yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
That's strange I've never had that issue with TN I've bought 10 Moto E 2015 and I'm now on my seventh Moto G they were having this crazy 4th of July sale ..The phone was a buck..So I bought six ..I got the lowest plan they offered which is 14 bucks ...So I quickly made six new Google emails ...And used them to buy the phones ..Never any questions and when I was done bricking them I bought four more ( I got them solely to see just how much I could dissect,unlock and or change ) then the Moto g3 came along and I did the same as before tho I actually took a liking to the moto g so using one as my daily phone(tho I did just semi brick it last night ..Killed the sim ..Lost my imei and ESN..So my new one should be here Monday lol) but in every case they passed up my msl/SPC code without question even after telling them excatly what I was doing to my phone ...Even provided me with my entire data profile and whatnot Incase of brick via CDMA workshop/radiocomm/dfs etc ..And if I f'ed up a little to much they were more than happy to help if after days of searching the interwebs and XDA couldn't help me ...So on that note alone I think there a pretty stand up company and I recommend everyone to them not to mention the low price of the phones u pay the for the phone and the first month then as soon as u get the phone cancel ..Win win
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
They implemented that fraud thing recently. It really sucks. Lucky you then!
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
You can't cancel the 2 month. Sorry to say but you made a stupid choice. DON'T USE GIFT CARDS ON TEXTNOW. Found out that if you order in the morning, textnow won't have fraud thing. Not worth returning and getting a refund cause you have to return the phone in "NEW" condition and then after 30 days they will refund you. Stupid right? Also I'd trust google on the SD Card thing. I personally have a Sandisk Ultra 32GB in my moto g3.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
"RED line of texts like "AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Secure)"

[IMG="Bootloader RED Texts"]http://i63.tinypic.com/2wgrs5z.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks @ hammersmashface and @ MotoJunkie01

got an ideal what this means and just whats being secured

"RED line of texts like "AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Secure)"

I had thought I was in with Tello as using my ESN and ordering a SIM only to find out that TN has to release it first and Tello agent said a TN number port over to them would be simplest for getting this done - So request my MSL and ask for my # TN to port out I guess now.

Thanks for you answers :good:
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
cool
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
So it is and then with something like ADB and Fastboot on Windows, only allows the PC to work with it then (phones bootloader/fastboot) through the Windows CMD Console? Would TWRP be in a separate partition then outside of the Moto G3 bootloader area?

Taking that same thought then is it possible to work with TWRP through the Windows Command Console - or not cause it's outside of the Moto G3 Bootloader in it's own separate partition?

Thus in making it's own TWRP Recovery Partition... But where it located?

Safestrap Recovery was to a Samsung phone what TWRP (and other installed recoveries) does the same for Motorola phones. Correct?

What's the best phone side (flashed) recovery to use on a Moto G3...

Then could anyone answer this-

Instead of installing the Android SDK - I went with Minimal ADB and Fastboot Tools on PC.

Could anyone tell me why I get the error or an alike error when I put the " $ " at the beginning of the command string.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>$ fastboot oem get_unlock_data

'$' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
[MENTION=7383447]MotoJunkie01[/MENTION] the Partition Backup & Restore you mentioned is by who?

Looking on G store I see many but not in see these capabilities mentioned by you.

If I knew who it's by I could narrow it down as many have the same titles to them of partition backup & restore.

Thanks
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
For the Tech Savvy here you may be interested in the TextNow Engineering Blog

https://engineering.textnow.com/

There's an article Dissecting the Android OTA Update System.

Alex Roman, as the Lead Firmware Developer at TextNow, one of my responsibilities involves developing and maintaining the custom system software that gets flashed onto the phones we sell. Part of that software involves the Over the Air (OTA) updates system. In order to deliver updates to our customers more effectively, I’ve built a custom system application and back-end server that work together with the Android APIs and Recovery. Together, these components make OTA updates a reality for TextNow phones.

OTA updates involve downloading one or more files that contain the updates to be installed. Usually, they are accompanied by a script that tells the update system how the updates are to be installed.

The installation script is executed by the recovery image — essentially a slimmed down Linux system — which takes very little room in the phone’s memory, and also shows the user a simple menu to perform basic system recovery functions such as wiping the phone, or the cache partition. In this case, the recovery image will be performing the installation of the OTA update.

https://engineering.textnow.com/dissecting-the-android-ota-update-system-a60dc7bf2ad5#.8nj3qgghn

Might be something to consider in the thinking behind TextNow - in their prior messing with these phones :cool:
[Moto G 2015 General] MotoJunkie01:
Its made by Wanam
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
You don't need $ at all...Just fastboot reboot or fastboot OEM config fsg-id sprint for example
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
It was instruction of Motorola in the unlock bootloader page there also -

some have quote it in guides instructing to use $ before input / I was just wondering if I was missing something of my install going with the Minimal ADB and Fastboot and not with the full Android SDK Tool or bad Android USB drivers.

Just fishing to understand this and reasoning why.

[IMG="Bootloader RED Texts"]http://i63.tinypic.com/2wgrs5z.jpg[/IMG]

"RED line of texts like "AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Secure)"

Also fishing to see if all these were tied together in someway.

:good: thank you :)
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Just a follow up from my post #101 here

Guess what Ivan just called me again now - said he's been talking to his manager since we last spoke and has been authorized to do an over the phone purchase with me, that as my card was still on file and there was no need to any fraud verification.

So number two is on it's way.

I did suggest that as another method to fraud protect a purchase would be to put something the ordering string (as a pin code), then a true card holder and owner could go online to there account and copy that information noted of the purchase and email that back to TextNow. Only a card owner would have access to that information anyways.
[Moto G 2015 General] akula1488:
hi, I have the same model from TextNow; I have successfully flashed stock Android 6.0.1 and rooted the phone. And I can see /persist/prop/ro_cust.prop from the adb shell as root. But how do I open the file and edit it? I am a total newbie; this is the first time I installed adb, TWRP recovery, ROM flash, using SuperSU to root...etc
[Moto G 2015 General] akula1488:
update - I opened the file and I do not see to.tether.denied at all
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Download esfile explorer in the play store and allow root access. Then open the file and edit from there
[Moto G 2015 General] akula1488:
Thank you but I cannot find /persist/prop folder using esfile explorer.
[Moto G 2015 General] Gravemind2015:
[MENTION=5781153]ResistanceIsFutile[/MENTION] : The $ signifies the type of user under which the command is to be executed. When you open a Linux (or Android) Terminal, you'll be greeted with your username followed by $. When you are root, the symbol changes into a #. It is not a part of a command, just a reference.

Broadcasted from Zeta Reticuli
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Thank you for your answers - would you know the meaning of the red text I see in fastboot there, mostly of the secure meaning and what is secured then to a logical understanding (post #118 image), what's affected by something secured and noted of the fastboot/bootloader area - if bootloader is unlocked should there be something in red then, or maybe I'm looking at it wrong and it's a warning to the good benefit in unlocked state using it and to watch out cause bootloader is unlocked - if red texts and unlocked bootloader are in fact related.

I'm just wondering if the Textnow people did this or if the fastboot/bootloader is NOT something they would be able to effect in any case?

So it's being on Lenovo/Motorola end then, just being in red - means a warning is given and why I question.

Your prior answer seems to be if I was on either stated platforms but coming through

ADB and Fastboot on Windows isn't it null to see a username (as I don't), but I am rooted so would # be used anyway for the fastboot commands? I don't know much if any - though I'm willing to read up if you could point me of such knowledge.

Links are fine with me instead of my missing or my not understanding in further Linux concepts through a Windows Command line interface. I'm not asking for a total knowledge but basics to understand.

So far I'm understanding from ADB and Fastboot on Windows, I have two types (ADB and Fastboot) commands I can use.

I.E. - The Android Debug Bridge (ADB) is a toolkit included in the Android SDK package. It consists of both client and server-side programs that communicate with one another. The ADB is typically accessed through the command-line interface.

adb <command>

Fastboot is a diagnostic protocol included with the SDK package used primarily to modify the flash filesystem via a USB connection from host computer. It requires that the device be started in a boot loader or Secondary Program Loader mode, in which only the most basic hardware initialization is performed. After enabling the protocol on the device itself, it will accept a specific set of commands sent to it via USB using a command line.

fastboot <command>

Please I'm not trying to know more than stated (basic) I do read a lot but the sponge in my head can only hold so much, and then without any practical experience I would have of usage now benefit myself to a full understanding to it anyways.

Baby steps till my balance achieved...

Thank you for anything offered. :good:
[Moto G 2015 General] Gravemind2015:
Pretty sure it's not related to TextNow. My XT1550 also shows this.

Dunno what 'secure' means though :D

About difference between Windows and Linux command line interface, one thing I have noticed, is that usually the first term is an executable file whereas in linux the first term written is a program (difference being we don't have to provide path)

For example,

I. Windows -

C:\Program Files\Minimal ADB and Fastboot> adb devices

Here adb is actually adb.exe located in that folder.

II. Linux -

gravemind@ubuntu :$ sudo adb devices

(As I remember it)

Here, gravemind is my user account and ubuntu is the computer's name. The $ shows that it's not a root shell (it'll change to a # as we have requested login into root user by sudo)

adb here is the software package. You can launch firefox in linux by

gravemind@ubuntu:$ firefox

Whereas in Windows, you'll have provide the full path-

C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe

Hope that clears up a bit, I am not an expert too.[emoji14]

Broadcasted from Zeta Reticuli
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
[MENTION=7112679]Gravemind2015[/MENTION] thanks a bunch :good:

I see now the reasons as to $ or # being mentioned by some and then not working in my case trying to use in command with Windows Command line interface as apposed to the Linux Command line interface / an image says much :)

I guess I should really get more involved with Ubuntu/Linux especially with Windows being so mistrusted and scorecard to being less of a true desktop experience, if it continues the only windows I'll have are for light and fresh air.

Till someone confirms otherwise I'm going with it's of Lenovo/Motorola end to android with these devices. Though a RED Secure means a warning and locked to me. Also since no one else has brought it up, it must not interfere with our purposes in going there.

I'm thankful of your answers as I was able to grasp them...
[Moto G 2015 General] akula1488:
never mind. I flashed CM13 and after APN update everything is fine, voice, 3G and LTE data, and also WiFi tethering. thanks guys.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
TextNow xt1548 MSL Code

I to did a Chat with them and got my MSL Code, tried in my account there, but they directed me to TextNow community support pages, said I could open a Chat session there. at bottom right corner of page.

It might be helpful to NOTE: all I seen was the powered by Zendesk box there!

Only after exiting out of my Adblocker (Adguard) and refreshing the page was the Blue Box shown to start a Chat. :)

If anyone would like to know-

1. Download and launch ES File Explorer.

2. Tap on the Menu key > Settings > Display settings.

3. Scroll down and check “Show hidden files”. And then,

check if you can see all the hidden folders and files on Android. :good:
[Moto G 2015 General] monogwai:
Google voice can't reach my sprint radio number... What to do?
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Make sure it's the right number. It should work. Google voice integration for sprint doesn't work but that's not really necessary.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Legal / Regulatory & Consumer Resources - Unlocking your Sprint device

Unlocking for Domestic Usage

https://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock

If OP wants to add this to the opening as a titled link, it's good to know info. - possibly.

As Sprint is the source which all the (streams and tributary's) feed off as an MVNO associated with use as it's as the Sprint network source.

Just an FYI
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
I won't have hope in sprint as they will prob tell you "sorry it's not supported". I have my hopes in TextNow as when I got my moto g #2 this week, they said that they're working on unlocking the phone and check back within 1-3 months.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Hi purplefruity

Sure by then they will have made a profit off of the phone and you.

No what I meant is in general information to everyone who wouldn't know about the policy Sprint has for DSU.

Which as I would see it - it's MVNO's would have similar policies as well to the Federal mandate by FCC.

Now with TextNow policy I'm sure they already have one as any MVNO do - that you buy a Sprint enabled phone from. Wouldn't you think so - then to of the FACT they discourage it because they use their own custom ROM.

They state some in their community about the custom ROM and see the quotes I pulled from there

So some techy people may get this done by assuring TextNow they can handle the required task but I don't see it for everyone who would want to just unlock it by asking them too. Wouldn't you agree by the TextNow communities answers found within the pages there :)

That it's harder for some to achieve this and not being done by everyone as simple as it is in asking for your MSL code...

I see it being done for savvy xda's or developers of some capacity to talk them in to it - still a class action suit because of federal mandates might put them out of business or cause them to forfeit using their staple of their custom ROM...
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Hands on US Cellular now

What's the particular dumps needed to get off this dude, I'm hands on one fresh out of the box unit...

