yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
HKLM\\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID\;key or value path

HKLM\\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID\Dll;data

HKLM\\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\AGPSNVSetting;value name

HKLM\\Drivers\Active\50\Key;data

HKLM\\Drivers\Active\51\Key;data

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_040E;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0418;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0816;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0405;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0809;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0415;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0409;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0408;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_041F;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_0413;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsSaveFolder_041B;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsPrefixString;value name

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\GpsPrefixString;data

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\Recparam\3GPSmall\;key or value path

HKLM\\Software\HTC\Camera\General\MaximalGPSInitialTime;value name

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS_CHIP;value name Data ---> 0

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS_TESTMODE;value nam Data ---> 4294967295

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\OldLogFile;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\CurrentLogFile;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\CurrentDriver;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOnePort\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOnePort\FriendlyName;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneEmulate\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneEmulate\Filex;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneEmulate\FriendlyName;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice\FriendlyName;data

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice\;key or value path

HKLM\\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice\Dll;data

HKLM\\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\;key or value path

HKLM\\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\EnableAGPS;value name Data ---> 0

HKLM\\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\GPSMode;value name Data ---> 0

HKLM\\Services\GPSDaemonService\;key or value path

HKLM\\Services\GPSDaemonService\Description;data

HKLM\\Services\GPSDaemonService\DisplayName;data

HKLM\\Services\GPSDaemonService\Dll;data

This is the Registry Search from my S730 Prod. Model

Maybe you guys can do something with it.
[HTC Wings] Dumdidum:
Just got a Pre-Production Model and....... Got a GPS-Fix :-)

COM4...

But this ROM ist very unstable. But dont want to update, dont know if I will loose the GPS :-)

Would be a nice test, if it's Hardware or Software-Related... but got no balls :-p
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
Shouldnt you be able to make a backup of your current Pre Prod rom and then do the update? That way if you do lose GPS you can just roll back to the current one.
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
More importantly Dumdidum should dump the radio.
[HTC Wings] Dumdidum:
Tell me how exactly and you get it...

Google maps is working too with GPS on my device
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=359015
[HTC Wings] bigflavor:
Dumdidum, please do us a favor and install the Microsoft GPS Intermediary Driver config utility (it's released by Microsoft), and run it to see what the hardware COM port is.
[HTC Wings] asimolo76:
see also

http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=262074&pid=859199&mode=threaded&start=

help us ?
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
Just Contacted HTC about the GPS function on the S730 and this is what they say::(:(:mad:

Good Morning

As far as I am aware the processor in the S730 has a GPS feature built into the phone as standard but the phone does not contain gps antenna therefore it would not pick up a signal.

Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Best regards,

Peter Baker

HTC Europe

callservice@htceurope.com

http://www.htc.com
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Conflicting information from HTC. I was told that the hardware for the pre-production and post production was the same.
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
I'm going to e-mail them again ;)

E-mail sent !
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
It is normal. I have received the information from "company tech experts" with zero validity already. Well, after returning from my holidays and checking the forums, it sounds me good the info that "week GPS" signal on COM4 is in different format comparing to working s730 = no antenna but SW problem (I hope :D)
[HTC Wings] bigflavor:
Thanks for the sharing. This is just a program to configure the GPSID. Microsoft already has a program.

Also, if the internal GPS is live (regardless of if it has an antenna) you should be able to "bridge" it using the GPSID configuration tool. Shoot the moon. You'll quickly see there is no device on any COM port. Therefore it's not configured. I'm skeptical about the antenna missing. Do GPS chips even need an antenna? :) Regardless, we need to make sure the device is actually installed and configured (in the system, aka drivers) before we go swallowing these claims willy-nilly.

Yes, I just used willy-nilly.
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
Qualcomm MSM 7200

I emailed Qualcomm a few days ago asking them if the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chip needs an antena or if its built in. No reply, maybe someone else can mail them as well.
[HTC Wings] asimolo76:
send email htc

I have send email to htc support ..... i'm waiting for the replay ......
[HTC Wings] Alcaline:
Isnt this problem as simple as just loading a pre production rom on to a production modell, and se if GPS works?
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Yes, but for that I believe that we need a RUU from HTC.
[HTC Wings] BugBoy:
My S730 died yesterday, so it will probably be opened to find out what happened. I willt try to make some pictures of the inside.
[HTC Wings] pcmann2004:
gps

hey there,

i have a t mobile wing from htc

i really dont know what its model num is,

it is loaded with wm6 i read that this phone has no gps, external needed.

can someone confirm that this phone has no gps hardware what so ever, if it does how would i be able to access and use it with google maps or pocket maps

sry for the noob quest

thanx
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
BugBoy - super and thank you! Do you have production model? If yes, than wee have to wait also for the prepro model.

What is also important. I know that for the first time you could make the wrong steps during disassembling. But after the opening the device it is clear how to do it in better way next time. So, based on this experience try to describe the proper way of disassembling the s730.

Maybe it will help to you - the manual for s710.

http://michael-channon.spaces.live....gPart&partqs=cat=Download+HTC+Service+Manuals

Thanks a lot

regards

R.
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
This is the answer I got from HTC Europe And US,

Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about the gps in the s730

As my collegue said, there is no GPS antena built in the model. You will need to get one of those in order to use the GPS function.

Also you need to get a satelite navigator software.

Hope this will answer you question but feel free to contact us using the following ref.: 080117EM23140024

Should you have any other query, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at: http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Kind Regards,

Daniel Villa A

HTC Data Support Engineer

callservice@htceurope.com - HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
[HTC Wings] jockyw2001:
Good to know, but are we absolutely sure? :D
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Maybe you can use their offer and put a question, how antenna looks like and where has to be connected :-).
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Hi Moneytoo. Is anything new? Did you try to ask him for service manual (if exist) for s730 (or for Kaiser (antenna and position)?
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
Only 1 way to find out right??
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
@ Rooomish

E-Mail sent :-)
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
Still sounds a little weird to me that they would take the extra time and money to take the antena off of these chips when they are the same as on the other device.
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
yeah deff. mail back and ask for more info, ie where to find anten, manual etc.
[HTC Wings] shadow2000:
Damn i'd like to hear something new about this thread :cool:
[HTC Wings] joy.d:
hehe :-) how not?
[HTC Wings] qumran:
The discussion continues here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361322
[HTC Wings] Bohica84:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning your HTC S730 device.

We are sorry to hear that you are having problems with your device.? As we do not support GPS on this device, we can not tell you how to connect the GPS antenna to it.? Please contact HYPERLINK "file://www.expansys.com"www.expansys.com and HYPERLINK "file://www.tomtom.com"www.tomtom.com for further help.

Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Best regards,

Freyja

HTC Support

callservice@htceurope.com

http://www.htc.com
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
mm

Im not even sure that anyone is actually talking to HTC. Iv also tried to make some sense of stuff through emails to them.

Got a reply from HTC and later got a reply about a ticket being closed from @support.wdsglobal.com. Seems to me they are using a compay to handle there support so all we'll probably get is the text book reply from them all the time.

oh well my 2 cents for today...
[HTC Wings] jkiller122:
does anybody know how to activate a gps on the t-mobile wing
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
Hmm, if its not enabled by default from the manufacturer then its not likely anyone here (unless they have the handset or one similar) will be able to help. The T-Mobile Wing forum might know if there is a way.

If it comes enabled on the chip then you just need a program to turn it on (usually comes on the phones?) or you can download GPS-Test for free. Load it up and when you have a good lock you can fire up google maps or something similar.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Not actively. We have been waiting here for someone who has the preproduction model. Do you know anybody?
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Not personally. There are a few that have the pre-production model, but I believe that they do not know how to extract the rom.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=308305&page=5

Post #46

Looks like this might be a dumped rom. Waiting to hear any news!?
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Yes, but MIGHT be. Just now, I tried to ask the author of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTHO86--VHM

for rom dumping.

(by the way - nice video)

We will see :-/
[HTC Wings] 10332007:
Yeah thats the blogger but the post is gone :(

I wonder if we could just get the drivers for the GPS instead of doing a whole reflash...thats was the issue seems like to me, WM6 knows its there and such but doesnt have the right drivers to make it work. (my guess from the computer world. Phones are diff though so it might not be the same idea.)
[HTC Wings] mykie:
Mine idea is, the chip and rom is working but the chip has no antenna.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Check out the link in my post from 9:04 am.

Check out post #17 from:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=341951&page=2

This is dated Nov 30th...could it be a pre-production rom?
[HTC Wings] mykie:
How could we find out?
[HTC Wings] solvang:
Another Wings-owner signing in...

Hi guys (and gals?)

Just got my retail S730, love the phone as it is but would really like the GPS up and running.

Have been following the testing and discussion here, and would like to help.

1. If someone gave me clear instructions (or better, a service manual), I could open my phone to check for a GPS-antenna.

2. Somewhere (I HAVE been searching, but cant find it again) I found someone naming some .DLLs which were some kind of drivers for the GPS-unit (from the Kaiser?). Anyone have any ideas?

regards,
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Ad registry: Try jockyw instruction.

**First check if the Qualcomm GPS driver is loaded (GPSID_QCT.dll). See if the file is there and check registry. See here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1580520&postcount=35

**

Pls, write here the results

Ad antenna:

It is also posible, that antenna is not missing - that is only "disconnected" by software (maybe on some preamplifier stage?).

That is why we have to check both: prepro HTC or Kaiser (to know, how antenna looks like and where is it connected - and open postpro model - if antenna exist or not.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Well, if the GPSID_QCT.dll file is supposed to be in the windows folder...it is not. The only file I found was gpstmc.dll. Where do I get the GPSID_QCT.dll file?
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
This file exists in Kaiser. If other registry are ok, please ask somebody on Kaiser forum to upload this file - Sorry I have not time to do it now. Thanks for checking!!
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
yeap

My S730 does not have 1 file in it that starts with GPS, so im woundering if this is just a driver problem maybe.

I have the same GPSID_QCT.dll reference in the registry but i cannot find it any where. Def. not in the windows folder anyway.
[HTC Wings] C@SP:
I asked a friend who owns a Kaiser to send me the file. As soon as I have it, I will upload it.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
THANKS!!!!!!!!
[HTC Wings] Georgo10:
I found files gpsid.dll and gpsid_qct.dll in Windows folder in my S730 (watching Windows folder by Total Commander).
[HTC Wings] madferret:
Yeah, I've got those on my (UK) production model too. And these:

gpsapi.dll

gpsapiext.dll

GpsDaemonService.dll

GpsSecurity.dll

Like others, I can 'start' GPS but get no effective response.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
That is why it is important test to use the GPSID_QCT.dll file on s730. It seems to me strange, that registry refer to file which is missing. Do not forget that Kaiser (that use this driver) has the same chipset and working GPS. Maybe it is not the solution - but we have to check also this possibility.

Try it somebody for us (put this file on !!correct directory - for sure consult it with Kaiser owner) and give the feedback. Thanks, because I am not owner of s730 - only trying to help :-)
[HTC Wings] saman-cz:
I also have mentioned file (driver), but GPS not working.. SO, this is definitely not the cure..

I've attached it.
[HTC Wings] mykie:
it was a nice try, it is good when everything where you believe in is tested when possible
[HTC Wings] Andrew Farrell:
This vendor claims his s730 is GPS enabled:

http://www.supergps.co.uk/htc-s730-gps-simfree-pda-phone-p-1032.html

Quote from page:

Product Specification : HTC S730 GPS Sim-Free PDA Phone

Operating System Windows Mobile 6 Standard

Processor CPU: 32bit Samsung SC32442 CPU Clock: 400 MHz

Memory ROM capacity: 128 MB RAM capacity: 64 MB

Expandable Memory SDIO, microSD, TransFlash

GPS Technology Version SiRF Star III , 20 channels

WiFi 802.11b, 802.11g

Bluetooth Bluetooth 2.0

Size 50 x 100 x 18 millimetres

Display Display Type: color transflective TFT , 65536 scales Display Resolution: 240 x 320 Display Diagonal: 2.2 "

3G Lithium-ion polymer , removable 1050 mAh
[HTC Wings] madferret:
I got mine from them. It isn't. :(

(Nor did I expect it to be - their website hasn't been changed since the pre-production models were announced)
[HTC Wings] solvang:
Is this file from Kaiser, or is it the original from S730?
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
ok

Ok iv managed to see all the GPS files in the windows directory now.

Iv got a total of 6 Dll's refering to GPS. Does the Kaiser also have these files, and if so can you get them so we can compare them to what we have.

gpsapi.dll

gpsapiext.dll

GpsDaemonService.dll

gpsid.dll

gpsid_qtc.dll

GpsSecurity.dll

:)

Something else, how do i manage to copy these files to another directory. If its possible
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
So the GPSID_QCT.dll file is in the windows directory. I had to use SmartExplorer to search and find it. So it is not a driver problem. Any ideas?
[HTC Wings] mykie:
If I look into the diagrams below

http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/gpsone.pdf

This has a better diagram.

http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_gpsone.pdf

Then the GPS has his own antenne apart from the GSM antenna. Could be not be conntected?
[HTC Wings] Andrew Farrell:
Here is a better block diagram of the Qualcom MSM7200 chip:

http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_msm7200_cs.pdf
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Sorry, these are not the steps to solve our problem - all these diagrams shows, that gps antenna should be connected for proper function.

But we still do not know if s730 has the antenna really connected - or if this function is only disabled by software. See the previous posts.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
What we need is the rom from a pre-production S730.
[HTC Wings] solvang:
Interesting...

From another forum:

"Hi guys, finally HTC S730 in my hand. I have a prerelease version with official HTC rom but with internal GPS ENABLED.

I've tested with TOMTOM NAVIGATOR 6 + fakecursor.

Satellite work and fixed. I selected com 4 with HTCGPSTool.exe and all is good.

I know official rom will disable internal GPS, so if anyone help me to dump this rom (WITH INTERNAL GPS ENABLED) i'll share it."

from here:

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/260913/The-official-HTC-Wings-S730-Ask-Paul-thread/page/60/
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
Seen it a while ago and PM'd the guy with no reply yet, maybe someone else will have better luck
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
I can not find this contribution at this link :( Deleted?
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Post #70 @ http://www.modaco.com/content-page/2...hread/page/60/

I have also replied at this that thread and sent that person a message. Hopefully we will get a reply soon.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
I saw you there :-) Just now, I tried to send him the private message - hope he will respond.
[HTC Wings] Andrew Farrell:
IMO the simple fact that a small GPS signal is being received tells me the GPS receiver/processor is all there, but the quality/quantity of the GPS data is very poor as if you were in a concrete building. If the GPS software was disabled you would get nothing.

As this picture was taken at a window (where you would expect to get a full 3d lock with a BT GPS receiver) then I would put money on it that the internal GPS aerial is physically disconnected (or simply not installed) before it gets to the GPS processor. It looks like the existing GPS aerials conducting tracks on the PCB are acting as the aerial.

But there is only 1 sure way of knowing, by opening and comparing a pre-production and a current production model.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
If the HTC sold the preproduction models as well as postproduction, it means that service center have the information (service manuals) or experience how to repair them. So, one way could be to find somebody, who is repairing HTC devices (in your town) - he must f.e. knows how antenna in Kaiser looks like or where/if it is attached in s730 etc. Have anybody such contact?
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
I have a friend that works on repairing GPS capable devices from E-Ten and HTC (for Czech and Slovak mobile operators). I try to reach him but cant promise anything.
[HTC Wings] rooomish:
Thanks for trying! Maybe it will really helps!
[HTC Wings] mykie:
It was mine post, as I say the GPS if working but acting poor. Only mine thinking is it is working without an antenna. I read somewhere the GPS chip is working with the antenna on it I would say the antenna is disconnected. Like he said we must see a preproduction model or a kaiser to see inside how it is connected.
[HTC Wings] A.Bagatov:
How can we identify a pre-production model (except looking at GPS feature)?
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
mm

well i think we need someone in here with a working gps and then we can compare rom/radio etc versions for a start
[HTC Wings] rafuz:
Next week I will have both a commercial s730 and a pre-production one with working GPS. I will do a series of comparative tests and post here the results :)
[HTC Wings] mykie:
are those both your ownings?
[HTC Wings] rafuz:
yes, both mine :D
[HTC Wings] A.Bagatov:
wow that sounds promising.

keep it up!

thanks
[HTC Wings] Jammo:
Don't give up my friend! I want to use all the potential in this little toy!
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
n1

Nice 1 m8, will be intresting to see the results. Looking forward to it.....
[HTC Wings] narthexs:
S730 with GPS

Hi,

my supplier gave me a working pre-production model of the

S730

.

I launched the GPSTest and this works without problems.

The version I have here is the following:

CE 5.2.1622

BUILD 18128.0.4.4

R 1.58.17.02

G 25.62.30.03H

D 1.31.00.00

My question, is this a real pre-production model?

Has anyone other values?

Kind regards,

Phil
[HTC Wings] moneytoo:
I have exactly the same values (no pre-production).

What do you mean "works without problems"? How many satellites have you found? Does it show time? Does it work with other GPS tools?
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1249436

The second picture shows pre-production radio and rom builds.
[HTC Wings] saman-cz:
You mean, you've got 3+ satellites and 3D fix?

I have the normal model and the same numbers.
[HTC Wings] narthexs:
I got 6 GPS satellites in View + a latitude and a longitude.

But my Device Information reads out the following versions:

ROM Version: 1.31.405.1

Model Name: HTC_S730

Sorry, I haven't had the time to test any other GPS tools...

Kind regards,

Phil
[HTC Wings] dohnutts:
I have ROM Version 1.31.402.0 no pre-prod.

And the GPS is not working, it finds a few satellites (1-4) but no fix.
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Something is strange here. Could you provide screen shots?
[HTC Wings] saman-cz:
Same. So, in the worse case the difference is in hw, or just in some settings. Can you, please, dump the ROM and provide part02.raw to download?
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=308305&page=5

Post #46

I believe that this is a dumped pre-production rom (judging by the date). It includes the .raw. What can this tell us?
[HTC Wings] saman-cz:
I've already check that. I was not able to extract the image to files as i was able to do it with image from my device, with the same tools. Also that image has 54MB, but image from my device has 74MB. I'm not a "dump ROM master", so i hope, that image from phil will help more..
[HTC Wings] butzchan:
Awesome. Please keep us posted.
[HTC Wings] rafuz:
I've received my pre-production S730. The GPS is on Com4, 57600 bps. I can get a fix in about 40 seconds on cold start.

GPS Enabled S730:

R 1.58.06.16

G 25.42.11.00H

D 0.91.00.00

Production S730:

R 1.58.17.02

G 25.62.30.03H

D 1.31.408.0

Someone wants to give me some hints on how to find differences?
[HTC Wings] NoNco:
??

what did you use to test the gps on the pre production model?

On mine i cant even set GPStest to 57600 bps.

The only hint i can say is compare the 2 registrys reg. gps entrys

R 1.58.17.02

G 25.62.30.03H

D 1.31.00.00

oh PS. nice going Rafuz. We can move forward now with some luck.
[HTC Wings] rafuz:
My pre-production has many debug tools installed. Now I'm playing with it a bit. I've used HTC GPS Tool.
[HTC Wings] JJM_730:
hi, maybe you can find some differences in the registry area or in the \windows directory. I've seen two places in the registry that seem to contain GPS settings and the windows directory contains some .dlls that have to do with GPS. Also there could be a background service or a program in the startup list (both in the registry). Maybe you can find a process thAt is not on the consumer model.

If I can offer more assistance, let me know.