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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
AND IT'S A DAMNED GOOD THING THEY DID AND I AM QUITE SATISFIED WITH IT HAPPENING.

More companies should be willing to toss in the towel in such situations - this is going to cost Samsung probably $30-50 billion by the time it's finally done with.

You and some other people just seem to keep taking it personally, like Samsung is doing this to you specifically, like they're coming after your phone just to piss you off or something (if you even own(ed) a Note 7, that is).

And it's not over yet, remember that, because a lot of stubborn and rather idiotic people are going to hold onto their devices even in spite of the recall which it where it crosses over from just being pissy about the whole situation and accepting it to being outright selfish and quite stupid. They are now putting other people and property at risk by using a device that has a worldwide product recall in place and trying to rationalize why it's what they feel they must do and they're all failing at that miserably whether you can see it or not.

Samsung made a product, it has problems, damage has been done, they're taking the devices back and you can get a full refund on the purchase price so you don't lose anything in the process. Just because people want to keep the devices doesn't make it any more or less relevant - the recall is in place, the right thing to do is return the device, get the refund, and move on.

Anybody that says otherwise is just being foolish and stupid and potentially putting other people and property at risk.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Oh the irony.

Yet another sanctimonious poster. Putting other people and property at risk? Give over for christ's sake. How many deaths or serious injuries have there been again?

It has a 3500mA battery FFS. Enough energy to boil a kettle for literally 13 seconds. So one might get hot or even catch fire, and then you put it out, as EVERYONE who has had a problem has done successfully. These are not thermonuclear devices.

Anyone would think people were threatening to walk around with a nuclear bomb strapped to their waists. Get a ****ing grip.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PhoenixJedi:
Here's the funny thing about all of this. There is a 1 in 20,652 chance of your Note 7 overheating. There is a 1 in 4,292 chance of getting hit by a CAR. That's right. you have more of a chance of walking out of your apartment and getting hit by a CAR than your note 7 overheating. Now, why dont you all go out and be social justice warriors against cars now since there's more of a risk of that happening to you.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
A phone IMEI blocked can still make emergency calls.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
"Stupid is as stupid does..." -- a fictional movie character that seems to be a lot smarter than the majority it seems. :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
I so agree Chippy, came to post just that. Holy cow some people think they can dictate what other people should do.Such moral highmindedness must mean they are better than everyone who disagrees with them, right?

There are a lot of dangerous things in the world. You are right, if a person keeping the phone has an accident with a potentially faulty device, they are at fault. You get to sue them, and if you cause the death of somebody you are in big trouble. BUT that doesn't give Samsung or anyone else the right to take away your legally obtained product. Recalls are mandatory or voluntary for the manufacturer not the consumer, and I don't believe it is against any law to own/possess this device in the U.S.

Many people such as myself got shafted. I traded my phone, so I cannot go to that. My only real choice is the S-7 at Sprint. And I am furious that I'd be locked into a contract for 2 years on a phone that is about to iterate. Samsung giving previous Note 7 owners a break on the s8 is just pure speculation until they say they're doing that.

And I don't know how the guy above got so lucky, but the Authorized Sprint dealer in Morrow Georgia (Mt. Zion Road) said they are not refunding for cases at all unless you just purchased them and they are within the normal return window. The sales clerk(s) told me that the credits Samsung is issuing is also to cover accessories.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
No, it is not against the law to "own or possess".

The following is against the law and "the law":

1. You cannot sell a recalled product.

2. You cannot carry it on an aircraft. The FAA has now banned it, if you are found onboard with one you will be charged with unlawful interference, and perhaps more. The Captain of the aircraft formally lays the charges. If you tried bringing it on my aircraft I would have you charged with more. Either way you would now be on a do nofly list.

3. Criminal negligence and civil suite action. The manufacturer of the device, and the CPSC has asked you to immediately power down the device and return it. If someone else is injured by your device (try disproving smoke inhalation) you can and most likely will be sued.

Why keep it again?

If you think you are upset about cases, what the merchants about ordered them etc? May Samsung possibly be looking at class action? Maybe. But seriously, if you are currently unable to return your Note 7 (awaiting the box etc) at least power it down and put it in a metal toolbox in your garage or something.

I loved my Note 7 too, but be smart people.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Me too. I spent all day transferring to a S7 Edge. Bottom line is the Note7 is dead. People trying to hold on to it are doomed to fail. Even if Samsung didn't involuntarily render it unusable with a s/w update it'll never be updated again, it'll never see the inside of an airplane, and anyone that sees someone using it is going to think their nuts or incredibly self absorbed. If someone bought their Note7 in a way they can't get refunded or exchanged that's unfortunate. But it doesn't change the fact the Note7 is now a pariah.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Lol the fact that people keep trying to push these phone as "explosives" and "bombs" is outright stupid, you're fear-mongering and spewing misinformation for some weird reason.

Yea ... they're exploding and leveling cities, killing thousands, this phone is basically a brick of c4 ....

OR

REALITY is ... the pop, get hot, blow out some smoke and fizzle out ... yea ... FIZZLE OUT ... get in your aocolypse bunkers guys, there's Note 7s still on the loose!

I doubt I'll keep my Note 7 and that breaks my heart, but until i decide what phone I want and whatever, it gets treated as any of my other non "nuclear bomb" phones. People are seriously being dramatic about it, it's like the millenial ******* are perked and ready to save the world one post or # at a time, fighting thr good fight to save innocent victims of rogue Note 7 terrorists lol. It's incredibly annoying to see the people on here trying to bully people and tell them what to do when ot has no bearing on them, or pretending thry are somehow smarter than the people who didn't run to their carrier to exchange their phones. Seems like the ones who did are just pissed other people still havr theirs and wish they would have kept theirs too.

How many battery geniuses do we have here on XDA? Do you guys have some sort of knowledge we don't? Why are you so mad to thr point of insulting people, about them keeping their phones? Why do you even care?

I'm seriously confused ... mind you're own business and let people do what they want ... unless your roomate has a Note 7 still, you're safe I promise.

The Pop, small amount of smoke and fizzle won't get ya. Isn't there real pressing world issues you guys can SJW about?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Note 7 is more dangerous than a gun? ... Jesus christ.

So you returned your Note 7 ... so you and your house is safe now ... The End. Or go door to door and hand out fliers to people in your neighborhood about the potential threat of keeping their Note 7. I promise if of my Note 7 pops abd Fizzles out tonight, you're safe, it's not gonna light the world on fire.

Stop bullying and insulting people.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
I don't think it's dangerous and believe the .01% defect rate is about right based on a total of 100ish incidents reported. But you and I both know it's going to become more and more annoying to keep the Note7. The nag screen that got pushed as an involuntary midnight update almost drove me crazy. Now that Samsung's lost billions and face over the Note7 they aren't even going to pretend to care about what happens to Note7's still in the wild. With all the people pissed off does what the hold outs feel really matter? So I got ahead of the crowd and just threw in the towel.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] teegunn:
LOL @ as dangerous as a loaded gun. SMH.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
I feel the best solution for those who really love this phone, is for Samsung to provide a free loan S7E until the next SPEN release, and it better have micro SD slot! Else another N5 flop..
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] teegunn:
I would go for that actually. If they would come out with this and guarantee we could get either a 5.7" S8 (if they make such a phone) or the next Note phone I would go for an agreement like that.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
For the sake of us all and Samsung let's all agree on one thing...

If you chose to keep your note 7 and it at some point it pops...make sure no one hears about it. No more damage to the Android ecosystem. No more cancelled flights. Nothing.

If you can do that, then have at it with your note 7
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Ok, so you're trolling the Note 7 forums to do what? Use your great personality and super intellect to warn people of the pending Note 7 apocalypse if they keep the phone? Are you lonely? Or are you just that much of a douche? Who spends this much time and energy posting babble and criticism in a forum dedicated to something they've never owned? You're pompous attempt to look above everyone else is just that ... an attempt, you must be real lonely.

I drive a chevy, so im gonna go sign up to the Toyota forums and insult people about recalls for a car I don't drive.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
I said pretty much the same thing recently but nobody a) cared or b) listened. It wouldn't surprise me if someone that's publicly stated in some place that they intend to keep their Note 7 and continue using it till someone "pries it from my cold dead hands..." as the saying goes ends up actually having an issue with their much loved device would never go on record again publicly and say they did end up having a problem.

So, I agree with the sentiment of this entire post.

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I'm a Samsung device owner (current device is a Galaxy S7 Active) and user for the past decade so that gives me a reason to be involved.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bignibb:
Mechanical failure can cause that chambered round to fire, dropping can cause that chambered round to fire, heat can cause that chambered round to fire, pretty much the same things that cause the Note 7's to catch fire or smoke.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] cisco150:
The note 7 i have is the sprint one n930p unlocked im using it on att as of now till att blacklist it on there network or till i get the shipping box from samsung, but on sprint network is blacklisted. checked imei on ringplus.net
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Who are you?! Why are you here? You stated you've never owned a Note 7 lol so pack your soap box up and dip, let us Current owners and past owners talk.

If you decide to hang onto a potential hazardous device after a recall, then yes you are liable and anything that happens is on you ... I havnt seen one person debate that point in all the threads here on xda. You keep it, thats your problem and yes for the sake of Android and Samsung, if it goes tits up, quietly box it up and bury it in your back yard so we dont have to see the media (and forum trolls) blow this thing completely and utterly out of proportion again.

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No it doesn't lol. You just think it does because you clearly have an out of control ego, almost every appliance in my house is Samsung, from phones to watches to tablets to TV's to Soundbars to BT speakers to washers and dryers and soon a refrigerator.

And im Still not trolling the forums for items I dont have. Your decade of use doesnt make you the "Mayor" or our Mother. Your S7 active is not gonna blow up, so ... you're good. No reason to keep inserting your opinion.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PhoenixJedi:
You know what I think, if you do not have a Note 7 currently and NEVER HAD ONE, you are not entitled to a damn opinion.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
No one else is acting like an annoying, overbearing, long winded, nonsense speaking mom. And so far you're the only one scolding people about the Note 7 who didnt actually possess one. The fact you dont see the arrogance in that proves how arrogant you are.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
And... your point is... and I mean ad hominem notwithstanding, of course... ?

I haven't scolded anyone as my comments are expressed in general, never directed at anyone specific unless it's to answer a direct question and even then it's not on a level of attack like the one you just laid at my feet with the post I quoted above.

I'd say pay attention but your reading comprehension seems a bit off to me.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
Dude, it doesn't work this way. Everyone's entitled ro voice their opinion, Note 7 owners or not. Especially when Note 7 in particular, do involve public safety in a way. Whether it blows up in large scale or just a smoke generaror doesn't matter. Hurt or damages can still be caused . And I'm not even talking about basic rights.

And it applies both way. Just refrain from being too cocky and rude. It is irritating even when the intention is good.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PhoenixJedi:
Dude, everyone who wasnt affected by the recall who is on this forum talking crap about the Note 7 is just overly hostile for no reason.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Still shooting from the hip with the ol' classic, overused, in attempt to look superior, redundant, not funny, not original, I have no where else to go but try and insult someone's intelligence in an attempt to not fave the debate at hand, fail poke at roasting - "reading comprehension" comeback.

If by "reading compression being a bit off" you mean not reading your 38 paragraph nonsense manifesto of something you know nothing about, or idiotic babble about loaded guns being comparable to a battery that pops and smokes when it over heats. Then yes, my "reading comprehension is a bit off"

School me mom.

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Seriously. And acting like moms scolding their children or the frigging safety police. We're all adults here, we make our own decisions, were good, the non-affected smartphone users can cut the cord and let us fly, we dont need your guidance on this issue, lol thanks for your help though.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Not much of that applies here in the UK. Maybe a bit of point (3). But you can be sued for any damage you cause, whether it was caued by your phone or your dog or whatever.

You say, "be smart people", but I don't think your advice is "smart". Look at this from my perspective for one moment and think, if you would.

I am hoping (providing Samsung don't cripple the device) to keep using it for a month or two, ideally until the end of December which as I understand it would be the last opportunity to return it for a refund. Why? Because I'd get a little more use out of the device I love, and I'd have to spend less time using a crappy old phone whilst I wait for the S8. Also, I can get a good look at the Pixel and other phones. You can't find an Axon 7 anywhere here in the UK right now, for example.

There will be no updates or Nougat of course, but who cares, for 2 months? No problem.

There's been ZERO Note 7's here in the UK that have overheated, caught fire, exploded or anything else, so the chances of mine doing do are pretty slim. But how slim? Let's say there's 4 million been sold and 200 have overheated, so that's 1 in 20,000. But what does that mean, in actual terms we can all understand? 20,000 is large(ish) number, but just how unlikely is this?

Let's think of decks of cards. We are talking roughly 400 decks. If we bought 400 decks of cards, the boxes would stand maybe 20 feet tall. Easy to say, but just imagine for a moment that stack of cards standing 20 feet tall! You unpack all the decks and on each card in each deck, you write the deck number (1 to 400) on the face of the card. At task that takes you a couple of days. Now you jumble up the cards and lay them out on your lawn, face down. You then get a neighbour to come over and ask them to pick out the 4 of clubs from deck 259. They get 1 pick.

If they pick that card, my phone will overheat. It won't kill me or seriously injure me though. The card that does that is in deck 75,000 and we've only been talking about 400 decks. The pile of 75,000 decks is half a mile tall and maybe higher.

Chances like this, I can most certainly accept. Especially as I am careful and don't charge the phone unattended, or leave it under a pile of old newspapers etc - just common sense really.

So I think keeping my phone for a couple of months *IS* the smart thing to do. Telling people to shut it down NOW and put it in a metal box and all that stuff? That's not smart, it's being over-cautious.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] apprentice:
I am 100% with this guy!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I think Samsung have made a huge blunder with all of this. I can understand how it's come about, but nevertheless, I think they've panicked and in so doing, chosen the wrong path.

I think the first recall was probably the right thing to do at the time, since they thought they knew what the problem was. In a parallel universe, they would have replaced the 2.5m original units with new ones and the problem would now be fixed and would no longer being discussed. Unfortunately, clearly, it didn't pan out that way, but the logic and aim was sound.

Where they have hugely blundered imho is the speed with which they've put the 2nd recall underway. Clearly they don't know what the cause of the problem is, and given that, I think they should have paused for a few weeks to take stock. By all means offer people a voluntary replacement with an alternative device, or a refund, if that's what the purchaser wanted. And I have no issue with them pausing production.

But my sense is that within a week or two, they will be certain what the issue has been. At that time, it might very well be possible to make an engineering change to fix it. Or maybe even to identify which units are definitely safe and which ones are at risk. They could then have recalled and replaced the units as necessary and moved on. Yes, there would have been a few more overheating incidents, but the rate of those has been much lower with the replaced units and no-one has suffered any serious injury. And critically, people would have had a *choice*.

The way they have handled it, has cost them billions, trashed their reputation and p1ssed off just about every one of the 4 million people who bought them - either p1ssed off at being sold a dud, or p1ssed off at having to return a device you are delighted with.

They've REALLY messed up.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] apprentice:
You really are becoming quite a bore here.

Troll off.

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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi,

In general.

I sincerely understand why our feelings are running high however the one thing we share is the joy of owning technology. Nearly all of us have had an awful experience with the return process (TWICE) over this marvel of a mobile (as I write trying to keep composure myself) We watched for months the news leaks of this coming device, drooled over the specs and more waiting, more rumour, we pre ordered then more waiting until the day comes and we own one. yeeeeh.

What a mobile to own! It was simply superb. Then starts the recall performance. More waiting more hassle. Again we own one then to top that another bloody recall! Its enough to make a vicar kick a hole in a stained glass window! Its been an incredibly bad experience for those of us who are techno junkies.

To this end despite our differences we are a club....why has this forum started, in so many threads, to become so highly insulting and personal?

I have been a member of dozens of forum's over the decades and learned some very valuable lessons. What ever we write will be enjoyed by 50% of the members and disliked by the other 50%.

IF we want our post to be read and our point to be understood we have to write said post in a non confrontational fashion. If we pi55 of the reader regardless how correct our point is, no one will read our post as it is unpalatable. Our valid point is then lost.

Excuse my hypocrisy. I can also lose it big time. Regardless how we may feel about the Note 7 situation and we all have strong feelings, I respectfully suggest we debate this thread with some common courtesy for all points?

If this thread continues like this we know what will happen to it don't we? Lets keep it at least civil eh.

Ryland

NOT a mod!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pigglett:
HAHA thanks for that just made me snort laugh :D
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] invisiblesense:
Exactly the way I feel about how Samsung has gone this. They should have paused maybe for about a month or two to study/review the issues then take necessary action. That way the likelihood of Note 7 surviving would've been very high.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] sonhy:
these threads would not be so explosive if the forum added the negative vote button like other forums... the moment someone gets -10 votes or so, they automatically get kicked from the thread forever, easy self managed threads that allow us the kick out those borderline trolls...

also, an update of the quote function to trim the super long quotes would be nice too :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] htcplussony:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-37624730
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
Probably a China set. I don't know..Chinese guest.. but still possible a local but just chinese race.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] aengus4h:
I disagree here. All that would achieve is that anyone who speaks reasonably but shows a contra view will get quickly neg'd off the threads. Regardless if you own the specific device or not you may have something valid to contribute but in here so many just seem to be yelling troll!

And from what I've seen so far the only aggressive post have in fact come from the "die-hard fanboy" sector who clearly have less regard for third parties who may get caught up in any incident and disregard their social responsibility. Sure you can get sued if something happens and others get affected. Will that compensate those other families for a loss of a loved one? NO.

I used to think it was the fruity brigade who were like this and often seen them critisised or mocked as such, but from this device forum I see little difference, if anything, worse. Sure it WAS a great device, but its dead now for certain, time to move on and look forward to the next great device we get to enjoy
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Thanks. Doesn't change anything though. 10's out of the last 1.5m and a rather strange dearth of new stories coming out for a device that is still 80% out there and is so dangerous it's been canned.

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Die hard fanboy? Loss of a loved one??? We can see exactly where you are coming from with your sanctimonious clap trap.

I am very happily continuing to use my Note 7 and will do so until the day I decide to return it and no amount of bullying or innuendo from frankly stupid people is going to change my mind.