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[HTC Excalibur] crimsonblake:
I'm not seeing the short_IE.lnk file in the windows folder. I see all the other .lnk, just not the one mentioned.

Turns out it seems to be a new problem with the new HTC rom. Hopefully this will be resolved soon.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I thought you were on the T-Mobile ROM when u said T-Zones key. Im not sure which key the T-Zones key is on an HTC branded device. If you can find that out maybe that'll help you seek out that .lnk file.
[HTC Excalibur] SirKeats:
i'm running the new htc rom and i had a short_IE.lnk file.

at any rate, find the jogger settings program if you're still having trouble. part of that program is that you can reassign your tzones key.
[HTC Excalibur] crimsonblake:
I've done some extensive searches and can't locate this "jogger settings program" do you have the cab file? Do you know the exact name of the program?

Thank you.
[HTC Excalibur] Mikey:
I have the same ROM(Love it)

I just added Task Manager to a speed dial.

Works for me :)
[HTC Excalibur] rydr1:
If you guys are looking for the t-zones key after the HTC ROM change it is

Windows\iexplore.exe

for some reason though i had to use total commander and then assing the key on the smart toolkit that im using.

when i had the t-mobile rom i was just able to change it with total commander.

i am using the t-zones key for the Tornado low light program.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidSa:
Hi

I am coming from a non-OS embedded firmware and Windows OS background and a newbie to the Linux and Android OS world.

I have got a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 development kit which is running a specific version of Android OS from Code Aurora. I want to download the source project of this OS to be able to make a few changes and rebuilt it.

The specific version I need is "LA.BR.1.2.4-01810-8x16.0" as listed at Code Aurora website under "Android for MSM Project" (I am unable to post the weblink being a newbie of this forum).

To get this project, I am following the instructions listed at this website which are:

Releases are available for download using Repo and Git. A specific release is downloaded by choosing both a branch and manifest from the Releases table.

$ repo init -u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git -b [branch] -m [manifest] --repo-url=git://codeaurora.org/tools/repo.git --repo-branch=caf-stable

$ repo sync

But I am getting some errors and unable to resolve them.

Here is the terminal window log when I try to get the source files using Git/Repo as per the link above.

digital@digital-A15A-HE-HC:~/Documents/S.Ali/BW/410$ repo init -u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git -b release -m LA.BR.1.2.4-01810-8x16.0.xml --repo-url=git://codeaurora.org/tools/repo.git --repo-branch=caf-stable

remote: Counting objects: 18, done.

remote: Compressing objects: 100% (12/12), done.

remote: Total 18 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)

Unpacking objects: 100% (18/18), done.

From git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest

65b6e6e..3004d8c aosp-new/emu-2.4-release -> origin/aosp-new/emu-2.4-release

c005393..52b8e1a aosp-new/lldb-master-dev -> origin/aosp-new/lldb-master-dev

7e723b6..eae6bdf aosp-new/lollipop-mr1-cts-release -> origin/aosp-new/lollipop-mr1-cts-release

88ac9b4..84298e7 aosp-new/marshmallow-cts-release -> origin/aosp-new/marshmallow-cts-release

1e9af62..83fe89c aosp-new/nougat-cts-release -> origin/aosp-new/nougat-cts-release

0498397..f505234 aosp-new/nougat-mr1-cts-release -> origin/aosp-new/nougat-mr1-cts-release

error: in `init -u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git -b release -m LA.BR.1.2.4-01810-8x16.0.xml --repo-url=git://codeaurora.org/tools/repo.git --repo-branch=caf-stable`: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/digital/.repo/manifests/.git/HEAD'

error: manifest missing or unreadable -- please run init

and when I try again, I get:

digital@digital-A15A-HE-HC:~/Documents/S.Ali/BW/410$ repo init -u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git -b release -m LA.BR.1.2.4-01810-8x16.0.xml --repo-url=git://codeaurora.org/tools/repo.git --repo-branch=caf-stable

error: in `init -u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git -b release -m LA.BR.1.2.4-01810-8x16.0.xml --repo-url=git://codeaurora.org/tools/repo.git --repo-branch=caf-stable`: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/digital/.repo/manifests/.git/HEAD'

error: manifest missing or unreadable -- please run init

Probably I am doing something silly and/or missing something very basic.

