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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Yeah your right se0siris, it didn't seem so at the time, but reading back my thread title does give off the wrong impression. I'll get something sorted out...

I know people aren't angry with me (or at least I hope not), and I, too, am angry at HTC for this issue, but watching movies is something I like doing, and am sure other people like doing too, so I just wanted to make people aware that it can be done (even if you have to do it a specific way, using a specific thing, whilst saying a specific magic word, and jumping up and down in a specific way, in a specific location :D)

And at least I've provided help to one person, which, at the end of the day, makes it all worth while :)

EDIT: I've added a BIG BOLD Subtitle to stop people getting the wrong impression.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
All my movies are resized to 320*240.

It's indeed a bit of a workaround, but then again, smaller movies = less space = more movies ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] princeasi:
I tried it, and yes it is a nice workaround!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Brilliant way of putting it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Re-encoding always seemed to me to be a pretty obvious workaround for the problem. Certainly, I've never bothered to drop a 750mb movie on my SD card... Not when I can drop 2 or 3 in that space after a couple of hours!

Mind you, some movies still have problems... Especially if there's a lot of screen action going on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
I agree, However simple things are often missed.

Regarding some movies still having problems... I've never had an issue.. But saying that, I do ensure all my movies are .avi (which I do anyway, regardless of whether its for the Kaiser, cos i can fit 4 or 5 .avi's on to a DVD and watch them on the TV if need be), and all are shrinked using Ashampoo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
I am very against re-encoding. i had a zune and I HATED how you had to rencode all my stuff just to watch it on the device.

That was partially the reason I sold it and bought this device, now I'm just hoping for a fix on the driver issue so that it will be justified.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thomassster:
Now how much faster is encoding a movie so it's big enough to fit on the main memory compare to placing a movie on the SD? Don't have the time to test, but if someone knows...please share your experience. If I was to watch movies on my tilt, I prefer to be smooth quality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] -haze-:
Yea, I am in the process of converting some of my DVDs also. I'm going to try the programs you mentioned because I'm currently using Aimersoft DVD Ripper and even at 320X240, I'm getting 900 MB files :eek:

One related question:

What do I change the buffer settings to on the Core Media Player? It's telling me I need to change them but I don't know what values to put in.

Thanks in advance,

-HAZE-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Shikyo:
Why doesn't everyone just use orb? It runs on the desktop with all of your video and music. Connect to your network with wifi and log into your orb account. Set the bitrate to whatever you find acceptable, I usually stay at between 320 and 480kbps. Then select the video you want to watch. Orb does the transcoding on the fly and I think it looks as good as reencoded movies when I'm at home and still very acceptable when I'm away from home on 3g.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Added some beffuer settings which may help...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Steve-C:
(Applause) Yep, thats why my memory card is full of Ebooks & MP3's, not videos.

Personally, I use windows media encoder with custom settings that I setup way back in the day that I had an Ipaq 5450. The videos play, full screen, just as well now as they did several years ago when I made them. I don't expect perfect video quality because my settings were based more on the size rather than the quality side of the scale. This was due to the fact that the onboard memory was laughable, and a 512mb card was more back then than a 4gb one today.

But my question to you is re the end file. I currently have my settings churning out video files of around 28MB per 45 mins of video. But Windows Media Encoder is blooming slow on my laptop (it's not spec'd for multimedia stuff really). What size file would you get for 45mins of video, and how long does the process take, start to finish?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Steve-C:
:eek::eek:

I've used DVD Decripter previously to rip the raw DVD data the AutoGK to encode back to avi. Its not a quick process (4-5 hours), but my laptop only has a 1.86GHz Pentium M processor and I suspect this may be the reason for the slowness. But it does result in movie length, near DVD .avi files of 700MB. Have a seach on Google for this software, it's all freeware.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Wam7:
I think you'll find that the free PocketDivXEncoder http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ or the paid for version Lathe http://www.omniquiti.com/store.php (both created by the same people) is ideal for your purposes.

Both use Mencoder for the conversions. I actually don't use either as I use Mencoder manually but these are one of, if not the best conversion options for PPC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ericc191:
I use Pocket DivX Encoder. It works great! I haven't tried it with Vista, but I would assume it works. You can set the memory size, video size(320-240), quality, and type.

Here is the link PocketDivXEncoder
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Steve-C:
Thanks for that! Tried this, and I can get the same results as Windows Media Encoder, but it allows me to queue up files for batch converting. Normally I do one file at a time and it's painful. This one I queued up 11 files and just left the program run in the back ground. They were all done by morning! Excellent stuff! :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
It seems that Vista doesn't like Pocketdivxencoder very much, it keeps crashing when trying to convert.

