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[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Is it possible that when the official stock Android 7.0 is out, we could flash it manually even if we don't get OTA, like we did for this version.? Will our system be 100% stock official and we'd get OTAs after that right?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] freeman_g:
Yes, in case official N will have newer or the same bootloader (that is almost 100% probable) then we will have pure stock N after flashing it through fastboot.

I still believe that this OTA can be release and we will receive futlrther updates even without flashing full stock rom
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] chaitu@95:
If we downgrade to mm and receive a OTA update notification can we download the zip and flash it via stock recovery?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
Many of us r in delima whether we will get regular update after this .???? ....... Btw if it's not official , why does it shows that this software is official on our phones *( saw some people saying that it shows modified).
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] freeman_g:
The same issue: if OTA requires original bootloader then it won't be installed from stock recovery.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smstiv:
This is my own experience. I upgrade to N from clean stock MM installation. Then I installed TWRP ant restore previous stock MM image (NANDROID). Around here (in XDA) you have thread how to come back to stock MM with factory image from fastboot commands. I install the factory image with fastboot and when the ROM start I receive one OTA update with security patch ( the last one if I remember correctly). Maybe this will be answer ours questions about OTA update if downgrade from N is present. I repeat, this is my own experience with XT1642 athene from Spain. If someone need I can tell all steps to do that. In the bootloader mode my status is "Official".
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] freeman_g:
It answer partially: OTA can be received and installed but more important will be OTA that changes bootloader (usually bricks started from such types of OTA)
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
What is your security patch level now ?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smstiv:
1.06.2016 security patch.

MPJ24.139-63 build number.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
When I was in mm my security patch level was july ( indian version)
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smstiv:
The factory image what I use is previous build. About that I receive the OTA update with the security patch from 06.2016. My post is related only with the discussion about OTA updates when someone do downgrade from N. I just send my experience if for someone can be useful. I downgrade from N and OTA work well.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
Can u mention the steps that u did for downgrading to mm ?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smstiv:
This is my own experience. Do it at your own risk.

Upgrade to N with this guide from stock updated MM ROM.

Then i install TWRP with fastboot.

Restore my stock MM (NANDROID).

With fastboot install stock MM factory image. In the process fastboot give me error on this command "fastboot flash partition gpt.bin", but i ignored it.

When finish reboot the device.

Start the ROM like usually (and in my case i receive the OTA update).

To install the TWRP and the factory image i use this thread.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3lordZuk0:
Well, i tried everything now but still m getting memory not found, installation aborted error.

My phone is encrypted, does this have to do anything with the error??? On my other phone which is rooted and has twrp, twrp prompts me to put encryption pattern when i access recovery.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hoffm59:
Just flashed it using the instructions from the OP to my german XT1642 and it works flawless.

Thank you very much [MENTION=5253673]rahulsnair[/MENTION]
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] AokiAlan:
Anyone having camera issues?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
So like u said, after installing stock MM factory image with fastboot.. when u got the OTA update(security patch) notification, did you install the OTA successfully or are u stuck in bootloader??

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Nup bro. Just facing heavy battery drain issues! Camera is just like stock MM 6.0. AnTuTu scores and UI snappiness are better than stock MM. Performance seems to be improved in this OS at the cost of power saving! :rolleyes:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] akka47:
Can you please post a screenshot of Hardware Information section? Is there any issues at all using it on a XT1621? Dual SIM working? Thanks
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hoffm59:
I don't face any battery drain issues. Look at my stats (flashed 10h ago)
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] BeanUzumaki:
I couldnt install apk suddenly...it was working fine before...but now the install button can't be clicked...help me
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] FlaminisRex:
Mine it's single SIM.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smstiv:
Everything fine. I use my phone like fever.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ==vj==:
I also felt Nougat draining my battery massively than Stock MM until i noticed the LOCATION settings ---3dots menu.

Here, by default the WiFi scanning and Bluetooth scanning are turned ON. Had to turn them OFF And Location set to Battery saving. Clear the data of GOOGLE App.

Now the battery drain is back to normal.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Kk.. Let's c. I'm trying to downgrade to stock MM 6.0 :confused:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] san461:
My phone was rooted and I unrotted it and flashed stock system and boot (twrp backup) and flashed stock recovery and when I trying to flash this ota am getting status 7 error

Pls help
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] douglasroos:
Tried to flash on US XT1644

Tried to flash on US XT1644 but it shows the following message:

Source: motorola/athene/athene:6.0.1/MPJ24.139-63/64:user/release-keys

Target: motorola/athene/athene:7.0/NPJ25.75-2/1:user/release-keys

E3002: package expects build thumbprint of 7.0/NPJ25.75-2/1:user/release-keys or 6.0.1/MPJ24.139-64/65:user/release-keys; this device has 6.0.1/MPJ24.139-64/65:user/release-keys.

So not possible :(
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jyoti.id:
The update is smooth, & battery backup is also great/u can say normal as mm. The only thing that i found buggy/abnormal is charging time. Charging from 5% to 100% took almost 3hrs for me today morning. I don't know why & don't know if it's happening for others also. Need to check it once more.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kevin dsouza:
Yeah Quite Abnormal Since It Took 30mins to charge from 13 to 100% in the morning and its still 84% with heavy usage :D XD
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kevin dsouza:
People Worried About Not Getting "OTA's"

http://xdaforums.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/nougat-test-build-officially-t3486619/page1

Thanks If I Helped!:D :cool: :angel:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
My device is the Indian variant of G4 Plus XT1643. I wanted to return to stock MM 6.0 (..139.63..). I even flashed it using fastboot. Everything was normal. I got the same preflash validation error that everyone's getting bcz of bootloader downgrading. But still when it was successful and device started rebooting, i hoped I'd hv stock MM. But instead i was having a factory reset of 7.0 Nougat. I think just the clear userdata and clear cache commands worked, rest all failed! Can anyone give any ideas? I'm freaked out! :crying:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jyoti.id:
Only 30min :rolleyes:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] sabath21:
Guys, does the Google Calculator app works for you in Nougat?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
Thers a videoon youtube called how to downgrade moto g4 android 7.0 soak test to androidv6.0 marshmallow it helped me and its easy to follow also i can confirm after downgrading back to 6.0 i get ota updates and the install just fine
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
Which ota update u received ?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
Answer

I received the latest update for marshmallow its build is MPJ24.139-63

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OK Guys this guy did a video it helped me to downgrade the 7.0 soak test back to 6.0 marshmallow rite after i downgraded i got a ota update with the build number is MPJ24.139-63

so i installed it and everything installed perfectly fine but my question is at 12:42 of the video im sure in the command window if u look carefully it flashed the old bootloader too or am i mistaken? heres the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9NG5fIDccI
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Yea it's unable to flash the MM 6.0 bootloader so your bootloader is still that of nougat 7.0
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
Oh ok thanks for your reply so my question now is when the official android 7.0 ota arrives if i take the update will it hard brick my device because it still has the 7.0 bootloader?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Lol, no dude. It won't be hard bricked. Coz according to this logic your system image will be updated from 6.0 - 7.0 but your bootloader(is of 7.0 nougat) so i think it'll neither be upgraded nor downgraded. Rather it'll just be sidegraded.

One more thing. Can u boot into bootloader mode just once and check if your software status is showing Official or Modified now?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
bootloader status

i booted into bootloader mode it says software status official
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Thanks a lot bro
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
downgrade 7.0 soak test

no problems so i will be fine to do the official 7.0 ota when it arrives?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Yep, hope so! :good:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
downgrade 7.0 soak test

downgrading is possible back to 6.0 everyone
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Wish i could bro, but sems ahead:crying:

Anyways this discussion ends here. Don't wanna go offtopic. Good luck to u
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
downgrade 7.0 soak test

ok thx later
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Don't be too sure about that! On my previous Motorola Moto G2 2014 there was a leaked soak test update from KitKat to Lollipop. That update updated the bootloader also. Some people went back to KitKat. Once the official update to Lollipop arrived and they installed it, they hardbricked their phone. That update tried to update a bootloader that already was updated. The bootloader got messed up and the phone was dead....

Send with my Moto G4 Plus (XT1642) on Android 7.0 using Tapatalk!
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
Thanks fr ur tip bro. U mean in that case I'm safe as I'm still on Nougat :cool:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] siddhesh12hemade:
Exactly! It won't be a good idea to roll back to marshmallow unless the bootloader problem is fixed. As far as the new rom is concerned, it's pretty stable and usable. There are minor glitches like when you pull down the notification bar, the time and date are not displayed properly, but it's alright! Because you already have an official Nougat update for non nexus device with you. The split screen and doze mode functions works pretty well, plus the ram management is better. Rolling back to marshmallow may harm your device and its also almost outdated! So better stick with current rom. Hope someone will find a way to flash official Nougat update when it is rolled! :svetius:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lapocha5:
Guys, i´ve only seen one guy who posted that this ota works with 1644, anyone else can confirm this?. Thanks.-
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Just for the record: read this from the Moto G 2014 threads.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3379488

