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[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
The Style and Pure are the same device....arnt they?

"Moto X Style Pure" thats its official name everywhere i check.
[X Style (Pure) General] ninormalen:
Yes. Pure is for USA version. Style is worldwide version.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Nope. They're a little different. Moto x pure is only in US everywhere else it's called moto X style.
[X Style (Pure) General] Corduroy-21:
Decided to check this thread after a long time. Saw that some people got it and said "let me check". So I now I have the notification and I'm gonna update.

Happy times...

:P
[X Style (Pure) General] thelolotov:
I've seen several people now post something like this, without specifying what model (XT1572 or XT1575) or where they got it, it would be really helpful to those of us with the XT1575 (Pure) if everyone would clarify when making a post.

Thanks!
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
From my understanding, even the Style had different versions in regards to things like dual SIM vs single.
[X Style (Pure) General] abdielmaiden:
I'm done with this phone, Motorola is dead, Android 8 is around the corner and Lenovo can't bring nougat yet, battery life is getting worse and also it's overheating alot lately...im thinking about a OnePlus 5 or maybe an LG G6, if anyone here can recommend i would appreciate, i want something cheap and good
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
I will never buy a LG or Samsung phones again. Not after all the issues i have had with them in the past and also how incredibly sloppy and inefficient their code is. Not to mention the crap they add into the OS which eventually, no matter how powerful the hardware itself, causes the software to bog down.

Google Pixel is what I recommend for the best Android experience and is guaranteed to get the latest updates for at least 2yrs. The Pixel 2 will be announced in Nov.

Other phones I would recommend:

HTC U11

Huawei Mate 9

One Plus 5
[X Style (Pure) General] abdielmaiden:
I wish I could afford a Pixel (it's 1,050 USD in my country), actually I was looking forward for a Huawei Mate 9 which way cheaper and specs are good. So LG is a no no, thank you for the recomendations :good:
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
HTC has the worst customer service ever, from my experience. Worst company I've dealt with.

Although I totally agree with you, I'm thinking of getting the Samsung S8+. It's an amazing device, and when it will start lagging after a while, I'll might flash it with something else.

Pixel 2 will be the ultimate device imo, but we all know it will be way too expensive.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
I got my Pixel XL 128gb for $680 New in sealed box on Swappa.

Amazon has the HTC U 11 $649...and the Mate 9 is $459.

The Mate 9 the OS they use...is a bit gimmicky....its a bit weird..
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
I'm only buying new devices from a legit dealers or stores. Hence, the Pixel Xl 2 would probably cost me around $1000 USD. I really want this device, so we'll see.

Regarding the U11, what's up with this 2014 design? capacitive buttons on a 2017 device is a big no go, unless you are one of this crappy Chinese companies, and the general design doesn't come even near the S8 or the G6 design. The U11's squizable frame is just a gimmick, imo.

I'll try the S8+, and we'll see how it goes.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
Swappa and Amazon are legit sellers. Swappa takes it a step further and requires sellers to input and verify each device's IMEI number to make sure its not blacklisted etc. U can even connect your XDA account to Swappa. I would never trust ebay...unless ur just looking for a parts phone.

Google has confirmed that the warranty applies regardless of where or from who u buy the device from. It starts when the device was first purchased. Mine was only a month old. So I am covered for 11 months.. U can also buy a 3rd party device protection plan on any of the phones u buy on Swappa (like Squaretrade or something)...I have never done that though.

I actuly would prefer the capacitive buttons and no on screen nav bar that eats up screen space., but i have gotten used to nav bar now. As far as the Squeeze thing...why not...rumors say the Pixel 2 will do that also....I did really like the Moto Actions that my X Pure has, twist to launch cam and chop to launch torch.

