yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Duplotech:
Has NHOCBANME been abducted by aliens????

Yo, NHOCBANME is very much out of action Maybe the Aliens have snatched him from Vietnam and stolen the upcoming ROM with perfect ActiveSync.....

Na, only joking ! But seriously, I am getting itchy balls without my ActiveSync. I flash to 5 and 6, but I keep going back to 6.1 with no ActiveSync.

Anyways, 'tis all good. NHOCBANME, dude the GLOBE is excitedly checking these pages for your final masterpiece.

Cheers !
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kosmodisk:
i hope he is alright... vietnam is communist country, and he did roms for us... imperialistic people - maybe he was arrested like imperialistic spy :confused:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kusanagi:
Questions

Hi All,

Can anyone confirm that the Bluetooth PAN is working on any of NHOCBANME's ROMs?

Regards,

K
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] drwhyung:
I have problem with HP Driver for Window Vista (the cause of not being able to sync?): it says the inf file does not allow this method of installation

----SOLVED----

after changing the usb to PC setting
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] stouwdam:
So, you're Active Sync is working?

if so...could you tell me how you make it work? I tryed many times...with diverend drivers...nothing works..
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] IceHypnose:
HTC home plug in

I try to install HTC plugin on this version it doesn't work..after install and soft reset nothing change anyone can solve it?And izit posible i use a bluetooth headset with skype on PPC?

Thanks :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Duplotech:
Dude, Try this link ! ! ! !

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664

It is a great WM6.1 ROM..

Clean as a whistle !

AS is 100% OK !

I love it !
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] stouwdam:
Thanx for you're advise, but I've got a rw6815.

I don't think I could use that rom.

again..thanx for you're reply
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
i've too active sync problems with 1.05b rom for 6815..

i'm reading the whole 3d but till now i have not found any solution..

EDIT:

I've read the all thread...

i haven't solved my Sync problem..

still can't sync my pda.

it is usefull to install some kind of sw.

i'm still try to understand why, when i plug it via usb, it's recognized like a connection card, and creates a lan :S (luckly it charges.. but if i disable the "connetion card" or the "lan" it stops charging")

To be honest, sync starts for a bit.. till it gives an error..

i also have tried to do a BT connection... nothing :(

Please.. need help :(
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] aegirth:
I got wm6.1 up and running on my rw6815. It did not work with my 2GB card, had to buy a 1GB card.

thanks a lot nhocbanme!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] rcperez:
BT A2DP Stereo Headset

Anybody got the Bluetooth Stereo Headset to work??? Any solutions?

I could pair my HP Ipaq Stereo Headset, but no sound is coming out, plus when I play via WMPlayer the time is like fast forwarding.

BT Internet is a bit on the flimsy side, correctable by (well at least for MobiTV and RW6818) using the builtin GB-SOFT Tweak in settings, change the audio priority to 128 or lesser but not less than 100)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] GraeFNZ:
I had same problem with a2dp on nhocbanme's WM6.1 2.01 beta so I went back to WM6.

I've since changed to Helloworld1's clean rom and the WM6.1 version works great with no skipping.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Hi GraeFNZ,

helloworld1 Rom bro, you wrong said the cooker.

That perfect WM6.1 for 6828, try this link and enjoy the clean & stable rom. :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hecatomber:
is there any clean rom version of WM6.1 for 6815?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Someone flashed his 6815 with helloworld1's wm6 rom, and reported only camera didn't work.

Visit this link. Good luck.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664&page=2
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AngelMaster:
I want black theme in 1.05b. Who can upload for me?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] BesFen:
Try this link, you can download alotof themes.

http://freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-theme.html
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Abba91:
Hey. Im Using a HP Ipaq RW6815. I think my bootloader is 1.0.5, but i cant downgrade with the file you posted. It says that my phone is no compitable or something.

Then i tried to flash it anyway, but i couldent choose OS only in that program, it just said all!

Can you help me please?:confused:
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Abba91:
I am using HP ipaq rw6815. I think my bootloader is 1.0.5 but i cant downgrade with the link you posted. It just says device not compitable after checking it.

Then i tried flashing it anyway, but when i run the program i can only choose upgrade all, not OS only!

What am i doing wrong?!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
Still have problems with Sync after flashing rom 1.05b.. please help
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] El Zorro Dorado:
Hi to everybody I want to say thanks to all of you who worked in the roms a wonderfull job and I want to ask something last night i have install the rom 2.01b beta1 via miniSD in my HP Ipaq RW6815 and the cam dosent work can anyone help me find the pach the rom works good some bugs but not a problem thanks and wait for your reply to anyone
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] alkatraz:
heh I try downgrade my BL but it didnt work.

maybe someone could tell me how to do step by step

I have rw6815 with

ROM 1.12.00 PLK (official polish version)

Bootloader 1.00.5

I put HP Bootloader 1.01 (http://rapidshare.com/files/82853862/HP_BL1.0.1.rar) to miniSD (128MB) went to BL, and nothing happened, try SP34053 ROM form HP, error....

used "hpRUU_patched_from_language_and_model"........(with SP34053) error

someone could help me ? :(
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] El Zorro Dorado:
I dont think that the 128mb miniSD card will do I think in the tut it says 512 mb or 1gb I have 1 gb that flashed my HP
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] ronalkori:
ipaq audio

can someone post here the ipaq audio files AudioCPL.cpl, AudioEngine.dll, AudioGain.dll from windows folder of beta 3 rom....

Thanks..:)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] thitiwut:
ActiveSync and Windows Mobile 6.1 is COOL

Hey..guy...i'm download and flash sd card in ipaq rw 6828 ...wow.is very good..

i can use active sync with Outlook 2007, contact, Calendar is very good and connect to internet (GPRS)

and bluetooth ,wifi is OK, oh, yes, i use Vista and Sync Center(Vista) here ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664 ;)

oh, i download link WM6.1 20080411b95:http://www.mediafire.com/?lljgzmmzzkg (last update)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] skapoentje:
nothings works please help

hello guys sorry for my bath english but can you help me out.

i have tride flash with pc(vista and xp) and with 1 gig mini sd but nothing works.

i tride a lot of times but nothing happend when i try with mini sd at 10 minutes it restart and every thing stays the same.

with pc he say,s update and hangs.

its a ipaq 6815 englisch rom. PLEASE HELP
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
Hello, i have explain how i flash my ipaq 6815 on this thread page 79, please let me if you try the method and did not work for you. Also, i think anybody using ipaq 6828 can also try my method if you are having any problem.

I will post these steps again here
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
INSTALLING Ver 2.01b beta1 ON HP iPAQ rw6815

I have my ipaq rw6815 running on wm 6.1 for almost 2weeks now,

If you thing my method is long or not necessary, just give us a better method you know and let everybody enjoy the wm 6.1 without any problem.

FOR HP iPAQ rw6815 (ipaq rw6828 may try it, i only used hp ipaq 6815)

You will start the process with your PC and end it with MiniSD card

Now before we start, please get these things ready

• USB cable

• MiniSD card ( I think any card will do)

• Fully charge HP iPAQ rw6815

• Your ActiveSync connection

PART ONE

1 first download these two files Download 2.01b beta1 via PC and Download 2.01b beta1 via miniSD , you will need these two files to have wm6.1 working perfectly.

2 Download Device Software Update Utility with this link : Here - Mirror - Mirror ( these files are from first of this thread )

If you have these three files, you can start.

1 Ver2.01b_beta1.exe--------------size---------------------47.1mb

2 diskimg.nb0-----------------------size---------------------64mb

3 sp34053.exe-----------------------size---------------------34.7mb

Note : delete every things in C:\WINDOWS\Temp directory of your PC you before start these steps

• Extract sp34053.exe (I am using winrar) directly to C:\WINDOWS\Temp directory. (*do not copy and paste extracted files*)

• Extract Ver2.01b_beta1.exe directly to C:\WINDOWS\Temp directory. (*do not copy and paste extracted files*)

