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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
With the recent news about Google no longer being allowed to force OEM's such as Samsung to pre-install Chrome on Android devices thanks to a new EU ruling, I hope to see Google put in more effort to support DeX to give us more incentive to install their browser on our devices.

I genuinely never use Chrome anymore I've disabled it on my devices, I'm mostly using both Samsung Internet and Microsoft Edge, as Edge does a better job at displaying desktop websites when requested, though Samsung Internet by default tells the page that it is in desktop mode.

But Google Chrome on DeX feels terrible and I don't plan to reenable the browser unless Google decide to make Chrome on DeX feel no different than Chrome on Windows.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Not necessarily a given unfortunately. Since abandoning the Pixel C Android tablet, Google appear to be pursuing a two device strategy; mobile exclusive Android solution (Pixel 3, Pixel 3 XL phones) and a Chrome OS solution (Chrome browser based) that can run Android apps and be a tablet/pen as well (Pixel Slate and Pixel Book convertible laptop). They'd much rather we adopted a Chrome OS device and are rumoured to be writing their own convergence OS codenamed 'Fuschia'.

It would not escape their notice if Samsung was to drop Chrome browser from all new phones. Samsung already offers lots of parallel solutions to Google (Play Store vs Galaxy Apps, Google Pay vs Samsung Pay, Google Drive vs Samsung Cloud, Google Health vs Samsung Health, etc) so there is no love to be further lost between the two giants. After eating at Google's table (providing Android for free), how dare Samsung rob Google of user data that rightfully belongs to them!

Fortunately Android apps and games enhanced to run on Chrome OS (support keyboard shortcuts, mouse pointer, right mouse button and proper scrolling) will benefit us DeX users too so there is a silver lining to this brewing cloud.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Confirmed - Google want their pound of flesh either way (https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/19/17999366/google-eu-android-licensing-terms) No Chrome browser and Google Search widget but still want Google services on EU phones, Samsung? USD$40 per DeX capable phone, please?

To Google, you are not a user, you are a product to be financially mined but this true for most of the Internet giants offering free services that we can't help using as they are so enabling.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
The inherent dangers of crowdfunding platforms have been highlighted once again by the spectacular collapse of a KickStarter project to deliver a 10.1" tablet that not only mirrors the phone's screen wirelessly but can also send touch inputs back to the driver device (acts as an input controller). It raised over USD$ 2.5 million last year but now has nothing to show for it and Kickstarter let it happen (again) to its patrons with little oversight after taking their 5% of the campaign fund at the beginning.

I've been part of a failed USD$ 1 million KickStarter project in the past and I feel their pain. I did look at the SuperScreen last year but it smelled fishy. Given the latencies of Miracast or even Bluetooth audio at times, I didn't believe it could be delivered. So it has come to pass.

MiraXess on Indiegogo has acknowledged this news and were quick to assure backers that they are not a failed project in the making despite the delivery date of the MiraBook having slipped 4 months as of October (latest delivery date is Dec 2018). While as backers we can never be absolutely sure, they do seem like a competent team, the technology isn't snake oil (DeX docks/pads and USB-C adaptors exist and they would had to have spoken to Samsung to guarantee the MiraBook would invoke DeX on the S8/S8+/Note8) and they continue be active in the comments section addressing every backer comment. The KickStarter Sentio SuperBook campaign also successfully delivered a quality lapdock although they appear to be having difficulty scaling their business beyond the US following initial delivery. I also got the NexDock from Indiegogo but product quality was poor and I don't use it nowadays.

I do hope MiraXess can pull off a quality product and capture the attention of Samsung as a fifth way to access the DeX desktop environment (Galaxy Tab S4 is the fourth) therefore offering a compelling range of enterprise mobile solutions and going forward, Linux on DeX. Fingers crossed for delivery by the end of the year.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] LavosCracker:
I got a Note 9 and the performance difference between Samsung S8+ and Note 9 in dex mode its huuuuuge.

