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[Nexus 5X General] rony raj:
hi guys

every device now have more ram now

without ram loss

only thing is requirement

a swap supported kernel

and inti.d support

and last one is auto swap

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69708181
[Nexus 5X General] Guapo613:
Chocolate cake = World peace

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Kernel = Un-popped popcorn
[Nexus 5X General] droidbot1337:
this sounds far too good to be true but if it is..... i so want to do this! it would be far better if pre modded mother boards were available. i would buy one immediately! if anyone knows any shop owners in china, maybe they should suggest this. i would love a 128Gb honor 8.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Another picture I found from a Hong Kong forum.

This guys did the same thing
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Your are correct, this is what the guy told me.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Shxxxt got 5x private messages now......
[Nexus 5X General] iwanova:
Hi OP?

Have you try some custom kernel? Is RAM amount still 3,6 GB or incrased into 3,8 if you using custom kernel?

I'm really curious lol
[Nexus 5X General] UniqueStarMe:
Well How Can I Contact That ShopKeeper

Just give me his contact details... I also wanna upgrade my ****ty 2GB RAM phone to 4GB...
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
All stock
[Nexus 5X General] jerryhou85:
I suppose a shop from HuaQiangBei(华强北) can do the trick?
[Nexus 5X General] crayonhead:
Do you mind PM'ing me this person's wechat?

I have a couple phones I'm looking to possibly mod and if he's able to, it would be very interesting.
[Nexus 5X General] kat0072:
[MENTION=4825246]Cathair2906[/MENTION], We need wechat id? Please share the details. Thanks
[Nexus 5X General] mikeprius:
I guess Donald Trump is right, the Chinese are much smarter. The bootloop issue has been going on for months and the Americans and Koreans seem to be assbackwards on how to fix it and in swoops the Chinese, fixes it, and upgrades the RAM.
[Nexus 5X General] oooitzalex:
I would also like to get his contact information so I can see if I can bring back my other NEXUS 5X back to life due to bootloop and out of warranty :(

I would really appreciate if you could PM me back with this person's WeChat. I'm sure your PM's are flooded now that your story is on almost every Android blog and tech blog.

I'm sure he'd appreciate the extra customers too as I'm sure a lot of people will want to try this mod with their bootloop 5x phones out of warranty! :D we'd all be much appreciated :angel::D
[Nexus 5X General] 妹妹你好胸:
4GB+128GB
[Nexus 5X General] billyliem:
Wow

Wow 128 gigs and 4 gigs of ram??? Is that your cell phone?
[Nexus 5X General] Cybertron™:
hey can you tell me my nexus 5x in hardware bootloop any suggestion to fix this prob ?
[Nexus 5X General] 妹妹你好胸:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5022041319?share=9105&fr=share
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Ok unsubscribing from this thread. Will checkout weekly maybe there is something useful.

So far is full of bull**** and pure rumours.

I mean...even if it is true...if you don't live in China this is useless.

I can't imaging myself sending a logic board to China to a random technician...and waiting like 6 months to getting it back....that could require months and is still risky. And after all the waiting who knows if it works and for how long....

The main cost here is the time and the incertitude. (Again. If this is true).

That's why the only solution would be a vendor selling working logic boards with the mod and 1 week shipping.

Probably in 6 months you start seeing used Pixels for 400€ or less.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] paul222008:
4GB RAM + 128GB ROM of 5X is a dream come true!!! :eek: just wow
[Nexus 5X General] wing_addict_usa:
One of you Chinese need to setup a site and make some money being a middle man.
[Nexus 5X General] OzzyThorne:
Where did you send it to? I'm in Wuhan.
[Nexus 5X General] hanibioud:
Where did you send it? Can you give us Adresse!:good:
[Nexus 5X General] :
Guy we speak about you in the belgian/ french news. ?

http://www.phonandroid.com/nexus-5x-4-go-ram.html
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
i will reply all you guys pm tonight. if you are not live in China, I don't really suggest you to do it. As you are taking risk to send your phone overseas to do that, doesn't worth for it.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Totally true.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
That's why I'm not suggesting you guys to do that if living out of China.
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
So if I'm not unlocking my bootloader. It should be safe to upgrade the ROM size too? So perhaps a 4GB + 128GB is really possible if no unlock bootloader.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
That should be fine, I don't think there is a different between lock and locked bootloader
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
Exciting times ahead.

Gonna get my China colleague to assist me.

