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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] sobriquet506:
I'll throw my vote in for an N release!

I probably won't update to O for at least a year, so any progress there will be moot for me.

That said, I want the V20 to live for as long as it feasibly can, so I'll cough up my portion of the bounty, whatever ends up happening!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsx:
We do appreciate your hard work (all of the team members). I think you should jump to Android O and delay the work with the second screen for nougat. Why? Because once the team release Desolation "O", most of the users will follow that thread instead of staying back with nougat. However, do what you feel like to. We will patiently wait for the outcome of your awesome work.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aaren11:
Indeed I had, thanks for that.

Why is everyone so keen for O? I thought Google was meant to be pushing more Play integration and more austere Root restrictions? Even if those things have been rolled back, or people find ways around them - O doesn't seem to have much new to offer over N...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] exadeci:
Was there any official announcement of LG bringing Oreo to the V20 ?

Even if they do it will take ages and many V20 models might not get it before 2018
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
The v20 uses the msm8996 board. We can use the google source to update our trees as needed for the custom rom side. As for stock, I'm not sure if there will be an official release or not, and I haven't found any article that announces it as of yet. But you are right, it could be a while before official stock O for v20 comes out...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dooshmcgoosh:
That still made absolutely no sense... And yes i am trolling
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] exadeci:
The non American versions on the V20 only got root about 2 months ago and there is no rom available so if this API goes out only to Oreo only Americans will get it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
I can't speak for all the devs here, but as for me, I only develop on the device(s) I own. I don't do blind builds any more. But if you have/get the source code for your version from lg, then you can build on that with your own trees. Not saying that it won't have it's challenges, but it is possible with comparing the device trees of other variants. I've done it many times even after the manufacturer dropped support (i.e. SGS4G wasn't suppose to get any updates past gingerbread. I and a few others successfully brought ics to it and I even went as far as carrying the device through jb.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
What's with the size? o_O
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
Alot of times people just look at your post and go ya whatever. I wanted it to be seen because ALOT of people don't donate and I think its crap that there are alot of mooches on this board who take but do not contribute to the Devs nor the cause. The Devs work hard and seriously all people can come up with is $440
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] loguhn:
no disrespect to you sir, but not everyone has money to just throw everywhere.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] uppon2:
Please stay on topic, guys. This thread is close to being reported to moderators to be cleaned. It's getting messy and everybody needs to keep their opinions to themselves, unless they want to continue it in pm.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mr. Clown:
This ^^. Thank you.

Back on topic.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Thisisabadname:
Can I make a suggestion for a widget on the second screen? Im regretfully beginning to notice image retention on the second screen. There should be an animated static widget (like tv noise) to relieve the burned in images like using a static app on the main screen.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
Here is a fix of screen burn in :)

https://xdaforums.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Good idea
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Thisisabadname:
Oh, I meant without rooting. I have the H990DS and I don't want to go through the incredibly complicated procedure...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
... the second screen api that is being created is for rooted devices, as it would be for custom roms. Please leave now.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Thisisabadname:
But I downloaded the sign board widgets app and it works perfectly
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Different developer, similar project. That is Zacharees baby. Current discussion is for USA-Red's complete rebuild of the second screen API to make it compatible for AOSP builds. My apologies, I misunderstood you. You still had a good idea though.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
Then Buddy Go find an app in playstore or google it.

You need an app to adjust screen RGB values and set the Red green blue to 240 if you found one :)

Hopefully you'll in sha Allah
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Guys, it's not possible to display a moving image in the second screen.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Fair enough. Now we know. Thanks bud!

Do we have a decision on whether or not we are waiting for O for SSS to drop?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Note that I know.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Didn't know if you and red were working on it together or not lol.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
Red is still working on issues, and juggling with real life as well. As far as I know, the app still isn't surviving reboot (hopefully my suggestion fixes it), and the widgets aren't updating correctly... I'm just as eager as you guys are, but remember to try and be patient. I'm sure when he gets time, he'll update us all...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] USA-RedDragon:
Not on stock. On AOSP I can do what I want but not in a 3rd party context. It wouldn't be hard to do it.

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------

Correct, I do have a lot of stuff going on in real life. Haven't touched the computer in a week. I have 3 suggestions to try for second screen reboot fix, and if they don't work, I'll push code out in its existing state and whoever fixed the AppWidgetHost can have 1/4 of the bounty, because this is something that isn't well documented and I have ZERO experience in AppWidgets.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Yeah, I should've mentioned; it's a limitation of RemoteViews. Only classes with the [MENTION=338982]remote[/MENTION]View annotation are allowed to be displayed. Anything without that (ie WebView, which would be needed to display a GIF) will simply not load.

Jacob, you could actually edit the WebView class in your ROM to include the annotation. That should allow it to work, which also opens it to third party development.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] USA-RedDragon:
It *may* but there could be a reason it's not already. My guess is contexts since I think webview has to talk to hosting class more than a TextView or such
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I think they disabled WebView because of how laggy it can get.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
Assalam o alaikum

Second screen api for AOSP is released or not?

Thanks In advance
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] OneDon:
No
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] DarkestSpawn:
I was hoping no one would answer him since he's now asked multiple times in this thread as well as other threads. He has been told "No, Not yet, Don't ask for ETAs, the whole nine yards" Yet it appears he never gets the answer he is looking for which is yes.

Max, it will be out when it's out. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zach, Don, Dragon, Tiddle, and many other XDA-Community Contributors, I've hit the thanks button where I remember to, contributed when I can for you to buy what ever you need to survive, but I just wanted to say thanks again for all that you do and hope that your hard work pays off in the end.

*Edited spelling
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
I appreciate the work of respected devs

But the reason to ask multiple times, It's very hard to wait :( seriously
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lucfig:
Probably it is harder to develop. :p
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
Yup may b harder but definitely not impossible.

I know they've the potential to Be successful ;)

In sha Allah
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] fenrir_ac:
If you really appreciate someone's work, do you even know asking multiple times without searching the thread, asking ETA, are being disrespectful in XDA? I've seen a lot of cases here when Dev give up to release mod just because people like you who don't even know rules here.

Do you even know that using languages other than english and being religious here violate xda rules? Assalamulaikum, inshaAllah whatever it is, keep it to yourself please! Rules are rules! Go read the rules! Your disrespectful behaviour here is an embarrassment to Muslim community for goodness sake!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I'm pretty sure that guy is just another troll. Maybe this thread should be locked till there are updates? Just a suggestion.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] fenrir_ac:
Personally I find this thread is a great place for devs like zachareel and Usa-reddragon to communicate/exchange ideas like most of us would like to see.

For that matter, let's just let the dev decide. He knows it best.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mmmmmmmma:
From the looks of his profile pic of where he's from, 'assalamualaikum' and 'insha Allah' are used the way we use 'hello' and 'hopefully'. Although, I don't think he's trying to impose his religious beliefs here, I agree with the 'rules are rules' statement. [MENTION=6282117]maxi65[/MENTION], please do not ask for ETAs or updates and refrain from using non-English words and phrases.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] maxi65:
Listen up man Do you know the Meaning of Assalam o alaikum and in sha Allah?

Assalam o alaikum is the substitute of Hello Hi hey so i think there is nothing wrong with this okay? And Second thing

There is something wrong with my Browser whenever i go to next or previous page it says website can't be reached thats why i ask for progress.

So I'm not supposed to create offense here And you donot argue about islam and Muslim community again.

And lets talk about the rules Okay I'll not ask for ETA and I'll not use non English phrases (y)

Thanks
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] uppon2:
Stay on topic. Discuss your beliefs and opinions in private messaging. This must stop now else you are all going to discourage development and or supporters/contributors of this project as we don't really care about what you have to say outside of that. This is the second time this has happened and infractions will accumulate on repeat offenders. Heed this warning
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Yeah, what they said... 'Merica. Lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] sjavvaji:
Is the development focused toward Nougat or Oreo at the moment? I think it was hinted at but I didn't see a clear answer. Thanks for all your hard work!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
Fingers crossed for Oreo
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] almony8:
I have my fingers crossed that it is still being worked on, I'm sure it is but we haven't heard anything from the developers in a little while. I'm in no hurry and don't care if it's for nougat or oreo or even both as long as it is still coming
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] patterson??:
Anyone know if there is still development on this for sure? Been quite a while since any new talk about progress. I'm on verge of just going stock and waiting till I can get a new device. Any any info would be much appreciated. Def not asking for ETA or anything like that just what's been going on with it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
Last time I talked to USA_RedDragon, he was dealing with this crazy thing called life. When he has the time, he does work on second screen.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] SREEPRAJAY:
Members,

Please stick to the topic.

there are FORUM rules and there is no reason why we need to reopen after someone is accepted to get back to basics and rules.

