[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
So, you no longer care about root, ROMs, custom recovery, custom kernels? ;)

The 2017 carrier-branded LG flagship phones have ADB flash commands removed. No root, no TWRP on carrier-branded LG G6 or LG V30. (At least no published root, and I'll leave it at that.) 7 months after release even the 2017 "bootloader unlocked"

T-mobile LG G6 still doesn't have root or recovery (23 page root pledge thread abandoned as a lost cause).

Only the "open market" officially carrier unlocked versions (North America and for Europe) LG flagship phones have bootloader unlock with full ADB flash commands, as they are placed on the

LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.

This is similar to Motorola's bootloader unlock list.

In the past, if you found exploit like "Dirty Santa" -- BOOM -- you could then get root and TWRP recovery even on the LG carrier branded models because the ADB commands were still there. That's how almost all the carrier-branded 2016 LG V20 models have root and ROMs, even though they are NOT on that bootloader unlock list. Exploits were found to root and BOOM. Very similar to your Droid Turbo has root and custom ROM even though it's not on Motorola's approved bootloader unlock list. ;)

Now, starting in 2017, it seems the full set of ADB flash commands are only present on the LG "open market" models.

WHY? An extra security measure to prevent exploits like Dirty Santa or Sunshine app. Even if you unlock the bootloader with an exploit similar to "Dirty Santa", then you probably still can't do anything. You either need root first to get recovery or you need recovery first to get root. Even the T-mobile version can't get root even with an "unlocked" bootloader. (Yes, both the T-mobile LG G6 and V30 both have easily "unlocked" bootloaders, but with no ADB flash commands, it's useless.)

The carriers don't want you to root and have total ownership of your phone, they want to control your phone. So, LG provides phones to the carriers that have that functionality removed, and then provide non-carrier SIM card unlocked "development" friendly phones for those who want that -- which they call "open market" phones, usually one for North American and one for Europe.

Even though there's no development on the carrier-branded LG G6 phones, there's

two pages of XDA development on the "open market" LG G6 models (North America US997 and Europe H870

. The open market models have TONS of development -- root, TWRP recovery, ROMs, kernels...

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LG G6 vs LG V30

Now, besides not the carrier-branded LG G6, why not the "open market" LG G6? Because the LG V30 has been released. The specs of the LG G6 are a little lacking compared to the LG V30.

One, the 2017 LG G6 has "last year's" Snapdragon 821. In their rush to try to beat the 2017 Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ to market, LG was forced to use older Snapdragon 821 instead of the "next gen" Snapdragon 835.

Two, LG stupidly regionalized the specs. Some regions got 64GB storage, while others got Qi wireless charging and/or quad DAC. You couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the advertised specs. :rolleyes: It was truly idiotic. U.S. got Qi wireless with 32GB storage and nothing else.

The LG V30 is the phone the LG G6 should have been -- 64GB memory, Qi wireless charging, quad DAC for ALL regions, and Snapdragon 835. The North America "open market" version LG V30 US998 will be released in early December and then placed on the LG Bootloader Unlock list. That's why I'm waiting for the LG V30 US998. (NO, not the U.S. Cellular LS998U --- but the "open market" US998, which will NOT be sold by any carrier.) The North America US998 and the Europe H930 are GUARANTEED to have dev work.

There's also a V30+ -- which has 128GB internal memory, so hoping LG will release that one for "open market" too. But I'm not betting any money. I'll probably have to settle for the 64GB variant.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=

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