yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Well wooptiedoo I'm pretty much done finding the differences... now to weed through it to find whats important and what not ... see y'all next year :D

EDIT: Well I'm pretty much done. Writing a patch as we speak. Take into account that those who want to test it WILL need to HARD-RESET if it doesn't go right. I think I got both WiFi and GPS covered, cross your fingers all this work isn't for nothing :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Ahh man if this works your a genius....If not no problem ,thanks for your work and time you've put in.

cheers
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Hard reset not a problem :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cassio:
yay!

looking forward to it mate!

cheers!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Hennevey:
just wanted to say "yiiiiiiiihaaaaaaa" as some kind of encouragement :D

... and remember: of your results will depend my future christmas gift :)

but by all means yet thanks a lot for the efforts put into this !!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Here goes nothing ...

Ok guys, here it is. Note that this one is for the

TOUCH DUAL

WARNING

Be prepared to do a HARD-RESET if you do this!

Attached is a zip file. Extract it somewhere, put both the files in the same folder on your device, SOFT-RESET and run the exe. Click "Patch" and wait. A LOG file will be generated. Please attach it in a new post here. SOFT-RESET again.

If all goes well, your device will not be bricked. If all goes really well, WiFi and GPS may be working. You may still need to fiddle with the WLANManager.exe and such, as well as internal GPS settings before it actually comes alive. So if it doesn't work, keep fiddling with it for a bit before saying "NAY, Chainfire wasted my time and made me do a hard-reset". Also, you may have to reinstall the Comm Manager (use the CAB posted in this topic earlier).

If it was a total waste of our time, you should do a hard-reset, it could be that your device doesn't act weird, but it probably will :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cassio:
ok...

wish me luck
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
*crosses fingers*

Something just hit me though, if this patch doesn't work (I'm pretty sure I got everything in there), maybe a different radio rom should be flashed as well... hmm..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cassio:
ok...um...how should i be testing it?

i could get to the settings for wifi from comms manager, but it doesn't turn the wifi on

also, does this patch replace the original comms manager? it looks different, though the functions are still the same...like a new skin perhaps :P

p.s. i just hard reset the dual to try again to make sure...don't have much on it anyway, so doesn't really matter
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Well nothing goes seriously wrong, but again nothing activates.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Good question... how to test it :D

For one, you could download WMWifiRouter (see my signature), load it up, and see if it gives you TNETW1251 device name in the log box on startup. It'll also turn it on if you press 'connect', btw.

You can fiddle with GPS with GPSViewer or GPSTest, see if it does anything at all.

The Comm Manager is from the Kaiser, but I'm not sure it works well on a Dual...

Anyone have any bright ideas?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
I also get an error when trying to launch QuickGPS

"Failed to create empty document"

As my Dual is still working as it was I'm leaving all these mod's on them.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Well I guess this is pretty much it then, it might well be all these files and registry entries are good, but you don't have the right radio rom... :/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cassio:
here's the log file from a completely stock orange-branded touch dual

gps test doesn't report anything about a gps on one of the com ports

wmwifirouter crashes when it gets to "Starting ICS" stage...had to reset

any chance of patching the radio rom as well? :P
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Shoulden't the be some setting panel for the internal GPS?

Also are we missing

\Windows\QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui

\Windows\GPSAux.dll.0409.mui

files?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
No there is no control panel for internal GPS, only for Windows Intermediate GPS thingy. I dont have those 0409 files on my Kaiser ... I do have some 0413 files though.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
They are the ones

Just a diff language, the 0413 needs changing to 0409
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Thought as much...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Also, have no idea what these two do, they may help (or not)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] madds:
i installed these cabs but no luck...

One thing i noticed, is that if you go to wlan settings in the second tab usualy appears the mac adress even when wifi is turned off.

In dual it doesn't appear...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Ahh thats a shame..thanks anyways Chainfire for your work.

Do you think there's still hope with a future Radio update?

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] bram_smulders:
there is a dual forum!!

gr. bram
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Could be. As far as I can tell you have all the files to make it operational, as well as the registry entries, radio rom is the only thing left I'd say. Maybe you could try flashing the radio rom from the japanese version that does have WiFi and GPS. Or maybe there is just no way to make it work...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Hennevey:
Does the Japanese version have BOTH wifi AND gps ?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Kuniyo:
I heard that the Jap version is CDMA version. So... If ours is the GSM, then the configs might differ.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Hennevey:
I thought the cdma version was the one released by Sprint in the USA aka Vogue.

