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[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
* Especially since the OnePlus 3 hardware specs this last year were not even comparable to the ZTE Axon 7 -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p. OnePlus 3T (end of year update) was better, but still no 1440p AMOLED.

Yes, I can see a difference. If you want 1080p, there's a 100 companies selling 5.5" 1080p generic slabs. Go get one -- just don't tell me there's no difference. All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say. :rolleyes:

This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED with their OnePlus 5, so we'll see.

* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway. Put glass or ceramic back on the phone so we can have Qi wireless.

As for "improvements"? Besides Qi wireless, ZTE Axon 8 needs a BIGGER battery. 3250 mAh is not enough. I have a 3900 mAh battery on my 5.2" 1440p AMOLED Moto XT1225. This phone needs AT LEAST 4,000 mAh. Nobody is begging for credit card thin phones. Everybody wants a BIGGER battery.

Also, add backlighting to the capacitive buttons -- and space them wider apart.

* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.

ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:

https://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
I'm planning on buying a new smartphone Q4 2017.

I'm hoping there will be a ZTE Axon 8, so I can then weigh up against OnePlus 4/5 and Huawei Honor 9.

My understanding is that the ZTE Axon 7 is an excellent phone, so things are looking good.

For those of you not looking to upgrade from your Axon 7s, let hope the Axon 9 will be a beast (if you plan to upgrade after 24 month period).
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
Me too have top priority Axon 8 but meanwhile I will try Galaxy S8 while keeping current Axon 7.

As for what I want is AOD feature,improved camera performance(low light and video recording witch struggling right now) and if ZTE keep current form factor I would prefer bottom navigation button to be backlight

Also LED notification support more color than just red or green as today.

Of course keeping all the positive deliver today.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] musicman5844:
Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.

Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.

:confused:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] musicman5844:
Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Actually, read again:

"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"

As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
ZTE Axon 9. Likely to be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..

All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.

See this page (page 13):

https://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13

Specifically this post:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Aj-jss:
They've omitted stereo speakers on Axon7s.?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
Yes I’ve read this at V30 thread.

Well we shall see next month.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
That is cool. I can't wait. Now it down to OnePlus 5, ZTE Axon 9 or possibly waiting for Xiaomi Mi 7 in Q1 2018.

I'm hoping the Axon 9 will be a beast though. It will be a nice Christmas present :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
After having the Moto XT1225, which was about the best phone of 2014 (basically a 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6 but with a 3900 mAh battery), I'm ready to upgrade to something newer.

What I want is basically an updated Moto Nexus 6 or slightly better ZTE Axon 7. Except for size (too big) for me, the Nexus 6 had the perfect design philosophy and features. THAT is basically what I want --- a near zero bezel phone with "Nexus 6" type specs but UPDATED. Except for lack of Qi wireless charging (a must for me), I would have bought the ZTE Axon 7 last year.

1440p AMOLED,

front facing stereo speakers,

Qi wireless,

latest Snapdragon chipset,

tons of storage (at least 64GB, probably 128GB),

lots of RAM (forget 4GB, I want 6GB),

decent camera with hardware based rear OIS.

headset jack

IP 68 RATING,

unlocked bootloader

for extra points, a microSD card expansion port

No, the Nexus 6 didn't have all that (like IP68 and it wasn't zero-bezel by any means) -- but it had most of that list (or the equivalent in 2014 -- back then 3GB RAM is what 6GB would be today). And the frame was too big, which is why I never bought it and got the Quark (Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx XT1225, Droid Turbo XT1254, Moto Maxx XT1250) instead. But when you go zero-bezel, then a 5.95" display isn't so bad. It's what the LG V30 will be.

Right now, only LG V30 hits most of that list.

The only quibbles I have is no front facing stereo speakers, and I wish the battery was more like "4300" mAh rather than 3300 mAh. Optimize all you want, but give me a big battery first. THEN, optimize. ;)

Also, there were rumors the LG V30+ variant would have 6GB RAM in addition to 128GB internal storage, but turns out to not be true. Only difference in the LG V30 (64GB) and LG V30+ (128Gb) is the larger internal storage. I can live with that -- but with other OEM's going to 6GB for flagship, this is where LG could have stepped up in the specs race.

But if ZTE comes out with an updated ZTE Axon 9 and hits everything on that list, I would be sold.

