yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
I say a good start is to flash the factory image in both slots. ( remove -w from the flash all batch file so if you don't want to factory reset but dirty flashing can come with its own short falls)

Boot to bootloader

flash all bat

boot to bootloader

fastboot --set-active=a or b (choose the slot opposite to the currently active)

fastboot reboot bootloader

flash all bat

( you could use the set active command against to get back to your original slot but they are both essentially equally viable at this point)

TWRP:

Reboot to bootloader

Fastboot boot twrp

Flash TWRP zip

Reboot recovery

Factory reset

Flash PN

Flash TWRP

Boot rom

If your vendor doesn't match, you can reboot back into twrp and flash it. Same with root, you need one reboot after flashing the rom to root/flash vendor/flash anything that mods system/boot.img. You need RC2 if you plan to flash Magisk, and you n eed to flash twrp after flashing magisk or you lose custom recovery.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
These directions worked to a T. Just finished installing the latest BETA Screw'd with no hiccups except for having to flash the correct vendor image afterward. I'll see how this runs for a while.

Thanks!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Excuse all my typos
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
There was a few :p
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iamjimmy:
Which ROM is PA? Also do you prefer screwed to PureNexus? Thanks.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Paranoid Android.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Paranoid Android is PA.

Its close but I am digging Screwed more. Its only for a few reasons though, one big one is I really liked how PA implemented the pie controls. I just wish there was more customization. I went over to screwed and they have pie controls build in as well, theirs doesn't look as good as PA but I feel that they work better because I don't need to adjust the over all animation speed of the device to make it pop up quicker and you can customize it quite a bit with different targets, spacing color etc.

Other wise the customization is about on par with Resurrection Remix (give or take a few features). The battery is decent and it seems pretty smooth overall. I did have a little slow down on PN, wont say its the rom, could be something I installed like a sub theme.

PS - I Started using Pie controls when I noticed some burn in on my screen. I know about LMT for pie controls but I like built in solutions over another app if I can help it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sassmk2:
Screw'd is probably the best ROM i have tired on the Pissel :cyclops: so far!!!

Tons of customization. Incredibly smooth to run. Have had zero issues!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
I'm really liking it as well. I've had it only about 4 days yet but loving it. I've had RR and PN as well.

Pissel...........lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
I've just tried Screw'd out of curiosity, and I have to agree. Absolutely phenomenal ROM. Very impressed.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Do you happen to have stumbled upon their flashing instructions?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
It's the same as PA
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Vendor as well? PA appears to have been the latest Project Fi vendor.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Is anyone running Screw'd with a different kernel? If so, which one?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
I wanna say they require the B vendor

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I'm wrong it requires D
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
Edit: It was going so well, but discovered that I'm not getting unlimited Photo storage which is a deal breaker for me.

I know that LOS builds sometimes have this issue.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Unlimited photo storage with what?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
Google photos at original quality.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Out of Thanks for the day...

:D
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Smallsmx3:
I've been thinking about it but I don't want to go through the hassel
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
I'm talking about how Google markets their devices. Thing is if they were simply selling developer devices and making that apparent in their own write ups they would be handicapping themselves a great deal, more so than they were by barely advertising for them at all.

It's like saying the Subaru WRX is only sold as a tuner car because of how easy it is to tune. But if you ask Subaru they will market to the masses before simply saying yes it's only for that niche community.

The modding community gave Nexus devices that label, not the manufacturer/creator of them

Then again I could be missing some of their marketing and completely off the mark
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] raycaster3:
And DU will be the my go to as usual. Great to see my friend.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Ummm... Good point. I guess we can both agree that they are sold to the masses yet are feature driven for development...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] g00s3y:
Why the need to flash anything? The phone works. Finally an android phone that just works, no mods needed, amazing battery life, great camera, never slows down, never sluggish.

No need to fix or tweak what isn't broken and working perfectly.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
That's the great thing about Android is choice. You don't have to flash a thing but if someone else does and someone is happy supporting the device then everyone is happy.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bajasur:
Screenshot cropping, custom carrier label, battery mods, back 2 kill, Substratum themability, custom quick tiles, custom nav bar actions, volume skip, lock screen mods....

And more
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dragonsofcp:
I know it's only one thing listed but custom quick tiles are available. The app Quicktile in the play store and apps/mods section of this forum allows a lot of customization. Root isn't even required for most features.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Or you can add more functionality with a rom that ALSO does that but allows you to have one less app because it's native to the rom.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] larsdennert:
I read somewhere that 46% of the pixel activation's were Verizon phones. What that says to me is that lots of people bought GS/Fi non verizon ones. That's amazing and where I'd like to see phones go; away from carrier only versions.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CZ Eddie:
Did 7.1.1 source code drop yet?

I'm not finding it but am probably looking at the wrong place.

https://source.android.com/source/index.html
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mlin:
[MENTION=4854133]bajasur[/MENTION] and [MENTION=426561]Scott[/MENTION] Awesome to see you guys here! It's been awhile!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bajasur:
Good to see you too!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mlin:
Look at you, man. Forum moderator! How did that happen?!

To keep things on topic: I'm not bored. The Pixel is a revolutionary device in the world of Android. I imagine it will just take time to get things going. And, as previously mentioned, can't do much without a stable recovery and DeesTroy stated he would be unavailable for several weeks following the release of alpha 2.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jiibus:
Patience is key. People are so used to having things NOW and can't understand that most developers just do this **** for fun.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] spaceman860:
Yes it has https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest/+/android-7.1.1_r4
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CZ Eddie:
Rumor has it that Dirty Unicorns is now booting up on Pixel !!

Here's to hoping we see a release of it within the next couple weeks or so! :good:

I'm not going to bother with any other ROM releases if DU is this close to dropping.

And I heard some DU supported devices are now getting Substratum support in DU instead of the old theme manager dealio.

I hope we still get a day/night theme option though. I love me some day/night theme action!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
Hope you're right, getting the itch to flash some more of the usual suspects. Thank god for WETA rom and Swift Black Substratum helping to hold me over. Interested to see how CM plays on this device, haven't had a google phone since Galaxy Nexus.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CZ Eddie:
I have no interest in CM ROM's unless an AOSP ROM like Dirty Unicorns or BrokenOS are not available.

I think BrokenOS are still waiting for someone to buy them the phone though.

But yeah, can't wait for something nice to drop.

I think DU still has some work to do before they'll release?

I have no contact with their team other than following their Google+ page.

Early dev stuff like making sure network access works is probably still being worked on ATM?

But to know it's "booting" and actively being worked on, just really makes me "okay" with my Pixel XL purchase.

I was beginning to think it was going to be a development lemon or something.

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I ran either DU or Broken on my Moto X Pure (great freaking phone) for over a year and never once had a single crash/hang/reboot. It was 100% reliable! :good:

I only flipped back and forth between the two ROM's when I wanted either Theme Manager or Substratum.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
How does that have anything to do with the ROM? I have no issues with Google Photos on Screw'd.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
Easy tiger.

Some LOS based Roms have had issues with Google Photos storage quota in the past.

I was giving feedback about my experience with screw'd. Some people like myself rely on having the unlimited storage.

So this has everything to do with discussing the rom.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sassmk2:
I have unlimited at original quality on Screw'd...

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the photos app?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Easy tiger? I just asked you a question is all. Never heard of that issue before.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
It's weird, it says I'm getting unlimited storage when I open the App, but when I check my Google Drive storage, it's being used against my 15gb.

I've tried a reflash with no success. Maybe I'll try a newer build at some point.

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No offence was meant. My apologies.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
The unlimited storage for Google Photos is not your original quality photos, it's "High Quality".

This is copied directly from my Google Photos settings...........

Upload size for photos and videos uploaded on the web only

High quality (free unlimited storage)

Great visual quality at reduced file size

Original (13 GB storage left)

Full resolution that counts against your quota
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sassmk2:
Hmm I haven't looked at Google drive storage...going to now.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Are we talking about Drive or Photos? They are two different things.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
Pixel and Pixel XL get free unlimited storage at original quality. Been using this since launch.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsgTld8KIwBlE/?hl=by
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
hmm I didn't know that. Nice........

Looks like mine is counting against it too for the original.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
Yes that's my issue.

I've reflashed PureNexus and all is good with Photos.

Screw'd is otherwise stunning.

I don't want to hijack this thread, but thought it was worth feeding back.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
My above question got buried fast. Just replying to bump it.....
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sassmk2:
Yeah, Google Drive is using up space. Strange how it says I have full back up in the app but it doesn't actually work the way it should. I still love the ROM. Plus I don't use my camera that often anyway.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] buzzboy:
I've just gave my feedback to the Screw'd dev's on Google+.

Hopefully they can sort the issue.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Good stuff, I see your post. Thanks for doing that. Going to follow for updates.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
That's not what Google Photos should say when you're using the Pixel or Pixel XL.

It should say:

"With Pixel, back up all you want!

Unlimited free storage for original quality photos & videos uploaded from your Pixel device."

Did you flash any Gapps on the Rom? If so, which one did you use?

I've seen issues with OpenGapps reverting Photos back to the old way on the Pixel devices instead of the unlimited original quality like stock.

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Did you flash any Gapps packages after the Rom? If so, which Gapps did you flash?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
I did not flash any Gapps packages. They are in the ROM.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Oh okay. I wonder what Gapps they are using.

Are there AOSP apps in the Rom or Google Apps?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Google photos wasn't even included. I downloaded from the playstore after flashing.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Ohhhhhhh. In that case, check your build.prop to see if there are any references to other devices instead of Pixel/Pixel XL.
[MENTION=1164081]pcriz[/MENTION] do you have this issue as well?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
What is build.prop ? A system file?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
build.prop is located in the /System folder as a .prop/text file. It handles a lot of configurations of the device in terms of enabling/disabling what it can and cannot do. If you plan on messing with build.prop, please make a backup of it in it's originality on your device before you make any changes. Changing the wrong things can and will cause you to bootloop.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
I dont see anything mentioned there except for marlin.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Oh okay. I'm about to flash and give their Rom a test run. I have Project Fi so that's going to be determining if I stay or go. I'll look into the Photos thing too while I'm at it just for grins.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
Is anyone running Screw'd with a different kernel? If so, which one?

Buried again....anyone?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Says the pixel blurb
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
You can just flash a kernel and test. Elemental gets a lot of praises.

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Weird, I'm almost done setting mine up. So far I like what I see with the exception of the device not being recognised probably in the about page. It shows as a Pissel on mine. Lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jws86:
I know this...........was just asking to see what experiences were.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jamiejames:
Anyone running screwed. Is your OK Google detection working? Aka Google assistant.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Yes. Use it everyday
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Just trying to help you get to what you need. Everyone will have a different experience with every setup. So the best judge of what's best for you is you.?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] OnlinePredator:
The price of the phone is what is killing dev. I bought the Pixel thinking there would be good dev support, but yea I think because it is overpriced and one of the most expensive android phones on the market - this is severely hampering the dev pickup. I remember within a few months I had miui on my 6P, even less on OP3. Seems Pixel will only ever get AOSP or CM.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iamjimmy:
Thanks a bunch for the detailed response. That is definitely helpful.

I might go ahead and try Screwed. The reason I kept using PN was because of this forum.

I thought that ROMs hosted outside XDA would have limited support, since there was no forum to discuss issues and limited users who install it, and therefore real world bugs might not be known.

Whereas for Devs who post their ROMs on XDA, tons of people install it, there are lots of discussions and most bugs are ironed out.

But if you guys vouch for Screwed, I will definitely try install it. Thanks again.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Screwed handled a lot of their discussion on Google plus
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
While we wait for Beans to recover, I may give Screw'd a shot as well! Seems like people who are on it, are happy with it lol

Update:

Officially on Screw'd now, and got a chance to navigate around the phone/Screw'd settings - so far pretty good!

Two things that sort of bugged me though

1. PN has the option to have power+vol down to take a full screenshot and power+vol up to take a selectable area screenshot, kinda wish Screw'd had this as well

2. Pressing the recents navbar key is a tiny bit laggy; takes about half a second for recents to show up
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sassmk2:
I also have the same thing in my photos app. Says I have a Pixel device so get unlimited photo back up...but I took a 2 minute 4k video and waited for it to back up in the app.

Checked my Google Drive storage before and after.

Before the video uploaded I had 10.18 available

After the video uploaded I had 10.22 available.

So it definitely is not working as it should.

Have you looked at your Google Drive storage at all?

Just curious is all.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jhs39:
It's not the price of the phone that's killing dev on the Pixel. The dev for Magisk has said there may never be an official version of Magisk that works on the Pixel because the phone is very complicated to develop for. If you look at custom kernels for the Pixel almost none of them offer alternatives to Google's stock governor that actually work properly on the Pixel. The ability to change the working governor is literally the most fundamental feature of a custom kernel and it's virtually non-existant on the Pixel. Google has an entirely different philosophy with the Pixel than they did with the Nexus devices. The Pixel is their I-phone. Google wants people to run pure Android on the Pixels. They made these phones difficult to develop for, difficult to flash on and difficult to root. I've probably never owned a premium Android phone that had less development than the Pixel or one that was more of a headache to flash on. This is quite literally the only smartphone I have ever owned where I am actually running stock Android and the reason is that I came to the conclusion that the benefits of flashing a custom rom simply don't outweigh the headaches involved with flashing and trying to maintain working root and safety net. If you like flashing and customization the Pixels have to be among the worst smartphones you could possibly own.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
Yeah a few of us have mentioned this issue before but not sure where to go to fix it. My guess would be the base LOS code needs to be looked at but it is possible that Google has some kind of background check for custom ROMs etc that restricts it even though Google Photos sees it as unlimited.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sliding_billy:
I am happy enough to have root and TWRP for .zip installs, though the fact that TWRP seams to have stalled with semi-functionality (one version working for backup/restore while another works for installs) along with the revolving door of SuperSU versioning leaves me less in the mood to flash than ever before. Add to that the monthly Google releases and I will probably live with rooted stock and no ability to hide root along with a once a month update. The next major public Android OS release will make things even messier I think. Thanks to all who are working on this device and have got the development as far as it is!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pcriz:
Oh man here we go.

Please show me where Google has been super development friendly ever. They've even gone as far as taking court action against devs. They make the source available as they do for every other build. They have never made a point to tell devs exactly how to do something.

It's never been about making the development scene easy

You need to give credit where credit is due and given that you aren't a Dev you seem to think that root and recovery was a piece of cake everytime it happened just because I did happen.

The other thing is that one of their goals is to make the devices more secure for the average users, you know the roughly 96% of the consumer market. The ones that actually influence market trends.

So now the file structure has changed you're crying that this is the iPhone of Google. El oh El chicken little.

If this was an iPhone you wouldn't be unlocking any bootloader, if this was an iPhone there would be no twrp, if this was an iPhone you couldn't flash anything on it. You couldn't even side load an app. Just because things aren't as easy (FOR THE DEVs), you have to revert to this low effort "zomg it's an iPhone now".

Hell the only difficult thing about flashing right now is having to reboot between the rom and gapps/su/kernel/etc.

The fact that you say you have never owned a premium Android phone that is this difficult flash on is a testament to a very narrow view of Android it self bro.

There are tons of Android phones where it was either a pain, nothing worked, or you couldn't flash at all. But instead of appreciating that fact, you give this low hanging fruit argument of this is their iPhone.

Please don't claim to know their philosophy, I'll tell you what their philosophy is, "make as much money as we can".

They never cared about you, or governor's, or root.

If they don't want you to develop on it why "make it more difficult". They are in a position to make it impossible lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iamjimmy:
Is this an issue on PureNexus ROM as well? I just saw that Google Photos say "unlimited storage on Original Quality".

However when I go on Google Drive - photos seem to occupy some space.

Does that mean, in effect, we do NOT have unlimited photo storage on Custom ROMs?

Thanks.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zelendel:
To play devils advocate here.

Google didn't have to post any code at all to aosp. They are not obligated to post it in any shape or form so by them doing so is being more developer friendly then any other OS available at the moment.

Now does Google care about people? No. We are all just parts of a percentage on a graph.

As for making it impossible to root you are right but they know that would be the a bad choice. As like with all the other major oems. They need to appeal to the tech savvy crowd first. They we we are the ones people come to for device suggestions.

Will root die? Not completely. But there will always be devices that can not be rooted or modded in any way. This has to happen for security. No company is gonna allow the use of an insecure OS when it comes to dealing with their private info.