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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
K5 is BL1? Just in case I want to go back to Nougat.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leos0000:
Yep.used all day oreo so cool perfect rom no bugs for me
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
Cool! Thanks mate.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
K5 is not BL1 but is nougat.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
Thanks mate. So if I want to stay on BL1 Oreo which Nougat should I start with? From reading

the posts on S8 forum, it looks like I need to start with AQGL and from there OTA to AQJC then to ZQKO.

What do you have on yours?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leos0000:
Where i can download update.zip for oreo beta 4 g950u?thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Searching xda is a good start ?

But here:

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74420590

Make sure you Flash the correct version! ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
If you want to stay on Bootloader 1, ZQKL is the newest you can go. If you use substratum I recommend ZQKH. Go to this website to grab the OTA you want:

https://samsung.firmware.science
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
Thanks for the info.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sniperess:
Will flashing Oreo trip knox?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
No
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
I flashed G950USQU2BQK5, went OK, after it reset went to recovery and apply the ZQKL update... I see the screen scrolling updating system etc.

Then it seem to finish w/o problem then screen went blank, I thought it was going to reboot. But it didn't waited for a few more minutes then I tried

to turn it on... it would not turn on. Did just brink my phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
As long as you can Boot into:

a) Download Mode.

b) Recovery.

Then No you have not bricked your phone - If you can't Boot into either... Maybe?

?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
Tried it mate. Bixby - VolUp - Power and Bixby -VolDown - Power doesn't revive the phone.

I guess I'm SOL :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Did you Press and Hold all three buttons for at least a minute before you gave up? Normally it shouldn't take as long as a minute - But desperate times... Give it another try - Good luck ? ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
I did hold all three buttons longer than normal but not 1 minute.... I'll try. Thanks

UPDATE: held all three buttons for more than a minute, it would turn on.

Plugging the phone charger, I get no battery charging indicator on the screen.

So long S8, I barely knew you.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aloknm:
Go to samsung, tell them you got an update notification and when it updated, this happened. It might work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
It's my phone work so we deal with a local Bell distributor. I gave it back to them for repair.

In the meant time I got a Galaxy Alpha as a loaner. You know a good custom ROM for it? Lol :p
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kulwinder Singh:
hello everyone,i am coming to canada this january for my studies.i have the international exynos version of galaxy s8.so i wanted to know would it work in canada with all the carriers?thank you
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leos0000:
If unlocked.sure gonna work
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Firegrill:
What are the differences between ZQKL and ZQKH?

And are you currently still on ZQKH or is there a newer better one available?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] geokilla:
Tempted to get the SGS8 for around $400. But no root or custom ROMs is soooo annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
Where you getting that price?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aloknm:
Get the exynos version. Also SD has root.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hkechung:
Am i able to flash Hong Kong firmware to canada S8+ ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
I doubt it ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] geokilla:
Wow Mobile.

Yeah but it's only 80% battery life, not 100%. Not an ideal way to root.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
They still have that deal going? Thought it was a black friday thing only?

A friend got 2 g6's for like $250 each, smoking deal.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] geokilla:
Yep deal came back over the weekend. Let's see what Boxing Day brings.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
If you want a brick.

Main problem with this one is it WILL actually let you flash it, unlike the Exynos one, but then your device will never turn back on
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hkechung:
Can I just flash the csc to make the Samsung pay work in Hong Kong ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Yeah the csc doesn't modify your hardware at all so I'd say it would be fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
I don't know about other Canadian carriers but I'm on bell and Oreo update is now available. Go to setup and manually check for software update.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Yeah it was actually announced in a couple of other places on xda as well as on Samsung Members & Sammobile a few days ago - All the Canadian Carriers pushed the Oreo 8.0 Update for the S8/S8+ this morning.. Even Freedom & Koodo ?

If you're using Substratum don't forget to uninstall all the Overlays ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
I actually wanted to try Substratum but when I installed it and started to use it , it wanted me to install another app, a non-free app.

I forgot what it was.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Yes you need to get Andromeda from the Play Store - it's only a couple of dollars but well worth it!

Setup is initially a bit different in that you connect to your computer to load the Substratum Themes.

