yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chaps:
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/

Edit: tried the app and selected .net 3.5, and it's still a no-go with Lights.exe. So it's NOT a .net issue.

Perhaps the issue is with Lights, not the drivers. Are there any other 'window mode' d3d/ogl es demos?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MB300E:
Same here, what i noticed was that i got a lot more info of the crash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chaps:
You are right. Heres my crash log from Lights;

ExceptionCode: 0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress: 0x01191130
Reading: 0x78f160b8
Faulting module: ahi2dati.dll
Offset: 0x00001130

at IDirect3DMobile.CreateDevice(Int32 Adapter, DeviceType DeviceType, IntPtr hwndFocusWindow, CreateFlags BehaviorFlags, D3DMPRESENT_PARAMETERS& PresentationParameters, IntPtr& device)
at CDirect3DMobile.CreateDevice(Int32 Adapter, DeviceType DeviceType, IntPtr hwndFocusWindow, CreateFlags BehaviorFlags, D3DMPRESENT_PARAMETERS& PresentationParameters)
at Device.Init(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters presentationParameters)
at Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters presentationParameters)
at Lights.InitializeGraphics()
at Lights.Main()
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] draxredd:
Here's the link to the changer.

http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=265615&mode=linearplus

BUT...

this application address .net version regarding running

applications

, not the version used by

windowsCE

itself...

So i stand by my former statement, you need a cooked dotnet3.5 ROM for this to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
I just flashed to Dutty's Diamond V1 ROM and can confirm it working.

I will be testing its D3D capabilities.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] atomikpt:
ONLY TOUCH FLO 3D (MANILLA) TO WORK AND KAISER HOLDS ON ONE MORE YEAR!!!!!!!

AAHHAHAH!!

THANKS PPL!!!!

AND HTC SUCKS BTW.. Diamond? AHAH dont buy it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
umm translation?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NarSan:
Is it after the release of the drivers can be expected touchflo 3d on kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] someyungguy:
Works great on L26 diamond V9. Thanks for the effort, keep on trucking!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] atomikpt:
with touchflo 3d you will have a kaiser that is exactly the same as the Diamond (except size and screen resolution).. with KEYBOARD and STORAGE :D

it's just my thought!

let the developers do their work! I will keep the kaiser :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] atomikpt:
well i've installed manila for qvga but still runs 3.10 FPS..

i think it isn't using 3d drivers..

anyone can help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] atomikpt:
if we manage to get the drivers to work with manila i think it would work..

anyone knows the dll's of the drivers or something like that?!

in manila there are 2 dll's: dwmapi and libGLES_CM.

I'm not really good at this, but just giving it a try would be nice :cool:

the manila version i'm using is this!

If you want to read more check out this

post

and this (for developers)

KEEP WORKING/HELPING!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
I have tried a series of roms with these drivers, but so far my favorite is still dutty's 4/29 without the drivers.

funny thing about 4/29, is it actually runs lights.exe without the drivers installed, dutty's rom has D3D, and the newer wm6.1 roms dont have it. lights.exe cant detect D3D on the newer roms. However when i install the drivers on dutty's 4/29 rom lights.exe now cant find D3D.

All I can hope is that in the future the drivers will work on more roms and not just the newest wm6.1 roms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nick Collision:
D3Ddemoapp

Lights.exe works on L26 V9 w/radio 1.58.25.17 as does this included D3DDemo mentioned in an earlier post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mkrle:
anothe conirm for dutty's diamond v1 - it works and it looks nice :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Candanga:
Hi there!

Running:

Duttys WM6.1/WWE 04/29

Radio: 1.65.14.06

Protocol: 25.81.40.02W

lights.exe worked "OK" without the cab file (laggy, but worked).

After the cab, I cant run lights.exe (could not initialize direct3D. This tutorial will exit). I also tried running pocketnester and all the ROMs run like at 3x the normal speed. The emulator locked the phone in landscape mode and killed the sound. lol .. solved with a soft reset.

Cheers!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
I'll post some more clarifications and such on the site tomorrow (got business to attend to today).

---

omikr0n Sorry about the missing credits for the lights.exe , will be corrected!

---

I'll see if I can load up one of the official ROMs tomorrow and mess with it 'til I get some D3D app to work, as indeed right now it's more a proof-of-concept thing. Anyone know what D3DMDemo requires (if it's .Net, which CF version?)

Again I want to stress that the OpenGL ES driver is very sensitive with the setup calls, which MAY be the cause the modded Manilla's still do not work. Don't lose the faith though - it requires more time and investigation.

Also, as someone pointed out, some HW/A apps do use 2700 specific calls from what I remember... Also requires some more investigation :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anaethelion:
HTC TYTN II FR (Orange Branded)

ROM: ROMeOS 3.1

RADIO: 1.65.20.29

PROTOCOL: 25.88.40.04H

HARDSPL: 3.56

Lights.exe : works flawlessly ^^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
Thanks, but it's not necessary, since it's only slightly altered and compiled MSDN sample.

BTW: I compiled the remaining MSDN samples (can be found here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms181014(VS.80).aspx) and most of them work. I will look if I can correct some bugs and will post binnaries for you all to see. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
So text rendering doesn't work. Run the attached example and see yourself.

@Chainfire

Could this perhaps help a bit in futher driver development?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
I have also found what causes some applications not to run.

The driver does not seem to support DepthBufferFormat other than D16 (16-bit depth buffer without stencil channel) and MultiSampling (any other than "None" fails to load).

Setting both of these properties to values different than described above throws DriverNotSupportedException at D3D device creation time.

Trying to set to full-screen mode throws InvalidCallException (with HResult = -1925379988 which I have no idea what it means) at D3D device creation time.

Once the D3D device is created though - I have not yet experienced any errors whatsoever. It seems to me that D3D driver is working, just have some limited functionality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajmagi:
official Dopod Asia

RUU_Kaiser_HTCASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe

error:

0xc0000005

0x013f1130

0x789b60b8

DUty's 29 April V2 Cube

fail regardless the radio ....

tutorial now exit

hmmm if only I can upload error report txt...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ycavan:
I can also vouch for d3dmdemo running on my tilt w/ romeos v.3.1. The only problem I have is that I don't know how to shut the program down... lol. Had to soft-reset my fone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vj4:
ok the d3d demo on page 200 runs fine on mine laggy when i get a text but other wise very smooth. im runnin l26 v9 raido in sig orange branded tytn 2 will try 3d text and report bck in this post.

yeer 3d text loads but i get a load of red white and blue text on screen but is unreadable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tim4:
Same problem with Candanga on my HTC Touch Dual... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nick Collision:
I had that problem initially as well, but after the soft reset and relaunching the program, it was able to close normally.

If the program were running 100% there should also be text in the upper left hand corner of the screen displaying the FPS. That text is not visible on my Kaiser. See here http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/08/07/Direct1.html that is a screenshot of it running on a Treo 800w, the device the program was pulled from.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bubek3:
The programme following logs with mistakes which caught me in the enclosure - Net Framework...

They will help in something maybe...

Official HTC WM6.1

rom: 3.29.464.0 PLK

radio: 1.65.27.56

SPL: 1.81

Kod wyjątku: 0xc0000005

Adres wyjątku: 0x012e1130

Czytanie: 0x78ba60b8

or

Kod wyjątku: 0xc0000005

Adres wyjątku: 0x01351130

Czytanie: 0x78b860b8

Sorry for my english :/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Could someone test this app on one of the official ROMs that Lights doesn't seem to work on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] loubega:
project1

Hello chainfire,

I get the message:

"Access violation. Press ok to ignore and risk data corruption. Press cancel to kill the program."

What should I do now??? :confused:

(I use the official german HTC-WM 6.1 ROM)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Seems to be some sort of security measure on the official ROMs that are not on the cooked ROMs. We're still looking into it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] loubega:
project1

ok, thanks for your work... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
so is it not possible to instal;l this with WM6? am i forced to use non official windows mobile 6.1 roms now? i been waitin for tmboile or att to drop the 6.1 upgrade but they still havent..and i really wanna use these drivers...so is it not possible to use it without upgrading to 6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] snoo74:
Access violation on Kaiser's 3.29.408.0 official ITA , forcing app has ctd effect
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] acehole:
thought I read it won't work with shipped 6.1 roms

only cooked, worked on mine (see signature)

So even if the shipped 6.1 comes out it won't be better than cooked.

They are still working on the drivers anyhow and won't do much good yet.

Cheers to them for the progress up to now, I have a 2 yr contract on mine so, chainfire, Thank you for all your hard work getting this far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyraxiate:
Thank you

I just wanted to also thank Chainfire and all other developers working on this matter. You guys are Gods! Even though i am eligible for an upgrade and can get whichever new HTC ATT&T decides to carry, I plan on keeping this one until they roll out a 4G network. The Kaiser is certainly a more than capable phone as it is, but with all your hard work, we may get these puppies to last at least another couple years if all goes well!

Well, I'll quit my ranting, and will continue to test, bench, and post my findings to help in anyway i can ( being that I cant really program hehe).

Thank you ALL again and keep up all the hard work. I know 99% of us here appreciate it ( although some are acting like asses and not being patient lol )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] seelion:
same here

same rom ;(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] d112:
is driver finished? When?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] btbeeston:
I think it's fairly safe to assume that as it hasn't been announced as being finished it isn't yet! As for when, well these things take time and I am guessing the answer will be something along the lines of "it will be finished when it's finished".

Having said that, some amazing progress has been made recently and I would like to add a big thank you to all those involved, and keep up the good work, it is appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DaveShaw:
Not to sound like I am flaming, but what exactly is the point in this post,. If you read HTCClassAction.org you will see that there is still more to do and no-one has given an ETA. Why, because the dev who is doing this, is doing this for love, not money, in his or her own spare time for the benifit of the community. No one has asked for an ETA, because they appreciate the persons hard work and are grateful someone it doing something.

@Everyone else, please don't degrade this thread by trolling this issue, unless you have something valuable to add.

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tak.japan:
Hi Just wondeing what are the programs/software that I could benefit with this cab?

Also, what would be the easiest way to install this? just flash to a rom with it installed already?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
I don't know of a easy or a hard way to install a .cab file, you just install it. And if you ask how to install a cab file you WILL get flamed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Um Can you not read for yourself? All the answers you're looking for are in this thread and not too far back. So please take the time to educate yourself.

I can't understand your Senior Member status.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fared:
he asks a lot of questions instead of reading?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Must be in another forum. We have our senior members trained.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
New driver package on site!

New driver package on site!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
Nice downloading it now. Shame I flashed when it didnt work on custum NL rom. otherwise I would have helped you out with testing project.exe.

Edit: Program lights.exe does start up. It tells me:

Driver;

Desc: microsoft Direct3d

Mobile Reference Driver

Id:0

Ident: 9c59509a-39bd-11d1-824c-01c04ad90dc8

Name:d3dmref.dll

Vendor:0

next is this as we all saw:

Hardware Rasterization: False.

hardware T&L: False.

Using System Memory.

-------------------------------

It takes a long time before lights starts. Also the graphics are very slow. kinda weird though when all HW works.

Rom L26 v9. radio 1.65.20.29

B.t.w. Is this a version for custom roms which need to be tested?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aksd:
Awesome work chainfire works on the SEA offical ROM :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Hmm something definitely went wrong there, it's using the software driver instead of the hardware driver!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
Oops your right. Has to be "true". I'm going to reinstall again. Maybe just a bad installation.

Edit: Now it gets worse. I did a proper reinstall. So after deinstalling soft reset. Install again and soft reset. Lights.exe doesnt start at all. Get an error: A Native exeption has occured in lights.exe.

Edit: details tell

Exeptioncode 0x0000005

Exeptionadress 0x03fa0060

Reading 0xxebffd234
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] draxredd:
Official WM6.1 HTC FR rom

NIKI radio

hardspl 3.56

.NET 3.5 soft installed

Lights.exe WORKS (hardware t&l = true)

keep up the good work, and great idea to have included the test apps in the cab (only problem is they hard quite difficult ti shut down ^^).

cheers !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bronx:
sir! does it support full screen yet??

sir thank You sir! :D

br

bro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] slovoflud:
EDIT: RescoExplorer bug

guys, can not install the CAB... :( what's wrong? simply doesn't do anything when i click on it...

any sugestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] j-zero:
Strange,

after installing the updated driver my lights.exe just shows a messagebox with "Could not initialize Direct3D. This tutorial will exit." and doesn't produce a .NET exception-error on my german NoThrills rom.

cya

j-zero
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
First cab worked fine on Dutty's Diamond ROM

I installed latest ROMeOS 3.5 - it comes with first cab preinstalled - lights.exe worked fine.

I've uninstalled (remove programs) the first cab, installed the updated cab - now none of 3D test apps run.

Most of them show security violation errors.

Lights.exe tells me:

"A native exception has occured in Lights.exe" blablabla..

When I click details, it tells me:

"ExceptionCode: 0xc000005

....

Faulting module: coredll.dll

...

at

IDirect3DMobile.CreateDevice(....)

...

at Lights.InitializeGraphics()

at Lights.Main()"

When I do DLL CHECKER - after about 30 seconds it tells me "Dlls check finished"

Should I try to reinstall? Or go back to old cab?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Exekutor:
New Driver Pack works on 3.28 Taijak GER v2 rom.

lights (using t&l) - ok

traingle (gl) - ok

d3d demo - ok

dll check finished - ok

only Text3D looks wierd... O.o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
damn still doesnt work on dutty's 4/29 (unoffical wm6.1). "Could not initialize Direc3D. This tutorial will exit."

however project1.exe still works, but scored a lower framerate, it scored 13fps this time, last time it scored 22fps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nenadr:
Works on Stock ROM 3.28.405.0 WWE

Hi

just to report:

todays drivers cab and applications are WORKING on HTC 6.1 Stock ROM

ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE

ROM Date: 05/02/08

Radio Version: 1.65.17.56

Proto version: 25.83.40.02H

SPL: 3.28.HARD

DLL_Check gives me "DLL Check finished" after about 12 seconds.

1. Lights(D3D) give me:

Driver:

Desc:

ID: 0

Ident: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000

Name:

Vendor: 0

in first dialog box, and

Hardware rasterization: True ; Hardware T&L: True ; Using Video Memory

on the rest of dialog boxes, and the object is spinning very fast on blue background.

!!! The Lights gets STUCKED if TyTN II goes to dimmed state of display or suspend !!! NO WAY to kill it from QuickMenu's TaskManager, had to softreset or reboot using Quickmenu reboot option

2. Text3D started but showed NO text just some Blue, Red and White shapes looking to me like "horisontal tetris figures" on black background (sorry for a bad description english is not my native).

!!! Text3D totaly frozed my TyTN II after going to dimmed state of display or suspend !!! Had to softreset !

3. Triangle started and rotated multicolor triangle and gave me 53 fps at the end.

!!! Triangle totaly frozed my TyTN II after going to dimmed state of display or suspend !!! Had to softreset !

4. D3D Demo started anf rotated multicolor cube and yellow dot (probably a ball) around the cube.

!!! The D3D Demo gets STUCKED if TyTN II goes to dimmed state of display or suspend !!! NO WAY to kill it from QuickMenu's TaskManager, had to softreset or reboot using Quickmenu reboot option
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
Looks like I gotta upgrade to a 6.1 ROM

Any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] darkblue68:
IT works with officila 6.1 french ROM !

