yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Well I would sufgest you clean flash first before we debug anything and second it might be useful if you can fetch some logs for us. Try to search "how to get logs on android" on google.. I can give you the link but I'm too lazy. We cant fix anything if we dont really know what triggers your problem.
[Nexus 5X General] :
Any news for your kernel?

A new kernel is always VERY interesting so I'm awaiting it so much ?
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
Yupp I've posted the kernel. Current version uploaded is march25b. Uploading today's stable one soon (gimme an hour or so).

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3770459
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3770459 ;)
[Nexus 5X General] BrewingHeavyWeather:
I have had set the max even slower, at 1.2GHz/1.2GHz (little/big), and have tried different speeds, since then. It spends so little total time in the highest speeds, with this profile, that there's been no discernible difference in battery life, in my usage, anywhere from 1.4/1.4 to 1.6/1.8, though the latter is more prone to offlining the big cores (ETA: that's what made me try OC on the little and UC on the big, but it doesn't seem to make much difference, except when I'm logging CPU stats, after trying different max speeds for 2-3 days each). I'll probably go back to either stock speeds or 1.4/1.4, when it's time to flash for a security update that matters.
[Nexus 5X General] Milan P.:
That's very weird as the max CPU frequency for the little cluster is 1.4 MHz. The big cluster should be max 1.8 Mhz. I'm not sure how to fix your problem.
[Nexus 5X General] ttocs99:
I'm a 6p user and I'm using this official glass cannon, is it safe to use on my device also disabled 2 cores so running on 6 like 5x
[Nexus 5X General] Lughnasadh:
There is one made specifically for the 6P....

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71797603&postcount=4773

But if you are asking if you can still use it running on only 6 cores, yes, you can use the one in the link above running on only 6 cores.
[Nexus 5X General] ttocs99:
Thanks.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
The picture with the mono substratum theme is scrolling through Google plus and entering communities and so and so, the other one similar to the CPU times but is not themed is Instagram, and the higher CPU times is Snapchat for the heavier use. Pretty similar to what I posted before but as you can see at heavier usage the rates totally skip everything in between and stay higher, and of course they went back down when I went to take a screenshot. Used airplane mode also during the day. And basically the apps on the battery screen list is all that I used plus this. Pretty impressed.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Go ahead and try it yourself ;) but mine will come up on top *wkwkwkwkwk intensifies* ?
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
You have done a lot more than anyone in this testing phase and you will earn a spot at the tower of wakawaka in the credit section once released lol.

Anyways you have great stats but I was wondering why it sticked to 1500mhz so much for the little cores if all you do is browsing etc. Also 3 hrs to almost 4 hrs of SoT is average to amoled devices with no compulsary hardware changes (unlike samsung edge 7 and 8 which optimized their chipset, coding and amoled screen)

Care on trying to play a game / heavy game for the sake of moarrr testing? Reset your cpu stats first and complete another daily use and post it here.. if it still sticks to 1500mhz I might edit something (or not) then on your next cycle reset the cpu times again and try to play games :svetius:

Looking forward for the results! Have a great day.. btw what's much better to eat? A pizza or lasagna? This is the worst crisis in my life...
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Pizza all day! ? and sweet, I just wanna help man, this type of stuff is actually fun to me, and being able to help in such a project is an honor. and aye games is my specialty :cool: I got a battery pack during school so I would probably juice up but then again I probably won't need to. I'll do another daily usage cycle tomorrow. And since Friday I have school off ill go the extra mile. I'll do some light games and graphic intensive games and reset cpu stats and screen shot them one at a time like I did today. Just tell me what to do Captain ? oh BTW back on dirty unicorns. I just figure out it was the moto actions and stuff that ruined my idle time as well as the data connection. Just letting yah know. Oh and I also have arise sound modifications so like during Spotify or maybe even native mp3 files the battery might or might not drain faster, I never noticed anything but just thought I'd let you know the specifics of my setup.
[Nexus 5X General] spartan268:
I think that reboot or keyboard change did WONDERS. Now it's a whole lot more smoother so i wouldn't be surprised if maybe a setting didn't get applied properly the first time around. As I type this its feeling a whole lot more better overall and performance seems to be ironed out. I don't do much heavy stuff so maybe I'm not the best baseline for that but this is a thumb up so far. Screenshots attached of my usage and cpu
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Great pizza it is!

