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[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] dsjxxxxx:
I got one for $94 from Amazon. $109 - $15 = $94. The $15 credit was given quickly by Amazon via chat support when I raised the issue of no TPU case as advertised (and pictured).

No very happy with it. I am trying to set it up for my wife, who is certainly not a power user (email, facebook, twitter & solitaire mostly). I have experienced the screen being non-responsive to touch input several times. The problem is only coming up when I am trying to navigate in the system options menus. No idea why. The only thing that I have configured is wifi access and enabled developer options (adb). No root. No SIM. No accounts. No apps. Nothing that isn't stock.

Speaking of "no root." This thing is locked down pretty hard. I've become pretty adept rooting Android devices manually via ADB. But "adb root" is disabled - you get a message saying it isn't allowed in production versions. And, BLU has taken away all of the mechanisms that I know of to write to the system partition. Including "adb push" and "adb shell setprop." BLU won't even let you list the contents of most /system directories. Same holds true for FASTBOOT commands via the bootloader (which is of course locked).

I called BLU and asked them to provide instructions to unlock the bootloader. The support person spent 5 minutes "checking," then came back with "no" as the answer. She was unable to explain beyond "we recommend that you don't root your phone." I told her I understand BLU's recommendation, but I want to do it anyway. Still got "no." Actually did it twice on two different days just to be sure. Got the same uniformed "no" both times.

At $94, I am debating whether to give the device a go anyway, Plus, I did a quality job putting the provided screen protector on (no bubbles!). Like I said, my wife doesn't demand a lot from the phone. She just want's a more "modern" one and this fits the bill. The big reasons that I want root access are (1) Cerberus (she "misplaces" the phone sometimes) and (2) the ability to automatically power-clean all of the crap the builds up when she uses the phone. Every time she says she NEEDS a new phone, it takes me about 10 minutes to clear the crap out of her old Galaxy S3 and the complaint goes away for about four months. I actually got one of the kid's retired S4's updated with CM13 and running well. It would address all of her needs - well. But, she is rejecting the phone (incorrectly) because she (correctly) perceives it as being "old." The BLU R1 Plus seems to have similar performance attributues, but the bigger screen and having a "new" phone model have resulted in a big difference in attitude.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I am not sure how many days you have to return the phone, you can call Amazon and find out.

Test phone within that time frame, return it or keep it your choice.

Personal after all the reviews, I wouldn't pay $40 for the phone.

I would choose the original R1HD over this version, just my opinion.

To me a phone without multitouch is completely useless.

Also seeing the phone can't be rooted, Trojans will remain on the phone, and Blu can add more during updates as well as any ads they like, and users can't remove them.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks for your quick response and information.

I just received my new BLU R1-PLUS, but as has happened to others, I didn't received any case nor screen protector inside the product box.

But, the most annoying problem with this cellphone is the multi touch issue that everyone's taking about, making totally unusable the GoogleMaps APP, because the Pinch2zoom function is not working at all!!

But what worries me most is that everyone who has bought this phone, is complaining about this same problem of multi-touch !!

Apparently it is a problem related to the digitizer, so It is not a software issue and an update will not fix it.

I has read that this has happened on some other brands of phones in the past, including Oneplus One and iPhone 6 Plus.

I really hope that since all BLU R1-PLUS are currently affected with this annoying problem, BLU will fix it soon if possible with a software update, so I don't have to return my cellphone back.

This is huge. The original R1 didn't have this problem.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
If it's hardware you will have to send the phone in for repairs.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] rojasimo:
"If it's hardware you will have to send the phone in for repairs."

I am having the same problem using a two-finger zoom gestures in Google maps - erratic behavior, the map tends to zoom out, no matter what. I can use a repeated single-finger tap to zoom in, though.

Curiously enough, when I tried to use the two-finger pinch/zoom in two other apps, Gallery and Chrome, it does work there. Haven't tried any other apps.

That brings up the possibility that this is a software/fixable issue and not a hardware problem. I am not familiar with the android api for touch functions and/or how Google maps may be utilizing it vs Gallery or Chrome.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I don't have phone, so can't say if it's hardware or software.

If the phone could be rooted, then swapping ROM from another device would show if it's hardware or software.

Of course at $160 no dev that I know of including myself would waste that amount of money on this phone.

No matter good luck.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Hello vampirefo, although you have said that you do not have this phone and therefore can not accurately state whether it is a hardware or software problem, I would like to thank you for trying to help us with this Pinch2zoom annoying problem of the New BLU-R1-PLUS!

As rojasimo have already mentioned, I also have noticed that when I have tried to use two fingers to pinch2zoom in Gallery and Chrome, and also with others APPs, it does always work flawlessly!?

So, as rojasimo, I am also starting to believe that this is a software/fixable issue and not a hardware problem, and maybe the Google Maps APP is detecting the touch of the fingers a way different than the Gallery and Chrome APPs...

Thanks again vampirefo for all your help!
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Google Earth, Maps.me and Here Maps - All of them work perfectly on new BLU R1-PLUS!

As BLU R1-PLUS touchscreen problems is manifested with some applications and with others not, without knowing what is causing it, I decided to also try other APPs for maps and all of them worked very well:

- Here WeGo Maps

- Maps.Me

I also curiously have noticed that Google-Earth, although is also developed by Google, also worked flawlessly without any problems or lags, and the multi touch and pinch2zoom worked great.

So, if with all 3 applications mentioned, the sensitivity to the touch was very precise and also the pinch2zoom worked correctly, I still think this is a software/fixable issue, that maybe BLU could correct it with a simple update.

I am aware that BLU is a little slow in launching updates or fixes, but I think that as this phone has just come out and also for the many complaints, that BLU will be forced to quickly correct this annoying problems.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] TVCCS:
I picked one of these up off eBay... Antutu score is 27851.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] DarKaoZ:
Hi, I'm new here.

I have done some small experimentations with the Blu R1 Plus and for my observations, the problem is that ones more than 1 finger makes contact, it will alternate between those 2 contacts.

Example:

If I put 2 fingers at the same time, it will detect both contacts, but it will start alternating after a second or such.

If 1 finger is already there and you add another contact, it will start alternating between them.

2 Finger swipes work as long as both fingers are moving at the same time.

Ones you go more than 2, it randomness at best.

Dunno if this works, but these are my observations.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
Well blu has started upgrading phones to nougat see how long it takes to upgrade this phone.

If the problems are software the upgrade should fix it.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks Vampirefo for letting us know that BLU at last has started upgrading some of their Cellphone models.

Let's hope BLU will not take too long to upgrade the R1-PLUS to Nougat.

Did you know which BLU models are starting to update to Nougat?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
Vivo 5r and Grand X so far.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
DarKaoZ, I have also done some small experimentations with my new BLU R1-PLUS and have found the same problems you mentioned.

I totally agree with you, if more than 1 finger makes contact on the screen at the same time, it will alternate between those 2 contacts, and the inch2zoom only works if you move the 2 fingers at the same time.

However, the most weird and annoying thing is the erratic behavior of the touchscreen, that is manifested with some applications and with others not!

As I mentioned before, Here-WeGo-Maps and Maps.Me, both works very well, but Goggle-Maps don't, So I'm starting to believe that although there is a possibility that these BLU-R1-PLUS phones might have had a hardware problem due to deficiencies or product quality controls, there may also be a software / fix problem, which perhaps BLU could fix with a simple upgrade.

I currently have 3 BLU R1-HD, and I must say that the touchscreen response of the New R1-PLUS is much better, faster and precise to the touch of the fingers than with the original R1-HD...

The touchscreen sensitivity of the R1-PLUS is extremely good, and only the problem is with the multi touch.

May you're​ wondering why if I currently have 3 BLU R1-HD phones, I have bought this new BLU R1-HD??...

Well I must say that apart of the fabulous special introduction price, I decided to get this BLU R1-PLUS, because of the following features that the BLU-R1-HD don't have:

- Beautiful phone Design with machined aircraft grade aluminum battery cover (that although it seems like a thin plastic, is really made of METAL with a thick plastic backing around the edges and center of the back cover).

- A little bit Better camera than original BLU R1-HD, that is not projected outside the back cover, which in the R1-HD did not allow to have the phone in flat position.

- Much bigger speaker and louder sound than original BLU R1-HD

- 5.5" HD display with Curved Gorilla Glass 3 Protection

- 3GB RAM and 32GB Internal Memory

- 4,000mAh Battery

- Gyroscope

- Nougat

- OTG

So if the BLU R1-PLUS had not had this annoying touch screen problem, I really think it would be an excellent phone that could have competing with much more expensive cell phones.

As Vampirefo already mentioned, today BLU at last has started upgrading some of their Cellphone models (Vivo 5r and Grand X), and as he said: if the problems are software the upgrade should fix it.

Let's hope BLU will not take too long to upgrade the R1-PLUS to Nougat, and that they also include a patch that could improve a bit or totally fix the multi touch problem!
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
The new BLU R1-PLUS brings Magnetic Sensor!

I do not know if anyone knows or has noticed, but although I do not find it mentioned anywhere, using the "Factory Mode" (Power + Vol.Down), I found that it seems that this new BLU R1-PLUS brings Magnetic Sensor!

You can also check it with any "Magnetic Sensor Detector" APP, like Sensor Box for Android, and then approaches to a magnetic field (a big Speaker Magnet) with your phone... But you will have to deactivate the GPS of the phone, in order to force The APP to use only the M-Sensor and not GPS or Wifi.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] dlsega:
I bought this one to upgrade from my R1 HD, it should be delivered within the week, the only thing i'm kinda nervous about is rooting. I always root my phones, I saw in some of the posts that the bootloader comes locked, still no way to unlock? I don't see the same enthusiasm about this r1 plus as the r1 hd so I guess that there wont be much attempt to work on this model?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I doubt root will be available anytime soon if ever, a lot of phones don't have root.

Good Luck to you.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] DarKaoZ:
Didnt want to make a new thread, but BLU R1 PLUS got an update.

Dunno if its a new android OS update or just the Multi Touch fix. I'll try to let you guys know.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks DarKaoZ for the information!

I have not yet received this update that you said that BLU has released today for the new BLU R1-PLUS...

I would like to know if you already downloaded it and installed it on your R1-PLUS cellphone, and if finally BLU has corrected the problem of multi touch or if you have noticed something new or improved?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] DarKaoZ:
OK, my phone just rebooted.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be Android Nougat I can confirm that 2 finger multi touch doesn't go crazy when you have 2 fingers on it, meaning that 2 fingers touch is a-OK now. But it seems doing 3 contacts is still not that great. Need to do more testing.

But here is the details of the update:

Thats all the info there was before updating.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks for your quick reply and for letting me know that at least the Multi-Touch seems to be working a little bit better now.

Sorry to hear that is not Android Nougat.

I have noticed that the size of this new update is a little bit large 325.52 MB, so it does not seem to be just to fix the Multi-Touch issues or Security patches.

Since BLU has not given many details about this new update, I would be very grateful if you could report if you find anything new or improved.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] besthead:
The update seems to have fixed the multi-touch issues for me. Zooming in Google Maps and Photos is working fine. I tested two multi touch tester apps. One showed up to 5 touches perfectly with no stuttering. The other showed two, but I think that may be a limitation of the app.

Also, the update updated the Android kernel and the security updates to March, 2017.

I'm not sure what else changed. But the install took quite a while, because it somehow went through literally all of my apps one by one.

So, I guess those who swore that this could never be fixed with software were wrong. I'm glad because I was just about to send this back, but really didn't want to. I doubt we're going to find a phone with these specs in the initial sale price range for a while.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] besthead:
Also, the update seems to have fixed the battery calibration issues. Now it doesn't drop as fast as it seemed to before.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] Mae7:
Looks nice, but since the support for the Blu R1 HD original sucks, I don't think I'll continue purchasing these models.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
That's good, the phone is now useable for those that bought it.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] chozendroid:
So I'll also confirm the multi touch issues are now mostly resolved. Twas the one thing I sorta felt bad about after buying this phone for my wife but with this update, I now feel completely at ease. Pity this device won't have much support from the molding community. The device itself is really nice the battery life is ridiculous to say the least.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] the_emporium:
When you say "battery life is ridiculous to say the least", do you mean ridiculously good, or ridiculously bad ?

Thanks
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] DarKaoZ:
Ridiculously good.

In my experience, it last 1 day and 1/2 in constant use. (Mileage may vary lol)
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
You all will have to do the development, which if bootloader can't be unlocked, there won't be any.

It's unlikely any developer will pay $160 for this phone.

If it has Sony camera parts, like original R1HD, there wouldn't be much development anyway if bootloader unlocks or not.

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That's sounds good, my max gets about 18hrs, R1HD Plus battery is a bit larger than my battery.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] the_emporium:
OK cool... That's what I expected, but was just curious. I picked one up for the wife yesterday (amazon canada had the 3GB/32GB version, on intro/lightning deal sale of CDN$139 - so it was hard to pass up). Specs are pretty much identical to my Acer Zest Plus (Z628), except the acer has a slightly bigger battery, yet this one has a bit more memory and double default storagae.. Battery on these phones is awesome.. At the end of day, I am often still above 60% remaining after a full day, of constant emails (office exchange server), browsing, texting, a bit of talking, etc..

cheers..
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] chozendroid:
Ridiculously good [emoji3]
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] inc188:
So seems to be no root for this device?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I said that from the beginning, the way Blu went out of their way to disable splashtool in the original R1HD showed their intent with this line of phones.

To make them unrootable ad phones. The R1HD line are an ad line. Blu makes better rootable phones than the R1HD line.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonmerc:
A couple of us were talking in the General thread about a potential alternative to SPFT and Miracle Box that someone should try with the R1 Plus. It's called CSTool, and while it is a completely different program altogether its function looks similar enough to SPFT where we might be able to flash TWRP and obtain root.

Anyone with an R1 Plus willing to check it out, please let me know how it goes. Feel free to contact me if you need assistance with anything (I have no experience with CSTool myself, but I'll still try to help in any way I can): https://t.me/joinchat/EHEiEg5s-llVux0VuDsKMA
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
My guess that might be a horrible mistake, the tool needs to be tested on R1HD, cause we know that phone can be fixed, no one knows anything about plus, most likely it's a suicide mission.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonmerc:
I don't have a windows machine so unfortunately I can't test it on the HD myself (WINE doesnt like to play nice with USB stuff on Linux) but if anyone else wants to chip in I'd greatly appreciate it.

As for the Plus, this looks like it's the only hope we have since SPFT and Miracle Box are blocked out of the box like it was with the HD now. Our options for that seem to be take a chance with this or have nothing. It will no doubt be risky, even if it does happen to work on the HD, but I don't know any other options for the time being
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I doubt anyone owning a R1HD Plus has any dev experience and will most likely end up bricking their device, I have never heard of this tool myself, so I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless I first tested, have you tested it on anything?

Where is the download link for this app?

I again recommend it being tested on a known device, that can be recovered, there is no know recovery for Plus.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonmerc:
Here's the download link I found from GSMForum, looks like there's multiple files involved in the install process:

REMOVED
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
well there is deffinatly a problem if we link to a software to try. It is actually a hardware dongle you supposed to buy in order to use the software (a product key donggle) searching for tutorial of the tool on you tube gets many-many videos showing "WARaze"
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
I am a little lost, if we can't link to it how can we recommend it?

Have you tested this app? I never heard of it, seeing it's so many parts, I can't image many people even being able to install it let alone use it.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonmerc:
Well dang, wasn't aware we needed additional hardware from what I read. Also wasn't aware this was warez, will take down link from my post

I have one more option we can try although its a bit of a stretch since its made by the same people that made SPFT. It's called MDT, where it looks like it just auto-writes everything specified in the supplied scatter file (didn't get a very good description from the website I found it on so I just had to look at the pictures). Useful for full restores for something like an R1 HD downgrade, or perhaps flashing TWRP to a device by only specifying the recovery partition in the scatter file

EDIT: http://spmdttool.com/sp-mdt-v5-1432-00
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonmerc:
You're a brave man. Let me know how it all goes. Looks like you have to get additional drivers as well, not sure if they conflict with whatever current drivers you may have
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
NO I have not.

Looks similar to preloader flashing tool though.

this is page from distibutor.

https://gsmserver.com/item/boxes-and-dongles/cs-tool-dongle/
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
So it cost $65 for the dongle, and the downloads only work on the $65 dongle?

Or is the $65 dongle not needed, only recommended?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
the downloads linked from the you tube videos I have seen "by-pass" the need for the dongle. ;)

Kind-of like the miricle-box software ,
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
Well this didn't work on my windows 10 64 bit, so will try on another windows computer soon.

I have found other stuff not working on this 64 bit, so doesn't mean this app doesn't work.

I have a Windows 10 tablet, that I will test on in a few days.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
Dumb question time.

Did you instaal the 64 bit driver.\?
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirefo:
Yes, and it pretends it connects to phone, like making backups and flashing but in reality it does nothing.

So need to test on another windows computer.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] Jô$èph D:
I have tried to unlock the bootloader on the r1 plus I received an error and was unable to complete the process
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] yaconsult:
All current Amazon Blu phones have been modified to disable to use of SP Flash Tools which we were previously able to use to enable unlocking of the bootloader. The other exploit known as "dirty cow" has also been patched and no longer works. So Blu phones are currently a no-go for those who want to root and flash them.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
not entirely true. At least not all of them.

since the R1HD

I had the R1 pluss-- it was loked down --so your statement is true here

then BluLife-Max-- it was compatible with sp flash tools and didnt even need sp flash because bootloader unlock was enabled

then(now) Blu Studio XL 2-- this one is also sp flash compatible and bootloader unlock supported.

Also kernel source for these easily available. It took blu 6 months or so from release of Blu R1-HD before source ws released.

So it seems inconsistant on which phones are developer friendly or not.
[BLU R1 HD Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmazak:
Just got a comment on Google plus that there is a recovery and method to install with sp flash. Have not been able to try as I sent mine back.

woops ..link to instructions

https://www.mediafire.com/download/3ju41aeh1pkx3qy

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Just got a comment on Google plus that there is a recovery and method to install with sp flash. Have not been able to try as I sent mine back.

woops ..link to instructions

https://www.mediafire.com/download/3ju41aeh1pkx3qy

Now more looking to find the TWRP that supposed to work