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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dooshmcgoosh:
Very lame. I wouldnt even feel right if i got all this credit and praise, an article written and a bunch of peoples hopes up and then just completely dis without explanation. A man or woman should keep their word.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I agree! Such a shame as the person who wrote the article was nice enough to do so then the developer disappears. I hear that happens with a lot of devs here though.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
I do wonder perhaps since there was mentions of developing this for Oreo is why we haven't heard anything for awhile. Also real life stuff does happen as well. So who really knows why things have gone silent from the devs working on this.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stonkers:
Read his posts in the lineage n920t note 5 thread. Theres a few more insights to the mystery
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Cant even find him

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I wanna withdraw my 20$$ pledge i made sum 300 post ago
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] exadeci:
[MENTION=5184450]USA-RedDragon[/MENTION] Doesn't owe us anything and I understand that he has probably other things in his life that mean he abandoned this but it's a shame that he didn't left any of his work on this on github so someone else can take over it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
Based upon what was said before it was deleted (issues with Desolation ROM) I understand perhaps why we haven't heard anything for awhile. Hopefully down the road another AOSP ROM can be used to bring us second screen goodness to our V20.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] emdroidle:
I've got too many other fires to put out right now to hope to work on this right now. I do know some about how the second screen and what the code would look like.

On a hardware level there is no second screen, just one big 1440x2720 panel. The "second screen" is simply the top 160 rows. Touch sensing is similar, simply takes the top portion. At the top of the LineageOS cm-14.1 kernel tree the option CONFIG_LGE_DISABLE_SECOND_SCREEN disables them so LineageOS can function like the area isn't there. If you're a developer simply turning that option off will enable the full area and things will be a bit interesting.

From a software standpoint the best information is the custom widgets application (source here). This though depends upon LGE's implementation of the API.

What other technical information has been gathered? Get all the data and someone else may be able to finish this task.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
This might help as well

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45891001/appwidgets-on-appwidgethost-disappearing-after-reboot

red was reaching out to other devs for some insight on how to fixes the final bugs. I'm sure this isn't all the code, but at least it's a little bit. The problem I've ran in to, is needing the lg frameworks api.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FGat:
Hi There.

Isnt Zacharee1 still involved in the dev of the second screen app/api?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
You guys are all wishing upon a star that will never happen. The V20 is done. RR has had it's last update . Desolation is dead. Classic is dead. The only thing left is LOS and soon it will probably be gone for the V20 .
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
Nothing but truth!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Sad but true. I'll be getting a Note 8 anyway. It was fun while it lasted.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Angry_Toe:
So that's it? People like me who can't afford to get a new phone every year are just left in the dust?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
I'm afraid so
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] NippleSauce:
I'm in the same boat, friend. I think I'm just gonna start putting $20 aside every pay period. By the time the V20's development is completely dead, I should have enough to snag an S8 off of Swappa. I just hope that there's still a root method and bootloader unlock by that time...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stonkers:
It boggles my mind. The g3 gets a new rom about once a month. I thought i was being smart when i bought this phone. Like its a pixel with a removable battery and sd slot. Who woulda thought...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] askermk2000:
It certainly got good all-round hardware, and possibly the best dac/-implementation of any smartphone and portable players alike. Good build quality too.

As I see it it is mainly because the community is moving towards open platforms like OnePlus, just look at how much activity there are on those forums. In Lg's case it doesn't help with their past bootloop issues, and that they are actively creating all kinds security blockages to to prevent rooting.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
It was good
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stonkers:
Yeah pretty much.. Im still rockin it tho. Desolation is great with official xposed and i got like 14 modules and it runs perfectly.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cooldan613:
Still waiting and hoping that development will happen for this phone, picked it up not too long ago. The one frustrating thing is how lg is neglecting the us996 with updates compared to the carrier variant.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Carrier variants are still 7.01 so how's that lack of updates I use my v20 for a WiFi hotspot lol on my second line I don't use it anymore
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lowridincrew,:
I guess I'm going to start saving to get another phone. Glad I only paid about $380 for it brand new.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
I think when either the second screen API source is released or when Oreo finally gets an official release we'll see some pick up again with ROMs for the V20. Honestly I'm okay with using WETA 5.1 on my H918 until the still in development ROM from oZoP [MENTION=364033]stangdriver44[/MENTION] is released which from the few preview pictures (including the one I attached) that has been released looks very sweet.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] almony8:
Are you certain that ozop is still in development?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Absolutely.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Yeah, I think it's basically part of the status bar too. I dual boot with Resurrection Remix and love it but gotta stay in Weta because let's face it the second screen extremely useful. Shame these AOSP don't seem to think so. Not that I'm complaining. It's awesome we have a great deal of AOSP roms for these device unlike my Note 5 which I did love.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
It's not that AOSP devs don't want to implement it, it's just that the entire framework needs to be recreated.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Yeah, that makes sense. You just don't hear anything about it unless they've been working on it?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pro_granade:
They haven't. It won't happen. Ever. Too much work, and no one cares about the V20 anymore.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I'm not sure why you think that last part.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pro_granade:
Because I talk to a group of AOSP devs and most of the people who helped out rooting the V20. (DirtySanta Team)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod6:
Special guy aren't ya ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I disagree at least with no one caring about the V20 anymore. There are a great deal of AOSP roms still being developed.

I don't get why guys like you have to come into threads like this and troll.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pro_granade:
I'm not trolling. There's a difference between being a developer and compiling a rom. Compilation is easy to do. I also know a lot of the big devs, me2151, Saintz, etc. No devs that know what they're doing will do anything about it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] me2151:
Honestly....... i could care less for second screen... im perfectly happy without it. I only used it to tell the time and as a gimmick for looking at my name. i actually felt it was in the way more than i used it. And yes Keeper. Grenade is Special ;)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod6:
Maybe we should throw up a bounty on various sites lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
That might be a good idea.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] myabc:
Hello to all members. Please in h990n version, on second display i have week dau in English even if my language is set in italian. Can anyone tell me if is possible to change? How? Thanks
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod6:
Science experiment, what if these three apks were inserted into system app of aosp and flashed a stock kernel over it?? Bootloop? The world may never know.. lol. There's also two overlay apks but idk if they're necessary . I'd try myself but no time right now
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Team DevDigitel:
tried, it dosn't work. It relies on the systemui to make it complete, aosp is a pure android ui. It would need all the code moved over to be a complete setup.

Modcontrol & modinstaller are both that will install all of those parts, but installing the ui will cause severe bootloops on a aosp rom.

The issue arises that XDA wont stand for copywrite infringement, where the 2nd screen api is copywrited and closed source.

So re-using their app on a diffrent project is not acceptable, as well a dev wont release a build thats containing copywrite info.

The need would be re-writing the code so less the 70% of the code is not matching a existing code.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod6:
Word. Thanks ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rubiicon59:
*copyright

Just saying.... ;)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
[MENTION=4553200]Mentalmuso[/MENTION]
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabe2014:
Hopefully we get this Rom Soon , how its working ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Only proof of concept at this point, but things are happening.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] emdroidle:
There are still a number of people targeting the V20. Perhaps some things will take a while, but at least some of us don't plan to disappear for a while.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
I hope someone does start to do something. I've read a few things on making roms and it's all foreign to me. If I had someone show me or guide me once then I would build a custom LOS or AOSP rom but I'm lost.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FGat:
So there is not even 1 dev of the original team working on this?

wth happened, everyone suddenly having midlife crisis or what

Considering sitting on a 2016 software version of Android 7 US996 its hard to switch on a AOSP Android like lineage without a working 2nd screen app and without Quad DAC Support....

I guess we V20 useres are screwd.... :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Grillac:
Even worse, when I tried an AOSP rom I couldn't get my network settings to work correctly. So I either had data and no texting, or didn't have data and had texting.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] awidawad:
Which model do you have? What rom did you flash?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Grillac:
I have the US996 model. I've flashed both variants of Lineage for US996 and the AOKP rom as well. I played with all the radio settings, including the hidden menu by dialing *#*#4636#*#*, and I couldn't get anything to work. Could be because I am on Verizon though...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] awidawad:
I am on Verizon too. One thing I find myself doing is having to call on boot (only need to once) to be able to use data and text at the same time. This is an issue with RIL that is trying to be worked out. I would try that. Also verify your cdma settings. I use LTE/CDMA auto (PRL). I dial my voicemail number, wait for tone, hangup, and now everything works until I reboot and I have to repeat.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Grillac:
I believe I tried that. I'm currently on WETA and don't feel like having to set my phone back up again, but if I do ever get the itch to run AOSP, I definitely will try that.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] zeusofyork:
I'm not going anywhere for quite awhile. Honestly when it came time to update from my note 5 I almost went to a note 4 for the IR blaster, expandable memory, and removable battery. I found the v20 and went for it instead. Newer thought there would be more dev support. Unfortunately main support didnt last too long. Oh well I still love the phone. The rom I'm using now works just fine for me. I'm learning g to program right now so eventually I'm going to get into phones as a side project. Hopefully ill eventually be able to build myself and actually help the effort. Waiting around for stuff blows but I get its time and dedication. Eventually **** will get updated.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] drklaw:
I'm sticking with the v20, too. I came from a note 4 that blew its motherboard. I was half watching TV and researching the note 8 because I was missing the s pen. During this time I changed my battery and used the IR blaster all within 10 minutes. That changed my mind about the note 8...

