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[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Miche1asso:
Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "

it is lagging very bad in many places

"

Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.

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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?

Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?

Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before

You could test them yourself

See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing

But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] dcro95:
I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Miche1asso:
That is correct. Then technically without root those tools aren't even supposed to work. Not at 100% at least. I mean, they do work somehow. But if a system parameter is readable by root only (as it happens with many of them using "Kernel Toolkit") they show as an error or as disabled (depending on how the developer implemented it).

I tried looking a bit via adb but all the sys params I checked were unreadable. Now I am not sure which ones those apps are checking, but I strongly suspect that for cores 4&5 for regular users the state ON/OFF of the core isn't readable. The CPU load instead it is, but that may use a "licit" system call for normal users.

I'll try to push a busybox if I find a writable area and check with it. I mean, without root it's a nightmare to dig out these things..

I don't know what is causing the micro lags. I have read that since Lollipop (or even KitKat?) Google claimed that the images are produced at 60 fps. And that clearly wasn't the case in various smartphones I used. Right now I am checking scrolling the notification panel and it seems smooth to me. Not iPhone smooth but smooth. Swiping the Xperia home instead I do get micro stuttering. But again, I am so used to them that I don't even bother anymore.

Regarding the games, I don't play them, so I can't compare. But my Antutu benchmark seems indeed a bit lower. I think I was getting 77K instead of 74K. Which is a bit surprising because I thought to remember that Antutu 3D was performing worse. Still, we are talking about a 4-5% difference. if the cores were always off Antutu would probably report a 60K. Maybe a bit more, depending on how much the graphics benchmark weights.

But in conclusion my opinion is that those cores are on. If there is any performances issue that could be with the new OpenGL/Vulkan drivers. I may be wrong but still I expect many updates incoming. Also because what I hate the most about Nougat is that half of the Xperia customisation (themes) went to hell. And I hope Sony will fix it ASAP.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] kwaille:
Very laggy in games for me.

Cpuz gives me 0% usage.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
Yeah I guess you are right

But Im still feeling bad lag when there are say 4 instagram notfications...

Anyway, a bug fix would be awesome
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] crazy-gump:
I've tested some games no problem, Autuntu gives me 81k (while charging) and it also show pourcentage before the "no activity" label so it's look more like some flags pb
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Hyp3rdr1v3:
Any update on this? Have others experienced any cpu issues? Looks like Nougat just hit UK custom firmware
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Humanio:
I just got the update on my gf's UK phone this morning. Started the update process and its well into 20 minutes and still not done. Nearly there, but don't freak out if the update takes forever. I'll chime in once I get a chance to gauge its performance. I've read that certain themes don't look or function properly which is a bummer. Will confirm later today.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Maciek602:
Is the problem solved in new update?

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/12/27/minor-update-34-2-a-0-273-hits-the-xperia-x-and-x-compact/
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Miche1asso:
Judging from xpericheck.com I think that update is for network carriers only. There is only Customised GEL with the 273 version.

Instead I have been running Antutu again and I have got more than 80K. In Marshmallow I was getting 76-78K. But I see Antutu has been updated because of a bug, so I don't know how much reliable it is. I attach a screenshot anyway.

Regarding the games, there are some that don't even start in Nougat (FF VII to name one). So they are not really the best apps to evaluate the phone. Still there is the question why the two cores show just after boot e disappear after the first screen lock. I just tested it now Bizarre.. But again, it could be a bug in the function showing those values.

Actually.. I can try running an Antutu benchmark just after booting the phone. Let's see if I get higher values. I'll report back.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] DannyWilde:
Could you make a test with candy crush? Someone wrote it does run very leggy even after a reboot. I'm still on MM, so i can't test.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] DannyWilde:
Sorry, auto correction :) I ment "laggy" ;)

Thanks a lot for your test.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Miche1asso:
So I did the test. The first picture is from Antutu with the cores showing as OFF. The following just after reboot, with the cores showing as ON. Please notice how the CPU benchmark with the cores "off" is even higher. But that's due to the variable results doing benchmarks. Also notice how, with the cores "on", Kernel Toolkit doesn't show the highest 1.8GHz frequency (after running Antutu!!). While I've seen it in real time appearing under the cores graphs.

Even better I've pushed a busybox in /data/local/tmp. The applet "mpstat" shows all cores as running:

F5321:/data/local/tmp $ ./busybox mpstat -P ALL
Linux 3.10.84-perf-g3245575 (localhost)	12/29/16	_aarch64_	(6 CPU)

09:04:28 CPU %usr %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %guest %idle
09:04:28 all 15.69 1.39 7.31 0.39 0.00 0.32 0.00 0.00 74.90
09:04:28 0 17.66 1.51 11.69 0.70 0.00 0.53 0.00 0.00 67.91
09:04:28 1 19.56 1.67 7.43 0.43 0.00 0.24 0.00 0.00 70.67
09:04:28 2 13.61 1.26 5.14 0.28 0.00 0.31 0.00 0.00 79.39
09:04:28 3 8.94 1.08 4.06 0.27 0.00 0.16 0.00 0.00 85.48
[B]09:04:28 4 27.12 1.36 12.36 0.02 0.00 0.12 0.00 0.00 59.02
09:04:28 5 24.53 1.56 9.27 0.01 0.00 0.93 0.00 0.00 63.69[/B]

So that's it. The bug is in the apps reading the cores statistics.

PS: [MENTION=5908784]realtuxen[/MENTION] The dialer and the contacts apps are a bit of a mess indeed. Sony removed the Java code for the themes for starting. And yes, I notice now that scrolling through the recent calls it lags quite noticeably.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
Yeah it looks like kernel toolkit 'time in states' only see/log the small cores (because they only go to 1.4GHz) just like geekbench 4 for example, however the big cores are used.

BTW. The new Geekbench 4 did also only see the small cores in MM and and right after a boot in N, although it uses all cores both in MM and nougat.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] magicaldeck:
Thank you for sorting this out! I just got the phone and was monitoring this thread. Now I am comfortable moving forward to nougat. Still waiting on the update - hopefully it'll come in 2016.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
I have some updates (nothing serious) but it is almost 7am and I need a little sleep before tomorrow (eh today). Will update them. Stay tuned. :)
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Raïos:
So can I update to nougat or it will lags because it blocks 2 cores? :)
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
Yikes i totally forgot this.

Sure. There is nothing wrong with the cpu behavior at all no cores are 'blocked'. And I do not think you eill perceive it as lagging at all. Except for the last call list in the odd dialer that you most definitely will perceive as lagging. Heh

I heard from one here that it breaks some old themes and they need to be updated to work. I do not use themes but i did try some that where said to work on every version, and they did work on nougat indeed too.

Again sorry i forgot this thread, the updates i was going to write where about: equal to faster gaming (I had the chance to compare directly against a XC running MM) , the dialer (google alternatives that does not lag like stock) , less ram usage, and how nougat optimizes apps (there is some real interesting stuff here), new security (why we can not see cpu state without root). All positive in my mind (I can write about it further in the weekend) . I see no reason not to upgrade at all, except if maybe you are seriously into some old theme(s) that won't be updated and you cant fix yourself, but again personally I have not confirmed this. I will as said try and write it up in the weekend.

Meanwhile if you are interested in the follow-up that is, I would say go ahead and update. :)

Best regards.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Raïos:
Thank you to answer as fast. I'll update tonigh so.

No problem with theme, I only use stock theme. ;) All I need on smartphone are only some apps. I hope they'll run on nougat, I need it tomorrow.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
I do not think you will have any problems all the apps I've come across works fine on nougat. You might notice the install time is very fast. (the part about how N optimizes apps, there is more to it though) But I am at work, luckily its weekend soon. :)
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
Update on the matter: So finally I unlocked bootloader, rooted and flashed genesis kernel and I set both cpu freqs from 400MHz to their max(1.4 and 1.8) with ondemand governor and I can definitely confirm that all those lags in notification bar and telegram app, etc... are gone for good.

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I still dont know what was the problem with stock rom and kernel though because tests showed that it was apps misbehaving...
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] tempurastyle:
Is there any impact on battery life after this tweak?
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
Not very much but if there is it's better than before not worse
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
I honestly do not see how setting the idle frequency to max would help lags when scrolling the call log, notifications, etc the cpu usage is around 15 percent and the cpu scales really well. The dialer is clearly broken if you use Google stock dialer that looks exactly the same but does not do thee weird expanding of names it does not lag. And personally I never had any lag with notifications. Imho if you have 25GB data on your phone you should have a look at your apps. Remember there are two aspects of the to this max frequency and cpu usage, and if the cpu usage is around 20% at 800Mhz and things lag, setting it to 1.8Ghz won't help the cpu usage will just get lower. If you cpu load is high you should have a look at the apps running.

But peace with all that if it works for you it's all that matters. :)

A little tip though it's better to set the govenor to performance if you have set the cpus to their max there is no need for a on demand govenor. performance will set max frequency for all cpus and you won't have a on demand govenor with nothing to do.

EDIT: sorry for all the EDITS.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
Thanks for the advice but I already knew that

first of all I didnt say anything about dialer in my recent post, that app isnt optimized well

I had really really small stutters on notifications scrolling and telegram app but its gone now I really dont know what had the job done!

also I know I just set min and max values for cpu freqs not a freq to always run on
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
But you say you set the minimum value to the cpus max frequency, so If the on-demand governors minimum value to choose from is its max capable speed and the max value is also the max capable frequency. The on-demand governor will sitting there with nothing to do; no frequencies to scale between and since the min value the governor can scale to is actually set to the max frequency possible, it will indeed be running the its max frequency all the time.

I am only saying there is another better governor designed for doing exactly that and it's called 'performance'. :) Performance governor would not take more battery than how you treat the on-demand one contrary you will not have the on-demand governor sampleling the cpu for no reason all the time. The main battery drain happens when you put load on.

Edit: again I am terribly sorry for all the edits, I have to check out the xda app. Heh and I will also say that I am in no way attacking you or tell you what to do, I am glad the microlags that you see on your phone are gone. We obviously do not run the same apps so it's hard to compare. experiment and do what you find work best.
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Notchr302:
So I'm no tech guy. Is the official Nougat update going to cause lag? Was this issue with pre release software or the official version?
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
In my case not at all, some apps I tested even ran/loaded faster. (I compared sbs a with XC on MM) The cpu clock is NOT lowered or any different from MM. File security in N has been tightened so most apps can't read the cpu state without having root access. Also many diagnostic apps are not updated to recognize these new BIG/little cluster cpus.

Imho this thread should be re-titled because the subject is not true no cpu clocks are lowered, and it causes a lot of anxiety. I know I was worried myself because I am pretty sensitive to such things being a video/audio phile, but there was nothing that made me miss MM once I upgraded. I felt like a small eg had been turned in to a chicken farm
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] Kianush:
yeah yeah yeah I get your point man but you misunderstood me, I didnt set minimum frequency to max. I set it to 400MHz(minimum possible) so on-demand is preferred

thank you
[Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers] realtuxen:
Ah ok. Interesting. Sorry for the misunderstanding then. :)
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] bleeds:
Pardon me if I missed something, but I curious. I havent seen any ROM's for the VZW 995 since the release of root..and UL Bootloader...Is this not possible or not going to happen or are there devs working on ROMs for VZW 995? Please forgive my question if this has already been asked and answered...

Thanks

Bleeds
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] LRiley:
Use the us996 deodexed rom
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] imucarmen:
There's no bugs with using that rom?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] me2151:
Theres bugs. Ill tell you guys this. There ARE roms being developed.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] LRiley:
only bug I notice is static boot. everything else far as I can tell works even advanced calling
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] bleeds:
Are you saying this out of speculation or you know this for a fact? Are they available somewhere or basically wait until they appear here?

Thanks

Bleeds
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] me2151:
Fact.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] bleeds:
Thank you for your reply, but if I may, are they just somewhere else (not on XDA), or just havent dropped yet?

Thanks!

Bleeds
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] robertwhitten87:
Considering the guy answering is from my understanding the the guy who got root and bootloader unlock I'd assume he has some insider knowledge of roms being developed that have not been released to the public.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] imucarmen:
One of the devs who has released several roms for the H918 said he's working on a Verizon ROM this weekend. I was speaking with him last night.

Go here and start reading from post 908 and you'll see our conversation. I was trying to get him a system and boot.img last night but ran into some issues.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] me2151:
Correct. Insider info ;)
[Samsung Gear S3] ALooneyGuy:
I've had my Gear for about 10 days and have piled up over 12000 steps each day, but have only been credited with 1 floor climbed. My house has 3 stories so I'm pretty sure that total should be closer to 100. Anyone else having this issue?
[Samsung Gear S3] ardsar:
Don't hold onto any railings and make sure your arm swings as if you are walking.
[Samsung Gear S3] ALooneyGuy:
LOL, all I could thing of was Seinfeld when I read your response. "How's this? Or this?" "You seem to be getting the hang of it." Seriously, though, I deliberately hold the rail with the opposite hand when climbing stairs so that I can swing the one with the Gear on it. Still nothing. Not sure what's up. Any other ideas?
[Samsung Gear S3] blackspp:
I walk up and down to the sixth floor at work a couple of times a day and typically that adds up to 2 or 3 floor. I have a 3 story house, same thing. The floor counter sucks...
[Samsung Gear S3] ALooneyGuy:
Thanks. Definitely sounds like it's not just me. Maybe a firmware update will fix it.
[Samsung Gear S3] johannz:
Well, at least now I know it's not just me having this issue
[Samsung Gear S3] tjernst:
same problem never counts my stair climbs
[Samsung Gear S3] ALooneyGuy:
If it is basing floors on the altimeter, that might explain the problem. The altimeter on this thing is trash. It's rarely within 100 feet of my actual elevation, even after a calibration. Doubt that can be fixed, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
[Samsung Gear S3] Longun:
Thinks I'm riding a bike when I get in the car sometimes. Also the pace in S Health is way off. Not the best fitness tracker around but we don't have any other options.
[Samsung Gear S3] tresspasser:
Though not accurate; mine is working fine. I remember reading something like 'one floor is calculated as approximately 3 metres'.

Can someone confirm this?
[Samsung Gear S3] Cwcltd:
Floor count

I've done at least 10 floors today and the Gear shows 1. It was OK yesterday. Any ideas?

---------- Post added at 06:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:12 PM ----------

A reboot got it counting floors accurately again
[Samsung Gear S3] SplitpinOz:
Same problem. Altimeter has me at -6M! Fitbit shows 10 floors to S3 2 floors. Rubish
[Samsung Gear S3] boogsta161:
On the flip side of the problem - Mine detects elevator rides as stairs climbed.
[Samsung Gear S3] ednaptwo:
I think it is the same "rules" as the FitBit I was wearing before the S3. They only register a floor if the flight of stairs consist of 10 continuous steps.

I have a split level house, two flights of 8 steps.

If I walk up one it doesn't register as a 'floor' but if I walk up both (as long as I don't delay on the landing) it increases my S3's floor count by 1 floor.

On my outside walks a steady climb up a hill does register floor counts as well.
[Samsung Gear S3] vikramdhani:
Lol that's funny
[Samsung Gear S3] craigyb:
Same issue for me too. Had the watch for about 3 weeks and very few floor counts
[Samsung Gear S3] Tel864:
I've noticed the same as all, I get a very low stair count. I have one set of stairs in the house and I'm up and down them all day, but the count stays low. I had a Fitbit that would give me a very accurate count of my stairs. I've turned off floor count since it's almost useless.
[Samsung Gear S3] moralesd66:
Yeah it's not accurate at all....I get less than 5 floors a day and I have 2 stair wells at home which I dash through hourly...It's flawed for sure.
[Samsung Gear S3] Deleted member 7248059:
I've been trying out different functions; floor count is definitely buggy, so is the heart rate monitor especially when you are working out, the distance counter too counted an extra 1 kilometre on my run, the Calorie counter is also buggy for Other Workout option as it confuses vigorous and moderate intensity.

I've tried turning it on and off, I've tried cleaning the ram, I've tried swinging mu arms, I've tried to walk slower and faster but it's still there. I would send an email to S Health, but they'll like send me to another guy and ask me to detail it again, and I'm jist too lazy.
[Samsung Gear S3] fastmike:
To be honnest, all the sensors on the GEAR S3 are totally screwed up.

Floor count, steps, heart rate, altimeter, barometer all terrible. The most inccurate looks to be the altimeter. Staying in my house for a week, altimeter fluctuate between -71m and +70m... USELESS! Not too sure if a firmware upgrade can fix those sensors or if they are low cost pieces of crap. Will see... or not
[Samsung Gear S3] Tel864:
I've compared my heart rate and I've found it spot on. The GPS has worked perfectly also, but those are the two I've used the most. I use a golf gps app at least twice a week and it has always matched my phones app and gets a good lock, even in the house. I stopped used the floor count completely. I'm sure the floor count is tied to one of the other sensors, but if it's the altimeter, then it should be more accurate.
[Samsung Gear S3] shotguntheenforcer:
My floor climb is accurate on mine. Only workout detection seems quirky.
[Samsung Gear S3] QMaverick:
Well, on mine, it claims I regularly climb several hundred floors (which is really weird). All of the other sensors seem pretty solid, and the workout detection is actually really impressive. It only misfires occasionally (once it detected a bike ride when I was mowing the lawn).
[Samsung Gear S3] vikpatel1:
Gear S3 has a floor height set to 10 feet and most homes in USA at least 9 feet floor height so S3 does not count it as one floor, however my fitbit Surge counted them exactly! Samsung should reduce the floor height to 9 feet for the gear to be able to count the floor I think.
[Samsung Gear S3] JohnDoeSmith:
Here is a suggestion based on my own observations/experience. If you want to increase the chances that the watch will detect you walking up the stairs, be sure to swing your arms when you walk up the stairs.

The watch has to detect the difference between you walking up the stairs versus riding up an escalator. There are many times when we walk up stairs while not swinging our arms (such as holding the bannister, or carrying a cup of coffee with our watch-wrist hand, or just being too tired to do anything but move our legs while climbing the stairs).

I noticed that once I made it a point to swing my arms while walking up the stairs, my s3 started counting my floors more accurately (not perfectly, but a lot more accurately).

Cheers,

John Doe Smith
[Samsung Gear S3] nycebo:
Also climb more than a couple flights of stairs at once. Try it in the fire escape of your building, perhaps 10 flights, and let us know if it registers.
[Samsung Gear S3] glorfindel822:
Can i use gear s3 on my lg g2? G2 is not on samsung's official support list.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guide08:
I removed some system (safe to remove) apks and then Screen Rotate doesn't work :(

Is it possible to find system apk for Screen Rotate.

I tried Ultimate Rotation Control but it didnt work.

If you help me I will be so glad
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kinsman-UK:
There are quite a few threads about concerning this issue. Try this one for starters:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/help/question-mm-users-uninstalling-facebook-t3363211