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[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Weird ? every device is different so exeperiences will vary, for me I have no problems and I'm running it rn, text messages work fine, camera takes a bit to startup after reboot on stock camera app but after that it's fast until you switch between front and rear cameras. And flashlight works are hitting the edit toggle. Other than that it has been fine.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
We need some binary blobs, and kernel source code... which won't happen for 30-90 days after the ROM release if Moto follows the same process they have int he past.

No custom ROM will every have these... except one that is based on the stock ROM, the framework for these to work is missing.

Personally I disabled Moto Display because it was annoying sitting at my desk and every time I reached over my keyboard the screen came on, but the side effect was a small, but noticeable (after a couple weeks GSAM showed average screen time had increased 10-15 minutes), increase in battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
I remember Sero!

I actually just dropped my $30 SERO 500 after almost five years of service. It was a great plan, but I really wanted LTE and was tired of having to find devices that would work with DFS for copying the MEID and programming data from. LTE from Sprint just didn't seem like it'd be worth the extra $20 (more like 30 after taxes and fees) a month. Also, they've been phasing out the ability to go from SERO 500 to SERO-P anyway, so I figured this was as good of a time as any to go over to Verizon with Total Wireless. The results have been good so far, but the phone selection (outside of the Moto X Pure Edition, of course) leaves a lot to be desired.
[X Style (Pure) General] Vink67:
Yes budy !

DirtyUnicorn weeklies 11.4 is just best nougat rom for our phone.

I just use OpenCamera because standard bug some times.

And custom kernel with impulse or fiops.....

Best.
[X Style (Pure) General] yoallen78:
Is the kernel you are using the handbag kernel?
[X Style (Pure) General] Vink67:
No just original DirtyUnicorn kernel, he have many options.

Just what we need.
[X Style (Pure) General] namartlu:
Weeklies or RCs are better choices for daily drivers? Are Weeklies supposed to be more stable? I somehow flashed the RCs and getting some freezes from time to time.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
[MENTION=3760767]namartlu[/MENTION] weekly is more stable, though now 11.5 Official has been released so you can try that.
[X Style (Pure) General] namartlu:
Thanks! I suppose I can't dirty flash Official over RC...
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Nope you can't!
[X Style (Pure) General] Alibaba0101:
Gave up on the official version last week.

I tried DU and nothing worked and I was not able to get root using supersu. Flashed lineage and everything worked immediately. The camera crashed the first time, but worked after that. Not exactly the snappiest os though. I had the most difficulty restoring my apps using titanium backup. Some of the apps would not restore. Battery life is decent. Didn't notice any big change. Flashed the weekly over the existing rom and lost root. Got it back by installing supersu. The latest supersu binary didn't work. Don't want to try it again. The latest version of at&t visual voicemail from the playstore does have problems with lineage. I had to restore my earlier version from titanium backup and its working.

Stock keyboard and gboard keyboard weren't my cup of tea. I spent the most time fiddling with the keyboard to get the sony xperia keyboard working on it.

Some modifications to lineage - get su
[X Style (Pure) General] snopkowsky:
Guys, I'm new to Moto X Style stories. Is Nougat for Style really coming? And is Nougat for Pure Edition ok? No bugs etc?
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
As of today (10th June, 2017), Nougat is not released for Moto X Style and neither for Moto X Pure. Soak test is still being carried out and there is no confirmed date when it will be rolled out publicly. As of now, Nougat will be coming to MXS/P in near future.
[X Style (Pure) General] snopkowsky:
So is it reasonable to buy Moto X Style now? Because its so cheap now.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
How cheap?

And what are your needs from a smartphone?
[X Style (Pure) General] snopkowsky:
In Poland its for like 260 USD, I'm not playing on phone at all, just apps and multimedia.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
260 is not cheap considering it's a two years old phone that will not get updates after Nougat.

