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[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
I went in yesterday. It's very low key, the Touch Cruise was just lying on the counter when I went in there. The staff behind the counter were pretty friendly and talkative. I learned some stuff that I'll post in the UK Availability thread in a minute.

Regarding the device, it was much as I expected, but then I'd done so much research and had an Artemis before so I didn't expect many surprises. I suppose the only things to mention are:

The Neutral/Bad

1) I was hoping to be won over by the styling when I saw it in real life but I wasn't. That doesn't mean that I hate it either, it wasn't any worse than I was hoping, it just wasn't any better either. Then again, I suspect this is a pre-release unit and might not be 100% representative of the actual manufactured unit so who knows.

2) It really did pick up fingerprints on the screen very badly. Then again, it didn't have a screen protector on it so that might help. I don't think there's really much HTC or anyone can do about this, if your going to be dragging your fingers across a transparent smooth surface then it will get grubby.

The Good

1) From the reviews, and playing with a TouchCube clone on my Artemis in the past, I'd pretty much decided to disable the TouchCube and TouchFlo scrolling when I got the device. After playing with the real HTC implementation on the TC I liked it and now plan to leave it on, especially now that this forum has exposed the registry settings to customise the cube.

2) I thought I might miss the trackball from the Artemis (I liked it) but after playing with the Dpad, once I got my brain to remember that it is now a conventional clickable Dpad as well as a scroll wheel, I really liked it and think I will find it more useful than the old Artemis trackball.

Finally, some general notes about Inkino (the shop):

1) If anyone goes there then don't be confused (I was). The address of 48 Tottenham Court Road that they have on their web site is correct but, for some reason, the sign outside the shop actually says "Sunrise Digital" (their other shop on Great Russell Street does have an Inkino sign but that's not where the TC is).

2) If anyone is ever in a hurry for accessories then they sell Brando screen protectors (but not for the TC yet) and also some other accessories, e.g. the official HTC 3.5mm headphone adaptor.

Their pricing isn't really competitive with the cheapest on the internet but if you're in London and willing to spend a slight premium for the "I want it now" factor then it looks a decent place to get it. They didn't come across as obnoxious and high pressure as some of the TCR places and actually seemed pretty enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the products.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
Great, I was waiting, for something like this before my final decision.

Thanks mate :)
[Touch Cruise General] rorydaredkign:
Myself and my mate Mark [Dark Fire] we're heading down there tomorrow probably. He got his touch 128 rom there on its first day i think. We just want to go look at the cruise lol.. not buy, neither of has enough money i think. Did you think the shop was kindof dingy?, i think i've been ther, because i recall in june only seeing one shop with an athena, and that was sitting on top of the desk, and it may well have been inkino [I was looking all down TCR for TV's.

Rory
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] Muhammad Shazil:
i am trying to download apps but it either gives me error 505 on play store but if i try apk, it tells me that this app is conflicting with another app so it cant be downloaded
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nevenx:
hi, i cannot choose network manually and networks are not showing and when i press refresh button, settings just close... Im running RR 7.1.2 and i really need explain why is that happening and is there any kind of fix or something. THANKS
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrp1375:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KurisuD631:
Today I tried to update my g vista through OTA and partway through it gave me an error saying that the update could not be completed as my phone was rooted (I had rooted it to use FX's sd fix for kitkat and the sixaxis app). So I unrooted through SuperSu went to try the update again only this time the phone said that there was no update available so I said screw it and rerooted my phone useing "lg root script v1.2" by avicohh as this was the script I had used before to root it. Now my phone crashes 15 to 30 seconds after being turned on and requires me to completely remove the battery to uncrash it can anyone help me fix this I'm on the original stock rom build number kot49i.d63110b, any help would be greatly appreciated.

I figured out what was causing the problem, it was the app root checker basic, I was running it to check the root status of my phone(something I'd never done before). I solved the issue by rerunning the root script and deleting the app without running it, seems to have fixed the problem.
[LG Watch Sport] charmz2k2:
Has anyone got any idea if this will be available in the UK any time soon?
[LG Watch Sport] kkh786:
I've been wondering the same thing since they announced it.

