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[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmband64:
Has anyone else noticed that there are now two new additional version numbers posted for B360 on L04 and L14? Not sure what's different but the version numbers appear to be later.

I was not able to successfully update to them though from the current B360 build.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
It seems like the only way you could manage to see nothing is if some of the following are true:

I don't know much else ... -- It'll work eventually. It took me what seemed a long time the first time I went though this.

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If you look at version number, then all the "new" ones today look "older" than that first one we downloaded. i.e. The one we downloaded for L04 and l14's are still the two at the top of the list if sorted by version. I did hear today that one release is deemed to be "-FULL" and the other "-OTA". I have no idea what that means, but so it goes.

Might be able to find out over in the beta forum here.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kaikunxp:
Google Safetynet

Can anyone else confirm that b360 breaks Google Safetynet? Once I Updated to b360 from b320 android pay stopped working and it fails a safetynet check. I rolled back to b162, checks are passed, used charles to go b162-->b360 and it fails again. Rolled back to b162 and went b162 --> b320 and safetynet checks still pass.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Yeah, I noticed that as well. I don't use anything like Google Pay but I finally got around to trying it and it failed to recognize the phone as "safe". I'll try to report it over on hi-club, but if you can report it anyplace better (that has actual bug trackers and/or honor devs) that would be good.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
I'll report it

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#72309 is the one I installed it's the newest I see listed
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmband64:
Yeah what's weird about FRD-L14 is that the older builds have a newer version number. I wonder if that means these are later builds even though the dates are a few days older?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] trainpunk:
It worked xD you are a wizard
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Thanks, I'm downloading the files

But correct me if I'm wrong [MENTION=2895182]clsA[/MENTION]

The first file you shared is the L04C567B360 right?

And the other is the _hw_usa.zip and should be flashed after flashing the first and rebooting into system again using dialer code as well all from internal storage?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
I was told you can put update.app extracted from the update.zip + the entire update_data_full_hw_usa.zip untouched into the ext_sd/dload

and use the *#*#2846579#*#* dialer code and it will flash both at one time.

I did not test it but it makes sense if the Update.app has a built in check for the update_data_full_hw_usa.zip like it should.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Which method did you use offline 2 files withe dialer code or Charles proxy

And are you an official beta tester?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
If your on B162 now I recommend using the Charles method

if your on B320 or B324 do the 2 zips method I just mentioned in the other post
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Even if I'm not an official beta tester?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Yes the charles proxy works B162 --> B360 without being a tester
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Thanks a lot
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
let me know how it went and which method you used
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MT2-User:
I saw [MENTION=2895182]clsA[/MENTION] has already answered your question.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
Is there a non-rooted method for updating from B317 to B360 without rollback?

I want to update my wife's phone. I updated my phone yesterday, via the two UPDATE.APP with key strokes method from B320 to B360 without a glitch. That was great!

UPDATED;. I located the region patch for B317 to B320, and loaded it to the ext SD card in the dload folder. Used the dialer code and now on B320. Ready to update to B360 using dialer. :)

B317 to B360 for FRD-L04 unrooted without rollback.

Download the region patch to get from B317 to B320 by installing using the dload/dialer method, and then download the two files in #731 and dload/dialer all the way to B360.

User dialer method see #608
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
[MENTION=2658922]hachamacha[/MENTION]

I did a last try on the 4th laptop, and eventually everything worked flawlessly. Now I'm on l09C432B320. Thank you for your help! :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Saythis:
Went from B162 to B360 successfully :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I did the same. Congrats!

So there's a bunch of people saying that updating via an OTA caused their bootloaders to be relocked over in this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/how-to/nougat-beta-upadte-locked-unlocked-t3533581

Never heard of this before and I didn't experience it yesterday when I updated to 360 (or was it two days back)?

Thanks.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
The bootloader is locked when you do the rollback
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I know that, firsthand, but it's not locked when you roll forwards via an OTA.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
I wouldn't know as I don't unlock it again after the rollback
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yalokiy:
Perhaps it depends from OTA? Maybe from 162 to 360 it will lock, but from 320 to 360 it wouldn't..
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
But what I'm saying is that I did unlock it at one point, and did a Charles update to b360 without anything becoming mysteriously locked. Since then I've done another rollback and at this moment I'm locked because of that, but I'll unlock it again and roll forward via the dialer method to test.

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I did the 162 to 360 (Charles) while unlocked (one time) and I lost nothing (no data, unlocked state didn't change). I guess I'm not sure why a "roll forward" would ever lock anything although I don't do the "dialer" method.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
doing a normal OTA update would not lock or relock I agree

only the rollback to MM locks the device is my experience
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Ok, I downloaded both files and used new method you mentioned (unzipped update.app + untoched x_x_hw_usa.zip) it successfuly flashed, Google keyboard is working well but build version is still on B320 though security patch and kernel dates are updated.

Do I have to unzipp x_x_hw_usa.zip file and flash it using dialer code again? View attachment 3994332
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Yeah sorry it didn't work

See my post here -> https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=70436642
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Just curious about the so-called "final nougat release either coming up or already around for some versions":

What would be the reason that those of us on various beta's of nougat can't use Charles to update to it? Is the requirement that you can only update from build 162? Or is the requirement that the target build be a beta or test version that requires authorization so that we use charles to spoof it?

Just giving it a quick thought, it seems as if there is little difference between a "final version" of nougat and a test version aside from the designation "final" or "release". For that matter, I'm also wondering if there's any reason that using the "dialer method" (I know it's a two part operation these days) won't work either to get to final.

I guess if Charles "expires" it's 30 day trial period before the final shows up, you can download Charles 3.x because it's free these days. I haven't tested it , just downloaded it in case.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
When the official update comes you simply rollback to B162 (last official update) and take the real OTA.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Oh, damn

So what if I stick to this mixture version is there any problem?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Not that I know of.. did you flash the full_data.zip
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Just extracted the whole files to dload, I'll give it a shot

But I noticed that apps included there are almost all at the same versions already installed I'm my device already
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Yeah it may be fine.. you really won't know until another update comes and flashes successfully
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Well it was blazing fast, but I guess the update has taken effect since the version showed B360 plus the system font has became darker and larger as the update log mentioned
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
Can someone verify if their wifi tethering is disabled on B360 FRD-L04? I see it in the setting but it's transparent and unresponsive.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
UPDATE:

I confirm that the update has taken effect since I have previously reported a graphical bug in B320 under advanced settings\Accessibility where the floating button overlaps the last line of settings (touch and hold delay) which is now fixed in B360.

Check these out:

View attachment 3994556

B320

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5871419db5bbf/Screenshot_20170107-212256.png?

B360
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] whatlobster:
Hey can you share the files you used to update from B317 to B320?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
I'm with you... rather not have to rollback and just take the final release via dload/dialer. :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
We'll the reality is that Honor's 2 zip system is stupid. You can flash any version of the update_data_full_hw_usa.zip and your phone will show your on that version. Regardless if you flashed the full update.app or not.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
Check here for it. The Region Patch: update_data_full_hw_usa.zip (781 MB) is what I download to ext dload and dialer method.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
You are partially right but just check my updated reply here

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=70443261
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
The current update_data.zip is over 900 mb

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...09/f1/full/hw/usa/update_data_full_hw_usa.zip

The one you posted is v68366 for B320
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] whatlobster:
Yeah for 360. But we're talking about 320 now. After I take it to from 317 to 320 I can use the new files for 360, no?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
you can skip B320 completely

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That would have happened with the first full update.app that you flashed

has nothing to do with the update_data_full_hw_usa.zip flash
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] whatlobster:
Yeah if I did the rollback method which I don't feel like doing. Honestly just looking for ways to update from 317 without rolling back.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Anyways, we'll see if overnight battery consumption has improved

That will be the main concern for me at the time being ;)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Do you have TWRP Flash the 2 zips ? If not extract and flash the 2 zips with the dload method and your done

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1278/g104/v72309/f1/full/update.zip

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...09/f1/full/hw/usa/update_data_full_hw_usa.zip

But if you want to do it correctly use the rollback + B162 + Charles proxy to B360
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] whatlobster:
Ok cool I just wanted the files to take me from 317 to 320 (or 360) using dload, so thanks for those. I'll give it a go when I get home.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
Did you see my response #724?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Yeah you can always do the rollback method later if you think something is wrong.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] whatlobster:
I did, thanks a bunch!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
Let's hope not, thanks anyway ;)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
This Patch took me from B317 to B320.. download to dload and then use dialer method. Once it updated me to B320 then it updated with the two zip flies to B360. using FRD-L04 US.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Again the update_data_full_hw_usa.zip is released for each update .. it's not a real patch as you call it

it just changes the /cust directory on the phone to say your on that version .. it's a build.prop update is all

flashing just the update_data_full_hw_usa.zip and not the Full Update.app is not really updating

you have to flash both.

and their is no reason for him to go to B320 now he would still be skipping B324

so just go B317 >> B360 and be done

I also don't understand the big deal about doing the rollback / Huawei Backup works just fine if you do it first you loose nothing
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
I'm not calling it patch.. the website called it patch. It worked for me. I didn't have to rollback. If you like rolling back.. good for you. I don't... thanks. :) I agree with you in regards to going from B317 to B360. I didn't know how to go directly there from B317. Maybe you can help in that respect but if it means rolling back then mine is just another option.

Download the region patch to get from B317 to B320 by installing using the dload/dialer method, and then download the two files in #731 and dload/dialer all the way to B360
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Post #731 at the top of this page
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix003:
Sounds good... a few days ago when I wanted to go from B317 to B320 all I got was a link to another tread on how to rollback which by the way did not have very clear instructions. I guess the problem with this tread is on the first two pages it shows how to use Charles method for two different models of Honor L09 and L04 with the JSON for updating the L04 to B317. A few pages later it goes on to mentioning B320 and if you are on B317 you have to rollback. I know how to know rollback but maybe if the first two pages of this tread was update so that when new folks stumbling in don't get wrapped up in the old updates and just go directly to B360? Be nice to include clear rollback instructions in the first two pages as well with all the dialer method. Not sure who is the moderator for this tread.. but it sure save folks some headaches.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Yeah welcome to XDA this is the normal progression around here. Luckily you can search and get most of the info you need. It's rare that the original posts get updated with the newer info as it develops.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grannyrogers:
I second what you said. I had to read several pages to catch up.

I am on B360, and am loving it
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
I've only got a single question about this thread: What the heck is "Sympathic"? (in the title). The rest of the thread is fine for me, especially posts 1 & 11.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] linkazoid:
Why is there not a B360 for L09? Currently on B316 but can't see the point of updating to B320 if B360 is available for L04.

Can L04 roms be used to update L09?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hachamacha:
Probably can't be used to do a viable update, since the regions/radios , at the least, are different. If somehow you had radio compatibility between regions (you could check that via many sites), then language could be switched.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] skeeterfood:
If someone reading this is in the actual beta program, please report that the 2017.01.03 FRD-L04C567B360 (v72309) update has broken support for the Polar H6 Bluetooth Low Energy Heart-rate strap. It worked fine when my phone was on B162 and it still works with my Nexus 5. It hasn't broken overall Bluetooth support though, since my other Bluetooth devices: headphones, Ford Sync, Kinivo BTC450, Pebble 2 SE, Braven XXL, and SHFT (http://shft.run/) all still work.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] linkazoid:
Thanks, what about other F09 variants? Is the C432 interchangeable?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
Since I updated to b320 I've lost the option to mute on lockscreen by holding down the power button. Now only 2 options are to power off and to restart the phone. Any way to get back this? I don't want to unlock my phone whenever I want to mite it.

Edit: also lost the stock alarm ringtone
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grannyrogers:
From the lock screen, pull down the notification tray and change the sound profile
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
Wow thanks ^^

Any way to recover the old stock alarm ringtone?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bigwill63:
This works for L14, 162 to 360 via Charles app. Just remove the date and description lines for the response. Just as easy as 320 was (I rolled back to 162, to properly install 360)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitrowarez:
That's something that Huawei chosen to do, anyway it's still a beta

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If you have it's name then you can google it or try finding it on Zedge app from playstore or anyone who's still on EMUI 4 can share it with you, start a post on themes section asking for it
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
What is the latest beta version for the L09C432?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
Thanks. Is it recommended to do a factory reset after upgrading?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
What about the next updates? Will it come via ota or i should use the same method every time for upgrade?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranismo:
once installed, what about when official Nougat be released ¿? We will able to install it or it will be necessary to wipe data?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] choumss:
it seems a new L09 beta is coming...

(according to the last post from moderator LCJMLJ 49, https://community.hihonor.com/thread/1562?messageTarget=all&start=475&mode=comments)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranismo:
yesterday finally i was able to do the procedure but something was wrong.

I did the steps correctly and I get the update xxx316 Nougat.

once downloaded it restarted itself and something was updating.

then, PIN number and everything is the same, there is no update.

As you can see on my pics update is present but If I pulse on it there is no opcion to install , so update now is corrupted, any idea?

I followed post#11 , im on #131version.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] chongns:
I think u have wrong URL, maybe u can post your response here for member to check it
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranismo:
You mean the response from charles?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] oholli83:
I am on the latest Beta B360 on L04..if I want to go back to B162 until the official OTA rolls out, can I just put the full data hw Update.app file into the dload folder and do the 3-finger update?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
No ...you flash the rollback and the Full B162

your device will be locked and wiped
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] oholli83:
Ok, cool. I have the Full B162 downloaded, and I think I have the rollback downloaded. What is the best way to flash the rollback, and then the Full B162 after?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
2 flash from dload with the 3 finger boot or the dialer code
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] chongns:
How do I do the 3 fingers boot? ? I only known 3 buttons boot.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
You can try it with 2 fingers but I find it easier with 3
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] oholli83:
Thank you!

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This is the name of the "rollback" file that I have downloaded: Honor 8_FRD-L04_Rollback_Package_from_Android7.0 to Android 6.0_C900B300.rar

Do I/Can I just put that .rar file in the dload folder and do the 3-BUTTON boot or dialer code? Or, do I need to open/extract that .rar file and put something out if it into the dload folder?

Sorry, for all the noob-like questions..I'm not a noob, I just don't want to do it more than once..or screw anything up lol. TIA
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
You unrar it and copy update.app to the dload folder
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] macbuggo:
this is going to be an oddball question...

can I use the dialer flash method to go back to 320 from 360?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
Why would you want to do that ?

I'm guessing it will fail but you can try

using this Charles Method you can go from B162 to B317 or B320 or B360 your choice

But I think you have to always start at B162
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] chongns:
If you willing try it, please let us know the result.

those probably the same thing, just one is using 3 finger, the other used 1 finger. :p
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] macbuggo:
I'm trying to figure out how the update authentication works... I got to the point where I can't be sure whether I'm having problems because I kept forcing it to try and update to the same version.

If I didn't have authenticators active I would've just reset back to 6.0. Not sure if I trust huawei backup :p
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] linkazoid:
Has anyone on the official beta received anything in the last couple of days? A post a few back had a French Honor forum that said a new build was rolling out for L09
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] clsA:
B320 is still the last file for the L09 on the servers
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes it's a bummer that's why I installed 360 from l04 ?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] linkazoid:
How? Any difference that you've noticed?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] macbuggo:
Well, flashing back to 320 from 360 from the dialer worked. Based on past experience where we were able to flash the first large update and then do a 2nd flash for the usa version file (when doing upgrades), I did it in reverse where I flashed 320's usa update.app, and then flashed the 320 full update.app

Also I'm only doing this for science
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grannyrogers:
Isn't 360 better than 320? Why would want to go back? Battery life on 360 is much, much better, isn't it?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] macbuggo:
Sorry I need to put in better context on my posts. 360 is indeed better, I'm just doing it for science...

I am trying to figure out the beta authentication after you download updates. I thought I had it all figured out but I still couldn't trick the updater to work properly. The concern with just dialer flashing to 360 is that there are some apps that aren't updated.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grannyrogers:
Got you:good:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
I have some questions about the lock screen. First, is there any way to see forecast on the lock screen? And one more thing, on emui 4 I had the option to see the sender but not the message for example fb messenger notifications. Now, either I see the sender and the message, or only a notification from messenger but the sender is not visible. Is there any way to make it works like before? So I would like to see only the sender but not the message. Thank you :)