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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
[MENTION=4060819]SmilerOnline[/MENTION] and all, I think I found something interesting that I don't recall seeing it discussed before. It is regarding the apps windows position and size. If you close the apps before you undock, the windows position and size would be retaimed for those apps that you didn't open whilst it was undocked.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] samteeee:
New DeX Version....

Hi guys,

I bought my S8+ & DeX from UK and few days ago got my phone but not the dock! The invoice said "Backorder"!

But this morning I chat withe the Clove Technology, my retailer in UK, and was informed that a new, revised version

of DeX has been released and I should wait to get that one!

Have you guys heard anything ?

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] russ18uk:
Interesting! When you get it, would you mind opening it up and posting some photos?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] samteeee:
Sure thing!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Also could you go into the about screen and tell us the DeX station version?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Lee82UK:
According to the clove page, the new version isn't due until September?!

Seems difficult to find stock in the UK.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I got mine from Mobile Fun UK, and received it within 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Me too!.

I honestly think that since it supports Citrix Receiver & VMware Horizon, there is no longer a need for things like Wyse Thin clients as this is better in pretty much all ways.

* No boot time - Since the device is primarilly a phone it is likely already powered on.

* It has proven to be faster than the Wyse boxes I used in the past at most typical daily tasks - general web browsing, youtube and other media streaming too and it can even play all of the demanding(in Android terms) games that I have tried on it.

* I have installed pretty much all apps or equivalents to that which I used on Windows (Excluding Paint.net and Visual studio).

* There are many apps for things that Windows requires web apps for, providing a more native experience.

* Less noise as there is barely any heat output and the fan has only ever span up on me once over the past 3 days(And I have pretty much not been off of this device over the whole weekend).

* In most areas it is actually better than my Lenovo/Windows x64/AMD (6 month old) laptop at everything. On that laptop I only need to have 10 browser tabs open and it begins to lag heavilly (and I often run a large number of tabs when researching things for example).

* Less buggy/more stable than Windows 10 has become (since the beginning of 2017 with the latest updates).

* And then there is the obvious factor - It is alot more portable than any laptop or desktop tower.

Which can only be good going forward as we see this BYOD(Bring Your Own Device) become more common, as more employees will be able to improve their workstations performance just by upgrading their phone and this will improve their entire digital lives, not just in the workplace!

As we head on into the future, I think that it would be silly for the industry to ignore something as big as this!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Just a quick update,

I was deliberately trying to make it stutter in Dex mode yesterday by running a 1080p video stream whilst playing​ GTA vice city, and I barely saw any performance impact. Every now and again I would see the game drop from the steady 60 frames per second to about 50, but that was nothing really in real world use cases people aren't very likely to need quite that much performance, so it's good to know that it can cope really well under pressure.

Also noteworthy was that the temperature of the device was still very low during this test. I was quite surprised as my last Samsung phone (the S4) gets very hot when doing any gaming alone, without the other tasks running​ and my Nexus 6P gets rather warm too.

Maybe Samsung thought that since the note 7 issues were so controversial, they needed to fix that annoying temperature issue of older phones, and I can honestly say that they have done a great job!

If you would like me to report back on any other tests in Dex post a request below!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] topaz330:
It would be awesome if someone would make a aftermarket laptop kit.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] konvalink:
I did not find answer anywhere, so... Is possible to connect NTFS HDD to Dex? I mean, will it work? Unlike direct connect do S8+, which only offers formatting it. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jawonder:
How are you guys liking Dex so for ?.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I wouldn't worry about that as you can download software such as this linked below which allows you to read pretty much any file system on Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro

p.s. I can't seem to format my USB to NTFS on Windows 10 at the moment to give you a more detailed answer as Windows 10 fails to complete the formatting process.

Pretty much everything is broken on my Windows 10 build running on my laptop since using the 2017 builds of Windows 10.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It has proven to be very effective at everything I have tried so far.

I don't think that I'm going back to my laptop, especially not now that I have read that I can install Windows 10 in an emulator on the phone to run the legacy Win32 apps that I might need. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] aartvv:
Like Dex really much so far.Only thing i can't get to work is that the sound goes via the speakers on my monitor.It uses the speaker on my phone or of i select the other option it uses the audio out port.But unfortunatly not the speakers on the monitor.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] teegunn:
I've googled searched but can't find an answer to this question - can you use the dex dock on a laptop display? And if so, can you use the mouse and keyboard on the laptop with Dex? I have an old laptop that I would use for the display/keyboard/mouse. I would just leave the laptop at work, not have to bring my daily driver laptop with me, could just bring my S8+ and have the dex dock at work and connect it to the old (like 5 years old) windows laptop.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I couldn't imagine that would be likely (currently at least anyway), but I assume that in the near future you will see "lap-docks" which will enable you to slide the s8+ in and use it like an ordinary laptop, especially if there is a demand for it, and I have seen lots of comments about this, so would likely be something that Samsung recognizes there is a market for, or someone else could step in and make their own.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nosympathy:
Serious question here - what does this dock have in it over any of the $50 docks out there besides a fan? or USB-C to HDMI minus the fan and ethernet? Is there something special hardware wise to assist the phone in acting like a desktop?

Asking because the $150 price tag seems extremely steep for what it is.

I've fiddled around for a bit now trying to trick Dex into running while only hooked up to a USB C to HDMI adapter with keyboard and mouse hooked up and power. If I could trick it into running I'd have an answer based on how well it works.

basically, I don't want to shell out $150 and then in 2 weeks find someone has figured out how to trigger Dex without the samsung specific dock and find out I wasted $150.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] r8dooo:
Hi question for those who have this already how does office 365 work (web apps excel online) I have a work account and was thinking this is perfect if fast.

