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[Moto Maxx General] dwh2o13:
Sorry to hear the V30+ isn't up for bootloader unlock yet. That sucks. Figured you had probably found WETA at this point, but was going to recommend it if you hadn't. I ran it briefly on my V20, but then went to a slightly more current updated stock build, us99610n. So far I've been happy with it along with the additional mods I'm running(pic below). I know the developer, [MENTION=4553200]Mentalmuso[/MENTION] is a great dev and had the v20 versions running great! I think he uses a Note 8 as well, and is well respected among the V20 users, including me.

Yea, I'm leaning toward the Pixel 2 xl at this point but not by much. Based on what I've been reading, many of the initial problems including the burn in have been addressed for the most part. Users seem to be much happier with the newer waives of production for the P2XL.

The discouraging news lately though has been with the introduction of Androids newest OS. "P" seems to not be getting much good news. I'm also hearing that some of that code may have made it's way into the March update(not entirely sure if that's true at this point), but it has caused a real problem for Substratum for sure. Hope this doesn't end up being a huge block for future development for root and theming. Seems it's getting more and more difficult for developers to keep features of previous custom roms in tact with each new os... shame:(

Anyway, thanks for your input man.. Glad to hear your doing well. Good luck with your V30's.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Yes, he's great. Very responsive. I've donated money to him via PayPal.

He not only did WETA ROM, but cranked out a TWRP version for US998.

I'll be running that ROM on my V30. May have to sell my V30+ and just buy another V30 for backup.

Or maybe once LG releases that new V30 variant (with the AI camera, more RAM), then they'll add all the V30/V30+ open market LG US998 to the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website...

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] NepoRood:
Everything comes down to the user and what they want in a device. Our "opinions" are just that, opinions. So, here's mine:

A) Not that hard to do, I recommend a heat gun, though. It'll make separating a bit easier.

B) Lots of options there, new devices are coming frequently

C) I'm perfectly happy with my Pixel XL (OG: Marlin, SD821), great battery life, excellent performance and development has picked up (I even have a ROM for it ;) ).

D) Think I covered that with "C"

In the end, the choice is yours. No one here can make it for you, shop around and get what you want/need. And don't forget to check Swappa...
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
Nepo, is your pixel rooted? Curious is all.

Thx
[Moto Maxx General] NepoRood:
Yes, rooted, TWRP'd and ROM'd

The only real "issue" is the a/b partitions, so flashing is done a bit differently, but you get use to it :good:
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
Well, I bit the bullet yesterday and ordered the lg v30 vs996 ( Verizon's locked edition). It was quite a mental battle, but, in the end this is what I decided on. If it doesn't work out, I can change in ten months (one year plan).

Chazz, do you have any recommendations or tips for us non bootloader unlocked guys:(?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
On initial setup make sure you enable app drawer (it's not the default choice, instead ALL your apps on desktop is default choice).

Nova launcher, custom icon pack, install Blokada from F-Droid for ad blocking.

Enable Developer Options, turn on GPU rendering. Also, set all animation transitions to 0.5.

For right now, keep all camera settings on auto until you are sure. On selfie camera, turn down to zero all lighting and fleshtone adjustments.

I have screenshots of all my settings. I can upload them somewhere maybe this weekend.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
Ok, thx. I appreciate it.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
I started this thread in April 2017 and went through year waiting for and then eliminating phones that could replace my beloved Quark, without losing any features like QHD (1440p) OLED, Qi wireless charging, and 3.5mm headset jack. While also GAINING features that have become de rigueur for premium Android phones in the past couple of years, like IP68 dust/water resistance and fingerprint sensor.

I also wanted to be able to root the phone to keep total control. By the end of the 2017, the only phone that met those requirements (for me in the U.S.) and also was aesthetically pleasing was the open market LG V30 US998. The Exynos Galaxy Note 8 was just too large.

The LG V30 was not even on the original list back in post #1, but the LG G6 was... and it failed. The end-of-year LG V30 was what the LG G6 SHOULD have been. It's a more refined version of the LG G6.

I may keep this thread going to discuss 2018 phones, but they will have to beat the Quark while also competing with the excellent LG V30...

