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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
I totally get what you're saying.

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
Believe me I would love to root my phone. And if and when the time comes I will be the first to thank and congratulate who ever achieves root.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
its just the way you go about yourself.. you would love root but come in here and discourage everyone lol

i mean whats the point of posting negative comments in a root thread?

u are titled to your own opinion and to post whenever u want, i was simply suggesting to refrain from posting negative comments is all
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
Yes I understood you the first time and I'm sorry to have offended you. Like I said I'm not here to stroke anyone's ego. This is a open forum and I didn't say anything off topic. There is always 2 sides to every coin.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
It's been a little quiet about root lately. My G955U TMO gut tells me root maybe near! Keeping positive!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
I like the way u think

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
There ya go

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
So with all that being said.. Lol...

OP any update on the current status of the progression towards root?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jiffyjeffsd:
Thank you everyone that is working on rooting the S8.

I would have not purchased one if I knew it couldn't be rooted easily.

I am just a dumb electrician that learned how to root phones from youtube,and xda forums.

I would gladly pledge 100$ if someone can figure out how to root this phone.

I have been following this since I got my S8.Screw Samsung

Please keep up the work.

Thank you everyone working on this.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
This phone is going to get rooted, I'm sure! It's too much of a beast! Plus, it's a popular phone. Just don't saying anything negative towards root that would discourage these crazy guys who are willing to sit there and read code and decode them! I would of went crossed eyed! I remember I took Q basics back in college and I dropped the class cuz I could take it! Takes a lot of patience!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yes actually.. we have made gains in context but more importantly might be figuring/situating edl mode.. one (not in our group that we work with) has actually bypassed or fixed sahara protocol error.. he successfully flashed files but didnt boot so we are still working on it but as stated these things take time as sammy has stepped up their game on security
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
we will spend countless hours regardless of comments.. i just need to focus on tge task and not get caught up n back n forths.. we take it personal bcuz we spend countless hours..

i literally wake up on eng,scour internet, try stuff before work, run late to work, use terminal/termux on breaks n lunches, go straight home n spend all night til i pass out.. wipe n flash 10+ times a day, our group all does the same.. we share ideas and lookna5 everything posdible..

so far all the typical avenues are not useable on the S8.. sammy really did a nunber but it was to be expected, phones are more secure by the month these days but we are doijg everything we can within our scope and learning as we go with things outside our scope
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
The s8+ is a power house, just think of the possibilities when root is achieved!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
im goin to add to the op also discussion lol so when ppl report it wont be"off topic" as i hate when thread gets "cleaned"

i like a healthy discussion lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] meathammer386:
yes and yes
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
Dam, that is dedication! Thanks for that!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
Whatdaya know dumb and I must be dumber lol pun intended! I also learned how to root and unlock bootloaders watching YouTube. I knew that it was gonna be very difficult for devs to root this device. But with that being said these devs are very very smart and I do not doubt them. This device will get root it's just a matter of time! LET'S GO TEAM!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kennypow3rs:
....

Jailbreaking and Rooting is pretty much dead. Manufacturers are locking phones down tighter than ever and even if a devs finds a loop hole for a few thousand dollars in a bounty pot, why do that when Samsung and apple are willing to pay them hundreds of thousands for any holes they find lol. Rooting used to be relevant, now it's kinda not really needed. Take saurik, the guy who created cydia for the jailbreaking scene, he came out and said jailbreaking is dead. Apple is willing to pay top dollar for any loop holes hackers and Devs find lol. Rooting is on its last breath and if I were you guys I'd update my phone's to get the latest security patches and bug fixes. The rooting scene is dead bro. It's nothing how it was 4 to 5 years ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
Sorry but all it shows is were you quoted what I said. It doesn't show what you said..

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
True its not what is was 5yrs ago but its most certainly not dead...

The development scene for The non snapdragon sammy devices is still quite active.

The majority of other manufacturers devices which come out are rootable on certain carriers/in certain regions at least..

AT&T and verizon of course not but they have been locked down for a long time and if you want development you simply dont buy those variants.

Again not like before but still thriving mostly across many devices.

