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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brandall:
Battery will only force charge

Folks, I only managed to get the Red Light of Death to go by force charging the battery using a cut up USB cable and then booting. Since then however, the phone will not charge the battery:

1) The charge light comes on but only for a limited time then goes off.

2) The backlight dims prior to this as if the phone was only on battery power.

I've checked the connections etc and therefore I can only assume that the phone is at fault as this hasn't coincided with any other changes I've made.

Can anyone suggest anything I can try to confirm the problem?

If not, I need to force charge all the way and get searching on how to return the phone to non updated SPL and stock ROM before ringing Orange.....

Oh joy.......... :mad:

Edit: The link to reverting to stock etc http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] IllusiaX:
You know when a PSP is bricked a great fix is a modified battery like the Datel Tool Battery http://www.amazon.co.uk/Datel-Tool-..._2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1233232198&sr=8-2

Allot of developers and techs have modified standard batteries to achieve the same result. Maybe something similar could be done for the tilt to successfully fix the RLD.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] F2504x4:
Just came across this thread, although mine works fine,

I am curious if those that have had issues (batt drain , no radio etc etc ) afterreviving their Tilt with this method , tried reflashing/reloading the stock rom ? The reason i am asking this is because when those that flash a lot of custom roms that have had issues,bugs etc , it seems that re-flashing the stock rom then reflashing a custom Rom , the problems go away.

Any merit to this ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rockpick:
I wanted to bring this one back to the top as a quick 'thank you' to everyone who has contributed. I was referred over here many years ago via HoFo and have lurked for a while. Great stuff here! Thanks.

As for the RLOD. I got it yesterday. I found this fix and, so far, I'm working. I pray the battery drain problem doesn't affect me...

Just curious... how many folks that got the RLOD that tried this fix and have worked, RLOD-free, ever since.

I'm worried that I'm going to see a cyclic pattern of it going in and out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pho3niX90:
This sounds very similar to what happend to me to fix my Kaiser.. It got some watter in the phone (dono how :( ) the sticker at the back of the battery (watter marker) and all 3 inside was red, the phone wouldn't come on, and if it does it shuts down again after 1 vibrate, strangely, I plugged it into my with the usb cable and took out the battery, then tried starting the phone that way, it eventualy worked but it was the onlyway i could het my phone into windows, so I eventually stripped everything and used some alcohol to clean all the connectors ect ect.. And it's good as new now/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jdiesel413:
I have a question about this, My phone is just not responding think I bricked it when I tried to flash. Now when I turn it on it automatically goes to bootloader and if I plug in the usb it wont acknowledge it unless I hold down the soft keys. Also if I try to flash or even hard reset it does it half way and then turns off. So my real question is... Do I now have a $600 brick and will at&t screw me if I send it back????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Twiddler:
Just a wrod of warning...

I know that this thread is a little stale, but I just wanted to point out something:

Don't try to flash a malfunctioning phone! If you are having any inconsistent behavior, you may compound your problems by bricking it.

I have a 181007(RC01)/US phone that was given to me because it was going dead in 4 hours. It was 2 days out of warranty, poor guy!

One BIG clue that I have about the battery life issue is this; pull the SIM and the battery lasts (at least in my case). This tells me that the drain is probably the radio circuit. This may also explain why some lose their radio when they get their RLOD fixed, maybe they blow a fuse to the radio?

I've been looking around for a fix but I have a request in with an AT&T guy that's doing some digging for me. If I find a fix, I'll let everyone know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abunai247:
woohoo... my phone lives!!! thank you XDA!!! you guys are the greatest... im sure the customer service reps at at&t hate me though. lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abunai247:
wait a minute...

phone doesnt seem to charge... it says charging but the battery is draining... just switched out the battery that had the initial issue gonna see if it charges on the stand and if the replacement charges in the cradle... crossing my fingers...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abunai247:
ok batteries take a charge out of the phone in the spare battery charging area on my cradle but wont charge in the phone...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abunai247:
bye bye HTC

Screw it looks like Apple just got another customer... as much as I hate to go to Apple HTC wants to charge me 376 bucks for a new motherboard?!?!?!?! For an outdated phone... I could go get the Fuze but that whole Red light of death for no reason kinda pissed me off. I watched some videos on the Fuze and its seems kinda laggy and I heard the battery life sucks worse than the tilt... I have a friend who has the Tilt and his lady has the Fuze... he says her battery life is worse... :mad: who knows if the iPhone sucks maybe ill get the Fuze and come back but I doubt it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] matttytn2:
The metal connectors on the back of the battery are the arial?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Uetzel42:
Red light of death with a HTC touch 3450.

Had the same probelm. Tried everything. Still death.

Now I tried your method ... and ... WORKED.

The HTC touch is alive again. THANKS very much!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] UnusualSuspect:
Long-time lurker, first-time poster. I've gotten a lot of help and insight from this forum over the past year+. So....

Woke up this morning to a RLoD on my AT&T WM6.1 Stock-ROM Tilt. It was working perfectly last night...

Okay, I popped the battery and did the thing with re-seating it rapidly until I heard the 'pop' noise that people speak of. Put the battery back in, and the phone came to life, but was acting "funny". On first try, it said the battery was nearly dead. I put in my extra (Seido 1600mAH) battery. Things got better, but I noticed that the Tilt was really hot on the top edge.

I pulled the battery and let the unit cool down. Put the battery back in, and over several power-downs and soft-resets, things got better.

It seems like I have all the PDA functions back, but it will not connect to the network. It "searches" for a long time and occasionaly reports that it's connected, but when I try to make a call, it immediately reports "No Service". WiFi works, I haven't tried Bluetooth. ActiveSync works just fine over a USB connection.

I did a hard reset, removed bloatware and restored from my latest backup. Still no joy - this beast will not connect to the network, and the battery is draining at a crazy rate.

I wonder if maybe that heat I felt at the top edge of the unit after it came back to life wasn't the antenna circuits frying?

Has there been any news on this subject? I'm out of warranty and have no insurance.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nikiu:
My HTC S730 fell accidentally from my chair on the carpet and now it doesn't turn on. When I put the usb cable or the wall charger, the RLOD comes up. I tried at least twice or three times every method you mentioned here and nothing happens. :( Sh**, buying a phone like this where I live is like a monthly salary. Did anyone come up with any new solution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Berth666:
Since ~ two weeks i've got a HTC Kaiser.

I buid it with a broken screen, so i buid a new screen and replaced it.

I bought a new battery (not original), with it the phone works.

First try with new Screen was perfekt, but Slide-Keypad didn't work so i have to open the phone again.

After changing the Keypad und Turned on the phone, it boots and then

suddenly the phone turned off and the rlod began to light.

I did few thinks:

* take battery out

* take simcard out

* bend the 2 contacts up

* placed the battery in an angel, that the metal-blade don't touch the 2 contacts i bent up

* put the batty forward and backward very fast

but nothing happend!

I did last part with charge-cables and holding the power-button too..but - nothing!

Do i do something wrong?

Others..

if the battery is in the phone, i hold power-button and connect the charger-cable, the slide-keybad begin to shine and there is not a rlod.

Without the power-button there is not a keybad shining and i see the rlod.

And..without charge cable, if i press the power-button nothing happens, but if i release the button, the slide-keypad shine for a ~half second.

Sorry for my english, i'm from Germany..

greetings
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cahpcat:
ActuaLLy did work for me. My fone faced the RLOD back in Feb/March of this year. I followed up on many suggestions and this seemed to be 1 that helped out a bit. My only problem afterward is that my Battery life after was NEVER the same again. But the fone has and stiLL is working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Berth666:
there's a video of my problem..

http://www.youtube.com/user/1337tmracer#p/a/u/0/7A9o0qDZ078
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jesgatt:
Fixed rlod

I had the same problem. After opening the mobiel for a microphone problem, some flux went under the CPU and after assembly, the battery drained. I re-opened the mobile and cleaned the flux. I tried to switch it on but the RLOD came on. I tried the procedure of the battery at an angle but with no success. Then I gave the battery a 5V charge(with the PC power supply, RED and Black) for about 3 mins. Connected the battery in the mobile and the mobile switched on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dicespice:
I owe him 10 bucks!

IT REALLY WORKED!!

Fixed my issue with the RLOD on my TILT. I was ready to buy a busted screen tilt that powered up and swap my screen in it.

I was sceptical, but desperate at the same time.

I tried to reseat the everything, tried with SIM, without, on power, without power. Tried cleaning the contacts with an eraser, and alcohol swab etc.

Bouncing the battery and holding my mouth just right fixed it.

I heard it buzz when it vibrated the phone for second, and I was like NO WAY! HOLY S**$! :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jsimpson82:
My fix

I too had a RLOD and did a number of things to solve it.

First of all, my root cause. It appears to me that the socket on my phone has one or more leads broken loose inside the phone. While I've dealt with such a situation on laptops and other devices by resoldering the connection, I don't feel comfortable taking my tilt apart to apply such a fix. Maybe at the local hackerspace, but not on my own.

Anyway, I didn't figure the above out until fighting my RLOD for a long time. One day my tilt stopped charging (as a result of the above) and I wasn't sure why... I ended up using my old blackjack 2 for a long time as a result.

Over a year after my first RLOD I decided to poke at my tilt again. I dug up a 5.1 VDC cord meant for an IP camera and clipped the wires, then connected it to the battery for a day. I then put it in the tilt... no dice.

