yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eagle 1:
I agree with Alex 100%, Rom kitchen's are for personal use and the flood of similar Rom's with a different (and usually ugly) htc home screens does not really help add to the forums.

I do love Alex's Rom kitchen. I have built several rom's using his kitchen and often make different ones while I am waiting for one of the other Real Rom cooks to release their next build. He also has several nice Rom Builds
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MobilePhoneUser:
I see your point, but this has me wondering what the advantage is to extract OEM packages and cook them into one or more ROM variations as opposed to just releasing a clean ROM and sets of cabs from which people can choose which ones they'd like to install? With Sleuth's UC implementation, it seems especially easy now by simply putting all the cabs on a Storage Card.

I hope I'm not sounding ungrateful, because I am very grateful for all you've done and do...I love your ROMs, just trying to figure out the advantage of ROM variations...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
fwiw, I don't think you're being ungrateful at all.

It's a bit easier to fix OEM packages than to roll it up as a cab, so if anyone is working on their own ROM, fixing the contents found in my cooking kits, its that much easier to release a fix for the kit than a cab...

CABs are more user oriented but takes more time to package. OEM packages are more 'techie' oriented, but require you to wipe your phone to deploy with a new ROM.

Both have their needs. Either way, I'd like to see everyone using these kits for public ROMs to also be releasing fixes and new applications in CAB or OEM form, and not just in their public ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I wouldn't go that far :D If people enjoy what they've cooked so much that they want to share it with the public, then let them.

I just want to see those people contributing back to the kitchen as equally as they're contributing with their ROM by releasing OEM packages or cabs...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eagle 1:
ok, fair enough, I understand what you mean. I will try to contribute more and less bashing.

Alex, Have you ever considered assisting Chris (Midget1990) with enhancing his Athena kitchen or creating a kitchen for the Athena?

I really appreciate all you do for the Kaiser community, Your tools and expertise have assisted many in the kasier community.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] commissionerg:
Cooking a theme into a rom?

Does anyone know how to cook a .tsk file into a ROM so i don't have to put it in the the correct folder afterwards. or make the .tsk file into a package.SOLVED
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Thanks for the kudos. Totally off topic, but since you asked....

I've considered working on kitchens for other devices, but since it won't be my primary one, I don't think I'd devote as much time or effort to the other devices. The Athena is an interesting device, but it doesn't quite fit my needs...

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Follow the beam (apologies to Stephen King)

as noted elsewhere, the meaning of "beam" is not limited to IR - in the case of the Kaiser and others without IR, it means exchanging files via Bluetooth - so there

is

still relevance to enabling or disabling "beam"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fttilt:
I cooked a ROM using Alex's 1.60 kitchen. I was debating on doing a new one with the 1.62 kitchen. Has anyone noticed any improvements with 1.62 over older ROM's? Is the screen delay issue (waiting multiple seconds for the screen to respond) present in 1.62?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ryncppr:
Alex,

Here are the screen shots that I get when I try to use extract a ROM. I am extracting the HTC 1.62 original rom. I have extracted Part01 and Part02. When I click close on the first popup screen, I get the next. I then close the next popup screen it continues. I seems to not open several files as they are protected???

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lowreeds:
Alex,

How is using your rom folders different than extracting an ultra clean rom and cooking from there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lowreeds:
Here is another package for the kitchen.

HTC GPS Tool

From the Polaris by Nadavi.

http://rapidshare.com/files/95368362/Comm_-_Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.rar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
My ultraclean ROMs are no longer extractable starting with v5.2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Thanks! Added to the cooking kit wiki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Why are you extracting the HTC ROM from dump files? You can get:

The shipped ROM

My ROM folders, which is known as AT&T 1.62

Both versions are either extracted or extractable w/o dumping from your phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ryncppr:
I am just trying to learn from the ground up. I highly appreciate your work and think it is absolutely amazing, its just I like to know how to do exactly what I am doing.

Dumping the rom was not necessary, I was just messing around seeing what it did. THat screen shown in my earlier post pops up though no matter if I dump the rom from the phone or use the .exe file to extract the rom....

Any ideas why it is occurring?????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
No idea, I don't do much dumping or reconstructing at this time. If you really want an answer, you should ask in the dumping and reconstructing ROM thread found on the wiki or the sticky.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Confused Stu:
A few OEMs

Hi Alex. I was hoping you wouldn't mind me posting a few OEMs I threw together when I was cooking my little ROM. If they're up to scratch, then please feel free to put them into any OEM release you update.

