yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mate 8 General] ebait:
The version I downloaded which was linked in the Russian forum did the trick for me using TWRP. The earlier version did not install at all (error 7).
[Mate 8 General] Faithnetic:
IF YOU HAVE ERROR 7 FOLLOW THIS :

Update zip : http://4pda.ru/pages/go/?u=http://u...a.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=719987&st=4680

data : http://4pda.ru/pages/go/?u=http://u...a.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=719987&st=4680

And follow the instructions from the first post but using these two new zips.

Note : The first boot will take up to 1-2min at logo screen, dont panic!
[Mate 8 General] NMonster69:
How do you get rid of this stupid af mandatory google voice input?

Looks like tethering is disabled. No cell broadcast either. At least that I can find. Sorry I left my bluetooth keyboard at work. Can't get around this voice crap.

<update> the put cell broadcast in messaging settings like samsung does.
[Mate 8 General] ImSpiderman:
I can confirm, with this version phone works perfectly, all working and fast, no more nfc bug, thank you thestarki
[Mate 8 General] NMonster69:
I have everything working except tethering and turning off voice input. Good rom so far.

<update> bluetooth and nfc is not turning on for some reason.

back to the Note 4 and the stock rom on this one.
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
How can I update my phone without twrp because I cant register on Huawei ID because my country isn't listed so I cant unlock bootloader. When I try to update via HiSuite it says that currently B320 is my latest official FW. I dont see any method to update my phone to Nougat.

Can someone give me advice what can I do...

Thx in advance
[Mate 8 General] ImSpiderman:
try again with update and update hw eu zip in the link posted by thestarki, dload emui 4.0 or 4.1, unlock bootloader and install twrp, go in twrp and do a factory reset (just go in wipe and swipe the button), then just flash update first and update hw eu second. It has to work. I think that you have these problems now because looks like the hw zip flash didnt work
[Mate 8 General] NMonster69:
That is the one I used. I will try again and see.

It's not my main phone right now so I can screw around with it at my leisure, but I wanted to take it to Europe because of the long battery life and most excellent camera.
[Mate 8 General] h4ni:
Tried from twrp wipped everything, data, delvik, cash system and continue give me faild , please advise
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
What about your phone model?

NXT-L09, NXT-L29, NXT-AL10, NXT-CL00, NXT-DL00 or NXT-TL00

Mentioned on back of your phone like this image:

​
[Mate 8 General] Zerobrine:
My phone model is NXT-L29 and my firmware in full is L29C432B320
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
My phone model is NXT-L29 and my firmware in full is L29C432B320
[Mate 8 General] Leo_83:
You have to do it separately
[Mate 8 General] rossrosh007:
Ok. Now i'm in a new annoying problem.

Rolled back from (L29C185) B560 EMUI 5.0 to B200 EMUI 4.0 - was not able to flash TWRP using SRK tool on B560.

Now it boots up into TWRP, but the touch is jumpy, too sensitive. If i touch a key (even quickly) it types in 15 times. Mostly the slide keeps jumping, cant slide all the way.

I tried flashing from older to newer versions of TWRP using command, successfully flashes, but can never get it to boot in TWRP with Volume Button UP + Power Button. It always shows empty black screen (backlight is on). Or it loads and gets stuck on "your device is unlocked and can't be trusted..booting etc"

Any help ?
[Mate 8 General] tlhkrnflr:
Hi guys. When Oreo come for Mate 8 ? Does anyone have information about it ? My Model Version is B560
[Mate 8 General] fernandp:
Hello,

I tried updating my Huawei Mate 8 after downloading and unzipping the Update.zip as described in Dload Method 2 above.

My phone did seem to install, but now I got a black screen with Type password to decrypt storage at the top, no way to type and EMERGENCY CALL at the bottom.

Any idea on what I should do next.

For your information: I replaced the motherboard with one from China and the build was 8.0.0 with NXT L09. Not sure if that would make a difference.

Thank you.

Fernand
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Upgrade Beta Version using HiSuite

Upgrade Beta Version using HiSuite

1-

Enable USB Debugging on your phone:

1.1- Open Settings> About phone

1.2- Then tap “Build number” seven times to enable Developer options.

1.3- Go back to Settings menu and now you'll be able to see “Developer options” there.

1.4- Tap it and turn on USB Debugging from the menu on the next screen.

1.5- Restart your phone

2-

Install HiSuite

2.1- Download HiSuite (http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html)

2.2- Install HiSuite on your Computer

3-

Connect your phone to HiSuite

4-

Go to Update>Switch to other version>Developer

You can see latest beta version NXT-XXXXXXXXX (Developer) XXXMB, like this:

5-

Click on Update

6-

:)
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Upgrade Beta Version using HiSuite

1-

Enable USB Debugging on your phone:

1.1- Open Settings> About phone

1.2- Then tap “Build number” seven times to enable Developer options.

1.3- Go back to Settings menu and now you'll be able to see “Developer options” there.

1.4- Tap it and turn on USB Debugging from the menu on the next screen.

1.5- Restart your phone

2-

Install HiSuite

2.1- Download HiSuite (http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html)

2.2- Install HiSuite on your Computer

3-

Connect your phone to HiSuite

4-

Go to Update>Switch to other version>Developer

You can see latest beta version NXT-XXXXXXXXX (Developer) XXXMB, like this:

5-

Click on Update

6-

:)
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Can you help a little bit more... I installed HiSuite connected my phone but when I click on update I dont have the option to choose Go to Update>Switch to other version>Developer
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
See attachment, and focus on red circle “Update”

:)
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
When I click on that button update this is what I get ....

I dont have the options like you do
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Can you check eRecovery? If eRecovery doesn't work, it's mean your phone have not installed regional firmware.
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
How to check that?
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Huawei eRecovery

1-

Power off your phone.

2-

Connect your phone with Computer (phone through the usb cable and computer connection, be sure to connect)

3-

While long press power button and the volume+ key (that is, the voice of the big tune), the long press time is generally about 10 seconds, of course, if you do not worry, More press will be all right, do not be too nervous ah. After about a minute or two there will be the eRecovery interface.
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
When I enter eRecovery I get this :
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
When you click on "Download latest version and recovery".

Connect with WiFi then...

Downloading or error

What's next result?
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Never clicked on that, should I?

What can happen?
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
When you click on "Download latest version and recovery".

Connect with WiFi then...

Downloading or error
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
I'll do it and I report back what happend.

---------- Post added at 08:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

When I click download and recovery it says gathering package info from server and after few seconds it says gathering package info failed.

Something is really wrong with my device :/
[Mate 8 General] analise:
You are not alone, i have the same exact problem. I flashed twrp, aparently, but i can't boot into it.
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
How did you do that, I mean flashing TWRP... I cant even unlock my bootloader because I cant register on the huawei site, my country is not listed. Dont know what to do anymore to upgrade to 7.0. I am so frustrated with huawei and there upgrade scheme. I will sell this phone and buy something else.
[Mate 8 General] KaRLiKCZ:
Root

Is there a way to root device? I tried install supersu again after 6.3 point, but it automatically restart device and device doesn't boot...
[Mate 8 General] h4ni:
Phone model NXT-L29c432b320
[Mate 8 General] KornHuelle:
Build-Number

Hi,

After i installed everything as you mentioned in the instructions i got The Build-Number NRD90M test-keys.

Not able to perform a factory reset, stops at round about 90%.

HiCare also tellin me i got the latest firmware.

Installed From NXT-L29B320.

But it is working everything so far.
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Root

Step by Step Guide

1.

Download files (supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip)

1.3- http://www.sillanwali.com/downloads/supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip

2-

Copy this file (supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip) into SD Card

3-

Download TWRP Recovery 3.0.2-0

http://sillanwali.com/downloads/twrp-3.0.2-0-next.img

4-

adb devices

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot flash recovery (PATH-TO)\twrp-3.0.2-0-next.img

5-

5.1- Reboot your phone to TWRP then choose Wipe > format > type Yes

5.2- Back again, then wipe (data, dalvik, cache, system)

5.3- Don't reboot after install

6-

Install

6.1- supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip (Don't reboot after install)

7-

Hope rooted

8-

:)
[Mate 8 General] cidarfrancisco:
Yo tuve que regresar a emui4 y volver a instalar. El orden de instalación es primero update.zip y luego hw.zip , 1 hora perdida por ese pequeño gran detalle... Y utilicé los links posteados en la página 5 de este foro.
[Mate 8 General] K4Y3R:
Maybe you should wait for the OFFICIAL release and for the ota over the updater app from huawei???

Dude just wait 2 weeks and youll have it without unlocking your bootloader
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
I read that the 7.0 update for the Mate 8 was released on January 6th. I dont know what they are doing maybe testing the software for bugs or something. I have to wait for the official release and update over the updater app.
[Mate 8 General] jbmc83:
yes, but that would be the chinese AL-10. other versions/regions lag behind. so just be a bit patient, im sure ull survive without nougat for a while longer :)

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
You are right
[Mate 8 General] analise:
NXT-L29
[Mate 8 General] hkbazzi:
can u do the dload method directly from the beta nougat?
[Mate 8 General] athenry:
Hello,

I am under NXT-L29NRD90M test-keys.

