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[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Yes, it was a great 2016 device from ZTE. Much better than any OnePlus crap I see. Hopefully they will release a follow up (it's been promised) in 2018. Will probably be called the ZTE Axon 9, as they are reportedly skipping the "8" (bad luck) and they also skipped a year.

By the way, Nubia is a ZTE sub-brand, the way "Motorola" is now a sub-brand of Lenovo. Last year, under the Nubia brand,

ZTE released stereo speaker model with a lot of the same specs as the ZTE Axon 7.

Except no QHD. They're more of OnePlus competitors. This year, they are already slated to release two Nubia Snapdragon 845 phones. If they bumped it up to QHD, it would basically be ZTE Axon 9.

And yes, some phones are not on that list. Also, LG has decided to re-brand the G7, but the list still shows it as G7. So, this list is not complete and I think there will a full ZTE follow-to the Axon 7, when it's ready.

Some of these 2018 phones will be using the LG OLED displays

, like the V30 and Pixel 2 XL do.

By the way,

Xiaomi Mi 7 (April 2018 on that list above) will have Qi wireless charging

. I knew once Apple added it, everybody and their brother would join the club. ;)

____________

Speaking of Qi wireless charging, Qi wireless has won. There were two competing specs the past few years...

Qi wireless has won. Even the competition is going to make a Qi wireless spec 15 watt charging pad. [emoji14] Which means it will also work with the LG V30.

Oh, sure, they will also include their "Powermat" specs, but so what. It's like having a tape deck that will play both VHS and home Beta. VHS won that battle. Qi just won this one. Powermat is even joining the Qi consortium.

Powermat joins the Wireless Power Consortium, touts 15-watt underdesk charging

Wireless charging firm Powermat will join an industry consortium it once competed against and announced the Charging Spot 4.0, which will enable 15-watt power transfers and offer compatibility with new iPhones.

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...rdesk-charging.html?google_editors_picks=true

Besides the link at top, more info here:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/powermat-introduces-new-charging-spot/
[Moto Maxx General] gifgof:
bought an used Axon 7 on a mint condition, really a bargain considering that the unit is really rare on my country,

It's a good replacement for my turbo, but it can't beat Turbo's battery endurance

overall I'm happy with Axon 7 as daily driver and Turbo for a backup
[Moto Maxx General] TheSt33v:
Pixel 2 XL update that no one asked for:

It has now been almost 4 months since I went from quark to taimen. I'm still in love with it. The pictures are stunning (see my cute puppy dog, attached), everything is as fast as it was on day 1, I'm running a custom kernel that is upstreamed (translation: is constantly kept up to date with the latest Linux kernel stability and security patches) and the custom roms are finally starting to make an appearance (although I can't play with them since my work email app can see through Magisk and won't tolerate broken safetynet). Whenever I see a headline that says "The 8.0 Update is Finally Rolling Out for [insert non-Pixel phone here]," I give my phone a high five for getting 8.1 on launch day. I have had 0 issues with stability and functionality. The battery is not revolutionary, but it is more than adequate to get me through the day even after suffering through a few hours of gaming. Verizon carrier-specific features work perfectly even though mine is not the Verizon model of the phone. In fact, there is technically no Verizon model of the phone. The Pixels that Verizon sells are the exact same devices containing the exact same software. Even Verizon's bloatware (which is like 4 apps, maybe) is on every version of the phone. It's just disabled by default and is enabled automatically when it detects a Verizon SIM (and yes, it is easily re-disabled after that). The only difference is bootloader unlock ability, and that is determined by a Google server-side whitelist that checks some sort of unique identifier (probably IMEI) about your phone and determines whether or not it will allow bootloader unlock. All Pixels regardless of origin will block bootloader unlock until they are connected to the internet for the first time and run this check. It's pretty interesting.