I would be very grateful for your help in resolving this issue.

Thanks
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
Hello friends,

I know many of you are OK with the fact that the stock OS is 32bit OS not 64bit OS ,but there may be guys like me who are not happy with this fact. FOA I wanna tell you that I really wanna use some apps which are only 64bit compatible(if u want name i can PM u) and due to the OS limitation I am unable to install and use these apps. I was new to moto g series and had a blind faith in Motorola thats y i purchased the device on first day of launch. Think yourself guys 4gb RAM nd snapdragon 625 are not enough to run a 64 bit OS? Yes it is infact it is more than capable to run 64 bit OS. Current OS is doing nothing more than limiting the functionality of snapdragon 625. Motorola people say 32 bit OS provide more power than 64 bit OS on 64bit chip, but thats not true qualcomm saying 625 is 64bit because it IS capable enough to run 64bit apps smoothly. Also you can visit here and here to see the performance comparison with redmi note 4, u will find that redmi note 4 is ahead in benchmarks even having heavily skinned MIUI and redmi note 4 uses a 64 bit OS. I even talked to a recognized developer here at XDA and he says ,"it's really unfortunate that motorola decided to go with 32bit OS. Snap 625 is more than capable of running 64bit OS".

Guys u can add weight here to my request for asking a real reason of not using 64 bit OS in g5 plus. Also i don't this RS 17000 is a small price. :(:)

Thanks
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] abeloman:
Again this question? Sorry, but I don't know why you're​ so obsessed with 64 OS

Enviado desde mi Moto G (5) Plus mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
It's not a question ,read it carefully..:confused:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] imightbesomeone:
Which apps can't you install?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
Have u heard name of dolphin emulator ? It's mobile version can only b installed on a 64 bit OS. ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ckret:
look here

https://softwareengineering.stackex...t-software-instead-of-64-bit-on-64-bit-machin
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kanteon:
Hi, sorry for noob question. Can 64 bit os is possible to install in g5 plus, if yes can some one explain a little, just for knowledge haha :)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
Yes it's possible but only if Motorola wants, No developer can make a full working 64bit rom for g5 plus because device specific binaries aren't available in 64 bit . ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kraatus90:
I believe they have done it so that 2gb versions won't get issues regarding low ram, and they didn't wanna build separate 64bit build for 3/4gb versions.

