yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Vox] PrivateI:
uummm,...

I am not sure what you mean, to be honest.

but the Phone is not "tuned" in any way.

I have no additional programs installed or overclocked the phone. and for 3 months in usage before, I did not have this malfunction (asaik).

Let me state, that I always have bluetooth turned off.
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
Could you look up what radio and ROM version you have?! Where did you buy it and what language is it?
[HTC Vox] PrivateI:
"CE-ROM update versionen":

Operator: 5.2.1235.17740

"Funkempfängerversion (= Radio Version):

4.1.13.37_02.83.90

Provider Orange

Language German
[HTC Vox] PrivateI:
ROM-Version 1.16.407.1

Radio-version 4.1.13.37_02.83.90
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
I saw your Post on MoDaCo, did this help you? Otherwise you might wanna flash a new ROM?!
[HTC Vox] jfran:
you might want to do a hard reset b4 reflashing!
[HTC Vox] PrivateI:
I still am collecting advices. So far I haven`t taken any steps to solve the problem despite asking in different portals.

So you think, I should prefer flashing a new ROM instead of or before installing that Bluetooth Hotfix by HTC?

Is there a ROM version that is known to be "the best" or "the worst"?
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
No no try the hotfix first! Way less work to do! And safer anyways! I fyou're satisfied with your ROM then there is no need to flash!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] .psd:
EDIT: There are probably dozens of reviews/comparisons, but here are two just from today that are also harsh: Krystal Key and PocketNow. And UrAverageConsumer's wife's comments here and here "it does look a little washed out...it is a little soft...I'm not a fan of it...it's good enough..."

The consensus seems to be that the front camera is "soft" (aka it looks permanently out of focus or blurry), the rear cam consistently blows out highlights with or without HDR, and video is wobbly and distorted despite ois AND eis. To be clear (pun intended) this is not a problem with the sensors, but with Samsung's processing. If Google's Camera app didn't disable HDR+ on non-Nexus devices then the S8 it would very likely take the best pictures of any smartphone ever.

Here are my samples shot with my S8 with the better Sony sensors, and a Nexus 6P from 18 months ago. For maximum quality from the S8, HDR is enabled and beauty disabled. 6P is in auto mode. Be sure to right click on the side-by-side compilation images and open in a new tab to see them at full size, where the detail quality—rather than just the light/color quality—is most apparent.

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FULL GALLERY

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Rear Cam Side-by-Side 1/2 - VIEW AT 100%

Full Res: N6P — GS8

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Rear Cam Side-by-Side 2/2 - VIEW AT 100%

Full Res: N6P — GS8

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Front Cam Set 1/5: N6P — GS8

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Front Cam Set 2/5: N6P — GS8

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Front Cam Set 3/5: N6P — GS8

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Front Cam Set 4/5: N6P — GS8

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Front Cam Set 5/5: N6P — GS8

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BONUS - 2MP tablet front cam with no HDR from 2015

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SUPER BONUS - Mystery camera! Can you guess?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] willymcd:
My first impression of the camera coming from a S6, is that it sucks, yes it's better in low light, but if there is decent to good light it is much worse, all my pictures look muddy where the S6 taken at its side looks sharp. really ruins the phone for me!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
Good lord. GSMArena, AnandTech, and Notebookcheck do exhaustive

subjective

reviews. GSMArena's and Notebookcheck's camera evaluations are linked below. Spoiler alert: they don't agree with your

objective

testing of your sister's phone.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8-review-1603p9.php

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-SM-G955F-Smartphone-Review.213438.0.html
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Semseddin:
Samsung frontcams are always behind the competition. Not sure why. Agreed with OP's honest review.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] .psd:
I also included nearly 30 minutes of reviews of the camera by PocketNow and Krystal Key, but there are likely dozens of reviews by now showing the same thing.

The front cam looks like it's always out of focus—what reviewers universally are calling "soft". The rear cam consistently blows out the highlights even with HDR on. Video is wobbly and distorted despite having OIS AND EIS. In all cases, this is due to Samsung's processing because devices with inferior sensors from Google or Apple don't have these problems.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] eniorodriig:
Something here in which i agree is that over-exposing. The Galaxy S8 loves doing this in certain situations where it shouldn't be doing but most of all is the auto-focus feature for me. Auto-Focus can be a mess when it wants too, simple macros where it should focus with ease it can't do that. I took my S6 and i found that in certain situations it was able to get a faster better macro with one tap compared to the S8. I felt that this one is a bit sloppy, and requires a lot of fiddling to get a good focus point. But don't get me wrong, whenever the phone is able to focus and does a good job in auto mode the photos look amazing. Overall my only complaint is the auto-focus on close-up shots and some over exposing. I really think these can be tweaked with a software update but honestly this phone should have had a completely new rear camera in the first place without being forced to wait for the new Note. I still believe this phone was a bit rushed, it looks stunning and awesome performance but man those software tweaks and scrolling bugs, and stutters and red screens could have been avoided. Oh yes.. let's not forget that Image Stabilization , wobbly videos and front face focus as mentioned above, i think these sometimes do a mess of a job. Real let down from the camera side of things for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shinew:
I didn't do detailed comparison but for rear camera, which is the one i care the most, my S8+ seems similar and even slightly better than my Note 7.

