yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
I guess he means HTC Kaiser / Tytn II aka AT&T Tilt.
[HTC Wings] darksider:
mine is also not really great, if i compare it to my old vpa compact II, which has a bigger touchscreen and only 200mah bigger battery, its really shameful, cause my old vpa holds easily 3-4 days, but it has only 200mhz:( i will look for a stronger battery for my s730...
[HTC Wings] A.Bagatov:
please report in if you find a stronger battery
[HTC Wings] jerryw00h:
search ebay for: Battery HTC S730 bought 2(fake i guess)including recharger
[HTC Wings] cbreze:
Got a 1800mAh coming in a day or two. Should be better than the oem. I was charging once a day with it, but taking it easy so I didn't run out.
[HTC Wings] darksider:
does the battery from the s710/vox fits inside s730/wings?
[HTC Wings] darksider:
where did you get it? its the bigger one? or its so small like the original? whats the name of the producer, im a little bit worry about my descendants, if you understand what i mean(explosion);)
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
HTC S710/S730 Extended Battery 1800 mAh

Here is some link:

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/931/htc-s710-s730-extended-battery-1800-mah

Tell us the experience with it!
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
1800 mAh cant have the same size as the 1050's from HTC. It may be bigger but this meand you need special cover. S710 and S730 uses same batteries but the cover is different (I tried that).
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
1) And the cover is included - or it is the bottom of battery?

2) Can you make the photo?

3) How it increase the battery life?

Yeh moneytoo - you mean the differences between the original battery putted to s710 and s730. well it be interesting if somebody will share the experience with this (maybe thicker) stronger battery and put here the back loop.

Thanks, R.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
P.S. On the other side - the capacity of AAA cells is still growing - but the size is the same.
[HTC Wings] darksider:
ive found this one:

http://cgi.ebay.de/2250mAh-Extented...ageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122

but the question is: it is the right cover for s730? if not, where can i get it...
[HTC Wings] HappyHammer:
The battery life is just useless on this phone and I'm ready to give up on it.

I charge it fully overnight and with normal use (less than 1 hour of calls, some texting, web browsing on 3G) it is completely dead by 6-7pm! This is without using WiFi, Bluetooth, media player, skype or anything else you might think would be more battery intensive.

I'm often out at work all day and don't get home until late in the evening. I need a phone that will last at least 12-15 hours with normal use, and the S730 does not seem up to the task.

Is this just par for the course with WM6 phones or what?
[HTC Wings] Lavachild:
i just got mine and talking all day it has lasted two so far with 30% left on the original (out of the box) charge.
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
Crazy, while I doubt I use mine as much as you, I have about one hour online (edge), several times in and out of google maps trying to get somewhere. Some games, and texting. That only dropped it down to about 80%.

Are you cleaning up the ram / closing programs your not in? I played Doom on mine for about 20-30 minutes the other day and didnt even drop 5% I suggest looking at how long you have the phone time out the screen and out of apps as the longer it does each of those the more power it uses.

I would also suggets getting the Car charger, that way your not stranded. Your described usage of one hour of calls and the light usage after that should put it at 50% or slightly below...
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
cbreze: Any new experience?

(http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/931/htc-s710-s730-extended-battery-1800-mah)
[HTC Wings] cbreze:
My battery is fine for my fairly extensive usage with a once a day charge at nite. Thought I had a line on a 1800mAh extended but it was bogus. :cool:
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
It really depends on how you use the phone.

- 3 days - the phone was on for almost whole three days. When I was ill the phone lied on one place and I recieved and send only few e-mails and viewed few web pages.

- 7 hours - different day - during the travelling to school/work I read my RSS feeds and browse some sites in the mornig (cca 30 minutes). Then Im in 3G/HSDPA coverage area. Checking few e-mails. When I connect to the WiFi network in school and browsing the internet one whole lesson (1.5 hour), the phone runs out of battery short after.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Battery life seems to be getting better for me. :-) Now if I could just get 3G and GPS working.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Thanks for experience - did you received it from the same source I mentioned?:

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/931/htc-s710-s730-extended-battery-1800-mah

What is the real capacity of this fake (what do you think) - same as original HTC?
[HTC Wings] cbreze:
It was really for a C730 not S730. They screwed up. I sent it back and yes it was from Handtec. Gonna have to see how good their refund process is. It was totally their mistake. I would have really liked the correct 1800mAh battery. The oem batt lasts me a day usually, plus syncing with my office computer keeps it pretty well charged.
[HTC Wings] whpgab:
I don't know if it works on s730, but it works with s710. After you used the edge or 3G goto the comm manager and press "6". It will disconnect you from the "internet" network. When I use it my battery lasts much more longer. Try it.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
What does it means - how long?
[HTC Wings] Fertesz:
Hey,

I'm kinda new to the whole smartphone business, bacause I never had one. Still, I intent to get a new phone in a while, and one of my top choices as for now is S730.

I imagine smartphones in general 'eat' bettery faster, but what should I expect? Opinions are mixed as I see - but can S730 last few days, while being lightly used (checking time, writing SMS's, maybe playing some games for a little while). I mean - I imagine that most energy consuming processes involve various sorts of connectivity options - like 3G, WiFi, and such? So basically, working with the phone istself, without connection, should extend battery life? Or maybe it doesn't matter so much, and I will be forced to recharge it daily one way or another once I obtain one of those?

I hardly hope for a week of usage, but 3 days? Seems like not to much to ask for. Also this battery changing idea seems interesting - I think battery sizes are kinda fixed, so I should be able to get better one, once it is available.

Thanks in advance for any reply, this seems the only place in the internet where I can find more then official battery specs, which seems useless.
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
I came from a "regular" phone and this is my first Smart Phone, I am very pleased with battery life considering everything its doing. RSS auto update, weather auto update in the background. My screen is set to turn off quickly since the backlight eats battery and so forth. That coupled with always keeping programs closed when I am done and my phone can last 3 - 4 days sending say 30 - 40 texts, playing games (Doom, Flash games, and solitar) for about 30 minutes span over those days and some light web usage. I dont make a ton of phone calls and when I do they are pretty short.

Right now I am at 67% 2 days after my charge. I havent done more than 10 texts and no more than 10 minutes of games. But I have spend about 15 in RSS and a few min online.

All this should give you a decent bit of refrence. If you are hammering your phone on 3g and such you will drain the battery. But if you keep your memory clean and watch your settings you will be fine.
[HTC Wings] Fertesz:
Thanks a lot:)

My usual profile for using a phone could be similar to yours, depending on situation of course. Great reference for me indeed. Thanks for taking your time with the reply, all in all I hope to became a happy S730 user in a while.

Thanks again:D

(Hm - I did write "thanks" 3 times... Guess I'm kinda happy to get some useful info on this, after searching i-net for quite some time:p)
[HTC Wings] kirko:
Hello, this is my first post so i will be quickly.

I have S710 model and i have problem from first day. The backlight panel never switch off just brightness go down. This make my battery to need 2 times a day charging. I think to buy from ebay 2250 mah battery but i see that didnt fit in my mobile!! Somebody try this? They give and new cover with this battery?
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Hi. Yes, if you buy the extended battery they will have to include the cover too - battery is more thicker (see the new cover on left side of downpage picture)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-2200m...eZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

Concerning backlight problem - search or make the post in the s710 forum
[HTC Wings] qumran:
I had a problem with battery drain on my s730. From the box it lasted for about 1 day with about 1 hour talk on the 3G network, some wifi, some games and texting. After that i flashed it to a different radio. It was the radio-wings-1.58.09.17 radio which really sucked! After that my phone was drained just after 7-8 hours with the same usage as before. 3 days ago i flashed the KAIS_Raido_Only_1.64.06.04 and i have now 28 % battery life left after more than 48 hours of the same usage! When i don´t use it it drains about 1 % every 3 hours!

KAIS_Raido_Only_1.64.06.04: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/KAIS_Radio_Only_1.64.08.21_CustomRUU.rar

EDIT: I always keep the memory clean, close every app which is not needed to in there ...
[HTC Wings] mpattonm:
Do you realise its not a "bug" but a "feature" :D

The fact is, backlight goes completely off eventually only when keyboard is locked. Weird, but true.
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
I dont have my keyboard / pad ever locked and my screen is set to time out in 15 seconds. So everything goes dark after 15 seconds, 5 - 8 for the bright light, dimmed after that till 15 then off.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Can somebody confirm gumran´s experience with the influence of radio version to batter life?
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
Flash it and try..

I want to but im not going to :) Just flashed my unit yesterday, and now finished installing all my progs, so I dont want to do it all again yet..

Have to wait a few days :)
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
By the way if you flash the complete kitchen ROM they have made you will have WM 6.1. Not shure if it works well though, because of the touch screen issue...
[HTC Wings] qumran:
I can´t confirm it more than saying this is my experience. And if you search around the forum i found more people talking about battery drain. I will find those posts again an link 'em here.

Try it! ;D
[HTC Wings] mpattonm:
I wonder where you get your ROM/radio from. It seems fairly newer than the one loaded on my unif off factory.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Hi. I do not understand exactly what do you mean by your notice. Where? Here: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/KAIS_Radio_Only_1.64.08.21_CustomRUU.rar
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
Anyone tested this yet?
[HTC Wings] el_lo:
I just flashed my Wings with the Kaiser radio 1.64.08.21

My phone seems to have less/no input lag anymore when typing PIN code :o

I tried wifi, phone and bluetooth, everything seems to be working correctly. Will report later about the battery drain.

Here is the Kaiser 1.64.08.21 radio modified for -HTC S730 WINGS-

Just execute CustomRUU.exe ;)

->Kaiser 1.64.08.21 radio for WINGS<-
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Hi, el_lo. So share your experience pls.
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
I have used the kaiser radio for a week now. I have not tested anything spesificly but I do some how feel

that I have more available free program memory.

I cant comment on the battery life, because I have stopped using the 3G nett (Because of poor reseption in my area)

so after switching this off mye battery life has doubbled.

Need to test out the memory thing closer, could be my imagination..
[HTC Wings] el_lo:
Hello, you're going to laugh but I'm still not sure of the results :rolleyes:

I THINK my battery life is indeed better, and I also think my phone is a bit more responsive.

I mean it has less input lag while typing SIM code for example. Another good thing is that since the flashing, I don't have the split during music playback anymore. (see here :->Music Playback Problem<-)

I hope it's all not just placebo effect :D

All in all, you just can't go wrong by flashing this radio.

I continue my investigations, and I will let you know if something I said wasn't right ;)

EDIT:: The music playback skipping ISN'T gone. I heard it twice today :(
[HTC Wings] el_lo:
I don't have more available RAM since the flashing, that's for sure since RAM is something easy to monitor. I'm always at 45% free after a fresh boot.

Also, I wasn't using 3G before, so my batterylife was already correct. But I think it's a bit better since the flashing though.
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
I am not talking about the amount of available memory after a reboot.

Before I was down to about 4-5 MB free after using it for a day..

In the last week I have never been under 11 mb. If this is because of the Radio. or something else I have done to the unit i dont know..
[HTC Wings] prnull:
Using only GSM (dont use 3G)

Heavy usage: Batterylife, appx 0.75 days

- Wifi, 1-2 hours

- Texting, 20-30 texts, spread over day.

- Display on 50-70% during day

Medium usage: N/A

Light usage: Batterylife, appx +3days

- Texting, 20-30 during 3days

- Wifi, 1h spread over 3days.

- Display on 10-20%.

greetz
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Topic is not confirmed yet. Seems to me that nobody has the same strong experience or nobody wants to check it - not to loose the final tuned SW configuration after spending so much time with it. I understand it :-).
[HTC Wings] el_lo:
It won't be needed :p !

I'm 100% sure that the battery life is better now. It wasn't easy to measure because the usage of the phone is variable from day to day.

This morning, the battery was full.

Phone was on (no 3G though), I made a few calls, browsed a little via wifi, listened to music for an hour, and watched a part of a movie.

Guess what... , battery is still at 80% :) (late in the evening)

This is with a two plugins installed for my homescreen!
[HTC Wings] ThaDuck:
I am also busy with bringing the power consumption down. 1 day standby is very bad :)

I have changed my e-mail synchronisation to every 2 hours and turned of the weather **** (if needed, i can look at the internet :)). Hopefully this will help a little.

Still have 1 question, what does the Kaiser Radio mean?? I have flashed my S730 with the WM6.1 cooked rom. Is the Kaiser rom just another WM6.1 or WM6 version? Or is it a rom for another part of the S730??
[HTC Wings] ThaDuck:
I flashed my device with the Kaiser Radio stuff and I have to say: perfect!

No more hick ups, my device is fast now. I don't know anything yet about the battery consumption, but that will be known here very soon.
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
The Radio is what the phone uses to communicate with your provider. For calls, texts etc, and depending on how that is all set up it can eat more battery power than it needs to or as it might be the case less.
[HTC Wings] wenel:
I just flashed my radio to the 1.64.08.21 version provided by el_lo - for now everythings works well... :)

EDIT: el_lo provided a bad link, so here I post a correct one: XDA download
[HTC Wings] Scath:
Use CERegistryEditor. Search for Disable Power, AFTER PHONE IS CONNECTED. Change the value data of 0 to 1 for each result.

NOW YOU'RE BATTERY LIFE IS SUPER EXTENDED
[HTC Wings] gosinga:
hi - i wonna flash my wings with this rom too, but during the flashing, after 3color-screen it stoped at 0% and then i get an error (ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR) and i must reinstall the akku :(

ist this really working ?

thx, andi
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] hrstoyanov:
Hello everyone!

I tried to install CM13 nightly on my brand new Honor 5X. Followed the process, installed TWRP 3.0.2 bootloader and then the CM13 and Google Apps zips. When I booted the phone I saw the blue face for CM, but the phone never booted and kept rebooting! I tried to launch in TRWP recovery mode, but the swipe is locked and I can not go back to the install menu. TWRP is completely unresponsive no matter how i swipe or press the volume/power button. Why is TWRP like that?

Model: KIW-UL00
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
U are mistaken , issue is u do installed Cm13 over b418 or b420++ ..

If iam right ur device wasn't bricked .I can help u here .raise the discussion with your thoughts and I will end it up with success
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Romiui:
if u still can recognize the phone with fast-boot then u can go back to stock ( only latest to get match build version or upgraded one ) downgraded build will fail .
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Havnt u made a twrp backup ?
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] muradulislam:
When the twrp boots up, let the phone alone until the screen turns off. Press power and see if it starts working.

This usually does the trick for me.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Oh wait . I had the solution

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 PM ----------

I think am the only one who can solve ur issue .. If u are online now , quote me. I will help u for sure .trust me ur touch screen works in recovery after doing what I said
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] muradulislam:
Be civil and stop doing that please...
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Ohh .. I was just saying ! Don't take it soo serious .

---------- Post added at 08:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:56 PM ----------

I had faced this multiple times . I used get a jerk in my body if touch dint won't on twrp . almost phone in dead state and we still had to ability to access fastboot but twrp never work and even other recoveries .

So my solution is just soo easy .

Twrp touch failure is caused due to the kernal in Cyanogenmod .

So , just flash the stock boot.IMG and tadaaa .

Reboot to twrp and that's it .

And I may not be the only one ,but am just boosting the OP's anxiety and confidence levels making him aware that his phone is still alive .

Take it easy my frn . Am not a god to know everything , and I always try to live civil.thanks for your advice and I will take it sportive .

And +1 for you
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] muradulislam:
Well, what can I say, you said it and I did take it seriously but let's forget all that.

And the trick I said, I used it with honor 6 and 7 and it worked, we are all here to help so I tried that too.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
But that thing dint work on 5x . if that do , I could have kept silent with your post . but your answer is obvious .thanks
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] muradulislam:
Then just point it out to me straight using the words "You are wrong" with the explanation, why do you think so...

It will make me learn that my approach is wrong and will make me learn something new.

Using a direct and honest approach is much better than a sarcastic one. IMHO.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Ha ha , well said . I would have done that ! But when I said that , I dint pointed u actually . still thanks for your great words . will remember till I last in xda
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] hrstoyanov:
Guys,

Thanks, I will keep trying with your recommendations, here is where I left yesterday:

My issue is that TWRP does not recognize any touch event and I cannot swipe to unlock it and go to the menus. Not sure how it happened, but it used to work initially.

Out of desperation, I downloaded the US stock firmware from Huawei, placed the UPADTE.APPP under /sdcard/dload/update.zip

When I boot now (power+ volume up) I see a circle EMUI initial screen and some menus in Chinese (which I don't understand). With the volume, I am able to switch to the next menu where it discovers all wireless networks around me. But, I cannot select mine network with touching the screen, and the EMUI recovery does not work with the volume.

At this point my concern is that somehow I broke the phone as it is not responding to screen touch events. Could that be the reason why I cannot unlock TWRP?

I can install CM13 recovery image or TWRP any time, but that's about it - I cannot run CM13 (rebooted all the time and now TWRP is toast) or put back the stock firmware (blocked swipe on the screen items).
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
If u have twrp backup ..

Open the backup

Rename boot.ext4.win to boot.img

(U can also extract any marshmallow boot.IMG from update.app)

Put it in fastboot folder

Then put ur phone in fastboot mode

Type this command

Fastboot flash boot boot.img

Later type this command .

Fastboot reboot

And come back up to recovery.

Tada. It will work now.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Romiui:
he says that touch is not working with TWRP .
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Yes .. The solution is for that
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] hrstoyanov:
...Tried to follow your instructions, but no luck :confused:

1. I don't have TWRP backup. So, I downloaded the latest HUAWEI Honor 5x stock: (KIW-L24, Android 6.0.1,EMUI 4.0,C567D003,United States)

2. Extracted UPDATE.APP first, and then extracted boot.IMG from it.

3. Deployed the boot.img:

? platform-tools ./fastboot flash boot ~/Downloads/BOOT.img

target reported max download size of 266338304 bytes

sending 'boot' (44266 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.407s]

writing 'boot'...

OKAY [ 0.698s]

finished. total time: 2.105s

4. Deployed TWRP recovery:

? platform-tools ./fastboot flash recovery ~/Downloads/twrp-3.0.2-0-kiwi.img

target reported max download size of 266338304 bytes

sending 'recovery' (45202 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.438s]

writing 'recovery'...

OKAY [ 0.713s]

finished. total time: 2.151s

5. Rebooted the phone - it keeps rebooting endlessly :

? platform-tools ./fastboot reboot

rebooting...

finished. total time: 0.002s

5. Reboot the phone in recovery mode (power+Vol Up+Vol Down)

TWRP comes with the lock on the screen. No touch events, swipe as before. Dead as a door nail again!

6. Desperate, I also tried to deploy the CM13 recovery:

? platform-tools ./fastboot flash recovery ~/Downloads/cm-13.0-20161216-NIGHTLY-kiwi-recovery.img

target reported max download size of 266338304 bytes

sending 'recovery' (48114 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.517s]

writing 'recovery'...

OKAY [ 0.751s]

finished. total time: 2.268s

This works - I am able to boot in CM recovery now, but the CM recovery tools is pretty useless and limited. Well, at least it does not rely on the touch screen and one can access the items ...

... So I am even more frustrated now with the whole experience. This process was not supposed to be such a descent into a black hole .

My thinking is that my Honor 5x lost its touch screen permanently due to this CM endeavors.

Also, is there any problem that it is a Chinese model (KIW-UL00) and I used US stock image in step 1 ?

Any other ideas?
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Romiui:
i can say that u flashed US version which might have wrong display driver ! .. u need to go back to the stock as same what came with the phone

use full software dload or flash it throw fastboot after extracting update.app .

this link might help u . just make account and download the latest update .

Honor 5X KIW-UL00 - B239
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Bro , please flash boot.img of stock ROM in boot partition n

And keep twrp in recovery partition and reboot to recovery will fix

Don't flash cm recovery .

Do this way.

Flash stock ROM boot.img in to boot partition first .

Now reboot to recovery . touch will work then
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] hrstoyanov:
... but this is exactly what I did? And after rebooting nothing improves!

➜ platform-tools ./fastboot flash boot ~/Downloads/BOOT.img

target reported max download size of 266338304 bytes

sending 'boot' (44266 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.393s]

writing 'boot'...

OKAY [ 0.690s]

finished. total time: 2.082s

➜ platform-tools ./fastboot flash recovery ~/Downloads/twrp-3.0.2-0-kiwi.img

target reported max download size of 266338304 bytes

sending 'recovery' (45202 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.429s]

writing 'recovery'...

OKAY [ 0.710s]

finished. total time: 2.139s