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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JesseMT4G:
He's not the only one. I was going to get an s8 from tmobile and the display unit was so bad, I told the rep about it and he pulled his out to show me and sure enough his had it to. It's the same on the 7 edge I have and drove me nuts to the point I gave it to my stepdaughter to get a mate 9 which is the fastet most fluid phone I have used. Pull down menu and it is a split second lag, or go to home. I just don't get it as my note 5 don't do it in Marshmallow still.

Love the look of the phone granted not a huge fan of the weird aspect ratio, that and the half finished version of Bixby. Be ok with it, but most phones can't remap the button. Rather just use Google assistant.

Probably get this phone soon for my wife as she's interested in it and this stuff won't bother me. I am just ocd about the speed and fluidity of phones. Most people this won't bother, but I understand where he's coming from.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BleedCrimson:
Best phone I have ever used.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] antawnm26:
Wonder the size of Samsung touch wiz n carrier bloat
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Harry44:
I'm with you. The display is nice..but I haven't been wowed by the phone. I should have gotten the exynos variant.

Do I return it and wait for something else?..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ShrekOpher:
Have not seen any lag AT ALL on this device. I transferred everything over using smart switch. I also have multiple devices hooked up via blue tooth most of the day.

If you turned the Animations all the way off sometimes it might look like the phone is lagging. Using 0.5X is the best option. Also

Also this being a new device it could be caused by an app you have installed. It might be hanging, or might not be reacting well with the device manager. See if you have anything using a bunch extra ram or battery.

Have you tried to reboot into recovery and wipe the devices cache. If it is caused by Smart Switch it could just be fixed by that.

Finally try booting into "Safe Mode" It prevents apps from loading during the boot up process. They also cannot open once booted into the phone. If there is still lag in safe mode I'd return the phone it might be a lemon. If there is no lag in safe mode then one of the apps you installed is causing the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mlock420:
If I was you I would and be done with it... clearly your not having good results like others including myself... I'm having too much fun showing my days worth...lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bonerp:
Reboot into recovery helped after deleting cache thanks fb stutter gone!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] abdullaha:
So using the plus for a few days, there has been a split second moment where I saw lag. But come on..Let's put it into perspective. One time in the past 3 days, the phone hanged for a second. Even my iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 7 and Pixel XL lag. Every phone has some lag sometimes. Every phone. Don't anyone come here and claim they've never seen lag. But it's a VAST improvement over the S7 and S6 edges that I've had in the past. I've got it on high brightness, full resolution, all my accounts and services running, and my Moto 360 connected all day. It's a vastly fast phone. TouchWiz is finally mostly pleasing to the eye. Bloat is reduced this year. The phone itself is stunning, from the design to the feel in the hand. The camera is wonderful.

If your going to come here and complain about some intermittent lag once in a while, or frame drops, return your phone!

NO PHONE IS PERFECT.

Hate to break it to you. Not even iPhones are lag free. Even those Axon 7s, Pixels, and Mate 9's can lag.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricey:
My S8+ is replacing my V20. Each update for the V20 started lagging my phone more and more. It's the first phone I've used where the updates kept making things worse. So far my S8+ has more installed than the V20 but little to no lag at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] pipergca:
Totally agree! The S8+ is like lightning after the POS V20 I've been using for the last 6 months. That was the worst phone I've ever owned. Probably why I'm finding it hard to believe that people say they are experiencing lag on the S8, but I guess my bar is pretty low.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheAnarchist1:
I am sending my S8+ back. I couldn't seem to get the latency straightened out and I am no Android amateur. Between framerate loss and latency things are just not good. I didn't realize how bad it was until I fired my Pixel​ XL back up one more time for comparison. I do believe that software optimization has something to do with the matter but not everything. I am wondering if the GPU can keep up with pushing all those pixels without sustained framerate loss after becoming bogged down. That isn't to say that Samsung skimped the internals because they didn't. I simply wonderful if the display tech is simply ahead of the curve in regards to the SoC capacity? I remember that ASUS had this exact problem with the early Transformer tablets. The displays were beautiful but simply beyond the capacity of the SoC and you had a lot of framerate loss and latency as a result that marred an otherwise wonderful experience. I notice that things improve when you dial down the display as much as possible and simplify animations with a custom launcher. The very fact that Samsung artificially leashed the flagship feature of their flagship device also makes me raise an eyebrow
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Monkey Chops:
No lag here at all at max resolution, in fact it's the fastest Android device I've used as far as no lag and things loading fast. That said, I dumped the stock launcher and installed Nova on day one. Impressed with the battery life too.