Consumer Reports did more detailed comparison, they think the s8 has the best 12MP camera there is. And according this photo, in low light it's indeed a lot better than the s7.

https://youtu.be/3MmjHMWwtPU

So no, the s8 rear camera is NOT The Worst On A Flagship Phone In Years
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Darkestred:
My short time with the camera is the opposite. S8 front is marginally better than the 6p. Will do more testing.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
No issues, amazing camera. Coming from a Pixel, pixel does look nicer but not by far.

When someone is doing pixel peeping, i am sure you can find flaws about every cameras out there. I look at overall quality and usability such as speed of launch and speed of taking the actual picture. After all phone pictures are all about capturing the moment.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] DAvid_B:
Turn off one of the stabilizations. They dont both need to be on. Also, every samsung has let you adjust the exposure level..
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Crew One:
The pictures are a lot better than the pictures the HTC M8 took.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] .psd:
Any examples? I posted several, and I've not come across a single instance where the S8 is superior.

I just bought this phone for $800 and have the Nexus 6P sitting right next to me. Money isn't an issue. I don't make income from hyping the S8 or from my brand. I have no interest in suggesting the S8 camera is any better or worse than it is. Would be really interested to see you post actual selfies like I did to support your claim that, despite reviews and my 10 pictures posted, the S8 takes superior front cam pictures.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jer21:
Whoa, no way the s6 takes better pictures. I just did my own comparison and ask the s6 photos are so dark and fuzzy
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Darkestred:
I never said anything about that. I just said in my use i feel its better. Here are 2 sample pics i did. I dont have any fancy setup so its all manual and i realize my pictures are not lined up but i got lazy. I feel the color in the s8 is way nicer and while it does get soft or blend in details like my scruff - i still think overall it does a nicer shot. Its not always a perfect shot. out of the 6 i took one came out blurry.

If my pictures aren't perfect enough - i really do not care. Take it for what its worth.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3F4QJb82X1ReV9mVUMzRzJTdmc
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] vlug:
I too made a thread because I noticed how soft this front camera is. I'm super disappointed.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kornelius1982:
[MENTION=3627087].psd[/MENTION]

I appreciate the work you did, but can you provide the original pics with EXIF data included?

thx
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie Hicks:
Here is a great review on the S8 camera. https://youtu.be/NAEVPxQ4MCw
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] n2851991m:
Looking at the pics it does look like the S8 shots are worse(maybe not) / different from other phones. In all of these reviews the one thing no one has mentioned is that smartphone cameras are largely software dependent. While the S8 is on software that has come right out of the box, 6p as used here has had a whole year's worth of updates some of which definitely did bring updates to the camera software. I still love the S8 and believe that future software updates can and will iron out the issues with the camera. (Just hoping Samsung doesn't drop the ball on the updates front).
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] .psd:
That's the one I linked in the OP...??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] .psd:
No because image hosts strip the metadata for user protection (e.g. location data) and it would take too long to do it for each picture the following way (e.g. undelete them from google photos and screencap some of the metadata minus the location, then save each file, then upload it, then link it here):

Here's the data for 2 of them to prove they were shot on the S8:

#1 — #2
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kornelius1982:
Dont get me worng, I`m sure you`re not cheating, I just wanted to look at camera settings of each picture.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie Hicks:
ooops, I didn't click the links in the OP. I just bumped into that video searching for something else, and felt it could add to this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] barondebxl:
That's not hard to do no offense
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] daveribss:
I was looking at different articles comparing the cameras of both the iPhone 8 Plus camera and S8+. Both got pretty good reviews everywhere and were praised for their quality, but what struck me the most is this sample shot on gsmarena (link: http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8131&idPhone2=8523&idPhone3=8505)

I know its just one sample out of everything, but I was surprised at how the S8+ got to keep the textured pattern really accurate. Granted the low light one are not shot at same ISO and shutter speed, but still a very noticeable difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jostian:
S8 imho is pretty awesome IQ wise, better than the G6 with much less processing and smearing, I like the more natural look from the S8, very chuffed. see 100% crop below, no over-processing etc, looks really good.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jostian:
yes, very true, iPhone still has that heavy handed processing, if you check the rubber bands between the iPhone 8 and S8 (see below) you'll see how over processed the iPhone 8 is, even at low iso, horrible.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Marvinho+:
I totally agree with you on the Front Cam. But the Rear Cam is clearly better on the S8. In your example pictures all the white and grey stuff (shoes, bed etc.) is blue with the Nexus Camera. Also the shoes, carpet or the texture of the blanket looks sharper and more detailed on the S8, at least in my opinion.

Although it´s true, that the S8 tends to overexpose, it´s only one quick touch to correct that, even in automatic mode.

I think it´s fair to say, that the S8 Camera is not as good as the Cameras of the Iphone 8, Pixel and HTC U11, but it´s definitely better than N6P and other Flagships of last and this generation.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] marcox92:
Rear Camera

I have a permanent bug using the rear camera

When phone turned on, cam works normally

Then, after a while (1 day ?) rear cam is on a 'macro mode" and does not focus anymore.

I have to turn it OFF/ ON again even reset sometimes

I send it to Samsung support and return it says cam works OK if you use standard Samsung drivers !

Have you an idea of a software that can change the camera driver ?

Thanks for help

(by the way, how to disable Bixby Button )
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pogi.paul0119:
It's not software it's a hardware issue. Mine behaved the same and called the samsung butler (don't know if you have it in your country) and I was told to bring it on the nearest Samsung service centre, and the butler told me that I can get a new replacement for it

, so to make the story short I got a brand new phone and the problem is gone. Btw the phone is still in warrantee.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Netherdrake034:
I don't know what some of you guys are whining about... S8 camera is amazing and top 3 amongst best smart phone cameras in the world.
[Android Apps and Games] dcatoffm:
Having revisited this thread, I noticed I forgot a step, now fixed.

I still use this phone. A couple small glitches have developed over time which may be related to using a cheap sd card, but, basically I have an app with a bad id, it's disabled anyway so I just ignore it on boot (the I'm feeling lucky button). Also, if there is a glitch that prevents a proper shutdown, the second partition may get corrupted. It is impossible to boot with the card unmounted without causing a bunch of other app related issues, so the only way to deal with it cleanly is shut down, remove the card, and fix it on another computer (preferably linux), then reinsert the card before booting the device back up.

Also, after another week, "app data" on the card stopped working right: existing moves caused errors and new moves failed, so I just moved all app data back to internal. Again, this may be just related to using a cheap card, and it was around the same time the bad id occurred, so I'm sure there's some unresolved corruption that just plain isn't getting fixed without a factory reset. It's getting about time to do that, so if I can score a new card and some time to set it up, I'll post how it goes. Apps themselves, dolvik, and libraries continue to work on the sd card without issue on most apps.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
UPDATE: Hey guys! Easiest way to update to the new Nougat firmware & reroot with SuperSU currently is to install this debloated rom I just made. It does it all in one flash. :)

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=72098300

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No doubt, there's already a ton of posts about this, but I decided to make this guide anyway for those who maybe prefer SuperSU over Magisk and just want to update Android and reroot quickly and easily. This method will get you rooted before you even boot up the Nougat firmware for the first time. Just be sure, of course, to BACKUP ALL YOUR DEVICE DATA BEFORE DOING THIS.

NOTE: If you use the

Samsung Health

app then be sure to read this post through to the end.

DOWNLOADS:(click to open links)

Odin

Nougat stock firmware

TWRP

SuperSU Nougat Fix Zip(Do not use the official SuperSU zip. It will result in "stuck at creating image" error.)

no-verity-opt-encrypt(Attached below.)

1) Install & open Odin. Uncheck "Auto Reboot" in the Options tab. Then follow the instructions pictured below to flash the firmware package to your device.

2) Once it's finished recheck "Auto Reboot" and flash TWRP the same way. IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT REBOOTS and the screen goes blank, hold Volume Up, Home key and power buttons to boot into TWRP. (Otherwise it will launch Android setup.)

NOTE: If for whatever reason the firmware and TWRP won't flash back to back then just reboot into Download mode again and finish with flashing TWRP. It seems that will happen on occasion on more recent versions of Odin.

3) Once TWRP loads, connect your device and drag and drop the "no-verity" and "supersu" files(from above) to the root of your sdcard.

4) Go to "Install" and select the "no-verity-opt-encrypt" file. Then click the "Add more Zips" button and add the SuperSU file as well and swipe to flash.

5) Reboot into Android and complete device setup.

You should now be rooted with Nougat and SuperSU! :)

BONUS:

Easy way to fix the

Samsung Health

"device has been compromised" or "can't be opened on a rooted device" errors.

1) Download an app from the Play Store called "BuildProp Editor".

2) Search for "ro.config.tima".

3) Click on it and change the "1" to a "O".

4) Reboot device.

If this helped you, then please consider hitting the "Thanks" or Donate button. Thank you!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] rmarinella:
Nice guide!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Thank you! Holy OP quote though. Haha! :p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] DrRootso:
Any problems with Samsung Account after root? Mine works fine unrooted but won't stay logged in after. Curiosity and what not....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] JonathanRAZ:
I had same problem but it fixed....i am deodexed rooted with magisk clean installed and setup with mobile data thats all i did and works fine for now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] skills2015:
odin

when I try to connect my phone to odin its not reading the phone where it says added. anyone else experience this in this version of odin? I have usb debugging checked, plus oem checked. I have also tried different usb cables and other odin applications.......weird.:eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] javierduran:
Try to download the drivers here:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...G_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones_v1.5.45.00.exe
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
I have not experienced any issues myself. Everything should work fine on stock firmware. The only problem I found was with Samsung Health not working with root, but I provided the fix for that in the OP. Maybe try removing the account in Settings and adding it back manually. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] JonathanRAZ:
I dont think it will let him added it will say session expired even after entering it again....he might have to factory reset and setup again or setup via mobile data
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Strange I haven't seen this issue. Is it a Magisk problem? I signed into Samsung Account during initial device setup and its been working fine.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] JonathanRAZ:
No is not magisk i have it installed and all is fine on this side.....it can be on setup the problem the first time i had i setup with wifi and after changing to mobile dta had session expired....i dont know if is that or not but since i have setup via mobile data it works fine no problems
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Weren't you using that unrooted rom from the other thread? Maybe there was a problem there.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] JonathanRAZ:
No i was stock rooted with magisk......then was on my own deodexed rom.....then now i am on that unrooted rom.....and later on will be on a new one i will make after installing windows 10
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] justin94:
thanks for this. sadly volte isnt working for me so ill be using the stock tweaked rom, hopefully it works. but using this root method. thanks again!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Still don't get how anyone could be having any issues with any Android features. If you're flashing the stock firmware, everything should work. VoLTE seems to be working fine for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] justin94:
bad flash probably. but this root method worked on that stock tweaked rom. everything is working.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] geeshiet:
Anyone know the differences between magisk and supersu? Pros and cons for both.. I was thinking about doing the magisk root but I've always rooted with supersu.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Maximus2102:
I followed the steps but it doesn't seem to be working well for me. I can flash the stock FW fine but when I try to flash TWRP odin doesn't go through the process. I shut down the phone and went back into download mode and that allowed me to flash TWRP. I booted immediately into TWRP and flashed the two files (no-verity & Nougat Root SU - no Kernel ) from the links provided. I performed the wipe as suggested before flashing the two files in TWRP. When I reboot the phone I'm greeted with the message Kernel not seandriod enforcing. Is it because I'm using the wrong Root SU file?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Maximus2102:
Nevermind. I was able to get passed it but I flashed Magisk instead. I'm up and running with Rooted Nougat.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
I made this tutorial because I've always felt SuperSU to be more reliable personally. The last rom I had forced you to use Magisk and I didn't like it. Magisk just kind of seems like too bulky of a package for me. Too much extra stuff, going on and sometimes(a couple versions back) the package updates can be faulty and even cause device reboots. SuperSU, to me, just seems lighter and more reliable and concise.

Rebooting is fine, though there shouldn't be a problem flashing both in a row. It does take about 10-20 seconds or so sometimes before it will let you load the next one.

The kernel not seandroid enforcing message has never been anything to worry about. It's just Samsung's of way of telling you that the kernel has been modified to allow for root. You shouldn't have that message though with SuperSU, as SuperSU uses a systemless root method. So if you're seeing that, then you've done something additional that's modified the kernel. What "Root SU file" did you mean? Flashing the SuperSU zip roots the device. No extra files are needed.

You got rid of SuperSU because you saw "kernel not seandroid enforcing" message? Again that message is nothing to be concerned about. You'll see the same thing if you install a custom kernel, but again, if you were seeing that message during this process, then you did something wrong or did an extra step.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Maximus2102:
Thanks for the info bogarty. My phone wasnt moving past the boot screen so I thought there was an issue. After installing twrp i flashed N920_Nougat_Root_SuperSU_No_kernel_included.zip and the No-Verity zip from the OP. After flashing those files i was stuck on the boot screen with that seandroid message. I waited and waited but my phone never moved passed it so i restarted from the begining and used magisk instead.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Hmm...Did you use the most recent TWRP linked above? Did you see any errors during install? Did you properly wipe everything(more than just standard wipe) beforehand?

Nevertheless, anyway you can get root is good though. Life is very sad and dull without it. [emoji14]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Maximus2102:
Very sad indeed! Thanks again for the info and help.