• Connect your device with PC via mini USB port

• Go to C:\WINDOWS\Temp and click on hpRuu.exe to Run Device Software Update

• Choose "OS only" (This is safe menthod) *this option may not show*

important note : Now, you are flashing ROM via PC, during the process your PPC will disconnect from your PC. DO NOT unplug or disconnect your device during flash, just cancel the installation. Now your PC will see your PPC as new device (pls allow PC to auto install or you install it throught device maneger) then go back to C:\WINDOWS\Temp and click on hpRuu.exe to Run Device Software Update. This will restart flashing and complete it. Now you have a new HP iPAQ rw6828 Row on your HP iPAQ rw6815.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
INSTALLING Ver 2.01b beta1 ON HP iPAQ rw6815 (PART TWO)

PART 2

Due to ActiveSync connection problem you will complete the process with MiniSD card

Get your MiniSD card and format with PC (I use FAT when formatting my 1GB MiniSD)

• Copy diskimg.nb0 file root folder of miniSD (name must be : diskimg.nb0 )

• -Insert miniSD card to your device.

-Charge battery full.

-Go to bootloader : Press both soft key (two "-" keys) and softreset (stylus), the HP bootloader sceen. Will appear

-Wait 15 -> 20 mins. It will auto hardreset.

These are the steps I follow to install mine.

Congratulation You now have Wm6.1 on your HP iPAQ rw6815
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kosmodisk:
hey do Active sync and camera work with this version?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
YES, every thing are working great on my ipaq 6815. please try it
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] dj_713:
Hp 6815 Problem With Wm6 Rom

I Try To Update My 6815 With Beta 2.01 Wm6 Rom . I Do All Tha You Say But Starts And Don't Do Nothing

I See Only "checking Information On Your Device Please Wait ...

And All Other " I Wait Wait And Nothing Happends

Can Anybody Tell Me What Happends

Thanks
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
hello: dj_713

Please, nobody is paying anyone to post here, if i can take my time to explain step by step on how i did mine and it worked, i think it will be more helpful if you could explain step by step how you are doing yours, so i may know where you are having problem. Why trying to flash mine, i faced all these problems too before i finally get it work.

I put important note below the steps, after clicking hpRuu.exe in the C:\WINDOWS\Temp directory, please read this important note again

mportant note : Now, you are flashing ROM via PC, during the process your PPC will disconnect from your PC. DO NOT unplug or disconnect your device during flash, just cancel the installation. Now your PC will see your PPC as new device (pls allow PC to auto install or you install it throught device maneger) then go back to C:\WINDOWS\Temp and click on hpRuu.exe to Run Device Software Update the second time. This will restart flashing and complete it. Now you have a new HP iPAQ rw6828 Row on your HP iPAQ rw6815.

next follow part two of the step..............
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] ronalkori:
ipaq audio

can someone please post here the ipaq audio files AudioCPL.cpl, AudioEngine.dll, AudioGain.dll from windows folder of beta 3 rom....

Thanks..
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] aug_20032:
Device Software Update Utility.exe does not allow choice OS ONLY.

My problem is that I have executed the procedure and now the device is blocked in botloader 1.0.1

Some idea in order to resolve?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
A question, hoping someone will answer me..

Can Htc Home Costumizer work with the HtcHome plugin that's in the rom?

I've tried to install it but it doesn't recognize the embended Home of the rom
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] Abba91:
i got a question, when im on the PPC and i multitask with a couple of programs, then the PPC exits all the other applications than the one im using, this happens after exactly 31 seconds . Anyone experiencing the same thing?

I am using a HP Ipaq RW6815
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kosmodisk:
it causes utility called free ram... i've had same problem..., dont't use it, but download oxios memory tools and use oxios hibernate not free ram :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
Another question (hoping not to be ignored again)

I've installed the LG Menu, and the integrated pocketCm automatically downgraded to v0.15.

Is that normal?

what to do to have again a functional PocketCm???
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] rcperez:
RUU

the device software update utility could allow OS only, just highlight the "ALL" field and use the keyboard's cursor keys to change it to OS ONLY.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] IceHypnose:
Ya It can i m using It now have no problem anyway what version of HTC Home u Install on your PPC ?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] skapoentje:
I do everything you said but it still don,t work for me???

when i start the programm it will don,t start?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
the one embended in the rom.. and HHC doesn't recognize it..
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] onkeltje:
Hi kaybest,

i have installed on your way but i always have a problem with activesync.

