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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheJesus:
I only emailed about my variant, but I assume if they have those contact pins around the back they will support wireless charging. The only one that may be different is the AT&T which probably only does PowerMat because they invested too much into that standard to ever give it up, lol.

This one doesn't either. You will have to replace the back with something that isn't metal (as the email suggests, their Quick Circle case). However, Qualcomm has had WiPower for years that supports wireless charging through metal phones, but no one has ever used it for some reason...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElBeaner:
Because it's it's own standard and doesn't support Qi or PMA so that would mean people would have to buy a whole new charging pad.

The majority of manufacturers that enable wireless charging are Qi standard (Samsung supports both Qi and Powermat). If Qualcomm could somehow get iPhone to incorporate WiPower then it would basically destroy Qi/PMA overnight and Android OEM's would switch at that point.

Right now it's the whole Beta/VHS battle (if you're that old to remember), Laser Disc vs DVD (more of a late 90's battle) or most recently HDDVD vs Bluray battle thing. In the end one format will win and everyone will switch to it (not always for the best though). HDDVD was a cheaper better format but Bluray at the time offered more storage capacity and was "more secure" (even though the DRM has been stripped/broken on bluray).

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/this-wireless-charging-technology-works-with-metal-phones/
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] leyvatron:
Can individuals who own a LG V20 post their carrier and if they have the pins near the battery.

Im hoping the Verizon variant has the pins for wireless charging.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
The T-Mobile variant does not.

There's a small gap in the area where the pins would be, but, it doesn't look like anything that could accommodate wireless charging.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to negate any posts that point in the other direction, just posting my observations on my TMOUS LG V20.

To the contrary, I hope that somehow, wireless charging can be achieved (other than the stickers that plug into the USB port).

If an OEM LG V20 Charging Case or, battery cover becomes available, I'll order one (or both) & report my findings here.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrwingate6:
I don't care for wireless charging. Its pointless to me. I like using my phone while it's charging
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheJesus:
There are 10 pins all the way around the back of the T-Mobile phone that are currently insulated from touching the metal back cover, that is what I asked about in the email to LG. They said they're used for wireless charging, maybe not all of them, but some.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I see those as well, glad to hear they are intended for wireless charging.

I do have an OEM Licensed (VOIA) Quick View Case on the way, from S. Korea , should be arriving any day now, left Seoul on 10/19/19.

With any luck, this is the one that has wireless charging on-board.....
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheJesus:
They said it was the Quick Circle, but who knows, hah.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Here's what's on the way:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-V...hash=item43f6f2e3a9:m:mcEPNP_kAW9TSuqvpAkJ0Cw
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheJesus:
Nah, that doesn't replace the back cover and it doesn't plug in at the bottom so I can't imagine it supporting Qi. They probably would've explicitly stated it did wireless charging.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] 12iVaL116:
i don't know if they are for wireless charging but there are 10 insulated pins around the back of the Verizon one too like what the op was describing.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] DVS_Sokar:
Here is a picture of my T-Mobile V-20 with the back off. The 2 pins in the upper right are for NFC.

[IMG="T-Mobile LG V20 back no cover"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/9/1/6/6/8/5/File_000.jpg?key=Pe1ZR98R7IEpjyH_jKV8QQ&ts=1477504546[/IMG]
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] spexwood:
My ATT version has those too, but I'm pretty sure they're some sort of snap for the back cover. Lay your cover next to your phone (phone with screen facing down, and cover with inside facing up), and you'll see some little squares on the cover that line up perfectly with those copper/gold pins on the phone.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] chazglenn3:
Like mentioned above, those pins go to the NFC antenna that is mounted around the camera cutout in the back cover.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
You are indeed correct regarding the lack of wireless charging support with the VOIA Case (not my video,but,it shows all the deets of the case)

That feature aside,if you're a fan of this style of case,it has a great fit,can be used with or without the metal backing,a nice feature in of itself if you want to use one of the QI Charging stickers that plug into the USB Port:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnB2gsR9XYI
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheJesus:
Since people don't seem to understand what pins we're discussing, I have circled the 10 of them here... They are not the two near the camera for NFC.

[IMG="V20 Pins"]http://i.imgur.com/CRVM5Xw.jpg[/IMG]
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Agreed! :P I feel like wireless charging takes forever, and if your life is like mine that 1 hour is like 1 minute (sometimes) well.... you figure you dont have all day to wait for it to reach the 100. And also to be constantly removing the device and putting it back well.. it makes it last even more :eek: .

