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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] znayver:
so the phone are 64-bit and the kernel is 32-bit??so samsung have to update the kernel to 64???you mean that my friend...the phone is 64 bit????
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteWolf:
the kernel source they have provided is 64 bit... but when it is compiled i get a fingerprint error but phone boots up...so they are using 64 bit kernel
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] znayver:
no my friend.the kernel is 32 bit and the phone is 64 bit.bcz i show this in (antutu benchmark application)..so i think samsung will update the kernel to 64 bit in the next update
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteWolf:
but the samsung source code is 64 bit and when compiled it boots up
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] znayver:
what application you are using to know that the source code is 64bit???iam using antuntu benchmark my friend..what application are you using?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteWolf:
no app bro...just saw the source code of the kernel
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] znayver:
ok friend..so you must installe (antutu benchmark) and you will see that the phone prossesor is 64 bit.and the system is 32 bit.try this and show me your resulte
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteWolf:
that i know...the OS is infact 32 bit...but the kernel is 64 bit
[General Questions and Answers] jain.tanmay:
I tried to add theme store to this device but i end up adding theme centre and theme store apk files in /system/priv_apps only it didn't work

I uninstalled themes.apk also & modifiedbuild.prop also

Nothing works .

There Is no app for theme store in app drawer &neither the icon in pinch off Menu works

Plz Help !!:rolleyes:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
Well I have had my Verizon unlimited for god knows how long and now that all the carriers are coming back with their own version of unlimited data plans I finally gave my plan a review.

I have had 2 lines with big red, both with unlimited data. My wife (who is Canadian) and I travel to Canada a lot to see her family and we live in L.A. so we vacation in Mexico.

I use the Pixel XL 128GB and she has an iPhone something or other.

I use on average 35GB a month and she uses about 11GB on average. When I travel with family it can go over 70 GB as everyone who is Canadian with us uses my phone as their hotspot.

I was using the trick to pop the sim out and back in then initiate the hotspot just fine. Heck I have the key on my keychain for it.

In the end, using our own unlimited data in Mexico & Canada, calling to and from those countries, my wife easily using the native 10GB hotspot on her iPhone toy, and having HD Streaming no counting against "unlimited data", plus now having unlimited voice call (we had 2000 minutes before) while it saving me now $70 a month was hard to say no to.

I'm sure I can keep my data usage below 30GB a month if I actually use wifi more often and download my torrents in a more sensible way (not through my phone willy nilly) Heck I have had 1 month where I hit 1.1 TB as I used my phone to supply internet for the entire house for a couple months just because it was faster than my home internet service.

So in the end, this just made practical sense as it's easier for my wife and we don't have to watch our data when traveling in N. America. And $70 a month buys a lot of cigars.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
It's on my mind as well but I think I used my phone in a way where I just didn't care if I was on wifi or not. This past 1 month period my data was a lot lower than normal because I actually used the wifi in my office and at home which I normally don't do. I guess your lifestyle will determine if it's worth it. $70 a month difference made it worth it for us to switch.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] noidea24:
Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
Yeah I took that into consideration. Now my wife can just press a button on her iPhone to get her hotspot going and as for me I know the work arounds so I'm fine with it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
this is true

however

using pdanet still uses data

so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle

u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle

which could negatively impact ur data speeds

and hence ur pdanet speeds

vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled

only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage

ill believe it when i see it

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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan

beware

if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle

u will get booted from that plan

full stop

just happened to me without any warning

in fact prob worth u calling into vzn

to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mac796:
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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan

beware

if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle

u will get booted from that plan

full stop

just happened to me without any warning

in fact prob worth u calling into vzn

to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked[/QUOTE]

That's allot of data dude. I don't think I have ever gone over 50. I been thinking about getting on that new plan from my grandfathered one. But something scares me about it. There's got to be some kind of catch. I dunno lose my discount to. But It would save me 40 bucks. Did they let you get on the new plan?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] noidea24:
Just throwing this out there since the topic is still active, I've used 37gb so far with a week left until it starts another month.

Speed test is reporting my down at 28-33mbps, which is what I got when I first started the plan. I haven't touched any of my hotspot because I don't need to.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
that sounds solid. have u noticed any slowdown after going past the 22gb threshold? and r u using during/in "high congestion" times/areas?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] noidea24:
I'll be in Macon today, and I'll run a few speed tests and a download around 3. That's when most schools are getting out and people get off around here.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
In speaking to a Verizon tech because I wanted the full story this is what happens when you go over 22GB (It will be increased soon I hear).

Once you hit 22GB you are no longer on the "Priority" list to connect to 4G. So if you are home, at work, the movies, you will still connect perfectly fine with ZERO throttle.

If you are at a Football game, Concert, somewhere with a dumb amount of people, then you will be down the list to connect to 4G but once you are connected you still are not throttled.

This was my deciding factor and it seems now I am saving $81 this month having switched both my grandfathered unlimited plans to this new unlimited plan. I have used about 28GB this cycle so far with 17 days left to go. I live in L.A. And have not had issues.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
thx poets. ive heard the same from vzn cust svc reps but remain skeptical. good to hear that u havent had any issues post-22gbs. i also live in la, so ur positive exp thus far is great to hear :)

fyi i was able to get vzn to price match tmobiles current unlimited plan cost. took more than 1 call, but worth it :) basically $100/mo for 2 lines. that includes line access fees and taxes. that match was for a 12 mo period - thereafter, the line access fees and taxes are charged normally.

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:) eager to hear how it goes!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] noidea24:
Boop boop, commenting again.

I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.

It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
That sucks to hear. I was also considering moving from the grandfathered plan to the new one. Idk why it's so scary to give it up..
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
I have the new UDP and I was at 80 gigs in a billing cycle. Never was throttled. I will say it depends on where you live. If you live in a big city then more of a chance to get throttled than if you live more out in the county
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
If that happens to me I will rip Verizon a new one. They specifically said there is no throtteling, only delayed 4G connections if you are no longer on the priority list.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
thx for the update... was afraid of that... fckn vzn and their doubletalk smh... which apps do u use to check connection speeds?

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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] noidea24:
I use speedtest by ookla, and I run it on 3 different servers to attempt to eliminate variances and achieve an average.

As far a internet connection speed booster, the only thing I can see actually helping would be all the network tweaks in the "lspeed" app.

My speed has since came up a little, but not by much. Still hanging out around the 1-2mbps range. For reference I live in Warner robins, sometimes traveling to macon, Georgia. It's nothing like Atlanta but it's a little crowded.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
hmm doesnt sound promising. i live in los angeles. obvi pretty dense. ill report back with my results once i go over 22gbs (currently at 17 with 3 wks left in my billing cycle).
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
I said it before and I'll say it again. If you live in a large city then the chances of being throttled is a lot greater to happen than if you live in the middle of no where. I am on the new UDP and last month I hit over 80 gigs and no throttling happened. As I live in the middle of no where so not as many people as compared to a larger city. Now I am sure if I went to Richmond va I could almost bet ya I would of been. But you knew what you was getting in to when taking the new UDP that they might throttle ya so don't get all mad that it happened to you.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
ummmm... thx r u a vzn cust svce rep? :)

ppl have a rite to get angry if they get throttled after specifically being told by vzn that that wouldnt be

thats the whole pt... they were not told accurately by vzn"what they were getting into"

while i dont understand the pt of ur post

i do agree

i simply assume that i am going to be throttled cuz i live in a big city

regardless of vzn telling me ow

but ill find out for sure and shr results with folks that care :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
But everyone was told by the plan. Don't care what a rep said as most reps didn't know anything about the plan in the beginning. It stated from day one after 22 gig you could see a slowdown in your area as they would prioritize those who hasn't hit the 22 when there was tower congestion. What's so hard to understand there? Everyone who was slowed down was after they hit their 22. Sure there's more of a chance to get throttled in a larger city as there is more of a concentration of people in a bigger cities than people that lives in smaller towns and counties. So they have no right to get angry. Ignorance isn't an excuse. No I am not a Verizon rep just a lucky person not to live in a large city so I can enjoy full data speeds lol
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
slowdown and throttling are not idential

is wut it is

enjoy the small town life and truly unthrottled data :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
Just noticed this....I've been on unlimited since the first Blackberry release and there have been times I've used over a gig. In the last two years I've used upwards of 3 to 400 gigs probably 15 or so times. In the past year I have used nowhere near the data as I am not on the road for work any longer. I don't use my phone to tether much and even though I do have the carrier provision disabled I just pay for tethering when I need it (With my discount it's only .62¢ a day). I see no issues, but it's still in the back of my mind if I do start using that much data again.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
Actually yes it is. To throttle something is to restrict slowdown the regular flow. Be it air, fluids, or data speeds. Slowdown is a word carriers chooses to use because throttling leaves such a bad taste in people mouths over the years. It is one and the same. Nothing says I won't ever be throttled. It could happen. Nothing is certain that's for sure.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
I've ripped them a new one many times...Once your off the old unlimited there's now going g back!!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
Just watch it as they hit me back in sept when I had the old UDP. As of now I can tell no real difference between the old and new UDP. Just my bill is way cheaper and I have unlimited text and minutes. I now pay $88 a month now for one line when the old plan was way more as I paid $20 for unlimited texts and had like 1400 min. Then the UDP was like $40 or $50 a month on top of the other things.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
I called to check on pricing. I have four phones. 3 smart, 1 dumb. I'm in unlimited and wife and son are at 4 gb a month each. For me to switch to unlimited for for three and keep the one non smart phone it was only gonna save me line 20 bucks. The Verizon rep told me that he would never get rid of the grandfathered plan. Wife is stay at home and son will be fine with what I pay for. I'm just too scared that if I give up the old plan I'll be screwed. As of now, I do that use anywhere what I used to use. I've used 62 gb. And data resets tomorrow. I never have any speed issues; always lightning fast here in Grand Rapids, Mi.....
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
If they wouldn't have took away my UDP then I would still keep it. I had no choice in having to get the new plan. As I have ATT UDP and well where I live the coverage is bad. We need good connection where I live.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
word to the wise

figure out wut the data limit is after which pt vzn will automatically kick u off the grandfather plan

i believe it is 200gbs/billing cycle

but u should confirm for urself with more than 1vzn supervisor amd get it in writing

that is wut happened to me

just kicked me from the grandfathered plan with no warning and gave me the reason after the fact

u technically have an unlimited plan

but the reality is that u dont anymore now that vzn is trying to move ppl off that grandfather plan

so it is worth u figuring out the details if u really want to keep it

just fyi
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
Verizon is the best here...I read either last year or sometime that the limit was 100 gb. But never actually confirmed it. I do follow the forums and read up alot on phone and tech so I new they were "limiting" grandfathered udp which is bull****. Anyway I'm just happy I have no reason any longer to use that much data for work..

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How much data were you using that they kicked you off?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
I know with me I was 300gigs but it was my only source of internet where I live so lots of Netflix and Hulu. Now I am at about 80gigs for the first month. I have satellite TV so no need for Hulu or Netflix so it saves a lot on data.I heard between 200 and 250 for the old data plan. If I knew where my letter is I could tell you exactly.

Just keep in mind they can cancel that old UDP at anytime if they really wanted it. I feel this new UDP is a last ditch effort to move people off the old plans. I feel after while they will terminate all the old plans.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
i went over 200gb per billing cycle

vzn told me that was the cutoff pt

is that accurate?

who knows

thats why i recommend u call vzn

speak with more than 1 SUPERVISOR

get the data "limit" number

get their name dept and eply id or internal ext

and try to get it in writing from them

EDIT:

if u have been with vzn for a long time

(for me >12 yrs)

and always pay ur bills on time

u can get onto vzn new udp

and get price matched to tmobiles udp

which is $100 for 2 lines

that includes line access fees

also includes taxes

if u get a vzn supervisor on the line

he/she should match the vzn udp cost to the tomobile udp cost for at least 12 mos

this all assumes that tmobile is still offering this lto

tmobile was at recently as this wk
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
I couldn't agree more. They want these old udp gone...I am a cord cutter, but have comcast and average around 900 gb a month with them. (Can't believe ISP is now doing data caps_1tb limit) anyway, I'm just gonna try and stay below 80 and hope it lasts. If I'm not dl my roms, and crap all the time I'll be alright. I can now use work internet for work....
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
100% rite in that vzn can cancel the old udp at anytime

and now vzn has even more reason to

cuz if vzn does

vzn will just pitch the new udp

to be fair

good play by vzn to even allow the gradfathering in of the udp until now (and for however long it lasts)

silly thing is that vzn makes more $ off us on the old udp vs the new udp (sales $... obvi cant say for sure wrt profit $s)

but in this case vzns concern is more with our data usage than $s generated from us old udp users

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agree on isps and data caps

i know this is off topic

but directv has an $80/mo

its for new customers

2 yr term

fiber optic internet no data cap

and cable tv

but prob not worth it for u

since u cut the cord

either way just fyi

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agree to disagree :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
It might be, I pay 47 and change after taxes for 75 mb. Speed. It's very consistent and works great with PS4. I have Netflix and Roku. And with my Comcast I get on demand with the Roku app. news and crap is just local channels, with antenna. I get around 60 channels with my antenna and They are mostly 1080 run thru media center and also use that as my pvr
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
so the directv will give u 125 channels

but not all regional stuff

tis xtra

which sux

cuz for me

means no doyers or lakers home games

note that the 80/mo is pre-tax
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
How fast is the internet. I'm also on fiber, which is it more consistent.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
dunno

havent yet switched

but i was told speed is up to 18 mbs
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Milkman328:
Ya, that worries me for online gaming...Anything below 30 and more than 1 connection I'm lagging....

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My son would be sad as well
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
yep

they may have faster options
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Why are people just giving up their old unlimited plan instead of selling it before switching? I'm scared of the new plan but if I do ever get rid of my old one I'd sell it
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
personally i did not have an option to sell

vzn was going to cancel my old udp

so i had to get a new plan
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] cntryby429:
How would you sell a plan that's tied to you?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Looks up Verizon assumption of liability
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] cntryby429:
Interesting. I would consider it but I've had this phone number for almost 15 years now and it would take quite a bit of dough to convince me to change it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
You would keep your number.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mac796:
I had no idea you could sell it. I'm unsure about going to the new one myself. There is some kind of catch down the road. I have never been throttled either.

Geez there some on there for 4000 bucks
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Exactly. I average around 30-40 GB a month for like 8 years now. Never been throttled and I can use hotspot as much as I want.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mastamoon:
Ive thought about giving up my grandfathered UDP also.. I use like 3GB a month.. So I really wouldnt have to worry about ever hitting the 22GB limit and such.

What bothers me is how the OP, while staying "unlimited" has to limit himself on the new plan. That's not very unlimited to me and is why I don't really want to switch.. on pure principal.

Torn.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mac796:
They have been trying to get us if this plan for years. Far as I'm concerned, If staying on it sticks it to the man a little longer so be it lol.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] peterlee928:
forget abt principle

money talks

if ur using 3gb/mo

then forget abt the new udp

would make more sense to consider a new "limited" data plan

u will save $

and i believe the new limited data plans have rollover data

however

these plans may actually throttle after u go over ur agreed upon data

regardless

u bpaying more with ur existing plan than with a new plan (udp or o/w)

food for thought :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DaPoets:
I called Verizon again just not to confirm that they do not throttle as I'm way over my 22gb threshold and they said again that it's the connection to 4G that is delayed in congested areas, not the speed of the 4G.

Additionally I told them that my wife wants us to switch to T-Mobile as they have a promo for $100 for 2 lines w/ unlimited data, talk, text. Verizon price matched me right away w/ no issue. So I'm at $100 a month on Verizon now w/ 2 unlimited lines (was on the grandfathered, I'm the OP in this thread) and now I'm saving a LOT of money w/ this price match, and being able to use data in Mexico and Canada (going to Mexico next month and wife is Canadian), plus being able to use the hotspot even though it's 10GB w/ the press of a button instead of the backwards hack is just so much better... Apparently if you use the tether hack it then doesn't count against your 10GB as an FYI.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mastamoon:
I have and will continue to sometimes use more than that (when Im on vacation and let the kids tether to my phone n such). So a limited plan doesnt really interest me at all.

But reading here that VZW is price matching TMobile is very interesting.. 3 Lines unlimited on VZW would be 170, on Tmobile its only 140.. Thats like 100 bucks a month less than I pay now (but includes ins and roadside on 2 lines) for an unlimited line and a 4gb shared plan for my other 2 lines.

Interesting.