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[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
Best run I've had so far. Easily get 6h+ SOT and I have it 99% setup.

Camera is mixed. It can take great photos. In good light. For lower light manual needs to be used and better hope it's a pic you can take your time with. Auto is the problem. Focus really only focuses on the point you focus. And better hope there is not a bright source of light in part of the picture. Wasting your time unless you want to manual set it up. My note4 takes way better pictures on auto consistently and it is two years old. Rarely have to do anything manual. Usually just turn on flash at most. Hope new firmware makes auto better or I go back to note4 and this becomes a badass DAP.

I have sent encountered many bugs. Very minor ones. And most of the that is app crashing from not being updated to take advantage of nougat. But yeah camera is my biggest gripe. You just know there is a great camera there but the firmware for it is borked up. Auto needs to be tuned. Fast.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] koppee1:
Try mod messenger....it's cool especially if you like emoticons
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Exleh:
I'll have to tweak some settings on the battery side of things. I really agree on the camera, you can get excellent shots with manual mode, especially if you had a tripod. But in our crazy mobile world, we don't really have time for that. I'll keep experimenting and I think I'll like it more and more. The cool thing about these cameras is that we have a lot to experiment and work with.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
True. But I was so excited for the camera on this phone. Was supposed to be at least as good as the g5's. I think it will appeal more to photographers, who probably like tweaking their cameras like we do our phones. I just wish auto was at least almost as good as the note4's camera ootb. Again. I hope firmware can make this happen. I'm pretty sure it can. Manually tweaking can get you some good shots. Of slow scenery. But what about when I want to take pictures of my nephew? I had to take 20 or so pictures to get like 3 good ones tweaking as I went and not getting the real shot I wanted but was happy to get the shots I did.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Exleh:
We will just have to see what LG/Carriers do in terms of updates. We are also waiting for root, at least I am.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] CB620:
Phone would have been flawless if they put dual speakers. Coming from a 6p the sound is horrible.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] nerys71:
Coming from a note 4 the sound is SPECTACULAR and LOUD :)

Likes.

The screen is fine. not as nice as an amoled but its nice.

I want to like the dual cams but I can't

LOVE the secondary screen! if they keeps the specs and features power user minded I might stay with LG just for that.

Love the Quad Dac. really does seem to help a lot. hard to measure though.

Love the TWO WAY IR (So I can receive as well)

of course SD and remov battery are mandatory. I would not even consider it without those.

Dislikes

Dual cameras suck if the cameras you provide suck. especially the wide angle camera. horrible quality not even worth using most of the time and the performance of the primary shooter is lackluster.

in low light my Note 4 is actually superior in image quality (that simply should not be the case) (less artifacts less noise) although the LG Is faster. about a wash.

before you go well thats good is it not? I am comparing to my Note 4 not a Note 7. ie 2 generations old model. not good at all.

its not bad. just not what I was hoping for. I have not really tried to push the hardware yet. I am hoping once rooted someone will up the image quality by reducing the compression level. RAW is worthless (at least for night time) image quality is horrible in raw. ALTHOUGH I have not tried to bring a raw image over to the PC yet.

either way I expect a 2 generation newer flagship to perform "noticeably" better than my 2 generations old flagship model. not be about equal.

The LCD. tisk tisk. come on LG I know you make *****in OLED's I drooled over your TV at best buy that I can not afford. lets get with the picture here.

where is my barometer? what gives?

Where is my fast wireless charging?

and why the hell did you not put the STYLUS from the stylo line into the V20.

I have tried many styli and I have come to realize they are all nearly worthless.

what made the Note magic was 3 fold.

The stylus was built in.

REMOVAL of said stylus invoked stylus mode and apps (critical)

Wacomm meant your palm did not mess things up when you used said stylus.

on my note 4 I pulled the style tapped the note option that automatically appears and I begin writing.

on the V20 I have to find my stylus. turn on the phone. unlock the screen. goto app drawer and open the memo app then tap plus for a new note than tap the pen to make the keyboard go away and invoke pen mode and THEN I could write.

I realize it was not the stylus that was so valuable but "how" it worked on the note 4 (and stylo 2)

SO what would I like to see with the V30 ?

take the V20 and remove NOTHING. now add barometer and stylus and a second SD car slot and put some real sensors and glass in the damned cameras and slap an OLED on it. I would suggest going down to 10 or even 8 MP and tripling or quadrupling the sensor patch size to dramatically improve low light and noise performance.

stay with the no glue easy to tear down design and build. also (maybe it already is) make sure the USB C port is easy to access and remove/replace

I would buy that in a heartbeat.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] greyhulk:
I don't agree with that at all. Juan Bagnell did a "Real Camera Review" for Pocketnow and clearly demonstrated that the cameras are good. There is a barrel distortion effect for the wide-angle lens, but it allows you to get much more into the shot, which is the point. GoPro cameras have the same distortion. It's the price you pay for more information in the shot, but that does not make it "horrible and not worth using".

I've also seen comparisons with the iPhone 7 and Pixel XL and the LG camera holds its own pretty well, especially in low light where it produces much more detail and less noise than the Pixel XL.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
The camera is not bad. The note4 does very well and better in auto also being two generations older. The LG camera is capable of great shots, but needs to be tweaked. Auto just sucks balls. I'm sure this can be alleviated via a firmware update but I wouldn't hold my breath. You forgot bigger battery. I wouldn't mind the v30 being almost 10mm thick. I would love a second sd card but unlikely. But while we are dreaming make it two UFS compatible micros sd card slots. If they do introduce a thicker phone definitely make sure top shelf amoled is used for both screens, wacom digitizer with palm recognition to recognize palm for screenshots and not recognize palm when using stylus. And with an amoled, dark theme like I am using throughout ui and apps, removable 4000mah battery, stylus, system ui tuner left the f**k alone, proper auto brightness, same DAC but don't lock all the features down, UFS external storage, camera tuned better for auto so we do t have to use manual almost all the time (manual is fine for certain shots like low light or some beautiful scenery you have the to make an even better picture) and we are taking a boss phone. That would justify the $800 price tag. This phone e aint worth $800as is. And even if they fixed like the DAC being gimped and no amoled still not worth $800. Only reason I co siders it was the $200 promotion, free earbuds I will probably flip on eBay or somewhere and this can replace my HTC M8 soy end cost will be around $400ish +. For that much the fault are tolerable.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Ryano89:
Mod messenger? Never heard of it, I would interested if I could find it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] koppee1:
Sorry.. That was supposed to be mood messenger
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] evo4g63t:
It's interesting that the LG camera gets mediocre reviews considering their previous models were so good. I mean the v10s main appeal was the excellent camera(s).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Skripka:
People expect perfection now.

People call this "the worst camera ever"... Who apparently have used very few digital cameras, especially ones more than a year or two old.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] gal419:
Coming from the S7 Edge I wish the camera were better and I wish it was amoled. Other than those two thing I think this is a very good phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
While the N7 camera was the best phone camera I've ever used, the V20 is no slouch. I wonder if these people saying is terrible maybe forgot to take the plastic if the camera lens...
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pestilencec11:
Strongly advised that you don't unless you want it to crack.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
Doesn't it interfere with the camera?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pestilencec11:
No.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pego99:
Nah don't like the v20 if I have to get another phone before the note 8 it will be the s7edge.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mallman:
seriously? i haven't been following this all that closely but is there some history behind the camera glass cracking?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pestilencec11:
Quick search and there are several YouTube videos about it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
Other than torture tests & a few people leaving the flash on for an undetermined amount of time (which presumbaly weakened the glass),no,it's not what one would consider a widespread issue.

If they were that fragile,I'm sure you would have heard about it by now,a la Note 7 proportions.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mallman:
Ok cool. Again I've be slightly considering this phone and haven't really looked at much but this and a course of threads. Thanks for the info. I'll go do so searches now lol
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] chavist:
Battery life is horrid, processed return today and getting S7 Edge in black
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] iLLxLBPSTi:
so...no way to turn on indicator lights at the top...i like how the samsung would light up green when charged...or blue when there is a notification
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Corbitt74:
I agree. I wasn't sure but it's all good
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Robert235:
I'm disappointed in the front camera just like my v10 and good alternative to make it look better.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Dark Jedi:
I'm coming off a note 7 and a s7 edge. One issue is the display is hard to set as its either dark or bright. I just can't find the sweet spot like I could on the Samsung devices. Other than that I like the V20 as it has some cool features like the second screen. Still I would like my note 7 but this is a good substitute.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pieces of cake:
This phone is flat-out fantastic. The ONLY "downside" IMO, is the lack of an AMOLED display. But the screen is still awesome. After a day away from my S7 Edge, I hardly notice.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] nofroyo:
Only complaint i have which is very minor is the softkeys on the screen taking up real estate on the screen. Just used to the old hardware compactive keys on phones like samsung and HTC. This going to take some time getting used to it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] somemadcaaant:
http://xdaforums.com/v20/help/how-to-hide-screen-buttons-t3486698
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pieces of cake:
It's irrelevant, because the Note 7 doesn't truly exist anymore but, I agree with those who have stated that this is a better phone than the Note 7 was. It is. In fact, it's much better. It doesn't get hot, stutter or lag like the Note 7 frequently did. It's faster, has better battery life (even with a smaller battery and more power-hungry display), has an amazing sound processor, dual cameras, a replaceable battery, and is constructed from much stronger materials. It crushes the Note 7 in every respect except display quality (which isn't a big deal after a day or so) and waterproofing (which has never mattered to me, but would be nice to have. Wireless charging is pointless for someone like me, who wants to USE his phone while it charges. With wireless, it has to sit in one place and you can't hold it. Also, wired charging is simply faster. If you need to charge your phone, why would you choose any method other than the fastest available?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Psychotacon:
I'm sure my issues are specific to the Sprint V20.

- scroll lag and stutter everywhere, even in system settings

- low res video, buffering every half second of video even on wifi and all "useful settings" in wifi turned off

I had an iPhone 6S on Sprint. No lag whatsoever, maybe once when I had every app on in the background and was playing a full 3D game, but even then it was two times in 30 hours of gameplay.

I play Galaxy of Heroes like crazy. An hour a day on average. No issues on iPhone. Constant stuttering on the V20.

I emailed Force GPU rendering in dev, and it seems to be actually helping with scroll stutter on Facebook and Chrome. Still noticeable tough.

Galaxy of Heroes still lags the same. Seems to be whenever animations or particles occur. Even with everything cleared from menu button.

Any ideas? Long time Android user, tried iPhone for a while to increase my IT skills and planned to go back anyway. V20 seemed like the perfect phone to return to Android but it's really disappointing me that my iPhone on the same network was almost perfectly zippy and responsive.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] pieces of cake:
I own the V20 and the S7 Edge. The V20's battery life is SIGNIFICANTLY better. You clearly weren't using it right.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] sll1313:
No you don't. I put my sd card in after I put in the battery. You need to remove battery to put in or change the SIM card. Maybe that's what you meant. The sd card slot is on top so it was easy to put it in without removing the battery. Try it again.

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I originally thought the same thing so I put the Swiftkey keyboard. I then read an article on how intuitive the LG keyboard is and it is rated the best keyboard out of all the manufacturers' keyboards. So I went back to it and right now one realization that I had is I had it set too tall. I also realized that the phone is a lot wider, so different dimensions than the Note 7 which would make for a different typing experience. I will try it for awhile and I'll report back to let everyone know if I like it.

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I'm confused because I read it was 714nit display, which is still short of the Note, but it's still pretty good from my understanding.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] flblue:
The Whatsapp app isn't showing alerts when receiving messages. I've gone into settings and changed everything and it still won't work. No idea why. Only messages appear when I open the app up, pain.

Only 3 options of background color, the only dark multi color makes the texts black and orange and you can't change it., very ugly. When doing a group text the area showing who you are listing is tiny. The default in group text goes to group messaging instead of individual messaging so be careful. the choice of text bubbles and backgrounds not great either.

Came from a Note 4, the LG is fast, fast charges with the stock charger. The finger print sensor would be great on the front, it's a pain to unlock the phone when its on a desk so you switch to pattern anyway.

The 2nd screen is cool, use it a bit. It shows texts have come in. Just wish te small light would flash for alerts too at the top. The phone is a good size, nice screen colors. I like the double tap to open n close but if u double tap in the wrong place something might open you didn't want to.

Some things about a Samsung though I like better overall. The text format much more user friendly. Probably keep this 2 years and get the Note 8 or 9, especially if they put a removable battery back in. 1 year, never mind 2 years though is a long time in phone development so who knows what will be out by then.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] sll1313:
I had an issue, too. Now I changed the size of the keyboard and also changed the auto-correction to aggressive. I believe I am typing a whole lot better. It may work for you, too. I still need to see if I like it as much as the other keyboard I've used.

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My reception is great! I completely recommend this phone. I am in South Florida with Verizon. So that might have something to do with it.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] sll1313:
I agree with your upgrade suggestions. I was just wondering if you were aware from a lock screen you can double tap the volume up key and be taking right into quick memo set up to write right away(not type). I thought that might help a little with one or two of your gripes.

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I think you got a bad phone/battery. This is best battery life I've ever had on a phone, better than my Note 7 got (which was the best battery life I had gotten). It also wasn't close the LG beat it by a mile. I wonder if you just got a bad battery. If that was your only issue you may want to check into that first.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] sll1313:
Now that I've played with the phone for a little bit. I have 2 minor issues.

1.). The front facing camera is ok. Sometimes great shots and other times horrible. It's inconsistent.

2.). Smart Lock works the worst on this phone compared to any other phone I've used. It works well with Bluetooth and "Ok Google", but is horrible with location and face recognition. I've put in every address right around my house including my own address and it recognizes it sometimes and other times it won't catch on. I've tried improving face recognition with different pictures, but doesn't seem to help. It actually worked great when I was out of the house today, but tonight at home I've had to use my fingerprint or ok google to unlock phone every time. Anyone have any ideas to improve this would be great because it's a feature I use all the time.

Other than these 2 issues I love the phone. I was so surprised! I was 100% planning on using this until the next "Note" comes out and then making this phone a backup. I negotiated a price with my current carrier because of the fiasco with the Note 7 because I didn't want to spend that kind of money just to switch out when the next Note comes out (within a year). Now it will all depend if I miss the S Pen on whether or not I will buy the next "Note".

If I did decide to buy the next version of the Note can you just switch in and out of the SIM card and change your phones like my wife changes purses or do you need to keep paying every time you activate a phone? Then I could have 2 phones that I pay for 1 line and switch back and forth on depending on my mood.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] flblue:
I hate that the the headphone jack is at the bottom and not at the top like the Samsung Note. When at the gym and you want to sit your phone down on the ledge of a machine yet still look and use your phone, well now you can't. the screen rotation goes sideways but not upside down.

I guess I need to invest now in some bluetooth earphones.

It's little things like this that make the Samsung a better fit, for for me anyway.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Nick281051:
Uh the headphone jack has been on the bottom of the Notes for a while now
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] flblue:
I apologize, I came from the Note 4 where the headphone jack was on the top. Much better imo.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Madelynn28:
I was used to setting my phone on the wireless charger at night. So not having wireless charging is a minor annoyance. The auto part of the Camera software could be a lot better. Also a minor annoyance. Pretty solid phone.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Nick281051:
Gotcha. I much prefer bottom mounted because I want to have my phone top down in my pocket.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Pick_A_Name:
Yes you can swap Sims no problem.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
just curious. How do you like the phone now? Id like the opinion on someone coming from stock android and using the nexus 6ps HDR+ mode. Do you still like the V20? How does the camera compare? any regrets?:laugh:
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] EVOme:
Not sure how you tell that?

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If that's what I have it's going back!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] sleepinnov:
Where did you order your phone from? A U.S. Carrier? or B&H?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] EVOme:
Directly from T-Mobile cust service line. I just tried again and I have three sound profiles in quick settings....sound/vibrate/silent. I opened the camera with all three and it clicks.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Intub8:
I can confirm the tmobile model does not make noise on vibrate or silent.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] BozQ:
Try Open Camera or Google Camera?
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] EVOme:
I swear if I have to return this due to having an international version... I'm getting a refund and using my iPhone 7 plus. Three Droid swaps in a couple months. Out
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Araltd:
Something is not right, if 2 people are saying 2 different things about the camera sound... 1 is getting sound on silent, and 1 is not. You guys should post up screen captures of your about screens and see if there are any software differences.

Especially since/if they came from T-mobile... since the official release date is at least the 28th and many people received within 24-48 hrs after orderings and more than a week before - these phones were sitting somewhere waiting to be shipped. It would suck if some people got pre-released firmware/software or different versions of software/firmware.

I would like to know!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] SidneyD:
I would hope that it would be easy. Phones have had multiple cameras for years. Now instead of front and back, we have front, back (standard), and back (wide).
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
Just another report, If I set it to Vibrate or Silent I have no camera sound either.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] CHH2:
It sounds easy but it must not be. Heck, some of these camera apps have to work a lot just to support some of the higher reso cameras. This presents a different issue. Sure, apps already switch between front and back but now they have to switch between three cameras. That's probably not something most people coded for.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] cy88:
It's a preference. The screen is good as a IPS, "not as good" compare to AMOLED if you like constrast

Agreed. Not sure why they took it out!

I use the quick setting toggle instead of going all the way into settings.

Mine is off when I put it on vibrate. I don't let my phone out of silent often, but I can test. I have a H915.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] Amd4life:
just received my device, and setting it all up. the only nitpicking so far is the second screen corner bleed is still there.

to replicate. turn screen to 100%, set second screen to "on"-when the screen is off. turn the screen off. let it settle few seconds. go into a black room, tilt the phone and the left corner of the second screen bleeds just like on the V10.

seems that it's the exact same screen as the V10. my V10 has TERRIBLE ghosting after 8 months, I hope LG has taken steps to improve that.

the phone is super light , and the hand feel is better than the V10, due to the change in dimensions, certainly more snappy, love the dark theme...wish it had the 821, especially since the leeco phones, Asus zen deluxe and the pixel both have them.

just waiting for root!!
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mgymnop:
I have some light bleed in the lower left and right corner on the large screen. Not too bad but recognizable on a white background with brightness between 50% and 100%.
[LG V20 Questions & Answers] mrcarterac:
I'm having issues downloading my "FILMS" the screen is the the note 7 screen but it will do for now.