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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] internetadam4657:
hate to bump such an old thread but i received my third replacement yesterday and after the 1st day of use i have the RLoD already.

the battery was fully charged via tilt #2 at the beginning of the day. i switched the full battery over to tilt #3 and left it plugged in since i was taking a 2 hour drive in the evening and needed the gps and don't have a car charger outlet available and i completely drained the battery.

i left tilt #3 plugged in overnight with battery in. got the dreaded red light and so i let it sit overnight and it was still red in the morning. i put the battery into tilt #2 and let it charge up to 50%. i put the battery back into tilt #3 and it turned on and showed a 75% charge so i plugged it in to charge and the amber light came on. after no more than 5 minutes the light went off and i did not even get a flashing green light. so now the battery is in tilt #2 to fully charge and i'm just going to write them both off since at&t is sending me a 4th tilt. so i'm just going to fall back on my 3125 with 6.1 until the new one comes and i'm going to flash both bad tilts back to at&t's stock 6.1 so i don't get charged for being out of warranty.

on at&t's warranty replacement:

i was offered an exchange for a different model phone but being that the tilt is the king of the hill of at&t devices and everything else is a downgrade for me i had to take a 4th tilt and they would't even offer me a new one. the only different model that is not a downgrade is the iphone 3g and because of the way at&t and apple have things setup, i can't get the 3g which i would love to get btw :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] naheelja:
Try This methord - small sollution

Guys i also had the same problem.wat i did was i removed the battery and charged it with a separate desktop charger(the charger which battery should be inserted separately and charge).then i inserted the batry to the 4n.wow it works like previous.now u can charge the 4n using ur normal charger.

Before this i checked the battery power status.i recognized battery was completely dead and no power at all.that's y i used a separate charger for charge the battery.

I hope this will help to u guys also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] naheelja:
Give a try- a small sollution

Guys i also had the same problem.wat i did was i removed the battery and charged it with a separate desktop charger(the charger which battery should be inserted separately and charge).then i inserted the batry to the 4n.wow it works like previous.now u can charge the 4n using ur normal charger.

Before this i checked the battery power status.i recognized battery was completely dead and no power at all.that's y i used a separate charger for charge the battery.

I hope this will help to u guys also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andridcold99:
red light death

my tilt never woke up sunday morning so ive been researching in my spare time at work today and finally its charging i havent turned it on yet but no more red light and ive had the phone down to the guts due to broken screen dont ask ok but anyways im familiar with the internals on the htc took it apart today checked the connections everything seems fine well all else fell i search and search for answers what i have come to the conclusion on mine battery cpr haha yes it freakin works or did for me anyway i just plugged in the usb to my pc and just worked the battery back and forth making the red light start to flash until i eventually got the green amber light the battery prongs appear fine so theres no clue i guess just bad design in the battery terminal asbly stock rom for those on the point of virus or bad rom maybe other issues with that and the connection problems or what not but red light death for me is def a issue with maybe the phone not recognizing the battery or input power problems i would like to however state that this happen to my phone after charging off a beat up v3razr wall charger...hmm maybe helped my red light death so there you have it in my opinion which i had no choice i bought my phone off ebay almost a year ago and have never really had trouble with it i hope this info is useful to someone and thanks to you guys that helped come up with some sort of solution i dont have new htc touch pro money quite yet hahah
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] markpv:
Well here's an easier solution I have found to at least get your phone to come back to life somewhat. Take the original battery the one with the metal looking X underneath. Take a piece of scotch tape or something (scotch works best) and put it over the battery contacts should be able to cover them all with a strip. Then notch out the tape on the two end contacts + and - that is. Easiest way to notch it out seems to be taking the stylus and notching out so the tape no longer covers those contacts. Then do the same thing with the contact right next to the - contact. So in the end you should have just one contact covered by the tape. Now insert the battery and plug the charger in. Should come to life. Not positive as to why this works just have some theories. Not responsible for any damages caused by this if any at all. Also when you get the phone back on take the tape off because I think it may overcharge the battery if you don't. Better safe than sorry. I just wish my Tilt would stay connected to 3G but no luck... oh well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lastelement21:
method that worked for me!

Do not try rapidly removing and inserting the battery. (That method was recommended elsewhere... dont remember where)

I successfully recovered from the red light of death by using the following method:

Strip a USB cable on its miniport end, you will need the red and black wires.

Next remove the battery from the phone.

Plug your hacked usb cable into your computer (do not cross the wires once you have plugged it in!)

Apply the wires directly to the battery terminals, black to neg, red to positive.

After just a minute of this I was able to pop the battery back into the phone and charge it normally. I guess the battery power was too low, the phone thought the battery was toast? :D

I only wish I had tried this method first. Do not rapidly tap your battery in and out! It fixes the problem too, but I fried my 3g connectivity by doing that. Couldnt place/recieve calls or use internet until switched to Edge only. :eek:

EDIT: The method mentioned in the previous post may also work... and sounds easier. Probably does the same thing: forces the phone to charge the battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] markpv:
Wish I had come up with this before hand because I fried my 3G as well. Luckily I guess it wasn't my phone anyways I was just going to buy it from him if I could get it to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petek7:
Solution!

lastelement21.. you rock!!

I stripped a USB like you said and I guess supercharged the battery? Whatever. It f'in worked. Awesome.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Baldslap:
So Far So Good

So far "jump starting" the battery is working fine! Awesome deal...thanks. I tried the rapid battery removal/installation before I found this. Good thing it didn't work for me. The 1st time I tried your fix, it went amber and I was able to turn it on and see everything was there. It did, however, turn off after a minute and go red again. I tried again and just let it charge while "off." It's been charging normally for about 10 minutes now. I believe that, though charging, the battery can't handle the power initially...so just let it green up. Again, great fix!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jsgjm:
Red light work around

OK...folks...i tried both of these to fix the red light issue to no avail. However....I kind of combined both concepts and ended up getting it working. I charged a new battery in a desktop charger so that i knew i had a good and fully charged battery. The new battery still cased the red light on the phone when plugged into the charger. I put tape across all the contacts except for the "+" and "-", so that only thing that phone could get was power, assume that that other contacts have to do with some logic and the charging cycle. I tried to power up the phone and the light turned green, but did not power on the phone. I pulled that battery out and removed the tape, and then put the battery back in and everything powered up and works great. I am assuming the problem is a bad status between the phone and the battery that the phone can't recover from and it gets stuck in a red status when charging. What id did somehow reset the status on the phone. Does this make sense to anyone else?:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] negro_v8:
look i got the perfect form i buy here in chile an chinesse charger for the batery (only for the bat) y charge my bat and my phone turn on..... and then can i charge my phone normaly i think its a bat problem. so with the red light of dead a make my phone live again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] leslie50:
charge puzzle

My Tilt Kaiser was dropeed and since then I can not charge normally. I now have to remove the battery then replace battery then plug in to charge after the charge I turn on to a soft reboot each time which makes it a real hassle when syncing. If I don't follow this procedure I have no charge light at all therefore no charge. Any suggestions what to do??? many thanks in advance

leslie

Maybe this is discussed somewhere but I missed it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] starkore:
I have a 2nd hand Orange SPV M3100 (UK) though i believe that just how orange brand it and inside it says HERM100, so a HTC Hermes 100 i guess. Anyway i had the problem of the red light, not charging/not turning on etc except my phone had slowly been degrading in performance over time constantly crashing, colours fading, screen going white etc until i got the red light issue, anyway now i somehow managed to elevate it to backlights on, green light, boots to just past the orange splash screen and then the screen would go funny (i kept pushing the screen to keep the image up but eventually it just went) and now its currently plugged in, amber light, dullish grey screen but my comp recognized it a minute ago (started installing drivers) anyway what i did, i wedged a bit of card inbetween the body of the phone and the battery to push it right into the contacts, left it to charge for like, 2 minutes or something and then i could turn it on with a blank screen, but green light. I sort of lost myself to be honest while trying loads of stuff but just thought, that might help someone? :P and keeps the thread a bit active lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kwesi24:
I think your battery will not accept charge and needs replacing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] t3nsiun3:
red light of death

so my tilt started to act funny after i dropped it on hard concrete. it would charge to 100 per cent and after a short call or listening to a tune or two it would die. try to power it on and after a few tries it would power up but the same problem. fianlly after a few days it went dead compleatly....rlod.

i tried chargin it with and without sim card and mem card but it didnt do it good.eventually i stumbled over this thread and surprisngly doing cpr on the battery while plugged worked great. i jacked the battery about 50 times and after that it booted like a charm.

will check back later to see if it actually did the trick but so far so good.

thanks for the help guys
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Themonkman:
Wow... 301 posts and 3 days of hourly reading :-O im finally done reading every post in this thread :-D HA! BUTTT... :-( doesn't solve my problem... A few good laughs at a few funny posts though (like the guy that p'd on his Tilt hahaha and the guy that was explaining how the htc could feel threatened by an incoming wireless connection and then commit suicide :-P hahaha :D)

Anyway.. I'll keep on searchin...

Brian
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DJBerg:
Yup. RLoD after dropping one year ago. Haven't needed a phone since then. Now going back to see if I can fix it.

Keep reading...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drokkon:
Okay, well I'm glad some of you have experienced this, but what's the deal with it happening to SO MANY people on the same night?!?