EDIT

: On the other hand, it is good to have variation. Maybe someday it wakes up my interest to buy one of those wireless charging docks. After all, that's why i currently love more lg than samsung, because it has more variation (LOVE MY IR BLASTER) !! :cool:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dfin13:
Wireless charging isn't really meant to be used in the same way you'd use regular charging, which is why the slow charging isn't really meaningful. I have a cradle on my nightstand -- I set it on there at night, and in the morning, it's charged. If for some reason I need to roll over and check my phone, I just lift it off, look at it, and set it back on, no jerking the cable out by accident, or fiddling around in the dark to plug it back in. I have another cradle at work, and it sits right under my monitor, propping up my phone at a good viewing angle, keeping it charged all day. If I need a quick charge, I've got the Samsung charger in my living room.

So it's not something I can't live without, but the lack of wireless charging would definitely steer me towards a different phone.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
As i said before, im not against it, i might be buying one if the interest awakew within me. However, tell me one thing that wireless charging does better thsn chsrging with wire? The v20 port keeps the wire ver y stsble inside the port and it requieres a fair amount of pressure to pull it out (with fair i mean it wouldnt accidentally unplug unless you want to. ). A USB cable is 1 piece. If you want to add the power adapter it wouñd be two. In contraste, a wireleds chsrging requieres the a dock and a cable and maybe also a power adapter (which means more to carry) and if you forget one of thode things, well, it becomes pretty useless since it cannot work without having to rely on something else.

Sorry for the bad typing. Im using a phone that is not mine and the keyboard has automátic correction on lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Chalk this one up to " I'd rather have it & not need it......"

It's not an either/or vs wired charging, the nightstand use is a perfect example of convenience.

Same thing for those that are in & out of their office several times a day, just drop & charge, & grab & go......
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
MY CYBERBROTHER! LOL! yes, that's why i said it is not that i m against it because i might buy it ( it is better to have options than to not have it) :cool::good: By the way, did you read the thread i made 3 days ago?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I'll look for the thread, just catching on to the new user name.....

....... Guessing the OG JG served you with a cease & desist order.. ;) :laugh:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dfin13:
Well my wireless docks never leave my work or my bedside, so the extra piece isn't a big deal to me. It is not the only way I charge -- downstairs, I have my Samsung fast charger that I use during the day -- it is just a convenience that I've come to enjoy. My wife, on the other hand, can live without it, so when we had to replace her Nexus 5 and I bemoaned the lack of affordable phones with wireless charging, she said she didn't care, she just needed a phone! :) To each their own, I just really like having the option and I can't understand why a premium phone like this would omit it. If it can be added via a new back without having that wire running to the port, then that'd be awesome.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
LOL yeah, i figure i might change name to an alias since everybody uses alias... DUDE! , TMOBILE had a mess in my account, and it is unbelievably uncoordinated from one to another department. The last one was that the guy who sent me the shipping label lied to me. He would have kept the phone and would have never sent me the new one because it was never written on the system. The supervisor had to fix EVERYBODY's mess (of every agent i spoke too, each one made a mess on their own). :eek:

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I completely get that. :good:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FJ40dan:
I had a circle case for my g3 and loved it. ordered one from ebay for this phone but it does not have the quick charge : (
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] railshot:
What's stopping them from making either a plastic back panel or a metal one with plastic window for the coil?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Was the case you bought for the V20 an OEM LG Accessory,or,a 3rd party manufacturer?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] FJ40dan:
VOIA LG V20 Quick window PU Cover Flip Case from ebay, non charging and 4 weeks shipping : (

One on the way in about 3 weeks and will post a review.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/VOIA-LG-V20-Q...se-5-colors-for-F800-/252584697267?nav=SEARCH
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I've got this case as well, & yes, it doesn't support wireless charging.

Another member posted that there's another OEM Case that has the round window, instead of the slot for the 2nd display, that supports wireless charging.

Haven't seen one myself, but, if they're being manufactured, it's only a matter of time before we see them turning up on e-Bay/Amazon/etc.....
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] easyguy:
cannot wait. Tired of plugging me phone in when I want a charge. I have a few wireless chargers sitting on my desks that is not being used. Cannot wait for the wireless charging back plate. I dont care if its plastic, I have a case anyway, who care what it looks like.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I wouldn't get my hopes up until they actually start showing up on e-Bay & the like.

Not to be a Debbie Downer,but,ouside of reports of seeing such in LG's home market on TV ads,no one has seen anything that supports wireless charging,less the generic wireless charging stickers that plug into the USB port. Nothing on e-Bay/Amazon/You-Tube/etc..........

I'm all for wireless charging,Samsung has nailed it down,works quite well if implemented correctly,but,JMHO here,even if there is indeed an OEM wireless charging case/cover available,one would think LG would be pushing it vs having the metal battery cover.

That tells me,if it even exists,it probably pales in comparison to Samsung's wireless charging speeds/reliability.

I had the OEM wireless charging cover for the V10 & while it did indeed work,the expense of having it imported was hardly worth it,charging was slow & unless you placed a fan near the phone while charging,the phone heated up too much,which in turn slowed things down even more,in a continous loop of heating/slowing down/wash-rinse-repeat....................................

This announcement of a high-speed wireless charging pad looks promising:

http://www.lginnotek.com/community/news_view.jsp?pageNum=1&seq=628

Looking forward to this,but,just from the wording in the press release,sounds as if there's nothing in LG's current line-up to support this fast wireless charging,perhaps starting with the G6 or,the V30.

My money says LG skipped (real) wireless charging on the V20,as they did with the G5,with next year as the target.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] recDNA:
Well I hope OEM wireless charging option does surface. I use a case so I couldn't care less about what material the back is made of... In fact I prefer plastic. I'll never understand why some people think plastic is "cheap" looking. The cases are all made of plastic anyway. If you're out to impress people you're not buying an LG anyway.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I couldn't agree more, waaaaay too much is made of the glass/metal construction.

Neither are particularly practical & it's not as if other more durable materials can't be used & look nice.

For years, as a Note owner/user, I wondered why Samsung hasn't made an "Active" version.

The V10 was a step in the right direction, & while the V20 is an awesome phone, the metal construction was never a factor in my decision to get this phone.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlknez:
There are only 4 reasons to get this phone:

1. Removable Battery

2. Removable Storage

3. Infrared Blaster

4. High-End DAC

The 4th and best reason has been hobbled by LG. You are NOT able to fully utilize the ES9218 DAC currently and they will not comment on the issue.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
BINGO, we have a winner!

Wireless Charging would be icing on the cake.

I'll take it if LG does indeed have OEM accessories to enable it, otherwise, I'm OK without, especially with the removable battery.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlknez:
Plenty of other, less expensive, phones have wireless charging. That is not a unique feature. The DAC will not be enabled by some "accessory". There is a major firmware flaw that they are not addressing!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] railshot:
Yep, that always puzzled me. I've heard of people who carry their phones naked (mostly tech journalists), but I have yet to see one in real life. Everyone I know uses some sort of a case that covers everything but the front of the phone. But god forbid somebody releases a phone with plastic back in 2016. Plastic frame is a deth sentence. It will be destroyed in all reviews. Because Apple does it, it must be good. And because for the 5 minutes you handle your new phone before forever putting it in a case, metal and glass feel more "premium" than plastic does. The facts that the reception is worse, your phone's life is tied to the life of it's battery, and you can forget about wireless charging, all these things are somehow secondary and a lot less important that the look and feel of the back of the phone.

But that's what the buyers want, and LG V20 may be the last smartphone with removable back.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
Welcome to America.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I went ahead & ordered this QI Charging sticker from e-Bay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-1A-Ultra...hash=item3acf089781:m:mBgylBryBMhZ4Vk_-Lvxwtw

I chose the Huawei Nexux 6P option,as it closely matches the V20's overall dimensions,should be a good fit.

ETA is 11/9/16,I'll test this w/the Samsung fast wireless charging dock,using a fan to keep things cool (I do this when charging all my devices,whether wireless or not,including my spare battery kits).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] spexwood:
Those were the pins I was talking about when I said that if you lay the back cover next to it, you'll see some spots on the cover that line up perfectly with those pins. I said they may be something related to attaching the back cover to the phone, but I was told they were for NFC. I knew they weren't, but didn't want to get into an argument here, so I never replied.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] bishmaster5000:
Really you've never seen someone using a phone without a case? I almost never use a case and I've seen other people doing the same, not everyone is clumsy. I had a clear case on my Note 7 for a week or two, but I like the feel of case-less so much better. Been 99% case-less since my Galaxy S1 and I've never shattered a screen or broken a phone.

Personally I don't really care if it's metal or plastic or glass, as long as it doesn't look terrible (ahem Pixel). I'd gladly sacrifice metal for Qi charging again, it worked so well on my Note 7. Plop the phone on my Qi charger next to my bed every night, so much easier than fumbling with a plug. QC on this V20 is pretty nice though, can pretty much fully charge it from dead while I settle down for the night
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] azumandias:
I agree with the choice of case material. What I don't get is who decides that phones can't be slightly thicker to allow for a full 2-day charge. Sure it's not the "world's thinnest" but the most stunning phone in the world is useless if it can't turn on. I'm not talking Zero Lemon size but seriously, use another 5mm and give us a few more hours of use. Especially if you are going to have a sealed phone. Make it a little heavier, a little thicker. It will still be more sleek and lighter than anything from 5 years ago. Sorry for the rant, this has bugged me for a while. Especially since the race to thinner only means worse battery life ahead (thought thankfully it seems we may have reached a plateau on that front).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pick_A_Name:
I would add the second screen to this list. While the N7's screen was beautiful, I hated the edge part. If you swiped the edge, the app list etc took over the whole screen. The V20's second screen can be manipulated without covering the main screen, which is a win in my book.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] porscheoscar:
I swap batteries on my phones before going to bed. When I wake up the phone is still at 96%. At noon I'll top up at the desk using Quick Charge which is WAYYYYYYY faster than Samsung, BlackBerry or Nexus wireless charging devices. If you make a habit out of wireless charging you are subjecting the battery to more heat for longer periods, especially if you let the battery discharge completely before topping up. If the phone is hot the battery is taking a beating that gets worse and worse.

I added a wireless charging sticker to my last two phones and got a wireless charging back for the V10 and frankly I'm way more excited about using Quick Charge 3.0 chargers and powerbanks which Apple, Samsung,and Pixel do not have.

P.s.

With the Spigen Rugged Armor case, which is surprisingly thin, you can leave off the back cover and the battery won't come loose. This will make battery swaps a breeze as the rubber Spigen case peels right off.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlknez:
Really? You would buy a phone JUST because it keeps part of it's screen on all of the time?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] joseph.d.williams:
Would you mind elaborating how the DAC support cannot be fully utilized? I was unaware of this and am curious. Just starting to really research it but I do own this phone and that was an important feature for me.

Thanks!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] zhzaen:
Wow, this looks great. Do you think is will support fast charging?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] wcparry:
Back

I just want a back, I have enough cases to last a lifetime already haha. Just a new, QI compliant back would be gangbusters. Speaking of "Old enough to remember" in reference to the BETA/VHS. Go, horrible 1970s.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
Believe when I see it. Don't know if I'll get it it does come out. QC 3.0 is pretty darn fast. Where are the batteries LG? I WANT BATTERIES!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] kms108:
I have the nillkin receiver, it's one of the best on the market, bad thing is, the price is like double the cost of those other already on the market.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] porscheoscar:
Wireless charging will wear out your battery faster if you don't care and plan to swap batteries Quick Charge is still much much faster than wireless. That technology seems to have a limit on how much it can draw that way.

I'm using my first spare battery to today. The text is in Korean while my original battery has English text.

I'm carrying a pocket sized anker powercore+ 3.0 power bank and a really long iOrange-E Type C cable. Charges are so fast, and I get to 80% in a snap and swap in the spare battery after a couple of 40-80% cycles. Maybe I can avoid using my usual 8 batteries. But it's so great to always have four or five batteries ready to go.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
I'm not sure if wireless wears your battery down faster. The heat isn't that hot. It's just less efficient and slower, slower being good. Is there scientific proof proving wireless charging affects the finite charge cycles of batteries?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pick_A_Name:
The whole point is the battery is replaceable, so if it dies a little quicker, to me the ease of use is worth it. I like being able to put it in the charger when I come into my office and easily and quickly grab it if I need to leave. I'm up and down quite a bit at work. And with the N7's wireless quick charge, it was really pretty fast. Maybe not QC3 fast, but good enough. And AT&T night just set it on the charger and sleep. No cables to fall or find. Just my 2¢.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
This QI Charging sticker came in today:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/QI-Wireless...21baa1&pid=100012&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=252581549953

The following samples were performed using a Samsung Fast Charge Wireless dock & screen saver turned off:

Charging rate w/battery @ 50% & device powered on: 15% per hr.

Charging rate w/battery @ 50% & device powered off: 20-25% per hr.

Just in case anyone was wondering,the sticker will not fit underneath the battery cover (& wouldn't work anyway due to the metal construction).

I used a TPU case for the abovementioned tests, both with & without the battery cover installed,works fine either way.

Results varied with thicker cases:

http://www.poeticcases.com/revolution-74

This one would only charge in the horizontal position,shouldn't be a problem w/chargers that have a larger surface area.

Also,the dust cover for the USB C port will not close,due to the sticker being in the way,could possibly be remedied by trimming the USB dust cover flush,but,would likely still daNgle loosely.

Tested this one as well,with better results:

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-accessories/lg-CFV-260-Black

The only fitment issue I ran into was the front flap didn't sit flush,just a bit though,no biggie to me.

However,using this set-up w/o the battery cover & the fit is perfect.

This case also performed well with charging,the orientation of the phone didn't matter.

Granted,NFC function is lost w/o the battery cover installed,whether that's an issue will vary from one user to another.

Is this a perfect solution for wireless charging? Far from it,however,it works well enough for topping off while idle during daily use & should give you a full charge overnight w/o worry.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] kms108:
I ordered this, so that I can put the qi receiver at the back.

The receiver I have is this.

More detail can be found in this link.

http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=1&tid=2&cid=4&scid=22&id=6395&page=1