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[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bucatino:
I write to the Zte Italy facebook page, they write to me this

"Hello Andrea, upgrade to Nougat is not expected in the immediate but ZTE is working on it to check the possibility that it can be implemented. Follow us for more updates."
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
I posted this on the french ZTE FB:

Basically I'm asking ZTE about B05, Nougat, and the battery issue. Asking them last "Have we bought a sinking flagship killer from ZTE?"

Not sure they'll reply...
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lupedro:
you got the point!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
I'm going to ask something to the German ZTE on fb too tonight. I'm from the Netherlands, but we don't have our own fb page.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cesaragus:
Have yu guys tried to install the US B29 version with A2017G modem? I think it is possible and it could work perfectly. Maybe we can make ZTE launch the same version but with the correct modem, I think OnePlus does this exact thing. We could use that to expand the US community to a worlwide community maybe.

I really really want to buy this phone, but ZTE is making me hate it so much.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
In theory it's possible indeed. But we need an unlocked bootloader for this as the update.zip is different and will not work on the global model.

---------- Post added at 01:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

For all the people From Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxembourg. We have an benelux page instead:

https://www.facebook.com/ZTEbenelux/
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
I hope they will start the European/German Community soon because the gap between USA and Europe is already huge and with every day it will get bigger :/
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mygoldkenn:
average audio quality (like midrange phone)

low volume with dolby on

mute call sometimes

self-reboot sometimes

they just need to fix what's broken in global version..

it's such a waste of owning hi-end hardware with buggy software..
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Do you guys have any issues with the proximity sensor during calls ? My screen turns on during a call randomly and i think it's happening because of the sensor placement (right side) and while holding the phone at my right ear the sensor would be oriented behind my ear/head.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kodrnusa:
It happens to me a lot. Sometimes I don't know it and I press airplane mode with my ear. It's frustrating...
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Yes, I go through menus, settings and enable all kind of options without knowing.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] iNaruX:
I had a little chat with the ZTE Mobile Germany team.

Remember to always stay friendly and they will be friendly aswell!

Don't want to censor my name so I will not share screenshots directly, you can ask me via PM if you want a proof.

100% translation:

Me:

How is it looking right now with softwareupdates? Currently we are lagging behind the american model(17U). Our softwarestatus is B05 and theirs is B26. Are there any plans to catch up? For example with the security patch level?

Second, will there be a possibility for us users to communicate in a kind of "forum"? That would be very helpful. Would you mind telling me if you have a time for when you plan to launch something like a community?

Thank you very much in advance

ZTE Mobile Deutschland:

Please consider that the A2017U (US) and the A2017G (EU) are, in principle, 2 different models that differ in hardware. That is why we cannot offer identical firmware-versions, because they are programmed by separate developers.

A [german] community is being planned as far as we can see, but we cannot tell you a date at this moment unfortunately.

ZTE Mobile Deutschland:

We are currently working on an update with a newer security patch level and it has been tested internally successfully.

Hope that was detailed enough :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Bruh why dont you produce 1 Product with all modems etc that can be used everywhere and have a big developer team :D Some Marketing strategies are very annoying
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
Not possible. But good news they're working on a new update with updated security patches.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeJe63:
The big question: Do we (they) talk about days, weeks or month for this update to appear OTA? ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
Probably weeks. If they tested it internally. They need to send it for Google certification and then it will be released. Google certification takes two/three weeks.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
I believe it's the EU regulations that are a major factor for differentiation of models and firmware. I'm pretty certain the hardware is all the same apart from the antennas. But yeah even leaving all that aside, there is no reason whatsoever for ZTE to say that these are two different models and that's why one development cycle is slower than the other.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
How fast is ZTE Mobile Deutschland responding? I asked a question on 8:47, they've read it at 9:58, and still no response.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vizzze:
so it seems that EU software development is made by the German ZTE? i wrote to UK ZTE and got no answer.

i hope that the forthcoming community will be english speaking :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
They will sure answer soon.. responding so many massages is definitely hard for the man behind the Keyboard :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
I also sent a message to ZTE Benelux yesterday. The've read it yesterday's morning, but haven't replied either.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Repeat your Question frequently till you get an answer or block from ZTE page :fingers-crossed:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
What do you mean with 'or block from ZTE page'?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shipmate:
I've sent several emails to ZTE UK over the last 3 months and still never had any responses. The Last message i sent was 20th October. UK support seems non existent. I had to get my ZTE A2017G from Amazon Germany. I originally bought an A2017G from EKEYUK in August but it was faulty and had to return for a refund because no replacements were available. Still non officially on sale in UK since August.