RSS Hub - honestly can't remember if I made this, or downloaded it, so apologies if this is a duplicate.

Simple Stopwatch - not great, but it's freeware and accurate. Still can't believe WM doesn't come with one built in!

Nadavi 3G dialer - complete Black dialer with 3G from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1902455#post1902455
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Confused Stu:
A few games OEMs

A few games OEMs I threw together:

Battleships - simple, one player vs computer game

ClickBall - Simple but addictive game, great for the pub or people who've never used Touchscreen phone before

Connecting Jigsaw - Simple, but annoying puzzle game

Cubicle Chaos - Arkanoid clone but with "office" graphics

ICBM - Remember Missile Command from the 80's?

Patiences - graphically basic patience game with Klondike, Freecell and Spider Solitaire (only Spider one I could find, and the wife's addicted to that!)

Tangled Bugs - Simple puzzle game that gets very hard quickly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gthing:
Hey Alex - I hope I wasn't one of the people who you felt was taking a lot from the kitchen, releasing public ROMs, and then not contributing back.

I have tried to stay active in this thread and help by taking on some of the questions that are asked, as I've learned many of the answers along the way myself (and many times through asking you earlier in this thread).

I have made a few OEM packages, mostly modified yours, and could perhaps do better in uploading them and sharing them back with the community. It might be helpful if we had a centralized repository for OEM packages as they tend to get lost in threads and the wiki isn't at all a hosting solution.

If I set up a file repository for posting OEM packages, do you think people would use it? Would an FTP server or a file repository wrapped up with some CMS work better? I've got a lot of servers and a lot of bandwidth...

With all due respect, I don't think it's entirely reasonable to expect that people will use the kitchen *only* for "private use."

I released a ROM based on AT&T 1.62 because I didn't see that anyone else had, and I wanted to (try) to bring a unique style to the community. (I looked at a lot of designer watches when trying to come up with my home screen. :) )

It was a lot more work to use the kitchen to build a ROM when it would have been much easier just to install a base rom and customize it how I like. In my mind, the only reason I would use the kitchen was to make something I thought other people would enjoy. Why make a rom for only myself when in reality I only ever need to flash it once?

Yes, we probably all just need a little more encouragement to contribute back in the form of oem packages and the like. But it should be a fun thing. Some people might want to protect their oem packages just like you protect your roms from ripping. Some people will take and take and never even register on the board. But it doesn't matter - we cook because it's fun and we're trying to do something original. Whoever contributes in whatever way is welcome!

p.s. I sent your paypal account a little something to show my appreciation for all your help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Nice of ya, but already on the wiki :eek:

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I just wanted to get a general awareness of how I felt before it got out of hand. This recent batch of ROMs isn't the first batch that I've seen, but this is the first batch I decided to speak out to make everyone aware.

Thanks for all your support and for assisting others.

You'd be surprised how many people are downloading this stuff. Think of it this way, one OEM folder = 2MBytes average file * 8 bits in a byte * 50 OEM packages * 500 downloads per month = 400Gbit / mo.

That's not much if you have dedicated servers and you pay a flat rate for bw each month (the last farm I built I pushed 135Mbit/s all day long over dual 1Gbit drops for $40/Mbit out of San Jose), but if all you have is a couple of virtual servers and no dedicated lines, you're going to be hurting quickly.

I'm ok with attaching OEM packages to forum threads and linking it to the wiki, as long as the site is ok with it :D Editing the wiki is rather simple and it will get easier after certain wiki upgrades take place.

I completely disagreed with eagle 1's opinion on kitchens being for private use only. As mentioned, if someone cooks a ROM that is unique enough, I encourage you to share it publicly.

The idea was to make the kitchen easy enough so that it would be for someone to only need to flash a couple of times to get their perfect ROM.

I'm a techie myself with a long history of technical knowledge (computer at 7, programming at 9, rebuilt first computer at 11 ... 3rd datacenter at 32).

Bridging the gap from what I know to what the average user knows to have an easy to use kitchen can only be achieved with community contributions and feedback.

And it seems like we're starting to get there :D

Since everything created here is shared publicly, if you use this kitchen and base folders and you create a public work, everything in that public work is shared with the community in the form of a ROM.

It would save the community much time and effort if it was offered back in the form of OEM packages instead of requiring the community to extract it from a ROM.

This was only done with v5.2 because of what was posted here. All previous ROM versions were not protected. I'd like this to be a temporary act with 5.2 only :D

Thanks for your donation. It's appreciated. Hope this clarifies things!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Wow, this is *HUGE*. I'll definitely put it on the wiki until I can throw together the next update!

