yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sailfish General] madb1lly:
I did a bit of digging around on this the past week, it's quite an interesting project to consider.

The source that was released was called "Symbian^3" (Symbian OS v9.5 and S60 v5.2). There was probably some other stuff in the repositories that wasn't exactly related to Symbian^3 but since I'm not an expert I don't know the difference.

Nokia soon made the source closed again (I don't know how that's legally permitted for stuff derived from public EPL-licensed code, anyone have any idea?) and continued development in house. The last version of Symbian was "Nokia Belle FP2" (Symbian OS v10.1 and S60 v5.5). So there's changes to both the core and the platform/UI that were not released as source code. I've no idea what the developments are, but for anyone starting a project it would be useful to have the latest sources (especially since Qt on ^3 was weak compared to Belle).

The mediafire link above has loads of tools (and books!), the publicly released source is in several places on the web, as is the source for some of the incubator projects. As was noted above, the most interesting project (in terms of this thread) was Wild Ducks which got S^3 running on a Beagleboard (OMAP3, like some S60 5rd edition phones from Sony and Samsung). Symbian also demoed a version running on a NovaThor test setup (Cortex-A9) but this didn't go anywhere and I don't know if the source was released.

In terms of getting it to run on "Android" devices, I think this is very ambitious as first step! After investigating I would first try and get it running on an OMAP3 Beagleboard (if you can find one), then try porting it to another SBC, either also running a Cortex-A8 CPU or an ARM11 CPU (last Nokia Symbian phones used single-core ARM11, not Cortex). Ideally the GPU would be PowerVR (as in OMAP) or Broadcom VideoCore (as in latest Nokia Symbian phones). FYI Raspberry Pis have VideoCore and ARM11 or Cortex CPUs (but not Cortex-A8). Only after successful porting to similar hardware would it be realistic to look at real phone hardware. However, perhaps I'm being pessimistic myself.

In summary, my first step would be to target Beagleboard or equivalent OMAP3 SBC; second would be an ARM11/Cortex-A8 and PowerVR/VideoCore SBC; third would be real phone hardware.

Now I've written my thoughts down I might try it myself!
[Sailfish General] 4ngl09669:
I have the PDK of all version of Symbian. About 13 GB if I'm not mistaken.
[Sailfish General] madb1lly:
I found a lot after some searching. The makers of the Delight custom firmware made their collection available online and a few others have done the same (on an archive of the symbian.org wiki and in web.archive.org, amongst others). I can't remember all the versions I now have, but it includes:

Symbian PDK 3.0.4.a

Symbian PDK 4.0.a

Symbian PDT 1.7.0

Various SDKs for Qt, Symbian^3, Belle and older versions of S60.

I've put more thought into this since my post above. It's a huge amount of work, with many possible dead-ends. My approach would be incremental steps, attempting a baseport to a similar device each time, e.g. Syborg QEMU emulator -> Beagleboard -> Pandaboard (like the Wild Ducks project) (needs to be SMP safe) -> another SBC with ARMv7-A multi-cores but from another SoC vendor (not TI) -> ARMv8-A multi-core. Maybe an intermediate step to add asymmetric multiprocessing support as well.

I'd take this incremental approach because I'd be learning all the way, but someone who already knows what they're doing with drivers, multi-processing, ARM architectures, etc. could probably go straight to a modern phone-equivalent SBC; or even a phone ;)
[Sailfish General] fedor4ever:
Well, symbian source dumped at sf.net and source code cloned at bitbucked too with full history.

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Hi all! I saw i not alone at my researches :) I recomend pasberry pi as start point because they have gpu open source driver with manufacture documentation.

I spend a lot time with fixing elf2e32 whitch sometimes fails to build symbian apps. Now it doesn't fails but inserts many zeros at certain points.
[Sailfish General] brainycaleb:
Sorry for waking the thread but it's almost 2018, no android phone has been able to achieve that level of multitasking!
[Sailfish General] trax7:
Note several things:

1. Symbian apps were way smaller and less functional, intuitive and fast. Symbian apps are nothing compared to Android apps.

