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[Fire General] Mr McBoatface:
The newer kingroot can be very deceptive. The % index can shoot up 100% then drop to 90% and it looks like you have root. In fact it's a "Security Index" check or "optimization check" ...... Cough cough..... BS

It then offers the installation of other tools such as purify . It can be easily confused as being rooted . Especially if you are use to the 4.92 version in supertool .... Its bordering on malware
[Fire General] Mr McBoatface:
Not sure we'll see root on this for OS or the newer one for a while yet. The last few kingroots haven't offered anything new and while there has been some change in cloud strategy that's changed the process behavior it's no closer to root.
[Fire General] the_mook:
Understand what you are thinking, it was definitely kingroot reporting (unless it is complete malware) that it was rooted and I installed supersu straight after with no problem.
[Fire General] DB126:
Did you install SuperSU directly or with assistance of the SuperTool? Typically KingRoot blocks the installation of SuperSU through various means. If SuperSU went right in then KingRoot may not have completed its run normally.
[Fire General] Jake1702_:
I have an idea!

Let's ask them nicely to unlock the bootloader!

But in all seriousness, they should provide some way to do that for developers.
[Fire General] DB126:
From Amazon's perspective there are few advantages and numerous disadvantages to granting root and/or unlocking the bootloader for any community other than those under NDA. Their business model and hardware price points depend on a closed ecosystem that favors Amazon content and services. Opening the door let's more out than in.
[Fire General] Jake1702_:
So basically after getting money from someone who purchased a device, getting even more money is the idea? Well, so is business I guess. A lot of companies are that way, the world isn't going to change from that any time soon.

But my opinion is, we bought it, it's now our property, not Amazon's. We have the right to customize something we OWN the way we want to, if we want to.
[Fire General] DB126:
Sure - that's your opinion and (obviously) entitled to it. Unfortunately, it is not the Amazon's view (nor Apple, John Deere, automakers [specifically on-board electronics], mobile phone manufactures, etc.) all of which have survived numerous legal challenges. If the courts ever sided with consumers on this one my guess is the 'value' device landscape would quickly change. Perhaps a chapter yet to be written.
[Fire General] Jake1702_:
At least there are a few companies who aren't this way. Sure, it's a small number, but it feels good to know that at least not EVERYTHING is bad.

On another note, has anybody else gotten the update? I had to do a factory reset today and decided to check, but nope, nothing is there.
[Fire General] DB126:
- update will arrive when Amazon queues it for your device; factory resets and other measures will not accelerate the distribution schedule

- https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/fire-os-5-3-3-0-t3577049
[Fire General] Jake1702_:
I know, I was resetting it because it was slow anyway, so I thought maybe as I was resetting it the update may have happened come in.
[Fire General] SetTheCat:
Sure, it's our property, we can do with it what we like, and if we find a way to gain root then there's nothing Amazon can do to stop us other than void our warranties. On the other hand, we knew when we purchased these tablets that they were subsidized devices that came with a proprietary OS specifically designed by Amazon to sell additional products. The best product to compare these tablets to is Amazon's Dash Button.

The Dash Button is $5 and you get a $5 credit the first time you use it. They're basically free. The problem is that the Dash Button is subsidized (tied to specific UPCs), so even if you get the button for the product you want (let's say Charmin TP) you might not get the specific type (Ultra Soft vs. Ultra Strong) or quantity (6 pack instead of 9 pack) you want. In most cases, the products available with the dash are also WAY over priced. Now, if you want to setup the Dash Button to order the exact product you're after, you have two options. One, you can hack it and do with it what you want. Two, you can buy the AWS IoT Button, an unlocked version for developers that can be programmed to do anything you could ever want it to do. The problem with the AWS IoT Button is that it's $20 with no credit/refund on use.