More info whether the jap version has got wifi ANd gps?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] fguitch:
Thank you very much for your work Chainfire.

But there is something I don't understand, if the radio is really off in the ROM, why hdubli in the GPS topic, could get the GPS Fix ?:

Sorry for my English ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] airnan:
I am afraid the HTC Touch Dual in Japan (HT1100) doesnt have GPS&Wifi...

To read a translated version of japanesse HTC page, press this link:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...ttdocomo.co.jp/product/business_model/ht1100/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] madds:
at least it has fm radio!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Well it SEEMS all the files and registry entries are accounted for. Ofcourse there is always the possibility I missed something.

However, you must keep in mind that this guy has tools from HTC that we don't, that may will be able to activate / deactive things we cannot.

This is also why I told you guys to fiddle with the GPS with GPSTest and GPSViewer, as it may be there after the patch, we're just not having it complete right yet :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] madds:
found a gpsviewer.exe on google:

http://pocketmap.com/accessories/GpsViewer.exe

but tries to open all ports and doesn't find any
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Dont know if anyones seen this...i found it in the other GPS thread.

Here are actual internal pics of the touch dual...thanks to uiqjirka

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1726910&postcount=48
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Ive unpacked them...I hope uiqjirka dont mind?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] shinji_73:
Something is starting also on the new official thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=350860
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Dagnelinos:
in the second photo is visible the antenna for signal,on the top-right angle.

i'm not sure that is for gsm signal or for wifi/gps :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Can we continue this here: Over at the Nike(Niki) forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=350829

Leave these Elf folk alone now.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] uiqjirka:
On my pictures there are two antenna outputs : on the right top and on the right bottom.Both outputs are certainly not intended for GSM.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
I have both of those on my TyTN II as well (next to eachother, though) and nothing is connected to it... I know one of them is for an external GPS antenna, not sure about the other.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] guap:
moderators, can you join this thread with this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=350829 one? thank you ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] foosoomin:
It looks like the Wifi function is very hard to crack
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Chainfire:

Just wondering if you could post a RegDump (possibly directory/file listing) of your Kaiser?

I think we are still missing some registry entires.

One such entrie:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN]

"DeviceName"="{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TNETW12511"

If I know how to extract files from Rom's I'd probably stand a better chance at all this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Pharaohnough:
It's very difficult to extract/dump the ROM from the Touch Dual... Overall it look like a very closed up device... at least for now :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] chrisyeo83:
Sorry,

I am not sure how to cook the rom or tweak the device, but i am suggesting whether it is possible to get hold of the Japanese rom and edit from there?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Hmm, could somebody try this AGAIN?

Use the BIN file from the zip here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1725375&postcount=79

but using the exe from the attached zip?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] motin:
htc touch dual

tried it on my unit

managed to boot what should i try

wlan wont start
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Try the GPS!

EDIT: I know I missed one or two entries that are probably needed in the WLAN stuff, I'll cook up a new BIN in an hour or 6, probably
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] motin:
htc touch dual

tried igo and autodetect gps software they are both going to com 7 scaning the baud rate from 4800 till 57600 and then no gps found
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Excellent...thanks Chainfire
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
i compare in the moment in a asia rom ...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] SplatMan_DK:
Developers: Please note ...

Hi developers (the real ones!).

Please note the following post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1733688#post1733688

I would be happy to help if I can.

brgds

- Jesper
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Ok here goes one more try, guess it wont help, but hey... I'm now 99% sure you have all registry and DLL's needed...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] motin:
Htc Touch Dual

gd mrng tried this also no change igo or wifi or nothing shows up - but every software i run goes to com 7 and tries all baud rate !

gd day
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] IceHack:
Hi Chainfire....

i downloaded you files....

what are they about? ...is the .exe to get the GPS?

Thanks a lot

bye bye
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] thaoula:
Hi Guys,

I downloaded and ran the files. I got no GPS and no WIFI. Also, I could not run comm manager.

