yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[TouchPad General] aujbman:
This is amazing. I had an old rom that was degrading and causing the tablet to constantly reboot and become unstable. It had been sitting on a table unused for a few months at least. Saw this post and within 10 minutes I have Android Oreo on my Touchpad. Great work guys! Gotta get used to the slowness now compared to using Tab S. But it might still be good enough to use for a smart home controller. Very nice!
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
What old Rom are you speaking of?

NT
[TouchPad General] aujbman:
It was a Pac Man rom I believe.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
If you feel you have mastered DoubleStuff's method of installing a Rom on your TouchPad, you should give J.C. Sullin's CM11(KitKat) Rom. No, it's not Oreo, but is a better developed, mature Rom with very few issues IMHO. You'll find his latest build here:

https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=14849

Download the last one dated Nov. 16, 2015.

You'll find a KitKat Gapps here: https://xdaforums.com/android/software/app-minimal-gapps-gapps-lp-20150107-1-t2997368

Or here: https://opengapps.org/

If you don't like Sullin's KitKat, it will be easy for you to go back to Oreo.

NT
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
update-TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip

....and he will need this old TWRP file if KitKat4.4.4 gets installed, this will be the "permanent" TWRP.

I guess I could put the 3 links for Sullins Kit Kat in the OP, so far I have special areas for Oreo, Nougat, Marshmallow, but could add Lollipop and KitKat.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Why not the more the merrier!!!!!:D

Hum, I thought Flintman's newest TWRP would install any data media Rom?

NT
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
NT,

I added the links to install 4.4.4 to original post, check it out and give me an IM of any verbiage you wanted

added or subtracted...Its below the Marshmallow links....

Yes Flintmans newest TWRP will install any data media ROM, but I believe you also need to install the original TWRP so you can do maintenance with the 4.4 ROM...Correct me if I am wrong...I guess I am a little confused about the TWRPs....So your saying you can use the latest TWRP not only to install, but to do continued maintenance?

Notice in original post I have all different TWRPS for Oreo, Nougat, Marshmallow and now KitKat....I guess I might have to do some testing on this question.
[TouchPad General] Petitsurfeur:
Hi

Upgraded from pac_terderloin-userdebut 5.1.1

With FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.1.0-0-5-09-17, open_gapps-arm-8.1-pico-20180601 and du_tenderloin-v12.2-20180524-1336-RC > Installation Ok

Everything was fine (WIFI, Google Play, ..). Except I have no sound (tried with Music player, Chrome/youtube, TuneInRadio,...)

Do you have an idea ?

[MENTION=8115234]DoubleStuff[/MENTION] > you should add a link to the Novacom Driver and maybe modify the llnk for Flintman's Dirty Unicorn WIFI 8.1 ROM >> should be https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=tenderloin
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Thanks I fixed the link to Flintman's Dirty Unicorn WIFI 8.1 ROM.

Now as per the Novacom Driver, my original post assumes the user already has Novacom, Java and TP Toolbox already installed, if you note in original post there is a highlighted RED line that directs users who don't have the former to [MENTION=4597570]RolandDeschain79[/MENTION] special link that explains and has proper links.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Only thing I noticed is you might want to mention to download this specific dated Rom: cm-11-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip. Your link takes the user to a page with all Sullin's Roms on it.

Still wondering, won't this TWRP: http://evervolv.com/get/FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.2.0-09-06-16.zip install any data media Rom including Sullin's KitKat?

NT
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Ok thanks for feedback, I added the verbage cm-11-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip to indicate this is the latest ROM.

I will do a test......but you are correct that using FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.2.0-09-06-16.zip as the "temporary" TWRP it will install KitKat and any other version.....but, user will have to install a "permanent" TWRP for later use. Are you saying KitKat will be compatible with this NEW TWRP?

So a question for you, lets say your using the old method of installing KitKat with just the TPTB, will

FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.2.0-09-06-16.zip be compatible with KitKit??

I will do a test and report back, are you saying all we need for any Android version 4.4 through 8.1 is the latest TWRP? Which is FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.2.0-09-06-16.zip

And by the way there is a newer TWRP than you pointed out above its:

FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.1.0-0-5-09-17.zip
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Hello NT, I just performed a test and I learn something new everyday on these boards....

Apparently, all versions of Android from KitKat to Oreo are compatible with the latest TWRP

as of now its: FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.1.0-0-5-09-17.zip, so in the original post of this thread you will notice I tell the user to use different TWRP's for the "permanent" TWRP depending on the version of Android they are loading, but according to my test the user will just have to use FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.1.0-0-5-09-17.zip as their "permanent" TWRP in their package of 3 zips.....of course the "temporary TWRP" is uImage.TWRP and its the 3.0.3.0-1-23-17 version.....

Wow, now that was a "kick in the head".....but I learn, and that the key.

for the permanent TWRP, even though it was not even in existence during the KitKat days....

***My problem was I thought the TWRP was dependent on the version of the ROM, kind of like

for each version of ROM you need a specific version of GAPPS....but apparently the TWRP version is totally independent....
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Thanks for running the tests to confirm my suspicions. To the best of my knowledge, the main dependency of TWRP was compatibility with Data Media Roms. I'm not saying that an old Data Media version of TWRP will install the newest Roms, but the newest Data Media version of TWRP will handle the older Data Media Roms. And your testing proved that. So this makes your installation easier with only one version of TWRP needed for the temp and permanent TWRP. Yeah!!!!!:)

BTW, look closely, both of those versions of TRWP are the same, Flintman just shrank the second one so as not to crowd the /boot volume and make space for Sullin's TPTB in /boot.

NT

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Aren't you going tyo change the Sullin's KitKat part to include:

Download Permanent TWRP Recovery zip for 6.0:

FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.2.0-4-27-16.zip

or something like that?

NT
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
I made the change the OP for Nougat, Marshmallow and KitKat and maybe will add Lollipop later.. I was be able to really "clean up" the OP, and delete all those old TWRP links.

I looked at RolandD's Lineage thread and he made this comment in the OP:

Note: Flintmans newest TWRP builds cannot be installed with the TPtoolbox, flash them from an older recovery.

So the real reason that current KitKat & Lollipop threads still require the old style TWRP's is because they are not compatible with TPToolbox, it has nothing to do with the ROM version. So because this "Alternate Install Method" does not use TPToolbox to install the TWRP's, then all versions of Android can use the "latest and greatest" TWRP. Like you said NT.
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
Flintmans TWRP not compatible with TPtoolboxv42

Yes that's correct. I use Flintmans latest TWRP with Lineage 11 and its fine but you can't install Flintmans TWRP from the TPtoolboxv42. However I seem to remember that you could fool the TPtoolbox by renaming zips it didn't like, not sure what version of the TPtoolbox we did this with. Flintman and the DU team would love to get their hands on the TPtoolbox source to fix it but Jcsullins is no longer around here:(. I'm surprised NT didn't explain this... he may have aggravated Jcsullins into leaving XDA.

You should have Milaqs lineage11 in there, a rom guide needs to offer the best go to rom around;) Keep up the good work:cowboy:

Edit: Milaqs also got a good Lineage12 rom but I can't find a working link. It was recently updated till the link went dead.

Users report the best experience and compatibility with the older builds like lineage11. Milaq has kept them relevant with the latest security patches. However, the user experience is subjective and depends largely on which apps you use regularly.

Oreo is great to have on the HP TP but development takes time and people want compatibility now. From what I understand users swap around different roms trying to find the one that works best as their daily driver.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
One of my prouder moments. :p There didn't seem to be anything that you, me and a few others could do in the TouchPad threads that he was happy with and he just had to make negative comments about. I grew weary of his constant sniping. DoubleStuff has jumped in to make installing any Rom version easier and as far as I'm concerned, that is what makes XDA a better place. :)

NT
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
Yep it sure is great to have this new method hats off to Double stuff for that. Although I do wish Jcsullins was still around, he was a very talented developer and has done a lot of great work for the HP Touchpad community. Its true he wasn't happy with everything around here, my guides included but we're all still using his TPtoolbox even this thread owes him credit. However like most things in life forums can get frustrating and sometimes you just need a break. Unfortunate he's not part of the DU team that would be interesting.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Hello RolandD I added Milaq 11 Lineage to the (Rom) guide with a little quote from you!

I might add a comment in the guide that if any "said user" will scour the XDA boards and find any ROM ( after 4.4 ) and accompanying Gapps, the Alternate method will install...Then I won't be fixing "dead links" my whole life on XDA....ja ja ja. And I know RolandD and NT is saying, "LOL, been there done that"!!!
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
No argument here that he is a very talented developer. It's just that his bedside manor sucks. Who knows, maybe he still clandestinely contributes from time to time. He could be a silent partner on the DU team. :D

I always wondered what he did for a real job.

NT
[TouchPad General] thisperson:
I am now on 5/24 build. Things have improved. 3/28 had been the last steady build for me. I know users Talked about problems in the build after that one (3/28).

Was able to install mini rather than pico gapps without the setup screens causing endless crashes.

Bluetooth can now connect to a speaker. Not sure about file Transfers. Change codec under dev settings if it sounds staticy like mine did.

YouTube 720p does not stutter.

Overall a more steady and more complete ROM, IMO. DU devs are doing good things. TY!!!!

I have a problem with WiFi hotspot. BT tethering does not work either. Also I set up my router as ipv6 but the tp did not even see the SSID. I switched my router back and forgot to check if a tp reboot would fix it.

I once was able to connect to the WiFi hotspot. Just once. Was never able to again. That was 3/28. After on the same build and it never again saw the SSID. Even did a reset on my phone.

Despite this issue I love the DU ROM.

Edit: Spoke too soon. Tried to get it working again. Had to disable all the superfluous things for WiFi from dev options and from the WiFi off scanning settings screen. Posted while tethered and on my morning walk.

Perfect!

Dunno about BT. It auto disconnects phone while in tethered modee. Headset works fine and stays connected.
[TouchPad General] RolandDeschain79:
I've wondered that too. Sure would be great if he was still secretly contributing to the HPTP:fingers-crossed:

Flintman mentioned that the BT implementation was new and buggy here if you've got logs he'd like to see em. When installing oreo did you happen to try the DU Nano gapps package here(ARM)? That's what Flintman is recommending in his OP, best to try whatever files the developer recommends.
[TouchPad General] br3ntos:
At this point I'm not even sure which ROM is best to flash to this device but:

Flintman's Dirty Unicorn WIFI 8.1 ROM: ( then Select the RC tab )

Shows "No Files here" under any tab.
[TouchPad General] shumash:
https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77037390&postcount=105
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Well gonna give Oero a try, but JC's 4.4.4 is stable thanks for posting this.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Hello deafasheck, yea, yea be careful of the "bloatware" LOL, but you and others looking for Oreo links, not sure how long the main Dirty Unicorn 8.1 links will be down, but in the meantime RolandDeschain79 posted these links...

Oreo ROM: ( 6/18/2018 date )

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkzur0bgz257djb/du_tenderloin-v12.3-20180618-1308-RC.zip

Oreo Gapps: ( 8.1 Nano )

http://www.mediafire.com/file/o7i5k3mxsyrdsr3/open_gapps-arm-8.1-nano-UNOFFICIAL.zip
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
A Big Shout out to both you and Roland Deschain..

I had edited my original post on here I had not seen ant Notifications of your reply, thanks so much Double Stuff. love your Twerp and ROM's .. you and Roland have helped in so many areas, I've became fairly Geeked! :laugh: I just love to test these ROMs that are built and shareds here, it is an honour to say I owe most of what I learned on my TP from you and Roland, and couple of others.. well here goes..........

Thanks again RolandDeschain for posting those links, I tried the rc link from TP it would not download, so am going to use DoubleStuff twerp and tptb and of course your ROM.. and comtinue to read posts and see what I can learn...

i know this is not a training site, per-se, but I'm thankfull I've found this site and made pals from some of you...

I'll learn it all through guys like you! thanks again..
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
Hello Deafasheck, I am glad you are getting "geeked out" on the XDA forum, yes I agree we have many great and patient teachers on this site, but I tell you to enjoy all you can during the "hey day" of the HP Touchpad, because like the great "prophet" Nevertells2 always warns us, a time is coming when the HPTouchpad will be long in the tooth ( i.e old ) and maybe it will give up the ghost, so enjoy my friend deafasheck, enjoy....

And when the days are done, we can look back on the great HP Touchpad and its many custom ROMS and sing this song together, with Nevertells2, RolandD, Shumash and even JC Sullins.....and it may bring a tear to our eye, as we remember all the great friendships and triumphs we had during the "good ole days"......

Those were the days ( with sign language )
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Thanks DoubleStuff, yeah TP are on the end game. I've always thought of them as a learner tablet.. I've learned so much from you guys, what I must do now is learn the electronic workings of tablets,

PS: :Loved the "Those were the days" in sign! much thanks my friend..
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Well Liking the Oreo so far all but I lost camera in setup, is there any way to revive it? Love the boot screen animation as well, lost customizing the launcher though, unless i'm missing the setting?

all in all its a nice ROM.. Thanks to RolandDeschain DoubleStuff and JC Sullins!!

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Yes, JC Sullins cm-11 rocks, although its out dated it's still the stablest.. thanks for posting extra links i have ran all his ROMs his latest is the greatest!
[TouchPad General] rcamp48:
A big thankyou to doublestuff

Hello Doublestuff:

A very big thank you to you and all of the other developers who are working on the HP Touchpad. I am at present installing Android 7.1.2 with the intention of running IPTV on the tablet. If I get it working properly I will send a video of it in operation. How stable is the system of Noughat 7.12 from EVERVOLV? Do I need to tweak it or am I better off installing Oreo 8.1?

Is it stable enough to run IPTV or KODI ? Just curious. Russ Campbell
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Love this Dirty unicorn ROM!! Thanks so much Flintman and thanks to you Nevertells2 and DoubleStuff I love the tptb Twerp its amazing.. although i had to give up Camera and tinker around to learn settings and such.. its speed and stability is amazing.. I had to reinstall a few times, messed aroundf lost Int SD card, using the Virtual one offered. then formatting lol.. not sure on that yet so i just seleceted eject, and hope for the best, i have my SD with my Build zips in there..

I'm using the skz and SU zips as well, everythings installed, now to learn what to do with it..

Thanks goes formost to JC Sullins, Flintman and Doublenut-:D I mean Stuff...:o
[TouchPad General] crawford69:
I've been running JC Sullins KitKat 4.4.4. I wanted to try Oreo because lots of the apps I use have gone pas being very compatible with KitKat. It did not work. Lots of freezes. I decided to try JC Sullins Lolipop. It didn't work either. I finally settled on The Milaq Lineage 11. It's working well, but I have one problem. The Amazon Appstore app keeps stopping. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this?
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Is there a Build Prop I can use to balance out oreo? I keep getting random re starts and sluggish response.. or would that even matter ?

I have slow Screen responce and random freeze up and reboot issues, any idea ? I have all the files recomended installed plus the file size atc..
[TouchPad General] rcamp48:
A good ROM to use

Someone told me to use EVERVOLV 7.0 and I have tried it, seems to work the best out of all of the roms I have tried. It seems to work good with everything I have tried, except streaming but I use my desktop for that anyways or my laptop. No sense overloading my poor HP TouchPad, although I have seen some messages from other users that have successfully used streaming with Netflix I believe with EVERVOLV 7.11 and a special program. Can't remember what it was right now but I can search for it later on after I play with my Atari 1040 STFM (gotta do that). Will be online all night so if you want to get in contact with me for questions about electronic stuff just send me a PM ..... Russ
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
A couple of posts back you were loving this Rom. What happened? ;) How far back have you read this thread? Have you followed all the ideas and suggestions of others? I personally have not seen anyone discussing tweaking the build.prop in years. You can be pretty sure the DU crew has added all the tweaks they deem necessary. Don't forget you are trying to get a very advanced OS working on an 8+ year old tablet that HP never intended for Android to run on it in the first place. The fact that Oreo runs on it at all is an amazing accomplishment. Getting it to run as smoothly as a Sullin's KK build, never gonna happen. The fact that DU even supports the TouchPad is also amazing. I expect to see their support dry up very soon. Look how much time passed from the last build to this one. Discussion on other once active threads has completely dried up. I would put a stable build on your TP and use her til she gives up.

Good luck,

NT
[TouchPad General] samgu:
I tried Oreo and didn't like it for my use. So I will give a try to Milaq's rom. However, I have a question: if I resize the Android partitions to Oreo's suggestion size, install the "permanent TWRP", install Milaq's rom, but maybe in the future I decide go back to Oreo's rom, do I need to use the Toolbox to clean the Touchpad again? I mean, do I have to go through the entire process, or just flash Oreo's rom will do the job?
[TouchPad General] deafasheck:
Best Advice

Thanks Nevertell, I like the HP-Touchpad Best Build 4.4.4 even used the bloatware script and UPM_v12(Android_2.0.x-4.4.x)_ I been trying various builds of JC's I can't seem to get Milaq's to cooperate, lol I'm still a green horn.. I like the options of Dirty Unicorn and only issue besides no Camera is random re starts..
[TouchPad General] samgu:
Answering my own question, yes, I don't need to go through to the entire process. In fact, after formatting all data from Milaq's rom, and installing Oreo again, it's running fine!!
[TouchPad General] crawford69:
Over the past two weeks I have installed almost every ROM suggested in this post. The ONLY one that works without random reboots, freezes, and other irritating problems is JC Sullins KitKat 4.4.4. I really do like this method of installing ROMS, though. It's very simple and fast.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Like I have said all along, if you want a stable, mature, reliable, well developed Rom, install the latest version of JC Sullins KitKat 4.4.4. It may not have all the cute stuff the later builds have, but what fun is cute if you have to deal with all you just mentioned.

And even if it might work, I doubt you will see PIE on the TouchPad. It's been an 8 year run and the old girl is tired. She deserves a rest. RIP my old friend.

NT
[TouchPad General] crawford69:
You're right. I hate to see it happen, but it can't last forever.
[TouchPad General] tpwuk:
I've just installed the DU ROM. booted it up and it has been on the DU "Stay Dirty" animantion for 20+ mins now. Is this normal please?
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Better place to ask your questions: https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/test-build-dirtyunicorns-android-8-1-t3754235

NT
[TouchPad General] huladaddy:
Installed 8.1. Loving it! Looks like Open-Gapps-Nano didn't include YouTube, and I can't seem to install it through the Play Store. From the web, it says that the app is not compatible with my device? Are there any solutions?
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Sideload the .apk. https://apkpure.com/youtube/com.google.android.youtube

NT
[TouchPad General] Danimal817:
The	doubleStuff_v03 zip file link takes me a webpage stating:

410

Gone
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
If you talking about the link at the bottom of the original post, well thats a Zip file and I just tested it and it seemed to work. It will bring up a window where you can open the Zip file or save it on your computer. So try again and report results, with maybe pictures and links.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Just tried that link and first time got" That site not available" , "Timed out"

i hit refresh and file downloaded successfully. XDA could be having some

server issues.

NT
[TouchPad General] pas7771:
Installed 8.1 all fresh install .. what a difference. Great explanation on post 1. installed without problem. I'm kind of happy with this new born HP touch from the firesale long ago.

Thank OP
[TouchPad General] killerbees19:
[MENTION=8115234]DoubleStuff[/MENTION] Just out of curiosity: What's the difference between your (temporary) uImage.TWRP and the latest v3.1.0 uImage.TWRP from Flintman? :confused:

I've loaded the 3.1.0 uImage.TWRP into memory with Novacom, but it's impossible to use it for initial DU installation at the Touchpad. It fails with strange system volume errors. After booting your uImage it installs without any problems.
[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
As you have noticed the version I use for the temporary load is 3.0.3.0-1-23-17 and Flintmans latest TWRP is FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.1.0-0-5-09-17.zip. The reason I used 3.0.3 for temp load is when Nevertells2 and I created this thread, it was the latest TWRP at the time, and since its only temporary we did not feel a need to upgrade it because frankly it does its job. I don't know the difference between 3.0.3 and 3.1.0. Maybe Nevertells2 could shine more light on that, but most likely the developer Flintman knows.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Sorry DS, I'm done testing. I'm a Sullin's CM11 fanboy for life. It just works too well. I suspect that the name of the latest TWRP says a lot as to why he might be having problems.

Happy New Year, NT

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