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[LG G6 Questions and Answers] alexsoin:
I'm wondering how quickly US carriers' branded S8/S8+ (w locked bootloader) will get root? As w/o root these ridiculously tall phones are absolutely impossible to use with one hand, just try to pull down notifications :))) LOL

Unlike LG phones (and I had a bunch, G3-2-4, V20) Sammy didn't give a choice for editing navigation on-screen buttons! So all you have recents-HOME-back or back-HOME-recents, no adding no changing on-screen buttons i.e. really sucks! I held S8/S8+ in hands at Costco, it kinda feels cheap and these edges is no no, I'll crack such screen immediately plus AMOLEDs are eye killers and I like to read books before going to bed! G6's completely flat IPS display w customizable navbar is a clear winner IMO!

Obviously keeping my V20 for now, gonna try G6 in hand and waiting for V30. Hoping that the latter will have same/similar IPS screen as V20, Hi-Fi DAC, great cameras (as V20 and G6), 18:9 with G6's kinda sleek body & w/o secondary display, LED notification lights and removable battery! That'll be a total killer phone!!!

Forgot to mention another epic fail is Bixby and its dedicated BUTTON! Sammy, I really loved you till S5/Note4 times...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skyfox99:
Yes, notice my post has it in quotes. That is what they call it, not what I call it. It's basically a step above Thermal paste.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
My work phone is a Samsung something and it has a dedicated app button above the volume keys. I think it's for Briefing. It's very annoying when I press it by mistake.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dc82:
I will sadly be bringing my G6 back, not because it doesn't make good on the thing it promises, i.e. beautiful screen, great camera, great build quality....I am bringing it back it simply fails at managing several basic points. Auto-brightness is atrocious, the rounded corners of the screen look like they were cut by hand, battery life at least for me is hit or miss with largely the same usage everyday (YMMV) and lastly, let's face it, LG's never hold value long. In a relatively short period of time this phone will plummet in value. I don't think the S8/S8+ phones are perfect (feel like wet river stones, dedicated button to a redundant feature that I will never used but am now forced to acknowledge every time I look at my phone and see another frigging button..... and the fingerprint scanner was placed by someone who has never held a cell phone) but Samsung phones at least hold value making your initial investment at least seem worth it. If I end up missing the G6 I will grab one in a month at a discount.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] malimal:
So tired of the lag that starts to happen on every Samsung phone..Doesn't matter what processor they have..They should have made 6gb standard. It's the one device that really needs it.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I think the G6 wins this round for me. My wife is getting the S8+, so I'll wait and see how the phone is, but one thing is for sure I don't like curved edges. I had a S7E as a loaner and hated the curved edges.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Saythis:
I can't agree more. I got rid of my S7 for my G6 purely because of this reason. Samsung throws such impressive specs on their phones, but their software is still absolute garbage on their Snapdragon S7. Furthermore if the US variants of the S7 show anything, there won't be a very good implementation of root for the S8/+ which is a deal breaker on a Samsung. I don't feel compelled to have root on my G6, though I'll welcome it when the day comes especially since TMO's G6 allows bootloader unlocks. I don't expect the S8 to be as impressive as the hype around it unless you get the international version with the Exynos. Their only selling point for me is the screen and if they optimized better than that disgraceful snapdragon S7.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] mhill1986:
+1 I keep going back to T-Mobile to look at the s8, thinking I must be missing something since it is supposed to be so great. It lags and stutters at every animation. Those leaving the G6 because of lag will be sorely disappointed, I'm afraid. I feel like an LG fanboy or something because I prefer the G6, but I actually think it's the more polished phone.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] maruichan:
I know this sounds unbelievable, but I don't personally care for the S8. If I had to return my G6, it wouldn't be to go to an S8. Maybe an S7, but I'd be more inclined to look at my options towards buying something unlocked at that point.

