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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] djhotsauce:
this is all i was getting when i scan those bard code and put in my cards.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
Still costs money on both of PrinceCosmy's sites that's where I looked first
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yea.. but u paid 15$ for one?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
Yeah haha the latest update lol

Was pointless but someone had to find out
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
took one for the team yet again.. im hopin bounty thread will get more devs interested
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
Sometimes you have to pull the trigger yourself instead of waiting for someone else to do it. We know where we are know and what we need to overcome lol :) as for devs i agree completely because this is my first time trying to exploit root myself i have knowledge of it but the more people with greater knowledge the better!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
Should I just plan on getting the SD variant? I been with the Sammy chipset in my last 8 phones. I love root for the dual speaker volume mod and debloat. Any help would be great. Got an order in at clove but if I should cancel and go with a US version for convieance I will :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Dont waste your money on the snapdragon...go Exynos.

While the snap will struggle to get even root there will never be twrp, roms, kernels etc and the way the snap will get rooted you will be stuck on the same firmware forever.

Exynos already has everything above and you wont be stuck on the same firmware.

While I admire and applaud the work everyone is doing to get the snap rooted ( this is why xda was created in the first place afterall) i dont know why waste such time and effort when you can just get the Exynos?

Its a better experience anyway..smoother and better battery life and I say say that from firsthand experience with both versions on the note 7.

Snapdragon not worth it IMO which is why i ditched mine already and waiting for my exynos model.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Duck Quan:
Well you can speak for yourself. I am still a student in highschool (a junior) that is trying to learn all this. I've been into rooting since the days of the HTC Evo 4g, but never really understood it. Being in this thread especially is helping me understand how all of this works and I greatly appreciate the effort from all the poeple that decided to work on it. And as for buying an exynos model, I can only speak for myself, but being a high school student doesn't allow enough money to buy and exynos model
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
Simply because I'm on Verizon and can't afford to just buy a Exynos outright to carry around. We strive to make our US modeled daily driver that we are getting discounted or making smaller payments on, rooted and unlocked.

I see how Exynos is better, but like me, I can't use it on Verizon. We're also not all made of money, so can't afford to carry 2 phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yeah i feel for you guys on the CDMA networks...not much option there unfortunately.

I have always bought my devices outright so no diff in cost for me either way ..sometimes the exynos is cheaper which makes no sense lol

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
So did we determine that the $45 firmware is the factory one that we already have? If not do they accept bitcoin? I'll buy it if they do.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
My battery life is crazy good and it's smooth af. Not sure what you're talking about.

Been off a charge for 8 hours with moderate and heavy use. Running audible app for 3 of those hours. Plus using reddit and XDA. Also my Bluetooth is constantly on for Android Wear, plus connected to my car stereo for an hour or two. I'm at 75%. This phone is smooth. It has its stuttering moments, but that is inherent to Android. Marginally better benchmarks don't mean **** to real usage. The phone battery has to learn your behavior and then it optimization kicks in. It takes days of use before this happens. Best battery life and smoothest experience I've ever had in a mobile device.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heavenly_Abyss2016:
Well, color me skeptical about this. Let's see if root happens with this supposed method.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
because he sent me the files on the agreement i do not share.. i keep my word
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
So what is your word then on the concurrent files you have?

That honestly doesn't make sense IMHO that you guys are going to bogart pertinent files that could make it easier for all of us working on the project

Also,

Update: installed required drivers for edl mode, and even though I knew it wouldn't work, attempted to get the device recognized by the drivers from download. Absolutely no success there. Recognized as a modem and USB controller, but thats it.

Working on the edl method after this post, will report back soon
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it makes perfect sense.. he sent me eng roit files that i cant even flash because i have an user device.. i am currently attempting something that if successful we will be in a good place..

Again, i did not find the files and in irder for even me to take a crack at it i agreed not to share per his request.. now you want me to go behind his back and do the opposite so he doesnt provide any more files at all in the future as well as tarnish my reputation as not being trustworthy?

Work is being done and we are spending countless hours to root these phones so i apologize if he is not giving you the files, i have no control over that.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
How about you and him converse about the benefits of having more than 2 minds working on it?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
there is at least 4 other devs in the chat and we have brought the "more minds are better than 1" to the table but not happening as of now lol i dont kno why, i didnt find the files.. ppl just need to be patient.. progress is being made if even slow moving..

i personally wouldnt release files either until ive tested and tested again.. dont want files getting out and ppl breaking their phones then complaining etc.

point is, i am sure he has his reasons and calling him names isnt helping one bit lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
OK, well I just finished my edl cable. And if I can get into edl, that file would be able to be flashed. So it would be phenomenally helpful. Like idk who this Chen guy is at all given he's got barely any posts under his belt, has been completely unhelpful in this thread, only popping up like 3 times to spill bs. Completely different story than if he was a recognized contributor, or even a senior with some thanks /input. But he's not. And it's just getting frustrating

It's not perfect, but it does what it's suppose to. Shuts off the data + connection between computer and phone temporarily
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
Have you tried flashing anything?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
Not yet. Having trouble making the qualcomm qdloader drivers work. The cable works, but the phone is only showing as unknown usb device(device descriptor request failed)

Assuming the driver "installer" i used earlier didnt install new enough drivers because i'm pretty sure they were from late 2015/early 2016. And trying to find a website to get just the drivers from so i can force driver update is sadly a challenge
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
hes not full of bs tho lol i can confirm he has said files.. it can be frustrating i know but ultimately its how the cookie typically crumbles.. theres many top devs who dont release anything until its ready and sometimes not at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
its an eng file.... its not something that requires getting ready. Idk. Ill keep you guys posted on my end. my stupid self had windows updates set up all wrong. forgot this isnt my original dev machine. installing updates that should fix the drivers and going from there.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it does need to be ready because YOU CANNOT FLASH IT lol.. it will fail in ODIN so its not ready to be released.. first needs to be a way to even get it to flash...

if released ppl will go crazy saying it doesnt work because it wont as of right now.. heck ppl even still ask if cf auto root works...

i am sure when theres something worth releasing he will create a thread and provide the files necessary but eng root img alone will help nothing as of now
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
I'm not saying release it to the masses. I'm saying release it to other devs that can go about other ways. Again, if i am able to get into edl, which I'll know in like an hour, because my computer is downloading a friggin insider preview and I have **** Internet, but it would be nice to have an eng file to flash from edl as opposed to having to make my own
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cameron581:
I believe that [MENTION=6316811]Acoustichayes[/MENTION] is definitely onto something, the axon 7 achieved not only root but twrp and boot loader unlock via this method, but we would first need a working twrp from the kernel source Sammy released
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
So here is this guy. [youtube]TGBkS3lbDDY[/youtube]

The title of the vid has to do with edl+Qualcomm+Samsung. I don't know what language he is sspeaking. I don't recognize the Samsung device he is using.

I would very much like to know what he is saying. If anyone can help?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
The last 30 minutes of my life have been playing with this edl cable to test things and more research on specifics for devices that don't have fastboot . Waiting for the last 1 percent of my windows update. So my qdloader drivers start working.

I mean he said device manager in English... ???????
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cameron581:
Definitely check out the axon 7 they actually flash a bootloader once they edl into twrp that is unlocked XD but you would probably have to reach out to some of the devs that brought it to the axon
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
I honestly think that if twrp devs were contacted, they would add official support for the s8 with how big of a phone it is. Well, pending a straight forward method was presented that didn't involve everyone that wanted to root to have to pay for a cable. But they are super simple to make tbh
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
"DIY Root Cable" or "Pay like 12 bucks for root cable"

Both titles are offish but aye, technically it includes bootloader unlock so they can deal with it lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
I have a question regarding the progress with EDL mode.

Even if someone is somehow successful in flashing the eng boot or a custom recovery, it would still require an unlocked bootloader to actually boot anything custom.

The most I see achievable is SYSTEM root along with an eng boot.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
The initial thought was to flash the signed eng boot that Chen and wigy have, if they give it up.

What I believe, is that Samsung, in order to debug a warranty phone that someone sent back, uses edl to flash the debug file, which either unlocks the bootloader, or changes it to an eng bootloader, so they can flash the eng/debug boot onto it in order to debug it.

That's all just an educated guess though based on all our findings and research over the last few weeks.

But otherwise you can always unlock the bootloader from edl as well. Just a longer process.

Update on my progress: my computer couldn't complete the update, as apparently it's been failing for weeks. Had to clear out the updates setting, and restart from my slow connection. Will have to do the full trial in the morning. But I found a link to actual Samsung edl and how to IN ENGLISH... It was a Google Doc. Funny story.

Clicked on it and this is what showed up...

How ironic haha
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
lol... i clicked that document weeks ago... i havent seen or heard anyone even being successful at booting into edl mode outside of those that have the samsung debug emergency download firmware... and no i do not have it myself
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] b3@n:
Seriously? You're jumping on the latest bandwagon that others have discovered first, even though by this time you swore the bootloader encryption would already be bruteforced by your rig?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Learn to read and actually process sentences through your brain lol

Why is this guy still here? Who are you? I'm gonna call you Debbie from now on.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
Bud your rediculous
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
-Junior Member

-Hasn't put in any helpful input himself

-Judges others when they join a "bandwagon" even though it's just putting more minds to a more plausible idea. (and actually following through with working on it and sharing info)

Logic>you
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
It's not even a bandwagon. I'm the one that suggested edl mode in the first place lol. Debbie is just looking for reasons to talk since I called him out before
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] denson9874:
Debbie? That’s hilarious
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Quickvic30:
Been keeping a close eye on this thread, ordered a edl cable, should be here tomorrow. I'm willing to help out on this also if you guys need anything. I have a little dev experience. I didn't write the script for the S7 edge root.bat but I did modify it to run like stock on the S7 edge and people have loved it so just my 2 cents. I also have experience with the octoplus box but I sold that as I didn't have time with a new kid and all. Have some left over cables from it and was wondering if they would be any use to us. Also has anyone used the *#0808# code to put the phone in different usb modes? I tried all the modes in there with the uart cable in the serial port on the computer but the computer wouldn't recognize the device.....also tried the Optimus cable on all settings and it would act as a standard usb cable in the 910k mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
You need to make sure the Qualcomm qdloader drivers are installed on your computer for it to be recognized on a serial port. Confusing process. Sometimes you even have to uninstall the manufacturer drivers to get it to recognize.

However, your help would be greatly appreciated as after all my updates installed and finalized, went to reboot and my computer won't boot into the OS. So it's going to take me a while to try to fix that without having to wipe it.

Also, for your cable, those are resistance values correct? Can you give me details on that cable so I can make a few with the specs?

I remember reading a thread a while back about how for Samsung since 2012 I believe that getting into edl required a certain resistance on one of the wires to the charge port and not just a regular edl cable. Can't remember anything else
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
I might be able to help you get your comp booting again - shoot me a PM with info for how to get a hold of you.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
The computer is a driver error. I already know that. But I can't boot into safe mode, driver signature check disabled mode, etc. In the process of no power and cmos battery removed for 30 mins as this fixed it last time. Perks of running with your system modified. Windows 10 big updates break everything lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
Would this EDL cable work? https://www.amazon.com/GPG-EDL-Cable-2-in-1/dp/B06XXCLMGM
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
I ordered an official EDL cable. It'll be coming soon with the z3x box I also ordered.

You should buy that though to see if you can figure anything out yourself. More minds, more power. :highfive:

Cheers mate!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
Where did you order your Z3X box from. I found one for $175 and that's too much for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
Ebay my dude. But they are all over 150 after Samsung activation. Then they add uart cables and other stuff and it ends up around 170 after all. So that's about your only choice.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Quickvic30:
That's messed up, my computer did that same thing yesterday and I still can't get it to boot, I even tried usb boot with a special recovery program on it and still no dice.....

