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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lisitai1003@gmail.com:
I just don't understand it's the same Moto z line but why Moto z got their nougat that much earlier,and I'm not even surprise if we don't get update at all,see if lineage will do a better job for us
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Calm down. The Play will get it, because that's what has been announced. They're just taking a little time to deliver, but that may be because they found some issues in a soak test. Better we get a solid build, right?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lisitai1003@gmail.com:
Guess you are right:good: we will see,there are only few days left until the end of January
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kenbrownstone:
So I'm on the Verizon play droid that pretty much mean I'm screwed right?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
It means you have to wait March for Nougat, but you'll get it :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kenbrownstone:
My moto z force had it months ago
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Dhavaldab:
They have promised for end of the Q4 but still no updates. Moto G4 series already started getting update N. Not sure what is show stopper for Moto Z play :confused:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
There's still a week to go. Calm down. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
for moto z play unlocked[emoji3]

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/824216365393444865?cn=cmVwbHk=

:D
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coolkingler1:
No idea. We can speculate, but there are way too many variables.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] markwebb:
Official: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-get-nougat-in-february-moto-z-play-in-march/
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
A sad news Motorola now Lenovo is going to lose a lot of followers ... very disappointed I am.

[emoji17] [emoji17]

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
The announcement about Nougat made last year said that the update would start rolling out for the Z Series (meaning the Z, Z Force and Z Play) on Q4. And it did for the Z and Z Force un some markets.

My guess as to why the Z Play is still on Marshmallow is because it has a different processor (while the Z and Z Force have the same one). I think Lenovo put most of their development team on the Z/Z Force with a smaller number on the Z Play while another team worked on the G4/G4 Plus. Once Nougat started being released, the development team focused on the Z Play which would explain the delay.

The G4/G4 Plus got Nougat before the Z Play because they had more users.

Anyway, it's just speculation but it would explain why the Z Play is one of the last Moto device of 2016 to get Nougat.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coolkingler1:
Yep, but that's for US, EU folks might still get it soon.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
This is just a rehash of other posts on this thread. It's misleading, because it's talking about Moto updates in the US (where Verizon operates) which are subject to an exclusivity agreement. That agreement doesn't affect countries where Verizon isn't available, which is why Moto Germany have twice now confirmed that their Plays will get Nougat 'at the end of January'. One assumes that this will apply to all regions not subject to the Verizon exclusivity agreement. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
Okay, that's the same news we talked about a week ago, it's about the US variants of the Z Play. It's only bad news, if you bought your phone in the US. This doesn't concern the international variants of the phone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
for devices unlocked in end January???

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
No-one is certain, but that's what Moto Germany are saying, yes. (Not in America, though.)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
thanks[emoji6]

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
Moto Z Play Nougat update in early preview testing

The invite E-Mails are out. Not sure if Android Police is referring to those or if they have confirmation that the beta is actually rolling out now. Either way, only for select MFN members with an invite.

Hard to imagine that there will be a final build this month.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
I'm tired of telling people (and I'm not the only one) that there are different versions of the Z Play and that news from American website almost always refer to the US variants. Here again, this article doesn't invalidate the timeline given by Moto Germany.

Please try to take this fact into account when you report news about the Nougat update.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
The "different versions" of the Z Play pretty much only refers to the software channels, the hardware itself is basically identical globally (with minor exceptions, like the Indian 4Gb/64Gb Z Play). The Nougat Update won't differ much between regions.

There have been zero reports of beta/soak tests before this date for the Z Play. Moto does not release final version updates without a previous soak test, at least they haven't done this ever since the MFN existed. I very, seriously doubt that this is going to change with the reteu Moto Z Play (there is no retde software channel this time, Moto Germany would have to talk about a reteu release).

In addition, several German tech sites are currently citing a Moto press release that states "Q1 2017" as the Nougat release date for the Z Play, even after the G4 and X Play. That would match the previously mentioned "March" release date.

I'm not sure why you think you need to lecture people on this topic [MENTION=5148513]DadOudidOuda[/MENTION] or why you are getting tired of it. But my assumption is not based on ignorance and I'm well aware of the different Z Play "versions".
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
First, I'm sorry if I came across a bit harsh.

