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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jasonktse:
ITS the HYPE that I'm mostly fed up with. People have the knowledge of an Iphone through MASS media, and now they compare anything that has a touch screen that can call with the iphone.

I guess it is a natural thing to do, but people think so POSITIVELY about APPLE products that they disregard pretty much their own conscience to judge. SOUNDS like a damn CULT to me when I see APPLE LOVERS just let all the advertisements do the thinking for them instead of having a clear head judging the product.

Also, America has been lacking decent phones that are marketed to almost everyone. We Americans jump to ridiculously silly things because we are so NAIVE......on a whole, not anyone in this forum......(didn't want anyone to get offended) Iphone is mostly a TOY, just like your PSP, or whatever thing you enjoy playing with in your hand. THE TILT on the other hand, gets things done. After the freaking driver gets fixed, then we can start having some fun with it...haha.....okay, thatz it,....its like 5am here for me......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Anyone here notice that Swurve has diappeared?

Maybe he was pwnd to death by all of the comments against him.

Maybe...

But I think that the iPhone UI with the HW of the Kaiser is ther perfect combination, idk why you guys keep dissing it (AHEM SWURVE)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gabriel31337:
Can I order let's say 20 of these? :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mreaglejr:
whahaha don't tell me about that!! :P

but yeah, they always ask me if i have an iphone and then i say no. it's windows mobile. "huh?" ok, querty out, screen up -> woooooooww and then happens the "thing" u just said hehe :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Eh? What thread were you reading? I've just spent (the best :)) 5 mins of my life reading this thread, and there are about 2 comments against him...

Anyhow, put me down for some stickers :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Funny, I mentioned an iPhone in a conversation with friends a little while ago, and they were all like "what's an iPhone?". tbh, I haven't even seen an iPhone IRL yet.

This while everybody seems to know these WM based devices, not that they know they run WM, but everybody and their brother has one of those...

Except for those complete morons that have blackberries, which for some undiscernable reason is becoming more popular here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Beeble:
Simple & pretty - iPhone

Crap out the box... but after a few tweaks the daddy - My Kaiser :)

I know ppl with the iPhone who love that it just works, and looks good. cant do anything else with it! cant customise it, cant even open the damn thing up.

Pretty much, the iPhone is a cute blonde girl - Great to look at, and good fun to play with. But you cant actually do anything more......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Thats what you have friends for :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] phan10m:
Im in high school and the thing here are sidekicks. some palm treos but its all mostly about the sidekick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Now I have to kill you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sWuRv:
Yeah I thought mac was bad with the proprietary software and hardware, then I saw my buddy's sidekick. Holy ****! You have to pay 4 bucks to download a friggin alarm clock! I don't think there is any file structure for it either. I.E.- no file explorer. Now that I think about it, I don't think iphone has a file explorer either. Worst of all, there is no way to download software without paying for it (there are a few free crappy things). I searched all over the web for a way to hack it, and came up empty-handed. Marmolade- I wasn't telling people that they can't get iphone **** for their windows phone, I was just pointing out how retarded the idea was. Sounds to me like I struck a nerve with you.You said it yourself, if you don't like it don't click it. Go dig a hole and **** it, cocksocket.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Now that you mention it, I never heard of the Sidekick either, and T-Mobile is my provider... though not in the US :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] phan10m:
its the lamest device with the stupidest interface ive ever seen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
I use the iPhone emulator and S2U2 for showing off. showing the iphone sucks, as you can get it on a windows mobile phone. ive surprised everyone so far that has one.

i convince them that apple sucks, windows mobile is better, and to finish it off, show them the emulator, they cant compete lol, they have nothing to say.

now i would never use an iphone theme, only something temporary, and switchable, like an exe or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
in the US...everything is a sidekick to the average american.any pocket pc they see it's either a sidekick, and iphone, or a voyager (new verizon touchscreen phone). lol its so gay.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AllTheWay:
I want one of those stickers...How can I go about getting one!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
I have never seen the sidekick phone before, but hell its a ugly one.

Now I love my Kaiser even more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
iPhone emu?

Wanna drop a link?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Wow the Sidekick is one ugly piece of machinery :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sWuRv:
Yeah, I agree. Every time I pull my phone out in public someone is like "Wow is that an Iphone?" and I'm like, "nah *****, it's what the Iphone wishes it was". Then I proceed to stab them in the jaw with my stylus, and deliver a much deserved kick to the liver.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
I got sent to the office today in school for 'fighting.'

He started it, he called my kaiser an iPhone, or more of a 'hey is that an iphone?.'

Idk what happened, but i just got pissed and popped him in the face. Not a proud day for me, gett sent up for someone mis-naming my phone.

But yea im not kidding idk what happened, i just kinda went blind fury on him. im to proud od my kaiser to have it compared to the ****ty, yet better GUI'd, iPhone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kgbeezr1:
What are you, 12?

I never knew a techie to have such immature hostility. The more I read your idiotic comments, the more I like the iPhone I previously hated. Silly arse.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Like a boy that learned a new curse word.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] noxor:
I've gone iphone > Kaiser > iphone

I'll start with this; I have an overall dislide of Apple products. I find their marketing viral and annoying. BUT! I do give credit where credit is due. Apple designed one hell of a phone. The touch screen is flawless and tough glass. The interface is quick, useful, and designed for quick use. I'll also add that the iPhone I've found just as hackable as the Kaiser for now.

I was very egar to jump from the iPhone when I finally had the chance. I bought a tilt, loaded it with HTC f/w and was off to the races. Quickly I found the OS was clunky and the software mirrored what was currently on the iPhone (-MSM office) The features where the same. The Kaiser has +1MP on the camera over the iphone's 2mp camera, but that doesnt help when the Kaiser camera driver is choppy and slow shutter speeds kill the photos. I will say I enjoy having a qwerty keyboard again, but that quickly lost it's appeal over the current OS flaws.

Also, you don't realize how handy the motion sensing component is in the iphone until you try to view the Kaiser and the screen doesnt auto adjust.

I also agree that the plastic screen, after having a glass screen just seems cheap.

Last thing I have to say. The Kaiser is an awesome phone. It hasn't been realized yet. It's like the Playstation 3. It was released before it should have been. Drivers haven't been made, OSs haven't been refined. The platform is rock solid but the software is flakey at best.

I can't wait for the day when I can put the iphone on the shelf and use my TomTom enabled Kaiser.

Cheers

e

P.S. Battery life in the iPhone is at least 2x the Kaiser (Kaiser needs some serious power conservation updates)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ilovemytilt1:
well i will say one thing the iphone surely does deliver on what is promised my tilt on the other hand we all know whats going on with that lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Qaulity line...:D

Buy a sense of humour and you won't need a Jesus-phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] London luke:
IF the next Iphone has GPS and no charge for a new contract etc. then i will have one. i will keep this HTC in good condition and sell it to by the next iphone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] noyz:
You honestly made me bust out laughing in the middle of my Biology lecture. Thanks, lol.

Another thing, I noticed about this forum there are mostly threads about problems, fixes, and things that have gone wrong about the Kaiser. Its somewhat depressing and this thread has definitely helped improve my morale about my Kaiser/Tilt. Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] captainsensible2002:
Errrr, isn't it the nature of a forum like this that the posts will mostly be about problems and fixes, etc etc? People don't tend to post to say that everything is just great....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
True... but on other forums, posts are usually about user error's, i.e. configuration issues/not doing something right/etc. Where as with the Kaiser, it just seems to be: "You can't do that", "It's impossible to change this", "HTC won't change this to make it better because...", So i do see noyz's point...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sean D.:
Same here. But what kills me is that people were/are so "out-of-the-loop" that they actually think or act as though Apple invented touch screen phones.

I agree with the OP, but no need to rant. I only need to show what my phone can do. Pretty much puts an end to the iPhone hype... unless you are dealign with people who ONLY care about 'looks'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hadi8125:
Yeah, I really doubt that happened. I mean now you show pride in having the kaiser but yet you've asked several times for a link to install the iphone skin/ui on your kaiser? Come on man, you're 16, show some more maturity.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nimda0:
Interesting post... although it was kinda idiotic.

Apples are awesome... there are a lot of things they do better than windows installed computers.

The iphone is CURRENTLY a peice of crap, yes.... it has a very good thing going in the way the OS is setup.. but it sucks otherwise because of the limitations it has.

And... super mario rocks.

Shut it. This was a waste of time. Your opinion is your opinion... and you know what they say about opinions.. they are like assholes, and everyone has one... and they all stink.

The kaiser is better... but many people feel the same way I feel about it.. which is that the kaiser is awesome, windows mobile is cool... but the user interface could be a little more appealing which is where the iphone interface comes in.

