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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] dhorgas:
Not sure how I feel about HARMON. HARMAN on the other hand... :p

On topic, the included earbuds are actually a very decent pair. I would say on part with buds that cost $100-$150. As typical of most in-ear buds, the soundstage is nearly non-existent, but the overall clarity and balance is pretty good. Highs are not shrill or piercing, lows are very present, albeit no deep bass comes through (I would not expect this anyway). Mid-range is more or less in balance with the highs. Overall, I think that this is a good value add to an already pretty great package with the S8/S8+. Now if only I can get the battery performance to not suck on the S8+ I'd be golden.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] bonerp:
Well I've run these alongside my Soundmagic e10c. First the buds don't seal as well - I'll take a look later to see if the rubber is smaller. Second the soundstage is really weak and aimed towards clarity even with the bass cranked up on the eq (play music app - also tried the Captune app but the volume is lower). The E10C provide excellent bass and a full range, but these AKG's are not focused towards depth or provide any real bass at all. I think I'll run them for a couple of days and see of they improve but so far I find them simply irritating. Are they any different to the bog standard samsung 'phones - yes. But theres a huge part of the music missing.

I also use wireless Sennheiser PXC550 which are among the best wireless headphones available. I generally use earphones though when with the sprogg and she has hers on.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] RegKilla:
they sound good and are comfortable in the ear.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
You can get the AKG earbuds from Amazon for about $13.00 CAD

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[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] nikexv2:
They're probably fake like most of "samsung" accesories on amazon...
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
Maybe - But the AKG earbuds that came with my S8+ are crap compared to Sennheiser Momentum earbuds - Which are pretty good - but not the best.

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] Ghrev:
If you want more bass in this thing try Poweramp from the google play store
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] partcyborg:
In have to give my experience here...

I've always hated iems my entire life my ears must be weird or something because no matter how nice or expensive the pair the hurt my ears. I eventually gave up and just used foldable one's that I toughed out and carried everywhere with me.

That is until I got my s8...

I don't know if Its design or sheer luck, but these are by orders of magnitude the most comfortable, the only comfortable earbuds I've ever owned. I wear them every second I'm not at my desk at work (and sometimes there too. As for the sound quality, with v4a/Ainur/other root sound mods they sound just fine, and that's coming from someone who a practicing audiophile.

If you are rooted and want to check out my preset for these headphones, pm me and I'll put one together that uses free IRS and DDC, or I'll show you where you can buy the same ones.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
I am having a nightmare trying to find any USB 3.0/ 3.1 type c to type c (at least 5gbps) cables in the UK longer than 3ft!! I have found a couple of 3 ft ones but I will be using it to charge my S8, there is no way a 3ft cable is going to reach behind my desk and down to the socket. I would also like to be able to use it as more than purely a charging cable, hence wanting 5gbps or the newer 10gbps speeds. I am amazed there isn't a single cable longer than 3ft for it other than a few old usb 2.0 ones which are useless these days (and I suspect won't even charge it at full speed).

Couple of 3ft ones, one by Belkin and one by Anker, but nothing longer (in the UK anyway). There must be a demand for them, connecting a charger will need longer than 3ft for anyone that has it on a desk, and connecting it to the back of a pc of docking station will as well!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] rkennison:
https://www.anker.com/products/A8169091

They have a few others on there as well that are 6 ft.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
"Buy at Amazon US" and "USB-C to USB-A"
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] pRo_lama:
PowerLine USB-C to USB-C 2.0 (6ft / 1.8m)

https://www.anker.com/products/A8182011
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
Again, I am *NOT* in the US...and I *DONT* want USB 2.0!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] Tidbits:
I don't see why not use 2 cables. Personally I use 2 cables simply because always having to pull the cable and do what I got to do then put it back from my desk is real bothersome. I don't know how your setup is however.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] datajosh:
If you're looking for a cable to use with the OEM charger, the unboxing videos I've seen show the included charger with a USB A connection, so you would need a C-to-A cable. (You might already be aware, just making sure.)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
Yeah I am using 2 cables, this is the second one. I already have a 6ft USB C to A cable so that's covered, I just want a c to c cable 6ft and at least 5gbps usb 3.0 so it is somewhat future proof (vs all the usb 2.0 versions I keep finding that are too old and slow for my needs).

Yep I have C to A already. No Idea why C to C at longer than 3ft is so hard to find, I'll just have to wait I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] Tidbits:
C to C isn't all that popular currently. There are very few things out right now that require C to C.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] jeux_1:
Anker PowerLine+ USB-C to USB 3.0 cable (6ft), High Durability, for USB Type-C Devices Including the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nokia N1 Tablet, OnePlus 2 and More https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5GMZ6X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_X5w6ybQK9Q3MC
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] rubaiet:
I guess you are not that bright either since you couldn't find a simple cable for yourself and resorted to ask for help.

Next time you need help on a public forum maybe it's a good idea to pretend you are not a complete douchebag.

And i completely agree with other poster, you should Google yourself. We are not your servants.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ram8704:
Both of you are acting like children. The likely reason why its so hard to find is because the manufacturers likely consider the main use-case to be phone to phone data transfer or Phone to PC charge and data. In this scenario most people would want the devices relatively close together. It just might be too early for a cable like it to be widely available. I managed to find 1 (I think) on the amazon UK site. It comes in a pack of 5 cables with varied lengths. It appears they have the cable but I don't see it in a stand-alone pack just yet.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Cabl...id=1492431447&sr=8-37&keywords=usb+3.0+c+to+c
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] rubaiet:
I'm not sure why you are saying I acted like a child! I was merely saying that nobody is perfect and it's not okay to insult people. He didn't swear at me, he did it to someone else. I intervened as you just did.

Anyway, I guess you just misunderstood the context.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ram8704:
I did misunderstand. I would rather we all focus on trying to help OP and not flame each other. Figured calling it childish was the mildest way to put things.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] miektan:
here you go:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasi...rds=AmazonBasics+USB+Type-C+to+USB+Type-C+3.1
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] dumraden:
And cheaper:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-MacB...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CZ5W2214G82TAFF3CJQ9
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ram8704:
I looked for this the other day and only found the 5 pack. Good job.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] dumraden:
I basically clicked on the 5-pack you posted and it was one of the recommended items below. :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
It's USB 2.0 :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] Yashraj:
As a new member I can't post direct links yet but just go to Amazon's UK website and search "usb c 3.0 long" and you will tons of options. Not sure why you had such difficulty finding it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ram8704:
The one I linked to is definitely USB 3.0.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Cabl...id=1492431447&sr=8-37&keywords=usb+3.0+c+to+c
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories] ewokuk:
Yeah that one is, looks like a handy package. Irritatingly I already have everything except the 6ft/2m one but might go for this anyway since its only £8 more than the amazon basics 6ft cable, and you only get the 1 cable for that. I asked Anker since all the others I bought were Anker, and all they could say was they do make one but do not have any in stock and dont know when they will have more!
[YotaPhone] hippy dave:
So Marshmallow uses this new format for configuration files for apps on the EPD. Maybe we can start collecting recommended configurations for various apps? I noticed that the default files it comes with don't include the Kindle app this time, tho it had a default config in the old LP settings.

So, if you've found good settings for a particular app, please post them here! And I might go look on the Russian site to see if there are any there already - tho if one of the Russian-speaking users here wants to do that first I wouldn't complain :)

edit: I just found an app for editing the new configuration files, it's by x2009xxx on this hi-pda thread. Attaching for convenience. The button at the bottom to save the configuration and the toast that pops up when you do so aren't in English, but all the options are, so I'm pretty sure you can figure it out. (Don't forget to reboot to activate your changes)
[YotaPhone] ahigienix:
I am wondering is there possibility to set epd to full refresh after 5 pages or every page. There is no sign in readme file. I tried adding ""slowmode" : true" in the configuration cfg but notting happens.
[YotaPhone] hippy dave:
I'm not sure, but I have gathered that you have to reboot for changes to take effect.
[YotaPhone] ahigienix:
I know, when I change something (ex. dithering, sharpening etc.) there is effect but problem is that i don't see command which can set full refresh of epd screen after some interval (previously it was slowmode). I'm using moon+ reader (white letters on black background) and without full refreshing after some pages ghosting is terrific and reading seems to be nearly impossible.
[YotaPhone] cvzalez:
Remove the Android GUI transitions/effects on Developers Menu, not only makes your phone faster but it also helps EPD to have less ghost when using the other Android Apps, and folders...
[YotaPhone] hippy dave:
I just edited the first post to add a tool I found for editing the config files.

I'm looking at the readme.txt that lives in the epd_optimizer directory, and the option that sounds related to what you're talking about is "update_timeout - timeout of fullscreen update after content change. Use -1 to disable."
[YotaPhone] ahigienix:
Tried to change update_timeout value. There are some changes in update mode but EPD still not doing full refresh (like in Yotareader for example). Still after flipping some pages black background is full of gray shades from previously viewed pages. Tested on CoolReader, Moon+ FBreader, Allreader.

Is there anyone who figured out how to set full refresh of EPD in any book reader?
[YotaPhone] TheArt.:
Nice thread, I had in mind creating one like this. I haven't played with the configuration file yet, but I can post here what I found from other xda posts and a file from Russian Telegram group.

For Whatsapp (but I think it should work also on other similar apps) a configuration found here is the following:

{
"name": "com.whatsapp",
"description": "WhatsApp",
"dithering": "ATKINSON_BINARY",
"update_timeout": -1,
"sharpening": 2,
"contrast": 0,
"brightness": -5,
"stretch_black": 50,
"stretch_white": 220,
"regional_update": false
}

For Vkontakte (VK - Russian social network) I found this one:

{
"name": "com.vkontakte.android",
"description": "VKontakte",
"update_type": "GRAYSCALE",
"dithering": "ATKINSON_BINARY",
"update_timeout": 0,
"sharpening": 1.0,
"contrast": 50,
"brightness": 10,
"stretch_black": 50,
"stretch_white": 200,
"regional_update": true
}

Maybe we could develop some configurations for groups of apps: chat, social, e-book readers, office, browser, etc. and post them here!
[YotaPhone] asdfffffdsa:
Don't know if I'm missing something but I've tried all sorts of different values for dithering, update type, contrast, brightness, stretch_black, and stretch_white but after restarting nothing seems to have any effect. No matter what I do, everything just looks way too bright/low contrast and washed out. On the other hand, the Yotahub looks fine--deep blacks and easy to read.

This is on a YD206. Everything looked fine on lollipop. I submitted bug reports to yotadevices but they told me that the YD206 isn't supported. Anyone else having this issue? And if so, are you on YD206?

EDIT: Anyone know how to query what epd_optimizer settings an application is using? The backscreen is the only thing that looks good and AFAIK its package name is com.yotadevices.yotaphone2.launcherbs . Unfortunately there's no corresponding entry in the epd_optimizer directory.
[YotaPhone] ahigienix:
Here is a stock EPD_optimizer folder after OTA upgrade from 5.0. Try replacing your files and reboot.

I figured out that changing values via application make a mess in cfg files. Better to check package name using app, copy some stock cfg, rename it to package name and edit via Total Commander it works fine.

I have yd206 and changing values take effect but i can't set full EPD refresh.

From readme.txt

If these parameters are missing in app's configuration as well, the system will use parameters which defined in master.cfg configuration file. If this file is deleted, the system will use parameters that are stored within Android framework.
[YotaPhone] asdfffffdsa:
Thanks, I'm no longer using the app to modify the values as you suggested and changing settings has an effect now. (using vim in an arch chroot environment) Using your stock values for a separate firefox config seems to have improved things. Still not nearly as good as 5.0 but I can actually read text now.

However, there is this issue where from moment to moment the screen brightness seems to switch back and forth between two settings: a config with deeper blacks (clear) and a config that's too bright. It's almost as if there are two configs fighting for control. If I let the phone sit (so there are no screen updates), it will eventually settle on one of those configs but not reliably on any particular one--it almost seems random. I spent several hours trying a variety of different settings but I can't seem to get rid of this problem or manage a config that's comparable to 5.0.

