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[Samsung Gear S3] tommy1945:
with bluetooth version: (I have an old gear 2 neo).

1. I can make calls when paired with the phone.

2. I don't need to manually switch the pairing from car to watch.

3. I ordered the Classic model (please make sure that you buy the international one), since I like how it looks, and don't want to pay to the cellular company. The Frontier has 2 variants, if you like it more than the classic - you should make your choise.
[Samsung Gear S3] dungtran88:
Thank you so much, guys. I've finally decided to get the BT version of the watch. No matter how much I convince myself, I can't seem to go with the LTE with $100 more and commitment to a monthly payment without much benefits other than not the stand alone function. Love yall Love the community. :victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
It's a little bit like, which came first, the chicken or the egg? We always have our phone because there is no other viable option. When there is another option, we'll find numerous reasons to leave our phone behind.
[Samsung Gear S3] Y0sHii:
True i went for the LTE version because i just hate not getting the most out of a device. Im going to

Try

to leave my phone home one day and go a complete day with just a watch.
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
Having a 3G allows me to keep my phone nearby but not on me. So it's somewhere in the house when I'm at home, it's left in the car when I'm out and about, it's in the desk when I'm running around at work...
[Samsung Gear S3] glumardok:
I would prefer the LTE version, if it was available in Germany. The reason is that my phone as well as the Gear S3 can hold only ONE bt connection. My phone, however, needs the bt connection. This means that every time I enter my car I must disable the bt connectivity in the Gear S3. Very complicated and time consuming. If the Gear S3 has an own LTE modul, a wifi connection (hotspot open in the phone) suffices in order to receive and reply to notifications (WhatsApp, SMS and others). I am wondering whether I can find a solution for my problem in IFTTT...
[Samsung Gear S3] beryenbeh:
thanks for this! i'm leaning towards getting the LTE version. the extra $100 i dont mind paying. but i thought it was only $5/month? how come someone else said $12/month. is this true?

i'd like to try not having my phone with me all the time. problem with this is, i have a few group chats with friends through whatsapp and also have to be on my phone to check my fantasy basketball league lol
[Samsung Gear S3] tommy1945:
I bought a Gear S3 classic (no LTE). I don't think that the watch could replace the phone. By the way - the Classic has GPS and WiFi connections.
[Samsung Gear S3] richierich118:
Get the LTE version you can't go wrong had my gear s1 number changed to my gear s3 and I wouldn't go back to just Bluetooth. I keep my phone on me all the time but for those moments when you forget it and your all the way from home it will count it has for me. Now that I can use it to pay at the store is a bonus.
[Samsung Gear S3] tommy1945:
I am an owner of the gear s3 classic, there are several problems - please keep them in mind before buying:

1. When Bluetooth is ON - GPS doesn't work. That means that the GPS connectivity is on only when the watch is Standalone (not connected to Phone).

2. In order to connect to the car - have to disconnect first from the pone, and vice-versa.

3. Doesn't support EndoMondo healths application, only S Healths, which is much more inferior.

I don't have either of these problems with my old Gear 2 neo!

In conclusion: it is a stupid smartwatch.
[Samsung Gear S3] Ziken:
[MENTION=4891672]tommy1945[/MENTION] O_o i think you're not even following the original Thread...the OP asked about BT vs LTE...not your opinions about the smartwatches...

I've been looking around and still wanted to know, but thanks folks for the answer. I believe I'll go with the BT version over the LTE. Seem like the only available LTE out there are TMob or AT&T...And I don't like AT&T since I know that it'll come bundled with DirectTV apps, which I do not need. I don't know what apps that TMob will put on their watches...But I think I'll go check it out later. And do a apps comparation.
[Samsung Gear S3] Redflea:
Bluetooth version works for the majority of us who always have their phone near...the only downside I've noticed is if I'm at home and have my phone on a charger on the desk, then I can't start a call on the watch I can't walk down to the street out front to take out my trash w/out losing the call (much > than 30 ft away). Ask me how I know that. ;)
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
The AT&T apps can be uninstalled. The bigger issue is that they don't offer a wearable plan for non customers, so it must be put on a smartphone plan, which is cost prohibitive for most use case scenarios.
[Samsung Gear S3] Ziken:
Really? I thought you could just unlock it and somewhere else? Or does having a LTE required to be tethered to the phone?
[Samsung Gear S3] tommy1945:
Mr. Ziken, I think that I have to explain especially for you why my answer is relevant for the thread: If it is important for you not to have my troubles, you should opt for the LTE version. I have a lot more info related to the BT version, but won't bother you with it on that thread.
[Samsung Gear S3] Ziken:
If you can, please PM me your infomation. I'm still trying to make the choice between BT and LTE version. The only reasons I'm considering it is because I'm still trying to figure out the differences between the two and I'm trying to get the best out of it. I'm currently on a prepaid plan, and from what I'm able to understand, to get a LTE function, AT&T requires that you have a plan with valid smartphone plan or I can go to T-Mobile, but I don't know what they will do?
[Samsung Gear S3] tommy1945:
If you own a Samsung phone, and don't mind to carry it with you - the bluetooth option is perfect. If you are an owner of a non-Samsung android phone, even a very appreciated model (like myself) - please don't buy the BT version, because of the problems I already wrote about (but may be you don't mind them, if you don't have to switch from one BT connection to another one. I personally use 3 BT devices: car, earphones and of course the watch, and it is troublesome. In that case, I would consider to buy the latest Google's Android OS watch. If you own an iPhone, it is well known that the pairing is not successful at all, and in that case you can only opt for the LTE version (I personally wouldn't buy it either). Of course, the disadvantage of the vs is that you should buy a cellular plan for it, and you cannot connect the watch to the phone via BT. I don't know exactly how the LTE model works, but grosso-modo that is the situation.
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
To be clear, AT&T or T-Mobile will sell the S3 as a solo device. They will require it be put on a monthly plan at time of purchase. For new customers (not bringing their phone), at T-Mobile this will cost $15, at AT&T it will cost $50. If the watch is purchased at full price (not on contract) the plan can be canceled at any time, including immediately. The net effect is the LTE variant cost about $75 more than the BT only variant.

I bought my S3 from AT&T. The watch my only line of service I have with them. Mine is postpaid, but someone here has reported being able to put it on a GoPhone plan.

Choosing which S3 to get is simple. If you always have your phone and just want the watch as a second screen for notifications, get the BT model. If you have any scenarios where you will be greater than a few feet away from your phone, get the LTE variant. If you're an iPhone user, get the LTE model (plus a cheap Android phone to pair it to).
[Samsung Gear S3] Tel864:
You too? I was talking to my daughter yesterday while walking to the mailbox. I couldn't figure out why she was breaking up so bad until I went duh! I actually made it almost to the mailbox which would be a good 50 to 60 ft away before I lost her completely.
[Samsung Gear S3] Sirdragonx:
I have the LTE version and couldn't live without the standalone capability. I take it to workout without my phone and stream spotify. Only issue I have is that streaming spotify over LTE kills battery quick but last enough for a workout.

Only issue I have with LTE is updates are controlled by carrier. I haven't gotten any updates since I got the watch and I understand that there are several including one that improves GPS lock.

That is the only thing I would change but for me LTE is best for me. I am a tmobile customer and when I got the watch I got the add a line free plan so it only costs me the taxes.
[Samsung Gear S3] Ziken:
Thank you. And yes, I happen to have a Samsung Galaxy S7 myself. That why I was interested in it.

So, for the LTE, I can connect it to my phone? If not, then I think I'll probably just stick with the BT, since I don't worry about GPS as I don't do outdoor exercise that much, and if LTE is only required mainly so I can have a phone function, then maybe I'll stick with the BT. And if it was possible to do that, I'll see if I can get AT&T LTE model, but if what someone posted here is correct, then AT&T stuffs can be uninstalled, which is awesome, since I don't plan to get DirectTV any time soon, considering I live in the city.

The only reasons I was considering both model was mainly because I was trying to figure out, what benefits does LTE offer over BT model, aside from LTE connection.
[Samsung Gear S3] maddie01:
Can you Bluetooth connect another phone to your watch and when you leave the phone home you would still have connectivity using the number in the watch, for just $20 per month?

Is this a prepaid account or post paid? also, what did you pay for the watch...

Thanks!
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
The S3 LTE with cellular service is essentially a phone. It can handle calls and messages completely independently. Calls from a smartphone (or landline) can be forwarded to it just like any other phone. It doesn't need to be paired via BT.

The watch can only be paired with the phone it's setup with. Changing phones requires resetting the watch. Connecting via BT allows for notifications from phone apps, like email. But there is no reason to pair it with an alternate phone, because the phone doesn't need to be at hand, it can be remote connected to the watch.

Here's my scenario. I leave my phone (with no SIM) at home, connected to WiFi and it remotely connects to my watch. So all my calls, messages, emails, etc are passed through to watch. If I need to do something requiring a larger screen, I pull out my LTE iPad which is also receiving the same notifications. There is no reason for it to connect to the watch via BT. Sometimes I take my Tab A instead. Or I may take my flip phone. Or maybe my iPhone. No matter what device I may choose to carry, my watch setup (and the stationary phone is paired with) doesn't change.
[Samsung Gear S3] maddie01:
Hi, you seem to be very familiar with this so I was hoping you can help. I have a business account with AT&T with a Galaxy S7. My company will not let me access or use Numbersync due to security and the extra $10.

So, if I buy a Gear S3 LTE and put a TMobile phone number in the watch can I still Bluetooth sync my AT&T phone to the watch? So, when I am disconnected from Bluetooth the watch would work with the TMobile phone number as a stand alone phone/watch...

TMobile offers a much less expensive monthly plan for the watch account locked, like $20...

Would I be able to Forward my AT&T phone to the tmobile number when I leave the watch at home and will people see my AT&T Number or the TMobile number if I text from the watch or make a call?

Thanks for any insight into this ?
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
There are several folks (myself included) here who have their watch and phone on separate networks. It works fine, with no less functionality in most cases.

When the watch is connected via BT, its merely a remote control to the phone. Calls and messages to the phone will also go to the watch and outgoing calls will provide the phone's CID. The carrier is irrelevant.

When not in BT range, the watch will remotely connect to the phone. If it cannot connect to the phone, it will operate in standalone mode. Incoming calls to the phone won't be passed through unless call forwarding is used. Outgoing calls and messages will display the watch's CID.

If you're away from your phone and still want to receive calls to that number, use call forwarding.
[Samsung Gear S3] maddie01:
Hi, thanks very much for the information, I really appreciate it. TMobile seems to have the least expensive plan for the watch.

Unfortunately I still do not see the LTE version of the S3 Classic yet on line it in the stores? I have checked Best Buy's Website and went to TMobile & AT&T store and all they have is the Frontier. I like that model but I have the Classic Bluetooth version now and would prefer that.

My sincere thanks and I hope I can return the favor sometime... have an great week/weekend.

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You are correct, again... TMobile has this $20 per month plan for the number in the watch and AT&T means you have to go with $45/month... crazy

Have you or anyone seen the new LTE version of the CLASSIC yet??

I have the BT but waiting to sell it once I know I can get the LTE version. I do want the ability to make and receive calls without having the phone...
[Samsung Gear S3] bimmerboii:
One thing to keep in mind the Wifi version seems to get updates first/faster. The latest update for the Gear S3 frontier/classic (wifi) which added a few features was released more than a month ago. My Frontier LTE from Tmobile has yet to receive this update.
[Samsung Gear S3] darekz:
When I ordered my watch by calling tmobile, I was offered classic version but I prefer sporty variant.
[Samsung Gear S3] antrax360:
Questions guys. I recently traded my apple watch s2 for the frontier over craigslist. For some reason the watch still has lte service. So for example as the guy on top was explaining if the bluetooth option is disabled the watch would say stand alone mode. But sometimes it says connected remotely via tmobile. And its actually connected to my phone. How is this possible!? I have no plan for the watch!? The watch has its own phone number but i guess it belongs to the original owner!? So how is it able to connect to my number and not his!? Call forwarding is not enabled.
[Samsung Gear S3] rogerperk:
Keep in mind that, for TMob, their network doesn't support the watch everywhere. Seems to only work in major cities. They are hoping the Tisen 3.0 upgrade will allow lower standard lines, which would work for TMob, but not sure.
[Samsung Gear S3] afblangley:
The watch has three connection modes:

In standalone it's completely independent, not communicating with the phone. Calls and messages can only be done using the watch's number.

Remote connection means the watch is using it's cellular radio to communicate with the phone that's outside BT range (or BT is turned off). The phone could even be in another state. Messages (and apps) from the phone will be passed through.

The phone it communicates with is the one that is setup with, in this case your phone. The watch has cellular service, so the previous owner must have failed to disconnect service to that line.
[Samsung Gear S3] Krsmqn:
Late reply, but can I just pull the Sim card from my phone and use it in the lte watch when I want stand along function?
[Samsung Gear S3] vicvon:
I believe these use electronic SIM cards. So that would not be possible.
[Samsung Gear S3] BlueCider:
Looking for some help on this.

I've been considering the non-lte version of the watch, but have some concerns about it.

I have a Samsung S6 phone.

Please kindly correct/verify my understanding below:

For NON-LTE Version:

1. Watch can only connect to my phone via Bluetooth to support calling and texting from the watch?

- Does this mean I can't use Tether on my phone's WiFi for connectivity and can ONLY use Bluetooth?

2. Watch GPS function will not work while connected to phone with Bluetooth?

- Is this correct?

3. Watch cannot connect via bluetooth to my headset as well as bluetooth to my phone at the same time?

- Is this correct?

4. Watch cannot make calls and text over home WiFi with 'Wi-Fi Calling'?

- Thus, must always rely on the phone connection with Bluetooth and then use Phone's 'Wi-Fi Calling' (in case no LTE signal where the phone is)?

5. Car Connection: Is it possible to have my phone connected to my car's system(via bluetooth) while at the same time having the watch connected to the phone(via bluetooth)?

- Seems not clear if this is possible or not.

6. International Version vs US Version. Any key differences between them?

- I heard Samsung will give you the shaft and not honor a 1yr warranty on the watch if it's the International version and something goes wrong with it. True?

Finally, is there a way to browse all GEAR S3 apps without having the watch?

I want to inspect what types of applications are available for the watch prior to making a purchase decision for the watch.

Thanks!
[Samsung Gear S3] celsius888:
Hello everyone -

I’m researching about the Bluetooth connectivity of my newly purchased Samsung 42mm R815U LTE version I just received yesterday. The phone does connect to T-mobile signal even without my phone and that is great. I noticed when I use Bluetooth, the signal is much weaker compared to my husband’s Samsung Frontier (BL only) which he let me use for 1 day. I have a GearFit Pro 2 with a much better Bluetooth connectivity than this new 42mm R815U LTE version. The LTE watch will drop the BL connection after a few step away from my phone, my GearFit Pro 2 can keep the connection much farther away from my phone and my husband’s Samsung Frontier watch can keep the BL connection almost double distance than GearFit Pro 2. Has anyone heard of something like this? Is it a settings issue?

This is important to me because when I called T-mobile to buy the watch, I was told to try the LTE for a few months and then just cancel the LTE line if I find it not worthy of $10 additional – the watch still has BL I can use just the same as regular Samsung BL watch. But if the BL is weak then I would rather buy the older Frontier version with stronger BL connectivity. Thanks in advance for any input.
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s Questions & Answers] ShikharGupta:
GravityBox doesn't work on MIUI. So, I was wondering if there is any other xposed module or other ways to get the feature of sliding through the statusbar to control brightness.
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s Questions & Answers] caled:
MIUI have this feature already, slide Up to botton, it will be below the buttons.
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s Questions & Answers] ShikharGupta:
That's not what I'm talking about. But, never mind, I found a module called MIUI 8 Tweaks. It has the feature. You may try it too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mhecker66:
i´ve tried to run an RON update tp my tytn.

at all without success!!!!

every time i will get "error [262]: update error"

trying on

- Windows XP SP2 with all update

- activesync 4.5

on different machines

my tytn ist

ipl 1.01

SPL 1.09

and Schaps ROM 3.54c WWE

any idea´s for a solution

thanx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eagle 1:
Sounds like you have not read the instructions on how to upgrade your rom. There are many sources for the documentation. The easiest to understand are the upgrade guide by mrvanix. Maybe read about the unlocker/hard spl and read the wiki and mrvanix upgrade guides.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mhecker66:
i have done the upgrade for a couple of times

every time the same way.

It work perfectly until the last update to schaps 3.54c

Now i get this error message

any idea?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] barrr:
try CID unlock.....search the WIKI
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] debonairone:
Maybe this will help you out... I have posted the error codes

HERE...

ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR

This error occurs during the CE ROM code upgrade process.

Solution: If this happens, you can just soft-reset the device and run RUU again. The update process will then continue.

Note: At this stage, the Wince is destroyed; instead, it is in upgrade mode.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mhecker66:
thanx for this information

my tytn run´s fine - but the upgrade fails!!!

on the screen you can see "0% image upgrade in progress"

no further messages

on PC i´ll get the error [262]

after softreset everything seems ok

regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mrvanx:
When you run the update....select autodetect....sounds like you are running the wrong RUU for your SPL version...

....actually...update to HArdSPL v2.10 first...then run it. Your SPL at the moment is very risky to use and could kill your device......update to hardspl first.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mhecker66:
thanx mrvanx's

your advice works great...

now i can upgrade my device to the current version ;-)

regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] philipforu:
262 update error

I just recd. my KAIS130 with the following:

Hardspl 1.81.0000, CPLD 8,

RomV: 1.56.405.5

Rom Date: 8/28/07

Radio 1.27.12.11

I have used two different laptops, usb ports, WINXP pro. The active sync 4.5works fine and is connected.

Trying to load HARDSPL V7 or Alex v52.ATT.162 ROMs i get 262 Update error. With hardspl it makes the ding sound disconnects the activesync and comes with error 260. i tried to disable the USB on the PC as recommended then it does not even recognize the kaiser. Did a hard reset on the whole device, reinstalled activesync several times. Some reason it disconnects my activesync. I have been reading and reading different forums for the last several days but cannot make it work. Can someone help please
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Chiefcooker:
maybe try to disable windows firewall
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] philipforu:
Tried disabling firewall too - nothing doing.

Configured a new laptop with XPPRO with no virus protection, firewall just bare bone. Copied HardSPL v7 and ran it same thing - active sync goes away, shows on the screen verifying info. reboots the kaiser and on the laptop shows "ERROR 260:UPDATE ERROR". Anyone any idea. It seems like it just does not want to load anything on the kaiser.

15Apr - Issue resolved with the new laptop. I was able to do hardspl v1 meaning downgrading I think from hardspl 1.81 and everything seems to be ok. Now i am able to load ROM with no problem - Whew!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] maradios:
ROM HTC Cruise

Tengo la ROM de BEPE 0.67 Premium. Alguien sabe si hay alguna ROM mas nueva o mejor para prbar?

saludos y gracias.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] grafik2:
ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR

I am getting this same error, follow the recovery steps and restart teh update (to radio 1.54.30.10) and it just continues in a loop. soft resetting does not help

anyway to get this bad boy out of the updater so i can use the PDA aspect of the hermes anyway? i tried to update the radio because it has been going quirky on me and saying NO GSM at startup
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hpg:
262 error updater error

Im trying to update from WM6.1 Pro to WM 6.5 built 21159 Beta 5 ROM but Im getting 262 error updater error. How can I get it to update?:mad::eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Gowtham3:
Help with error: 262

SORRY to bother yu guys, but i think i ****ed up my X1 like i put da stock spl without downloading the original rom i already had an uploaded cooked ROM on it and when i was flashing the stock spl i got error 262 no matter wat i do the problem isnot going away all i get in the boot screen is a message saying:

Continue to upgrade ROM

Please wait...

If anyone can help that would be greatly appreciated:(