It's definitely more polished than the SungStratum version imo - You do have to run the installation twice - Once to Build the Themes and the second time to enable the Theme ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] m3tatr0n84:
Thanks mate, I might try it out one day. I'll keep Andromeda in mind.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] golfinggino:
battery on orea is still as bad as before- selling my s8+ and going to put my main sim in my lg v30 - 4 hours of sot just doesn't cut it and the lg v30 is way better with my expensive headphones
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Factory Reset your S8+ and you'll see the battery life improve dramatically ??

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mechanicalbmx:
Hello all!

My LG G3 recently died on me so I picked up an S8 G950W. I have been doing some reading and it seems that this phone is unrootable / bootloader not unlockable meaning no custom roms. This would be a deal breaker for me. Hoping somebody can confirm or refute this as I still have some time to return the phone.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
You can Root it - but the Bootloader is still locked - So no Custom Roms - Search for Samfail. It's definitely not what you think of when you think of a Rooted device ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mechanicalbmx:
Do you see this being a long term issue, or will it be resolved one day?

So far I really like the phone. If I can root it and debloat then custom roms may not be so important.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
The Bootloader is likely to be locked FOREVER - There's some options for debloating (I'm using BK Manager) and there's a couple of threads on a different method to debloat - There is a Root option as I mentioned - but it's not Root as you would normally think of - Search the S8+ Threads ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mechanicalbmx:
Could you summarize the key differences with root on the S8?

Inability to flash custom roms would mean that the device is dead in the water after Samsung stops rolling out updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Have a look at this Thread ?

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74806764
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mechanicalbmx:
Thanks for that. Seems like there's quite a lot of compromise with respect to rooting this device. Its a shame because it goes against my premise for using Android over Apple.

I can return the phone still, but the alternatives are either the Pixel 2, Essential Phone, or LG G6. None of these are good choices over the GS8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
Return it and get the exynos s8.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
That's certainly an option - But there's a few things to consider - Warranty - I'm not sure if all the Carrier Services will work as expected with the International version - Upfront Costs - If you always buy the phone outright it's not a big deal - But you won't get any Carrier subsidy for the Exynos version - On the upside - Full Root is available ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mechanicalbmx:
I suspect the Exynos S8 would cost me on the order of 600 - 800 now. I got my G950W for $400. The $200 increment is not worth it to me. The other listed phones can be had for the same price.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
After a Factory Reset my S8+ Oreo 8.0

The battery is pretty much the same as when running Nougat ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] distho:
I have a 950U1 (USA/XAA) and even if I run Telus Oreo (which I am now) I can only get Clearvoice/HDVoice to work. No VOLTE etc. I've been told because they don't have the IMEI in their database.

(Siderant: I find this bad practice because if a company tells you that BYOD is OK, then why do we not get the services we pay for.)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] partcyborg:
What compromise? Please don't let say something about the battery limit, it's not a compromise at all. See for yourself:

That being said a phone with an unlocked bootloader is a whole different ball game. It's going to give you a lot more options no question about that. I personally wouldn't take a bl locked v30 over a bl locked s8 through, but to reach their own. :good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Agar117:
Anyone try the samfail/sampwnd root? I'm not too keen on having 80% battery. Kinda just waiting to see if the bootloader ever gets unlocked. Should I keep waiting or just go for it?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
If you look at [MENTION=8360749]partcyborg[/MENTION]'s post about the battery life (just above on this page) - you shouldn't be concerned about the battery life ?

As for the Bootloader getting Unlocked.... Yeah extremely doubtful.. Extremely! ??
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] partcyborg:
I love sharing this screenshot....

[MENTION=7593142]Agar117[/MENTION] even with 80% partcyborgrom is superior in all dimensions battery wise to stock. The reason this is so is due to a few things. One is that PCR is heavily debloated with over 100 packages removed from the base system, most of which are either useless crap you didn't even know was there, some of it is worse and is designed to run in the background and spy on you to gather intrusive marketing data on you device habits, or to send you ads, or to watch for you rooting your phone. All of this takes battery and slows your device down. As a result PCR is much faster too. Another reason is that with root and xposed you can run special software to limit any problematic apps background use, by shutting off services you don't want or need, or limiting their ability to wake up the phone from sleeping when you aren't using it, making idle time use almost no battery ive seen as low as 0.8%/hr with only minor adjustments in things like sync (less often) and eliminating ads services.

