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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] drshorty:
Im going to post info once ups update my package... for some reason i didnt get the text of charge but my chase account did get charge. Tmobile charge for the s8 96.56 on brooklyn ny
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] M9x3mos:
Does it show you an expected delivery date yet or just label printed?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
I'm still a little sketched out of the legitimacy. Especially since there is an updated screenshot from the TMO app/site. Anyone how has ever ordered anything from TMO knows that the status on there doesn't change quickly. Could be days, weeks or months before it reflects the real status. My tab e was processing for like 6 months
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] andyshannon:
I see one person on tmonews.com also got that same tracking number text and another person on reddit as well, so looks like 3 confirmed people got the same text, this may be real.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] SilverShrimp0:
There have been a few more reports of receiving tracking numbers on Reddit.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] andyshannon:
another on reddit, 4 confirms...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mweinbach:
I ordered the same device at the same time. This is weird. I expect mine to ship soon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] drshorty:
I dont buy accessory from tmobile. Is just the phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] amyf27:
I just saw the UPS guy drive to the back of out work building and got excited. . lol. Silly
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] pilot_xphile:
Wohoooo! I just received two text messages. First one saying that the day to send my S7 Edge back had been extended until 05/13/17. Second text says my order has been processed and has the UPS tracking number. Edit: I just received an email form T-Mobile confirming the change of status of the order.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mweinbach:
So, so far I have seen 6 reports of them shipping. I do believe them, I am contacting T-Mobile currently to see if they are actually shipping. If so expect the text around 24 hours after you received your first text. Check your accounts also to make sure that the payments went through. I do believe those who did get the tracking numbers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
I only know other person who says that... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mweinbach:
Some are shipping early. Expect your to ship soon if you have been charged. BTW I said friend because of you guys.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] haqone:
For people that have received confirmation and a tracking number, when did you get the first text message? What day were you charged and what day did you get tracking info? Just trying to establish a timeline.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] TehKing:
The only restriction to JOD is the phone jumping to must have a retail price of at least $400.

Regardless, you probably won't be able to take advantage. My wife inquired about adding Jump on Demand to her line and was informed that Jump and JOD are no longer available to new sign ups.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
Watch out to those on regular jump. They tried to tell me lastnight, when pre orders opened, that the jump that I have (jump 1.0) was just insurance in case I damaged my phone. They then tried to sign me up for JOD. which I said hell no! I know what I have. It's not my first rodeo. I then requested to be transferred to an American rep...They too were trying to get me to switch!!! WTF! So after telling me that I'm not switching again...The rep said that I could finance it through regular jump. Which I ready knew because I've done at least 10 times since being with TMO. She also tried to charge me for shipping ($24.99) and a connection fee ($20). Nope! Didn't have to pay that after complaining.

TMO is starting to get super shady. Thought I'd share my experience in hopes it would help someone else
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
That sounds about right since what I paid didnt equal what it would have been if it wasn't.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] LuigiBull23:
I don't see why not. As long as you're on a normal post-paid plan, you should be fine. JOD really only pertains to the device being financed and not the rate plan, unless you're on a prepaid or no credit check plan, in which case you wouldn't be eligible.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Semantics:
Overnight shipping was free with the S8 for me, also.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] RMXO:
Yeap I got free overnight UPS shipping but couldn't get a credit for the 20 stupid upgrade fee. The should be paying us since we are giving them money.

I read Samsung site has a silver TMO s8 for 100 off.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] HtcOnekid:
well manage to get my order in via regular EIP, no problem but it seem that why i was on the phone with the rep lol both my G6 started acting up so ill be returning them to the store today and got a $100 credit for the restocking fee and my 2 JOD lines will be back to O so ill save does for the note 8 and iphone 8
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
What are you guys choosing?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] SBERG117:
Well if the phone ships on the 21st and it's now March 30th when do you expect the phone to ship??? Next week??? That essentially would be weeks in advance...right??? Guess what??? NOT GONNA HAPPEN....

Maybe and I say maybe they might get released a day or so early but I doubt that too.... If you want to expect it "weeks early" go ahead but you're gonna get yourself worked up for nothing.

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Gear VR...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] TehKing:
Gear VR and controller.

I have a 256GB card from my S7 I'll be using, and I have decent headphones already.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
I don't really see the phones shipping early. I think Samsung has something where they hold some until release and others they let loose. Unless they really want hype etc etc I would see some of these shipping next week.

As soon as I pre-ordered my G6 i got a tracking # that same night.

Either way fingers crossed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] TehKing:
Same experience with the S6 edge. I had it a full month before "official" release date. I don't expect it to happen again, though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] SBERG117:
I would be very surprised to see any carrier release early... It's either everyone at once or no one at all... And I'm on the no one at all side of the fence.... We're only talking 21 days... I think I can wait...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
Speak for yourself lol. Soon as I submitted my order I got impatient :crying:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Nonbiasedhippo:
Ummm... such an imperical statement that's simply not true. Tmobile has a long history of releasing phones way ahead of time.... I preordered my G6 and got it two weeks before the official release.... so there goes "everyone at once" theory.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bigmase23:
http://www.tmonews.com/2017/03/samsung-t-mobile-galaxy-s8-arctic-silver-100-off/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] LuigiBull23:
Anyone else think people who preorder later might get their tracking info sooner than those who ordered early like the Note 7? Y'all remember that? ??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] RMXO:
I just checked my TMO account and they credited me $25. So I take back my comment about them charging me an upgrade fee temporary. =)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Check you bank account , if get charged its mean your phone is ready for ship via UPS .

I just got charged on my account today and I think will get it by tomorrow . Pre-ordered last night at 9:01 PM CA time zone . My status has been change PREPARING FOR SHIPMENT .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] crawldit:
I must have gotten lucky. Logged in at 9:01 on the west coast and had a signed EIP and order confirmation by 9:04.

Can't wait to be back with Samsung. I had the Note 5, S7 Edge and Note 7 before trying the iPhone 7 plus. I loved the Note 7 and hope the S8+ is similar.

Based on what happened with the Note 7, I'm not expecting to see the 8+ early. I think Samsung put a stop to the early T-Mobile deliveries.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] drshorty:
Just wait.. is the same with the text. People not getting charge for it..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] cyclejoc:
What delivery date from your tracking number?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mweinbach:
people are getting charged. If you were charged already you will be getting a text soon saying it shipped.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] drshorty:
I got my at 12 pm. Today 4-13-17
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mweinbach:
Shipping message or the original one that it was packed?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DC2CA:
Just got an order update/tracking number email.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] amyf27:
When did you get charged?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] richierich118:
I was charged yesterday and got a email and text for tracking number
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] EVOme:
I need to get out of this thread. Giving me anxiety.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Shipped mean UPS will pick up box today and will wait for schedule delivery date . Because this is PRE-ORDER , the manufacture set date of release , and carrier already set estimate deliveried , they will ship to UPS and box will stay there until 19 for ship . That s what T Mobile done with last year Note 7 .

And as of this moment , just got text and no charged on card yet , order within 5 mins when it live for pre-order .

..... sighhhhh .....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
Ordered early morning on the 30th.

Received the packing text on the 11th.

Have not been charged.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] ggrant3876:
My CC has just been charged but no shipping text from T-Mo yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] kirdroid:
Receiving tracking numbers means nothing until UPS picks them up and moves thru the system. T-Mobile probably just creating labels like they did for note 7 and getting ready to ship them out later around 18th or 19th..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] ElBeaner:
Ordered on the 7th (had to wait due to LG G6 that I received 12 days early causing issue with JOD)

No text yet

Site says est ship 4/20/17-4/21/17
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
ONE MORE THING .....

If you live in CA or around California , cut off time for next day deliveried by UPS is 1PM pacific time ( 4pm in T Mobile warehouse in Louisville KY ) . If you got charge before 1PM , that will be fine for next day deliveried mean tomorrow . If you got charged after 1PM , that mean late for shipment next day . UPS will pick up all box has been charged before 4PM Louisville
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] hagalah:
Ok, here is my story.

Ordered on 3/29 9:10pm (PST) SF Bay area. Received email from credit card company and T-mobile for the payment card problem this morning. Call credit card company and got nothing strange (then why send me alert email?) but I DID get a temporary charge for $957 (pay off price for S8+).

Then call T-mobile, they asked me to verify my phone number because I didn't have account with them (switch from MetroPCS). Then update my credit card info again and complete my order. Everything works smoothly and customer representative give me congratulations for getting a good device...blah blah blah

then said: our warehouse will confirm and charge your card, then ship out the drive within 24-48 hours....

I don't know if this is true. I HOPE SO!

But when I call back like 1 hour later to confirm again my order status (because the online status is still shows: Preorder), I was told by a different representative that the order is completed , but they are still waiting for the device to be in stock then will let me get it on or before 4/21.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jer21:
This reeks of Note 7 deja vu - I got a tracaking number and still had no movement/had to wait like 6 days before something actually happened. Again, DON'T GET TOO EXCITED EVERYONE. I want it to ship soon the same as all of you but I'm not going get overhyped.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] rhl13:
a good time to be excited ???

Ordered at a Tmobile store on 3/30 around 7PM.

Received text about them processing my order yesterday 4/12

Credit card charged today 4/13

No email or text on shipping yet
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] RiChDAiLLeST1:
Unfortunately you are most probably correct about this. Wish the phones didn't just sit around to ship. Its a shame.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] pilot_xphile:
I received the text on Tuesday, was charged yesterday (it still shows as pending on my bank account though).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
Yep! That's why I not getting all hyped up. I say we it in hand next Thursday
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] MicroMod777:
If you get text or charge, please post your order date. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
March 30th
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] pilot_xphile:
Tracking number shows no information on UPS website, I haven't received any notification form UPS either.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Just got off phone with CS for update my card because didnt go through . And they said they collect money and will ship out today and will be deliveried on 20th ???

I'm asking why not tomorrow because paid for next day , he said since this is pre-order , we charged card for ship out to UPS and deliveried will be schedule base on Samsung release date , some will get sooner due to UPS .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] idksomuch:
March 29 at 9:13 pm PST. Got the packing text yesterday at around 1:40 pm. Just woke up and checked my banking account and see the T-Mo charge is "processing". No tracking text/shipped email yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Meanee:
T-Mobile had UPS sit on Note7 boxes after trucking it over to UPS. So they were all sitting in Louisville, and released 4-5 days later.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] dantes5823:
Are you guys who are getting shipping notice, did you order online phone or in store?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tourbound129:
UPS didn't sit on the shipment. TMobile scheduled a future pick-up.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] andyshannon:
How about this, only post here if you have some change in your status or got new information. over half of these posts are people just saying they haven't gotten anything yet even though other people have. It will make it easier for everyone to find the important information faster, ie. changes in others status. changes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Meanee:
I believe you are a bit mistaken there. When a future pickup is scheduled, tracking says "Billing information received" and not much more. Note7 was in this state for a day. Then it showed up in the UPS sorting facility. There it stayed for 3-4 days. Then they tossed everything on planes and it was delivered.

Unfortunately, since it happened a while back, my original tracking number only shows delivery and not actual package progress. But that's what it was.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] pilot_xphile:
I ordered by phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tourbound129:
Nope, I'm not mistaken. The phones sat at 'Label Created' for 5 days and then finally had an Origin Scan when they were picked up and loaded onto the planes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Meanee:
You may want to check old Note7 thread. It was sitting on Origin Scan for me and a lot of others. It could be that your shipment was different, but this is what happened to me and others.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] joeyac02:
Just got charged to my card!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Sincere11105:
You are correct
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] funziebear:
id call and have that credited to you they waived it for me that and the sim kit
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] debbie1420:
Yes I got charged and text. But I originally ordered on april 1st but cancelled that order because I decided I didn't want the s8+ so re-ordered on april 7th.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] funziebear:
Does your order say partially preorder ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] linkinx64:
Yes one of them does, I did confirm with them that the new card is in and that they accept it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] funziebear:
Hopefully they get to it soon mine says partially preordered :/ you paid in full or you doing eip ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] linkinx64:
EIP on both
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jer21:
nah
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] MicroMod777:
April 7th?? Wow there is madness to tmo's formula. Maybe somehow you kept your que from your 1st order.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] The Root:
Just got my text. Ordered on April 8th.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kambuja:
Same here, received an email that my CC was charged this morning at 6:48 am.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] racerxe24:
Same... Got my text and I ordered on 4/8. The difference I have seen with my text is that it has a last sentence that states: "We will start shipping on April 18th, prior to its release." I am thinking people who ordered earlier will get theirs much sooner...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] debbie1420:
Ya that's whay I was thinking my first order on april 1st was done at a tmobile store the rest was on the phone. because I ordered 2 s8 cancelled that ordered 1 s8 and 1 s8+ canceled that them 2 s8 lmao my bf got a text on his phone as well as myself yesterday and our card was charged today.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
Just got another text. My second s8+ preorder ,which was placed on the 8th, will be shipped the 18th. The first order was placed on 30th @ 12am and it said the 19th. Hmmm
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
Nice last in first out! I'll place mine now and skip all of you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
Oops forgot to post screenshot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] dantes5823:
I just got a similar text like 5 min ago.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] km8j:
I got my text yesterday. S8 silver on 4/1 JOD. Still no tracking.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] adio201:
Just got the text from T-Mobile now waiting for the card to be charged. I order mines on the 30th but got declined from well Fargo for fraud yesterday so they ran it again today. Now I ordered the s8 for my wife and I notice that my order for the s8 plus shows up as partially pre order while her order show only as pre order which I order it today at 10am Pacific time
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jrock79:
Preordered s8 plus midnight black yesterday​. Just got my text.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Bom792:
Got charged yesterday still no tracking ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] dantes5823:
Here
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] dtomlin:
I ordered s8 black on the 10th and got this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] MicroMod777:
YESSS FINALLY Got my text tooooo!!

I feel like I won the lottery!!!! Yippeeeee!!! :))))
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] ElBeaner:
Got my text. Ordered the 7th
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] MadHatter01:
Its been a little bit since someone posted a tracking number. So did a few get lucky or just fakes?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] PDXMatt:
It seems like they go out in batches.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jscarano:
Sweet just got my Get Ready! text about 10 mins ago! I ordered Midnight Black S8 on 4/5
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
They go out in batches. So probably tonight etc. Keep a look out on UPS Choice.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] amyf27:
Remember sometimes those dates can fluctuate-may got a tad earlier or adjust 1 or the other way.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jer21:
Maybe those that got the initial text about the 19th will get theirs even earlier. One can dream. if not...:confused::confused::confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Anyone got trouble by transaction didnt go through and you need to call them to update payment ?

I did call them to update payment and they updated , but the money still there no charged yet . How long will it take to T Mobile re-charged again ?

Call bank to verified and everything smooth out .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] EvoTillIdIE:
YEEEEEEE
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] pilot_xphile:
My proof

Here's my proof: I'm on JOD so the first text message was telling me they extended the date one month from today for me to send my S7 Edge back. Second text received one minute later providing tracking number. About 30 minutes later I received an email confirming the update on my order. UPS tracking number still not showing as valid on UPS website, I guess they are just making the labels and info will not update until UPS pick them up.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] km8j:
When did you order?

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When did you order?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] SBERG117:
But..But..But.. you got charged last week riiiiiiiiiiiiiight????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Meanee:
Still no tracking text here. Card charged yesterday. Oh well. Guess I am not (possibly) playing with it over the weekend.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] EvoTillIdIE:
I called at 12:00 On the DOT. The rep i talked to that weee early morning said i was his first Pre-order so i suppose i was front of the ---------
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Anyone have phone number at T Mobile warehouse in Louisville ? I need to call them
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] amyf27:
I'd drive there if they'd let me?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] notkiwi:
Its coming! Ordered on 30th at around 6pm EST.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] amyf27:
Hey now! I hope I get an update soon too