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[X Style (Pure) General] lucianogm:
Maybe because Lenovo sucks at delivering new Android updates. It happened with Marshmallow, too. Only very few regions recieved 6.0.1, while other markets (including the US) stayed on 6.0. The same thing will happen here. We'll stay on 7.0 forever with no chance of ever getting 7.1.2, 7.1.1 or even 7.1.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
7.0 is perfectly fine. Versions 7.1.x don't offer anything groundbreaking. Unless you're into psudo-3D touch or sending gifs via messages.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Well behind all eye candy features is bug fixes and the such, especially performance, like 7.1.2 the performance is a slight notifiable improvement. But honestly for this the mainstream audience isn't gonna care lol. But yeah it's only 7.0 because if they made it a more recent Android version they would have to start over on some things and correct code specifically for this device. They started 7.0 around when it got released and are preparing it for now, takes a while to optimize software for a device that's not a Nexus.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Since they acknowledge the issue, is your phone been fixed?
[X Style (Pure) General] lucianogm:
What I mean is that we could have got a more recent version of Nougat during the delay, like 7.1. But hey, at least we'll have "7" on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
It's not as simple as just getting a most recent version of Nougat. They would have to start over.
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
Since they opted to go for 7.0 for their flagship Moto Z there shouldn't be any reason for them to update an older device to a newer Android version before updating their flagship . And it's not just Lenovo who does this
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
I'm praying for better battery life, my phone has gone from 5 hours screen on time to 3.5, nothings changed I've factory reset loads of times and it still gone rubbish, I have to charge this thing up 2 times a day now.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I don't think there is something that can improved the battery besides replacing it for a new one.

I think mine is worse and so far, I don't see any improvements on any of the two releases I got.

I go around with a battery pack.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
Nougat greatly improved the wife's Note 5 battery life, tho it didn't have much to beat, since her battery life went into the toilet, the prior two months or so leading upto the arrival of the Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I was referring to Nougat on the Moto X Pure and my experience with it, since this thread is about the Moto X Pure.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
It seemed you were speculating, as opposed to relaying an experience about the Nougat. I thought you were referencing security patch updates.

My bad. I was just trying to help.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
This is true as it is just the way lithium batteries age. This was the only thing that made me fret about getting this phone since the battery is not officially replaceable by the user. As it would turn out just over a year into my ownership, a buddy of mine got me a slim portable battery pack for my birthday (he got an outstanding deal on it). I live it as I don't need to worry about carrying a bulky charging cable and finding an outlet.
[X Style (Pure) General] Scougar:
TBH, all I really wanted from Nougat was for them to make the bluetooth compatibility better (As it is terrible in my car, and even phones on Android 5 from much less manufacturers (ZTE for example), didn't really have an issue.).

I am really doubting they have done anything to it though :(
[X Style (Pure) General] s27moto:
nothing happen there is no update every time i check
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
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On my Moto X during night hours is worse with 7.0, it uses twice as much power as 6.0.

It used to go thru 4-5% at night and now uses 8-10%. :(.....I don't know where the other 2% went.

[IMG="Battery usage - night"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/jojesa/Posts/battery1_zps2lxv9yeq.jpg[/IMG]
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Did you factory reset after updating ?
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
If you have updated your phone 2-3 days ago then give it some time to settle down. Also, is this a soak test build or you are one of those lucky users who got public rollout OTA?
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I was not invited to a Nougat soak test, but I got two Nougat versions already.

I might be lucky or just a guinea pig.

I will give it a couple of days and see...not feeling positive.

When I received 6.0, I saw the battery usage decrease right away, specially at night.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
any chance official 7.0 has the freakin' option to change order of navigation keys?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I would troubleshoot this as a normal battery drain issue... Install GSAM or Better Battery Stats and see exactly where the power is going. Nougat has an enhanced Doze mode, overnight when completely idle the draw should be very low, lower than Marshmallow.

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Testers really can't right now... That is one of the flaws that put a halt to testing. A factory reset essentially bricked the device, you couldn't complete the setup wizard or bypass it.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Has anyone tried changing the launch phrase?

I tried several times and I get "It's a little too noisy. Find a quiet place..."

I tried in a sound proof room and I got the same message.
[X Style (Pure) General] tmacher:
It will be available without root see here:

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...icons-or-re-arrange-the-buttons-without-root/
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Is this really stock firmware from Lenovo? If so, that's discouraging, but perhaps a factory reset would do the trick (seems like those are always advisable after a major upgrade).

If it's a custom ROM, then ****ty battery life is just par for the course. Seems like battery, camera, bluetooth, and things like that are almost *always* worse than stock on custom ROMs. Really a shame, but manufacturers keeping code/drivers proprietary is to blame.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Yeah I couldn't wait for stock firmware. But dirty unicorns has everything working but the battery life isn't as good as let's say stock. Only getting 4 hours screen on time during a school day. Stock got me around 5-6 and validus rim got me 6 all the time but is buggy at times. This firmware needs to come out so custom ROMs could catch up
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Yep, you can change the navigation keys with the Custom Navigation Bar app.

After you install it, it will guide you with the steps..

I could swap the buttons, hide status bar and the navbar like hiding the taskbar in Windows.

The pro version allows to change themes.

Make sure to have ADB installed.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
How the heck do you get 4?? I can barely get 3 on stock for a school day.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
My school has bad reception so I turn on airplane. Turn off wifi and Bluetooth scanning. Use kernel tweaks with the cpu governor settings. Sometimes I just run 2 littles cores and one big core. Didn't make much of a difference honestly. But yeah I just learned about the device and I did tweaks that made it a little better for me. I use Google plus, I Snapchat, Hangouts for my gf so that goes on all day. It's heavy use. I also have my brightness around 10% because honestly being indoors having it more than say 30 is just a waste of battery in my opinion. And on stock I used the custom kernel. But really without it yeah I could easily get 4 but going above and beyond would be a challenge. I do read a bit of Feedly but really having Snapchat in the background and such sips the battery even during standby. Honestly it must be the governor profile I am beta testing atm for a dude that's making a profile for snapdragon 808 devices.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Ahh that makes sense
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I was thinking the same.

If I was getting near 4, I wouldn't be looking to get another device.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Yeah well it matters about the usage. Since it's different for everyone people have to get phones that would suite that type of usage. And in my opinion this device is for light usage. Or watching the occasional YouTube and other media. But yeah I say I got another 2 years on mine. Once I get into college, man I'm gonna need like a one plus 3t or something lol.

Plus I've spent hours and hours figuring out a way to increase battery life so basically the more you put in the more you get out of it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
That's what I normally got on validus. Recalling hoping the new update can be optimized enough to catch up to custom ROMs in some terms. If the 7.0 update isn't much better than the 6.0.1 update I might just save my money and move on quicker to a new device.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Yeah man, I'm stuck with this phone until I go to college and I have another 3 years so I gotta find a way to make it last as long as I can.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Custom ROMs might be the way to go once this release goes. Because the blobs and adreno sources will make custom ROMs have at least the device specific stabilitys that would make them true daily driver material since the ROMs software side has been great. I'll say within a month the update should actually roll out. Idk why they say it's gonna rollout when really it's going out to a few users, it's basically still in testing phase and they are just saying it's releasing to get people to stop complaining about it taking so long.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Yeah exactly... I'm on Lineage right now and except for a slow camera (which will be fixed once nougat's out for us), it's so much better than stock. I can't see myself going back anytime soon.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Yeah and really the camera being slow doesn't bother me since people rarely use the camera ? if they did on this phone they bought the wrong phone when the Nexus 6p was also out around the same time.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Just an FYI if your tired of Lenovorola and looking into the Axon 7, Newegg has it for $329.99 with code EMCSRFRJ6.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
thanks for making me aware of the app but I'm on official stock, it seems to be for Nougat roms.... and hopefully the method mentioned by [MENTION=4822920]tmacher[/MENTION] does the job when the time comes :laugh:
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Yeah true, I just use it for Snapchat. What is the method by [MENTION=4822920]tmacher[/MENTION]?
[X Style (Pure) General] D.Spirit:
If I use brazillian IP/VPN will I be able to recieve soak 7.0 update OTA ?
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
page 27, a link.... not his method but a possible universal method for Nougat
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
No it doesn't work that way.
[X Style (Pure) General] rootzplz:
The only thing that will fix that issue is a battery replacement. It's actually fairly easy and can be done for under $35. New battery on ebay is $14. New back for the phone with adhesive pre-applied $7 on Amazon. Need a T3 or T4 bit (either works) to get the 20 screws out. There are two teardown videos on YouTube showing how.

I replaced mine about 5 days ago. SOT is up to 4.5hr now. Can go day and a half without charging if I'm not in it much.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
ahh i see
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I replaced one because a friend's Moto X got wet. He got a 3425 mAh battery on eBay. I spent most of the replacement time trying to remove the back cover...it wasn't coming off.

I might, eventually, do the same for mine.

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It's a firmware from Lenovo.

Since there is a reset bug and I'm not sure if I got the bug and I'm not resenting it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Tip14:
Quick question about upcoming nougat roll out. When the update drops is it possible for someone to make a twrp flashable image that people who are rooted, and custom recovery could flash the update / full rom. Or will I have to take the last security update using the stock recovery in order to then update to 7.0?

So in summary update my phone to the last 6.0 security and ota before flashing?

Or can I just wait for a flashable twrp 7.0 and not have to update to the last 6.0 ota.

Hopefully the above makes sense I'm just looking for a clear "this is what you need to do" so I can update my Moto pure when the time comes.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Apparently there is a new build 25.11.13 floating around. Probably to address the FR bug. Hopefully someone will capture the OTA this time around and post
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Don't bet on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Settler11:
Wait.. the Style doesn't have the update (yet)..?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No. There is no update for

ANY

Moto X as of this posting... only some testing with a small group of MFN users which rumors say is still quite buggy and has some other "issues".

There is no Nougat update for the Moto X Pure available to the general public.

There is no Nougat update for the Moto X Style available to the general public.

Is that clear enough for people? (not just you [MENTION=3554557]Settler11[/MENTION], I am speaking to everyone asking these questions )
[X Style (Pure) General] Tip14:
Well that makes my question irrelevant.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Soak test is going on (i have not participated it) but some users are giving us information's for Moto x style (not pure)

Yes there are some buggs like

you can't factory reset or you end up in installation part only

If they add up volte then it consumes huge amount of battery

Moto doesn't provide dates all you need to do is wait

Maybe tomorrow might be the day?? Who knows just keep checking and enjoy your Life

Rest info can't be provided thankyou
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Battery life answer for MXPE

With the stock rom and kernel, (but with the Xposed-based process management tweaks) my average is 3:45 - 4:15, sometimes a little less depending on signal or usage. And that's on the original battery, if I'm not mistaken.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
That's so weird... No matter what I tried, I couldn't get more than 2:30. That being said, I'm on lineage now and I decreased screen resolution to 1080p, and I'm getting 3.5 hours on average.
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
25.11.13 fixed the factory reset issue (though, no one was brave enough to test it as far I know :D). Probably this is the final build and the update will be out *really soon*.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Where you're at and what you're doing with your phone make a huge difference too. It is very hard to compare two different users.

Poor mobile signal will kill battery. It will really ramp up the radios trying to maintain a connection. Live/work in a building that blocks cell signal or just a poorly covered area, and your battery life is going to suffer.

The screen on this phone is a power hog, but the SD808 is terribly inefficient under load too. If I did nothing but use an e-reader where the cores are pretty much idle/unplugged all the time I bet I could get 7 - 8 hours screen time, maybe more if I left it in airplane mode. 4 hours is pretty typical for me with web browsing and light usage with mixed wifi/mobile data. If it was all gaming and watching videos I'm not sure I'd even get 2 hours SOT out of this phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
What's the point to add VoLTE?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
There is no point it won't be added (maybe).. they are still working on it and thats why there is no official rollout till now or they will start the roll out and after few week's or month they mighr comeup with the fix for volte and add it up ?? Who knows but they are surely working on it and if its impossible they will giveup and begin the rollout soon as there are not much bugs still remaining so keep calm and keep checking...

Ps: Do not ask for eta and all (nobody on this earth expect Lenovo knows it ) but if it won't be there by next week u will have to wait till june then ( assumption as Moto X 2k17 is going to launch on that date they might come up with update??)
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Why would I ask for ETA? I already have it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Settler11:
Ugh.. I should've figured. Lenovo is a total pain when it comes to updates. I had ONE lenovo tablet and they had so many promises with updates, changes and whatnot and after MANY months of waiting, they did release an update. Even though it came with weird things such like a smaller resolution and for some other more bugs than fixes...

I'll skip Lenovo products next time and I'm better of using a custom rom than waiting long for an update that all other flagships already HAD.

So, that had to be said. Sorry.
[X Style (Pure) General] rootzplz:
So they're killing volte on this update? Because it works fine on Verizon currently.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No, this has nothing to do with current features, like VoLTE on Verizon or TMobile... They are worried about Jio, an Indian VoLTE only carrier. It is currently not supported but is wildly popular I'm that country.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
He is referring to the Moto X style outside of the US. The x pure in the US will not lose it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Just the chipset

I've always wondered about that myth about the screen on this phone being a power hog. I always just figured that the issue rested solely on the smallness of the battery and the massive load placed on that chipset by the need to render such high resolution graphics for the 2K display.

For what it's worth though, my screen-on figures are highly video-based. It probably accounts for half (or more) of my screen-on time.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
How do I check if VoLTE is working or available on my device with T-Mobile?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
If you are provisioned for VoLTE you should have a item in Settings, Cellular Networks, there should be an option for either Voice over LTE, Enhanced Voice Services, or something like that. If you are not provisioned for it, the option won't show.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Just Enhanced 4G LTE is available in Cellular Network Settings.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
That's it. So, yes it does support VoLTE.
[X Style (Pure) General] onezi:
re

hey can you help me unroot and return to stock
[X Style (Pure) General] lilcdroid:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=69344069
[X Style (Pure) General] EdwardDX:
The nougat update is not yet available. Consider it before you clean your device.
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
Can someone change the title to soak test had started when this was posted no nougat is available yet ?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
There are literally 5-6 thread's related to this topic like seriously
[X Style (Pure) General] HaGeK:
Yes, say bye bye to nougat..[emoji23] [emoji23]
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
My Moto X decided to restart and now it does not go beyond the image of the Android robot with the red exclamation mark. I could get into Recovery Mode.

I tried Reboot but it doesn't. I wiped the Cache Partition, then reboot and then it goes back the Android robot with the red exclamation mark.

Any ideas?

[IMG="Revovery mode"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/jojesa/Posts/recovery_zpsum66dcrj.jpg[/IMG]
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
Try to boot 4 or 5 times, then it'll work.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Tried more than 10 times alreday :(
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
Since you are on 7.0 try asking in the Lenovo forums for help
[X Style (Pure) General] D.Spirit:
Surely we are not seeing any 7.0 update before June or maybe July
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
That's a joke...Right? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
Weird... It worked for others. Contact Liz then. You may get a replacement.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I PMed her more than a week ago with another question and I never got a reply. :confused:
[X Style (Pure) General] arwarburg:
I would also post here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/449/page/1/thread-id/15459
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Thanks for the tip.

I removed both, the SIM and SD card and selected Power off and it came back to live. :highfive:

Reboot System now was not working even without the SIM and SD card.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Yeah you are making huge assumptions with no basis in fact. Lol
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
I believe he is pointing towards another thread not saying bye bye nougat indeed
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Were you on feb patch or april patch (security date)

Caus if you wer in feb that's a major bug and can be fixed only by flashing new update which includes fix for the above bug mentioned

So email moto and they'll help you (maybe) or just wait for someone to put the zip file on XDA (till june i suppose)

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He's trying to hijack this thread and redirecting us to other thread
[X Style (Pure) General] qassey:
you"d better backup 7
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
So new moto x 4 is coming up by june mostly so we could get the update by June only most probably (just a theory)
[X Style (Pure) General] abense:
do we have any roms that are taking advantage of the drivers, etc of the nougaut release
[X Style (Pure) General] Hashbang173:
Not unless somebody who has gotten the Nougat update makes a TWRP system backup. Even doing adb pull /system would probably get some files that could greatly improve the Nougat custom ROM state.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Or it could mean if they don't have a stable ROM by then, they will just abandon this device like they did the Moto G 2015, and say it's incompatible or something stupid like that.

Just an alternative theory... :)
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Highly possible but i don't remember that did g 2015 had soak test?? Did they?

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No-one will do that shellfish and very arrogant people out here... If i had chance i would have contributed my soak test to make custom roms more stable... But we don't have that public here

Sad :(

But it's still not stable as some users are facing factory reset bugs.. so i don't think it'll be enough for improving the custom roms (maybe)
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No, they didn't even try... just said it wasn't compatible but we all know that is incorrect since the Moto G Play is getting Nougat and it is the exact same hardware but slower, and I can get any number of Nougat ROMs to run perfectly well on my G3 today thanks to the development community.

BTW, I don't think the current "tests" for the X are even soak tests, at least not in the US... I am thinking we are still in a small group beta test phase, that happens before the soak test... No soak test is this troublesome, by the time it get's to the soak phase the ROM is really production ready and they are just being safe by testing it in a small release. This is no where close to that yet.

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By the way... I don't call this "selfish or arrogant" and it is not sad, people who are in the testing groups agreed to a NDA, or a legally binding Non-Disclosure Agreement, personally I think following that and not violating your word is called integrity, not selfishness.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
It'd be good to contribute something instead of keeping it and enjoying it alone? It can help our community to improve more and can even be helpful for devs work easy who work hard day and night..