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[X Style (Pure) General] CZ Eddie:
I used to run a variety CM ROM's on Samsung Galaxy & Note devices. Starting with the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and then every decent device Samsung released until the bootloaders stopped getting cracked.

There was always something that just didn't work right and I'd have random crashes.

But for me it was semi-worth it. I like to tinker and customize a lot.

Fast forward to the last thirteen months with my first non-Samsung since. A Motorola Moto X Pure.

Best damn phone I've ever had.

And there is CM available, but I quickly discovered AOSP ROM's like Dirty Unicorn and Broken OS.

Both these ROM's are FULL of customization not found in Xposed modules, and both ROM's have been 100% reliable.

I may have had one lockup in the last 13 months. And everything from GPS to Bluetooth, etc. have all worked perfectly.

So for me, yes... custom ROM's are more than worth it once you find the right ROM. My phone is heavily customized to my needs and super reliable.

The only thing lacking with MotoX was kernel development. Which I guess is where you start losing some reliability.

But it's also where I'm hoping the Pixel will get some good development and I'm looking forward to it. :good:
[X Style (Pure) General] Nick N:
Non-rooted stock MM has been going great for me lately. Lots of great built in features like Moto actions, etc. I play Pokemon while walking on my breaks at work, and the last few updates forced my hand to go back to stock. I was (am) also a flashoholic, and it was mainly to have custom features and better performance on outdated and mfg abandoned phones. It was also a must for my Kindle Fire. I really don't see myself going away from stock MM (soon to be Nougat) on my MXPE at this point. I still flash ROMs on my G2 and Note 3 though, but barely use them outside the house.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Hmm... I have been on that "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for a while now. After a month started suffering SoD randomly and Play Services has stopped issues. DU 10.6 couldn't maintain GPS lock, but 10.5 was fine, seemed to effect only a handful of devices, lucky me.

Anyway, thanks for your input.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
I also have been a avid user of the "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for many months now with no real issues. By chance have you tried a fresh install again. The latest release was back in late August a 4.9.1 version that made corrections to some issues on the 4.9 release.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Not yet... I have been on 4.9.1 already, and have been working with the devs a bit on it but seems mostly isolated to my device.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
If anything try a fresh install and see if your issues were only from maybe a bad original install. If they show up again then I would say they are isolated to your device.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I'm out of town for the weekend, in a rather rural area, so maybe will try tomorrow evening.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
LMT pie, adaway, naptime, and general tweaking are the only reasons I root on a phone this close to stock android.

I didn't run custom ROMs on this phone until about August of this year. That was when battery life on aicp started to get comparable with stock for me. I can get most of the features I want from gravitybox, but I prefer them baked into the ROM. Xposed always seems a little problematic even when you don't install janky modules. I really like the notification led; missed that when I got this phone. I know we're supposed to use moto display, but I think that makes more sense on amoled than a great big LCD. Never had good luck with lightflow or the led enabler apps, but the custom roms work great. I really like slim recents too. I haven't found any modules that work to put KitKat like recents on M ROMs.
[X Style (Pure) General] SMTB1963:
TruPureXMM + GravityBox

Loved my MXP so much I bought one for my mom who was hating her iPhone5. Kept it stock (for obvious reasons), so I have a good baseline to compare to my MXP running TruPureXMM + GravityBox. I've tried a bunch of ROMS for this phone but I always come back to TruPureXMM + GravityBox. Oh, and Tasker.

There is no way in hell I would go back to stock.
[X Style (Pure) General] richteratmosphere:
I used Cyanogenmod on my HTC Incredible and Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Didn't root or ROM for a while due to using the stock ROM on the 2nd generation Verizon Moto X 2014 and stock Android on the Nexus 5X and 6P. But, I had the itch to unlock the bootloader on my Moto X Pure, due to curiousity, and because it's likely that we will only see one more Nougat update. I tried CM13, but I was getting UI freeze ups and slowdowns on multiple builds, so I tried Dirty Unicorns 10.6, and that has been working fine. I may return to the stock ROM after the Nougat update, but in the meantime, I'm happy experimenting with different ROMs on the Pure.
[X Style (Pure) General] DrunkUncas:
I'd be cool with stock- as long as I could debloat it.

