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[Nexus 6P Accessories] pezzku:
That response is complete nonsense and clearly written by someone that has no clue about electronics.

Resistors that "detect situations" and "send signals"? LOL.

Their "resistor controlling the temperature" must be the one in place of thermistor spoofing constant 30 degC temp to phone. That is, if not straight on dangerous, at least very bad for the battery, as phone needs to know battery's temperature to set proper charging current or prevent charging altogether!

I can only suggest to avoid these Crap Sino at all costs.

/EE rant

PS.

I installed the cell from CS battery using protection circuit from the original battery so I get proper protection functions and temp readings. Cell was physically smaller than original as noted above, which already means it has less capacity. Now after 14 session Accubattery shows 2974 mAh capacity for 86% health. Great. Still not recommended.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Its obvious they are not tech gurus but they relayed message from a respectable company. If you don't know about IC's then you need to do research. Thermistors can be unreliable, self heating above ambient temps causing errors. IC provide a more linear curve which in turn keeps a stable temperature. Any battery with thermistor is outdated and I wouldn't want outdated tech. Its funny when people don't read this thread. Gd luck bro!

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You must have fake one lol

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Yeah mine is all black and doesn't have gold on it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
I received my LOSONCOER the other day. It looks exactly like my CS (same thin ribbon cable, etc) same except for the label on the battery - the model number may also have been different. Same weight of 44oz. I'll post a pic when I get home

I'm not confident it'll be any better.

I know Iceburn1 really likes his CS (and is trying to become a salesman for the company /s), but it appears their new stock is now garbage like the rest of the batteries out there. I'm at 89% battery health with mine after a month of use - I never got above 90%. At least it hasn't degraded...

I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now that you mention it, this happened to me the other day too. I was just surfing the net and my phone turned off at like 50% battery. It wouldn't turn on again until I plugged it in. After I was booted up, I unplugged and everything was normal again.

TLDR, the CS batteries are no longer worth the price premium.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
No sales man lol you're just mad you got a bootleg. Its OK it happens to people who buy from shady sources.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
That's ridiculous. Amazon is not a shady source. It's certainly more reliable than anything you'd find on eBay, etc.

There are all these reports of poor CS batteries being posted recently. I'm happy you got a good one a while ago, but that's just not how it is anymore.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Buying from Amazon doesn't tell you anything, and yes maybe I was lucky. Just like these crappy 6Ps...some people have 4 core problem some dont. Its roll of the dice! Good luck on quest for decent battery.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] pezzku:
Well they or you are not obviously tech gurus, but I would have liked the manufacturer to be. And not send a message with some mumbling about "ICs and resistors" which I now see repeated too often here.

Your reply has nothing to do with what I said about missing temp sensor on CS batteries.

Sorry if this is bad for your business, but I feel it is important to bring these flaws into attention.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thesebastian:
Do not forget that before we had plenty of fake Huawei batteries and the good and more expensive Cameron Sino so far perfect.

But now after several months....more stock Huawei batteries are dying and more spare batteries are appearing..so the story is different. I would try other batteries if the Cameron sinos are fake everywhere.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
You don't understand what IC's do LOL! Your obviously need to brush up on your reading. Never said I was a tech guru. I come to this site for advice from other people and to try and give. And who said anything about business? You mad bro?:mad:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
The date code is old on the picture, but if it comes with the fat ribbon, and OEM protection circuitry, It's probably a good choice. I might purchase one of these to check it out, even if it's old stock. The seller's picture is pointing to the thermal breaker, the temp sensor is there too, on the right side. No magic "New tech" circuitry because everyone knows thermistor's are obsolete, NOT!

Good luck Man!

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Good job!

My bet is these newer Chicken S*** batteries are genuine CS, and They are only 3000 mAh, made as cheaply as they could get away with.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Your fake cs battery might read 3000mah lol
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
That's for sure dude!

I like how they spell battery "BATTER" on their product picture :) Dang, I will hold off on getting one of these.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] pezzku:
I actually have this one on order, I'll post my findings when I receive it. Been now 10 days in shipping.

Yeah, they probably changed their supplier and now on come with smaller capacity cells and crappy protection.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
Here are some pics of the LOSONCOER I received from AliExpress. Like I mentioned before, same weight and thin cable as the CS. I don't have enough confidence that it'll be better to warrant opening up my 6P again until my CS battery really starts degrading.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
So u like knock offs and OEM crap that shuts down early makes sense lol
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
I'm new to 6P got it off of swappa! After reading thread I would go with Cameron Sino, instead of dangerous copy cats or OEM that will only have same problem.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Bubba:
It's there any reason why you're trolling everyone? This thread ran smooth for quite a while. Then few pages back you started in for no real reason. There's really no sense in it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
I'm confused giving advice and getting answers from a company is trolling then I guess Im at wrong site? Maybe you should reread last few pages.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kennethdavis732:
I'm still curious what company sent you back the info on the cs batteries
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
BatteryCentreUS
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Bubba:
You're right. I reread and I apologize. You've been nothing but helpful. I just am pointing out that the attitude is a bit much for a thread about batteries. I just don't see that it's necessary. But you do you. No worries.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Lol maybe you should yell at the other kids dad
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vyrus027:
Hi i wanna know about any insight about these batteries

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/866594000.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.149c7cdaQopUEu

https://m.ebay.com/itm/New-3550-mAh...le-Nexus-6P-H1511-H-/232468323841?_mwBanner=1

You guys suggest cameron sino but i cant find someone ships that battery in my country without having a hefty shipping fee. Thanks. Chinese knock offs are the only thing i can get my hands on and find
[Nexus 6P Accessories] CZ Eddie:
My new used 6P had the early shut-down issue.

I stopped using my cheap USB 2.0 charger with the Pixel 2.0 to 3.0 converter.

And started using ONLY the stock 6P charger.

It's been a couple weeks now and I haven't had the early shut down issue since.

Flipping battery capacity is toast though and a replacement is on the menu.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Pretty much all the batteries on the market are looking like they are coming from the same crappy source. (Cameron Sino, LOSONCOER 4000mAh...)

Thin Ribbon cable, that is too long

Fake temperature sensing, temp doesn't raise while charging

No thermal breaker, cheap IC.

At least they don't misspell "Battery" on the HSABAT HB416683ECW 4000mAh ;)

If you buy one of these, please weigh it (similar ones are 44grams and battery app's report estimated 3200mAH), report back here so others can decide better.

Good luck ;)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wizardwiz:
How about this one ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/232447809384
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Spannaa:
It looks exactly the same as the original - I used a similar one, and six months on, it's still going strong ;)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wizardwiz:
Actually , if and when my battery will be done, I will probably replace the battery and keep using my 6P until it will die :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Cameron Sino is da best! BEAST MODE ON!

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That has a thermistor on it those can self heat causing inaccurate temps and if its anything like OEM it will have shut down issue, n its probably older than dirt too. I would go with a respectable company like Cameron Sino, at least you know its coming from a company with standards. Those bootleg could end up like Note 7. Cameron Sino use IC its new tech and better than flintstone thermistor.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
I bought one to try out since my Cameron Sucko battery is absolute crap. My month old CS has a cheap IC, instead of thermal breaker, that occasionally cuts power off on high current draw, like when snapping a photo. The phone dies, the 6p won't turn back on until after the "new tech" IC is reset by plugging USB power in for 1 second. I'm not the only one that has brought this problem up in the forum. In fact, one guy bought his CS from the same vendor that [MENTION=5351947]Iceburn1[/MENTION] bought and corresponds with about how "thermistors are Flintstones era and they make their own heat". That's some funny sh** right there ;) Thanks dude!

I don't doubt that the last model of CS was a better product. But since about June or July the CS batteries available in USA became crap. The model number has changed, they are now selling a sub standard product.

The one I bought last week, same build date, from battery_expert in NJ, arrived today, 5 days from NJ to the left coast. It's date code is 2015-11-26, It's voltage was 3.8v on the bench. This is a good indicator that it most likely was stored in a cool environment. Batteries degrade over time, the Shelf life is most greatly determined by the temperature that it's stored at, and charge percentage when put into storage. If it was properly stored in a refrigerated environment capacity loss will be minuscule 2%, year. if stored in a warm environment about 25c/ 77f it is expected to have lost between 4% to 8% capacity in a year of storage. these batteries are almost two years old, so I expect it will be more like 4% to 16% loss in capacity. A good battery app, and time will tell how it performs. I expect that it will perform well for about a year.

A few left stateside:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3450mAh...846650?hash=item2840064d3a:g:2BkAAOSw3pVZwRD2

It is 100% OEM, old stock. It is designed for the device, "no magic new tech". Just old school dinosaur design ;)

Funny, my phone "CS died" when I took the 1st photo.

Both new and original batteries weigh 50 grams. the CS batteries weigh 44 grams.

Cameron Sino, and LOSONCOER used to have a fat ribbon, and had good reports from users.

the current Cameron Sino, HSABAT, and LOSONCOER 4000mAh batteries being sold recently are only 44 grams, no temp sensor, thin ribbon, Load protection IC false trips, killing the power occasionally until reset with usb power.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wizardwiz:
[MENTION=229340]uki[/MENTION]ah

Just let us know how it goes on a daily use with that battery:)
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[Nexus 6P Accessories] Neilkesh:
Hey there, My Nexus 6P died at 95% like last week and then again the next day at about 60% when i was taking some pictures.

But it hasn't died since, i used accubattery and it's showing 101% battery health. It was cold when it died the 2 times and then it got warmer since and it never died after that.

So should i still replace my battery or test this one a bit more? I know its my call but if there are more people whose cell didn't die after a couple of times or something i could work something out. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] caiejay:
I bought this battery and I hope it will be good

http://www.ebay.com/itm/202030327331
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Just got my Cameron sino ordered off Amazon ,looked the genuine article ,has a CS hologram and looks like a think cable
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
FYI - that's not a thick cable. See the battery pics posted here for what the OEMs look like (thick cable)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Welcome to the ELITE FUTURE TECH. Quality battery backed by quality name. It weighs less because it doest have that planet sized thermistor on it. Thermistors are outdated and can give errors. The IC's will regulate temperature better. I've taken a lot of pictures and 4K video and no issues of shutting down. No early shutdown issues and last longer than those crappy OEM batteries. All these KNOCK OFF OEM battery are being made in some basement with a guy n head lamp....if people want to be UNSAFE then by all means. Welcome pioneer on a digital frontier.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
So are you saying mine is a good battery or bad copy ?.Ordered off Amazon ,link was posted in this thread and they said it was a genuine CS
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Spannaa:
The thermistor weighs well under 1g so the rest of the difference would mean reduced capacity on the CS.

Maybe you should explain why the Huawei OEM battery is UNSAFE?

You sound like you're on some sort of crusade!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Its legit! 2 Legit to quit!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mbc663:
can i get the link to this? starting to get early shutdowns at around 45% and haven't been doing much research, is the think cable a postiive thing for the battery?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...meron+Sino&dpPl=1&dpID=51B+U1WZLjL&ref=plSrch
[Nexus 6P Accessories] rodman55:
Do I really have to order direct from CS to get a legit batt?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Yup,

Same crap you and I got [MENTION=4834820]NateK[/MENTION].

My phone died 3 times today. I was on a remote mtn top with real bad cell service, high current draw pinging the distant sites. 6p died three times in my pocket, no warning. Of course it happened while I was up on a tower, needed to take some pictures of damaged dish. Phone was dead! Had to climb back down and plug it into charger for "one Mississippi", then it reset the "new tech" and started up. Back up the tower to take the pictures I needed. This sucks!

I think it's very sad that one or two guys that bought the good one keep telling folks to buy what CS is pimping out now. If the battery has a thin ribbon it's junk. Don't buy it.

Tomorrow will try to find time to put in the new 2 year old original OEM battery that arrived the other day.

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If you search the forum back around May there was a guy that posted photos of the good CS battery ( HERE ), it had a thick ribbon, the model # was GB/T 18287-2013 With a "T".

If your battery has model #GB 18287-2014, sorry man, a few of us have tried to get the word out. The Sellers still show the picture of the GB/T 18287-2013, but more than several of us here received GB 18287-2014.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Here ya go ;)

Picture of my new OEM battery in my pretty CS box, with a variety of "12 gram" thermistors that I happen to have laying around in my Flintstones's parts bin.

The thermistor in the real battery is about the same size and weight as the fake thermistor (8.2k resistor) in my CS battery. Don't confuse the thermistor with the thermal breaker, it is large in comparison, about .5g. Normally the thermal breaker will never have to trip, it's there in the OEM battery to keep from exploding. The thermistor is used by the device's charging circuitry to throttle down charging current to keep the battery from over heating while fast charging.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] P1an:
Have you recived and tried the battery yet? I'm thinking about buying the same. :)

I bought a Losoncoer from Aliexpress on advise from [MENTION=2414816]Mihaillo[/MENTION] that had a thin ribbon cable and weight 43 grams.

Yesterday I installed it and I got around 3h SOT then it shut down with 10% battery left. AccuBattery says 88% battery health.

[MENTION=5609185]radionerd[/MENTION] You seem to know a lot about this subject and seem to have tried much batteries, what is your advice on what battery to get and so on? :)

Anyone else that have bought and changes a battery that you are fully satisfied with? Seems like Cameron Sino is no good anymore. So which battery to get?

Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Well so far so good ,replaced battery early today

Charged to full and accurate battery had is 3350 capacity of an expected 3450.

Phone is a lot cooler was always running hot lately,and no longer dropping 1% per minute or so under my eyes .Will report back once run down to 10% to see if I get the usual shut down at 15%
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Knows a lot about bootleg batteries that are unsafe. Companies need to be part a battery assembler program in order to produce safe quality batteries. Cameron Sino is part of that, so they have standards. All these third party knock offs are being created by companies with no regulations.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
I just finished replacing my month old CS battery. Had a heat gun this time, no problems, Yaay! The Ebay OEM battery from NJ fit in snug like it should. Battery voltage was 3.8v, it started up at 41%. The voltage and charge level is a good indicator that it was stored cool. Cleared the app data in AccuBattery and Ampere. It charged to 100%. After charging I casted YouTube for a while, shot pics, video, and ran flash light. Will do a few charge cycles, and will update soon.

The 1st charging estimate is 3279mAh, health 84% estimated discharge capacity 2893mAh. Still at 92% charge. These numbers are preliminary and should rise after a few cycles.

So far I'm liking it. I think the 2 year cool stored OEM will have better capacity than the fraudulent CS 3050MAh. Sure it will degrade like my original battery after about a year, but I'm selling this device soon.

I will do some load testing on the CS battery in a few days, I'm curious at what load it disconnects, my guesstimate is 2.2 to 2.7 amps, anyone want to wager?

[MENTION=2005018]P1an[/MENTION]

Update on stats

health 97% est capacity 3330mAh after installed for 20 hours, screen 6 hours, running videos most of the time. This will go up on next charge.

Reweighed my OEM batteries new and old 50g, CS battery was 45g, 40g after removing the extra CS labels that revealed the real label 3050mAh.

Ha Ha, "Temperature Controller", Not! That's splosion control man! Every battery whether it be in your phone or your ta-backy pipe should have one.

Peace out!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Cameron Sino is the beast!

I unzipped my Cameron Sino, looky ;)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] datsoy:
fvck! I felt Ive been robbed. :(

Im on CS a week now. no issue so far. but... meh ?

the money I spent to ship it on my country, :crying: almost half the price of CS.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Some stats from my first full charge of the CS battery from Amazon,happy with these,will it last ? Who knows but phone is considerably cooler and smoother ,no early shut down .Most if the time was on WiFi but had a couple of hrs of 4 g use and about 90 mins music streaming as well
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Mine is all black and yeah yours is a fake lol. No wonder why it shutdown on you.:D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Yes it sad that Cameron Sino is selling smaller 3050mAh batteries.

Hopefully you won't experience the CS shut down problem. Mine was Ok for about two or three weeks before it would occasionally kill power to the 6p. Had to plug in for a second to reset the CS overload control circuit.

In my work this is unacceptable.

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If you set the battery capacity manually to 3050mAh accubattery will report your health correctly.

Mine had about the same stats. I would have been ok with that if it hadn't started "CS dying" on me after a week of use.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NateK:
Old batch Cameron Sino were good. New batch Cameron Sino are bad
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
I clicked on the link. It brought me to the battery I bought just over a month ago. These CS batteries are falsely advertised as 3450 mAh. In fact they are 3050mAh.

They state that the battery is 60 grams, then show it as 1.6 oz. (45.359g)

This is false advertising, and should be reported to amazon. I reported it, and Amazon returned my $37

I only wish I got your battery, your stats don't lie. You got the previous quality model.

Screen grabs from your link, look at the weight discrepancy. The fraud is right there. Please stop recommending these. They are no longer available.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] JUSTINMARMER:
Well this sucks. The Cameron Sino batteries are all fakes now with a capacity of only 3050 mah. I get about 4.5 hrs SOT on it. That's about an hour more than my OEM battery. Certainly not worth the premium price. Bummer. I'm retuning it. Looking for any battery with true 3450mah capacity now.

Buyer beware. Don't buy Cameron Sino. They may have been good at one time but are nothing but fake garbage now.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
Or just order from reliable source!:p
[Nexus 6P Accessories] datsoy:
edit: almost same price of CS for shipment rather.

so..... it really hurts. lol

yeah, same as mine. no problem so far. still better than stock batt. but.....

thats...... yeah. How I wish, lets see about that Im on a week old now. haha.

I will be using this phone till it dies, so.. I hope I can find some good batt after my CS dies.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Dale B aka [MENTION=7323472]chilibang[/MENTION] aka [MENTION=5351947]Iceburn1[/MENTION]

Please get back under your bridge. ;)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] :
I know your frustrated at your purchase but no reason to be rude!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Dale,

Actually I'm not frustrated. I'm trying to help others that are about to purchase a battery. It seems to me that your recent posts are not very helpful to anyone except the vendors pimping these batteries.

Amazon quickly refunded my $37 price after I reported to them that the vendor was selling 3050mAh batteries claiming they were 3450mAh. I recommend those that got 3050mAh batteries do the same. After all, the shipping weight on their site says 1.6 oz, that's 45.4 grams, they claim the battery weighs 60 grams, as stated on the same product page. Helium bubble wrap?

Report the vendor, Get your refund! Amazon said that I can keep the CS battery for science.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] datsoy:
Thats a good news you got there, how can I do that?

I think I need to check mine if its a 3050mah then report it yeah? for confirmation?

Im in the Philippines, if they want me to ship the batt back to them, that would cause me amount of money.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] radionerd:
Amazon is real good at hiding the customer support "problem with an order"

Click on Amazon Help, there is a search box on the help screen

Click or search "Contact Us"

Click "order I Placed"

Select the order from drop down

At the bottom of the screen there is a box: "Tell us more about your issue", make a selection: "Problem with an Order"

Fill out the form, be sure to mention problems about misrepresentation of the product discription like:

advertised as 3450mAh, actual battery capacity 3050 mAh

Point out the listing's battery weight vs the actual weight of your battery

Any other problems...

Good luck!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] datsoy:
Noted. Thank you. :highfive: