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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mikaole:
Is there no way to change the boot slot? Old system is still on the now not active bootslot.

So my question is there a way to change the bootslot without twrp.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] BDogg718:
There is. "fastboot --set-active=_a" (or _b). Here is a list of all known fastboot commands. https://xdaforums.com/pixel-xl/how-to/pixel-xl-fastboot-commands-t3490080
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] imnuts:
Isn't the old system partition updated in the background then after the update is complete? Even if it isn't, the radio and bootloader are still updated.

Sent from my Pixel XL
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] superchilpil:
Nope, they aren't updated until a new update comes. Also there are two slots for radio and bootloader just like everything else so in theory if he could use fastboot he could switch boot slots.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Unfortunately this won't help. If he installed the update his bootloader is now locked and there is no way to unlock it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] BDogg718:
I sry to say..but I completely agree. If your on 7.1.1 and still locked your stuck locked.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mwalt201:
Pop the sim card, push it back in, wait 4 seconds, turn on hotspot.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Virus1x:
No there is a way past this it happened to me, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] knows the command you need to get by this.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SomeFknGuy:
actually been doing just this. just a little bit of a pain to do with the cover that I'm running. worth it though, until verizon figures out a fix for that :|
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] netjack:
Has anyone been able to install Xposed Additions succesfully on OP3T? I downgraded to MM to be able to use Xposed. Then when I reboot after installing Xposed additions, the phone just hangs at boot.

Anyone else?
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] 954wrecker:
Xposed and xposed additions have worked for me on this phone perfectly for 2 months now
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] 954wrecker:
I use it everyday for every button and it works perfect now for over 3 years.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] ashokmor007:
R u using on nougat?
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] luusid:
He can't be. xposed isn't available on nougat. Further, if you look at his screenshots it says he's on marshmallow.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] uttam.ace:
How did you have downgraded?I am on 4.0.2 want to revert in MM.Thanks
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] netjack:
Pretty simple to flash back to MM. You'll obviously loose everything. Just grab the official OP rom from their website: http://downloads.oneplus.net/devices/oneplus-3t/

I was having terrible battery issues on 4.02 (not so much on 4.01). But I had never tried MM so trying that first.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] netjack:
Just to be clear, I got Xposed on but the Xposed Additions module was hanging my phone. Using V87 seems to have done the trick. I guess V86 was causing Additions to hang the phone. Strange.
[OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers] laggardkernel:
Do you have any problem using xposed additions? I remember the feedback vibration and the double-click camera functions were lost when I was using it on MM.
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
Why is the polaris available in europe, yet no sign of it in the UK?

most annoying
[Touch Cruise General] Rudegar:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159617
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Seconded.

You got me there for a µsecond.

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159608
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
UK Availability ... from the US

It seems that On The Go Solutions are happy to ship to the UK, and they just told me they have a large batch of Cruises that are expected to clear customs tomorrow. I've ordered one - and with Fedex International Express delivery it should, if all goes well, be with me some time next week.

I'll be letting you know whether all goes well.

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
how much of a pain is it to fill out the international order form?

how did you send them the pdf ?
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
Filling in the International Order Form was not especially tedious:

1) Download as PDF.

2) Open the file, Edit->SelectAll, Edit->Copy

3) Open MS Word, Edit->Paste, then tidy up the formatting a bit

4) Paste in images of the various things they wanted images of (passport back page, credit card, signature)

5) Email the document back to them. Had to mess with the image sizes a bit, as their email gateway rejects anything bigger than 3 Mbytes.

All in all, it's probably easier to print the document, fill it in and fax it back to them - but as it happened I did not have a photocopier and a fax conveniently nearby yesterday evening.

I will let you know what happens next (and here's hoping that what happens next is the prompt arrival of a shiny new Cruise!)

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
thanks for the prompt response!
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
On The Go Solutions have just dispatched 'my' Cruise via Fedex to the UK.