An unlocked version of the Fire would have the same issue. Sure, they could sell you an unlocked version of the hardware, but then they would have to factor profit lost from advertising and add on sales into the price of the tablet. If they did that, the price would jump so high so fast that it would be just as cheap if not cheaper to simply go buy a Galaxy tab instead. In that case, it's probably not worth it for Amazon to even be in the hardware business.

Me personally, I'm just blocking OTA updates in whatever way I possibly can and keeping my fingers crossed that a root solution will be found for 5.3.2.1+. Until then I at least have a media player loaded so I can watch MKV files at work discreetly, which is the #1 reason I bought my Fire.
[Fire General] DB126:
Related conversation: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/help/amazon-pay-to-unlock-bootloader-t3580927
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Interesting how so many tie an unlocked bootloader to money or profits gain vs lost. The reality is the amount of funds at their disposal should negate any profits gain vs lost from the fire tablet.

The issue of locked bootloader ties into more of a want of a monopoly system. Its more of a moral issue in unlocking bootloader.

The grand suggestion any company does by unlocking a bootloader is allow individuals and/or groups a chance at creativity.

The world needs more creative minds not monetery minds.

T - few days for tablet replacement

TD378
[Fire General] DB126:
100% behind that. The sad reality is monetary minds will continue to dominate the business landscape for the foreseeable future as there are no meaningful disruptors to change current practice. There are counterculture examples (eg: Gates) but they are few and far between. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Agreed. Yet any reality can be achieved, the issue at hand is to change a reality. Too many accept ways not beneficial in the name of being comfortable.

When the idea of money is truly understand and the value of money is realized, we can begin a realization of a $40 tablet or any other higher price tablets are worth nothing.

In concept the information shared here out values all monetary items. Which in theory is why internet censorship is a hot topic.

Money = Power

Power = Corruption

Corruption demands Respect

Information is Priceless!

TD378
[Fire General] DB126:
Yep - idealism vs reality. I don't see either changing anytime soon.
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Only time will tell of any change.

Anyway back to post discussion. Have a new tablet on its way.

Debating in factory reset right out of box or first start up with wifi disabled to verify os version.

Any thoughts?
[Fire General] DB126:
It's rare to have an update queued on new or refurbished tablets from Amazon so firing up w/o WiFi should be safe. Still, the possibility exists and can only be mitigated with an initial factory reset prior to first boot.
[Fire General] Mr McBoatface:
You might be lucky and get a fire tablet with fire OS 5.0.1 on it...... A number of users on another forum I'm on reported getting them from amazon UK in the most recent sale.

Amazon must have found a dusty box of them somewhere :)
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Will update my results upon receiving it. Regardless of the outcome, will allow os updates in order to attempt/achieve root on latest os version.

TD378
[Fire General] Mr McBoatface:
If you get a 5.0.1 and update it a little part of me will cry ??

Seriously there's enough people testing the newer OS . I've 5 cracked screen tablets 4 on 5.3.2.1 and one on 5.3.3.0 . Testing at least twice a week..... Kingroot, KingOroot, Iroot, android and pc editions.

No need to sacrifice a decent tablet. But your choice ?
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Agreed. Growing-up we all had toys which were broken or a G.I. Joe figure with He-man arms (mod). Think of the tablet as our grow-up toy!

TD378
[Fire General] Mr McBoatface:
New kingroot update released today on XDA , still shows as 5.0.5 .

Root strategy seems different too, however still no root for me
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I did a factory reset yesterday, hoping I would have the earlier OS on my tablet. Unfortunately, 5.3.2.1 was already installed from the factory :( No root for me either. Failed a little over 70%.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I finally couldn't take it anymore and I paid Amazon the $15 dollars to get rid of special offers on the lock screen. This might be a dumb question...but can I disable it now that I won't see it anymore? Or without root, will Amazon just reinstall the apk etc when they get the first chance?
[Fire General] DB126:
What is "it" and/or the APK referenced above?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I am referring to Special Offers. Now that I paid my ransom to Amazon to have it "disabled" (unsubscribed), is there any way to end it's life once and for all without root?
[Fire General] jhedfors:
By "end it's life", do you mean "stop showing special offers"? What directions does Amazon give? If you are stock, and not rooted, whatever Amazon's process is should work, right?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I want to uninstall it por disable it or kill it in some fashion . Just knowing it still exists on my tablet is enough to annoy me. I don't see ads anywhere, even on lock screen. I just want to get rid of the program itself
[Fire General] jhedfors:
I see. Without root, I would not this think it is possible as this (apk or otherwise) would most definitely be in the system partition.