Goodbye.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pizzaguy:
wow i think you are my twin or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dungbeetle:
Wow. If you want people to respect you and not think of you as an immature kid, I'm not sure posting stories about punching a kid for not being sure what kind of phone you have is the way to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
what can a mac do that a pc cant?

my main concern is that .exe's are the number 1 file type, and Macs cant view them. this is the main reason i think PC's are better, support for more file types.

for example, if you type in "AVI converter" in a search probably 98% of your results will NOT work on a mac, they are all .exes for a PC. Your going to have to do more searching to find a Mac compatible version. this is only an example. when your trying to search for an app that does something you want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
haha thats good..

sometimes i just say "yes" and show them the iphone emulator (keep in mind when i say emulator im refering to one of those .exes that you launch that make it look like one) and then they realize it's not an iphone but has iphone features, they get confused, and in the end realize my device is better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greenbrd:
Wow. What an ignorant, homophobic, socialistic rant.

What business is it of yours how somebody sets up their phone, and why do you not have anything better to do than care about it? Maybe you're just tired of trying to explain to the rednecks at the Piggly Wiggly that your device ain't one of them new eyephone thingees.

The beauty of a WM device is that it gives the user the freedom to set it up however they want. WM devices are symbols of Democracy. But I suppose it's not surprising that somebody who comes from Bush country would want to thrash Democracy and take away people's freedom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
I myself dont like iphone themes. but i will use a .exe. one of those that you launch and now it looks like an iphone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] netman192:
The only thing that is cool about the Iphone is that you can use your finger instead of a stylus. I wish wm6 had that kind of interface. But otherwise, wm is so much better. The iphones lack of any good 3rd party apps, GPS, 3G support, a TERRIBLE keyboard and lack of hackability make it far worse than any wm device.

Like I always say "people who cant use a computer, use a mac."

People with the iphone think they are so cool, when really they are too dumb to realize how inferior there phone is to all other smartphones on the market today.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
And everything that you wrote is also an oppinion and therefore worthless...;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
I think the interesting part is that you can make a WM UI look like an ihpone, but you cant get the iphone to do anything to look like...well....anything. WM has so much more range when it comes to UI and features, and most importantly flexibility. Look at the apps for WM....now TRY looking for apps for iphone.

Eh, my two cents. iphone is just like the yo-yo, pokemon, and every other fad that i've lived through, and like all fads...it'll die a slow painful death
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] arnoo:
are we in the 80's there?

war between amstrad and commodore?

past doesn't teached you anything?

woooooooh!

waiting now for godwin.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] macsbac:
I have a jail break iPhone with 1.1.3 on it. Its fully customisable and there are hundreds of apps out there for the iPhone already despite the SDK only being made available. To say otherwise is a myth.

The Kaiser's basic features and basic performace are what really let it down. To release such a device which performs at best on par with an older device was a large mistake. Apple have 3 updates out already tackling many of the issues their customers have. What have we got from HTC? Nothing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
I'm not sure "hundreds of apps" qualifies as "fully customisable". Yeah, the Kaisers performace does lack a little, but what it lacks in one area it makes up in other places. If HTC releases a fix for this kaiser issue, be it drivers, be it something else, I will still enjoy this phone regardless of its lack of performance issues. Even if it was supplied with the proper drivers, I'm sure many would sell it for another, higher capacity phone. 6 months down the like I'm sure the a 3rd generation of this phone will poke its head out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
RROOOFL HAHHAA...

A lil' harsh, but hot DAMN! Right to the point. Stole my thoughts.

W/e everyone else says - you're spot on.

Everyone need to watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=i7589-W9TNI
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kidnamedAlbert:
im down for one!

**** iphone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dortyboy:
hey i work at starbucks. am a manager there and i own an htc touch cruise so watch what u say before i come find u and **** u up. word
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bellfazar:
Windows machines don't run .app files. An .exe is an application compiled for the Windows architecture. An .app file is an application compiled for the OS X architecture. To say that because a Mac doesn't run .exe files it must be poor is like saying that Windows machines suck because they can't cook you breakfast. Just retarded.

This guy is reviewing OS 9.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MsAzzy:
:RIP: :TOMBSTONE: too funny!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NiteStalker:
LOL, put me down for a sticker too :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] YettaVR6:
I agree, except for the gay comments (i'm gay), and what's wrong with a vw jetta? I'd drive my jetta over any ford any day. But yea, i'm sick of everyone asking me if my Tilt is an iphone. The iphone is very nice to use though. The touch screen has no lag and is very accurate compared to the Kaiser. But no activesync and no 3G + tethering is a total deal breaker for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GilesTheAlmighty:
Apple focus on marketting their products and darn they do a good job! People also say to me, "hey is that an iPhone" ..

i then glare at them and mentally throw and iphone at them and the screen thus-ly cracks and i laugh :)

that is i do it mentally

Speaking from experience (my brother owns an iPhone) you have to admit that it has some nice apps on it, for example it has a guitar, piano and drum program. Which i must say is amazing because of the multi-touch it makes it possible to play guitar rifs, piano music and drum beats :P

but alas, that is where the ACTUAL good sides in my point of view end, the rest is not worth the hype, just the 4rd party apps that developers have created are AWESOME

(ps complimenting the Devs, not Apple)

similarly on this forum, M$ have done a poor job on the interface, and the Devs here have made a HUGE improvement!

now if our Devs could make some drivers they would truely BE gods :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
After reading this thread i've come to a conclusion. These are the types of people:

1. iphone fanboys - self explanitory

2. kaiser fanboys - self explanitory

3. the moderates - they look at the phones as devices, not life partners.

Pretty much, it just comes down to what you use it for. If you want to be with the crowd, get the iphone. If you enjoy apps like piano, or guitars, get it. If you want a device that does utility work, such as Word, Excell, GPS, 3G, and the like, then get a Kaiser.

When it comes to purpose, its comparing apples to oranges. Such as the purpose mentioned above. In GPS, Kaiser rapes, in 3g Kaiser rapes, in funtionality, kaiser rapes, in being "with the crowd", kaiser fails, in having apps like drums, piano and the like, kaiser fails.

If you want to be in the crowd, play chopsticks or guitar without a real guitar, have the same phone you see on TV, surf with Safari, and use multi tap touch screen, listen to your music... go with the iphone.

If you want GPS, Wifi, 3G, QWERTY, Flexibility, if you have busisness needs, or whatever, then get a Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] macsbac:
it is fully customizable, you can change ringtones, sounds, icons, backgrounds etc. Other customisations such as HTC cube etc are just 3rd party apps running on the OS. The iPhone is fully customizable. As for HTC I paid a premium price for an underperformng device and their response is unacceptable. Then look at apples responses to their customers, already 3 patches, the release of the iPhone SDK and now a major deal with google creating iGoogle.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
Thats like saying a car with doors, windows, wheels and a stearing wheel is "well equipped". I see all of that as standard, ringtones, wallpaper, and the like. Even my cousins Krazr can have changed ringtones, wallpaper, and icons...does that make it fully customizable? Features are GPS, WIFI, 3G, QWERTY and TouchScreen...those are real features, not just stuff that the phone can do. But I guess its about semantics. To you features are ringtones and sounds, but to me features are 3G, WIFI, and GPS and so on.

It seems the most you have riding on your argument is the fact that HTC isn't providing updates. They've put out new roms before for many phones , and just because they haven't put out a fix yet for the Kaiser doesn't mean they never will. So I wonder what your argument would be once/if HTC puts out a fix.

Either way, I see the kaiser superior because it does what I want it to do. GPS, 3G, WIFI, fully customizable. I can take out the battery, if I'd like. 32 gig capacity, QWERTY, Word, and so on.

I'd like to point out that I take a crap on Kasier and iPhones and all other phones in the future. They are just slaves to me. They dont control what I do or anything....so in no way am I a fanboy. If iPhone had the things Kaiser did, I'd sell the Kaiser and go to iPhone. Who cares what phone you have, as long as it does what you want. So like I said earlier, Apples to Oranges in terms of purpose.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] qirex:
lol at comparing the tilt to an iphone.

ive had a tilt for 5 months, have duttys cube 6.0 n touch flo w/ htc home. its better than stock, but the iphone blows away the tilt in terms of use and ui.

the tilt has the edge ON PAPER, until you realize that...

a) EDGE and safari while slow, is ALMOST as fast as PIE and 3G on the tilt due to poor systems software and h/w performance.

b) the tilt's wifi radio SUX!

once the 3G cap iphone comes out, its mine. The kaiser is just too damn pokey compared to the smooth fluidity and crashfree nature of the iphone.

btw, texting on a iphone is pretty damn easy. amazing when stuff just works how it should!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] f1ip:
My sis has an iPhone, she would rather have my phone instead after using it (the iPhone).

I've used it, didnt like how it felt. Too thin for its weight.

It actually took me longer to learn to use and set up. Not to mention it DOES NOT READ SIM CONTACTS out of the box. Putting in wallpapers is a *****. Loading ringtones is a piss in the ass.

After a while, you get to learn how to use most of it, its not bad. It's just missing features that i'm used to.

Now as far as the Kaiser having iPhone interface.. yeah.. I dont really like them except for the PCM contacts. I prefer the Windows feel on my phone. not MAC.

Bottom line is. WTF is with all this iPhone crap on the Kaiser!!?? :mad: