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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS UPDATE*

Chrome for Android is beginning to see more desktop improvements in the canary version, and they have said that they are looking to make further improvemts, such as ctrl+mouse scroll to zoom.

One point they mentioned was that they have a developer who works on mouse input, I'm guessing that they have only recently been assigned this task, as Chrome previously had practically no mouse input support (apart from the obvious left click).

If this is the case then, Chrome for Android may just begin to provide a true desktop like experience on Android desktop devices!

They have noted that they have been working on hover and mouse pointer icon updates, though this doesn't feel very effective right now...

I'm hoping that they fix this bug I have been having in DeX which required me to clear the apps data in order to stop it from crashing on startup in DeX mode...

But so far, I am glad to know that they are putting the effort in to acheive a good desktop experience!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] teegunn:
Yes, I think it is a good, almost free alternative. I am at least waiting for real world experiences people have with Dex, and also hopeful for tweaks/mods that can make it do what i have accomplished with Vysor - full use of my android phone in full desktop mode by simply plugging the stock charging cord USB into the laptop. At this point I do my all my payroll (20 employees) on my aging Asus transformer 300. It is sooo slow and laggy (I need to factory reset, but I have a non-stock ROM on it I don't want to mess with at this point) that using the tablet has become nearly impossible. I can use my excell program I use for Payroll on my phone, but the smaller screen makes filling out each field a pain. But it is soooo much faster than my old (but trusty) TF 300 tablet. So the best alternative is to use my phone, but on a bigger screen and with keyboard/mouse/touchscreen support on a bigger laptop display. I just did ran my excell payroll sheet on my phone using Vysor today, and it worked great. So from now on I only need to bring my phone and laptop, not my tablet too.

At the very least, I suggest people try it out for a month - only costs $2 for the pro version of Vysor for them month, which you need to access advanced options (fullscreen mode, faster transfer rate for sharper screen mirroring). It's pretty neat and for me for now is exactly what I wanted, even if it has a few issues (mostly slight lag, but faaar less lag than my Asus tf300 has at this point).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I'm sure that now the S8 has introduced more people to the idea of UC, the demand for this kind of product will go up, increasing Vysor's revenue and enabling them to invest more in R&D to help squash those bugs!

But, good to know that you have got pretty much what you were looking for! :)

This will only encourage the industry to invest in these experiences, and that can only be a good thing for us as end users in my opinion! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Iminzil:
So happy :D looks like my Dex is arriving today :D

This is the only reason I went from xiaomi mi mix to this phone.

I´m using my computer with 3 monitors 8-10 hours daily, and 4 of them is gaming.

And now one of the monitor is gonna be used to the phone and use it to surf the web and answering people while im gaming and cant alt+tab out.

And often on hotels so this is gonna make my life so mutch easier to travel light with only tablet and phone + dex. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] r8dooo:
Just got mine delivered today can't wait to get it home and test it out sold my iPad as I'm hoping this will be more productive for me. Use office 365
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Iminzil:
Got mine now :D
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Have fun to all of you receiving them today.

I would definately reccomend that you try the Samsung browser for web browsing in desktop mode, but then when you undock the device, don't worry as all of your tabs will still be there in the phone mode of the browser.

Simple functions such as 'ctrl+mouse wheel scroll' to zoom just make it so much more effective than chrome as a desktop browser.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Iminzil:
yeah samsung browser is the best, but hard to use when everything is synced on chrome :P

Someone should make a sync app between them :P
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Emilny84:
4k?

Got mine today and om running it on a 4k (PB287Q) but it only displays 1080p, anyhone know how to output 4k?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] r8dooo:
So got mine today but can't get it to work? I'm not using the official charge head but I am the cable just not getting any power to the phone at all? Can anyone try a generic charge head to see if that the issue. Help much appreciated
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] INGHUGO:
waste of money why not an hml cable ?

why not just buy an hml y bougth one and it works great and i just pay like 3 dls and does the same as the dock
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ksoze:
Why not? Just buy a HDMI cable and plug it straight into the non-existent HDMI port. That's freaking brilliant. Maybe you can do some exploring and drill a hole into your S8 to find the HDMI port - just like the Apple folks trying to find the 3.5mm headphone jack.

I guess you meant to say USB Type-C to HDMI adapter - which may work - but the advantages of the dock is that full size USB devices will work, Ethernet is available and the User Interface - which if you actually looked at the screenshots already provided - look pretty sweet. There's also the side benefit of charging your phone at the same time.

