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[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
I had an email from Vorke, they say "under $200".. so i replied, "Hopefully under $150 as well" hahah! Hope it's not too dear!

What about that 3DMark bench, firestorm (or is it firestrike)... that seems to be a decent test, but it's mainly gpu, isn't it?
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
We will check :fingers-crossed:
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
As a slight sideways jump - I notice its competitor boxes both have heats sink + fan listed in specs - does anyone know if the Vorke is using active cooling?

I think I was right in a different forum's post - maybe the RK chip runs a little hotter than passive cooling can deal with?
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] KyZurSoZay:
So got my Z1 here in No.VA Mon. 16 ordered Jan. 5 at geekbuying. After three days pretty happy. Games I haven't been able to play because of bricked MINIX X8-H, & not being able to root MiBox so PS3 SIXAXIS controller could work run flawlessly on Z1 . Showbox runs smooth ,YouTube,kodi 16.1, Antu 3D score no tweeks 41723. Jide has crowd funded Rockchip 3399 TV box for March or May ,USD $ 99-129:cool:
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
I don't trust a company that need kick-starter/crowd funding to develop a device - they smell like "fly by nighters" to me... produce the device, rake in some dosh, run like buggery when people start to complain or what tech support.

That Mio/MixIO whatever it's called... US$129 on kick-starter... mope, zero trust...

Two things I like about Vorke - they exist as a company, self-funded development... and they responded to my silly queries; pre-sales support suggest good after sales support.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
Just out of interest, I found a US site with a price for the UGOOS UT5 (basically the same as the Vorke Z3) -- $349!!!

What an absolute joke - you could buy a half decent laptop and use that as a TV box, FFS!

I guess that pointless little AMOLED display add to the price.

Still, early days, it might just be a place-holder price.

Edit - why did that double post? Weird.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Jagee:
I agree. What's more I realy don't know what is all the fuss about RK3399? When for more than a year there is Amazon Fire TV available with MediaTek SoC MT8173 (2xA72@2GHz + 4xA53@1.6GHz).

Maybe this is not so good forum to discuss that because MediaTek isn't fond of open source but people preffer working solution than one which you must fiddle all the time to make it work for a while ;).
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
Yes - but the AmFireTV or sort of locked, isn't it - own UI, low customisation, Amazon bias (understandable).

I've heard that the Vorke will be completely unlocked, rooted, open... maybe...

Anyway, the specs say different:

Neither of those will match the RK3399, and the Mali 850mp4 is a very good SoC GPU. Not "superb" or "the best2, but certainly good enough to nearly everything.

I do NOT like Antutu as a benchmark (it's heavily biased to certain chips) but the AFTV gets 53K while the RK3399 gets 73K
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Jagee:
I would be more impressed if my RK3288 device couldn't do 62k in Antutu. AFAIK Antutu is quite strongly GPU biased which might indicate that RK3399 GPU is slower than RK3288 or there are problems with drivers.

Besides I preffer "clear" CPU benchmarks which can give me indication of Internet browsing performance. When I did some research about MT8173 more than year ago I found something like browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=1646914. (Note: Nexus 9 is spoofed identity of my RK3288 device). Then I was quite pleased with that performance improvement but devices with MT8173 came only with 2GB RAM which is to small amount for me. Even so RK3399 isn't realy more impressive to me than MT8173 (check: browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=993600) and we are more than a year after.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Ugoos is a trusted brand.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
We will try other benchmarks also. Recommend one please;)
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Jagee:
I overestimated a little Antutu score for my RK3288 device which should be 62k not 70k. Nevertheless I would realy like to see Vellamo and Octane benchmarks scores for RK3399.

My RK3288 device can do about 4800 points with Chrome in Vellamo.

Geekbench v4 score for RK3399 is rather well known. You can brag only if you beat 1600 single- and 3000 multi-core score ;). browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/993600
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
I'm not disputing that - they have a good track record... but that doesn't stop $349 being too high for this device. And I give them mucho-credit for NOT trying to effing kickstarter the device!

But the amoled screen is really a non-item - what's the point, a TV box is stuck under the TV table; I don't even look at mine, just use it...

And what can a little screen show anyway apart from time or some form of channel display? Any more info would mean you;d have to get down on the floor, closer to it, to read it!

An amoled screen is perhaps $50 of that $150 over pricing ($200 is all I'd be paying for this spec TV box - for $350 you can get a full i7 with intel 520 gpu (400 GFlops) TV Box! The Mali gpu in the RK3399 is rated at about 90 GFLops.

It smells like a gimmick to make it stand out from the other 3 or 4 RK3399 boxes coming.

