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[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Thats beacuse the battery is optimised that way. It takes almost 30 mins to go from 100 to 99. But then from 99 it starts draining at a fast rate. So 14-6 is drained fast and 6 to 2 slow so that you have ample time to put your phone to charger.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I saw more users who have this problem. I think Sony made this for to have ample time to charge phone.But is annoying to see percentage draining sometimes fast and sometimes very slow.:(
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Can't be helped bro ._.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
If you are suspecting the inconsistent battery leveler, you can recalibrate your battery.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I tried many times but without success. I had this problem with old and new battery, so this issue seems to be from phone.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
final version is out.......
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Yes - happens with some devices. Recalibrating can help but likely would NOT yield perfectly linear percentages from 99 to 1 under a constant load. Another reason SoT reports are useless without referencing device type, start and stop percentages and workload (preferably stable) during the monitoring window.
[Sony Cross-Device General] darekesp:
Any tips for non rooted XZ?

Tap Tap z XZ
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Greenify and force doze works for non rooted devices bro. And the stamina mode is always there.

How much Sot do you usually get ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] darekesp:
After nougat update nearbly 4 h on MM I get 7h now I switch lte off, only h+ still on.

Tap Tap z XZ
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Use greenify brother.

And force doze now works on nougat. You just need to give some adb commands using your computer.

Im sure it will give you 5+ hrs.

//Press thanks if it helped.
[Sony Cross-Device General] darekesp:
Now I install greenyfi but witch command do U mean?

Tap Tap z XZ
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Is any have solution for RILJ and how to stop location service in it?This is phone related wakelock but in AppOps Phone/Location says "Never Used".Do i disable it anyway?I have disable service app and AppOps.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Search force doze XDA on google and you'll get it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] darekesp:
Force doze screaming for root so I don't know does it work on non rooted

Tap Tap z XZ
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
I have disabled RILJ in amplify to 1600 secs.

You should do that

//Press thanks if it helped.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Here.

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[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Try my amplify settings.;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
[MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION] mate why you have unticked this

Isnt it better to have ignore lockscreen timeout??
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
You lockscreen take 5-10 seconds to lock your phone after the lights go off. So if i enable that option, as soon as the light goes off the phone will enter doze and phone will not be locked and when you will click the power button to unlock your device next time, it will be where you left your phone and no password will be asked.

//Press thanks if it helped.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Thanks bro.Do your setting restricts whatsapp,viber,telegram push messages?I only need that.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I don't have any problem with notifications.

Try it and tell me if you see a problem.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Great bro.I will try now.Thank bro
[Sony Cross-Device General] klemen241:
Took me 4 days to get all steps haha. The problem is on z5 it got too slow, how to fix it?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Your phone got too slow ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] klemen241:
i guess it was **** kernel, flashed another one and its better. Thanks for great thread
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Aaah. No problem bro.

But use the thanks button :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I have it limited in Amplify but i still get this.Is maybe some app using this?I'm always on mobile data now,no wifi.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Very strange.:eek:

You use SD maid or Disable Services application?

Don't limited this service in amplify because it will open again and can drain battery.Try to wipe Google play services data.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I will try that.I think i limited it disable service app.Can i just restore it via amplify and delete gsm data?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Uninstall Disable Service application, open amplify, go to services, find "com.google.abdroid.gms/ measurement.PackageMeasurementService" must be " Allow" (like in above screenshot)

If problem persist wipe gsm data and reboot.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I uninstall it yesterday and then install amplify.But i forgotten to enable that google service again.But i have same problem before that,before i disable it.I wipe gsm data also.Posible that some app doing that and keep that service awake.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Ok, tell me if this problem persist.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I think it's ok now...but i will wait to fully discharge it and then charge battery full and see what happens.Thanks again bro for support and for sharing your amplify settings.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I'm glad to hear this.:)

With auto sync off, location off and location history off, Google play services drain should be 1-2% (most time have 0% drain).:)

Charge your phone and tell me if gms still draining the battery.;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Yes,all that is off.I will bro.I test it and report here.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
You can acheive even lower drain rates by simply switching off your phone. I have one in the drawer that still shows 0% loss after 6 months. Amazing!

IMHO a 'smart phone' should not go through a lobotomy to acheive artificially low drain rates or ridiculously long SoT acheivements. Just say'in ...
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Man, believe me: I using my phone as a smartphone not like a Nokia 3310. :laugh:

I'm not obsessed to reach long SOT, I tried to limit the drainage without create side effects or instability. I appreciate your answers but I don't understand what you want to say or what I did wrong.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
You did nothing "wrong". Sharing experiences and knowledge is what XDA is about.

GMS performs useful functions (at least to some) in exchange for battery. Disabling core services will clearly save battery. It's a trade-off. I also believe most OEMs get it largely right w.r.t. to device and ROM tuning. In my experience the 80/20 (ideally 95/5) rule applies with the smaller number reflecting the effort required to obtain the larger. There are so many tools and tweaks being discussed in this thread that it seems the ratios are sometimes reversed.

This is more than philosophical high-ground. My primary handset is an inexpensive $100 USD mainstream device (moto G4 series) running near-stock Marshmallow. On receipt I removed a bit of bloat and installed Greenify/Xposed to insure Doze behaves in a manner similar to Nougat. No Amplify, Force Doze, HEBF L-Speed, Nap Time, etc. I do use MyAndroidTool and SD Maid to control a (very) few poorly designed apps. These aren't magical utilities; just happen to like the presentation. Idle drain hovers in the 0.2-0.3% per hour range with all 'core' Google service enabled including location, sync and push mail. I do not use a 'personal assistant'. Mobile/WiFi radios remain on 7x24. Occasionally I'll temporarily force 3G in poor LTE reception areas. I pay no attention to SoT but active battery consumption rates range 5-15% per hour depending on workload and environment. Enough to get me through a full day and often two. Got two tablets that behave the same way. On almost every device screen brightness is the biggest determiner of battery life (yes, there are exceptions). The rest is gravy. Pretty simple stuff that minimizes initial and ongoing maintenance.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
We are different kinds of users.

For you gms is useful, for me is " the worst application which Google created it". I said this because I don't use functions like Google location history, android device manager or other gms function, so for me this application drain battery without make nothing useful.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Perhaps. I do not use GMS services often (contact sync, occasional mapping) but don't want to think about what's enabled/disabled. And they don't use that much juice when behaving 'normally'. Perhaps 2-3% of overall battery capacity on a modern phone.

Some folks whack out seeing hundreds of GMS based wakelocks. Most are benign (never get executed) but few understand how wakelocks, alarms and receivers work. In that regard I like your approach to quantifying results of tweaks in practical terms by showing rundown time to 50%. Far better than tabulating raw WLs. While no longevity measure is perfect SoT seems to hit the right notes for those in this thread.
[Sony Cross-Device General] viewtifuljoe71:
Yeah this crazy ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yeah man. You right. I've seen many people on v7's thread also just asking about wakelocks to limit them l. Even if they don't drain 1% in the whole day.

People need to understand all wakelocks are not battery drainers.

Congrats brother. Vote for the poll and do press the thanks button :')
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Hey mate [MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION] how to put these settings in amplify ?!
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Go to data-data-com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce-shared_prefs and replace com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce_preferences.xml

:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Great!! Did it but I don't see in-app any changes ?

Is it because I am not in existenz rom ?!
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Reset amplify stats and reboot.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Bro u using LSpeed and with what profile?I use it with balanced.And i have hebf and AppOps for play services fix.Or i just uninstall hebf and use only appops?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I gave up at L speed but if you want I shared my backup settings few posts back.:)

I don't use HEBF because in my case this application create gms drain.Amplify is enough for limit gms.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Over time most discover one way or another that 'less is more' when it comes to effective (operative word) tuning and containing rogue apps/processes/services/drains. Layering on multiple tools is just asking for trouble and rarely achieves the desired goals.

Recommend pruning the Amplify list to only those wakelocks that are proven drainers. Big numbers don't tell the story as most alarms and wakelocks are benign and do not materially impact battery life. Aggressive limiting can have the opposite effect...especially with Google Play Services.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Ok bro...thanks.I see that all this app except greenify and amplify is only backwards,not forward....if you know what i mean;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I learned that more alarm/wakelocks or high awake time not mean always battery drain.:)

As you said, most wakelocks are insignificant and don't cause battery drain.

If I understand, in my case: ActivityManager-Sleep created 26 wakelocks but total awake was only 2 seconds. So probably these wakelocks drain 0.0001%.:laugh:

I am right? ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Correct! Also note some tools (Amplify) report maximum wake time requested vs realized. Wakelocks are released once an action completes. Can't comment on WLD but believe the numbers are far more realistic.

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Quick comment on LSpeed. It remains a solid, easy to use tool for addressing specific performance related issues. It does not make permanent changes to the device which is a huge plus. The author/developer is very responsive and takes user feedback seriously. But, like most similar tools, it is not a one-stop pannacia for all things Android. Worth a look. Only twiddle one thing at a time and verify benefits before changing something else.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
L speed it's very good for battery, unfortunately this application isn't good for all devices.L speed is not game friendly and some tweaks create lag (in my case) but is good for save the battery.:)

However if you don't play heavy games L speed is a real battery saver.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Reduce in performance is the inevitable cost for battery saving...:rolleyes:

Better the battery saving effect, the worse the performance will become.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
I wouldn't characterize L-Speed as a battery saving app. Yes, it can lean in that direction if so configured but it's primary intent is enhancing the performance of various subsystems which can lead to more or less battery use.

As for being "not game friendly" I believe that was based on govtuner settings which is only one of dozens of possible tweaks. As you noted results will vary widely based on device, kernel, ROM, workload and user expectations.

Again, worth a look (especially for newbies) but really can't be characterized with a broad brush.
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Edit:rebooted and its done ☺ thanks crit I will report back !! I am using Facebook messanger Instagram there will be no problems with notifications right mate??

I will report back ?

Also is HEBF for Google play services drain conflict with amplify??
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I don't use Facebook so I didn't limited any Facebook service in amplify. About HEBF, I don't know if create conflict, but if you see high drain from gms try to uninstall HEBF.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Something is wrong here.I think sistem shows badly wrongs stats. What you think [MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION]?Do i try with userdebug to calibrate the battery or to fresh install rom again?I have 45 mins of SOT but only wakelock detector app show it.I uninstall LSpeed and Hebf.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
It's clearly wrong stats.:eek:

You don't have real drain from gms, change ro.build.type= user to ro.build.type = userdebug, also wipe cache & dalvik cache.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Thanks bro.I try that now and report later.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
There is no creditable evidence fiddling with ro.build.type has any benefit for any of the topics discussed in this thread. Misinformation at best.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I left 77% den wake up n met 60%.... Initially it was 95% den it drop to 77% before nite without data n wasnt using tha phone.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Well i will try it.I never had this kind a problem.But if this fails then i install existenz all over again.I remove some more apps from system after dr.death's debloat script.Maybe that's why system is unstable.But i only remove recommended engine extension....something like that.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Gotta a nasty wlan (kernel) wakelock that is keeping the phone awake. These can be tough to deal with and are often device, kernel and/or AP specific. Try disabling WiFi for a day to see if behavior persists. Also kill audio streaming. Might help isolate the problem.

If a one time event reboot (full power off; wait 5 sec), verify all is well and then enjoy the beverage of your choosing. Stuff happens.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I only use wifi at work... I dnt use at home so its weird tha wifi is turning on.... How do i kill audio streaming brov? I always make sure tha wifi is turned off!

I ll try turning off tha phone for some seconds and turn it back on like yhu adviced. Thanks!

I have Xperia Z5 Sunkernel latest version Nougat 378 FW!
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Govtuner - battery

Brightness 10%

Only on mobile data.

I used the phone for reading in Tapatalk.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Great. ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
If gaming is only reason why you sre not using L Speed, use balanced govtuner profile instead of battery or try with disabled gov tuner.

Cheers
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
The battery life seems to be longer when the phone is charged close (turn off).

Also I saw that when leave the battery to discharge complete it seems to be weaker.:)

Usually I charged my phone when battery reach 1% and I think isn't good for battery life.

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When put govtuner on disable games running smoothly.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] i noticed that tha wlan was awake last nite while charging so i disable it.... tha battery only drops from 100% to 99%!

i dnt know what is turning on tha wlan.

[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION] please take a look at this post; https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71481087&postcount=1319

i dnt have any battery mod except stamina mode cos when i had greenify on, it still happens.......... if yhu dnt mind, please share yur latest LSpeed config guys! [MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION]
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
using the first setup by [MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION]

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed/l-speed-share-setup-t3561854
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
thank yhu buddy....i just did dat but also mind sharing yur present greenify settings please!

thanks...:good::highfive:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
The one stated in the OP bro. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I didn't expect to reach 2 hours with 20% :eek:

This is the best result until now.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I ll check again now and apply setup....

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If i greenify tha current font im using, will it affect and also xperia theme with icon packs?

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Mood, it won't affect them.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
Okay..... :mood:
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Look in the advanced WiFi settings (on your device) for an option that enables/disables WiFi while charging. Might be hiding in the 3-dot menu when you bring up WiFi settings. This is not something L-Speed or most other general purpose tools can 'fix'. It's a device setting.

My guess is WiFi is being enabled while charging and not returning to the prior state when disconnected.

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- calibrate your battery (related)

- no damage to battery allowing it drop to 1% then charging to 100%

- cautions you may see floating around pertain to rarely used devices; lithium batteries last the longest in storage when partially charged (40-60%); that's why most devices arrive with a partial charge!

- same for charging to 100%; most mobile devices (phones) do not stay at this level for long so benefits associated with a full charge outweigh small impact on lifespan; this does not necessarily apply to larger electronics like laptops which may spend long periods at charge levels >80%
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I'm tried to understand how "works" lithium ion batteries. I saw that a battery "feels good" between 40%- 90% of capacity, but is annoying to charging phone from 40%.I think isn't healthy for battery to be charged from 0% to 100% :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Fully drained and fully charged isnt really a good thing. That's why Sony has pushed out the Battery Care & Charging Optimisation function to reduce & prevent the user (aka you) to reach above 90-95%. And there is 2 battery warning in most of the Android devices at 30% and 15%.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
One needs to distinguish between the purest and practice views along with the typical charge, discharge and steady state patterns of the device in question. The behavior of lithium-ion batteries is well understood. Take a drive through Battery University if you want to know more keeping the above comment in mind. Lots of FUD out there. Good luck.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I saw dis buddy... Thanks!

Tho i have installed LSpeed and Greenify apps... I tried calibrating my battery now, charged yesterday night and presently at 17%.... Waiting till it gets to 2-3% before charging.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Thanks man.:) I will read that.

Almost 4 hours with 50 %, only on mobile data, brightness was always 10%, govtuner - battery.
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Using l speed,?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Yes, L speed with govtuner on battery profile.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Do you have lags with battery profile?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Rarely in basic tasks, but isn't annoying, small games running smoothly, I didn't tried heavy games but I'm expecting to have lag.So if you don't play heavy games try battery profile.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I don't play games at all.I will try it bro...Thanks for tip:good:
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
This is crazy [MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION], look this battery stats.I have to freshly install existenz again.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Wooow :eek:

I think that you did something wrong.:confused:

With other ROM you have this problem?
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I don't use other rom...i used stock MM and then existenz.I have Locked Bootloader.I think yes....very possible my fault.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
With stock rom you had this wrong stats?
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
No bro...not with existenz when i install it first and second time.I now freshly install existenz and i will see how it goes.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I searched about your problem but I didn't find nothing.:(

Is very weird.:rolleyes:
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
[MENTION=5373858]maxxx83[/MENTION]

Clear cache and ART cache && recalibrate the battery levels should have it solved.

[MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION]
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
He doesn't have real drain from gms, just a wrong stats.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
So the first one - clear caches - should solve it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I used the phone in similar conditions.

In first screenshot I used Grennify + Amplify + Appopsxposed + Force doze + L speed.

In second screenshot I used only L speed.

The difference is negligible.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
It happens beacuse phone takes time to kick all the wakelocks. So if you have just tested them with a difference then it may have been that many wakelocks limited by Amplify have not even kicked. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I try all but nothing works.I freshly install existenz and i wait phone to fully charge and see.

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I know...i search to but nothing.Funny thing is...gms is showing say 1h mobile radio active...when using phone and battery drops to 60-50% and i check stats it shows 14-16h mobile radio active...very strange problem.I will see when i use phone.What u suggest to install now first...just LSpeed or amplify and greenify.And what is better to use for doze...to enter doze without waiting?
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Hum - what I have been saying all along. Marshmallow based roms sometimes need a little help entering and maintaining doze. Beyond that no 3rd party apps are needed to obtain respectable battery life on Android 6+.

Incremental improvements can sometimes be acheived using tools such as L-Speed. Big drainers are almost universally attributable to app portfillo, device configuration, environment and (rarely) kernel flaws. Look there first.