Thanks and I will wait for the next screenshots, atm I am waiting for [MENTION=5485572]spartan268[/MENTION] for the cpu cycles and his comments since I might be changing some stuffs and separate lg g4 tweaks with n5.

Arise does not drain battery, v4a does. And I agree with some sound mod developers as well as myself (I am an audiophile) that v4a, increasing volumes, convolvers, and most mods that can be seen here are for noobs (no hate). The real sounds should be not using any equalizers but configuring audio_codec and audio lib files. Spotify drains like hell though.

I'll wait for the next stats! Good job :)
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Nice third screenshot its so informative :silly: lol

Just as I mentioned you, you pop up immediately and Im glad it worked out for you. Blackberry keyboard might have less memory footprint but if it sacrifices your interaction with your cat I say ditch it. Also if you have never experienced any lags with that keyboard before with other tweaks then that means it neeeeeds a lot of frequency behind the hood and therefore sacrifices more battery than you'd expect, as GlassCannon tends to stick to frequencies lower if you are just typing or reading.

Btw if you are lagging on apps that are online or loads pages online, the lags are normal and it is not caused by the frequency alterations, those were caused by poorly rasterized webpages :)
[Nexus 5X General] spartan268:
I figured as much for online pages. My wifi has been acting up lately anyways. We'll see if on the weekend anything changes since did consider my self a bit more on the heavyweight side since i got no work on those days.

As it stands right now. Looks like you got yourself a winner. Are you gonna leave it as is or possibly make another edit?
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
If all goes well we will proceed with the beta phase (leaving this as is is absolutely a NO NO for me, I am very nitt picky about this testings so I hope everyone has the patience) my plans on beta phase are to release another tweak with just small adjustments (preferably to tap more into the battery side) so we will have something like this:

(a) the original GlassCannon alphatest build (the controlled variable) proven to be effective (if all goes well) and so on

(b) Same tweak and principles but with very minor adjustments (the experimental variable) to test out with everyone.

It should be A over B comparison, because this will never be a test if we don't compare anything and try to push ourselves further even though we might have gotten a perfect tweak. On the beta phase more testings would be done and whichever arises between the two will be the final GlassCannon for the two devices.

Patience, we need patience and food..
[Nexus 5X General] jugoslavpetrovic:
Does this cpu profile turns on input boost?
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Alrighty I don't know how to configure that stuff yet ? but I'll have to do some research on that cuz I'm just getting back into this kind of stuff and I'm just trying to find something I could just stick with. Yeah separating might or might not be needed. Like I only see a slight difference when I change the screen resolution on my moto x pure. Well a difference in performance but cpu times stay around the same.
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
Sorry mate, the my mixed one had better results xD

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I'll be ready to test the experimental as this one is doing great. See my only problem is the little cluster works well with a more power hungry tweak as it's so efficient.

5.2 hours SoT, and CPU is less used than stock. Um.. Snapchat doesn't heat up! That's GREAT, there was only ever one other tweak that did that. Well done man!
[Nexus 5X General] Mesmurized:
Sorry sir .... I have one game installed --- solitare (haha) Lost interest in games after the original MarioBros console game. After months I could never find the princess while my 10yr-old neighbor kid succeeded in 10min. :laugh:
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Well I cant give you any advice about any sound mod either unless it was made by me :) i'll wait for the games test and lets see if it performs well.

I shall sabotage the mixef one then :p

I'm glad everything works fine for you and yeah the little cluster is known to be the aggressive cpu (google also designed it that way) out of curiousity what tweak were you talking about?

Otherwise I am glad you are enjoying the tweak and just be ready once beta is released (might still take some time tho)

Thats fine lol. I have that game as well but I prefer fighting games much more (certified tekken player here) it'll be fine just tell me whenever you installed a new app that stutters ;)
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
The one I said used the little cluster well was Hawktail. The original version, which I had turned into a su.d script (you'll easily find in top posts ;) )NOT THE ONE POSTED.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Here are the results for playing games. I played for about a couple minutes for each. Idk I lost time when I was playing them lol it says the time at the topbof the screenshot, the one with the earlier time is Leo's fortune. And the later time was chameleon.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Never mind there is no time at the top ? first couple were Leo's fortune and the last too were chameleon
[Nexus 5X General] edoardotavecchio:
This profile it's great for daily usage, no lags and absolutely no heating or battery sucking like every other smooth profile

I found some lags only on scrolling and gaming (playing Dream League Soccer so you have to consider that it's a really heavy load game). Could I be helpful for testing or updating or something else?
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
I laughed at the upper left status bar (dirty.af) hahaha :laugh:

If we are leaning on the battery side, those stats are great! But I am kinda worrying about the performance of the game.. did you experience and lags or stutters? Sorry if I wasn't able to reply, it's our "fiesta" so yeah we are hosting parties :p

Of course! More testers more fun and more knowledge!

Alright I need yiur kernel and rom... And what kind of lags did you experienced? And what apps did you experienced the lag in scrolling? Did it stutter (breaks/stops for a milisecond then moves again) or does it slow down? (Well just your gane for a second slows down a little bit or the app you are using)

After you answer that I might need some informations regarding what is turned on in your kernels (i.e. hotplugging etc.)

Cheers mate! ?
[Nexus 5X General] edoardotavecchio:
Alright so:

I'm on Validus ROM, latest build (today's build) and Racer Kernel v12042017+

Basing on your description, I think I could define them as stutters. There were a little bit of them while scrolling app list in the launcher and sometimes while pulling down qs panel too. I experienced this with WhatsApp chats and Instagram homepage too(that are the main "lists" I use to scroll while using the smartphone) but in a lighter way.

About my Kernel's settings I mainly use what Rachanta (the dev) offers:

-OC to 1632mhz for little and 2016mhz for big clusters

-UC to 302mhz applied only for little cluster (could this be one of the causes for stuttering?)

-No hotplugs included

-Thermal engine set to 51 degrees

-GPU governor ms-adreno-tz

-IO sched noop with 128k readahead (I know noop could be a little slow but in this case it seems to perform a lot better compared to others)

-Entropy set to 64read and 128write

-power efficient workqueues and fsync activated
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
I know racer kernel and never been a fan of it (no hate) since I don't believe any developers that just cherrypicks left and right (on google plus rachanta even said that his knowledge on kernels aren't extensive enough so he just cherry picks any commits he wants)

Your dtutters are weird (i'd be honest) so what launcher are you using? Try to disable power efficient workqueue, disabled hotplugging, disable thermal control and core control. Make sure that everything is setup properly (such as input_boost) and the likes and try to put to not underclock the minimum frequency and let it stay to 384mhz (for both cores) lets see what happens.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
I'm really surprised because for me, all i remember is it being smooth. Maybe little stutters here and there but nothing froze or anything. Must've been the GPU doing the work?? I'm gonna do it again cuz yeah all i remember is it being smooth, even the fps
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Yeah I'm also using GlassCannon with games and I've never had any lags. I dont know why he had experienced lags.. thats why I thought there might be other options turned on within his kernel.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
His settings look fine enough, I mean sure noop is more battery efficient but it shouldn't degrade performance enough to cause stutters. I honestly have no clue, I'm gonna make my own kernel when my computer gets fixed, and I'll be able to have those kind of features in it and maybe in the future I'll be able to replicate what people are doing If they are getting performance problems and try to fix the problem. This is all an idea ? never made a custom kernel before. Only compiled a room.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Well thats good for you :) I'm planning on cooking a kernel with my own governor mixed in it with [MENTION=6881234]Lazerlord[/MENTION], if you want to hop in the cart we will be glad too :) its around may though after all this testings. Noop slows down my performance tbh lol, made my cat quirky. And I am really against cherry picking commits here and there, it makes your base-code vague and buggy.
[Nexus 5X General] Mesmurized:
I'm on board if you need another tester.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Yeah I honestly don't know much ? but I'm trying my best to figure things out battery life wise and the such, I just really want to so badly since there is custom kernel at the Moto x pure thread. And well idk about cherry picking, making my own type of stuff sounds quite a bit harder and more advanced, and sure I'll be glad to help, i don't think you have the Moto x pure though so I won't be able to exactly test anything, least I think so. :rolleyes:

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Meant no custom kernel for the Moto x, I hate using stock like kernels. Dirty unicorns has the only one with nice baked in feature.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Well you already are a tester ;) check the third post lol your name is on it. ?

We might have different mantras regarding kernels but thats ok :). As long as you have a small knowledge of linux we can move on but I would still love stock kernel as I don't want any experimental or buggy patches on a first released kernel. And also yeah, I don't have moto x lol so I can't tedt on your device except if you port it ?
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Yeah I have a little knowledge with Linux, just haven't been on it in like months so I probably remember like a few commands ? and yeah I don't see a problem porting it to my device, just need to get back into the swing of Linux once my computer comes back in ? should be fun! And yeah I wouldn't add features unless the kernel like works perfectly first, gonna take my time with that stuff, it sounds like it's gonna be a lot of work, but it'll be worth it. And btw I just finished playing games and yeah it's buttery smooth for me. Even getting out of the game and playing another one switching​ back and forth.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Well I dont know again what made the other guy's cat lag, it might be the app itself much like spartan's blackberry keyboard app, when he switched to gboard it never lagged again, it might be the bad case of either poor connectivity or bad app coding. Hope he replies. And yeah it'll be fun trust me :o
[Nexus 5X General] Mesmurized:
My name in lights (hehe.

Actually I was referring to your next project. If not automatically included, count me in.
[Nexus 5X General] Curlyfry2121:
Probably the app. And wait the blackberry keyboard app caused that? :rolleyes: dang I used to really like that thing tbh. Yeah probably the app, because the cpu has to be doing the right work like it did with the games I played.
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
I was thinking.. (ik you won't like it but it's really the most stable the the 5X) to base our kernel on franco's source. About commits.. wouldn't OC of the little cluster be good? NO WAY I'M OC THAT CRAZY FLAMETHROWING HEAT GENERATING BIG CLUSTER xD.

Maybe also add in a few extra i/o governors too.

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There's one issue with your thing. You disabled core control and enabled msm thermal - that's quite bad on the 5X mate...
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Sure :D

Well its the app's poor coding that might bring it, I only use two keyboards thats gboard and aosp and both never lagged.

Well Franco's commits were based on Aosp google source (which all kernels were based) so first the base should be the google kernel, then on adding commits we need to review anything, and I know I can use some of Franco's commits some time later on once we get going. I just don't like any experimental patches so we won't apply any "test" commits. We won't be applying any compile builds as to avoid any bugs that are not caused by our own codings. And of course we will add some few governors (really few), only the once that are tested and proven.

That's just a suggestion to find out the culprit for the lags he is experiencing. It might be the thermal throttle as well as the core control if it heats too much.
[Nexus 5X General] LazerL0rd:
core control is hardware and less aggressive, while msm thermal is aggressive and software. core control had known to keep lower temperatures, i've personally tested it. you can check in the interactive governor thread.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
yep I know what they mean but they both hinder performance at least marginally, that's why I asked for the guy to disable it first to check if he would still have the lag :)
[Nexus 5X General] CazeW:
Just a heads up. Don't use msm_thermal instead of core control if you're using the thermal mod extreme v4, my cpu was hitting 80 degrees while gaming (Boom Beach, Clash Royale), ouch.
[Nexus 5X General] jugoslavpetrovic:
Due to my really lack of free time I am not being able to contribute as tester but I am really enjoying this cpu profile for everyday use. I dont play games on the phone at all but using it for browsing, facebook, xda, mailing, music with latest deuteronomy sound mod and so. Running PixelROM with latest jolla kernel, both thermal drivers on with 46°C threshold, Greenify agressive dive and L Speed app. My experience is very smooth and fine battery consuption all together with this profile. Thanks a lot.

Good job!
[Nexus 5X General] shadowstep:
Here are my results of using GlassCannon on the 6P. I clean flashed recently and gave the profile a couple of days to settle down. Following are my observations:

Phone Information:

Phone

: Nexus 6P

ROM

: Dirty Unicorns 11.3 (Android Nougat 7.1.2)

Kernel

: Flash Kernel - 04/03/17

Profile Stats:

Phone Uptime

: 24 hours

SOT

: 4 hours, 8 minutes

Active Drain

: 14.48% per hour

Idle Drain

: 1.16% per hour

My frequency distribution chart from EXKM is attached for both the clusters as well as other relevant screenshots. I did not use any battery saving app (Naptime/Force Doze/Greenify). The active drain for me, historically, has always stayed between 15%-20% and therefore, I would give it 5/5 for the profile. However, the idle drain for me has ranged between 0.5%-1% and hence, I would give it 2.5/5 as there is certainly a room for improvement here. Overall, the profile works great and I did not observe any stutter or lag anywhere. Good work, [MENTION=6638584]phantom146[/MENTION]! :)
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Great stats! If there aren't any stutters nor lags that'll be enough for me. As of now I dont really know yet if I'll change anything up as everything is perfect, and I don't really know, my idle drain is just 0.2%/hr (just a heads-up, the idle drain for dx km is computed not really based on the idle drain as I have observed, I got a really low idle drain before then a higher idle drain the other day, this is because if you happen to use your device and then put it to screen off, and at that moment the battery drops by 1% you automatically got more than 2.1% battery drain on idle) so I really find it inaccurate as of now. I don't really have anything to precisely put a ruler on this other than checking the core frequencies and because of the screenshots you delivered, I assumed that everything is doing great and the battery drain is not to be blamed on the profile (the cpu frequencies proves it :victory: )

Thanks for the wonderful review It'll help me a lot! I will definitely take note of this findings and put it on my review list :good:

My pleasure :)
[Nexus 5X General] spartan268:
So I've been in Portland over the weekend and never got proper stats. BUT I can confirm that this profile has been working great since then and it probably saved my butt as far as saving battery is concerned. Didn't need to charge my phone for 2 and a half days :) my extended battery did help for this but awesome nonetheless
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Wait.. 2 and a half days? :silly: so you left your phone for 2 and a half days? How much was the drain lol
[Nexus 5X General] spartan268:
I still used my phone every now and then. My roaming was limited so not as much as usual. My end sot stat was about 8 hours. Active drain is a hard call then I never used it consistently enough
[Nexus 5X General] shadowstep:
Yeah, the active drain is actually pretty good. And there are no stutters or lags, at least perceivable to the naked eye, for me. The idle drain was higher than that initially, but it came down quite a bit overnight because I switched off internet during my sleep-time. I had left it on a night back, and the idle drain was around 2%! I'm also surprised to see Android System & Android OS use up so much battery! But I guess that's the reason for the high idle drain. I'll try and use one of the popular battery saving apps (ForceDoze/Naptime/Greenify) and see if they work. Oh and the frequency usage is absolutely fine for me while on this profile, as seen by the screenshots that I attached in my previous post, so :good:.
[Nexus 5X General] phantom146:
Glad you had fun with it :)

There might be rogue apps continuously syncing things behind your back so go ahead and check it out especially those pesky wakeup triggers and partial wakelocks ;) if any progress had been done hit me up :)
[Nexus 5X General] crazyates:
My phone drains as low as 0.6%/hour with the screen off, so two and a half days of light usage is very plausible. I've gone 48 hours with ~1 hour SOT before. Not using this tweak, but it's still possible.