yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
They know what they are doing, they know that people are becoming more prone to using data more than actual sms and calls
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
seem to be a good plan, but you have no idea! , arround 50% of users will drop it from march 31st .. lol:laugh:

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vodafone, is not much of a threat to airtel
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] vsriram92:
Since call is free, the amount of people who drops from it will be around 20% and not 50%
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Why would they drop ? Doesn't seem to be that bad of a deal honestly, are they going to charge too much for it ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
jio attracted more ppl beacuse of the free data service.. so naturally, when they have to pay for data, why cant they choose any other networks with better network coverage??

tho 70% would not drop because of the free talktime..

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lets say around 30%??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] vsriram92:
They are going to charge the usual amount which every operators over here charges.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I think they will keep using jio, I don't think they will just drop it because of this, they know that the service will not be free forever, plus it will charge them the same as other operators + free calls and sms, so why bother ? If this had been in my country,it would be so successful there won't be any other operator left in the competition lol
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
things are not as easy as you are thinking...

for free calls, (to get best quality), one must have volte,

if not, we have to use an app provided by the operator , sluggish app with crapy design, eating the battery and ram, and it needs us to saty online (not sure , i never used the app, but my friend said it), and to stay online, we have to pay , after march 31.. thats how the things are planned... pay for data and get talktime... or else get volte or gtfo... thats it..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I don't understand the part about "for free calls you must have volte" calls are not related to Internet AFAIK or it doesn't work like that in your country ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] aditya_korn:
Not really.. 85% of the users are willing to hold onto jio. Post March.

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To have free calls we need to just have a data plan even though data isn't consumed in the process of making a call.. it's more of a validity to use their services.. so yeah in simple terms they are bundling data along with calls.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
Deleted.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
That's only reasonable in my opinion, it's not like they are giving the free calls without people having to pay the data plan, that's the actual offer, I don't about people out there but this for me sounds like a pretty sweet deal ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] vsriram92:
Its a sweet deal if they charge the same for data. As they are not going to charge for Voice Calls.

Again instead of whatsapp , Hike messenger ., Calls and SMS might become popular way of communication.

All my friends including me are using the 4G Video Call to contact within us. The app they provided is not interesting. But it does the job it is intended for.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Well you said they are going to charge the same amount other operators do, so I don't know why would anybody choose another operator over jio
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] vsriram92:
The reason for that some bunch of people will be "Quality". JIO is emerging network. The infrastructure which they have is less compared to the existing market leaders. So quality is less than the market leaders.

For example: During the Vardah Cyclone over here in Chennai, All network were working for 2 days without power as there were entire power shut down throughout the city. But JIO network slowly gone down to NIL within 4-5 hrs.

I feel this is the difference to switch over from JIO.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Ah I understand, yeah service reliability is important and could make or break a company, if they take one wrong step it will crush their credibility and they will lose the majority of their customers, but maybe with free lte plan they introduced so far, they will bring back more customers, who knows really ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] vsriram92:
It takes more time to get high quality. So the only thing which they have in hand is FREE...
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
for best quality calls, volte is a must, in the app they provide, not at all a decent voice call and also pathetic service and connection times..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Sounds like they have a lot to do before they become reliable.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yes, a lot.. mainly, improve their dialer app
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I agree on that, operators tend to neglect their apps
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
as always..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
What did I missed?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Not much lol ? just talking about operators and such, glad to see you are taking a break ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Remember ! if I am silent , something big will happen.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Haha eager to see what's in store ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Wait for am hour more
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] azesqt:
what is the best andro7 rom for honor 5x right now ?

pls tell the rom version
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
you serious??:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
This sounds promising, I'm keeping my eye on the forum ;)

At this point it is up to you to decide, there are different kinds of roms in the development section and they are all pretty much stable, just take the one that suits you.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] shravan5x:
Jio 4g problem

Hi guys,

I have a problem with Jio 4g. The data connection resets for every minute or two and I am not able to download or even make calls through the 4g jio voice app. I am using RR nougat rom. Any suggestions pls?? I clean flashed from b340 stock rom. I searched all forums Lineage, RR but found no solutions.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I don't know about the data reseting maybe someone could help but using jio app is for volte I think ? If that's it then you can't use volte for the moment because there are no custom roms that support it
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] shravan5x:
Jio 4gvoice app uses mobile data to make calls. It doesn't need volte support. That app was released primarily to make voice calls for non-Volte phones. My problem is, when I make a call through that app, after the first ring the data gets reset. It also occurs for other apps.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Ah my bad I thought it was only used for volte calls, try making logs and posting them on the thread of rom you are on
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Posted CrDroid.. Everything is working.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Fantastic this rom is cool, if I get my phone it will be one of the roms on my list, cosmic is gonna be the first :p
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Wyratt:
Personally I'm interested to see where development for this phone goes now that CM is dead. I hope LineageOS keeps it alive.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Well, Los seems to be picking it up quite well, the fact that no radical changes took place sure helped it stabilize as the new cm, I say that there's no need to worry and soon it'll be like nothing ever happened.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
we should be giving a bigggg shout out to baddaemon and crpalmer for their contribution, without them, i cannot even imagin my phone..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Of course brother, we can't ignore what they did and keep doing, I remember since the first bring up thread they created, they've really come a long way, I hope they keep maintaining this device for a long time.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yep, i would even expect android o from them, (even if it seems greedy enough, lol:laugh:)
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Lol you just stated what was on my mind, I was in fact going to speak of O but I said to myself "wo slow down let's enjoy what we have for now and wait for that one later" :p

Ps: speaking of lineage,did you notice they gave cm a new name but they didn't bother reseting the version number lol it's still 14.1 hah
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
no , they havent changed a lot from cm14.1, only the setup wizard and cyanogen icon.. thats all.. but i was expecting a major redesign..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Even the branch name
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yeah, forgot that..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Even many more in the cm vendor tree [emoji14]
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
lol, thats true.. he was asking about theme and look ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Alright .. Then everything is same except name !! ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Lol no bro I wasn't asking about the look of it, I know that it remained the same since I have a phone that's on cm14.1 and can see that they didn't change a thing, I was merely stating that they changed the name but they kept the "14.1" ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
well, they have to remind other people that its the successor.. so they have got the only way...(may be), thats 14.1 , where exactly cm left it..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah, probably so they don't get confused, as we see a scientific study states that 99% of xda users can't use Google.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
lol.. they cant even use xda search..??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Sh*t stop you'll confuse them more ? just say "it's that yellow site where you can ask about everything except development" ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
lmao ?? anything except development ?? thats hilarious bro??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Yes .. Even u guys are talking everything except development lol

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You talking of more crap than what required . much spam posts !!
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Hahaha well I'm just stating the reality, whenever a new rom gets created, there's a pattern.

1.thanks and excitement comments.

2.missing features that will never be implemented.

3.other people telling other people to f**k off if they don't like the rom.

4.the heroes and shining Knights that come to clean the thread (even knowing they will make it dirtier.

5.maybe just maybe one guy states something about development, and believe me if you ever see this one just take a screenshot because it's rare.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Lol true but at least we are doing it here while discussing other matters related to Android and not spamming your threads ;)
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Are u in telegram group for 5x ? All missing features on cosmic os is being added day by day . the omni switch , recent menu features .even more and more .. This will happen sooner or later but will.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I'm not talking about roms that are still adding features, I'm talking about about the roms that are well known and that are not going to add any feature, like cm was or stock aosp roms and others I might forget, don't tell me you never encountered this situation, it's all over the place, plus I'm criticizing the end user not devs, because I do realize the much efforts you put into this and I will always respect that, like I said if I get my hands on the phone, cosmic will be the first on my list ;)
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
So u still din't own a 5x ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Some complications that are getting in my way unfortunately...
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Which device u own currently!
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Currently im using a clone of Micromax a116, it's so painful to see it every morning ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
you gotta be kidding me... bingo

remember, ionce told you about a mediatek ****, wuth a decent development? mine is an a116i
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Haha that's the one, I'm stuck on kitkat with it bro, awful ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
im even worse, im stuck on jellybean.. kitkat causes a camera bug in a116i... ok, lets leave.. we know that mediatek is a ****
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Kitkat below is a thing from the past.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah it's far from being developer friendly

It's worse, it's like extinction.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Still KitKat had got as many ROMs during those days on my Android One . Don't know about other Mtk **** . but my mTk 6573 got a lot of development from most of the dev hands
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
The sad thing is that some mtk devices have great development and others are the extreme opposite
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
It depends on the numbers 8f d3vs holding that d3vic3.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah but mainly it's harder than snapdragon devices, for mtk without kernel sources it's hell, that's why I decided I will never buy a phone which doesnt have snapdragon even if it was amazing.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
They can be forced to release the source though.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah every oem is supposed to release the sources for a phone, it's under the GPL licensing rules if I'm not mistaken, I was reading an article a while ago and I thought why isn't this a big deal, like so many times oem fail to release sources but nobody protests or make something about it, I find this strange since the dev community is so big.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
whatever happens, mediatek is not gonna give out the sources.. sadist fellows
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
I wish that it will change in the future.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
That's sad really
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Imagine how that will change things, you'll be able to purchase whatever phone you like because you know development for it will be possible.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
i think, they are not really thinking this way.. (they are a bit acting like apple.. if it ain't broke, don't fix it) lol:laugh:
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
They can't apply this rule bro, because this system indeed is broken, but if things were ideal it would mean bad news for them, people will take so long to replace their phones, and their profits would go down a cliff.

take for example the Honor 5X, a pretty good phone with snapdragon soc, fingerprint and all that for a small price, this phone was a marketing stunt for honor and Huawei, and I'm pretty sure they will not repeat it, I don't think they will release another device with snapdragon anytime soon, if it weren't for our devs this device would have been abandoned since months already.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Sadly that seems like it.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
they have used the poppularity from honor 5x and now they are on their on kirin.. and gods help those who buy phones with kirin.. dont know wether theyd release sources..

even tho knowing that our device is capable of running nougat, they just abandoned us just because they want to support their own chip by saying a silly reason that google doesnt want to provide update for 5x.. thats completely mad
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
It all goes down to money, no-one should forget this, they will do whatever suits THEM not the customer
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
And that's what's wrong with them.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Unfortunately things will always be like this.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
hey, [MENTION=6355400]gopinaidu77[/MENTION] bro, check this out ..

i was playing with framework-res of lineage os.. and found this.. take a look at the highlighted area.. maybe, this is the reason??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
In the initial days while I am playing with those things for volte , I enabled all of those . everything or everyone of my commits works flawlessly. Only thing is ROM failed to start modem in b360 roms , so the device continuously restarts on the boot animation.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
so if we managed to get roms to boot on b360, then we will have volte??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Pretty sure
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
have anyone managed to know why custom roms are not booting on b360??
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
You should know this one ..

If u could get me the logcat while its boots up at boot animation .. I can prettysure bringup volte for all b360+ firmwares .

One biggest thing no one is noticing ,we may get emui5.0 sooner or later . at least we will get incremental updates which includes emui 5.0 feature's .

If u wants to enjoy those features or at least a nougat official ROM which include volte , u have to be on that offical one. If not , u will again have to revert back on b340 or lesser firmwares based on marshmallow .

Do u think this is a good news for all custom ROM lovers ?

Of course it doesn't (in my view).
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
for me tho , its a ****ing bad news.. but i don't know how to take logs while the phone is boot looping.. if you tell me, i would definitely provide my best..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
Google is our bestfrn
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Hey Gopi, I wanted to ask you, how come that the aosp roms share the same sources with lineage, is it like a hybrid or what ? What did you have to change to make it aosp ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
tomorrow bro..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] gopinaidu77:
It's a long explanation. You can Google it.

I'll be waiting.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
i think, they have mergerd some features (libraries or something, idk) into the actual aosp roms,,

and i think, only the slim 7 is the pure aosp now..??

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btw, its very long that ii used ground zero roms.. one of my favourites..

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searched through the google.. i found nothing regarding "taking logcat in bootloops.."

adb doesnt respond while in bootamination..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah

Thanks I'll look for more information about this.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
See if this can help you

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/151449/get-logs-before-logcat-has-started-in-a-bootloop

This might be interesting too

http://androidforums.com/threads/logcat-of-bootloop.926896/
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
nope, its based on the kernel, and kernel varies wih the device..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
But it's not based on specific kernel, it states that you could do it, not that you could do it with a certain kernel.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
but I'm gonna need a specific code for the kernel, and i don't know how to obtain it..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Alright, I only saw that you have to redirect the kernel log, so I thought it could be a little simple, I hope you'll figure it out.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
im still trying to do something.. thanks for the help bro.. i appreciate it..:good:
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
No need to thank brother, anything for the community ;)
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yeah , trying hard.. just for volte..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Have you found anything useful ?
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
not yet.. and in bootloop, adb doesnt work.. an i think thats a dead end:(
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Too bad, it looks like it can't really be done, I was thinking yesterday that if it was possible Gopi would've have already done it, but maybe he will succeed in bringing Volte, you won't be able to update to the latest version of emui for this device, but it's a price to pay.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
looks like its not at all possible until we can boot roms on latest version of emui.. which is not likely to happen anytime soon..:(
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Man I don't know what did the OEM do with those updates, it's almost as if they did something to make it bootloop if you tried to go to custom Roms,other devices implemented volte without a hassle, I wonder what's causing this.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
something which is not letting custom roms to boot.. mostly the volte patch..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
Yeah but it makes you think that this was almost intentional, I've never read anywhere else that Volte updates interfered with booting custom roms
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yes, completely strange..
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
You know I was hanging around some forums, I noticed some people talking about volte updates of stock rom causing them problems with custom roms, I wonder why Volte does that.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
the first possitive vibe on nougat that i ever found since now

okay, im gonna stay on honor 5x a little more time

thank you guys....

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but i havent found it.. :( mind sharing the link mate??

ps: found it
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I think it's one of those mokee builds that are being built.
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
but, they are talking about cm14 builds
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] Zakaria.R:
I don't know man but they share the same sources anyway
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
yeah same sources,

but no one knows if mokee is booting, but here, theres a confirmation that cm14.1 boots.. i just wanted a link for that
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
Anyone interested in crpalmer's unofficial CM14.1 please search for the download link since [MENTION=3857343]crpalmer[/MENTION] didn't release the link yet.

I flashed (clean flash) crpalmer's CM14.1 Dec. 18 build together with OpenGapps nano package (Dec. 19 build).

No reboot unless I open Gallery app.

I also did dirty flash with Dec. 19 build of CM14.1.

FPS doesn't work now but DT2W works perfectly!

BTW, xda thinks it's Motorola Defy:confused:
[Honor 5X Guides, News, & Discussion] thilak devraj:
http://download.crpalmer.org/nightlies/kiwi-cm-14.1/

is this? what you guys are talking about?? dec 19 is the latest nightly..