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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] newuser888:
The overall sense I feel from reading the post is most have no negative feeling toward Athena as a phone.

Spacecat just want to twist the picture to suit his liking:D

His poll question, on the face of it means A and B answers are postive answers. The BIG PROBLEM with response B is that there are actually TWO completely different responses embedded in it. The first part of the response, OK usually means I have no problem with the phone although it may not be the best phone in the world. The second part of response B means "I don't know" or "not a crap, but not fantastic either". Spacecat, why don't know do this poll again with these answers:

Question: Taking into account all the phone related capabilities (such as reception, technology innovation, size, integration) and the fact that one has the choice of using bluetooth headset, how do you rate Athena as a phone?

A. Outstanding

B. Above average

C. Average

D. Below Average

E. Fail

I'm sure your result will be very different.

Eaglesteve, you obviously have very strong feeling that this is quite a good phone. I'm surprised that you voted B and not A.:confused:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eaglesteve:
My okay really means it may not be the best phone in the world, but it's still very good. I read post 1 and interpret the meaning differntly from spacecat. Anyway, why not you start a new poll?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] athenalover:
I've created a thread to re-poll this question in a more neutral fashion.

Everyone, please cast your vote here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1832515#post1832515
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Janis:
It works better than my wizard

Frankly, I felt a little odd, at first, holding my Tmo MDA to my head when I first got it, because everyone said it was a little bit big, so I got hooked on BT. I've gotten to the point where much of the day the actual unit is just sitting around somewhere, and with voice dial, I think of my headset as my phone. Certainly solves the "too big" problem.... (Anything men think is too girly but isn't drag is probably attactive to a lot of women. Have some balls; get a high-end man bag.)

In comparison to most phones: Who can complain about 3mp pics? And having any qwerty keyboard for texting is a must for me now. I miss not being able to hold the unit easily by the keyboard, though.

The speaker phone on my x7501 is well used, too. I can't imagine a better way to keep families a little more cohesive than to say "oh, sorry, I don't have anything but speaker." heh, heh. I love it. It sounds great, and I can use it in my Subaru without anyone complaining. (Subarus are known for their cab noise).

Maybe it's radio ROM, but it gets calls I think my wizard wouldn't have.

As a phone, I say thumbs up. Now, if I could get the microdrive, some 3rd party soft, and the 128dpi to behave....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] athenalover:
Hi Janis,

Nice post and point of view. Would you mind also casting your vote in this thread please? Thanks.

http://xdaforums.com/show...15#post1832515
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] joohan:
From Qtek 2020 to Athena same errors

I cannot avoid reflecting over the poor phone functions in Windows Mobiles. I use my Athena extensively for e-gprs surfing. I did it as well with my old qtek 2020 many years ago. Both have the same problem: calls gets redirected to the answering service! It does not happen all the time. But many times a day. People have suggested it has to do with the network provider, but I don't think so. Nokias works well on the same network. I belive that the phones are so complicated, and runs so many services, that the basic phone functionality is as stable as normal pc services (not reliable).

To plague me even more, is the need to use a headset. The bluetooth headset of mine (ver 1.2) cannot connect reliably to the phone. Every so often it neglects to connect, especially when I receive calls. Very annoying. I have been using the Athena for 7 months, and will in the future only use it as a surfing device. No more calls on it.

I would assume that most people here in the forum, uses the Athenas phone functions rather little. It will be interessting to see if the Sony Ericsson X1 will get stable phone functions.

//Johan
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
I had two athenas and with each one I had sound problems when using the built in speakerphone. Perhaps it was my stubble rustling on the casing, or perhaps I was extremely unlucky. I had a bluetooth headset and a pair of sony ericsson bluetooth earbuds for handling calls, but I never found this convenient and didn't like having them around my neck or on my ear all the time.

Call handling was the primary reason I got rid of my Athena for good after seven months. Other people don't seem to have any problems though so sometimes I wonder if I just dreamed up all my problems!

To be fair when it came to call handling on my Hermes and on my Universal I had frequent problems of crashes and glitches when answering calls so I'ts more than likely a universal problem with windows mobile than the fault of the Athena. Like I said though, other people seem to be problem-free so maybe I'm deceiving myself and there weren't any problems at all. I still have my Hermes for certain applications but now have a Nokia E90 which is much better for call handling and texting than the Athena and has a fabulous widescreen for watching movies. It has a better camera, better video recording and a dual-screen layout which not only protects the larger display but allows full access to all applications, automatically switching dimensions and orientation when the lid is opened. It has bluetooth EDR too so I can either use bt or WIFI (with Joikusoft) to tether my HSDPA connection to my laptop.

There's great voice command features - it even reads your text messages out - and built in premium Quickoffice software, a PDF viewer, a push email wizard, live messenger with Hotmail

I do miss the touchscreen though, and there are certain applications I'd like on the E90 that are ony currently available on the E90. Suppose it works both ways though.

I'll take a look at the Athena's upgrade in the future and if they've ironed out the glitches i'll consider it, but at the moment I wouldn't go back.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] toyfreak:
There's no subtle way to put it... The speakerphone in the Athena SUCKS! It works fine in quiet environments but I defy anyone with an Athena to attempt a conversation with someone in a noisy place, like a nightclub. This is impossible without a headset.

The speakers and microphone seem to be interfering with one another. I have tried covering the microphone with my finger while not talking, covering the left speaker (nearest the microphone) etc. with no success.

The solution is simple: If the Athena is your primary (or in my case only) phone a BT headset is a necessity. I have a Motorokr S9, a scala500, an LG Style-I, and a Jabra BT-8010. I keep them all charged up and use whatever best fits the occasion.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
maybe im not the only one who thinks that the Athena is pretty naff as a phone then. If it weren't for my problems with the speakerphone i genuinely wouldve kept my athena, but complaints were frequent and i couldnt stand having a headset in, or on standby all the time. I found it gave me a headache; and i also work with an electrosensitive so i felt it wise to curb my bluetooth usage where possible.

The touted upgrade for the Athena annoys me: all the technology within it is old news and could easily have been integrated by HTC in the first place. why didn't they integrate a touchflo menu with a HTC Touch style cube? I think the original Athena was half-baked, ill-conceived and should have been subsidised as a testers' device: htc put very little effort into its implementation and now decide to release an update which basically does what the original Athena SHOULD have done. I hope they offer a part-trade to Athena owners to make up for their negligence, and perhaps offer some of the developers on here jobs: they seem to have their heads screwed on more than their own bods.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] johnwalk:
Quite agree, My year is up with the ameo, now tmobile have sent me a lovely mda touch plus, soon got used to the size, and just to be able to slip it into your pocket without your trousers falling down is bliss.

but i must admit i miss the size of the screen especially at work, I might not have loved the ameo as a phone, but as a pda, its the dogs bollocks as far as im concerned, I will love and cheris it until somthing decent comes out.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
I'm using a Nokia E90 Communicator and I really like it, though i'm due a contract upgrade in a few months and i'm considering another Windows Mobile device. The only thing putting me off is that they all (including the Athena) have basically rubbish cameras unless used in daylight, with poor video recording functionality. This coupled with the graphics accelerator problems on most HTC devices is putting me off for now. Unfortunately Nokia is the only major manufacturer not to have stepped into the Windows Mobile arena with any of their devices - meaning we'll never see a touchscreen N95 8gb with Windows Mobile. Shame really as for me this would be the perfect device for me and would utilise all the windows mobile apps that i'm not making the most of at the moment....
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris-red:
My Friend gave me an S5 to fix. When you turned it on it would give some message about not loading the OS. I downloaded Odin and what I believe is the correct stock ROM SM-G900F O2 UK.

