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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GFridrich3:
I know that my post count is low, mostly because i just got my tilt 2 weeks ago and still deciding if i want to keep it or not. I love everything about it except video playback. I CANT wait until the end of February for CorePlayer 1.2 if i plan to return this, and cant justify a 25 dollar purchase for a stopgap software version 1.1.3

I am willing to put down $30USD to the developer that releases a stable hardware solution for the Tilt. So long as i dont return the device before my 30 days are up. I will post again if i do return it for something else so you can cancel my pledge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sane:
I had offered 20$, but if someone really is able to get the drivers to work I will give 50$...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
put me down for $30 USD, so i can watch the daily show and other tv shows while i'm at school/work/waiting for traffic to die down for my commute
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Sorry to dissapoint, but that's not going to happen before your 30 days are up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Killou:
If this driver would work for the Polaris as well, count me in for $20.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
digg?

The story created some stir in Digg.com because of an Engadget article...

A good followup story could be done if someone with a unlimited transfer website service posts about the bounty prize on digg, they have over 1 million registered users - most of them computer enthusiasts - that could probably help.

Submiting the story to engadget could work to...

the only thing i worry about is spam tho :S

just a thought...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] adamdford:
Pledge $20.00

Tell me which paypal account to send it to and its done!!!! I pledge $20.00 now and will pay now if possible.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anjew:
Put me down for $20 US
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
I will put the story on Digg.com. I will supply a direct link to this thread. The title will be Kaiser Video Bounty-$5200 raised so far and climbing. What you think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] unk3:
It's pretty clear HTC customers and Engadget readers both are none too impressed with the manufacturer's decision to omit the drivers necessary to enable hardware video acceleration on a number of their Qualcomm MSM 7xxx-based devices. We heard a little bit from HTC on the topic earlier this week, but we wanted to know more specifically: do they plan to meet consumers' requests and release drivers for these devices? (And if not, why?) Finally, what's going to be done about this video acceleration driver issue in the future? Here's the response we got to these questions (and the reader poll we posted):

"HTC does plan to offer software upgrades that will increase feature functionality, over the air wireless speeds, and other enhancements for some of the phones being criticized, but we do not anticipate including any additional support for the video issues cited in customer complaints. It is important for customers to understand that bringing this functionality to market is not a trivial driver update and requires extensive software development and time.

HTC will utilize hardware video acceleration like the ATI Imageon in many upcoming products. Our users have made it clear that they expect our products to offer an improved visual experience, and we have included this feedback into planning and development of future products."

"To address lingering questions about HTC's current MSM 7xxx devices, it is important to establish that a chipset like an MSM7xxx is a platform with a vast multitude of features that enable a wide range of devices with varied functionality. It is common that devices built on platforms like Qualcomm's will not enable every feature or function.

In addition to making sure the required hardware is present, unlocking extended capabilities of chipsets like the MSM 7xxx requires in-depth and time consuming software development, complicated licensing negotiations, potential intellectual property negotiations, added licensing fees, and in the case of devices that are sold through operators, the desire of the operator to include the additional functionality. To make an informed decision about which handset suits them best, consumers should look at the product specification itself instead of using the underlying chipset specifications to define what the product could potentially become."

Well, sounds like that's that. Users shouldn't expect drivers for current devices, but HTC apparently intends to beef up hardware video acceleration in some (but not necessarily all) future Qualcomm based devices.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/25/htc-further-responds-to-video-driver-issue-will-improve-future/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kevinniven:
I'll add some more

Put me in for $225.00 just because I'm pissed!!!!!!!:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kayaraya:
I would like to contribute U$D 30 when a solution is found to speed up graphics and media processing. And that's a promise! It's not much but it comes from the heart. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petsampress:
that might be a problem of the adjustment to business in taiwan. the costumer isnt that important like in europe or usa. theve got another interpretation of quality management and cotumerorientation. this hole thing might takes years. they simply dont care about us as long their sales figures grow because there a many people out here who dont care about this graphic lag.

what we can do is just let all the people know whats going on. we have to build more blogs and we need someone who could write a pressarticle and post it in known pr portals. our only chance is to get this thing big and increase the sales figures.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] diigibio:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I was browsing through their meeting notes they publish online and discovered this link about a meeting they held on the 22nd Jan 08 in regards to our problem. They claim that their is no liability for a lawsuit and have put N/A under action they need to take. Looks like this is related to the USA statement release (But meeting seems to have taken place in Taiwan). So it looks like we are getting the finger!!

