[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I agree we, are all here to provide positive and helpful information that is not provided by the makers of the devices for their gains at their customers loss " US ".

The majority of us are not technically incline "is not a trait of a regular human" and is a good thing not to be a robot.

The basic of any electronic or anything that works with a battery, the simplest example " a car ".

If the driver do not turn off the lights or just leave the door semi open when out of the vehicle and engine off ( there is no deep sleep or stand by feature to start the car faster) , the battery will drain. You will not be able to start it again, the car is not broken or "bricked". By doing a jump start and charging it, everything goes back to normal. But if the driver keeps doing the same mistake, the battery will be damage even if it is 1 month old. And if the driver does not drive the car at least once a week and is left in a garage for 6 months with no use, it may not start. But is not broken or " bricked ". If after charging the battery it will not start then it could be the stater or plugs or many things, but the fundamental to trouble shoot begins with a good working battery, even to get the ODBII codes from ECU. Once we all learn how to maintain a battery we will not be stranded or asking for help, but still happens, there are exemptions and we are here to help each others out no matter what. But I wonder that after so many years, cars manufactures have not implemented a feature to guarantee the "last start" and get a warning about it. If car is off and anything is draining the battery then cut off all electricity to have a "last start", it should be the standard feature from many years ago. But now you have the opposite, as soon as you turn the keys, headlight comes on, all electronics comes to live! almost impossible to do a jump start with all that power consumption. The example that you pointed out about jSullins putting a warning is good example. But he had to do that not because the device was shutting down dead or defective, but for the people that did not know how a tablet worked. We have to understand how all this came to be and there is too many mistakes. WebOS was and is a great OS that was implemented on smartphone. People had them all day long and were constantly looking at it and knew if it needs charge, just as today. Then the tablets started to come to the masses and promised to replace PC for ever. Offer what a PC can do but better, provide mobility and no need to be attached to a wall outlet. All sounded good but as anything that is new, there is a learning curve in society and humans need to start learning how to use an oversize smartphone and keeping it charge, (responsibility).

There is difference on just pressing the power key: (Short: Stand by (deep Sleep) ( Long press: option to really turn it off ). People thought that just because the screen was off the tablet was not using any power, do you think everyone knew that? The tablets were left without use on stand by for weeks, do you think the battery will hold that long? Then you have all the trick of pressing keys combination to hard reset, was everyone aware?

It was the first generation and last to market with the manufacture not providing much support, but developers took over and it has lasted more than any one could imaging. If the battery were of bad quality none of them will be functioning, but from my experience the batteries are impressive and extremely well built. I never were part of those forums, I got my first 32 TB the same day of the fire sale. From the beginning was overclocking the kernel in WebOS, running Android and then LuneOS all in one TP. I always keep it charge and when not in use is OFF not in deep sleep. That is the key, charging when daily use or OFF and put away. I have kept the tablet full charge and off for almost a year and the battery does not drain. I have others that has been ON 24 / 7 for years of heavy use until now on a touchstone charger with no issues and keep going. I come to the forum to help other and give my advice from many years of using the device and trouble shooting it. It is old, heavy, slow at times, but a great learning tool that can have many uses.

If the battery finally die and you do not want to spend $20 on a replacement, then remove the battery and use it directly from the AC , until something burn out and officially get the name of a "Bricked TP"

All sort of hidden mysteries, this is another one. I will have to try it out when times comes!

1 Hold power button and push home button 10 times. This put the Touchpad into a low power mode.

2 Now Hold the volume up and the power buttons until the battery icon and plug symbol show up (10 seconds) plug your touchpad in with the wall charger.

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