If you need to discuss, please do it in private messaging and spare the others who are on topic.

RELIGIOUS opinions or conflicts or discussions are a STRICT NO here.

Thanks for your understanding
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhujhu:
Perhaps I've missed something, but is there a link to any current code progress so others can take a crack at it? I'd like to see what people have been able to come up with so far.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Grillac:
What I found via a quick Google search.

You can perform a quick Google search and come across zacharee's GitHub repo for SSWidgets, which is the best I could find. Check it out.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] slaya811:
Very eager to try this. Ill donate $20
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
I think they moved on like a lot of ppl to the note 8
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I hope not as a lot of people donated. I'd like a V30/Note 8 myself but if ant afford it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
I think all V20 stuff is dead except LOS
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Who knows. Maybe the fact that the lg v20 is the last on the v series with removable battery, devs will come back since the v20 is lowering prices.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] patterson??:
I respect the guys that said fair well to the v20 formally so we all knew they left but some guys just abandoned with no word...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Yeah, I think some of the guys who said they were having personal life problems were probably not being truthful and just moved onto the S8/Note 8 which they have a hard on for. I would too if I had the money. But I'm sticking with this phone for at least another year or two. I'm not rich like most here.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
I withdrew my donation
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stonkers:
Sorry but i need to withdraw my donation. A lot of things have changed for the worse and i simply cant afford it. I also cracked the screen pretty bad and im not getting it fixed. There is a big chunk out of the second screen.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I guess this has been a lost cause. I've been trying to wing myself off the second screen for when I get another phone in the future that doesn't have it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Black6spdZ:
I wouldn't mind if the second screen just flashed.. we need some way of message notification since there's not even an led indicator on these phones.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] exadeci:
Try this https://xdaforums.com/v20/themes/2nd-screen-flash-text-message-tasker-t3490220
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I think they mean on AOSP.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
The LG V30 floating bar is an app now on the PlayStore not sure if that would help or not I don't think it has aod features.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
It's just an overlay. Not hard to make, and it's not an AppWidget host.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Is this project dead?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I don't know.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
Practically all of V20 is dead. Sorry to inform. Just little things here and there but yeah. It is. Devs have moved on and V20 for the most part abandoned.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Seems that way. Hopefully people who donated got their money back. Glad I didn't donate.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
No one donated; only pledges were made.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
My bad I was under the impression that people donated.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
If they did, it wasn't to me or dragon.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
Yep ill be going Note 8 soon as it gets root.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Addiso:
Already rooted with samfail.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thiswasnttaken:
If it is dead, i hope he will at least release source so others might be able to complete it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
It's dead because I can't get in contact with the dev. I have no idea where he is.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ttabbal:
That's unfortunate. If there is source available, I'd be willing to look at it and try to complete it. I might give a scratch implementation a go, but I can't promise anything there. I've only just started to research the issues around it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Well the project was/is basically done. There's just some problem with the AppWidgetHost that causes other hosts (like launchers) and itself to break on reboot, where they can't find the widgets anymore. That and some polishing are the only things that need to be done. But the dev has disappeared and taken the source with him.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryuk359:
He disappeared for months after he dropped his first kernel. Came back a short while and dropped out again. I know you were working on this too, I hate to see you got cut out. Hopefully it works out for everyone. Thanks for the work either way.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I wasn't cut out, and I wasn't doing much more than offering suggestions and doing some troubleshooting. I never had access to the full source because it was never uploaded.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
Do you have his source by chance. Would be great if it were shared. I've very much still working on the v20. I have BrokenOs 7.1.2 running perfectly on it and am working on bringing up Broken to Oreo... Once I get that done, I'd very much like to take a shot at this secondscreen stuff and get it launched...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Read my last sentence.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
Why haven't you released BrokenOs ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Smittiegee19:
Would love me some of that Broken, miss it from my G3 days.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
He's bringing it up to Oreo as he stated in the post.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
Ooops... Kinda missed that...

