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[LG V20 Accessories] CollinFX45:
So far, my favorite are the Sennheiser IE800 (pretty pricey) and the MEE Audio Pinnacle P1. I especially love using my P1s because they are 50 ohms and upon plugging them in, the phone switches to "High Impedance Device" mode and can produce extremely loud volumes. Overall, it sounds very powerful and I really love the combination. They're super comfy and it is some serious audio quality for on the go use. It has made my portable DACs/amps irrelevant. Chord Mojo is just on home duty now.

-Collin-
[LG V20 Accessories] Madelynn28:
I use my wireless M-100's...
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Wolfson digital silence earbuds actually sound pretty damn good with the v20. Haven't sounded good on any phone, nor my JDS Labs C5D DAC amp.
[LG V20 Accessories] porscheoscar:
I tested out the QC 35 Bluetooths for $350. Impressive... no doubt the best Bluetooth headphones out. The Sense Momentums are probably #2. But... The bass is on Bose Bluetooths is nowhere near the wired Bose units. The bass on those is so tight...those guys know what they're doing...and noise canceling unlike most other cans in the price range. Nobody does noise canceling like Bose.
[LG V20 Accessories] Dartin Bout:
May I recommend LGs HSB 1100 as both it and the LG V20 support APT X HD. It is the BT solution of my current collection.

Samsung Level ON & U Pro

Bragi Dash

Vmoda wireless

I tried the Led Zep II 24\96 with every common player and the native LG Music player sounds best with HSB 1100.
[LG V20 Accessories] qs504792:
my ha sz2000s should be here by the end of the month. will check in when they get here
[LG V20 Accessories] mingkee:
Do you have Koss Porta Pro?

Try it.

The volume is much louder and it sounds exceptional.

However, Bose Sound Sport sounds like junk. You should turn DAC off with it.
[LG V20 Accessories] Sisyphus306:
I'll be rockin' Bang & Olufsen H6 2nd Gens.
[LG V20 Accessories] cmart4:
seinnheiser in ear momentum sound pretty great, even if they are not exactly high end. also have some bose over the ear that sound great too.

i do have average joe ears tho!
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
I would think the better headphones that rake advantage of the DAC and amp would be any worse that is over 60ohms. The reason I say 60 is headroom. The high impedance mode kicks in for 50-300 ohm headsets but if you're are rated very close to 50 it might not kick in because of variance and variables. Your 50ohm headset might only register 48 ohms and not kick in the higher mode.
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
I just replaced my BD 770 Pro's 250 ohm with the ATH-MSR7NC that is rated at 150 Ohms (active). I find the high end still distinct but less clinical then the BD's. If you are expecting to hear a difference in audio on this phone, with anything less then 50 ohm's, and using the stock app, you will be disappointed.
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Didn't like the dt770 pro or just wanted something different.?
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
I liked the BD DT770 Pro's fine but I thought the the Sabre DAC had more potential. I didn't want to buy another set of headphones online, without listening to them first as I had with the Sony 7506 and these.

With further research, I thought the ATH-MSR7NC might reveal more of what the DAC could do and I found a local brick and mortar that would let me listen to them in an A -B comparison. WOW! A depth of field and sound stage like nothing I've ever heard before. They are 150 OHMS and allow louder volume and a spacial environment the BD DT770's didn't have.

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/70fcffbb14c297c5/index.html
[LG V20 Accessories] eventhorizon13:
How does the bass and sub-bass compare between the two? What where the ohms of the 770's?
[LG V20 Accessories] pieces of cake:
I think you mean impedence. ;)
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
The bass and sub-bass were acceptable in both. Balanced and not weighted in any way I could hear. It was the high end\upper registers of the DT770's (250 Ohm's), I took exception with. Crystalline clear but kind of fragile and it seemed to flirt with shrillness and sibilance. The ATX's (150 Ohm's) sound to me as if they have an extension in the upper registers that aren't so abrupt in transition. This may purely be this phone and these headphones but I think (for now) this is a good match. I can say that when I used the BD' with my modified Auzentech X-Meridian soundcard, I had no such complaints. The ATX's distorted grossly with the same set up. Since I don't have to use headphones at home I kept the ATX's.

Like wine and food, being flexible in the pairings, should produce serendipitous results.
[LG V20 Accessories] Byte_76:
Has anyone tried the 1More Triple Driver in-ear earphones?

https://usa.1more.com/products/triple-driver-in-ear-headphones

I'm wondering if it's worthwhile buying them.
[LG V20 Accessories] eventhorizon13:
Here check this http://www.head-fi.org/t/808683/1more-e1001-triple-driver-in-ear-headphones-review out
[LG V20 Accessories] vibrantliker:
I have the DT770 80 ohms on the way. Will they work ok on this phone w/out an amp?
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Yep.
[LG V20 Accessories] vibrantliker:
Thanks. Was that answering me?
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Yep.

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My DT770 250ohms sound great on this phone.
[LG V20 Accessories] Bread Bucket:
I am currently using a pair of Campfire Audio Jupiters which are 34 ohm, and I honestly can't decide whether I like the Quad DAC on or off for them. Off seems to have a slightly wider soundstage and less muddled, but with slightly more sibilance on the treble. On seems warmer, but with less definition and a narrower soundstage. But for my VE monk-plus, which are 64 ohm, the high impedance Quad DAC is a huge improvement; those sounded like garbage on my Galaxy S6.

As an aside, the CA Jupiters are notoriously sensitive and I don't get any hissing on the line. Really great hardware isolation from LG, even some high quality external DACs hiss with the Jupiters, so I am impressed on that front.
[LG V20 Accessories] pieces of cake:
I tried to resist posting this, but I just cannot help myself. Variance in headphone soundstage does not exist. There's really no such thing. In car and home audio, it absolutely does. In headphones, it does not.
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
I finally received my my Sennheiser 598c. Wow. Liked the sound as soon as I put on. Let it play for 4h while watched civil war again. Came back and wow. Very full sound. Just right on the bass, mids and slightly recessed highs. Kind of like the H3s but fuller sound.
[LG V20 Accessories] BROKEN1981:
You know people will call you stupid for speaking the truth.
[LG V20 Accessories] shrimants:
using rha t10i. havent listened to music yet, but i HEAVILY listen to audiobooks (in crap-tier quality, mind you). coming from a gs7e, the audio was very hissy and difficult to listen to. cymbals and the letter S and other sounds like that were extremely harsh. the gs7e had a volume issue where i'd need to crank volume up to the second to last "notch". this volume was not quite loud enough for audiobooks. the loudest setting (one higher) was too loud. similar case for music, though it was 3rd and 2nd to last notches.

though i havent listened to music yet, i can tell the audiobook sound quality is great (same book). no more tinny hissiness and the headphones finally seem to be driven correctly.
[LG V20 Accessories] Bread Bucket:
I'm not going to assume what headphones either of you listen to, or their quality, but if you have ever listened to say, a pair of HD800 you will definitely experience a wide soundstage. It is a silly statement to say that headphones don't have soundstage, any sound piped into a chamber produces a soundstage. A concert hall will sound different than a small room because of the size and acoustics of the chamber. Headphones are no different. It is pretty ignorant to say something does not exist simply because you have yet to experience it, let alone proclaim it as the "truth"

Yes, headphones lack the crossover of speakers, but they can still adjust spacial reproduction through distance of driver to ear (further the distance to increase stage), size of enclosure (bigger enclosure/room increases air and stage), and angle of the driver. I won't disagree that speakers will nearly always have a "superior" soundstage, but It's a difference in degree, not in kind.
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
You forgot to mention ear sizes, shapes, possibly hair, type of pads used, open or closed and consistent placement or lack of that will affect the stage.
[LG V20 Accessories] mingkee:
Most of us never heard this model as it's short lived (2007-2008)

AKG K24P

The sound is top notch for the price with V10 and V20.

It's not just have bass, but all the spectrum is well balanced.

I have it and it's modified with cable from Samsung HS130 to add microphone/remote function.

I wish AKG will sell it again as it's simply the best on traditional headband type.
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
'Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Headphone 250 ohms' would these work rather than the 80 ohms one? I ask because they are a lot cheaper in price on amazon.ca. :confused:

Edit: Can get these at a great price, 40 Ohms. Audio Technica ATH-AVC400 Good plan?

Second edit: Can get DT 990 PRO 250 ohms used for $130 Canadian used, take my phone when I go to buy them, play a 24 bit 96 khz music file (and yes, I know it downsamples to 48 kHz) and make sure they are wracked from playing too loud or anything. :D
[LG V20 Accessories] jameslapc2:
My AKG Q701 headphones really benefit from the DAC. I also managed to get Viper to work with the DAC so you know how I'm feeling about it.
[LG V20 Accessories] mingkee:
Sennheiser HD558.

I didn't like it because the sound is "recessed" with other phones, but it sounds fantastic with V20 playing with 192k ogg files.

The sounds is smooth and you can feel the "air".
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
Shure SRH750DJ are only 32 Ohm impedance. Would they trigger the quad DAC and high impedance mode?
[LG V20 Accessories] watsinaname:
Would it be possible that the same pair of headphones triggers High Impedance once and not the next time, I have the Sennheiser HD 429, yesterday on connection it said High Impedance, however today on connection, it just said Normal Mode.
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
Decided on Sennheiser 598 SE, $120 CAD from a guy used them once for a review, still has the two year warranty. Read good things about them here and with 50 Ohm impedance I'm sure they'll trigger the quad DAC. :D
[LG V20 Accessories] Droidforce:
Is there a phone compatible cable that can be used with them

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I don't think they are 50ohm
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/audio-headphones-high-end-surround-sound-hd-598

They are 50 Ohm and always trigger the Quad DAC when plugged in. ;)
[LG V20 Accessories] Droidforce:
Sorry.... I was thinking of the CS model

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Do you know if a mic cable will work with these

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Is the battery replaceable?

That's the only thing holding me back from buying these. They are on sale for 219.00
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
No, but the battery is only for the ANC. The ATX-MSR7NC is perfectly capable without it, to play hi-res, with it turned off. The $219 is a great price (I paid $299 at a brick and mortar). I've been shivering with joy ever since, when listening to the V20.
[LG V20 Accessories] Droidforce:
Thanks for your reply and I'm probably going to purchase but I would feel better if I knew down the line that it could be replaced... Maybe not by me but by Audio Technica assuming it doesn't cost 50 percent of the purchase price
[LG V20 Accessories] Droidforce:
BTW how do you like the noise cancelation? It gets knocked a bit in the reviews and not worth the price difference over the regular 7s but I think at the current sale price it's only 30 dollars difference so it should be worth it even if it's not as good as Bose. My main reason for wanting these they will trigger the high impedance on the V20
[LG V20 Accessories] Droidforce:
I'm reading the product manual and they spec at 30ohms passive and 150 active.

Does that mean they are only 30ohms with NC off?
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
I flew to Memphis a few weeks ago and ran the ANC the entire time. I have not tried the BOSE Q25-35, so can't compare. I do have the Samsung Level On Pro's but never flew with them to compare ANC. That said, between the passive and active NC, I enjoyed the flight immensely, primarily due to the combination of the V20's Hi-Res playback and the ATH-MSR7NC's performance. Using actual headphones, that have sufficient impedance, is the only way to go. Tricking the DAC to flip on the high impedance is a waste of time (IMHO after testing a couple of different methods).
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
Yes, but the battery only charges the ANC and I've never had it drain completely, despite using it for commute and around town. I charge it, maybe, once a week. Once the High Impedance DAC is triggered, with it on, I can't tell the difference in sound quality between off and on. It just stays on High.
[LG V20 Accessories] aneeshprasobhan:
May be the V20 is not driving M50X because in the options, its mentioned that impedence ranging from 50Ω to 600Ω will get a boost. The M50x have only 38Ω. So may be thats the reason.
[LG V20 Accessories] inversvs:
Rocking Sony MDR-V55s from a few years ago. 40 Ohm frequency. Coming from phones with very weak amps, I'd have to crank the volume up to 80% before getting decent sound. Now, 35-40% is good enough. The DAC has really upped the quality of the music I listen too. Everything is crystal clear with no distortion.
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
Thought the full DAC doesn't cut in until you use headphones with 50 Ohm impedance and higher. :confused:
[LG V20 Accessories] inversvs:
It may not be the full DAC, after reading through the comments it doesn't seem like it. The Hi-Fi icon shows up in my status bar while listening to music.
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
I have a question. I'm using HD 598 SE headphones. I'm listening to 24 bit flac with PowerAmp Beta. Using the SOX resampler it says under Headphones/Aux 16 bit 48 kHz. Under the song info it says it's a 24 bit flac. Is it actually playing in 24 bit and if not what do I need to change so it does?
[LG V20 Accessories] krumbs:
If you are looking for a wireless option, the LG Tone Active+ is pretty good. It supports APTX HD, and I actually found the sound to be more detailed than the B&O earphones that came with the phone. Another interesting feature are the built-in speakers, which are decent enough for audiobooks and speakerphone calls.

http://www.lg.com/us/bluetooth-headsets-headphones/lg-HBS-A100-Black-Gray-tone-active-plus
[LG V20 Accessories] maximo86:
I have a Grado SR325is and i like so much
[LG V20 Accessories] vibrantliker:
I have the ATH-MSR7. They're the best headphones I've had so far. I had various Sennheisers and Beyers to compare to & to me these are great!
[LG V20 Accessories] Pings:
I have started my collection some time ago. All sound really for the most part. I have the Sennheiser HD6XX, Sennheiser HD598SE, AKG K7XX, AKG 593 Pro, AKG M220, HifiMan HE350. Some of these are harder to push for what their impedance is so I had to find some workarounds. But all and all no need for an amp.
[LG V20 Accessories] spiderx_mm:
I'm thinking about getting a Marshall Major II (without Bluetooth). Has anyone got any experience with that headphone?
[LG V20 Accessories] porscheoscar:
I'm using the V-Moda M100. The cool thing about the DAC on the V20 is that you can turn it off which I do to use my old FiiO Kunlun DAC. It's a noticeable difference but if I don't have the FiiO with me the V20 DAC drives the headphones better than any other phone on the market. The other phone with a decent DAC from HTC now no longer has an audio out jack... The V20 has become the only Audiophile option. The Bluetooth Bose QC 35 have great sound but I find their sound to be overkill....in the wallet!!
[LG V20 Accessories] othermark:
I'm sure most of you know the Sennheiser HD280 Pros you just cannot go wrong with for the price. I own 4 pairs!
[LG V20 Accessories] alexsoin:
I'm pretty sure that any pair of decent headphones will sound very good or even great on LG V20 with its 24-bit DAC! I had very pleasant experience with every wired headsets I had: over-ear Shure 880, on-ear Sammy Level On, in-ear B&O H3 and even some cheappo stuff like basic crApple EarPods and Sammy S6 Stock Earbuds sounded better and richer than say with iPhone 6 or Galaxy S6. Just don't forget to turn Hi-Fi ON! Good thing that w/o root, mods and any equaliser changes V20's DAC provides well-balanced and natural sound! Bad thing is that Bluetooth audio is quite so so and even aforementioned iPhone and S6 pair and play better in on-a-go (gym, running, walking) situations where cable will be cumbersome. One bluetooth headset (truly wireless SmartOmi) was always skipping on a guest earbud, Sammy Level On were so flat and undetailed I always had to connect it with a cable after a minute of wireless listening... iPhone and S6 are slightly better in this regard, still bad tho and OK only for quick 30 minute listening experiences anyways :)
[LG V20 Accessories] scheawckie:
i've bought v20 for many reasons, and surely high audio quality expectation was one of them. I've got Bang & Olufsen A8 Earphones which sounded OK but not much exiting because thet are earbuds only, so I decided to buy something more serious and ended up buying Panasonic HT-680 full size over-ear headphones with 50mm drivers for 40 usd. It is a little bit disappointing that it shows Normal Audio device when connected to hi-fi dac, because of its impedance being 32 ohms i think. i am listening to music at 60% volume generally but there are times when 75% volume level is not enough, so i managed to pass this issue through by using vls media player which allows me to increase the volume over 75% whenever needed. i enjoyed my 24bit janis joplin, thelonious monk, muse albums or 320kps hi online or link radio streaming as well as nicole moudaber streaming at 192kps at mixcloud. i am happy with my lg, my previous model g4 was great at everything other than audio and battery life. now life with v20 is great.
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Not 100% sure it playing at that rate but there you go. Since update loudspeaker sounds much better and cleaner. Headphone improvement I don't know because it still sounds great. Update supposedly included audio patch but don't know what for.
[LG V20 Accessories] dartinbout:
I just took delivery of a used set of Sennheiser HD 650's for use with my home system through a dac. It's wonderful. While I was doing an AXB and was using my ATH-MSR7NC. I tried the HD650 with the V20 directly. Wow! The 300 ohm really lit up the DAC. I have been messing with the Black Player and some 24\192 files. I was very excited to hear what the phone could with do with high end ingredients. The V20 drove the 650 flawlessly. I hope, to whatever deity is responsible, that either the G6 or the S8 has as good a dac as this.
[LG V20 Accessories] stemplar007:
PowerAMP player V3. less than 50 ohm headphones. eg MSR7, ATH-AD900x, HighGain trick (extender as sending impedanicia increasing) does not say anything nicer. Perfect DAP.
[LG V20 Accessories] BROKEN1981:
You need 50+ to get the phone to say high impedance
[LG V20 Accessories] scheawckie:
Panasonic HT-680