i think they could have gone with 3gb as minimum with 64bit os. 2gb is kinda low for a device like this.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
2gb works fine on a device like this.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Kufat:
It's a budget device from a second tier (at best!) manufacturer. Yes, the SoC could handle it; yes, it'd probably be faster; yes, 64-bit longs/pointers wouldn't make a big difference in RAM usage when you have 4GB, but Lenovo just doesn't care. I own one too and would also prefer a 64-bit ROM, but...such is life.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
And for me it's last moto device.. ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] triggerlord:
The phone isn't fast enough to emulate GameCube anyway. The Galaxy S8 barely manages.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
If it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have noticed this, all I can say is that it did mattered me till now as everything I use to install is supported and everything is snappy too. But I do understand that having a 32bit os is a letdown, those of you who are saying "it's okay" "why u need 64bit", just keep your mouth shut, I paid for the 64bit cpu for obviously running a 64bit os. There might be everything working fine till now but we do have a reason for an app to be unsupported on our devices. I had a device(yureka) with sd615 which I bought in 2014, it was amongst the first chipset to support 64bit yet it was on 32bit os as android 4.4 was the latest then and it was 32bit only, then with lollipop Android got full 64bit os and so our devices got an ota which updated our devices from 32bit to 64bit. This is just to point out that it's totally possible to upgrade this to 64bit if Lenovo thinks so. Thanks Lenovo for proving me that Motorola is dead as Motorola wouldn't have fooled it's customers like u Chinese company do, scammers.View attachment 4171577
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bornlivedie:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Tel864:
No need to whine. Moto has always been an entry to mid level phone and you should have known that. If you want 64 bit OS then you need to set your sights higher. After owning 4 previous Moto G models I probably won't buy another. No just because of the OS but because I think the company is now run by a bunch of idiots that only looks to push out a sub-standard piece of hardware to the masses. Lenovo will eventually kill the Moto line and that's a shame.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
I agree with everything u said except "If you want 64bit os then you need to set your sights higher". There's n number of devices(Redmi note 4/yureka) than cost half the price of Moto g5 plus and run 64bit android. It's just a matter of choice for manufacturers and going with the 64bit version doesn't add up the cost of device
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] triggerlord:
I love when people who know nothing about what their talking about open their mouths. It makes zero difference if this phone is running a 32 or 64-bit OS. Seriously, ZERO difference. Every app on Android runs as it's own user and can address a 32-bit space of memory. So even if the phone had 6GB of ram, you could still use it all on a 32-bit OS. Just not all in one app. (And let's face it, you're not going to do that on your phone.) The maximum addressable memory chunk in 32-bit mode is 4GB. (2^32 = 4,294,967,296 bytes = 4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096 MB = 4GB)

Also, the build quality on this phone is great. It's $229 - $299. The **** do you people want?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bornlivedie:
Oh, the contradictions...

If you know that the Moto G series is a mid level phone, then why whine about it's supossedly sub-standard hardware and buy one? Makes no sense.

The phone has an excellent SoC with 4GB of ram and a great camera. Everything for a great price. You get android 7.0 out of the box with high chances that you'll get even Android 9.

I don't know why we complain about a phone that never pretended to be a flagship.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
I agree [emoji111]

That's the reason I chose Moto g over lenovo P2 in the first place,

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+1

I have got all I wanted for the price with Moto g, and I agree that in general no-one can differentiate between the performance of a 32/64bit android, if it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have even noticed, it was all so snappy as expected [emoji4]

Btw I got this 4/32gb varient for $190, due to an exchange offer [emoji41]
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
LOL, no more words.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
I'm with u bro ,it seriously matters. And due to this reason i had sold my moto g5 plus and bought redmi note 3, and believe me rn4 ve a grt developer support.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
Lol, u sold Moto g5 plus for that, I won't do that ever. I have both note 4 and Moto g5 plus in my house and I would pick up Moto g5 plus anyday out of the two coz,

Everything runs fine on my Moto g,

It has stock android, I can't bear those Chinese version of iOS that Xiaomi has,

Moto g nails when it comes to camera.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JJSingh:
:p;);) i was just too obsessed with that.... and can't take this fact.... paying rs 17000 for 32 bit...u know
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * *

Although this thread IS in the discussion section, that discussion must be within Xda rules.

If your comment isn't respectful AND on topic, simply don't post it. If you want to bicker or insult each other, that's what social media is for.

Xda is not social media.

This is a courtesy warning. Please follow the rules when posting.

Thank you for your cooperation.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] alevity:
I believe it's more a issue with some of possibility. Not necessarily that the ones making these out cries would actually benefit daily from 64bit environment. It's a case of "why not" or "could be" I guess deep in all our tech hearts, we just want to have everything because.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
But one bummer for going with an 32bit os is lowered security standards, no matter how big Moto fanboy you are but don't make a fool out of yourself by defending that
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] surrealjam:
What's different in the security standards of 32 bit vs 64 bit? Genuine question... I've never heard of this comparison being made. Most of the comparisons are based around memory limitations.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ckret:
there is none
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
Are u sure?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] triggerlord:
I bought the 2GB/32GB variant for $229. No regrets, it's probably the best budget phone I've ever had. I've owned a lot of moto phones BTW. It's definitely better then the honor 6x. I hated that phone. The screens glass is terrible.

