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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
Hey folks, I've gotten many feedbacks and that really help me in getting the rom going. There appears to be more than one cause for the slow boot issue. I will do a little bit more testing based on the suggestions I receive and decide which is the best solution to the slow boot. I will list down the options later.

You can do that in advanced config, or better yet use phm registry to edit the following entries:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Windows Live\HSAppPlugins]
"SearchURL"="http://www.google.com/pda?hl=en&q="

change to:

"SearchURL"="http://mobile.live.com/search/results.aspx?="

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"Search Page"="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%s&btnG=Google+Search"

change to:

"Search Page"="http://mobile.live.com/search/results.aspx?q=%s&d=aloc"

Next release planned changes

***Adding Touch Keyboard***

I have the same copy of the cab, it works great but there is something that bothers me a little bit. When you type in abc mode, aka normal mode, the xt9 button flickers. This will be cooked into the next rom on the expense of 1.5mb :p

***Removing Advanced Config***

I'd decided to remove the advanced config in the next release. I don't really like to idea of it making comm manager buttons disappear. The feature that is most dependent on advanced config in the rom is the Soft-reset shortcut. However, in the next release, I will be using PHM Reset instead. I like this much better as it has smaller footprint, and it instantly reboots the phone without any delay once you clicked on it. I will repack advanced config in a cab which will add a shortcut to the System Tools folder, and Settings tab. However, the soft-reset shortcut will be removed. Whoever wants advanced config in the rom can install it afterwards.

***Darker Start menu and bottom bars***

I forgot to change the basehue to 160 when cooking the rom. It will be fixed in next release. This essentially makes the bars black instead of gray which is how the original Htc_default.tsk skin looks like.

***Fixing slow boot***

Either the tray bar will be re-shown, OR task manager removed + tray bar remain hidden.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] DvTonder:
Thank you for cooking it in, it is one of the first things I install on any new ROM - somehow got used to it and it is difficult to not use any more. Have never noticed the XT9 flicker you mention - will look out for it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
The flicker is only found on the Touch Keyboard. If you use the Keypad, there's no problem with it at all. Also, stock symbol pad will be removed since the touch keyboard has the same thing built into it. I hope the touch keyboard symbol pad is not dependent on the stock symbol pad.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] micwk:
theres a little problem with the dialpad, the call history doesnt work, instead it dials the last called number when u press the call history icon on the dialpad,

other than that ... its a EXCELLENT rom ... thanks K

and for some unknown reason, this morning i cant sync with my pc with WMDC.. will check it out again after work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
Actually I believe the button was modded by schen to dial the last number instead of launching the call history. The reason is because this dialer doesnt have a talk button. To access the call history, click right/up on the dpad. Left/down access voice message iirc. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
It is based on this Rom ;) 1.31 is no doubt slower. There were still some bugs in 1.30b and I really wanted to "complete" this Rom before I continue working on WM6.1.

If the Rom is not released tonight, it will be out tomorrow morning.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dimisxxx:
Hello my friend

I can t just wait for your final release i think that i will prefer this one that the 6.1 because i think that it will be a lot of development until is stable like your others roms.....so what time you gonna upload the final?????????????????? please i cant wait to fix my phone....:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
uploading in a few hours. There are quite a few apps that don't work with WM6.1 atm.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
K's WM6.0 Final RELEASED

Final Rom is now up. Updated Change log again, might wanna check that out. Pagepool changer and auto installation starter pack is included.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
Thank you K,

Gonna taste it soon. Installing it now. Will report later.

Edit:

I am sorry to tell you this K,

I couldn't find any bug yet. Everything is working good. Thank you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
good job as usual kin0kin.. nothing to complaint.. guess gonna be sticking with this until an equivalent WM 6.1 is out..

just to add variety.. to compliment the great ROM, here is a poorlyduck's welcomehead for those wanting to change.. looks great with K's latest.. (see attached pic)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
cool, glad that you guys like it. I made sure I patch every single hole I could find before releasing this one...hence...final version :D

I'm thinking of working on a different color scheme for future Roms, with complete makeover for Comm Manager, dialpad, WMP skin, Audio Manager, and etc...But at the same time, I'll also keep the black/gray theme...so there'd be 2 releases for a single Rom. Reason being black seems a little difficult to see under the bright sun. Otherwise, it's very professional looking.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sd619:
Nice ROM K, but it looks like I'll be sticking with VP3G for a while. I flashed back and forth and back and forth, but I still keep getting the roaming icon whenever I switch to your ROM. That's the only thing that bothers me about it. I don't want to be blindly charged by AT&T, so I will stick to what I know is safe. If you get ever get that bug fixed, I may jump back on board. Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aaronsmckee:
That sounds very, very good, what kinda color scheme are you thinking of? Now that this is out (switched back from your Beta 2.0 ROM) I'll just have to twiddle my thumbs and wait for your new 6.1 release with all the bugs fixed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
Sporty yellow, or maybe blue->black gradient like WM7, or maybe orange/white like SE walkman phones :D I'll try to work around and get something most "practical" under the sun. Also, did you happen to get the roaming icon issue some people are getting with this Rom as well as several other Roms?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Is there a Lite version of this or is there just Lite for the Flexi? I couldn't find a link on the first page of this thread so I thought I would ask.

