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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
maybe someone can help me with a little issue I'm having...

I've connected keyboard and a mouse via Bluetooth... I use 2 languages, - English and Russian... for some reason changing languages on keyboard is impossible just by simple 2 button press... so what I have to do is bring up Virtual dex keyboard press language button to switch keys say from English to Russian, close the virtual and now my physical keyboard types in Russian.. to go back to English I have to do the same... bring up Virtual, press to change and hide Virtual... but the craziest part is the fact that after few times doing so, while on Russian, pressing virtual button to switch to English language dex freezes.. I've tried 3 different keyboards, I thought maybe a wired keyboard will make a difference (keeping Bluetooth mouse but wired keyboard) but no, same freeze happens... as soon as I completely disconnect keyboard (Bluetooth or Wired), virtual keyboard using Bluetooth mouse works fine switching languages... so right now I'm using virtual keyboard swiping but kinda disappointing... am I doing something wrong?! maybe settings in dex keyboard... tried few things but result was the same.. any advice would be appreciated. thanx.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
If you have DeX Hub Pro, you can quickly enable/disable the 'Shift+Space' key combo by pressing 'Ctrl+Shift+Space', you will see a quick popup message to notify you of the current state of the 'Shift+Space' key combo.

This should help when you want to switch languages, without the annoying unintentional language switching!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
it's actually 2 am and I was still doing research... bought hub pro and DEX max to resize third party apps... tomorrow will try... cauze that freeze is annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Admeria:
What do you mean by this:

1) want to see and use an active screen on the phone?

2) just ringing or texting?

Item 1) at the time beeing, not possible, but I agree active phone screen would be very usefull as a second smaller vertical screen,

Item 2) all the phone features are available via dex,
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I've said before,

prior to DeX's announcement, I was working on something similar to DeX.

With the Android 8.0 Oreo API's (in the developer preview) I was able to run applications on multiple screens in a much more effective way with independent resolutions & DPI's on each screen.

So I assume that this will be possible for Samsung to acheive in Oreo!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
Guys... anothwr challenge. Gamefly or any other geforce now like app on Samsung dex. If it would be possible, we will have some gaming station able tonlaunch any PC game available in stream. There is few silutions for some smart tvs why not dex?

And since it is not an ordinary accessory it would be awesome if mods or admins could create some separate topic for Dex station since it is verybhard to track all the topics started in one thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Guys I have modded the Kodi apk to enable it to run in full screen.

As I can't modify the run-time code, I cant hide the navigation bar, but the app now fills most of the screen and if you use Meta+Up to hide the nav bar, it doesn't look quite as stretched like it does with the official build of Kodi!

Kodi Modded for DeX download

[IMG="Kodi Modded for DeX"]http://i64.tinypic.com/e7ng4w.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Kodi Modded for DeX - Meta+Up"]http://i66.tinypic.com/2llhzl3.png[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Today Huawei announced their new phones Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro. It has a desktop mode, which can work with any adapter/cable. Phone and desktop mode can work simultaneously. Phone can act as a touchpad and a keyboard. Still looking for more information.

A video I found on youtube showing the desktop mode:

https://youtu.be/VVwyB3R-R08
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] alhart345:
Good video, neat features compared to Dex is the phone screen remains active, can be used independently from the desktop simultanesouly? For current Samsung users this is great news, more competition should stimulate Samsung to move faster in the development of their desktop. We should also see more and better apps for desktops too! I have been a bit of a Huawei Mate fan, although never owning one. Have been watching the progress of their inhouse Kirin processors performance with great interest.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Agree with you . Samsung has been sitting on their hands for way too long without making any significant imprevements since the release of Dex. It's great to have competitions. Here's Huawei's official intro video: https://youtu.be/UTwV9cJ2c_M

Cheers,
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Man! Huawei Mate Pro 10 totally done it!

Dex is the main reason I bought S8, and seeing Huawei's system (which doesn't need special dock and accessible screen) really hypes me up.

I really plan to exchange my S8 to huawei if things really goes well there...

Rooting and tripping S8 knox doesn't seem an option for me right now because I really enjoy the knox feature (especially secure folder to "secure" things up, and samsung gift which helps me live daily lives through discounts and such)

Well, to keep this post stay on topic as well..

My phone goes overheated from time to time when I use it on the station. I think it is caused by the fan which doesn't go full power even when the phone is heated.

Is it caused by my power brick? I'm only using the original S8 one - which doesn't even enable quick charge on dock, and thus I think the station neeeds more power to operate better.

Anyone have the same experience?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I'm at SDC2017 now, and I can say that there appears to be alot of DeX booths getting set up at the moment!

So I'm guessing that SDC will bring a lot of attention to DeX! ☺️

p.s. it doesn't officially start until tomorrow by the way.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] alhart345:
I use the C-FORCE unit (so no fan), and have my S8+ Exynos 4GB in a Zivo bolt case (reduced airflow and increased insulation), and have not had any temp problems since purchase about 2 months ago. I also have only the original charger which trickles in over a very very very long period of time. I use lots of browsers and VLC, but no games. Perhaps a naughty app is causing it?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Hmm... Usually on dex dock it heats up if I watch too many FHD videos from youtube or media player while opening browsers etc..

It sometimes generates the same problem undock when I use it for extensive gaming while fast-charging and using an otterbox defender case.. But, well, rarely..

I don't say that it happens a lot. But at those times, it is annoying since I have to take my phone out of the dock, rinse it on water so it cools down fast, dry it up for a while, then finally go dock it up again.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I aren't sure that I can say anything yet, but I will just say that I think that there is something big that will be announced for DeX during SDC! ?

*UPDATE*

Linux on Galaxy (DeX):

https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] L0SW0LF0S:
Holy... I'm a bit overwhelmed. Does that mean that normal Linux Programmes will run on the DeXed phone? I'm especially flirting with the JDownloader that has no good pendant on Android but that would not be my only choice. Will the installer recognise the phone as Linux then? *tipples from one foot to the other* :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
This is good news, but ... if only it allow us to use linux apps with graphical user interface (GUI), like Crouton for ChromeOS. If it is limited to terminal apps it won't be much better than what we already got with the Termux app (Screenshot of it on my desktop)

Really hoping for the first option, because it could be a game changer!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I was told that you can run any distro of Linux on top of DeX

i.e. Ubuntu.

If I find out more that I can share, I'll let you know! ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] ars0n:
If only now I could use my aircrack wifi card with it and use dex for cracking with kali =D (without root that is) =D
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
Here is an article about the new feature: https://www.sammobile.com/2017/10/18/samsung-dex-gets-support-running-linux-os-linux-galaxy-app/

I hope we'll get an updated Dex for the S8 soon (maybe with the Oreo release - I think Oreo contains a few features that can be useful for a desktop experience), and this Linux for Dex thing isn't far away either!

The Mate 10 should shake up the competition too... exciting times!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I've just tried the Ubuntu on Arm build running on DeX, and they say that it is running on the same kernel as Android! I will upload a pic for you later!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
That perfectly makes sense. Installing Linux distros on Android using the same kernel is easy, there are installers since the beginning. As Android doesn't use the standard unix folder names (usr, bin, lib...) installing Linux won't overwrite the Android system.

I'm glad Samsung realized that they can build a basic desktop on Android, but for a full mobile workstation they need a more serious base OS. And finally the hardware is there to run a full Linux system without problems.

The main challenge now is to integrate the phone software - like notifications, calls, messages; apps - especially calendar, email and games; and hardware - like using the phone as a touchpad, integrating wifi and bluetooth controls in the Linux desktop.

Anyway, please share with us your impressions too (like usability, user experience...).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
So, I should note that DeX will be exactly as it is now, but you can launch Linux and it will launch like any other app. So DeX will still show all of your Android apps fine, but you can run Linux apps on the Linux distro.

I am excited to see if I can use 'Wine' on there, as that will allow Legacy Windows apps to run directly from the phone! :)

*Update*

Picture of it in action:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nikexv2:
Wow very nice ! How come you already have access to the app ?

Is there a beta or developper preview ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
This is at a booth at the developer conference (SDC2017).
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS UPDATE*

So I can't say anything now. But what I will tell you is that you should NOT! Switch to the Huawei alternative!!!

Samsung has some big updates coming soon that will make Huawei's desktop look useless in comparison.

I've given them a load of feedback from you guys and my apps users, to try to perfect DeX in more ways, but what they have coming soon already looks very good!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
It is very nice to hear that. Big... big thanks to you!

I will be doing soon some Dex presentation to our international CIO. Just imagine a company running thousands of dexes! cross your fingers!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] bunders:
Any updates on increasing the resolution ? I really can't see this as a viable solution until that improves.

Thanks

Ian
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I spoke about that to the person in charge of DeX, and he couldn't say much, but I get the impression that something may be getting tested.

I've mentioned community feedback about resolution, DPI and aspect ratio, and coincidentally, just as I was going on about this, someone interupted our conversation, spoke about a few things and later made a point about resolution/DPI!

I have said to the guys at DeX that this is one of the biggest gripes from the community which I can't create a workaround for with DeX Hub, so it requires action on their side.