My one complaint, and I think I mentioned this before, is that it's too perfect. I have nothing to tinker with. No need to add VoLTE/wifi calling, no need to find a bootloader unlock hack, no need to even root, really. Want to theme the thing? Use substratum andromeda. No root required. Could I tinker if I really wanted to? Absolutely. Magisk works fine, TWRP works fine, there are a whole bunch of custom kernels to choose from that are all updated weekly at a minimum. We've got AOSP, CarbonRom, LOS, and modified/optimized stock on tap, and the developer of Pure Nexus says his rom is coming soon. According to the community, these roms somehow manage to be even faster than stock. I'm not sure how that's possible but like I said before, I can't see for myself until someone makes a reliable Magisk module that blinds AirWatch.

Tl;dr: Yes, it's expensive. Get one anyway. Either wait for a deal or finance it. You won't regret it.
[Moto Maxx General] NepoRood:
I hear ya man, I'm digging my OG Pixel XL, performance and battery are great. On a plus side, I'm running my beloved AOKP (8.1) and my own upstream kernel. Great pictures here too (I also attached a pic of our new puppy), I don't do any gaming, but I "chat" a lot in various Telegram groups and on Hangouts. I get 4-5 hours SOT on every full charge, which I do about every 2 or 3 days, and always plug in around 30% +/-
[Moto Maxx General] jco23:
My Galaxy S8 has made me respect Samsung.

Get great battery life, wireless charging is better, and I get to keep my 3.5mm headphone jack.

downsides: still on nougat, but don't really need Oreo right now; don't like Samsung bloatware, but the 64gb and speed don't make me tinkering; size is too big. Really want a smaller device.

Also, I can install the pixel launcher and other Google apps to make it feel more authentic.

However, the theming is quite neat.

Adhell works great, so need to root.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Just got bootloader on the LG US998.

Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Cool. We just got "unofficial" bootloader unlock on the North America open market LG V30 US998U, but not yet the US998U V30+. Unofficial because you have to hack the website menu to allow it, but the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list IMEI database does allow it.

But doing the same trick for the V30+ doesn't allow it (yet).

I'll mess with it this weekend, but I already have one code for one V30.

Now there will be more development.

Europe open market variants got official bootloader unlock back in December.

I'm impressed by the V30 battery life much like you are by the Pixel 2 XL.

I envy your stereo speakers, but I have Qi wireless charging and quad DAC... I wouldn't be surprised if next year, Google adds Qi wireless charging back to the Pixel 3 XL and/or LG adds stereo speakers to the V40.

Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
[Moto Maxx General] Hlcpereira:
I'm just looking to you guys with new toys and trying to hold me to don't be like all public services here in Brazil (financially broken) haha. By the way I'm just looking to say that LG really surprised me with the V30/V30+ in terms of screen. Here at Brazil we don't have it but I really have to say that's a great device, with none of the problems that LG had with screens in the past.

BTW if it goes like Moto Z2 Force, say bye to custom ROMs and custom Kernels. Seems most of developers are moving to OnePlus and Xiaomi Devices, since cost benefit and support of they are looking much better than another OEMs.

And since I'm talking about this detail, I'm going in that way too since I'm "in love" with Mi5s Plus. It's a 2016's device, but has a cool support from LineageOS, it's (of course) a CAF device and a big battery, that's almost the same size of Quark's battery (3800mAh), with a powerful hardware. I know that some people might don't like to lose the AMOLED screen and QHD display, for me sounds very worth it.
[Moto Maxx General] mrkhigh:
Unfortunately many of the quark users are Verizon, and Verizon will not okay just any phone.

Opo is off limits to me. That said, don't discredit HTC.
[Moto Maxx General] Hlcpereira:
You means Droid Turbo XT1254 users, but we have Moto Maxx XT1225, Moto Turbo XT1225 and Droid Turbo XT1250 also. You might say that most of here are XT1254 users, but have a lot of another users that uses this another Quarks, that aren't registered here at XDA, that came here and see those options fine for XT1254 but much far from what they are looking for. You Verizon users unfortunately have this detail, but we have a lot of those users and are more that XT1254 users.
[Moto Maxx General] mrkhigh:
That's why I said many.... Looks like I'm likely getting a Verizon pixel 2 in the next week or so. Not sure if I'll get the chance to unlock it or not. It'll be a company phone so my options are very limited.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
IF it's Verizon Pixel 2 XL (LG vmodel), the bootloader is locked. If just the Verizon Pixel 2 (HTC), there is

a hack to allow bootloader unlock.