Thanks

---------- Post added at 10:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 PM ----------

Thanks for this cancelled mine from Samsung direct which was on pre order and now getting on Wednesday
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] teegunn:
I do think having a "lapdock" would be nice. There is the one mentioned early in this thread I believe. It would be nice to be able to just plug in the S8 to a laptop and use it that way. With Dex you still have to have a separate keyboad, mouse and display. If the Dex dock was $50 instead of $150 I might give it a try, but for $150 it sounds too pricey.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Regarding price, I guess that as this technology is so new we have to accept that. But if the technology succeeds, then I think that multiple mobile hardware vendors will start to bring alternative devices with these capabilities, which will force the price to come down, or we may even see docks provided with devices to help a vendor to outshine other vendors.

But in order to make this happen we need to see a large number of people buying this to show that there is a demand, and since I have been so passionate about the merge of the desktop and mobile to become something like this since 2008, I feel like it is in my best interest that I purchase this to show that there is a demand for it now.

I put a video together talking about this before the annoucement of Dex as I decided to attempt this kind of thing independently in December as I was sick of waiting for others to introduce this technology.

https://youtu.be/QLr7EtAgCKU?t=2m5s

p.s. the link skips my project and goes straight on to the info about 'Unified Computing' to show what is possible now and in the near future to make this the perfect time to bring these technologies to market!.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] teegunn:
Great video! I agree completely - I have long wanted unified computing. It's been something that seemed so obvious to me - the advantage of having to only have one device and use that for everything. The only downside I can see is if the device is lost, stolen or damaged where you lose a lot of data. I am not a huge fan of cloud storage, although I do use it some.

As far as app backups - that is still lacking on non-rooted android devices. I long used Titanium to backup apps AND data and migrate them to my devices yearly. Since last August when I went from my Note 4 (skipped the Note 5 because it did not have an SD card slot) to my Note 7, I had to find a different way to migrate apps and data since rooting the Note 7 (at least the qualcom version) was never done properly. I had two Note 7's and then finally once my second Note 7 was bricked i went to an S7Edge. With all of those I used Helium backup and that migrated apps and data over pretty well. But I have not been able to get Helium to work migrating to my S8+. What I am getting at is this - there needs to be a much better way to consistently migrate apps AND their data to other devices. That is one area that Android needs to get better at for unified computing to work better IMO.

I am interested in a way to use my smartphone as a desktop device. Dex looks promising. I believe there may be a developer or two who have been working on something similar for all android devices (just can't think of the names of the apps/developers right now). I would use this if it worked well enough. You make a good point about buying the Dex so that Samsung and Google realizes how many people want unified computing.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
[MENTION=3318880]teegunn[/MENTION]

I think that this is just another case of "wait for the demand to increase", I'm sure people will want to start using there own home storage to perform a backup. I have a 4TB Qnap storage box, I'd like to use it to automatically backup my device every night during charge times.

As long as people like us continue to make the point that you want this, I think it'll come!

Just bare in mind that (I think) the international S8 release (for non-preorder customers) is the 28th of April, so the demand may start to increase mid-May.

*EDIT*

Also worth noting:

I have previously found that some of my apps store their data within the sub-directory 'Android/data' in the internal storage, I can't imagine that it should be too difficult to create backup solutions which simply backs up this folder and restores it on newer devices as this folder is easilly accessable to un-rooted users via a simple file explorer. I have manually migrated some of my apps config data(and game saves...) from my previous device by simply copying the apps folders from this location.

The one thing I would love to ask Google for is for me to simply select a folder within Google Drive which it will automatically sync when it detects changes (especially the documents folder now I have Dex).

I'm not sure that I would want to rely on a Samsung backup solution, just because I wan't to feel safe in the knowledge that if I move to a different vendor, I can be sure that I will have all of my folders again!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*Update*

I've added a screenshot of the desktop on my Dex to the first post for those of you that want to see it :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] turt:
Hi,

Thanks for all the information about DeX!

I don't have one, but I have a USB-C Dell Dock (WD15) that I use with my Dell XPS15 laptop.

I tried connecting my phone to the USB-C port of the dock, as an experiment.

My observations so far:

1) fast charge is activated on the phone

2) Ethernet is activated on the phone instead of Wi-fi or LTE, there's an ethernet icon appearing where the wi-fi or LTE icon would usually appear. The ethernet connection works, as I can access resources only available on my local network via ethernet.

3) Logitech mouse (MX Anywhere 2) and keyboard (K800) are activated and fully working on the phone

4) phone display (not sound) is replicated on my Dell monitor (U3415W), which is connected on the dock through a miniDP cable

The only downside is of course the fact that the interface is the exact same one as can be found on the phone, and not the more pc-friendly interface triggered by the DeX...

I wish I could trigger this interface somehow, but then the DeX would be useless so I guess it won't happen :/
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*Update*

Added another screenshot on OP of the desktop with multi-window examples and showing the network speeds (OFFTOPIC - The 4G network speeds appear to return greater speeds than my my PC gets on the home WiFi sometimes lol) and the thermal temperature (on the Exynos international variant) in CPU-Z and also showing the Samsung Browser (Which by the way seems better than Chrome both in Dex and the phone UI imho, and the synchronisation just adds to that & ctrl+mouse wheel scroll zooms on the Samsung browser!).

And there is now a poll to find out how many of you have a Dex/plan to buy one or not
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] oF2pks:
Link added to your s8+ thread; don't hesitate to cross-quote if you have clearings on "corporate theoretic applications" of DeX.