I am curious, what was the process like? Did you have to download something, and apply some update?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Nah. Simply log into your account, click on Accounts and Lists > Manage Your Content and Devices > Your Devices > Click on the '...' to the left of device(s) > Special Offers/Offers and Ads > Unsubscribe.

The process took a minute or less. It was quick enough I didn't notice it and I wasn't notified of when it happened or completed. The response after paying the ransom was pretty much "make sure your device is connected to WiFi for the process to complete."
[Fire General] DB126:
It would be interesting to see if ad content is still downloaded but simply not displayed. You'd probably need to run a controlled/repeatable or side-by-side test while carefully monitoring network activity to determine that. Based on the WiFi prerequisite it would seem the control exists locally vs upstream.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I'm just starting to learn about all this. I understand the concept, but I, at least at the moment, have no idea how to create such a program or task, but I'd love to learn. It would be interesting indeed because we'd be paying a ransom for pretty much nothing if the ads are still there, but replaced/overlaid with their rotating stock screensavers.
[Fire General] DB126:
Guessing that's exactly what happens. Very pragmatic from Amazon's perspective. Download a 'blob' to every registered device on a regular basis; switch simply determines if an ad or screensaver is displayed.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Sucks for not having root. Would probably be able to see which services or overlays, if any, through running processes and or attached folders/apps. No root means I can't even get past the data file :( For Special Offers to keep running in the background (I just force stopped it), another app or apps has to be connected to it or vice versa.
[Fire General] WXSky:
Sorry for my sloth but this thread has gotten looong. Has there been any inroads to reproducing the root of 5.3.2.1?
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
Well untill root is found for the fire, I have Cyanogenmod and Windows 10 dualboot, it comes rooted and everything!
[Fire General] DB126:
Nope.
[Fire General] amnya:
What do you mean? where do you have Cyanogenmod installed? Just got my damn fire HD8 which came preinstalled with 5.3.2.1! Useless device! Have installed nova launcher on it, but i am not able to set it as a default home, nor am i able to remove or prevent any and all kinds of billing means from the device! As i want to give it to the kids!
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
No I meant I installed Cyanogenmod on my PC

go to Android-x86.org to see there ISO downloads and you can use launcher hijack to set the launcher as default but it is very glitchy!
[Fire General] amnya:
Oh, i see. I have configured the launcher using the hijack method, as you said, its not very stable and i don't like the fact that it can see everything typed l, including credit card info.

I only hope there will be a root found for this version. On the other hand, do you know how i can stop the OTA service altogether?

Thanks
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
It can't see anything you type in, it just says this because you are turning on an accessibility service
[Fire General] DB126:
Can't block/disable OTA update service on an unrooted device.
[Fire General] toplist:
Windows 10 on Fire? How did you do it? Can you tell me about the guide/thread you used?
[Fire General] DB126:
https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/5-3-2-1-root-t3547136/post71728629
[Fire General] jextrevor:
I saw this and got excited but realized it was just an earlier post ?
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
I didn't install Windows 10 on my fire...on my computer...just saying...If you don't have any other device than a fire you can install Android-x86 on your computer...
[Fire General] Rbohannon89:
Please help this noob out! I trying to root my fire tablet & make it stock Android.

I am very new to this. All I want to do is get stock Android on my fire tablet gen 5. I also want to update it to Android 7.0 if possible. Also want TWRP Recovery. And if possible the ability to overclock my cpu and gpu.

