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[MTCD Android Head Units General] flaviote:
Anybody knows if i can upgrade a Eonon GA8172 (will send you pics when i get in my car), from PX3 to PX5? The procedure requires an firmware update (MCU or OS)?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] semcoinc:
See the details on this SoM here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/WITSON-Octa-Core-2GB-RAM-32GB-Flash-Coreboard-For-Android-DVD-Android-5-1-A5XXX-upgrade/32814450733.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.9.43c536a88yw6Go&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10130_10547_10546_10059_10884_10548_315_10545_10887_10696_100031_10084_531_10083_10103_10618_10307_449,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=c35fe7a7-d005-4ba2-b0b0-9c7ce976163f-1&algo_pvid=c35fe7a7-d005-4ba2-b0b0-9c7ce976163f&priceBeautifyAB=0

I have an Eonon GA6166 and successfully used this Witson SoM without any issues.

Caveat emptor.

Mike
[MTCD Android Head Units General] flaviote:
Thanks for sharing your experience, i think i will make the decision and give a try! :)

Have you updated the any firmware before making the board change?

P.S: Caveat emptor (we don't have any other option, hehe).
[MTCD Android Head Units General] semcoinc:
I do recall saving my .cfg file

Also, my unit's case seemed to have gotten warmer after the PX5 upgrade, so I hung a fan on it to provide some forced air cooling

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Mike
[MTCD Android Head Units General] flaviote:
Sorry about my ignorance, but in wich folder its located that ".cfg file"?

About the heating, saw some people installed passive heatsinks, attached to the mainboards, i will evaluate anything like that!

Thanks again Mike!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] semcoinc:
All I can remember is that it is in the same place as where you would select your vehicle logo.

That is the best description that I can provide at the moment.

Sorry.

Mike
[MTCD Android Head Units General] flaviote:
Found that in the "Factory Settings" menu, i've exported the settings as a .cfg file. Thanks Mike.

I've made the order of the 4GB PX5 from AliExpress, hope to get it soon, i'm from Uruguay!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] flaviote:
Finally, upgraded my PX3 to PX5 in the GA8172 Eonon, 8th Gen Civic.

The unit is 4 times faster than before! What a change!

I've made a custom heatsink, hehe.

I've lost the HDMI Output because the PX3 has it onboard :(
[MTCD Android Head Units General] jj8998jj:
Deep sleep mode of PX5

Dear Mat,

Thank you very much for your message, really useful for me.

Do you know about the "Deep sleep mode" of the PX5?.....If yes, could you please release your know-how to me?....I really need to learn more about that badly....Thanks.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
I do understand....it was just to clarify the comments about not very fair comparison

Anyway it is a perception from your side about both units performance

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
Biggest difference anyone is going to have between the units is 2gb ram, that seems to help the most.

PX5 Seems on par with the PX3 RK3188 2gb videos i've watched.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Car headunit is basically that...a car device. Most of us use them just for maps and music.

Maps apps are high ram demanding and that's why 1 GB RAM is not enough.

I don't think we could appreciate the differences on 2gb ram.units for the common use.

Quality of these devices is good in general. Few complaints (more related to the limited functionality due to mcu governing specific features)but in general not much different to the quality of the very known brands (which sells more limited devices to double or triple the price)

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] Hilari0:
I don't think this was a review to compare the two as equal units. It was more of a comparison to show the performance increase from PX3 to PX5, and what benefits the new gave over the old. More of an "If you have a PX3 and want to upgrade to PX5, this is what you could expect". Which is completely fine and fair to me. Nitpicking about the firmware is pointless, sure a new firmware might take care of a few bugs, but it's not gonna make it faster than the new PX5 with 2 GB ram, if it did that then why would anyone even bother to upgrade?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] WILD9:
You seem strangely defensive, the guy has just put up his thoughts and experience on a forum which is exactly what forums are for. If you are happy with your unit then that's awesome but it doesn't change FauxDreams experience.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] selbyog:
Any info regarding the CPU temp or the governor? From what I've read Intel Sofia can get quite hot while PX3 has a fairly defensive governor that clocks the chip around 1-1.1 Ghz (probably for protection).

Thanks!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
No idea on the temps, I'll actually see if an app can monitor them at all.

I know when I was doing all the testing & running youtube/spotify/igo navigation etc. That after about 30mins The metal chassis was pretty damn warm, to the point that I considered opening it up and throwing a small fan in there or using some arctic silver adhesive to stick some heat sinks onto the heat-spreader on the PX5 a lot warmer than the PX3 RK3188 version ever got.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Hilari0:
It's pointless to nitpick about firmware when comparing an UPGRADE, going from PX3 to a PX5. All he shows is if the PX5 is faster or how much faster than a PX3, it won't make much difference if the PX3 has the latest firmware or not in this particular case. Sure, for a proper review of the PX3 the firmware should be the latest and greatest to not give a false view about the unit, but this is not a review like that. This is a guy who had a PX3, bought a PX5 and decided to put up a video to show what has changed and what are the pros and cons from upgrading from a PX3 unit to a PX5 unit. I honestly don't think upgrading the firmware on the PX3 will change that comparison at all. Don't really understand what all the fuzz is about, I'm happy that there is a video showing comparison between these two, and I hope someone puts up a video comparing the Intel Sofia against the PX5.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] selbyog:
That indicates a good design (the chassis acts as a sink). Depending on how hot the CPU is compared to the chassis an extra sink might not help too much. Sounds like a fan would work better but it would need some holes for air to get in/out (which can lead to dust, etc...).

If you can, please try to see what governor you have in place - if it keeps the CPU always at full speed, changing it to be dynamic will surely reduce the temp. If not, well, better cooling is needed...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Hilari0:
I think we only have one parrot in here Madyen.... You clearly did not get the point of that video...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dude-nl:
Thanks that you took the afford of making the review!

The biggest difference is the 2GB ram.

Maybe when I hve some free time, I'll benchmark my rk3188 with upgraded ram to 2GB as a comparisation for the picky ones here.

Then we can see how the differences are.

Can you give me link to the benchmark apk you used?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
It's just ANTUTU from the google play store. Free.

Would be interesting to see.

Cheers
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Hilari0, Take a good look at your home wall mirror you gonna see it :laugh: !!

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yeah, nice one.. right?.. keep it shiny its a medal of honor for forums L.. guys like you ;)

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To You!!!

Next time do not send any threatening pm, if you have something to say? let's be openly on this forum where everyone could read our disagreement and the rules which you are point to in your pm then we should both know who's right and who's wrong.. gotcha?

:good:

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Hilari0:
I didn't send any PM.. And I think the parrot is found in your shiny mirror. :) I suppose you're one of those who complains about biased videos comparing a benchmark between the latest GPU and last years GPU because the driver was off by a .1 version... LOL
[MTCD Android Head Units General] CARRisma:
Does anyone else get the distinct impression that someone on the forum might be working for Xtrons?

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Why so desperate for thanks?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
I can now confirm the dmcu.img & dupdate.img on the previous page work.

PX5 unit is now MCU Jan 13th 2.12_1 & System software Jan 12th.

Put both files on the root of GPS card, due to a bug in the Jan7th software you have to install System Update first.

Once done you run the MCU update from the About menu as well.

No initial differences that concern my use, radio station still reset randomly coming out of sleep.

I have figured out, I can hold the power button for 10 seconds to hard power off the unit if I'm not going to be using the vehicle for extended periods of time and I'm worried about the battery.

Will continue to update with my findings as I use the unit more.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dude-nl:
sorry for late reply. I will benchmark my unit friday...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] skiwi:
The root password *#hct#root# does not work. Does anyone know the root password for the px5?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Perhaps there is not any root password.

The software devwloper is the same for all mtcd units (hct). On intel.ones there was no root password, but root possible by injecting the su app and modifying the boot partition.

Check root methods for 3368 processor If any could work

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] Stroff:
Hi, all.

I very close to buying the HU on PX5 now.

I already had units on RK3066 and PX3 (Sofia 3GR). The sold last one because I can't got root rights on it. Have root rights are very important for me, coz I want to have the Xposed for some tweaks.

What u can say/think about root right on PX5?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Which kind of sofia unit that you can't get root access???

Mtcd sofia can access root easily (https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=71038390) as well as joying ones.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] Stroff:
Yes, yes, u r right! My mistake, little confused)

I mean XPOSED which not available on SoFIA.

Would be available on this device?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Try standard MTCD processes for Root and xposed.

Experience with xposed on MTCD is that xposed results in issues even if immediately OK.

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if I did help you, please hit "thanks" button

if I did help you, please hit "thanks" button

Where is that button.

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which button?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
You are right with xposed

Nobody still got it working.

What specifically do you need for using xposed?

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] Stroff:
When I had HotAudio 2100 on RK3066 & KitKat I had no problems with XPOSED add-ons.

Now I would like to have same add-ons on my new HU :

App Settings

Immerse Me

SkyolinHelper

YouTube Background Playback

And may be smth else
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
What?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
On intel sofia units (it was supposed that we were talking about that)

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] CARRisma:
[MENTION=744370]ikerg[/MENTION] why are you so desperate for thanks? Why do you feel the need to ask people to thank you after every post? It's coming across as quite sad.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
I am not desperate...it ia just my signature....is the same as you could read "sent from.tapatalk from xxxxx"

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] CARRisma:
Well that explains it. Not.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
The Factory Settings password is 261

To root my MTCD PX5 I used "Kingo Root", "Kingroot" unfortunately did not work.

However after getting it rooted and accessing Factory Settings I find that the Head Unit always does a Cold Boot. Unless I start the car after a couple of minutes.

Is there a way to change the sleep timer to something else? I'd Prefer 12hr as my cars battery wont be too affected by a low amperage headunit.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
I'm not rooted but since updating mine cold boots randomly when I hit the ignition as well.

It no longer fast boots, It's a pain in the ass and I'm getting pretty frustrated with the unit.

Xtrons support says there is no new updates now either since my 12th Jan update that they sent me.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
Im guessing its just the MTCB's at the moment that have been modified by the community which has the settings to change sleep mode. As when I turn my car off it will fastboot within a minute or 2, not really waited around longer. Definitely cold boots over 30minutes however.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Hi,

Was it not just better if you had waited for some nice guy to root the newer PX5 img? instead of using of such root apk's, you never know what mess these root apk's throwing in your os hu.. right?.. maybe if you asking Solmer #111 (if I'm not mistaken?) kindly to compilation the img (12-01-2017) and just root it as he did it with his hu was much better.. I guess!

https://xdaforums.com/android-auto/...ing-rom-supersu-tweaked-speed-t3475086/page12 .. Ask him kindly mate, maybe gonna do it ;)

Ps: don't expected much from these burning things, they given only stupid commentary on the forum but they helping nobody with their copy&paste of an old cow = post.. so tha's why!!!

:fingers-crossed:

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
Theirs a few issues with the HU so far. google maps voice stutters badly, (its an inbuilt app so who knows why.) bluetooth is limited to what it can do, just handsfree and a2dp. WiFi has so far been its 1 major weakpoint.

It has taken me all week to get my music synced onto google play. 10GB may be a lot but I've had to leave my car in the warehouse with the key in to allow it to have time to download in safety.

Right now I'm getting 0.2mpbs download and 5mbps upload. This is both at work and at home, If i tether to my mobile (which can get 76mbps download) its still very very slow.

Apart from that its great. No interface lag that others report on other headunits and sound quality is fantastic. Just literally need to get my WiFi sorted on it.

Just to emphasise the time i've had wifi connected over this week, I've had it connected to either my home, work or Hotspot for around 12hrs. to download 12.5gb. (10gb of music and 2gb of apps and updates).

Thanks Madyen, I'll contact them and see if they will sort the img. it'd be better than using kingoroot etc.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Mate,

I agree with you mate about the weak of the wifi signal receiving, with the older one which I had is much better signal receiving then this new one.. it's an "childhood disease!" and its needs some good and better fw/sw ofcourse!

If xtrons gonna do nothing about it? now, men should live with it.. unfortunately!!

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
I'm wondering if its just because the WiFi antenna is mounted directly to the back of the unit... perhaps an antenna mounted on the dash would be better. may give it a try. it would be nice if bluetooth had the full stack and could allow Bluetooth Tethering, it would only be 2.4mbps but it would be reliable to mobile tethering.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Mate,

Exactly what I had been thinking a long time about it.. you were absolutely right, well done mate :good:

(I thought might buy a long wifi antenna cable.. maybe should fixed?)

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Indeed guessing; the option to select sleep between off and 2 hours on ignition off is a out of the box MTC* factory setting. Review your head unit settings.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
It was introduced on mtc* rk3188 units, as for the intel ones that option was removed (the intention is that always stays at deep sleep - even though some users [like me] reported random cold boots.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
Mines a rockchip px5 octo-core Cortex A53 processor. But i cannot find the Settings for sleep in factory settings. Unless its named differently.

I have the MCTD GS v2.11_1
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
Unfortunately I do not have it listed in "Factory Settings". Is it perhaps named something else with an unclear set of options?. It'd do if we had a terminal command instead.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Unfortunately there is no sleep in setting nor factory settings, and I just found a new bug; the buttons lights of the hu they goes not on but only if you turn the car light on,

I had send email to xtrons and ofcourse asking them for a better fw for this new one, the answer was; there is no new fw (or sw?) for this unit, (it looks likes men got his first test product.. or maybe not?)

The good things is: if I turn it off (on off button) and start my car after some time the hu keeping himself off!

Still it needs a better fw and some bug's fixes!

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Guys I have good news for you,

After I send 2 email to that lovely xtrons lady (:angel:) and asking her kindly to make contact with the fw/sw developers guys and asking them to make a better and bug free new fw/sw for the newer big boy hu and I mentioned to her the 1,2,3 bug's etc.

Today I have received a email from her with a link to the newest fw/sw Rar folder and I like to share it with you guys:

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=...=1F95B9BEAD2D83A!388&parId=root&action=locate

2017-1-13

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-KERNEL: G-SENSOR

- update the text strong 725 Bluetooth break ACC and then ACC can not connect OBD problems.

- Update the UI interface for customized LOGO

2017-1-16

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- update text strong BC6 bluetooth gocsdk;

- update mobile phone Internet apk, deal with crosstalk problem;

- remove the useless prop, modify the Google Pinyin input method bpatch can be configured

- Remove the carousel from beginning and stop recording of the tone

- update video and video VPUApi library

2017-1-18

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- Synchronous RK code 20170118

2017-01-20

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- Fixed "some of the main interface into all applications, and then set the switch language inside, and then press the home to return to the main interface, the main interface can not slide" problem

2017-02-07

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- Fixed WIFI turn on standby time

- Fixed "radio text and psn length over 8 bytes" problem

2017-02-09

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- Fixed radio ACC frequency reset problem

- Update MF833v 4G dangle bug

- Update recovery to version V6.0.9

2017-02-13

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- update traffic in the video playback strategy, network video, other players are now supported

- factory settings close open application bug

- built-in cvbs DVR factory settings according to customer needs

-sync canbus

:good:

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
Thanks for posting that Madyen, they sent me that yesterday but I've been offline.

So far as it says, it's fixed the Radio reset for me & the clock now stays as 12hour instead of resetting to 24hour.

The standby/fast boot seems to be working again now as well.

I still have WiFi delay on powerup however it seems.

Would be great for a timer like the old unit though, to keep my USB 4G modem powered up for a set time like I used to do with my PX3 5.1.1 unit as that would keep the USB powered while timer was active.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Hi,

You are welcome Mat-e, about the timer setting I already sending them (to that lady) a email about it and about other bugs so just wait for the next update, if the lovely xtrons lady (:angel:) gonna send it to them (fw/sw developers) of course?

The Radio reset and also BT lost his connection (1 time) I mentioned that to her too!

So just wait for the next update img!

Ps: mine boot in 1 second.. so fast as an Ariane 10 rocket ;)

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Hi Mat,

Thanks for taking the time to write up a comprehensive comparison. Would it be possible for you to post some internal pics of the unit?

Cheers

- M
[MTCD Android Head Units General] WILD9:
I'm still interested to know your thoughts on the sound quality, you mention it is better, I know it's hard to describe but how so? Clearer, less background noise etc?

Ta
[MTCD Android Head Units General] FauxDreams:
Looks no different to a PX3 unit inside, the interchangeable core board just has a heatspreader/heatsink on it.

The last unit I had (Xtrons 5.1.1 PX3 rk3188 1gb) a hiss constantly when no audio was playing it also felt muddy. Might've just been my specific unit I'm not sure.

I use the RCA outputs.

I have a full stereo install in my vehicle and nothing was changed when switching out the two units both units were chassis grounded as well as harness ground etc.

Cheers

Mat
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
Thanks Madyen for your smooth talking with the developers, I will download the updates now and plant them in my HU.

:victory:

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I have a very dodgy idea that may work around the usb power-off...

Get a "Dual Power Charge Cables Y Adapter" for example see https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charge-Adapter-Extension-Transfer-Charging/dp/B01N0VBH63

You normally find these in old USB 2 hard drives that needed the extra power (when 500ma per USB port was all that was available.)

You'd need to plug it into a usb charger and wire that in somehow either by lighter socket or from 12v wires behind dash...

It would keep the dongle powered as long as the lighter has power (a constant 12v in some cars!)

*warning*

Could lead to ground Loop, Hissing, etc.

May damage electronics (probably not but I don't want to get the blame)
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
Mate,

You are most welcome ;)

BrGd

Madyen

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Hi,

And if you just connect it or wire it in to a -or with- car 12v cable (or just solder it?) instead of plug it into usb charger.. is it not better than?

;)

BrGd

Madyen
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ChromeSkull:
You would still need a 5v dropper of some kind and it would be easier to use a usb car charger either in the lighter socket or wired behind dash.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Madyen:
That clarifies and clearer it.. or just wire it into or with a 5v cable from the car quadlock! :good:

BrGd

Madyen