However, Verizon being the nice people they are have pushed out "security" updates to thwart this. So, even that may not be possible when you get the phone.

Only the Google Store Pixels have fully compliant bootloader unlock. Verizon demands bootloader be locked down.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Unlocked bootloader of one of my LG V30 (64GB, silver) yesterday, flashed TWRP and rooted with Magisk.

Still setting it back up. This was the phone I was using before I got my V30+ (128GB, black), but now going back to it since it's rooted.
[Moto Maxx General] mrkhigh:
Verizon pixel 2, fully aware that if it has or gets the updated patch I'm out of luck. Options for me are very limited.

If you put the pixel 2 aside the turbo, really the spec differences are sad for a new phone vs a 4 year old phone.

I'm okay with the smaller screen, 2k or 4k on a phone is overkill, the camera is less megapixels, no ear phone jack smaller battery..

I have no idea what phone companies are attempting to build towards, but it cannot be by user demand.

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A decent phone now should be octocore, 6 gig of ram, 20 megapixel duel lens, 256 gig of space, replaceable battery 3900mah (dependant on screen size), nano coated, ip67, qi wireless charging.... List continues.

What I'd like to own is a revamped RAZR m (physical size) to meet the above specs.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Remember this?

Yes, we now have root. So, here you go:

[GUIDE][US998][TMO] Access to TMO Hidden Menu / Add Remove Bands (Band 71)

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3746384

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
Since my 3+ year old turbo is starting to finally get "old", I have started looking at new phones to replace it. So far (because of your reviews here), one of the phones I looked at is the lg v30 (I am a Verizon user).

A second phone I have been looking at is the relatively new Essential ph1.

Chazz, could you explain to me in laymen terms the difference between the two phones if the lg is unlocked and then both phones install the same Rom, i.e., RR?

Would there be lg things still in the phone that would make it act differently?

I'm not really explaining myself real well. But, there is quite a difference in price at the moment.
[Moto Maxx General] mrkhigh:
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/LG-V30,Essential-Phone/phones/10577,10548

I have no idea about the bootloaders and dev work, but the two phones are " similar " if the rom builds are complete and official there will be little difference. The v30 IS in my opinion the nicer phone though.
[Moto Maxx General] Hlcpereira:
I would choose Essential. The development already have started, with ElementalX Kernel, AOSiP 8.1, LineageOS and some others kernels/ROM+Kernel. V30 there's for now nothing or just one or another thing, but this if you look for the side of development. About the device in specific both are similar as [MENTION=4992322]mrkhigh[/MENTION] said.
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
My wife does not want me to get and hack a phone. She wants me to have one that will work all the time:D and not mess with it. But, what good is that? So, still discussing that with her.

If I don't hack, then I think I would definitely get the lg. Still have a month or two before I decide.

Thx.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Well, you can get one like the US998 V30 that you can hack if you ever want to, but also you can leave it alone.

Tell her she's coming from a flawed premise -- that unlocking and rooting has nothing to do with whether the phone will work or not. (Unless you've messed up your phone a lot...)
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Essential is missing too much stuff for me.

No QHD

no Qi wireless

no IP68 dust/water resistance

no headset jack

no microsSD slot

At least it's higher resolution than the even worse OnePlus stuff. But still, LG V30 has ALL the stuff the Essential left out. Essential is not a premium, top tier phone -- not to be a 2017 Android phone. It's more like a 2016 or 2015 phone.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
The open market US998 V30 ($675) has bootloader unlock and can be rooted. After 1.5 weeks of bootloader unlock (finally!), there's already one ROM and more are coming.

[ROM][US998] WETA 1.0 [10c][9th.Feb]

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/rom-weta-1-0-t3747290

As [MENTION=5521404]Septfox[/MENTION] said in another thread, the LG V30 is basically a straight upgrade from the Quark.

