yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
Sounds good. I cannot dowload from megaupload (all slots for czech rep are full all the time), so if you put it on ftp or my mail adress mzabsky.at.gmail.com, I would try it. I had a look at the wing keyboard and it has 4 or 5 special character FN keys changed. Do you think that the rom would cause my keyboard to behave like wings one? I hope no, it would be pretty confusing - the changes include often used characters like brackets, equation sign or question mark.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I'll see about setting up a mirror. Just a little busy with the holidays right now. I'll try tomorrow, though.

As far as the keyboard, yes, it would cause your keyboard to behave like the wings. I know what the physical differences are, but I do not know how to map them on the device itself, unfortunately.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] wingman_214:
ivan, did you remove the ms office??

notes and office are directly linked. i believe that dutty over in the kaiser forums has a fixed version.

you might want to check that out.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I could kiss you!! You're right. It works on all the builds that have Office in them!!

EDIT: Do you have a link to that fix (that hopefully will allow Notes to work without Office?) Because I can't find it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] wingman_214:
send him a pm,

im not rocking one of his awsome roms at this moment so i am not sure.

checkout the site where his roms are hosted http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/

even if i am wrong about the fix you could use ms office as filler to get the os.nb up to the right size

ps: if you need cooking advice ask duttythroy he is the best.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] chris30_2001:
Okay, Im gonna just go ahead and ask a stupid question.... Whats the difference between the blue pad and the clean rom??? Im confused about the part where you said flash the blue pad and then the clean rom????

Thanks in advance!
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
I guess the keyboard setup is hidden in one single file. Maybe comparing two extracted roms of herald and wing could help in this case.

It should be possible to remap the keyboard back with AEKMap though.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
The BluePad has added applications. The Clean ROM is just that, clean. When you flash with Aserg's way, the partitions aren't reformatted and so storage space isn't expanded past the default RUU size. If you format the phone with BluePad first, then you'll have more free storage space.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I know, but comparing anything to the WING ROM is hard because of all the crap that Tmobile put into it. I'll check out that AEKMap, though. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I uploaded a mirror. I didn't realize I hadn't compressed the OS.NB file, so I did for the mirror.

I need some feedback guys. What do you like? What do you not like? (Not what you want added, this is a clean ROM. I will be making other ROMs later, though...) Do you guys want me to turn everything in the clean ROM into modules instead of files? Do you think it's fast enough? Too slow? Did TouchIT do something better?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
I forgot to say, that RS is no better than megaupload, it drops connection pretty often, so Im unable to download any files bigger than several MB from it :(
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Give me a mirror to upload it to and I'll uploaded it again. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] chris30_2001:
Okay, I flashed blue pad and was really happy to see all the ram, but the camera app doesnt work, no file explorer, cant customize the today screen........did I do something wrong?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] agee:
i think its a good _clean_ rom. it could always be faster, but the 200mhz cpu on the wing/herald pretty much limits everything.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Everything works here. Anyone else having this same problem? I suggest you reflash it again and see if the problem persists. If it does, we'll work from there.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
The put it on GigaSize.com, it is usually okay with me. Thank you
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Thanks... I think. lol

Try overclocking the CPU a little. If you play with it for a while, it starts to cache stuff and run much faster.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] chris30_2001:
Reflashed and looks like its working now!
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Awesome! Let me know if you run into any other problems or see any room for improvements! Also, I need a report of the speed from someone... anyone. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Ok, I got the GigaSize mirrors running.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] pabajo:
Hey guys Im a little bit confused about the rom.....Whats the difference about

Blue pad

Clean Rom

and the last one released os.nb....
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
The OS.nb is the same thing as the clean ROM. The BluePad just has more things added to it and is in an easier to flash format.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] pabajo:
Ok thnk you....So which one you personaly recomend...
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
The BluePad, unless you want/need a stripped ROM to cook your own ROM with. I'll be working on a better ROM, soon. For now, for ease's sake, try the BluePad.

I'll also be updating my first post to clear things up a little bit. It's a bit of a mess because I kept editing it over and over during the process of making the ROM.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] agee:
yeah, i'm at 260 now. its an improvement, but its not 400
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] chris30_2001:
Have you played with the page pool????

I'll take 273 and 6 mb pagepool with awesome battery life over a supercharged processor any day
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] nightilusion:
hey man this is sounds like its going to be a great rom. i knw hw to cook rooms bt im a beginner and i am still nt sure how to find the oem packages of the things i like to be in my clean rom??!! i know i cn extract the ones i liked from the touch-it wing 2.3 bt i dnt knw if i am gonna mess something up and brick my phone i think its too risky wt i like to be in the rom dunno maybe it wont sound such a clean rom after my suggestions bt i hope u think about it ?

wt i would love in your clean rom is kinda of a combination of the cool stuff in touch-it 2.3 and tht i think are interesting

1-the comm-manager in touch it 2.3

2-htc album (the fixed orientation from touch-it 2.3)

3-htc x-button

maybe we would get free ram without batterstatus bt the only thing i liked about it was the over clocking option bt hw abt adding just omap tht would be better right ?

and i mean some people like opera mini 4 so hw abt a nice java midlet

and you explained hw u been cleaning registries and cleaning up some other stuff from the rom hopefully this would be the fastest and most free space rom we will get

this is only my personal opinion ?? do u think this will work ?!!
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
At the time being, this ROM will remain stripped and will only be getting less and less in it. My aim is to have the fastest, most stable, cleanest ROM ever. I will be making other separate ROMs that will be no-none-sense but filled with the apps that people want. I'll also be releasing a simple kitchen that you'll be able to just choose from over 300 different packages by checking on the ones that you want and then just pressing a button.

Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
Im just trying to flash the rom, but I have a proble. The dos window utility makes the screen of my defice glow white, but the RUU inthe next step requires the device to be connected through AS. If I SR the device, the the RUU throws an error that the image is corrupted :(

EDIT: It seems it reconnects after a while, but still, always after 3 percent are flashed, it terminates and tells that the image file is corrupted
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
Alright, I finally to make it work

My initial thoughts:

- the huge storage is really nice, the program memory was a slight disappointment for me though - I have less than 20 MB after SR and only running oxios. Only PocketBreeze and Mobile Shell running. I expected a bit more

- everything is running smoothly, the ROM seem to be pretty fast

- the keyboard really slightly messed up. I will play around with aekmap and upload the result if I was successful.

- I didn't notice any problems with applications yet, both notes and camera are okay. Only AS was a bit confused, but after I reset the PC it is fine.

What is Network Manager, I didn't have it in my previous rom (wm6 herald stock)?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I'm getting about 27-28mb free. I'm not sure why you're getting such a small amount. Try removing those programs and seeing how much memory you get first. If it's still not much, reflash. Make sure you test the memory after closing all programs, btw. If you have programs open WHILE you're checking the memory, then you WILL have less free memory.

Good to hear the ROM is running fast.

This is a Wing ROM. If you're using it on a Herald, the keyboard layout will be different. This is noted in the first post.

The network wizard sets up your settings for GPRS/EDGE and MMS automatically for your particular provider.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Ryohara:
Flashing it now. Can't wait for your EBO though.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
That's strange. Are you flashing the BluePad? Or are you making an NBH out of my os.nb?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] mahd-leb:
thats cool man bt just one question are you going to have the touch-it comm-manager and htc album in the final clean rom?are you thinking about ? i dnt care abt the apps cos u cn install them your self
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
I just made hard reset (I hate manual registry adjustments) and checked the memory: 19.95 MB with absolutely clean OS (I just created the partnership with my PC). Maybe there is some stuff Herlad has and wing not. Or...are you sure the same page pool setting applies to Herald as well as to Wing? (it is just an ide,a, I don't know much about this)

Btw, merry christmas
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] papamopps:
active sync cost you 5mb ram!!!

just a hint
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
The task man tells it takes 250 k ;)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] agee:
this might be a bug or a result of some programs i've installed, but...

has anyone noticed while in the dial pad, if you press and hold down any number the phone vibrates? i didnt notice this at first and only discovered it when i held down the 1 key to call voicemail.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I will probably have a better CommManager, but HTC Album will not be in the clean ROM. It will, however, be an option in the upcoming EasyBakeOven.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
That's strange. I flashed it a few times... ok... more than a few times, trying out different package configurations and I always ended up with 28.xx mb free after leaving the device alone for a minute or two while it finishes all its boot up processes. (Not plugged into a PC.) The pagepool SHOULD be the same, as they're really the same device, but maybe I'm wrong. Are any other Herald users encountering the same issue? It shouldn't matter what's in the device prior to flashing. It will be deleted. What do you mean, manual registry adjustments. You shouldn't have to do any kind of registry adjustment.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
It's not a bug. :p I made it that way on purpose. It entertains me when I dial. :p

If people don't like it, I can't remove that "feature." lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
I have found a minor bug - out of the box, holding the Button 4 links VoiceCmd, which is removed. The bad thing is that this button hold action cannot be changed (at least not in settings->buttons). It used to toggle mute in the stock herald wm6 rom and I got quickly used to it. It would be nice if you fixed it somehow - make it adjustable or make it point to something which is not deleted. The only Idea how to fix it myself I have is to copy the desired exe to win dir and rename it to VoiceCmd.exe, it migh work.

Do you know about any application which would toggle sound?

Another weird thing: I used to have MMS and SMS as two separate acconts in Messaging, now there is SMS/MMS. I don't know which is better, I just wanted to say it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Thanks for the help debugging this ROM!!

The VoiceCmd issue I've noticed, I'll see what I can do about it.

The toggling Mute, I'm not sure if it was even part of the T-mobile ROM to begin with. I usually toggle sound through HTC Home.

The MMS and SMS being seperate, is because I'm using a different version of the MMS program. I can include one that has them seperate if that's what everyone wants. Just tell me.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
how can i flash that clean rom to my wing ?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
The superclean one? I have an updated flashing I'll upload later on today or tomorrow. It will flash just like the BluePad does. If you want to flash it now, you will not get the full space unless you flash the BluePad first.

It'll be easier if you wait for the updated file. :-)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
aight np i can wait
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
I'm not saying it was part of the rom your build is based on, I just mean it is very addictive.

Sadly I failed to find a stand-alone exe which would toggle mute and the ink file taken from Spb Pocket Plus doesn't suffice.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
It's one of the features that I miss the most about my Wizard... Maybe I'll find a way to do it... maybe...

This will do the trick for now.

Wait... just tried it... it killed my signal when it switched. lol (For a second or two...)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] agee:
HAHA, leave it in. the first time i noticed it was when i tried to call my VM, my phone started vibrating so i thought someone was calling me :)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] chris30_2001:
Yeah I like the vibradial thingy! I noticed that when you dial, only the first number shows up in the window where the numbers are supposed to show up as you type them
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
What do you mean? It shows all the numbers I press on my end here.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
lol. I was wondering how long it would take people to say something about it. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
Yeah, that's it. I copied it into the win dir and renamed it to VoiceCmd and it replaces the removed app, so the button works exactly as it used to work! (the signal thing is a small bonus :P )
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
You can set those keys to work with other things that are installed, too. :-)

I haven't fully decided what I want them to be tied to in the final ROM, yet, though...
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
thanks for the clean rom
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
no comm manager on the rom

comm manager if any1 needs it
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] agee:
there's one in there, it has a green skin to it. if i remember correctly there isnt a link to it from the menus, but its there. i just installed the 10 button comm manager

try clicking the Edge button in the top toolbar and it should let you goto the comm manager from there
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I was going for smallest Comm Manager. I'm gonna release this same ROM with a few tweaks to at least make it more attractive. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Oooh, That's what he means? I'll fix that. lol Yea, I don't use the shortcut, so I didn't include it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
i dont need it any more i found a link to download comm manager
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
The comm manager obviously is in windows folder. There is one button missing though...does someone know what it was? I commonly use only two buttons (wifi and bluetooth), but the comm manager with even count of buttons looks weirdly.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] FZZF:
Calculator

I don't know if this was mentioned or not but the calculator does not exist or I am turning blind.

and I am still voting for a clean rom that's fully HTC skined wherever possible with HTC Home and no cube.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
The calculator was removed by me because you will have an option of calculators in my kitchen. (Although I use it... and I miss it while making this ROM and trying out my many many builds.)

Beta 2 will be HTC skinned but the HTC Home will NOT be in it. That will be part of the kitchen. This is for a purely CLEAN rom. The cube isn't there because I find it useless. lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] FZZF:
thanks for finding the calculator for me .. I thought I was losing it...lol I agree the cube is useless I don't use it my self.

a couple more thoughts, how about htc album replacing the original pictures and video if possible and a way to flash or get rid of the hideous T-Mobile splash screen.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] FZZF:
oh yea and windows 6.1 would be really nice..lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
windows 6.1 ?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
They are still in development and in reasonable time will be only in standard (non touch screen) edition afaik.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
HTC Album: Thinking about it...

The Hideous T-Mobile Splash screen: Already working on it... Just can't get the format correctly... No other comment until I get it working. ;)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Windows Mobile 6.1... no comment.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] papamopps:
it will come. there are videos around - and in other subforums they are discussing it
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] itje:
lmao........................
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
Could you please include a subtitle plugin for TCPMP into a next build of bluepad? I and many non-native-english-speakers would appreciate it very much. TY
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] mahd-leb:
its nice to knw ur thinking about adding htc album its adds a cool look for the rom anyways about your cooking kitchen if we cooked the rom and added some of the apps we wanted will we get the same ram as the original rom ur going to be releasing . btw i dont mean like 25 apps lol just like 2 or 3 and i read somewhere that htc album has some problems with netcf3.5
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Do you guys want me to kill Windows Media Player?