I managed to install the ROM fine however the screen has totally died. The phone wasn't dropped or anything. I can boot into Recovery and into the OS. Pressing the home button 3 times gives me audio description of the OS.

The screen does not even turn on to show the boot logo. I tried reinstalling the ROM (I had to get into recovery blind) but no joy. It's like a hardware issue however that seems too much of a co-incidence to have had it happen at the same time as flashing the ROM. The colour LED lights up and the side buttons light and vibrate.

Any ideas how to fix? All the blank screen stuff I've found via google the boot logo still shows.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vincom:
side button lights? are you sure you have an s5 g900x
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Youdoofus:
im betting he's referring to the capacitive buttons flanking the home button
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris-red:
Yeah I'm sure on the the phone is a G900F, I'm referring the side buttons. Any ideas? Can a ROM flash kill the screen totally?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ReDResident:
Hi, i'm about to root my Honor 8, with your tool, and I ask my self: How maintain my phone ?

My phone is under Android 7, And EMUI 5.1

I don't know if after the root, he can work as far as a non rooted phone.

How I can update it if a new version of Adroid or EMUI comes out ?

What should I do with ?

To conclude, I wan't root it, but i need some informations before. (working, updates, ...)

P-S: I'm using those tutorials to root my phone:

How to Root Honor 8 and Install TWRP and Xposed (xdadevelopers)

How to Unlock Bootloader on Honor 8 (xdadevelopers)

Is it good or not? Tell me. :)

Thanks to read / answer this thread.

ReDResident
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] johnhux7:
Please ask yourself why are you wanting to root your phone ,??

There is no stable custom ROMs for us to use.

Why root your phone just for the sake of it ???
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] mali76:
Any s8 apps ported for android 6.0.1 ?

SM-G935F cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Xode:
How easy is this :o ... an example ;) ... click HERE :D
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
These are the whole firmwares to be flashed independently. No need to do 7 before 711.

Anyone that uses this to upgrade the Chinese phone to Nougat please post how you did it. There are many waiting for a solution.

I copied the whole Mac directory for 711. There are many support files there and a backup & restore apk which will not work stand-alone.

From Mac upgrade assistant.

I zipped the folder from: User/library/application support/.msu/addison_verizon_oem_vzw_user_7.0_NDNS25.137-24-1-4_4_release-keys-cid2_vzw

March patch.

BTW it updates without any data wipe or option to data wipe if you wanted to! Via the assistant that is.

Unlike Moto's recommendations, go figure...

BTW, BTW

Anyone know if apps can be extracted from a FXZ?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
I only used this from the upgrade assistant and it did not wipe any user data.

There were some fastboot files (and such) in the .msu folder but when I went back later to show hidden files on wifes El Capitan msu was gone. I was at risk of great peril messing with wifes Mac. My Lion will not run it.

How it it working for everyone?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
Request,

Could some kind soul upload Nougat apps (and privapps) from a Z and Z force?

I use them as fake apps in the Play, a way of disabling sys apps.

Root is not needed, more if you need help

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3584051
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
7.1.1 is posted in OP.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] St.Noigel:
Hello )

Nice to see you on Moto Z Play thread )

Just flashed VZW 7.1.1 to my chineeese Moto )

Works great )
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
You have one of these? See here https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Play/XT1635-03-Update-to-Android-7/td-p/3694969

If so, get over there and tell them what you did!

:cowboy:

Or post it here and I will post a notice there.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] St.Noigel:
Yes. ) I have 1635-03. (3 / 64)

Bootloader unlocked OFFICIALY. I just run bat file from "MSU.fastboot_addison_verizon_oem_vzw_user_7.1.1_NDN26.118-23_22_release-keys" OS - Windows 10 x64. It works nice.. ) Without any issues. But - most chineese phones came with unofficial unlocked BL... and I don`t sure about them.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] aviwdoowks:
Do you know if these non original MM retla or what ever firmware they have, could do the same as you did?

