yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sh4d1t0:
Can we use the SD card like internal storage?

Enviado desde mi Moto G (5) Plus mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jstiel:
Just realized my camera seems to work fine until I edit the build prop to get rid of the navigation keys and reboot - then no image in the camera.

Any ideas anyone?

Edit: no camera problems so far with today's build.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] SEBASTIAN00735:
Hello Friend, In XT1681?

Funciona? Estaría Muy Agradecido
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] smitharro:
2 Things:

1. Don't quote the whole OP.

2. Write in English: read the rules of XDA! https://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81

In your case rule nr 4:

4. Use the English language.

We understand that with all the different nationalities, not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English, use an online translator. You're free to include your original message in your own language, below the English translation. (This rule covers your posts, profile entries and signature).

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Moto G (5) Plus met Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] SEBASTIAN00735:
Sorry for the above

Hi friend, this ROM can run on my Moto G5 Plus XT 1681?, thanks for your attention
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] smitharro:
Yes, it should work fine, as long as it's a G5 Plus ('potter')!

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Moto G (5) Plus met Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
How do I get ride of the nav bar? I know it's something to do with buildprop. Please help?

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If you have the money go with the nexus
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] smitharro:
Just add this line in your build.prop:

qemu.hw.mainkeys=1

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Moto G (5) Plus met Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] EdgA#1:
All is working fine....

Read OP !!!

...yes, flash it and root again

Gesendet von meinem XT1685 mit Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mikesal57:
Thxs...got ROOT back but how do I get the swipe button on phone to work again?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] morph027:
You mean the fingerprint swipe? Just enable it in settings -> gestures
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] EdgA#1:
Gesture, fingerprint

Gesendet von meinem XT1685 mit Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pedro_pandolfi:
While texting the nav bar appears on bottom of screen... I not use.. I use only fingerprint gestures...

[pt-BR]Quando estou digitando a barra de navegação aparece... eu não uso.. eu uso somente os gestos no leitor de digitais [pt-BR]
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
Are you using extended desktop or the option on the buttons section in settings to hide navbar?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jayesh Nirve:
Let me tell [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] all the problems ) bugs

1 the recent bug

2 radio bug

3random reboots on installing subs

Pls fix these vache thks anyway....
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] triggerlord:
I only have #1 but wtf is "subs"?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jayesh Nirve:
When i have a substratum installed..... The phone reboots if i presw the lock button even for 1 sec and it does not even show me the power off or restart menu which we get when we long press the lock button it just reboots.....
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] triggerlord:
Well as far as I know, Lineage doesn't support OMS/Substratum. That's probably your problem.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jayesh Nirve:
Which rom support?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] error404:
All the rooms where the thread says "support substratum", "oms", just search a little and you'll find out.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] helix0203:
HELP!!

i just installed the build released on 18 july and flashed latest OpenGapps but play store isn't opening, but there is icon for it on homescreen neither the Google Play Sevices app is installed. I used ARM 7.1 mini package.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mikesal57:
hey guys..

How do you fix voicemail...I get an error when I call..something like 154

thx

Mike
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] triggerlord:
Voicemail works fine. The problem is probably on your carriers side.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mikesal57:
Yes...fixed that..

Last thing....is there a way to rid the Search Bar?

thx
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] bornlivedie:
Change the launcher
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] triggerlord:
There's a setting in the default launcher.

Not needed to just remove the search bar.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mikesal57:
OK...then how do you remove it?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ST Dog:
Same way you remove any other shortcut/widget.

May have to play a bit to find the spot to select it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Nooooo. No lol that's not how you do that. Long press an empty space on the launcher then press settings. You can turn it off there

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Look at my post
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
Anyone else experiencing battery drain from some process "media.extractor?" This is making LineageOS system the biggest user of battery.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] itslels:
Just about every other custom ROM besides lineage.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
What app are you using to see that?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
BetterBatteryStats
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
so.... BetterBatteryStats is paid... know any other app that does the trick?

I downloaded a free app that promess to analyze battery but it was bull****...

thank you
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] morph027:
You can get the free version of BBS here at XDA.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
Great, thank you.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] triggerlord:
Go into the launcher's settings and disable it. I just said that... It's literally the first option.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gagan.yadav.96:
Hey [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] can you work on aospa if you get the time please?

