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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
There is zero point to keep bringing this up. Most people cannot pay $800 upfront. We are in America and have to deal with this. These comments are utterely useless and only cause frustration.

Anyone who feels the need to make a "exynos is the way to go comment" need to take that comment and direct it towards law makers. As we can do nothing about it.

Exynos people who feel the need for attention and like feeling Superior come over here to feel special. As they can't get the attention in their own subs. It is not helping anyone in anyway at any time.

Do not feed the trolls and absolutely do not validate them.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie Hicks:
Probably 99% of owners of this phone do not intend to root it, or even know what that means. It is one of the best phones ever and not being able to root it does not make it a POS to the vast majority of owners. No one is forcing you to purchase one. If you feel so badly about it, why don't you find a phone that you can root and stop trolling?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
Personally I have no need for root. However flashing to a different carrier or enabling LTE bands is quite useful. How many times has there been a great phone released but doesn't support the bands needed? I agree that these 2 discussions should be separated as there would be less confusion and irritation.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Not to drag this out but I personally know lots of people who can afford 800 up front for a device and theres tons I dont know and lots of guys here even. And for those of us in Canada its worse as unfortunately it costs its alot more than $800 .

Just because you may not be able to doesnt mean others cannot...think about that.

And to even suggest that people think they are superior because of the chip in there phone is just....well ...silly. its a phone for gods sake...no one cares what chip is in it lol.

There seems to be many who didnt even know about the situation with the exynos .i myself have had numerous PMs asking about it. So what about those people? Those of us that know should just keep quiet because others are upset they cant get one? Hardly fair dude.

I get where your coming from but you need to consider both sides before getting so worked up when someone mentions exynos...im mean really cmon im sure you have more important thing's to think about than that.

Thanks

Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

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Agreed...even stock the S8 was the best device I think ive ever had. Samsung nailed it for sure

Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
That's nice. Anyone who is spending that amount of money and isn't researching it is foolish. If everyone care this much appeal to the mods and make a sticky. People are not simply informing people about the exynos varient and you know it. Read their posts. Constantly coming into the qaulcomm threads and espouting about how great the exynos is ridiculous. I'm happy for you that you live in affluent area and know people with $800 to burn on a whim. Of course some people can afford them, I'm not sure why you brought that up? That isn't a point that needs made. However it does apparently need to pointed out that alot cannot.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
So....your free to mention that some people may not be able to afford it but its not okay to mention that some can?

Good luck with that thinking.

I only mentioned affordability it because you brought it up...and its a valid point that you made. However my point is no less valid just because it may not apply to you.

And on that note im done clogging up the thread for everyone else.

Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] drew272011:
I don't understand why people argue this thread is suppose to be for snap dragons correct ? So theirs no point in going back and forth
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
I agree! I snapped and I'm a dragon with my exynos with the dragon skin over it. So fresh! Dbrandz nailed it!

On a side note, if you cannot afford the phone, do leasing. I spent 6+ hours a day every day for 9 weeks debating on getting the exynos and I can't afford either. Don't do contracts and I like my phones hackable since I'm king pirate of Google play ;) ;) 97% of people don't hack their phones but I guarantee you that the 97% who knew of the epicness would once they found out. I sold 4 phones and saved a bit of chadder to get my phone I have now. I plan on getting the weaker American model ONLY to run dolphin and play my gamecube ROMS. But I might just jump n grab the OP5 when it gets released or the note 8. Maybe the 3T since I wanna save a few bucks.

If I make ya pissy with a side of salty hit the thanks button :) wanna know I'm doing my job A OK. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i think you missed his point.. ppl should make a "exynos is better" thread so they can rant in there because some of the exynos users like this guy are making comments solely to troll the users in here with snapdragon devices which is not cool

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and this again lol.. you really shouldnt post at all if your sole intent is to piss ppl off even to the point you are asking them to hit the thanks button if you did in fact piss them off?

grow up lol

as billy said, not everyone has the capability to pay 800$ nor do some of us have the means to make pymts with sammy.. some ppl might have bad credit, no bank account, no down payment etc.

and yes, there are many who can afford it, great, if you want unlocked bl get the unlockable variant.. dont buy it then troll everyone because they cant get one for whatever reason

