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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] -=MoRpH=-:
Could someone grab the reteu update.zip? :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] cdneto:
January security patch?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
Sure

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] microcox:
Does someone know why nothing appears inthsi page ...

http://motorola.erfanabdi.ir/?model....24.231.19.addison.retail.en.US&carrier=reteu

...while some people began receiving the update in Germany on the reteu channel ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] yekollu:
Yes
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute123456:
and channel software??

Desde mi ZPlay 4G/LTE
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
Yep
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
I think the Build ID for a german MM with December Security Level is MPNS24.104-44-16

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] microcox:
Yeah, my mistake.

But it isn't working either :(

http://motorola.erfanabdi.ir/?model....104-44-16.addison.retail.en.US&carrier=reteu
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] yekollu:
reteu

but my friend's Single SIM Moto Z Play (also reteu) has not got the update yet
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] G4liant:
I'm working on getting the reteu ota file. Should have it in a few hours. (My Moto Z Play was on the oldest firmware so this takes some time, while also documenting the update process for myself with logcat, to be sure that i pull a working image)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Any sign of an ota reteu outside Germany yet?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
Curious as well. In the USA on reteu constantly mashing "system updates"
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
Any update on that OTA file :)?

Const. clicking on software update with operavpn set to germany and no update :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
Vpn is not gonna change nothing, I think it's the retail channel of the phone that matters
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
I am on RETEU software channel. I saw here that german RETEU headsets started getting nougat so i thought its IP based release.

But how else can they target specific german headsets ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] jonnyd100:
This is exactly what I was thinking! The purpose of software channels I thought would be to restrict what area would be receiving the update so how can they refine it any further to just German devices?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
When somone with an unlock bootloader gets the lastest ota can you please give me a nandroid back of the system and boot.img
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] yekollu:
There are two Handsets in our home. Mine (Dual SIM) got the update and the other one hasnt yet.

Both are German handsets
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] holabola:
Also on retus on Republic Wireless. No OTA yet for me as well.

As of right now, the only way to update to Nougat is with an unlocked Bootloader (and/or root) correct?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I assumed that they would test the build out in Germany for 48 hours and then, if no problems presented themselves, roll it out elsewhere. Just a guess, with no evidence of any kind to back it up - but I like the idea very much because it means that Nougat is about to drop for the rest of us. *Crosses everything*
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] -=MoRpH=-:
Im from Germany and still waiting for the update.... ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Caldair:
I'm in Canada, and I've got 2 of these from Amazon.de on RetEU and so far nothing. Just tried Motorola Device Manager and it shows my correct current version, 24.231.19.addison.retail.en.US, but tells me that there are no updates for my device. ... Had to try that route, before I totally wear out my welcome in the built in Android update check... Guess I'll just have to stay patient.... No problem.:eek:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
But now for real.

How does motorola (lenovo) choose who gets Nougat on RETEU ?

I have tried the folowing (to try to go around geolocation).

Wireless

Wireless with operavpn set to germany/netherland

Data connection on Vipnet or data connection on T-mobile

Data connection with operavpn

No sim in phone just wireless

No sim in phone just wireless with operavpn

WTF ?

When will nougat arrive ? And batter jet how does motorola choose which device to upgrade ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
Just flash it with ADB...

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Good luck with that :'?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
And where can i find RETEU image to sideload ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] holabola:
Same question I have right here.

Also, does it require a wipe? :/
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
https://mega.nz/#!WZIUBQxY!-1ezgzRPZ5ap-y-chhjOAaISphpD1kuIcmiv6mqGJSc

Works only if your retail have December patch.

If your retail have not, take a sit, go for a coffee and wait to lenorola but I can guarantee the wait will be long.

It's so difficult for you guys unlock the bootloader and just upgrade to nougat?

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The update with ADB erase all your data. Will not ask for your permission cause it's necessary :')

The update with TWRP does not erase nothing. You can do a dirty flash without problems.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
It is not hard to unlock bootloader. I have been flashing and rooting android phones since galaxy s, and flashed more phones in my shop that i can even remember.

But whats the point? There is literally 0 support for Moto Z play. Unofficial chinese TWRP that causes more problem than fixes. Unofficial lineage os in which more stuff doesn't work than works. Whats the upside in unlocking bootloader?

Upside

??

