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[LG V20 Questions & Answers] chanukya:
It's good but returning mine..

So I got the ATT version on Monday and am planning to return it soon. I feel really bad about it because LG really ticked all the boxes with this one – removable battery, rugged construction, and latest android. My reasons are driven by what I currently have and what’s coming down the pipe in a few months.

I currently have a S7E US version unlocked, so works with Verizon also and that’s a big plus in case I decide to switch. I’ve had an iphone 6s Plus for the last year and really enjoyed the flexibility of switching carriers if I felt like it. I’m finding it pretty difficult to get back to a carrier locked phone

V20 low light camera is pretty average. Wide angle is great, but you have a fish eye effect that I’m not a big fan of.

I prefer the S7E screen to the V20, maybe it’s a personal choice. ..

The headphones and the DAC are very nice, but for the 1hr of music that I listen to in my car, PowerAmp and my $20 skullcandy headphones would work well enough. Plus I don't have very high audio quality files where the DAC would make a difference.

I checked the battery heat, it’s no warmer or cooler than the S7E under load.

Most importantly, I don’t see myself keeping this phone for 2 years. The S8 will be out in 4 months with a dual camera setup and many of the features in the LG. I know most people are feeling burnt by Samsung after the Note 7, but these folks will be the first in line when the Note 8 comes along (if Sammy can demonstrate with the S8 that phones will not burn up again). So at best this is a stopgap for a year…

And for those of us who switch back and forth between iOS and Android, the iPhone 8 next year is rumored to be a serious upgrade and is worth checking out..

I guess there was no ‘wow ‘factor for me that was worth moving from an unlocked S7E. Maybe I was never the target audience for this phone, but it was definitely worth checking out and I’m glad I did.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
Galaxy S devices are too small for me, so I have a year to wait for note 8. A lot of people say it's only .2" smaller, but I used the LG G3 for a week after the N7 debacle and that little bit make a big difference for me.

That's disappointing that the low light pics aren't good. But I'm sure it's better than the N4 I'm still using. I skipped the N5 because of the sealed battery. BTW they do have unlocked versions of the V20 that will work with all carriers. B&H and newegg I know are selling them for $799, which is better than AT&T's $839 ripoff.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] cam1pbell:
I was a note 7 user myself and I'm a little disappointed that there's no LED light notification
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] ArborRes:
I don't think your statement has any basis.

I used Note 7 for a month and now V-20 for a few days.

I don't see any noticeable difference to say it's bad. It's a good camera, aided by not only OIS but also EIS.

In fact, its performance is considered better than Google's new Pixel.

http://androidforums.com/threads/lg-v20-beats-the-pixel-in-low-light-camera-performance.1084384/
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mrhizzo:
All Samsung phones have hiccups. If you are tolerant, it's a different history.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] DOTC:
Holy crap..I'm not sure what that did, but I've had the auto off before and at max brightness and it looked kinda washed out. Leaving auto enabled and clicking the button to 90% made a WORLD of difference. Looks like a brand new screen. Wow.. this is nuts.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
I'm disappointed in the lack of color choice at T-Mobile. The Titan gray is simply ugly.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] chanukya:
That was my first choice, however that version is missing bands 29 and 30 for ATT... so those of us on Att are forced to buy branded.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
I sent LG an email months ago telling them they need to bring the pink version here and that I'll personally buy 3. They said it's not decided yet, which was B.S.

The rep from LG was at the Tmo when I was there. I lit him up about that. I told him my wife and kids wanted the pink. He said they offered pink in the G5 and it didn't sell well. I said the G5 didn't sell well in any color. He said his point.

Crap I never saw that. How important are those two bands?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] captaincanada84:
I've had mine for a few days now. Honestly, I have no complaints about the phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] leyvatron:
They need to let us adjust the display colors. Its too "cool" for me.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] spexwood:
I've only had the V20 for a few hours now and came straight from the Note7.

Here are my disappointments, which I may or may not get used to after a while.

