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[Samsung Gear S3] kangi26:
Yeah, I've been trying to find "the perfect watch". Unfortunately it kind of doesnt exist right now. The Galaxy/Frontier is far and away the best overall smart watch out there, but yeah you are spot on, the fitness tracking is kind of awful. I was doing some hiking with some friends a couple weeks back and his Fenix 5 was within 20' in altitude compared to the USFS Geology Markers, my Frontier? 200'+ difference. This was just the beginning of noticing the things that were just not right.......

So I did a bunch of research and really after a LOT of time looking at all of the different smart watch players in the game, I decided to try the Garmin Vivoactive 3 Music. The fitness tracking and the Garmin Connect app were really great, I mean REALLY GREAT. Especially when compared to Samsung Health data.

So you'd think I found the perfect watch.... Nope....... the watch overall was great, very lite, the band was really comfortable, battery life was really good, the software is a little basic, not uber fancy but very usable. BUT... the screen, oh man.... There's NO comparison to the Samsung at all. The Garmin isn't even in the same ball park.

IMO, if the Garmin can update the screen to something even close to the Sammys, they would have killer devices. As a side note the best of the Garmin devices are all sitting at the 240x240 resolution (versus the 360x360 on the Sammys)
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Any updates on this?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
This round is taking a bit longer than usual, I'm hoping this is a positive sign. The companion app may take a while to be approved for Galaxy Apps as well, but it's already approved for sale in the Play store so can be installed from there.

For those familiar with Samsung's validation process terms we entered "Under Test Confirmation" for the watch app on 10/10.
[Samsung Gear S3] Gary Brett:
That's fantastic, did I misread that though, is there an app available now in Play Store for this already but you are awaiting approval for the Tizen based app which can be installed on galaxy watch?

If I am correct what is the name of the app, did a quick search but couldn't locate anything?

Thanks again, much appreciated
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
The companion app is listed in Play store, however until the watch app is approved for sale I'd rather not release the names as it obviously doesn't work without the watch app installed. It's searchable and installable, just waiting on Samsung...

If I get a chance this evening I'll make a video of it in action to post, however I'm also in the early stages of a new project so I'm pretty busy wooing angels!
[Samsung Gear S3] Gary Brett:
That's great, thank you for clarifying this, really looking forward to seeing your end result & think it could be a great addition to the watch, in fact a desperately needed addition to the watch to save it :o

Once released I'll spread the word I know many many external forum users and social media groups would love to see this too.

Your next project isn't by any chance allowing us to bypass Samsung Health and all day track to Google Fit is it ;) :D
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Sorry, no. My new project isn't associated with Samsung devices, it's a multiplatform CAD and admin webapp. Working on the investors pitch for it atm, hoping to get enough seed to bring a decent MVP to the table for Series A.

Regarding Google Fit & Gear watches: there's already a solution available for syncing SHealth data to GFit; it syncs between the two Android apps, after SHealth data is synced from the watch to SHealth. Or did you require a solution which bypasses SHealth completely?

Syncing via SHealth is the preferred solution as it manages the sync through Gear Manager, however if you absolutely need to bypass SHealth it can be done by reading the watch data directly to GFit. It'd be battery hungry for both devices I think, but doable.
[Samsung Gear S3] Gary Brett:
Hah thanks, I wasn't honestly expecting to bypass S Health, I'd like to but not expecting too! Your spot on I can indeed sync steps & HR to GFit but it doesn't my my problem unfortunately.

Here in UK we have a health provider called Vitality, they only take data from Apple watch, Fitbit, Garmin, Polar & GFit. Fair enough I suppose so I synced data from GWatch/S Health into both Fitbit app & GFit app, but they wont accept it. Only data originating on the app is accepted by Vitality which causes me a bit of an issue, Im having to carry my phone every just to get the required amount of steps in GFit :eek:

Unsure how they know but I stepped 15000 on Google Fit, 11000 came from Galaxy Watch/ S health, 4000 direct from GFit on my handset. Vitality only took the 4000 steps :(

Only option is to move to Apple Watch, the 1 day battery and having to use an Iphone is not making me rush across despite the fact they give me an AW4 for one off cost of £29

Anyway, thanks again the very best of luck with the Assistant code, looking forward to it and appreciate your efforts

**UPDATE** - Ive just read that again, did you suggest its possible to read data direct to Gfit from Galaxy Watch?
[Samsung Gear S3] decievedthought:
[MENTION=9224011]tincansoftware[/MENTION] Have purchased your app am I the first?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
When syncing with GFit, make sure "Track activity metrics" is off and try again. It should always be off when importing data to GFit, and this might get your data into Vitality (it could just be that the phone data has priority over the import data - GFit saves sensor data as from phone or external sources).

It can't only be data "originating" from the app, however it might specifically block data tagged with an unknown app source rather than recorded from device.

Very possible, and relatively simple thanks to Google's Fit API's. All you'd need is a companion service integrated with the Fit API's and you could save the data directly to GFit.

Quite possibly, as it's now approved, however I'm not sure it's visible in the store yet.
[Samsung Gear S3] erghetto:
I too found it on playstore :p

At least now i know the name of the app ahahah

So i can search it on Galaxy store once it will be approved
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
UPDATE: THE WATCH APP HAS BEEN APPROVED

Here's the links to the apps required for this to work:

All three are required to be installed (Watch app, Phone app, & Plug-ins). The Gear app may take up to 24hrs from now to appear in the Samsung Galaxy store, the android apps are already available on Google Play.

Wingman Assistant (for Gear):

Wingman Assistant (for Phone):

Wingman Assistant (Plug-ins):

NOTE: The plug-ins should be a free install; if your store listing is showing a price other than free, please wait until the listing updates to install.

Troubleshooting tips:

Ensure the phone apps have been granted "Storage" permission in settings

If using Google Assistant, ensure TouchTask is installed and granted appropriate permissions in settings

For many tasks Wingman Assistant must be able to unlock your phone; if you have a secure lock screen, ensure "Smart Lock" is enabled and configured properly.

Due to peculiarities of Balda's Tt, accessibility surface interactions may take a long time or occasionally fail. In this case, try re-sending the command (Press "ONLINE", then top HW key to back out of Svoice immediately).

Any bugs, suggestions, etc can be sent to support@tincansoftware.com; I can't guarantee I'll see them here on xda, so please use the email for feedback.

Thanks for your patience all, I know it's been a long road to get here.
[Samsung Gear S3] Gary Brett:
Fantastic work, well done. Just before I dive in, can I confirm this will help in the following scenario:

On Galaxy Watch connected to Handset via BT or WIFI ( when phone is not nearby) I can ask google assistant for my calendar or weather or translation for example, the same as I could ask if I was talking to handset?

Does she then talk back via the GW or is it text replies onto the watch only or not at all, it replies via handset?

Just wanted to clarify :)
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Some usage guidelines:

• To set the default plugin ("Google" or "Copy"), say "Set xxxxx"

• To use a specific plugin, say its name before the query (ie, "Google xxxxx").

• Google can be selected by saying "Google", or "OK Google".

You can say anything you'd usually say to Google, however you won't get a response - only the result of the query.

To be clear, at the moment the Google Assistant plug-in only SENDS queries to Google Assistant (as it was designed to let you control devices through Google Home), it does not receive the response on the watch. The response can be found in your assistant query history. After I look at sending queries to Alexa, the next task will be returning the GA dialogue to the watch as speech.

Doing this through Accessibility services will likely be problematic, so may require using the Assistant SDK. Given how Google charge for access to the API this will require buying "credits" to use - I was trying to avoid this, but it may be the only option.
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Thanks for the app!

I seem to be getting a consistent error message when I open the app on my watch.. When I try go click to activate.. It goes online for a second and then goes back to thr error message.

I've given both phone apps storage permissions and downloaded the touchtask app... Any thoughts?
[Samsung Gear S3] diegocom:
Also mine has this problem
[Samsung Gear S3] decievedthought:
What's the application called on the galaxy store can't seem to find it
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
This is caused when the watch and phone can't negotiate a connection through SAP. I had a feeling this might happen when I pushed an update through a few hours ago; I believe the updated companion and plug-in apps are already published on Play store, but the watch app hasn't yet published the update.

I'll see how it's looking in a few hours, if the update hasn't published to Galaxy Apps by then I'll look into rolling back the update on Play store until it lands.
[Samsung Gear S3] erghetto:
The link to galaxy store app doesn't open.

It says is not available in my country (italy)
[Samsung Gear S3] decievedthought:
Never mind clicked the link but it says it's not available for me?? Has it been pulled from galaxy store?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
"Wingman Assistant", although the link in the previous post should open it for you. It might not show up for you yet, it looks like releases to Galaxy Apps are staggered across regions.
[Samsung Gear S3] erghetto:
Oh okok. We'll wait

Thanks in the meantime

Edit: instructions say to install TouchTask.

But do we need also tasker?

I have never used touchtask, thatxs why i'm asking
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Which app: watch (in galaxy store), phone or plugins (in play store)?

All should be available in Italy anyway.

Not pulled, probably just not on your store yet; each region has its own. On that topic, purchases from Galaxy Apps don't travel between regions (ie, if you move from USA to UK, you lose your apps).

No need to install Tasker, just the TouchTask plugin.
[Samsung Gear S3] nonno76:
I have just installed (Watch app, Phone app, & Plug-ins) and when I click on the watch up I have on return an Error message. Any idea on how to fix this?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
I believe this is the problem, as mentioned in this post:
[Samsung Gear S3] mrmrmrmr:
it is also not working for me.

have you made the updates sync on both platforms ?

on the phone, is it just a service ? there's no app icon to open...
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Yes, we're still waiting for Samsung to update their store with the new watch app. As mentioned, if it's not up on a few hours I'll look into rolling the apps in play store back to the version which matches the currently available watch app. I'd thought updates would have a quicker turnaround, but it doesn't look like that's the case.

The provider app is just a service, however you should get a launcher icon for the plugins app. Run this to check the installed software and test the plugins action.
[Samsung Gear S3] mrmrmrmr:
Samsung does not approve any apps in a few hours. Best shot is 3-5 days.

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there's only one plugin available and when I open it , it takes me to another app on playstore.
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
That's correct; that app has the endpoints for Google Assistant and Clipboard in it. The other app which it points to if not installed is "TouchTask", a locale/tasker compatible plugin which provides the Accessibility services for interacting with Google Assistant. You don't need to install Tasker or Locale, just TouchTask.
[Samsung Gear S3] leya_records:
Supported languages

What are the supported languages? Swedish?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Any Svoice for Gear language (ie, if you can use it with Svoice it should work).
[Samsung Gear S3] sgtslaughter64:
I'm not seeing anything in the Samsung Apps store. Can you post a direct link to download it?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Look back a few posts, I included the direct links in the post announcing its availability. If it's not showing yet it may not have populated to your local Galaxy store.
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
UPDATE:

Android apps from Play store have been rolled back to a previous version compatible with the watch app currently published by Samsung.

Please use the Play store to "update" these apps, this will render the watch app in the Galaxy store functional. The provider & plugins will be updated again once the watch app update is published.
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Thanks

So now the app says "ONLINE" but nothing else? How do we actually use it?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Tap the watch screen (you may have to tap the bottom half of the screen on some devices with this old version), and it should start voice recognition.

If you're not seeing anything happen after speaking your query double-check that the Wingman apps have been granted storage permissions, and that TouchTask is granted all requested permissions and is enabled in the Accessibility settings.

If the plug-in fails to complete, tap the screen again and press the HW back key: this resends the last query.
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Tried tapping bottom screen.. First time it said "wingman has stopped responding' on my Galaxy s9+

Tried reopening the watch app.. Tapped bottom of screen and the app changed FROM "ONLINE" to "ERROR"

ALL permissions granted for 3 apps

Any thoughts?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
That hiccup is one of the reasons I tried to push the update, once it comes through you shouldn't get that crash. The service takes a fair while to reload after crashing, which is why the watch shows "ERROR".

Try the following to resolve the issue. I've only seen this happen immediately after install (or after booting, while the service is still loading), so hopefully you'll be OK from there on.

1. I'd start by clearing the stored data for each of the apps on the phone, and restarting the phone and watch.

2. Then recheck the permissions & accessibility for the apps.

3. Test the endpoint by running the "WM Plug-ins" app; if nothing happens, there's most likely an issue with TouchTask.

4. Finally, run the app on the watch. Wait for the service connected toast, then tap the screen.

5. This version shows your query as a toast when the phone receives it, if you see your query it's working.
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Did steps 1 and 2...when I got to step 3 - running the wm plugins app... Nothing happened.. It literally just took me back to my main screen... Touchtask has all the necessary permissions and accessibility activated... Not sure why the issue?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Sorry, I forgot the plugins are the old version 119 again; running the app in step 3 won't show anything for that version. Just continue to step 4 and test it...
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Nope, still no luck after the following the remaining steps.

App keeps saying Error right after I tap the bottom of the screen
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Which watch are you using? And did you see the connection established toast on your phone when you first opened the watch app?
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Using the new Galaxy Watch 46mm

I didn't see any toast appear on my phone at all.
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
OK, no toast means the watch can't establish a SAP connection to the phone for some reason. The most obvious culprit is mismatched versions, however if you've got the latest updates from Play store the versions should match the watch app from Galaxy store.

You can try clearing the "Samsung Accessory Service" data from settings/apps, and making sure it has storage permission. Check that your watch and phone have an active Bluetooth connection, and preferably wifi as well.

If none of these work I might need you to email me your Samsung ID; I'll assign you a version which collects the app error logs so I can investigate further.

For total clarity, is your Galaxy watch the Wifi version, or GSM (ie, eSIM)?
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
I'm using the WiFi version... I'll try the Samsung accessory service method and let you know.. Thanks
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
If you could also let me know the version of each app it'd help, thanks.
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
So I just saw an update in the play store for the plugins app.. So this is how it looks at th moment :

Galaxy watch - v 1.0.0

Wingman provider - 2.2.6

Wingman plugins - 1.32.120

Im getting a consistent error on the watch after updating to plugins 1.32.120
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
Those numbers are all correct, so it's not the versions. Updating the plugins package can't affect the watch app directly, so I'm thinking the provider service isn't running properly.

It's also possible that Tizen 4.0 broke compatibility with any number of things on the watch. I've posed some questions to Samsung which might shine some light on the situation, and should hear back soon. In the meantime I'll try a few scenarios with the S9+/Galaxy Watch testbed and see if the problem comes up for me.
[Samsung Gear S3] halloarno:
Still no app in Galaxy store (Netherlands).

Is iit available for the sports edition? And for non-samsung phones?
[Samsung Gear S3] nonno76:
Good morning,

I have all the correct app installed with the right permissions set. I open the app on the watch but regardless the fact that it opens and it goes online and then Svoice opens afterwards nothing's happens on the phone(so probably No toast). I had clear data of Samsung Service Data too but no joy.

Any idea?
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
I think I may have excluded the Sport edition accidentally, it has a mic and Svoice so there's no reason it couldn't run it. I'll put that on the todo list.

Definitely available for non-Samsung phones, my main phone is non-Samsung.

Have you tried pasting the contents of the clipboard? The lack of an ERROR message suggests you have a service connection, however If no user default has been set it uses copy to clipboard. You can try prefixing your query with "Google" to manually force use of the Google Assistant, or say "Set Google" to make Google Assistant the default persistently.
[Samsung Gear S3] halloarno:
Thanks, the sports edition is exact like the s3 only without speaker.
[Samsung Gear S3] nonno76:
I do actually have an Error message. Svoice opens and after I spell any command I send the query hitting the 'send ' button' and afterwards I have the Error msg on watch with nothing happening on the phone.
[Samsung Gear S3] erghetto:
I too have gear sport and i live in italy.

App still not present in galaxy store.

I'll wait. Thanks in the meantime
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
What phone and watch are you using? I assume an S3? Also, did you re-grant storage permissions to Samsung Accessories after clearing the data and restarting?
[Samsung Gear S3] decievedthought:
Still not showing up in UK galaxy store grrrrrr
[Samsung Gear S3] nonno76:
Gear S3 Wifi and Galaxy S 8. I re-granted storage permissions to Samsung Accessories.
[Samsung Gear S3] decievedthought:
Oh it's because I have sport! Please allow it to be run on sport you shouldn't have to change anything
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
I will, it'll just take another 3-5 days after the 1.1.1 update is published as I'll have to resubmit it to enable sport.

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I do most of my testing on a Note 8 and S3, so that combo should have been a shoe in.

I'll write up something to test your connection, hopefully it'll be fixed before Monday.

I think the Android provider is still partially configured for the pending 1.1.1 update, I might have missed a key or permission when I was rolling it back.

I'll get back to you once I've got the diagnostic app ready. Be a few hours though, time for me to hit the hay.
[Samsung Gear S3] nonno76:
Ok. Thanks. I will wait for it.
[Samsung Gear S3] r4yv3n:
Not showing in Spain Store :(
[Samsung Gear S3] AlphaAnimal:
Does i need a Bluetooth connection to my Smartphone or is it enough to connected via Wifi to the internet?
[Samsung Gear S3] sgtslaughter64:
Nor in the US
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
A Bluetooth connection is most reliable, however it should still function if your watch and phone are on the same wifi network.

I think you might have a different problem: it's definitely in the US store as there's already three active US installs. Which phone and watch are you using?
[Samsung Gear S3] domtra:
Any luck testing the app with Galaxy s9+ and GALAXY watch?
[Samsung Gear S3] eleckito21:
Anyone can make a video to see the result of this work ?

Envoyé de mon SM-G930F en utilisant Tapatalk
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
The crash data showed up in my console just now, and it suggests the issue is Oreo compatibility. I'll have to bring the code into line with Oreo's new behaviours, but I think I know which areas need amending.

Until then I doubt it'll work properly on Android 8, sorry. EDIT: it should actually work with the version available in the Galaxy store, as it doesn't target SDK28. Once it publishes I'll sort out some coupons for Oreo users so you don't have to buy the provider app twice to get the Samsung version as well.

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[Samsung Gear S3] sgtslaughter64:
Google Pixel 2 XL and SM-R760
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
If you're not seeing the app it's because of your phone. I didn't include non-Samsung phones in the target device list for my Samsung binaries, once I update this list you'll be able to see it.
[Samsung Gear S3] Hamperdhanger:
This is crazy, how do you launch an app (that costs $4) without testing for Oreo compatibility!?!
[Samsung Gear S3] tincansoftware:
What's crazy is doing that, and then restricting the device availability to 80% Oreo devices.

As mentioned, the version chugging its way through Samsung works fine on Oreo. The version on Play store needed to be amended to target Oreo so it meets Google's new listing policy, obviously I missed something in the SAP code.