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[X Style (Pure) General] IceKreamMan:
My son's MXPE battery was going while he was away at school and wife thought I would brick phone when replacing battery so I replaced with a Xiaomi Mix 2s. I was fully expecting to unlock bootloader (which you can, if when submitting unlock request to Xiaomi, you state phone came with a 3rd party ROM and you want to replace with authentic Global ROM) and install Lineage but Global ROM setup was a breeze and came pre-installed with Google Play Services. Mix 2s is on AT&T with LTE with absolutely no issues with carrier; I was originally turned on to the Moto X Pure because my reception was so poor, and still is as I live down in terrestrial "dip", and Samsung and iPhone couldn't and still can't hold a call - house guests still try though. I read some heresay saying Mix 2s reception was better than Samsung and since son is at school most of the time anyway I rolled the dice, and reception with Mix 2s is great (he is home for Christmas so well tested here). I don't even need to unlock bootloader to change build props flag to allow hotspot. Phone is used with a budget 3rd party carrier who leases AT&T towers and hotspot works just fine as flag is not pre-set according to silly US specifications and profit strategy. Mix 2s I think is fractions of an inch smaller than MXPE but screensize is actually bigger.

If you read up on Mi Mix 2s you will find that phone was made for the American market but White House wouldn't let Xiaomi in. I can't quick reply with a url but you can google "Forbes Mi Mix 2 Was Built With The U.S. Audience In Mind".

Mi Mix 2 bands appear to be the same for AT&T as Mix 2s but honestly I didn't research Mix 2 that much. Brand new factory sealed Mix 2s with SnapDragon 845 6G+128GB was $404 shipped while Mix 2 6GB+128GB at the time was about $325. I only researched phone against AT&T so other carriers mileage will and do vary.

And I did replace MXPE battery without issues so now I have a spare in a drawer. My son didn't want MXPE back. Only drawback with Mix 2s that I have is warranty really only covers DOA and is subjective to whoever you buy from. I couldn't buy phone directly from Xiaomi web site and ship to US.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Still rocking the Pure Edition

Even to this day, after nearly two years of ownership, I have yet to find a viable replacement for the Moto X Pure Edition. Last year's battery replacement (with a genuine part from oem_liquidation, the only seller of legit FX30 batteries in business) and my learning that the cause of the whole battery drain problem was Magisk, has led me to continue onward with this unstoppable device. 2017 and 2018 were bad years for smartphones, that's for sure. Hopefully someone puts together a decent successor soon so that I'll have something to buy used 1-2 years down the road when it comes time to replace.

Interestingly enough, there have been some rumblings that Verizon Wireless might shut down its entire CDMA system by then, reducing their effective coverage and bringing them closely in line with AT&T, thereby increasing the scope of viable smartphones dramatically. :cowboy:
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Moto X4 Android one version is currently $150 32GB model and $199 64GB model. 32GB with expandable storage is more than adequate for my needs. Anyone think this is a good deal? Granted I would give up stereo speakers, but given the phones release date age, what do you think?

For slightly more there is the Nokia 6.1 which is Android one so I'm really on the fence here. I'm on T-Mobile with no plans to switch to Verizon, Sprint, or any other CDMA option so the lack of CDMA support is not an issue.

With the prices getting so low for midrangers and 3 years of use out of my MXPE, I think it is time to start looking hard. Given how I use my phone (only a few casual games, some pictures, and basic everyday tasks like email, web searches, etc., and the occasional video), I just can't justify spending much on a phone. FHD is plenty sufficient and the MXPE pushes the max size of a phone screen I can comfortably deal with one handed. The only loss I see at this point is stereo speakers but I can live without it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
It's okay, I guess...

If you're going for something brand new, the X4 is probably OK, but nothing to write home about like the Pure Edition. The camera will almost certainly be crummy, and the design is from the 2017 Lenovo dark ages, which is almost as bad as some of the rounded-corner screen fugliness that we've seen out of the other OEMs in the past two years.

