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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
Yes, mike, same thing with me. I cannot hang up a call without unlocking also after the screen goes blank/phone goes into suspend mode. Can be quite a hassle. What phone are you using and where did you buy it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
Dear WJames,

Testing R4 now. The slider seems more responsive now, I feel. Did you do anything different regarding this or is it probably due to the fact the slider is now in the middle?

Another thing is, anyway to put in option for us (either built in or a registry tweak) whereby we can choose to having to unlock before we can answer a call? When the phone is in my pocket or in a pouch/case, I sometimes accidently answer a call or reject a call when pulling the phone out.

Oh yeah, what happened to the shortcuts? Or do we use back the same shortcuts from R3? Or is there no use for the shortcuts now? If so, how do we terminate Lockdown?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] famewolf:
Did you try running it a second time to see if it prompts you? That was a change he was looking at.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
Sorry, Famewolf, I don't understand your question. Which part of my post are you referring to? Oh, and by the way, the latest R4 now lets me answer/reject calls on my phone via the touchscreen soft buttons without having to unlock first. But I actually didn't mind too much that I had to unlock first before I can tap "Answer" or "Ignore". Hope it can be an option for users to select. :)

Oh, if you mean if I run Lockdown a 2nd time, what does it do? It just locks the phone immediately. No prompts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
I see a few questions/comments...

I'm glad to hear the slider is more responsive with v4. In previous versions, I used a customized Windows slider. When you "tweak" a standard control, sometimes there are a few downsides. For this version, I wrote a custom slider control.

I didn't include separate shortcuts in this release. Instead, I just provided one built-in shortcut in the CAB installation (previous versions just used a Zip). That shortcut is installed under the Start->Programs folder.

As for the answer/hang-up issues, it appears that some phone apps "grab" the hotkeys after they receive a call notification and some don't. I'll see what I can do to make the behavior more consistent. If possible, I'll provide an option to enable/disable the phone keys when a call notification is received.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewchandler:
The option to lock with incoming calls sounds perfect. This is a nice little app. Thanks for the support.

To clarify. I use the htc touch (enhanced)...from SMG.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sathya:
Truly good

great.thank u for keeping in mind 2003se users..can u give us some skin support?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Well, as you probably noticed, I added very basic "theme" support to this version. What are you looking for in the way of "skins"? Please keep in mind that I want to keep the memory footprint of this app small.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NexVision:
Running it on a Verizon xv6800 and the hardware ok button kills the program dont know if thats right or not. Just started using it so no other things found yet. Will post when I do.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
What can I say WJames, you da man! Can I say "I Luv Ya, Bro!"? Haha!

Actually, the more I use the new slider, the more I find that it is soooo much better than the previous slider. I used to have quite lot of problems with the old slider, it just refused to budge almost half the time when I was using my thumb or finger. I thought maybe it was a slider size problem or maybe I was just too much of a klutz to use this app! But this new slider you wrote yourself is a vast improvement.

If you can really provide for an option to enable/disable the phone keys for when calls come in, that would be wunderbar!

I am also using a HTC Touch (Enhanced).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Hi, Nex.

What OS version are you using?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
TAPI > SNAPI for handling incoming calls. In theory, this approach should also work with PPCs. I now can detect an incoming call, and if all goes well, I should be able to enable/disable the answer button. I have a very beta version that I need to hammer away at this weekend. Hopefully, I'll be able to post it on Monday.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Christian72D:
I LOVE your tool!!!

I don´t know why i try to have that much information on my "today" when every other S2U tool hides them.

This is absolut great and i´m also looking forward to the version with the option to enable/disable the phone keys.

And having the spring-effect of the other tools would be lovely.

And then nothing more, it´s such a great SMALL app!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NexVision:
@WJames...

Running WM6 With dcd's latest 1.6.10 kitchen.

WM6

Radio 2.13

CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4 dcd)

Processor MSM7500-400mhz
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ff2005:
ei... WJames

Your app is great till now...

I have some more ideas for it... but first, can you do alfa blending on top of the today screen?!?!

If yes, my ideia is this.... when you tap on the left side of the screen it changes to black (with alfa blending) and when you slide the finger to the right side of the screen the color of the screen changes... if you let go of the finger before you get to the right side, if keps the screen look and transparent... (no slide to unlock slider or anything else is necessary on the screen)...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Alpha blending would be kewl. I actually looked into this about a week or so ago. Unfortunately, Windows Mobile doesn't support layering out of the box. Alpha blending can still be handled, but it requires a separate buffer in which the blending is performed. This would add a fair amount of overhead to the app. Given that I want to keep the Lockdown as small as possible, I probably won't implement it.

However, this doesn't mean that a "Pro" version wouldn't have such a feature. While I don't intend to actively pursue such an endeavor, other people have expressed such an interest. Once the next release is stable, I plan to release the source code. At that point, a "Pro" version could become someone's full time hobby. :)

W James
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Hmmm... I wonder what's going on here. I'm running WM6 as well. For me, all the hotkeys are locked. It sounds like something is chaining into the keyboard hook after me.

Did you run any other applications after Lockdown was loaded? Did you get an incoming call (or dial an outgoing call)?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NexVision:
I solely loaded and tried all the hardware keys and the ok is the one which closes it. During a phone call same thing it disables the end button which is my purpose for using this software but if I hit OK it causes the program to close.

If I can be of anymore help lemme know I am ready to test away.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Very interesting, Nex. I'm not familiar with your phone, so I have a few newb questions...

Can I assume the "Ok" button is also the "Answer" button for an incoming call?

Can you direct me to the thread for your WM6 ROM?

Would you mind running a debug version of Lockdown? It will record some event details in a text file.

W James
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NexVision:
I can run whatever you need the hardware ok button does not answer the phone.

Phone image here.... http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/796/verizon-2007-4.jpg

If you want email me the debug if you dont want it public craig @ jupitercellular.com
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewchandler:
not trying to throw out too many ideas but it would be cool if the slider was transparent with only the arrow showing. Otherwise, this thing is very cool. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chiekh:
Please for wm other then wwe. the app. was installed in the "Programs" folder and for frensh is "Programmes".

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
just noticed another thing for R4. When within an app for eg in messaging and the lock is invoked (say you press the power button while still in messaging and later you press the power button again to "wake" the phone), i noticed the slider is a lot less responsive. Very difficult to move the slider then.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
I'm not sure how to go about making a multi-language friendly installation CAB. Does anyone have experience in this area?

I'll look into the less responsive slider issue.

The answer button on/off feature is basically working. I still need to do some more testing. It may not get released today. I had a busy weekend and didn't get to hammer away at the code changes as much as I wanted.

There's one outstanding issue that still bothers me. I'd love to find a way to periodically repaint the desktop window underlying the transparent slider window. I haven't found a way to do this without temporarily allowing stylus events, which I really don't want to do. Does anyone have a solution?

W James
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewchandler:
Although I'd love a transparent slider, I'm no help...sorry. The answer on/off thing is probably what would keep me from using this permanently. Good luck but no biggie...as I'm sure you are getting tired of all the coding. Thanks for the hard work. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chiekh:
I have experienced that with innosoft callerid app. i can answer or reject a call (by touching the screen buttons) while the device is locked with your app.

it's not a problem but it's for information.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
How does the default lock work in respect of repainting the desktop?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
When activated, Lockdown draws a transparent window on top of the entire desktop. This prevents any stylus events from being triggered. However, Windows does not gracefully handle a top-most transparent window. Windows does not know that the contents beneath it are still visible, so it does not redraw them. Unfortunately, it does realize that the top-most window is above everything, so it ignores attempts to force a desktop redraw because it thinks that everything on the desktop is hidden.

I can temporarily remove the transparent, top-most window, and then force the desktop repaint. However, that leaves the desktop briefly open to stylus events.

Thus my dilemma.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
The next release will contain two new registry options: EnableAnswer and EnableReject. The first option affects the Answer hotkey and the later affects the Reject hotkey. If an option is set to 1, its corresponding hotkey will be active during an incoming call. If set to 0, that hotkey will be deactivated.

So I need some feedback...

How should these options be set initially?

Both EnableAnswer and EnableReject active during incoming calls?

Both disabled?

One enabled and one disabled?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewchandler:
For me, I would think you'd need to be able to hang up without having to unlock. That is the problem I had. Whatever makes that possible is my vote.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CTSLICK:
Both enabled
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
That's kind of ironic. The hang-up key was exactly why I started this app. I kept accidentally hanging up my phone while it was in its carrier.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Well, CTStick, you were the only one who voted, so you win. Both keys are enabled by default during an incoming call.

In addition to the new registry options EnableAnswer and EnableIgnore, there's also a Message option that can be used to change the slider message. While I still don't have a multi-language friendly CAB installer, at least the slider message can appear in other languages.

For the release 5 install CAB, see the first page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chiekh:
i tried the new ver. and the after unlock and lock again the slider dont return to its first position (0).

and the Message option has no effect on the slider.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewchandler:
That is funny. Do whatever you think is best. It's just strange behavior on my touch. I have to slide to unlock to answer and then slide to unlock to hang up. I guess I like how the standard lock that is offered works. I just don't like to type in a 4 digit code 100x per day and it's nice to see the today screen. Thanks again. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] madmaso:
Yeah, I'm seeing the same thing. The first time I unlock my phone after a reboot, the arrow shows up on the left. From then on, when I bring it back up, the arrow begins on the right, so I just have to slide it like 1mm to get it to unlock.

Didn't see this on release 4, but it happens on release 5.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Sorry about the arrow issue. Me bad. In a rush to get the version out, I focused almost solely on the answer/ignore keys. Consequently, I missed that bug. A new version is now available on the first page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
The Message option should be fixed as well - just make sure you use the "6.1" install CAB.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] madmaso:
Works good! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CTSLICK:
Just checking on the intent of the EnableAnswer and EnableIgnore DWORDs when set to "1". I have tested and found that when my Sprint Mogul (Titan/6800, WM6) rings I can answer or ignore by using the onscreen Answer or Ignore...so that works. However I cannot use the hard buttons associated with the onscreen Answer and Ignore softkeys to answer or ignore...is that right? Thanks very much for your continued efforts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Hi, CT.

I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with your phone or its layout.

First, let me detail my Wizard cell phone layout...

There are two buttons associated with the answer and ignore options. These are called "soft keys" and they are almost flush with the display, and each is placed near its associated "Answer" or "Ignore" on-screen option. These are the buttons that Lockdown attempts to enable.

There are also two green and red phone buttons. I'm currently not enabling them.

Which buttons are you referring to?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CTSLICK:
Sorry for the bad description. Sounds like your set up is very much like mine. The onscreen options work, the soft keys do not. The phone buttons remain disabled which is fine with me as well. Screenshot attached
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
CT, would you mind running the application contained in the attached TestKeys.Zip? It just monitors any key press and displays its related values.

Note the values returned when you press the "Answer" and "Ignore" buttons, and please post them to this forum.

Thanks much.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] katerini:
WJames, Very nice software, and very light! What i need.

Even if you don't make the slider go back it's ok.

But i have a problem.

I use it on HTC Touch Cruise, and everything is ok, exept one thing.

When i have any program opened on the screen (not backround) (for exp. file explorer, contacts, calendar, and any other), and turn the device off to stand by, and after a while turn it on again, then the slider stocks for about 20-30 secs. I can't move him. Can you do anything about this please?

For incoming calls i have no problem, because i use Address Book, and it callerID comes up from the slider. So i can take any call.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CTSLICK:
Results below...thanks for your persistence on this :)

Answer (left soft key)

WM_HOTKEY: ID=0070, Virtual Key=70, Mods=NONE

Ignore (right soft key)

WM_HOTKEY: ID=0071, Virtual Key=71, Mods=NONE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Woah! Those are not the values I expect for those keys. Let me look into this. I'll get back to you shortly...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Hmmm...

I see two issues noted in your post:

First, you note that the slider is not going back to the far left after the cell phone wakes up. I suggest uninstalling Lockdown, pulling down the latest version (I ninja uploaded release 6.1), and re-installing that version.

As for the slider being stuck for 20-30 seconds, it sounds like a possible focus / top-most issue, but I can't say for sure yet. If this issue doesn't go away after a re-install, please let me know, and I'll look into it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] katerini:
I have allready the latest version. Thats what i say for the slider, is that he is not going back like S2U2. But its ok so.

Previus install for me was the v.5. Desinstall and install version 6.

The problem with the 20-30 seconts, is there with all versions i have try. (v.4-5-6)

Take a look, if you can do something,

because imagine, you look in contacts, then you have something else to do, the ppc goes off after 2 minutes, but then you take the ppc again and you have to call at this second. But you have to wait until the slider go right!

The wait period is only when i have something on the display, like contacts.

If i have only the normal today screen, everithing is ok.

Thank You for Your answer!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ludester:
any chance of making this look like the apple unlock but keep the functionality basic (as it is now) compared to the other s2u variants.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Absolutely. However, the appearance probably won't be implemented by me. My workload almost doubled this past week, and it's likely to continue to be heavy for another month. Consequently, I won't have much time to dedicate to this app. However, I plan to release this source this weekend barring any show-stopping bugs. Maybe someone else can step up and continue to develop this app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] katerini:
I found out, about the stock of 20-30 seconds,

that in the time the slider is stocked, if i press in the middle of the distance (left-right), then the slider moves.

Again, when the slider is stocked, i press in the middle, and then i can slide him from the midle to the right. It's not good, but i don't have to wait.

I hope you understand.

Any solution?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
This is exactly the problem i mentioned in post #113 at pg 12 of this thread. And katerini, that is the same solution that i have to use to get around this problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
WJames,

The registry options for EnableAnswer and EnableIgnore does not seem to work. I had tried setting the DWORD dec value to "0" for both but I can still answer or ignore without unlocking? I am using a HTC Touch.

Oh yeah. One more suggestion/request. I hope I am not asking too much. When in locked mode, can we have the volume hardware keys enabled when a call comes in so that we can still use it to silence the ringer tone? There are certain situations whereby we may not want to answer the call but we don't want to press "ignore" either. But at the same time, a constant ringing may get noisy. So sometimes, I just use the hardware volume keys to silence the ringer tone when a call comes in.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
After you changed the registry options, did you terminate Lockdown and then restart it? The registry options don't currently go into effect until Lockdown is restarted. Sorry. I don't think I mentioned that.

I like your suggestion to provide an option for enabling/disabling the volume slider. I'll look to add that into a future release.

I should add a little caveat. My time is very limited right now. I'm working on several programming projects that take up more than the usual 40 hours per work (much more). Thus I probably won't be able to do much with Lockdown for a few weeks. I'll continue to monitor this thread and answer questions and add suggestions to my "to-do" list, but I'm afraid app updates are going to be slow for awhile.

W James
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xue v.2:
Is there any way to skin this helpful aplication??? Beautiful and helpful application will be a great deal! =)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mic73337:
perfect

yes, it will be great if we can skin the prog on our own.

and it will be perfect if the slider goes back to left position like in S2U2.

gegards from bochum

Mic
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xue v.2:
Still waiting the answer from the author patiently...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Re-Mi:
Read the thread and you will find out.. I could give you the answer but your question clearly states that you didn't read the thread.

greetz,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
Hi W James,

I am not sure how you terminate lockdown. The only way I know is to power off the phone or to soft reset the phone. i had powered off / soft reset the phone after I made the registry changes. Thereafter I started lockdown. Still the same result I am afraid.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpaq:
Ok, just figured out why I was not able to put the registry changes into effect. All the while I was terminating Lockdown first, then made the registry changes, then started Lockdown. No results.

Then I made the registry changes AFTER I started Lockdown or while Lockdown was running. Then I terminated Lockdown, then I restarted Lockdown. VOILA! The registry changes came into effect. So apparently, it was my bad, my "human error"!

EDIT: Sorry, the above is not accurate. Still no results for the registry changes. Start Lockdown, make registry changes, terminate Lockdown, restart Lockdown. Still no results. Registry changes still did not come into effect.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
Great, JPaq. I'm glad you resolved your issue.

For feature reference, you can force the current running Lockdown to terminate by running a Lockdown shortcut that includes a "-close" parameter. It might look something like this:

"\Program Files\Lockdown\Lockdown.exe" -close
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zalaros:
Is mini S2U supposed to lock only the screen? I have HTC TyTN (Hermes) with Black Satin and it doesn't lock any hardware key but only the screen.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WJames:
It's supposed to lock hardware keys as well. Does it fail to lock certain keys or is it all keys? Is it just failing during an incoming call?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] peta§:
Request for this nice prog

This program is just what I was looking for. Does what I need, and no more. Ok, the graphic design could be nicer, but it works fine and thats the important bit. Great job WJames.

One thing I'm missing is the future of shutting down the ring signal with the volume button when a call is coming in. Sometimes you just want to shut the sound down, sneak out of the room and take the call. Is it possible to unlock the volume button while the phone is ringing?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xue v.2:
Which one the param for customizing slider button, so that I can change the arrow button into rounded button???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] skanndelus:
don't think there's a reg option for that