yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
You can install the full ROM zipl via twrp... Otherwise it will fail and more worst maybe you will not be able to decrypt your data and you must do factory reset to boot again to the ROM
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Yes,for sure.

Just got a little confused with Funk Wizard comment.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Well if you are rooted always need to flash the full zip via twrp twrp recommended or even full zip via stock recovery should work.

What I mean was ota flash would fail and system would prompt full zip download due to root detected.

Please ask if you have any questions
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
No,my friend.

Message is clear,as always.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
I would say that it isn't root that should make the normal update (the one we a notification about) fail.

It's root that makes the system suggest the full OTA, but with Magisk or other systemless mods (SuperSU...) and a stock recovery, a "normal" update from a notification should would, am I right?

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Well even if you use Magisk and hide the root although the system would receive a compressed OTA first but the installation would fail thus a full zip is recommended.

You can hide root system from the system using Magisk but the root apps that you use make modifications to system partition and when you flash the OTA it is not able to deal with modified system partition and thus the ota fails.

Flash ota if you are completely stock in terms of system partition.

Hope that makes it clear :fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
Would it fail with stock recovery? I understand it as it wouldn't fail.

A root app doesn't​ mod the system by default? Could use root to access things without modifications..

Well, I never use the smaller OTA but I got the impression that it would work with Magisk and stock recovery and of course no modifications done to the /system. Hope that makes it clear what I mean. ;)

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
It would :)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Yes it would fail with stock recovery, try it.

Magisk flashes a modified boot img in the background and further any rooted apps that you install will modify system.

No your impression is false, try it to believe it.

Sent from Funk Tuned 3T
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
What the meaning of systemless SuperSU then?

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Magisk may be system less but the apps the you install are not installed systemless referring to any rooted apps here.

Also Magisk installs a modified boot image to patch and work systemless so basically it's all a giant hack to make system feel that its not rooted and still a virgin :laugh:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
But even before Magisk, there was/is systemless root with SuperSU.

It was said, that with it and stock recovery and no other obvious system modifications a small incremental​ OTA was possible?

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Was never possible on OP devices, might have worked for other devices like nexus but not with OP.

Reading will give you knowledge but actual experience is what I prefer. OP OTA will not work regardless of Magisk or Systemless Su
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] sharath_babu:
Where do you live? I want to know your room temp.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Kind3r32:
If I flash full 4.1.3 on twrp , won't it override twrp with stock recovery? Thanks.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] tom1807:
I live in South-East Asia, Room Temperature between 25° and 27C°.

Cheers

Tom
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] rongregoryred:
can i flash this with internal storage not wiped? or do i need a factory reset?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Yes you can, do data loss on Dirty flash

Sent from Funk Tuned 3T
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] uudruid74:
Works fine if you use Magisk

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Flash FULL 1GB+ to unroot. Some say just the boot image, but you need to be sure your system partition is unmodified and never mounted writable. Be safe.

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Never seen an OOS with stock recovery. Open the zip and look. None of the ones I've opened have it and not a single beta.

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Its not a folder. It's a category of stuff.

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I have never had twrp get overwritten
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
I have never had twrp get overwritten

[MENTION=5880917]uudruid74[/MENTION] if you are on OOS or OOS baced ROM and you try to make a clean flash including wipe system to upgrade to newest version of OOS, your twrp gonna be overwritten...

I know is not the proper behaviour of twrp probably is a bug but wiping system , going from an OOS baced ROM to another

Causing the overwrite to the stock recovery...

Best regards...
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] RE910177:
does that mean flashing the new update without wiping anything can still be ok?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] matrixino:
I got TWRP replaced by stock when passing from 4.1.1 to 4.1.3 with full zip and dirty flash flashing from the update check app.

Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A3003 utilizzando Tapatalk
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
Just follow the instructions from the OP..

Wipe dalvick & cache before flashing .....
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] uudruid74:
The new ROM normally contains a new kernel. It's possible that it could try to incrementally update it leaving you with a broken boot. Also, just because something is systemless doesn't mean their is no danger. Once you mount the system as writable, the journal is engaged, things are beinf timestamped and who knows what else. Metadata is being changed and the updater just sends blocks. You never know what subtle bugs may creep into a filesystem that way, and they may not show for many updates later.

So ... if you need root, you need to apply full updates via twrp. You can download them right off the oneplus website. If you don't need root, don't.

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Possible? Do you want possible or safe? Why risk it? Go to Starbucks and download the file with their WiFi. Whats the big deal?

