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[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] qtoo941:
Everybody who owns the european model (L09/L19) is struggling with the same issue. New update popped up in FF and yet nobody is able to flash it. #JustHuaweiThings
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I tried a bunch of stuff on my L04 with three button flash method and they all fail at five percent for me too.

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Can anyone tell what months security update this one includes? If like OK Google to work and people's battery issues addressed, but basic security updates are my top priority. Of course, I am not having battery problems.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
April's security update. I forget where I pulled that from, I think it's in one of the props from the initial ramdisk.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0zE1Kk8sIB6UDc3SzlBakYyV0k
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yalokiy:
It could be a "beta" release. In FF database, the B360 update first appeared on 2016.12.30, but public release happened on 2017.02.13 - two and a half month later.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
in the FF Q&A section is states that authetification problems could be due to whitelisting...perhaps disconnecting from internet or going into airplane mode once the update downloads but before the install starts could do the trick? At work again with slow internet so can't try it myself at the moment :(
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
It's certainly possible, but if this were the case it shouldn't fail in TWRP.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] danybaq:
Same problem on FRD-L04

I downloaded b385 update from FF and i have the same problem. We'll have to wait. Thanks huawei...
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
tried it after unzipping and through recovery, engineering and 3 button mode it failed all the time
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
It seems ppl on another variant of the Honor 8 have had success using the rollback pkg (http://www.hihonor.com/us/support/details/index.html?DOC_ID=92098) to go back and then upgrading to B38* using the FF method. Will try when I get home tonight but anyone else wants to give it a shot feel free....
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Good luck, let us know what happened
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
didn't work. I used the rollback pkg, then flashed B140 and tried to update but still wouldnt verify.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yalokiy:
Someone could try to flash rollback package (http://www.hihonor.com/us/support/de...l?DOC_ID=92098) on B360, then without flashing older release, flash the B385. I think the small rollback package is just removing the verification, so it might work.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
I did try that....no go.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Guys I messaged Honor USA about the new update and the status of EMUI5.1. Let's see if they respond.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
And this is the response I got :silly:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] i2000s:
I also contacted honor_usa team, EMUI 5.1 will be available to honor 8 phones in US. I was asking about available time, but no response yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Yup they did the same for me as well. They did sort of confirm that we'll get EMUI 5.1 but didn't tell when it will be available.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Maybe they are sending out beta testing phones via Facebook with Emui 5.1 installed ??. Those who signed up on the Honor beta Facebook page would understand.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] i2000s:
I applied for the honor beta team as I was doing those things for Honor 5X. So far, no message received from the company yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
Add one more to the list; I tried using DC-Phoenix to push the update through. Everything seemed to go well except on reboot my PIN didn't work. I had to go into google device manager and do a remote wipe, but ended up with the same thing where developer options are inaccessible and it still shows B360.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SolarisSixth:
It's probably only whitelisted for the beta testers. I wanted to apply since I was a Blackberry beta tester before, but they don't accept Canada. :P

Which is funny because Canada is one of Huawei'd biggest markets. But oh well.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
I friggin wiped my SD card by accident too. All my music/pictures gone. Recovery process seems to be going well so far though, thank God. Be careful with experimenting!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] helfrez:
I am personally very skeptical of the whole Facebook group. It is quite possibly just a marketing stunt, much like they pulled here on XDA. The clock is ticking for me and Huawei. When they first announced that Honor would work with the community and focus on being open, I was very very impressed. Had the followed through, it would have seriously made Huawei my goto upgrade and recommendation. Alas, when was the last time we saw the "reps" that were here on xda pre-release and for nougat testing...where is the kernel source...

It seems like a vicious cycle we are all stuck in...and buy a Pixel isn't always the answer because quite frankly, stock android can be a bit boring lol.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Christopher876:
Same here man. Wonderful phone I have to agree with, but I am kind of not in the same boat anymore with Huawei anymore. I was planning to buy just their phones as my phone I carry around, but quite frankly, I just can't see myself doing that anymore, they don't communicate with us well. The US version always behind compared to the other ones and does not even receive security updates much either. They lied about the kernel sources and then lied about the collaboration with XDA. Honestly, once I see the Moto z play 2 come out then the ship will be gone for Huawei.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
The response the guy got last page is boilerplate....

Since nobody can get 385 to work, aside from bricking their phone, I think it's safe to assume it doesn't.

The Facebook Beta thing is testing whatever they're calling this year's Honor 8 that they'll announced the same time this phone was last year (Computex in June?). I have a "pending post" to that group from two or three weeks ago asking if we'll get an update soon for the Honor 8 that I'm sure they'll approve any month now.

Huawei only seems to support phones for a few months until they have a new one coming out and then drops support to develope for that instead. I'm not sure what the Axon 7 support is like at this point, but I regret not going with that or three One Plus. I've heard One Plus has terrible customer service too, but they have updates and a community at least.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] i2000s:
I never believe a company is built to serve people well on what customers want, not even to advance the technology. Their focus is to make money from people. I think that is the nature of any commercial companies--including Huawei, Google, Sony, OnePlus, Apple, Facebook, etc. They are "willing" to provide customer services and promote new technologies is only when that can maximize their profits. As a consumer and a semi-tech guy, I am more to do two things: one, throw money to whoever provides a high performance/cost-ratio product; two, find opportunities to work directly with the manufacturers and designers so that my voice heard once I have decided to own a product of some brand. Those customer service representatives most likely to be just a third-party service provider who has zero connection to the manufacturers/designers other than profit relationships. Even Apple sell their authorizations to some so-called "Apple Stores" to repair your device or do customer service things. What people heard most from those people are things like "you need to replace XX", "XX is completely broken" or "we don't have any information on when the next update will be released" which are harmful or useless for consumers but good for those people to make money or push the responsibilities away. They may not even borther to report the phone problems to the manufacturers and developers, because if they do, they may have fewer customers.

I was really pushing those big companies to release their software as open-source or asking them to use real open-source OS's like Ubuntu Touch as what I have done to ZTE, OnePlus, Huawei, Samsung and others, but for so many times, the commercial model didn't favor my preference; what's worse, some of those open-source OS's even died recently because of lack of profits in competing with closed-source counterparts. If you look closely, Huawei have shared their EMUI source codes online, but I don't know how long this will last. At this moment, I feel the beta group is the last chance to closely interact with the phone developers for future releases. I have successfully participated in the Honor 5X project and they really shipped a new phone to me for free. But if it's a Fake News for the Honor 8 beta group, I will just find another small company and try again once it's time to retire my current device. BTW, I have zero success rate over super-big companies like Apple and Google, they are too big to listen to customers while enjoying their complete ecosystems making money for them in an easy way. I think we need time to let general consumers learn it in a hard way that transparency is good for us in the end, and we should form a new culture for being served better.

Appreciate if you have better strategies to play the game in a more interesting way!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] helfrez:
I am probably going to swing back over to OnePlus soon. I have had a slew of devices, current have the Honor 8, LG V20, and just shipped out my SM-G930U...see the pattern? All amazing devices, with piss poor support from the companies and community. You can get away with one, but not both. I am ok with slow sources and such, if updates are coming regularly to address issues. I can also live with veryr very slow updates, if sources are coming regularly and in a USABLE fashion. Oneplus tends to get one or the other right based on how new the device is. Case in point, everything short of the OP3/3T is in update limbo, but with great sources you have tons of choices for stable roms. The problem is both the V20 and Honor 8 are suucchhh good phones with amazing potential, so I am holding on to hope like everyone else lol.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I know this is one of those questions that is perhaps answered in here and I missed it, but since I don't see b385 on the Russian site, I didn't see release notes;

Can anyone point me to the release notes for b385? I've been happy with b360 for awhile now, great battery life, no problems to speak of so I'm curious what it is b385 claims to offer.

Many thanks;
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omartins:
Firmware Finder is an option to consider.

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1585/g104/v83098/f1/full/changelog.xml

RM
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Thanks ; I appreciate it. I used to have that installed and forgot about it.

I'll check it out.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
Firmware finder this morning lists 4 versions of B385 for the L04 variant. They are all the same size, same date., but there's 4 B385's now instead of the 2. Not sure if this is just a glitch.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Gah it would happen right before the weekend where I'm busy until Sunday night. I'll check it out.

Update: MD5 hashes are the same as far as I can tell. The URL though is different, so this might be a new version.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I don't trust 385 for L04 until it shows up on the .ru page.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
I tried the 500 something mb update but still verification failed....probably just a glitch in the matrix that it shows up 4 times now.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Not a glitch, the URL's are different. The older ones were v83046 & v83098. These are v84660 & v84667. But given that the MD5 hash is the same one has to wonder whether they pushed the wrong version.

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1585/g104/v83046/f1/full/filelist.xml

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1585/g104/v83098/f2/full/filelist.xml

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1585/g104/v84660/f2/full/filelist.xml

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1585/g104/v84667/f2/full/filelist.xml
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yoyo711:
Please give us new firmware FRD-L04 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigBrad75:
Patiently waiting for this update... Or for Huawei to release the nougat kernel source for God's sake
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gurashish1singh:
True that . If the update doesn't come in a month or so, I'll go back to OnePlus one. I hate the battery life on the b360.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yoyo711:
battery life on the b360 not good
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinN206:
It was terrible for me too. I went back to MM with all the roots and stuffs. Happy so far. Will ride this Nougat out for as long as I can. It's too unpredictable right now.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I'm luckily not having battery issues on B360. But no security updates on stuff months has me a very dissatisfied.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Christopher876:
My problem with marshmallow is that nougat is such a better upgrade over it and the revamped notifications is what is preventing me from going back. The bad battery life though is just so annoying.

Months and months and of course no update in sight. My ZenWatch 2 is on April's security update... And that's a watch...
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gurashish1singh:
I'm on frd-l04. I think most of the battery issues are on this version .

I bought mine 2 weeks back and I haven't gotten past 21 hours of battery backup yet(moderate usage, around 4 hours SOT)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I've got an FRD-L04 as well. An earlier version of MM had battery issues (B320 maybe?). Where my phone would be half dead after ~8 hours at work. I've been unemployed since February, so my phone has mostly just been on my PC charging when not being used around the house. But when I haven't charged it I had around 50% battery left after 24 hours which seems reasonable to me. I think MM was a little better but I also have one or two apps I don't have set to close when locked either, so that could account for the difference. Assuming I'm remembering correctly.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
I briefly went back to MM but the improved notification shade on Nougat brought me back, even without Magisk. It's just that much better.

OnePlus 3T is $150 more and the camera isn't as good. Certainly it's an option, but I have a toddler so my phone having a phenomenal camera is essential. Pre-kids I was indifferent to camera quality -- nice to have but not a deal breaker. After kids I prioritize phone features differently.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwatson:
Shame Honor couldn't keep the momentum up with the honor 8. I was so impressed when i bought it last year I was already sold on the Honor 9! My next phone will likey be the OnePlus 5. should be out by end of June and the OS is kept nicely up to date. If only Honor could have kept up they'd of had my money again this year.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I'm really disappointed as well. I don't know I'd like to buy another phone this year as the Honor 8 hardly feels long in the tooth, but the LACK OF SECURITY UPDATES. Ugh.

The Kirin 950 ticked all the boxes for me except GPU where it's lacking, but that's not really been a problem. The 960 looks even better.

Does anyone at Honor know the FRD-L04 updates aren't going through? There's two releases of B385 on Firmware Finder/their servers that don't work, and I along with at least one or two other people got weird emails a few months ago that our Honor US accounts were being transferred to Germany for some reason. (Closing the NA offices?) I'm also unconvinced that the attempts to connect them earlier in this thread got to actual human beings who would be in a position to know what's going on (not intended as an insult to those individuals).

Can someone from XDA get in touch with them? There used to be Honor reps named Noah and something else in the forums. Anyone have their contact info and can get in touch with them​?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I'm not sure I'd call Honor out as having momentum. They are more the Inertia types. They've really done nothing to spur development after forming "alliance" with XDA. Good thing I like b360 on L04, but the company is a total drag. I never had that battery life problem with b360, so am fine with the actual phone for quite awhile.

