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[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Correct !

Plus you have many Operating System to choose from, even the latest.

You can tweak it anyway you want, everything is open.

The battery is of superior quality, unbelievable how good it is after all this years, it can hold charge almost up to a year from not been use and still comes back on if fully drained.

And the most important, it can not be brick, even if you try your best!
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...h=item4b541d20cd:g:TRkAAOSw-GNb3xp7:rk:2:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...h=item363eebfa85:g:d30AAOSw1tNbrm7B:rk:3:pf:0

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NT

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You must have forgotten about all of J.C. Sullin's work on his tools for debricking the TouchPad. Unfortunately most of that has been lost because his debricking thread was maintained on Rootzwiki which I don't know if it even exists anymore and if it does if you can even get in to it. There are TouchPads out there that seem to have a propensity to brick if you let them get too low on battery charge too often. Some of these less tried and true builds have battery drain rates that can catch you off guard and drain the battery down to zero before you realize it.

And just an FYI about storing your beloved TP. Battery manufacturers recommend before storing, drain the battery down to around 50% before putting it away.

And just for the record, I have two working TouchPads and prefer the steady and stable Sullin's CM11. I did a lot of testing back in the day, but that just got to be to much flashing, reflashing, switching builds looking for that "Holy Grail".

NT
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
And just for the record, I have two working TouchPads and prefer the steady and stable Sullin's CM11. I did a lot of testing back in the day, but that just got to be to much flashing, reflashing, switching builds looking for that "Holy Grail".

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The HOLY GRAIL is just about to be release ! And is all from the developers on this forum.

One touch and the HP Touchpad will fly out of your had at a speed of light.

As you know it, is all about the "CODE" or the proper use of software (settings). You can have the best hardware, but with the wrong settings will be worthless, or you have an a very old hardware with optimized code and it will make miracles! and that is why forums like this help, of optimizing devices that will outperform companies settings to make them disposables for their own profits.

I have revived more than 15 hp touchpads from completely dead battery. No need to use any software to make them boot. If the battery does not supply electricity to cpu it will not work no matter what software you try to run on it. Even batteries that have expanded have come back on. You need to leave it charging for over a week, it all depends on the room temperature, the hotter the faster recharge.

A lot of thanks to J.C. Sullin's for his work and the TooBox, which is everywhere there is an HP TOUCHPAD with a charge battery!
[TouchPad General] g.s:
Honestly, I'd wipe the device over again and start from scratch again. Are you sure your partitions are the correct sizes? I used [MENTION=5601980]StOrmCatz[/MENTION] recommended cm-cache size of 400 MB and cm-system at 1824 MB.

I installed the lineage-14.1-20180906-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin build by [MENTION=2735699]jshafer817[/MENTION], and I haven't seen my HP touchpad this smooth since the kitkat days. I also used the same TWRP version as you, and a pico build of the open_gapps. (open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20181106)

I also had the same problems you had described with unresponsiveness, no response to touches, a settings menu that never loads, random app crashes, slow web browsing, and app freezes with the everolv 7.1.2 nougat ROMS. I thought that I'd have to downgrade to a kitkat ROM, but after wiping WebOS and the everolv 7.1.2 ROM out and replacing it with only [MENTION=2735699]jshafer817[/MENTION] 's build from 2018-09-06, things have been great. I followed one of the touchpad installation guides, BUT i did not install a TPtoolbox compatible ROM first. Instead I used the doublestuff installer to boot to a compatible TWRP version, and then loaded the 2018-09-06 ROM, updated TWRP version, and open_gapps.

I can finally browse webpages with the web browser again, AND watch netflix, while switching back to the browser quickly. Youtube runs great, and I can also listen to tunein radio without it randomly buffering or stopping.

If you're interested, I can probably post a video of the HP touchpad's performance with the 2018-09-06 ROM, so that you can get an idea of how it works.
[TouchPad General] Geomatic:
[MENTION=4379851]g.s[/MENTION], thanks for your review. What about Bluetooth? Does it persistently pair (i.e. also after reboot) e.g. with a Bluetooth loudspeaker?

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[TouchPad General] chris5s:
Thanks for the reply. I have a couple of TPs so may try again with jschafer's build. It's worth a shot!

Peace
[TouchPad General] g.s:
I just tried pairing it with my bluetooth speaker and it didn't work. It complained about an incorrect PIN or passkey. Strange.
[TouchPad General] g.s:
[MENTION=2735699]jshafer817[/MENTION]

Wonderful job on the ROM btw. Just wondering, is there a way you can post your ROM on github? I want to see if I can fix the bluetooth issues..
[TouchPad General] jshafer817:
Try this:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l5krubtRrz0Yz87AvAj2JZrZjVf3_JRq

There are a lot of patches... a lot.
[TouchPad General] g.s:
Awesome man! I'll try to take a look into this in the next few weeks.
[TouchPad General] samgu:
That's the same ROM file, available in the other Google drive link?
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
I have revived more than 15 hp touchpads from completely dead battery. No need to use any software to make them boot. If the battery does not supply electricity to cpu it will not work no matter what software you try to run on it. Even batteries that have expanded have come back on. You need to leave it charging for over a week, it all depends on the room temperature, the hotter the faster recharge.

A lot of thanks to J.C. Sullin's for his work and the TooBox, which is everywhere there is an HP TOUCHPAD with a charge battery![/QUOTE]

You have to remember, there is a big difference between a TouchPad that needs a little coaxing to get it charging again and one that is "Bricked" and no matter how much you charge it will not boot. If you have never had the chance to read Sullin's Debricking thread, then you won't understand how a "Bricked" TouchPad behaves versus one that just needs help getting it to start charging again. Bricked TouchPads definitely were an issue. Sullin's thread had close to a million views and thousands of posts.

NT
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
You have to remember, there is a big difference between a TouchPad that needs a little coaxing to get it charging again and one that is "Bricked" and no matter how much you charge it will not boot. If you have never had the chance to read Sullin's Debricking thread, then you won't understand how a "Bricked" TouchPad behaves versus one that just needs help getting it to start charging again. Bricked TouchPads definitely were an issue. Sullin's thread had close to a million views and thousands of posts.

NT[/QUOTE]

The only way a Touchpad can be "Bricked" is due to severe physical damage, but not by misconfiguration of software.

Thanks to all developers that have provided the software to change and tweak the boot-loader (it only needs to boot into an uImage file and is all good!

In reference to the battery, the damage is created by the user for not properly maintaining and not knowing what to do. The consumers are not giving the correct information by the manufactures of the devices, to make them ignorant and take advantage. Any battery if not properly maintain will suffer degradation to become a "brick".

To boot the tablet that the battery has been drain completely for years do the following:

1. Make sure you have the authentic HP charger. ( A lot of people loose the charger and use anything that plugs in )

2. The room temperature has to be above 80f, you can cover it to keep it warm. ( Is not going to charge in the cold )

3. If you plug in the charger and the Home bottom LED is moving from side to side you have 100% chance of survival. ( leave it charging in the same room temperature) it could take a week.

4. If the LED does not come on, then do the following:

From time to time: unplug the charger from the wall and plug it back in ( Intermittent ) do that 10 times from time to time. Every time you plug in the charger the battery takes extra electricity that it would not do when connected all the time ( is like a BOOST of electricity ). You can do that as many times you can during the day. ( but all time needs to be plug in ) Then the LED will come on, leave it until it boots.

5. Now is time for the MAGIC TOOLBOX from JSullins! Connect it to PC and run it. Update partitions flash the battery firmware and make it ready for Android and you have a brand new tablet!

( The charging tweak will work with any batteries ) I have been doing that to my 18v battery portable power tools for the past 15 years, while others replace them every couple of years. I will have mine for ever! )

Now how many users do you think that will follow the steps exactly?

<<<<----" KNOWLEDGE is Power-----">>>>> "ignorance will KILL You"<<<<<<
[TouchPad General] Geomatic:
I can 100% confirm the described method to revive an empty-bricked TP.

But in my experience a little bit more heat is helpful.

I put it on a radiator or use a hairdryer.(believe me or not)!

The problem is that this "pseudo brick" status occurs again and again.

Any hints?

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[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Thank you for sharing your "contrary to believed" experience but be careful what you say because I had to removed a recommendation from this forum about restoring a battery that expanded like a balloon that still works.

Yes think about it even after the battery is consider and label "dangerous and not useful" still working!

Once the tablet is working and properly charge with the correct charger, it will not go dead again, the term brick does not apply the electronics works, it just not have electricity from the battery.

The best way to keep it charge is on a wireless charger (Touchstone). Use it and then charge, do not let it drain.

If not going to be use for a while turn it off, if is on deep sleep for too long the battery will drain fast but not off.
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
The only way a Touchpad can be "Bricked" is due to severe physical damage, but not by misconfiguration of software.

Thanks to all developers that have provided the software to change and tweak the boot-loader (it only needs to boot into an uImage file and is all good!

In reference to the battery, the damage is created by the user for not properly maintaining and not knowing what to do. The consumers are not giving the correct information by the manufactures of the devices, to make them ignorant and take advantage. Any battery if not properly maintain will suffer degradation to become a "brick".

<<<<----" KNOWLEDGE is Power-----">>>>> "ignorance will KILL You"<<<<<<[/QUOTE]

So you are disavowing the work of J.C. Sullins and the thousands of TouchPad owners who used his debricking utility to get their TouchPads working? I see that you recently visited this thread: https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2126307. Did you even read through it? There were thousands of cases of TouchPads that showed some signs of life that no amount of charging, plugging and unplugging, heating/cooling or any other trick would get them working until Sullin's Debricking utility was used. Try reading post #32 in that thread. Of particular interest is the first paragraph:

jcsullins, on 30 Jan 2013 - 8:21 PM, said:

tpdebrick v004 by jcsullins

===========================

TPDebrick is a suite of programs and files used to "debrick"

HP Touchpads. This process should allow the revival of Touchpads

that cannot boot due to corrupted raw partitions, corrupted bootloaders

or corrupted A6 firmware. Note that this should allow you to get

into bootie (webOS) recovery mode. Additional steps may be needed

after to restore the bootie configuration or OS (i.e. webOS doctor).

NT
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Let's clarify a few of your's and my statements. In post #241 you said, " And the most important, it can not be brick, even if you try your best!" In post #242 I pointed out that a TouchPad can become bricked and that is why J.C. Sullin's did all the work to create his "Debricking " utiity. I also pointed out in the same post that"There are TouchPads out there that seem to have a propensity to brick if you let them get too low on battery charge too often." I did not say all TouchPads will become bricked if you let the battery discharge to low too often. You said in post #257, "But to make the claim that the HP Touchpad is a tablet that is prone to get bricked easily by just not charging it, is a false and misleading information. " It's too bad that you have never read Sullin's Debricking thread on the Rootzwiki forum or you would not make that statement. It was well documented in that thread that one of the factors of "SOME" TouchPads becoming bricked was letting them drain down to extremely low battery levels frequently. Sullin's even modified his Roms to show the battery level was approaching zero when in fact it was at 5 to 10% to hopefully prevent users from actually draining the battery down so low that the TouchPad automatically shut down. There where hundreds of pages and thousands of posts discussing and documenting this issue. So for you to blatantly state that a TouchPad cannot be bricked or that letting the battery drain down to zero is not a cause of of SOME TouchPads bricking, is misleading in it's own right. I have been fortunate to own several TouchPads that did not have the propensity to become bricked ever. But there are many hundreds who did participate in Sullin's Debricking thread who did attest to the fact they did own TouchPads that did "BRICK" for that very reason. I originally just started out to just point out that the possibility that the TouchPad can become bricked. My experience in this is being a participant in Sullin's thread for years. Too bad you weren't.

NT
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
All your advice about reviving a TouchPad from a low battery state serves well until even though a TouchPad still shows some sign of life, but when Power/Home/Volume UP are pressed and all one gets is the dreaded "?" symbol, instead of the beloved USB symbol, that is the sign that your TouchPad is bricked. No amount of charging would bring a TouchPad back from that state. But Mr. Sullins created his "Debricking" utility and this allowed users to get their TouchPads working again. The only thing I have disputed from the beginning of this conversation is your statement that a TouchPad cannot be "Bricked". I agree that it is up to the owner of a device to properly use and maintain it or pay the consequences. Have fun with your tablets as will I, however much longer they will last.

NT
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
To get the USB symbol you only press POWER + Volume (closer to power, left)

To hard reset the TP you press POWER + Volume (closer to home, right) + HOME

No matter what type of software you are trying to install, if you press the wrong keys, you are not going to get any results and then give a wrong diagnostics, ( a bricked TP )

Once the TP battery is at least 1% charge will boot. If the memory chip, Storage or any internal components are physically damage it will be bricked and not turn on at all.

I just posted this on the forum and hopefully it will help clear all this confusion of a bricked TP.

Take a look:

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hptouchpadbootsymbolsmeaning-t3867649
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
The point is regardless of which buttons you push, a bricked TouchPad does not have anything to do with damaged hardware or as you say, "If the memory chip, Storage or any internal components are physically damage it will be bricked and not turn on at all."

Once again I will quote Sullin's thread on what constitutes a bricked TouchPad:

"TPDebrick is a suite of programs and files used to "debrick"

HP Touchpads. This process should allow the revival of Touchpads

that cannot boot due to corrupted raw partitions, corrupted bootloaders

or corrupted A6 firmware."

Do you understand that when Sullins says "Bricked" he means "Will not boot"? It has nothing to do with damaged hardware!

Corrupted raw partitions, bootloaders and A6 firmware are not damaged hardware!!!! It's corrupted software that allows a device to function and if it becomes corrupted, the device won't work. Sullin's Debricking utility fixed the corruption and allowed the TouchPad to function again.

IF you had thoroughly read Sullin's thread, you would understand what the "?"(Question Mark) meant to a user who was trying to turn on their TouchPad.. It meant that their TouchPad had one or more corrupted raw partitions, bootloaders or A6 firmware which prevented their tablet from booting.

And BTW, Sullin's seems to think that" NOTE: If you can hold Power+Home+VolUP for 30 seconds and see a big USB symbol," gets you the big USB symbol.

And just to help you understand the symbol that TouchPad users were seeing that meant they could not boot their TouchPad because it was "BRICKED" I've attached it for you.

NT
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The point is regardless of which buttons you push

You mean that you expect a device to turn ON when you are pressing the OFF button?

POWER+Volume(right)+HOME ( Hard reset ) force OFF ( disable power ) Killer switch.

Once again I will quote Sullin's thread on what constitutes a bricked TouchPad:

I will post in details what the "TPDebrick" does and the ToolBox. ( To clear all this confusion and people spreading false information)

Do you understand that when Sullins says "Bricked" he means "Will not boot"? It has nothing to do with damaged hardware!

If you see any images like the battery with the question mark, the device already booted and detected a failure, No battery, bad or damage battery.

A symbol of an universal battery shape ( represents the battery inside the device)

Question mark : Something unanswered or unknown ( The boot process determined that could not detect a valid or good working battery.

Corrupted raw partitions, bootloaders and A6 firmware are not damaged hardware!!!! It's corrupted software that allows a device to function and if it becomes corrupted, the device won't work. Sullin's Debricking utility fixed the corruption and allowed the TouchPad to function again.

If you delete all the partitions on the device, or become corrupted you will get the other symbol at boot, which tells you to reinstall the ROM.

IF you had thoroughly read Sullin's thread, you would understand what the "?"(Question Mark) meant to a user who was trying to turn on their TouchPad.. It meant that their TouchPad had one or more corrupted raw partitions, bootloaders or A6 firmware which prevented their tablet from booting.

Pure ignorance, the TP is and will always be and behave as a WebOS device no matter what type of Android is install. As soon as you power up the TP, you are booting WebOS.

Read here from the 2009, way before the TB was release and maybe you understand.

Weird Battery symbol and plug with question mark

https://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-pre-plus/202334-weird-battery-symbol-plug-question-mark.html

And BTW, Sullin's seems to think that" NOTE: If you can hold Power+Home+VolUP for 30 seconds and see a big USB symbol," gets you the big USB symbol.

Is not Sullin's fault for all the mistakes companies do, like not providing in their hard copy product manual what the symbols at boot means, developers like Sullin do their best to help people with the information they have.

And just to help you understand the symbol that TouchPad users were seeing that meant they could not boot their TouchPad because it was "BRICKED" I've attached it for you.

I provided all those images, I have seem them all in real action by using the TP.

The fault for all the problems that people have with their devices, is the lack of information that the manufactures does not want the consumer to know. Is bricked, trashed it buy the new model and move on!
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Where are you from? It's pretty obvious the way you use the English language that English is not your first language. I'm guessing somewhere in Canada, probably Quebec. You don't seem to understand the difference between hardware failure and software corruption. You don't even understand that whatever OS is installed is what makes it the type of device it is. Remove the OS and it's just a useless device. Install WebOS, it's a WebOS device. Install Android, it's an Android device. Install Linux and it's a Linux device. Install LuneOS and it's a LuneOS device. What do you think a boot loader is? If's not an OS. It's what loads whatever OS you program it to install. In fact, HP accidentally sold several TouchPads with Android installed. So obviously they were experimenting with the idea of releasing it as an Android tablet. Too bad they decided to install WebOS instead. The TouchPad might have survived. And to prove what I am saying, go to this link and read the section on operating systems that have been installed on the HP TouchPad, not the HP WebOS TouchPad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_TouchPad#Operating_systems

J.C. Sullins proved with the release of TouchPad Toolbox that the TouchPad could in fact run Android as a stand alone OS without WebOS being installed just as HP did accidentally.

If developers had had access to the correct drivers for the TouchPad's hardware, it would have been an outstanding Android device, but they didn't so there was always a struggle to run Android on the TouchPad. You keep accusing me of spreading false information, did you ever think it just might be you who is the one spreading that false information?

NT
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
You must subscribe to the "If you can't dazzle them with your footwork, baffle them with your bull****" philosophy. It's been fun sparing with you, but I'm getting bored with it all and the B/S is getting too deep for my waders. Have fun with your unbrickable tablets. You both deserve each other.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
"A BRICKED Mind is the Mother of Ignorance"**

** My own generated and original quote, for those that only believe and accept what their own mind tells them.
[TouchPad General] DadBanJo:
Latest version??

Hallo all...

What is the latest version of this rom (lineage OS 14.1)??

There's a link earlier in the thread but it seems to be dead.

Many thanks in advance

JIm
[TouchPad General] StOrmCatz:
Latest version is the one I mentioned in my reply here
[TouchPad General] jcmorse563:
4.4.4 rom

I installed the basic rom, and it seems to be working well. However, all video streams are very laggy, also youtube app comes up with a half grey picture on videos. I enlarged the cache, and the media both to a 2 gigs when I set it up, on this 3rd time around, it made no difference. I also tried the 7.1 installs 2 from a clean install, in attempts to see if the newer rom would take care of the video lagg problem, both times I received the brechet?? stopped, and it would not go any further. I use it for school so if I can get the video to stream decent its good for me. Any ideas?
[TouchPad General] questionesse:
Say - there's nothing with an auto update built in, is it?

My parents are still sporting my old cyanogen'ed touchpad, been thinking if I should upgrade the thing, but on the other hand it's working...
[TouchPad General] nevertells2:
Follow the old saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

NT