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[General Topics] casouzaj:
I'm aware of i-mate's financial crisis, already for a big while now. Nevertheless, I'll keep my 9502, probably for as long as it lasts, simply because it fulfills my present (and futrure) needs. Besides, I like it a lot, mainly because everything just works! :)

Cheers!

Carlos
[General Topics] esiu:
to disable 3g:

press the green, click menu->options, go to advanced tab and check "disable phone packet data service"

g-profile is a nice app that allows you to control your comms right from the today screen.
[General Topics] babil72:
imate site down

help please i wanna flash my imate ultimate 9502 with rom 1.77 but official site is down where i could find this rom? heeeeeeeeeeeeelp please,

thank you, :) i'm new and i don't know if it's polite or not but my email for pv is czc.babil72@gmail.com thank you again and perdon my bad english, i'm italian...
[General Topics] casouzaj:
Look here.

Cheers!

Carlos
[General Topics] keeganmaulidia:
hi im an i-mate user

and is there anyone can give me a link to download 6.5 rom for imate 9502?

thx be4
[General Topics] bommel0815:
there is no 6.5 image for the old imate.
[General Topics] saeedari:
hello

whats imate 9502 rom Group ? Elf , prophet , ... which ?

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i want a lite 6.1 or 6.0 rom for this ppc

thanks
[General Topics] raymondu999:
Actually... in Indonesia, I just saw a guy selling it at a store, selling it for 7.700.000 rupiah, or, in dollars, around US $837. And it was in stock. I saw the packaging of it sitting on the shelf. In addition, he himself used one... and let me play with it... I'm not gonna comment on speed/responsiveness cos it could very well be just the new device syndrome making me think it's faster. Now WHY didn't I think to photograph the damn thing?
[General Topics] srmz:
I actually like the 9502 very much and would love to have it when it becomes available in the UAE. But my only concern is the very low free RAM of 30 MB as I have read in some reviews. If they sort this out 9502 becomes my next device.
[General Topics] cushcalc:
Looks like 9502 and 8502 both available now

Also show that the 8502 is in stock.

The official i-mate website now links through to this when you look for UK dealers, but if you look for USA dealers, still showing the old lineup with the 8150 as the most recent device.
[General Topics] maevro:
I am an authorized I-Mate dealer on I-Mate's website and speak to their US rep. He has been telling me that the 9502 and 8502 should be out in the US very soon, hopefully they won't be held back.
[General Topics] exlixx:
Anybody knows whether BlackBerry Connect can run on the i-mate 8502 or 9502? Thanks.
[General Topics] baddison:
At last...its finally in stock!:p

http://www.devicewire.co.uk/i-mate-ultimate-9502
[General Topics] microq:
I want imate ultimate forum!

Well... I have one in my hot little hands!

They are on sale in Australia this week and are looking to sell very well indeed - Australia seemingly has just about exhausted its stock of the TyTN II and of course the JASJAM/Dopod 838pro/TyTN etc...aswell...

The 8502 and 9502 will be sold initially exclusivly by Telstra (our main operator here) as I'm sure people have mentioned before...

I think there should be a forum on here for it, HTC or not...

just my $0.02...

D
[General Topics] raymondu999:
Well... This forum is mainly to devices manufactured by HTC despite of popularity, and in the past, has only really accomodated the non-HTC Atom, and has neglected devices, despite of their popularity, due to non-HTC manufacture. Just my 0.02 cents as well.
[General Topics] srmz:
Hi microq can you quickly tell me what is the Free RAM that you get immediately after a soft reset. There seems to be a problem with the Imate 9502 in this area.

Thanks and enjoy your new phone
[General Topics] finesse:
:confused:
[General Topics] Toast Rack:
8502 Free Memory

Attached is my Memory screen after soft reset. Mind you I have quite a few apps installed! ;-)

Does that help?
[General Topics] srmz:
Thanks for the screenshot. Guess I will have to wait till they resolve the memory problem. I think I saw in another screen shot that even their own other Ultimate series phone 8502 had close to 65 MB free after a soft reset. Just don't remember where I saw that screenshot. Thanks anyways for your response.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
It should.
[General Topics] schriss:
Maybe it's not an issue, but simple registry/OS configuration, for example FileSystem Cache taking most of Free memory for itself, freeing up as needed. There is a Reg entry for that, maybe set to 0 and see...
[General Topics] ginloin:
8502 Memory

Hey guys. This is a first time post for me...

I have bought an 8502 and generally it is pretty good. But re the 8502 and memory, this is one of the big criticisms of it - the lack of available RAM. It has 128MB, yet with all the startup bloatware that runs this is reduced to 35MB on fresh start or less. A bit of tweaking can result in more. I freed up around 4MB on startup by using a standard tweak that disables the default operator skin (HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled = 0). Brilliant!! Everything works as normal but with more memory...except...

...weirdly, when doing this, the intelligent Fn lock for the number pad doesn't work. So, for example, with the operator skin, you can start typing 1, 2, 3 etc, and the phone automatically starts selecting contacts from your phone book that have both the letters 'uio' but also 123. Another example might be using the dialler - it knows you are using numbers automatically so you don't have to hold down the Fn button. Or to type in a simple PIN at screen lock - no need to hold down Fn because it knows that this can only be numbers. When the phone is restored to the default Windows skin, everything works fine except you have to hold down Fn every time you want numbers, no matter what the app. So basically, it loses the ability to intelligently determine when you need numbers.

I don't suppose anyone would know how to make it use the Fn key intelligently without having to use the operator skin? Is there a possible registry key for this, or would it be in the skin files? I wouldn't care all that much if imate would find a way to release a whole stack more of that RAM. Having so little available in a device that packs 128MB is disappointing.
[General Topics] Grem:
87MB Storage Free and 37MB Program Free after a soft reset here, no apps installed but also not a Telstra branded 9502.

Another vote for a 9502, or even just an i-mate forum here .. they are at least ex-HTC after all ;)
[General Topics] cushcalc:
i-Mate 8502 personal experience

I just received an 8502 from clove.co.uk yesterday.

Here's my first impressions:

-I really like the keyboard - even though it is quite narrow, the key travel and action are so comfortable and precise that I find it quite nice for typing.

-The overall size and feel and quality of the unit are excellent.

-The screen is not as bright nor as vivid in color as my Tilt, e.g. bright blue on the Tilt screen has a bit of a greenish-grayish-blue look on the 8502.

-The joystick works fine, but the select part is not as easy to use as the selection button in the middle of the D-Pad of the Tilt.

-No dedicated buttons for Internet Explorer and for Messaging.

-Only 1 button that you can change assignments of (short press and long press, so 2 assignments possible - I changed to Voice Command and Audio Notes) - vs. Tilt having 6 buttons assignable, for a total of 12 actions one can customize.

-The real killer is that only 2 GB microSD card is supported. I installed a .cab called SDHC.777.cab which is supposed to allow use of higher capacity SDHC cards, and it seemed to work at first, with the unit recognizing both a 4 GB and 6 GB card that I tried, but as I explored with Resco Explorer, sometimes folder contents were visible but sometimes they appeared empty - so it is unreliable and I fear that data could be garbled as I read and write files. I can't believe that they have brought out a phone that uses microSD but not to their full capacity, when it should be a simple matter of having the correct drivers built in. I'm using an 8 GB card in my Tilt now with no issues. 2 GB is just not enough, when I am using Navteq iGuidance v4.0 as my GPS program and the map data file for that alone is 1.1 GB in size!

-I was so excited to get this phone, and I think it is so close to being the perfect phone, because I really like the form factor with the portrait screen and QWERTY keyboard, but it falls short in these several key areas that seemingly could have been remedied with a little more thought and design and very little extra cost!

-Very difficult to find any accessories, or discussion forums, where all the HTC phones have the wonderful xda-developers.com plus many other sites, that make it very easy to customize those phones. So far I haven't even found anyone selling spare batteries for the 8502!

-Oh, and many of the pictures I've seen made it look like it has an attractive shiny brushed aluminum trim strip around the sides, but it really is a dull gray metal strip that adds nothing to the look - chrome like the Blackjack II, or brushed aluminum, would have given it a touch of style, I think.
[General Topics] mike freegan:
Finally came yesterday! This thing is brilliant! Much more stable than I predicted, and it feels solid. TV out is beautiful. No need to take my expensive laptop on tour now! Woohoo! It feels so solid, and the firmware doesn't feel like a buggy beta which is unusual for a new WM device.

And every app I have tried on it works (voice command 1.6, SPB pocketplus, resco photo viewer)

Things I need resolving before I'm 100% satisfied are:

Reg hack for increasing video recording framerate/size. I'm going to install a registry editor tomorrow and have a fiddle.

SDHC hack. 2GB is insufficient. I have read reports that this is under development and will be released soon.

Need to find a decent way to encode videos. It can't handle upscaling 320 x 240 vids to the VGA screen too well, but VGA vids are too high bitrate for it to handle. What a predicament.

Need to test Tomtom and Coreplayer when the SDHC hack is released although I believe both work flawlessly.
[General Topics] netnerd:
did clove send u tracking #? clove said they will ship my imate 9502 today, but i havnt gotten any tracking # yet!
[General Topics] schriss:
They shipped mine on friday and it arrived Tuesday morning, that was Standard delivery from UK to Poland, so quick!
[General Topics] netnerd:
i heard when your start your gps programs, u need to manually turn on gps?

WTF! i used to have Eten x800, gps automally start when u start gps program.

can some1 make a script to turn on gps automally when u start gps program?
[General Topics] tommymunch:
Ultimate 9502

I got my Imate 9502 2 days ago from Clove. Excellent service and delivery times. Left on Friday from there warehouse in England, arrived Monday in the US.

I absolutely love it.

I replaced the Jasjar (Universal) after a long 2 1/2 years.

Pros:

It is faster than the old model, thinner, lighter. Battery lasts a lot longer.

Windows mobile 6.1

3 MP camera takes much better pics than older cam.

Battery casing is real metal, not cheap plastic.

Soft reset is right above keyboard, easy access.

A lot of buttons with the keyboard closed.

GPS, haven't used yet.

Cons: smaller screen, smaller keyboard (less keys and much smaller). Miss the double speakers.

Overall impression:

Have to get used to slider vs clamshell and smaller keyboard. I enter data a lot so I have to learn to use this keyboard.

No more brick in my pocket. I can actually hold the phone to my ear without getting unusual stares.

Definitely recommend.
[General Topics] netnerd:
did dhl send u tracking #?

clove said my 9502 dispatched yesterday, but i havnt gotten any tracking # yet!

update: never mind, i went to clove.co.uk website and fill out a tracking form. they email me back 10 minutes later with tracking #!
[General Topics] yndor:
Did you get your 9502 with Windows mobile 6.1 really? I received it from Clove this Monday as well, but with Windows mobile 6 :confused:
[General Topics] res_au:
I-Mate Ultimate Roms

Hey just upgrading from a hermes, made a couple of roms with a kitchen for that, just wondering whether anyone can point me in the right direct to get started on the 9502. Cheers
[General Topics] goranicus:
After reading this I have ordered a 9502 from Clove yesterday (from Germany). Untill now no conformation jet, have emailed several times to them, they simply do not reply. If I don't get a answer untill monday then I will cancel my oder and order the imate elsewere.
[General Topics] mike freegan:
I got an email from Clove last Friday saying it would arrive the following Monday. It arrived Monday at about 11am. Great service.

All I can see that this needs to be perfect is:

1. SDHC patch (current patches destroy the Wifi)

2. Overclocking app for qualcomm processor.
[General Topics] goranicus:
You have got a email from them ?

Can you please send me the email address via pm !

I have written today 3 emails to Sales@clove.co.uk but it seems nobody is reading them :(
[General Topics] netnerd:
go to your account on their website and fill out a tracking form. they always repond to my Qs in less than a hour!

