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[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
Hi !

First, free ad : I have ordered the unit to Vera at sales12@winlink-tech.com ont the 25th, paid by Paypal, received with DHL on the 28th ! Paid 309 $ with microphone and extend USB cables. Plus 50 € taxes in France.

I have problems to install because GPS antenna cable is 6" too short for my car (Subaru XV Crosstreck). But I could manage. I put the 4G antennas on the windshiels pillars. It works.

Everything is ok (but I don't use cameras or OBD)

One problem remains : launchchers as Apex or Car Dashdroid don't see pre-installed apps (like radio)

See attached photos
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
Thanks for sharing.

It`s strange that they have not yet published the new firmware with the station info fix when your radio already has it. You can tell us the firm version or date?.

Thanks.:svetius:
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
First of all, thanks to janlwi, who shares this info with us.

I getting a bit annoying about Ownice his misinformation on their devices. CPU-Z shows it is a MT3561 Octa Core A53 with a max speed of 1.3 ghz, on the Ownice website they claim it is a MT3562 Octa Core A53, with speeds between 1.3 and 1.6GHz. The RDS from the radio is good, but is that all it shows? no artist and song what is currently playing?

I will sent BOB a E-mail and asking him why the specifications are different between delivered Octa Core units and what they publish on their website.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
On or in?

I have mine stuck to the cage of the stereo inside the dash and works fine, modern gps receivers do not need to be right next to the windscreen these days. Maybe these receivers are not very good, but I will be trying to install mine that way when then new radios come.
[Android Head-Units] e_rocm:
It is the quad core version.

For me it is a little too frequent so hopefully I can figure something out.

Great, thank you for the suggestion. I will try it out this week and see if it makes a difference.

Thanks everyone for the input.
[Android Head-Units] stoneman14:
Hello everybody!

I am french and I would like to know how you have the name of the radio on the original radio application?

like @ janlwi on his pictures

*

thank you in advance
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
That's fine, but the winshield has an area for better reception, so I placed the antenna in it. For the 4G antennas, it is probably the same. My installation is not so beautiful. But there was no room between the plastic cover and the iron pillar.

An USB key is recognized by the system, but not by Poweramp or Rocket Player.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
So songs stored on a USB stick can't be read by Poweramp? Dam that sucks!
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
Hi !

Here are the photos.
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
I don't know

I put them in the internal SD and it works (14 GB)
[Android Head-Units] HVB83:
I've tried sd card, usb flashdrive and usb hdd. All of them are being recognized by Poweramp.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
I think my octal c500 should be coming today as long as I don't miss the delivery, what is it people want to know about this unit? I think the main thing is the reversing camera coming on instantly right?
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
Hi ! Should be interesting to know why CPUZ see 8 cores and an MT3561 with Mali T720....
[Android Head-Units] Mammûûth:
Yes rear camera delay is the main issue with 4 core version, cant wait to find out if its fixed on octa core version though.

Antutu would be nice too.
[Android Head-Units] Kurt Lund:
Do you have DAB too? I would definitively like to know if DAB is working (more than 10 minutes) on the octa core model.

Thanks

Kurt Lund
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
Thanks!.

Anyone has found this firm(2017.04.14) for download?, the last one I could find is 2017.02.24.
[Android Head-Units] HVB83:
Please be aware that it is more than likely that firmware for quad core and octa core versions is probably different and best case the unit will not accept the image, worst case it bricks your unit.
[Android Head-Units] carstenhjorth:
Anyone had any luck contacting their support? I hear nothing back from them... Have 2 problems, power drain (can bus issue) and DAB only working 10 minutes. I can not recommend buying this unit from a company with no customer service.

Best regards from Denmark.
[Android Head-Units] Logicsystem360:
You should install those apk to see pre installed app :

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B98LAV1RGek9RjJhcUQtYVJiMjQ
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=273616]HVB83[/MENTION] the FAQ is wrong. In 1260 settings there is 'BT Mic Gain" and it has no effect on the microphone input. I believe BT stands for bluetooth but it may be setting for internal MIC also. All I know is that I set it to 0 and rebooted and it did no difference to my external microphone...

With almost all the amplifiers I had some strange noises... I will still try to test some MEMS microphones...

However, I tried an MAX9814 based amplifier and it works great. Actually I used the adafruit board. It seems to work great, at least twice better than just having the electret mic only. I think it sometimes make some noises also but it is very rare and perfectly acceptable in my opinion.
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
If it's any help for you I sent a mail last Friday to sales10@winlink-tech.com and today I received the response.
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
Hi ! Thanks. No conflict with existing apk ?
[Android Head-Units] Logicsystem360:
Nope ! :)
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
[MENTION=7245455]Bob-Winlink[/MENTION] would it be possible to change the color of the memory buttons to grayscale, metallic or other "elegant" ones in the next firmware?

I get the impression every time I open the radio application that is a child`s tablet.

Something like this(thanks to [MENTION=6332655]janlwi[/MENTION] for the original photo, i made it a little photoshop):

Best regards.

Edit.- With the forum`s colleagues approval, of course.
[Android Head-Units] UffeJ:
Maybe [MENTION=7245455]Bob-Winlink[/MENTION] can let us know where we can download this firmware ....:o
[Android Head-Units] pmgcosta:
That fix your problem?

I have the same problem, 2week and i'm out of battery :(

If i disconnect that wire i will loose the wheel controlls ?
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
You have to disconnect the orange and red wires for when you remove the car key automatically turn off the radio.

The wires are like these:
[Android Head-Units] HVB83:
That is a great find! I assume you've put a 100uF capacitor in order to connect it to the headunit?

Just a shame that with my DAC right now, there is no sound output for the carkit (neither through DAC, nor through line-out or amplifier). I've already asked Ownice for support in resolving this, but so far to no avail. Since the car is only used during my spare time and usually with the misses on my side, I don't use the carkit that frequently. The increased sound quality is night & day and as long as satnav and music is working, I'm not willing to sacrifice the DAC.

My steps taken to get the DAC working are described in this post: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71884917&postcount=118

If anybody is able to source the problem, which must have something to do with the audio-output described for the carkit in the audio_policy.conf file, I would be very grateful!
[Android Head-Units] pmgcosta:
I will do that but after i do that, when driving i will able to use controls in stering weel (vol + vol -) ?

I have a Passat 2006 B6 3c
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
Yes, you can use, those wires do not affect the steering wheel or another controls.
[Android Head-Units] pmgcosta:
Sorry for the question, what does this cables do ?
[Android Head-Units] kadete26:
Maintains electrical power permanently, for this reason it discharges the car battery if you leave it parked or don`t use it for several days.
[Android Head-Units] pmgcosta:
Thanks for information!
[Android Head-Units] denkar13:
Yes.

In my case everything is working fine.

I cant understand why they have these 2 wires and why they dont give instructions from the beginning.

Nevermind...
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Been messing around with the 2 octal core units that came the other day and have to say that so far the c500 is nothing compared to the generic car specific octacore that I also got.

Two really stupid problems I have with the c500 and it's embarrassing to even mention it! I can't get google calendar on it for some strange reason. Do all the usual add account act and it syncs contacts and can download from the play store ect act but I just can't get the calendar to show! This is a first for me, never had an android device that didn't show the calendar! Here is a pic of the google sync screen with no calendar anywhere!

Am I missing something really stupid here lol..

Also power amp does not mute or stop playing when a call comes in?

The generic unit is good as gold and has been brilliant for the min I turned it on.
[Android Head-Units] velocity4:
Hi germinus, can you tell us about the reversing camera behavior? I think some of us watchers are anxiously awaiting whether it works properly on the new units. Also, which one is working right for you, not clear in your message. You mean the universal non car specific one is good, or the car specific one?

I am only waiting to know if they fixed the camera before buying one of these. Otherwise I guess I have to go with Joying;)
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Yes the camera works fine, can't say I have noticed anything wrong with it, comes on instantly. I am a driving instructor so obviously do a lot of reversing with my pupils. So far it works just as well as my old eonon quads.

The car specific one seems to be better than the ownice one but that is more my personal opinion and not based on performance issue apart from the issues I am having with PA and Google.
[Android Head-Units] ely.soto:
So at cold boot when you first get into car, it reverse camera works instantly? Even before c500 finishes booting?
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Yes
[Android Head-Units] Mammûûth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

Thx for the feedback now I feel like I can finally buy an ownice C500 for my old W203 sport coupe phase 1 (can't see much using pupils only) woot!!
[Android Head-Units] Crimespree:
Was there ever an mcu update? The instructional video implies there was?
[Android Head-Units] vgabbott@gmail.com:
I have quadcore c500 with 3/24 firmware and Google Calendar works for me.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Thanks...Turned out that all I needed to do was download the google calendar app, go figure! Never had to do that before tho.
[Android Head-Units] Omneal:
I've been looking for a way to disable the reverse cam grid lines, but didn't find any.

Does anyone know how to disable them? I can't find an option in the 1260 settings menu.

Any help or pointers much appreciated.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Depends on your camera, most seem to be hard coded into the camera, there is a setting to turn of the UNITS grid lines in driving settings but most likely you will still have the lines of the camera on the screen. These can only be removed with a hardware modification of the actual camera.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=273616]HVB83[/MENTION] Yes and I tried other values. But it makes no difference, I think because radio already has a capacitor since it also has to drive the electret itself. It gives 3.3v to microphone jack by default.

I think that the noise problem was:

1- Because I used a cable which came with a chinese VW RNS/RCD microphone. I now realized that it was just a normal cable and not a shielded one as it should be.

2- When I tested the microphone, meters of cables were going over each other on my desk. I may have caught some interference.

But I am currently using an electret microphone only. I bought some with SG text marked on them and they were not so good, but I found some with XL-R text on it. Actually it was [MENTION=2456913]vgabbott[/MENTION] 's microphone suggestion in this thread. XL-R texted one works much better than SG texted one.

Right now, tests must stop for a while because I installled the unit and the microphone is in my dome light but there is no ACC power going there, so I need to solve that before I start testing in-place amplified microphone stuff...

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Now I tried 4 navigation apps. When radio is on, the "Here WeGo" app stutters and "MAPS.ME" and "WAZE" does not produce any sound at all. But Google Maps work just fine.

Is there any solution to this problem?
[Android Head-Units] pmgcosta:
Any news about that update to 4core version?

It's possible to extract the installed version of radio app and apply that on 4core version?
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=8077131]MortyPAA[/MENTION] Did you ever solve your problem with waze? I don't understand how some people say they have no problems with it but I also have the same problem with radio + waze causing waze to become mute.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
I will just note that my short time with the c500 (octa) with sim card can not achieve 4G here in the UK.
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
Is it a software or a hardware issue? Ownice has to resolve that as soon as possible.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
I am uncertain as to the reason, I was very suspicious of their claim of 4G in the first place, has any actually achieved 4G with this unit using its own sim card?
[Android Head-Units] HVB83:
I have 4G over here in NL, shown through the icon in the statusbar and actual download speeds and latency scores which show that I'm actually achieving those speeds in practice also.
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
Thx for the info!
[Android Head-Units] MortyPAA:
Noap. Radio + waze not working ok. Waze sound is cut.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
I checked the bands the quad core unit supports (i guess octa core should work similarly) and you can find it at wiki. Also the table that ownice support provided is there. You can compare with what your provider supports. I also got 4G working, but the antennas which came with the unit was performing very poorly. I got better result with a piece of paperclip. You should test it at a place where you get full signal. You can also is the mtk engineering tool from play store to see the supported bands.
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
Being a driving instructor I get to try it is multiple places all day and have never got 4G from it, can confirm that on my mobile with the same provider I can get 4G almost everywhere I go. Perhaps it's electrical interference that stops the unit achieving 4G or maybe I should check my APN settings. Can't say I am that bothered as I tend to tether from my phone anyway.
[Android Head-Units] ely.soto:
It is the bands supported by the unit. Lte uses different bands in different countries and even different providers. Theirs is most compatible in china.
[Android Head-Units] Kurt Lund:
I also have it here in Denmark in a C500 (quad core) and a SIM from TDC

Regards

Kurt Lund
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
I just mailed a working radio app (for the C180 and C200) from ewan@dekock.net to Bob (on his request)

They gonna try it on their C500, and hopefully they adapt this radio app in the next updates for the C500 and models to come.

What the... again upside down :/
[Android Head-Units] al3ash8:
My friend I'm from Sweden and I also have octa version and I can say it's supports 4G, but i think whats happening with you like what happened with me you need check the settings in mobile networks and change the network mode from 3G to 4G .
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
Does someone tested Android Auto with the C500?
[Android Head-Units] germinus:
I am 90% certain I have done that, but will double check... Many thanks

Must have been the carrier (giffgaff) as just tried a diff sim and got 4G
[Android Head-Units] fjkoffrie:
I just Updated to 3-24.

Seem like a improvement.

Standby works, Bluetooth auto reconnect works.

Now I only waiting for RDS function, and also save favorites with radio station names.

Reverse camera is probably a hardwarwe issue and will never be resolved.
[Android Head-Units] Mammûûth:
U have quad core version right?
[Android Head-Units] fjkoffrie:
yep
[Android Head-Units] goxboxlive:
Jeep Wrangler 2012

Hi.

Anyone tried the C500 in their Jeep Wrangler. Is it compatible as the specs saying?
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
According to info I found online, giffgaff uses only LTE Band 20 (800MHz). You can see the frequencies supported by C500. 800Mhz is not one of them unfortunately. I guess they may have some problems with some phone models also...

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Do you mean 2017.02.24 firmware?

I have a problem with the wifi tethering. I tether internet from my phone and every once in a while C500 has very slow internet access. I need to go and reset network settings and then it starts working. Does anybody else have the same problem?
[Android Head-Units] fjkoffrie:
Yes the 2-24.

Didn't won't to make everybody crazy :)
[Android Head-Units] DropperGK:
Also Get 4G here in South Africa (Let me put it this way ..the HU shows 4G, I have never test the true speed...:fingers-crossed:
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
you can use ookla if you want to test your internet speed :)
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
2 weeks use

I tested 2 networks in France with 4G. Works well in town and countryside. But poor speed : 7 Mb/s with nPerf. In the same conditions, my Oneplus 3T shows 30 Mb/s... However, It works much better than my old S160 (android 4.4) unit with a 3G Huawei key.

As the antennas cables were too shorts, I installed the MIMO antennas on the windshield pillars and not in the no-silver windshield zone. Perhaps, it should be better.

The octacore is an MT3562. But, the performances are not brilliant : Antutu : 31 000, Oneplus 3T : 155 000.... Could be optimized.

But It seems to be enough to do what my HU has to do : telephone, radio, music, GPS. (I have no DAB or rear camera)

The unit makes calls as a mobile phone from the phone apk and the handsfree is quite good (with external mic). The bluetooth connection is fast and allows to receive mobile phone calls. Very comfortable...

Otherwise : good radio reception, good GPS sensivity, the amplifier is also good enough (for my ears) and I finally managed the system launcher to have the interface that fits to me.

The radio apk displays the stations names.

30s boot, the 60mn delay is a good idea... But I don't understand why the unit consumption is not managed to keep the core on, and the power amplifier, screen, wifi, gps... off. As a mobile phone does...

Waze and Maps works well. HereWeGo has settings menu empty (?). Chrome works well too.

One problem remains : my USB key is seen by ES Explorer but not by Poweramp and Rocket player. I had to copy my music to the internal memory. I am not probably smart enough.
[Android Head-Units] seb64:
how do you transfert application on SD card ?

where do you find last firmware for c500 quad core ?
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=6332655]janlwi[/MENTION] , can you upload the radio apk? I wonder when there will be quad core firmware which can show radio station names....

About Here We Go navigation, the problem is the application itself. It does not support landscape mode. Only portrait mode. If you run it your phone (I think it only allows navigation in landscape), you can see that it locks the phone to portrait mode. But C500 is locked to landscape and this is the problem. I used some 3rd party apps to put C500 into portrait mode but half of the screen disappeared :)

In either case, I gave 1 star to Here We Go because they do not support landscape mode. I always use my phone in landscape mode when I use navigation software. So I do not even understand why they were too lazy to make the settings page for landscape mode...Very strange...
[Android Head-Units] vgabbott:
I finally received this Media Button. It pairs with my phone and works nicely but will not pair with C500 though obd portal. So, scratch this from the list. I thought it would work since my tablets and phone will pair though the obd portal.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=2456913]vgabbott[/MENTION] check this out, it seem to use the key wire inputs on the radio Car steering wheel button remote control for car multimedia player Universal remote control use 2 din radio So you should be able to program the keys even.

New 6-Key Car Wireless Steering Wheel Control Button For Car Android DVD/GPS Navigation Player Bluetooth Phone #J-4262
[Android Head-Units] Argentum_90:
Hi guys,

Finally installed my Ownice C500 on Audi A4 B6. Everything works OEM look. Steering wheel controls, FIS displays info, buttons lights when I turn on the lights of the car, etc.

The only problem was the BRAKE cable, that blocked me almost every function, and I could not use the hidden menu to disable it. So, I connected the cable to a screw on the own radio to ground.

I bought a 4G card from Vodafone, and sure 4G works in Spain.

I have too the camera delay when booting, but when I select Reverse in the gearbox, camera app automatically starts with no video signal (I still haven't connected anything). Then, for what is the CAM cable?

Radio reception with the amplifier is nearly the same than stock radio. Unfortunately it does not show radio station names, but it has RDS. Hoping somebody to fix this nearly in the future.

Somebody said that other non Ownice mics didn't work. Mine from my ex Dension Gateway that was installed just worked perfect, excellent sound quality. Mine is 1 pole and passive.

How can I select other start logos? I see a magnifier in the app but it shows in blank. There must be a folder where you can upload logos but I don't know which one is. Can you tell me something?

According with Android Auto, it's nearly the perfect interface. However it will not work well because it believes it is working on a phone, so it waits to be the main device when calling, instead of being a handsfree unit. Here you have a photo:
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
just transferred music files with ES explorer.

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Thanks. I tried to extract the radio apk with apk extractor but the radio is not visible.
[Android Head-Units] yurtesen:
[MENTION=2628563]Argentum_90[/MENTION] The brake settings are both in hidden menu and also in video menu. You should allow user to have permission to disable it from hidden menu if I am not mistaken.

About the logo, ownice has logos ready and you can just select one. I believe you would need to be root to add more logos. See manual for the logo change. There is link to manual at wiki if you lost it.

Do you have quad or octa core radio? The station names show only on octa core with latest firmware. Also the rear camera can work before unit completely boots on octa core (according to one user). It is unknown at this point if both versions use the same firmware.

Your unit probably figure you are switching to reverse using canbus. The camera wire is for cars without this feature. There was some settings about rear camera in 1260 hidden menu. I am not sure if you can disable it, but there is a "camera detection" setting there. I would try to turn that off at least.

[MENTION=6332655]janlwi[/MENTION] I will check my radio apk and let you know if i find a way to copy it. Did you root your unit?
[Android Head-Units] Argentum_90:
I have the quad core version.

How can I access to the hidden menu?

I know it has ready logos, but Audi logo sucks, it's the 90's Audi Logo. VW has 3 logos for example, and Audi just rubbish. So I saw a magnifier icon for custom logos in the stock app. It should be possible to put them anywhere.

Don't you think they will fix the radio station names in the quad?

I'm happy with the reverse with canbus. But all the wires that are for generic cars are connected to the canbus box, except this one, which I don't understand.