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[G3 General] vic604:
Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
[G3 General] achour7:
Nobody forces me, and I no longer trust LG, all their products have problems after some months of use :crying: .

I can not buy apple products because it's expensive :p and I do not like their CLOSED SYSTEM ;) .

My next smartphone will surely be an Xperia.
[G3 General] achour7:
you're welcome
[G3 General] vic604:
I had iphone an I had xperia phones. But the best smartphone that I had was LG. And I have a g3 and a g4. Never had any problems with them.
[G3 General] achour7:
I'm not the only one to have these problems, many G3 are victims of the blue screen of death and reboots caused by the battery after 6 months of use, the body of the phone that breaks near the micro and the usb port.

The G4 suffers from bootloops.
[G3 General] SREEPRAJAY:
I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions

But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.

Any device will have its ups and downs.

I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ;) ) skills

So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.

I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.

I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions

Thanks
[G3 General] AndroidxWolF:
TOO BAD for you ... because LG G3 is one of the best smartphones that I used and ENJOYED USING IT in my life .. ps: I never had this problem and I hope you could solve it good luck :)
[G3 General] matt1285:
Never had one issue or the reboot problem with the battery however I replaced with aftermarket batteries after awhile...have had every Rom installed and used it while not rooted...everything put on ur phone requires reading up on this knowing the knowledge of what's going on to your phone along with adjustments from your own experience...most of what goes wrong is user ERROR. I would suggest you do your homework before blaming LG for your problems although I hope you can resolve them and good luck
[G3 General] Alex_XV6700:
I´ve been using LG since the ¨LG Chocolate¨ days I´ve had almost every single ¨G¨ phone you name it (OG1,G2, G Pro, GFlex, G3, GFlex2, G4, V10) even the Nexus devices 4 and 5... And I gotta tell you there´s nothing like the G3. 5 G4s have died outta nowhere and I´ve lost money cause they were out of warranty, plus [MENTION=615658]bountyman334[/MENTION] stole my last good G4 when I sent it to him for repair. My V10 lasted 3 months and I bought it new from VRZW, that one I sent it to factory and they fixed it with a new motherboard.

But sincerely I ditched LG for Moto again, rocking the Moto X Pure now and loving it (same specs as the G4 only no bootlooping and quite large development community).

But I still love the G3, I´m ordering one as I type, it has a great dev community and its a beast phone!
[G3 General] achour7:
I agree with you, the G3 is a very good machine, it was the best smartphone of 2014, but reliability is a disaster, I flashed a long time ago Fulmics 6.7 to avoid overheating, I Replaced the battery twice (originals batteries.) My brother has the Xperia Z3 and flash every day roms but the smartphone is still intact.

My friend has a G3 and has reboots after 7 months because of the battery, on the web, lot of users have the same problem.
[G3 General] mamun-007:
Well, I am still using a G3 and I really love it. Easy root, good custom roms, XDA community support. I bought a G5 in hope of root and custom ROM support. Mine was not the EU varient since I don't live in europe (mine is South African H850), so I didn't get bootloader unlock. While I was hoping root from XDA community, nothing came so far. Just because of that I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. None of the LG devices got so much xda community support after G3. Locked bootloader is an issue obviously.
[G3 General] achour7:
I'm blaming LG beacause I'm not the only one who had these issues, I ever had baseband issue with an Xperia SP but It was the only model that had it and sony exchanged it for free. The G4 suffers from bootloops after generally 4 mounths, LG exchenged it for free, but once the warranty ends it will be necessary to pay :p

Unfortunately, the guide did not help me, I flashed all thepartitions but no sign of life.
[G3 General] heraSK:
never had issues with the phone. soon it'll be 2 years since I have it. I'll probably just buy new battery and skip upgrade for at least a year more...
[G3 General] 311fpt:
I think LG G3 is the best phone in 2014, but not as good as the Samsung hardware, many faulty screen machines and resources, so sad.
[G3 General] wassco:
Sheep...

My g3 is the best phone I've owned, still matches up to the newer phones my friends try gloating about..

Specially with custom os on it.. stuck a 6000mah battery in it and never looked back.

Shame you didn't have a good time with yours.
[G3 General] Evil-Maiden666:
i've bricked mine several times in one day
[G3 General] achour7:
Finally, my G3 is totally dead. Hairdryer/oven methods don't work anymore :(
[G3 General] ram1MB:
We've got the same outlook on LG Smart phones. I bought my G3 back in 2015. Due to overheating issue, my WiFi chip is damaged, giving me an annoying infinite "turning WiFi on", rebootloop and the Bluetooth sometimes is messing up. I tried so many solutions, from software to hardware- changing its Mac address using apps, freezing it on a refrigerator, cooking it on oven and putting some crap cards on WiFi chip to put pressure on it, but still to no avail.

But I didn't gave up my trust on LG, I still bought a G4 when it came out. And still, the bootloop is now present with (again) the " turning WiFi on" and my mic doesn't work when headphones are connected. I can't even dial and enter Sim services menu to register a promos on my certain Service provider.

Then hey! :D Am I crazy enough for LG?

The V10 caught my eyes and I bought it too. :laugh: :p

So far I only faced one problem, - BOOTLOOP. It is still disgusting as I need to flash back again and again and losing my data.

To make my smartphone story worst. ( out of topic brand), I've returned my Note 7 to Shamesung.

And my happy ending is in S7 edge. So far so good. Lol

I love LG. :p
[G3 General] achour7:
For the worst and for the best:p
[G3 General] scarlet_venom:
I never had any problems with my G3 Beat(the ****ty/inferior variant of G3), well other than ram is always full, now I solved it when I finally decided to root it after 1 year(I think that's the duration of the warranty) and uninstalling facebook and messenger app. Oh yeah my sister has the G3, she doesn't seem to have any problems with it that requires a fridge to fix, I think she install too many damn apps so one time it just force shutdowns on her lol.

Man I wish I had the G3, such a waste on my sister. :(
[G3 General] my.ads0:
I've had both the Optimus S (LS670) and Optimus G (LS970) on Sprint and now the G3 on Verizon, so I've continuously used LG phones since about 2011. In that time, I've haven't had a single problem with any of those 3 phones. Sure, LG and the carriers stop supporting them after a few years, but the phones themselves have never presented any issues. I'm more than happy to support this company.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] royhanks3:
Hello all, I have an Oppo R9 Plus that suddenly lost my modem partition which means I cannot connect to wifi nor will my cellular signal work. I have reflashed the stock oppo rom and to no avail, I still don't have any cell or wifi signal. I was advised that I need someone with a R9 Plus to backup their modem partition from a working R9 Plus and send it to me so I restore that partition on my own R9 Plus as that is the only way for me to get my cell signal and wifiworking again. Could anyone with an R9 Plus please help me out?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidum6:
Hi, can you solved your problem with your OPPO?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] royhanks3:
I did, are you having the same issue?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ahmedjlad:
I have the same problem

I have the same problem how ican solve this problem
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
I am looking for a VW head unit and after reading hundres of threads I came to a conclusion that in the price range up to $300 those two from title are the best choice.

Now I am torn between New Joying Intel 2GB/32GB and Ownice C500 quad core 2GB/16GB.

Are there any comparision tests between Intel SoFIA 3GR used in Joying and Ownice C500 CPU (supposedly Cortex-A53?)?

There's an AnTuTu test by ngochoangimsat of C500:

CPU: 10188

RAM: 3984

3D: 2446

TOTAL: 29946

Ownice C500 - 29

Still looking for the test of Joying.

Are there any comparision tests between their AMP IC (Joying - TDA7388(ST) VS Ownice TB2929)?

I wonder which unit is faster/better as they are priced quite similar on AliExpress.

The cheapest offers I have found:

$285 for Joying 2GB/32GB/Intel (AliExpress: JOYING Official Store, link not allowed yet)

$323 ($278+$45) for Ownice 2GB/16GB/Cortex-A52 (AliExpress: Autolink - Top Car D V D Supplier)
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
Interested in this as well as I just killed my mtcd kgl screen and digitiser. From what I can see, ownice c500 seems to have more features..4G, DVD drive..But Intel ones seems to get more development at the moment..
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
I have decided to go with Joying as I have no plans to use DVD drive (I have never used it even though I currently have one) and I have no plans to use 4G neither (I won't buy an extra SIM card, I will just tether connection from my phone over wifi).

C500 CPU scored around 29ks point in AnTuTu while old RK3188 CPU scored around 26k points.

On YouTube movies Intel CPU seems more responsive, it can be only a delusion though.

I am supposed to receive mine on 29/DEC.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
i have not tried an Ownice, but I can tell you I went from a Joying MTCD to Joying Intel and it is night and day difference
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
I am leaning to the Joying intel, but the Ownice is really tempting because:

-the ownice has more features

>TPMS

>4G (this is not important for me)

-Android 6.0

-buttons are much better laid out.

-As I am buying for an Audi A4, the version by Joying has 2 buttons that are not functional meant for DVD operation and have the dvd slot blanked out making it feel like it's missing something. Checking with Joying if it can be reassigned or are they completely none functional.

-has a dvd slot

> not that I will use, but point above...it looks better with the DVD slot...

Reason I am leaning to the Joying unit is because:

-more development on this unit it seems

> unlocking full bluetooth function seems to be close

> have been rooted

-32GB storage

-more user feedback on Intel unit and how well it performs compared to the original MTCD units.

-joying seems to focus more on the software side, which is probably more important
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
I had similar concerns. The biggest downside of the Joying for me was the knobs placement, I prefer to have them on the lower edge like in the Ownice.

As for the Android version - I wouldn't count on pure 6.0 in Ownice. Seems like they are using some weird mixture of 4.4, 5.1 and 6.0 while majority of their kernel is still 4.4. Offering this mixture as Android 6.0 is kinda cheating...
[Android Head-Units] ely.soto:
I would have purchased a joying if they made it my car's form factor. Their website with examples and details alone speaks volumes.

Got a c500 instead. Crossing my fingers.
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
So joying just confirmed with me that those buttons are dud...So weird having buttons that does nothing.

[IMG="Joying Audi A4"]http://www.carjoying.com/skin/frontend/rwd/default/images/lollipop/site/JY-AL003N2/Audi%20A4%202GB%20New%20Developed%20Android%205.1.1%20Double%202%20Din%207%20Inch%20GPS%20Navigation%20System%201.jpg[/IMG]

vs this from Ownice:

[IMG="Ownice Audi A4 C500"]http://www.ownice.com/editorpic/image/20161119/20161119071158475847.jpg[/IMG]

Buttons layout just makes so much more sense...

argh...so hard to decide..just don't want another regret like my current MTCD KGL
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
i would be interested to see if those Ownice units work with an American SIM, specifically Verizon
[Android Head-Units] ely.soto:
I may eventually try finding a sim to work with it. I've been told you can go to a Verizon Store and they can try one out.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
That's because they reused the older injection mold and just blanked out the now useless DVD drive slot.

Probably would have cost too much to rework the whole thing.

I'll bet the buttons can still be pressed and remapped in software.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
Didn't Intel cancel the SoFia stuff? so probably no future development of any kind?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3063...-tablet-markets-after-cutting-atom-chips.html

Anyway here is sample result for SoFIA 3G-R it says 26719 for Antutu result.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-C3230RK-SoC.156853.0.html

I bet C500 handily would beat it because it's processor at least seems to be much better on paper.

Also C500 has better GPU Mali-T720 compared to what Intel has Mali-450.

[MENTION=7944236]concept5400[/MENTION] I think the screenshots from [MENTION=433141]ngochoangimsat[/MENTION] clearly shows the SDK version is 23 in C500. I am not sure why you think it is a mixture. While I read some manufacturers tried to cheat by using mixed stuff. I think there is nothing which points to C500 not being an Android 6.0 device. While Joying is definitetely 5.x and it will probably never get an upgrade because of the dead Intel project.

So if I would compare C500 vs Joying SoFIA. C500 has faster processor, better GPU, supports 4G, android 6.0, many different C500 models with different button configurations, no buttons, dvd, without dvd etc. But Joying ? hmm rooted? I am not sure if it has any advantage over Ownice models other than being rooted?
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
Glad to see another Melbournian here....

I agree and my gut feel is that it'll work as well. The lady at Joying also doesn't seem to know her stuff well.

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You make some good points there sir!...

just as I was about to bite the bullet and get the joying...I'm back to holding position. Might monitor the c500 development a bit further first and see if it changes. Android 6.0 doesn't quite worry me, but the full bluetooth stack and root is important to me as usually the headunits doesn't work exactly as how i want and xposed and root helps make it work a lot better...
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=2370138]aarick[/MENTION] I found another good point for joying, apparently the intel cpu may be supporting glonass. But I still would not go for Intel.

About the bluetooth. It looks like you can do anything with bluetooth attached device. I am not sure what you want to do exactly? Here is a nice video. Bluetooth stuff appear at 1:20 about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRE-opyLOog

What I want to see in these units is a digital compass. I dont understand why they never have it. I think I will get one of those new C500's with buttons on the left with 7" screen and they have map/sdcard slot also.
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
Mainly want to be able to hook up my Bluetooth tyre pressure monitoring system to my head unit.

The ownice seems to have their own TPSM kit, but would like to avoid investing further into more stuff that I already own.

I think right now.. I'll be happy with the joying.. But when development catch up for the ownice.. I might regret it..
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
A few words after testing the unit for the last few days.

Generally speaking responsiveness is at acceptable level.

It's not even close to an iPhone level but it's doing well enough.

Satellite signal is working with GPS and GLONASS at the same time.

I had to switch off AF funcion in the radio because apparently it doesn't work so well - instead of searching for other frequencies of the same station it was changing radio stations.

It was shipped with language changed to my country language and with iGO NAVI with Europe maps and my country language set up as well, even though it was 2014 version of the app and the maps it was a nice touch.

Bluetooth app have a problem - when downloading contacts it is not saving the "+" sign before the country code.

For example - if I have a number stored in my phone as +44 123456789 it will be downloaded as 44 123456789.

Then if that person would be calling me, the unit would show the caller as +44 123456789, without matching it with the saved contact, because it has saved the contact as 44 123456789, without the + sign.

It's a bit annoying but I can live with it.

The following problem is ground breaking for me.

As this is my first Android head unit ever I am not sure if it's Joying only or general problem of those chinese units.

The unit can play radio sound AND sound of ONE other app with radio in the background.

This function is called GPS MIX and it's working only with predeclared NAVI app only.

If I declare Google Maps as my NAVI app - it can play radio in the background with Google Maps on my main screen.

But other NAVI apps in the background cannot produce sound.

If I would put other NAVI app on my main screen it wil start to produce sound but the radio will be turned off the second other app starts to do so.

Therefore I am not able to use two NAVI apps and radio at the same time.

In my country we have a Waze-like app for speed camera and mobile speed control units with a HUGE community and it's working like a charm (YANOSIK app).

The problem is that the app really sucks at turn-by-turn navigation. Everyone is just using it in the background with other NAVI app on main screen.

With this unit when YANOSIK app is working in the background it will not produce any sound, unless declared as the NAVI app in CarMediaSettings. When it's declared as the NAVI app it will produce sound ine the background but other NAVI app will mute/turn off the radio completely.

I am quite desperate with this problem as for now I still have to use my phone for one navi app...
[Android Head-Units] HVB83:
Not really a definitive answer to your wondering, but I have a MTCD which can have two navi-apps produce sound running in the background and run a media app at the same time. In my case Tomtom and Flitsmeister (which sounds as the equivalent of your Yanosik app).

So I don't know about Joying, but there are definately 5.x units out there that can do this.
[Android Head-Units] gustden:
Joying can do multiple nav apps and media app at the same time. Problem is playing the radio and multiple nav apps. Only assigned nav app can be heard when radio is playing.
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
Well.. not really in my case. When I run multiple nav apps in the background the only one producing sound is the one chosed as The Nav app in CarMediaSettings, others stay silent...

EDIT:

OK, I tested it thoroughly, you are right and I was wrong. The issue is caused by the radio app.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
I actually bought a C500 unit (waiting delivery) but I guess I can't test the bluetooth stuff for you without your sensors :) but I am not sure why they shouldnt work? I mean if it has an android app and it connects to bluetooth it should work, no?

On the other hand, I never had any case which would save me headaches if I had tire pressure monitoring. So I decided to not invest on one. (also I am not big fan of changing batteries how rarely it may be required :D) But that is my opinion...

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@concept5400 I know this is an annoying response but I have to say... What about driving within speed limits so you wont need to run a speed camera app? :) I highly recommend this option, it is also safer.

But you can perhaps work around it if you run your YANOSIK app in your phone. Since you don't have to see it, you can even keep your phone in your pocket.
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
[MENTION=3394679]yurtesen[/MENTION]

We can go even further - I can run Google Maps in my phone as well and use HU for radio only.... but this way I don't need Android HU at all...
[Android Head-Units] aarick:
Unfortunately, this is not that simple. The Bluetooth included does not have all the profile included and usually only allows your phone to connect to it for sending audio and making calls, but other functions does not work. Unless the source code/driver profile for the Bluetooth is available, it will not allow connecting other devices.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
You are right, if you buy HU for maps only, then you don't need it, period. If I was going to use it only for that purpose, I would have just bought a cradle for my phone and would have been so much cheaper and wiser. (and much easier)

But android HU has many other features so I doubt people buy them only for maps. You said it yourself, you run the speed camera app in the background. Therefore you do not need a screen. The battery usage should also be minimal and you wont need to mount your phone to anywhere. I said, it is a workaround. You are free to return the unit if this is a deal breaker for you because there does not seem to be any other solution to your problem.

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[MENTION=2370138]aarick[/MENTION] I think once I have the radio, I can query the profiles it supports. So the only thing you have to know is what profile your bluetooth tpms is using.

One thing I don't understand is why you think the profile you require wont work with bluetooth in ownice unit exactly?. I don't think ownice having their TPMS has anything to do with bluetooth even. Because ownice has their own receiver also (which I bet is not using bluetooth).

But I would imagine it is more likely that you would have problems with Sofia 3GR because it uses some external bluetooth module I think (from a company called telit? not sure...). See -> https://xdaforums.com/wiki/Generic_Android_Head_Unit/MCU_Explained

I think mediatek soc is quite new and probably has a fully supported bluetooth device integrated, since mediatek processors are used quite often in mobile phones etc. where this would be a problem if it many profiles wasnt working :)
[Android Head-Units] concept5400:
[MENTION=3394679]yurtesen[/MENTION]

Described problem exists only with radio app.

Actually there is a "workaround" - listening to music with Spotify allows to run speed camera app in background and Google Maps/Sygic/iGo/Waze on front and that's what I am doing at the moment.