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[Nexus 6P Accessories] thesebastian:
I would try with some Huawei fake battery that cost less than 10€.

They are smaller than the stock one, some of them have a temp sensor...they last less than a brand new 6P with a new battery. But afaik they don't have early shutdown.

If you have early shutdown with more batteries then it's probably a hardware issue in you end.

Now If you stop having issues with others batteries then the Cameron Sino was bad.

To quickly check that the battery sensor is working what I did is run Dev check after being used the phone for a while...(so it was hot and probably throttling) 38C then I've put the phone on the fridge for 5 minutes and battery temp went down to 25C-26C:

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
Agreed, I'm not doubting that the CS battery you got was good, but in my case (and radionerd's) unfortunately we didn't get so lucky.

The lack of temperature sensor means that CS either:

Was fake

Was bad

Legit, but they changed suppliers

My phone is bad and can't read the battery properly.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] JUSTINMARMER:
I just got my Cameron Sino in the mail. I won't have time to install till this weekend though. Looks like I got the one with no gold. Just black and white. Came from Amazon. Hope it is legit. Attaching pics of front and back.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
Looks exactly like mine did. Hopefully you have better luck than I did.

Still, better than my old oem battery...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] enyce9:
I purchased my Cameron Sino from Amazon seller batterycentreus. Purchased in April and it had a temp sensor. No probs whatsoever since
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CYoung234:
I just installed my CS battery, from Amazon, via Power-Matic. So far, looks like it is stuck at 30c, so I will try charging again to see if the temp goes up or not. So far, seems like a quality battery. I forgot to reset Accubattery b4 the install, so I have done that and will watch the capacity to see how it does. So far, on this charge, it is at 76% with 1h 35m screen on time. Pretty light use, a little web browsing, some Whatsapp messages and listening to some music now.

The install just requires patience. Used a hair dryer, went through a few guitar picks and one old credit card and one playing card. The glass did not break, I did not scratch the case up, and even the plastic cover is in pretty good shape. I had a new eBay case and covers, but did not use them. I also have a $10 eBay battery for just in case. It should be a lot easier to take apart the next time!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
What's Cameron sino ,a type of battery
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CYoung234:
Yes, it is a brand of battery. He / they make one for the 6p. Not cheap compared to many, but it had been reported that they work very well and have the temperature sensor. Mine seems to work well, but does not appear to have the temp sensor. It does report 3399maH after the first charge though, so very close to the 3450 capacity...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thesebastian:
Have you tried what I did yesterday? Put the phone on the fridge 3 minutes battery temp should drop below 30C use Dev check app.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
So where can I order one ,any links for a UK buyer please
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CYoung234:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Sino-3450mAh-13-11Wh-Replacement/dp/B01JG5XE9S

Amazon UK

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I put it in the freezer for 10 minutes. Using either Accubattery, EXKM or DEv Check, it still says 30C. So, it does not seem to have the temp sensor.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thesebastian:
Yeah I agree. Btw Be careful with exposing it to so many minutes in the freezer. A few will do fine.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Born<ICs:
So, I received the cameron sino battery with the gold foil visible around the perimeter, is it the legit one?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
The color doesn't seem to be a differentiating feature.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iwearthebelt:
Thanks for mentioning that the LED on your replacement is very dim. I just replaced my digitizer/glass assembly, power/volume buttons, battery and bottom speaker. I bought the same digitizer as you and have the same problem we the LED, it's very dim to the point you can barely see it. Thought maybe I forgot to do something when reassembling.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DanielF50:
Thanks to this thread I went ahead and purchased a Cameron Sino battery from Amazon UK a couple of weeks ago & received it this morning, so went ahead and installed it.

Seems to be far better than my original battery thus far; no early shut down issues & (seems to?) shows the correct battery temperature. I'm on 6% atm and have seen 5hrs 28m SOT so far (see attached sure shots) - my original battery couldn't even handle 3hrs SOT anymore!

I'm extremely happy with this purchase - it feels like I've got my phone back again & now all I need to do buy a new OEM rear housing (to fix the bent volume rocker).
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
The ones with Gold around sides are a bit older than the total black ones, very similar though. Check the sn# from those of us that posted pictures.

My Gold seam CS has a resistor that reads about 70f or 25c

The total black ones have a resistor reporting about 86 f or 30c

Like I keep saying, "They saved a nickle" by substituting in a resistor that cost a fraction of a penny. Thermistors are pretty cheap too, "prolly about tree fitty", or a nickle ;)

If the battery has a real thermistor (temp sensor) the temperature will rise almost imeadiatly after being plugged into a fast charger. Like 5 or 10 degrees minimum jump. If it has a resistor (fake temp sensor) it will probably drop by about 1 degree Fahrenheit after being plugged into a fast charger.

My guess is that the original stock from CS (chicken Sh**) had a different number on the bottom. That number had GB/T 18287-2013 With a "T" at the beginning. Could the "T" indicate Temperature sensor??? maybe??? Did they get greedy and omit a part or two that can make the battery last longer? Be safer? Obviously!

I hope that CS didn't omit the other safety components, like thermal circuit breaker...

My Gold CS battery is lasting all day long, so I'm not butt hurt about the CS purchase, I just don't like being lied to by the vendor. I would have shopped for something else.

This is the picture I grabbed off of CS web site, note the number, bottom right side
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Yours has a nice thick ribbon too. They are selling the crap to US
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DanielF50:
Ribbon is quite thin thickness wise, but yeah, it is quite wide.

It also turns out the the temperature sensor doesn't work; I heated it up with a hair dryer and it only moved up by 0.2°c. Ive got to remove the back again to replace it, so I'll check for a thermistor and take some more photos when it's off.

I might see if I can get a replacement with a sensor as it doesn't seem safe that it doesnt have one?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] pezzku:
Just got my "Cameron Sino" battery from here: http://www.cellephone.de/en/cell-ph...or-huawei-angler-replaced-hb416683ecw/a-5844/

I can confirm it has no thermistor, instead there is a 8.2k resistor.

Was so disappointed that I pulled the wrapping off to see other protection features:

There seem to be no thermal protection components, just electrical protection (protection IC + MOSFET as best guess, short googling with part markings didn't yield much).

I don't consider this safe at all so not going to install it to my phone as is. My plan is to replace whole protection circuit with the one from original battery pack. Perhaps the cell in this CrapShoot battery is still usable?

TLDR:

I don't recommend these "newer batch" CS batteries at all. Based on my findings and latest reports from others in this thread.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
My new-batch CS battery is working fine, but lack of thermal protection has me nervous as well. I don't want a Note 7 situation (yes, different issues, but perhaps same end result) on my hands when I'm asleep.

I ordered the LOSONCOER battery mentioned a few pages back from AliExpress. I'll update when I receive it in probably a month. Shipping from China sucks... For $10 I figured it was worth a shot.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Wow they saved more than a nickel. No thermal breaker either. So CS batteries are Da bomb :-0
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Born<ICs:
Think I'll try for a replacement pixel XL rather than install suspect battery
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
Yeah, looking at Reddit, it appears Google is shipping Pixel XLs for RMAs on the 6P now.

Hmmm, wonder if they'd take my phone that's been opened...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wizardwiz:
Even at Reddit it seems that's true only for US google store phones.

So if you're from the states, by all do means.. give it a try.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] jijzietdezenaam:
Mine says it's at 80% in accubattery, but I don't believe it, I followed a guide here on XDA and he said that with about the same uses as me(I pmed him) he gets around 6-7H of SOT, I can get 4H at most.)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Born<ICs:
Chat through phone settings. 128gb XL in the mail. All I said was phone shutting down, battery degrade since M, downhill after N, and tried several resets. Beats trying to change battery
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Loccy:
I am not convinced about my CS battery either. It's probably been in my phone now for four months and while it gave me stellar performance when it was first installed it is now definitely going off the rails. I am getting noticeably poorer screen on and standby time. I've also had a few curious incidents where the battery percentage has got stuck and refused to go up or down for periods of hours, seemingly implying infinite battery! So, while I'm better off than I was with my original battery, the CS is not the miracle solution we hoped it'd be.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Spannaa:
I bought this battery nearly six months ago and it's still going strong.

Unfortunately, it's now out of stock, but this one looks like it's the same one.

Both have thick ribbon cables & temperature sensors and look exactly the same as the original.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
You have a bootleg Cameron Sino battery, you have to order from there site.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] spuri78:
Quick question guys. If i get a repair shop to install the battery for me, I don't need to buy anything else apart from the battery itself would I?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
No, unless they break something else getting to the battery, but I guess that would be on them to deal with.

A lot of people buy an extra glass visor for the back just in case that breaks during disassembly. I didn't need to use mine, but had one on hand just in case.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] JUSTINMARMER:
Well a buddy of mine was kind enough to loan me a heat gun so I went ahead and did the battery swap today. I'd call it a 95% success so far the only thing that went wrong is I did break the back glass no problem as I've gone ahead and ordered a new one for 9 bucks off Amazon and will be here in 2 days. The phone is pretty protected in a beetle case until then. I did take pictures of my Accu battery stats before the swap. I cleared the data and uninstalled the app and I've got it charging now after reinstalling the app. The battery already had a 50% charge to it when I turned it on. I'll post those results after a few Cycles. The worst part about this wasn't even breaking the back glass I kind of figured that was going to happen no big deal. The worst part was one tiny screw on that damn metal clamp over the ribbons. It was stripped out and I tried everything. I even put a rubber band over the screwdriver and that didn't work. I ended up just flipping the clamp up from the other side and swinging it around with the screw still in. Worked out fine. Few scratches on the bottom plastic cover. Again the phone is in a case so no big deal with that either.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Rashad83:
So is there a real better brand battery with thermal protection in the market?. By now I am considering going to HSC to do the replacement since all the batteries in the market are not a safe replacement.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iaom42:
So ordering from their site has been confirmed to be a good battery with temp sensor?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
There's new tech on batteries, its safer than using thermistor's. I checked my amazon order and it said it was fulfilled by Amazon. That's how you know you have 100% genuine product. I told the company on Amazon selling Cameron Sino batteries there was no thermistor in the battery or a thermal protection circuit. They replied back with this....(view photos)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] JUSTINMARMER:
All new Cameron Sino batteries are fake. They are only 3050 mah.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Loccy:
I also ordered mine from Amazon and it was fulfilled by Amazon. If this is the criteria for "genuine" then my battery fulfils it. I can't imagine anyone looking to bootleg batteries would bother forging "Cameron Sino" on their batteries - they'd be much more likely to make them look like genuine OEM kit. I think it's more likely there are different batches out there. I have had mine in my phone for some months now and got 5-6 hours screen on when it first went in. Reckon it's more likely now that I'd get 3-4. Not awful, but a demonstrable degradation in a relatively short period. (I must get around to seeing what Accubattery would make of it...)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
People were worried about its safety and it not being real. Talk to company so we know what's going on with these after market batteries we put in our phone. I trust the Cameron Sino compared to OEM knock offs, all of those either don't have a thermistor or have one and is now outdated tech. I'm glad they were kind enough to explain that newer Cameron Sino don't use a thermistor. I have seen plenty reports of knock off Cameron Sino batteries they are respected company.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CZ Eddie:
I'm afraid you're not totally correct.

Yes, "Fulfilled by Amazon" increases your chances of it being genuine.

But it's not anywhere close to being a sure thing. Not hardly.

Unless it's actually sold by Amazon, then you don't know.

Many companies sell through Amazon where Amazon does the shipping.

And this company just buys their product from China and never even see the product.

It's shipped to Amazon and then Amazon ships it to the buyers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
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Eh whatever lol, I talked to them direct it was and I'm covered from a to z when fulfilled by amazon. I get what's intended or money back enough guarantee for me. My battery is safer than OEM...guess that's better than being Genuine!:D:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Loccy:
I think a primed neutron bomb would be safer than the junk they put in as OEM batteries!

I installed Accubattery last night and on my last charge cycle it gave me a battery health of 87%. That's after four months or so. Maybe I have a snide CS battery, maybe there are batches of varying quality, maybe they're just not as good as we'd hoped they'd be. I'll run this for a few more months then I think it's probably time for a new phone :(
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
You must have got an old batch and/or is fake lol.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
I've been using my CS battery for a couple weeks now.

Accubattery shows health at 88% (yes, I wiped app data for Accubattery once I installed the CS battery). Disappointed, but still far better than my original battery.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] 666syco:
I'm new to the Nexus 6P I bought a used one with the known battery issue and I found on eBay a real OEM one with the temperature chip in it. It's installed and working great it's just a bit more in price compared to the other (fakes) sold on eBay and my battery temp does change up and down when I check it through a app call Droid info

Here is the link it's sold and shipped in the USA.

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/172835671310

Running Weta-ReStock 4.8.5-1.2 VS995 hyb
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
The thermistor is old tech they use IC's with resistors to regulate temperature now. IC provide a more linear curve for output voltage vs temperature. The current vs the temperature the IC is more stable also because of less power dissipation which leads to more accurate temp reading. Thermistors can self heat above ambient temperatures of environment resulting in temperature errors.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Cordtus:
This isn't OEM. It looks very similar but the cable is thinner and there is no temp sensor.

I have tried three different aftermarket batteries for this phone and they are all absolutely garbage.

One of them was the "oem" (not real oem) that looks legit but has no temp sensor. This one had great battery life (100% health on accubattery) but it would instant black screen shutoff if I took 1 or more hdr+ photos and would refuse to turn back on or respond in any way until I plugged it in.

The second one was a random no name battery and it started off with 84% battery health right off the start and the battery life was obviously garbage.

The one I have now is the Cameron sino I have read about in here, people claim it's good but it has the same issue as the no name one in that battery health brand new is crap. It doesn't even fully charge, it stops at 90% and says it's full and I need to unplug and plug it back in 3-5 times to force it to charge to 99%. It's sitting around 90% or ~3000mah and I only get 4 hours sot compared to the 5+ I was getting with my OEM battery.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ApoelEllhnwn:
Hello everyone i fond this site out there that have a lots parts of our Nexus 6P. Check it out and tell me your opinion.

https://globaldirectparts.com
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
You must have old batch or defective or fake. My Cameron Sino is full capacity and get upwards of 5+ SOT.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Exostenza:
I got this battery after doing some research on which battery to buy to replace mine that was shutting down at random intervals and generally being a PITA. Since installing I have had great battery life and haven't had a single issue. Highly recommended.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] spuri78:
It's back in stock so just ordered one. Fingers crossed!! Thanks for sharing the link.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Cameron Sino is da bomb diggity!:D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CZ Eddie:
I'm going to try this one from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Cameron-Sino...13240&sr=8-4&keywords=Cameron+3450mAh+13.11Wh

It's sold by batterycentreUS.

There is an Amazon Prime one that's fulfilled by Amazon, but it's twice as expensive.

Will let ya'll know how it works out for me.

I've got the "Early Shutdown" as well as severely degraded battery performance.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] LilCozyFab:
Hello folks,

I went with this one from eBay before learning about the Cameron Sino. Am I asking for trouble with this battery?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Li-ion-Internal-Battery-3450mAh-for-Huawei-Google-Nexus-6P-H1511-H1512-Tools/252482757101?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xterminater07:
I have the early shut down issue as well but google will not replace my phone. Do I go with another OEM battery from Huawei or a different brand because if I go with OEM, I will have the same issue even though it is new right?

The problem seems to be with the battery alone right?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
I replaced my battery with Cameron Sino off of Amazon. I no longer have early shutdown issue. My SOT has improved quite a bit too. They have newer tech and are safer than OEM. Some of those OEM batteries are old too. Highly recommend Cameron Sino battery it is the best option IMO.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xterminater07:
Thank you for the response. I am using the nexus 6p as a back up device so spending $50 for a battery seems a bit tough especially I got the phone for just $100 used but great shape :P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
I paid $25 for my Cameron Sino. There are knock offs with thermistor which is like OEM. Here's a link to like Stock Battery, https://m.ebay.com/itm/232447809384?_mwBanner=1
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xterminater07:
How do I find out which Cameron Sino, ie.. the cheap one like you had for $25 is real? There has been reported Cameron Sino in this forum that has no temperature monitoring at all.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Take a look at page 47 post 464. I emailed company and got some answers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kennethdavis732:
Did you buy the $25 one from battery centre us or the $42 one from power of matic
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xterminater07:
I don't see a $25 fullfilled by amazon, I only see the $25 from battery centre US like mentioned.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
A month ago I bought a CS battery from Power-O-Matic Fulfilled by Amazon. It cost more than the one from battery centre US, but was faster shipping.

I regret buying the current Cameron Sino. They obviously are selling a different model now. The model number is different from the pictures.

click thumbnail of latest CS. The older model (GB/T 18287-2013 With a "T") had a thick ribbon, and user had good reports. The new model is GB/T 18287-2014 no T) These are 44 grams, several report the phone will die when snapping a photo. Won't turn on until power is plugged in. This resets the cheap circuit breaker IC in the sub standard battery.

Mine came with a fake temp sensor, no Thermal breaker, It's smaller than OEM, Estimated Capacity has remained 3141mAh, health 91%. When an aged battery weakens to 80% capacity, it's done. My month old CS is half way there :(

"New CS magical circuitry" they omitted the "pricey" thermal breaker and thermistor, subbed in a Chintzy IC to cut power on "medium high" current draw. The IC on the charge side does do some throttling of charge current. Maybe the thin ribbon will act like a fuse if something catastrophic happens :p

The "magic beans" caused my phone to die twice in the past week. It caused the battery to cut off power to the device several times while using high current draw (Casting Video, and youtube). Phone died at 55% an 77% charge. It wouldn't turn back on until USB power was momentarily plugged back in. That resets the "magic bean" After a quick plugin it ran OK again on battery again with normal drain. Anyone else??? Gotta love the new tech circuitry

The OEM has thick ribbon, thermistor, and self reset-able thermal breaker.

Original Battery (identified protection)

Quality battery manufacturers stamp a date code on their batteries. Old stock will work OK for a limited time. I really don't see any batteries for sale in US that I would really want to try. I'm curious if anyone has tried any of the ones available from China. ( aliexpress.com )

I might try one of these if my phone keeps dying with no warning. There are several batteries that are listed as 4000mAh, show a fat ribbon, and have visible protective circuitry. They range from $8 to $15, free shipping, that is if you can wait up to 21 days...:confused:

Visible thermistor and thermal breaker $8.99

LOSONCOER 4000mAh HB416683ECW For Huawei Google Ascend Nexus 6P H1511 H1512 battery $10.99

Older reports a few months ago that it weighed 56 grams and had a thick ribbon, the ones sold now are the same as the CS batteries 44 Grams, thin ribbon, occasional shut off where you have to reset the "cheesy protection by hooking the charger up momentarily.

Edit: OEM still going strong, over 100%. 1/5/17

CS fanboy ICEBURN1 AKA CHLIBANG is no longer a forum member.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thesebastian:
That's sounds like a fake CS maybe they are selling with that name but it's definitely different it doesn't even mention the brand and the ribbon cable seems to be different

This is my CS, I would try to ask the seller if the CS battery has this look before purchasing:

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/z9IYC

Now you can try other models. Maybe they are as good as Cameron Sino. I'd only try to skip the ones that says Huawei. Unless they are the only ones you can find.

I'd give a try to that losoncoer

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wizardwiz:
Did anyone checked this one ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Origina...&sd=253104506905&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1