The X4's saving graces are price, battery life, and software. It's also got a minimum of 32GB of storage and 3GB of RAM. If you don't care about looks (seriously, this thing is almost as bad as the Galaxy S8!) or cameras and solely want an acceptable phone brand new at a good price, then the X4 could theoretically deliver, on paper at least.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I figured as much. Any thoughts on the Nokia 6.1? It has a slight larger screen and a solo camera but specs are pretty much similar.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
I have a Nokia 6.1. It's kind of meh. I jokingly describe it as the most adequate phone ever.

Picked it up after I got sick of the Moto G4 with janky volume buttons I replaced my deceased X with.

It lags way more than I would expect for an SD630, and the camera quality is bad. I think software just isn't HMD Global's strong suit. It is an Android One phone, but it comes packed full of evenwell crapware. Evenwell designed Nokia's (crappy) camera and packed in a bunch of telemetry, task killers, battery protectors and other generally unnecessary garbage. The thing has 3GB RAM, but it runs like a phone with 1 - 2GB because it has the built-in evenwell task killer. It seriously has killed an active media player a handful of times.

There is no official bootloader unlock, if you care about that. There is a method, but it is paid and comes off as shady as all get out. However, the only reason to unlock would be to use TWRP or root to debloat the stock rom because development is largely non-existent. There is a LOS port and another rom or two using that base, but it is bugged to the point of unusable.

The only real high points are updates and the price. I'm currently on Android P, Jan 2019 security patch and there's a good chance I'll get Feb any day now. And I got the thing for $150 at Best Buy in December, so it's got that going for it.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Thanks for the input. Reviews I have read have been kind of a mixed bag for the Nokia 6.1. For the price, the Moto X4 is looking like the better option. But I may stick it out a little while longer with my MXPE.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Nokia phones would be a pretty good choice if Grandma Hazel wants something cheap to check her email and look at cat pictures with. However, anyone who browses XDA forums is likely to find nothing but faults with them.

I'd still be using my MXP if it hadn't died.

Knowing what I do about Nokia's android offerings now, I'd stick with Moto if you're on the fence. It's a shame because especially for the price, the hardware in the Nokia 6.1 could be a nice phone. If the developers who worked on the Marshmallow ROM for the MXP had built the software for the Nokia 6.1 I bet I'd feel differently about it. Marshmallow on the MXP was a wonderfully optimized experience.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Even with nougat I've had a pleasant experience on the MXPE. Shy of battery life, it was a nearly a perfect phone IMO.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
A slightly better chip and a little more RAM and a larger battery and that's my perfect device.

I picked up a Moto e5 Plus free and have been using it for the past two weeks while my Essential Phone PH-1 is taking time off.

I'm actually really liking the Moto e5 Plus. If they would have used a better modem it would have helped tremendously. Nonetheless, it's a lot like having the Moto X Pure but with a big battery. It's about the same speed, same rom, and the screen is unbelievable for 720p.... I can't tell much difference. If they would have put an S835 and it's modern in this thing it would have been an excellent device. But for free I'll use it...
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I've looked at the e5 plus but never jumped on it. I was impressed with it overall considering it is considered a low budget phone at release. Budget phones have come a long way in a few years.

I really don't feel like I need a sd8xx given my usage but think a SD6XX should fit nicely provided the software and drivers are optimized properly for the device.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
For my general usage the s430 does ok, it's really the modem that's the killer and JavaScript handling. The battery life on the 835 would be so much better when downloading files and browsing the web... The Moto E5 Plus eats the battery when downloading large files. And the 835 is a rather old chip at this point. I can't image them saving all that much using an old top of the line vs new mid but obviously it isn't done much.
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
Considering the Mi A2 Lite for when my MXPE dies. I bought one for each of my girls for Christmas. Good enough screen, headphone jack, excellent battery life, good enough performance. Only downsides are the camera (not terrible but to particularly good) and the lack of the MXPE's great speaker set up.

Maybe my MXPE will last until the fall and I can get a newer Android One phone then. Only problem with the phone is the ever decreasing battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
I'm giving up on my MXPE. Battery is completely shot. I'm getting 30-45 minutes screen on time, it often dies before it hits 15%. I bought it used nearly 3 years ago, so it has served me well.

I've ordered a Redmi Note 7 (global edition). I'll miss stock android, but it should do everything I need for a good price.
[X Style (Pure) General] Kenaz Rune:
Resurecting the MXPE

Hi,

I stopped by to see what phones people are discussing as replacements, and I decided to give you my experience. I ended up going for the Pixel2 XL, and love it. I got mine last August and it seems to be a newer build because I've not seen any of the hardware problems described from initial release. Of course, it is ex$pensive, and I had to swallow hard to pull the trigger. I didn't see anything inspiring out there and I'm unwilling to buy Chinese owned product. Plus, I like not having to rely on someone finding an exploit to unlock the bootloader.

I had to move on because not only did the battery die, but the USB port became flaky. Well, a couple months ago, I decided to go to a local phone repair shop to see if I could fix this thing, and it worked. I got a new battery and port. Why? Well, I like to use my older phones for backup and experimentation. Plus, I figure my son can use it when he's ready.

Now, for the part you might find useful (those of you who still use the MXPE). Randomblame is doing an unofficial build of LineageOS for MXPE. I've been on it for a couple of months, and she periodically releases a build that is up to date with the main Lineage code. Plus, she's working on the camera problem. It now functions, though pictures aren't saved. The video works. Check it out at the top of the development forum.

I used this phone to see if I could get MicroG to work on it. With a bit of fiddling, I got NanoDroid running 100%, so I have the FOSS Google Services and Store running. I also run Magisk and EdXposed. For the moment, the GavityBox app doesn't work with this setup, but it did at beta 5. If I didn't already have the Pixel2 XL, this could be my daily driver now (but I'd have to carry a camera). It's fast, overclocked, and when the screen is off it seems to use about 1% battery every few hours. It does still go down relatively quick when I am using it heavily (videos, games I'm testing out for my son, etc.) Did I mention it's PIE?

One key Magisk module I strongly encourage you to use is Advanced Charging Controller. This lets you set parameters such as temperature and min/max charge. It's primary purpose is to minimize wear on the battery and keep heat down. This battery should last me a long time :cool:
[X Style (Pure) General] kerdiaz:
My Battery is dying, and in my country there are signal problems... But i only have budget for a used cellphone and I look for Redmi 5 plus 64gb or Iphone 7 32gb
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Neither is very good

Pretty much the same as the X4, except the design might be a bit better. You will, however, be limited by what service providers you can use the thing with.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Well ATM, I'm sticking with T-Mobile. Because of my job and location, I'm in an area where TMobile is my only option and my work contact is for at least 2 more years in the area. Service providers is not really an issue unless it is a CDMA phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] mikef:
moved on to the Pixel 3 but what to do with the Moto now?

I have moved on to the Pixel 3 at this point. I like it a lot so far, speakers aren't quite as good as the Moto and I miss the curved back a lot. and the gestures, I have to stop waving over the phone now to get the time up, need to double tap on the screen for that.

My Moto battery is still good, I got one of the later manufactured ones so it still holds 85% of max charge. It has started to reboot a lot on me lately though so I got the new phone and have been trying to get the Moto reset back to stock to sell it. Having problems though, I tried a factory reset first and that worked but wouldn't get past the logo with the reboot.

I had flashed those later blur updates so I can't get the stock 7.0 gpt to flash successfully now. The rest flashed fine and it boots okay and goes into the new setup but I can't get into recovery mode. It just shows "No command". If I flash TWRP it works fine but then I get stuck in a bootloop where it can't get through the logo. :/

Trying to figure out what to do next, obviously I can't sell it like this. I know hardly anyone is left here now, but any advice would be appreciated.

Update

I went back and erased the partitions and redid everything in acejavelin's return to stock thread again, finally it booted normally and then was able to retrieve the update for 25.201 and install it, so back up to Oct 2017 now. :) Not sure which one of these updates is next but back up for now.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Fair enough. If Verizon ends up shutting down their CDMA network by the end of the year, as originally scheduled, they'll have singlehandedly eroded most of their network advantage, leaving very little incentive for anyone (who might have been there for service) to stay with them. It might even free me up, depending on how things go.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Well I jumped on the Moto X4 Android one since I got it new for $150. This far the only thing I kinda of miss are the stereo speakers and the volume. I honestly have not missed the larger screen or higher resolution and since I'm not huge on taking pictures, the camera setup is more than adequate. The best part is that Moto actions are still implemented, along with screen notifications, but that is all that is not vanilla. To me this was one of the best parts of Moto devices.

Update: I'm a week into the phone and the battery life is a huge plus. Granted the smaller screen, lower resolution, and more efficient processor help. I'm coming to deal with the sound situation. I actually like the camera. While not quite as good, it does well enough when using manual settings. I'm finding I get better shots with manual settings on the stock camera. I also have felt no need to root. A careful implementation of Blokada, a browser with adblock, and adb permissions to allow Tasker and BBS have met my main conditions that I usually root for.
[X Style (Pure) General] dwa91:
Is there anyone who can speak on their experience with Pixel 3A over an MXP? It looks to be a solid upgrade for this device and development is starting to pick up from what I understand.
[X Style (Pure) General] nocaps:
I recently moved from my beloved MPXE to a Pixel 3 XL and I have to say the difference in speed is quite noticeable and the MPXE seems a bit laggy now. ;) The Pixel 3 is a bit faster than the 3a of course but I think you'll find the 3a a very worthwhile upgrade. The OLED QD display on the P3XL is superior to the MPXE (not immensely because the MPXE was so good, but 3 years of display technology does yield its improvements.) Again the 3a is somewhat lower res than the 3 but I still think you'll be very happy with the display and you have to look very close to see that it's not full QD. Battery life on the P3XL just kills the MPXE (and my MPXE even has a fairly fresh battery.) Bottom line, I loved the MPXE but I haven't once looked back. It had to go someday but I just hadn't been able to find anything that I thought was a cost-effective replacement that matched it in all ways until the Pixel 3, and I'm quite satisfied with the swap. In my case I lost the headphone jack but I had already converted over to Bluetooth everything so it didn't end up being an issue (and the 3a has a headphone jack of course so not an issue there at all.) Lastly we all liked the very light UI wrapper on the MPXE but pure Google is even better, plus great support and updates every month (vs. 'sometimes maybe eventually' updates from Motorola/Lenovo.)

Bottom line, in my experience the Pixel 3 line is a very worthy successor (finally) to the MPXE.

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[X Style (Pure) General] dwa91:
Thanks [MENTION=7409894]nocaps[/MENTION] - I will probably jump on a Pixel 3A sometime later this year for the wife. Looks like development for it has started picking up for the device. Hopefully, even after 3 years of support from Google, the community should be able to continue building releases from AOSP for the device (unless there is large scale abandonment for Fuschia). I think the only thing that may be really missed on the 3A is the dual front facing speakers, but it seems like phones these days compromise in one area or another.
[X Style (Pure) General] Atheros911:
my battery has become so weak after 2.5 years it shuts the phone at 20%

looking to change my beloved MXPE but i can't leave Moto display...its a joy to use.any good alternatives?
[X Style (Pure) General] freeqwerty:
Hello boys and girls. Do you know a serious battery supplier? It is about Bulgaria.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
Do it yourself. Keep your beloved MXPE.

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Moto-X-Pure-Edition-(XT1575)
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Agreed. Even though I have a "replacement" phone, I still find myself using the MXPE quite a bit. For the features it is still hands down one of the best phones I have ever owned value wise.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
The screen is such a battery hog on the MXPE. I was always charging up throughout the day?

