yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
are you positive? I follwed steps exactly on htcclassaction site and it loads like it wants to works but terminates and leaves the error on the today screen. where can I find the dll?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pricefix23:
Working great for me on Dutty's Diamond v1 - my jaw dropped when I saw Lights working PROPERLY for the first time!!!! So smooth!

(previously I'd had almost no movement on Lights with stock T-Mobile UK WM6.0 ROM and some jerkiness with the earlier July 22nd driver package on Dutty's Diamond V1).

Many thanks - keep up the good work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
If your ROM is that Dutty Hybrid v2, then either it's too old, or not binary compatible with KaiserGL. pre-release Manila quitting like that is a sign the driver couldn't start up. Does it run if you put back the original software based libgles_cm.dll that came with Manila?

You can check your DDI.dll by copying it to your PC, and doing a Properties on it, and looking at the Version tab. It should have a File Version that says 3.28, 3.29, or 3.55 (the latest AT&T/CHT? beta).

Lights.exe is actually the benchmark program we use to test that things work or not.

The KaiserGL driver

really depends

on HTC's changes in the WM6.1 official release, so it won't work with any rom labeled WM6.1. It's like running Win98 with an XP skin and wondering why certain stuff doesn't work.

Anybody know what is the DDI.dll version in L26v9?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
i guess i'll wait for the official 6.1 release as well when the drivers are completed along with manila being exact compared to a diamond or touch pro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
ROMeOS v4 works, but not GLBenchmark

The included test apps work fine, but when I try to run GLBenchmark.exe, it says

"The file 'GLBenchmark' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one or more componenets cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."

I can't remember where I got this GLBenchmark, but I don't think it's a certificate issue since I'm running ROMeOS v4.0.

Is there anything special I have to do to get GLBenchmark to run?

EDIT: nevermind, the CM version works. Is that the proper one to use?

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lifanus:
Same problem here. Garmin DK1 Final
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Technically, CL or CM is supported, but maybe GLBenchmark is hardlinking to a dll, so CM is the only one to choose.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
is it at all possible to use the drivers on unofficial wm6.1 roms? like dutty's 4/29? the new wm6.1 roms dont support quake, quake 2, and duke nukem.

I really dont wanna make my games faster if i have to sacrifice 3 awesome games..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Check your DDI.dll version. Otherwise, do you have a link to Quake exe/pak so it can be tested to see why they're incompatible?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kraize:
Mikey please for the love of god. Give up Quake! Every post! :rolleyes: Get a new game to be addicted to. Or go for some porn. That'll take your mind off things. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hjlow:
couldn't agree more :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] YorikR32:
Donated 10Euro. Haven't tested this yet, going to do my first Kaiser flash tonight or tomorrow. I am donating on principle as I believe that getting to here deserves rewarding, even if I haven't seen it yet..

Confirmation number: 5R663023AS852890H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lifanus:
Mikeeey, I can see you are a hardcore gamer, I think Ipod Touch would suit your needs better :P

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u1Ftp9-3bUo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kvci1vTXyUo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
:(

haha, who says i dont already have that?

My DDI versions is 3.14.0.0.

here is the pocket pc version of quake and quake 2:

http://www.herz-power.de/pq.php

at the bottom is where you can find the downloads, i dont know which one I used, AUX1 or AUX 5. one of them makes it so the "exit" key is the camera button.

fortunatly he offers his source code.

here is the demo version of pak0 for quake:

http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake/index.php?game_section=demo

here is the demo version of pak0 for quake2:

http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/index.php?game_section=demo

I will try something new. flashing hyperdragon III and replacing my old DDI.dll (unless it doesnt let me) could someone upload their DDI.dll from a rom with working drivers?

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
so nobody answered the question...does this driver package work with duttys 4/29 hybrid 6.1 rom? isnt duttys an official WM 6.1 rom? somebody said its unofficial...how is that possible? is it because its an older 6.1 rom? are the newer cooked roms only the official 6.1 roms? I need to know because im about to install these roms and i need to know, somebody help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
thanks for the suggestion lifanus but I'm really against apple, I really dont like apple and apple products. I wont use an iphone or itouch, unless they actually make a device that has a keyboard and buttons. I cant handle screen only, quake 3 doesnt look like much fun when you are very limited to what you can do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
yes it is the real wm6.1, but it's not the wm6.1 based off the official "kaiser wm6.1 upgrade". The upgrade that HTC offered us. Dutty's 4/29 is based off wm6.1 from other devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
so will the clasdsaction sites driver package that came out 7/29 work with duttys 6.1 hybrid?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bouaroudj:
No landscape mode

Really Great !!

