yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] speedtriple675:
Coming from the Pixel XL it definitely isn't as easy. I feel like the size of the reader is too small. It doesn't work every time like the Pixel did. The area for the sensor was much larger and round. All in all i don't mind it though, and still better than being on the front. S8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] physicsguymatt:
I'm using the Samsung Alcantara case with the S8+ and haven't had an issue at all. Easy to find, easy to reach, quick to unlock. I also use it with Samsung Pay and Last Pass pretty often and haven't yet found it challenging. I was concerned before I got it since just about every single review mentioned how awkward it was, but no issues here. I don't have large hands, but maybe I just hold the phone differently by habit.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr. Fed:
I'm using the wee little baby S8, the fingerprint scanner is exactly where my pointer finger rests on the back of the phone. I use a case, so that really helps. I find it to be much more reliable than the one on the S7 edge, and I love that it turns on the screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GGG10:
It is much easier than I thought it was going to be after the reviews that I read (S8)

Whether the camera lens will get filthy pretty quickly we'll have to wait and see.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] markwebb:
It's ok on the regular S8 but it feels less responsive and slower than the Note 7 scanner to me as I have to rehit it a few times. I am finding facial or iris recognition is so much better.

Some reviews are solely basing their opinion on this FS position and giving it a less than stellar overall rating.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] parusia:
I got the Galaxy S8 Plus, and my finger print button works flawlessly. I really love the placement of the button, but I'm a left hand user. I'm a happy camper.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Djapatos:
I wouldn't say i like the placement but its no longer such a deal breaker. before actually having the phone all the negative reviews dont mean anything to me now. Once i put a case on i never misplaced my finger and it works flawless.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] amyf27:
Yes it does. I've used it many times and never a fault

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] abdullaha:
Without a case, I still find it comfortable for my right hand pointer finger. I've gotten used to it, after a day using it. I'm on the + and it's not bad at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] D4rk_nVidia:
I don't like the FPS and it's position.

Under the camera would be much better and the sensor is to strict. It unlocks only if the whole finger is on the sensor but with my honor only a part of my part is enough to unlock. It's still secure but much faster. Swiping down the status bar with FPS works much better with my honor 8 too.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bsims85:
I'm left handed, so it's a bit more uncomfortable. However, it's much less of an inconvenience than I thought it would be and I use it often along with the Iris scanner which works incredible well. I thought I wouldn't use it at all, but it's definitely functional and usable, just not ideal. I'm using the S8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Skander1998:
It's all about how you grip the phone and how your hand size is.

I can comfortably hit the sensor with both left and right hands on the S8+, yes the large variant.

No other member in my family likes the position. So I'm in a minority here.

A better "universally" comfortable position would have been better.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Johno_Jan:
Maybe its good that you can immediately reach and start

Unlocking it as you're taking it out of your pocket, but cmon...

The placement is horrid. It should have been under the camera quite a bit lower. It is way too close to the camera lens. I smudge it up all day.

When im at work and i get a notification or something and i swipe it to see it I cant do it without picking the phone up off my desk to unlock it. Fingerprint, iris, and face all require you to pick up the phone. Even the pin is a pain in the butt because you cant just press the numbers you have to make sure you hit okay -__-

I'd rather have a slightly thicker bezel on the bottom with a fingerprint scanner. In fact, the whole 18.5:9 aspect ratio on this RUINS too many apps and features in my opinion. Snapchat pictures are all zoomed in and cropped retarded for instance.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] abdullaha:
If it was lower, I would have to contort my finger and bend it to reach it. I have large hands and the way I grip the phone, it's comfortable.

Having it on the back in general is annoying, making you have to pick up the phone everytime, however I have gotten used to it.

The design is so gorgeous and eye-catching that a few annoyances that need getting used to, are okay in my book.

Yes, I agree, the app aspect ratio issue is annoying for most unscalable games and certain apps. But most work well, even if the phone thinks they won't.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kEvinErd:
I hate the fingerprint sensor for 3 reasons:

1) being in an awkward position. Can't count how many times I've accidentally touched my camera lens instead.

2) being overly small. Keeps getting false negatives matches!

