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[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
Hi, I also have a W800, have had it for a few months now but i never used it because the first day i received it, everybody told me that my phone was switched off due to the sim not being recognised after reset, i then found out that it will work if you remove the battery and replace it. Being very angry with the phone and also since the fm radio does not work i just left it in the box.

Is there any difference installing G500 097 rom for the fm radio to work or another rom?.

Also since not all of us are capable of making a backup of our own rom, if it is possible can someone host a backup of the w800 rom so we can download etc.. and use on our own phone if something happens etc.. also if you have found a better rom for w800, it would be nice if you could host this too so that ppl like me can download and use especially after you have made it work on w800, becaus ei have no idea how to convert a rom.

Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
Read this

and all messages in this topic
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] solatges:
I havent understood too.. Whats the good thing with the g500 rom now? The telephone has less bug now? Has he got all the old fonction too?

Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
nothing - its the same
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] hellrazer:
Need help badly!!!!

How in the world can I receive sms with my Icool W800?? Another thing is I need the GPS software and the map of Canada. Somebody please help, i've been searching forever for these stuff and no clue so far.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
Ikar, i have read all the topic posted here and I understand that all remains the same if g500 rom is installed!

Only JJae6 has said that he has loaded latest g500 rom then his w800 went bust, the rest just mentioned loading a russian rom which is not neccessarily a new rom!!

I had also read jjae6's pdf files but i still find it hard to make my own backup rom or convert g500 rom for w800, is it not possible for someone to host these roms after they are made, so as to help ppl like me who do not understand so much these things?

I also would like to add that my w800 has no problem receiving SMS's and I have same version of wm5 as mentioned in beggining of topic
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
I have checked to receive and send sms you must go to-

settings under personal click phone, then go to services and highlight ''voice mail and text messages'', now click get settings, you should now have the mobile provider text messages service center number, if not ask mobile service provider and enter manually. In my voice mail box i have not any number so I assume if i try voice mail it will not work but i have never used voice mail here.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
YES all remains the same. I tested 3 G500 roms:

- EUU_ETEN_G500_WWE_R22_105_0110.EXE

- G500_WWE_0110.EXE

- G500_EC_G5V0100_WWE_R01.exe - russian

My tested w800backup rom - based on russian 110 rom (boot logo from this rom) - http://rapidshare.com/files/86726527/temp.rar.html

Mymodified rom (tested) - my logo, added cabs to extrom: sdhc.cab,psshutxp, lastcallo2 - http://rapidshare.com/files/86728753/temp.zip.html

I think you also have problem receiving sms's - problem is only with sim cards some mobile operators ( In my country i tested sim cards from 4 mobile operators - in only one case (era -sim card) - sms's receiving is problem
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
With sim my mobile operator - your solution not working
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] dAV84:
And if we make a update?

Ok, we knows now, the W800 is a copy of ETEN G500

He have the program to listen FM RADIO (not runs)

Problem with SMS received in most country on the world.

Problem with Phone if stop the baterie at start.

Now.

1) A ROM is composed into 2 parties

a) FMRADIO (is the drivers of phone and pda)

b) ROM OS (The windows and program)

anything knows how extract in 2 parties this?

If we take THE ROMRADIO(drivers) with the las rom for ETEN G500 and the last ROM OS for ARTEMIS in WM6

Can we make a special ROM for W800?

For newers (me) the rom must be in .EXE for install directly from SDCMM card, no take wtih the DOS or other from PC......

A solution? Anything kows how make it?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] dAV84:
A tutorial for creating Speial ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327203
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
It's tutorial for artemis:

"How to make an extended rom - a tutorial."

and better read this :http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=297263&highlight=eten+perl+scripts
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Yes, that right now. :-(

It is not known, there is no application loader (and original rom) for the W800 ROM.

I only got how to extract the "base ROM" ( part of your "b" part = imgfs_raw_data.bin) with pdocread....

The problem is that party (his b) should be cooking to be loaded on ROM (temp.dat).

For that, we take the "temp.dat" G500 template file, and placed inside the file created by pdocread (w800 data file imgfs_raw_data.bin).

That means "temp.dat" is a container (imgfs_raw_data.bin) with much more information including the bootloader.....

The matter is now known that the W800 is not a artemis ...Ie only pick what they serve for a Eten G500

In previous post, I wrote a file that updates the G500 ROM RADIO.

I think "G500 rom radio"= "GPS firm" + "radio FM"

So far nobody has charged this firm (g500 rom radio) in your W800.

I only got to load a coocked ROM "temp.dat" through: (read my .pdf)

1. ActiveSync

2. Without activesync

3 .- through microSD.

That is all ,I Until I broke my W800.... I am not able to help more, this is what I know.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I am glad that this information is good for you.

Greetings.

jjae6.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Hello.

If your system run well....not neccessarily a new rom!!!

and...

Yes, My W800 broke, I loaded at least 15 times the ROM. And I believe that this chip RAM is not ready for such charges ....

I think that the system "mark blocks damaged" ( Every time start a Rom load procedure) and you run out of memory useful for upcoming charges of ROMs ....
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
JJAE6 or Ikar, can you upload the G500 english 110 rom that is modified to work on our w800 as i have very bad reception on my w800 and many times when i miss a call the phone freezes and i have to reset, aka remove battery....

I am hoping that reception and this minor problem of phone freezing when i miss a call will be solved, none of you mentioned it maybe because you are running the g500 110 rom??

Regards and thanks in advance
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jengitsme:
I have found something that could be a rom backup, i have found it at soft4mobi.com, i have uploaded it, take a look if it is right.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I think the ROM G500 is identical to W800, except the bitmap W800 boot.

You can download the G500 v110:

http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=25

I think that if you have problems, will having it....I believe that in your W800 ROM is loaded a G500 v110 rom.

I think it would require a review of some dll files, Among others "etmux.dll" and "rilgsm.dll", dll communicating with the sim card.....While not have an updated ROM for W800 or G500, I think we will have the same problems....
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Thanks for the link, but I do not think it serves.

This .bin file is a unknown format and very different to G500 rom.

This .bin not responding to decompression through "viewimgfs.exe"..

I find hex text as "Accelerated Technology Internal Use Only - Serial Number: NP0000 ..... Copyright (c) 1993-2000 ATI - Nucleus PLUS - Version ARM 7/9"

And a search to google... this is a RTOS Embedded Systems from memtor.com... i think this rom is not a windows mobile system
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Another news:

In previous days (Before bricking my W800 in my rom update), I bought in a Internet Bazaar a USB charger cable for Cect P168 (iphone clone Chinese).

For people who interested him, the connector is the same externally to W800, but internally the pinout connections are different. The connector can be disassembled and could weld in the adequate 4 pins....
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
JJAE6, I tried to update my w800 with g500 wwe 110 rom but it said non compatible hardware as i expected. ( i do not know how to modify it to work for w800)

I asked you or Ikar to upload if possible a modified version of g500 wwe 110 rom that will install on w800 because i would like to try it!!

Regards and Thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
Hi there,

I finally sat down and followed JJAE6's instructions and flashed my w800 with eten wwe v110, activesync method.

Regarding the radio it do not work as all of you said and i think it can never work because the gps chip inside w800 is probably not the same as in g500, the g500 is sirf3 + extra radio chip or whatever, the w800 nobody know but if it were the same the radio would work. Regarding simcard not being recognised after reset, this is prbably also due to different gsm/gprs chip inside w800 , I think all the probs are hardware related not software related although maybe could be fixed by software but not by usung g500 rom or modifying g500 rom with and parts of w800 rom because i think and so does jjae6 that both roms are identical. For all of us to be sure someone needs to open w800 and identify what gps and gsm/gprs chips are used inside w800 and compare them to that of g500.

Thanks

i am staying with g500 rom as all works, the same as w800, tested gps and it does seem faster but maybe i am imaging i dont know, reception on gps also seems better without antenna but again maybe i am imaging.

any comments...

My final opinion is for the price of the w800 i think it is a true bargain as gps works 100%, windows programs 100% also, and gsm capabilities at the moment seems ok.

When calling other party say to me that volume is very low anybody have same problem, maybe it is only my microphone that is not so good??
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Soon I hope to open my bricked W800 and take some pictures and I Report to the forum.

PS: I still needed some $0.5 paypal donations ;-)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
JJAE6 GIVE ME YOUR PAYPAL ADDRESS I WILL GIVE YOU A DONATION, I HOPE ALL OTHERS FOLLOW SUIT.....

Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Thanks aqualogic for your support,

My paypal address:

jorgejuan6

@

aim . com

=============

He made a pdf file with internal photos of my bricked W800:

"w800_strip_jjae6.pdf "

About 21 mb of high-resolution digital images.

I recover my W800 through donations....I hope ... :-)

To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $...... I will send the private link to the pdf file.

Current Donations: $ 0.92

Sample .pdf photo:
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] difylos:
The biggest problem of this phone :

If the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed.

im getting this error:

" a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone "
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] dAV84:
Gps And Tmc

I'm install DESTINATOR 7 (illegal donwload, no good by just for test), but can't install maps*****

But's the good new "the TMC.EXE" runs and the gps take information from radio with the external antenna...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I think that by now, the best gps application navigator is Igo / Miomap, but this is a matter of taste....

On the other hand the TMC is good news.

Best Regards.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
i am running tomtom on w800 and it runs fine!! The only thing is that without external antenna sat reception is very low.

Regards

ps. I will send you $10.00 on your paypal JJAE6, the info you have given us so far merits more than that. If you decide not to buy new w800 then no probs for me , if you do buy a new one then even better so we can continue this work. By the way when you send me the pdf i would like to see what flash eeprom it uses maybe we can fix your old w800 by changing flash with new flash, simple...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Hi AquaLogic.

Yes, without the external antenna this gps is very bad...

PS: Thank you, I hope your future donation with open arms. :-) . I will send you a private message with the link to the pdf file.

Current Donations: $ 0.92
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
Radio will never work on w800 because w800 uses Antaris 4 chipset for GPS whilst g500 uses sirfstar3 with fmTMC receicer. So in w800 there is no fm receiver due to use of Antaris chipset for gps.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
No fm receiver due to use of "antaris chipset": Ho ho ho!! :D :D :D :D

Then .. We must take, search, the original ROM of china !!!

I think...Chinese? person who turned this model into different languages (English, Spanish, German ...) simply took a firmware compatible (g500), but not at 100%.... Good job boy!!! :-(

Until we have that firm Chinese, I believe that there is nothing to do.

( sms problems..., GSM start problems.... and fm discarded offcourse)

This is my opinion.

jjae6

P.S: Thanks souley & ikar for ... current donations: $10.92

Incidentally... I have put up "for sale" on ebay, my cutting "Cect W800", only to europe at the moment. ( If someone wants to make a donation, gets a part gift .search on ebay "cect w800")
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] samali13:
SMS now receiving

I just bough a W800 during my recent trip in China and also found its SMS not receiving. I have gotten it to work, but need more testing.

This is how I tried:

Try to send SMS to your own number, on mine, the first SMS is going nowhere but the second and so is ok, however when the unit is on standby sometimes it bis not receiving.

This is what I did:

1. Apply the Autosuspend patch.cab (from eten)

2. copy the new SMS_Providers.dll using Total commander to the \Windows subdirectory

3. Add these entries in the registry:

HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2

AppName=tmail.exe

DLL=SMS_Providers.dll

ExportPrefix=Class2

Name=Microsoft SMS Class2 Protocol

Params=-Class2

Priority=19 (Dec)

All are string, except Priority is Dword

I did this based on looking at registry entries of my other windows mobile phones and they were included but missing from the W800.

I do not have a clear understanding of exactly what I did, but after resetting the unit, it is now receiving SMS, if any, missing the first one and there after never miss ones even during standby ....

However, someone with better knowledge must know better, I welcome anyone to test/report as how their unit perform

Sam
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] difylos:
Anybody knows where we can find an extra usb charging cable ;

:)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Ally153:
Has anyone tried pairing a bluetooth GPS unit with the W800?

I bought one for better reception, but sadly the handset doesn't even see the GPS unit! I've managed to pair the GPS unit to my PC and a Sony K700i.

I've been looking for extra USB cables for this unit too!

I noticed jjae6 mentioned that one of the CECT imitation iPhones has the same connector, but wired differently. As I'm not so hot with re-wiring/soldering cables like that it would be nice if I could buy one which works from the get go!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] winer22:
Please help

Anyone have these problems?

I can load phone only by USB cable. It do not work without USB cable.

If i leave phone to load it loads until i get message that 1% battery left and stops loading.

Also i can't activate USB cable with my PS and when i insert sim card, phone do not recognize it :(

Is it possibly to repair these problems?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Ally153:
Winer, I had a similar problem with my unit - it turned out to be a faulty battery, mines came with two, so I use the spare now. The mobile won't sync with your comp unless you have ActiveSync/Device Centre installed. The sim one I don't know unless it's inserted wrong?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Hi samali...I can not verify this (sms reception), but .... i see

The new sms_providers.dll is a dll "signed" and 6 difference found. (and the added certificate difference)

Offsets: hexadec.

new old

138:	5C	00

139:	5F	00

13A:	01	00

179:	8C	00

17C:	50	00

17D:	05	00

Well in http://ozekisms.com/index.php?owpn=223, i find that:

SMS message types Class2

SMS:TEXT:GSM7BIT:CLASS2 ===> A text SMS message. Class2 indicates that the message should be stored on the SIM card.

I think.....

The registry "HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2" , this record makes the method of access to the "SMS", ie with the sim card directly.... so if we could access the sms by "simmanager" workaround, But not through tmail ( so far) by that branch missing (class2) of the registry.... This may be a good explanation...

jjae6.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I think it is possible, I think it was modifying the registry and associating the COM6 ... But now I can no longer check.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I think that your battery does not make good contact with the 3 pins.

Remove the cover, remove the battery, place the battery and push the battery upwards until you hear a little "click". Try it.

For your sim card... close de gsm phone with your up icon "flight mode ---> x appears", make a softreset....and remove the battery.. put your battery and start.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] winer22:
Thanks for trying to help, but didn't worked :( I have 2 batterys but it is the same problem. It shows what charging, but after some time battery shows 1% and stop charging. I do not understand why marker --> on USB cable which conects to phone have to be under. Usually it is above.

I am ready to pay some $ for help, if my phone begin to work normal!!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Try to install this .cab in your W800.

But before save everything, or make a backup, since, if not working must be make a reset..

DO NOT extract this file, copy this .cab in your memory card or memory phone and run.

PS: Current donations: $10.92
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] dAV84:
Antaris chipset GPS

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4630.pdf

a rom possible?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] ikar:
In my w800 - your solution don't work;
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Ally153:
Do we need a rom? The unit works fine after-all - unless the reception has somehow been reduced from using the G500 rom. That may be a point though - even with the patch antenna installed I find the recpetion to be wanting at best. It takes a good few minutes to get a fix, where my parent's Garmin will do so in under a min. Is there any way for WM devices to take advantage of the A-GPS?

That part should be fine - my problem is when searching for bluetooth devices the GPS unit doesn't even show up :(. I know I'd doing the pairing right because it works with other devices (PC etc). And my W800 works because I use a Jabra BT320 regularly.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Ally153:
Did a little more digging - the Antaris chips don't have as good sensitivity to sirfstar without the SuperSense firmware loaded. I'm doubtful that the better firmware is loaded given the additional costs. Shame we can't attach a JTAG connector and had the 'better' firmware handy to flash up it's firmware!

I take it there would be no other way of flashing the GPS chip?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
I can not prove this, but ...You can add a modem profile bluetooth with a:

Pocket Bluetooth Tools: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

and

Guide: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/guide_e.html
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Ally153:
Thanks for the advice, sadly I already have that installed and it doesn't help. The problem is it won't even see there is a device there to pair with when searching.

My PC finds the GPS unit fine though - so does another phone - why not the W800?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] aqualogic:
Hi There,

I have paired a BT-308 bluetooth GPS with my w800 without any probs at all and tested on tomtom, it works perfect. Regarding the onboard Antaris gps chipset I think it probably has the new firware inside and they are or should be on par with sirf3, so i think it takes time to lock on satellites due to no antenna, i dont know exactly but is there an antenna inside where the antaris is attached to give more reception maybe JJAE^ can reply he took his apart.

when i tested w800 with its external antenna it will lock on sats in the same time as my bt-308 bluetooth gps , and this proves that w800 internal antenna is the problem for slow or no sat lock... ie. bt gps and ext. antenna have nearly same size metal antenna inside, i doubt phone has and metal antenna inside

PS. I am running g500 wwe 110 soft and found it to work identical to w800 soft. The windows version is the same so i think they are both identical roms just changed the header when resetting.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
Hi Aqualogic, I see

Antenna 1.

In the file I sent you "w800_strip_jjae6.pdf", on page 10 there is a metallic coating (that protects all the chips), the coating makes contact through two metal wings above until the two sides of the outer metal of our W800 casing

Antenna 2.

On page 1, 2

In the casing that brings speakers and is open to the battery at the bottom has two contact with a metal surface hidden.

YES IDENTICAL ROMS, except some data of bootloader...

jae6.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] arti4:
Please how to enter in bootloader.

I have the same cect w800 .
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
1 .- Is it possible that the bluetooth is blocked by anything application? Make a reset.

2 .- Look for the "taskmanager" ((TaskMgr.exe) pocket application at internet, and see services and drivers installed and available.. and put here your data...Maybe some service is not started.

But before you test point 1.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
You already can enter in bootloader mode with the combination:

“Stylus reset in the hole reset” + “power button” (3 seconds) , and now release only “powerbutton” (Keeping the stylus in the hole)

Now you can view various texts in your boot:

USB Downloader 0013h

USB Downloader Ready.

USB Host is not connected yet. .........
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] solatges:
Sdhc new patch for 8gb card possible??

I know that I m off topic but I have seen that a sdhc patch is already post for the W800. But,it only detects 3,7 gb of my 8gb card (like a 4gb card in fact). I discoverd that the driver works only fine under windows mobile 6. So,can you make a such driver for the W800 for wm5? or can we upgrade the w800 with windows mobile 6?

regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] solatges:
Help me

Help !!

I have tested a lot of sdhc patch and now my w800 cant read a card (2gb or 8gb...). I have changed the value of HLM\System\storagemanager of the unload and waitio Delay.. can somebody tell me the full registrery in HLM\System\storagemanager and in HLM\System\storagemanager\profiles and send me the defaut "sdbus.dll" and "sdmemory.dll".

I fear that the reader is dead..

Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] solatges:
Too late ^^

I have made a hard reset :( And it works again ^^ Just need to reinstall the programs..

But still need a 8gb patch.

Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jjae6:
If the patch does not work, you should make a hardreset!

Try this, first: SDHC.777.cab and sofreset

jjae6.

PS: Current donations: $10.92
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] difylos:
What about the gsm error

Has anyone fixed this im loosing calls every day :confused:
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] arti4:
Thank you for help about the bootloader.

I like change the windows mobile 5 eng with WM5 or WM6 french.