yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Cruise General] isv51:
It's not a bad communication.. There is no communication. Not one of my 3-5 mails was replied. I'm waiting since December for response.. Don't believe to get one.

Another reason is, the graphical power that is promised.. So many people are waiting for a solution for the TytnII and there is nothing yet..

HTC had a lot of time to work on this problems.. They could fix the problem, i think, but they won't.. Not yet.. HTC isn't (in fact) a small company.. Certainly, they have various programmer they working on the ROMs. Why do they sell PPCs with a "mellow" Software? In every project, you have to test your software, before you can say: It' works.. But HTC maybe forgot the testing phase or it was to short. Such disasters should not happen.

The mobile phone with beamer, is very interesting. Won't it be overheat? It must be a new technology without a lamp which is getting hot.
[Touch Cruise General] RaptorRVL:
Well, apart from the video acceleration the Cruise is a very good device. Also my s100, s200, p3300 and Touch were (and probably are) very good devices. If you look at the hardware not much is wrong with HTC imho. Only had to contact support once and that went very well, also got a fast response.

But indeed, they are a nightmare when it comes to deadlines. And you're not the first that doesn't get a reply from them. However, I'm not quite sure how well other companies would do in that department.

Anyway, I'd say judge them more on the quality of their devices (thats most important in the end) rather than their communications. And so far I've been quite happy with the quality of HTC devices. Warranty handling is also allright, so luckily not too many communication problems there. Those two things are on top of my list when it comes to buying another device from them yes or no. In the end it all comes down to personal experience (that can change from person to person).

I had a really bad experience with Nokia and warranty handling (first no response, long waiting times, they 'lost' my phone, then said they sent is back but it was sneakily still at their place for a month. Result: 4 months without phone for a simple speaker repair). And once it was delivered again it had a big scratch on the display. So now I puke on the bastards :D.

When my S200 needed to go for repairs I got it back fixed within two weeks.

The little projector uses a laser as it's lightsource perhaps because of that it doesn't get that hot. Apperantly they want to switch over to leds which should give better image quality (and maybe get less hot?).

Non dutch article can be found here
[Touch Cruise General] Bodisson:
Why do you all complain? It looks like modus operandi for mobile device producers.

Same thing is with Eten, Nokia support sucks big...

Only support worth mentioning was from Siemens mobile, and even them took almost forever to do something. And they never answered, they just did things.
[Touch Cruise General] anonimo:
And now 7th February.... this is so funny :)
[Touch Cruise General] seriousdav:
Touch Cruise available on mobilostore

Hi guys,

just like many of you I've been looking for the Cruise in every shop, and got a lot of false date most of the time.

Then I just called mobilostore on 15th jan. and they got it in stock.

I received it in 24 hours. :)

http://mobiloclubic.mobilostore.com/index.php?id=product_desc&idProd=120836

hope there will be some left for you too.

They deliver to France, Swiss, Belgium, Luxembourg and Monaco

PS : new security feature on the Touch Cruise : you can see the fingerprints of each person that touched it, it's all over the screen :(
[Touch Cruise General] isv51:
Yes, it's normal. You have to use a screenprotector.. a special one.. :)
[Touch Cruise General] anonimo:
And now it's 8th February... and higher price.....

So Expansys UK has changed the date already six times.... let's see how many more before this thing is actually available from them.
[Touch Cruise General] anonimo:
And now it's back to 7th February, this being the 7th time they change the date!
[Touch Cruise General] Rob CT:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...s-moving-manufacturing-contracts-back-to-htc/

HTC seems to be a bit busy. Too busy to get those TCs out to market?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
TeamHorizon's XenonHD rom builds for Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 SD MIDO

http://www.xenonhd.com/

XenonHD is a custom firmware aka ROM for various Android devices. It is based on Lineage 14.1 with additional features, performance and battery life improvements.

The idea behind XenonHD is to give users a ROM that is "blazing fast, rock stable and buttery smooth".

What's working :

Boots

RIL (Calls, SMS, Data)

IR Blaster

Wi-Fi

Bluetooth

Camera

Camcorder

Video Playback

Audio

Sensors

Flash

LED

GPS

Fingerprint

Known issues:

You tell

Instructions :

Download the latest build and GApps

Reboot to recovery

Flash the latest firmware, build and GApps

Reboot

Downloads :

Un-Official build [17/04/2017]: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298948086

Un-Official build [14/03/2017]: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298938364

Un-Official build [12/06/2017]: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298962715

Sources :

https://github.com/thp1997/android_device_xiaomi_mido

https://github.com/thp1997/proprietary_vendor_xiaomi

https://github.com/thp1997/android_kernel_xiaomi_msm8953

Credits :

abhishek987 for Devices, Vendor Tree and Kernel

All The members of #AMT Team

Contributors

Ramesh Hunter

ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat

Version Information

Status: Stable

Created 2017-03-14

Last Updated 2017-04-17

Do Hit Thank's Button If you Like My Work. :)

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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] sanjurh1:
yummy will try n let u know the bugs:good:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] jmazzamj:
Thank you mate, I'm very happy to see so much development already for the SD variant of the Note 4.

I'll give this a try and report! back!

Cheers
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] shubh.patil153:
osm grate news..

thanx bro

cheers
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] K001droid:
Awesome.

XenonHD is Awesome :)

Keep up the GOOD WORK...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
Thanks bro
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
[MENTION=5997954]rameshurfrnd1[/MENTION]

Rootless substratum commits added?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
Personally i have not added Substratum commits as the rom already comes with substratum support for more info go to xenonHD.com
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] K001droid:
www.xenonHD.com

It has Substratum support by default :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
I meant the rootless oms they updated a week ago.

We don't need root to theme now.

Substratum works even if you don't install supersu on your device
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] K001droid:
Oh!

Yes , but i think if XenonHD officially didn't added rootless support maybe additional rootless OMS commits aren't done.

But , in future builds [MENTION=5997954]rameshurfrnd1[/MENTION] might add.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
That's what I'm waiting for.

Hope the op replies soon
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
post updated with link enjoy
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
Did you add rootless substratum commits?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
no it comes with rom itself
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
OK Buddy.

Do we have hardware button disabling option?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
no
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] antarix:
OK
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] sam9908:
PowerAmp is not opening in this build.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] jojoamora:
Nice rom .. Very smoth

Good job :)

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Miui forum apk don't work sir .

Please fix
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] thedevilashish:
How much RAM is free on first boot?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] jojoamora:
This rom suport vulcan api .. awasome
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] jojoamora:
Sir portable hospot eror
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
Rom updated

check post
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Shan8:
can someone extract camera.apk from this rom and share the link to download?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] itsmedRb:
When it will be official?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] shivamstiffler:
Hotspot error
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] gauravbhakuni90:
Will this be updated ??
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ryo47:
What do you mean by flashing the latest firmware? There is no link given for that. Please reply and help me fast! ASAP!!!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
This firmware :- https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634766008
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] FrenzyR:
post updated 7.1.2 r17 https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298962715
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] m.shyamsundar37:
Sir no camera app in this new build??

Even if I use google camera app, I can't record video and it says (can't connect to camera). I'm just able to take photos...

Please fix this sir..
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Hi guys, I am going to release official builds of XenonHD for Redmi Note 4X soon ;) thanks [MENTION=5997954]rameshurfrnd1[/MENTION] for unofficial maintaining
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Anyone using this rom.

Is there any bugs in it ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
thats great news for us.

if u want a beta tester for this rom that plzz share me the rom. i would love to help you
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
1st pre-official experimental build. it will support OTA already :) please test and let me know everything

https://mirrors.c0urier.net/android/teamhorizon/N/experimental/mido/
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Wll report if any.

Please add volte icon as it was present in unofficial build in next build.

And thanks for this rom .

Its my fav
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
Just a quick question : why you so worried about that Deym volte icon? :eek:

I see you everywhere posting about volte icon plz, Volte icon plz :eek:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Not only me wait for some days u will find this thread flooded with query itself

And once this rom becomes official like aicp then no chances for any device specific changes it will be source changes only.

And ya i like that volte icon

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And please update this thread or either create a new thread for this official rom
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Please provide your telegram chat group so that we can report the bugs there.

And please update this thread so more no. Of people know abouy this official status
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Of course I will create the official thread soon and there you will be able to report and request things. I/we don't use telegram.

BTW there won't be volte icon ever

BTW2 official status doesn't mean no device changes for me
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Wont be volte icon ever

Why is it so sir??
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
Oh again?? :crying:

Please stop lol
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Just asking not forcing:silly:

I rest my case wll use another rom it doesn't matter me.

Although i like xenonhd roms but okay i leave it for now.

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Leave it sachin

And this was the bug i found check yourself if it is present in los or not.

Turn on mobile data and then try to turn on wifi or hotspot.

The wifi may not turn on without reboot
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
Wtf bruh? What's up with you? :rolleyes:

You're free to go to any other Rom that had volte icon included, no one's cares. But please stop this spam everywhere. And also, your post seems kinda disrespectful :eek:

I repeat, please learn to behave, you're kinda great sir.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
Hey bro thats your thinking i didn't disrespect the dev .

Please read the post again didn't mention anything about the dev and i have mentioned that i like xenonhd roms

I just said that iwll move to some other rom if this rom didn't have the feature that i like.

I dont think so i am disrespecting the dev :eek:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
Oh alright.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] JackSparrow17:
Volte Icon lovers, Plz use this stickers and get volte icon feel on any Rom.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sachin:
Bahahahaha
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
not aksing anything from u so just keep quiet.

dont look into the matters of other until they need ur help .

thank u.:o
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] JackSparrow17:
I didn't helped u, I helped Volte Icon lovers....
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
I think u were indirectly pointing on me.

anyway leave this topic we were going off topic.:good:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] ForgottenDude:
You posted stuff on a public freaking forum. Expect replies from everyone and their mother.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] JackSparrow17:
Hahaha, Mother's?

BTW, U need VOLTE Icon?:laugh:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ghostriders17:
bwaahhhh:good::laugh:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
I'm inviting you all to the official thread: https://xdaforums.com/redmi-note-4/...her-development/official-xenonhd-7-1-t3647173
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] lbcsc.clx:
is this pre rooted rom
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] TriMelonPie:
Hello there!

I just wanted to know if anyone has experienced this. My friend has a Cloudphone Thrill Plus which has 1.3GHz MediaTek MT6580 quad-core CPU while our Vibe K5 Plus has 1.2GHz Octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 616.

My phone has an Antutu Score of 40780 while my friend only has 24850.

Vainglory runs at 30-50 FPS at Low settings while my friend runs it at 25-30 FPS at the same settings.

BUT, here's where it gets mysterious.

Alto's Adventure (A 2D game) runs a little slow on my phone, while his runs it flawlessly

Injustice: God's Among Us (A 3D game) runs flawlessly on his phone, while mine is a little bit sluggish

Dream League Soccer (A 3D game) runs flawlessy on his phone, while my phone can barely get to 30FPS with that game.

Same with Mortal Kombat X (3D), Space Marshals 2 (3D) and other seemingly low-end games.

My phone's GPU and CPU is set to max clock at performance governors.

I am rooted and currently using MIUI 8.

BRIEF SUMMARY:

Phone performs poorly when compared to lower-end phones.

FOR REFERENCE:

Here is a comparison of the 2 CPU's

http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...k-MT6580-vs-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-616-MSM8939v2

Are we missing something here? Or is my phone fake/bugged?

If this is a widespread problem, let's fix this, If I am the only one having it, then I don't know, please help.
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] Droidge:
When it comes to in-game performance, a processor isn't everything there is. If your friend has a 720p screen, that's what's causing most of the performance boosts. Rendering at 1080p is a taxing task, and will take a lot of processing power from both the set of processors and the GPU. Another factor to take into account is the amount of RAM available for a game's process.

In my opinion, if you're looking for performance, you shouldn't be using a MIUI ROM to begin with. Switch to AOSP-based or LineageOS-based ROMs, and try experimenting with custom kernels. There's always a possibility of your phone having a manufacturing defect or simply being fake, but that is extremely unlikely.
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] TriMelonPie:
He has a bigger screen than me, I have 3GB ram and he only has 1.5

I have tried different roms but they still give the same result.

It's possible that My device might be rendering at 1080p while his is at 480p or 720p even though he has a bigger screen.

If so, then how can I change my screen to 720p?
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] TriMelonPie:
I'm hesitating about changing to Nougat since benchmarks show that Marshmallow still performs better
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] TriMelonPie:
Okay so I downloaded a resolution changer, but it messes with the off-screen hardware buttons, is there a way to retain the hardware buttons while on a lower resolution?
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] nico1228:
hey bro, Is it real that you got a cloudfone thrill plus 16GB phone? I actually rooted my just a few days ago, can you give me some links on where to find some good rom? and why is it that we are not having our own thread? we are actually sharing to lenovo sections here. thanks in advance.
[Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus Questions & Answers] nlooooo:
This is one more post that confirms that benchmark scores doesn't mean s**t in real life. Don't trust benchmarks, on all phones I had roms with lowest scores gave the best performance.
[Huawei P10 Accessories] olegfusion:
Hi,

Just ordered some days ago Huawei P10, however couldn't find thread regarding accessories.

Found today Nillkin frosted shield is available, got some misunderstandings regarding Honor 8 pictures instead of P10, however fast email reply from support service dispelled my questions.

Here is the link to their product: http://nillkin.org/index.php?route=product/product&path=113_141_838&product_id=4833
[Huawei P10 Accessories] dh3lix:
Great! Thx for sharing! Was just searching for it ^^
[Huawei P10 Accessories] Bumblesquach:
Cheers
[Huawei P10 Accessories] c411umuk:
Mine arrived a couple of days ago, but as I was away it's only just been re-delivered. Sorry about the image quality; My Galaxy Tab S 8.4" never did take the best pictures, hence my recent purchase of the P10.