I can not sync Contacts, E-Mail, Tasks, calendar...

That is what the system say to mi....

" Synchronization could not be completed. If this condition persists, try deleting and then re-creating the device's sync relationships.

Ondersteuningscode: 80004005."

For files it works good.

I think it has something to do with repllog.

Is here somebody with the same problem?

Greetings
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] admin22:
i am From Singapore. rapidshare doesnt work for me, mirror link says account suspended. any update?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
Which Program

hello, please i need to know which program don't start and at what stage. How do start it. waiting for a reply
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
Activesync

1 which version of active sync are you using? i think you should activesync 4.5

2 Do you have microsoft outlook installed? If yes, then Try setup your microsoft outlook email account (i open a new and free live mail for this purpose, try do the same thing, but if have one, then use it setup email account in outlook)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kaybest:
ActiveSync connection problem

Please follow these steps :

INSTALLING Ver 2.01b beta1 ON HP iPAQ rw6815

Due to ActiveSync connection problem you will complete the process with MiniSD card

Get your MiniSD card and format with PC (I use FAT when formatting my 1GB MiniSD)

• Copy diskimg.nb0 file root folder of miniSD (name must be : diskimg.nb0 )

• -Insert miniSD card to your device.

-Charge battery full.

-Go to bootloader : Press both soft key (two "-" keys) and softreset (stylus), the HP bootloader sceen. Will appear

-Wait 15 -> 20 mins. It will auto hardreset.

These are the steps I follow to install mine.

Congratulation You now have Wm6.1 on your HP iPAQ rw6815
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] onkeltje:
Thanks for the reply...

I use activesync 4.5 and Microsoft Outlook.

With WM5 it always works fine.

So, i think that's not the reason.

Greetings
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] asprofridis:
let me ask you 2 things

1)for this rom to be uploaded we need bootloader 1.02 and below right?my 1.05 bootloader must be downgraded right?

2)having changed to 6.1 can we shut down our 6815 like other 6.1 devices can or the shutdown function its up to the device ONLY??

thx in advance
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AngelMaster:
Who can give me '' O2 Theme '' in v.1.05b ? thank you.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] stouwdam:
Guy's

I tryed many things to get the active sync connection work.

there are no changes in de registrery between the wm5 version and wm6.1 version. Weird.

Anyone who has a rw6815 with wm6.1 and a working activesync connection for email/contacts/tasks/notes/calander.

Or is there another way to import al my outlook contact to my mobile device

Greetz:)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] GraeFNZ:
1) you need to downgrade the bootloader if you are flashing via PC.

You don't need to downgrade if flashing via SD card
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] AkiraFudo:
HELP!

I've the pda's miniusb broken and i have to send it to assistance.

I've downgraded it to wm5, flashing by minisd. But in English

Now, the only way to flash it in ITA is download the official update rom from hp, but it works with RUU.. and it need usb connection..

I've thought to copy the nbf file into the miniusb, but don't know if it's good.

All the Rom files have nb0 extension..

What can i do?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] henrybarriga:
Hi Sir Nhocbanme

i have a problem with my ipaq rw6828.. ive been using update of HP support website.. boot only up to "align screen" i cant go to the desktop of my ipaq like start menu.. what should i do for this?

when i use your HP68xxWM6_1.0.4byNHOCBANME it always shows checking the information of your device..please wait... ive been waiting for almost 30mins.. but nothing happens.. what should i do?

please help..

henry
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] cyrillic:
Please give me a fix for Activesync :-( I think alot of people will be thankfull :-)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] bingodja:
upgarding wm5 to wm6.1

hi, we had my friend an i , ipaq rw6815 with wm5 / 1.10.04 FRA / BL 1.00.05

is any upgrade to wm6.1 French , if it is, where can i found the files and the procedure of upgrading...

thanks for helping us.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] 4dn4n:
hi. update my rom. and shut down the pda. not open? charge led on. not open my pda =(
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
Long times to meet all my friends, month ago I'm busy for study. Now I've free time and I'll build ROM again.

