yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] vol123:
Which Rom?

And.....YES! I am a little bit further, I now know what is on my elf:

=== NBHextract v1.0

=== Extract contents from HTC NBH files

=== (c)2007 xda-developers.com

=== by: pof & TheBlasphemer based on itsme perl scripts

Device: ELF010000

CID: DOPOD001

Version: 1.14.710.2

Language: USA

Extracting: 00_Unknown.nb

Extracting: 01_SPL.nb

Extracting: 02_MainSplash.nb

Encoding: 02_MainSplash.bmp

Extracting: 03_ExtROM.nb

Extracting: 04_GSM.nb

Extracting: 05_OS.nb

Now trying to find a good ROM, anyone an ID how to get my elf back working?

(the only thing it does is hang in "smart mobility" screen or I can boot into bootloader, that is all.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] euromusic:
this topic is foir the surface rom we are all waiting for.

i don't think you're post has to be here. don't blame me if i am wrong i am new here:p
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Bijdehandje:
Hey Bram,

Any news about your new phone and offcourse the new surface rom? I'm beginning to get real qurious now :D Hope you got some good news for us.

Greetz Marco
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
hey guys,

First of all i want to announce that my daughter is born yesterday!!

So i wat quite off these days, but i wanted to share this with you guys.

Secondly the progress on buying a touch is getting better, still negotiating!

So build will start soon(but it goes slowly becouse all of the diapers to clean and ****)

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Chip57:
Congratulations, Bram. :)

I wish you and your family have a good time.

Hope for all of us that your daughter is a sweet and easy kid. Just kidding.

Wil
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Congrats Sir Dad.

More sleeples nights for you then.

I was wondering when everyone was due.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cstewart:
As a proud father of a beautiful daughter, I can tell you that this is the best part of my life. I wish you joy in this new journey.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
Bram congrats :D

what's her name ? and i think you turned around your sentence about the diapers and ****. i think it should be all the **** in the diapers :P:P

But once again i congratulate the proude father.

Greetz
[Touch GSM ROM Development] zyncmaster:
Congrats Bram... :)

Looking fwd to your new rom... Not in a hurry though! Noonski is more than keeping the Touch enthusiasts happy these days... :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I heard her name was Surface ...

But that might be the Whiskey talking.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Haha, thnx all,

Her name is Robyn, and she's beautifull!!!!

i'm off to the hospital again, becouse she's still there.

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Gefeliciteerd :)

I became a father about 8 weeks ago, a son. One tip: prepare for one big rollercoaster-ride... :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
Hieperdepiep hoera !

Congrats Bram with you daughter !
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Jossie67:
Bram congratulate,

I'll have to wait for 13 week, before I will be a dady to :)

Mzzl
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Trekvogel:
Gongratulations on becoming a father!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nion:
Congratulations Brams
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Bijdehandje:
I guess we'll have to wait a littlebit longer on the next Surface then, but hey... it's for a verry good cause. :D Congratulations Bram with the birth of your daughter. I have a daughter off allmost six years now but i can tell you that every new day is a day of joy. Hope everything is ok with the little one and the misses. Again congrats!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gvanlee:
Van Harte!

Congrats Bram!

And should you have any left overs of my donation, feel free to spend it on your daughter ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] CorradoC:
Congrats

Congrats, Bram.

I hope it will be a fantastic journey through your life as my 3 daughters were for me :-)

Take a lot of pictures: babies grow so fast and our memory is not yet so powerful to remember them so cute...

Happy life.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Missed that one.

Good thing i re read a bit.

Old habits from Wizard forum.

STICKY STICKY STICKY MAKE IT STICKY.

Make Bram Sticky come on guys let's get him up there so i don't need to search for his thread.

And i also wanted to know...? What was your favourite Wizard Rom to restore to Bram?

Love, or T-Mobile?

Oeps crossposting
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
For real i was having a hard time fixing my practicly brand new WizardGfrikkin4 a week and a half ago.

Have you tried the last Dutch T-Mobile?

I know you don't need Dutch but hey It's worth a try.

And why not just have your provider in your sig so i don't need to go over multiple pages. To not find it.

I hope your sorrows are over now BTW.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hey hearty congratulations to you bram. i am yet to marry but when time comes, will take lessons from you for changing diapers :D congarts once again
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dimushor:
congrats man!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
I can see a new name for Surface comming.

Robyn => Robijn (dutch) => Ruby (international)

A logo with a beautiful red gem reflecting Robyn her face.

Nice for the splash screen ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DaPozt:
Will this release ever be released? I do understead all circumstances but we are waiting for a REALLY long time. Whenever this one is finished, it's based on a old rom again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Trekvogel:
Relax...

The man is making this is his spare time. I imagine he has better things to do at the moment, with a new-born child and all. I would love to see the rom released just as much as everybody else here but some things are more important than others.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Nope i think Bram was working on something really different, not just the old rom on a WM6.1 base.

I do have to say that despite my personal view and preferences, his previous NL surface is the only ROM i have ran more than one day on my device (other then..). and believe me for me that is a frikkin Compliment.

And if BRam was really intending to just bring out that surface but then WM6.1 it would.......

Arr, let the dad enjoy his new responsibilities.

I know Bram feels a great responsibility to every poster and user to do something special. and indeed bring out a new Surface.

He deserves his time of.

Surface 6.1 version not soon.

But thanks to Bram's surface NL i have now learned and...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
what is so good about this surface rom?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
It's aimed at a regular user and has more then the default apps.

And has some nice graphics designed by BRam himself exclusive for Surface.

And it's the only Custom Dutch rom around.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] CorradoC:
Bram, I know your life is changed in thapast days, and I'm very happy for you.

But I just want to ask you if you got a chance to work on your surface rom since you got your new device.

Yes, we all are waiting for your work :-)

let us know.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] clarkee:
Still tired of waiting for this? Why not try another rom that has already been released and get on with your lives:

Blue Elfin or even Blue Touch.

Seriously, it's been almost a month since this was meant to be released. It was waaayy back in post #618 that the phone died (that was the 8th February).

I tried injecting some common sense and comminuty spirit back in post #642 but apparently this rom is so great that nobody else be trusted to look at it unfinished (pretty laughable scenario don't you think - considering it's still not here).

Also, why does this thread say you're still collecting? You cashed out the money on the 14th February in post #703, which should have taken 5-7 days to get to your bank account (his words!). And seriously, it doesn't take 2 weeks to buy a phone handset. The last update to the donation counter was on the 13th Febuary and it stood at €182,66 EUR. What is the total now? I'm sure that 2 weeks later that there would be more than enough cash to buy something like this or this or even this!

Before someone bleats on about how he's making it in his own time, I think he should respect that if he's expecting people to pay for his new phone then he should be expected to actually deliver something - after all it even had a release date - it should take little to no work to get released.

There was also the suggestion that he use the money to take out a contract with a mobile operator so he gets the free handset. The money would easily pay for a large portion of a 12 month contract!

My advice to visitors - get a different rom, don't donate.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Clarkee has a point here. Sure Bram's situation is 1st priority for him, but posts like this, and questions regarding the e.t.a. for this ROM are legit when "people start paying (or donating, as some may call it) for a ROM". I mean, some may feel that since they donated an amount of money, they have some right to ask questions like what the release date will be etc.

In other words: Bram could easily avoid this and simply post updates more frequently, just to let people (who donated) know about the status. Hell, if not on these forums, simply send 'm an e-mail ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] scopes64:
Can I offer a suggestion. Why dont we get Bram to close this thread. Then get admins to lock it and put all this to rest. Even go as far as changing the subject line so it vanished down the thread list.

If you have donated and feel you have some skin in the game why not just drop a PM to Bram.

When Bram is ready to recommence development, be it when he gets a new device or when he has more free time (Personally I feel he is right to concentrate on family as his priority), then Bram can create a band new thread. I am now post #772 and to be fair only a handful of all these posts have been about the new Rom.

I say close it and we can all pretend it was never announced .... until Bram tells us otherwise
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tabi13:
My problem is...

... that this rom has been a lot of promised not delivered. I mean 30 megs free space after soft reset, running stable at 280mhz plus etc. We finally get a release date and somehow that very day his Touch dies completely by a ROM flash. Has anyone heard of that? I mean surely the ROM must have been quite complete for it to be released that day.

1. He promises to use his brothers Touch to soon release the ROM but we never hear about that.

2. One gentleman even offers his Touch on loan for cooking but thats turned down.

3. Then the donation starts. Someone offers a Touch for the so far collected sum of 70 Euros and thats turned down.

4. After more donations come in, we are told that he wants enough money for a Touch Enhanced now.

5. After that we are told that money takes time to transfer.

6. After the few days that were bought with that excuse end, there is the thing of not being able to complete the deal he had in mind.

7. A lot more deals are offered and at that time his daughter is born. Surely he knew what his wifes due date was and should either not have been taking donations or informed everyone donating that the rom can take so long so people could make an informed choice. Note also that the donate button is STILL there!

So the way I see it, it seems like only 1 of two possible scenarios

1. That the promises made with this rom can not be delivered on and he is just making excuses now.

2. Or he releases whatever he has to shut me (and anyone else thinking along the same lines) and I would more than gladly apologize.

p.s. I waited a LONG time before writing this because I know that Brams work has been superb and his reputation impecable so far, so I really do urge him to update first post, remove the donate button and admit and apologize if he is not being able to deliver on his promises with this ROM. There is no shame in that...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gvanlee:
Guys, stop crying. Personally, I'm happy using the current version of Surface and will see the new one when it's there. No one told you you had to donate and Bram never said the rom would be here today if you did.

It will be ready when it's ready.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tabi13:
I am not really anxious for the new surface ROM cuz I am using the current one and I am quite happy with it. 6.1 really does not attract me that much. I am just saying that I am not sure any new Surface rom, atleast with all that was promised is coming at all... Which is fine if Bram just admits it cuz I atleast HAD a lot of respect for him with or without Surface 2.0
[Touch GSM ROM Development] HKD_RJ:
You´re absolutely right ! Close these thread and forget about Surface 2, 99% of the posts in these thread have no useful information about "Elf Upgrading" ! When and if Bram release a new ROM he could open a new thread.

H.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
I got almost an anwser for every thing you pointed out but i will take the time to do it i think this one is the most important one.

Bram's is a fresch daddy his daughter was born just a week ago, do you know what time it consumes if you girlfriend and daughter are still in the hospital. I think he runs overwith emotions and things to do .. Be the happiest man in the world, but at the same time worries about the 2 important girls in his world. Arange the familie and friend to visit her. Arange everything form register his daughter to the life insurance . besides that his work. in holland you only get one week off from your work. etc etc etc

I think that this thread should be closed in order to give Bram some rest. Let him be a daddy for a while. I'm confinced and i think that Noonski is at my side for this that Bram will deliver a verry good rom but please guys let him rest for now.

C'mon give him a break

Greetz
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Trekvogel:
I agree the whole situation is a bit strange. Then again, Bram has proved he can cook good roms. Maybe he can give us an update regarding rom and Touch buying.

Seeing that not even €200,- was donated it is a bit hard to believe that this is some kind of scam. Why would someone go through that much trouble for that kind of money?

Maybe the thread shouldn't be closed but would it be good that people didn't post useless messages with the same content every damn day. When someone has something usefull to say, it could still be said that way.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nik_for_you:
Hey man Bram, Hearltly congrats on your daughter's birth..

And people stop crying for ROM as his family is more important then any ROM.

one more thing i am planning to try old surface rom for change.. ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tabi13:
Again I am sorry if my post came out wrong. Lets make a few things clear

1. I dont want the new ROM. I am very happy with Surface 1.31 which is the best Rom I hae ever tried and I will probably stick to it even when/if 2.0 comes out.

2. I know (quite well what kinda responsibility being a father is, I am not saying that the ROM should be delivered immediately.

3. I dont think its a scam for money because Bram has release EXCELLENT work previously for nothing which people including me would GLADLY pay upto 20 Euros for

All I am saying is that the donators should have been kept in loop and first page updated to remove donate button when there was enough money for a Touch Original for which the donations started.

I just hold the opinion that Bram could not deliver on the promises he made with this ROM and hence the web of excuses+circumstances. I am just saying there is no shame in releasing unfinished work to shut up skeptics or say "hey, I tried, I couldnt do it"

And yeah I do agree that this thread should be closed...

In the end I would like to say that I wish Bram and his family the best of health and life. I dont have a personal problem with anyone, just dont like how the whole thing has been handled/played out...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Guys i removed the link for the dutch version because of a bad rom.

The problems with the hardware buttons are under investigation.

Sorry for al you guys for releasing with such a huge bug!!

Gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Yep, tried justa bout everything :confused:

Strange......!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] whistler-nl:
No problem at all Bram, i think the people who flash their phone all know there allways is a chance the rom has a flaw or two.

I have fixed the weather plugin myself but i cant fix the hardware keys... not that smart yet lol.

I dont have problems with BS neither by the way.

Keep up the good work!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] NamelessOne:
from time to time the phone prompts that it is low in memory eventhough i only have sms opened.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
Michael, if you read the first post carefully (which you always should, as most important info is to be found in there...)you will see at the download section that other languages are discontinued
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
Noticed the same...used internet explorer - which I know is a huge memory drain - and got the same message. When looking into the memory I could see I had 41Mb Storage and 18 MB Program which is more then enough. Seems the message is displayed in error (but closing the app, so very annoying)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anheuer:
Hey bram..

Two questions about this ROM version..

With the last ROM you made (which i run now) there is a memory problem.

if i look up some sms messages, play some music, watch some pictures and some mails..

it takes up memory..

(nothing strange about this)

but even when i close allll apps.. it does not get me back up to +-27

i sometimes only have 7 left.

then a reboot is the only sollution.

nooksie sayd its a known problem, but with your rom it is somehow a bit of a bigger problem then normal.

Is this more or less solved/better in this version?

and the second question....

Will there be a newer version coming out soon?

Thnx an advanced
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Strange: I don't have the memory problem... I have to admit though that I always end IE and the Multimedia Album (both are heavy on memory). But I always get memory back after ending them.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
To Anheuer:

Originally Posted by Noonski:

Standard Problem.

Changing GlyphCache to 4MB will make it be more stable to start with.

Changing System Cache to 1MB

Changing Systemfilter Cache to 1MB

How

System Filter Cache

HKLM\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\Rep lStoreCacheSize = 1024 (DWORD decimal)

File System Cache

HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize = 1024 (DWORD decimal)

Glyph Cache

HKLM\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\limit = 4096 (DWORD decimal)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anheuer:
i already did that, and it helped a bit..

but did not solve it..

i still have memory not returning after closing apps.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
Did you try Oxios already?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anheuer:
What is Oxios ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Hibernate. Such a feature is also available via Quickmenu...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
Oxios Hibernate attempts to release as much memory as possible without damaging the internal state of the Windows Mobile device (Pocket PC or Smartphone).

Oxios CloseApps closes down other applications by sending "Close" messages

http://www.oxios.com/
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anheuer:
Ok.. i will try that..

still, its strange that i have this issue..

did not have it with the original ROM or all other ROMs i tryd that Bram made..

wanne try a newer version.. but not if there will be an even newer one coming out pretty soon..

Let me know..

I will let you know if oxios worked
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dimushor:
what about my problem?

ROM version: Touch.Surface 1.31b...

ROM date: 09/30/07

Radio version: 03.07.90

Protocol version: 4.1.13.51
[Touch GSM ROM Development] terra65:
My battery is draining fast as well, more then I was used to with other PDA's. But not as bad as yours seems to drain; do you have GPRS and/or Wifi and/or bluetooth swiched off entirely before you go to sleep? All 3 of them having a huge impact on ur battery-life. I do also suspect the BS app to take more then wanted
[Touch GSM ROM Development] orouborus:
hey nora!

if i do this, would there be any significant change in freed memory? is this advisable? because if i do want to reclaim some lost memory, i just use hibernate via quickmenu. but i do wish to try this out to.. i just need your output on it.

cheers!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anheuer:
I tryd the Hirbinate...

it cleared up to about 19..

so i am still missing about 8..

but its better then nothing..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
I also have 18 mb, with these running:

- outlook

- activesync (connected with exchange)

- contacts

- calendar

- file explorer

Closing these (except activesync) gives 20 mb free.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
Tab, nicely said, i also didn't want to flame you. i'm also not here to pick a fight. But i think some people needs some patience. and with some i didn't point at you there are a lot of people who i think don't understand where a free forum drives on.

Greetz,
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
My previous point is that by opening up for donations, the forum (and ROM for that matter) don't feel 'free' anymore. Sure, I understand you can't compare 'donating' with 'buying' but some people may find that by donating, they deserve more information. (Like mentioned in previous posts).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Guys, let's make things clear here:

1. i love my doughter and my girlfriend, they're still in the hospital so i'm running around the clock to setlle things here, i'm at the hospital now sitting next to my girlfriend who's asleep now. This is the only spare time i've got at the moment.

2. I love xda-developers, making and serving roms is just a hobby i don't want to make any profit of it. The money that you guys donated is in good hands on a savings account(so i'll get more money fron the interest).

When my doughter and girlfriend are better i'll make time to buy a new touch and go on with cooking.

3. Please do not whine like if you bought a licence or so on this rom when donating, it is a free of choice thingy. The money is in good hands and when i hgave spare time i'll get me a new phone.

4. I'll change the startpost and title so no confusion is made.

gr. bram

thnx all the guys for their support!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Hope all goes well with your girls!!

Personally, I'd remove the donate-link, but that's just my $0,02 ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Done

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
I can see one scenario for you...

flash back your original ROM and get all your future updates from www.htc.com .
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gsidhom:
No Rush!!!

gr.bram,

take all the time you need,

Your Little girl is the most important thing in your life now,

there are lot of ROMs out there for those who can't sense the responsibility and wait...

God Bless your whole new life, Stick to him & He shall take care of the 3 of you...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Garetht:
Congrats

Hey Bram,

Congratualtions on the birth of your baby girl :):):)

Hey, don't listen to all the little petty comments, there is no need to explain yourself to anyone on here, you have done an amazing thing, and personally I think that all your time should be with your family right now and not having to answer to little *****es on here about the ROM!! **** EM.

Well done Dad.

As for anyone who wants to take a pop at Bram, why don't you PM me instead and leave the poor guy alone.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] HKD_RJ:
Please, close this thread...really there´s nothing useful here...this discussion is endless and not at all "Elf upgrading" related. Close this thread and give peace to Bram and to us.

H.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Garetht:
Well said

Well said HKD_RJ