If you are skeptical of any of this i wouldn't blame you. So here is proof:

I continue to ask for someone to post screenshots of even equal SOT (screen on time) running stock, but if you believe the hype and the 80% is so awful then it really should be 25% larger*, right? Right? ?️

If you can get significantly better than 11h of screen on usage with stock, but all means don't switch. But if not, remember that root doesn't just take battery life away, you gain an immeasurably large amount of additional features and customization options. I personally would still root even if i did lose 20% of my effective battery capacity, as things like making my device sound as good as my $300 dac/amp using only the device hardware is worth it. With a gain in device use time, i dont personally see why anyone wouldnt root ️

* Yes, its 25% not 20%. 100 is 25% more than 80, do the math.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Agar117:
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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] WuNgUn:
So is it true... All Canadian variant S8+ are snap dragon?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaggyskunk:
Yup - US version as well Snapdragon... Blah ?

Samsung S7 was the last Samsung Galaxy Device in Canada with an Unlocked Bootloader & it's Exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] WuNgUn:
Damn... I guess I'll just hang on to my S7E a little longer :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Techvir:
Back to topic..

Is anyone worried about not getting exynos version ?

I want to root but with snapdragon it may be a big issue
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sword Fish:
You can root snapdragon if the bootloader isnt locked. My AT&T S7 Edge was snapdragon and I had no issue with performance. I havent rooted since S5, didnt really see a need anymore. That and I want to use Samsung Pay.

Swordfish
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 54wenzhao:
I want the Exynos version. More roms and better optimization from Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Techvir:
I reserved through rogers reservation website for business. It is showing a price of 625$ for S8 plus. Anyone else getting lower prices ?

Reserved an unlock through Samsung store is around 1300 inclusive of all taxes
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
I pre-ordered as a regular customer and not a business customer, but it was $319 CAD for the S8+ for me. If I wasn't willing to switch my plan, it would have been $559, but the new plan was only $5 more per month for the same stuff I already had, so I went with it. Cheaper in the long run.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ronii_lyn:
I pre-ordered the S8 in Orchid Grey online with Telus for a total of $514.50. My contract doesn't end until September so I had $104 still on my Note 5's device balance, but when I checked out it says I now only have to pay $52 which I'm quite happy about haha. I'm excited to experience the Gear VR as well! I saw the phones at the WEM Samsung store yesterday and I was surprised how small the S8 was! With the S8+, it's a bit skinnier but a bit taller than the Note 5. I honestly thought it would be bigger.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
I'm really happy about the sizes too. When I got my S8+ case in the mail and lined it up with my S7 edge and Note7 cases, I was pretty surprised at how small it was. Originally I was having trouble deciding which to get as I don't like my phones to be too big, but the S8+ comes in at the same width as the Note7 (which I love) and is a bit taller. I have no problem with that.

I haven't had my hands on a regular S8 (or an S8 case) but with how nice the S8+ feels, I think the S8 would be too small for my liking.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] The G Dept.:
Someone mentionned in another thread that Costco had a pre-order deal that includes free Gear VR with controller AND the Level U Pro wireless earbuds. I just called my local Costco and they don't have such promotion. Only the Gear VR with controller.

I would have cancelled my order with Samsung and pre-ordered with Costco instead.

If anyone is aware of different pre-order deals for Canadians other than the free Gear VR+controller, please post it here.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] REEFERKIEF:
I have talked to samsung ca and have confirmed that the unlocked SM-G950-W (S8) or SM-G955-W(S8+) are snapdragons, so lower performance on benchmarks at least. And as always i would expect worse battery life. I will be ordering the Exynos version SM-950F ( S8 ) or SM-955F( S8+ ) from the UK using unlocked-mobiles or clove, both are willing to activate the phones to get rid of the region lock.

The S8 including shipping from the UK to Canada is $969 + tax/duty.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
No warranty(unless you ship back to the uk i guess)gearvr if you order from the uk. The sd 835 and exynos are pretty close in geekbench, both are scoring around 2k in st and low/mid 6k's in mt. Qualcomm ditched its custom cores and went with a traditional big.little arm soc this time around, which is pretty much what the exynos 8895 is, the sd820 had 4 big cores which is probably why its battery life suffered, the 835 has small and big cores so it should do better.

I tried out the s8 at bestbuy today and it was buttery smooth, couldn't tell which one it was but others mentioned the g950xu is a snapdragon. The screen was just amazing, can't believe samsung pulled it off. The edges were nicely done, if you close your eyes you can't tell which is the front or back, it feels identical.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aloknm:
By unlocked you mean bootloader or sim?