Awaiting your PM reply later.

Thanks so much.
[Nexus 5X General] zurik:
Can you give to us the contacts who we can do we upgrade the ram?
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
Cooling mod has been shown. The 64GB is possible but will need work in repartitioning. 4GB RAM can be easily upgraded without issues if the voltage is the same. RAM is something your device use but can only measure size in the OS the bootloader of even bios doesn't ever check "which ram" (obviously you can do it in Windows though) but for example if you look in "device manager" of Windows you never find your ram as it so easily changeable and uses a universal driver.

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Nope. If you check the Nexus 5 thread, it doesn't work like that. You'll need to repartition the device (change the partition table) to make sure it raises m recognises the rest.
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
Could you link that thread please? Tks
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-5-hardware-modded-to-64gb-internal-storage-by-replacing-emmc/
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
PM me too please
[Nexus 5X General] Siljorfag:
Yes it's not worth, but if snapdragon chips were available with upgraded ram on the internet, that it would be easier and safer do it by Yourself at home. Take out old chip and put new one. I saw lot of videos on YT with iphones (icloud unlock, memory upgrade). For me changing chip in phone is easy so only thing needed is source/shop which sell these parts.
[Nexus 5X General] Jewius:
Hi everyone. I wonder if it real to buy RAM chip via Internet. Maybe there are some sellers on aliexpress who can provide such part.
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
Right now i started wondering, what is the actual failing part? cpu itself, or just a connection to pcb or ram or what?
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
I think it's the Samsung RAM chip. That's the thing I was heating to turn on the phone.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] zurik:
Samsung K3QF3F30BM-QGCF
[Nexus 5X General] InterrtuptoR:
Chinese fixed the bootloop? How? Any links? Ty!
[Nexus 5X General] gcladores:
Can i have his wechat contact? I'm really curious about this.
[Nexus 5X General] fardin 51:
can you please provide contact information of this repair shop ??
[Nexus 5X General] kvarga:
How does multitasking work on the 4GB phone?
[Nexus 5X General] mikeprius:
Read what the OP wrote. At least someone has made a fix to the issue and it certainly didn't come from LG. I have to wonder,......Is LG so stupid they don't know how to fix their own products, or they are taking the "Ford Pinto" approach where the calculate financially the repercussions of "doing the right thing" vs. just taking a risk and screwing over the consumer ? It's one or the other.
[Nexus 5X General] guoluan:
The Address is

华吉智能手机维修中心 地址：深圳市福田区华强北远望数码城一楼1065
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
Do you have a wechat number?
[Nexus 5X General] zurik:
Huaxi smart phone repair center Address: Futian District, Shenzhen Huaqiang North Yuanwang Digital City on the first floor of 1065
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
[MENTION=4825246]Cathair2906[/MENTION]

Eagerly awaiting more details from you.

Thanks
[Nexus 5X General] kobezhu:
It is common in China.

F**K LG ! The quality is too low , I used to have the same problem and I paid RMB 480。

[IMG="picture"]https://xdaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=14110&pictureid=55417[/IMG]

I'm not very sure on how to overlay a picture onto a text？
[Nexus 5X General] :
Guy your history is making the tour of the world !

Can repairers combat the obsolescence of mobiles is the question that everybody is asking...

http://www.lesmobiles.com/actualite...lutter-contre-l-obsolescence-des-mobiles.html
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Guys, thanks for posting the address, this is the shop i suggest to stick with.

His WeChat ID is HUijhuang

btw, i'm tired to reply many PM from all of you :(
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
Since i posted this post, i learnt something about the CPU from 5x, and how can it be upgraded, let me explain to you guys first. :highfive:

The packaging technique of 5x is using PoP, or package on package, which the processor package has pads on the top for the RAM chip and BGA on the bottom to attach to the PCB, its saves board space at the expense of assembly cost. This simply means the RAM sits on top of the SoC.

http://www.androidauthority.com/how-it-works-systems-on-a-chip-soc-93587/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_on_package

As fixing this bootloop issue, you have to remove the whole SoC+RAM block, why not upgrade the RAM chip together? :cool:
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
I was thinking TSMC cause the problem, as some of the Taiwanese pointed out some of the 810 chips from TSMC would cause Nexus 6P a bootloop problem as well, i sent my fd's his 6P to china fixing the bootloop problem, as it comes with 4GB originally, not necessary do any upgrade this time :D
[Nexus 5X General] chow018@gmail.com:
hey, i'm very happy to hear you guy had your nexus 5x fixed and brought it to a new life.

i just wonder where did you had the phone fixed and where the address the place was.

as i have a same nexus as you are, and it suffered a same problem,

i am live very near shenzhen, if you could tell me the address, i could also send my nexus to have a fix.

thx, best wish.