Usual next step should be that I get a call from the local FedEx office at UK customs, asking for a duty/VAT payment (which can be paid by credit/debit card over the phone).

I've never really understood how they figure out the duty - it seems to depend on whether they decide the goods are stationery, electric equipment, computers, agricultural machinery, ... . Personally I think the Cruise is lovely enough to qualify as a 'work of art', but I don't suppose the Customs people will agree. Anyhow, I expect to end up having to pay about 20% (17.5% VAT and 2.5% duty).

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
Delivered (from On The Go) today

It has arrived - so I can confirm that getting On The Go to ship to the UK seems to work just fine.

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Nice. So all n all how much was it? did you get a call from customs or..?

cheers.
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
i see onthego have bumped the price up now :(

At $879 i dont think its worth it
[Touch Cruise General] butzchan:
I think that the price was $749 or $769 just a few days ago. :eek:
[Touch Cruise General] tomres:
Hi everyone and happy new year!

I think we just have to be patient. As everybody on this forum, I cannot wait to get this baby, but I will hold fire for another 3-4 weeks.

I contacted O2 and Orange regarding availability. Orange are looking early Feb, but will have more info next week. O2 will have stock middle of Jan, so if you're not desperate, the future is orange... or blue... or even purple? :)

Cheers
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
The networks are, probably, delaying its release which is annoying for me.
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Wow I cant believe that onthegosolutions would do that but it is true. Talk about price gauging. There is no way people are going to pay nearly $900 dollars when you can just wait two or three weeks and get it for under $700.
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
Happy to say, I placed my order when On The Go were still showing $749 on their web-site, and they have hono

red that price. $879 does look pretty steep! Oh the joys of capitalism :) !

Anyhow, the whole process of getting the thing into the UK went pretty smoothly (note: it's a good idea to phone FedEx once they've collected the package, and make sure they have a contact phone number. If they don't have a number to call you on, then the package will just sit waiting in customs until you call them).

The Cruise they sent me has a silver fascia/button panel. It looks pretty smart.

I have just been trying out HSDPA connectivity, and got 382 kbit/sec (on T-Mobile, in central London). The combination of Google Maps and in-built GPS is also good (particularly if your sense of direction is as poor as mine!).

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
Has anyone spoken to T-Mobile? I know they re-branded the HTC 3300 so maybe the Polaris is one they'll pick up too. I just also looked at their UK web site and under the "Coming Soon" section it mentions: "T-Mobile Touch Plus - This great touch-screen phone allows for intuitive browsing through messages, emails and music. - Expected January - on: Pay monthly". No picture so difficult to tell if it is the Touch Cruise although it sounds like it could well be.

I also noticed a few sites (e.g. expansys) now quoting Jan 18 as the availability date for the generic HTC unit so I'm hoping that I'll be able to have one in my hands within 3 weeks although if T-Mobile are also releasing it in January then I might do some arithmetic and see if I want to upgrade to a monthly contract and get the phone that way.

T-Mobile did cripple the 3300 didn't they by disabling WiFi on the UK model? Let's hope they're not stupid enough to do that again if they are picking up the Polaris.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] Jim Chapman:
T-Mobile Touch Plus

I spoke a little while ago to a guy in the T-Mobile shop in Oxford Street (London), who generally knows what's what with the T-Mobile range. He told me that the T-Mobile MDA Touch Plus is the HTC Touch Dual. He wasn't aware of any near-term plan to provide the Cruise as a T-Mobile branded handset.

So at that point I opted to take the cash alternative rather than a 'free' handset - and spent the cash on buying the phone of my dreams :) .

Jim
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Touch Cruise availabe next week.

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3771.html
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
I have Firefox tabs permanently open on most of the UK supplier's Touch Cruise (TC) pages and I refresh them occassionally. I just saw that Expansys and PowerUpMobile changed their stock-due dates from 18th Jan to 21st Jan.