Thanks a lot.

All is working except 3d text
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Can anybody confirm that it works on ROMeOS 3.5 (latest)?

Also, could anybody post or point me to first driver cab? It worked fine, but the updated cab just doesnt work for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
FYI, that ROM shouldn't work because it's not really based on the released WM6.1. That ROM of Dutty's is mostly WM6.0 innards, IMO.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
ROMeOS 3.5 looks like a great rom to start with, IMHO fastest, prettiest and most reliable ROM out of all I tried. But that's just my experience. Also, seems that latest updated cab drivers don't work on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] snoo74:
HTC last Official 6.1 ita ---> all working except Text3D. Good job!!! (...and .net CF 2.0 compliant =) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anaethelion:
It doesn't work for me neither on ROMeOS 3.5, giving .net errors on tests.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
I believe these are program problems. The drivers probably aren't designed to run through power-saving/screen-off. The programs are supposed to reset the screen going into and exiting power-saving (if GLBenchmark's code is any indication), or at least lock the OS from going into power-saving, but since these are just tech demos ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nenadr:
Yeah, I tought so myself, but just wanted to give as much data in report as I could.... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Prob go to old cab. Is there any other dll named?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
Doesn't seem to work with Death V4. None of the test programs work with it either on mine ie. Project1, D3DDemo, and With lights.exe I get

are there real useful programs out there that use these drivers like games or navigation software?

BTW I use Hardspl 3.56 with the niki radio 1.65.24.36
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Chiles,

I get the same error with ROMeOS 3.5
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
ROM feedback

Any other results?:

stock HTC WM6.1: works

Diamond V1: works?

ROMeOS 3.1: works?

ROMeOS 3.5: broken (NOT based on WM6.1 official release)

Death V4: broken

Dutty 4/29: broken
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
can't wait for this to finally happen.i'm actually workin on manila to work without drivers and maybe my results plus this progress will make manila speedier than ever and with less space consumed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Praygo:
Yeah, this isnt working for me either with RomEos 3.5 It said it had to uninstall the old then install the new.... Then none of the d3d tests would work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kramnekcnerf:
I have romeos 3.5, hardspl56 and radio 65.21.

Out of the box the light program works but slow, when installing *old* drivers it works really fast (update >25 fps, based on tl lighting experience, the project1 demo works as well, the text3d demo does NOT run and the other programs need a warm boot before they run AFTER i tried to run text3d.

Hopes that helps...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Can anybody upload the older drivers cab? Can't find it anywhere.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bio88:
Do you guys think thisll eventually work for accelerating TomTom or Windows menus, for example?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anaethelion:
Here you go, this one runs fine on ROMeOS 3.5.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lukers:
"old" drivers for Kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fisha21:
I thought that ROM came with the package built in? Certainly, the Lights program ran perfectly fine out of the box for me, without needing to install any of the stuff from the CA site. The initial message I get also indicates that hardware acceleration is being used.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
True, but I uninstalled the drivers that came with the ROM to install the updated ones, which do not work on romeos 3.5, unfortunatelly. I'll try to install the old cab now.

Update: Installed the original driver cab (automatically uninstalled the updated cab) - lights.exe worked right away at high fps.

Something in updated cab makes it incompatible with ROMeOS 3.5
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] someyungguy:
The updated cab does not work on the L26 diamond V9 also. I did the dll checker it came back ok, but none of the test apps work all getting errors on start up. I'm going to load the old cab and see if they still work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] someyungguy:
Same here the old drivers still work. Must be something in the new cab.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Memnoch30:
Updated CAB works on an ATT Tilt running the latest stock HTC 6.1 ROM finally! Great work guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Just an intermediairy response...

we're aware the fix for the official ROMs broke some chef's ROMs compatibility. For those interested it has to do with a mutex handle that has to hijacked in runtime. The old cab did it one way that worked with some ROMs, the new cab did it in another way that seemed safer. However, different DDI versions in new cooked ROMs rained on our parade.