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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] takichiman:
I updated to Nougat and it sucks. Battery life sucked, ROG doesn't work, can't lock Messenger app with fingerprint...

I rolled back to MM and now i can have my 6hours+ of SoT.

If you wanna take my advice and bear with the ugly notifications menu, do not update to Nougat.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] faizalotai:
Right now its kind of buggy,

Maybe i'll revert back MM but nougat UI is beautiful..oh..man.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] EclipseGST20:
I agree, the nougat build is really nice! Really liking the stock sms look and notifications. I updated using the Firmware App. Battery seems to suffer a bit but I'll stay on it until the final build is released
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] faeArai:
Don't know but I've 7hr+ SOT on Nougat. Can't remember any phone with that high SOT. Also Nougat became more stock-ish with EMUI 5.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] takichiman:
Battery life depends on user's habits.

I personnaly have 3 emails to sync, Messenger, WhatsApp, Pushbullet and other apps that need to sync. My data(4g) is always on. I use Spotify for 1 to 2 hours a day.

All of this takes some juice but for some reason I can get past the 5 hours of SoT on MM without any problems.

On a sidenote, I think that EMUI5 functionality to kill apps when screen is locked is kind of broken.

(Sorry for the off-topic, but these are things that people need to know before upgrading)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] i2000s:
I think you are just impatient. The new EMUI 5 has the smart control built in, and it will take a while to learn to optimize your system based on your use habit. My battery life with screen on was initially 4 hours, but after a night of optimization going on in the background and a couple of reboots following a full charge with the screen turned off for the system to optimize battery performance, my SoT goes to 7+ hours which is much better than EMUI 4. It knows what to close whenever necessary based on my usage history.

Yeah, the ROG is not working, but I don't need it anymore. From my reading, the customizable dpi feature has been available on the Android 7.1.1 based ROM. See here (in Chinese): http://club.huawei.com/thread-11707731-1-1.html

I think it will be available for future EMUI updates.

There is only one thing I haven't figured out is how to show the Huawei Health icon by default in the notification area. If anyone knows, please let me know. Thanks.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Skeletor916:
For what it's worth... to the people having battery issues: I have been running B360 for two full days and day 2 (today) is/was exponentially better battery-wise than day 1. I was MAD at the end of day 1, I'm rather impressed by the end of day 2.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
NEW

The Your Grocery List app is available in the Gear app store! Install it from the Gear app on your phone, enter your email address and PW to sign into your Our Groceries account on the watch, and start shopping! Thank you, Christoff!

Requires an account w/Our Groceries. Does not require the Our Groceries app on your phone, but that is highly recommended (it's simply a great shopping list app - once you/your family start using it you'll wonder how you got by without it). :)

You can create your Our Groceries account from the Our Groceries app on the phone, or at www.ourgroceries.com.

This is a community developed app, Christoff (developer) contacted Our Groceries and they were supportive of him releasing it. :)

Currently the app does not have "push" auto-sync w/the Our Groceries server, so use the Refresh button in the app to update before shopping (in case changes have been made to the shopping list from another client). All changes on the watch to your shopping lists are immediately sync'd w/the Our Groceries server. Christoff is investigating auto-sync from the server to the watch.

Old:

Any enterprising developers who also have to go shopping for groceries (100% of you!) - you could look into the Our Groceries app!

It's probably the best shopping list app available on Android (nearly instant sync across multiple devices, extremely flexible list management, super easy to use UI, regular maintenance and updates from developer, etc.

Would be great to have a Tizen client to view current list of items and check off as purchased from the watch.

Willing to provide beer money to help get this started. :)

UPDATE: Member cm_walkaround has started working on a native app solution for Our Groceries sync. See this post (#6).

UPDATE 2 WOOT! Christoff just announced that he released the app to the Gear store today (Feb 21) in this post (#9). It will take several days to a week for Samsung to review and approve it. They control the final actual release of the app in the Gear watch store, so hopefully they will complete their review promptly.

The app is called Your Grocery List. (Christof did not call it "Our Groceries" to avoid confusion about the source of the app).

Thanks (mine and all other Our Grocery users) for looking into this!
[Samsung Gear S3] DaWeav:
I too have been looking for something, and would really like it to sync with Google Tasks since that is what I'm presently using for my grocery list and use GTasks on my phone.

I tried the My Tasks companion app with sister android app which syncs with Google Tasks, but it's terrible on the S3. The font is way too big, and it shows you all the items in the list even when and after they are checked off so you have to scroll and scroll through the lists. Hopefully the developer will decide to change it.

If not, I'm looking for something that will only show the items on the list that are not checked off so you can maintain a large list of grocery items and uncheck only the items you need before you go to the store so the watch only displays the unchecked items.
[Samsung Gear S3] pump142:
Our groceries.. Ditto
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
So until something native arrives, this is an option, and it works surprisingly well.

Get Wearable widgets app on your watch, and companion app on your phone and complete setup and choose the widgets you want to see on your phone.

Launch the Wearable Widgets app from your watch, and scroll to the widget you want to see (from the ones you selected on your phone).

Viewing the Our Groceries widget via Wearable Widgets on your watch you can:

- Scroll the groceries list up and down

- Tap items to mark them purchased

- Tap them again to return them to your shopping list

The interaction is very much like the one on the phone, surprisingly good, actually. You can add each of your lists to your phone - just set them up in the Wearable Widgets app and they will show up in the phone.

Some screenshots and a pic below from my watch.
[Samsung Gear S3] dersie:
You are right, it works well :) thank you for the tip ;)
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Just started..

Hi folks,

just started to code a client for ourgroceries on the S3 (just asked OurGroceries if its ok for them to use the name in the app.. lets see).

Still need to implement a store for the credentials, but apart from that the minimal version is almost finished. "Features" are:

- show all lists -> select a list (also with bezel-scroll)

- show all items of selected list -> tap to cross off

For now, I am not displaying crossed off items at all (="shopping" use-case). But I plan to extend that asap.

I hope to get this minimal thing working by the end of the week and hope, ourgroceries is positive about my request.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
OH MY GOODNESS! :) :) :)

Thanks very much for working on this - will be very appreciated!!

Can you also support swipe to change lists (I find that swiping left/right is often easier than using the bezel, depending on what I'm doing). :)

The Our Groceries folks are nice, my interactions w/them have been very positive. If you haven't seen it, here's what they are saying about device support in their current FAQ...Gear doesn't even register. I expect (hope) that they would be happy for you to extend their ecosystem.

https://www.ourgroceries.com/faq#unsupported_devices
[Samsung Gear S3] Smyken:
Great News and thanks!
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Submitted

Hi folks,

the developer gave me a positive feedback and I finished & submitted the app to the store.

I also noted in the app-description, that I am a private developer and not in any way related to the OurGroceries-service.

It should take some days for the review process, but I hope it goes through.

Thanks for your suggestions, I'll upgrade the app from time to time (I do this in my free-time which is needed for other things for now).

Would be happy if you leave feedback here or in the app store.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Wow, Christoff, you didn't even give us time to start pestering you for a release date! ;) This has to be the fastest move from announce to 1.0 release I can remember seeing. Thanks very much for submitting to the store, I'll be hitting "Refresh" on the Gear app store every hour or so for the next few days. :)

Will definitely provide feedback once it's available. Thanks for providing this - closes a key gap in the watch's capabilities.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Thanks Redflea - I hope the quality is acceptable (I also really needed this app.. ;)).

Testing time was quite short, so maybe its more a 0.1-release.. however, everything seems to work.

See u!

Christof

p.s. the name of the app is "Your grocery list" (I wanted to prevent misunderstandings that this app could be made by the service-providers), but noted "OurGroceries" in the description, so I hope its find-able.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Sounds good - don't worry, I'm sure any issues will be ironed out over time (as you have time). :)

Thanks for the info on the name - I'll be looking for it on the Gear App store over the next few days, hopefully Samsung will release it quickly.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Hi again,

just to shorten your waiting time, I've some screenshots for you.

Registration might need some additional days..

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[IMG="P1"]https://anonimag.es/i/W-2.3.2-circle-2017-02-24-111212_22ee7e.png[/IMG]

[IMG="P1"]https://anonimag.es/i/W-2.3.2-circle-2017-02-24-111514_31130d.png[/IMG]

[IMG="P1"]https://anonimag.es/i/W-2.3.2-circle-2017-02-24-111534_4de83f.png[/IMG]

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] the_scotsman:
This is fantastic!

I use Our Groceries quite a lot, so having it on the watch will be so handy!!

I'll definitely grab this once it's on the store and give it a try! :good:
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Yippee! Thanks for the pics.

LOL...I go into the Gear app store and search on "Grocery" twice a day now. I'm going to have a big impact on their search metrics. :D
[Samsung Gear S3] DaWeav:
Well, thanks for your efforts, but I just tried out the parent OurGroceries app and it is way too weak for me. So I'll still be looking for something better than OurGroceries, but thanks anyway.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
[MENTION=2012333]DaWeav[/MENTION]: Just curious: what features are you missing? [MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION]: app is now available in store.

I uploaded an update today which needs another 4 days for validation.

It includes:

- swipe left/right to toggle between active/crossed off list.

- in the list of crossed off items: insert filter string to quickly find items

- if the filter string is not already existing in the list, you can add it as a new item.

- minor bug fixes

Next update will be about porting the app to other tizen watches.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Woot! Off to install!
[Samsung Gear S3] DaWeav:
First, when I tried to migrate my current shopping list and import that list into OurGroceries, they manipulated the imported data and sorted it alphabetically.

I have my master shopping list in the order I 'walkthrough' the store, so now everything was all over the place on the list. I really don't need Zuccinni at the bottom of the list since it's in the produce area which is fhe first thing I see when entering the store. Anyway, I'll give them a bit of credit as they do have 'Categories'. So, I took the time to create 16 or so Categories for food items, and took the time to place my 100s of items in their proper 'store-order' (walkthrough) categories.

But, then I ran into a major second problem with my Ourgroceries master shopping list.

Now that I had all the shopping items on the list in their proper category order with the items appearing in the order the store has them when I'm walking through the store, I don't need the 100s of items at this time, so I started removing them from my shopping list. But, when I started checking off the items, all they did was drop off the list in either alphabetical or randomly order. They don't leave the checked off items in the same order when checked off/not active. Nor do they even leave them in their category order when the items are un-checked/not active. So, if I want to re-activate a checked off item on my list, I have to search and search to find it. At least when I reactivated the checked off item, the item appeared back in it's proper category order.

I just like having a master list of items that I can go through and just activate the item I'll need since it helps me think of the items I'll need to get instead of constructing a new list every time.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
These are absolutely valid complaints - and the api does not seem to support relative ordering of the items, so you can only implement that on the client-app (you could have multiple shop-profiles that memorize the relative order items were checked). Maybe the developer can implement this feature for the client - I'll ask.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
In my experience the developer of this app has been very responsive to requests. (I've been using this app for years now - when I communicated with him early on he said that he had created the list for him and his wife to use and then over time it just took off...) :)

Anyway, if you are interested in the app if your use-case was supported, I'd suggest that you use the option in the app store to email the developer and describe the use-case (could copy-paste your post above into the email). If they see a general likelihood of a segment of their users wanting that, they will likely implement it. Your use-case might already be on their future plans. Several times when I've requested features they've either said they already had it on their list, or were investigating it for future inclusion, and those features have shown up.

The app is so strong in so many areas and they have continuously updated and improved it, don't know how my family would manage our shopping w/out it. :)
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Hi everyone,

wow - that is some instant & constructive feedback, thanks a lot :)!

You're right, this is pretty annoying. This should be easy to fix - will be in the next release (after the one that is currently in validation).

I'll try to improve that as good as possible.. I have to look at other apps how this is solved.

Right, in my current testing it was also pretty annoying to accidentally cross off an item. I'll try to make this a little safer (without adding hassle to the uix).

Currently, there is no push from the server that informs my app about changes in the lists. So this update button has to be pressed, each time you think that the list could have been updated externally. All changes within the watch-app are of course synced immediately (an offline/delayed sync would be great.. but that will take some time).

This is kind of a workaround until I can implement such a push/autosync-behaviour (I don't know how this is done in the android client.. might take some time to figure out).

Absolutely, I'll do this in the next release.

Interesting.. while programming, I figured out, that sometimes exceptions are called when clicking lists (in that case, nothing happened and you had to click it again..). This happened in around 4-5% of all clicks, so it was hard to debug.. Maybe this is related to your observation. I'll try to fix that asap (no promises).

I planned to do a separate "settings" section comparable to other watch apps as soon as there are more options to change (which will be quite soon). I wanted to implement an auto-tilt feature, so you could scroll through a list by tilting your arm back and forward (this can be turned off of course & speed and accel. will be adjustable). Goal is to not have to use your other hand to use the app (together with "Flaunt", which keeps the screen open, this should be possible).

This should be easy to do.. I will also try to implement a relative sorting feature as mentioned by DaWeav, so the order depends on how you crossed-off your items last time.. don't know how easy that is, though.

Thanks for the nice words! I really have to say, that I enjoyed this little project so far.. and making other people happy is a nice add-on.

I don't know when the next release will go online.. March will be quite busy for me, so maybe start of April? Lets see.. -

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] the_scotsman:
Just had a quick play with this. Works very well! it loads up fast, which I love!

One thing, on one list I have 3 items. But when I scroll down past the 3 items, they appear to be repeated. But this doesn't always happen, only sometimes.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Thanks for the feedback, I'll have a look at this.
[Samsung Gear S3] the_scotsman:
No worries. I'll get a screenshot as an example.
[Samsung Gear S3] dersie:
Nice to have ourGrocery list in the Gear S2/S3, thank you, it works well. Waiting for all new features described above ;)

It will be nice to have the checked item at bottom list and can uncheck if we checked by mistake.
[Samsung Gear S3] Cam Mayor:
Got your app, thank you, it works great
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
I have updated the OP and thread title to reflect the app release. :)

Christoff, if at some point you want to create your own thread for the app just let me know, and I'll re-title this thread and point it at your thread from the OP.
[Samsung Gear S3] dersie:
an issue also maybe the same ? I checked one by one all my item after finish my shopping. At the end when I checked the last I still see all the item in the list repeating. Maybe occur when check quickly and your app have not enough time to send change to the server ?

EDIT : just verify now. On Gear I have 0 item, all checked, but if I open ourGrocery the list still have 5 items unchecked. So not same list on Gear and on server :(
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
I just tried to replicate this issue and was not able to. I crossed off some items on a shopping list, opened the Our Groceries app, and the same items had been crossed off there.

I did notice a different issue - the item count for the grocery list on the List of Lists did not update - it started out with 6 items on my list, and I crossed off three items so there were three left on the list. However, when I returned to the List of Lists, that grocery list still 6 next to it.
[Samsung Gear S3] dersie:
It happen each time. 8 items, I check from the first to the 8th (in one time) and on the last I see the first on the watch and I can check again the 8 items. I check faster than the watch delete the items from the list. The result is a random check on the server.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Hi folks,

seems to be plausible - the app simply requests an item to be checked and returns immediately. I will insert an update indicator that prevents you from checking things too fast. I hope to implement a better syncing routine in the future (=delayed sync) - currently, I can only work with the functions that I got from their website (don't know how they implemented it in the app).

Sorry for the limited functionality..

Best

Christof

---------- Post added at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 PM ----------

I will fix this by auto-updating the grocery-list.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Ooo! Just got the 1.1.0 update, it is live in the store. Search for grocery, the Gear update service is broken, it never tells me when I have updates pending for installed watch apps, and didn't prompt me about this update.

Thanks very much, Christof!
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Your welcome :)

I hope to fix the bugs mentioned above asap.

best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Lindsey:
I cannot get past the login on my S3 watch The other issue I'm having is I can't get past update

I did setup a login on the Web site

What am I doing wrong,

This looks like a good alternative to Google keep
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Mh, strange - I reinstalled the gear-app (YourGroceryList) and logged in with my credentials and also 2 other test-accounts.. no problems so far. The password is also case-sensitive - maybe double-check that? The credential input still needs to be improved. The galaxy app store sometimes doesn't show the latest updates (a little buggy..), maybe a device restart and/or reinstalling the YourGroceryApp helps.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] Lindsey:
I uninstalled the app from the watch reinstalled it with the update still cannot get past the save in the login screen
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Do a "test" login on the my groceries site w/your credentials to make sure you are entering the correct email address and password on the watch. That's the most likely issue, given Christof's results.

Make sure that auto-correct on the watch isn't making a subtle change to the text you enter on the watch.
[Samsung Gear S3] Lindsey:
Great news

Now working!

Thanks for all the help
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
I used the app while shopping today at two different stores, and I felt like **** Tracy. :D For those too young to know, **** Tracy was a detective in the Sunday comics who had a watch he could make video calls on.

But I think this app is even cooler than that. ;)
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
[MENTION=8088173]cm_walkaround[/MENTION] - Christof:

Can you tell me the name of the app (the "package" name, if you know what I'm trying to refer to, not the name of the app in the Gear store).

I'm trying to launch your app from a watch face in WatchMaker app, but the WM app has a bug that is blocking launching non-Samsung apps from their built in tap action options. So I'm going to try launching your app from a command in a script.

The command will be like below, including both the app nick name and the package name:

wm_action("w_app:Your Grocery List`com.xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxxxx")

I need the nick name (which I assume is Your Grocery List) and the package name.

Thanks.
[Samsung Gear S3] cm_walkaround:
Hi Redflea,

I extracted this from the manifest:

application id="JqzWEo2vMN.OurGroceries" package="JqzWEo2vMN"

The SDK gave it a somewhat strange ID (not the usual com.* pattern).

Hope this helps.

Regarding one of the requests I got for the app in the app store: I use the watch-widget "flaunt" to keep the grocery list alive during my shopping tours. I'll try to implement this later on but for now, Flaunt works very well.

Best

Christof
[Samsung Gear S3] 10urshin:
You can run

pkginfo --listapp

in shell to list all application infos on your watch including app ids.

For some reason tizen developers go with 10 chars limit for web applications, so all web applications have random id's like that.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Excellent! Used sdb shell and then your command and it listed everything.

I'm running it in a "DOS" command window. (You can tell how old I am now.) :) The command lists all the apps but the scroll buffer in the window CMD window runs out of space. Is there a way to direct/pipe the output to a file on my (Win10) laptop?

Since I'm running the command in a shell (won't run w/just plain sdb...) is there a way to send the file to my laptop from the shell? I can't pipe it to a file on the watch and then pull it, as when I try to pipe to a text file I get "read only file system."

I have only a slight understanding of what I'm doing, if that's not clear. :D Eager, but sort of non-tech poli sci/mba type.