I believe drivers still don't work on landscape mode, may be this is why the dinosaur test on GLbench is soo laagy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ladytoast:
3.55.0.0

Not working for me either using L26 v9. Same symptoms as others posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
So what's the best ROM so far with the latest drivers?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bjd223:
Also the Iphone is a video player first, and a communications device second. The kaiser is a communications device first, and a multimedia player probably third to productivity.

The kaiser has a 400 MHz CPU with a 274 MHz Co-CPU. This is great for a communications device, because it doesn't fall apart when you have your radio going crazy. I have seen some very fast phones slow to a crawl when pulling data hard. Luckily I have not had that problem yet with my kaiser.

Anyway anything for video is better than what we currently have. So these drivers are still a great addition. Also once they get them working well, and start optimizations we will see even greater gains.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
OK, trying it on RoMEOS 4.1 beta 2 and it works nicely. Landscape/portrait switching is now instant. No improvement at all in TomTom though, which probably means the program is run entirely in 2D mode... Here's hoping that once they get the 3D drivers to a point where they can start on the 2D side, TomTom will stop crawling.

Absolutely awesome job so far on these drivers though. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Stop freaking out and install it and find out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] slovoflud:
haha :D Amin to that! :))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bratag:
Installed on Hyperdragon IIIr. Test programs all worked. Downloaded and ran the glbenchmark CM (wasnt 100% sure which one to use) Tests ran ok for some things (for those quake heads the demo of a game looking very much like quake worked really well). A lot of the tests didnt display anything on the screen - that being said - it didnt crash nor fail. No result at end given though :(

All in all great progress.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kapollo:
Hi,

great job with porting linux kernel, is there a chance that it could be run on the Keiser (meaning the Android and the Linux).

What do you mean with the Android's user space driver, is it a loadable module (what about kernel ver deps), or some kind of nasty hack? I'm not much into Android so if it's a stupid question don't kill me :)

and as for the Keiser's drivers great job :) i just wonder what will be the response from the HTC hehehe. I'll give them a try as soon as I'll get that damn ActiveSync working ...

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kapollo:
hah it works

Hah i got the defiant activesync to work finally

and i've just tried the drivers (29/07) : well it works on my :

ROM 3.29.464.0 PLK (WM6.1)

Radio 1.65.16.25

Protocol 25.83.40.02H

Triangles gave me about 52fps, the text is blocky and unreadable, the lights demo do nicely, the D3D demo is well ... it works but turning it off is a pain in the ass, it looks like it almost covers the entire screen, but only the top bar and a tiny scrap of vertical pixels on the right (somehow i managed to kill it thanks to task).

Nonetheless great job thumbs up!:D

Edit:

I've just tried the IGolf2 and as far as I can remeber from plying it before the drivers upgrade it works a lot faster now

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] akirax:
Hi all!

Good Work!

But I think that the most important is the 2D drivers.

When we will have the 2D drivers?

Regards!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wyrm:
just a quick jab in the eye of HTC (talk about shooting fish in a barrel...):

Free for PC and for anyone lucky enough to have a fast PDA.*

......................

*Meaning, if you have a QVGA non-phone device, and HTC didn't make it, you should be good.

We aimed to make the game for all decent PDA's, but HTC (a whopping % of the new devices out there) just decided to go the slower, weaker route with every new device they made, Sorry.

(after PDAmill Game Studios)

Pointless, I know, but still funny as hell :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I don't know if it's been posted but, I've been able to get the OpenGL version of Quake 3 Arena to run on these drivers. This is the version that was released for the Axim a couple years ago.

With some basic mipmapping turned on, and little else, the frame rate is between 4 and 9 fps.

It looks gorgeous, but it's hardly useful. The only thing this proves is that the OpenGL abilities of the Kaiser or somewhat limited for more complex OpenGL ES tasks. I can't even beleive it actually runs.

I'm not going to go through how to make this work but I'll provide a few important steps.

There are 2 versions floating around out there. You will need the executables (exe,dll's) from the earlier version to get anything to work. You will need to use the pakconvert from the newer version to correctly recompress the pak file(s). You'll have to modify the packconvert script if you are just using the shareware q3a to indicate you just want to recompress the one pak file instead of the 9 the full version has. Also you need all available memory. This means no Quick Menu, no Total Commander, no HTC Home, no other unnecessary background programs. Creating a shortcut into your program files folder alleviated the need of a file browser to launch it, thereby saving ram. It's best run after a soft reset.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fared:
I dunno, WHEN are YOU going to create them?

They are going out of their way to develop drivers that the providers failed to distribute....it isn't a matter of importance in general or to you, but rather what they WANT to do. Be grateful that they are doing anything at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] akirax:
First of all, I said: "Good Work!" (you read?)

