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[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Unless you run 4 threads that need each core to run on 2GHz with 100% load constantly then yeah, they'll almost always be disabled.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] nitroax:
How about the battery life ? Better then the stock AOSPA kernel?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] iSonik:
Usally i get 2 days witj stock AOSPA. Since i installed the kernel yesterday, i cant say much yet. I update this tho in a few days
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
The latest update seems to have increased performance quite a bit, but battery life is suffering. I have never experienced this bad standby time.

From VNS-L31 running Lineage OS 14.1, also using force doze...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] iSonik:
For Me with AOSPA performance is really bad. Aslong as you only used the homescreen everything was very smooth, but any heavy app like facebook made it nearly freeze.

Btw: Battery is a little bit better than stock AOSPA
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
I wonder if some of the defconfig changes might've caused that. I can't rebuild right now since I just reinstalled my OS, I'll look into it sometime soon.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aminnazl6572:
Work on emiui 5?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] iSonik:
thx :D
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TheNameIsSkye:
Can you add a safetynet bypass please? (so the safteynet check doesn't detect bootloader being unlocked)
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Salman Farooq01:
which version should I flash on the latest MedroM on VNS-L21?

Are all regions supported on VNS-L21?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
There aren't multiple "versions", just new releases with bug fixes... Compatibility info is in the first post, kernels are not region dependant.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Salman Farooq01:
i can't find compatibility info :crying:
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
Read the OP carefully please...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Potato997:
I flashed the kernel on Resurrection Remix nougat but then the device won't boot. It just reboot to recovery everytime.

The kernel is now in permissive mode, maybe it is the cause. Let me know if I can help you.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
If you have a backup from a older rr version, try restoring its boot, when the SELinux was disabled. Maybe that could be a temporary solution?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
SELinux code changed a bit in Nougat, so it most likely won't work with permissive and enforcing mode without losing compatibility with MM.

Also I've seen a response from Honor team, there is a holdup in R&D with releasing new kernel sources iirc. Huawei is (in)famous for releasing sources 6 months late :/

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[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Salman Farooq01:
I flashed the latest build on vns-L21 c185b150 stock rooted...it seemed to boot up fine...but then came a screen requiring a password for decryption (I never encrypted anything)....so I took a guess and typed 1234 there....it said that the password was correct but it could not decrypt....I turned off the device from there...and flashed the backup of boot from twrp....I am back to where I started....can anyone help me about what I did wrong?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
There seems to be a problem with encryption in latest build, but so far I've no idea what's causing it.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Salman Farooq01:
So which build is most stable (for using as a daily driver) in your opinion?

Thanks for the quick replies
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
If you're not using any memory heavy apps (like Facebook), then the one before last should do fine, otherwise none, at least until the encryption bug is figured out or Huawei provides new sources, so I can rebase the kernel.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TheNameIsSkye:
Can you re-enable the otg support in the kernel please?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] czupakabra:
hi, i cant install your kernel veno-kernel-20170406. I have an error: Unsuspported device. Aborting... updater process ended with ERROR: 1

I have VNS-L21 with Android 6.0 ver B170 EMUI 4.1.2 Team Win Recovery Project 3.0.2-0, root SuperSU Pro.

What i am dooing wrong? or this kernel in not for my device ?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
The kernel has problems with encryption on stock EMUI, I wouldn't recommend it right now. As for the device error, the installer is checking for "hi6250" as the device model, which all P9 lite variants have. Maybe try redownloading the archive?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] nitroax:
what about on Lineage 13 ?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Potato997:
It should works fine
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tonioricciato:
Best Kernel Version for LOS 14.1

I'm on LOS 14.1/4.4.17 and Veno Kernel 6.4.17 kernel... what can i do to have usb host support ?

Thank you.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
You'll need Kernel Adiutor if you don't want to use terminal every time.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=71438629
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tonioricciato:
THANK YOU ! (solved with Kernel Adiutor)

For D2W any other suggestion?

For data on kernel reliability and power consumption I will let you know shortly.

Thank you for your work. (I'd like to see you and Meticulus working together ... Have you ever talked to him?)