Getting annoyed about the issue to be honest!
[LG Watch Sport] charmz2k2:
I've jumped ship...

I ordered the Huawei watch 2 from Amazon.

Releasing on 3rd may.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
I have been checking very website I can think of since 10th FEB when LG said it was coming to the UK 'in the coming weeks'. Become a bit of an obession really now and it's driving me mad!!. Considered ordering from he US but works out very expensive. Tempted just to go for the Huawei watch but don't like it as much as the LG. I've live chatted and called LG, LG newsroom, AT&T, LG press team UK, Best BUY US, Google wear team and still no solid answer. Come on LG release it in the UK!!!
[LG Watch Sport] charmz2k2:
Hehe you and me both!!

I'm still checking but I've pre ordered the Huawei. Being delivered on Wednesday.

If I don't like it and LG releases in 30 days then happy days.

They're also giving away free wireless headphones as well with the pre order.
[LG Watch Sport] philwaud:
Got mine!

I got sick of waiting, tried some American resellers who all say the watch is unavailable in America so it seems it's a worldwide issue.

I managed to find a supplier on eBay, shipping directly from Korea. Paypal charged me a stupid conversion rate but I thought it was still worth paying £400 plus £88 import duty. It arrived five days later and I have to say, it well worth waiting for!
[LG Watch Sport] charmz2k2:
Got my Huawei watch today.

It's very nice but I'm thinking the screen is a tad too small.

It would have been nice had the bezels rotated but well worth the money..
[LG Watch Sport] matejdro:
Which model did you get specifically and how is your GSM reception (assuming you tried putting SIM into it)? I'm asking, because these US-watches does not seem to support all GSM bands here in europe.
[LG Watch Sport] philwaud:
The titanium one, its unlocked but im waiting fot o2 to send the right sim.
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
I've just brought back to the UK from the USA the AT&T version.

Great watch, works very well taking and making calls when linked via Bluetooth to my phone.

However, I've tried various nano SIM cards inside it, but with no success so far.

I don't think it is SIM locked, for it does not say so when you insert the SIM, but when you look at the SIM status, it says 'out of service' but does list the phone number/voicemail number/AP etc so again indicates that it is unlocked.

So far I've tried EE, Three, and giffgaff sims.

Looking at the frequency compatibility it should work on either 2G or 3G, but not LTE (I realise that), and you can select 3G instead of LTE on the watch menu.

It is not a deal breaker for me, but it would be 'nice' if I can use it independently with its own SIM, if required.

Did you get yours working?

Thanks,

Mike.
[LG Watch Sport] matejdro:
But wouldn't that mean that you can use it with 3G network?
[LG Watch Sport] krabman:
I'm thinking you might need to get at the apn settings, no idea how that would be done as I couldn't figure out any way to access them.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
I'm looking to purchase the unlocked AT&T through Best BUY US and have it sent to me here in the UK. Did you get yours working on EE?
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
I am coming to the conclusion that the watch is not compatible in the UK/Europe and that the info on various web sites such as frequency check, stating that the watch is compatible with UK/European 2G/3G frequencies are incorrect (900/2100) and the watch is unfortunately limited to the US 2G/3G frequencies 850/1900. I'll have another go, but I'm not hopeful.

On the positive side, it does work very well when tethered to my smartphone, both for making calls and receiving them, the speaker on the watch is very loud and clear. Today I had my Sony Xperia Ultra tooked away in my jacketed pocket, and took several calls on the watch outside in a rally field while walking around outside.

The general quality of the watch is superb, its a solid chunk of stainless steel, very futuristic and clean cut, and the watch face is large and clear, with I believe one of the biggest diameter and the highest resolution, higher than the new TAG Connected 45 even, and that still does not have a speaker or heart rate monitor!

The other alternative is the new Huawei watch 2 if you really want a 3G/LTE watch in the UK. However reports are that the build quality is not a patch on the LG, the screen is smaller and lower resolution, and no rotating watch crown like the LG which works great.

Battery drain is not all doom and gloom either on the LG, i'm easily managing a full day no problem.

