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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ExcuseTheN00b:
Google told me the same thing the first time I contacted them. So far I have not seen my screen flicker in 2 days since the one and only time it happened on the charger. Still keeping an eye on it though.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
What exactly did you have to do? Boot into Safe Mode and call them? Keep phone on Safe Mode? Boot to Safe Mode and the reboot?

I left my phone in Safe Mode and it still flickers.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
Also when I boot into Safe Mode and reboot.... All my widgets disappear.

Going to leave as is..no widgets and see if I still get the flickering.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DrKaotica:
Have you tested it leaving it charged overnight, then checking for the flicker?

Mine doesn't do it if i charge it up to 100% and try to get the flicker right away. It seems to be when I wake up in the morning, having had the phone sitting on the charger, at 100%, presumably for several hours. Just curious.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] arrghushakaboorga:
I noticed this the morning for the first time. Normally I unplug it before I use it, but this morning I was checking on my Wi-Fi issue with it plugged in and saw the flickering. If it's only when it's been charged for a while that's not too bad for me at least. Going to monitor over the next few days. Hoping my Wi-Fi disconnect issue can get resolved or I might try to RMA for both of these reasons
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] khaytsus:
A lot of devices have a little flicker in them.. You'll only notice it at certain brightness, certain colors or blocks of colors, certain circumstances, etc.

It's not something to flip out over. If you're seeing severe flicker something is wrong. A little minor flicker at low brightness in some blocks of grey sometimes...... no
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] tonyfiore75:
Just gonna chime in here... I had this 'problem' on my HTC One. At first I thought it was a defect but eventually I learned that it was just something that had to do with the hardware and its response while charging. A lot of folks mentioned it when getting their HTC One phones.

Considering this phone was made by HTC, I'm assuming it's a case of the same thing. I don't think there's anything wrong with the phone, per se. I think it's a byproduct of design. Is it ideal? No. Is it supposed to do that? I don't know. But I don't think it's a showstopper.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ExcuseTheN00b:
I tried safe mode first before calling them when I was trying to diagnosis this issue but it still flickered. The first Google rep I spoke too sent me an email with different steps to try and safe mode was one of those but it didn't work before. I restarted the phone after I saw it happening in safe mode but have not seen it happen in about 3 days and I am almost trying to get it to happen again but so far nothing.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SteveyJack:
Charged mine last night on the Anker USB multi charger with USB-PD and didn't get any flicker but did when connected via USB-C to my laptop.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
Is this not just PWM normal flicker? On some phones it can be worse than others.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
Nah, this is not like constant rhythm pwm flicker under certain conditions. This is definitely an issue. The flickering is random and when it's happening, the flickering actually increases when you touch the screen. Pwm flicker should not change on touch.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jdb12345:
Google won't confirm, I tried to get them to say something. But they were quick to replace it with the guarantee that I would be credited back as soon as the phone was received. It was so quick and to the point, they are definitely in damage control.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Nitemare3219:
You returned the phone over THIS? Lmao. I haven't even seen the issue yet, because I haven't met the required conditions... and probably never will. I don't leave my phone plugged in when I use it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jdb12345:
This happens with any charger, included or not. It only happens at least a few minutes after reaching 100%. It also only happens with my brightness set to low. I was finely able to narrow it down and reproduce it on command. Definitely not OK. Unplug or turn the brightness up and it's gone, reverse and it's back. I just wish Google support didn't treat you like this is unheard of. It is obviously a known issue at this point. Keep this thread going, so people aren't convinced they are delusional. I would have guessed software, but if replacements aren't doing it then it must be hardware. Thanks guys! I have been searching and was starting to feel like I was crazy.

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You are so helpful! I am sure no one ever checks their phone while plugged in. When I said thanks, I meant everyone but you.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] uploder:
noticed this for the 1st time today myself. only way I'd RMA personally is if it happened with normal use off the charger. Keeping an eye on it
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
I received my replacement today. The phone is currently sitting at 100% for an hour or so. So far no flicker. Hopefully it stays that way.

Anyway, glad I went for replacement. The new unit has perfect screen. Old one has that typical and common patchy AMOLED screen with middle being slightly darker than rest of the screen at low brightness on grey screen.

The new one is perfect.

