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[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] eddyve:
3 questions about Hard SPL

As I am not an expert in cooking and making new roms and I as was used to the old method, I have 2 questions about this new method

1) When I use this Hard SPL method, can I still go back to the old method and to my old configuration of SPL and IPL?

2) Can I use the new upgrade method (using nk.nbf files of course) with my old configuration SPL 2.20, IPL 2.09 (maybe this question has been asked before, if so I'm sorry to post)

3) If you have done a hard SPL, would this be a problem if you have to return your Prophet to the store in case of a repair?

thx
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] kancrutt:
@varanusvincent

thanx, sangat membantu :D
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bsmllh99:
thanks

terimakasih kepada bapak @varanusvincent

.. thank you to Mr @varanusvincent ..

hehe..
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
I explained a bit about the old and new upgrade method in post #64 of this thread, perhaps it helps you out a little.

1) Yes you can. After flashing your Prophet to HardSPL, it only stays resident untill you flash another SPL. Most official ROM's are doing that by default.

BTW: HardSPL doesn't stand in the way to upgrade the old way,; it only makes the new way possible!

2) The new way uses the RUU. This Update Utility checks your CID by default. So, if your device is CID locked (as most are) you would need an adapted RUU specific for your device. By replacing the SPL for HardSPL, the check is bypassed. One RUU will serve us all! That is why it is not likely that your old config will work with this new RUU method, but you sure can try. If it doesn't work, the only thing is an errormessage on the screen of your PC.

3) It could be a problem, but as explained above, you can easily flash back to the official Vendor ROM.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] eddyve:
Thanks for your answers rondol. It is what I expected, but I was not sure.I have another question. I made a nbf file from the touch XB os.nb version and according to what I read I tought that I would have more storage room after flashing the rom with the new update version, but it is not. I have exactly the same storage space left as before.

Did I read wrong or did I do something wrong?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
I leave this question to someone else. Though I have a good understanding of the technique, I haven't any experience "in the field" with the new method of flashing.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] jay_d213:
i cant find the extrom folder. pls help.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
how big is the touch XB os.nb ?! read the first post . :) if it's 58,368 then you wont gain any storage with this new method.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Qtek s200 G4

i wish only know if can I install WM6 on my qtek s200 G4 phone? please help me!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
please someone can help me?

please someone can help me?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] koenie:
I'm getting this error when starting the HardPSL batchfile:

Initializing..cerun: failed to execute program (30123)

Then the batch file starts the ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe automatically,

updates is performed with success.

but i still see:

IPL 2.10.0001

SPL 2.10.001

GSM 02.69.21

OS 2.20.7.34

no sign of hardspl
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Qtek s200 with G4

i wish only know if can I install WM6 on my qtek s200 G4 phone? please help me!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wilson77:
same issue with me

I am also facing the same issue when i was doing hard reset and running batch file at the first screen (Tap here to blah blah)....but then i tried this batch file after doing the inital customisation..and then it worked fine.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] koenie:
Thanks for replying wilson77, but what do you mean by doing the initial customisation? Running ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe en then the batch-file?

I tried that but with the same result

Update: sorry i must have misread your answer, you ment the initial setupscreen, seems to be working fine now, much appreciated your help!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] klebsiela:
YES

Yes You can! I just did!

Just read old posts.

Klebsiela
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wlvrn:
hello!

I'm trying to follow this guide but I'm facing a serious problem and I dont't know what to do.

when I execute "HardSPL.bat" it appears the error "The system cannot execute the specified program" and the procedure crashes (the usb connection is lost and the prophet screen stays blank).

do you know what's the problem? what can i do?

thanks for your help
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
have i to unblock something?

To upgrade have i to unblock something or i can only to upgrade directly the rom?? The wm6 have to be in spanish or is no important?

Sorry i'm a newbie

I've a G4 qtek s200 spanish
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Have I to do to ulock the cid?

Please someone can just to say me if Have I to unlock the CID or something else before to install wm6 with a C4 qtek s200?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] anubis.genix:
is there a way to upgrade my prophet under vista with mobile device center?

i'm using xp and active sync at home but right now i'm forced to use my laptop running with vista :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Have I to unlock the CID or something else before to install wm6 with a C4 qtek s200?

Please someone can just to say me if Have I to unlock the CID or something else before to install wm6 with a C4 qtek s200?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
In my case, the old method worked allright, but I could only use one specific RUU to downgrade, all others crashed. I found it on this forum in the "Shipped ROM section" just picked the NVID version and it worked by accident. I can't explain and I just don't know if i will work on evry PC. Perhaps I'm just a lucky guy.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Have I to unlock the CID or something else before to install wm6 with a C4 qtek s200?

Please someone can just to say me if I have to unlock the CID or something else before to install wm6 with a C4 qtek s200. Please help me

Giuseppe
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] madness84:
I use an imate Jamin, all i did to upgrade was run the HardSPL.bat then the RUU
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
C4 Mobile?

Have you a C4 Mobile too? very thanks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
Sorry, where is the folder that I've to inject? Is in: \Update_Package\Create Extended Rom\extrom-base? I don't understand if I've to download the WM6 out of this site before to install it. Thanks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wqqar:
Yea... like I've downloaded Crystal v 5.1, There is no Ext Rom folder in it.

What should I do ???
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] arioch1980:
I've the same problem.... Please someone can help me?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gullum:
the extended rom is inside the nk.nbf

first time and only first time you flash do step 1 and 2.

if you download a finished nk.nbf like Shadow or Crystal then step 3 and 4 are not needed.

step 3 and 4 are only needed if you flash a rom that has been made the old way exsample all my Prophet Touch roms
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] joelbdsouza:
a new commer

I am a new commer and have some questions to whhich I did not find any answers on wiki

I have a imate jamin which is about 2 yrs old now and never been upgraded I was wanting to know if I could upgrade it to crystal 5.1

IPL 1.00

SPL 1.00.0000

GSM 1.14.20

OS 1.0.927

Rom 1.0.9.27 WWE

Rom date 11/23/05

Radio Version : 01.14.20

protocol verson: 4.0.13.25

Ext Rom : 1.0.9.115

Also what is meant by

IPL ?

SPL?

GSM?

OS?

Radio ver?

Protocol ver ?

would really appertiate if someone could help out.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Spacekeez:
yes you can. the upgrade guide is in the first post.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] joelbdsouza:
thanks

Thanks Spacekeez .

I read the guide (new) and also I read it from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354110

this says of transfering 3 files in the jumpspl folder to the root directory .

do I have to do this step as from the information on the site I have come to know mine is a G3 device. or does the HARDSPL do it automatically for me ?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Spacekeez:
i'm not sure because i didn't flash any korand roms and i don't own a G3. but in the new way of flashing you need hardspl just once. anyone should please correct me if i'm wrong. for questions regarding WM6 Korand WWE 2.3 rom you should go to the corresponding thread.

the update_package (1st post in this thread) has a batch file that'll do the hardspl for you. if the SPL version has changed to 2.G3.4PDA this means you have successfully hardspl your phone.

continue installing your desired rom through RUU (Rom Update Utility) for G3.

you might wanna take a look at this too: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=353547

good luck with flashing and enjoy your new born prophet!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] xdaownertoo:
HELP needed!

hello,

at this time i´m i used the hardspl.bat for the first time and now the program shows me an error: cerun: failed to execute program (30123).

I started from the WM5 step1 version (because habituation..) on xda.

What should i do now: cancel the RUU or execute (is waiting for my choice)?

:eek: :eek:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
try to put your upgradefolder in the rootdirectory (C:\) of your PC. Most likely it will run.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] meykou:
I execute hard spl but my spl do not change
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] chagua:
i have this problem while i try to atempt to

when i try to load the image file it dosnt apear in the program also dosnt appear the dialog when it says delete this file could any one confirm if the tutorial does work what i am missing
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rasa:
Please Help Me:(

hi all,

i download the Update_Package

and finsihed the HardSPL

and when i came to 3 steap then i get trouble ,

i open the Create Extended Rom\extrom-base\extende_rom.nb with winimage.exe and but i could not see the instruction Screenshopt of winimage.exe like i suppose to deleted"you will see a file inside it says : "You should put your files here". Delete that file!"

CAN SOME ONE TELL ME WHY I CAN'T SEE THAT "You should put your files here". Delete that file!"

can some one explain why i can't make 3 steap of the Upgrade Guiding procress,

anybody got problem like me.

thanks :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gponiris:
hi friends.i follow the steps(using transformer1.0) on my m600 without hardspl and i stuck in 3colour mode with ipl 2.10 and spl 2.10...please help..i can't understand what 2do now :( :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gponiris:
where can i find the NVID(no vendor) AKU2.2 rom for WM5?the link is broken?:confused:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] omarachkar:
wm6 rom setup file

can someone give me the link to download the wm6 rom tks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gponiris:
try this--->

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Contributed_ROMs
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rasa:
plz help:(((

hi all,

i download the Update_Package

and finsihed the HardSPL

and when i came to 3 steap then i get trouble ,

i open the Create Extended Rom\extrom-base\extende_rom.nb with winimage.exe and but i could not see the instruction Screenshopt of winimage.exe like i suppose to deleted"you will see a file inside it says : "You should put your files here". Delete that file!"

CAN SOME ONE TELL ME WHY I CAN'T SEE THAT "You should put your files here". Delete that file!"

can some one explain why i can't make 3 steap of the Upgrade Guiding procress,

anybody got problem like me.

thanks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gponiris:
u must check the 'TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR' and u will see it at ur right.if u don't see the file u must delete then keep...walking with the next steps ;)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rasa:
i ahve loook through "'TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR'" and i jusat got config.tex nothing. it that look normal and move to next or i need to know some more ,

plz'
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rasa:
i try my best like u said

i ahve loook through "'TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR'" and i jusat got config.tex nothing. it that look normal and move to next or i need to know some more ,

plz'
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] WhiteWizard:
ROM contruction or ROM Update?

I don't understand this instructions. It seems instructios to build a new ROM, and after you build it, you flash it.

But once I have the ROM ready for flashing, why can't I publish it for other Prophet user to use it to flash directly, like in the old upgrade guide?.

I want to upgrade to Prophet ShadoW 1.0 (Touch Edition) , I it seems to me that it was CONSTRUCTED using this guide metod, but now that is build I should be able to use PDA Viet Step 1 and then just Prophet ShadoW 1.0 (Touch Edition).

I'm confused, any help would be apreciated.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] pedro_Port:
Failed to do the WM6 Upgrade

I´ve decided to ugrade my rom to the Korand 2.5, and i´ve followed the procedures described in this post. I´ve completed steps 1 and 2 and no problems occured. After that i jumped to step 5 because the Korand 2.5 rom that i´ve downloaded was the nk.nbf file. I copied the file to Update_Package\Update Utilities folder and the i´ve ran the ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe and followed the instructions o the sreen. After the status bar reached 100% my Prophet screen turned tricoulor and i don´t know what to do now.

Is there anybody that could help me with this problem?

Thanks

Pedro
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gponiris:
continue the steps..and at least if this method is not working,try the classic method.so..don't panic:cool:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] eucurto:
and what about the "new" downgrade process?

I have done the HardSPL and then flashed a WM6 ROM (Prophet Shadow). Everything went well.

If i want to go back to my original WM5 ROM what do i have to do? (This procedure is not described in the "New WM6 Upgrade Guide".)

Do i just use the PDA viet temp, and then flash the ROM i want?

And what about SPL? Do i have to do anything to it?

Thanks everyone.

eucurto
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] lmorse:
Upgrade Failed- any advice please

Hi,

I followed these instructions, however it failed about 5 minutes in (I believe it may be because I had Goodlink software installed). So now I am trying to recover, but so far I have had no luck. I have not been able to find or run PDAViet, everything else that I have tried needs ActiveSync connection, which obviously cannot connect.

Please help, does anyone have a link to the PDAViet ROMs? Is there some info that I am missing?

Thanks

Lee
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] lmorse:
Active Sync Connection - resolved

I have managed to solve this myself after some experimentation. I had to unplug the USB cable, wait a second or two, and then reconnect to a different USB port on my PC. The computer then recognised the phone.

I was then able to run the appropriate ROM update utility.

Thanks

Lee
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
Just run the WM5 RUU you like, there is no special procedure necessary. If that RUU contains a "normal" SPL, it will overwrite HardSPL.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] MetalRush:
Installation instructions...

I tried to install/upgrade via the instructions in the first posting, but I don't get it quite...

First I try to HardSPL'ing; I get this error message:

"Initializing..cerun: Failed to connect via RAPI"

After that it tries to upgrade. You can see the progress bar go up to 100% (quite fast) and I get stuck at the Qtek 'sky'-screen.

Dead after that...

Also the instructions on step 3:

Really cannot find it... so I am also stuck from this point on. Okay, I'm blond but this is plain stupid...

Can anyone re-write the instructions so the n00bs can also understand the instructions?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] phnikola:
What is the procedure if we want to cook nk.nbf file without Extension ROM?

Should we enter OS.nb image with the same address or not?

Thanks!

----------------------------------------------------------

Never mind, I figured out....

By the way: Great method! Whole process is a lot faster!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
These instructions are already very plain and straight forward. I think it is better to read some more backgroun information about your WM device in general, before you dive into upgrading. Remember that this guide is only ment to help upgrading, it is not a classroom "how does my phone work?"

But to get back to your problem (you wrote about it in several threads...):

Before you can upgrade in this new way you first have to prepare your SPL. You can do that by running softSPL from the rootdirectory of your PPC. You get a white screen on your device. Then connect it to your PC and run the RUU of your choice.

When you are planning on flashing a lot, it is recommendable to install HardSPL. It does the same as JumpSPL, but is stays resident so you don't have to bother with the SPL everytime you want to run a RUU.