I think when b385 shows up on the Russian download site, it'll be "real" for Frd-L04, but until then, on Team MT, it's a myth.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] faizalotai:
Yup, waiting for the russian site as well, until then, i'm sticking with MM as for nougat there's bug that i cannot tolerate with.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Well.. B385 exists, it's on Huawei's update servers, but something about it isn't ready or working yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
It's probably going to roll out in a couple of weeks. Like the nougat firmware showed up on there in December whereas the update was released in February.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
I could be wrong, but I thought the update worked as soon as it appeared on the update servers. That is, there was never a downloadable zip that wouldn't flash -- once it was visible for download, it could be flashed right away. These zips, however, can be downloaded but just won't flash.

Either way, you're right that we'll be getting it shortly, hopefully officially and with working loop support like the L09.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] faizalotai:
More like a couple of months..???
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
I was trying to be optimistic ????
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
Do I dare?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
Got this also.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peterchen1999:
Any luck?!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I installed it from HiSuite and it works. B385 with the April 5, 2017 security update.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peterchen1999:
Update doesn't show up for me ?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
From Settings>>Update
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yoyo711:
Update doesn't show on my unit :(
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
The OK Google and Camera bug is fixed. For me at least.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gurashish1singh:
Keep us posted on the battery life getting better, if it does at all.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I wasn't having battery issues, but I'm at thirty minutes SOT, well a little more, and 88% battery. I'll post an update on a day or two when I've had some time with it.

Hopefully, the battery issues is gone and we'll have updates rolled out every month or so.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] helfrez:
HiSuite asks to send IMEI info to check for updates, so I assume it will be the same painfully slow rollout as before. It took eons for my devices to hit 360.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ambrose09:
Was this an OTA update or did you have to download and flash it?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
OTA.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Hey r u using a VPN to a particular region?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
No. Norhing special.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Dam it I want the update! ?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Just curious if you are a 'beta-tester' on that H8 program?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Can you download the full update package, grab from internal memory (HwOUC), and upload to Drive or another host?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
Not on the XDA H8 tester program.

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Sorry but I didn't save it.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
You don't have to have saved it, you can re-download it. See attached screenshot. Once you download the latest full package you can upload for the rest of us to flash.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
I was aware of that feature; however it never worked for H8 on my end.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
HiSuite should let you also download it if that doesn't work.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
I just found this page. I ain't courageous enough to install this on my device but someone else here can:

http://www.carbontesla.com/2017/05/download-honor-8-b385-nougat-update-middle-east-beta/
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
I uninstalled it last night ? ?

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That's for L09 but not L04.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Yea I know that's why I wasn't courageous enough
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Soooo.... can you reinstall it and upload the update for the rest of us, when you get an opportunity?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
Where does HiSuite put it's temp files? I'll check if they're still around. Neither System Update on the phone in HiSuite is allowing me to download just the update by itself.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Telperion:
Download "WinDirStat" and let it run on your local drive. Filter for any files greater than 100MB, and you should be able to track down the temp files if they still exist.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] funkiefresh:
The update is not available on hisuite still says b360 is latest
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dominikrod:
By the time the bulk of us get this update the security patch will be two months old. Just like B360's patch. What a fiasco this company ended up being. This is my first and last phone from them. Sorry for the negative comment but I'm very disappointed with Huawei.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] PeteSeiler2010:
I got the same result when I tried updating through HiSuite.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwatson:
i understand, but isn't this still a faster turnaround than samsung that cost more than twice the price?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] helfrez:
Not really, outside of the weird unlocked S7 fiasco, the majority of the >=S5 inventory has been getting monthly updates for some time. 2yrs ago this would have been expected, now it's somewhat shocking. It is especially irritating given the accolades they requested and received for working with the community for the Honor 8...ended up being a publicity stunt for the launch it seems.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Actually Samsung has improved alot in security updates. My friend's galaxy S6 has the April security patch right now!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I searched my PC for the B385 and found what looked like the skeleton of the update with the files having been moved to the phone/deleted afterwards. Just the directory structure and some small files remained. Sorry guys.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmcnyc:
so now that you've had the update a few days, any thoughts on battery life? Any noticeable changes in EMUI 5.1?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Is it actually 5.1? Curious.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] crash6x86:
It's still 5.0. Battery life seems alright, to me, but I've only updated 2 days ago.