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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I don't agree with this.

In the most simple terms, mandatory is something you must do and voluntary is something you can choose to do. So the question is, what would make any act, something that you must do?

Well yes, the government could step in and with the appropriate legal framework, make something mandatory. (The necessary laws would need to be in place however. Governments in sensible democracies cannot simply decide to tell people what to do, outside the law.)

But government enforcement is not a necessary precondition for something to be mandatory. If you buy a car on a load agreement and you fail to make the loan payments, the loan company can ask for the car back and will be mandatory that you return it under the terms of the contract. You cannot say, "no I decide not to pay you and I will keep the car". Handing back the car is mandatory.

Similarly, Samsung could have - had it wished to - put terms into its licensing agreements that gave it the rights to mandatory recall in certain circumstances. I am presuming (although I have not read the agreements) that no such provision exists. If so, that was Samsung's choice. If such provision is in the licensing and Samsung are not using that provision to enforce the recall, that is also Samsung's choice.

Either way, it is/was Samsung's choice whether this should be a mandatory recall or not and either directly or through their actions, they have chosen "voluntary".

Since this is the case, it is entirely reasonable for any N7 owner also to choose to keep their phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] whoofit:
Chippy,

The label Mandatory vs Voluntary has ZERO to do with the action taken by or remedy given to the end user. It applies to the government either requiring, or not, the company to recall a product.

Easy Peazy.

Sammy took the voluntary route before the government REQUIRED them to do so. A preemptive and voluntary recall before they were forced to do it by government mandate.

Truth out.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I am sorry, you are simply mistaken.

A government - backed with the appropriate law - could make something mandatory if they wished. But it does not need to be a government that makes something mandatory.

May I suggest you look up the word "mandatory" in the dictionary. It also means "compulsory". Things can be compulsory even if the government is not involved. As I said (but you seemed to ignore), a contract can require the mandatory return of goods in the event of non-payment, for example.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] whoofit:
Chippy,

I am well aware of the definition of mandatory. You have just confused the context of how the label is applied. Easy to do.

Whether a recall is mandatory or voluntary means little. It is still a recall and the process is the same. End users are notified and are allowed the same remedies no matter the label. The government did not have to do a study in the matter because Sammy pulled the plug voluntarily. See the difference?

Now, every nation in the world did not have to do a study and condemn or accept the product because Sammy did this themselves.

When the government body FORCES the company to recall it is a Mandatory one. When the government body needed not to do so it is Voluntary.

Not every company agrees that their product is dangerous in some way. Those are the products that go for review before the government body to be inspected. IF found to be dangerous they are slapped with a MANDATORY RECALL..... where the company has no say in the matter.

IF the company pulls the plug and recalls themselves the government study is moot. Not required, Never happens. Finito.

I have explained this to the best of my ability. I hope you get the point.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Spike96:
Stop complaining about the difference between a mandatory and voluntary recall.

It's meaningless.

Fact is, Samsung is taking extreme measures to get back its phones. They will be defended in their actions because most people believe the Note 7 is a danger.

Just focus on how to stay a step ahead of Samsung.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I don't disagree with much of that, other than you clearly do not understand that a recall can be mandatory even if not mandated by the government. Perhaps if you let that sink in for a moment, you wouldn't need to keep repeating yourself.

I've said this before but what the heck I am going to repeat it: CLEARLY Samsung want my Note7 back. Well how about making me an offer to make it worth my while. "YOU MUST GIVE IT BACK" is NOT an offer I find acceptable.

Maybe if Samsung - since it is THEY who are so keen to get it back - were to make it worth my while, I might consider returning it. Just a thought.

Just cranking up the volume on "YOU MUST GIVE IT BACK" makes me want to do the exact opposite. How about "Please could we have it back, and sorry for the inconvenience and here's an S6 Edge on loan until the S8 comes out and some discount or other when it does comes out".

Why on earth would I choose to return a Note7 and get a 1 year old S7 Edge in return? THAT I WOULD BE STUCK WITH FOR 2 YEARS on my contract????

Samsung have behaved appallingly over this whole fiasco.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] kat3k:
My feelings exactly.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] triscuit22:
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. A voluntary recall means that the manufacturer either said on their own they are going to try to get the product back, or the CPSC asked and they complied to get the product back. A mandatory recall means that the manufacturer rejected the CPSC's request and is now being forced to get the product back through court order initiated by the CPSC.

This has nothing to do with the relationship between the consumer, the device, and the manufacturer.

*in U.S.A.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I suspect the reason you are confused is that you are failing to recognise or understand that there are circumstances OTHER THAN where the CPSC is mandating a recall, where in fact the recall is still mandatory.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] triscuit22:
I'm not confusing anything. These recalls are written by lawyers where every word used is used for a reason. Under no circomstances can Samsung force you to return the device. In this instance voluntary means between Samsung and cpsc. From the recall notice on their website

[IMG="voluntary"]http://i63.tinypic.com/iof5gh.jpg[/IMG]

https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2017/s...-Additional-Incidents-with-Replacement-Phones
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Clearly you are not listening to me, so there's no point in my repeating what I've said. What you are saying is not wrong per se, it's merely an incomplete understanding.

And by the way, I have no idea why you've linked that stuff, which is completely irrelevant as far as our discussion is concerned.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] whoofit:
Here it is Jan 6th. They killed my Note7.....not. I feel like I was diagnosed terminal and beat the odds.. LOL.

Still happily enjoying my Free Note7 in spite of no security updates, third party support and IMEI nuclear option....

My Mom used to punish me like this. "You are not going anywhere tonight mister!" while handing me the keys to the car.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] triscuit22:
It's not irrelevant, it supports my argument that the term voluntary recall is not between the consumer and samsung but between Samsung and the cpsc.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Does it? Anyway, that was not my point. I'm done.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
It won't be so voluntary if you drop it and break something, given there is no spares kept for a recalled & manufacturer discontinued phone..
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Bellmont:
Enjoying my free Note 7 and plan to keep this as my permanent backup phone when I decide to upgrade. Samsung even sent me a secured box to keep it in!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raquelito77:
Hi, I have the S7 since above 6 months, everything was perfect until one day it made a sound like brrrrrr and frezzed after some seconds it restarted, some time later again, some times with the noise and other times without it. Every time it restart its less the time it is running and if I don't turn off it, It turn on unthe SAMSUNG logo and restarts again and again.

I tried to solve this problem using SAMSUNG SWITCH, but it doen't solve it, so I downloaded some stock roms from sam mobile and tried them but none one of them funtioned, so a root my phone and I install a german rom herolte and it runs, but some It's still restarting some minutes after turn on, after that if i let the phone turnned off some hours when I turn on it funtions for more time.

I the app twrp, and bussy box and I'm trying to instal de recovery since twrp, but everytime it restarts before download ends.

I´m not sure about how to use twrp to repair my phone, but I want to try it or if you have another suggestion.

My phone doesn't have warranty, because the knox says void warranty 1 (0X0500).

I took my phone for a service center, but they could'nt repair it. So I don't know if there is a way to repair it or if I losse my phone for ever.

I can't give you all the phone especifications because I can't turn on to be able to see them.

I hope you to be able to understand my English, I'm a mexican girl.

Thank you.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sebastian505:
Hey You Can Repair Your Phone By Flashing A 4files Firmware For Phone

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You Simply Download Odin 3.09 Will Work

And Open The App The Put The PDA File You Extracted From The Firmware In PDA Section In Odin

and Put CSC In CSC Section

Put Phone In Modem

Put Bootloader Or BL in Bootloader Section In Odin

Put Pit In Pit Section In Odin

And PowerOff Your Phone And Go Into Odin Mode (Download Mode)

By Pressing (When Mobile Is Off) Power Button+Volume Down Button+Home Button

Now You Will See A Screen Saying Warning Press Volume Up Button

And Then Connect Your Phone To Your Computer Then Get Back To Odin App And Press Start

Now Your Phone Is Flashing.