So I took a next step... I wired up this power source directly to the positive and negative terminals inside the phone, then put the battery in. I plugged the normal tilt charger into the phone, then plugged my jury rigged direct to battery charger into the wall...

Moments later, I had a yellow light. In retrospect, I think this is because the charging port on the phone is messed up. Regardless, the phone now works again (for weeks now) with a little fiddling of how I position it when charging.

So that's my story. Analyze away.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jsimpson82:
Follow up: mine is still working, but IF I let it run down all the way it won't charge until I repeat the little jump start process. But this works consistently, once I attach both the set of leads to the battery and the real charging cord, I get a yellow light within seconds and can boot within a minute.

It makes me work real hard not to let it run down, though!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Lethol:
My TyTN II had the RLOD after placing it on the charger last night. I fixed mine by leaving the charger plugged in and removing the SIM and SD card and bumping the battery on the connectors a few times till the orange light came on.

Will see how long it lasts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bigpimpin75:
battery

it worked for me for about 1 min and went off again!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonydix:
Can anyone help me with a copy of this file to upgrade my captivate to kit kat ?

Many thanks

Tony
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] hentati:
kodi hangs after installation on aicp for K5 plus.

Sorry for my bad English and thanks for replay
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] hentati:
Error fixed after update 02/04/2017
[Lenovo Vibe K4 Note ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] affroz:
I cannot understand as to why most of the ROM Android 7.1.1 are having video camera problem.

And why everyone is picking up lineage os for further development of ROM, even the it has problem already known.

So it will be better if some just ports a pure AOSP
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] MaStErB_1984:
I want to talk about how disappointed I am about Elephone in general. I really thougt buying this phone (P9000) would be fun and give me more flexibility for custom roms. I bought my phone in august 2016 and was really excited about the features and hardware. Now Im tired about a phone running unstable on almost every rom. Not talking about the worst support I´ve ever seen. Im switching to sony...was not disappointed to see what able to do with there roms and hardware. I bought my girlfriend a Xperia Z1 and hey...strange it works..everything is running great. For myself I ordered now the Xperia Z5 Premium dual...

Wanted to say thank you to every developer who is trying to bring stability to the P9000. Sry about my english...

kind regards,

Benni
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] farsiray:
I have a P9000 for about 10 months now. It's an okay phone. I don't have that many issues with it, my worst issue with it: GPS is very laggy. For the rest I'm okay with it. Not overly excited though.

General experience that I got from the Elephone forum: The company sells phones with great specs, but their quality control lacks. I got sort of lucky with my P9000, but many have all sort of hardware issues with battery, bluetooth, etc.

The customer service is zero to none. My advice: stay away from buying Elephone
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] jotei66:
Yeah I can see your point exactly and can understand why you have moved to another brand. I'm doing the same very shortly.

I have been using my P9000 over 12 months now and to be fair my P9000 has been hardware issue free (thankfully) and as its been an okay phone considering what I paid for it. There was a time I enthusiastically promoted this phone for its specs and price point.

It must be said though, in order to get my P9000 to a state of being usable as a daily driver I have had to do many fixes, changing ROMs etc.. The GPS (as highlighted above) seems to be one of the main frustrations many face and although a software fix is available, the overall GPS performance is still pretty poor even after this fix.

It certainly wasn't a great phone to use "straight outta the box" so to speak. Flashing ROMs etc (for me anyway) wasn't a major issue but for the everyday customer who perhaps isn't into flashing new ROMs etc it must be a real frustration for those customers - after all it seems Elephone's main answer to most of their customers issues is (you guessed it) reflash the ROM or change to custom ROM. (which most of the time doesn't resolve the issue anyway!)

Sadly, although great specs for its price the P9000 has been let down by poor buggy ROMs / software. and if I may add poor backup/support & communication from Elephone. I think many who are awaiting the Nougat update are hoping most of the issues will be resolved (recent post of Elephone forum indicates they have addressed the fingerprint scanner issue and Nougat to be released very soon) and I really hope for the sake of these customers this update delivers.

And yes, I am so thankful for the time of the many Devs who have provided custom ROMs to make using this phone less of a hassle.

Good to hear you are enjoying your new Sony handset ;0)
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] MaStErB_1984:
Yesterday my new sony arrived... I cant find words how freakin awesome this phone is :) Thank you both for your opinions.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] stand-offish:
Have ditched my Elephone p9000

I have had this phone since its launch in April 2016.

It is a fast phone. The screen is nice.

It looks good.

However, it is too odd.

The camera is crap in low light.

The updates are unreliable and since August 2016, I can't update via OTA.

Elephone have cocked things up.

The battery life is getting seriously poor.

I can no longer link the phone with Windows 10.

SD card issues as well.

Because it is Chinese, SKY don't recognise it, neither do NFC certifiers.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fallout23:
I have a P9000 lite since 12/2016 and I can't say that I'm disappointed or anything. Flashed CM13 from Deepflex and it works pretty well.

