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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Full screen All Apps has been present for Note8 since August (version 2.3.62 on Nougat 7.1.1). Not really an improvement and Desktop Hub is way better (doesn't ignore the first letter typed on the keyboard e.g. typing 'maps' to launch Google Maps). What is the DeX version number on your Oreo SM-G950F?

Can you switch on the new trackpad feature? https://www.sammobile.com/2017/11/02/whats-new-android-8-0-oreo-part-7-samsung-dex-enhanced/

According to https://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s8-oreo-fourth-beta-arrives-with-bad-news-for-dex-18512050/, the new software stops third party (cheap) adaptors from launching DeX. How short-sighted is that?

App developers will only implement right button menu/functionality, keyboard, mouse scroll wheel, always alive (app doesn't suspend itself on losing focus) and multi-window support if there is wider adoption and the Samsung DeX docking station is too expensive for the mass market. DeX Pad needs to be way cheaper for people to give it a go.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Hey no option to switch on mousepad. It automatically activate when no usb mouse is connected, and it worked very well 2 finger scroll... but not comfortable when phone is standing...

Hub version I have is 2.5.62View attachment 4417655

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
anyone encountered this? just got oreo on S8 (official) and decided to test Dex.. keeps on bootloop between Samsung logo and Samsung Dex logo.. deactivated Dex Max and Desktop Hub, the same thing.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Do you have any devices connected to the DeX stations USB ports?

Also are you using the official DeX station or a third party adapter?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
mouse in usb.. always official.. I don't fck around with bootleggers. I'm thinking maybe to wipe data in Dex software using BK Disabler.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Thanks for that. It seems to confirms that the Samsung onscreen trackpad implementation is portrait (not landscape like the Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Razor's Project Linda) and the ports at the top of the DeX Pad render (real device to be revealed at end of month) has been designed for portrait placement either side of a keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Can confirm if i tilt the dex station in landscape the mousepad even work in landscape and portrait, it Auto change..

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Unfortunately I'm not sure what else to suggest...

I don't like reccomending to others that they should try wiping, but if I was in that position, I would probably try wiping the DeX Home cache, if that doesn't work, try cleaning the device cache from the recovery menu, and then finally if all still fails, then I would personally look to wipe my whole device.

Luckilly if you do have to take the last option, as long as you have recently backed up your google and samsung account data, they are pretty good at restoring most of the vital stuff, its not quite as bad as back when wiping a Windows PC having to manually go through reinstalling everything one by one...

Oh by the way, you haven't tried disabling any system apps have you? i.e. the Samsung keyboard (that caused me problems before when trying to launch DeX).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
I stand corrected. Looking forward to seeing how well this will work on a DeX Pad. Many thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I noticed that I need to enable screen rotation when in phone mode to enable this to work though...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
I found the issue... somehow I thought that Andromeda Substratum might be causing it and it did (never happened on substratum nougat).. Uninstalled all overlays, and reinstalled 15 by 3 at a time except Wings Fonts apk for substratum... works fine now..

p. s. so I guess we won't need Dex Max anyomore..

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the idea that it was one of the Andromeda overlays came to me when I was taking of Dex my S8 and I saw SystemUI stopped for a brief moment, so I figured it was the issue. all solved. because next step would be factory reset, I was 2 seconds away from doing it.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Strange, I run it and have no problem with it..

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Good to hear that all is fine now! ?

I don't think DeX MAX has ever made sense since you can achieve the full adjustable window stuff with the correct system settings. And still get app updates for all apps.

When I next get chance to, I will look into adding the steps to the true window guide 'clear recent apps and restart device' at the end of the guide. As some people are unaware of this. I added steps to enable force resizable activities during the Christmas holidays as that was not a DeX level change, but rather an Android level change, I originally assumed that most users would be familiar with that, but unfortunately no, so I've now added that ?

Hopefully you can achieve everything, or at least most things by just using system level tweaks. I hate the need to modify something like an app, as that likely just introduces more problems.

If you like the on-screen widgets feature of DeX MAX though, that may make sense for some. ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Well for some strange reason I can get full screen in Netflix app. Has the top bar visible, so need to start Dex Max and activate immersive mode to hide it..

Or missed something?

What I can remember I was hidden before i uninstalled dex Max!

So now needed to install it again...

