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[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Are you saying that mtch is not an update of mtce (as mtce was am update of mtcd) ? Are you saying that mtch units do not use the same STMicroelectronics 32 bit mcu ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Pavel-71:
Yes I am saying MCU MTCH update (hmcu.img) is not compatible with MCU MTCD/E (dmcu.img). They are different platforms on different microcontrollers. New devices with MTCH have different boards:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Different boards? The board in your picture Is a som. The som is not relevant in this, assuming it has the same layout as other mtc soms, it's the mcu that is. At first glance that som looks to have the same connectors as mtcd/mtce soms. What mcu does mtch use ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Pavel-71:
I'm just saying that since they started putting out these boards, the MCU has changed to MTCH, when I was looking to see if it was compatible with MTCE, I came across the comments of CS-X, who is on the 4pda recognized capacity for the MCU and he claims that they are not the same. If you want more information, you can ask him. Direct link is prohibited, so type in Google search: CS-X 4pda MTCH. I'm sorry, but I don't know more about it, I just wanted to prevent any problems.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Yeah, they changed the SOM connector- again - and MCU, but hardware is still MTCx platform.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Right, so a halfway house between mtcb/c going to mtcd/e and changing board and mcu - they changed the board but kept the same mcu.

Waiting to here your thoughts on my predicament in my old boards thread by the way.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
CS-X is also on here or at least he used to be.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] makes2068:
Maps still not working. Back on 9.46.2

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] maxiauer:
[MENTION=6942549]hotaudio[/MENTION]

It would be great if you can share what's on your mind for the future of this device... Would it be updated to 7.0? Are you guys thinking on moving directly to 8.0 as some post suggested? Or are you focusing on further cleaning/bug removal on Android 6 for the foreseeable future?

While upgrading for the sake of being able to claim compatibility with latest android release is not really helpful for the users (everybody prefers a stable device rather than latest SW), what Google is doing with the assistant seems quite nice :) and I understand there's no possible dirty trick to get Assistant on Android 6 (while there're some "options" posted for Android 7)

Kr

Max
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
No, there never is.

Any MTCD GS MCU will work.

Yes, many times.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] fiffle:
OK, Thanks. So the MCU 2.59 in the first post is the false?! I must wait for the GS Version?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Probably play it safe until you're confident.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
What makes you think its false ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] fiffle:
No GS Version?!

Sorry for my English, i use Google.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Right, well what you are saying does not make any sense, maybe use another translation service ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Oberbergler:
I wrote Dasaita via Facebook and they told me that there is coming an update to Android 8 this month. Although I don't think that this is true because Android 8 is very new.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] pubeth:
Noted. Thank you so much! :good:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ptexas:
Hi folks,

I have a Klyde unit with the following MCU:

MTCE KLD v2.65

AS far as I read the MTCE seems to be identical to the MTCD and I could flash Ritter Version.

My ROM is the stock Android 6.0.1. and I would like to root it or flash a custom Rom like Malaysk. Am I right that any MTCD PX5 Rom will work with my KLD 2.65 MCU device.

I am quite confused about this MTCE thing .. ??
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
MTCE is a software upgrade of MTCD - the hardware is identical, the software is upgraded.

You are right - ANY ROM will work with any MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 device, including yours.

[MENTION=3590033]Malaysk[/MENTION]'s RK3368/PX5 ROM will not work with any MTCD/E KLD 2.65 device - MTCD/E MCUs can be flashed to any MTCD/E device and there are 4 types - RK3188/PX3 1Gb L, RK3188/2Gb N, RK3368/PX5 MM and Sofia L/MM - the MCU is totally separate from the processor.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ptexas:
Ok thanks for your clarification, the fog is getting thinner but is still present. I now just received a new dmcu.img and a update.img from the vendor of my device and I will first update MCU and ROM and see what changed to better or worse. I then will probably apply root (kingoroot works as I found out) and eventually flash a custom ROM. Here you increased my confusion by first sying that any Rom WILL WORK with my device and one line later telling me that Malaysk's ROM will NOT WORK with any KLD device.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
I also said that there are FOUR types of MTCD/E devices each with a different processor (there are also MTCB/C devices), this is why its not true to say that [MENTION=3590033]Malaysk[/MENTION]'s RK3368/PX5 ROM will work on "any MTCD" device, his ROM will work on any "MTCD/E RK3368/PX5" device, not just KLD MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 devices.

As KLD make MTCD/E devices and MTCB/C devices so his ROM will not work on "any KLD" device.

To clarify - Malaysk's MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 ROM will work on ANY MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 device.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] B3rt:
Does anyone have an idea where i can get MCU updates for my HLA unit?

My seller reports that my model is not sold anymore and they got a new version which has other software.

Due to this they do not have any updates now and in the future for this unit :(

My seller is not the manufactor, this would be Hualingan (= HLA), i contact them but they do not answer/respond on any mail or message i send them

So how can i get the latest MCU for a HLA device?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
I have searched google and xda, I cant find one either, in which case you should read [MENTION=4974080]marchnz[/MENTION]'s "Cross Compatible MCU" thread and use another MCU on your unit.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] hotaudio:
Hi Max

the latest news is PX5 will update to 8.0 , and it will be very cool system .

now the 8.0 version still have some bugs . probably they will release at the end of this month

when firmware is ready , I will post it on this link

regards

Quick
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ptexas:
Ok the fog is gone .. thanks. I now installed the MCU my vendor sent me for my Klyde HU after I told him about various black screens and freezes. It is version KLD_V2.50 and thus a downgrade from my original KLD_V2.65. But it seems that the system is more stable with this MCU. I used navigation an d DAB+ on an daytrip without problems. So far so good, thanks for your support.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Great. :)
[MTCD Android Head Units General] awktm:
Thats great news! Any chance of having the software google certified so we can install the latest Netflix etc?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Kirma:
Cool! thanks.

It will work with any PX5 system ?

mine is KSP2
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Bose321:
What exactly does make upgrading to Android 8 it a very cool system?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Are you gonna pay for Hotaudio to get the certification ? . . .

Yes.

Well be nice to have the latest Android version, but theres no Xposed for Oreo yet, so thats not so good. Pity they didnt go to Nougat instead.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] awktm:
Well I can buy a $59 android phone that has been certified. Imagine buying a phone or tablet only to find out you couldn’t install a growing number of apps? Are you aware of what it costs?

“What do I do if my device is not certified?

If your device is not certified, we have not ensured basic security features or apps from Google and the Play Store can work as intended. Please keep in mind that your device may not be secure and may not function properly.

We recommend you contact your device manufacturer or retailer to ask for a fully tested, certified device.”
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sda2:
So, according to this thread: https://xdaforums.com/android-auto/.../mtcd-verified-cross-compatible-mcus-t3624724 so HA and KGL MCU is cross compatible.

Does this mean I can update my KGL unit to the latest MTCE MCU v2.65 ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Virtually all MTCD/E MCUs are cross compatible, so your answer is yes, but you should be posting in the Cross Compatible MCUs thread about it really, not this one.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] SkyBeam2048:
This would be a bad decision. Android 8/Oreo was the right decision to get a system with maximized support duration.

The developer of Xposed recently released the framework for Android 7 and claimed the changes from Android 6 to 7 were huge which caused the delay but Android 8 is supposed to be very similar to Android 7 so porting will be much easier. Therefore expect Xposed to be available soon on Android 8 too. No need to go for an outdated system because of that.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Bose321:
Exactly. Going for Android 8 is a good decision. I'm wondering if it will run even smoother than now. And maybe better support for multi-view etc. I saw someone having that working, any idea how that's possible?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Yes, use the running apps button same as on phone.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
I don't know why could be an outdated system...whay can't you do with android 6 in car with respect to android 8?

I do agree not having a 4.4 kit Kat...but android 6 or 7...is more updated that any premium brand that currently are adding android auto capability....or more the car stock headunits which are completely obsolete including the same day you get the car from the agency

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] SkyBeam2048:
It's not about what you can do and what you can't. It's about support lifetimes. Each product (in this case each Android major version) does have it's defined support lifetime. During this period you will get functional updates as well as security updates. Especially the second item is important and getting more and more important in the future with connected devices (IoT). What happens if you run insecure, vulnerable devices could be seen recently with botnets like Mirai.

With the release of Android 8 it's clear that Android 7 is only maintained for a limited time and for sure the support will end before the one of Android 8. So yes, Android 7 is not to be chosen any more for new projects. At least if you care about maximizing your support lifespan as a vendor.

Given the fact that developing a software solution based on a base system like Android takes some time as well it might happen that by the time you release your software solution the end-user support for your base system is already expired. If you take responsibility on your customer base you can't offer them the solution any more as you can't provide decent security support.

Here we are talking about car head units. Cars are use by owners for about 5-10 years (in some countries even much longer). Software support during the whole lifespan is something I am personally very concerned about. Even stock (OEM) head units don't match my expectations here and I was hoping to get something better with Android units. Especially given the fact that those units are highly interconnected units (Bluetooth, WiFi, LAN, CAN bus...) security is a real concern. Just take the recent BlueBorne security issue on Bluetooth devices I wouldn't prefer having to switch off Bluetooth entirely to prevent attacks on my Head Unit at a certain point in time rather than getting a simple update.

So yes, Android 8 is the better choice.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ZeligPC:
Security updates? LOL

I'm running one of the latest ROM releases (from Hotaudio...) ad it has Security Update Patches of 1 year ago (1st october 2016)!!!

And probably some chinese spyware hidden somewere...

If you are concerned about security (or just privacy), just forget these HU... ;)
[MTCD Android Head Units General] SkyBeam2048:
I do only partially agree.

First of all the discussion was about Android 7 or 8. Chosing Android 8 leaves no room to go for an outdated Android 7 release which is outdated already at time of release. So the Android 8 update will force to include the latest updates at time of release.

I agree however that upgrades are not delivered on time. The best way to mitigate this is to get the sources and implement regular automatic releases.

However in general its bad practice to justify one mistake by another. So I dont accept saying "I dont go for something better since they are all flawed anyway".
[MTCD Android Head Units General] diabloss:
seems PX7 based on rk3399 soc is on the way.

and its logical because A72 cores from rk3399 more compatible with android 8 oreo
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
What makes you say that ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] diabloss:
Well the progression of hardware and software on overall markets.

I mean it is quite logical if you look for example the rockchip SoC evolution same time with Android evolution

rk3066 (A7 cores) -> Android 4.x - px1

rk3188 (A9 cores) -> Android 4.x , Android 5.x - px3

rk3368 (A53 cores) -> Android 5.x , Android 6.x - px5

rk3399 (A72 cores) -> Android 6.x , Android 7.x , Android 8.x - px7

Now the trick is if the manufacturers will do some nice and fancy possibility of upgrading only the SoM module in the existing units on the market (some of them did it from px3 to px5 in the past).
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Yes, I m aware of all that, but this is speculation, I thought that you had read somewhere that a manufacturer was releasing RK3399 SoMs.

If we are going by the past however, then maybe we can expect a new platform along with a new SoM ? - MTCB started with RK3066, then went to RK3188, then the MCU was upgraded to MTCC. Then new MTCD platform was released with RK3188, which then went to RK3368, then the MCU was upgraded to MTCE . . . so if RK3399 comes out it may well have a new, non compatible "MTCF" platform.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] diabloss:
here

https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/0...wered-by-rockchip-rk3399-hexa-core-processor/
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
That doesnt prove anything - its an RK3399 tv box motherboard - how is that proof that RK3399 SoMs are being developed for MTC headunits ??
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ddgelder:
Running background tasks possible?

Hi,

I’m looking to buy the Dasaita HA2153-V600 unit.

Some users with Android 6.0 devices from another brand (Pumpkin) are reporting problems with background tasks. Any app installed and started by the user will be terminated if it is in the background.

Can anybody confirm it is possible to run Spotify in the background while using Waze in the foreground?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] diabloss:
lets see , maybe [MENTION=8150222]Dasaita[/MENTION] will disclose something from their plans :)

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lets see , maybe [MENTION=8150222]Dasaita[/MENTION] will disclose something from their plans :)
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Any Android device can run several processes at once.

Pumpkin are sellers only, they sell units made by other companies, ALL MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 SoMs are the same.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ddgelder:
Thanx! On my current Android 5 unit things are working perfectly, but it is getting slow and I would like to have a higher resolution screen.

I was getting a bit worried because users are reporting this behaviour with different Pumpkin models on their forum. Perhaps there's an agressive task killer in their firmware.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
No plans for a close future to that processor...

Now focus on px5 . Android 8. 4gb ram.

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I have no issues with background tasks...can use waze and Spotify in background

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Funny, I was thinking of another RAM group buy to upgrade my RK3368 SoM to 4Gb and maybe even a 128Gb EMMC card (max for RK3368 is 128Gb).
[MTCD Android Head Units General] AnphibiO:
Help with dasaita v600

I bought a multimedia for 1 month and it is showing the following defects.

fashion model: V600 Rockchip PX5Octa-Core, 64-Bit Coretex A53 - For Mitsubish ASX

1 - EasyConect does not work (Connects but the screen turns black)

2 - The sound is giving a few stops (about 0.5 seconds)

Does any update work, which one?

Follow images of errors

EasyConnect http:\\tinypic.com/r/nyskmw/9"

Configuration "http:\\tinypic.com/r/zsny1f/9

Configuration "http:\\tinypic.com/r/2vubn7t/9"
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sdonaghey:
Tried to install PX5 firmware 20170926. Update flashed and unit rebooted, but now it seems to be locked up and the Home, back and Navi buttons are just constantly flashing.

MCU was updated to v2.65 also

Any ideas how to fix this?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Do you have a dasaita (MTCD_HA) unit?

