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[General Topics] Menneisyys:
... and I use both Symbian and WinMo at the same time. The Nokia N95 has a definitely superior hardware for 3D gaming & multimedia to any HTC device out there; therefore, that's my music source. And, I use my Universal when need to browse the web in hi-res (if low-res is OK, I prefer browsing on the Nokia because it's lightweight - as opposed to the Universal). I also read my mails on my Nokia - it's far faster to load new mails than WinMo from POP3 accounts with more than a thousand mails.

Finally, I use a cheap HTC Oxygen (s310) for calls because it's sturdy, cheap and is the very few HTC phones to allow for call recording. (The Nokia also allows for the latter, but it's too expensive and I am afraid of dropping it when used as a phone.)
[General Topics] spzero:
:p ive been a windows mobile user since the very begening and have gone to symbian and other forms as i have frequently got hacked off at the crap software, but if you stick with it u soon realise there are enougth fixes n hacks to make WM devices become far superior to anything, i love my athena at times and sometimes i hate it but i know that nothing can beat it yet as a single device to do everything i need. just have a little patience
[General Topics] V J:
Well, the Symbian platform is a great platform. But as it grew more advanced, it also got less stable: my Psion 5mx NEVER crashes, my Nokia 6260 sometimes just kills its modem process or just hangs. That being said, it still is one of the more stable platforms out there, allows for a huge amount of free softwares, but runs on IMO more limited hardware.

I always intended to stay with Symbian, but did choose for a HTC TyTN as I liked the form factor, and as I needed to run one particular software that is Windows Mobile exclusive. I have my gripes with Windows Mobile (it looses points on the functionality as a phone, e.g. lack of profiles, but also on easy taskswitching and in user friendlyness), but I'd rate them quite similarly now: each has their upsides and downsides.

Still, for an advanced phone, nothing beats Symbian. For a PDA/phone the edge currently is with WM6, but Symbian is catching up (new S60 ought to support touchscreens as well, and S60 is IMO more mature than UIQ).

Jörg
[General Topics] wacky.banana:
I must admit that, for the first 3 months of windows mobile PDA ownership I felt the same way as you. I kept wondering why I had given up my trusty P900 smartphone to come over to endless lockups and freezes, poor reliability, etc, etc.

A year down the line my views have changed enormously. OK, I have had to flash to WM6 and use cooked roms and other technical solutions from off here; however I have also moved away from the MS standard/office/web browsing apps and gone onto more fit-for-purpose items.

The fact is I now would not move back to a Symbian platform. I can do so much more with the PDA phone, customise it to my hearts content and beyond, use it for business with a reasonable degree of confidence, use it for fun whenever I like.

Yes, I have had to work at it and spend light years of my life on this forum to get to work out how one gets round some o the issues, but its been worth it.

You can only speak as you find and your comments are valid; however its always a case of you pays your money, you takes your choice.

All the best.

WB
[General Topics] Vukile:
Its always irritating when somebody moans about how a PDA is not like a phone. Duuuuuh! Symbian definitely got more free stuff,something had to make up for the lack of true functionalism. Theres an entire shift in mindset required to adjust to moving from another OS to windows mobile. Some struggle more than others I suppose.
[General Topics] cybercub:
Interesting, my 8125 is great! I don't understand what you mean about hardly hearing someone. With my volume on max its so loud sounds like Im on speaker phone.

I get an awsome signal anywhere I go, then again could just be my service and area I live in?

To bad the devices are not what you perfer but glad you found something that works to your needs. Just a couple of points I wanted to make on this reply,

1.You do not have to discredit the phone hardware or functionality because you can't find a way for it to work for you. My phone has been dropped etc.. used a lot and functions like it did day 1 without having hardly any blemishes on it.

2. It's a windows mobile phone, you can get just about any software and install it to fit your needs! I'm sure there is some simple solution to the .docx? But these phones are not meant for your everyday normal phone user. Best fit for those who are always on the go on a corporate level needing to be able to pull up real time email push etc.. and organize.

PS: I will have to look up the E62 to see what its about to compared to wm6.
[General Topics] Trekvogel:
Well, I like my Touch a lot but my first WM (than still called Smartphone 2002) experience was very bad as well. I owned an original SPV with smartphone 2002. Man did it suck! It was so bad that it would sometimes actually crash when my phone rang while listening to music. Opening the sms inbox also regularly made the phone hang. Manually clearing memory was needed a lot, nothing would launch when the phone had been on for more than a few hours.

Still it had some good things other phones didn't have. Apart from crashing, the sms inbox was really nice for a phone. I still like pOutlook on WM standard a lot, better than on WM pro.