LG V30 vs Moto Quark

64GB internal memory + microSD card. My Quark already has 64GB internal memory, but many don't -- and none had microSD card.

rear camera OIS. Quark was missing that, for some strange reason, even though the Moto Nexus had it.

dual rear cameras -- one for "regular" shots, one for wide-angle

3.5mm headset jack WITH quad DAC. Quark has the headset jack, but not the quad DAC. Better audio with headphones.

6" 1440p (QHD) OLED display. Quard has 5.2" OLED QHD display, but the LG V30 has slimmer bezels -- and in an 18:9 configuration. It's not really wider than the Quark but has a taller screen, so a lot less scrolling.

4GB RAM vs 3GB on the Quark. It is smooth. Plus, it's FASTER RAM. 1,688MHz (Qualcomm Snapdragon 835) vs 800MHz (Snapdragon 805).

Qi wireless charging, which the Quark also has.

3300 mAh battery vs 3900 mAh battery (Quark). I was worried about this but LG has done some amazing battery optimization. In both the LG V30 and the Pixel 2 XL (also made by LG), the battery lasts all day.

IP68 dust water resistance vs "splash resistant". Major upgrade there.

Milspec toughness Shock Resistant with MIL-STD-810G Testing.

Fingerprint scanner, which the Quark doesn't have. It's so fast, sometimes I have unlocked and accidentally locked it back by pressing too long.

HDR10 support, which the Quark doesn't have.

Always-On Display – time, date, and notifications always shown on a sleeping screen. Not quite like Ambient Display/Moto Display, but good enough.

FM radio, which the Quark doesn't have.
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
Thx. I have been researching these two phones (and others some, too) for the last week or two. Both in Google and their websites and on here. I know the essential has had some problems getting started. They are supposed to announce the Essential 2 at the end of February (at the Mobile World Conference). I'm waiting to see what that looks like, cost wise and build wise, see if they have fixed some of the bugs that were on the first release.

I just wish the pricing was lower on both phones:).

Thx, for answering and if you have other choices or any other suggestions, please let me know.

Also, my brother in law had said that I could have (no cost) his Moto G4 that he bought for his wife (he said it's bootloader unlockable, but very lightly used. That's an option, but this was about six months ago. And I haven't talked to him about it since, so I'm leaning not to, on that one.

Again, thx.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Open Market US998 LG V30 is currently $675. But make SURE you get the open market US998, not the U.S. Cellular US998. Same model number, but doesn't have the IMEI range that will allow bootloader unlock and root. Buy from authorized retailer like B&H Photo or Best Buy.

Also, right now only the open market US998 V30 has bootloader unlock, not the sibling US998 V30+. Which annoys the heck out of me, as I own both but would prefer to use the V30+ (128GB).
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Verizon says it's locking its phones down to combat theft

The wireless carrier has been selling phones unlocked, allowing you to swap SIM cards and use other carriers. Soon, it'll lock phones for a certain period.

https://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-will-lock-its-smartphones-to-combat-theft/

FYI, for your next phone. Make sure you buy something like the open market LG V30 and you don't have to worry about this.
[Moto Maxx General] Mario0550mg:
Hi guys, hope you are doing well, I would appreciate any opinions/suggestions you give me.

This will be the fourth year with the quark, and I was thinking on:

a) Change the battery.

b) Buy a new phone (Was thinking on OnePlus 5T or wait and see what Moto G6 actual price will be for my country).

c) Buy an used phone with no more than one year or two on the market.

d) Anything you suggest guys.

For more context, I'm not thinking to buy an expensive phone (no more than 600 dollars); now Android is more optimized than ever, so it is a good point to search a mid-range phone.
[Moto Maxx General] gimpy1:
ChazzMatt, how is your LG unlocked and rooted? The Essential rooting (unlocking?) process is quite a bit different from what I am used to. Everything seems to involve fastboot every time more so than via twrp? It seems to be causing a lot of problems with people even "hard bricking" their phone.

I ask about LG because one poster said that Google and LG were doing it similarly. I have almost ordered an Essential (changed my mind), then almost ordered the v30 (Verizon's locked down version-but didn't because they kicked up the price overnight-saved me, I guess:laugh:). The six-seven hundred dollar price tag for the LG variant will not get by my wife's OK (but I'm still trying:).