I realize that this is likely a stupid question and I probably haven't done enough reading (although I did search). I have been reading up on my new 8525 for days (hours this afternoon) so I though I would just ask. I have read a lot of good things about your work K (sounds great). Any help or direction would be appreciated; Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
There isn't a lite version and I didn't plan to release one. Then again, I may just release it....I'd strip out everything I could.

Once again, regarding those who have the roaming icon issue, did you guys run connection setup? I'm wondering if it has to do with the settings connection setup applied VS the settings used in vp3g's Rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sd619:
I ran the connection setup in your Rom and received the roaming icon. VP3G's Rom doesn't require us to run a connection setup as it installs AT&T settings automatically after installation.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
If you didn't run the connection setup, then there'd be no roaming icon? because if that is the case, I'd release a Final version that is dedicated to ATT users only. I will toss in the settings used in vp3g's Rom and have Connection setup disabled by default; there's no need to remove it as it sits in extended rom and doesn't take up any phone space. So for US users, do not run the connection setup, medianet settings will be applied by default just like vp3g's Rom.

I'd work on this as soon as I get the confirmation that the problem is due to the settings applied in connection setup. Let me know ASAP. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aaronsmckee:
hmm sporty yellow and/or blue black would be very nice (with yellow black/navy text is very good). I have not had any issue with the roaming icon nor with connection setup on this or your beta 2.0 rom (my network is ATT in Texas). Come on 2.0!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Thanks for the fast reply!

I was asking about Lite as I read on page one (FAQ's):

Q: The Rom doesn't look anything like the picture.

A: Chances are you downloaded the Lite Version. Full version is shown in the picture.

I now know this must refer to the Flexi ROM. I am looking for something that will give me lots of free program memory and speed. Would I be better of downloading this full ROM or the Flexi Lite?

I am currently using Schaps 4.31 Lite but it sounds like this is the ROM for speed. I'll keep my eyes open for a striped version but in the mean time, would the Flexi ROM be the next best thing?

Thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wacky.banana:
Final ROM

Thanks K. I will load this up when I get more time.

Pity about 6.1 not being stable enough; however right decision made to walk away until something better comes along.

WB
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sd619:
I just reflashed to your ROM and noticed that the roaming icon is in fact there after before I can run the connection setup. I think it was determined in another thread that this bug was due to the operating system, but I don't believe anyone has gotten to the root of it yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
damn! :mad: I just done fixing the ATT Rom lol.

I'm wondering if people getting the roaming icon is living around certain states. If vp3g's Rom doesn't have this problem, then it must be something to do with the registry settings. Anyway, try to flash this Rom with ATT operator settings and see if you still get the problem. -uploading now-

@Jazz8

Actually that was indeed referring to my LITE Rom back from 1.21...I didn't bother cooking other LITE Roms since then as there were many Lite Roms floating around - Pandora naked/shamanix's/Schap's. Also, the FlexiRom itself, if you remove all the optional apps from extended Rom then do a hard reset, is pretty much a Lite Rom. If you have read about the Flexi Rom, you should know that it suffers from slow down compared to this Rom. The only culprit that I could think of is because too many apps were installed as cabs. Therefore, I've came to the conclusion that if you take a Lite Rom, and install a bunch of apps to make it similar to a Full rom where these apps were cooked in, the Lite Rom will be much slower than the Full Rom Despite having the exact same apps. Hence, Lite Rom no longer interests me too much. But if people still want Lite Rom from me, I'd cook it for the last time.

Also, regarding storage space, yes, this Rom has about 10-15mb less space compared to some super Lite Roms, but do take note of what I said. OTOH, if you compare my Full Rom vs Schap's Full Roms, or any other Full Roms which has about the same amount of apps installed, you'd notice that my Rom Actually has about 8mb more free space (i.e. Schap's 4.31 is around 48mb of free space, mine's 58mb). The reason is simple, I cooked in a bunch of apps into extended Rom which is "hidden" and "non existent" to most people who aren't too technical about Roms. Technically, all Roms have the same amount of space, but if you don't use up the spaces in Extended Rom, and if the users don't know how to make use of the Extended Rom storage space, then it is simply wasted....there's about 9mb of space there. So, despite my Rom being a "Full" Rom, there's actually quite a bit more advantage over some other Full Roms in terms of free storage space as I made use of 90% of the extended Rom storage space compared to those who'd only used 10% or less of the available space in Extended Rom.