LG-H918 / WETA 5.1
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FGat:
Hey folks, do you guys know if someone tried to make use of the dedicated quad DAC in any AOSP for the V20? This feature is at least as much important as the 2nd screen to begin with...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Use V4A.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lowridincrew,:
Not that I know of. I don't think it's possble. Someone correct me If I'm wrong.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FGat:
What is V4A?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nightshadow931:
Viper4Android
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] emdroidle:
I've got another target right now, so I'm mostly gathering notes for later experimentation or passing to someone else whose forte is closer towards Android/Java (I'm stronger at the kernel/Unix API level). I've obtained a high level of detail on what was done in [MENTION=5184450]USA-RedDragon[/MENTION]'s experimental second screen implementation.

The target was AOSP, so a bit of adaptation would be needed for LineageOS. From those it looks like the custom widgets application was being used for the actual widgets (this is a guess, I haven't dug into things too far).

I've passed my notes to two people who seemed like they might be up for this task, hopefully they can complete things.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Could it be possible to get the quad DAC working as well?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jl10101:
I've been nagging LG on Twitter for the last couple of months now. They said they'll let me know of any progress on the sources possibly. Not sure what that means. But I have gotten replies on both attempts.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mdl054:
Please add me for $25 for the bounty :highfive:

I believe the DAC is the sound driver essentially so basically proprietary code. There may be a way who knows but not sure if you would see it in Lineage. Possibly a flashable addon later like the GPU drivers?

Also going nowhere. No other phone has removable battery and SD card. Those two features are absolutely set in stone for me. I travel a LOT and I can't be carrying 10 charging bricks with me. I run out of battery then just swap it with one I have charged in my pocket. Done. Pair that with a 200GB SD card and I can fit anything I want.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr_DjEnder:
kinda ot but the kernel does have es9018/es9218 code for the dac, disable it in kernel and install it and when you plug in headphones sound comes out the speaker. the phone can't detect headphones at all if the dac is disabled in kernel AFAIK

the msm8996 sound soc has code in it to hand off functions to the dac if it is enabled so it is processing and doing something now whether we have the impedance mode or not is a different question. and in theory yes we do but the people running custom roms don't often have high end headphones and the ones that do are running stock for the best sound quality.

also consider that LG may have changed the way sound works in LG v20 stock rom and we wouldn't know, and the way lineage os has set it up may different so that the dac may not behave completely like stock
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod:
With a AOSP kernel we already know this can flood that part of the screen but what if instead of looking at this for the widgets what if it was used more like essential phone or iPhone x where as just that space would be used for status bar essentials and then not used for full screen media events. You can get the floating widget from the v30. You'll already have built in always on screen so I think it should be looked at from practical use point instead of just trying to replicate it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mdl054:
I believe that's essentially what it does in design
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CM-Tester:
So whats going on here... A year after starting this thread still no chance of a working second screen (e.g. for use with lineage) ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Nope
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Angry_Toe:
Is there at least any way to have something showing in the second screen with a rom? I just don't want to have a big black bezel.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lowridincrew,:
No
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
No sign of fruit :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Redline:
I can't find the specific post, but the guys working on LineageOS 14.1 for the H990/DS (namely [MENTION=6984210]emdroidle[/MENTION] and [MENTION=2881807]x86cpu[/MENTION] ) have said they're looking into a possible way to implement it, although it will be hard and isn't a priority.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
Maybe now with Lineage 15.1 in the works for the V20 perhaps the second screen API stuff might come back to light. One can hope, right? :D
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabe2014:
Lets back this alive I doble my bonty a really Wich play Whit the second screen on asop rom (I know just in my dreams for now but is possible )

Lest dance Whit the v20 again

Who more want to put money on this project ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] x86cpu:
If anyone knows more detail on java stuff, contact me. I've run into some issues with it. Getting stuck in a SystemUI crashing, which makes the entire ROM unusable.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabe2014:
I still hoping on this project , hopefully on of this day will see a new tread about second screen sucefull Workin on LOS ? Wich to have more skill to help you guy's ....
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Just dropping in to say this project isn't abandoned. It's now my primary programming focus.