I knew that would have a difference but not like this.

and about the discussion...Samsung could really use Dex for a lot o things. A lapdock and a gaming device for example.

A lot of these companies are aiming gaming market, and samsung has a lot of weapons in this space but I thik they missing opportunities.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Georking:
support guy:svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Chillcamper:
Hi all,

I maybe wanna but me a S8 and a Dex for use it permanent together.

My question is: if I let it all connected, phone, dex and monitor, is the monitor going in standby/sleep mode automaticly after usage?

Greetings Chillcamper
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Yep, it will.. It's the same principle as your phone is on standby..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] LavosCracker:
It's really annoying the lack of support of ultrawide monitors
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
Not really. It just turns my screen black, while still being on, not standby mode. (Galaxy S8)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] pimikiel:
I have the same expirience. Signal is still on when phone is in sleep. [S8]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Chillcamper:
... For my plan to install the dex fix in my mobile home I need that the monitor is going in standby ...

Somebody knows a work around for this problem?

Greetings Chillcamper
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] konvalink:
Hi, I gave a try Note 9 and DeX pad combination and found following problems. Did anyone find any solution?

1) Every non-Samsung keyboard doesn't work well in DeX - everytime I click on the input filed, it turns on a phone display.

2) Not possible to change keyboard (Swiftkey -> Samsung) on Dex, I have to do it on phone only.

3) In app's fullscreen - mouse in lower part of screen shows taskbar, which overlays apps controls. For example - quiet not possible to shift youtube video in fullscreen.

4) Black screen instead of shutting down monitor after timeout. (known issue)

5) Fast quality browser, which can remember "show desktop version of web". Chrome/Samsung Internet/Edge is falling to mobile everytime I open new tab. Others can't show many desktop pages correctly.

I tried to search in this thread, but withnout answers. Huge thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
I have a Note8 (upgraded to Android 8.0/Samsung Experience 9.0) and DeX docking station compared to your Note9 (Android 8.1/Samsung Experience 9.5 with multiscreen ability) and DeX pad but my experience is exactly the same as yours, namely:

1) On-screen keyboard now appears on the phone's screen and not in a floating non-modal desktop window as in the original Note8 Android 7.1/Samsung Experience 8.5 build. I agree this is a backward step by Samsung.

2) Samsung Experience locks out lots of options (greyed out) in DeX mode and I guess this is another of their software design decisions from SE 9.0 onwards. Shame as an on-screen keyboard set to a different language to the physical keyboard is really useful for selection of foreign/lesser used characters.

3) I think this is a per app developer issue as VLC and SkyTube (I don't use the YouTube app) will automatically hide the taskbar once you left-click anywhere on the screen outwith the taskbar.

5) This is to do with the browser's user agent string. Compare the DeX browser's user agent string at https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/parse/ with one from a desktop computer browser. Do further comparisons with the user agent string when the Samsung or Chrome browser is set to request mobile/desktop sites. This is what the InterWebs is reacting to.

You can manually spoof the user agent string in some desktop browsers like Firefox's about:config switch but I've been unable to find this option within a number of Android browsers. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
With the recent news of floating keyboard support being added to both Gboard and Samsung keyboard in Android P, this could mean that with the Android P update other onscreen keyboards will work in DeX too!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] :
Hey guys. I have one question. Did someone try to connect dex via amplituner to tv? Im thinking about i wish to play movie from kodi with dts / dolby digital audio via dex. Unfortunately i don't have any amplituner, but only yamaha soundbar which i bought few days ago.

I'm connecting dex / s8 in 2 ways

1. S8+ -> Dex -> TV (pretty old) -> optical -> soundbar

2. S8+ -> Dex -> soundbar (hdmi in) -> soundbar (hdmi out) -> TV (of course 2x 2.0a hdmi cables)

In first way soundbar detect only Dolby Pro Logic (Dolby Surround), in second way only stereo.

I tried to connect PS3 to soundbar, it detects Dolby Digital as well as DTS - it seems soundbar its okey.