BrokenOs is not welcomed in XDA Developers, due to some old drama between old team members and XDA moderators. Not going to go into detail, but even though resolves were reached, some those ex team members couldn't uphold to the treaty. Not that I'm bashing anyone...

You are more than welcome to sync source and run personal builds, n7.1.2 will probably not be released anywhere. But I may start releases after I get O up and running. However, I'm the only developer left so it might be a while...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ttabbal:
I've been thinking about this and would like to give it a go. It's annoying that the existing source isn't available, but whatever. I'm wondering if you have any logs/threads whatever of discussions about second screen support? I have looked over the kernel mods to disable it in LOS and I think I can work with it at that level. Or at least convince Android not to draw there but leave the kernel talking to it. It will take me some time to get a build env ready and such. repo sync alone takes a while.

I don't care about bounties etc.. If people want to buy me a beer should I make it work, great, do so after the fact. Code will be on github, synced with any binaries and, more importantly, any screenshots etc.. No teasing without code. Anything I do will be on Nougat until it works or Oreo builds are good as daily drivers. If someone else wants to port it to Oreo before that, they are welcome to. License will be Apache or similar, likely just matching any code I have to patch. Kernel has to be GPL2, for example.

If it's as close as it seemed to be, and the original dev agrees to release code, I would encourage those who pledged to donate to them. Even a 80% implementation is a big deal. Then other devs like myself can work on finishing it up. I'll even add a $20 myself for code I can build and get the results in the screenshots. Ideally with a full git change history.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Well the dev is ignoring me except to complain about me reporting his Substratum mod that fakes official Samsung support without buying the plugin. So needless to say, you're gonna have to start from scratch. I do have code snippets somewhere but I'm not going to release them without his permission.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ttabbal:
Sure, that's as it should be. I don't know how useful it would be without context anyway. I'd be more interested in discussions about how it works, stock or AOSP. I know it's 160 lines, though short lines, and that it's part of the same panel. And code to disable them in the kernel is available. If that's where I start, then so be it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] patterson??:
I am very excited someone is willing to try to accomplish this at this point. Its very crazy to me how it was so close then people just disappeared like a fart in the wind..some of us were eagerly waiting for desolation update...that obviously will never come. Anyway moral of story thank you so much for your effort to make our devices more complete . Plenty of very appreciative people I'm sure!!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] awidawad:
I've been rather disappointed with the amount dev support with this phone. This is an awesome, very capable phone...but I commend the devs that do support it and haven't ran off. I've been out of the scene for a couple years now, but I've been building my own LOS builds since they started so I can add my own features for personal builds... If you know what you're doing and have a good starting point, I'm willing to build&test for you. I can try to contribute, but my free time is pretty limited. Anywho, I can build fresh builds of LOS in roughly 15 min and upload them even faster. Feel free to PM me if interested. :good:

Would really like to see that second screen light up in LOS because it's my daily :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
To be fair, most devs left because of hard bricks, calling issues, overheating, screenburn, and other hardware issues.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] awidawad:
True. Stubborn little thing she is. Although I've never really ran into any major issues besides the overheating. I think my old LCD had a smidge of burn in around the battery indicator. However, my Nexus 5 had a plethora of HW issues, SoC throttling, battery drain, cell signal.... whatnot and it is still widely supported...even running Oreo.

EDIT: Although recently I've been finding myself tinkering with the MISC partition each time I update...but that probably isn't hardware related... ;)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Nexus 5 is LG too. Dunno why Google keeps going to them...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I don't know if this helps, but if you use Nova launcher on stock, go into look and feel, turn off notification bar. It pushes notifications into the second screen. You can't swipe the second screen around.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rholm:
I like this. Is there a way to make it stay? Mine blanks out after a few seconds.

Cheers,

Rich
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] thomas.raines:
What rom & kernel is this working on?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Did you not read? I ask since you did quote me.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lowridincrew,:
It's crazy. This went from 2nd screen break through to zero % activity.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Usually how things go. Most likely the developer jumped ship to the Note 8 or V30 like most seem to have done. I plan to jump ship myself in the next several months.