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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
right now only the OTA version is available. Are you looking for the OTA? Full firmware version has not been released by Motorola/Verizon.

[OTA] Official Marshmallow build MCG24.251-5

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/ota-official-marshmallow-build-mcg24-t3512813

Unlock your bootloader prior to taking this update or you may never get another chance.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5

https://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/fxz-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3531571

Only took Verizon a MONTH from the time they deployed the OTA. (sarcasm)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bayou11medic:
i just updated mine. not rooted and not encrypted. but now its bricked. stuck in boot loop with "no command" error. soft and hard reset did nothing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
The "no command" screen in the recovery menu is not an error. Hold power and quickly press volume up to get past it. To fix your phone, do the following:

1. Boot your phone into bootloader mode by powering on the phone while holding volume down. You should see a dead green android.

2. Download, install and run this program: http://www.motorola.com/verizonsoftwareupdatewin

3. When it tells you to plug your phone into your PC, do so.

4. Select the option to restore your phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] halfpgl:
Hello, I must be going.

Bone Stock, Encrypted. Successful OTA to MM. The initial Moto logo seemed to take forever to clear when rebooting. It was worrying but it cleared after several minutes.

This (then) "flagship" phone has taken so long to get any updates it's now time to get a new one just as something happened.

Goodbye Moto...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] citybear57:
Works!

This worked after many tries. First downloading from the Windows executable to the phone failed a few times, then the update failed many times at about 80% with a "failed to validate boot image" message. Finally it claimed success, rebooted and now has a message box indicating "Android is upgrading... Optimizing app 40 of 155"

I have no idea what if anything I did different.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Q9Nap:
I'll have access to the fastboot as soon as it becomes official, but would really like a copy of the soak test. Surprising that no one has made it publicly available, despite the nda.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Best guess is that they're all inexperienced Verizon customers. Poor things.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bzxzlg:
Has anyone in the soak gotten the update yet? Just wondering as that would give the rest of us a general idea on when we would get the final post-soak update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
My guess is not. I got a third email from them today asking me to sign up for the soak.

I did not because I have 6.0.1 on my phone so the OTA won't work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kingersj1:
I just got a 3rd invite as well, but I'm on 7.1, so no way I am going to take their OTA.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zvadim:
VoLTE and visual voicemail app.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
I use google voice and unless I am mistaken it has most of the same features. It also sends email and text transcriptions of the email. The only thing about the VoLTE is missing voice/data and that is not very often.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Visual voice mail is attainable on non stock roms. So really just volte and Boot time Is the only benefits.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
What does the visual voice mail do the google voice does not? I never used it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You can install Verizon visual voicemail on several of the custom ROMs. Not sure why you think you can't. Have you used RR or Bliss (and others)?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zvadim:
I went from stock to the Brazilian 6.01. Have not tried the others.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I'm running the latest crDroid (CM14.1, android 7.1) and running a fully functional visual voicemail. Installed from play store, no trickery required.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=5747496]bhb27[/MENTION] adds Moto app permission flags to his ROMs, like RR and crDroid. Most (not all, but almost all) Moto apps can be downloaded on his ROMs. Other ROMs like Bliss by [MENTION=7237874]NepoRood[/MENTION]and and the unofficial CM13 by [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] (and probably the unofficial CM14, since it's the same dev [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION]) use his coding to also do that.

He doesn't include them already installed on his ROMs, because some people don't want them. But you can go to the Play store and download, install them if you wish.

I know this is a Verizon voicemail app, but since the Droid Turbo is also a Quark, he included that too. Which I would not want anywhere near my phone, since I'm not a Verizon customer. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] helobubba88:
I signed up when the original invitation was sent out but haven't heard anything since.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
QUOTE=helobubba88;69528102]I signed up when the original invitation was sent out but haven't heard anything since. [/QUOTE]

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Another cruel hoax on the part of Moto/VZ.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Coronado is dead:
They've done this with soaks in the past. Sent the invites, waited, and then just released it. So it could go either way still.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Jcase confirmed that he received the soak firmware. It's real.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Coronado is dead:
That is correct, I forgot jcase posted that. Still, I believe they've canceled a soak after a bug was found before, so I will still stay cautiously optimistic :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Jcase has his sources, but for the rest of us we have to wait on the depleted moto software group to get to us. Hopefully it will be out this week.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jco23:
where did he post that info?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sting5566:
He posted it on here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
From another thread in this forum:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Just said it was MM, never mentioned if it was soak or otehrwise (i dont know)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Well, whatever. I just can't wait to get a really good reason enough to factory reset this bad boy and start from scratch.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Well... if you received a marshmallow update from Motorola, either they picked you for the soak test or they just like you way more than the rest of us. Unless you're just trying to not violate soak test rules. In which case...soak test? What soak test? There is no such thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
I'm beginning to suspect that this soak test is nothing more than another round of malevolent chain yanking by Big Red.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
It's a continuing private internal soak that will be released to all Verizon customers at once.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einheit-101:
We get Android 6 when Google released Android 8, it's just beyond ridiculous
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Funny we already have 7.1 ROMs. Vzw can suck it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Septfox:
Heck, they can keep the full ROM at this point, they're so far behind the curve. I just want them to release the radio to see if it stabilizes 7.1 any.

(probably not I guess, it looks to be primarily a gapps issue)

Though it would be neat if our Quark devs could get a good look at their hopefully-now-standardized VoLTE implementation.

A question to those experienced with other companies...as I've only actually had three Android phones, all were Verizon and two were past EOL:

Is a private soak test a common thing, or specific to Verizon variants? It seems like I've read of OEMs (mostly Google, I think) posting up full firmware images for their customers to try at their own risk before official releases, none of this silly hush-hush NDA nonsense.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Pnevma:
Motorola does it for non-Verizon devices as well
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
We have Marshmallow without VoLTE. And we have unstable/buggy 7.1 without VoLTE.

I hope Vzw does not suck it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
and you have STABLE, well-running 7.0 without VoLTE. It's still Nougat. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Honestly we just need the mm Verizon radio and kernel source. I'll be waiting for the rom release on Thanksgiving or black Friday.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
I am betting a little later in the year. Let the new flagships gain sells that are still on marshmallow and not let them be comparable to a 2 year old device.

21 megapixel camera, 2k screen, 3gb ram, with a quad core for $150 rivals many devices still.

I personally wouldn't trade mine for most of this years flagships.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 3Dota:
yup ... can't agree no more ...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Yup same here

New flagships don't have anything that is missing from our Droid Turbo

I won't change mine until I see a phone worth changing to..maybe in 2018 xD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Agreed. Also throw in the IR sensors as well as the Qi wireless charging (which is my favorite feature).

That's why I bought a 3rd Quark (new in the box) last spring as backup for mine and my wife's daily phones. I suspected we would be keeping them until at least sometime in 2017. Maybe even 2018? :confused:

Google lost me as a Nexus fanboi (at least for the phones) with the whale Nexus 6 and they still haven't won me back. Yes, even re-naming their phones "Pixel" doesn't fool me. :rolleyes:

We even have

stable Nougat custom ROM for all Quarks if you stick with 7.0 version for right now

, until [MENTION=5747496]bhb27[/MENTION] gets 7.1 straightened out.

You can even have the Pixel Google Assistant!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Flashing over the new radio is easy enough. What about the Motorola functionality?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
IF you are asking about custom ROMs, the answer is still this:

Stock Moto apps for custom rom

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/stock-moto-apps-custom-rom-t3473170

You get everything but VoLTE (which is Verizon, NOT Motorola), and that's still being worked on.

For over a year, you have had almost all Moto Apps on many custom ROMs. ROM devs like [MENTION=5747496]bhb27[/MENTION] put in the permission flags so you can download and install the Moto apps you wish, from the Play Store.

The main exception is Quark Ambient Display in place of Moto Display. You just have to set it up correctly. The CM dev coded the Quark Ambient Display to emulate Moto Display. See settings here:

motorola display

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/motorola-display-t3503924
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I had most, if not all, of the same issues on 7.0 that I had on 7.1. crDroid, in my opinion, is not ready for prime time. Unofficial CM14.1 is a little better, but it still has issues that over time became deal-breaking for me.

Now I know that this is absolutely to be expected, and the fact that we have nougat roms as soon as we do is pretty impressive, but I'm just saying that I can see why someone would still be very interested in a stock rom that just works without any quirks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
And you used 7.0 Banks GAPPS with 7.0 crDroid? Because many people reported no reboots with that setup and some went back to that when the 7.1 issues hit.

[MENTION=5747496]bhb27[/MENTION] doesn't even use GAPPS and he has no reboots at all. So, for 7.0 at least we narrowed it to the GAPPS. Banks GAPPS for 7.0 got the best reviews.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
No, I used open gapps, but I really don't understand why one provider of gapps would be any different from any other. Are they not both the signed, official apps from Google? The random reboots that I was getting were very infrequent and sometimes happened in the middle of the night, so I am skeptical of the people who say that Banks is significantly better. I suspect that they either just installed them, ran the rom for a day and concluded that it was working fine (I was getting an average of one reboot every 2-3 days), or they were lucky enough to have all their random reboots occur while they were sleeping. Also, I was reading a lot about how most of the people experiencing this issue were XT1254 users, so I think it's also possible that the Banks group coincidentally has more users of the other quark models.

But even without the random reboots, there are other reasons why I went back to Brazilian stock. Android Wear is completely non-functional without a build.prop edit, and even when you make that edit, the only watch functions that work are pushed notifications from the phone. When I tried any other functions, it gave me the message that it could not communicate with the phone even though my bluetooth settings, the Wear app and the watch itself all said it was connected. Also, as a heavy Facebook user (I know, I suck), the random video zoom-ins is extremely irritating. BHB recommended messing with the resolution of the phone to fix it, but I was unwilling to do that as I don't think that will solve the problem. In most cases, the video starts off playing normally, but then sometimes it will randomly decide to zoom in on the upper left corner of the video. The fact that it starts off playing normally, and that the issue sometimes doesn't even happen, tells me that there is nothing wrong with the phone's resolution. Speaking of Facebook, it will not allow me to edit my posts using the app on crDroid. BHB brushed this off as an app issue when I brought it up in that thread, but the issue does not occur on CM 14.1 unofficial. Imagine not being able to edit your posts in the aftermath of the 2016 US election! It was a nightmare.

And lastly, the inferior cell signal reception that seems to be a hallmark of CM, while improved, definitely makes a comeback in CM14.1 roms. I suffered about 20-30% battery drain overnight from cell standby, and it definitely was not an issue of it being misreported. I went to bed with 30% battery and luckily woke up in the morning in time for work, because the alarm on my dead phone couldn't wake me up. Now that I've gone back to Brazilian stock, I went to bed with about 15% and woke up to my alarm with a little more than 10%. So my conclusion is that CM14.1 has issues, and that's okay because it's in its infancy, but it needs some serious polish before I put it on my phone again.

PS I get that BHB doesn't use gapps, doesn't experience issues and has therefore concluded that the rom is stable, but with all due respect to him (and I mean that. I respect him a great deal and I'm very grateful for his work), what good is an Android rom that is broken by gapps?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Just to show you Verizon really couldn't care less about Droid Turbo:

Verizon Begins Rolling Out Nougat to the Moto Z Droid & Moto Z Droid Force

https://www.xda-developers.com/veri...ougat-to-the-moto-z-droid-moto-z-droid-force/

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It's not that simple, in my opinion.

I'm not a GAPPs expert, but when I just re-installed them for RR Marshmallow update, two the script notes I saw flash on the screen were:

"removing conflicting apks"

"setting permissions"

What if that weren't done completely right? Especially with a new OS (Nougat), I can see how there could be some difference, where 3rd party coders are still figuring out the OS. So, slight conflict in GAPPS could easily cause reboots.

I know for the longest time Paranoid Android's GAPPs were the "best", even though there were other GAPPS providers... Some devs are better than others. ;)

Same way Chainfire's SuperSu has historically worked better than other superuser apks, I can see how some GAPPs would also work better than others -- especially when installing multiple APKs and setting permissions. Isn't superuser all the same? No, I've been on the other end of opensource superuser that didn't work right. :rolleyes: A few years ago, one ROM team berated users for using Chainfire's SuperSu, saying they should use the open source superuser provided in the ROM. New OS came out, their recommended superuser didn't work right. Guess what? They recommended Chainfire "temporarily" until they got their coding mess straightened out. Took weeks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jco23:
I agree with both of you (@thest33v and [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION]), but I'm a minimalist - meaning that I subscribe to the notion that the fewer apps/processes/tweaks you have on your phone, the less problems you'll have - even if all of the additional components are "stable". it's kind of like adding too many spices to the soup. hence the reason why I prefer a stock-based ROM with xposed/GB. while I'm sure those CM-based ROMs work fine for some (and with the right tweaks, it could be 95% stable for all), I like to have reliability over excess features.

that being said, I did make the jump to the brazilian MM ROM - only to sacrifice VoLTE, which I'm now seeing that I may have missed.... nonetheless, I'd prefer to wait for the official VZW update than go to CM. afterall, the LP version for this device was working perfectly, even paired with my watch.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I see what you're saying, and you could be right, but I don't think your superuser example is a fair comparison. Any of the open sourced superuser management apps are completely different applications from both each other and SuperSU, so if some work better than others, that's to be expected. But gapps are gapps. Youtube from Banks is just as much Youtube as Youtube from whoever maintains the "open" collection. So other than potential issues in the installation scripts like you mentioned, they should behave equivalently. However, as widely used as both of these packages are, I would expect that if these issues were being caused on CM variants on other devices, someone would have figured out the issue and solved it by now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Verizon released Nougat to Moto Z Droid

Could our Droid Turbo be on the way?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69743315&postcount=64
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
Sorry, No.

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Has there been any new info on this or was the soak test just a cruel hoax? I spoke with VZ a few months ago and they said the DT was a retired device so I was surpised to see they would do an update. But maybe they won't after all?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] VincentCode88:
This soak test is all bull**** .. no marshmallow update is coming on dt
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Okmed:
You are probably right.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 3Dota:
just wait a bit ... might be ... ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
It was more of an internal soak test. Not many, if any, actual droid turbo users were included. We are due for a marshmallow update in November or December. Past experience would suggest probably December. Chances on a big red will be cruel and make it a post Christmas present.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 3Dota:
it's Nov 25 here in Indonesia ... any news?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Yeah, hold your breath like everyone else!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jrmt077:
Just remember the date on the stimulator was 10-25, consistent with the day of release for lollipop on that simulator.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Septfox:
Considering the usual glacial pace of Verizon's everything...yea, I'm not very hopeful it'll be before then.

In fact, I'd bet on them waiting until after new years so as to milk the most money out of their customers. Why distribute an update to a perfectly adequate phone, when you can take advantage of the holidays and people's patience wearing thin? Delay the OTA just a bit longer to "encourage" them to give up, and sell them an overpriced new phone when they do. Maybe run some mild sales to convince them that for a limited time, they can overpay slightly less.

Oh wait, they're doing that already. Welp.

Go on, try to convince me that the above would be unlike Verizon :v
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
VZW likely all pissed at the unlocked bootloaders.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
but I am an innocent simple person with locked bootloader :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
If I were Verizon, and I wanted to minimize the number of unlocked bootloaders, I would do that by releasing bootloader-patching updates as quickly as possible.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
I doubt Verizon cares at all.

Believe it or not it's a security issue and in their best interest to keep them safe from vulnerabilities.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
And yet T-mobile provides many of the same model phones with unlocked bootloaders. Don't drink the Verizon Kool-aid. They are just control freaks who want their bloatware to stay on for more money. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
How many of you are admins over your parents pc's leaving them simply users?

Yes there are mild benefits to them locking the bootloader but when the numbers are crunched in the grand scheme of things the money isn't going to be there to care.

Selling secure devices to corporate offices and never getting egg on their faces by a virus destroying phones/privacy is what I'd wager drives them.

I'd do the exact same if I were them.

We are a small group of people who idiotically hopes for a vulnerability that has the ability to destroy our phones so that we can own them fully.

Everyone else in the world wants the patch.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Once you purchase a phone, Verizon doesn't care. You are 1 more subscriber out of millions. Updates are only a thing (for carriers) because they can be used as a marketing tool. I remember when this phone was marketed as going to get mm "very soon" after release lol. We'll probably get mm eventually, but they are in no hurry.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cell2011:
Is this real because I also saw something on the Verizon simulator showing Android 6.0.1 on there site
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Because MM exists on other country's Turbo, but not yet released in the U.S.