I don't know it's will be Android Nougat issue* (or maybe root / mods / Viper4Android)?

*I talked with Samsung Chat guy and he said they used s8 / s8+ samples then connects to dex and audio on output was dolby digital (and video was in 2k resolution - on nougat )

Then back to question - did someone connect amplituner or have possibility and could check which audio is on output from dex / s8+? I would be grateful.

Of course you need any sample with dts / dolby digital audio (tons of them in www)

Output in 5.1 (same as 7.1) in 99,9% make possible MX Player and i think VLC. Of course Kodi too (100%)

I'm using 7.0 Nougat with Viper4Android, Lucky Patcher and Magisk if its make difference.

I used friend Note 9 with Oreo, my dex and tried to connect as point 2 but still is Dolby Surround. Did someone tried or could try how to set dolby digital / dts on output?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*Food for thought*

Will the Galaxy S10 support Thunderbolt 3 USB-C connectivity?

This article from Samsung news room suggests that they are commiting themselves to this technology in other products now, but if it comes to mobile then that will extend the possibilities of DeX far beyond what we have today and could possibly even enable support for external graphics cards for those times when you do need the grunt of a more powerful rendering machine. i.e. if you work for Pixar or you just want to see extreme graphics details in Fortnite!

Thunderbolt 3 offers upto 40Gbps bandwidth where as standard USB-C can offer variants with speeds of 5Gbps, 10Gbps or 20Gbps. Meaning that this move could at the very least double the bandwidth available for DeX mode when connecting all of your hardware and it could open up opportunities for multiple external displays at high resolutions in future releases of DeX! :)

https://news.samsung.com/global/thunderbolt-3-a-single-cable-solution-for-next-level-connectivity
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*Info*

Samsung has provided some guides on how to transition a business over to DeX, just thought that some of you may want the link! :)

https://www.samsung.com/us/business...th-samsung-dex/?CampaignCode=-SIGN-UP-TO-READ
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Thunderbolt is an Intel technology and it won't be in a phone any time soon.

Laptops and tablet like devices powered by Intel CPUs are another story.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Intel makes the radio chips provided in the iPhone, even though Apple use their own ARM CPU. Just because their CPU's are made for desktop PC's doesn't mean that they won't try to license out tech to mobile OEM's in the hope of taking a larger amount of money from the mobile hardware ecosystem.

Besides, Thunderbolt is not only in Laptops/Tablets, it is also built into some modern monitors to enable those high resolutions to be sent over Thunderbolt to the display.

The more products Intel can sell the better it is for Intels profits, if they don't allow Samsung to use Thunderbolt then basically Intel would be sacrificing potential profits from a product that they currently make no money from.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Other than the DeX application, I suspect most Galaxy S users don't use the data I/O capabilities of their current USB-C ports apart from the occasional 'connect to computer' moment to download/upload something big. Most users stream music/video and use the cloud for their pics. Samsung would effectively be paying an Intel Thunderbolt 3 tax for every phone it sells regardless of use.

I'd much prefer Samsung devote resources to implement official support for 2K, 4K and ultra-wide displays that the current HDMI hardware standard already enables. From your experience of using a 2K DeX desktop on the Galaxy S8+ and S9+, the SoC GPU appears to be the limiting factor in pushing all these pixels around to an acceptable speed rather than the current USB-C to DeX dock interface.

Samsung - give me support for 4K and those lovely ultra-wide curved displays you also happen to make and I'll buy a Galaxy Note10 on launch day!

---------- Post added at 09:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:08 AM ----------

Unfortunately a DeX mobile strategy would fail in the organisation I work in for two reasons:

1. No Active Directory support

2. Android!

Chromebooks can connect to AD and be centrally managed so Linux on DeX would improve the Samsung value proposition. We await new announcements from their annual SDC next month.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
In the enterprise people often use two monitors, so DeX needs to support high enough bandwidth over USB-C to output 4k [MENTION=8318601]60Hz[/MENTION] to 2 monitors.

I know that (at least the Note 9 anyway) has the GPU for upto 3 external monitors at 4k, but this requires a USB-C connection that can deliver the content at 60Hz.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Samsung's latest beta of Android 9.0 Pie and Samsung Experience 10 is arriving with the facility (first seen in Galaxy Tab S4) to enable DeX through any HDMI cable https://m.gsmarena.com/piebased_samsung_experience_10_to_allow_the_s9_to_use_dex_without_the_dock-news-34008.php.

It does come with a curious restriction of only allowing 5 windows to be opened at any one time which sounds rather arbitary and self defeating. The limit may be a beta test restriction (there has been no limit reported for the Galaxy Tab S4 for the same functionality) but it may also be to do with the fact that the phone will continue to drain its battery in this mode of operation (3,000mAH vs 7,300mAH).

My Note8 cannot charge wirelessly while simultaneously connected to a USB-C to HDMI/USB-A port adaptor (mirrored screen only) but this may be different for the current generation of Galaxy phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The Note 9 also supports any adapter, I use it myself, I believe that the reason for the non-official adapters being limited to 5 visible apps at once is to reduce heat as only Samsungs Pad/Station come with fans.

Honestly though, I never see any problems with these restictions as most of the time if I am running a large array of apps I minimise many of them whilst I am in the other apps just so that I can clearly see what is in the app in focus, or if you maximise one app the rest respond as though they were minimised so again this won't be an issue.

Since the limit is only on having 5 windows visible on screen side by side simultaneously, it is not really a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] fnd70:
Other files in desktop

Hi and thank you for Desktop Hub.

Now I have write recension and 5 stars in Google Play.

Is it possible add other files in desktop like Windows Desktop or Mac? I search in the system folders but I don't find the right folder.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
If you use solid explorer I know that you can right click on files and folders and create a shortcut on the desktop to your files and folders of choice :)

But I don't have permissions to modify the systems desktop context menu (trust me if I did I would absolutely overhaul the whole thing to try and make it more useful).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
I've had the same burning question for a long time and looked at this again following this discussion. Samsung's 'My Files' app will allow you to create shortcuts to files and folders for free (although not as intuitive as Solid Explorer).

1. Use 'My Files' to navigate to the folder containing the folder/file you require a shortcut to be created on the DeX desktop.

2. Left-click and hold to enable the multi-select function. Your intended target should be checked. Multiple targets can be selected for shortcut creation.

[EDIT: right-clicking on the target file, scroll down the context menu and select 'Add shortcut' will do the same as Solid Explorer for desktop as well as option to add it to the left-hand panel for every 'My Files' window you open.]

3. Left-click and drag the target file/s to an empty space on the DeX desktop before releasing the button.

4. A shortcut to your target/s will be created. No options to rename or change the icon however, only to remove the shortcut.

5. By left-click and hold before highlighting multiple shortcuts on the DeX desktop (apps, document/folder shortcuts), you can then right-click on the items and create a new folder (group) for the items like in the Android App drawer. You can name the folder for your purposes.

With so much thought/development having gone into DeX, I wish Samsung's documentation had included this timesaver not only for us 'old hands' to discover but also for the fleeting tech bloggers/journalists to credit Samsung's DeX dev team.

I'm now going to knock myself out with this new discovery!

---------- Post added at 09:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 AM ----------

You can also create shortcuts for favourite URLs on the DeX desktop from Samsung Internet (Add to Home screen option from the ... options menu).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ricksmad:
Hi

I'm using Dex on my note 9 with an USB c to HDMI adapter, but the option for WQHD is greyed...

The monitor is Samsung qled 4k....

I have tested so many HDMI cables an nothing...

Any idea?

Thanks!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] fnd70:
Hi,

Also I have the same problem with a compatible cable usb c/hdmi. The problem is it.

