yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Ric-:
And do you think making a million posts (not accusing you in specific of this behavior) about slow software updates on XDA qualifies as "customer feedback and engagement"?

I totally get your point, yes the updates could and should be faster, it's not like I'm going "HEY MAN, DON'T UPDATE MY PHONE FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS!" but just look at it from this perspective, When the first Nougat beta came out, while it was "daily-driver" material.. It was an absolute mess full of bugs. Now imagine if they had released that version as their official Nougat update... Every single galaxy s7/s7edge user would have gone BANANAS with the bugs, it would have been an absolute mess. Other phones get updates faster, yes, especially stock based ones because they barely have to do any coding. They get everything handed to them on a silver plate by Google. What do they need to do? Incorporate their drivers, build a kernel and pass a crappy software certification program that let's be honest, considering how many updates full of bugs land on Sony and Oneplus phones.. is absolutely useless. Samsung however, for better or worse, modifies basically every single aspect of the software.. That takes time. I don't believe they are purposely keeping their phones outdated for a couple of months just to screw with the users.

As for the security updates, I really can't say what's up with that, some regions get them just a couple of days after the Google release, some other regions get them a few weeks later and some other unlucky regions get them months later.. That I can agree that is messed up but still, it's not really something worth losing any sleep about. Besides don't forget that Samsung has extra layers of security that stock phones don't, so in most cases, certain security updates might not even affect us at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] N-way:
I only posted my original reply because I do think it is important for a vendor to release timely updates and upgrades for their devices. I think the current official ROM leaves much to be desired.

And actually, I was posting a "million posts" explaining why Samsung naturally takes longer to upgrade. However, Samsung sets itself up for an even tougher road with its million zones and software customization.

Just based on the number of issues I've seen on Samsung devices I don't think its software QC is better than any other manufacturer.

As for providing feedback, I did that through the official channels. However, I think the posting in these forums has value. This entire community is based around people who are unhappy with the "Stock" or "Vendor" software, post about it, and find workarounds and solutions.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] shaq1907:
Samsung Turkey said that we will get Android 7.0 Nougat on January 17. So this would be official release date for S7 in other countries too:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] heblu:
Can you please quote me when I said that I base my judgement ONLY on update?

Coz I did not. I said that S7 does not FEEL like a premium device.

Please read before post after 6 years such statement. We need around here VALUE into writings. Therefore, yes, it's weird that your FIRST post after 6 years is a comment about my thinking. I can be flattered too much :)

Not a nice thing to say I have a poor thinking just because I have a DIFFERENT point of view, isn't it? :)

Please learn to respect that, coz this is THE BASE OF A GOOD CONVERSATION and the only method of an EVOLUTION

Hope this helps you as a person :)

To get to the point, we have A RIGHT to complain about updates or anything else coz we earn it by paying a lot, wright?

Since you mentioned the hardware, yes, you're wright, it's (almost) the best. But my discussion was about software....

You or others can not agree we me, but ad some arguments :) Being a fanboy or something does not help into this, no?

But maybe I was not clear enough: I like my phone as an object and how it performs. That's why I bought it!

I just don't like how Sammy treat me as a customer, that what I meant by FEEL like premium.

Hardware division is nice, software not :) They never were, I just don't know why...

Yes, it needs a lot more coding since is not AOSP, but this was their decision, wright?

Looks like a maserati with a polished windows xp :)) (for those who do not understand the comparison, please ignore it)

Last, I really hope for us to accept others opinion or complaining, I want to enjoy here as I did on previous community on older phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Deadly1337:
I think it will be earlier for about 2 days on UK and Australia CSCs

i flashed the UK one to be ready . :victory:

P.S

Thanks for the related to topic comment btw.

any moderator here to check the other dudes complaining with each others ? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Let's try to be more civil gents and focus on the discussion rather than each other's personal thoughts.

Please remember everyone has their own views and it might be very different from others. Try to respect them rather than arguing.

Regards

Vatsal,

Forum Moderator.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] omeryounos:
Nougat Update expected on 17th January. Source: Sammobile
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] antoniskox:
Here you are

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/1...lease-for-europe-could-occur-on-january-17th/

Στάλθηκε από το SM-G930F μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] narenrata24:
I am desperately waiting for the official nougat ota because I am from India so i don't get any test of beta version and dying for

New grace Ux that feel like stock Google

New camera interface and also focus someware and adjust exposure different place
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fadelight:
At the risk of slightly deviating again... I keep seeing people mention 7.0 coming with a reboot option without having to have root.

Am I the only one with this? (6.0 bone stock non-rooted ATT)

Or split screen view, or answering texts directly from the drop down menu?

I'm totally pumped for 7.0, but the big selling points for this crowd seem to be features I already have.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
Everyone has reboot option since s1. Those guys were fighting because nexus phones never had reboot option before 7.0
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fadelight:
Ah, OK.

Either way, I'm psyched about the update. I just like new and shiney things. No particular reason for having them, but I am always chomping at the bit for updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pglickenhaus:
How will we all survive without that?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vazduh:
Great news. Samsung start sending out official Nougat already. Reported by Sammobile (source: https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/1...d-nougat-to-the-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge/)

*Edit: BTU already reported to receive the OTA update.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vladmir:
Anyone who got final nougt by tried to change the CSC?

Enviado do meu SM-G930F através de Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] violin.siva:
Register for FB beta since the beta ones reduces the problems with the new OS Intergration.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jeozme:
Good day.

What I recognized in nougat is, that I can't set an automatic energy saving at 10% as I could do in MM. Now I need to manually activate power save option when the warning shows up.

Is that the same with you guys?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
I taped check for updates 781 times now, do you think if I reach 1000 I'll get the update? I'm located in Romania, unlocked device bought from the Samsung store. Thanks! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lonewolf083:
Same here in France check update since 17 january and nothing
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
Don't think so. I have checked 1021 time already and nothing apart from false update available notification from Samsung once. But I'm from India so there may be some favouritism towards Europeans so you never know.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] blacklion33:
You can totally flash UK version with Odin:

https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G930F/

I flashed it on an unlocked Orange Romania version and everything works like a charm (flashed everything including CSC).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rigocalin:
*everything works: except VoLTE and VoWIFI right?

I could not get those to work..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
Thanks dude, i would like to keep the Romanian firmware though, as i don't want to void any warranty stuff. I know it will not trip knox but romanians are very good at canceling warranties for no reason :)

I'll try hitting update 2000 times, maybe that helps lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mozillaneo:
I have an unlocked S7 with XEU, I'm from the UK, still nothing...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
i tried adb get-nougat it didn't work

i then tried like you said adb get-nougat -use "European Favoritism"

the command returned "lol you Romanian scum"

What are the next steps? :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RS050377:
I flashed BTU firmware with HOME_CSC and Phone Info still shows ROM CSC as before. So no problem with warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rohorubo:
Still no OTA in Switzerland. What is going on? Can't take so long to roll out in other countries in Europe...7 days after BTU :(
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
keeping it safe after note 7. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] johnrangoo:
Cleanly flashed btu nougat days ago. Runtime is still awful :(

Android system is draining battery.

Check Screenshot. Sot 1,5 hours.

Any solutions apart from reinstall? View attachment 4017014
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] naudmick:
I have exactly the same problem !

Post here => https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s7/help/problem-doze-android-7-nougat-dplt-t3544655
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kemby13:
You call that a problem? I suggest you learn how to correctly read battery stats before you post. Nhf
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] naudmick:
Doze is not on the road! So for me there is a problem! With Android 6, doze walked very well.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ciprigeorgiu:
Nougat is out for France Orange. Hope it will get here too (Romania Vodafone).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Seven_PRX:
That's more than 19 hours battery time total, that's very good, you won't get more than that. Also android system at 10 isn't much at all
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
Nougat out for india. Downloading
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MirceaForce:
France still waiting damm.....only orange france get it ....

damm samsung dammmm
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
Pressed update 2000 times and now downloading it...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MirceaForce:
yeahhh india

europe still waiting France

dammm
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
Oh so it's actually Indian favoritism lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] dschmiddi:
Nougat VD2 in Germany is out now with Crystal Clear :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ciprigeorgiu:
"Crystal Clear"? What does that mean?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] dschmiddi:
It is like HD Voice but better says Vodafone
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jul84:
I just got 52hrs up-time and 4.5 hrs SOT with 4% battery left (S7 Exynos) so it can be much better than that.