I want to pre-order the s8 but no root/rom is a killer for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Drunkadf:
Anyone know if the pre-order version from Samsung's website, the Sm-G950W version will be bootloader locked or unlocked?

W stand for worldwide?

I might go with the UK version if it's locked, anyone know if we have to pay Duty if it's shipped from Clove?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sakohunter:
Most likely bootloader locked. I went with UK one as well but just so u know, they have region lock on the EU/UK versions. But it is software lock as long as u don't reflash a UK/EU firmware after a clean wipe after it has been unlocked you are good. You could how ever flash a ROM for the same device from a different region and not have it lock because the lock is in the EU/UK firmware.

Here is an email I received while I inquired about it when I ordered mine.

"Hello

There is no unlock code. The region lock is different to a network/SIM lock. Only network/SIM locks can be undone with a code.

The region lock was introduced by Samsung a few years ago as a protectionist measure to try and stop the sale of stock outside of their specified sales regions. It can only be undone by inserting a SIM from one of the expected regions and completing a continuous 5 minutes of voice (not data) call.

Once the phone is unlocked, this will persist through a factory reset initiated on the phone or OTA updates.

As far as I am aware, if you completely wipe the phone and flash a new ROM, the lock will return *IF* that ROM file includes the information for the lock.

Custom ROMs are unlikely to have this code included, however official Samsung builds will. So if you flash a custom ROM, then flash the official UK/European firmware back onto the phone, the lock will likely return. You could of

This is advanced use of the device and having never personally performed a custom ROM flash on a Samsung device, this is all the detail I can provide at this time.

I suspect you will be able to find out much more detailed information from users who have tried these procedures in the past. I would suggest seeking answers on a suitable forum such as XDA developers.

Also please be aware that flashing custom ROMs to the phone would invalidate the manufacturer warranty "
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Techvir:
Ofcourse sim unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] AwaKeN:
Does anyone know when bell will ship the phones ? I ordered through the Bell website and received a email with a order number that's it ...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] adsam3927:
Telus and Koodo have said they will start shipping on April 17th..earlier than official 21st date...maybe other carriers will follow suit.

I want to know if the DeX is up for preorder yet...will be heading to Sherway Samsung store soon to find out .. Orchid 8+ preordered already...they also said same about 17th
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nicholaschum:
I'm considering this purchase of an S8+ but if development comes down to only being on the Exynos variant being "unlockable" in terms of bootloader and system tweaks, then Clove.

But there are places such as Rogers that gets it in stock by the 12th, and the latest being 17th.

Wireless Wave in Eaton Center (TO) will also have it in stock by the 17th.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] KWoods41:
Where are you hearing that Rogers will have it in stock by the 12th? I haven't seen that anywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] adsam3927:
Ditto

Earliest date I know of is 17th and that will be pickup day at Samsung Experience Stores for those that have preordered

Can't wait [emoji41]
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nicholaschum:
Go to the store directly. You can ask the peeps there. It was more of a way for them to push me to buying it but by now that preorder wave is gone (I asked about a week and a half ago)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] AwaKeN:
I'm i the only one that pre-order the phone online ? I don't see my order on mybell.bell.ca and when I call them they say that my order is ok ... Someone on Reddit told me that he have a status page of is order on mybell.bell.ca ...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Techvir:
There is a thread in rogers community where they are talking about pre-orders. Mostly about rogers but have seen some users mentioning stuff about bell too... You may get some answers there.

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/44429
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] AwaKeN:
ok thanks !
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] boomfunk:
Received this an hour ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] adsam3927:
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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] The G Dept.:
You have THREE days to pick it up? What happens if for some reason you can't pick it up and you can only go a week later?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
An expert on the Rogers Community Forum said that you can call the store manager and it's up to them whether or not they will hold it longer for you. The policy is to only hold it for three days and to release it for walk-in sales after that, but store managers can make exceptions.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
For the first time ever I can honestly say I wish I was on rogers...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] achatha84:
Anyone order from Telus online?

My order says will be delivered as early as April 17.

With Friday being an holiday should start shipping by tomorrow i'm guessing.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] boumboqc:
Pre-Ordered on Robbers Wireless.

Can't wait !
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] neotekz:
Got a call today from Fido that my S8 is in stock but i can't pick it up until the 17th.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] boomfunk:
Just received the same call from Rogers. Cannot be picked up till the 17th but it is in stock. =)