It's also interesting because, for anyone who doesn't know, there's another thread running here (entitled "Angry against HTC") that is reporting a delay until week 9 on HTC TC shipments. I assume that Expansys and PowerUpMobile changed their stock-due dates because of updated info from HTC (why else would they change the dates?) so it's interesting that they only did a 3 day slip and not all the way back to week 9.

I'm not sure what all this means but I just thought I'd report it.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Julian,

Thats a good sign that it only got pushed back one business day. January is looking pretty solid as far as dates.
[Touch Cruise General] Aeneas:
sorry to say i'm pretty sure the htc touch dual, and not the polaris (touch cruise) is the t-mobile touch plus.the picture on the t-mobile website gives it away.

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/coming-soon/
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
I you have noticed, 18th of January 2008 is Friday and that's when the stocks are expected to arrive. They can only start delivering orders on the 21st which is monday. Make sense to me.:D
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Exactly:) Have faith.
[Touch Cruise General] nc35:
Think Stocks are coming on the 14th Monday

Hi All

I think stocks are coming to the distributors on Monday 14th...

May be a few days before they send to the online shops etc

But can't wait till 15th/16th :)
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Supposidly HTC has started or will be next week shipping devices to major distribution channels. I am keeping fingers crossed for delivery before Feb 1.
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
Confirmed over the phone 0845 2222 786. :)

Stocks will be released tomorrow from Customs and pre-order dispatch will commence on Friday, 11th of January 2008. Cheers guys! The wait is now over.

http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touc...se-p30853.html

but, wait!

What's this?

and this,

Now, i'm having second thoughts.:rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] RaptorRVL:
Will probably take some time before those devices arrive. And well.. it's the downside of the technology market, it feels like everytime you buy something it's already old and obsolete :D. There is always something better just waiting around the corner! :D
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
Not quite long, I guess. The first one is slated to be released by February this year and the second one is between Q2 and Q3 this year(I hope) so, hanging on a minute longer wouldn't really hurt that much. Ain't it? :)
[Touch Cruise General] RaptorRVL:
Well as far for the Meizu, they had no working prototype for CES (read here: http://www.meizume.com/meizu-news/4893-meizu-ces-2008-no-working-m8-prototype.html).

And will probably show a prototype in march at CeBIT. So you can forget february for sure and will probably take quite longer than march as well.

Not much is known about the android as well. Q2 or Q3? And they are working with HTC right? Q1 or Q2 in 2009 then lol :D
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
This is a working meizu (Japanese Version). What jack hasn't told you is that he's talking about the universal(English) Version whose patent application is still under court procedures.

Still in doubt?:rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Spoke to Expansys earlier and the guy only had the same time frame 18/21 Jan and that they are expecting 1400 of them!
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
Confirmed over the phone 0845 2222 786. :)

Stocks will be released tomorrow from Customs and pre-order dispatch will commence on Friday, 11th of January 2008. Cheers guys! The wait is now over.

http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touc...se-p30853.html

It's earlier and even cheaper than expansys
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
I would've thought Expansys would get it pronto also. Anyway, we'll see in the next few days.
[Touch Cruise General] karlth:
Expansys has gone from the 18th -> 21. -> 22. and now estimated in 10 days. I doubt the product has cleared customs yet.

I've placed an order but If there is another delay I'll probably cancel. :o
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
Does anyone know any details of the HTC UK distribution model? I think I've guessed it from my conversation earlier this week with someone at in2mobiles.co.uk but if anyone can confirm, deny or add extra detail then I'd be interested.