Send with my Moto G4 Plus (XT1642) on Android 7.0 using Tapatalk!
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
We need confirmation that the video downgrade back to android 6.0 flashed the old 6.0 bootloader the video is on the previous page if it flashed the old 6.0 bootloader then we should be ok to take the official 7.0 update when it rolls out and it wont brick our devices

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ok so i downgraded to 6.0 and i tried installing the 7.0 soak test again and it installed just fine it didnt brick my device i even went as far as to downgrade again from the 7.0 soak test even with the updated bootloader and all seems fine i can confirm that i could upgrade and downgrade back and forth without problems

so my question is this wouldnt this be the same process when we get the official 7.0?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Thank you for doing this and thereby risking your device! Possibly Lenovo/Motorola learned something from the bricked earlier Moto devices!

Glad I was wrong!

Send with my Moto G4 Plus (XT1642) on Android 7.0 using Tapatalk!
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
downgrade 7.0 soak test

no problem
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] swarupgolui:
Yes You Are Correct, i tried downgraded and Upgrade 2 Time I Don't Have Any Problem...

Only You Don't Available To Relock Bootloader... After Stable Release In filefactory Thane I thing It's Available ...
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
Yes You Are Correct, i tried downgraded and Upgrade 2 Time I Don't Have Any Problem...

Only You Don't Available To Relock Bootloader... After Stable Release In filefactory Thane I thing It's Available ...[/QUOTE]

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[/QUOTE]

so we should be perfectly fine doing the official 7.0 ota then because its the same thing as reinstalling the 7.0 soak test with the new updated 7.0 bootloader:) unless theres something in the official 7.0 ota what will conflict and cause our devices to brick i dont know only time will tell but im guessing we should be ok
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] swarupgolui:
i Already Test After Downgrade To 6.0 Thane Ota Update Working Fine...

I'm Downgrade To MPJ24.139-23.1 Thane I Upgrade My Phone To MPJ24.139-63 Via OTA....:D:D:D
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpha_wolf:
so i flashed xt1643 firmware to my xt1644 then used the update from sdcard to to to android 7.0 and ya it worked ill be playing with it today to see how it works oh ya i flashed twrp and rooted it also lol and yes im just happy i didnt blow up the phone hahah
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashesh1708:
Should I continue to keep the soak test installed or roll back and install Android 7 official update (not sure if it came out).?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] siddhesh12hemade:
Will you please share your downgrade tutorial? I tried downgrading via ADB method and ended up reseting my phone to Nougat's factory settings. I'm using G4 plus 32 gb Indian variant. Also do mention, your phone's variant, because the guy in that downgrade procedure video had Moto G4 16 gb variant.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] freeman_g:
We should keep in mind that this OTA is a set of patches for different versions of MM. When the OTA sees bootloader with up-to-date version it just does not patch it. The other case can be if further OTA's will have binaries inside or patches for different bootloaders (for example, we can have additional OTA for MM before official upgrade to N). In this case situation with bricked Moto G 2nd can be repeated. In other words - be careful with downgrading and further OTA upgrades. I would prefer to wait for official image to flash it with factory reset.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] madscientistdam:
I have the 16gb g4 i followed the guys downgrade video tutorial a few pages back on this thread that is what worked for me it should be the exact procedure for the g4 plus too Goodluck bro?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pranjal24:
hey some confusion + highlight about downgrading android 7.0 Nougat to android 6.0 MM

i watched the video carefully and while copy pasting commands there was also a bootloader file (fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img) and if i m true it got flashed without any error. So how come the bootloader is still v7.0??? it must be android 6.0 bootloader.

any clues about this..

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I personally prefer to stay on your android 7.0 soak update, and when official ota arrives check for ota updates. If we get then Bingo!!

but if we dont then we can try downgrading to 6.0
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jyoti.id:
Anyone on 7.0 please notice the charging time. For me it's taking to long, almost 3hrs from 3%-100%. Don't know why
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] chromedome00:
Just remember, that users that downgraded X2 and G2 (I think) after loading Beta of L, later took official OTA Of L and BRICKED. They are still bricked today. If Bootloader is upgrading you better not downgrade and have mismatch. Google search on "blank flash files"
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Xatt:
What he said.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
How do we exactly know if the bootloader has been upgraded ?

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R u the one from Motorola admin @ xatt !?
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Xatt:
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R u the one from Motorola admin @ xatt !?[/QUOTE]

I am Matt from forums.motorola.com and other dimensions of the Internets. I know using leaked software can be fun, but you can mess up badly, too.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] chromedome00:
Always assume bootloader is upgraded. Downgrades have NEVER been supported. Others have already posted this here.

If you downgraded, NEVER take an OTA upgrade, or expect a brick.

If XDA users would just spend time reading before jumping in. But that never happens.

The forums will fill with "Help, I bricked my phone" and all the crying emojis that go with it. Hopefully the mods are ready.
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lancron78:
Then what about the youtube video showing everything's ok ..
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
I am Matt from forums.motorola.com and other dimensions of the Internets. I know using leaked software can be fun, but you can mess up badly, too.[/QUOTE]

Hey Matt, I'm from India. Using the Indian version of Moto G4 Plus XT1643 (3GB-32GB) model. I had already registered my phone on Motorola forums and also opted in for Motorola Feedback Network (MFN) network. Many got the soak test OTA update but i didn't! So when i came across this NOUGAT soak test OTA zip, I flashed it and it's running pretty fine! Now when the official OTA will be released, I'll be getting that OTA am i right ?? And one more thing, where should i post feedback about the soaktest OS? Can you provide a link? I'll be grateful man, Thanks!

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Well if you watched that video carefully, do it again!! The guy in the video is getting gpt.bin partition flash error. Also preflash validation error(which means that the bootloader of nougat CAN'T be downgraded to that of marshmallow!!!) Those who downgraded from 7.0 to 6.0, your bootloader is still of Android 7.0 while your system image is now of Android 6.0. So next time when an OTA arrives(official nougat for example) it'll update your system image from 6.0 to 7.0, but when it tries to update your bootloader a mismatch occurs as it's expecting older 6.0 bootloader whereas yours would be the already updated 7.0 bootloader!
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jyoti.id:
I just want to know that, are'nt this soak test provided by the Moto!? If answer is yes, then why are they providing this soak test which is much confusing!? & If no, then sorry for asking.

Don't take me wrong, I'm asking as I'm worried about all this soak update & bricking :silly::laugh:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pranjal24:
Hey Matt, I'm from India. Using the Indian version of Moto G4 Plus XT1643 (3GB-32GB) model. I had already registered my phone on Motorola forums and also opted in for Motorola Feedback Network (MFN) network. Many got the soak test OTA update but i didn't! So when i came across this NOUGAT soak test OTA zip, I flashed it and it's running pretty fine! Now when the official OTA will be released, I'll be getting that OTA am i right ?? And one more thing, where should i post feedback about the soaktest OS? Can you provide a link? I'll be grateful man, Thanks!

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Well if you watched that video carefully, do it again!! The guy in the video is getting gpt.bin partition flash error. Also preflash validation error(which means that the bootloader of nougat CAN'T be downgraded to that of marshmallow!!!) Those who downgraded from 7.0 to 6.0, your bootloader is still of Android 7.0 while your system image is now of Android 6.0. So next time when an OTA arrives(official nougat for example) it'll update your system image from 6.0 to 7.0, but when it tries to update your bootloader a mismatch occurs as it's expecting older 6.0 bootloader whereas yours would be the already updated 7.0 bootloader![/QUOTE]

gr8 thanks but i also have asus zenfone 5 and i installed jellybean((during launch in 2014 )) when my phone got bricked and then keep installing 4.4 and then 5.0 came stock in moto also there must be a way

so i assume there must be some recovery img to restore bootloader to its factory mode
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ssmcrak:
gr8 thanks but i also have asus zenfone 5 and i installed jellybean((during launch in 2014 )) when my phone got bricked and then keep installing 4.4 and then 5.0 came stock in moto also there must be a way

so i assume there must be some recovery img to restore bootloader to its factory mode[/QUOTE]

Yeah i wish everyone tastes official nougat! Eagerly waiting for its release :fingers-crossed:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] freeman_g:
Yes, there should be ADB service images but it is highly unlikely that anyone will receive such image
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] chromedome00:
Motorola software tests are private. They push software to a group of users and those users are supposed to keep it secret. There are different kinds of test software. Soak test is almost release, and there are other tests that are more like beta. No one knows which this is, but beta software has bricked phones in the past. The software was not provided to the public. People are loading something that a user leaked, so Motorola didn't provide it, it was stolen.

Anytime you sideload some OTA you take a chance.

hey, but you can tell everyone you were first to taste N when your phone takes a dump. :laugh:
[Moto G4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jyoti.id:
:laugh::laugh: but now I'm really really worried as i already updated it :silly: