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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] parusia:
I think a lot of people here are giving their opinion without knowing how JOD was explaining to us when we sign for it few years ago.

JOD was supposed to be no cost upfront, taxes are supposed to be added to the monthly payment, shouldn't be a down payment for BASIC MODELS, take Apple phones as an example. Apple basic model just to be 16gb, that model was zero upfront cost, then if you want the 32gb you had to pay XX.XX money upfront. The problem with the Galaxy S8+ is that T-Mobile is taking the Galaxy S8 as the basic model and the Galaxy S8 Plus as the non basic model meaning that they are entitled to charge us JOD customers a down payment upfront.

I don't think anybody here want a discount in price, what everybody in JOD plan it's asking, is that T-Mobile don't take the approach of putting the Galaxy S8 Plus as the non basic model, these two phones are different models. If T-mobile take that approach the monthly payment is going up but that doesn't matter because that is what we signed for. We as JOD customers we don't want reduced price, we want what we signed for.

I didn't pre order the galaxy S8 Plus on JOD after I see the down payment because that defeats the purposed of JOD (leasing a phone). Instead I ordered from Samsung direct, I was ready to pay in full, but I saw the 24 month installment without interest, and I preordered like that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Biker1:
After careful thought regarding using my original Jump to upgrade to the S8+ from my current S7 Edge, which btw my replacement arrived, due to the vertical pink line issue, I can't reason paying $200 up front for a phone which I'll likely be upgrading in a year or so.

With that in mind, I was thinking to upgrade to the S8, but that phone's screen appears smaller than my S7 Edge screen, in addition to having only a 3000mAh battery, so I'll likely be keeping my S7 Edge. If I purchase from Samsung Direct, I'll be stuck with the S7 Edge and the balance that is due.

The S8+ would have been a nice upgrade, but not for $130 + taxes up front.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Th3Bill:
This tread has really fallen off the deep end. Has gone from S8/8+ and preorder to JOD squabbling. Any way the JOD stuff can be taken elsewhere? I get the want to discuss it and "win" your given argument, but for someone who has notifications for this thread on, it's quite annoying that I keep getting em for off topic stuff.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
I was told by a supervisor this morning it will be shipping Monday the 17th for Samsung.com USA orders.

I DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING SAMSUNG SAYS.

This is regarding my T-Mobile S8 $650 Samsung.com order.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Rado_vr6:
Couldn't have said it better myself. These aren't cheap devices and the amount of people complaining about paying money upfront is ridiculous. What if there was no financing? What would these people do then? Start selling everything not bolted down and still manage to get the phone somehow. Just pay the money and get the phone you want.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
One minute googling would prove what I'm saying wealthy people arent wealthy because they spend top dollar but because they know how to make a good deal. Now I'm not talking about Oprah or Warren buffet wealthy but the average millionaire.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Nonbiasedhippo:
Again, no valid source for your specific, yet incredibly inaccurate claim. Also, finding one random article on the web to back up your claim is lousy reporting....You're not convincing anyone that a legitimate millionaire would complain about 100$ or 130$. Not spending money or always going cheap doesn't magically make you wealthy. If anything, real world experience in my own life proves you incorrect.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
What I don't get is why more people arent upset? Last year's these phone cost $669 and $769 at launch and now the are both almost $100 more. What warrents these phones to carry that price tag in the first place. If you say the included premium headphones, well they could have kept those as I already have wireless premium headphones. And if it is the Gear VR they could keep that as well. I had the one for last year's model and only use it a few times and got bored. A better option would have been to keep the price the same and off a lower price on the headphones and VR with the phone purchase.

This is a common theme now. Even when buying a car before you could by a base model and add things on as you pleased. Now everything is part of a special package. You want the premium wheels, oh you need the luxury package. Let me choose dammit. Lol.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] se1000:
+1 on taking the JOD discussion and general whining elsewhere.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bishmaster5000:
I'm going to build my own thread with black jack and hookers (and no JOD discussion).

As for on topic, I finally bit the bullet and pre-ordered my GS8+ and now I've begun obsessively checking both GS8 and GS8+ forums, google news sites, as well as the subreddit. I was fine just reading about it once a day until I pre-ordered and now I've joined the crazy train. *sigh* Also I paid off my V20 balance yesterday before I pre-ordered and apparently that confused the online system, because now it says I have a large credit on my account and my V20 EIP is paid off. So now I'm obsessively checking my pre-order and my bill balance. I didn't need to do anything productive for the next 2 weeks anyway
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jdiddy_ub:
Awhile I agree that prices are getting more and more out of hand, no one is forcing us to buy these things. This is a product I want and I will have to pay what the price is to purchase it.

I am not someone that had to save for months to buy this but I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't have to pause to think about how I'm spending almost a grand on a phone...but that's the cost and I'm not going to complain because this is a luxury item that I wanted to treat myself to

Do I wish that T-Mobile had deals like some of the other carriers or retailers..Of course I do...Even reading this thread makes me want to give them a call seeing how people for credit back...I chuckle when I see "loyalty" for being a customer for 2 years..I've been with T-Mobile for over 15 years. There have been times when they have helped me out..I remember when the note 2 came out I told them that I couldn't justify paying full price and asked if they could help me out for being with them so long and they took $200 off just like that on the phone..Put a note on my account and told me to walk into any T-Mobile store and pick it up..Then last year then sent out the unlimited data until 2019 thing...I'm not going to call them about the s8 and feel like they "have to" lower the price for me though..If I were to call, it would be with the understanding that it might not happen but I'm still a satisfied customer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
Sorry Bro, from here on out I will refrain and incourage everyone to stop saying anything negative about the S8 and S8 +. It is very obvious that this thread is intended to be all rainbows, sunshine, and hearts. Sorry when the thread said T-Mobile S8 Preorder I thought it meant all aspects of preorders not just the fuzzy and friendly stuff. Well hopefully people stop being negative, well until next week when people start going crazy wondering why their phone hasn't shipped and the ones ordered on Samsung did. Tootles.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] se1000:
You can say what you want about the device, I don't really give a damn. I just would prefer to stay on topic. The last couple pages have been nothing but whining about JOD. Nobody gives a ****. Buy the phone or not, simple as that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
The contradictions are strong in you. ???

You TRIED, you FAILED... Stop being Salty.

The difference is you kindly asked.

I firmly requested.

It's not about not being able to afford $130 because I'm getting 3 S8 Plus for my family. It's about not KINDLY Settling. Do you back down everytime someone says no to you?

You know why the wealthy stay wealthy, cuz their CHEAP. You want to GIVE T-Mobile a $130 donation, be my guest, maybe it'll qualify for a tax write off...Lol

Don't hate on us for not giving in, like you did, after this first generic response.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
:rolleyes: Enjoy your credit.

And back on topic.

We probably wont see any charges on CC's until next weekend, then labels created after that. Thats my opinion,
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] km8j:
This isn't how accounting, costing, business or anything else works really. Assuming your $300 number is right, that only represents the variable cost of producing one individual handset. Not overhead, R&D, cost allocation of other things and profit.

Negotiating is also not the same as demanding credits and stuff.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
Tell that to the Salty Mofos who got DENIED. Us credit receivers are good!

I can buy many cases of IPA with all that credit...

?????? CHEERS!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
Lol. They swear wealthy people are even paying a dime for this phone. They just write it off as a business expense.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
We demanded credit, and negotiated with them with the leverage of me paying them $250 a month for my 6 lines. I asked them, Which was more important, losing a down payment, or losing a down payment and monthly payments...

You're paying them, you control the outcome.

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It's true, my upgrade to the Note 7 & LG V20 last year were written off as business expenses, as will this $130 down payment.

Uncle Sam doesn't know I got a bill credit... Lol

Work smarter not harder.

John Legere thanks you for that $130 donation. It funds his slow cooker Sundays... Lmfao
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] MicroMod777:
Dang, sorry I stared a firestorm! lol

Well my G4 died yesterday before it could reach the finish line. Damm Samsung holding us back!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
OMG !! 86 pages and still complain about $130 for downpayment ???

Call T MOBILE , email T MOBILE , chat to T MOBILE ! PLease

This thread all about waitting and shipping for device , not about your JUMP , JOD or upgrade complain for downpayment.

Go somewhere else for complain , nobody in here can help you out with this . There was a thread you can disccuss , go find it ...

THIS THREAD IS ALL ABOUT WAITTING AND SHIPPING
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DC2CA:
Tax fraud, cool.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
Dont fuel the fire.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
More like knowing how to manage money...

And not being ok with just donating it.

Let me guess, they denied your passive attempt as well...

Saltines everywhere in this thread...

??????
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DC2CA:
Tax evasion isn't "managing money". My post had nothing to do with getting a credit. I don't have jump or JOD but nice assumption. We all know what they say about assuming.

I wouldn't joke around about tax fraud when your username is your actual name.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] SBERG117:
Wow the troll who spreads lie's about confirmations that never happened is complaining about people talking about honest issues..... Now that's funny..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
I dont approve of tax fraud but it's funny that when we do it they call it tax evasion but when "45" and people like him do its called being a smart business man.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] familydude99:
Guys... Please...

Take this circlejerk somewhere else.

Anyways, i have a black s8+ coming. Here's to hoping i get it shipped early
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
So Dave, how much of a credit did you get with your 3 s8 plus preorders? 65.00?

I know I know, back on topic.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
Lmfao, $65 for mine, I gotta wait for insurance claims to go through on the other 2 cuz my family fumblers have cracked screen returns... Smh

But I'm taking no less than $130 each for the other 2.

Oh no, the Internet is going to get me for getting a bill credit... Lmfao
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
Interesting
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
After 2 $175 assurant claims I'm still in the hole for $25, after the down payment bill credits... ???
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Nonbiasedhippo:
It's a good thing he paid about 25%....more then Bernie and Obama can say lol also, since when was paying the minimum legally due "evasion" who would actually pay more then legally required? No one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
so you were half denied. :laugh:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
I was half credited...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
glass half full/half empty...still half a glass
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Oseis:
UGH!!!

My S7 Edge just got an update and now it is unusable!!!

I am on with T-Mobile seeing what options they are willing to do because I pre-ordered an S8+. Fingers crossed.

For those interested on the decline of an S7 Edge, I posted the benchmarks here: https://xdaforums.com/s7-edge/help/s7-edge-extremely-poor-benchmarks-t3587080

T-Mobile customer support is a threat to tolerance.....

:mad::mad::mad:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] mlock420:
This is turning into YouTube comment sections... Did these fools really bring up presidents in our beloved xda?... We just can't get away from the fuh ish.....lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] HighOnLinux:
I'm switching from MetroPCS to T-mobile and am getting a Galaxy S8 around 3 days later of its release date. Would i still qualify for the bonus of the Gear VR, even though it's a pre-order bonus?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
They will probably be desperate to sell these phones so the freebies will be flowing for a very long time
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] HtcOnekid:
It seems ups is expanding Saturday delivery to dirrrent cities , hopefully the note 8 Would be shipped out on a Friday to receive it Saturday.

This is great news i am so excited about future shipping

https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2017/04/04/ups-saturday-shipping/22025685/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
In the words of the great CharlieB620,

In other pressing news:

STILL no movement on the Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus.

That credit though... More Salt Please!!! View attachment 4107192
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
Clear Data, Clear Cache, Factory Reset. USABLE!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Oseis:
Done, done, done, unusable!!!

I am reduced to my S6 Edge until my S8+ arrives.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
If we're comparing bill credits.

now granted this has nothing to do with the S8+ but a bill credit all the same. I paid off a device I had on EIP, plus the 20.00 "upgrade fee"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DLovo313:
You tried kies?

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They'll update it. I had like a -$1k balance when the whole Note7 fiasco ended. It took like 2 months but they even got it right.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] bamfsig45:
Yes I know. Not my first rodeo.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] CB620:
Well we beat out the Note 7 thread lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Cyberguycpt:
Oh your talking about the taxes he leaked on his own to show he paid something the year he needed them to be sweaky clean when Melania was trying to get her papers. Lol. Alternative facts right. Lol. Lets see those 2012,13,14,15 lol. Those will tell a different story. [emoji43]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] eaglerazor123:
There is a discussion going on that tmobile starts shipping them this overnight from its warehouse. Read it on tmobile reddit though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/62a2b0/megathread_galaxy_s8_discussion_preorder_thread/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Nonbiasedhippo:
Oh boy. You have a massive tin foil hat on. Nothing would be good enough for you. What are you gonna guess every year? First they said he hadn't paid in the past 20 years now it's this year or that year lol But hey, let's see Hilary Clintons emails, oh wait, she wiped them. If Trump truly didn't pay his taxes, he would be in jail. Maybe that was Russia too [emoji5]You can't just avoid taxes for years and years. MAGA
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
You mean random people guessing when it might start shipping?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] eaglerazor123:
Yeah random people based on previous patterns and insights i guess. :confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
The link you posted started like this.

"Is it time to start guessing when the phones will ship if not tonight? I'm going to guess Tuesday."

Followed by a few other random guesses
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] eaglerazor123:
If you go down into few more comments, you'll know what I'm talking about. Yes, those are random guesses. I'm in no way supporting those :) . I ordered my S8+ (At&t) and I'm waiting too :highfive:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] 954wrecker:
You mean the guys talking about how ups doesnt ship on the weekends? I'm guessing these phones will all start shipping Monday the 17th.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] marinebio94:
Clearly you've never used Reddit before
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] eaglerazor123:
My guess is around this midweek, considering that Canada is getting them on 17th.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] soggly:
Thing is Tmobile has shipped late Sunday into Monday before, thought it was the weirdest thing when it happened with my 7edge, so who knows
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Oseis:
Anyone order a case yet?

I ordered the Zizo Bolt case. I have it for my S7 Edge and I love it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Alix8821:
I got 3 Spigen Cases....

1) Neo Hybrid

2) Liquid Air

3) Ultra Hybrid

Also got iCarez tempered glass screen protector
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
All this drama....Who cares if TMO has shipped early in the past. I'm gonna go off of my recent experience with preordering the note 7. We will probably get charged at the end of the week (Friday or Saturday), label will be create and not move until the 19th and we will receive the devices on the 20th-2st. I hope that isn't the case but after the note 7 I'm not setting myself up for the letdown. It seems samsung has put a straggle hold on the carriers and shipping too early. Not the case for other brands. So how about we stay on topic and stop pulling things out of our asses...But do keep an eye out for reliable sources that have been verified and do share that. The note 7 (og thread) version of this thread was way more informative with less bickering. Let's keep that alive!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Oseis:
I got the Zizo because it comes with a tempered glass screen protector and they slashed the price from 30 bucks to 13.

Win!!

:highfive:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] tnick84:
You talking about this one? I actually kinda like it. Not really into holsters but the case is good. Might get this as an outdoors case.

Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus Case, Zizo [Bolt Series] w/ [Galaxy S8 Plus Screen Protector] Kickstand [Military Grade Drop Tested] Holster Belt Clip - S8+ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXYG4RP/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_.2T6yb8PKMG15
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Oseis:
Yuppers, that be the one!

;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] soggly:
That is on topic but okay, better than previous comments about down payments, anyway I contacted Tmobile on Twitter and they did say the 19th now so at least we're guaranteed one rather than going in store, could be worse lol ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Bom792:
But the reps are not reliable so........
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Some people comment on Reddit with their card has been charged and debitted . So , will be the shipping begin by tomorrow ?

Here is the link : https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co..._galaxy_s8_discussion_preorder_thread/dg21wpm
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] DrexelDragon:
Nowhere in that thread are people saying their cards were charged
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] soggly:
So then what would your best guess be for when? Tmobile is so random sometimes
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Nonbiasedhippo:
Just thought the same thing lol

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I'd say between now and the 21st.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Bom792:
For all we know thay will ship out out on the 21st
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] GoogleFan:
I think they will ship on the 18th like samsung and hopefully I'll get mine on 4/20!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Bom792:
If they ship out on the 18th then most of will get it on the 19th as we have free next day shipping
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] kirdroid:
Until we see lots of card charged posts with screenshots, don't even bother about shipping.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
Some people got status change from PRE ORDER to SHIPPED TO

Anyone , please click refresh on your T Mobile app and see what happend .... yet
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] JakaFathom:
Anyone else's order change from being proceed and showing details to saying thanks for your order, details not available yet, please check back later?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] soggly:
On Tmobile you mean? When did you preorder?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] JakaFathom:
On the T-Mobile app and website, my order went from showing details of the order and being processed to saying being processed with no detail at all. Wondering if anyone else is seeing that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Semantics:
Just checked. Seeing the same thing. I also got a 404 error the first time I clicked on order status. I think there is nothing to see here. The site might be a little wacky right now.\

Says this - Being Processed

Thank you for your order. Details status information for your order is not yet available. If your order was placed recently, updates will be available soon, please check back later.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] JakaFathom:
That's what I was thinking, didn't feel like calling about or anything since it only changed less than a half hr ago plus still no charge.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Kid84:
I think T Mobile just update their server every sunday night . Thats why