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[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
I knew it would come ?
[X Style (Pure) General] zwodziarz:
Ehh unfortunately I'm on Moto X Style...so it may be still month or two or whatever. Thinking about Moto Z or something else Xperia XZ maybe
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
I'll believe it when I see it. There is no version number in the release notes so I'm skeptical until I hear of someone actually getting the ota or pics of the about screen with build number its hearsay.
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
I'm not really allowed what I'm doing right now, but I want to clear up this confusion.

The soak test just started (yesterday), there is NO official 7.0 as of now, only the soak test.

Official 7.0 rollout usually start 7 days after the soak test started, unless there are serious issues.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
That's what I figured. Looks like the cat's out of the bag, though: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/04/26/moto-x-pure-edition-nougat/
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
It's all fake people it's not happening until June if that.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Lol lots of know it all folks....lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
View attachment 4127929 No update, checked manually and turned off my phone as well as pulled my SIM. Again it's true or else you'd have tons of people posting screenshots of the update.
[X Style (Pure) General] Curlyfry2121:
Of course its not all gonna roll out in one day. Its gonna take more than that.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
I'm as pessimistic and disgusted with Lenovorola as anyone here, but it's fairly likely we'll see it next week.

If you go back to the threads leading up to Marshmallow, there were initial rumblings about a small soak test about 6 weeks before the OTA, which we heard in March for this update. Then, once the big soak test started in early December 2015, it was only a week or less before everyone had it.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
It's not the official. Just a soak test. It will probably take some time for the official to come out. I'm guessing late next month or June like Motorola stated.
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
That's my point no screenshots yet from anyone in this community and there's literally thousands of us that religiously come on here.

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Soak test started about 2 weeks ago regardless I'm still saying June if we're lucky if not who cares lenovo/motorola no longer have my business and that of others.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Since it's a soak test they legally can't post screenshots as it would violate their NDA. Not saying that it won't "leak out" but don't expect that anytime soon.
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
Look at the OPs original link I can't see anywhere where it states it's a soak test or maybe I'm blind.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Agreed. This is my last Motorola phone unless something amazing happens "Lenovo sells Motorola" personally I'm going with a OP5 or the axon 8 when it's released. I don't want to give up my front facing speakers.
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
For me microsd option and great battery life are a huge plus.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hitti2:
sub'd
[X Style (Pure) General] adrenatek:
I need a flashable compressed file of this. Wonder if they'll release it like they did with the original factory image. I really don't want to go back to bloaty stock just to take this ota, but I guess I'll do it. I think this puts me like 2 updates behind lol.

*Edit y'all are so hard on Lenovorola (lol) for not getting this OTA out faster....personally, I don't even care that much about updating this device past 6.0.1. The 1575 has been a durable, versatile device that I can throw any SIM card into....it's too bad Lenovo has given the idea a middle finger with their carrier contracts and such.....bleh. HTC or Oneplus will probably get my business next.
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
No you don't! The current build has so many issues, you never want to flash this one.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Did you ever get the issue after the factory reset resolved? Does the update have other serious issues within the OS itself?
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
I still can't use my phone, stuck on accepting privacy for 8 days now, but I can confirm now that the issue will indeed affect everyone who does a factory reset.

If Lenovo doesn't fix this, then it's gonna be the Moto X Apocalypse!

Yes there are other serious issues within the OS as I saw in the private community.

As you know this is all confidential and I shouldn't say a word, but the factory reset issue made me so angry (and Lenovo's unwillingness to help), that I had to share this.

After being part of the MFN for years, I'll opt out now.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Have you tried a OTG cable and mouse or keyboard? Doesn't fix the issue but get you a usable device...
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
I don't get it. I can't accept the policy with a mouse and keyboard either.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Well then i must say then go to Motorola service center as they can only help you with this

If you want to fix it by your own..

Unlock bootloader->flash twrp -> wipe everything (SD card optional)-> flash latest firmware from (claps i just noticed they removed the motorola firmware from here https://firmware.center/firmware/)-> try from here then from here (https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44735) check which is yours and also check the date

Do this at your own risk

Im sure this might work but if you've unlocked yo bootloader then you might not receive the nougat soak update again (maybe)

My suggestion is just don't hesitate and go to Motorola service centre but they might take lotta time so it's upto you
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
US doesn't have "Moto service centers", our only option is to send it in. Plus if he doesn't have OEM Unlocking already enabled, this isn't an option.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
I didn't knew that

Yes he's in a big trouble.. if he hasn't enabled his oem unlocking ...but luckily if he tries and it succeeded then it was just a luck
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
I'm not even allowed to send it to repair centers during the soak test.

I think if they release a new version, I'll be able to "apply update from SD card" (if we get a flashable zip).
[X Style (Pure) General] xphyle1971:
I've had zero issues with cellular reception or WiFi strength. Fantastic device.
[X Style (Pure) General] metaleloi666:
Nice to hear then. Is cell reception as good or better than the X Pure/Style?
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
If this is all true, those of us clamoring for the OTA might as well just forget about it for good. At minimum, it will be months before it's ready. Even then, if the Lenovo devs are this incompetent, then custom ROMs will probably a safer bet.

This is something I've feared all along, but didn't want to accept. IIRC, back when we got Marshmallow, most of Motorola's workforce was still in place. Now, we're relying on disinterested overseas developers to put together a major update for a device they had no part in designing or creating the initial software for. It's not hard to imagine that going badly. It wouldn't be at all surprising to see a half-assed Nougat ROM with a slew of bugs. Unfortunately, "this'll just make them buy a Moto Z faster!" will probably be the thought process.

Best of luck with your phone. Glad I wasn't a soak tester!
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
You are right to question their capability

Agreed. And think of the bugs that were present in the Android M software release for the Pure Edition, such as the features lost with the sound system & speakers and the display driver issues that some folks have reported having. If that was with "most of Motorola's workforce still in place," I'd hate to see what the result looks like without. I'll withhold final judgement until the official release, but it's not sounding good so far.
[X Style (Pure) General] D.Spirit:
If your phone works fine with M then it does not need any fix which means in this case updating to N.

Updates are made to fix problems. M has not any problems on LMXS or LMXP.
[X Style (Pure) General] arwarburg:
FYI I'm pretty sure 95% of people with the MXPE had bluetooth issues, that we all are hoping will be solved with the update.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
No it will just make us buy an Axon, OnePlus, or Mi6 faster. ?
[X Style (Pure) General] adrenatek:
WTF....ok screw it then I'll stick with exodus or aicp....sounds like they are sticking it to "older" device users like apple does....how widespread is this problem? and does it really put users in some kind of predicament where you can't just eradicate it with a reset? not good moto, not good.

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I KNEW this was going to turn into a problem before I even read this. Lenovorola must have fired all their old devs and thrown away terabytes worth of information or something. All they care about is the Droid line now. Not even surprising.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Just out of curiosity, what was the size of the update you got?

Mine was just over 800MB.

By the way, I was not invited to Nougat soak test. I was invited to previous versions.

I might had got the update by mistake.

I will reset mine but first I need to received a used phone I ordered to have it in case this one gets bricked.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I am sure Moto will fix this... Or worst case scrub the update entirely but I find that unlikely, it will likely be pushed back for a fix unless this one user is a fluke with the reset issue. The few other testers I have talked to generally have no serious issues.

When I said the US has no service centers, that's correct in the context I was replying to. In India and other countries, they have Moto Service Centers all over the place you can just walk into and get factory authorized service on your device, the US doesn't have that and never has to my knowledge. We have to send it to the one US repair center for service.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Source (not allowed to reveal) changelog coming soon (keep some hopes for volte) 60-40

That is soak only and its final stage only volte patch is remaining
[X Style (Pure) General] Cobjones:
Volte worked for Verizon. I assume that is for T-Mobile?

Waiting for my S8+ at this point.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Pretty much VoLTE for US carriers seems to be carrier specific settings. AT&T will only support VoLTE on their branded devices. I could be wrong and it could be GSM specific, but it seems strange that people are getting VoLTE on Verizon but nowhere else that I know of.

Good luck with your new Samsung device. Just can't bring myself to use another one of their devices again...
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
The only carrier VoLTE doesn't work on is Jio in India, it works on all US and Canadian carriers that support it except AT&T (supposedly it would work in AT&T even, but they block all non-branded devices from VoLTE and VVM).

The odd part about Jio is they ONLY do VoLTE or calls via their proprietary softphone app because they only have an LTE network using bands 3, 5, and 40, no 2G/3G to fall back on whatsoever.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Hey Acejavelin.. How do you know so much? I read you here and on Android Central, impressive.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
But i think our device support's band 40 but Motorola has blocked/locked it i suppose

Volte should be working on our device as lg g4 also has same bands/same hardware as our device but i think when they (devs) wer testing they might have got few bugs so they didn't push the volte patch when other Motorola phone's got it by early December
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Umm... thanks i think. Lol

I read a lot, tech blogs, forums, industry news, and I travel quite a bit so I have time to read and experiment. I've worked in Telecom as a technician and engineer for over 25 years... and I've ruined a few phones and even recovered some. Ok, maybe more than few. :)
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
After reading the doom and gloom, here, I think I'm going to root my backup 64GB MXPE that I intended to keep stock and use the DD 32GB MXPE as a backup.
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
It was 890,4MB.
[X Style (Pure) General] seardna:
because of the GFW....
[X Style (Pure) General] qassey:
where is the firmware?
[X Style (Pure) General] HaGeK:
Anyone who has received the OTA could share the update please?
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
No one is going to share what is most likely beta software from ma soak. Calm down and wait
[X Style (Pure) General] gokart2:
People used to share the soaks. Then I could make a flashable. But seems like that is no longer. :(
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Someone shared the OTA zip file of the M soak with me. Installed it with no issues. I'll do the same with this one of I'm lucky enough to get it.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Being as it was 8 days ago that the release notes were posted and Android news sites pushed headlines that "Nougat is here," I must admit I was wrong in my speculation that the public rollout would happen this week.

If this were following the pattern of the final Marshmallow soak test, we'd already be seeing some folks getting the OTA. I've seen no new reports or even chatter at all this week. Looks like it will be awhile, if ever.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
[MENTION=2001582]acejavelin[/MENTION] look at this
[X Style (Pure) General] HaGeK:
Please post screen on time with Nougat Rom!

Thanks
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Means nothing... Show some GSAM stats, with privelaged stats enabled, after a couple days on Nougat

I stand by what I said before, no rom will significantly change how much power the display uses. We know nougat's doze mode can be better than Marshmallow's, and other stuff could use less battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] sk8223:
Will Moto ever give us official 60fps recording in official stock Nougat? The IMX230 should support it. I have no idea why they left it out considering other 2015 and even 2014 phones came with it. It's the one thing I despise about this phone apart from the 808. Camera's great, 720p slow motion's good but not even 720p@60fps? I used to have an iPhone and 60fps was great on it. It can do bloody 4K but not 60fps. I just don't get it.

Then again, the 6P doesn't have 60fps recording either (you have to root to get it). Maybe it has to do with the 808 and 810's heat issues. The camera would probably fry itself recording at 60fps for more than 10 minutes. Ever since I started recording in 60fps on my iPhone, it's difficult for me to go back to 30. There is a difference. /rant

Anyway, since I'm getting a new tablet today, I plan to root and load a Nougat ROM on my phone by the end of next week if the Nougat update doesn't come out by then (I bet it'll only come out by early June if it ever does). I just really hope that a) my numerous heat issues are resolved and b) I can go back to 1440p resolution (provided it doesn't heat the phone up like it does on stock). Surely I can't be the only one having heat issues. Phone heats up even when I'm just browsing the web on text-based websites with a resolution of 720p. I've had good experiences with Nougat on my Nexus 4 and I'm praying that Nougat will be just as good on the Moto X.

But I'm also afraid of rooting. I'm afraid of not being able to return to stock completely. What if I unlock the bootloader and Moto decides to pull the latest Marshmallow patch (the one I unlocked it on, which doesn't exist as a file on the Internet)? I'd be stuck with an unlocked bootloader and no way to re-lock it. I'm only interested in re-locking because a lot of carriers in my area do trade-in promotions for phones and they check for root and unlocked bootloaders when you trade old phones in. I'd like to trade in this Moto X someday.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Unlocking the bootloader is no big deal. There are links on the Bootloader unlock page to return fully to factory. There is also a modified logo bin that removes the bootloader unlocked warning. Since most of these are out of warranty or rapidly approaching it there is really no downside to not unlocking IMO.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
You are the only one...

Maybe you are. I hear people drone on about this all the time in reference to just about any mobile device, game console, and computer in existence, but I have yet to actually experience it in person even one time. The case will feel warm under load as it does act as a "heatsink" of sorts for the passively-cooled chipset. If that's what you're concerned about, no software update for this device (or any other device on the planet for that matter) will make you happy. Android N will likely be no different than M in most scenarios except for possibly screen-off.
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
I bring you some good news and bad news.

The good news first: Lenovo ackonwledged the factory reset problem and they'll fix it.

The bad news: This means the Nougat update will come later.

I won't share any other information from the soak test.
[X Style (Pure) General] sk8223:
Yeah, but I don't have the stock firmware for the firmware I'm currently on as a file on my computer because it doesn't exist online (was never extracted and uploaded)--XT1572 December 2016 patch. And I don't know how long Moto will continue to push it to us.

