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[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Yeah. Brazil always had quicker update because of huge amount of sold devices, a major Motorola market area, it seems.

I'll try to make TWRP backup (everyone has bl unlock, right?) because I have a crippled board, and nothing to loose, but, of course, it's a one direction road. Once flashed, foreign OTA from different model changes Motorola smartphone unpredictably. Don't try to do it with a working phone, surprise won't let you wait for long :laugh:
[X Style (Pure) General] thelolotov:
Yeah, I'm not sure why everyone was so gung-ho to download it... Outside of ROM developers, unless you have the Brazil model, this doesn't really pertain to you. I have a feeling we're going to have a few people complain that it broke their phone because they forced it to install anyway.
[X Style (Pure) General] Nvjoel:
Is there any way to broke a phone only by using system and boot TWRP backup?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
had a noob question (sorry in advance)

.. while ota update is of 1.3 gb does that include bootloader + recovery upgrade also?? if its not bootloader+recovery update then can i flash twrp take backup and then revert to the latest stock recovery (6.0 December patch one)??
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
Open in any editor "updater script" and look for:

aboot, sbl, gpt.

IF YOU HAVEN'T RETLA DS 24... YOU CANNOT INSTALL THIS OTA UPDATE.

If you still want to have smartphone... not heavy mirror.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
did i ask that should i flash. pls don't give extra answers.. just answer what im saying

I'm having retasia_ds and i know not to flash that so why are you telling me that ?
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
Sorry I thought you wrote again about Retla_ds.

Twrp can't backup&restore all partitons.

Downgrade from 7 to 6 will be probably possible by flashing stock with fastboot(without bootloader&gpt). After it you can restore twrp's backup.

Before ota you have to unlock BL and boot(not flash) twrp(3.1+). Do full stock 6.x backup.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
chears its okay. maybe i am not asking questions properly

i meant that

let's assume that im on stock (7.0) wanma take just the backup of romv(no data (pics,other stuffs)

if i probably boot twrp then will i able to take the backup?? and after boot is over will i get back to stock recovery?? my bl is unlocked already but who knows that is recovery updated or not !
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Will it still be possible to take files from this version of nougat to make custom roms better?
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
Only boot:

fastboot boot twrp3xx.img - this loads twrp from pc.

All partitions are still untouched.

Then you can backup: stock recovery, boot, system, data, esp./twrp 3.1.1 can; 3.0.2 can't backup recovery/

Data - apks, settings etc. Not media, obb, downloads etc.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Maybe, but I don't know how much difference it will make until we get the kernel source, that's usually 30-90 days after the ROM release.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
I see... So we'd probably have to wait a bit for camera performance to improve?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
thankyou :D
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
Remember:

Someone else cannot restore your esp.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Too early to tell.. I'm sure ROM devs are looking into it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
with camera i think all gestures would also start working and we can see some improvement in battery life and audio quality will also be improved
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Again... why would you think that? No offense, but your questions are more fishing for your hopeful upgrades recently...

By "gestures" I assume you mean Moto Gestures, and of course they would work... Why wouldn't they, they always have on stock and should continue too. If ROM's implement gestures they are doing it a different way and that would be dependent on the ROM, not the camera.

Battery life... if you expect much of a change in Nougat, you're kidding yourself. There are two major battery hogs here, radio and screen, and those are hardware issues, a different ROM, no matter how optimized, will not have a significant impact on their battery usage. We could potentially see some improvement in battery usage when sleeping with the new deep doze mode (or whatever it's called in Nougat) so if it sits unplugged, sleeping (idle), and unmoving for significant amounts of time the battery usage could be reduced, but for most people this isn't where the Moto X P/S has a real problem at all since our doze mode works quite well actually. TBH, most testers have reported battery life is the same or slightly worse than Marshmallow, but I haven't talked to many so my sampling of info is pretty small, take it with a grain of salt.

Improved audio quality? I am actually confused by this, the audio quality of the Moto X P/S is excellent, both in call and when playing media... what are you hoping for here that wouldn't require a hardware change?
[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Patience, folks, I'm digging teeths into it )

P.S. Speed provided by The Great Firewall of China, lol

P.P.S. Grab this ROM

here

(removed, ask if REALLY needed), and you have full set, but beware of what you are doing. It would be wise idea to use supplied backup (see next links) instead of tinkering with OTA.
[X Style (Pure) General] ninormalen:
Anyone, how to install update?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Do you have a RETLA XT1572? If no, move along and wait, you can't.

If you do have a Latin America MXS, is it pure, unrooted stock on the December 2016 security update that is -16 build? If no, move along and wait, you can't.

If you fit this criteria, download the OTA zip file shared earlier and place it in your ADB directory. Reboot to bootloader and start recovery. Select Apply update from ADB. On your computer go to the terminal and the ADB folder and enter "adb sideload OTA.zip" but replace OTA.zip with the actual filename of the update and wait a while. You should see some progress updates in the display or the terminal (I don't remember the exact information). Once it is done, it will reboot and you should be on official stock Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] ninormalen:
I have XT1575. In previous post I downloaded update for XT1575. Is this update file not for my phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
There is no update available for the XT1575 yet...
[X Style (Pure) General] liderzre:
Is mine moto ok for update?

Thx.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hashbang173:
retla OTA running fine on XT1575, don't like the boot animation though.

I only updated my system and boot.img, I don't like to flash bootloaders or modems from other variants if I don't have to do so.

To update on my XT1575, I flashed system and boot from the latest M retla firmware, neutered the OTA zip to flash safely, and flashed my neutered zip in TWRP.

I would not recommend doing this unless you really know what you are doing. I only did this for development purposes.

Before you ask, yes I could make a TWRP flashable zip to update any variant to this version of Nougat, but I fear it would cause chaos and many soft-bricked devices.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No... RETLA, Retail Latin America only!

Yours is RETEU, Retail European Union.

Others will come in time, be patient...
[X Style (Pure) General] mastarifla:
Could you at least pull the Moto Apps and upload that? I don't have a CLARK device but I'm interested in the revision that they have, I was going to try and bsdiff the OTA but it only works for smaller files...
[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Get everything you want: backed up by TWRP kernel+system.

Gonna pull out also modem and recovery, but my ADB sucks now, I'll dump them later. UPD: I dumped, but you don't need it, previous 6.0.1 modems work just fine. With 7.0 modem no service error on my XT1575, so...
[X Style (Pure) General] mastarifla:
Freaking perfect! :)

Thanks again!!
[X Style (Pure) General] Nvjoel:
How can I disable boot animation sound?
[X Style (Pure) General] Zerakon:
in settings u can find it.

tell me, u install backup from s5610? so.. how working, and what working (or not)?
[X Style (Pure) General] Nvjoel:
Yes, everything worked on my EU variant, but I already went back to Dirty Unicorns, only advantage of stock is faster camera switching 1s vs 4s on DU and maybe more stable sound playback.
[X Style (Pure) General] Breezyz:
How did you manage to install it ?:confused:
[X Style (Pure) General] djcrystals:
I was able to install the TWRP Backup on my Moto X Pure.. EVERYTHING worked EXCEPT calling. I actually didn't think anything would work being the Pure is a different variant. Anyhew, leaving Xposed behind won't be worth the upgrade in my opinion, regardless.... Thanks to s5610 for posting the file!
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
Any update to camera UI or something? Or we are getting the same camera from marshmallow?
[X Style (Pure) General] liderzre:
What can i do with zip file?

I have 1572 eu.

Thx
[X Style (Pure) General] Nvjoel:
No, it looks the same as on marshmallow
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Like you, I'm not really looking at the jump to N because of Xposed. I've tweaked with Xposed as of February and have a noticeable improvement in battery life. However, the future for Xposed on N or future Android variants is not promising due to the developers time constraints, so at some point, we will probably give it up.
[X Style (Pure) General] s5610:
Nothing. Was needed only to take OTA, and is 100% safe only for 1572 RETLA owners. I'll remove that from public to not confuse.

OK, now HOW TO:

To install 7.0 you need to be on latest 6.0 stock ROM available. Then unlock bootloader, flash TWRP instead of stock recovery, and restore TWRP-backup I provided. Only 2 partitions to restore: boot (kernel), and system. Modem should remain 6.0, don't touch it. You need to wipe Data, and Cache partitions to clean them from 6.0 content. Make sure you saved everything important., because all settings and apps will be deleted, reenter Google password will be prompted, etc. Internal Storage partition may be left unwiped.
[X Style (Pure) General] ban.codrut:
Have you tried flashing your retus modem to see if calling was working again ?
[X Style (Pure) General] djcrystals:
Nah, I didn't get that far since I knew I wasn't​ sticking with it. If I get more free time I'll probably play a bit more but for now I need a working phone. I'm "on call" for work for a few days.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
One funny thing is, now that the nougat update is finally rolling out. I haven't seen any major tech website reporting it.
[X Style (Pure) General] cricetus:
The same

Wysłane z mojego XT1572 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
I had stock marshmallow, I flashed the TWRP backup, deleted cache and data, and everything is working perfectly after first boot. I have the Moto X Pure (Xt1575)
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Probably because no one cares anymore. Most of us that Moto has truly pissed off have moved on to another phone or just given up....
[X Style (Pure) General] zapty:
Question to Nougat users !

How is the battery life and performance as compared to marshmallow ?.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Performance is much better. I haven't had it on my device long enough to give a comprehensive report on battery life but so far it seems the same.
[X Style (Pure) General] xumial:
How is the heat issue, can you still bake an egg on it while using more heavy apps? ^^
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
It still gets a little warm, but it's definitely much better. I can use Snapchat while charging without the phone burning a hole through my hand. It'll still get a tad warm but nothing horrible anymore.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Phone calling working fine? And where did you get the stock firmware to upgrade to 7.0? I know there's different versions of the 6.0 but idk which one to use really
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Calling is great. The TWRP backup of the 7.0 is linked on s5610's post on page 75 of this thread. I used the 6.0 software found on this thread. You can update to December security patch before flashing the backup if you want, but I didn't.
[X Style (Pure) General] ban.codrut:
Thanks to S5610, I'm rocking 7.0 right now with clark RETEU. I haven't done any fancy like downgrading to a 6.0 firmware from RETLA to get the OTA. I was just running AICP: factory reset and restored the TWRP boot and system backup (the "Another mirror" one, or here ) , this way I kept untouched my modem (the one that AICP tries to flash every time which I think is the newest: BASEBAND 29.01.88.02R) and

marshmallow BOOTLOADER

(DANGER! must keep for now). This way phone+wifi works as they did before.

Performance wise nothing magically but I go for stability any day, including no overheating.

Disclaimer: I do use EX Kernel Manager (root with magisk) to keep the battery hunger Big cores in check by tweaking core control to allow them to fully disengage (min cores = 0). With just that the battery has discharged at 13%/h with continous use ( music, installing some apps, some internet browsing, mostly screen off: 30 mins SoT in 1h30min). I will go a couple of battery cycles without touching the governor to see how it goes.

So far so good, really glad about it overall. I miss some of the customization in AICP or other roms, but this is STOCK!

Next in line to do is disable by build.prop the dual-sim options, wish I remembered how...

If you are interested to know more about battery I will PM you when I have better readings, [MENTION=5564103]zapty[/MENTION]
[X Style (Pure) General] djcrystals:
Well, I can't get voice to work. I was on Stock MM with Dec patch on Verizon. It can dial but no ringtone, hangs up after 20 seconds...any suggestions?
[X Style (Pure) General] antuong12c2:
Hi guys, unless Hashbang173 installed it in xt1575, did any guys install more ?
[X Style (Pure) General] xabr3:
Wow. This is not a soak-test release, right?
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
Right. Official Nougat Retla DualSim.
[X Style (Pure) General] crasmen:
I have installed it. Problem with downloading apps in play store..
[X Style (Pure) General] lelas3:
Vulkan