Some pictures about new version !!!

Anyone please help me about ActiveSync issue !!!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kosmodisk:
try to talk to another wm6.1 developers, those who do wm6.1 for atom could help...

what about ram? after reboot? thx

NHOCBANME maybe we could do you Funclub :-D
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
Free RAM : 29 ~ 31MB (In the pictures : It connect with PC to capture so that free RAM 22MB)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kosmodisk:
someone says here[The activesync is working very well in windows xp sp2 with activesync 4.5, but I haven't tested vista]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664&page=53
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] speedy_peter:
Welcome back nhocbanme, I have flashed with your rom and it works great and thanks for all the hard work you've put in this. :)

one question about the activesync, shouldn't it be a little icon on the bottom right when you connect with the PC. I don't see it now, it used to be there in wm5.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] asprofridis:
downgrade from 2.01b to 1.12 with bootloader 1.05

has anyone succeed it and if so could you please post the way/files you did it

the way mentioned in first post doesnt work

someone posted that must first downgrade to bootloader 1.01 but cant find the file!

thx in advance
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] asprofridis:
downgrade from 2.01b to 1.12 with bootloader 1.05

has anyone succeed it and if so could he please post the way/files he did it

the way mentioned in first post doesnt work

someone posted that must first downgrade to bootloader 1.01 but cant find the file!

thx in advance
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wookym:
active sync problem

I update my rw6815 via microSD. as far as i could see all is working well. the only exception ist active sync 4.5 does not work for contacts, mail, tasks, calendar.

I use xpsp2 and ms outlook 2003

The message is:

" Synchronization could not be completed. If this condition persists, try deleting and then re-creating the device's sync relationships.

Ondersteuningscode: 80004005."
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] chiko118:
you could flash back to the original 1.01 BL rom from this link.

ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp34001-34500/sp34053.exe
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] chiko118:
Camera software should change to ATOM

Hi NHOCBANME™ welcome back.. is it possible to upgrage the camera software to the one which helloworld1 use to your latest ROM?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360664

this version seems to be more fast in snapping photo & the light exposure is better during night time as the night mode improve alot compare to the original HP software. The original software seem to LAG when the night mode turn on & there is no frame feature in it too. I like ur rom very much continue the great work...
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hooligan99:
I have the same problem!!!

I have another question: How can I deactivate the usb charge battery?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] asprofridis:
does anybody know how to downgrade to 1.12 official?

i have bootloader 1.05 and trying to load sp35818.exe with patched ruu i get image file is corrupt error and trying to load sp34053.exe again with patched ruu i get update is incompatible .

notice that i use patched ruu for language and model
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
You can use WM5 ROM flash via miniSD I was post in #1.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
New version fix problem with Activesync :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=389743
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
It's Camera Software of O2 Atom

I was use it in the version for 68x8.

Because 6815 didn't compatibility with Camera Software of O2 Atom so that I use HP Camera Software for it.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] nhocbanme:
Same post !!!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] hooligan99:
thanks a lot bro ;)

Great work!!! thanks for sharing
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] wookym:
Thanks a lot. great job!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] martinchong:
HP 6828 downgrade to WM5

Dear NHOCBANME, i would like to ask you for HP 6828 downgrade back to WM5, i had sucessful convert my phone to WM6(Ver 1.0.5a (for 68x8)), but i had try few time to downgrade back to WM5 vis using SD card matter,it sucess to install it, when come to hard reset, it will just hang there, nothing happen. And also RUU.exe matter, the pc keep prompting me saying that image file corrupted. Would you please tell me how am i going to downgrade my HP 6828 to WM5, please help, thank you.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] xj_jacky:
Hi Hi ..

Your rom seems like perfect if can fix the activesync problems.

I have tried but just only activesync can't work.

So I have no choice to not use it as I need to sync my contact.

Hope you have a goods news and update soon.

Thank you so much ar.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] kcf4PoPC:
Hi, I own rw6815, and from my experience, I have tried every method, unsuccessfully, I think that is no way to downgrade back to WM5!!! I you have luck please share with us.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] martinchong:
Yes, I had tried so many method and all doesn't work, any expert can share with us?