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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
Phones aren't pcs the difference between the 820 and 835 is 27%. The best thing the 835 offers is more power efficiency (reportedly 47%).

Further programmers would have to take advantage of the new hardware but majority of them stick to being universal for most phones rather than take advantage of the latest hardware.

Very unlikely to see a day to day difference. Hell I went from the 808 to the 820 and according to benchmarks it's almost 3 times faster and while there is a difference for sure its not really groundbreaking outside of gaming.

As for the g6, i think listening to the reviewers about their phones needing waterproofing is a mistake. The removable battery is really the main reason I stick to LG right now. If they're going to sell out and jump on the waterproof nonremovable battery trend I'll probably go to the note 8 next.

The nonremovable battery, capacity and low junkware is the primary reasoning for my LG use.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rowihel2012:
I hope lg stop use this quatum lcd display

They are not great

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And newer camera sensor with powerful performance
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] vanemburghj:
[MENTION=5618516]evo4g63t[/MENTION] I agree a potential 47% power efficiency is no big deal.... So most Android users are missing the big picture, so let me throw it on the table. 1. Google release after release has locked the software down to the point we will be like apple and unable to root any device in the near future. 2. Google has started to release their own devices which in turn makes more them like apple than the free willy software developers they were just a few short years ago. 3. At some point in the future they will stop sharing their OS with other device makers and the only place you will find android will be on their device (sort of like apple, how nice). 4. You say how can they do this without a chip supplier? Well Samsung happens to prefer chip making over device making so a long term deal for chips and they bow out of the device market is no big leap. 5. So at the end of the day the universal market as we know it is on it last legs and where are you going to go if android does that? To android because all the other OS's out there blow in comparison, plus if you have a fair share of apps are you going to start over again? I won't, to wrapped up in android apps to start over, I will continue to bounce around till it happens, the V20 is ok, no where as refined as my Note 4 was, but hey my choice was buy an exploding phone or the V20.....
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] kevinchristopherson:
I just bought the s7 on a whim, and turning in the v20. Big mistake. I love rooting and mods so the buzz is samsung is cracking down by locking their bootloader. With the s7 we have to use flashfire instead of normal recovery, and the scuttlebutt is the s8 will be locked down as well, so If the g6 is not as wonderfull as I was hoping , I may just go back to the v20 for the time being, and wait for a mid summer release of something. "So I'm asking", Any opinions of which phones that will be user friendly towards rooting and such coming out soon, I would love to hear your opinions that can help sway me what to do. Thanks.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
There is just no way the phone will have a 5.7" screen. Otherwise, whats the point on having the v series and g series? They are like the samsung s series and the note series. The s series are supposed to be smaller, and the note series bigger. And if they make the g6 a 5.7".... Then that means they already ran out of ideas and dont know what else to do. Im perfecrly fine with my v20 lol. Maybe if v30 comes and i will change the v20 in about 3 or 4 years. And maybe not even in 6 years considering that all the phones now dont have removable battery
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Milly7:
Well they did decide on 5.7" screen according to this hands-on

https://goo.gl/hzrOhA

We are here in Barcelona at MWC 2017, and we go hands-on and give you our first look at the latest LG flagship offering, the LG G6!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Well... Things just got out of hands.... LOOOOOOOL. Officicially not buying it. Thanks for the link though. :cowboy:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] stemplar007:
LG G6

,,...The device also features wireless charging and a Hi-Fi audio DAC, but unfortunately, these features are going to be region specific. So, while wireless charging will be available only in the US, the audio DAC will be limited to select markets in Asia. LG says that this is an informed decision based on consumer wants and needs in each particular region. For example, the demand for wireless charging is quite high in the US, while it isn’t as important in other regions, such as South Korea...,,

..money is money.. HiFi Quad DAC in Asian.

The rest of the Snapdragon 821 plays music. :) :) Or the private import ..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nrod0784:
They messed up. If all models had ALL of the features mentioned, it'd be a tempting device. As is, no go for me. I'll keep my v20 a bit longer.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Artimis:
G6, no thanks. Not worth giving up my IR Blaster, removable battery, and Quad-DAC for water resistance

(US customer).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dartinbout:
When does the V30 drop? The V20 has spoiled me for any other phone that doesn't record and playback at least 24\192.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Get a Xperia since Sony really supporting the dev, go to their developer world site and you'll see what i mean..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] htc fan89:
Probably the same time like last year , fall.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
This is the ultimate me too phone, instead of experimenting with new ideas like they have in the past (second screen, dual lens camera, second screen, modular design, certified shock resistance) they're going to be like every other phone in the market.

There is nothing unique about this phone at ALL. I swear they do this crap with the v30 I'll be returning to Samsung.

I blame reviewers for this, instead of recognizing the differences LG has offered they criticize it because it's not exactly the same as every other phone. It's unfortunate the general population is so clueless that they follow the big review sites like cnet when they purchase items when we all know what Apple nut huggers they are.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] 12MaNy:
I'll wait for the V30. G6's lack of removable battery is a deal breaker for me. Plus, I've grown fond of that 2nd screen.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lilhaiti:
No...the G6 is a Galaxy S8 now. All of the "LG" features are gone. It's just like iPhone and Galaxy now.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Right? i mean, chances for someone to drop the phone in the water or even spill a glass of water or a beer is near to 10% if not to none LOL. When i had my Samsung galaxy s5 (yes waterproof) i used to go to shower with the phone, and guess what..... I still bought a waterproof cover anyway. It doesn't matter whether a company tells you that the phone is waterproof or not. One can never be too careful. I mean we are dealing with Technology! which usually involves ELECTRICITY and well... I rather play it safe even when the phone is announced to be WATERPROOF. So.... if i rather play it safe, why wouldn't i do that with any phone anyway and just buy a d**m waterproof cover for X or Y phone instead of buying something that is waterproof (and well they remove some features thanks to that reason such as a removable battery).

I keep saying over and over and over again that the Samsung galaxy S5 is the best phone Samsung has ever created. Anything other than the S5 is pure c**p, (My opinion, take it or leave it LOL but i know why i say this.)

And well... The G6 seems to be just another experiment that seems to me that they are more likely copying from other brands. AGAIN I DO NOT RECOMMEND FOR THEM TO DO THAT OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT GET SUED JUST LIKE SAMSUNG AND APPLE SITUATION . I like the LG because they are at least trying to keep the flames of originality/creativity alive and not copying things from other brands.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Z51:
I'm looking forward to buying one. My favorite LG device has been the G2 thus far. I still like that phone to this day. Super smooth and great battery life.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I prefer a smaller screen and don't really care about DAC as I'm always on Bluetooth so I'm looking forward to the g6.

However, I got this phone for 4 bucks a month, so it will have to be a sell like that
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] my_handle:
I also took the s5 in the shower with me lol. But I got rid of it quick. It had horrible reception issues for me. I'm a cross country driver and when home it was good but on the road it could never hold a signal and always dropping calls. I hated that phone lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Never happened to me. I always had great signal (including in Oklahoma when i went for vacation lol) i live at miami. But well. Maybe is because of the carrier. I was on tmobile when i had it. I still on tmobile with the v20.

Update: now that i recall, there was a time that happened to me. It was when i flashed the wrong modem for my phone lol.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
I think LG is making a huge mistake and I don't think they understand why people buy their phones, they offer features other phones don't have at least thats why I use them to change this and become a sheep in the market you mind as well go Samsung at least Samsung has the latest processor 835.

I really hope this isn't the future of LG they really were the only cell phone that made unique features outside of other manufacturers that just copy each other. I want them to continue to go on a different path from the competition (external memory and removable battery primarily) the second screen on the v10 was what got me to LG it is unique and quite useful.

Please LG do not take the v series on this path.

The only real complaint I have is the bootloop issue with the g4/v10.

Water resistance (its not water proofing really) is one of the dumbest trends in smart phones, I've never had a water issue in the 16 years I've had a phone to me it's appeal is a niche on the market for the few that can't live without their phone in the shower or someone that wants to take pictures underwater.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
m8 you and i can be brothers LOL!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
So why are you in the LG section?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
Lol the g6 is only coming in 32gb form, wtf LG what in the hell are you doing? This isn't 2013. Let's pray they don't completely destroy the v series next Jesus.