If you Google Rextor Optimus cable the product and specs will come up. You can also plug 5v into the side of this cable/resistor box also. Tried just about everything but like you said the qdloader drivers probably weren't installed correctly. Using a back up computer now with only a few files to work with FTL
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
Just made an EDL cable to start messing with it - has anyone successfully gotten into EDL mode? Anyone know if EDL mode displays anything on the screen? Has anyone tried the xiaomi approach where you short the 2 wires while plugging into the USB port for a few seconds? Can I get an invite into the hangouts group please?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maltego:
From what I have seen EDL mode is a black screen with a blinking (often red) light. Not sure how it is for this
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
To build on [MENTION=5860406]Maltego[/MENTION]

You should have device manager open when trying to get into EDL mode. As you have to refresh the manager after trying to see if your device shows up under com ports. If you do not have the Qualcomm qdloader drivers installed, it will appear under other devices as something similar to qshusb(refer to pic below)

Once you install the drivers, or if you have them installed, it should show up similar to the other pic below

Also, we are not in a hangouts group
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
Seems they got the infinity box working with the snapdragon 835 yesterday. Here's the link I found concerning this. Not sure if this is relevant to us or not but I figured I would share it.

Meanwhile I've been trying to get this thing in to EDL mode with no luck so far. I've tried a bunch of combinations of shorting the 2 wires while having the phone powered off and plugging in my homebrew EDL cable. I'll keep trying things though, hopefully we are on to something here :D

EDIT: It seems I have gotten it to go into EDL mode. Not sure if this has already been accomplished by others or not, but at least I made some personal progress! Now to tinker some more :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
to my knowledge you want to be in qualcomm 9008 mode.. but outaide of the trickery, if gsm releases the DEBUG_EMERGENCY_DOWNLOAD firmware seems like u couldboot into edlusing usb..

i have not seen someone successful on a stock user device.. edl cable coming next week for me but dont think its feasible on stock.. have you tried while on thecombo firm?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
Elliwigy check my edit above, I think I've got EDL mode working on my device. Any idea what app I can try to use to flash stuff? I've downloaded a few things but haven't got anything to work yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it wont recognize it in odin?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
Nope, ID:COM box remains empty.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
hmm.. all edl modes ive seen work with flashing through odin.. those that have z3x try using the samsung flash tool?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cameron581:
Check MiFlasher they are widely used along with OnePlus bit again exercise caution because of partitions Nd you know being sammy device
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
Yeah I downloaded MiFlash but I'm a bit apprehensive to flash anything due to partition differences. It looks kinda janky too lol. It does, however, recognize my device while in EDL mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
is there an official qualcomm flasher?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BotsOne:
It seems there is! It's called qpst, I'm doing some research on it now. Here is a link with some interesting info
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Acoustichayes:
First, nice job getting into EDL. I finally got my computer fixed at 3am and just went to bed

I would recommend downloading z3x software. It has support for the 950u so you won't have to worry about flashing something in the firmware slot that is actually the bootloader. I was going to put up pics of the known partition tables for sm* devices, but remembering the z3x software makes life easier lol.

Idk if there is a trial of the software honestly. Didn't look that hard. Hopefully there is as I can't condone Warez. BUT, you would need a proper eng boot file that had write access to go any further at this point. Or wait till one of us modifies current firmware to get to you

I wonder if anyone has one of those files..

Cough [MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] cough haha
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
good ole qpst lol.. once upon atime i had an lg optimus g brand new onSprint and i used qpst to flash a verizon corporate prl just so theyd kick me off without an etf lol

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lol.. been down this road.. i wish i could share but hsm chen would never trust me again nor would the xda community.. i need to get an edl cable.. is there any easy guides on making one?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
so yea, if anyone wants to help, i know there are some making special cables, then find a way to boot into edl/9008 mode without a special cable lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
what software do I use to check if I have gotten into EDL/9008 mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] wtf911:
i'm sure i don't speak for everyone but i would happily buy even a $10-15 cable if it meant the ability to have twrp/root
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it should show in device manager as qualcomm usb 9008 or somthing lol im tryin right now

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lol u willin to donate for me to get an edl cable? i am not sure about shipping cost but theyre about 10$ on amazon

but i am trying over standard usb so hold your horses haha.. i also might just try to make one to avoid waiting

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** i am not asking for u to buy me a cable, was joking lol, mods i am not asking for any money or donations, was just a joke lol

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fyi as others stated its a number of steps to attempt even edl lol.. i already have updated .net framework and disc. my internet from laptop but whats taking long is uninstalling all my mobile drivers before i install qualcomm
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Quickvic30:
The cable I ordered should be here today, does anyone have a download for the Qualcomm qdloader software and driver's?