yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Expanding on your answer a bit; During the transition from CM to LOS the cycle changed from true nightlies with "stable" monthly builds (snapshots), to weekly builds with neither flag. To your point the ROM is stable in spite of the difference in labels, and in spite of some bugs. One caveat is that LOS 14.1 does not perform as well on 1GB Osprey devices as it does on other even older 1GB devices.

There is a significant upside to this new arrangement for us, that being LOS Jira now accepts bug reports each weekend , where in CM they only accepted bug reports for the monthly snapshots.

To those who are worried about the labels, a funny story: The only time I ever installed a ROM without a making a nandroid backup was when installing some CM11 Snapshot. Well, it just so happened that snapshot introduced an error that was not in previous stable nightlies. It was very rare for that to happen on a snapshot build but does serve your point not to worry about the labels (but always be ready for bugs).

It will be interesting to see if this development progression or labeling changes when LOS 15 becomes official although I don't expect it will.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Smaller gapps package:

- Privacy.

- Control.

- Just don't need those Google. things.

- Flexibility to install and remove additional components.

- Ability to use Titanium Backup to restore aforementioned user installed gapps components.

Larger gapps package:

- Less storage space may be required for the same combination of apps and services.

- Convenience at the moment of flashing.

- Less flexibility to uninstall and reinstall gapps bits that were installed as system components.

- Less likely to be able to use Titanium Backup on aforementioned system components.

- More convenient and consolidated for people who use many of Google's services and apps.

My usage case for Pico gapps: Want as little Google stuff as possible but need Play Store and voice typing... so at each ROM Flash I use Pico gapps and manually restore the Google Search app which can be handled in Titanium Backup because it was installed manually as a user App instead of by the gaps package as a system app. Although it may be possible to remove and reinstall some of those system components since I really don't need and actually don't want those other Google products on my device there's no need for me to take that risk. Even as it is in this relatively Google lean device, I still blocked several Google services with a firewall.

To put it bluntly, That is because people disregard the topic and intentions of development threads... not applying critical thinking to the internal question "is it appropriate to post this here", or just being lazy.

It is different when a problem with a gapps package informs LOS development. Also an individual question isn't so bad but that usually results in an ongoing discussion and more questions and then the thread is about that topic instead of whatever ROM bugs are being tested and reported.

That all being said, with gapps I suppose there is a finer line between on and off topic then with most other things.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schneich:
Firefox app very slow

Hi,

I am using firefox app (version 57.0) on LOS 14.1 (Version 9.11.2017). Firefox is so slow. even the google page takes ages to load.

Is anyone else having the same issue?

Could this be connected to some default privacy settings in LOS 14.1?

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MobileID / mobile identity management

I post this because it might be of interest for users, before installing LOS for the first time.

In a couple of European contries, some mobile network operators offer "mobile identity management" or "MobileID", as it is called in Switzerland. I have been using this service in stock rom before and it does work on LOS 14.1 as well.

So, I trust you guys a lot, as I access my bank account through this service. :D
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marking133:
Any idea how to enable volte or enhanced lte on sim 2 (sim1 pin broke off) on this rom?

Or any rom supporting that?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
No.. our firmware is support only 1sim volte i.e., Sim 1 is only support VoLTE.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Understood, real world happens, but please don't get upset when someone asks for the gaps to be filled.

Good point, although there are 2 sides to that. I'm going to go a little off topic but think you may appreciate this and this is in the interest of clearer communications. I should mention at this point that one of my reasons for being on XDA is to practice creating technical and user documentation in a less distinctly idiomatic form of English than I have written them in professionally over the past 25 years for English-only speakers, so this topic interests me and I'm glad you made that point.

To your point; "Where did you learn this?" may seem more challenging than it was intended (although stops well short of any accusation). Fair enough so I'll think about better ways to word that.

As to your suggestion: "Is there any link that u claim the above statement": By some interpretations this actually implies something more negative than I was saying as it indicates that the request for source was perceived as a challenge of your truthfulness with the words "...that you claim the above statement...". Perhaps this is just another area where different use of language can yield different interpretations so... just to be clear, I was not challenging the truthfulness of what you shared (I've seen you here enough to know that you don't BS like that) just asking for the source.

Likewise, and thanks for the reply. [/QUOTE]
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
[/QUOTE]hmmm... sry.. yes miscommunication is happened... I have lack of knowledge in language that's why.. [emoji14]

so forget everything and lets support the development & helping each others.. :D

:D
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
No criticism whatsoever for anyone communicating here outside their primary or most comfortable language. In fact I wish more of the English-only speakers I know would speak it as well as the XDA members for whom English is a secondary language do.

Getting back to ROM stuff, I may stick with LOS 14.1 until LOS 15 becomes official but have been watching, and have recently noticed what seems to be a flow of people back to LOS14. Do you know if there is an specific reason for that or if it is just the natural flow of people exploring the ROM then switching back to the stable familiar one?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
dnt know about others..

Right now m in alberto97 AOSP rom which is based on oreo. I May stick with this rom until LOS 15 is become stable..

Thatswhy m inactive in los14.1.. today morning i saw that message thatswhy i replied to that post which is common..
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rohanmane3:
hi guy today i downloaded LOS 14.1 24/11/2017 zip and copied to my phone internal storage but when i copied from internal to sd card it show zero size is it me or anyone else face this problem, need help ?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Sounds like a bad download but it is unclear if the downloaded file was zero size or if that happened after the copy process. You should dig into that. If it was a bad download, you could try downloading via a different device or method, perhaps a desktop computer with a web browser, if that is an option for you.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rohanmane3:
Well i did the same , i copied the zip on internal sd its show ok but when i copy to external sd its shows zero file size, well when i rebooted the phone the zip file or any other file shows normal size. Does anyone have any explanation on this problem
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks. OK, so it's not a download problem. I can think of some reasons for the symptoms you describe but would just be guessing. Also, I assume you are more interested in going forward and flashing the new ROM than going back to troubleshoot the copy process but if you are really curious about what occurred I would suggest reproducing the file copy while logging.

FWIW, these 2 possibilities:

- Sometimes the Android media scanner can fall behind file operations but normally that would occur with larger quantities of smaller multimedia files rather than and individual ROM installer zip file. This is something that occurs in MiXplorer file manager which MiX works around by including a button to invoke the Andoid media scanner.

- Also, some file managers don't refresh the view after a copy process so even when it is complete the view may show no file or file of zero size until a refresh is invoked (usualy by down swipe or a button).

What file manager were you using to copy the file?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rohanmane3:
First i want to thank you for your efforts n explanation, n im using es explorer.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahul9999:
It's something related to Rom side.. i have seen this in some nougat Roms & also on some previouse Los 14.1 builds when there is a Sdcard issues.. may i know you're on which build & you're varient?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
You're welcome, and I must confess a selfish interest since I participate actively in the MiXplorer (a file manager and more) thread and contribute to its FAQ, where ES is occasionally mentioned for contrast.

Although ES Explorer's information gathering practices are questionable (ever since it was purchased by Cheetah Mobile who turn apps into borderline spyware) and ES is understandably unpopular in threads for competing file managers (ie MiXplorer), ES actually set high water marks for function and performance in many ways and should be able to handle that. If it occurs again, see if giving it more time and refreshing the file list views helps. It also might be worth finding some ES Explorer resource to see if anyone has reported similar issues there.

[EDIT] I've been ninja-ed by a more targeted suggestion from [MENTION=4912374]rahul9999[/MENTION] here: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74633613&postcount=270

I'm curious about the build dates because I've been flashing LOS 14.1 nearly every week on 1 (or more) of 3 devices and never seen this issue. This is not at all to doubt the issue, but may put it in a context of a particular configuration if not specific group of builds. If you don't mind sharing; which ROMs have you seen this in, based on AOSP or based on LOS after the fact?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahul9999:
I will be more on Los rather than any other ROMs.. I'm not sure exactly on which other ROMs i have seen this but I'm damn sure about Los 14.1.. You can check its development thread for more information regarding this..
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks. I've been running LOS 14/14.1 on 4 devices for months (now down to 3 devices) and I practically live in the Athene, Osprey and Peregrine LOS 14.1 XDA threads and LOS Jira where I don't recall seeing any reports of this being a ROM issue. Again, not doubting that people have experienced this issue, but understandably would not be convinced that it is specifically an LOS issue until seeing a report that establishes such. Will definitely keep an eye out for it though. Thanks again.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahul9999:
I think this guy will help you to remind the issue [MENTION=2945516]KrisM22[/MENTION]

He have created a separate thread to discuss that issue when people are spamming in development thread.. https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/help/discussion-sdcards-device-t3623266
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Fortunately the issues being discussed there have nothing to do with LOS (which is why such separate threads exist). The fact that some people there saw problems go away when they clean flashed new ROM version is not an indication that this was a ROM issue, and could just as well be an indication of the opposite. The last person to post an issue there was clearly having potential issue with possibly corrupt media.