Magisk is systemless so that the system add-ons you install will not be over-written when you flash the ROM. They will still be there so you don't have to flash 20 ZIPs every update. It's not for incremental OTAs. Incremental/partial OTAs are for unmodified systems with locked bootloaders where its not possible to mount system as writable.

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Yeah, I can't hit 25 with the phone OFF most days

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Open the ZIP file. Do you see a file named recovery.zip?

If so, that's stock recovery. If no such file, then it can't overwrite twrp!

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Stop wiping stuff then! And report the bug to twrp maintainers. It can't overwrite it with nothing! OpenBeta has no recovery image and none of the stable versions I've flashed have had it.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
Chill! =) I was just interested in the technicalities with the updates.

When I after some years without CM, been on CyanogenOS with the OPO, downloading full OTA's (I've never used a incremental OTA), I started to read about the systemless root, and later also Magisk. As I understood it the, it should make it possible to use the incremental OTA's.

I never could, since I always was on TWRP, but I always got the impression that with stock recovery and not modified /system (time stamp, anything) it would work.

I've never said it worked, and I never said it would be safe, and I never said "OMG, full zip's are so big, or never. All I've said, is stuff like "isn't it" and "wouldn't it work?".

But, anyway, great you quoted me and wrote great answers. Hopefully someone else then me learn something. ;)

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Yes just wipe dalvik and cache and flash the zip over without wiping your system and data, this practice is also called dirty flashing :svetius:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] RE910177:
yeah! I do a couple of research between dirty flash and clean flash and now im in OB5! no issues so far thanks a lot! :highfive:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Anything from here on post on beta thread instead of this one else users might get confused, we don't want to clutter someone else's thread. I hope you understand, enjoy the beta :good:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] snir6590:
Very bad battery performance after the update. Getting only 2.5 hrs sit with this update, instead of almost 5hrs with the previous . no root. Anyone ?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
No,great battery life.

It's something with you're setup,

An app is killing you're battery!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] snir6590:
Look at this.. what do you think ?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Facebook [emoji33]

Worst battery killer!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Flashing OOS & TWRP with TWRP and without PC

@Funk Wizard & [MENTION=5753463]innocentwoolf[/MENTION],

Brother,

I don't know if someone has shared this in any thread about installing OOS over a Custom Rom and rooting at the same time without the help of a PC and without any app.

Today, I just thought to try OOS 4.1.3 and so I downloaded the 1.4 GB full zip from your thread (don't remember whose thread, but in between both of you only. You can see the the thanks for both of your OPs).

Users find it very hectic to instal OOS 4.1.3 and instal TWRP again and root it everytime after a fresh OOS Instal. Specially those like me who are always on a go and travelling. This process do not require any app or any PC to be used and can be done while being on the go (I did it while travelling in shuttle).

Files Required:-

1) Download the full zip OOS of your choice.

2) Download the TWRP you want to install.

3) Download Magisk or SU, as per your choice.

Procedure:-

1) Boot to TWRP

2) Back Up your custom rom (Optional but safe to have)

3) Wipe Data, System, Cache, Dalvik & ART

4) Instal OOS Zip you downloaded

5) Now again in TWRP click install. But this time choose the bottom right option "Install Image"

6) Select TWRP img file you downloaded

7) It will ask for which partition you want to flash

8) Select Recovery (Partition) and swipe to install

9) Once done, kindly go to reboot and select recovery here.

10) It will reboot to TWRP. Now Flash the Magisk or SU.

This process will save all your effort in installing OOS over a Custom ROM and installing TWRP or root again and again. So you can now literally be always on the go.

Hope this helps and people will not hesitate in trying OOS over a Custom ROM.

Kindly let me know if you come across any error while following the process.

Best Regards

Bond
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
You only need to flash TWRP once!

So if you already have TWRP installed there is no need to flash it each time.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thank you brother for the instant reply that also without reading carefully.

Once you install a full OOS zip it will install the stock recovery as soon as you reboot to system and the most interesting fact is once you have installed the OOS even if you flash magisk or su directly, it will result in no root.

If you don't believe then kindly do try it once and share the feedback.

Once again thank you for replying so quickly.

Best Regards

Bond
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
I always flash OOS + SuperSu directly with no reboot and i do have root [emoji111]

Thanks to you.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Fantastic. You're damn lucky. We never had it. Niether the root nor the TWRP after a fresh instal of OOS from a Custom ROM.

Best Regards

Bond
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] uudruid74:
Sorry, the Oneplus forums are full of people that want to unroot because the OTA updater detects root and gives them full sized OTAs. They want incrementals, so someone tells them to just flash the boot.img, let it OTA, then reroot it!

Fool the safety precautions of the OTA? OMG! And they'll be the first to complain about how buggy the OnePlus OS is! I've been on that soapbox awhile. That and the "Antutu is evil" soapbox
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Sorry!now i understand you,you're probaly right since you're talking about coming from Customs ROMs.

Cheers Bro.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Indeed, from Custom to OOS.

I've never been a stock ROM person until it's the only option I'm left with like in the case of Honor 7.

Since December 19th, 2016 I'm having different custom roms. One of my dear Dev and friend [MENTION=5416670]Saatvik Shukla[/MENTION] referred me for trying the new open beta so installed it today. Kinda liking it, though customisation is negligible in stock in comparison to Resurrection Remix (I'm a big fan of it).

Regards

Bond
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Welcome,

I'm totaly your opposite,always liked and a big fun of Nexus/Pixel Stock android(others Oems stock roms sucks)

OOS customisation is all i need and missing from stock android.

PS:A nice article of OOS Published yesterday on xda Portail [emoji6]

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=72016392
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] The Apostle:
If you wipe cache and dalvik you retain TWRP, if you clean install and wipe system you loose TWRP, or at least that's been my experience.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ML_Outlaw:
April security updates ?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Ulti2x:
Hey guys,

If I wanted to update to OOS 4.1.3 from rooted OOS 4.1.0 w/ Magisk, could I download the full update from the System Update tab in settings (4.1.3 is 1393 MB) and simply install it from there and reroot with Magisk? Do I clear data, cache, and dalvik or can I simply clear cache and dalvik in TWRP?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Flash full 4.1.3+Root,

Wipe cache and reboot.

Done.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Ulti2x:
Thanks, I thought I needed to wipe dalvik and cache.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Not needed,but it wouldn't hurt!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ajittheoneandonly:
Beta 5 in 3t

It vibrates multiple times when rebooting. Does anyone else have this problem?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Eggstones:
I haven't noticed that.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mckalyster:
HI everybody

Yesternight I flashed with OOS 4.1.3 and home button doesnt take back to home . Someone knows how to sort it?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Clean flash you're rom.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] soder:
Someone using Pixel Launcher and got this problem?

/Söder
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] panart:
Does anyone else have issues with connecting to VPN services? I have 3 VPN apps, ZenMate, Opera and Adguard, and none of them can connect (though i don't care for Adguard as i use it in Local HTTP Proxy mode with root).
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
No,

Working fine here.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] panart:
Are you on 4.1.3 or OB? I remember on OB6 with blu_spark r118 i didn't have this issue. I went back to 4.1.3 with blu_spark r125 due to font changes intoduced in OB6.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
OB,but was working fine with 4.1.3.

Did you clean flash when you downgraded to 4.1.3?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] panart:
Yes, definitely, as going back to 4.1.3 from OB6/7 w/out clean flash will result in dialer and contacts apps FCs 100%.

After a 2-3 restarts and a LOT of retries with VPN apps i managed to get ZenMate to connect. Opera still refuses to connect, but as long as ZenMate connects i'm ok with that. It could be that having several VPN apps installed creates conflicts.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Just received OOS 4.1.4 OTA in India.

Still March security patch !! What a shame.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] terragady:
Canada and Germany have no update yet :( special update for India only?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
Yep ...special update only for Indians....
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] terragady:
Yeah I just check but you were faster :p
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
Just have some patience,if you're talking about last vulnerabilities,it is often the vendors of antivirus solutions that make those ads. The risk of being hacked is super weak! and comparing to others OEM, Still better than exploding batteries, pink screen, and double price. ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Giuseppe 1971:
Hi,

I was on 3.5.4 with unlocked bootloader and root. I've updated the recovery to 3.1.1-0 then wiped chache, dalvik, system and data and flashed the full 4.1.3+SuperSU. At moment to reboot, it appears: No OS installed! Are you shure you wish to reboot? Any suggestion?

Edit: solved. it seems it is a bug, once rebooted the OS was installed...
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Upcoming beta has May Security Patch.

Sent from Funk Tuned 3T
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vlc_marcos:
How do you know that?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Midomad:
His a member of the MP early access group,if it matter for you...
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] panart:
OOS 4.1.4

Here is OP3T OOS 4.1.4 FULL ROM for India (downloaded via VPN). The zip file is untouched and i successfully installed it on my EU OP3T, however i do not assume responsibility for any issues that befall you when you flash this ROM.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq8R1p7ZP8gudSkiSSdccZBSIDY

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxm0UDJX4r6bUW16QUNpWTVqT28/view?usp=sharing

MD5: 3c341b42d8d8e94e2be99eec7bbf92d5

[MENTION=5753463]innocentwoolf[/MENTION] feel free to post the above link.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vlc_marcos:
Thanks for the reply
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
4.1.5 is up

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/o...and-3t.547283/
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Cathair2906:
The links were dead, could you please upload it again? Thanks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Michalko5896:
Cuz you have unlocked bootloader. DM-verity can't work properly with unlocked bootloader. Also you would never pass dm-verity check (custom kernel + twrp). Nothing to worry about, unless security is your priority.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] castaway1:
so its normal in my case? never seen this before only after flashing OOS4
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Michalko5896:
Yes, it is normal. Like I said, dm-verity might not show a warning with other custom roms but it is still NOT working properly. You would need a locked bootloader for that.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ach4m0:
Phh-superuser working fine!

Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A3003 mediante Tapatalk
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] pychobj2001:
The newest SR super user is working for me.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] thomsch:
So.. There is something shady in this rom?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Michalko5896:
it is leaked and not acknowledged by OnePlus as an official rom. It could be modified by some third party and perhaps contain some kind of backdoor / spyware but it is unlikely.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] herwarth:
No it is genuine. I have a locked bootloader and it flashes over the stock 3.5.4 old. Dm-verity is also okay. So according to the new security model this must be genuine.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Michalko5896:
Oh, so in that case, unless someone stole OnePluses signature it should be legit. But still, this is a leaked rom under active development, there might be some debugging tools enabled or some security features disabled for development purposes. I wouldn't recommend it to a high value individuals or people with valuable data in their phone (OnePlus phones are generally bad for these people, but that's another story).
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
After flashing OOS4.0 do i need tot flash supersu afterwards to boot or I can boot without root?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] noahvt:
Awesome so far, switched from RR to this because the fingerprint scanner on RR was rather slow... I only have a few issues, does someone know how I can fix these:

Buttons only light up when you press them (on custom roms they light up even when you touch the screen) is there a way to make the lights function like on custom roms?

Screen flicker (Backlight @ about 40% with auto brightness off)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] donalgodon:
Please excuse the basic question, but I have a 3T on the way. What's the install instructions from stock ROM, stock Recovery, and a locked bootloader, etc.?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
How to revert back to 3.5.4? Flashing via updater app failed, sideloading in stock recovery also failed..
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Vivek_Neel:
Just download zip and flash it. Nothing else
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] donalgodon:
Sorry, I'm asking which part of the stock Recovery do I use to flash the locally stored zip on the device.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] docrazy123:
I have consistently noticed slower fingerprint speed on this update. Wasn't as much on 3.5.4. Not only that but the tap on home button to come back to home is also delayed. If I use on screen buttons. The home button onscreen is fast. Anyone else notice this?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] twentyfourinc:
You can revert using twrp..

Tested by me failed on stock recovery, done with twrp
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ujwal.p:
Not yet. But I'd suggest wait for the official one.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Thanks Bro. Will try twrp then
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] kongming:
is there anyway to decrypted?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Alcolawl:
Why is the OP3T so much faster than the Pixel XL? Yeah, let's have this conversation.

Review after review (including XDA's own) has shown that the OnePlus 3T (and sometimes the OnePlus 3)outpaces the Pixel XL in synthetic benchmarks. Just have a look at this nice comparison put together by PhoneArena: [url]http://www.phonearena.com/phones/OnePlus-3T_id10313/benchmarks[/URL]

Aside from the BaseMark OS II benchmark, the Pixel and Pixel XL, despite having very similar hardware, are beaten in almost every performance-measuring test. If we have such similar hardware, why is this happening? Could it be the new F2FS file system on the OP3T? Or the faster CPU clocks? Maybe Oxygen OS? What about a different CPU governor? But why then does the older OP3 perform similarly?

Even the Moto Z outpaces the Pixel in storage benchmarks. This topic is investigated here. With a different filesystem and some software trickery, the Pixel's storage speed might be bolstered immensely.

Listen, the Pixel is a seriously fast phone. Coming from my Nexus 5X, it's night and day. It's easily the best phone I've ever used. Period. But I can't help wonder some of the questions above. Perhaps the real question is, can we get the Pixel to match the performance of the OP3T?