As I said I'm very green so any help I can obtain would greatly appreciate it. I would need a walk through in very easy instructions. Cheer!
[Fire General] ctodd111:
This is what we all want - but if your gen 5 is running fire os 5.3.2.1 or higher, you're out of luck - for now.:crying:
[Fire General] Rbohannon89:
Really? Can't get any form of Stock Android on here.

Bloody hell your telling me it's impossible to downgrade the awful Amazon Fire OS? So it's not possible to get Stock Android of and kind on it? Like I be happy just to be able to run Android apps. Like an emulator till some one finds away to fully hack this jalopy.

---------- Post added at 09:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 PM ----------

Then what's the point in rooting it? I found that on here.
[Fire General] ctodd111:
There is still a lot you can do without root. Install Google Play store, Launcher Hijack 2, Nova launcher (or launcher of your choice), and block lock screen ads. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing while we wait for root - which will hopefully happen at some point. All the instructions can be found if you go back one level to Fire General. I'm no expert, but it is not that noticeable that my 5th gen has Fire OS under the hood.
[Fire General] Rbohannon89:
Launchers what are they why do you need them?

Launcher Hijack 2, Nova launcher (or launcher of your choice), and block lock screen ads. What is a luncher highjavk or Nova Launcher what exactly do they do?
[Fire General] DB126:
If you recently purchase the device from Amazon contact customer support for a refund. Usually no questions asked in the first 30 days.
[Fire General] Rbohannon89:
Yah it's been scene last black Friday lol.
[Fire General] jla59:
You can block OTA using NetGuard. After installed, find Forced OTA and DeviceSoftwareOTA in the app list and click the WiFi logo to block. I'm on 5.3.2.1 and System Updates has not successfully connected since Mar 27th.
[Fire General] DB126:
DeviceSoftwareOTA is the module to block in FireOS v4; based on this post it also seems to be used by v5. While software firewalls offer some protection from OTAs one must be diligent around configuration and insuring no 'leaks' if the firewall fails (ie: is force stopped by Android) on an unrooted device. A VPN based firewall will usually sever all network communication if it goes down making the failure immediately evident. See here for related discussion.

Background: On rooted devices renaming DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk is the 'goto' method for blocking OTAs on FireOS v4. Don't disable/rename anything else with a similar ID as FireOS may fail to boot. Easy fix on this device; simply reload FireOS from stock recovery. On earlier Amazon devices (notably 3rd gen HDX) a FireOS failure was fatal as there was no way to restore stock unless the bootloader was unlocked.
[Fire General] trhcowboy:
try KingRoot 5.0.6 from APKMirror.com, i was on 5.3.1.0 and it was successful.... After i downloaded it i just -old'ed the KingRoot.apk in the SuperTool, and renamed the one that I downloaded as KingRoot.apk, and used SuperTool to install it for me and run the scripts.
[Fire General] DB126:
All versions of KingRoot rely on a cloud database for rooting instructions. It is unclear what impact, if any, the local app has on rooting success. Version 5.x does include additional cruft that complicates the removal of KingUser which is a prerequisite to the installation of FlashFire and custom ROMs.
[Fire General] der-mali:
Hello,

this week my Fire tablet updated itself automatically to Version 5.3.3.0.

I tried to root it with King Root 5.0.6 but it was not successful.

My location is Germany, don't know how updates are available in other countries.
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
WHAT??? MINE JUST updated to 5.3.3.0 and WHAT??? I WASN'T NOTIFIED in ANY way! The tablet is being really slow now tho!!
[Fire General] der-mali:
Why are you so shocked?
[Fire General] DB126:
Lol - believe you are entitled to a notification? Ha! Welcome to Amazon's vast ecosystem which extends into every corner of your digital life (if you allow it). Google and Apple are no better. Not to mention ISPs - at least in the States.
[Fire General] Ayden7777:
Ha!
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Had some time to try new fire tablet...

