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[Supported Devices] MindlessManiacs:
Hi All,

Saw this in the comments and thought I would chip in with my experience so far.

I got the 64GB version and so far it is the computer I have paid for.

The track pad as everyone said is very crappy, but I just use an external mouse instead so its not a big problem. :)

I seem to have a good unit and don't have any problems with the unit.

My only gripe is that the battery kinda sucks and after using it intensive for like 3-4 hrs, it will have almost no battery. I wish it came with my UK adapter instead of the US one, but its okay.

Furthermore, is there anyway to put widgets on it? or Use another launcher?

Has anyone tried to root it or tried to install another OS on top of it? I heard that PhoenixOs is possible?
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
For what it's worth, my trackpad actually works really well. I was surprised to read all of the complaints about it. I'm guessing that a lot of them are defective?

Regarding the widgets, no - there is no way to use Widgets in Remix OS 2.0 (not sure about 3.0), which is a huge limitation. Widgets are one of the things that make Android so powerful - and I miss them big time in Remix OS...

I too would like to know if there is a way to load PhoenixOS on this device. I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere that it would be possible (maybe one of the updates on Kickstarter?). I will see if I can email Azpen about this. RemixOS 2.0 is really good, but not quite "finished" in my opinion...
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
Hi! Does somebody receive a blank white screen when laptop booting or waking up?﻿

Every time when I push power button I get a blank white screen... How I can fix it?
[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
Hey,

as pointed out in a previous comment, it happens to me every time I turn off the screen by pressing the power button or even when it turns off by itself.

I have to try several times waking it up by pressing the power button before to get back to Remix Os.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
I have never experienced that on my A1160 - and I've been using it pretty heavily.

Sounds defective to me.
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
There was a post on the KickStarter Update messages detailing how to install Phoenix OS instead of Remix OS but now I can't find it. Was it removed? I was going to give it a go!
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
Yes, they removed it. On azpen site, go to Support and then in Downloads, there you can find "Upgrade tool for Allwiner". I had downloaded archive and I think there information about Phoenix OS, but all information on Chinese :eek: and I do not sure that Phoenix OS is ready for our laptops...
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
Thanks for that, might give Phoenix OS a go if I can do a backup first!

Here is the Chinese instructions translated broadly into English! :good:

PhoenixProCN
[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
Here a how to (I hope this is the same thing you were talking about) in english -> https://androidmtk.com/flash-stock-rom-using-phoenix-usb-pro

I just don't get how we can flash the firmware through usb on A1160 (I'm referring to steps 10/11).

Do you have any idea how it is supposed to work? I've always used adb and flashboot.

Thanks
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
BTW, apparently some apps and games refuse to work. I just tried a game which tries to start but then I get thrown back to the home screen. I almost gave up but I found the setting for starting a program in full screen mode and now it works!
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
The problem is that we don't even have a Phoenix OS image for this device. The steps above just show how to use the flashing tool - but we need the actual Phoenix OS image before we can even try it. There is no image for this device on the Phoenix OS website - they mainly just have a few ARM-based images for Nexus devices...
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Has anyone contacted them to get an image? I ask because they sell an almost identical laptop to the ones we got it seems:

tinydeal.com/azpen-a1160-116-phoenix-os-allwinner-a64-2gb-32gb-laptop-w-hdmi-p-163227.html

If no one has contacted them about it I'll open a ticket and see what I can find out. By the way, thanks for making this thread, I loved the tips I have found in here so far. Also a question, anyone been able to get a key remapper to work? Tincore can't work without root and the one that comes with RemixOS seems to be in a later build of Remix OS 2.0 than we get. I don't see it in epxeremental items like research has show, which is a big bummer. I was hoping to play some mobile games on this thing, and it's not working very well without key mapping.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Actually, I did send them an email the other day (mglasscock@azpenpc.com) - asking about alternative OS options - he responded with this today:

"I'll file you in my upgrade folder and will be emailing out to everyone in a few weeks.*

Thank you,

Mike"

So send him a email if interested (I'll also post what I find out in here, of course).

Not sure about the keymapping question. For some reason, I thought that was a feature that came in a later version of RemixOS (but could be wrong).
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
I wrote in support about the problem with blank white screen. I also wrote that I need a firmware of Remix OS or Phoenix OS to understand the problem in the software or hardware.

They asked me where I live. I said, and no one is responsible from the time ...

For the first time confronted with such indifferent behavior ... :(
[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
I'm facing the same issue with blank screen turning on the screen, I don't get why they asked you there you live? Are they going to send you another unit?

Who did you write to? To mike directly ?

Here the phoenix os forum thread for ARM arch, in which it's possible to ask to port Phoenix on other devices. Maybe we can give it a try.

To everyone: could you please post any info/software you're going to receive?

Thank you.

Regards
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
I wrote to Customer Support: support@azpenpc.com

I do not know why he asked me where I live. Maybe he wanted to offer to send the laptop for repair. But I live in Ukraine. I find on Azpen site clause: "If any Azpen product is received via a Kickstarter Campaign at a discounted price, the customer will be responsible for cost of shipping to and from Azpen for warranty repair work." And even he offered to send for repair, I do not see any sense, because the delivery of laptop to repair and back will cost about $ 50. I find it easier to repair myrself or to give to a local repairshop. But I don't understand where is the problem. Sometimes i think that blank white screan appears thru of firmware. For example, I have always a white screen after rebooting the laptop :mad:

PS Maybe he asked me where I live to know the probability that I would come to his office and hit him in the face :laugh:
[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
Not to mention the battery capacity, I'm not really sure I how i feel about the comments on KS stating the battery is 2850 mAh. :eek:
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
Perhaps the phoneinfo shows incorrect information on the battery, but I tested the battery life - 3 hours playing video on YouTube and he is completely discharged ... For example, my old iPad 2 working 8-9 hours
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Yeah - I have a 10" Lenovo tablet that I bought from Walmart for $79 - it has a 7000mAh battery and that thing lasts FOREVER. If it really is a 6000mAh battery then it's either a super crappy quality battery or the hardware/RemixOS is just crazy hard on battery life... But something just doesn't add up. This is not some blazingly fast device that should suck the battery life like it does.

Right now, this is the only RemixOS device I have, so i have nothing to compare it to from that perspective.

Although, I'm eyeing up an Onda device from China - dual-boot Windows 10/RemixOS 2-in-1, 11.6" touch-screen, keyboard dock, 4gb RAM, *much* nicer screen, etc. It's obviously more expensive, but I have a feeling that it's going to provide a MUCH better experience. With keyboard dock, it's about ~$250. But considering the specs and the fact that it's dual-boot Windows 10 and RemixOS, it will be well worth it!
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
Well, be honest, 250 and 89 the difference is almost 3 times. Laptop cheap and not worth much to expect from him. And to be honest, I would be completely happy with it, if it would not have a white screen ...

Yes, it is not very fast, but he is 3 times cheaper Chinese tablet.
[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
Actually I'm not disappointed from the performance overall, I needed (as I'm sure the 90% of the backers did) a very slim and lightweight laptop for travelling and to use on the couch instead of the smartphone, so I don't care too much if chrome is a bit slow or I cannot keep several apps running at the same time.

I would never buy a device like this if I needed performance and I'm ok with RemixOS 2 too, as far as there will be apps backward compatibility.

Vice versa, the battery capacity is a huge problem from my point of view, since it makes the device completely useless for reasons I bought it.

I expect at least to be able to whatch a full movie before it runs out of battery but, as far as I get it, it shouldn't be possible.

And of course, there still is the blank screen problem. [MENTION=6784075]andyj.ua[/MENTION] I've uploaded a video. It shows one of the "best cases" in my experience with a1160, most of the times I get up to 10 blank screens in a row and the only solution is powering off the device.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Yes, I understand the price difference. I'm just saying that, in the end, the A1160 just makes me want a better device. It just doesn't have the specs, performance or quality to truly make me happy. It works (at least mine does), but leaves a lot to be desired. And with the poor battery life (and lack of a standard USB charging port), it really reduces it's practicality, in my opinion.

I'm not trying to "compare" the ONDA device to the A1160 - like you said, they are in a completely different price range. Although, I probably would have been better off just putting the $100 towards the Onda from the get-go (instead of getting the A1160). I've learned over the years that sometimes you're better off spending a little more and getting something that is of higher quality.

The dual-boot and removable touch-screen aspect of the Onda is really attractive to me.... Just wish I could find something comparable sold here in the USA instead of having to order from China.

EDIT: So I went ahead and ordered this Onda device:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252660620759

with this keyboard:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252711981625

Not really related to this thread, but just thought I'd share another cool-looking device!
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Thanks! I just emailed him and will look forward to hearing about them.

As for the key mapping it came to Remix OS 2.0.404 and beyond I believe in the 2.0 line, and came with 3.0 stock. It seems the android image isn't getting updated with that version, which is why it's missing. I don't blame them just would be really helpful for some touch only games.
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
Well, I tried a few roms from the Pine64 forums but I couldn't get any to boot on our Hybrx. The laptop will not turn on at all until I remove the SD Card!

Ah well, keep trying I guess.
[Supported Devices] MindlessManiacs:
Does anyone have problem with charging the device?

I saw that the adapter(US) had allow the voltage of 110-240V .

I live in HK, so i would need 220V.

Initially, I was using it at home where my switch will accept a US plug into a HK outlet without any problems.

I took it out today to starbucks and attached an international adaptor that changes the prongs to HK, but it didnt' charge my laptop.

Now it won't even charge at home! What do i do?

Is it dead?
[Supported Devices] LuciferAust:
Does blue power light come on when pluged into power point? If not then perhaps bad.

Input is: 100-240V/0.5A Max

Most important is power out 5.0v(dc)==3.0A

Also you have to work out if it is:

- == C == + (Center positive symbol)

(minus) == (plus)

Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarity_symbols

Support is:

support@azpenpc.com

*Expect a few days for reply
[Supported Devices] MindlessManiacs:
Unfortunately, there wqe no bkue light. There was blue light before when i plugged it in without the adaptor, but no2 nothing, im emailed mike to see if he can send thr uk one, because thats what originally was supposed to be sent to me in the first place!

Or if i can get a hold of those multi tips adaptor
[Supported Devices] LuciferAust:
Might be quicker to buy a long corded one (being in HK) $5usd or so.

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[Supported Devices] sephitoor:
Hey guys,

did anyone receive the original firmware or other stuff from Mike? (someone talked about phoenix os too)

Thank you
[Supported Devices] andyj.ua:
No, I also wrote to support, but they do not answer to me :(
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Well, the "novelty" of this device has already worn off and I'm back to using my HP Slatebook x2 full-time now... Oh well, it was worth a shot - but the quality just isn't there - and lacking a touch-screen makes it kind of hard to use for some stuff...

If anyone is interested in purchasing it, let me know. :)
[Supported Devices] MindlessManiacs:
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[Supported Devices] kuradormexico:
Any Root method now? =(
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Nope, not that I'm aware of....
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
RemixOS is made with the dev's refusing to help offer root ability. The PC version of Remix can be rooted, but only via an image file. Kingoroot and other apps like it won't work unfortunately. I'm hoping to see PhoenixOS install directions with an image as that one can be rooted.
[Supported Devices] wizworld:
Hat's off to Azpen on the attempt.

Thank's for starting this thread. I got mine about 25 days ago and for this price it's hit and miss. I am happy that unlike some Kickstarter backer like myself,it does work. The track pad and battery life are among the worst flaws. The pad stick and just stops working here and there. I'm getting about 3 hours out of a 6000mah battery(lol). I'm also having some apps thinking I have know wifi while other apps are still work on the wifi.

The things that have work well are Netflix,Amazon and Kodi. They all had a rough start but work fine on the 2gb of ram(wish it had 4). Google Doc,Drive and Dropbox are also all good here. I am still waiting for a response from Azpen on the bad battery life and all the other backer issues.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Yeah, these units are just too cheap for their own good. It was a good idea, but the quality and QA are killing it.

I too received a perfectly working unit, but it has already developed a pretty major issue. Now, when typing, the pressure from my left hand on the keyboard "palm rest" causes the keyboard to stop working. If I lift my hand up, it starts working again. And the battery life is just horrible. Also, unlike tablets, you can continue to get new email notifications when its off. It goes into some kind of "deep sleep" mode that stops it from working, even if wifi is set to stay on all of the time.

I've also had issues with the screen turning back on after closing the unit.

Like I said, the quality it just too poor to be a truly useful device, in my opinion.

I'll really looking forward to the Onda Obook 11 Plus device that I recently ordered - it looks like a really cool device (11.6" 1920x1080 touch-screen, 4gb RAM, 64GB storage, dual-boot windows 10/Remix OS, all metal, etc). Granted, it costs significantly more, about $250 for device and keyboard dock, but it will be money well spent if it works well. I'm done with these ultra-cheap devices. Usually, you get what you pay for. :)
[Supported Devices] wizworld:
I'm with you my brother.You pay your and you take your chance. Sometimes you get a dud.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Another very interesting device that I came across is the Teclast Tbook 12 Pro - VERY cool looking device (very similar to the Onda Obook 11 Plus)...
[Supported Devices] LuciferAust:
Probably true. I always felt it was tight, and they inc. DHL delivery in the price, they *might* be cheap in the US but they are quite expensive here in Australia ($15-$20). I've gotten quite good with the trackpad (very surprised, esp. considering the complaints) and do like it.

Its always such a risk making (and buying) stuff like this. I'm glad it got made, I just hope they make enough money to provide tech support, etc.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
For what it's worth, I received my Onda Obook 11 Plus tablet/keyboard dock the other day. So far, I'm pretty impressed! The keyboard isn't as high quality as I hoped, but it's perfectly acceptable (but it's mostly plastic). The tablet itself is really nice - the screen is absolutely beautiful. And it is *so* cool being able to switch between Windows 10 and Android on the same device!! Performs really well. Battery life doesn't seem to be all that great, but I need more time to really test it. I wish there was a battery in the keyboard dock (they do have that with one of their 10.1" 2-in-1 devices, but not the 11.6" device).

It's definitely not perfect, but for the price, it's a really nice and VERY useful device. I mean the 32gb A1160 costs like $150+ retail. I got a device with twice the RAM (4gb), twice the storage (64gb), a MUCH nicer, touch-enabled screen AND both Windows 10 and Remix OS 2.0 for about $250. I kind of wish that I got the Android version instead of the Remix OS version though - I miss my widgets too much!! May look into it and see if I can somehow replace Remix OS with Android. I'll probably start a new thread for this device (in case anyone else purchases).
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
I assume no one has heard from them about loading Phoenix OS yet? I haven't even gotten a reply from a few emails contacting them that they even got my email.
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
Nope... Nothing... Nada...

I don't even know if you can connect this thing to a PC and use ADB, etc... I don't think that works with the type of USB ports on this thing?
[Supported Devices] sakara:
This is my emails to him and his replies:

me on 2 Jan:

"hi Mike i`ve received my hybrix today and i want to know how to change remix os to phoenix os. Can you provide me the procedure please. Thank you."

him on 3 Jan:

"I will follow up in about 1-2 weeks as I will be out all this week and part next week at the ces show."

me on 24 Jan:

"Hi Mike, i'm still waiting..."

him on 24 Jan:

"So you are wanting to change to the Phoenix OS and you watch the video and have checked it out.

We are testing here to make sure it works ok in doing the reflash. Let me get these results back once our team has completed.

Hopefully complete by March."

I honestly think that we could wait in vain...
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Sad but what I expected unfortunately...
[Supported Devices] jtrosky:
I'm telling you guys - if you want a REAL Remix device and can afford it, look into one of the following:

Onda Obook 11 Plus (currently have one - broke it with a bad firmware setting - waiting for a new one) 11.6" with keyboard dock

Chuwi Hi12 Pro (currently waiting on one to arrive) - 12.2" 3x2 ratio screen with keyboard dock - has 11,000mAh battery!

Chuwi Hi10 Pro (currently waiting on one to arrive) - 10.1" with keyboard dock - got it for a price that was too good to pass up.

All of these devices are dual-boot devices - Windows 10 and either Android 5.1 or Remix OS 2.0 (they sell them both ways). The Chuwi devices seem much more "hacker friendly" - very little info about the Onda Obook 11 Plus out there.

They range in price from about $180 for the Hi10 to $230 for the Hi12 (Onda 11 Plus is about $225). Keyboard docks are usually around $50. I know the Chuwi devices can be rooted (both Android and Remix OS). Haven't found a root solution for the Onda yet, but I broke it before I could really dig into it.

Yes, they are more expensive than the Azpen, but they all feature very high resolution touch-screens (that obviously can be used as a tablet without the keyboard dock) and are light-years better than the Azpen in terms of quality, performance and functionality. My understanding is that the Chuwi Hi12 is the "best of breed" - I'll have one to test in about 5 days or so. But I really liked the Onda Obook 11 Plus as well before I bricked it (after only a few days!!!).

After I decide which one I want to keep, I'll probably sell the others. If so, I'll let you know in this forum in case you are interested (we can talk via PM at that point).
[Supported Devices] siezens:
Recovery mode on A1160

Hi,

I was enjoying my Azpen A1160 until i decided to encrypt the device contents.

It failed and now won't boot beyond Azpen logo.

Does anyone know the keyboard combo to get it into recovery mode?

I have emailed Azpen support but they aren't very quick. Also Googled for manual but can't find it...

I can't connect to the device via ADB either so really stuck unless there is a key combo that can force recovery mode (and factory reset).

Many thanks
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Checking in a month since the last update. I still like using the tablet, but wondering if anyone has heard from Azpen about loading Phoenix OS on it. I assume not, but wanted to check in.
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
Here is a link to the Azpen Hybrx A1160 OS firmware. This will be handy especially as Azpen still offer no support via their website.

A1160 Remix OS

Use PhoenixUSBPro to flash the image.
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Awesome, have you tried it out at all? I'm interested in trying, just wasn't sure if there was anyone listing success with the process.
[Supported Devices] ElderTugBoat:
Change os

Someone can help me to flash a distro linux on this laptop? Mike and the assistence don't responde at e-mail!
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Dunno about linux, can try to put PhoenixOS on it (https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71515789&postcount=66)
[Supported Devices] powerpoint45:
Does anyone know how to connect this device up to a computer via usb or wireless for adb etc?
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
Well, I can't get the Hybrx to load the Remix 2.0 OS image, or any other image for that matter. I thought the obvious solution was to connect the laptop to my PC and use the AllWinner PhoenixUSBPro tool to flash the image but I can't get the PC to see the laptop.

Next, I tried PhoenixCard to burn the images first to a Micro SD Card and then a USB Flash Drive. Now, it gets interesting in that with the Micro SD Card inserted, the laptop will not boot or turn on at all. With the USB Flash Drive, it gets ignored and boots to the usual desktop. So, I am guessing the Micro SD Card is the way to go but I've just got to figure out how to burn a successful image.

Onwards and upwards!
[Supported Devices] techtalkonline:
Partial success! Tried a different Micro SD Card and it worked to a point.

I got the image from here: A1160 PhoenixOS and extracted the .zip file.

I got PhoenixUSBPro from here: PhoenixCard and again, extracted the .zip file. You don't install the program, just click phoenixcard.exe to run it.

Start PhoenixCard. Click the "Img File" button then point it to the location where I downloaded the A1160 Phoenix OS image. Make sure you click the "Startup !" radio button. Insert a Micro SD Card and check it is showing in the "Disk" box. Then just click "Burn".

Patience is required here as it will look like it has stalled, doing nothing. Just leave it and it will finish.

Pop the finished card into the Micro SD slot in your Hybrx, click restart (if it's already on) and then wait. And wait. And wait. Nothing happens! It seems to start OK with a screen saying "System Initialising, please wait...." but that's as far as I get. Which is worrying as it is the image given to me by Azpen themselves?

Ah well, further than I was. I will try another image, perhaps one of the Pine A64 images will work?
[Supported Devices] Engarak:
Thanks for the update, I'm interested in this for sure!