@wacky

It's gonna be awhile before WM6.1 is "matured"....after messing with it for a little, I decided to slow down the process of cooking a WM6.1 Rom for one simple reason - the Rom is still fresh, lots of bugs and issues need to be discovered first, and I'd like the general public do me that favor. ;)

K's ATT WM6.0 Final TEST Rom

http://rapidshare.com/files/89475590/K_s_ATT_WM6.0_Final__4mbpp_.rar.html

as per titled, those who suffers from the RIOD (Roaming Icon of Death), please test this Rom and see if the problem is still there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sd619:
I just tried your AT&T Rom, and the RIOD is still present. Thanks for trying kin0kin. You do make a very well put together Rom. I'll play with it some more and see if I can't get to the root of the RIOD problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MDMC:
is there a possibility to change the layout of the software keyboard to german?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Let me begin by saying thanks again for your quick replies and time you took to respond in detail to my question. I must admit that I still need to do a lot more reading to fully understand how everything works to maximize program memory/ speed.

From what I understanding, this ROM is fast, stable and tweaked to perfection (Final). Is the Flexi ROM updated as well? I mean, if I were to use it and take out all or most of the apps in the extended ROM would it be comparable to this ROM if it were "Lite"?

I am now starting to understand a little more, the advantages/ disadvantages to lite vs Full (cooked) ROMS but I still need patience. In my situation, I want to keep my program memory as large as possible and I usually just load my extra programs onto my MicroSD card. I use programs like pocket breeze and ilauncher as opposed to HTC in my "main memory". I thought that my 8525 would likely run faster with just a few programs in main (program) memory and most on the SD but perhaps this isn't necessarily the case.

If you make a final Lite version, I'll definitely use it but if there isn't others interested, I totally understand you not wanting to cook one. I guess for now, I'll try both but I'll start with this as it's "finalized". Thanks again, I really appreciate your time and all your work in this community.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] myk980:
This is a excellent Rom,never bug until now

very good job kinOkin

:):):):)

yes,in the advance config, go to keyboard-->keyboard layout and choise german
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
@MDMC

If you can find the msim96.dll from a german rom with a german keyboard layout, you should be able to install it and it will have a german layout. Otherwise, look for 3rd party keyboard as there are many much better keyboard out there. If you use PCM Keyboard, you can easily change the keyboard to any layout by editing the layout file.

@myk980

That changes the hardware keyboard layout, I think he wants the soft-keyboard (on-screen)? at least that's what I understood, not sure if that's what he meant though lol

@Jazz8

If you look at the first page, beside the apps are some markings. Those marked with EXT ROM are in extended Rom and not in "program memory". Removing those apps won't make a difference in the total Program memory/free memory. Apps that actually uses program memory are:

0.70mb, Adobe Flash Lite

4.53mb, Arcsoft MMS

0.24mb, BT FTP (essential, FTP via BT)

0.17mb, SRS WOW

1.1mb, HTC Audio Manager

1.70mb, HTC Album

0.30mb, Enlarge Start Menu

2.12mb, HTC Home

0.05mb, Random Access

????mb, Task Manager (uninstallable)

6.24mb, NetCF3.5 (Essential, for some apps to run)

Pretty much just 10 Apps + 2 essential Apps....I'd actually categorize Flash Lite as essential but oh well... Personally, of all these Apps, I don't really use MMS, and I rarely use HTC Album. All others are quite essential. If I remove all these, there'd be 17mb+ free space, making the Rom 75mb free space. Anyway, making a lite Rom is a piece of cake and I'd release on in the next few days. Only thing is that, from past experience, I thought there'd be more people who'd want the Lite Rom but after I released it, only a handful of people actually chose the Lite Rom over the Full Rom.

Here's the history of my Roms:

v1.00

v1.10 (written off the same day it was released as 1.21 took over)

v1.21

v1.21b

V1.30

v1.30a

v1.31 (Flexi) - Based on 1.30a

v1.30b

Final

I'd say 1.30a/Flexi is quite old.....:o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sd619:
I've been playing with the Threaded SMS application installed during the Auto Cab Installation procedure. How can I enable sound notifications when I send/receive an SMS with this program? For now, I just get a visual notification with no sound or vibration even when I have the volume settings all the way up on my phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
Yes you can. Just set it from setting - system - notification. Assign a sound for it. It's working.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] r4y_m4n:
this may sound like a stupid noob question (since i don't know anything)

i've updated before (k's previous version of this rom)

and it always says (on the disclaimer) that we have to have HardSPL v7 before we flash the rom

and im not sure if this is new or not, but im trying to install the K's FINAL rom, and i clicked on "SPL-2.02/2.10/2.30 New Bootloader" then i clicked on next

and nwo it's giving me a warning saying that "intended solely for SPL 1.11 and you MUST have 1.11 Hard-SPL installed"

so does that mean i go to 1.11? did you forgot to change the disclaimer?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
I just tried this ROM and it is snappy! I was impressed with the speed considering the rich features. Unfortunately, as I expected, the program memory is to low for my liking especially once I add Pocket Informant, PBreeze, and a few other programs.

