response I got

Thank you for your email

As far as we are aware, the Orbit 2 should play videos. Saying that, this will depend on what type of file format they are and what 'codecs' they use. Therefore, not all video's will play on the Orbit 2 or other Xda devices.

You might need to download a third party player such as Pocket DivX or Pocket TV which should play many other formats as well as the default.

I have since spoken to this chap and he has said that they know nothing of this issue - I have put him right on a few things and he says he is going to escalate this within O2 - has any one else spoken to their service providers?
[Touch Cruise General] surgex0:
Any news of a 6.1 update for the cruise release from HTC (with or without drivers)?

I believe someone mentioned it in an email to tech supp. earlier in this thead...just wondering if anyone else has more info?

:| I only say this because I am getting sick of using the stock rom and am thinkin about flashin udk diamond
[Touch Cruise General] Perjan:
Hmmm sounds like i'm canceling my order for the touch cruise.
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
Too bad, because I really enjoy it, even though the audio quality is rather plain and its slowliness sometimes (not only when playing video), it is still a very nice and productive phone, I don't forget any appointments, get everywhere in time at the right place, and get my work with me on the road, together with some entertainment (music & games). What more could 1 small light device offer? :)

(damn, this should be some kind of HTC sales line :p)
[Touch Cruise General] ingenious:
I feel exactly the same, mate :) Wonderful, ingenious... I will never switch back to a "regular" phone. Used to be interested in new phones until I got my first pocket pc - now I don't care what "new multimedia phone" Nokia or anyone else releases. I only keep an eye on HTC :)
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
So true :) Even HP, Palm and Blackberries don't quite rock my world ;)

The decent iPhone variants are definitely from HTC, although Eten and LG are trying. Nokia I'm not sure about... But I've started to hate Symbian OS when I started searching for cr*cked PPC software, goddamn Symbian! :p (sorry for the off-topicness, back to topic --> HTC TC rules!)
[Touch Cruise General] mofolino:
It

gonna

be superb device if they

fix

the driver problem, but anyway I canceled my order cause I think I have good phone in my Prophet (S200) so far. The day HTC releses fix I'm gonna place my order. I am one of you guys who will never switch to "regular" phone but I have standards and can't and will not take **** from HTC.

SUGGESTION:

Let's go to the pages of on-line stores that selling HTC Polaris and write about this issue in the User Comments (or simmilar) just to inform other potential buyers who doesn't realy know what are they buying. HTC makes money on those poor people. Spread the word!!!
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
That all sounds very good to publish those evil comments, but wait for the (real) official update from HTC before ruining the market. If they will provide a fix, put thát in the comments, so buyers know they might have to wait a while.

And if they don't release it, wait for their final call on it, then crush them! :D
[Touch Cruise General] Blackfire:
Official update from HTC :( SO NO DRIVER FIX WILL COME !!!

Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about the video.

HTC is committed to delivering a portfolio of devices that offer a wide variety of communication, connectivity and entertainment functionality.? HTC does not offer dedicated or optimized multimedia devices and can confirm that its Qualcomm MSM7xxx-based devices do not use ATI's Imageon video acceleration hardware.

?

HTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smartphones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats.

?

HTC values its customers and the overall online community of mobile device enthusiasts and fans. HTC plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support.??

I suggest you to try:

HARD RESET

I suggest you to to try a hard-reset to set it back to factory settings.

In order to do this: (Please note that performing the below instructions will remove all of your data? on your device. Please backup any data first)

- Backup your data first

- Start

- Settings

- System Tab

- Clear Storage

- Enter 1234 and press OK

- Your device will now revert back to factory settings.
[Touch Cruise General] SabbeRubbish:
I thought there were doubts about the "officialness" of that news...