FYI: Those seeing messages referring to drive or data "corruption" but puzzled by why we may be able to read or even sometimes write to the drive could review these 2 posts (specific to that issue and not in competition with aforementioned thread) which describe a bit of forensics that a Sandisk support rep helped me with when I had similar SD card issues.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66350500&postcount=1

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66365414&postcount=7

... and then there are the possible effects of adoptable storage which I'm not speaking to.

Anyhow thanks for clarifying the nature of these SD card reports, which don't seem to be ROM issues that we need to worry about specifically in re LOS.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackching:
Does anyone in the world know how to make an mp3 file on your phone your ringtone in N?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Try placing them in /internal SD/ringtones, then reboot and allow media scan to complete (5 or so minutes), then try to set as ringtone. Something similar may work with /internal SD/alarms. I do this to set custom ringtones and alarms.

Disclaimer: in some cases when playing with this stuff you may end up with duplicate items in the ringtone selection screen each for the added files, where one of each duplicate works OK but the other one does not - if so nothing broken, easy to clean up. I would suggest starting simple by placing 1 mp3 file in /internal SD/ringtones > reboot > etc.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackching:
This method doesnt seem to work for me. I didnt think it was so hard to add your own ringtone
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityak1303:
Its not hard at all. Just install any file explorer (like Solid Explorer or MiXplorer). After that go to settings >> sound and tap on 'phone ringtone' option. Then you'll get a pop-up asking you to select either 'Media Storage' or your file explorer. Select your file explorer, navigate to the directory where you have the mp3 and select it. That's it.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
That should work (and the files persist at that location through clean flashes) but [MENTION=7725765]adityak1303[/MENTION]'s suggestion is more practical. If neither work then something is amiss.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackching:
The problem is that im not getting prompted to use the file explorer after installation and reboot
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hunimix:
Hi, in this rom, substratum is working totally or only partially? :D
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Have you searched this thread or the official one for "substratum"? ;)

Unless something has changed in the past 2 months Lineage OS does not support Substratum, and substratum Playstore page or documentation may mention this as well. It may be made to work but also may leave a legacy of material on the device which can prevent flashing ROMs until that material is manually removed. You can learn more about this by searching the LOS 14.1 XDA threads and LOS Jira for "substratum" and "oms".
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htw1:
I have question for people who has this ROM more then 2-3 months, is he stable enough for daily purpose? Any irritating issues?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for re-posting in Q&A, which frees us up to compare notes. I've been using LOS 14.1 on Osprey since it became official. The ROM is generally stable for my use but does have some issues.

- Occasional freeze at beginning of reboot: Worked around by using squid2's Osprey kernel)

- 1GB Osprey devices don't seem to perform as well under LOS 14.1 than other even older 1GB devices do. Mitigated by: using Kernel Adiutor to change minfree (Low Memory Killer) settings.

- The LOS Camera is not friendly to any 1GB device and performs particularly poorly on 1GB Osprey devices. Worked around by using one of the Moto stock cameras.

That all being said, I am using LOS 14.1 on this device and not some other ROM. You can find out much more about those issues by searching the Osprey LOS 14.x development thread as well as LOS Jira but Note: I'm only sharing what I've experienced, and each situation might experience different issues.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtps:
Sup,

two questions:

1. if i'm understanding this correctly Alberto97 is not maintaining this ROM anymore, is this ROM considered abandoned or no?

2. Related to (1). I'm a happy user of this ROM and all i really care about are monthly AOSP security updates. However all i see in the changelog is "bumped security string to xxx", and last merged patches to osprey kernel are by Alberto97 from 18 of October.

I guess i cant really trust the security string then, can i?

Thanks.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
ya currently alberto is not maintaing any lineageos, due to some issue on lineage community and his bussy personal life.... so lets hope someone wil mantain our device alive. ya ableto will focus on only aosp rom... still hope because he didn't say about our osprey device.

M saying this on the basis of alberto's some messages on Addison lineage 14.1 xda thread..
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjc123:
Is that in reference to the kernel security updates only for the Moto G 2015, because I just installed the lastest Lineage version today? Very sad to hear this if it is true, as security is the number 1 reason I am running Lineage, and Osprey is the number 4 most popular device running Lineage.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtps:
Well

(cant post proper links)

review.lineageos.org/#/q/project:LineageOS/android_kernel_motorola_msm8916

cve.lineageos.org/android_kernel_motorola_msm8916

(this apparently may be incomplete or something?)

