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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=1520712]maxnik1[/MENTION]:

Don't give up on DeX just yet.

*LINUX ON DEX - NEWS UPDATE*

They have now published a promo video, which suggests that Linux on DeX is nearly here.

I'm guessing that the DeX team must have a limited development budget which has been spent on Linux on DeX.

But now this is near completion, maybe later this year we can expect them to bring in more DeX-oriented developers that are looking to improve the DeX experience as a whole for everybody! :)

Lets wait and see! :)

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*NEW DEX PROMO VIDEO*

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I'd assume that its gonna get more attention this year as the promotion has increased a little more, which implies that the DeX team have a bigger budget to spend on DeX! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] bmszabo:
Guys, it CAN be that I have missed the post here; but after upgrading to Oreo (8.0, unrooted, official update in the Netherlands) my phone (S8+) works as touchpad with my third party (Alibaba) Dex-clone!

Great news to me, carrying an extra BT mouse was always pain in the a.. to me -no need to do that any more!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] forcedv:
[MENTION=489374]bmszabo[/MENTION]

- Does your adaptor need power for dex to work?

- Does your S8 work as a dex keyboard too?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
It's the Melopow M002. It still works, but needs a power source connected, otherwise it only mirrors the phone's screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] bmszabo:
Yes, it works only with power cord in Dex mode and no, I cannot put in keyboard mode; if I fire Dex up w/o my BT mouse, display of my S8+ gets white lines, making four squares on the screen and a hand sign, and I can use it as TouchPad.

However, after my initial enthusiasm; I cannot do scroll (two fingers move) or right click with it - makes it hardly usable for everyday work..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] forcedv:
Hate the idea of carrying a power cord ... use the 002 also.

Looks like I'll be holding off on the Oreo update as it doesn't really offer any major changes to the S8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] fylim:
I updated to Oreo official. No more Dex with the Melopow M002. Just HDMI mirroring.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jabberwock:
Mine works great! Official update.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] fylim:
That's wierd then. Any app data I should wipe to test?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jabberwock:
It seems you have to need the power adapter plugged in. Without it switches to HDMI mirroring.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] richard1910:
Do you have a link of that adapter?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] bmszabo:
My bad; it was Amazon. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Nint...oding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=oh_aui_i_sh_post_o0_img
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] fylim:
You are absolutely rightt! Works now! Noob mistake sorry

---------- Post added at 04:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 AM ----------

Whats the max resolution that we can go with Dex on the Melopower M0002 ? I have 2560x1440 monitor but only see it displaying 1920x1080.

I can see the 2560x1440 setting in Display in Dex settings but greyed out.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
DeX enterprise promo talking about VDI's replacing the need to use older desktop/laptop solutions.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] xxaa:
I understand it need power but why not use the phone's screen to display DEX/GNU ? With resizing you will only need an external keyboard (and power for long use). With the note 8 you could even use the pen for more accuracy.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I just checked to see if I could order the DeX Pad yet and saw this:

"* Dex Pad will be available in June 2018."

Source: http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s9/accessories/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
Guys, I have some annoying thing while using Dex. I will describe it with an example. When I start youtube and play some music on it and then I open any other app in full screen mode, youtube stops playing. But when both apps are opened in the window mode they work simultaneously. The solution is to resize apps to "almost" full screen but since there is no button for "windowed full screen" I have to do it manually. Same thing with any games. For example Lineage 2 Revolution. I keep it in a window but when I do some auto-quests I would like to switch for the browser in full screen mode but then games stops. :(

So.... maybe it is normal and it should be that way but maybe there is any workaround for that or maybe Desktop Hub could have some option to launch apps in "windowed full screen mode" this way we would have 100% multitasking.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Hmm... I think my YT doesn't stop playing even if there is another app getting full screen-ed..

Can't say about the game though, but AFAIK, it is caused by the games not optimized for multi-screen (and doesn't meant to be used in that way).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
Hello, thank you for answer.

Lineage 2 Revolution is on the list of compatible apps with Dex even on the official Samsung site.

Can you try open up youtube app + Samsung internet explorer in full screen?

Are you also using S8+ + 8.0 android?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Yep, I try opening youtube app + samsung internet explorer in full screen, no problem at all. Youtube still playing without stopping at all. (It minimizes though)

On note, I'm using S8 (GS950FD) with BatMan custom ROM and BatMan kernel (nougat version).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jabberwock:
for me secure folder crashes when being started in dex mode. Is it working for anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
For Youtube install iYTB - search for the relevant forum here on XDA.

It's a patched Youtube that won't stop in the background. There is a rooted and unrooted version.

For the games, i think it's a normal behaviour to pause when you are doing something else (e.g. answering the phone or an important message), then continue when you are back.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Thanks for the tips! It works very well!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kxdaorbit:
Works fine for me on my Note 8 SM-N950F, UK unbranded, stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
Thanks for reply, but I was searching something general, youtube was just an example. For me main problem is to be able to use 2-3 apps in full screen mode simultaneously. This would be more like a normal PC desktop experience since I have some habits from Windows and always go full screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
That´s great but since Dex team hasn´t included proxy settings for ethernet yet I doubt many banks would use it.

Right now this is still the stopper for my company.

Did You have a chance to look at adding proxy/ethernet in Dex hub?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I've been too busy with uni stuff to work on more complex features like that.

---EDIT----

Do you not see this menu under ethernet configuration settings? (I'm using Oreo beta, I'm not sure if Nougat has it).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Great find, DHCP doesnt have that on nougat. :)

Can anyone confirm if this is still there in public Oreo build?

EDIT: Just got the update myself, installing now.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Yes, the final Oreo has this option.

Anyway, I just ordered the Mirabook at $199 and hopefully in the coming months will have something more to share with you guys.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Just a quick news update.

Android P developer preview 1 has been released, but to be honest, I don't see any new additional features for developers to provide a better experience for DeX-like solutions.

Maybe we'll see more as we approach the Google I/O event.

But it seems that Google wants to still force people to use their Chrome OS devices for Android apps in a desktop like environment.

I think that alternative OEM's are more likely to feel the need to develop DeX-like experiences now that Samsung, Huawei and Razor have shown that they are interested in evolving this technology, and eventually Google will just have to accept that users don't want to be forced to buy several (limited budget) computers when they can just buy one high-end device that they can take anywhere with them and with Mirabook like solutions, the device in your pocket becomes ever more productive when on the move.

I think that by the end of 2018, we may see LG and Sony show their interest in this kind of technology, and Google will no longer be able to continue to force users to pay extra for those Chrome OS devices if the user wants to use an Android app in a desktop-like environment.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] xxaa:
I read DEX has windows capabilities as a true PC and Huawei desktop is a look-a-like.

I guess DEX is an ARMlinux has the Odroids with GPU not open.

So Samsung do the work to port Linux with DEX.

Not sure the difference between open GPU and close GPU other than for OS developer.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I now have an S9+, as I wanted to ensure that all users get a stable, fully working experience from 'Desktop Hub'.

I can confirm that the performance increase is significantly higher than the S8+.

The software experience seems to be identical to the S8 in DeX on Oreo, so you can all relax and feel happy that Samsung hasn't decided to give up on you :)

It works fine with the current DeX station, so don't feel pressured to buy the new DeX Pad if you'd prefer the device to be sitting upright in the dock like the DeX station enables! :)

Also speaking of the DeX station, Android police reports that it is now half the original price on Amazon.

if it drops any lower I may oder multiple and replace my low quality third party adapters I currently use for when I'm not at home:

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...ex-station-79-99-70-off-samsung-82-90-amazon/

I haven't had the chance to test the third party adapters yet, so I can't confirm if they work.

Obviously there is no need for me to review the phone features as you can find reviews on that online.

If you have any questions about DeX on the S9+ then let me know. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Sigh. From https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Desktop-Experience-Charger-Warranty/dp/B079TL2TGY?tag=androidpolice-20, $99.99 USD for a Samsung DeX Pad is definitely not the product that will engage the wider S8/S8+/S9/S9+ mainstream owners to giving it a try.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] LavosCracker:
oh man

I dont want to buy a S9+, Im waiting Note 9, but this makes me want to switch hahaha

I'm using S8+ with dex as my main computer and sometimes I gets really slow.

Ahhhhh I NEED TO WAIT THE NOTE 9 :silly:

edit: one more thing

How are ultra-wide monitors for dex? Can I use? is it good?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
At the moment DeX only supports 16:9 resolutions unfortunately, but I imagine that is just due to technical challenges that may come up when you are continuosly switching to different monitors with different aspect ratios and you have desktop icons positioned to the far right but then use a lower (width) aspect ratio display and see those icons disappear.

Regarding the performance, I have not seen any messages about memory limitations when playing games such as Real Racing 3, but I saw them frequently when playing on the S8+.

On the Exynos S8+ I would often see performance issues when playing GTASA and driving north along the main strip on the final island, this could be both due to the CPU & GPU.

Of course I should also note that since the beginning of the Oreo beta tests on the S8+ I have been running DeX at 2k resolution all of the time, so this may be one of the reasons I saw the S8+ struggle where the S9+ doesn't when in 2k.

Also, just remember that the S9+ happens to have 6GB of RAM, the smaller S9 has only 4GB of RAM, so the S9 may not quite see these improvements that the S9+ has.

Depending on what you use your device for and how frequently you see messages about the performance, I'd say that you may be fine to wait for the Note 9 if you want some of the Note specific features.

For the most part, the software exprience on the S8+/S9+ (running Oreo) is fairly similar, so if you are going to upgrade, just don't be expecting everything to change.

I think that they made the correct decisions for the most part, as I think that the S8+ was great and I didn't want to see them change anything other than the internals and the fingerprint sensor position, which they did exactly :)

The camera is not something that I'm all that interested in as I'm not a keen photographer, but it is a nice addition.

To be honest, I hope that they continue to stick with the S8+/S9+ design in future handsets as it looks beautiful imho, but increasing the hardware specs, battery capacity and improving the device sensors (basically all of the internals), I think would be nice.

The software still needs minor refinements on mobile to perfect it and some improvements to the DeX software would be welcomed :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] king76:
after i update my s8 to the oreo version, the Dex Max app not working for me any more and it cant getting the kodi app to fullscreen

is there is other app that can do it?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Try following the true window guide in 'Desktop Hub' and then press 'meta+up' the next time the app is open.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Update: Ethernet proxy over DHCP works great in OREO. This should open up for more companies to try the dex. Including mine. :)

Thats weird, usually the Swedish price is $ x 10 = 999.90 SKr. The Dex pad is 790 SKr on the biggest sites here.

Actually it´s cheaper than the Dex Station. I still think it should be around $50 to attract a significant interest here...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] king76:
Thank you for your reply,

I did what you wrote and i succeeded enlarge the kodi app to fullscreen but the video player in the kodi app is not in the middle of the screen...

Is there a solution?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It seems to work fine for me when I play a video from my SD card.

I used the latest nightly build from the link below to test it:

http://mirrors.kodi.tv/nightlies/android/arm64-v8a/master/?C=M&O=A

I don't really use Kodi anymore other than to test if there is any improvements for my users.

So there may be something that I am missing, maybe you have a plugin that doesn't adapt well?

Sorry I can't be of any more help.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Following the 'Rip-off Britain'™ tradition, USD $99 = GBP £99! :mad:

BTW the deadline for purchasing a Mirabook for USD $199 courtesy of Meleor is Friday 16th March. See Meleor's post on https://xdaforums.com/sho...postcount=1056 for details. That extra $100 gets you an aluminium clad mobile DeX station with 13.3" 1080p screen, keyboard + trackpad and a battery that will charge your Galaxy phone at the same time. It even has an HDMI out port to simultaneously connect to a bigger display.

After Friday, the cost is USD $299. Mind shipping and local import duty is on top of these prices.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Dead link...

p.s. I know what you mean about the British prices. :(

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*UPDATE*

I forgot to let you guys know, the DeX version on the S9+ currently is '2.5.59'.

I think that on the Oreo beta I was using on the S8+ had '2.5.55', so I assume that the S8's stable Oreo build has either a close or the same version.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Oops, sorry should have tested it. Here is Meleor's post https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74221865&postcount=1056
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
hello!

Anyone using oreo version with universal dex kernel (noxx?)?

Tbh, I have problem with it...

I tried installing renovate 9.0, 9.1, and 9.2 with noxx kernel, and it doesn't output dex mode on my hp lap dock.

Seeing that there is problems on oreo version with 3rd party dex adapter (need to plug power for dex to work), I am afraid that hp lap dock doesn't provide enough power for the dex to be triggered.

But, I also wonder why there is no "HDMI output" choice on renovate oreo ROM? (On Nougat, we choose whether the output is dex or mirror)

Does samsung actually remove the feature?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The option is there for me in Oreo
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Strange... I don't know what went wrong...

Even I have tried installing all samsung apps and other things, but the option isn't there..

Okay, gonna try on that again later :)

Thanks for the info though, that makes me have a glimmer of hope :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
I don't have any problem, even if I used Reno 8/9/9.1 and Nox T58-T62.

What Nox kernel are you using? Note that the version from XDA (T55) did't include the patch yet. You need to get a more recent version on Telegram.

Dex will start as long as you have any charge. I connect my S8 to the USB input of my speaker (normally used to power USB sticks, probably a 2.5W output - barely enough to keep the phone's charge at level), and Dex still works.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
That... Explains..