I use the mid battery saving option all the time. I only activate -10% brightness and FHD screen but it seems to help already.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Seven_PRX:
Of course you *can* get a lot more than 19 hours, but, only if you turn down all kinds of stuff like you do.

Most people don't want to run their phone so much 'downgraded' basically, so we run without battery saver, screen at full brightness, performance mode, etc.

With that 'normal' operating mode, you're gonna run around 16-20 hours with normal use of the phone, not 52 hours :)

I's a choice: enjoy your phone with full speed, resolution, etc, but charge more - or, handicap your phone, but charge less.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kemby13:
He obviously has no idea what he's talking about, but ok... What can you do besides give your best to try to explain...

Currently official N is out for these regions: UK (BTU), UAE (united arab emirates), Czech (O2), Russia, India, France (Orange), Malasya. Just today Vodafone released N for Germany. I hope other countries will follow soon, so my guess is that by the end of February we should all have Nougat, at least the unbranded phones...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nicheuji:
For Malaysia, only the S7 Edge has 7.0 update but not yet for the S7 (flat)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MirceaForce:
France release date nougat :
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] luki2411:
Any news about xeo poland ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] droidcol:
I had not noticed this until now, really cool. What other apps add buttons to the quick settings panel?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] schnitzelbrain:
Could be a good guess. Still nothing on an unbranded German S7.

The net providers pay allot for being first I think.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] medmansri:
Nothing for 930U either in the US.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] inaroundroom:
My usage of the S7 is limited to just voice calls, WhatsApp & Email and I've so far gotten 28hrs.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tliebeck:
I don't have access to an S7/S7 Edge with Nougat and would greatly appreciate if someone with it could run a quick test for me to help with my app development:

Open a Terminal Emulator app, type "top".

Post a screenshot.

Note this has to be done with a terminal emulator app....using ADB will provide incorrect information (the ADB "shell" user has more privileges than a normal app user). Additionally, DON'T use root. I want to see what a normal app user can see.

Thanks much!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] omrij:
View attachment 4020086
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mimo2008:
Hi all im currently on vodafone but confused on what build I'm on someone said I'm on the Spanish build but I'm not so sure here is a picture of my build. Also what do I need to do to flash btu I'm not worried about wifi calling. Thx
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jeozme:
for me it looks like south african vodafone .... just go to sammobile and compare your numbers ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mimo2008:
I have been to sammobile but both UK and Spain have same number
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jeozme:
now I see your problem ... if I had scrolled down I would have seen before ... sorry!

I don't know how to figure it out :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Frankie73:
It's a shame that carrier supported phones get nougat before unlocked, full price phones. Still nothing here in Austria:( Come on Samsung!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DekkerP6:
Show us the CSC code page. If the CSC is ATL then it is indeed Spain Vodafone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mimo2008:
Hi this is baseband
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DekkerP6:
You obviously have a Vodafone UK rom. You have plenty of tutorials here on XDA to tell you how to flash Nougat for BTU. Or you could wait a few days.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] danydeco:
Nothing in Portugal yet. It's taking ages :/
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kwchan98:
I just flashed the nougat ROM which downloaded from sammobile, but I found that it is missing the "screenshot" button for capture the screen in quick setting, is this normal? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
Just finished talking to support guys from Romania. They assured me the update is coming one of these days, latest next week. So yeah.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MirceaForce:
also in france same answer but let see it practically....

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rohorubo:
guess that is Samsung general answer. In Switzerland the same..."in the next days"....
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mimo2008:
Has anyone in Germany got the update from Vodafone
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] poli8:
Unlocked?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
Yes, bought straight from the samsung store.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] poli8:
Just out of curiosity, is your CSC ROM? I bought mine from mediagalaxy and I am wondering if you have a different code.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
Hope this helps.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seadersn:
install terminal emulator and type

getprop ro.csc.sales_code

in it; or via adb

adb shell getprop ro.csc.sales_code

it should display the evil answer directly ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MirceaForce:
it's the same rom
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seanie2322:
I'm in Ireland but bought my s7 unlocked new off a shop in Germany still no sign of nougat on dbt
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ce.pratas:
Where did you buy it?