I called in2mobiles.co.uk (and posted my findings earlier in this thread) primarily to ask about whether the devices they supply are directly from HTC and, in particular, whether their devices come with the full HTC UK 2-year warranty (they do). I rather warmed to the person I was talking to because, rather than just give me the easy answer ("yes") she actually told me the correct answer which is that they don't buy directly from HTC, they get their stock from one of the two authorised UK master distributors who are responsible for all official HTC imports into the country. I had already referenced devicewire.co.uk in my conversation because they do a good job of explicitly mentioning the 2-year guarantee on the product description and the woman at in2mobiles told me that Devicewire get their stock from the same disti as in2mobiles do.

So I think the distribution model in the UK is that there are two master distributors and the web retailers like expansys, devicewire, clove, in2mobiles etc get their stock from one or both of these master distis. What this might well mean in practice is that, once the units clear customs, they might first go to the master distis before then being shipped on to the retail channels so there will be few days delay before the web resellers are actually fulfilling orders.

If anyone knows the names of the master distis then I'd be interested just out of curiosity.

By the way, this is an area I know quite a lot about. I've worked for various IT supplier companies responsible for product sales and/or marketing and have dealt in depth with one, two, and sometimes even three tier distribution channels for about 12 years.

- Julian

P.S. I suspect the above is all only HTC own-unit sales. Re-branded units (e.g. the O2 XDA Orbit 2) may well be single tier direct from HTC to O2.
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
Just had a chat with in2mobiles, they wont be getting stock now until at least next friday (18th).

Why's the UK so messed up, and everywhere else fully stocked?
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
Yeah, it's frustrating, but personally I suspect that the 18th-21st Jan figure, which quite a few of the sites have been quoting for a couple of weeks now, is the reliable one and the rumours of Jan 11th-14th were maybe optimistic. The trouble is that we have different people here calling different resellers and then probably talking to different people at those resellers so there is huge opportunity for information given to us to just be plain wrong in some cases.

I suspect by now that if we could find a totally reliable source (i.e. someone who isn't going to potentially tell a customer what they want to hear to get a pre-order on their site; I'm not saying that is what is happening when resellers quote earlier dates but the cynical side of me at least acknowledges that this could be a motive for exagerating a few days as to stock availability) then, if the Jan 18 date is correct, it should really be pretty solid now because I assume these things are in cargo containers from the far east and so will literally be on a ship en-route right now. Weather can change things by a few days I suppose but I don't see what other variables there are at this point. Certainly manufacturing issues aren't in the equation because units expected Jan 18-22 have certainly cleared the production line and testing by now.

My big fear was that the first batch coming into the UK would be insufficient to meet demand; it still might be but the report of 1400 for Expansys is encouraging.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
Expansys is our best shot for before Feb 1 delivery date of UK TC. I speak to them everyday and they can not guaruntee anything but no delays have been reported.
[Touch Cruise General] karlth:
Considering that Expansys have delayed the product 4 times since their first estimate I wouldn't bet on it. :)

Anyways still hoping, 9 days til shipping now being reported.
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
You can't blame them for that though. All other UK retailers were the same.
[Touch Cruise General] karlth:
I'm not blaming them, just saying that the estimates haven't been accurate.
[Touch Cruise General] karlth:
Well Expansys have pushed back their estimate, for the 5th time. Is it a new record?

So now they are expecting stock on the 30th of January. The odds of that actually happening are probably hovering around 10%.
[Touch Cruise General] dr_s:
:mad: Expansys now showing expected 9th FEB .......:mad::mad::mad:

Unblievable !!! I don't think we are going to get TC in UK.
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
im beginning to think its a conspiracy
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Gutted

:mad:
[Touch Cruise General] Top Mario:
If the delay is because they are modifying or making better (software issues) then let it be late. Because some places (countries) already have it, then, what is the problem?
[Touch Cruise General] turcomora:
I have finally decided to bite the bullet and order from onthegosolutions.com instead of expansys. I guess it is worth paying $100+ bucks more and get the device next week. Confirmed second batch of TC's en route and expected to start shipping on Monday 21.They do ship to the UK if anyone is interested.
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
I just spoke to Expansys (I needed to call them about another item I'm waiting for). I asked about the Touch Cruise delays. For what it's worth, the guy told me that the issue was that HTC were having trouble manufacturing in sufficient volume to meet demand and that they were delaying the ship date until they had sufficient volume to fulfill all orders. He didn't say anything about any product issues.