So I'm less knocking Ugoos themselves and more knocking their "vision" of the yet-to-come TV Box.

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Geekbench 1520 and 2840 isn't too bad - just 160 lower than that magical 3000 isn't to be sniffed at.

Mind you, even Geekbench can be misleading - GB 3 gives over 5300 for the Samsumng Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Qualcomm SoC). (some reviews say 4300, 4800, 5300 (rounded off))
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Jagee:
It might be a gimmic to make it stand out but yours estimation of the cost of such display is quite off. First. It isn't AMOLED display like in smartphones. Second it dosen't have similar size (5" 16:9 proportion).

I've seen OLED displays on MP3 players devices with prices lower than 30$.

3000 is just a number for multicore Geekbench v4 score which heavily depends from number of them. Even mentioned by you Qualcom SoC (MSM8976) in New Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 can get over 5000 points in Geekbench v3 with 8 cores (4xA57 + 4xA53) working simultanously (Source: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462). That doesn't necessary translate to better performance than even just 2xA73.

Another problem when comparing benchmarks is that some devices contains different hardware than previous "batches". Like new (Qualcomm MSM8976) and "old" Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Samsung Exynos 5433 Octa).

Another factor is used benchmarking software and OS. There is clear example: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462 when one test is for older design and with 32bit OS rather than with 64bit (AArch64). I don't want even start about overheating problems which might be per device variable.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
Oh, I agree on the guesstimate - I have no real idea what an oled screen costs - your $30 is probably more valid than my $50 - but that make it worse, not better.

What else is there to make this over $150 more than the other RK3399 boxes - "under $200" stated by Vorke, $115 pre-sale price foe another, and so on.

It MIGHT be a "place holder" number - but it's working against them... I'm not going back to look see what the release price is, the $349 has put me off... especially if it's a "state a high price then a release over-price will sound better".

That's a marketing con, really - you state $349 before release then drop it to a still-too-high $299 or $259 after release and people will flock to it thinking they're getting a great deal. (Not saying they're doing it that way)

But the other RK3399 boxes? £115 pre-release, expected to be £140 after; Vokre has stated to me, in email, "definitely under $200".

And i FULLY agree with you about the benchies.

Perhaps the better benchies are the real-world ones... game FPS -- 5.2 for one SoC, 14.8 for another, 25.7 for a third, and so on.

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Still - I'm liking this 6 core box... it's better than almost everything I've looked at - allowing for the Tegra devices that are semi-locked (heavily controlled launchers and biased "features" (understandable, of course, like the Amazon devices).
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Jagee:
I haven't got any nVidia Shield TV device that's why for me it's hard to say how much those restriction would bother me. Right now I only realy need root access to change WebView application to newer version which Shield does automaticaly from Google Play Store because its OS version isn't "clean" ASOP compilation. Also Xposed seems to be nice but Fake WiFi is less and less needed (app developers learn to check internet connections other than wireless).

As for Tegra for me this is another disapointment of this year. No new SoC and only face lifting of the Shield TV box :(.
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Z3 will be released before the end of March
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Quietsch:
with Android 7 ? ATV ?
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
With PEIC and SATA . Z2 will be running android 7.0
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Quietsch:
Z2 ? I only know Z3 ! When available ?
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Z3 before the end of this month. Z2 next week perhaps. :victory:
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
April 15th now and still no sign of these RK3399 boxes...
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Its somewhat delayed .
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Before the end of April
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
Dea firend,

Vorke z3 is available now!!!! SATA3.0,PCIE 2.1,2*2 MIMO AC WIFI
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
According to GeekBuying, it's shipping in 8 days... but then I've also seen it go from 30th March to 30th April on another shopper site.

I'm-a-gonna wait, I think, let the early adopters find the faults and flaws.. I'm not in a hurry any more, they left it too long.

If it had come out in February, I'd have bought one... now... it's more "Meh"..

Out of interest - where did you see it "available now"?
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] linhuizhen:
I`d say that`s a smart move!!

Available for pre-order. :p
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] Fluffbutt:
Update - the reviews are out and it looks like utter shyt.

Thankfully I didn't "early adopt"... you gotta have a little pity for them, especially as it's now cheaper on Geekbuying than the "pre-release" price (LOL)

https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/0...99-tv-box-review-part-2-android-6-0-firmware/

It turns out that this "TV box" is totally CRAP for videos... so what's the effing point!?

(whew... dodges a bullet there)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ceroglu:
I just got another honor 8 (blue sapphire). I originally also had a midnight black that I got few weeks ago. The fingerprint sensors look different in both phones. The black one has a matte finish and the blue sapphire has a glossy finish. I don't remember having a plastic cover on my black one when I unboxed it, do you guys remember or noticed if there was a cover on the blue sapphire one? It still reads the fingerprint but it looks different.

Thanks.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
i am shocked really . am waiting my phone throw china mail will arrive shortly ! i cant say but all honor 8 have same shape and same every thing except the color ! can u share me a photo of the phone ??
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Please share some pics
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
i have a fast heart beat already , hope i don't get heart attack :'(
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
But why ?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
i faced 1 time since 1 year i receive a fake sony xperia Z throw mail was a clone phone

some times u get faked even throw ebay or amazone !
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Depends on seller .better take a video while unboxing
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
i know , but its about time only of replace or refund ! .
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Yes .. These days even real pieces are replaced with fake ones and are asking refund
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
nothing can be done except waiting today evening or tomorrow morning arrival !.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Let's hope good ! All the best
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Romiui:
Yeah ! .. :o
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Patience is a virtue. :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ceroglu:
I don't know if I would be able to capture the difference between two fingerprint scanners with a picture. But, I can definitely tell that one has a matte finish and the other one(blue sapphire) has a glossy finish. That is why I was confused whether there was a plastic cover on it or not. Both fingerprint scanners perform similar. I bought both phones phones from B&H photo in US. I registered both phones on honor's website for the 3 month accidental warranty. They both registered fine, so I don't think they are fake.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
But it would be great atleast with a video
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Sad56:
I've a black one and the fingerprint has a matte finish.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5X
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] xontec:
Mine too and i ordered a second black it has the matte finish on the print too.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] BonezMontana:
I can confirm the on my phone which is also black.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
That looks really elegant.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] prabakard:
i have black one. yeah i didn't see a cover on the fingerprint sensor.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Can the cover be removed ?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] skeeterfood:
My blue phone definitely has a black glossy fingerprint scanner.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Nyssa1104:
It's not Black but dark Blue with the Blue Honor 8.

Shine a touch light on it and you'll see that it's not black..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Thanks
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ceroglu:
I am glad that you confirmed this. It is weird that midnight black has a matte sensor and blue sapphire has a glossy one. I thought it was a plastic cover and tried to remove but realized that it was finished that way.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
If u had tried hard u should have sensor in your hand instead if finger on sensor . ðŸ˜‚
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ceroglu:
Yeah, definitely. I even put couple small scratches on it while trying to remove it. But, it still works fine despite the effort. [emoji106]
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] skeeterfood:
Yep, it sure is.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Nyssa1104:
:good::o Now you know
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] cndndsltr:
Ivr had a black on since they were released and recently bought a blue one for a family member. I also realised that the black one has a plastic (I think) scanner and the blue one has a glass ( I think) one. I didn't find any differences in their speed or anything else though. Wonder why they didn't put the glossy one on the black honor 8.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
May be it might be a glass one though but somewhat it appears like plastic (I think so )
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] 551790:
Glossy Blue one here
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gopinaidu77:
Cool one you got there. :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] 551790:
I meant glossy is the Fingerprint Sensor on my BLUE 8 :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CronaMell:
I own a midnight black, and I find a matt finish for the fp is better :)
[XDA Assist] GracilianoJ:
I have an Moto maxx xt1225 and i want to make root on it but first i need to do a full backup, apps + data, accounts, (like a full ROM backup), since i have some pretty important things on it, how can i do this full backup? i don't mean having to use 2 or 3 tools to do it if it don't require too much complex knowledge.
[XDA Assist] Razvan:
Hi there,

Here is what you are looking for:

[GUIDE] How to do a FULL low level backup of your Android Device

For more questions related to your device please use this forum:

Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good luck
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
I unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP. Everything was fine. I put SuperSU.zip into the phone, booted into TWRP, installed SuperSU.zip, and then selected wipe cahe/dalvik before exiting. Now I only get the erecovery. I then did a factory reset within TWRP and now I just get the Chines erecovery. Is there anything I can do?

Thank you

edit: I can see about 2GB of data in my system folder as well as others. It looks like the EMUI is there. My phone just doesn't know how to boot to it.

edit 2: I was able to sideload KangVIP but I'd rather have the stock ROM. Does anybody know where one is available?
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] MarkAndroid:
Hello, as you have unlocked the bootloader? With the dc-unlock software?

Thanks
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] jetherson:
How did you install TWRP if you only see the erecovery?

My adb was working earlier today, but now, when I "

adb reboot bootloader

", it just says "

error: device '(null)' not found

"

EMUI isn't loading now.

