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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nosympathy:
per the apk, not the case. It pulls that info from the dock, but doesn't do anything with it other than display it for you to see. There is a smali file for the about dex screen and it's extremely basic.

forgot to upload the decompiled APK, I'll do that tomorrow.

If you can figure out what the dock "tells" the phone, then possibly. Have the raspberry pretend to verify the same. All depends what is actually shared during the handshake.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Sv3nDV:
Looking forward to that decompiled APK. If I get time today, I will see if I can get some USB logging going on when the phone gets docked.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] nosympathy:
here is the decompiled apk, unzip with 7zip.

to open files within it, I generally find Notepad++ to be the best tool (what I've used for years)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] methoddon1:
hello to all lucky Dex users... definitely looks like Samsung is aiming it high... Great time to be alive)))

I've got one simple question that I didn't find my answer for by reading and searching, - did anyone try connecting Speakers through USB and not through Bluetooth?! wondering if the situation can be little reversed... 1 USB for Keyboard lets say, 2 USB for connecting regular Speakers that you can either connect to a laptop or use adapter for an outlet (kind with USB) and a mouse connected to S8 via Bluetooth.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I have used a USB-A to 3.5mm audio adapter and it works great! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] erikbraun:
Open more than one Word file on Dex

Hi, I now have the Dex for one week and it works just fine. Desktop looks great, the Samsung is more than fast enough for Office, email, internet, etc. No problem whatsoever.

A problem is that I cannot open more than one Word file at the time, in order to drag and drop texts from one to other. Also copying texts in email (I use Samsung mail) is not easy, I cannot do that by pressing the left mouse button. What do I do wrong? Help much appreciated! Erik
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Yes I have tried it in dex dev mode but that doesnt make a differense, should it?

BTW where did You here about the mid june dex horizon thing? :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Multiple sources, but here is one linked below:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/29/vmware_samsung_galaxy_s8/

As for the dev mode thing, I was just curious, as I know that has fixed many apps that I previously couldn't use in a flexible window (or even on a device without touch input) so that I can use pretty much any app that I use on my phone in DeX mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I know that it can't be difficult to acheive multiple-instance support, as I did exactly that with DeX Pad very easily.

Microsoft only need to make a very small change to their code to implement this.

I have had the same problem with the official email client app, I hope that they will fix this problem soon, as it can be difficult to quote previous conversations in the email client...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*UPDATE*

DeX Hub will now automatically switch you over to HDMI audio out on startup.

But it also offers a switch to HDMI audio button for those who can't find the system control switch if they need to switch to HDMI audio manually.

And now it also has a simple true windowed mode guide to enable the developer settings, to remove the need for any hackery required to make apps work in a true windowed like fashion.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Thanks for the heads up! May I know if there was an update, to S8 or Dex station? I checked both and they both are shown as the latest but without the features you mentioned. Your enlightenment would be much appreciated.

EDIT: I got it! It's the magic of your Dex Hub app. Thanks so much!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
I use WPS Office which support multiple windows without issues. You can't open multiple tabs when docked but you can open multiple docs from file explorer.

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@SmilerOnline, Dear Sir, can you look check to see if it is possible to open app with single click instead of double-click from Desktop? It is confusing since it is single click everywhere else to lunch an app. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] sanjsrik:
I don't see the point of this thing. The phone is a phone. Not something to be tethered to a desktop. If I wanted that, i'd have bought a desktop not a phone.

just my .02. (discounted for inflation of course)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Your discounted .02 worth of cold water has just vaporized in the thin air with the enthusiasm shown in this Dex forum! People are entitled to believe that a phone is a phone, and:

- if they want to take photos, they would buy a carmera;

- if they want to take videos, they would buy a camcorder;

- if they want to listen to music, they buy a Walkman;

- if they want GPS, they would buy a GPS;

- if they want desktop concenience, they would buy a desktop.

Why not! Whatever works for you, I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] sanjsrik:
People use walkmans still? Or camcorders? I'm so glad I have a device that does all that in one.:silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] NicksOnTheWing:
Within 5 years people will be saying "people still using standalone computer towers?"
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
Well done! You got my point, I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I have to say, I have previously tried to look for a way around this before.

I will see if I can get in touch with the guys at Samsung to push for the option to single click or double click desktop icons to launch the apps.

Thanks for the feedback about DeX Hub.

I would appreciate a review on the play store (no one has reviewed it as of yet...). :(

*UPDATE*

I've emailed the guys at Samsung requesting an option to be added alongside the 'Pointer speed' option in the DeX settings to enable single click to launch an app on the desktop! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS UPDATE*

I assume that the S8 will get 'Android O' and I think that this will be great for DeX users, as we will see support for Pointer capture.

