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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Droid1019:
Because I got it from Verizon while I could still unlock the bootloader. If I get another from them I won't be able to. Also if you read some of the support forums on VZW or Google you'll see getting another phone is not the answer as some have been through 3-5. The problem lies in the way the new technology in the chip interacts with the towers. So it depends more on where where you are and if the towers have been updated which will be a long time coming in the rural areas that I work in.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] 5.1:
Hey,

Ah... I understand you. Yeah the Verizon policy is really annoying for those wanting an unlockable bootloader.

Also, what makes other manufacturers better as they should pack the same technology in their new chips as well, no?

Cheers...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Bruce lee roy:
Hell-to-the-nah-naaaah
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] CZ Eddie:
Without Xposed, I won't even consider an S8.

Actually, I wouldn't even if they got LOS or AOSP ROM's.

Even back when Galaxy phones did get that type of ROM support, they were always buggy A.F.

Wasn't till I got a Motorola X Pure and Google phone till I found out what a "stable" custom ROM was.

I was rooting & ROM'ing Galaxy Skyrocket, S3, S4, Note 3, Note 4... never had such stability as since the Pure and Pixel.

Sucks too, because I want those new slim bezels, 1000 nit screen, extra water resistance and glove mode if they still have it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] nabbed:
No, it is not true. Pixel XL uses Snapdragon 821 cpu, which is already obsolete today. The most current and fastest cpu in USA is Snapdragon 835, which is about 30% faster than 821 used in Pixel. In 3 years, this phone will be a complete hog, giving you maybe less that 15 frames per second... If Google keeps updating the OS. If it doesn't, it will stay the same speed. Ironic...

No, it is not true. Pixel XL is one of the worst battery draining flagship phones on the market today. Its use of Google Assistant constantly in the background is the major source of battery drain, unless you disable it. But when you disable it, you lose a lot of functionality like the weather widget on main screen, or any other functionality associated with it. Even Galaxy S7/8, with always on display technology, drains less battery than Pixel XL. It's a battery hog. On the other hand, it's active usage battery drain is compatible with other flagship phones. But when you turn off the screen, prepare for a beating.

No, it's not true. You don't actually need to do mods to keep a 1-2 year old Samsung flagship phone running fast, smooth, and low-battery sucking. Perhaps your problems are with Google Services settings and Google's inability to fix bugs in their software. Avoid that software, use Samsung's instead.

Yes, that is true. Google Pixel XL will be a very basic phone with limited capabilities.

Yes, it is true. You will lose quite a bit. Here's a list in no particular order:

1) Infinity Display / Curved edges / sense of style / 84% screen to body ratio.

2) Best brightness and best brightness in sunlight ratings.

3) HDR screen certification.

4) IP68 water and dust proofing.

5) Gorilla Glass 5 durability.

6) Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging.

7) Micro SD card expansion.

8) Best in class low light camera performance. Best in class camera sharpness performance. Best in class selfie camera.

9) Bluetooth 5.0

10) Always On Display.

11) LTE-4CA, twice faster LTE.

12) Samsung Pay, which works everywhere, even without NFC terminals. Works with magnetic stripe readers, which is unique, because no other pay systems can do that.

13) Iris scanner security.

14) SpO2 meter, heart rate sensor.

15) Desktop dock option with optimized desktop OS.

16) Bixby - **** Bixby. Minus 10 points here.

So, you see? You would be losing A LOT!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
2 things

1 - The Pixel XL gives me 7 to 8 hours SOT, location and assistant all on normally. On standby, drain is less than 1%. I call that impressive.

2 - 821 may be the "not the best" but it is still the second best. I have both the iPhone 6 (not S), and the OnePlus One (running a Snapdragon 801) and they're both still rocking it and are smooth as butter. They are both 3 years old. Nothing gets slowed down or becomes heavy and stuttering unless you're installing a crapload of useless things on it. Pixel being a Pixel will get Android O and even Android P, which will surely optimize it even further.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] alluringreality:
I get little pauses at times when some of my Tasker routines run, so realistically I doubt if I would describe the phone that way after three years.

I had an iPhone 7 before getting the regular Pixel. The iPhone clearly had better battery life for my usage patterns out of the box. I've made a bunch of changes to the Pixel so that it's comparable to the iPhone and my previous phone, but out of the box I would tend to expect Apple to have the edge.

It will probably release during the same time of the year as the last two phones. The wiki has the announcement and first availability dates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_(smartphone)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_6P
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
Just curious, what changes have you made?

Rooting aside - as for the first time I do not feel a need to root a device.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] alluringreality:
A lot of my setup relies on Tasker to automatically make setting changes, so it requires root or something like AutoTools Secure Settings on an unrooted phone. My impression was that typically turning off adaptive brightness when indoors may be one of the bigger battery savers from the list. I also had issues with my phone burning through lots of battery when I left wifi on, so automatically shutting off wifi when not in use was another big battery saver, although I hadn't tried changing "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" before installing Tasker. I doubt if the average person would benefit much by things like turning off Google Assistant, but I was trying to get the best standby battery life that I could for the times when I just use the Pixel as nothing more than a phone for talking and texting.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71146945&postcount=301
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
Interesting.

I get 7 to hours SOT (mostly browsing) and idle drain is minimal, circa 1% with everything on and default.

I get rooting and installing Greenify and Nap-Time, and optimized kernels, but killing the device and all it's features does not seem worth it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
I've never gotten more than 4 1/2 hours of SOT. I use a lot of spotify/facebook/messenger tho so I know those 3 are horrible for battery but I dont see me gaining 2 1/2 hours of SOT by not using those.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] 5.1:
Hello,

I don't use social network apps. I don't play music actually. I mostly use my phone for web browsing, SMS/MMS, sometimes play videos, XDA Labs for XDA. Sync is on auto.

I just installed pure Nexus 7.1.2 yesterday. If I remember I had nearly 70% battery left and now 23%. I can assure you you'd gain those 2 ½ hours SOT if you didn't use the aforementioned apps... :good:

Check the attached screenshots.

Cheers...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dylansmith:
I have the exact same sentiments as you do. The bugginess is killing me.

Anyway, just noticed Xiaomi released their new flagship, Mi 6. How about the Mi series? It's cheap and has strong specifications, but how about the software? buggy as hell too?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Facebook and messenger will take a big impact on battery life
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yea I wish I could find a lite version of them that I actually like to use. Its how all me and my friends communicate instead of texting. I have tried a couple ( dont remember which ones) and I wouldnt get any messages until i went back in etc which isnt bad but if they needed an answer soon I wasnt there to give it to them.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
I use folio pro
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Weudel:
The S8 came out like 2 days ago... Is anyone actually debating trading in their S8 for a Pixel? This thread seems ridiculous.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Alcolawl:
Although it will get better with time, it seems the S8 is following the trend of having cutting-edge hardware with bloaty, cramped software.

- flar2, Recognized and Hugely Respected Developer.

No Samsung hate here. Actually going to look at a Gear Fit 2 this weekend. The Pixel XL is the best phone i've ever owned. I plan on it lasting me a good two years. I usually only upgrade when I break a phone or get tired of how slow the device is. The Pixel is butter smooth with all-day battery life, but you never know, I might get bored and want the next best thing. The Pixel isn't an upgrade, more like a sidegrade BUT ONLY IF you want something out of the Pixel that you can't get with the S8, which is freedom. Root, Mods, Kernels, etc. That's what the Nexus and Pixel phones are all about. If you don't care about that then there's almost no point. I'd say, hang onto the S8 for now and see what Google has in store for the Pixel 2. You could always sell off the S8 and snag yourself a brand new Pixel later this year.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jjayzx:
We still have nabbed here, so yes it is ridiculous.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Stephen:
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Thread cleaned, please do not post the same post more than once.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dermotti:
I would only go back to samsung if there isnt a pixel 2. And it would be at least a S9.

Ive hade s6,s7,note5 and note 7. While fast when running individual apps such as games, they are fine. But the overall experience is a bloated mess and slower.

Plus of all the samsungs, i always get uneven colors on my screens and have to keep returning them to get one halfway decent. Now the new s8 is having pink screen issues already.

I dont understamd how samsung keeps messing up the QC on there.screens. My pixel amoled is perfect, and i thought samsujg made the screen. mind blown
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mistahseller:
I got my s8 yesterday and have been using my pixel XL since December. In my personal opinion, I don't know if I'll be keeping my s8. It's an amazing phone, display is awesome, screen real estate, smaller/ slimmer, wifi is stupid fast, etc. However, there's just little things that drive me nuts.

I disabled the bloatware and don't see it, however I don't think I should have to disable Facebook, and direct TV. I should be able to delete it. The pattern unlock doesn't work every single time and I can easily get into my phone. Also when tapping on notifications I have to swipe again on a blank blurry before it'll open my phone which annoys me to no end.

I had gripes about the pixel XL though especially in my vehicle with the bluetooth (they said it's fixed but sometimes it'll connect and keep stuttering) no att hd voice. In my opinion though the pixel XL camera is better.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Pattern unlock doesn't work every single time? What?

Tapping on notification? Then swipe again on blank blurry? Before the blank blurry opens the phone? What?

IMO, no camera is better than S8's - but that's because I have shaky hands, always have, those huge pixel size sensors have amazingly low exposure time, so the pictures always come out super sharp.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ithehappy:
And as expected from a Samsung phone:

LOL
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] nabbed:
What?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ithehappy:
Precisely.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
Seriously though, what are we seeing here?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Looks like a live graph of the CPU activity. The pixel is just chilling and the s8 has allot of activity going on while both devices are doing the same thing
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ithehappy:
Seriously you just don't know about profile GPU rendering or what, and I don't mean that guy who doesn't know anything about android and stuffs, but others too! Damn.

That's from Arstechnica review, https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...shiny-new-hardware-meets-old-software-habits/

Pixel obliterates the S8 in frame count stability, simple as that. And the Pixel was at native 1440p res, where S8 was running at 720p. I don't think I have seen a bigger joke. Knew that S8 would be one of the worst performing anyway because of "Grace"ful bloat but never expected to that extent.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Droid1019:
"Touchwiz is still a janky lag-fest. Despite the faster processor, the Google Pixel is a smoother, faster-feeling device." Arstechnica review
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
The pixel/Nexus phones will always be faster. And with each update the device usually becomes more responsive. The Nexus 7 2012 was the only device I had that got worse
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Badazzmenc:
If you get a s8 I trade you my pixel xl is on Verizon but mine on the October update so I can root it I just got my replacement device it's new if you get your phone from Google warehouse in Carol il it's will be on October update
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jjayzx:
You've said this multiple times and your new, sounds like scammer.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Got my S8+ yesterday around 1030, got everything transferred (wanted to be same as pixel) and charged it up to full got around 4 1/2-5 hours SOT my guess because I didnt use for full day. Today used it as normal, fb, messenger spotify etc and was getting about what my Pixel does. Screen is amazing hands down. But I have already switched back to my Pixel. Just feels quicker to me yet even tho it didnt seem to lag or anything to me which I'm very picky with. Returned N7 3 times to test it against 6P and 6P won every time. As ugly as the Pixel is compared to it, I just couldnt stay away. My cousin is still using his N4, and asked how i liked it, told him for him it will prob feel like the greatest phone he's every touched but coming from Pixel XL to that I couldnt justify spending the money on it. The AKG earbuds were a nice addition to the phone and gonna be kinda sad to see them go because they were really comfortable for me, cant find a pair of earbuds that I like. All in all, I'm ready to see what Google can pull out for the Pixel 2 as I feel I'm stuck for Pixel for forceable future.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
Chill out, man.

what are you, 4 years old?

I saw a screenshot detached of any context, and I asked what it is.

It could be a comparison of CPU, GPU, network activity, or whatnot. I was interested to know.

Nothing more.

I thank you for the answer, but I do not appreciate your tone.

The mental age of this place is going down by the day.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Badazzmenc:
I'm not new I been on here for years I just forgot my email and password so I just made another one I got like four accounts on here and I ain't no scammer
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ithehappy:
Well if you take my tone in a wrong way then that's your problem. And completely agree on the XDA's age going down part.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] nabbed:
If you only care about the smoothness of the phone, you should probably get an iPhone - just like Pixel, it doesn't do much in terms of hardware and software, so it's even smoother than the Pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Nitemare3219:
Had my S8+ for almost a week now. I do find myself missing the Pixel XL I had. It was smoother. The S8+ doesn't lag hard, but it drops frames and just gives off the appearance of being laggy, even though it's really not, and it bothers me. I also really miss the fingerprint scanner on my Pixel XL which worked perfect every time. I rarely use the scanner on the S8+ because it's small and hard to reach. I also find that it's a lot more difficult to use the entire screen than it was on my Pixel XL, particularly reaching the top of the display. I also preferred the photos my Pixel would capture as they seemed slightly better at times, but it's really nitpicking comparing the 2.

With that said, there are still a lot of things I enjoy about the S8+. The display is fantastic, obviously. Wireless charging is neat, but not necessary to me. I enjoy having water resistance again. I enjoy the always on display. I love the design. I love the added features, and Samsung Pay.

The Pixel is really just as smooth as the iPhone.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] integraGSR:
I had a few Samsung back in the day myself and loved them. S2 was a great device. S3 was a big improvement and one of the best phones I had. Development was great! 2 1/2 years later I picked up the Nexus 6. Great device, loads of development. 2 years later and there is no signs of slowing down. Only thing is the battery has started to degrade. Picked up the Note 7 because I wanted a phone with a good camera. Liked the device but it was missing "wow" factor. Edge screen is a gimmick, to me at least, and would prefer a flat screen. TouchWiz has improved from the S2/S3 days but I still find myself being frustrated because of the "hiccups" here and there on the Note 7. My OCD I guess. Ended up going back to Nexus 6 before I had to give the Note 7 back. Currently have the Pixel XL. Nice device and there is no signs of slowing. Did wish the screen was a tad larger and the bezels would shrink. Otherwise its a amazing device.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thenessus:
Am I the only one satisfied with Pixel's bezel?

The bezels on the Sam8 are too thin for my taste.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] TheAnarchist1:
X D YOU MEAN THE BEZ XL

Just kidding...in all honesty the bezels hit me neutrally. I mean the lack thereof was neat while I was using the S8+ but returning to the Pixel XL hasn't really made me lament their presence either. I can't say I have ever really much understood or put much stock into the bezel(or less) wars. I mean it isn't that serious. Just another part of the phone. The same as all the other parts. Lol.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yea that was my problem as well, My cousin who has the Note 4 currently was asking me how I liked it. And I just basically said for you, you would love it because it would be such an upgrade for him. For me I couldnt justify keeping it at that price tag when I felt the Pixel was still faster and no hiccups ever. Only thing I can "complain" about on my Pixel is my battery but its because of the apps I run (FB, Messenger etc) that just eat away at it but messenger is how me and my friends communicate so I just deal with it. I am excited to see what Google has in store for the Pixel 2.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] guysalami:
These are all valid points. I'm considering switching over to an S8 although I do love the Pixel, there are a lot of great things going for the S8.

The S8 also has Knox which is largely underrated, can have secure and sandboxed applications as well giving access to secure parts of the OS that you couldn't touch otherwise without root like Adhell ad blocking.

Thanks for your input.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neverstopdroiding:
Why would you go from the S8 to the Pixel? I mean at least wait for the Pixel 2 jeez. Stock Android is nice, but no bezels are nicer.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thdaddy34:
The Samsung Galaxy S8 is a better built phone than the Pixel XL but these days, for me at least it's about software, and the Pixel just runs so much smoother than the S8. I used the S8 for a day or so and had to return it because of its frustrating lag. If you put vanilla Android on the S8 it would probably be the phone of the year.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] h4ck3r69:
Lmao I really enjoyed reading your post man..I even showed it to some people and made them laugh. Seriously man you said he is clearly a sammy fanboy but you are worse than him..if you want to defend your lovely pixel phone so bad, at least make some valid points..saying what normal person would want to check their heart rate and that it is going to get stored in their servers is just plain dumb..I think you need to read up more about the phone so you can start facing reality
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] 5.1:
Hello,

Is that everything a normally​ constituted human being finds to defend his statements?

Oh well... :(
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Did you read the rest of the post?

Is this real life?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
You know he is right though right?? I am returning my s8 plus and sticking with pixel because I believe pixel is a more solid phone
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] h4ck3r69:
That's your opinion..just don't be shoving your opinions in down's people's throat
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
correct and he has his opinion too
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] tttuning:
I will trade you straight up for my 128gb pixel XL if your on VZW
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Nitemare3219:
Count me as another going back to the Pixel XL coming from the S8+. Beautiful phone, but laggy trash as usual from Samsung.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] thdaddy34:
That's the problem with Samsung. They have the nicest designs and hardware but they just can't get the hardware right! Is it that hard? They just need to use vanilla Android and just develop regular apps...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
The hardware is close except fingerprint imo. It's the weird aspect ratio that doesn't work with anything and their software lags behind and this coming from somebody who's used every Galaxy and note since S3 and note 2. I tried my best to get behind the s8 but I cannot. Too much too get used too. Google doesn't make me feel like that. I seamlessly went from Nexus 6 to 6p to pixel. No weird adjustments just a normal phone lol
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] guysalami:
I also got the S8 and went back to the Pixel. For me they were really close overall each with their own strengths and weaknesses but as they were so close I couldn't justify the upgrade since the Pixel is just as good in it's own ways. That said if I was buying one or the other and didnt have my old Pixel to revert to I wouldn't be buying a new Pixel at today's prices. Value for money I think the S8 wins hands down. Not to mention the used values on Pixels seems to be dropping like a stone. I would however consider buying a used Pixel over a new S8 for the right price if I were in that predicament.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DirtydAmbrose:
The pixel XL will always win because you will get updates way faster with system updates being over 6 months before any Samsung anything would get them, and no lag no lag no lag lol.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Nit3H8wk:
S8 is junk

The problem with samsung phones atleast current models is while you get system updates. Touchwiz never gets updated and becomes extremely laggy. In the past when i had tmobile it wasn't an issue cause i could get around that with custom roms and custom recovery where devs updated and optimized touchwiz or ported touchwiz from more recent galaxy phones while now all galaxy phones are bootloader locked even on tmobile. My last samsung phone was a note 4 and the last samsung phone i will ever own. With the pixel xl i haven't really felt the need to mod as much besides an audio mod for my beats studio wireless headphones. Samsung is now nothing more than a cheap imitation of an iphone. With a locked bootloader you might as well just have an iphone.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] robstunner:
wait till android o beta program pushes next week and watch the fair weather fans scramble on swappa looking for a quick pickup.