When I looked at Tmobiles online store, really, the only flagships they have for Android atm that are considered upper tier are LG and Samsung and of course you still have iOS/Apple. Where's HTC? Where's Motorola? Huawei even? Where's everyone else? Is this timing or is this actually the industry now?

My local store even still has the leather G4 on display :laugh: I'm guessing because there's nothing to replace it with...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MicroMod777:
Ha, was in same boat as you. My wife always made fun of me cause her S6 Edge was so much better than my G4. So when I got the G6, after a week of comming to my senses, I returned my G6 and preordered the S8+. She now has the S7 plus. Finally I'll be the top dog with the better phone!!! lol :))))
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MikeG6:
Im moving to G6 from S6 (flat), I don't like curved edges and i am tired of Touchwizz (Grace UX). It will be my first time with LG.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] FlamingCurry:
I feel like the S8 width is just weird. I'm taking a leap and going from my S7 Edge to LG G6. I hope battery life is just as good.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skywalkr2:
I was tempted by the s8 as it is a beauty. I was previously on the S7 and I liked it a lot. However Samsung isn't offering a flat screen this year... so G6 is the only upgrade option.

I am just hoping the V30 brings the big guns... I will use JOD to upgrade when it hits.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Saythis:
I went from a T-Mobile S7 to the LG G6 and I'm loving every second with the phone. My S7 ran hot, lagged and stuttered with almost every animation. The G6 in comparison was a night and day upgrade for me. I'm not even interested in the S8+ just because it'll probably be another laggy example of a Samsung device.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I thought I'd miss the screen size of the V20, but I don't. I think LG nailed it with the G6. Now, if LG could design a G6 with a stylus and call it the V30, I'd buy it.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] FlamingCurry:
Ah thanks! I got a custom ROM on my s7 edge, so it is pretty smooth and the battery lasts long. What kind of battery life do you get?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skyfox99:
Buying a phone for resale value only makes sense if you switch out your phones a lot, even then it's a stretch and is a waste of money to me. No phone holds its value. It's not like you'll ever make money off selling a used phone. They are worse than cars.

You pay $850 for that new Samsung, what's it worth a week later? No where near $850.

You pay $650 for G6, what's it worth a week later? No where near $650, but you spent $200 less to start with.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dc82:
I switch phones all the time. I don't buy a phone for the implicit purpose or "flipping" it, but I'm also cognizant of which phones hold value longer. Samsungs, any iPhone ever and now the Pixels hold value extremely​ well. LG historically does not. Which is why if I ever purchase one again, I would wait for the price to come down which it inevitably will. I've made money selling phones, but that's more dictated by being fortunate enough to get my hands on something rare or sold out.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Saythis:
I'm honestly considering the S8 Exynos variant. I won't even consider a Snapdragon version being that there is about a 0.01% chance it'll get root or custom roms based on what the S7 Snapdragon has shown. Not to mention the Snapdragon 835 is inferior to the Exynos 8895.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] gflexstump:
Played with the S8 and G6 and for me it was an easy decision to purchase the G6. The LCD screen

looked better and the whites were true white instead of tinted on the S8. The camera on the G6 was superior as well. I give the headphone quality output to the Samsung but not enough to make me buy it. As for real world speed the G6 went toe to toe with the S8 and in the end like the G6 LCD better and camera.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
My wife just received the tracking number for her S8+. I'll get to play with it for sure when it arrives. The only thing I miss (the Note 7 had this) is the ability to stream what I was watching on TV to the phone. The S7E I received as a loaner did not have that feature. If the S8+ does have it, hmmm.., I'll start looking at the S8+ battery life next, and then at what apps can be uninstalled​ or deactivated. I really like the G6 though... And would hate to switch phones again, but watching TV on the phone was neat. I'll just have to see how things unfold.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] HtcOnekid:
The s7 I had running 7.0 had the feature to stream what was on tv to the phone very useful when me and the wife watched and movie and I had go ****.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] gflexstump:
That does sound like a cool feature streaming wise S8+ is a nice phone cant go wrong with any of the high-end phones these days
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] :
Unfortunately here in the UK, not only do LG think we are unworthy of quad DAC or wireless charging, but we're also not worth any kind of marketing push. The S8 has been available to get hands-on in stores for weeks. I was in the city centre yesterday, and was looking forward to having a look at this G6.

