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[Verizon LG V10] johnsgone:
That's what's different with this update. I do the same thing only I don't have "LG update" rather but two System Update apps. I can disable one (yet it still runs) and force close them both. So usually once a day of force closing and clearing data and caches would keep verizons updates off my back. This time I've had the update notification come through 2 - 3 times daily while clearing the system update apps every time and preemptively also.

Idk why its so persistent. Thanks either way
[Verizon LG V10] abine45:
There will be a link to donate to a few people when and if it's released. I only say if because we aren't sure if any of our methods will work yet
[Verizon LG V10] abine45:
Likely chances is that the test I will have it first could brick the phone altogether
[Verizon LG V10] abine45:
Trust me when I say this!!! The current people are nothing like the people in the past that have made the v10 root. We aren't as smart or as talented but hard working and asked many people who know what they are doing for help! In no way are any of the 5 people helping out affiliated with LG and neither am I!
[Verizon LG V10] corporal_hades:
How were you able to disable both System Updates apps? I am only able to disable one of them. It sucks that we can no longer disable the System updates on this phone.
[Verizon LG V10] HTCVzw:
Same here, can only disable one, and force stop both. set it for 9 so it will leave me alone all day:fingers-crossed:
[Verizon LG V10] kaluna00:
To stop your update notifications do this

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v10/general/how-to-disable-updates-otas-t3289145

[MENTION=7799533]abine45[/MENTION] may want to put this in the OP.
[Verizon LG V10] abine45:
I already made a mention of how to turn of the update.
[Verizon LG V10] corporal_hades:
Debloater will not disable the system updates, something with a change in adb and permissions not there. And again going into the application manager, it will disable one of them but the other one can't be disabled, which debloater also can't disable.
[Verizon LG V10] kjcsg:
I'm on rooted 5.1.1 [MENTION=7799533]abine45[/MENTION]. What do you need from me?
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
In response to blocking OTA issues using debloater...

I am currently attempting NetGuard in the play store...

it supposedly allows you to block wifi and mobile data access to both installed and system apps.

I am currently blocking both system update system apps using the app and will update if I am still bothered by the ota update notices.

this is only a test right now...have any others tried this before???

waiting to see if it either works or has side effects...like other needed items being blocked as well.

updates to come as I find out more or someone tells me this has been tried and has failed to work or did not work without major side effects.
[Verizon LG V10] corporal_hades:
Adguard has a firewall that I blocked both system updates apps, but I still get prompted. Either it's already downloaded the file or the firewall isn't doing it's intended job.
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
Quick update....

This is a replacement phone just in from Verizon...on 25a...

Before trying net guard...I kept WiFi and mobile data off 95-98% of the time.

Never once had an update message/notice etc.

Using net Guard I had 2 of the 3 apps...

One of the system update apps

And

FOTA test

Both of them tried internet access with the last hour...approx 3 times each

Apparently all 3 times were denied...so far at least...and I did not get any ota notice etc.

No known side effects...yet...

Will continue to update!!!
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
Unless I get an update notice/message which means this is not working...

This is my last update...

These are screen shots of the internet access logs of the following apps

1st image: FOTA

And

2nd image: System updates (the top one in the list of system apps...the one not able to be disabled)

I assume as far as I can tell these logs indicate attempts to access the internet that were blocked...

So far I still have had no notice or message of an update...despite these apparent attempts by these apps to access the internet.
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
System updates
[Verizon LG V10] pickaxe300:
Hate to be that 1 guy, but is there any movement forward with root, or do we just take th 26a patch and live with what we've got... Thanks in advance!
[Verizon LG V10] dakpluto:
You are that guy for sure....the thread is being updated quite often, they are being very transparent about what is going on. When it's ready, it's ready. If it is taking too long for you go ahead and update and ignore this thread....
[Verizon LG V10] johnsgone:
I think you may be "that guy" actually.

Who are you to answer his question? You didn't because you can't. Instead you were simply rude. His post wasn't rude, demanding nor did it come off as though he felt entitled to anything.

Quite often? Transparent?

If you would be so kind as to bring attention to exactly what makes you feel that way it would be appreciated.

The bold type, the uber confident post titles and the time frames within certainly make one question things a bit.

I don't mean to have now taken the title of "that guy" by being direct with you and don't mean any offense either.

I feel your response to a question not posed to you to begin with was overly harsh.

There was no ETA demand, nor any ill intent that I could pick up on.

Let the OP handle things like this. How he feels about it and responds to it is all that matters.
[Verizon LG V10] I_am_Batman:
Woah come on guys...

First, everyone is entitled to their opinions good or bad.

Second, the guys who are working on the root stated their coder is on vacation... As a type of professional if he has no time with the family he probably won't care about anything regarding this project regardless of circumstance.

And lastly, if you do not want to wait or you see fit to move on, no one will stop you. This is merely a courtesy of the community.

I'm as anxious as the next guy however these projects take time and just like any worthy project there should never be a time frame. Who knows what unknown challenges they are facing... They know... But why bog down the thread with info that less than 2% of the people reading it will understand? What they're doing is either actually waiting for the coder to get back from vacation or exactly as stated before they're working on it.

Everyone needs to take a step back and wait or walk away without the need to point fingers.
[Verizon LG V10] abine45:
Because of things stated above, you can make a mention I am no longer posting and maybe releasing. I will work with who I got to do it but we may not release.
[Verizon LG V10] buttsak:
So I just got this phone and I was looking forward to rooting it...Guess not. One comment (that was a lil rude imo) then another one, people arguing. Thanks guys.

To the people trying to achieve root keep going. Don't let ignorance ruin for the whole community. However few we are. And if you need a tester let me know I have a backup phone, or will when I fix my nexus's screen
[Verizon LG V10] snapz54:
I've really appreciate how open you've been with updates. I'll apologize on behalf of whoever was giving you trouble - they don't represent the majority of good people on this site. Hope we still get to hear updates from you again soon - you're a part of our only hope. Thanks for all of your hard work so far and I hope at the very least you can get a couple days away to rest and renew. Even if you don't come back to this, it was great of you to put in such a great effort.

-Phil

---------- Post added at 12:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 AM ----------

Original responder that you're defending above was passive aggressively pressuring the OP. You can defend him all you want, but that's the equivalent of "hate to say I told you so" which is never the right thing to say. That poster was wrong, and you were wrong to defend him. You aren't the police, so stop telling others to not be the police.

Everyone take a deep breath please, show some appreciation to OP and remind him/her (politely) that you've been, and continue to be, patiently waiting for the results of the team's hard work. This is the kind of effort that people get paid a lot of money for. Most of these devs have demanding day jobs and rooting/romming is a labor of love that takes them away from family and friends at times - but it's extremely rewarding to solve a (seemingly) unsolvable problem and share it with a community of supporters that couldn't do the work themselves. I really hope that OP reconsiders release, but as I've stated previously, I appreciate the effort so far regardless of end result.

Thank you devs.
[Verizon LG V10] Haxcid:
You're not that guy and anyone who says you are is a douche. Asking for an update does not make you that guy.
[Verizon LG V10] mikeberding:
I went and updated to 26a. The jerkitude and whininess of everyone on XDA has made me think it's time to jump to Apple. I have 10 more months on this phone and then I might jump ship.

I completely understand that the devs are working hard, however to cop out and say "one person ruined it for all of you" is a whiner move. It certainly would be easier to get that guy reported or blocked from the thread, especially when some of us have pledged money to show our support for this venture.

This place used to be a useful community and now it's full of entitled whiners, both devs and otherwise. So when it comes down to it, everyone is "that guy." Even me right now. But this guy is not returning to XDA again.
[Verizon LG V10] Haxcid:
Agreed. I have both android and iPhone and while iPhone people are blindly allegiant then tend to be fairly nice. I have watched the attitudes change over the past decade. :rolleyes:
[Verizon LG V10] Kylewolf:
"When it get's rooted then I'll give it to the people who helped first. You guys, last, if that even. It's crazy how one person can ruin it for everyone. Sadly, that is the way life goes...."

Is this middle school? Even if the guy was being a ****, how is that an appropriate response to the people that have followed your work here and shared in the hype.

Sounds to me like the project was not producing results and with root unlikely to be finished it was easier to blast someone asking for an update.

And for your future projects, the best statement to make people not trust you is: "If you don't believe me then that is your issue"

Sorry if I am being a **** here, but I loved coming to this post and seeing the updates and getting excited. Hell it was the only thing keeping me from hitting that annoying update popup to make it go away.
[Verizon LG V10] kaluna00:
Sad day... the sand box just got a little bit smaller.
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
Ok fine so we have all been a jerk...sometime to someone...

Ok that is behind us...(wishful thinking...I know)

Now for the betterment of this small but hopeful...

LG V10 community...

Abine45...

Thanks for the work...and not trying to leave anyone out by not naming you by name...

Thanks to all the ones helping him...

If they get it right...they'll be LG v10 'gods'

If they don't...then we're still being screwed by LG and Verizon etc...

We who are not involved except to be jerks to one another about all this are not going to change the two above outcomes with bickering.

I'm Still on 25a...and unless by some aweful unfortunate even I will never, even if this root doesn't work, take the update...maybe root will come a year from now if this fails.

But I have an LG rooted G3 and the V10 is a Verizon replacement so in my circumstances I am more than willing to test.
[Verizon LG V10] johnsgone:
In what way do you feel that anyone was referring to you as "that guy"?

My post was in response to one I quoted in my post. It regarded a hostile attitude towards another user I've seen alot of on xda. Neither my nor the quoted post had relevance to this thread directly nor did either mention you.

I'll mention that because of points I made in regards to another members response about a completely separate topic that the OP has chosen not to update or release root for the general user. Only to those who helped...maybe.

I offered to test, more than happy to sacrifice a phone I just got if and when it would help root be achevied.

Nonetheless I am apparently that guy.
[Verizon LG V10] pickaxe300:
I was not asking for an eta, nor was I being pushy. I was asking if there had been any movement just due to the thread completely dying off for a while. I am more than grateful for the devs working on trying to get root and am willing to wait for the good stuff. As for the guy the said "I am that guy", that's is fine.. Believe as you wish. As for albine, I really do hope you can achieve the daunting task of getting root for us.... Simply put, I have not been rude, pushy, or feeling that this is owed to us or myself.. .. This is worth the wait and for that matter, worth paying for if people are actually serious. I root all phones I own... Some later than others... Lol

Keep up the great work albine, and dot think for a minute that I was hounding or pressuring for an eta... Just anxious as I am sure most of us are..

Thanks again!

Also, I didn't mean to start the ****storm..... Wasn't my intention at all....
[Verizon LG V10] whitehawk66:
I agree: his inquiry was polite and to the point.
[Verizon LG V10] CZGunslinger:
Agreed. As for myself I'm patiently waiting and being cautiously optimistic.
[Verizon LG V10] Glitch15:
I've been quietly observing and reading all the posts. I constantly check xda at least once a day to see if any updates were posted. I personally feel like asking for a progress update is no big deal, and you may not be responded to right away. I do understand how asking for an update may cause the dev(s) to be annoyed. It should be known that working on a frustrating project can cause the developer(s) to be annoyed. I'm not saying I personally know this because I'm not a dev, but I have had done some Xbox360 modding (J-tag and RGH). It was a frustrating project for me due to being a novice in soldering. Some points were annoying, I took breaks at some time and then maybe a day or two I'll be back at it. Sometimes it was my soldering, but then I realized that's not the only thing that makes it boot. Other variables are at hand. Fortunately for me there are tutorials and all that good stuff floating around cause it's just a general console with other similar versions. Modifying an xbox360 does not come fairly close to rooting a stubborn phone like the LG V10 from Verizon. I only had a little taste of a stubborn project. What I'm basically trying to say is that developers may have a tough time depending on their own project(s), as well as what they do in their own daily lives. Breaks are needed and we all have to be patient. Be mindful of the devs and those who help us.

Abine45, thank you and can you thank the team including all those helping for me, please? Sorry if it's a big request but I want all those who is helping to solve root that I am thankful for all of your work!
[Verizon LG V10] AirForceOnes0010:
From all of the silent majority. We are watching this intently and pulling for you guys.
[Verizon LG V10] BLACKONYX777:
Definitely. I am beyond appreciative of all of the work you are putting into this. Take as much time as you need to get it finished.
[Verizon LG V10] goatman101:
Very excited to see you are still pushing forward! Keep on pushing on!
[Verizon LG V10] dakpluto:
OK, only thing I'm gonna say on this and then done. Yes, I called him that guy because while I'm okay with asking for updates, claiming it's "died off" when it's only been a week since the last update (and that update stated one of the lead people was on vacation) indicates either not reading the OP, which is "That guy", or being passive aggressive about it, which is also "that guy." The whole bit about should we just update and accept what we have also came off, in context, of being pretty passive aggressive also. Maybe no ill will was intended in his post but ultimately it was pretty tactless in my opinion. Mostly it's the claiming of lack of updates because they haven't been posting every couple of days that really irks me.
[Verizon LG V10] dewman210x:
I want to say thank you for all then time and effort that goes into this. I trust that root will come. Some of us are impatient, myself included. But yet I know the only way to get this done is to wait.
[Verizon LG V10] ugzz:
good to see updates happening, but damn, this thread has more drama than a teenagers facebook feed.
[Verizon LG V10] unept96:
Hey, is the root ready yet? I kiiiiid!

If you're getting impatient, put your money where your mouth is and pledge money for the solution. Nothing is free and someone is devoting lots of time to the project and that should be compensated.
[Verizon LG V10] snapz54:
I'd like to know how many of the people commenting here (outside of albine) know the actual work that's going into rooting/unlocking this phone (or any phone these days). It's intense, difficult work and testing can destroy devices. Fragmentation means there's less and less help these days and brave devs that take something like this on deserve any form of support that they need.

Everyone take a deep breath in moments like this and realize the stress someone that's taking that work on for FREE might feel. The pressure is real, devs want to deliver. Albine makes a consistent effort to update this thread. To have someone push for more info than what albine graciously gives can really get someone on a hard, stressful day.

Glad to see were back on track.

p.s. to those "threatening" to leave for Apple, if you can actual say that you're considering Apple, you probably didn't really want Android in the first place honestly. The main OSes are getting closer and closer to the same thing, but communities like this one are exactly what make Android special - the chance at unlimited possibilities with an unlocked phone that can become the exact thing you need it to be. Throw 20 iPhones in one box and 20 Android phones in another. Dump them onto a table and watch as the Android users find there phones in seconds. The iPhone users would be sitting there not knowing where to start. I don't want the same phone. If you do, they are for sale and I wish you luck.
[Verizon LG V10] TallThin1:
I chose to take the 26a, too much drama here
[Verizon LG V10] snapz54:
Please refer to the iOS portion of the P.S. in my message above. Best of luck with 26a.
[Verizon LG V10] jughandle:
Seeing this post got me so excited -- I was ready to go back to my rooted Samsung GNex that has been laying around forever in a drawer!

I don't keep up with all the drama, dumbness, and feelings of entitlement that some people seem to hold which has been mentioned in the beginning of this thread (I haven't even read through the entire thread, honestly).

It's awesome that someone is still working on this mostly abandoned platform -- the V10 -- and still providing for the community. I've had nothing but problems with this phone, and VZW hasn't been happy to help. Root would eliminate some of those problems, for sure.

I would love to test, and if it's functional, I'd definitely donate to the person or people who made it possible.