So in conclusion, i'm still happy.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
Nice to hear you're enjoying using it. Still waiting for a UK release, which could be a long way off yet. Tempted by the Huawei watch 2 on amazon just not as keen on it. :pve the idea of the scrolling crown for navigation and really put off by the 1.2" screen. Trying to get any info on a UK release from any source is near on impossible. Keep us posted if you have any luck using the 3G or GSM frequencies.
[LG Watch Sport] kkh786:
What is the hold up? Not heard a word since the initial announcement! At this rate we won't even get the Style in the UK.

I was hoping to purchase as a gift in May. Not going to happen! Argh!
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
Same here but as more as a gift to myself for my birthday at the end of May lol!! Mobilefun have it for preorder and have indicated in previous correspondance with them that it could come at the end of the month. I'm not holding out much hope though!
[LG Watch Sport] kkh786:
The watch was meant to be a gift to ME from my siblings for my birthday this coming week! Haha!

I hope the watch gets released in the UK soon, I don't want an imported one with questionable warranty coverage.

The Style has been available in Canada for over a week now so I hope that means we should get some movement soon.. although I hope it's not the Style only available here like in Canada. I want the Sport! [emoji4]
[LG Watch Sport] matt126:
Hi I'm desperately trying to get hold of this watch. Have you had any luck using the GSM or 3G in the UK with the model you've got. If so which model do you have?
[LG Watch Sport] philwaud:
Try this...

Hope this is OK admin, please remove if this breaks any rules and Ill PM the details...

I got mine from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322475104669

Service was superb, it wouldnt let me use my mastercard for some reason, so I paid through paypal who charged a very high conversion rate, and there was £88 duty to pay.

I was just like you, Ive had my eye on this watch since November and I was desperate!

It is definitely worth waiting for!
[LG Watch Sport] matejdro:
Does GSM work with that watch (W281)?
[LG Watch Sport] matt126:
Sounds good. Does the GSM/3G work with that model, so you can use it independently on a UK network? Just checked with EE and they said the W280A isn't compatible.
[LG Watch Sport] charmz2k2:
I was watching this seller for a while...

They started off pricing the watch at 380 and then rocketed up when another seller came along charging higher prices..

At that point I decided to jump ship but I've still got 30 days if it does eventually come out in the UK
[LG Watch Sport] philwaud:
...and it has continued to go up as the exchange rate has bombed.

Its a bit of supply/demand mixed in with terrible exchange rate.
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
I don't think it will, looking on the Korean LG web site, that model appears to be LTE only, not 3G/2G

Just had another go with my US bought AT&T W280A, and using O2 (giffgaff), EE, and Three I get Network type 'unknown', Service status 'out of service' and Network state 'disconnected', so I suspect its only programmed for the US LTE/3G bands.

Whether it can be 'flashed' or is hardware fixed to the US LTE/3G bands, who knows?
[LG Watch Sport] jobrima:
Answer support Mobilefun[emoji20]

Hi,

We don't currently have an official release date for the watch in the UK, unfortunately - additionally we don't currently think the watch will support European LTE bands.

Yours,

Products Team

Mobile Fun Limited

Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
That's a real shame if it never officially comes to the UK/Europe.

However, is LTE (or any independent phone capabilities) actually necessary? Sure, it's very geeky, but how often are you without your mobile anyway?

The great thing is that the watch has a speaker, so you can be riding your bike, having a run, or wrapped up warm skiing even with your phone safely tucked away and be able to make and receive calls on your watch, if you so wish.

Today for example, for 12 hours straight my watch was tethered by Bluetooth to my phone. Didn't have WiFi turned on, no need, tethered to my watch. GPS turned off, again not required. Screen always on. Notifications all day and just used normally, mostly as a nice watch. How much battery was left after 12 hours? 75%, my Sony Smartwatch 3 would have used much more! So there is also an upside to not using LTE!

I have though updated most of the software, including the watch software (had to do it manually when going though the apps and noticed the update for wear) which might have made a difference to battery life since the first reports at launch.