It's true. No difference in security.

"I don't have an argument, isn't that funny?"
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Manas56:
Xiaomi for less than $200 sells devices with 64 bit OS and with a heavily skinned UI. Still it has better geekbench and antutu scores over Motorola phones using the same chipset but with Stock Android. Its all due to the 32 bit OS in MOTO Devices. Xiaomi phones are more value for money with better battery and more specs than Moto but the only con they have is their average camera(attributed to the less price.)

Moto's era has come to an end thus especially in India as Xiaomi devices are getting launched with better cameras in the same price bracket.

People especially out of india should also note the double standards of MOTO when its launching the same phones at a lesser price (lesser equivalent exchange) in India compared to that in US or UK. For Ex- Moto Z play, Z2 play, G5 plus, G5S plus etc. They all launch in higher dollar, euro rates globally compared to India where the same $ or euro is worth more rupees or INR than what they launch it for since they know Indians have less affordability.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] acejavelin:
Sounds like you should have bought a Xiaomi device then...

I can't believe this whole 32/64 bit discussion is still going on...

And your benchmark scores, are the two devices ABSOLUTELY identical except the OS architecture? No, they are not, you are comparing 2 different devices that have a ton of differences that could effect performance outside of the OS.

And I am not sure what you mean by the last paragraph... you are saying that having devices cost more in the US/EU than in India when you evaluate the raw exchange rate is a bad thing for India??? You get the same device (better in some cases, in the US our MG5+ doesn't have NFC) but pay less than we do and that isn't beneficial to you? Honestly, it is neither good or bad, the devices are likely cheaper in India because Moto can sell more of that variant, thus produces more, which lowers the cost of the manufacturing. It is simple economics. TBH, Moto is not very popular in the US or the EU like it used to be, it's market share has fallen considerably, but in Latin America and India Moto sales are growing and market share is increasing... they may even be reducing the price in some markets and selling at a smaller profit (or even a loss on some devices) for more market penetration which can yield more sales later.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] rishivg:
64bit maybe possible in future!

See it is confirmed that we are all gonna get Oreo update by Moto... It could be possible that they may upgrade the OS to 64 bit via oreo update...

I used to use Yureka earlier.. they did the same the provided a 32bit kitkat OS out of the box but later they provided a 64bit Lollipop OS update... that made our system much more efficient..

Maybe this would be the plan...:confused::confused::confused:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] itslels:
I don't see the big deal. Does your phone not work? Mine runs smoothly with good battery life, no matter the rom I'm on. Perfoance wise, absolutely no complaints. You're not going to get better performance for this kind of money.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] triggerlord:
64bit isn't inherently more efficient than 32bit. For insistence, 64bit OS' and apps use more ram. Which causes reloading and apps closing in the background. Which uses more battery.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] itslels:
So, again, why does it really matter? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Awesome battery life and the phone runs so smooth.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] McKellen:
What ROM and kernel are you running?

And what's the name of the theme you using? It looks cool
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Karlinski:
64 bit is no better or worse than 32bit in any way... Let's just drop this pointless, waste of time discussion, eh?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] itslels:
Dirty Unicorns 11.7 with elemntalX kernel. Theme is dark material for subs.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
I have both Xiaomi Redmi note 4 and the Moto g5 plus, the difference in in hand feel and overall experience of Moto g5 plus is unmatched by any other budget phone. And I don't even need to comment on how the camera is in Moto. I like miui, but I love stock android. These are the reasons why Redmi note 4 is now used by dad, I ditched him and snached his Moto [emoji102]

Another thing here is privacy, miui is a Chinese malware, that's the reason why western countries don't endorse Xiaomi. I mean who needs an antivirus inbuilt into an Android os that keeps "scanning your apps", also it leaks data to Chinese servers and indian army personnels serving in critical defence areas are INSTRUCTED not to use a Xiaomi device.