P.S: I tried installing the latest version of the kernel on the latest version of the meticulus Slim Rom (Nougat 7.1.2) but the phone always starts in recovery ...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
I assume you mean Meticulus' D2W, in that case it won't work, as kernel doesn't contain his code (there's easy wake-up gesture from Huawei or something like that, but I've never tested it).

As for the second part of your post, I haven't considered working with him (we never spoke privately), as I disagree with his approach to development (charging for ROMs) and I intend for my work to be public, as this is pretty much educational for me, I want everyone to be able to benefit from it.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] MrSagace:
On Ressurection Remix nougat (7.1.2), is rebooting into the TWRP Recovery (by Meticulous).. You know how to get this done? Thx
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TomasBP:
Sorry pls delate this message
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Meticulus made some changes to SELinux, to make the kernel compatible with Nougat I believe. You have to modify your boot.img and disable SELinux in cmdline.

Recently I didn't have much time to work on the kernel (or my own device tree, for the matter), I might find some time to rebuild it with necessary changes.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] MrSagace:
I appreciate you work, if you can work this fine, good. If not, is not a problem.. Keep it up ✌️
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Pietro007:
do i have to be rooted to use all the features of this kernel or can i just flash the kernel trough TWRP and be good ? EMUI4, 0404build

EDIT: nvm i rooted
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Sorry for lack of updates recently, I'm still waiting for Huawei to provide us with sources for Nougat kernel.

I've rebuilt the kernel using older config, which might solve the encryption problem on some EMUI4 versions. I'm also providing build with Meticulus' patches, which should enable his Nougat ROMs to boot again with my kernel.

Download for EMUI4/Marshmallow

Download for Nougat (Meticulus ROMs)
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tonioricciato:
Hi, just installed on Meticulus LOS 14.1 07.05.17

Thanks You.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Pietro007:
device encrypted after flashing latest version of your kernel - B160firmware
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Damn, so it must be something else setting it off. What was the last working version for you?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] 4uvak91:
Works on RR MM 6.0.1_r74
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Pietro007:
It was 0404 build.

I didnt flash 0406 because there were already reports of it causing this problem and i didnt flash 0405 too(no real reason behind it).

Running the 0404 build on B160 firmware was a good experience, very nice battery life (got around 8hours on screen time). No random reboots, but sometimes when i clicked on an app icon the app wouldnt launch and i had to clear the RAM through the multitasking menu and i was able to launch it(this was happening pretty often). No xposed, just root.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Yeah, the RAM problem was the reason why I returned to older codebase. I need to compare the two again sometime soon, maybe this time I'll find what Huawei changed (and messed up) in newer sources.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Pietro007:
Alright, take your time. Im on LOS14.1 at the moment but i can test for you anytime if you want...I am doing the final part of my school leaving exam this week and after that i should be free.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] RawKnighy:
Where did you find nougat rr for p9 lite?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
www.meticulus.co.vu > p9 lite> LineageOS 14 > rr extra...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] RawKnighy:
Thank you man!Are you on simple alpha build on sponsor one?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
I'm on alpha LineageOS 14, rr (alpha) was too buggy for me... That's a shame because rr is a great rom, but at this time, only for sponsors...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Potato997:
Hello, did you saw that kernel source for emui 5 is released?

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opens...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hugor671:
Testing vns l31
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hugor671:
Double TAP dont work, in Meticulus build "RR"
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
double tap to wake is not implemented in this kernel
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Yeah, I've seen it. Tried building it, but here's some problem with SELinux which causes the phone to bootloop, although that might be a problem with my defconfig. I'll look into it today, if I manage to fix it I'll start development again.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
hello

glad to hear that !

i managed to build the Kernel too and added some features and new io schedulers

i added also new governors, but when i set the new governor that i added i have a reboot

have you any idea about that ?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
EDIT: Scratch that at the bottom, did your kernel boot at all before you made changes?

That might not be the fault of governor at all. I tried building the kernel from clean sources and the phone immediately reboots. last_kmsg (or actually ram-oops console in MM and later) has a message from init that some SELinux security thing is missing/corrupted/failed and the phone will reboot as a result. It may be a matter of kernel boot parameters or init scripts, but I won't be able to tinker much with it until weekend. Disabling SELinux at boot with androidboot.selinux=permissive kernel parameter might be enough until we figure out why the init is freaking out.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
hello i managed to build the kernel using clean source, without modifications and i have no problems, even with using selinux enforcing/permissive , everything is working well

ive followed this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFsoAirctQ&feature=youtu.be made by [MENTION=4960686]OldDroid[/MENTION] :)
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Huh, the only things that I did differently are using Linaro toolchain and Elite Kernel scripts in my build, I'll try switching it up tomorrow.