If so...try to flash again from.recovery

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] emre33:
PX5 6.0 UPDATE HA (20171016) https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z0i9ts
[MTCD Android Head Units General] makes2068@gmail.com:
Changelog?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
It's included in the archive.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Bose321:
Interesting. [MENTION=7621504]f1x[/MENTION] did they use the same fix you are using, and does anyone know if it actually works good?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] :
What is MTCE? Is this a new coreboard, radio vor mainboard? Anywhere has info?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Bose321:
Just updated software (MCU) for now.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
It doesnt matter - ALL MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 ROMs are compatible with each other.

Download the file and look at the changelog.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sdonaghey:
I disconnected the car battery and connected it back up. Everything is good now.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Andyxmas:
HCT2_px3_7.1(20170901).7z > i can install > Filename HCT2_px3_xxx.7z

the Version from 29.09.2017 is New4_px3_7.1(20170929) > i cannot install > Failure then reboot.

Someone with same Problem?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] argus357:
Please update link on front page for PX5 EasyConnected.HT05.4.4.1-a00a6af-171010, compatible with IOS11 and Android 8.0
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
If you have a link why not add it to your post ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] argus357:
I don’t have the link, I was hoping someone that has it might post it.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
The version compatible with ios11 and android 8 was included into new Rom.

Read the change log.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] olwe:
Hi all..

I finally got a Dasaita V600 and will be installing it myself hopefully soon. I just have a few questions.

I've been reading a lot about the install process. I have the unit powered on by my battery charger to have a look at it and it really looks good.

My first question is if I backed up the dmcu correctly so I can update, root and install Malaysk's rom. The steps I did were to go to Factory Settings and Export. It looks like it gave me a dmcu file with only a small file size. Is that correct?

Second question is about the RCA connection for my speakers. Currently, I have my front speakers and sub powered by an external amp, and my rear speakers powered by my Pioneer HU. Looking at the RCA connections on this Android head unit, do I use RCA splitters for my front left and right speakers as well as my sub?

Apologies if these questions are fairly simple. I just want to have the supplies I would need to install this correctly the first time.

Thank you very much.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Backing up the MCU settings is just for the vase you move from one manufacturer to other in MCU (I.e. from mtcd_xxx to mtcd_yyy)

Updating the android part (rom) is completely apart from MCU.

If you update from one version to other for the same manufacturer the settings are kept

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Where did you hear about this version ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] argus357:
The version compatible with ios11 and android 8 was included in the latesr Rom change log. Maybe it is possible to extract it from there.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Or...update to the last Rom directly?

If you are using Malaysk two options:

Wait for an update

Extract the app by yourself from the stock Rom

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] makes2068@gmail.com:
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Is it worth updating if running HA from 26.09.2017?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
I didn't notice any special thing from that version.

Update if only suffer from any issue

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Generally people update when a new MCU becomes available and only downgrade if theres a problem.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] blu1111:
Good day, i've mounted a Dasaita HA5207BV600 in my car and updated to last MTCEv2.65 and firmware 20171016 but i've some trouble:

- FM radio poor connection, always low quality audio during FM radio only few radio station work properly.

- Bluetooth: when i'm in a call with bluetooth and someone call me behind the connection falls. It don't mind if i answare or don't to the second call, the connection to bluetooth falls and i've to reconnect manually. The second call don't appear in the display of the radio. (i'm using and iphone SE with ios 11.0.3)

- Google maps (start driving) always in block at first time start

I've read about android 8.0 and 4gb of ram correct?? is it possible to upgrade ram in my MTCD??

For the other this radio is awesome!!!

Good job guys!!!

:cowboy:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] magedkathom:
hi

dears

I have an obd2 device, I can't connect it with my mtcd unit, the bloutooth in my unit found the obd2 but it couldn't pair it.

is there any way to solve this problem.

sorry for my bad english.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
To pair it you should.do it within Bluetooth app (not settings>bluetooth)

For allowing searching for a new device...no device shall be connected.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] magedkathom:
thanks for your reply.

is there a specific app or I can use any app.

can you Suggest one.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Does your car have an OEM antenna booster ?

Yes you can upgrade the RAM - the RK3368 can take up to 4Gb RAM.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] blu1111:
I’ve original double fakra antenna in my car

For connect to the mtcd I’ve mounted for first the single fakra to iso cable and now the double fakra to iso cable But no Any step forward in the audio quality.

What’s that booster??

The amp Blue cable?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
Most cars have an antenna booster and the OEM head unit injects power inot the antenna line completing the circuit and making the booster work, these untis do no do that so you may need a power injector, this will inject power into the antenna line and make the booster work, do you have a blue wire on your fakra adapter ?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] blu1111:
Yes, i’ve to use that?

Where i’ve to connect it?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] typos1:
The "ant" and/or "amp" blue wire coming from the head unit.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
The Bluetooth app on the head unit that comes with the Rom....

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] blu1111:
What kind of ram is mounted?? Normal notebook ram?