At this point I think I'm just going back to 5.0 as I can't really put any more time into this. Maybe the problem will sort itself out in future releases but I'm not hopeful given the lack of support for the YD206.
[YotaPhone] ahigienix:
I have three yd206, one which firmware was sideloaded from 1.1.31 had simmilar to your EPD glitchs, try to delete your epd_optimizer folder, create new one and copy files from attachment, then do a hard reset. It helped me and now this yd206 runs flawlessly.
[YotaPhone] casaprocida:
I found the file /root/sdcard/TitaniumManager/mirror.cfg has some information similar to files in .../android/epd_optimizer and create a configuration for FBReader, but makins some test it seems nothing change.

Follow the last solution for my file org.geometerplus.zlibrary.ui.android.cfg

{

"name": "org.geometerplus.zlibrary.ui.android",

"description": "FBReader",

"dithering": "ATKINSON_BINARY",

"update_timeout": -1,

"sharpening": 1.0,

"contrast": 70,

"brightness": -10,

"stretch_black": 50,

"stretch_white": 220,

"regional_update": false

}

Have you any suggestion?
[YotaPhone] asdfffffdsa:
Hi, couldn't get this off of my mind so I took another stab at it. I've tried everything you've suggested but haven't been able to get things to an acceptable level. I've put together a couple images comparing 5.0 and 6.0 image quality (attached to this post) with the epd_optimizer .cfgs you've provided.

The two images have a few different icons on the home screen but demonstrate the difference in both brightness and clarity pretty well. I'm not saying those .cfgs didn't improve things--they definitely did (yes, it originally looked even worse than the 6.0.jpg image prior to using the .cfgs you provided) but it still doesn't look nearly as good. Looking at the 6.0.jpg image, you can probably imagine how difficult it would be to read an ebook or browse the web.

I think there's more to this than the .cfg files. Note that I upgraded to 6.0 by restoring the "MMB29M.6.0.1-RU1.1.147" backup provided in this thread via TWRP. I was coming from LRX21M.5.0.0-HK1.1.124d (I always clear the cache and dalvik between firmware changes of course).

EDIT: Whoops, I've mixed up the image names. Fixed the images.
[YotaPhone] GetSAS:
Excuse me i do not know about changing that values for the epd

but as a person who works and edits photos the difference between the pics is remarkable in my eyes

beacuse it seems to be that there are different grey scales that are produced, especially the black value.

You can edit every photo you made into greyscale (8bit or 16bit) and it normally looks fine.

but you can also convert it into a black/white (1bit) picture with a filter like diffusion and it is more grainy.

so for me it looks that the 6.0jpg is too grainy and is not the correct grayscale. It can be washed out but the black part seems not that fine as it is in the 5.0jpg pic.

maybe this isn't that important but i want to point on that.
[YotaPhone] asdfffffdsa:
I see, thanks for the insight. Maybe this will help with determining what's causing this.
[YotaPhone] rufy93:
I changed contrast in the master to 40, and I'm pretty happy with the results.

Full master file:

{
"name": "master",
"description": "This is default epd update setting. Please modify with caution.",
"update_type": "MONOCHROME",
"dithering": "STUCKI_BINARY",
"update_timeout": -1,
"sharpening": 1,
"contrast": 40,
"brightness": 10,
"stretch_black": 30,
"stretch_white": 220,
"regional_update": false,
"color_inversion": false
}
[YotaPhone] lgk350tr:
epd refresh problem

after i upgrade official stock 6.0.1 my epd stop refreshing. am i in the right place? i dont know how to change the values mentioned above. can someone help me please? thanks
[YotaPhone] Tippfehler:
My navigation program has the same probem. Too much ghosting. Is there a possibility, to set a refresh time? (Maybe a background program with timer and torch screen?) I can do it with developer options (show surface updates). Is it possible, to make a shortcut or start and stop it automatically?

If the yotaphone is in standby, the epd screen is constantly flashing (after 2 minutes) and I don't know, why.
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
I am experiencing the same. I own a YD206 converted to 201 and running lates MM OTA update.

EPD screen was fine for couple of days, but know ghosting is terrible specially when navigating thru full Android. Also black color on widgets is totally grayed out.

Right now I am trying the full discharge and leave it for couple of hours before I fully charge it.

Any other solution/suggestion on what to try? This is definetly a refresh problem which is not eliminating previous images.

Thanks
[YotaPhone] koayty:
From my experimentation, update_type is extremely useful

I start with a fixed update_type then I change other parameters to make it nicer.

I use "update_type": "GRAYSCALE_FINE" for image based app (comic/gallery/etc)

and I haven't fully tested it yet but "GRAYSCALE_READER" / "GRAYSCALE_READER_R" / "GRAYSCALE_READER_D" gives good result for text on epd
[YotaPhone] Tippfehler:
I have also tried to discharge, because my display has dead lines and it did not help.
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
Koayty, Are you referring to epd_optimizer directory and each app cfg?

Thanks
[YotaPhone] koayty:
Yes, that's referring to the text inside the cfg file in the internal storage/Android/edp_optimizer/ directory
[YotaPhone] Caferatte89:
Hello, do you know what is the difference between READER_R and READER_D?
[YotaPhone] koayty:
No, I don't.

I was hoping someone here can tell me that too
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
Ok, I am giving up with my EPD and black being gray and washed out.

I own a YD206 bought from Aliexpress couple of weeks ago. Phone worked fine, also after upgrading to MM via OTA (so I have RU build and CN baseband).

Now, EPD is having terrible difficulties in showing totally black. I am attaching some screenshots to show exactly how it appears. If I use white theme for YotaPanels, it looks pretty fine, but when entering Android mode on EPD, ghosting starts and black issue appears.

At this point I do not even have a clue if it could be hardware related or software related. To me looks like software issue (by the way, I just did a factory reset).

Picture 1 -> EPD Yotaphone picture when phone is off (see the black background totally gray, almost white. Weird is that when turning the phone on, same picture appears for 5 seconds with normal black background and then turns into picture 1).

Picture 2-> Yotapanel after clicking over X to leave Android on EPD and go back to Panels (YotaReader is bearly readable and lots of ghosting from Android background)

Picture 3 -> Android Homepage after leaving Android apps menu clicking over <

Picture 4 -> YotaPanel 2 after swithcing from YotaPnel 1 (see ghosting of widgets from YotaPanel1 and also white to black lines from transition left after YotaPanel 2 is loaded. This background should be totally black as in he very first column to the left). This behaviour does not occur when using White theme on YotaHub, Black text is totally black and transition animation is fine and does not leave any black lines.

Appreciate if anyone has any clue on what the root cause could be and if there is any workaround for this.

Also is anyone experiencing the same?

While reading books thru YotaReader, everything looks pretty fine and almost no ghosting appears.

Thanks
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
Ok, I gave it a try and used hairdryer for about 2 mins about 20cm away from EPD (in heat mode). After that, screen went back to normal and blacks are showing perfectly and almost no ghosting.

So, definetly a hardware problem, probably due to cheap EPD on YD206 version.
[YotaPhone] JavaDroid_:
hahah,

I did this test too, and I'm impressed with the result, thanks for the tip, solved 90% of this problem.

Was on android 6.0, but I got better results when I went back to the lollipop, my impression that epd works best for y206
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
Issue came back. Black sucks. I am still on Android 6. Discharged phone and kept it discharged overnight. In the morning I tried hairdryer again but this time no luck.

Do you think going back to Android 5 fixes somehow the issue?

Thanks
[YotaPhone] tero2012:
Which firmware did you flash to go back to Android 5? RU 1.1.124?

Thanks
[YotaPhone] JavaDroid_:
Correct completely I believe that there is no way, but minimize is possible, I tested a lot in 6.0.1 but there is something that does not leave the screen clean in any way,

So I decided to test in 5.0.1, 124b because it seems that epd presents better images for my yota.

I used the dryer (heat mode) pointed to the epd at a distance of 20cm for about 2 minutes, in the process I touched the screen a few times to move between the screens, at this moment already to see the results.

After the process, the screen improved yes, 70%, I say 70% because sometimes I still get the ghost screens, but the reduction is visible, and I say even acceptable if compared as before.

I will perform this process even more times to see if there is any improvement

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Android 5, EU 1.1.124