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[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
Nope, I don't really care if you entertain the conversation. Open snapchat, scroll settings, do a play store update. Lag on lag on lag. Even app load times are slower than they should be.

As far as battery, obviously theres no arguing what you're getting. My guess you are not using screen off "ok google" or always on display to get that. Regardless, there is obviously an issue as some users are reporting horrible bettery and performance, while some have no problems with it. Both of these things are relative, but still there is likely a software issue with the device. Have you run antutu or geekbench? I got my scores out of the box, no apps installed yet. 1600/3600 on geekbench and 118k in antutu.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] bricky23:
Ok stopped listening when you said that the OnePlus has lag ?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
So you cant show me where it lagged? Guess my battery has been horrible also right? I hope you've returned your device by now.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
The comment about oneplus is much more aimed at battery. Either way you dont need to listen to me, half the people in this thread have the same issues.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Ive seen 3 I believe. You sure you wanna stick with that 1/2 number?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
I edited my post to comment on your battery; its fine (and only fine). What I said already is that I'm guessing you're not using always on display or screen off "ok google".

Funny enough, even with all the complaints about it, I am keeping it for one reason only; the always on display.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
Haha, man, you have the day off or what? Are you invested in LG? Is that the issue? You're on top of this thread like you have stake in the company.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AmesCell:
The reviews I've seen have mentioned the AOD used like 0.7% per hour which was slightly better than S7E. Are there brightness settings making AOD worse for you or the reviews wrong?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
Here's something not subjective. Notice the G6 sitting nicely below the previous generation device.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
AOD is on, ok google is on, all syncing is on. Ive posted my complete settings list on android central to help another user. You're free to view them if you like.

Tapatalk notifications are a great thing. Lets me know when someone replies with nonsense. Also, this is my first LG phone, ever.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
I saw that review too, it was based on the G5 I believe. My devices drains about 2.5% an hour overnight with AOD on after a fresh wipe. How much of that is because AOD, obviously I don't know. But, I think they still have some software tweaking to do to get the AOD drain down to what it was on the G5.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AmesCell:
Yeah that's rough. I can live with like 1% for AOD. But 2.5 isn't good.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
My phone is an all around dog, so I am sure not the whole 2.5% is because of AOD.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] GolferChris68:
I don't have the phone yet, but as a photographer, I would suggest using the camera in pro mode, and increase the shutter speed. The issue with motion in low light is that the camera will choose a shutter speed that is much too low to freeze action, giving you blur when something/someone moves even slightly. And OIS does nothing for freezing motion - it's only good at steadying a shot of a static scene like a landscape or building.

Try taking a photo of someone/something outside in good light, and see if you still have blurred images. If you still see blur, something may be wrong. If your image is crisp without the blur, you know the issue is the camera shutter speed being too low to freeze motion in low light/indoors. Good luck!
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
I've been messing with it today and found the shutter speed in auto mode with low light is way too slow. I was getting speeds as low as 1/4 and averaging 1/20. I've switched to manual mode and if I have time to adjust it then everything's great but trying to point and shoot is kind of a mess.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
I really like the phone so far. I've been doing comparisons to my Note 5. Sure, if I switch back and forth the screen size seems very different. But if I use the G6 for a while I don't really notice it.

The front facing camera on the G6 seems to take better pictures. I have not compared the rear camera yet. Some of the native apps don't play well with the 18:9 screen. The main one I notice is the play store. The bottom gets cut off pretty good. You still see the whole screen/image but there is a large black bar at the bottom. The play store is also not one of the scalable apps. I can live with this though. Once we get root, I know there will be nav bar DPI changes so that area isn't so gigantic. LG at least gave us scaling options for icons, as well as an option for really small fonts. I always use the smallest fonts on my phones but even the smallest option on the G6 is maybe top small for me. I'm glad they did this though, because the overall 640 DPI is enormous.

Have only played a few games so far... CoC and Mario. Neither have an issues. But I realize these are not graphics intensive games. The phone also appears to be made very well. Feels excellent in the hand.

I know people are having lag issues and camera issues... I have yet to experience any of that so this post is all about the positive.

Thanks.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] GolferChris68:
Yeah, very hard to shoot a static scene handheld at shutter speeds of 1/4 of a second, much less a moving object.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] yanouch:
[MENTION=251856]IOU[/MENTION]dog3114 : can't you just accept the fact that YOUR phone with YOUR setup is lagging and NOT all the others one ?

