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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=3344267]nosympathy[/MENTION]: that will surely come, it's just a matter of time, for now, we're effectively just seeing a preview of what is to come. If us with enough money to buy the S8 & DeX dock can show that there is a demand like this, once lower end processors start to become on par with that in the S8, then it would be silly for the vendors to ignore the kind of customers that you are talking about, so for now, it's just a case of, you need to be patient, it'll come, just wait and see.

[MENTION=2412617]samteeee[/MENTION]

No problems, happy to help! :)

I can't answer your question about root though, you may need to speak to the custom ROM developer's to find out more about that.

I may have enough money to buy one S8+ with DeX, but I haven't got enough money to risk the need to replace it if something goes wrong when rooting it though lol...

I'm happy to help in most ways, but I don't want to risk changing anything to do with the firmware whilst it is still my daily driver phone...

Sorry about that :)

*EDIT*

FAVOUR REQUEST:

Could I ask the DeX community to make as many requests as possible to the developer of this app to fix the bugs on the GS8 to bring the ability to boot Windows or Linux virtual machines on the device and remove the need to use remote desktop solutions instead.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.energycube.android.app.com.limbo.emu.main.armv7
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
I'm willing to send an email to the developer at dev@energycube.fr but i'd appreciate it if you told me exactly what the problem is cause i don't have my S8 yet and i don't wanna send an email without knowing what i'm writing.

Has anyone had any luck with unofficial cases and the Dex ?

I was thinking of buying something like this - attached photo, but when i saw this video i got discouraged - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPKwVG8CZ-w&t=6s
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It crashes when I try to launch the OS...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
Do you want to be a little bit more specific, which OS, Linux, Windows, if Windows, which one, 7,8,10, have you tried other ISO images or just the one ?

EDIT: How does the app itself run in Dex, is it supported ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I'll try to go over it again later, I am too busy right now...

*UPDATE* [MENTION=2317094]dusanzk[/MENTION]

I have got XP's install disc running on there so far, so the crashing must have been a mistake on my end...

But there is still the need for windowed mode (no pun intended...) support in DeX to go fullscreen (DeX-MAX doesn't work for this).

Also requires improved physical keyboard input support, as I currently cant seem to click enter at the first install screen in XP...

*UPDATE 2*

It seems that it doesn't like newer versions of Windows, I tried W7x86 and it crashed as soon as I clicked the play button (With the win7 iso selected as the CD/DVD image).

I'll try linux with WINE next to see if I can run Win32 apps through that.

*UPDATE 3*

Fails to install latest Ubuntu build...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] aartvv:
Spotify is now working on dex after the latest update!!

EDIT: Doesn't work anymore......Something strange happened.Spotify worked and the window was resizable.Only the normal apps the ones who always worked and were resizable didn't(email,internet etc).

So i took de s8 out of the dex dock and put it in again.Thereafter everything was normal and spotify didn't work anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
Alright, well i sent an email to the developer, i mentioned the app crashing while trying a "Windows ISO" and i also mentioned Dex support.

I'm surprised there aren't more apps like this on the Play Store.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] saharmali:
So far it is great I am typing up this comment using the S8+ in Dex.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Have you tried opening it via the 'DeX-MAX' app?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
I received a reply from the developer to "Try to set less ram". That's the whole context. :eek:

He didn't mention anything about Dex support either.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=2317094]dusanzk[/MENTION]:

Thanks for the update! :)

I think that physical keyboard support & resizable windowed mode are essential for that app on DeX.

I will try less RAM on the Ubuntu install later.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
Well I got my Dex but no S8 yet, hopefully in the next couple of days.

If you want let me know what happens when you lower the RAM so that i can send one email with all the info, keyboard, re-sizable window and general Dex and S8 support. I believe that proper mouse support must also be implemented right ? Right clicks, scrolling etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
So far I've only got to the first boot screen for the XP & Ubuntu installer's, XP required me to press enter, but it didn't respond, and Ubuntu just came up with a failed to install message about 20 seconds after boot...

I may try W7x86 again with lower memory to see if that can at least start, and if so, can it install...

But I've not got to any mouse optimised screens to test mouse input...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
So does your lapdock work now with Dex?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Yep, I just got back home from work and installs the latest (R66), and everything works!! Really glad..

EDIT:

I just found that the audio output to Lap Dock now have a problem.

It just went silent.

I'm pretty sure it's not the lap dock "fault" since the speaker does its job nicely when connected wirelessly..

Anyone have problem with audio-c output after using Oreo ROM with dex-patch kernel?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS*

New Play store design in DeX on app pages

Limiting the width of the app details section and enabling the top image to be fully visible when at the top of the page.

I can't help but think that this new design is just a lazy way of Google removing the stretched UI on larger displays.

Honestly, it is not very hard to make a flexible design that repositions items based on the window size, using Google's own Flexbox layout tools for Android.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Ramer:
[MENTION=237542]smiler[/MENTION]Online : Did you post awhile back that the C-Force that was only for the Switch now works as a Dex replacement under Oreo? Just got my S9+, so I'm going to dust it off in the next few days.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It worked on Beta 2, but Samsung disabled it after... :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Nice 2K desktop you've got there! What monitor are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Thanks :)

My monitor is:

Samsung U28E590D 28-Inch LCD/LED Monitor*

4k capable, but Samsung still hasn't enabled that option in DeX yet (although the original DeX station says on the packaging that it is 4k ready).

Surely my S9+ has the performance to handle that resolution?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] DeetzSw:
While we're talking about display resolutions, I'm wondering about getting a KVM switch to use with DeX. Has anyone tried using any of these (success?).

The complication is that I too have a 21:9 3440x1440 (LG 34UC97) and want to switch between pc/laptop, my server, and Dex, (4 port needed)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*PUBG running on DeX*

It has support for 'WASD' to walk, but it still needs mouse support adding to detect movement, but also to capture the mouse on Oreo.

The performance was permanently sitting at 60fps at max settings in DeX (@2k resolution) and the developer suggests that higher graphics settings are coming soon.

So, if the developer gets enough requests to properly suuport mouse input, this could be one step towards the DeX providing a PC gaming like experience.

Also note that at the moment, it doesn't support my Xbox One bluetooth controller.

If you want to try it check out the link below:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/player-unknowns-battlegrounds-pubg-t3755341
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] darkmuck:
What games has everyone tried successfully?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Keyboard supported:

GTA 3, GTA VC. Fine though keys 1,2,3,4,5 are needed to do some of the actions. But WASD work OK

GTASA - Buggy keyboard input causes camera to spin.

PUBG Mobile - only WASD to walk but no camera rotation on mouse movement (unless holding down button after clicking the screen center).

Xbox controller supported:

Real Racing 3, GTALCS and all other GTA games.

Most point and click games work fine so I won't list them.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] xxaa:
Dex has a fan inside. Nobody speak about it. Let me guess: quiet and no speed change no matter what ? So there is a way to increase your GPU intensive game, cold ! BTW not so impress with S8/9 design, a glass back is not good for thermal dissipation.

I'm a totally different user. I want cross platform software on my phone with a productive 3/4 aspect ratio and low fps to save phone energy. If I need power I would go to an x86 to compile the work done or better trough VNC. For video I would stay on android.

Very hard for me to figure if I would benefit from DEX. All the new smartphone with enough memory could run GNU and display OS via VNC server. That way It have straight access to GPU with direct X11. On developper.samsung.com they advertise DEX has "separate frame buffer" with no conflict with android.... For me it's exactly the same working way. I still have to deep more on that.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It sounds like you have already decided on what you want...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] xxaa:
Well there is limitation with GNU running within an Android app. For examples, no access to sd card (without root) and session ending with some process.

As already said here, future OS flavour may bring more display setting. That and the keyboard integration would be decisive for something practical.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] janumix:
kodi on DEX

Hi
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION]

Thanks for your great work and findings !

I already tried your kodi version posted some time ago but:

1. it stops playing when I focus on other window - it was mentioned before but really don't know if there is any trick to work around this ?

2. is there a chance to switch kodi from full-screen to windowed mode and vice versa ? Meta+Up or Meta+down work only with original kodi version.

3. when I run kodi in windowed mode there is no "drawer bar" on top of window (with min,max,close buttons), so I cannot move it to different position.

How to do with these ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It just comes down to bad development on their part.

I could only modify the apps manifest file to tell Android to run it at a default window size of 1920x1080.

Anything more would require me to have access (and time) to the apps source code to fix their bugs within Kodi.

At the moment, Kodi is likely to be using the 'focus' app lifecycle model, that pauses it when the window has lost focus, but it takes minimal change to their code to switch to the visibility lifecycle to fix this.

Kodi disables the titlebar because the developers thought that it may be a good idea to override the widows system UI layer, obviously they didn't think about what this would do to it when running on DeX.

In some cases, it makes sense to override it, take Desktop Hubs 'alternative start menu' for instance, it would be bad to leave the apps titlebar over the top of the start menu.

But obviously, some developers do silly things with these developer tools and don't think about the consequences of doing this.

I haven't used Kodi for a while, as I think that Kodi has been getting less attractive to use for years, but this bad UI is just the nail in the coffin for me...

But you can check if they have made any improvements recently on their nightly builds page linked below:

http://mirrors.kodi.tv/nightlies/android/arm64-v8a/master/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] janumix:
Thanks for answer.

It seems some already tried to push kodi team to improve it but finally they refused it as vendor specific options. As I correctly understand, windowed mode is rather pure Android functionality, right ?

I'll try nightly build and if still no update, I'll bump this thread:

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=322523
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
None of the multi-window related functions are Samsung propriotory, all of it is native Android since Nougat introduced all of these windowed mode features.

*EDIT*

I've just read their responces, windowed mode isn't exclusive to DeX, as Chrome OS has it, Huawei desktop, Razor Project Linda also along with many other products too.

This attitude from the developers just makes me want to avoid using their software even more.

All they need to do, is remove the window decor overrides,

and add something like this to the manifest - Samsung provides a better way, but this adds compatibility with all Android desktop devices:

Also to fix your problem with the app pausing on window focus loss, they just need to replace the lines 'onPause' & 'onResume' with 'onStop' & 'onStart' respectively.

And thats it!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] janumix:
I tried nightly build and almost replied in kodi forum but ..... you were faster ! :)

Thanks !

That was exaclty that I wanted to post - freeform windowed mode is not Samsung specific options, as also described here: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/multi-window.html
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] subjectdenied:
solution for mouse capture in game streaming clients on dex

fyi, mouse capture in oreo dex-mode is unusable for using games streaming clients like parsec, moonlight, shadow, ... so here is a solution to get mouse working still

- install vpn like hamachi on the server, create a mesh-network

- install hamachi as vpn on the phone, make sure the gateway is set to 25.0.0.0/8 (to get mesh-networking)

- install virtualhere-usb server on android

- install virtualhere client on server

- set usb-server to reverse-connection, use hamachi-assigned ip of remote server

- in client "specify usb-hub", in advanced make sure "reverse connection" is checked and add the ip of your android-device hamachi assigned

- open parsec, moonlight, shadow, ... open the virtualhere client, in the device tree navigate to your mouse, enable it

- dex will loose the mouse, but will starting with oreo shows a touchpad on the phone

- at this point the mouse is available on the remote-server, however it is invisible, so use the dex touchpad to get- this works pretty well, maybe a bit slow (reaction time wise), but on the client there is a setting about transfer-rate of the usb over net device, i didnt play around with the value yet into a game, once in the mouse appears
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
does this mouse capturing thig on oreo work for android games?if yes, how?

I heard its ctrl+shift+z but it doesnt work for me. I am on s9 oreo port on note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] subjectdenied:
no, it doesn't, samsung was successfull in failing to bring one of the most useful features oreo is shipping with not to dex in a usable way, when this should have been in their nougat stock-rom already, taking into account that dex is marketed as desktop-replacement. it seems to work in hdmi-mirroring, but for moonlight for an example (honestly it is also a shame it is the only remote streaming application right now, capable of doing mouse capture) the mirroring mode is way more slow than in dex. btw there is not much new in oreo on note8 when it comes to dex, it was more advanced already in note8 nougat stock rom, than it was for s8, but nothing groundbreaking new in oreo rom
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
I REALLY wish that dex would safe the window postitions and sizes because every time I dock and undock my phone I have to rearange everything again. Its really annoying.

Also I always have to set my keyboard to my language (german) again after every dock/undock.

also: is it possible to trigger the power menu without pressing the buton on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] corb06:
TeamViewer not working in DeX anymore. Pretty much useless for me now...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
And I have problems with the Youtube app. :/

The Youtube videoplayer is stuck in some sort of phone mode and the bottom controls for the video get unaccessable, because they are hidden behind the taskbar.

"Force stopping" the app worked for awhile (for getting the old UI layout), but not anymore. I sent feedback to Google through the Youtube app, hopefully this can get fixed as soon as possible.

This was the only way to watch Youtube videos on Dex since fullscreen videos in Chrome browser are broken and you get a black screen and Samsung Internet browser allows maximum resolution of 720p for videos.

Guys, things are getting worse and worse by the day!! What's going on with all the developers, including those of Google and Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Desktop Hub provides a keyboard shortcut 'Meta+Esc' which displays the power menu.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
this app is not really usable for me because when I grant it accessibility for enhanced mode my phone/the scrolling gets kinda laggy when I am not in dex mode
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It was recently updated to detect if it is in desktop mode and if not, it will block any input deection.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Anonymus91:
Any news related to that game launcher update with keyboard and mouse mapping to touch?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Unfortunately no... :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Anonymus91:
Any workaround for Dex Station keyboard & mouse to touch mapping that doesn't require root? Also I've sent a few suggestions in Samsung Members app, it might not hurt a few others to do the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
was there an update mentioned?

---------- Post added at 00:50 ---------- Previous post was at 00:28 ----------

there isnt even a working solution with root. I am rooted and tincore doesnt work in dex mode (its super buggy always anyways) I guess its because the touchscreen is not active.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Try SkyTube meantime while Google/Samsung get their act together. See my post https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=75360369&postcount=1445 for details.

Definitely having second thoughts on updating my Note8 to Oreo when it becomes available in the UK. Might hold off for a month or two to allow patches to appear (fingers crossed) and I have time to resolve problems.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Anonymus91:
Found a keymapping solution that works with Dex and requires no root. If anyone is interested it's called Octopus in play store and works fairly well except for some reason I can't use left click to fire in fps games even though the button it's recognised, as a workaround I can map keyboard key to shoot :D (note 8 running Android 7.1). Hope it helps and have fun with it owning everyone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
can anyone shed some light for me on the Netflix issue.?! haven't been using Dex for a while and turns out that on Oreo after factory reset its not working in full screen mode even after turning Labs On and when trying Dex Max it won't recompile... actually when you choose Netflix, message appears something about unexpected exception occurred and Java not been found.. do I need to use some older version of Netflix? is this the Oreo thing?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Hi SmilerOnline - just updated Desktop Hub to the latest version and like the new Open app window size options on right-clicking within the alternative Start menu. Great for launching stuff like SkyTube in full screen and Desktop Hub seems to display and operate faster too :D

There are some artefacts on my Note8/Nougat like scrolling up and down the app list will result in items not rendering (blank spaces where apps used to be) and spurious checkboxes appearing within the Auto-Launch app list (again on scrolling through the list).

Anyway, the real question I wanted to ask is can you apply these operations on the Desktop Hub auto-launched apps as well? Sure the configuration window will need a redesign to allow a drop-down option for each app and having the left/right side of screen (Meta + left cursor/right cursor) as additional window sizing options would be great additions to have.

Taking it a stage further, if provided the top left x, y co-ordinates and window width/height values, could Desktop Hub auto-launch an app followed by applying custom window resize/placement on screen? I'd pay for that!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Thanks for the feedback.

I've had a little bit of time to work on Desktop Hubs start menu because I managed to finish some of my Uni coursework over the weekend.

But adding the window positioning and restoring window sizes across sessions would require a database to maintain all of that data and automatically removing excessive data upon uninstalling apps amongst other things, which could prove to be too time consuming for the time being.

As we approach the end of May, I can begin to focus more time on this kind of stuff, so I can only apologise for the wait.

The issue with scrolling causing some items to not display correctly seems to be an Android multi-window related bug as it also happened in the start menu on phone mode when in a windowed state, but the problem went away when I forced it to use a fullscreen mode on the phone UI.

When I get the time to, I would like to further investigate the cause of this problem.

And as I mentioned, the start menu now has support to launch in phone mode, though this might not be useful to many, you can add a shortcut to the home screen by holding Desktop Hubs icon and dragging the 'Start menu' shortcut to the home screen.

In DeX you cannot drag these shortcuts to the desktop from the apps context menu, so it is possible to click the Desktop Hub title at the top of the start menu to generate a desktop icon to launch the start menu with a mouse click.

In DeX mode, if you hold an app icon from within the start menu, you can drag that shortcut to the desktop.

But in phone mode, I have set the long press action to launch the app in a windowed state, which I find useful for simple apps like the calculator. :)

Also when using the search bar in phone mode, it will bring the icons to the bottom to make them accessible with one hand, where as in DeX mode they stay at the top as this is not a problem in DeX mode.

Hopefully these additions will be welcomed! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Wow - I wouldn't have known any of this new phone functionality until your post. While you could transition an app into a windowed state in Nougat by running two apps in split-screen state, ensure the app of interest is active (blue border), touch and hold the middle partition line and then tap on the windowed icon, it's a real faff whereas Desktop Hub's start menu makes it incredibly accessible. PiP YouTube and BBC iPlayer videos while in phone mode has never been easier! :good:

"Desktop Hub" is really a misnomer now as this is becoming a serious phone App drawer alternative as well...

BTW thanks for the insight (again) on what it would take to develop new functionality and you are doing a full/part-time university course as well (probably holding down a job at the same time). Respect.