Now, I have a original Samsung Dex and It is all right . I chose Quhd witout problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
2k resolution is only supported on the DeX Pad/Station.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ricksmad:
Thanks for the answer..... But anybody knows why? Is there any plan to activate the resolution into no official accessories?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*LINUX ON DEX - NEWS UPDATE*

Register for the beta at the link below! :)

https://www.linuxondex.com

Email response:

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] janumix:
Yes ! Progress !

For now only Note9 and Tab S4 supported.

I hope for S8 also will be available soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Blast - my Note8 isn't invited! :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Naxxÿ:
After my Dex station not working anymore I bought this on AliExpress:

USB Type C HUB With HDMI RJ45 PD Thunderbolt 3 Adapter Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy Note 8 S8 S9 plus Huawei P20 MacBook pro

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/pzCRmac

I plugged it and it won't work neither as Dex with power neither as screen mirror with no power. All the hub function work (SD card reader, USB ports, fast charging etc etc.)

For the feedback I read it's working for most people on S9 and on Note 8 too.

Am I doing something wrong ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Diaconescu_Tiberiu:
I hope someone writes a tutorial how to install this. Haven't touched Linux in 15+ years. I wonder how will this work
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The Linux on DeX page seems to suggest that you just install the app, then download the OS from the link available on their page now, unzip it and then the app handles the rest
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
I've got my email with the link to the app (it's a Play Store beta). Downloading the Linux image right now.

Edit: I am really excited disappointed about this. The app crashes for me in DeX mode, so I cannot test anything.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] pimikiel:
Throw an apk. Maybe it will work on not-invited devices ;]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Someone got the apk in the other thread in the Note 9 forum. You can try. :)

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78134959&postcount=25
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] pimikiel:
So this is the result.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
So at least the app doesn't crash on your device.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Diaconescu_Tiberiu:
Got it myself also...but can't install for few hours. I'm wondering how will the apps work? Can you see any app you have in Android? Do they work? Or... Do you need to start installing "linux" equivalent apps? Do we have an linux app store unde dex-linux?

If questions seem stupid is because I'm a linux n00b in general.

For now my main concern with dex is that i can't run multiple instances of Microsoft Word&Excel...and other alternatives are not an option for me. So what i hope from linux-dex is to be able to run an windows emulator and than install Microsoft Office....or worse case scenario...install linux-based word and excel processing tools which might be better than the Android ones?

So ...what are my chances?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Ok, I got it to work. If the app crashes on startup, you have to turn off the DeX developer mode.

About my first impressions, I will just copy what I wrote in the other thread:

Linux on DeX is an app, which runs inside the standard DeX environment and it is completely seperate. So nothing changes for android apps. You can install linux apps, but there is no linux app store provided, you will have to find new applications on the web or install them trough the terminal ( and not everything works).

I don't think you will be able to run any Windows apps, but there is Libre office preinstalled.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I am running the latest Oreo build (Oct 1st security update) for the unlocked Snapdragon Note 9 model and it is working fine, I received the update on Tuesday, so manually check for updates on your device.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Frankyduxy:
Someone comment the youtube vid on the lack of GPU acceleration just by looking at the script loading. Other one saw something about the timer, I guess a long time loading.

Is there added resizing option for 3/4 ratio option and lower refresh rate ? As non GPUable linux on dex is meanly for coding and document work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] erclalle:
S8 here (CRI5), and I get the same popup as [MENTION=5726753]pimikiel[/MENTION]. I'm sure the check (probably for an exact firmware version or DeX version) can be bypassed, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] 3arthur6:
Same thing too, I think it checks for Oreo 8.1 as only have Note 9 and Tab S4.

Maybe a mod of the apk could bypass the check but not sur it's enough to launch linux.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SC07 TP2:
Linux on DeX XDA thread

For those patrons of this forum who aren't aware yet (but are interested), there is a very active Linux on DeX thread within XDA at https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/linux-dex-beta-t3864570 since the 8th Nov.

The only available Linux container (image) so far is Ubuntu and only ARM64 Linux distros/applications are able to be run on Note9s and Galaxy Tab S4s..

Not wanting to miss out on all the fun, I'm going to have a look at UserLAnd meantime.