Thx.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
It's just like the Moto Maxx, where Motorola gives you a bootloader unlock code based on your IMEI -- which you then flash with fastboot In LG's case, the "code" is actually a very small .bin file. Yes, it does involve fastboot to get the bootloader unlocked. But no different from how Motorola does it, for eligible phones. (Sunshine is a bootloader unlock exploit for non-eligible phones like the Droid Turbo.)

AFTER bootloader unlock, then you install TWRP and can root. Installing TWRP means flashing a custom recovery image with fastboot, but that's identical how it's done with Quark -- Moto Maxx, Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo.

With TWRP custom recovery installed, all the fastboot stuff is over. Now you can root with Magisk or SuperSu. You can flash a ROM, etc.

Verizon's LG V30 is not eligible for bootloader unlock. Only the North American "open market" LG V30, the European H930 and H930G V30+ are eligible. In the U.S. that means no carrier-branded phones are eligible.
[Moto Maxx General] dwh2o13:
Hey bud! Long time since I last spoke. Hope you're still enjoying the v30. Along the lines of the note above, I was just curious to hear what you're currently running on your phone? I spend quite a bit of time over on the v20/v30 telegram group as I've been using the v20 as a DD. Is there much ROM development or the v30 yet? I haven't been seeing much, but also wanted your take on the comparison between the v30 and pixel 2 xl?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
I have three of these phones, two silver LG V30 (64GB) and one black V30+ (128GB. Unlike Samsung and Apple, the + only signifies more internal memory and has nothing to do with physical size.) One phone each for me and my wife and "spare" I can experiment on.

But I'm in a bit of a situation. I LOVE the phones, but for North America (unlike Europe), only the V30 has bootloader unlock, and unofficial at that. Not listed on the LG Developer Bootlock website, but if you manually change the model name to US998, you get LG bootlock code emailed to you from LG. VERY strange.

But for the the US998U V30+, that "trick" does not work. The IMEI range for the North America "open market" V30+ has not been entered into the database yet.

So, I have one V30 booloader unlocked and rooted. But it's not my daily phone. I'm still using the V30+ as my daily phone, as I was waiting for bootloader unlock and root for that too. For my wife's phone, I've decided to keep hers stock. I'm using AdGuard on both unrooted phones (my V30+ and her V30), but otherwise no other mods.

Whereas the spare V30 is bootloader unlocked and rooted, and I guess soon will have to become my daily driver. Which is a waste of my black 128GB V30+, which I like better than the silver 64GB V30.

On that bootloader unlocked and rooted LG V30, I plan to install WETA ROM.

[ROM][US998] WETA 1.5 [10c][1st.Mar]

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/rom-weta-1-0-t3747290

It's a debloated stock based ROM that is optimized for audio performance.

Yes, development for the V30 line has been hindered, mostly in part by LG's lack of support for bootloader unlock for the open market models, especially the

North America V30+. The European H930 (V30) and H930G (V30+) have official bootloader unlock support but even now the US998 is NOT listed on the website. Someone discovered by accident that changing the HTML code on the dropdown menu of the website to US998 produced an unlock code.

Luckily I DO have the V30, but I really want bootloader unlock for my V30+.

V30 has quad DAC and Qi wireless charging. Also, less blue of the off-angle viewing, even though they both use the same LG OLED display. LG's OLED V30/V30+ has software optimization to prevent burn in, that apparently Google's Pixel doesn't have. At least didn't have initially -- maybe Google has fixed that by now?

Also, the Google Pixel camera software has been ported to the V30 and works very well. It's posted in the V30 forum for a reason, even though the guy says it works with other LG phones too. He has a V30 and uses that for this port. It's become one of the most popular threads in the forum as OTHER LG phone users come to the V30 forum to get it and discuss.

cstark27 Google Camera mod with Wide Angle Support V3.6 (LG G5,LG G6,LG V20,LG V30)

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/themes/cstark27-google-camera-mod-wide-angle-t3747263