Guess I have been lucky so far. Can't say much about the support though, but it seems like it's absolutely terrible...

I think my next phone is going to be a Xiaomi though, they seem to be better and still provide good hardware for a good price. So yeah, while I didn't have any issues with my P9000 lite so far, I see how many issues other people have AND the terrible support...that's reason enough for me to not support Elephone anymore.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] stand-offish:
Swapped my p9000 for a Samsung S7 edge and am delighted with it.

The Samsung is a quality phone in all ways ....the Elephone is NOT!

Oddly enough I will miss using my Elephone but not the company that makes it.

Goodbye to all things Elephone including this forum of people's misfortunes with Elephone.

On to better things .......
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] Michiel0912:
What about the price difference? You can not compare a P9000 against an S7 edge...
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] stand-offish:
Well on the face of it no ... the S7 edge handset costs three times what an Elephone p9000 costs.

HOWEVER, it is not all about that ... it's more to do with what I pay over two years and VALUE FOR MONEY!

The Elephone cost me £184 and to use it I had a SIM deal at £8 per month. Over two years that is £192 to the phone company.

Total of Elephone p9000 and two year's SIM = £376.

Now you can get a S7 edge brand new, no upfront cost for £27 per month for 24 months (and that is slowly coming down because of the S8)

That is £27x24 = £648 everything in.

Now the difference is £648 - £376 = £272

Now let's share that over 104 weeks = £2.62 per week more.

So for Two pounds sixty two pence more a week I have a state of the art Samsung Galaxy S7 edge compared with an Elephone p9000, which doesn't even work properly and is next to worthless!

My S7 is running on Android 7.0 nougat, I would probably be dead before Elephone could update me to that.

The reason being is that as of August 20016 Elephone rendered my Elephone p9000 incapable of updating at all. And they have NEVER rectified this for many users (and lost customers).

And if Elephone think that users are going to mess about flashing ROMs to rectify this, then they are deluded!

The simple fact is the whole Elephone p9000 experience was a nightmare.

I hope this helps.:)
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] carlx:
I've been Disappointed in Sony (Z1,Z2) HTC One M7/M8 Samsung S2/S4 Note 2 and 3 at one one or another it is part of modern life you get sold one thing by BIG company's and in the end over time it becomes something else, The S7 is now over a year old Samsung will slowly stop supporting it like the S5 and the Notes the S6 is slowly losing support it happens get on with it that is why people come to XDA to fix things and extend the life of the devices.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] stand-offish:
How people can go off at tangents is a never ending source of amazement.

This is about what a useless piece of property that Elephone has rendered the p9000.

Hence comparisons are relevant.

Yes we all know support is conditional and time dependent. But Elephone are taking the Michael.

If you think this forum is being criticised and conflating it with criticism of Elephone then think again.

People shouldn't have to scrat about on xda to find fixes for what Elephone should fix for them.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] SharkyMoto:
i honestly dont get what problems some guys have? from what i hear about the desire to have custom roms while expecting everything to work 100% right out of the box? i mean in what universe do you live?

if you want something that "just works" buy an iphone.

Elephone and mostly all other chinese manufacturers are still at the beginning in making their own stuff, yet it is incredible how far they have come. if you take samsung as the biggest manufacturer - elephone can keep up. samsung support is not less horrible than elephones. but their phone is at least open for development and the manufacturer kinda shows emphasis with us customers.

tldr;

dont buy a phone for little money when you dont want to put some effort in it to make it work for you.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] carlx:
100% get a contract live with it for 24 months and don't even bought with XDA, I don't lick IPhone but you have to say something Apple know how to offer surport but even they don't surport phone foe even.
[Elephone P9000 Guides, News, & Discussion] stand-offish:
I am not sure how £184 counts as little money.

I also think that if you buy anything you expect it to work and be fit for purpose.

I bought a Chinese phone for my grandson at Christmas for £106 .... a Cubot. I can't rememember the model. It is on Amazon and has an animal name.

It has not quite got the specs of the p9000. But do you know what? He likes it better than my defunct p9000. The screen is brighter for a start. The p9000 might have nice vibrant colours but the screen is dull, just like the awful photos it takes.

He has had no problems with the Cubot.

I had many problems with the p9000.

SD card recognition problems. SIM card problems. Awful photo problems. Battery life problems. Fingerprint recognition problems. Interface problems. Rogue phone dialling problems.

I also damaged the Jack port so stereo only came out of the left channel. Thus was achieved by catching the speaker lead in a door handle and yanking the plug out.

An accident yes. Not the phone's fault. But just how does one get it fixed?

There are only a few people in the UK that can work on Elephone phones because of lack of parts.

Whereas parts from the big phone companies are plentiful.

Don't buy an Elephone p9000 ... just don't.