All of its features are now ready to be used on github.

Please consider this request.

Thank you.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
So there's this issue where if send a message using the aosp SMS app it closes whatever for grounded app you have open. Anyone find a fix for it? Is this a known issue with los?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RD1945:
Hey [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION], can you please tell me how to build this rom from source? I want to build it myself. I know how to get the source for lineageos from git, but I don't know how to implement your g5 source into it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jbradshw:
Reposting this here so more eyes see this:

OK so I have an odd issue that just popped up.

I've been using MultiRom since I got this phone. I've only had 1 ROM on it so far, which is this one, and it's been working great. Today I decided to add a ROM, the same thing but with Substratum (OMS). So I added the ROM and installed it, and it booted up fine. After I was done tinkering with it, I rebooted back to my original ROM and it booted up, but now my lock screen pattern no longer works and I'm unable to get into the device.

I've subsequently removed the OMS ROM I added (so it's now just the original I've been using) but I'm unable to get into it still. I thought if the pattern failed enough times it would ask for your Google account password but it's never getting to that point.

I'm open to suggestions. I really don't want to blow this thing away and install from scratch.

EDIT: I was able to get in. This post can be deleted.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] smitharro:
I had the same problem a while ago. So I don't think MultiRom is ready for this device. I gave up on it!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MiningMarsh:
NFC wakelock

I'm running the US version (xt1687) of the plus, and after installing this I noticed poor battery life. Tracking down the offender revealed that the NFC service adds a permenant wakelock to the non-NFC US version that was preventing deep sleep (and I couldn't turn NFC off since it wasn't an option on my phone). I tried killing the NFC service using adb to no avail.

If anyone has this issue, rm'ing /system/app/NfcNci solved it for me. I now get superb battery life.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] abeloman:
It isn't related to multirom... In fact, if you restore a TWRP backup which contains any pin/password, it definitely will fail... Dunno why, but seems related to TWRP itself, not multirom, because it happens even with only single ROM, and normal TWRP
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dahenjo:
I haven't used multirom but found what you're saying to be true, which is why I do all backups just with swipe. It worked if you stayed on the same rom since doing the backup, but after being on a different rom/stock in between, the usual case for us, and using the exact same pattern/pin, it always failed for me. This was back on the early TWRP versions, although it seems to still be happening. I've wondered if this happens on other devices too, or it's something with our TWRP or device.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] smitharro:
That would be a huge security risk: not being able to use a pattern or a pin. But never mind, this is the wrong place for this discussion!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
Actually, if you're getting locked out of your OS after restoring a TWRP nandroid, just delete locksettings.db from /data/system. Keeps fingerprints and removes whatever screen lock you have.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Building Los now because the fullscreen playback issue has been fixed. If all goes well I'll post a link here so everyone can use it until vache builds an update
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Hirorails:
Does this have the fingerprint navbar gestures
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RD1945:
I want to do my own builds as well. Can you help me get started? I know how to pull the source of los from git but how to continue, I don't know.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] :
Hi guys I just lost my phone. I had Find my Device enabled. How can I use it? Please answer quick. Thanks.

I had Lineage.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
Just login to your Google account on a PC and search "find my phone." From there you can find location (if you had it enabled), battery level, and WiFi network (if connected). Lock/erase functions are there as well. This all depends on the phone being turned on & not dead, though.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] :
So the one from Lineage is the same as Google? Great. I already did that.

By the way, if someone flashes stock firmware with the PC, does the encryption keep working or not? Thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
This thread isn't the place for questions about stock firmware. You should post such inquiries over on a thread like this: https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/howto-ultimate-g5-plus-guide-unlocking-t3593531/page3

But yes. Encryption is enabled when flashing stock.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Sorry I was at work. I'm struggling to build myself lol. Got to 85% and the ROM just stopped building
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RD1945:
All I need to know is where (in which folder) to put the device and kernel sources from [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION]. After that is done I can start a build.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] fAIyaZ:
https://xdaforums.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763

For more help you can join @AndroidBuildingHelp on telegram.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JorgePereira:
The latest build broke the camera on xt1683
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
I havê the xt1683 and câmera is fine

---------- Post added at 05:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:13 PM ----------

I have the xt1683 model and camera here is fine
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JorgePereira:
What is your build version?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] EdgA#1:
New build is out.