Too bad, looked good...

Now I use DVDx to rip movies from DVD to the correct size in avi (takes about as long a the length of the movie).

And I use Virtual Dub to resize owned avi movies to 320 * 240 (takes about 20 minutes for a 1h30 movie).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Shafty:
It will work on Windows Vista!!! Follow this link: http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/

Then select the "test" mirror dated 2007. This version (0.3.96) works on Vista.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
Aha! That would be nice. I'll try it this evening when I get home. Thanks for the info!

Last time I tried it was about a good month ago. I'll let you know if all goes well :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ericc191:
The other one works too. I tested it on my friends PC. When it gives the error, just ignore it and continue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bjur:
I don't know if it's possible but I would like to get HD movies or HDTV files to work on my TyTN II. Is it strong enough to do that?

Where do I find codec for AC3, AAC and H264?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but is there really a need for HD movies on a QVGA screen? After all, HD was invented to keep good quality on Larger Screens (42inch, 50inch, etc.). Having HD movies on a tiny screen seems abit strange? :)

If you follow the encoding settings from either myself or anyone else in this post, I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with the results...:D

And if I remember correctly, TCPMP should come with all the codecs you require. If not, you can always download extra codecs for it, Google will be your saviour in that area...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bjur:
1. :) Well the only reason for that was to test if it was able to. However I really need the AC3 codec though. I found a package for the althema device, which contained AC3, AAC and H264, but it can also be used for TyTN right?

2. Pocketdivxencoder is only used for divx to divx different outcome and not from DVD to divx right?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Wam7:
At the moment you have no chance of playing H.264 stuff on the TyTN II even if you drop the bitrate right down to <300 kbps. It's a shame really as anything encoded with x264 looks really good which means you can have low bitrate stuff around 200 kbps and it still looking very sharp but the file size would be relatively very small.

Not sure why you need AC3 either as that's mainly for 5.1 sound, but if you do I think Coreplayer or TCPMP supports it. AAC is very good though as it is much, much better than mp3 at low bitrates which in turn helps to keep down the size of the file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Working Well for me.

Hi Bjur.

Yes the codecs you found in the Athena forum are one and the same codecs for all WM devices. I use them myself on my TyTN II. AC3 support in TCPMP is good if you download ripped DVD's (torrents) and don't wish to reencode.;)...regardless of 5.1 surround sound.

What I have found to get me the best results on the Kaiser and the X7500 is to encode HD material straight to Divx or Xvid for what is noticeably clearer than anything else I have seen on pocket PC's (and yes it is far clearer than encoding a DVD!!) or encode straight into MP4 as this is natively accelerated by the 'driverless' Qualcomm processor and yields results that Coreplayer can only 'claim' to be capable of.:)

Try encoding to MP4 at 384kbps @ 320x240 for Video and 64kbps 44.1Khz for sound (AAC) and then play this in Coreplayer or TCPMP. It will look very good....but if you study the quality, you will find some pixelation in dark or fast scenes. In contrast, play the same file in Windows Media Player and see what appears to be High Definition :) on the same screen....with no visible faults in the quality.

Give it a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
No CorePlayer does not support it. Why would people need AC3 on a mobile device ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
I think it's just to save some re-encoding time... as most .avi's use the AC3 codec. But it's true... it does seems a bit pointless.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Read before commenting...Please!!

Audio and Black Sun. No offense people, but if you care to read through at least the last 3 posts of any thread, it might just help you not look so stupid.

I clearly stated that some people download ripped DVD's (torrents) which are usually encoded to 5.1 for those who want the next best thing to DVD's in terms of sound.

These files (big as they are - 700-900 Mb's) play perfectly well in most PPC's with a fast processor WITHOUT the need to re encode.

Therefore: If you have a huge memory card, you could just load up a few movies without the hassle of encoding and associated wait times.:)

Hope that wasn't too sarcastic, but seriously, I've been reading through some of your threads and some of you speak like your an Authority on the subject and believe me, I'm not....I'm just a long-term enthusiast for the past 10 years and you guys don't half talk some crap!

Meinnesys can teach us all a few tricks from the stuff I've read and I don't know him either, but he's not as cocky as some of you.

Like I said no offense intended, just speaking my mind.

P.S. TCPMP supports AC3 via a plug-in and Coreplayer 'supposedly' will support it some time later this year (according to Dan 'Betaboy') once they have secured a license for it. (The AC£ plug-in was never officially released..hehe).