Second, I´m not say that MUST develop 2D drivers. It´s only a request if it´s possible to do, and when if it´s possible (is a question).

Third, my english is very bad.

Four, I´m very grateful with the developer.

Fifth, are you ok? if not, read again my post and go outside to take new air.

without acrimony,

Regards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PH03NIX-ZA:
I know when we get 2D drivers... when we storm the htc offices and get them out of Peter Chou's old htc tytn II ;)

The all original tytn II with WM 6.0 doesn't run these drivers at all, with tube saying it cant run d3d, and triangle gets a result 3 with an fps of -1031 :)

So i've noticed that one of them best roms for these drivers so far is RomeOS 4.1. I'ver heard good things so far, and a lovely real world benefit of INSTANT orientation flip! (landscape / portrait). So hows it going so far RomeOS users? any bad experiences at all? and how is the triangle fps? I'm thinking of trying out this rom myself, but I love the diamond theme so much!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DOHCtah:
Let's get this thread stickied. it seems the latest breaking news is coming from this thread. The htcclassaction website is the most coherent and convenient one-stop website for information, and it's also generating the most internet hype out of everything so far.

Good job all! :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Devilbilly:
Don't forget French's help during American War of Independence :D sorry for the off-topic I couldn't resist it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
Guys, I think it's working:

http://mobilitytoday.com/news/HTC_Driver_Problem.html

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/17/htc_chipset_anger/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Now if only a big site like HardOCP, THG, Slashdot or Digg picked it up... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
Knowing enough law do be dangerous (from Business Law 101), it might be that if HTC publicly admits (ie, press release) that they have indeed found a problem, it could be an admission of guilt and they would be on the hook for damages. Pure speculation, on my part, but it would make sense from a business perspective for them to try and limit their exposure. After all, their primary purpose is not to have happy customers, it is to make money. The only reason they care about making us happy is so that we will spend more money for with them in the future and tell our friends how cool they are.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
Please don't feed the trolls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Just as a side note, on average (since site launch, so it's more now) we pick up a new (unique) visitor every 20 seconds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
Two reasons to not go after them directly.

1. Their most likely response will be to point the finger elsewhere. They made a sale to HTC and have no control over or say over how their product gets used.

2. Even if qualcomm had a hand in it, the problem is between Qualcomm and HTC, not Qualcomm and the consumer, so it is up to HTC to get the resolution. If they do not get the desired resolution, HTC should seek action against Qualcomm.

I think we will be much more effective if we stay focused towards the point of sale and HTC. So we should be complaining just as loud to our carriers as HTC. Let's face it, if one of the big providers say to HTC that their phones are too much hassle for customer support, and/or is tarnishing their image, HTC will get on the ball and start taking action.

Take a look at how these devices are marketed. Most other device manufacturers tout their own brand. Take Moto or LG for example. Verizon has had huge success with co branding and will tell you all about the next great phone coming to market. But they are quite clear in putting the device makers brand right up there too.

The HTC phones often get their branding stripped in favor of the carriers branding. They rely on this arrangement, and if it goes sour, it will come back to bite the carrier much harder than HTC. Just off the top of your head, think of how many consumers know the brand names Motorola, Nokia, LG and Sony. Then think of how many know HTC. Night and day. This is nice for the carriers as they can promothe their own brand on the device, but if the device goes bad, the carrier is going to take the brunt not HTC. So if the carriers get flak, it puts HTC relationship with the carrier in jeapordy = lost sales.

We should continue to ask HTC to step up, but lets also keep putting pressure where it hurts most. In the press and on the carriers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] forcedalias:
Thanks to firebug plugin for firefox, you can add them in again before submitting!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] undac:
Four new websites posted links today.

"The sun is shining and the weather is sweet, yeah"

I have a feeling press coverage will increase after the weekend. So far not many US sites have done stories on this yet but I think they will start reacting next week.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
Wow, that's a back handed move.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
Just asked a buddy to write an article on HardOCP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] undac:
NICE!

Even if they call the whole thing stupid (like the class action lawsuit against Microsoft recently) any publicity is good for our cause. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] briggs81:
I submitted to The Boy Genius Report, who knows if they will post anything though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
That's CRAVE.

It would give us more merit and help us more if we fixed all these spelling errors. Other examples loosing instead of losing, and so on.

TyTN II - it's like running your Core 2 Duo/8900GT in SAFE mode all the time!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andyclay:
USA today

Just a FYI. I just posted a request to USAtoday.com editorial area telling them about the classaction suit by owners of high end HTC cells phones. Mentioned that other publications are picking up the story (to get their competitive juices flowing) and pointed them to the class action website.