I'm talking about different "version" because of the Verizon one in the US (Moto Z Play Droid). So, yes, the internals are the same but there are different versions. We're going to see the same thing that happened with the Moto Z : the unlocked model in the US is going to have to wait longer than the international model. Plus, the update will depend on the software channel since they probably won't roll the update to all regions at once, but that's another issue.

If you have news pertinent to an European release please do share them (as long as the source is not the American websites talking about the US variants), this kind of information is actually great to have.

I'm not lecturing anyone, it's just that people on XDA are from all over, and giving them information only pertinent to the US Moto Z Play (without mentioning it) is misinformation.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I'm not sure why 'German Tech Sites' are likely to know more than Motorola themselves, and the Tweet was very clear about the 'end of January'. I think we can all assume that the reason for the delay was that Verizon have an exclusive, but that won't interfere with a European release because Verizon don't exist here.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
They are reasonably reputable sites referring to an official press release - that's why. I'm generally more inclined to believe a press release than a Twitter statement.

And there is the simple fact that there has never been a final, channel-wide roll-out less than 6 days after the announcement of the first beta test by Moto. A January release is simply not feasible with all the facts we have so far. Miracles happen and I won't categorically deny its possibility - but I find it exceptionally unlikely.

March - the date given by the Canadian carrier and implied by today's press release sounds far more likely. February is not impossible. January would go against everything we know with the exception of a Twitter statement.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I've just asked Motorola Germany to confirm the release date and they replied thus: 'Hi, we expect the update for the end of January in Germany. Unfortunately we cannot speak for other European countries...'. As they are 'reteu', this is going to be Europe-wide. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
The article was not about Verizon's locked Moto Z Play Droid, but about the unlocked version. It didn't mention a region but the same invite went out in Spanish as well. The MFN Nougat beta test for the unlocked Z Play does not appear to be limited to the US region.

Fact of the matter is: Looks like invites for the beta were sent and it's about to start or has already started (no confirmation about the latter). We can be reasonably certain that there was no reteu beta test before, these things are reasonably public and always leak. Moto always does a MFN beta/soak test before a wide roll-out and it always lasts more than a week. Hence my conclusion that a wide roll-out of a final version in January is next to impossible and would go against everything Moto has done in the past.

Q1 2017 and with a specific month (February) given for other devices, seems to imply March, with (end of) February at least a possibility.

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Well, I certainly hope he's right ... I just don't see it happening. That would be a rather unprecedented soak test.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I was very specific with my question and the answer was unequivocal. I guess we'll know soon enough. (Surely it only makes sense for it to be delayed this long because they're abiding by the Verizon exclusive terms. Because they don't apply outside the US, we should be working to a different timeline. If not, why the delay?)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
Why don't you ask that question to all of the Moto Z owners world-wide that are still waiting for the Nougat update?

Also, please stop doing full quotes like that, it makes this thread really hard to read and I believe it's against the forum rules as well.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Well, I'm asking you because you seem to have the answers. I'm just confirming that for the third time, Motorola Germany has confirmed that Z Play owners in Germany will be getting Nougat 'at the end of January'. And because there isn't a specifically German variant, that means European phones will get it, which fits with the information that Verizon have an exclusive deal which doesn't apply in Europe.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
It just doesn't fit with all of the other information we have about the state of Nougat on the Z Play, including official MFN beta invites, an official press release and the fact that the first global roll-out for Nougat on the unlocked Z happened several months after Verizon's Z Droid received it. That's all - more facts pointing against a January release than for it. But I'd be very happy to be wrong on this.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I would also be happy if you were wrong on it, because I'm finding you quite annoying and it would quieten you down.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] skylex365:
worldwide??? moto z got 7.0 in December (india)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] felipevsw:
I've just received the notification to update to Nougat! Hooray!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] :
reteu no notification :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] hyoga68:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/01/25/moto-z-play-nougat-update-early-preview-testing/

Seems like they're testing Nougat
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
What's your channel of update?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vinnegsh:
are you part of the soak test?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
http://i.memeful.com/media/post/kRp0ARl_700wa_0.gif

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] felipevsw:
Retbr

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No soak test
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
Are you absolutely certain you never signed up for the Motorola Feedback Network? It would be odd for them to start an opt-in beta at the exact same time as a public soak test.