Nowhere had it. Nowhere. They were all still displaying the G5. There weren't even dummy units for aesthetic impressions. You only get so much from YouTube videos.

LG: If you want to compete with Samsung, you are failing hard in this country.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Fille84:
Same thing in Sweden. LG don't see Europe as a big market or what?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
The wife's S8+ just arrived.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MicroMod777:
Werz urz???
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I'm going to hold onto the G6 for the time being.

The G6 is working well for my needs at the moment.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
My wife is home and is unboxing her S8+.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
The include earbuds with the S8+.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] vintagerock:
Can't wait to hear a real life review. I held one in the store and couldn't get over how skinny it looked and felt.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] strodda:
I still haven't seen the s8 in demo. No reason other than I haven't cared enough to visit a Verizon store. I am kind of interested though as I liked my previous s7e.

But I just read an article on phonearena that said the s8's are having screen issues where they have a reddish tint. Sammy cant catch a break.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MicroMod777:
Just got my S8+ yesterday. 98% better than G6.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skyfox99:
Based off of?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MicroMod777:
Based off my own experience with both.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I'm not digging the S8+. The Samsung's transfer utility does not transfer app data - you are screwed. And I had forgotten about the annoying Samsung Pay notification bar spam. More later...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] MicroMod777:
Yea its not for everybody. Different strokes for different folks! Some folks like em big n plus size! :))
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] bassnet334:
Yes I will be returning the LG G6. Long time LG user. 3 through 6 and I'm let down again. First off there is no RF Blaster. One of the most used features on my phone, why even remove something so convenient? Then there's the loud speaker location on the bottom of the phone, making it so if u turn your phone sideways for a game or movie your finger blocks the speaker. I also do not enjoy the head phone jack being on the top now making you place your phone in your pocket the opposite way when using headphones. And if charging and playing music you have cords out both ends. Then finally the phone has already had Bluetooth errors (I saw them being discussed already) and other freezes and slow downs. I feel it's time to go back to Samsung and just enjoy the benefits of a solid phone that hasn't had huge flaws in the past models. My girls Samsung Galaxy 5 still runs smoother and longer then my LG G4. Oh and why move the volume buttons to the side?! We love you lg for being lg.. Not like everyone else. I feel I downgraded by moving up from the G4.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skyfox99:
So, conjecture?

Does the S8 have an RF blaster (I'm assuming you meant IR blaster)? I do agree that the IR blaster was nice... Couldn't even tell you where my TV remote is, even. Not too many people actually used the IR blaster, or even knew it was there. So while I'm disappointed, I understand them not seeing the demand.

Haven't experienced any issues that I didn't cause. No lag, etc. Bluetooth has always been buggy on any brand phone. Some worse than others but I have had some weird issues with my car radio, but then it's been with a dozen different devices so could be the Sony head unit.

This phone is certainly one of the first I've owned where I may not even root it until it's some what depricated. There's really no place to put a speaker that won't be covered by your hand at some point, unless you do the HTC thing and put them on the front (increased bezel).

I don't think I've ever seen a phone that didn't have its issues. Probably would have to say the original iPhone. Probably the best Q/C'd phone of somewhat modern times. Apple did that one right. I never cared for Apple, even then, but I respected the first one for that reason alone. Progressively got worse every model after.

Other than the old Nokia brick. That thing was a tank in its own right.

I'm pretty picky when it comes to phones, bit of an annoyance when something doesn't work correctly and I have little to no frustration so far. I hope that doesn't change. But daily use has been flawless really. Knock screen works 10 fold better than any other LG I've used, the finger print sensor is well placed and very accurate, battery life is better than I've had in a long time, with a larger screen, etc.

Samsung is definitely the Android power house, but I think they've become the "Apple" of the Android world with a loyal following based on loyalty, alone. Bixby? That's a joke so far. Hard to compete against assistant and Alexa without offering anything they can't do. HTC used to be my favorite, but they just fell behind in design and just couldn't decide what their nichè was in the market on Android. I'm interested to see if Xaomi (spelling?) hits the market here with any significance. Sony had something with their Xperia line, but failed at marketing or really offering anything spectacular (they could have developed a model centered around audio like they used to back when or developed a better camera phone like it looked they were going to start doing).

There really hasn't been any major advancement in the smartphone world in the last few years. I'll give LG for trying with the "modular" design but failing miserably, but other than that no one is really taking leaps forward.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] lanhikari3113:
I tend to fall in line with your train of thought. I ended up going with the G6 over the S8 so I would be able to hold it better and for durability in the end. So far this phone has really pleased me. I on the other hand want to root it for Aosp 7.1 and custom kernels. Then I will be beyond in love with this phone.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] bassnet334:
Yes I did mean IR Blaster, and yet I'm surprised how unknown/hardly use it was. Definitely help me considering I have 3 missing remotes ?? and I agree about the speaker always being being covered at some point no matter the location but when your holding your phone upright your probably not doing something such as a movie or game the needs sound. Just happens to be the worst spot for movies and games being held sideways. On second thought though I haven't purchased a case yet and that may help move my finger off the speaker. But my LG G4 speaker location was perfect.. Knock knock is definitely 100 times better your absolutely right there. I wish htc would come back.... I almost miss my HTC EVO... Then remember the battery life Haha
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I played with the S8+ camera tonight and the auto mode takes crisper pictures than the G6. I'll post comparisons later.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I jumped. I'm really pissed about the inability to transfer app data. The finger print sensor on the back of the S8+ isn't a button like in the G6, it's just a pad.

I'll know in a day or two if I want to keep it.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] AsuraDas:
After hearing many reviews ad nasuem I can say at this point I have no interest in upgrading. The G6 is a solid device and Samsung hasn't convinced me that getting their product would be worth the added cost my bill.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] echto:
I've decided to keep the S8+ and return the G6. The G6 is very nice, and I'll recommend it to anyone interested in it.

The factors for this decision are the screen, it's simply beautiful, , I know that's just a screen shot and doesn't represent the screen - but it looks fantastic, and the scratch tests done on the S8 I've seen online.

The fact my camera glass scratched days after getting the phone didn't make me happy.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] AsuraDas:
Yeah I am sure S8 is fantastic. I do think s8 is a slightly better phone, but not good enough to justify the extra cost. Plus I am turned off by half backed feauters that probably factored into cost of device. All I know is that if the Pixel 2 (ow what ever Google names it this time around) is not able to be financed then I am selling this G6 and buying my way out of JoD. Tired of OEM devices
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] skyfox99:
Did you see the S8 is out of the box not full resolution or capable of full brightness? Seems shady to me
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] alex_mx:
I've played with both for a few days and keeping the G6...

Hardware in S8, seems to be better, but I do prefer the not so oversaturated colors of LG's LCD, however I've to admit that S8's screen is really nice to watch, Edge screen is not for me, I need to keep my hand in an akward position in order to not touch the edges...

The software in the LG G6 is way better, I totally hate Samsung's approach to Android, while LG keeps getting closer to stock, Samsung is moving away and away...

Both are great phones, but in my overall user experience, I totally prefer LG G6.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] zige:
Its just your opinion, not everyone think like you (you dont seem to understand it).

I had S8 first. It was first WOW but when i used couple days i got many annoying things. All stupid Samsung crap, stupid edges (there isnt any point of them), stupid fp scanner. IRIS-sensor was okay, nice feature but really useless for unlocking the phone because of slowness and you had place your phone just right front of your face.

S8 also didnt feel as premium as G6 feels. S8 sides feel like plastic, maybe because of color and coating they added. G6 feels lot of better ans sides feels really pure aluminum.

S8 and isnt laggy for me. Both feels smooth. Im not either one's fan. I have tested all Galaxy S flagships from Galaxy S1, All Note models from Note 1 and all LG G-flagships from G3.

Biggest important thing for me is flat screen! You can place TGSP perfectly on screen so 10/10 LGso you get ultimate protection. I also like that they have Gorilla Glass 3 on front as it was best against scratch. I never got any scratch to GG3 screens. GG4 and GG5 was just improvents to impact and they was really good scratch magnets.

I have used both now littlebit over 2 days. Samsung will get 7/10, G6 9/10. Im disappointed for no wireless charging for EU or DAC but it isnt deal breaker.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] biffwitch:
I've got the S8+ but considering the LG G6 myself. The only thing keeping me on the S8+ is the amazing battery life, 2 days, 8 to 9 hours screen on time, and the fact I can use VR which I really enjoy.

The camera on the LG seems to be incredible and I love the wide angle lens, but not sure I can miss VR and great battery life as going back to sub 8 hour SOT seems like a big downgrade.

The other thing that always annoys me with LG phones is they always have a light tint on the screen at the top of the notification bar.

Aside from that I would very much consider the G6 and might just get it anyway for the wide angle lens.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] The-Last-Hylian:
The Exynos is a joke - definitely NOT worth it. Yes it gets high numbers in benchmarks but the thermal throttling is awful and gaming performance is at best 2013 tier. for more information read Hamdir's posts in the HTC megathread.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] xPhantom:
I actually like having the speaker on the bottom because when I turn the phone sideways, it's in the perfect spot to cup my hand around it to help amplify/push the sound towards me. I've always done that with any bottom-firing speaker.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] pomponazzo:
Or if, like me, you hate having to cup your hand, you can get one of those cases:

That little trick of the audio diffusor is just brilliant :good:
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] bassnet334:
I don't like having to do that but yea it does work.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] sdbe:
I would definitely try one of those cases if they were available in the US. The bottom speaker is the only thing I have an issue with on the G6. But I guess it is a tradeoff for the small bezels.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] pomponazzo:
Too bad... I just googled that Lab.C case and you're right, no luck in the U.S. Weird, they have an U.S. website: http://www.labcusa.com/

It's usually the opposite, many cool accessories I read about on XDA are not available in Europe.

Keep looking!
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] strikerdj2011:
had the s8 6 in total due to pink screen got the g6 now no regrets
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aakkaa:
Hi, I am trying to use the original rom with Adb, but why does the phone become bootloop after this code?

adb kill-server

adb start-server

fastboot flash boot boot.img

fastboot flash fastboot droidboot.img

--->fastboot flash recovery recovery.img this code

fastboot reboot-bootloader

:confused::confused:
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenbo111:
It won't boot into the bootloader now?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] lapocompris:
Does anyone know how to flash untouched stock L09C432B378 with TWRP ?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] christopherpfister:
You do need to have an unlocked bootloader, then you can enter fastboot mode and flash TWRP.

You can flash the full OTA again in case something goes wrong and this does also restore the bootloader lock.

Or do you mean to flash the firmware in TWRP?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] lapocompris:
The phone has a material problem that need to be returned for service, I want to flash a full stock ROM with all the bloatware.

Could you point me to the full OTA download ?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] christopherpfister:
Here you can find any firmware for the EVA-L09 to download. You need to extract the content to a "dload"-folder on your sdcard and start the install by booting with Vol+ & Vol- pressed.
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] lapocompris:
I am currently on MaHo_66's ROM with TWRP, will this fail to flash ?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] christopherpfister:
No this should work in any state your device is in regarding what's installed/flashed except​ when your battery is low.

But consider that it will also restore recovery/boot partitions and the bootloader in general.
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] lapocompris:
I downloaded the EVA-L09C432B378.zip and did as you said, but the installation failed (incompatible package)