If i understand it correctly, we still get security updates not related to the msm8916 kernel, as part of the LOS distribution, so better than nothing.

Also addison (LOS 14.1 for Moto Z Play, also previously maintained by Alberto97) got kicked out from LineageOS, osprey (Moto G 2015) didnt, so apparently it isnt completely abandoned?

thats why i ask.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
because osprey dosent get any serious bugs to kick out...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtps:
Also semi-related, how much effort is merging kernel security patches?

Am i right in assuming that you take them from some upstream android/AOSP source, commit them to Gerrit for review (found a wiki entry for that) and thats it, no actual software engineering skills required?

If thats it, i'd contribute for sure .
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
LMK (minfree) on 1GB devices and shutdown freeze seem serious to me but I suppose we each may experience different bugs in different usage cases and on different sub-models.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
ohh i didn't get any news about that.. but the sad thing is that nkw no one is maintaining osprey. so jira will not help i think.. if we submit jira then they may kick the osprey too like they did for adison...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronTechmonkey:
FWIW Squid2 is still a contributor. I hope Osprey stays on the build roster, but to your point, without an assigned maintainer a device might be dropped. That being said, I would hope LOS Jira to make that decision based on maintainer support rather than whether or not we are submitting a Jira tickets.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vikas644:
I have a problem regarding Lineage Camera.Whenever i tap to focus ,the camera focuses but after pressing the camera button it defocuses ,which results blurred images.Does no matter which build i am using,am facing this issue in all builds.Whereas stock camera was fine.!

Is there any way to solve this issue??
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subham9997:
I have a wifi problem..every few minutes my wifi automatically turn off and then after few minutes its turn onn its self how can i fix that?? I am using Lineageos 14.1
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stonny20:
Did you try clean flashing the ROM .

---------- Post added at 09:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------

Do check out moto camera in apps thread

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/themes-apps/moto-camera-modded-apk-v6-0-84-1-t3693891

Thanks [MENTION=4912374]rahul9999[/MENTION]
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sargam44:
[MENTION=347145]KrisM[/MENTION] what are the things should be in nandroid backup .and can we successfully restore it
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sachin ET:
How can i disable Noise Cancelation?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjyTec:
I didn't even know our device has noise cancelling at phone calls due to lack of microphones...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samir.saurav:
Hi [MENTION=4480917]Alberto97[/MENTION], I am using this unofficial build : https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/o...official-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246/post74417477

Please confirm that those changes have been merged into official nightly ?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebastian19911:
Good morning.

I have installed 14.1 with use of instructions (clean flash) and I can't enter IMS settings. Call area->settings->Calls->IMS settings service com.android.phone has stopped.

I got logcat but don't know how to attach it. Going by faq "On this page, below the message box, you will find a button labelled 'Manage Attachments'" I didn't find mentioned button.

Device is Motorola Xt1541

Best regards.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjyTec:
On the xda page, on the bottom there is a field for 'Quick reply'. Tap 'Go advanced' below it, it will load a screen with more options. Click on the paperclip icon, it will open up a popup window letting you attach files.

Did you clean flash this ROM including the necessary wipes? Did you flash any additional things? Because I have never read of this problem before.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebastian19911:
That's how I wrote in the first place, now again and I can't see that paperclip (really, not trolling).

I installed only SU, downloaded from thread with HowTo install 14.1 LineageOS. Before that wiped all with twrp. Installed with instruction.

UP:

I wiped and installed again just 14.1 and GAPPS, same still error on the same step.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjyTec:
Huh, that's incredibly weird. Maybe check out this link to the thread, maybe you have set an old theme of the XDA homepage. View the the two attached screenshots how it looks on my computer.

If you followed the instructions and clean flashed and issue is still there, maybe post in the development thread with the log (if you'll manage to attach it one day ;)).
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unlimited1991:
This is me (sebastian19911), found credentials to my old account. New account policy no attachments for 10 posts.

Yea, 1st time was clean, 2nd one I ensured factory reset + wipe dada and system than installed rom without reboot gapps for ARM 7.1 android and than reboot (no root now, same problem, like I wrote).
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unlimited1991:
Again I try to make clean flash, still the same problem. I hold with tries till I receive (I hope and beg for it) any suggestions with what to do....
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjyTec:
I recommend you to post the log and description of the problem in the development thread ('discussion' tab). In my opinion this definitely does belong to development, where more experienced users are going to see it.