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ZTE won't release a phone with WORSE specs than the ZTE Axon 7 as the successor to the fabulous ZTE Axon 7. But they will take their time to get it right... Here's the exchange for those who didn't read it:

ZTE AXON 9
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
The only problem is that metal bodies don't function well with Qi wireless, and most probably ZTE will continue using metal/aluminum in all their models. As for the others specs, I just expect an upgraded version of the Axon 7/7S.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
You are right in most of what you say, but I dropped my Axon 7 a couple of months ago because it seemed that ZTE didn't care about the device anymore, no updates, no news, the forums were dead... ZTE abandoned the community that it promised to support, even when they promised monthly updates, and the last update took almost 3-4 months to arrive.

I loved my Axon 7, I think is the best price/quality ratio phone I have ever had, but for most of the users, both in US and Europe, felt like if ZTE was just experimenting with us for a while, giving a lot of promotion, support and forums in the beginning, and then they abandoned all of this, not even any proper information from them, and the fact they divided Axon in 3 models didn't help either. If at least they could say something like "we are working on a new device", "we will slow down the updates because of a new project" or something similar, I think most of the users would feel better.

By no means the Axon 7 was a bad phone, as I said, is the phone I have loved and enjoy the most, but ZTE need to be constant with his promises and communications, because if they want to grow, they need the support of the consumers.

As for me, what I expect from the Axon 9 is an LG V30 with front facing speakers, which I think is my favorite device from this year so far. I was going to buy the V30, but I do not buy any phone that doesn't come with stereo speakers, which is a must for me.

:fingers-crossed:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
no updates? Just when MiFavor 5.0 has rolled out to the Chinese, and it's probably on the way for the other two? Hell it's even ported
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
We are talking about official updates and support, there's no need to talk about unofficial/ported things, because we can't rate a brand because of the unofficial development they have; if that would be the case, we could say that Google and OnePlus have the best support and updates.

Yes, MiFavor 5.0 rolled out a few weeks ago (with some problems), but we have to remember that the Axon 7 got released in China in May 2016, and the releases and software updates are managed differently than for the rest of the world. Usually when China gets the updates, the other versions would get them in around 2-3 months period. So far, ZTE has not given any information about Oreo, even when they promoted and sold the Axon 7 like if it had Nougat and was Daydream compatible since the beginning, when the truth is that we had to wait many months for it and finally when it came, we got crappy, buggy and ugly software that was not fixed until a couple of months ago.

As I said, my complain is not directly related to the phone or the updates, but to the lack of capacity to communicate and inform to the community about what's going on., something that many users could appreciate it, including myself. For example, If ZTE promised monthly updates for security patches and related bugs, and then I see that in a 2-3 months period I'm getting nothing, some statement from them is needed.

Communication with the customer is the most important thing when you are trying to compete in the big leagues, and they started with this nice approach of having meetings, forums and sessions with the customers to get feedback, but as time passes, it seems they are getting far away from this and sadly they will end like any other company out there.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I think that after seeing Apple's presentation, I would get the iPhone X even when my whole life I have been an iPhone hater, that's the right way to do stereo speakers with bezel-less phone.

So far the V30 was my favorite choice, but not having stereo speakers is a dealbreaker for me, besides the fact that Apple gives 4 years support and updates.

Of course this can change, because we still have the Pixel 2 and the Mate 10 presentations, my top favorite was the Huawei 10 Pro, because I have been using the Mate 9 Pro for a couple of months now and i'm delighted, and I only hope that the Mate 10 can get some similar approach to the iPhone X.

So far ZTE will face a hard competition in the last part of the year with all these new generation of bezel-less phones.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
Looking forward to what materialises. Keep us informed :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
I really really doubt will ever see successor of Axon 7 this month.

The only released from ZTE was nubia Z17S and nubia Z17 miniS.

How come we didn’t here any even one leaks for upcoming Axon 8?

Usually before announcing anything from any kind OEM we heard rumors weeks or even months before.

But that’s not happening to ZTE and future plan on it.

So from my view there’s no gone be any successor for Axon 7 at least for 2017.

Maybe next year most of the chance.

There’s no point of releasing a device with 835 any more since we are only 2-3 months before Qualcomm announces the 845 SOC.

Better ZTE start preparations and working from now for a spring release 2018 with newest SOC.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] gecko702:
android authority mentioned that ZTE is working on a axon foldable phone
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
I’ve heard that but that’s NOT successor of Axon 7.

It’s total different category device.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Machiav3lli:
Axon Multy(SD821) is said to be a new Line for ZTE

In the coming couple of days (17. Oct to be exact) ZTE will announce the Multy, all along with some other phone/s

While most of news agrees that Multy shall be At&t exclusive for 650$ ?, talking about the "other phone/s" some news predicts that should be another phone from the Axon series, and some other say that'll be a phone from the Hawkeye project
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It's snapdragon 820 with 1080p.

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Right. Not even worth talking about.

The new president of global ZTE who was promoted in April, and was the North American president before that, allegedly had them redesign the ZTE AXON 9 (skipping the "8"), to be the zero bezel look like the LG and Samsung and iPhone X. Remember the LG G6 and Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ had already been released when he was promoted. Plus there were already leaks of the iPhone X at that point.

Takes time to redesign a flagship phone.

Was rumored to be announced in October, but apparently taking longer.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xShottaZx:
ZTE Axon M(ulty)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] gecko702:
Hoping they make more than one axon like tye axon 9 and the m a whole line of axons im wishing the new one is ip rated and wireless charging and keeping the stereo speakers
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
I hope it comes no later than Q1 2018 (please be true), otherwise its highly likely I will get the rumoured OnePlus 5T by then (OnePlus 5 stocks are running out).
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] front firing speakers:
I think zte should copy. the Google pixel 2 xl design. only with smaller bezels..
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
i guess this same design but with a screen that covers the entire black bezels and sensors below the plastic would be pretty okay tbh
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Sub-Negro:
Not even worth my time. I am all for innovation and **** but ZTE has released a boatload of cheap devices this year and when they get to this flagship device it's the Multy and it's an ATT exclusive. Could've slappen in an SD835 and given us the 7S instead.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
-They always release a boatload of cheap devices, that's why they are one of the biggest OEMs - and they should, what's the harm in that?

-The 7S exists and uses the SD821, and has 2 cameras. not that it's worth the hassle of buying it from China even if that's possible

-the Multy is supposedly a parallel line to the main Axon flagship stuff

-If you want an SD835 flagship just buy a Nubia
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
After seeing the Axon M, I can say that ZTE already lost its momentum and they are so lost and desperate in order to come with any device that they can sell.

ZTE is really idiot for focusing in stupid projects like the Axon M instead of focusing in the successor of the Axon 7, people don't want plegable phones now, they want phones with small bezels.4 and nice specs, and they are willing to pay for them.

:confused:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
Do you really believe that the high-end market is a priority for ZTE? It had the same market share than LG, Alcatel, and other OEMs through AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint last year. That's not taking the Axon 7 into the equation, because they don't sell it through carriers.

Did the axon 7 sell anything on the US? This was actually the market for which the axon 7 was designed. They wanted to enter the US high-end market for once, or so they said.

The percentage of unlocked phones that are sold in the US is estimated at 12%. Half of that are online sales. I don't know the figures but i think this particular phone is cheaper on newegg than on stores, if they actually sell these (370 on newegg right now), so, let's say that the Axon 7 purchases belong mostly to the 6% online sales. That's around 10M sales in 2016 for all OEMs. So, how many Axon 7s do you think they sold? 2% of that? Maybe even less?

I don't think they have any pressure tbh
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Sub-Negro:
That is the issue where is the other Axon stuff at? And you know damn well that buying a phone from different region means more than likely my country will not have those LTE bands.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
They simply don't care. They figured out they would not generate enough revenue to justify selling the 7S elsewhere probably.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Pruikki:
I think that Next thing after axon 7 is not going to come anytime soon. BUT

if they ever need or want to have high end phones or so, it is Still on the table.

they just have very chinese way of doing things... they rather earn more today and not think about tomorrow... no long term thinking,thats all.

i dont see axon 8 coming anytime soon. perhaps in 2018,yes, but cant know when. its not even in development yet.

(Axon 7 is still not perfected in software...)

Cheers!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
OnePlus 5T looks as though its coming, so all we can do is hope :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Pruikki:
Yes, it will have the whole "rounded" theme going on.

The 2k display on it will be sweet!

also hope it will kepp the headphone jack, i think it will

Cheers ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
I read it was gonna be a 2160x1080 display (even though nobody wants to call it a 1080p display, it kind of is)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
If you mean the OnePlus 5T, yes it's only 1080p. "Full HD". They don't care about having the highest specs. They sell by hype, not actual top tier specs.

