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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I understand your pain, this was annoying me for a while, hence I added the quick access to the keyboard settings in DeX Hub and access via the 'Meta+K' keyboard shortcut.

It kept changing my default keyboard layout to US English, so whenever I went to enter '@' on my keyboard it would show ' " '(quotation marks) .

I have since installed the English GB package from the Galaxy Apps store, and uninstalled the US english language pack and so far everything has been working fine without resetting itself back to US English.

In DeX Hub I did offer the option to disable the accidental 'shift+space' input changing the default language (partially because I thought that may have been what was resetting the language back to US English), if you have DeX Hub just be sure to check if that option is disabled if you want to access the 'Shift+Space' shortcut, it will be disabled by default though.

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*DEX UPDATES*

This seems to suggest that any updates for DeX will be managed through the 'About DeX' Menu, or at least it will trigger a check for updates whenever you go into the about menu:

[IMG="DeX Updates"]http://thumbsnap.com/i/i6yBgBC8.png?0531[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION], Re Dex version: I've just checked, mine looks the same as from day one...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah, I wasn't expecting any new updates, I was just interested to see that message and retry button inside the 'About DeX' screen as it made me wonder if I need to continuously go in there to check for updates. It only seems to show that message/button every now and again, obviously when there is a poor network connection.

Although, as I previously discovered, Samsungs update checks didn't prove very effective for me, as I needed to go onto 'APK Mirror' to discover that a new version of the browser was available and download the newer version of the desktop browser, which appears to have been available online for a while... which by the way seems to improve the browsers font size in desktop mode.

*DeX Hub update*

I discovered a bug stopping the mouse interacting with the browser properly when 'Enhanced input' was on, it was a result of some of the remaining test code which was used to try and implement support for the ability to inject touch events and adding support for mouse & keyboard button/wheel combinations. So I have now removed that test code, and the unused permissions.

Just a quick note though, if you think that a (keyboard based) key combination is missing to launch a certain application type or system event, let me know and I may implement it if possible. Any app launch from a key combination should be fine to implement without the security limitations holding back DeX Hub, but also if you want to see a key-combo disabled, I can bring the option to disable that, though I can't make the keyboard buttons simulate input events such as touch or mouse input - or inject a space when 'shift+space' is pressed :( sorry about that.

Also if your keyboard has any hotkeys which don't trigger an expected action, let me know, and I'll see if I can add support.

On my keyboard I had a camera hotkey, but DeX didn't support it by default, so I added support to launch the camera app when I first added 'Enhanced input', as I say, if you come across any limitations like this, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Thanks for the tips. I updated to the latest and it seems to be smoother (placebo? I love it regardless).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Thanks!

Yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised if it is somewhat smoother as I removed some additional added code that was only supposed to be there for testing purposes. But I previously left it in there as I was working on implementing several features at once and tried to get some of those more useful features out to the users as soon as they were ready, but this meant that some of the added test code was left in there, but now I have cleaned that up as I have found that it is not possible for me to acheive what I wanted without system level permissions.

Now there is no longer any test code in there performing unnecessary operations in the background.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
I'm glad you got your problem sorted.

I updated the Samsung browser using the apk from APK Mirror. Did you notice anything in particular thats changed or just performance improvements ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The version I previously used had large fonts in the address bar and menu bar, but now they are scaled down to a more desktop suitable size in this version.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
I guess that's something, I'd also like to see the mouse wheel click - new tab implemented.

Has anyone managed to activate Google Assistant through DeX ? I can go into the Google app but it's not the same.

EDIT: Never mind, i used QuickShortcutMaker to create a shortcut to Google Assistant.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Just a quick note to you all.

At the moment, Google's latest developer tools have broken support for custom window sizes, you may have noticed that in some recent DeX Hub releases for example, which has stopped it from starting up in the correct window size.

This may affect all apps that are designed/optimised for DeX for the time being so all of your apps will likely just launch in the same window sizes by default after you clear them from the recent tasks list (unless they are using older development tools and haven't received any app updates for several weeks).

The code that Google has broken is similar to the following:

<layout

android:defaultHeight="480dp"

android:defaultWidth="640dp"

android:gravity="top|end"

android:minHeight="240dp"

android:minWidth="320dp" />

When I try to compile an app with the <layout> section in the apps manifest it just comes up with an error, though the exact same code worked fine several weeks ago. It started when Google released updates to the developer tools during Google I/O.

I thought that you guys should know, just incase you were wondering why most (recently updated) apps (when in true window - dev mode) launch within the same window size as one another.

-------------------------------- [MENTION=2317094]dusanzk[/MENTION]

Would you like me to add a keyboard shortcut to DeX Hub for G-Assist? i.e. Meta+1 (Windows key + 1) or some other key combination for GA?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dusanzk:
There's no need. I use Google Assistant but not that often, I'm also not much of a keyboard guy, I use the mouse more, i know the keyboard does it faster :p

I appreciate the thought.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I may consider adding it at some point anyway, I just need to work out what unused keyboard combination would make sense to be used to launch voice assist! :)

*EDIT*

Now 'Meta+1' launches your voice assistant of choice in DeX Hub.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I have just experienced that bug. I had to restart my device just now, but it is working fine again now, I am typing this up on it now.

So if you experience it again just hold the power button and click restart, it should fix the problem.

*EDIT*

When I just went to undock my phone, I noticed that the phone was pretty cool, but the dock was very hot :eek:

I have a USB keyboard, USB 3.5mm headphone & microphone jack adapter, the HDMI & USB-C adapters attached.

I'm guessing that something inside of the dock is causing problems which may be what lead to the input bug earlier.

I think that the audio adapter may require too much power for the dock to handle...

I have an old USB-OTG adapter that separates the power and data so that the USB doesn't require any power from the device, it can use the power from another source. I'll see if that fixes the heat problem, and report back.

*Update*

Well so far so good, it works fine over the USB-OTG cable splitter and the dock is staying relatively cool.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] karstenodense1:
Thanks a lot. I did call Samsung support earlier, but they did not have any solutions. I assumed the dex dock was broken, and returned it. Maybe I will buy another as it seemed fine for surfing on internet. The Dex is too narrow to have a case on the S8. I don´t know if it is possible to connect the Dex and the dock with an usb-c extension cable. Do you think so?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah, me and a few others on here have used it with a USB extension connected to where the phone typically sits and it works fine!

I think that the fan on the back of the dock must not be to cool the phone, but rather the dock when you are using USB accessories which require additional power, because since I switched to the USB cable which brings power from another source but still sends the data to/from the phone it is not getting hot at all
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] karstenodense1:
Will the phone be charging when you use a usb-c extension cable? I thouht the fan was to cool down because of the wireless charging by docking to Dex.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Sv3nDV:
I don't think that fan cools anything of substance. The vent holes are pretty small, and there is no venting from the fan to the guts of the Dex. All that is on the "moveable" part of the Dex is the fan. On that note, there is nothing really cooling the parts of the Dex either. I don't even think the crappy metal shield touches any component inside. If there is something sucking a lot of power, I wouldn't doubt it would overheat.

Now you got me wanting to plug random crap into the Dex and see if I can get it to cook :D

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:51 PM ----------

The phone will charge just fine, everything is done through the USB-C cable. There is no wireless charging going on with the Dexstation. The fan is supposed to cool the phone down, but I doubt it helps much. Maybe this would be a good time to pull out a thermometer and test if that fan does anything.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Just an observation, when I undock the phone the monitor would go into Standby (or sleep) mode, but when I lock the phone (e.g. press the Power button) the monitor would be blackout but not go into Standby mode. Wonder if there is a way to force the monitor going into Standby mode while the phone is docked. Thanks,
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah I experienced that myself, now when I'm finished using DeX I just turn off the display and the device exits DeX mode automatically.

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*DEX PAD*

DeX Pad is now free for all!

Thanks to the people who supported Dex Hub with their donations, I decided that I will update DeX Pad and release it for free (and ad-free). :)

DeX Pad is a simple app designed for those of us who need a quick way to take notes without the startup screens that other apps like MS Word have.

It is by no means designed to compete with MS word, it is just a quick and simple app with support for Multi-Instances.

If you regularly used 'Notepad' on MS Windows, then this app is designed for you!

Unfortunately, the Android developer tools don't currently allow me to add an appropriate default startup window size, so for now, just be patient, I will optimise it later to use a better default window size. And I will also do the same with DeX Hub too when Google have fixed this issue in the developer tools to enable the developers to set custom window sizes.

Any feedback would be welcomed! :)

[IMG="DeX Pad"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0p08R4K2QsmrDQKey-plkkEkjijYS8nxEAI71H9HWsXnJfWsRYjjOF7pkP5LC2HBuOU=h600-rw[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
It behaves slightly different with my monitor. If I turned the monitor off, Dex would remain as docked and would resum when I turn the monitor back on. However it would exit Dex if I pulled the HDMI cable out physically.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah, my old DVI monitor is the same, but all of my native HDMI displays that I have tried so far support the power off trigger.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Mine is connected to a Samsung 27" curve gaming monitor (http://www.samsung.com/sg/monitors/lc27fg70fqexxs/) using a native HDMI cable. I also tried connecting it to a Dell 24" via HDMI and it exhibits the same behavior. Tried also with a brand new cable and result was the same. I prefer it this way though :laugh:, just wonder why:confused:!

Add: I tried powering it off via soft-switch as well as pulling the plug, results were the same!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Oh OK, I just suspected that this was default native-HDMI behaviour.

The only reason I use the power button on my monitor is because I feel that the DeX lacks a power button within the start menu to enable the S8 to exit DeX mode and automatically put the external display into standby mode.

I think that to put the external display output into standby there may be a required firmware update to the S8 and maybe even the DeX dock.

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*DeX Apps Updates*

DeX Hub:

I have become aware that the DeX Hub 'Enhanced Input' was causing performance issues, so I have rebuilt the whole engine for 'Enhanced Input' to remove these performance issues.

DeX Pad:

Now has a workaround to launch the app in a more appropriately sized (smaller) window. Though due to the bugs that Google have created in the current developer tools I can't currently use the more effective window sizing system, so this will just launch all multi-instances on top of one another, requiring you to drag them away from one another. I hope to fix this in the future, and I have reported this to Google.

Note, this workaround also forces the mobile version into a window by default.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Gautch:
Hey gang,

I got my S8, and am super interested for the Dex but I need to be able to use a web app.

Can one of you test it for me? Maybe post screen shots or better a video of it working?

It's called Figma.com it's a web based design app. If you do have a moment to test it you can create a free account.

I'd like to see if you can create shapes, text, etc... And also move them around and resize them.

This is the last "app" I need to completely switch over to a Dex and ditch my laptop.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
If you have any concerns about web apps just test them in the Samsung Browser on your phone in landscape and click 'request desktop site'.

If it works there, it will work in DeX.

*Technical* Also Samsung Browsers user agent tells websites that it is a Linux desktop browser.

DeX provides a desktop browsing experience pretty much identical to that of other desktop OS', but be sure to use the Samsung browser, Google chrome is rubbish in desktop mode in comparison, also Samsung Browser has support for ad blocker extensions.

I imagine that Google may make desktop optimisations for Chrome on Android by the end of summer.

*Edit*

Also note that you can shortcut web apps to the desktop and it cuts the top off the browser making it feel more like a native app!.

*UPDATE*

Screenshot added
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Gautch:
*Edit

Thank you!

It doesn't look like you can create/edit anything though.

Bummer.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I only just signed up and taken the photo, I hadn't even confirmed my email, so I'm not sure if that is anything to do with it...

I have never used the service before...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
I tried it with confirmed email etc. but when I tried to open a Sample file I got a "Access Revoked" message and nothing got loaded. I could creat a new file but the drawing tools won't show up. I tried using Chrome, the premitive broswer of Google, but wasn't able to load anything, or creat any file with that crap!

Add: Screenshot attached
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Gautch:
That's odd.

But thank you for checking!

I need to source me a Bluetooth mouse then try it myself. Seems though it might not work. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION], the "Disable Shift+Space... " option in DexHub doesn't seem to work any more after the last update. Can you please take a look at it? Thanks,
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I'm busy for most of today, but I'll look into it later.

Sorry about the hiccup...

Just a minor bug that came with moving to the new performance optimised system.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
With Dex, mouse is our composite finger with multi-functions. Simply rolling the wheel allows us to roll thru multiple pictures in split of a second. Unfortunately many applications are not optimised for mouse operations. For example, most PC based pictures viewers allow us to browse the pics one after another quickly without the sliding transition effect. It makes it easy to compare two similar pics (e.g. before and after image). I've been looking thru tha Play Store but can't find any viewers that can do that. If anyone of you is aware of such viewers, your sharing would be very much appreciated.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=4278401]KenHua[/MENTION]: I've fixed that 'shift+space' bug.

Sorry again for the mistake. If you spot anymore, please let me know.

I aren't aware of any picture viewers like that on Android though there may be some.

But on the subject of mouse input, I would appreciate if Samsung can detect if an app has code optimised for a mouse when the app is started and then automatically switch to emulate touch input swiping for apps that dont support mouse scrolling.

