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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
I came from a OnePlus 3 myself and though I do prefer the front fingerprint sensor, the Pixel XL beats it on everything else IMO. My SoT on my PXL destroys what my OP3 was giving me, the camera is on another level, I do feel a difference in smoothness (not necessarily performance, but just general smoothness) and the screen is significantly better too (I plan on using VR, so a QHD screen is sort of necessary).

Now, the Pixel literally cost me twice what I paid for my OP3 ($600 vs $1200 - tax included in CAD$). Is it really worth it? No. Not at all. But as a tech head who switches phones every 6 months, I don't mind spending extra money on a device I use literally every day, constantly. Especially knowing I can sell it 6-12 months later and get the majority of my money back (I always keep my phones in mint condition).

When all is said and done, I'm very happy with my Pixel. Is it overpriced? Yes, but so are all the other main stream flagships. I'm not going to complain about price - which seems to everyone's gripe about this phone (that and waterproofing.. god people need to get over that). At the end of the day, if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it. I plan on keeping mine.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
I am similarly annoyed with no ability to wake the screen without picking the device up.... how in the world double tap to wake isn't an option when they put the fingerprint reader on the back is beyond me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
I can't and honestly don't care to flash roms. I can however walk into a version store and say no thanks. Keep it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
Myself, I was looking forward to stock without the need for flashing anything but not this time with the pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
Well, as I stated to the OP, "if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it."

Personally, returning a device simply because it doesn't support Tap to Wake seems a bit overkill. But, if there's other things about the device that urks you, then I don't see why you should keep it. I'm very happy with my purchase.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ChrisAC84:
I read somewhere they are adding double tap to wake in the future. I agree, it needs it BADLY lol. I am satisfied with my purchase. I don't mind the waterproffing, as the Note 7 didn't hold up under 6 inches of water for me anyway. And as for the price? I've paid 800+ for every phone I had the past few years (minus the 6P) so that's a non issue
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
I have a $1000 device that has a back side fingerprint reader and absolutely no way to wake it/unlock it using anything on the front/top side of the phone. I am forced to do an awkward pinch to squeeze power button followed by entering a code to unlock or pick up the phone. It's hard to understand how this scenario ever passed their ID department. To me this is a device failure. You see it as a small issue. I see it as me having to pick up my damn phone every time I want to wake it for the next two years because Google made poor ID decisions.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] TechBSwift:
I'm sending mine back because the screen has a line going down the middle. I'm not doing an RMA because I have the 32gb and that's not going to cut it. 128 is a month wait... Buying a 6p on eBay and saving $700.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] FSOP:
Tap to wake is apparently coming "very soon" http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/double-tap-wake-arriving-pixel-phones-soon.html
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] tiny70thomas:
I'm seriously thinking about it. It's.not because of anything really on my Pixel XL, It's more how AMAZING my Moto Z Force Droid is. I don't know through I keep going g back and forth. Moto has me so disgusted with there marketing plan or lack of one, there horrible customer service, and there nightmare logistics , I wanted to get free from them, But waterproof shatterproof and almost barebones Android make it really nice phone
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Buddyfunlove:
I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up.... :cool:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] wickets:
Isnt tap to wake different than ambient display? 6p has ambient display that worked out the box and the new update to 7.1.1 even has a setting for it to show notifications under "Moves". nexus 6 did the same thing, I.E. it had a working ambient display function. My understanding is that tap to wake actually turns on the phone in lieu of power button or similar....it has nothing to do with notification display
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
Completely different. Not equivalent. Not acceptable. The phone is so thin you are basically having to pick it up from the table at least a little bit to press the power button. Then if you are like lots of professionals we have an admin security policy because of corporate email security that requires you to unlock it with a 5 digit code or fingerprint. So to actually do anything we have to pick it up. Even with tap to wake this is an issue. This single issue is annoying me multiple times daily and might be the nail in the coffin. At least with my. NOTE 7 I could reach over with one finger press the home button while it simultaneously read my finger and be at an unlocked home screen with no more than a single finger press.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jasbur17:
The phone is fine - I knew what I was getting before i purchased it.

I prefer the reader on the back. I have it set to not lock when is at home or in the car so i don't have to pick it up, just press the side button.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] wickets:
P.S. from back in the day this was all the rage:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/24/how-to-enable-double-tap-to-wake-on-your-rooted-nexus-6/
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jal3223:
You kinda knew the layout of the device before buying it right? The missing front fingerprint scanner at least is what I'm referring to. You should definitely just return it though. You're pretty upset and there is no way they can make you happy at this point.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
Unfortunately I understand the layout and the basic requirement for the need for the ability to unlock the phone without picking it up better than Google did... apparently....im hanging on to it until the return period is up to see what else is out there. I may have to return it and find some junk phone to use until another decent size decent phone comes out.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jal3223:
Yeah, unfortunately it's about the best we have hardware wise on android at the moment. The Moto G4 plus seems to be a lower spec phone that has a front fingerprint scanner. Honestly, it looks like a great value for it if you don't mind the 1080p display. I personally don't mind it. Plus the software is pretty close to stock. I believe the screen size is the exact same as well.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Buddyfunlove:
I must have made skills then.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] JasonJoel:
I prefer the dedicated fingerprint scanner on my moto z force. But, I prefer EVERYTHING else about the Pixel XL. So I'll stick with the Pixel.

There is no right or wrong on this though. If the phone doesn't do what you want, return it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] catpunt:
I'm on the fence about keeping mine. IMO for $1K it needs to be perfect. However I was hoping for epic battery life and have been a little disappointed. Considering returning it but IDK what else I would get that would be better. So yeah the price is the main thing for me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
I have no problem with battery life, 4-6 SOT is fine... but the fingerprint scanner location is just so polarizing. It's great if your phone is always in your hand. Not so much if not. Some of us have a life. Some of us don't want to pick up our phones or squeeze it awkwardly to check the time or read a quick message.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] toanau:
I am considering canceling my order now. Waiting for the LeEco Pro3 to be available on Nov 2nd for $299. It's pretty much a third of the price
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] juliend:
^ 1080p LCD. blech.

Pixel XL is growing on me. I think I'll keep it. Tap to wake feature coming soon will definitely seal the deal.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] androidpixar:
Double tap to wake is coming on an upcoming kernel release.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...phones-soon.html/amp?client=ms-android-google
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] movielover76:
No way, this is the best Android smartphone I've ever owned. the Oneplus 3 is a great phone without a doubt but it isn't a google phone which means.

Much slower and potentially unreliable updates, I want security updates and I also want to be the first to play with new features when they come out.

On the software front Oneplus also still has more bugs than I'd like.

Also, no google assistant.

And finally no wifi calling on T-mobile, it really comes in handy every once and awhile.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
It feels clunky compared to my op3. The price does not help either. Definitely not worth the price. I prefer my finger print scanner on front now that I see how annoying the back is to me. Google dropped the ball imho trying to be apple.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
I want my paid for Nexus 6 back now...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AndrasLOHF:
Just lmmfao at all you guys pitching about and wanting to return the phone for having the fingerprint sensor on the back. YOU KNEW IT WAS THERE BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT. This is the third device that Google has designed this way so I'm preeeeetty sure whether you think "Google dropped the ball" or not, that this is how they want their phones to be.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] trickster2369:
Not using the fingerprint scanner is an option, is it not?

It was all just an illusion
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dermotti:
The only reason im getting the the pixel over the OP3 is the camera. If the OP3 was even only $200 cheaper with a halfway decent camera, i would take it over the pixel in a heartbeat.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
You seem to be under the impression that I've owned and been okay with the previous models. This is the first device I've owned with the print reader on the back. So it's a first experience with this. Has zero to do with how many devices they made this way in the past. You don't know how you will like something new until you try it. I am saying it sucks.

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Negative. Not unless typing in a 5 digit code every time you need to unlock it is what you call an acceptable alternative.. It's not.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AstroDigital:
Really like the finger print scanner in the back.

Lift right hand easy to touch it.

Oh there are a few things I do not like with the device, seen this "halo" taking pictures, but it is to date the best smartphone I purchased.

Will not return this device.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
Okay I'm done thinking about it.... I'm VZW bound tomorrow.... looks like an S7 Edge will be much better for the next year. I am not picking up my phone every time I want to check for missed messages/calls just because they put the fingerprint sensor on the back.....

The Pixel just doesn't have anything noticeably better than my Note 7 had. They are both great devices but the Pixel feels like a downgrade on the whole.

At least I'm only stuck with a phone I don't want for a year that's 90% of what the Note 7 was instead of a phone that's 50% of what the Note 7 was for 24 months......and I'm sure there will be a worthwhile incentive looking forward to the Note 8 by sticking with a Samsung.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
Note 7 is a lagfest, can't believe some one comparing Pixel with a bloated/lagfest Touchwiz phone.:silly:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
Here and there it lags yes. I don't care. I'm not walking around with my phone in my hand. The minor lag is nothing when I get a front finger print scanner and the ability to upgrade in 12 months.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] cc999:
Look at this

Take a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7plA1ALkQw&feature=em-u

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix/

This is unbelievable for 500 dollars! This will make you think twice about the Pixel XL

CC
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Spl4tt:
For me, it's a dealbreaker if the fingerprint is on the front. Can't understand how a front reader should be good except for when the phone lies on the table.. Which I never use that way anyway.

You see, there are different people, not poor ID decisions. For me they made the perfect decisions.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] evanw68:
How did you end up paying 600$ for the OP3? The cost is only 400, not counting accessories
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scoppola:
I predict that next year, there will be phones with a fingerprint scanner on the front AND the back (because we need a reason to upgrade). I do prefer the back if I can only have one.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
The answer to your question is in the brackets right beside it. That's in CAD not USD and with tax included. OP3 starts at $500 in Canada, not 400.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
The difference is your thumb naturally lands on the home button/fingerprint reader when you are holding it. So you can instantly unlock it with your thumb while holding or index finger while laying flat. The back side reader simply doesn't fit both. It ONLY works when holding the phone.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AstroDigital:
Ok I got it some people leave phones laying flat on a table, they come by and want to touch the front finger print scanner.

The reason I did not get this is for me the only time my phone is sitting flat on a table is when it charges.

I also know what notifications I got because my watch displays them.

What I do not understand is "ALL Pictures", Reviews showed the back finger print scanner. So why did you buy this if it is a big deal for you ?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
Cmon google you know us lazy Americans dont want to pick up our phones to look at notifications. I give up on devices with the fingerprint reader on the back. I'm a front fingerprint reader type of guy apparently. Seriously, what is google thinking here. This hardware, feel wise, doesn't compete with lower priced China models, let alone the iphone. They need to go back to the drawing board....again.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] evanw68:
Oh I see. But that's still $100 dollars unaccounted for
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
Also in the brackets. That's with tax and shipping included. Tax In ON, Canada is extremely high. I included tax and shipping in both prices. Without it would be $500 vs $1050. Still double either way you look at it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] clapper66:
This whole post is pathetic. It's about returning the device for some reason. what makes it pathetic is how almost everyone's complaining about the Fingerprint location.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] stevemw:
Android Wear is the solution for that.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
It's one of those kind of things you don't realize is going to be an issue. I didn't discount it by default. I gave it a week's try. Every day it gets increasingly annoying. There is nothing that is going to replace the convenience of being able in one simple motion, with one single finger tip, unlock the phone. No squeezing the device with the hand to press the power button. No picking it up. No entering a code. Just one single momentary press of a finger tip is all. That's what my device has to do and it wasn't until I had the Pixel a few days that I realized how much I relied on that one simple gesture.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] DanJRWalsh:
As someone who owns a OnePlus 3 (there's a popular lower priced Chinese phone for ya) and an iPhone 6, I 100% disagree. This is definitely at least on par if not better built than both. They were also the only ones able to remove the camera hump :silly:

On a sidenote, you could take advantage of "Smart Unlock" for the fingerprint issue. I usually have my phone in my pocket as opposed to my desk, so the rear fingerprint scanner is more ideal in that situation, as it's already unlocked by the time it's out.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] 1Zero3forlife:
I love the scanner on the back, best part of this phone for me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] evocalante:
I see it as laziness. First world Problems!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ExcuseTheN00b:
Coming from a Note 7 (only used for 2 weeks before recall) and a Nexus 6p (used for almost a year) I am in love with this phone. Also had a s7 Edge for work for a while but didn't use it as much as the other 2 during the day. I did love my Note 7 and all the features that were available (even though I barely used any of them) but the Pixel XL is by far the best phone I have ever used. I also loved the pure Google experience on the 6p. I much rather have a longer battery life which the Pixel XL has than a bunch of features like the edge screens and s-pen that I never really used. The only thing I did not like was that it was kinda awkward to unlock the phone if it was on the flat surface but now that there is ElementalX kernel with swipe 2 wake it has solved the only issue I had.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] EdCarden:
I'm coming off the Moto X Pure 2015 and the Note 7 and the only things I really miss are active or always on display, wireless charging, and to much lesser extent than I originally thought, micro SD support (I got the 128gb version and I loaded everything I had on my card onto the internal storage and I still have over 50gb left). That's really it. This phone is so fast and smooth and the software experience is so good, I don't care about anything else.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Spl4tt:
"naturally lands on the home button/fingerprint" how the **** are you holding your phone that this is "naturally". I have to ridiculously stretch my thumb and risk dropping my phone when trying to unlock, for example, an OP3.

The fingerprint on the back actually IS "naturally" as my finger automatically lands there when I take my phone out. Only downside being that it's hard to unlock when on the table, but there I only use the lockscreen anyway to switch music or read messages. If I need to type I'm picking it up anyway.

As I said, there is no failure, just different tastes. Get an OP3 if you like the fingerprint on the front (That's actually why I do not have one, else the phone would be amazing)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AstroDigital:
Like I said some people, I never lie my phone on a table so I could not care, also my watch tells me about all my notifications.

You did know before you purchase the device where the finger print scanner is.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
When I hold my phone in my hand my pinky is under the bottom edge, and my thumbs are hovering over the screen near the bottom. That's why they put the home button where they did.... because that's where your thumb naturally is already... hovering over the home button area.... At least this applies to every person I've ever seen hold a phone in portrait orientation.

Like I said before. I am a professional. I don't keep my phone in my pocket all day. I use it for corporate email as well. Corporate security policies dictate the device must always need to be unlocked by 5 digit code or fingerprint and no notifications are allowed on the lockscreen for obvious reasons. If I hear it go off and I want to see what it was I can reach over and simply touch/press the home button/print fender with my index fingertip. Done.

With this device I am forced to enter a 5 digit code which is bothersome and slow or pick the device up and get my finger on the fingerprint scanner on the back. It's unnecessary time and motion. After having to do this many times a day it gets old. It wasn't a big deal at first but with time it's grown old...

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The answer to your question is in the body of text you quoted from me..... like the first few sentences..... read it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AstroDigital:
This is how I hold my phone and feels natural.

Hold right hand

Pinky, ring, middle fingers left side, thumb right side, and index finger under the phone near the scanner.

The phone is cradled between 3 fingers and my thumb and supported with the index finger which is near the scanner.

It the sensor was on the front bottom middle I can not see how I can hold the device securely and brush my thumb against the sensor.

Tried it with my Pixel XL, pinky, ring, middle right side, index under the device.

It is hard for me to bend my thumb to the spot where the sensor would be, and I lose support from my thumb on right side of the device. "Could Drop it"

Does not matter everybody who bought the device knew the sensor was in the back. Why did you buy it if this is a big deal to you ?

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Return then your problem is solved
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] neyenlives:
Do you realize every time you ask this question the answer to it is within the text of my post that you quoted? Lol
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] AstroDigital:
Hold right hand

Pinky bottom device, ring, middle fingers, index closer to the left side, thumb right side closer to the bottom middle.

Not that comfortable in my opinion.

Still have to stretch my thumb to touch the bottom near the middle, and I feel the phone is not supported.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] sleightofhandus:
I returned mine for a few reasons. I did not like the fingerprint location, or the fact that it didn't offer lift to wake, for quick checks of notifications or time. The lack of waterproofing was another thing I missed. Also lost connection with my watch a few times. All these reasons were add on things though that pushed my decision. The biggest thing to me was the assistant. I would say ok google from screen off and half the time the screen would turn on and wait for my command, half it would vibrate very softly screen still off and accept commands. Then I would say start a timer for 10 minutes or 10 seconds, the assistant would say starting timer but time would pass and no timer would go off. Half the time I would turn on the screen and then the timer would start, but the other half there would be no sign of a timer at all. I really like always listening siri and google and use them very often for timers to cook, reminders, and alarms. I think not being able to set a timer or alarm using google assistant from screen off is pathetic. I didn't have smart lock on at the time, so maybe with it on it would of worked those times when i turned the screen on and the timer would finally start. The other times though I have no idea what was happening besides google saying starting timer only to find no timer. Guess I will wait to see what is coming with the s8, I really like having apple pay on my watch and if I got a samsung I could get samsung pay on their watch. Back to the iphone 7 plus and nexus 6 for now I guess.