We need to appreciate that these individuals are putting their own time, effort, and knowledge into something that benefits not jut themselves, but the community as a whole. The whole feeling of entitlement has to stop, especially the hate for the devs that make progress possible. Please support these fellow community members, and remember -- they're not doing it for money, fortune, or fame. They are doing it to further the development community.
[Verizon LG V10] Mr. Mendelli:
Keep up the great work you guys, I look foward to seeing your work come to fruition, regardless of the wait. It's a *little old, but I haven't had time to try this new method out, but I just found it on YouTube today and thought it was worth putting on the table for you guys to check out...
[Verizon LG V10] AirForceOnes0010:
VS990 is on the compatibility list with 6.0.. I'm not usually the type to try things first but it's very tempting for only $30
[Verizon LG V10] Mr. Mendelli:
True, the price is partially why I haven't attempted it...
[Verizon LG V10] buttsak:
Still nothing yet huh?
[Verizon LG V10] burnsky05:
https://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-v10/general/news-v10-root-t3555569/post71397963

Abine45 stated that he would most likely not release any updates or rooting information since the listed conversation above. Sorry, root does NOT seem to be coming to the Verizon LG V10 unless someone else has a solution for it.
[Verizon LG V10] pickaxe300:
Just an FYI.... The Dr. Fone will NOT work for our devices.... I just tried it and it states our model is not supported yet..

So for what it's worth, we'll have to wait for albine to work his magic....
[Verizon LG V10] Fen1331:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=70198363 please see this thread.
[Verizon LG V10] alvinator94:
Alright so me, [MENTION=7799533]abine45[/MENTION], and kryz have been working on this when we get the chance. Me and abine45 have tested stuff for kryz and tried pushing it with our devices ourself. kryz is our c++/patch guy and we test and trouble shoot with him. We've been able to get in a backdoor using a patched app_process32 and connecting to it with busybox with an id that has root. We can't do anything with it because of sepolicy and not having a patched init. So we have to wait for kryz to patch our init/sepolicy, and use his exploit to load the new init/sepolicy. Rooting this phone is a ridiculous challenge and we are going to continue it when the three of us can get together and do it. I want to get root on it at this point purely so I can say that we did it. I've shipped my device back to LG 3 times now because of testing and trying to get this slut of a phone to be rooted and I think I've used all of its lives (thank god for the bootloop issues they didn't even look my way twice). I mean, if you have any questions on where this is going or whether or not its happening we may not answer them. But when it does, of course we are going to make a new thread with all the friggin goodies for you boys and girls. So please understand that the person to shake your fist at is Verizon and LG and not necessarily anyone on the VS990 boards who has tried and given this stuff a shot.

SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY
[Verizon LG V10] goatman101:
Thanks for taking one for the team....
[Verizon LG V10] CZGunslinger:
Awesome update alvinator94. I'm still patient.
[Verizon LG V10] Mr. Mendelli:
Damnit. Thanks for giving it a shot though...
[Verizon LG V10] AirForceOnes0010:
Sort of figured it had to be too good to be true where abine, alvinator and crew have been working so hard to get root. Thanks for trying though. Seriously irks me that V20 already has root..
[Verizon LG V10] doihaveto:
No fault to our devs working on this...they are feverishly working for the community and I am confident they will crack it...

But yeah when I saw the v20 had root and bootloader TWRP etc I jumped at the chance!

But still have my recently (hardly a month old) replaced Verizon factory reconditioned V10 replacement and will go ahead and root it as soon as these awesome devs crack it!

Like having rooted phones as backup to my daily phone!
[Verizon LG V10] unept96:
I don't know what at least half of that all means, but I'm impressed and grateful.
[Verizon LG V10] johnsgone:
Thank you.

That's communication.

That's information.

That's appreciated.

Hugely appreciated.
[Verizon LG V10] AirForceOnes0010:
I'm with this guy. I impress my friends and family that I can follow the Dev's instructions once everything is put together and fully functional, I tell them that the real gods live out there in the Internet...
[Verizon LG V10] alexey00:
Any news

How it's going so far? Any updates on root?
[Verizon LG V10] buttsak:
+1