The fact that threads like this exist and are super active alone shows there is interest and fight left in the development world!

Sent from my S8+, S7 edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thread cleaned up.

Please respect each other and their opinions

No need to mock anyone.

The Forum Ruleshttps://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81 clearly state

.

Hope I made myself pretty clear.

Regards

Vatsal,

Forum Moderator.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
Rooting will never die :) It's these manufacturers vs. entire world of talented developers. They'll figure it out no matter what. Might take time but they will. Just my take!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
Screw the USA carriers, NOT SAMSUNG

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Not really manufacturer SAMSUNG international model is always unlock rootable its just USA carrier models blame carriers not samsung
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
Usually TMO always had the ability to unlock BL. Don't know why they started with S8+. It's one of the main reasons why I switch from Sprint to T-Mobile. The T-Mobile guys always had root first. But this is the first phone that I've had that I'm not really stressed out about root. Frustrated though. Hehe
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
Your right, I'm hating on the wrong Corp. As from the famous words of Xda's great DEV Adam Outler, SCREW YOU VERIZON!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
I was mainly talking about Sprint AT&T Verizon even tho i think verizon has more unlockable phones than others
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nexus6r3plicant01:
VZW and at&t locked bootloader's before Sprint or to T mobile..... But really doesn't matter as Samsung is making 1 phone for all carriers and they will all be locked right now.. That's why it's not just a t mobile being able to be unlocked like the S7 edge ... It's looking like if your want root and roms you will have 1 choice and that may be locked too

...Pixel 2
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sxmsung:
50 on S8+ Full Root
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TCPDump:
[MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] I sent a PM for a link to join. Anyone in the hangout should be able send me a link to join, just in case everyone else is sleeping. :D

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Actually, Google is white-listing IMEI's for VZW variants like mad. You can buy a VZW Pixel now, and you can almost always use oem unlocking to unlock the boot loader.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you keep asking to be added to a bounty hangout but we dont have a bounty hangout.. what knowledge do you have?? we are trying to keep head count low bcuz we dnd up with a room full of ppl just wanting to "watch" what is going on...

and whitelist or not does not matter when we have no way to actually enter any unlock commands to start with
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TCPDump:
Umm, you said "In order for devs attempting root and to achieve bounty you must join Hangouts group by pming me for an invite. This way we know FOR CERTAIN who is responsible for purchasing firmwares and/or putting in the work to get us perm root so we can know who the bounties go to." in your OP... That would lead me to believe you have a hangout.

Either way, I'm out. I'll keep my progress to myself. Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
its not a,bpunty hangout its a root hangout for those actively trying to root.. the bounty comments are simpky saying they would need to join or pm me when or if they obtain root so it can be verified, not join the hangout for bounty discussion..

and if you wont say what you are working on or what your experience is then I cant send you an invite.. again, its not to iffend you but i have recieved over 100pms from ppl just wanting to "watch" and they end up turning the root ho group into a kingroot thread lol I think this is,a fair question to ask, so apologize if it offended you in any way

and good luck in your endeavors
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hindutool:
Agreed. Thanks [MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] for your hard work and support. Bounty and root thread must be kept clean for those actively working on root. I am sure most of you would understand that. I am willing to chip in a bit more if the JTAG option seems to be the only way., or if xml seems promising. Thanks again to the devs.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JESSEONE:
$20 - jesseone
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrewbud:
I'll put $40 Canadian in for s8 root
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] emalave32:
Hey guys. I been boomeranging this thread for a minute and even have a Donation for when it's added. Just a quick fyi. I'm on at&t and bought a international version and rooted. Not trying to discourage anyone but if you're on tmo or at&t or some prepaid with a sim the rooted version is pretty cool. If you have the means get the international version and also Rent A Center started selling international s8's. Only issue I am having is Netflix won't work on rooted phones now. I'm still waiting to unlock the at&t s8 and thank anyone that might be working on this project for their knowledge and hard work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Psych0t1c20:
Does the att Sim work in the international version?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
might be best to ask in the carrier switch or other related forums
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] emalave32:
Yes, it does
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Harry44:
I have achieved UID 1000 (system). Progress is being made.....stay tuned...

