yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] KarhU:
I use the second one. Though in my language it is "Mo Bill" ("o" in "mo" like in "Colt")
[Off-topic] Midget_1990:
Err british (myslef at the least) prononce automobile as au-to-mo-beale not au-to-mo-bill
[Off-topic] borealcool:
That's right, as in example #3 of my original post.

As for Americans, they don't pronounce mobile as in mo-bill, mo-bial or mo-beale. They completely silence the "i" as in marble or noble.
[Off-topic] perasite:
Yeah, typically an American would say moe-bull.
[Off-topic] E_Shinobi:
Yes, this phonetic feature is called "ellision" and can be found often in AE.

BTW: correct spelling in International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) for the received pronounciation would be "ai" rather than "ia" concerning the vowel in the last syllable -"

Nope, I'm not even a native speaker of the English language ;) So I'm pretty objective when it comes to things like these.
[Off-topic] borealcool:
Élision is a French grammatical rule which consists in silencing the final vowel of a word if it precedes another word beginning with a vowel or silent h. For instance you would say l'article and not la article. Germans have another grammatical rule for ae, oe and ue.

why Americans silence the i in mobile is probably a question of dialect influenced by pop culture. For example an icon of American industry is Exxon-Mobil pronounced mo-ble.
[Off-topic] Mark Crouch:
One spanner.....back at ya!!!

Ah yes, that is true.....however (throws spanner back across the pond), the example you gave has a preceding syllable (or two ;)) - pronounced "or-toe", not "or-doe" as the Americans would have it :p

The same soft-pronunciation is true for words like "snowmobile" and "Oldsmobile" - both of which are American-originated words...guess us Limeys just copied the mis-pronunciation (having given up any hope of getting Americans to speak the language properly) and it's stuck....

This debate will undoubtedly run for many centuries to come - I for one will shortly be donning my disguise and emigrating to Outer Mongolia, lest an irate American should come looking for me :D

Mark.

PS. One final question.....I sometimes hear (in films....uhh..movies) the phrase "he's/she's/it's been 86'ed"....can anyone offer a) a translation into English, b) an explanation of the origin of that phrase.....please....
[Off-topic] borealcool:
I'm glad this thread is taking a hum

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r u-turn, I sort of had second thoughts after posting it :)

86ed is straight out of American pop culture and look no further than the Urban Dictionary for an answer :)
[Off-topic] Mark Crouch:
Thanks for that - it made for some interesting reading :) I've bookmarked that site in case I ever need anything else explained to me....

Oh, and don't worry about posting threads like this - it's good to have some off-topic light humour once in a while. It makes a nice change from all the ranting and stupid questions that the main forums are littered with :D

OK, it's 1am UK time.....I'm beat....."time for bed", said Zebedee (explained here)

Mark.
[Off-topic] borealcool:
Ok good night Zebedee, but you're not getting off that easily. When you're back, I want to know why the British pronounce words containing "aw", "au" and many words ending with an "a" as "AR". Don't send your "laryer" after me :D
[Off-topic] fzzyrn:
wow.....this thread is quickly becoming a phonetic wasteland

moe-bull is reasonable too.

i think there is no one correct way of saying mobile, just as there is no one correct way to say tomato or to spell humor (or humour).

As (i think) winston churchill put it, "america and great britain are two countries seperated by a common language"

besides, remember that in the UK, a lawyer can also be called a "barrister" (what?) or a solicitor (seperated by a common language indeed), just like some use to call an eraser a "rubber"

sorry for erroneously switching between UK and great britain and england and stuff. whats the difference, may i ask?
[Off-topic] fatouraee:
mo-bi-le is the way to go
[Off-topic] borealcool:
One man's wasteland (or insult apparently) is another's treasure trove. A reasonable explanation as to why Americans silence the "i" in mobile is precisely what I'm seeking. Care to contribute?
[Off-topic] perasite:
cuz we're lazy! :) :)

That's also why our teens type words like:

POS - Parent Over Shoulder

LOL

ROFL

cuz - Because

u - you

r - are

We wouldn't want to put too much effort into actually saying a "whole word!"
[Off-topic] varanusvincent:
we called it telepon genggam in Indonesian..

:D:D
[Off-topic] borealcool:
Microsoft, in all their corporate wisdom and international scope, pronounce it Windows Mo-ble:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/startdo
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
"POS - Parent Over Shoulder"

thats a new one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piece_of_****

is what i normaly see people mean by it

your version dident even make the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POS

guess they only had soo many places and

they just had to add

"Piarco International Airport"

:P
[Off-topic] freddex:
simply Mo-bow
[Off-topic] perasite:
Yeah, I wasn't going to define them, but when I re-read it, I know what everyone would take POS to mean. It's actually a common way, among many others, for them to let their friends know not to say anything stupid for a few minutes. (We all know kids can't go much longer than that without something coming out that'll get them in trouble :) )
[Off-topic] raskell:
Let's try to clear this up . . .

How does anyone pronounce the following word?

Mobility

Like the British would pronounce Nobility, and Americans Mobility, We Yanks simply drop the 'ity' and it is the same!
[Off-topic] borealcool:
Actually, you don't. If you did, it would sound like moe-bill and as others have confirmed, you pronounce it moe-bull. Listen to link #2 in my first post and Microsoft's video.
[Off-topic] sighted:
Just a little thought from a non-native English speaker: There's no doubt that English was created and molded in England and that would "automatically" imply that BE is the one to be aimed. That line of thought would be very natural, especially during the colonial British era. India, Australia, Ireland, South Africa among others (US included) received the "mother tongue" from the real (Royal?) source. But what have we seen? Due to the enormous difficulties of communication those days, the colonies all developed their "own English" and we were far from a single standard, specially in pronunciation. With time came the fall of influence of GB over those territories and more recently the development of new means of communication and cultural modification (movies, music) along with a new commercial and science wave which was led mainly by the US. To the rest of the world, AE was the one they rapidly received and wished to learn. With Internet AE became the "natural" choice for the rest of the world. As a self learned foreing English speaker (Portuguese is my native language), I can easily say that AE is far more accessible to the world than BE and despite all the changes AE made to the traditional BE, words seem more "natural" in AE which I dare to call the "Hollywood effect". Just to remember this is a completely outsider opinion and I have no intention to bring a final word to anything. It's just my 2 cents. All that's been said, I choose the "AE mobile"
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levis007:
Hey,

I cant login on snapchat using the latest stock Hydrogen OS Marshmallow..

I used opens gapps pico and when I try to login to snapchat, it gives an error that I cant login.

I gave the snapchat app all the permissions but still no success :(
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaffer94:
U should remove xposed. Login to snapchat and then install xposed again. Xposed is causing this bug
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levis007:
I am using stock H2OS Rom, I don't think xposed is installed.
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suraj.das:
Unroot your device. Log in. Root again
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levis007:
The device is completely is rooted. It's completely stock rom with no custom kernel installed

A stock rom with stock kernel and stock recovery.

I don't know why I get this error.

Anybody else experiencing this problem on HydrogenOS Marshmallow V2.0 ?
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suraj.das:
Thats weird. Are you sure its not rooted?

Because I have seen this only on rooted and xposed devices

Maybe try with a clean flash
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levis007:
Maybe I should try 1 more time and report back.

Does Hydrogen OS comes pre-rooted ?
[OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suraj.das:
No it does not
[Android Apps and Games] Gman8091:
Hello everyone!

I'm the director of Onaemo Studio, the team which consists of 5 college students really interested in creating a game.

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Download Link :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Onaemo.LollyLand

The main concept of <Lolly Land> is irony, and you might be little bit surprised when they face those ironic things in game,

"Small and cute voxel characters and map VS Lots of dies and threatens in the island"

"Easy and clear operations relying on screen touch VS Challenging goals to get high scores and great achievements"

I really wish you could enjoy this game and have a great time in Lolly Land.

Further explanation :

Lolly Land, beautiful but deserted island. No one knows why it’s empty, but some people now have come to this island. These immigrants just meet their spouse and settle in the town, to live their own cute and happy life. Unfortunately, there are terrible spirits lying under this beautiful island. Spirit of fire, setting fire on buildings. Spirit of water, luring people to a deep lake. Spirit of plague, spreading fatal disease over the town. Spirit of evil, inducing heart attacks. These awakened spirits cause so many deaths in a variety of ways.

Your job is simple. As the landlord of this island, harvest spirits before they harm live people. Just come up to spirits, and you can easily harvest them. But be careful. Larger the town becomes, More and more spirits would rise and threaten people. Without the careful support of yours, Lolly Land would become the deserted island, where no live one lives again.

Download Link :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Onaemo.LollyLand
[LeEco Le1 Pro Questions & Answers] konohakun:
Hello! I have a problem with my X800 (CN). I installed twrp recovery 3.0.2.0, wiped dalvik, cache, system and after this I installed ROM. I tried two ROMs. One from CUOCO and one official. Only 1 thing changed - bootloader. After bootloader pic always booting TWRP.
[LeEco Le1 Pro Questions & Answers] konohakun:
UPDATE: Fixed by installing Cuoco recovery
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martinjo24:
Hi, im new with huawei,

i try to unlock bootloader with my code, but every time i try into fastboot, doest work... and the reason is coldboot, aps coldboot...

Sometime when i restart 5-10 time i can obtain correct fasboot
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gm007:
What is aps coldboot?

To boot into fastboot ,turn ur phone off than press and hold volume down button and connect the usb.

Don't forget to enable oem unlock in developer settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
As the title says, my S7 has the Isocell module but i want to change it to the Sony module, has anyone done this before? I notice its not like on my s4 that i can easily change the module and continue on. Are there any steps i should follow? Is it even possible? Thank you all in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
Anyone??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] mehtamitul:
Watch Fixit video on youtube.

Sent from my SM-G930FD using Taptalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] MisterKanister:
Why? There's no advantage from changing to either Sony or Samsung sensor, same quality
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] peachpuff:
No way the s..... sensor is better than the s..... sensor, every one knows that!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] MisterKanister:
Aladeen!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
I compared shots with an SM-G930U(Sony) and my SM-G930F(Isocell) and the pics on the U is more vivid. I know the part in changing it but making the F recognize the Sony module is my problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Kico. St:
You can change to sony sensors by flashing a note 7 rom like i do with HydraRom 1.3.5 and selecting in aroma sony sensor, its kernel-related.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
No way to do without root?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
You can't change hardware by flashing ROMs...

The different sensors are camera hardware, not software
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
So no way to change the Module?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
You'd have to replace the actual camera module afaik

Don't know why you would want to, ISOCELL images are slightly better than Sony from most reviews, and from my own opinion of looking at sample images
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] aromerblz:
I checked the comparison from another s7 that i have with a sony module and it was much clearer and vivid than the Isocell on my sm-g930f. Changed the module and kept saying camera failed. Not sure how to make the f recognize it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Looking further....

So ive recently uptaken this journey...

Ive managed to find that my driver folder contains both drivers, the imx260 and the isocell drivers...

Now... just to find whats inside... and where the heck this driver gets defined...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
AIDA64 can tell you which sensor you have

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Were a little bit passed identifying the camera ;)

Were into modding the kernel, seeing as the drivers for both are already cooked into the system. (Which should mean a hal socket exists to serve both camera types)

All we need to do is find out "WHERE" in the kernel... does it decide which driver will be loaded.

Then , we can make the changes to point to our sony driver.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
Ah lol, I thought you meant you wanted to see what sensor was inside :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Definitions update.

Within the kernel,

Im getting closer.. i think im in the right spot... now i need to define the hardware as imx260 , (then i would assume the driver for the imx260 will auto load)

So, i need to double check the mountpoints for the camera again (file explorer work)

I will switch my camera after the reprogram, (as a reboot should render my camera useless) (camera failed message)

I will keep you updated.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] radkor:
Did you tried to flash camera firmware in this menu *#34971539# ?

Wysłane z mojego SM-G930F przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Unable to do that.

For whatever reason, my codes dont work.

Every code, including debug codes... returns me an invalid mmi code

Even with trying to force the command by adding the + and the , to prefix/ suffix.

Example: *#34971539#

Would be *#34971539#, Or *+#34971539#

This is supposed to force commands... even with errors. (From what i read)

Clear cache, davlik cache, hard reboot, yada yada.. no luck.

S7 edge G935F TEKHD Rom. (Still marshmallow based)

Ideas?

Also, when it comes to firmware flash, (being as my phone already has both camera firmware choices) im assuming the rom is made that way, (and programmed on first boot)

what should i be flashing ... and where :)

The imx260.bin file ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] radkor:
These codes works only on stock TouchWiz Roms.

You should see this menu (attached).

Module firmware flash optiin will be greyed out until you put firmware IMX260.bin in root folder.

Wysłane z mojego SM-G930F przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Edify script / flashable

After TONS of reading...

Managed to decipher all the camera jargain, the phone calls the camera value 0 in all references that i could find.

After looking at the other file on my phone... i could see the BIN. File of the sony is set to 1.

Still in testing ... but ...

I found this script (not my work)

Credits Here: to Clemalex? I do believe is his signature.

(done by edify) that gave me the ideas :) so NOW!

I HAVE ALTERED the files, to what i needed

(S7 edge BIN) pulled directly from my rom... so i know the firmware is based on my exact MM platform.

Image1 - edify script... for flashing the firmware from recovery. (Requires minor changes to the script (rename the file your working with to the one you need)

Image 2: contains the file where i FINALLY found the value of the damn camera...

Image 3: contains the camera strings showing the global camera Id .

<String> Preference global camera id key 0 (About 1/2 down)

Testing Failed. - adjusting updater script
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Julian85:
Any News? My Isocell Camera is broken and I (accidently) brought a Sony camera spare. Now i got the Camera Error.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Same boat

Im in the EXACT same boat as you... and believe me ... ive seen this on MANY forums.. which is why im not going to give up until i solve it... :')

Im caught in the middle of two things right now... switching roms, and doing backups... and programming my camera for the sony module :)

I have the file if you want to try flashing it ?

Im not ready until i have a backup...

(Use twrp to make a system.img backup first)

As the files being flashed are located inside of system/vendor/firmware ...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
Why not just return the Sony sensor and try getting an Isocell again?

I can understand the project, but I'd be wanting my camera working again ASAP first
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Why im persuing this, i happen to be running a custom rom that doesnt allow MSL code input.

Returns invalid MMI all day every day,

So this would be for those who like me,

1.cant enter msl/mmi codes,

2. have greyed out firmware flash menus in the camera firmware screen.

3. people whos cameras have stopped working after updates... they could simply flash the firmware no matter the rom...

And the answer to the isocell vs sony...

Sony is rated slightly better,

And people are having the issues reguardless of sensor type... and having to factory reset their roms... (time consuming) and often doesnt fix the issue :)

Also, ebay has 200+ sony cameras for sale... 25$ each...

Has 10 isocell (in canada) 60$ each...

Why pay more for a camera that isnt as good... or at worst... the same...

Also... my camera (isocell) still works... but there are lines that go horizonally through the bottom half of my pictures...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Tested file, files flash successfully, isocell is still functional,

Going to change the script to write values of 1 to the old isocell .bin files... repack and retry.

In theory... if file flash is truly successful... isocell should stop working.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] *Detection*:
Pricing is a valid reason, but as for quality, all reviews and photo samples I've seen of Sony vs Isocell, Isocell comes out top almost always, also Isocell uses less compression, the only time Sony came out top was noise under certain scenarios

---

http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s7-isocell-vs-sony-sensor-camera-680266/

The winner here is the Samsung’s ISOCELL sensor, as it got the upper hand in more sections. But remember that, ultimately, this is a very subjective matter. And Sony’s sensor is very close behind, so you’re not really losing with either variant.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/03/galaxy-s7-isocell-sony-imx260-cameras-compared.html

Nevertheless, a closer inspection reveals that Samsung’s ISOCELL unit is only marginally better in certain scenarios. Then again, the photos captured using the ISOCELL sensor are also less compressed, so it’s not actually clear if the slight difference in quality is determined by the sensors themselves, or by the software operating along with the cameras. On the other hand, the Sony IMX260 sensor appears to create images with slightly less noise in some cases.

--

And from looking at the sample images myself, I would say the Sony sensor seems to put a yellow tint over photos, particularly low light

--

Great project nevertheless, but for me it would be something I would be doing with a spare S7, not my main phone :)

Best of luck though, looks like you're getting close to solving it :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
PM
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] smsalom:
Newer S7 G930F Model From 06/17 uses a Sony IMX260 Camera, but front camera quality went way worse than older model
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Yamaha169:
Search continues.

For a better idea of what im looking for... since any hopes of just switching/renaming/hpdating firmware via mmi is gone...

This would be my alternative...

To switch the hotplug, (init.hardware) handler. To search for the sony imx260.bin...

So im looking into this instead. (After reading a bit more, i discover that the .bin files inside of those lacations are merely just image files. (Pulled to the kernel as called for by the firmware helper)

Current progress leaves me searching for the init.hardware helper.

See image for example of strings, (these are nfc firmware .bin locations)

Currntly looking for these for the camera :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] AZOV_BATALION:
Did you get it working, I need to go from imx to isocell. Got wrong camera from supplier.
[Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RgDiabl0:
Hi everyone !

I have a huge problem since I got my Honor 7, I don't get any notifications when I get a new message in my voicemail !

Is there someone who have or had the same problem ? How can I solve it ?

Thank you ! ;)
[Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zinko_pt:
That only has to do APN and mobile operator. Check your configuration.
[Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adriansticoid:
Might be a temporary problem with your carrier.
[Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zinko_pt:
I suggest you to try also with other mobile operators.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jhyrachy:
Title say it pretty much:

I'm on android beta 7.1.1, with modified boot unencrypted boot image, unlocked bootloader, twrp 3.0.2.2 and supersu v2.78 SR1

I flashed Suhide v 0.55 (from here: http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396 ) and now my phone is stuck at android boot animation

Any way to fix this without reflashing ALL the data?

Thanks
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wuzimu:
Don't you have backup in twrp? If not, you can use No. 11 in Heisenberg guide. http://xdaforums.com/nexus-5x/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206930
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rquinn19:
I tried every which way I could think of to get suhude working with 7.1.1 and coudn't. And for whatever reason I could never get my backup made before trying to restore system
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jhyrachy:
I ended flashing the uninstaller and reinstalling root and it worked again.

Now i have a nandroid backup in case anything go wrong next time
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baalki:
Could you please detail on where to get this uninstaller and the process you followed. Am stucking with the same issue. Please help.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SlimSnoopOS:
It's in the same post (linked above) where you get suhide.
[Samsung Gear S2] sciabolan:
hello guys I'm looking for the R730XXU2DPFB firmware gear s2, because after in dowgrade I can not update the gear manager.

thank you
[Samsung Gear S2] Hzand:
Same problem. Searched everywhere for firmware R730XXU2DPFB. Who can help us out? Thanks!
[Samsung Gear S2] ecdteck:
and me need update say gear has been modified software updates are not available