If you didn't, this would be odd, but good news. Sounds like we're really getting Nougat soon, then and they're skipping the beta (although: is that really good news?).
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vinnegsh:
i'm on retbr as well and got nothing. **** me.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Well. Here we go... http://www.theandroidsoul.com/moto-z-play-nougat-update-npn25-137-15-2/
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vinnegsh:
just waiting for the zip file to sideload it then
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
The guy who took the screenshot has posted and said he's not in Portugal, as stated, but Brazil. No, not reteu yet, it seems.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vinnegsh:
i'm in brazil as well and got nothing. gotta wait to see if it'll show up today
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
If you see the post up of you, there's a link...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
It's just arrived for the unlocked Z in Britain, but no sign of the Play update.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] neandertaler19:
The update for the play is coming in january.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Really? The Motorola press release said 'Q4 2016'. :confused:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] neandertaler19:
Well, as always, schedules are not always kept. In Germany roll-out to the Z began today and it was said that the Z Play is coming in January.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
I'm in France and so far nothing (I'm so impatient to get this update ^^'). Where did you read about this update?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
It's on the Z page on Reddit. Multiple sources.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] neandertaler19:
I found it on some german news sites (e.g. https://www.mobiflip.de/moto-nougat-update/). According to them, Motorola send a press release stating that, starting today nougat is rolling out for Z and Z Force. G and G Play will follow before christmas and Moto Z Play will get the update in January.

Also this tweet (in German), stating the same: https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/806125038042808321
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
I would be disappointed if the Moto G got the update before the Z Play (although January is not too long a wait)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Odd, though, considering the Z already has it.

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I just got updated to the October security patch on my unlocked Play. It took forever and I allowed myself to think that it just might be Nougat. My own fault, really. Anyone know what goodies the October patch brings, if anything?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
Just got the October security patch too, and I don't think it brings anything, security patches don't bring any goodies.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
And now Motorola Germany are saying that the Z Play won't get it's Nougat update until some time in January. So much for Q4, as promised, along with the Z.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] freibooter:
Well, it's not impossible, that some Moto Z Play devices somewhere are getting it this year and the global roll-out won't happen until January. That way both infos we got from Lenovo would be kind of correct. And after all that happened so far, It wouldn't entirely surprise me if we saw a Verizon Moto Z Play Droid Christmas roll-out where everyone else will have to wait another couple of weeks.

But since there are still no confirmed reports of a soak test anywhere, January seems more likely than December at this point.

And while I wish that the delay would mean that they could jump straight to 7.1.1, I doubt this is going to happen either.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
confirmed. until January [emoji6]

https://www.google.com.mx/amp/www.t...moto-g4-series.htm?client=ms-android-motorola

enviado desde moto z play.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
It's not been officially confirmed, but it's looking like the Z Play might get 7.1.1 :)

http://www.theandroidsoul.com/moto-x-play-android-7-1-1-update-release/
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] slainer68:
That's boring to know that the update to Nougat is surely taking more time for the compatibility with MotoMods... when you're not using them at all... But great for the very few people using them...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
I agree

enviado desde moto z play.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] andy55:
http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto...at_receives_wifi_certification-news-22188.php

Looks like it'll be hitting soon
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Slightly irritating, as it was rumoured that the Play would be going straight to 7.1.1 in January (which would have been preferable.) Does this apply to the unlocked, or just the Verizon Droid model?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Let's hope it will hit before holidays.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] AxlAndr3:
Soak Test from 7.1 in Z Play starts 20 december
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Yes, it's my link. I posted it. I'm simply pointing out that

after

I posted it, the guy who actually got the update said that it was his screenshot, but he's in Brazil, rather than Portugal as the website reported. :p
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] azuroo:
Im from brazil too, nothing yet