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lol no doubt ppl can afford it and some cant.. im just tired of a few exynos users clogging up the snapdragon thread just to tick ppl off by making rude comments just to tell everyone how they have root and an unlocked BL and we will never have it (not referring this to you specifically)

i think everyone in here would have purchased a exynos variant if they could have just for root and unlocked BL so for them to argue we shouldve bought whatever is null and void
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
Ill level with you guys. I have bad credit due to someone stealing my identity so I buy all my stuff outright. Saving $ is a thing. Made a $1000 last me 9 months and saved the rest what with selling phones like some fine crystal on the streets lol. Sure some are poor af and can't afford outright or leasing but to be fair, I've offered advice and a work around and most of you laughed at me for offering help and a possible root....possibly. so you telling me to grow up is like the pot calling the kettle black. In all seriousness and honesty. This is 2017, NO one ever fully reads these days, and if they do they read what they want to. NO one likes to offer help yet when someone thinks outside the box you laugh at them and down them. I hope the snapdragon variant never gets root to be 100% real with you. To be more frank, it isn't carriers who lock the boot loader, it use to be that way but its the US Samsung corperation that does it. Look at the s7 and the edge and the s7 active...all have locked bootloadeds yet theirs root. ATT has locked bootloadeds yet the s7 has cm13....the g935U has cm13 and other roms plus twrp. Along with a locked down boot loader. Seen project Alice on the g935F and its a G955F ROM so tell me again about how my ideas and help and thinking outside the box is laughable?

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So in conclusion: either take my adive and try to figure it out since I " don't know what I'm talking about" and make a root happen or push on down the road and deal with the fact root isn't gonna happen for 4-6 months from now. Ill offer my final piece on the matter since I have a hunch. About the time the note 8 gets released either a week before or a few weeks after, a possible root will be released since the 2 will share the same method for the BL issue..take this info as you want but for those who think out the box expect greatness soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Interceptor777:
Guys we should ignore the trolls and get back on topic :)

I had a question, if the unbranded US device that is coming on 05/30, has an unlocked bootloader (The one you can only get from BB and Samsung), then will we able to flash that devices firmware and then unlock out bootloaders?

Since the hardware is the same, loading that devices firmware should unlock the bootloader right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] denson9874:
Ideally yes, just as long as it has SD 835 then we're golden. I would be excited if it does indeed have an unlocked bootloader. If it does, then auto root by chainfire will be possible, then TWRP, then custom roms.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Interceptor777:
It definitely does have the 835 otherwise no CDMA for Verizon or Sprint.

Let's just cross our fingers and hope for the unlocked bootloader. I talked to a Samsung rep and they wouldn't give me any info on it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you didnt contribute any ideas besides look at the S7 which the ATT S7 root utilizes an ENGBOOT and prince comsy odin so what is there to look into without having an ENGBOOT?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
I flashed XAC and am on cricket wireless. As I was out this evening I saw LTE+ on my phone. Never saw that ever before. What is that?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
Probably band 30 lte carrier aggregation. What version s8 firmware did you run before xac? Verizon didn't have a few att lte bands so xac unlocked a few for you.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
I have T-Mobile, what would happen if I flash XAC? I am on the latest T-Mobile update. Would I just flash the Userdata or the system? What would I lose if I did that? Would the T-Mobile system apps be deleted? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
If you have a T-Mobile s8 and T-Mobile Sim you would gain less bloat and probably lose wifi calling and or volte
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
I could do a flashback to T-Mobile firmware though?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
I wouldn't waste my time if i had a T-Mobile s8 and used T-Mobile service. We are talking about like a handful of apps right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
It was US cellular originally.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
I know that but my battery life is being stupid.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
Yea that makes sense you definitely get much better lte coverage now compared to before. Besides att specific features you now at least get all the needed att bands. Before on us cellular firmware you had limited lte bands available

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Is it easier to find a plug during the day or deal with the hassle of trying to do a return or exchange and hoping the new or refurb phone doesnt have issues?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Skyrocket2Paradise:
but is it possible ha
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
I mean we could always wait a couple weeks for the unlocked firmware with the unlocked phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
I dont know ask elwiggy how that worked

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Sure, how has it been going switching from verizon to att or tmobile and back to verizon so far for the past 3 weeks?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
no idea but I do know that once the unlocked XAA firmware is out it will be easier for us but we need the newest version of ODIN 3, 3.13 to properly flash away the old version of whatever firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Quickvic30:
More than likely the BL will be locked, well it is on the U S7 edge anyways.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
I think I'd wager a bet with anyone it will definitely 100% be locked down like every other snapdragon. 956 posts and no closer to root than before this thread started. If switching carriers is so easy on these phones why not post a nice simple step by step guide in the 1st post or a new concisely written thread?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
aask me what? clearly hes asking you since your so intslligent and like to comment on everyones posts lol

many of those posts are you being negative, i can 100% say root will happen in time and without any help from you as usual..

write up a guide for ppl to use if its an issue for you
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
The title of this thread is misleading on every level. Zero research or development on rooting or switching carriers after close to 1000 useless posts
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
haha really? clearly there has been progress on carrier switching and just bcuz ur not in any of the root chats we have going on doesnt mean there hasnt been progress.. we have made progress as we know what will NOT work so far lol

but go ahead and keep cluttering the thread bro, carry on lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] denson9874:
I've just blocked him so he can't get the satisfaction that he is obviously looking for. I would only advice that we all who are trying to be productive and proactive regarding contributing to the thread all do the same. That way we aren't wasting our precious time giving this guy "USELESS" attention.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
My experience flashing to different carrier. I purchased US Cellular S8 unlocked, which uses cdma. I flashed XAC firmware, which is Canadian, and now have gsm only. With all lte bands enabled, and no carrier bloat. I use Cricket wireless. I have done factory resets, and it stays like this. I haven't tried flashing to any other carrier, because I can't find AT&T firmware. And don't want to go back to US Cellular. If I find AT&T firmware, or csc file, I will try that. I really wouldn't want any other firmware. I would only flash other firmware for testing purposes. I have read where people talk about ZAC/VZW/VZW or different variations of this. However I don't have this in my settings. Since I am on Cricket, I can't test if Volte, or wifi calling works. When I flashed the software, I flashed the CSC file, and not the home CSC file. If you haven't flashed firmware with Odin, and don't understand the home and non-home csc file. Just download a firmware version, from updato.com, and extract it. Then look at the files inside. Then you will understand. Just posting this to let others no my results.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] meathammer386:
thank you i was tired of reading his rants
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
Try selecting Nand Erase as an option in Odin, i dont know if it would work but from all of my research it seems like it might help.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
Actually I have no problems. I only stated that it remains the same firmware after a reset, because I read that others said that it reverted back after a reset. Maybe I misunderstood? This was just me stating my experience. And I love the xac firmware. Thanks though.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
oh, ok. sorry for misunderstanding. Shoud I do it or said for for XAA

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My question is if I flash the XAC to my T-Mobile phone can I get back to T-Mobile?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
There is T-mobile firmware. However I haven't read where anyone has actually done it. Maybe if I get time I will try it, because if not, it doesn't really matter to me. Because I can always go back to xac, which I like anyway. Although I don't have a live t-mobile sim, so I can't test volte, or wifi calling.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] denson9874:
To answer your question, yes you can get back to T-Mobile firmware. Only difference will be you will XAA Service Code. It will display XAA/XAA/TMB, which translates to Unlocked TMB firmware. VoLTE and Wifi-Calling will work. All initial bands are active and *#2263# is accessible in dialer to activate GSM, WCDMA, TSCDMA, and LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
thanks. Can you link me to this firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cabegol:
Does anyone know the process of flashing a CSC from the US (T-mobile) to an Exynos S8? (G950F)

I've tried to no avail. I have a multi-CSC flashed on the phone and also have the latest T-mobile firmware file downloaded. I've tried with different versions of ODIN (3.12.3, 3.12.7, 3.12.10 and the prince patched one), always getting the same error: repartition error. I've tried with the re-partition option enabled in ODIN and the result is the same, it just doesn't flash.

Any insights? Thank you!

