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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lmbranco:
I like the fact that in core player forum they deleted the last post because it was complaining with the fact that they failed to deliver what they promised. Everybody was waiting for their self proclaimed solution to the problem to be announced during the CES on the 7th of January, but maybe they meant 2009 and not 2008. Whatever, i just hope that a better media player comes quickly so that we can forget all these lies from Betaboy and Core Player team. Don't promise what you cannot fulfill.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] badaccent:
A quick question: Is there any way to get a trial of CorePlayer? I could not find any hint on http://www.coreplayer.com/. I will not buy the player without evaluating it first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
not yet, sorry.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Martincyborg@gmail.com:
I am biting my nails off waiting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xmoo:
Let's all post, that they have failed to fix it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
I have the feeling everybody is making fu of us (HTC, Qualcomm, ...).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
CoreP........................
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RPG0:
Guys, did you read what i posted ? i even got slapped on the hand for saying again something that was already discussed.

I'll try again:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357457

if you don't click it, a summary: we'll get NOTHING, they will solve the Direct Draw problem that was making the Kaiser 3 times slower than other 400MHz devices, that's it, and ONLY IN COREPLAYER, not system wide. The new version will work on the Kaiser like it works on the TyTN I or Eten X500, for example, not, i repeat NOT faster.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lmbranco:
RPG0 i understood perfectly what you have said in your previous post and i also know that this CorePlayer fix will not solve our problems, but at least we will have a good enough video player for our super machine.

Don't get me wrong, but i paid good money for a machine that has failed my expectations and that is flawed, and i know that it's not Core Player's team fault, but they have found a way to do something and this might clear some people's mind, or show the way to a final destination, which is to have some nice drivers for our Kaiser processor.

I have given up all hope that HTC or Qualcomm are listening to us, and do you know why? Because as soon as HTC releases a new PPC with a new graphic chip and processor, most of the Kaiser owners will buy it and everybody will be happy. I will not be one of them, i will not buy anything else from HTC if they don't fix the problem.

thanks for your help nevertheless.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] amruths:
Even i have decided never to buy HTC again. How can they be so DEAF and not hear their customers.

But i have faith in our XDA DEVELOPERS' members to come up with a solution to all these problems
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RPG0:
BTW: the speed will be almost the same as currently using Raw Framebuffer mode

again: they fix a bug which made it slow, they don't optimize anything for the Kaiser

bah... i got pissed for being taken for a fool for posting that, when apparently EVERYBODY knows, even unborn children... and i keep seing this thread on the first page, so not everybody knows...

nvm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
I want to call HTC and complain, this is insane.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
I find it rather hard to believe that anyone was stupid enough to think it WOULD fix all the video problems. They never said they would do anything except enable smooth video playback within CorePlayer...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
Betaboy replied to this thread http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=640.0

stating the info will be posted about the new release tonight.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beta_boy:
Hey guys.... we have been swamped here at CES... I am gonna post an announcement on CorePlayer v1.2's availability tonight when we get back... but what we are announcing is that it will be available on all platforms in February and not right now as many have speculated. We have chosen February because of the initial UI changes we have been making to the CoreTheque interface based upon user feedback. This will make it more finger friendly and offload many of the icons atm onto menus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] qtek_metanol:
Very important theme

I think this thread should be moved at the General Discussion site's. I own a HTC Cruise /Orbit 2 which has the same hardware components and I concerned too.

Perhaps the moderator could move the thread to an accessible place for other users to find.

Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xmoo:
YES, finaly. But till febuari?? Hope till then HTC TyTN II new rom is out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] difflvl:
This whole core player thing was crap. Claiming one thing and now saying other things. Where is the release, I thought we were supposed to have it already? It was just SPAM to get publicity.

Whats that BS about announcing it at CES, you are not an exhibitor so why are you guys acting like you are one and will be releasing "news" at CES. Get real.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
Give them some credit. They never said they would release the V1.2 on CES. they would make an announcement.

I only hope that their solution will fit and might even be improved by other developer here on this site

And Betaboy will certainly react later on today - tomorrow as he mentionned here and on the Corcodec site
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rblover69:
quesiton why all this fuss over this player , running tcpmp v.81 changing the driver settings to GDI you get preety flawless video as it is, i see no player offering a better solution. I dont understand the fuss. The only vids i cannot play are ones encoded at a rediculous FPS which i have only been able to edit the FPS and get lag. But every DVD rip i download and put on my 8GB sd card tcmp v81 plays it flawless in GDI mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
@ rblover69...