After reading and trying other ROMs, I'm convinced this is the direction for me. I am torn and I may end up coming back to this ROM despite the program memory left once all are installed. I'd like to see a "lightning fast" ROM and since your ROMs are said (by many) to be the fastest, I figure it would be even faster Lite. I looked for a previous Lite version to test but had no luck. Perhaps others could let me know how they found the speed of previous Lite versions and, if there is enough interest to get a Lite version out, that would be great!

I am not going to expect or ask you to cook a Lite ROM just for me but, perhaps others would chime in for their support (if they read this). In any case, I thank you for your continuing work and the time you took to explain things to me. Take care
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
I'm still fairly new to all of this but I just got my 8525 and upgraded to HardSPL v7. I just flashed this ROM a few hours ago without that warning or any other problems. From my reading, you should upgrade to HardSPL v7 before flashing. Check out this guide for an instruction link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299462

Good Luck!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
I didn't make any changes to how I cook, also didn't change the disclaimer so I'm not really sure why you are getting problems now when you didn't get it last time.

Lite Rom Uploaded

Check first post to see what's in the Rom and What's not.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dimisxxx:
FANTASTIC..............

You are tha MAN ..............thanks for your best rom is the only think i can say CONGRATULATIONS MAN...VERY FAST ROM.:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Sorry for the double post!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Had to do a double take when I read that last response. Thanks a million! I immediately downloaded it and just flashed but once it finished flashing the HTC screen started and faded to white but then nothing (just a white screen indefinitely).

I am re-downloading it now from Mega as opposed to rapid share, perhaps I had a bad download. I'll let you know how it goes shortly.

Once again; thanks so much! Can't wait to get this going.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] myk980:
I was only responding to MDMC, how to change the keyboard layout virutal in tytn,

Rom an excellent, well made
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
Just tried to re-flash and I had the same problem. The flashing goes fine and it starts at the (white background) HTC screen but once the HTC sign fades away, the screen just stays white.

I hope this problem doesn't cause you a lot more time. You have likely already invested quite a bit into this. In any case, I'll keep my eyes peeled for a fix and try this out as soon as it's ready.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
You're right, just tested and it does stuck in the white screen. Fixing it now, and sorry for the inconvenience. Check back in about 20 mins, and I'll make sure it works this time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
RIOD Fix

For those having the roaming icon of death, can you please try to install this cab, do a soft reset, and see if you still get the problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jazz8:
No inconvenience; Glad to hear that it wasn't something on my end of things. Thanks for looking into it :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
It appears that the default.hv is screwed, gonna take a little more time to fix that as I'm working from scratch again. Regardless, I will get the Lite rom going..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
Lite Rom Fixed

Lite Rom is fixed and links are updated ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wacky.banana:
K6 Final - Well Done That Man!!

Kin0kin,

Decided to make some time today to move th V6 final. Just in the last stages of customisation; however thought I would say how impressed I am by this ROM. Its a work of art.

There are so many nice touches e.g. the auto-config tool, the speed and smoothness of operation, and the sense of stability. Well worth the time and effort to get this right.

The problem you have is that a few of us are going to need serious convincing to move to the next generation of ROM.

The one thing that does irk me a little is the dialer. When I tested your beta ver 2 over the weekend you seem to have sorted it there. Were you not able to port it over to this version? Secondly are we stuck with this skin and nothing else? Must admit that I don't find gray/black visually stimulating.

Still, given the massive success of this ROM, this is a minor but irritating point. :)

Good job, well done. The much deserved donation will be with you shortly.

Cheers

WB
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kin0kin:
@wacky

This Rom was made to resemble the Kaiser/Touch interface and UI, which I thought was pretty sleek and professional looking. However, as I said a few posts back, I'm considering working on a Rom with some other theme - blue/black like WM7, or maybe sporty yellow/white. The Rom will have most Apps skinned to match the theme, and I will not release a Lite version of it as I'd want to deliver the Rom in a complete package.

btw, you have pm.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wacky.banana:
Kin0kin,

The colour scheme idea for the new rom sounds very interesting. Will give it some thought.

Meanwhile, PM back at you (check your inbox).

Thanks

WB