I have made a point about my Shift+Space workaround being limited because it doesn't have the ability to inject a space afterwards, so I requested that they look to replace Shift+Space with Ctrl+Shift.

The guys seemed to really take this seriously and taken notes and then had a conversation in Korean (which i couldn't understand) and they mentioned 'Shift+Space' during that conversation. So I assume that will be something that they look to fix soon!

when they do I will remove the override option from DeX Hub as it won't be needed anymore!

I've also made a point that due to limitations DeX Hub is not allowed to allowed to read mouse input events, so i hope that they will provide the tools to fix this so I can provide you with additional functions or more enhanced ways of acheiving certain actions!

Also guys check out this artical from Samsung Press about upcoming plans and goals for DeX:

http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/s...em-pushes-the-possibilities-of-the-smartphone
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Meleor:
Hi guys,

I'm responsible for the "Samsung S8 Dex without Dex Station" thread where we succeed in unlocking the feature to none-Samsung Docks.

I've read a lot about the Mirabook lapdock in this thread and I wanted to let you know as a project contributor they gave me a special link with a special price.

A lot of you are complaining about the price, and with this link you'll get your Mirabook at $199 instead of $250 which is good price I think.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...droid/x/16210921?secret_perk_token=af29661e#/

For me, the Mirabook is the best solution for those who are too lazy to hack a Motorola lapdock or a Macbook as I've seen :D

Cheers guys
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nikexv2:
This really looks promising, but really ressource demanding at the same time !

Have they talked about the release of the app ? I already signed up but i'm really too hyped. This would mean no more laptop for me and me favorite text editor to code from linux with many plugins (atom) in my pocket !
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
They haven't given a date yet. But you will hear the news from the link provided! :)

*UPDATE*

Check out the CPU usage when Ubuntu is running on DeX!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
That is really awesome! Looking forward to it!

The main reason is, I'm now switching from windows workaround to android.. Samsung dex is now my main machine, and there are improvements I'd hope from them..

To be honest, the main thing I really wish for (besides having a dex-laptop) is the native ability to open dex without dock...

But I think it won't happen since samsung need some cash grab from the dex station.

That is also the main reason I am looking up to huawei (and also its ability to having a mouse and keyboard on the screen).

But hey, as I said, I'm looking forward for another dex update!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I think that since DeX can run any Linux OS in this new feature, Huawei's alternative just isn't comparible!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] StardustGeass:
Well, in one sense, yes... But to be honest, android feels enough for me... And I hoped the linux OS doesn't burden my phone until it sluggish or anything.. hahaha

Also, the reason I love huawei mode is because it means less dongles (less dock station, in samsung dex case) to bring when I use my phone for presentation... Well, it's just I don't have the courage to root the phone. Also, I use the knox feature and apps like samsung gifts and such, so yeah.

Hope samsung opens up the path and makes the dex accessible via any dongles :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] CVLover:
Is it 3d accelerated?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] kbarni:
[MENTION=5417261]nikexv2[/MENTION] you can test Linux on a Raspberry Pi, which is much slower than the S8 - it still runs well. On an Odroid XU4 (with Exynos 5422 chip instead the 8895 of the S8) it already flies.

[MENTION=4424289]StardustGeass[/MENTION] if I understand correctly Linux will be an optional feature. I agree that the Android interface still needs polishment.

I agree that being able to use the phone's screen while docked is the thing I miss the most on Dex, and currently it's the biggest advantage of the Mate10.

You can still have Dex without the dock on unrooted phone if you use a compatible 3rd party adapter. But I completely agree that Samsung should open this feature for any HDMI adapter - they would win much more with a wide adoption of Dex than by selling some docks. (Further ideas: add it to next years A series phones too! Open-source it!)

The Samsung management should take a look at Android - it's free, open-source and still earns billions to Google by becoming the standard mobile os.

Making money with a lapdock would make much more sense than selling that overpriced Dex dock.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nikexv2:
Yes i know linux on rapsberry pi i use one as a media center, but it is not the same as it is a special distro made for the pi. Here you get the abillity to run ANY linux distro on top of the already running android.

I dont tgink samsung will open the abillity to use any adapter, they already developped an accessory and sold it to numerous people... i would not be happy if i bought 140$ dock and they allowed a 20$ adapter to work...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
They have used some of the recent advancements in ARM technology to enable it to run significantly faster, one of the guys said that, since it shares the same kernel, it doesn't need to use so much CPU power like a VM, and it only needs to use the GPU to visually update the screen just like the normal DeX experience.

Also noteworthy, we were monitoring the CPU usage through DeX Hub, and in order for them to get the CPU usage up to 100% when Ubuntu was running, they had to deliberately add excess work to a compile script (compiling a Linux build) in Ubuntu.

So the guys have done a great job there!

The trackpad like experience I believe that they are working on that, but Samsung has a higher quality assurance level, so it needs to undergo some extra testing than Huawei's alternative.

This may mean that it takes longer to reach us, but I think that the end result will be much greater!

There are many things that we have discussed that they are looking to add, but quality assurance means that it will take a little time to reach us.

But if you're willing to use the upcoming beta version of Oreo, I think that based on what they have mentioned so far, we could see some of these improvements a little earlier!

Though the Linux feature (this is not an official statement, but I'm guessing based on our discussions) may not arrive until between December-March because they need some small refinements in a few areas, though it looks (mostly) ready to use as a daily driver in my opinion!

We were also just off the record throwing ideas up, and Wine support came up into discussion. Now apparently, Wine on ARM has already been achieved through some of the latest ARM technology to enhance virtualization by another group and the Linux on Galaxy team have mentioned that this could be something that will eventually be implemented, though this is just a possibility that we were discussing and nothing official.

Honestly though, my conclusion after watching the Huawei video and attending SDC is that DeX is a higher quality experience, with everything being more refined to ensure that you get a well delivered experience.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
[MENTION=3194398]kbarni[/MENTION]

You forgot what was the goal of Dex. It was suppose to be for business solution. By having Station you have 2x usb, hdmi and ethernet port. Look how many request there was for usb-ethernet switch.

Samsung told it at the beginning this is not a MOBILE solution. Dex is to create some working desk and help you in terms of costs.

For example, my company for any new employee must buy:

Manager:

1. Laptop

2. Mobile Phone

crew member:

1. Desktop Phone + cost of telephone switchboard

2. Computer

3. Mobile scanner

With dex solution you can make customized working desks, you can buy a cell phone for any Manager or crew member and you do not have to buy all other mentioned things.

Still it needs more work to help us IT team to manage IT problems. Need some tools to manage remotely user problems, block access to some of applications, create some unified solutions and standards to work on Android.

Maybe also create some business apps. But the foundation is ready!

This does not mean that I am against making dex system work without Station.

It would be awesome if you could make any presentation in other companies with only your phone in the pocket.

You connect phone to hdmi projector(use your phone as a touch pad with on screen keyboard and launch any powerpoint or show anything on Dex system.

P.S.

+ You get extra usb fast charger adapter ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
A lapdock maybe on the cards, but in the meantime, you can look into the 'miraxess mirabook'
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Anything from Samsung on proxy server support on ethernet?

This is one of the few things stopping my company from buy a lot of these.

Great news on Linux!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] alhart345:
Anandtech Huawei hands on

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11935/huawei-mate-10-pro-hands-on-with-kirin-970

Looks very cool, the writer notes some lags with bluetooth connections, so maybe not as polished as Dex?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
Did you try ProxyDroid app?

I cannot test it since we use Fortinet and it is configured to restrict access to internet for workstations without Fotrinet client installed.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Thanks,

Will test it but IT department won't allow rooting the phones. And I guess that's still needed?

Also I would consider it a workaround for the shortcomings of a product said to be for businesses.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] dorsefrith:
We think about using it only to access to TS server. You can set proxy but only in wifi connection. Setting is in advanced settings. Maybe on monday I will test few apps. If there is an option in wifi it should not be a problem. Maybe Dex Hab or Dex Max apps could prepare some options for that?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] maxnik1:
Some more good news. The Galaxy S8/S8+ software update for October is rolling out and part of its description says "The stability of DeX mode has been improved.".

I haven't received it yet, so I can't say what's new related to DeX, but hopefully I will get it soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I suspect that may have fixed the keyboard shortcut info crash (Meta+/ or in the keyboard settings menu)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
can someone please answer this question to me?!

I used to have (still do) Meizu M3 Note as a media device to connect through USB debugging to a laptop to screen mirror device to laptop screen because of Wi-Fi tether limitations and too expensive modem fees... so when Dex came out I was ecstatic... now I simply run my S8 on dex connected to a monitor with Bluetooth mouse and Bluetooth keyboard... i rarely take my S8 of Dex, only if I leave home but when I'm at home or work, it's always on a stand... either idle or streaming.

when it's off (during sleep), it's cool, when it's working (for hours and hours) it's just a little warm... literally just a little bit warm...

but the question is, - is there any negative side to keeping S8 always in Dex Station?! cpu, battery etc... a long term negative sides?

thanx...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I do the same, I've had it since it first came out and had no problems, but maybe someone more experienced in how the modern battery is affected by charging continuously could answer your question.