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[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Best option for IQ is to take .dng and process quickly in Snapseed, it's amazing the difference.

Take a photo in manual mode with Raw on in settings, thus a jpeg and a .dng are saved, then edit the .dng in Snapseed, which saves it as a jpeg. Then compare the 2 jpegs (the LG processed one and the Snapseed one from the converted .dng) at 100%, you'll see a big difference, the converted one looks way more natural without the harsh processing. Obviously Snapseed using way different conversion/processing to the built in LG app. see attached, left is the Snapseed jpeg, right is the LG jpeg, the one on the right looks very painted and over-sharpened (unnatural) compared to the Snapseed one, this is at 100%
[LG G6 Real Life Review] ERosado88:
Please [DELETE] this reply was made by mistake.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] ERosado88:
Camera its been a excellent performer for me, here's some shoots on auto and manual mode HDR On in auto.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] a23bed:
Just got my H870DS.

Primarily because of the wide angle camera (& Quad DAC)

Here's my initial findings.

The main camera/lens is good.

From the exif data the lens is reported to be 4.1mm, LG site states, it's equvilent to 71° angle of view.

Doing some maths, that's equivalent to 31.5mm (wide angle) on a full frame 35mm camera system and the sensor crop factor works out to x7.7

The wide camera/lens is a bit soft.

Exif data shows it to be 2.09mm, LG site states it's equvilent to 125°,

that's 11.7mm (ultra wide angle) on a full frame 35mm camera system and the sensor crop factor of x5.6.

So that means they have diffrent sensors (needs confirmation).

I read/see some rewiers, complain the wide angle camera has no auto-focus, doesn't need it.

Again doing some maths, if we assume the lens is locked at infinity, from 34cm (approx 1ft) to the moon and beyond, everything will be in focus.

Also as reported by an earlier (H870DS) user, I also noticed a magenta shift in the raw DNG photos (jpeg are fine), in both cameras.

I also tried the Adobe Lightroom app, raw shooting, same outcome.

I wonder if this is a problem just on the H870DS, or others have it.

I've edited some in the phone with Snapseed, and on my full blown PC CameraRaw/calibrated monitor sytem, still see the issue.

Still testing, will try some shots in the studio with grey cards, etc.

Seeing it on both cameras/sensors gives me hope that it's a software problem and can be fixed with an update.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
They do have 2 different sensors. The V20 and V10 also have 2 different sensors.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] rubiicon59:
Wow. Doing some maths.

You realise it's a smartphone with built in cameras?

Surely if you're that serious about photography - as your post suggests - you would buy a dedicated camera?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] REN3G8:
I get a lot of complements on how good the pictures taken with the G6 look, however yes... I've noticed after zooming or cropping pictures that there is some noise on some areas, however most pictures taken have been in AUTO mode.

Will have to start messing with the settings in manual mode and see what I can come up with.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] kabirjedi:
Hello!

LG G6 wide/normal photos with HDR full automata mod:

https://app.box.com/s/39isy4cqgijccudawv645suq5z9ruxvq
[LG G6 Real Life Review] a23bed:
You might not have of guessed it, but I do have a bulky DSLR kit.

But as the saying goes "the best camera is the one with you".

I would never buy a phone for it's photo capabilities, prior to using the LG G4, I have changed my mind.

attached pic what shot on LG G4 raw, processed in phone with Snapseed, xda strips out the exif and resizes it.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] rahulsuneja:
I can not agree more with you on the G4 part. I have had it since Q3 in 2015 and I am still unable to part from it. That phone was way ahead of its time with its cameras both rear & front. I got a G6 but returned it due to its bad front camera. I've been using the S8+ now, it has been 2 weeks. Somehow, even this one doesn't beat the G4's front camera resolution & AF performance. I used to buy my devices based on processors, RAM, developer support and what not. The G4 changed that for me.

Coming to the G6, I do miss the wide angle lens and in some scenarios the G6 does manage a better white balance (sharpness & artifact levels are pretty worse on G6) than the S8+ but overall, the sensor on the S8+ is just a tad better. Definitive price gap between the devices too!
[LG G6 Real Life Review] a23bed:
When I was using the G4, I couldn't believe how good it was, made me stop carrying around my Canon G16 camera. The photo in the previous post is a good example, with it's long exposure, difficult lighting, etc, manual mode ofcourse, couldn't be done previously.

I do agree with you, the G6 feels a slight step back from the G4, camera wise, beacuse I usually shoot manual & RAW and I'm seing some strange magenta shift in the DNGs, but I'm sticking with it for the time being, still testing. I still like the wide camera, although a bit soft.

I won't be criticising phone cameras anymore, generally most of these phones produce fantastic images with good light in Auto jpeg, no wonder point & shoot camera sales are down, but they won't be replacing the DSLR, soon.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] The-Last-Hylian:
I've seen this, the RAWs have a purple tinge. Hope that it can be removed via SW update.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] kabirjedi:
Use raw therapy on PC. Purple problem solved.

No G6 issue its adobe...
[LG G6 Real Life Review] picia89:
I am disappointed with the camera quality. There are a lot of noises even at tle lower ISO. Full size picture looks even a little bit worst than this uploaded by me.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Actually besides a little color noise its not that bad, what is the exif data (shutter speed, iso etc.) see the attached photo from the iPhone 7 at 40 iso, huge amounts of noise and detail smearing... the G6 photo is way better.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] picia89:
f = 1.8

Exposure = 1/33 sec.

ISO-50

Currently I have also Galaxy S6 and I compared a lot of photos from both of them. LG is not so bad. There are just a few situations where LG performs worst. In opposite, sometimes LG is a much better than Samsung. In LG camera, many photos are to sharp and it looks like in comics (trees on the "10l" picture). I attached a few samples.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Someone really pouched that iphone photo.

Iphones can take great photos.

These 2 were taken with a iPhome 5s, no editing at all, straight from the camera and taken with the native camera app. These two are actually screen shots of a video collection of iPhone photos, so the actual photos are even better than this. I didn't take these.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
The G6 is known to have some luminance noise even ay low ISO settings, so a little noise, especially in uniform colored areas is not bad.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Not pouched, have hundreds more from my iPhone 7,which show the same issues, and is part of the reason I dumped it.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
even at the small size, one can see lots of smearing in the lighted areas of the photos you posted but without 100 resolution its difficult to see, check at 100% make some crops and post those. See attached another photo from 6s (at low 40 iso) with a 100% crop, so much detail smearing, looks horrible, G6 is way better than that.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] mhill1986:
Chiang Mai?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
Bad quality... Surehttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5958742d255d4/20170524_165812_HDR~2.jpg?

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5958741a513ce/20170524_165517_HDR~2.jpg?

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[LG G6 Real Life Review] monkeydrufy:
Sorry guys,

what are the best video and camera settings?

I use always AUTO, but maybe changing some settings I can get a better photo/video

thanks
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
The pictures i just uploaded were on auto with HDR on
[LG G6 Real Life Review] fvknl:
Front Facing Camera Quality

Hey, what do you guys think of the front facing camera? It's $hit on mine, what is yours like? I've only just got the phone... am I missing something? I thought it was built around quality with the focus on the cameras!
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Ali Mirza:
Don't know why would LG reduce from 8mp to 5mp to the front camera? Use rear wide angle camera and use it for selfies.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
Where's that city? It's beautiful. Photography is on par with DSLR for me.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] fvknl:
Yeah true! Good idea, thanks ?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] lg3FTW:
Looks great until you zoom in at all or print them. Sadly I love the phone camera is not impressing me. One of my better shots but still noisy cloud
[LG G6 Real Life Review] yellman:
My comparsion of stock LG camera app vs Camera Super Pixel

https://ibb.co/drBc7v
[LG G6 Real Life Review] murok9042:
Change resolution for FFC to 3.7 MP (16:9 ratio)
[LG G6 Real Life Review] lg3FTW:
Why would you not use the 5mp 4:3 and just use the wide when needed? Simple question only
[LG G6 Real Life Review] murok9042:
[MENTION=6993461]lg3FTW[/MENTION]

Yeah you could but the 16:9 ratio is the generic form factor for today's televisions and screens. Also you don't have big black bars.

