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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
The point that you and many others seem to completely overlook is the options open to different people in different markets.

Here in the UK, there is no suitable replacement phone on the market, period.

I can live without the s-pen, even though I like using it.

I can live without the iris scanner, even though I love the double-layer of protection it affords and I use it every day.

But I do not want a 1080p screen because it would be useless for VR

I don't want an LCD screen because I've had OLED for years and think they are massively superior

I NEED a micro sd slot because my phone is also my media player and I have 120GB of music I like to carry with me

I NEED more than 32GB of ram because I have a lot of apps

I NEED a really good camera

I like waterproof

I like USB-C, especially since the other phones in our house are now USB-C and anyway it's the way forward.

So what am I expected to switch to? Name me one device that would be a suitable replacement right now? The ZTE Axon 7 could be a possibility, but they are rare as rocking horse s**t over here and I am not buying from China on ebay. The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is not available yet. The Pixel is horrible, costs a fortune (even more so in 128GB form), has no microsd and most other of the above missing. The OnePlus 3 has a crappy 1080p screen. etc etc etc

Samsung are suggesting I switch to an S7E and lock myself into a 2 year contract with an S7E, so that I cannot upgrade to an S8E when that comes out in March. Do you think that sounds appealing?

And they are offering NO money back and the same cost per month for a much inferior product.

And you think we are mad to keep our Note7's? From where I am sitting, I'd be mad to return it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Jammol:
Wait, so what will you guys do if your phone does explode?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drunkenbloke:
Explode ?

Will log it as the first note 7 to explode as overheating and melting due to thermal runaway (or what ever the term is) is different to exploding. Why are you not all asking the same of the iphone 7 after the guy cycling had his melt in his back pocket burning his leg while turned off.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Jammol:
Do I look like an iPhone guy?! Please just stop. You obviously understood my question in its form, now you want to be an idiot about it?! Good job! :highfive:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drunkenbloke:
Yep I understood your question you asked about them exploding which as far as I am aware none have done yet.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Well that's when its time to return it I suppose :D

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
How ironic.

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Correct.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ProtoDeVNan0:
Banggood isn't like Aliexpress. You wait but You get a real non fake device from official manufacturer.

And I have no idea what Samsung does with people who got their Note 7s with a contract. I think they should keep Your current contract but replace the device and lower contract price by the phones price difference.

And Mi Mix comes with most of those specs that Note 7/S7 Edge has.

Snapdragon 821.

6GB ram.

256GB UFS 2.0.

2040x1080 IPS Display (which isn't bad at all.) Newest ips displays are really close to amoleds. Even with deep blacks.

6'44 inch.

4400mAh battery.

Usb type c.

Quick Charge 3.0

16mp camera f2.0, 4k video.

For me this phone is a lot better than my s7 edge.

If Samsung would recall s7 edge and gave me my money back I would definitely go with this one.

But if the Note 7 fits You the most then keep it. If You don't care about updates, then sure.

And I prefer big phones (7-8 inch) just because I have big hands and s7 edge looks quite like a matchbox in my hands.

Once I had a 7 inch phablet and it was great. Only specs were poor but for doing everything on it.. perfect. Now I have a chinese tablet with specs that are nearly better than my s7 edge (got it for 200 usd) and if it only had ability to call I would use it as my phone. It even fits inside my pocket!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Yes, on a contract it's a mess. I am signed up for £42/m for 24 months $1,300 and I am 3 months in. If I switch to S7E, guess how much they reduce it by? £0.00. Absolutely bloody disgusting! When you think of the inconvenience we've all suffered, having to go through the 1st replacement, accessories that will no longer work and all of the hassle and stress and their BEST offer is to take a S7E for the same money. SAMSUNG, THAT ABSOLUTELY STINKS.

Or I can cancel the contract and watch my supplier **** up with the PAC code and me losing the number I've had for 17 years. I've asked them what the procedure is and half the time they say I need to get a PAC first, and the other times they say no they'll do that in store. I have ZERO confidence that they won't **** it up.

And after all this, I would be VERY reluctant to import a phone from China to be honest, but thanks for the recommendation anyway. If I could get a Huawei Mate 9 Pro from a UK supplier here, I'd swap tomorrow.

But I can't.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Chippy_boy, I understand your concern, but I think the hate is somewhat misdirected. Surely the cost of a plan is nothing to do with Samsung, it is up to your service provider to decide?

If you purchased outright and got no incentives to replace with an S7E by Samsung, very much agree it is poor (just got a $350 gift card from Samsung finally after downgrading to the S7E).

My service provider here (Optus) could see through their HLR or whatever that I was using an N7 still and were offering to take it from me and put me on a new 2 year contract with $100 credit to start, to get an S7E, the rep was probably wondering why I laughed so hard at him. I had already explained to him that I had purchased the phone outright directly from Samsung, so his wonderful(sarc) offer was actually locking me into a 2 year plan for a phone I actually didn't want. (My existing plan is about 3 months away from the end to paying off the Note 4 I gave my wife when I purchased the N7).

I said to please keep me in mind to providing credit/good deal/whatever when the Note 8 is released.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I am not so sure it has "nothing to do with Samsung". Samsung provide the phones to the carriers and resellers and SURELY??? the carriers aren't just giving their own money away when giving you a $100 credit? And what about the $350 gift card, that I also don't get?

Anyway, it matters not. The fact is the return package I am being offered is unappealling. I've decided I am keeping my Note 7 whilst it continues to work perfectly. I *may* seek to change it for an S8 in March / April, and if I get any resistance to that, then I won't bother and will just keep it indefinitely. (I am not remotely motivated by Nougat or lack thereof).

Should the situation change, and the phone ends up being blocked then they will have to replace it and if I get any hassle at that point, I will take my supplier to court, since the goods would no longer be "fit for purpose", nor "as described", nor "of satisfactory quality". Failure on any of these points is a breach of UK law, so it would be a slam dunk.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
I didn't explain it well. I purchased my N7 from Samsung directly, their offer was $250+RRP price difference to the phone they would replace it with, S7 or S7E. But what carriers offered is entirely different, of course subsidised by Samsung but ultimately you organise with the carrier and not Samsung.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Thanks, and yes you explained it perfectly. My point is that if Samsung are handing out $350 credits in some territories, (a) they should be doing the same in ALL territories, and (b) they should be giving the resellers significant compensation as well, so that the resellers can offer similar credits.

Regards (a), it is wholly unreasonable I think, to have a global recall (especially in this case where Samsung are so very determined to get every phone returned) and yet to offer generous incentives in some territories and no incentives in others. If it's a global initiative, then it should have global and reasonably consistent incentives.

And (b) likewise the channel. It's utterly ridiculous to expect people to swap their Note7 for something inferior, and get no refund. If Samsung are so determined to get the phones back, then surely they must realise that resellers not offering any incentives, is not helping. What are Samsmug doing about that? Nothing.

And yet they continue to bang on about how you should hand your phone back. SAMSUNG: if you want it back, make it worth my while. All stick and no carrot is not doing it for me.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drunkenbloke:
Chippy_boy completely agree with all you have said I have been trying to return my Note7 to O2 for over two months now their customer service on the the return is awful. All chasing with UK Mail has been left to me and I have had several days off work waiting on a courier that never arrives I am getting no compensation for my time and have pretty much lost all patience with them.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] corvette72778:
The answer is YES. You can still get an update without your SIM card and without your Wifi on. If the mobile data is on it WILL update. Just started up my S7 Edge replacement without the sim in (still in my Note 7) and the wifi not connected to my network yet. As soon as it started up it started downloading an update. I was surprised. The best way to to block updates as discussed in previous threads. I still haven't got an update on my Note 7 since I download the app to block them. Without the update blocking app you aren't "protected". lol
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Wow, I am really surprised at that.

Obviously the carrier can access your phone without a sim, since they will allow emergency calls without a sim installed. So clearly a sim is not required in order for a phone to work.

But Samsung are not a carrier. I would have thought they would need to push updates to phones properly registered on the network. I am surprised they also can access phones without sims. Unless they get the network operators to push the updates for them? I guess I don't know how it works, but I am surprised anyway.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] corvette72778:
LOL

Why are so many people misinformed about the Note 7? There is a saying don't believe everything you read but people believe everything they read. People do not stop to think about what was written and if it is valid. News outlets automatically add note 7 to the title if there is some phone that melted. Take the news this weekend about Ceelo. The first headline out was Note 7 explodes and leaved Ceelo unconcious. It was never verified that it was a Note 7. There is no mention on the entire internet to support that this phone was used or thats the phone Ceelo used. It was just thrown into the headline because it will get more clicks. As it turns out, it was a stunt by Ceelo. But even then a note 7 was still not mentioned thats the phone he used.

I remember another article months ago about a Note 7 burning a kids hand. As it turns out, Note 7 was added to the title. It was later reported that it was not a Note 7, it was a Galaxy Prime.

Soo many people on here and around the world are misinformed and their perception is that you have a 99.999% chance of getting some type of burn or explosion from your Note 7. In fact its the opposite. About a .0003% chance which is just slightly higher than an S7 edge or iphone 7 but either way it is about the same as getting struck by lightening or getting hit by a car.

I am shocked how many incompetent people there are out there!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
No, it's like holding a hand grenade with the pin pulled out. It can go off at any moment and could rip the side off buildings :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] neavissa:
Damn it... I thought so! OK, I know you all will hate me asking, but where do I find the thread that talks about installing the "stop updates" app???

thanks,

G
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] yevgen225:
Very strange but I have been thinking the same way you do. Especially when another thing happened - When Note 7 was banned by some airline companies and then the very next week they announced explosion of already recalled note 7 right on the plane. It is seems suspicious to me. They probably did it intentionally.