Or maybe remember it wrong

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Well got an update now on dex hub and I saw the Netflix stuff got a meta-o so need to try it out.

Thx

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah I added a 'Meta+0' shortcut to put a black overlay over the title bar when you are in full screen so you can hide it using this, but as soon as you exit it will remove it for you automatically to save you having to mess about with the keyboard to turn it off.

This should at least stop it from bugging you during movies whilst we wait for Netflix to fix this immersive mode issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Yes was super!

Huge thx:)

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Anyone got winehq to start Oreo? Just getting a black screen after it loaded,

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] corb06:
Im unable to select 2560x1440 when I have DEX plugged into my 3440x1440 screen. =(

DeX has grayed that option out, and only 1920x1080p and 720p is selectable.

My S8 is updated to Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Same for me?

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
you think it could be the hdmi you're using?! regular hdmi cable capability of fhd if I'm not mistaking... could it be the reason, can the system scan and see it.?!

4k capable hdmi maybe needed...

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] corb06:
Tried a 4K, hdmi 2.0a cable but still same grayed out option. I have the Asus PG348Q ultra wide gaming monitor 3440*1440. Sadly I dont have another monitor to test with that has the exact 2560x1440 res. But Why does 1920x1080p work on my ultra wide?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Well when I start my satellite box, and go in settings with the same hdmi cable it say well see picture

So I know the cable support it. Still grey out on Dex?

And TV 65" 4k

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I have the same issue.

All we can do for now is bug the developers to fix this...

You can check out new builds at the link below:

https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/?C=M;O=D

p.s.

I have the same issue on my Nexus 6p (running Android 8.1).

I believe that it is just a problem with all devices running Oreo+
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
I just figured out that the dex station does not enable the fan when its in mirroring mode. Really annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
I don't know if it was mentioned here, but this might be interesting (translates to BIG) :D

I'm looking at the Oreo kernel (CRAP) source code, and it mentions near the DEXDOCK a DEXPAD accessory too, which will start the Dex desktop.

So it seems that a laptop-dock type accessory is about to be released? :fingers-crossed:

Fingers crossed!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
No, its just this:

[IMG="DeXPad"]https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=100&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas%2F1017eddb3e6ac557c2673c111973faa2%2F206109635%2Fdex-pad01.jpg&client=cbc79c14efcebee57402&signature=f5abf60e59f52426585119c25e3fafcfe62526b4[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Conito11:
Guys i want to ask something

Is there any way to zoom in dex mode? Im on a app which zoom in or out but just with fingers. I cant make zoom with the wheel and cntl+alt+ + is useless for the app.

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS UPDATE - LINUX ON DEX*

Could Samsung charge for Linux on Galaxy smartphones?

Samsung has been emailing people about 'Linux on Galaxy' being renamed to 'Linux on DeX'.

Also the email requested that recipients complete a survey about Linux on DeX, which contained a question about whether the recipient would be willing to pay? and if so, how much?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Woah, that's exciting news!!

Well, I really hoped they won't give a subscription price or such for having it.. But at least, it shows that Samsung still haven't dropped the idea and continue to push it..

This is my first android phone that I still hyped even after a year using it!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
To be honest, it was very time consuming to implement just a basic solution, and at the time, I felt that time on development could be better spent elsewhere, as I'm a solo developer, I couldn't implement such a large array of features in such a short space of time if that was to continue slowing me down.

I may look to improve the zoom controls eventually, but at the moment I have time consuming priorities that need my full attention.

If there is small changes to be made that I can implement/fix in a few hours, I can try to work on those, but the trouble with the zoom controls is the complex algorithms that need to be created to identify where the app is on screen, the app windows width and height, then try to simulate the touch input in the hope that the positioning will be correct, and I don't have access to info about the mouse position, so I just have to try to use extreme measures to guess which part of the app/screen you are trying to zoom into. Hence often the 'Ctrl+Alt+ +' screen zoom may zoom into the wrong part of the screen.

Later in the year, when I have more time to spend on complex functions, I may put the time into this.

Sorry that I can't find the time at the moment.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
I'm curious why doesn't Hub activates bluetooth anymore.. started after updating to oreo.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Thanks for giving us a small insight into how something like pinch to zoom is challenging to implement (no information on mouse pointer location). The fact that Desktop Hub works so well without desktop API hooks from Android or official support from Samsung is credit to you, sir.