Sent from my LG G6 (H870)
[LG G6 Real Life Review] lg3FTW:
. But I find that most selfies are posted in IG or snapchat which use a square of 4:3 most the time anyhow correct?

I don't use either one of those apps so can't 100% say. Also I've found that when printing photos which most rarely do. You have to crop the 16:9 down anyhow so you'll lose parts of your photo. Just my thoughts
[LG G6 Real Life Review] jetsetwilly:
Chester in the UK

The other one is of Quarry Bank Mill in Styal. They don't look that good in the XDA app but look great on screen. Here's some more...
[LG G6 Real Life Review] singhnsc:
Photos are on par with the Pixel and S8 Plus. iPhone does not even comes close.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] jetsetwilly:
I have to say, the photos don't look good at all when uploaded to XDA. The actual photos when viewed on my laptop are excellent; even the photos from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x are outstanding. XDA must compress the crap out of them; they're all pixelated.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
Not so bad for me, the last one is still gorgeous enough on XDA premium app.

Somewhere near Google + .

Not as good as Flickr but still I like it.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Allen Robinson:
allen

Hi

Welcome to this forum site, here you can find lots of thing, I suggest you for your problem you have to contact with your friends, I m not able to give you answer right now, sorry for that.

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[LG G6 Real Life Review] jetsetwilly:
Manchester Fire Station Building (wide angle lens)
[LG G6 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
This time it is pixelated.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] pratikpareek:
Very blurry and pixelated photos.

Hi

I got a new LG G 6 4 days back.

The picture quality is pathetic. Its blurry and pixelated 99.99% pictures clicked in all conditions are going wrong, day light, artificial, auto manual, dual cam, single cam.

any idea what is wrong.

I have read many reviews and videos and am sure that pic quality is bound to be better but unable to figure out.

Currntly using PIXEL XL and iphone 6s.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
post some samples and we can try assist.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] CROrION:
Some of my shots. Very nice camera

https://flic.kr/p/VkGPEp

https://flic.kr/p/VkGPt2

https://flic.kr/p/Vi3oob

https://flic.kr/p/WvGp21

https://flic.kr/p/VkGS1g

https://flic.kr/p/WvGpwQ

https://flic.kr/p/WvGreN

https://flic.kr/p/WvGse3

https://flic.kr/p/VkGXCZ

https://flic.kr/p/WvGt5G

https://flic.kr/p/WvGtqS

https://flic.kr/p/WzhwZ8

https://flic.kr/p/WvGufY

https://flic.kr/p/WjjvMG

https://flic.kr/p/VYXBcU

https://flic.kr/p/WvGw6w

https://flic.kr/p/WnANyM

https://flic.kr/p/WnAPdn

https://flic.kr/p/WjjzBL
[LG G6 Real Life Review] sojkin:
Did you get the HD-870 od HD-870DS model?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] pratikpareek:
LGH870DS
[LG G6 Real Life Review] sojkin:
Do you still have that issue or is it corrected with some update?

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So it really looks like only HD-870DS phones are making bad photos :/
[LG G6 Real Life Review] pratikpareek:
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[LG G6 Real Life Review] kabirjedi:
Try again....
[LG G6 Real Life Review] tnevermind:
Just a quick comparison between S8 G6 5X

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tklicyesoc9o5dr/AAA4SovTNKEejERzhGM9-ixGa?dl=0

Who is who

S8 = 1,6,c,f,h,hh

G6 = 2,7,a,e,i,ii

5X = 3,5,b,g,k,kk
[LG G6 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
Why do you say that? I am happy with mine.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] sojkin:
I said it casue it looked like only 870DS users were complaining about quality. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what came to my mind.

btw. I'm also waiting for my new 870DS HK to arrive. Maybe it was good choice ;)
[LG G6 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
The photo posted is not as good as the original for image precision but I found the colors to be very good and true to life. That's my opinion.