I believe the only contender is the Samsung S3, but that of course does not run wear so can be limiting on apps.

Even the Tag 45 still doesn't have a speaker!
[LG Watch Sport] kkh786:
I'm beginning to lose hope of an UK release.

I can understand the LTE situation.. why don't they just sell us one without LTE enabled. I'd be still keen to buy one without LTE.

I need as smart watch this month, I may just get a Gear S3 as I find the Huawei Watch 2 hideous.
[LG Watch Sport] krabman:
Is there something stopping you gents from shopping Amazon US? I know I've purchased items on Amazon UK several times.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
Absolutely no update from LG on a UK release. Really getting annoying now. I've looked into importing one from the US but don't want to forsake the standalone calling capabilities and would prefer a proper all bells and whistles watch seeing as I'm paying that much for it in the first place. Was tempted to go for the Huawei Watch 2 but it just isn't as good in my opinion and I love the scroll crown on the LG. Really strange that Google store US have been out of stock for a long long time. Is there a manufacturing issue or have LG just underestimated the demand? Either way I wish they would send out an update as one person tells you it is coming to the UK and the other says they're not sure if it is. Losing my patience grrr
[LG Watch Sport] matejdro:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B06WGMS4GY/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

It looks like there are no official sellers, only resellers.

Prices are all at least 50% higher than 400$ official price

In addition to that already-elevated price, we have to pay pretty big import fee (20-30%)

LTE won't work at all.

No warranty (those all look like resellers that bought from Google and good luck sending it back to Google without permanent US address).

So yeah, this is pretty much the worst option of all. At least with the ebay you can somewhat mitigate high price issues, but you are still stuck without LTE and without warranty.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
Found this handy tool if anyone needs it, which confirms the ATT sport won't work over here in the UK: https://www.att.com/travelguide/cov...IDL=&CTN=&MNC=&DID1=&DID2=&devicenum=1&STEP=1
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
When I was trying to persuade AT&T to sell me one, eventually third time lucky, they all had stock, but when I asked if it was popular...no, hardly sold any, everyone wants an apple watch came the reply.

I therefore came away thinking it has been a bit of a flop in the US with regard to sales, certainly for At&t.

Back to the UK, O2 sold the Samsung Gear S2 3G very briefly. I can only guess that must have been a flop too or they would have sold the S3 LTE also being an e-sim watch phone, that no UK carrier has taken on board even though the normal tethered only version has been very popular in the UK.
[LG Watch Sport] matejdro:
I think it is a bit stupid and backwards that they would have to go through carriers to sell these things. I can get my own SIM and device independently, thank you very much.
[LG Watch Sport] matt126:
Ok. Very disappointed. After months of waiting been told by a LG service agent a minute ago that the LG watch sport is definitely not coming to the UK now but maybe, just maybe towards the end of the year when the networks support it. apparently the decision has been made by upper Korean management who don't want to put out a half functioning product. Oh well.
[LG Watch Sport] krabman:
I'm not sure how much LTE matters on a watch, hear me out here. I don't know all that many people who use a smartwatch but none of those I do know do anything too data intensive. This jibes with my own use. I use maps occasionally, stand alone email, instant messaging, etc. It isn't like I'm pulling big files down on my watch, streaming video, and so on. I use a beta program Tmo has here in the states where my watch has a cloned SIM and there is an application on my phone which controls whether calls are punted to the watch or not. I find in some cases I don't have LTE because I'm technically not supposed to use this unsupported watch on their network but in no case does it make any difference. The way smartwatches are used they don't benefit from LTE the way a phone does and in my own use it is meaningless. In a separate issue but one that has some bearing on using LTE, using a carrier connection has a big hit on battery life. I turn it off when I don't need it as there is little reason to leave the watch hot when you have your phone in you pocket and the watch can pull from there. Realistically while the time will vary I think most people will usually have both watch and phone together through most of the day so your window of not having LTE is only the time when you are on the watch alone. For me thats going to the gym, about an hour and some change a day.
[LG Watch Sport] mikeparkie:
Just has a chat with LG customer services about the release date. Here's what they said.
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
Still no clearer then! Two different stories!
[LG Watch Sport] matt126:
The LG customer rep I spoke to today was adamant that the UK isn't getting a release saying that they were planning a release but decided against it. I just hope I'm wrong. It would make better sense that the UK got a release as it's only the US and the UK that have android pay at the moment if I'm correct. I was just on the point of ordering from Korea on ebay. Think I'll sit on it a little longer. Maybe we'll get some info shortly. I did speak with someone at LG press dept UK who said a release date would be imminent. But I'm not holding my breath.
[LG Watch Sport] edwaine:
I think the right model for your county (and mine which is the Philippines) is the W281.

