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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] titaniumtux:
OP suggests video calling through the stock dialer as a voip/video call through the wireless carrier's network. Similar idea to HD voice or wifi calling.

Assuming OP is in India or a neighbouring country (mentioned Indian variant of the Z Play), I don't know which providers offer this feature and which handsets would be compatible. No carriers where I live offer this feature.

It's a given that Hangouts, etc. will work via wifi or data unless VoIP is blocked by carrier/local government.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] larsdennert:
The Verizon version, and pixels, support Verizon video calling. Basically you can switch to video during a voice call and back. Other video chat apps you have to hang up and start the app, except for FaceTime.

Hangouts, Skype, Qik etc all suffer from other stupid problems like needing to create an account. Many have poor quality over cell connections. This includes Verizon. It often gets garbled as the encoding scheme is not fault tolerant and doesn't send key frames occasionally.

Google duo would be an exception.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coyotefiveoh:
google duo
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jldunn2008:
[MENTION]506238[/MENTION] [MENTION=506238]OMJ[/MENTION] I hope you can help me. I'm currently rooted, s-off, with twrp, and running Bad Boyz Sprint HTC Bolt ROM 7.0 Sense 8 v1.3

I have explored the rom and went down the list of mods and features and found everything except "tether/hotspot support" in my install....is there a 2nd step to enable hotspot?

I really appreciate the help!
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] OMJ:
Didn't my response on twitter help?
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jldunn2008:
Yes, thanks!
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jaken1913:
so how did you get the tether to work? thanks
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jldunn2008:
I hadn't activated my phone yet...I was waiting on a replacement SIM....got it today and once activated the option showed up in QS
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jaken1913:
so its because my phone is not activated yet? thanks OMJ and OP for help
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] OMJ:
Yep, certain settings don't show up until you activate on Sprint
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] jaken1913:
Thank you for your amazing work brotha EVERYONE give THANKS were it is deserved thanks OMJ
[HTC Bolt / 10 Evo Questions & Answers] Doctur:
Im buying this phone in a few days fir boost. I assume the rom is interchangeable like my prevail since boost is sprint...so huge favor can i get that ROM and its features, i have yet to ever run a custom ROM and would like to push its limits like i did with stock...
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
I just bought a factory unlocked htc one m9 and plugged the sim card in.

After cache partition wipes, two hour-long customer support calls, a factory reset, and a bottle of Tylenol, nothing happened.

(Okay, I'm joking about the Tylenol.)

The big issues are that the only mobile network operator detected in settings is AT&T, and that I can not change any APN settings (though they are T-mobile anyway, so that shouldn't matter.)

The T-mobile rep and I both checked, and the phone IS compatible with the t-mobile data bands in my area, so there is no physical reason that it shouldn't work.

Any help with this would be massively appreciated!
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
I had a similar problem with my phone (developer edition) when I first put in the sim card. A phone restart with the sim in it solved it right off.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
Okay, I just tried that and it didn't help.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
Now that you've restarted, try going into the network settings and manually choosing T-Mobile.

(Settings, Mobile Data, Network operators, search for networks)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
It doesn't find anything other than AT&T.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
I'm guessing that choosing the automatic option dues any good.

My next move would be to redo the setup process.... probably by resetting the phone. I'm off to Google the issue and see if anything comes up.

[EDIT] Before you do that, double check that your network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. Anything else will (artificially) limit you to 2G or 3G [/EDIT]

[EDIT #2] T-Mobile has the APN information for manual input. It may be worth trying to create a new APN profile to see if that makes a difference [/EDIT]
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
I tried both of those. Now I'm having issues even just connecting it to my computer over USB. (HTC site says there's a software update that I think might help, but the phone isnt detecting it)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
Ah. Probably worth applying the latest RUU. The executable is here - best to install it with your phone connected to your computer in download mode. Alternatively, you can use the SD card method, though you'll have to search around for the Android 7 Rui zip file.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
I think I'm going to have to use the SD card method - the m9 keeps disconnecting randomly over usb and if that happens during the install.... I'd really like to not brick the phone.

I've been looking around all over google and can't seem to find a .zip for the update, I found one in a thread on here (still can't link things yet, under ten posts) but the download site said file not found.

