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[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Good work bro.

Bro, i dont think theres any point of disabling random google play services. Beacuse not allowed the services drain your battery and some are very important for your phone.

Also you have disabled a services name something persistent. That is the service that keep google play running. So if you disable it, it will run again. And then amplify will again disable it. And it will run again. And i think this will cause conflicts and also more battery will be consumed.

[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] Enlighten us bro. I know you know a lot about these stuff :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
I concur with your recommendation. Limiting most items associated with Google Play Services typically does not lead to better battery endurance and sometimes has the opposite effect. You can also loose functionality in ways that are not immediately obvious. There are are exceptions (eg: location wakelocks) but they need to be addressed on a case-by-case basis. In my experience there are other ways to restrict drains (eg: Greenify) that are more effective with fewer side-effects.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Ok.I understand.

When I disabled these services I expected at force close, reboot, insane drain, etc.

But I didn't have any problem.Services not started again.When I see a problem I will report.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Also only 47 seconds awake at 6h stand-by.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] ferdy_m2000:
Is it normal or no?
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
How much of the guide did you adopted. You shouldn't have adopted suit, right?
[Sony Cross-Device General] ferdy_m2000:
I'm only use amplify, greenify and L speed with OP's setting.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
That's it. If you want more, adopt the rest of the guide to get the most (as of now) out of your battery.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
See you are on 19%. So i can assume that you will have got 30 mins of more SOT. That's around 4 hrs. It's low. But you are also on LTE. I guess you'll get max of 5-6 hrs after following the thread.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
50% :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Which is great! FWIW - I achieve the same effective result (<0.2% idle drain per hour) on a run-of-the-mill Moto G4 Play using AppOPXposed and Greenify with minimal configuration. Full push mail and messaging; location services active. Awake times are many multiples of your numbers but drain is not excessive as device wakes, does its business and quickly falls back asleep. Sometimes we get too wrapped up in tracking/managing minutia (self included!) and overlook the big picture.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Hey bro.

What about freezing some of the apps. ?

What actually freezing app does ? And which apps can be freezed According to you ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
There is not a consistent definition of 'freezing' but typically means disabling the app. Disabling/freezing apps prevents them from running.

I disable/freeze a few oem (pre-installed) apps that I might want later and/or are not readily available. Anything that auto-starts without good reason gets uninstalled.

My list of greenified apps is small. It has to be a proven zombie drainer to get greenified. Otherwise I just let native doze do its thing (with Greenify 'doze on the go' enabled on MM ROMs).

I don't published a list because targeted apps vary by individual. For example Facebook's ridiculous app is the first to go on my devices but is an important tool fo many. Of course there are many other ways to interface with Facebook that are more battery (and privacy) friendly. All depends what you are looking for.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
So, If I freeze an app it won't give me notifications and any sort of wakelock unless I open it manually ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Frozen apps can not be launched/opened until unfrozen.

Dozed/hibernated apps largely behave in the manner you describe with some exceptions. If the app is GCM push enabled (determined by author) it can be woken to to display important notification s or perform a function like receiving mail. Aggressive doze/hibernation typically blocks these behaviors but has other wide-ranging side effects. I find standard doze/hibernation offers a nice balance.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=7322103]dieccast39[/MENTION] read 2-3 above post bro. I dont think freezing apps will be a good idea if its just like diabling the app. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Only Force Doze and Hebf installed.Great idle time but SOT is weaker.I will now uninstall Force Doze and Hebf and try only with new LSpeed beta 3.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Here is my result.

Unfortunately I didn't see any improvement after disabled Google play services in amplify. :(

I got the same results like yesterday or 2 weeks ago.So, it's a way to improve battery life without lost device performance? :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
It's good for now ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Oh, hope it's not too late. Congrats for your new RD title?.

//Off-Topic
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Thanks :)

It's not late :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Yep, in most cases Amplify isn't a silver bullet. What are your goals? Seems like you scored 6+ hours of SoT with limited idle wake time. Hard to identify potential culprits without a proper BBS log.
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
heyyyyyy, congrats!

[MENTION=4865506]Dr. Death[/MENTION] The thread is ready but its closed right now. Keep checking the Z3C Android Development forums :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
CHANGELOG:

The people who have not voted in the thread's poll, Please submit your vote :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Keep up the good work death [emoji1] !

[MENTION=754512]page[/MENTION]t56 settings for L speed has a slight decrease in perfomance or no? I dont want even a 0.1 decrease in perfomance thats why i am asking

Thanks in advance!
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION] Bro, post a bbs logcat following these steps :-

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65025167&postcount=6

then only we'll be able to see potential culprits.

[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION] bro :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Try and see by your self. L Speed changes are not permanent.
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Sure i will try it,itsyour reccomendation !!
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I will post logcat tomorrow because I rebooted device at 86% and bbs stats was reset.

I attached amplify config, If someone can take a look and give me an answer I will appreciate.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
FYI. Although this experience applies to a different device I'm sharing here as a possible 'best practice' for those struggling with rogue battery, sensor, radio or other hardware/kernel related issues. Worth a shot ...

https://xdaforums.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/reboot-vs-power-t3557871
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
Guys a bit off topic but I want to install an app for screen off that you press and you lock the phone instead of double tap is it ok?

Στάλθηκε από το D6503 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Thanks brother :)

What do you want us to check bro from amplify config ?

I dont see a problem there :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Important

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=71077405
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
This means that Lspeed will automatically add build prop lines after boot and we dont have to set them in our own?

And BTW please do tag me when that guy posts a list.
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Yes. That's what it looks like :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I tried LSpeed on N but battery drains kinda of fast.... Dnt know, no other mod except stamina mod in device performance preferred.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
What setup?

Also what version of L Speed?

Stable or beta?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Wi-Fi only?

What theme you use? :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] ferdy_m2000:
OOT: How to restore image enhancement and smart backlight control on my existenz MM. It's dissappear after I flash debloated script by [MENTION=2812949]Dr_Death[/MENTION].

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
You need to find intelligentbacklight in the backup folder
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Guys i need a little help with tweak name in LS. Everyone who have an idea check LS thread

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=71081688
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
v1.4.8 beta 4.... I used tha backup yhu posted and import to LSpeed den restart.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Disable flag tuner and scroll related stuff.
[Sony Cross-Device General] ferdy_m2000:
After that? What should I do?

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Just copy that folder to /system/app
[Sony Cross-Device General] ferdy_m2000:
Thanks mate. It's work.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
I ll try and post feedback..... Thanks!!!
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Anytime ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Seems like we have a lot of improvements on Net speeds :D

Check screenshots

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138/page2572
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
How does it work ? Wow :fingers-crossed: looking forward to using it, since WiFi on z3c is horrible to say the least.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Net TCP ;)

Currently separating option for increasing speeds ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
please dnt hesitate to share tha settings please.... looking forward to it also!

thanks.....
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
yes, wifi only.

theme is the default existenz theme :)

hey bro.

where is the latest beta with these net speed tweaks ? cant find it? not even on play store :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Xda thread ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Really got improved
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Please share on L Speed thread. ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
cant seems to download tha lastest file.... a drive mirror link ll be appreciated
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-materialfbook-minimalist-facebook-t3477896 [MENTION=4865506]Dr. Death[/MENTION] Hey! found this FB app. Have you tried it? I dont know if it saves more battery than Friendly or other clients, but it definitely looks better. (?)

//Off-Topic :how did you get your name in the status bar? (Logan on the top left side??)
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
The battery effect is yet to discover, but memory usage is a huge discount:laugh:

//Set custom carrier name using FSBI.

///Obviously he is a X-men fan:cyclops:

////Off-Topic
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes FSBI xposed module. If you want I can share my backup file so you will just have to change the name and nothing else. Beacuse it took me 15-20 mins to set the status bar like stock (beacuse i like the stock one) and the name on the left hand side.

Telegram me if you want :)

And yes this fb aap I've tried. And I personally like Folio for Facebook Pro.

I was a big fan of Wolverine. I used to talk about him a lot. And after few days my friends started calling me Logan. So that's a nickname bro :) :D
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
No big deal bro, I got called Anakin sometimes too.

//Seriously Off-Topic:silly:
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Ok ... My post was mostly off topic. Don't worry.... Logan.... ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Where is latest l speed please: found it just didn't know if the one posted 6 hours ago was the same as the one posted an hour ago that's all
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
For some reason my WhatsApp doesn't notify me I don't know I've had a message unless I go onto the app,is that because it is greenified?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Dont Greenify's whatsapp or any messaging app.

Also add it in the whitelist of the doze app you are using. :)

//Press thanks if it helped
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
So white list apps in l speed doze?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Here is my results.

I did a mistake when I disabled Google play services in amplify, I will revert at old settings.:)

Also I will try L speed (even if this application decrease device performance).

I attached bbs log.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes.

[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] take a look at this bro. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Correct?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Result with L Speed or without?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes bro.

Afaik without Lspeed. Beacuse with Lspeed's there was a slight decrement in benchmark scores, so [MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION] doesn't use it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
BBS log does not provide much useful information due to mixed use during sampling period. However, BBS is not a particularly good tool for assessing performance tweaks. Better to go with a more targeted tools (eg: Speedtest app for evaluating upload/download speeds) or general observation. Not a fan of tweaking for the sake of tweaking.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Idk why people follow bench scores... So useless.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
100% agree!
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Today I will try with L speed.:)

Awake time seems to be improved.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Good ;)
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
So I installed gree nify with [MENTION=1125726]Dr Death[/MENTION] settings, amplify and L speed with AXaidyi settings and my battery is not good I don't know what's wrong!!

I am on pure X rom

Edit: also I installed appops from Xposed for the Google play services drain but I have drain
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Please provide:

1. BBS stats.

2. System battery stats.

//Mind your spelling:silly:
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
My result with L speed.

Unfortunately I didn't see any improvement, I'm disappointed.:(

Tomorrow I will try without any battery saver application (no Greenify,no amplify, no L speed,etc).

If I get around 6h SOT, I will give up at these applications....
[Sony Cross-Device General] dieccast39:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fq5smsfoc2smj6z/BetterBatteryStats-2017-02-20_000606348 (1).txt?dl=0
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
What version of L Speed you have installed?
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
1. Disabled Wi-Fi when screen off in ForceDoze.

2. Disable Wi-Fi auto searching in system settings.

3. Hibernate FB Messenger.

4. Reduce screen brightness.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Use HEBF for fixing the Google Play Services Drain.

1.Use HEBF for fixing the Google Play Services Drain.

2.Hibernate More Apps.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I used v 1.8.4 alpha 18 February release with balanced settings.

---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 AM ----------

I don't have Google play services drain.:)

I want to improve battery life,but I think the only way is to put a bigger battery.:laugh:

Today I will try without any battery saver, tomorrow I will try with L speed on battery profile.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Can't comment on the suggested cocktail of tools and settings - successful configurations are highly app/device/user specific. What works for one may prove detremental for others. Figure out what is keeping your device awake and go after those; leave everything else alone. L-Speed and similar tweaking utilities can make modest improvements in targeted areas but are not a panacea for radically improving performance or battery life.

Fiddling with permissions in AppOpsXposed is not a reliable way to rein in Google Play Services drain. If it were that simple others would have done it long ago.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Without any battery saver application.

I didn't expected at 7h SOT.

Awake time is high but SOT is better.

So...I don't understand :confused: without any battery saver application I get more than yesterday...

Tomorrow I will try with L speed (last alpha version) on battery profile.:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Beta 5 is on play ;)

Try with this setup :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Beta 5 is better than this?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Yes, it is :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Ok, thank you.:)

I will try.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Well...been saying that for awhile. Not anti-tweak, just pro-evidence. YMMV :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Only mobile data.

I think it's good :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
With L Speed setup i provided?
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
ehhhh.... Its good, but I really don't think you can calculate battery that way. You may get only 15 mins or SOT from 90-80 or 45 mins... Who knows ? :confused:

If you really want to calculate that way, then in build.prop, change ro.build.type=user to ro.build.type=userdebug

You will get inaccurate calculations for the 1st battery cycle, but you can easily calculate after that :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I don't understand very well what you said. :confused:

Battery drained from 100% to 90% in 45min.

I used phone on Tapatalk.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Go to Build.prop or download build.prop editor from plays store.

Change ro.build.type=user

to

ro.build.type=userdebug

[MENTION=6948461]panzerox123[/MENTION] can you explain how can this accurate battery level value ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
The battery use percentage what android shows you is not accurate. It is simply an average of the data it calculates using a list of preexisting values. For example, in the list, amount of power lost for WiFi ON maybe 10mah. So the system calculates data using this value. If WiFi is on for 5 hours, itll calculate 5x10mah= 50mah of total battery used.

But lets say you go and sit in another room where wifi signal is bad, then the WiFi actually uses 30mah of battery, but android calculates it as 10 mah.

So in userdebug mode, android takes actual battery used by different components, instead of following the predefined list, and displays a more accurate result. :)

But this also does not have anything to do with increasing battery life.

P.S. For the first few charge cycles, you may see a drain called Miscellaneous on the top of the battery charts. But that is not actually draining your battery, its just calibrating the battery to work properly with actual values
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=6891123]iXaidyiu[/MENTION] OP2 bro :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Very useful information.:)

My battery don't drain constantly.

So from 100 to 90% drain fast, from 67 to 62 same problem, 14 to 6 drain very fast but from 6 to 2 drain very slow.I tried a calibration but problem still persist.Is not a big problem but is annoying.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
ro.build.type=userdebug.

I will reboot phone when battery reach 1 %
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
After set ro.build.type= userdebug, battery drain fast :(

I didn't perform reboot.Can this modification in build.prop has effect without reboot? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Nope, you have to reboot.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
So, why it's draining fast? I've lost 10% in around 20 minutes..:mad:

I didn't have this problem before...:(
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Idk, im always watching my wakelocks, apps which i use, and i have just what i need in the device.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I don't use many applications and I didn't install any application recently..
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Usually "Android os" don't reach more than 2-3% now is 7%.

Battery still draining fast
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Why don't you reboot your device ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Now I will perform reboot.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Look at this :confused::(:mad:
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Read my post
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Yes I readed it... it's normal behaviour.

L speed decrease seriously performance (on battery profile)
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Deleted
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Dont always trust benchmark scores. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
It scares me how obsessed with SOT xD [MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION] are you seriously running benchmarks after every tweak :eek:
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
In my opinion benchmark reflect performance

Antutu don't lie :laugh:
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
I'm not obsessed with SOT :laugh:

I don't running benchmarks after every tweak but is a big difference between L speed and no L speed
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
They reflect performance only when run in a defined condition :) If you apply battery mod on LSpeed, isnt performance reduce expected :confused: I think lspedd is doing its job correctly. 50000 on Antutu isnt a bad score, unless you compare it to today's devices.

Hehe and dont worry, I was joking about the SOT obsession... We have [MENTION=4865506]Dr. Death[/MENTION] for that :D
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Thank you (I can't press thank button)

So after full charge cycle battery status will revert at normal? Or after few cycle?
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Mine has always give accurate reading then as I haven't changed it
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Give it a few cycles. And a plus point, go to developer options and look for Multi-Window mode... its enabled now ;) (But probably buggy on existenz idk)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Multi window is disable. Must be enable?
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Yes, if you want it only.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Enabled
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
You must to sacrifice something :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
What is with and what's without? ;)

If there is anything buggy, report ;)

Btw, i released new alpha today, i hope you are using it :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Sure :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Difference between benchmark score.

So, what is the best version of L Speed?

Latest alpha or latest beta?

Currently I use latest beta version from Google play store.

Today I will try with L speed (this time on balanced profile) + Amplify (to limit wakelocks).:)
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
I think he was asking about the benchmark results :)

[MENTION=4865506]Dr. Death[/MENTION] , went back to AOXP after eXistenZ gave me hard time with battery. I got max 3-4 hrs of SOT with everything on this thread enabled too.

To be very honest, even 3-4 hrs is great compared to other devices. On my brother's Moto G2, he barely gets 2 hrs of SOT, even on the Moto g4 plus, they get 2.5 hrs max, even with a bigger battery. So I think it is important to realise how many optimisations sony has done to achieve this kind of battery life ;)

These are some of the build.prop commands Ive used in my ROM to increase battery life:

ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000 (This command will break tethering, so be careful)
ro.ril.power_collapse=1
pm.sleep_mode=1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000
ro.config.nocheckin=1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
debug.performance.tuning=1 (This command improves performance)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
You tried stock rom?

Compared with existenz, stock rom is very good for battery and performance, but existenz have more features and UI customisation
[Sony Cross-Device General] panzerox123:
Nah, went back to my rom. I get a minimum of 6 hrs sot there.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
L speed balanced profile :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Half of them doesn't work :)

Good :)