You may have a faulty device, ask for a new one and see if things get better or not....

But please, stop explaining to everybody that they are not able to tell the difference between a smooth and a lagging device or that they are lying just to justify their expense......it's annoying
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] asialove2013:
Some phones are optimized for Gfxbench or Antutu...
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
Nope. Slow phone.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
lol, Im starting to thoroughly enjoy the fact that your phone is aggravating you and not the rest of us. The fact that you are paying for a device you are clearly upset with is comical and at this point rather entertaining. I think I'll go scroll through my settings a few times to enjoy the smoothness and pure speed of this device.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
It's not bothering me at all. I'm patiently waiting for the April 7 update. But even if that doesn't improve it, I'll still keep it, for AOD.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Nope you don't seem bothered at all. Have you noticed the software number on the T-Mobile update is older than our current version?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] djinn415:
For those who had the Mate 9, how does the battery life and camera compare with the G6? The Mate 9 is the first phone that I had the best camera and battery experience to date. I pre-ordered the G6, but I am a bit hesitant that both those features won't live up to the Mate 9. If so, I do plan on returning it within the 2 week window.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
I just sold my Mate 9 yesterday if that tells you anything. The mate 9 I averaged 8 hours SOT and a couple times hit over 9. On the LG I am consistently getting 6 1/2 hours SOT which is plenty for me. I take it off the charging pad at 6:30am and put it back around midnight with roughly 38-40% left. On the Mate I would have about 50% left.

As far as the camera, they are very very comparable. The Wide angle lens on the LG is incredible but motion blur in low light on auto mode is not good at all. It wasnt great on the Mate 9 either but as of right now its worse on the LG. You can remedy this by increasing the shutter speed and iso until hoepfully an update arrives. In daytime and well lit shots its excellent. Very rich and detailed and again, that wide angle lens is amazing.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
lol what do you mean "not the rest of us." it's clearly got performance issues, there are numerous people in this thread complaining about the same thing.

anyways i'm returning mine anyways so this is a moot point. this is the first phone in my history of owning phones i've ever returned, it's that bad.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AmesCell:
There has to be an update coming. This is probably the downside of shipping early. LG thought they had a couple more weeks for the update.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
I mean you're in the minority if you go through this thread alone and count how many people have issues and how many dont. Basic math really.

Btw, 3 people have complained including you in case you were wondering. Would you call 3 "numerous"?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
i would call it enough to be a problem. and the only reason some don't see the problem is they're either coming from a samsung or another LG phone. both are riddled with framedrop and microstutters everywhere that people don't notice simply because they haven't used a phone that doesn't have that problem. my problem is the phone sucks with the apps i use and i shouldn't have to wait for a software update to fix it. it should work out of the box especially if i am paying such an astronomical price for it.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Its less than 3% of the users in this thread. I mean you cant really say 3% is a problem and like you said "my problem is the phone sucks with the apps i use". That makes it a subjective issue. It sucks that it didnt work out for you but its not like this is a widespread issue. Coming from a Mate 9 that is probably one of the smoothest phones on the market, this doesnt feel any slower day to day. Before that was multiple Androids and iPhones over the past 10 months and I would say of the 13 phones Ive used in that time this ranks as the #2 phone for smoothness. I also wouldnt call $650 astronomical when most other flagships are at least $100 higher for a base model.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
Or $200 higher, and rising.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
i did the math (since you claim you went through and counted lol) and 16% of people hate the phone including myself. 4/25 people hate it, 8/25 like it, and 13/25 are indifferent. learn2math.

right now this phone has a 32% approval rating from this thread. that's lower than donald trump's. not looking very good m8.

look man i know you as well as everyone else are in denial so there's no point in convincing you. i think i just have the same problem as someone else in this thread. i'm coming from an iPhone 7 plus which is far superior than anything android has put out in terms of performance. i honestly haven't enjoyed my experience with an android phone since my nexus 5 (not the 5x, that phone was terrible.)

my biggest gripe with iOS is it's just so damn boring and i get annoyed at how locked down it is. that is why i switch back and forth to android once a year. android has been a large disappointment ever since 5.0 came out. 4.4 was legendary and nothing will ever be the same.