Also the sound is exceptional on the 870DS, makes sense to buy a good headphone.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
you probably have an issue with the device.. I get great photos.

What are your settings?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] pratikpareek:
I bought from amazon India, they are arranging a replacement. But the problem is the new phone shall also be HD-870DS.

Is it that all HD-870DS are having issues?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Wow, great comparison, thanks, its quite close, I thought the tree with the block of flats was interesting, the G6 does best there (its foliage detail and color is easily the best, with the coins the differences are negligible (they are all good essentially), the low light desk shot, the S8 is cleanest (G6 would have been as clean if HDR was used imho), in the indoor day scene the G6 does best, a tiny bit more processed look though but the detail is good. the S8 shot has a yellow cast which looks bad and the 5X looks the most natural (less processed). The night scene the S8 is cleanest but G6 has best detail (look at tree foliage). But if you'd used HDR mode on the G6 (think S8 does it by default) the result would look similar to S8 (cleaner but less detail). 5X is far worse that the G6 and S8. Overall I think its the G6 that does best overall. Many thanks for taking the time to do all this, much appreciated :)
[LG G6 Real Life Review] jetsetwilly:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156541246@N07/shares/q4903A
[LG G6 Real Life Review] sojkin:
I don't know, hope not. It looked like only HD-870DS owners were complaining about photo quality.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] jetsetwilly:
Auto on all.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] :
IPhone 7 was regarded as the best camera phone of 2016. IPhone 7 user praising G6 camera gives me confidence to buy this beast. I am already in love with LG V20 camera low light performance and manual mode. I have used HTC 10 for nearly 9 months. When using Pro mode it was difficult to analyze or judge the end result. However with LG V20 it is very easy. You get what you want. Infact it is good for amateur photographers.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] xlr8me:
I thought pixel was best of 2016.

Anyways ..
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Pixel is really the best, there are threads on DPReview showing comparisons between Pixel and iPhone 7 and it's an easy win for Pixel, iPhone 7 has very heavy processing and NR, photos look great on screen but look at them on a decent size monitor and detail is all mush.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] flyingswan23:
Worse indoor photo quality.

Me and my wife are LG G4 users for 2.5 years now, we wanted an upgrade and we purchased LG G6.While checking it inside the store we felt the cameras to be very good. Once we started using it inside home ,under fluorescent light the videos turned out to be grainy ,blurry and less sharp. We usually use mobile to take videos of our son and this camera is worse than 2.5 year old LG G4.We are totally disappointed as the exchange policy of the store is one of the worst in the world which will make me lose 30% of the cost. This is the worst phone purchase I did in last 11 years.

In most of the forums discussing G6 have posts with bright day photos and claiming to be best camera ever.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] crazyg4m3r:
Just the focus is so bad at times. I try and try to get it to focus but it just denys me.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] smidra:
I second that. I really cannot understand what do people praise about this camera. Even in good light conditions the picture is just crap. The heavy postprocessing turns faces into monsters. There is no detail as the contrast is way up from what it should be. It makes your eyes bleed. It may look good in the phone, but it isn't. The wide lens in a great idea and I really liked it, but the output quality is a total disaster. Not to mention it takes a few good seconds to start the camera and the first picture is often not saved.

Compared to G4 it does not stand a chance. I've had 4 G4's and all of them bootlooped. I ditched LG phones completely as I did with Samsung. The G6 is now back in the box as a backup phone. I hated every minute of having it.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
Hmm here are a few of the shots I got with this terrible camera.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] flyingswan23:
As I mentioned in my post I use the phone to shoot my kid ,inside my home. I was using G4 with auto mode and I was getting reasonable quality video. Now this is this year's flag ship, things changed, large aperture ,OIS ,PDAF and all those flashy tech and I am getting grainy and waxy processed videos on auto mode. If a phone 2 generations old can give me good videos in auto mode naturally this year's phone should do that too. At least this is what I think when 4 progresses to 6.But this is not the case, off course I can shoot in RAW develop or do manual settings and try to get best out of the camera. Then LG should acknowledge that in AUTO mode and low light there will degradation of details. Same like some camera manuals say that in CADF when there is less contrast between subject and background auto focus will suffer.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
my response was really for the person above me that said it was horrible. I hear your concerns.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] flyingswan23:
By the way ,you photos are really good for this phone:), Was that fireworks shot on a tripod or some sort of stand.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jeremiah Bonds:
Thanks. All was taken in auto. Maybe you should get a replacement?