I don't like curved screen phones. Apps fall off the edge and are hard to use correctly because of the curved edge. Also, the trend of stretched aspect ratio on new phones I also don't like. Makes most videos have bars on the side and actuly display smaller than standard 16:9 screen.
[X Style (Pure) General] scottww2622:
Just saw this refurb Pixel on groupon.

https://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-go...672dc0-4de9-486e-90e9-c83271970c4b_0_20170728
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
But remember, the Verizon version of the Pixel cannot be bootloader unlocked... period... it is impossible.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Buying sources and display panel observations

I'd trust eBay over Amazon any day. Swappa is pretty good too, but the selection just isn't there and the $10 buyer's privilege premium negates any slight edge that it might've had in terms of price.

I wholeheartedly agree. In addition to being butt-ugly, the curved corners cut you off. We spent almost a century getting rid of that problem only to allow it into our lives it once again :eek:. The ridiculously tall aspect ratios are a bit silly too.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I have to laugh at these comments...because it's true. I just don't see what the big deal is with the curved screen edge. Quite frankly it seems annoying and just gimmicky. I look at my phone full screen, not at the edges. As far as tall aspect ratios, I just don't get why companies think it will win many fans over. They are still trying to mimick Apple, who has even started to move away from this very screen concept.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
pixel 2 has squeezable frame as well apparently :cyclops:
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Aspect ratios, Samsungs, and HTCs

I can maybe understand the potential reasoning behind the tall aspect ratios. Perhaps they want to fill more of the face of the device with screen and, at the same time, be able to advertise a larger diagonal display area without making the entire package any wider. One can at least possibly begin to understand where they were coming from with that, but the rounded corners are just comically bad and 100% lazy (in my opinion).

Well, seeing as how the Pixel is usually based on HTC's name-brand flagship at the time, this shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
I just got a "New system software available!" on my Moto X Pure. Nougat 7.0 version 25.11.21.

I have not been able to get the OTA url.

I'm running adb logcat for an hour, but I have not been able to see the url anywhere on the output text.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
The whole 2.5D glass & the edge display don't really serve purpose other than making a phone display really fragile.

According to "leaks" the new iPhone will have a 18:9 or 21:9 screen ratio.

Remember... Samsung is the main display supplier for Apple.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
What carrier are you and do you have screenshots?

Also anyone else getting the update in the US yet?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Seems this user was already on a Nougat build previously... part of a soak/beta test perhaps or a "slip though" of the beta program (we know a few of those happened).
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Darn... I jumped through the ceiling with excitement when I saw that lol
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Oh come on! Again?

I thought since it was released in Brazil and India it was about time we get it here.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Yeah, I remember now... somehow you got the beta/soak test a few months back when you were not part of the group... And now you got another update... not sure if that is good or bad at this point, but it means things are still happening with the Pure, so hopefully we get a bug free version soon, although at this point idgas whether we do or not anymore. I am just biding my time until something catches my eye at the right price, then I am gone from this device. (or maybe I should just go back to the old Nexus 5, battery life is about the same)
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
what do you have in mind atm? what do you look for ultimately in a phone? Moto X has treated me nice. I feel like I got the right value for it (at release). I bought it as a media phone , and it pretty much delivered there for me. i only wish touch latency & lcd colors were a smidge better ( hoping 7.0 makes touch better if ever comes) . the question is do I downgrade screen size as u get so use to a phone if u have it more than a year. wish more phones had front face speakers- this is what's holding me back from moving on. if pixel 2 has front face, man it's gonna be hard not impulse buy n throw it on the CC. other than that , mate 9 & U11 & honor 6x r ones I'm keeping eye on.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Pretty much this phone was just about perfect for media and it is compatible across all US carriers. It has an unlockable bootloader and mostly bloat free to boot. It's primary downfall--battery life (and it was not a popular model so accessories are limited). Finding anything close is a challenge.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
4 hours average is fine with me with a 2k screen . but ppl use phone differently and I understand that. coming from a g3 my expectations were 4 hrs and at least delivered for me. 3hr 30min average would probably frustrate me
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
Sony XZ Premium has front facing speakers.....but the volume is very low...

4K lcd....but only in 4K res when it detects 4k content.....renders in 1080 otherwise.

I use Color Changer Pro app on my v10 and Moto X P to crank up the color saturation to make it look more like OLED colors. Require root.

Pixel 2 is supposed to have front facing speakers...so the rumors and leaks seem to indicate. Will be a couple months until official specs released.

My V10 i keep for a "Media Player". DAC in it and with Viper sound mod....amazing.

However, no as important anymore...since I got a excellent USB headphone DAC/AMP. (Fiio E17K ALPEN 2) Works great on my Pixel and PC.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
[MENTION=4822746]jojesa[/MENTION] i had same problem.. i was in mm i wanted to take the ota url be for that u need to be rooted

i flashed magisk over twrp but now u have received a new system update.. if u flash/boot twrp and flash magisk over it then u will be forever stuck with the old may patch as there is no new recovery available so you can not take the risk of doing it
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
thanks didn't know u could change saturation without a custom kernal/rom....just curious, what are your moto x settings?
[X Style (Pure) General] Corduroy-21:
Yeah, I feel you. I was too happy to post some info.

I have a Moto X Style XT1572 and I'm based in Greece. The phone was bought from amazon.co.uk though.

If you need more info please tell me.

I like some of the changes in Nougat. Notifications are nice, but the font is too small.

Battery life is the same I guess, but I think drain during sleep is better. Doze probably working better.

I like the quick change between the last two apps.
[X Style (Pure) General] klv12gcn:
Hi, I got notification about Nougat for XT1572 (retasia, retapac) few days ago. :)

I think Pure will get its Nougat soon enough. :fingers-crossed:
[X Style (Pure) General] andromobilogy:
Since Lenovo bought Moto, the term "Soon enough" doesnt have the same meaning anymore!
[X Style (Pure) General] Cowbell_Guy:
Apologies for the noobness, but where is the official DL link?

I'm tired of running custom Roms, just want to back to rooted stock w Xposed and Arise.

What do I need to DL to make that happen?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Official download link for what? Nougat? It isn't out yet for the Pure... and the only "official" link from Motorola is the initial December 2015 Marshmallow release.

We might get an "official" firmware image in 2-6 months, but seeings as we haven't even gotten the December 2016 firmware images yet, we don't even know if we ever will at this point.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
1.35 on saturation...i believe. the other settings in the app i dont mess with.

The moto x does have a 'Vivid" color setting in the regular display settings menu. The make the blacks a tiny bit better.
[X Style (Pure) General] thejase:
U11 perhaps?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Would love one, great device, arguably one of the best currently... But not that $600+ price tag.

I refuse to spend more than $400 in a device anymore, preferably $300 or so.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Suggestions and Advice

It has adopted a new meaning in the form of exercising the patience muscle for the whiny masses. ;)

Used M10s are starting to slowly drop down into the 200s. If you can live with the design, there's little to complain about (at least on paper). Personally, I'll probably wait at least 2-3 years until the Pure Edition is all Motoed out and the 10's software situation is a bit more mature, but if you're already at that point, then this might not be an unreasonable stepping stone.
[X Style (Pure) General] civiksi:
I'm betting I get my pixel 2 before this thing gets updated. Oh well. was a nice ride. This year got terrible with battery and overheating. I loved this thing a year ago. I still blame Lenovo. I think of it as an end of an era
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Perhaps it is the end of the Moto era. I personally was dismayed not at the update delay for N, but rather the near total lack of customer support. I can't even pay Lenovo to replace/repair an issue such as the battery or screen if I need it... Just because I unlocked the bootloader. To me, if I'm willing to pay, I don't get why it is a problem. That is what turned me away.
[X Style (Pure) General] timevo:
Is moto concerened that moto x has same chipset as Nexus 5x

Has anyone seen any news regarding fact that the Moto X Pure has the same Chipset Platform as the LG Nexus 5X? According to GSM Arena, both phones have:

- Moto X Pure - Chipset Qualcomm MSM8992 Snapdragon 808 CPU Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A57) GPU Adreno 418

- LG Nexus 5X - Chipset Qualcomm MSM8992 Snapdragon 808 CPU Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A57) GPU Adreno 418

I'm wondering if the delay in Nougat for the Moto X Pure is out of concern that the Nougat Update could cause Boot Loops for the Moto X Pure, as seen in the LG NExus 5X.
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
The style uses the same chipset as well... The 5x's bootloop issues are an LG problem that they have with most of their recent devices.
[X Style (Pure) General] qassey:
:D:D:D:D:D

look at the moto x style and where bootloop?
[X Style (Pure) General] :
Their bootloops were why I lost trust in LG, three of my friends had LG G4's and they were doing well for a year, but then they all started bootlooping. Moto was my best option, but unbeknownst to me, they went downhill with updates. At least they can make a really durable phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] Scougar:
3 months later after they put out a release note... STILL not released. WTF? Been painful not being able to use Bluetooth in my car and have been waiting for this.
[X Style (Pure) General] jojesa:
Several manufacturers (Acer, Lenovo, Motorola, LG, BlackBerry, Xiaomi) used the 808 chipset and only LG had bootloop issues on several of their devices.

There was a boot stuck issue on the first, and second Nougat releases I got for the Moto X Pure.

There were some other issues I had, that appear to fixed on the latest update I got (25.11.21).

-VoLTE is not draining battery while enable. At least not as fast as it was draining my battery.

-Draining battery while the phone was not been used specially at night. Battery was draining upwards 12% at night not it went back to 3%.

- The device was restarting if I enable Hotspot and connect a device.

-Apps were crashing several times at day. Have not seen one crash yet in two days.

It looks very stable, which is promising.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Thanks for the update. I have to say that between the egregious bugs you're describing here in earlier versions, as well as factory resets bricking phones in the first soak test, I'm legitimately terrified to install any software from these incompetent buffoons. IIRC, there was rarely anything more than minor/niche bugs in soak tests with "real" Moto.

Basically, when it comes to taking the long-awaited OTA... be careful what you wish for. Especially if it breaks the ability to use custom ROMs. :eek:
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
The initial releases you care calling "soak tests" were not, they were in fact live betas... users were told to expect issues and report them to be fixed, how these original beta testers got called soak testers still baffles me a bit, but I know it is because someone leaked into the major Android news organizations saying it was a "soak" when it actually wasn't, it was a test group. So although the factory reset issues was huge, most of the other issues are normal in a test group, and get corrected.

Although I could be wrong, I don't think there was an official "soak test" for Nougat on this device, at least not in the US. I think due to the timeline they pushed the test group along as the soak testers as well, otherwise we would just be entering the soak test now that a stable ROM seems available, for another 30 or so day window, and I don't think even Moto wants that at this time... people are already about to burn the place down due to the extreme lateness of this update.

Oh, and the "breaks custom ROMs" thing is more common than you think... Happens on a lot of devices when a new OS version comes out if there are significant changes under the hood, until the kernel source is released and the proprietary blobs incorporated. Although I won't go as far as saying it's normal, it is far from unheard of. In this case Moto seemed to change something in the RIL and partitioning, which broke stuff. TBH, I don't blame Moto for that part.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Yeah there has been no soak test yet that I am aware of on the pure.
[X Style (Pure) General] qassey:
jojesa "update I got (25.11.21) for the Moto X Pure" ---- where is the backup?
[X Style (Pure) General] pszemek9:
Finally..

Can't add link with screenshot but I get 25.11.15.en.EU (Poland)
[X Style (Pure) General] abense:
Anything good for XT1575 on verizon yet? lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
That's why I went with Square Trade. My vibration motor went out a week ago. They sent me an overnight label, shipped it yesterday and they repaired it and it shipped out to me overnight today. That is as quick a turnaround time you can ask for. Doesn't matter if it is unlocked, rooted or whatever. It did cost me a $75 deductible, but I don't think that is bad for a 2 year old phone. I have a new battery here and am going to replace it as soon as it gets back.
[X Style (Pure) General] drumber42:
Can you provide a link for where you got your replacement battery?
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/292178092122

I have not installed it yet as my phone got delayed coming back from Square Trade by a day.
[X Style (Pure) General] stej16:
mind if I pm you in a month or so to see how the battery is holding up? lol..it really doesn't matter as it seems it's the only battery left on the market, but for value sake. my battery is relatively new, but prolly should buy 1 in advanced as I plan on keeping it as a backup for media in the future.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Not a problem. PM me anytime you like. I'm hoping to have time to install the battery today. Depends on what time FedEx gets here. I just bought a houseboat and want to get down to it and enjoy it a little as well.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
​

Wait, what? If the current reports are true that it wasn't a soak but a limited beta does that still fall under the NDA? I heard some people that were not in a soak received it so why hasn't it spread like a wildfire in the hills yet?
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Limited betas or test drives are certainly covered by the nda.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
There are 2 known cases of this... both devices are bootloader locked and stock, no way to pull the firmware on a locked & stock device. It would basically be the same as the LA or EU firmware anyway, a backup of /boot and /system only since the others (like radios) cannot be extracted properly for reflashing.

I honestly expect the roll out soon, but I don't know if I will still be around when it happens... I changed jobs and my new job requires me to use BYOD for email and a CT Phone app (have to make work calls with their app, not personal number), and I am already seeing my battery deteriorate mostly to more use than before but somewhat because of more apps. That Moto G5 Plus 4/64GB for $249 from B&H Photo Video (or price matched to Best Buy for the points) is looking better and better every day.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Can't believe we haven't got it yet, what a joke.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
My problem is I can't find another device in the same price range that's as good, has pure Android, an unlockable bootloader, good battery life etc... I can knock Moto all day, but show me another device with a SD6xx series SoC or better, 4gb ram, 64gb storage, full HD display, pure Android, 6-8 hour screen on time, and an unlockable bootloader with US LTE bands for $250 (current price on B&H, and Best Buy price matches) and I will gladly consider it, even giving up one of those points. I wish we had access to devices like the Redmi Note 4 here, but sadly it doesn't support any US LTE bands.

The next question is updates... Would we all be so pissed off if Moto hadn't promised quick updates and previously shown 2 years of update history? Moto doesn't promise that anymore. And we could get into the fact that the upgrade really doesn't add much but there is no point. We are rightly pissed with Moto for no doing what they said though. Then again, the G4, G5, and Z devices have so far gotten security updates about once a quarter pretty consistently for well over year.
[X Style (Pure) General] SoNic67:
There are NO other cheaper phones that can work in US on all providers. So that's that...
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
There's a Moto G5S Plus coming out this month. Bigger screen {5.5}, dual back cameras, and more. This is what you should get, imo.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
It's $100 more, and I'm a bit concerned about size... the G5 Plus is a 5.2" screen but the overall size is within 3mm in every dimension of the Pure, which I think is a bit on the big side for my taste, at 5.5" and assuming everything is the same it will be larger than the Pure. Plus, battery life could take a hit with the bigger screen.

I am actually holding off a bit to see how it all plays out actually.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
This thread is the bane of my existence. You guys bicker so much it's on par with the threads over on Windows Mobile/Phone. As far as I'm concerned, this was still a thread about an update? Why are we discussing what phones we are going to buy after we say goodbye to the Style/Pure?

That said, is the rollout actually still going on? This was the first week that I've seen no activity on users receiving an update on Reddit, the Lenovo forums, and here. Quite strange IMO.
[X Style (Pure) General] Az Biker:
* * * THREAD CLEANED * * *

Everyone involved in the chest beating, machismo competition needs to relax.

If you're not interested in posting on-topic and with respect, don't post at all.

This is the only courtesy warning given. If it continues, official action will be taken.

Following the rules is appreciated, and expected.