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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigfooo:
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Hello APBilbo

thx for fast answering

So i tried like you said and the 1/2 second freezes i had are less visible. Anyway, the speed settings , i think, is not that perfect, its not rocking like the app

About the app, i noticed using the phone dialer, when i use it and want to go back to my today that the prg is on the backgroun and doesnt show up by itself.

Thats it for the moment

Suggestion :I also would love to add some plugin to the app, would be great. And Maybe being able to put some stuff wich could be placed at a certain position like today plugin for example. I mean about the meters ans so on, missedcalls, or whatever displaying some registry keys like i did with rltoday...

Many regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ridingshark:
I solved that now.

Installed all Programs (and the skin folder) to device and all ICONs to SD Card.

So i can create tons of starticons without loss of memory. you just have to edit the config.XML files to point the path to SD Card Folder.

Another question now:

1) In Todays XML file i found exec=":otherspage" whats this?

2) Can i start a specific Page on TrottleLaucher main App (e.g. Settings)?

3) I edited the config.xml but today still shows the "old" layout. I unchecked plugin and rechecked it, but it does not seem to work. Is there a kind o f"cache" that has to be cleared?

Gracias and congratulation for that piece of Software, that rocks!

R
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Well, I'll try to look into the code to see if some optimization can be achieved for next release ;-).

Thanks for resporting the phonedialer issue, I've allready saw it on my device....

About today plugins inside ThrottleLauncher, as I've said before I'm doing some research on this but still haven't found out how to do it... (look some post's before ;) )

You can indeed include registry values in ThrottleLauncher by using the <text .../> tag.

Thanks for the feedback!!

Glad to hear you've got it working ;).

1) This is for opening ThrottleToday pages form ThrottleLauncher and viceversa. The param specified is the number of appearence of the page on the target app XML.

2) The page started by default when lauching the app is the first one on it's xml.... If you want another page to be the default, just change the order on ThrottleConfig. Beware of changing ": otherspage" references os today plugin as the order has change

3) As you can see in ThrottleConfig app, you must have 2 setups, one for the TodayPlugin and one for the main app. You asign one or the other by using the corresponding buttons when the target setup is selected on the combo, and pressing Actions/Save

De nada ;)!!! (you're wellcome)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Added a poll to the thread to priorize the features ;). My vote for meters!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ridingshark:
Yeah, found that out, but what i mean is: When i change the Today Plugin Config.xml the changes take only effect when soft reset. I do not find a way to "refresh" the todayplugin (also unchecking and rechecking does not work).

Its a bit boaring always to softreset the device when i cange a parameter ;-)

but anyhow i guess DONATING is what i wil do soon - so should the others with a lot of wishes ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Thank you very much!! ;). For the refresh problem, on my device it use to work just by unchecking clicking ok, then open again today options and then checking ok. If it doen't work... you can try to manually close the process called "ThrottleTodayPlugin", it should force a refresh of the whole today plugin from the begining... To kill the process you can use something like the Task Manager of FDCSoft
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oyegaurav83:
I wanted to check all the options in the poll.. well except for the last one..

i voted for plugins.. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ridingshark:
Ahhhhhhhh! Yessss, that works.

I just donated 5 Eur (n.lender) to start with.

Thanks and have a nice weekend

N (R) ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
I've just sent you a thanks giving email ;). Also wanted to thank you supporting this project on the thread. Thanx!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
let me guess..the next version is releasing on

04-02-2008
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Hahahaha. Think I must have the requisites before releasing, so the poll must be closed before ;). Currently I can't give you any dates as I haven't time even to open the code :(. Hope to give it a good "push" this weekend...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
ahan....theres no hurry..in the mean time we will play with 0.6
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JamesAllen:
Replace Home Plugin

My vote for future efforts would be to work on anything that would allow users to replace the Today Home Plugin entirely. My vote would be for ThrottleLauncher to be the Today Screen, or to have a stripped down today screen, with a small ThrottleLauncher Plugin with key information that launches ThrottleLauncher.

It may well be that this can be done now but I have not played around enough to replace the Today Home Plugin entirely.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
AP,

Regarding the Contact Issue.

I'm curious as to why it would work with the default setup and not with the gullum's HTC setup. This seems REALLY weird.

I've looked at the the xml between the Default and gullums and they are identical....It's really weird. I thought it was a memory issue, but I have plenty available.

just wanted to alert you to the fact that ...

Default: Contacts appear: 930 kb in memory

HTC: Contacts do NOT appear: 2000kb in memory.

That's what I've determined...I'll continue to troubleshoot.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
***cricket********* Cricket *** Cricket *************

I guess everyone's over checking out the new Sprint GPS ROM update...

I have a question about TL.