1) The phone is a little harder to hold in one hand than the Note7.

2) No Led notification. I HIGHLY doubt I'll ever get used to this one. I get work texts all the time, and if my phone is sitting somewhere across the room, and I get a message and don't hear it, who knows how long it'll be before I notice it. The second screen is nice, but useless for across-the-room notifications.

Edit: So there is a way to make the camera flash blink when you get notifications. This kind of acts like an LED notification light on steroids. Lol

3) I miss the edge screen favorite apps pullout. I found an app that'll work on any phone though, so I'm content for the most part. I still felt I should mention it though.

4) The power button/fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone is a bit odd when not used to it, but makes sense on paper. I DO think I'd get used to this though.

5) I can't get the screen shrink thing to work. You should be able to swipe across the back, home, and recent buttons and the screen should shrink for one handed operation. For whatever, this isn't working for me even though it's eenabled

Update: Still can't get!it to work. People!here on XDA keep telling me how to do it, but I'm already doing what they're telling me. I'm starting to wonder if there's a big somewhere in the software. Its either ATT phone only, or the bug only occurs if the mini screen thing is on with some other unknown settings at the same time.

6) The lack of a smart stay feature stumps me. I had a G Pro from LG before switching over to the Samsung Note 4, and even that phone had smart stay.

(Smart Stay= the thing that keeps the screen on while you're looking at it)

Now a few positives over the Note7.

1) The phone feels far less slippery than the Note7. That's really good for me!

2) The phone definitely feels far tougher. I dropped my first Note7 (days before I did the first recall), and the area by the front camera cracked. The V20 feels like it can take a fair amount of accidental abuse with little to no damage.

3) Autocorrect actually WORKS!

Hallelujah! The autocorrect on the Note7 was pretty much USELESS!

4) I do like the knock on and off features. It means that the back power button is unnecessary if your phone is on a table or something. Great feature!

Edit:

5) Holy cow is the music amazing! And I haven't even tried wired headphones yet! Bluetooth streaming on its own sounds far superior than my Note7 did! I paor my phone with my car and listen to music. I'm using the exact same player, car, settings, etc as with my Note7 (only difference is the phone used, obviously), and the music sounds much crisper and clearer! Bravo!

FYI:

I can't comment on battery life yet since I've only had the V20 for a few hours. My Note7 usually ended the day at around 40-50%. If the V20 gets the same battery life for me, then I'll be perfectly happy. If I get better battery life, then that'll be even greater!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] ArborRes:
Have you tried the "Comfort View" option in the setting? If you scroll down the notification area twice you will see that option. I use that option at all times for the same reason. I like warmer display than the default colder display tone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] leyvatron:
I did and felt the whites looked a bit orange. Guess I'll try it for a bit and see.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] evo4g63t:
Unfortunately because LG doesn't use AMOLED the chances are slim it'll last longer than the note 7. The thing about AMOLED is parts of the screen producing black can literally be turned off saving tons of battery.

I am looking forward to reports of battery life on the v20 because the v10 was pretty terrible in this regard (the phone on factory battery was pretty much dead by the end of the day) fortunately if there is poor battery life LG is intelligent enough to keep removable batteries so battery packs work well (I got one for the v10).

The v20 seems like its going to be more successful than the v10 so its highly likely it'll receive aftermarket batteries with higher capacities.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
My battery has been good so far, but inconclusive til I do some real life rundowns on workdays and the weekend. I do miss swipe to screenshot. A LOT! DAC is superb.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
With Nougat being bright colors and whites everywhere...not so much.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] suprap7:
That's funny..ive had the exact oposite thought. I was less then impressed with my S7 camera in low light. I have found for me, the V20 takes better low light photos
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Tuffcheez:
Yes, I'm disappointed they're not selling in the UK!!!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] evo4g63t:
Of the phones I've had LG definitely puts excellent quality cameras on their devices in comparison.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] AkaD187:
Vulkan

I'm disappointed that Vulkan graphics aren't working on the phone as of yet. Seems only Samsung and Nexus phones are using it even though the V20 has the hardware and Nougat.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] heldc:
Just the microsd placement, so far

I've had mine about an hour, and so far the only disappointment for me is the placement of the microsd slot-you have to remove the battery to insert or remove a memory card.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Nick281051:
No you don't
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] heldc:
Oh, awesome! It looked the same as others I've had where you did, that millimeter of extra space wasn't obvious. Thanks!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Nick281051:
No problem lol I had to switch my sd card back and forth while setting it up so I noticed that it slid in and out without the need to remove the battery
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Kief_haring:
Only thing is the bloatware... I can't stand all of this crap that carriers think is cool to inundate our phones with. Then to not make it easy to uninstall the stuff is annoying to say the least. I can't even disable the T-Mobile apps and DeBloatware says my device is blocked so those routes aren't even options to remove the crap I don't want... I miss stock Android very much.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] PunishedSnake:
Keyboard is meh but google keyboard solved that
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] leyvatron:
I usually download the google keyboard to all my phones, but I feel the lg keyboard is similar. The spacebar scroll is a bit slower, but that's okay.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] YellowGTO:
What is the 200 dollar promo?

The most disappointing aspects of this phone (Die hard note fan) 500nit display vs the Note 7s 1000+ (http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...y-record-high-max-brightness-nearly-1050nits/). Smart stay to keep the screen on while reading, the IP 68 rating, notification light, Iphone launcher, haptic buttons at the bottom, full screen always on display and secure folder.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] douger1957:
It's better than needing a tool to access it like a Note 7.

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Yeah. It's not a Samsung. I knew it wasn't a Samsung when I bought it and I knew what the specs were.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] johner13:
Had this phone since the 17th coming from a note 7 and I love it. Just wish the battery was a tiny bit bigger - although I'm getting between 5.5 and 6.5 hours SOT. Oh and anyone know how to mute group convos??
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Not to mention the note7 was an expensive grenade that didn't come with a pin.

And wtf do you need 1050nits for on a mobile display? Shoot, that might be the reason the note7 was a grenade with pin missing. Running that high brightness off a battery? Explains a lot.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] EcPercy:
Other than the fact that I bought the Korean model and it has some things with Korean text (like the dialer and some aspects of the UI) I am very happy with the phone. I am coming from an LG G3.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
Same here. Just got my v20 from Sprint store today...finally...Happy as a clam with unrooted stock, coming from a rooted-ROM'd to snot Nexus 6 Shamu.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Semantics:
Always been an LG fan. Wasn't buying the gimmicky G5 so got an S7 Edge instead. I had the V10 and I loved it, but I think that I have gotten too used to the S7 Edge. The original plan was to keep the V20 and give my wife the S7 Edge, but I think I'm going to give her the V20 to replace her LG G3. The phone is just massive. I don't hate it by any means, the battery has been better than the S7 Edge, but I just can't get used to the size and I've been testing it for 3 days now. I'm not saying that the phone isn't great, but I think for me, it's just not the right fit.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
Weird. I've never had to charge the phone except overnight. Plus with quick charge... It doesn't matter that much, right? Best phone I've ever used (including the Note 7).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] adolfo778:
Anyone else feel like the Touchscreen isn't as responsive as other phones? Having trouble typing words correctly and I'm using the same keyboard as my other phones
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
No issues here. Screen digitizers can vary in accuracy a bit. What keyboard? I found the lg one cumbersome compared to Google's.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] suprap7:
I have had issues typing fast on the lg keyboard to...keeps throwing me off. I chalked it up to using a different setup.

I literally just switched to google keyboard a few minutes ago and my typing already seems to have gotten better...so we will see how it goes using this.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] iLLxLBPSTi:
So far...i'm pretty impressed..if anything, the only noticeable thing is the display vs my old NOTE 7s AMOLED

The UI isnt bad at all...took some getting use to but not bad...I find it running a lot smoother than my NOTE 7, also switching between some apps and even app loading seems a bit faster than my N7...battery life isnt as good...I would normally come home after work with my N7 with about 70% left..with my V20, its anywhere from 40-50%...speaker sound great...keyboard, I can type faster with this one and make less mistakes than my N7...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Araltd:
Lol, but it's a better fit for your wife!? LMAO.... Sorry that was so funny to me. No disrespect intended.

Sent from my Note 6
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
I thought the same thing!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] jinkerz9430:
Not the only one LOL!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Semantics:
She takes what I give her. And I'm not just saying its not a good fit due to the size alone. I prefer the S7 Edge at this time is all. I loved the V10 there is nothing here that makes me think wow, I need to keep this phone. Its a fine phone but not an upgrade from what I'm coming from. Her G3 needed an upgrade so I always get a new phone and give her my old one. Which is never really old. One of the perks of paying the bill I guess.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] asolman:
I enjoy the phone but don't think its as good overall as the note 7.

I am disappointed that the audio DAC only works with a wired headphone connection.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] HikariNoKitsune:
I hate not having a notification LED... its something every phone should just freaking HAVE...

I DON'T CARE if the second screen 'shows notifications'... what flipping use is that if the screen is too dark to SEE the notifications?!

I also hate the vibration/sound settings... if you put the phone on 'vibrate' it just MUTES all notifications... no vibration happens at all!

The notification sounds are variable as well. Sometimes they're loud, other times they're so quiet you only noticed something was going on because the cat looked over at the phone...

IDK what LG was thinking when it came to implementing a 'second screen'... but it seriously could have been ALOT better than what we all got... the potential that screen has is mind blowing! But its only really 'good' if LG gave us the means to utilize it properly... which they didn't... I don't care about having some text at the top... I do care that I have instant access to my flash light toggle. I do care about being able to see notifications when they come in... oh wait, you can't unless you're actively using the phone, cause, ya know... the screens so dim when the main screen is turned off, that you can't even tell the second screen is on!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
In expressing that disappointment you admit you don't understand how a DAC works...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] cam1pbell:
You took the words out of my mouth. No Led. I was a note 7 user and I gave my note 4 to my wife so I feel like I was forced into buying this phone. Now don't get me wrong this is a nice phone it's just miss some important options. Maybe LG can come up with a better 2nd screen notification. Like colored blinking icon or something like that
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] HikariNoKitsune:
I'm in the exact same boat. I bought the Note 7. Was awesome for the first week, then I started to notice that it was garbage. It lagged like crazy, the S Pen almost never worked (would jitter and fail to register taps), and was hard to type one handed. I had to wait 4 weeks for my replacement Note 7, and when I got it, it was SO much better. S Pen worked flawlessly, almost zero lag, and alot less 'edge touches' when typing one handed. I fell back in love with the phone.

Then they recalled it again.. and I just wanted to slam my head on the desk. When I was looking up phones to replace it with, I was dead set on the Pixel XL. But wouldn't you know it? You have to have one insane credit score to get the Pixel on a payment plan, and I refuse to use Verizon after the bs they pulled with my family. So I was stuck unable to buy it. So I basically had to 'settle' for the V20... I hyped myself up with it thinking the camera would be good and the second screen would be awesome. I thought I'd finally have a phone that'd use the Tone Platinum to its fullest ability with the awesome AptX HD codec thing. But out of everything I can complain about, out of everything there could be to 'not like' about the V20.... its the way the notifications are implemented that drives me INSANE.... I'm honestly debating just selling the phone, and saving up another 200 dollars JUST so I can try to buy the Pixel outright...

I never thought that the lack of a tiny LED would drive me so crazy. But I guess its coupled with the fact that notifications don't vibrate either when you have the sound profile set to 'vibrate'...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Drey070:
You trade in a 4G phone and get $200 for it when buying the V20. From T-Mobile not sure about other carriers. I got 26$ for an ATT S4 , now waiting for the rest which they said should be in about 2 billing cycles. Just waiting game now.

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/lg-v20-pre-sale.htm
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] leyvatron:
My phone is 90% on the vibrate profile, and everything works fine. Wonder what the issue is with yours. I would be angry if my vibrations didn't work because I have been using my phones on vibration for years. One phone that had terrible vibration issues was the nexus 6p. I missed so many emails, texts, and phone calls due to its weak motor.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] suprap7:
Wait...are you saying for example my screen might be more delayed then yours??

Is there a way to test this so if mine does not meet the standard I can work towards an exchange? Obviously like everyone else, I want to make sure I have what I'm supposed to.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] haziago:
On AT&T here.

Really only a couple gripes, otherwise it is hands down the best phone on the market IMO.

No LED light. Minor gripe but with nearly every android phone having it it takes some getting used to. The second screen is vastly superior anyway imo.

The fact that the System UI Tuner access is disabled and that there is no other way to disable JUST peeking/heads up notifications without it is the most infuriating thing. I know this isn't a LG V20 only problem but I was hoping since it was coming with 7.0 that there would be some way. Nope. The hell of dealing with peeking/heads up notifications continues. Headsoff app is also no compatible currently. Silenced notifications is not a solution either because having no sound/vibration on notification is almost as useless as the peeking notifications. If this was fixed the no LED light wouldn't be an issue at all.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
Actually most phones not Samsung do not have an led notification light... Not that is enabled sans root. Google has wanted it gone for a while
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] alexsoin:
I'm running Sprint's V20 extensively for the last 3 days. I ditched old but good Note 4 N910C. To say briefly V20 superseded my expectations, it's blazing fast, it's basically clean Nougat is amazing, build quality is top notch, the camera is great and SOUND! Man, oh man, V20 is a new king of headphone jack! It has powered my Shure SRH840 like a charm, I don't think I even need VyperMod, something that Note 4's Wolfson chip just couldn't do at all! There's just couple things which potential buyers should consider: lack of any dust or moisture protection whatsoever, the tiny screen just gotta be OLED coz it bleeds light and it's kinda annoying watching dark scenes in some videos or games, ditching notification light is something which takes time to get used to after several Sammys in a row (difficult to see missed calls or other stuff) from some distance, very curved glass on all 4 edges in a halo disaster and a no-no for temp glass :'((( and imo LG could've done better job in making V20 slightly smaller. I guess that's about it!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] haziago:
Pixel does. Motorola does. LG has. Nexus does. HTC does. All without root. I challenge you to find more Android models that don't have LED than that do.

Also it's not the main gripe. Peeking and no System UI Tuner are.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
And how many of those required root and a patched kernel and lightflow to make the LED work?

all of the Google devices through Marshmallow

Android.

I think Nougat might have added an unrooted stock LED toggle back for 5X at least.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] bishmaster5000:
Pretty much what other people have said. The LCD screen looks pretty weak compared to a AMOLED, colors are washed out, viewing angle is not good, some light bleed from the 2nd screen, and the blacks are gray looking. That being said this is one of the best LCD's I've seen on a phone. It's very sharp and easy to read in sunlight. The lack of notification LED is frustrating. I'm sure I'll get used to it but right now it's annoying to have to get so close to the phone to find out if I have a notification. Pairing with a smartwatch really helps though so this is far from a deal breaker. Another flaw the smartwatch really helps cover: third party apps do not vibrate the phone on silent, but at least my watch still vibrates.

I find the fingerprint scanner gives me a lot of false scans, this could be the way I'm gripping it as I'm still trying to get used to not being able to see where to put my finger. I also wish this phone had Qi charging.

The audio quality is fantastic. I'm blown away by how much better my Shure SE215's sound even just streaming paid Pandora (only 192kbps I believe). This isn't a gripe, just a compliment sandwich :) I think for the price (after the $200 promotion) it's really hard to beat this phone. I'm actually quite impressed with how far LG has come.