Now just praying that flicker is not on the new unit. Will report back after day of testing before I start using it as primary phone.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
Well since none of the replacements seem to have to problem so far.....I went ahead and requested a replacement. Should get it tomorrow

It don't really bother me that much....but then I think about spending almost $1K for the phone.....so I might as well get another.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
Well.... My replacement too has the flicker. Looks like universal issue. Just that the trigger point is different.

Before on previous handset, I could see it below 40% brightness on Chrome without any tab open. ( Dark Grey background).

On this new unit, I have to go to close to 10% brightness to see the flicker.

The new screen is also perfectly uniform unlike old one which was patchy. So I am now in 2 mind what to do.

I might get patchy screen again if I go in for replacement again. :(

I was thinking of refunding it and buy in December again after Google and htc fixes whatever the issue is.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] joshlubin:
Mine isn't flickering anymore? When I spoke to google chat I sent them this link to check it out and they said they were investigating a few days ago. Yesterday I got an email saying they're still working on it. I feel like maybe they pushed out an update silently? Considering they can do that now with Pixel. I hope that's what they did cuz so far it's not happening and I don't wanna have to exchange it again. Already had to do it once for a loud and clicky volume up button..that one also flickered. But bottom line right now currently plugged in at 100% and its not happening. I'll check again in the morning.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
Very unlikely.

Mine was flickering just 4 hours back. I am charging it back up to check again, but I have no hope.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] joshlubin:
Interesting. It's weird because it's actually not happening anymore. Even now this morning.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
So got my replacement Pixel XL 128g Black today.

Didn't set up or download any apps, just turned it on and skipped everything to get to the home page. Plugged it up and let it charge to 100%. Checked it out and the screen flickers also

Same as my other it only flickers at 100% and with a dim screen mostly noticeable with Adaptive Brightness on.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
Yup, this is more widespread than Google will admit. I have now seen 3 units. 2 mine including replacement and one demo pieces at the store. All had 100% charge low brightness flicker.

Such a shame.....
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Lantec26:
Just got my replacement yesterday and the new phone still has the flicker but it's a lot less noticeable. Turn off night mode and it's completely gone. But it's still shows up when the brightness is turned down. Hopefully my next replacement will have this issue fixed. My gf's pixel doesn't have the issue though.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] hutzdani:
Yeah I get this with any charger and only across the top quarter of the display, happens on both my XLs.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mikeytusa:
My replacement phone arrived today. It does the exact same screen flickering as the original. :(
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] beastlykings:
Checking in here, my Pixel XL has this issue as well, glad I'm not crazy or alone. I noticed it last week but didn't understand what I was seeing, thought it might have been the game I was playing or something. Tonight I noticed it while watching a YouTube video, it seems more noticeable on darker colors when at 40% or so with night mode on. Noticeable on white screens when below 40% with night mode both on and off. I can reproduce the issue repeatedly, and it goes away immediately if screen brightness turned up or charger unplugged. Also I've noticed that no one has mentioned non USB-C chargers, I used my USB-A wall charger with a reputable A-C adapter and had the exact same issue.

I plan on contacting Google to see what they say, but I will wait on the RMA since so few have had success with that route. Here's to hoping it's a software fixable issue. But even if it isn't, as long as it's not actually hurting the phone, I guess I'm fine with it, I probably won't RMA in that case.

For the record I'm running 7.1 and my build number is NDE63L. We should start noting what build numbers we are using when observing or not observing these issues to see if a pattern emerges or an update fixes something.

Thanks guys.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
NDE63L both on original and my replacement.

Google Store purchase
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Thought I'd chime in now having owned two Pixels (XL and regular). My very early XL which I got on launch day had the severe flickering at pretty much any brightness while plugged in and at full charge. My new Pixel does not exhibit this at all. Not one bit. I returned my XL.

By the way, and sort of related, does adaptive brightness work for anyone? Both my Pixels failed in this sense. It never does anything. Grabbing my phone at 6am this morning in the dark BLINDED me. I think I'm still seeing spots LOL. And in the sun, it stays very dim.

-Collin-
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] junkimchi:
Have a launch day Pixel XL from Verizon that flickers when it is fully charged on the stock charger. Unsure if it does it when fully charged on car charger. Hopefully it can be resolved through an OS update?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
The fact that Google had been silent on this issue points to note of a hardware and design issue and not software.

If it was fixable via software, they would have said so to stop people from returning or refunding the purchases. Like they did with lens flare issue.