No Vulkan Api support :(
[X Style (Pure) General] kartoffelmann.m:
Same Problem

I have the same problem. Cache wiped , updates uninstalled , data wiped , reboot , nothing works.
[X Style (Pure) General] zapty:
Yeah , that'd be sweet , i am just interested in the battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] ghitus:
Hi everyone, I restored the TWRP backup on a RETEU Moto X Style and everything seems to be ok. Just a question: in order to gain root, have I to flash through TWRP the SuperSU zip? Thanks in advance, Gaetano.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Android N comments

I guess they don't want to be known as the "blog who cried Nugget." Or maybe they're just waiting for the domestic release.

No more or less so than before, I'd imagine. If your software load pushes the device so hard that it gets that warm, then the Rom isn't going to make any difference.

It's too bad we couldn't get dual SIM going on the XT1575. From what I understand, the connection point for the second card exists on the board, but isn't populated. Being able to switch between my main Sim and FreedomPop without having to carry around two phones would be absolute "nirvana."
[X Style (Pure) General] drumber42:
Sorry for the stupid question, but I just restored my Clark to stock so I'm oh-so-game to try this out, but I'm confused. Can you get this working on XT1575 RETUS or not?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Results seem mixed... Seriously, if you are not in a position where your Moto X is NOT your primary phone, you're not dependent on it, or you don't have a backup device to use if things go south, then don't try to use RETLA firmware on it. Best case scenario, it just works (which seems less common), most likely it works EXCEPT calling due to a radio mismatch with the kernel, or worst case scenario it bricks (less likely).

If you don't need your Moto X as your daily driver, go for it... if you do, wait for your official OTA. To be honest, your not missing that much... Most people who have tried it see no major difference and just go back to their custom ROM anyway.
[X Style (Pure) General] drumber42:
TWRP was giving me major issues (freezed when I tried any wipe) so I restored stock 5.1.1 and backed up. Now I'm going to flash PureNexus Marshmallow and back that up.

I have been on Nougat ROMs the better part of this year, the camera lag, and overall system slow down after a couple days on ALL Nougat ROMs has me so frustrated. Honestly if I can get official stock Nougat to work I'd be fine with that till PureNexus gets updated to Nougat. Idk if I can stay back on Marshmallow lol. So in conclusion this is my only phone, but I'm back at the start right now anyway so it's worth a shot. I just see a couple different instructions, and the one guy said something about AICP but not which version specifically.

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Could you get in contact with me? I've restored to stock, so I wanna give it a shot. I've got backups and a restore to stock tool anyway so I really wanna see if I can get this working on my XT1575, if you could help that'd be awesome!

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Just realized who it was that I just quoted lol my bad, I'm sure you're busy lol, keep up the great work with everything you do. I just need to be patient. I'm going back to AICP, Viper was great at first but like so many N ROMs and just grinded to standstills within a day.
[X Style (Pure) General] Breezyz:
Did you use Hashbang kernel before ? Cause I think that it was the reason of the freezing with trwp not the stock rom ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] dollarbr:
Here it is the OTA for XT1572 RETLA_DS

OTA May 1st

Here is a "unlock bootloader fixed specifically for Nougat" (TWRP FLASHABLE)
[X Style (Pure) General] drumber42:
No actually, lol
[X Style (Pure) General] andromobilogy:
I dont really care for the OTA tbh with so many custom ROMs to play with. I just hope the OTA shows up fast so that the Custom Roms get better.
[X Style (Pure) General] lmulli:
The issue being that custom roms are nowhere near as stable as stock and generally don't work as expected, ie. dodgy wifi, poor camera support, no bluetooth etc.....
[X Style (Pure) General] sieula:
Can anyone help, i have exactly the same problem. XT1575 btw
[X Style (Pure) General] antariksh:
Tried the TWRP Backup on XT1572 RETAIL ASIA Dual Sim.

It corrupted my SDCard (Quick format from phone fixed it) but rest everything is working perfectly, including Incoming/Outgoing calls and downloading Apps from PlayStore.

Besides, as rumors from Soak testers suggested, the Heating issue has been fixed. Also the standby battery life has improved. Dropped just 2% in 7hrs unlike 6-7% in custom N ROMs.

Even on the first battery cycle, am on 2h48m of SOT and still 12% battery left. (with Moto Display, Location and WiFi/LTE always on, also a bit of WiFi hotspot)

Camera is perfect, no delays.

Can now disable unused SIM Slots.

Performance is just the same.

No bugs found yet.

Can absolutely become the daily driver.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
All these xt1575 users are trying the 572 update.. who will watch for the update when it comes to US? :confused:
[X Style (Pure) General] thelolotov:
My bootloader's still locked, so I'll be paying close attention, haha.
[X Style (Pure) General] tbkrazeey:
I'm losing hope daily. I'm so tired of how long this is taking, we are gonna be the last to get nougat at this rate.
[X Style (Pure) General] granadier:
So guys, i downloaded the twrp backup of the xt1572 nougat and install it on my xt 1575, root it with ssytemless supersu last ver. and heavly modified the buil.prop to match in almost every aspect the xt1575, so i have fully stable 7.0 nougat everything is work as spected, call, wify, bluethooth, goole play installing apps, i have 0 issues with it. if anything happens will post it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Came from stock or custom ROMs? People are having different results so what was your steps really?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
link will be appreciated? and have some questions..

if i flash the twrp zip then can i Revert back to stock?? it won't affect my ret_asia_ds firmware? screenshot will be more appreciated
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I should not have to tell you these, since you appear to know it all.

Lenovo, as other companies might conducts soak test of several apps, software and services at one point in time.

I can tell you with certainty that I have not join any Nougat soak test.

It appears that you are in the Nougat soak test and should not have said that it "was activated 2 days ago".
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Once again, I think the term "soak test" is being thrown around to describe different things by different people.

It sounded like there was a small, private soak test that may have started late in March for users who opted in, signed NDAs, etc.

Now, there may be a "limited public rollout" pushed to a small % of public users, and people are using "soak test" to describe that too. That would explain why someone like jojesa has it without having opted into anything, but most of us can't get it yet, no matter how many times we pull the SIM.
[X Style (Pure) General] Connor Su:
My device is on LineageOS 14.1 for quite a long time since I updated it to Android Nougat last December, on AICP night build then. It is too late to receive the official software, and I think I will never roll my Clark back to official firmware.:eek:

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BTW, I won't want to buy a Moto device in the future because it is already a Lenovo device brand, which means the Moto design has gone, LOL:rolleyes: I might choose a Google Pixel serious phone, whatever, who knows.I just want to say, I hate the Moto Z series' too thin body, small battery, not useful modularity design of cell phone and the delay of Android system update.
[X Style (Pure) General] gfullwr70:
My brother in Texas received the update last night while I in North Carolina have not but I do believe it's real my brother had no reason to lie.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Wow, It does appears that if several users here do not get the update then it is not real, it is fake or do not exist.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Deodexed wouldn't be out this early. It literally just started rolling out like a day ago of course we don't have it.

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Well of course not everyone is gonna get it. It's a rollout not like an ETA from a custom ROM. Y'all need to stop jumping to conclusions and give it some time. Even though Motorola just gave out proof y'all still day it's fake. This thread is pretty hilarious.
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
You see the difference now? If I'm wrong hey I don't mind saying I am but something is fishy here.
[X Style (Pure) General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned. Too much bickering...

Keep it civil and to avoid further argument, you must substantiate claims with hard evidence, I suggest.
[X Style (Pure) General] dutty.persian:
There is such a things as over-scepticism and I believe you just pointed it out.

Lack of evidence is not necessarily proof of contrary.

Presence of evidence is not necessarily proof either.

Everything is in a state of uncertainty.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
True. We all know that the build exists. Just waiting for someone to capture the OTA and share. ?
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
Ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner. If these folks say they got the update why not share it. The majority of folks on here do that or ask how to if they don't know how especially when we've all been waiting forever for it lol.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
I don't think these people know how to capture an OTA.

I'm certain it's a soak test.