I got mine on the Thursday before the Friday that the Tilt was released in early October - is it the amount of days it's been running, or the fact that it's near the new year? Hm...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drokkon:
Thanks for the suggestions. No luck. Won't turn on no matter what combination of things I try, nor does it turn on when plugged in without a battery.

What was that about hard-resetting it? Can you hard reset it if it won't turn on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lifesaflaw123:
good point! I didn't even think about this. My first thought in response to your post was that att sent out an update or something to catch people flashing their phones but its happening to people who didn't. I'm afraid my local att is going to give me a hassle about replacing my phone. last time i did it with my 8525 they made me pay for it and then receive a rebate on my plan to make sure it wasn't "owner caused error"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lifesaflaw123:
my phone = dead = samsung battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jbenach:
I tried all that stuff with the battery, and plugging in without the battery and every which way from Sunday. No go, which is why I took it to an AT&T store and got it replaced today!!

On the other freaky stuff being mentioned in this thread: cue audio of The Twighlight Zone theme
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omega_:
Anyone tried set 14 0 via mtty?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Its not the battery, I went to an ATT store last night where the lady had some tilts in stock.

Che popped my battery into another tilt and it booted right up, she also tried a new battery in my =dead= tilt and nothing.

Its a hardware issue from the phone, not the battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mutantblack:
No the battery doesn't do anything with this issue. My phone just went dead like this and I am on the phone with AT&T warranty dept. My gf tilt has samsung battery and I have dynapack. Doesn't make any difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Boopman:
Same issue. Bought on the 23 of Dec. That night it was fully charged. In the morning it would not turn on. Plugged it in and a red light. Let it sit for over an hour to no avail. Returned for a new one. Same programs and more loaded now and no probs.

It did prompt me to get the Sprite $10.00 upgrade to 6.1. Great Program and allows direct back-up to my TabletPC. 48meg backup in a little over 2 min. (Also got the GPS Tracer - Terminator)

Here is the link if you need it.

http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=203
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Quick Silver:
there's not a solution for this yet?

I'm now in fear that the same will happen to my phone :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] obie1018:
^^^ Same that is freaky. Just when I thought I am going to add dutty's rom I look this thread up. I brought my phone new wit no contract ext. so I am assed out of $400+ So I am taking very serious measures,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] beret9987:
Yea I'm a little freaked out too! My phone seems to be fine and I've had it for a few days but I'm afraid it wont turn on one of these days...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] spooki37:
I had this a couple of weeks ago, Just get a red light when charging and cannot turn phone on, mine was running original HTC rom, I returned phone to HTC service centre and they identified it as a faulty system board and replaced it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mutantblack:
well, if you just bought the phone, then you have 1 year warranty no matter what of coz for AT&T I am talking about since that's the phone I have. I sent back my first one after used of 2 months due to dead pixels issue. Now the second one after having for a week and it won't turn on at all. So waiting for the replacement and have to send this one back too. I just complained to AT&T about this but they can't do anything about it. My first one had dutty rom on it but I revert it back to AT&T rom. But this second one is stock AT&T rom. I didn't change anything at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfresh305:
Getting Crazier

Well, a quick update on my situation. I still had my 8525 with me, since I had planned to transfer old data off and the such. So, I moved my sim over to my 8525, and decided to work on the 8925. While working on the brick, I found absolutely no solution. I went to the store here in texass (my box and other items are still in Florida), and the hottie at the counter put a new battery in, BRICKED! Nada, zip, zero, zelch.:mad: Phone is fried. So, no big deal, when I get back to Florida, I'll take the box to the nearest ATT and get it swapped out. Problem...... I'm cruisin over to see some old friends, using my 8525 now, all is well. Go to use the phone less than 30 minutes later, DEAD! I go home and put it on the charger, NOTHING! BRICKED!!!! WTF!?!?!?!?! I baby these phones. These guys are in pristine condition. What could be going on?!??! Maybe I AM radioactive! :(

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfresh305:
set 14 0

Set 14 0 (as described somewhere in the wiki), would require us to enter bootloader mode. If I could enter bootloader mode, I wouldn't be having this problem at all. Thanks for the ideas tho.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] austinsnyc:
Just so you all know having the battery out of your Kasier/Tild and pluging in the charger will not allow it to charge or turn on. you will just get a red light with out the bettery in period. the reason for this is "take your battery out and you see the 4 copper contact points under where the battery goes? those complete the circut for the power supply system" so if your battery is out your Kiaser/tild will not get the proper juice needed to run. for all of you with this issue try to bend the copper tabs up to make sure they are coming in contact with the bottom of the battery. To me it sounds like HTC messed up a batch of phones on the line and you all are paying the price. You should all list your build info and build date it can be found under the cover on the back right under the GPS connection in white letters mine is

36H00564-OOM

DATE:061107(TB02)EU

which means mine was built November 6th 2007 and released for the EURO market. I am however in NYC :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfresh305:
Build Info

Austinsync- your a genius.

Build Info

36H00563-OOM

Date

181007(RC01)/US

Charger

S/N

EP9A37ASZ00843

P/N

79H00055-01M
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drokkon:
36H00563-OOM

DATE:061107(TB02)/US

austinsync - are you sure you don't mean 6th of November? Because it looks like it's day/month/year according to dfresh305's info. If so, that CAN'T be a manufacturing day, because I got mine way back in October.

In other news, I'm e-mailing my genius AT&T rep right now - he's on these forums too, so I'm sure he'll tell me what to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] austinsnyc:
Ya it is day/month/year sorry bout that!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
Can any of you tell me if your USB port is anything less than arrow straight? Any slight curvature in the USB port? A slight crescenting???:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfresh305:
GSLEON

Yes, I'd say it may have a slight bend to it. I don't think this is the problem tho, as a fully charged battery won't turn on the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drokkon:
Hm... so then I wonder why there's a date printed on the back of my phone that's more than a month after I actually bought the thing!? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drokkon:
My phone and charger are perfect... like new.

Besides - I don't see how damage would have affected so many people on the same night, and many more before and after, sounds like.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KoZoTo:
BEWARE OF THIS CHARGER!!!!

I work for ATT and most of our returns with the Red Light Of Doom on the tilts have this charger, it fried two of my friends tilts.

This isnt offical from att, but I see this all the time, and im giving my fair warning
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfresh305:
@Kozoto-

Could you list the P/N and S/N for the chargers your getting?

@ Everybody with RLoD -

Post your P/N and S/N of your charger with your date and phone info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mkklein:
Me Too!!

New Year's Eve, I am in my car and my month-old Tilt shows that the battery is about half discharged. I hook it up to the car charger and the indicator on-screen shows that it is charging. I get home and the phone is not fully charged. So, I put it in my USB desk charger cradle; but it doesn't show that it is charging and I don't get the noise from the computer that the phone is connected.

I tried all the things listed here, soft reset, hard reset, removing SIM card, USB charger, AC charger, etc. I did not do the Tweak software because I just found out about that on this site last night and I cannot connect the phone to the computer anyway. I even replaced the battery with a spare sitting in the desk charger, which the Tilt showed as not charged although it had been sitting in the charger for over two weeks. I did check the USB port with a digital camera and it connected. I also rebooted the computer.

A strange thing is that my sons, who are on the AT&T plan with me had battery problems this last couple of days. They have Motorola flip phones that are discontinued. Same kind of thing, the battery not charging or discharging rapidly. These guys only use their phones for calls--no texting, and not internet. One of them took his SIM card out and put it back in and now his phone works fine.

I am thinking this problem is software, rather than hardware related. Maybe it is an AT&T Y2.008K thing. That or maybe it is related to the SIM card. No matter what, I further find it highly unusual that so many phones died on about the same day, which just so happened to correspond to a change in the year.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TitsMagee:
Newbie here, I'm not a techie, but a car nut.

Referred here from howard forums.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=10458902#post10458902

This is exactly what happened. My phone was charged up, I would say I was around 40% off the top of my head about 2am last night EST 1/2/08 and I look over and my phone is dead.

I think "odd" b/c I wasn't using my phone and I am sure I had plenty of batt. life yet.

I go home and my phone is off, I charge the Tilt in as usual, same nightly outlet. Phone comes back on, I figure I must have drained my battery.

Getting ready for work, I check texts/e-mail around 8:30am-9am, I take a shower. When I come out of the shower I hear the "beep" like the battery is dead and I go over and the phone is blank and the red LED is on.

I'm like "WTF" and try to turn it on and it won't cut on. I try a different outlet and the USB charger. No luck.

For those that have heard the "low battery" chime, it beeps a couple of seconds. Not this time, it beeped quickly, then died.

I am freaking pissed as this phone is barely a month old and ATT is telling me go to the store LIKE I DON'T HAVE A LIFE!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mkklein:
Me Too! again

I forgot to put the build and date in my last message.

36H00563-00M

DATE: 061107(TB02)/US
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TitsMagee:
Mine:

36H00563-00M

Date: 181007(RC01)/US
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TitsMagee:
We have the same build date.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] austinsnyc:
Sounds like you all have the same bad batch of Tilts... that is a hardware issue for sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bhyde:
I have the same build date!! Purchased my Tilt the day it was available from ATT. So far, so good, but I'm freakin out now.......

36H00563-00M

DATE: 061107(TB02)/US