Thanks again!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] remlle:
I hope someone can help me. Im comming over from the titan world and sprintPCS. Ive got this phoen and want the windows mobile 6.1 on this phone can someone help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
Actually, it's not at all surprizing to me. Given the generaltraffic on this forum, add a factor for those who just watch/listen and everone's tendancies to try stuff, I'm sure lot's of people are just fiddling around, learning or whatever.

I've seen quite a few people using the 4Shared site lately. It seems to me that free is a better deal and there doesn't seem to any access limitations like RAPID and MEGA sites. Are you considering it given the comments above?

This I don't get. I don't see a reason for any restrictions other than someone trying to make money on other people good work. Why even the qualifier that it should be "unique enough"? There will be those who just like the color scheme difference, or a single application. Why does anyone care? It seems that even this minute contribution is in fact giving back.

Contributing back to the community AND back to the developers should encouraged, promoted, etc., but to me is separate.

MAJOR thanks and kudos to you.

Why not in CAB form as well since not everyone likes to have everything in ROM? My feeling is, if someone is using all this "community property" and holding out and protecting something in thier ROM or whatever, there should be a REALLY good reason for it and should be called on it. I can't think of a good example just yet, but I'm sure there is one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gthing:
No, nobody can help you. Deny all conveniences and move to the mountains.

Or you could go try to find even less relevant threads to post in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] someyungguy:
Alex i can only say thanks for the kitchens youve put out and i watch the threads everyday and if there is something i can help with i try too. If there is more i can do to give back and help, let me know and it will be done!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] remlle:
IVe gotten his kitchen and made a rom. one question I have is there is a battery icon on the title bar and I Dont want it there. Its not comming from anything IVe installed and would like to know how to get rid of it. hows that for relevant
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gthing:
That's pretty good.

This is a registry edit. You're going to want to look in

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock

and

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt

Play around with the settings there and ind what you like, then cook it into your rom. I disabled the battery meter and enabled to clock in all programs (which is also in the clock settings).

The settings for TBOpt are:

0 - Nothing

1 - Clock Disabled

2 - Date

3 - Date and Time

I know these settings look like they're for the clock, but they control the battery meter too as far as I remember.

Hope that helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] infamuz:
Which ROM is the best da WM6.1 HTC or WM6.1 ATT?? cuz i cant decide and really dont kno which one to flash...if someone can help me plz...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
The short answer is it depends on what you are looking for.

If you've read anything at all (no disrespect intended) you'd understand that your question may make you "flamebait". Which means you are prone to getting scolded for not doing enough research by searching and reading or by asking a redundant question, etc.

Go to the threads that talk about the various ROMs and read, figure out what you are looking for, then try them or ask if there is something you don't understand.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
For small files it's fine. For large files (and alot of them), it can be painful, as the multi-upload feature is web based and when it hangs, it takes forever to tell you. RapidShare and MegaUpload have executable uploading apps, which is why they've continued to be popular.

Originally I was planning to say, let anyone post publicly, and let the people decide whether or not it's worth flashing by how often people reply. To each their own, I'd just hate to think that I enabled everyone to flood everyone else with another identical ROM.

CABs or OEMs are fine as mentioned earlier too. I just despise CABs with setup.dll files :D

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
For small files it's fine. For large files (and alot of them), it can be painful, as the multi-upload feature is web based and when it hangs, it takes forever to tell you.

Originally I was planning to say, let anyone post publicly, and let the people decide whether or not it's worth flashing by how often people reply. To each their own, I'd just hate to think that I enabled everyone to flood everyone else with another identical ROM.

CABs or OEMs are fine as mentioned earlier too. I just despise CABs with setup.dll files :D

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
Building in the "Device Name"

I've been playing around with various versions of my own ROM based on the kits. One thing that I'd like to do is figure out how to "build in" my device name into the process instead of setting it manually after the fact.

Anyone? Bueler?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lowreeds:
Alex,

I remember you removed TodayAgenda a while back 'cause it was buggy.

Here is my OEM package for TodayAgenda ver 1.1.

It seems to be working fine.

Turns out this one was buggy as well. Some recurring appointments stopped showing up.

I'm moving to spb diary.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
Having problems with Base ROM

Could someone please go in to a little more detail on where the Base ROM comes from.

I thought you just found a ROM and put the RUU_Signed.nbh in the base ROM folder.

