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[LG V20 Questions & Answers] tsiglas:
Im coming from Lg g4 dual to LG V10 dual to Mate 8 to S7 edge dual and 2 Note 7 duos recalled...now im with V20 dual sim...

What do i say....i dont know...i had loved every phone that passed my hands in last 1,5 years...Nothing is going to be like Note 7....but...this phone is close enough...i like it...i ? the full package ?...the only thing that i was expecting to be better is the camera...and please dont get me wrong...i dave used to have the phone with the best camera in the market...Now i have one of the 5 best cameras in the market...nothing less nothing more....and please lets wait for the first updates comes through...

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Im coming from Lg g4 dual to LG V10 dual to Mate 8 to S7 edge dual and 2 Note 7 duos recalled...now im with V20 dual sim...

What do i say....i dont know...i had loved every phone that passed my hands in last 1,5 years...Nothing is going to be like Note 7....but...this phone is close enough...i like it...i ? the full package ?...the only thing that i was expecting to be better is the camera...and please dont get me wrong...i dave used to have the phone with the best camera in the market...Now i have one of the 5 best cameras in the market...nothing less nothing more....and please lets wait for the first updates comes through...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] masondoctorjt:
I love my v20. There is nothing wrong with the screen. Sure if you love exaggerated colors then amoled is for you, but the V10 and 20 screens are very good. I use the Ir blaster a lot. Notes don't even have them anymore. And LG keeping a removable battery keeps me buying their phones. Oh, and it's fast, never a stutter even going on 15 days of uptime!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Need to get your eyes checked. The LG is OK. Even after tweaking it is OK. Not worth the $800. Samsung's screen are a lot more accurate if you choose the appropriate mode. We're just lucky between comfort view and the color picker that each of us can get it something satisfactory.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Techweed:
I have had several Notes over the years. I only got the LG V20 because of the Note 7 debacle.

I am actually happy that happened. I love this phone.

We are not "lucky" we have those options. If that's the case then Samsung owners are "lucky" to have the display mode adjuster too. If they didn't they'd be in adaptive display or vivid mode and it would look like sh&t.

Because of comfort mode adjustments and screen color adjustments available to us, we can make our LG screen look like whatever we want. I've adjusted it and it looks fantastic.

I have never kept the colors of any device, phone, tv, or monitor, the way they come out of the box. This is no different.

The LG btw is noticeably faster with launching applications than any Note device I had (which is all but the original one.) I used to think people exaggerate Touchwiz lag, nut I didn't know any better because all I had was Samsung phones.

The only thing LG can fix (and it can be done with a software update) is adjust the auto settings for the camera. The pics are a bit cool. But the manual mode with AEL pressed and sliding the color bar fixes that quickly and easily.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] *Omnipresent*:
No phone is perfect. With that being said, i am very pleased with my overall experience with the V20. For $570 (after $200 trade in) + free B&O earbuds, it is the best phone for my needs. Removable battery, expandable storage, MIL-STD-810G transit drop protection trumps water resistance imo. Secondary Display, IR blaster, FM radio, quad dac, 24-bit/48kHz audio recording, fantastic manual controls for the camera's audio and video, are all icing on the cake. A no nonsense industrial design that is both functionally tough and fingerprint resistant. And it runs Nougat out of the box silky smooth. Yeah, for $570 the V20 is the sleeper hit of 2016 imo.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Huh? I made a typo but concurred with your opinion that we are fortunate to have the color picker with comfort view. Otherwise it'd look just as crappy as a Samsung phone out of the box.

As for the camera, yes they are cool. You do know if you hit the film icon I believe film 5, 7 and 8 will get you more accurate and warmer pictures. Otherwise the nitpicks on the camera imo are overrated. Ive been comparing pics between my note4. AB'ing them and they both come out quite well. The galaxies have aggressive sharpening but when you zoom in to try and see certain details they both have comparable positives and negatives. I will say that in certain scenes, those with a bright light source like from sun or light source that picking a certain focus is very important so you don't get overexposed on the light or everything darkened too much.

Other than that, I wish the headphone jack wasn't loose and that the DAC had more granular settings. Like us choosing impedance mode. It is inconsistent.

Hoping the LGV30 uses top shelf amoleds and FFS speakers. And a more consistent software experience OOTB. can't believe the disparity between models including the unlocked version. Like auto brightness and system ui tuner. Ridiculous.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
Or the FM radio...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Yeah. That too. And I'd rather the phone be thicker just past the camera hump. Use the extra thickness for front facing stereo speakers, extra antennas and be the first OEM to bring back extended batteries. Yeah I said it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
Well heck, if we're going to be wishing...

Make the thing out of plastic; this "premium materials" crap is just that: crap.

And, yeah, make it thicker for more battery!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Plastic? While we are really wishing I want a rubber mid frame all the way around. Built in case yo.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
Hell with that... I dig the metal. Coming from plastic phones I got tired of it
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] diamantericos:
Y'all people too picky ever since the v10 lg has been the only device I can live with without rooting over clocking . and now with the v20 I'm all good. My only issue is my external storage isn't even showing up . but thats a hardware issue . other than that phone is awesome . screen is an improvement
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] HopelesRomantc91:
Personally, my only major complaint is battery life. It barely gets me through a day of my normal usage (playing games, browsing dank memes, etc). And if I go just slightly heavy, it won't get through the day. I've often thought that if I could get the HTC 10 with a 5.5-5.7 inch screen, that would be almost guaranteed to be my favorite phone in the world. I had the One, and the One (M8), and those were probably my two favorite phones ever, with the Droid Turbo coming probably tied with the M8 for 2nd (based on how much I loved it at the time). I've also had Galaxy S4, Droid Turbo 2, Asus Zenfone 2, HTC Vivid (my first smartphone, it was pretty great), Lumia 1020 (loved that phone, I should've kept it longer), and now the V20. There battery life is really sub par. If I could figure out how you guys are getting 6 hours SoT and get that myself, that would be enough, but I can barely squeeze 4 out of mine. I do prefer the fingerprint scanner on the front, but it's not a HUGE deal to me. I'm honestly probably gonna sell my V20 and buy a LeEco Le Pro3 or Max2 (still debating on that).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
I have unlimited data. Use LTE almost exclusively. It gets better battery, much better, than wifi at my house. And I have a 90MB/s wifi with three antennas. The disparity is much bigger than the note4, the first phone with power enveloping for LTE. I also don't use the second screen often. Sometimes I use it when I listen to music but other than it's worthless to me. And gaming on the v20 sucks down some juice. I tried to blow through it on light and heavy 3d gaming. Light will get me about 5h SOT, maybe. Heavy knocks it down to 4h. Adreno 530 isn't as efficient as I thought it would be. We are into what 3rd gen of phones with quad HD and the GPUs still aren't knocking it out of the park. Hell iPhone plusses with power vr tpu's you would think could do better SOT than Android with same games. Nope. iPhone battery life is overrated. My note4 only has 20mah more battery and still hangs with the v20. Actually better when watching videos. But every other scenario they're equal. It's probably the second screen sucking your battery. I only get 6h SOT tops with it on. And that is light usage. At home. On LTE. With it off, add another 1h+ easy.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] HopelesRomantc91:
What's funny though is that it's largely LG's fault, for not optimizing the phone as well as it could have, and not giving a bigger battery. I've seen tests on several phones comparable in specs that do better on battery life. But I've always believed the PowerVR graphics to be generally superior to all others. It seems every time I see benchmarks, the comparable generation of PowerVR chips or perform the rest. But we'll see what Qualcomm has to offer with the next gen being 10nm.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Techweed:
Regarding the bolded, sorry, I misinterpreted you. Thanks for the tip for the film icon btw, I didn't even think of looking at that.

My headphone jack feels very secure, so that's the first I'm hearing about that. I do wish we had more control over the sound. I'm surprised they don't have a built in system wide equalizer.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] tonyevo52:
Not a bad phone, but i only got it because of the N7 fiasco... This thing is gone though when the S8 edge comes out or word of a new note series... But i can't see keeping this phone for a year... Overall great phone, im just a Samsung junkie now.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
What if it had a great amoled and stylus with accompanying wacom digitizer?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
What if instead of costing $760USD... It cost $200 more?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
LG couldn't do that if they wanted to. They don't have e rough marketshare or prominence.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mingkee:
Coming from G4 and V10, V20 is much better except the cam.

It works much better with Bose Sound Sport with DAC on than V10.

Unlike others, mine white is a bit warmer (6700k vs 7700k). It was so purplish at first, but now it looks better.

Banner display is my favorite.

Press-out back cover is a nice feature which reminds me HD2 but it has "open button"

Type C USB is a brand new for me but I think it's not loose like V10 (the cable disconnected without your notice).

Speaker is fine, but I keep volume not too loud to prevent damage.

140k Antutu isn't bad at all for 820.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Ashk91:
Guys i think I've posted this post all over xda but I've yet to see a good comparison, so I came to ask the guys who didn't love the V20.. What do you guys think of the huawei mate 9? Both of them are the same price in my country $585.

V20 will be released in December for me which is pissing me off (due to old processor now), and huawei will be released at the same time.

Did you guys ever check the mate 9?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mlctulsa11:
Coming from the Note 7, I am very impressed with the V20. I actually like it better than the Note 7 - hard to believe. I would never have tried an LG phone - thank you Samsung. I will probably never go back to a Galaxy phone again - this phone and UI is that good.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
+1 on LG's U/I

IDK why a lot of bloggers/sites knock LG's U/I,it's as if there just blindly stating an opinion w/o even using LG's phones.

Double-Tap to wake/sleep has been adopted by other mfgs & just recently implemented by none other than Google on the Pixel line-up.

And how cool is the nav bar customizing?

Those two features alone make it my favorite U/I,leaps & bounds over anything else on the market...............
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Techweed:
Same here. I had to return the Note 7 and temporarily went to an S7 edge, but the edge screen, while I had experience with it because I used the s6 edge+, was getting on my nerves. It was just too close to the bezel and my fingers would always touch the screen even though I was super careful not to.

So I considered the v20 because of its larger, flat screen. And despite some reviews that weren't giving it as high scores as Samsung's, I gave it a shot. I have T Mobile on demand so I had the option of switching.

I am now convinced that a lot of these "pro" reviewers are idiots. Thank goodness the Note 7 was a bust. This phone is fantastic. It's blazing fast. The screen after a bit of adjustment is brilliant despite not being OLED. It's much quicker than any Samsung phone I have used. You can see it online being neck and neck with the fastest phones available (iPhone 7 plus and Pixel) and those are phones are made by the software writers themselves so they better be fast!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] ArborRes:
V20 is a fantastic phone. It's slim but robust. It is the only premium phone that still supports replaceable battery and expandable memory options. The display is as good as I need/want it to be. I use ADW launcher with Circular launcher and have no problem with software or performance. I use Lux software to get dimmer when needed, but love how V20 is bright even in sun light conditions. The sound is definitely very good, especially with a good pair of ear phones, including the B&O earphone that came as a bonus (not the best but very decent). Phone, WiFi and LTE function very well. Battery, while not as long lasting as I would like, still lasts as long as Note 7 for the most part, and I always have a back up batter ready to take over. The only less than satisfying experience with this phone has been in the camera department. I love the wide 135 deg angle support for larger group photos, and it takes great photos in normal lighting conditions. In a bit darker condition, however, I find it less satisfactory than Samsung's recent models in automatic mode. In manual mode, you have better adjustment possibilities, but you really have to fiddle around to get the best shot. Software processing of the photos is less than optimal, imho. Overall, though, this is a great phone. If they focus on improving the camera for low light conditions, it can be the best phone period.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Because lg's ui looks outdated and has some quirks. I don't k ow which phone they started using this ui. G5/v10 perhaps? Played with a g5 last night and it was very similar to the v20. They did a great job optimizing it and making it more accessible and intuitive. I played with the g2 or g3, can't remember which and the ui was terrible. This new 5.0 version whatever they call it is nice. Fast, consistent, accessible, easier to.fond or.change stuff and similar to stock in many ways. There are a few things I like about touchwiz but it's such a resource hog that customizing it is a necessity.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] icestreaker:
We must have bought different phones, yet they are the same.

You complain about battery, my phone has gone 24 hours before needing a recharge. No, this was not in sleep mode, nor battery save mode, this was in modes where I was playing videos, streaming music, checking email, playing games, and using the heavy setting on GPS.

As far as the case, if you don't like the feel but want to keep the color, there are ~$10 clear cases on Amazon that gives you a decent grip and makes the phone easy to hold.

In one car I have, there is a car charger that when used with a coax cable for music (it doesn't have bluetooth) for ANY phone but mine, there is static and white noise in the background. With mine it started out that way but once I turned the DAC setting on, it went away, and I had clear music and GPS signals coming through.

As far as volume, I have always had to turn the volume UP to get where I can hear it. With this phone, I always have to turn it down! This is based on external speakers I use and keep at a standard level of sound. With those standard levels, I have always had to turn the phone volume to it's max before it was clear, now I have to turn the volume down to about the 2/3 else it will be too loud.

As for performance, I have never seen any lack of performance in the apps. No lag, no need to reboot because of a frozen phone.

I do agree with you on the skin. The LG Skin is not easy to use, but I also have Nova Launcher, so it's not a big deal.

My only major complaint against the phone is the fact my carrier is AT&T which means the bootloader is locked and rooting the phone is not going to come soon. As far as phone calls, I get clear signals, I have measured the data signal at 100Mg/s where a friend's Sprint phone was only able to measure 10Mg/s: I certainly can't gripe about those.

I have not had many gripes with the phone, the ones I have had are trivial. Maybe you should consider getting your device repaired. Sorry, but all the complaints you have simply don't show in this phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] jinkerz9430:
For me, the fact that it has: removable battery, IR blaster, aluminum body, dual camera (one with 16mp)>>> allows you to manually adjust focus, it can last at least 5 hours of video in 1440p (already tested it and it lasted 5 hours and 13 minutes using full brightness, auto brightness off, wifi on and speaker at maximum level, but it might be because i let the blanket on top of the phone and it kind of got very hot because of the blanket, so it might last somewhat longer), IF IT IS ROOTABLE TOO! >> Thanks H918 (althought i still very disappointed with tmobile)>> also since my first device came defective i had to reorder a new one (because tmobile made a mess). If one can easily replace parts ( one of the easiest on 2016 if not the easiest one since it is not completely sealed >>>THANKS!) and honestly there is a long list to go in favor , including the IPS screen which i rather since all my samsung galaxy S and notes developed burn-in image. For me, all of these & more are in favor to the factors that influence on my decision about purchasing a phone.

Sure, the camera was little of a let down for me (such as zooming in makes it look like oil pinting) but everything else worked perfectly. (EXCEPT for the signal and random reboots >>> my first LG V20 came defective, still waiting for my second>> backordered since november 1st).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] dricacho:
That many phones over 6 months, geez something's wrong with you. LOL Maybe you need a different hobby. I stay with 1 phone every 24 months because I have better use of my money.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Techweed:
If you have T Mobile on Demand you can switch to the top level phone available for between 30 and 35 a month 3 times every 12 month period. They way I see it, I will always be paying that amount even if I kept a phone for 2 years. At the end of the 2 years, I would get another phone and start the monthly payments all over again, only I would have been stuck with the same device that entire 24 month period. And while I am able to now keep that device, it's 2 years old so its resale value is greatly diminished/battery doesn't hold a charge as well/generally behind the times, etc.

It only makes sense to pay off a phone (one shot or monthly) if you plan on keeping it beyond that 2 year period.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Battery doesn't diminish if you have easy access to it. Fine for people who don't mind sealed phones, planned obsolescence and filling landfills. My note4 and V20 are going nowhere.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
+1 Exactly

That's precisely the point,no harm in switching up/trying the latest/greatest,lest you keep a phone for longer than your traditional installment plan.

Besides,if some of the folks here have environmental concerns,the trade-in phones are repurposed/resold,for waranty servicing/parts/insurance claim replacement/etc......
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] dricacho:
But you are paying sales tax on each new phone you're getting regardless. You know where your money is going, or not going. Waste of money IMO. But that's just me. ;)
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] nicholb:
Nope, you pay tax only on each lease payment. Say you JoD to a new phone after 6 months. You have only paid 1/4 of the sales tax on the full phone price. The payments are based on 1/24 the phones price. So as long as you normally don't keep a phone longer than 2 years the cost is the same or less, and you get a new phone up to 3 times a year.

If you keep your phone longer than 2 years you just run the 18 month lease out and make the final buy out at the end. You still pay the same as if you just financed the phone or bought it outright. The only difference in this scenario is that you have to make the last 6 payments all at once, but the total cost is the same.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Techweed:
You don't pay sales tax upfront for each device with T Mobile On Demand.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] hanskey:
I'm not completely satisfied, but this is the best sounding device for music I've ever had the pleasure of listening to, so no, definitely not disappointed. There's a myriad of issues, as with ALL phones, but nothing that causes me disappointment.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] netgar:
Best tmobile phone on the market w/ available root + awesome development.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] kauliaris:
Hi all,

I'm still with an LG G3 and have decided to go for the v20. So I came over here to see wht probelsm the phone could have I could not live with.

And I'm not changing my mind.

For me, the LG G3 has an amazing camera and the V20 is better so no worries.

The removable battery is a must for me. Dont care about waterproofing, never had and never will as long as I can swap batteries on the go.

With the G3 I have two batteries from day one and use them all the time. If you complain about battery life with a removable battery when a second one costs like a tener on ebay its your fault guys not the phones'.

Add to that the FM radio, IR blaster and large screen and you have a winner.

My only problem is the second screen. I'd rather have a full 6" phone with the same dimensions and no second screen.

If on top of the 6" display it also had front firing speakers I'd be over the moon.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] evo4g63t:
I love my v20, there isn't another device on the market that I would switch to.

The only device I would potentially switch to is a note 8 but that really depends on Samsung, I want a decent sized battery if I am going to switch to non removable and it would need to be rootable because Samsung puts so much garbage on their phones.

I'll stick to the v series as long as the battery remains removable. With the success of the g6 though I am not very confident they'll do this since LG has seemingly decided to go mainstream and be like every other phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Billy Madison:
Almost 1,5 years down the road and still only V30 or maybe G7 seem capable to replace ol' good V20