For those of you that have the Dex - any issues with Cases? I just saw a youtube review and it looks like 3rd party cases that cover the bottom will prevent the USB-C to connect all the way. According to the video, official Samsung cases have most of the bottom part open - so they could be used with the Dex Dock without issues.

For myself, I ordered this adapter: http://www.primecables.com/p-354262...e-c-charging-port-15cm-primecables-#sku360879

I'm hoping there's a way to enable the Dex interface soon - as I don't like many of the Samsung cases this time around.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ShrekOpher:
Does it launch DEX OS when connected or just mirror your phone to a monitor?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I previously tried my Nexus 6P (Official google dual type-C output) charger and it didn't seem to work, but any of my cables connected to the Samsung charger are fine. Which is quite useful as I have some long type-c cables and the provided one is ok but if you want to park your dock several meters from the power socket, then longer cables are requied. I currently use a small type-a(3.0) to type-c adapter in the official Samsung charger (type-a) port and then connect complete type-c cables into that and everything works fine!

hope that could be of some help.

I will try more of my type-c chargers later and report back, but so far, my Google charger doesn't work (I think that its power output is not high enough...).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Apparently all Samsung cases work (Except the clearview case - currently) thanks to the fact that the official ones don't push the charger away from the type-c socket, so as long as you buy a case which doesn't cover the bottom of the device, you should be fine (just check the bottom of the samsung cases as a reference).

But more on that clearview case. I have purchased one of them, and it notifies me that it is not currently compatible, I think that is due to the magnets within the case, as it may trigger certain unwanted actions in Dex mode(such as screen-on & off, which may continuosly force you back to the login screen on the desktop as it makes the device respond as though you have pressed the power/lock button on the side).

But I think that this issue will be resolved with a later update (and definately in the Android-O update as it provides better multi-screen api's for manufacturers to build upon this kind of experience with both displays on simultaneously!).

Hope this has been useful to you! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
No because it requires an input device for the secondary display to be of any use.

*SLIGHTLY OFFTOPIC*

I tried to connect to a chromecast yesterday, and it can mirror my dex docked desktop to another screen(*Important note* don't think that you can get Dex on Chromecast without the dock btw). Sure that is not useful to everyone, but interesting to know that it works.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ShrekOpher:
Yeah I am trying to figure out if there is a way to get Dex OS to launch without the Dock. Back in the Atrix 4G days we found a way to get it to work and it was very convenient. Just had to carry two cords around instead of an entire dock.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nosympathy:
I've been toying with it, haven't gotten anywhere yet. I bet it will happen. Just a waiting game. Once it does happen though, Samsung is either going to go full hog trying to block it or be forced to sell the dex dock at a reasonable price.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Ryland Johnson:
I use a lap top attached via HDMI to my Smart TV. Can the DEX plus directly into the said Smart TV, if not when I plug the DEX into my lap top will it show on my TV via, obviously, the lat top? Totally out of my depth with the DEX and would sincerely be grateful for any feedback. Many thanks.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*UPDATE*

I have now tested the dock with two Native, USB-C chargers and it seems that it only wants to use the official Samsung "adaptive fast charger" (which has a Type-A socket to Type-C cable, not sure if that matters, but I thought I'd mention it anyway)

Here is a link for those of you who want to check out the details of the UK charger:

https://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/of...BgKbnEHrWr5YbMv70LbtLlY-E_65QdW_CsaArpv8P8HAQ

I'm not sure if it will work with third party chargers with 'Adaptive fast charge' support, but I would assume that it will.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] r8dooo:
Thanks that's great I managed to get my official charge head back (left in a hotel) and now is working fine guess it needs the fast charge head to work. Appreciate your feedback
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Mth97:
Okay, but then why does it worked one time and then not anymore ? It's a bit confusing. Maybe it need to be set as standard app.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
There must have been an update to the stock file explorer which broke compatibilty...

When I next have the time I will see if I can create a workaround for this issue...

<Rant>

I don't know why Samsung deliberately remove support for the standard system launch commands. All that they are doing is breaking compatibility with their own apps...

As I previously mentioned, I came across this issue before with the calculator, when adding support for the calculator hotkey, Samsung don't support the common Android launch command, making it difficult for us developers to provide a great experience on their devices... but also, thhings like the calculator hotkey on the keyboard would work fine if only Samsung had added support for the standard Android launch commaands within their apps...