I received two cases with my P10; The standard plastic one, and the Huawei fabric cover case. I'm not a fan of the cover case so I'd been using the transparent plastic one which did it's job remarkably well when the phone fell out of my bag onto tarmac from waist height. Not a scratch on the phone itself.

This Nillkin case feels much nicer in the hand; Slightly softer and grippier due to the textured back.

Also included was a screen protector, which I haven't used.

I paid 250THB for the case (including delivery); Approximately $7.
[Huawei P10 Accessories] wk0308:
FYI, Im using SPIGEN Rugged armor, it feels good tho
[Huawei P10 Accessories] PedjaB:
Best case imo hands down, had same one for my previous phone Z3 and i had to get it for my new P10, that feel in hand is just superb
[Huawei P10 Accessories] c411umuk:
I also bought the Nillkin synthetic case. It's slimmer in design, a ***** to remove and offers no screen protection (money well spent), but prefer the frosted shield overall.
[Huawei P10 Accessories] kms108:
I kind of like the natural line TPU case from Nillkin, i usually get it for all my phones, I will get one during my visit to china shenzhen.
[Huawei P10 Accessories] nagelo:
i bought a white one from the nillkin store for 13.07€ (incl shipping) on 29/04/2017 which arrived about 2 weeks later. i'm very satisfied with the quality. i accidently dropped my phone 2 times since arrival and the case absorbed the fall very well. the only adverse material effect is that the white will loose color when carrying your phone at your pants pocket every day. i'd recommend to buy another color.

Unfortunately, i found out lately that you get the same product for half the price. Find it here:

https://goo.gl/VHIKdV

Have fun ;)
[Sony Xperia XA Questions & Answers] [Xperia XA user]:
I'm looking for a kernel that supports doubletap2wake for peregrine running resurrection remix (android 7.1.1)
[Sony Xperia XA Questions & Answers] rrvuhpg:
Ask here: https://xdaforums.com/moto-g/help/

Be careful next time, you are on XA forums here and you need to ask in Q&A threads please.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] Bill R:
Does anyone have a copy of the stock recovery? I'm trying to upgrade to b150 (both automated via the setting menu and manually by secret menu) but every time it tries to flash the firmware, the phone just reboots to TWRP and sits there.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] divineBliss:
The directions you should be following have a copy of the stock recovery, don't they? If not, post a link to those directions.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] Bill R:
The first attempt was not following a guide. It was by going into the AT&T Software Update settings applet (my phone is on b140 and b150 was downloaded this way). That would start to load the update, reboot the phone into TWRP and then sit there. Subsequent booting into the OS would only re-attempt to install the update which would again reboot to TWRP.

After recovering my phone from a pre-update backup I tried, somewhat, following this method:

https://xdaforums.com/android/development/guide-how-to-update-b130-to-b140-b150-t3555254

I was able to install the stock b140 image from my SD card but where it said TWRP would be gone, mine still had it. Attempting the secret menu would start the firmware update which would, again, boot to TWRP and sit there.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] divineBliss:
The stock ROMs in that guide thread should have stock recovery images. Just restore one of those stock recovery images using TWRP. Does your phone still have root?
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] Bill R:
I checked when you asked and surprisingly it does not. I'm surprised because I thought I re-installed it when I flashed the b140 ROM from that thread.

I'll try again this evening.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] divineBliss:
Also, if you followed the rooting guides, you should have your own copy of the stock recovery in your first TWRP backup.
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] clsA:
The roms do NOT include Stock Recovery or any recovery for that matter ...Roms don't flash recovery (none that I have ever flashed anyway)

If you need B140 Stock recovery it's here B140.Stock.recovery.img

The Guide kind of assumes you just did the B130 to B140 update and you already have stock recovery installed

and yes if your phone was B140 when you rooted it you should already have your own stock backup of B140
[Huawei Ascend XT Questions & Answers] Bill R:
I have to confess to a case of cranial flatulence. I had made a stock recovery backup. I'll proceed to banging my head on my desk now.

Back to business. So, after breaking my phone three times today, I finally got it back to the stock b140 (H1611C07B140) from the other thread and I'm ready to try the firmware upgrade again. I still have TWRP on it though so I'm wondering if I should reinstall the stock recovery first before trying the firmware upgrade. The other thread states that the b140-to-b150 firmware should overwrite the recovery but for me every time I do the firmware it boots to TWRP and sits there.