Kind Regards,

Tarek
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
if you dont know what a file do ... start it in a virtual PPC like device manager from MS.

this file insert some files and regkeys ... after that its possible gps works or not!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Well I've picked up some things with trying to get HW accelleration working on the Kaiser, which may well be the cause for this not working (aside from that maybe it is impossible). Some of those things may help here, but I would need physical access to a Touch Dual to test and try...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] varior:
Maybe you can deal with SplatMan_DK : see his post
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
That MAY work out, but I'd rather have someone who lives in Utrecht, Netherlands drop by and let me fiddle with it for a couple of hours... would be much handier :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Yet another attempt, some things changed on the actual driver files front:

- make sure to have your device backed up (with sprite or so)

- be prepared to do a hard-reset

- use at your own risk

- download and extract the attached zip file and copy files to your device

- install the CAB

- run the EXE

- soft-reset

- be disappointed, probably ;)

EDIT: forgot to attach the file, AGAIN! :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] BSmart:
TouchDualWifiGPS

Just tried it.. I'm somewhere in the region of 'be disappointed'..

Copied it.. installed both files.. did a softreset.

Started the Comm Manager:

Comm Manager msgbox:

Failed to reading "Software\HTC\CommManager\5"...

After some browsing I noticed the following:

There's a Wi-Fi icon in the Setting / Connections, clicking this shows connections.

First in line: IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi, but unable to 'enable' since comm manager is not working.

Regarding GPS: The device now seems to detect something on comm 4 Tested with GPSTest.exe and google Maps. Google Maps halted after switching to comm 4.

Started TomTom.. now I can select GPS on Comm 4.. but GPS Status: No GPS Device..

Close but no sigar I guess..

Time to restore the backup.

Keep it up!

Edit1: after restoring my backup I got a 'strange green' Comm Manager.. but seemed to be working.

After performing a hardreset then restoring it was back to normal..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
I think we're getting closer as on the kaiser its comm4

As anyone tried this patch on the test rom in the other thread?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Well just thought this up with the patch I posted a few posts up:

- the first guy that showed GPS working already mentioned this GPS talks with Qualcomm protocol, while I think those tools all use NMEA. We should find a tool somewhere that talks Qualcomm (I think TomTom can actually do that, btw). The Windows GPS layer should translate this (I think) but I guess that's something else that doesn't work yet

- seeing as comm manager stop working, try installing the patch, and then installing the "kaiser 10 button comm manager"
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Hey, Done the "kaiser 10 button comm manager" patch after, Result's in no Wi-Fi and if you attempt to start wi-fi Comm Manager starts to eat the device RAM up, so much so that Start>>Programs/Start>>Settings/Calendar all refuse to work, Calendar even report an error of not enough RAM.

A couple of other thing's, MAC address is still blank, without this Wi-Fi would not turn on anyhow.

I think, as somebody else also posted, the Radio ROM is the cause of these features not working and no matter if we get all the right files and reg setting's these features will not turn on.

Another possible solution would be for somebody to flash a kaiser's Radio ROM to the Dual, (I'm not that mad to do it)

Edit:

I've also been getting an error with QuickGPS failing to launch every time I try to sync.

This can be fixed by getting the English QuickGPS CAB found on this site.

It's caused by missing or incorrectly named MUI files.

This would be nice to have working in the end, although for me it's becoming less of an issue.

So now I'll leave it to others who know more about it. (Thats if they ever come back and respond to claims they have already made!!)

But if this does not ever work, Don't stress, just wait for the end of your Contract/Got enough cash and buy a model that should do it.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mivec:
ok may i know how to hard reset my Touch Dual and not "Clear Storage"

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
Hard reset is "Clear Storage".
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mivec:
ok, other than the clear storage is there another way for me to do a hard reset as my friend touch dual is unable to bootup

Cheers
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] cassio:
press the reset button while holding down "call" and "end". release the two buttons after releasing the reset button
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
Can someone dump Part00 and Part01 as well?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] BSmart:
What is part00 and part01.. tell me how and I'll give it a try.

Regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
See this post :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] RsRichard:
do you think youll get one of the things working at any time? gps / wlan?

or is it just a try and error?

i am very thankful that youre doing this work^^ great community
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Chainfire:
It's pretty much trial and error because I do not have a Touch (or Touch Dual, or Touch Cruise, or ...). The latest set of files I have posted here at least do something, as a GPS is locatable on COM4. Someone who actually has a Touch Dual will have to figure it out from there. As I have said before, the best thing would be if I had a Touch Dual in my hands so I could fiddle with it, but I don't know anyone who has one.

Still, even if I DID have a Touch Dual in my hands, it'd take me a lot of tinkering to know if it will work in the end.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] t0p0gigi0:
I will receive one soon. Then I can help on this tests.

I think you are almost there.;)

Soon or later we all have at least Wifi in Touch Dual :cool:

(maybe GPS too, :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dabs:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77103304/Niki-1.31.405.09-WWE-dabs.zip.html

Part00-02.raw

16-key

ROM is WWE 1.31.405.09 dated 10/31/07

Radio is 1.58.16.27

just the .raw files
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] live2themaxuk:
Polaris

From what i gather, do the Polaris and the Touch Dual not use identical hardware? (Polaris has Wifi and GPS)

What is the chance of getting a Polaris ROM, editing the revelant parts, and just uploading this to the Touch Dual? or is this too 'risky'?

J
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Dagnelinos:
the Polaris is similar but not identical.

The difference between the 2 terminal is the absence of keyboard, the rollr, the fm radio. Probably the internal architecture is very different.

The same probably, imho, than dump a rom from tyntII to dual.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] live2themaxuk:
Well all i can say is i really hope you guys crack this. The Touch Dual is a lovely phone, but to leave off Wi-fi from it, is in my opinion as unacceptable as Apple's Iphone having no 3G. A truely backwards step, all thigns considered.

If things dont come good here, i guess ill be buying an O2 Orbit II in the new year, but damn, the DUAL is sexy, and so useful having a keypad. I wouldnt look like an excecutive holding it up to my ear to take a call. . .

J
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Lukasss:
Hi Chainfire...

I live in Antwerp, have a shiny new Touch Dual. If you want me to I could scoot over to Utrecht for a few hours...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
I have dumped all touch roms i have found!

no one have a application or driversettings for a fm radio!!! in the HTC Asia Rom is only a new Java Middletmanager and a GSM tool to switch betwen 2 phonelines. my provider use this function.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] foosoomin:
After so many post & testings & trials, it seems like Touch Dual does not have the internal antenna for GPS, Wifi & Fm Radio :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Vorbeth:
I'd say were missing the correct radio ROM rarther than missing hardware.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] wizain:
keep the hard work guys,go ahead!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
beginning work on this now, seems the same as the hermes where you could connect to the GPS but only get garbage data from it :( (no antenna's) will continue testing
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Dagnelinos:
no, hdubli have a fix with 4 satellites...

the antenna is present
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Dagnelinos:
hdubli, please post the procedure for the dual, a cool gift from Christmas :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jinedward:
under Wireless Setting.. we found this.. :p

Wireless LAN is OFF.

Turn on Wireless LAN

when press the blue Msg... nothing will happen..:(

Hopefully our mighty XDA D MOD can do some magic on it..:cool:

Turn it on~ :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Any updates on this guys?

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
I'm cooking a ROM with the drivers for it in the hope that it will then work, ill keep you updated
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Scann69:
Merrry Christmas dude.....i'm just waiting for the WiFi to work then i'll go out and get myself a brand new TouchDual :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
Thats brilliant matey.....thanks alot
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gullum:
I gave my girlfrien a touch dual for christmas and would love the get wifi working for her.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] NetrunnerAT:
oh gullum ... nice to see you!

ich bin grad dabei ein SSPL zu schreiben mit Freunden ... scheis deassebler :-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] live2themaxuk:
heres to hoping santa brings us a working ROM . . . .:)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
I have a working rom, just waiting on olipro/cmonex to make a patched spl ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] GpsPasSion:
"working rom" as in wifi working on the Nike ? Wow, that would be something ;-) Sorry for my ignorance, but was is spl ?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] tcs80:
If the "working" rom included Wifi actived, XDA will make itself headlines yet again :P
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Midget_1990:
ill have to see when i can flash it ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] J273:
So is the patch being worked on then?

Are we close to being able to flash the rom?

Sorry not being impatient ...Just asking

cheers
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] tcs80:
Well, as long as WiFi is activated, i dun mind waiting a little while :) HTC should be graceful becoz it's gonna double the sales of NIKI :P I knew a lot ppl are hesitated to buy becoz of the lacking of WiFi.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
i dont think htc would be too pleased.. if they disabled it for a reason that is..

my guess is they wanted the original touch to keep selling and not become obsolete in the duals shadow.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Scann69:
I'm just waiting for the WiFi to work....if it does then i can just go out and get one :D Still keeping my fingers crossed.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] HolyOle:
How is it Going with the WiFi reasearch?

I will gladly help if you guys need something :)

I'm from norway so don't complain about my English please:P
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jincongz:
Either I don't know Europe very well, or you guys are missing an important point here. This may be the key!

For me... I think I need to import the Japanese one. Fido runs on GSM 850, so whoever posted this link: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=847&id2=736 , If they're right, will be my saviour. My prophet is doing fine, I just want to type faster.