Thank you so much for the enlightenment!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] MrPhilo:
Hi guys I'm getting system UI has stopped when Dex is launched, tried clearing cache etc but no avail. Any ideas how I can fix t;his?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Have you disabled/uninstalled any system apps?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
1.) More than enough power, I've ran GTA VC at max settings whilst streaming a 1080p video and it ran both smoothly, and to answer Q3, whilst doing this it did not get hot at all, just about as warm as it would be in my pocket (Which surprised me to be honest as all of my previous Samsung devices got hot when just doing simple tasks...).

2.) 4GB is definately enough for a lighter weight OS like Android without all of the legacy bloat (compatability services etc) like Windows has running in the background all the time.

I can't comment on Excel as I don't have any large Excel files to try.

4.) Haven't tried it yet. Besides, for most daily tasks I don't need windows apps.

5?) A large multitude of things, watching videos, playing games, editing word documents, web browsing, listening to music, reading news, chatting on XDA :)

p.s all of this stuff is smoother on my DeX/S8+ than it is on my laptop. Probably because most developers when developing for Android are less lazy and think about battery life and processing power, so they make better use of less for the lower end devices, meaning that higher-end/more premium devices like the S8 can run the apps with ease.

Often windows apps developers don't seem to care so much about battery life as they're most likely connected to an AC outlet.

Android is also designed to be more efficient with how the app lifecycle works, and developers are more aware of the apps current state, so they can optimise their apps to work best in their current state. i.e. the Dex Hub app will detect if the user clicks anywhere else on the screen outside of the apps bounds and change the card views elevation to show that it has recognised that you aren't interacting with that. Also when it is not visible on screen it stops the resource monitor updates until it is next visible to reduce system resource usage. These are just some examples of how Android apps can be more effective at using the resources available! :)

I hope that I have given satisfactory answers to most of your questions.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Now that more people are getting their hands on this tech (Including journalists/reviewers), I am beginning to see a large number of positive reviews online.

Many who hadn't tried it were sceptical at first and they said they couldn't imagine that they would buy one, but once they tried a review unit they decided that they would buy one to replace their laptop as the ultimate portability solution, but they would still rely on their desktop if they need to handle more demanding tasks, although, any task that can be handled by a mid-range laptop can easily done on the DeX dock!

There are still a few people who haven't tried it who say that if it was closer to sub $100 then they would buy one.

So to conclude, the DeX can be very effective for daily tasks, the only thing holding it back is the price of the dock. If the dock was to come down to ~$75 then I think that it would be selling much more rapidly than it already is!

I would like to think that once the "release day excitement" has calmed down and Samsung has processed all of the S8/DeX pre-orders, then they may begin to think about lowering the cost of the DeX in order to sell more units, and this could help to attract people back to the Galaxy Note brand (after the N7 fiasco last year) if they can continue to improve DeX and bring the cost of the dock down and then promote DeX more to general consumers, then DeX could really be a big thing/USP for Samsung as we move forward and see this come to more Samsung devices!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nosympathy:
I'd buy one and not care about a work around so much if it were $75 lol. That's a reasonable price.

I thought a review I read had an excellent point. Samsung is living on Dex only being on the top end phone and that is their downfall. The majority of people who will want dex and would support dex are not buying the top end devices, at least not right away. Yes there is support and yes there are people, but those people are dwarfed by the sheer numbers who want to take their lower end samsung and run it like a computer because they will benefit from the cheaper price vs a medium grade laptop or desktop.

Samsung needs to bring dex to their lower end models. They may not perform quite as well, but it'd open up a whole new world of customers.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ir0nbelly:
usb switch withh dex station

so i went out and got a iogear gus432 ( usb switch )so i could switch my mouse and keyboard between my gaming pc and the dex dock. i saw a video on youtube of someone using a kvm switch made by iogear that had no trouble working with the dex. the dex station isnt picking up my keyboard and mouse when i switch it over though? it will pick it up if i plug them in directly though. anyone know a setting or anything that could be causing this? i dont see how the kvm and the usb would be any different i am using a second a third monitor for my dex so i didnt need the hdmi switch? kinda at a loss if anyone could help it would be amazing?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] samteeee:
@OP

Thank you for the app & info, very useful.

I read all the posts but one important question

remains unanswered for me is that if anyone

with "Root" & "Knox Tripped" are still able to use DeX.

I wanna know if I'm gonna lose that ability before I've done any

modification to my S8+.

Thank you.