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[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
If this is discovered quickly, which I would assume it would be.. the roll-out will be halted and it will go back to the developers to fix before the whole mess starts again... Internal beta, soak test, trial release, full release. From what I can tell we are in trial release right now, if it is halted and sent back to the developers, we are looking at a 30-60 day delay in release.

This is the problem with releasing a major upgrade after the warranty is expired on most handsets, even if it goes wrong for a few, all Moto has to do is say it is out of warranty and forget about it... Whether they would or not would depend on how widespread the issue is, if it causes lots of handsets to fail and they can't be fixed without being sent in, Moto will likely have them fixed free in warranty or give you a $XX credit towards a new one if out of warranty. How they handle it will vary based on the impact, both perceived and real by the general public. Better to replace 10,000 phones than be known as the company that bricked 10,000 phones and did nothing.
[X Style (Pure) General] HaggisIV:
Any chance that we'll get a flashable zip of stock 7.0?

I know TruPure isn't being updated anymore but it would be really convenient if we could just flash back to stock.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hitti2:
As soon as xposed is found on 7, I will install.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Yeah. I'm really thinking about the lack of Xposed. With Xposed, amplify, and Greenify, I already get better battery life than before so I wonder how much nougat will really help.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Enjoy Xposed while you can... it will die, it might be with Nougat or maybe not, but it will happen soon. If you read some of the threads in the Xposed Section you will see that development of Xposed for Nougat is pretty much at a halt, not even working beta code, plus there hasn't been a commit to Rovo89's source code since November.

According to Rovo89's last official word on Xposed, it will take "hundreds of hours of work" to get working on Nougat, but his "time for Xposed stuff" was about 5 hours a week. Then he says "You can do the math yourselves.". In another post (can't find the reference) he said it would take 500-600 hours of total work to get finished, meaning at 5 hours a week that is 100-120 weeks from his last official word at the end of January... So around 2 years?!?!?!

I could be wrong, but I kinda took that as "Xposed is a dead horse, please stop beating it"... Could be wrong I guess, but it doesn't look too good anytime soon.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Not arguing there. I read Rovo89's post a short while back and pretty much got the same concept when I read his post in regards to not expecting too much past marshmallow. It was more in point that I'm in no rush to update at the moment. Like Rovo89, life keeps me busy so going back to full stock unrooted takes time that is limited to me. The main, and perhaps only, feature of the nougat update I'm interested in is the better doze capability since battery on the MXPE is probably the biggest drawback of this device. Just wondering if the gain from stock Nougat is decent enough. With amplify and Greenify, I'm pretty much already tweaking doze mode.
[X Style (Pure) General] ShapeShifter499:
Well I just got my replacement in the mail and I haven't been able to get the update to 7.0 with or without a SIM card. Guess I'll go to LineageOS again.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Patience my young Padawan. Lol
[X Style (Pure) General] user7743:
I couldn't agree more. Certain people are like broken records, grab the update and post it here. On and on...

If its that important to have, try Lineage or similar, else wise don't waste your life pining for an update... You only live once
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Xposed Framework and Google Now!

I'd be quite surprised if that is actually the case. Do they have any solid numbers to back that up or just the placebo effect? If the Rom can actually put apps to sleep properly, then that does reduce the need for app management Xposed tweaks, which would just leave the need for non-Xposed-based ad-blocking to render the Xposed framework officially obsolete.

As for when the Xposed Framework will be updated for Android N, word on the street was that it is coming in 2018, but by then, we'll have Android Oreo to look forward to, so then the process will start all over again.

Google Now Launcher is actually halfway decent too. It supports landscape mode, widget resizing, and a vertical app drawer.
[X Style (Pure) General] frankie1220:
MXPE does have a short battery life especially if you have Android wear constantly sucking battery. Clean Master is on freeze along with other useless system apps with Titanium and a ton of other stuff on Greenify. I like stock rooted if possible. But custom ROMs may be our way to actually enjoy Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
I went stock and rooted with TWRP and aroma gapps. Using the Pixel Launcher with no issues. Removed the stock camera and installed the modified apk for the new moto camera. Hated the stock one as it kept taking pictures from the inside of my pocket ?. I used lineage for awhile but it just didn't have the stability to use as a daily driver. I also removed the Launcher config from system so I get 5 rows on the Launcher like Nexus/Pixel.
[X Style (Pure) General] ShapeShifter499:
The latest update so far before 7.0 is 6.0 with December security patch?
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Correct
[X Style (Pure) General] clarkcant:
Same here. Until last week. I took the plunge and rooted + flashed a ROM (AICP), and I couldn't have made a better decision. The ROM is snappy, bugless, and offers more features than the pending official build will. I intend to stay with this ROM even after Moto sends the OTA.

Oh, and I get OTAs every night in AICP. [emoji41]

Sent from my Moto X Pure running AICP

twitter.com/michaelbrgmn
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Yeah I've been using Nougat ROMs on and off but I'm sticking with stock until Android O comes out... do you use Snapchat? My main concern with Nougat ROMs is that Snapchat is absolutely terrible.
[X Style (Pure) General] clarkcant:
I don't use SC, so can't comment on that. And Moto X Pure won't be receiving O, unless it's via a ROM! Lineage had already confirmed support.

Sent from my Moto X Pure running AICP

twitter.com/michaelbrgmn
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Alrighty... I might give it a go later, I haven't tried AICP. And yes my car will be able to reach speeds of up to 1000mph before we get Android O, or even N at the current rate... Good good at least some devs care about our device.
[X Style (Pure) General] clarkcant:
Let us know how that works out! From experience, I can tell you that Lineage will likely have the least bugs, which may help with your Snapchat issue. AICP is my favorite ROM, and it has a very marginal amount of bugs. They're usually fixable, and the devs run a very snappy Google+ community. Good luck!

Sent from my Moto X Pure running AICP

twitter.com/michaelbrgmn
[X Style (Pure) General] BruceWayne54:
Yup, I've used Lineage and Remix, both were very good and smooth except on Snapchat. I tried using the LA Nougat update briefly and Snapchat worked better than I'd ever seen it on my phone. AICP sounds compelling and I might just try it if we don't get Nougat in the US before August.
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
Do you have a link to information regarding Lineage confirming Android O for clark?

Just curious, I did a brief search and didn't find anything.
[X Style (Pure) General] clarkcant:
I can try to post a link later. In the meantime, I believe I saw it on their website. Check for a list of O supported devices.

Sent from my Moto X Pure running AICP

twitter.com/michaelbrgmn
[X Style (Pure) General] antariksh:
It's not official. But here's the list: http://www.lineageosrom.com/2017/03/los-15-list-of-devices-getting-lineage.html
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
??? I thought in Canada it was the Pure (XT1575) like in the US, not the Style... What is your system type? (Look at system version for retus, reteu, retemea, etc)
[X Style (Pure) General] LisboaFernando:
Up the zip
[X Style (Pure) General] metaleloi666:
It's true for those who bought the phone from the providers. I bought an unlocked X Style (XT1572) on the net and then activated it with my provider, Videotron.

As I use French, while on 6.0, the version was retfr I think. But not on 7.0. New build is NPH25.200-15.
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
I don't think any clark/Pure/Style phone was released in Canada. Those of us who wanted it had to get it through secondary sources. I got my XT1575 on ebay.
[X Style (Pure) General] metaleloi666:
You're totally right, I was mistaken. In Canada, we only had the Play, never the Pure/Style. I now remember being mad about this. Because the Pure was hard to get in Canada at a decent price. Until I found a Style from Expansys. Too bad the North American branch is now shut down...
[X Style (Pure) General] s27moto:
any news for xt1575 ??
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No, there is no info yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] xda2014:
QuickPic v4.5.2 crashing after N update. I'm using a resigned apk - don't want the newer versions.

Pity, I really liked that app. Will have to find a replacement.

Edit : Just found this : https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-quickpic-v4-5-2-classic-version-t3204543
[X Style (Pure) General] WatashiFR:
My Moto X Style received Nougat OTA this morning. I'm in France, on Free Mobile; stock ROM.
[X Style (Pure) General] Optimusman:
I agree the unlocked phones get treated worse than carrier based phones. I really believe in our circumstance with the pure edition. This phone was the last phone Motorola made under Google. Levono aquired motorola.It also wasn't a great selling phone in the U.S, therefore I don't know if US unlocked Moto x pure users are even going to get the update personally?
[X Style (Pure) General] SR3TLAW:
THIS is why I'm apart of the community

Are you in USA? What carrier
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Has anyone who updated to official android Nougat 7.0 tried to root or install any custom rom?

Were there any problems while rooting or installing custom roms.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Root is no problem, Magisk and SuperSU both work, but most people have reported that no custom ROM's work at all after upgrading to Nougat... it is purely speculation at this point, but we are guessing the RIL has changed and until we get kernel source it will likely be broken.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Hmm. I see, thanks. I had read something about bootloops on AICP.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Everything bootloops, meaning it's either a boot.img/radio issue, or a file system issue (partition table change, or a partition is a different type now).

I have only been in the periphery of this, so I can't say if developers have a plan or we just have to wait.
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
I wonder is System-Less Root would still work with 7.0, anyone test it yet?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Yes... There is no other way to root stock Marshmallow or Nougat that is NOT systemless, the latest SuperSU or Magisk will work
[X Style (Pure) General] DiegoMarinDiego:
No XT-1575 yet?

I've saved for a Pixel 2 since I started to be pissed at Lenovo. $$$$$$$$$
[X Style (Pure) General] thelolotov:
I don't see a bunch of people posting "I GOT THE UPDATE", nor do I see a bunch of people saying "BUT WAH I DIDN'T YET" in response, so I'm going to assume not yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] Knight-Rider:
It'll more than likely cost close to $1000, so hell no for me too much for a cellphone lol.
[X Style (Pure) General] ministerbeel:
Yes it is going very slooooooow.

I think they lost all the IMEI numbers :) so they don't know which phone should get the OTA.

Maybe we could give them our IMEI numbers :p
[X Style (Pure) General] Bysler:
The worst thing is that we already know this is like a "symbolic update". There is no really something to look forward to in terms of new features.

Even the LG G4, an older device with heavy custom skin is starting to receive Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
LOL... The LG G4 is only 3 months older than the X, and sold 100 times as many units world wide with LG coming off the success of the Nexus 4 & 5 and world-wide acclaim for the G2 and G3, although to be honest knowing LG's history I am surprised it got an update at all, but LG does have significantly more resources available to it that Lenovo's Moto.

Not making excuses, our update is really just an underlying OS update, it doesn't REALLY update any features other than what the Android OS change gives you, same camera, same Moto apps, and adds Duo or Allo or one of those Google messaging things nobody uses. Solid security updates every quarter would have been just as good, maybe better, because the results after Nougat seem very mixed.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
I got the update and I gotta say, I wish I hadn't updated.

Battery life is terrible and phone heats Up a lot, I have to keep a power bank or charger connected a lot of times.

Another drawback is, as of now you can't install ANY custom rom after updating to Nougat.

Sound quality seems worse

I never ever had any bluetooth issues, but now after updating to Nougat, I'm having issues with playback on my JBL Bluetooth speaker.
[X Style (Pure) General] ministerbeel:
Yes oké, but they should at least the Android security updates push through! This is niet oké!
[X Style (Pure) General] scottyrick:
Being on the Moto X Pure, I have not received any OTA update. However I did restore the Nougat EU Boot and System Backups from the Nougat EU Discussion. I was able to root using Magisk and have been using for a couple of weeks. By the way, I can and have restored my TWRP backups of AICP and have had not problems updating these older backups to the current versions of AICP. I have done it several times with no problems, and no bootloops. Getting back to the Moto Nougat experience now, I have had great battery life (better than Marshmallow), and all programs run smoother and faster than Marshmallow. No issues with Bluetooth speaker usage either. Cool running, never hot, and fast response. I could not ask for more. ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] Modnety:
Well this might be the most annoying thing of all. It seems a bug from Marshmallow is back again. A couple of months ago, my phone used to randomly black out the screen whenever the phone used to be in landscape mode (while watching videos on YT or Chrome). However, Moto rolled out a critical update to the Moto display after which it was sorted. However, after the Nougat update (I updated about a week ago), since one or two days the same problem seems to occur. WHAT IS THE WAY OUT?
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Got my Moto X replacement and was going to give it to my girlfriend as she is using a Nexus 6. Turns out the replacement cannot find it front camera. Moto wants to charge me $25 for another advanced replacement. I just spent $25 on the defective one they JUST sent me! My like new device is worse than the one I sent back to them!
[X Style (Pure) General] mikelebz:
Yeah. I'd cause a stink. I'd make sure to make it clear on the phone that the replacement is defective and ask for another replacement to be sent with a prepaid return label for the one the sent out initially.
[X Style (Pure) General] jesful2011:
I did the same! Worked just fine, no heat and longer SOT.

BUT VoLTE doesn't work so had to go back to RR for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
There is a lot of difference between updating and simply restoring a twrp backup.
[X Style (Pure) General] oliake:
EU backup works on my US XT1575 version without any issues! Left data intact and restored only boot and system.

Edit: And I must say it is way more fluid and ''stable''. Speaker quality is the same and I have also gotten more screen on time. So far no heating up like it did after 5 minutes on MM.
[X Style (Pure) General] Nick N:
I could not get Sprint data working with the LA version, anyone have any luck with the EU version? Is it single SIM?
[X Style (Pure) General] oliake:
I live in Sweden so that could be a big factor. My version is dual sim.
[X Style (Pure) General] metaleloi666:
Got the Nougat update more than a week ago now for my Style. Could not be more pleased. Battery life seems a bit better on my 16-month old device, phone runs smoother overall, no problem at all with anything so far (GPS, calls, music playback, Bluetooth...). And most of all, it stopped the random reboots problem I had since a few months. No reboot since the update. Keeping my fingers crossed.

And I really like the Nougat improvements for the notifications. Would not want to go back.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
So after some hit and trial I confirmed that nougat custom roms bootloop after updating to 7.0. But I found this rom at least boots up : https://xdaforums.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-unofficial-los13-moto-x-style-pure-t3554226
[X Style (Pure) General] 2be3_80:
Update is now live in Poland, weights 879.8 MB
[X Style (Pure) General] xabr3:
Finally the OTA
[X Style (Pure) General] emerel:
Just got OTA in Poland, XT1572 from NL market :)

Updating in progress...
[X Style (Pure) General] ministerbeel:
Me too:svetius:

From Holland
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
Update released in Greece reteu model
[X Style (Pure) General] kamykowsky:
Updating on my friends Moto X Style finished with error and after reboot it was back in 6.0.1. Don't know why. May it be because I have changed bootlogo to normal moto logo instead of warning about unlocked bootloader?
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
Just got the final Android O preview on my Nexus 6P. Starting a pool as to whether we get the xt1575 update before official O comes out. My money is on the Nexus 6P.
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
I won't bet against you.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Kinda need to know the error message to help... and changing only the logo image hasn't been an issue with previous OTA's but I don't know anyone who has tried it with the Nougat OTA, but I imagine when the US get's it I'll know for sure.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Still wouldn't be surprised if they just say "F it" for the XT1575 due to the extra effort of CDMA, Verizon/Sprint approval, etc. I don't recall us being the very last to receive 6.0, so the radio silence as regions all over the world get the XT1572 update isn't a good sign.
[X Style (Pure) General] CostasV23:
To whoever has nougat. Weather bug crashes constantly not even opens and the Evie launcher I used on marshmallow refuses to startup crashing constantly too . Doesn't anyone have a fix ?
[X Style (Pure) General] quang_nguyen:
confirmed RetEU got 7.0 update in Vietnam today :)
[X Style (Pure) General] trandoanh2:
Máy của bạn là phiên bản gì vậy. Mình dùng máy chính hãng up rom stock 2 sim 6.0.1 nhưng chưa có cập nhật
[X Style (Pure) General] quang_nguyen:
Retail EU, 1 sim, pure stock, no root, no unlock bootloader :)
[X Style (Pure) General] kamykowsky:
It crashes during flashing in recovery (green android). For first like 20% of progress bar it says installing update and then error.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Did you catch the actual error message? If it isn't shown, hold power and tap Vol Up to toggle the display.
[X Style (Pure) General] kamykowsky:
[MENTION=2001582]acejavelin[/MENTION] Here is the pic http://imgur.com/a/M9i1d
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Your Bluetooth firmware is incorrect compared to the rest of your device... You need to be purely stock to take an OTA. Somewhere along the line you flashed or restored something that did something (or didn't when it should) to the BT firmware... You will have to back to the last firmware available for your variant, flash all of it (except for and bootloader) and OTA up to current, which might be a few steps.
[X Style (Pure) General] kamykowsky:
https://yadi.sk/d/P43b6CsUkjvdg/Stock 6.0/XT1572/RETEU I have flashed this without any problems and then even performed 1 or 2 OTA updates also without problems. Weird that now I can't update it.

Edit: And to make it even funnier BT is also working correctly everyday with bt earphone and when sending/reciving files with it.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
I was wondering if anyone downgraded to marshmallow after updating to Nougat 7.0, were there any issues?

If I downgrade by using fastboot, should I incluce everything or skip something, maybe like modem or logo. Or can I install by using all the commands as always?

Thanks
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Probably because none of those OTA's had a Bluetooth patch so they assumed it was correct, the Nougat update actually patches the btfm firmware for the first time in a few updates... or it didn't update properly in a previous update.
[X Style (Pure) General] xabr3:
Everything feels snappier. Also batterylife is better, especially standby. Good update.

I wonder how this official 7.0 compares to Lineage 7.1.2 regarding batterylife?
[X Style (Pure) General] LisboaFernando:
Alguma novidade para o Xt1575?
[X Style (Pure) General] Brunoams:
Some are getting it slowly. We just have to be patient and find something interesting to do unless we will all be pressing "System Update" on settings...
[X Style (Pure) General] LisboaFernando:
Só prometem, nunca chega tá foda, paciência já acabou
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I haven't heard of any XT1575 getting it yet... My expectations are soon (with 2 weeks) though, seeing the other rollouts occurring.
[X Style (Pure) General] TheImpossibleEnemy:
Just got the update here in Lithuania
[X Style (Pure) General] Mehedee:
For XT1575 (PURE) ???? Some Screenshot would be nice please!
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Of course not... In Lithuania it would be the Moto X Style and it is confirmed in [MENTION=5708556]TheImpossibleEnemy[/MENTION] signature stating he has the Moto X Style which is the XT1572 all over the world, except the North America (XT1575) and China (XT1570).
[X Style (Pure) General] Bysler:
I can imagine when the update for the XT1575 starts to roll out... The thread will jump from 126 pages to 200 in less than a week :D
[X Style (Pure) General] strafer69:
The fact that someone hasn't "leaked" out the soak for the xt1575 just blows my mind...
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
It's called integrity. When you sign digital or otherwise an agreement to not leak you don't leak. It's a lesson more people should learn esp politicians and govt workers.
[X Style (Pure) General] jboxer:
Don't know how widely the soak was distributed. I was told I was part of the soak test but never got the update. Of course, if I had gotten it, I would not have leaked it because I agreed to confidentiality regarding it.
[X Style (Pure) General] luxor17:
In Italia ancora Niente aggiornato,In Italy still nothing updated
[X Style (Pure) General] p605sve:
What you got?

Tau gerai mle.. XT1575 visiska tyla. parodik screenus statuso
[X Style (Pure) General] D.Spirit:
^

That's strange because I bought mine from Italy and it recieved the update.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Nothing for my XT1572 in UK :rolleyes:
[X Style (Pure) General] TheImpossibleEnemy:
Here you go:good:
[X Style (Pure) General] abdielmaiden:
Still waiting for this damn update in Mexico on my XT1572 (Style), I'm looking forward for better battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
So...no flashable .zip Stock rom for 7.0 update? My old LG V10 just got a 7.0 update....I would have thought the Moto would have gotten updated first.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
If it was Google's Motorola, then yes.

But it's Lenovos Motorola, updates will be alot slower.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
O....my bad....I could have sworn that I had heard that the Moto X Pure had the N update months ago....but doing some digging around here....it just came out it seems.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
It was only a soak test. Currently only the X Style is getting the update. Pure is most likely last.