Gearbest is one retailer that passes these as normal phones.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/Moto_Z_Play/thread-id/4051/page/9# see near the middle.

Yekollu is the poster.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] St.Noigel:
Yekollu was particle right, but if we unlock bootloader on 1635-03 we can easy flash fw for other region on our phones.

I think they have retail, flashed by Gearbest and - if they have unlocked bl - they can flash any other region's ROM with RSD LITE. BUT I THINK - if they Don't wanna to have bricks - they must flash FW only with RSD lite.. )

---------- Post added at 09:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 AM ----------

By the way - if people just want to have 7.1.1 - it will be better for them - to flash TWRP and any custom ROM with it.

Anyway - they will not get OTA update on any custom stock based ROMs. And it will be better for them- don't try to sideload OTA via ADB.

---------- Post added at 09:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 AM ----------

If people want pure stock they can just

flash with RSD lite any FW from here

I tried it all ))
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] SLR96:
Hi, I have a XT1635-03 on retcn channel, my device is encrypted, I have the dual sim version it runs on android 6.0.1, I've never rooted it and I'm not planning to... I have a few questions and I would be very thankful if you could answer them:

1)do you have the dual sim version? do both sims work fine after the update?

2)did you flash the rom straight from 6.0.1?

3)are there any issues like with camera, notification sound, swipe to shrink screen,...?

4)why do you suggest for the Chinese version users to flash a stock based custom rom with TWRP? it doesn't give you update capability or factory reset option!

5)is there a specific way to unlock the bootloader "officially"?

6)what's with the bat file you talked about? (sorry I'm kind of a noob)

7)the link you mentioned doesn't have the 7.1.1 version... isn't it better to flash the rom provided on this thread?

I'm sorry to ask this many questions... thanks in advance
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] St.Noigel:
1. I have dual SIM version. Both sim cards works perfectly

2. At first I flash a lot of AOSP / LOS based ROMs ))

3. I have no any issues.

4. If you ll try to get OTA - you could have brick. So - don't use updates.

5. Yes. Just Google it

6. It's flash(or something like).bat - file in archive.

7. I'm taking about this ROM. It will be better and more safety to flash it for newbies.

You can also try ROM from this thread, but it have to many Verizon apps..
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] SLR96:
thanks so much for the help...

so if I flash the rom from this thread and try to update it later, I'll probably have risk of a hard brick, is that correct?

I only prefer this rom compared to one you mentioned because this one here is "stock", it's more reliable, and I don't need to install TWRP... so considering these, tell me if it's still better for me to flash the stock based custom rom from "flashallthtime" (the one you mentioned)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] crystalpepe:
Hey Guyz,

Is it possible to just switch the logicboard of the H840 and Upgrade it to a much Faste normal "LG G5" version?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] crystalpepe:
answers please
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] 3dd1:
I saw an article where an LG Nexus 5X was upgraded to 4gb of RAM and another where one was upgraded to 64gb ROM so I'd say anything is possible
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] penguinjoe:
LG G5 H840 is kinda like a G5 mini in that it has a lower-end Snapdragon 652 processor and only 3GB memory compared to a *real* G5 that has the Snapdragon 820 and 4GB memory. LTE bands supported are also quite different. Beyond those two really bid differences they lo the same.

You can't change between them a simple hardware mod. You would need to totally replace the motherboard (which should be possible if you have access to the parts and the skills to do it.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] crystalpepe:
Thats what i actually did, ordered one from aliexpress half a year ago for like 40$ 850 one, worked like a charm, till i broke it 2 weeks ago while repairing my homebutton.

So yes guyz, just order a logicboard from aliexpress and you can use it as the "big" one plus you have acces to all the customroms.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] crystalpepe:
plus please quote the processor right.

