yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] hackthis02:
All the builds are the same other then the radios. A PS version with a Verizon sim will get a Verizon build on the next OS update.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Bytetheft:
So if I unlock my bootloader and don't have a verizon sim does that mean I'll get the google builds?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] hackthis02:
They're all Google builds, just different radios. If you're on Verizon, flashing an unlocked build would more then likely just have higher probability of connect issue.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Bytetheft:
Thank you for your speedy replies! One last question, flashing a new build on my phone will still allow me to get OTAs, yes? Assuming I am not on the Verizon network and on another network (tmobile)

To be clear I am currently on the Verizon build and plan on flashing the 7.1.1 (NMF26O, Dec 2016) build after unlocking my bootloader.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] hackthis02:
They've made changes with 7.1 so I'm not 100% up on it. But I believe as long as you don't modify the system partition you can still get OTA updates. Having a T-Mobile SIM should mean you'll get the unlocked build next OTA.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Please let us know if you can bypass wifi or data in order to get to the device and enable developer options. There are conflicting reports and it would be nice to hear it once and for all. I wouldn't swear to it but I believe that it would not let me get past either the data sim or wifi screen. I had to connect to wifi since I didn't have a data sim in. Then before I could do anything it installed the X update I think.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] social-design-concepts:
Everytime I tried I couldn't make it past the WiFi setup screen, but I might have a workaround the initial setup screen gotta test it tonight on the latest build.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] fix-this!:
thankfully my replacement pixel today didnt have the new ota. unlocked, ran the full new factory img and rooted fine. twrp is still pretty buggy though.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Great. So you were able to login and refuse the ota?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroiderM:
Not sure if this has been answered yet, just got my pixel today from Verizon it has the November security patch update that installed in the store build NDE63X. Can I still unlock my bootloader on this build? I know once 7.1.1 is pushed I will not be able to use dpixel. Also if I unlock bootloader but chose to leave stock for now no root or custom recovery will the next OTA relock the bootloader or will I still be able to root and use TWRP in the future?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] gillim74:
Yes you can still unlock.no it shouldnt relock the bootloader
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Wondering if you could tell me how you bypassed the update during setup. I'm going crazy debatinfnid I should try and get a replacement. If my local best buy has them in stock tomorrow I know it won't have the update yet.. but from what I remember during setting up the pixel there was no way to stop it. After the activation screen it went right to the software update screen?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Nateg900t:
I picked up mine tonight. I took out the Verizon sim before booting the phone and then "skipped" all the setup steps including connecting to Wifi. This allowed me to depixel8!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] fix-this!:
not sure what you mean by login? its a verizon pixel but i use it on at&t go. when i unboxed my replacement it wasnt on the new ota, so i hurried and unlocked my bootloader then ran the new 7.1.1 build via sideload. since i dont have my verizon sim in it it wont install ota's.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I meant that some people couldn't get past the screen

. Connect to wifi.. since there is no sim in. They had to connect to something to continue setup. But you bypassed that which is good.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroiderM:
Figured it out.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] brainymd:
If you cannot skip wifi the first time, just reboot the phone without the sim. Worked for me.

My question, and I am only asking because of conflicting answers in the thread. Would I he able to allow OTA after unlocking the bootloader without losing the unlock?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Yes absolutely. The only way it will get lo locked now is if you lock it again with fastboot. I'm on my second pixel now not we're unlocked then took the OTA just fine. Also I confirmed you can skip the setup. Take the SIM out and power it on and don't sign into wifi it lets you skip it. Then you can unlock before it automatically checks for updates. Wouldn't be a bad idea to go into dev options right away and turn off automatic updates just in case you are online before you get the bootloader unlocked
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aerosmith:
can we please add this message to the first post so that people are aware? Learnt it the hardway.

- Unlocking or re-locking the bootloader will reset the phone to factory defaults (including internal storage and pictures)

- Unlocking the bootloader will make android pay not work (banks regulation and not google's)

- For android pay to work the bootloader needs to be locked.

Thanks
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Everyone in the world knows point one. Point 2 is incorrect, as is point 3. So no, it should not be added to anything.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aerosmith:
yes, everybody in the world except the dumb guy like me did not know it. Can you tell me how to get android pay to work with unlocked boot loader? I could not find any links pertaining to this. Thanks.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Sorry.. almost everyone. Now it's everyone! Seriously, did it not warn you? Even where you are told the unlock command it usually says this will wipe your device.

