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[Nexus 6  General] nada324:
The same, they dont give us our 2 years of support!

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I hope that
[Nexus 6  General] miketheshoe:
Already up, 2 versions with December security patch

7.0.0 (NBD91S, Dec 2016)

7.0.0 (NBD91U, Dec 2016)
[Nexus 6  General] cris_webb:
7.0 with December patch is live

There's two builds
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
Yea I mean I know it's still early, but the images for all the other devices went up more or less simultaneously. Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel C, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5, Nexus Player, Nexus 9... all of the promised devices... all went live within a couple minutes of each other.

Good news is it's still listed on the developer preview website for the December final release...
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
This is not good. I was hoping for 7.1. Maybe it's not ready yet.

And two versions again. Now which one to flash.?
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
They gave us two years. The two years are over.

I wouldn't have faulted them if they just stopped at 7.0 for the N6, but they did promise the 7.1.1 update on their website so they should honor that.
[Nexus 6  General] cris_webb:
I'm so disappointed.

I was ready to flash.

I've never seen any difference between these builds. Personally, I'd flash the NBD91U build
[Nexus 6  General] nada324:
Yes, but i think, they can give us all versions of nougat, and after that end support!
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
K downloading same.
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
They certainly can and I hope that they do... I'm just saying that they did give us the two years. The Nexus 9 two-year date was also October 2016 and they got the 7.1.1 update so why not us!
[Nexus 6  General] vlaf:
3 images for October, 3 images for November and 2 for December, maybe the third is 7.1.1, let's see what happens....
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
It's almost Christmas, GOOGLE, be kind!
[Nexus 6  General] Taomyn:
It's always possible that the December 7.0.0 are to fix some kind of OTA update bug (I assume that normal OTA zips will appear in due course), and then the 7.1.1 will follow later.

I just wish the website at least told you what the differences are between the multiple releases.
[Nexus 6  General] rishabh1500:
Nexus 9 is getting it's 7.1.1 which released same time as Nexus 6 . So we should get the 7.1.1 update .

But we didn't wanted to be the last one ?
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
There's no doubt about 6 receiving 7.1. We just have to wait little longer.

This is all we get for now.
[Nexus 6  General] rishabh1500:
You recieved the OTA ? Or flashed it ?
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
Sideloaded.?
[Nexus 6  General] tmicrd68:
Different bootloaders.

nbd91s has bootloader-shamu-moto-apq8084-72.00.

nbd91u has bootloader-shamu-moto-apq8084-72.01.
[Nexus 6  General] becker68:
Thank you.... how is it ?
[Nexus 6  General] Fvolfrine:
Well, the only real difference I have noticed so far is the restart feature, which was long overdue. I will have to get more into the 7.1.1 changes to find out what else has changed.

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Ok, we do get the launch actions when long pressing on apps like Messenger. A nice touch, but probably not something I'll use often.

I guess that is true of a lot of features since Nougat. Nice features, but I don't use them often. Like dual screen. I use it only when I want to show it off.
[Nexus 6  General] winga45:
Bootloader and radio

Does any one have a flashable zip for the new 7.1.1 radio and bootloader
[Nexus 6  General] Fvolfrine:
I also noticed this in the settings, I thought it was a Pixel only feature.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Call and say "I'm calling about my Nexus 6". I look forward to reading their answer... :)
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
True, but have you ever used an iPhone 4 or iPhone 5 with the latest iOS? They are very slow. My dad just got rid of his iPhone 4 with the latest updates, buggy as hell. Using a device longer than 3 years is not feasible, IMO. At that point the battery is so degraded that, in reality, you no longer have a "mobile" device since you need to be near a 120v outlet at all times. I notice significant battery degradation around 1 year and am completely ready to get a new device at 2 years. Just my $.02...
[Nexus 6  General] Fvolfrine:
I agree with everything you said. I also know that as the relative newness of smartphones begins to die, people, especially those of a certain generation, will not want to have to replace a device every two years anymore. It's already starting to happen, which is why sales are starting to slow. And if we have to buy a new device are we willing to spend $800 every two years (Pixel)? That is the sweet spot that Nexus once filled, that companies like OnePlus are starting to do well.

Thank goodness anyway for custom ROMs, my brother is currently using a Samsung Galaxy S3 with CM 14.
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
My kids still use my stock rooted Nexus S 4G to play games on. The battery only lasts for ~60 minutes, but that's OK cause it limits their screen time ?
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
This isn't a merit in itself. I could install Linux Mint 18 on my single threaded P4 with 1GB RAM, and it would suck.

This is a checkbox feature that Apple can boast with and all the technically challenged people just swallow it.
[Nexus 6  General] Fvolfrine:
Ok, to get back on topic, here are the changes that I have noticed in N6 7.1.1:

Launch actions when long pressing

Restart option in power settings

Updated settings with Google Support (I have not yet tried to call and tell them I need help with my N6, though I imagine the response would be "Do you mean your N6P?")

Updated emojis (why is this a feature? Android 6.0.1, the only update to Marshmallow, had new emojis as the only real update)

Added GIFs to gboard (seems more like an update to gboard to me)

Am I missing anything?
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
While I'm still remaining hopeful, I wouldn't go so far as to say there is "no doubt." I think some doubt is definitely warranted at this point.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Same radio?
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
Well the android blog still says Nexus 6 is getting updated to 7.1.1 so im sure we are getting it sooner or later

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/12/welcoming-android-711-nougat.html
[Nexus 6  General] Candy[MAN]:
We WILL get 7.1.1...no doubt.

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Yes. Same radios for both 91S and 91U. Only the bootloader versions are different. 91U has the same version as the previous 7.0 release.
[Nexus 6  General] marianoitalianoo:
we will get it

https://blog.google/products/android/sweet-update-nougat-android-711/
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
That is the most promising piece of information I think, since it was posted today and has the Nexus 6 explicitly listed (versus looking at the developer preview page and saying "Nexus is still listed there")

This too

I guess we can put the pitchforks down.
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
Direct quote from Google

"Today, and over the next several weeks, the Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus 9, Pixel, Pixel XL, Nexus Player, Pixel C and General Mobile 4G (Android One) will get an over the air (OTA) software update to Android 7.1.1 Nougat. Any devices enrolled in the Android Beta Program will also receive this final version."

https://blog.google/products/android/sweet-update-nougat-android-711/

So definitely getting 7.1.1 ?
[Nexus 6  General] Lawstorant:
Yeah, I just don't want to wait. It's 9pm here in Poland. I don't want to end up flashing my dear shamu at 3am...
[Nexus 6  General] Homestar1217:
So what is the advantage of one over the other? Which one should we install with a factory unlocked (Motorola purchased) Nexus?
[Nexus 6  General] quicksilver53:
I'll be sitting here, semi patiently waiting.
[Nexus 6  General] tmicrd68:
72.01 is the current bootloader. Have no idea why there is 72.00 version in other image.
[Nexus 6  General] Homestar1217:
Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] zidave:
Here we go again with the "next several weeks". So maybe by the new year?
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
Yep, we got something to look forward to. They got nothing.
[Nexus 6  General] sirob71:
The delay for the Nexus 6 might be because it's a 32bit processor.

All current 7.1.1 releases are for 64bit, right?
[Nexus 6  General] bodi524:
The 6p, 5x, and Nexus 9 are 64 bit. Did the Android One devices get update?
[Nexus 6  General] nada324:
Yes, general mobile 4g got the update
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
Apparently they started getting the update late last week.

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_711...general_mobile_4g_android_one_-news-21972.php
[Nexus 6  General] bodi524:
Are they all 64bit devices?
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
64bit (the device that got 7.1.1 so far) according to:

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/General-Mobile-4G_id10093

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The 72.00 bootloader is old (dated Sept 2016) and returns the old font Google boot logo. No idea why.

Once the code has dropped into AOSP, i'll have a dig around and post up the commits for NBD91S > NBD91U.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
Ah disappointing. My nexus 5x has an update, but Shamu does not.
[Nexus 6  General] Sachin:
Android one second gen devices are 32bit. Those devices got 711 few days ago.
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
Android One General Mobile 4G got 7.1.1 last week which has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 and is 64 bit (is that first or second gen?)

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/410
[Nexus 6  General] Sachin:
Oh yeah. You're right.

General Mobile 4g is 64bit.

Now lemme clear this, Exactly there are 3 android one second gen devices which have identical specs to one another.

All the 3 shipped with LP outta box.

The 3 android one second gen devices are -

*.General Mobile 4G [64bit] [Turkey]

*.Cherry Mobile G1 [32bit] [Filipino unit]

*.i-mobile iq ii [32bit] [Thailand]

All of them receives the OTA updates at the same time. In fact, the OTA file size is same for all of them.

You can push GM_4g ota on Cherry Mobile, Cherry Mobile G1 ota on iq ii and vice versa by changing Oem.prop!

Afaik, those two 32bit devices can run 64bit Roms without issues.

That's all.

First generation?

I'd one 1st gen device, and that's of MTK SoC, Google dropped support for 1st gen devices back in September. That last ota was MOB31E.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
32-bit ROMs run on 64-bit devices but the reverse is impossible. Therefore, if all three ROMs are identical, the ROM sent to all three devices must be 32-bit.
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
The 7.1.1 sources have been released to AOSP? How can I check (link, or something)?

Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
Only for the other Nexus and Pixel devices. The shamu NBD19U hasn't landed in AOSP yet either.

For the other devices it's here:

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest/+refs
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
A lot of LOUD silence in the Android Development section. For sure our dear devs are baking the new cookies...
[Nexus 6  General] pittrich67:
For the Nexus 9 are the two years over to. But it becomes 7.1.1!?
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
The first 7.1.1. custom ROM will be Nitrogen. It will be uploaded from one moment to another!
[Nexus 6  General] 8zabi:
just use cyanogenmod, it will be updated for years
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Yeah, I don't think so. Cyanogenmod developers toss stuff into their ROMs without bothering to test it, leading to more bugs than an AOSP ROM. Fortunately, we do have good developers, and I'm sure someone will continue making unofficial builds of Pure Nexus, at least up until the point Google no longer supports a 32-bit architecture. Discussion regarding custom ROMs anyway is academic until one of two things happens: the ROM drops for our device, or Google pulls the plug.
[Nexus 6  General] suzook:
There is a 7.1.1 custom ROM out as we speak. F google, who needs them?
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
and another one is pRRepaired to be delivered soon ;)
[Nexus 6  General] Mervingio:
Coming to consumer devices soon

We're starting the Android 7.1.1 rollout today, and we expect it to reach all eligible devices over the next several weeks. Pixel and Pixel XL devices will get the over-the-air (OTA) update, as will Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, Nexus 9, Nexus Player, Pixel C, and General Mobile 4G (Android One) devices. Devices enrolled in the*Android Beta Program*will receive the final version as well. As always, you can also download and*flash this update manually.

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/12/welcoming-android-711-nougat.html?m=1
[Nexus 6  General] kidhudi:
Where I can only see 7.1.0
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
Except that you can't "download and flash this update manually" for the Nexus 6 because they haven't posted it. :(

The "over the next several weeks" line is supposed to refer to the OTA rollout process, not the images. If there's an issue with the Nexus 6 and it's not ready, they should say something. This is the same crap as with the original 7.0 update where it was delayed for what felt like an eternity with ZERO communication from Google.
[Nexus 6  General] nedd1:
Has there even been a developer preview of 7.1 for the Nexus 6? I think there are issues with getting 7.1 on Nexus 6 and we will be waiting, if we get it at all
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
No. Not like having a developer preview even helps in that regard anyway... Google had 5 versions of developer preview to get 7.0 figured out on the Nexus 6 and they were still late with that one by a month and a half.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
It wouldn't surprise me if Lenovorola was the culprit behind the delay.
[Nexus 6  General] IparryU:
[ROM] ► [7.1.1] ► [shamu] ► Nitrogen OS N ► OMS (Substratum) ► (06.12.2016)
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
7.1.1 sources are already out, so more custom will come sooner or later:)
[Nexus 6  General] wazza1991:
My Nexus 6 is laggy and slow on 7.0, even after a fresh install. Also the new radio on 7.0 has reduce the signal strength. The one on the dev preview was good. Looks like they stopped caring about our device since it has completed 2 years. I just hope 7.1.1 fixes all those issues. :good:
[Nexus 6  General] Didgeridoohan:
No such issues here...
[Nexus 6  General] HTC_FUZE:
Agreed. especially camera, lagging, tap the shutter but take 2 second to shoot
[Nexus 6  General] cdaly1970:
2nd that. 7.0 is awesome on my N6...

-C
[Nexus 6  General] demarcmj:
I'm not noticing any signal strength issues, but Nougat has definitely been laggier than MM for me. Custom kernels seem to be less laggy than the stock kernel, but still not as snappy as MM.

On Stock and Stock+ ROMs I think the camera has been about the same as it's always been (which is admittedly slow). I'm using Pure Nexus right now (until 7.1.1 drops at which point I'll go back to stock... living without WiFi Assistant working is killing me) and I've noticed that the camera is noticeably laggier than usual.
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
Why are you guys not just installing a custom rom.

My N6 is faster on opening apps than my friends pixel with stock:)
[Nexus 6  General] quicksilver53:
I installed a Pixel master apk and my shutter speed is very quick now.
[Nexus 6  General] sebcio2804:
Sooo is that official that we dont get 7.1.1?
[Nexus 6  General] aceallan:
I search everyday looking. I hope we do because i don't want to flash
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
You installed what?
[Nexus 6  General] quicksilver53:
Asus Pixel Master apk. It works much better that Google camera in my opinion. Faster shutter speed.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
"Sooo is that official that we dont get 7.1.1?"

No.
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
Did you read the thread?
[Nexus 6  General] SynisterWolf:
January
[Nexus 6  General] immiMIK:
Looks like it. Or maybe Google will surprise us and deliver before Christmas.
[Nexus 6  General] aroy97:
Honestly, there's ROMS released on 7.1.1 already which anyone can use, don't see what the big deal is
[Nexus 6  General] MartinN6:
I´m not sure if we will get 7.1.1 at all.

It would be still released!

There are some new "flagships" from Google - who cares about "this old devices Nexus 6" .... :mad:

(I´m sorry for my sarcasm)

I flashed crDroid 7.1.1 - works pretty good ... :p
[Nexus 6  General] adm1jtg:
Those roms are using pieces like device and blobs from 7.0 They were never optimized or really made for 7.1.1 a new release always contains updated versions of these things which the aforementioned roms do not have as they have not been released.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
What he said. Any 7.1.1 roms out there are not complete 7.1.1 they are a mix of 7.0, 7.1 and 7.1.1

This is due to missing blobs for the shamu which controls things like the camera. Using older blobs can/has resulted in random reboots and things crashing. To be honest most users on XDA wouldnt even notice as they are not very tech inclined. No matter what they may think.
[Nexus 6  General] Aerys:
Wish someone could compile a 7.1.1 AOSP rom. Without any mods.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
The problem there is mods have to be done until we get the proper files. Pure AOSP 7.1.1 wont boot properly without some of the mods.
[Nexus 6  General] demonlordoftheround:
[IMG="blob"]http://www.nataliedee.com/091905/blob.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] jbeezley:
OK, I'm sure we could all boo-hoo to one another about our factory images, but I have a Nexus because I like to flash different ROMs. If I wanted to be so-so stock I'd rock an iPhone.

Come on fellas, don't be ROM snobs. Flash that whale! Nitrogen has a nice take on 7.1.1. You should give it a try if you're so inclined. It's very smooth paired with your favorite kernal.

And once the official image drops I'm sure it'll be even better :)
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
"don't be ROM snobs"

It's not a question of that. As adm1jtg & zelendel say, the existing 7.1.1 ROMs are effectively hacked from different sources and aren't actually "the real thing". If we don't finally get the official Google 7.1.1 (and the jury's out on this one - even though they say they'll distribute it to the N6, they also said that about preview 2 and failed), then I'll definitely install another non-Google ROM. And I shall also do so when Oreo comes out next year, given that we won't be getting the Google version.
[Nexus 6  General] voyageurs60:
My only desire for 7 is the dark mode. Quite happy on marshmallow. Want stable, is installing a room really worth it? Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
Yes. I'm running a 7.1.1 based ROM right now and it's plenty stable. I've had no reboots, force closes, etc. Plus it has night light, which I find very handy when using my phone in the dark. It also comes with loads of customizations, making Xposed/Gravity Box unnecessary (if you use those things).
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
It's like having a Samsung, There are custom roms for the Qualcomm ones, but they are hacked and therefore buggy. it's not being a snob, it's being accustomed to the real deal.
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
I am running 7.1.1 since the day the source was released and had not one problem.

It's the fastest I ever used. Never would let a stock rom on my shamu. Stock is so f... Slow
[Nexus 6  General] nazfalas:
I could barely name a feature you could not get on MM, but the fludity of the UI has definitely increased, boot times have decreased significantly and the most important aspect is that battery life in standby has improved tremendously on my end as doze has been improved in Nougat.

Install Francisco Franco's Naptime app from the Play Store and that increases even further.

On topic:

Being treated like a second class customer by Google with the release of factory images and the respective sources/binaries feels really bad.

My previous Nexus device was a N7 2013 LTE and even though eventually it got the same updates as the wi-fi version it sometimes took months (half a year with MM) to get the actual updates and at no point did Google update the users on the situation.

Now I have been a custom ROM user since the days of Android Donut, but Nexus devices always meant I could at least get fully working custom ROMs...

That experience and now basically the same deal with the N6 have made one thing clear: This is my last Google device (I have used plenty: Nexus One, N7, N4, N10, N7 2013, N6).

Well, with the Pixel devices now taking the place of the open Nexus devices that's not that hard of a decision anyway, right?

So...next in openness is who? OnePlus? Meh...

At least some Chinese manufacturers are trying to market their brand through XDA. Let's see what's going to come from that...#

(sry....that turned into a small rant)

Edit:

By the way, you can get something like night mode with apps like f.lux as long as you're rooted.
[Nexus 6  General] alex482:
i think the problem is the cpu , because its a 32bits cpu and the others have already a 64bits cpu and maybe its dificult make a rom for a 32 bits cpu when its create for a 64 bits cpu
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Setting up the build environment for 32-bit CPUs probably isn't that difficult. But I had thought supporting a 32-bit processor when all your other devices are 64-bit odd anyway. The only real limitation of a 32-bit processor is that it cannot fully address 4GB of memory.
[Nexus 6  General] alex482:
idk its just an idea
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Bottom line: if they don't intend to supply 7.1.1 to the N6 (I've long since given up holding my breath), then they shouldn't have been promising it for all these months. It's just plain bad manners and atrocious customer relations.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
According to Lenovorola, January. But it won't matter much to me if the patch I saw for AOSP works. Supposedly, Dirty Unicorns developers have patched the OK Google Anywhere flaw that exists to one degree or another in all AOSP-based ROMs. There is apparently discussion regarding it in the Dynamic GApps thread.
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
Do you have a source for this?
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/806125038042808321

The tweet is in German, as it is Lenovorola Germany making the announcement, but the translation goes somewhat like this. "Before Christmas: # Android7 available for Moto G / Play. In January Moto Z Play. Then: Moto X Pure Edition (3rd Gen) / Force / Style / Play, Nexus 6"
[Nexus 6  General] EeyoreSyndrome:
Sure, but for me personally, Nitrogen OS is handsdown the smoothest Nexus 6 ROM I've ever ran. And I don't even tinker with 3rd party kernels or settings.
[Nexus 6  General] mobitote:
According to this article seems N6 is getting 7.1.1

Nexus Android 7.1.1 Nougat Update: What You Need to Know

https://news.google.com/news/amp?ca...w/amp/#a-ab7d0f36-cf14-492d-b83a-85e7d73a6362

Last bit of the article mentions an estimated timeline...
[Nexus 6  General] Lawstorant:
Wow. Google said we will get 7.1, and now someone is surprised that we will get it...
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
They also said we'd get preview 2. It never materialised. We have every reason to be suspicious.