And Audio, most AVI's are not encoded with AC3 for sound at all!! Only ripped DVD's. Most people us all sorts of sound codecs like MP3's or AAC etc....see that's the type of thing I'm talking about. I know you these things, but you don't think before you speak and could be misleading some newbies who rely on this forum for accurate information.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] briggs81:
So i guess my 1.7gig Transformers movie isn't exactly optimal size is it.. lol.. now i do have perfect quality pretty much, smooth animation in heavy action scenes, blacks look good, etc. I don't have a lot on my 6gig card so i don't mind the size. i have 1 movie, 5 episodes of stargate atlantis, 3-4 episodes of family guy and 3 youtubeized episodes of transformers cartoon plus a whack of mps, a bunch of cabs and i think thats 5/6th of space used up.

I think my transformer movie is at a 1500 bitrate. the others are lower i think, 1200 maybe, and that was after experimenting for hours, days, etc (slow ripping process, until i discovered i could rip part of a chapter which took 5 minutes so icould then test the quality!

I will try some other settings posted here though. My biggest problem was with sound.

I opted to purchase MagicDVD as I didn't have a ripping program. I was going to use one of the free pocket pc ripping/converting ones but didnt have much luck (probably because of my lack of knowledge at that time), but i also

wanted somethign to just rip straight dvds for my friend.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Read Before You Post!

Mackaby007 - Please forgive my "Big-headedness", but this is (dare I say) my thread, and if I want to give my opinion to others, regardless if it's been said before, I will. This is called "discussing", not "looking stupid". Arguing with someone who is trying to help, that's stupid.

EDIT: Also, regarding the AC3 encoding, when ripping DVD's, most of the time (not all the time) people will keep the AC3 encoding, as this is the full 5.1 surround sound. It's rare that I ever hear of people ripping DVD's and choosing a different coding method (such as MP3), as this is known to lose Audio quality.

And I am aware there are plenty of torrent's which will use this MP3 Audio codec, so the download size is small, however, talking about using torrent's tends to get certain individual's a bit "On-Edge", as I'm sure you're aware of the massive legal debates taking place about them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
And right you are :)

Even if my Kaiser plays avi files in their original size, I would still resize them to 320*240 because of the space they take away. Therefore I find this an interesting thread, because it's a time-consuming process.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
That's just rediculous. I have a 4GB SD card, and I could easily drag a few tv shows and movies over to that size card to watch on the go. Instead, I have to sit down and convert the files for 2 hours just like I have an iPod or other crappy software bloated/loaded mp3 player.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
To be fair... not everybody has large SD cards. I'm sure there are many people who still use the 1GB card that came with the phone. In which case, converting is a MAJOR positive. And as described earlier in the thread, converting does not take 2 hours...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
Mine didn't come with any SD card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Peace....

Happy time wasting.:) Each to their own I guess. Just remember what the makers of the great software you're using (TCPMP or Coreplayer) are aiming for...and why. They are not aiming for best converters, instead they are aiming for best codec support so all formats can be played without the need for re-encoding.

Maybe we all should revert to independent CD ROM, DVD ROM, CD Burners, DVD Burners etc. Hahaha .....this wouldn't be progress, cost effective or efficient in terms of time..would it?

Forget the argument boys....you've obviously just entered the arena and think you know enough...and you are entitled to think and believe whatever you will.

Good luck in your quest.

As for the rest of you not so confident ones who are still humble enough to learn, like me..hehe, here are some really useful tips for ya.

Google for an application called Handbrake - it's the nuts for converting from non-protected DVD to MP4 (supported by your Qualcom chip - without improved or new drivers).

Get hold of DVDFab-Platinum as well to get past the encrypted DVD's you want to back up or convert for your Pocket PC.

Get Hold of 'Any Video Converter Professionl' if you're still new to all this and want the program to do everything for you. It's pretty darn good.

Last but not least visit http://www.videohelp.com/ and read up in the How to section to quickly learn all the basics or take your basic knowledge to the next level. Invaluable website for knowledge and free and commercial software for just this sort of thing.

Best of luck to you peeps.

P.S. Audio....sorry to have hi-jacked 'YOUR' thread.lol. But you're quite right in saying that you should be able to discourse in a thread you started. However, that doesn't automatically or in any other way give you the right to dismiss what others are saying. This I had observed from other threads were you had to be brought back down to earth as your authoritative way of expressing yourself was let down by your lack of knowledge, hence the reason why I was vaguely concerned that you may mislead newbies who require accurate info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Tell me about it. lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Apologies... that was just mine. eBay freak, I admit it :D

But without splitting hairs... as I stated, some people have smaller cards of just 1GB or 2GB. And instead of fitting 2 movies on, a simple converting session means you can store about 8 or 9. Possibly more.

Although you are persistent that you do not mean offence, you're not doing a very good job. I do not get "brought back down to earth". My answers in other threads are purely opinions and/or what I believe to be correct. I do not force any solutions or suggestions onto people, they are simply there for the taking. I advise what I use, and how I use it.

Or am I being stupid trying to help on a forum?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
I saw this on Pocketnow.com, and thought I post it.. Here's the link:

http://pocketnow.com/

Settings for Smoother Streaming Video Via TCPMP

Posted by Chuong Nguyen

Monday, January 14th at 10:42 AM

In an earlier post, we showed you how to load TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player) to watch streaming internet videos from sites such as YouTube and Google Video. However, if you are an owner of a Tilt/TyTN II, you may have noticed that the videos were choppy at best--videos would play for a few seconds, stop and buffer, play for another few seconds, buffer some more.

Our friends at AllShadow.com has posted some settings to help make video play back smoother. Here's what you need to do in TCPMP (taken from AllShadow.com):

1. From the main video screen press Options > Buffering > and double the number in the Normal Buffer Size field. Press Ok.

2. Back at the main video screen again press Options > Video > Video Driver and Select ‘GDI.'

I performed the above settings and videos just take a few seconds to buffer when you first play, but do not stop intermittently to buffer in between, which is a vast improvement on how videos played before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Absolutely not Audio. And much respect to you for keeping your cool and admittedly trying to help where it matters. My apologies to you.

@Bronx31 nice bit of info there mate. I'll try that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Audio:
Where does my anger come from?

Not to make this an anger management thread but apologies Mackaby... please accept this cool looking fellow as a gift.

:cool:

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
This info was copied and pasted..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
Seems like I already had it on my computer, but it gave me errors and refused te encode movies.

Now, very simple, I right clicked on it and ran it as an adminstrator and... all works well :)

Great! Thanks again!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] yasaar:
software

Hi guys i am a newbie so please forgive me if this software is old or its not what u guys are looking for or it has been posted hand vidoe converter pro

http://www.handobuddy.com/handovideo/index.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
But PocketDivxEncoder is free and your suggestion is not... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 246810:
Maccaby007,

I am one of these 'newbies' you mention. I've always converted small video/music clips using a free programme called 'super' on my computer, but I've always played around with it, not really knowing what the best bitrate setting is ect.

I'm in the middle of doing something at the moment, but is the software you mentioned free?

And oh, is the sotware you mentioned, like 'Handbrake' and 'DVD Fab platinum' what you use yourself? I couldn 't quite distinguish this as you don't seem to be up for converting videos, but are in favour of shrinking? Am I correct in think this?

I'm trying different options that more experienced members are using to see whats best

And I was wondering when converting how many frames per second to configure to. On wikipedia, I read that QVGA devices play at 15 frames per senconds.

I think I've found an AC3 plugin for windows mobile as well: http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/0.71/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Steve-C:
Just download PocketDivx (links on page 1 I think). I too have Super somewhere on this computer, but for ease of use, you really can't get much better that PocketDivx. No bitrate settings to play with, just a couple of quality sliders and gives you a preview option.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 246810:
Steve C,

When you open the programme pocketdivXencoder and you are asked to choose your device type, what do you choose? There isn't a specific model option or even a 'pocket pc' option.

One good thing about this software is that it just opens without having to install to your hardrive, thus saving space.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Steve-C:
Go to advanced options and select PDA (second from left), the for orientation I've got the PDA picture facing upright, so it plays properly when you open the keypad. I too like the 'it just runs' bit! No installation, no registry changes, no rebooting, just click and go! Personally I've found video set to 3 (scale is 1-12) and audio to 1 is good for file size v quality. 5 on video is great on the Kaiser (but files size is about 120mb for 45mins video)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 246810:
Okay. Thanks! Another good thing about this application is that it is both a conversion and shrinking software- 2 in one.

The programme has been freezing up on my new Vista laptop quite a bit, so I've had to close and reopen it a couple of times. I'll keep trying till I get a movie converted.

I also used that application that Audio recommended (Thanks Audio!), Ashampoo Movie Shrink and Burn 3. That worked perfectly, apart from the fact that it took about an hour to shrink and then another 45 minutes to copy it onto my 8GB storage card. I think I aged 10 years during the whole process lol Ashampoo is very easy to use as well as you simply input your file and type in a 'target size' of the converted video! The higher the 'target size' of the converted movie the better the quality of the movie and vice versa. It also allows you to split the movie in pieces.

Audio, also, your ""Manual A/V offset +/-" to '-270' causes for a person to appear to speak first and then the for the sound to come second. I take it this is the way you like it, but not me. I've changed it to '-200' and I'll see how it goes from there. Thanks!