Absolutely ridiculous, I hope this phone bombs there is absolutely zero reason (ok maybe water resistance but the competition has already been doing that) anyone would pick this phone over a v20 or the competition.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
32 GB doesn't bother me much cause i use a 200gb SD card but it does seem a cop out to save money. Watch the bootloader be locked like the S7 ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] razzrmaxx:
At least Snap 821 wont explode on you lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
It will be interesting with the 835 since both the 808 and 810 had heat problems (LG g4/v10). 810 throttled, 808 contributed to the dreaded boot loop.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nonbiasedhippo:
Dude don't buy it then....seems like you're trying to convince yourself you don't want it...if 32gb is such a big deal go buy a 256 micro sd card...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Now, here is the thing and im really questioning this LOL! Why on earth is there a LG G6 thread on a LG V20's forum? .... Keep it real and use the appropriate forums. Otherwise OP among others will only find people arguing about x or y reasons for why to buy it and why not to buy it and then as usual, the why not to buy it will overpower the reasons for why to buy it and in the end, it will just be an endless argument (until the other phone lose its fame) .... I have seen other thread created to talk about other phones on the LG V20's forum and ...it is just the same thing over and over and over again. I mean, that's why there are specific forums for specific phones. To talk about their phones individually, and maybe to compare with other phones (always that the phone mentioned in the title is the phone for which the forum was created and the comments under that thread can contain comparisons with other phones) ... Maybe I'm one among a very small percentage of people who like to be somewhat organized and try to keep things under topic as much as possible without deviating too much. :rolleyes:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suhridkhan:
In my opinion, this thread is totally relevant and in appropriate place. This is not exactly a G6 thread, this is a thread of the V20 users discussing and comparing their phone with the G6.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Then what are the other forums for if not to withhold content about an specific device? In such case it would be better to just create an LG forum and put every lg thread within it and well if people want to find specific content, to use the search function. But, bear in mind, every thread created is a placeholder filled and extra materials (which in my opinion is unnecessary) to read. Yes, i did posted a couple of things in this thread. But regardless of that, that doesnt mean that the thread itself is in the correct forum. Neither the pixel one nor the htc ultra one created under the V20's forum. There are also foruma called general and a significant amount of other forums that can hold this thread and the title even could be seen by more people than on an specific forum. I mean, you are comparing 2 devices but you are in a forum for an specific device. Regardless of the purpose of the OP, other people might be interested in the topic but dont go to neither the v20 nor the g6 forums just because by common sense, because there are 2 devices involved, they shouldnt be in ome specific forum. Again, maybe im one among fews that try to be organized.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suhridkhan:
Everybody has their own opinion, and that doesn't mean that one of us has to be right/wrong.

The way I see this is that, this sub-forum is for the V20 users. Now, as a V20 user myself, if I am seeking the advice of other fellow V20 users about this upgrade to G6, I don't see any other place better suited to ask this question. :confused:

Now, as for continuing the discussion... I would love to upgrade to G6 but cannot afford it right now. I always buy LG phones after 6 months of release. I have been doing this since G4, V10, G5 and now V20. LG phones seem to come down half in price in about 6 months. Got my V20 for 360$ only on a tmobile deal. I shall look for a G6 when it's price come down at that range!

Another reason that would be stopping me is the lack of removable battery. I have been a Samsung fan for years till note4, then they ditched the removable battery. So, I may have to wait till a V30.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
How come i did find the perfect spot in less than a minute?

https://xdaforums.com/general/device-reviews-and-information

Also the g6 is not even on the same serie. There are v series, g series, k series, ... Probably the whole alphabet. So is like comparing apples to grapes where apples is the v series and grapes the g series. Or comparing the galaxy s series with the note series.

But you are right. I was just stating a point. Bon chance
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suhridkhan:
I repeat. "if I am seeking the advice of other fellow V20 users about this upgrade to G6, I don't see any other place better suited to ask this question." :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
he asked for opinions from v20 users and I am giving it.

I don't need any convincing to not buy this me too phone the v20 is superior in every way except for water resistance and processor. There is nothing neat or unique about this phone.

FYI internal memory is far faster than any external card. I use an external card for music and photos but for apps internal memory is much faster, 32gb is a joke it's not 2012.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nonbiasedhippo:
Sounds like you are. From what Ive seen, most flagships are still doing 32.... The G6 design alone looks way, way better then the V20.. Also having native wireless charging is a plus. V20 is superior TOO YOU in every way. You make it sound like anyone who gets the G6 over the precious V20 is crazy.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ewingr:
As far as I'm concerned, it all boils down to your needs and preferences.

I tried the V20, and grew to love it. A couple things in particular: the second screen, and the location and functionality of the fingerprint sensor. These two things would drive me to the V series...if only they weren't problematic with Blue Tooth. Can't have that.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimmydee62:
Everything is right except its a snapdragon 821.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mingkee:
I tested in corp store and I definitely won't get it.

The screen is narrow like 5" but the length is long as V20 with banner.

Screen is too yellowish.

No way to root.
[Moto Z Play Accessories] mrw333:
There are two versions of the Incipio offGRID Power Pack Moto Mod. One with and one without wireless charging. I know the one without wireless charging must be charged attached to the phone. Can the wireless version be charged separately, or also only when on the phone?
[Moto Z Play Accessories] DadOudidOuda:
From what little tests I did it needs to be on the phone. With the wireless charger I have it doesn't work if I just put it on the charger.

Been unable to recharge this mod on its own is its only really downside.
[Moto Z Play Accessories] jayb222:
It recharges just fine wirelessly and by it self. View attachment 4008861
[Moto Z Play Accessories] DadOudidOuda:
My bad, I just realised I have the mod without wireless charging (although I supposedly bought the one with it, I've got a store to go back to ^^').

Sorry for the misinformation!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomsnunes:
Hello guys, I'm experiencing a problem with my sound in n7100. I don't think it's software related as I've flash the stock rom and the problem persist.

