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[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
The thing is there are two sets of rumors out there... the original one from early May that said it was a SD660, 3800mAh battery, 4GB RAM/64GB Storage, and a handful of gimmicks, water and dust resistant, and Google Fi support.... For $400 I can see that, with a larger battery and more efficient processor that is actually quite solid for the platform it wouldn't be bad, this thing with a 5.2" full HD display would easily push 8+hours of SOT.

The other rumor says that SD660 just isn't available due to Samsung buying up all the SOC's, and the Moto X4 had to get a SD630 and a 3000mAh battery, and that for $400 it would be a 3-4GB RAM and 32Gb storage variant, and the 64GB version would be "higher"... if that is true it is clearly not worth it in my book.

OnePlus 5 is a great device, but hardly without it's issues, and it is known to have a short life span for updates (you don't see ANY 18+ month old OP devices getting updates at all), and I can tell you that I will never own another Samsung again, especially an Edge model... My son is on his 4th S7 Edge, two had hardware defects, and two were broken screens from less than 4' drops in a Incipio DualPro case that did not strike anything on the face of the device (in other words I am saying these are quite prone to breaking easily), and his current one has a hairline crack too, but he doesn't want to pay the deductible again to get it replaced for a while. It's your money though, do with it what you will...
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Has anyone switched to/ used the oneplus 3T, I'm thinking about getting it. Which one's rear camera is better? Any other places than stereo speakers where Moto X style is better than the Oneplus 3t?
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
I've used the OP3T for a bit. It's an overall great device & the camera is an improvement over the Pure. I decided to return it cause I just couldn't get used to the large bezels & missing the front speakers. That's just me being nitpicky, though.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
i have the solution you are looking for but it wont be annouced for another week and a half. the nokia 8... check this out

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_8-8522.php
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
You're saying large bezels compared to Moto X Style or when compared to newer phones with slimmer bezels.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
Compared to the MXP & other phones.

But truthfully it's not a deal breaker. I highly recommend the OP3T if front facing speakers isn't a feature you need.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
for me... the next replacement is going to be either nokia 8 or essential phone, i also could wait to see if leaks turn out nice for samsung s9 since i still love my pure [black leather red accent and 64 gigs :) ]

it all depends on specs and for me it has to be

something tough

good battery life

good display

good camera

and good sound.

right now im really looking into that nokia since it has the carl zeiss camera, nokia quality and dolby atmos so far from what i learned from gsm.

pixel 2 is nice but id have to see the reviews first but it has to work for sprint otherwise a big no :) SERO plan :)
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Yep... Nokia is definitely looking promising. If the Nokia 8 specs are correct and they make it compatible across all US carriers, it is basically the best replacement upgrade for those who love the features of the Style/Pure (UHD, stereo speakers, expandable storage, near vanilla Android). Unfortunately it comes with a price tag I'm not willing to pay (500 Euros means $600+).

If Nokia can push a mid-range with a SD6XX with a price tag around $350-$400 with good specs keeping true to the Style/Pure specs design (I would be ok with some downgrades such as 1080p), they might win me over. Of course this means keeping good on their promise of timely updates and upgrades as well good customer service. Hopefully they will also keep the dev community in mind and support it with unlockable bootloader and provide the necessary files to revert to stock. If they do this they are a sure win for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
I'm going to have to go with the z2 play, can't live without my moto assist features, bollocks to the updates, every phone I've had has been left high and dry.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
My problem with the Nokia 8, and other Nokia devices, is they don't have the proper LTE band support in the US... the preliminary (leaked?) specs show LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) which means it won't work on Verizon, AT&T, or T-Mobile's network in the US.

Hopefully they make a US variant, if it comes in at that ~$350 price point, it would be a great option. Although leaks are point to a price of about 500 EUR, which would put it closer to $575-$600 USD or $450 British Pounds.
[X Style (Pure) General] NeWCuLTKiNG:
I know the Moto Z Droid line isn't able to unlock bootloader, but it is a great option that you can get for decent price on swappa. My main and only bother on the pure is battery life is awful. I was leaning toward a Droid turbo 2 as my wife still uses turbo 1 and still gets 6+ screen time. My Moto Z Force Droid I got on swappa for 209 gets around 5hrs screen time. I have always like Moto adds to stock just wish the pure had better battery and I would never of left it to my son
[X Style (Pure) General] Hemidrosis:
I just ordered the 1st Gen Moto Z Play. It's $100 off (from $449) on Amazon as of this post
[X Style (Pure) General] caferacer73:
I gave up and got a used S7 Edge for a great deal on swappa.com Already has 7.0 on it and the June security update just came out for it. Tired of waiting for the update that was promised 4 months ago...
[X Style (Pure) General] sc4s2cg:
I don't know much about CPUs (beyond that SD 835 is the latest, 821/820 are one gen before), but how far along is the Exynos 8890 Octa? Is it on par with the 835 or more the 821?
[X Style (Pure) General] helicopter201:
All I want as a replacement for the xt1575;

beautiful Nexus 6P body (preferably without the Droid X-esque camera hump but whatever,)

ONE model only with band support for all major carriers,

64gb base model,

4+GB ram,

SnaDra 821 or better,

1080P latest gen AMOLED,

basic but high quality 12ishMP camera good in low light with OIS & 1080p60fps,

High SnR & clear dB output,

best antennas you can wrap around the thing,

the two years support the 6P has received so far, unlock(ed)(able) bootloader,

BONE stock blank canvas Android,

REMOVABLE & factory available 3450mah battery,

3.5mm jack,

& SD card slot.

All of these features don't need to be invented, just implemented.

Don't innovate crap, just recreate excellence.
[X Style (Pure) General] xantanion:
Sounds like a great high end price point flagship. But everyone is moving away from removable batteries it seems.
[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
Seems like you need a v20 or a v 30
[X Style (Pure) General] D.Spirit:
Best replacement is the essential.

RAW Android (I think) + Flagship + full GSM and CDMA compatibility support

Network / Bands

UMTS/HSPA+: 1, 2, 4, 5 6, 8

GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz

CDMA EV-DO Rev. A: 0, 1, 10

FDD-LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66

TDD-LTE: 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43

TD-SCDMA: 34, 39
[X Style (Pure) General] helicopter201:
From the leaked images of the v30 so far, the removable battery button appears to be gone; so unless they have a fingernail or paperclip removal process, looks like the v20 is the only option.

Still no forward firing stereo speakers with either though; a shame because the v30 is visual phone porn perfection...
[X Style (Pure) General] matt1313:
Need some advice...

I have had my style since the release, I really enjoy it but it's getting annoying with battery life, charging issues, and now blue tint on the screen.

I can either get Moto to repair 175$ ish

Or

Get a new pixel XL.

I'm struggling to decide. Is the pixel.worth it with the Pixel 2 around the corner ? Is the Pixel 2 going.to be worth it?

Thanks
[X Style (Pure) General] imail724:
Just ordered myself a G6 while Best Buy is selling them for $12/month for 24 months. So long Moto, it's been fun!
[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
I got a G6 so far it's really nice just afraid of dropping it!! I got 5hrs 48 minutes sot in a 18hr day on it today so I'm impressed
[X Style (Pure) General] 2be3_80:
Im considering G6, how is camera doing compared with Pure/Style
[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
Camera is on another level more control more options low light is better too. Performance is of course quicker thanks to the processor. I've had it tree days now
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Got myself a Oneplus 5 :)
[X Style (Pure) General] 2be3_80:
I would be nice if you share your thoughts after 2-3 weeks of usage.

Thanks
[X Style (Pure) General] lucianogm:
After 1 year and 8 months, I'm finally changing the Pure for a Redmi Note 4 (sd625, 4/64). I'm sick of the awful battery, including screen and sound problems too. I'll take the risk and try out something new to me :)
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
We bought this exact phone Redmi Note 4 (sd625, 4/64) two weeks ago, and I'm considering to buy one for my self.

It looks good, especially in dark gray.

Speaker is located in the bottom, which is annoying, because it can be blocked by your hand when holding the phone horizontally.

GPS apps like Waze needs to be setupped in the battery consumption manager to not be restricted by it, in order for the app to work properly and have constant GPS reception.

Battery is big, 4100 mAh, but there is no fast recharge.

It has capacitive buttons which I really don't like, instead of the onscreen ones of the pure.

In spite the above, I think it's a good device.

It got Noaget two days after staring to use the phone.

My Pure was in the lab already for replacing the charging port, and again it's flimsy after two weeks.

Battery life is already really bad.

looks like it's time to move on.
[X Style (Pure) General] speedingcheetah:
Google Pixel XL. Super smooth and fast phone. Best camera I have ever had. With the recent price cuts due to the 2nd gen soon to come very good deal.

Only thing that i miss....the dual front facing speakers....I have yet to find a better sounding phone than the Moto X Pure.
[X Style (Pure) General] alershka:
I went HTC 10 factory unlocked when they were on sale in the spring. They include a 1 year warranty for water or screen damage. Right now they are $399.

I paid $25 for Sunshine unlock then flashed a Verizon RUU so I could get VoLTE and wifi calling to work.

The screen is not as big as the Pure but otherwise the phone was a nice upgrade.
[X Style (Pure) General] lucianogm:
Is the Redmi right now on official Nougat?

I really don't mind losing fast charging, since my turbopower charger broke and never replaced it :p

What's your opinion of the device overall? Is it a good replacement for the Pure for another 2-ish years?
[X Style (Pure) General] mikelebz:
Ordered a oneplus 5 with the 10% off student program (have access to a student edu address).... Told myself that I would never order a oneplus again due to my (and many many others' experience) but we shall see... As long as the phone is fully functional out of the box, I'll be happy. (you can see where I set the bar for this company)
[X Style (Pure) General] MADDAN18:
Going to miss the Pure, got the LG V20 US996 all carrier unlocked today. Absolutely love it!

$349 B&H photo - no tax free shipping (outside NY)
[X Style (Pure) General] SR3TLAW:
Nice find! Do you plan in rooting?
[X Style (Pure) General] MADDAN18:
I simply do not know. It's simple to unlock the bootloader via the LG website, but with Oreo coming in the next few months, i think I'll wait.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Well, to be honest... I stayed Moto and just finished setting up a new G5 Plus.

Couldn't stand the battery life of the X Pure anymore and the price was right at $239 at Best Buy on sale, plus I had a 10% coupon and a few Rewards certificates so I got it for right around $200. So far no regrets.
[X Style (Pure) General] 2be3_80:
Please share your thoughts about camera when have an occasion to take some pictures
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Once I use it a bit, I will... So far it is decent enough.

Here is a quick shot of my car after a wash. Anything in particular you want me try?
[X Style (Pure) General] 2be3_80:
Just compare to Pure, I just want to know what you think about it without pictures. Thanks
[X Style (Pure) General] ramirez3805:
That's funny, I also bought the v20 this week, that was my replacement as well. Got it for 270 for sprint brand new. Wanted the unlocked one but what the heck, have a free year of sprint service anyway.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Honestly, for the pictures I've taken so far I can't see any noticeable difference between the camera in the X Pure and the G5 Plus. I know technically the Pure has a better camera, but looking at pictures from both even on a 28" monitor there's no visible difference.

That said, the camera on the G5 is noticeably faster, especially starting up or using the double twist to start feature.

And as for the double twist feature, I haven't had any false starts of the camera like I due frequently with the X Pure. I would often lightly toss the phone on the bed or desk only to find out later when I pick it up that the camera has been active the whole time, haven't seen that issue the G5 yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
accidental camera?!

That's quite amazing if it is true. "Midrange" phones are usually miles behind their flagship brethren in terms of camera quality.

It's interesting that you mention this because the camera pivot is the one and only gesture that I haven't managed to accidentally activate on my Pure Edition. The voice feature would trigger itself all the time (so much so that I turned it off because it was never that useful to me anyway) and the flashlight would power itself up while mowing the lawn, but I never inadvertently started the camera.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
But at the same time, today's "mid-range" phones are often as good as, or better than, a couple year old flagship... And the term "flagship" tied to the Moto X Pure is questionable even when it was new.

I can tell you the quality is visually similar, although I have not zoomed down to the pixel level to compare quality for what I use the camera for I see no significant difference. It is definitely faster in both first shot and focus times using the Moto Camera app but I have not tried any other camera app (forum uses have noted significantly downgraded camera performance using alternative camera apps).

As for the accidental camera, this happened to me at least 2-3 times per week, and the worst part is when the camera activates the screen goes full brightness which as we know will drain the battery like fruit in a juicer on the MXPE.

Even if the camera is of marginally lower quality, the trade off for battery life is worth it... Right now GSAM is estimating 8h 11m screen on time and my doze time is significantly higher with essentially identical app installed. Estimated battery life is 2d 3h. It is almost 10am here, and with 3 hours off charger and just shy of 25m SOT so far I am at 95% battery, the MXPE is usually near 80% by now (cellular signal strength in the building I work in is very bad).

Getting used to the 1/2" smaller screen was pretty easy, although I am still adjusting to the smaller keyboard, but the device is slightly smaller, and noticeably thinner and lighter. Granted the screen is not as nice as the MXPE, few phones as nice a display, but it is very clear and bright and easily viewable even in direct sunlight.

I have not had any issues with some of the general complaints seen with the device, like low call volume or poor WiFi reception that seem to be common issues people have in the Moto G5 Plus forums, these have been very comparable to the MXPE.

One thing that is clearly missing is the front firing speakers, the speaker quality and volume is definitely lower.
[X Style (Pure) General] swatty43:
I am undecided on what phone I want to get next, which never happens, I always have some idea of what I want. I definitely want a phone with better battery life than the Pure, but I also want a phone that is going to have a lot of development for it.

Does that mean I am stuck going with the Pixel XL 2 when it arrives? I really don't like the idea of loosing expandable storage, however faster updates and continued development may out weight that.

The LG V30 seems intriguing but I don't know how popular it will be for development.

I am not too worried on price, hopefully can get a couple more months out of my Pure, but it is slowly starting to go.

Anyone have any suggestions?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
All depends on price range and carrier... If you don't need Verizon and have the cash, consider the OnePlus 5.
[X Style (Pure) General] swatty43:
I have AT&T, price isn't that big of an issue, I am willing to pay for the best fit for me.

I forgot about the OnePlus 5! Have you heard if they are going to release a OnePlus 5T in the next few months like they did with the 3T?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Haven't heard anything about that... I think the T model came out because they couldn't get the SoC, or some component, anymore, it was kind of a fluke. I see no reason to hesitate on the OP5.
[X Style (Pure) General] swatty43:
Did you go with the G5 Plus and not the OnePlus 5 because of cost?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Partially... I could have afforded the OP5 but I don't see the benefit of paying $300 more for how I use my phone, the cost/benefit difference didn't make any sense to me.
[X Style (Pure) General] swatty43:
Gotcha, thank you for the advice!
[X Style (Pure) General] abdielmaiden:
Guys, I'm tempted in buying a Xiaomi Mi 5x which is less than 300 USD from China, it has 4GB RAM and 5.5" screen, Snapdragon 625, Dual Lens camera and 3080mAh, do you have any comments about this phone?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
For what market? Biggest problem with Chinese phones is network compatibility... We got a cheap one once and it would only connect at 2G, which was OK until AT&T turned it off last year. Got nothing but a media player now.
[X Style (Pure) General] abdielmaiden:
Just did the check and it doesn't work with my carrier 4G LTE, but there's a similar version, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X with almost the same specs, camera is not that good but it has 4k mAh, also it works with my mexican carrier and price is 202 USD!
[X Style (Pure) General] gokart2:
I'm leaning towards the LG V30 US998 (unlocked) or the Pixel 2 XL.

LG has everything I want minus Google Fi or the "squeeze" to launch app, being the chop-chop flashlight has been a huge bonus to me on the Pure.

Pixel 2 XL has the above two missing things I'd like, plus vanilla Android and fast updates.

Want the LG for the DAC/music, being an audiophile. But I'm hoping the Pixel might include some sound enhancements or the DAC, being it's supposedly based off the V30? If the unlocked V30 ends up being Fi compatible, I'm sold.

We'll see, will make the choice next month-ish. If the boss/wife allows it.
[X Style (Pure) General] sk8223:
Heyyy fellow Moto Xers... I'm back. D:

Not because I wanted to, but because I have to. After getting extremely frustrated with the Zenfone 3 I bought due to a) the screen flickering (probably a hardware issue) and b) the horrible, terrible, nasty sound produced by the ZF3's headphone jack (Canadian variant is stuck with 0.3v! Yuck!), I just had to sell it on whim. Ended up selling it for $10 more than I bought it.