Might not stay that way for long - so answer soon.
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Dude you got a USC? Just do a backup of all partitions. Never know when it comes in handy!
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
yes - read that TWRP only backs like 6-8 of the 20+ partitions - reading up how to catch them all - but with TWRP I can boot it / not flash, then seems like others backups can be made from pc side in terminal adb shell to get dumps but sounds like it not structured but kinda jumbo fk mess. really trying to comprehend best easy way even lookin 4 guide. ;)

MJ01 mentioned that wanam app I it installed on TN phone and never used it as I send it back and cleaned it up first. it looked to do more than twrp does but also seemed that I read its best do each partition one at a time. decidsions decidsions

any help out there?

note: i'm working with sim out of ph and without setting up the new phones stuff.

trying to keep as much like it just came from opening the box... I can do wifi to get that wanam or side load if I still have on pc.
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Download the wanam app and select EVERY SINGLE Partition, NONE LEFT OUT. Then Pm it to me and I'll see what I can do.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
I don't care to turn over everything as I want to learn and then isn't one partition at a time better then all at once?
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Doesn't matter as it's the same thing. All at once saves the partitions separately so don't worry it's saving you an extra step. After it's done, just pm me the folder of the partitions.
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Did it finish yet?
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
I'm still reading to finding "KNOWLEDGE".
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
Via social engineering I have been able to have this device unlocked by bringing it to a Sprint store (lol)

Sprint has also kindly removed the block on the native SMS for me too; so now I don't need to deal with using Hangouts~

I've always found it easier to hack people than raw devices; as there is no security patch for stupidity.

That being said I have a second totally stock device and will begin dumping everything; I will update OP to reflect these changes soon.

I've also figured out how to screw this company in regards to their data throttling too for unlimited 4G, this is actually a software-side thing and not a social-engineering thing.

I believe the person selling the famed "Magic Box" that some folks may have heard of is also doing the exact same thing I am; I think it's too controversial to explain exactly how this is done to be totally frank.
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
But I plan to keep TextNow for a while; TextNow requires very specific conditions to track data usage, etc......

I know more about TNs history after having done some sleuthing too; it is more or less just a bunch of people who have a connect to destroyed devices; they are refurbishing them with parts made from China.

This is why they can be in perma-sale status without a problem; they aren't paying a whole lot for broken devices that just require screen replacements ONLY.

Take your finger and apply hard pressure to the screen of the device; but not hard enough to break it and you will see that it is an aftermarket part.
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
I called them in total rage about it and they wanted me to call my CC company while they were on the phone.

As a lawyer I can tell you directly that this is illegal; if they ask to do that you can respond that you may take legal action, order again and you will not experience future problems AS LONG AS YOU USE THE SAME CARD THAT YOU GOT RESULTS WITH BEFORE.

They are low-level scammers in some ways; but they're not going to risk being taken to court LOL

Nothing about this is so automated; they personally vet every single order so they know who they can and cannot mess around with

Also a note: You CANNOT remove your credit-card once entering it into their site; there is no option whatsoever to remove payment information only to change it.

I'm looking into taking legal action against them in this regard or at least using it for leverage as it requires you to use a "dead card" to change this information.

If you decide to use a "dead card" my suggestion is to go w/ MasterCard as they do not have the APIs to verify MasterCards but CAN verify if your AMEX is "not right"

I mean to be stuck with TextNow as a company is really not great; and if your card has no balance they will continue to spam charges at it hoping on the off-chance that at some point it will have money in it.

Really shady, really unethical business practices
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
So ya got it released or did you get it domestically GSM unlocked. Also about SMS unlocking, the native SMS app is there with a stock rom flash
[Moto G 2015 General] monogwai:
I don't know what you did to achieve that, but I did so entirely by accident (I'll be happy to splain what happened if you like). When I hit the 1.5gb mark, they suspended my sim until I "sent them a screenshot of my apps' data usage". I told them I had factory reset my phone so I no longer had any usage info, and I was turned back on, but at the 2.5g (?) speed. I'm curious to see if that will still work the same when my month re-up's.

PS - love yr statement about hacking stupidity vs. devices. Lolol!

---------- Post added at 02:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 AM ----------

My phone came with native SMS app out of the box, but it never worked, always got some unauthorized error or some such. How do we make it work, OP? I HATE THIS TN APP!
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
Root your phone and download partition backup and restore then u can make a image file of every partition..The program is a life saver