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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
From the link...

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Statement from the dev kind of distorts reality. The ability to remap the button was crowed about before Bixby Voice was delayed. Maybe if the dev wasn't so hell bent on his or her 15 minutes of fame the mod would have flown below the radar. Samsung's investing $1B in AI so poking the bear by mutating a feature their mobile AI platform depends on perhaps wasn't the smartest of things to do. I'm probably one of the few looking forward to Bixby and Samsung Connect because I have a houseful of IoT devices and Samsung's solution(s) seem pretty cool compared to what I'm currently using.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] M1LL3R:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] will do the job ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] androidbuff123:
For God's sake guys.. at least give Bixby a shot!.. you can still use google assistant as before by long pressing the home button. Problem with many android folks is they give up too soon and too easily on experiencing the phone the manufacturer intended. Take a lesson or two from the apple camp.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElBeaner:
First thing I'm gonna do is block OTA updates to prevent this update tbh

Until someone figures out how to remap it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] komugi:
I'm pretty sure many people use Android because they didn't want to use Apple's whole "our way or highway" concept of design... Which is what Samsung is doing right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] LordVarian:
That's not the point. The point is that they are shoving it down our throats without giving us a say in the matter.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] androidbuff123:
Really? You want to have "your say" in the "matter"? Are you employed by Samsung? If not, then I would suggesting becoming one if you want to have your say.

Look, I understand the whole Android, open source thing.. but the whole point about the open source is manufacturers are also free to use that source to further their own agenda.. whatever that might be. Bixby SOUNDS very promising based on everything we hear about it so far.. Who knows, it might be a lot better than google assistant and/or drive Google to make their own products better.

Think about Samsung as offering serious competition to Google in terms of the services it is aiming to provide.. and competition is a good thing.

It is incredulous to me because we haven't even scratched the surface of Bixby yet and we already want to remap buttons and complain about it.

There are other phones too you know.. and if Bixby turns out to be a flop, then I'm sure we all will have our say and Samsung will nix it or give us options.

It is completely unfair to expect Samsung to NOT be enthusiastic and committed about a Billion+ dollar investment that they are making on Bixby.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] LordVarian:
I don't work for Samsung but you sure seem to. I don't really understand why you're defending this at all. Like I said you're completely missing the point... Sure bixby might be better than google assistant, but I doubt it. Why do we need another app that does the exact same thing google assistant does? Why don't we have the freedom to bind the button to whatever we want? Competition is only possible when one provides some sort of benefit over the opposing party and I frankly don't see any benefit over using Bixby over google assistant.

Why are you complaining about people wanting to have the freedom to bind the button to whatever they want?

Not everyone is going to instantly bind it to something else.. they'll probably try out Bixby at the start. But what if we've tried it and don't like it? Why can't we have the option to bind the button to something else? You expect Samsung to return the option to bind the button to something else if Bixby fails? Oh you sweet summer child.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] frewys:
Honestly, I do not care if Bixby is a flop or not

Android to me has always been about option

Taking away those options takes away the whole reason to use android

If i liked a locked down phone I just as well could go with iPhone that has a great locked down OS with really amazing memory management, many games and apps build for this platform first then ported to android with various results

So yes. I for one care about my options

Options are good

Say Bixby turns out to be a great piece of software I will use it

Bottom line. Yes. Competition is great but so are options. One does not necessary take away from the other though
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] n-j-f:
This is incredibly annoying to me. I may well use Bixby, but not 20 times a day. I probably won't need to use it more than once a week. I'm not really interested in either Bixby or Google Assistant. So giving it a dedicated button is ridiculous! So it is just going to sit there doing nothing except when I accidentally press it. There are other apps that I am likely to be using far more often and it just makes sense that, if there is to be an extra button, then I should be able to choose what it does.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Syn Ack:
I'd rather have it disabled than having it at all. Am I closed-minded? Sure! But I also don't give a crap and want to stick with Google Now and Assistant to do all of my bidding.

When I get this phone on Wednesday I'm going to block all OTA's and see if it can still be done. If not, I will do my best to disable it in Package Disabler Pro or whatever app is currently working.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ewokuk:
There is always some idiot that comes along defending **** like this, it's why I just try to avoid these things in general, I just can't be bothered trying to argue with dimwits anymore, got better things to do.