I am starting from scratch, but I've also made some progress, and the end result should at least be fully functional, with just some wonky animations when rotating the screen.

At the moment, I have the proper screen height/width (portrait/landscape), but it's centered, so it's still partially cut off by the notch.

If anyone knows LineageOS really well (@emdroidle ?), I could really use some help with getting the offsets working. I've been copying LG's code, and they make some changes to LogicalDisplay and DisplayContent in services, but neither of these classes seem to even be instantiated on LOS, and the adjustments have zero effect.

Again, not abandoned. And I might even do a public test ROM, although only for the H918, because I don't have hard drive space for more.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Also, I'll be retaining the widget model LG uses, meaning that Stock LG SignBoard features will be portable without too much effort, and that my BoredSigns app will work as well.

The plan is also to build in the basic widgets myself, which will all be open source and easily addable to other ROMs (many will need to be compiled with the rest of the ROM).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Redline:
Contact [MENTION=2881807]x86cpu[/MENTION] as in another thread (can't remember which specifically), he was working on trying to get it going himself. I think he needed help with the Java side of things, but he definitely knows LOS as he's the one building it for everybody. Hopefully you two can work together and get it running, at the moment I think it's just crashing.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
That was in this thread lol. Scroll up.

He's the one who actually got me up and running with my own AOSP build environment and such.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Wow this is a slow process. AOSP needs better documentation...

In any case, I have the offsets all working, even though the rotation animations aren't pretty (still not sure if I should even bother fixing that; it's just a visual thing, not functional). What's next is figuring out how to display content in the second screen area.

Once that's working, I'll actually be able to start work on the app itself, which should go a lot quicker.

I'm still debating actually releasing a beta, since it probably would only be for the H918, and would only work below 10p, but if anyone's willing to try once it's ready, that'd be helpful.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabe2014:
Nice to read this, I'm still firm with my bounty just waiting for the knews wend LOS have a second screen working and with a new h918 v20 ✌
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ColdSnowden:
I have the H910 (The ATT version) I would be willing to test it if it works on my version. (I read somewhere that certain things are compatible between the two)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] scottyrick:
I have a H918 10j, running lineage 14.1 right now. Be happy to test the new beta once its ready!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
I'm willing to see if it works on Lineage 15.1 on the H918 (10t here). Worse case scenario is it doesn't work so I got nothing to lose.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Grillac:
I have a US996, but I'm willing to be a guinea pig for this version
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
I sent a pm to you but in case your pm box is full, I got a H918 with 10s/10p/10t (I can downgrade it)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod:
I can try on h918
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadavis08:
Below 10p means lower than 10p anything after 10p will not work. And you can't go back past 10p if you have anything after it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
I had 10s and was able to rollback to 10p and I was able to root with that, so idk what ur talking about
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] PhantomGamers:
10p is ARB1 so you can't downgrade to anything before it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
Ik it's ARB 1 but that doesn't mean you can't downgrade to a older version still with ARB 1. 10 S/P are ARB 1 which is why I said I can downgrade to those versions only and not a version with ARB 0 for example.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadavis08:
Well if it'll only work below 10p and you cant get any lower than 10p. You figure it out.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
I mean it's a screen mod so I don't see why it would rely on things like the version # but sure man.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadavis08:
I'm just going on what Zach said. Ask him if that's what he meant. Lol.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
Can you quote where he said that? Idk what ur referring to
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadavis08:
You quoted this post yourself. Are you so oblivious to what you post. That you don't even read it? And then argue about it lol.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
LineageOS 14.1, which is what I'm working with right now, doesn't work on 10p or later.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ak7J4:
I was arguing about this post because I said I can downgrade 10s,10p,10t, but never said anything besides that. That's why I listed the versions.