You obviously don't do much emulation. The big problem for me is that we use the video to show customers smoke tests for engineered products. We also use the camera to record events & that is impossible because of the cameras extreme lag time. It's not just a problem for gaming high schoolers. It's a problem for anyone who is a serious user.

BTW... we bought 30 Kaisers a week ago. I sent an email to the sales guy @ AT&T, HTC America, HTC Corporate & Cingular Service @ HTC. Said we were returning all of them & going with Verizon because there are thousands of complaints & not one word from HTC or carriers about any possible solutions. Sales guy was panicked & he copied me on an email he then sent to his Hmgr. that was forwarded to the Cingular/HTC intermediate & I've been promised an answer by Thursday. I will post the email response when I get it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rblover69:
yea , emulation on my phone is not really priority but i do watch alot fo video on my phone. I mean i hvae 8GB cards full of it. I understand that there is a serious issue reguarding emulation due to lack of drivers in this device , that everyone can tell. But they have been things to make it sorta better to a miniscule scale. The camera lag i found was made more usable when i installed a new rom from dutty contaning a new camera version that made the camera alot more usable quality wise. I to use the camera and compared to the stock tilts its a far better expierience aswell.

However this cannot account for the issues with games

without any ati support i can def agree that running games or anything of that nature will def suffer without more support for accelarated drivers. My only point was that for just plain divx video play back with tcpmp using the GDI driver i found really good playback. OF course its horrid in raw frame mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Isaygarcia:
take a little of consience and think, we got our kaisers and paid for a phone that does ALL! no just for work, this thing has the neccesary hardware to do anything, the point here is, we paid for a COMPLETE PHONE, is like .. if you buy a new computer and they dont install drivers on it.. it just will be like ****..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
Or a car that can't drive over 75mph. Sure, you don't NEED it...but you feel gipped and didn't get the complete product.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Isaygarcia:
we do need those drivers we paid for it!!

**** **** **** ****!!! >.<!:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Isaygarcia:
huh... and if iis nothing... here in mexico we must pay more than the neccesare because of shipping.. and things like tax bla bla... >.<!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
You are the MAN, I would like to see them when you said that you want to give the Kaisers back. I await your response.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dan13l:
Actually RPG0, I apologise for my response in that other thread. I think I credited certain users on this forum with a bit too much intelligence, and you were absolutely right to try to clarify things again.

So, please accept my apologies :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
yeah I can't wait for this response.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
Neither I, though I presume we all await more info from CoreCodec now on their CES results regarding the upcoming Coreplayer release...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lusta1988:
release date

It's clearly stated in their forums that it will be released on the 21st of February!!!until then, we can just wait. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cproaudio:
does anyone know where corecodec located in CES?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
They're not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cproaudio:
according to them, sleuth and numerous mac blogs they are. they may not have a booth but they could be partnered up with another vender sharing booth like HTC at microsoft.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
There is a new release planned for Coreplayer V1.2 for Feb 21 following CoreCodec’s forum which would solve driver issues.

Find following Q&A on CoreCodec Forum which kinds of limits the euphoria created:

Q: Will AT&T Tilt/Tytn II users get the update that fixes the video playback performance in this release?

A: (Betaboy - founder CoreCodec) : For MPEG-4 video yes.

Seems there will be no full solution supporting AVI and MPEG :(

Guess we all hoped it would have been better news.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kareeem:
What! That's ridiculious. Most movies i watch are coded in avi!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] undac:
AVI is not a format, it's a container. Most oftenly containing MPEG-4 content.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
i am running 1.1.1 for a couple of weeks. it does help with the lack of drivers. i am impressed with 1.1.1. if 1.2 is better that 1.1.1 than hell ya i want it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
AVI files are, in most cases, MPEG-4 (Part 2) files. Read my related articles - I've elaborated on this stuff a lot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
1. there will be

2. you don't want to watch MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 isn't supported by CP (there isn't much point in playing back original MPEG-2 content (for example, non-transcoded DVD's) on any mobile hardware).