By the way, my procedure in ODIN is as follows: AP, BL, CP from the G950F OXM firmware, CSC from T-mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
You can't. The radio's in the hardware of the devices are difference so it will not work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cabegol:
Thank you, mweinbach! Ok, I'll rest my case then. My only objective is to change the "locale" to the US and enable Samsung Pay if possible...All of the rest works really well.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
i recommend the UK BTU firmware. Samsung pay should be enabled some time this month. http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-pay-uk-release-date-could-be-imminent-finally https://www.sammobile.com/2017/05/01/samsung-pay-may-launch-in-the-uk-on-may-16th/
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] canynballa:
so I always wondered how does one use a international Samsung Galaxy s8 on a network like Sprint?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cabegol:
Great! That's what I'll do then.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
Does anyone have the link to the XAC firmware that I can flash to my S8 T-Mobile. I tried to download one with SamFrim but it wouldnt flash to my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 954wrecker:
They don't since its not a supported device.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cabegol:
Have you tried the updato website? They have every firmware, and the download speeds are optimal.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mweinbach:
I just downloaded it from SamMobile

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Any time I flash the SM-G950W XAC firmware I get this error: <ID:0/004> FAIL! SHA256 is invalid

anyone know anything that can help?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Interceptor777:
Actually you can flash the TMB csc on Exynos devices.

However Odin won't flash it for you so you need to extract the CSC and make it a flashable zip that you can flash with TWRP. I did this with my Exynos S7.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
Has to be flashed as is and all apps installed through adb haven't gotten play store over without crashes though, and on factory binary it is more or less unusable we just need the permissive SElinux from it
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
Someone needs a modded kernel to use for those stuck on Sammy logo. For example: s7 active with the method I used got stuck. Until someone gets a kernel...

I feel some revisiting on the s7 active root guide should be taken. As I'm 90% sure it'd work but the exception of the s8. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
Well nothing has happened yet. But if a method is worked out using this? It most likely would work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
Here is the princecomsey version of Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
will need to see if Robert uploaded it or not yet

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Well the thing is, the factory firm doesnt contain an aboot.img.. so stock and combination firmware boots with the stock BL..

I tried a factory reset while on stock just flashing boot and it failed to boot but injecting combination boot.img into stock AP flashed in Comesy ODIN just fine..

we concluded the stock BL will boot both the stock and factory boot img.

so we do have the ability to boot into device on stock firmware with the combination boot.img and it is in permissive but at this point it was already after 330am my time haha so i went stock and called it a night..

a root injected tar in odin will not work as phone is still in secure boot/download unfortunately..

so we need to somehow if even possible leverage the permissive kernel while on stock to somehow temp root the phone for flashfire in hopes we can flash a root.zip or rom..

then again if its only a temp root and secure download/boot wont it revert any changes or fail to boot entirely?

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you cannot modify the img as it will detect the modification and fail to flash it entirely..

technically the stock and combination imgs/tars are signed which is why we can flash them but any modifications will throw an auth or sha256 error in odin

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it will not work. S7 used eng images, ours are factory images..

you cannot flash a modified kernel, it has to be the untouched factory or stock img to flash it due to secure download

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that is correct.. since all the firmwares/variants are essentially the same, if anything does come of it it should work on all s8/s8+ devices but we are far from it
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] meathammer386:
thank you and good luck
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akumai:
Another sidenote, might also just be a false flag too, but, checking the flashfire apk, when opened, its saying it detects an unsupported root on the device, and the root shows as "Null", but it doesnt outright say no root detected(i was messing around trying to get root installed before flashfire)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
Hmmm.....I think it is time to try and summon @ jcase. Maybe he could share his thoughts on the matter?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
Mis word on my part. Not a modded kernel but a kernel much like the one that allows the s7A to be rooted. Thats what I was meaning.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelessPWN:
I have been checking regularly for anything on the web that corresponds to the S8, engineering kernel, userdebug firmware, etc to no luck. Everyday I add more hours of searching to no prevail, I am thinking we need to find someone to leak it, or someone that leaks the firmware in general and see what we can get out of them
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billydroid:
And engineering boot.img is what you mean. But we might not need that. Hopefully it can be gained without it. The eng_boot.img's have their problems that come with them.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] this.guy.lol:
Can I debloat the US model at least? That and the volume mod is the only thing keeping me from buying one of these in the states