Buy me a Red Bull?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
What does all this mean
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Harry44:
We can execute commands as if we were the system.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
Can you dumb it down a little more lol. How does that pertain to root?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] happy2472:
got me needing a cold shower and a smoke !!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hazmad:
UID 1000 Is the first user created (system in Android).

Android gives the System user special permissions. you pretty much get access to anything.

We would still need a way to elevate privileges to root.

Without su on your device (stock) you need a privilege escalation vulnerability. There are some privileged service vulnerabilities we could try.

[MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] said they have a firmware with su already on it. If we combine system access with su, it could lead to at least a root shell. Then possibly system rw access.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
That's awesome thanks for the explanation and good luck[emoji106] [emoji106]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
Nice!!! I had a feeling root would be coming close. Last week I read that they already ported TWRP to the Snapdragon variants. It will be sad to lose secure folder. But root is far better!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Yorgo1982:
last year Note7 in canada it was Snapdragon so i prefered to use FlashFire so it wont trip the Knox . iI was the first time to use it since in canada usually our bootloaders aren't locked for the past year Our Carriers and Sammy are hating on us hehe.

( the only down was, i had to flash the Binary for Sprint to root it and after that create a port of my canadian firmware )

So as result I prefered the root via adb and use flashfire because i dont wanna loose my secure folder i need it for work.

lets hope this year it will be so for my S8+ and soon Note 8... and who cares about TWRP if you can have the root without tripping the Knox
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
This would be really cool
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
⛈️?️ The calm before the storm ?️⛈️

~•~•~•~As we all patiently await for you~•~•~•

TO RELEASE THE KRAKEN?!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jetsman:
This is getting good..... Happy Happy Joy Joy....
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
Whats getting good?

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cleopete:
Glad there's some hope here. I've been considering upgrading my Note 4, but not for a locked phone, no matter the hardware. It's nice not being in a hurry.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] anewday:
Awesome, can't wait for root.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
I would rather see an unlocked bootload3r that way we can flash roms & kernels...

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
Put me down for $35 for full root on the S8!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Spyderspartan:
Anyway to leverage Broadpwn for root?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Root-Maniac:
[MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] Anybody tried the eng root file available all over the internet?

https://mega.nz/#!798GVZqD!G4dh350U1psBFpl9zLG2KrCQYULqGO2-OmWPy2m3lqM

https://idoneapps.com/forum/index.php?topic=672.0
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leaderbuilder:
Please give it a go and let us know!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
lol its available all over the internet so yes.. i refer to that and most others as not being "true" eng because all they are is permissive and disable frp..

in fact when they are booted up the splash screen clearly indicates its a USER build lol

I do have the what i call "true" eng files but cannot flash the boot.img since its actually ENG and we have a USER device/binary
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
if anyone in here knows how to write code based on what is released so far then why not so long as our device is exploitable..

its barely being discussed at black hat today so dont get your hopes up on a poc by tonight lol, these things take some time
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Root-Maniac:
Interesting. That's how we obtained root with the s7 edge. Using a eng boot.img and some rooting scripts to inject su
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
well that was the S7.. the "eng" files u see floating around have ro.secure 1 and only thing they can do is they are permissive

keep in mind i do have su binaries in /system/xbin already with the eng system.img
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hazmad:
Have you tried using "/system/bin/run-as" as the System user?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
I heard that the s7 root was a Hachette Job!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Root-Maniac:
It was to the point of running stock over rooted cause it created that much of a lag no matter what settings were changed....
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] muppetmaster916:
It was awful, ran stock debloated all the way on unlocked firmware just like with this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
This device doesnt need that!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?

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If its gonna be like the s7 then i personally dont want root.

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] christiebunny:
My V10 just died, so I'm SoL and phoneless. I've got a couple choices that I know of: V20, or S8+ and pray for root. I haven't been able to find any other phones with specs even close, that *ARE* rootable (on verizon), so..... should I gamble on root soon for the S8+ or get a V20 that might end up with the same hardware flaw that killed my V10? (Obviously I'd prefer the S8+, I haven't drooled over phone specs as much as I am over those, in a looong time... but root is a requirement.)

