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[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Oh. I was thinking that Vulkan is compulsory.

Also it seems that it also do have dual hardware encryption. So there is nothing stopping it to get Nougat update.

Hoping it to be true as a Honor 7 user :)
[Honor 7 General] lionboy33:
I honestly dont think that Huawei will update the H7 to nougat but i have hope that there might be a custom nougat rom someday
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
Lets just hope that our Honor 7 will get Nougat :) That would be very nice.

But even if it won't im pretty statisfied with marshmallow, not having any problems with it, but still, havin the newest android version is always nice to have :D
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
If there is possibility like said above, Honor will surely update H7 to Nougat. No worries.

Yes yes... Updating to latest version makes us to feel like having a new mobile. :)
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
Yeah i think so too, since the Honor 6 got Android Marshmallow the Honor 7 should get Nougat allthoug we might have to wait till next year.

But i guess thats still better than buying a new phone since i want to keep my phones until they are bricked.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
I wouldn't put a lot of hope for that custom ROM.

Being also very unlikely, I think a oficial Nougat is more likely than that.

Also I think Nougat native encryption is hw dependent.
[Honor 7 General] lionboy33:
Theres even a Nougat custom rom for the s2 plus ;)

And ik someone whos working on cm 14
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
Well this is Huawei and they're new to this ball game.

If they adopt the same development support policy as OnePlus then we're talking.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Nope, Honor can't come near One Plus position for developmental support.
[Honor 7 General] EinBier:
Well I think Huawei has dropped the Honor 7 totally. There won't be any further updates in the future. There's a significantly high chance that B380 was the last update the Honor 7 got and it won't even get security updates, because the development section has stopped working on Honor 7 and won't start it again. ;)

I guess if there won't be an update within 2 months I'll buy a 1+1 or wait for a the next pixl device and sell my Honor 7 on eBay :laugh

Kinda sad, because I liked the device.
[Honor 7 General] shahroozs2:
I also think the development section has stopped working on Honor 7 because my brother's p8 lite has received January 2017 security update but my honor receive nothing!!!!

Shame on honor and huawei
[Honor 7 General] Largamelion:
Guys, go back to post #174 on the previous page, an update is coming for the Honor 7 but we just don't know when, it should be soon.
[Honor 7 General] supervixen:
Largamelion, i don't believe any of those "mails" anymore. There already were ones that said there would be Nougat update, that there would be not, again that there will be (all "official" as sent as reply from contact forms and social media) so... why would i wait for anything now? I believe there was an EMUI5 and Nougat update evaluated but they probably came to conlusion, that it's not worth it. They had few new phones last year, some flagships that selled good, had good reviews, so why would they bother about an old one? That's how big companies usually do. Not always, not every, but Huawei/Honor is pretty good at it.
[Honor 7 General] EinBier:
I totally disagree. There won't be an update. It's just basic PR tactics.

I agree. Accept the fact that Honor 7 is dropped ?
[Honor 7 General] Largamelion:
Lying to customers is not very good PR. They have never told me any lies, they have always said Nougat was unsure and that they were waiting for an answer from China. When they got the answer, they told me that there won't be a Nougat release for the Honor 7.

I will just wait and see. I'm pretty confident we will still get one or more updates. If we don't, I'm also pretty sure this will be my last Honor device.
[Honor 7 General] EinBier:
Before I bought my Honor 7 I asked them via Facebook if there will be nougat and they answered with yes. So in the end they lied.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
This is why this was my last Huawei/Honor. This opens a big precedent. Anyone who buys one phone of these brands now will take the same risk.

This is the exact same reason I dropped Xiaomi. I'm starting to see a pattern here... Chinese brands with proprietary SOC and/or small XDA community means your're left on your own soon after company takes your money. In this case, one year and a half.

I still see Sony and 1+1 as leaders in sw support and updates.
[Honor 7 General] buongu:
just avoid proprietary SoC's ;)

Xiaomi provides an excellent software support on all his models sporting Qualcomm solutions. My Mi2 (2012) still receives monthly updates.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
I still have mi2s, and yes, it has updates and that's even better than Huawei. But no upgrade to 6.0 and that triggered me.
[Honor 7 General] EinBier:
Well Xiaomi at least Update their devices. I would be super fine if Huawei would just release some security updates.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
A device is as good as the combination of HW and SW. Honor 7 sucks big time.

They sold 200.000 units in just 2 minutes during its first flash sale in China on July 7. And I'm sure they sold a lot more afterwards.

For most of people this is fine, they just don't know anything about updates and upgrades. The problem is the power users that like me, that care about sales propositions, specs and support. And most of, all can influence a load of people but I figure Huawei can deal with that. After all, they're selling so much, like Xiaomi (was not too long ago the market leader in China) did and until consumers realised support was crap and brand pretends it cares about users.
[Honor 7 General] eddydc1:
Android 6 is enough, good battery and performance why update nougat if not necewsary
[Honor 7 General] supervixen:
eddydc1, you have clearly never tried to use any app that *need* to work in background because if you would try, then you would never said something like that. Apps like music players, sport trackers (everything that use GPS, like Endomondo, Strava, Runtastic and other GPS loggers), things you would like to do while multitasking (writing a document while listening to music and browsing web) - they all get interrupted and killed on this phone. Apps in background simply can't work properly on Honor 7. Powerusers expect more than Facebook and Instagram.
[Honor 7 General] marko0205:
Honor Italy:

"Gentile cliente,

grazie di aver contattato il supporto Honor.

La informo che al momento non è stato definito il programma ufficiale dell'aggiornamento alla versione Android 7.0 – EMUI 5.0 per i dispositivi Honor 7.

Grazie e buona giornata,

Andreea

Honor Italy Customers Service"
[Honor 7 General] supervixen:
Thanks for the info but i'm afraid that noone cares anymore or at least noone really believe now that they will give us big update, not to mention Android 7 update.

As for me, i'll just wait till my contract ends and sell the phone never ever thinking about buying another one from Huawei and Honor.
[Honor 7 General] muradulislam:
+1
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
OnePlus uses vanilla Android to begin with and SD SoC.
[Honor 7 General] memht:
No need to worry about that. Honor 7 can get the Nougat without any issue. Vulkan driver is not neccessary, OpenGL ES 3.1 is enough. And probably it will get that update but not now. Maybe 6 months later but not soon. They have to sell their new devices first.

And Honor 8 EMUI 5.0 beta program has started today. Huawei always provides 2 big updates for their phones.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
I think this will break for Honor 7.

Honor 7 is not listed in the Indian BETA Software Program form for Nougat too. So I think so it won't get it.

However Honor 5C, 5X are listed in it.
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
Agree. :)
[Honor 7 General] ka-r-los:
So, update is possible... Android N is bringing higher security... but about RSAP support?:(
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
It should be included.
[Honor 7 General] ka-r-los:
Sad is, that RSAP support is native in MM, but huawei is not supported it :(
[Honor 7 General] memht:
Do you remember what Rockstar did at GTA 5? They said it will be available for PS only. But after 2 years they made a PC version. We call it 'sales policy'. Too soon for everything. Like I said, in 6 months we will be sure ;)
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Hoping that our wish will become true.

As a Honor 7 user, I love to have update to Nougat. But symptoms are not showing that sadly. :(
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Saw a positive update from Honor India.

It has been mentioned that Honor 7 will get updated to Nougat. Will see.

Source: https://club.hihonor.com/in/techsupport.251/official-emui-5-0-android-n-update.11083
[Honor 7 General] erkkirahu:
Honor Polska. Erkki, Honor 7 will not be receiving Android 7 update. Have a good day!
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
Well, for me security updates and Emui5 features are enough. Even if it is still in Marshmallow.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
If EMUI 5 don't come, then Honor 7 will get Marshmallow update with suitable features that can be done in EMUI 4.

Feature update is Guaranteed. It might be another EMUI 4 (or) EMUI 5.
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
I agree with you, maybe we will get EMUI 5 running Marsmallow and Nougat is not essential for EMUI to run.

And if not i bet we will get at least some of the new features.
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
If that happens, it will be EMUI 4.2 but not EMUI 5. It will create confusions.
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
Yeah, you're right, since nowadays everyone gets confused easily.
[Honor 7 General] cycovision:
According to the New Android compatibility document it is not necesary to use the Vulkan API anymore.. So there is still hope then
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
Yes. I didn't understand why they made Vulkan a neccessity in the first release.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
But OpenGL OR Vulkan is mandatory. That's why some powerful SOC are out of update path. Like SD801.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Because of the impact of developers across the world, they might have removed that mandatory condition now.
[Honor 7 General] ASMstudent:
A new android 7.0 compatibility document has already been released and I guess API Vulcan support isn't a must anymore but few features will be disabled ( or that at least what I've understood ).

Here is the full document if someone could tell us more https://static.googleusercontent.co...com/en//compatibility/7.0/android-7.0-cdd.pdf
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
That's great news.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
Hope so, they were leaving many users angry. Also some brands were caught between user bashing and Google restrictions.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Especially Sony's Statement on update for Z3 would have impacted more.
[Honor 7 General] TurasPl:
On their FB profile in Poland, Honor said that there will not aby 7.0 update for Honor 7.

They response is we 'do not expect Android 7.0 update for Honor 7'.

No matter who cause this Google, Huawei - this decision sucks. Just 1 year of support...

Huawei is aiming atApple - You can say a lot of bad things about Apple - but 4 years old Iphone 5 got iOS 10. Simultaneously with other devises and at once in all countries... That is something Android can learn / adapt from Apple.
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
Honor has to make a concrete decision now. The are making lots of confusion. :rolleyes:
[Honor 7 General] TurasPl:
More over. They just confirmed - No EMUI 5 without Android 7. Means what we have on our 7s is what we got to live with.
[Honor 7 General] zinko_pt:
Especially that. There was Nougat beta for Z3 but then Sony said there's not upgrading for that model. No sense at all.

Now H7 might or not have Nougat. But the worst can be is no information at all or contradictory information.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Nougat for Honor 7 won't arrive without EMUI 5.

If Nougat won't arrive, then the only possibility is releasing EMUI 5 features in EMUI 4 which will be dubbed as EMUI 4.2 , 4.3 etc...
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Support is for 2 years. But No Nougat update.. It will revolve in MM update itself with some new features if they decide so.
[Honor 7 General] ASMstudent:
Honor promised a 2 year support for honor 8 but I don't remember them doing the same for honor 7.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Honor 2 year support was an unwritten will earlier.

Now they have documented it. That's all..
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Support includes security patches. If they are unable to provide then it means they can't.

One doesn't ruin themselves simply, especially after promising 2 years support.
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
No 2015 flagship phone other than Honor 7/Huawei P8 is affected. It was Huawei's decision to use ancient 2012 GPU.

It has Mali-T628 which does support OpenGL 3.1 but it doesn't support OpenCL 1.2.

Mali-T628 GPU doesn't support OpenCL 1.2. There will be no Nougat for Honor 7, Huawei P8, Mate 7 or Mate S.

OpenGL 3.1 and OpenCL 1.2 combo is necessary. And wthout Vulkan, Nougat doesn't work well.

It makes sense. It turned out that without Vulkan, Android Nougat isn't reliable enough to release it through OTA (Sony is known for quality updates).

Welcome to Huawei/Honor. Honor 6 was an exception. People are *****ing about Samsung while while they have really solid update policy (two big updates for every flagship + security updates every month - Honor never did that).
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
I too think like that. But still I'm confused on the Honor India's post - https://club.hihonor.com/in/techsupport.251/official-emui-5-0-android-n-update.11083

---------- Post added at 12:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 AM ----------

Not only Honor 6, Honor 4X also is now running MM which started from Kitkat.

4X was getting security update last week too.

So in my point of View my Honor 7 is an Exception to that 2 big upgrades :(
[Honor 7 General] tap007:
NO OpenCL 1.2 or OpenGL ES 3.2 / Vulcan 1.0 requirements for Android 7.0!!!

http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/source.android.com/cs//compatibility/android-cdd.pdf

7.1.4. 2D and 3D Graphics Acceleration

Device implementations MUST support both OpenGL ES 1.0 and 2.0, Device implementations SHOULD support OpenGL ES 3.0, 3.1, or 3.2 on devices capable of supporting it.

Note that device implementations MUST include libGLESv3.so and in turn, MUST export all the OpenGL ES 3.1 and Android Extension Pack function symbols as defined in the NDK release android- 24. Although all the symbols must be present, only the corresponding functions for OpenGL ES versions and extensions actually supported by the device must be fully implemented.
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
So you mean that Nougat is possible for our Honor 7? :o
[Honor 7 General] Icetea:
Nougat update for our Honor7? Why should they do that? It is a "old phone" ; older than one year! New models are available! Why to hell they should spend more time into it?

They had delivered this phone with Lollipop and had updated it to MM!!! This damned phone costs only 270€ now and wouldn’t be more sold if it will run on Nougat!

View forward and be quiet! This crystal ball viewing doesn’t help anybody! Sorry, but this is my opinion.
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
Well it's not that unusal that older phones get new updates, the Mate 8 got Android nougat lately and that phone is also "old". But thats huawei i don't know how's the case with honor, could be true that they just deliver huge updates for the newest phones. So i guess we will have to wait to see what honor is doing and i am also not really confident about the honor 7 getting nougat, But it is not impossible. And also i think it has something to do with "customer care" because i won't buy another phone from a company which does not provide updates for older phones, because i dont want to buy the newest phone to get the newest android version. But thats my opinion.
[Honor 7 General] memht:
I do not understand why you're still arguing. Honor 7 will definitely get Nougat update. I'm sure of that. There are no hardware obstacles. Huawei is not making any announcements about this, because as I said before, this is a sales policy. Every provider does this (phone, computer, game does not matter). Just wait 4-5 months and see, the beta program will start.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Honor 4X is also old phone. It came out with Kitkat. Now it is running Marshmallow. So Trust Honor. If the hardware supports, then surely it will have Nougat.

As of my previous experience, till last week Honor 4X got bug fix updates. Remember that it was released with Lollipop, Currently running in Marshmallow.

I too have the same hope as a Honor 7 user. Will see. Unless there is any hardware obstacles, we will get it.
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
there is one hardware problem - old GPU with no OpenCL 1.2 support. Huawei makes an announcement - on their Polish facebook page they were very clear: no Nougat fo P8, P8 Lite and Honor 7.
[Honor 7 General] Icetea:
but nobody seems to believe that!:silly:
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
They'll believe it once they see what is going to happen.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Can you post the screenshot of the same.

I also have Honor 7. But I don't expect it to be updated. But still I have a small wish of getting it updated. Will see...
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
Here you go:
[Honor 7 General] Icetea:
I hope, that this fact will be displayed clear enough to stop talking about yes or not Nougat for Honor 7!
[Honor 7 General] sharma1998:
I hope we get the nougat update. It will be bad from honor as they promise to provide two major updates to their devices. (Fingers crossed)
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
That is a bit obscure by now. A custom ROM is the only way to taste Nougat with Honor 7.
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
They promised that when Honor 7 was a one year old device. I'm pretty sure it applies to Honor 8 and their newer phones.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
:( No Expectations hereafter...
[Honor 7 General] emptycolors:
I texted Honor on their official Facebook page and they told me they still have yet to receive an update on which devices from Honor will get Android Nougat. They are checking that post posted on Honor Polska Facebook page since there is no any information on Android Nougat for other Honor devices besides Honor 8.
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
So there is still Hope, yay!
[Honor 7 General] Darksage07:
I have a little question about this topic . I've read the android specs pdfs that was shared before. And for what i've read Honor 7 has the needed OpenGL/OpenGL versions they talk. But i saw in this topic some references of openCL 1.2 where did you find information to base that Nougat needed opencl 1.2 ? Since that was not refered on pdf.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Here is another article for Honor 7 not getting EMUI 5 (Nougat update) :(

Source: https://www.androidpit.com/android-nougat-update-overview-smartphones-tablets#Huawei
[Honor 7 General] Icetea:
but nobody seems to believe that!!!
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
Del.
[Honor 7 General] erkkirahu:
Honor Club India

For the Honor 5X, Honor 5C and the Honor 7, we are analyzing the feasibility of releasing the latest EMUI version on to your device. For older devices such as the Honor 6, Honor 6+, Honor 4C, Honor 4X, Honor 3C and the Honor Holly 2 Plus, there will not be any further major updates for your device.Check out the below link to see if you are already on the latest EMUI version available for your phone. https://www.facebook.com/HonorClubIndia/posts/1149344055153915
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Yes... It is in Analyzing phase.

Honor 5C has more Hope than 5X and 7.

Honor 5X and 7 is not ruled out. There is very little hope

If it gets passed successfully, the update will be rolled for Beta.
[Honor 7 General] Fi7agi:
than ?

honor 7 will receive Android 7 N. ?
[Honor 7 General] Darksage07:
It's not decided yet. They are doing some internal tests.

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[Honor 7 General] sharma1998:
Its showing unknown. It means that we have hope and we might get the nougat update.
[Honor 7 General] shahroozs2:
Guys

Do you know anywhere that we able to talk to huawei cs about releasing Andorid 7?
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
Honor 7 and Huawei P8 are technical twins. One will not get an update without the other. Neither H7, nor P8 will be updated.

Honor/Huawei's PR department rarely has some definitive info from other divisions.
[Honor 7 General] memht:
P8 already took 2 big updates. Lollipop and Marshmallow. And not exactly twins.. some of them have kirin 930.
[Honor 7 General] shahroozs2:
Exactly .I think it's not fair for honor7's users and show that huawei doesn't care about customers and just want to sell their products.
[Honor 7 General] erkkirahu:
Honor Club India

Honor will be releasing EMUI 5.0 (Based on Android Nougat) update only to Honor 8, Honor 8 Smart, Honor 5C and all devices releasing in the future. Currently there are no plans to release EMUI 5.0 for any other Honor device.
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
This saddens me. :(
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
If the product doesn't support the new OS, then they can't do anything...
[Honor 7 General] Abraracurcix:
Not true. If they can not port nougat because of google, they can port emui 5.0 at least!
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
Email 5 is not possible without Nougat as EMUI 5 is built over Nougat.

However they can include some new features in EMUI 4 and make it similar to EMUI 5.
[Honor 7 General] majaczos:
One. Both P8 and Honor 7 were released with Lollipop. Technically - they are twins. Kirins 930 and 935 are identical. The only difference is CPU/GPU clock.

EMUI versions are tied to Android versions they're based on. They may update EMUI 4.1 to 4.2 with some functions from EMUI 5 but don't expect a lot.
[Honor 7 General] Abraracurcix:
That's what I'm refering to. Is Nougat impossible for those models? Fine. But Huawei could include most of the new EMUI features, regardless any Android version, if they wanted to. EMUI is their own graphic software. Any other procedure by them are excuses for not providing an update with the latest EMUI available features to flagship models that are just one year old by now.

This is not a proper product support. Its a Shame!!!

No more futher Huawei/ Honor devices for me anymore, that's for sure.
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
That will happen... New features will be added for EMUI 4.
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
New features but limited.
[Honor 7 General] Szumy:
I hope they will add the app drawer like they did on Nougat en EMUI5

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[Honor 7 General] jkccl9:
It makes sense for them to drop support as they want u to buy a new phone ?? and make more ??. And the performance on older phones won't be as good. My two year old honor lags from time to time on marshmallow ?
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
Yes it makes sense somehow but on the other hand i think they will also lose customers this way since not everyone wants to buy a new phone every year just to get the newest updates. I just hope that they will release some features from EMUI 5, that's all i need i'm pretty happy with marshmallow.
[Honor 7 General] venom007:
hope so:rolleyes:
[Honor 7 General] vsriram92:
That is everyone expectation...

Nope. Remember that Honor 4X released with Kitkat is now running on Marshmallow. So if there is no things blocking their way they will provide the support.

Yes. Considering the history, Honor gives updates for 2 years (Including major and Minor updates).

In this case we might not get major updates due to other problems. But minor updates will get for sure.
[Honor 7 General] EinBier:
So their won't be an update for our Honor 7? Very poor support Huawei! If I could I would rather bought a 1+ :(
[Honor 7 General] Rbunchie:
As [MENTION=6278719]vsriram92[/MENTION] said, there will be updates, but no big updates such as a nougat update or an update to Emui 5. But there will be security updates and hopefully also updates with new features from emui 5.
[Honor 7 General] venom007:
is this the same case with honor 5x???
[Honor 7 General] adriansticoid:
Hopefully no.