As for AP, you need a custom kernel such as elemental x. Then it will work with bl unlocked. Do a quick search for that and it you can't find it I'll get you the link a little later.

edit: Ok, here's a stock kernel with AP working with bl unlocked.

http://xdaforums.com/pixel/development/kernel-stock-kernel-safetynet-patch-t3515692

And for your reading pleasure..

http://xdaforums.com/pixel/development/kernel-elementalx-p-0-04-t3490086/page6
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] FernBch:
I skipped everything, enabled dev options, turned on debugging and turned off automatic updates, and continued on. Unlock was done in minutes. Since it wipes everything there is no reason to setup. On first boot after unlock I then setup the device.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quangtran1:
You just need to flash a kernel that removes the support for SafetyNet verified boot flag. In the XDA Pixel kernel forum, there are at least 3 such kernels.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] KL4V1CL3:
Hi everybody, I've read through the thread but I'm still unsure.

If I unlock and then upgrade to 7.1.1 or future OTAs, will I always be able to downgrade back to 7.1 stock and then relock in case I need to get support or something? Also, I recognize that patched kernels will allow android pay, but will an unlocked bootloader affect Airwatch - needed for work?

Thanks in advance!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] fink.nottle:
Yes, I was able to do it too, but it didn't let me past the wifi screen. You need to sign in to a wifi network. Having a dummy wifi without internet didn't work either. This is pretty terrible design. I don't know if this is verizon specific, or if it's there on the google version too. Luckily, it didn't auto-update, and I was able to unlock it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] farfromovin:
If this has been covered, I missed it. If we're on stock 7.1.1 with a VZW device on VZW can we flash 7.1 to run depixel8 and unlock the BL and root, then flash 7.1.1 again?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Yes you are correct. It's been covered.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] mackentosh:
Its been covered but ill tell you anyways, I have a Verizon pixel I am currently sad because I upgraded to 7.1.1 and I locked my bootloader back because that was the only way I could get android pay to work now I can't unlock it and I can't downgrade now either so I guess we have to wait for the next exploit
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] cbusm30:
I just ordered on from Verizon. This whole situation is making me very uncomfortable.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] RLShiftyDoggit:
Hey guys I have the insurance on my pixel and I'd like to know if I unlock my bootloader will it void my insurance with

Asurion Wireless Phone Protection

I pay the extra 11$ a Mon on my VZW bill
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] jmartin72:
Do we know if anyone is working on trying to unlock the 7.1.1 BL?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Not likely. I don't think this device is ever going to have a big dev community.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] jmartin72:
What makes you say that? I feel like it will be huge.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] techhexium:
Hey everyone, I made the jump to the Pixel today and I encourage everyone who wants to unlock their phone to buy it ASAP! I went to my local store and I was told if I can get another color but was told the one he had was the last one and the store won't have them in stock for another 5 weeks. So I figured that the phone probably doesn't have the latest version. I just checked and it has Android 7.1, so I can go ahead and use dePixel8!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] FernBch:
Don't know. Big Red's track record normally doesn't see a second BL unlock after patching an exploit.

Have faith man!

I'm with you. The device is not very old. Once recovery gets all ironed out the builds will come.....
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
Recovery works as far as flashing ROMs. Just doesn't seem to be many devs here yet that's all
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Tinkerer76:
I used Depixel8 to unlock bootloader. Took the OTA to 7.1.1, and bootloader is still unlocked as expected.

I've read jcase's warnings not to relock the bootloader, but it isn't elaborated on as to why. I suspect that warning was specifically for VZW folks who unlocked the bootloader, flashed Play Store image (NDE63V) because they'd brick it. Is that the same situation with 7.1.1 and NMF26Q?

I want to relock the bootloader, sell the phone, and get a Play Store version.

Going to cross post this in the Pixel XL forum thread. Apologies if you read it twice.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] cntryby429:
First off, his warning was multi-faceted. Most importantly, don't relock if your system isn't completely stock. Also, for VZW and EE phones, don't relock unless you are sure you won't want to re-unlock in the future. As someone looking to sell an unlocked VZW pixel, you might wait to relock as it might be worth more to a buyer unlocked.

I don't know if it's safe to relock a VZW pixel that's got a completely stock play store system. However, I would avoid it as it may be risky and brings little/no benefit that I can think of.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Tinkerer76:
I am in contact with my buyer to inquire which they prefer.

