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[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Spannaa:
It's just an android:alpha < 1 being applied to the switches for android:state_enabled="false" in either the framework drawable switch_thumb_material_anim.xml & switch_track_material.xml or/and color switch_track_material.xml

It can be changed but the switches/tracks are meant to be dimmed when they're disabled.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Yeah in direct apk modifications it could be done rather easily but not in LG's theme system. My hope is in future updates they open things up a bit. I've tried to add additional attributes and it isn't possible
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
If you look at the screenshot I posted it's actually not only dimmed but has some transparency added whereas other disabled switches are only dimmed. That's why I was pointing it out as a possible issue. The discrepancy between the disabled switches didn't make sense to me.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Yeah it is am oddball thing but i can't exactly fix it. Have to live with it unfortunately or make new toggles to try and hide their oops a bit.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Spannaa:
Sorry, when I said dimmed for disabled switches, I meant they looked dimmed because they have an alpha transparency applied to them (0.4 ish) The other switches are active and on/off with no alpha transparency. If you selected a debug app and save, the switch should become active and lose the transparency.

That's not so good - can't remember how is is in CMTE but drawable & color xmls can be replaced in substratum themes.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Cmte is by far the most versatile theme system with pretty much no restrictions. With LG they have predetermined elements listed which you can theme. If they aren't listed then no touchy! With root they could be adjusted but majority of users with this device (myself included) dont have root and unfortunately if you didn't have a rooted device the theme wont even install. Basically a small modification to each apk you want to theme to enable more theme elements would be required. I wish i knew who i could reach out to at LG to make these suggestions. It would have zero impact on performance. It's literally just addtional lines in one xml to enable it.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Spannaa:
CMTE is still missing from CM14 - that's quite a big restriction!

Personally, I think subs will be the more versatile system. It's still very early days but it's moving forward quickly and there's a lot in the pipeline.

Vendor specific systems will always be limited - good luck with getting LG to listen and move forward ?
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
It's a sad story about cyanogen right now. Theme engine could be dying because really it's just clark working on it. A lot of guys working in it were part of the inc side and i can't see them wanting to contribute to the project after getting fired. Substratum is definitely the way moving forward
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Spannaa:
Yep, the Inc looks like its doomed to non OS stuff in the future. Funnily enough, I've just grabbed a couple of cheap wileyfox swift 2s that are running Cyanogen OS for my son & daughter.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Yeah but sub needs root to work. While it's awesome, most users will not use it. Also I know I can't be the only person scared to death to root the V20.

That's why Samsung was so awesome. You could Odin out of almost anything. Also before someone says "learn adb noob" it seems you can't even LGUP back to stock because DLL files are missing.

Also I see no reason to even want to root this phone. Hell, using a custom ROM would kill some cool features on this device.

I personally love seeing the weather animations on screen lock. This is also the first device that I don't feel the need to use V4A.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I also have no desire to root mine. I have themes and that's enough for me. I'm also tired of not being ablele to use tap and pay just so i can move the clock in the status bar lol!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
LOL right
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] yobert33:
Lmao! That seems to be the only thing I ever used root for as well:)
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Skripka:
LOL same here....although it would be nice to have SystemUI Tuner back, if only to get rid of the idiotic always-on status icons in the statusbar. I don't need a constant always-on reminder eating up space in the crowded status-bar that my NFC/Bluetooth/Wifi-calling/alarm/VPN/etc/etc/etc is on, TYVM LG.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
You can turn it off.....
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Can't edit my post to add pictures.....
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Skripka:
Only by toggling off those hard/software features, unless you know of a way to get SystemUI Tuner functionality back that I am missing in the stock firmware.

They always and forever eat up space in the statusbar. Which is the gripe. Don't want to lose functionality, which the 2nd screen turn off does just that. Turning off the 2nd screen makes it worse, because full-screen apps don't show the idiot-lights in the 2nd screen....just the mainscreen statusbar-which when fullscreen is at least hidden.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Ahhh ok, for what ever reason I thought you meant second screen. You can use ADB command no root. I'll edit my post when I find the link.

---------- Post added at 03:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:09 PM ----------

http://xdaforums.com/v20/how-to/manually-doing-ui-tuner-t3493986/page8

I can't seem to find the main topic, but just use search function. Looking at the comments, this should be fine.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Skripka:
Yea we were thinking of different things. Even the stock battery icon I hate because it doesn't tell you much of anything: you're either full/half/empty/or need-to-charge....and the battery percentage option only eats even more usable space for things like useful notifications. And attached is with DPI scaling turned down as low as stock goes, at stock/normal it is far far worse.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Yes, I gave a link on using system UI tuner. It's all by adb.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
So little status update for everyone here. Basically I'm hoping to have new icons made by Sunday night if all goes well! Believe it or not it took me over two hours last night to just make one damn icon! Getting the snazzy material minimal yet detailed look is not as easy as one would think. Getting the shadows, angles, gradients etc spot on has to happen so it's taking a bit of time. Then after that I'm going to update all of my other three themes. I need to address a few minor things in all of them but can't get to that until I nail these icons and tweak a few things in Dark Material.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Can't wait!!!?

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ----------

Here

https://newcircle.com/s/post/1745/2015/07/10/tweaking-system-ui-tuner
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
fyi I'm changing the dialer on remix light and removing the fab!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Thank you!!! Now I'll let the app update and start using it again lol
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Logantbrown:
Any chance you'd consider removing the lines/dots in the settings menu on Dark Material? It's a bit busy with them, I think it might be really nice and clean without. Just curious, I'm not begging!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I can look at trying it but i make no promises on actually doing it
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Logantbrown:
Word up! Thanks for the response.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] xsisbest:
I just came here hunting for purple... I'm now on your waiting list for this one. Hopefully Santa thinks my phone has been good this year! :D
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Haha yeah my gifs were a teaser to what's to come. The thing is though that particular theme will only be available via xda labs. I cannot put that theme on Google play. Labs has less strict rules that way
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
What's the reason you can't host it on GP?
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Hasbro inc owns the rights to the name and logo so even though they don't care if i make the theme google doesn't allow it so as a precaution i can risk hosting it on google play
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Makes100% sense.

Second question, do I need PayPal to buy it? Or will a CC be OK? I don't have PayPal and I don't want to be SOL either.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I think it's paypal only on labs. Not 100% sure though
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] jthomas1987:
Quick comment and question Have the first two themes you made for the V20, the Remix Light and Dark and love both of them. Just bought the Vector and Dark Material themes. Great Work.

One question, and maybe this has been asked and answered. On the Remix Light, the keyboard has 3-dot keys on either side of the space bar, for added functions and .net, .com, and .org endings. The text color for those functions are white on the white keys. Any chance on you could fix that so they match the rest of the keyboard text color?

Other than that, the Remix Light is a great theme for me at work. I like the Dark for evenings, and mornings after I had too many beers the night before. :)

Look forward to using my new themes, keep up the great work.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I'll take a peek at that. Most likely an easy fix.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] jthomas1987:
Cool. No rush, have the other themes to play with.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] JarkMackson:
I love the Material Dark theme, is there any way to add the Remix Light dialer to that theme or do a Remix Light Dark theme?
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Theres a "remix" theme which already is dark
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] JarkMackson:
Yeah but that has the same dialer as rmthe material dark theme, I'm really interested in the dialer from the remix light theme.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I assume you mean the fab on the call button then. If thats the case don't take the next update because I'm removing it
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I see there was a different thread closed regarding themes. In case someone does the same here I'll make a thread in the general section where we can continue to discuss them.

However no rules have been broken here as there are no direct links to paid themes here as to comply with xda rules. I imagine the other thread will be appealed because there were no paid links there either.

And lastly I'll thanks all those who have supported and participated in here.

Remember to follow me on google plus if we for whatever reason experience issues out here. Great way to always stay up to fate on everything

https://plus.google.com/111385861061275979764
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
Yea, it's kind of unfortunate they closed the thread for comments. The only people hurt by that are we, the XDA end user, who have an easy to use format to directly access you guys making the themes, which provides us with a way to communicate ideas and issues. I understand XDA has a policy (which apparently hasn't even been violated, I don't know personally) but I don't see how closing the thread has benefitted anyone and actually has only hurt us regular XDA users. It's sad really. If we can't have open discussion about content created (whether free or paid content) then what's the use? I'm a bit put off by the mods decision to close the thread.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Yeah i hear ya man. It's ridiculous because no rules were violated but my guess is he didn't read the thread at all and assumed those were direct links when in fact they weren't. So he locked it for nothing and left a half assed closing statement. None of the... Hey please contact me blah blah. And then some dummy thanked him for it.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Zacharee1:
I don't want to take sides, but where does the policy say that it's only against the rules if there are direct links? The first sentence of the linked rule says:

To me, that means what it says.

Then it says:

I think I'm misunderstanding it, because I'm reading it as a requirement that all themes have a version that's just as good provided for free, and only screenshots/descriptions of that theme are allowed in the thread.

I really don't want this thread shut down, and I'm disappointed that the other one was, but I'm really confused.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
Without defining terms it can be interpreted either way. What I mean is what qualifies as "advertising"? Does merely discussing? Screenshots? Links to Google+? So as a legally minded person (I'm not a lawyer but have studied the law extensively out of mere interest and wanting of knowledge) that would be my first question. In situations like this, words, terms, phrases, etc. need to be defined before absolute consequential outcomes can be determined. The language used in that bit you posted is not specific enough to conclude that the TOS was violated in any way. Perhaps there is more specific language used in the TOS (I'm not going to waste my time digging into this because I don't care) but if that is all there is then I would say XDA needs to look at their TOS again and clear a few things up.

Also, the second part you posted deals with exactly what Mark is saying and that is no links to the themes were posted directly from the thread. But people were merely discussing the themes and links were shared to google+ pages. the language is "If you want to post links to paid themes then you must ensure you meet the following requirements", so everything said after that is only dealing with that condition and cannot be isolated to any other case. The condition stated before specific rules are listed is the condition for which the rules apply.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
What it means is you can't post a direct link to a paid theme without posting a free version too. Since no links at all were even posted, no rules were broken.

Keep in mind vanessa didn't quote the actual rule. She gave her interpretation of the rule. The rule states you can't post a paid link without a free one too. The rest is just commentary by her.

So let's not stress over this for now guys.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Zacharee1:
I think that makes sense...

But I also agree that the terms need to be clarified. The mod obviously thought advertising meant making a thread to announce the existence of the themes.

I'm not sure :(
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Read my last reply dude. Remeber that post she made contains additional commentary by her. It's not 100% quote from their rule book.

Anyway i don't want to have any more posts about this guys. Ideally I'm hoping to post later that i have an update coming. So please everyone let's get back on topic.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Update!!!! The suspense is killing me lol
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Ok guys I passed out last night but I'm back at it today so I'm hoping to get something done today and then see what you guys think of the changes I'm making. Now just to beat a dead horse one last time. Go check my op and I've actually posted rule 11 in there which is the official rules of xda with no side commentary by a mod. Let me save you the trouble though. It states that I can post on xda (provided of course I don't post a direct link) to be able to get user feedback and offer support. That's all I've done here and that is the purpose of the thread evidenced by my consistent participation and also asking for feedback on several changes or additions I debate making every now and then. So there should be no reason for this thread to get shut down. I believe the other one did as if you step back and look at it objectively you see post 1 basically like this: "theme 1" .... link... "theme 2" ....link.

So in that sense I can see how that could be interpreted as a sales only post. Mind you mase didn't make any of the themes and was just trying to help a few guys out. His heart was in the right spot though but from a rule 11 pov that comes off as more of a sales pitch than anything. I've told Chris and Charles in our group hangout a few times that they should really make their own thread a few times so I expect that both will do that now and should be fine moving forward since they both do participate with everyone and ask for feedback etc.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Is there any way you can do a Star Trek lcars theme? I see them in the PS, but they are very ugly. I know I can't be the only Next Generation fan.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
New dark material update is nice Mark. Definitely like the normal style font more. Wish the lines in the settings were removed but no biggy. Thanks
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Maybe!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Thanks. I wanted to get this done a few days ago! I'll have something without the dividers in the future for ya
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
In case you guys weren't aware Dark Material update is live. Feel free to post some screens or whatnot guys. Hoping you guys like it better now.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
1 small thing, the message app is out dated. Is it possible to make it grey?

Other then that, loving the new icons.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Tried it, didn't look right. Tried every color imaginable. Blue seemed to be the best
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Ah ok
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] jayochs:
new icons look good mark! keep it up
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Remix light update is next. It's actually pretty much ready but I'll have it pushed out tomorrow. A few minor things i need to do.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
might be a bug with your default lockscreen wallpaper. On my end it was really blurry/low res. No big deal for me as I use my own wallpapers but wanted to let you know that in case it is an issue.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Logantbrown:
Yay!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Accidentally put the wrong one there! Opps

Fixed
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MoistPicklez:
[MENTION=5098295]markbencze[/MENTION] I sent you an email regarding LG Home+ Theme development.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I've had several people ask me this and i will give you the same advice i gave them. This is where you start. http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172/page1

You need to grasp that system before going any further. Most people don't seem to like that response and were hoping to skip that and dive right in but if you truely want to learn and get good there are no shortcuts.

Gotta crawl before you can walk.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MoistPicklez:
Excellent thank you very much I'll definitely look into rro layers I did some CM11 themeing back in the day so I best be catching up. If I get serious and start to adjust my learning curve I'll try and get ahold of you at a later date when it's convenient for you. Cheers!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
playing around with some ideas again!

Nothing finalized of course but we're getting somewhere!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I think we know what this means!!!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] kenbrownstone:
Just bought your red one..Looking forward to a orange if you get board one day.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Thanks man. Oh i won't have to be bored to do orange!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] kenbrownstone:
I'm just a big Vols fan
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
A buddy of mine who imo was the greatest theme designer ever made a cm theme call "the vol" that was insane. It was orange and it rocked
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] kenbrownstone:
I was the reason he made it..lol...loved that theme
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Ah so you knew Darryl? I was talking to him over the weekend! I miss his stuff.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] kenbrownstone:
Yep he was great at what he did ..It was several years back

Your no slouch
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] jayochs:
that Optimus one would be sweet without the Optimus stuff lol. like the color scheme is very nice.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
You mean decepticon. I may do teo versions. One pure purple and one as decepticon
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Thanks man. He taught me a lot of things over the years.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] BROKEN1981:
Loving the dialer!
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
Might I suggest you do a light theme similar to remix but without the different looking top bar with the angled lines. I know your plate is full but I figured I'd throw that out there. I'd love to have some light theme options but I just don't like that top bar with the light theme. As always, thanks for your work.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] jayochs:
whoops sorry lol was never huge into transformers ?
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
I've actually been debating removing the action bar for a standard style. In fact i almost did last night. Could be a reason for the theme not doing well
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Skripka:
I kind of like it, but whatevs. It is good :) Light themes are kind of a tough sell. Most people familiar enough with themes to know what is possible want to get as far from #whiteuimustdie as possible.

Am I crazy or did you change the lockscreen clock font back to something Helvetica last night? Granted I may have been intoxicated at the time...LOL.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Yeah the font needed to be changed. When using 24 hour clock half of the numbers would get cut off and that's clearly a problem. Also it is unreal how many people were sending nasty complaints over fonts in general. I can see their point because iddly enough the font in themes only applies to a few elements like dialer, clock and not system wide so to some it could really be annoying. I felt that i best address it for consistency throughout the theme. Lucky you being intoxicated last night! Mmmmmmm booze
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Zacharee1:
[MENTION=5098295]markbencze[/MENTION] This is a weird request, but how difficult would it be to release another theme, which is mostly the same as Material Dark, but with the accents more green (#4caf50) instead of real?

I'd be completely willing to pay $1.50 for it, but I also understand if you think your time would be better spent on another amazing theme.
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aODV9Vi8Gds
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Zacharee1:
Idk if that's yes or no :p
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Well I'm not sure if thats the exact hex I'll use but green is on the table for sure
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Zacharee1:
Great! I gave that value because it's what my Nova Launcher accent is set to :p
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Swizzle82:
Stock green ?.. Lol.. You know I'm gonna keep poking at it until..
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] imucarmen:
You could do that pixel light theme just by changing the top bar to standard, making it darkish medium gray, notification dark grey with white icons, blue settings menu icons with no lines and a standard font. Got yourself a pixel theme which I know would sell amazing.

http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/original/56/23/63612898364384/0/636128983643845623.jpg

http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/original/64/80/63612903283288/0/636129032832886480.jpg
[LG V20 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Negan:
Theres one issue. This is why it hasn't happened. There are icons in the action bar ie search and a few others. These colors are tied to the settings icons for each category. So if i went with a dark action bar the icons need to be set to a light color like white. But that also changes the settings category icons. And on a white background for the settings app and we end up with white on white. There is a slight workaround but it requires putting a background on each settings icon to pull it off. For now a pixel or stock aosp light theme is off the table. Unless i have a breakthrough of course