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[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Here are my 2 cents as per @DoubleStuff recommendations:

The Tablet that is rebooting is using PhotoCloud Slideshow with Google Play services. I am not familiar with the App, but here is information from the web:

https://www.android-photo-frame.eu/

https://github.com/mvysny/photocloud-frame-slideshow

https://apkpure.net/photocloud-frame-slideshow/sk.baka.photoframe/download

The free version does not require Google services.View attachment 6060063

I do not know how the App works, in getting the images but keep this in mind:

The Tablet has only 1GB or RAM, the native screen resolution is 1024 x768. It can be used to display pictures but within the Tablet's limitations. It only takes one picture of very high resolution to use all the Memory of the tablet and will freeze or reboot.

Suggestion:

1.Check the resolution of the images.

2.If you are using the free version then, only flash the ROM and install the App.

3. If using the Pay version and needs to use google services then:

Boot into TWRP Recovery --- touch ( WIPE ) right top corner --- ( Advance Wipe )

Select Partitions to Wipe

Dalvik /Art Cache

Cache

Only ( the first 2 )

Swipe to Wipe

Reboot
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Thanks @HP_TOUCHPAD for the APK link I was able to install PhotoCloud on my touchpad ( w/Lollipop CM11 )

But I don't know how to use it, so I just opened the app, and did a memory test, and so far the touchpad was nowhere near close to the critical 40 MB's for a crash/reboot. It still had around 200 MB of free RAM, and it was using virtually no SWAP as you see the 1 GB is still mostly free. But of course if @Twinfan instructs us on how to use it I can do a better memory test, and maybe get a crash, but I doubt it on very stable Lollipop CM11. See attachment.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The App connects to Cloud Storage services and stream pictures. To test the memory usage, the App must display some pictures.

The process of data and memory works on all computing devices. A 10 megabyte image file will require more memory than a 1 megabyte. The Tablet was working fine for the past 3 years, but now is rebooting with quickstep errors.

Look at the following link for a possible solution.

https://forum.fairphone.com/t/quick...ps-and-prevents-me-from-using-my-phone/101605

This could help: Find Quickstep and clear the cache
[TouchPad General] Twinfan:
I use the paid version of PhotoCloud Slideshow and connect to a Google Photos album. I'd be surprised if any one image was very large.

As mentioned in an earlier post my knowledge of these inner workings is very limited. Would I be able to do this with the existing ROM (Evervolv v9 Android PIE) in place?

Thanks both for your help with this.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
One step at a time, try to clear Quickstep cache inside Android 9, that is the simplest and quick way.

Here is a video that shows how to do it:

Give that a try, if it does not solve the problem then do the next solution.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
OK, I now put a bunch of images in a folder ( screenshots ) and did a slideshow, these photos are pics I have attached in the past to XDA, most of them are between 1.5 and 2.0 MB, and I will attach the memory usage...I still have about 100MB of free RAM ( once it gets to 40MB that is the critical level ).

I will either try to find, or create pictures that are closer to 10 MB, and see what happens...
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
If you want to replicate the usage, then install Open Google Apps and the free version of the App.

Load the pictures into Google Drive and make the app to use it from there. Keep in mind, the Tablet is going to be using the Google services and be connected to the Wi-Fi. There is a huge difference, reading photos locally than streaming.

Use only images, no audio or videos.

You can use this website to build the picture album and can download the files in different resolution.

https://pixabay.com/

Have FUN !
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Well there goes all my fun, I have pictures from vacations and such stored on google photos so I could try to build a nice slideshow from that.....but in taking advice from others I have not been loading Google Play Store when installing android on these tablets, because all the apps have to report back to "mother google" too much. So I have been just loading the APK files

from my PC. And "mother google" don't like that, because she won't allow me to use my google photos with PhotoCloud

slideshow - without installing Google Play Store....LOL
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
It is better to install Apps without Google Play Store, but in this case the user is using a pay App.

The Play Store services collects all the user data and that is how Google makes the trillions.

