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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hatemarshmallow:
Just got active here again. I did try the freezer thing but didn't work for me. I have found a process where one uses USB JIG to put phones in download mode (if the battery is fully charged or charged enough) if the phone buttons are non responsive. I haveordered it from ebay. Let's hope it works. Once in download mode, I will try to flash it. Looking for the best procedure to flash it. not a technical guy.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
I ordered a Pixel from the Google Store on Monday and just received the package. I believe what I received was a return that

was repackaged and sold as new! The first thing I looked for was on the outside of the box

to see if the skew had a -B signifying an updated manufacture. On the box I received

there was a sticker over the original box with a new serial number.

I then fired up the device and checked by serial number what the manufacture date was.

Low and behold it was 10/2016! I also had the original firmware (I think it was 7.1).

How the hell can they be shipping a unit manufactured 5-6 months ago now and it be new?

I am sending the unit back today. This is a real shame if you ask me. Anyone else who ordered

recently get a manufacture date 10/2016?

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Charkatak:
My unit is 2 weeks old, but how to check by serial #?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] troy`:
How did you determine the manufacture date based on the SN?

Also, I believe if you got a refurb, it would actually have a newer android version on it... I cannot confirm this, but at the end of the refurb process I'd imaging they'd load whatever is current before testing.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Manufacture date

https://productforums.google.com/fo...QiMegDp6E;context-place=forum/phone-by-google

http://llabtoofer.com/2015/12/14/htc-devices-serial-number-explanation/

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Pixel

How is it possible they a unit sold 3 days ago has a manufacture date of 10/16? Also the overstick of the serial number

on the box was suspect.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] troy`:
I guess mine was made in Sept 2016

I find this very interesting. However I know they kept a ready stock for warranty replacements. Maybe they had more stock than needed and are selling some of the warranty stock?

Maybe someone who has gotten a verified refurb could let us know what build their refurb came with? In my experience with other devices, they always came back with a quite current built on them. The 7.1 is suspect to me that it's never been used.

I know the sticker over the previous info got brought up a while back and it was determined to be a box revision... unless that got proven wrong at some point.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Revision

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/5yyq80/revision_b_manufacturing_date/

Under my sticker was no -B version.

I will also point out I had purchased a Pixel on Swappa, it was great but had a few nicks, I resold it and then ordered this brand new one at the Google store. The first Pixel worked perfectly with my ATT sim. LTE was always there and lightning fast. This new one was toggling between LTE and H in my home where the other Pixel was solid LTE all the time. I also noticed to speaker volume was lower on the new unit I had rceived.

Now I don't know what to do. Reorder another? I don't want to get into the reorder cycle where it results in the same OLD units.

ANYONE out there with a 2017 manufacture date? If so when did you order and from where.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Rev B

This is what I was hoping to get:

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsIW_gxTpXX3s/?hl=by

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] krelvinaz01:
mine is a 2017-01-25

Got it from VZW Mar 22 online.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Date

Then that confirms what I suspected, I was sold either a return or refurb as new.

Thats not cool!

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] mikeprius:
What country are you in ? I bought mine in March and it was made mid Feb 2017 from the Google Store. Makes me wonder if international has anything to do with it.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bush911:
Have you reached Google, what about their comments?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
USA

I live in the USA. Bought directly from Google in the Fi Store. This makes me even angrier.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Charkatak:
After checking out the page for the serial # and mine is FA729, so it should be Feb 9th 2017? My unit was purchased new on eBay and seller didn't tell me that device had Verizon sim in it :( I thought I am buying Google edition.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] phil.spence:
Am I missing something here, why couldn't it just have been sitting around for 5-6 months? Also if it was a refurb (which are basically just returns right) then that only accounts for 2 more weeks anyway. As long as it's in new condition I wouldn't worry about it but regardless it's poor from Google if true.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Old

The Google store has been out of stock for weeks on the Pixel. If they had phones just sitting

around they would have been long gone. This whole experience make me very skeptical of

Google. If I order again I will wait for the Google store to have stock not Project Fi outlet.

I would like to hear from more people who had recently ordered if they received phones with a

2017 manufacture date.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] krelvinaz01:
Why don't you just contact google and be done with it?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] troy`:
Now that you mention Fi, I bet that has something to do with it. I noticed their stock seems to be different than the google store... they'll still let you buy the 6P and 5X to use their service. So maybe they keep more stock dedicated to Fi to ensure people signing up get the same type of walk out service you get from a regular carrier?... Just thoughts.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Google

I promptly returned the phone to Google yesterday within 14 day policy for full refund.

That part is done. I wasn't about to get into the exchange game.

My dilemma is whether to buy another one. I really liked the phone.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Fi

Would that be the reason to be more apt to sell refurbs or returned units?

If you goto the Google store the Pixel has been sold out for weeks.

Fi still has stock. Makes you wonder.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] troy`:
I'm definitely wondering too. But I'm suspecting they already had a large reserve for Fi so they could use that as a selling point. They stocked the older discontinued phones as well, you can get them new with Fi subscription. Example: you want to try Fi and want to get the new Pixel... well you're going to cancel your order if they say 4 weeks to get the service you're paying for. This leads me to believe you actually got one that was on the shelf for quite a while.

If you want to ensure you get a recently manufactured, I'd recommend watching the google store and ordering one as soon as it's available. Not that this guarantees anything, just my own speculation.

Edit: Has anyone else ordered the phone through Fi recently? Maybe we could check when theirs was manufactured.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Reply to Google

Taking the advice of my fellow users I sent the following email to Google:

James please forward this to the appropriate people:

I just wanted Google to be aware of my recent experience

I ordered a Pixel 128 gb Quite Black phone and received the phone 2 days ago

First thing I noticed that the box had a sticker over the original serial number with a new one.

I set up the phone and then went to see what the production date of the phone was because of soldering issues with the microphone I purposely waited so I could possibly get the ver B production which Google has admitted the fix in production was made in Jan 2017

The production date on the phone was 10/2016!

This I am almost positive was a refurb or a phone that was returned by someone else

How Google can have inventory from release date in inventory is highly unlikely unless it was a refurb or return

I have gotten a return authorization and returned for a full refund. Still on the regular Google store the Pixel is not available.

I was really disappointed in the whole experience and just wanted to convey to you my frustration

Can you tell me how a phone that has virtually sold out have a manufacture date of 10/2016 5 months later? Also why was the serial number on the box over stuck with a new one?

So that leaves me now with waiting for my refund and no phone. I am afraid to reorder from Fi and am contemplating waiting for the google store to get inventory.

I will let you know their response.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] milan187:
It was sold out but not from all channels. It happens that a batch left behind then gets moved somewhere else and so on.

Just because it was manufacturers earlier doesn't have to mean it's been packed right away either. Sometimes it takes a while to get to packing.

I think you made a mistake by returning for that reason.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Pixel

I would rather get a phone that has the mic problem solved (solder break on board)

Google has admitted a fix from phones manufactured from Jan 2017. Thats why

I returned it. From what I hear this problem can surface at any time especially in temperature

swings.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/09/some-google-pixel-phones-are-having-microphone-issues/

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] milan187:
That was also 1% of phones or less. Mine has been manufactured Spetember. It's been flawless. Plus there is warranty. Really not much to worry about in my opinion.

I worked for BlackBerry for 10 years. Unless you have internal access you can't know what it has been through. A brand new device of the line can fail testing and be repaired up to 3 times and still sold as brand new.

In other words there is no real way to know what the perfect device is. Manufacturing date does not mean much.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Pixel

If thats true then that makes me believe even more a product being sold as new 5 months after release date had to go through

some sort of repair. I was never aware of what you are saying. Thats eye opening.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] milan187:
It's true all manufacturers do it for electronic devices. Unfortunately there is no way to know. Device you bought was likely sitting on a shelf somewhere. Maybe a batch got moved to the wrong location. It's also possible it went through some repair though that's usually a couple of days, not months. We will never know these things unless you had internal contacts.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] oxfordmark:
Just got my Pixel from EE UK and the Serial starts:

FA69J031..... Thats a2026 model then?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Shouldn't this be the end of the discussion?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] jmartin72:
If the phone is remanufactured, that's not a bad thing. I used to work for Dish Network, and we used to install a lot of remanufactured electronics as new. The way they got away with is that a remanufactured part has to pass lot's of additional tests than one coming straight off the line, so a Reman. is known more solid of a performer.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] mikeprius:
I'm glad that I got my phone later after the microphone problems were solved. Moving forward I won't be getting phones right when they come out. Between this and the exploding Note 7, I'd rather jump in after the product has some time to get throughly reviewed

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Hate to sound pessimistic ,but I'd be surprised if the OP gets any real answers. The times I've tried Google customer service and ask something beyond a very very basic question they didn't know what was going on. Last time I call the person had no idea what I was referring to, so I hung up on her, and eventually figured out the issue on my own.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Date

Yes thats 2016 model. Does that not aggravate you that you just purchased and got

the initial batch of the phone that has known problems?

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Ridiculous. I have the same model basically, same year and the device is flawless. Are you just looking for something to complain about? Why not just return the device and buy something else if you are so aggravated? This whole thread is pointless being that you have recourse if you want to return it due to any problems you might or might not have. There is no reason to instigate trouble if you have a way out of your misery. It's lamentable that you made this a mission. Perhaps it's time to move on, no?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
Pixel

Relax bro, I am just pointing out and wondering how this happens, I have already got the refund and

now reordered on the regular Google store in which it ships in 4 weeks. This will be the new batch.

Enjoy your flawless phone. I did not have that enjoyment.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
It's been explained how that happens and also that there is nothing sinister about it. I know you returned yours but why are you trying to get others riled up, "hey man, aren't you aggravated?" And incorrectly assuming that there are known problems with the entire line of Pixel devices manufactured in 2016. It's simply not true as per my flawless (and many others') devices. You initially believed you got a refurb when purchased as new. That would surely be a problem but, as you have also been informed, that was not the case. I understand you got a device you were not happy with and have since gotten satisfaction with the return policy. Perhaps that should be your focus now is all I'm saying cuz.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] oxfordmark:
Phones fine, touch wood.

Plus I have the same warranty as new phones
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] max553:
I'll laugh if he gets a rev. A again... But I guess we'll never know.

On a serious note ; I don't know why this bothered you so much. Not all REV A phones had the microphone issue. If yours did not, then this means you just made the "REV A" marking (or the production date) a problem, which in my opinion, is pointless. Your REV B device - if you get one - might also have a defect. Just because it was produced after Jan. 2017 doesn't mean it WILL be flawless.

I got my Pixel replaced because of an issue that hasn't been reported by anyone yet, it was a very unique problem. But I still managed to get it replaced, and I got a rev A again, and it looks all good so far.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] kartnite:
I bought mine from the local retail store (a leading chain no less) today - I had been following up on an offer for the past week - and I noticed ALL the Pixels and Pixel XLs in stock were from October 2016. Out here where I am now, I didn't have a choice and I was informed that even those in their warehouses were part of the same batch.

While I can confirm mine turned out to be new (and not refurbished/repackaged, etc.), the experience did feel rather odd. Guess it has a lot to do with the market/region, the demand, etc.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] ssagar186:
I can verify that refurbished phones do not have a recent android version loaded necessarily. I am on my third pixel as the first two failed. This one shipped with the november security update and I received the phone in the beginning of April.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
I give up

Well I am still waiting to reorder as the Pixel 128 gb Black has been out of stock it seems like forever.

I am just going to forget getting the Pixel at this point. The fact that they have no stock 6 months later is

inexcusable.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] milan187:
You had a likely perfect phone and returned it.

The stock issue is a different story. Carriers around here stopped selling 128GB models.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] amateurninja:
Is there a secret code of some sort that you can use to figure out if the Pixel I have is new or refurbished? I got a phone off eBay and I wonder if I have a refurb device.

I know some Samsung phones have RTN info that tells you if the phone is refurbished - *#*#786#*#*
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] krelvinaz:
you already asked this in a separate thread, why are you asking again?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] amateurninja:
Sorry, I was typing it out here and then decided to create a new thread and didn't realize that I actually ended up asking here too. My bad. :)
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] martan1981:
I bought a pixel last week and according to sn number it was manufactured September 2016. Strange indeed, but as long as everything works perfectly, I don't really mind.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] fiffan86:
personally, i would have kept it, you still have the 1 year warranty from when you bought it, not the manufacture date, if any issues show up.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] sam.crowther:
mines a replacement under warranty and is 2016/09/17

the imei is a smaller number that my original too, so i guess my replacement is older than the one i bought?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] cc999:
replacement

That makes no sense and is without a doubt a refurb. Just like I was speculating on my new purchase.

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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Ktroutman:
Sorry the off-topic, but is true that Pixel phones made in 2017 do not have lens flare issue?. Anyone?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] oxfordmark:
Just had a replacement phone, serial is now FA74L
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] anantk1965:
Even my Pixel manufacturing date as per HTC S /N FA6AX03***** decodes to October 2016, which was purchased last week in India.