had some faith in 7.0 though so i'll reserve judgement till then. but i think aside from android being such a resource heavy OS qualcomm chips are just very underwhelming. the fusion destroyed the 821 and it's still better than the 835 by a sizable margin. qualcomm plz stop making crappy chips.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Not sure how you count but when I stopped on page 8 13 people said they had zero lag. 3 said they did including you. We arent asking about liking it, we are specifically speaking on lag are we not? You can skew things any way you wish but the fact is 4 of 25 is a small minority. Btw, I omitted a 0 in my previous post. It was 30% not 3. Your number makes it 16% so thats even better, thank you.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
Honestly the only thing right now that gives me a satisfying experience compared to the iphone 7 plus is the mate 9 or the mi mix. Anything else will fall short in some department; usually performance and battery life. But, I am with you, the iphone is a boring device. Fantastic for those that just want something that works, but boring for the geek.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
i do my counting fairly. i did my counting based on the people who clearly said they didn't like the phone. at first OP didn't like the phone but i took him out since he seemed to enjoy it more.

either way in my opinion (and 3 other's) the phone isn't good. that's all there is to it. i'm not going to argue with you about it anymore so you can enjoy your crappy phone and i'll enjoy my 650 dollar refund. should also mention if you return it through t-mobile customer care you don't have to pay a restocking fee. such a nice bonus.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Should I assume since you have nothing really to add to this forum you'll be headed back the the ios forums?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
i don't have to post on the iOS forums because their phones actually work :good:

look at my post count. i only post here if my phone has an issue (or when i rooted back in the day.)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Well thats good to hear, Im glad iOS is working out for you. It was good talking to you while you had a G6. Good luck in you're future phone purchases. Maybe Ill catch you in the Note 8 forums when that drops.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
you'll catch me in the s8 forums, i just preordered one. will i be as disappointed as i was with my prior samsung purchases? probably. but at least i could stand to use those phones longer than i could this one. and i have to have some experience with android as it's a part of my job to recommend the right phone for people. that's also part of the reason i still buy androids.

to be fair this isn't the worst phone i've ever purchased. i think the nexus 5x was an abomination of a device. the 7.0 early dev builds worked great with that phone and i was stoked it was finally going to work the way they intended it to and then the final build (official 7.0 version) broke the camera. rolling back to marshmallow makes it work again and then the moment you upgrade it breaks it again. returned it to LG, they sent me the same phone back (with android 6.0) and it worked again. upgraded to 7.0, camera broke again. it now sits in my desk unused.

i think the moral of that story is that i'm just going to avoid LG.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Ok now Im confused. You're going to pay even more money for a phone you know you'll be disappointed in but say this phone, which now "isnt the worst phone you've used", is "astronomical in pricing"? Thats almost as bad as loudog keeping a $650 phone for the feature that only works when the phone is off. I cant take this conversation seriously anymore.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
He's using liberal math. (^_-)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
lol at least the s8 comes with 100 dollar headphones and a VR headset + controller to compensate for the phone's shortcomings.

i saw some footage and hands on from various people navigating throughout the software and i'm actually impressed. i couldn't spot any of the samsung lag in the videos so we'll see. plus their virtual assistant is pretty impressive based on some of the functionality associated with it and it may make automation here at my company a little easier for those on the road.

there is a reason i do everything m8, you don't have to take me seriously. it surely isn't my problem lol

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woah buddy, don't lump me in with those snowflakes.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Lol, the snowflake comment just made me respect you so much more lol. Seriously though, I hope the S8 line is amazing software wise because I am set on a Note 8 and want it running as best as possible. I truly hate curved screens but the Note line offers me so much more from a business standpoint with that s pen. Bixby is one of those things that Im not sold on when compared to google assistant but I do see the value of it when you factor in all the software it can potentially interact with. The fingerprint sensor however is in a ridiculous place and the battery size is questionable. Overall its a beautiful phone, just not enough to make me drop the G6.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bigal77:
i appreciate all feedback. but when every reviewer and video shows no lag and says its pretty much like any flagship (ps - fast) ill stick with their opinion first.