The 2018 Exynos Galaxy S9 and S9+ would technically meet my requirements, but the LG V30 is still like the "Goldilocks" size -- right between the too small S9 and the larger S9+.
[Moto Maxx General] AlgebraicB:
Hey ChazzMatt, how have you been feeling about the general battery performance of the V30? That's the only thing that's keeping me from buying that phone.
[Moto Maxx General] Grynch13:
Finally had to change phones

Well microphone went dead a while ago I was able to hang in with Bluetooth but just got a moto g5 plus 64gb with 4 gigs ram I will miss the quark but off to bootloader unlocked from the factory and Oreo ROMs with volte working on Verizon. I will keep the quark and hopefully get Oreo on it when it comes out someday. Thanks to the awesome developers who kept this phone alive and current all these years
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
My battery life has been very good. I was skeptical going from 5.2" 1440p display with 3900 mAh battery to 6" 1440p display with 3300 mAh battery. But I've been surprised. Maybe it's that my Quark battery has degraded more than I realized, but with the Quark I would browse the web, read email and articles for 15 minutes and my battery would be down to 90%. I do that on my LG V30 and it's a 99%, sometimes still says 100%. Like NO, I've been using my phone and it's still at 100%?

My wife's phone is the real test subject. She's at work, she never plugs in. On her Quark, she would get home and her battery would always be in the 20s. Always. One time we went out to dinner right after work and it was 14% by the time we were driving home.

On her LG V30, same usage, it's always in the 70s, maybe once or twice in the 60s.

Due to my Quark experience, I do have a charger in my car and I have a charger at work (with a 10 ft cord), but now that's just in case.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
WTF -- LG V30/V30+ Bootloader Unlock and Root (MOST VARIANTS)

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/help/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76584629#post76584629
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Die, Essential, Die!

Essential reportedly cancels next phone, considers sale

It just wasn't successful enough.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/24/essential-cancels-phone-considers-sale/

Suckers!
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
You can buy mint Sprint LG V30+ (128GB internal storage + microSD card) for $325 on eBay, then convert them to US998.

In 10 minutes it's a carrier unlocked US998 V30+. ;)

10 more minutes it bootloader unlocked and rooted.

Just

converted my 2nd Sprint LS998 V30+ to carrier unlocked US998 V30+

. MINT on ebay for $325.

About to

bootloader unlock, TWRP and root it.

http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30

US998

CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA

2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz

4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66

You can also do that with other phones from around the world with the European H930 KDZ.

If you have"H930" (either actual or converted), you will have these bands:

2G GSM: 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G (HSPA): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

4G LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/8/12/17/20/28/38
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Verizon users can add VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling to their bootloader unlocked/TWRPed/rooted phone. And you don't even need the "Verizon" V30 to do that. ANY V30/V30+ (EXCEPT T-mobile H932 V30) can have Verizon VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling added after you finish the bootloader unlock/TWRP/root process.

Many people are buying "mint" Sprint LS998 V30+ for $325 off eBay and using those. However if you use Verizon network, you will just need an already-activated Verizon SIM card.

When the process is over you end up with a converted US998 V30/V30+.

http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30

US998

CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA

2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz

4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66

Then for Verizon users you flash the files to add back Wi-Fi calling and then activate VoLTE in the hidden menu. It's all in that thread above.

IF you don't use Verizon (I don't), then you won't care about that, but there are a lot of Verizon customers in this forum due to the Droid Turbo ROMs.
[Moto Maxx General] pizmak:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] I am really tempted to jump ship to the V30

This LS998 V30+ from ebay after shipping and adding EU tax is still cheaper than new 64GB H930 and at around the same price as a used 64GB H930. I just wish it would come in the aurora blue colour (I really like my blue ballistic nylon xt1254) but I guess I can have it all ;)

I am still going through the thread in V30 forum, do You know if I can convert this LS998 to H930 or is it only possible to go to the us unlocked version US998?

Just to clarify, I can unlock the bootloader on this LS998 after conversion??

[EDIT] I think I can now answer my own questions :)

I can only convert this sprint variant LS998 to other American variants like US998. To convert to EU open market version H930 I would need to buy European model like H930DS.