Anyway, here is the link for those interested:

http://www.htc.com/press_room/03-press-4-2008-0122.htm

Wow, looks like HTC lost all my further business. I'll have around £800 to spend on my next phone by August and HTC ain't seeing any of it!! So up your HTC!! HELLO APPLE!!

diigimatrix (diigibio)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
All I can say is WOW:(. Sad!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BlueByte:
So who’s the boss of HTC and who is the person responsible for in my opinion “a misleading product”.

Do we have any pictures of this person/persons? I’m reading that the consumer isn’t that important in Taiwan so maybe public shame/pride is? A lawsuit might be lost but let’s look at all the negative publicity it will generate. It might be cheaper for HTC to do the right thing and get some drivers for a Ferrari with no gearbox.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] yannick69:
Put me in for $20 US for a working driver!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CLShortFuse:
Add me for $20
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] md23128:
I'm in for $30

will we ever get wat we want? :)

m.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brayndeded:
***NEWS FLASH*** December 31 2008---

HTC will issue a statement at the end of this year..2008.. stating they report RECORD LOSSES and dont know why because they are so 'in touch' with their customers...:confused: .

In fact, with sales so low, there have been reports of secret meetings between HTC and the ACME BRICK Company to sell off hundreds of thousands of unsold units in a last ditch effort to try to make a profit!

When asked why he chose HTC to try to partner with, CEO of ACME BRICK, Wile E. Coyote boldly stated that "these are the most advanced form of bricks we have ever seen, and they are sure to 'lock' together seemlessly with the style of brick we curently use." "In fact" (Mr Coyote stated), these bricks seem to be in a more advanced state of fossilizing decay then those made just one or 2 years ago. When you touch them, there is very little movement, they are truely a solid brick in every aspect." :eek:

Later in the meeting it was also reported that part of the reason why ACME got the units so cheap was because the first project set to be constructed with the new ACME/HTC bricks is said to be a 50 foot high wall to completely surround each of the HTC corporate headquarters buildings in Taiwan, United States and Europe.

This reporter wanted to know what HTC was up to. Thus, begins our journey.

Our repeated calls to HTC went unanswered for weeks, until we finally got through to one person, who wished to remain unnamed, who commented cold heartedly in what seemed to be a predetermained statement that he was forced to use, by simply saying: ""These bricks do still provide a rich experience comparable to that of most other bricks and enable a variety of uses".

hmmm...could HTC be hiding something?

will ACME be happy with its partnership?

stay tuned for part two of this report...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
New Total: $5485.51

I didn't know if I should take the $225 pledge for the listing... anyways the Total as of tight now is:

$5485.51

The user list on the first post is not being updated as far as I know, but every pledge is being accounted for. =)

It would be fun to contact an HTC developer and offer him the money :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] toyfreak:
I have an Athena but I'm pissed too... Put me in for $50 US if the fix benefits the Athena community.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ~~Tito~~:
I feel like we are all just piling our money and not going to the best devs here and then telling them to help us??? Come on guys Dutty could probably do it. I know a Dev here in my city but I doubt he would want to help. . . What are we gonna do. I don't want to wait I want to make this happen now!! I dont want to sit here and wait for the magical person to do this. I want a real person and I think we should make a deadline like by may or something. This phone ahas been out for over a year now and we barley start now?? We barley start planning to get people?? We should have a game plan by 2 weeks so we can get this thing on the road and make HTC shudder because the customers are fighting back and finding their own solutions. We need to find people with connections and tell them to make a big rukus down at the CEO's water cooler. . .

I know people have tried and I appreciate it but we need a way more organized way of doing this. Dev teams like the iphone(I had it but went to this for more functionality).

I hope this will at least get something started. . .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] toyfreak:
I think that's the point of this thread ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ~~Tito~~:
But we arent contacting anyone. The HTC Devs are out devving in their office. If we had a number to call the DEV's dept we could try to convince one or at least 2 to work on it. I am 14 and I can create a scene with a company and if a company gets a bad rep because they where dicks to a KID then they will work on it immediately we need a plan! Come on guys we need to think of something :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brayndeded:
tito, creating a scene wont work with htc, dont matter if you are 14 or 84. they didnt care when they released the bricks, they dont care today and they wont care next month. we here are pretty much through with htc. they already put us in enough of a fix, im not going to trust them to release a fix to fix the fix they put us in. i hope some other person or company comes in to help us and really puts htc to shame.

therefore i will throw in $20, only if it doesnt go to htc. its not much, cuz after the 6800 and a blackberry for my wife, theres not alot of money left over.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
Engadget Article

I tipped the guys at Engadget and they picked up the story!!!!! :D

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/htc-kaiser-fans-cough-up-over-5-000-for-homebrew-video-drivers/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] victorcho:
My share of the Bounty

Count me in for USD20
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ManTheDan:
I work at Compusa as a Tech...Enough said... And i Hate Video Lag:mad:....Im in for $20 USD!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] captspaulding1000:
i will throw in $20 USD. it would be so great if this got solved here. a forum of enthusiasts solves what a large company was unwilling to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dzap:
curious...I got here from engadget :D but, I remember the HTC settlement website and it mentioned the HTC Vogue (akak Sprint Touch) is also affected by this? I'm not exactly sure how but if this driver update will also help my HTC Vogue, then I'm in for $20USD. If not, then I'll have to retract my offer, sorry if I'm being a complete noob about it..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikelynch:
Put me down for $20 - the laggy graphics on my Tilt are really testing my patience with HTC.

Any chance we could stretch our dollars by outsourcing this directly to an outift in India rather than waiting for a kind volunteer to step up from the XDA community?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] almash:
kaiser

the wizard plays better video! put me in for $20 USD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] coincoinlapin:
count me in for 20€.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
I'm quite in debts now, but will be glad to give 10€ to anyone giving OpenGL ES and D3DM drivers to my Kaiser :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Lol, well then lets hope nobody beats me to the punch :) (as I'm unable to do anything now, and after coming friday I will be out of the running until the first wednesday of januari)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] puerrican85:
Count me in as well for $25.00
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moosic:
In

I'm in for $50.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Vaxon:
10$ from me if it will be solved till end of the year (-:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
Yaay I get a good reason for making a first post! :)

I have been reading EVERY day (and 4 days a week it is HOURS at a time) since I joined and have been dying to post something cause I wont ask any questions until I KNOW what I am talking about!!!!

I have an HTC TyTN II

Count me in for $25 :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
I also was thinking that I would be willing to send an admin/mod (or or party selected by them) to hold onto my pledge up front.

As stated by someone early on, the actual payoff could be less than the pledge so I am willing to fork up the cash upfront if the admins/mods think that is appropriate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dan13l:
If this works and actually has as much of an impact as people believe, I'll donate. Say, $20.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
I'm no admin, and they might have a different opinion - but I don't think that is necessary. I think everyone here is pretty up front and honest and that's one of the things that makes this place so great.

Anyone who pledges and doesn't come through can be banned for all I care. There is a record on the first post of everyone who agreed to pay up, so the record is clear - they can't go back and change their posts.

And if nobody comes up with a solution, or HTC/AT&T/MS/QUALCOMM/Enron come out with a solution first then we have to deal with the whole problem of giving people's money back.

So - I said it before and I'll say it again - don't offer money if you're not truly willing to give it. If you can't afford $50, pledge $10, if you can't afford $10 then that's fine, pledge a couple bucks or don't pledge anything at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] forcedalias:
We really shouldn't have to pay for something we've already paid hundreds of dollars for.

If anything, we should start a fund for hitting HTC with a lawsuit!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
(Temporarily) stickied the thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Axman:
I'm in for $25!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eska007:
count me in

As I already stated in the other thread I too will donate. Count me in for 20 .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] itje:
All in all I agree that HTC (in addition you can add Microsoft and w/e company you want, but this is about HTC, so I will stick to that) has a big empty spot on their glossy fancy facade (fasade or how its spelled :) ) and that spot is called service/customer support. and that spot is quite large.

But if it was not for HTC, where would we be today? still using nokia, SE, samsung w/e? They have many many issues with their phones too, atleast that is my experience. I have used the "regualar" phones (mostly Ericsson, then Sony Ericsson, and some Nokias, in.ex n95 was my last) and they were cool enough...untill I discovered windows devices, and now I only consider "regular" phones as, well, regualar phones, boring.

A friend of mine showed me hes latest SE, and he was so proud of the stuff it could do...I didnt know what to say, all he could do I could do, and then some. (and I know that if HTC could cough up better support...need I say more?)

I dont belive in petitions, I really dont think they care (HTC) they know that we buy the devices anyway. Allthough some souls do take the step and say if HTC dont come up with better support, I will thrash it and never buy their devices anymore and actually mean it too. But as a multimillion company as HTC is, they really dont care if some ppl stop buying, cause they know that when they lose 3-4, the next day they have 100's of new customers buying. And HTC is growing bigger and bigger everyday, making big deals with in.ex SE, witch again will produce ****loads of cash. And in the end, what is the fuel of any company in the end? cash, and on top of that, more cash.

I love my kaiser, its the best device I ever had. It has a "few" (depends on view of owner) quirks, but in general, I love it, and its a keeper for me.

And what thrills me the most with my HTC, is that we have XDA-developers, and many many ppl working to make it better, and for free. Many will say its sad that we have to fix things ourselfs, but I see it diffrently. Its good that the device has its faults, I belive (and know) that the faults in the devices, is the reason we have xda-dev. and the reason we have such a great community of ppl that has a desire to do what they do here.

If my device didnt need to be "fixed" I would have no need to find xda-developers in the first place, and then I would not get to know many friends I now have through this forum.

So thx to HTC for their lack of support, without your faults, I would not have met many new friends.

but just so I dont drift to much away from what this threads creator suggest. I would also contribute a few bux if a sollution was provided that is stable and can show a real increase on the performance of my device. The amount I would give, depends on how good the sollution was.

But in general, I seldom support the "paying" for stuff on this forum.

:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scwilson8382:
$20 to the person who can make this happen!!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nick Collision:
I'm in for $25
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tavocr:
I'm in 2

$20 -> $30 based on how good it came out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hotplainrice:
I'll put in 10, payed thru paypal.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nicholasendean:
$70

LOOKS PRETTIER IN BIG RED LETTERS.

why?.....as I am fed up with the ever growing feeling of being MUGGED and ripped off having gone into this (becoming a new KAISER owner) who simply trusted HTC with the obvious fact that number two in theory SHOULD be better then number one.

I know that where life is concerned things don't always follow in suit. Films for instance! Jaws was better than Jaws 2...blah blah

I MISS QUALITY VIDEO PLAYBACK AND A WORKING AND ACCEPTABLE CAMERA...BOO HOO
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rmyc:
why not start a boycot of HTC products.. that would be 10x more effective
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
Good idea, though those guys in Bangalore need to start with a developer kit also, and that one is missing now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Parm:
Hi all,

I've published an article on this over at HEXUS.net: http://lifestyle.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=11443

Thought it might help spread the word and attract further attention to your endeavour.

Wishing you all the best in finding the drivers,

Parm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mishimatsu:
Donation for updated Kaiser (HTC 8925) video drivers

I am willing to donate $10 (USD) towards the cause. Good hunting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Johnston411:
Ratio?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=342500

In the above thread 4210 people have signed the petition and in this thread there is only a possible $5199.51 for a bounty at the time i post this.

Thats not much more than a dollar per person so seeing that most of the people pledging here are pledging over $10 around 90% of the petition signers must not be pledging.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Just an observation.

(if my maths is a little out i apologize profusely)

Oh and to save you looking i haven't pledged. I'll donate when the time is right in a private manner.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] boart:
i would like to pay money, but i bought the orbit 2 and it took ALL my money. Im studying in germany and have to pay next month nearly 750€ to the university and each month round about 300 € for living and gasoil... sorry.. maybe ill be able to pay money later next months, but not now :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pdevenraj:
I commit $10 for ATT Tilt 2D & 3D drivers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nerdstrap:
If the Mogul and Touch get included, I'm in for $20.00
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petsampress:
ive spoken with my girlfriend, shes working in the pr business and agreed to write a article about this lag. but she needs our help. we have to collect all the technical stuff which is going wrong here and it needs to be coherent to her. so now its your turn! we will take the best one. she also will send the article to all known pr portals to get this thing big. we need publicity!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] loztboy:
I am willing to pony up $20 for some good working drivers and it looks like we just hit the

front page of engadget.com with this donation fund.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Just send her to the HTCClassAction site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petsampress:
she needs somebody to represent. could that be this forum? or the htcclassaction.org ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
Thanks Parm!

Thank you Parm, I took the liberty of submitting it to digg with the link provided in your website. I hope we make some real noise with your publication =).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
Everybody, Please DIGG!

Please digg the following article so it goes up on frontpage:

http://digg.com/gadgets/HTC_TYTN_II_users_offering_5K_bounty_for_video_drivers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jimmyb1651:
I pledge $30

Hell if Opera's charging $30 for a web browser why not so I can play FPSEce on the bad boy!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mattpark:
I am happy to pledge an additional £25 GBP to this.

Cheers,

Matt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sprice82:
Hell I pledge .49 cents to make it 5,200, I will pledge more once I buy a kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
Keep 'em comming...

Updated total as of right now:

US$5765.78
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fincan:
$30 from me :o)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rossel21:
put me down for $20.

Thanks