What is your other phone?
[X Style (Pure) General] Atheros911:
ehh.i cant buy from ifixit from my country...i'm looking at Mi A3 or Redmi note8 but still cant leave moto display.damn...maybe A3 always on display works similiar at least
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I'm sure there are other sources. I just linked the one I was shopping.
[X Style (Pure) General] Nickolime:
Any new recommendations on a replacement for the MXPE? Been about 7 months since any activity on the thread. Definitely need unlocked bootloader, SD card option, and most likely 5g. I like to keep my electronics as long as I can, so 5G should be future proof for a few years. TIA for any recommendations.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
No luck so far. Unlockable bootloaders seem to be few and far between these days. The Essential Phone is probably the closest thing I've seen to a viable replacement that does meet the criteria, even though it lacks the SD card slot and 5G. Thankfully, it has so much storage that an SD card slot isn't really needed, and "5G" is largely just a gimmick at this point anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you can live with its less-than-stellar sound system and inconsistent radio performance, the PH-1 absolutely hits it out of the park, especially for the price.

Apart from that, there are a small handful of Sony Xperias (namely the XZ2 Compact, although it's a bit on the small side for my liking) that might fit the bill. Heck, go for the XZ2 notCompact (or even Premium) if you don't require service on Verizon Wireless.

Finally, there's the HTC U11 and U12+. They pass the smell test and are Verizon certified, but be aware, you do pay a premium for the 12's superior appearance and the Verizon certification of both machines.

Both the HTCs and the Sonies have SD card slots. I've also tossed around the idea of picking up an LG V20. It may be a year older the other finalists, but is the only criteria-meeting phone that packs an infrared blaster, plus removable battery, and SD card slot on the same device. Sadly, it does not have front-facing speakers, although the one speaker that it does have is said to be reasonably loud, and it has an excellent DAC setup if you use headphones. Bootloader unlocking is not super straightforward on that device, but it is an inexpensive phone (going rate on the used market is ~$90 these days). That, and the fact that the LCD panel is apparently quite prone to temporary image retention, is its only other notable drawback (aside from overall age) as far as I'm concerned. Sure beats the permanent burn-in that you'll get on a phone with an oled screen though :cowboy:.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Yep. That'll keep me away.

As far as stock Android, outside of the Nexus/Pixel, the closest thing here in the US was Moto and the first iteration of the OnePlus powered by CM. OnePlus moved on to Oxygen and Lenovo appears to be deviating away now if they go through with what [MENTION=2001582]acejavelin[/MENTION] linked. As far as unlocked phones not tied to a carrier, the selection in the US has actually grown.

For stock vanilla Android, it looks like the only immediate prospect on the horizon outside of the Pixel will be Nokia. But it is still to early to know what they will do.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Ugh. It is Thinkpad all over again. Lenovo acquires a respected brand and rides name credibility for a while as they run it into the ground.

I should have known better than to buy a phone from a company that does stuff like this and this. I gave Moto the benefit of the doubt on this phone because I thought the Lenovo way probably hadn't permeated into their culture just yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
It's only the Chinese variants that will get Zuks UI
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Oh, got a link for that? I really hope you are correct.

"It's Not yet clear if Phones Sold in China will run on ZUI or All Varaints will run ZUI insetad of Google's stock Android."
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/teleco...uture-motorola-devices-to-run-zuk-zui/162980/
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
So after being on my Moto G 3rd gen for a full week, I am switching back to my MXPE... It wasn't that much better. SOT after a week is only averaging 3.5 hours, the MXPE got 3-3.25... must just be my usage, and the other issue of missing calls seems to have nothing to do with the "band hopping" like I thought. The G doesn't hop bands, but I am still missing calls, maybe more than on the MXPE, I am thinking now this is just something weird in AT&T's network in the St Paul/Eagan Minnesota area. Everything else about the MXPE is superior to the G, screen, performance, features (didn't think I would miss NFC, but I did), and Nougat is rolling out. Plus the G doesn't support Doze, the idle battery use of the G is definitely higher than the MXPE.

Guess I will switch back for a while and put the G back in the drawer as a spare and wait for Nougat and see how it goes. Maybe move to something else later this year.

Thanks for everyone's input!
[X Style (Pure) General] rmaspons:
Moto Z Play.... bought it a couple weeks ago, got from 8 to 9 hours of screen time