How do I need to install NXT-L29C432B560?
[Mate 8 General] mucha.k1994:
And what if I'm on AL10 but debranded to L29? Can I install this? Or back to AL10, nougat and after that debrand again? Some solution for me guys? :/
[Mate 8 General] analise:
FInally I managed to*Update to Nougat, the problem with twrp, was that i*had*the wrong version*because my version o miui was 4.0. After flashing the correct version*the Update worked.

Thanks.
[Mate 8 General] dexz:
Tested. All working fine except for developer options. It went to main screen every time I wanted to enter developer options.
[Mate 8 General] rhaspody:
can i use this on l29c185?
[Mate 8 General] hkbazzi:
1. back up all your data

2. make sure you're on stock nougat recovery (you are unless you tried to flash twrp to it)

3. Create a dload folder in the SD card not internal memory and copy any old marshmallow official firmware

4. turn off your phone, press the 3 buttons on the side all together

5. your phone will go into bootloop and eventually into erecovery

6. wipe the whole phone

7. reboot and start doing the steps provided in the nougat update thread
[Mate 8 General] woji:
Hello, please how update to this B560 versino?

I have L29C432B521-log, but i dont have TWRP installed.
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/how-to-install-nxt-l29c432b560-official-t3540042
[Mate 8 General] woji:
thx sillanwali, but after install TWRP 3.0.2.0 from link on B521-log, i cannot open him ... always open stock recovery

EDIT: when I tried downgrade to version 4.1 EMUI (B320), TWRP its OK, but I got the error 7
[Mate 8 General] Blackvz:
Can I also install it without rooting? Why do I need to root for that? I tried to put the update.zip in the dload folder and tried to install it. But didn't work yet.
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
<root>

<component>

<name>TCPU</name>

<compress>0</compress>

</component>

<vendorInfo name="common" subpath="" logfile="changelog.xml" package="update.zip"/>

<vendorInfo name="hw/eu" subpath="hw/eu" logfile="" package="update_full_hw_eu.zip"/>

<vendorInfo name="public" subpath="public" logfile="" package="update_data_full_public.zip"/>

<files>

<file>

<spath>changelog.xml</spath>

<dpath>changelog.xml</dpath>

<operation>c</operation>

<md5>FCDFE26569FAE25357D33BB3CAA2FA00</md5>

<size>44976</size>

</file>

<file>

<spath>update_full_hw_eu.zip</spath>

<dpath>update_full_hw_eu.zip</dpath>

<operation>c</operation>

<md5>22FF48D2C53166B200C949A7E822F1C1</md5>

<size>554919997</size>

</file>

<file>

<spath>update_data_full_public.zip</spath>

<dpath>update_data_full_public.zip</dpath>

<operation>c</operation>

<md5>5BE727220649A351BDECCFC3B6FD3242</md5>

<size>381762139</size>

</file>

<file>

<spath>update.zip</spath>

<dpath>update.zip</dpath>

<operation>c</operation>

<md5>4433A2C62C7B1D027D04379091670C33</md5>

<size>1488820572</size>

</file>

</files>

</root>
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/how-to-install-nxt-l09c432b560-official-t3542546
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
NFC added and working, not any issue.
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Stable

Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
How to install NXT-L09C432B560 (Official) Stock Firmware. (Guide with download links)

https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/how-to-install-nxt-l09c432b560-official-t3542546

Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
5.0 update

Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
1.

Download these 3 files (update.zip, update_full_hw_eu.zip, supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip)

1.1- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v73563/f1/full/update.zip

1.2- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...4/v73563/f1/full//hw/eu/update_full_hw_eu.zip

1.3- http://www.sillanwali.com/downloads/supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
5.1- Reboot your phone to TWRP then choose Wipe > format > type Yes

5.2- Back again, then wipe (data, dalvik, cache, system)

5.3- Don't reboot
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Download these files and follow the instruction on First Page

1.1- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v74104/f1/full/update.zip

1.2- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...04/v74104/f1/full/hw/eu/update_full_hw_eu.zip
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
I saw that the official OTA is releasing across europe.. I am waiting to get it through the updater app or HiSuite. But thanks for providing information on how to manually update
[Mate 8 General] p51d007:
Same here. Looks like "official" is starting to drop. I'm still on L29C185B180

With official so close, I'll just wait.
[Mate 8 General] xxlap1xx:
Wait, didn't you say it is beta in post #30?

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70614900&postcount=30
[Mate 8 General] amin318:
I want to debrand from c185 to l29c432 but i noticed that c432 cust folder is missing in my srk app,

Can anyone upload it for me please?
[Mate 8 General] baki_55:
The phone is not turned on. It stays on the opening screen.

After doing wipe, I uploaded it with order.

install

6.1- supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip (Do not reboot after install)

6.2- update_full_hw_eu.zip (Do not reboot after install)

6.3- update.zip (Reboot when success)

6.3 - Update.zip not installed. It gave an error. It is not loaded at all.

When you reboot, it stays in "boot".

The phone is not turned on. It stays on the opening screen.

Now what can I do.
[Mate 8 General] xTubi:
Hey everyone ... 1 Question .. Flash and Boot is all ok , but on my Build number now "NDR90M-test-keys"

and the Update button is hidden o0
[Mate 8 General] woji:
Thakns...but unfortunately - same problem...error 7.

I downloaded B560 from russian forum and install OK - but NFC problem with battery again :(

Now i am back to B521-log and still wait to new update....
[Mate 8 General] Mablung:
I have the Mate 8 with the 64 gb and 4 gb ram so the AL10 version. It came with the chinese stock firmware that I changed to L29C432B320 using the instructions in this forum. How would I have to update to nougat? Am I going to get it OTA or should I update manually? As far as I understood I should go back to AL10 stock then update to nougat and manually install the google apps manually. But I actually would really prefer to go with the official european B560. Is this possible?

Thank you.
[Mate 8 General] sharkonland:
Same here. I think this is some sort of a developer build, hence the keys in build name. Also likely the reason its the very latest available firmware.
[Mate 8 General] bluheart:
If you have test-keys then you need to flash the data file of your region once again
[Mate 8 General] NMonster69:
My build says NXT-L29C432B560
[Mate 8 General] mucha.k1994:
Good question. I have same problem and wait for someone reply who already test/try it. :)
[Mate 8 General] ronnie72:
Rollback to C432B192. Go to HiCare - tick Europe/Germany or Europe/Poland and update will be showing. :D
[Mate 8 General] Mablung:
Will try thank you ronnie72. :)
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Hi guys... I finally got the update C432B560. I rolled back my phone to EMUI 4.0 and over the HiCare App I got a notification for the update. So this is fastest method to get the download or you could wait to get it via Updater App or HiSuite.
[Mate 8 General] azleff:
Hi,

How did you rollback to EMUI 4.0 ?

Thanks

Jeremy
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Go to this website, it is on german but just translate to english and follow the instructions :

https://www.huaweiblog.de/downloads/mate-8-rollback-emui-4-1-auf-emui-4-0/
[Mate 8 General] xxlap1xx:
That's awesome. Do you know if OTA will work on a rooted phone? I'm currently running L29C636B211.
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Really dont know... Before I did the rollback I had C432B320 installed...
[Mate 8 General] xxlap1xx:
Ok. But isn't B320 supposed to be EMUI 4.1?

I'm thinking of flashing mine to your version.

Edit: Sorry I misread. Which version did you rolled back to?
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Yes, B320 is EMUI 4.1 but you can rollback if cant wait for the update to come over HiCare, Updater App or HiSuite programm...

I rolled back to 4.0 with the firmware C432B192 and got the update over the HiCare App
[Mate 8 General] Jesus1988:
Link for update_full_hw_eu.zip isn't working...

Can anyone upload it somewhere else please ?
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Link updated, go to first page and download.

Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] blackhead2048:
Is it possible to flash this on nxt-al10?
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
How to install NXT-AL10C17B573 (Official) Firmware. (Guide with download links)

https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/how-to-install-nxt-al10c17b573-official-t3543263

Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] pooya2ir:
i have NXT-L29C900 , how can i install this update ? need to change build , C900 To C432
[Mate 8 General] malicovjek:
Go to this website, it is on german but just translate to english and follow the instructions :

https://www.huaweiblog.de/downloads/...-auf-emui-4-0/
[Mate 8 General] franzyroy:
Perhaps a stupid question but... for this step. Is it possible to leave the bootloader unlocked? Or is it necessary to relock it?

Of course, if it's not necessary, I should make a manual factory reset.