If you didn't know the Network Bands supported for this model, then here it is:

LG Watch Sport W281

2G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900

3G - UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+ 850(B5)/900(B8)/1900(B31)/2100(B21)

4G - LTE 800(B19)/900(B8)/1800(B3)/2600(B38,B41)

I've research for it before I purchase this from fms7004 on ebay from South Korea.

Here's where I got the specifications for the model:

http://www.lg.com/ir/mobile-phone-accessories/lg-W281-Titanium-lg-watch-sport
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
Certainly looks like it.

I'm sure the hardware is the same across model variants, and it's the firmware that selects the frequencies.

If only you could flash the W281 onto the W280...
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
Just wondered. Can you use the W281A with a UK sim ok. I think it should work but wondered if you might confirm??
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
No, the AT&T W281A does not work with a UK SIM out of the box.

I suspect the watch has just the LTE frequencies enabled as used by AT&T, that are not used in Europe.

The challenge is to enable the LTE frequencies used in Europe/UK. This is purely my assumption, after reading about enabling LTE frequencies on LG and other smartphones that also use the qualcomm processor, like the LG Watch Sport.
[LG Watch Sport] mattjenkins126:
is sim working in UK

Hi thinking of buying form the same supplier. does it work ok in the UK. the seller says it will but thought I'd check.
[LG Watch Sport] tomoooo:
So todays response from LG support

"I have looked into this further for you, the LG Style will be available to purchase in the UK however the LG G Watch Sport will not be manufactured to be sold in the UK market.

However this may change in the future but at this present time there is no plans to bring the LG G Watch Sport to the UK"
[LG Watch Sport] stag74:
I'm sure that response is because no UK carrier wants to sell it. Would be interesting how many units O2 sold with the Samsung 3G S2, not many I assume as they have not continued with the LTE S3.

Of course no reason why they could not sell it 'sim free'.

The reason I assume is that the public as a whole in the UK don't generally buy 'sim free' mobile phones, but rather waste their money on a contract phone instead.

Even in the massive American market it is only sold by At&t or by Google/bestbuy online, again for use on At&t mostly (although can be used with other networks).

One thing for sure if you do import one, you have exclusively compared against the great majority of iwatch wearers!
[LG Watch Sport] tomoooo:
Would love to import one from Korea, but due to Vat and import duties, price jumps to almost 670 euros. That is a little bit too high risk for me to spent, if I have not seen, tried the watch. :))). Unfortunately huawei decided to use 1.2" display on their W2. :(.
[LG Watch Sport] west2cool:
I have just emailed to find out when they will be stocking them.. I add one to the basket for checkout and it said expect dispatch 19 June.

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/lg-watch-sport-android-wear-2-0-smartwatch-p62803.htm
[LG Watch Sport] Adigal:
Does he sell the W280 Version right? Not the W281..

I will get my Google store sport watch version (W280A) next week, I live in Israel the LTE bands here is different from USA, I have idea to try to unlock the LTE bands like I did in my OP3 but I need help with someone that understand in this process,

Anyway, does someone here understand Korean language? Maybe he can buy for me the watch W281 (unlocked version of course) ? I will pay you for that, I don't want to buy from eBay for 150% of the normal price.

Thank you

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Where did you find site that sell this watch?

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I saw that seller, does this watch really unlocked? You got LTE/umts/gsm?
[LG Watch Sport] mariomsg1:
Now through the pc

Estimated despatch: As soon as we receive stock