I suggested they might also want to pass this on to the paper version of USAToday.

It would be great if a General, national paper picked this up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
Wouldn't that be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you please post up the link you used so many of us can contact the same parties at USAToday? The more noise we make (in a professional and articulate manner) the better chance we have!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
*Bump* , just to bump up this thread to the front page again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NatronCH:
Hi all, (my first post ;) )

This might be interesting to track the spreading news:

http://news.google.com/news?oe=utf-8&hl=en&q=htc&btnG=Search+News

The Polaris will most probably be my first HTC device. I think it's now worth to risk buying the device and hoping for a fix.

Thank you for everyones effort
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
Wau. Every second article is about us :eek: Thanks for the link.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fared:
Then it's a matter of the English.

Going to pm my response in-so-that I do not further pollute the thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
lol you must not be a gamer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] undac:
just a small question, does anyone know of an test app that reads out the amount of video memory?

I'm interested to see which version of imageon is actually used in the kaiser and it will be easier to narrow it down if we know what amount of video RAM it has
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] djboo:
i dont know if its been mentioned...but the latest drivers make tomtom 100* better. all in all im starting to finally feel like i got my moneys worth with the kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kraize:
I'm a gamer :P But I mostly play Warfare Inc and GBA/SNES/NES games.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
hahaha GBA/SNES? on your kaiser??

i wish!

if i could do this i would completely drop the whole quake and duke nukem thing alltogether, but SNES and GBA run at the speed of my 200mhz T-mobile sda.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mycell:
Good job with the drivers. Thanks.....Loaded the drivers on my tilt and the performance appears to be better. Changing from landscape to portrait seems smoother. However, I don't seem to be able to get all of the tests to run.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dust2Dust:
Good jump ahaed!

These work good on L26 V8 Light, better than V2 did. Only the text comes out blurred.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
I don't understandhow this light and triangle app wor...they load and I see the objects but are they supposed to move?...how do I know if this driver july 29 update works..I never installed the previous drivers....videos on youtube and movies seem the same to me..except the camera video recording and pictures look slightly better..but I dunno if that's not from just upgrading from wm6.0 to 6.1. im using L26 V9 rom..seems real stable and solid
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ed_sp:
Great!

Congratulations to the developers! This is a real shame for HTC! They did not were able to it!

I think that Qualcomm or HTC should give these developers a reasonable GIFT or hire then asap!!!

Keep on the great job!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
I tried lights and text3D with hyper dragon III (the latest version)and they both could not open cuz they werent signed with a trusted certificate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
I couldn't get the drivers to work on L26 V9 rom, contrary to the htcclassaction site saying they do. At least, I couldn't get the test apps to work anyway. They did exactly as you describe.

The DO work on ROMeoS 4.1 beta 2 though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] plaktoets:
doesn't run on RUU_Kaiser_HTC_NLD_3.29.404.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship

i believe thats a stock rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] deuzeff:
Hi,

I throw my stone in the jungle of posts :). You've got obviously the same problem as I and others have. See a interesting explanation by daedric (post #2140)

After now 2 days of use, it might be psychologic :D, but I have the feeling that the Kaiser is kinda of faster...evenso the test apps were not working properly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
I'm having problems getting GLBenchmark CM to work on ROMeOS v4.1 with the latest CAB. At first I thought it was a particular test that was causing it to fail (the 3D Rendering Quality: Trilinear filter.), but when I removed it from the option list, the failure simply occurred on the next test. The screen simply freezes and keeps flashing on and off at regular intervals. Could this be some sort of memory leak?

Doing each test individually does not cause the failure to occur.

R
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] darkenergy:
i have Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and id like to give it a go on my dutch t-mobile vario 3, i downloaded all the packages, exept i have no idea wich is the manila i have to install.

BETA QVGA MANILA PUBLIC RELEASE V1 contains quite a many things

.maybe off topic but can flash lite also be " accelerated" ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dtag:
Props to all creators and testers of the drivers...I can't really relate that much yet because I'm still waiting for the At&t official 6.1 because i have a terrible fear that Murphy's law will manifest itself when I try to flash another rom...Anyhoo, now that the excellent chefs here were able to piece together a 3d driver I just wanna know something...

Since it wasn't really HTC that gave us the drivers but the extreme patience of some members of the forums, the class action is still on, right?:D

One more point I see is that HTC might do the following with their "soon to be released" drivers....

a. Use the one built by Chainfire and company, tweak it with their own resources and release it as their own

and

b. release the drivers finally after the touch pro is out for about 3 months...

:(