The 200 series of snapdragon is low end, the 400 series is midrange, the 600 series is higher midrange to high tier and the 800 series is highend. ( obviously all just counts for the series and release dates like a 652 is high tier versus a 830 that is high end or a 425 is midrange vs a 652 witch is high midrange to high tier ).
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] asomasotaso:
you need to replace the motherboard. camera and etc. peripherals can stay but the motherboard is what defines the version, memory, storage etc.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eggstones:
Is there a way of getting my books i bought for my iPad transferred to my tablet? I can't even figure out how to get them to my pc.

I HATE iTunes.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vshapke:
Not directly, but you can do this:

http://www.tuneskit.com/ibook-tips/read-ibooks-on-android.html
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eggstones:
Thanks. I'll try that.
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] zayidhs:
Top work ???
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] k_rango:
Good job...:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rudolpht:
Nice. Thanks.
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] audioralf:
Good summary.

Add the supersu SuperSU-v2.79-MATE9-init.d_support.zip.

This is the method to get busybox and viper4android installed, for they use fix paths of supersu.

My device: Mate 9 supersu b156 Mediapad X2 GEM 701->703 B212 KangVIP (AJ mod)
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Peppus:
Hi saurabhg9, I just starting reading you incredible Mate 9 summary guide and had to stop only to say that I simple love the way you explain everything, so simple, so clear, so useful... Thanks a lot for you to share your refreshing capsules, they are just the medicine my Mate 9 and I needed! :good::good::good:

Going back to continue the treatment!

Edit to ask for a little help... Recently I installed the L09C432B181 using Funky services and used it rooted by THIS method and all was going fine. Then I decided to give a try to RomAur but went back to stock restoring system and data. All well apart from root, so I rerooted flashing the 3 zips again but no way to get proper root back. It works but doesn't ask permission any more, the log is empty and it ask for binaries update in each boot. My main reason for root is to control the phone with gestures but only one of the commands of GMD app works.

I tried your 2.-Reset due to major issues using the twrp backup system and data without any result. Tried also the root superuser-r275.zip from the last section with no success either.

Tried as a last option spend another Funky credit in the B182 but always get the same "getting package info failed" error, what should be happening?

Any idea? Maybe extract a clean system and flashing it by adb (edit: tried but get "target reported max download size 471859200 bytes" error)?

Thanks again!
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurabhg9:
Thanks Peppus!

Sounds like you might need a clean start for your phone and do a "full reset".

In order to do that, I suggest doing a clean stock install of C432B138 using FF and then update to B156.

After that you could unlock the bootloader and root. This will atleast give you a clean base to start with for further experimenting depending on where you would like to go from there.
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] 5[Strogino]:
Epic work, but there are too many things which are absent and can cause mess up knowledge.

No info about MHA-AL00

No info how hard to unlock bootloader on MHA-AL00

No info what is difference between simple root and root with additional functional like dm-verity...

And more, and more....

P.s. I don't want to blame, cause I know that it is too hard to gather information from thousands threads.
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurabhg9:
Thanks for the feedback!

I really wish there was a "wiki" functionality at XDA, so guides such as these could be developed with the joint knowledge of its members.

Unfortunately, that is also reflecting above, where most of the content is based on my own personal experience and what I have learnt in past few days based from various threads. and what works for me.

If you could provide me the specific text to be updated above (in regards to the things that you mentioned above), I would gladly add it :)

I am sure lot of others, including me would benefit from such.

Cheers!

Saurabh
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Peppus:
Hi, that is what Audioralf recommended me and I was trying to avoid but I think it is the only option I have now. Thanks for your interest :good:
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurabhg9:
Yes - clean scratch install is good!

I do mine at far lesser problems than yours :)
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Peppus:
By the way, does anybody know which is the latest build installed in a L09C432? by Firmware Finder? Thanks!
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] saurabhg9:
My good guess would be for b138, since the version numbers for L29 and L09 are quite similar at least for the c432 region.

Try doing a FF install for L09C432B138. Then partial update using FF to 156, if you are not prompted by system update automatically