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[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
What's your definition of a completely clean flash? Titanium backup or not?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Titanium is what I used, so that should be fine
[Nexus 6P Android Development] JRW 28:
Clean flash with ti backup no GPS issue here. Excellent work here might I add also?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Just updated to the latest build and getting extreme lag and stuttering after install and setup. I installed by doing the following:

clean wipe (everything including storage)

flash latest vendor, latest Rom build, latest open Gapps pico, latest Magisk and reboot.

I'm after trying this 3 times now and getting the same result. Anyone else experiencing this ? Guessing I will have to go back to previous build for now.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] inimaitimepass:
Me had the same problem, even with the popular electron and flash kernels I couldn't resolve the lag and stuttering, especially in the fb app.

Then flashed franco kernel, lag and stuttering were gone. Try it!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mickyw1980:
Yes I will do and will probably be tonight or tomorrow ?

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I experienced that but not only on this rom. I would then leave magisk until I've rebooted and set up Google account etc. Reboot then flash magisk. I don't know why but never had that issue again doing this way.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Wiping cache and dalvik will solve this, its an issue with all roms
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to flash the latest build again tonight and I'll try some of your recommendations. Also, thank you for this rom frap129 ! Getting the best battery life and performance out of any rom I've tried so far. Keep up the great work !
[Nexus 6P Android Development] yusuo:
[MENTION=5051294]frap129[/MENTION] love your kernel and really eager to try out the ROM, its missing one thing for me though. Is there anyway you can add always show menu to the navbar,

As soon as you add this I'll be a believer, converted so to speak
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
What even is that feature? I've never seen it before
[Nexus 6P Android Development] yusuo:
Something like the below, look at bottom left corner. I hate having recents in the nav bar as I rarely use it. Every rom I've used has the option to replace it with menu option

Clicking button left soft key opens the app menu, as below
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Nekromantik:
Does this have DUI?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] note3userr:
My phone gets very very laggy when the battery gets low. Is this on purpose to save battery or is something up? Only happens on this rom
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Log?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] yusuo:
Are we able to request features like I have done above?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mickyw1980:
I am back on carbon, clean flashed, using open gapps this time, apposed to Beans dynamic like last time. Running very smooth but the error is still there on just eat app. It's working on every other ROM I've tried, very strange indeed. I've attached a log, it's the 1st time I've taken a log so hope it's ok.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Yes, but they may not get added. Feature requests are passed on to the team for discussion

The log is only a snippet, not the full log. Have you tested if you can get a gps lock with GPS Status and Toolbox from the playstore? Very helpful app
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mickyw1980:
Yes I can, that was what I first tried. Everything like maps etc is working just not the location option within that just eat app which I find strange. I've deleted data etc also from said app to no success. It isn't a biggie to me and im not bothered for a fix, I was just more curious to why it doesn't work on carbon.

Keep up the good work, cheers.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
I downloaded AGPS data and got a fix. Before that I also had issues
[Nexus 6P Android Development] deani77:
Just tried out this ROM yesterday.... Just curious to know.... I get BusyBox not found on this ROM. Was that normal?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Is there an option to change the size of the navigation bar ? Can't seem to find the option anywhere in settings so I'm guessing not ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mickyw1980:
Yeah I did that. I get a lock. I've no other GPS issues other than that certain app.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] dcillusions77:
[MENTION=5051294]frap129[/MENTION],

Would it be possible to get quick unlock on the lockscreen?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
No, not natively.

Already merged, will be in the next weekly :p
[Nexus 6P Android Development] vladniko:
Could we get quick pulldown from status bar?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
I'll bring it up to the team

No
[Nexus 6P Android Development] vladniko:
May I have some insight into why not?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] moi123:
Just dirty flashed the latest build + Electron v14, so far so smooth. :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
The team doesn't believe that it's a feature worth adding.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
*cough* onehandedmode *cough*

*cough* systemprofiles *cough*

:^)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
I'll look into one handed mode, but system profiles have already been decided against by the team
[Nexus 6P Android Development] nicholasknicks:
Is the option to disable Nav Bar available on the rom?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
It's the teams decision but personally I would like it to be added. Is it difficult to add or is it just simpler and makes the file size smaller for the rom that is the reason to not add it.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
More performance improvements are on the way :cool:

https://review.carbonrom.org/#/c/2370/
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mrcooter:
So still been trying to figure out why/when the hold back to kill app function disappeared. Was able to find the commit where it was merged June 11th and haven't seen any reverts.. but for the life of me not seeing the option. Haven't for a while. Can you shed any light on this for me please?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
I believe that was only for devices that used the expanded buttons settings (devices with hardware buttons). I'll look into it
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Is wakeblock support still integrated with the latest build ? Or will I have to flash the zip ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] spuri78:
already integrated.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Ok great. Sorry if this is a dumb question, since it's integrated do I need to flash anything or run the app ? First time using this.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] spuri78:
Sorry, I should have been clearer in my initial reply. Download the app, reboot and that's it. Btw, anything to do with wakeblock, you should raise it in [MENTION=7494055]DEVILOPS 007[/MENTION] thread.

Good luck!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Ok great, I'll try this out now.

For sure, I'll remember this for next time. Thanks again !
[Nexus 6P Android Development] spuri78:
No worries at all. Btw, here's the wakeblock thread. Sorry long day.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
You and me both lol No worries ! Thanks
[Nexus 6P Android Development] nicholasknicks:
Guys does the Rom have the option to disable navigation bar?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] p70shooter:
In the twenty hours since you last asked this you could have flashed it at least 10 times and found out for yourself
[Nexus 6P Android Development] nicholasknicks:
Smh ..Would it have hurt you if you just replied yes or no?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
Any particular reason why profiles won't be added?

It's just so convenient to be able to switch to 2G when connected to WiFi or toggle GPS seamlessly.

Even more? Nice!

Edit: could you please also take a look at the "cooler colors" option in developer options, which doesn't do anything? I'd love to have cooler colors than stock and normally use LiveDisplay for this when on LineageOS, but it drains the battery much faster, which is inconvenient.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Carbon isn't aimed to be a "custom rom", we want to be an OEM-stock replacement. System profiles don't really fit into that goal, as its not something you'd see in a stock rom. That being said, we will most likely be cutting back on many unprofessional features for our O release. I haven't found out why the cooler colors option is broken (yet), but if you're using a custom kernel like electron, you can use Kernel Adiutor to tweak kcal values to achieve the same effect.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
In angler specific news, this weekly includes Maple as the default I/O Scheduler, Which should improve UI latencies and idle battery at the cost of slightly higher CPU usage. The only feature that's been added in this build is Quick Unlock, which will automatically unlock the phone when the correct password or pin is entered without needing to press the enter key.

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[Nexus 6P Android Development] moi123:
What about an app like Power Toggles? You can set it up with a widget and a simple tap will do the trick.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
Thanks, will try that.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Um, please add this [MENTION=5051294]frap129[/MENTION] like seriously, please please do add this. I'd be happy to help test it and all but please God just do it!:fingers-crossed: You can literally give carbon Rom users xposed framework for nougat! I'd do a test build myself but my laptop's isn't good enough for compiling and all that unfortunately.

https://www.xda-developers.com/art-...1-2-adds-xposed-functionality-to-custom-roms/
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
As of right now, this will not be added. These patches introduce security vulnerabilities and are not (in the eyes of the Carbon team) safe to use.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Can I ask what the security vulnerabilities are? It would be nice to see it but I understand. By as of right now does that mean you are going to wait for for vulnerability fixes to it? Any chance of test builds or 2 channels of releases? Either way thanks for the swift response.:D
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
This method loads XposedBridge.jar without any signature checking or any security measures, so in theory, any jar file can be loaded by replacing XposedBridge.jar with it, giving intruders full device access. By "as of right now", I mean unless one of the Team leads says otherwise. Our current stance is to wait until the official xposed release, at which point it can be flashed on all devices without adding rom-side support.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Okay, I respect that. Is there any chance you could possibly give me a little explanation on how to do it because I think I could try it if I can get my hands on more ram as I would like to download the source or whatever and make the changes to test it for myself. Cheers:)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Relentless D:
Serious question (if this is too off topic, I'll pull it):

What is the obsession people have with exposed? Battery hounds trying to optimize as much as possible? I've personally never seen the need but people go crazy for xposed even to the point of rolling back to marshmallow.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mickyw1980:
I'm with you on that. Never used to use xposed anyway.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] bkayy:
Never understood it either
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
While I don't support it, you can try https://www.xda-developers.com/flashable-xposed-framework-android-nougat/ if you absolutely must have xposed
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I tried it but it just causes an infinite boot animation unfortunately so I guess it doesn't support angler. Thanks anyway, I'll just wait until it is officially released and works.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Lawlrus:
Xposed project needs nuked. Its nothing more then a rat nest of vulnerabilities for people that want to rip off hard working theme and app developers. I'd be happy if all ROM devs tell requests like this to pound sand.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I don't think you actually understand what xposed is for. In what way does it rip people off? There aren't any hacks that need xposed to do that and the point of xposed is for a lot more control like gravitybox, adaway from apps by using things like minminguard and many other things like saving battery like with amplify and boot manager and greenify xposed and many more. When officially released, it isn't just going to make you hackable but the current unofficial ones do cause vulnerabilities.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Lawlrus:
Say what? I've been in the custom ROM scene for way too many years to not know how xposed works, and or what it is.

If you have never seen lucky patcher, and don't see the inherent vulnerabilities, you might want to do more research .
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I know what it is and I know how that all works which you shouldn't even be making but does that app require xposed? No it doesn't. There is simply just a module to make it easier to use but the app works perfectly fine without xposed. Just because there is a module for it doesn't mean there are vulnerabilities in the device suddenly.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Lawlrus:
That's only an example, there are plenty of modules that were out when xposed was big, for other ways of patching apps to get no ads, and whatever else that were xposed specific. Anyways, I'm done with this conversation, have anything else to say, send me a pm.

Only stating that xposed is trash, and 80%+ of people only use it to rip people off, don't care if you agree with/like my opinion or not.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
90% of people use it for customisation and battery saving and other non illegal things. There's isn't any need to use xposed for hacking apps anyway. It really isn't trash as it is basically what made rooting android so popular. I know so many people that rooted for xposed and many who are still on marshmallow. This is the last I'll say about it but I just needed to let people know that xposed is great in everything it lets you do and was not made or developed for having apps but here and there a module might surface. If it wasn't for xposed then the modding community likely wouldn't be as strong as many people got into and still do root for xposed functionality.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] adinkwok:
We don't really need anymore discussion on who likes Xposed or what it's good for etc. We'll end that conversation here by saying that we will not be supporting it as long as it poses as a vulnerability.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
A small update on the performance improvement I linked a while back; after talking to Jake from AOSPA, I learned that iop gives little to no performance improvement on eMMC devices (like angler) and is more suited for UFS devices. He's still helping me find the necessary SEPolicies to get it working, however, it may not end up in an official build.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] E30Nova:
That's a pretty closed-minded view. Yes, you can use it for illegal things, but that doesn't mean the sole purpose of Xposed is for piracy. Torrents can be used for piracy but there's plenty of companies, including small devs that use them for legitimate reasons.

I loved having Xposed for tweaks that didn't "rip off hard working developers". One of my favorites was battery home icon, which, as the name implies, put the battery percent in the home button. It even made the home button circle decrease like the round battery icon.

Anyway, that's my soap box for the day.

Back to rom discussion.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Exactly my point and I completely agree with you but we should stop this conversation in this thread as per the OP request.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Hey [MENTION=5051294]frap129[/MENTION] I've been having some issues where my phone will randomly become unresponsive and extremely laggy and was wondering if you'd have any idea if it could be done, kernel, governor profile or mod related. It usually happens if I have my phone on for more than 4 or 5 hours and happens usually on browsers.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Have you tried wiping cache and dalvik? This happens to me, but only when I'm using Snapchat (which is a result of the app being ****ty because it even happens on stock)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I tried all that but to no avail. I'm temporarily trying PA rom to see if it is rom related or not and after a day or two of use, I don't have the issue on it which leads me to think the issue is rom related. I did also stop using upm and sdcardfs to see it that was causing the issue. So basically, I think I've narrowed it down to the rom, upm or sdcardfs. I'll try flashing carbon without these mods to confirm.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
It's that time of week again! This week, there have been miscellaneous fixes throughout the ROM, including updating and improving SQlite, updating libjpeg-turbo, some skia improvements, and a handful of patches courtesy of Motorola's opensource repos.

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[Nexus 6P Android Development] inimaitimepass:
Means, gotta flash stock N2G48B rom, before flashing the 7/25 build?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
No. If your bootloader is unlocked, you can just flash the radio and bootloader via fastboot. You don't have to flash these, the rom will work fine without them. However, we may not troubleshoot firmware related issues unless you're on the latest.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] inimaitimepass:
They are already inline with the latest. Just got curious coz you specifically mentioned "firmware". Thanks for the clarification. :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Angler is now the 5th most used Carbon device, beating out the OnePlus 2! Thanks for all the support, feature requests, and bug reports that make Carbon what it is.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Randomsmack:
I'm Digging this Rom , blurred effects is pimp sauce, on top of it's smooth experience= win
[Nexus 6P Android Development] moi123:
BBS "Alarm" stats not working

Does anyone use BetterBatteryStats, and if so do you have the "Alarms" stat working?

In mine it says "No stats have been collected yet" even after being idle for some time. Other stats are ok.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Kimbo82:
Are you using magisk? If you switch to supersu then it will work again.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
Is there a way to check the build status of the current weekly, such as jenkins for LOS? That would be very helpful to prepare for when it is released.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Our jenkins isn't as specific as Lineages, as it doesnt tell you what device is building unless you open the console process. Normally, builds are completed by 9AM EST, but we've been having uploading issues with our new mirrorbits configuration, so some builds have to be uploaded manually.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mrcooter:
Good to know. Take it Angler falls into that category this week just judging by the builds that are uploaded. But curiosity, since EST, where are you / the server?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
I'm in Michigan, but we have one download server located in Colorado, and another in the UK
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
This weekly is very minimal. The most important change that applies to angler is a battery life improvement for users of WhatsApp, Telegram, and Snapchat. Flash away!

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[Nexus 6P Android Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Do you mind sharing the WhatsApp improvement? Is it a wakelock you've limited? Thanks, as always the the ROM looks great!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mrcooter:
Gotcha. Spread across more so than I expected. Ha. I'm in Tennessee so was just curious. Thank you for the new update just posted too!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Not a wakelock, its a framework change that blocks the listed apps from using the Significant Motion sensor
[Nexus 6P Android Development] preference:
Do we need a new vendor image for this weekly?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] d1n0x:
There is no new vendor yet.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
I apologize in advance if this is a dumb question, 39999 is showing up in battery and I don't think I've ever seen it before. Anyone able to tell me what it is ? Running latest build with latest open gapps.

*Update* Figured it out. Was an app I had deleted. Required restart to clear.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] moi123:
I am indeed! After whitelisting BBS it works now. Wonder why Magisk does that.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] russian392:
Used to use carbon back in the day on 4.0-4.4, time to try it out one more time. Hows the battery life? Before i got my 6p replaced battery life was stellar on Stock + EX, now its utter trash on stock 7.1.2, 7.1.2 with EX and with O beta, O beta is a bit better but....3.5hrs sot? thats down atleast an hour from what i used to have.

Also do you recommend using a custom kernel or is the one included good enough?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Battery life is slightly better than most ROMs due to our simplicity and power management improvements. While I personally recommend Electron Kernel (may be a little biased here), the stock kernel also has decent battery
[Nexus 6P Android Development] rich6619:
Everyone is different but I'm averaging about 3.5 hrs sot on stock kernal no other tweaks applied. Waiting for Electron v15 to come out and going to flash that.

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Yup electron is for sure my go to kernal. This rom is already smooth and stable as hell, but when paired with electron it's goes beyond that for me somehow. Thanks again for the great work Frap129.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Lawlrus:
Best thing to always do is to try the stock kernel first, then go from there.

This is a Nexus, that means things work,and they work well, meaning quite a bit of people that release ROMs do take the time to put some of their own work into them as they are less testy then other devices that don't have full source given.

Also with everyone using their devices and expecting different things, a suggestion to use a specific kernel is situational. I always make a full backup of a rom, and use flashify to make a backup of the stock kernel so if I want to try various kernels, I can flash back to the original kernel before switching. Worse case u always have a full back up.

One thing to note that people seem to forget a lot these days is with bug reports you're normally always requested to be on stock kernel. Another reason to have backups, to verify there if you have an issue but flashed something.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] greenlp_87:
After 3 days using this rom im falling in love with this rom... Kuddos to the dev:fingers-crossed: ram nabagement quite good. Battery also not drain. Im using stock kernel only.. yet to found any bugs on the latest build.. :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
I think the stock kernel doesn't support f2fs
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
No it doesnt
[Nexus 6P Android Development] syrkles:
When using this ROM with microg it does not bind unifiednlp to system. Is there a reason y
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
The ROM doesn't have full microg support
[Nexus 6P Android Development] syrkles:
Sorry thought it did
[Nexus 6P Android Development] frap129:
Due to the August security patch dropping late last night, weeklies will be delayed for at least a few hours, but should all be completed today.