Gesendet von meinem XT1685 mit Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
Its the 18/07 version

Now ill try 10/08

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Im on 10/08 build and the camera is working on xt1683
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jbradshw:
Is the 20170810 build working ok? I noticed the md5 doesn't match (Could just be me but I downloaded it from two different machines) so I was cautious to flash it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
Working here
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] earlycray:
The MD5 does match. Is the recents bug fixed in the new build ?

EDIT: the recents bug not fixed.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jrhotrod:
Is there a changelog for this ROM? I'm used to there being one in most threads
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Doblete_:
Is it compatible with xt1680?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Karlinski:
You can see all the changes by looking at the repo.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jbradshw:
Yeah after my 5th download, it finally matches! lol
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cvbrt:
Check if the file ~/android/lineage/.repo/local_manifests/roomservice.xml has the following lines:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<manifest>

<project name="LineageOS/android_device_qcom_common" path="device/qcom/common" remote="github" />

<project name="LineageOS/android_packages_resources_devicesettings" path="packages/resources/devicesettings" remote="github" />

<project name="boulzordev/android_vendor_motorola_potter" path="vendor/motorola/potter" remote="github" revision="master" />

<project name="boulzordev/android_device_motorola_potter" path="device/motorola/potter" remote="github" revision="cm-14.1" />

<project name="boulzordev/android_kernel_motorola_msm8953" path="kernel/motorola/msm8953" remote="github" revision="cm-14.1" />

<project name="LineageOS/android_external_bson" path="external/bson" remote="github" />

</manifest>

After that run "repo sync" to sync this directories.

If you have already downloaded the vache repositories and you don't want to use as I explained before the paths are as follows:

"vendor files" path="vendor/motorola/potter"

"device files" path="device/motorola/potter"

"kernel files" path="kernel/motorola/msm8953"
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pablofior:
Something funny...

All the other ROMs claims to be the best ROM with tons of customisations. The reality is: all the other rom s have all the same customization. The only thing that changes is the name of the zip you flash and the logo for each team.

Well, then comes lineage. By the way, base for a lot of ROMs. It comes clean, almost pure, with the only the customizations that i realy use. I dont need to bother with a lot of fearutes that i font use.

It is fast, has awsome battery life. I use greenify, custom kernel ex, and with kernel adiutor i van make profiles to chante CPU and GPU settings to extend battery life.

Well, if you disagree, i dont care, ill just keep using lineage :)

Thank you [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] and all the others involved in this project.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JohnKlax:
I'm also running the USA variant, XT1687, and had the exact same issue as this -- NFC wakelock draining the battery. I tried to disable the NFC Service through Settings->Apps but it didn't solve the problem.

I have root installed. Using the Terminal app I changed to root (su), remounted /system as read/write (remount -o rw,remount,rw /system) and the removed the /system/app/NfcNci directory (rm -rf /system/app/NfcNci). This fixed the problem! Thanks [MENTION=6516614]MiningMarsh[/MENTION] ! Battery life is even better now!

This is a great rom, big thanks to [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] !

Also, FYI, the newest build (20170810) has a built in option to completely turn off the Nav Bar! Settings -> Buttons -> turn off "Enable on-screen nav bar"! Awesome! I've been using the fingerprint sensor for navigation so it is wonderful to turn off the nav bar completely without having to resort to editing build.prop!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
You definitely did this the hard way bro lol. You're clearly used to terminal
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JohnKlax:
Lol three simple commands, easy!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
I messed up an install like that before. In Linux I love using terminal but I hate it on Android because I always break stuff
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] abeloman:
Lol, it was so simple like installing titanium backup and delete NFCservice
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
That's what I do every time I install a rom lol
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RD1945:
Thanks for helping me. Today I've got a build going. And it boots as well. THANKS!!!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] :
[MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] Are you still working on AOSPA?:/
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gagan.yadav.96:
Yes same question.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
That rom is hard af to Port. I couldn't do it. But then again I am just a noob. Hopefully he can do it
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] fAIyaZ:
You guys should know where you are talking about other ROMs lol. This thread is specifically for lineage only as you can clearly see on top of the thread. And regarding PA vache already have working PAified tree on his boulzour dev potter device repo. And regarding if he's working or not. I just want to say he's on a trip for 3 weeks and he's away from home. Now just think wisely if he can able to do or NOT.:)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
I guess you had to flex a bit. Thanks for the info none the less
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] vache:
Keep it clean (again...). This is not the right place for such questions. Next time I'll delete your messages.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
So don't ask about other roms????
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] vache:
https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/help
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cvbrt:
:good::)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] badtlc:
Does this work with stock kernel or is a specific kernel needed? Thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] badtlc:
as an update to my previous question, I'm getting random reboots. Not sure what is causing it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MiningMarsh:
I went ahead and created a simple addon.d script to remove the NfcNci directory after rom updates:

#!/sbin/sh
#
# /system/addon.d/99-remove-nfc-service.sh
# During a LineageOS upgrade, this script ensures that
# /system/app/NfcNci is not present after the upgrade is
# finished.
#

. /tmp/backuptool.functions

case "$1" in
backup)
# Stub
;;
restore)
if [ -d /system/app/NfcNci ]; then
rm -rf /system/app/NfcNci
fi
;;
pre-backup)
# Stub
;;
post-backup)
# Stub
;;
pre-restore)
# Stub
;;
post-restore)
# Stub
;;
esac

Drop in /system/addon.d, mark as executable.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
This would be dope in a flash able zip
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MiningMarsh:
Attached is one created with ZIPme. Works on my phone. If you flash this, then reflash the lineage zip, you should see the NFC service disappear next time you boot.

If your phone lights on fire it was Voldemort's fault, not mine.

EDIT: If you flash this on something that actually has NFC, it will remove the NFC service anyways. I believe only the xt1687 doesn't have NFC.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Bro why don't you post it where everyone can see it?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MiningMarsh:
I'm not sure I know what you mean. I am not too familiar with the way XDA is setup.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Under our device put it under the themes,apps, and mods section
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MiningMarsh:
I'm not sure this is worthy of an entire thread. This should just be a temporary fix for this ROM; the lineage ROM should be able to disable the NFC service if NFC doesn't exist (I'm not sure if this is a bug with these specific builds, or is a bug upstream).

You can post it if you want, I'm not really too interested in maintaining a thread about it anyways.

As a side note: the ZIP I provided doesn't actually check if you are running an xt1687, so if you flash this on something that actually has NFC, you will lose NFC capability until you remove the addon.d script.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zeft64:
Okay
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] joesee:
Guys, I'm having a problem with Verizon with this ROM on my potter. I only seem to get 3G and not LTE. Pull the SIM out and stick it in my iphone6 and pulls LTE just fine. Put the stock ROM back on potter and it works just fine. I looked at the APN settings, but everything is all greyed out so I can't modify it (even though everything looks like it should). Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] dew912:
I had the same problem and ultimately had to revert to stock, lock in an LTE signal and reflash the ROM.

Other steps to consider first...

Enable enhanced 4g LTE in cellular network options. If that option doesn't appear than also check this...

Type in...

*#*#4636#*#*

In the dialer

Go to phone information

See if you can enable "volte provisioned"

Once again, flashing to stock and then reinstalling the ROM fixed this same exact issue for me
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] badtlc:
My reboot issues seem to have stopped somehow but now I'm getting battery drain even while charging. I don't have any apps running and screen is turned off. Is there a way to find out what is using so much juice?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Priezti:
Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone uses a drone with their device, I have the DJI phantom 3 and I can connect and use it OK, however because it is just WiFi and no internet connection, android sees this and asks if I want to stay connected. I can say yes and its all OK, if I click always stay connected and don't ask again, it doesn't remember this, so I can connect again but it doesn't work properly, I have to forget the network and reconnect. I believe this down to LOS or 7.1 etc. Just wondering if anyone had the same issues as I can't find another solution and also if [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION] seems to have an idea as he appears to know what he's doing :D thanks in advance.