Downside

Potential warranty problems

Potencial hard brick due to lack of support for proper recovery, rom ....

Root is not a problem on z play for me.

I don't need greenify because battery is extremely good, don't need to remove system apps because there is no bloatware on this phone. Phone is fast, battery friendly and very well made.

Only think that i need is titanium backup. But all apps that i need to restore have other backup option but TB would be faster.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DieOrange:
Just a warning. Do not update/sideload a update from a other region. No further OTAs.

Wait for the official Nougat Update, OTA Update for your Region or a flashable full Firmware is available if you could flash if something goes wrong.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
Unlock the bootloader doesn't mean install TWRP or flash a ROM.

My respects for all that devs who are working for keep this phone update.

What I'm saying is if you unlock the bootloader you can flash with ADB or even TWRP (and the recovery Chinese isn't the unique recovery for our device) without any risk. If you flash without the bootloader unlock you can't do a downgrade, man! And you will have a pretty stone.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
I respect all kind opinions, if you don't have hurry for have nougat, take a sit and relax yourself. But if you really want nougat, and I know you want for a previous post, it's simple: come to the dark side.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
And if I flash and something goes wrong ?

There is no support for this device. If you think there is ample support. Go over to galaxy s2/3/4/5/6/7 or note/2/3/4/5 forum and you will see what I am talking about.

And sorry if I misunderstood parts of your post but its very hard to read with understanding.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
For this device are support on English, Spanish and Chinese. The only thing you need to do it's follow the instructions and have a backup. I have the good experience to guide one person who do the process and he's already enjoying nougat.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
Not real, i'm doing it since moto g 2nd gen.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
And me some models before. So what? He is right! It makes no sense to sideload *today* a other Region update WITH a locked bootloader. [emoji6]

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
Yes but...OTA's arrive if the channel doesn't change.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
The channel never change.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
That's a good Answer! Other models changes the Region = it was visible. Who knows there was something hidden in the code/deviceid? I cant see nothing with my "wrong" sideloaded Update.. We will see when the next EU Update arrives (or not)

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
Using the right file explorer you are able to keep timestamps when moving or copying.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
Never had a problem with that.

And what are you moving and copying that timestamp and other attributes are of concern ?

All of my data is stored on external sd that is vfat. I literally never ever had a problem with that.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Temchenko:
Is that RETEU image? Looks like Brazilian OTA. Which build is that?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
I would disagree with keeping your bootloader lock.

Like we have all read about 20,000 times , people are jumping up and down and ranting about issues with Nougat.

Well if you unlocked your bootloader, you can flash freely back and forth from MM to Nougat without any harmful results.

Also, my plan is to update my Nougat ROM when updated happens.

The benefit is you don't have to wait for moto or your carrier to send you the ota update.

I'm in Canada and we haven't even seen or heard about the Nougat update but because my bootloader is unlocked and I have TWRP installed bam I can have a taste nougat.

I wasn't impressed with Nougat, found it a little glitchy and have flashed back to MM.

There's very little development for this phone, yes I agree but we really don't need custom ROMs, we have an almost pure version on AOSP on our phone , unlike Samsung and their stupid TouchWiz over bloated operating system.

I have always believed in unlocking your bootloader as it's has many more benefits than disadvantages, yes warranty is the only issue but I have never once had to make any warranty claim and I've had 8 phones in 6 years.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] -=MoRpH=-:
It is the Brazilian update. I'm searching also for the reteu update.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Temchenko:
Let us know if you'll find one. Will sideload it.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
Don't forget the manufacturing savings. Devices get produced cheaper. My Moto Z Play is the replacement for a Moto X Play which has power leakages in the USB port and a loose contact at the micro SD. I sent it to the seller (Conrad in Germany) as these things are failures, battery lasts often only half a day. They sent it to Lenovo. Lenovo refused warranty because the bootloader is unlocked. Seller told me that the device is older than half a year and therefore I have to give some evidence that the failure was given at time of selling. I am not sure how to behave now, if I am able and willing to give that evidence or just never buy there again, but it would have been easier with warranty. The point is, that error report indicating that there is some error at the micro USB also appeared about a week ago on the Moto X Play of my wife which I also bought. Now I'm afraid it could have the same problem. Maybe the port does not deal fine with every day plug in for charging after more than a year.. Motorola just had times where money needed to be saved, and that often leads to lowered quality.