2. The implementation of multitasking is fundamentally different between the platforms.

3. Symbian does not run on a VM. Thus, you will need to recompile and keep track of different versions of the same app for every CPU architecture.

Those are only the things off the top of my head. I am not bashing or defending anything, just want to clear things up why they are different amd why a comparison is not applicable :)
[Sailfish General] atrack2008:
Sailfish OS for ZE551ML

Hi, I want to know if there will be (soon or not) any solution to get sailfish os on the Asus zenfone 2 ze551ml. I know , this phone isn't the the adaptation list, but, i had to ask.
[Sailfish General] trax7:
That's... Not the thread's topic but I'll answer you - look in the forums for Sailfish development. If you can't find anything - answer is no.
[Sailfish General] nift4:
[MENTION=6570468]AceT2213[/MENTION] let's revive your dream - http://qemu.org . They don't do anything Symbian or Android specific but it probably would be more easy to have an minimal linux and an lightweight VM with Symbian!
[Sailfish General] varun.naharia:
Are you still working on this ?
[Sailfish General] nift4:
No, he doesn't.
[Sailfish General] Ambyan:
Hi,

during the last week or so I searched in many of the Android developer Forums and I sadly need to disappoint you, that we can't do it with a Moto E. BUT (!) I found that in a few forums people were talking about a guy who made Symbian drivers for the HTC inspire 4G. This comes with two huge positives:

1. The drivers would save us a lot of time in the creation of the port of Symbian.

2. Because it is for the HTC inspire 4G, it would make for a pretty futureproof phone.

There is only one last little problem to overcome: We need to find out who exactly that guy is and get the drivers from him. But I am confident that this will be easy.

So, who is with me? :)
[Sailfish General] sa-nair:
i know im a bit late to the party and all but,

symbian used to have 3 main design principles:-

the integrity and security of user data is paramount

user time must not be wasted

all resources are scarce

if we are going to do something it's best to follow these principles.
[Sailfish General] E.jonibek93:
good afternoon, not so long ago AI appeared to help OS development, why not use them

or contact veteran programmers who worked in Symbian, they can recommend something good that would help everything
[Sailfish General] Rajdza:
Hello everyone, recently someone developed project called ekal2l1

GitHub - EKA2L1/EKA2L1: A Symbian OS/N-Gage emulator

A Symbian OS/N-Gage emulator. Contribute to EKA2L1/EKA2L1 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

which needed to download symbian os rom to install (there is video tutorial on youtube of installing full symbian rom on this emulator)

so it can run symbian games https://eka2l1.github.io/

( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.eka2l1 )

so i was thinking is there any possible way to use android as base but without gui that run this emulator as device starts and use some kind of launcher ( like this for example https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com.oldphone.launcher ) to be as kinda new phone os (idk how to call it) and even it can be implemented launcher from symbian belle to act as full symbian os at the end. I know there is not any kind of app store but there is a lot of aps that can be downloaded somewhere from google. One of sites i still remember i downloaded aps for my nokia n95 was waptrick.com and getjar.com which still works even today.

Im sorry my english is a little bit bad, im sorry for that, but i hope you guys understand what i am trying to say.
[Sailfish General] Cuonglla117:
Nah i think revive windows phone better than this
[Sailfish General] Klangerzeuger:
This is simply impossible, otherwise someone out there would have already done it and ported SymbianOS to ARM SOCs. I grew up with DOS and also experienced SymbianOS. A port is like trying to get a GTX 4090 to run under Win95... which is complete nonsense.
[Sailfish General] Rajdza:
It would, but as new os (windows phone 11 for example) with new devices and not as project witch actually exists and people are already flashing os to run android devices.
[Sailfish General] Rajdza:
Than how someone developed already developed emulator for symbian apps and they are working fine on android phones.
[Sailfish General] Klangerzeuger:
Because Symbian apps could already be pulled or changed from the device with root. I did that myself back then. And with an emulator you can make everything work, it's not rocket science.

But what is much more difficult is to make a complete OS, which is closed source like iOS, accessible to everyone. It's impossible because otherwise Nokia would be taking the risk that someone could further develop their OS and make a profit from it.
[Sailfish General] Cuonglla117:
I think it should be nice if Microsoft really put their time and effort to help developers make the app for their OS . It's a shame that Windows Phone has been shut down.
[Sailfish General] Rajdza:
True, but i would like to use android as base os, just because of newer hardware and drivers and then automaticly start emulator as os boot (like i posted earlyer to run symbian apps) with somekind of launcher to look like symbian os. I remembered i installed symbian os theme to my huawei phone back than (without launcher ofc) and it was beautifull looking). There are launchers already on play store which simulates even hardware (check it out, i posted already) and just imagine if you can combine that with that emulator. Im not saying to developed symbian os from scratch ofc, just to combine android emulator and launcher would be great.

Btw Nokia published their OS to be open sourced. Im sure you can find full source code on github as many people already posted, but since symbian is already dead, no one can profit from it, since android and ios already took marketplace and nothing can beat it.
[Sailfish General] Rajdza:
Man i loved Windows Phone OS and i already had Nokia Lumia 1520 when it was released. That OS worked so fluently, it just makes me cry when they discontinued further support. I mean at the start they screwed up i guess with allowing developers making their own apps (i didnt follow what was actully happening with that), but it is what it is.
[Sailfish General] Mouki Zmok:
After reading the whole thread, my dream didn't even blossom( but it was fun. Perhaps magic is needed to resurrect Symbian OS or a really active rewrite with the help of AI👾. It's very interesting to see what HMD Global is doing with Nokia smartphones. Judging by its aspirations to produce smartphones in Europe, it wants to become a regional regional leader. This is fascinating. Still, it gives me hope that maybe someday, when HMD Global has enough revenue, it will be able to reintegrate Symbian into its devices, maybe not necessarily into a smartphone, but into a music speaker, or a new cell phone with an updated Symbian, or some smart headphones based on Symbian OS. I may be writing some nonsense, )) but given the development of artificial intelligence, I want to believe in miracles)
[Sailfish General] rony raj:
check this out

Releases · brunodev85/winlator

Android application for running Windows applications with Wine and Box86/Box64 - brunodev85/winlator

github.com
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] sitnlow4life:
Just playing something out in my head ...

If I buy a 32gb Pixel XL from Verizon which is normally $750.00 then I get the 20% off at purchase .

That brings me to $600.00

Then what if I bring that phone over to my T-Mobile plan and get the $350.00 credit ?

Essentially the phone would cost me only $150.00 out of pocket .

I am not a verizon customer but buying outright online should be an issues right ?

What you guy think ?

That makes the
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] egren58:
lol iam thinking of the same thing.. bro im so tempted
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] KrackAssKracker:
I believe that only applies to the Google Play Store version.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Psyclism:
The T-Mobile rebate promotion specifically states that the phone can be purchased from any source, you just need to have some sort of receipt to validate the purchase.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] egren58:
but we cant get a 20% discount unless is a Verizon costumer I called and they said the 20% promotion is only for costumers. :(
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] clockcycle:
Tmo states you get the credit if you buy the phone from anywhere except vzw.. You might want to confirm. (over zealous tmo help rep tweeted reply)

Also, not sure about how the vzw 20% is discounted (offer valid for costumers only), but tmo's offer is credit off your bill for 2 years of $13.25~/m when you switch plan to tmo one while #BYOPixel.

Out of pocket for the phone will be full price regardless. Craigslist, ebay, amazon, swappa purchases dont qualify either (original purchaser from authorized retailer). YMMV
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Radsolutionz:
Not true. U can buy the phone anywhere they will give u the deal as long as u are on auto pay And T-Mobile one plan.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] epsix:
To be on the safe side, just purchase it from Google Store.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
TeamHorizon's XenonHD rom builds for Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro (kenzo) & SE (kate)

http://www.xenonhd.com/

XenonHD is a custom firmware aka ROM for various Android devices. It is based on LineageOS with additional features, performance and battery life improvements.

The idea behind XenonHD is to give users a ROM that is "blazing fast, rock stable and buttery smooth".​

Device Source:

android_device_xiaomi_kenzo

android_device_xiaomi_msm8956-common

android_kernel_xiaomi_kenzo

proprietary_vendor_xiaomi

Flashing Instructions:

To install this ROM you will need to have a latest custom Recovery such as TWRP installed.

Copy the downloaded ROM to your phone.

Boot into your recovery

Back up your ROM

Enter recovery

Make a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik)

Install the ROM

Install GAPPS package

Reboot - the first boot can take up to 5 minutes

Download Links:

Recovery: TWRP

Firmware: kenzo / kate

ROM: Official / experimental

Gapps: opengapps.org

Changelog: Official / experimental

[YOUTUBE]ytE8kHc2HPc[/YOUTUBE]​

XDA:DevDB Information

Official XenonHD 7.1 ROM by TeamHorizon, ROM for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3

Contributors

dadi11, khan_frd2002

Source Code: https://github.com/TeamHorizon

ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.10.x

ROM Firmware Required: Unlocked BL, Recovery

Based On: LineageOS

Version Information

Status: Testing

Created 2016-11-02

Last Updated 2017-08-08
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Reserved

Main features:

XenonOTA

XenonHD Changelog

Nova Launcher

Root, adb, dev options & installing apks enabled by default

Material sounds & icons

Removed unnecessary things

Under the hood improvements and optimizations

...and more on the way!

Bugs:

-----------

Links:

G+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/110254322179967248992

Github: https://github.com/TeamHorizon?tab=repositories

Crowdin (translations): https://crowdin.com/project/xenonhd-rom

Changelog: Official / experimental
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] sam619:
reserved
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] GuestK00443:
reserved for review
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] freeforce:
There are too many rams that the camera does not work.

A completely working rom has not arrived yet.

I follow the rom.

Thanks.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] akinhd:
Downloading now and will report back with 24 hrs of usage
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] @ssasin.monish:
Camera doesn't work? Or works partially?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Bitti09:
It's a mirical for me that on a cm14.1 based rom the camera doesn't work at all.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] rhyme4u12:
Maybe working partially breaks something else, and OP decided to remove it till completely fix
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] abihary:
great...another official rom for our device :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] iwanova:
YASSS!

My favorite ROM after OmniROM and CM is here!

Reserved, I'll do backup and installing later :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Well, Snap was removed, camera2 doesn't open. However 3rd party apps may works if they're using other api
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] msfkonsole:
ahh finally released :D

so, this is some quick review

- yes is boot up.

- fingerprint works (mine is not goodix)

- running smooth with Agni kernel v2.8

- both camera & video recording works fine with stock camera (fixed by Agni kernel for some different camera driver)

overall smooth, only less tweaks on settings.
[MENTION=3792100]dadi11[/MENTION] thumbs up :good: :D
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Amarlina:
What gapps shall we use please anyone tested thanks
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] marko94:
Open gapps ( pico,nano,etc ) ,u choose :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Ekwan4943:
[MENTION=3792100]dadi11[/MENTION] thanks for hardwork with OTA supported, it's awesome,.

Whats dirtyflash has supported for next build? (safe gapps with backup tool)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Amarlina:
Thanks I meant 7.1 or the 7.0 I guess it s a 7.1 rom so I ll give it a go
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] marko94:
oh, sorry..7.1 :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Yes, backuptool works fine :)

Sent from Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] yasanglass:
All new updates need clean flash ? :(

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Afaik Agni changes it to permissive... I haven't tried this rom yet but on other roms its enforcing until u flash agni...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] cphua:
This rom has permissive by default read OP.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] yasanglass:
Oh OK!!!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] killaflow:
Nice ROM :) only minor issue is that on 3G I can't see the H but network traffic is counting...this also happened on beanstalk ROM...any fix? Thanks in advance
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] shisaya24:
I have the same issue on beanstalk - interested if anyone has any solution :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] rasik107:
great work !!!

thanks... :good:

google camera working fine... :D
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] abhimanyu.singh:
Do you want me to try agni 2.8

Now I am getting only network issue. Will it solve. I have used cm 14 firmware 0913. Is that correct firmware or any other I should use?

I'm on 4nov release with clean install.

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Network signal. Its showing x in the indicator and data is not working. Data starts working only after reboot.

I'm on 4nov release with clean install.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] manudhomra:
Got a new feel on my device just reinstalled clean flash along with the latest stock Gapps . Using pixel launcher and Google assistant along with the latest force touch feature incorporated in gapps. And now getting less fc while opening of apps. .
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] m4h38008:
Have u select sim for data use in setting...?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] rasik107:
great battery back-up...

LOVING IT :laugh:

any one flashed agni kernel ??
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] LepayDS:
i cant access the download link
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] abhimanyu.singh:
Read my comments properly dude.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] -xCeeD-:
Except camera and flashlight, everything works perfect.

Can anyone recommend any good camera app?

Default one's are little buggy.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] AgentBuBu:
Im using cm14 firmware with latest diamond kernel over 2nd november build with aroma gapps ( google camera ). Both cameras work perfectly, the only bug is the flash, happenes not to work 2/5 times, restarting the app solves temporarly thr issue, also switching between front and back cameras makes it crash, 1/5 times tho. Battery is OK, but nothing more.

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2524485 try this

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About the charge time, it charges just as fast as on cm13, 120-140mins, about 1%/min
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] MZO:
Just got this phone [MENTION=3792100]dadi11[/MENTION] :D gonna try this
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] kimpamyu:
Does Goodix fp type woking in the latest build if combine with Goodix patch?...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
Hello [MENTION=6304619]MZO[/MENTION] :D nice to see you again

If it doesn't need any kernel changes it should work with that goodix patch

Sent from Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] MZO:
Okay great, so camera force closes here? And goodix needs patch? (system/firmware + libs). Anyone tried Google Camera 4.1+?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dwarazyA:
clean istall when im update is nessesary?

to dadi:

dadi, jeśli brak testerów to z miłą chęcią, pozdrawiam.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] marko94:
[MENTION=3792100]dadi11[/MENTION] changelog for todays build ?

Changelog generator is broken I think

P.S working now :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Utkarsh Sirpurkar:
Extra tiles?

How do I use the extra tiles in quick settings? Also, can you please add the Sounds tile to quicksettings?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] dadi11:
No he doesn't

Just move it to the top like the other tiles. Sound tile is already there.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] wight554:
Goodix still not working

Please clean up all goodix commits, even the older one, you have and add only these

Wight554:

1) https://github.com/Dmitry-777/propr...mmit/4018a704467727c08f1a526969fa83e8dbe12904

2)https://github.com/Dmitry-777/andro...mmit/45164f288136ebd08f9783a021db218024747425

3) https://github.com/Dmitry-777/andro...mmit/3f1e60160b724db3e124969659eb431b7cf6e446

4) https://github.com/Dmitry-777/andro...mmit/ace896bd271a3176a465ba8abe241db89ad081cb

5) https://github.com/Dmitry-777/andro...mmit/e38f98579d842560c4abae6ea9ba35c88bdf358b
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Utkarsh Sirpurkar:
No sound tile

I see volume panel, heads up, a few substratum tiles, alarm and mixplorer. No sound tile. :/ I am on 16/04 build.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] realista87:
the opening thread isn't UPDATED with latest features... and options....
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] adithyan25:
Changelog will be in Between posts as per the release
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Saif Nahian:
Does it will work on Redmi Note 3 Kate version?? Please let me know. And Which TWRP will work fine in kate??