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[LG V20 Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
Camera is good

But i had nexus 6p and cam was way better

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I don't know the problem is

But auto mod is very slow indoors

And pictures not great lile my old nexus 6p

And using manual mode is hard

I love to have point and shoot camera

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Image processing is soft
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
If you are rooted you can enable ZSL and the camera in auto is fast. Automatic mode is not very good and the software applies way too much noise reduction and all. But the camera itself is way better than the 6P's. If you want good P&S automatic, then you need a different phone I think.

But for manual mode shooting it is superb. And manual mode is not that difficult. I don't get why everything thinks this to be the case.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
how can i enable zsl with root?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
in your build.prop, find the line with camera.disable_zsl_mode=0 . change the 0 to a 1 and reboot.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
It is already 1
[LG V20 Real Life Review] netgar:
What does it do?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
er sorry. I meant change it from 1 to 0. that'll enable zero shutter lag
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
It make the shutter time zero lag
[LG V20 Real Life Review] stanglifemike:
I haven't noticed that. In fact, I've been impressed by the results while zoomed in. I've been really happy with all aspects of the cameras on the V20, as they're much better then what I had anticipated. And while the quality may not be quite up to the Note 7, I'm thoroughly pleased.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] androiddiego:
I took two photos today on a bright sunny day in Tucson, AZ first in auto mode and then in Manual with the lowest ISO setting (50) and the manual mode definitely produced and cleaner crisper photo. The only problem I have found with manual mode is that I can't force the flash on. I think that is because in low light you would be using a higher ISO setting, so it is not an option. Anyway, in manual mode you can select the ISO setting you would choose if using a real camera and get the same result. Very nice.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] kparikh82276:
I have read and seen reviews of the manual mode. But I'm not a photographer and I only have one shot chance at times. So auto mode that's accurate would be helpful.

I came from Samsung note 4 and seriously the auto mode on that is awesome, just wished lg would do something like that.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] zara1:
With good lighting,
[LG V20 Real Life Review] spiderx_mm:
I'm not sure what you mean by 'i can't force the flash on in manual mode. actually, manual mode even have extra flash option. In auto mode, you can only choose flash on/ off/ auto. In manual, you can choose flash on/ off/ red-eye/ auto. isn't it?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Indeed, the flash is able to be forced on in either mode.

As for the flash option in manual with the R, that is actually rear curtain flash. Normal flash on all cameras fires at the beginning of an exposure. This fires it at the end of the exposure. If you're going to use flash for certain, I would suggest rear curtain flash. Here's why: The best example of the difference in flash timing is a car pulling away with its tail lights on. Normal flash would give you a car in the foreground with two red streaks taking off. It's going to look weird. With rear curtain, you will get two red streaks leading up to a car that's driving away. This would be much more natural. All of my dedicated cameras are set to rear curtain flash as it just makes a lot more sense. It's pretty cool that LG went as far as to include this as an option on a phone.

As for the quality of the cameras on this phone, I'm pretty pleased with the main. It turns out really great images. The wide is a bit gimmicky due to its distortion. I think I'd prefer to use pano when I can. The selfie camera.... well, it's a selfie camera. I've never been a fan of them and I'm still not. People can try to brag about them on iPhones or Samsungs but the fact is that by their very build, they all suck. No idea why anyone would use them for portraiture. Just use the main with voice shutter turned on.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] androiddiego:
You are right my friend. I don't know why the flash symbol was grayed out, but it's working just fine now.

Thanks.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] StarCommand:
Compared to Iphones, its not as good. To put it simply. But that's not to say it takes anything close to bad pictures.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] spiderx_mm:
Maybe it is because your battery is low.

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I see. That's quite interesting. I remembered I've used the rear-curtain mode when I was using some old DSLR. but I forgot it quite a long time ago. This flash mode would be a lot useful. Thanks for pointing out.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] spiderx_mm:
Yes, setting HDR=On also forced the flash to be disabled.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Albanian_Beast:
Is it just me or does anyone else thing that the v10 took better pictures then the v20 does. I also had a g5 and i thought the g5 was horrible at taking pictures. too much noise in the picture. the v20 is alot better at noise reduction but man the v10, thing was an animal. To me, the best camera phone i have ever seen was the v10.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] gustav30:
LG stopped using the IMX234 sony sensor that they used in the G4, V10 and G5. I agree in indoors the 234 was a bit better capturing detail without more ISO. I have both phones right now and often compare same shot. What the V20 does in iso500 the V10 would do in 275. But the 234 sensor didn't have the phase detection auto focus and perhaps LG wanted that for specs. The V20 can be just as good but really have to work for it more in manual.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Zeromus2003:
Do you think the LG-G6 will be better in the camera department? Just curious.....
[LG V20 Real Life Review] gustav30:
Hard to say at this point. I think they will be in par with each other. The sensor in the G6 is the Sony IMX258 which was released back in 2015 and the pixel size is 1.12 μm. Same as V20 and the V10 before. Its a 13mp vs 16. Think it all comes down to LG's processing and noise reduction. Feel like there is a reason they haven't jumped on the bigger pixel bandwagon that Apple/Google/HTC/Samsung have adopted.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
I've been pretty happy with the primary rear sensor. The IMX298 isn't the best ever but it does damn well. I can't wait to see what phone cams are like in another 5 years. I plan on using the V20 for that long at least.

They are all far crisper than these resized versions show :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] badohn:
Shifting focus over to the camera, LG’s software is essentially the same (read: excellent) as you’ll find in its other recent phones
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Only time I have ever noticed this was on the wide angle lens which isn't quite as good as the main camera.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Considering the V20. Some of the camera reviews are mentioning purple fringing. Anyone noticing that ?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Daaayuuummm! I've been slacking. Those are some pretty awesome shot, phone or not.

I haven't but I also tend to not shoot in conditions that produce those kinds of conditions as it doesn't make for very good photos no matter what camera I'd be using.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Thanks :P

Here's some I have taken the past few days.

Also, I created a telegram group for mobile photography: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEHBqf5pYnVh6NhMYw
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
And apparently it ate half my attachments.. heh
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Just got the phone a day ago and still setting up and working it and comparing with my Mate 9.

Haven't had much time to play yet, but I'm liking the camera so far.

These are tiny flowers, slightly larger than my thumbnail.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Nice! Very good focus. Those are similar to the flowers I took pics of in my above post :)

Here are some I took yesterday.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Love the focus peaking on the V20. :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Tiny flowers. Liking the macro ability and especially focus peaking on this camera. These are a little larger than a green pea.

Very windy yesterday so these were hard to catch.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] railshot:
In order to remedy bad/inconsistent performance in Auto mode, has anyone considered trying a third party camera app?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] paok4270:
how is camera comapred to g5?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Third party apps work well enough but only have access to the normal cameras and not the wide angle.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Actually Hypocam ( from the play store ) a nice B&W camera app, will cycle through all 3 cameras with the switch camera toggle.

It's a nice camera app for B&W photos. Even allows you to add "grain" to your photos, matching some if the various actual films.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Still playing around with the focus peaking. Really like that.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rick09:
Such an awesome feature isn't it?! Seriously impressed they included that! Does any other smartphone maker offer that? I've played around with a lot of flagship phones and I've never seen it offered.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rick09:
I wanted to get some opinions on these. Been playing around with one of those clip on macro lenses and I think it managed some impressive shots. Not excellent but the lens isn't high dollar and the extremely low depth-of-field makes focusing (and holding focus to press the shutter) pretty difficult.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rick09:
First 2 are of a wire wheel. Others are letters from the back of a credit card, stylus tip, side of a US quarter, Eagle from back side of a US $1 bill. I know I need more interesting subject matter but figured it would be best to practice on inanimate objects first.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
It's a good start. Hard part of macro is holding steady enough to control that shallow DOF. There's a really good reason why focusing rails were developed but I think just getting a decent support like a cellphone tripod mount is a good idea. (Even if you're not doing macro, it'll be useful.)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Not too bad for starters. :) As CHH2 mentioned, maybe consider a cheap cell phone tripod. I have one with a bt remote that fires the shutter without touching the camera. Good for close work. Focus the camera, then give it a second or two for motion to settle and then make the photo with the remote.

Shallow DOF is always present as the subject gets closer and closer to life size on the sensor. Doesn't matter if a macro lens is used and shoved almost against the subject or if a very long (telephoto) lens is used to bring the subject closer.

Another option for macro work is to make the photo as close as you can focus ( or almost ) without a add on lens, then crop the photo after it's made. Even the photo gallery on the phone has a crop function.

Here's a 150% crop. See the little guy on the flower petal ? I was just messing still with this new phone and playing with the focus peaking. This is a tiny flower, slightly larger than my thumb nail. Hand held shot and I was having a bit of a hard time because of the stiff breeze, but it's not too bad, all things considered. I didn't even notice the very tiny insect on the flower when I made the photo. It was only after when I was back inside looking at the photos. :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Here's the original, uncropped, photo.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Lasmcter:
Each of my a new cell phone.What I'm concerned about most is the pixel, image quality
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
Read up a little on this feature but basically it provides a visual on what subject the camera is actually focusing on. Is there anything more to it or any little nuances about the feature?? Definitely a lot of cool features for the manual camera, especially with the higher quality audio and microphones.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
It just helps you see exactly what is in focus. Nice to have. One of my DSLR cameras has focus peaking also.

Here are a few more.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
And another. Love the focus peaking.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] EMJI79:
Bof
[LG V20 Real Life Review] mrleo9891:
Yeah !!
[LG V20 Real Life Review] kparikh82276:
Can you explainthis bit more...is this a function that needs to be enabled or is it something that is already on?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
Go to manual mode and ser ti MF (manual focus) now there is a slider for focus. When you move the slider and an object is in focus you'll see little green lines on all parts of anything in focus. Make sure the "focus peaking" is turned on (button right above the focus slider).

Here's a screen shot. See the thin green lines of the area of the note pad that's in focus. When you take a picture the green lines are not in the photo.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] xxdunker:
These are the best pictures I have ever taken in my life. I haven't even taken pictures like this with my Nikon d7000.

Manual mode 30sec exposure and 50 iso.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Whoa! That head on shot is pretty good no matter what camera it was taken with. What was your light source?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] xxdunker:
Almost no light there. Had a phone light to light up the truck. Just did a little light painting.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
those are gorgeous!
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Here's some of my recent ones. I managed to catch a cardinal in flight. ^_^

Then my beloved 1981 Rabbit Diesel rather heavily edited, a beautiful ratrod downtown in my little city, and some shutter speed manipulated sunlight on a tree.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
I created a Telegram group. Everyone feel free to join: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEHBqf5pYnVh6NhMYw
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Some more recent pics
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
more
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
last one :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] xxdunker:
Here's a few more. Gonna go back out soon and take some more. Got myself a phone mount tripod to make it a whole lot easier
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
niiice. I bought a beastgrip when it was on sale. Gotta get the DOF adapter soon so I can use SLR lenses. But just being able to use a tripod is fantastic.

Those photos are really nice :D I love the angles.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] kparikh82276:
I'm having a heck of a time with getting the right exposure for a good photo ? shot.

Seen people use manual mode but any guidance that would benefit this novice to get great photos?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Not really the right place to ask this. This is the review section, not the ask question section.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Partyzane:
Professional photographer here :)

Got this phone a couple of days ago. Vere pleased with the camera. But got a nasty bug with the wide angle camera when shooting raw (dng). When i open the files in Lightroom the white balance is completely off . the pics are purple and it's very difficult to adjust it properly. Has anyone else got this problem?

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[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Ask over in the question and answer section and I'll try to help you there.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] anilkumar121989:
guys. I am looking to buy this phone based on its camera and audio. How are these two things in daily life ? especially camera in less light and indoors ?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Well, you are posting in a thread that's supposed to be entirely about reviews of the photo quality of the V20. So that's a good start to read through this. Outside of that, I will say if you are really worried about photo quality indoors in low light, the right tool for the right job is not any cellphone camera. Period. If that's really important to you, then I'd pick up a dedicated camera with a decent sized sensor and some decently fast glass. Other than that, as far as cellphones go, I've been really happy with shots from the main camera in dark concert venues and jazz clubs.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] anilkumar121989:
Thanks..
[LG V20 Real Life Review] shokuhawan:
Cons:

- Focus is bad, slower than S7

- Low light focus is terrible, unacceptable

- Slow apps open when screen turned off

- Save picture slowly

- Auto mode is not really good

- I found the highlight area usally get brighten out

Cons:

- Picture Quality is excellent

- Dual Camera quite handy, you can produce unique angle

- RAW for love, Manual focus for life

- VIdeo recording with sounds are unbelievable

My Thoughts?

I love my V20 camera for traveling. A bit slow but acceptable for me.

Also, shooting Raw when possible
[LG V20 Real Life Review] jamebarron88:
I'm curious for opinions. From a purely technical standpoint which of the photos is better? Untouched version or photo tweaked using Snapseed? Order of photos: original, edited.

A few changed orientations after uploading. I'm not sure why.

All taken in manual mode, RAW, no flash, manual focus iso and s, held in hand.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] reaverclan:
I personally like the RAW's the edited seem way to sharp and you seem to be losing some detail especially in the shadows.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] KUSOsan:
I actually think the edited ones look a little better although the raws look more natural. Especially with the water how it took a lot of the glare off and there's a lot of detail that shows up. I do agree that the edited ones are much too sharp and if you toned it down quite a bit it would look much better. They look like 2 completely different pictures except for the last 2 sets. Pretty amazing what you can do with photo editing eh?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] anilkumar121989:
Holy sh*t. So good! And crocs? So cool! Good job bro. And edited look a bit better.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Agent3:
These are my best, shot and edited using RAW (and then decompress to upload)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Those are gorgeous. Are you using any extra hardware or just the phone + tripod?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Agent3:
Thank you! I used a variable ND filter on both pictures and a tripod of course.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] XxReApErxX:
Just a picture of my not so amused cat.

Enviado desde mi LG-H990 mediante Tapatalk
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
ah ok. I need to get some ND filters :D

please join us on telegram! I created a group for phone and similar photography: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEHBqf5pYnVh6NhMYw
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Billy Madison:
How can I install camera ver. 6.0.81.5-xpirt ported from LG G6, to not mess with old stock V20 camera? In case G6's port will fail and I would want to revert back to 5.30.61.7?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] CHH2:
You should probably ask in a post that isn't in the reviews section.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Billy Madison:
And where it is?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] rubiicon59:
1,032 posts and you're asking that???
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
here're some of my latest pics
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Partyzane:
Who shoots DNG and does editing in Lightroom Mobile or Snapseed?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
I do.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] razzorchile:
LG H990DS , automatic mode, wide angule camera, +HDR :D
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Nice! I love the field and cow one especially.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Fred98TJ:
I do
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Greatness83:
Lagoon by my house with sunset overlooking Brigantine

View with casino's in the back

Lunch
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Partyzane:
I shoot DNG and do Lightroom editing too. Sorry for large pictures, I can't attach files to my messages yet :)

1st and 2nd shots are done with circular polarizing and gradient filters.

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[LG V20 Real Life Review] HD2FORNICK:
I shot these in Manual/DNG and processed them in Lightroom. The camera is not bad but has limitations. I shot them at ISO 50 as even at ISO 200 it starts adding noise in the dark areas. For a phone sensor, I like the DR and I could have lifted the shadows even more but it looks unnatural.

The camera has a tendency to blow highlights very easily and therefore if you underexpose you should be fine or live with blown highlights. The WB is so-so as it needs some play in LR.

What impressed me is the Image Stabilization. Even at ISO 50, I got some crisp shots and the other thing that impressed me is the sharpness. You can see the detail in grass and the leaves on trees stand out individually. I am sure there are better phone cameras than this one but for me I use a DSLR for my main photography and this is not a bad pinch hitter. I will post some more shots later with the super wide angle lens but I already know it is going to be severely limited.

Combine a decent camera with a uber audio player and I think I am good till the V30 comes out. BTW, I am on Sprint and purchased this phone in Mint condition for $219 on Ebay. At that price I have nothing to complain. :D

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[LG V20 Real Life Review] ClaimConsultantsllc:
After reading all of your view I am going to buy such phone. i think its the best phone in term of camera or any other specification.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Gorgeous! Can you give a run down of the hardware you use? Are you using physical filters? How are you mounting them?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] helf:
Some recent photos I've taken with it. I haven't been able to spend as much time as I would like on my photography lately. And I still need to get some filters and what not. Hopefully soon :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] razzorchile:
San Antonio Bay, Chile.

Auto Mode , HDR, Stock Camera.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] kparikh82276:
The more I use the phone the more I regret getting it just because of the quality of photos it takes.

Many have pointed out the quality is good but for me it's a hit or a miss.

Moving objects I don't even bother, if it's not blurry I'll keep it, but I'll have 1 or 2 pictures that I'll have to delete. I have to remind myself to take more then one shot.

I've seen everyone's posting and quality of picture...I am amazed. I have yet to have one like those. And what about zoom..if you zoom is it that clear?
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Partyzane:
More pics

Hey helf,

are you asking me? :)
[LG V20 Real Life Review] HD2FORNICK:
Most pictures you see here are taken manual mode in raw format and later processed. Keep the ISO at 100 or 50. Also moving subjects with a phone is asking too much
[LG V20 Real Life Review] kparikh82276:
Thanks for the tip,

I'm coming from note 4....Samsung has over all done real well with the camera ? functions on their phone. I feel LG doesn't feel the need to update it's drivers or Rom to address lacking issues.

All in all I'm happy with the phone, but LG has failed me with their lack of updates and support. (Samsung is same, my note 4 did not get any updates, but the phone functioned well)

I'm a note guy, I'll likely be going back to note line.
[LG V20 Real Life Review] Partyzane:
Yeah agree, I think you should go back to Samsung, LG is not for you ;)