Also the nature of the issue points towards something fundamentally wrong with trickle charging and grounding as the screen flicker pattern changes when you touch the screen.

Really disappointing in otherwise a great phone. Wont be surprised if Google and HTC end up making changes in next batches silently.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
I got the launch day XL from Verizon and it suffered from this badly. I just received a regular Pixel yesterday, also from Verizon, and it does not flicker at all under identical circumstances. I think you're right.

-Collin-
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
I have seen this only on XL. On The 1080p screen of regular XL hasn't seen this being reported much.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Ah, thanks, did not know that. That would explain it :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jdb12345:
So I got my replacement yesterday and I waited a couple days to report. So far, no flicker. Sorry in advance to those who are still flickering with replacements, but at least there is hope maybe. Or mine could start flickering right after I post this. Good luck to all. This seems to be hardware so I would just keep trying. I just can't imagine it is good for the screen or battery.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
I had to make an account to post about this. I am an active member on Android Central when I saw a member post about this and then post this link. I too have the issue. I noticed it last night. When on the charger at 100% my screen flickers with adaptive brightness on and off. It also does it whether it is a dark screen or light screen. I am going to contact Verizon today and see what they can do.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] daniel4653:
I thought I was going crazy yesterday. I was charging up my 32 GB Black XL and noticed some flickering. Turned off the screen and turned it back on and it was still doing it. This was in low light (10pm with the lights off, and fully charged). I'm glad I remembered this thread.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
Not going crazy. I contacted Verizon and they can send me a like new certified refurbished device. I'm going to contact Google and see how far up the ladder I can get to see if it is for certain hardware or software.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jdb12345:
Well google was really tight lipped with me. Make sure you put your evidence together. The YouTube video from this thread, this thread, a couple on Reddit, and one on google groups pixel community. I'm on day 3 of no flicker with my replacement, so my 2 cents is hardware. Good luck.

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Not to sidetrack the thread, but just looking for thoughts. You can find several sources where the regular pixel only charges at 15W while the XL uses the 18W. This seems suspicious since only the XL is flickering. Any thoughts or am I out in left field?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] daniel4653:
i thought about contacting Verizon or google. But im afraid if they send me a replacement unit that is a Verizon variant that it will have the latest software that wont allow the use of dePixel8. November Patch.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
So is the screen flickering only when the device Is plugged in? I feel like I get a weird flicker from time to time. But it happens whenever I'm using the device. Doesn't matter what I'm doing its just random..... It usually happens right when I start using it and stops as long as I continue using the device
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
Verizon is sending me another device. I opted to have a certified like new because they said they are so new that they do not have any actual certified like new yet. He said they are the units that were opened and tested. I figure that may give me a good chance of getting one without issue. If I still have an issue I will be getting another replacement from them. For such an expensive phone I expect it to not have issues.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] zacelliott:
Glad i'm not the only one. Got my Pixel XL The other day and noticed one morning when checking Textra a weird flicker towards the top of the screen. This morning, I was checking the phone after I woke up and saw the same flicker in the same spot and towards the bottom. Unplugged it and it went away immediately. I really don't want to go through the RMA process, but if it's a legit hardware issue, I may have to.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MLGquickscoper:
Yep I don't have this issue. Hope this doesn't next note 7.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
I don't think that's the issue. I'm using a choetech 5 port charger. I'm in one of the smart ports that doesn't charge at 18 w and I'm having the same issues
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jdb12345:
I understand and had the same experience. I guess my thinking was whether it might have to do with the different components that allow it to charge at 9V. So not necessarily charging at the higher rate, but the hardware that allows it to. But the more I think about it the less likely I think that option is. The regular pixel also has the capability, they just decided not to use it. I just wish an answer would come out from somewhere. Google or otherwise. Good luck everyone and here's to hoping a software update can correct it!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] joshlubin:
Yeah right. Had two Bell XL's and I was like screw this. For 1050 Canadian no way in hell I'm keeping that faulty thing. I returned it to best buy and got the regular sized Rogers pixel 128gb. Was only 20 bucks cheaper than my 32gb xl lol. They come unlocked and the Canadian boxes aren't branded so it worked out great. Love it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Anyone get the November update? Are you still having the problem? I just got the update and had the phone one the charger for 20 minutes and all seemed fine....I think I need more time to test but wanted to know others experience
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] beastlykings:
Still on October, I'll report back when that changes though. Thanks for the update, keep us posted!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jjayzx:
Updated last night and still flickered this morning.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jblack41510:
Pixel XL NDE63V and still flicker
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] islamkozha:
coooool )
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
Yeah, update is not going to solve this. It's hardware related issue with charging circuit and trickle charging.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
I have my replacement on the way! Hopefully there's no problem
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
Got my replacement in. I will let y'all know how it does later. My replacement is build NDE63N. My original that had the issue was build NDE63P. Seems like a step back?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
I got new update to NDE63V
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Rafaeli11:
is this only a Pixel XL issue? Can someone confirm this happening on the regular Pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
So far only pixel XL seems to be affected.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Any issues with the new device? My replacement comes in tomorrow
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MrPixel01:
This morning I did not notice it. Hopefully it stays that way. I will look again when I charge to 100% tonight or in the morning.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Good luck. Hopefully it's just a bad batch of panels. Otherwise I'm really impressed with the build quality of the phone. Feels really solid and I have yet to scratch the back panel that's so easily scratched
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] resynx:
Noticed no flickering on mine this morning at 100% while plugged in. Just got my device yesterday :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Funkym0nkey:
So 3rd device and 3rd time same flicker. Eesh! :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] beastlykings:
Confirmed, NDE63V, November patch, still flickering. Oy..
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dermotti:
Just got my pixel yesterday. I havent noticed this at all. Was on L and just upgraded to V.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Got my replacement pixel xl yesterday and this morning I'm back to flickering. Is there a way to check the manufacturer date or as batch number to see when it was built..
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] androidNewb416:
Yikes...I have the same build and I have yet to experience any flickering. Now I'm getting a little worried....

I have yet to experience this flickering. I'm crossing my fingers.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mikeytusa:
Just got yet another replacement (2nd) from Google. Still doing the same thing. Wondering if this is more widespread and people just don't seem to notice it? I've found the best way for me to replicate the issue is to be plugged in, fully charged and be using Wifi. I can get it to flicker pretty consistently when Wifi is in use (by streaming a YouTube video or browsing around in the store).
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Plug it into the charger... Turn the brightness all the way down.... Let it charge to 100... Let it sit for thirty minutes on the charger.. Then check it out

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I'm on my second one. My guess is getting another isn't going to fix it I wonder if Google raises the minimum brightness just a hair it would alleviate the problem
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] zed011:
Got the same problem. Will wait a few months before requesting a replacement. Hopefully some new board revisions fix the issue down the board
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
That's probably a better solution no? These things are covered for a year right? I was thinking I was going to try for a third device and if that didn't work switch to the regular pixel since it doesn't have the same issue. I'm just hoping that it's a driver issue and will be fixed in a SW update
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dermotti:
Does it matter which charger i use? Ill try it and report back.

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Nvm. Yup mine has the flicker.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
I think all of them have it...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] zed011:
I checked that with moderate brightness it is not visible on lighter colours. Darker colours I can see flickering when plugged in. On the lowest brightness it's just about on the whole screen
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Do you have it plugged in? It worries me to see people having this problem with the phone unplugged
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] zed011:
Yes it is plugged in charged at 100%, isn't it what this thread is about? The flicker while at max charge
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Yes it is... But I think there are a few that have this problem while it's not plugged in....
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] rohit.sadhwani:
Auto Rotate Lag

Sorry for digressing from the thread topic.. just wanted to check if anyone is facing the screen rotation lag when device moved form landscape to portrait orientation or vice versa.. i experience this lag everywhere.. homescreen.. apps.. youtube.. etc. Let me know if there's something I can do about this
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
So after trying different things over the weekend... I've come to the conclusion That the screen flicker I suffer from only occurs when using live wallpapers. I used photos to set wallpapers this weekend and could not reproduce the problem. so this morning I switched back to a live wp... Turned my screen off then back on after 5 minutes and it came back. Now the odd part was when I went back to a static WP the problem persisted until I unplugged and plugged back in.... I've been plugged in for over an hour and I have yet to have any flickering with a static WP

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Sounds like there's something wrong.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dermotti:
I tried switching to a normal wallpaper and i could still see flickering on my translucent weather widget.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Smallsmx3:
Oh well. Is it only on the widget? I use a Google keep widget and I get a weird flicker every now and then. I think it's the widget refreshing itself or something because I used to get the same effect on my Nexus 6p