3) being unreliable to wake the phone when screen is off. Only wakes the phone say 70% of the time?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Joeful:
I agree with OP, though the G6 has the better placement and response time. The placement on the S8 is only going to work well with right handed use. I bought the Otterbox Defender case for my S8. It's impossible to smudge the camera while using the phone in my right hand with this case. The corner of the opening for the camera on this case does not allow the tip of the index finger to move. The bottom of the opening's elevation sits right below the very top knuckle on the index finger, so it's impossible to bring the finger down to smudge the lens. Everyone's hands are different, but my reservations on how well the scanner would work before I bought the phone have been laid to rest. LG phones have the better placement and response time, but this one has worked well enough for me to not consider another form of instant unlock.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] eniorodriig:
Really bad choice to put the finger print scanner where it currently is. When i first got the phone i really hated this, Iris and Face recognition wasn't doing me any good too slow for normal day use. I still hate the finger print scanner but i gotta admit, I've got so use to it that it's not a problem anymore. It's all about that muscle memory, i got so to it that my finger just sits there when i hold the phone ready to unlock. I also find the normal S8 harder. The footprint of the phone is smaller and the palm of the hand doesn't grip as good to the phone, therefore it's feels like you have no grip or the phone is sliding of your hand. In the other hand the S8+ has a larger foot print and i feel like my hand just rests firmer and i have more grip to it. I can reach that finger print without any issues, and my hand's aren't big at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
the media ? I dont like it, same for my family and friends. Im returning mine tomorrow because of this stupid design.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] YellowGTO:
I love the fingerprint sensor. I use a case and have no problem pulling down my app drawer every time. (S8+). I am 6'3 though.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie Hicks:
I'm getting use to it. It's not as bad as I expected. The thing that I don't like is the fact that I have to pick the phone up to unlock it. I use to unlock my phone while it laid on my desk to read emails, browse the web, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TechBSwift:
For those who say they have problems with the fingerprint reader not reading correctly. Here's the simple solution that really works.... Register that figure 2 or 3 times. I've realized with my s6, s7, note 7 and this phone, the more times you register the same figure, the better the scanner is
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Iceblastzz:
I have a S8+ and the FPS was never an issue for me. I kinda like its placement as thats where my index finger will rest most of the time.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] insang-droid:
Media uses the phone for a few days at most. They are use to other scanners and they have muscle memory that's use to having the FPS in the middle of the phone. After a week, I'm like some of you. My finger finds it way to sensor just fine without touch the camera. Having a case certainly helps.

I have plus model and left hand is definitely easier than right, but I keep my phone in my left pocket.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] death365:
i had the s8 for 3 weeks now and i find the finger print reader is not a problem for me ... my finger "auto finds" it now :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cantenna:
agreed!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] raduque:
I've had my S8 for a week and I found myself trying to touch the camera on my S7 edge to unlock it, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] meshaun:
I've been using the Redmi Note 3 before and now I'm quite used to having the FPS in the back.

And, it's actually quite easy to get the finger to the Sensor. I find no problem actually.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] le0.br4zuc4:
I didn't like it at first but with a case seems pretty good. Still prefer where it is on my G6
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leomagnani:
The only problem with the placement for me is when you want to unlock and the phone is laying on a table, because even iris scanner isn't effective in this situation. Most part of time is easier to enter my pattern then grab the phone and unlock, a issue for every back fps phone. Btw, the fps on s8 is much more accurate then my S7 Edge imo...

Enviado de meu SM-G950F usando Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
\Hello fellow G5 Plus owners!

This thread is in its beginning stages but the ultimate goal is to create a compendium for newcomers and the rest of us of all the ROMS, Root methods, Unlocking, Etc.. I'll be asking the mods to make this a sticky.

Everything below is "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK". Not my problem but if you ask nicely folks might help.

Special thanks to:

LenAsh - Our friendly moderator

vache, Santhosh M & Shreps - for getting this party started!

Vincom - for doing it best

*** PLEASE SUBMIT ANYTHING I HAVE MISSED IN THIS THREAD. I WILL ADD IT ASAP. ALL SUGGESTIONS WELCOME. ***

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UNLOCKING:

Unlock Bootloader on Lenovo Motorola Moto G5 Plus

ROOT METHODS:

[HOW-TO] How to SuperSU the Moto G5 Plus (Rooting Guide)

How to Root the Moto G5 Plus (Magisk)

TWRP / RECOVERIES:

Best to use the recovery from the first thread (SuperSU) for now. It seems to be more functional than the other.

[HOW-TO] How to SuperSU the Moto G5 Plus (Rooting Guide)

[Unofficial] TWRP 3.1.0-0 Moto G5 Plus [potter]

FIRMWARE:

NPN25.137-35 Stock Full Firmware - Updated 26 March

All Firmwares Moto G5 Plus

ROMS:

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][7.1.2][potter] AOKP-ROM - Moto G5 Plus | OMS/Substratum

[ROM][7.1.2][UNOFFICIAL] LineageOS 14.1 by*vache

[ROM][7.1.2] halogenOS for Moto G5 Plus

[ROM][7.1.2][OFFICIAL][OTA] Resurrection Remix v5.8.3

[ROM][7.1.2][OFFICIAL] AIM ROM [OMS/DUI]

[ROM][7.1.2][OFFICIAL] Cosmic-OS v2.0

[ROM][7.1.2][CAF] Android Open Source Project

[ROM][7.1.2_r24] [OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V4.4

﻿[ROM] [OFFICIAL] [7.1.2] [Potter] ViperOS-v2.1

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][7.1.2_r27] CypherOS 4.0.5

KERNELS:

[KERNEL][NOUGAT]EXTENDED STOCK KERNEL V5 STABLE

[KERNEL][7.x][LINEAGE/AOSP] ALIZE

[KERNEL] ElementalX G5 Plus

[KERNEL][LINEAGEOS/AOSP]EXTENDED KERNEL V6

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*** Again.. this post is in it's preliminary stages and all suggestions are welcome!:cyclops: ***

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IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, STOP!! AND FIND OUT WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND​!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
Mine
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Harsh.gundecha:
There's one more recovery developed by vache which is said to be working with sd card, so u might link that too

(it's one used in superSu root method)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
I wonder if we can convince [MENTION=409801]vanche[/MENTION] to make a separate thread... I'm pretty sure development died on the other version.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Harsh.gundecha:
Will you convince/or just ask as i think that would be more impacting than just a newbie senior member like me ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
I asked him.. kind of. In a chat room when he wasn't there.. my xda standing means little to real devs lol.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] RawSlugs:
How can we disable full encryption and get direct boot?

I saw with other phones can do this by flashing custom boot img. Is there a thread on that?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Just tried that recovery. But I think it's exactly the same. At least my sd is not seen by this recovery also...

Verstuurd vanaf mijn XT1685 met Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
I just went through the thread and it looks like you are correct. That's why I've been waiting for official versions of everything before i even root. I know the lack of sdcard support is common in initial versions of twrp for a new device. Eventually a more experienced Dev picks it up and makes it official...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfblade1215:
Does the sd card not work in just twrp(like for flashing and such) or does it not work in the system too?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
Just twrp
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] zeft64:
How do you disable the nav bar. I know I have to put something in buildprop but I forgot what it was
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
Add this line:

qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gghose:
Just TWRP. It works fine in the system.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kkn_13:
Any way to unlock without using Moto website??
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mike_san:
What if i install the firmware on a Moto G5 plus with prime exclusive?, i could brick it?, i want to remove the ads from lockscreen
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Priezti:
Any information regarding relocking the bootloader, I tried the other day but faced the "still need a signed boot.img" this is after flashing the stock ROM
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] market88:
Please help!

Please i'm afraid to have bricked my moto g5 plus, i followed all the steps of the video you can find in this forum (i cannot post links sorry) but when it ry to wipe-> factory reset in twrp i got this errors:

"failed to mount '/data' (invalid argument)

unable to mount storage

it seems that the phone internal storage can't be read, even from my pc i can't access/copy files to the internal storage. So when i try to reboot the phone just bootloop saying "your device has been unlocked and cannot be trusted"
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
If anyone wants to take over this thread please let me know. I still haven't seen a good reason to even root this phone so I'm moving on from xda for a while.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
I will take over this thread for you if you'd like me too
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
I asked the mods to give it to you but no answer yet
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
Alright thanks
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] malybru:
Mod Edit

[OP] changed

Sorry for the delay.

:)

malybru

Senior Moderator
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mindmajick:
No worries ;)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] scottspa74:
Hi guys, quick question.

I got g5+ for my daughter, haven't rooted yet, not sure if I will.

Just got the prompt for ota update to -35. If I update, will previous root methods no longer work? (I've seen this happen on previous devices I've had).

Thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
Root method should still work sorry for the late response didn't get a message. Tag me if you want a timely response that goes for anyone looking in here.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Apollo2000:
Will be updating guide next week with new roms
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mousse04:
Hi all,

after unlocking my bootloader and install twrp, when I reboot my device, it always boot into bootloader. I need to select "start" to start the system.

Any clue ? Thanks
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hashroot:
can any1 tell me which is the correct baseband to flash custom roms?

p.s. link will be appreciated [MENTION=6915949]sandy108[/MENTION]
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] proposicion47:
on TWRP versions..

TWRP / RECOVERIES:

Best to use the recovery from the first thread (SuperSU) for now. It seems to be more functional than the other.

[HOW-TO] How to SuperSU the Moto G5 Plus (Rooting Guide)

[Unofficial] TWRP 3.1.0-0 Moto G5 Plus [potter]

Just a head ups:

THIS one is the best one currently:

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/development/unofficial-twrp-3-1-0-0-moto-g5-plus-t3576575

for the single reasons that it allows browsing and installing from your external sd card (while 3.1.0 from the rooting guide only allows you to use internal memory)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] manos78:
Hi,

I suggest to link this guide in OP: http://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/guide-complex-ota-update-magisk-rooted-t3688175

---------- Post added at 03:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:23 PM ----------

I fact, the best is this sub-release: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74091290&postcount=412
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] handy5876:
It looks like many have had problems in flashing back to stock. This almost invariably seems related to downgrading bootloader and partition table and then taking an OTA. I think it is important to advice members not to unlock and flash until a same or higher version stock fastboot full ROM is available from what is currently installed.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] xdataibai:
now we have the official twrp for moto g5 plus, is the rooting process the same as the usual one, i.e. 1. unlock bootloader 2. flash the official twrp 3. in twrp, flash latest supersu.? I saw in some thread, it needs to flash a modified kernel? is that still needed?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Coming from a Moto G 2014(titan) I just bought a Moto G5+ and have a similar question.

Is this rooting guide still up to date?

This one seems to be a bit outdated with Vanche's Modified TWRP/Modified Boot Kernel/wifi patch?

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-how-to-supersu-moto-g5-plus-t3587684

The other one is more the Motorola way like I know it, unlock code, unlock via website, flash TWRP (official? There´s an unofficial 64bit version too) via fastboot and flash root app. One thing seems to be new until titan:

Beside superSU or Magisk you´ll have to flash a zip called no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1.zip in a special order.

I´m not sure what this file does but it seems to be important and I didn´t found another or a newer way to root this device.

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-root-moto-g5-plus-t3579659

I´m on magisk 14 at the moment and it´s working good but I read some things about the boot.img of the Moto 5 series, there seem to be problems to patch it and a custom kernel could be needed.

Could someone just tell me if the rooting tutorials are still state of the art and if there´s a reason to prefer one rooting app/method over the other (superSU/magisk)?

Much appreciated.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] attack11:
Hi, stock ROM notices if you modify the system (if you install twrp for example) so you need to flash the disable verity and encription zip to get the ROM to boot, if you flash latests magisk the zip already do this, o recomend you magisk instead for supersu, if you are going to flash a ROM (like lineage) is not needed to flash that zip
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Thx for your reply, understood the need of no-verity-opt-encryt.zip. For the start I will just root the phone, on the long run I will flash custom ROMs as usual but want to check out stock first. So flashing the official twrp should be ok,no need to use the unofficial ones anymore?

And as I had some problems with the latest magisk build I will try my luck with magisk 14 first, beside the no-verity-opt-encryt.zip. Is it correct that way?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] attack11:
Yes official twrp should de OK, If you flash magisk there is no need to flash the no-verity-opt-encryt.zip (magisk already handle this) , Remember that if you flash twrp you cant install ota´s (you need stock recovery) and remember to backup your rom before rooting just in case, If you have issues with root you need a kernel (with f2f2 patched for loop devices) , My kernel is outdated , In that case i recomend you Elementalx :good: , you must check your system version to flash a compatible kernel
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Yeah,I remember your Extended kernel for titan,was a great one. So I don't need the no-verity-opt-encrypt.zip even if I use magisk 14 and not the latest version 15? Or is it better to flash it just to be sure? About future OTAs: As magisk is systemless it should work to flash back stock recovery and boot.img? Yes,and I will backup the ROM as usual before rooting. And thx for the recommendation of ElementalX, my system version is NPNS25 137-33-11.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Psycake:
What root method should I use? Should I do SuperSU or Magisk?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
I would recommend maisk as it is in active development, superSU seems to be dead since [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] retired.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Psycake:
Okay, so I'll use Magisk, but I got another question.

Can I still use apps and games that requires SafetyNet even after modifying the system partition?

If so, how?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
The job of magisk is to not modify the system partition, all changes appear systemless, that's what it's all about. And as it can hide it's rootstatus and even magisk itself you should be able to pass safety net after a proper installation. There are modules like app systemizer that allow the installation of apps to system without touching it, just by creating symlinks. Read the magisk thread for detailed information: https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382

There is no guarantee but if you install SuperSU you also need something like hideSU lite. And as I said magisk is active developed so your chance depending on your device and the changes you want to make is better.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Psycake:
Okay, understood that, thanks!

Another question: if I follow this guide (https://www.howtogeek.com/329647/how-to-get-the-xbox-one-s-controller-working-properly-with-android/) to fix the controller's mapping, I'll modify the system partition, thus disabling SafetyNet. So, is there a way to modify a controller's mapping without modifying the system partition?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Venomous Viper 119:
What is the complete build number of the latest factory image for the Indian variant XT1686, software channel: Retin? Which factory image should I flash? AMZ, RETLA or RETAIL?