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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] luvmy356:
My 10 day old Tilt experienced the RLOD while sitting on the wall charger. I'm not sure how I fixed it as I tried various combination of button presses, resets, battery wacks, fiddling with the contacts, but gave up. And when I tried again an hour later, it turned on, but worked for only 24 hours before the red light came back. This second time, I haven't been as lucky.

So Amazon.com overnighted me a new one, and before I configured the replacement, I stuck the new battery into my old Tilt, and it booted up. At least I'm able to use the opportunity to wipe off the data before sending it back.

Just to confirm it was just a battery issue in my case, I put the old battery back in my replacement Tilt and I just get the red light when attempting to charge.

I wonder if the wall charger fried the battery? I'm sending it back with the old Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] uncle_odb:
This worked for me!

Hi guys. I've had my tilt since the beginning of January. I love the phone, but was always nervous about the RLOD that I kept reading about. Well, it just happened to me this evening. The last time I used the phone in the afternoon, I had about an 85% charge on the battery. I left the phone on my desk and went back to check on it before going to sleep later at night. My phone was completely dead; it would not turn on. Plugged in the charger and the dreaded red light came on. With or without the battery in, the red light stayed when having the charger plugged in. I took out my sim and storage card, and did exactly what someone else mentioned here. I held the battery in at a 45 degree angle, and basically pushed the battery against the contacts quickly, like 3-4 times per second while pressing on to the power button. (oh my phone was still connected to the charger). I only did this for about 15 seconds, then my RED light turned into Yellow. After that, I just pushed the battery back in and closed the back cover. I turned on the phone and it still has about 81% battery charge left. I'll see how long this lasts. I hope this doesn't happen again and the phone works great from now on. This is very upsetting because I love this phone! :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] joe22359:
now after bringing it back from the dead i am not getting any incoming or outgoing calls...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] uncle_odb:
Holy crap, no incoming or outgoing calls? Did this happen right after you brought it back from the dead? Or did this just start happening today? I am thinking maybe a hard reset is needed. Don't really know myself. After I brought mine from the dead, i think my battery life has gotten worse. Just great!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] owegophil1:
My RLoD experience

was using wizard for 2 years with no problem

bought a rebuilt kaiser/tilt from ATT north america

181007(RC01)/US

quickly installed latest dutty ROM and radio

got the RLoD this weekend. the phone behaved like it was ALMOST out of power, and i could turn it on, log in briefly, but then it would shut off due to no power. during this time while plugged in and turned off, the Amber charging light was on. After about 2 hours, then only the red ligth would appear. From then on, it was red lighting.

took it to ATT store tonight, and explained that i thought i needed a different battery because mine would not charge with either USB or wall plug. the clerk, who didn't seem knowledgable, dissappeared in the back, and returned - confirming that the battery was no good. i don't think she did anything.

so, got the new battery. phone booted up fine. had 56% of factory charge on the phone. got home, plugged in, and to my suprise, the phone continues to DROP in charge over last 3 hours. ( I haven't been using it.)

When I go to the Power screen, it says

Recharging State: Recharging

however the phone continues to lose power, and the charge light near the earpiece flashes.

when the phone is off, it's solid amber. however, there is no evidence that it's charging.

it appears that the phone cannot charge the battery. the battery merely continues to lose charge, until it has nothing left.

so, i sit here, helpless, as my phone loses 'blood', and it will die soon.

i feel like i'm watching The Abyss, and Ed Harris is desperately trying to give his wife CPR.... me - Ed, CPR - XDA and various chargers, wife - phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] my95z34:
I dont know if it's true with the Tilt, but with the Mogul, if it's plugged in and the amber light blinks, it means that it is too hot and is no longer charging. I used to get that when I would be using ICS.

Hope it helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] snooginsguy:
I got the ROLD yesterday. :@ I will vouch for the OP's technique, it worked to some degree for me, at least such that I could reset the SPL back to factory and get a warranty replacement. One thing I did differently was instead of bouncing the battery rapidly off the terminals, I would push it against the terminals, with the power button pressed, and the phone would start to boot up then shut off, at which point I'd pull the battery back off and push it on again. So, a slower process but similar. Once the phone actually did boot up, I had the same issues others have reported of a really hot phone and virtually no battery life. I also had the added bonus of it not connecting to the network, so it was not even useable as a crippled phone. Joy!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mouragio:
I've got the same issue here....

After bringing to life for you guys it looks like the radio on the motherboard is crippled?

I've contacted HTC in the netherlands; and tomorrow they will pick it up for warranty.

b.t.w. I've got an custom rom on it... but anyways... If I can't boot it up so can't the repairman... the only thing is that if they can manage to boot it they can say it's the rom thats caused it... but i think it is a small chance.

