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[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ephexxis:
unlikely and i think you're probably wrong about people not using local files for music anymore. the audiophiles who this phone's hardware would appeal to generally prefer using their own source material since it doesn't rely on compression for streaming, and you always have your own music for use on the go. also imo i prefer to build my own Playlists rather than letting a service decide for me.

the only exception on the quality front would be tidal
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aLexzkter:
I'm not talking about what's best. I'm talking about the services that are most common nowadays for general listening activity.

Who likes listening to their favorite songs all days? I like discovering new music and for that I use Spotify and several shoutcast radio stations through Xiialive. Do you have access to flac files of just released songs?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nfsmw_gr:
Thank you for posting them.

I used the exact same settings but CPU lists ARMv8 + NEON and VEC is null on my phone unlike your screenshot.

What else did you do to produce this result?

Also thanks so much for helping, I really appreciate it man!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ephexxis:
both. and a lot of what i buy off of juno is wav, as well. its not as if i have the same library of music I've had for 20 years, i update it weekly or biweekly with new music, usually at least five or six EPs worth. my reason for doing so is primarily because i can guarantee the quality that way which is important for me as a DJ

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you serious? Uninstall neutron and reinstall it from the play store and report results
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nfsmw_gr:
Dead serious, unfortunately. :(

Alright gonna try right now.

I got the evaluation version, does that matter?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ephexxis:
well yeah probably lol
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nfsmw_gr:
Well, no dice.

This is getting ridiculous. :P

Regarding the normal or hifi setting on audio settings, you started neutron in normal setting and switched mid playing a song or started in hifi?

Also if you change between the modes on your device do you see the CPU and VEC values change?

(I don't)

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Ooh...well that sucks...

I can't buy it right now to check.

I really hope that is not the issue.

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Wanna comment on this mate?

You got the evaluation version or the paid one?

EDIT:

I can confirm that the evaluation version does not do what I was trying to accomplish.

I logged in the google play store with a friend's account who has bought neutron so I can try the paid version and it worked, looks like I'm gonna have to buy it, heh.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ephexxis:
Yeah the full version has several different apks actually, one for old phones that only runs VFP, one for ARMv7 with neon, one for ARMv8 (64 bit, includes neon obviously) and one for x86 devices. now the play store detects your hardware and installs the one you need
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nfsmw_gr:
I see.

In any case, I'm really glad we got this sorted out. :)

You have my gratitude.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ephexxis:
no problem man. ps NFS:MW features a few of the tracks that i listen to to remind myself of the era when i first fell in love with drum n bass, which to this day is probably 90 percent of what i listen to.

gotta go fast, right?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nfsmw_gr:
[off topic]

hehe, damn right man. :)

besides the soundtrack the game was really nice as well, probably my favourite need for speed game, with close second underground and underground 2

[/off topic]

To all reading this thread:

Upon further investigation using my SOL Republic Master Tracks headphones, I found out the hifi mode works on other players as well, contrary on what I read on this thread.

I tried with jetaudio, my favourite player, and I was misguided when I used earphones and thought the external akm dac was not working as well.

The difference is not noticeable with earphones though (I used the Xiaomi Piston 3 and the Soundmagic E10s for testing), but testing with headphones the difference is night and day when using the hifi mode in favour of hifi mode.

P.S. I had to toggle normal and hifi mode after rebooting the device, don't forget that.

Hope this helps you all!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
Hello,

After reading all the thread I must to reaply to you.

In your initial letter what you wrote is my opinion too in every word.

+ Factory player not take numbers from tracks, so ordering in own way and can't play albums. maybe playlist can solve the problem, but didn't tested yet.

+ A little click betwwen tracks, same when inicializing (turn on/off) DAC. And no gapples playback

But still soundbing best !

Maybe you are the only who get the point but fooled after :))

Neutron is can't sound as stock player. And as you see, it's fixed to 48000 Khz !

Db poweramp for me can't work in experimental mode.

In all other sound options is still sound worse than stock player.

Of course I have tried many of players, but no one sounds as stock player..

BUT !!! Try N7 player. I think it is the CLOSEST from the part of quality. I don't know, why it's sounding almost same as stock player but it does. Neuron sounds tiny, db poweramp sounds bad on top.

From the perpective of features and especially EQ neruron is very good so.

But N7 is also TOP on browsing and album handling, as we ALL hate the stock one. (going back to main directory and start from top again is pain in the ass!)

So my tip try N7. I think I will stick with it, because the sound is useable, but the handling is top of noch.

About HI-FI mode: Yes , if you turn hifi on, sound is much better, amost better than any other player, but that DAMN GOOD sound comes from that DAMN pain stock player :)

I have tried 24/96, 24/44,16/44 files respectively and my opinion based on this.

Tell you what you think:)

Also please inform me that you have also a little click between tracks in stock ZTE player?

Thank you,

AO
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RobboW:
I use Jet Audio Player and have 32 bit turned on. With headphones I can clearly hear a difference between Super audio on and with it off. I couldn't hear that difference with all music apps. I do hear it in stock app but don't use that as it sucks, so disabled it.

With Jet you can save EQ presets differently between different audio outputs and also purchase plugins. The AM3D plugin is the only worthwhile one. I can get a sort of poor man's ViPER4Android effect from it. Keeping the Axon stock so must have a way to listen with enjoyment without rooting and hacking.

I cannot get the SQ from my BT that I can from wired cans or plugging into a system. That's ok as I mostly use BT in the car where the amps do some EQ, or on a portable speaker where it's easy to overload the input with too much EQ and it doesn't have the frequency range to really benefit anyway. I saved profiles with more EQ on wired output for headphones and less on the BT profile.

Apparently the Axon doesn't show a massive benefit on normal, low impedance headsets. I use 32 ohm cans but it's still plenty loud enough. It's noticeably louder than using BT headphones so I must assume the AKG DAC is doing the driving. I'd like to hear a set of higher impedance cans where the extra voltage of the DAC can still drive them.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Predatorhaze:
Neutron is a great player
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] shuhail:
Does the audio chip work for bluetooth audio
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Masterjuggler:
No, and it never will, on any phone, ever. It doesn't work that way. Speakers can't play audio stored in a digital format, and bluetooth/USB can't transfer audio in an analog format. The DAC (Digital to Analog Converter, the thing you're asking about) does exactly what the name implies, and converts the stored digital audio into an analog format speakers can be driven with. Bluetooth devices have their own DAC that you probably can't tweak.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] shuhail:
In that case the axon 9 pro doesnt have headphone jack but still it has Dac. Why is that used.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Masterjuggler:
Where do you see that it has a discrete DAC? I don't see it anywhere on Google, but I may have missed it. Gsmarena doesn't seem to think it has one other than the integrated SoC DAC, which is required to drive the builtin speaker.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Dead Short:
It is possible to output analog audio over USB-C I think. If I'm not mistaken some Nubia phone had a passive USB-C to 3.5mm jack adaptor.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Man5615:
Try with dynamic driver iem with impedance above 32 ohm and above

I have researched many forums and personally tried everything and here are my conclusions

Output impedance of axon 7 is quite high

So low impedance iems struggle at moderate to high volumes

But in case of cans and somewhat iems with 25 ohm and more it sounds pretty nice

My kz es3 kz zs5 12 n 16 ohm sound awful pretty much here no bass muddy tiny but kz es4 sounds good which is 25 ohm

Also on custom roms dac works everywhere and audio is better than stock oreo but speaker has less bass less surround and either very poor battery or performance

Some reviewer probably pcauthority measures output impedance to be 64 ohm but i dont think it is that ridiculously high for audio centric phone but it is quite high as per my observations after seeing impedance curve of kz zs5

So if someone having high impedance iems if possible compare with low impedance iems and conclude

High impedance with graphene driver would be ideal

And also quick suggestion is that high impedance adaptors wont work as they increase output impedance n not input impedance
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] kevinmcmurtrie:
Yo don't need fancy headphones to see which audio amp you're using. You can test it with a DVM. The "high quality" amp has an impedance around 80 Ohms and a high voltage output while the "normal" amp is somewhere around 0.1 Ohms and has a lower voltage output. 80 Ohms is nothing short of garbage so you're going to massive coloring from the headphone drivers using that amp. It's why some people will disagree about whether it sounds better or not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
Neutron is powerful, but NOT use DAC. Sounds worse than stock player. Poweramp also, moreover it's froozing when try to use it with full power.:((

This stock player is a PAIN. Really. And GUI is a shame.

I'm very disappointed about this, not updated the player since it is relased.

Also all internet media things skip the DAC. Spotify, Youtube, tunein, antennapod etc. Bug minus. Good phone without working software thats supports the advanced sound that ALL THIS PHONE ABOUT.

The factory player lacks of basic features. Even the simplest one.

/even play only one file, without adding it to playlist:( /
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
May I ask: Why do you spread BS?

Send some screenshots showing that Neutron/browsers don't use the DAC at least...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
What do you mean "BS" ? Bull****?

My experience based on listening test and I'm sure it is sounds worse than stock player. It's not a question.

Maybe I missed some on the settings part, but I have tried everything.

On the streaming part like antennapod after downloading it and playing in the stock player the sound is NOT the same.

I'm not rooted, if you want terminal check sorry, but can't.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Masterjuggler:
Um, no, unless you can pull up a terminal or take a log and prove that something is/isn't happening, a "listening test" is completely worthless. Even ignoring things like placebo and the cognitive biases, your ears just work different from everyone else's. What "sounds worse" to you may sound better to someone else. So yeah, your previous post was BS.

That being said, someone else will have to interpret what the audio hardware in neutron means, if it indicates anything at all. But why you posted screenshots of your settings too is beyond me.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
PLease stop blaming me. I'm musician. You are a telephone guru (I think).

The test was in a studio with sound engineer. Please stop about talking placebo effect referring that I'm a kind of lame in the aspect of sound.

Maybe I'm lame on the ascpect of phone tweak, but you go to wrong area.

You seems to me simply spread bullshits about what sound worse is better to other.

Axon 7 is very close to the professional soundcards, like RME, M-Audio etc with stock player. Worse mean not that tight bass, stereo image etc.

In case that I'm wrong about using or not AKM chip it is STILL sound worse.

Posting the pictures see at DRV audiotrack (sys) [LINE OUT] row.

If I turn off HIRES codec in generic driver, still the same info there.

Also maybe correct me on wrong settings. Yes, I'm open to correct me.

I don't wanna blaming neutron, simply give information to others with not so advanced hearing and fooled by placebo effect (and you)

Neutron can't proove the situation that sounds goes in HIRES with AKM is nonsense,

If could, the pictures would be enough for you.

I don't wanna root my phone under warranty and using terminal because the program not alone to do this. Blah, who is the lame ?!

If it would has the same sound as stock player, it would be the greatest think on Axon. I hate stock player functionality, but I need UNCOMPROMISED sound so stick with it yet.

BTW today I will reset and reimage the phone with EDL,getting clean stock again (not because of this problem) but maybe something change addressed to this problem also. I will inform you. (but not enjoy this thread because of offensive blaming me)

Respect other opinion is not like this.

Regards
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Dodgexander:
I've used Neutron on both stock and custom and it uses the right DAC. It's easy to tell when you switch on stock and also easy to tell on custom if rooted.

I'm not sure if it's just your phone, maybe your hearing or perhaps just differences you hear related to using different software.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
I have done complete EDL clean reinstall of my system.

(latest chinese oreo b18)

I will go to test neutron again on weekend.

BTW I forgot to mention that I'm tested it with Trial version of neutron player. (I have read that there are different install versions for full version based on processors. Is it matter ?

So many peoples says that it works that it's can't be false. So I'm not giving up. Try to find whats the problem at me.

(Hope that I can still use Trial version of neutron)

If still not work, I will record with professional soundcard and anybody can test it by listening.

(fast switching A/B test cutted into one file)

Thanks, AO

Edit: yes, I was wrong.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Androowner:
Wow, just installed neutron player and there

it's SAYS that DAC found !!

I have never see this, altough I have installed it several times (soooo many) already.

Looks promising..

Also installed USB audio player pro (says that exacly supports Zte Axon 7), also message about it is found DAC. ( I have never used it , but read there this info. Thank you for it ! )
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RobboW:
Just tried it again, been a while since I did.

I had issues with Neutron and gain control before so stopped trying to use it.

That dialog seems an auto adjustment of settings to make it work. I'm not convinced it actually sounds better than the rest though.

I currently have stock music player, Poweramp, Player Pro, Jet Audio HD and Neutron and to be honest, I still think Jet sounds best. It has a few annoyances though. All of them sound better than stock music app.

I kind of like the relative simplicity of Player Pro but it needs a skin to stay in the phone. It works reliably and sounds good.

Neutron is way too complicated seeming and the UI is still awful. No skins for it but sound is good.

Poweramp V3 is coming along nicely. It works in hi res now but doesn't have an audio advantage so which you use really comes down to what suits you in functionality if you can stand the UI.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] MyCuteSatori:
excuse me, but mine has only NEON64 after VEC.

NEON+NEON64 = two DAC used?

eval version of nmp, tried on both slim7 b13 and official b14, the same NEON64 only
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] deathpulse:
Hey everyone - I've been using Dutty's Rom's for a while (THanks Dutty - your work is worth every penny I sent as a donation - I may need to send out some more:) ) and I only have the ringtones that come with his updated ROMs. Does anyone have a cab collection of great ringtones? Can you post up a link? I need to get on this - my GF is making fun of my "privative" tones!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xeno1:
there's a huge thread over at MoDaCo that has tons of ring tones, you can find it here - http://www.modaco.com/content/Smart...al-Discussion/204490/best-text-message-tones/.

You can also download a program called Audacity that will let you create your own ringtones from mp3's. Just google for it and you'll find it easily.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] skenobi:
There's a thread called "What Ringtone do use?"
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
Any one have this issue? I am on 5.0.2 and Netflix keeps crashing. When i choose a movie it loads and "Bamnn" Netflix tvq-pb-103 (2.10.0.1004) https://help.netflix.com/fr-ca/node/57683

I cleaned up cache and data, logout and reboot... Same problem.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavero.burgos:
Hi, are you using a type of VPN?

Are you DNS from ISP or your using custom ones?

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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
Sorry i should say TVQ-PB-103 (2.10.0.2104)

No VPN and no custom DNS.

I called Netflix they looked lost about this error. After all the cache and data clearing for this app still no go. They asked me to do a full reset... 2 hours later finish setup the box, no change. Netflix Still gave me the same error.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavero.burgos:
Hmm, if you haven't touched router settings, then try rebooting both your modem, router and Shield TV, in that order. 30-30-30 reboot cycle.

I have experienced issues with some apps I have installed in the past that could cause some misbehaviours, so if you tested Netflix right after the factory reset then a bad app should not be the culprit, but if you restored some apps before testing Netflix then check your apps and start uninstalling suspicious apps.

Have you read this:

https://xdaforums.com/android-stick...s905x-help-mi-box-3s-mdz-19-aa-t3521362/page9

I wonder if it's network, bad app or bad update/flashing perhaps? problem.

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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
Nvidia shield is fresh not a single app added.

tried the Netflix update and still no go.

I Tried reboot the router and plugged the shield tv to an other TV. Change 2.4 to 5 ghz still not working.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
TVQ-PB-103 (2.10.0.2104)

I search on the net and i can't find this code. Some one know what it's mean?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavero.burgos:
Did you try the app from the link I posted below?

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24776

Does it work?, at least does it play videos?.

You have Android TV OS right, are you rooted? It would be good if you could take a debug log.

How about upgrading to Nvidia experience 5.1 and test again.

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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
I did and it's worked but like you said image quality is really bad. I am not sure it even 720p and all zoom in, no menu.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allcius:
I tried wireless 2.4 and 5.2 and wired, i changed to 720p tv, i tried onkyo 4k amp. Hook up to 1080p Toshiba 1080p tv. Reboot and cleared multiple times but Still not good.

I going to reset my router or update it tonight and test again.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavero.burgos:
OK but before you update your router, try just changing DNS to google DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

It would be absurd but probably your ISP has enabled some restrictions so that is something very simple that might help.

How is your network setup?. Do you have a modem-router provided by your ISP plus your own router or just 1 router?

Test with nothing in between. Plugged in directly to your main router or even better to your modem to troubleshoot.

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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
I think I might shed some light on that error. But, first tell me this can you log into Amazon? It might prove interesting just to log into it with your Amazon account. You will then be offered the opportunity to join if you wish, but you don't have to. There are a few freebies on there that do not require you to subscribe to it. If those play then I would be at a loss.

But, I would wager that it won't.

If I were you I would head off to the PlayStore, and search for an App called 'DRM Info' this App checks the status of all the local DRM Keys installed on your Device.

In short I suspect heavily you are getting that message 'cause somehow, some way, your DRM Keys either got corrupted, or erased, and lost for good.

In short in order to use Netflix, or Amazon, or HBO Go, etc... etc... That require the strongest DRMs to protect their Content. Only Widevine L(evel)1 will do. This Key can only be set at the Factory, and is highly likely to be very unique to the Device. If it did decide to go walkies. Then all you'd be left with is the basic Widevine L(evel)3. Which is not an acceptable level protection for their likes. And so you get the above Error Code: tvq-pb-103.

Outside of sending the Box back to nVIDIA, I don't know of any possible way to ever recover it.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavero.burgos:
OP seems to be in plain stock and the issue sounds like it suddenly happened.

Anyway yes is good to verify your DRM keys and confirm if you have done something else to your device in terms of flashing unofficial stuff, BUT even if you did root, etc this shouldn't happen. I run full Android nougat and I'm rooted, I've flashed many times now since Nvidia 3.3, upgrading back to new stock and reflashing to new full Android and DRM keys are intact, so is really really really hard and very odd to lose DRM keys just like that, but for troubleshooting is good to check that detail too.

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