A Photo Explain What I Told You: http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...1600/odin-multifile-firmware-installation.jpg

Hit Thanks Button If I Helped You.
[Android General] Michael60622:
I am considering writing a two player real time game to be played over the Android phone instead of p.c.. How fast can the phone update in a client server setting? Can the Java code on a phone update fast enough for an arcade game, how about C++. Or should I just write it on p.c. with OpenGL?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] matt.b.powell:
Does anyone have experience with a cracked back panel and being on JOD? I am thinking about attempting to replace it but, it does have the IMEI listed. Does anyone know of a back case manufacturer that can add the IMEI as well? If all else fails I am pretty good with the guys at my local T-Mobile, I may just try to convince them to say it happened at trade in, or put like a D-Brand Skin on it and see if I can get it past them that way.:laugh:

Thanks in advance
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] CravingMender9:
I don't have experience with JOD particularly, but would like to caution you against trying trickery that you mentioned. Even if you put a skin, they'll remove it to try and put this in the refurbished stock, see the crack and charge you for repairs. As for the IMEI, it really doesn't matter. If I'm not mistaken, it is just a sticker. When I got my phone back after a Samsung repair, it was removed anyways.

And finally, regarding your idea about getting local reps to lie that all was ok and stating it was damaged in transit, we do not promote such deception in xda. But it is up to you if you want to go ahead and try it out. As this is definitely a physical damage, better own up to it and pay for it. Since it is for the back panel, it'll probably be around $70 (directly from Samsung, front glass is $270). It might be a lot cheaper if repaired somewhere else.

Sincere apologies if I sound like a douche, but that's the best advice I can give you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] matt.b.powell:
Thank you for the advice, the IMEI is apart of the back panel not just the sticker thing, but actually apart of the back. I've found back panels on Amazon for like $10, maybe I will call Samsung and see if the repaired versions have the IMEI.

This was very helpful.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] CravingMender9:
Interesting. I wonder why mine doesn't have it anymore. TBH, I never noticed it before.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] WingedCow:
Just get it fixed, t-mobile(and almost any phone company I've deal with) will accept most of these phones as long as it doesnt show physical damage. I used to work for a phone repair shop in NYC and they(literally the guys at the T-Mo/Sprint/ATT stores) would send guys over to fix their phone before they would accept it as a trade in.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] xile6:
they include imei sticker int he box for reasons like this.

The imei is in the phone harness.

phone app *#06#

So when they do a trade in or any work on your phone. All they need to do is put in that code and it will being up th imei and they can move on.

But since it crack and you try the jump. They will either charge you the insurance claim price/ not give you the full amount for it. leaving you to pay the different before you get the new phone

Other then that it doesnt matter if the imei on the back is gone. the phone will be refub once it leaves your hands.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] jgodfrey82:
Broke mine too .. $60 at local repair shop
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] matt.b.powell:
Very interesting, I have found backs on Amazon for like $10 bucks. Not sure if they're really that great or not but, I will give that a try. Worst case they turn me down and I am stuck with the phone for a couple years.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] WingedCow:
As long as they're glass and has the Samsung logo on it, it'll be fine. Make sure you also get some decent double sided adhesives for it, or get the specific adhesives cutout for the S7E that you can just slap on. I usually use redline tapes, they're slightly better than scor-tapes imo.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Z51:
Just replace it. Amazon and eBay have it for $25-$30. All you need is a blow dryer.
[Android Head-Units] theo59310:
Hello ,

Sorry about my english , i'm french and I'm not good in english .

I post here, because I do not have a French community for Android Head unit .

I was bought an Head unit on aliexpress,i bought head unit for spotify and waze or google maps .

and when i try to root it , the front panel control stopping to work .

So i flash headunit with rom , but i no look the version in setting ... :( :rolleyes:

I think is MTCD , because it's RK3188 cpu , and i only success to install a " Dupdate.img " , " update.img" can't installing , but i'm not sure about that ... Name of the motherboard is MTC_RK3188_REV0.3 2015-09-24 .

But is not my problem , my problem it's i try lot of rom , like original , Malaysk rom , jy rom .

Is it always the same issue , the head unit freeze and are very very very slow , google maps can't work because i crashes , Spotify and waze a so slow who i can't use , some time spotify music stoping 3-4 sec like a overload of cpu , but is only app open ! I do antutu test : 23000 , but app like spotify boot in some time 1min !

I realised movie , but i can't post it because i not post enough ...

I'm sorry if the subject is treat.I have trouble searching because I do not have technical vocabulary.

Thank you for your help ...
[Android Head-Units] theo59310:
Hi ,

Do I put the question in the wrong way? Or Nobody ever had this problem?
[Android Head-Units] David Choi:
Maybe it will be helpful if you upload screenshot of your system information. (CPU, MCU, etc,.)
[Android Head-Units] gunmoule:
He most likely bought a MTCD_KD HeadUnit. There is a French board of Peugeot enthusiasts with a guy promoting this unit.

It's true that the unit fits nicely in the car, but no one on the thread talks about the unit being slow as hell.

Not talking about new Intel 2Gb MTCD boards (because I never had one) MTCD unit is a complete failure, they never should have pushed Android 5.1.1 to the RK3188, and 1Gb ram is just not enough. I suggest sticking with MTCB Android 4.4 units.

[MENTION=3547825]theo59310[/MENTION] your chance of getting the best out of your HU is the latest stock JY. You can get some improvements by tweaking the CPU governor to 1.6Ghz. You can also look at da_anton Rom over here

http://xdaforums.com/android-auto/m...rom-joying-rom-supersu-tweaked-speed-t3475086

or if you have some Linux knowledge build your own rom with the Rom builder tool over here

http://xdaforums.com/android-auto/m...ns-development/tool-mtcd-rom-builder-t3475444
[Android Head-Units] doitright:
NOTHING will EVER run well on an RK3188. That chip is a complete piece of trash.

If you can, try to SELL that head unit, and replace it with one of the newer Intel/2GB units, like a Joying JY-UL128N2. These newer units work VERY well. Fast and reasonably stable.
[Android Head-Units] pierluc:
Is any 2GB unit will be good? When I bought my unit, I tough 4core and 1GO would be enough for basic use. But no, it's slow. Also, it works bad when it's +30°C or -30°C and it need 1 minute to start! Welcome in 1995.
[Android Head-Units] mum1989:
it's probably a very old PX3 (rk3188)

choose a PX5+4Go Ram it's better.
[Android Head-Units] pierluc:
Is it possible to replace the PX3 by a PX5 without replacing the entire unit?
[Android Head-Units] gunmoule:
If you are able to confirm your unit has a PX3 coreboard (you can check that in settings>about this unit see if Model name starts with PX3). Then yes, it is possible to replace the coreboard only. It's the size of a credit card, doesn't require much skills besides using a screwdriver, and can be bought at roughly 80€. Just search for PX5 coreboard in your fav chinese etailer
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slackbladder:
Hi Chaps....

Honestly didn't know where else to go for help on this one...

First off.... I've been happily playing DT2 with my amazon controller since I first got my Firetv box (non rooted) v 51.1.6.3,.... right up until today,... when i was met with "Please update your application with a new version" and I was quickly kicked back to the fire os screen. I tried contacting madfinger games but it seems they have dropped windows and Amazon support. Ages ago I had moved a lot of my apps to an sd card,... but due to DT2 writing to the card a lot it became corrupted... so i reinstalled it to the firetv box then moved it to the sd card, backed it up to my pc and then put it back on to the firetv. (hope your still with me).

I just wanted to know if it would be possible to sideload the latest version 2-1.2.0 onto the firetv box.

I really don't understand why they dropped support for amazon because it ran like a dream on my box. (also lost 2400 in gold as well).

I noticed that the original DT2 that i backed up was an apk that was just over 488mb in size,... but the new apk that i've downloaded is only 25mb. (I'm still in the process of downloading the OBB data files, although I don't know if they will be of much use.

Is this just a waste of time chaps or does anyone know if i can get this to work.

I'm okay with adb push pull, ect... so just need to know if it'll work.

really appreciate any help as playing a game on a tv is a hell of a lot better than burning my eye sockets out on a monitor.... lol
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slackbladder:
I have absolutely no idea how i done this, but i'll explain as best i can.

I uninstalled DT2,... luckily its still in the cloud if it all goes belly up. I then installed apps2fire on my phone and downloaded DT2.

I then sent the main apk to my firetv. (probably went wrong here) but i ran the apk.... DT2 started to run but then said that it needed to download some files (around 250mb) but failed with an error code of "Download Failed Because The Resources Could Not Be Found".

Unaware of what this meant i then managed to locate the obb files on my file and wrote down the name of the folder they were in.

using es file explorer i created the same named folder in the same place on the firetv.

I then created another folder called dt2 on the phone and moved the obb file into it. I then used apps2fire and located to obb file and sent it to the firetv. so far so good. next problem was "where was the obb file". I managed to locate it, but only after i changed the folder view in es file explorer. I then copied and pasted the obb into the folder i created ealier within the obb folder.

I then ran DT2 again, but this time is said that it required files from the google playstore. I had a choice for the software to download what it needed and I let it do it's thing.

This time when I ran DT2 it started playing the intro... I skipped all the first parts so that i could log back in with my own details.

This time the game ran but the images look different to the original firetv version. Don't get me wrong, they look great. plus the amazon controller works perfectly.

I then closed the game.

when I went to go back to play it, the icon said that there was an update available.... (I had already gone through this once before, and it never worked).. but this time it did. and the xmas version is now installed.

This was a rough way of doing things, but i did some google searches and used details from these sites... (hope i can post these)....

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2g7cgy/how_would_i_go_about_sideloading_a_game_that_has/

http://www.aftvnews.com/sideload/

http://filehex.com/dead-trigger-2/

http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8829-obb-files-and-dead-trigger-2

all of this was done legally using programs available on firetv and an android phone. no other apk's or obbs were used.

Hope this helps in some way,....
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slackbladder:
seems I was a little too quick to say it was working...... as soon as i went to play in a tournament the start button had become greyed out.

but the firetv game controller still worked and by pressing "B" i was about to back out of the locked screen.

Also the "there is an update available" has returned to the main dt2 icon, but it always fails right at the very end of the loading bar.

I managed to play the game for about an hour and then tried the tournament since then its been very buggy.

Would it be anything to do with google play services chaps?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] andrewjt19:
This I just an alert for anyone who is thinking about unlocking their bootloader. I wish I was warned about this before doing mine which ended up being ok but could potentially cause issues for people. Once you decide to unlock the bootloader you will permanently have a thrown flag at boot up which states your bootloader is unlocked. If you decide to relock your bootloader you will have a flag thrown that says your device may be corrupt... This is important because of your try to return your device at the store the employees will know it has been tampered with... Just so you know.

tApPeD fROM mY nExUs 6
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] jameslapc2:
Really when I relock and make mine stock again it doesn't do that. If you don't mind me asking what variant do you have?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
I'm betting they'll find a way to mask that flag once things really get cracking around here. The proverbial floodgates have been opened!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] andrewjt19:
H918 T-MOBILE

tApPeD fROM mY nExUs 6
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] ZDeuce2:
This is not true, I factory reset mine and relocked the bootloader for an exchange when my loudspeaker died, after that it booted just like new. On T-Mobile h918

Common sense isn't all that common