yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
to the developer of the drivers, chainfire, and anyone else who is working on this project:

i am saying this from the bottom of me heart......THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE. PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. AGAIN THANK YOU.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyraxiate:
Same rom here and same issue. Removed the new driver, soft reset, and installed the old driver. Everything works as it should again.

Also, Is there a way to change the identifier so that the other apps looking for the most common 3d hardware will recognize it as a valid chipset?

Thanks for all the hard work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] endiz:
Do these newly released drivers have DirectDraw acceleration?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fared:
dunno why i'm replying... but lets go over some basic logic sequences here.

HTCClassAction.org states, in the July 18th update, that "Currently the only things that are supported are hardware-accelerated D3D and OpenGL ES."

the July 22nd update doesn't mention an changes, other than "updated". Now, maybe they thought it would be a good idea to impliment something MAJOR and BREAKTHROUGH without directly stating anything REMOTELY RELATED to it, but I am going to guess not...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] K2340:
Drivers and sample apps work great on AT&T Tilt with Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588.

Thanks Chainfire and crew!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Or maybe try to fix the 17th release so it works for most people. But who really cares.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gladwin:
updated driver works ok on Hyperdragon lllr, i've noticed the sample apps runs smoother with the updated drivers, but it has faster framerate with the first beta driver. the spining cube is very smooth on the new one but slower

triangle reports 52 fps with the updated drivers, and 182 fps with the old one

dll checker reports this message with the old drivers: "Wce_pmeF.dll failed with error 126: the specified module could not be found."

works fine with the updated ones
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
It works for me too

I get exactly the same results and have the same setup (UK supplied current HTC WM 6.1 upgrade) - but it does now work!

Additional to the problems already reported with PM causing hangs, I find that there is some tearing on the end/edge of the cylinder so it looks jagged at times. I'm surprised about that because I thought hardware gfx acceleration should not do that sort of thing (maybe there's one of those features (not sure what they're called but buffering and antialiasing comes to mind) responsible for smoothing in such cases thats not in the silicon so cant be enabled)?

The other issue is one you already know about and thats that sliding the screen open causes all manner of crashes. Its enough ammo to complain to HTC with though (along with the still faulty HTC supplied Radio giving poor GPS performance). If a private third party with an assistant can get this working to enable the expected features of the hardware we paid for, how come the giant corporation that made the device can't.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] loubega:
drivers works on german stock htc-wm 6.1

Hello, the updated drivers works on my kaiser. But if I open the Triangle(GL)-test I have to soft-reset my device to stop it...thanks for your great work guys!!! ;)

Lets post here our benchmarks to see the changes...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyrom:
I have a stellar from 02, stock 02 6.1 rom. First driver didnt work, new 22 july works (all except the text, which is garbled).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] draxredd:
Fun with the registry

i was feeeling like hardreseting today, so before the plunge i changed "localhook" to "remotehook" in the registry.

kaiser still booted, and triangle.exe still works with HWA. Other demos throw various exception codes...

end of useless little experiment ^.^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dust2Dust:
L26 V8 Light works, but the device feels very sluggish.... I might be in the need for a new install but prefer waiting for V10. If V10 doesn't match my needs I will reinstall and test again. In the meanwhile some SR's might do the job.

sluggish is not the good word...It is like the device is having hick-ups.... don't know a beter explanation...GXmark is better then ever. BUT something has really changed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
As I understand it, you'll still keep the safer method. I guess then chefs will have to recook their ROMs to have them compatible.. I guess we'll just wait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nenadr:
Just to correct myself and clarify issue: IT IS NOT a problem with dimming of display .... everything continues to work OK when display gets dimmed.... it is only problem with "suspend" (turning off display)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Maybe it'll just have to get smarter because there's a never ending rain of new ROM sources. Usually stuff gets co-released so can be hard-coded, but can't do that here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brynwall:
Why isn't this thread stickied?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Yeah no kidding.

I mean who cares for 3D drivers that tens of thousands of people were suffering without for years..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fared:
Melodramaticism+ hyperbole = Sensationalism FTW....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kristoff_sz:
No, thats called:

THE TRUTH
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajmagi:
THAT'S oot btw ...

chainfire, duttys 29/4 seems got text3D works while the other don't while other roms text3D blurred but other works .... STRANGE... might that helps...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
My score with Garmin 1.Final ROM and the 22 July 3D drivers appear to have made a 300 point additional score to the Test 2 - Hardware result, but not performed so well on the Test 1 - Graphics test compared to your results.

