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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] jonnyd100:
This doesn't look like a wide scale release in any way. It seems like they are releasing country by country more than be region.

Btw UK is still in the continent of Europe, it's in western Europe. We are also still in the European union as well but its not like as soon as we leave they're going to strap rocket to our country and send us over to America.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Post about it on Lenovo forums as well. You received Nougat through OTA, so they'll talk to you.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
I really hope they will fix stuttering, otherwise I'll regret buying this phone for a very long time.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] heisert:
Just got a second device in Hands = still no stutters

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
News of further French and German updates seems to have quietened and I wonder whether the rollout has been slowed (or halted.)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] SamsungAdmire:
My bets: They're preparing for the release of retgb and retus rollout (and anywhere else it hasn't gotten it yet)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] drummper:
I have a question... If I install a RETBR image on a ATTMX Phone will I'll be available to receive otas?? Or, I will have to update manually?

Thank You
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] noisyriver:
I am on RETEU nougat since one week (ADB sideloaded the patch from the other thread on my RETEU XT 1635-02 device over last december patch). Coming from a rooted phone with Xposed installed I first flashed the original RETEU firmware to ged rid of all mods and the TWRP. Then I let it install all security updates (three I guess) and deleted all Root or Xposed related apps. My experiences:

- I still have all my apps and data, lost nothing except the apps that needed Root or Xposed of course

- No change in perfomance, the device is still buttery smooth

- stock nougat battery performance is the same as MM modded with greenify: 3-4 days with moderate use or more than 10 hours SOT and 2 days with heavy use

- Still no need to root or mod anything, Nougat is the first Adroid ever which gives me all I need out of the box. I even found a solution for immersive mode for all apps without root (was described on XDA some days ago)

I had sometimes slight performance issues with MM. After a reboot they were gone for some weeks. Until now I don't have similar issues with nougat. Very likely it was some Xposed or Root modification giving me those issues.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Chiinau:
Just got nougat on my MZP reteu France .. I will install it now
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Can you please confirm that this also fixes the low notification issue? Thanks.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute123456:
yes and yes and..... yes, 7.0 fixed notifications sound

MZP 4G/LTE
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mramendola:
in theory when they launch the ota retus?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
It was answered dozens of times. Use search!

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I wonder why some of us do get stuttering and some don't.

Or maybe all us got it, but not everyone can notice it.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
In theory... March. But no confirmation of exactly when or if.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
I believe it is a result of sideloading what is not your carrier's authorized OTA.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
That's a load of crap. Others who sideloaded it reports no such issues and some of those who didn't sideloaded do report them.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
Because you're the lucky one or moto specifically sent out an ota that was designed to reek havoc only on your device? Conspiracy theory:)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Nevermind.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
Really? I know you never said that but I believe it's a conspiracy. Wait it was the North Koreans! Or me! Or Lenovo or Apple.

It happens buddy and like I said earlier don't jump and flash the first ota, it's always full of bugs not only that but there could also be a mismatch on the baseband that's causing you issues. Never flash anything unless you have a back up plan. You flashed and now unfortunately, you're suffering the consequences.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
You dish crap all often. Look who is calling it crap.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Nevermind.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
OK buddy, maybe you should take a good look at yourself . Bye and I'm outta here.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Sorry bruh, I just realized you meant it as a joke. That 12 hours long night shift hit me harder than anticipated.

My apologies.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
Well we all have tough days! Apology accepted.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Damn, nothing for reteu.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] geetesh.kumbhare:
Yesterday moto released update for September security patch in india. Today they released Brazilian with December security patch. Why the don't release equal updates for globally.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I've also just spoken to someone who has the December security patch who says it absolutely hasn't fixed his low notification issue, so now I'm just bemused!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] yumms:
I'm on RETUS and still on August security patch! What the crap Moto.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] felipevsw:
I've just received the Dec patch (RETBR channel) and the notifications are much louder for me now.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
That's not Nougat though
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I'm starting to wonder whether the Z Play will ever get Nougat. Initially, I thought the delay would mean we got 7.1, but now I think we'll just get 7.0 at some indeterminate point in the future, especially those of us who are unlocked (which used to mean we got updates faster!) And as for the notification fix - I'm not holding my breath. Why does it take so long?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] FreedFromDeath:
Just be patient. There's newer phones that will never get anything. Our Z Play Will definitely get the update, since Moto advertised it on their update plans.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mhp1995:
I dont understand why there is no development work for our phone... I visit XDA everyday but i see no activity going on here... We dont even have a proper way to root our phones and flashing the stock rom gives null IMEI error...I mean we dont even have a way to backup our phones, IMEI etc.... I just ordered the phone yesterday from Amazon...It scares the **** outta me to see the forum so empty on XDA... What do you guys think, will we get dev support or is it going to be like this only...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
The Chinese TWRP allows you to root as well you can backup your IMEI.

We probably won't see a huge amount of development as this phone comes with pure Android .

Mods won't work with custom ROMs too.

Just keep a copy of your firmware as a back up.

Flash xposed to get the customizations you want and substratum to theme your apks and you're basically running a custom ROM anyways.

The only exclusion is no smartbar from dirty unicorns rom
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
RETUS just received a November 1st security update. Better than nothing, I guess.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] shantusingh:
hope we get the nougat update this month at least... I'm waiting as well :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] jayb222:
The phone is just that good! Not much reason to root phones anymore. It is to be mostly to improve speed or battery life. Not a problem on here at all.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
Exactly this. Motos used to have tons of active devs, but once they started offering unlocked bootloaders and features like active display and vice recognition, that all sort of died off. I remember having a few cm Roms for the first gen Moto X, but almost nobody used them because stock was so damn good.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
I agree that there's not much need for development here, but it would be nice to know someone was interested in pushing the limits of the device, even if only for the sake of experimenting.

Fwiw, the dev community on the Moto E 2015 is still quite active - maybe partially because the US versions got left behind in lollipop stock.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] scottdanpor:
Yeah I just got this phone, first time I'm not rooting one. I'll keep it unrooted till nougat drops at least, but I'm not missing root on it really. Maybe for a bit of debloat and running Cerberus, but it works really well as is.

Debloated stock roms are the only thing I flash nowadays, got no patience for AOSP and CM bug testing :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
The Motorola website now advertises Nougat being released for the Z Play. Go to the Z Play page, under specs and OS it says Upgradeable to Android Nougat
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Upgradable where, on Mars?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] graphitenexus:
I'd guess the OTA will be coming soon
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
Did I mention how much I hate that word?

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] leoiden:
this does not apply to us version
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] OrBy:
FYI

Rogers Canada RCICA SW channel 7.0 update notification popped up on my phone this morning.

Wont have a chance to unroot and flash it till tonight.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
We can be pretty sure that the rest of Reteu will get it from tomorrow morning, because I'm away from wifi for four days starting tomorrow morning.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coyotefiveoh:
Just got update notification. Koodo Canada. Tkpca channel
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Hopefully that Nougat goodness will trickle down to us on RETUS
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] scottdanpor:
Nothing yet here on Koodo Canada, I'll check tonight over wifi though. Thx for the heads up :good:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coyotefiveoh:
Damn that sucks. Just got it this morning when I wasn't on wifi. Was driving at the time. I'm in BC Vancouver Island. Downloaded and installed. Working great so far!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] scottdanpor:
Does an OTA update count towards our data plan? I just have 1GB.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coyotefiveoh:
Only if you choose to download over data... The OTA notification may take a little but prob not alot... The download is around 900mb tho.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] stejc:
Just got the update on a RETGB model in the UK (3 mobile).
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I'm pleased for you, but also irritated that it hasn't yet been released for the rest of reteu. :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Anushan:
Also just got the Nougat update in the UK for my retgb device
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
On my retgb the "system update" doesn't work since 1 hour...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Hitachy:
Try rebooting your phone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
...without the sim.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute123456:
same problem, touch only one and wait

MZP 4G/LTE
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Anushan:
Yeah this is what happened to me after I checked for update it didnt work for like 5/10 mins then I got the notification to update so you should get it soon hopefully
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brun3llo:
Just got it [emoji1]

Retgb on Italian sim and wifi
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Anushan:
Awesome :good: Its running really smooth so far. Hopefully battery life is still amazing!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] digweed4me:
just got the nougat update here in dallas , tx
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Low notifications fixed?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Anushan:
Sorry I always have my phone in vibrate mode so I have never experienced that bug but someone earlier in the thread who received the ota in France confirmed that it was fixed
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
On RETUS or another channel?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] digweed4me:
Retgb here in Dallas tx
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tute123456:
RETGB downloading 7.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 880,4mb
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Can we please just keep on track and not get diverted?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
But my biggest grip is not with the OTA itself. This can be fixed. No, the problem is with single most terrible support for phone I have ever seen in my life. Moto phones have near stock Android. Combined with how were updates handled under Google's ownership, Nougat rollout is unspeakably pathetic. Not only they failed to start global rollout even after 7 months from Nougat's release, but they will start it with the same bugs and glitches that have been on retin units since February. Sony, HTC and Samsung halted upgrade because of bugs. But Lenovo? Nah! Who cares about that stuff, right?

The bottom line is this is NOT the phone I bought in December and as sure as hell NOT the Nougat I had on my Nexus 5X since its release.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] digweed4me:
Looks snappier than marshmallow and smaller DPI change is amazing and looks like speaker got little bit louder too loving nougat already
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
So sell it and get OP3T or something.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] digweed4me:
Battery looks little bit better than mmhttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58b8b8ff7271c/Screenshot_20170302-182517.png?

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58b8b92632b5c/Screenshot_20170302-182512.png?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
The thing is, hardware wise this phone is unmatched by anything currently on the market. OP3T is nice, sure, but I don't want phone with capacitive buttons in 2017 and their take on Android is ugly for me. Samsung is garbage, HTC is half dead and Sony's new Xperia line is ugly as hell. The only phone I would buy is Pixel, but I don't have 1k of Euro laying around, nor am I willing to spend it on a freaking phone.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
So basically every affordable option sucks, except the MZP sucks a little less because hardware?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
MZP on its own doesn't sux. With Marshmallow on board it was the best phone I ever had. I was so damn happy that I slept with it. Now it feels like cheap Chinese crap. It hurts, man. You have no idea how much it hurts.

And even though I'm not the only with performance issues, Lenovo didn't even acknowledge it yet.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] scottdanpor:
I know you don't want to do it, but if it will make your phone feel like a good phone again, I would totally unlock that bootloader and get a stock based rom on there. I understand why you don't want to, but if you're careful with your phone I don't think you have much to worry about. It might be worth it just to enjoy it again.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Terepin:
But this wouldn't change anything. The OTA for reteu has the same issues as every other OTA. And there is also a way how to progress with further updates without unlocking bootloader. I just need to find incremental update for retbr that was allegedly released. Couldn't find it anywhere so far.

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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Caldair:
Apologies in advance for an off topic, and generally useless post, but I've really got nothing to occupy my time while I wait to get my OTA.

Please take this as a public service announcement. See here:

I really just can't take any more, and I'm mad at myself now for not doing this a couple of weeks ago when I first thought I should.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * *

Let's keep the comments RESPECTFUL, ON TOPIC, and NOT insulting or rude.

Browse the last few pages and you'll see the result of continually violating the rules.

If a user gets out of line, simply REPORT them, and let the Moderation staff handle it. Retaliating, or engaging the user will likely put YOU in violation as well.

Enough about that. Let's get back to Moto Z Play :D

Thanks for your cooperation.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] OrBy:
Well I got home and reflashed sparschunks to get back to stock, let it install all the OTA's to get me back to 6.0.1 Dec 1st security patch level - and now it says I am up to date?!!? Not giving me the 7.0 update anymore... Has anyone grabbed the 7.0 OTA update file for RCICA software channel or have any other suggestions?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
OrBy, just wait some days :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mramendola:
and retus????? whats going on?????
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Impatience is what's going on.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] mramendola:
yes, a lot
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
I don't think the US G4 got Nougat yet and they've been pushing out the G4 Nougat update to the rest of the world for months!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] timster01:
So, I sideloaded Blur_Version.24.231.19.addison.retail.en.US.zip from https://xdaforums.com/moto-z-play/how-to/moto-z-play-reteu-firmware-otas-t3557917 to my Koodo Moto Z Play yesterday. Will I get future updates OTA or will I have to sideload those aswell?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Caldair:
I'm pretty sure you will not get future OTA updates. Your software channel will have a different software version, and when a future update would look at your installed version it will see something different than what it is looking for.

This is based on what I've read, not personal experience, but it makes sense, since all the official OTAs are from one specific version to the next one in line.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] pablore79:
Hi! For the retar (Argentina) channel, when the update arrives? Thanks!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
Didn't you read the xda rules? Never ask for an ETA!

disclaimer: :p
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] AlvaroSch:
I still without getting nougat update with the US firmware
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
Refers to a member asking a Dev about the next update of His ROM, NOT about asking members about how soon a Manufacturer or Carrier updates a firmware.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] tag68:
Sorry to be misunderstood. It should be a joke, that's why I wrote that disclaimer.

As apologize I tell what I remember to be the situation. I read some time ago about plans in USA. If I remember correctly, Verizon wants to push its update before the free devices gets it, so us will be late. In other countries I don't remember having seen such constraints, so you may be lucky or not. Any date which was told to be planned was wrong. It should be January until first week of February, where it was told be be May (edit: or was it March?). This was more off against the real date, first deployment didn't take that long anymore.

So conclusion is: if you hear about a date, it may be more confusing than helpful. The update arrives when it arrives. It is allowed to ask for the date, but doesn't really make sense. If information is known, it gets posted in this thread anyway, so search this thread if you want to know what is stated to be known.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RockinAmigo14:
people on retus who have gotten the 7.0 update...who's your provider? i'm sitting on the december security patch and 6.0.1 from at&t
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
Att sells the play?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RockinAmigo14:
bought it unlocked on amazon, activated on at&t (technically an at&t mvno)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
I'm on reteu in the US. Still nothing.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
I'm on reteu in the UK and there's nothing happening here either. I'm wondering whether they've stopped the reteu download for some reason, as it landed in Germany a couple of weeks back. :confused:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
Spain and France have also received it if I can remember correctly. Yea I'm a little shocked as well as it was hitting our channel 2 weeks ago
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
No one On RETUS has gotten it yet. On the November security patch, T-mobile.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lex.proprietario:
It's just arrived Nougat for my MZP Reteu in Italy! :D
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] ReOmbra:
npn25.137-24-1
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lex.proprietario:
Yes!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kenbrownstone:
Getting 7.0 update now on Verizon MOTO ZPlay Droid
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Hopefully the retail version is next.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] geomun:
Should I or shouldn't I? Retail US version. Verizon.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
Wait

Dash 1 Me too
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] IncendiaryPyro:
I sideloaded NPN25.137-15-2 recently. Probably not the best idea...lol. Is there any way to get on NPN25.137-24-1, or am I SOL?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kenbrownstone:
Well the Verizon update screwed the data and WiFi on my phone.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] neandertaler19:
Did you do a wipe yet?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] aviwdoowks:
Did you wipe? Moto says you must.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] parusia:
I just received the nougat update. Retus channel here in Houston Texas.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Did you factory reset the phone, clearing all data?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brinox:
Same for me, Retus, but can't download until I get into the office with wifi. Wondering if I should hold off with the update anyway! :confused:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] parusia:
So far everything seems to be working fine here.

Is probably a placebo but the phone feels a lot faster than before.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Which carrier are you guys on? I'm on T-Mobile and I'm showing nothing for retus
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] parusia:
I'm on T-Mobile too, but the carrier doesn't matter. Connect your phone to WiFi, that is what I did last night I left it connected to WiFi because I was downloading some movies from Showbox, and I forgot to switched back to LTE. This morning when I woke up the notification of system upgrade was there.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
So nothing. Then again, my last update didn't hit until mid afternoon and I had checked in the morning. I waited this long, I can wait a few more hours... Hopefully!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] brinox:
I ended up updating this morning and everything appears to have completed successfully without a problem. Wi-Fi appears to have saved, and my SD card isn't corrupted or wiped. :good:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bobdelt:
anyone save the OTA for retus?
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] bigbamboo5:
Reteu seems to have stopped after Germany, Spain, Italy and France. I'm not holding my breath for a British ota this week.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] lozada81:
Parches Ota

Here :https://xdaforums.com/moto-z-play/how-to/moto-z-play-reteu-firmware-otas-t3557917
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] daorgest:
RETUS channel just got a nougat update today look out for it :D
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
Simple Mobile(T-Mobile mvno) on reteu in the US. Nothing yet
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] rile1564:
Been looking all morning. I am don't have it. I'm completely stock, never rooted. Tried on WiFi and T-mobile data. So nothing. Damn you, Pennsylvania. Why can't you be more like Texas!