I think any phone that is convertible either to US998 OR H930 is bootloader unlockable by some trivial exploit in oreo firmware.

going after a 128GB version here in Poland would cost me about 700USD (but I could choose any colour I want), the 128GB sprint version from ebay will be 425USD with shipping and EU tax (but only black colour is available on ebay). So this seems to be a straight forward decision, I will go with the sprint LS998 and covert it to US998 to bootloader unlock. Thanks [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] for the info and the useful manuals in the V30 forums.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Yes, your conclusion is correct. Any of the North America V30/V30+ variants can be converted to any of the other North America variants V30/V30+ -- but of those North America variants only the US998 on Oreo KDZ can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.

For the rest of the world, it's the H930 and H930DS.

Only the North America LG US998, European H930, H930DS, (and new V30S) can be bootloader unlocked and rooted -- but any other V30/V30+ (except T-Mobile H932) can be converted to those.

As for color, you NEED a case on this phone. It's very slippery with the back glass. See my cases thread in the V30 forum. Point is, the color of your case will be the color of your phone. ;) THAT is what everyone if going to see anyway. ;)

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] 4stringenator:
Great info ChazzMatt! Pulled the trigger on a V30 yesterday. (My Turbo is still rocking because of this killer group of devs and folks like you.) I just couldn't pass this up for a chance for a newer device with BL unlock and great audio specs. The Verizon bonus is icing on the cake. :good:
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
June 21, 2018

Yeah, I've seen you now over in the V30 forum in the past month! Smart decision. ;) For Verizon users here on XDA, the Droid Turbo is officially END OF LIFE.

________

END OF CDMA COMING!

Verizon is shutting off CDMA at end of 2019

. Verizon will become LTE-only network, which means you will need a phone with VoLTE on Verizon, by end of next year.

People NOT on Verizon don't care. But for people on Verizon using the XT1254/XT1250 with custom ROMs, you've got less than 1.5 years to get another phone. Or go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow for VoLTE?

For people looking for another phone, the LG V30/V30+/V30S is fantastic. For Verizon users you don't even need a "Verizon" branded model, you can convert any North America V30 variantl (like the

Sprint LS998 V30+, mint $320 -- with 128GB internal storage and 4GB RAM. I bought two of those.

) to use for Verizon. Many people have done that.

Bootloader unlock, TWRP and root and [URL="https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development"]

custom ROMs available

[/URL]. Just do NOT NOT buy T-mobile H932. All V30/V30+/V30S -- EXCEPT for T-mobile H932 -- can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then you can use on whatever carrier you want -- including Verizon with VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling. See here for

one smart blonde female Verizon user on V30 custom ROM

.

The LG V30 is the one phone with all the specs of the Quark + more. I didn't lose anything.

OLED 1440p QHD,

Qi wireless charging,

4GB/6GB RAM,

64GB/128GB/256GB internal memory,

microSD card storage

dual rear cameras with OIS

headset jack with quad DAC,

IP68,

fingerprint sensor.

Bootloader unlock, TWRP, root, custom ROMs.

NO OTHER PHONE HAS ALL THAT. Not even the Pixel 2 XL (no headset jack, no Qi wireless charging). Not the stupid OnePlus (no 1440p QHD, no Qi wireless charging, no IP rating whatsoever -- much less IP68)

But you've still got plenty of time to switch! (end of 2019) Just want to let everyone be informed.

However, if you are on Verizon and thinking of switching, now might be time to sell the Droid Turbo.
[Moto Maxx General] jrmt077:
I just wanted to thank you for all the support you provided in this and the Droid Turbo forum over the years. Because of you and other great contributors I learned to unlock & root my XT1254, install and delete what I wanted, NOT Verizon, extend the usefulness of my phone with root apps like Greenify, Titanium, Magisk etc. I do realize now that it is several generations old and even though it still seems fresh and does everything I need, the time has come. The LG V40 or Pixel 3XL (if Qi) are on my short list by the end of 2018.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
You are welcome!

LG V40 may not be rootable (we'll see) and have ugly notch.