I recommend getting a Moto G5 plus for almost the same price, or even wait for the Moto G5s plus to be released.
[X Style (Pure) General] snopkowsky:
But it's for 350 USD, and specs seems to be worse.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
I completely agree with [MENTION=3959570]Zedik[/MENTION]

Moto x style is better than g5 plus only in terms of camera and display, in all other things g5 plus is better.

If you can wait a bit it would be worthwhile to wait for g5s or moto x4
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
350 where? It's about ~300 USD

https://www.amazon.com/Moto-Plus-5th-Generation-Lockscreen/dp/B01MR2ZFBI?th=1&psc=1
[X Style (Pure) General] elvis182:
Do not ever compare the flagship phone (x style), to a middle class one (G5 or G5 plus). Of course x style is a better choice. The only two disadvantages would be the lack of fingerprint scanner and shorter battery life. You will not get any better phone in Poland for similar price. I bought my x style in Poland 6 months ago for the same price as you mentioned and I would never change it for a middle class phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] mikelebz:
Were're talking about a top tier phone from two years ago vs a mid-range phone from today. Technology advances. The moto g5 is a better option.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
No going back after Moto X Pure Edition!

That's right. Once you give up your "steerage-grade" phone for a first class unit, there's no going back :D. That said, word on the street is that those midrangers are better now than they ever were before, however they do still carry the same type of compromises that they always have. If you want the best screen in the business, a passable camera experience, plus some seriously decent stock software, and can live with slightly below-average battery life, the Pure Edition is definitely the way to go.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
The Moto X Pure is already an old phone. It has only 2.5GB Ram available, which cause it to lag when under demanding use.

It's battery is too small for it's UHD screen.

It has an old CPU.

It's turbo charging is of 2nd generation, when there is already a 4th gen now.

For $300 I'll take the G5 plus with no second thought.
[X Style (Pure) General] iks8:
I'm also from Poland and I bought it 7 months ago, imo it's not that good. Performance isn't really much better than on mid-end phones in everyday use and with harder use it sucks since it quickly heats up throttles a lot. The lack of 7.0 isn't helping too.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
We don't have Nougat for the Style or Pure as of yet, so we can't answer your question... except is it really coming? Yes, we believe so, it has been in testing/beta since April.
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
I don't see how almost 3 gb of ram are too low . Most devices fall in this range .
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
POLAND!

Reading is fundamental. :p
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
For those cursing moto x style for delayed nougat and praising nougat, know that Oneplus promised 24 months updates and did indicate op2 will get nougat. But today they've announced op2 will not get nougat. :p

PS: Don't compare moto x style to op3 in terms of updates, op3 came out much later than x style!

PS2: Onpelus X didn't get The nougat update either.

Cheers!
[X Style (Pure) General] mecyborg:
I think switching to a new phone is only option to get it. Its dead for them.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
moto z2 or nokia 9?
[X Style (Pure) General] davidrocher:
It's like 1,5 years old and there's 3gb of RAM. Even if there was 2.5, that is quite enough, unless you want to run 3 heavy games, watch 4k video and run VR at the same time....

I get two days of medium use and 1 day of heavy use. Stock, no battery tweaks.

You have a point here, yes, the new 6-series CPUs perform better and they're much more battery-efficient.

I don't think that's a deal-breaker for most of the people

I won't. Here's why: X Style is a flagship and was designed with that in mind. It has a metal frame, good quality screen and the camera quality is much better than G5+. The only reasons why some would prefer G5+ over X Style are fingerprint reader and battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
AND, in the US the G5 / Plus does not have NFC.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
for the 3 gigs... i normally run between 70 and 80% of the ram. i have clash of clans as a game i normally play, since im a meteorologist... i have either a radar widget or during the summer i run satellite widgets of the atlantic and 2 small sections zoomed in, another weather widget with temperature and pressure, 2 4x6 widgets of google news and drudge report, poweramp widget, and finally a large calendar of the month.

those always were the setup and over time apps get updated but the percent of ram use is still the same around 60-80%. so thats why ram is important to me
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
some redditers reported that moto is thinking off removing the status bar..

they are sending survey's via survey monkey

link for survey:https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZXNBLJM

link of reddit source:https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/6gc8lx/just_got_a_survey_invitation_from_motorola_about/
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
The Nokia 9 looks promising. But unlocked, or unlockable bootloader, is a must. I hope they will keep to their promise of timely updates as well. However, I think I would prefer a mid-range device with a SD 6xx processor in the $200-$300 range so the rumored Nokia 7 looks more promising. With my usage, a mid-range device meets my needs.
[X Style (Pure) General] davidrocher:
Which is good. If you want to know why, read more about how Android manages RAM.

TL;DR: free RAM = wasted RAM
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
how is that good? im using 80% of the entire amount of ram available. im in barbados where im using gsm and still barely get past a day. the only thing lasting longer than a day is my sonim xp bolt and it still on since last week and a half.

funny note: thank god i didnt take my moto x with me because i forgot my sonim was in my pocket and i went into the water at the beach and find out my phone was in my pocket when i was doing some snokeling. just found my sonim in my backpack and still havent rinsed it yet but its still running!

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you shouldnt have dropped it! im able to still buy phones and put it on my plan (android or iphone only now since they cant put me back on the blackberry during a temp issue with my x).

for my plan... i just call them for a swap and now i just buy the phone out right from online manufacturers or amazon if i need a temp. they switch my phone no problem and i still get the best speeds and services. lol i was telling someone here how i use alot of data and they said "why do you use so much data? why not wifi?", and i said "the wifi here can sometimes be ****ty and there is LTE in barbados with FLOW. its like $40 dollars US for 10 gigs but honestly this is nothing like i do in the US with unlimited". now that im finding myself using google voice to call in the US and facebook video chat, im finding myself using 10 gigs quicky
[X Style (Pure) General] Jammmmm:
Moderator Edit: Don't peddle stuff on here...
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
A moment of silence for SERO

Perhaps; perhaps not. It's not the changing of phones that causes people to lose the plan; it's changes to the plan itself. Going from SERO 500 to SERO P would not be possible in all likelihood (at least according to the peanut gallery).

That's pretty impressive. I think my personal record for cellular data on one billing cycle was ~3.5GB. And that was with having done lots of tethering and having streamed a couple of movies (in addition to my typical usage).
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I usually use about 5 GB per month. I don't use wifi calling. I stream music and Waze virtually the whole time I'm driving and surf forums and the Facebook (while not driving).
[X Style (Pure) General] maxawesome:
That's just...ridiculously wrong for mobile devices where battery life is a factor. You don't want constant RAM saturation for a number of reasons:

RAM that is actively holding data consumes more power.

Holding apps in memory causes the CPU to work harder than it would otherwise, thus consuming more power.

Clearing apps out of memory to make room for the app you just launched also causes the CPU to work harder, and thus consume more power.

RAM is a lot like storage, in that you don't want complete saturation at all times. It is meant to be a cache that is used when needed, and dormant when not. If you constantly filled up your storage, because by your logic "free space = wasted space", you'd have to constantly juggle the content you stored to make room for new content, which is both resource- and time-consuming.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
You really don't understand how Android and Linux uses ram do you?
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I think you miss the idea behind RAM management and how it works. Technically, more RAM usage does not mean the RAM itself is using more power. RAM is fully powered when a device is powered on regardless of usage. And holding an app in memory does not mean the app will necessarily use CPU cycles. It can be dormant, and use virtually no more power than the RAM itself uses. But when it comes time that the user, or some automated task, launches the app again, it uses LESS power by NOT using as many CPU cycles and less time accessing the actual storage of the device. If RAM usage is saturated with active apps, and the system is dumping active apps in memory to launch another, then yes, there will be more CPU cycles used because the system has to work to reload the app that got dumped. If a user is experiencing this, then they are having one of several problems: they have rogue app(s) running, they are running things they don't intend to run, or they just don't have enough RAM to cover the way they use their device (i.e. 1.5Gb of RAM for Marshmallow/Nougat is not sufficient to multitask). Chances are if a user is at this point, there will be noticeable lag and other issues.

For the most part any decent modern OS utilizes RAM in the way mentioned above.
[X Style (Pure) General] rootzplz:
Agreed. The SOC in the G5 is just as powerful as that in the Pure but is much more power efficient and also has better radios (including its Bluetooth implementation). The screen isn't UHD, but in all honesty, your aren't going to notice the difference.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
If you want impressive... Check out this link and you will read an article about me on android forums. This is when 3g Rev. A started being rolled out and wimax was only limited to certain cities

https://m.androidcentral.com/man-who-gets-his-moneys-worth-forums]
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I've always preferred Motorola phones, because the radios are stronger than other brands, but the G5 has had many threads written about its poor call quality.

His could it have a stronger radio than the MXPE, but so many complaints?
[X Style (Pure) General] p605sve:
XT1575

2017.06.12 Nothing happening.. strong US comany now become cheep china ****.. ;( sad..
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Memory lane!

I think I remember reading that back in the day. I guess if somebody had absolutely no other Internet connection and did nothing but download HD movies constantly, then it'd be possible. I'd bet that his 50GB was probably accomplished largely (if not completely) on WiMAX though.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
I guess Lenovo is too busy jamming nougat into the E4 & E4 plus.. SMH!
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
Nothing wrong with that.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
Yeah I really don't care, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there as I read this thread everyday and find it both entertaining & knowledgeable. ---- my mxpe works great on official stock but I am looking forward to better multi window support (for media purposes) and really looking forward to the double tap recent view button. and maybe a better touch latency response ---- it is cool the E4 is being shipped with 7.1 as a low end device. what's not cool is reading it on my mxpe ?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
Bro... That person was me and no it wasn't wimax, it was 3g through slingbox
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Hooray Slingbox!

:eek: That's even more impressive. I know I never got very good PQ with my Slingbox on 3G, even with a strong EvDo signal (and that was with it tethered to the computer). It's definitely a good way to chew through data though. Do you still use your 'box?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
Using it still while I'm here in Barbados
[X Style (Pure) General] davidrocher:
Constant ram saturation is one thing, complaining about having only 15% of ram free is another. Here's a quote from an article I found on the internet:
[X Style (Pure) General] user7743:
I'm afraid you are wrong unless android has significantly rewritten Linux which I am doubting. Android, like all their Linux based OS's, are designed to utilise as much RAM as is available. As above, unused RAM wasted RAM. I can point you to multiple articles on why this is "as designed" if you want to read up on the subject.

Edited to add, there is actually a min free ram setting in android to avoid your point of RAM saturation, however within limits, Linux uses as much RAM as it has available.
[X Style (Pure) General] Vink67:
I buy mine 200€. Really cheap for the spec !

You can't find a phone with this spec for 200€.

I always buy 2 years old phone.

If you are like me and don't care about having last new phone with last Android O, than go for it !

I love mine.:good:
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
Here in brazil started today to arrive via ota, I will arrange the zip for you
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
What started? Nougat update?
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
Update 7.0 nougat
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
A zip would be great
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzmb29g14ps9phd/AndroidN_OTA_25.11.15_ZIP-CLARK_MOTOXPURE.zip?dl=0

The first time, in the quarterback, remember that my model is 1572, if it does not work, let me know that I try to solve it, and if this works, give me an update feedback, I hope I have helped
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
Do you mean public roll out has been started and not soak test update? Also, can you please upload the same file on Google Drive? That would be of great help. Thank you.
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
Public launch, at least here in Brazil, at the moment I can not because my internet is very bad, I have only 2mb of internet
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
OTA file has been removed.
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
No, Dropbox says:

"Error (429)

This link is temporarily disabled. The person who shared it hit their daily limit of traffic or downloads. Learn about traffic limits."

I'm uploading to Mega. Not sure about my limits.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aleycat:
not removed probably, just the download limit has been reached
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Error (429)

This link is temporarily disabled. The person who shared it hit their daily limit of traffic or downloads. Learn about traffic limits

yeah limit exceeded.. try after 3-4 hrs... it'll be available then
[X Style (Pure) General] drjecky:
i have that . zip file, first i test it and if work than i reupload to g drive
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
it will work but some cons:

1) if you are having 2 Sims then 1 won't work

2) you might get lots of fc's

3) bit unstable

i accidentally flashed ret_eu instead of rer_asia and i faced this issues
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
OTA to 7.0, 25.200.15, RETLA DualSim.

Thanks to [MENTION=8322255]MikaruTakanori[/MENTION]

https://mega.nz/#!Ithk2CgI!dFoaMysOarvpRF6LscbLCOwbo_1_h6QT7P8KTRtnvFQ

Updater script:

https://mega.nz/#!Zo4HQRIC!LHrU-jNho8PchWzfCDqaxRKqAd8jh9_SUwHriwuFsfo

If anyone has rooted RETLA DS maybe can flash it with flashfire,

I'm not sure.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Can someone tell me:-

1) Will I be able to install TWRP and custom roms after updating using the LA DS nougat.

2) Should I try to go back to RETASIA DS if I have problems with the LA DS nougat and 1) doesn't work?

If anyone flashes this do let us know how it works for you and which variant of Moto X style / Pure you have.

3. Also what's the use of updater script?

4. Do I need to be on stock marshmallow before flashing this or can I flash it while I'm using a custom ROM
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
[MENTION=5906767]aakashverma0007[/MENTION]

Ad.3.

To look what is inside without​ download full zip.

Ps.

I think you shouldn't use this ota.zip.

It is rather for LA DS rooted phones, for update with flashfire.
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Z3E22j7xZ7eTF5YUg1RVNFak0/view

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I uploaded, more my friends, with the single chip version they are not able to install via recovery know why? This is giving signature error, and I do not know which name to rename the zip file
[X Style (Pure) General] drjecky:
can't install on xt1572 retasia
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
Has anyone managed to install with that name in the zip file?

AndroidN_OTA_25.11.15_ZIP-CLARK_MOTOXPURE.zip
[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Thank you! Another mirror:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/l7qg5fpufpi74yo/AndroidN_OTA_25.11.15_ZIP-CLARK_MOTOXPURE.zip

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Phone should be on XT1572 RETLA DS 6.0 MPHS24.49-18-16, obviously. You can push it by force with any name through Recovery but think twice before.
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
My friend's single chip and failed, android 6.0 will pass the version

24.231.16.clark_reteu.reteu.en.EU retfr
[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Better for you. That would be 99% BRICK after first restart. Read updater-script attentively.

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2All: maybe it would be good idea to wait for TWRP backup. Pushing OTA on a random phone and ROM is a high risk.
[X Style (Pure) General] MikaruTakanori:
I hope I have helped someone with this zip file, if someone has managed to install post photos.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
are these all soak??? caus no official update here in India till now (tried removal sim+rebooted 10 times)
[X Style (Pure) General] rafikowy:
Jesus Christ! I was just waiting for this question from you...

How many times people need to tell you how the whole roll-out process works? How many times we need to explain you that removing sim won't help with receive Nougat? HOW, MANY, TIMES?!
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Mah bad
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Because it's out in Brazil (RETLA) does not mean the other variants are ready and rolling out... In the past we have seen several weeks gap between updates coming out for other variants, even months in some cases... Everyone needs to have patience.

And if you try to apply this to a different model, and even a different version than -16, you're going to have a bad time... It likely won't take, and if you somehow force it, you're likely going to brick, possibly unrecoverable. Remember an OTA is intended to be installed on a specific variant and version of firmware, they are not generic.