And boy that "2.5d curved glass", I mean what the ****, what is even any need to use a curved glass when you haven't provided and tempered protection, since the purchase I haven't found a single actual screen guard for this redmi note 4, same is the case with Lenovo P2, I mean what is even the use of this glass, other then a marketing gimmick and turning a "needs to be protected" thing into a "deal with that, boyyyy!" Just to add, after applying any edge to edge glass (if you are able find an actual one) back cases stop fitting and if you apply pressure then edge to edge glass comes out, and if you don't use a cover, deal with those fingerprints that the back panel attracts, also the lack of drop protection that comes along with not using a case. Good job Xiaomi [emoji120]

But now things are good in terms of Xiaomi too, I am talking about mi A1(still using the 2.5d glass [emoji53]), whose a part of android one programme, design isn't original by any means (ahem ahem OP5 also a copy [emoji52]) but I like to put a case on anyway, my deciding factor will be the camera, and viewing the reviews that have came out till now, Moto g5s plus's camera is better, isn't a surprise for me anyway.

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Oh! And I forgot to mention about the difference in after sales service between moto and xiaomi,

Also there is no performance difference in Redmi note 4 and Moto g5 plus, so that 32-64bit doesn't matter.

And did I mention that Moto g5 plus has a dedicated micro SD card slot? And fast charging? And Gorilla glass 3? And a front facing speaker? And Better calibrated screen? And NFC? And Electronic image stabilization?

In the end, I would easily pay $50 more for having that peace of mind of a good after sales service and better PRIVACY and android experience that Moto provides over Xiaomi, everyone has their own preference, so this is mine.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
Xiaomi offer boot loader unlock?

3rd part ROM support?

Verizon support?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
1. Xiaomi's unlocking process is very lengthy,

2. Yes there are 3rd party roms but Xiaomi or any other brand for that matter don't support custom roms. But they say that rooting doesn't bios warranty, just like OnePlus (Chinese brand) and YU televentures (indian brand)

3. Can't comment on that
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
So a Verizon user has a very good reason to go with Moto.

And a "lengthy" process doesn't sound very friendly.

Obviously OEM doesn't support 3rd party stuff. I was asking how much 3rd parties were supporting the Xiaomi device in question or Xiaomi devices generally.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
Yes, US carriers generally have better compatibility with Moto devices, Moto x is launching with android one (means regular security patches and android updates for 2 years minimum), would be a good device if you need a good software + decent hardware, also Moto devices feel more durable then Xiaomi in general, Xiaomi's mi a1 is a well built device but previously this was not the case.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
Manas56 was trying to argue there's no viable reason to buy the Moto instead of the Xiaomi. I was pointing out some very valid reasons. Verizon compatibility being a big one for US customers, including me.

I find the factory bootloader unlock and 3rd Party support important too. I was looking at an LG G5 which is unlockable too, but poor 3rd party support for a 1.5yr old device. That will likely keep me from buying it.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pooniaprashant:
Everyone has their own priorities, carrier support and after sales service is enough to opt for any Moto device instead of importing any Xiaomi smartphone. In India Xiaomi is officially in the market so some sort of after sales service is there, but still Xiaomi is amongst the worst after sales service provider in India too. Samsung, Sony, lg and Moto are the best if you consider after sales service here in India, and Xiaomi's fanboys get butthurt instead of solving any issues reported by some unlucky users in the forums. Xiaomi makes good devices no doubt about that, but some people don't settle with just a good device, they need an reliable service, and this is where other reputed brands shine. And I don't think this is ever gonna change, as Xiaomi can only sell their devices if they are cheap, and for cutting the costs they cannot afford good after sales services. Same is the case with OnePlus.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Gengstar:
Is it possible that the next upgrade, which might probably be Oreo(hopefully this December) would be a 64-bit OS? hope that's the case .