There has been a software update today, hopefully that fixes some issues for the people with lag.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Duncan1982:
So having had my S8+ for 24hrs now i can only confirm from my point that it is indeed fluid. I have my 3T to compare with which we all know has 6gb ram.

Whilst the 3T is blaaazing fast there is not a huge gulf in difference so that in turn makes my special S8+ as equal to.

I think some get confused and over refer to stutters as lag, there was a nice article about such but must get some work done shortly & thus don't have time to look & link it. However it provides clarity on Lag and what is being referred to as lag on here. I mean if there are stutters (perhaps an app in background is behaving badly) then up people jump and shout lag. I'm NOT trying to discredit anyone but i think LAG is being wrongly used in many cases.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mattcall:
had my S8+ since Saturday unlocked UK version. did a restore of 167 apps everything maxed settings wise out as always, screen res etc. no animation on (always get them switched off). got a 128 sandisk sd card in. no lag on mine at all.

its lightning fast on all tasks really. btw i love it hand this screen is awesome. which is the main focus on a phone for my as i watch all my TV shows and movies on it etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thecremeegg:
People with dropped frames claiming that the phone is "slow" - do you even know what you're on about?

It's the animation, nothing more nothing less. Change to Nova launcher and the animations are different. The speed of the phone has nothing to do with the frame drops you're receiving.

Change the animation speed to 0.5x if it bothers you that much and then you barely get an animation to complain about.

Phone is slow, LOL
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheAnarchist1:
The phone isn't slow but there is pretty significant frame loss when it comes to anything graphically intensive and a few casual things as well. Swiping down the notification shade. Scrolling through settings. Scrolling through applications which are smooth on my other devices. If this were a bargain device I would understand. I mean I am a pretty strong believer in tempered tolerance in regards to the price tier of your device. I do not expect i7 performance out of my ASUS Flip C100 as a result of it just being a sub $300 rockchip device. But the S8+ is nearly a $1000 bit of hardware....and this gives me a lot of room for expectation. Whereas I felt that the S7 Edge was a total polished thing of beauty at release....this feels more like an S6 entry in the series rather than an S7 Edge. It just isn't polished and SOMETHING is going on behind the scenes. I personally feel that there might simply simply be a disparity between the Infinity display and the SoC. The 835/w GPU is the newest out there but the display is even further ahead of the curve (no pun intended) than the SoC. There are a lot of pixels to push and when the going gets tough the GPU seems to bog down. This same thing happened score years ago with the early ASUS Transformer tablets. ASUS included this total kick butt screen (by standards of the time) but it was way outside of the comfortable operating range of the SoC and it resulted in a LOT of frame loss within the OS and while performing graphically intensive operations. There are reasons why Samsung artificially shackled the resolution of their flagship feature on their flagship device and I am pretty sure those reasons extend well beyond battery. If this were a -$500 device I might be convinced to let it pass....but for just over $900 .usd after taxes. I want butter without the chunks. I have moved back to my Pixel XL and I am perfectly alright.

I have nothing against Samsung. I love them so much even though they abducted my Note 7 against my wishes. Their hardware oozes quality and the S8+ is no exception...but this entry in the series has issues out of the starting gate. I just don't want to get caught up in another Note style debacle. My Pixel XL just keeps zooming along and Google customer service has always been top notch.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] biffwitch:
I'm afraid this is your device (or the Snapdragon), it's not typical to others. My Exynos S8+ is faster and smoother than my old Pixel, and I get no frame drops or skips. It loads apps faster than the Pixel and scrolls perfectly smooth just like the Pixel. Speed tests online show the S8+ destroying the Pixel in speed so there is proof out there.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheAnarchist1:
It might be the difference between Snapdragon and Exynos. I know that the Exynos models have almost always had a history of better performance. In terms of real world performance, though. My XL simply smokes this thing in terms of a quality user experience. There are less frame drops. The performance difference in terms of app loading is minimal at best and the OS all around feels a deal more optimized on the Pixel XL. I am not a Samsung hater. I am actually a huge fan of what they do. I have owned every Galaxy except the 2 and I even had a Note 7 which I (very briefly) loved. I am just beginning to feel (at least for the 835 model) that this is more of an S6 entry in the series rather than a duplication of the perfection that was the S7 Edge. I know that Samsung is already working with Qualcomm on an 835 revision that I suspect will sneak its way into the production lines later in the S8+'s life cycle. Microsoft is notorious for this kind of thing with their Surface devices. Sneaking in what can almost be semi-significant hardware revisions and not telling people. I personally wonder if the infinity display simply isn't operating at the very edge of the stable threshold for the GPU included with the 835. I mean there are reasons that Samsung has artificially shackled their flagship feature on their flagship device and I suspect it doesn't entirely have everything to do with battery longevity contrary to what they are saying.

