yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Tornado] illi:
I am one of those who would prefer a ''clean" ROM. I dont like some application and those I like can be installed on SD. There is also the issue of the software being upgraded later on. I know those that I dont like can easily be 'hidden' by removing the .lnk files. So to me its not a big deal not gaining any additional memory/storage. Probably the 'lost' memory /storage can be used to increase the page pool making the device speedier:cool: Just a thought!!:D

To achieve the dream of 'clean' ROM, I would have to cook my own; unfortunately I am not and never will be a ROM cooker! (Not everyone can be a chef:p and be good at it.) so whatever 'meal' that is served, I shall gratefully 'eat' it.

Thanks ROM Cookers
[HTC Tornado] sairon:
Efficasoft SMS Counter would be awesome. However, it's not free :(

http://www.efficasoft.com/smscounter.html
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Then it's out of the question!
[HTC Tornado] dadme:
Or SmartToolkit RC08 1.0

http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?id=3253

or http://www.e-natives.com/

its an very good utility, with many functions and just 175kb size.
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
It's a nice utility, but it is very frequently updated. I would prefer to include something more "stable" :(
[HTC Tornado] UserN1:
In peace man :)No problem. I understand your opinion. Did you read my latest text?

In know that EA's ROM, your's and vjgrace's ROM are based on Shark's ROM, but I didn't know that latest update Shark's ROM is the same core and implemented tweaks/fixes are already in these ROM's. SORRY for my ignorance....

...and...OK, no problem.

One more I suggest this apps:

mostly: contacts menu - utilits for sending visiting card via sms/email TESTED

then

Acrobar Reader LE (quite big)

Total Commander

Office 6.0+

Xbar (not freeware)

...

I admire ROM Cooker so thanks!Nice Time
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I thought we have the feature in WM6?
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Cool it man, NiTro:cool:

You asked for the public's opinion so be cool when you get unreasonable request. Just ignore them if you dont think the suggestion does not meet your criteria. We are merely users very much dependent on generous ROM cookers who are ever willing to share their efforts and precious time.

Thank you
[HTC Tornado] eZop:
Please create possibility set bluetooth name and set additional 2 system alarms as in Oxios Alarms.

Thank You in Advance
[HTC Tornado] UserN1:
You thought right :) but me didn't function correct in older ROM. Now i have tested and all is OK so forget this program sorry :o
[HTC Tornado] dadme:
Windows Mobile 6.1 if its posible.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/29/microsoft-shows-next-version-of-windows-mobile-behind-closed-doo/

:)
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
I'm waiting for the key... You'll have your WM6.1 as soon as I get it! :p
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Just a reminder:

You can post your favorite ROM tweaks (registry keys and values) and perhaps I could implement them in control panel. ;)
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
One of my favorite tweaks is disabling the SMS sent message (I haven't figured out any other way to not get a prompt every time you send an SMS message).

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings

DWORD: SMSNoSentMsg = 1

Works like a charm.
[HTC Tornado] ascorpion:
Its just a list of my suggestion, ur choice what u do with them :)

Include: Htc task Manager, WM5torage (i'd like to be able to add any extra stuff myself)

and some teaks... like:

*Change the location of Temporary Internet Files on Storage Card

* Fully unlocked

and please dont add startup/shut down sounds ;)

Anyway im sure u will do ur job very well, good luck ;)

Take care.

PS.

In one of tornados ROM i saw a lot of new options in settings... for example setting pictures like under MENU, setting sound path, cant remember which ROM it was...
[HTC Tornado] Profy_X:
you can put this if you are agree :Office,Smart explorer,in games you can`t include beside the solitaire celeris virtual pool 2007,basehue...:p
[HTC Tornado] sairon:
I wouldn't recommend moving something to storage card. These tweaks can be included in an additional file but the ROM won't be useable on phones without storage card with these tweaks included.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
No way man, Office can be installed on SD card
[HTC Tornado] Profy_X:
not on SD card on the main memory...
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
NiTroGenious don't forget about the MMS Network tweak that I've told you a while back!! :d.

And BT DUN is not included in those build AFAIK. You have to instal cab manually. Don't know if you've allready included in one of your ROMs.

Also, don't forget about BT Explorer.

And, you should modify the profiles & registry for removing the 3sec delay while ringing.

Good luck!
[HTC Tornado] lanny:
Here is a another great sw which can be replaced w/ both OxisoAlarm and Sleepwell.

It has similar userface to OxisoAlarm. Its so snappy, stable and smaller, even though its not stronger than SchedyMobile.

http://www.efficasoft.com/alarmu/index.html
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Will your ROM have Bluetooth FTP?

And I would like to have HTC Streaming Player, perhaps you can attach the cab file
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
All included features are listed in the (regularly updated) first post. ;)
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Why do people continue to post hacked software? I mean people - if you want to install hacked software on your own devices, go on ahead. But please don't advocate for them as part of a wider released ROM. Just a thought IMHO.
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
And especially software which can be registered using a key generator.

So, Lanny, do you want me to include the keygen in the ROM or set the generated key in the registry so that you'll have to keep the username I'll choose for you?
[HTC Tornado] lanny:
Sorry, i just forgot something.:o
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
Do you mean it is disabled permantly or just for that one instance of inputting data? I was hoping for something permanant.
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
WM5torage Tweak

Is there a way to prevent WM5torage supress listing the message "Would you like to view the pictures on your storage card now" on the phone every time it is deactivated. Maybe a registry setting? That would be a nice addition to a new ROM.
[HTC Tornado] rameshb_v:
Please add the moBlue for Bluetooth file transfers. http://moblue.hejhej.org/ . we can store the incoming beams to the designated folder with this.

...Thanks:)
[HTC Tornado] kentchristopher:
Nitro,

Here's a suggestion (connected with the recent posts on SIP / VOIP):

Is it possible to add the VOIP stack that Andot used in the PEE ROM?

I'm not sure what others have experienced, but for me that has been the only ROM that has implemented the WM6 VOIP feature without problem.
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
I'll compare the 2 VoIP stacks to see if there are any differences.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Every morning I check the forum in breathless anticipation of Nitro's highly looked forward to ROM release! :D
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Please be patient. I do not want to rush into releasing a new ROM. It will be released when it is ready and thoroughly tested. In the meantime, vjgrace and I are working together on implementing all those new features. ;)

I'm still looking forward to your suggestions, especially the ones related to registry tweaks. :)

And I'm also waiting for Shark to release its new ROM based on the new XIP v5.2.1711.18165.0.5.0 (keep up the good work, mate), for kartam to find the correct SDHC driver and for kkrull to verify the SAP support.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
No rush at all. I just thought I'd add some encouragement to all the work you're putting in. :)
[HTC Tornado] juan3211:
Did you remember me ?

I've said that it could be a great idea being able to change the postpone times of the reminders. (insted 1, 2, 5, 15, .. minutes, I would prefer 30 min, 1h, 2 h, 4 h, 1 d, 2 d, .... buy someone would prefer something diferent)

I don't know where to find in the registry, but it will be a good tweak for your rom.

Thanks,

Does anybody know ?
[HTC Tornado] princepavs:
Nitro i have been usin ur ROM for last 25 days n still dont hav any problem except a few lil ones wich i would like u to rectify is alarm wich nvr works on time.... plus it doesn't repeats... plz check it thanks for a awesome ROM
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
I would like to see a control panel tweak for the keypad light time-out. There was an official ROM out (for a short time) that had this.

A tweak to change the way alarms/alerts repeat (actually, I think the ROM I'm using has this, but a little limited in choices, just gives me a "revolve" option).

A tweak to put cache and everything (or various individual things) onto SD. Certain ROM makers don't automatically set for storage to SD, for reasonable reasons, but choices would be a great thing.

-----------------------------------------

If there is any room available, the inclusion of popular themes or Home plugins on the ROM might be a nice idea. Many apps like Oxios can be kept on SD, but many plugins, schemes, and Home screens can only run easily from the device.

I really think that there is a dearth of quality home screens for the Tornado, but if we had a standard set of community approved plugins, we could create, mod and share Home screens.

I am disappointed with Smartphone in regards to its PIM utility. Nothing resembling GTD or Franklin-Covey usefulness exists for at a glance.

This last one is only a suggestion. I may well be moving on from smartphone soon when the Touch Cruise becomes available.
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
Don't wait for me...

You might not want to hold this up for me. First, my phone went berzerk this morning and required a hard reset. (I'll post some details shortly) Second, it turns out my firend's car is not SAP compatable even though several writers claimed that it was. I am not sure if any of the local dealers will let me test my phone on their cars. We'll see. I will try.
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
minor comments...

Since I was reconfiguring from scratch I noticed a couple of things. One is that the screen dimming application (which I love) flickers with this brief message from the Microsoft developer who wrote it when it is enabled. It would be nice to get rid of that message altogether if possible.

Also the application automatic keylock is enabled by default. You might want to think about disabling it so that new users don't get confused when their phone locks.

Anyway, I look forward to testing the new build.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Ok.. You can second my vote on the following (really good suggestions)

- Registry entry in CP to relocate location of caches (to SD card, for example). Right now I have to run a cab file I downloaded from Surreal Networks to make that move every time.

I also really like the idea of some nice and sexy homescreens. The default ones are so sucky. This may be redundant though. There's some really nice work going on here.
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
It would be really cool to have a menu in the configuration options to change the short and long soft keypress options. I change the button from wireless manager to comm manager with every build, same with the voice press.
[HTC Tornado] kkrull:
No SAP news

I stopped by my local car dealer and tested jasjamming's bluetooth CAB on a brand new car and couldn't tell if it worked or not.

Does anyone know (probably from having SAP working on another Windows Mobile device) if SAP shows up on the profile screen under the bluetooth device like where the checkbox is for 'handsfree'? If it should, then this CAB didn't work on the tornado.

If, in the place where you type in to sync the car to the phone you type in the specific code instead of the '1234' code but otherwise the installs are the same, then I didn't try it right and we still don't know. As nobody knew what the SAP code was for that car I couldn't try it that way.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
@Nitro: Since VJ's 3.4 is supposed to be similar to yours, I have a comment on the hardware key configuration. Great idea!! How much work would it be to be able to point to a custom link or app? For example, I like the Flashlight application, and would love to map that to a hardware key.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Now, you see there, many of these Home screens use a very common base of plugins. If a ROM cooker is just going to throw in "usefull" apps (in lieu of the pre-packaged crap we don't use, or can be run instead from the SD) in order to fill the image and not lose space, then why not include these most common of plugins?

The HTC Home plugin was a nice add (sorry, but I forget the name of that cooker and if I open a new tab/browser window to check it marks the forum "read"), bt the ROM itself doesn't intrigue me as much as VJ's. Maybe if someone finds a way to make it more efficient for our puny phones...

However, one of my reasons in getting a smartphone (and I hate "candybar style phones... I like flips) was that I had expected windows mobile to offer more for time management solutions. You see, I have ADHD. When I'm not medicated, I need reminders to put a fire under my butt. When I am medicated, I need reminders to help me switch tasks. I need a way to look at my day and (see) prioritize(d) tasks.

So far, only a few nice Facade-based home screens (Pearl and Twilite) work nice for me, but Facade costs money and we shouldn't get the forums in trouble with warez (Aaarrr! And we ought to kheelhaul anyone who causes the forums trouble!). I only point these out because of their utility (and generally excellent styling).

Now... :rolleyes: I'm sure that there's a rule somewhere that when you talk about a cab you have to post a link... :D
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Good lord, Exitao! :D

Here you go.. :rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Thank you kindly!

Lots of good stuff there too.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Hey no problem. Though I do agree with you. I should have shared that link anyway - I have found lots of useful little things there. One reason I didn't was that most of the stuff is from the WM5 days. And we are all living in the age of enlightenment. :D
[HTC Tornado] djsleepwalker:
I would like to see the ability to get rid of the "Internet Calling: Service Blocked" notification on the homescreen. I know why it's there and what it's for, but as I'll never (but NEVER) use it, I'd like to get rid of the darned thing.

Other than that, I'm pretty well set. My Vodafone V1240 - SP5 clone w/silver keypad - is my first Smartphone and first experience with Windows Mobile, and darn it, I'm hooked. I just don't care about Internet Calling. :lol:
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Internet Calling is VoIP le, you can actually manually edit the home screen xml file, remove certain lines
[HTC Tornado] Shiryu:
Just change extension to .xml and replace your Windows Default homescreen (in \Application Data\Home folder) with attached one ;)
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Although I haven't posted for some time, I watch this thread regularly as well as the one about vjgrace's ROM. The thing is that my free time is limited (university duties), so I'm a little behind schedule. :o Also the Christmas vacation is already here and have to go to my hometown on Friday. That means that I won't be able to work on the new ROM for the next two weeks. Anyhow, I want you to know that there's a lot of progress done on the new ROM (by both vjgrace and me) and it will worth the waiting. ;)

Merry Christmas, guys (and girls), and Happy New Year. Keep on posting your suggestions.... :)

Nick
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Suggestion to include option to tweak Active Sync name

HKLM/Ident
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Can we have the HTC Home? I don't know how your battle with space is going, but plugins in the ROM are better than alarm applications which can be run from SD...
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Do you really like this? I guess I've never played with it enough to get to like it.

Nitro: It's a bummer. I had vacation time till the end of the year, and I was looking forward to playing with your ROM over the break. But totally understandable.. Enjoy yourself..
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
As it goes, it's rather stylish. It updates the home screen to something current. The plugin itself can be used in more ways than that homescreen (someone else has already modified it to use facade).

Really, I'd like to see stuff like SmartMonitor, and LCD plugin, a freeware weather plugin, maybe a calender plugin... The basics for use in most homes.

If this particular homescreen is popular enough to get them in, I can procrastinate from learning to do it myself... :D

Of course, learning to make my own homescreens is also on my list of things to do...
[HTC Tornado] illi:
With 200+ files, its a memory juggler, as well as it hogs the system. I manage to move all the files, modified the registry, BUT it still slows down the device. For weather I use the free Worldmate's home screen. I think I got the link to worldmate at modaco.com.

thanks
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Hmm... I was asking about the HTC Home in the other thread, about the speed. We Tornado users have puny memories and processors, so I guess this is the problem.

I'll check out your weather dohickey.
[HTC Tornado] JaLooNz:
Makes me wonder if the next ROM can fix all the ugly looking icons and replace it with some XPize / Vista icons.
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
I know it's propably just me, but i think the main ROM should only be filled with all those apps that are forced to install on the ROM itself (Live Messenger as an example) and everything that CAN be installed externally should come in extra package.

If possible, to even number the installations (like 1 - Plugin / 2 - Office...) that way i think you will maximize the amount of space with usefull programs and not waste it with things you can install on the memory card.

But that's just me :rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
HTC Home, It's a nono, I have to hard reset because this home screen slows the entire phone down, even scrolling in start menu is laggy
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
@karhoe, i think you have slow downs because of the autoupdate of the weather plugin part. Atleast for me, when i disabled it from Auto to Manual, it is now working smoothly for the past few days.

Personaly i find this HTC Home an excellent home screen, i've combined it with Facade / SmartBattery and Skype and i don't really need more then that :D
[HTC Tornado] djsleepwalker:
Ooh, +1. Definitely.
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Do you know if the weather plugin works only with a direct internet connection? I have mine through a proxy, and the weather never updated. Fizz weather seems to work just fine though.
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
I have no idea... it works for me from both ActiveSync (USB/BT) and WiFi, but I don't have any proxy setup to know if it will work thru it, sorry :confused:
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Really? I didn't know that, how do I disable the auto update?
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
@karhoe, go into the plugin itself, on it's menu go to Options and you will have the Autoupdate part. Just unclick it, for me, once i've done that, my Tornado has started working flawlessly.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
It was still slow even when I moved all files to SD and edit the registry. So I uninstalled:( this good/nice piece of Homescreen.

As for weather Homescreen, you can get free FizzWeather from Handango.com for FREE but TODAY (Friday) only.
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
@illi, have you tried to use with OmapClock ? it could boost your phone speed, when i use Skype i put it at 252 and everything works great here :rolleyes:

PS: i went to HandaGo, but i don't see Fizz for free :(
[HTC Tornado] illi:
I dont think I want to activate OmapClock; simply because I am more concern of ensuring lasting battery life.

For Fizz, go to http://modaco.com first.
[HTC Tornado] Shiryu:
Check here: http://www.handango.com/FreeAppFriday.jsp
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Hey thanks for passing this along!!! I love having legal software on my phone. :D
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
@Shiryu, thanks! found it! :D
[HTC Tornado] Shiryu:
Your welcome ;)

I check this site every friday ;) I also like having legal soft on my SP :D
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Please, guys, don't go off-topic.

I see that many of you want a version which includes Windows Live and the new HTC homescreen and no other extra apps. I think I'll grant your wish! ;) But be patient, because I'm away from home atm and I'll return on my "cooking duties" after Jan 7th.

Happy holidays to all!!! :)
[HTC Tornado] Sefy:
Actually, i do want extra apps, but only the kind that can't be run from the SD, like Live Messenger which is forced, and a few of the home screen plugins like the RJ time and Shortcut which are small but usefull :rolleyes:

Also, if it's possible, the Startup Sound is extremly large (512k) if it's possible to make it smaller (or MP3?) it will be nice too. Ok ok, i'm pushing it :D
[HTC Tornado] illi:
PIM Backup is now 2.6 at http://dotfred.net

I have installed and working fine.

Thanks & Merry Xmas Nitro:)
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Suggestion/Question:

Is there a BlueTooth homescreen plugin? The ROM I'm using now allows clicking the Date/Time plugin to open the HTC Comm Manager or the Wireless Manager.

Being able to one-click activate/deactivate a bluetooth headset would rock.

Edit:

Here's an example of one.

Now it would be nice if plugins didn't have to take up and enire row/line so we could make lines more useful.
[HTC Tornado] bestever:
why no put in coolcamera and a shortcut to it maybe snap butn
[HTC Tornado] ianmills:
'Small' fonts being selectable in the System font size would be a welcome addition (although this is maybe what you meant by 96dpi in the first post?) :)
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Because cool camera can run from SD, and vjgraces ROM (and thus Nitro's will too) has ability to assign your keypresses, so you can do it yourself.
[HTC Tornado] ialail:
I would like it too...
[HTC Tornado] redred:
it would be nice if the "request message delivery notification" could be receive as quick message ( like in the symbian )
[HTC Tornado] pauliusba:
I would suggest a 'vanilla' rom with latest build, fixes and researches implemented. It could contain all the default software like Windows Live, Office (with latest patch). It would be a perfect choise for flashing other people's phones who just want an upgrade without losing too much of WM5 software and getting WM6 benefits (including additional WM6 software). No celetask please.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
I second this idea and have proposed it when the first cooked ROM was released. Unfortunately most of the ROMs are cooked to the coolers preferences.

It seems memory is the main issue.

thanks
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Sorry but I dont think its a good idea to have these in ROM. What about FreeStyl (http://freestylwm.com) then? Someone may want this instead of HTC homescreen.

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Nah, no WLM and Office please. The latest version of WLM CAN be installed on storage card, while Office definitely can be installed on storage card
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Yes, it does seem to be the cooker's preference.

I personally see nothing wrong with a Vanilla ROM, but I personally see no need for it either. I quite like the apps that came with my ROM.

However, I do recal using a ROM that was so cluttered it felt buggy. So I do understand.

It is nice to see Pauliusba using honey now. ;)

For anyone who really wants a special ROM, I know that Nitro needs a second Tornado for testing. I bet that he'd build you a ROM to your specs if you got him one...
[HTC Tornado] illi:
IMHO any application that can be installed to SD Card and doesnt impact performance should be left out of the ROM. I see no point putting the software in ROM if the purpose is simply to optimize the Memory/Storage. Probably its time to seriously look into the memory/storage issue rather than getting new ROMs every now and then; while we argue what should be in the ROM. It is not productive to have ROM releases too frequent; not only on the part of the Cookers but also users - know what I mean?

Let's have just one more release from NiTroGenious; probably a WM6.1:cool:

Once the bug issues are solved on that ROM maybe we can look at other issues that is of mutual interest. I am curious to know what can be improved on the memory/storage issue. Another is homescreen. Right now I found two contenders, HTC Home Screen and FreeStylwm.

Anyone have a better idea?