As to the phone rebooting on changing governors. Most governors I've seen were designed for 3.10 or 3.14 kernels and 4.1 line is a lot newer (and Huawei is using their own big.LITTLE implementation, which requires specifically adapted governor, while most aren't even adapted to octa-core devices), it's best to take governors which were already integrated into the same kernel version, at least that's what I've been doing.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
yes, as joe2k01 did for his kernel for honor 8 , i used the same governos that he added (i tried alucard and bioschok) and none of them worked :/
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
alucard governor is very old, I couldn't get it to work even on MM kernel. I don't know Bioshock governor, but from quick look at Github it seems it's developed for 3.4 kernels. If you want to save battery, I think the best way for new kernels is interactive governor with some form of hotplugging, which Huawei implemented in the kernel, but for some reason kept disabled in defconfig.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
i did a quick search about governors for linux 4.1 kernels and found nothing,(maybe i didnt search well)

i think i will add hotplug with interactive governor or tweak it
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dkionline:
Chech OnePlus3 development, they are bigLITTLE with snapdragon. I have 13 governors in my kernel, but cam is broken.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
i tried with intelliactive and interactive_pro, same problem :(
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] markositoo:
Can I install this kernel if I am on Arsenik ROM now?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] simo255:
nope, this kernel is only for android 6.0
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Potato997:
I thought it may be useful if I post it here, kernel source for p9 lite ;)

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opens...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Nice, maybe that'll work with nondefault toolchain.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
[MENTION=8134750]Avsky0[/MENTION], since [MENTION=4960686]OldDroid[/MENTION] has successfully made new LineageOS based on EMUI 5 sources, are you going to deprecate Meticulus support, and make custom kernel compatible with new lineage?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Yep, I've already succeeded in building it with fixes from OldDroids repo. Toolchain will most likely change to an older one, since the new SELinux doesn't like any compiler except GCC 4.9 (I think I'll go for UberTC). I'm going to get into hacking it during this weekend.

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[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
Great to hear from you,

Those are really great news for our community.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Razor10707:
Hi for some reason it says my device is unsupported

I have a vns-l21c432b380 im running rocatex rom and im using smoky kernel V3 i tried flashing it over the stock kernel and over this both times said unsupported device aborting what im doing wrong? I tried both the nougat and the normal one no of them worked
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Read the OP, any ROMs newer than B336 aren't supported (since that was the last release of EMUI that "sometimes" worked with this kernel).

If you want to flash a custom kernel, try looking for something based on Linux 4.1 (this is 3.10/EMUI4).
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ruben.sts:
THX great work !
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neonoafs:
[MENTION=8134750]Avsky0[/MENTION] Im trying to install on stock MM of VNS-L23 (C605B120), but it doesnt boot. Any idea of what happened?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
You should get a logcat, he is not psychic...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neonoafs:
[MENTION=8134750]Avsky0[/MENTION] I got a log from bootloop. Tell me if this is the right log.
[MENTION=2953340]tw1st3d83[/MENTION] Thanks for the info
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avsky0:
Weird, looks like one of the partitions can't be mounted and then setprop fails. Could you try updating your EMUI to B160 or B170?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neonoafs:
According to Firmware Finder, theres no 160 or 170 update =(

(attached file)
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
Hello,

I am having issues with this kernel... i can flash the kernel but the device would never boot....the screen would just go black.

I would appreciate if someone made a twrp backup of the boot image with this kernel installed and sent it to me
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
On what rom did you flash this kernel?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
I flashed it on Resurrection Remix From Meticulus... It is based on the emui so the kernel should be compatible...wouldn't it just stop the installation if it would be compatible?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
This kernels is for emui4 (android5) and latest meticulus rr is based on emui5 (android7) so if you tried this kernel on latest rr it just wont work, you can flash again elitekernel and boot up your device...

And no, it wont stop instalation, it is too long story to tell why... :)
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
That kernel won't work either
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
Then in order to boot up your device you need to reflash rom, gapps and root... It would be best if you do a clean flash but you can try to dirty flash first.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
That didn't work, i installed the rom and then the kernel but it wouldn't boot
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
Just do not install kernel... Rom has its own kernel, no need to flash other one, especially this one ?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
Im trying to flash a custom kernel because the rom isnt letting me charge past 84% with a normal rate...it fadt charges to 84% but then the current goes to 100-200 mA.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tw1st3d83:
That only means that something is wrong with your battery...
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Anonda:
When i was in Emui 4, I used this kernel in every rom. Great works.

Now Can your pls, upgrade this for Emui 5?

---------- Post added at 11:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:19 AM ----------

When i was in Emui 4, I used this kernel in every rom. Great works.

Now Can your pls, upgrade this for Emui 5?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] davidhozic:
It charges normally on the stock rom
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Den Rus:
Not work, write aborting unsupported device on flash twrp, honor 5c, please update.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
this kernel is for hi6250.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
I guess this is only for the Marshmallow version of EMUI?

Alright.
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Den Rus:
Avsky Hi, you alive brother? Thank you! version 20170405 successfully flashed and worked on my honor 5c-nem-l51 c10b141, last version not work, error: device encrypted, you see this? Please update kernel for Android 6, emui 4.1 ?
[Huawei P9 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Den Rus:
Avsky Hi, you alive broe? Thank you! version 20170405 successfully flashed and worked on my honor 5c-nem-l51 c10b141, last version not work, error: device encrypted, you see this? Please update kernel for Android 6, emui 4.1
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oggyjack:
Hello my Lg g4 h815 was on Qual 9008 mode :( so i was trying to fix it by flashing .mbn files. one .mbn file worked and phone boots up. it now showing me secure booting error 1009 Please Help Me!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMadScientist:
From there if u got dl mode u need to flash the firmware

U were on before the qualcom9000 mode
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oggyjack:
i am not able to enter into download mode
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMadScientist:
Uve tried power off hold vol up the pluvging to pc
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oggyjack:
yes
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMadScientist:
Out of my expertise. Ive seen em fixxed. But the sprint onez no. Unless u gotta push more the just the mbn.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] beatbreakee:
hey, I'm an avid Samsung user who's taken the plunge to the Rooted Nougat firmware. Now I understand that there's no xposed progress, but my question is: Does anyone know of a method or app to hide Root from basic applications with Root detection ? my job requires an app, and it just recently started denying access to rooted devices. The built in disabler for Supersu does not work. And I know it isn't safetynet based because the xposed module "Security Bypasser" is all that was needed to get by it before I switched to Nougat. any help or insight is appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tbeatham:
I have just installed skype which seems to be working fine. The only problem I have is that the unit has to be left switched on. If it goes into power save mode it seems to drop the WLAN connection so does not ring when someone calls me on my skype in number. Any ideas how to get this to work as the power drain on battery means that I have to leave the handset plugged into the mains.

I am also keen to change the ring tone but am unsure if this is possible as there are no options on the set up for the mobile skype.

All help and ideas greatly appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] London luke:
using skype, did the video camera work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] slowatsch:
As far as I know the camera dosenst work....

Well I dont know if it's possible. But the Data connection useres alot of batery, so it may be a problem, even if the display itself is switched off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] London luke:
This phone is sold as a high end Business device etc. yet its impossible to use the video camera with yahoo , sykpe etc. What is the point of offering a front facing camera designed to be used for web type use if it will not work

I still cannot believe the HTC head engineer allowed this phone to be sold with such silly issues
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] downloader35:
Skype works here on but only on speaker and not with the Telephone speaker. Is there a solution for that??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sbirsen:
I've got a slightly different issue besides the fact we can't use the camera. I tried both fring and skype for VoIP, but in both cases the voice quality is always pretty bad. The moment I use the phone as a modem and skype with someone over a laptop, the quality is perfect. :confused:

I am currently using skype version 2.1.0.65 on the vario III, as I read somewhere that older versions work better with the Vario III. The quality seems to be slightly better than when I had the latest version of Skype Mobile installed, but it's still far from using it to have a decent conversation. I wonder how everybody else on this forum is managing to speak over skype or fring... Or is everybody having the same issue ?

Thanks