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] slainer68:
So basically we are going to receive first 7.0 and not 7.1? Come on Moto...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] cdneto:
Come on Felipe, how did u receive that? I'm from Brazil too, MFN opted in and retbr ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
in mexican recived Nougat, unlocked z play

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] azuroo:
Screenshots?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
Desde mi ZPlay 4G/LTE
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/332605307085495?view=permalink&id=412320502447308

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
You took screenshot on Facebook of screenshot of the update? Not suspicious at all.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
You mean you don't get your updates through Facebook? The heck you say!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
check link

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Another thing: how can you have exact same build number as Brazilian model?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
no idea

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
In what part of Mexico are you?

En que estado estas en México?

enviado desde moto z play.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] :
English only on XDA please.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
yes

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http://www.greenbot.com/article/315...-and-moto-z-play-nougat-updates-detailed.html

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
http://i.memeful.com/media/post/1RXXDRp_700wa_0.gif

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] itskapil:
Can you post a screenshot of your 'About device' screen?

And why the language is Portuguese? Do you use the device in Portuguese in Brazil?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vinjurr:
http://m.gsmarena.com/nougat_update_starts_hitting_motorola_moto_z_play-news-22986.php
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] larsdennert:
Naw they speak Brazilian in Brazil, right? Lol

Verizon is always a couple months behind a release on a particular carrier model. It takes them time to bloat it up. Always been that way. Moto had been very poor, breaking promises on updates. Anything we get will be a stroke of luck.

On the other hand, Moto services are more reliable than AOSP so the trade off can be worth it. I had to trade my pixel XL to my wife for the z because of it. The hardware is top notch too.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
No, they speak Portuguese.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] cdneto:
Brazilian unbranded models are receiving Nougat by OTA since yesterday ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
We know, also from portugal.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] itskapil:
Is it stable update? Or Soak test? Looks like stable because no one has specifically said it's soak.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
The guy who first posted the screenshot said he wasn't in any soak programme.

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The same site has just posted a Nougat screenshot from Spain for the Play.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mercuriox85:
the bug of the low notification sound has been resolved?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
in My z play, the sound notification are high, but not unlink with call ringtone, same volumen

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
https://andro4all.com/2017/01/actualizar-moto-z-play-android-nougat

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] khakala:
No update yet in Finland (reteu)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
We have to wait a little bit, It has started in Spain and portugal.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
Mi Z Play is of UK unlocked, buyer in Amazon UK

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] AxlAndr3:
Sorry, but is not Portugal, but Brasil
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Ravi Venugopal:
ntn yet for retin
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Let's post when we DO have news, rather than when we don't? There really is no point in people posting that nothing has yet happened.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
Nougat has apparently started rolling out in Europe. No luck for me yet

http://m.gsmarena.com/nougat_update_starts_hitting_motorola_moto_z_play-news-22986.php
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
http://i.memeful.com/media/post/jRLkLjM_700w_0.jpg

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
Sorry, I didn't refresh the thread before posting. Was still on page 37!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] elgringoloco77:
So anybody who can grab the ota and post it?, on the other phones i had it was just a few hours when the ota was already uploaded
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
**** goes really fast when someone shows screenshot of long awaited update.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute12345601:
you have Nougat 7.0?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] iron maiden:
To see when we see some z play in europe with nougat

Salute
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
Rooting Nougat: Remembering the timeline it probably is not possible that Google or Lenovo integrated the fix for f2fs. That means that neither Magisk nor SuperSU systemless are supposed to work (they create a RAM disk using a loopback device on /data - this is currently broken on f2fs file system which is being used for /data), like on Marshmallow, and you have the choice between phh superuser (always systemless, don't know why it works but hopefully it will continue to do so) and SuperSU in system mode.

Probably a good way:

1. fastboot boot twrp, not modify system

1a. for being safe do a backup of everything you want in twrp, at least boot which will be modified by phh superuser

2. install zip phh 2.59 superuser.zip (copy it to somewhere you have access to from twrp, OTG should be also possible)

3. Install Phh Superuser from Play store

If someone could confirm that it works this way it would be nice :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Not yet.

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