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[LG V20 Real Life Review] sptw:
Two pictures from Lg V20, from the same flower.

The left picture is only for see how flower is so small, e how Lg V20 can do a fantastic photo of this on the right side.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Medevac1:
Add the Google Pixel camera software mod and it takes the V20's camera game to a whole new level.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
In some situations it helps a lot. The RAW output is really nice at times. But it sucks with focusing, the jpeg output is really bad, tone mapping is awful. The HDR+ aspect is *great* if you just use the DNG files but the HDR+ jpegs have god awful ringing and sharpening from hell etc.

bleh :P

However, I am working on modded camera libraries that improve stock greatly and gcam. I will be releasing here eventually.

https://imgur.com/gallery/RT7qRMC

Sample shots. Shot with ported V30 stock camera and unedited.

Sample set from newer version of my edits:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=YzRIOXlqWldoTW43eEhGQVBpY2VHclpCN3d4V3N3

this is a mixture of gcam and stock DNGs with mild editing.

And here is a sample of a 4k30 video shot on my V20 with my modded libraries using the ported v30 camera + sRGB colorspace enabled (and i just noticed youtube limited it to 1080P.. I will have to re-upload later)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2FEjvGCjA&feature=youtu.be
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
Here's my last set of pictures. Most of them taken in raw and edited on Photoshop Express.

I've been using the wide angle quite often lately. I think it really brings lots of new composition options but the JPEG processing on auto it's just awful.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
Wow, nice work!

I'm actually enjoying the gcam port. The portrai mode is awesome but the processing is very slow - after taking 5-6 in a row the phone heats up and lags as hell!

In general pictures I think the colours are much better than the stock camera bot the focus is too soft at times.

What port are you using? Are you using the cstark one?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
The portrait mode is neat but it doesnt work that well. There's always a LOT of artifacts and depth issues unless you are in very specific scenarious.

I am not sure what version I have tbh lol. I have used the same release for ages now due to every other one I try being crashy as hell.

I think its an older BSG release.

I have no real reason to update my gcam as I only use it for its DNGs. I do not keep the jpegs it produces as they are awful imo.

The softer focus is strictly because gcam *sharpens the hell* out of the photos :P But people apparently like that. It can look ok sometimes but they usually over sharpen and the tone mapping is extremely bad in gcam.

the gcam DNGs are really great tho. They have much more data than the stock ones so you can recover highlights and darks better. Focusing sucks horribly with it though. So I still end up using the stock camera the most and with my mods the colors in stock are better and there's no noise reduction (the oil painting mess) and I have left very mild sharpening on.

I also have disabled lens roll off so you get a nice natural vignette :>
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Care to share which mods you are using specifically or are they just build prop edits? I'm very interested in getting rid of the water color garbage mainly but I'd like to check out the other ones mentioned
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Sure.

You can go here: http://buildbox.justbeca.us/jcarlson.html

I am still working on it. I have some bugs to fix. But it should be mostly working correctly. I hope to update today, actually.

I would recommend backing up your phone before hand.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Thanks for the site. Good to know there are still people tweaking the V20. I hope you are able to figure out some good stuff for the camera as it's the biggest thing about the V20 I have a problem with. The manual mode is amazing but there was always that infuriating water color look any time I needed to zoom in even just a little bit. I'm not into photography as much as you using raw format and editing it afterwards and stuff but I like messing around with stuff sometimes. Auto mode is mostly what I use but it is just straight up disappointing on the V20.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
give my mod a shot then :) The JPEG quality is tremendously better.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Here's a few shots from this week:

https://imgur.com/gallery/J0ne9jK
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Jabbzz:
How about the front cam?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] stewie-droid:
[MENTION=1358997]helf[/MENTION] ...Just FYI but your site is down now.

Did your libs for v20 make it into any of the custom v20 roms, alpha or superv20?

Can you share those libs? Are they in zip form or gotta use explorer?

Thank you in advance. Have a good one.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
He started a new thread for his stuff:

https://xdaforums.com/v20/themes/mod-camera-improvements-t3795031
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Super v20 has my mod. I *think* i95 put them in alpha. Not sure.

My server was having a combination of failing PSU and ACPI firmware issues. I have it back up and running. I've been stability testing the past week. I'll have the site back up this week.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
I would love to try those mods but the root process on my H99ODS is a bit complicated...

I'm now trying SNAP CAMERA HDR and I must say it's a very interesting app. Using Camera2Api and removing all noise reduction in the options (it's off by default) the JPEGs come out much better. It kinda reminds me of the G4 pictures. :)

Do you have samples of the stock camera with the modded libraries? I may try doing the Dirty Santa method but the user experiences on the thread are kinda spooky.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
If you run my mods (assuming you are rooted) you can solve those cons :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] RojasTKD:
Disclaimer: This is my expierance others my differ.

Camera:

If like me you like to sit mainly in Auto mode, I found the camera to disappoint. There are some really nice photos pisos here, but using manual mode and doing post processing/editing with photo software, noon of witch I intend to do. If you are an enthusiast and manual mode shooter and software enhancer type, it might be right for you.

I picked up a V20 intending it to replace my Axon 7 and Nexus 6P. After a camera test between those devices I generally liked the others better while shooting Auto mode. Not always, but more often then not. My samples are posted somewhere in this thread.

Battery:

If you actually use the device battery life is one of the worse I've ever had. Your going to need that removable battery and a couple of spare batteries. I got a big 10,00mAh battery which gives it battery for days, but turned it into a brick.

Audio:

I mainly use the V20 as a portable audio player, where I it shines. I have a $500 DAP that is my primary portable music player. My iBasso DX150 is a more resolving player but the V20 is better when it and about as it's MUCH thinner and easier to carry. With Viper4Android the V20 also allows me to EQ my iSine 10s when using Spotify, something I can't do with the DX150. The V20 is very good for audio especially if you root and install Viper4Android, as well as do the high impedance mod. I've been using mine as a portable music player. But mine stuffers from the headphone jack issue that others have had. It becomes loose due to the way it's designed (held in place by others para places on it). It wiggle causing cut outs, pausing, or triggering the Google Assistant.... All of which is VERY annoying. I plant on getting the V30/V35/V40 in the near future because I'm tired of dealing with the jack issues. I did a "fix"that helped for a while but it's acting up again.

See here about jack:

https://youtu.be/puMeSI769Y4

Going to try this next:

https://youtu.be/4NamCMooOaQ

If you want to use it as a daily driver is recommend a newer V-series device (V30 or V35) or another device, even if it will cost you a bit more. I believe you be happier in the end.

It could make a really nice and thin music device if the headphone jack issue doesn't pop up.

In short, I recommend something else today. You can get a V30 at a reasonable price these days. I'd recommend that over the V20 all day.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] reflux24:
Just install Gcam for auto mode, utilizes all of the latest Pixel image processing with just a tap, when the V20 has this app it actually beats my Pixel XL in most conditions.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] RojasTKD:
I tried to install Gcam a few weeks back, but install failed. I guess the ROM installed when routing my V20 is the reason. Not really sure but didn't workout for me.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Look for Cstark's Gcam build. He built it specifically for LGs with wide angle lenses

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/themes/cstark27-google-camera-mod-wide-angle-t3747263/post75508036

He just came out with a new experimental version with wide angle all in one apk. I haven't tried it yet but I would stick with V3.8 and you will.need the separate wide angle APK as well if you plan on using the wide angle lenses with Gcam
[LG V20 Real Life Review] RojasTKD:
Thanks, I'll give it a shot as soon as I get a chance. ?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
Oreo

I find Google camera HDR mode very potent but the app is a bit buggy.

On Oreo you have a option when on Manual Mode to remove noise reduction in the pictures. It doesn't remove it completely but there's an improvement when compared to Auto Mode.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
On the V20 or V30? The Gcam app I've heard can be kind of glitchy on Oreo but it runs great on Nougat on my V20. There is a bit of trial and error dialing in the kind of settings you want as max quality looks amazing but is rather slow when capturing.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
I have a V20 and I've used google camera on Nougat and now on Oreo. I think it crashed less on nougat. I'm using CSTARK 3.7 as it seems to be one of the best ones for the LG, compatibility wise. I haven't touched the settings, do you have made some changes you recommend?

As for the noise reduction, I was referring to the stock camera on Oreo.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Oh gotcha I have a v30 now and I saw it on there but didn't recall seeing it on my v20.

As far as Gcam goes I forget what settings I tweaked for my V20 but for my V30 I'm relearning a few things since some stuff has changed on Oreo
[LG V20 Real Life Review] thorium232:
After installing this app, played with it a few minutes, my V20 started to lag so much, in AIDA the CPU was at 50-60% load for no reason, no apps were running. Had to reset my phone to factory defaults ! Does the app have cryptocurrency mines hidden in it ?!?!?!?!? OR WTF ?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Was this after taking a picture with HDR or HDR+ enabled? Once you take the picture the HDR does it's magic in the background (should be a little notification icon) depending on settings and firmware of phone it can get extremely laggy while it's processing HDR but after it finishes it should clear up pretty quick

{{{{EDIT}}}}} also there a bazillion different t versions of Gcam that have been tweaked and modded for different phones and preferences so it would help if you state what app you downloaded
[LG V20 Real Life Review] thorium232:
I can understand it might get laggy during taking a picture, which it did, but even after closing the app ? That's not possible, I even reset the data and cache of the app and the phone was like having a 486 in Windows 10.

I've checked Aida for temperatures and the LED sensor was at 71 degrees, maybe that might had something to do with...

The file I've installed was this one: cstark27_GCam_5.1.018_24_v4.2t3.apk

Anyway, the phone has been reset to it's factory defaults and it's working fine.

Can you tell me please, which compatible Gcam should I install for my V20 ? I really enjoyed the Portrait style :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
That looks like one of the updated ones which has both wide and regular camera but into the same app. I haven't tried out many of the newer versions as I'm still on cstark27_GCam_5.1.018_24_v3.8 which has the wide angle split into a different app but from what I've read the one you downloaded is fine. I guess just try it again and see if it does the same thing. Did you download it from XDA or a different source??
[LG V20 Real Life Review] imeem:
how does the picture and video quality compare to the galaxy note 4?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Imo auto mode has generally been kind of worst than my note simply because of the horrible post processing that LG puts on. It's not always noticeable but auto is very inconsistent and Manual mode is better but not always the most practical. However if you use one of the modded Gcams then it blows it away.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] androiddiego:
I came from the note 4. Definitely better. Especially with the Gcam app.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
I came from a Note Edge which is essentially identical to the Note 4 other than the display and the image quality on the V20, especially with my modded libraries and gcam are *much* better.

The Note Edge could focus a tad closer but it could not output DNG files which is what I exclusively use with the V20 and the output from the V20 is miles ahead of the Note 4.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] imeem:
thanks. i'll be primary be shooting and recording in music festival, clubs, raves, etc... My note 4 takes eh to amazing photos (if my timing and lighting is perfect).
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Auto mode is kinda meh on the V20. My camera mods improve it a *lot* though. The horrible noise reduction and sharpening is all but removed. Color correction is better etc.

You can also get full cine-log color on all video modes. Ripped from the V30 :)

Im working on an update still with more features.

My Note Edge's processing was definitely better than stock LG but with mods the V20 trounces the Note.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Here's some recent pics from my V20 (edited in lightroom mobile. Mostly shot using modded GCam 5.1 (not cstarks) and always DNG output.)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
I would say use manual for the stock camera. Gcam might be good but in concerts and raves with all the different colors and light flashing and going off, it always seems to mess up auto modes in my experience. Plus the stock camera is better for video than the Gcam especially for the audio part.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Also, audio in manual mode in the stock app with the audio set to HQ will be *much* better than what gcam will give you. Especially in loud environments.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] flp11748:
Noise reduction

Hi!

Nice, I always found the auto mode a downgrade from th G4. I always have to shoot in RAW to get a decent picture. It's funny that the RAW pictures from the stock camera are different than the GCAM ones...

Do these mods work on stock camera or only on GCAM?

Ah, and do they work on Oreo?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] EnterTHEvoiD:
which GCam version are you using, have you got a link?

great photos BTW :good:
[LG V20 Real Life Review] imeem:
got my hands on the phone ( US 996) took it to an edm show. I didn't expect the auto mode to be this bad compare to my Note 4.

Also, I get black screens when I take videos in auto mode using the stock camera, is this normal (when i press record, there's a black screen delay, and then it starts recording)? When i had a H918, I'm not sure if i noticed it or not.

this is what i mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KbXS-8QsrQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbK_COczXz0

is my phone broken?

EDIT:

I think I found the cause of it and it is a software bug/limitation (I’m on 7.0 on the Nov 6, 2017 security patch). This black screen happens when the photo size is set to 4:3 and the video resolution is different (all the video resolutions are 16:9), and you press the video record button. This only affects the stock camera when used in auto mode, and does not seem to affect third party camera apps.

While setting the photo size to 16:9 to match the video resolution, this does not solve the 1-5 seconds of delay when I press the record button and when the phone actually records. The delay seems to be less with third party apps.

Why does LG do this?

can you guys reproduce this?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Jogg3r:
Guys, today I got a Pixel 2 XL like new for about 250 dollar. Did a short camera comparison between the pixel and the V20. I was shocked! The V20 camera is imo better than the Pixel cam. Muuuuch less noise in low light. Seems that the camera lens of the Pixel is so absolutely garbage. There is no information about what lens the pixel 2 uses. The only advantage of the pixel cam is the HDR mode and that's only useful with many different light sources. And for that Im having the gcam in my V20 as well. With using the gcam I get pretty similar quality. Night sight of course is a bit better in the Pixel. Especially more realistic colors. But that's it..

BUT I absolutely prefer the V20 stock cam. Even if it's a bit slow.

Attached the cropped part. Left side was a window and my room was very low lighted. Yes of course with the Pixel I saw more details in the windows because of HDR, but look at the noise and the details.. Better in the V20. but after using gcam with the V20 I got similar if not even better better quality!

Amy one with similar opinion? V20 still rocks with camera in 2019.

Will return the Pixel. Only advantages Pixel got imo is that it's more smooth and updates. But I don't care.

Ah BTW. Left side Pixel right V20. Stock. No night sight.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] goodybags:
I agree with this actually. I like how clean the auto shots of my v20 look, especially in lower light situations. The v20 also seems to give off a more natural look as well compared to GCam's more contrasty, HDR look. I think people rave about it cause of the details you get in the images + excellent dynamic range but you wouldnt really notice it unless you zoom in. Also the GCam seems to underexpose some photos. Still I keep both apks for flexibility ?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] DelphinusMinor:
Those are some real swell shots. I should use manual mode more often. I already use Snapseed on a regular basis.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] baldybill:
Found 1 cstark GCam with working Nightshot but it doesn't seem to switch between the back 2 cameras (yes, I even hold down the camera switch button). Found another cstark GCam without nightshot but I CAN switch back cameras.

Is there a GCam for the V20 (US996) that can do both - night shot and both back cameras?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Slash8915:
You have a link to that discussion for us? I couldn't find it while skimming over the V20 subreddit.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] HwaA18:
Yep!

Here's one: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/5b07ns/so_put_on_hdr_in_auto_or_no/

And here's the other: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/5esel2/considering_getting_a_v20_couple_things_im/daevpd1/
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Low light in automatic can be very hit ormiss. I'd definitely recommend another phone like the s7/s7e for users who just want a good P&S. However, in manual mode the V20 can produce absolutely outstanding photos.

(Resized to 1024x768 @ 95% jpg quality)

The Big Witch Overlook was shot in near pitch black. A tripod + long exposures for some. I massage the images via Adobe Lightroom Mobile often. But you gotta have a good raw image to start out with and the V20 excells at that.

But, automatic mode in anything but good light can be pretty bad. I bought my girlfriend an S7 specifically because it focuses crazy fast and takes excellent photos in nearly any condition without having its hand held.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
Exceptional photos!

I like particularly the second one.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Thanks :)

I've talked with one other person who's had weak results on tmobile v20s and one guy who's sprint one had photo issues. The sprint one got replaced and it was doing better. The tmobile one I'm not sure on yet.

It does seem like LG needs to work on the camera drivers/app badly. Even on mine I'll sometimes get the occasional bad one even when the light/conditions don't seem to be a reason. But at the same time, I can capture exceptionally crisp photos with very little to no apparent noise or noise reduction. Like these (and both are cropped center from 4:3 16mp ones)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] martinmagnus:
the pics from the front camera always looks if the beauty modus is on but its not.

i have a screen protector but it does not cover the lens. anyone else with this problem?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] venuugopal:
The front camera is really bad.. I miss my HTC one A9 front camera...
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
A) Front camera is only 5mp (actually 4.9) when using full resolution.

B) Just like the main cameras, the FFC defaults to a smaller resolution setting from the factory.

C) The sensor size is pretty small. Packing a lot of pixels into a small space requires sacrifices in image quality. That's just physics.

D) Which means cropping and zooming on this sensor is not advised.

E) Most likely there is noise reduction being applied to cope for C. Again, physics.

Personally, I would just use the main camera and voice shutter.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
Just bought t mobile v20

And camera is really bad

Too slow

Images processing is very bad

Zoom is bery bad

My old v10 cam was way better

I feel im using sheap mobile
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Leviboy69:
Picture lg v20

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137689163@N03/shares/7jz8A5
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Examples with settings and exif data in one of the camera threads would be useful. (And I'll forgo jokes about berries and sheep.) I can address your other issues there too.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] planetbeen:
I also feel like my v10 camera is better. I absolutely love the wide angle option. I just don't understand why the pictures on either camera have such a "watercolor" effect in anything but the brightest light. It doesn't make sense. Is the camera in the v20 that much worse (hardware wise) than the one in the v10?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] aweskelo:
This is by far the worst phone camera I've had since my very first Android 2.1 phone back in the day, the OG HTC EVO. I miss my Note 7 :(
[LG V20 Real Life Review] ajamer:
Worst camera? generally regarded as one of the best. I think you guys are leaving HDR on auto and it's combining two shots together and one might be blurry because of motion. I think the Auto HDR function is dumb and HDR should only be turned on if you are shooting somthing that cant move
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Builtfordtough1:
I keep comparing eveything to the note 7 which is better in everyway but heres an acceptable pic from the v20
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Slash8915:
I'm really hoping LG puts out an update to improve the camera's auto mode a bit.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] spiderx_mm:
Currently I've got this LG V20 for myself and Sony Xperia XZ for my wife. LG Camera's auto mode is no match to Sony's Ai mode for sure. These Sony guys have got tonnes of experience regarding camera setting that comes from the legendary CyberShot lineup. All my wife need to do is to point the camera to where she want and press the shutter button.Either in day or night, the photos always come out better than LG's Auto mode.

But when I switched to wide-angle or manual camera mode, the game suddenly changes. There's no way other phone cameras can fit in everything like the LG V20 do, or cannot manage the setting like the manual mode does. So, these days, my favorite way of taking photo is shoot everything in manual mode (but set all settings to automatic), then edit the raw DNG file with SnapSeed. The results are always amazing. Here're some sample shots I've taken and edited.