To your latter point- with 7.1.1 aren't the images identical for VZW/Play-Store?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
What??? You do realize it's the EXACT same phone right. Now that you've unlocked the bootloader.. why in the world would you sell it and get the same phone again.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quangtran1:
Well, I hear what you're saying, but there's a difference warranty wise. In talking to VZW (VP level), bootloader unlocking voids warranty on Verizon Pixel, but not the Google store one. So, for catastrophic circumstances where your PC can't access your V Pixel to relock it, it makes it interesting to dispute warranty issues.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] FernBch:
I wouldn't relock it if you have 26Q on it. The latest official VZW build is 26O
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Tinkerer76:
Apologies, I meant I have 26O.

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Sell it to get grab cash in the last minute Christmas rush. I would prefer the 128 size as well. There's really no need to chastise or judge here. You haven't considered every angle.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TheNerdLLC:
Thanks for this post. Just unlocked mine.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bush911:
Verizon based device or Google stock device?

I just bought a real blue pixel via third-part. How can I know my device is from Verizon or from Google stock?

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Is that mean my device is based on verizon

C:\adb>fastboot devices

FA6BM0303755 fastboot

C:\adb>fastboot oem unlock

...

FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)

finished. total time: 0.046s

C:\adb>

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Is that mean my device is based on verizon

C:\adb>fastboot devices

FA6BM0303755 fastboot

C:\adb>fastboot oem unlock

...

FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)

finished. total time: 0.046s

C:\adb>
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] FernBch:
What build is on it?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Did you hit the slider on developer options to allow unlocking?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] bush911:
No, I didn't. Have not been unlocked BL for several years .:D

Now , The BL unlocked and rooted
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Awesome. Glad you got it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] xdeslitx:
Hi I just got my Pixel and was dumb enough to update it while I was at the store waiting. I'm on 26O and enable OEM unlocking in dev options is greyed out. Does that mean I'm out of luck? I just really want to be able to root it so i can used titanium backup...any suggestions? or any suggestions for a similar app to titanium backup that lets you do full backup/restore of apps and user app settings? thanks
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] aholeinthewor1d:
You can't root or unlock now. If it's important I would think of an "issue" with your phone and have Verizon switch it out. Or pay the restocking fee to return and get it right away again. Take the SIM card out, skip signing into wifi during setup. Then enable developer options and turn off auto updates in there. That way you can let Verizon activate it after that while you're there.. cause they will probably want to. Then once you get home you can unlock with fastboot and dePixel8
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quangtran1:
Well, I don't know which Pixel version you have. If you have the Verizon version, that option is always grayed out. Isn't 26Q, not 26O, the update that patched bootloader unlocking for Verizon Pixels?

Also, you can use Helium to back up non-rooted device if need be.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] xdeslitx:
thanks i actually just saw helium like right when you posted...im going to give it a try...it might be the app im looking for...thanks :)
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I believe both releases of 7.1.1, NMF26O and NMF26Q on Verizon phones, patched the exploit DePixel8 used.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quangtran1:
I don't remember any more, but thanks for reminding.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] xdeslitx:
helium worked great...thanks!!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quangtran1:
Nice!!!!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You're welcome! Cheers.

Good to know, thanks for the report. I haven't tried Helium in a while but might try it on this Pixel.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Strike9172:
So I apologize if this has already been asked/answered, but I am thinking of purchasing the VZW Pixel from a local phone kiosk (because they have them in stock), but not powering the phone on until I replace the VZW sim with my AT&T sim card. Will this allow me to eventually have a Play Store version of the Pixel with unlockable bootloader; whether that be straight out of the box or utilizing depixel8 and flashing stock google firmware/bootloader?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] inneyeseakay:
No. It will still have the locked bootloader.

You can depixel8 to unlock bootloader, but flashing "stock" doesn't make it a Google Play Pixel... Verizon firmware and stock firmware are the same with the exception of some slight radio tweaks.

Until a dev says/releases otherwise, Verizon pixels will always be Verizon pixels... No way to make the bootloader unlockable/relockable freely.

That being said, I'm using a Verizon Pixel XL with AT&T that was never activated on Verizon. I have no problems or complaints. Besides not being able to lock and unlock my bootloader freely, it's identical to a Google Play Pixel XL.

Sent from my 0000FF Pixel XL
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] sd_shadow:
You can

Change Active System Partition with Fastboot Command in Bootloader Mode

Fastboot set_active _a

or

Fastboot set_active _b

if the other system partition is older, it might be possible to unlock

of course this could be risky

or likely can't switch with locked bootloader
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
Bootloader unlocked question

I have successfully unlocked the bootloader and tried the boot-to-root.img unsuccessfully (ended in bootloop). I may have received OTA security patch or something? So, I loaded stock image, flashed boot_a and boot_b and was able to get back into phone with 7.1. Now OTA doesn't work. Once the BL is unlocked, can I goto later builds? I'd like to flash to 7.1.1 so that the TWRP and SuperSU can be installed? In other words, will I be able to goto later builds with bootloader unlocked or do I need to stop at Nov16 one for now? Thanks.