Pixel 3XL reportedly will have Qi wireless charging, but no headset jack and have ugly notch. :p

Mint LS998 V30+ (128GB) easily convertible to US998 V30+ and bootloader unlocked and rooted are on eBay for $315. Just sayin... After bootloader unlock, TWRP and root, there's even a TWRP-flashable Verizon stock file to flash to, like a ROM.

[ROM][VS996][Stock][OREO] LG-VS996 20D ROM

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-vs996-20d-rom-t3830564

[MENTION=6310792]4stringenator[/MENTION] (whose post in this thread is a couple above this one) is very active over there.
[Moto Maxx General] newbe1droidx:
Awesome info thanks Chazz.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Mint US998 are available on eBay for $300. Look for yywireless dealer.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] newbe1droidx:
I found that one but also found new sealed in box v30 plus us998 128 gig but for us cellular. So i would need to root, twrp and convert to verizon?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Yes. You would bootloader unlock the US998 first, install TWRP, and root. Then you would flash the Verizon TWRP stock file and re-root. You now have "Verizon" VS996 V30+ (which Verizon doesn't even offer V30+).

Sort of like flashing a computerfreak stock based ROM. You have root, Verizon VoLTE, visual voicemail, etc.

Qi wireless charging, IP68, fingerprint sensor, headset jack, microSD card. All stuff in Quark and more. Much better than Pixel!

If wanted to mess with AOSP custom ROMS, that's a more advanced topic.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] newbe1droidx:
Is it easier to mod yywireless with asop or same?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Ignore it says it's for US CELLULAR. It's the official carrier unlocked for all North America carriers.

You can run that on Verizon, as is. But of course you want to bootloader unlock and root. After which, your can run on Verizon, still as US998.

But you probably want Verizon visual voicemail, etc. Which comes when you flash to VS996 (VERIZON) firmware. While still being rooted and having TWRP.

For AOSP ROMs, all that would happen after bootloader unlock and TWRP of US998. ALL North America V30 (except T-mobile H832) have to either be US998 or be converted to US998 for bootloader unlock and TWRP. After that you can flash to what you want, either carrier stock firmware or AOSP ROMS.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] newbe1droidx:
Yes i do thx for the advise!

V30 n 30 plus all same software/firmware tho?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Yes. Only difference is internal memory.
[Moto Maxx General] gangrenius:
What's the fastest Rom for our old quark! I'm on rr 8.1 but it's slow at mutkitaskig and loading apps.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Ah, theoretically Nougat RR could be faster. or Marshmallow. Or even stock Kitkat. ;)

A lot of the problem however is the Quark only has 3GB RAM. I kept having to "clear all" to get 1GB RAM free. If I had 300MB-400MB the phone would lag like crazy. But if I "clear all" in Recents to get 1GB RAM free, then it would respond again for some time.

Most phones since 2014 (2015, 2016, 2017) have at least 4GB RAM and . App have gotten heavier, and some like Chrome browser sucks a lot of RAM.

Phones like sibling 2014 Moto Nexus 6 (Shamu) can keep up better because their development was very open source and they got updated stock Nougat (with kernel) from Google to work with:

Yeah, even a year ago -- October 2017 -- they were receiving NEW factory updates from Google!

Whereas [MENTION=2030317]BHB2[/MENTION]7 had to use Moto Marshmallow kernel for Nougat, Oreo, and now Pie.

I loved the Quark, bought three of them, was my daily phone for over 3 years (2014-2017). [MENTION=2030317]BHB2[/MENTION]7 (now he's changed his name, when did that happen?) has done miracles to keep this phone alive.

But at some point, you will probably have to let it go. That was why I started this thread. I could see the demands of newer apps was bogging down the Quark. I chose the LG V30+ and several from this Quark forum have also joined over there. It really seems to be the best successor to the spirit of the Moto Quark, since Motorola lost their way.

1440P OLED (537 ppi)

Qi wireless charging

3.5mm headset jack

Quad DAC

4GB RAM

IP68 dust/water resistance

rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens

superfast fingerprint sensor

128GB internal storage

microSD port for additional storage

bootloader unlock and root

All the stuff I have bolded are improvements over the Quark. All the stuff NOT bolded are what we already have. ;) So, you see with LG V30+ you aren't losing anything, you are keeping what you have and gaining more.

You can get mint

US998 LG V30+ for $295 on eBay.

Bootloader unlock and root, run on Verizon. Even flash Verizon stock firmware if you want, or flash custom ROMs.
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
Just ordered a US998. USB port is breaking on my quark. I was going to just find another used quark, but then read about verizon ending CDMA so I guess it is time to try somthing else. Is the qi charging on the v30 any faster?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
LG says it is...

But think you need one of those higher voltage single coil pads. I just use it with my regular 3-coil tilt charging pads.

But you made a good decision. Many others are already over there. Here's longtime Verizon Droid Turbo [MENTION=5420028]gimpy1[/MENTION] now on LG 30 RR:
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
So I was reading through the instructions to root and unlock the V30 that you put together with others. Am I reading everything correct that in order to have the verizon features that the "stock rom" from westwood24 needs to be installed? There isn't an option right now to run any ROM and just flash over portions of Verizon firmware to make it work? Or do other ROMs support wifi calling, video calling, etc.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Uhmmm. Not quite correct. [MENTION=5420028]gimpy1[/MENTION] and others are running RR and other custom roms on Verizon with everything, I think.

And you can always flash Verizon moderms on any custom ROM (even though US998 also works on. Verizon).

But just like here with CF stock based ROMs and Lineage based ROMs, you're not going to be able to mix and match a lot of stuff. But the custom ROMs over there have VoLTE.

My bootloader unlock and root guide is just that, it's not intended to jump into flashing ROMs. I tell people how to get back to stock Verizon firmware easily, with TWRP and root. Then they can decide what they want to do next themselves.
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
ok thanks,I was reading this for preparation for the v30+ and It sounded like the only way to get the verizon features was to run stock verizon or portions of it. Good to hear that RR has VoLTE working with verizon. I'll have to check that out and see what it is all working.
[Moto Maxx General] schwinn8:
Hello Chazz... fellow transplant from the Droid Turbo forums! Thanks for all the great details on this thread - I happened across the V30 as well, and am considering it to replace my wife's Turbo. Just to confirm, it like I can do a V30/30+, and that I can get any variant except the US Cellular one (HS903, I think?) and then convert it to US998, root, and then go to VS996 if I wanted to (or run as US998 and just add VoLTE?). Is that all true/correct?

In addition to Raistlen0's question above (which you answered, so thanks!), I have one more: My concern is that I will be on Total Wireless (not VZ directly). When I check the IMEI of a Sprint phone (https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-Plus-LS998-128GB-Black-Sprint-Good-Condition-Clean-ESN/223150129501) on TW's website for compatibility... and it says it's not compatible. Maybe this is because it's an LS998? Will the IMEI change when I convert it to US998 or VS996, or is there some other trick I need to make it work on TW? (Or maybe it will work even though TW's site says it won't?)
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] So far one thing I miss, well 2, is no IR sensors and no gesters. Unless I'm missing some thing
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Right, no IR sensors but the stock Aways On Display (AOD) gives you the same black & white Moto Display functionality that you get with IR sensors. Most OEMs have dropped IR sensors in recent years.

By gestures, can you explain more? Which gestures exactly? I'm slow today...

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
That AOD is just that right (always on)? I liked just the quick wave and then it would go off again.

By gestures I meant the twist and chop chop.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
There's apps that can replicate that functionality. Here's one:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidrocker.shakeflashlight

Also I believe that some custom roms can let you program gestures functions. But don't quote me on that.

_______

Yes AOD stays on all the time. But you can make it dimmer or brighter in the settings. It doesn't use any battery, and after while you just ignore that it's there all the time.
[Moto Maxx General] Raistlen0:
Thanks for the info
[Moto Maxx General] schwinn8:
Hmm, my question appears to be ignored or missed. Did I do something wrong?

Basically, does the IMEI change when you apply a new ROM? I expect not, so I wonder how an LS998 phone can be converted to work on VZ (or VZ-MVNO)? Maybe it can be forced, but if I call in to TW (VZ MVNO) then they may still reject it since they don't know how to force it. Is there some way I can force it to be accepted, even if their software says no?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Sorry, just didn't see the question. For some reason I don't always get notifications about my threads. Give me a few minutes.