Thanks!
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
No problem with unlocked bootloader. Just annoying at startup of phone. Once you got unlock code, you can unlock or relock any time.
[Mate 8 General] franzyroy:
Yes it's true but it doesn't disturb me.
[Mate 8 General] xxlap1xx:
Can anyone tell me if this version has the option to display the network speed on the notification panel?
[Mate 8 General] Tony66:
[MENTION=3005646]xxlap1xx[/MENTION] yes;) only in StatusBar
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
First Page updated.
[Mate 8 General] iceq9999:
I tried on B320 but can not uptaded....!
[Mate 8 General] sillanwali:
Step by Step Guide

1- Download these 3 files (update.zip, update_full_hw_eu.zip, supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip)

1.1- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v73563/f1/full/update.zip

1.2- http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...3563/f1/full/hw/eu/update_data_full_hw_eu.zip

1.3- http://www.sillanwali.com/downloads/supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip

2- Copy these 3 files (update.zip, update_full_hw_eu.zip, supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip) into SD Card

3- Download TWRP Recovery

http://sillanwali.com/downloads/twrp-3.0.3.img

4- Run into Fastboot (https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/fastboot-erecovery-recovery-upgrade-mode-t3543441)

adb devices

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot oem device-info

fastboot oem unlock ****************

To obtain bootloader unlock code, go to https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index

Huawei ID is the account you use to access all Huawei services.

Log in to your Huawei ID. Phone/Email. Password ********

fastboot flash recovery (PATH-TO)\twrp-3.0.3.img

5- Reboot into Recovery Mode (https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/general/fastboot-erecovery-recovery-upgrade-mode-t3543441)

5.1- Go to: Wipe > format > type Yes

5.2- Back again, then wipe> advance wipe> (data, dalvik, cache, system, internal data)

5.3- Don't reboot after wipe

6- Root & Firmware Installation

6.1- Install supersu_v2.79_sr2.zip (Don't reboot after install)

6.2- update_full_hw_eu.zip (Don't reboot after install)

ignore unmounting \cache, cust, system, userdata error

6.3- update.zip (Reboot when success)

ignore E:unknown command

7- Factory Reset & Relock Bootloader

7.1- Factory Reset after success 100%. After that you will get NXT-L29C432B560(Official) Firmware.

7.2- Run Fastboot Mode

fastboot oem relock ****************

7.3- Select yes from phone.

7.3- Your phone will be automatically Factory Reset.

8- Did I help you? A ''thanks :good:'' would be highly appreciated :)
[Mate 8 General] iceq9999:
Thanks, i saw it in the first post.
[Mate 8 General] miodowar:
Hi, I've got NXT-L29C432B320 and tried the download links from the first post as well as the Russian forum links but the installation is failing at around 30% through the DLOAD method 2. I do not want to unlock bootloader. Do you think there is any other way to install the update?

Also does anyone know the difference between NXT-L29C432B320 (mine) and NXT-L29C432B560 - the one which is updated? Thanks.
[Mate 8 General] Hamanu11:
Sorry for posting a clueless question.

Is this update the equivalent of an OTA update before one is rolled out automatically or does one need root for it?
[Mate 8 General] ronnie72:
Difference between NXT-L29C432B320 and NXT-L29C432B560 - B320 is Android 6.0, B560d is Android 7.0 (EMUI 5.0)

To get OTA to 7.0 you first need to downgrade to B180/B192. Then thru "HiCare", tick Europe/Germany or Europe/Poland and OTA will be available. :D

https://xdaforums.com/mate-8/help/downgrade-b320-to-b180-t3407412 and check for update.
[Mate 8 General] danterape:
I've flashed these two links (without root) via twrp from emui 4.1

and then i reboot and go into EMUI recovery and wipe cache and factory reset and boot and here we go, it works like a charm.

everything that you need ;)

thanks
[Mate 8 General] gthebest:
Dload Method 1, Dload Method 1, and Hisuite method not working for me. I'm in L29C432B192

Also nothing happen when i change region to Europe/Germany or Europe/Poland with the hicare
[Mate 8 General] franzyroy:
Sorry

I tried to install Nougat

I had read other tuto where there was another recovery, the 3.0.2. I've downloaded it. It's for info to my explanation below.

I followed this tuto (in the OP)

TWRP 3.0.3 DOESN'T WANT to work (start) for me, so I tried with the 3.0.2 already downloaded, it works... but when I wanted to install Nougat.

update_full_hw_eu.zip has put me an error, but not only "ignore unmounting \cache, cust, system, userdata error", I've this error and another issue.

same for update.zip.

My questions:

Why???

How can I do to avoid that?