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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi Ttblondey,

TO SOLVE 1:

If you load up the Navizon software then check the settings. On my MDA Vario III I have the following:

On the GPS tab:

GPS: COM4: (ActiveDevice)

Baud Rate: 4800

Auto start is ticked

Output port: Off

Use Physical output port is ticked.

On the Account tab you should enter the account name and password you registered with - without those nothing syncs.

If your settings are correct you should see three green lights for Phone, Wifi and GPS after you start the software - it can take a little while to get going.

Your phone should now pick up Access Points (via Wifi) and Cells (Via the Phone) at which point you should see a count appear at the bottom of the screen.

It will start with "0 APs and 0 Cells located" then as it finds a site (either AP or Cell) those numbers will increase e.g. if it found 3 Access Points and 1 Cell Tower you would see 3 APs and 1 Cell located.

Once those numbers show on the counter your phone is seeing sites and you can sync then to add points to your account (Menu > Sync)

It can take a few hours for them to update the points showing on your account so be patient (mine took around 4 hours to appear at first).

TO SOLVE 2

Number 1 is probably the cause - fix that first and see how it goes....

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi jagr

Firstly register here: http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5D565A5C5A57

This gives you a user name and password with Navizon.

Then you need to get the right software for your device here: http://www.navizon.com/download.asp

Install it to your device and setup as shown in my post above (user name etc and GPS settings)

To answer your other question - I have the Lite version and track APs AND Cell Towers with no problems - I think the premium version is for people with handsets that dont have wifi - if yours does then lite willl be fine :-)

Let me know if you have any problems.

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
Sorry , but this seems like you are just spamming your referral code.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
I was making sure he (and any new readers of this post) have registered first of all as without registering he/others won't be able to sync and get points for themselves.

If I offer my referral code at the same time he/others that use it don't lose out by using it so I don't see any harm in my posting of it? If they are registering anyway a few extra points passed to me are no loss to them or anyone here.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Ttblondey:
Thanks, I'll get in touch with you again.About Paypal ,I don't have the account for it.Guess i can't make some cash.

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] plchan:
It seems your link contains a referral code. Do you also get any extra pts by getting any referrals?

http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx

Just found it from the FAQ page.

And that's it! As soon as they	start using Navizon with a GPS device, 20% of their points will	go straight into your account. So if you know people who drive a	lot (like Taxi drivers or Truck drivers for example), you will	be able to sit down, relax, and earn money while they drive.​

Please note that:​

- the people you refer to the	system will not make less points because they are referred by	someone: the 20% of their points you will	earn come in addition to the points they would normally	earn if they weren't referred by anyone. So they have nothing to	lose by entering your Referral code.​

- if your friend has started	using Navizon before, it will not work. Even if they register a	new profile with your referral code. If they started using	Navizon before you sent them your referral code, it means that	they knew about the system before you sent them your email and	you aren't the first one who introduced them to the system.	​

- The points you earn	thanks to the people you refer to Navizon also count for the	Navizon	contest. So if you thought you had no chance in this	contest, think again.. you can now compete with "big boys" if	you know people who drive a lot.​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi plchan,

As you posted I do get some refferal point BUT it won't affect your earning of points. As you posted from Navizons site:

Please note that:

- the people you refer to the system will not make less points because they are referred by someone: the 20% of their points you will earn come in addition to the points they would normally earn if they weren't referred by anyone. So they have nothing to lose by entering your Referral code.

I would appreciate it if you could register using my refferal code for this reason.

Thanks

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Ttblondey:
I would like to know whether I need to connect to internet or gprs in order to go to their server or just the gps built in will do.I'm quite confusing about this.

cheers:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FlyEvolution:
I downloaded and installed this to my kaiser and have been racking up points, but have noticed a problem.

**** likes to crash a lot. I racked up like 500 something AP's and 20 Cells and hit stop so i could upload it and it locked up my phone and I had to restart.

Sucks pretty bad.

If they expect people to contribute to this project, they could at least make their software not crash when submitting the data they need.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chuby007:
Referal code...

Look guys, I don't see what's the problem about getting in that site with the referal code, one has to learn to be kind, maybe you will make 20-30-500 bucks, and why not share it with the person that was kind enough to show you how to make a free buck ? it only seems fair to me !

you know, on the web sometimes you can't really "pay" people for their services, ( well sometimes you can do a paypal donate ) but other times you can't, so for instance when I go to a site, and If I find the information they give me usefull, like here on XDA developers, and I see advertisement around, normally I check the sponsors.. why ? well because it is my way of saying thank you, because I know that the publisher will earn a few cents ( yes cents ) for me clicking on an sponsor ( and visiting and sometimes even buying something) , so I think it is only FAIR.

one takes the Web for granted, a little too much, internet is not a right, it is a priviledge, have anyone stopped to think how much does the server to host this place costs ? can the owner afford the bills ? is he earning something by all his hard work ? sometimes we just don't think, and we are ungratefull for the things we have.

so yes when I get my kaiser, most likely i will use the nav service, and if i do i will make my account with zippyioa ref number, just to thank him, because he was kind enough to help me get a free buck =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
It seems to log to file so you're not loosing what you logged, mostly. I guess you haven't experienced it locking up your GPS port (so it nor any other GPS program can access the GPS) so have to soft-reset, it parks its 2MB ass in ram even after you "exited", locks up the entire phone, you press stop and it "wait-cursors" forever, or uploads and wait-cursors forever, etc etc.

You could try the Modaco CamerAware beta client that MIGHT be more stable. http://www.modaco.com/content/Windo...amerAware-BETA-aka-CamerAware-hearts-Navizon/

However, since it uses the Navizon API, it suffers from the same uploading issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi again Ttblondey,

GPS is used for navigation - not internet - and doesn't cost you

GPRS is for internet and dependent on carrier can cost you - so check your providers cost.

Navizon uses your phones:

Wifi to find Access Points (no cost*)

phone to find cell towers (no cost*)

GPS to find where you are so it can map the access points and cell towers (no cost*)

(As far I understand it none of these are chargeable or use data).

The position of access points and cell towers is stored in a file which is sent to Navizon which will need a data connection when you sync (Menu>Sync).

By default Navizon is set to sync once per day (at which point it would probably use your GPRS data connection and may cost if you are charged) however you can disable the auto sync and choose to do it manually - at this point you could use Wifi or an Activesync connection to avoid data charges.

You can stop the auto sync as follows: Menu > Options > Data > Remove the tick from Auto sync daily

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Thanks for the vote of appreciation chuby007 and welcome to the world of the Kaiser (well almost) :-)

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi Everyone,

I registered at around 7am on Friday 11th January and I have just gone over 10,000 points today. This means I get to claim my first $20 reward - not bad in less than one week!!

When I redeemed the reward they advised me that it takes a few days to pay (I guess due to Paypal delays?) so I will update you all when I actually have the money in my Paypal account.

Thanks

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] y2whisper:
up to 2000 points just going from work to home it did crash on me a couple of times as well, an update came out and so far it hasn't crashed (but only went on two trips..to the gym and to work)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cwerdna:
Wow! $200!?!? I've only been using it since late December 08 or January 09 and I've gotten my first $10, used my next reward on an upgrade to the premium version so that I can earn additional rewards. I'm at 28K points now but should be at over 30K (for another $10) by the end of the month because I'm going on vacation to a different geographic area.

This app would be perfect for taxi, delivery and shuttle drivers along w/anyone else who works in the field.

The app came out for the iPhone 3G not too long ago. So, iPhone 3G users can rack up points now too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
I haven't had that problem personally - it seems to work fine for me.

The two files might be 1) The latest version of Cameraware and 2) the latest version of the speed camera database?

Does it download them everytime you run it?

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] josefcrist:
i am talking about the navizon client not camera aware. also sometimes when i try to sync camera aware it says no sync required.

BUT

I just cashed in my first reward today. I think that you got me hooked. I am waiting for the money in my paypal right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vcespon:
Yes, having phone, WiFi and GPS active all the time drains the battery, I usually get 4 hours from the internal battery if running Navizon continouslly. During a recent trip to France I carried the phone on all the time, running Navizon, powered by an external 5400 mAh battery. I collected 60000 points in 5 days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
I'm not sure what its downloading then! I have never seen Navizon do that, but I only use Cameraware now so it may be something on a newer version?

Mine does say "no sync required" sometimes - this happens when it hasn't collected many points since the last sync, so there is no need for it to perform another one.

I am glad you are enjoying it. I also got very hooked on it, getting a lot of rewards to start with.... I still get a few now and then almost 16 months on!

Many people post here about the rewards being too low to bother about. I am sure these people are making special trips in a car, using petrol/gas and finding they don't earn enough rewards to pay for it.