To sum it up. The SPV, and MS smartphone, was so bad I decided never to get a WM phone again. I only changed my opinion this summer after checking out a Touch.
[General Topics] Vukile:
Maybe he needed a phone all along. Run on home,Forrest! You cant be a serious business person and sat things like that with a clear concience. WM is as comprehensive as its gets.Every now and then it'll play dressup with the Cube and iPhone,but its more than about sms and pictures.
[General Topics] Gregor333:
I am interested for your tytn?-where are you from? (can you send by DHL?)
[General Topics] Gregor333:
And Tell Me The Price Of Course..........
[General Topics] PaY87:
I used symbian for a long time. I made my first experience with the Siemens SX1 which was for that time more than great. Even the camera made very good pictures. I was totally satisfied in that time. But after phones god faster and smaller I switched over to Sony Ericsson K700i. I used it a long time and I have to say it was really fast. I just missed my StorageCard.

After a while I also missed the possibility to install programs so I switched to the Samsung SGH-D730 which also has symbian. But what i noticed on all symbian devices is that it tooks a long time to open the contacts and menu.

Of course you have a lot of different programs to install, but i personally think that windows mobile has just better apps.

After i got in touch with a touchscreen I decided to buy a Himalaya and after that the Hermes. Right now i am very happy I made the decision to switch to windows mobile 6!

To sum it up:

Symbian feels very slow to me and hasn't the features windows mobile gives you.
[General Topics] slardar:
for me, once i started using wm phones, i find its not possible to go back to normal phones. even new symbian phones doesnt attract me.

my first wm5 was the Prophet and i used it for 1.5years, really satisfied me, i didnt thought of changing phone at all.. then i decided to try the htc tytn. even better with a keyboard!

i think ive fallen in love with wm ppc. never gonna go back to normal phones. haha..
[Sony Xperia XA Ultra Questions & Answers] id3alistic:
I have an Aukey quick charger and was wondering if it would work with this phone or does it need to proper one.
[Sony Xperia XA Ultra Questions & Answers] kaangn:
it wont cuz aukey is for qualcom quick charge, xa ultra using mtk pumpexpress 2.0
[Sony Xperia XA Ultra Questions & Answers] Danushkamw@gmail.com:
Is UCH12 support for XA ultra.?
[Sony Xperia XA Ultra Questions & Answers] Yooooomi:
The charger sold with is an UCH12 so I guess it is :)
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
Go to the Google site guys...build is up...looks like one to rule them all
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] nmarietta:
Here is a link to the OTA https://developers.google.com/android/ota#sailfish

Or if you want the factory image

https://developers.google.com/android/images#sailfish
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] pjd2011:
Interesting there aren't separate builds...
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bwthor20:
Do they post a changelog anywhere? Curious what changes are in store.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] troy`:
More interesting... it looks like the 6P will have a separate build for Verizon this month...
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] jay661972:
Waiting for non verizon build like the one from November
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] gerrysnaps:
This build NMF26O seems to have a newer baseband than the Canadian update (NPF26J). Hopefully LTE issues sorted for those who have it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
I haven't finished extracting it...is the bootloader the same or has it changed?

Doing everything from my phone while the wife does the Christmas shopping
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] sgravel:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/12/welcoming-android-711-nougat.html?m=1
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] darkarvan:
do i need to flash every OTA or just the last one? currently on 7.1.0 (Europe, NDE63U, Nov 2016)

google is not really informative at this point
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] UnusualSuspect:
I'm getting the December OTA as I type this. I have a 32GB Pixel with locked bootloader, from the Google Store.

EDIT: Now I'm getting it on my N5x as well. I haven't seen an OTA roll out this swiftly before.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] two_cents:
OTA just popped up... Verizon pixel 128gb
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Do those of us on Verizon have to worry about thisessing up unlocked bootloader if it's already unlocked??

Also curious if this patched the bootloader exploit used
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] marc.ientilucci:
has anyone flashed the factory image or side loaded the OTA for a non-VZ device yet?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] jay661972:
Flashed factory img, carrier tmobile purch from BB
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] marc.ientilucci:
very nice, which commands did you use to flash?

I'm currently rooted with TWRP alpha2 and SuperSU SR5. I'd like to update without losing data.

My system is on Sot B so I'm thinking:

fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
fastboot reboot bootloader
fastboot flash radio radio.img
fastboot reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot_a boot.img
fastboot flash boot_b boot.img
fastboot flash system_b system.img
fastboot flash vendor vendor.img

and then to get TWRP back:

fastboot boot twrp.img

- TWRP install twrp.zip

Reboot into recovery

- TWRP install supersu.zip

Does the above sound accurate?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] jay661972:
I use the flash-all file, i edit the file first to remove the -w so i can dont have to wipe the data

Cant answer the TWRP, not sure if it works with the new update
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] stranula:
I just sideloaded the OTA onto my VZW Pixel with unlocked bootloader. My bootloader remains unlocked and I flashed twrp and SuperSU SR5. So far everything is working fine.

According to the dePixel8 website (http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html) "dePixel8 is patched in Android 7.1.1 and newer, do not ask for future support or any kind of support."

So if you take this OTA from the phone (on an unlocked bootloader) you may well be locked out for good (unless someone finds another exploit).
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Thanks for the reply. I did some more reading and realized it's safe to install the OTA since I'm already unlocked. The update can't relock it. I already installed it via OTA and everything is ok
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] mrj0087:
sorry, big time newb here. How do I flash the update if I have Verizon pixel with bootloader unlocked and with twrp installed? OTA doesn't work and I don't want to lose data....please help
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] fix-this!:
So did this add lift to wake or dt2w? Disappointing there is no dark UI or night mode. Thats why I'm staying on the leaked j build for now.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] farfromovin:
Yup...
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Edit: nevermind
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
It is needed for Verizon pixel...some people haven't got their pixel from Verizon yet and some people are worried that their phones will be shipped with 7.1.1 already on it and that means no unlocking the bootloader for them unless something else is figured out
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Had just edited my post. That sucks. Something will come again. If my HTC rezound could be unlocked with a paperclip the pixel will be unlocked again.

Google was stupid for going exclusive to anyone. They obviously we're not serious about trying to actually compete.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
They chose Verizon because it has the most customs and they thought it would be the best way to get the pixel into the most consumer hands that way...now that the name is out there like this, the next pixel should be available at more carriers (at least one would think)
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
In itself that makes sense. But only if you were talking about a small no name company trying to launch in the US. But we are talking about google. The power behind the most used phone OS in the world releasing their first in in house phone. They didn't need carrier kickbacks or trust. If you need an answer you Google it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
But the nexus line was generally in the hands of devs and enthusiasts...but this is the first phone with no other branding on it and Google's first attempt to take on Apple straight up. I understand the reason they did it though I don't agree with it at all (locking the bootloader down for Verizon) but it was the easiest way to do it...this may or may not be the case with the next pixel...fingers crossed
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Any phone you buy through a carrier will probably be bootloader locked. And probably will always be and I'm perfectly okay with that. I buy direct from Google for my needs. To take on apple, in the us at least, you need to reach the masses and it being googles first phone was the selling point not a weekness
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Sakete:
If you want to unlock your bootloader you need depixel8. Unlocking the bootloader is the first step towards rooting your phone. If you don't care and just want everything stock, don't worry too much about depixel8. Just keep in mind that with the 7.1.1. update, the exploit that depixel8 uses unlock the bootloader has been patched, so there may never be a way to unlock the bootloader once you update.

For me, even though I told myself I wouldn't deal with all this stuff anymore, just for piece of mind, I just unlocked my bootloader using depixel8, just in case I ever want to root my phone or something. I will otherwise keep it stock, don't want to have the hassle of flashing roms, kernels, etc.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] joshw0000:
Thanks for the confirmation. I didn't think an OTA would lock your bootloader but I see so many people saying it that I got a little worried, lol.

I understand your point but I like to tweak my phone. Most people won't buy a $700 phone (including myself), and if subsidized phones are all locked down than a vast majority of the rooting community will not purchase the device. That means less roms, mods, etc for you (and your unlocked phone) as a direct effect of carriers locking it down. As a long time Verizon customer, it's sad how limited my phone selection is (Pixel, MXP, Moto G4, HTC 10). That's is, unless I want an old phone. The Verizon S7's have been rooted but the current root method caused some major lag. I know there will always be roms/mods for the Pixel but I'd like to see this forum overflow with people and development.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] kulwinder baidwan:
got it
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] renegadeone8:
We have to remember....

Everybody needs to remember that those of us reading here are the tech savvy elite few who already knew these phones were being worked on and would be released. 99% of customers are retarded about all things technology and would NEVER hear of this phone if it weren't for a carrier offering it to them.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] farfromovin:
Does the Dec build have a new radio? I seem to have increased reception in poor coverage areas now...
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Taebom:
Yup
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Well the phone you bought was 700$... Unless you bought it on contract then it is going to actually cost you more since the data costs more or unless you bought it on black Friday. Splitting payments up still totals the same amount. And I dont think this price will stop custom anything. Samsung phones have had **** build quality and KNOX and there is still a decent community. Also if you have been a long time VZW customer you may remember how Verizon handled the Verizon exclusive Nexus device(absolutely horrific). Phone selection at att is the same. Unfortunately the market has no profit for anyone except apple and then trailing is Samsung. In time once the OS changes have been sorted out this community will flourish. For now those who are building are doing great work with little time on this new setup.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] joshw0000:
Yea I got this one on Black Friday and got my wife one with a T-Mo iPhone 6S+ trade in that I bought on CL for $250. I'll have about $400 in each phone after taxes and payments. We both got 128gb's. That's about what I'm used to spending on used phones.

Again I'm talking Verizon only (the biggest US carrier). There are only a handful of phones that are both have CDMA bands and are unlockable/rootable. The list for AT&T is at least double (all of the One+ phones, every international phone, unlocked G5, unlocked Droid Z/Force, etc).

What did Verizon do wrong with the Verizon exclusive Nexus? The Galaxy Nexus? I understand they had a lot of returns and issues with them but mine wasn't defective. I loved it. It was unlockable and had plenty of development.

The point I was trying to make is if all carriers lock the bootloaders on subsidized Pixels (or any phone in general), making the phone with an unlockable bootloader only obtainable if purchased at full retail price, there will not be as much development as if that same phone's bootloader could be unlocked regardless of where it was purchased.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
well you worked a pretty good deal on them then. verizon hampered updates on the nexus same as on all phones back then. they seem to be much better now. the rezound was the last straw with verizon for me. wont ever go back. for one they made me very mad then, and now their prices are even more rediculous than att. and yes they network is different. but that wont stop develop, not for me... the rest of the world uses something else... the pixel is sold so many places outside of here that verizon doesn't touch the market of pixels sold. development will be fine. now what i don't get about verizon is they dont even really use cdma anymore... its pretty much all LTE 700MHz so i doubt you have seen your phone say CDMA in years unless you hunt or camp a lot but even then it would be a suprise. still i agree verizon makes things difficult for customers that want choice and care about technology. they are like the apple of the US cell market. the most popular, most expensive, fewest choices, dont actually care about you, but all in all it works if you can handle using what they offer.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] WhammyDroid:
Has someone written a how-to on how to flash the factory images via adb? I ask because with the partitioning differences with the pixel vs nexus devices, I want to make sure it is done correctly.

Thanks!

Edit: nevermind, found it: http://xdaforums.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-update-fastboot-t3498187/
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] tryceo:
Can I take the OTA with root
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Protibus:
No
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] jon1833:
Hello. I'm on pi3 firmware. Verizon Galaxy s7. When I installed v2, over the original version, I followed OP steps exactly, just like when I installed the original version. Everything appeared to load fine but when it came to the setup screen, saying my phone was activated, and gave me my phone number, it would sit there for a sec, and then the screen would go blank, and send me back to the lock screen. I would have to put in my pattern each time instead of my print, because it said the phone had been restarted. I was unable to get past that point to reflash the Rom. The only option I could find was to Odin back to stock. I downloaded all the proper files from a guide on this site, but each time I tried to start the flash it would give an authorization error after working for a few seconds, in odin. After doing more research I discovered that error is usually caused when trying to flash an older firmware. The firmware on this sites was older than what I had on my phone, and I couldn't find a download of the most recent firmware. I discovered after that samsung/Verizon has an upgrade/recovery tool on their site. I was able to restore stock with that tool. Just a heads up if others have the same problem, I can't post in original thread because I haven't posted enough. Thanks for the Rom, I'll try to flash it again later. The original version was awesome.

Repair assistant for Verizon Galaxy S7, this is a windows app. http://support-us.samsung.com/VerizonSoftwareUpdateWin

This ROM blew the stock rom away. So much faster and I can't even explain how awesome the battery life is. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/development/stang5litre-edition-5-0-s7e-rom-s7-t3453441
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] ickedmel:
That's not a brick then. Or maybe considered a soft brick I dunno. Brick is when it's unrecoverable. I could be wrong though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] jon1833:
V2 was repaired so it didn't get stuck on the setup and lock screen. I was able to install it. I have no data now. The 4g signal is there but it's not lit up. I've tried resetting my phone, I've tried turning data off and on in multiple locations. This ROM is G935VVRU2APE1, but my phone's baseband is G930VVRU4API3. Could that be the problem? Is there a fix? Or will I have to go back to stock?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnorris298:
Hi everyone was curious if you could flash zips through flash fire or safestrap with a locked bootloader (stupid CID 11) or am I only able to access root and that being about it on my VZW S5. Thanks in advance! I assume flashing with a locked bootloader would softbrick.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hauckk@sfreserves.org:
Custom Kernels will cause a soft brick as will custom recovery as for lets say a sound mod zip file idk never tried it arise is a Good sound mod to try you can find it on xda
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnorris298:
Interesting, I'll look into it!
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
Today is December 5th and as-promised, Google has posted the 7.1.1 images for all the devices. Well, all of them EXCEPT the Nexus 6.

https://developers.google.com/android/ota

https://developers.google.com/android/images

Is it time to start rioting?
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
Well it should be out later today. Because they have to release update for December security patch. Maybe another 7.0 with Dec patch?

Let's see.