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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
A bit of guidenance please

_Alex_

I have looked and read all I could find here, although I may have missed it with blurry eyes.

I am having a real tough time getting the ROMS started lately.

I have been looking for different builds and versions and am having no luck once I find one I want to start with.

My first 6.1 ROM that worked the way I wanted is the one I posted and I still use my self.

For it I started with YOUR 6.1 UltraClean.

I downloaded your ROM and took the “Alex.v5.WM61.HTC.302.UltraClean.ROM.beta2.nbh” file and renamed it “RUU_signed.nbh” and put it in the BaseROM folder.

I went through and erased the ROM, SYS, SYS-DELETED, OEM, OEM-DELETED and TEMP folders leaving only the TOOLS and the basic command files for the kitchen, i.e. KAISERKITCHEN.CMD, BuildOS.exe, buildos+package_tools-2.7.exe, KaiserCustomRUU.exe, pkgcommon.dll located in c:\kaiserkithcen. Everything except the packages is erased and replaced with FRESH unused files.

Then I go through the steps.

1.	open “KAISERKITCHEN.CMD”

2.	<c> cook a rom

3.	<b> BuildOS with “buildos+package_tools-2.7.exe”

4.	selected the packages I wanted

5.	Built the ROM with htc rom tool.

6.	set the page pool to 50Mb

7.	Flash 

With yours as a base things worked fine and I got what I wanted.

Since then I have been wanting to try a different build like 19716 as some say the GPS performance is better.

I searched for a 19716 rom and found Dutty’s.

I did the same with his as I did with your UltraClean and renamed it “RUU_signed.nbh”, and put it in the BaseROM folder.

Then I went through the steps as before.

But when I flashed and started I get a hybrid ROM.

It ends up larger then the one before and I left out a couple things, plus I get all sorts of applications I did not install. Plus when I pull up the “about” screen from settings it reads a different ROM version then what it was to be.

I can only assume that yours worked because of its stripped nature. SO my big question is where and how am I going wrong obtaining a “BaseROM”

I was extracting them till you said I should not be doing so but it was no better when I was extracting them
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
_Alex_

May I also make a small suggestion.

I have notices with your Kits, Packages, etc. when they are posted to Megaupload or RapidShare, then only display a truncated file name and for some of yours that are multiple parts, the part number is not displayed so it is hard to figure out which ones you need.

maybe put the Part number in the front so it can eailsy be identified.

Just a suggestion, Thanks :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nushuth:
I have a stupid question...

I'm a polaris owner.

I cannot use your kits because are all for kaiser. I try WM6.1 HTH 3.03 and obviously my polaris does not boot if using it (unlike someone write in another thread) but packages V5.1 works perfectly.

I extract my original ROM from device (using kaiser kitchen) and now i have SYS, OEM and ROM folder.

i need a little help on finding information/tutorial or similar about removing unnecessary files (i notice that you removed something from SYS and from OEM) to obtain a clean system rom kits for my polaris, or how to merge your kits with my extracted kernel and drivers...

thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I've never cooked for the Polaris, so I'm not sure what needs to be changed or merged. So I'll focus on how/what you need to strip.

You can use my folders as a template, using a dual paned file explorer and comparing directories to extract unneeded files. (I prefer automated comparisons, as I'd go nuts if I had to manually compare each folder).

You should be extra careful when doing this, because the Polaris may have extra files that the Kaiser does not, so make sure to familiarize yourself with what I've left in vs what I've taken out.

I suggest you have an OEM-Deleted & SYS-Deleted folder too, to easily put back anything that you shouldn't have removed :D I also copy the original PROVXML and RGU files into the Deleted folders, should I accidentally remove too much.

SYS is somewhat easier/safer to clean out, since it's mostly whole directories removed and not files scattered everywhere.

Use Windiff to compare RGU & XML files to edit out the unneeded keys.

Finally, at the bottom of the OEM tutorial in the FAQ section, I created a page with the Kaiser ROM folder layout. It has some notes on where to find what, but it doesn't go into depth.

If the Polaris forums pick up, maybe I'll even begin hanging out there...

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
I tried to ask this before but was new to cooking and understood less then then I do now (if that is possible :) ) and was not sure how or what to ask.

I have noticed packages showing up in ROMS i have cooked that I did not put in, but that were part of the original ROM.

Am I correct in assuming that if I cook a ROM and decide to add an extra package or two I can use my ROM as the Base ROM and only select the new packages I want, while leaving the rest unselected in the "buildos+package_tools-2.7.exe", then finish the operation as usual and end up with a new ROM with the old packages as well as my new packages as the result ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
It depends on what you're using as a Base ROM.

Adding on top of a base ROM that hasn't been stripped may cause application conflicts between the applications left in the base rom folders (OEM/SYS) and the files being added as Packages.

Based upon our previous conversations, I know that you've done all sorts of crazy things I wouldn't do (like extracting a WM6.1 Dutty ROM on top of my stripped AT&T WM6.0 base ROM), so I wouldn't be surprised that your results can be strange, to say the least :D

It's always best to work with one of my base ROMs or to strip a shipped ROM down to how you want it to be stripped.

Don't get exotic or fancy by dumping one ROM on top of another, unless you really like bizarro hybrids that only work half of the time :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ecltech:
G'Reloc

Alex,

Any advantages of running G'Reloc on your base ROM prior to cooking? I have done this to the HTC ROM and it seems there are some minor stability issue. I'm going to re-cook without the G'Reloc to see if some of the minor issues I have goes away. Just curious what your recommendation, if any. :)

Thanks.

-Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
I tried extracting in the begining as a noob cook.

I am talking about using MY own and doing it exactly as it wae originally but not adding the packages I already have and just adding the one or two extra ones I want.

HOW TRUE

So far I have only had luck starting with your Ultra Clean Roms :)

Which brings me again to my nagging question, How do I strip down a ROM to get a CLEAN BaseROM from which to start with?

And as always THANKS :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
The same process you'd use to extract an OEM package from a ROM can be done to remove all the applications from a ROM.

I've made mention of how earlier in this post, around 3-09-08 to the guy asking about stripping a Polaris ROM.

I've never made a step by step tutorial on how to strip a ROM because to do it right, you need to know a lot more than what a tutorial can give you. It requires some troubleshooting skills, a certain amount of perseverance, alot of time viewing RGU files and sometimes reading strings found in binaries to find other components.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
That is kind of what I was thinking, but not sure.

Sounds fun :)

Thanks :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
I find this particularly with Quickmenu, which I personally find too busy for me so I try not to cook it in (fortunately it's easy to disable after a flash, and it doesn't consume gobs of memory). But if I

move

the Quicmenu folder into Packages-Deleted, I get errors in Build-OS.

Here's an OEM package for HiCalc that I was able to create after following your kitchen instructions. HiCalc is a really fantastic calculator, IMHO, with eleven different built-in sections: Arithmetic, Trig, Matrix, Constants, Finance, Statistics, Tip Calculator, Biorythm, Currency Converter (which can update via the web), and Base Conversion. It is shareware, but I think it is worth the $19.95 price - read all about it here and download the v1.2 trial on my 4Shared space. v2.0 is out but adds only more complex and esoteric formulas.

I will be attempting more OEM packages, and sharing when I know they are functional. This one I know works, and I think it's useful. Hope others do too. If shareware packages are OK on the WIKI, feel free to add it there if you think it is of value.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
OEM Advanced Config v2.1 and PDAlight

Didn't see either of these anywhere, so I've cooked up:

AdvancedConfig_v2_1_0_0 (newest version I've seen, newer than what's currently in kitchen)

PDAlight (use for making your Kaiser into a small flashlight PRN)

Thanks, _Alex_, for making this possible!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ceevee369:
Hi Alex,

Is there any possibility that you could make/find a Tytn II keyboard fix for your Tilt based V5.2's? As explained, neither the TytnII or Tilt keyboard fix are re-setting the Fn + other buttons correctly.

It would be the cherry on the cake to have a TytnII which has NO more performance issues.

I use your V5.2 Home, installed plenty of cabs (flv bundle, macromedia flash etc) which were probably not neccesary, though my "video-performance" , tilting, speed to open other applications is MUCH faster than I ever have seen or experienced. If I would have a cam, I should post it on youtube. (it is faster than the guy from SPBsoft which showed SPB Shell II on his phone !)

Do not ask me what the break through point was, but I simply have a TytnII which is "flying", and I am not exagerating here. How could I help this community to dig in my findings ? Maybe "by coincidene" a perfect mix is found to resolve our common issues? I stick to this set-up untill I buy another PDA one day. For sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
re-setting Fn + assignments on keyboard

Until a fix is found, you might try MagiKB Lite (<trial version)

You can remap keys, add additional symbols, make a long press capitalize a letter or invoke a number without having to hit capslock or the Fn key.

Attached is my Tilt layout - you can easily modify it from within the program setup to change the keys that are different on the Tytn II.

After installing the program, copy 8925.lay into \My Documents\MagiKB Lite. The program comes with a Treo 750 configuration - looking at that helped me create my own layout.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Live Search Package, fresh 3-16-08

Here's another OEM package:

latest version of Live Search (as of today, 3-16-08).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ceevee369:
@ cushcalc

EDIT:

Solution found - response posted in Tytn II keyboard fix thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jbcross:
Thanks Alex !!

I have really enjoyed spending time in the kitchen. I have the luxury of 2 Kaisers so one has been my tester. For what its worth I have found WM 6.1 HTC 3.02 with the Polaris radio 1.58.16.27 offers me the most battery life, reliability and stability. I live in the USA in Northwestern PA but travel extensively up and down the East Coast and it is great. I have tested most all of the roms produced by the pros, but I keep going back to my homemade ones. Partly because mine include only what I want, and I am sure that to a larger degree is that fact that “I” made it (with all you help of course) Alex I appreciate your time and dedication !!!!

After a reset the only cab in need installed are PocketWeather. I get rid of all of stuff that I don’t use. Some extras I have converted and added to your kitchen are: Today Agenda, WKTasks, Vibra Switch, Live Search, TT, GPS Test, and a few others.

Great Fun – Thanks!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ecltech:
RC Mod / Glossy Black Bars

I cooked and installed HTC 3.02 base rom but having an issue using RC Mod and/or the Glossy Black Bar. Anyone else running HTC 3.02 base have this issue? The system just freezes up.

Appreciate any feedback.

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
Same old problem New reason I think

Ok I am still trying to perfect a ROM that has the features I want and nothing I dont.

My biggest problem to date is getting a reliable GPS ROM.

In the search for this I have regressed back to WM6.0 1.60.502

But my latest problem is when it boots it says 3.02 at the bottom of the screen. but shows 1.61 in device info

I know I know clean everything out.

I did. the only thing left in the kitchen was the few files in its root and the tools dir and packages.

I replaced everything else with Alexs 1.61 Rom Folder set.

I have also done the same thing with 1.62 using Alexs 1.62 ROM folder set.

Also How do you change the ROM date in the device info screen
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slimshadee:
Alex:

I know you stated in the ATT "test" 6.1 ROM thread that you are currently staying away from 6.1 ROMS, including preparing stripped ROM folders for use in your kitchen. As a plea, I think that many of us from the USA who are on the ATT network would be interested in cooking with this test ROM.

I can state that from my personal experience, I haven't had ANY issues with building various fast/effective ROMS from your kitchen using your ROM folders created from the 3.02.405 vodaphone ROM.

Your experience in successfuly ripping the 6.0 ATT ROMS down to the bone for use in the kitchen would be invaluable in trying to disassemble the 6.1 test ATT ROM. With that, I ask again that you consider including this ROM in your options for the kitchen.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
Alex - What to use in stripping

Alex -

Not a step by step tutorial because as you mentioned it would be extensive, but

mostly what tools do you use to strip a ROM down to a CLEAN base to cook with.

I can take the shipped roms and extract the OEM, SYS and rom folders

but for things to work I need to strip down a base ROM to start with and to date I have not found a stripped version I am looking for.

Yours are all 3.02 I am looking for something different to try to get better more reliable GPS function.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Already mentioned how when you asked on 03-13-08 It was in a proceeding post on 03-09-08 :D

Just in case you missed it, I've copied the 03-09-08 post and highlighted the names of the tools in red.

Windiff is included in the Kitchen. As for dual paned file explorers, I use FreeCommander.

*edit* You'll also need a decent text editor and I prefer NotePad++. Finally, what I didn't mention in that post, is that Ervius' BuildOS + PackageTools is a great tool for searching for strings, and you should use that for finding stuff in RGU & XML files.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
Ok maybe I misunderstood how to delete items from a rom.

If I change the RGU and PROVXML files in Ervius' BuildOS + PackageTools does that remove them from the finished ROM when cooked and leave you with a more stripped version.

Or do you have to disect the RUU_signed.nbh file to get what you want ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
RGU files only contain registry entries. PROVXML files may contain a bunch of stuff (see OEM Package Tutorial for details). I suggest that you edit them to remove each package, because if you remove them entirely, you will wind up with something less than you wanted and possibly a bad ROM.

You still have all the DLLs, EXEs, Image files and other files that you need to remove, which as suggested, is easiest with a dual paned file explorer.

You may also want to remove the extraneous links that no longer exist from INITFLASHFILES.DAT.

Also, as suggested earlier, use existing ROMs or OEM Packages as your template for any of the above.

e.g., if you know that Adobe Acrobat OEM Package contains certain registry entries, search for those in via BuildOS+PackageTools and edit the appropriate RGU file in your ROM to remove them.

e.g., if you know my UltraClean ROM is something you'd like to emulate, use that for file comparisons using the dual window file explorer.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
So if I read you right, If my BaseROM has Adobe Acrobat and I have the Adobe Acrobat Package selected and select Show editor and remove the RGU, as I procede it will remove Adobe Acrobat from my finished ROM ?

or

For example say I start with your V4 Ultra Clean and want to remove NetCF (for whatever reason), how do I get into the ROM and remove it to make an Ultra Ultra Clean ROM

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Use an existing OEM package, remove the files from all directories (OEM or SYS) using the dual paned file explorer. Then go through all the RGU / PROVXML files to remove similar / identical registry keys.

If you need another example, there is almost very little difference from extracting an application from a ROM to create an OEM package, vs. extracting an application from a ROM to create a cleaner ROM.

If this isn't making things clearer, I'm going to have to let another member answer...

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
I think I see said the blind man.

Let me try it and I will get back with you.

Thanks for helping me find the right bait for the fish :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tony_wh:
Start Menu Freeze Problem

I'm new to cooking roms but am having great fun. Thanks to everyone for their hard work in making it so easy!!

I've found a base rom that I that I like (HTC 3.03 WM6.1 from Alex) and I can cook it and flash it. It seems stable.

The problem is that choosing settings from the start menu causes my TYTNII to freeze so that I have to soft reset. It also means that I can't find a way to acces the owner information/memory etc.

I've tried hard resetting and various combinations of BaseROM (including none at all). I also tried loading another ROM and using file explorer to see what is in the windows/start menu/settings folder (answer: nothing in the one I tried)

Is anyone else having the same problem? (I've hunted around for the last 6 hours and can't find anything either on this site or through Google - I assume it's me:rolleyes:)

Does anyone know how to fix?

Thanks for reading.:o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
I have this problem when removing the voice command out of the folders from the rom I was cooking up with on the bottom of my sig. From what I remember, there is a voice command icon in the settings tab. When I remove voice command, I think the settings want to see voice command, but its not included so it crashes. You might have done something to your rom with something that belongs in settings. Hopefully this gives you ideas on how to debug your problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tony_wh:
I am not worthy to share this forum with you!!! - all fixed! I had included voice commander as a package - it was obviously clashing with something. Everything is working now that I've taken it out of the rom.

Thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Black-Rose:
Hi Alex,

Your previous kitchen was IMO better. It's a pitty, now I get stuff in the ROM I don't want (like quickmenu and other START menu). Can't you make a more basic template? So we n))bs can start of the beginning.

I've read tried what you have wrote earlier to stainlesspc but it didn't work for me...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] naser404:
I am getting an error when ever i try (b) after hitting (c) cook a rom. Is it a vista compatiablity issue ? I am on Vista32bit.

I tried d-clicking the file "buildos+package_tools-2.7" & it seems thats what causing the problem, screenshot attached.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Vista issues have been covered many times in this thread and many others have successfully cooked using Vista. I'm not sure why you're having these problems, but I can't duplicate since I'm no longer using Windows XP or Vista. Perhaps someone else can assist you.

*edit* I've cleaned up this thread to stop the flames. Thanks to all who have stood up for me, but I should have phrased my response in a different way...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rdosti:
For Voice Commander which other files did you remover. Im going to start (trying) to cook a ROM tonight / tomorrow and needed to know as well. How much memory (program) is the best youve got at removing all the extras ?

Any way to push the RAM higher (Free)

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jbcross:
Menu Icons - Where to Cook them in??

I have searched High and Low and cant find this answer any where... But where / how do I put Menu Icons - Like the ones that are built in default for OFFICE and GAMES.

Thanks in advance for your knowledge!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I can't recall, but I believe there is a special .lnk file for directories that have icons. Within that .lnk file, there should be a reference to a DLL and #.

Check my office package to confirm.

If you want/need to find out what icons exist within a DLL, you can use 'reshack' a.k.a. resource hacker.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gai-jin:
I'm getting this same error message, but the last status shows "Dsm = SYS\Fwupdate_lang_0409\ca2b2ea5-4543-43de-8d8c-af784189d50d.dsm"

I don't have the nested OEM folders as gthing did, and I've deleted the c:\kaiserkitchen\packages and re-extracted that from the zip just to be sure I had the directory structure exactly as intended, but still get the error.

What am I doing wrong?

ETA: Hmm... trying to track it down, i found the file referenced was a 0 byte file in ..\sys. That file doesn't appear to be in the original rar, so I'm not sure where it came from. I removed that file and now it's working fine.