If some advanced tech guy wants his phone to overheat which in some cases could lead to explosion it could be done by modifying software which controls battery functions and charging.

I won't be surprised if in near future they will find out that note 7 explosions it's only a conspiracy sabotage against Samsung. Why knows.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I don't know mate. Perhaps we will never know for sure what this has all been about.

A small point though: I think there were around 2.5m Note7's shipped (and another 1.5m replacements). The total number in the market when Samsung finally decided to cancel the product was I believe 2.5m. On December 9th, Samsung said they 90% had been returned, so there were at that time 250,000 still in use. Even if half of those have since been returned, there's still over 100,000 Note7's out there at this time.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] themissionimpossible:
About the possible "voluntary" term misunderstanding... maybe you and others missed this explicative post about this definition:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69116188&postcount=21

To sum up:

voluntary means that the recall has been asked "voluntarily" by a manufacturer/seller (Samsung in this case)

mandatory means that an authority has imposed the recall on a manufacturer/seller

Therefore the "voluntary" has nothing to do with a possible customer's option to comply or not with the recall!

I hope these 2 terms are more clear now...;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69139711&postcount=16
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Well, since I have the option to not comply, and I am exercising the option, you are obviously mistaken.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] themissionimpossible:
Some are able to read and are able to understand, some others apparently are not able to read ...;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Your phone and service are two different things. The phone you're using has been recalled by its manufacturer as potentially dangerous. Your wireless carrier has made available numerous options for you to return or exchange your recalled phone. For whatever reason you've chosen not to avail yourself of those options. I'd assume when the Note7 is disabled those options will still be available to you. What's the problem?

A "hoax" perpetrated by who? Samsung? They lost billions of dollars, lost face, and went without a Fall flagship to battle the iP7 and Pixel. Samsung wanted us to buy and use a Note7 as badly as we all wanted to. A higher number of Note7's than normal or acceptable overheated due to a battery defect. The speculation that makes the most sense is that Samsung tried to cram too much battery in to a too small battery cell. The fix would have been to reengineer the battery cell with it most likely being a smaller capacity than the one people paid for. It would leave their latest "flagship" with worse battery performance than the S7-series and its competitors. Even if they went forward with that option every Note7 sold would still have to be recalled and replaced with a newer smaller capacity battery version. That would mean compensation and/or refunds for original Note7 purchasers who didn't get what they paid for. At the end of the day that route wouldn't leave Samsung much better off than pulling the plug. So they did.

Bottom line is keeping a Note7 is going to be more and more difficult. People that aren't techies or hobbyists are going to be taken out when Samsung and/or the carriers push out disabling updates or block network access. The phone will never be updated or see official Nougat, no one will perform warranty or paid service on it, and parts are going to difficult to find for do-it-yourself repairs. XDA devs will stop developing for it because who wants to support a ROM used by such a small group of people. At some point even techies and hobbyists will get tired of fighting an uphill battle. Look at this forum. There are like five regular posters left with fewer and fewer posts made each passing day. At some point you've just got to accept that it is what it is.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] faslane:
Agreed. My only intention was to let people know it's coming and many took it out of context but yep. Their phone. If they can afford it. up to them +1

Fas
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] EvilHowl:
Hi, I want to use fingerprint to lock screen (like Nougat soak test) in CM14.1. Is there any way to do this?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] strongst:
How is it done in N soak test? You can use long press or double tap on home button as alternative. I'm doing so on RR.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] EvilHowl:
Thanks.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] daverobinson88:
I don't have CM but I can assume it might be in the accessibility options?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] EvilHowl:
Nope, it isn't :(
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] strongst:
I tested this with earlier device, maybe it has what you want http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-fingerprint-to-unlock-t3466549
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] chaitu@95:
There are different kernels supporting that
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] 1chrome:
Try that app. I guess it has options to put phone to sleep on interacting with FP sensor.

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I believe most custom kernels available only support FP as home button and not to lock the screen.

However some have SwipeToSleep as a feature.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] chaitu@95:
The seems to work only a few times after that screen doesn't get locked by fp
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RelQM:
I've tried ROM Manager via Play Store but ROM Manager doesn't list Samsung Galaxy S6 as one of compatible devices. Only S3 is listed. I've already tried Googling it but can't find anything. I'd really appreciate any help.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forumber2:
Clockworkmod & ROM Manager is really outdated and should'nt be used.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RelQM:
I see. It looks like TWRP is the other option. But CWM is one of the requirements for this:

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960

Thoughts?

E: Looks like TWRP will do. Where should I look for installation guides?

I tried using TWRP Manager from Play Store but that didn't work. The app is just stuck on the start screen. I guess I really need to use ADB for this.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TENN3R:
CWM was written in that thread because was the standar recovery for almost every phone, but TWRP on S6 is a must because the only CWM based (Philz by arter) for S6 is too out dated.

For get TWRP just download the latest from the TWRP official website for S6 and flash through Odin, then you're done.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RelQM:
Thanks a lot! I wouldn't have known that without reading through the entire thread. I really appreciate it.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RelQM:
Sorry to bother you again. But there are two files with the same version on that page. One is "twrp-3.0.2-1-zeroflte.img.tar" and the other is "twrp-3.0.2-1-zeroflte.img." What does .tar mean and what difference does it make? I honestly have no clue which one to use and what to do with them.

E: After a couple of Google results, it looks like .tar is some kind of archive. Although I still don't know how to use it.

OK so apparently, I need the .tar file because that's what ODIN uses. But I would still be happy to know what the other file is used for. I'll post results for anyone who may have the same questions.

Just flashed TWRP using ODIN. Everything looks fine. Also created NANDroid backup. TWRP up and running! Thanks for the help, [MENTION=6223007]TENN3R[/MENTION].
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TENN3R:
Perfect, yes Odin format is .tar, but if you want just to update your TWRP you can download the .img (new version from site) and flash directly from TWRP :good:
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RelQM:
Thanks again! You're the best!
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AMaXOnLine:
Since I flashed the open beta 8, I have two boot screen (with the big START on top/right)

One with orange google link then one with red google.

It's ok or I've made a mistake ?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] skymera:
It's normal.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AMaXOnLine:
OK thank's you.

And one of them will disappear with final version?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] LS.xD:
[MENTION=2461187]skymera[/MENTION] - Thats not "normal" of course. If you didn't perform a clean flash or updated in the rigth way, the bootloader will show dm verification error (the red warning)

You need to perform a full wipe and flash the Open Beta again to get rid of the warning.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Explorer23:
OB8 and 9 need to be flashed with stock recovery (preferably sideloaded), otherwise you'll get that second screen (dm-verity err).

But it's not really an issue, it doesn't affect anything.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AMaXOnLine:
OK, I would do it more properly for the next update or for the final release.

Thanks for your answers !
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] sahed01:
how you're planning to do that? by stock recovery (with bootloader locked)?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AMaXOnLine:
I dont really know, probably by flashing stock recovery before updating?

In the worst case, I can back to the factory OS when the final Nougat will be available, no?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] sahed01:
yes. you can. you'll have to go back to 3.2.X then flash stock recovery then side load official stable 7.0.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AMaXOnLine:
OK, thank's a lot
[Android General] enetec:
Reserved. :silly:
[Android General] giri@nwrk.biz:
Can you please provide the 4PDA forum link of TWRP for this phone? Thanks for your post anyways :)
[Android General] enetec:
Added in OP. Don't expect to find more anyway... :p
[Android General] giri@nwrk.biz:
I can confirm that this TWRP build also works fine with the newest OUKITEL_C4_V17.0_20161124 Firmware. Important: before flashing TWRP disable your boot lock code, otherwise you will softbrick your device.

Entec do you have an 4pda Account? If yes it would be really awesome if you could add the second TWRP recovery image for oukitel phones with the Rxx_xxxx ROM to OP.

EDIT:

I successfully installed XPOSED on my C4! This rocks the **** out of an 50 EUR budget phone!
[Android General] salvarez01:
Hello thank you for your information, could you provide us also TWRP for 32bits version (R06), I have tried to download from de forum but file is not avalaible.

regards
[Android General] giri@nwrk.biz:
We need someone with 4PDA Account....

However, have you tried to install the 64Bit rom? You can get the Stock 64 Bit Rom from needrom.com. I advise you to do the software update before flashing TWRP linked in this thread.
[Android General] salvarez01:
Hello thank you I have flashed 64 bits Rom and updated to V17, now all OK with TWRP and SuperSU.

Seam 64 bits version more slow than R06, but OK.

Thanks.
[Android General] salvarez01:
Hello I have tried to use native sip editing the files in /system/etc/permissions but the option is not available in phone menu. Someone know how to activate?

Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Android General] giri@nwrk.biz:
I managed to create an account on 4pda.ru and downloaded twrp for all firmware versions!

Files are attached!

Use twrp_recovery_C4_V.zip if your phone uses the OUKITEL_C4_VXX.X_XXXXXXXX firmware (Tested with OUKITEL_C4_V17.0_20161124)

Use twrp_recovery_R0x.zip if your phone uses the R0X_XXXXXX firmware. (Tested with R06_102033)
[Android General] pop003:
Where is OUKITEL_C4_V17.0_20161124 firm now?

I can't find it at needrom.com.