yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
Wow, I was just able to make this happen.

SPB Mobile shell 2.1

SPB Time

Set my volume to 40% and verified in mobile shell. I then clicked the clock which fires up SPB Time. I let it sit for about 5 seconds and then closed it. Back in mobile shell my volume said 0%.

I'm going to uninstall spbtime and see what happens.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I'm not running either and still get the issue, but I'd be curious if this is the source for you guys. Maybe there is an element in SPB that is similiar to something I am running, although I keep mine pretty clean. Still, make sure to post your results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
I can't bring myself to uninstall SPB Time just yet because I use the One Time alarms a lot but I have noticed this which may be related somehow.

In the rom I'm running(sig) it comes with the Network Time sync turned off by default so you have to set the time manually after flash. This finally annoyed me this past weekend so I went to Start->settings->phone and turned on the network sync.

Prior to doing this I had the volume thing very seldomly or after using iGo8 but ever since Sunday this has been happening randomly throughout the day even as the phone sits idle and does nothing...which is why I'm all of a sudden in this thread ;)

I turned the time sync off just now and will see how it goes since that is the only thing I changed since the weekend.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LimDul:
I have the PTT button set for CommManager, and I press it quite often. Can be related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gman8966:
Good thinking, I always disable the network sync. I'll try this too and see if it makes any change.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
I can't say the time sync is the culprit for sure with the random drop to 0 but I can say that over 50% of the time when I disconnect my bluetooth headset it set's the Phone volume to 0%.

Here is what happened.

-Bluetooth radio on phone is on. I set profile to Vibrate only on phone

-Turn on bluetooth headset and make a phone call.

-Turn off bluetooth headset

-Speaker is now set to ON with 0% volume for phone (right side) and 40% device volume (left side)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I leave mine off by default and still get this problem frequently. I still think there could be some link to PTT. But then again I have 0% programming experience. Just seems odd and for some reason I have noticed that PTT has been reintegrated in many ROMS as being "fixed". Maybe it is but instead broke this. Heck, I don't know . . .:(

EDIT: BTW, I just messed around with some settings and determined that even if the volume appears to be on, I cannot hear sounds EXCEPT now incoming calls. I can try and play music, test ringtones, slide the keyboard, whatever, and no sound, with or with out BT on. I have attached a pic that shows me playing an mp3 and the volume shows that it should be on, but not a sound. Yet I call my phone andn now I can hear it ring. Soft reset and all better (until I turn BT back on and it randomly does it again).:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
Huh, I haven't had that problem.

I am now running the 1.65.24 radio and the same behavior so it's in the ROM somewhere...though we are using different roms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Ok, I think I'm starting to obsess on this. I swear it is driving me batty. :eek:

I'm tempted to see if we can get a poll to find really how many people suffer from volume drop issues, even if they aren't identical. the thread gets a lot of views bit it seems like less than 10 if us actually post . .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LimDul:
Yesterday my Kaiser stopped playing sound when receving a SMS, I thought that it's this bug, but music played normaly, testing ring tone worked... so I opened Sound&Notification setings and gues what, the new text message had the play sound unchecked :eek: How the hell could this happen? I cant think of how I could do this myself (acidentaly).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
I think I've aleviated some of my Bluetooth sound drops by striking first ;)

-Phone at 40% volume and bluetooth on phone

-I then set to silent profile

-I turn on bluetooth headset

-I then set back to normal profile and volume stays at 40%.

I do the same thing before turning off BT headset, set to silent, turn it off, then set back to normal.

*crosses fingers* so far it hasn't done it since yesterday afternoon but we'll see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
What a pain in the @$$!!! :( . . . still curious to see if it works . . . I haven't used my BT all day and no issues BTW . . .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Jonathan1683:
isnt this the opera bug ? when its launched it turns all the sounds off. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. I had the same problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I don't have Opera installed but be curious to hear more . ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Andy_S:
Ringer

Err... guys... didn't I posted this error nearly half-an-year ago? I DID! Why to bother to read old posts, right? Just spam the forum with same ones all over again... Who cares :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LimDul:
Confirmed, Opera is the thing that sets recieved SMS to no sound, I have not noticed it affect ringtone. Crap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Yep, known bug with Opera 9.5 beta. Theres a link on the opera support forum somewhere.

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
from your old post:

No ringtone on incoming calls - solution to fix this problem

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Hi. I've recently noticed, that my K isn't ringing on any incoming calls. If i choose vibra alert, everything is ok, K is vibrating. If i select normal, it just pops the "incoming call" window, but without ringtone. So... whats the solution?

HCKU/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/Ring

there's a key named InitVol. For some reason it set itself to 0. At the moment I've set it to 1 - no soft-reset needed ! - the problem wanished and K is again ringing!

I'm just curious, what is creating such a bug... Any ideas

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Last edited by Andy_S; 12-11-2007 at 02:05 PM.

I think we are having a different issue, as it seems to be triggered by our BT's, but your solution might be helpful. this is happening randomly and ring return after SR, and we are trying to find the cause.

Now, for the attitude. This isn't spamming the forum and probably is a different issue, so the sarcasm doesn't help. you could try and be constructive, as that is what this forum is about. I've been here for years and while many of my posts might be less helpful than the many talented members here, most have some use. I would suggest that before posting like this you look at why we are here and be helpful rather than divisive.

edit: BTW, did your problem ever return after you made the reg. change? mine is at 4 right now (the problem hasn't occured yet today, but when it does, I'll check out the level). I suspect that whatever cause the key to drop to zero will do it again even after the fix.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Andy_S:
i didn't meant to be rude, thats for sure. I just pointed, that i posted that error a quite some time ago.

I cannot try BT as i don't have any available. I noticed this error is produced by some bug in HTC Home plugin you mentioned on the begining. Just as someone posted - switching between vibra and ring alert for a few times...

And nope, my problem did not return, as of i do not use this function in HTC Home (i prefer to adjust it via classic slider volume control).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I experienced the problem (as expected) a little while ago and checked out the setting you refer to. Unfortunately mine still said "4", and not zero. . . the funny thing is that our devices, with as much as they can do, are supposed to primarily be phones and the need to hear them rings seems like a pretty important thing to fix. I really wish I could figure out why some of us experience this and others don't. Maybe a hardware issue for our particular phone releases? I'm at my wits end and keep hoping that there is the magic ROM out there that I can turn to . . . :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
I just had my phone on the Vibrate profile.

I opened IE and hit the right soft menu and heard the audible "click". Icon for speaker up on title bar was still a vibrating phone.

I closed IE and went to home screen. Icon was now a speaker with 0 phone volume and 40% system volume. WTF.

Seriously...why can't one of the WM6.0 radios have as good of battery life, that's the only thing keeping me on 6.1 right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thedogger:
I just reproduced this bug on my AT&T Tilt. Set the phone to vibrate without bluetooth headset attached. Then turned on headset, made a call. Hung up. Turned off headset, and there it was, volume with a little 'x' on it - totally muted.

I typically have my phone set to 'vibrate and then ring' so I don't switch to vibrate that often. So that is why I hadn't seen this before with this ROM.

AT&T Tilt

SPL 3.56

Dutty WM6.1 WWE Hybrid 24MBPP (4/1/08) build 19209.dutty's WM6.1

Radio: 1.58.16.27

So now I've made this happen in three different ways:

1) Install SPB time. It just spontaneously happened within 30 minutes of installing. No headset involved.

2) With MS Voicecommand v1.6.19209 - triggering voicecommand using bluetooth button. After 4 attempts at looking up a contact (and VC getting it wrong) the volume suddenly muted.

3) Now with no SPB apps installed at this point, and not using Voice Command (although it is still installed and running in the background) - just setting to vibrate and then using my Motorola H710 headset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flapjack:
I'm using ROMeOS v4 and haven't had the bug yet. I mostly keep the phone on vibrate, so the effect is lessened.

I'll put it on "loud" all weekend and see how it does.

This ROM does not have MSVC, which I definitely think is part of the issue. If all goes well for a week or so, I'll put MSVC on and see if the problem resurfaces.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
i think there is something to do with cplphone.dll & maybe its dependancies also responsible for this issue. just a guess :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
:D

First and foremast, thank you for taking notice of this thread!! We have been bumbling around this issue for what seems like eternity and you are the first current chef to post here. It has been like the blind leading the blind (no offense to anyone who has posted BTW. We have all been trying to figure at least what triggers the behavior but none of us have the development skills required to actually fix this). Of all people who have posted in this thread I think you have the most insight. :)

The questions is: with your vast skill and understanding of ROM development, do you have a solution? most that have posted here (including myself) have no clue what the cplphone.dll does and what its dependancies are. If you formulate it into your ROM, you have at least one devoted user for sure!!

Thanks again for jumping into the fray and hopefully you can help us all!!

I am just sooooo happy now!!!! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thedogger:
I second that - hang.tuah, thanks for chipping in and looking at this. I'm willing to test things if you need help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Just when we thought we had hooked a big fish, no more insight. :(

Please come back. PLEEEASSSEEE .. . . .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flapjack:
Have you tried ROMeOS V4 yet? I still don't have the volume bug.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gman8966:
I too have not had the volume bug with ROMeOS v4.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
using ROMeOS 4.1 and still have the problem. :(

It is like the internal speaker dies after I use my BT and never comes back EVEN though the volume indicates that it should be on. I posted a screen pic awhile ago and I still have the same issue: volume shows on but no sound is coming out. If I see the notification that I have a phone call coming in and I answer, I can have a conversation with caller.

Let me break it down one more time and maybe I'm just missing something:

Phone on + no BT = all sounds normal all day

Phone on + BT = all sounds ok to start with then no sounds from phone even though volume shows on and I try different things:

1. test ringtones using the phone settings

2. try to play music through Core, WM Player, HTC player

NOTE - BT does "beep" when phone is ringing and I can speak through it but it does not play the selcted ring either through BT or phone.

I can turn the BT off and no change once I lose sound from the phone.

I am using MSVC .209 tied to the PTT button but when I'm not using the BT, no issues. But using the BT (Jawbone BTW) eventually turns the speaker off and only comes back after SR.

Does this make sense? Is there a setting I am missing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] orflin:
I think I have found a simple solution for the problem with the phone just not ringing even though its set to do so, and it has been ringing for you before without making any critical changes. if you are using HTC Home, just go settings -> today -> items tab. then uncheck HTC home and click ok. test ur phone and see if it rings. if so, just go back and enable htc home. solved the problem i was having. hope it helps someone else
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flapjack:
I hate to say it, but this sounds like a different problem.... maybe we could call it "volume bug v2". The reason I say this, is I had a similar problem today.

During an approximate 2hr period, I didn't check my phone at all. When I did look, I had 3 missed calls and 1 voice mail. I was sitting next to my phone the entire time. First I checked the speaker icon in SPB. When the original volume bug would occur, there would be a yellow asterisk on the speaker icon. There was none. I then checked the volume sliders. It wasn't on zero as expected. Finally, I checked my voicemail, listened to, then deleted the message. I had my girlfriend ring my phone, and it rang just fine.

Now, pretty much the entire week, I've had the phone on vibrate. Partly because I'm at work 60 freaking hours a week... but also partly because the single, solitary ring tone hang includes in he ROMeOS roms absolutely sucks. I didn't get around to putting the standard WM ringers on until yesterday.

I'll keep the phone on loud all weekend still. I wanna see if this happens again. We really don't need vol_bugV2 when we haven't even figured out V1....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] timeslot:
Same problem here too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flapjack:
1st or 2nd volume bug?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcorom:
My 2 cents

I have experimented all of these behaviors. I have experimented them with VC and without.

with spb and without.

There have been times where flash the rom and then lower the volume to zero and i will not get it back up again.

it has happened with the official ROMs too.

and I have a Herald and a Kaiser. it has happened to both devices. The one consistent thing that i have observed if I have MSVC installed then i when i set for wired notifications only then i will hear my bluetooth sound (in my ear) but no ringer on the device itself.

I have researched in several forums and this is the only one where i have found that people actually take this issue seriously.

someone else said it before, the main function of this device is to be a phone.

sorry no answers here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flapjack:
ROMeOS v4 definitely brings a new volume bug to the table. This one is worse, yet better in a way.

On vibrate, it never happens. With vol_bug 1, the phone could go from vibrate to silent, though loud to silent was much more common. So in this aspect, vol_bug 2 is better for me. At least there is a setting where I know I will not miss a call.

With vol_bug 2, the phone often doesn't ring if it's been "asleep" for a while. If it's been recently used, it'll ring just fine. The worst part is, there is no way to tell if the bug has bitten. You can wake the phone and look at the sliders, and they're exactly where they're supposed to be. Just no volume.

I'm wondering if this is a radio issue. I'm using 1.65.24.36.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I'm using 1.65.17.56 . maybe 1.65.xx.xx issue.

I'm still thinking it is linked to MSVC (or PTT) and BT but I'm all out ideas.

I'm going to experiment some more and then jump out a window . . .:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Monkeyed around with MSVC but no change. everything fine with no BT. Problems returns after usung BT. I guess if no one else cares I'll drop it and live with it. Or maybe go to the dark side and get an (gulp) iPhone. I can't believe that I actually typed that . . . :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
heh, blasphemy :)

I completely disabled msvc with no difference as well. Only happens randomly after making BT calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] captainsensible2002:
One of our managers is seeing this issue on his MDA Vario III - the volume inexplicably drops to nothing although the volume sliders are at maximum. He doesn't use the profile selection buttons in HTC Home, and he is using the bog standard T-Mobile rom (WM6.0). Thing is, he is seeing this on the 3rd device running now!

Nice to see this thread, but there are lots of disparate situations where this is happening - has anyone contacted HTC about it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thatruth132:
i had this same problem and it was due to srs wow surround sound ... once removed it stopped
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
OK, SRS WOW is installed in L26 v9 but it is baked in. I have disabled and will test to see if any changes. Otherwise, anyone have the steps to remove it completely?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DisneyF1:
Mic Volume on BT problem

Okay, I have a situation I have not been able to find covered anywhere and this thread is as close as it gets, so...

My BT headphone suddenly stopped its ability to pick up my voice - or at least so low that is it only very barely audible to anyone on the other end or to voicecommand. The problem seems intermittent as it is fine once in a while, but mostly no one can hear me.

I've had a couple ROMS and versions of MSVC and even tried another BT headset with the same results. I added MicVolume to the gateway registry and set it to 10 and then to 14 with no sustatined improvement.

I really need to be able to use a headset so this situation is turning my stomach.

Any assistance or ideas are GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,

OZ

TILT

HTC ROM WM6.1 3.28.405.WWE

Radio 1.65.16.25

MSVC v1.6.19209

BT headset Moto HS850
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
have you tried a different BT headset to make sure it want't the headset that was failing? if so, and that isn't the problem, I'm not sure what could cause it. Definitely something a bit different than what is at issue here, but these days I suspect many things could be related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DisneyF1:
yeah, tried another headset - no difference. That's why I reloaded the ROM and then tried a different ROM. Same results.

another odd thing is that I can not get my files to list when attempting to insert an attachment to an email. It simply locks up while showing the frame for the file list. Probably not related, but odd that both problems happened at the same time.

-OZ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Is this a stock ROM? If not, try another and another radio. Make sure that you do a hard reset after flashing and before the customizations run.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
There is hope!

:)1/2 a day, WOW disabled, BT on, several calls in and out, MSVC used and still no volume drop! Could it have been this simple? Could it really have been this simple?!:eek:

Will report tomorrow, but if you have WOW enabled, try disabling. Could be the answer!:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] M1A1D:
Unfortunately, this happens regardless of ROM for me. Funny thing is, I KNOW its related to BT. Earlier today I actually watched Bug One bite. I received a call, ignored it, and heard a faint "click". Looked down and my screen turned off, then on with a low backlight. Looked at it, and it had switched to silent from vibrate.

Second time, answered a call from my earpiece, ended the call, heard the "click" and looked. Phone on silent again.

This bug has bitten on on all three Dutty ROMs that I've tried (APR29, Diamond, and 6.1 Beta), and the L26 V9 ROM. I'm to the point where I'm ready to go to the Bold and leave WinMo alone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aryehz2:
I found a 6.1 ROM that does NOT have this problem!

Hi aall,

I am excited to report that after trying several 6.1 ROMs on my Sprint Touch, I have finally found 1 that does NOT have the volume dropping or the ringer profile switching problems! :)

I think it may have something to do with location setting being more stable on this ROM. That's the only technical difference I noticed between this and the other ROMs. In the other ROMs I noticed that the location setting icon (shows up on the dialer and looks sort of like a cross-hairs, at least on my phone) would sometimes be on and sometimes be off. On this ROM it's always on.

It's here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31081

It's DHarvey's Vista ROM. Nice ROM. I am using the Sprint version but he has versions for other carriers too. Everything runs smoothly and it looks nice. It's very customizable.

My suggestion is that if you do flash to his ROM, you of course back up everything, do (2) hard resets and then flash.

Of course i am not guaranteeing it will work for you but i can tell you it works for me.

Good luck to all.

Aryeh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
I love the look of the ROM but as far as I could tell it was created for the Vogue not the Kaiser. Alas, we still await the answer . . .

Oh, BTW, disabling WOW stopped one of the bugs, but not both. . . :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mack1:
Guys, I have read most of this thread and have the same/similar issue.

I have used a the original rom for way over a year and only in the last two weeks made the effort the flash one of Duttys roms. It happened on both.

The unexplained drop in volume ONLY happens when i plug the phone into my THB car kit. It happens at least once a day. I usually notice when i try to make a call, it connects and we cannot hear each other.

Now i never use bluetooth, but have used MSVC for as long as i have had the car kit.

I always thought it was a problem with the USB on the car cradle. I also soft reset and it comes back working (although i never tried turning the volume back up).

This is the most irritating bug with my tytn 11.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] laakness:
Where is this SRS WOW software on the phone? Is it in the control panel? I'm not sure if it is even in my rom.