My microphone isn't working in any situation (voice call, voice recorder) and the device it's producing a buzzing sound by the speaker during the normal usage, specifically when using any kind of media.

I'm thinking to buy a new sub pcb that comes with a new microphone and maybe replace the speakers, but after some investigation I begin to think that the problem maybe be the audio ic.

Someone here have faced such problem in our loved n7100?

Thank you my friends!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] dogmatism:
As usual OTA updates should be applied via stock recovery (through adb sideload best)

v1. SS-G891AUCU1APE7-to-U1APG7-UP (270M) Download (G891AUCU1APE7 -> G891AUCU1APG7)

v2. SS-G891AUCU1APG7-to-S1APH1-UP (60.6M) Download (G891AUCU1APG7 -> G891AUCS1APH1)

v3. SS-G891AUCS1APH1-to-S2API2 (46.5M) Download (G891AUCS1APH1 -> G891AUCS2API2)

v4. SS-G891AUCS2API2-to-U2APK2 (409 M) Download (G891AUCS2API2 -> G891AUCU2APK2)

v5. SS-G891AUCU2APK2-to-S2APL1-UP (44.7M) Download (G891AUCU2APK2 -> G891AUCS2APL1)

Android 7 Nougat [Official G891AUCU2BQB2 update]

G891AUCS2APL1-to-U2BQB2-UP (1.48GB) Download

G891AUCS2AQA1 to G891AUCU2BQB2 (1.47GB) Download

G891AUCU2APK2 to G891AUCU2BQB2 (1.48GB) Download

Use at your own risk. Ive successfully updated my device from PH1 to PK2

*Don't worry "Network" unlocked/ unlocked status remain same after updates.

Source

UPDATE: Full Nougat update via ODIN

After waiting for a root, I have finally given up and updated my S7 Active to Nougat via ODIN. I have a network unlocked S7 active, the update when smoothly and fixed the lags and didn't change network status. The internal storage was fully wiped.

Here is the thread for the ODIN package:

https://xdaforums.com/s7-active/how-to/g891a-android-n-offical-odin-package-t3581042

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] raze5115:
The device remains with a unlocked bootloader? So that's why I can't use android pay or Samsung pay
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] PhabianSpooner:
I've successfully updated my device from PK2 to PL1
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] raze5115:
so if you go from pi2 to pl4 after your phone was rooted on pl1 for me at least it still detects my phone as a rooted phone for some reason and I can't use either samsung pay or android pay. How do I become available to be able to use samsung pay and android pay on the pl4 rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] phoenixlemon:
Alright, so I have an S7 Active on 6.0.1, unrooted. How would I go about installing the Nougat update? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] dogmatism:
Not bootloader. Network lock/unlock. The whole problem with these ATT devices are the lack of support to unlock bootloaders, thus we can't install custom recovery, and lack of development.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] trungctu:
The zip file (G891AUCS2APL1 -> G891AUCU2BPL4) had some issue that sideload can not read it. Does anyone has the same?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] dogmatism:
Maybe a bad download, did you try to use the mirror link from googledrive?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] trungctu:
I also loaded 2 version, and confirmed that it had the same size, but ABD Sideload can not read both of them.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] raze5115:
That's cause with the files in this thread your supposed to use the stock recovery to flash them via the option that says flash update from sd card.

As far as samsung pay goes you actually can use it you just have to manually download the 2.5.11 samsung pay apk file and sideload it.

However android pay doesn't work at all cause for some reason it still thinks the phone is either rooted, has an unlocked bootloader, or running a custom rom.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jimd1050:
So would you just place the zip file in the root directory of the SD Card then use that "flash from SD Card" option from the same screen where you do a "wipe cache partition"?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] raze5115:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] slimshouki:
If I updated to pl4 while I was on stock 6.0.1 from stock recovery, will I lose unlock status of my phone?

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Is there any guide to update the phone to latest firmware to avoid any problems? Benefits for update and drawbacks?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jimd1050:
Sweet... took about an hour and a half to load and then restore my apps, etc from 6.0.1 but it's up and running as smooth as can be, no glitches, no errors, no problems! Thank you "dogmatism" for the files and procedural information and "raze5115" for answering my questions! My Samsung Galaxy 7 Active is Nougatized! :)

*Edit - 01/27/17 - Re-installed Samsung Pay last night and reconfigured my credit card - works fine with 7.0 just as "raze5115" stated!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] dogmatism:
see OP , you will not loose network unlock status. Basically it is not touched.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] albaneasy123:
Load Nugat?

Should I do this via stock recovery off the SD card or through odin in download mode?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jimd1050:
Read posts #11 (I asked the same question), #12 and #14... went very smooth!