Conito11 - have you tried to double-left click-and-hold down mouse button before slowly moving your mouse to zoom in/out? It is the equivalent of double tap screen-and-hold method with your finger (where there is app support).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I've just tested it on the Oreo beta (I don't have the release version yet), and it enables bluetooth for me as normal.

On the rare occasion, the device has been known to take a little time to notify Desktop Hub that it has switched to DeX mode.

Hence I find it useful to have the DeX startup hub sound, as it can notify us when it has switched to the DeX configuration (or phone on disconnecting of course).

When using a bluetooth keyboard, I think that it would be very annoying to have to continuously press the first number of your device pin to know when bluetooth is enabled and connected.

At least with a startup sound, you can dock your device and it can let you know when its ready to interact with.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
I have the original release, and it activate bt when I connect phone to Dex station..

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
this is how it used to be..

I simply placed S8 into Dex, notification sounded, Bluetooth switched on, I hit space on keyboard to bring it back to life and it would connect... all of that was done almost silmatatniously..

now, - no sound, no Bluetooth and obviously no keyboard.. got to activate it manually.

p. s. Hub is not optimized.. Whitelisted... maybe I need to re-install..

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nope... same sh*t.. reinstalled Hub.. dead, none of the settings (sound, Bluetooth etc) work.. wtf.. it was perfectly fine before official Oreo.

maybe I need to enable some Bluetooth services on startup... but no sounds coming through as well.. hm... mystery...

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I will have to see if it affects me when I get the official Oreo release build. But at the moment there is no problem on my S8.

*Edit*

I see that it doesn't affect others with Oreo.

So, I think that it may be a small problem that potentially could be fixed by clearing your recent apps, uninstalling Desktop Hub, power off your device for 30 seconds then start your device again and install the app again.

This may seem extensive, but I imagine that if there is a problem, clearing the system memory could help to fix it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Well tried it again,

The pictures on top is when reading from phone and no bt on.

Pictures middle is when docked to Dex,

Pictures 3 is when taken off the doc..

It activate bt, and when undock it closed bt as it always done.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
YYYEEESSS!!! I managed to hack the Oreo kernel, so Dex will launch with any HDMI adapter!

More information in the Dex without Dex hub thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
I just made some tests on Oreo Dex.

Strangely it seems that it has some limitations/bugs compared to Dex on Nougat:

- Some apps stopped working on Dex (like Solid Explorer Classic)

- Some apps that went fullscreen before (in Developer mode) stopped to do so (with Labs enabled): like iA writer They now work in full screen. I don't know why didn't it work the first time.

- When playing videos in Chrome and go fullscreen, the video goes black after a few seconds.

Do you have the same experience? Note that I'm not using the stock rom, but Renovate Ice with Nox kernel.

I'm glad they implemented the touchpad on screen. It needs some learning (not as easy to use as a laptop touchpad; and unfortunately they didn't add right button to the screen) but it can be useful when traveling (you don't need to take a mouse anymore).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lestander01:
Has anyone try an extension usb c cable, so you can have the doc at the TV, and use the phone as trackpad from the sofa or so?

A bit hard use it as trackpad when in the dock

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Tried an USB C extension cable and it works. At least on nougat version, since I haven't tried the oreo one. But I think it should work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dequantavious:
I have the same issue with full screen videos in chrome going to black. I'm on Oreo as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Chillac99:
Hi! Sorry if this is not the place to post this. I want to buy the Melopow M002 from Amazon UK because I heard it works. My question is this: will it work on Oreo? Can someone with Melopow confirm? Thank you in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
As it stands right now, final Oreo doesn't change anything in terms of adapters compatibility. If an adapter worked with Nougat, it will work with Oreo.

I am still on Nougat, but I have Melopow M002 and it works really well for me. I expect the case to be the same with Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] pimikiel:
If someone was an extensive user of ExaGear programs (all of them) on nougat, then dont update, coz they are not working on oreo.

All of my configured collection of games and programs are now garbage and S8 lost its bonus functionality with oreo :C. No more RA2 without laptop.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Update from Miraxess who will be at MWC this weekend https://miraxess.com/mirabook-beta-test-mwc18/ where the deadline to purchase a Mirabook for $199 ends on 16th March. See Meleor's post on https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74221865&postcount=1056 for details.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I'd be interested to see if this (PUBG) plays well on DeX.

At the moment it is only available for Android in chinese, so I'm not sure how to start the game on DeX.

PUBG Mobile

[YOUTUBE]Uq3B1chDffc[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
I found a workaround for the fullscreen video bug in Chrome. I found out that Samsung Internet is not affected by this bug.

(Another good surprise was that Samsung Internet switches to desktop mode when in Dex mode)

So I'm using Samsung's browser in Dex mode and keep Chrome otherwise. I hope that this video bug will be adressed soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
S9 DeX video:

[YOUTUBE]DQBpW-zWMXY?t=34s[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
As far as I've seen, it is the same dex output like the S8 oreo one, isn't it?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I don't have Oreo stable just beta at the moment.

But I don't see that keyboard on the phone screen.

There is a different wallpaper...

But I hope to see the DeX experience being the same across all DeX enabled devices.

Otherwise it may become a problem eventually for developers looking to support DeX.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
S9 DeX promo

[YOUTUBE]wfrPgkSDBYI[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] duchian:
nah.. physical mouse is must-have for that gaming. I will stay with standard Dex station + mouse and keyboard
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Agreed, if want to use for gaming needs mouse..

Although, using it without the need to bring out keyboard and mouse for office presentations (which I use a lot), really helped me :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] forcedv:
Will the S8 dex feature be updated to work as mouse and keyboard (like the new S9)?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jabberwock:
rightbutton = 2 finger tap

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Yes I can confirm it works. It even adds the touchpad function when ther is nou mouse connected. The dexpad function rotates between landscape and portrait if you want. (on all 4 sides!) This is especially conveniant for M002 users because you can place the phone flat on its back which is not possible with the original dex stand.

Pinch to zoom works perfectly in some apps. A lot of apps have full screen support, although some content inside those apps are full blown instead of scaled.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The one question I have about that new DeX Pad is, does that USB connector allow you to push it down to flatten the pad when not in use, to enable it to fit in our pocket?

If not, then I'm not sure that I could say it adds any greater portability than the DeX station, as it would still require that you carry it in a bag of some sort rather than your pocket.

If they have added this ability, then I may look to switch to using one of them to take with me when I'm on the go.

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I do have to say, a lot of the press are reporting that DeX has all new features on the S9/DeX Pad such as the new 2k resolution option.

But that is available on the DeX station alongside the S8 when updated to Oreo.

And technically, the original DeX station says that it supports 4k, so it's only the software on the phone that needs to add 4k support.

The DeX Pad offers nothing new other than the form factor of the dock.

So anyone looking to buy a official DeX dock should buy whichever is more suitable for their needs, don't worry that one does more than the other as the press would have you believe.

They just seem to have not used DeX since the initial release last year.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
I decided to manually update to Oreo.

What a disappointment! So many limitations and bugs.

1) My 3rd party adapter is no longer working with DeX if there is no power source. With nougat I could use it without any power source, so I didn't have to carry too many things with me.

Now, I will need to additionally carry a usb cable and the power plug. :(

2) With Oreo Google implemented mouse pointer capture, but DeX has a bug, which prevents the functionality from working. Outside of DeX it works fine for some reason.

The app in question is Moonlight (game streaming app) and it is open source. There is a github issue that discusses the problem (back in December while Oreo was still in beta). Back then the app developer said that he will report the issue to Samsung, but it looks like Samsung have done exactly nothing. :(

3) App shorcuts, which I used quite a lot while I had my Nexus 6, don't work, when the icon is placed in the taskbar. They work only on the desktop icons, which I don't use. :(

4) The fullscreen app menu is horrible.

5) Limited support of resolutions, aspect ratios and UI scalling.

5) Nothing is done about missing Bulgarian keyboard layouts. Not that I expected anything.

Really not much is different after more than a full year of development. The best they come up is Dexpad, which is not much better than what we currently have.

Absolutely disappointed in Samsung. I am not sure if my next phone will be from them. I cannot spend so much money and get basically no support in any way. Almost everything that moved the platform forward is thanks to SmilerOnline and he is one person against the whole team of Samsung.

:(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] forcedv:
What third party adaptor are you using maxnix1?