yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] appollokillers1:
actually no, u do talk exactly like the first ppl that said, well all 64 bit will run 32 bit and is not much difference in any way, wow, did u copy this from somewhere? that uses more memory? yes, so? is it faster, for sure, if u say is not, maybe u don't understand very well how it works, just showing up some nr and math is not saying anything, look at the pc today, if the 32 bit were so gr8 as u say, wouldn't be all of today pcs on 64 bit, is it? it is faster, no doubts, the way of the memory of a phone is not like on pc at all, all that u use on a phone, the user aplications, run on a VM and neither is going to fill more on 64 coz that's why the zygote is there for, if u have any idea of what that does and why was made for, so i believe u r wrong
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] espeon:
I'm a CS major; I study this stuff, dude. I didn't copy that from anywhere; I wrote it all off the top of my head (with a quick check on my math at one point). I take courses on these and do language/compiler theory research for my university; while this isn't my specific area of expertise, I'm still fairly familiar with it all... and much more familiar with it than you are, I think.

The reason most PCs today are 64 bit instead of 32 bit is because generally speaking, if you have more RAM at your disposal, you can use more RAM to speed up processing - the reason was that most consumer PCs (not to mention servers) needed more than 4 GB of addressable ram, among other things, so the move was inevitable. However, if you look at embedded systems (i.e. consumer routers, "internet of things", etc), they pretty much all use 32bit OSes - since every bit counts, they rarely have more than 4GB of ram, and they don't get any of the benefits.

There are some benefits of using a 64bit OS (there's some instruction set extensions you'd get on ARMv8 and above, which is why Apple's iOS is 64bit now), but with intel's chips, I don't believe there's much performance to be gained simply by switching from 32bit to 64bit - I do believe that although we're running a 32 bit kernel and OS, there's not many (if any) instruction sets we can't use - the chip is an x86_64 chip; it's x86 with x64 extensions, and even though we're running a 32 bit OS, we still have access to most/all of those instructions. Additionally, unless code is specifically written to use those extensions, we won't see any performance enhancements by switching to a platform that can use them, if nothing uses them anyways.

Also, yes, the user stuff does run in a VM - but if you run a 64bit Zygote system, then when it preloads all the Java stuff (classes, mostly), and the system server, then all the pointers it deals with in the ART will be twice as large, and consume more memory - it tends to add up.

I could go more into it all, but more detail than this would be mostly irrelevant and would just derail the thread more. The short answer is just "no, it's a lot of work for very little, if any, benefit". I don't normally give long/well-written posts like this (here, or elsewhere) since I usually have better things to do... but I mean, if this is the response you give when someone tries to give a good answer with some reasons beyond just a "yes/no", then don't expect to get many of them in the future.

If you know so much about the subject, why don't you do it yourself? :rolleyes:
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] appollokillers1:
i am trying, but not android, but trying to work on kde plasma mobile with arch base, but for sure i'm not gonna finish it this life, unfortunately, i really hate android
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] J M L:
I agree with almost everything you said, in that a complete 64-bit system on the zenfone 2 is never going to happen. For a long time I was convinced that there was nothing to be gained by 64-bit on the zenfone 2, and then I did some testing.

I don't remember the exact details, but the bottom line was that binaries running cpu intensive tasks in a Linux chroot were faster when built for 64-bit than when built for 32-bit. The identical binaries were the same speed when I ran them on an i7 based Linux system.

So, the atom in the phone seemed to consistently run a 64-bit test about 20% faster than the same test in 32-bits. The identical test on an i7 did not show a speedup for 64-bits, though it was obviously much faster than the atom. I don't know if non-cpu bound tests would show the same results.

I have no explanation for this, and it was counter to my hypothesis going into the test. It has left me disappointed in the lack of a full 64-bit system on the phone, but I don't worry about it, because I know it will never happen.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] espeon:
There's a handful of things that do perform a bit better (I've done some testing with compression/decompression, and they do perform better when they're built for 64bit), but the thing is - there's not many things in day-to-day use that will be fully using the CPU and would be seeing the benefits of the better performance (aside from perhaps games, but those are already kinda questionable since most aren't made to run on x86). I did some lighter (non-cpu bound) tests and they compared roughly equivalently, so I don't think there'd be any day-to-day improvement for the majority of users. (I haven't ever done any super intensive tests, though, other than file compression/decompression, since that's honestly easiest to check/test).

I mean, there's definitely some benefits to 64-bit builds, but most of them would never be realized (performance improvements would rarely be seen or implemented for, no oodles of ram to use) and the device blobs likely wouldn't play well at all.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] the rockstar 2020:
It's not working on MM stock , always FC.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] abbsshikari:
so someone takes the pain to write you a very detailed and knowledgeable answer and you insult them? Well done sir, Well done. The least you could've done was be kind. You just proved yourself an internet retard.

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that was very informative dude. Thank you
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] blazzer12:
People who use this ROM:

Do you think the audio is a bit weird, like there is too much treble when compared to stock ROM?

Do you think audio quality decreases compared to the stock ROM?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] charliecantsurf:
Thank you very much !
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] pedro1977:
Audio is much better than cm13, and stock, much louder too. Adjust the equaliser settings if you don't like the current ones.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] beamscotty:
Reading your posts gives me a headache, both argumentally and stylistically. Some wise man once said that the way a person speaks or writes is a truthful measure of the speaker/writers personality. I believe this to be correct.

More to the point, I fully agree with the answer given that there would be no tangible benefits of 64-bit software architecture on a otherwise resource starwed hardware platform. Bloat of 64 bit code alone would negate any possible benefits.

I wrote exactly the same thing and a similar answer when someone raised the question for CM12, or was it CM13. Can't remember. Never mind.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] knelis:
Pretty new here but I've noticed small issue when in region with less or bad reception.

Dual sim settings on call and text will change from "ask every time" to the remaining active sim.

When second sim kicks back in again it won't go back to preferred "ask every time".
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] roach9:
This is totally unusable.

I'm going back to stock.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] dcduartee:
I have been using it since it was released as my daily driver
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] xDEV007:
Anyone with stock ROM stalking the forum whom I may ask to try out Oovoo from the Playstore and see if voice & video calls can be placed? (doesn't work for me on CM14) Thanks
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] espeon:
Any specific issues? I personally haven't been having issues, and it doesn't do anyone any good if you don't say anything constructive.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] zenyman:
so how do you change the App Drawer scrolling orientation and is it possible to change the background as well ?

Edit: and also why I can't change the performance profile and a wierd name on it.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] the rockstar 2020:
No problem here too...

I aslo changed the selinux to enforcing , no problems till now...

It's a great rom for me:)
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] kunal_chawla_:
Could you please tell me what benefits it gives to the phone ? I am a noob here.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] UserName_K:
hi, i've try this rom few time ago, was pretty good, the only problem(for me) was battery drain,so i'm back to stock, there are some news about this things?Now i'm using a custom rom based on stock and i need to charge phone once a day, when i've try this one , charge the phone twice a day of course doing the same things
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Zen2209:
Battery Problem

I have noticed a 3 to 4 percent drop in battery life on standby and even more if connected to the internet. Please release an update to solve this issue. Would be a perfect rom if this was fixed :)

(ZE551ML)
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] the rockstar 2020:
U gotta seach the thread for this .

Right now i can only tell u its related to security and privacy.

It was changed to permissive mode to solve some problems but now, here its working fine with enforcing mode too.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] espeon:
If you want to do much with the app drawer/launcher, you're better off with an alternate launcher. If you use the Google Now launcher, you can also set the lockscreen wallpaper through it.

Performance stuff is broken in upstream CM. Pretty sure it's in the OP.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Lione2:
Rom is very good, but battery drain is a nogo for me :( around 1h lost between cm & stock
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] beamscotty:
Recent battery drain

For those, including myself, experiencing battery drain recently: I noticed after the latest update to Google base framework this weekend, it installed "Launcher3" which was hogging the memory and consuming battery at an extreme rate. I deinstalled it and deleted all Google related caches and problem disappeared.

So don't only blame CM. Try this and see how you go. Worked for me.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] charliecantsurf:
How can one change selinux to permissive again ? Seems it's locked on 12/10 build

Oh, and, [MENTION=2836769]jrior001[/MENTION], any info regarding live display ? (Bluelight filter). It's the only thing missing for me from this ROM, that and xposed ?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] the rockstar 2020:
U may use this

http://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=12506&task=get
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] pijetri:
Battery life is horrible, numerous display wakelock issues

Off course, now i really want to flash 14.1 on my asus zenfone, :flashing official nightly of cm13 on my asus zenfone 2: .
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] hemant4409:
Waiting for one next good update as last update battery ðŸ”‹ drain is too much. ðŸ˜­
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Eucaryote:
50 % drain in one night, without use my phone. Screen drain 34 % in stat, strange
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] predroug:
Same here, battery only drains overnight.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] CBT38:
If you are using flip cover, battery drain could be due to new cover app, still in development.

Keep your flip cover open to reduce battery drain.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] mjesani:
I don't use flip cover still there is a battery drain overnight.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] predroug:
Neither do I.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] ccav2000:
I put the phone in airplane mode when I sleep at night, usually I lose about 4% - 5%, no more.

About the QuickCover, unfortunately I have to confirm it's buggy in its current version (in the Dec 10 build). In numerous occasion it caused my phone to turn on the screen when it received notifications and it kept it on. I stopped using my smart cover for now until a new build is released.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Fulvio Liatti:
The wifi is stable in this version of CM? I've a Z00A WW italian too, first with CM12.1 and 13, and now with Bliss v6.4 (android 6.0.1) but with both the Custom Rom the wifi continously connect and disconnect from the router. Even with "keep wifi on" setting to "always" of course... :(
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] dredremon:
Try Dirty Unicorn rom 10.6 mm no wifi issue
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] luiz__jr:
They abandoned this room ???
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] kenbo111:
No. Who told you that?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Eucaryote:
I think he thinks this because of the lack of updates in recent days. No more update since 10/12
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bernardobas:
The main dev is facing hardware issues. Hopefully, he will keep filling us with joy whenever he is able to solve those difficulties.

:fingers-crossed:
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] ccav2000:
Praise our lord and savior, praise [MENTION=2836769]jrior001[/MENTION] !

(Sorry couldn't resist :D )
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] C-Ph87:
PS. Not the main dev. The only dev.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] JuniorBR790:
[MENTION=7111568]say99[/MENTION] helps us too

Enviado de meu ASUS_Z00A usando Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] SirAnKeKu:
Is this a bug?

I tried to post a video in Instagram story and it keeps failing. And when i tried to post it as a regular Instagram post, it failed too. It keeps saying that fails to render the video. Newest build
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bar4:
how to go back to original rom or to MM from this rom, to be honest there is almost the same between android N and MM except this rom drain battery more faster than MM build, 99% i never use my phone for games or streaming, it's not normal if in one day i should charge the battery 3-4x, before installing this rom my battery can last at least 1-2 days w/out charging
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] musicman5844:
You know there's other 7.1.1 roms for this device with different battery life and there's a huge difference between andriod n and m
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Cisco408ca:
No more updates ? =(
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bar4:
i know n i've tried 7.1 RR and aicp, both in those roms my sim card not detected(yeah i've done that too, remove the sim card n put it back again not just one but many times n still the same), and i'm stuck in this rom cuz i can not go back to stock or my previous rom (temasek which is the most stable rom i ever use), i think the problem is after updating to new bootloader unlock to install this rom, so whenever i try to go back to stock rom my phone stuck on asus logo, i never had a problem go back to stock rom before
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] volde_:
I'm on cm14 and i want to flash the stock marshmallow back. I searched general thread but found nothing on it. Give me link of any guide or help me out here.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Groum:
Adb sideload from recovery the stock rom

Inviato dal mio ASUS_Z00AD utilizzando Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] volde_:
I'm on twrp, and i have to flash recovery first but dont know how? I have the firmware file and i extracted them. I got all three files i.e., recovery.img, droidboot.img, and boot.img... Now what i have to do further?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Groum:
Nothing stay in TWRP, go in advanced, press adb sideload, put the full ROM (.Zip)in adb folder start adb from folder and type ADB sideload (Name of ROM).Zip and wait from 30 to 50 minutes. Also this will wipe your internal memory , so back it up

Inviato dal mio ASUS_Z00AD utilizzando Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] volde_:
okay thanks, this look simple, will give it a try...

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R u sure this will work ?? I dont want to end up with a bricked device...
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] ElmirBuljubasic:
i do it every time i want to go back to stock rom

just backup internal memory
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] SeriousHoax:
Currently I'm on CM 14 latest build but I wanna go back to CM 13 from CM 14.. How can I do that? Can I just simply wipe and then flash CM 13? Help!!!
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] ElmirBuljubasic:
no, you need to install compatile cm13 with mm blobs
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] musicman5844:
I have 4 zooa devices and cm 14.1 on one with no issues of any kind RR on one device not one issue aicp on one device and again not one issue as you can see in the pic on that the sim is detected that's just one ..everything works on all ROMs for this device at least for me now if you want to go back to stock are mm base ROM you have to down grade your bootloader back to loliilpop bootloader to do so good and again upgrade back to mm bootloader if you want to come back to n ROMs ,, good luck
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] guizzzmo:
Hello. Great rom. Small bug but also everything is good.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] SeriousHoax:
Oops!!! Can I install CM 13 without doing that? I want to install the official CM 13 with Lollipop blobs. (I'm on CM 14).
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] charliecantsurf:
All are the 7.1.1. builds based off CM ? Does any of them have bluelight filter baked in the OS functional ? Also, what stock camera app do they come with ?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bernardobas:
You'll have to downgrade to L blobs. It's quite simple anyway.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] SeriousHoax:
Ow great..But how? Can u tell me the process please?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bernardobas:
Both scripts for upgrading and downgrading blobs are here:

Z00A

http://theflamingskull.com/downloads/z00a/MM_BL_STUFF/

Z008

http://theflamingskull.com/downloads/z008/MM_BL_STUFF/

Unzip and you will find the procedure instructions in a plain text file.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] dredremon:
just flash the unofficial cm13 from theflamingskull
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] saggiboy231:
What build of AICP u on? Battery only issue on aicp, im on 12/20 build.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] SeriousHoax:
Thank u so much :)

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I heard the unofficial one has some bugs. So, was thinking about switching to the official CM 13.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] musicman5844:
Im on 12/22 build was on 12/21
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] oml13:
SuperSu not working

Hi. Supersu not working on cm 14 . After installing supersu system not boots. It automatic boot to recovery (to TWRP).

Some apps requering supersu to work normally. How i can fix it ? My file system is f2fs.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] viaimpedita:
why you want install super su ? Its just in CM14.1. Go in settings - dev options
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] vctrmtlnd:
I followed the upgrade procedure to move from CM13 to CM14.1, but I'm stuck in a TWRP bootloop. I've read through many comments here, but no one has posted a solution.

Can someone please let me know how they recovered from the TWRP bootloop? I can't get into the OS. Every time the phone boots, I see nothing but TWRP.

Edit: I can get into fastboot mode, or TWRP. No OS.

Help would be appreciated. I'd love to contact family over the holidays!
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Wo11ven:
Are you flashing anything other that the ROM and gapps? Perhaps SuperSU? It causes bootloops.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] vctrmtlnd:
Just the ROM and gapps, no need for root.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] putzgonzalez:
It might help: http://xdaforums.com/zenfone2/help/stuck-recovery-flashing-rom-boot-t3499441/page2
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] vctrmtlnd:
Thanks! Turned out that the Modder Tool - stock restore process worked out great. I've got CM14.1 booting now.

http://xdaforums.com/zenfone2/orig-...-1-nightly-t3497103/post69643393#post69643393
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] oml13:
Because some applications wants SUpersu. My call recorder pro root <play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder&hl=en> is not working with native root . It wants SUpersu to work .
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] zebandido:
Anytime I restart the dual sim settings put the SIM 1 as default on everything when I just want mobile date from SIM1
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] Lukitos97:
where is the new builds?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] musicman5844:
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[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] blazzer12:
Same thing happening to me.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] juniofdm:
New builds please!

New builds please!
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] westkone:
Hi ☺️ !

First of all, thanks to everyone working on CM14 for our Zenfone !!

I'm on the latest build (10-Dec) and all is working fine excepting some things.

I know that it's been already notified, so I'm just confirming it.

When I want to see videos in Fullscreen in browser, the screen stuck and I have to manually shut down the phone pressing a few seconds the power button. I think it's a major problem.

Another one is, I have two SIM and only want data on SIM1, and calls, messages on SIM2 but it regularly switch back to SIM1 for calls and SMS.

Even if it's not a big problem, it's a bit annoying.

Except these two problems, I didn't notice any other problem.

A big ? for the stability as we are in early builds of CM14 !!
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] aerialus:
please read this... ;)

jason's device is still in hardware problem..

please never ask ETA ..
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] kenbo111:
Is it just me or does this seem a bit pushy and rude?
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] nutcasev1.5:
EVERYONE. Who asked, stop asking for builds.

JASON SIR DOES NOT DO BLIND DEVELOPMENT.

The builds have stopped because he doesn't have the hardware to test new builds on.

WAIT UNTIL HE GETS THINGS FIXED

Thanks
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] kuyakom:
im on latest build of CM13 official nigthlies trying to install the CM14 using this file "M_BL_upgrade_for_zf2_551ml_6.0" but this happen,

The system cannot find the path specified.

Rebooting to bootloader.

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

waiting for connection...

Start flashing ..

error: cannot load 'splashscreen_551.img'

error: cannot load 'bom-token_ze551ml_4_21_40_134.bin'

error: cannot load 'dnx_ze551ml_4_21_40_134.bin'

error: cannot load 'ifwi_ze551ml_4_21_40_134.bin'

error: cannot load 'droidboot_4_21_40_134.img'

rebooting into bootloader...

OKAY [ 0.100s]

finished. total time: 0.102s

'sleep' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

operable program or batch file.

error: cannot load 'TWRP-3.0.2-M1-Z00A.img'

Done.

Press any key to continue . . .
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] bernardobas:
I'm a Linux user and it also happened to me. I had to run the script as root or with sudo, can't remember. That worked for me.
[ZenFone 2 Original Android Development] kuyakom:
my only option is to revert my phone to latest stock rom MM then flash TWRP and install the rom, do you think it will work? thank you anyway sorry for my bad english