Personally I find the insufficent number of units scenario a bit unlikely, if they have some manufactured units available then surely their finance people will be telling them that it's better to sell what they have and deliver more when possible rather than sit on unsold inventory.

I suppose one possibility is that limited stock will start trickling through next week but that Expansys already have more pre-orders than they can fulfill with the first batch of stock so they've updated the site to give people placing a new order a more realistic expectation of delivery but, if this was the case, then surely the guy would have told me this because it's a more positive message, at least to my ears.

Anyway, I suspect most of the above is worthless (especially my speculation) but, in the spirit of community, I thought I might as well post it.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] rhov23:
In Norway we got the TC yesterday in some stores, and the rest will be in stores 21/1. Strange that this isn't the case in the rest of europe.
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
I went into Inkino (a store in London's Tottenham Court Road) yesterday where they had a Touch Cruise to play with. As of 18:00 yesterday when I talked to them they were still expecting a small number of units to arrive on Saturday (19 Jan).

One thing that might explain some of the confusion regarding some sites showing stock on 18th (Friday) and some showing 21st (Monday) is that apparently these first using are coming in by plane and the Friday date is the day the plane itself actually lands so for most of the big internet players they still need the couriers to get them from Heathrow to their warehouse hence I believe that, for those resellers that are getting some of the first allocation, 21st is probably a more realistic date.

This does make me think that, assuming what Inkino people told me is accurate, then maybe what the Expansys guy told me yesterday on the phone is also correct and the evidence does seem to be mounting that some UK units are landing at Heathrow tomorrow (Friday) but in very limited quantities, possibly in Expansys's case only enough to fulfill some of their pre-order list so, if they have a backlog already hat they know they can't fulfill with the initial delivery, they set the availability date back to when they expect the next batch to come in.

It's mostly guess work but I've built a story that to me makes sense and explains everything we've been hearing and seeing regarding delivery.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] karlth:
Thanks for the info.
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
Two updates (one good, one bad) from my refresh of the 6 Firefox tabs I have permanently open to various UK reseller's Touch Cruise pages:

1) www.powerupmobile.com have slipped their date from 21 Jan back to 7 Feb (bad!). This is now, at least at the time of writing this, consistent with the availability date on the often-changing Expansys page.

2) www.clove.co.uk have updated their availability estimate from "Stock expected in January" to "First stock due next week". This sounds more specific so I assume they heard some news from HTC that they are at least getting some of the first batch due to touch down in Heathrow tomorrow (Friday). I take this as good news as possibly more confirmation that a plane really is landing tomorrow with at least some units.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] JulianL:
You're welcome! I'm glad at least some people are finding it useful.

I'm hurting so badly from not having any smartphone and the Inkino people seemed pretty genuine and clued up when I visited yesterday, so I couldn't stand it anymore and put a deposit down to get myself on their preorder list. If all goes to plan then I hope to be jumping on a tube on Saturday morning to go and pick up my device.

I'll post a status update, which I hope will be an "I got it" message, on Saturday.

- Julian
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Cheers for the info Julian. I was going to pop in on Saturday but I'll wait for your response if you are going anyway.
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Available in UK

http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Cruise

I better cancel my other order quick.

GO!
[Touch Cruise General] bencassie:
whoop whoop!

order placed!
[Touch Cruise General] Abbsta:
Order placed. Roll on Friday!!
[Touch Cruise General] tomres:
TC is in stock ! Confirmed by phone to devicewire just now !!! Better be quick :):):)
[Touch Cruise General] martint235:
Yep Devicewire currently have 173 in stock! One of which is mine as I ordered in October! Yippee finally!:):D