As long as you use Navizon on a journey you were gonig to do anyway, the money you earn is nothing more than a freebie - how can that be bad???

As for battery life, it does fly through battery due to using phone, WIFI and GPS at the same time.

I normally use mine in the car with a charger so its not a problem, but if I am walking (e.g. round a big city) I carry a spare battery and swap it over when the 1st gets low!

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] josefcrist:
i have a large external battery and a car charger. we should set up an xda group on navizon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kcrumbley:
Yeah, I always run Navizon while I'm driving. Even when taking a walk with my wife. I don't get as many rewards now, but I see it as a bonus to getting where I was going originally. It's nice to get a few extra dollars once in a while! I have an extended battery and between my wife and I (both with Tilts), we have 2 OEM and 3 extended batteries that we take with us when we drive!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Try out the new version. I and a few others PPCGeekers I selected have done a lot of beta testing to work out many bugs. The many freezes should be eliminated or reduced greatly. Also vga screens are now supported properly.

This is for all you old users who may have given up on the software and anyone new that would like to join. Click the link in my signature to sign up. You can earn money while driving around town and on trips.

http://www.navizon.com/downloads/NavizonCab_3_5_2_6.CAB
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamieay:
New Version Crashing!

I just loaded up the new version - it is crashing on launch. Attached are screen snapshots showing the error - any guesses? I'm running Shifu's WM 6.1 Naked with SPB Mobile 3.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
If you are having issues with crashes/running of Navizon, I would suggest you try MoDaCo's excellent Cameraware. I have placed a link for the latest version in part 2 of my signature below :D

It is basically Navizon running behind MoDaCos brilliant speed camera warning program.

As far as I know, the speed camera warnings only work in the UK. If you live overseas, or dont want to pay the one off £19.99 cost (including all future updates!) to activate speed camera warnings, you can set it up to use the Navizon API without the speed camera bit. Like Navizon, its global and FREE.

The best bit is that many users have found Cameraware FAR more stable than Navizon itself - BONUS - you still get the rewards, but you lose the annoying lockups! :D

As with Navizon you need to register (you can do this using part 1 of my signature below), then install the software and input your Navizon credentials to start clocking points on your account.

Any questions, just ask.

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Do a complete uninstall. Uninstall then delete the navizon program folder. That should fix your problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
New version 3.5.2.7 is available. Also cab is attached if autoupdate doesn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kcrumbley:
Have they finally fixed the freezing and crashing problems?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
If not fixed they are very close. I did a ton of beta testing and it is a lot better than it used to be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] radtech49:
I am using the verizon xv6800 and navizon keeps activiating my data service. Could it be that it is not using data even though the phone says it is connecting to dial up. I am not real saavy with the differences here so could you shed a bit of light on whether it us needing to constantly use wifi or data. I shut the data off and in a few seconds it turns it back on again. If you can help I would appreciate. I really want to use the program but keeping data running 24/7 is not my option. in advance, thank you for responding.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
It depends upon how you are using the software. Using remote database mode requires a data connection all the time since it is loads maps of your current position. Using local database mode does not load maps but will try to auto sync data when a connection can be made. If you are just logging this is the mode for you. Also to prevent any data connections select work offline. But you will only be able to manually or automatically sync your data when you unselect work offline mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tytntracker:
New version

I have the Blackstone running the 3.5.2.7 version. It keeps freezing on me. Pop up message indicates that there is an even newer version available.

My problem is that Navizon crashes when I try to download the update.

Any CABs around with the newest version?

Rgds

Anders
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Just so all know a way to get the updater to not fail is to run the downloader from file explorer and not through the navizon program. This never produces error or failures. I cant upload the cab for some reason. Below is a link for the cab. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1015238#post1015238
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
Navizon version 7 and 8 keep on crashing! Or it runs for a few minutes and when I want to sync, it crashes!

Last I finally had a big trip (three mayor cities), and I could not get it to work, very annoying. Using CamarAware now for a few day's and did not have a crash, so I was able to score a 1500 points. With the current holiday's I will go to places other than the usual home-work-home trip, so having a relaiable pieces of software is essential.

Using it on a tytn II with a custom rom 6.1 and together with Navigon sat nav.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Select work offline and only sync after you are done logging. This is assuming you are only logging for points.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
You assumed right!