i am not sure why you need high impedance since impedance is not a factor affecting the sound quality. My Panasonic HT-680 was a bargain by the way.
[LG V20 Accessories] BROKEN1981:
I think most people think higher the volume,the better it sounds. Not sure why.
[LG V20 Accessories] scheawckie:
vs iphone 7 plus

today i compared my v20 to an iphone 7 plus, put the same mixcloud stream on both phones, used the same wired headphones switching between them, the result was not approving lg's 4 dac whatsoever hi-fi claims. iphone sounded richer in the details and the sound environment. i am really disappointed .
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
Mmmmmkkay.
[LG V20 Accessories] mingkee:
There's a reason why I buy 2 Sony ST-H30 after bought one.

It isn't audiophile or top tier sound, but if you love rock or folk rock, you will definitely love this little bud.

It has a lot of bass but it doesn't flood the spectrum.

It's a good surprise.
[LG V20 Accessories] shadowxaero:
It can be a factor in sound quality.

I am simplifying but low impedance requires low voltage but high current to power. The higher current can easily lead to distortion, noise, and inaccurate bass reproduction. Especially at higher volumes.

High impedance high voltage lower current. So they are harder drive sure but as a result don't suffer from as much distortion and noise.

Also the fact that it is harder to blow high impedance cans is enough for some.

Also if you take a look at some tube amplifiers you notice those things carry a crap ton of voltage. A par of low impedance cans don't have enough resistance and the voltage would fry them fairly quickly.

Q701 user here btw and the v20 does a decent job with them.
[LG V20 Accessories] fthahim:
using H6

I am using the B&O H6 , although they do not turn on the high impedance mode , I can hear a considerable difference by switching on the DAC in the settings , I also had the V-Moda M100 and they did not sound that great , my experience with the H6 listening to Tidal in HIFI mode has been excellent , I am looking forward to buying a higher impedance headphone and thinking about some Beyerdynamics but not too familiar with them , I mainly listen to Hip Hop , but also listen to the likes of Santana and mix of other music , I do appreciate the clean non bloated Bass and clean non recessed mids although my main Genre is Hip hop , not sure if I should get 80ohms or the dac could drive 250 okay . my budget is under $200 , any suggestion are very welcome .
[LG V20 Accessories] @rbiter:
If you want beyerdynamic cans I recommend the customer one pros, 16 ohms so anything can power it. Has bass modes too and a very fun sounding headphone. Or the DT770 PRO 250 ohms. If you get a powerful enough amp it'll make your chest rattle. I haven't tested the 770s yet with bass. I'm a casual listener so I will get around to it.
[LG V20 Accessories] scheawckie:
beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro

i am also doing similar research, check this out : https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic...ional-Acoustically-Applications/dp/B0011UB9CQ
[LG V20 Accessories] KedarWolf:
I bought Sennheiser 598 SE's from Craiglist used, lucked out, got a pair in perfect condition. They trigger high impedance mode and the only headphones I've ever owned that sounded better were Sony studio quality headphones I had in 2005 that cost $500. I paid $110 CAD which is like 48 cents USD. ;)
[LG V20 Accessories] stemplar007:
I like the Audiotechnica ATH-AD900X (35 ohm) .Illetve an Audiotechnica ATH-MSR7 (38 ohm) With Poweramp v3. + High Gain trick. Connected to the same trick by which the V10 can be placed HighGain. I think everyone is familiar with. You do not need root. An extender and a 75-ohm impedance adapter to be just.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/816024/lightbox/post/13222940/id/1807671[/IMG]
[LG V20 Accessories] vibrantliker:
I have the ATH-MSR7's. Best headphones I've owned yet. I know after time I'll wonder what's better!
[LG V20 Accessories] jameslapc2:
The Q701's by AKG sound like angels singing on this device. Couldn't come up with a better analogy lol.