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hello, i am a chinese fan of nexus, i had a nexus 5x that suffered bootloop, i want to fix it , can you send me the contact? i can add his wechat. thx.
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
华吉智能手机维修中心 地址：深圳市福田区华强北远望数码城一楼1065

WeChat ID: HUijhuang
[Nexus 5X General] BrushXue:
Do they have a webstore on Taobao? I can send my phone to have it upgraded when I come back to Beijing this summer.

My phone is a H791 (European edition). Is there any possibility to activate or unlock B39 for China Mobile and CDMA for Sprint?
[Nexus 5X General] CatMe0w:
Where did you send your phone to? I'm in the city which you have fixed your phone probably and I decide to upgrade my Nexus 5X. Thanks.
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
The contact details are already indicated 2 post up from yours.
[Nexus 5X General] 928randy:
I'd like to do this

If anyone finds where to do this please, email me.
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
I found this, and it's really helpful. Look at the ball layout.
[Nexus 5X General] nydmt:
Been doing tons of reading over the past few days on soldering... lol

I'm hoping I can become knowledgeable enough to attempt to replace the CPU and RAM of my 5X with the CPU and RAM of a V10. Anyone have any ideas/thoughts/tips on this? Read that it is difficult to work with BGA components and a heat gun, but I have seen it done.
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
Give it to somebody that already have the knowledge, soldering bga is kind of ****ty thing and i don't recommend doing this DIY method.
[Nexus 5X General] andrep182:
Words of wisdom , attempting to replace BGA with just a heat gun is a nightmare, especially if you haven't done much of soldering before. Don't do it, and you're hearing this from someone who has a good amount of soldering experience. The likelihood of you messing up is just far exceed your success rate
[Nexus 5X General] crazyates:
Just FYI, you have the wrong module highlighted.

You have the K3QF3F30BM-BGCF hightlighted, but the 5X uses the K3QF3F30BM-QGCF. They appear to use the same BGA layout, but the sizes are slightly different?

Edit: It looks like that screenshot came out of the 2016 Samsung Product Selection Guide (page 9). They have the 2017 version, but I dont see any compatible chips?
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
guys, sorry i sent a wrong WeChat id to you guys, the correct one is HUijhuang
[Nexus 5X General] nar001:
Thank you for answering everybody, it probably isn't easy with everyone who wants a way to upgrade their phone and all.
[Nexus 5X General] OhioYJ:
The problem with that is there is basically is still no custom ROMs for the Pixel. There are a couple, but for example, there is no Lineage. So for me, the Pixel is not an option.
[Nexus 5X General] citswyq:
It did not exist when I was trying to search on wechat.
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
Yeah i know, it's just i was looking for group of this chip not that particular one, so the wrong one is highlighted.

Anyway it gives us viable option to replace ram
[Nexus 5X General] elektronchika:
4GB chip that is suitable is K3QF4F40BM-FGCF.
[Nexus 5X General] nydmt:
There's a electronic repair shop a few blocks from my work. On Yelp, it says they have soldering equipment. At lunch, i'm going to go over there and see if I can get a quote for this procedure.
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
So we are getting somewhere with our ideas, but i have a problem (sry for offtop). I've been following the topic, but now i'm not sure if my phone has a bootloop or it's another problem. It's like when battery is charged to 100% (3.8V) phone does nothing, and only discharge the battery, and when it's empty i blinks red diode, that's bootloop, right?
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
blinks red diode means battery level is too low,

bootloop is it stuck at GOOGLE Logo when it boots up
[Nexus 5X General] SoarStarlight:
User not found, i think u might typo again o(╯□╰)o I guess it might be HUjihuang cos "HU" is a common family name in China

So, it is good for you to click avatar in wechat then screenshots his personal intro and uploads it

By the way, your experience is known back to China, links: http://weibo.com/2667922521/EF5ASmmGJ :laugh:

And to other guys, if u r living in Shenzhen or ..some places closed to there like HK or GZ and need map location then here u r:

Baidu map: http://j.map.baidu.com/1KUfj

Google: https://goo.gl/maps/oNsymnifJ2C2 (As everyone known, you need VPN here:crying:)

And for people who want their online shop.... at least I don't find them in TB
[Nexus 5X General] nydmt:
Alright so I went to go see what's up... They told me they would charge anywhere between $100-120 to replace the processor+RAM of my 5X with the processor+RAM of the LG V10. They also said the processor would have to be reprogrammed (not sure about this?). They would do it using a heat gun and not an oven. The price and the fact they're using a heat gun make me want to attempt this project by myself. I guess I'll try to see if there are any lower quotes I can get.
[Nexus 5X General] crazyates:
Cept that's a 256 FPGA chip, and the one that's currently in our phones is a 216 FPGA chip. It's my impression that different sized chips with different pin layouts were incompatible.
[Nexus 5X General] D'Menace:
Bro.... I can't find the wechat id.... Is his id still active?

His wechat id not found... Is the spelling correct?
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
yep, still the same ID :eek:
[Nexus 5X General] elektronchika:
Yes, you are wright! There is another Samsung chip that seems compatible, but it's 3GB - K3QF6F60AM-QGCF
[Nexus 5X General] caifaz:
FYI Nexus 5x comes with 2GB of RAM, not 3GB, but it is cool to see some mods are possible!
[Nexus 5X General] ashirviskas:
And he never stated otherwise.
[Nexus 5X General] marshy73:
I tried to search for wechat ID of HUijhuang.

Cannot find.
[Nexus 5X General] whiteboi-hakz:
Yea me to can't find him could it be we are in different countries why we can't find his I'd?
[Nexus 5X General] citswyq:
I'm in China and I can't find it either.
[Nexus 5X General] Ashoaib:
It is possible to upgrade the whole Soc in Nexus 5x?? I mean why not put sd820 with 4gb ram?
[Nexus 5X General] :
no, it's almost impossible as it would require new software drivers or anything of sort.
[Nexus 5X General] brian13th:
Actually that's kind of what Google tried to do with project Ara, with modular mobile phones. But I think Google discontinue it...
[Nexus 5X General] :
Yes because it's really near-to-impossible as you need to have dynamic drivers I think unlike on Windows PCs where you can swap PC parts but with the installation of its drivers after booting :) Maybe in the future it will be possible but not today :D
[Nexus 5X General] Nicktheprofessor:
Actually you could just include the drivers with the kernel as modules or built in and have eventual other parts of the drivers downloaded when appropriate.

It would boot and load the appropriate modules for your new stuff while eventual drivers for hardware like new cameras could be downloaded after first boot.

If you are running the Linux kernel you have a very portable system that usually requires little to no user interaction even if you literally exchange all hardware. If you are in need of restricted drivers those are very easy to find and in the meantime you'll use universal drivers that do work.
[Nexus 5X General] elektronchika:
So, the topic is dead? Somebody want to try 3GB chip? K3QF6F60AM-QGCF could be placed on the place of the current RAM chip. This particular chip is also used in LG G4 (Snapdragon 808 and 3GB RAM).

I did a research and found out that the solder balls are placed on the outside periferal of the chip. This means that the RAM would be possible to be desoldered without desoldering the MSM8992 (Snapdragon 808) SoC (which has solder balls all underneath). Such chips can be ordered from Aliexpress or other china webpages (neved ordered from them). This is achievable!

The thing that is not clear for me is if some software mods should be done - does the SoC understand automatically how much ram is connected to it?
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
I mean is this something "doable" by yourself? Or you need high tech hardware / machines?

If you can do this...or you can send it to some repair shop so they did this for you....I wouldn't​ mind...

Can you actually buy that chip?

EDIT: Seems to be highly difficult to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEp3WsP01w

But for the RAM you have less pins.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] elektronchika:
The video shows this very clear - the RAM chip pins are on the outer side. I think this is acheavable my be, as I'm used to solder with heat gun. The problem is if Android will recognize the new capacity of the chip automatically. And yes - I don't want to try this on my phone, I would buy a phone with broken screen but working motherboard and swap the motherboard into my phone to test it. Or buy a new motherboard, but I cannot find it anywhere online. Any ideas?
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
I'd like to try this, buying a 3GB or 4GB RAM.

I can't even find the stock RAM in Samsung webpages "K3QF3F30BM-QGCF" based on this picture:

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
[Nexus 5X General] scynthero:
Aliexpress is my guess
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Yes, there are some options, but I don't see the Samsung brand in some of them, could this be a problem? Maybe they are not RAM chips.

Tried to find the 3GB and the 4GB similar variant.

https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...lgo_pvid=8fed0937-0051-4033-8530-8e1d8a46e439

Anyway. I've also asked a repair shop, about how much could cost a replacement like this If I provide them the logic board.

And....I'm not sure if this could work for my ex-N5X since I've already reflowed the motherboard 2 times (and got a perfect phone working for 2 days). But now is Knocked Out...it doesn't turn on, unless I heat that chip, and it works fine for half day.
[Nexus 5X General] CLPose:
Would you be so kind as to explain us how you heat your phone to make it work, at least, for half a day? Thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Not anymore I've tried today and is totally dead. But the first two times worked..I don't recommend it to you... In yotube there are a few videos about heating the mother with a heat gun to revive the phone.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] zurik:
But it's temporary...
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Yes that's why I don't recommend it at all. Unless you are considering you phones motherboard already dead (like I was)

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] Antonioblee1:
My phone was out of warranty too. Bought 2015 nexus 5x 16gb from swappa contacted them and put when I bought phone which was in 2016. Provided them receipt from swappa and they repair my motherboard I now have 32 GB nexus 5x and they cleaned it also..had all kinds of grit inside speaker holes xD ..good as new....did I mention it was FREEEEEE
[Nexus 5X General] CLPose:
Great to know! :good: Where are you from? Who is "them"? Google? LG? From which country? :confused: I think we should provide as many tips as possible to help people whose N5X went into bootloop. Thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Yeah but here in Spain is a dead end. I've sent them my inmaculated 5X (I bought in Amazon un June or July 2016) and they denied warranty because they found a liquid stain inside. I don't even know if this was true...since I never opened the phone before sending it to them......but well obviously this wasn't related to the bootloop

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 5X General] Antonioblee1:
Here in USA sent my phone to LG service center in Texas.
[Nexus 5X General] madbilly69:
So we don't have any news about making our phone ram 4gb.

I propose [MENTION=4825246]Cathair2906[/MENTION] to show us the motherboard and see exactly which chip the phone have on now
[Nexus 5X General] elektronchika:
Good idea!!!
[Nexus 5X General] Modder001:
Hey can your store collect my friend's bootlooped nexus 5x from countries other than china ??????

Please reply ASAP
[Nexus 5X General] usaid.shafqat:
Yay my Nexus 5X got fried today too but I bought it in Nov 16 so I think it's still in warranty but where I live, LG doesn't deal with mobile phones so getting it upgraded is my last resort. Can you please post a picture of the chip that the guy upgraded it to or the name or the phone he took it out of so I can do the same and get it fixed locally? Thank you very much! :D
[Nexus 5X General] wzcrz:
I am from China,thats right!

You can type "nexus5X运存升级4G" or "nexus5x 4G" on Taobao.com.

Then U can find some information about it!Or you can call your friends in china help you !
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
actually, i've found someone posted it already from china forum
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
2GB RAM Original 5X

[IMG="2GB RAM"]http://na.cx/i/Q3h517e.jpg[/IMG]

4GB RAM Upgraded 5X

[IMG="4GB RAM"]http://na.cx/i/1f12k90.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 5X General] Siljorfag:
I found this

http://www.datasheet-pdf.com/Search-Datasheet-PDF/H9CKNNN

8GB on Nexus? Who will be first with Nexus 8GB RAM?
[Nexus 5X General] Cathair2906:
serious? :laugh:
[Nexus 5X General] Siljorfag:
I'm just curious if that will gonna work :D

Hynix also has 24GB chips, so no problem. Someone know how many RAM Snapdragon supports? :)
[Nexus 5X General] crazyates:
You guys are confusing "GB" and "Gb".

GB = GigaByte. This is what we talk about when talking about RAM usually.

Gb = Gigabit. This is usually what's referenced when talking about RAM chips.

8Gb = 1GB. Those 8Gb chips are really only 1GB RAM chips. Those 24Gb chips are really only 3GB chips, which would still be better than our current 2GB, but it's not what you're thinking.
[Nexus 5X General] wirts:
maybe this one will do the job? https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS...lgo_pvid=a323fe0c-dbb3-43fc-8077-ad17d84d6903

or this one https://pt.aliexpress.com/store/pro...amsung-SDRAM-CHIP-IC/1523537_32698218201.html

(K3QF3F30BM-QGCF)