DHL shows my 9502 is already in my city dhl location, but they havnt deliver to me yet! maybe they playing with my 9502? it' already 11:20AM PST!
[General Topics] dbond45:
Missing 9502 from Clove

Seems my 9502 posted from Clove on 4/18 has gone missing in the U.S. and no one ( I mean know one) can help me. Not Clove, not the USPS, not customs, not JFK deliveries, etc.

Came into the country for fior final delivery in Chicago via JFK on 4/19, but since Clove ships via Royal Mail Airsure, it can't be tracked past that. Really, really crappy method of shipping if you ask me.

Clove has not been much help, only admitting they sent an $800 phone via an untrackable method. I've e-mailed them several times and called. No luck on getting a track. For all we know it could be on it's way back to the UK if you ask me....

The post office might have the worst CS known to man. No word on where it is or what could of happened. I was even told it may have been stolen.

Great.

How long must I wait for this damn phone? After two delays from Clove it was finally shipped, only to go MIA.

$800 gone. I hope Clove will send a replacement, or refund me ASAP. This is ridiculous.

Sorry for venting...

Dbond
[General Topics] cushcalc:
Tracking #, charge authorization

Yes, once I got billing approved with my bank - they initially put a hold from the fraud department (Wells Fargo) because they were "concerned" about possible unauthorized use of my credit card since the charge was coming from England. That caused me to miss out on the first batch and have to wait 10 days for the second batch, then call the fraud department again to loosen the reins.

So, check with your bank and make sure a charge has gone through - neither the bank nor Clove will tell you right away if they are sitting on it.
[General Topics] goranicus:
Thanks, have done this yesterday imediatly after reading this. But still no reply :(

On my account I can read only Order Reference CLOVE0804xxxxxxx (24/4/2008) - PROCESS , and no email answer jet. Clove is working on Sutterday ?

A very frightening storry :eek: I hope you get your money or your Phone soon !

I live in Germany, my Creditcard is from Germany, my email is firstname@lastname.net and with a simple whois you can verify my address and phone, there is nothing that can be suspicious.

The Phone should be a Birthday present for my Wife, I need it for the next weekend. So please do understand why I am nervous and angry when nobody answers my emails for days.

Sorry, but I am not convinced any more that Clove has "Excellent service and delivery times" :(
[General Topics] mike freegan:
Sorry mate, just sales@clove.co.uk
[General Topics] schriss:
Agreed, Clove = ultra fast shipping!

I'd add:

3. Memory problem - only 30MB free after reboot. Device has 128MB, so there must be a problem.

re overclocking - Pocket Hack Master, maybe he is working on that...

P.S. I don't care about SDHC :p There are two patches, second one seem stable and doesn't break anything.
[General Topics] netnerd:
any1 know how to cancel those exrom from loading? i cant cancel it! tried reset or camera button, it' not working!
[General Topics] netnerd:
i think they having problems with their email server. that y it' best to use the online tracking form.

i got this back when i send them email.

dateFri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM

subjectDelivery Status Notification (Delay)

hide details Apr 25 (1 day ago) Reply

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

sales@clove.co.uk

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:

TEMP_FAILURE: Gmail tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. The error that the other server returned was: 451 451 Temporary local problem - please try later. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. Thanks for your continued support. (state 14)
[General Topics] mike freegan:
Really? Which one works?
[General Topics] P996:
I ordered a 9502 from Clove and although I paid with an AMEX card, they asked for identification, etc. etc. etc. They told me that my 9502 would ship as soon as they get them in stock again but funny...when I ordered it, it WAS in stock.

So I decided to send them a mail on Monday(from my office) to cancel my order.

I already ordered a 9502 from Expansys, they charge around 50 EUR more but they don't bother me with sending a copy of my credit card via fax, etc. Expansys is also very fast, last time I received my shipment in ONE day(express service).

Since the 9502 seems to be in stock at Expansys(they confirmed my order and that the 9502 is in stock), I expect to receive the 9502 this Monday or maybe Tuesday.

I'm not quite sure I made the right choice, the 9502 seems to be very well build and the VGA display surely is a treat but the memory "leak", the SDHC issue and especially the video driver mystery(does the 9502 have the same issues like the HTC TyTN II or not???) drive me crazy.

In the end, I'm afraid I'm going to end up with the iPhone 2.0(3G version).

So far, I like my Blackberry Curve, my Nokia N95 8GB and the iPhone best.

I also like the Samsung i780 for it's marvelous WM performance but I was very disappointed with the nav support(I bought one of the first units back in February and no nav trial was supplied, most regular programs didn't work without GPSGate).

Maybe HTC has something new and sensational in the pipeline for the next presentation event(soon) but I don't have many hopes. Another hope lies with the Sony Xperia 1.

The 9502 is my last hope for a WM device with decent video performance in the right package.
[General Topics] cushcalc:
Which SDHC patch works?

Yes, please share: which SDHC patch works, and how you've tested to be sure - because I used SDHC.777.cab on my 8502 - seemed to work at first, but errors started to creep in when attempting to read and write, create folders, etc - I was worried that I would totally scramble my 6GB microSD card.
[General Topics] mike freegan:
The low memory is a bit annoying, but despite that I think the 9502 runs perfectly quickly. I guess video and flash content in browser suffers a little, but this is still by far the fastest WM device I have owned and it's the first ROM! I have good info to suggest an update is on its way too fixing the SDHC issue (oddly, I found registry values for SDHC in the 950 already).

I just wish someone would pull their fingers out and make some qualcomm video drivers!

Also, an overclocking app wouldn't go a miss. I remember with the Wizard, the extra 84mhz overclocking gave made all the difference between it being a brick and a monster.
[General Topics] hab:
Hi,

Could someone who owns it and has "played" with it a lot, please tell us how responsive is this device? I am sure the ~30mb of RAM are not that great, but does this actually play any significant role?

Is memory leak present to big extent or the device remains at ~30mb for a long time without soft reseting? I remember similar VGA devices from ETEN which started at ~20mb and after about an hour went down to ~15 making the devices unusable!

Generally how does it feel in terms speed? Comparing to other devices, let's say kaiser or cruise, is it sluggish or at the same levels? Could any of you who have it make a benchmark with spb, sktools or something similar, to see how it compares?

Moreover, I have read some complaints about its battery. Do you believe it is ok or it drains very fast?

Finally, how is its GPS? I have read two comments which say that it has a very bad GPS with very low signal strength. Is this true?

Sorry for my long post, but I am seriously considering of buying this device and these issues concern me a lot...

P.S. I read about a nice trick for releasing 10mb RAM. I have tested it, as I don't own the device, but it looks easy to do and reverse:

http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=97713&st=298
[General Topics] maevro:
Has anyone been able to receive an 9502 from a US retailer? I know most of you guys got yours from Clove, but there are some issues I-Mate is having and getting them into the U.S. and to their distributors.

The usual bulk orders aren't coming in....
[General Topics] schriss:
I have removed some startup programs and now I get ~32MB after reboot.

What's amazing is that after I open programs, settings for the first time, navigating them is then blazing fast! I couldn't scroll that fast on TyTN, the only device that fast was old iPaq running WM2003SE.

Memory goes down but then is freed correctly. When I run some apps I sometimes end with 2-3MB free and all still works, never had a slowdown problem.

I think the device uses ATI hardware acceleration, the file I found in windows is ahi2dati.dll

ATI Handheld Interface 2.07.050110.34681
[General Topics] P996:
This is really strange(or should I say funny): there are already dozends of 9502s in the wild, owners are talking about them, there are owner images and short reviews available but apparently none of the current 9502 owners seem to care about the video performance.

Could a 9502 owner PLEASE test the video performance, for example playing a 200-800 MB Divx file from a microSD card? Or a standard .avi file at the same size?

I still think that the 9502 uses pretty much the same hardware and Qualcomm drivers like the HTC TyTN II but I hope I'm wrong.

With a bit of luck, I'll have my 9502 tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, so I can do my own testing. I'll post the results over here but so far, the Samsung i780 is the fastest WM6 phone I ever tested, video performance is EXTREMELY high(a 800MB sized Divx movie played at a perfect quality without ANY stuttering or sync problems).