If you want to have extra-fun you can install your own Cloud drive:

https://nextcloud.com/

* I will not be able to reply to any messages from a week starting tomorrow.
[TouchPad General] Twinfan:
I used the above-linked video to clear the Quickstep cache on both my TouchPads. The one running PhotoCloud is running fine for now. The other, with the weather widget, I rebooted and got the blank screen that eventually returns the dialog box saying Quickstep is not responding. If I wait for the box and tell it to close Quickstep it finishes rebooting. I'll keep an eye on these and see how stable they are.
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
All videos now have a little CC button that will turn on subtitles/close captions, they're not perfectly accurate but can be helpful with tutorials. I have a fully written out guide in my tag below but the steps are a little different.

Problem:

Help I'm missing Super User/Root Access

The solution:

To enable super user Download and flash this SuperSU zip here.

Note: You will need to reflash this zip each time you update your rom.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Sorry, alot of us don't understand what its like to be deaf, I dated a "pretty deaf girl" when I was younger, but she also wore hearing aids, and that helped alot, and she became deaf at 5 years old so she could talk pretty good. In fact I did not know she was deaf until I kissed her on maybe the 3rd date, and I heard squeaky "feedback" from her hearing aids which were covered up by her hair!!

The good news is alot of these videos are visually oriented, so you might want to give it a try. But I respect you for coming this far in learning the HP Touchpad, your having fun and thats what counts! :highfive:
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
I used to wear vthem, the feedack was so anoying!. gonna hgavevto use desktpp to watch them

Im fairly good at this, but to learn still. Thank you forvyoiur help..
[TouchPad General] shumash:
You might try this
[TouchPad General] Dellboy17:
Hi Doublestuff

Thanks for the really detailed instructions, very easy to follow.

I've been doing TP upgrades for several years now but Nougat is the first one that I've really experienced continued problems.

I'm on my 3rd way of installing Nougat now & whilst this version is slightly better than before it's still very slow & unresponsive. I took a lot of care to get the memory sizing right (I've gone on the large size as I gave 32gb TP and use very little of the data).

Watching the video I've covered every step in detail aside from loading a previous set of data which I don't have, I've also used the latest nightly from 25th June.

I'm beginning to think I'll never get it working again and don't want to gave to go back to kitkat as that had its own peculiar problems (such as not working with Chrome or Firefox), any suggestions please?
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Your not the first person to experience lag on the Nougat install, and its not that you did anything wrong. Some people believe that this Nougat ROM is finally out pacing the old HP Touchpad hardware. In fact one of the more famous posters on these forums called Nevertells2 posted a classic expos'e on another forum how he is ditching Nougat for KitKat also, and at first others such as Lippy fought back asking him to try different settings and such, but I think Nevertells2, after giving it one more "college try", is sticking to his theory that the Nougat software is finally outpacing the 6 year old HP Touchpad hardware.

I don't want to say too much because its possible the verdict is still out, because the ROM is still being worked on, and a solid developer named Shumash has created a custom kernel to "overclock" the Touchpad for speed, also some theorys about why there is lag such as "throughput bottlnecks" on wifi. So maybe the Devs will iron out the lag eventually, but its a work in progress, and KitKat is stable and ready to go, but its not the cutting edge of the latest and greatest....
[TouchPad General] Dellboy17:
That's good to hear!

Sine my last post I've tried another Nougat install but only loaded chrome to see how it got on, same result unfortunately so I think I'll probably revert back to kitkat 4.4.4 and see if I can get that to work with chrome as that was the only drawback to kitkat.

Thanks again!
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Who's version of KitKat are you using? I don't have any problems with Chome on Sullin's last build of KK.

NT
[TouchPad General] Dellboy17:
I'm back on KitKat now, the JC sullins version and it's all ok now thanks. Must have done something wrong last time!
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Hello NT, I noticed on devs-base you asked the above questions to the devs, I will be interested in their answers too. For a couples reasons, seems like the same ole people are posting on that thread, like lippy, stump, globalTraveler, dmzumwalt, BGrosse and new people will pop in and out...Another good question is how many people gave up on the 7.1 ROM because of frustration and lag. Also seems like Shumash has copied his SKZ Custom Kernel thread from XDA too. I am currently on vacation, but I am hearing the latest 7.1 ROM is really fast, I have not installed it yet, but as Lippy says ( for about every updated ROM ) schwing.....

If the devs give you your answers, how do you plan on analyzing the data? Whats your goal to know these answers?

Not sure if you noticed but if you look at the OP on this thread it gives a count on how many times the doubleStuff.zip has been downloaded since we posted the instructions, and currently its 786, and on devs-base its been downloaded 50 times.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Hey DS,

Never noticed those download counts before. Unfortunately, there is nothing like that for the OP downloads. They just send you to the website and that does not show any download count. I did notice that the Nougat thread has had a respectable 74000+ views. Their XDA Nougat thread has had 222,000+ views before they abandoned it. I'll let you know if they respond, will probably have to ask several times to get a response.

NT
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Well, I finally got a reply after a second request. Elgin said:

"Only info i have is views, i should look into a download counter for the site, or some sort of stat counter. Would like to know how upto date users are keeping their devices"

NT
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Yes I saw your reply to Elgin, I had to laugh a bit on your comment on who has half the posts, and "the five regular posters".

I see that Elgin said earlier that Nougat might get derailed by the start of "O" soon. Thats how Evervolv ended Marshmallow too, it was starting to get good, then they went off to Nougat. Well we are having fun and thats what counts, and I am sure they like the technical challenges of moving on.

But your the voice in the wilderness warning people that this 6 year old device maybe is on its last leg, especially trying to get newer, and newer software to work, but Lippy don't like to hear that.

I have to say the last 7-9 ROM is giving 2 of my tablets fits, freezes, and reboots. I am glad I have stable 4.4.4 MLQ on the other.
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
Don't listen to that naysayer Nevertells, he's been saying our Touchpads are on their last legs since Jelly Bean came out:laugh: I myself have doubted if we'd see newer versions several times now but if Flintman and Elgin are willing to put in the time I'm certain they'll make it happen. I'm with Lippy go go gadget TouchPad, never too old for a software update:cowboy:

I've also had freezing with the latest 7-9 Evervolv rom and went back to a previous build. Checkout Milaqs Lineage11, now with totally working WiFi. Running great so far on my main tablet. All things considered Evervolv 7.1.2 runs incredibly well once you use Shumash's Kernel and tweaks. It always happens, a new build is released right as the older one is reaching perfection... probably why Android 4.4.4 has been so revered.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
I know your just kidding about Nevertells2, I trust both you and Nevertells2 for good information I guess we all look at the water glass differently, some half full, some half empty. Its good to have different viewpoints on these boards.

Yes I might try Lineage11 with one of my Nougat tablets to see how it works, because as of late the WiFi on my Nougat builds has been in and out, it used to be strong. I think because Elgin has been tweaking the WiFi drivers to fix the lag and looks like there has been some regression in WiFi, but I just installed the 7/15 build, so like Lippy I am always updating and hoping for the best.

An interesting observation, I have not seen Flintman commenting on any boards the last few months, maybe he is taking a break like JC Sullins.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Hey Slacker!!!!! :cyclops:
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
Just joking around of course, me and NT have had many conversations about what we thought would be the end of the tablet. Originally the ACMEInstaller had limited the size of the system partition and we struggled to reduce space on the tablet. imark90 came along with a updated version and saved the day. Then the big move to data media builds was a difficult transition saved by Jcsullins TPtoolbox. You're familiar with the current state of things and provided your own excellent work around to solve the TWRP installation issue.:good:

Sure hope Flintman is not taking a JCsullins break as he has not returned and basically stated that he wouldn't share his work here anymore :( Hopefully Flintman is just not dealing with the tedium of the forum threads, it can get quite tiring trying to deal with each and every user comment. As NT pointed out this slacker :cyclops: hasn't been doing a good job of that either. 90% of the time the problem is user error or failure to read the instructions, I can't even look at the YouTube comments or msgs anymore. :eek:

All I need to know is written up right here in the Evervolv commits. As you can see both Flintman and the Elginsk8r have been hard at work making development magic happen and I thank them:highfive: We have all the tools we'll need to manage the tablets partitions but talented developers are few and far between. We're just lucky to have a few incredible ones left with us.

Edit: Lucky post # 777
[TouchPad General] capnpat:
Well done.

Very good job! Thank you for all your hard work and effort. I really enjoy this old HP tablet and thanks to you, it really rocks now.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Yes thats what I have been hearing too, that the latest Nougat ROM ( ev_tenderloin-7.1.2-nightly-2017.11.03.zip )

really rocks.

In fact Lippy actually asked Nevertells2 to give it another try, because he knows Nevertells2 really likes his KitKat4.4.4.

Actually Android Oreo on the HP Touchpad is in its beta version right now, but maybe in a few months it will be

rocking like Nougat. You could still use the instructions in the OP to install any version of Android, as long as you have the 3 ZIPs ( ROM, GAPPS and Recovery ) of the "said" Android version.
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Well all went well, gonna run this and BIG shout out to Double Stuff and Nevertells!! thank you guy's!
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Here we go.. giving this a run

I want to thank everyone that contributed to the making of this ROM many thanks to Roland and Doublestuff for your time and work on this. I have installed it, but yet to go give it a whirl.. well this was written while I was waiting on EVERVOL to complete, I can't find my other post on this, sorry.. okay when I run webos and then the WRP_TmpLoad_v03_win.bat the window that pops up for TP has only sd card .. I have installed it on there twice and it Unable to mount storage on another line it reads unable to mount media/data/ TWERP.. after it installs all files it reads Failed to mount "/data" (invalid argument..
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Quick question, why am I getting a Failed to load Data invalid argument? ealier in install after running steps in the twrp it said failed to load media,
[TouchPad General] kyzerdroid:
this works very smooth, resetting the touchpad with the tptoolbox and setting volume sizes and installing oreo 8+ using doublestuff nice one and thanks a lot
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
AOSP failure

Hi, guys.. anyone else had a keyboard failure when Installing this ROM? i tried to variate it and use PICO 8.1 same error.. any Ideas?
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
this is really a smooth ROM. I have had it 2 days, no crash! I can't begin to thank everyone involved in this and the help that several of you have gave me through the years.. I can't wait till the finished Dev is out , it's sure to be a awesome ROM!
[TouchPad General] ZeroZorro:
Hi there... install DU 8.1 working well, first boot okay, wifi-connected, system looking for updates and then: black screen.....

Had that before and took me weeks to bring it back alive. So when connecting to PC it's recognised (usb connection sound) but no screen activity.

I know the HOME-button is not working as indicated in the OP, but how to wake up device when into sleep?

Thanks!
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Black Screen Freeze was a bug in early versions of 8.1, but has since disappeared....Did you try the two finger salute? Pressing Power and Home button for 30 seconds....

Also even though ROM 8.1 does not have "home button" wake, you can tweak it to have "volume button" wake.....buy going into:

Settings-Dirty Tweaks-Navigation-Buttons-Volume Wake "ON"

see pic below.

Also one of Nevertells2 favorite features in KitKat was the double tap to sleep, and this seems to be revived on ROM 8.1, but its not quite the same. Once you are in lock screen you can double tap to sleep, but in KitKat you did not have to be on lockscreen. Just Double Tap the top section of the screen. I agree with Nevertells2 it was a good feature because you dont wear out the power button.

Settings-Dirty Tweaks-Lockscreen-Lockscreen Items-Double tap to sleep on lockscreen to ON.

See pic below.
[TouchPad General] ZeroZorro:
Well...thanks...my home-work for the weekend ;)

I will report back...!

'2 fingers salute' didn't work, a second time i kept it connected to my pc so i could 'hear' what was going on. After approx 13 seconds first USB-off/USB-on sounds and after 25 seconds it repeated. So 'restarting' seems to work, but still no screen.

