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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Still playing around with the cameras on this phone and trying to figure out their limits but I have to say that overall I'm impressed. The noise around ISO 800 is really great. It gives a classic feel to photos once converted over to B&W. (My preferred type of photography.) Shot this one in the museum yesterday: https://flic.kr/p/Ny5oTk (ISO 800 at 1/13 of a second in manual mode. Processed in Snapseed to compress the dynamic range, make it a bit grittier, and convert to B&W. Which is funny because the photo exhibition is for a photographer that would also make his prints grittier and darker than the original negative.)

Overall, I'd have to say there aren't really any surprises so far. Yes, ISO 3200 isn't going to be the best. No camera is anywhere near its best at the top of its listed ISO range, even my full frame Nikon DSLR's. Reds will be a bit of a challenge but that's a Sony imaging sensor thing for well over a decade now. In auto mode, it wants to expose to the right, as I've said elsewhere around here before. This means it's going to try to get brighter exposures. The wide angle sensor needs light due to the physical size of the sensor and the aperture. Don't expect miracles from it in low light. That goes triple for the front facing camera. In fact, I've never had a front facing camera I've liked. (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Asus and now LG) The nice thing about the V20 is that I'll just most likely turn on the voice shutter and use the main camera when I decide to be narcissistic. Hopefully that glass doesn't break from that kind of exposure.

I still want to play with this HDR on/off theory. With the Nexus 6, HDR always being on was the norm as that really helped out. I'll be interested in seeing what helps/hurts. Also still trying to get the video nailed down. Also still playing with slo-mo and time lapse.

One other thing.... I've noticed some complaints here and there that might benefit from some input as to what is happening with the cameras and software. Would there be interest in a thread exclusively dedicated to this kind of a Q&A help? I suspect some people are expecting way too much out of a cellphone camera that I wouldn't even expect out of a dedicated camera.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Yeah yeah. We all know. Dont get your panties in a twist like everyone is wont to do over any sort of cellphone cam quality praise.

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It starts nearly instantly for me.. It seems there's a huge quality control issue of some sort with these
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Some I took this morning. . the one directly attached to this post is heavily cropped.

https://imgur.com/LOuXT95

https://imgur.com/JTdALDG
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
I'd be interested in that. I'm still very novice in photography tbh. I've been extremely pleased with the output of the v20 but I almost exclusively shoot in manual mode.

Oooh. That museum pic is gorgeous. I love b/w photography.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
[MENTION=1358997]helf[/MENTION] so I ended up calling T-Mobile and they're shipping a replacement.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Awesome! Let us know how it goes
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Will do. Unfortunately, my family member's V20 came today, and it looks like it has the same noise reduction problem (took the same picture on both phones, full auto). I don't really have much hope :/.

T-Mobile messed up brightness. Maybe they did something to the camera too.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Thank you and I see from your linked shot, very nice and I'm jealous that you get fog. Not much of that around here until winter.

I'll see about getting that thread going.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Fontana Dam this past weekend (12/4/16)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Heck yeah! That looks good. I think the V20 is perfect for B&W photography.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Slypnslyde:
Beautiful pics especially the one with the little girl in the red leaves (no pedophile) lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadowxaero:
Few different shots I took. Second one is with the wide angle lens.

http://i.imgur.com/cZJI0Jf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3331vIU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/s7OPdO6.jpg
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Nice! What is that first one ? It looks cool. Love the plane :D I use the wide-angle a lot more often than I thought I would.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
Playing with Manual focus
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Sunrise in my backyard before I left for my commute yesterday (12/8) and then playing with self portraits in the afternoon sunbeams that hit my desk at work.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Had a collision on the highway Monday. Spent a couple hours on the side of the road getting the car driveable again. Saw it as a bit of a photo op chance :p

I purposefully angled for lens flare. I liked howit looked
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Finally got the new phone. There's much less noise reduction.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Sweet! i wonder what the issue was.

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I didn't think about it but it but we should have gotten a much info as possible about your old unit. Like camera software revision, firmware builds etc
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
I still have it and I'm still using it. The new phone only has three steps for the AOD: off, 0% brightness, 100% brightness.

I love this phone, but it seems to be really inconsistent.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
You can change the second screen brightness?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
It does it by itself. Even with manual brightness, it still adjusts automatically on the new phone. With my current one, it adjusts correctly. On the new one, it's either full dark or full bright.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Huh that's weird.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suaverc118:
I don't k ow how to use the manual mode on this damn phone. anyone have a link to learn from if it's YouTube or whatever? Thanks
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suaverc118:
Can anyone explain how to get my picture quality from 90-100%? Thanks
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Save as RAW?

This thread is for sharing photos you've taken and discussing them. If you want to ask about how to use the camera, you should make your own thread.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
I wrote up a little bit somewhere in one of these camera threads. I might have even repeated myself in a couple. The V20 is very good for learning though since it tends to show you real time what will happen before you even click the shutter. I suggest playing around a bit. I will tell you to keep the ISO as low as you can. Raising ISO will cause noise. This goes for any camera. Keep your shutter speed high enough to counter handheld vibration or freeze motion if that's what you're after. Realize that ISO and shutter speed will go hand in hand and you'll have to make choices and sacrifices.

You'll need to give more information as to what you mean by "from 90-100%". This means nothing in photography.

As far as I can tell, this is a catchall thread. I did start a thread to help out those who are seeing issues with their images but no one has taken me up on it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suaverc118:
Thanks ks for the help.

This is what I mean in quality. When I had my OPO, I could chose the quality from 85% to 100%.

Here's a shot of it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
That's kind of a tricky bit there. What that's usually doing is asking how much compression you want on the given file and how much detail you're prepared to lose for a given jpg file. That option doesn't exist on the V20 camera app. I do have it on Camera FV-5 and it defaults to 100%. I'm guessing the V20 native app does too by looks of the files in comparison. What you can do is pick the highest resolution and if you really want, shoot RAW.....

......The big problem with shooting RAW is that you are seeing "pure" "untouched" sensor data without sharpening or noise reduction. This is going to lay out for you all the faults that software has to fix for a sensor this small. (Even smaller if you're using the wide angle and even smaller still if you're using the front facing camera!) RAW is not something most people actually want to see and if you don't know what to realistically expect to see from a given sensor size under certain circumstances, I do not suggest this looking at RAW files.

Ask away if you have any other questions about what you're seeing.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] LuRock:
What you guys think?

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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suaverc118:
What were your camera settings?

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I read RAW was good for having better options with modding the pictures.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] suaverc118:
May I see what it looks like on your camera settings? Like a screen shot please.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
It lets you change some things that might have gotten screwed up in the initial shot such as white balance and lets you apply things like noise reduction and sharpening to your liking. White balance and sharpening are pretty easy to do on mobile. Noise reduction is still a bit problematic it looks like. I haven't really found a mobile app that does this well. Another big reason for people shooting RAW on larger cameras is that you can have some latitude to adjust the exposure and recover shadows and highlights that might get lost. I'll just go ahead and say it now, that's asking A LOT from a cellphone and wouldn't count on this being a reason to shoot RAW.

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Needs more hoses? :P Looks like the camera did well.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahdibassam:
Food shots are always my favorite [emoji4]
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Madanzo:
Taken last night in manual mode, no filters or touching up.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
nice. What are the ISO/Shutter settings?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Madanzo:
Iso 50, shutter speed 30 seconds.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
It has an almost "miniature" effect.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Madanzo:
I thought so too. Must be something to do with the focus.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Ah ok. I figured it was a long exposure like that. That's awesome. I bought myself a beastgrip so I could play with lenses and have a tripod mount. Great for long exposures :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahdibassam:
Just imagine my ****ty car is a Lamborghini :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Logantbrown:
Girlfriends parents creepy basement. I thought the color/lighting/cobwebs all made for a nice shot. Auto mode, no flash

Edit: not sure why it's sideways...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
That's cool. I like photos like that lol. I have taken a bunch of my shed
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Been playing with portraits. Currently just some of me. Will take ones of other people soon.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Logantbrown:
Nice! Those are gnarly in a great way. Did you do any editing?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Yes. Some white balance changes, color correction, exposure adjustments etc. The widest angle, dark shed photo with the paintings and the shelf and all i did almost no adjusting to. Just some slight white balance and exposure adjusting to make it true to life.

The one of the jars in the box by the window I edited a far amount. I shoot only in manual mode and usually use lightroom to finish the images and sometimes snapseed or others.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Gah! The photos posted here aren't opening for me right now. I suspect my local network at work is running too slow. The thumbnails all look really awesome though.

I've been wanting to get some portraits too but haven't found any subjects I want to shoot yet.

Did get this last night at the theater before Rogue One: https://www.instagram.com/p/BOEM3m1jmJW/

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Now they're opening! Helf, really like the first and last of the set of four. Reminds me of old master paintings type of light.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Thanks! I'm still learning so much. And I hadnt thought about those paintings in a long time!

That lobby pic you took looks amazing
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahdibassam:
Nice day out here in Auckland, New Zealand :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
I want to visit NZ so badly :o
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahdibassam:
You definitly should mate, you will see places 10 times more beautiful than the photo I posted :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
NZ is on my list. Want to go climbing and stay in a hut in the alps there then hit up a beach and go surf. :D But I also need to get back to Australia and do some more touring there too.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dakunclear:
Taken from my work
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Walk at a park this weekend. Horrible overcast lighting. Phone handled it pretty well.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] MadMikeSS:
Took this at the Carrier Dome in Syracuse NY for Cuse vs Georgetown, Pearl Washington day.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] helf:
Niiice! Gotta love the wide Angle
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahdibassam:
Food shots are always the best ?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] JayFReaZy:
Going with the food pictures...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
Handheld a 2 secs shutter speed
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Woke up just not long ago hungry with no food in the house. Opened the wrong thread. :D
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
Saw this Chinese elderly couple at the jetty today, thought it made a great composition
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dimm0k:
any tips for the front facing camera? seems like the photos always come out grainy even in decent lighting
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Well it's only 4.9MP, with some non-impressive aperture size.

However, I just tried it and mine isn't all that grainy. Lots of noise reduction, and even some beautifying even though it's off, but not much grain.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
Anyone know if there is a way to clip on an nd filter onto the camera? Even though I am afraid the camera lens might shatter, I believe the output would be worth the risk. I have a tripod and phone mount ready
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
As Zacharee1 has said, it's not that high of rated camera. I'll add that the sensor's physical size is a bit problematic. I still am not sure how they're doing the wide angle/regular view on the FF camera. That's an extra bit of voodoo that I'm sure doesn't help. Overall, I've never been impressed with the FF camera on any phone, including Samsung. If you really need a selfie worth using, activate the voice shutter and use the main camera or the wide angle if you're uncertain about framing. Or have someone else take it with the main camera. (Which has always been my stance any way. If you really care how you look in the photo, ask a friend or stranger to take it for you. Baffles me that people take these selfies to be "social" on social media but can't be bothered to be social to get a decent photo.)

Can't think of a clip on answer to this. You could attempt to rubberband your ND filter to the camera and it might be as stable as those clip on filters would be. (Which is to say, not very for the length of time such a photo might take.) Kamerar has a housing for cellphones that have a filter thread which you could get a step ring for and it has a tripod thread. Only downside is that this housing is on sale for $85.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BackCheck:
It was a fairly nice day for December in Ohio so I though I'd take some pics of our teleport.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
No idea what all I've posted before so to avoid duplication, just this one shot inside a dark jazz club last night. ISO 3200, 1/30 sec. Processed in Snapseed.

https://flic.kr/p/QvPUrU

(I really need to figure out which link to use to link so the photo just populates here at some point but that day is not today.)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Flickr is stupid with image sharing. If you want the direct link, you have to hit the share button and choose the embed option. Inside the embed HTML, there will be a direct link. Copy that and wrap it in image tags. Flickr won't let you selectively copy the embed code, so you'll have to paste it somewhere, edit it and copy the link you get.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
That's what I was afraid of last time I tried. Ugh.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
Caught this projection on the river yesterday. Didn't know they place projectors on top of the Marina Bay Sands building
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] imalift:
The wide angle is pretty lit
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Wow! Looks like you had a pretty good time. Someone here in KC needs to get their act together to come up with an amazing NYE party.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] LuRock:
Auto HDR on.

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Not too bad for a phone ?

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1.8 -50 -1/40
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rudbwoy:
Looks great! What amps are you using at that site, if you don't mind me asking?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BackCheck:
It's an uplink for a satellite internet provider.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dakunclear:
Just random using auto settings
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Or if you click the download button, and right click the side you want, you can copy the link from there as well. And if you want, go to "all sizes," click the image size you want, then copy the image URL from the image there.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Byte_76:
I took my new phone along on a short holiday recently and used it quite a lot for group and scenery photos. I'm a bit disappointed with the low light photo quality of both the front and rear cameras. I've tried adjusting the settings manually and it improves lighting slightly but overall the pictures remain grainy, blurry or too dark to be of any use. Even the stabilization is disappointing because you have to hold really still otherwise the pictures blur easily.

My brother has a Galaxy S7 Edge and in all the same scenarios, when comparing side-by-side it quickly becomes apparent that photos taken on the GS7 in auto mode are much better than my V20 on auto or manual. It seems his cameras capture much more light and produce much better quality images. That said, the daytime photos of the V20 are very good and comparable to the GS7, it's just all other lighting scenarios where the V20 disappoints.

The only leg up that I had was being able to capture wide angle pics which was really great in some situations.

It's also really annoying to have to use manual to capture quality images in many scenarios. I keep having to tell my friends to hang on while I adjust the settings. After doing that a few times they start to get annoyed. (auto just isn't good enough in some lighting like indoors or in the late evening)

I have the 990DS with V10d.

I haven't read this entire thread but maybe I'm just missing something when it comes to the technique and settings to achieve quality pics. Or, is the GS7 just a much better camera overall and I should just accept that?

I'm an LG fan. Had the G3 and then the G4 and was very impressed with the G4 photo quality at the time. I felt like it was on the level of a flagship. With the V20, I feel that its not quite up to scratch. I think the hardware is capable but LG needs to make some software improvements to improve stabilization and low light image processing.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ricohz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ82z1E92NU

https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/5kqeca/the_best_smartphone_cameras_of_2016_are_here/dbpzkmp/

found this searching around

check out the youtube video

it help me cause i had no clue on using the camera
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] il buono:
Low light capabilities

I originally posted these on Reddit, but here it is for those that don't roam those parts. I took these photos during my trip to Mexico this past weekend. All taken in manual mode. Exposure usually varied between 20-30 sec. I only attached a few to this post, but more can be seen in the two imgur links below.

Night Sky/Stars

Well before sunrise
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Byte_76:
I came across a post on Reddit that suggested turning off HDR. That seems to have helped with the grainy effect I was getting in both Auto and Manual modes. (Not sure why it was affecting manual mode)

Previously I had HDR set on Auto and all my low light pictures were quite grainy.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ricohz:
That's where I found the links at Reddit and I also saw those pictures
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pimperish87:
Yesterday's lunch
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dark Jedi:
That video really opened my eyes. Helped me a lot to understand the settings and not much to it really .
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] LuRock:
Beautiful day in South Florida
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Those all look really good.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Is that near the bridge that connects the vennecian with the downtown? :P
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] LuRock:
no it's about 2 bridges north from there facing north. It's called North Bay Village.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] MadMikeSS:
Love the wide angle camera. Key Bank Area for Buffalo Bandits lacrosse on Saturday.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] spiderx_mm:
I've posted these pics in the Review section already. But hell yesss!! this photos belongs here as well.

I took the pics in manual mode, then developed the raw file using SnapSeed. play around with some settings and then finally add my name as watermark.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] egren58:
Selfies with this phone seems to have beauty mode on even though ihave it off..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] tveith:
Just bought the V20 and I've got to say how disappointed I am with the front camera, particularly auto mode. It's almost impossible to take a picture that isn't blurry. The only way to get a decent picture out of this phone is to switch to manual mode and increase shutter speed. Once you toggle between shutter speed and iso, you can capture really decent pictures. Where this causes problems is when you need to snap a picture really quickly and don't have time to adjust settings.

I can't believe that people are so happy with this phone. I thought the camera on the V20 was supposed to be amazing, but so far, I'm extremely disappointed.

Any tips or advice before I return this phone?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zacharee1:
Have you tried the main camera? The front camera isn't meant to be this phone's selling point.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] theleftykid:
A post process of a RAW photo I took on a cloudy day.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rubiicon59:
Fantastic pic!

But where's the fans?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] MadMikeSS:
It was early, they hadn't all arrived yet. :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] huungryshark:
My Roses

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