yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] habibunnajar:
stuck at step 3

Dear all, I'm a newbies. I was trying to upgrade my Dopod 818 pro to WM6. Following your instruction. at step 3 , I cannot proceed,either I' too dumb or something I did it wrong..

# go to the ExtRom folder. (Look at the picture) you will find ExtRom folder in most of the wm6 roms when you download a wm6 rom,this folder is usually beside the Upgrade_ROM.bat .

# make all the files read only (Select them, right click , then properties and then read Only) <-------Important!! (Updated)

# inject the ExtRom folder

# save the file.

I cannot find the extRom folder in most of the wm6 rom.....where is the folder?

Pls help me.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
Some of the wm6 roms don't have this folder. when you download a wm6 rom , usually it's a .rar or .zip file. when you uncompress it somewhere on your hard drive you will usually see a Upgrade_ROM.bat beside that file there is ExtROM folder. if there was no extrom folder don't worry and proceed to the next step.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] jarel:
Newbie question...

I am a "more than satisfied" user of Crystal V4 (it is perfect!),... and I prefer not to change anything but.... flash-aholicsm is a bad thing and I can not stand still without testing this new BOMB.

A couple of questions:

1.- When following all the new process with Crystal V4,... the outcome will be

exactly the same

as the Crystal V4 installed the "old way"?l

2.- MOST IMPORTANT: Will I be able to use a backup (SpbBackup) to restore all installed programs, settings, etc....?

Thanks in advance,

Jarel
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
No ! With this new Method you will add 8 mg to your storage. your total storage will increase.

Yes, I think so, but if you are a real flashOholic you never spend so much time installing programs on your ppc, you just flash a new rom everyday :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] jarel:
:) :) :)

Ja, ja, ja,....

That was the case,... until I found Crystal V4 (now, I'm in love with V4 and it gets tough to flash anything else).

HMA4!!!! You are the one to to put the blame on,.... ja, ja, ja, :p

Jarel
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] animelover:
As I said before, it was a wrong cooked ROM which resulted in my problem! Now I have my own Big Storage ROM, based on the Mysterious 1.0! :D
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
happy you got it working ;)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] animelover:
I hope you aren't getting angry with me because I'm translating your guide into german and add some experiences from my own test runnings! :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] xvx45:
Any news for a RUU compliant with Vista and Prophet ?

After some tests :

- NVID RUU for Prophet work in Vista but check authenticity from nk.nbf, so don't work with my ROM

- One patched RUU for Wizard work with Prophet but check what PPC is plugged.

So does any modification are possible to bypass ROM check from RUU ? How (hex, ressourcehack) ?

Thanks.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
Why would I get angry, I'm happy that more people can use their device the way it was suppose to be used. I wrote this guide because I want to share what I learned. I think if we don't share what we know we can't move forward and learn more. You did grate translating this guide.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wiccan-two:
Hi, i am kind of new here and i have successfully flashed my device to pda viet step 1 but cannot flash any thing else. Every time i run the update.bat it says file cannot be found, so after looking through the messages here i found your guide, but now every time i flash using this method i am stuck on boot loader after device reboots, now the only rom i can use is pda viet step 1 can any body help. I am not cooking my own rom and am downloading them from here. I followed the steps to the letter so i dont know what i have done wrong i've got to have missed something somewhere.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wiccan-two:
No worries i figured out whit i did wrong!

The problem was that for some unknown reason my computer wont run runCE or copyCE so the hardspl batch file doesnt work for me, so i did it manualy and i am now happy with my wm6 prophet.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] John-Wu:
hi animelover,

can you please tell me where to get your translation in german?

thanks

John
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] up123987:
I don't understand the fourth step. The OME Version&Operator Version. :(

thank you!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] habibunnajar:
hma4.. need more help

Hi hma4,

Sorry, for asking you this question again.

I still cannot proceedto step 4 because something is missing in step 3.

I cannot find extrom folder.

I think I have already follow the instruction. I can see "You should put your files here"..I did delete it.the only folder left is '_TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR'

this folder has 0 file. this is where I stuck. Cannot see extrom folder.

Pls help.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wiccan-two:
The extrom folder is inside the zip file for the rom you want not inside the image. Hope this helps
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] animelover:
I'm still working on it because I'm a pupil and have to learn for three examinations which are written in this week! :mad:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] prash1410:
what am i doing wrong!

Hi hma4,

i have followed the procedure that you have mentioned in the first post. as i have already hard SPL before, i skipped step 2. all went well but at the end of the process my imate jamin reboots and gets stuck at the customization screen. this has happened twice. not sure what i am doing wrong, any ideas

i am trying to upgrade to crystal v3 from PV TEMP

thanks

prash
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
what do you mean customization screen ?! :) Crystal V5 is coming out you might want to wait for that one.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bsmllh99:
Thanks

Thank you for everyone who has contributed especially hma4 for the step-by-step guides.

thks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] prash1410:
what am i doing wrong II?

what i mean by customization screen is:after the system reboots following the update, it shows a small window çustomizing in 3 seconds' , then it loads the different plugins and gets stuck.

of course i am awaiting v5 but i used v3 because it is a very stable rom and anyways i was trying out your method, i hope i have been clear. i dont know a better way to explain this.

Thanks

Prash
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] draven187:
HMA4 thnx for the HardSPL tool, it worked for me after copying EnableRapi.cab and Cert_SPCS.cab to my device and run them....
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
you are making a mistake in make the extension rom. check your config.txt , also make sure that all the files in your ExtRom folder are read Only. then make sure that the start address and name is of extension rom is correct. (in nb2nbf.exe) I'm sure you can get it to work :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
I didn't make the HardSPL . I just wrote a simple batch file. Prislav is the one we should thank :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] draven187:
Then thnx to Prislav and you for making the batch:)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hawhill:
Hi, I've ran into the sme problem. The culprit in my case was the cab for rlToday that I added to the ExtROM: It has a call to one of its DLLs that it does after installing which just presents a dialog box (saying it installed fine) which waits for a press on the OK button. Unfortunately, this is hidden by the extrom setup procedure: The Window will be below the setup status screen in the Window stack and the setup procedure really insists on being displayed on the top level. So it gets stuck there. When I have some spare time on the weekend, I'll re-cook the CAB so it doesn't do that, then the problem will be gone for me. As for now, as it's only one CAB, I just have it installed at the last position, so I can get away by just resetting at that point.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wqqar:
Why this update process looks complicated to me, than the older one ???
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
with the new roms that are going to come out , it's not that complicated , basically you have to hardSPL then know if your device is G3 or G4 and then execute an .exe file :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] haris2887:
i tried this guide, but

when i run HardSPL.bat, (i have a G4), it stays at initialization.....

then is says error failed to execute program and gives me an error code (....cant remember the code), will update in a sec.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] sliti.sabri:
Hello,

I tried to follow the steps, but when I run "HardSPL.bat" the screen goes white, I suppose that it's normal, but when I run the file "ROMUpdateUtility.exe" PDA restarts in mode SPL and display in the top right "RUU" and in the lower left "USB" and in the upper left "IPL 1.00" and "SPL 1.00" and some moments of waiting I get the error message in the PC "UPDATE ERROR [260]. " :eek: :eek: :eek:

And that's all.

thank you in advance if you have a solutions.

@+
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
Nice to know... how's the wive?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Huwie:
First timer

Hi, I can see a lot of effort went into the guide and I appreciate it but the guide was definitaly not written from a first time "flasher" 's point of view.

When I run the Hardspl.bat I get a white screen on my imate. It's a G4 version and I'm using the G4 Hardspl.

Any suggestions? At least I handled the first step and got this stuff downloaded!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
you are supposed to see the white screen , then follow the instruction in updateUtility and once you are done you will see that your phone will restart itself and the SPL version has changed to 2.G4.4PDA. this means you have successfully HARDSPL your phone.

if somebody add some points to clarify the whole process for the first time "flasher", i will update the first post.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Huwie:
Hi, thanks for the speedy response, you guys are great! The problem with the white screen is that I couldnt get an activesync connection to run the update utility...

I did some other research and as I was version 2.13 or something I figured I must have already been HardSPL'd or something. Although reading this I can see that I was probably wrong about that.

Just a quick question, is this new way an alternative to running Upgrade_Rom.bat that came in the new ROM?

Another quick question, how do I point ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe to the new nk.nbf file?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
you don't need the activesync connection. (once you get to the white screen) just follow the instruction on your screen , click update image .. and update your SPL with the patched SPL.

yes. but in old method if you already had wm6 on your phone you couldn't simply run the upgrade_rom.bat, you had to downgrade to wm5 first.

besides with this new method your total storage will increase. (try it yourself)

you don't have to do anything.(nk.nbf has to be in the same folder as RomUpdateUtility)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Huwie:
So in the interest of other new people like me, the HardSPL is the part of this guide which is unclear for a complete newcomer like me. When I tried to run the RomUpdateUtility with nk.nbf in that folder my phone just sat at the tri-colour screen (bootloader?)

In any event I have it working now via the updaterom.bat - what difference would I notice with this new method, 10 meg extra ram free?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
yes , something like that ! :) ( as i said it depends to the size of os.nb, read the first post :) )

once you got to the bootloader you have to follow the instructions on screen .. and update your phone ... I really can't clarify this more ! :)

okay here is for the last time: for hardSPL .. run the bat file .. then the upateUtility will get executed .. follow the instruction on the screen and then you see a progress bar .. after it got to 100% your phone will reboot itself .. and then you know it's done and you can move to the next step.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
@ Huwie:

First, I get the impression that you don't have any knowledge about how the soft- and hardware of your Prophet are working together. That is no big deal, with normal use you don't have to bother with that.

But when you want to dive into it deeply, it is essential that you learn about those things first. This guide is not written to be a course in this matter, there are other threads (especially in the "General" department and in the WIKI's) already that cover that subject.

This guide is only ment to give step by step instructions how to flash your device in a other, new way then we were used to do.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
"the new way"

What's new about it?

The official way to update some software on your device is to use a ROM Update Utility (RUU) provided by the vendor of your specific device.

Unfortunally, this RUU does some checks that made it impossible to flash one, universal cooked ROM. So, wise people devellopped a backdoor. This backdoor is what we where doing all the time:

downgrade to WM5 NoVendorID (because of the SPL?)

then run the Upgrade.bat with the preffered OS.NB (updated OS)

make a hard reset to wipe out all the obsolete WM5 parts.

Now, someone devellopped a SPL that can work together with the RUU without the anoying check. BINGO, no backdoor needed anymore!

Two problems though.

First, you have to get this patched SPL on your phone

Second, the RUU doesn't use OS.NB but a compressed NK.NBF file to read the new OS from.

Now this guide kicks in

Step1:

Just download the needed apps and utills, collected for your convinience.

Step2:

The first problem can be delt with by using jumpSPL everytime you want to flash your phone, OR (as described in this guide) by installing HardSPL once. This SPL will be resident untill you flash another SPL. If you avoid that, you don't have to bother about this step the next time.

Step 3 and 4:

The second problem, how to convert the "old" OS filestypes to the type that can be red by the RUU is described in the following steps. This will be essential because the ROM's you find till now have to be converted. In the future more and more ROM's will be presented in the right format so eventually you don't have to bother about those steps too.

Step 5:

So, with your phone updated to the right SPL and your new OS converted to the right file type, it is time to flash your phone, finally!

Just place the converted ROM (NK.NBF) in the same folder as the RUU and the associated files, connect your phone with USB and run the RUU.

Follow the on-screen instructions from the PC and wait for the proces to finish. You will see a progress-bar on your device. When it's ready, press "Finish" and you are done.

HAVE FUN!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] sliti.sabri:
Probleme resolve

The problem is solved, it was made an issue of windows vista, I do not know why but when I tried to update this file: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip and especially under windows XP, it's OK ....
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] deadringer:
G3, G4 or Something else ?

Hi all,

Reading through the posts, to determine if my device is a g3/g4 device it says to check the IPL/SPL version.

Trouble is that IPL number does not match the format as described in the first post.

My screen shows:

IPL 1.00 <--- Differs in the format

SPL 2.13.0000

GSM 02.20.21

OS 2.13.9.23

Fone: iMate Jamin

The SPL format indicates it may be a G3 ?

Is there any gotcha's with upgrading to WM6 with these loaders using the procedure outline in the first post of this thread ?

Thanks for any help.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
I think you have to update your IPL. Be careful because Updating IPL is something that if you mess up, you wont be able to turn your phone on (it wont go to boot loader). I updated my IPL myself. just be careful.

you will find a link in prophet upgrade threads.

ps. I believe your device is G3.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
This should do the trick... but again be careful. BTW You should rename the extention to .rar It is a rar-file but the extention isn't recognized by this forum, so I renamed it.

View attachment IPL_2.20_G3.zip
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] deadringer:
Many thanks hma4 and rondol1.

With the .rar file, once extracted, do I just run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe file ?

Thanks.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] haris2887:
ok i found problem in the tutorial that u might want to update and make it more clear for ppl...

when making the extrom you said you have to make the files read only(ppl assume going to explorer and highlighting all the extrom files and R'click properties and Read only) that will not work...

Solution:

after you have injected the folder, you have to select all files and R'click properties and check read only....then u can file save ect...

This work, as i had this problem and that was the fix...

just to clear thing up...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
That should do it, yes. It will update your IPL and nothing else.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] klebsiela:
Another newbie

Hello!

Sorry for bodering but I read the whole thread and you guys seem to be very kind so I have some stupid newbie questions. I have my Prophet for one week and its in german so I decided to flash it (to get english language and some other interesting things) and I'm reading the forum and wiki whole week because want to be prepared and perhaps, just perhaps getting some knowledge about it. Now I'm nearly prepared to start with it so I downloaded "update package" and some ROMs and I decided (dont know why) to choose Transformer so I have two files: Prophet_PV_Temp.zip and Transformer_1.0.zip.

Here is the first QUESTION. Why do I have two roms? Is this first so called NVID rom? So I have to flash my prophet twice? And both time with and under instructions of "update package"?

Thanks

Bojan
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] duato:
1st,there's no such kind of stupid questions :) just matter of impatient to do something,but not fully prepare & lack of proper guidelines..it happen to all newbie, including me :D

back to your curiosity..

regarding to this new method, you just do the HardSPL (included in the update package) once !!

REMEMBER..check your device either it is G3 or G4..if done wrong,may brick your device..

after doing hardSPL,you're ready to use any WM 6 rom for prophet..

leave those Temp.zip file..

You just need 1 rom only..in your case,you pick to choose Transfomer.

Inside the folder,it have Os.nb file & ExtRom folder, this 2 file is needed to create nk.nbf file,which is the rom that you need to flash using RUU (Rom Update Utility).

follow all the guideline on how to use the update package properly & you're done :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] klebsiela:
Thanks

Thank you. I knew that there will be someone nice enough to reply. Of course I didn't quite wait for it but started with flashing...

So I executed HardSPL.bat which opened some dos screen so I followed commands and my prophet turn white and than I flashed it with step 1 Prophet_PV_Temp. (although it isn’t necessary...)

Two issues though:

1) My dos window didn’t close by itself. On the screen wrote only initializing.... and the color of prophet window turn white. So I don’t know for sure if it performed hardspl or not. Is this normal? How can I find out if this was done?

I should know this before flashing it with transformer i believe.

2) After flashing I hardreseted the prophet but I cant see any changes at all in OS. It is still German version of WM5. The only change is in SPL number when prophet starts. From SPL 2.15.0001 has changed to 2.G4.4PDA. Is this normal?

OK, enough for now. I will wait with flashing until I’m sure that the device performed SoftSPL and HardSPL.

Bojan
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] jayteecie:
yes you've hardSPL'ed it already. just follow the instructions and you'll be okay!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] klebsiela:
Thanks but....

I started with steps above and I soon discover something strange. In " Making the Extension Rom" says :

-open the Create Extended Rom\extrom-base\extende_rom.nb with winimage.exe and you will see a file inside it says : "You should put your files here".

Well I opened it but I dont have "You should put your files here" file but only the file Config.txt.

Picture:

If I open it there is:

LOCK: Enabled

CAB: \Extended_ROM\HTC Home.cab

CAB: \Extended_ROM\PHM Registry Editor.cab

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Crystal Oxios Memory.cab

CAB: \Extended_ROM\HTC Action Screen.cab

LOCK: Disabled

RST: Reset

What should I do with this Cofig.txt? Erase? Ignore , leave and just continue with further steps?

So I'm waiting for kind response for continuing with flashing...

Bojan
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] duato:
klebsiela is a name of a virus which cause from food poisoning?..if i'm not mistaken :)

just delete the config.txt..

inject ExtRom inside it..

(all files inside the ExtRom must be 'Read-only' before you inject it)

now you may proceed with the rest of the guideline..
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] klebsiela:
OK

Thanks, I've already did that. Is it possible that an hour ago in your post I noticed that you addressed me pal and asked how old I'm? And now this stuff is gone and you asking me about klebsiela?

So I believe that I'm quite old (to old?) and if things are not like in tutorials I become concerned. But now everything is fine. I'm on duty now(hospital) and must wait till tomorrow to flash my prophet.

About klebsiella from wikipedia - you were near though:

Klebsiella is a genus of non-motile, Gram-negative bacteria with a prominent polysaccharide-based capsule.Frequent human pathogens, Klebsiella organisms can lead to a wide range of disease states, notably pneumonia, urinary tract infections, septicemia, Ankylosing spondylitis, and soft tissue infections.

Bojan
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] duato:
yup i did,but then i delete it.yeah that right (bout the klebsiela) :D why dont use staphylococcus or salmonella LOL :D just kidding..quite tension round here,because everybody is busy searching for upgrading their device :)

smile on my face when i see someone using those terminology as i'm also work at hospital as laboratory technologist..

this forum site fit me well,like it much..lots to learn though..

back to our ROM discussion..hope you doing flashing well tomorrow

cheers & happy flashing..
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
Very nice varanusvincent, I will update the first post with your link :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] varanusvincent:
thanks man. I am waiting your ROM.. Really curious. Wondering what you have done this time.:)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] duato:
saya juga faham means I also understand

@varanusvincent

walaupun bahasa indonesia,orang malaysia pun juga faham..terima kasih ya :)

means

even its in indonesia languages,we malaysian people also can understand it, thank you:D

cheers
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] varanusvincent:
Yups.. similiar languange.. :D. Even not 100 % the same one.But I hope it works good for Indonesian and Malaysian people. Do you speak chinese too?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] duato:
Sori :) i dont speak chinese..

little differences but easily understand ,it will be a good effort for newbie to understand it better. especially from indonesia & malaysia

maybe one day you will be the apprentice to make rom in malay language :D