But surprisingly, manufacturing date on the label of the Pixel box shows May 2017. I contacted Google Pixel support, but they said they cannot trust the HTC S/N decoding method, as it is not published officially. I should consider manufacturing date printed on the Pixel box lable to be the correct date.

But I am not convinced, as we know that HTC S/N decoding method is very accurate. So now I am wondering how come the Oct 2016 Pixel is present in May 2017 box, though IMEI number matches!!

Surprisingly, Google support even do not have information of Pixel date manufacturing, if we provide them Pixel S/N and IMEI number. Can't believe, google is not able to trace their own device's manufacturing date!!

Did you check the label on the Pixel box to see what manufacturing date it shows ? Do let me know, in case you also see this date discrepancy.
[Honor 5C Questions & Answers] zaphan58:
Does anyone know where I can find the default Honor 5c (NEM-L51) messaging app apk? I uninstalled it and backed it up with Titanium Backup but for some reason it won't restore :crying:

I currently have it uninstalled and use Androids own messaging app instead. But for some reason lately I am finding text messages are disappearing and deleting themselves before I get chance to read them. Not sure if this is Androids app problem or not but I'd like to give the default app a try again.
[Honor 5C Questions & Answers] thelous:
im not sure if you can install it again with different devoce's emui ID and everything, do you have twrp backup of old rom? you could try pulling it from old backup
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookie Ninja:
I have a Moto E 2015 XT1521 (4g/LTE India, Dual SIM). Yesterday My phone rebooted when I was trying to force data connectivity on 3G by switching to airplane mode and back, and the phone lost its baseband (No SIM cards detected, Baseband unknown displayed, no wifi either). Was running 5.1.1 LP Tesla OS. Reflashed with stock XT1521_SURNIA_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPI23.72-65_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml (was on this ROM b4 changing to Tesla last year). Still baseband unknown, Flashed the two NON-HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn from the same 5.1.1 ROM. Still no baseband. Can I flash the two files from the 5.0 initial release / 6.0 MM final release Stock ROMs (RETASIA Indian ROMs)? How can I get my radio baseband back?

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[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookie Ninja:
Bump.....Anyone willing to help?

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[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sher1234:
Can't say what happened, but you can try flashing latest 6.0 MM but won't guarantee it will work or not,

Never heard of this problem before
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookie Ninja:
Just a bit wary / reluctant to upgrade. Bootloader version changes and cannot be downgraded, more chances of a brick if trying to downgrade.

Personally i have liked LP and user opinion says that MM upgrade makes the phone lag, stutter and possibly phone lacks appropriately boosted ROM/hardware. Should I take the plunge?
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sher1234:
Yeah that might cause the problems

No​ offence but I liked the Marshmallow Update

& Its up to You if you want to give it a try or not

But not sure it will work or not
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookie Ninja:
OK, so i took the plunge and flashed the MM stock ROM as advised by [MENTION=7228951]Sher1234[/MENTION] in the fond hope that IMEI and Baseband will be restored, but at the end of it i have been awarded with a MotoE that works like a tablet sans WiFi and SIM cards (No radio baseband, NO IMEIs)!

Terminal commands for flashing were all OK, see attached txt file for ref (flashed from a Linux 32 bit machine)

Spoke to the repair guy, who advises a motherboard change (which will cost Rs 2500-3500). I am wondering if it's worth it or not.
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Letitride:
I own and use XT-1521 here in the U.S. - are you using the latest squid TWRP specific to the Moto E ? Did you do a factory reset, wipe clean and then a fresh/new install, etc. Did you verify your micro-sim cards are valid & working on another smartphone. Checked your APN settings for the network being used ?

If they all checked out, try switching in/out of Airplane Mode - so everything works in WiFi mode, including WiFi (VoIP) calling mode ?

I have been running Remix rom for a while, using the latest - might want to give it a try. https://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/orig-development/rom-resurrection-remix5-5-1-t3160059
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookie Ninja:
[MENTION=2556508]Letitride[/MENTION], the SIMs work on other phones. Yes, using Squid's TWRP recovery. System does not see any SIMs on the phone and WiFi fails to initialize, and the same happens with the FM radio too. Cannot disengage/engage airplane mode, as that tile is greyed out.

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[Android Software Development] sir mordred:
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[Android Software Development] dragoi90:
I did my review!
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I will definitely rate, thanks for this. Wanted to know if support was possible but the script wasn't working for me. Thanks again :D.
[Android Software Development] DrVladson:
So... Link is dead? :)