</Rant>

*EDIT*

Since it was just a quick fix I have just pushed out an update (v1.70) to solve the compatibility issue with the newer Samsung file explorer version. You should get the update some time today.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Mth97:
Well first of all thanks for that fast fix! Really nice :)

I also find that very strange Samsung does not seem to like making things easy for their customers, pretty sad.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It doesn't make it any easier for themselves either... as they eventually look to replace their apps with newer alternatives on future devices, suddenly everything that the developers had done to make Samsungs devices better to use will be broken, and then suddenly, Samsungs users are having a poor experience on their newer devices because of this...

I have tried to work around the problem by first checking for a file explorer which uses the Android standards, to allow you to choose/launch your preferred file browser, but if no other file browser is installed, it will now check for Samsungs stock file browser and launch that.

I'd prefer if Samsung just used as many open Android standards as possible to ensure that all apps which work for other devices will work fine on theirs too.

After all, not all developers use Samsungs latest devices, so many apps won't work to their full potential.

And right now, with DeX being a very new thing still that many haven't heard of yet, Samsung needs to ensure that all apps built for common phones work fine in DeX to provide a usable desktop environment for more people.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ars0n:
I just gotta thank you for your commitment to this, prob wouldnt even use this thing if it wasnt for you <3 hugs n kisses <3
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Ramer:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION]: Could you set up your XDA account to accept donations? You are deserving for the great apps and support you give us Dex users ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=4494092]ars0n[/MENTION]
[MENTION=2674887]Ramer[/MENTION]

Thank you guys for the feedback! :)

I have set up a link to my Paypal donations page (the same one linked within my apps).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Ramer:
Confirmation number: 6JW754310W423784M

I encourage others to step up and show some support, this is how we get and keep great developers who are deserving.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] IMMORTALKING69:
Someone needs to replicate the atrix tablet/ phone thing. Maybe dex would give Samsung a push in that direction. I would drop a few bills on a screen/dex that I could plug in/ compartment my s8 into.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kreal:
Only missing my order of HDMI male/male for my project of a "lapdock" with DeX to be completed, maybe you can get some inspiration when you see it ?

And on another note, can someone tell me how to activate the start-up guide, with the screen adjustment thingy in DeX ?

SmilerOnline, nice job :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] garykcliu:
Does anyone knows how to use the other virtual keyboard via Dex Station (such as SWIFT or TouchPal) rather than using the built-in Samsung keyboard?

Many thanks for your help..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Don't bother, the keyboard occupies more than half of the screen at its minimum size. It's not designed for desktop usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
+1

Clearly, the Samsung DeX virtual keyboard supports a floating window style approach when in DeX mode, but near all Android keyboards are built exclusively to pop-up from the bottom of the screen and fill up ~half of the screen vertically on a landscape display and the entire width...

I will try to speak to Samsung later this year about publishing open API's to enable you to use your preferred virtual keyboard once the developer adds support for the floating keyboard API's in their own virtual keyboards. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kreal:
I finished my Samsung DeX laptop / lapdock project, if anyone wants to be inspired to make one themselves :)

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s8/accessories/samsung-dex-laptop-lapdock-t3657892
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] russ18uk:
Nice effort :)

You should try and get the original keyboard and touchpad to work with DeX and perhaps try and figure a way to dock the phone inside :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kreal:
Thanks :)

Keyboard works, trackpad doesn't :(

Its Apple fault for not following HID standards...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Do any of you think that we may get some news about big DeX updates at the Note 8 launch on Wednesday?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] alhart345:
At my local Samsung display centre in Taipei, the Dex display stations have been removed. I hope Note8 brings 2k or 4k output, USB 3.1.

Something a little bit concerns me; how does Samsung make money off Dex? They are a hardware company, sinking the development money into this software and the future maintenance and development costs can only be recovered via sales of the Dex module and through the supporting phones. Is it enough? Will they cancel it in the event the division performs poorly?

On this line, whilst I think the C-Force device is great, perhaps our long term best interests are served in buying the Dex and its successor...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
I think so since Apple is catching up on this. Hope they would out do Apple by a big margin if Apple launch it. I'm not an Apple fan but do hope that they would bring some new useful ideas so that we may get them on Dex in the future too. One of the things I hope Samsung would do is to allow the use of phone as an input device in Dex mode. In such a way that would allow us to use our favorie keyboard as well as acting as a superior track pad. That way we can also take Dex to anywhere that has a decent TV or monitor. All we need to bring is a tiny CF003. It would also be nice if the phone can be used as a second screen just like the Windows. May be also allow launching of apps from phone. Just dreaming on, hope they come true, haha!

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Phones are very profitable. Any peripherals (even if it is CF003) that help the phone sells would help in their overall business. Apple wont be so sucessful without a ton of accessories made available to them. Just my 1 cent :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
As a developer, I can confirm that Android O 8.0 will bring the tools for better multi-display support, so that will definately arrive, the question is when rather than if.

