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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
How is swappa usually for international selling? Do people ship to other than US? For example , I'm in Croatia, Europe.

Checked swappa the other day but there seems to be none of moto maxx currently for sale..

I was just thinking , is it smarter to take moto maxx, or let's say non updated droid turbo, the less touched the better ( for europe, but talking in general also) given that they cost same (when you ad cost of sunshine for DT).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Last time I checked (in December) the most recent Moto Maxx XT1225 on Swappa was sold back in November -- and since last August there's been an average of more than one per month. That one in November lasted only 15 hours before being sold.

Set up an email alert. I know someone else who is waiting on one!

See here...

Where to buy an XT1225 (Moto Maxx)

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3524051
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fahad_Mahmood:
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Hi ChazzMatt,

Thanks for the reply.

Then i think i should wait a bit more for someone may able to get work around to unlock a boot loader.

One more thing, i was digging on internet and found multiple issue regarding proximity sensor not functioning properly once you upgrade your device on marshmallow. I think that is the issue with my Droid turbo after an upgrade.

In-fact i have resolve dialer and camera apps issue by upgrading both the apps manually but when received a call from someone screen stays blank for at least 10-20 sec.

Regards,

Fahad
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
I have few options so thinking to go with moto maxx or untouched virgin droid turbo.. That's my dilema right now. I've sold G2 when update arrived, so I'm using Turbo now and really really like the phone, no question about it..

Current dilema: Buy used for who knows how long moto maxx , good condition but still signs of wear on the body, no box and accessories , shipping option is "fast" or

Buy "virgin" new droid turbo with stock firmware , shipping option is very slow , both phones get to about same cost when you count on sunshine unlock for droid turbo.. As far as I know , unlock is in the end achieved by "burning" specific qfuse and that process is not reversible, so phone is basically moto maxx then with no fear of bl locking again.

Sorry guys to go offtopic , well it is kind of a option to unlock bootloader, so not completely off topic lol..

Back to topic :

Whatever happens , i'll contionue experiment and work on this , but like I said many times before, without some extra help, it ain't gonna happen..

Most recent thing I'm doing is trying to trigger WP off to achieve perm root on stock firmware ,which should be flashable through fastboot / RSD due to signature staying the same..

Minimum thing I want to do is completely debloat stock firmware img and keeping it in flashable form. But right now have the most problems with my own envieroment , have only 1 laptop , and don't have full linux on it , only cygwin.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] imcensored1:
i have an extra box i can install any version of Linux on. I still need to use my phone as a phone, but i am willing to help where i can. (short of intentionally bricking my phone).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] imcensored1:
looks like i just picked up a droid turbo with 5.1 still installed. if this is the case when i get it, i'll run sunshine, and migrate that to be my current phone, allowing me to use the droid turbo in my pocket as a testing device. i'll update when the phone arrives.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
So from this week I'm not on vacation now so don't have free time a lot anymore.

Didn't really try anything useful with phone, I'm just using it as is.

Anyway I have ordered Moto Maxx from Usa (XT1250) , mint condition but without box and stuff , it should arrive within a week, and of course I will sell droid turbo although I'm having hard time selling it. I've expected it to be hard to sell because nobody knows what it is, but this is becoming really annoying.. Get all sorts of stupid offers and questions , accusations and who knows what. Since it's for sale , I won't experiment with the phone anymore because I think the only thing that can sell it right now is the fact that it's in mint condition, barely used..

When Maxx arrives, I'll continue to experiment on it, but if nothing is to be discovered i'll just unlock the bootloader the usual way..

Thanks a lot, I'll update you all when I continue working on it.. In the meantime, what all of you can do is to try bring as many experienced developers as possible on this one. Also , forcing motorola / verizon with some petitions is option, but everyone have to engage in it. Also I see that survey has been answered with good response, it's something for guys like Sunshine to think about it.. If everyone who answered that they want to unlock bootloader paid let's say 30$ , plus there are probably people who want it but didn't vote, that already some reasonable ammount of money..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] imcensored1:
Understood. I really don't have time to dig deep and do the research needed to give myself direction as to what i should do to try to accomplish this, but i can set up an environment and follow directions and report back on results. The new (to me) phone should arrive here tomorrow, I'll spend the weekend migrating to that device, and installing Linux on my spare computer. I had originally developed that PC to run MacOS, but i ended up scrapping the idea when i purchased a Mac Book Pro for work. So i would assume with a headless Linux distro (No Gui), speeds for phone purposes should only be limited by the speed of the phone itself.

If you decide to test anything with the Maxx and want to see results with a Turbo, let me know and i'll run the tests here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
So my Moto Maxx finally arrived today! As I excpected, phone was mostly stuck at the customs even tho I ordered it through global shipping program and all of the import charges were paid in advance.. It took less to arrive from Las Vegas to Croatia, than for them to clear customs..

I won't do a review or anything because that would be offtopic, but in short, phone really is mint, but like I said , no box , no charger or anything. And as I was affraid, phone does have screen burn in at status bar.It's not too bad but it's there, and I told to seller not to send it if it has screen burn in of any sort. Also it's red kevlar and feel in hand is much better than I thought. I love it!

Phone is virgin, on 5.1 lollipop , LOCKED bootloader status Code : 0 so never unlocked.

Went to motorola's site, tried couple of times , and when I sorted the blank spaces, and confirmed, got mail from motorola in a seconds with my bootloader unlocking code.. Didn't unlock it, i'll keep it virgin for a while to do some testings.

On moto maxx , bootloader can be relocked? Asking for testing purposes..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Uhmmm... if it's "Moto Maxx" it has to be 5.0.2 if "virgin". The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx only got 5.0.2 from 4.4.4, and the XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 to 6.0.1. Neither Moto Maxx model got 5.1 -- only the XT1254 Droid Turbo got 5.1. (Yes, MONTHS after the Droid Turbo got 5.1, Motorola then gave 5.0.2 to the U.S Moto Maxx XT1250. Go figure.)

You can look here and see there's no 5.1 for XT1250 or XT1225:

EVERY QUARK FIRMWARE EVER RELEASED

http://www.filefactory.com/folder/f9d1880e6c5b4800/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=50

Since it's red kevlar, then that means it's the 32GB U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. The XT1225 only comes in 64GB kevlar + ballistic nylon. ALL the Quarks have kevlar, but some then also have black ballistic nylon over that. The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is the exact same device as the XT1254 Droid Turbo (same radio bands, same FCC ID), but with easily unlocked bootloader. It's basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
Sorry, mistake. Now I checked , it's on 5.0.2 LXG22.33 . It's XT1250 .Also forgot to mention, I've sold my droid turbo.. It was a great phone , this kinda is a "downgrade" in a way or upgrade depending how you look at it..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Unless you had 64GB Droid Turbo, in no way is this a downgrade. It's the SAME phone but now you can unlock your bootloader, whereas before with the Droid Turbo on Marshmallow, you could not. It's an upgrade in every way.

If you want "stock" Marshmallow, instead of Lollipop, [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] even made a stock-based Marshmallow ROM that will run on the XT1250. It's based on the XT1225 Motorola Marshmallow update, but will use the radio you have installed.

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This stock-based TWRP flashable Motorola Marshmallow ROM has a custom kernel to allow it to work on XT1254/XT1250/XT1225. You need to have an unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery to install it.

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

Stock 6.0.1 MPG24.107-70.2 (Brazil) for Verizon XT1254/XT1250

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KARIM9377:
you give me a hope that i can unlock my droid turbo XT1254 bootloader with marshmallow 6.0.1 I hope you can do that
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
Didn't meant downgrade as in terms of model , they are same phones obviously but with that unlockable option, but rather in terms of giving up on mint phone with box , accessories , turbo charger for phone without all that for same price and obvious screen burn at status bar area. Have to order turbo charger too, it's almost impossible to charge it without one.

I hope too, but it's very unlikely.

I unlocked my moto maxx in seconds, couldn't really hold myself not to.. In attachment there is my unlock data and unlock code I got within seconds in email from motorola. My unlock code starts with 3 but next digit is 6 and not letter, so there really are endless options..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Ah, you meant the condition of the phone you gave up to get this one. OK.

You've probably already done all this, but in case you haven't, I wrote a guide specifically for Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo you can use for root, TWRP, replacing unlocked bootloader warnings, boot animation, etc.

Welcome to the club! You can now install custom ROMs and everything!

[UPDATED GUIDE] How to unlock your MOTO MAXX/MOTO TURBO bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access

https://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/general/guide-how-to-unlock-moto-maxx-moto-t3455341
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KARIM9377:
try have look at HTC unlock bin code it same way with Motorola but HTC unlock code coming as (BIN) file not numbers
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
Hello friends.I have droid turbo.I bought i few days ago, second hand.The guy before me, was updated to android 6, and i cant unlock the bootloader,install recovery, and custom rom.I try half a day, and the phone has some boot problems.At the final, after trying evrything the phone runs i updated the radio, because when i was touch the wi fi icon, the phone was restarted.After radio update evrythings is okay, but no luck.Can anybody tell me, what to do to unlock the fuc*ing bootloader and install recovery+ custom rom.Thanks

android 6.0.1

built number- MCG24.251-5

system version 24.81.5.quark_verizon.verizon.en.US
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
For the Droid Turbo XT1254, Sunshine to unlock bootloader only works on Verizon Lollipop firmware. You're out of luck if you already updated to Marshmallow.

It's all detailed in this unlock guide.

[GUIDE] How to unlock your bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3292684

Verizon demands to Motorola the bootloader stay locked. The sibling Quark Moto XT1250, which is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID, same radio bands) and runs on Verizon with a Verizon LTE SIM card just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6 has free unlock code on request from Motorola. As do all the other Quarks, like the Moto XT1225.

Only Verizon's Quark phone has this bootloader nonsense.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
Can not unlock with Sunshine.It required root, but I can't root it.I don't find way to root and unlock with sunshine..I am freaked off.Before the droid turbo have Xiaomi Redmi note 4,and the same **** locked bootloader.I hope that somebody will help me to unlock it, and flash recovery
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I've already answered your question. You're out of luck if you updated to stock Marshmallow before unlocking your bootloader.

Read:

And you can't downgrade bootloader with a locked bootloader.

The guy who started this thread [MENTION=5635882]EjđiSixo[/MENTION] gave up, sold his Droid Turbo XT1254 with stock Marshmallow and bought the clone XT1250 with free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Your only answer is to sell your Droid Turbo and

get Droid Turbo XT1254 with bootloader already unlocked by previous owner

get Droid Turbo XT1254 that has not yet updated to Marshmallow (still on Lollipop or even Kitkat)

or buy the Moto XT1250 (basically it's the dev version of the XT1254 Droid Turbo)

if you don't need Verizon, you can also buy the Moto X1225, the "international" version of Quark with more LTE and HSPA bands, but no CDMA. (LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. I own three Moto XT1225, to use on AT&T.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
Thank you for the answers.I gave up too, now my phone work fine with android 6.0.1.I will use it, and will not try again to root, to flash or something other.I have another question.Is there way to remove the trash apps of verizon,kindle and other, because i don't use it, and can't uninstall it.Thank you
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Go to Settings -> Apps. Choose the app you want to get rid of and select Disable. The app will not be uninstalled, but it will disappear from your app drawer and you will never see it again until you re-enable it.

Sometimes you have to force stop the app before it will let you disable it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
I removed/disable it, they really dissapear from the app drawer.Back to this threat,if anybody find the steps to goback from android 6.0.1

(built number- MCG24.251-5;system version 24.81.5.quark_verizon.verizon.en.US) way to unlock the bootloader,install recovery please write up.I try yesterday all day, to unlock, or to downgrade to 5.1, but can't.Is there anybody who try to downgrade and unlock except me?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Of course other people have tried. What do you think this thread WAS about? It's impossible.

Go read this answer. And this guy is an expert, he's part of the Sunshine team. Ignore what he quoted, pay attention to his actual answer at the top. If it were possible, he would tell you because then you could use Sunshine ($25) to unlock bootloader.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70290078&postcount=21

I've told you what your choices are.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70706776&postcount=74

Asking again and again won't change the answer.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
Read the whole thread. It's exactly what I was starting to do and still trying but need help. I got moto maxx and unlocked it, but still want to try to unlock turbo's for you guys.

Some of your options are :

-sell droid turbo and get moto maxx ( on ebay there is currently only 1 seller that sells them 2nd hand and I wouldn't recommend buying from him, got my maxx from him)

-Start a petition, but I don't think we can collect 500 signatures which is needed at least to try something

-bring more developers to this thread

-try go kexec kernel route and safestrap / bootstrap style, maybe some dev can develop something like this, lik for old droids

-brute force which I explained in this topic

-Get as many people as possible to send email's to motorola and verizon forcing them to release unlocking codes because phones with MM have problems.

-Get as many people possible to pay around 25 -30 $ per person to collect money for bounty for guys from Sunshine or similar to atempt the unlock on MM.

Ask yourself why you really want to unlock / root. If it's good phone and you just need root because of titanium backup / bloat then I woul recommend keeping the phone . I was in same situation, only I bought now moto maxx and sold the turbo and now I see this step was basically unnecessary
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KARIM9377:
i still have hope to unlock my droid MM the MM so bad on droid i love the droid
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
No hope guys.My stupid droid turbo have battery drain on android 6.For one night 20% of battery.I am pissed off, and will sell this **** called droid turbo and will buy china smartphone to unlock root flashing and evrything i want...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Motorola/Lenovo is Chinese. ;) And you can easily unlock every Motorola phone -- EXCEPT Verizon. VERIZON (the carrier) is your problem, not the manufacturer. Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 is a Verizon phone.

If dev work like rooting, custom ROMs are important to you, why didn't you RESEARCH here on XDA first before buying that phone? Here on XDA, in this forum devoted to the Droid Turbo, information like that is easily available!

It's well-known Verizon locks down their bootloaders. Some locks can be bypassed, like with Sunshine -- but there's limitations on such hacks. For instance, on the Droid Turbo Sunshine only on certain firmware version, Verizon Lollipop. IF you didn't know that, you would easily find it out here in this forum! Your issue is you bought a phone without researching.

With research, you could easily have

bought a Droid Turbo that was already unlocked by previous owner

or bought a Droid Turbo that had not yet been updated to 6.0.1, and unlocked it yourself with Sunshine ($25).

or bought a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (exact same phone as Droid Turbo XT1254 under another name -- same radio bands, same FCC ID) or Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 (same phone, but some slightly different radio bands) and easily unlocked the bootloader for FREE.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
Buddy, till this moment, i changed so much phones, that you can't dream it.To the moment, each phone in my hands, was root,recovery and tested with custom roms.This is the first phone, that i can't do anything.For this reason, i published it for sale.It's a shame 3900mAH battery to make 20 % drain without using for 8 hours...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
Maybe we can change the title of this thread to: "One guy's decision to buy a Moto Maxx and sell his Droid Turbo"?

It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the original title.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
At the top of page 3 of this thread [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] (Sunshine team) basically shut it down by stating what the rest of us had already stated:

But people don't like the truth, so they kept posting, complaining... and yes, after that the op [MENTION=5635882]EjđiSixo[/MENTION] sold his Droid Turbo XT1254 and bought the clone Moto XT1250 -- and promptly unlocked his bootloader.

Perhaps [MENTION=5635882]EjđiSixo[/MENTION] can re-name the thread so that it doesn't say "Coming soon?" It's not.

And maybe some other title changes to discourage people from posting about how they have updated their Droid Turbo XT1254 to 6.0.1 and can't unlock their bootloaders? We know. And water is wet.

We're here to help people, but the necessary information is already all over the forum. There's even a GUIDE here in General about HOW to unlock your bootloader -- if you are still on Lollipop. And clearly tells you it's not possible if you are not. At this point in time, this thread isn't doing any good, and even some harm. People get their hopes up and we have to tell them there is no Santa Claus.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] galev_90:
Hey guys, don't take it so personaly.When i paid to use their product,i must do what i want, right?.WHen i give money, i must do want i want with whis phone.For me, this is impossible some stupid carrier, to make that ****.Decision for me- sold the phone.Don't jugde me ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
That's how it should be. We bought the phone, it's ours, we should be able to do with it what we please. Hopefully in the future this will be the norm.

However people here have offered the opportunity to let you use your phone the way you want for $25, a tiny fraction of the cost of the phone. So your loss. Next time buy a phone that's bootloader unlockable out of the box.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EjđiSixo:
Originally , it was EXPERIMENT instead of COMING SOON? but it did confuse a lot of people so admin changed the name although I think this is more confusing. And this is exactly that , an EXPERIMENT. Basically I tried something that most of people won't do because of various reasons like bricking a phone and so on. On maxx, I can continue experimenting, only lately, time is issue for me . I did do some dissasembly of hboot , which contains quite some interesting stuff regarding BL unlock , but I'm always stuck at one point due to lack of knowledge, and as you can see not a lot of more experienced jumped in and gave some directions or decent explanations except : it can't be done. Wow, well obviously yeah!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lem22:
Hmm... (36^(20)/3.5)s > 11 sextillion years. :silly:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
We'll have a SunShine update soon (that's the only ETA that will be provided) for these Turbos that magically upgraded themselves to Marshmallow before the user was able to unlock the bootloader.

--beaups
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
User's great great great grandchildren would graduate college before they could bruteforce it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Spott07:
Presumably, "soon" is somewhat less than 11 sextillion years.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
The timeframe for releases is always soon™. Soon™ is defined by Blizzard Entertainment to be sometime between now and the end of the universe, preferably (but not guaranteed) to be closer to the now side.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Are you positive that Blizzard guarantees their releases to be before the end of the universe?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Hopefully people will just pay the money and not try to hack sunshine. Thankfully there won't be another OTA for people to magically install.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I believe "magically" should have rolling eyes emoji or surrounded by quotes.

At least this guy admitted he installed the update (not the OTA, he actually flashed the full update file), although he claimed he couldn't find the highly visible unlock/root thread.

https://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/how-root-install-cm-14-1-t3557825
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
The rolleyes were implied :P
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
SunShine 3.4.27 supports Droid Turbo on 6.0.x thanks to the always amazing [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION]

Forget trying to downgrade, its no longer needed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KARIM9377:
the great team SunShine did it

i know you will do it thanks [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and my best for [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION]
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
I see this and I cry in pain when I see that it needs 25$ :P

It would be acceptable if it were for 10$ or 15$ but 25$ is really high especially that Droid Turbo is an old device and can be found for 100$ or less in eBay!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
You are welcome to pour years of work and $10000s into making a similar tool, and releasing for $10.