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[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
The S3 is clearly more capable than the current crop of AW watches. I bought my S3 before the new LG watches were announced. The LG Style is less capable than the S3, perhaps it will compete with the S2. I think the LG Sport will be a serious threat to the Frontier LTE.

The LG uses a physical SIM instead of an eSIM, allowing greater flexibility in carrier selection. There will be more 3rd party apps available. It will have better integration with Android phones for notifications like email and Hangouts. It appears to be less dependent on a companion phone, but we'll have to see how much functionally it actually has when untethered.

The S3 has some advantages over the LG. It looks better, like a regular analog watch, and has the ability to be customized with any standard watch band. The UI is better, a rotating bezel is superior to a rotating crown. Samsung Pay has MST, making it usable in vastly more POS terminals. Lastly, it's likely to have better battery life.

I don't plan on switching anytime soon, the S3 is handling my use case scenario just fine. But I want Android Wear watches to sell well because we consumers benefit from the competition. The Apple watch is the 800 pound gorilla. I hope the smartwatch segment is large enough to support Tizen, AW, and the upcoming FitBit smartwatches.
[Samsung Gear S3] 10urshin:
Style version has nothing, not even HRM. It is like a pebble and if the reviews are correct, Sport version's battery life barely even make it a day. At this point I happy with my frontier ;)
[Samsung Gear S3] warpgatex:
When I heard about Android Pay on the watch will also NOT work if you have an unlocked bootloader, the Gear S3 wins by a mile in my book.
[Samsung Gear S3] Tinmania:
I am really on the fence between the Gear S3 Frontier and LG Sport. Had an original moto 360 in 2014 but didn't stick with it long (originally with a Note 2 then with a Note 4). Didn't like battery life at the time so ended up with a martian Notifier (in all very satisfied with that Notifier).

Ended up getting an iPhone 6S plus when it came out so after I broke the Notifier really only had Apple Watch as a real smartwatch option, though I did try a few garmins that were mainly good for exercise with phone notifications thrown in for good measure (but great battery life). Tried an Apple watch (1st gen) and felt it was nice but just not great nor worth the price (pre OS 3). Returned it. Now I have an Apple Watch Series 1 (42") that I got for a little over $200 and with the updated processor and OS 3.x it is a better experience. I guess I am one of the lucky ones with very good recognition from Siri, and I use it a lot.

But I don't intend to stay with an iPhone so really wanted a smartwatch that wasn't married to one smartphone platform. I love the look, feel, battery life (as smartwatches go) and display on the Gear S3 F, and that it at least (now) has token iOS support. But I'd be giving up a lot by being on iOS, and even if I switched back to an Android phone I'd only have S voice for voice recognition. I do not like S Voice. Still a week or so ago I was ready to pull the trigger on the S3. Then I saw the LG Sport.

After saying all that, besides the iOS thing (which can easily be changed) is there anything that I should consider in favor of the S3 frontier?

Mike
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
The S3 is a better engineered watch in every way. It's shortcoming is the Tizen app library. The only advantage that the LG Sport has is that it runs AW 2. If battery life is important to you, I doubt you'll be happy with the Sport, based on reports.

I bought my S3 in December. I was anxiously looking forward to the new LG. It would be easy for me to switch since I will be selling my AT&T model and buying a model from Verizon soon. But the S3 is the best watch on the market. There are several AW watches that will be released over the next few months, LG is first but hopefully not the best to come.
[Samsung Gear S3] Tinmania:
Yea I am really wanting the S3. I don't even mind the apps since I'm good with S health and notifications mostly. But that danged S voice.... at least on my Samsung phones I could use Google instead. But on the watch no can do.

Does anyone here use s voice on th s3?

Mike
[Samsung Gear S3] Tech&Hobby:
I have S3F, AppleWatch S1&2, Huawei,Moto360.. And S3 is/was my favorite, but with Aw2.0 things start to change tho :)

S3 have few things i miss, SVoice is 200% crap and even if you can use SHealth to sync with Strava it´s not 100%.

I waited for LG, but the new SPort was not a "wow" watch for me. But good part was the Lg Urbane 2 LTE did come back around here so i could get one.

Urbane 2 Lte is my favorite watch in Size,weight and design from the day 1, but could never get one where i live befor they reroll them. :)

ANd even did pay few bucks more for my Urbane than i did for the S3, but gues with Aw2.0 the Urbane will be very solid.
[Samsung Gear S3] Tinmania:
That is what I expected about svoice. Ugh. I really use Siri and even Google voice recognition a lot and it's one of those little things that for me adds to the pro side of owning a smart watch (Google Now worked well for me on my 1st gen moto 360). Just last night as I was making dinner with my hands wet and iPhone in pocket I dictated a few reminders via my Apple Watch, and added something to my grocery list. I love that stuff.

Has anyone here tried the S3 with an iPhone? I'm thinking it's not great but was hoping it gets better.

Looks like the LG sport is winning for me, even though I like the S3F's styling better. Damn.
[Samsung Gear S3] veletron:
Samsung is good on hardware, god-awful on software. Personally I wish Samsung would consider making a wear 2.0 device with the bezel control taking the place of wear 2.0 twisty-wheel navigation.

I shall continue to watch for reviews of the Gwatch Sport as well as the new Huawai Watch 2 my fear is poor battery life - I easily get 3 days from the gear S3.

My problem with my S3 is the utter dearth of any decent apps, and the fact that some of the features in the watch don't work properly. The main features that don't work are:

- Samsung pay (not available outside the US), and the MST will never work in Europe as we did away with mag strip readers eons ago in favour of chip and pin.

- The remote connection to the phone does not work properly, if I turn off bluetooth, the watch connects to wifi, but the remote connection does not work despite being enabled

- S-Voice is hit/miss usually miss - its a poor excuse for a voice assistant compared to google now or google assistant.

- Cant see old text messages - eg cant see a 'conversation' - can only see notifications (Samsung scuppered the watch for non Samsung smartphone users here).

- Cant see emails on the watch (requires a Samsung Phone to do this)

On the plus side, the battery life is great, notifications clear, and it works great making/taking calls from the watch.

Samsung needs to incentivise developers to create for the Tizen platform with major offers of £££ if they wish it to succeed longer term.

Nigel
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
This is NOT true. I have both the S3 and LG. The LG's android pay DOES work on my unlocked, rooted Pixel. Interestingly, AP on my phone (still) does not work. However, I have successfully used my LG to pay at a few places now.
[Samsung Gear S3] warpgatex:
Thats really cool!

Someone needs to correct this post

https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...f-your-smartphone-has-an-unlocked-bootloader/
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
I use SVoice on my S3 Classic, and find it better than expected...accurate recognition of words is very good - I rarely find it makes a mistake on what I'm saying. I do hold the watch near my face and speak clearly, but it works well.

Where SVoice falls down is doing things that Google Now/Google Assistant excels at, handling random questions and searches. But that's not really what it is intended for on the watch. (I don't use SVoice on my phone - S7 Edge - at all, so I have no idea how functional SVoice is on a phone compared to Google.)

But for normal watch commands, etc., I can find little fault w/SVoice. I'd like my S3 to have Google Assistant on it, but don't expect that to happen.
[Samsung Gear S3] Cheeky_Fink:
I'm having the same thing with my V20. Unlocked and custom ROM. Although, the ROM dev did make a special kernel to work with Root Switch to pass SafetyNet, and I did enable that before setting up AP on the watch. But since, I've had no issues.
[Samsung Gear S3] Tinmania:
Thanks much for the feedback.

I really really wanted to like, or even tolerate, svoice on the S3 but in the end, after testing it as realistically as possible in stores, I just couldn't do it. It's a shame as I really love the amazing display and look of the S3.

I ended up using two AT&T promos to get an LG V20 for half price and an LG Watch Sport for $50 (for buying a V20). Still getting used to the watch.... so far the battery life is worse than expected. I'll see how it goes. Google Assistant works surprisingly well, and it was easy to get it to work with my Hue lighting with even needing to do anything on my phone. I do like the watch feels like it could almost be used on its own. I really don't understand why Google didn't at least make a basic Gmail app for it.

Really liking the V20!

Mike
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
Should mention I'm on stock Android and stock kernel. I'd added my cards before I ever unlocked or rooted my pixel. Maybe that's why I'm able to use it now with the LG watch. I certainly can't add any cards using AP on the Pixel.

That said. I'm returning this dreadful LG watch. Google should be embarrassed to have this as their flagship AW2. So many reasons why it sucks, but the nail in the coffin is the battery life. Such an enormous watch, and Google engineers still couldn't manage to make their code efficient. Had to turn off everything including always on. Sorry, but a watch should always have always on. Period. Biggest reasons I'm sticking with S3---battery, always on, floor/stairs counting, and superior activity tracking in general. Plus, removable band, LTE that works without killing the battery (even more)...and now, WatchMaker is available.

WatchMaker on the S3 is the game changer for me. Now, I have my Tasker integration. So happy.
[Samsung Gear S3] gremlin007:
How did you get tasker integration! Let me know!!!!
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
Watchmaker allows me to add buttons and Tasker variables to a watch face. You need the WM app from the play store and also gear store.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Can you share an example of doing that in the WM app?
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
That would be pretty involved---and probably deserves its own thread. However, with Tasker and WM think of WM as a menu system more than a "watch face". Tasker can push variables to the "face"/menu. Tasker can change the "face"/menu. WM can execute tasker tasks via "tap spots"---which are assigned to text boxes, shapes, etc. One "face" could execute another "face"---which becomes more of a "menu system".

Cool thing is it's almost watch OS agnostic. What I create on my S3 could probably be used on an Android Wear device with few or no changes. It's an awesome app for sure.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Thanks, I should have looked before I posted - adding Tasker tasks via the Tap option in the app is very simple - I've played around changing a couple faces I have to add tap actions for Tasker tasks.

What I really need is to have one tasker tap area that toggles a bunch of tap areas on/off, so I can have an uncluttered watch face for the 95% of the time it's just a watch, but then toggle to a "Tasker" view quickly when I want to use Tasker from the face.

I can do that via the Tasker WM plugin, which has a "Change Watch" option. Also means I have to re-create the task for every watch face that I want to have a regular face and a face w/the Tasker tap spots. But that seems like a clumsy way. EDIT: Tried it, and the switching is quite fast.

What I'd like to do is make one face that is my "tasker face" and fill it with tasks. Then I can set a tap on the faces I use to load that face.

Then I need to figure out how to return to the last used watch face via a tasker task that I can access from the "Tasker" face - then I'll have a way to toggle between whatever face I"m using, my Tasker face, and then back again w/out having to create a separate Tasker face and separate "return" Tasker task for every face I use (tedious/unwiedly).

Any hints? If you've done this, could you share the face that has the code/script I need, or ?
[Samsung Gear S3] gremlin007:
Amazing, Thanks a lot soundneedle! WM is totally worth it simply for Tasker integration. It works a million times better than TaskS2 or the Trigger app. Tasker is extremely responsive through WM. I have it set so that I can tap it and have it unlock or lock my front door as well as turn on some lights or clear notifications.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
The one thing I miss from TaskS2 (which runs very well for me) is the lack of visual feedback on the watch face when you run a task. If I'm not in site of the home automation I initiate (e.g., can't see the light I'm turning on/off or the door I'm locking/unlocking) I have no way to confirm that the tap was registered.

Is there a way for the watch face to confirm the tap visually, so I'm at least sure the command was sent?
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
Sound like the kinda of "menu system" I've setup for myself. Basically, I put a shape in the middle of the second face ("tasker face") that triggers a tasker task to change the face back to the first face. Sounds like your idea is more of a tasker workout than WM. It's sounds possible though. Maybe use variables so Tasker can keep track of the "state" of your watch.

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I think Trigger still has its place alongside WM since it can run Tasker actions over LTE. WM requires bluetooth....maybe wifi works (haven't tried that).

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I use AutoNotification inside the task to send a confirmation. Another task deletes the notification after a few seconds (that way I don't have to do it on the watch or phone).
[Samsung Gear S3] gremlin007:
[MENTION=2169902]Redflea[/MENTION] I use Tasker to generate a notification once the task is ran and that appears on my watch (Task-> Alerts -> Notify). What soundneedle suggested with Autonotification is the best option IMO if you want to have the notification clear itself automatically afterwards.

[MENTION=3280924]soundneedle[/MENTION] I'm in Canada so we don't have the LTE option. Trigger app would be great if your watch can act as a standalone product but we only have the Bluetooth version. With that said, it does work with Wifi only (theoretically) but I always have my phone with me so I've never tried it out. At home, I use Trigger to control my Harmony hub which in turns controls my tv - Tasker for everything else.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Should this work? Notification appears on phone and watch, but it doesn't cancel the notification. Didn't find any feature called auto-notification in tasker...
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Nvm...fixed it. A bit tedious to have to edit this into all of the tasks I want to run from the watch face, but works well on the watch.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Re: "Maybe use variables so Tasker can keep track of the "state" of your watch."

I don't see a way in the Change watch face plug-in that would allow me to use a variable to set the watch face name for the watch to change to using the WM plugin. The only option in the WatchMaker plug-in drop-down is a list of the existing faces you have in watchmaker and/or have sent your phone, there is no "use variable" option.

There is a WM Send Variable command, but I don't know how/if that can be used to feed the WM Change Watch plug-in. But sounds like it's for passing info to the watch, not the plugin.

Is there a way to use the WM watch name plug-in to switch to a watch face via a variable?

Or do I have to set a tasker variable, and create an if-then which says if variable=X watch face, then run this Task which switches back to the watch face stored in the variable, and do that for each watch face I want to use this with? Actually, I don't know how Tasker will know what the current watch face is - if I make any changes directly on the watch it won't know what face I'm currently on. <banging head against wall> :)
[Samsung Gear S3] soundneedle:
Not that I know of.

This is a good example to my suggesting variables. Maybe it doesn't fit your use case but as you tap button on your watch, tasker can set variables...such as a "watch face" name variable. As long as you scope that variable so other tasker tasks can see it, you can get pretty sophisticated. Of course, this requires you to have tasker change your watch faces so that it knows which face your on. Maybe I'm oversimplifying your use though.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Thanks...what you say makes sense. The problem I have is that AFAIK I don't have a way for the watch to tell Tasker what face I'm using...or for Tasker to query that info from the watch, when I run a task. If I knew how to code for Tasker or script in Lua I could probably do it from the watch, but that's above my pay-grade. :)

Thanks for your help/suggestions, would not be where I am w/out it.
[Samsung Gear S3] MrBrady:
I'm currently researching both these watches. My phone is a Nexus 6 running Android 7.1.1. I'm leaning toward the S3. Samsung Pay on the Play Store says it's not compatible with my phone.

I primarily use Hangouts, Google Voice and Gmail for my primary calls and notifications. Google Maps and Google Music for other primary apps. Any idea if these notifications are compatible?

What really has me sold on the S3 is mobile payments. Do you need a Samsung phone for that?
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
Using S Pay on the S3 does not require a Samsung phone. The hardware and software are on the watch. The S Pay component built into the Gear Manager app on the phone is for authentication purposes. S Pay is by far my favorite task done with the watch.

My number is on GV and I use Hangouts for messaging and Gmail. I receive those notifications on the watch. Ironically, it requires downloading the AW app. There is no GV app for Tizen, but it's not needed. I haven't tried using Google maps on the watch, but there is a standalone mapping program (Navigator S) available for the S3; I've found the image is too small to be useful to me, YMMV.
[Samsung Gear S3] MrBrady:
Thanks for all the info! Is AW Android Wear?

Now the big question - LTE or Bluetooth. I'm still on the fence, but don't really want a second number. I know some providers have number masking, but don't know if that works with GV numbers.

I'm almost never without my phone, so I suppose LTE is overkill. The Bluetooth version still has NFC and MST payments, right?
[Samsung Gear S3] Tel864:
Yes it does and that was one of the selling points for me. I have a Moto G4 with no NFC and didn't expect to ever have mobile pay available. I was thrilled to find out that the Bluetooth version had standalone NFC.
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
Choosing between LTE vs BT only is a no brainer. They cost the same and one gives you the possibility of leaving your phone behind. Ever left the house and forgot your phone? Or hanging out in the living room and have to scramble when you hear it ringing in the bedroom? If you find that you never use cellular, just cancel the service. The watch will still work.

With GV, you don't need services like NumberSync or Digits. GV is simple and it works flawlessly on any carrier and any device. Setup literally takes a couple of minutes: login to GV and add the watch's number, launch Gear Manager and import contacts. Incoming calls and texts will simultaneously go to the watch and phone, and your responses will show your GV number.

If your want to initiate calls or texts from the watch preserving your GV caller ID, there's a process that must be performed involving capturing GV's alias numbers. It's a bit time consuming, but only needs to be done one time and it's applicable to any future device that can import your Google contacts.
[Samsung Gear S3] gremlin007:
Why do you need the AW app? I get Gmail notifications on my watch without the AW app (I don't really use hangouts). Can you clarify please?
[Samsung Gear S3] MrBrady:
Great information! Thank you!

The only hiccup I've run into is I'm currently on Verizon and thinking of switching to Project Fi next month. This watch only appears to be available through AT&T and T-Mobile, both of which see the watch as a "device", meaning it's minimum $30/month (since I'm currently not a customer). That's steep, considering how infrequently I'd imagine using it. If it were $5-10 extra / month, it would be a no brainer for sure.
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
It's above my pay grade, I'll leave it to the tech heads to explain why. I only know that it works.

The watch and phone do not have to be on the same network. I too am waiting for Verizon to offer the S3. There are a few Verizon customers on this forum who have an S3 on T-Mobile. They offer a standalone wearable plan for $15/mo. AT&T doesn't, so I pay through the nose as my only line with them.

Rumor (based on FCC filings) says the S3 is coming soon to Big Red. When it does, I'll replace my AT&T model.
[Samsung Gear S3] BarryH_GEG:
Another reason for both LTE and the Gear S3 over AW is ADT Canopy. For $99 a year you get 24/7 emergency monitoring should you ever need it. You can either press the power button three times to activate it or use the provided widget from the watch screen. After it's triggered it sends your location continuously to ADT via GPS on the watch. Once triggered they'll call you and if you don't respond or don't provide the correct passcode you logged with them they'll automatically dispatch emergency services. That's a pretty cool safety net at a reasonable price. As crazy as the world's become it's great peace of mind. It's only available on the Gear S2/3 with 3/4G and not Wi-Fi models for obvious reasons.

http://www.adtcanopy.com/samsung
[Samsung Gear S3] gthing:
Android Wear and Tizen are not even in the same realm it's hard to compare them. Android Wear is approaching a watch version of Andriod in some sense and is loaded with features compared to Tizen. Tizen is more like a dumb watch trying to be smart. Yes there are some apps, but the lack of flexibility and features is sometimes astonishing. There is no well integrated note taking app. There is no well integrated navigation app. There is no way to stream music from more than one service. There is no theater mode. Watch faces are buggy. Samsung Pay is buggy AF. There is no recent apps shortcut. Etc. etc. etc.

The reasons to wear the Gear S3 are: the hardware is great, Samsung Pay is awesome when it works, and the battery life. That's it. You don't wear a Tizen watch if you want a wide variety of apps. I want nothing more in a watch than the Gear S3 running AW2.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Naphtha:
Hello today i want share an porting of Miui 8 based on Android N for our Zuk Z2 / Z2 plus.

Unfortunately, this ROM have 3 big bugs:

- RIL : Simcard not recognized;

- Camera don't works;

-FP/Home button don't works.

If someone want help me (Fedor isn't interested anymore at this ROM) can contact me or fix it and give to us any upgrade.

Download Miui 8 7.1.20 with Bugs:

https://mega.nz/#!94lH0ZbS!xQO4b060uEUhKbt6pTyeZ2JeSIx4uQcJmubI-AlFSpM

Download Pure Android 7.0 (base of porting):

https://mega.nz/#!5t8DjZYI!BCZEfGr6zpaMdhp3t_768O8gxCgfkHHsKplecTl-pyo

​

Credits:

Naphtha&Fedor
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] pipyakas:
have you checked out the rom from here? http://bbs.lenovomobile.cn/z2/t568828/

It's MIUI8, on N with no bug according to the thread, but when I flash the rom I got stuck on a black screen with the led blinking
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Naphtha:
Is based on Android 6

http://cdn.fds.api.xiaomi.com/b2c-bbs/cn/attachment/a7eed087087cccf62ceaa64bc8eddaba.jpg