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[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] clsmn:
at first big thanks to erfanoabdi for developing and sharing this kernel! works great dude!

now two questions:

1.) (is maybe not directly related to the kernel) in terms of "disable force encryption" - is it possible to disable the encryption on a existing system or do i have to flash a new rom? (if not, can/must it be the stock rom or a custom rom?!)

2.) is it possible to implement some color-adjust-tweaks to the kernel? coming from a lg g3 with lots of display tweaks due to custom kernels, im a little fastidious with color-management. im not completly satisfied with the available stock display modes, cause its hard to find a good compromise between color vibrance and white balance
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] emmanueldmc:
This kernel is compatible​ wit Moto Z XT1650-03 Dual SIM Android 7.0?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] drfranz:
Yes, it is.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ethanscooter:
Wifi not working on stock N 1.2

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What if wifi isnt working on stock?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ArRaY92:
Any chance for custom voltage support?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jerryclho:
Is v1.2 working with camera mod? Moto z cn version with telus android n flashed not working. Thanks.

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[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Kibu21:
I've installed this kernel and I find it very beneficial, but does this kernel affect charging speeds, because I noticed my Turbo Charging seems to be charging at a slower rate, even when the battery was low. I tested this on the Ampere app (I know it isn't 100% accurate but it's the basis) and I also noticed that the amperage was significantly lower as it used to hit around 2500mAh and now fluctuates between 1000mAh and 1900mAh? :confused:
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] evilcat7:
is this kernel working with official lianegos?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Sujejsjejej:
Mh does the developer continues his work? Because on droid 3.0 it doesn't work very well and maybe he can adds a volume mod?

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[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] evilcat7:
hi i tested the kernel with lineagos moto z dual sim, but only one sim working
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] julioesc:
Remove encryption is it really working? How do I disable it after installing the kernel?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Slash47:
where do i execute this command? which app should i use? sorry new to this :)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Think 1.2 does not need that. Just flash and it works
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Slash47:
I already flashed but still no Wi-Fi. I got 20.00.00... For Mac address

PS. Already had Wi-Fi issue after upgrading to nougat stock. I am trying different custom roms and kernel for hope that one will fix my issue
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Offical ota upgrade on a unmodified system made WiFi fail? Or was it modified before upgrading to Nougat?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Slash47:
official umodified rom.. everything was stock when my wifi started to fail.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Oh. That sounds really bad then. Maybe you need some more detailed help to test if the hardware actually responds and works as it should. Don't know if it can be enough to install and run certain app and list all the hardware or if more advanced stuff is needed.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wallacemv:
Theres a way to revert custom kernel modifications?

The custom kernel script have a rollback instruction or some way to revert modifications?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] L45TK1NGS:
is it work for custom rom 7.1.2 ?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] eradicator006:
Is anyone able to successfully pass safetynet with the custom rom kernel? I'm trying it out on lineage and no matter what I do I cannot pass safetynet with magisk root and magisk hide. The strange thing is, I can download netflix from the playstore and pokemon go appears to function, however android pay refuses to run.

EDIT: Fixed. Had to set ro.build.fingerprint=motorola/griffin/griffin:7.0/NPLS25.86-30-12/12:user/release-keys
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
Everytime when i flash this Kernel (doesnt matter if on Stock rom, lineage or sth else), my Phone stucks in TWRP Mode. I have to flash an other kernel via fastboot to bootup my phone.

any help how i can fix it and flash this kernel successfully?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leoshyt:
Can this kernel make moto mods work on custom roms?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Have you tried version 1.3?

This kernel is supporting moto mods

And i have RR and mods working on it well

Seems like official lineageOS doesn't support mods only with vache cloud roms you can have mods

My rom : http://cloud.vache-android.com/Moto/griffin/ROMs/RR/
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
yes i tried v1.3

could you upload the img version of your kernel? Maybe this will work. :P
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leoshyt:
But these vache cloud roms only support battery mod, I mean can this kernel make mods like camera work?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Ohh it's not only battery mod ;p

Custom ROMs mods can't work with camera mod because of software issues and closed source softwares

In kernel i can only provide needed drivers for mods which is available right now

If you have camera mod you can speed up development by sending logs for vache (or me) and helping us

Sorry but It's nothing we can do in kernel
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
Finally my Phone works nearly perfect. <3

Just have 1 issue. SafetyNet....

Do you know how i can bypass it? I'm using newest RR and your Kernel.

It shows CTS profile match failed.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Lol, guess we're on same boat

I can't pass safety net too :(

Please if you find out how to fix it, tell us to know

Tnx
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
But i find out how to fix stuck in TWRP or stuck in Fastboot mode. :D

Should i create a thread for it?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Yes it's great

Create it on guide and news forum and I'll mention it in my OP ;)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] clsmn:
I've got a question according to the following statement from OP

I'm on rooted Stock Rom running Turbo Z 1.2. Is the data wipe also needed, when I already use the custom Kernel?

Or other question: what happens, when I dont wipe data? Backup with TWRP and in case, I can restore, or not?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
No you don't need to wipe data

This wiping will help to remove force encryption and only needed for first time

You can restore your backups anytime later ?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] maumarti2k:
Dear community, I have just performed my first root and kernel update on a Motorola device (Moto Z, I used to have Samsung). I installed V1.3 for stock rom and my Hasselblad camera stopped working. I read the thread for a solution, and the best I could find was to try with v0.7.6. Can somebody lend me a hand with these questions, please?

1.- Does v0.7.6 work with Nougat?

2.- Has anyone found a solution that I might try for v1.3?

Thanks a lot in advance
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Khanov:
my hasselblad didnt work either
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Ohh okay I'll fix it soon
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
please test 1.3.1 version

if it's not working again could you please grab logs for me
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] maumarti2k:
Man, you are the best. With the new release, my Hasselblad is now working. I really appreciate the help. One minor comment(which for me is not an issue at all) is that I need to start the camera through the camera app icon. The camera on button on the Hasselblad does not start the camera app, but it does shut it down. I am perfectly fine with it, I'm just letting you know in case you're interested.

Again, thanks a lot for your help
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] marvelboy88:
Confirming that working also camera botton in hasselblad mod without starting camera app
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] andregarcia_1:
I have a doubt, I installed this kernel when it was on beta. It probably modified boot.img, but I didn't make a backup before it. I want to install Pure Nexus custom rom on It, but I have fear to have any problem and it stuck on Bootloop. Can someone help me?

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[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Unless I'm mistaken installing a rom should replace TurboZ and simply overwrite current boot.img (kernel returns to built in version). A proper wipe and you should be good to go
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
First, try look at the storage oft your Data Partition. I think it shows 0MB. OFC in twrp. :P

If yes: Press on "Wipe" in TWRP. Then you'll see a button named "Filesystem Repair" or sth else with Repair.

Choose it and select "Data".

Change the Filesystem to EXT3. Now do the same thing and change it to EXT4.

Wipe Data and reboot your Moto Z. It should Boot now.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] yanniclord:
Does the "TurboZ_1.3.1_N" also work for MM? I am just curious, as i simply wont give up on XPOSED XD

Also, does "SafetyNet Patched" mean that we can play Pokemon GO or the likes with XPOSED and such?

EDIT: Apparently it doesn't work. I get a black boot the second i flash the KERNEL. However, it does say on the main page that the KERNEL should "Works with Android N", meaning that it should also work with Marshmallow.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
No I'm sorry I've stopped marshmallow kernel development

Latest version for MM is 1.0_MM Without safety net patches

I don't know is the patch working on xposed or not
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] yanniclord:
Would you bother or care to make a very quick patch that fixes SafetyNet for Android 6.0? I am simply not giving up on XPOSED :o

Oh and also, is there anything else missing in 1.0 beside SafetyNet patches?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dchitolie:
Does sefetynet pass with a custom ROM and this kernel?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] lollyjay:
I installed 1.3.1 with RR 0613. Wiped cache. Wifi stopped working. I have tried twice with same results. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Not sure

absolutely because 1.3.1 is for Stock rom only Version you should flash 1.3_CustomRom Version for RR rom ;)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] battlekaier:
No. I tried it with 5 Custom Roms. :(
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] lollyjay:
I knew that I was doing something incorrectly :eek:
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] sp4rt4n-i17:
Can only speak for Stock ROM with Turbo Z Kernel...

With recent change in SafetyNet, passing SafetyNet with Magisk out of the box doesn't work, BUT there is a workaround and as I read, it will be fixed in an upcoming Magisk version.

(obviously you need Magisk)

1. In Magisk Settings, enable the checkbox for "Magisk Core Only Mode"

2. reboot

3. enjoy Pokemon Go or whatever again

Hope this will help or work for you to.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] edzilla:
Hi,

If I flash this kernel with official Lineage, I loose wifi.

Does anyone have any suggestion?

I already tried insmod /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko but I get insmod: failed to load /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko: File exists
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
What version? Last version I tried I think I didn't need any commands to load WiFi. Think that was 1.2. Last time I checked the last version for custom roms was 1.3
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] edzilla:
It's my fault for not reading more closely, I did not install the custom rom kernel :(
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Ah. I had that feeling. Nice to know I was right [emoji2]
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
[MENTION=6298645]erfanoabdi[/MENTION]

With 1.1 or possible earlier with Lineage it gave a different mac number that looks way more random than the one all of us seem to get with original kernel... Also my wifi dying issue with hidden ssid and wifi allowed to turn of during sleep never happened with TurboZ either.

1.2 changed how it loads wifi (No more manual loading). But if I recall correctly mac ends up the same as original kernel...

I will try to replicate this on a more up to date version of Lineage. If mac still change with 1.1... Why? And would knowing this help pinpointing the issue with original Lineage kernel? Using different drivers or somehow implement them differently?

I am pretty sure many users if not all have 00:03:7f:50:00:01
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
I know why we all have this same MAC issue

It's because we're using old wifi firmware on device (modem image) with new kernel driver

On my old kernel I've been using same driver as our firmware

So if you want to test you can install turboZ Stock ROM version and tell me is that fixed your wifi issue

BTW I'm going to fix it after trying to fix camera mod on RR ;)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Great to know [emoji2]

I verified that 1.1 gave a correct mac number. I only hope original Lineage kernel fixes it too.

TurboZ gives me a terrible conflict... I want original kernel but also TurboZ fun stuff [emoji6]

Would be great with a new modem image then [emoji6] Updating the firmware would require a new modem image from stock firmware I assume (if it exists)? Flashing a custom rom never changes modem image I guess.

A other user flashed the latest TurboZ for stock firmware on Lineage and could not get wifi to work.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
version 1.3.1 is up for custom roms, i've fixed mac address bug please test it and tell me about your other wifi problem on this version :)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Great. Guess I know within 1-3 days [emoji2]
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
Also having problems with the camera mod. Aside from the button not launching the camera app, I can only get it to work if the phone boots with the camera mod connected. As soon as I remove it, I will need to reboot the phone again with the mod connected to get it to work.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
I don't have camera mod i can't test, so please send logs (with syslog app) when you trying to connect your mod and pressing button :)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] khahn:
Installed and works for me for now

MAC seems to be ok

Will test the next days

Thanks very much.

This thing has driven me crazy the last week's because me and my wife have both a Moto z.

We couldn't go online the same time and have been traveling for 4 weeks.

Can I buy you a beer or two [emoji3]

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[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Wifi stil has issues. Noticed it when trying to connect to a open wifi at a store. Had to do a airplane mode toggle to connect. Complete lack of response when trying to connect to any of the open wifi available. Probably the same bug as before. This would make this issue something more than just a simple driver issue I guess.

Log taken right after toggle airplane mode and connecting to wifi.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/59498ac101e7a/2017-06-20_22.15.zip
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
I'm still going through the syslog to make sure I don't accidentally post stuff that I shouldn't post. ;) I did find this and I'm hoping that's all you need to fix the camera button.

06-21 12:27:44.732 D/Magisk ( 482): su: return code to client: 0
06-21 12:27:44.815 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.816 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.816 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.816 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.816 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.816 W/ViewRootImpl[FragmentMainActivity](20730): Cancelling event due to no window focus: KeyEvent { action=ACTION_UP, keyCode=KEYCODE_LAUNCH_CAMERA, scanCode=535, metaState=0, flags=0x28, repeatCount=0, eventTime=64317534, downTime=64317454, deviceId=16, source=0x101 }
06-21 12:27:44.905 D/StreamDBQueue( 3220): Promised revision #57898 to queue a new op

As for the problem where the camera won't work if the phone doesn't boot with it connected, I'm hoping the rest of the syslog might have something that will help.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
The app SysLog by Scott Warner can scrub the log clean of personal info [emoji2]
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
Thanks. I actually used that. However, this is the first time I'm using it so I still went ahead and checked to see if it missed anything. I will actually redo the logs anyway. To make it easier to dig through, I'll post two sets of logs later. One log for just the button press not working, and another for the camera itself not working when I open the camera app.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] swejuggalo:
Video when having the wifi issue. Note that the encrypted networks is not really there at all. Way out of range.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3rx570bm0161ze/20170621_123417.mp4?dl=0
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] badaas:
Hi I have v1.2n installed on stock ROM, do I just flash 1.31n over that or do I have to wipe data (system reset) as well?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
I have attached 2 sets of logs and here is what I did for each:

Log 1: View attachment 4189804

- attach camera mod

- wait a few seconds then press button

- detach camera mod

Log 2: View attachment 4189805

- attach camera mod

- wait a few seconds then open the camera app and i got the message in the screenshot below

- closed the camera app and opened it again and it shows the same message

- detach camera mod

View attachment 4189813
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
are you sure you're using N_stock version?

because other users only reported camera mod button not working and i saw same errors on your logs when i was looking on custom rom logs :rolleyes: :silly:
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] badaas:
So is question of mine above too boring?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] lollyjay:
1 make nandroid backup

2 wipe Dalvik-cache and Cache

3 flash new kernel
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] badaas:
Thank you ?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
I am using a modified stock ROM (this) and am using the stock version of the Turbo Z kernel.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Ohh interesting...

Probably it's rom bug can't open camera mod after complete boot

But I'm working on it

That rom is too old, i suggest you to move on newer versions
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
Do you have a ROM to suggest? Maybe the one you test your kernel on. I prefer to avoid having to reinstall everything, but seems like it is time to get a newer ROM anyway. Doesn't seem like the one I'm using is still being developed.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Complete stock ROM is recommended

Here's installation guide : https://xdaforums.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342

Test your camera mod on this :)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] SamLehman617:
Using double-tap-to-wake causes a reboot on my phone on RR and the latest kernel
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
So I initially tried a dirty flash of the ROM and it didn't fix the problem. Doing a factory reset after the dirty flash, however, did fix it. Restoring my previous data partition broke it again. Looks like nothing is wrong with the ROM or the kernel, but instead something in my data partition is breaking the camera mod. The ROM currently works fine with the old data and I prefer not to do a factory reset if I can help it. I'm guessing I can just delete a file or uninstall something to fix things but I have no idea what. Perhaps you have an idea what I can do? Thanks.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
Thanks for letting me know:)

I don't know maybe it's some camera app doesn't let you to use camera or some magisk module I don't know :confused:
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaybz:
I see. I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong and post here if I find anything. Thanks for all the help btw.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] a442509097:
Thanks!

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How can restore to 1.8GHz ?
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] yanniclord:
If i install the 1.0 version for MM, what am i going to be missing from the latest versions?

Oh and, am i allowed to ask here if i can pay the developer to update (technically downgrade) the latest version of the KERNEL from Nougat to Marshmallow?

EDIT: Oh, and how can i disable the "FingerPrint as Home Button"? I do not like this feature, is there a way to disable it? I simply want to turn off my display when i hit the FingerPrint button, not use it as Home Button.
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] erfanoabdi:
No need to pay I'll update for you soon

Go to /sys/homebutton/enable edit this file to 0

Or simply add this to init.d or any startup app :

echo 0 > /sys/homebutton/enable

:)
[Moto Z ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] yanniclord:
But, but, but :(

I want to pay though, do you have a Donate button maybe? I have been using any enjoying your stuff for quite a while, and i tend to Donate to things that are free which i use frequently :)