Comprei o meu numa loja Samsung e ainda nada..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] danydeco:
Comprei na Vodafone, ainda devo ter de esperar mais que tu. Mas já saiu em alguns pa
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] smach31:
no nougat for canada samsung hate us
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] medmansri:
Germany (vodafone) just went live.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ce.pratas:
Pois, eu sei.. É uma estupidez esta política de updates.. Qual é o sentido de ter já ter saído na Rep. Checa há umas 2 semanas? Só se estiverem à espera de Feedback.. Mas então para que serviu o Samsung beta program? Enfim..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seadersn:
stuff like talking about things in different languages than english is better done via private message; or simply, switch to english, pls :)

dbt germany, when are you arriving...?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] clioke16v:
Belgium here with a German vodaphone version. Updated 2 days ago.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G935F met Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] marshalex:
In the UK but still stuck on beta 5. Can't seem to find any way off it..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Flash the final with ODIN?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] marshalex:
Its currently looking like my only option unless samsung support can sort something.

I'm assuming that I can do this without losing any data? Any risks of going via that method?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
You won't lose anything unless you flash CSC (That resets the phone after the flash) use HOME_CSC and the other 3 parts, miss out CSC and you'll be golden

Always good to backup first before doing things like that though

But to be honest, coming from beta > final, I would advise a reset anyway
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] quizzmaster:
I got my S7 on Saturday and immediately got the update to Nougat. It's an unbranded phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jens1969:
CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] quizzmaster:
According to *#1234#: G930FVFG1DQAO

According to Phone Info: VD2
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Netbloom:
Then it's not unbranded. It's the Vodafone CSC of that we know Nougat is already released for.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] supercakefish:
Why is Vodafone getting the update and my XEU isn't? Very frustrating. Stuck on unstable beta software.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mimo2008:
I'm on vod in uk still ain't received the update yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
Wait for it. Samsung will release it once they are ready. Specially after note 7 they are taking things slow. We don't want them rushing updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sudaltsov:
I do not believe they are going to fix anything between different CSCs! They already released some of them, so the code is as good as it is now, for all CSCs.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Is it possible to downgrade/rollback to MM without losing data? How would that be done?

Not feeling N :(
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alex93917:
You can't downgrade. ODIN fails if you try.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Bollocks.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] schnitzelbrain:
I am still waiting for OTA to come.

What's wrong with N, mind to elaborate?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Battery not as good as MM for me

Lag in places that was not present in MM

Some screens have changed, prefer MM

YMMV but I prefer MM
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] munchy_cool:
lol..They have always been slow ..Note 7 has nothing to do with this ..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] awojtas:
And if there's a reason I'm six point oh

When so many have seven

Then I'm willing to wait for it, wait for it
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] munchy_cool:
are you sure? I have downgraded from BTU N to M using Odin..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Did you lose any data?

Were you on BTU previously?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] munchy_cool:
I was on BTU.. Went to N with home Csc and didn't loose any data... I would still backup just in case..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Cheers bud, will give it a go...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kireflow90:
So I have a question. I keep reading about the home CSC not resetting your phone. If I took it off of my phone and placed it into the OTA update where it's supposed to be then flashed it, would I be able to keep my data?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thorium666:
Hi,

is there a way to go back to 6.0.1 ? I can not root 7.0 without wipe, i would like to go back to 6.0.1 but without wipe.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonlad1:
Can you advise exact what you flashed in odin? BL/AP/CP/CSC?

I've got all 4 files plus a HOME_CSC file in the official stock MM firmware I downloaded....

Not sure which to flash without losing/wiping my data...

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Nope, you're gonna have to wipe either way

If you flash 6.0.1 without wiping, I expect big problems if it boots
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tampitzel:
I just talked to Samsung support in Romania again, since they said they will release it by the end of the month. They now said it will be released by the end of this month. I'm trying to keep calm but I really regret buying my S7. I think i'm going to go for the Lineage ROM and put up with the bugs.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mukki:
anyone in germany with free DBT version received the OTA update yet?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] munchy_cool:
CSC will wipe data

use HOME_CSC in CSC tab and it will not wipe data. Again make sure you have a backup.. sometimes downgrading can result in boot loops due to a rogue app or something..

Edit

read this

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70829388&postcount=916
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alex93917:
Oh so it's a good thing ! On my ex-S6, Odin failed every time for downgrade because BL restriction
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seadersn:
nope.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] borg17a:
Nope.