In addition, do I need to use S-Off before trying the update? In some of the forums that was mentioned but I think it was for a different version of the phone. HTC has the update files and doesn't say anything about it, but it also doesn't say anything about updating over SD card.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
Head on over to the General forum and check out the thread by Flippy498 about stock ROMs. It should be a few posts in, but the zip file is linked!
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
For anyone else having this type of issue - even though they're all unlocked, some versions of the htc one m9 (potentially other phones by HTC as well) are produced in different regions. The Taiwanese version does not have band 12, and others potentially lack other bands.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
Oh dear. I assumed that you were referring to the unlocked version sold directly from HTC, as opposed to a branded M9 (produced for a specific carrier & region) that had subsequently sim-unlocked.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
That's fine, I assumed I was too. Thank you again for all of the help computerslayer!
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] computerslayer:
My pleasure. Did you end up successfully getting the phone on T-Mobile?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iateapietod:
Nope! I'm trying to unlock the lte bands before using S-off (just because it doesn't seem like anyone's tried it yet.) I'll post results as soon as I finish trying, but it's slow-going.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] BlackKnight23:
What the difference? I've heard people saying different apps installed but I have zero Verizon apps on my device even first boot didn't have them.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Zero difference in software until you put a Verizon SIM in it. Then it downloads the VZ software. Google version does the same.

But after you let a VZ update to 7.1.1 you can no longer unlock the bootloader.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] roirraW "edor" ehT:
To clarify [MENTION=4998526]TonikJDK[/MENTION] 's response, if you have a Verizon Pixel and it has a 7.1.0 build on it such as NDE63X, and if you put a non-Verizon SIM in, the phone then "updates" to the latest non-Verizon Pixel build, which at that time would've been NDE63V, and which would then not have the Verizon apps included.

Likewise, if you had the Google Edition on NDE63V, it was reported that if you put a Verizon SIM in, it would "update" to the latest Verizon image (again, at that time NDE63X). I can personally attest to this because I have a Verizon Pixel and I happened to 1. unlock my bootloader using DePixel8, 2. I flashed the NDE63V non-Verizon image, and 3. Re-inserted my Verizon SIM (which I'm actually using in an HTC 10 right now) and I mistook an update that was offered shortly after as being 7.1.1, but instead it was NDE63X, the Verizon build. I ended up taking the SIM back out and reflashing NDE63V, which has since updated to NMF26O and then NMF26Q.

One question I've been wondering about and haven't noticed if it's been addressed anywhere, the 7.1.1 builds are all the same for Verizon and non-Verizon. They're all NMF26O for the first release of 7.1.1 and NMF26Q for the second OTA of it.

So I'm wondering if putting a Verizon SIM in does anything anymore if you're on a stock 7.1.1 image. I could relatively easily find out, but it's not a huge priority.

Also, as long as you already unlocked the bootloader, nothing will re-lock it, even Verizon OTAs, unless you manually do so.

No idea if there'll be Verizon-specific builds again later.

Edit: Might soon find out, reportedly there's a new update for Verizon soon: NMF26U. It's not on Google's page, at least yet. http://xdaforums.com/pixel/how-to/verizon-update-nmf26u-t3527199/post70281819#post70281819

Reference for factory image revisions: https://developers.google.com/android/images
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] BlackKnight23:
I'm on NMF26O
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Bloodcrav:
So if you buy a Google Play Pixel and use a Verizon SIM you risk the chance of being screwed by Verizon by getting their builds pushed?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
What do you mean screwed by Verizon? A Verizon phone and Google phone are different and the sim won't change that.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Bloodcrav:
If I get a Google Play Pixel and use my Verizon SIM I'll be getting Verizon OTAs instead of the Google version.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Developer options, turn off automatic system updates. Install them yourself from Google's developer page.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I'm not sure that is true, but even so they are the same. The updates are not what defines the device. Something else does and no one is saying or perhaps know.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You get the Verizon OTAs if you don't disable the option for automatic updates, but there's nothing screwing about it. The Google Play Pixel can be unlocked at any time so you can do anything you want to your phone. The only people screwed are those who are on 7.1.1 on a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bigsyd:
That being said, when I first boot up my new Pixel XL 128 on Verizon, I need to immediately go to developer options and shut down auto updates. I'm assuming I'll have to activate developer mode with the multiple taps one the build or something like that in ABOUT.

They pre-installed a SIM. So, I assume I'll have to rush to developer mode before it connects to Verizon. Although, I think I may have to call Verizon to activate the new SIM first.

Am I on the right track to avoid having bootloader locked?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
You have to remove the SIM before bottling. Then skip connecting to wifi
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] iamjerry123:
So if I'm already on the 7.1.1 update, there is literally nothing I can do to revert back to 7.1?

I am from VZ
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] roirraW "edor" ehT:
If you have the Verizon Pixel and you didn't unlock your bootloader before you got on 7.1.1, then correct.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bigsyd:
Thank you. I will give it a shot today.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] b00ster23:
Just setup 2 phones without updating from current version (7.1) by using the remove SIM/Bypass WiFi method. Updated them directly to 7.1.1 NMF26O and activated. Was done last night, and haven't had and VZW apps pushed to this point. Both rooted with TWRP RC1. Wonder if the newest build will push the apps. For my first Pixel, I had dropped down X and allow VZW to push out apps, the side loaded up to NMF26O. Either way, all 3 pixels work flawlessly.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
You know, I probably got the VZ apps because I have my Google account set to restore apps.... And I had them on my previous phone.

Not a big deal since any that are unwanted can be uninstalled.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Hi, how's it going?

NMF26O and NMF26Q are used by both Google and Verizon, whereas there were Verizon-specific builds before NMF26O. It's rumored Verizon is going to have a NMF26U, and I have no idea if Google will have the same one or if Verizon's will once again be different than Google's. Also, if you have automatic updates turned off for OTAs in Developer Options, nothing will be forced on you. If NMF26U or a later build will be Verizon only, you could get OTA prompts unless you have that disabled.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] b00ster23:
Going well "old" friend! Made the jump to the VZW variant while the jumping was good. :) FREE was a good price.

Spot on with the latest builds. I have APK backups of the VZW apps and can always add them into the other 2 phones, if needed.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] mac796:
Just fyi when I bought mine from Verizon it had 7.1. On it. I put SIM in it. I just made sure i didn't hit the new software update. I didn't have any problems. But it would be really easy to accidentally hit that update button
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
I got mine through best buy and SIM was preinstalled. Never got any Verizon apps when activated. Not sure why people care you can delete them
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] dnsource:
I got mine from BB. I purchased the Verizon pixel xl and popped in my AT&T sim without a problem. Should I try to unlock it or will I run into problems?

Carrier: At&T

Build # NMF260

7.1.1
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Too late, you are on 7.1.1. You are now locked and there is currently no way to unlock it.

Carrier dies not matter, it only matters if it's a Google phone or VZ phone. Once a VZ phone updates to 7.1.1 you are done, no matter where your update came from.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
This^. You can be 99.9% certain you will never see a bootloader unlock. Very unlikely to ever see root either then. New android makes it VERY difficult to root without an unlocked bootloader.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] b00ster23:
That's a pretty strong statement... Because we've already had one way to unlock it, what makes you think that [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] or [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] might not ever find a vulnerability in the VZW, TMO, etc versions again?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Well jcase stated he had no plans to look into it. And from my understanding the exploit used wasn't something they went digging for and was almost found by mistake. I think it's very unlikely the devs that could find these kinds of things will even try.

Also there is no T-Mobile varient. There's the Google pixel and the Verizon model and that's it.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] dnsource:
Is there anything I can do at this point to go back?!:crying::crying:
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
No.

Now maybe if something went wrong with it. And you called and nothing they tried fixes it the new one they send you would still be on 7.1
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Nope unfortunately not. If it is that important and you are within the return period I would pay the restocking fee and return it and get another one. If you are within the return period it doesn't matter WHY you want to return it. As of now the pixels are still shipping with 7.1. I would guess they wont be shipping with 7.1.1 for quite a while yet.

Or if outside the return window you could come up with an "issue" and just firmly push for them to swap it out for you.

If you do get your hands on another one do not let your carrier activate it on the spot. If so it will.check for updates and start to install during the setup. You have to take out the SIM and power on. Then skip connecting to wifi during setup. You can go right I to the settings and enabled developer options. Within there you can turn off automatic updates. Should take only 2 min to do all of that. Then you can let them activate it.

I did it when I got a replacement from best buy just to be safe. I opened it right in the store and turned updates off. Although the best buy guy was already familiar with why I wanted to do it. He also swapped my phone out without having to go through the return policy with Verizon
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] b00ster23:
Because it essentially uses the HTC platform, I wouldn't be surprised if another method was "stumbled" upon. Either way, one would want to jump on the unlocking prior to the next batch of Pixel phones are shipped with 7.11, if ever.

Correct on the TMO variant...my bad....the other variant is the EE
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] agentsmith988:
So if I run to Best Buy and pick a Pixel up with 7.1 and throw my Straight Talk sim in I'll still need to unlock the bootloader before going to 7.1.1?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Yes.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Why do you want to unlock the bootloader?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Not sure what the point of this question is?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Why do you care of the point? What is the answer?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Lol.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] FernBch:
Wait........

NVM
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
How do you flash this rooted kernel with a locked bootloader?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] FernBch:
Just caught that. NVM, I had a brainfart. Lol
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] user23785:
The only real difference between Verizon Pixel and Google Pixel is a locked bootloader. There are no any carrier-specific factory images for the Pixel. The December update proved it by having one universal build NMF26O for everyone. NMF26Q was just a hot-fix released later with literally two lines of code changed, first is MMS APN string for O2 and second is MMS APN string for China Unicom.

Even the November updates were the same way. Builds NDE63U (marked as "Europe") and NDE63X (marked as "Verizon") were exactly the same except NDE63X contained a tiny fix. That fix added one line of code to include New Mexico to the list of states where WiFi Calling is available for Verizon customers.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] dnsource:
I purchased at best buy when it first came out. So I'm definitely out of my return period. I wonder if they will eat up some type of"issue" and swap out the phone
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
Worked for me :) I even talked them into just swapping it and not doing the return through Verizon.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] blackhand1001:
The only primary difference is the bootloader not being officially unlockable on the Verizon ones. The rest is the same and they both currently run the same build of software.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] marcviado:
I have a Google edition pixel on 7.1 NDE63L I'm assuming I'm still safe to unlock bootloader and root. I have disabled the OTA for 7.1.1. my question is..I will be purchasing a prepaid Verizon sim and using it for Verizon. As long as I keep it on 7.1 and not update to 7.1.1 I should still be okay to unlock in the future am I right? I've read that once you stick a Verizon sim in it'll start installing Verizon apps and lock the bootloader completely.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
It's a Google edition correct? If yes, you can update, put any sim in it you want.... Wont lock the bootloader. No VZ apps are pushed unless you had a previous VZ phone and tell it to restore apps. Even then you just uninstall them.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] marcviado:
Yes it's the Google edition. So I can update right now to 7.1.1 and still unlock my bootloader on 7.1.1?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Yep, absolutely.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] marcviado:
Gotcha,thanks for that. I've been holding off on updating to 7.1.1 because I wasn't sure if I was able to unlock my bootloader after. So the Verizon pixel is the one that's unable to unlock bootloader once updated to 7.1.1 correct?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] FernBch:
Correct
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] gavinhungry:
I have a Verizon Pixel (and using a Verizon SIM) that I unlocked. I then flashed a stock factory image from Google (NMF26U, 7.1.1), which also included a new bootloader version. If I relock this device, can it be unlocked again later? Or is the phone forever a "Verizon Pixel"?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
If you relock it you are locked forever. Even if you could unlock it again....Never relock a phone once it is unlocked. Lots of folks have bricked themselves that way.

What are you trying to accomplish, Android pay or something like that? Flash a kernel that bypasses safteynet like Elemental or Franco, or the stock one that was modded to do this.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] jmartin72:
Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for anything after NMF26U, 7.1.1?
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] aholeinthewor1d:
No one is worming on it. The people who released depixel8 have no plans to even try. My opinion is that there will never be one for 7.1.1 or later
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I agree. Besides there is no reason for them to waste time on it. If you want an unlocked bootloader you can have it and still use the phone on Verizon if that is your carrier. VZW would lock it anyway with the next update.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] DaRkRhiNe:
So i have a pixel with G-2PW4100 model on 7.1.1 and NMF26U build number. I am running it on Vodafone sim in India and haven't put verison sim ever. Is there any chance for me to unlock the phone?? :crying::fingers-crossed:
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] jmartin72:
I can't unlock mine
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I used to think the model number was the determining factor if it was a VZW phone or Google Store phone. However, I don't believe that to be the case now. From my understanding if it's the 4100 it's a US phone and the 4000 is the international version, but I'm still not sure on that. Now I believe that the IMEI number is what identifies the phone as either vzw or Google. If it's a Google version you can unlock, if it's Vzw then you're out of luck this go round.

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Me either. But I don't want to. I have a 5x that I can unlock if I feel like it but I'm over flashing these days. I'm enjoying the stock experience and getting the OTA. The nice this about the OTA this time was that it actually loaded while I was using the phone. I guess that's because of the slot a/b thing. When it was done all it took was a quick reboot and I was updated.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] fletch33:
so looking for some support on what i should do since i got my 128 XL yesterday and did update before reading as i didnt know this would ever be an issue with this phone.

if i keep the locked one i have will i have to rely solely on Verizon for updates. its staying up to date on time that i am most concerned about.

thanks
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
So far updates are coming really fast even on the VZ ones. I suspect either Google controls the update process or there is a set in stone agreement with VZ. I really think Google controls it considering there is no special VZ image for the phone.