Curious...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbarvian:
sounds great :D

i would love to see manila on the kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
I know, well put, isn't it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nmn.shah:
the driver package and the lights app did not work

do they have to be installed on the phone ???

i installed them on the storage card i think

error light: could not initialise direct3d. the app will now exit

pls help

running wm 6.1, htc rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
I don't know if it is required but once I got a installed a rom that was known to be working with the drivers, I installed the drivers (the July 22 drivers) onto the "device" and not the storage card. Once you install that july 22 package the test programs including "lights.exe" will be in your "programs" folder already installed under a new directory called "HTC-CA Drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] commanderaj:
I don't want to appear to be stupid, but where do you download the drivers from ???????????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
Look at the second post on this thread. Click the link. Look for "breaking news updated driver package" towards the top of that page click the link. look for "get the cab here" click the link.

Not as simple as it could be, is it. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] commanderaj:
Ta very much indeed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dzo:
Linux Drivers too?

Hi,

I have ported the linux kernel to MSM7X00 (see http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue and here's a video of it running android http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KExPq7HOZg ). Congratulations on getting the ATI graphics working, I would like to see if I can enable this for linux. Android should have a userspace 3D driver so all that is necessary is the GRP and IMEM clocks and VREG setup details. Can you let me know what RPC calls you use to set up these, or even just a dump of MSM_CLK_CTL would help. While the demo is running can you connect using haret and do:

vdump 0xb2e00000 0x400.

Thanks a lot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Don't think IMEM is working yet, but the RPC set up appears to be in wce_pmem and trstai_extension (the non-Kaiser dlls).

I think GRP setup is inside DDI.dll and disptools.dll. Not sure what VREG is unless you're talking about the AhiDevReg(Read|Write)() calls. DDI appears to use statically-linked AHI, but may be only for copying surfaces around, and not much of the other specific acceleration that AHI offers.

Anybody got documentation of ATI's ATI Handheld Interface calls? Qt for Linux Embedded appears to have a specific graphics driver to support some of AHI, but ahi.h is missing as well as relevant information.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
I seem to remember in some correspondence I received from ATI once that they do have limited developer support publications (although that was about a piece of desktop PC hardware). How are software publishers supposed to make their products fully compatible with 'mystery' hardware otherwise. It's worth giving their web form support a go or even phone them if it's an option.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dzo:
VREG is the power control, but I see a clk_regime_sec_grp_rail_on rpc call in trstai_extension, that'll probably be it. For the clocks there are is an enable call but that would need to be traced to see what parameters are passed. I don't have a kaiser so if somebody could trace the calls and/or send me a dump of MSM_CLK_CTRL that would be really useful.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
I will do it, do you have a quick way of explaining what to do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dzo:
OK, Thanks. Download haret from here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/haret.exe

download default.txt from here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/default.txt

Copy both to your phone, run one of the graphics demos and while it is running (if possible) start haret and click run. It will create a small file called msm_clk_ctl, can you attach it to a post or send it to me, my email is on the vogue page.

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Site updated with new driver package. Maybe will fix some compatibility issues. Also brings full-screen mode.

http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080729_1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dperren:
Just thought I'd pop in to say that you guys are absolutely brilliant, and to thank you for all the hard work you're putting in :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BBM-Lee:
just in time for me to download before work :-)

Will give it a shot during down time at work ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] snachez:
I am blown away with the progress being made. You guys are incredibly skilled and will truly do a great service to all of us with TyTn II's once this is fully ported.

If anyone here has followed the daniel_k and Creative drama over the last few months, it only proves that David can sometimes beat Goliath :)

Keep up the terrific work !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drownage:
Hey Some one on the manila thread said Xperia gives manila a gud 30-40 FPS. Could that mean it has some form of those drivers?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2460763&postcount=325

I dont know if htcclassaction people are using the russian Xperia ROM out there to get the drivers, but if not this might be a valuable resource :-)...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
anyone check how fast manila works with this update?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Text not working with the HWA KaiserGL drivers so no FPS display. Seen before on the D3DDemo on Diamond, and seems characteristic of HTC's code.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aksd:
Triangle at 53fps. Works fine with HTC SEA version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aksd:
Here are the GLBenchmark Results :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Balrog82:
still not working on NoThrills... need to flash a different ROM i guess.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anubus12:
tried to install the new drivers. says unsuccessful. anyone else have this problem? also, is the CAB supposed to be only 15Kb?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] radek-it:
Wrong file size. DL them again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Works for me on ROMeOS v4.

Good work chainfire and gang.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
I downloaded the new psuedo fullscreen drivers and now the lights program is back in what looks to be software mode instead of hardware. triangle just gives me an error message and the cube won't run well. I'll get these fixed before I dump that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PH03NIX-ZA:
Status report

Hi ppl! loving the work done here!

Alright, heres a status report:

Tytn II from HTC South Africa off of an MTN contract, Rom L26 V9, 3.56 Hard SPL.

The first cab driver did not work, unfortunately for me, especially as it was reported to work by other person(s) on this ROM (so maybe I did something wrong). The tests didnt run at all, with all of them consistently reporting errors and funnily enough the dll checker said "Dlls check finished".

The second cab driver DOES work, although it's a little funny

Triangle (GL) runs at ~323 FPS. The test runs the triangle but it can never become the active window for more then a moment, only becomming active when I press the start button, or open then the task manager or basically just switch windows. When it is active it shows an excellent frame rate, but then no matter which window im in, it just shows a frozen 'ghost' of the last frame it was running, basically it becomes frozen onto my screen and I can't see any window underneath this except for brief glimpses during window switching. Mind you nothing is actually frozen just that I can only see the last frame of the test and the top task bar which is still visible and functioning normally

This is the same behaviour for ALL the other tests, except for the 3d text which just shows blurry text, and well thats it. It behaves like a normal app other then that, although I have no idea what it's supposed to show or do, so if someone can enlighten me, please tell me :)

TomTom Navigator 6 is still as sluggish as ever and (don't know if this is relevant) the video, using tcmp and a DivX video rip (bsg season 4 mid-season finale) seems to play the same on GDI and DirectDraw as the stock L26 v9 WM 6.1 ROM im using. The benchmark gives and average speed of 73.88% (608 kbs from 823 kbs) using GDI, and DirectDraw gave and ugly 41.77% (423 kbs from 1.0 mbs if that matters at all) and for reference the raw frame buffer is 71.77%

I can try this cab later today on another HTC Tytn II from the same HTC south africa but from a Vodacom contract (although this makes most likely makes no difference here) which has the all original all stock HTC WM 6.0 ROM

Other then that I don't notice any improvement in real world aplications and usage so far, although those are 2D anyway...

If u guys think that posting the benchmark logs are helpfull then please ask.

U guys (who put together the cab and got the drivers working) are definatily making progress, and now I atleast feel better about my phone. so keep it up!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
can't wait for this to be completed with the manila project as well so we can have a phone UI identical to the diamond and touch pro rather than use alternatives that will never animate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
It is doing the same thing for me. It is supposed to be fluid motion. It is supposed to like 3d graphics rendering. Like a screensaver you might say. I had it working on the July 22 drivers. GLBenchmark does the samething. It only moves when I press the hard buttons and even then it's only like one frame at a time. Going to try another rom next.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] One who observes:
D3D Demo is very smooth and responsive no change in speed or continuity when you zoom in.

Lights works very well again smooth and fast.

DLL Checker (well checks DLL as supposed to)

Triangle is not so fast but giving me 53 fps

Text3D does not work. I get blurred text and it remains in the background and slows the phone down when running.

Altogether a Very good job..

BTW I changed my Radio to 1.65.20.29 to get the lights working, my previous Radio is on my signature.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
Here is the file http://www.mediafire.com/?nblm2cqvnre
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andret:
Updated link for driver

Hi

Possible for someone to provide a mirror with a different filename as the one on htcclassaction.org keeps giving me the same file as before.... damn ISP is using a transparent proxy!

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
This cab doesnt work on my device but I think I know why cause I currently changed my radio to emonster 1.71.09.01., maybe thats the pro

blem. Btw. it does start lights.exe. Just a low fps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rfarnell:
Great work guys. Managed to complete one GL Benchmark with the ROMeOS v4 and 1.71.09.01 radio with decent results, but now it keeps crashing at different points of the test.

The comparative score of the Iphone with the Kaiser was a bit alarming!

http://snipurl.com/3768v [www_glbenchmark_com]

R
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PH03NIX-ZA:
oo, I forgot to mention that my radio version is 1.58.25.17.

I never knew that the Radio ROM version made a difference... someone should mention that over at htcclassaction.org.

Im thinking of going with 1.65.20.29 like the One who observes (nice ring to it ;) ). Any ideas of which one I should try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hjlow:
yes same thing here, on L26 v9 :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
I'm using 1.64.24.36 with garmin 2. It is working with that one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1lbdjmnbtef
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Apparently, the iPhone has an ARM advanced enough to support a working FPU in it. Generally, it's been avoided in ARM development history so that explains why Qualcomm doesn't have one.

It doesn't look as bad as you might think. At worse the iPhone is twice as fast for the same thing, more consistent (1.0 & 1.1) and fully supported by Apple. Even Sony-Ericsson recently reengineered UIQ to fully support OpenGL. If you notice in the overall GLBenchmark scores, they're only ~#3 brand in performance to #2/1 Nokia vs Apple, while recent HTC tech scrapes the bottom.

It's easy to blame MS for not standardizing HWA and drivers, and the OEMs for being proprietary, unskilled, software hacks.

But, any of the results 500K and up such as in the lights & textures tests either actually failed and gives blank screens on both machines (same behavior on the Diamond).

Conclusion to be drawn is that Qualcomm tech is like buying Cyrix or something more obscure and is neither an AMD nor Intel (eg, it sucks!) since the latest product the Diamond is still slower than the iPhone in these raw performance tests. Certainly not the PSP/DS levels Qualcomm PR had been teasing with.

Btw, I'm pretty sure ChainFire and anon (aka OP) appreciate the different rom/radio tests. They don't have a QA dept, so depend on you guys finding what's broken out there and not cross-rom compatible.

Btw, check and make sure the .cabs are updating files since some chefs are starting to cook in the drivers and possibly breaking these upgrades. All of the .dlls have a build number included.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eyeless:
working on at&t based WM 6.1 rom

So just to test it the newest version is working on ingonithos last at&t based rom.

sorry i dont have my profile updated. it has radio 1.65.20.29. All of the demos work somewhat... they are all slow but they work now! on the last couple versions they didnt even work!

YAY!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stuart-online:
I've tried this on an Orange UK 6.1. Everything installs OK, .net installed, DLL checker OK - but when I run any of the tests they run really slow like its using software instead of hardware?

I noticed a few other people reported the same thing - anybody got any ideas how to cure? Really want to try Manila..

Rom Version 3.28.61.0

Radio 1.65.16.25

Operator Version 24.328.1.610

CE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eknutson:
Working on

Death 4.1 (6/15/2008)

SPL: HardSPL v3.56

Radio: 1.65.20.29

Protocol: 25.88.40.04 H

ROM: 3.53.502.1 WWE

Lights runs well, other demos are slow, then fast at times (triangles). Similar issues as others who have reported a "frozen" image until you touch something, then a frame or 3, then back to still. Text3D is blurred and unreadable.

I don't have GLBenchmark, but would be happy to run it if I could find it to d/l...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Based on my own experience, ROMeOS v3.5 will take only first released driver cab. Second and third release of drivers do not support it.

Installing ROMeOS v4 now, will try it with v3 drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PH03NIX-ZA:
Ok, I tried 1.71.09.01 radio version, confirmed it was installed during boot (my phone indicated it was emo :( ) and through device information in WM, and I didn't notice any difference. Exact same behaviour.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
I flashed my radio from 1.71.09.01 to 1.65.20.29. Still doesnt work on L26 rom. lights.exe again started, but still with low fps. Hope this helps
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chiles:
I had it working on garmin and man, manilla made me shed a tear. It was too beautiful for words to describe. I couldn't sync with vista so I put RomeOS v4 on and the newest drivers and the demos work. Radio 1.65.24.36 The thing about the manila thing is that it doesn't do anything except load the main screen. It is completely useless (which I happened to ignore).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kareeem:
My lights wont launch and the first icon looks like it's about to launch something and then exits.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] deuzeff:
Hi here,

I have the L26 V9 (didn't change anything, it is the standard stuff).

I installed the cab but none of the test wants to work properly. The triangle is frozen until i press a hard button or click on the touch screen, then it moves few frames, then stop again until i wake it up again :).

The other tests show simlar behaviour. THe 3D text is just a bunch of squares.

Hope it helps ;). Thank you for your hard work guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] daedric:
True enough

It almost seems that there isn't any screen refresh been requested by the d3d/gl apps. As soon as another program request a screen change... the d3d/gl app moves... like opening a menu... or using one of the hard keys to launch a program. In Text3D it seems that each letter is making its entire texture apear red/blue/white insted of only the actual letter pixels.

Must be one of those easy to solve bugs :)

Sometimes i still don't belive we finally got gl/d3d support... feels like those old time with 3Dfx trying to improve OpenGL/D3D support with almost nothing to work with :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
can someone tell me a quick tip on how i will know if this drivers are working on my phone? havent been able to donwload yet cuz im at work but i just wanted to know...is there like a tester tht comes with this thing or wut? and will i be able to uninstall it if it isnt correct cuz of my radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Praygo:
l26 v9

Just want to confirm... I am a L26 diamond v9 rom user and the latest driver cab doesnt allow lights to run.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stuff:
ROMEO v4 works successfully with the latest (Juy 29th) drivers

All of the included testing apps work prefectly.!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
drivers install ok with rom in my sig but i haven't tried any tests except the manila cab which terminates itself once the today screen is tapped to start touchflo 3d
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
If your DDI.dll isn't version 3.28 and up, it's not going to work.