To install HardSPL: DON'T FORGET TO RUN JUMPSPL FIRST! You must have the famous white screen first before your run the installer! I have the opinion that in your case you left out this important first step.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] nhbsss412:
thanks alott
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] onesolo:
Back to a Pre-HardSpl rom. It's safe??

Hello guys,

I now have a Post-HardSpl rom, Prophet ShadoW 1.0, but now I want to go back to Pdaviet Mysterious 1.0. Do I have to install the pdaviet temp first?? If yes, after that is ok to update to the Mysterious (or anyother rom pre-hardspl)?? Or should I do anything else...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] whoman:
Help Needed! Got stocked!!

I've done HardSPL step, and then I decided to use a prepared nk.nbf (smart1 ver.1) for my Qtek S200. after running "UPGRADE_ROM.bat" is started to copying files. the process ended with an error!! and it said "unplugged the cable and hard reset the device" so i did it and got stock Qtek sky screen and there\s no activity or progress! The only thing that been changed is my OS ver [2.9.7.24 to 10.1.0.811]. becuase of the problem the device wont connect to activesync and the PC wont recognize it, so the programs in the guide or others dont work! what can I do about it?! how can I bring him back LIFE?!! :confused: :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
First, if you prepared Smart1 V1 (why such an expirimental old ROM?) to a nk.nbf file, why do you run "UPGRADE_ROM.bat"? You should have placed the nk.nbf file in the same folder as the RUU and run that RUU. It seems to me that you have mixed old and new ways of flashing.

To get your device back:

Put your device in bootloader-mode: Press cambutton and the stylus in the reset-hole together. Now you see the tri-colored screen on your Prophet.

Don't connect to your PC yet.

On your PC, DISable "Allow USBconnections in the connection-settings panel. Quit ActiveSync.

Connect your Prophet (still in bootloader) to your PC, ActiveSync won't interfere and it connects like an oridinairy USBdevice.

Now run a official WM5 RUU. Every traditional Step1 will do, but you can use an official ROM from your vendor too.

After that, your Prophet is back to the old WM5 state and you can try to upgrade again (but do your homework this time :p )
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] shazmie:
i couldnt find the OS.nb..help me..

and where is extrom?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
Have you any idea what you are dealing with? If you have no knowledge about upgrading in general, you better read some more before your start. It could save you a lot of trouble.

But for your information: the OS.nb is the actual ROM from the traditional upgrade packages. If the upgrade you want to flash already has the new fileformat nk.nbf (together or not with a RUU) you don't have to convert anything. Just apply HardSPL and go to step 5: run the RUU.

Don't bother about the extROM either before you have some general understanding about these things. Just try a bit around with the basic procedures, the rest will come in time.

Succes!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] shazmie:
i did like wat u said,

but when RUU, ERROR (240):file open

ive done HardSPL..after that?how to make extension ROM.nb if there is no ExtRom folder..

wat am i supposed to do with FILE#2 if i dunno where is OS.nb?just leave it empty?

sorry noob here..i couldnt follow the instruction cause there is no file that im suppost to inject or to add..

* this thread not gonna be until 15 pages if theres no problem with the instruction if its complete/more detail..
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] whoman:
Stock again! panic!

hey tanx, but it doesn't go beyond usb connetion notification on my device!!!

coz ruu says :

sometimes 1: eror 248 utility can't connect!

and else 2: after "current info about your pda (image vers :(nothing!!!) " and clicking the "update to current vers(nothing!!!)",goes to eror 238 file read ,(the update utility can't open requsted file). nothing is on my pure pda and nothing recognize it!

I don know if there is something with ruu or the nbf file or other files involved?

can you link a nvid (no vender) of wm5, step1 or else so I can use it?!?! :p (all the link to rapid share are no longer exist)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hercule18:
Hi,

I have a little problem with the new upgrade method.

The first times i used it it worked near like a charm except when prophet

tried to installed the extended rom, because it seems some files where missing although i putted all of them in the Extende_rom.nb

I tried several things but always with the same result.

Now it's worth as the phone does not launch anymore the Extended rom

installation.

that's make me crazy!!!!

Please

Help!!!

Herc.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] varanusvincent:
you have to make it as read only file...

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Making the Extension Rom.nb (using that 10Mb that we never used)

* go to Update_Package\Create Extended Rom\Winimage Trial and run the winimage.exe

* open the Create Extended Rom\extrom-base\extende_rom.nb with winimage.exe

you will see a file inside it says : "You should put your files here". Delete that file!

* go to the ExtRom folder. (Look at the picture) you will find ExtRom folder in most of the wm6 roms. when you download a wm6 rom, this folder is usually beside the Upgrade_ROM.bat .

* make all the files read only (Select them, right click , then properties and then read Only) <-------Important!! (Updated)

* inject the ExtRom folder

* save the file.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

If not.. it won't install all the files...;)