Also if the app doesn't have mouse optimisations, then why not use the middle mouse button to enable any mouse movement to simulate a gesture? i.e. pinch to zoom.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION], Thank you very much, shift+space works according to option selected now.

I think the best pinch-to-zoom simulation would be Ctrl+mousewheel. Ctrl+/- are good options too, it is consistent with many PC pgm implematations. The current Ctrl+ zooming we have just enlarge the pixels, which is different than the pinching effect. The other thought I've is to use the Middle button to anchor the 1st finger and dragging the mouse to simulate the 2nd finger in pinching. The current double-click + drag does not work with many apps. It also conflicts with words selection in text areas.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Yeah, the only reason I didn't suggest the ctrl+mouse wheel gesture was because of concerns about it conflicting with the apps that do support this, and as a result, zooming in way too quickly...

But I guess that if Samsung can detect that the app is lacking the code to detect any mouse input, then this shouldn't be a problem.

'ctrl+ +/-' zooming was something I added to DeX Hub as a temporary workaround until Samsung could bring us a better zoom alternative. Unfortunately I wanted the zoom to follow the mouse, but I can't track the mouse pointer, so I just have to zoom into the center of the screen...

If I could possibly find a way to detect mouse events and simulate events (performed outside of DeX Hub) without security limitations getting in the way, then I think that I could bring many more functions to 'Enhanced Input', but due to these limitations, I think that we may just have to rely on Samsung implementing these functions into DeX...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION], regarding Ctrl +/- zooming, it would be great if it can work as pinching action on the active app instead of zooming into a screen-print. Thanks,
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
I contacted Figma about the problem of no Drawing Tools, for whatever it's worth below is their reply based on a wrong assumption:

"Hi! This error is happening because your version of Chrome is really old. It should work if you upgrade to Chrome 58.

Biru*from Figma Support"
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
That was one of my original plans, but I don't seem to be allowed to inject gesture events from what I can tell.

So far I have only found a way to utilise the Access service to enable me to trigger the system magnifier...

I will continue to look into finding a workaround for these limitations, but I don't want to make any promises just yet...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*Experience update*

So I don't know if this is just me experiencing this, but often when I ever so slightly nudge the dock, the device exits DeX mode.

I believe that this may be due to the power cable being a little loose or something, but it can get really annoying if I need to reposition the dock...

This makes me a little more excited for the expected update which will enable you to use DeX without an external power source, which will reduce the chance of DeX mode exiting when I slightly nudge the dock.

This feature update hasn't been officially confirmed yet, but as I mentioned before, when I scanned through the source code files for DeX it appeared to have some text warning you about your battery decreasing much more quickly in DeX mode than in phone mode if you are running without an external power source.

And also I think that this would make more sense of the battery icon staying in the system tray area as it does now, though I would like it to automatically hide when at 100% and connected to the mains to reduce clutter in the system tray area.

To be honest, I aren't too concerned about DeX mode using up too much power on battery power only, because I know that the S8+ has good battery life anyway for how I use the device, as on a typical day, I haven't seen the battery go below 75% since I started using the S8+ back in april.

*EDIT*

Switched to a third party USB-C cable that has a tighter fit and the dock isn't triggering DeX mode to exit, even when I deliberatley hold the dock in the air and shake it, in an attempt to make it disconnect!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Mine has held up quite well against any dock motion so far. The more challenging moment is when trying to take pics in landscape mode with all the wires (Power, HDMI, 2 USB) attached. I intend to try out using extension wire as suggested. I've a desktop phone holder that's a lot more flexible.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] sandman997:
Hey guys sorry if this this the wrong section but i just have a question, last week i got an s8+ and im wondering

1) will dex work with a UAG case on the phone or do i need to remove it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] L0SW0LF0S:
DeX-optimized video viewer

Hey DeXies :cowboy:

Was just wandering whether any of you has a hint for a DeX-optimized video viewer. VLC player is not bad but has too few keyboard shortcuts. Also, turning up playback speed is a hustle although a bluetooth joypad helps a bit (glad that it works!). Free or paid app is equally working for me...

Unfortunately playstore apps do not give any hints - can you? :D
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Ramer:
You'll have to remove the case or do what I did, get the extension cable that is mentioned earlier in this thread. It works great with Dex.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Milioti:
Just got hold of a new S8+ and Samsung Dex, but was wondering if anyone managed to get the dex (desktop mode) working in portrait mode?

I tried calling Samsung but to no avail they are unable to provide any solutions.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Currently there is no options to customise the external display settings, although I would expect this to be added in a future update.