I REALLY recommend following my articles in the Wiki / the General forum / on my blog, I've elaborated on ALL these questions in SEVERAL of my articles.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Yeah, but doing that requires people to actually think for themselves instead of asking on here and getting spoonfed... :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
They all Lie!! CoreCodec CANNOT deliver!

Corecodec, namely betaboy or Dan all lie! They have been lying to us since before the first release of the Coreplayer. They claimed in their ads that it will support all video content (up to a resolution of 1080), but they have continually failed to provide compatibility with all video formats (as promised).

As far as I'm concerned, my money has been wasted with them (no big deal), but I hate being deceived. Coreplayer's success is strictly based on the great TCPMP realised and developed by Picard and with lots of help from the community.

CoreCodec, IMHO, have brought nothing relevant to the table that TCPMP was not already doing...except charge for the product now and give the end user less compatibility..i.e. no AC3 support (via plug-in in TCPMP). There's more I could say, but it's borderlining slander and that's not what this is about.

IMO it's best to stick to TCPMP with all plug-ins (Best all round compatibility...Period!) and use WMPlayer to watch wmv vids and MPEG-4 vids (as these will be natively accelerated by the in-built chip). If you don't believe me, encode an MPEG4 video at any bitrate and play it in WMP on your Kaiser or Tilt and see how clean the video looks. Then play it in Coreplayer using any video renderer of your choice and you will see that pixelation is still present!!

Therefore CoreCodec saying that they will only support MPEG-4 by February, only proves to me that they can only integrate the features of the in-built accelerator that is already supported by WMPlayer!

Oh, sorry, they will support the AVI container (which is limited in WMP), but it still defeats the object..No? If we have to re-encode our vids due to restrictions of Coreplayer, then it is not the all singing and dancing bit of kit CoreCodec hyped it up to be and we can get the same results from TCPMP and WMP without paying a red cent!

I sold my TyTN I because they couldn't support it (other members of the inter community eventually found a solution - not Corecodec). I sold my Athena (for different reasons), but they couldn't support that either. Now I have the TyTN II, same issue again.

Time they got real! They do very well indeed in producing the best software based rendering player on the market...Period. Yet not that much better than TCPMP.

Finally, software still is no match for dedicated hardware. We need both working together....and CoreCodec simply won't...can't deliver!

Sorry for the negativity people, but I've been following this supposed development of CoreCodec's Coreplayer since before it's release and invested in it immediately upon its release, but have been disappointed with. I always have TCPMP installed as a backup, in case I come across something that CorePlayer cannot handle.

Bottom line, I look at my investment to Corecodec as a thank you donation for the great TCPMP from its founder Picard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] duttythroy:
I havent seen you for awhile but truly said i use tcpmp to play all my files including watching youtube videos:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
Hey Dutty how's tricks? ;)

Yeah recently moved home etc....got me a Kaiser last week and just checking out the ROMs.:) Man, your ROMs are beautiful! Just installed your V3 last night...loving it too. But gonna try them all....See you around and keep up the excellent work.;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sendaris:
I agree fully with mackaby007, I paid for CorePlayer but they have done virtually nothing for the last year but reskin the old (free) TCMP. They don't even bother to post updates on their site anymore, all we get now is the occasional reply post in their forum stating nothing other than "keep waiting." Anyone considering buying CorePlayer put it off until these scammers actually release something solid, instead of leeching off TCMPs good name.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
Let me disagree. I've made some SERIOUS benchmarks and I can tell they did optimize for example AAC and H.264 playback. It, of course, isn't really apparent for casual users only looking at the feature list / GUI. But the engine itself has indeed been really enhanced.

If they do deliver in 1.2 / 1.3 what they have promised (RTSP / RTP, HE-AAC v2 support, subtitle (not just SMI) support, major enhancements in the Symbian version etc.), then, the changes will finally be pretty much visible.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Laurentius26:
Mmmm... reading your blog hehe...

1 GHz Qualcomm CPU in future handsets & coming Nokia N810-killer?

Nice one :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jackleung:
I keep a copy of Coreplayer just because of AVRCP support. Otherwise, I really could not find any benefit over TCPMP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] difflvl:
I knew it was BS the second they said we will announce at CES.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
CorePlayer 1.2 will support all formats on the Tilt flawlessly, we have got everything working by writing a special video renderer except for larges jpeg yet. Some ARMv6 optimizations are added as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlackSun_CC:
You are funny :) Of course we support AVC decoding up to Full HD (1080P), but your small device does not support that. Our desktop versions of CorePlayer play them flawlessly. Figure that you need a very fast computer to play 1080p videos ? A dual core is even recommended. And you thought an handled device could play them ? :) Haha !

If sincerly you think we have brought nothing compared to TCPMP, that is because you only see what you want to see. CorePlayer is different, and while you are centered on your Tilt, and only that, the world around is also based on Palm, Symbian, OSX, Linux, and even the iPhone, etc. And we ported CorePlayer to that. We have wrote our own decoders, we have done a lot of optimizations, added features, added a nice look, a media library, and lot of other things. Just don't be centered on your own device, it is not the only one on earth you know ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
1080i/p is only supported by CoreAVC - the desktop decoder. And decoding only works on 3+GHz CPU's (or Core2Duo's).

Don't expect a PDA's meagre, slow CPU to be able to decode even 720p videos... not even a 624 MHz Xscale can correctly decode VGA H.264 videos using all the features of the standard (not the simple Baseline) profile...

BTW, this has all been explained in my H.264 Bible.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dizzy33:
The DELL Axim X50V (624 Mhz XScale, VGA display) can decode a VGA video (640x480) with no lags ! I know it for sure because I had one.

I never had to convert my AVI files to read them with my X50V, and that's what we should be able to do with a Qualcomm on board ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
i always prefer to convert my files (but still look good) just to save space.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mr4000:
My Mio A701 could render 720P video files at 70% of the original playback speed. Of course this is not usable, but I just tested to get an idea of the actual maximum performance. It was using a xscal at 520Mhz.. qualcomm should be better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mackaby007:
CoreCodec? They can't bring anything to the table either!!

Black Sun...we're not at Corecodec now and frankly your tone sounds less professional now that you're not on your home turf, but anyway.

I'm not as stupid as you seem to be, by implying that I would expect a little Pocket PC to handle High definition content. Duh. What I was referring to (Meinnesys, you got me wrong here too) was what I said...a resolution of 1080, not interlaced or progressive!

This message even came on Corecodec mobile when I tried to play some vido content on it (words to this effect)...

"Coreplayer does not support resolutions beyond 1080...". Now admitted I may have slightly got that wrong..I didn't write the program..you guys did Black Sun.:) So you should know what I'm referring to. Certainly not HD on a 400Mhz CPU!

Haha you really do make me laugh. If this is the best a representative of Corecodec can say, then it's no wonder that Corecodec can never fix the problems we encounter!

Firstly, I not only focus on my precious TyTN II alone, you corecodec have failed in providing acceptable playback, IMHO, in the last 3 devices I have had, namely: TyTN I, HTC Athena, and now TyTN II. Hence the reason why I have nothing positive to say about your software.

2ndly, these requests started when I first bought my TyTN I and you released Coreplayer shorty afterwards and it has never performed substantially better than TCPMP. You have implemented many nice and fance features (which Corecodec said from the beginning they would not do, as they don't want to create bloatware like other developers, but instead want to produce a player that can play all types of video content.) This can all be substantiated via posts on your old website...oh you've changed that now haven't you.

3rdly whenever I complain about Corecodecs dishonesty and false promises, I am promptly banned and after re-instated, am warned when speaking the truth about your inability to sort these issues out.

All you guys had to say is ..."we honestly can't put this right for you because don't know how to..therefore we can only support our software but not support software for your hardware." There you go! What was so hard about that??!

Good for you!! But why would I care about your successes with other O/S's? Of course I'm only interested in my own device! Twit!! Do I have a vested interest in Corecodecs success or own any shares with you people ? No!!

Anyway enough time wasted on you people...all you're interested in is making money, not supporting your customers like Picard did when it was free and open source.

Have you noticed how quiet your forums are over at Corecodec these days? Take a look at your business practices and customer relations....that's just as important as producing a product.

P.S. I couldn't give a monkeys if you guys ban me again either, as I get the same results with TCPMP with Plug-ins and if these drivers ever come to light for the Tilt/Kaiser, performance will be way better than what Corecodec can offer over the next 5 years!!