yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
Heres what I've got frozen so far...no major problems yet... Its a lil extreme and some LG stuff has been removed that I forgot ha.

Make sure to remove com.tmobile.pr.adapt as well. (If theres a 830 user lurking)

You should be able to take whatever debloater you were using and edit the updater-script to remove whatever you like.

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[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] johnnyman25:
Guys this needs root?
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
Here a more detailed list from my h830. Been using my phone with all these deleted/frozen for months now.

Warning....little extreme and not for everyone.

Only use bluetooth, Wi-Fi mirror, video stuff etc myself.

Priv-app

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app

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Add it all up, it's ~780mb.
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] tomarin:
Can you explain how you delete these apps? Did you delete folders when already installed or did you remove them from the ROM.zip before installation?

I have disabled cca 80 % of your list which wasnt a problem coming from LG G2, but I would like to delete them completely and in Nougat I am not shore how to do it

properly. So a little advice would be nice.

Thanks:confused:
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
I'd freeze them all first with an app to be sure you don't want/need anything.

I'm a noob to these LG devices and basically googled/removed everything, slowly over time ha. Did make my own personal zip though.
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] 4r44444:
Just use root uninstaller to remove bloat :)
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
Delete
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Still_living714:
how did you gain root access on nougat?
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=69890340
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] ghebbar:
Coming to the main topic as in thread-subject, is there any workaround to get Debloater working on Androud 7 Nougat is any similar simpler alternative (than rooting)
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] tomarin:
debloat for noobs

[MENTION=5264701]lordodin912[/MENTION]

first, congrats for becoming a dev for H830 (and H 850) from "noob to G5" in such a short time :good::good::good:, RESPECT

So if someone doesent wont to be a dev and learn how to make ROMs with superR kitchen (and kernels btw) is it possible to delete unwanted apps from ROM.zip before installing ROM

(unzip, delete folders, rezip) like it was possible in KK, or in N7 this doesent work .

Better yet, can you expand on your work fro H 850 and add some MODERATE and HEAWY debloated versions of stock ROM to your thread here for H 850?

I really dont understand this LG guys. They pump up the stock ROM with same bloat or unneccesary apps since LG G2 AFAIK and maybe even before, and users constantly debloat them because they are

useless or spy and do nothing but waste battery life.

best regards
[LG G5 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lordodin912:
Still a noob, not a dev ha. Some apps will prolly be able to be removed. It's better to use the kitchen and reset permissions though. Prolly won't make any roms for h850, no time ha. The bloat's not as bad as TW....could be better ofc.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Adoah:
Hi All,

I just got to Finland, where I should have 3G network coverage, and unlimited texting. But whenever I go to access the internet on my 3G network, it shows that there is no data connection, and when I go to send a text, it says could not send with T-Mobile. I know that I should be able to text and such because last year, it worked perfectly fine, the indicator was that when I arrived and turned on data roaming, T-Mobile sent me a text saying, "Welcome to Finland!" and that sort of stuff, but this year, I didn't get it.

If you guys have any ideas on how to fix this issue, please let me know!

Thanks,

--Adoah
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] audit13:
Need to set the apn?
[ONE General] sixty4rer:
Are you playing it on your phone?

Want to know how to get around the root?

Do you have a good advice? Do you need one?

Please share it here instead of filling the development forums. Thanks

(My contribution? This thread!)
[ONE General] grysts:
Been playing until Niantic decided to block root users. People use Magisk to bypass the hurdle but it's too much hassle for me.
[ONE General] Coug76:
CM using the built in root. "ISU" app plus kernel patch (can be found XDA). Works great.

Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
[ONE General] Razuddin:
On my stock rooted cos13.1.2 i used thes steps. I started at step 3 as 2 wasnt relevant for me.

- Step one (Optional, but highly recommended): Take a nandroid backup. (A full backup of your phone)

- Step two: Uninstall Magisk, Xposed or any program that gets detected by safety net.

- Step three: Flash SuperSU SR5 v2.78 in TWRP

- Step four: Go to TWRP Terminal (TWRP Home > Advanced > Terminal) and type: echo "SYSTEMLESS=true" > /data/.supersu

- Step Five: Flash SuHide v0.55

- Step Six: Flash Systemless Xposed v86.2

- Step Seven: Reboot and Install Root Switch. Unzip the file and install the apk. Once installed, make sure to toggle usb debugging on, within the app.

- Step Eight: Install Xposed Material Manager

Credit to the original reddit user for his post here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRo...y_have_found_a_workaround_for_the_pokémon_go/
[ONE General] Dstr8ction:
If you don't need root, you can install this one via recovery:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63615067

It is just a little script, which removes all files and traces of the most common root-versions (SuperSU, phh's, ...).

It was that simple for me, after I tried bypassing Safetynet without success on CM14.1 for hours, although I don't need root at all xD
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddie24902005:
I have tried several roms but fail, no signal. I tried to go back to stock and then flash again, no luck. Tried all the radios provided. Maybe a 6.0.1 6045O modem can fix it but I do not see it yet. Has anyone succeed? Please share your thoughts. I also tried to backup modem and reflash modem, using the zip provided by xda but still no luck. I guess stay in LP is not a bad idea though.:confused:
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddie24902005:
The way I revert back is by restoring from my previous twrp backup. I am not sure if that is the right way. I did flash the 6045I radio to try too. I am guessing maybe I messed up and it is stuck in someways. But once I back to stock I get the signal back. Maybe I should totally return to stock and root again flash recovery again......?! Omg that much work.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radkapatka:
Here is how I did it

Here is how I did it on my 6045O (originally on Lollipop):

1. Unlocked bootloader

2.Rooted using the Dallas CZ guide (and his root utility. Alex's utility did not work for me)

3. Installed TWRP 3.0.0 from Alex's utility

4. In TWRP wiped down cache, dalvik, data and system

5. Format data (in the same wipe screen, but a separate button underneath)

6. Installed DCZ 2.2 rom and 6045I -6.0.1 modem from [MENTION=225545]wolfi[/MENTION]

7. Do not install hybrid bootstack (did not work for me)

8. Reboot and enjoy . Everything works- MMS, rotate screen on dialer, lockscreen and LTE
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddie24902005:
really appreciated your reply! I will try and see how it goes!!!
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trinnik:
Were you able to get this to work? I have tried many things with no luck. Also can someone link the modem file from [MENTION=225545]wolfi[/MENTION]?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radkapatka:
Yes, I was able to do it

Just follow my instructions and you will be able to do it

I can't post a link because I haven't posted 10 times yet. Just go a search @ xda for famewolf

Thanks
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddie24902005:
i gave up.because i can only get 4g but no lte with MM as I am on Tmobile.
[XDA Assist] FranceNiel:
Please help me im looking for stock rom in my huawei y6 (scc-u21) im hOping someone hre could give my a link to download... :crying::crying:

tnX...
[XDA Assist] Razvan:
Hi there and welcome to Assist,

Founded few threads related to your query, see bellow:

[Honor 5A aka. Huawei Y6 II Compact] Are there any custom ROMs?

[ROM] Unoffical CM12.1 for Huawei Y6

[ROM] Unoffical CM13.0 for Huawei Y6

Good luck
[General Topics] NeonzYT_XDA:
Typically Android nowadays are getting better and better and they're strengthening up the securities (which is called KNOX) of it also which is a bad news to the rooting community. But in this rooting community we or they find couple of modifications or TONS of modifications to break into the system and mess it up to the next level. Here's my tips or advice if your'e gonna buy a phone which you want to be rooted or modified:

1. DO NOT buy newest phones and make sure you check out the rooting communities reviews of the phone or you're screwed up with it.

2. Check out old phones like Grand 2 Duos, S2, S3 and other phones that are pretty much in the era of 2010's up to 2014's.

Now we're gonna move on to the rooting you're device and this is one of the basic **** you need to really do. Here's the tips and advices i'm gonna give you!:

1. Buy a PC, it's you're superior life saver for your bugging out phone :good: (you're gonna join too the PC Master Race)

2. DONT USE one click root **** on your devices, it wont make other useful programs work like what you expect like SuperSU. Try rooting using the SuperSU zips so the other useful programs will work good and has a high chance!

3. Flash custom recoveries! Its very very useful too. :D

So lets move on to custom recovery ****! This one's the exciting part of your rooted phone, so this one works like a master piece which can flash custom ROMS, flash zip files like the SuperSU root zip and it just advance the stock recovery you have. You can flash recovery files using ROM Managing apps on the Play Store or if you wanna use your PC, flash it using Odin3 (Total masterpiece too!). Im gonna list one of the best recoveries I could give you!:

-ClockWorkMod

-Philz Recovery

-TeamWinRecovery (Best one I guess :eek:)

So I showed you the custom recoveries! This list is the ROMS which can be flashed by them recoveries I listed:

-CyanogenMod

-AOSP Rom

-Resurection Remix

"ALSO ONE **** I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT THEY ****ING VOID WARRANTIES!"

Lets go to the apps that I almost forgot to say, XPOSED Installer is the one who installs addons for your rooted phone. The addons im gonna list is ad blockers so yeah, just adblockers (you can suggest more on your reply or quote!):

-AdAway (Keeps the ads away on YT)

-AdBlock (Keeps the ads away on Google or other browsers!)

Credits to all makers of the ROMS, Custom Recoveries and other **** I listed! Make sure to give a thanks too.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Reserved

Bugs

1.Ambient dispaly won't work(its working fine for cm14.1 thanks to rohan but i didnt included yet on this rom will do in next version)

2.After clicking photos from camera SOmetime gallary freeze(blackout), for this wait use 3rd party gallary app or wait for gallary for few minute for now(sorry for inconvenience) i will try to fix this.

3.Any other bugs..?? please tell me with proper log.

Screen shots
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] kemis_madmax:
Thanx.....dude.

Will download this evening and report u.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Np :highfive:
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
Download link doesnt work
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Link is broken....

---------- Post added at 02:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 PM ----------

Link
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Link Updated

Guys there is charging issue in this build will building latest one with charging issue fixed. will update the thread when build completed.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Thanx for the this awesome ROM fenix.

Butter smooth ROM.

Love the Tesla coil and pie navigation.

Dark theme is also elegant.

Updated Nova launcher with a slide taste of pixel launcher.

I think there is doze is implemented and it is working flawlessly.

Getting a new taste.

I think everybody should try the new ROM.

Thanx again.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
new Build is Up

Whats New ...

1. Charging issue Fixed.

2.Ambient display fixed.

Y

ou can do dirty flash over Old version of Tesla Rom.

:highfive:

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767124120

Link updated on !st Post
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] onireves:
Hello, would anyone be able to confirm if Pokemon GO works on this ROM since it doesn't come pre-installed with root? ((Because Pokemon GO has a root checker that doesn't enable login from rooted devices, basically making it unplayable))
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] nightwalkerx22:
Even if it does, you can remove it.

Open ES File Explorer, mount the /system folder as r/w.

Delete file named 'su' in both /bin and /xbin folder inside /system folder and Pokemon GO will work fine.

PS: You cannot revert back to root.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] compgenie:
Does this come with an Selinux mode switcher inbuilt?
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Nope.U have to use

su
setenforce 0

in T.E for changing it to permissive.

But after each reboot it changes to enforcing again.So u have to do it on every reboot.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Yes you can goto gzr kernel adiutor(present in app drawer)/misc and change the selinux mode.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
After receiving something by Bluetooth, when opening the file from notification=> inbound trannsfer .It is showing error.Here is screenshot and log.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Damn....didn't even notice that.Thanx for a permanent solution.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Thanks for the log will look into it
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] yourSAS:
Damn, why do all beautiful ROMs have ugly logos?:rolleyes:
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] pzUH:
Most likely because they're all programmer/developer, not a designer. :D
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Do u want ian somehalder or Megan fox or assasian creed for boot-animation?

Use substratum for changing boot animation.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] manhong2112:
can i switch to this rom from RR(19 Dec) without wiping data?

~ sent by me
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Will work may be.But not 100% sure.

Just do a back up of ROM+data by t.w.r.p and then flash it.If not working then restore ur previous ROM+data.

U can also clean flash(wiping system+data+cache+ dalvik cache) .Just buck up ur apps +data by Titanium backup.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] helo123:
Yeah using titanium backup to backup apps+data is a better choice than flashing without wiping.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] yourSAS:
I wasn't taking about boot animation. I was referring to the LOGO, in About device page of settings.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] <=BLISS=>:
Lol...my mistake.But it's not that bad,I think:p.

Actually I am loving this newly arrived ROM on mi4i thread.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
some substratum themes will do this work or you can if know how to decompile and recompile framwork file
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
This Rom is really good. Thanks for This.. somehow flashlight can be activated without installing Any app from store?
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] raymond_bqg:
Butter smooth ROM with a lot of customization (Tesla coil). Thanx fenix.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Soft reboot may help sometime.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] xela18:
low mic when recording is fix?
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
No its same as cm14.1
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] compgenie:
Very stable and everything works except gallery like you mentioned. Also some slight performance issues, but I suppose its still being worked on
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] duniatri:
Been using this rom for about a week, so far almost everything is good. No random reboot, 5hrs SOT, and seems I got no low mic volume issue when make a call.

Just some minor common issues which everyone might have known:

1. Flashlight doesn't work

2. Can't connect to the computer using MTP/PTP

3. Can't remember default sim card setting for calling.

Thanks for this ROM, dev. Hope you keep maintain it. :svetius:
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] raymond_bqg:
1&2.problem in most of nougat ROM.Workaround is go to recovery mode,connect ur mobile and enable mtp.That should work.

3.I think some one mention that Google dialer is working for remembering sim for each contact.Though I didn't try.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
New build is Up

Whats New..

1. v3.5

2.Low mic issue fixed

3.bug fixes

Link

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224414012
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] duniatri:
Dirty flash over previous version. Works like a charm :svetius:
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
Thanks for update. Havent used My phone more today than otherdays, with ver 3.4 i would have around 55% bat in the evening, now with 3.5 i AM All down to 22%??

Sendt fra min MI 4i med Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Check the battery stats which app eating you're battery also should be problem with ambient display turn off it and check again.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
Nothing wrong in bat stats, except huge use from over-counted. Will try with ambient off

Sendt fra min MI 4i med Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
Turned off ambient and did a bat calibration, back on 55%

Sendt fra min MI 4i med Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] m4rdi26:
Please change the bootanimation logo

Dikirim dari MI 4i menggunakan XDA Forums Pro.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Use substratum theme and change it
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] Anandroy:
Or change the bootanimation.zip file from the system with other bootanimation.zip whichever you like. :fingers-crossed:
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] drumcodex:
Will fm be fixed?

Sendt fra min MI 4i med Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
No its same as other cutsom roms available for our device
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] compgenie:
I believe there is a serious issue with this ROM, GZR Kernel Aduitor is bugged. When you tap on frequency or any drop-down its just blank and you can't do anything. It also shows 0 frequently
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] ƒεηιx:
Thanks for reporting will check in next version.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ThaRandomAndroid:
That such community, I hope they can solve my doubts, I have my moto g4 plus (XT1641) with dual sim, and unlock the Bootloader and I got cyanogenmod 13, but I found out about the soak test and returned to stock.

1.- When I enter fastboot mode it appears in yellow letters "Software Status: Modified". Is there a way to say "official" again? Does this "modified" status prevent you from receiving OTAs?

2.-What is the last compilation number? I have the compilation MPJ24.139-23.1
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] strongst:
You should look here http://xdaforums.com/moto-g4-plus/help/staus-modified-t3522177

There are questions to your answers
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ThaRandomAndroid:
I tried those methods but, don't solve my problem and doubts. But thanks anyway ?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] strongst:
you should mention all things you did already, no one can look in your mind ;)

Then don't create an thread, head over to the existing one and ask there.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ____Mdd:
Modified status will not affect OTA.. as you said your build no. Is (139-23.1) , it's old, latest is (139-63)..

Just restore stock backup and check for update., May be you will get latest one..:good:
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ThaRandomAndroid:
I don't have a backup... So, please do you have a link or guide? Thanks ?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ____Mdd:
See last reply on that thread, you have link already..
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] ThaRandomAndroid:
I'm sorry, but I've done all the steps, but I do not get the MPJ24.139-63 update, it just tells me that I have my device updated.

What I did was return to rom stock specifically with this file (XT1640-XT1641_ATHENE_6.0.1_MPJ24.139-23.1_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml).

Please let me know if I have done something wrong.

Thank you.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Sharp404:
I have experimented a lot with my XT1643

My software status is also modified even after flashing stock rom....

But software status does not affects the phone a bit...

OTA may not come ! at least didn't in my case even after 15 days...So chill...

Currently I am running CM 14.1 Nightly which is obscenely fast than any stock rom..U can try that
[Member-Found Deals] Michaelgeekie:
NB-6 Bluetooth V4.1 On-Ear Headphones with Mic, Sports APP, NFC Support, Hi-Fi Stereo

Coupon Code: G473H89U (Save $12 off) - $27.99

Color options: Black/Brown/Red

They can be used wired or wireless, and feature NFC, a smart pedometer, microphone, 33-foot wireless range, and 1,100mAh rechargeable battery with 60 hours of music per charge.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Rumours about RK3399 chipset from Rockchip have swept over the internet, and we seem to be barely a soundbite apart from it. Promised to rival the quarter-century old way we think about TV BOX, Vorke has included the RK3399-powered Z3 in its ambitious plans. Next February is expected to mark the birth of the revolutionary gadget.

[IMG="Product 1"][http://blogimage.geekbuying.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/31-667x667.jpg[/IMG]

Adopting Rockchip RK3399, Vorke Z3 is about to outperform almost all of its competitors in market. Unveiled at CES 2016, RK3399 is a Hexa Core processor based on Dual-core ARM Cortex-A72 MPCore and Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 MPCore framework paired with Mali-T860MP4 Quad CoreGPU. Reportedly, it is about to offer a significant performance boost against its predecessors, including RK3288, outranking SoCs from Amlogic and Allwinner. Scored 72483 in Antutu, What a madness!

[IMG="Antutu"]http://blogimage.geekbuying.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/11.jpg"[/IMG]

Unlike other contenders, z3 offers a staggering free storage of 4GB LPDDR3, 32GB of EMMC to back up your TV entertainment, so that you can use it right out of the box. Along side the storage, its worth to point out that Vorke brings together compelling KODI entertainment center and RK3399`s insane 4K image quality into one nifty box. The joining of the Soc conduces to its support for H.265 and VP9 4K video decoding.

[IMG="Product 2"][http://blogimage.geekbuying.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screenshot_20161219-063137.png"][/IMG]

One of the problems with any android box comes to that it entails optimal internet connection and speed to stream the bandwidth hogging that video can take. In account of this, Z3 equips itself with AC wifi, the newest WiFi protocol and has a high speed data transfer speed up-to 1200Mbps under some circumstances. Besides, the support for Gigabit Ethernet is admittedly an afterthought.

[IMG="Interface 1"]http://blogimage.geekbuying.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/21.jpg[/IMG]

When it comes to extension possibilities, there is no prospect of compromise. With 1 USB 2.0 , 1 USB3.0, 1 Type-C and 1 SATA placed at the sides, Z3 enables you to attach USB peripherals or even more storage. The aforementioned Type C port is another highlight in Android 6.0 box, and when you factor in the sheer number of connections on Z3, you begin to realize why it is a little bit bigger than Z1. With support for SATA, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, Gigabit Ethernet, SPDIF, HDMI 2.0, there are few devices you won’t be able to connect to the device.

[IMG="Interface"]http://blogimage.geekbuying.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/41.jpg[/IMG]

What to Expect?

Rockchip RK3399

Android 6.0

4GB + 32GB

AC WIFI + Gigabit Ethernet

4K VP9

USB3.0, Type C and SATA interface
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] KyZurSoZay:
Just got confirmation that my Z1 is supposed to arrive in 3-5 days .......... So any idea what the price will be on this puppy the Z3???? When it will launch??? Antu score is badasszz .
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
How much was your Z1?

I;m guessing the Z3 will be about 40% t0 50% dearer.

Z1 in some webshops is US$ 120 - I'd expect the Z3 to be about $160-180

It looks like a decent unit - but also look around here, Antutu is NOT a reliable bench to quote.

Some have reported a Xperia z3 (if my memory serves me) as doing 71000 in Antutu, others say it should be about 50k.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Z1 is on sale at $74.99 .

Z3 is expected to twice the price of Z3.

We will take on CPU Z .

Some devices did some optimizations on Antutu Benchmark, so that they score pretty high. :o