Pixel 7.1

Unlocked BL
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes you can update, here are some great instructions. Yes it's a solution to a different problem but it's how we update also. Don't worry about the bootloader. Once it's unlocked you have to manually lock it with fastboot commands not from a update.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
Great! Using Fastboot to flash to Feb2017 7.1.1 Build, Installing TWRP and SuperSU, Is OTA not possible? Or better yet, do I want OTA updates? I don't think I will install a custom ROM, just want Root access. Thanks again.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
To add to the above.

After you get flashed up to date make sure you use TWRP RC1 and SU 2.79 SR3

Any other versions and you will bootloop again and have to start over. Let us know if you need a hand.

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After you do all that you wont be able to do a regular ota, it will fail on root. Probably can sideload the ota with TWRP.

I just reflash following the awesome directions linked above. Its 10 minutes to do it including rerooting and is always nice and clean.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
Thanks all above. For some reason, last night the Flash-all.bat failed with "can't find emulator" error (don't remember the exact error) So, I manually flashed what I thought where the pertinent partitions, which included some *_b partitions (hope that didn't hurt) but did get me out of the bootloop. This is where i am currently 7.1 without root. Tonight, I will go and download the latest .img and flash only the tips and tricks listed pertinent partitions, Get TWRP RC1 and SuperSU 2.79 SR3 and see how far I get.

I am on Verizon so should I get the U or X version. I'm on the P .img now which is not listed as Verizon so I'm unsure which one to use. Thanks for your help.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
You want the Feb V version for a Pixel.

https://developers.google.com/android/images#sailfish

Flashall works, you got something going on. Are you sure you got Google's fastboot and not the one from 'Minimal'? And make sure you got the google drivers installed.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
You're right I might have the Minimal version. I recall v1.42 but I'll look for the Google version. Also, when would I use the sideload OTA versus the flash img? I climbed the learning curve last night and feel much more comfortable now but may have flashed something incorrectly last night as a last ditch effort to get out of bootloop. i.e. modem_b, or vendor_b or something like that.

If 'fastboot devices' list's the device, I can assume I have the correct driver? I did not get new driver since installing the drivers for the Nexus 6 and 5x, but assumed they were the same or close enough?

Thanks so much for your help.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Yea, you got the right drivers. And that awesome write up linked to above has the link to the correct google fastboot and adb.

If I had a nickle for each time i helped someone using minimal i would be sending this from my private island in the Bahamas.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
Syntax question

I thought i had run Flash-all.bat script from fastboot in the past but I guess not. I'm running it now. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Flash.bat script worked just fine tonight. Now looking for the SuperSU v2.79 SR3, then I'll boot into recovery TWRP and install it. Thanks.

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Found the repo for the SuperSU builds on XDA. SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-Systemmode.zip was installed with TWRP RC1 but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Thanks.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Top one here

https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/27xToSqi5em

IIRC you have to then install SU from the olay store.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] snakeman1978:
It worked. I'm all good thanks so much for your help.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] DA6030:
For future reference, this screen can be accessed within the activity com.android.sdm.plugins.connmo.UpdateMenuActivity

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69356412&postcount=33
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] olszewek:
Hi.

I've done the procedure at least 20 or 30 times and still not done.

of course tried trick with chrome everytime.

Always after "[+] getting there, about 20 more seconds please" phone goes sleep and restarts after few more seconds.

don't know what to do to finally succeed ://

any hints??

regards

Olo
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] robocuff:
dePixel8 doesn't work anymore. The exploit was patched in December of 2016. Currently, there is no known way to unlock the Verizon bootloader. As far as I know anyway.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] olszewek:
Thank's, how about EE bootloader??
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] robocuff:
I'm pretty sure it's the same for an EE phone. At least from what I've read.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
If the EE contract on the phone is over you contact them. They will set it up so you are SIM and bootloader unlocked. Don't know the details, just what I have seen in the last posted here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MatroxD:
Just wondering if I am missing something: image clip is not included correct? I am wondering, as I had no need until today to build a small picture collage, and could not.. Does anyone have an apk?

From note 5.. rip note 7