And it was updated fairly quickly.
[X Style (Pure) General] Greatness83:
Stock for this phone is great. Better than most. Only issue really is Moto is so far behind on security updates. They are on what, May I believe? CM13 is Oct.
[X Style (Pure) General] Altomugriento:
Stock here, never a issue. With Nougat in the horizon, a custom ROM is a big NO for me.

Enviado desde mi XT1575 mediante Tapatalk
[X Style (Pure) General] CJ-Wylde:
I would say TruPureX with a few mods is a very solid and stable way to go. I myself am on TurboROM which has ceased current development, but have ZERO issues. AICP's MM build is the most feature filled and works flawlessly aside from one issue I don't have on other ROMs, where my bank app only shows black when using the camera to deposit checks, making AICP unusable for me, but highly recommended for others to try as that's the absolute only issue I could find after a week full of testing (Kind of what I do as a hobby is push ROMs to their limits to find the issues.)

So in short: TruPureXMM, TurboROM, AICP - are all great choices without the negatives associated with many custom ROMs.
[X Style (Pure) General] shayneflashindaily:
Pretty sure we are all here to push the ROMs to he limits lol?
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.

I'm in a limited data area so I haven't downloaded or tried them out yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] TASL:
Running the latest Zephyr after trying AICP and CM14. Uses substratum and SuperSU. Camera recording isn't working with snapdragon camera (FC), google camera (records but doesn't save). Had an android.phone FC but replaced with google phone/contacts and no problems so far. Still need to test speakerphone and bluetooth, but assuming those work as well as 6.0.1 I'm pretty impressed by Birdman.
[X Style (Pure) General] Kir6y:
Any roms that anyone can recommend? CM13 and OrionOS both have very bad stuttering after some time of use. Has anyone tried Pure Nexus or Slim6? Just need a good daily driver that can handle games without heating up so hot, and handle most social apps great...
[X Style (Pure) General] DrunkUncas:
Seriously? We've got like one and a half here.
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
I'm using aicp from mid-August. Everything works well. Performance is consistent. Probably better than stock, but I think gravitybox was what was slowing it down.

Some of the September builds had wakelocks and other problems, and more recently it rolled to 7.0 and it still has some issues.
[X Style (Pure) General] kcipopnevets:
You probably remember me from the Rezound forums, OP. I had a Nexus 7 first and I flashed a ton on that thing. Then I got a Rezound and at the time 4.2.2 was the newest thing out. Sense 3.6 worked poorly so I went to CyanogenMod but I switched ROMs about every week because I, for some reason, was never satisfied!

With my Droid Maxx, I found a Lollipop ROM and kept comfy. MXP though, stock is so perfect and functional and stable that I cannot stay in a custom ROM for more than a day at a time without noticing something going wrong.

Older phones are more susceptible to ROM "trials" only because they are dated I think.
[X Style (Pure) General] Kir6y:
Thanks for the feedback. I just installed Slim6 and all is good so far. If I experience any problems, I will consider giving the one you suggested a try.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I remember... Those were the good, old days. LOL

I actually think I am going back to stock anyway... It seems Moto has done away with MFN online registration and to be part of the "beta" soak tests you have to be logged in to your Moto account on the phone and activate it there. Basically if you're not stock you don't even get invited to the beta anymore, and I want to trial official Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] iks8:
imo no, android gets better and better and also nowadays updates are not a big issue like it was before.
[X Style (Pure) General] Greatness83:
I just want back to stock myself. Stock with systemless root. Its actually not that bad at all. I miss the battery options from CM13 though
[X Style (Pure) General] stratoffies:
For video recording wondershare powercam works..
[X Style (Pure) General] vietkao:
But then Xposed is there :D

I'm on stock myself. Had to done a lot of debloating, tweaking but the performance is great and battery life is above average (I would say 5 hour SOT).
[X Style (Pure) General] marksedge:
Anything running pure Andy is pretty good for me .I haven't thought twice of rooting but I would like some Xposed mods but as far as the moto x is ,Im OK with its performance .I just wished it had better core management stockwise.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I quit flashing custom ROMs on my last two phones: LG G3 and now the MXPE. I rooted my G3 primarily for bloatware removal/disabling with TiBu. Aside from that, the only root functions I have utilized was Tasker and Ad Away. Never really got into Xposed. For my MXPE, I haven't rooted at all. I miss a few Tasker capabilities that need root, but with no unnecessary bloat I just couldn't justify voiding my warranty. For the most part, stock has performed extremely well so I saw no reason to tinker to much.
[X Style (Pure) General] shayneflashindaily:
Root is a must IMO. Stock is junk. My g3 days were OK but much better with AOSiP. I was a moderator back in the day :) Miss those folks
[X Style (Pure) General] CCHIPSS:
I don't recommend custom ROMs on your daily driver, unless there are serious problems with your phone. Now it is different if you are fleshing your old phone for fun. But don't wack your $400+ daily driver for some custom ROM.

Most modern official ROMS are pretty good nowadays. So find out what you are getting out of and what you are getting into before making your decision.

The Moto X Pure comes with a pretty clean OS. There isn't enough bloatware to warrant a ROM flash IMO. I installed Greenfy in my phone and the battery works just fine.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I agree that root is good to have. But with a near vanilla experience, in haven't bothered yet on the MXPE. Everything works. I personally moved away from AOSP ROMs after my HTC Inspire as there always seemed to be at least one unacceptable issue.
[X Style (Pure) General] BrokenWall:
What is this rom that shouldn't be named on XDA?

Also the Moto X series has been the only phone to really push me away from custom roms. I have been very happy with Root for the reasons of Xposed, Greenify, TiBackup, etc

Otherwise I usually roll with the OEM Rom and just add the customizations I need. I use to flash new roms almost daily on my Nexus S but I kind of need a phone that just works and gives me a few customizations
[X Style (Pure) General] jason2678:
I'll give you a hint. It's name is part of your username.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
BrokenOS... but it is kind of taboo to talk about it here, if you want to know more Google it, not hard to find and within a few minutes of reading their FAQ you will likely understand why.

And BTW if anyone is interested, I flashed back to pure stock with a locked bootloader last night... so far no regrets but then again it hasn't been very long.
[X Style (Pure) General] BrokenWall:
Yeah reading some of the FAQs about them they appear to be very High and Mighty and I can see why they wouldn't fit here at XDA. I would probably give their ROM a shot but alot of custom roms loose the features that make the Moto X great. And to be fair the Ambient Display doesn't compete with Moto Display.

I am holding out for 7 or 7.1 since I really don't want to get a new phone as my MXPE still has great battery life and my only issues are:

1) GPS fails and gets wonky at times (reboot fixes it), basically GPS thinks I am 1-2 miles off from where I really am

2) 16GB storage makes apps sometimes hard to update. Google Play Music and some other apps like to cache alot of data which use up all the local storage and make it hard to update apps at times. Everything else gets saved to a 128GB External SD Card

3) Call Quality is bleh at times

4) Sometimes notifications are very quiet or don't notify at all even though its turned up all the way.
[X Style (Pure) General] shayneflashindaily:
Cm13 runs great for me.. No lag.. Everything works for me at least. And battery life is pretty damn good.
[X Style (Pure) General] tazfanatic:
Which build date would you say is the most stable? No major complaints about stock. Only real complaint is the network/blue tooth stack seems to get wonky every now and then. I have to toggle air plane or reboot to fix.. I have been jonesing to root and put CM on this phone. This is the longest (5 months) I have ever had a phone that I haven't rooted and flashed anything. Hell I have run CM on every device since Sammy Galaxy Epic with they keyboard from Sprint.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_infinity:
Anyone who wants a stable rom should try broken os. Its the best in terms of stability
[X Style (Pure) General] shayneflashindaily:
Just try the latesty nightly... I actually started to get lag and some finicking camera problems. So I'm probably going back stock... Can't find a ROM without issues
[X Style (Pure) General] buggerritt:
+1

sent via Moto X Pure

over AT&T's crappy network
[X Style (Pure) General] amaury48:
Where can I Download Broken OS for Clark?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
BrokenOS cannot be posted or linked here... try a Google search for "dysfunctional roms", it will probably turn up what you need to find it. :D
[X Style (Pure) General] unitz0mbie:
broken os doesnt have kcal support, everything else is perfect
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Eh... I never had any trouble with colors or anything, over-rated, unnecessary feature on this device in my opinion.
[X Style (Pure) General] salespalace:
does brokenOS have the memory issue as well where it ram management is aweful like all other roms on this phone?

Also does brokenOS work on the XT1572
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I never had any issues with RAM management on my MXPE, on BrokenOS, DU, or any other ROM... so I am not sure what your talking about.

Try it and see... it is only supported on the G+ group or their official website, there is no support or links available here, even discussing it is kind of taboo... read their faq and see some of their posts and you will understand why. There is quite a, ummm, hatred there for some reason, for example, if you set you back button long press to Kill App (I do this in all custom ROMs) and you use it, the toast message is "#F*CKXDA" without the censoring.
[X Style (Pure) General] salespalace:
THanks, will do.

The ram management is not good at all - this is being nice about it. i open chrome, call someone then go back to the chrome tab after 3-5mins and the page refreshes. now for some reason can't open up images on the main image app, have to go through es file explorer. Not really happy with this phone, but not sure what alternative i can get that is not samsung.
[X Style (Pure) General] fastjohnson:
The original stock rom seems to be the best fit for the MXPE with xposed modifications gravity box and xblast cover most of the basic mods to get the stock rom to the good point. Resuection remix works good for a CM based rom, and CM 14 is working good now to but is def nothing to get excited about after 3 hours of add this add that modify this makes it ok. Wicked roms, I wish they made a run for the MXPE because it's the only run I ran for months and remained stable.
[X Style (Pure) General] kamisan:
Truepure with the latest frankenclark kernel (only stock based roms work with that kernel) and EX kernel manager with fairpark gov settings is pretty dang skippy, broken is stable as all get out, fairpark mod works on it also, exodus rom for clark is nearly as stable , most of them eventually seem to slow up a bit and AICP while working well ran hot, hot hot,

phone is a good phone once set up, exodus has recent updates still on 6.01 not 7 yet but 7 has a ways to go before all the little mods I like are updated to work with it.

the kernel tweaks you can look at the nexus 5x it has the same hardware processor which means the tweaks work. .. not kernel flashing, youll bork your device but things like fairpark, glassfish, etc (kernel tweaks you can load either in init.d exkernel or some other method if you know how to)

broken has alot of scripts to help run smoothly, things left over from the days where you just didnt have eneough mem or processor,, and they still work and either increase battery life or overall smoothness and speed.

if you know what you are doing you can get the scripts out of the frankenclark kernel installer, broken rom and others and mangle your own ... (which is what I did)

have a backup of true, broken and on exodus right now,... all about on par in my opinion
[X Style (Pure) General] TASL:
I can't find a single non-stock based custom rom, that doesn't have the speakerphone echo bug - except Broken, which wifi is broken with the new SuperSU updates.

DU 10.6, RR 5.7.4, any CM13 based rom, Exodus, Orion...(The fluence build.prop stuff isn't a universal solve). I just went through all of the above options available, from August through November. Each one has speakerphone echo.
[X Style (Pure) General] unitz0mbie:
never had issues with orion and idk for me orion runs as fast or faster than broken and battery is better since it doesnt use input boost
[X Style (Pure) General] bigtimejdub:
I've been on Exodus for the last couple of weeks as I couldn't get Substratum to work properly on stock. It seems to be very stable, has nice features, and no need to reboot after applying substratum themes. I'm pretty happy with it. I don't use speakerphone much so wasn't aware of that issue.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
Try DU 10.5, been using with this and Broken, no issue on either. That speakerphone echo is a known issue on CM based roms, not so much a headache on AOSP based roms.
[X Style (Pure) General] TASL:
Thanks Jimi Mack, switched back to DU 10.5. Only thing its missing is CPU hotplugging and substratum - definitely worth the stability/lack of bugs.

From the Slim6 thread, they say the next build will solve speakerphone... But Slim6 also lacks hotplugging. Either way, DU 10.5 (release) is my DD and backup going forward.

For BrokenOS (the last build in August), I kept losing WiFi when SuperSU updated the binary. Did you get that problem?
[X Style (Pure) General] baii:
Went back to latest stock from trupure and few days of broken. Stock battery life seen to be the best, purely judging from wifi sot. Hitting 6+ hourish browsing mainly with glass fish. Other ROM seem to top out at 5. Maybe when i used trupure, gravity box is killing some battery ,idk.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
More than welcome, glad you found a DD. No I never had WiFi issues with Broken, that has always been rock solid for me. I am normally flip flopping between DU and Broken and every once in a while trying another rom again to if it has improved but always find myself back to either of these two.
[X Style (Pure) General] lloyd094:
Speaking of DU, is there a reason why the DU thread is locked? Will there be a new version eventually, or have they quit for Clark?
[X Style (Pure) General] chris_dis:
They are working on DU11, go to their Google+ page. They post updates there
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
I would assume they they stopped dealing with XDA as many developers have.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
What do you mean? Devs are not on the same page with XDA or something?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jimi Mack:
Just some Devs are breaking away from XDA and their house rules. Search the Google+ pages and you can find many roms.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
Ah, gotcha. They just feeling things are a bit too restrictive?
[X Style (Pure) General] Adam_Hawk:
I've been on this boat for some time, too. Even before discovering XDA. HTC Droid Eris and original Moto Droid. :)

And I've been asking myself this same question. More and more.

I concur on this part too.

The only reason I've been trying to get a custom ROM on my Clark is the security updates (Lenovo is still on May).

But the fact that every ROM I tried experiences some kind of issue, maybe minor for some but critical for me, turned me back to stock.

I really (*really*) need to have Android Pay. I use the damn thing multiple times a day. Also, reliable Bluetooth, Android Wear, and (also critical) WiFi calling from Verizon (or Advanced Calling, or whatever the correct name is).

The developers have all my respect. Being a developer (in a different area) allow me to realize the time and effort put into coding, debugging and building. And I feel the whole Android community owes them a lot. The code is enriched not only by the commits of the Google developers, but by every commit from developers working on these still unsupported devices.

With that said, I wave adieau to the custom ROMs on the Clark.
[X Style (Pure) General] :
So far I'm not interested in trying any ROMs. I'm just rooted, xposed and gravity box. Running brilliantly. Don't need any more than that.
[X Style (Pure) General] bigtimejdub:
Very much agreed about the being a developer part. I'd love to spend more time learning Android development, but my day job / family / house keeps me beyond busy.
[X Style (Pure) General] Greatness83:
Its definitely nice to have a custom rom for the security updates. Its ridiculous that the stock is sooooo far behind
[X Style (Pure) General] unitz0mbie:
agreed, at least we know soon enough we are getting nougat. maybe thats why the skipped out on the security update
[LeEco Le Pro3 Questions & Answers] elkatronix:
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[LeEco Le Pro3 Questions & Answers] meangreenie:
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[LeEco Le Pro3 Questions & Answers] elkatronix:
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