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[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Jack Sparrow xda:
As per the specs I remember, Moto X 2nd gen (2014 version having 801 krait) has 4 mics and they are to help better noise cancelation as well as stereo recording.

I always got great life like audio quality in my videos recorded through this phone without any interfering wind noise etc like what we usually get when record video on most of the phones and cameras. Though i haven't been on other side of my X2 so can't tell how does it sound but never heard any complaints from other people hearing me.

I don't think iPhones have good mic setup or any cutting edge tech. One of my friend whom i regularly talk has iPhone6 and I struggle many a times hearing him compard to many other people having other phones whome I regulrly talk. Even network reception is not good on his iP6 and he keeps swithing service providers.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] pajo985:
this is very wrong :)

motorola started with noise cancelation in their phones many years before anyone else (in past, they called it crystal talk)

not to mention Bluetooth headsets which are always top notch regarding noise cancelation
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Just because they started it doesn't mean it is great in their phones. And wasn't talking about Bluetooth. Last Motorola Bluetooth earpiece I bought many many moons ago stopped working after 3 months. And it wasn't cheap.

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iPhone noise cancelation is a mixed bag. Wind noise is harder to cut. Also, placmemt and type of mic used. And iPhone still uses a very low bitrate when recording videos. Eager to see if the lg v20 lives up to its promise of clear recording ecen at high dB.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] krisdb:
Since I'm still using my 2013 Moto X, anything is an upgrade. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Living_with_LC:
Gain

- battery life. Coming from a 2 year old Note 4 that could barely get me to lunch, I was amazed yesterday to get from 6am to 3am with 40% batter remaining. Moderate use throughout the day, bit of gaming, bit of surfing etc.

Missing

- Miracast/ Screen mirroring. I used this all the time with my Note and Roku. I have no idea how to watch Kodi now so any advice would be gladly received.

Cheers
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Battery life is only a hair worse than note4, but sometimes better. I got 6h58m SOT first full charge. 5.5h second charge in a more demanding environment but also had 15% left. Exceeded my expectations for battery and some might do better. Does screen sharing work for the above poster. Haven't tried it yet.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] IllNinoChild:
too big display for me, so maybe I will change it back too iPhone 6 xD

also I don't like "shh", which you can hear time by time when music or other sounds are on the low volume level
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thechosen1ji:
Love this phone

Coming from note 5

lost

1. Bigger screen and better resolution.

2.Best camera I have used on mobile phone.

3.Note 5 aesthetics are top notch.

gained

1. Battery Life no more 3hrs on screen time.

2. Fingerprint sensor way better than note 5.

3.Expanded storage through micro sd.

4.No att samsung bloatware :D

Overall the battery life on this phone just makes me love it more than any previous phone owned. Plus moto software it always on point form me :good: Also forgot to way less lag even with less processing power than note 5
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] _jfo_:
Lost: RAM and a few steps on the camera quality scale. Dash charging.

Gained: Battery life

I came from a OnePlus 3. The drop in RAM is noticeable. I feel like almost every time I try to multitask and switch back to an app it refreshes on me. Also been very disappointed in the camera quality on the MZP. Battery life (my #1 priority) has made up for those 2 faults though.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Clyzm:
Cons compared to Nexus 6:

-Had a slightly better camera in HDR mode. Particularly because of OIS

-Was nicer to hold.

-Android 7.0

-Higher resolution screen was a little nicer for VR.

-Used to have front facing stereo speakers.

Pros:

-Tripled battery life.

-Fingerprint reader.

-Style mods.

-Smaller screen (I have big hands and the N6 was still a touch too big)

-Dual tone flash.

-Front facing flash.

-No strange colour cast when the screen is dimmed.

-More responsive camera

Performance is sort of an outlier, since I think it's about the same. I think the Nexus 6 may have even been a bit faster.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coolkingler1:
I just don't understand why people have such an insane amount of apps open, don't you ever close anything? 3gb is pretty much the standard.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Probably the ram management and how the app is programmed. Like xda doesn't like to stay in ram. Seems it wants to reload 80% of the time when you come back to it.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] _jfo_:
Yea, it's insane that this happens when I have 3 or 4 apps running....:rolleyes:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
You probably lg didn't use the galaxy s6/edge/note5 when they first came out. I was going to keep the s6 though it was to small and had sealed battery but the ram management was insanely bad. Even devs had a hard time improving it. I never followed up to see if it was fixed in firmware. That was definitely Samsung's bad. If you have bad ram management on this phone I think it has to with the apps you're using or you screwed up a certain setting in dev options.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] coolkingler1:
What? 3 or 4 apps is nothing for 3GB, I have 3-5 open all the time and I barely ever have to reload anything.

3-4 apps should not give you trouble like that.

I mostly have open: Whatsapp, Chrome (2 tabs or so), Mozilla (for background music), VLC media player if not Mozilla, Google Fit sometimes. Gmail sometimes.

I just looked at my RAM usage and it is at 1.8GB, with Fit, Chrome and Whatsapp open. On average I use 65% of total RAM according to the RAM statistics in Android.

Also, that sarcastic tone is not needed considering you came from a freaking OP3 with twice the amount of RAM.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Tobseren:
I came from the Huawei Nexus 6P and the iPhone 6S (switched with just a couple of weeks in between before buying the Z Play)

I'm not impressed with the camera quality compared to the 6P and 6S unfortunately. Also it's actually more difficult to handle than the Nexus 6P even though the Z Play got a smaller screen.

But I've gained the Active Display which is superior compared to Ambient Display from 6P and Lift to Wake from IOS10.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] metalmike6:
Not to mention the Android ecosystem over the iPhone. There's no comparison to iPhone man. Unless you enjoy not being able to do anything useful beyond make phone calls and iMessage and social media. The battery life also slays damn near everything out there that you'd want to own. Higher screen resolution than the iPhone. Nicer colors. I'd give up a little on the camera any day for the battery life alone over an iPhone. Throw in all the other stuff and it's no contest. you also gain expanded storage over both. Just saying...
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] me_ankit:
Switched from MOTO G 2014 Dual Sim

PROS:

Massive performance improvement (Processor & Ram)

2-3 times battery life

VOLTE/4G

Bigger Screen

Moto Actions

Fingerprint sensor

Better camera

CONS:

SLIPPERY !!

Heavier

No stereo speakers

Phone not as popular so bad selection of cases
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thegregulator:
I will say give me the exact same apps on Android and iOS and 99% of the time they are way better on iOS. I had a 6S Plus before this Play and it's insane how much better the same apps are on iOS. Hangouts on iOS is an excellent example of that. I found iOS to be less limiting than a lot of people make it seem too. But the battery life on this thing is what makes up for all of that. I don't ever have to plan for my phone needing a charge at some point during the day. It's the best.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] metalmike6:
Pretty sure you're speaking in regards to social apps. Hangouts definitely is one. How about this... Do me a favor, send me an mp3 or music file from your iTunes collection to my email. Hell do this for me, Create a zip file containing several PowerPoint presentations excel documents word documents and pictures. Not separate, all together and send me that zip file through email. Do it all on your phone, on the go... Or hey, you have a bunch of VERY LARGE important files on your phone, pretend you're a content creator/musician/movie editor/marketing rep/etc... You're associate has a PC or no PC at all and is standing right in front of you. Whats easier and more efficient to transfer him/her those files... USB cord or USB OTG to transfer the file to PC or thumb drive? Or the absolute crazy rings of fire you must jump through to get those files off your iPhone? 99% of the time with an iPhone it's easier to "do it later" when you get to your laptop/desktop. And that is unacceptable to me in the age of mobile computing.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thegregulator:
For you yup. But you're more of a 1% mobile user then. Obviously iOS doesn't work for you.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] metalmike6:
Considering apple is losing money over last year, I don't think I'm in the 1% anymore. I used to be for years. People would simply tell me "yeah but I don't do that" when I tell then why I think Android has the advantage. Now not so much. Big heavy work takes place on your desktop or laptop, and when you walk away you need something to compliment them. Either that or you fall behind the guy that has that ability. People will cling to there iOS devices for the next couple years but unless apple revamps their OS to not be a walled garden they are going to lose out for the second time in the life of their company. I mean every year they steal more features from Android. I don't think that places me in the 1%. I think it means more than 1% of people want these features and apple simply is holding off on implementing them because they "know what people want." I don't know I'm not trying to start a flame war though haha. If it works better for you functionally then that's great! We should all use the things that best compliment our lives.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thegregulator:
Me neither. I use both and I get by with both. I would argue that if Apple is selling fewer phones than before it's likely driven more by the fact there are very good, cheaper alternatives in the market now and that those phones happen, and to quote Google, be "Powered by Android" (I hate that greeting). That said, I see the benefits to both OS's. I wish the Play had a better camera, but if having a better camera meant it had to sacrifice in other areas, like battery size or screen, then I'm happy MotoNovo went the way they chose.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Jack Sparrow xda:
There is already Moto Z for those looking for better camera quality and slim figure (read better looks), spend more (still much lesser and justified than an iPhone) and get that.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thegregulator:
I've seen a Moto Z without a battery mod in action. Battery life is abysmal. The camera really isn't THAT much better either. I'm in Canada so the Z Force isn't an option. The Moto Z with a battery mod would be a decent package, but it's certainly not cheap, and if I'm spending that kind of money I may as well be looking at an iPhone(slightly more money but better camera) or a Pixel XL.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Jack Sparrow xda:
Well so the Moto Z battery poorer than iPhone? I guess no. And what is the proof that iPhone camera is better than say a Z in real life scenario? They all have tinny sensors and all of them suck. Pixel is definitely overpriced which doesn't anything special like what Moto flagships have been offering till now in terms if innovative and really useful features and functions.

I have been using Moto X 2nd gen and after living with it for couple of years, I can safely say that every other phone including Nexus, Pixel, iPhones or Samsung flagships feel ancient era phones. I am currently in situation that if I go for any other phone except Moto flagships, that will be downgrade for me, rather will be tough to live with if I can't get existing set of features I currently have. You can know only when you have really used any top of the line Moto phone and have used the features available under 'Moto' app, forget about the attachments and physical mods at the moment.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] thegregulator:
I've used a Moto Z and an iPhone 6s Plus. I can unequivocally say the iPhone has a better camera, and it's actually not even close. The Moto Z Play is an awesome phone for the price. You're going to be hard-pressed to find anything that can go toe to toe with this phone at this price point. The OnePlus 3 and the Idol 4s come to mind, but then you're waiting for updates forever. But once you get into "flagship" pricing, Moto doesn't have enough going for it to justify spending that kind of money. The screens aren't as good as Samsung. The phones aren't water proof. The cameras are a notch or two below pretty well anything at that price point.

I'm not saying Moto phones are bad, and clearly you like them. For me, there simply isn't enough there to justify spending $1000+ on a Moto flagship when there are much better (my opinion) options out there. I will be using this Z Play for awhile though because it's incredible not having to worry about the phone dying in a day. I think I've gotten it down to 40% in a day once, and that was almost 8 hours of screen on time.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Jack Sparrow xda:
And please, spend bit of time playing with 'Moto' app and start using the features availble in it with open mind, maybe we will talk later after couple of months on same topic. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] Fausto1337:
G2 vs Z Play

LG G2 > Moto Z Play

Losses

-OIS

-custom ROMs

-rear Keys (I kinda like it)

Gains

+Better camera

+Moto actions

+ Moto mods

+Super AMOLED display

+ Battery life

+Screen size (5.5 x 5.2)

+ Front flash

+ Performance

+2 SIM

+Sd card slot

+More storage cap (32 x 16)

+ Fingerprint sensor

+2 tone rear flash

+ Laser autofocus

+Turbo charger

+ Premium material build

+ RAM (3gb x 2gb)

+ Battery life (yes, again. This is a monster hard to kill phone)

+ Faster Android updates

OK, it was more than worth it to me hehehe
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] welxiii:
I come from a Nexus 6. I've been using this for less than a week.

(-)

Rom support, better cam(I think), awesome big screen, dual front firing speakers.

(+)

Dual sim, sd card slot, mods, lasting battery, moto display, gestures

I love my nexus but at times it felt limiting. Limited storage, single sim. I always had to recharge and I find myself always using it while plugged in.

The play is snappy, only times I lagged was when on fb messenger, but I think that is because of the app. i did not feel any speed difference coming from the 6. Even with a single speaker, it sounds big. Also, the skin is close to stock so I'm like using a nexus. I dont even miss flashing roms.

This is a great phone. Moto came up with a gem. :)
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] kevinblackwell:
I gain RAM, Camera, Processor, Screen, Battery... I think all lol

Moto G 2015-Moto Z play
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] RealiZms:
I went from a 5.7 to a 5.5 inch screen (which I like better honestly)

Aside from that this phone is better in literally every way.

Can't wait for nugget!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
I came from a OnePlus 3 and other than better battery life, flat back with a mod, and Moto gestures, it's a step down.

The Z Play has a much worse camera, heavier, much more awkward to hold, way less dev support, way smaller community, worse ram management, much slower updates, more expensive, uglier, glass back, awkward bottom chin, slower fingerprint sensor, forced to use on-screen buttons, less customization, slower charging, etc.

That being said, once we get nougat, the lack of dev support and slow updates won't matter until next October when Google drops 8.0. The mods are gimmicky for now, hopefully they release something more useful than a battery mod for the z play in the near future. Really enjoying the z play battery life, though.

If OnePlus released a OnePlus 3 variant with a snapdragon 625 and a flat back, everything else identical to the 3/3T, would be absolutely perfect.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] flashallthetime:
I've had the original moto x , the Nexus 5, then Nexus 6, the moto x play.

I'm quite familiar with all Moto's great features.

The reason I've always prefered moto is for the call quality ,which in imo is superior.

My Nexus 6 was bye far the most awkward to hold.

I'll put the z up against any premium phone and the z will hold its own.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] shantusingh:
Missing things :

1. As i was using htc one m8 which had amplified dual speakers inbuilt, which sounded great. That's missing. Even tough i have jbl soundboost, but the fact is i cannot take it along and use it as a phone speaker, as it gets like huge and too bulky as for anyone it'll be a no to use it as a phone speaker.

2. Not So great display(its very good though). Display is yellowish, even i replace as i am about too, it won't be good as htc m8, yes even if i compare to that 2 year old phone.

3. No option in stock software to block a saved contact.

4. In-call speaker volume(not loud speaker) if reduced, doesn't remain fixed to that reduced level, as on every new call its all back to full by itself.

Gains :

1. Amazing battery life. As htc sucked in this terribly.

2. fingerprint tech, and is 100% accurate and awesome, i don't get confuse by its location at all.

3. Bigger screen to enjoy movies and games.

4. JBL soundboost is killer!! Makes it be number one in entertainment to "PLAY" with.

5. No lag at all, and a lot better performance in opening apps and multi tasking.

6. Love the lazer auto focus and super fast capture speed of photos.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] uberano26:
Im wondering why you even changed to the Play, considering you can get better battery out of the OP3 with its way better dev support :confused:
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
I've tried pretty much every rom and kernel in existence and not a single one gets anywhere near the battery life of the Z Play. Sold my wife's old moto x pure, she took the OP3, and I got the Z Play, so I didn't feel too bad about swapping. Don't get me wrong, the OP3 is great, but battery is not anywhere near as good as the Z
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] jonnyd100:
I'm just happy that this phone hasn't broken after 10 minutes like my Sony M4 aqua which required 3 repairs then I got an "upgrade" to the M5 which is now also stopped working. The camera is a bit of a step down in terms of raw specs ( 21mp back and 13mp front) but focus now works and photos actually look much better, even after hearing poor things about the camera. I am now able to use apps which require a gyroscope and I no longer require an SD card to store anything since the bump in storage is very appreciated. The much more stock setup from Motorola is really good. The best thing by far is the battery. My old Sony was struggling to get through a day while I was at school, screen off for most of the day with Bluetooth on for my smartwatch and earphones. Now I can get over 9 hours of screen on time with around 25% of battery life left! I am very happy with my choice. The phone is very snappy and runs well in almost every app I throw at it!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] dragonking37:
Lost and Gained

Coming from the LG V10 I did lose a considerable amount of nifty things.

Miss the laser to remotely control my TV. Miss the ........... Nope, that's about it.

The battery life sucked. I had to turn everything off just to make 9 hrs on the battery.

I got the Z Play with the projector on Black Friday special and love it! If you plan on getting a mod that's the one I would try first. I've always wanted a phone with a projector on it and so far this is the one!

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Coming from the LG V10 I did lose a considerable amount of nifty things.

Miss the laser to remotely control my TV. Miss the ........... Nope, that's about it.

The battery life sucked. I had to turn everything off just to make 9 hrs on the battery.

I got the Z Play with the projector on Black Friday special and love it! If you plan on getting a mod that's the one I would try first. I've always wanted a phone with a projector on it and so far this is the one! Oh, almost forgot to mention, the battery life ROCKS! Even with as much as I use my phone I can still get a day and a half on one charge!
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] inversvs:
I hopped over from the iPhone 7 to the Moto Z Play. I couldn't get used to iOS, it was clunky and things felt out of place (I enjoy a lot of control and customization over my smartphone experience). I also got a V20 on boxing day.

These are the things I've observed using both.

1) Battery life. The Moto Z is better optimised to handle intense days, where with the V20 I'm looking for an outlet after 18 hours. Some days require me to charge the V20 twice. The Z Play has never required any of that.

2) The Z's camera is good enough to keep up with the V20 75% of the time under good light. Low light is a mess for both phones, the V20 is still the clear winner. In short, it's good enough for most average consumers.

3) Good design, something the Z Play has going for it. Once you get passed the fact that the back of the Z Play has a thick plastic layer over the glass, it's great. The V20 by comparison feels good, handles well, and doesn't feel that much bigger than the Z Play.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] titaniumtux:
Coming from the Moto X Play, haven't started using my Z Play yet (still in its box), waiting for the Nougat update plus the arrival of online-ordered accessories. Got the Z Play as a logical upgrade because I could snag it at a great discount. Didn't seem like much of an upgrade, but I get myself a new phone every 8-12 months and I didn't like anything else.

Missing:

* FM radio (I use this feature)

* Smaller camera

* Miracast - hopefully I'll enable it without bricking the phone

* USB data cable - had to order the micro to type c adapter, only got the wall charger in box

Gain:

* Hopefully updates into Android 8

* 4K video recording

* Double the internal storage

* A hand-me-down to gift my x play to a family member
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] vietkao:
Overall a total improvement from my close-to-death Moto X Pure.

Pros:

- Better coolness (choice of words lol, phone runs cooler in anyway possible)

- Better battery life (this was what put me on the hype train for this phone and it does not disappoint, 10hr SOT blow my mind)

- Fingerprint sensor (First phone I use with the fingerprint sensor, not mentioning the note 4 because that was a disaster. Now my phone is locked and I can still open it with ease, no swiping or anything.)

- Headphone jack on the bottom (might seems minor but it's better and logical)

Cons:

- Horrible screen to body ratio (This phone has a 5.5" display and it is bigger than a phone with 5.7" display, damn)

- Glassback (fingerprints magnet, but fixed it with a case, or the shield)

- Limited accessories (cannot seem to find any good cases for it). Moto mods seem great but I'm only interested in the projector and 480p atm is not really something worthy of anything. 720p is ok-ish.
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
You'll be shocked how much better the Z Play is than the x play. It runs circles around my old x pure and keeps up with my wife's OnePlus 3 easily. The snapdragon 625 is the best mobile CPU ever, shame it isn't in more phones :(
[Moto Z Play Questions & Answers] titaniumtux:
I believe it. The X Play is already a great phone. I grabbed the Z Phone because I got a great price. Figured I'd have nothing to lose overall.