1. Opened box

2. Plugged in device to wall charger

3. Waited for full charge

4. Unplugged from wall charger

5. Booted into recovery (vol down + power)

6. Formated cache

7. Did factory reset

8. Selected "Powered off" option

9. Pressed power button

10. Started normal boot for the first time

11. Skipped registration

12. Turned on Airplane Mode

13. Checked OS version

Result: OS version is 5.3.1.0

Undecided whether to keep version or update.

TD378
[Fire General] ctodd111:
If I bought a used Fire 7 from Amazon, what are the chances I would get one with 5.3.1.0?
[Fire General] TechDad378:
Its just a chance you have to take. There is truely no way to determine what os version you will get since there are so many fire tablets in the wild.

Seems to me the only thing stopping you from taking a chance is fear.

Just remember "fear" is caused by lack of information. (Unknown OS version)

Chances are taken by accepting any outcome!

TD378
[Nextbit Robin] noonebhargav:
Can anyone build AOSPExtended for Robin(ether) .(Using it in oneplus x,its really awesome)
[Android General] rejul:
ExceptionOS v0.4 [5.0.2](kernel 3.10+) by losev.88

Rom Features:

No bugs

Screenshots

Download Rom:Here

patches:

Camera fix

StatusBar.zip (Cm style )
[Android] imdanix007:
Thanks for Awesome Work

Thanks for awesome work.
[P3600 ROM Development] hamleto:
Hi,

I have MARY 3.4.2 WM6 ROM on my Trinity.

I see that if I try to change theme or with RC MOD (application that alow to chanche bar colors) color of the bar don't change and is always grey!!

Any way to solve this problem?

Thanks
[P3600 ROM Development] blessipo:
Same with 3.5.2 :-(

Any idea on how to change the background in Today. I can barely read the menus...

Thx

Great rom anyway

B
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattyp1975:
Hi all, I have had my note 2 for about 4 months and absolutely love it, by far the best phone I've had even better than my edge. I've been recently trying out custom ROMs.......HD revolution and omega were poor to day the least phone kept throwing up error's on both ROMs. Two days ago I downloaded and installed resurrection remix which is an absolutely awesome ROM the best I've tried. I do have a few questions though

I've downloaded og you tube but it won't install I press the install button and nothing happens yet the cancel button works fine.

Also can I easily change the boot up animation to what I choose as the RR one is rubbish.

Thanks in advance

Matt
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcorona:
Og YouTube have 2 installation ( with & without root)

if you install it you should install microG for OGYT v 1.0 (in my caes I donot use gapps)

then you should grant right permissions ( for OG YouTube) in apps setting in your phone

you can take a look at this

https://og-youtube.com/solve-og-youtube-not-installing-error/
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcorona:
try to make fresh download from OGYT site

do not install the app form your card ( you should remove official youtube completely from your phone before installing OGyt )
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattyp1975:
I've tried all this already and nothing happens, its strange because its like the install button just doesn't work because when u press the cancel button it highlights in grey yet the install button doesn't. I'm relatively new to all this could it have something to do with GAPPS?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papdya:
Clear the cache of package installer app.. reboot phone... The install button will work
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcorona:
if you want to download youtube videos you can use snaptube.apk

if you want to browse youtube without (gapps) you can use paraphron.youtube

most of note 2 roms (nougha) have bugs in playback videos (3rd party apks) & almost of CM roms have the same bug

there is more options with xposed for downloading videos from facebook & youtube

but you should know that xposed doesn't fit nougha at the moment

if you want custom rom for daily use: stable as rock & bugless & fast & black theme ...you can test

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-2/development/theoneonly-rom-4-4-2-18-12-15-v1-0-t3272842

although it is old rom (4.4.2) , but i think it is the best rom for note 2
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcorona:
by the way if you interested in roms boot animation you can check this

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2063280