This means that finally we could see improved experiences in remote desktop environments.

But also it will add the ability to enable a full desktop like experience in FPS (First Person Shooter) like games.

Also noteworthy is that 'Android-O' will bring multi-display enhancements which may enhance the DeX experience too, with dual(or more) screen support, but also whilst the phone screen is still usable! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] aartvv:
Can not find these new features.How do you update the dex hub?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
The update is available on the Google Play Store:

DeX Hub v1.03
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] russ18uk:
People said that 5 years ago though. PC gaming is growing and is unlikely to slow.

These devices don't replace laptops either, but they do replace thin clients used to login to your desktop in a VM held on a server.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
It really depends on what they're intended to be used for...

Most typical users need nothing more than an internet browser, media playback and MS Office. And for those typical users, DeX is more than capable of handling everything that they throw at it.

But for hardcore PC gamers, the old fashioned desktop still makes sense.

As for the laptop, well DeX is on par with many mid-range laptops, the only limitation to DeX is the lack of a 'lap-dock' enabling the extra screen real-estate whilst on the move. But I'm sure that this won't be too big a problem for very long, we are already seeing a French organisation working on a phone powered 'lapdock' which they say is compatible with DeX!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] zulu99:
I bought an usb C extention cable, usb c female to usb c male, to use dex without remove the phone from the cover.

The display work well, but when i use this usb extention cable, the usb ports on dex stations are disabled, i can't connect nothing to the dex station, also if i use a powerd usb hub.

Someone know a solution or the motivation of this problem ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Have tried it without the case?

It works fine for me with multiple extensions from the dock to the phone, and I use a USB 2.0 keyboard.

I'm not sure that it would be able to power up something that needs a large amount of power (though I haven't tried). But it certainly works fine with my 2.4GHz wireless keyboard USB dongle.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] jaben2:
I don't even need one of these, but want to get in on the fun. Looks like mine will be delivered on Wednesday.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Sv3nDV:
This is great. Thanks for this app! I am using Dex in my old office, and the only thing left that would make it perfect is a direct mouse mode for Horizon. And maybe a native Chrome for dex.

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I got this cable, and so far everything works. I have a USB 2 hub hanging off the Dex dock and plugged things into that, works.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WD5VXTB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] KenHua:
I was in the same boat, but once you get a hang of it you will find yourself hardly need a PC! ;)

It starts up in no time; it uses little power in comparison; you get everything in one place; it is more than fast enough for most things. Everyone was amazed by what this gorgeous phone is capable of! Have fun :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
When you start to use it, I think that it'll open your eyes to what is possible with technology today ☺

Have fun! ?

Thanks for the feedback!

I am glad that all is going well for you.

The direct mouse input will be a feature that will come with Android O, so perfection is on it's way ?

I'm not very sure about Google Chrome for Android... Tablet & Desktop mode don't seem to be a priority to Google. Though I have the Samsung internet bookmark sync on my old computer as a chrome extension and use Samsung's browser as my default now (Which is great with the ad blocker extensions by the way!).

If Google were to bring the bookmarks bar and extension support to Chrome for Android, maybe I'd begin to consider using Chrome for Android again. But until then, I'm happy to stick with the Samsung browser.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I was thinking about the fact that the DeX docks box says that it is 4k capable, but the DeX doesn't output anything other than 1080p.

I'm guessing that this is because Samsung is working on bringing 4k in an update to DeX home launcher, but there is a few optimisations that they may need to make to the launcher to optimise it for these higher DPI's. Clearly the S8 supports adjustable resolutions in phone mode, so I assume that they can implement this in DeX mode too.

There is a few signs that Samsung is looking to bring future improvements to DeX soon, but they obviously weren't ready on release day.

But another thing that came to mind whilst I was thinking about this was that we may see a major update to DeX in late june which could be why VMware is confirmed by Samsung to have an expected DeX optimised experience about then as there may be an update that Samsung is working on to enable certain features to work correctly in VMware.

Just a few thoughts that came to mind about future possiblities for DeX.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
I have an extention from cable creation that doesn't work. Just got another one(suggested earlier in thread by smileronline, going to try it on Monday.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I know that I've previously read that some USB-C cables are incapatible with some USB-C standards such as display-port technologies.

I guess that you were one of the unfortunate people to have one of those cables.

But the one I linked to before works fine for me, so I suspect that it will work fine for you too! :)

Just bare in mind, if buying a USB-C extension cable in the future, that you should double check that it is Display-Port compatible.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Will do, this is the first USB C device I have laid my hands on. Did the mistake of thinking there was only one kind. :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I did the same when I first purchased one, I discovered that I could'nt even transfer data over my first Type-C cable, it was litterally only able to tranfer power...

I guess that with Type-C being relatively new, some manufacturers just want to take advantage of any sales that they can get, even if it means chucking together something useless for most things...

But after having that experience I just realised that it may be in my best interest to buy something with at least 10 reviews and see what the previous buyers had to say about it...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] navyenzo:
Guys, it's driving me nuts but my middle miss clock (clicking the mouse wheel) doesn't work in Samsung dex.

I naturally want to open links in new tabs in the damaging browser by middle clicking links, but I get nothing, I have to ctrl+left-click to get a new tab.

Is it my mouse? Is it the Samsung browser or is it Samsung dex?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] BladeMaverick:
I've had my DeX for a little over two weeks now, while I can't say that it's a desktop killer or by all means a complete detachment from needing to use a desktop for every day purposes, I can say that it is good for everything else. To preface, I'm a heavy gamer, I do some video editing, heavy user of content streaming from YouTube and instant messaging, and multitasking. The last bit is vital, and sometimes chokes the DeX, though it can perform just fine - sometimes. Allow me to iterate. I'm sometimes watching a live stream of a game via Google Chrome, and making a spreadsheet on Google Sheets as I'm talking to a few friends over Discord on the same device. Now, I can chat and watch the live stream over Chrome, but once I switch to Sheets, the live stream pauses automatically - even though it's in a window beside Sheets (or another app. Google Sheets is just what I've been using as of late). A popup by the notifications bar comes up saying that the live stream's been paused. I click play and the stream starts again. I click anywhere in Sheets to continue what I was doing and the stream stops again. I can chat on Discord via voice no problem while watching the stream or on other apps, so there's no interruption there. Might be a setting somewhere that disables that function, haven't found it yet though.

As a gamer, Moonlight Streaming recently updated to support the Samsung DeX and works a treat. Sadly I can't use KB+M for input as it requires root, RIP Snapdragon. Controller support is excellent, and ping is minimal. Around 15 ms with both my desktop and DeX connected to the access point via Ethernet.

For RDP into my desktop... fiddly. Microsoft hasn't yet optimized their RDP app for DeX. It loads, however it's restricted to a very small size which makes it impossible use. Chrome Remote Desktop works, the remote system recognizes all mouse inputs as touchscreen input. No middle-mouse, no right-click (unless you hold left click for a time to access right click). Also, CRD is kinda weird with resolution. If you launch a fullscreen program in windows that takes only 800x600 (Example for gaming while using CRD), when you exit out, Windows is now stuck in 800x600 until you disconnect then physically go to the computer to turn on the monitor to fix the resolution, or boot Microsoft Remote Desktop for a minute to reset the resolution, exit out, and go back into Chrome Remote Desktop.

The one nice thing is just the ability to mirror the phone screen to the monitor to make up for some of the apps that don't work with DeX or show up as a tiny screen on DeX. Big props.

Also, I wish I didn't buy the OtterBox case that has the plastic + silicon/rubber dual case, Having to disassemble the case to get the phone to use the DeX hurts my fingers. Ah well, can be remedied with another case.

Otherwise, for general use I would give the DeX a pass, 4 out of 5 stars for its use at its early stages as I know that this is a new thing and not everything has been optimized. Now I just need to find a small HDMI monitor that I can carry around for cheap..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] russ18uk:
Good summary. It's not anywhere near an i3 when it comes to multitasking. Some of that will be down to Dex optimisation, but most is down to the fact that ARM CPUs aren't meant to be powerhouses.

This is a replacement for Atom-based dumb clients reliant on server virtualisation at the office or writing a letter to your doctor.

It's not even a replacement for Chromebooks. Yet: if you could slide your phone into a DVD drive bay replacement, maybe it'd replace a Chromebook, just that it'd be a bulkier laptop.

I've been thinking and I've come to the conclusion that, unless the DeX could provide acceleration, using Chromecast with a DeX-like interface would be a better solution.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] BladeMaverick:
A thought, would using a USB C F to USB C M work to circumvent the need to remove the S8/+ from its case? I'd be half tempted to go that route.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] :
Thread cleaned up.

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Don't hesitate to PM me if there are any issues that need to be looked upon.

Thanks for all you do!

Regards

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Thank you for cleaning up this forum.

My sincere apologies that those discussions took place within this forum topic.

I will avoid that happening again.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] navyenzo:
Guys anyone figured out how to make the middle click of mouse wheel to start an new tab function work? Maybe a different browser will work?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] pRo_lama:
No, it's not working in DeX mode.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I previously sent an email to Samsumgs DeX team requesting sypport for the middle mouse button within the browser when in DeX mode.

Just a quick note to everyone:

I was looking through the 'Samsung-framework-res.apk' file resources previously, and it suggests that Samsung are working to bring a large quantity of desktop like features that we all are familiar with, I guess that this suggests that Samsung just didn't have the time to get it all ready before the release date deadline for the S8.

One of my favourite features that the resource files appear to suggest is coming is something similar to 'Window snap' on other OS', enabling you to quickly drag the window to the side to quickly fill half of the screen with that app in a dual app screen layout!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEWS UPDATE*

The DeX dock can enable Microsoft Continuum on Windows Phones, so DeX appears to be using an evolved version of the technology in the Continuum dock.

So DeX could possibly be built on a universal open standards technology, but a more recent variant due to limitations of older continuum docks, it seems that the S8 cannot launch DeX mode on the continuum docks.

This could explain how the miraxess lapdock station is able to launch DeX mode, as I assume that it is using newer technology which may be similar to that within the DeX station.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*NEW FEATURES COMING TO DEX EVIDENCE*

In these resource folders which I spoke of you can see the files names suggest the following new features may be coming to the DeX.

I have highlighted the files in the images that I believe may suggest that Samsung are working to bring some of these features to DeX:

* Multi-Display

* Track/Touch Pad

* Window snap

* Coloured title bars

etc
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] navyenzo:
Thank you, I can't wait for the update
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Moogung:
I have just succeeded in running KODI fullscreen on DeX by DeX MAX.

It succeeded in a very experimental condition.

I will organize this experiment into my app soon.

I will notify this thread when DeX MAX is updated.

[IMG="Full KODI on DeX by DeX MAX"]https://s3.ap-northeast-2.amazonaws.com/dexmax/screenshot/Screenshot_20170523-232836+(1).png[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lsxmma:
Ok, so I am not very techy but very interested in Dex. Is it fairly simple learning curve? I use my phone all day long for work and it would be so much simpler to use on a desktop.

Also, I have read conflicting things. Is all I need a monitor that is HDMI compatible and a keyboard? Does the keyboard have to be wiresless?

The only things i am really wanting to do is text, use google drive and internet.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
Is it possible to get a real fullscreen mode for games? Without any UI?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
Yes, have a look earlier in the thread I'm using the extension smileronline suggested a few pages back and it works great. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
I use a keyboard connected via USB, so that is fine!

I would say that if you're familiar with Windows desktop & Android mobile then this will be pretty familiar, as it pretty much feels like a Windows desktop layout, but with Android apps, and an Android style settings app instead of a Windows style control panel.

I have a USB keyboard, I switch between a bluetooth mouse an a USB mouse depending on where I am, and I have two HDMI displays and 1 DVI display which all have worked fine with the dock!

I hope that helps! :)

Good to know that everything is working fine for you! :)

It depends on what game you're playing, but most games work in full screen with the developer mode on! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
Without any UI? A "real" fullscreen? What games don't work?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
If a game is optimised for much older versions of Android, it may not hide the taskbar when you maximise it, but anything designed for more recent versions of Android should hide the taskbar fine.

On the non-developer mode, apps which are not optimsed for DeX will be forced to run in a mobile sized window, but you can get around around this just by switching to the developer mode.

I guess that Samsung just set it to fixed phone window sizes by default if it is not optimised for resizable windowed mode just to reduce the chance of users experiencing any bugs in non-DeX optimised apps. But the Developer mode removes this limitation as most technically minded people will know that one or two bugs may be expected in older apps.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Motawa88:
Is there a way to autohide the taskbar in general?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
Technically, the taskbar works just like the phones navigation bar, so any apps to hide the nav bar on phones should work to hide the taskbar on DeX.

Check out this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dreamori.hidebar
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] lsxmma:
So, do I have to have a monitor that is HDMI? I looked today and my work provided one does not have HDMI input.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] Egon31:
DVI has worked for people, I haven't tested myself.

But a DVI to HDMI cable should work. As smileronline just mentioned. ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Accessories] SmilerOnline:
*@USA S8 OWNERS*

If you are from the USA, on T-Mobile and own an S8, you may get a free DeX dock:

http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobile_wor...e_dex_dock_with_purchase_of_s8-news-25194.php