The fireworks shot was in hand.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Then the S8 is even worse cos earlier on in this thread a guy did a comparison of a whole bunch of scenes with the g6, s8 and nexus 5 and G6 does very well.

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And remember the wide angle lens is capturing almost double the scene compared to the std lens with the same amount of megapixels so obviously the detail won't be the same, try the same with a DSLR take a photo at 26mm then zoom out to 14mm and take the same photo, then check the results, the 14mm photo will jabs much less detail at same magnification, just physics. I think the wide angle lens gives great results all things considered.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] :
My bad

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Beautiful pictures ? looks very professional.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] smidra:
I am sorry, I did not mean to cause a flame. Could you please post full size images of your shots?

I completely agree, I am not knitpicking and I do not expect miracles. It's just that based on the online reviews I was expecting to get a significant improvement over the LG G4 and the images are worse in most of the aspects. :(

I understand this may look like a great shot when on the phone screen or resized and recompressed:

However, if I look at 1:1 I just cannot say this is a good camera. Not even close. I am sorry. The light conditions are excellent, yet the phone does some horrible postprocessing and destroys all the detail.

Is my particular camera damaged or is this how it works for you too?
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
Nope but even compared to S8 etc you'll set the same, unfortunately manufacturers are pushing the processing side of their camera modules. You should take the same photo in RAW and process it yourself in PS Express and you'll see the G6 camera is actually quite capable, just compromised by too harsh processing by lg.

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Plus i assume that's the wide angle lens which makes the effect even harsher, see the crops attached from my Sony A6300 (APS-C size sensor) one at wideangle zoomed to 100% and the second at more std Field of View (FoV) zoomed in to 100% both taken from same spot, you'll see the wideangle shot has way less detail, thats just normal, as there is so much more scene to cover with the same amount of megapixels. That being said the LG processing is harsher than it needs to be, was less on G4 etc.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] smidra:
I understand, thanks! I will try that when I am in the mood to forgive the G6 and play with it some more :) I have switched for the P10 Plus and to my liking the camera is just so much better.

This hunt for megapixels and crispy vivid images is crazy. It looks fantastic on the phone display (and that is what sells) but otherwise... eh. I wonder how much better it would have been if they just used 6MPx chips behind the same lenses.

Thanks for the shots, I cannot get my head around it. Yes, there is more "scene" to fit in, but we are still zooming to 100% of the image (1:1), not to 100% of the object (the collar of your jacket in this case). So I think taking a wide lens shot should really be like taking 10 steps back and then shooting :) The data is the same, there will be less detail on the same object, but overall the image processing should be the same as normal shot, or not? But maybe I am wrong in this.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] Jostian:
I had the P9 Plus and thought it was the best camera I had in a phone (besides the Nokia 808 Pureview) and mainly cos Huawei and/or Leica decided to be very mild with their processing algorithm so the photos looked very natural, so yes the drive for 'super processing' makes pix look great on smaller screens but robs the actual photo of 'photographic' detail, and its a pity that there is no way to control the harshness (amount) of processing applied.

"The data is the same", the data amount might be the same but it now covers a wider scene hence there will be less detail on the same object, if that makes sense :)

see this comparison between the S8, G6 and Nexus 5 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tklicyesoc9o5dr/AAA4SovTNKEejERzhGM9-ixGa?dl=0 and then go to post #107 and see my response, just for further info.
[LG G6 Real Life Review] smidra:
I absolutely agree. Thanks for the link and explanation, now we're on the same page :)