In resolution specs you always go by the lowest number, not the highest.

Like the LG V30 is 2880 x 1440, so it's 1440p.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
Tomorrow HTC U11+ is being unveiled. I'm sure it will be nice.

In a few weeks i'm guessing OnePlus 5T will be unveiled. I'm sure it will be nice also.

What is the hope that Axon 8/9 is unveiled before Christmas or indeed Q1 2018 ?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
After watching Axon M fail, I think they will release another device until April/May.

:good:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] awsomjgp:
Fail? it hasn't even been available but half a day. No regular consumer has had time to hold it, let alone use the device.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
You can see all the pre-reviews and hands on already, and everybody is saying is a fail and useless feature, there is no reason to put 2 screens with a big bezel in the middle, besides you have a lot more energy consumption with relatively small battery capacity.

ZTE lost its way and is desperate to bring something to the table, even ridiculous gimmicks like this one.

:silly:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xRogerxC:
Funny you asked about the next Axon smartphone, just saw this article on Android Authority: https://www.androidauthority.com/zte-working-axon-7-successor-811801/
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
Hopefully it will be ready early 2018 :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
https://www.gsmarena.com/zte_confirms_axon_7_will_have_a_successor-news-28087.php

:);):rolleyes:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Too little, too late...

If they want to be competitive, they would need to get the new Snapdragon that probably would be presented in December, otherwise they would be "out" of the market.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Note 8 doesn't have the new Snapdragon, nor does the new Pixels or OnePlus 5T.

That's the competition. Even the 2018 LG G7 may not have new Snapdragon

You forget the price point ZTE had for the ZTE AXON 7. I would buy a ZTE AXON 9 (they're skipping 8), with a Snapdragon 835/6GB RAM, stereo speakers, quad DAC, QHD display for $400-$500, if they added Qi wireless charging.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Yes, they don't have it, because those are phones that are already in the market, but what's the point in releasing new phones with old processors?.

The only thing I would be expecting is a Pixel 2 XL alike with half the price.

;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It's not an old processor yet. It's still the current processor. ;)

And you saw my comment about their Axon 7 price point, right? I wouldn't expect anything over $500. Not quite 50%, but very close.

And with quad DAC and headset jack and (hopefully) Qi wireless charging, will have BETTER specs than Pixel 2 XL.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
Well as you know Samsung will get first batch of 845 until end of April/earlier May and NO ONE OEM will be able to release any kind flagship that period IMO.

On the other hand the difference between 835 Vs 845 would be much less than between 820 Vs 835

845 would also manufacture with same 10nm architecture as 835.

So from that aspect doesn't matter if release earlier 18.

I was thinking for Mate 10 Pro or HTC U11 plus for successor of my Axon 7 for Christmas purchase but if ZTE gone released within 2 months I can wait a bit longer.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I meant, with the same design somehow, with nice display aspect ratio, small bezels but keep the front facing speakers.

;)

I'm exactly on the same boat, between the Mate 10 Pro and the new U11 + which looks really promising.

:D
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
OnePlus 5T is not already on the market.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You're saying exactly what I'm saying. ZTE will take care of the design. Don't worry about that.

With the 2017 LG, Samsung, Google phones and even iPhone X out there, ZTE isn't delaying this one just to push out an outdated design. That's WHY it's been delayed.

The only thing we are disagreeing on is you think the Snapdragon 835 is "old", but it is not. Nothing newer will be released for another six months.

Even then it would have the same Snapdragon the Pixel 2XL and OnePlus 5T has.

835 is "next gen" processor. Yes, it was worth waiting for. But 845 is not.

If you keep waiting for the "next" processor, you'll always be waiting.

The only reason I didn't buy the ZTE AXON 7 was lack of Qi wireless charging. So, I would love it on the ZTE AXON 9.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] paatha13:
Well indeed the 2 device seems very promising and meet almost 90% of my needs for new flagship smartphone and as successor of Axon 7.

First detail review of Mate 10 Pro is very very promising and tempting I can say by Notebook check btw IMO.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-Mate-10-Pro-Smartphone-Review.261376.0.html

We shall see what going to do eventually.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
The HTC doesn't have headphone jack nor Qi wireless charging, does it?

I don't know about the Mate because I don't care about it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Neither of those on HTC and also in Mate 10 Pro.

:confused: