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[X Style (Pure) General] tecsironman:
So this happened the other day!! Just my luck the touch doesn't work either. I priced a new screen with frame and a battery but couldn't justify paying for parts on this old phone. I don't like using cases but I should have since I busted my right hand and my left is a little doofy at times.

I was in a bind and the only thing Best Buy had in stock was a Moto e4, the rest of the Moto lineup was sold out and had to wait 2 days for delivery. If you like to play games this is not a phone for you. Other than having to adjust to screen size, 720p and one speaker this phone is not a bad device.

I was close to 6 hours sot with a mixture of social media, chrome, messages, phone, maps, Spotify, YouTube and xda.

My wife and I use life360 to monitor where our family goes that requires location to be on high accuracy. It's a slim phone great in the hands. Fingerprint reader (really digging the navigation feature) is a plus as well as removeable battery. Made of plastic but the build quality is great. Nice budget phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] xantanion:
You... Ok then :confused:
[X Style (Pure) General] dewoine:
...lol yep ok then...
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
I just got galaxy s9 omg this phone is amazing BUT holy **** is Bixby pure ****, it's embarrassing compared to moto voice.

I miss my moto features :(
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
Why I went back to moto, after Nexus 6P, altho, moto no longer has custom wake word :crying:
[X Style (Pure) General] plazzmex:
My Moto X style started dying slowly a few months ago (battery lasts for 4-5 hours without using too much, very slow, no updates anymore from Motorola (AKA Lenovola) etc etc...

Soooo, I'm thinking about replacing it in a next few weeks!

The only options as I see right now are Xperia XZ2 or HTC U11+ that even comes close to the old MotoX line...

I'm still gonna miss the front flash (why nobody thinks it's brilliant??? I mean even the latest iPhones have it!)

Otherwise, they are almost perfect, a little bit more bloated software than my Moto but still...

The big downside is they are sooooo expensive! I mean my moto cost me $400+ and those 2 are double the price!
[X Style (Pure) General] jrodbrown58:
I've been thinking about the xaomi mi mix 2s or the hauwei p20+ not sure of what they cost just yet but they really look like nice phones. There's not many phones that catches my eye anymore. They all seem to be too much alike. Either no expandable storage, fingerprint scanner on the front which I would rather omhave it on the back, no US lte support, microusb compared to USB type c. There seems to be something missing from newer phones and I will not own an apple and I haven't been impressed with Samsung for ages. My true wish is that motorola will make a newer phone but with the styling of the pure just updated to have USB c and rear fingerprint scanner and of course stay active with development for more than a couple years. :/
[X Style (Pure) General] dzidexx:
I've just bought Mi Note 3, black, 6/64 GB, from Gearbest.

Very nice, smooth, fast smartphone.

D2w, Dt2s(Nova), face unlock, doesn't matter where is fingerprint sensor.

In car f.e. it's difficult to unlock with sensor at backside.
[X Style (Pure) General] jrodbrown58:
So I've been looking more into options on what I should replace my mxp with. As of right now I'm thinking of in the price range of the essential Phone or Moto z2 play or a Moto g5s plus. What's other people's opinions on these phones as far as performance, custom rom development, etc? Thank you
[X Style (Pure) General] Spencervb256:
In terms of performance, and stock Android, and with a custom scene, and with fast updates, the essential is the way to go in my opinion. It's an amazing price, as it has come down in price since first launch, and I would say it's a WAY better option than the z2 or g5s
[X Style (Pure) General] jrodbrown58:
That's what I was thinking as well. My only problem with the phone is storage. I have 64gb on my mxp plus a 128gb SD card installed...so I'm gonna have to rethink my storage usage and decide on what's important to keep
[X Style (Pure) General] AsquareX:
I don't know if this phone is available in your region or not but check out Lenovo P2, it has 625 + 5k battery, also an AMOLED screen. The software is not highly bloated so it could be a good secondary phone I feel.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Thanks, but that device does not have US LTE bands.... it is missing 2 and 17 which are pretty much a requirement for day to day usage on AT&T's network here since 2 is their primary LTE band.
[X Style (Pure) General] datchico305:
The OnePlus has gotten 7.1.1 as well and im pretty sure before axon 7 users
[X Style (Pure) General] tolymatev:
I am 99.9% we got 7.1.1 before anyone.

We received 7.1.1 on March 16th.

OnePlus had betas out before that but the official 7.1.1 was pushed out after A7.
[X Style (Pure) General] datchico305:
The beta was released on March 1st I'll still consider that better than axon due to it being stable enough and anyone was able to install it
[X Style (Pure) General] bluegrass55:
I don't know about the Axon 7 but have used MXP, Lenovo P2 and multiple 3 & 3Ts and I'm now waiting for delivery of another MXP.

The reasons for getting another MXP are,

1-The screen

2-The speakers

3-The low price since it's from 2015

The problem with the P2 was lip sync issue when playing videos and lack of development. The 2 week mandatory wait for Bootloader unlock was really annoying.

The 3 & 3T whilst being a very developer friendly device with regular updates compromises on screen and audio quality. My 2013 Nexus 5 has much better headphone audio out. The screen although Amoled is an older S4 version and is not very eye friendly. It is also double the cost of a brand new MXP.The battery though with Google Play frozen in Titanium is very good.
[X Style (Pure) General] NahuelMS:
With average use and moto display off, mixed celular signal, wifi and lte i am getting 12hs with 4.5,5hs SoT on stock. Maybe yours battery is faulty or there is one app drainning your phone. The moto z play is in your price range and has everythint you asked for.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
You are one of the lucky ones, most people in the forums rarely claim to get more than 3.5-4 hours in similar circumstances... T-Mobile I am assuming, with good signal?

Besides... I've made up my mind now, the MXPE is going... Switched back to my Moto G 2015 last night and wiped the MXPE and listed it for sale this morning.
[X Style (Pure) General] NahuelMS:
I live in Argentina, here the antennas are like bananas hanging of the threes. Signal is average and bad. For me the difference is made by the moto display. Turning it off get my like + 45min more SoT. Also youtube and the speakers are battery hunger.

Moto z play gets like 12hrs SoT and is around 300U$D. I have use it and it works very good. The only bad thing is the glass back panel wich scratch with only watching it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Tough order!

If you're on AT&T, your choices open up a lot more because you could possibly use some of those off-beat devices that never got fully domesticated (although you have to watch the LTE bands still). For Verizon customers like myself, the Pure Edition is truly one-of-a-kind. Either way, so many phones have Led screens or non-unlockable bootloaders now that it only proves to make one more thankful that the Pure Edition exists at all.

Consider upgrading to a larger capacity Moto X Pure Edition (and/or in a different color scheme). You'd be getting the best domestic carrier compatibility around coupled with one of the best stock roms around, the best screen ever seen on a mobile device, a powerful chipset, decent camera, and acceptable (3:45-4:15) battery life in addition to all of the handy gestures and whatnot. And all at a decent price. The only real problem is all of the *****ing that goes on in the forums about Android N ;).
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
The point is that the OP is trying to get away from the MXPE. Battery life for him is not adequate for his purposes. He is researching phones, but as I have stated, options are very limited for what he would like to see in a phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
[MENTION=2444885]aybarrap1[/MENTION] Is exactly right... I am not terrible bothered by most of the issues (except the band hopping that keeps me from getting calls) or update policies with the Moto X Pure, mainly the battery life. Yesterday was a dream, first full day after complete setup of normal, although light weekend, usage on my old Moto G 2015 and I got just over 3 hours of screen on time and had 54% battery remaining after 13 hours off the charger in mixed in-town usage (the MXPE would be getting into Battery Saver mode about this time). WOW! Curious to see if I get the "band hopping" issue next week in Minneapolis, thinking I probably won't. And to be honest, having the smaller screen wasn't that hard to adjust too either.

[MENTION=5170671]Bill720[/MENTION] I am on H2O wireless, basically AT&T... And I am open to "off-beat" devices as long as they are stock(ish) Android, since I had Nexus devices, then Moto devices, I have gotten quite used to it. One of my original considerations was/is a Blu Pure XR and the Axon 7, both are hardly mainstream devices although the Axon is getting more and more love from the enthusiast community each year. Bootloader unlock and root capability means less and less to me each year, as Android gets more and more of what I want built in. To be honest, since Marshmallow I have felt little urge to root at all and did with the MXPE just to disable tether provisioning checking, but I really never used it.

And BTW, on Verizon there are other options besides the MXPE, namely the Moto G4 and G5, Moto Z, Google Pixel, Samsung S7 series, and Apple iPhone. Still I see your point, it's either sub-$300 mid-range devices or $600+ premium devices, that middle area is pretty vacant.

Currently I am just in a holding pattern, my Moto G 2015 works fine for what I need, and I have my mint MXPE listed for sale with 3 cases and a set of tempered glass screen protectors at kind of a high price ($260), going to let it ride and drop slowly to get the most out of it I can. I am in no rush, if I stick with this for a month or even until fall, I can deal with it and see what comes out and if I can find that hidden gem or awesome sale.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Wait for the Moto x 2017 ?
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
This is so true. The only thing I rooted after my warranty for was the convenience of one or two Tasker profiles that required root for network and GPS. But I easily went through a year without them so root was just something to do.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Except if rumors hold true, the new X is just going to be a mildly hopped up G5 Plus, with a bigger display, NFC, and a better camera... I don't hold out much hope for the future of the X series now that Lenovo has made it clear the Z is it's flagship.
[X Style (Pure) General] dboyrusky:
I sold my MXPE and got OnePlus 3T Midnight Black and not looking back! Got tired of 2. 5 to 3 hours sot. I love my 3t, so fast, screen is good and audio isn't bad, although not front facing but I have no problems hearing anything.
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Ima gonna sell this phone when Xiaomi Mi 6 /6+ comes up..

im actually tired of this phone for 3 reasons

1) low battery life( needs to be charged atleast 2-3 times a day)

2)giving laggs

3) no nougat till now (atleast give us a proper date)
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Well... Looks like I might have to cross Moto's completely off my list of possibilities...

http://www.techupdate3.com/2017/04/upcoming-moto-phones-to-run-on-zuks-zui.html
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
My battery life was getting pretty bad as well. I am not a heavy user. However, at this time of day as I type 4:10pm EDT, I would be down to 50%. I downloaded a copy of Autostarts. It was a program I bought years ago in the old Adroid G1 days. I had not really needed since then but I still had a paid copy waiting for me. It was unreal the programs that startup when my phone boots and then starts up. I went in and uninstalled many of the apps as I don't use them anyway. Then I had Autostarts prevent the programs of my choosing to not startup. Right now I am sitting at 68% since 7:30 this morning. Like I said, I am not a heavy user but I am noticing much better battery life since doing this. I had been contemplating a new phone myself, but I think I may keep this one for the 3rd year. Longest I have kept a phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
There are simply no good upgrade paths besides the overpriced Pixel XL, or the OP3T if you don't mind GSM only. Amazingly, the section of the Android ecosystem featuring stock Android and no ties to carriers has only contracted over the years. The market is only drifting further from where it should've gone long ago. Unlocked straight-from-OEM devices are treated as second class citizens, be it Moto or Samsung or whomever else. The bad guys have won every battle, be it carriers or bloatware-bombing, proprietary-pushing OEMs. I just about give up. Time to use my MXPE until it's no longer functional and stop feeling any level of enthusiast investment/interest in my smartphone. Two overpowering forces (Apple and Google) staked their claim to this market early enough to shut everyone else out, and they both have near-fatal flaws in their respective philosophies for their OS.
[X Style (Pure) General] Spencervb256:
You're kidding, what do you have on it that's so big!? Because the 128gb essential would only be 64 less than the setup you have right now right..do you use all of that storage you've got?? That's crazy!
[X Style (Pure) General] jrodbrown58:
Haha no not kidding at all I have about 40gb of just music alone. Then apps and prolly some roms and gapps that I could get rid of but right now I'm using all but 11ish gbs total
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
signal=essential

Essential PH-1 is a no-go for me due to the poor radio performance. I'm also not a big fan of the fugly rounded-corner screen, but could let it pass due to the fact that it is LCD and of decent quality on an otherwise-attractive device.
[X Style (Pure) General] Spencervb256:
I guess the rounded screen is personal preference, that's ****ty about the poor radio performance, that's a real downside you're right, doesn't bother me as I don't use data anyways, but it really is a beautiful device. And yeah it has a nothing, but it's honestly tiny, and hardly affects the look of the phone imo
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Still a bummer

I don't know what the scope of the issue is, but there's a good possibility that voice calls and SMS are affected as well. Possibly even WiFi. Either way, it's a non-starter for me and a definite shame. Otherwise, it's a Verizon-compatible phone with a decent screen and unlockable bootloader, which puts it in a very exclusive league (a league which is led by the Moto X Pure Edition).
[X Style (Pure) General] Spencervb256:
People I know say it doesn't affect wifi, but yeah wither way like you say it's a no go, but I'd honestly suggest waiting for the 2nd one. It was close to perfect this year, and I honestly think that the ph2 will be the perfect phone, and hopefully won't be priced super high, after they realized the ph1 was released with too high of a price.

That's my hope anyways
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
I hope for it too!

Time will tell. At least it was something of a standout in a depressing year of otherwise-horrible-looking smartphones.
[X Style (Pure) General] randalgibbons:
Only one phone could replace my mxpe

After weeks of research I narrowed it down to the Huawei Honor 8 (beautiful device) and then I bought another moto x pure edition. I found one that had never been activated. I couldn't settle for a smaller, lesser quality display and only one speaker. Price was also a factor. Ill get it tomorrow. I'm not one to buy something new just because its the latest technology or the latest style. I have truly enjoyed my experience with my moto x and I will continue to do so.

Sent from my moto g (deactivated) through my moto x (cracked screen).
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Well now I'm just peeved off. Lenovo decided the latest G series upcoming will ship with an SD 4xx series processor which kills future Moto G for me.

However, Nokia released the 6.1 with a SD 6xx processor with Zeiss optics for the rear camera, a 5.5 FHD screen, fingerprint sensor, and it is an Android One phone...$269 for the 32GB/3Gb RAM US version. Even though Nokia decided to drop the stereo speaker option (bummer), they may very well get my money.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Nokia, Huawei, and Motorola

Huawei sent me their latest and "greatest" Honor View 10 for review (a $500 retail device) and I wasn't really all that enthusiastic about it. The screen is acceptable, but not as good as the Pure's panel. The battery life, storage, and memory are far above average, but the software is overwhelming (while still lacking features somehow) and the camera is about half a decade behind the times. I still like the Pure Edition better.

Mine too... if they ever wake up and start getting certified for Verizon. Decent real-world camera performance would not hurt either.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I think if Nokia would certify over all US carriers, their market share would definitely grow. In on AT&T atm, so it is definitely worth my attention. As far as camera performance, it is adequate on the 6.1 in terms of my usage. The fact they used Zeiss optics is a huge plus that compensates to some degree and quite frankly ranks as one of the better cameras at the price point (post processing capability excluded). All things considered, it is the best priced Android One phone to date. The pricing and specs hit the sweet spot for me. While the resolution is lower, .2 inches less screen size (which FHD still looks good on), and a loss of stereo, I really can't fault it.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Is their bootloader unlocking policy still...nonexistant? I find I use root for less and less over the years, but I still wouldn't want to be without pie controls.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
As I far as I know there is still no plans to allow bootloader unlocking. However, I do not know if this will apply to the Nokia 6.1 or not given it is an Android One phone. But while I might miss a couple of things I get with root, I just don't see less and less of a reason to do so and I can live without it.

Of course me purchasing a new phone is probably about 6 to 10 months away since I replaced my MXPE battery recently. By then, Nokia may very well decide to unlock the bootloader and hopefully the price will drop.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
In agreement

The Pure Edition spoiled me for camera quality, so it's really difficult to go back to anything else. The level of captured detail is just phenomenal.

The only things I use actively root for anymore are ad blocking, audio enhancements, and Titanium Backup. If all of these functions can ever be fulfilled without it, then I'd probably move on as well. Until then, an unlockable bootloader is non-negotiable.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Dns66 works good for rootless ad blocking. I've got nothing for the other two.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I will agree that the camera quality is slightly less but I have to wonder if the post processing software is any better. I know that the old Nokia camera software was excellent for post processing. I can hope it is close to being as good as the old.

DNS66 definitely works for blocking ads. Now that I'm tied since the warranty is up, I haven't used it on my MXPE but it still works on my wife's Galaxy S6. I think the only thing I would miss on a non rooted phone is the ability to set up certain Tasker profiles that require root (mobile data, GPS, etc.).
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Processing isn't bad

I always thought that the Pure Edition's stock software was pretty good at processing images, even if it was pretty light on features. There's not nearly as much artificial sharpening or noise reduction going on in the photos taken as I've seen from other smartphones, which leads to a clearer photo of higher effective resolution.
[X Style (Pure) General] randalgibbons:
Well it's been a little over a month with my new moto x and I couldn't be happier. I love it. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted with Magisk. I showed it to a co-worker who quickly said "Wow! That's a nice display!" He owns an S8 by the way. And quite a few people have commented on how loud it is.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I missed the original post, but where do you find an unused MXPE?
[X Style (Pure) General] randalgibbons:
I found it on Swappa. I also got a used one in excellent condition for my girlfriend.
[X Style (Pure) General] Igoruss:
Hi guys, I send my M-X-Style to warranty service and they replaced screen, battery and back cover for a new ones under warranty.

In the meantime I've switched to HTC 10 and while it's really good phone, I'm dissapointed... Yeah, HTC has a lot better spec in almost every aspect, especially performance and photo quality (except battery life which is terrible). But I miss Moto display, quick gestures for camera and torch, overall super ergonomic rock-solid build quality and audio quality - htc boomsound speakers are not even close to MXStyle front facing woofers.

Theese days nobody creates phones like old Moto X's. and what is more sad, all new phones are completely opposite of Moto X's:

- flat, slippery and fragile glassy-**** on back VS solid-grip textured plastic and egronomic curved shape,

- ****ty bottom speakes which are easy to cover VS super loud and bassy front speakers which cant be covered no matter how hard you try

- no plastic frame around the screen which protects glass from breaking so easly,

There isnt good replacement for MXS :(

Maybe Pixel 2XL but its very expensive
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
The Pure Edition still reigns supreme

HTC Ten has always been my "emergency plan" too. I wouldn't call the Pure Edition's puny little speakers "woofers," but they are loud enough to be usable in noisy environments (and can be further motivated by A.R.I.S.E. audio). If the 10 has one advantage, it would be that its stubborn prices on the used market have finally started to drop, while the Pure Edition's have stayed inexplicably high by refusing to drop at the expected rate.

The boring and ugly Pixel line encompasses almost every tired element of the Android bad-feature-bandwagon, including yawn-worthy designs, forgettable screens, and (as you've already discovered) unnecessarily high prices. I'd take an HTC 10 (or 11 or even a U Ultra) over the Pixel any day of the week.
[X Style (Pure) General] bastardtrees:
Wife made me get a moto z2 force on tmobile

Its faster and has better battery life but I miss my moto x pure
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
MADE YOU?!

I'm digging the Z2 Play and if you get the unlocked version is bootloader unlockable.

I got an OG Pixel XL to play with, because of more development, but really unimpressive. It does nothing better than the Z2 Play OR the MXPE, for that matter. I don't even think I want to keep it as a backup phone. Very disappointing.

Perhaps I'll checkout an HTC Ten, if it has Verizon capability.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Pure Edition is still the champion

I figured as much :).

I know there's a Verizon variant, but word on the street is that it's pretty locked down. I thought I read something about a software customizations for one of the other versions to unlock that capability, but don't remember for sure anymore.
[X Style (Pure) General] pizza_pablo:
I've read a bit about each. Both are rootable. The unlocked version is easier to S-Off, for "full control". I'm still not sure if the differences in those statuses.

The Verizon version must be mailed to a dev, in order to achieve S-Off.

Since then I've read about the Motorola One & One Power. I'm wondering what the development will be like, for those.