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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Black-Rose:
I agree! It would be nice to have only the cab files.

For example took them in a ROM. In the last update do I only replace the d3dm_ati.dll or does the device need the other *.dll too? I'm talking about cooking btw.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
New releases

http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20081009_1

Covering Kaiser, Polaris and Nike

Also, true TF3D on it's way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
You never stop don't you ? Good job !:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Blooper deleted
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
Not sure about what to say ? Even don't know if I really understood correctly what you meant...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
Kaiser CAB Oct 2nd - Oct 9th comparison

Yet again I am flabbergasted at the improvement squeeze we are seeing with these drivers. Below are the significant GL Benchmark improvements between the 2 driver versions (Oct 2nd values in brackets):

CPU Performance: Integer :	5861 (5778)

GLBenchmark HD ES 1.0 :	1507 (1422) Frames

Lights: Ambient x 1 :	109311 (108289) Triangles/s

Lights: Omni x 1 :	43928 (42907) Triangles/s

Lights: Parallel x 1 :	111354 (110332) Triangles/s

Lights: Parallel x 2 :	3232342 (2509049) Triangles/s

Lights: Parallel x 4 :	3232342 (2498833) Triangles/s

Lights: Parallel x 8 :	3205780 (2469207) Triangles/s

Swapbuffer speed :	3313 (2330)

Texture Filter: LINEAR :	3294660 (2534589) Triangles/s

Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR :	3301811 (2509049) Triangles/s

Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST :	3305897 (2534589) Triangles/s

Texture Filter: NEAREST :	3281379 (2524373) Triangles/s

Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR :	3302832 (2511092) Triangles/s

Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST :	3261968 (2517222) Triangles/s

Texture Size: 1024x1024 :	3324286 (2545827) Triangles/s

Texture Size: 128x128 :	3275249 (2515179) Triangles/s

Texture Size: 256x256 :	3290573 (2537654) Triangles/s

Texture Size: 512x512 :	3330416 (2541740) Triangles/s

Texture Size: 64x64 :	3293638 (2526416) Triangles/s

Triangles: Flat Shaded + Color :	3380474 (2571367) Triangles/s

Triangles: Smooth Shaded + Color :	3364128 (2540719) Triangles/s

Triangles: Textured :	3289552 (2498833) Triangles/s

Triangles: Textured + Color :	3304876 (2489639) Triangles/s

As you can see there is nearly a 25% improvement in the majority of the selected categories and a 30% improvement in the swapbuffer speed. If you go back to the July 29th drivers, they are 6 times faster, which is amazing if you think about it.

Rob
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andrew-in-woking:
Text in landscape issue

Hi all,

I have just installed the 9th Oct version on top of the SJ Samsung Omnia D3D driver in the HD III OPAL ROM from 30th September. It works great and I have cleartype in landscape which is a bonus. I have some text missing from some menus but this is not so bad that I would want to revert to the other driver.

Thanks for continuing the great work. I really feel like my Kaiser is finally beginning to fulfil it's potential. I'm looking forward to M3D and the future development of the drivers.

Best wishes,

andrew-in-woking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2758694&postcount=240
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
Hehe niceeeeeeee ;)

Why beeing so discrete ? :rolleyes:

Anyway, let the madness begin !

Congrats for your awesome (team) job !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Thanks... it was such a quicky post because I was late for being somewhere else :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mmone3:
I just tried quake 3 arena in accelerated 3D mode with these drivers and it work pretty good (getting 5-10fps). see diamand thread below. Just reboot before you run it and delete the libgles_cm.dll file in the quake 3 dir.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=433595
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mmone3:
Also COD2 works good too.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=428703
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JC_Carrillo:
Well, I'm shipping HyperdragonIIIPro, and the games freezes loading map (any), then reboots itself :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
I had GLBenchmark freezing during the testing when I had HardSPL 3.56. Try using the 3.29 edition as that fixed it for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mmone3:
Im running hyperdragon III with the oct 9th 3d drivers and have about 42M ram free. I dont know if installing manila 3d makes a differance but I installed it before trying any of the Q3 or COD2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mata_mosca:
So I tried Guitar Hero mobile and for the first time the character model appears in full 3d and running smooth.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abusalza:
hi...

just a suggestion if we can make kaiser support cleartype in landscape with these awesome driver:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galmok:
How do I quit the D3D demo short of resetting the phone using the hardware reset button? (TYTN II here)

All I managed to do what bring other applications in front of D3D demo but D3D demo continued to show the graphics in front of everything else, making the screen next to useless. And during my attempts, I usually end up having for hard-reset the phone... :-(

The problem is that the D3D demo app doesn't have a close button...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abusalza:
just tick on the same place at the "x" or "ok" button. and D3D demo will close itself
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vasquez123:
Video Drivers WORK!

i am a total noob when it comes to these drivers.

i have an HTC Kaiser Att tilt

ROM version 3.57.502.2wwe which i got from the htc site

i installed the latest htc kaiser drives from class action site and when i ran the d3d i was gettin a mere 2 to 3 fps then i ran the lights d3d demo and all the values came out false. anywho to get to the point i installed the polaris drivers afterwards and the fps were through the roof! i dont know how many fps but the little cube was spinning fast and smooth also on the lights d3d the hardware rasterization values were true, hardware t&L true and the last screen said "using video memory" the little cylinder animation was so smooth. i dont know what the text d3d is supposed to do but it appeared like a bunch of little blocks. the triangle demo was like at 252 fps. can someone tell me if this is good news or am i just excited over nothing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galmok:
There is no "x" nor any "ok" as I would have expected there to be. Clicking in that spot does nothing at all. I guess I'll always have to hard-reset after having started that demo. :-/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hambola:
You mean soft reset. Please don't tell me you hard reset your device everytime you run the demos. I know what you mean though, that application stays running on top of everything else. I am able to kill it using the task manager, but that's only because i am able to push all the buttons to kill the task just by knowing where those buttons are.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galmok:
I may be confused about the meaning of hard-reset and soft-reset. Hard-reset in the computerworld used to mean hitting the hardware switch to reset the device. Soft-reset means a more controlled reset, either by ctrl-alt-del (windows98) or reboot initiated by software.

Not having seen the definitions of hard/soft-reset on this site, I naturally assumed it meant the same, i.e. when I hard-reset, I use the stylus to click the hardware reset button on the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] roos_t:
what do you mean "not having seen the definitions of hard/soft-reset on this site"? ... what is this then?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Spartamal:
So, with 250 pages, what do I do?

I have a full updated (WM6.1) AT&T Tilt.

Which, if any, of these drivers will work for me? I'm a bit confused. I recognize that most of these reference the Kaiser or the TYTN II, but I know that AT&T's version has some local issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mengelaus:
Hello to everyone.I know this is a noob question but i'm not into this business and i don't know anything about what you re doing here. Will this 3d drivers improve the quality of tytn II camera?.Because it says it's a 3mp camera but i had phones with 1.2mp camera wich made a lot better pictures and recording.Thank you for your pacience and please don't laugh, i told you i'm a newbie.With respect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gabriel31337:
It's enough to remove the phone's back cover (the one that covers the battery) while taking picture/video. You will notice dramatic increase on quality of pic/vid. Give it a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mengelaus:
Thank you, that's a good idea, i didn't think at that.But i was referring at the "waves" the image does when you are in video mode for example.And i've heard that should be some drivers who would increase the quality of the camera, drivers that htc didn;t provide yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgaviota:
You are probably having issues with low light, the camera tries to compensate for that and ruins the frame rate. One thing you can do in a low light situation is: when in camera mode press the power button to put the phone in sleep mode. Cover the lens with your hand and press the power button again. This way the camera stops compensating for the low light and you have your fps back, but the pictures and video are somewhat darker.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mengelaus:
Haha, that's a really interesting thing.Thank you for your help.I will try to do that in full light to see how it handles.With respect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galmok:
I still hadn't seen it. I didn't say it wasn't there. But that was not my point. The point is that the close button on the D3D demo isn't present and closing that demo requires a reset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gabriel31337:
True true... I rather not run it again (deleted) to avoid problems :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyraxiate:
No offense but had you read the remarks on this topic you would have already known this was an issue before hand. Some roms you still are able to close by clicking where the X should be. Also, Read the wiki before posting... proper etiquette goes a long way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lowf:
Sorry for this question, but i found no information about it:

Are the Drivers working with the Kaiser original T-Mobile WM6.0 ROM?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] header2k:
They work only on wm6.1.

Don't work with t-mobile 6.0 Rom - I tested it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Been there for a very long time. Get your game up. http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080718_1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Black-Rose:
When I want to cook in the driver, do I only need replace htc_d3dm.dll for d3dm_ati.dll? Or the other *.dll files in the HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab too?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SharpieMarker:
Driver questions

Has any made any progress with the graphics driver stuff? I quickly read the news at htc class action and went back a couple weeks of posts to see if I could find anything before posting.

The stuff at htc class actions says Kaiser/Tytn II. I recall reading there something about it excluding tilts so I was wondering if the drivers they were referring to were applicable to the tilt as well. I'm still rocking a rom I flashed when 6.1 first came out so if anyone has any suggestions as to a faster video solution that would be sweet. Thanks again all.

Sincerely,

Sharpie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
wait...do you have a 6.1 rom for your tilt? If so, then chances are the graphics drivers should work for it.

Because I have a tilt right now, and my rom information is in my signature...and of course, the graphics drivers work for mine. It makes sense -- the tilt is basically the same as the Tytn II/Kaiser but for some negligible differences (different keyboard, front camera, etc.,)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NarSan:
some progress? When we can expect an update?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SharpieMarker:
What sort of improvements can I expect to see? I haven't seen any information on the difference. I just checked and I am using a 6.1 rom, probably one of dutty's if I remember correctly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SharpieMarker:
Also, I installed the drivers on my tilt running dutty's 6.1 build 19700 and the d3d test application that came with the drivers chokes and never opens. I'll have to assume that it means that the rom I'm using isn't compatible with the drivers. Are there any pre-cooked roms that come with the drivers implemented that anyone would suggest? Thanks all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
It's been said many times before and heavily emphasized on the HTC-CA site which you obviously didn't read, you installed an alpha WM 6.1 rom. Upgrade to a real 6.1 ROM such as Dutty's Diamond V1, or the official AT&T/HTC 6.1 rom and derivatives.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Hisshadiness:
The latest drivers work with stock AT&T Tilt 6.1 Rom

I can confirm that the latest drivers work with the stock att 6.1 rom. i havent tested any games yet, but the included test apps work the same as others havee xperienced. GLBenchmark works. ThouchFLO 3d works well with the same minor issues that others experience. So far performance has been greater than I expected
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TraderJack:
Does anyone have any reproducable tests that show the updated video drivers released for the Kaiser actually do anything?

When I install these drivers onto the stock AT&T or HTC 6.1 ROMs I see no tangible difference in performance. Sure, I can run the neat little demo of the triangle that it comes with...and it runs nice and smooth. But, I don't see any increased performance within any applications. I also don't see any significant benchmark changes.

Can anyone share their experiences and provide any concrete test that shows a performance increase when using the drivers? Maybe a specific application that I can install and use both with and without the driver to show me that it is improved?

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dpwFalken:
Try this. Its still in development, the controls need a little more work but it should show you a speed difference. Its D3DMobile based and wont work with Omnia 3D driver yet.

If you do install this its worth steering clear of the following Options: Graphics quality, resolution and Run full screen. If you alter these you will either need to reinstall the CAB or do a soft reset. Also, dont try and suspend the phone as this will require a reset using the sylus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Hisshadiness:
I don't have a video camera so I can't post any videos. Sorry :-(

I was able to get Call of Duty 2 to work in hardware mode using the instructions from the Diamond thread. By setting it to "low quality" mode in the config I was able to get surprisingly decent framerates. I can tell you that it's faster than software and has much better image quality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] promomail:
Cool Off Or Get An Iphone

Lawsuits are EXACTLY what this country needs...Don't you think we are already over our heads with issues? HTC makes great phones and is a very progressive company with maybe a lagging customer service department...

HTC did react as mentionned on THE WEBSITE but this could have been handled without mentionning class action...Anyway good luck or get yourself a g1!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] violentz313:
Will anyone ever work on getting these drivers ported to the vogue?? or is it impossible
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyraxiate:
Its been over a month. I'm just curious if this project has been dropped because so many people are swapping to the fuze....... I surely hope not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Shinare:
I think the cooks were a little too good at their work in getting the kaiser to function better than stock. I don't think there's much interest anymore at getting D3D to work after all the speedy Manila2D ROMs came out. That and I'm pretty sure that, like you said, all the brains working on the project have moved on to better platforms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Most people involved are still here, but also working on other stuff. We do have lives you know :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cbass:
Rut roh. Website isn't loading for me. Does this mean bad things (like, we no longer have a website that is a simple check in the evening after work and before dinner for updates) or maybe good things (like, fully functional drivers being released soon, with free hundred dollar bills and strippers for everybody)? Or maybe the internet hiccuped and I am paranoid and hopeful...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Half of the datacenter the site is hosted on is down... http://noc.leaseweb.com/status.php?i=264

This usually doesn't take (this) long to fix, try again in an hour or so :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cbass:
I have it set as the homepage in firefox so when I open it, I immediately see if there's been an update. :( Nothing in a while, but I have faith you geniuses are going to come through.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xfox:
i need drivers if i would hang on to my TyTN II (very hard to give up, but t-omnia is v.tempting )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] slovoflud:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=456905&page=18
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
Hmm interesting, I'm going to update some of the ROM guys.

Rob
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drutort:
dang it mid of dec and no talk here at all :/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DracoLX:
Good things come to those who wait :)

Draco
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] borov5:
Does this fixx....

will these drivers fix the laggy video/camera problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tonywalker:
I had hope that goes in the christmas! :rolleyes: Anyway, good job guys! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Brosper:
Hi

I'm from Poland and my English is bad.

You can get graphic driver from HTC Daimond and Samsung Omnia that whay you can't get this from HTC Touch.

I think this is the same device. On this wideo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yv2zVRW7Y0 I saw the HTC Touch driver work wery well on HTC Touch device that this can work the same on HTC Kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FlorentG:
The laggy camera has nothing to do with drivers, it's more a hardware and camera software problem. The sensor is not enough sensitive, so when in dark conditions the software increases the shutter speed automatically, but it increases it way too much.

What we need is a manual mode where you can select the shutter speed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
What's Microsoft doing about it?

There's nothing (including those drivers you referred to) which properly fixes 2D Graphics performance problems on the Kaiser (yet). Even if full DirectX drivers were made available, as far as improving video playback quality goes, Windows Pocket Media Player would need to be coded to take advantage of that and I don't think it currently is... (I may be wrong on that though).

Given there are all these HTC devices with sub-par graphics performance that wear Microsoft Operating Systems, I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't insist that OEMs/Chipset providers provide them with full WHQL driver support as with desktop systems and then provide a revised core OS (well several revised core OSs, depending on the hardware each is to be used on) with the required native drivers (just as they do for desktop OEMs). Then the phone manufacturers could distribute these in the form of ROM upgrades. That'd be the proper way to fix it and it would stop Microsoft’s name being dragged through the mud that is associated with incomplete driver support for their OS. Haven't they learnt their lesson with desktops? Microsoft has the capability to fix this (along with other issues like poor synching software performance) but the longer they take to do so, the worse their reputation as a mobile phone OS provider will become.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
According to some of my 'sources', WM7 _will_ have a hardware performance requirements like these :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] megatec45:
Will WM 7 be able to run on a Kaiser, or will it only run on devices that have larger memory capacity and a faster processor?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mihyes:
My guess: WM7 will be able to run on Kaiser but HTC won't give a **** about implementing it for Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
Needs to be sooner rather than later

I know it's not you who's responsible but that's closing the stable door after the horse has long gone. My Kaiser will be an antique by the time WM 7 comes out and as already pointed out by the two posts since yours, there's no guarantee the drivers will fully support the Kaisers Qualcomm MSM7200 chip or that HTC will even release a WM 7 Upgrade for the Kaiser. Unless Microsoft does something sooner to sort this out, I'm thinking my best bet as far as video playback goes will be to wait for Coreplayer 2.0 to come along (assuming it will fully support the hardware in a Kaiser by then).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mreaglejr:
i've been waiting for a long time and checked this thread almost every day

does anybody know if there's any development in progress? i mean for real?

is there a changelog or sth? :) ooor should i just shut up? or there's nothing else to do?

sorry for asking hehe

xda ftw
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sturchy:
I was an employee of the tech support team and hated these calls ! the kaiser dose what I need it to Quake and email what more do you want really its not like your doing a a cad design on the phone !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajmagi:
howllly... is kaiser your first and last phone???

havent u realize that it IS A SLOW MACHINE??????? even in 2D-->Daily use!!!

I havent sold it yet just because of xda and I USED MONEY to buy it...

Here u can use many aps on that slowly **ck** machine just to wait for next gen pda

thank God ur not on that company again because those calls mean that it doesn't sell good unit after all

btw,... 9 oct... I guess it stays there 4ever.... lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
now Qualcomm Imageon

Well, it's now completely over.

Qualcomm bought it from AMD. Now, no chance of open-source drivers, no chance of quality drivers, no chance of this line to improve in any way competitive with other GPUs. After all, QCT had to go to AMD in the first place to get this level of 3D technical expertise after their previous attempts in the 6xxx line were complete mediocre fails.

http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2009/090120_QCT_Aquires_Assets_from_AMD.html (sourced from PhoneScoop).

Let us instead hope on PowerVR SGX (inside most of the other best phones such as TI OMAP, iPhone), or Tegra at this point.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
well that's... ****ty!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
If Qualcomm can't improve their provision of drivers, desperately needed to be supplied in full with devices that integrate their chipsets, then potential customers who've done there research will go elsewhere and they'll loose sales. If the driver development team have moved over to being Qualcomm empolyees, rather than working for AMD, I can't see why that would mean development will reduce.

Indeed, unless the new arrangements result in Qualcomm quickly providing full, top quality driver support for devices with its chipsets, the alternatives will be more attractive.