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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
My social responsibility?? Seriously? Social justice warriors find a way to squirm into every conversation. There is a minute chance it will catch fire, which was more that Samsung could tolerate because they don't want to be sued. It doesn't mean it is soooo dangerous you should immediately shut it off and put it in a steel box in your garage (see earlier post from SJW). And more dangerous than a loaded gun?? WTF? A loaded gun is not dangerous at all. Somebody has been watching too many "H" press conferences.

There are plenty of dangerous things in the world. You don't have to be scared of everything. If it does catch fire, you'll be okay. Promise.

DESPITE WHAT SAMSUNG SAYS, I AM CERTAIN SAMSUNG DIDN'T RECALL THE NOTE 7 BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE BEING HURT; RATHER THEY ARE WORRIED THERE MIGHT BE A 100 PHONES OR SO THAT CATCH FIRE, EACH COSTING THEM A HUNDRED MILLION IS LAWSUITS.

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This...makes sense. Video is old, but I believe accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cd2WIxKRDk
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
Whatever the reason is from Samsung, it is everyone responsibility to others around us. If the phone combust in your pocket.. well, not so bad. But if it does near a combustible / flammable object, and create a tragedy indirectly... evacution, property loss, life loss... it will not be Samsung answering for that anymore. I guess the point here is, it is not whether it will or will not combust... but when and where it combust. If none can answer, it is common sense that safety prior everything.

But I guess we'll never feel the pain unless it befall us isn't it?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I cannot believe I am reading tripe like this. I can only assume Apple has paid a load of people to go trolling or something. Quite the most nauseating and ridiculous post in amongst the many other pearls of crap on this forum.

This is a PHONE, not a nuclear device.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
Seriously dude.. you said it. Read my other post if you have doubt. This is a phone.. you just said it yourself. I'm not saying it is a mass destruction weapon. Read carefully and exercise common sense.

And keep it decent.. not personal. Have some manners.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I am exercising plenty of common sense mate. What I object to is other people seeking to ENFORCE others to obey THEIR view of what common sense is.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
So am i? Which part of my post made you feel that?

While I'm trying to reason and got branded a fanboy or what?

How am I able enforce others to obey?

Ultimately it is your choice and decision and be responsible for it. I guess a lot of others are just trying to point out that prevention is always better than cure.. especially when the cure comes to late.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] painterceessie:
I am with you.

Me too.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] apprentice:
Belonged to a Chinese tourist. So really it's likely not a European variant or purchased in the UK

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I think you will still find quite a few apple trolls here.

XDA has stopped becoming community spirited and now there are endless threads from people who just have to shove their opinion in others faces whatever the cost.

The OP posted a simple question about how to disable the crippleware from Samsung. It should then have been replies on how that might be possible. But instead we get the "holier than though" brigade dictating to others when it's really none of their business. There are plenty of other posts that cover the debate on whether to keep or return the Note 7, but it's as if all Note 7 threads are being patrolled by vigilantes.

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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
Also, with respect to that situation the BBC reported that was the second Note 7 for that person - they had an original production model, it failed and then Samsung replaced it with the second production model and that one failed as well.

I'm no expert at math, not by a long shot, but I'm sure someone out there could work out the probability of a single customer having two of the same devices fail back to back. I also wonder if that particular twist of fate - the same person with two devices and both fail - has happened to anyone else.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Belimawr:
to be fair I was always more worried about my replacement than my original, the original never got warm no matter what I was doing, the replacement always ran warm, I always felt more uneasy with the replacement than the original I had.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
This thread's getting stupid. What difference does any of this make any more? For the 100ish pre/post "death" of the Note7 incidents it's between their owners, their lawyers, and Samsung. Pages of debate about how sick the Note7 is/was doesn't matter once the patient has died. The Note7 is dead. Everyone using one has been warned. Anything that happens from that point forward has nothing to do with Samsung but instead has to do with people knowingly using a product that was killed less than two months after its launch because of a flaw that, to this point, doesn't seem to have been diagnosed.

I'd bet anyone here that within the next 30 days Samsung will push an update out rendering the Note7 unusable. If that's not possible carrier's will start blocking network access, Play apps will all revert to "this application is not compatible with your device" for every app on the phone, Google will block access to Play Services, and Samsung will disable Samsung accounts for Note7's killing access to their content and apps. No one in the mobile software, electronics, and wireless industries want anyone using a Note7. To continue to try is fighting a losing battle.

How, why, and when the defect happened is also pretty much irrelevant at this point. Samsung's been building solid products in the millions since the first smartphone was launched. Either you chalk what happened to the Note7 up as a fluke and stay with Samsung or you can think they're incompetent and move on to another brand. No matter what camp you're in trying to convince the other camp to come around to your way of thinking is a useless debate. I gave up my Note7 for two Samsung products - a S7 Edge and a 8" 4G Tab A w/S Pen. And nothing I've read, experienced, and certainly nothing I've heard in the Note7 forum make me question my decision. YMMV.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
This is what drives me crazy. None of us know the EXACT conditions in which these failures are occurring. Did you ever stop to think that the same person had 2 failed devices bc of a fault cable or charger they were using? Maybe their behavior with the phone duplicates the problem and if they got a third phone it would fail too. I'm not saying that is the case either but I'm not going to be an alarmist when nobody can explain why the failures are happening until research is done.

I'm keeping my Note 7 and for all the alarmist about me keeping it putting others in danger don't worry... I only keep my phone near gas pumps, propane and oxygen tanks etc. So there is nothing to worry about. <-SARCASM

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Don't worry Barry. I only charge my phone next to gas pumps.

Also, what about these cars where ppl left their phones in the car charging and the car caught fire. How do you charge your phone when your car is off and has anyone determined what the temp of the car might have been when the phone exploded? I need more facts before just believing anything anyone says.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
Only point 3 applies?

I think point 2 is extremely valid.

If someone wants to keep using their device until they are in a better position to replace it, fine. But minimize risk to others and DO NOT bring the device on an airplane. Doing that at this point would be, in your words "not smart".

When an airline travels into another country they must follow the host countries rules and regulations, or their own, whichever is most restrictive. So, the EASA (Europe's version of the FAA) has not banned the Note 7. The ban would apply travelling into North America or any other country who's regulatory authority has banned them. That being said I think we can all agree travelling with a Note 7 on any confined space (airplane, bus, subway) leaves you open to the litigation in point 3.

If it was my airplane, I would charge you period.

I do miss my Note 7, can't wait for what's next.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Why are you so confrontational and down right rude? You lose your point as soon as you become so personal.

No need for it. Fight your corner like the devil but play by the rules of common forum behaviour. :angel:

We all feel mighty upset about this whole Note scenario but its over now for most of us as we have most reluctantly returned this wonderful device.

Many posters are merely requesting you may like to think about doing the same for the sake of others safety. You certainly don't HAVE too YET. I would think its a possibility that it may well come to the phone either being bricked and-or the government will step in and make owning it illegal.

I detest the nanny state, however the nanny state will step in if others measures fail. Like you, I wanted to keep this mobile...I had to think immediate, short and long term though and no matter how I tried to justify keeping this mobile it always came back to the 'what ifs'. What if my phone causes a fire etc blah blah. I didn't consider myself responsible for making that decision regarding 'others' safety.

I fell on the side of safety, bit the bullet and cussed all the way to the shop to return it and cussed all the way home afterwards. I am still cussing the loss of not only the Note 7 but the hundred euros of SAMSUNG accessories that I am stuffed with! Grrrr.

Samsung in this country even wanted the 'free gift' back! "£$"£$$%^&.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
You're kind of missing the point. I've said a couple of pages back I think the defect is as claimed in the .01% range. I've also said no phones have "exploded" nor caught "fire." If anything they implode and the event is very fast as the pics I've seen haven't shown the phone getting hot enough to melt the plastic home button less than an inch away from the battery.

That said, what's the point of holding on to a phone that's dead? There won't be any updates, you can't legally fly with it, and little by little it'll be disabled by Samsung, Google, and the wireless carriers. Truly, isn't it time to move on? At this point, what's keeping you tethered to such a tarnished and negatively viewed phone regardless of whether or not you'll be a victim of a defect?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] CerveCesar:
Hey Mike, I see you have a Cowboy personality like me. I'm using this widget to keep track and try not to go over 40C. As well as 80% charge.

We ran a study for the battery type, aluminum body and charging conditions. And found it to be the most likely cause of ignition.

I'm really upset about the Airplane ban. But, I'll try not to fly with my Note 7?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
Why do I need updates? This phone is amazing enough and I'm sure it'll get me through until the S8 in Feb - March. I'm on a replacement Note and trust me, I use my phone a lot, use fast wireless charging at home and in the car and it feels and behaves just like my s7 edge that I had. I admit the only thing I see I might lose is resale value.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ubl:
So is this thread a wish from some Samsung hater? "Please brick all Note 7 owners?"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, accepting your 'logic' can you tell me why Samsung have recalled the mobile, stopped all production for good and taken a loss of multi billions? Doesn't that fact alone give you pause to reflect? :cool:

For Samsung to have fallen on the sword as they have they must have had an iron clad case for taking the action they have. Why? Just to spite us or maybe make the fruity brand even more bucks?

Look at the bigger picture.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] megatooth:
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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
I wouldn't doubt that one of the reasons Samsung went into panic mode and fell on the sword was bc the media hype was becoming too overwhelming for them. Not based on anything factual. Even they haven't been able to exactly reproduce the "explosions". Especially with the replacement devices. Have they even been verified as replacement devices that exploded? I've only heard that the one guy didn't want to turn his over for examination.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
So your answer to the reason you're keeping it is it's an amazing phone? I thought so too and the S7 Edge is no Note7. I've got enough drama in my life without adding the self-induced kind. I was toying with the idea of nursing my Note7 along until the S8 came out too. Then the FAA made it illegal to fly with it under any circumstances. Then I got two AT&T text messages a couple of hours apart telling me to turn my phone in. I had two choices - continue to fight a battle I couldn't win or resign myself to the inevitable. I chose the latter. Life's too short to stress out about a mobile device. No matter how amazing it is/was.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
Yeah it's an amazing phone and I have no proof to tell me that I can expect my phone to explode. Trust me though, I'm not stressing about it. I'm going to keep it until the s8 or they blacklist my imei. Until then, I'll be using the heck out of it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I hate playing the numbers game, Samsung recalled the first Note 7 batch after producing 3.5 million and less than 20 known reported cases of destruction. At the time it was hardly world news. After the first recall the mobile problem became greater and greater.

Due to customer pressure Samsung rushed the second batch out before they had resolved the initial problem or problems, there may well be more than one problem here? Crap now I am joining in the speculation game.

Perhaps Samsung should have stopped production, taken some time to truly investigate why this mobile goes pop?

Problem there was customers like me who wanted my replacement yesterday.

In honesty non of us truly know what goes on at Samsung, all our opinions are just that and Samsung isn't going to tell us yet, though I suspect they may well know? Well, if they don't know it doesn't say much about them as electronics makers yet they are one of the top brands world wide in this area and that makes me think they know something but are not telling? Its a mobile phone not the space shuttle!

I understand you seek facts, we all do but there is only one all pervading fact at present and that is Samsung has made a recall and stopped production for good on this mobile? They must have a reason for doing that surely?

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] themissionimpossible:
I think so too.

IMHO I speculate that there is an irremediable design flaw in the Note 7 circuit board or in some components that possibly causes a short circuit in the battery connections.

The effort to redesign a Note 7 V.3 model (that would likely require also a new FCC/TENAA/etc. certification process) wouldn't be worth for Samsung, especially considering that this new version would be available not before another couple of months, and at that time an SD 820 based phone would be a bit outdated for a top of the range model in comparison to the newest SD 821 models coming at the end of this year, some of them also sporting a dual camera (that today appears as a must have for the next phone generation).

So I believe that after the V.2 failure Samsung eventually opted to spend all their resources in developing the new S8, probably with an SD 830/835 processor and a dual camera, and give up with the Note 7.

Now I hope the new S8 will be available for purchasing within the next February, just immediately after the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
Idk... If it was a circuit board defect or other component don't you think there would've been more failures? 2 million devices and only 50-80 phones that most likely haven't been thoroughly reviewed sounds more like cheap/faulty USB type-c cables randomly purchased versus a circuit board that was mass produced and used in 2 million devices.

I mean, not saying you are wrong bc I don't know either but in my opinion it sounds like other variables need to be looked into too. It's too bad Samsung folded way too early instead of grabbing a hold of it and combating all of the media hype with actual science and facts.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
They will know but whether they knew when they issued what they thought were "safe" phones leads me to believe they didn't at that point. Or more likely just assumed it was specific batteries. Whatever the assumption of the battery being the cause was had to be a good one otherwise government bodies wouldn't have signed-off on it as a fix. Had they stopped sales and recalled the first wave units they could have laid low for a month or two and thoroughly researched the problem. A second re-launch of "really safe" phones two or three months later would have been a lot less catastrophic. From a credibility perspective they really had no choice but the nuclear option once it became clear the original assumption of the problem was false. If there's a bright side all future Samsung products will be the most highly QC'd and tested in the mobile industry. Nothing like catastrophic failure to bring a sense of humility. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Belimawr:
I use to work in a factory that made PCB's and the fact is with how small the tracks are you can find ones where the tracks start to lift due to not plating correctly or over etching, if these were to move the wrong way it would cause a short, since the fastest way to test a board is using CNC node testing these problems wouldn't be picked up but could be there, the other alternative is the problem is actually with the structure of the components allowing them to create a short under certain conditions, the fact is it is something we will never know and the truth is a circuit board failure would come into the standard failure rate as the size of the circuits means the tracks have to be as close and fine as they are, so it is more likely it is something more integral that they could put down to a standard defect.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
The best hypothetical reason I've heard was that Samsung's proprietary quick charging mechanism was pushing more current to the battery than was appropriate in order to achieve a goal of "X% in X amount of time." I don't remember where I heard it and it's no more factual than what's being talked about here and elsewhere. It kind of made sense to me since Samsung doesn't use Qualcomm's Quick Charge which is now on its third revision yet they have to deliver similar results. It could be that plus some deviations in specific battery cells that together cause the problem. Again, all supposition on my part.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] apprentice:
Dear god, these comments are just going round and round in circles. Wasn't the original poster asking for a workaround for the crippleware??

I believe someone gave a possible answer.

This debate has just become like all the others. It's futile.

If you are keeping your Note 7 then keep it.

If you returned your Note 7 then move along.

Save these arguments for some other thread.

We are all responsible for our own actions, so can we just deal with it? Please?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] TomTanderson:
First person I've ever heard defending credit card companies. They have spent decades abusing their semi-monopoly position by overcharging retailers for their services, to the point that the EU forced them to reduce how much they can charge retailers! It was common for small retailers to have to pay credit card charges of over 4% on every transaction but those charges have now been limited to about 1%

And you are also wrong. The charge-back goes back to the retailer (credit card companies never lose out), so it is the retailer that loses the money. This is perfectly reasonable in this circumstance - the retailer, whom you have the legal contract with, has failed to provide you with a satisfactory product. It may not be their fault but they then have to remedy that with Samsung themselves.

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Can people stop making up statistics about the likelihood of failure?

Firstly, you don't know the extent of the problem. You are basing calculations on the numbers that make the media.

Secondly you can't assume that the failure rate stays constant because you know nothing about the cause of the problem. For instance, the failure curve may be exponential. So, for example, you may have a failure rate of 0.001% in the fist month but that may rise to 0.01% in the second, 0.1% in the third etc. Those are just examples.

The only people who MAY have some idea of the nature of the problem are Samsung (who have said nothing publicly). If they are prepared to lose $billions by cancelling the Note 7 then I will take their advise and return my device despite the fact I absolutely love it and nothing currently or in the near future will come close to it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] w1n73rf3ll:
hope samsung find the solution! and revive the note! 7 i really love this phone
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PhoenixJedi:
That's the OTHER thing. The reports are OVERHEATING. You can make any phone 'overheat'
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mikesaa309:
But note all note 7s are dangerous it's mainly all to protect Samsung if anything imagine if someone got seriously hurt or even killed then Samsung would face massive lawsuits. Just safer for them to stop note 7s from being used as they don't know the problem and can't or don't want to take that risk. I've put my phone through enough extremities to be pretty confident that it won't explode anytime soon and I keep a check on it's temperature. I'm keeping the note 7 because I need the S-pen and there is no other phone out there that offers a pressure sensitive stylus if there was then I'd exchange it but there isn't so until the note 8 comes out if at all then I'm sticking with the note 7 it's not as dangerous as everyone makes out it is. Guess we should all stop driving cars too as they're potentially dangerous and could kill us etc?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Because I am human and get sick to death of people posting crap, that's why.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] sonhy:
holy carps, nothing has changed in this thread :/

[MENTION=3632819]aengus4h[/MENTION] , the negative button ban may not be a perfect solution but it's a start, as these threads are becoming useless and less informative/ enjoyable, not to mention the miles of scrolling.

I would have clicked the neg button on only 1 user and I think many others would have too... that user would have only been banned from contributing to the thread but free to go wreck havoc on others, these threads would then stay useful to those like minded and future searches.

it's not true that I wouldn't have negged those aggressively on my side, i still would, but maybe not enough others to get them banned, Im not a clone and am quite different, the slightly aggressive user probably wouldn't have reached that point if said troll was removed...

anywho...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
Not sure if Samsung will disable the Note 7 OTA.. but

This seems like a consolation for exchanged users

http://xdaforums.com/s7-edge/how-to/aod-update-1-4-02-s7-t3480321

The S7 edge is getting some note feature. So.. i think it is a good move in a way
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mgbotoe:
Until they make the s7 edge...less edgy, put in the ability to change resolution...i hardly call that bringing over some of the note 7 features...