I hope the UK gets included in the ZTE EU support forum. I feel totally neglected by ZTE.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
That was a joke with the block :D they will answer at least de German ZTE page the Benelux one maybe Idk :D:angel:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
Just sent a new message to Benelux, they've read it again, but no answer.. lol.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Did you already try it on their Official Facebook page? maybe they can help you with your problem.. Try several pages ZTE have a lot :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
lol.. :Dmaybe they are already annoyed from us xD :rolleyes:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
ZTE Device isn't responding. I guess that's the main site for EU news.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
I got this response
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Glad to hear that they work on it :D but I find something strange he says that their developers will decide what is in the update.. bruh.. you dont need to decide just look at this Forum and solve the problem..
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Frank Bearson:
Today I got the message von ZTE that Nougat will come this year for the A2017G.. But an official bootloader unlock will never come for Europe its only for the US.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lupedro:
Why? that doesn't make any sense!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
What the hell? Why do they such stupid things.. they compare whole Europe with US is the first thing second one is the Support there is better then here and now third one our bootloader will keep unlocked.. this is **** man wth
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
I don't think it has to do with EU regulations rules at all.

Probably ZTE has no knowledge and don't understand how EU rules works.

How any other companies support all regions device and not ZTE.

ZTE has no excuse.

Since release European version they must support it just like any other company do.

Good to hear about Android N but except security patches ZTE must provide optimization/polish on software side.

Not only the bell being optional but also give us dynamic lock screen as US version,camera improvements especially low light and video recording that sucks,improvements on double tap to wake(response and accuracy) change the stupid limitations on loudspeaker and of course further battery life optimization.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
The things you mention are 'general' fixes and will ofcourse be done. In my opinion the MiFavor 4 is stable and good to work with. The camera won't improve that much and I don't care about dynamic lockscreen.

Hopefully Google is fast with certification so we have the update before the end of this month.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] hunhool:
Proper development is almost impossible with locked bootloader. ZTE must change their attitude or the device will be forgotten very soon.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Diplodocus123:
I can't believe it. They can't be THAT stupid....
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Antistar:
So im going to return this phone to amazon.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Frank Bearson:
I will hold the Phone till next year and then the living with ZTE will be over for ever. That's so dissapointed what they do.. I will switch to Oneplus
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
I don't understand why. It's not like this phone was useless? We're going to get Nougat. We might get the booloader, nobody knows for sure.

Till then, is it a bad phone? Not at all, IMOO
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Antistar:
Because despite the brilliant hardaware unfortunately the phone software is fatal. This model has no support from the developers-there is no alternative roms. No unlocked bootloader. I do not want to stay with a phone who has little development :(:(:( . Let's look at other brands and their support developement ... Of course a big thanks to all who helped with phone root .Im afraid to stay with the phone outdated.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
The only reason I chose the Axon 7 over the OnePlus 3 is the superior audio. If the OP3 had the same audio hardware as the Axon 7 I would have bought an OP3 for sure.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
better audio and better display, let's not forget that. Also, eventhough the battery is less than what was advertised, it still lasts longer than the other flagships.

I understand why people might be disapointed not having an open bootloader, but that doesn't mean this phone is crap. I personaly like the software, and I really really enjoy using it. As days go by, I love this phone more and more :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Antistar:
I dont think its crap , its well made great hardware model but software is far from perfect. also as mentioned lack of development.Its very important for me.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nsane:
1) EU law does not prevent companies from allowing bootloader unlock. Plenty of other phone manufacturers allow for bootloader unlock in the EU. Whether it voids or does not void warranty is a decision for the manufacturer.

2) There is an unofficial bootloader unlock for the European Axon 7. I have an A2017G. I unlocked my bootloader in 10 minutes.

3) The real problem is that there is no ROM development for this device. There are no developers working on stock Roms to clean them up and make them better (this was great on HTC devices and Sense Roms). Moreover, there is no CM and great difficulties are being encountered to bring it to this device. Despite all the public statements from ZTE.

4) I regret not buying an OPO3, but the Axon 7 has better hardware for my needs: screen, audio DAC, front speakers.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Antistar:
"... The real problem is that there is no ROM development for this device. There are no developers working on stock Roms to clean them up and make them better (this was great on HTC devices and Sense Roms). Moreover, there is no CM and great difficulties are being encountered to bring it to this device. Despite all the public statements from ZTE..."

exactly the point !!!!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nsane:
Honestly, if I had more time, I would start tinkering with stock Roms. Removing some of the idiotic system apps that I have had to force disable. Adding in Native Google apps instead.

Second priority would be kernel optimisation.

I was too optimistic when I purchased this device, thinking that a development community would spring around it in the same way as it did for the OPO.

I have not lost all hope. But it's fading quickly.

Such a shame.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jpde:
Lately I've been getting an average SOT of 3-4 hours which is definitely not above average. That's with dual sim in a major European city where signal quality is usually pretty good. The phone's software is terrible at the very least in two regards: the notification bell and memory management. Today I was using google maps to navigate (haven't been living here for a long time yet :P), opened chrome to search for something, went back go google maps for a while and without using any other apps, the next time I opened chrome it had to reload the tab.

I loved the phone for the first couple of weeks, but if the next update does not bring significant improvements, I'll try to return it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] donpeppinoo:
Let's just continue to apply pressure to ZTE (I assume the German Facebook Page: ZTE Mobile Deutschland is the most active and they speak English) and ask them about the bootloader unlock (preferably without voiding the warranty). I have the feeling that there is movement in the European Dev division of ZTE but for some reasons its relatively slow.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lupedro:
i agree, we have to keep pressure over the german page! At least the phone works great for me!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
I really like this phone too. I'm not complaining, but I miss the 'open' feeling I had with ALL my previous Android phones
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
Am I the only one liking the notification bell? I like the fact that people can look over and not see what I'm receiving... And it's really not a big deal to click on he bell, so...

But I'm still with you all for the updates and all :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thefiqs:
Just to let you know after installed TWRP and unlocked BL I successfully installed B29 ROM for the US version and running fine so far.

I have finally proper 4G signal using 3UK plus

BT, Wi-Fi, Calls, Messaging, Playstore, Gmail, Double Tap to Wake, New Lockscreen, Facebook, FB Messenger working so far.

Edit: 4k Video capture, camera, fingerprint reader working fine.

Only thing force closing is the DualSIM settings but no problem for me cuz in the first slot I have my main SIM for both calls and messages.

If you have any specific question, just ask

Sent by my Axon 7 2017G running 2017U B29
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Sure maybe you can do such things because you have expierince ect. but people that hasnt any knowledge in this area are lost. if you produce such a product without any support and optimized software and expect that we customers accept this then its your[zte] fault when we stand up against you and dissapointed turn away from your company.. thats my opinion
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thefiqs:
I have experience that's why I'm sharing with you. I had a chance to send it back to Amazon before even touch anything. But I'm taking the risk to modify and get experience and make YOUR life easier. It is ZTEs fault BTW but still want to share my two cents.

Sent by my Axon 7 2017G running 2017U B29
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] donpeppinoo:
Thanks for your pioneering work! Maybe you can start a new topic where you share details (How-To)? I haven't the phone yet, but I soon will. Then I'll give it a try.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
i didnt say anything that I oppose your work.. do not misunderstand me i am or we are grateful for this my anger goes on zte thats the point, sry if i formulated my massage incorrectly :) I am happy that People like you share your experience with us but why we must overcome such hurdles to have a phone that work correctly? thats what i mean dont feel you attacked that was not my intention :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
People can't wait for development side witch is not exciting at all (and will never happened at Axon 7 to be honest) to optimize the user experience using the device.

This is something that ZTE must involve and improve.

Me too I'm going to wait until earlier 2017 and Android N and if nothing happens game over for ZTE once and for good.

Personal I don't mind(care) for bootloader unlocked(never did with all my smartphone until now) but most bothered me is the discrimination from ZTE to European version and that US has superior software support.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
Yeah this is what the main issue is. If the updates weren't coming for any of the models at all, I guess we'd hear lesser complaints, whine a bit for a while, forget the device ever existed and move on. But The development is there, the updates are there and it's all happening for a particular market that ZTE want to please. And it's completely blatant. That's inexcusable. ZTE isn't realizing the damage this can do in the long run if they continue to be biased. Bad news always spreads fast. Axon 7 and ZTE wasn't known before this device so buyers took a chance. The next device they try to sell will have a massive number of the same people not wanting to buy and spreading the bad news to others to follow suit.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Guido83:
I am running the B29 on ma 2017G as well without any issues so far :)

I think I will stick on it as long as the reception is not getting worse
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
When you think that I'm still waiting for B05 on my A7, running B03 :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Znuf:
You update like an official rom or you fash only the system?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thefiqs:
Nope. You need to have TWRP installed and Bootloader unlocked.

I'm going to summarize the steps when I arrive home.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ourplaceinthestars:
We would greatly appreciate if you could make something like a step by step tutorial for non-techy folks.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
People which have not written a mail to zte yet, please do that, because together we are strong. ZTE has to see that we are serious and do not let us under. Thank you all :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
I think we should still consider creating this thread on a place they will actually see it i.e. the US forum
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Thats a nice idea if the people here would also comment there. Should I do one and post the link here? or can somebody do one with better english skills xD

It would be great if we get a lot of feedback on the US forum
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
https://community.zteusa.com/message/66526

I have also createt an Thread there I would be very happy if you also clarify your opinion here that we put also some pressure from there):)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
Link doesn't work.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Ah sry the zte mod must approve the thread that we you can see it heres a Screenshot
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] LeKeiser:
When I try to access your thread I get an error "Unauthorized "
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Please try it again now it must work.. the zte mod approved it and now everyone can see it sry i didnt know this :) now you can anwer me there and represent your toughts :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
Thank you for taking the initiative of creating the US forum thread, I was planning to anyway. Lets, all take our discussion to the US forum thread and hopefully keep it afloat so we can be seen.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
No problem, if we get there many views and comments like in this thread I think we can effect something
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
We need more folks to reply to the thread. It needs to be a collective effort! Thanks to those who have already replied.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
only 8 coments now we must get as many as here in this thread that we can start with something
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
I have also created a Group in Facebook if you want you can search ZTE Axon 7 Nutzergruppe surely everybody is welcome to help, talk and discuss about this phone :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Googhga:
Just added my two cents in the ZTE forum aswell. Make yourselves heard guys!

Gesendet von meinem ZTE A2017G mit Tapatalk
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Thank you!!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kodrnusa:
I also made long comment. Hope it helps :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Sure it will hopefully help :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sk0o:
I also post a comment. It would be nice if our comments will trigger the start of faster and more EU software development.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
We have so many comment on the ZTE US page but it never appears on the first page, really strange
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sk0o:
It's not on the Axon part of the forum. But on the 'main' page
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
Ou work slowly pays out guys!! A new update is incoming and the forum what we want is online soon. 4 days ago they said that they havent a date yet but now he says very soon.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gregou:
Can you translate in English what they say exactly ? ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tron1:
They say an update is planned 'till the end of this month. Further informations on facebook in a short time.

An german forum is planned and will be online soon. They can't say if the bootloader will be unlocked 'cause they have no information according this.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuridurdu27:
You have forgot Good morning Nuri xD
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vizzze:
Answers from ZTE germany on facebook regarding bootlader are weird, they told me specifically that bootloader won't come for A2017G users, to others they said it's possible or that they have no idea....
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] keessonnema:
Indeed. They have to leave it, or give an exact answer..
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonk3rzzz:
Yeah it's strange that the post doesn't stay up on the US forum. But I guess the post being on the main forum makes more sense cause our demand is ZTE to have a forum irrespective of the device for the EU. Well the responses are really encouraging... Let's keep it up.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Hope besides security patches ZTE bring some features that's already from the beginning to US version like dynamic lock screen and with the B29 update notification bell being optional.

Also give us the volume level on audio through 3.5 port and stereo speakers.