I'm trying to have the digital clock on one line...with two different font sizes. I have included a screen shot of my home screen. Notice the seconds are underneath the Clock. I can't figure out how to get the seconds to be on teh same line as the hours and minutes, but with smaller font.

Here is the code for that set of rows...

<row name="Header" marginX="0" marginY="1" rows="3" scrollenabled="False">

<text text="#$date,hh:mm#" fonttype="LiquidCrystal,10,true" fontcolor="0,200,0" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" spacing="0" rowspan="1" width="100"/>

<text text="#$date,ss#" fonttype="LiquidCrystal,10,true" fontcolor="0,200,0" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" spacing="0" rowspan="1" width="100"/>

<text text="#$date,MM/dd/yy#~#$date,dddd#" fontcolor="255,255,255" fonttype="12,true" leftmargin="5" topmargin="10" spacing="-10" />

<clock name="clock" exec="" rowspan="3" path="setups\Default\icons\analogclock.png">

<hours color="100,100,100" />

<minutes color="100,100,100" />

<seconds color="100,100,100" />

</clock>

<text name="Missed Calls" exec="\Windows\CallHistory.exe" height="20" width="20" rowspan="1" path="setups\Default\icons\Info\phone.png" text="#$reg,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Phone\Missed Call Count#" fontcolor="255,255,255" fonttype="9,true" leftmargin="23" />

<text name="Unread SMS" exec="\Windows\tmail.exe" params="-service 'SMS' -open 'Inbox'" height="20" width="20" rowspan="1" path="setups\Default\icons\Info\sms.png" text="#$reg,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\sms\Unread\Count#" fontcolor="255,255,255" fonttype="9,true" leftmargin="23" />

<text name="Unread email" exec="\Windows\tmail.exe" params="-service 'Yahoo!' -open 'Inbox'" height="20" width="20" rowspan="1" path="setups\Default\icons\Info\mail.png" text="#$reg,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\TotalEmail\Unread\Count#" fontcolor="255,255,255" fonttype="9,true" leftmargin="23" />

</row>
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Thanx for the info on memory.... Sorry to say I've no idea of what can be happening with your contacts... Currently I'm doing some research on adding today plugins to Thorttle as it seems to be the winning feature, but latter I'll try to find out the contacts prob....

As for the digital clock try it on this order:

<text text="#$date,hh:mm#" fonttype="LiquidCrystal,10,true" fontcolor="0,200,0" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" spacing="0" rowspan="1" width="100"/>

<text text="#$date,MM/dd/yy#~#$date,dddd#" fontcolor="255,255,255" fonttype="12,true" leftmargin="5" topmargin="10" spacing="-10" rowspan="2"/>

<text text="#$date,ss#" fonttype="LiquidCrystal,10,true" fontcolor="0,200,0" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" spacing="0" rowspan="1" width="100"/>
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
MUCHOS!....I'll try it

Yeah....that's a no....seems to be on the same line now...but somehow the rows are all messed up...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
I forgot this :

<text text="#$date,ss#" fonttype="LiquidCrystal,10,true" fontcolor="0,200,0" leftmargin="-20" topmargin="0" spacing="0" rowspan="1" width="100" rowspan="3"/>

Try playing with leftmargin negative value to try to move the text left....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
MAGIC!.....how the hell did that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't get it...maybe you can explain that to me sometime....but I'd rather have you work on getting the Contacts to show up....

Thanks for the drive by help session!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
OUCH! memory....

interesting....one MAJOR reason why we want to use this app is that HTC Home is a memory HOG!!!!

I have a fairly loaded up version of the app and look what I found....

HTC: 14 megs Left

TL : 12 megs Left

I'm sure its the Icons...need to make them small and simple....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gullum:
I use a program called PNGGauntlet find it here http://brh.numbera.com/software/pnggauntlet/ it can make png files down to 50% smaler and you can do a whole folder at once if you like
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DrForIslam:
the new release doesnt work on my prophet or wizard

the previous releae working perfectly

i dont know why?

are there any other prog. required?

promise to give u another gif pic. if it work:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sergio2007:
Make sure to install both ThrottleLauncher-0.6Alpha.CAB and DefaultThemes.cab in your Device (not SD card), because this version has a Today plug-in.

If this does not work, please post a screenshot of the error message.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kizmet:
First.. hello.. great app.. and some fantastic themes, guys. It's really good to have read this thread and followed the development of a clever idea.

:)

Some very quick thoughts on first look.

- Today Plugin:

Can it be transparent and configured to be maybe two lines of same sized icons with a header that doesnt cover the icons?

A third line could be a line of static tabs that rolls up in a new page of 2 scrollable lines

With horizontal scrolling implemented.. is it possible to implement vertical scrolling as well? So when you press on an icon it can turn into a vertically scrolling line of further options?

For example a horizontal line of icons for Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Messages.. etc

And if you press and hold on 'word' it turns into a vertical line of icons for 'new', 'load, 'tempate, and if you press on messages you could have 'SMS', 'email', MMS', 'Voice'. You could even go further and have another scrolling line when you press and hold on SMS that says New, inbox, sent, outbox.. etc.

True 2 dimensional scrolling.

I think that would be cool.

But please understand I think your app is great!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigfooo:
Hello

So, i have used it for an entire day without problems, still great

About the today, its still a bit slower on my today sceen, ii plan a hard reset because i have done a lot of tests since a while now and my Storage Mem is quiet full.

About the config app, i have try to make some change in the footer and selest 5 rows. It wrote it on the config Xml, put my icons in 1 column (normal i think) but when i use the configapp to resta=ore it, it never write the right value back, i had to edit the conf.xml files to put back 1row. Thats it

About the registry keys and so, yes i understod i can display some using the text function under the xml file, but what i cant do with TL is to place the items i want in a special place, ( x= and y=), it could be on the header part, or an other kind of rltoday app integrated inside the app ! will it be possible later maybe. The idea is to had some meters the way i want and then, keep only one app running for all shorcuts and meters together.

I loke this app, seems very stable, well done.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chiekh:
i have experienced with this app. that i am using an extender language (arabic) so when i set the date format to arabic the app. wont start and i have un error message and when i set the date to latin format all works fine.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
Has anyone made a today plug with only programs and settings (like in two rows) that can run in bottom of screen?

I am messing around with settings but its a super cool app. Really like it.

FUTURE REQUEST:

To have the icons change size like in Apples (dock?) fancy bottom task launcher, when they move across screen...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigfooo:
Hi Martin

Here is some skins i made today, its not perfect but i might develop again. Anyuway it works, very nice app i must say

So i still myself have some low stuff trouble on my today with some freezes sometimes, but the app works perfect

So enjoy evrybody

http://www.toofiles.com/fr/oip/documents/rar/setups.html

By
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
By the way...I found a VERY quick way to reset the Plugin....

Simply go into the today screen settings on the device...where you pick your items....and press OK.

THAT'S IT.....just go into the Items Tab and press ok....EVerything will reset
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
Great - THX. By after I installed those I get an error telling me that my .net 3.5 is not installed - but it is, so I will look into this before I can report back :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JamesAllen:
Height of Today Plugin

Can anyone tell me how to change the overall height of the Today Plugin, or change the height of rows within the Today Plugin? I edit the config.xml file directly on my PC and don't use the configuration tool.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigfooo:
A over for my touch

Hello Apbilbo

It seems an overclock of my touch make the today plugin work much better, it helps it to react anyway.:):):D

Yes just go to the config tools, no other way it seems...

by
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
u are right i also overclocked my ppc to 624 MHZ..and its running like a charm
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Reply!!

First of all sorry to everyone for not answering this weekend, my internet connection was broken... Sorry.

Thanks for everyone's comments!!

Here are the responses... hope I don't forget anyone... If so tell me please..

Rowspan means the amount of lines of the row the element fills, so, as the seconds has 3 rowspan means it fills a whole column. By using negative left margin you move the text left. Thats all...

About the memory usage it's true that it depends on the icons... Anyway I'm doing some improvements on it like unloading a page when not used for X time.

Thanks for the info!!

Thanks for your comments! I've made some attemps for transparency but seems too much for a device processor while scrolling, too too too slow. About the other "requests" ;) I'll take them in mind but at this time I think there are more basic requisites to achieve.

Thanx! Just wanted to tell you that I've seen some ways of improving the today screen performance for the next release, hope it work's better! (glad to see that overclocking helps ;) )

About the rltoday like app.... I'm working on including today plugins inside the app so... may be you can have rltoday working inside! ;)

Thanks for posting your themes!

I'll try to solve it for next release. Thank for reporting!

I initially thought of what youre talking of "Apples dock" like icons, but when I do some tries it turn out that the painting was really slow... May be in the future we can have better devices (or developers) for that ;).

Thanks!

For this release I've use the resgistry to store some configuration elements at:

HKLM/Software/ThrottleLauncher

You can use the config app for that but just in case you think it's faster through registry...

Also remember to reset you today screen plugin after each change.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
here is an OEM package for :

ThrottleLauncher version 0.5.1 : http://rapidshare.com/files/87260399/ThrottleLauncher-0_5_1_OEM.zip

Throttle Launcher 0.6 Alpha : http://rapidshare.com/files/87261100/ThrottleLauncher-06Alpha_OEM.zip

Default Themes (to be used if u use the 0.6 version ) : http://rapidshare.com/files/87265052/DefaultThemes_OEM.zip

NOTE : I have obtained permission from APBilbo to make OEM's of this Software
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JamesAllen:
Kinetic Settings

<param name="speeddecreaserate" value="1.2" />

<param name="speedinitmultiply" value="1.3" />

What has everyone found to be the "best" settings for these two parameters? I have a "hard" screen protector on my 8525. I am looking for quick horizontal scrolling but would like to avoid inadvertantly launching the icon my finger first lands on to start the scrolling. I am noticing that many times when I place my finger on the row to scroll, I accidently launch the icon my finger touches.

On another subject, correct me if I am wrong but it appears that row height is determined by the height of the largest icon in that row (if not over ridden by specifiying the icon size in the config.xml file for that row.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
For next release, as someone requested previously, I'm planning to include minimun configurable time between the mouse down and up event to try to avoid that from happening... I'm not sure but I think it's a hardware (or an OS) issue as I have made a little application to meassure on screen finger movement and seems sometimes to fail....

About the settings for those two options, I've the same values as you have....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amirdt:
Error on TyTn Kaiser

After install version 0.6 (on TyTn Kaiser) when I run either ThrottleLauncher or ThrottleConfig I get an error (see attached screen captures of the error and the error details).

Any idea?

Edit: Note that I have installed both the program & the Themes on the Storage Card.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
If you have installed to your storage card you may have to copy all the files located on your device on \Program Files\ThrottleLauncher\ (or what ever for your language) to your SD card installation directory... It's a known bug of the Themes instalation... sorry for the inconvenience...

You can also try to install to device...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] davegilbert:
How to backup?

You guys are amazing - can't believe what you are able to cook up on this board.

I have new Sprint Mogul and have already learned a lot. I've now got the touch-based photo viewing software ("Camera Album") and the touch-based shortcuts app "Cube" running (albeit with minor glitches on Cube so far). These were the two things I've been missing since switching from the Touch to Mogul.

As a newbie, here's a basic question - What is best way to back up the software and configuration so that you can start messing around with it, and be able to easily get it back to when you had it working nicely?

Thanks!

~Dave
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
its very easy..the configurations utility lets u preview the Application after configuring it..follow these steps

first make any change and press o.k..after that press the Right soft key and select Preview..if its what u like go back to settings..NOTE : DO NOT EXIT THE SETTINGS OR THE APP OR U WILL LOOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS

but if u dnt want to do all this..the Config utility Creates a backup of the previous Config file by the name config and the new one by the name _config so u can over make a backup of the Old one..after that rename the New one from _Config to Config

if u dnt understand..ask
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudermatt:
Need to make this thing smaller...if possible.

Mine is running at 2megs. that's with no setttings icons at all....and only 5 contacts...

Making it smaller would be wonderful
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DrForIslam:
Thanx again for great app.

Here some pics

How To activate today plugin?

and

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joshrys:
can someone post a step by step on how to make it only show the scrolling bar on the today screen. I don't want anything else to show.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Thanks for the images!!

If I've some time I'll try to post that config xml alone ;). By the way... wich row do you mean?

@everyone:

A screenshot just for you to see I've not been losing my time ;). Hope you like what you see....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigfooo:
Speeds

Hello

I was playing with the settings of the speed to scroll, it was fun.

Well, the first try was to put :

<param name="speeddecreaserate" value="1.0" />

<param name="speedinitmultiply" value="1.2" />

and... hihihih it never stopped

So i have tried to do this :

<param name="speeddecreaserate" value="1.03" />

<param name="speedinitmultiply" value="1.2" />

It was magic, exactly the way i wanted him to stop^, very nice. I dont know why i did not think about it before... :D:D

It miss now a faster way to start the scrolling, but i know it will come, thx APBILBO

PS : I surrendered about the TL plugin, its still freezing sometimes, i better buy a new device if i want it !!!:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chiekh:
Thanks It work now very nice.

now i think is better to do a config app.

thanks good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mar_cin:
keep up good work ;)

and happy new year
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gary800:
Nice

Very Nice App.I have an I-mate Jaq, some of the Links do not match. Some sort of Config. Utility would be sweet. Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gullum:
This is getting realy cool now :D I like this alot and might add it in my future roms for Prophet if I may that is..

but in the program page the icon should not be so big the don't look good when larger then 32x32 the same with recent and running. but I this the contact pictures look better in this last version then the first not shure if it's just because of a full page.

But the option of mant pages is a dream and I love it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] APBilbo:
Thanks a lot for your comments gullum. I'm glad you like it enough to use it on your ROM's!! ;). At this time I do not recommend using it as it is a little bit unnestable. I'm working in start up and memory usage optimization (on my current development version it's first start up is taking less than 6 seconds instead of the near 30 seconds it takes now :-S...) and I want to make a config tool also...

About the size of the icons, the zoom efect is configurable in the config.xml file so you can bring the icons back to normal size just by placing a "1" value in the zoom attributes ;).

Thanks everyone for the feedbacks and the cheering ;)!!