As earlier stated i have this problem more often and i just try to boot every now and then untill, somehow, on some point, it will come alive again. But that takes sometimes weeks before it works...wish i knew what was going on so maybe fix it also.... #tobecontinued
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Glad you got it to work Deafasheck, I was worried about you a few weeks ago because you were talking on different threads about taking apart your HP Touchpad, and either replacing the battery or unbricking it....How did that go?
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Yeah I am going to tear into two of them once I get the toolkit.. I still have the link Nevertell sent me on disassembling them. I'm just rather reluctant... I been toying with the 8.0 got it on now, but swithching back to JC's 4.4.4 it just runs smoother, 7.1 and 8.0 lose wifi and run sluggish even getting a littl Black square box on screen.. never seen that before plus freezes up. like my buddy said, this is for Dev and the likes not a training ground.. but I've ;earned tons.. just not all!! thanks to everyone for their help input, etc.. XDA Rules!
[TouchPad General] moshedanger:
Split Screen

Quick question, I noticed that only 7.0 seemed to have split screen and then the feature was removed. Is this feature in 8.1 or 7.1? Thanks!
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
I noticed the same thing, I used to always have 2 screens up in Nougat 7.0 Touchpad, one on YouTube to listen to a book, and another screen while reading the same book as I listened to it....but your right starting in Nougat 7.1 and now 8.1 I can't find the split screen function. But on my LG Phone which has Nougat I do have split screen, so I think its just an HP Touchpad thing. I have checked all over, from developer options to System UI but to no avail.....maybe other will chime in with opinions.
[TouchPad General] NE0HP:
There is an option there in Oreo 8.1 rom I'm using on my other device running Oreo 8.1. To use that feature you just need to hold on one of your back ground app on app switcher and you'll get an option right on top for split screen. I've not updated my HPTP yet to 8.1 but I hope this way you might use split screen feature on HPTP running 8.1
[TouchPad General] shumash:
Doesn't work on this rom. Not implemented.
[TouchPad General] gefin:
tptoolbox

Just finished installing Android on two HP Touchpads using you're amazing toolbox. Thank you

for a great tool.
[TouchPad General] klockk:
Sort of off-topic, but I just installed EV 8.1 Daily (Latest), and so far looks great! But Sling, Hulu, PBS Kids all do not work... video playback issues.... Which ROM Rev allows these to work nicely?
[TouchPad General] klockk:
Went back to latest Nougat Build and things seem to work.... and I think I found a Netflix hack that will allow me to install Netflix..

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/development/release-widevine-rom-update-android-7-t3582683

EV 7.1 I believe already had the Widevine stuff baked in.. Just Netflix doesn't show up in the PlayStore :p
[TouchPad General] quass:
Any advise how to run a temp twrp ona a mac?
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
It looks like to run it on a MAC you would need the program TWRP_TmpLoad_v03_win.bat written and tweaked in the MAC language which looks like UNIX Borne Shell. I don't have UNIX, LINUX or MAC to test this on, so I can't guarantee results, but if you can test maybe it will work. I will upload program.

P.S. once you download the program TWRP_TmpLoad_v01_mac.command.txt, you will have to take the .txt off the end, so it looks like this TWRP_TmpLoad_v01_mac.command
[TouchPad General] quass:
Thank you very much
[TouchPad General] larrywilson:
I managed to install without apparent video flaws but I'm playing

Resize Android Volumes

Volume resizing for:

--Media: 1000 MB,

--Cache: 400 MB,

--System: 2312 MB,

--Data: the rest of the memory.

With this change or 2048 in system there is no apparent problem in the video on you tube

---------- Post added at 02:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:55 AM ----------

logre instalar sin aparentes fallas de video pero me toco

Redimensionar Android Volúmenes

Volúmenes cambio de tamaño para:

--Media: 1000 MB ,

--Cache: 400 MB ,

--Sistema: 2312 MB ,

--Data: el resto de la memoria .

Con esta cambio o 2048 en sistema no hay aparente problema en el video en you tube
[TouchPad General] iamrico00:
Help please

I already had twrp and android pacman kit kat on my touchpad

I updated to the latest twrp 3.1 and works fine

I am trying to update the tenderloin 7.1 but when I try it tells me "error 7"

any thoughts?

Thanks

Rico
[TouchPad General] Epanosian:
TWRP_TmpLoad_v03

Finally found free (one hour) time and installed Android 8.1 on one HPTP using you're amazing toolbox. Thank you for the great tool...

EPA
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
You can't update from KitKat to 7.1 or 8.0. It has to be a clean install. Follow Doublestuff's instructions if you want to starting 7.1.

NT