I ain't gonna try the jump start thing above because i think it will do more damage then good?

I will keep ya'll posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mouragio:
Ok; Yesterday i've got mine back. HTC uses eurotwice(.be) for repairs (warranty or not).

They have replaced the whole motherboard; beacuse i've got a new IMEI number.

So if you got an RLOD and you have warranty (mine was 2 years) then call HTC support and claim your warranty. Mine was also hardSPL unlocked; and flashed with a custom rom several times....

regards, Rene
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mattdehat:
hi, ive an untouched kaiser.with rlod.i cant enter bootloader or even turn on phone.tried loads oways .no joy.so id like to buy working board or new advice on how to sort my paper weight.thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dieneverknowing:
Hey everyone,

Please be gentle if this have been covered, but I've searched this issue until my eyes started to hurt from reading so much (mainly from the 28 pg thread :p).

Here's a run down of my events. Please read if you have a minute to spare.

- Battery was dying so I started charging via usb.

- Turns out it wasn't charging and now the battery is dead and at which point the phone turned off

- Tried to power on the device while still connected via usb and the RLOD came on

- Left it connected to try and charge (hoping it would magically fix itself once the battery had enough juice)

- After an hour of charging, the amber led came on.

- Tried to turn on the phone and the led turned green them started to boot up. AT&T boot screen loaded and then the Radio/Rom numbers loaded as normal. But instead of going to the Windows Mobile screen, it turned off and the RLOD came back on.

- (*Roller coaster of emotions*)

- I left it plugged in to try and charge some more and the amber led came back on in about the same amount of time as it did before. Except this time I left it alone to charge further, but the RLOD came back on by itself within 20 minutes and has been on since.

So in anyones opinion, am I truly boned and all that start up jazz was just a glimpse of false hope? Or could this be a fixable problem?

I've tried just about all the battery tricks I could find except that of a using a different battery (no spare). I also found out that I'm 5 days out of the warranty period and AT&T said there's nothing they can do for me. So with no exchange in site and assuming the issue doesn't fix itself, could this be fixed by your typical cell phone repair shop? Or would I be better off trying to buy a Tilt with a broken screen and just swapping my screen for theirs?

I'm all ears seeing as how my phone doesn't work. :rolleyes: Thanks in advance for any advice.

::: UPDATE :::

I stopped by the AT&T store just to see what would happen if I put in another batter and what do ya know, it worked! So I guess perhaps in strange circumstances the RLOD can be a battery (as shown in other ways before). I just hope it was a bum battery and not a problem that will carry on *crosses fingers*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chaptop:
This also worked for me. I have not really been able to gauge how fast my battery drains on standby, but with continuous use for about every 10 minutes worth of use, 5% is used.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dieneverknowing:
New battery works...still having problems

I'm gonna cut to the chase again. For previous problem see my other post. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2220715&postcount=37

- Got a new battery from AT&T and the phone works like a champ again

- Can sync with active sync via usb with no problems

- When trying to charge, the phone will show as charging on the screen but will not physically charge

- Nothing appears to be bent or curved

So basically it seems the usb port works except for actually supplying power. Does this seem like it's just a problem with the port or perhaps something with the rest of the phone? It seems a few people suggest pocketpctechs(dot)com as a good repair place. But before I send it there, does anyone know of a reputable repair place on the east coast (preferably in Florida)? I can find some places out here but was curious if anyone had any actual experiences.

Thanks in advance for any help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pitermaikal:
For what it's worth...

Got RLOD on my Universal a few days ago.

I've spent as much time as I could spare reading all sorts of topics related to this kind of failure, including this one.

I've then tried the suggested methods described here and still no signs of life in that expensive "brick"...

I've opened it several times and searched for loose connections on the charging circuit (none detected to my knowledge), still without success.

Decided to leave it "grounded" on my desk for a couple of days, without the battery.

Had another go at it today.

I did not connect it to the charger. Instead, I pressed the power button and while pressing it, I've inserted the battery back. I then released the power button and the little devil just it powered up, as if nothing had ever happened!

I then put it to charge (got the amber light I missed so much back again :cool:) and was able to connect it to the PC via ActiveSync and even enter Bootloader.

However, the OS was unstable, to the point where it would reset itself occasionally (after a few seconds / minutes using it, it would shutdown). At the same time, I noticed that the backlight on the screen was unstable (it flickered even when connected to the charger).

During some of the reboots, I noticed "NO GSM" came up, instead of the Radio version, in the first splash screen. It would still load the OS though.

After a few minutes using it and trying to charge the battery, so that I could completely reflash it, the device completely shutdown and I've had the RLOD again.

I'll be leaving it plugged to the wall charger for a couple of hours now, because I had noticed before that although the red light is on, it still charges the battery (I've been doing this test with another battery, from another UNI).

My guess (and hope...) is that the battery has become damaged and no longer provides enough / stable power for it to operate properly.

I'm awaiting another battery (a new one), as I no longer can borrow the battery from the other UNI. And keeping my fingers crossed in the meantime... ;)

Will keep you posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pitermaikal:
Updated info

The UNI is now up and running again.

Same procedure was all it took: left it two days without the battery. Last night I pressed the power button and inserted the battery (still the old one, because I haven't received the new one yet) at the same time.

It booted normally.

The only malfunction I've spotted so far is the fact that the SIM card is not recognised anymore. The "Invalid or missing SIM card" warning comes up sistematically.

Today I tried another SIM card from a mate and it worked for a few minutes. I removed his SIM card and put mine back. It recognised it. I've inserted the PIN, which was accepted and it logged me the network. However, a few seconds later I got the same message complaining about an "Invalid or missing SIM card" again :mad:

I've tried swapping SIM cards again, but that no longer does the trick apparently. Reflashed with different ROMs and ran the SIM / CID Unlock tool again, but still no success.

The battery is obviously not working great, because every now and then when the phone is rebooted the status indicator initially displays "0%" charge and a few seconds later it updates the information to its current charge (

+

93%).

Perhaps using a new battery will help. Or maybe not... :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tom_martini:
I had the infamous RLoD and I got it fixed by tilting the battery. Thanks for the insight you are a life savior, you made my day!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] michi123:
That´s why it´s called the "Tilt".....:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] baps:
had the rlod a couple weeks ago, took my tilt to the AT&T store and they told me that many of the "early" tilts have had problems with the original battery (i bought mine in feb). he replaced the battery (under warranty) and everything worked like normal. my battery died again last night, but when i plug it in i get nothing. no lights at all, which leads me to think there is a problem with the usb port on the phone. so there seems to be two separate issues with the phone. hopefully the usb problem will also be covered under the warranty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hardik119:
Green light of lifeee

I kept the phone on charging last night today morning when I woke up it was RED light of death.

I followed the CPR procedure and bingoo!! green light of life!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bronco300:
read that other massive thread for these stupid red lights...i just got my tilt maybe a few weeks ago...and i had bought another package for the phone so i had a usb cord to sync it which came with an extra battery...well i got the red light on there...but switching out my batteries it went away...have no idea how, but it did....another thing i've had happening is, for instance, tonight talking to my wife on it and it'll go dead, and a steady red light will turn on while its plugged into the charger...i unplug the charger, and the phone turns back on(but of course flashes the dead sign once booted)...i'm pretty sick of the battery life these have...maybe i'm doing something wrong as i'm not technical smart, but it doesnt seem very helpful if i cant have a phone last more than 4 hours....anyways...if it happens again i'll pay more attention
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Erivelton:
No full success

Well, i tried all methods in this post, but, no success to fix RLoD. My battery started with tips of this site: http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/, but, not fix the problem, only permit charge the battery. I buy a second battery, but this don't solve the problem :(

In portuguese

Tentei todos os métodos expostos nesse post, contudo nenhum conseguiu fazer minha bateria carregar, somente com o as dicas do site acima é que obtive sucesso parcial, pois a bateria carregou, mas, tudo sempre volta a estaca zero, pois quando ligo o tilt e tento carregar normalmente, o sistema indica carga, mas a bateria não carrega. Comprei uma segunda bateria, mas isso não resolve o problema, é um paliativo. Tenho pensado seriamente em tentar fazer uma ponte direta entre o positivo e o negativo do conector usb aos conectores da bateria, (eu tenho feito isso usando 2 cabos usbs, sendo 1 cortado e conectado direto nos terminais da bateria) mas não sei dizer se fazendo isso direto na placa ira funcionar :P.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] blankito350:
mine works with pushing the battery out and in like 20 times... then i heard a puff sound.... and works fine right now... it will have like a week the phone working weird and no signal... but then it will work great...!! IM A REDLIGHT SURVIVOR!!!!!! Who0o0o0oho0o0o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Longrange Shooter:
I had put my Kaiser on my computer USB to charge it while I slept. Woke up the next morning to find it was buzzing me every minute. The boot screen was up and a red light was on. When I disconnected it turned off for good.

I swapped my SIM with my backup phone and that phone did not turn on. Whatever gave me a red light cooked my SIM. AT&T gladly replaced it.

I got a replacement battery and it is happily charging now.

No "giving my phone CPR" or pushing the OK button 5 times quickly while twirling in a circle, or any of the other juju you guys talk about. Replace the cooked stuff and it boots right up.

UPDATE:

I got my new battery charged and the machine works great. I put my old battery in (with no hardware installed) and it is happily charging as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] macdo:
I followed the suggested stpes and it came back to life again. The battery was at 1%, dunno why, it was the first time I left Wifi On during the night but without any software opened connected to internet.

I hope it stays normal as before, but I wasn't able to read successful stories :confused: :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vanisher:
Was anyone able to figure out why the radio isn't working properly after a recovery?

That's the boat I'm currently in. I managed to bring the phone back to life, but sans a radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zackv1:
Thank you Thank you

OmG I did what the first guy say to do and it my kaiser is alive now. it took about 20 bounce. thank you very much!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sharpe65:
i got the RLOD a few weeks ago out of nowhere.. did the battery trick about 30 times with the USB cable plugged in and the light turned from red to amber but like others have said the phone functionality of it didn't work anymore... i tried a lot of things but the one that finally worked was turning off 3G using the duttythroy_black_3g_comm_manager cab.. can't use 3G but everything else works perfectly fine now including GPS.. hope this helps someone out!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pavy:
My RLoD is fixed...kinda

I tried all the methods contained in this thread as well as many other threads. This is what worked for me.

I slightly bent up the 4 main battery contacts on the back of the phone and then I also bent up the two other contacts that sit on the bottom of the back of the phone. I put the battery in and I still had the red light. Then, while I had my Tilt plugged into a USB cord which was connected to my computer, I pushed on the battery while it was seated in the phone, all of a sudden a got an amber light and it started charging.

Since then I have been having three problems.

1. When rebooting the phone or turning the phone off and then back on, sometimes the phone will turn on but as soon as it gets completely started up, I get a low battery warning, and then the phone shuts down. To correct this, I take out the battery and bend up the two contacts (not the 4 main contacts) and then clean off the battery with sometimes (clean the metal-plated backside of the battery as well as the contacts on the battery). Then I re-seat the battery and try again, usually with success. If not, I do it again. So far I've been able to keep my phone working using this method.

2. The phone won't charge sometimes (using the good wall charger or USB connected to a computer). To correct this, I just unplug the power cord from the phone and carefully put it back in. I then just watch the battery charge to make sure it goes up at least 1% before walking away. This method has worked for me so far.

3. The phone will not come out of sleep with I hit the power button. This has happened twice so far. When this happens, I remove the battery, clean it, bend up the two contacts, put the battery back in and turn the phone on. So far this has worked for me.

I plan on posting my full RLoD story in this thread once I have more time: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=355232
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greencupbay:
It MIGHT be fixed! Mine's been working!

Well, this is my first post, but I think that it might help. I have had my phone for a year but this last month it messed up. Just tonight I found that it has this reputation. It use to start up and show the red light and then just shut off; other times it would work fine and tell me battery life was perfect, but then it would die. Thanks to xda, I did this:

With NO sim/memory card in,

1) Take the battery out and in and turn it on - repeat about 65-100 times (only takes a few secs)

(After this mine worked fine for a few mins. but shut off shortly after with the red light)

2) Next, follow these instructions- (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=372266&highlight=rlod)

3) After getting it running (or not) with the last step, in a jumbled manner take the battery in and out and press the power button for about 30 secs.

I am talking on the phone right now and hoping that it doesn't go bad any time soon. If it does, there is one last idea I have. With the phone laying on its back, wrap it in a towel and put a blow drier in with it (blow-driers nose in the towel and but out of the towel or the blow drier will overheat, also not too close to the phone) and let sit for a few minutes; when done, let it settle on its back after this for about 45 mins. The idea behind it is the 'towel trick' for the xbox 360 red ring of death is that it might get hot enough to loosen and re-bond any solder. People say don't do it for the 360 but it works (I did it), as I am sure that people will say it for the phone, but what else is there to do other than open it? Let others know if this will work as I will if/when I do it. Sorry for such a long post! Hope everyone can keep enjoying their Kaisers!

Ajax
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greencupbay:
Follow-up

This just in, my previous post didn't work, but I think I might be on to something else. It is running fine now. Tell you what it is later tomorrow or Monday!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] freekquency:
RLOD fixed using kickers method-

Held down power button while plugged in and just kept touching the pins to the battery over and over took maybe 15 tries. (sim + sdcard removed)

If this phone is ok-= well even if not- this community rocks.

:))

thanks.. im seeing radio problems listed as possibly problems now.. will update post if radios do not work.

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