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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] flxkid:
You can put me down for $25...I just hope it doesn't take so long that I forget about it...here's hoping...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
OK guys, frontpaged at PPCMag.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kareeem:
This is definitely great news! Thanks to all for the support! Just a quick question, how long will this approximately take? Just wondering.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Hard to say. I for one am waiting for a few files, and I have no idea when I will get them. Without them, I cannot finish it. But who knows now with this thread? It's definitely making it into a race, and I don't know if I'm too happy about it. I think I was the only person really working on it and already devoted a lot of time this. This thread will no doubt attract attention from cash seeking hackers though, and my vacation starts in a few days (cannot work on it then) so ... guess it's pretty much the end for me unless I get those files by tomorrow. (Not to mention that the others can build on the work and research that has now already been done and posted)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] notten:
Count me in

I will paypal $30 for the man (or woman) who gets us working 3D drivers... Count me in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sancho1234:
Sancho: 20 USD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
I know that from some perspective it might look like a race. But I honestly think that no one else will look into the matter as deeply as you do. I see this thread only as "Offer money to chainfire for his time and hard work". Please don't give up. I still really hope you will be able to come up with something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fisha21:
I agree with omikr0n's post. As you say, you have been working on it for a long time already, and have more understanding than someone just starting now. Besides, no-one on this forum knows what you've been doing between all those hard resets recently! Please also bear in mind that there are those of us who would like to show appreciation for the amount of time you have put in, rather than just donate to the person who gives the final solution. If that isn't you, I for one will be splitting my donation, with a significant proportion of it heading your way.

Hope you have a good holiday - a well deserved break!!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
I forgot to mention it in my previous post, but me too. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] freddiemac1:
Count me in for $50 if a solution is found.

I have a strange feeling this is not going to happen quickly, so Chainfire...this work may still be around when you get back from vacation.

I know that money is a great incentive..but I do hope that everyone will share what they learn so that folks can collaborate on solutions. My guess is that most folks would be happy to have the "bounty" shared in a proportional way for all those who work on this. At least, I would be.

While HTC should be tackling this, if someone can figure out how to "speed" things up, I - for one - will be very grateful and am willing to put my financial resources up because I don't have the technical prowess to solve this!

Thanks to Chainfire and everyone who is working on this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrmega:
I just sent a private donation to chainfire to show support for what he has done to this point and to encourage him to continue his work, because I am sure most of us will agree that he is our best hope in this situation. Perhaps some of you guys who can afford it can do the same aside from the pledge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DSmithZ28:
Hi guys, I can go 10. And I can also go one better, I can put it on the front page of TiltSite.com

This is the little brother Site to Aximsite and Mobilitysite devoted to the (do I really need to say it?) Tilt Chris Leckness and I started a few months ago. That should help out some.

Here is the post: http://tiltsite.com/2007/12/d3d-driver-bounty-on-xda-developers/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
Several people in this thread including you and front poster of this thread already made the mistake.

Please note that D3DM (and OpenGL ES) drivers that we are trying to get have nothing to do with video playback and/or camera performance. They are only related to hardware accelerated 3D graphics.

Video and camera problems are other (although somehow related) issues.

I just had to mention it because it looks weird if the headline reads "D3D Driver Bounty" and the first sentence is "Tired of poor video playback?".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iwasfresh:
heck ill throw in 10. .....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
Is that so?? It was my understanding that proper video drivers would help for anything involving drawing to the screen.

Are you saying that D3D is just a subset of the whole driver? Is it too specific to say D3D when what we're looking for is a broader solution? Or am I way off here...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Don-Carlo:
$100 if it's gonna happen in February

$50 if it's gonna happen in March

$25 if it's gonna happen in April

$10 if it's gonna happen in May til HTCs official release

I hope soon!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] storino03:
February is over with. Besides, it's not going to have video acceleration throughout the entire device. Probably just with a specific video player and that's it.

--James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kristus:
Sign me up for 20 Euro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jmknotreel:
Having just picked up a Kaiser and being completely thrilled with its functionality but sadly, disappointed with the horrendous camera lag and the overall video performance both 2d and 3d I'll throw $50.00USD on the bounty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iluvspd:
iluvspd = $20
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
That statement is outdated. I seem to remember it from about a month or two ago - ignoring the most recent developments on the issue.

Also, the person who wrote the article shows a misunderstanding of the issue on a very basic level. The problem is not with video playback, it is with VIDEO. As in, ANYTHING that is written to the screen. Video playback is a part of that but so is device performance in general.

But here I am posting random crap in a thread that is supposed to be just about people donating money to the cause...

So I digress.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] luismix:
VIDEO DRIVER WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED BY HTC

They say that needs too much time to do this, that´s the main reason:

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=fix-htc-to-optimize-video-issues-with-a-software-fix-only
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
Actually they said they will most likely develop drivers that utilize the imageon hardware for future devices. They never said "never."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jasperrr:
They'd say that they aren't going to develop them for the current devices, so he's right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] draxredd:
\o/

http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=commit;h=e8fd56a303bf5e8f84af80999fa398eb8cc1d670
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Liquidfire:
call me crazy, I dont know exactly how licensing works.

Couldn't this money that is raised go towards purchasing the license for the qualcomm chip and then have the people here modify it towards the respective phones?

Will they only sell it to someone like at&t?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] M@ster:
Then we will take them from the future model and cook'em with our ROM :)

Actually, like they said, they don't have time for developing drivers, but have time for future models and they think we will take a bite. But not anymore...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Don-Carlo:
So whats the deal now?

Can we hope to get the drivers for the HTC TyTN II? Or is it a fact that there wont be any drivers for th TyTN II?

And is it even possible for someone outside HTC, Qualcomm and ATI to develope drivers for us?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
This has been asked & answered many times before... but it´s hard to keep up with such a large community when you´re new. HTC CEO Peter Chou stated that a fix is on the way, and according to engadget this could be coming sometime in March. Other people have volunteered to work in the development of the drivers, one experienced developer actually received a *free* working device (courtesy of a fellow xda-dev user). So there is no way to know which way the wind blows. Just be patient and keep pushing =)

lol, I don't think I fully get it, and don´t want to get my hopes that high :p. Getting Android on the Tilt would be cool to toy with =) - Saved for another topic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RobbinM:
If that would be possible, that would be great, but let's try this the other way first. HTC is responsible for not giving us what we are paying for. I have seen the 'android' video. The graphics are great! But only if HTC would add some service for their customers, so that we could enjoy the full capabilities of the phone...

Some years back in time, a company would be emberrassed if it's customers were not happy with their product, they would seek as fast as possible for a good solution. Where has that time gone? We pay too much for what w'ere getting and the company leaves us in shortage of a driver, ending making our own one.... It's ridiculous.

There

should

be a class action. Waiting until march is not the solution. HTC will not buy us drivers! We will end up with, maybe, a faster device when it comes to office applications and stuff, but when it comes to video... the world collapses.

HTC: THIS IS NOT HOW TO TREAT LOYAL CUSTOMERS!!!

They should make this a big deal, and use the media.

Media is such a good way to make this thing happen... Here in Holland we have several TV-Programms made to find solutions for problems like these, HTC doesn't want us to scare other people and end up selling less devices. So that is exactly what we should be doing!

If somebody smart enough finds a solution, I would be happy to pay €20,-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nekrofio:
BTW I don't know about false advertising, but I think that we can sure have some case if we just show the various emails that support personnel says that the Imageon hardware isn't there! They lie their customers. :mad:

P.S. If it is 100% sure the hardware is in there of course.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Is it possible to trade mark the possible driver if it's ever made? Ya know, to help insure that HTC does repackage it a offer it to others. I would think that if someone here takes their time to correct one of their wrongs, we should allow them to profit from it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dperren:
I'm not convinced by the dicussions of backporting here - surely if HTC develop a driver which can be easily backported to our devices, then that means that their statements about driver development being time-consuming and expensive are untrue - since they'd be doing it anyway? Clearly, HTC aren't above lying to their customers, but I don't think securing your hopes on being able to backport drivers is a good idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moritz.narnhammer:
I pledge 30 Dollars, but the Drivers should also be usable on my XDA Star.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thunda_chunky:
im on an 8525 but if these guys can fix the issue (ive seen it first hand on my buddy's tilt. my 8525 is way faster at times) ill kick out 15 bucks just for giveing me a reason to buy 1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] goorht:
I just found an interesting stuff. The main webpage concerning MSM7K family CPU on qualcomm's website had been removed apparently due to a lawsuit.

http://www.qualcomm.com/about/qct_redirect.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TheNecroscope:
Happy to pledge £20 and happy to help if I can!:o in some way
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moritz.narnhammer:
They have been infringing Broadcom patents http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5657317.PN.&OS=PN/5657317&RS=PN/5657317,

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5657317.PN.&OS=PN/5657317&RS=PN/5657317,

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6389010.PN.&OS=PN/6389010&RS=PN/6389010.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brayndeded:
i hate to see all you people still waiting on something that will never be done by htc. they dont care,neither does quallcom or ati. what you ought to do is have everyone box up their htc piece of crap in a giant mega box, and fly it over the htc headquarters and dump it on the building....then go out and buy a blackberry....because they WORK!! and everything on it is fast,easy and simple to navigate.

you all have more patience then i did. i think something is seriously wrong with a phone that takes 4 seconds to switch from regular to landscape mode, and 4 or 5 seconds to take a picture and the bare minimum settings!! how worthless is that?

sorry, but if someone somewhere was going to do something somehow...they would have done it by now.

in my book...htc used to stand for "Hey...Thats Cool"...then after 2 weeks and 2 different 6800's, i changed that to "Hey...Total Crap".

i could now change that to "Hate The Crap" or "Had To Change"(to blackberry)

or "How To Cheat" (the buyers)

with all this talk on all these websites, by this time next year, htc will be the HD-DVD of the cell phone world.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VDubGli:
lololololololol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
Whats the story with HD DVD?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nikiiv:
Count me in for $50
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] varma_in_ap:
hi ,

count me for Singapore Dollar $20. Thats around $14.35
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
How could someone think a Blackberry would feed the hunger that is in a geeks heart?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nosmohtac:
HD DVD is dead. Toshiba has dropped out of the competition with Blu-Ray.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alexsandros:
i wonder what our kaiser can do with a new video driver.. maybe a UI like Nvidia's which is comin out @ the end of the year.. check it out.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYFXGKUIpE looks amazin..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fuzzydeer:
Hey I don't have the kaiser but If any drivers get made or it and they get successful ported to the htc vogue I will pay AT LEAST 10 dollars to the people who port the device and an additional 10 to the people who get the drivers running smoothly on the htc vogue. My canadian money will earn you a hair more than us dollars, but its pretty much on par. I would like to give more and I likely will but as of now I have no steady income and I can't promise very much. If I have extra money I WILL give more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kshya:
i'm pledging $10...

its not much but where i'm from your US$ is kinda trouncing the local currency... haha....

I really hope you guys get this driver out before HTC.... it'll show them that they better not be complacent just cause they think they are leading the PDA market...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jimmyy:
New Update

We've Rounded up US$7,808.55 from

298 Users

.

I still believe we can achieve something if we keep moving forward =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] patr!k:
count with me, 10$! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] draxredd:
It does seem, from Chainfire last reports, that in order to enable d3d acceleration, the whole graphic layer needs to be modified (2d included). So the answer is most definitely "Maybe".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
First of all. Original intention of the thread regarding D3DM and OpenGL ES drivers started by me was to find a solution for hardware accelerated 3D graphics - D3DM and/or OpenGL ES.

What you refer to as video drivers are probably a superset of the D3DM and OpenGL ES drivers.

As already pointed out by draxredd, it seems that whole graphical controller (a whole bunch of drivers) have to be replaced in order for 3D hardware accelerated graphics to work. So if Chainfire succeeds it will/might affect video or camera performance as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rufh:
This week-end, i was in a very good concert. The singer was very beautifull and i want a picture of her. So i take my TYTN 2 and try to take a shoot but i cannot it is blur because lack of vidéo drivers.

I will paid with pleasure 50€ if someone can definitively fix this problem.

Thanks a lot and continu good work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] benchMarc:
Please tell me, what's the effect of lacking D3D drivers on the camera?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
None. :) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DSmithZ28:
Okay, so could we get a proper "press" Release? Often times, right or wrong, the developers here forget that there are a lot of "non" developers here. I'll make a correction to my news post if we could get some clearer description of what will or won't be accomplished.

This is very confusing statement in the original post:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
"Our Kaisers currently lack drivers for hardware accellerated display functionality. A full set of these drivers would significantly speed up ALL drawing operations, including the user interfaces of normal applications, video playback, games and 3D rendering."

"There are different parts to these drivers, namely for 2D (user interfaces, video, images) and 3D graphics (games). It is not yet sure even IF these drivers will be available soon, and if they are, which parts will be accellerated."

"The plan, ofcourse, is to provide a full set. Though this will most likely not include a speed up for the camera."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DSmithZ28:
So which again adds to my confusion on how my news article is wrong:

http://tiltsite.com/2007/12/d3d-driver-bounty-on-xda-developers/

Chainfire, can I quote you on this. (this sounded way to nerdie than I intended), but I don't want to mislead anyone either on what they are pldging their money for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
You can quote me all you want :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sordid:
i'll give 10€ for that :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
I'm good for $10 US.

Just PM me if something happens and I don't catch the thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stozmon:
I'm in for $20 as well. Thanks for all of the hard work Chainfire.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jakirkla:
Count me in for $15.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
Count me in...

I'm in for $20.00...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] erics516:
I'm up for a bit

Sign me up for $20.

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DSmithZ28:
Another problem with this pledge drive is that it keeps going until a viable driver is released right? IF I am a developer, I would hold on to my driver as the pedges keep coming in! 2009 HTC Driver released, pledge amount in excess of 10,000 dollars! LOL
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
Then you would get no money because some other developer would do it first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herndonken:
Count me in for $20 US.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jatin.ahuja:
Count me in with $10

Just PM me, if I miss out!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
so what if HTC comes through? Do they get the money?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
I don't know about you, but _I_ will never give HTC money again, whatever they try to pull :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
From what we have seen from them thus far, the question was purely hypothetical. ;)

I would love for someone else to offer some competition, but even with the poor video, it's still a feature packed device. I'd give eTen a shot, but I havn't heard good things about their latest and greatest either.

Anyway, I hope you can get this going, but even if it doesn't work out, I sent some coin your way for work on the Tweaks. Thanks for making a difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ktdan1:
I am good for and easy 10spot as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petard:
$10 PayPal from me!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] met3ora:
I don't have any money right now, but I can offer a hug!

And you know what? What the hell. I'll throw in a high-five too :).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marm0lade:
This is what is holding the Kaiser back from becoming the best mobile device I have ever had. I will paypal $10 USD to whoever releases working drivers for the Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gthing:
They get to keep all the money we already gave them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Girvo:
$20USD Paypal to whoever pulls this off. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] existence:
Add me in for $75. HTC sucks. They need to fix the bluetooth issue as well. So shocking that they do not do extensive quality assurance on their devices native hardware and software before release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] maxblaster:
Is it too much to ask

I’m just a little lost will this make this thing they call a camera work better? Video play back is so bad what’s the point, will it fix this? Al in all I love this phone but for $400.00 you would think these most simple of functions would work WELL. I have a $20 camera for the kids that take a better picture than this thing.

Regardless I want to help anyone who’s willing to help me put me down for $200.00 US.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Globalrebel:
I don't have the $$ like ----^ to put down $200, but if someone really can get the video drivers working better . . . I'd be willing to throw them $20. I'm a college student with a part tiem job, but during my downtime I liek to watch videos on my display . . . at least somewhat watch videos . . . :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] davidusr:
I'm in for $15 USD. I too would like to see camera improvement.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DSmithZ28:
WOW, they should name the software after you for that kind of money!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrkoven:
ill pitch in $10 for this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Video playback should be fixed, camera probably not (it might though, not sure about that).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TheFuzz:
Put me down for $50.00 U.S. It is sad when a company does the work on the hardware side, then falls short on the software side crippling our devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KCMatt:
I'll give $20 if it fixes the camera and video playback. $30 if it's also easy to install and doesn't require any hard reset or ROM change.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MinosK:
20E from me !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dazzle999:
im giving 20 euro's
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nojnaworb:
I'll throw in $10. The choppy display is really annoying.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] EeekiE:
Absolute minimum £20 from me, maybe more if they really blow me away :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wing103:
Count me on, I put 30.00USD if it is available.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
I am giving up contacting HTC for this and throw in 20US$ + extra 10US$ if the new driver improves the camera also (which is more tricky to develop)

It would be 30 US$ well spent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fujur:
Count me in

I'd shell out $20 for a decent display driver. Count me in with $20.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] crazyjack:
Count me in

Count me in for $20. Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cruton:
Count me in for $10.

Smaller donations are probably okay too. If everyone who signed the petition ponied up $5 then we'd almost have enough to attract the attention of a professional development firm. Just a thought.