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[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Well, I have been through the subjective nature of SoT assessments so won't bash a dead horse there. Few of the traditional power saving tools will help extend wake time unless you have an app with crazy amounts of background activity (looking at you POS facebook) or over active radios/sensors. In those cases a different kernel or app like Greenify can be helpful.

Some of the more effective SoT strategies involve managing panel brightness and govonor tuning which can provide *some* marginal relief after everything else has been ruled out. Killing radios in low signal strength environments and disabling location services can also help. In the end most ROMs have a similar power envelope assuming all device specific binaries are present and functioning. It's the 'value added' apps and services a specific ROM brings to the table that make the difference. Most of those can be duplicated with Xposed modules or other apps.

Keep in mind a particular brightness setting (eg: 25%) can yield significantly different lumen levels on various ROMs and kernels. Big, high density panels are the #1 consumer of juice in all but the most demanding situations. A 5% reduction in lumens can yield a 20% drop in power draw depending on panel.
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Stock Samsung nougat isn't bad at all this is with games played although I was expecting higher from such a big battery
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Its Samsung bro ?? don't expect much.
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Sony aren't much better for battery z3 went rubbish on marshmallow, was excellent on lollipop though ??
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Sigh - most MM ROMs are significantly more power efficient than Lollipop equivalents. More likely bloatware and/or mising device specific binaries (common issue with custom ROMs) are behind the drain. A BBS study will reveal the culprits.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION]

Can you tell me if you see something weird in this BBS log? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Not going to spend much time looking given 0.2%/hr average drain and 4 min wake time over 9½+ hours. Those are excellent numbers that reflect a healthy MM config going about its business. Unless you are experiencing some other issue that warrents attention it's time to move on.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Thanks, I use grennify + force doze. 4 minutes awake without using Amplify :laugh:, with amplify I didn't have more than 1-2 minutes ;).I have a lot of alarms, especially from gms but idle drain is low.:eek:
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
As previously mentioned I pay little attention to idle wake time (I only mention it in posts because others are obsessed with this metric). Same for alarms/wakelocks. In a typical day I have dozens of the former and thousands of the latter with 0.1-0.2%/hr idle drain. On practical terms drain rate is all that matters unless there is another behavior of concern: not waking, missing notifications, lag, etc.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
You should be happy for your results bro. GO out, party, take photos and chill. :):D
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Battery life on Resurrection Remix ROM Nougat. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Only on Wi-Fi?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Yes most of time. Mobile data for 10 mins.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Dendis:
What the hell is wrong? ??

STOCK LOS latest build.

Greenify,forcedoze,lspeed.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Dendis:
Betterbatterystats showing wrong info, but that ForceDozeTempWakelock always kills my battery
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Too many tools with no data to justify their combined use. Uninstall ForceDoze and Greenify plus disable any LSpeed doze/sleep tweaks. Then establish a baseline with native LinOS. You might be surprised and pleased what Android 7.1 based ROMs can do without any help.

Also consider using GSam to get an accurate, high level overview of your device's power profile. BBS seems to having difficulty on various Nougat builds. Root cause TBD.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Dendis:
I think so too, deleted forcedoze and lspeed, will test.
[Sony Cross-Device General] drorcun:
i agree, i'm on lineage os for z3c, only with greenify and leandroid..

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[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
What i have noticed is that the SOT on LOS or RR with normal usage is pretty good. But the idle battery time is not that good. Like in the initial days of installation, the battery used to get drained about 3-4% overnight. So then i installed force doze and l speed (on battery governor ) now its okay. No problem here with idle battery time and the avg sot is also around 6 hrs.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Is this crazy or what:silly:
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Whaaaaat :eek:

What you did? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Dendis:
Airplane mode :D
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Nothing bro...just RR with only pico gapps and with battery profile and only force doze app.

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Yes but with mobile signal on i still get 5h until i reach 50%.I never had this good battery time on AOSP/CM/LOS based roms...this beat stock by i huge.And i don't have any problems with gms or location.Only with phone gps location lock is twice faster then on stock.And camera is much better then before...that is big plus.I wait update and i see how it goes.But for now i don't want to back on stock and existenz...and this is first time believe me.On many devices i use RR and now it's best.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
You might be reading a lot. Or just leaving the phone on for a lot of time ?

But if your are getting this much screen on time without doing all these, then it's truly insane :)

I get around 3 hours till 50% on normal usage. That's good :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I watch one movie that i first download it because i here have wifi that used many people.And when i watch online full movie it breaks on half becuse unstable wifi.But i use xda app a lot and browsing and youtube.I have same usage pattern's like before.I didn't reboot device from 100% and i confused believe me.I test best ARISE profiles this days and i reboot my phone constantly. Then i notice from full charge i rebooty phone more then 5-6 times and i get 5+h just like that.So i get this when i normaly use it and no experiments with mods.

I will go to work for 8h phone will be on idle...and when i came back i use it until i discharge it and i will post screenshot.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
"Battery Saving Mode", not really surprised:silly::silly::silly:
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Yep - magic available here and in several other ROMs. Just need to turn it on.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
You mean the power save option?
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Battery saving profile, yes.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Yes...see in screenshot.Great option and there no lag or performance degrading.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Complete discharged and great battery life with RR:good:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
With powersave animations are gone and then no background data. So, performance is degraded.
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Turn off "Extreme Power Saver", animations will be back.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
I don't use extreme power saver bro.Only power saver profile...i have animations and all.This is most similar to stamina performance preferred in existenz.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Why does it says disable animation?
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
Yes....i see that to in my settings...but animations are ON not OFF.Maybe it's modified becuse it's RR...i don't know...but it does the job pretty well:laugh:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Paget96:
Need new option testing.

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed/testing-restrict-t3602301

Few more to come, probably today ^^

IF you want more options and also have a suggestions, write them here:

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed/unofficial-l-speed-feature-suggestions-t3557349
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
Not even half !!

Hi Guys,

I can see that this thread did wonders to many of you guys. But all I can do is just sit and wonder how come this is working out only for you guys. I cant even get even the half of the battery life that you are getting. Can you please help me out with what's fundamentally wrong. Lemme tell you everything in detail. I own a xperia Z2 device D6502 ( 2 years old ) . I am running with the Mx Rom Version 8.6 with xposed installed.

I have tried with the Greenify + Xposed with the given settings. All I could get is nothing but the same stock battery time not even an improvement. I had location service , wifi scanning , adaptive brightness turned off . I dont know what the hell is happening. Please look into my list of apps and the power consumption. I didn't try that google play services freeze as it didn't come in the power consuming apps list. I charged to 100% and it was fine till 88% with the SOT of 45 mins ( This is actually better than the stock ) . Suddenly there was rapid power drain like 10 % in 5 mins. Look at the difference. 12% drain in 45 mins and 10 % in 5 mins . From then it is being terrible. Please help :(:(:(
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
[MENTION=5944041]naveenes[/MENTION]

IMO no matter how you tweak MX ROM the battery life cannot still be sh**ty.

So what am I suggesting here is that you should try eXistenZ ROM or stock ROM and apply the suggestions as mentioned in OP. Till then you should see a boost in terms of battery life.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
My suggestion is to flash latest MM ftf via flashtool with full wipe(even internal storage).Then root it and install recovery again ,if you have unlocked bootloader then flash Elite kernel via fastboot and install existenz rom.Existenz has advanced stamina mod(I don't know for MX ROM,but I think that it has stock stamina that is useless in my opinion). I get 5+ h SOT with only stamina set to performance preferred profile.And then you will see is your battery bad or some other thing or app.But believe me not all battery saving app will help you...some of them will conflict with oder.Try this and write here again.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=5944041]naveenes[/MENTION]

Bro, post a BBS log. That will be more helpful to find the culprit.

1. Download BBS latest version from xda.

2. Charge your phone to 100%.

3. Leave it for 7-8 hrs (without using) the screen should not be in for more that 2-3 min.

4. Save the log and post it here.

Google how to take a BBS log property. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
LSpeed keeps loading everything even without restart.... had to uninstall!
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Nonlinear or sudden, unexplained dropoffs are the hallmarks of a tired battery further supported by the reported device age. Flashing different kernels, roms and twidding knobs will get you nowhere if the battery is toast.
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
[MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION] [MENTION=5373858]maxxx83[/MENTION] [MENTION=6891123]iXaidyiu[/MENTION] Thanks a lot guys... Will check each one of your suggestions and will get back.

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@Davey126 Is there any way to find if the battery is out.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Your device is already providing the evidence. If you want a more definitive test acquire a USB charge meter (example), fully discharge battery and then see if it accepts at least 80% of the rated capacity while recharging. Even if takes a full charge it does not guarantee a linear discharge if the internal structures are starting to break down which is common as Li-Ion batteries age. Note a USB meter can also identify bad cables and chargers which are more prevent than most think. Swapping cables/chargers won't fix your rapid drain problem but could reduce the time needed for recharges. Good luck.
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
Thanks Mate!
[Sony Cross-Device General] nri_tech1183:
I have observed some xposed modules do drain lot of battery.

M on existenz-marshmallow rom on D6653

I think gravitybox does it along with android theme engine, serajar xperia home etc.

If anybody using these report here their experiences.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
lol - I have used GravityBox for years on multiple devices running multiple ROMS from 4.4.x to 6.x. Never experienced a drain issue associated with GB which is not surprising given what functions GB performs and how they are executed. Please don't feed the FUD machine with unsubstantiated FUD.

Theme engines are a different story as they have a long history of triggering device instability which can result in high CPU and corresponding battery drain. Launchers are another potential source although really not an issue among the more mature offerings.

Xposed is a powerful framework with few checks on irresponsibility. If you ask it to do stupid things it will typically comply without protest and take your device and battery with it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] nri_tech1183:
I doubted on GB coz existenz rom incl. some functionalities of GB so I think reactivating same settings might trigger battery drain.
[Sony Cross-Device General] justjr:
GB specifically tells you to use it only on pure AOSP android, and will conflict if your ROM have similar functions, in that case if you are using it is on your own.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
GB does not run any background services and will not trigger runaway activity if used on a non-AOSP based ROM. In most cases direct conflicts result in the ROM settings taking preference. In some rare instances conflicts could yield a boot loop or stall but that's easily resolved by temporarily disabling Xposed from a recovery environment. Note that last statement applies to ANY Xposed module. I have used GB sucessfully with CM/LOS, RR, SlimLP and the stock ROM on every device I have owned (Android 4.4.x-6.0). Not all functions work on non-AOSP ROMs but never experienced increased battery drain due to a conflict or other trigger.
[Sony Cross-Device General] justjr:
Yeah [MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] thanks for clarifying your experience, for what that matter, I never said battery drain.

edit.: I also used it on CM/LOS without problem
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
[MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION] Bro , look into the BBS screenshots. I dont know whether this is right.. I am attaching all the screenshots and files. Please look into it and let me know. Thanks!
[Sony Cross-Device General] iXaidyiu:
Do you have HEBF installed and activated? If not, do so now. Your Google Play Service need to be controlled.
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
I dont have it installed and activated. I will do it now. Thanks bro!
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] have a look here bro.

com.google.android.gms (): Wakeups: 166 (21.5 / h)

Alarms: 132, Intent: com.google.android.location.ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY_DETECTION

Alarms: 0, Intent: com.google.android.gms/.lockbox.LockboxAlarmReceiver

Alarms: 0, Intent: com.google.android.gms.tron.ALARM

Alarms: 15, Intent: com.google.android.intent.action.GCM_RECONNECT

Alarms: 5, Intent: com.google.android.gms/.checkin.EventLogServiceReceiver

Alarms: 5, Intent: CONTEXT_MANAGER_ALARM_WAKEUP_1888123

Alarms: 5

I think the google play services are running wild.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
I respectfully disagree with this recommendation as there is no evidence in the provided logs that Google Play Services is contributing to excessive (operative word) wake time and/or battery drain. Alarms (and wakelocks) are not evil; it is the actions taken in response that need to be assessed. Nothing in the bbs log suggests the device or Google Services are behaving abnormally. Actually just the opposite. Idle rundown rate is quite reasonable for a battery that has likely seen many charge/discharge cycles.

Are there fringe items that could be improved? Sure (eg: quiet motion sensors, dump power sapping estrong apps running on background, etc). Will the use of HEBF to squash Google Play Services reduce the number of alarms? Probably. Will that lead to significantly improved battery life and unwanted/bizarre​ side-effects that often do not immediately manifest themselves? Probably not and probably so, respectfully. Choose your poison wisely.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
Hahahah. I really love your writing skills bro. :)

Guess I need to work more on reading BBS logs.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Comes from a sibling and a two grown kids (yep, I am old) that take great pride in publicly disassembling any argument that is not well presented. My defense is to behave like a verbal blow fish to conceal the punny brain. :)

Poor humor aside, always seek solid cause-effect relationships and avoid the temptation to react to symptoms. Easier said than done, especially when the former is not easy to identify. I have chased many a red herring over the years, and still do with disturbing frequency. Lots of "D'oh!!" moments.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Sorry for my curiosity but where are you from(country) ? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Currently reside in the US (Notheast).
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
[MENTION=4865506]Bewildered Wolf[/MENTION] [MENTION=6891123]iXaidyiu[/MENTION] [MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] These are the BBS log after installing and activating HEBF and selecting Google play services master (drain) fix and restarted. So the reference started from boot. I dont see any change in the battery as well the BBS log itself. Please let me know what else I can do it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
This is not a BBS log; it's a bunch of mixed use screen shots from which little can be derived. Need a proper idle log (6+ hours with no activity; <1 min SOT) as a minimum baseline.

Responded to this before (here). No evidence of excess Google Services activity and a mid-life battery that isn't going to behave like a spring chicken. Original drain rate was quite reasonable. Enjoy your device for what it is.
[Sony Cross-Device General] naveenes:
Ok Thanks! Will update with proper log. If nothing can be done , i will enjoy for what it is.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION] what battery tweaks pr apps you use. I somewhere read on this thread, that you don't use many apps. I want to try that too.
[Sony Cross-Device General] tanago:
guys, any way to lower job.deadline & job.delay alarms count on Android 7? I have 1.5 per MINUTE
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
- Greenify for 'doze on the go' and to quiet a *few* rogue apps (not everything)

- MyAndroidTools app and Xposed modules for receiver/service management

- SD Maid for general flexibility, app insight and easy receiver management

- AppOpsXposed for app permissions insight (I don't make many changes)

- BBS, GSAM and WLD for their respective strengths...all in passive mode

- EKKM for govonor/scheduler selection and tunings derived from L Speed

There is considerable functional overlap in the above suite but different looks help clarify activity and drive actions if needed. In most cases nothing needs to be done. I purchase the pro versions and/or make donations for all tools to express appreciation and support ongoing development.

I subscribe to the 80/20 (ideally 95/5) rule where 'good enough' is satisfactory if it meets objectives; extreme optimization is not part of the play book. Any change from defaults/stock must be backed by observation and reproducible on the target device. Benefit(s) must be large enough to justify action.

Xposed availability​ limits ROM selection to Android 6 or lower. I prefer stock or AOSP when possible. Nougat does a pretty good job out of the box with only a few tweaks. If Android 8.x improves on that I may make the jump and abandon most of the above suite. Ultimate goal is to use my devices...not manage them.

KISS and DFWI (loosely translated: "don't mess with it") are guiding principals.

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Why - just because?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bewildered Wolf:
[MENTION=5488402]Davey126[/MENTION]

Would you be more specific on the working of SD maid.

I once installed it clear corpse files and deleted my 1.9 gb private folder on my screenshots and photos. Bad experience.

And what is EKKM , enlighten on this topic ?

Also can you list some apps which you have greenified.

As earlier I've greenified all the apps (most) but now I'm thinking of ungreenifing them.

Also thank you for your elaborated post.
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
- EXKM (typo; sorry) = EX Kernel Manager which is similar to Kernel Adiutor

- Sorry to hear of bad experience with SD Maid; powerful tool if misused. Look under AppControl for tools related to (wait for it...) App Control. You'll need to enable System-Apps in settings if you want to include those. Keep in mind SD Maid (and MyAndroidTools) will do exactly what you ask...generally without warning. Can easily trash your device with a single tap if not careful.

- There is no point in identifying Greenified apps as your portfolio will almost certainly differ from mine. I only Greenify items that run in the background and significantly contribute to screen off drain as reported by Android/BBS/GSAM/WLD. Most apps are well contained by doze; Greenify list is typically short on MM+ ROMs.

- Screen-on app abuse is a different matter and is typically managed by disabling freezing (preferably uninstalling) app or disabling broadcast receivers; MyAndroidTools can help with the latter; SD Maid offers a friendlier default view (does some intelligent filtering)

- Some apps (especially Google Properties) will periodically reenable their broadcast receivers including on reboot (grr...!). MyAndroidTools Xposed can deal with this; Nougat users must get a whole lot more creative to permanently squelch receivers (programming background helpful).

Remember - let data from *your* device guide actions. A generic Rx posted in some forum probably won't work as advertised. Same for vast majority of all purpose 'fix-it' apps discussed in this thread and elsewhere. Over time most people learn this the hard way after countless hours of tinkering, a few borked ROMs and battery endurance not much different than when they started with a virgin device 10 min out of the shipping box. KISS and DFWI unless absolutely necessary.
[Sony Cross-Device General] cristixperia:
Elite kernel.

Used kernel adiutor for undervolting.

Most time on Wi-Fi.

In similar conditions I can reach 6h SOT with stock kernel , so in my opinion Uv is not a efficient way to save the battery.

Back to stock kernel now :p
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Custom kernels rarely make a significant difference on modern devices which have been optimized for power management. Can't do much to mitigate drain from screens and radios which are typically the biggest hardware consumers.
[Sony Cross-Device General] maxxx83:
[MENTION=7914246]cristixperia[/MENTION] You use existenz right?Did you lose recovery when you flash stock kernel and drm fix or this is only with old existenz old V2?

And did you try ARISE Magnum Opus sound mod on existenz rom?
[Sony Cross-Device General] justjr:
Problem is for sure not the UV, but other parts of kernel and/or its configs.
[Sony Cross-Device General] whalesplaho:
Can yhu post yur setup for EXKM please???
[Sony Cross-Device General] DB126:
Makes no sense. Different devices, SOCs, ROMs, app suite, etc. Use L Speed for a (somewhat) customized govonor and/or scheduler config.