If I can get the money together to get to their developer event to give the presentation that they asked me to give at their developer conference in October, I will be touching on this very subject, to try and encourage the DeX development team to implement this sooner, and making sure that they are definately aware of these improvements to Android 8.0 if they don't know already!

[MENTION=4152894]alhart345[/MENTION]:

Apple's business became very successful, almost exclusively because of the success of the iPhone, other products under their brand started to sell in greater numbers because of the iPhones success.

I don't think that the DeX station itself is the real money maker, the number of phones that they can sell, is where the real money will come from, and if they can make those iPhone loyalists become Samsung loyalists somehow, then that will make Samsung ever more successful.

DeX could just be the feature that makes Samsung stand out.

I just hope that Samsung begin to advertise this feature on TV in some of the most influencial countries, to try and make people aware of this, before Apple decide that it is time to bring this to market, to up their sales...

I honestly think, that if the iPhone loyalists use a Samsung device for 12 months or longer, they will never want to go back to the iPhone, but Samsung somehow need to give some big incentive to make people switch. I think that awareness of DeX could just be that thing which they need for Samsung to get more of the iPhone loyalists to switch sides!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] mnhs1010:
Samsung dex should have some kind of wireless connectivity. Atleast smartview in wireless should be able to screenmirror wirelessly through dex station but sad have to buy another chromecast for wireless connectivity.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Honestly, before DeX, I was working on a DeX like project for Android, but the Chromecast had too big a latency issue for it to be a viable solution...

Now that we have DeX, I'm sure that some hardware vendors will begin to invest R&D into reducing the latency issue with wireless display solutions, so we can just place our device on a wireless charging pad and it will automatically connect.

But for the time being, a physical connection is the best option. Especially if we want to see 4k@60Hz support in future DeX versions.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
To do it via wireless connection Samsung can do away with Dex altogether, or make a Dex2 to replace Chromcast! As Mr. Smiler had pointed out, latency is a big issue, especially when we use it as a computer replacement. Projecting videos etc on TV won't be so bad if the interaction is minimum.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
In some cases I would see a mouse pointer delay of between 500ms & 1500ms...

Bare in mind that it should be closer to 16ms response time for a smooth experience.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Does this picture suggest that you can use the note stylus pen on the phones display whilst in DeX mode?

[IMG="DeX Note 8"]https://www.androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Galaxy-Note-8-Italy-Leaflet-Leak-768x420.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
I've watched a few videos about Note 8, so far only in TheVerge video they mention DeX.

They say there's an update to DeX and switching between phone and desktop mode is almost instantaneous. They don't mention anything else though.

Oh and in Europe if you pre-order the Note 8 you get a free DeX station/dock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxsX0rnyvw

EDIT: Found an article that talks about the new features in DeX for Note 8:

https://www.stuff.tv/sg/features/7-new-samsung-dex-features-galaxy-note-8

And 6 minute video of Note 8 in DeX mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLjebbc0uCs

Basically, new features and observations:

* New Fullscreen launcher with more apps visible at once (I am not sure how I feel about that yet, I will have to test it.)

* Games can go fullscreen, there is an option in Game Launcher for that (Great, major problem for me in the current version)

* They showed game optimized for keyboard and mouse (not sure if this is a new feature or it is just a game optimization)

* Support for MIDI keyboards??

* Overall DeX looked a lit bit snappier, but it may be me

* Switching between phone and DeX is still as slow as it is now.

So there is bad news and good news. The good one is that new features are all software based and the DeX station is the same one. The bad one is that it is not known when our S8/S8+ will get the update.

EDIT2: Ok, one last thing for today I found this mentioned on CNBC article:

I am not sure what Dex Labs is but it may give us full-screen for every app, even for ones that are not optimized.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Re "* Switching between phone and DeX is still as slow as it is now."

To those who haven't used Dex before the statement would probably make them think that starting up Dex is a SLOW process, especially when the Verge "expert" falsely said in the video that it takes up to a minute when it actually takes about 10 seconds. Compared that to starting up a computer, switching S8 from one mode to another is very fast, and it does it on the fly without losing anything. If the phone is ringing you can simply pick it up and answer it. Obviously we all wish it is further optimized. Cheers...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] krumbs:
Will DeX now support 4K on both Note 8 and S8/S8+, or are we still stuck with 1080p output? And I suppose the new software updates for DeX will reach S8 only after the Note 8 is shipping...