yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG G Flex 2] mateo1111:
Flex 2 is vulnerable to DirtyCow :good:

Here's some DirtyCow proof of concept:

https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195

We can now write to readable system files, but changes are not persistent - they last until reboot.

shell@z2:/ $ getprop ro.build.description
z2_global_com-user 6.0.1 MMB29M 1614217499e0b release-keys
shell@z2:/ $ cd /data/local/tmp
shell@z2:/data/local/tmp $ ./dirtyc0w /system/bin/run-as test
cowing. Start: 0, size: 5960
shell@z2:/data/local/tmp $ /system/bin/run-as
hello!
uid: 2000
new uid: 0
shell@z2:/data/local/tmp $

We're now limited by SELinux which doesn't allows us to do anything...

https://github.com/scumjr/dirtycow-vdso

Another PoC Flex 2 may be vulnerable to, because Flex has vDSO library:

shell@z2:/ $ cat /proc/self/maps | grep vdso
7f9b716000-7f9b718000 r-xp 00000000 00:00 0 [vdso]

But code of this vDSO PoC needs to be modified to work on arm64.
[LG G Flex 2] sensationvsgalaxy:
+1
[LG G Flex 2] kjub:
this feed is dead ?
[LG G Flex 2] le grande magnetto:
everything that has to do something with flex2 is basically dead.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ElAguila:
I am looking at replacing a problematic phone with the Axon 7. I am looking at the quartz gray one with a North American warranty. I was wondering is anybody knew what model it is. If is being sold on Newegg. The only laying they have Ida their part number. It is this phone:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16875705055
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Nik2424:
US version: ZTE A2017U
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Flogisto:
I am waiting for that one to arrive, same model on Newegg.ca .... as far as I know is the same model as the US U label but it changed because of the color.....hopefully nothing else has changed and we could one day, after they unlock the bootloader, install the same ROMS :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] kaotikb:
Yeah it ships from US even if you buy it from newegg.ca. Took 5 days to get to me in Calgary with puropost shipping
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] BableMan:
Jet,com has a 30 off deal, and it's secretly newegg so you get the same warranty.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Flogisto:
Ok I can confirm now that the phone received from Newegg.ca is the same US model ZTE A2017U_0636. Any further development will be ok for us to apply on this phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iluvgillgill:
when i turn on my phone it doesnt ask for my PIN so i have to turn phone off then on and go to phone setting then it ask me for PIN.anyone else have this problem.

And often freeze up as well.i try 4 different radio rom already but problem still exist!anyone else experience the same?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wacky.banana:
If I were you I would post your query within the thread. You stand a much better chance of getting it answeed there.

Re freezing problems, have you tried just running the rom on its own to see if you have compatibility issues with your device and/or running software that won't work properly in WM6?

You will need to give more info when you ask your questions in the Schaps thread.

WB
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iluvgillgill:
if i post in the schaps 4.20 thread it will just get lost somewhere when i cant find it.but now i have gone back to 3.60 much more stable and faster in every way.but of course it doesn't look as good as 4.20 lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] TheMaanda:
Can anyone please tell me how signature spoofing can be enabled without using xposed?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] SOGKush420:
Luckypatcher then patch to android
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] TheMaanda:
Thank you, i had already tried that, didn't work. But i have found a working solution for S7 Edge.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Ati75:
Sorry, that i have to chime in. But, you asked for a solution to a problem, got one (albeit it didn't work, but thats not the point), told us that you already have a solution and don't tell the community what that solution is? Seriously?

Now i don't need this feature, and honestly don't know why i should need it, but maybe there is someone out there, that would need the input you neglected to offer.

So please, enlighten this forum. Thanks and sorry again for the rant...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] TheMaanda:
I opened a thread here and this is why you might need it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Ati75:
Thanks! Didn't mean to sound so angry, but hopefuly you get my point. :good:
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Xsequence:
Hi; I'm going to buy a mi5; can you tell me which rom do I have to install on the device, able to get some monthly or weekly updates? Please suggest me which one would be better, if you. China stable or developer? Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] IMTLD:
The one it will come with will be stable and good for daily usage, it has weekly official updates, whether it is Chinese or Global rom
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Xsequence:
Thank you! I know that xiaomi servers are too slow and a weekly ota could be difficult, don't you think so? I'm interested in installing via updater, not by pc. Which is the difference between global developer and the stable rom? Weekly or monthly updates?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] IMTLD:
well, I didn't try to update through the app itself, you can just download it from the site and place it on your memory then choose the file in the updater app. I don't really know what's the difference but both get weekly updates
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Nikhil.koundal1:
If you choose global rom you get update once in a week whereas in developer rom every Friday there is new update
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Springf:
As the name suggests, stable means the ROM is stable for daily use. Developer is more for open beta testing, it will include more features as well as bugs.:p
[Android One (Second-Generation) General] gabrieladrian:
I was wondering if we have root for nougat? How do i root my device? Thanks!
[Android One (Second-Generation) General] WesTD:
http://forum.turkdevs.com/konu-general-mobile-4g-android-7-0-nougat-root-yapma.html check topic.
[Android One (Second-Generation) General] wingleaf:
the forum is in turkish, can you please share how in english here? Thanks
[Android One (Second-Generation) General] berda77:
To get root I flashed SuperSu which can be flashed via TWRP recovery only. There are 2 kinds of SuperSu: Systemless (installed as a normal apk in data folder) and System SuperSu (installed in system/app folder). Check this thread if you understan russian.

Otherwise just do the following steps:

1. Install ADB and Fastboot drivers

2. Enable "Android debugging" in developer options

download TWRP recovery

3. Open the commandpromt window and install TWRP using the following commands:

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot devices (just to check the phone status)

fastboot oem unlock-go (all you data will be gone, so make a backup in advance)

fastboot0 erase recovery

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (where recovery.img is TWRP file name)

4. Unplug the phone and remove battery. Place it back, press "Volume Up" и "Power" buttons.

5. Flash the desired SuperSu via TWRP.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamidrezatata:
hi all

my phone blocked by odin and frp code!!!

can any one please share links about them??thats emergency please hatyup
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
​

This is my new Explosion Kernel for the Galaxy Grand Prime (G530H). It's based off the ZIM55 kernel available on ZIM555 GitHub. Flash it using TWRP. Bug reports and contributions are welcome.

#include
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/

​

WORKING ON CM/AOSP/STOCK (lollipop, marshmallow, nougat).

GOVERNORS

Interactive Pro

Intelliactive

Bluactive

Zzmoove

Smartmax

Lionfish

Interactive

Conservative

Ondeman

Userspace

Powersave

Bioshock

Performance

GPU

msm-adreno-tz

userspace

powersave

performance

simple ondemand

cpufreq

I/O schedulers

noop

deadline

row

cfq

sio

zen

More Feactures

Powered by Ubuntu 16.04 x86_64

USB Fastchanger

Moderately undervolted

Updated to Linux 3.10.104

Synced with latest CodeAurora changes

Improved memory caching backported from Linux 3.15

Improved storage performance

Optimized ARM crypto routines

Updated f2fs and WiFi drivers

KCAL MDP5 colour control (by savoca)

Improved zRAM backported from Linux 4.1

Compiled with Linaro GCC 4.8 and optimized for Cortex A53

Stripped down and optimized configuration

Network speedup tweak

Reduce swappiness to 30

Optimized SLUB

Asynchronous I/O latency to a solid-state disk greatly increased

Disabled MMC CRC check

Compatible with Kernel Adiutor, Universal Kernel Manage and others

And More

​

--Mod edit-- link removed

Installation Instructions​

My suggested install procedure:

Boot into TWRP (make sure you have a suitable ROM installed)

Flash my kernel zip.

Reboot into Android.

@Christopher83 [MENTION=5068839]zim555[/MENTION]

and more people :D

Screenshots​

XDA:DevDB Information

Explosion Kernel, Kernel for the Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime

Contributors

Carlos Arriaga

Source Code: https://github.com/ExplosionKernel/android_kernel_samsung_fortunaxx3g

Kernel Special Features:

Version Information

Status: Stable

Created 2016-10-28

Last Updated 2016-12-04
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
CHANGELOG

More features will be added in future. Don't hesitate to make a feature request. Thanks!

Modded kernel adiutor apk: https://basketbuild.com/filedl/devs?...nelAdiutor.apk

Thanks to [MENTION=4139665]martinusbe[/MENTION] and GZR team for allowing me to use and distribute this apk

CHANGELOG KERNEL: https://github.com/CarlosArriagaCM/android_kernel_samsung_fortunaxx3g/commits/Explosion-MM
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] husein98:
what advantages ?

and bug?

sorry bad english
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] kn06497:
:v
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
It is the first version men, no bugs in roms cm/aosp in stock you used versión lp.

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[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] husein98:
oh ok

Thanks sir for your reply
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
NEW VERSION

added governors, I/O SIO/ZEN and more... check in the second post (changelog)

DOWNLOAD IN THE OP
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] tutibreaker:
For more info about CPU governors, I/O schedulers check this amazing post of [MENTION=5811506]Saber[/MENTION] [REF][GUIDE]Most up to date guide on CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more! Can find valuable info to make the best configuration than siut your expects !!
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] jaydsosa13:
Can I flash this on stock lollipop rom 5.0.2 xxu? If yes.. Wat version should I flash?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
cm-12.1 version

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[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] gianekap:
how to download it? i want to use it in stock
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
Download CM12.1 version and flash it:cool:
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] ibrahim7:
GOOD JOP .. [MENTION=6331811]Carlos Arriaga[/MENTION]

Really great, but is there any possible way to increase battery back up in the next version?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] tutibreaker:
The versión R02 have SOD (deadlock) tested in prime 530M with IACP MM-

Edit: still deadlock
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Papeekruts:
I didn't experienced deadlock running sm-G30H xcu. using aicp rom

---------- Post added at 10:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 AM ----------

btw thanks for bringing this kernel. my phone so fast now :)
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Papeekruts:
Update : deadlock is back. i repeat deadlock is back!
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Chempos:
XCU MM PAC-ROM, work
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
for me , deadlock's back when i change cpu governors:(
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] killerhaha100:
Please add cpu hotplug like Intelli-plug,MP-decision

great job for this kernel keep it up ??✌
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] HussainMerchant:
Does this Supports OTG suppprt?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Soon???

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[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Yes OTG support

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[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] jaydsosa13:
Hey nice work with the pac rom man.. I think this is the best rom for grand prime right now..

Btw when I flashed the kernel in stock rom 5.0.2 xxu the smart manager app keeps detecting threat found.. ita kind of annoying.. Any fix for that? Thanks
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] HussainMerchant:
So Is the battery backup good of this kernel?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
just ignore that, because it detects any non-stock things as threat
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] HussainMerchant:
Does it provides amuch more good battery backup in resurrection remix 6.0.1?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
don't know, just try it and decide it yourself :cool:
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] HussainMerchant:
okbro :)
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Papeekruts:
i used intelliactive and zzmove so far i dont have deadlock on this governor. ill test the other. i forgot what governor i was when i experienced deadlock.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Ni10God:
It's Very Awesome :D tnx
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] killerhaha100:
Im on stock i tested the OTG its not working
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
yay! OTG working on my XCU. using ExplosionMM (CM13)
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] killerhaha100:
Im confuse is the USB fast charging when connected to a pc or laptop?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Does the OTG support only for CMs? like CM13 and 14?

DOes it work on stock LP of G530h?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
Explosion Kernel is based on Zim's kernel and created with Any2kernel by osm0sis, so maybe yes/no, but this kernel works on stock, just use the cm12.1 one
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Srock ? or CM?

---------- Post added at 04:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:00 PM ----------

Ah ok, But i'm using CM13 right now , I don't know if this is true that is supports fast charging , since [MENTION=5068839]zim555[/MENTION] said that we don't have a fast charging support
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
Maybe fast charging support is able to be added by custom kernel, and to test it you need to enable fast charging in any kernel manager app and charge the phone with fast charge supported charger
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
kernel managing app ? so by default it is turned off even if it says that it support fast charging, you need to turn it on ? in this kernel
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
Custom features that isn't prebuilded usually disabled in any rom, so yes
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
How to turn it on in this kernel ?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
Use any kernel manager app, find usb fast charge (usually at misc options), enable it and enable apply on boot
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] syverman:
Use kernel Adiutor

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[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Have you tried it on CM13?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
I don't have fast charge supported charger and i'm on PAC-ROM now, so try that yourself
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Last one thing brotha, how to backup my current kernel :D
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Dante Enoshima:
I don't think you can backup kernel, so the only way is probably dirty flash your rom
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Oooppsss, I remembered something hahaha. I can backup my kernel through flashify :D
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Has.007:
Go to Twrp, Go to backup nd untick everything except boot. Boot is the kernel partition.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
Hello everyone i am on stock 5.0.2 xcu

And i am noobie

so i didnt understand a word ??

I want otg on my stock what positives and negatives plz reply my stupid question
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] israfilkhan:
My FM radio not work When I use this kernel.Please solve this problem.

I test it stock ROM,Cm 13 and resurrection remix.I found same problem.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
Never mind

i flash it

otg not working

didnt notice diffrence perfromance and battery

plz bro make otg for stock plz plz plz
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
Otg works bro.try flahing explosion MM kernel.but stickmount or usb otg helper is reqd. See ss
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] hrswhdn:
How to unactive kernel?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] L4zyD0g:
Someone says radio didn't working when using this kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69428059&postcount=51
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] tah3:
Can anyone tell me that what is the best configuration for this kernel in resurrection remix

Fir bettery life(best performance is also preferable)...
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] akshay8612:
not working kcal color control ....
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] r10fc:
Working in G530BT 5.0.2? I liked of flash kernel with function OTG. Me indicate the better kernel with that function, please, i thx.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
I just noticed, im getting a bit lag and overheating. But still good!
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] kimpot04:
which file should i download.. im currently using resurrection remix rom lollipop 5.1

Explosion For CM-12.1/STOCK LP

Explosion For CM-13.0/STOCK LP

Explosion For CM-14.0

the Explosion For CM-13.0 worked for me..thanks alot :D
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] leonardonovaes17:
I am a layman, governor qua use to save battery? recommended me a configuration al.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] kksanto:
it support on xxu?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Hey guys NEW BUILD IS UP!

Explosion Kernel R03 IS UP for MM/N

downloas in the OP
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] netss:
omg amazing!!! thnx a lot
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] syverman:
What's new?

Thanks.

Enviado desde mi SM-G530H mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Added hotplugs and more... See second post[emoji14]for more changes.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
I flashed the cm 13 version in stock 5.0.2 . but it directly not detect otg as in cm 13. We have to use stickmount or usb otg helper. Another thing sometimes after removing the usb otg drive,it still shows in explorer. Plz make it plug and play as in cm 13
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] leonardonovaes17:
What Is a HotPlug function that appears in the manager?

I would like to add double tap to turn on the screen?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
You should try IntelliPlug[emoji14]

DT2W... Ummm maybe in the future
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Wait for lollipop update
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] killerhaha100:
Overclock? I would love this to be added in future updates ?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] redfeast:
Add 'tap to wake' feature if possible
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Papeekruts:
is the deadlock issues. are fix on the latest update? btw thanks for you hard work.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
Lollipop update !!!! I didn't understand
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] simbamalaka:
Hay [MENTION=6331811]Carlos Arriaga[/MENTION] , thanks to your hard work. Can I request a feature

tap2wake

---------- Post added at 09:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 PM ----------

Deadlock issue on stock lollipop
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] faizal19990808:
Why when I changed kernel adiutor setting, my android have automally reboot? :confused: :crying:
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] snthe:
Anyone know which governor cause deadlock?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] dbandeir:
Interactive_Pro gave me deadlock. I'm using Conservative now and it looks good.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] snthe:
Are u on stock or not?

And how about battery on that governor?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] dbandeir:
No, I'm on AOSP by Carlos. I didn't have the chance to measure the battery as when I was turned off the screen and a few minutes later I tried to turned it on, it didn't work, so I had to remove the battery. After a couple of times of this happening, I changed to Conservative.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Allentot:
Hi Carlos. i did flash the ExplosionMM Ro3 . Stock rom.. 5.0.2 now OTG works.. but lag a bit.. thanks btw
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] snthe:
Otg worked on aicp 11.0

Btw, must i instal something like kernel auditor to change governor on this kernel?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] arinsms:
Having sod/deadlock will try conservative gov a test
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] manotroll:
530BT suport ?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Explosion Kernel R03 is up for lollipop!!!

test plz OTG :p, download in the OP
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] arinsms:
Tq..hope SOD fixed in this version..random reboot and freezed is killing me
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] arinsms:
I see new hotplug features..which one is recommended to be enable
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
Bro plz fix deadlock in MM

And plz add double tap to turn on
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] snthe:
Try change your governor
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
How and what will happen
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] dithxiemay:
Hi sir. sorry for stupid question. Is this version (Explosion Kernel R03 for MM/N) for XXU 5.0.2 Stock Rom?

or should i use the Explosion Kernel for LP version?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] nimchinskiy:
how to install that kernel on xcu? because it seems thats it only for xxu? or i'm wrong?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] nimchinskiy:
is this kernel can be used with AOSP MM?
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] omarhawary:
is it working on CM 14.1 ??
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Yes
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Yes bro
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
Kernel works in xxu and xcu[emoji14]
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
Guys how to fix deadlock on MM??
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] Carlos Arriaga:
EXPLOSION R04 IS UP!

CHANGELOG:

*KCAL SUPPORT

*FAUX SOUND CONTROL

DOWNLOAD IN THE OP
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] abooooood:
Thanks a lot for update sir

Please can u add in future

Double tab to wake
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] dithxiemay:
after your screenshot, where can i find my OTG Flash drive files? cant seem to find 'em.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] DoctorStrange96:
I suppose this kernel doesn't work with the BT variant (the one sold in Brazil, has dual-SIM plus a DTV tuner). Bummer.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] :
Use es file explorer and see
[Galaxy Grand Prime Android Development] rraph:
Already tested the Solid Explorer?