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[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcd1182:
at this point i actually believe the bt chip in the kaiser to be identical to titan. the problem i have now is that the bt drivers tie to rilphone.dll, and the gsm-kaiser rilphone is in no way compatible with our cdma devices. i am actively working on something, though. not really looking too promising yet though. htc will probably have another rom out before i have drivers working.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
What an absolute mess!

I wish I could help more...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Dishe:
Strange that its so specific to Nissan BT vehicles. What rom are all you guys running?

As I mentioned earlier, I've got a sentra with an aftermarket Sony stereo that works FANTASTIC with the titan. It works as it should, and A2DP music sounds great.

Even car/headset that I've paired with works great, but then again I'm running a custom rom with the vogue BT drivers. I wonder what other devices don't work with the Nissan stereo?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
In case you had any doubt, internal pics of the Titan show TI's BRF6300 bt chip, and the xda-developer wiki shows the Kaiser to have the same.

Maybe the differences between CDMA and GSM make things too complicated? The newest CDMA device from HTC whose FCC internal pics (page 7) make the chips legible enough for me is the Libra, and they clearly show TI's WL1251 wlan chip. Maybe you'd have more luck with a driver from a CDMA rom? I can't tell which bt chip it's got, but if the same might it provide a better alternative than the GSM Kaiser's?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcd1182:
tnetw1251 is just my expirement in porting the kaiser drivers as it is a much smaller chunk to grab than the bt base. the wlan driver is a dll, some regs, and a firmware file. the only differences between titan and kaiser are the dll by a few bytes, and 2 reg keys. im missing something simple...point anyways is that i need to get this to work before i can even attempt something more complicated.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Just so we know, the 2.13 radio for the Titan (Vogue) shows no change is these symptoms.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] tyoung88:
I am having similiar issues with my XV6800 on a 2005 BMW 545i with iDrive. Pairing, Address Book Search, and calling work fine. I'm also able to see bt signal strength which is 3-4 bars.

While on a call the incoming caller sounds fine to me however everyone complains that they are unable to hear me... every other words seems to cut out... or it seems "choppy".
[Mogul, XV6800 General] allanak:
+1 unhappy 07 G35 w/ nav user. I will try the back to handset / back to BT swap later, but thats an ugly mess considering most people hang up by that time because they can't hear me when I answer the phone.

Edit: After upgrading to the new radio firmware and calling myself BT is no longer ridden with static. However, after placing a call to myself from my other cellphone, I couldn't hear myself talk through the car until going to handset and then going back to the car BT. Weak.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcd1182:
what radio?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
Yes, what radio? I have 2 xv6800's that don't work with my Altima '08. I would love to test this out.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] allanak:
I'm running your (dcd) latest kitchen and radio rom 2.13 from ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Titan/Radio_Roms/titan_2.13_CDMA.rar

Here's to hoping the 3.16.651.0 ROM which is supposedly going to be posted later on tonight will resolve this once and for all.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
No hope yet. Titan radio rom 3.27.00 with dcd's 2.0.0 beta rom didn't change the bt symptoms between my xv6800 and my G35 at all.

GPS kicks ass though!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcd1182:
lame. ill look at things tonight but.... would be nice if htc would just fix it :)

im sure this is not what you want to hear, but you guys have all opened complaints with htc and/or sprint, right?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Filing a complaint

For what it's worth, I just filed a complaint with HTC and Verizon.

The fastest way I found to do that...

-1.866.449.8358 for HTC tech support

-Give your mobile number but tell them you've got an unlocked Titan or they'll transfer you to your carrier's support.

-When asked about my issue I said, "When using the Titan's bluetooth with any '07+ Nissan/Infiniti w/nav, I can hear the other party but they can't hear me. The same issue was occurring with my unlocked Kaiser until HTC released the recent bluetooth patch. I'd like the same fix released for my Titan"

-I insisted HTC give me a tracking# for my call, so the rep had to at least pretend my complaint was being entered.

-*611 from the Titan for Verizon, option 3, option 1, option 2.

-Tell them you've already done multiple hard resets and a friend has had multiple device replacements (in case your account shows no device replacements), and now you'd like to file a complaint about a problem with the xv6800.

-I told them "When using the xv6800's bluetooth with any '07+ Nissan/Infiniti w/nav, I can hear the other party but they can't hear me."

-Again, I made sure I got a tracking#, mostly so I could feel like I was accomplishing something.

It was worth 5 minutes of my time.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] tiberiusva:
Actually even witht he patch from Decemeber I still have the same problems with a TyTn II on an 08 Altima. I think the fix they released only corrected drop call problems some people were having via BT.

Have you seen someone post that the patch fixed this issue?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Please see post #14 of this thread for a link to the guy on a G35 forum that reported that patch fixing the bt between his Kaiser and his G35. That's all I was going on, now I don't know what to think.

You may have sent my theory to the trash.

Did the Kaiser patch change anything for you? Do you think there's a chance the patch wasn't really applied?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] riDuh7:
One thing for sure that patch didn't do any thing for me and I'm from that forum as well.

I guess we just have to keep waiting on new rom from HTC.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
Has anyone had any luck with this? I still can't use my XV6800 with my Altima.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] flaskier99:
Actually it's not just isolated to Nissan/Infiniti. I have a Lexus IS with the exact same symptoms. The Mogul/Titan will connect but nothing after that. My wife's Moto Q and my son's LG rumor work perfectly, so it must be a problem with the Mogul.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] CjMcClane:
I dont feel like reading through the whole thread but my Mogul works decenly with my 07 altima (same as 08). The only problem is that when people call me and I anwer with the steering wheel the sound only comes out of the phone for the first 3-5 seconds and then the car bluetooth kicks in, pretty annoying. I have to say "hold on" whenever anyone calls and im in the car.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] riDuh7:
What version radio rom do you have?

And any updates people?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Does your 07 have navigation? People without nav have your experience, people with nav have a different problem.

For an update, the new bt drivers included in dcd's 2.3.1 kitchen show no improvement in bt with my 07 G35 w/nav.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] riDuh7:
Any update on this yet?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Sorry to say, but no change in my symptoms with dcd 3.0.0 rom :(.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] malbo1:
I am also in the same boat with my '07 G35S w/ NAV. I am on a Sprint Mogul (6800) and I have tried every ROM that Sprint has released with radio version of 1.32 1.40 1.47.00 1.47.01 3.27 3.35.04, have tried various dcd roms but all with no luck.

This is the first time I have seen the work around so I will give that a try. If you need a tester for new code, I definitely volunteer. My Samsung A920 works great in the car, but not the 6800.

As far as Infiniti having this phone "in testing", it has been under that status since June 07. Calling Infiniti, they could give me no updates.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] kenkudaki:
I also have an '07 Altima, without nav. Same problem here. I was hoping that flashing to DCD 3.0.1 would fix it FINALLY, but thanks to you guys my hopes have been dashed.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] carib909:
No bluetooth with Nissan Altima with NAV & Mogul!

I have an 07 Altima with Nav, and bluetooth never worked with any Rom! You can hear the caller, but they cannot hear you at all and the sound is garbled!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
The best known workaround (makes it usable) is posted earlier in this thread. That's all we've got at the moment.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] malbo1:
Bump for updates.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
Double bump.

I can't believe there is not a fix for this yet.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
I'd just like to say that this sucks, as I'll be ordering an '08 Altima 3.5SE w/ tech on Tuesday, and I have the XV6800.

I recently e-mailed UTStarcom asking about an update for Rev. A on the XV6800, and they said that they are "waiting for final approval from the carrier."

Hopefully this update would also have a fix for BT issues. Maybe I missed it in the previous 6 pages, but did the Mogul update (which activated GPS, Rev. A, etc) not have any positive effect on BT quality with the Altima?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] longlost:
It works perfectly with my Mercedes E320 bluetooth. I did not had any problem with either q or mogul or touch.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
Ive linked this thread over at www.nissanclub.com as well.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/ne...012-sprint-mogul-factory-nav.html#post3497613

Perhaps it can be refreshed with any news or trials.

I have yet to recieve my 08 altima hybrid but sure I will be visiting here again afterwards. Its loaded with Tech/Nav package
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Well in a way, I'm glad to know i'm not the only one who has this problem.

My friend has an 08 Alti with Nav, and I just got the Mogul last Thursday. The main reason I got it was to try out the BT for a trip. I didn't even think that it wouldn't work with the car, just figured it would.

To my surprise tho, I found this wasn't the case.

Same thing as everyone else, pairs up fine but nobody can hear what I'm saying and anything they say is all garbled and sounds terrible.

Has there been any updates at all on this? I cannot believe either nissan or HTC hasn't found a way to fix this yet?

Also has anyone else had problems with the phone disconnecting/reconnecting as you're driving? It kept doing it to me, I finally took the phone out of my pocket and put it in the cup holder, and it still did it.

Very frustrating.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
Since no one had answered my last question, have you installed the ROM update Version 3.35.651.2 that was posted in March? I had asked if that resolved the issue with the Altima BT, but if you've already installed it, then that already answers my question.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Since I just got the phone Thursday, I haven't loaded anything on it. but I just checked what ROM it has, and it came loaded with 3.35.651.2 released 2/22/08.

So the latest ROM does not fix the BT problem with the Altima BT.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
damn, then i have little hope for any update for Verizon offering a solution for this issue. then again, verizon would have to actually have to release an update. :rolleyes:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Well I wrote HTC about the problem, and I even told them that many, many people are having this exact same problem.

Anyone want to give this UTStarcom a call?

They are closed by the time I get home from work.

Here is the answer I got
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Just an update, no improvement using stock leaked Sprint 3.39 rom and radio.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
This is unfortunate news. I was hoping this was the radio update that would solve this unbelievable stale issue
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Yes I'm in shock that our phones don't work with this audio system.

I never even thought I would have to check to make sure that the BT would work with it. I heard so many great reviews of the phone, and it's been out for over a year now I think.

I just figured BT with the Nissan system wouldn't be a problem. It really seems they are just going to let this go, HTC doesn't want to address it.

Did anyone call the number that HTC gave me UTStarcom>

Toll-free: 1-800-229-1235 Direct: 631-233-3300 Hours of operation: 8:30 AM to 5:00 PM EST

By the time I get home they are closed.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
The UTStarcom guy I spoke with asked whether or not the Altima bluetooth system had noise cancellation. I wasn't aware that it did, so I told him no. He sounded like it was the first he had heard about the problem.

I would recommend that more people start calling and e-mailing UTStarcom (repeatedly if necessary), since they won't start working on a fix until they get enough calls or e-mails.

UPDATE: After a few times back and forth with UTStarcom, they sent me a link for a document showing XV6800 compatibility. Obviously the Altima isn't listed, but if this is the full list of vehicles that the XV6800 works with, then that is just ridiculous: http://support.vzw.com/pdf/bluetooth_car_kit/VZW_XV6800.pdf
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
Sorry for the back to back posts, but after about the 10th time back and forth yesterday with UTStarcom tech support, I received the following response from UTStarcom about 10 minutes ago (pertaining directly to the XV6800):

The question remains whether the official release of 6.1 will correct bluetooth issues, which many blame on Microsoft's WM6 OS.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Your response is more hopeful then the one I got, they just told me to download the latest ROM.

I think everyone else having this issue should continue to contact them about it, the more people who are complaining the better chance of this getting fixed.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
Has anyone else contacted them about this problem?

The more that do, the better the chance they might fix it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
Has anyone tried this again after upgrading to the official Sprint 3.42.02 radio and dcd 3.20?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
vancelot,

NAH 08 here and 6800 VZW variety. I have done both of the newest radios . the one with the official 6.1 update from DCD and the other from the vogue ported to the 6800 (higher revision) We are still being screwed to the wall.

My 6700 works fantastic with the Factory NAV....My 6800 does not still.