('root' specifically meaning working SU, not necessarily TWRP, though that would be welcome!)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
To be honest grab the s8+ anyway regardless of root. I bought the s8+ assuming I was going to be able to root it. I brought it home and went on the forum to grab the ROM I wanted. I checked my version only because I happened to read that I had the Snapdragon model and was pissed when I realized. Ive rooted every phone I've ever had and I can honestly say with this phone I now don't care if I get to root it or not. There isn't a single ROM out there that has ever been as smooth, solid and had battery life as good as this phone and believe me I've installed 100s of ROMs so I know. Get the s8+
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cam30era:
My advice: do not gamble on root. If you can not live without it then go somewhere else. The chances are too high that root might not happen, then you will be disappointed.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
If you really want an S8 and root is important do not buy a snapdragon S8 its as simple as that.

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, S7 edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ShrekOpher:
Most USA version of phones will not have root this year. I have even heard that will include the Pixel 2 having a locked boot loader. This is the new era of IT security. The OEMs can't afford to miss out on Business accounts and they can't get those accounts if the phones can be easily rooted. It is only a matter of time before the international version follow suit. I already know of a few companies in Europe that used a USA branch of the company to write their mobile phone hardware contract so they could distribute USA versions of phones that can't be rooted or boot loader unlocked to their employees. This is becoming the norm.

It would be nice is Samsung offered a "sold directly from them" developer addition of the phone that could be unlocked, but my guess is the majority of their customers would not want that because they could not use the phone for work then.

Since it looks like that will NEVER happen, I think XDA might need to fundamentally change its mod community. You are seeing this change starting already with substratum being released in a "no Root needed" variant for the S8/S8+. The developers will need to find new ways to get their apps/mods to work without root. Some will probably be impossible but my guess is most will follow suit and find a way to work without root.

From a developer stance it makes way more sense to change your app to work without the need for root. Substratum is going to blow up once they get it working seamlessly on the S8 line, there are millions of more users who are willing to purchase an app and use it if it doesn't require root access. The developers of that app and the theme creators are going to make BANK once it get a finalized version.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] christiebunny:
Are there any other phones with fairly comparable specs, that ARE rootable on verizon? And if not, are there any international/rootable versions that are verizon compatible?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cam30era:
See the advice of Force70, above. I.e. the international version. But you will likely have to give up VOLte, WiFi calling, and CDMA band. The only other obvious suggestion is the Pixel XL, which has an unlockable bootloader (if you buy direct from Google, but not from VZW or Best Buy). But the Pixel XL "only" has the Snapdragon 821 processor, versus the 835 for the S8+.

As others have intimated, your device options that are rootable are likely to continue to diminish.

Edit: So, bottom line: you will have to determine what is more important to you in the long run. Specs/hardware? Or capability to root. Key point here is don't go with the S8+ based on the assumption that it will get root. FWIW: I've just switched from the Pixel XL and don't miss having the ability to root, one bit.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] peekie:
Not having root is a problem iam glad i dont have , it is better having an international version , even though mines a euro version i cant root as it breaks samsung pay for good , so your not missing much if you use that .
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] christiebunny:
The Pixel XL looks decent, but in digging, I found the HTC U11-- which apparently works perfectly with verizon and has the same CPU, and is unlocked as well. So I may get that instead, much as I'm drooling over the S8/S8+
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cam30era:
Just be careful that you don't confuse an unlocked SIM with an unlocked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
we are close.. id like to believe we have it this year lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Root-Maniac:
I'm done screwing around l. You my friend are doing something right so I'll stop posting half assed questions / ideas
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
Oh hell yeah!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Raz12:
OMG you are on to something. If you need someone to test AT&T Galaxy S8 Plus i am down lol. $100 down for me. i would love to see root.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
we got enough testers.. we need devs lol but theres at least 4 of us on it regularly.. i stay on it 24/7 so using it as a daily lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
closer n closer... not stable yet but furthest we've gotten so far! will be working on it around the clock...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
You da man! Are u working on bootloader too?

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BigM69:
This is great news!

I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] meathammer386:
Nice