I might return later after the production lines have had a chance to work out the kinks or just wait for the Pixel 2 whenever it arrives. Regardless, to each their own I say! That is the great thing about Android! Diversity of experience!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jeffonion:
Even what you claim can still hold up in a couple months, it is Samsung fault not to hiding the hardware difference. But Samsung phone slows down after a couple of usage or after a major update , saying galaxy s7 after Android n.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
You're an idiot. Guess what ****bird, I'm using Nova launcher and it still drops frames. I don't need to change my animations to .5x, because I actually enjoy the normal speed of them on the iPhone and the Pixel. That isn't the ****ing problem. It's typical un-optimized Samsung **** software.

If that's the case, then **** Samsung for not keeping the devices in parity. Isn't the SD835 even downclocked slightly in this? Do they really have to keep Exynos faster, just to make their SoCs look special? And they reserve the 128GB/6GB version for their home country? Pisses me off.

I agree with everything you're saying. I miss the smoothness of my Pixel XL and the camera. But at the same time, the S8+'s display and added features are hard to argue with. Pixels are barebones and just work great, whereas Samsung crams in as much useless bull**** as they can to try to differentiate themselves. Some features are great, and some are totally useless bloat ****.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Messing with the DPI in Dev settings will cause the frame drop issues. Well at least it did for me. Put it back to stock 411 now and it's running like butter.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
If only the Axon 7 had Qi wireless charging I would have bought three of them. It had the BEST hardware specs of almost any phone last year, especially for the price.

5.5" 1440p AMOLED (allegedly same Samsung panel Pixel XL uses)

award winning DAC

front facing stereo speakers

64GB/4G RAM + microSD ($400)

128GB/6GB RAM + microSD ($500)

frame designed by BMW.

but Qi wireless is a must have for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mlock420:
I don't get how you guys just don't say your device is having frame drop issues stop including my phone to your issues lol... snap dragon here no LAG no frame drops...no pink hue no battery issues non of that bull y'all talking about... will my device stay this nice for long? I don't know but I am expecting it to crap out a little in a month or 2... like I said I don't have anything to lie about every samsung phone I had did lag, will history repeat itself? I would like to think not and that samsung improved...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zathus:
The best advice for anybody who's not happy with the phone is simple. Return it. I was on the fence I'm getting another Samsung phone because of TouchWiz. But with Bluetooth 5.0 and the upgraded LTE radios it felt worth it already knowing that in the future the phone will probably stutter. It will probably lag. But there are plenty of great options out there not happy just take it back. The good thing about phones is there's always a new one around the corner
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] futurvisionary:
I always change animations to 0.5x under developer settings... Though it makes a huge difference... My Att Orchid had Zero Lag before this!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] androidrouen:
1) Stay correct with other.

2) Ebay is for human with a brain and balls. I get 128gb on Ebay. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
Note that some of the themes change the screen or top/bottom tray animation and can DEFINITELY add lag.

Some of those transition animations just kill the performance.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mlock420:
This here is true for some themes
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] slavic23:
Faster

Try to swipe faster.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nrage23:
I have used the S8+ for a week now and I also have a 128 gb Pixel XL. I have no lag what so ever with the S8+. The Pixel is a great phone but I am so glad to be done with the damn huge bezels. Neither phone is bad but I do not see any reason to put my sim back in the Pixel.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cantenna:
This isn't just the best phone I have ever had, it's the nicest micro pc I have ever owned!

Disclaimer; I did root and install custom Rom...:)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] BanziBaby:
Once you set all animations to 0.5x any lag disappears.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
I had my lag s8 plus replaced which doesn't lag nowhere near as much but has the red tint issue. Annoyed do will return this too
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] golfinggino:
I always turn off all aninations, I have the Canadian Snapdragon no lag here
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Funkym0nkey:
This is typical Samsung launch. Has been the case for 3 years now.

It will take 2-3 updates for them to nail down the performance.

S5/6/7 all were the same. Not as smooth as it should have been but then updates coming over 2-3 months finally fixing the frame drops and stutter.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] borimol:
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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Zer0_:
UPDATE:

Phone definitely has small bugs here and there, however still have yet to experience frame drop/lag.

:silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sml2004:
Had the experience Of owning both phones I got no lag on either but what I do have with the Axon 7 is a plain Jane dirt **** phone with crappy interface that drops signal. Haven't had any of that with this phone. Axon camera is terrible compared to most high end phones. Sounds like bs to me. S8+ is a thoroughbred. Axon is fast bare plain phone there you go that's it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
My replacement keeps dropping calls after several mins even though I haven't moved. Has occurred almost every single call, getting another replacement and red tint is annoying me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Velrix:
So yes the Axon camera sucks but then again I wasn't saying it was superior. The interface is fairly close to stock which didn't matter much to me as I used the pixel launcher.

With that being said now that I have my Exynos variant the frame drops are basically gone so it looks to be isolated to the SD variant.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mchief298:
Definitely seeing the dropped frames. It's not a deal breaker though. My S7 Edge had some microstutter that got on my nerves after a bit. Compared to that, the s8+ is lightning fast.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] wbarnes4393:
They are there - here is an excerpt from a recent review of the Galaxy S8 by Ars Technica:

"Actual in-app performance on the Galaxy S8 is not great. The Google Pixel raised the bar for what smooth Android performance looks like, and the Galaxy S8 just can't keep up. In the above picture you see Android's built-in GPU profiler mode. Each vertical line is the time it takes to draw a single frame, with the horizontal green bar representing 60FPS. Bars under the green line rendered in time, resulting in smooth 60FPS scrolling. Bars that overshoot the line took too long to render, resulting in a stutter in the UI animation.

Even in the lowest resolution possible—1480×720—the Galaxy S8 still drops a ton of frames when scrolling complicated apps like the Play Store. The highly optimized Google Pixel—at its full 2560×1440 resolution—is easily getting frames in on time. And even if things do slow down, there's a sizable amount of render time still.

No matter what resolution you pick on the Galaxy S8, scrolling (especially scrolling slowly) has this weird stutter to it and a slight ghosting effect. Not everyone is sensitive to small performance issue like this, but if you are, you'll find the S8 a little unpleasant to use. I wish Samsung focused more on optimizing the whole display and GPU stack to hit 60FPS and run more smoothly, rather than adopting the raw benchmark focus the company seems to have now."

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...iny-new-hardware-meets-old-software-habits/5/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Zorachus:
So is everyone saying the S8+ is still the same old laggy Touchwiz, and still not on par smoothness with the Pixel running stock Android or as smooth as iOS on a iPhone 7 Plus ?

I just don't get it, Samsung makes the fastest and best hardware, yet this state of the art phone still feels like Touchwiz from yesteryear ? With all the money and smart engineering team working at Samsung, they have yet to make Touchwiz or whatever they call the Galaxy UI, as smooth as stock Android on a Pixel ? WTF
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
TW has lagged from day one just the lag is nowhere near as bad as it used to be.

Top phone and for the first time i can actually live with TW since the phone is so good.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mlock420:
Nevermind it's exhausting...i will not repeat myself.... just good luck with YOUR device.....
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheAnarchist1:
I switched back and outside of Samsung Pay I don't regret it. Even with an outmoded SoC Google has optimized the Pixel XL so well that it absolutely runs circles around the S8+. I never realized quite how big the disparity was until I spent 48 hours playing with both at the same time. Samsung has the better hardware but they've completely stumbled over the software. Google has older hardware but they've nailed the software experience so well that you won't get a better day to day experience except maybe (MAYBE) on a custom rom/kernel. The Pixel XL isn't perfect but dang if it isn't FAST. The XL is probably the first phone in years that I've felt attached to enough to go BACK to. It spoils you in spades when looking at the performance of the competition
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Try the OnePlus 3T it's even faster than the Pixel. Terrible hardware though.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrewtst:
I agree with what you said, just update the home drawer from Galaxy App Store will make it much better.

It is not lag but UI not extremely smooth. I had seen and test 9 demo set and included my own set where total 10 units and all same. Samsung really need to make more effort on this UI smoothness.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] wbarnes4393:
I agree - lack of smoothness or stuttering is a better description, than lag. Maybe those semantics are what causes the disagreements.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Andrewtst:
Just wait Samsung fixed it, I am pretty sure this can be fixed.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Zorachus:
Had the T-Mobile S8+, and returned it last weekend, went back to my old Nexus 6P, which is much smoother, and has way better dark themes, as well as the better stock Google Android apps that way like hot butter smooth, and can also be themed dark.

S8+ is a very nice phone, with great battery life, but the slight micro stutters and hiccups and jag were too annoying. Overall the S8+ is pretty smooth and very fast, but not 100% smooth all the time, which really irks me. I would say the S8+ is like 75% smooth and lag free, compared to my Nexus 6P being 90% smooth. I have yet to find any phone that is 100% perfect lag free, never stutter once. No smartphone exists like that. Yet.

Plus the curved edges were funky, and I didn't find added any real benefit to me, except making typing weird. I prefer flat screens and phones the size of my Nexus 6P or previous iPhone 7 Plus, which were great.