This smells like S&*^t by the way. Im ready for the 6900 i think .

I did a registry comparision with the 6700 as well and its not going to be this easy i dont think.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
Questions for th Peanut Gallery??

In the situation we are with the 6800s and the altimas/infiniti

Would you take a 6900 on a customer service swap from your carrier if granted at this point?

I think I am heading this direction. I would miss the keyboard though ...The extra memory would be welcomed though. It sucks because I bought the siedo rubber wrap for the 6800 too.

Hmm.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
I'm starting to get a little irritated with this phone and the Bluetooth.

Does it work with anything?

I was thinking of getting an Eclipse nav unit for my 4Runner since they will hook right up to the factory wiring.

Well the Eclipse units are Parrot Bluetooth ready. so I got to Parrot's website, and phone compatibility sheet. Go to HTC, and the mogul isn't there!!

the whole reason I got this phone, was to replace my old phone that didn't have bluetooth.

Everyone that has one of these phones needs to start complaining to both sprint and HTC. We can't let them just ignore these issues with this phone.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
I don't know if I would upgrade, do we know for sure the 6900 will even work?

I bought the invisibleshield for mine, so I would have to buy another set again if I changed out phones.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
We can either sit and wait or create or own destiny i suppose.

I was able to successfully strip the BT drivers from the vogue and place them onto the 6800 via the kitchen. Rebuild the rar file and flash to the 6800. BT appears to pair and function just fine, BUT the garbling is still present. Im not sure I got all the drivers and registry entries present.

All I can say is I know enough to be dangerous and Im trying I really am. If it is as simple as this we could be in for a treat later on.

For now though, I am re-producing the same issues with the altima nav BT.

Im never seen anyone here with the 6900 complaining nor on the htcwiki, I just assumed it work and thought i read it elsewhere. Anyone confirm the 6900 works with these nav units. ?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Hi, were you testing with the altima? Was the party you called able to hear you at all?

This would be a positive step.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
yes i was.

I am using the radio from the vogue ported to the 6800.

I pulled out all the dlls and bluetooth settings files in the vogue rom and rebuilt on the 6800.

It works boys & girls , BUT the garbling is still present.

Anyone have the BT registry entries from the vogue that they can export?

We also need someone to confirm the 6900 stock or kitchen roms work with the altima. (Factory Navigation Customers Only)

Thanks.

Im flashing my apache to 6.1 to look at some things as well even though they are different BT chipsets.

I think it was on 6 when i upgraded to the 6800.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] BK111968:
My parents just an 08 Altima about a month ago and I noticed the same thing with my XV-6800 BUT I noticed that thier Samsung (regular cellphones - SCH890's - I think) also have the same problem.

A friend of mine has a Motorola E815 with Chrysler's UConnect and he sounds like he's on the cellphone instead of the bluetooth connection.

I also think it's a problem with the auto manufacturer's bluetooth version.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
the apache BT drivers and .dlls work with the 6800 as well.

Pairs and works. Garbled sound .....OH Yea it still present.

I think I will end this adventure early.

Truth be told I dont even know what Im doing but I tried.

Its fairly easy to prep dinner in two kitchens and mix up the ingredients a little.

I tried both the vouge and the apache drivers on the 6800.

To recap, both work but the garbling noise on innitial connect is still with us.

Have at it if you can think of anything better. At first I thought well made the 6900 has these issues too. Still waiting on confirmation of someone who has one and the altima /g35/37 nav system without HD options.

FOr now I am letting it die and I may just decommission my 6800 for a while till its resolved. Not sure yet.

It truely does suck though and it appears neither HTC or NISSAN is concerned.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FZ1:
Sorry to hear you've reached the end of your rope.

Do you happen to have a .nbh lying around with your modifications?

Do you remember which vogue radio you were using?

Your find is still an improvement to the titan, I'd love to test with an '07 G35 w/nav.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
I did this with the newest kitchen. 19883 or something i think.

Just download it for botht he vogue and the titan as well as the titan. The kitchen will give you everything you need.

The new kitchen has common files and specific device files devided into folders. Makes it even easier.

I didnt save to nbh.

Its easy enough too look through and grab anything with BT or csr.dll in it as well as some of the BT preference files.

Im stumped perhaps you can have some fun with my findings.

I used the latest radio revision .

3.42.30

thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
lastest I got from Sprint regarding this

I sent their technical support another email, and here is what I got back.

Anyone know what the profile the Nissan nav uses?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
Well, according to the Nissan Customer Care rep I just spoke with, she said that the XV6800/Mogul will

NEVER

be compatible with the 2008 Altima.

I thought that was a bold statement for them to make.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cdoyle:
I just emailed both Eclipse and Parrot (want to put a Eclipse nav in my 4Runner) to see if the Mogul works with their units. It better.

What is the deal with this phone? It was Sprint's top of the line phone, and now that I bought it, it's looking like it's BT isn't compatible with anything that I want.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] JReb22:
Any new news on this problem? I have *****ed my head off to Verizon (both the "tech" guy at the store and tech support on the phone), but Verizon seems to have no interest in any fix. Nissan's only response is to tell me to choose a phone on their compatable list...go figr.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] nc88keyz:
originally posted right here on xda....

perhaps bluetooth profile updates is what we need.

Originally Posted by kashabrown

This was posted over at XDA - should help all of us Big Red owners:

"Hello all,

Spoke with a few people today from UTStarcom and Verizon and got quite a bit of information about this long awaited update. Figured I'd share with you.

Called UTStarcom and spoke with Orlando, an engineer with them. He forwarded an internal memo to me (I can't post it on here, don't bother asking). I can tell you what was in it though.

The update is complete and was received by Verizon mid June.

Rom version number is 3.36.605.0. I know a lot of you are going to say "but we already have 3.56 blah blah", but those are Sprint updates and just because the version number is different, doesn't mean it's not newer.

The update addresses the following (straight from the memo):

-Update to Windows Mobile 6.1

-Update to EVDO Rev. A

-Update location based services (GPS)

-Update bluetooth profiles

Update is complete on their end, waiting on Verizon to give the go ahead. He said he would speak to his superiors and find more info and for me to call back Thursday (he gave me his extension).

I called Verizon and spoke to Wes, a WDTS Tier 3 Tech.

He confirmed what Orlando told me. The completed update was received by Verizon and has been in final testing. The last update he had was July 3, been in testing for a while with no problems. Projected release set for end of the month/early August.

He also told me it's been so long due to the fact that they decided to add WM 6.1 (previously it was only expected to address EVDO Rev A / GPS)"

looks to be promissing.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
That is great news. Any chance that a leaked version will find it's way here?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
Unfortunately, I don't believe the same ROM update for the Sprint Mogul improved BT functionality between the Mogul and Altima. We'll see what happens when the Verizon update comes out. Fingers crossed.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
Now that HTC has reposted the update for the Sprint Mogul (for those of you who don't know, it was taken off the site for quite a while), it'll be interesting to see whether any changes they made, have a positive effect on BT in the Altima.

It's interesting that Sprint doesn't mention enhancements to bluetooth profiles for their ROM update, while Verizon has unofficially mentioned it on several occassions.

Still waiting for the update for the XV6800 on my end though.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ckeegan:
First of all, it's sad that I'm the only one still posting here. Has everyone else found a resolution to their Mogul/XV6800/Altima bluetooth problem, and I'm just not aware of it???

Anyway, as most of you know by now, Verizon's WM6.1 update is on the UTStarcom website. I've successfully installed the update, and I hate to say it, but it had no impact whatsoever on my ability to send or receive calls with my XV6800 and '08 Altima w/ nav.

I am under the impression that the Mogul ROM update did have a positive effect, so what the hell is with Verizon's update??? I seriously thought the conflict was occuring with WM6, but apparently not.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vancelot:
Dang it. I was really hoping this update would fix it. I have pretty much given up on this, unless GC and DCD can pull a rabbit out of the hat.