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[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Yep - generally agree with your sentiment regarding the big players and profit obsession (largely driven by shareholder ADHD). I own few gadgets from the majors. I prefer value over fashion; functionality over famous. I reward those who deliver with repeat business and recommendation​s. The old school way of conducting business and building relationships.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I"m Sony fan to....still I am...but just little disappointed fan.I was going to buy Z5 but man his camera is not that good....and the screen...i compare Redmi Note 4X screen with Z5 and they are very similar,maybe Note 4X is better.And camera is also similar.Z5 is 200 euro more expensive...that is price for two Note's 4X.And battery is very bad in Z5.On box this phone is made April 2017....so phones not sitting in some wearehouse and never mind if they are with some error they sold them any way....like LG.I get one year warranty on phone and anything hapens i get new one....no services to tell me how is my fault and to wait for 10 days to fix issues.Maybe u all wright...but well see.Maybe it's opposite...maybe all mayor and big companies get soo money hungry that they making bad phones....just name and marketing pushing then...just look the galaxy S8.When your phone is falling in 80% is going to fall on one of four edges...and S8 on there is most weak.Is S8 better then S7...no...but they say it is and people believe...just like ships:laugh:

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That's​ it bro....you understand me.I have sony phones from legendary Xperia Arc S.I use LG G3... it's also good but they software is crappy and battery is much much worse from any phone i use.I wont do buy Z5 but it's just not that good... it's more going down then up when you compare it with Z2,Z3,Z4...XZ is very good but his price...i can buy 3 Redmi Note 4X for that money.I will test this phone to his limit's and share here my opinion.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
I usually pay less than $200 US for a handset; current gizmo set me back half that (holiday promo). A mobile is not my primary driver but sees regular use throughout the day. My kids go for iPhones at 3-4x the price and replace them every two years. I have used high end devices from all the majors and come away unimpressed. At some point one has to rationalize cost vs performance and recognize the bleeding edge will be mainstream in 12-18 months at 1/3 the price. I compromise nothing but bragging rights to the latest gizmo. Meh.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Quick post to emphasize how important managing screen brightness is to active battery drain and prolonging (cough) SoT.

On many devices brightness level can be set via a numeric scale ranging from 0-255 (some start at 1 or some other minimum value set in the kernel). On my daily driver I typically use ~15% of this range...from 15 to 50.

When set to 20 active drain averages ~9.5% per hour with little variation. Push that to 35 and drain jumps to 11.5%. The difference in panel intensity is hardly perceptible...especially in bright ambient conditions.

Going up to 50 doesn't increase active drain that much...typically around 12%. So the impact is non-linear...pretty much as expected.

In contrast, changing governor profiles from the most conservative to fairly aggressive only yields a 1.5% (average) difference in drain rate for my typical workloads.

It's nearly impossible to set a precise, repeatable brightness level via sliders. I use Edge (Xposed module) to insure levels are where I want them. And profit from highly predictable screen on drain rates.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
[MENTION=382603]cristi[/MENTION]xperia i just notice that my Z2 wont read other sim cards...just one operator.I tried 2 different operators but only call for help and blank signal bar.In service menu shows all zeros in simlock.I don't u understand what it is?Do you have similar problem?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Hmmm :rolleyes: in past your phone worked on others carriers?
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I didn't know.But i remember when i bought it it was sim free in service menu...no X mark in front network or any oder in sim lock menu.Maybe i lock it in flashtool...when i change flashtool versions maybe I don't know.Now i don't have simlock.ta in flashtool.Maybe firmware don't have it... i don't know.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
I edited systemui or framework idk remember​ exactly to reduce the minimum brightness threshold.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
There are several ways to pull this off. I always lower both absolute min and min dimmed brightness levels as one of the first to-dos after rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I flashed existenz 2 days ago.

This time without xposed, my phone seems to be faster.

Used only grennify ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Smacksmack206:
Any one with an XZ or XZS can use my work I'll share link if someone needs it
[Sony Cross-Device General] javitolopez69:
take that well. you adjust to take.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
6 h 21 minutes SOT and 40 % left?? :eek:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Smacksmack206:
Pretty consistent really depend on if I'm on my phone all day or not

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Those are screenshots from different days, 12 hr screenshot was like 2 months ago that's in my op. And that other one was earlier today
[Sony Cross-Device General] Smacksmack206:
I delete my screenshots often but here's a idea on what I mean, the battery life is great and consistent. Performance is about the same no lag, I use high accuracy location and Bluetooth is always on for my hwatches and car stereo. I usually go on Facebook and Snapchat and telegram and XDA and chrome and YouTube all day and check back every so often sometimes every few mins and see my active drain​ . I've been developing my governor for over 3months now
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Xposed Framework doesn't drain or impact performance (aside from the occasional bootloop on non-compatible ROMs). Modules provide the benefit and, potentially, generate excess drain. That said, 'less is more' as it seems you are coming to terms with over time. Enjoy.

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Bit of a pessimist; I have yet to see a governor profile generate dramatic changes over the baseline. Incremental - yes. Dramatic - no. Will be interesting if others can duplicate your findings. If so you might consider elevating your work to a more visible forum and/or seek donations for 'cracking the code'.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Smacksmack206:
I appreciate the suggestion fam might consider doing that
[Sony Cross-Device General] dingdong3000:
Shame about the xaomi camera quality tho
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Share your work here also brother. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Smacksmack206:
I appreciate the love fam, here ya go

https://xdaforums.com/xperia-xz/how-to/5-10hr-sot-artisan-interactive-governor-t3580142
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Why???Redmi Note 4X has better camera then Z2.That is true.Becuse i have both devices and i test in same conditions.Even they say that Note 4X is bad in dark conditions,Z2 is worse.And dynamic range is much much better in Note 4X and camera is very fast.
[Sony Cross-Device General] amjad03:
I'm constantly loosing 1.3%-1.5% when my phone is sleeping. I had this problem in stock too. I have attached BBS logs one with flight mode in which I lost 0% over 6 hours. So I dont think my battery is faulty. other BBS log is my normal settings. I haven't noticed anything wired in gsam also.

I have tested with auto sync off in which I lost 0.6% per hour (no log) and flight mode with wifi on, I lost 0.7% per hour. I only use greenify now with aggressive doze now because forcedoze was keeping my phone in awake in some occasions. I didnt see any change with Lspeed so I decided to test without it until I identify the problem.

I just want to have idle drain below 0.5% per hours without disabling many functions.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
You have enabled "Google location history"?:confused:

Try to update Google play services to latest beta version (11.0.56) and then wipe gms data.
[Sony Cross-Device General] amjad03:
No location history is disabled. I have already updated to 11.0.56 couple of days ago. Did not see any improvement. I did wipe gms data but cant remember if its before or after updating.

Edit- WiFi & Bluetooth scanning is off too
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
How old is your battery?
[Sony Cross-Device General] amjad03:
more than 1.5 years. but I didnt have any problem in flight mode so I dont think its my battery failing
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
If your problem persist even with stock rom, probably the biggest drainer is weak signal.:confused:

I don't see another reason.
[Sony Cross-Device General] amjad03:
Maybe its a hardware fault. Because I have full signal where I live.

Edit- Its only a problem with idle drain btw. If I use the phone constantly I can get over 6 hours of SOT.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
If you can get over 6 hours SOT that's mean that your battery is healthy :good:

But I don't understand what causes idle drain :confused:

Use better battery stats or wakelock detector to find where is the problem.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Both logs were slightly tainted by excess screen-on time; might try this method for future logs. 0% drain in airplane mode is a bit misleading as it would have been 0.2%/hr with just a 1% drop in battery which was likely to occur the next time the battery was sampled. Still, the difference between 0.2% and 1.3% is both measurable and significant. I also appreciate you took readings at mid-charge levels which are typically more accurate than the extremes.

That said, what you are observing is Android, Google Play Services and apps with dependencies on the previous two going about their business in the presence of a network connection. Radios themselves also consume some power as evidenced by the your own testing (flight mode and WiFi on; radios on with sync disabled), especially in less than ideal signal conditions. Finally, the age of your battery is likely a minor contributor as early signs of deterioration included increased/inconsistent fall off at moderate drain rates.

A few of the power poachers could be reigned in using Amplify/Xposed on a pre-nougat ROM. But the savings would not be that great IMHO and you would take on complexity and potential side effects as part of the bargain.

My only recommendation is disabling aggressive doze in Greenify. This really offers no meaningful benefit in the vast majority of usage scenarios and can trigger side effects similar to what you observed with Force Doze.
[Sony Cross-Device General] EQ2000:
No you are wrong. Period. :cool:
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Do you have Redmi Note 4X and Xperia Z2?Well i have them both and believe me in display, performance,camera,battery and updates and customer care...Note 4X is way better then Z2,Z3 and possible Z5.And i was disappointed to becuse i didn't expect so much from this price range and Xiaomi device.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
The perceived quality/value of a device is largely dependent on owner perceptions. That's not a bad thing! Drives me batty when a publication/reviewer tells me how I should feel about something. Technical specs are quantitative and factual; qualitative is a completely different beast. I am currently rocking a mobile that suits me find fine and cost a fraction what others pay. Tech specs are meh but it does everything I want it to. In the end that's all that matters.

Enjoy your 4X. If it continues to meet/exceed expectations then probably reasonable to say goodbye to the old Z2 as it will never 'feel' the same as when you first fell in love. It's probably quietly playing an Adele tune right now ("Hello") sobbing in it's own silicone.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
That's it [MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] most of famous phone manufacturers are just marketing and they make one or two top devices and other cheaper models are just not even close to their "flagship" devices that is over priced anyway and not worth that price.I have Z5 for about 10 days and it's just not worthy of that price....i realy love sony but after 10 days with Z5 i take it back and i take Note 4X just to feel some difference and i like that this phone is not cheap it's just perfectly balanced for that price... that's all.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Well...i wouldn't dismiss all "famous phone manufactures" non-flagship models. My modest phone comes from one of the majors. It's a great device!
[Sony Cross-Device General] amjad03:
Here is the new log. I had a call in middle of testing so its only 5.5 hours. I disabled aggressive doze in greenify. Location was on battery save. Still draining 1.3% for hours. Thanks for helping me out.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I thinks same...not all but from 20 devices you can pick 2-3 top to have balanced device.Just like Redmi Note 4 with decacore mediatek cpu.It has 20000 more on antutu then Redmi Note 4X with octacore snapdragon 625 cpu but in all day use and battery snapdragon beat mtk easy.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Nice tight log, thanks. Demonstrates aggressive doze was not interfering with sleep; nor was it helping in this usage scenario. I would keep it off for now.

Battery save setting on location services is typically less battery friendly than device only as the device is woken numerous times to reacquire approximate location based on cell tower triangulation and known (mapped) APs. Google then harvests this info for it's own use. As you might imagine this consumes a fair bit of juice without a corresponding benefit to a stationary device.

The days of hardware GPS gobbling power are long gone. Typically GPS chips are enabled/disabled as needed. In contrast Google Location Services runs continuously which is is why Google encourages its use. It does allow many apps/services to obtain an approximate location more quickly and works in locations where hardware GPS won't such as inside a building. Choose your poison.

As for the rest it looks much like previous logs. If you keep GCM aware apps running during sleep (eg: AquaMail, WhatsApp) they are going to wake on occational and do presumably desired/useful tasks. There is little you can do to restrict this behavior on Nougat other that configure apps to be less aggressive during sleep. AquaMail has a ton of sync options; not sure about WhatsApp.

My earlier comments regarding battery age still apply. A mid-life pack with hundreds of charge/discharge cycles is not going to perform the same as one with a couple dozen cycles. Hit up the Battery University site if you want a quick overview of lithium-ion battery characteristics.

Good luck.
[Sony Cross-Device General] crisout:
Hey guys, Did you noticed that HEBF Optimizer has changed the google service fix (now is missing) and there is a huge consumption in gp services and fc?
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Hey guys the new update on HEBF hasn't got the Google play services drain fix.is it there with another option?

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[Sony Cross-Device General] crisout:
Download a preview version at apkmirror, That's what I did.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
HEBF didn't fixed the complete google play services drain. Google is sick. With every update there is something added and with every update usually the battery drain rises (due to play services ) and even with HEBF or amplify or my Android tools , you can stop the drainage completely.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Perhaps on certain ROMs/configs/devices. I have not seen a significant increase in drain with the newest Play Services builds. Can easily idle at 0.2% per hour on a modern device running stock Marshmallow without any heavy duty tweaks. As the saying goes, YMMV.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
HEBF is only effective for certain Google Play Service versions that have a bad configuration, otherwise uninstall (HEBF) does help enhance battery life though.

Currectly on Carbon 7.1.2, only with ForceDoze, still constant 4-6hrs SoT achieved.
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
Sudden drop of 20%!!!!

Hi Guys,

I need your help as I am getting a sudden drop of 20% on my battery . I have Xperia Z2 D6502 and had installed Mx ROM and followed some advice and got a SOT of 4 hrs max . My stock firmware MM gave 3.30 hrs. I had been using greenify , HEBF optimizer to control google play services and amplify to control some wake locks. Later on I planned to downgrade my ROM to lollipop as the battery had been better on that initially . So i flashed the stock firmware 23.1.A.0.726 (5.0.2 / Lollipop update). The SOT was good , i had 2.30 hrs of SOT when my battery is at 55% . So I had a thought that I would get an SOT of 5+ hrs when am reaching 1%. But instead, I got a sudden drop of 20 % in my battery, from 53% It had suddenly gone to 33 % and finally got the SOT of about 3.45 hrs . Also while charging it was very slow , I charged it for about 3 hrs and I got only 63 % charged in. I thought of clearing the cache partition, so I did that force restart ( Volume up + power) and suddenly the % was 93 % . So that i thought it would fix my issue. From there on, the charging hasn't been an issue. But for the next consecutive 3 times, the 20 % drop happened at different times like in ( 50%, 30 %, 25 % ) .

So I thought there was a BUG in the firmware and downgraded even to kitkat 4.4.4 (23.0.1.A.0.167). I thought this wud fix the issue, but it is not. Am still having the same 20% drop at different times. Please let me know what could have been the issue. Will battery calibration work? If yes how to do it for non rooted device as am current in that state, or Do I have to root again and try some other ROM. [MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] [MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION] [MENTION=6891123]iXaidyiu[/MENTION] need your input guys on this.. Thanks in Advance!!!
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I think you need to replace your battery.I never heard that anyone have so little sot on Z2.I get 3,5h sot on my old Xperia Z.When i insall stock MM without any power saving tools or stamina i get from 5-7h easy.I install MX for a short time(3-5 days) and i get back to existenz.Also on existenz i get simmilar results to stock.Only on RR i get more then 8h sot.And i buy my Z2 already used and i don't know how much is old...but i never experienced that battery drops...on any rom...stock or LOS based.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
- rate of charge and reported battery level are typically regulated by the kernel

- kernel may have been updated when flashing different ROMs

- likely the battery is reaching end of useful life; erratic level reporting (voltage fluxuation) is characteristic of an aging pack
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
After 2,5 days

Weak signal drain a lot :(
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
2.5 days of ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
2 days 13 hours and 45 minutes from the last charge :p
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Of what usage?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
What do you mean? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Normal daily usage or you went on camping or what so ever?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I forgot the charger to a friend and my phone has survived 2,5 days :laugh:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
On my new OnePlus 5. Without and battery saving apps.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Evidence such apps are largely unnecessary on newer devices running a contemporary ROM (preferably stock).
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes, its preferably stock. And now I've replaced everything with black bra use its an Amoled Screen. I hope to cross 8 hours on regular usage.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Effect of black on Amoled Screen.
[Sony Cross-Device General] PeppeBove:
Useless? [emoji15] or what?

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[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Very useful bro. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Potential is large; real world savings depend on how religious one is about using AMOLED optimized apps and backgrounds.

http://www.greenbot.com/article/283...interface-really-save-on-amoled-displays.html
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
I was on normal white theme. At that time got 7 hours. Swtiched to black on some apps. Got around 9-10.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Samir2298:
How did you invert everything to black?
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Keep in mind not all blacks are the same. A very deep grey will pull as much power as the whitest white on an AMOLED panel. Some apps that claim to be AMOLED compliant don't use true black. Best way to test is crank up the brightness to full then toggle between the various themes while monitoring overall device power consumption (realtime; not computed).
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Okay. Thanks for sharing this info.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
OnePlus theme engine. Substratum can do that too.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
You on Carbon ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Link to the thread please ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Ugh... Link in my signature, download link is same for Lineage OS and Carbon OS, so tap the link for LineageOS is okay.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Signatures don't show (and can not be called up) in many mobile apps used to access XDA content...including XDA labs. Browser only.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes that's a problem. But when you click on someone's avatar. It takes you to their profile. And you can look at someone's signature there.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Absolutely correct on XDA labs - forgot that feature was added. Thanks for the reminder! :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Aikam:
this guide is awesome but i have found my only problem since i clean install MM existenz and follow the guide here not all i only use greenify, AppopsXposed, Force Doze, KCAL FLASHABLE MODULE FOR MINIMUM BRIGHTNESS, Stamina Mode and black notification and keyboard the only problem is when i download something on playstore the moment i lock the screen or off it self it does not continue download the phone is still connected to wifi but the thing i downloading on playstore it says waiting for wifi i disable all module then try it but still not working
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Add playstore and downloaded to whitelist from Forcedoze and Greenify.

Press the thanks button if you like the guide. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Aikam:
ohh its very hard to find the whitelist on greenify i did not even know about it thanks it has solve the problem
[Sony Cross-Device General] zputnyq:
What he meant is don't greenify playstore & download app
[Sony Cross-Device General] Samir2298:
I am on lineage os and it has builtin feature to change cpu frequencies. So can it conflict with lspeed(if I change the frequencies in app)?
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
It depends on which one execute first, which one the later. The later one override the previous one.
[Sony Cross-Device General] AliR3zas:
Sorry ,Can i have this theme on my Z2? (Or something similar) Can you give me the link? I can't find it no matter how i search:eek:
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
This theme is PitchBlack for Substratum and can be installed on any OMS-enabled devices, NOT with stock Sony.
[Sony Cross-Device General] AliR3zas:
I'm on the RR rom and the phone is rooted but there is no "fast-dormancy" folder in root/etc path. [MENTION=6891123]iXaidyiu[/MENTION] Can you help me out bro?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Then leave the fast dormancy tweak mate.