Really glad to come back to stock Android after the horribleness that is Zen UI. I will never, ever go back to ASUS (unless I get a phone with good specs for $100 from 'em). Kind of miss the ZF3's camera because damn, the IMX298 is pretty nice. But the Moto's is too, it just struggles to focus more. Moto also has better Wi-Fi connectivity. My 5ghz router's in the basement now, and I'm upstairs. With the ZF3 I got a poor connection (35 mbps) in my room. Moto? 260mbps sitting on my bed. Hello Moto! :D Not to mention the super nice build quality on the Moto. I almost want to get the G5+. Almost.

I'm NOT happy to be coming back to the slow as sh*t 808, though. So much lag. The Nougat update's okay but I'm kind of confused as to why we can't uninstall the Google app. At least ASUS lets you do that. But I'll live with it. Thank god the Moto X Style has a good DAC. No more crying myself to sleep at night because my music sounds bad. :)

So now I'm in the market for another phone once again. I do not want to go back to iOS. The ZF3's excellent hardware (the 625 is amazing!) convinced me to stick with Android, but I need to make a good choice this time. I desperately want the stock Android Xiaomi Mi A1 but I'll have to import the HK version with 1700. Who else is looking at the Mi A1?
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
I'm also waiting for the Xiaomi Mi A1. I'm also considering the Samsung S8 plus, but we'll see.
[X Style (Pure) General] anth0nymDROID:
My pure died, camera became a dud as I bought it refurbished. It's camera was really good not the best at night. It performed well during its use occasionally getting warm. I got a G6 it's a significant upgrade imo missing twist to wake camera though.
[X Style (Pure) General] sk8223:
Wow, those are two quite different choices. I just want a cheap phone with good specs and hope the Mi A1 can give that to me. The Mi A1 (global variant?) is on sale at Gearbest right now for $209 USD with a coupon. That's around $300 CAD so I'm going to wait for the price to lower a bit. Maybe by December? I really want a stock Android phone. No OEM skins for me.

It's either that or I'll be forced to buy Moto again. Moto X4 (bound to be overpriced), Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus. But North America marks the last two up SO MUCH. A phone worth $230 gets sold for $379 here in Canada. I hate it. Makes me wanna jump on the next iPhone SE... at least I get AppleCare :mad:

If anything, the screen on this Moto X is fantastic. Tiny bezels. Looks great from every angle. Too bad I'm in fear that the screen is going to die on me every day. Hah. The SD808 makes it so hot.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I don't see much new that tempts me to buy.

I was thinking about a Moto G5 Plus, but didn't seem like enough of an improvement.

I got a Nexus 6P from swappa and it was ok, but I sure missed my Moto Actions and custom wakeup word.

I'm keeping the 6P, but I'm DDing my Moto X Pure Edition again, because it's awesome sauce.

I'd love to try a One Plus 3T or 5T, but no Verizon hands.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I went G5+... Very happy so far. Is it an improvement? Not really, but it isn't a noticeable loss either, except the screen size, but you gain it back in battery life. I can go all day (7am to 11pm) with 4 hours screen on time and still have 50% battery left when I plug it in at night, I have literally hit 7.5 hours and still made it all day without charging or going into battery saver mode.

And this is with everything on and enabled... OK Google all the time, location tracking, Google Assistant, Bluetooth on all the time, push syncing 2 Exchange account, multiple social networking apps, etc. The MXPE couldn't do that without charging at least once a day, sometimes twice, and seriously watching what was enabled and turning off unused services and I was often in battery saver mode by bed time.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
[MENTION=2001582]acejavelin[/MENTION] I could maybe live without battery bar....maybe, but having to say 'OK GOOGLE' life everyone else, irks me. One person says 'ok google' and six devices, in the room, wakeup. I hate it.

I'm really hoping that since the Moto X4 will come with Alexa as opposed to Google assistant, that the wakeup word will be customizable.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
And then there is that Android One version... If it's real. True monthly updates would be nice.