Fact is, its a beyond stupid decision, and all it can do is lose Samsung customers. At a time when companies like Huawei and OnePlus are gaining rapidly, that isn't a very clever thing to do. Samsung are fast turning into Apple, forcing crap on people instead of providing it and letting them make their own choices. The difference is with apple what you have left are Apple fanboys, people that think android is too complicated for them, and above all, people that are locked in with things like itunes and dont know how to escape. The difference is nobody is locked in to Samsung so its REALLY dangerous for them to keep pissing people off like this, people can, and will, simply go out and grab another manufacturers android device instead.

As I said, I personally don't have a problem with them using that button for Bixby by default, but DO NOT tell me how to use my own device by preventing me using it how I want (particularly when there is no justifiable reason for doing it).
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jer21:
I'd give it a shot if it were fully developed at launch. Instead they're giving us a feature that is half baked, and won't be working 100% for at least another couple months. How stupid is that?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
Then maybe Samsung's phones aren't for you? They've made no secret about locking their phones down and controlling an alternative ecosystem but yet people who hate those things buy Samsung phones anyway. Who's winng? ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] androidbuff123:
Exactly!.. these dimwits think that their whining and *****ing is all legitimate and somehow Samsung is wrong and doing something really terrible to them.

Samsung is NOT in the business of giving you "options" and keeping things "open".....the simple reason for that is people like you and me (and I'm including myself).. who wants things to be open with options are the VAST MINORITY..... Most people want to press buttons and have a feature available to them.. Most people WANT TO SIMPLY USE THEIR PHONES for their purposes.

We can all pound sand all we want if things aren't exactly the way we want it to be. But in situations like this.. .. a mature brain will understand that the manufacturer had different ideas that doesn't match yours and move on. .. ... or at least have the patience to wait and see how things unfolds.

I would LOVE to change the mapping of the button to whatever I want.. but I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND where Samsung is coming from. Mind you I am an iphone user all around.. and I switch between android and ios for the sake of fun and entertainment.. and nothing else.

I don't even fault the OP for creating the thread because it is passing along news to those who were wanting to remap.. but for crying out loud.. don't buy the damn phone if that is a deal breaker for you.

Samsung is even overtaking apple in terms of number of units it is selling, so I really doubt when you bemoan and curse Samsung that it'll lose customers.

NOT HAPPENING.!.. Unless we have exploding batteries are other serious issues with the phone.. the Galaxy S8 is a runaway hit!

Samsung did not just create a separate "multi function" button. If I were employed at Samsung, I would do exactly what Samsung did... they are SERIOUSLY committed to Bixby.. hence the separate Hardware Button.. Now Mind you, Samsung is not taking away a standard smartphone button that we all can complain about.. it is an additional button.

If Bixby ends up being a complete failure, then I will be one of the guys screaming for Samsung to free up the button and make it multi-functional..

Until then..just understand that YOUR vision for how the phone should be ... does NOT match Samsung's vision..
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] robber:
It is ridiculous they are even attempting Bixby! S voice was much less ambitious and a total disaster.

There is so much value their resources could be delivering in other areas.; Always on display, facial/iris recognition, secure folders and even touchwiz is pretty darn good these days!

A billion dollar effort taking on Google, at one of Google's core competencies and doing it 2+ years late.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rado_vr6:
So people are dimwits because they don't necessarily agree with you on this subject? Unfortunately that doesn't hold up. The average Samsung consumer isn't on XDA or browsing the web trying to figure out how to remap a button, they're taking selfies and sending snaps. Samsung obviously isn't catering to the tinker crowd considering locked bootloaders, KNOX, and other security measures they take on their devices.

YOUR device you say... That's like financing a Bugatti and then complaining when you discover they don't give you the tools to service the vehicle yourself. Samsung created the device, they have a vision of what they feel their devices should do. Same as any manufacturer really. OnePlus just happens to be one of the more "friendly" OEM's that allow you do what you will with "YOUR" device. Their vision is different than Samsung's and vice versa. No company is perfect, but if you think Samsung cares about a handful of people on XDA complaining about a button, then I've got beach front property in Idaho to sell you.

By your reckoning Google is fast turning into Apple as well. Hell, Huawei and Xiaomi load their phones down with ridiculous skins and people still buy them. What about the millions of people that would prefer stock Android on that hardware. Those devices are THEIR own so the manufacturers shouldn't be forcing them to use such horrid interfaces. Right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] robber:
There is a difference between keeping things "open" and forcibly locking something down that only a "VAST MINORITY" of users will take advantage of. No one is expecting them to build a remapping option into the their UI.

To announce last week that Bixby will be crippled at launch, and then to spend resources this week pushing an update out to block doing something else with the button is maddening.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Meanee:
S-Voice came out few months before Google Now. And it was more available. Google Now required Android upgrade, while S-Voice was not depending on that. You could install APK that was ripped out of some Galaxy device that came with it. And in the very beginning, S-Voice held it's own against Google.

However, while Google worked on their voice assistant, Samsung sat with their thumbs up their rears. As a result, S-Voice is same thing we had back in 2012.

Bixby, on paper, is light-years ahead of S-Voice, and on par, or may even exceed Google Assistant capabilities. It creates pseudo-code based on your query almost in realtime. And Samsung sunk a ton of cash into it. This makes me believe that they won't abandon it this fast. But who knows. They may pat themselves on the back and never touch Bixby again. Or maybe it will become SkyNet and overthrow us one day, because it will become so damn smart.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
They actually have a huge leg up on Amazon, Google, Apple, and Microsoft. Samsung sells tens of millions of hard goods, electronics, and mobile devices a year. Starting this year each will be IoT equipped to work with Bixby. Samsung also bought and now owns SmartThings which is the leading hub for controlling the tens of millions of IoT devices Samsung didn't manufacture. In terms of building out an ecosystem who of the five do you think is best positioned to capitalize on a still nascent technology?

Amazon? All they want to do is sell people things. What kind of profit are they going to see from people who buy an Alexa-equipped device one time? In other words, as cool as Alexa is where's the revenue stream for Amazon in keeping it developed alongside big pocketed competitors? It could end up being a money loser like Prime designed to do nothing more than further deepen the relationship with Amazon and the prospective buyers of things. Alexa on Huawei phones has been a disaster according to reviewers.

Apple? Great for the iFans who will buy anything they sell. What about the rest of the world? If Apple TV is an example of a mainstream Apple product's general acceptance they have a long way to go in order to make Siri-based devices attractive to the non-Apple faithful.

Google? They can't even figure out a phone strategy and now they're on to the home. Google Home is an Alexa clone biased toward Android in the way Siri is biased toward iOS. Google Home like every other Google product exists to support their advertising business. Where's the supporting revenue stream in Google Home? The value of Google Home to Google is even creepier than other efforts because it's all about collecting an even deeper portfolio of personal information on users to make them more valuable to advertisers. Ick.

Microsoft? Uhm, I have no idea.​

Samsung has a lousy track record of breaking in to new segments. Buying Viv the creator of Siri and getting all their employees and intellectual capital is a great start. So is having SmartThings in-house. Samsung could own this segment if they don't botch it. Time will tell.

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If someone says "I love the S8 but won't buy it because of its locked bootloader and/or duplicative non-Android s/w" that's a legitimate statement. If someone wants those things and knows they can't have them if they buy a Samsung phone but they buy one anyway what does that make them? To me, it makes them a martyr. If I have to make concessions in my purchase of anything I weigh what I'm giving up first. If I have regrets afterwards about what I gave up I have no one to blame but myself.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] robber:
The revenue stream associated with Alexa is that it is a driver for friction free ordering of Amazon products. Amazon is the largest retailer in the world. Google's phone strategy is not Nexus or Pixel, it is Android. The value of home is better understanding people and their needs in order to support Google's core business which is advertising.

We are going off the rails here. The big issue with Bixby is I would imagine that it is going to rely on using Samsung's apps to become aware of email, calendar, etc. No thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
In my last job I oversaw a eight-figure annual ad spend with Google. I know exactly how they sell their "better understanding of people" and what I was getting for my investment. I don't use Chrome (while signed in anyway), have all Google's apps disabled, and don't use Assistant or Now. Having purchased the monetization of others I prefer not be monetized myself.

That's a big leap and would be a huge failure on Samsung's part. They didn't bias SmartThings to themselves, Tizen, or Android and if they did no third party would go near it with a ten foot pole. SmartThings is integrated with Alexa and I can't imagine that changing. I'm assuming Bixby will be developed as an API driven ecosystem with the benefit to Samsung of creating a natural consumer bias toward Bixby-enabled products of which they'll make and sell tons. If the ecosystem gets big enough third parties will benefit too and be deemed deficient if they don't participate. No one "owns" AI, voice control, and IoT interconnectivity right now because it's still too early in its development.

This isn't a "see if it'll stick" like Milk Music/Video; this is a multi-billion dollar consumer monolith betting on the future. Samsung could f- it up but their in a great position if they get and keep their act together. Bixby Voice being very publically delayed isn't exactly a swimming start though. But people have short memories as the Note7 debacle proves.

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One thing had nothing to do with the other. They would have crippled the hack for the sole purpose of biasing people toward Bixby. If that wasn't there motive they'd have provided a setting to remap the h/w button to an app of choice. They've done that with home screen shortcuts and with the S8 you can now customize the onscreen buttons as well as the behavior of the app tray and icon. Bixby is here to stay.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] anti09:
Frustrating move by Samsung. Especially because this could have been a huge selling point for the s8 - I was pretty excited about an extra remappable hardware button. Lots of possibilities there.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] crazysoccerman:
Why can't we have our say now? You're advocating authoritarianism imo.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jagan2:
Hi everyone! A developer here!

I might have an alternate way to remap the Bixby Button ( of course without root.) But to check on a real device, I need someone who owns/will own a Galaxy S8/S8+ (irrespective of the OTA update.) Let me know if anyone is interested in helping me complete the test for this experimental App. Please PM me. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BarryH_GEG:
It's kind of like all the other Samsung authoritarian practices that preceded it. Knox, Region Lock, and locked bootloaders. Once introduced they stayed even though the root'rs and ROM'rs cried fowl. So now Samsung's decided we'll have a Bixby h/w button. It is what it is and unless someone figures out a way around Samsung removing accessibility (the hack) access it's here to stay. Unless the phone gets rooted but that's an entirely different conversation with an entirely different set of implications.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MishaalRahman:
https://www.xda-developers.com/sams...to-remap-the-bixby-button-on-the-galaxy-s8s8/

Sad!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CISGS:
This is bull****.

Makes sense from their perspective but just poor customer experience. Its bad enough you lock the bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RMXO:
Very disappointed especially since Bixby isn't ready for prime time. While I do understand why they did this, they should of at least waited until Bixby went live or got their **** together from the get go and got Bixby ready for release.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudditz:
If Bixby worked out of the box I would get this but given we (UK) are being told late 2017, this is poor.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nosympathy:
this is BS lol. Damn Samsung...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CptCrackers:
I was really hoping to remap that. Based on the leaked rom I tried on my s7 Bixby is just a half baked google voice knock off which is itself a half baked hot mess in it's current revision.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Camwise:
Haha you still have the other buttons that are standard. This was an Extra button. Long press home still launches google home. Double press home launches Camera. Haha for me it's no big deal.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] preot:
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/04/17/samsung-doesnt-want-remapping-bixby-button-seems/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sanjsrik:
I have a Roku2 with premapped buttons on the remote that came with it. One of the buttons, Rdio which is no longer in business cannot be remapped and the company has made NO attempt to give users any way to remap it. So, out of the FOUR pre-mapped buttons, only THREE work.

It's not surprising. It's annoying but I'm sure it will have a workaround as soon as it's released.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] xgman:
I pressed the stupid button by accident several times at the Best Buy Demo table while just holding the phone. I wish it could just be disabled altogether.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RMXO:
Speaking of which, I'm guessing you looked for an option to turn it off in Settings somewhere and didn't find it? I'm not saying there is an option just curious if you looked for one.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
I just cancelled my preorder. I remember why I gave up on Samsung. Why do they give a $hit what I do with ONE button on my $850 phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sanjsrik:
Maybe someone will figure out a way to remap it. Honestly, having the LGV20, I like the button on the back, for me, I have been much less likely to press it accidentally.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] The Phone Company:
Considering doing likewise.

I don't blindly accept OTA "updates" anyways. Anyone know if the new released stock on Thursday April 20th will already have this update installed or will it be the first thing that pops up when setting up the Phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
SOS! Yep, I cancelled my tmob order last week. Will be watching international varients for Development, unlocked, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Averix:
I thought there was a way to shut Bixby off in the settings. Whether that effects the home swipe or the physical button or both, I don't know. If I can't stand Bixby, then I'll pm -hide the stupid Bixby app and see what happens when I push the button. LOL
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Shuthefrontdoor:
I preordered the s8+ when I saw a post saying you can remapped the button, now I read this crap I'm going to cancel my preorder, WTF Samsung, forcing crap bloat on consumers shame on you
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Woods97:
What an overreaction... you bought it for an extra button basically... the phone has everything you ordered it for before minus a remappable button come on :/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKtRiCzzz:
right like holy cow is an extra button that worth it lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sanjsrik:
I bought it because I thought it would make my breakfast and lunch every day. You mean it won't? Now, that is disappointing.:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Shuthefrontdoor:
What is it to you, I'm expressing my own opinion, I don't like a button I would never use to make the body less streamlined. Not telling you to cancel your preorder. Have a nice day