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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Milkman328:
That's awsome, maybe more of us will have that luck!!

VS985 Verizon
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jamezr:
Nice! What was your order date and ship date? :)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
LaosPerson's is here:

LaosPerson	128GB	Quite Black	Pixel XL	Online	Southern California	11/24/16	01/06/17	3/10/17

Here is a link to the spreadsheet again from a few pages back:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GJgns2Rb3qPeuT7l1Z_hPKth7VJOucAabytwjFthZGw/edit?usp=sharing
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fiveighteen:
Check the spreadsheet. ;)

He ordered on 11/24/16, his original expected ship date was 01/06/17. He got the email that said 3/10/17 was his new ESD, but his order page continued to say 1/6/17 and it shipped today.

EDIT: Ninja'd
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Order date 11/24. Ship date was today 1/09 from Memphis TN.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] PARADOX-SEV:
Order dates of 12/23 and 01/08. All black 32 Pixel XLs and they all shipped today. Arriving on Wednesday.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
No it doesn't.

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I'll just let you all know in advance. If your package is coming ups and requires a signature a signed delivery note will not work! When your ups driver scans your package a prompt on the dial will tell him a signature is required at time of delivery. Your signed note will basically get discarded.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hokiealumnus:
It has for years for me with regular shipments. Maybe it doesn't work with your driver. But thanks for the thoughtful and detailed reply.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
My brother works for UPS and I just asked him. He says sig required will require taking it back to the depot if no one home to receive and sign for it. He did say that there are regular routes where that policy may be overlooked, but it is the driver's a55 if something comes up missing, so majority don't do it any more.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hokiealumnus:
Appreciate that. Will edit my post to reflect it requires an established working relationship with your delivery person. :)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
I am a ups driver. Indirect means leaving your package with someone else. Has for the 28 years I've been there.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hokiealumnus:
Thanks for the clarification, edited my post as above. My guy has just been delivering to me here for a good seven or eight years now. Guess I'm just lucky. :)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
Ya that happens. I've been on my route 18 years now and hell if I don't know everyone. There are "some" that get, I guess you could say better service then the norm. I'll say this though, I'd never sign for someones $900 phone and leave it. I'd leave my cell and have you meet me, but that's just me.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BurtGummer:
I ordered mine on 11-10 and didn't receive my 128GB Quite Black Pixel XL until 12-28. The wait was almost unbearable but the Pixel is well worth the wait. I think if I were ordering today with an estimated March ship date I would just hold out for the S8 Edge or the HTC Ocean Note
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
Surprised there are that many folks that filled out the form in this relatively small community already...several 1/11/2017 receive dates on there and 11th isn't here yet; maybe not put a date in there until phone is actually in hand?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kidbudi:
I added to the survey as well, I performed a larger scale survey which you can find in this (https://www.reddit.com/r/googlepixel/comments/5l57wz) reddit thread. It has about 500 responses but it's Google direct and Verizon orders combined.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] collindv:
Now that mine is on the way (hopefully with an unlockable bootloader) is there a good how to thread on how to safely unlock, root, and update for Verizon models? I have looked through many already but am looking for good advice before doing something stupid.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sportscon15:
I'm finding so many different stories from forums about Verizon reps responses. I just don't understand. I ordered my VS XL 128gb on 11/25 and I can't believe that it is really pushed back until 3/3/17.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mstngracer:
So my credit card got charged today lol. Maybe thats a good sign? hopefully?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Sure is, it is shipping.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mstngracer:
Sweet!

Hopefully its a good sign for all the peeps that ordered the Silver Pixel XL's.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sportscon15:
Gives me hope!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] disco1224:
Their website has always been horrible and their app is the same. Customer service, so so....

But this has really ruffled them up a bit, I'm not sure to blame them but I'm sure Google not being able to keep up with demand is the main problem.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
I'm about to flip out at Verizon. Logged into my account to see that my order no longer has a ship date at all. Previously had 02/17/2017. Now instead it shows the replacement LG V10 that I shipped back as going past the return date. I shipped it back 3 days after getting the refurbished replacement. The tracking number shows it's in their city but now that moved to the top of my orders and my Pixel is no longer showing anything.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
That sucks, just hang in there, because no one else got a shipping date/confirmation payment with the 128gb very silver XL yet, though it is strange that it disappeared. As for the LG v10, as long as you don't get charged for it, you should be fine, otherwise try to prove it if you have a time stamp when you mailed it back.

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I mean unless they're shipping me a fake device, shipping says it should get here by 1/11, hopefully.

Annnnnd my pixel barely left Memphis TN two minutes ago. lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
Might be prudent to just wait for this, LOL...Only another month past XL expected ship dates.

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-april-release-date-742203/
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] spotmark:
Sure, if you want a locked down phone. I won't buy anything that I can't unlock and root.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
Tongue in cheek, dude, tongue in cheek...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jackburnt:
Thanks for all the replies regarding "indirect signing." I apologize to everyone as I didn't mention the carrier: FedEx. My UPS guy knows us (for good or ill... we order a lot through Amazon), but we don't get many FedEx packages.

Oh well. I asked my sweet wife to keep an ear out for the delivery, but I'm going to leave a note too. One more day! I hope I get an unlocked bootloader too.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b4u2:
My big issue with this whole deal is I did the black Friday trade in with my Note 5. I got $629 or whatever and traded in to try out the iPhone 7+ since Verizon had the extended return period. I don't care for the iPhone and and went to return it to get the pixel. They claimed I would still get the same trade in value and price on the Pixel XL. I would normally have to return the iPhone on January 14th I believe but the Pixel XL won't be here by then. Talked to a few Verizon reps that claim I will still get the same price but I'm basically hosed on any other phone deal because I did the trade in. I doubt I could even get my Note 5 back at this point.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
Yeah, I didn't think I'd be getting the Pixel XL anytime soon since my ship date was another month+ away. I just didn't want to be penalized because they didn't receive the LG V10 back yet. Which really didn't make sense because the penalty for not returning a device is having to pay the full cost. Either way, I just checked and my expected ship date is back to 02/17/2017. :eek:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
No apologies necessary, I've seen people getting their phones through both carriers. I'm just glad I can ad my 2 cents whether needed or not lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
My pixel XL should be coming through FedEx. Or it should be because I'm tracking my phone from their website.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sportscon15:
My order page still hasn't changed since I ordered on black Friday. The email they sent is the only thing that shows a March shipping date. Everything else I see still has the 1/6 ship date. Verizon and Google have really failed
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BurtGummer:
To those waiting for shipment make sure you have $20 in the bank at all times ? because there is a good chance it ships early. Mine went out a week earlier than estimate
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Once you get payment taken from your bank. It's official. My phone is already in San Diego which is where I live. Now to wait for it to be processed and put onto the FedEx truck and to be delivered.

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That sucks. It's weird they sent mine already but not yours. Did you order yours on 11/25? Mine was ordered 11/24. I'd check the spreadsheet to see if you're there but my phone doesn't play well with that spreadsheet apparently.

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$20? I was charged like $89
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
All this talk about payments? Did you guys buy through Verizon or the Goggle website? The only payment I'm making is tax on the device at the time of activation. Nobody's taking money out of my bank account.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
Yes (at least for me) it's the tax that Verizon will charge as they don't do that until the phone is ordered/shipped. I'm expecting the tax on the device plus the $20 upgrade fee. Verizon changed their upgrade fee to $30 but we should all be paying the lower amount since that is what it was when we placed these orders.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b4u2:
I paid the tax in the store when I ordered mine. Because I did the trade in upgrade with the Note 5 mine is billed to my account monthly. They gave me $629 or whatever for my Note 5 but they dole it out over two years which is why I am basically stuck waiting for the Pixel. It was a Black Friday deal. They charge me $33 a month for the Pixel XL then credit me back $25 for 24 months. I don't have the exact number in front of me but by the time it's all said and done I will pay $8.33 a month for a QB Pixel XL 128.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
Same here but I kept my LG V10 which is what I'm trading in. They didn't want the trade-in when I placed the order. They said to keep it until the Pixel XL arrives. At the end of December they had the Pixel XL for $20/month minus my trade-in brings it to the same $8.33/month. So I'm getting less than $12/month for the V10. :( Either way, I can't beat $8.33/month for a new flagship phone so waiting is all I can do.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b4u2:
I originally traded in for the iPhone 7+ but I don't like the iPhone so I am waiting on the Pixel. I had to send my Note 5 in when I got the iphone. So I am stuck with this iPhone until the Pixel comes in.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JU57US:
I got the upgrade fee waived when I called *611 to order my two on Black Friday weekend. When I canceled and re-ordered on 12/17 to get the better $20/mo no-trade-in deal, my upgrade fees were waived again. I also live in a State where VZW doesn't charge the taxes on the phone, so I have no payments being processed other than what's on the phone bill.

That all is great, but the downside is I can't check my card/account to see when it was charged/shipped. I'm relying on the txt/email.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] advid:
I swiped a credit card for the tax in store when I pre-ordered my pixel, but apparently the tax isn't actually charged until the phone ships.

The pre-order number in my Verizon changed to an order number a couple of days ago and I had hoped that they would ship the phone soon... But nothing happened. I'm coming up on the 7th week of waiting (I ordered 11/25) and really wish Verizon would tell me something about when I can expect my phone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] madsquabbles:
My tax was taken out at the time of ordering. $82 - tax plus activation fee, this was on Dec 16.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fiveighteen:
That happened with all of the 3/3 (or 3/10) email stuff. Last time I talked to Verizon, they said that even though we see it as an order number now, theirs shows it back in pre-order status.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] collindv:
Mine was just delivered. I am not home but I had my wife send me a picture of the label. Looks like it is running software version NDE63P, which I believe it the October update and still unlockable!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jamezr:
Congrats and that is great news on the build version.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
My gut says its going to be a long time before they change manufacturing to include the new lock. If ever.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Mine is delivered at home too. However not sure of the software version yet.

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Mine is nde63p too. Someone want to add that to the spreadsheet? Should I unlock it? If I unlock it can I still install OTA updates? Was it depixel8 or whatever to unlock it?

Nvm I don't want to unlock it, I planned on using Android pay.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Unlock it, yes depixel8. Not on xda, google it.

Unlocked does not trip safteynet. Root and other mods do. So do it and keep your options open.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jamezr:
That is good advice right there.....
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] VCURamEngineer:
Pretty sure unlocking the bootloader does trip safetynet. This would prevent the use of Android Pay without a custom kernel.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidForLife33:
I think there is a kernel in the development part we're you can flash it and keep AP working.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Okay so should I just not unlock it at all then? Cause I really do plan to use Android pay.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] VCURamEngineer:
Just depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. If you want to unlock the bootloader and use Android Pay, you'll need the custom kernel. If you want the custom kernel, you'll probably want to install the custom recovery to flash the kernel, or you'll need to use fastboot. Really just depends on your comfort level with those processes, the time you're willing to spend, and the perceived rewards of having an unlocked boot loader vs remaining stock.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. I'm just going to update it and not unlock it. If I could trade with one of you guys that really wanted an unlocked bootloader if one of you guys get one later (with updated software, just speculation,I would)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
You are absolutely right. Dunno what was thinking. It can be fixed by pretty much any of the kernels though.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
I bought this phone as a phone that just works. If I need to unlock the bootloader and install custom things then it just defeated the purpose for me. So I think I'll just update my phone to 7.1.1. Also apparently these phones are controlled by Google, not Verizon so if an update does not go through that Google has put out, I've been failed again, again this phone I wanted as a no nonsense device.

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Actually, one final thing, does unlocking the bootloader cause OTA updates to stop working or will I have to side load them? Does the bootloader always stay unlocked if I update after unlocking? Cause now I said I wanted no nonsense but now I'm rethinking....... :confused:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
And that was why I gave the wrong answer earlier, got updates and unlock confused. Unlock only will still update. Once unlocked it stays unlocked.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Okay that's cool. So I don't have to side load new updates either?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidForLife33:
Only if you root or add custom recovery. If you deside to root or use TWRP and new update come out you'll have to flash stock update first to take OTA.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Shooooooooot. I just realized I have to reset my phone after unlocking the bootloader. I setup my phone nicely already. ???
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Long as that is all you do, updates will be normal. That was how I started out with mine. Unlocked, took the update and then root.

But now I have to flash updates myself, because of the root.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Okay I think I might just unlock the bootloader to future proof. But I'm going to have to resetup my device lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidForLife33:
Small downside to face for such a great gift. Unlock tonight and set back up your device tomorrow.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JU57US:
Great news on the shipment and the software version
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Ugh, I became indecisive again, I am doubting the unlock, because I can unlock it but I don't want a custom kernel for android pay to work, then if it gets unlocked I don't want the warranty to be void or show that I tampered with it (safetynet) in case I try to get a replacement incase a "manufacturer" defect occurs such as a dead pixel on the screen which happened to me with my s6 edge plus. I'm like a girl that can't decide where to eat.

Edit: would re-locking the bootloader make this safetynet or whatever not be triggered?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
This is the same EXACT question I have and the same EXACT thing I was going to do, just keep everything else stock but unlock it lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] advid:
I've never had Verizon find out or care if I unlocked my bootloader or installed custom software. I have the LG G3 with bumped roms and it's never caused me any problems with them, even during a warranty exchange I think most of the store personnel don't know or care what you do with your phone if you have a hardware issue.

Question though: even if we bought the phone from Verizon, don't we get support from Google?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xVallex:
Warranty issues would be handled through Asurion wouldn't it? I've never had an issue with sending them a rooted phone that was broken and them trying to make me pay retail for it or something. At the same time, I think I'm over the whole rooting/ROMing thing. I started out ROMing to change the look/ vanilla aspect of it, then went to rooting strictly to delete the bloat, but now? Nothing has really led me to want to.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Same here, so should I just forget unlocking the bootloader and go ahead and update? Or will i really regret it, the only reason I would install a custom rom is when google stops supporting this phone in two years, but by then something better and new will be out (pixel 3 hopefully)

For me, I always had "manufacturer defects" which I told verizon and they just send me a new phone and i return the old one, zero charge. Well cause I also have the insurance plan too that's why.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BakedTator:
The answer is very simple man...Unlock it and then update...After that, flash a custom kernel and AP will work as long as you don't root...If you need to warranty the device for whatever reason, then flash back to complete stock and relock the bootloader and send it in...That simple ;)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LaosPerson:
Ummmmmm I just unlocked mine and i really dislike that unlock lock icon on bootup and that message in the beginning o_o does that mean it's unlocked now?

Edit: nvm in developer settings it says bootloader is already unlocked.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Skeeter35:
This thread is supposed to be for the shipping status of the pixel. Need to take this to the development thread or questions thread.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MeetFace:
^^ there are a thousand threads about locking unlocking a pure Google device and the implications
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JU57US:
Deleted.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Skeeter35:
That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. You are not shedding light on this topic. These conversations should be taken to the appropriate threads.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
As already mentioned, please move this discussion to development/Q&A/off topic...somewhere besides this thread...thanks!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JU57US:
Alright, I'll delete it. I had hoped to post that info for LaosPerson in order to shed light on his question and then get this thread back on the topic of shipments, as I said. Didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hovercraftdriver:
Misery has company...

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/925374

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/924453

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/923547
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hokiealumnus:
I find it amusing/depressing that no VZW employee or even forum staff have touched those threads with a ten foot pole. (Except to edit posts for language.)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MarkStinger:
This would be a perfect time for one of the other carriers to come up with a promo to bring in all the unhappy Verizon customers dealing with this. Reading some of the remarks it sounds like it is possible VZW knew of the longer delays awhile ago and just waited until after January 1st to say anything.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Drashnar:
Yep, I just checked and confirmed it. No change in my shipping date, but at least the confirmation is back.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] spotmark:
Just got off the phone with those f****** again, and was told that my shipping date is being pushed to 12/02. Was supposed to go out today. If it ships with the December build, and dePixel8 doesn't work, I'm going to be pissed.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] booked:
Same for me. Back to processing this morning and still says 11/18 for the ship date. Hopefully is actually ships out.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Harleydroid:
I talked to a rep last night that said it was good to ship today but obviously there's zero movement for us 11/18 ship date folks. It's really sad because I ordered my Pixel on 10/18 and ordered my daughter a IPhone 7 plus on 11/9 and it was delivered today. I absolutely would never use an Apple but this just really changes my outlook on Google. I may just go with another phone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tttuning:
I talked to a rep today and I'm told it's shipping out today and is not getting delayed