In my opinion a device without warranty is better than a device which is unusable. I am not willing to live without right date/time after copying. Still have an Amazon Fire TV around which never was used because there were no root available. It was cheap (49 Euro), but without root available, I just could have saved that 49 Euro.

What I wanted to say: The decision may not be that easy for other people. How good quality of Moto Z Play is, only time will tell. If the only reason for unlocking would be to try nougat on Moto Z Play, my advice would be to wait.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] markwebb:
Maybe I missed it: why are we getting Nougat 7.0 (older version) and not 7.1? Hardware limitations?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
Lenovo limitations.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
I'm worried that they're going to leave us with this nougat aberration.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
I have a feeling they'll eventually update to last Nougat iteration then stop the updates at that point. Any mid-range phone I ever had only received one major update. Heck, the Flagship devices usually only get 2. Only phones I know that get more than that are Nexus and iPhone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
that is to say. We took the ****

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] ddiuit:
First Moto G was released on Android 4.3, then it got 4.4 and 5.0
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
What about the others since?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
The root it's here... Now available for nougat.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Caldair:
Moto X Play started on lollipop, got marshmallow, and will get nougat.

Lenovo may be slower than the real Motorola was when it comes to Android updates, but I give them a lot of credit for supporting their midrange/top-end devices for the same 2 years that Nexus devices were seeing.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
Another nougat bug is that it does not allow you to open more than 3 mail accounts in Gmail. The application is always closed. I'm the only one?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] ReOmbra:
5.0.2 and 5.1 moto g First gen

The longest Motorola( Google) device official supported
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] joshua764:
:laugh:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
My nerves got the best of me. Again :)

Sideloaded RETEU Nougat.

Don't know about the bugs some members are experiencing. But everything is more than fine here. And if I can sincerely say, if Moto/Lenovo update policy doesn't improve. This will be my last Moto phone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] DadOudidOuda:
Same here ^^'
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
Still waiting on reteu OTA in the US here. Really what a complete sh!t rollout. How can they go from updating before my old Nexus 4 to some pathetic rollout on a phone that isn't horribly popular to begin with? I don't have a PC or I'd have it on my phone already. Sorry had to rant.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
It could takes 7-21 days before its visible. I think its randomly picked.. They all do it so.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] markwebb:
This is my"wait it out phone" until I see the S8+ and Note 8. The best thing about this Moto Play is its battery.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Me too. Had the Note 7 and didn't want anything else that was out. So I got this to hold me over until the Note 8.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
What's the best guess for a reteu rollout to the rest of Europe? This coming week?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
My guess is March, but don't hold your breath.

On the other note. My sister has Huawei. Mate or something like that. With amount of carrier/Huawei bloatware that you can't even imagine. + custom Huawei overlay.

And she got nougat. Yes. Huawei with more bloatware then entire mzp nougat rom has managed to rollout nougat to their upper midrange phone.

I really had high hopes for Moto line :'(

Back on topic. You can sideload without any fear. There is official reteu ota on the other topic.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
The ota on the other topic has US in the filename. is it reteu?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
It starts with 25.

Brazilian ota starts with 24.

I think on the second page of that topic. You can see German guy posting link.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
No-one knows, of course. But they must have been using the German rollout as a test and everything seems stable, so it doesn't help them to wait longer than necessary. I'm very hopeful that they'll pull the trigger early this week for the rest of us.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
Here is the post I am talking about. And also the ota i used to sideload

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71082157&postcount=8
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mramendola:
And retus chanel????? when update to nougat???? any news???
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] st_18:
Kind of "amazing",retla just got an update... December patch :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
It's amazing! Without the December Patch you wont get the Nougat Update. So much whine in this Thread

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] st_18:
I know it's a requirement for nougat, but, consider this,those are SECURITY patchs, they'd have arrived long time ago (retla was on August patch, "how good",thanks to leonovo, they are the "best and faster" in Android updates).

I don't complain for not getting nougat, but for negligence on leonovo side to not even keep the same security patch among software channels.

If you get ofended by the critics about the maker of your phone, sorry...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] voom:
Nougat has a distribution as of Feb. 2017 of 1,2%! 7.1.1 0,3% and 7.0 0,9%

Meaning, the Moto Z Play is still among the very first getting it at all.

How does that account for the much complained about "bad Motorola update policy"?

Also I read 7.1.1 is already in the testing on the Moto Z meaning we will eventually get it, too...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Ejvyas:
source?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] voom:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Fargo_Zoidberg:
Probably not the info he was asking a source for...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] zoran89:
1.2 % out of all Android devices or 1.2% out of nougat compatible devices?

Because I have 2 galaxy tabs with 4.1, note 2 with 4.1.2 and note 1 with 4.1.2.

Xiaomi note 3 pro with Android 6.

That's 6 devices including mzp.

Only mzp has nougat. So that's almost 17% nougat distribution in my house.

But distribution on nougat compatible devices is 50%.

Statistics is bunch of numbers open to interpretation. On the above example you see why.

And yes, Motorola is to blame. They advertised nougat and nougat is expected sooner then later.

Nougat update isn't an update at all when android 8 is out.

Or better yet, as I said to Motorola support. Security update few months old is no security update. It's a joke.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
I much rather timely monthly security updates than rapid OS updates. Given that MM is a solid OS on this phone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
Well, in my office only one guy had nougat (Xperia xz) and we're about 15 with Android phones

Also, all the company phones (Samsung unlocked) Galaxy s7 didn't received it yet.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] voom:
Security Update - in my case usually about 1-2 months old - at all is definitely better than no security updates at all - the last generation of Android phones or maybe the one before that did mostly not ever get any security update (except nexus).

Of course the distribution numbers by Google refer to all active android devices, including the ones not suitable for N. Still it shows, that Moto is not unusually late but rather unusually early with the N updates. So I just don't get the need for rants. Also it is not like we are waiting for the device to be functional at all - MM is fine and stable and N adds a few nice extra features. So what the...is the problem here with those rants?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dachau:
My observation so far on the latest Nougat release of Z Play:

- battery time is the same as in MM

- performance is lower, seems more laggy and framerate drops when multitasking or swiping through homescreens!

Did anyone also notice that? Did an OTA upgrade without factory reset. reteu channel.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
You got the ota or you side loaded ?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dachau:
OTA. Got better after rebooting and disabling some Moto features. There seems to be the same problem on the Moto Z Play force in combination with the swipe to reduce screen size feature. However, this one was disabled when the problem started on my device.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] KimWex:
What did you disable for example?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dachau:
Shake to enable flashlight and the motion to enable the camera. But I guess the reboot could have fixed it as well.

Let's see if it happens again... Noone else had a similar experience?

Our ranting Dr. House here posted something that looks like the same problem into the official Lenovo forum, but the thread there got closed due to his non-official ROM source.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Do they ever drop ota releases at the end of the week (or at the weekend) or are we now waiting until next week?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
The last OTA I received ON RETUS was on a Thursday. I've never received an OTA, on any phone, over the weekend.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] KimWex:
I got the OTA update just now on reteu in France.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
What is the build number?

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They literally turned great phone into piece of crap. And they won't even admit it.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Screenshot please. Thanks.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] KimWex:
npn25.137-24-1
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
Let's wait and listen to more feedbacks
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Well, it does seem to have landed in France. Thanks [MENTION=8058990]KimWex[/MENTION].

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Did it say anything about containing the fix for low notifications? And does that now seem to work?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] KimWex:
Yes it contains the fix for low notifications and it works now
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
More feedback? How much more feedback do you need?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
If the build number is npn25.137-24-1, what does that tell us?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute123456:
retgb UK nothing[emoji17] [emoji17]

MZP 4G/LTE
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Raultor:
Received Nougat update in Spain.

Coming from MPNS24.104-44-16 December security patch.

Reteu channel.

Amazon model with double sim.

Looks like southern europe is getting the OTA.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lex.proprietario:
reteu Italy nothing :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I've no idea if Britain is in Southern Europe (or Europe at all, any more) but I don't care as long as we get it here and NOW. Odd that they're rolling it out over a weekend.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Chiinau:
Nothing on reteu France :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] BaRTaSs88:
Same on my reteu Poland... :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
It seems to be mainly (or exclusively?) French phones which are getting the update, including one guy who just put a French sim into his Play. Could it be just the French for a couple of weeks? *Smacks head against wall*