But I keep getting other applicationa I did not install and the wrong versions/builds.

If I install the ROM I got the RUU_Signed.nbh from it is what it is supposed to be, But I am having trouble getting mine right.

I originaly got my 6.1 rom by putting _Alex_ 6.1 Ultra CLean in the Base ROM folder and that worked fine.

I have replaced the ROM, SYS, and OEM folders. There is no Temp folder.

I am using V5 packages.

I did finaly figure how to get my iROM in the Device Information, but not my date or get my info on Boot.

I think I am missing something basic and simple I either did not understand or missed.

Now it is time to go to bed 2:30am yawn.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gthing:
I put the stock .nbh file in the baserom folder. I don't know if it's needed or used (I don't think it is).

As for the applications you didn't install - sometimes apps will install from the packages folder even if they are not selected. Alex made a good suggestion of actually moving out EVERYTHING except the packages you want and putting all the other stuff in a different folder (packages-deleted).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbmms:
hi

i want to activate the PTT applic. on my tytn II

iam getting crazy where i can find it

i used to have it on my nokia

anyone can help PLz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://xdaforums.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all

we are pushing all new people to start searching themselves before asking for help. There are better places to ask for this help then here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
Since receiving no response on this, should I assume everone is stumped on this?:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
I believe this is one of those things that only the advanced cookers know how to do. Us simple people who just play around with the kitchen and know how to do the simple things don't know about this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbmms:
hI

thank u Alex for supporting us to creat our own rom's

i want to ask u about adding another language to the rom to be enabled and i want to use an official rom

And how i can add PTT cab to enable that service on my wm

i tried to find out by checking the threads and google but sorry i cant find any answer so kindly help me

best regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fttilt:
Has anyone used Qmobile 1.2 and a cooked 1.62 rom? I have a cooked 1.60 rom and am debating if I should keep it, cook a 1.62 rom, or try qmobile 1.2. Any help would be appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
I used Qmobile and it worked very well. Go to the thread and read some of the reviews. Mine is in there as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
OEM\OEMVersion\mxipupdate_zzPIED_100.provxml and change the value. BTW, I recommend everyone to start using the search functions in BuildOS. You'd be surprised how easy it is to find strings and such :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
You should check the wiki for jcespi2005's thread on language templates. I understand that he has quite a few languages covered already.

As for PTT, not enough people have shown any interest and I don't want to incur fees while trying to create a cab for it, so you're pretty much on your own for cooking this in.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbmms:
Thank u Alex and yes it will help but just need a hint about cooking ptt and thats all

thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stainlesspc:
I have made it a practice to clear out the package folder except for what I want. There is just so much to look through :)

The STOCK .nbh is where i have my problem.

I was looking for a different build and Dutty used it so I put his rom in the Base ROM folder and ended up with a blend of his with my packages.

I built this one by using ALEX's 6.1 Ultraclean and it worked fine.

So any guidance or enlightenment will be GREATLY appreciated
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tomsenna:
Check your spelling next time...

I figured no one had the answer, so I continued until late last night determined not to be beaten. I was about to go to bed when I noticed that all the searches I did was from my incorrect paste buffer. I spelled the name wrong and thus never found where it was located. I had imagined the device id was encoded and therefore not searchable. Once I spelled the stupid dang thing correctly, I quickly found it in the registry - HKey Local Machine, ident, name - and before it is built in the (text) file - C:\kaiserkitchen\OEM\OperatorPKG\mxipupdate_oemoperators_105.

Thanks to Alex for the info on doing searches in BuildOS. I hadn't thought of that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fttilt:
Alex or anyone, how do I remove the AT&T dialer from the ROM? In one of your older ROM packages, you had the option of removing it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
The old BuildOS was PITA and crapped out when duplicate files existed, so the ROMs made back then had to have absolutely no duplicate files.

The new BuildOS uses files in Packages first and won't allow files in OEM/SYS to overwrite, which is fine because all customizations are in the packages.

So there is no need to remove it now, just cook another dialer on top of it :)

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ecltech:
nadavi Camera settings

Alex,

Recently tried out your AT&T Multimedia ROM and it works great. I really like the speed of the camera too. So I decided to download the AT&T 1.62 cooking kit and everything works great. However, I do notice the camera is a little slow compared to the pre-cooked AT&T multimedia ROM.

Is there anything special you did in the ROM version compared to the OEM package?

Thank you.

UPDATE: found the trick to make it speed up a bit -- set shutter sound to off (already had that set) and set to half-press instead of full press when taking a picture.