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[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
[MENTION=7703024]InterfaceNode[/MENTION]

I agree illegal - with either the phone call to bank or sending them your card and ID image, the latter would be more hackable from some scammers point as the servers it would go through may hold on to it for sometime and then of the storage means of it on TN systems. Not forgetting all companies have bad players as employees.

I did do that very thing about three days later (same card and name) same Textnow account and was flagged by the Fraud crap again. In my case it didn't work at different times of the day. On the Gift Card your billed for two months service, but I wasn't hit with the Fraud crap and it sailed through without a hitch.

I would caution anyone here about asking questions - making statements in the TextNow community and then posting here something similar (as I have only read there and noticed real names being used in some comments) in that community, but I have indeed made numerous email back and forth to them.

They could maybe link/think it's you of both places as the similarly to subjects.

I'm sure with XDA someone who works for TextNow would surely visit here and anything with TextNow would get their interest. Heads up to what you say.

Heck some of TN ideals have probably been found right here.

@- Know this when you have an TextNow account and speak to them, they record all conversations and details that have taken place - see the below as to the TextNow community Rep. responce to the users question.

[According to the notes on your account, I see that one of our chat agents helped you with this question.]

TextNow is a VoIP MVNO using Sprint. - Bad Deal even if cheap phones prices, refurbished rebuilt with subpar parts, wonder how they can call one NEW when they themselves void the manufactures warranty. FCC - FTC, Sprint, Attorney Generals of States, class action law suits are their main worry I'd say.

The mere fact of false advertising, New means New not like New or changed from being as it comes off the assembly line...

All returns have to go to New York and then batch shipped on to Canada's headquarters for your refund to be started and why it takes 30 days to see your money back.

My take in this all is - companies look/hope to make 10's of Millions of Dollars before their caught for wrong doing, and as such then only face a small % loss to fines and restitution and their attorney costs. So they still hide some assets and really end up in the green when all is said and done. It's grown to be the business model of the age we live in.

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I'm going to do that as one means, I just want to have other backups pulled also by other means.

Some backups I've read only pulls 6-8 partitions and it was said android can have 20+ partitions to it's total. How to get them all (root or no root).

Parted, Gparted or something along these lines then?

Not all partitions are mounted or always mounted and some only mounted when in use, believe me when I say I don't know, but have read a lot to try and then in understanding it all. Green as Grass here. . .

:)
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
It's there but TextNow blocks it from the server side

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Totally agree with you. TextNow does keep your chat history so be careful about what you say. As [MENTION=7703024]InterfaceNode[/MENTION] said, partition backups everything so selecting everything means you're backing up everything.

PS: sorry what I said I wasn't in a good mood yesterday
[Moto G 2015 General] monogwai:
Woah there, fella: that's a mighty big logical leap you're taking there. I used to work tech support for a decently sized organization... A statement such as the bracketed one above isn't nearly the cause for alarm you think it is. They do make note of things as far as your support experiences are concerned, but that's just a brief synopsis of what's been going on and what's been tried. They certainly aren't storing every last detail of this, that, and the other. The size of all that data would grow exponentially each day... Specially with these bootleg-ass jokers. Avoid the 'noid, man. :)
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
They do save every bit because they brought up and posed the exact text I typed from a few days ago
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
partition backup and restore grants you access to every single partition...think its like 42 in total
[Moto G 2015 General] monogwai:
They sure don't seem to know very much of my history when I wind up having to call. Which brings me to a realization-- you said 'typed', so I guess you mean the online chat support? They probably do have that verbatim. When a person does live phone support, it's somewhat difficult to log good notes while simeultaneously holding conversation as though you aren't. And your manager isn't cool with you coming off call and logging afterwards. At least, they weren't at IBM.
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
That's alright I'm cool - it passed without notice and I'm :cool:

I'm just not wanting to give away the partitions with the /pds, /hob, /cid and /dhob partitions, which contain device identifiers such as mac address, MEID, IMEI and ESN. I'll be keeping this phone and that's not a good ideal to me in letting them go beyond my control. Yes a factory reset takes my stuff off but these always stay, that's mostly the partitions I'm wanting to pull and keep, though I don't know if the Partitions Backup & Restore app does these too.

I'd like to try this-

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2450045

then I see there's a scrip - for if you've got a Linux machine available, and try out my tool Adebar mentioned in my answer, you will be surprised of what you've missed. I count 13 partitions on my P880, for example, and have seen devices with ~20 partitions as well. Most of those partitions are not mounted in "operation mode", the best known candidate being /recovery. stackoverflow answer.

I tried to post links using the toolbar here but got some security token thingy from xda.

So I had 3 links and I'm not sure which set off the token - I lost all I had typed here before.

I see this is interesting "Review of Android Partition Layout" by Android News of Costa Rica.

While the specifications for a mobile device tell us about the size of internal storage, they do not tell us how the internal storage is partitioned. Consequently, the scope of this article is limited to internal storage.

all-things-android[dot]com/content/review-android-partition-layout---------- Post added at 04:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:30 PM ----------

That's good to know and thanks for sharing :)---------- Post added at 04:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:36 PM ----------

Sorry if you seen this as a whole round up comment to all tech/customer support.

I assure you it wasn't meant that way and only being of TextNow specific.

Then again as much time as I've spent there reading the % I'd seen of the linking and the response was enough to bring up the bracketed quote. Yes they know and could be why you can't get them on the phone much - as this would leave little notes and more input typing, but the chat and community comments they can bank easy, if not bookmark to your account. As they make the connections because you have to be logged in to do either - I'm pretty sure and anything account wise they direct you to call or chat, but everyone there in the comments grips about hold times and not getting through at all their scripted sorry but we have added people to our call lines or you can set up a time for us to call you back - 60% of most pages or total comments deals with how bad their customer support is :eek:

Again my post was not meant to be industry wide and dealing with the public isn't easy when their expectations are more than average :).
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Yes you should be able to keep those partitions as it shouldn't be info we'll need. PARITION backup and restore works with the phone on but make sure the phone is rooted. Backups are saved as .Tar.Gz and that should be enough. Backups are stored in your internal storage called Partitions-Backups. Just uploading that whole folder is fine. I wont need your userdata partition, cache, and those partitions you mentioned above so Everything else would be great.

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PM me the download link :)
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
When I get it off the phone I'll send you specific things you'll need - if you can call them out - I'll have to mount or in someway be able to see what I'm sending as I won't send a batch of something I can't check. As I said I'm still reading about this and understanding and I'm not in this much of a big hurry. Sorry if you are.

Would this be something your interested in?

Quote - All other devices with unlocked bootloaders can use Fastboot commands to restore their backups, and the preferred format here is "Raw partition image."

OSFMount will handle raw.img on windows - as will PowerISO.

http://www.osforensics.com/tools/mount-disk-images.html

A "Tar archive" I can use in WinRAR to see it. But that is for Sams and with Odin.

I'm not in to sending a whole partition, but the blocks you think you need or the broken down smallest parts to get to you going.

I want this to be a learning experience for myself so as you want something - I in turn do to, the knowledge. Review my PM's it's where I've been coming from all a long.

I have found that a 64G SDCard works on this Moto G3 even though it's called for 32G. The backup will go here off the internals of the 4+GiGs left open on it.

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/accessories/64-gb-memory-card-support-t3179195

Here is something the principle may be likewise interesting-

"How to unlock CDMA Modem / Dongle for all sim networks" also it mentions " I have already mentioned how you can unlock 3G dongle for any network but that tutorial was for only GSM SIM supported data cards." and gives a link there for GSM.

http://www.trickolla.com/2014/03/how-to-unlock-cdma-modem-dongle-for-all.html

I'll be in here tomorrow gotta read now :)
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
Anything works. I'm Not in a hurry but it would be cool to have something to work with.
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
You can also back up the partition (s) as .IMG files so if need be you can flash (the ones that will allow you to flash) via fastboot ..But the app also allows you to restore partition (s) from .IMG files ..Idk I personally think that . IMG files are more convenient
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
.Tar.gz are way smaller files to download and upload. That's why
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
[MENTION=7866439]hammmersmashface[/MENTION] I do think we speak of the same as I said 'raw" and your reference of "img" being the same as by this pic. :)

[MENTION=7902606]purplefruity[/MENTION]

Ok the .Tar.gz I realized what you meant in saying this format and I could WinRAR any other pulled format for compression in that of a file / folder to make it smaller, but this deals with much more then I'm thinking you need in just altering a value that's needed and not to flashing a whole partition then - which I agree would be much easier to do the latter. Of my reasons I will go into this on a file/folder or even supply a simple value that in the case may be the only thing really needed.

Then I'm thinking the answer lies here with these instruction (Guide) to "Making Dump Files Out of Android Device Partitions"

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2450045

In the "Optional: Read Partition Image" it states this "After dumping an image from android partition, you can mount it to extract a particular file for sharing".

This would be of a Pin Point nature and get us to what I'd like to do and then give to you, and as in not giving a whole backup from "Partitions Backup & Restore".

Then you being Versed (as I believe you are) to pin point what mounting point for the partition which holds the information needed of the file or just value to change..

Note: If the partition is formatted as ext3/4 then the dumped partition will have .img as an extension.

After dumping an image from android partition, I can mount it to extract a particular file(s) for sharing with you or just the value needed.

Credit to : [MENTION=369057]majdinj[/MENTION] - for putting this in an understandable method that even a Green as Grass person as myself can understand an follow :good:
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
TextNow doesn't block anything server side, in actuality they have no control over the "real" phone number; this is actually handled by Sprint.

When they sell you the phone, they are HOLDING the "Sprint" account information to it; and they have already disabled SMS outgoing on this account.

The big hint I'll give you is that you need to install Cyanogen or another ROM onto your phone to give yourself access in full to the native number; then go to an actual Sprint store and say you're actually using Sprint prepaid; Sprint has the ability to remove this lock.

If you talk to Sprint on the phone they may not be willing to comply; but if you go up to them in person you will be able to get results.

However when you go to the Sprint store you should also try to buy a thing of 'medium' value as well; to give them incentive to solve your bigger problem of unlocking SMS functionality for you.

People are like animals; if you go just to get this done there will spiritually be "nothing in it" for the people working; if you are a customer trying to buy a physical thing and that purchase depends on getting SMS unlocked you would be surprised at how compliant these people get.

The hack for unlimited 4G has to do with the APNs you use; as you can imagine a corrupt company like TextNOW is very greedy and some of their APNs do NOT have metering; I assume these are the access points used by folks who work for the company or are favored by them.

It's also possible to spoof your 'real number' and a few other details to ignore 4G limitation but I really shouldn't be talking a lot on this subject; but because they have such little control it's easy to bone them
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
To understand how they're able to mess around with fraud flagging, you need to understand Credit Card protocols.

www.uquid.com has a VCC that includes address encoding; most VCC have no address encoded so in cases like this they know they can screw you over.

Since the VCC literally has no address bound to it; there is no way that you can prove anything so they can easily shoot you down here; It's important to use something that has a bound address even if the address is fraudulent; they're not going to risk screwing around with a VCC that has a digital footprint that is indistinguishable from a physical card.

They're literally not worth speaking to at all.

Why talk to the employee when you can go directly to the manager anyway? It's more productive to talk to Sprint in person, I feel... The important thing to understand is TextNow is trying to screw you right off the rip; so they're not going to be able to resolve anything and will be outright unwilling to do that.

It's "New" under Canadian law, they're very smart to be operating barely outside of US borders but this is a two way street; as they can't do anything about people like me for example

They're actually collecting a database of customers which they will sell for massive profit at a later point; as it's allowed under Canadian law, LOL.

This is a variation of the age old scam where a forum owner says "We were hacked LOL" but what they mean is "I sold the database to the forum for money; hackers want it so they can use the forum PWs to try to access your other credentials"

Btw their stock ROM records your SMS contents in it's entirety; the app they use for 'stock' devices doesn't show Ads but still aggregates this data.

If you use the free "textnow" app you can notice that it will target ads tailored to what you talk about; since I use the phone mostly for drugs my ads are related to Marijuana; things like this non-stop which made me chuckle a bit

YEAH I am a little shady but so isn't TextNOW; you run a shady business and you attract shady people that's life, that's how the world works
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
PS: The EFS partition is really important; the most important thing would be the EFS partition off an unlocked device..
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
[IMG="lol"]http://i.imgur.com/DW9GVMU.jpg[/IMG]

sue me 4 it TextNow

You guys can find me at 7F

[IMG="ok"]http://i.imgur.com/u1CIr60.jpg[/IMG]
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
What do you mean

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What does the efs contain?
[Moto G 2015 General] hammmersmashface:
in short...everything

Esn,imei,imsi,min,dir num, all your NAM info, PRL info, location history,call history,msl number,spc number ..provisoning information...etc,etc
[Moto G 2015 General] purplefruity:
So you think that device unlocking will be stored in the EFS partition?
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
It is, but likely we're using EFIv2 so... It'll take a little researching
[Moto G 2015 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
Good Insights - in-depth facts / touche InterfaceNode

My bank debit card has been in use from around 2009 and same address as well. It was flagged but yet a Gift Card just purchased wasn't. Which could of been moreorless anonymous and a PO Box used for shipping, if nothing more making it hard to get any info. of the buyer (true yes or no). Then would it boil down to the delivery address zip, email account signed up with, IP address when logged in, etc. . . to a geolocation of the buyer? Would like to know more about uquid.com VCC address encoding spoke of and the practical experience there from your perspective. :good:

In person in a Sprint store they still want the basics of the account info. so they know you are the account holder, so how is anyone going to provide that info. when it's all on TextNow side and we'll never know, soon the Sprint manager is questioning leading to suspecting/finding out your just with one of Sprint's MVNO not Sprint directly. I can see in your experienced here , but not any of us are, how do you give last 4 card-SSN, billing address, account name, even phone # used on the Sprint TextNow account?

We are dealing with TextNow Wireless which is listed as 300 Brannan Street Suite 201, San Francisco, CA 94107. All returns go to ENFLICK INC. UNIT 261, 973 CENTER ST., LEWISTON NY 14092. Two US State side business and would fall under the authority of Sprint USA, FCC, FTC, and any states Attorney General of a TextNow customers billing address, and then any US Court filing of a Class Action Suite wouldn't you agree, or have I missed something here to understand.

Still it's fraud as not being NEW when listed that way, besides TextNow even possibly messed with the original MEID of these phones cause of the fact being that sticker tag of the MEID under the back cover that says TextNow on it and covering up the original device factory one. a lot of facts to consider here in the case of advertising fraud and the like.

Again it's TextNow Wireless that has two US State side business addresses CA. 94107 and NY. 14092 even though it's a Canada based Headquartered business they still are doing business in the US under the US laws and authority and I've even seen them state the fact in their community that they don't offer phone service in Canada yet although being headquartered there. So it's under what ever privacy laws the US offers for customers of US ISP Telecomm giants. Which the FCC has stiffened these rules for ISP's "FCC Adopts New Privacy Rule Limiting What ISPs Can Do With Your Personal Data"

[MENTION=7703024]InterfaceNode[/MENTION] Thanks for your insights ;)

PS: I took your words out of some context but did only to shorten and used most pertinent to address I didn't change any of your words just outtakes. :)
[Moto G 2015 General] MotoJunkie01:
Great points. I would further like to add that it can be no coincidence that every device TextNow offers (whether new or refurbished) are the exact same models previously retailed by Walmart under Virgin Mobile's Data Done Right plan. And anybody that knows anything about Data Done Right knows that the devices were discontinued due to a major loophole allowing the customer free unlimited data......literally. The only exception to this I've seen is TextNow's Moto G (1st Gen), which I do not believe Data Done Right used. Coincidence? The Moto E LTE, Moto G3, Galaxy S3, S4 S5, LG Volte, LG Tribute 2, etc etc were all Data Done Right models.
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
You're not wrong, I mean his is really a tough situation because of their presence in multiple jurisdictions though
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
You're correct............ These are the Virgin Mobile models.

They are in actuality; NOT Sprint.

Go ahead and for example flash CyanogenMod w/out APNs and *#*#4636#*#* and change to CDMA/LTE.

You'll notice it tracks 'Virgin' and not Sprint.

You are not incorrect, so....

These are the data-done-right models
[Moto G 2015 General] MotoJunkie01:
I strongly suspect TextNow was aware of the Data Done Right devices and simply built a company on the legality of the Data loophole. It's genius actually. I think they are doing nothing more than selling you Virgin Mobile data on the Data Done Right loophole. I will purchase a Bring Your Own Phone SIM and test the theory. If I place that SIM in a DDR device modified with the loophole, and it connects to the network, our Virgin Mobile theory is correct. Damn why didn't I do that ?? Lol
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
You could always modify your TextNOW device and try to exploit it that way
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
Do you have the 8916 modem firmware needed to do this as well as the OS build needed to activate under that method?

I am not familiar with the loop for DataDoneRight at all, but am willing to give it a shot as I have two of these devices onhand.

One has received activation, the other hasn't been activated at all.

In theory either should be able to access Virgins 4G I think so it shouldn't matter a whole lot if it is active or not
[Moto G 2015 General] InterfaceNode:
Also since TextNOW stock ROM has ## commands Cyanogen doesn't have, it feels it would be more feasible to just modify the stock ROM with our APN and SPN configurations under Data Done Right, rather than to flash **** for another device even if it is basically 'identical'