yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G4 General] br0adband:
Well that's your experience talking, obviously. The point is: if you want the latest and greatest version of Android, you're not going to get it from your device OEM manufacturer or your carrier unless you're using a Google Nexus or Pixel device, period.

If you do want it, it's available, right now, with various custom ROMs, if not and you're content with the old stock security patched version you're stuck with then keep right on using it.

And don't presume LG is going to push Nougat for the G4 nor any carriers either (because they would get the code from LG which may not be providing it), there has been nothing officially announced, it's all rumors at this point - the phone is now officially 2 years old and LG is done with it in terms of development.

You have a G4 that can do basically anything you want and if what you want is stock then so be it.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
we were in that period of time for update. all LG's receive 2 updates

G4 only 1. i beleive the 2 year end it in april 2017. we should have the update lest in JAN 2017. they sai nothing we expected as all others phones from LG. releasing 2 updates during the 2 years. so i think we are entitled to a update. as other LG phones.
[G4 General] :
The first answer:

the second answare:

We are sorry, but unfortunately we do not have any official updates on the upgrades.
[G4 General] Mujo Nispe:
I got the 2nd one. Pozz. :good:
[G4 General] Jacksoft87:
Surely the update will NEVER come. Also because it's really late to release 7.x on an ex-topend device.

By the way, still releasing 7.0 now it's ridicolous.
[G4 General] :
Pozz. :good:
[G4 General] mauecky:
I just asked LG SUPPORT livechat POLAND for the update to 7 - Nougat for LG G4 H815:

LG consultant - unfortunately, for the moment we do not have such information.

:D
[G4 General] tntnt:
Just asked LG Portugal - at the moment, they don't know anything.
[G4 General] Phoenix204:
Contacted LG Canada - they said I should contact my carrier. Apparently their policy is to not answer questions about software updates because they don't want everyone to call in and ask for that information. Sounds like a load of bull to me.
[G4 General] NuclearBastard:
Has anyone even tried contact LG's HQ support in Korea?

I swear I spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to contact them via email, and I couldn't find it anywhere.

Something like "hey guys, earlier this year you announced that G4/V10 will have Nougat by Q2/Q3 2017, and so far nothing.

Lots of LG representatives across the globe seem to be confused and uneducated about the matter... could you please give us the final verdict for all different G4 versions?"

I'd personally take it further and even attach them this exact XDA thread URL.

Good luck to whoever finds a way, let alone getting a final answer from them about it.

We have to get some kind of closure to this pain in the ass.
[G4 General] medo18:
Even Nokia 6 will get Orio, shaaaaame LG
[G4 General] ijmm:
Same from LG Brazil.

I want to wait for the official Nougat, but the neglect of LG is almost making me use the V29a.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
ypu should also mentioned that we a pissed at them so much secrecy .. because they leave us on MM. even though 5x got nougat and oreo. being similar only camera differs. many user are pissed and dont want to deal with the support you given us.. if this is all about bootloops its not our fault. many will switch brands becuase of this .. this is no way to treat you customer with no updates when we should it have it when we were still in the 2 year cycle. LG life good... let me tell you with no nougat leaving us at MM when we deserved nougat as your major number 2 update .... life is not good...

yes someone send it to korean LG>
[G4 General] jiangchen:
Life is bad

I have a LG G4. Bootlooped. Managed to sent it in for repair on the last day of my warranty.

I bought a 5X as a replacement while I wait for the repair. Now I am back to G4 as I like the camera a lot. Apart from that, the G4's screen has a lot of ghosting, the phone hangs randomly, and stuck in MM.

I have seen some reports mentioning hat the 5X will bootloop as well, I have not used my 5X all that much so it is still fine, will not be able to fix it on warranty if it bootloops in the future.

The recent Pixel XL is also made by LG. With crap screen according to a lot of reviewers. LG is always a step behind or some of their hardware is always inferior.

LG should leave the smartphone market. Slow software release, un-fulfilled promise of update, inferior hardware, bootloop possibility and what not should guarantee their demise soon.
[G4 General] divineBliss:
"LG mobile division keeps bleeding money in Q3 2017"

https://m.gsmarena.com/lg_mobile_division_q3_2017-news-27937.php

I wonder how this bad news will affect LGs decision on rolling out Nougat to G4?
[G4 General] Dark_Assi7:
I think is official that nougat wouldn't come for LG I talk to LG Portugal and there are no update on development and no plans to do it.. So I think I'm leaving LG..
[G4 General] jmarius:
I'll wait November if this month not have Nougat, flash "H815 Nougat Stock [v29A][Int. variant][Official]" and I will live until I smash phone or get bored :D

But yee LG updates suck. 6.0 android....
[G4 General] Derrick21:
Just flash it. Overall performance is much better than in 6.0 . Ram management is sooo much better. Can't speak much for battery cz everyone uses their phone differently
[G4 General] Ugglaimossen:
Same for Sweden. I actually installed v29a (H-Rom). Couldn't wait :) it is very good. But it has security patch from 1 July. Another thing LG don't do, update to the latest security patch.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
i have a bad feeling that there wont be a nougat release for rest of the world.. F*** LG.
[G4 General] gentr:
oh yeah F*** LG and nougat
[G4 General] evrk:
So we don't even have an official answer about Nougat? It's like LG updated only the Korean models and gave the middle finger to the rest. LG is completely dead for me. Whatever they touch they make it crap. G4 was crap, V10, V20 and G5 the same. Nexus 5X got issues as well. Pixel 2 XL screen is utter crap and its made by LG. Just stay away from this scam company.
[G4 General] dah-nee-EL:
The email that I sent:

Hello!

I have an LG G4 H815 International version, Android version 6.0 MM, legally bought in Romania. Despite the fact that it had the infamous bootloop problem, also display issue (image retention) and microphone defect, I'm still very fond of it. Think about it, 3 times in service!

The only thing that it's missing and bothers is the promised update to Android 7 Nougat that the Korean version F500 got. I dont want to be rude, I'm not in position to demand. I only want, if it's possible, that an official statement it's released: will we get Nougat or not? The suspense is maddening! I think that's the least we deserve, to know if our (international) devices will get the SO update. And I ask you because none of the local LG cannot answer this question.

Kindly waiting for your response. Thank you in advance!

And the response (in korean):

안녕하세요. 고객님 LG전자입니다.

저희 LG전자 제품을 애용해 주셔서 감사합니다.

한편으로 제품 이용에 불편 많으셨겠습니다.

루마니아에서 구입한 해외향 제품인 경우

국내와 다른 부분으로 정확한 내용을 확인하여

안내 드리기 어려움이 있습니다.

번거로움을 드려 죄송한 마음이나

현지 LG전자 서비스로 문의하시어

상세한 상담을 받아보시기 바랍니다.

■ 루마니아 LG전자 서비스 0312283542

어렵게 연락 주셨습니다만, 도움드리지 못해 죄송합니다.

늘 건강하시고, 즐거운 하루 보내세요.

감사합니다.

---------- Post added at 08:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

Gogle translate:

Good morning. Your customer is LG.

Thank you for using our LG products.

On the other hand, you have been inconvenienced in using the product.

For international products purchased in Romania

Check the correct contents in other parts of the country

There is a difficulty to guide.

I'm sorry for the hassle.

Contact your local LG service

Please contact us for further information.

■ Romania LG Electronics Service 0312283542

I have difficulty contacting you, I'm sorry I can not help you.

Always be healthy and have a good day.

Thank you.

---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

So.... nothing :(
[G4 General] Xprio88:
Annoying when they can't even give a coherent answer that didn't even make any sense may be partly due to Google Translate but they can't even answer the question you think if anyone could it would be them
[G4 General] phonexpert_alex:
Da-i in p**a mea.

So they redirected you to the RO service center from LG. I still know someone from there, since I worked a few years ago in BuCUResti. I might just ask him if he heard something.
[G4 General] Velkyrix:
Honestly I just need a confidence boost because im really anxious when it comes to flashing v29.

Because I have a bl locked H815L, the chances of it ****ing up and me not having a way back are much higher...

And I also don't want to risk my warranty.

So unless someone gives me a kinda safe and almost guaranteed to work method & confirms it doesn't void your warranty I guess im sticking to Marshmallow :(
[G4 General] Xprio88:
Wouldn't that just be soft bricking your device then you could just re-flash your original firmware and be on again but possibly with your data completely wiped I haven't rooted my phone in a long time so haven't been doing any thing with it for some time now and this is my first LG phone.
[G4 General] F-L-Y-E-R:
Ha ha, this is true. EVEN Nokia 2 which is only 99 euro will come with Nougat out of the box and will get Oreo update LOL
[G4 General] kessaras:
Now it's too late for that.

What you should talk about is nougat not oreo.

Don't expect Oreo here , lmao.

All phones have around 2 to 2 and a half year support.

That's a marketing plan and they r right. G4 won't sell like s8 , iPhone x, and generally all new phones, so there is no support.

Besides be happy that at least we got Korean nougat. Even with one or two issues , face unlock and radio, we still have a full flesh nougat.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
i realized no one knows.. the only one its the person that makes decisions maybe the C.E.O of LG. you need to go higher then just an employee
[G4 General] HasanVersion:
[IMG="lg"]https://i.hizliresim.com/ZO3rn3.png[/IMG]

I just asked situation to Lg E. They told me "We cant give the update release date because we did not complete tests yet. When we complete test users will able to download it
[G4 General] tylerberk:
English:

If the last checks were not completed, then why would you ask South Korea to distribute updates?

Türkçe:

Madem son kontroller tamamlanmadı, o zaman Güney Kore'ye neden güncelleme dağıtıldı diye sorsaydın ya.
[G4 General] 69Rixter:
"Riddled With Hardware Problems

OK, would you care to elaborate on those "problems". I'm pondering buying this phone/model and am curious about your statement. Also, it's now 11/2/17....has LG offered the "Nougat" to the general public in the U.S. of A?

Keep Pushin'

Rick
[G4 General] divineBliss:
No signs of LG G4 Nougat in the USA and based on their lousy Q3 profits, realistically I don't expect that they will offer Nougat updates to those who don't have it yet. But I'm open to positive thinking and miracles :lol: .
[G4 General] thekeemo:
So far I've had the OIS motor fail, two screens have the touch stop working and now it won't read sim cards.

And no nougat outside of Korea and a few countries have the beta.

Add in a locked bootloader and no root and you end up with a terrible device.
[G4 General] ferreiradanielf:
Saw an Italian guy on Twitter saying that he had the update today on the LG bridge, can anyone confirm this?
[G4 General] sockpuppetuk:
Nothing on LG bridge here in UK for OEM G4

---------- Post added at 07:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 PM ----------

Had mine 11 months with absolutely no problems but then I use it as LG intended, I just wanted a decent smartphone with a good camera. I don't need to unlock the bootloader or root it for that.
[G4 General] divineBliss:
Plenty of people used them as LG intended - some probably for close to two years problem free - until one day when the phone just quits working without any notice :)

Maybe you got one without the defect or it has not surfaced yet.
[G4 General] sockpuppetuk:
Well if it does then I will be in good company when I come straight back here to moan incessantly about it :)
[G4 General] Evzzza:
Do you have a link, please?
[G4 General] ferreiradanielf:
Yeah, sorry, thought I posted it

(Can't post links because I don't have 10 posts yet)

twitter.com /magirtiko/status/926378794914598912

Remove the space after .com
[G4 General] Mujo Nispe:
Using my h818p for about 20 months almost without any problems. Ocasional screen burn and that's it. Everything else works perfectly.
[G4 General] Evzzza:
Thanks a lot! I still have nothing but I hope we will get it soon and the wait will be finnaly over!
[G4 General] Randy_Orton91:
I think its only a fake, he wrote a new tweet an hour ago where he says the download fails to 78% and his phone is still running with marshamallow
[G4 General] Lurensu:
I live in Italy and there's no nougat update available on LG Bridge....

At this point, I think LG will never release it
[G4 General] divineBliss:
Clickable link

https://twitter.com/magirtiko/status/926378794914598912
[G4 General] Jacksoft87:
Same here, LG Bridge doesn't show any update, and devtester.ro doesn't have any info about.
[G4 General] Juujika:
Even my television got Android 7.1.2. From 5.1 to 7.1.2 is a good support.

Im not gonna buy any LG after this.
[G4 General] simuzer:
lg lie.

Most of LG G4 users, not gonna buy any LG.. because of LG lie.
[G4 General] waseemmayaa:
I got white hair waiting for g4 Nougat update. [emoji23]
[G4 General] EPa:
You're lucky. Others lost it..
[G4 General] DosenHatti:
Ymmd

Gesendet von meinem LG-H815 mit Tapatalk
[G4 General] gozilla:
Bought it new, replaced the mainboard after a month (it wasn't one of the phones affected by the bootloop issue), recently replaced the battery for safety reasons (it expanded to the point of blowing up), the screen turns automatically on from time to time with the phone just sitting on the desk (yah, I did reset the phone several times thinking it was since app causing problems - not the case), the orientation sensor lags a lot and sometimes does not respond, too much ram memory used with the stock UI, there are times when the phone lags or stops working for seconds (quite rare, but it happens), the double tap feature has its own mind lately (it works randomly), random and annoying font issues with the dialer, and many others.. Consider the fact I just it for basic stuff like calling and messaging (sms, whatsapp). I have installed few 3rd party apps (via google play) and all of them are legit and updated. I did not even consider tampering with root and such. 100% stock with the latest updates..

Simply put, LG disrespect their customers by ignoring the problems and not addressing them. How can they expect their pool of customers migrate to new phones when they are not able to deliver upon existing ones is beyond my understanding. It is most important to deliver customer satisfaction and support should they want to increase sales and customer base. But they don't seem to care.
[G4 General] 69Rixter:
Re: gozilla;74424825

Thanx for the response. I was considering this phone. Now....not so sure. And I thought LG was one of "the more reputable" manufactures.

Stay Sharp:

Rick
[G4 General] Randy_Orton91:
I have all your own problems! Never again LG!

Inviato dal mio LG-H815 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G4 General] Ugglaimossen:
Sorry to hear. I have had mine for two years. Rooted and unlocked BL. Installed many many apps, some from untrusted sources. Dropped it in the floor many times. Not a single problem. Very happy actually.

But many seem to have opposite experience. Can't say I'm too tempted to buy an LG again either after all you say and this Nougat maybe or not.

Skickat från min LG-H815 via Tapatalk
[G4 General] RuedasLocas:
Mine, till now, after a lot of falls, GPS running 12 and more hours non stop, extreme heat and cold, the device works great.

Never had a single unexpected reboot or any problem, except with GPP Remot Viewer, when rotating the phone gets kind of stuck for a while in half of the screen, but I think is an app problem, not the phone.

Maybe I'm just lucky...
[G4 General] gioxoid:
G4 has been dropped by LG almost immediately. Very slow and rare official updates released, security patches published always late compared to Samsung.....

They claimed two years support offered......not true. Some countries are still at 2016 security patches .....absurd policy for a flagship phone.
[G4 General] adnankamal851:
Totally agree

I totally agree with your point. My phone received last security update dated Oct.2016 and nothing after that. BTW, I live in Saudi Arabia. But still I noticed people from other countries have more recent security patch updates. I guess, only way to get the latest security patch is to buy a new phone. Even though my LG G4 is running LG stock Android 6.0 version and has terrible battery life, I like it and I really really really hope we get the Nougat update and soon. ITS ALMOST END OF 2017. :mad:
[G4 General] Dark_Assi7:
I contact Korean LG and guess what..

Print 1

Print 2
[G4 General] Juujika:
WOW, that was a surprise...

not
[G4 General] adnankamal851:
WOW

Really WOW. Almost all the LG reps globally are in a dilemma if the G4 will get the nougat or not. I mean, LG should atleast clearly announce, if the G4 is getting the nougat or not, that way, all the people waiting eagerly will know the stand that LG is taking "for" or "against" LG G4.
[G4 General] sbasil:
Unless they're going to surprise us with Oreo, no, I don't think we're getting any further updates. It is what it is, pitty. Other than lacking security and OS updates, it's still a pretty DANG decent phone.
[G4 General] xDave7:
Translation:

"We'd like to highlight that the schedule is based on korras and overseas will be announced separately".

They just said they didn't even announce it for G4s out of korea
[G4 General] Juujika:
Yeah, phone it self is really good so i dont understand why they are acting like this.
[G4 General] Jacksoft87:
They're just saying: "No schedule for overseas? No Nougat."
[G4 General] exakt:
LG staff are simply scambags.
[G4 General] Dark_Assi7:
Guys and if we "spam" their social networks all together until we get an answer I'm tired of waiting and contact all the **** as possible for nothing..

Nougat or Riot
[G4 General] zeppo33:
Tried the chat with LG yesterday. Chat machine answered that 7.0 was not expected before start 2018. Not really a surprise...
[G4 General] Juujika:
Maybe they are preparing to release Oreo update for G4 and thats why they didnt released Nougat.
[G4 General] Dark_Assi7:
Of course maybe the Android P tho
[G4 General] Velkyrix:
Pfft Android Q
[G4 General] raptorddd:
:D:D:D S for ****t* phone
[G4 General] anonymous1:
Not a bad phone IMHO

Just 5H!T service and support from a manufacturer that seems to want implosion in its mobile division

No wonder they're losing money hand over fist - unlocking bootloaders and being more developer friendly would go a long way

But I guess they're not taking that feedback on board

:fingers-crossed: for N before Xmas...but I doubt it
[G4 General] Velkyrix:
thats what i appreciate in one plus. They didn't give Nougat to the OP2, but they aren't voiding your warranty for unlocking bootloaders and flashing roms - and they actually supported community development.
[G4 General] F-L-Y-E-R:
Anyone knows what was the price when released? If it's over 600 usd I just wonder what people paid for...

I think nowadays it's better to spend $300 on a less know brand, update for the new device with new software out of the box after a year instead of paying $600 for the same **** service and lack of updates and moan at them for another year...
[G4 General] raptorddd:
am 90% sure we wont get it so its useless to whine about it. as much as it hurts cause they dropped support lets face it.

i called tmobile i was transfered to tehcnical support not the first guy that answered me. they said they didnt know. and if it does it will be in december. LIE. they also told me that LG knows i should call them. wich i did and yes they dont know. i complaint the lack of support and that support was dropped eralier. if they loose money with bootloops it isnt our fault. no wonder your sales are lower. and theyll keep sinking. so they did not know they say google needs to release it . told him that korean variant has it what about us. so google has nothing to do with release. told him the lg korean guy statement about not releasing nougat to v10 and G4 and then after people complaint they reverted and told us that we would get nougat. wich it didi in v10 but us G4 users only korean variant got it since like 3 months ago. imagine you buying something and not get support how would you feel. why so much secrescy why keep us on the edge. not knowing if we will get it .. why cant you guys says YES or NO. why no body knows.. am pretty sure someone knows.. but yet you guys say you dont know. ? who knows then SAMSUNG, or SONY? you guys dont know no one can give an answer.. he tranfer me to google same crap. they told me LG LG says carrier carrier says LG. and i say..... FACK YOU LG.:mad:
[G4 General] Mujo Nispe:
Dobro zboriš mudri Raptore

:good:
[G4 General] Basmatek:
I will still buy a flagship LG when it's 1/3 of it's original price. They are good phones, easy to repair, (except the bootloop issue), and they depreciate fast.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
also support gets dropped fast.:D
[G4 General] divineBliss:
How long after initial release are other companies flagships generally getting updates for? You would think LG would have made it up to us for these G4, etc bootloop issues by now :( .
[G4 General] Xprio88:
Your crazy! Never in a million years is that going to happen.

maybe if you could pay them to then possibly it would be for sale but there isn't the option this isn't Windows.
[G4 General] Evzzza:
I ran out of patience and bought ZTE Axon 7. I'm not really sure why I did that. I probably couldn't stand LG brand any more. ? For 260$ I think it's a great deal.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
i think non google brand 2 year cycle wich i think its phone gets released with certain android then 2 major updates.. we only got one. then thats it.. unless its google remeber lame excuse about v10-g4 not running well on nougat nexus 5X got nougat and has oreo... and the 3 phones are simliar very close to be the same specs..
[G4 General] Juujika:
700 EUR. First and last phone i buy at that price.

Next phone is 300 EUR china phone. Quality is the same many other thing is better.

I wonder why they keep saying that. Google need to release security updates, google need to release Nougat etc... They keep saying that google is the support of their phones, just because they are using android.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
right but the thing is... nougat is available to g4 korean. so here google already release it. here is LG's problem.

theyve dropped support. and i know they cant support you for ever but what you are in the 2 years cycle yes afterwards thats it am okey with that but only 1 major update its unacceptable. i think LG phone would soon dissapear. sales arent good.
[G4 General] windozeanti:
I'm gonna buy Huawei Mate 10 in 2 weeks. Good bye LG! Go F yourself! Good riddance!
[G4 General] Juujika:
Im looking the replacement phone too. My G4 is earlier 505 version, so the bootloop problem is almost guaranteed someday. Even if its old, it is MINT, even the leather back is like a new.
[G4 General] ijmm:
Good bye LG! Besides the s*** customer support, now my G4 wont's charge! I tested 5 different chargers and the d*** phone won't charge. I'm gonna wait until black friday and buy an mid-end, but not from LG. I believe I'll sleep better knowing my phone won't suffer bootloop or anything. LG phones never more!
[G4 General] Mahziyar:
Lg go f... Your self with your f..ing support i never buy lg phone
[G4 General] Dark_Assi7:
Anyone here can contact the Poland LG where supposedly the nougat beta was realised?
[G4 General] Penk2856:
They'll send u back to your country's support
[G4 General] DosenHatti:
Wrong place