Question: is there a possibility to save the data? ie I'm going abroad in a couple a day's, can I save the points gathered and sync when returning home? (This to avoid additional costs)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
work offline means exactly what it states. You are working offline and syncing is not possible. When you want to sync just unselect. Also I recommend you make a copy of your Naploc file because I have been having issues with points not displaying. That way if there is a problem you can just copy the Naploc back to the folder and try again another day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
Ok ,thanks, I'll give that a try.

Thanks to CamerAware I could redeem another reward today :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Cameraware has always been a GREAT way to access the Navizon rewards scheme!

Cheers Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Yeah it is the only way to get past the freezes that navizon has. But I do think the newer version 3.5.2.8 helps out a lot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
And you must be especially exited because I used you referral to sign up to the service :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Thank you for doing that Pandor!

If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
Note: does CamerAware has this same feature? To save the points if syncing is not ticked! also after closing the app.

I did not try it, i must say. It's easier to ask. :) I live in a points lacking environment, and want to be sure that if collecting that it works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
You can collect points even with syncing unticked. I assume you ask this as you want to avoid using data when out and about?

When you are done collecting you can close the app, then sync your new points when you get home using an activesync/wifi connection.

Not totally sure I get what you mean by "also after closing the app".

When you close the app it is no longer running, so it does nothing until you launch it again.

Hope that helps you?!

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pandor:
With "closing the app" i mean - during the day collecting the points, and after use to close it (completely) to start collecting the next day, and syncing when I return back home.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 4n60:
Hey guys, I got one question - is there someone who got money to his paypal already? You know, just proof of that they're paying out... thanx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamieay:
They're legit - I've been paid out many times...

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
Hi,

I have had many payouts from them since I started using Navizon in Jan 2008. The most recent one was at the start of August.

For each $10 payout they deduct $0.19 to cover Paypal fees. I dont mind this as the whole scheme is money for nothng anyway!

If you have any more questions please ask.

Cheers

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thekillingroad:
Hello,

Does this still work in all countries?

I've made some reading but couldn't stand all the 60 pages =)

Some said in worked in Turkey, well, what can I lose for giving a shot..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zippyioa:
I havent tried it anywhere except for UK and France, but in theory it should work anywhere!

As you said, you have nothing to lose from trying it.

Thanks

Zippyioa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
New version 3.5.3.2 is out. I suggest a sync before install. Then completely uninstall and delete navizon folder and registry(If you fell comfortable).

http://www.navizon.com/downloads/navizoncab_3_5_3_2.cab
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
So is there a rom any Kaiser users have found to not freeze navizon. It seems that the freezing is kinda rom dependent. Anyone have any suggestions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamieay:
For me, most (if not all) of the freezing has to do with exiting the program. The key seems to be to sync Navizon and to manually stop collection before exiting. If I try to exit with a large number of un-sync'ed AP's and Cell Towers, things hang up pretty quickly. Also, sync fairly often - I try not to log more than ~500 APs without syncing.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Well I can't sync while running since I don't have a data plan. But I get navizon to crash constantly while running in areas of high ap numbers. Like 30 or more aps. So what rom do you run?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamieay:
I use shifu's excellent series of 6.1 ROMs. Currently running shifu's v17 naked with SPB Mobile Shell, as well as Radio 1.70.19.09.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
Well I got shifu rom V17 lite to freeze navizon alot. I would think the naked would be worse with less ram. Anyone else have any suggestions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] burtcom:
I've kinda given up on this for now -- with wifi and gps continously going it makes my kaiser hot and sucks the battery :)

Not sure about the business model they working on either -- it seems to me that most smart phones coming out that will be capable of running their software will have GPS built-in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamieay:
Uhm.. The naked has MORE RAM available, not less.

And mine hasn't frozen yet with this setup. Very stable.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
No the naked V17 does not have 101ram. So it actually has less free ram. The lite has 75mb and naked has 59mb. Does one of the older naked have the ram hack? Also which version of Navizon do you run?

I agree the model is bad. But that means we have to get as much money from them logging before they go under.

Also yes the battery and phone do get hot but that is why I use it while it is plugged in while i drive the car. It does over heat some but if the air is on there are no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drewcam888:
A warning to all 3.5.3.0 users.

I want everyone to know that many syncs are required to get all your data uploaded now. There is now a folder called toupload in Navizon. Until this folder is empty you have not successful uploaded all your data. I suggest you go back to 3.5.2.8 to avoid this problem. I suggest you sync all data before changing version.