Um... what's your usage like? I usually have 80% reception according to the icon (-101db, don't know if that's good or not) with data turned off. On an average day I'm browsing the web (reddit and this forum mostly) while listening to music on the bus. I have all the Moto apps disabled (whichever ones I can disable on stock) and AdGuard running all the time as VPN. I don't watch videos on my phone and if I do they're always low-res ones on Chrome within the Youtube mobile website. My RAM usage is around 1.9GB. Android OS is always at the top, along with system processes. The apps that I've installed and downloaded myself are always at the bottom.

Could be an issue with stock Marshmallow. Again, I'm hoping stock Nougat or a Nougat ROM helps me alleviate my heat. I'm going to uninstall all my gaming apps this weekend to see if that makes a difference. I may also change my SD card, which might be the culprit. I have an 8 gig SDHC card from 2012 in there that I used with another phone. All my music's on there because my internal storage isn't enough. I should try an SDXC UHS-I card to see if it makes a difference. None of my apps are on SD.

I used to use the Nexus 4 on a Nougat ROM before this and it never heated up while I listened to music and browsed the web using Firefox (and later, Chrome). Not sure why. Could be because I only used internal storage (obviously).
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
No imaginary "heat issues" to speak of

Similar to yours (web, email, and videos; except I leave the entire Motorola suite fully enabled). This comes out to 1.7-1.8GB of average memory usage, which sounds like a lot, but consider all of the high resolution graphics that must be cached in that memory for this 2K screen. Software sitting idly in memory has nothing to do with performance or "heat" though. Again, it is normal for the phone (or any other piece of equipment of any kind) to get warm under load.

That said, if there's rogue software that you've installed running in the background and consuming resources, then that's your problem (and also something that no amount of software updates will have any effect on whatsoever).

Definitely no issue with the stock rom as far as that's concerned. No amount of software updates on this device (or any other device in existence) will "alleviate [the] heat." Warmth is a natural byproduct of computing. Just relax and enjoy your device.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
I dont mind to wait but i need good (stable) roms not like miui (they deliver the updates fast but half baked aka unstable)

This is the quality of moto i like thats y after g3 i bought moto x style
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Problem is the software linked on the booloader unlock page doesn't work, it is the original Marshmallow release from 2015 (regardless of the date on the files)... it is too old and it will fail, and something changed with the December 1, 2016, security update that makes it much tougher to downgrade, and on top of that we don't have that factory image so some people can't get back to factory easily.

There are clear downsides, but positives as well, and I am not going to imply that the negatives or positive outweigh the scales in either direction, that is dependent on each person. I'm not going to go through the positives, those are pretty obvious with custom ROMs, recoveries, Xposed, root, etc...

There are definite security concerns, if your bootloader is unlocked you basically have none... Sure a PIN or pattern will still keep your sibling, parents, significant other, or "friend" from peeking into your private stuff while you run to the bathroom, but any one with a little time, google, micro USB cable, and a computer could access your device, even if it's encrypted, in minutes. If you actually have TWRP installed, forget it, they can access your device in seconds. Is the security thing a real concern? Yes, it is... or it should be for most people. Although it effects some people more than others.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
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[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
If I upload a recovery back up would that help you?
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Will they help you to fix your phone?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Help what, to make a factory image? No, factory images come from Motorola and are digitally signed images... just having the data doesn't help.
[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
Yeah it's the same as the backup I have, do you want it or not?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Thank you, but I don't need it... I have the December update already. If you have the actual OTA update zip file or official factory image, sure, otherwise it does no good. If you want to discuss it further let's take it to PM and keep it out of this thread as it's getting way off topic.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
To me, the bad news is not all that bad. At least Lenovo actually acknowledged​the issue so they can work on it before full release of the OTA.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
Better to stomp out the bugs than to rush the OTA.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
A guy from soak test said that we will get nougat update​ in few days with April patch and baddass boot animation (hello moto)... There is no confirmation of volte till now and as far as i think now it's high time and they should push the ota... A guy reported that when they add volte the phone gets bit unstable .. so volte won't be included from here on
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Fixing the bug properly is great; no need to rush that. I just hope it doesn't restart a whole new 6-week cycle of pre-pre-soak tests and so forth.
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
Is that factory reset bug only in MXPE and not in MXS? Because MXS users are running Nougat just fine, didn't hear such bug from them. So is it only with MXPE builds?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Yeah probably only pure users facing this issues

Style user's didn't report this issues till now so its legit that style will get nougat firsy then pure
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Or maybe no MXS user did a factory reset yet, thus didn't face the bug.
[X Style (Pure) General] trannamcloud:
I don't see anyone has N update till now, so sad
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Stop feeling sad, and read the thread.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Or maybe no one here really knows anything...lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Moto Guy:
Nice rhyme. :)
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
BTW, why are we not getting the latest Android 7 version? Why is it only 7.0?