You either have a defective device, or just one of those users never satisfied

I have a nexus 6p and it flies. im sure ill like the g6 with better screen and smaller frame and waterproofing and nicer build and better camera

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also....all kinds of freebies with the g6. What carrier are you with? In the us ppl are getting 49" HD TVS. In canada we are getting an LG soundbar and blueooth subwoofer (200$ value) while other carriers are also offering bluetooth headphones
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
tmobile offers the free google home. i didn't claim it until i knew i was satisfied with the phone. i wasn't.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
You own a MI Mix? The regular or the pro?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
i'm not seeing an app drawer so it looks like they are taking a similar approach to LG/google pixel. the point of the software is to "get you to interact with the infinity display." i hope like the G6 they give you the option to have one. i hate having icons everywhere on my screen :/

dunno, i saw a guy from the verge using its integration with the camera to search things in an augmented reality sense, so that's pretty cool.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
I'm actually happy you aren't a snowflake. Shows you have an actual brain. I was hoping you didn't come back with, "did you just assume my gender". Lol.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] majp89:
also i forgot to mention i don't really trust reviewers. the verge, engadget, etc all said the s7 was a legendary phone in terms of performance and it was garbage performance wise actually. anandtech and someone here on XDA wrote articles on the frame drops all over the phone and how every single samsung flagship has this problem. so i can only really take people who really know what they're talking about seriously when it comes to reviews.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] echto:
I received mine yesterday and I also noticed some delay when opening apps. I'm jumping from a V20. I enabled developer mode and disabled all three window animation settings. That corrected the lag issue for me.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
I always use Nova Launcher for the app drawer and customization so for me I dont care what they do to touchwiz in that regards. The LG one was ok but I used it only to open the app drawer and find the play store. Im the same and have zero icons on my home screen since I hate clutter. That picture search is great but we've had that for a long time now with google goggles and the reverse image search. Its a cool toy for a few but never really went anywhere.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
256/6gb
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
Could have just said pro.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] loudog3114:
I haven't actually heard it referred to as the pro.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
Ahhhh... That's how it's listed on AliExpress. I was considering purchasing one a few weeks ago.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekerbuddyeker:
how does it compare to the Mate 9? I had that for a while. loved the speed and screen size but software wasnt great.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
I sold the Mate 9 if that means anything. So far the G6 has been just as speedy but more "reliable" software wise. Battery life has been surprising as well. Getting through a whole day no issues and consistently hitting 6 1/2 hours SOT. I also like the smaller form factor. The Mate 9 was a bit larger than I like.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekerbuddyeker:
what about the screen and the software (especially email)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pieman13:
Just my observation, tick slower than the pixel but not enough to make me return it. Love the form factor and size, it's perfect.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Screen looks the same honestly to the naked eye. Possibly slightly sharper on the G6 due to the increased dpi on the G6. 561 dpi vs 373dpi on the mate 9.

I use the LG email app for a massive exchange account and it's working excellent. It's one of the few that will sync all my emails going back to 2008. Gmail stops at 2015 and the mate 9 email did as well. I get mail on this phone before any of or other phones on our exchange account except my iPhone. That always gets them first.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] lm that guy:
i just received mine and installed all my apps and accounts. no issues, butter smooth

Edit: I have a question, how do you take screenshots?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Hold the power and volume down at the same time.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrock79:
Or use the capture button in the drop down.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Don't have that on mine. T-Mobile version.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrock79:
I have the tmob version. You may have to hit the edit button
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Not seeing it. That's odd.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrock79:
Very odd
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wingzfan:
Ok got it figured out. You have to have LG's quickmemo app installed. I didn't install any of the LG apps so it want showing.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
Did you use a program to install all your apps? I'm spoiled by Titanium backup and Welp, that won't work till we have root.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SikkNazty:
Just got mine from the store today, coming from the V10. Absolutely in love with this thing! Feels very unique and fresh. These bezels are so nice. IDK what people are talking about, this phone is buttery smooth.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] echto:
This afternoon I experienced a lag and a strange, weird screen redraw I've never seen on a smart phone before. This prompted me to look at the system info and I found I had no available memory. WTF? The blue tooth app was consuming over 800 megs, unfortunately I didn't get a screen shot of that. I was too busy dealing with dismay. Once I killed the blue tooth app RAM was freed. Again, wtf? I can't help but wonder if it's going to happen again.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] lm that guy:
No I'm also waiting for root. I had to install all 36 apps i regularly use one by one from the play store.

This makes me not want to root lol, if something really is going on with our devices, I don't want to be in a situation where my warranty is voided and I can't exchange.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] maruichan:
Something isn't right. 1% average used... and you have 0 free. Average MB used 45MB...

Here's mine for reference.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] brosling:
I'm using the telstra / australian version and have really enjoyed the software experience so far. Not one issue. Quite clean and smooth in fact!
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] luch4galaxy:
YES