I have the HTC Audio Manager and the newest unofficial TCPMP WITH the subtitle plugin, so I don't see a reason for it to waste our space.

Also, I've added HTC Album and it's working fine with NetCF3.5.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
only if u replace it with something else like pocket player
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
TCPMP is Pocket Player, isn't it?:confused:
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
nop i think lol or a really cool player to listen to music will be great
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
HTC Audio Manager is a really cool player to listen to music with. :confused:
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] loco41:
LOL ok nevermind
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Also, do you want a grey color coded background to match the rest of the theme? Or leave it be and release a seperate ROM with my theme?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
You mean it is already there? I'm quite sure it isn't...

TCPMP=The Core Pocket Media Player. Pocket Player is commercial audio player, the best on market ;)

Why not. I would rather kill Audio Manager though. I don't use it at all, WMP is still good as backup music player (for example when Pocket Player trial expires and I'm far away from my PC :) ).

Lol'ed
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Not in the Beta you guys have... in the one I'm working on.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] mahd-leb:
the rom sounds like its on version of a great rom anyways about killing wmp hmmm i dnt knw i kinda think its an alright player i mean tcmp is only cool because it lets u play youtube videos and audiomanager nt really that great of a music player in case we want 2 make our phones mp3 player maybe we can switch with a good music mp3 kind player
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] nextpimp:
Close but not quite... It WAS BetaPlayer...became TCPMP and is now sold as "CorePlayer" .... I use CorePlayer and it rocks... but 0.72 was a good build..fully funtional..and its free.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
CorePlayer != POcket player!!!

Look what PP is: http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I actually changed it to the unofficial 0.81 TCPMP.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Updated the first post a little to clear things up a bit and added some screenshots of the newest build with the black theme.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] CommZ:
You will be releasing real Herald version or you mean it warks also on herald?

So which splash is there now?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] papamopps:
i guess killing wmp is not such as easy as you think. some tried it on wizard - and din´t succed.

perhaps you can share your knownledge
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I haven't killed it yet. Had a lot of people ask me to please not kill it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
It will be a version with the proper Herald keyboard.

The splash is my own silly splash. You'll see it when you flash it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Oh, I forgot to mention. I released the Beta 2. It's got a lot of bug fixes and a few changes in the look. It also has a splash screen replacing that ugly Tmobile splash screen.

There is also a Herald version now, not just a tmobile version.

The splash is a clean splash... jsut flash it and tell me what you think.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] isamualva1:
how can i do .nb and what do i need
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
If it's for flashing purposes, I advise you use the NBH file provided with USPL.

If it's for cooking, you'll have to extract the nb by using nbhtool.

If your SPL is lower than 4.0.blah blah, then extract the os.nb... I always forget about that...
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] papamopps:
The herald_black version .nbh doesn´t work for RUUs for hard-spl devices.

i got "wrong model-id error"

I had to run nbhextract and then again nbhgen - with model Hera****

then it worked.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
That's my fault... I used HERA110... lol
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] #13:
Thanks for the ROM still waiting for you to tie up lose ends...

Can you add the QuickMenu, so that the start menu will be expandable???

Like in Open Touch?

Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
What loose ends? Tell me what they are and I'll fix them.

QuickMenu is NOT going to be in the CleanROM. That's the whole point of the CleanROM. It MIGHT be on the Black rom, though.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] mahd-leb:
does the clean rom have htc album??? and can please post the screenshots for the black rom version or if those screenshots in the post are for that version can u screenshots for the clean rom ? hw much ram and memory does the clean rom have ? thnk u for all ur hard work man
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ivanmmj:
They look the same. As the first post states, the Black version is the only one that has HTC Album. RAM is around 27mb when first started but it goes down to around 20mb after a while of use due to the memory being used to speed up the system. (I THINK... I'm gonna remove those tweaks and see if I see any improvement in that... if not, then I have to find the memory leak.) Storage space is in the 40mb's. I don't remember how much. Try it out. :-)

No problem. I'm just hungry for figuring out how things work and how to make them better.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Voyager_MP:
Hi, will this rom work with my vodafone compact IV ? (German)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] papamopps:
the vodafon is more similar to the herald. so take the herald rom...
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Voyager_MP:
one more question how do i flash such an Image ? (Clean_Beta_2_black_for_Heralds.nbh)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] The Dutchman:
Check the First post, at the bottom, USPL