That last thing I did was run "

flash_all.bat

" in "

EDI-AL10-C233B027_6.0

" from https://mega.nz/#!VRN2AICD!HqTY2ai1XAl-bOoCFW_YfBoyhOr6GhoiWXL68l7QNhg

The flashing was successfull but after it rebooted, I just encountered bootloops.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
Yes I unlocked the bootloader. I think when I went back into TWRP, ran the SuperSU.zip file and then wiped the cache/dalvik, that's what did it. Before I did that, after I unlocked my bootloader, I was able to reboot and boot back into EMUI no problem.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
So this is the stock Honor Note 8 image? I think I'll just do an adb sideload within TWRP with this badboy and be ok. I'm going to backup beforehand.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] MarkAndroid:
For unlocking the bootloader you followed the step by step instructions to the topic:

http://xdaforums.com/general/general/huawei-honor-note-8-unlock-bootloader-t3488142

You're forced to buy the key (4 euro) on the site:

https://www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-r...er-unlock-code

Thanks
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] jetherson:
No! That's NOT the stock note8 image.

That came from http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70055340&postcount=658
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
Yes. I actually bought 7 credits but yes I did that. My backup failed and I continued anyway.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
Ok got it. But is it safe to use on my HN8 anyway? This KangVIP rom sucks so bad.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] jetherson:
The B017 stock honor note 8 is

EDI-AL10C233B017CUSTC233D002_Firmware_China_Chann.zip

Try searching for that file.

BTW, I solved my problem awhile ago. I actually used that file. I had to extract the UPDATE.APP from it.

This phone is very difficult to brick.
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
What about the B022 stock honor note 8 firmware? I believe that's the exact one that came with my phone.

Thank you very much for the help!
[Huawei Honor Note 8 Questions & Answers] flint24:
Nevermind. Everything is fine now. I loaded the firmware you have in your post saving the data on my sdcard. Everything works beautifully. Thank you very much. Consider this case closed.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] Bankkposeidon:
Mi4i - I faces one problem of low Speaker Volume Output is there any solution for it ?
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] Bankkposeidon:
How to fix ?
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] nykdpk:
Official Cyanogenmod 14.1 Motorola athene Released for Moto G4/G4 Plus.Find the below link for Download.

https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=athene
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] hooks024:
That's a negative. My understanding is the soak test is needed in the plus because of finger print scanner issues. I have the XT1625 and it runs great without the soak test. Flash the quark kernel too. Waaaaaay better benchmark results.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] hooks024:
Glad to hear you're all set up. Try quark kernel when you get a chance. Makes sure you get 2.0,because the other ones caused a boot loop for me.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mexickano:
I've just rooted my phone, I'm in 6.0.1, I just need to download and put this in SdCard, later Install w/o gapps and it will works?
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikemelbrooks:
I flashed the ROM and wiped and then flashed gapps, gallery is crashing for me.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mexickano:
Same here, issues with gallery, I couldnt install Gapps, I got error code 20.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisjwild:
Were you trying to install the arm64 gapps? I could only install the arm gapps.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikemelbrooks:
I updated to the last nightly build which seems to have fixed the gallery bug for me, but now the camera can't access the sdcard to save pictures or videos when the card is set as internal.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] fweezal:
Running 12222016 as of this morning. Have been using it since it first hit the streets. Seems a little unstable. While it's running, it runs great. However, for no apparent reason it reboots my device. I can't seem to pinpoint the cause as it happens sporadically and randomly.

I noted that the blue light filter "sort of" works. It has to be manually activated. Tried the automatic route but it's hit or miss.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] pastorbob62:
That would be because the "other ones" are for MM based ROM's and 2.0/2.2 are for Nougat.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikemelbrooks:
Fixed the camera by clearing the camera data and cache!:)
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mexickano:
Im a dumb, I was installing other gapps, now Im not getting any issue, only about video recording but I'll fix it flashing a boot.img.

Thanks to all.
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] joeeboogz:
I always install ROM boot it then go to browser and search Gapps it automatically finds the one I need then just download and reboot to recovery and install so I don't have any issues the Roms are all comparable for bothering devices but I think arm is different between devices if that helps anybody
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] nykdpk:
:(:crying: Sad News Guys Cyanogen is shutting down all its services from 31st Dec 2016.

But

http://lineageos.org/
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snearde:
Hi,

I bought a Moto G4 for Christmas. I'll receive it tomorrow, and so I'm looking for a good custom rom. I had the Moto G 2014 LTE (thea) running CM14.1. I notice that the last CM build available for athene is the 20161225, and I'd like to know if it's stable. Does it have an option to make volume buttons control media volume instead of ringtone, for instance ?

Thank you, 'n have a nice day ! :)
[Moto G4 Guides, News, & Discussion] L1K3AB055UK:
Yo is cm 14.1 gonna get xposed