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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] long2ski:
Buying advice

I need some advice/ opinions. My rooted Nook HD+ is really showing its age even on android marshmallow and I can't get over the price of this Fire HD 8. I know there is no root yet and I see you can get the play store , but I am concerned that a lot of my apps that currently work will not work on the Fire or will get the "not compatible on this device" warning on the play store. For anyone with the play store, can you tell me if you are having any issues? Thanks for any feedback.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Actually, it's not disappointing at all. I never even noticed any of these until you mentioned it.

Keeping in mind that the Fire Tablets are primarily - above all - to be used as book readers, there isn't a need for any of the above. These Fire Tablets aren't supposed to provide high-end performance at anything. They are purely intended to be

very cheap

Amazon readers that you can also occasionally browse with, make Amazon purchases on, and maybe play a Prime movie every now and then. They certainly aren't designed for gaming. They also aren't intended to be your only tablet device

98%+ of the time, I have my 5G HD8 in Airplane Mode so that my battery can last a few weeks without recharging. Internet access is always disabled unless I need to browse for something quick or get the occasional app or update.

If you want a tablet that is more utilitarian, be ready to fork over more dough, and maybe get something like the Samsung Tab S 8.4 SM-T700. We have a SM-T800 (the 10.4" version), and it's a really great tablet. It's also a ton more money, though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amag3308:
+1 same here, don't know what happened [emoji52]

Inviato dal mio KFGIWI utilizzando Tapatalk
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackie78:
No problems with Google apps so far. Has anybody of you tried the latest Kingroot beta? It will search forever, why?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruimst:
I had the same issue. Uninstall all four google items and reinstall following these instructions:

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackie78:
Did anybody also get Fire OS 5.3.2.0 update although OTA was blocked using netguard? :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darksoul21:
As I can see development is dead. Is anyone at least working on the HD 10 wifi dropping?

Went back to stock to alleviate this problem and it still occurs.

Checked different router setups even routers.

Wiped many times.

This is the only device on the Wifi that drops constantly or is superslow to connect.

Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Despite your pessimistic outlook, I would like to think that development isn't "dead" for the Amazon HD8/HD10 products. Coming up with a reliable root solution for any new product takes time and expertise.

Give the talented guys and gals out there more time to see if it is possible.

¿GJ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] critofur:
Kindle Fire HD 8 (2016) on sale at Best Buy for $59!!!

At that price I imagine there must be a boost in interest/effort to get root. I hope it happens soon!

I tried "KingRoot" and it didn't work. Disappointed because I wasn't going to buy it until I read all these threads talking about people getting root working on HD 8, but not until I got the tablet home did I read that working root is only on "5th Generation" models?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Valtor:
Very nooby, although I used to root and play with my devices in the past...

For some reason, I am completely unable to sideload apps. I've enabled apps outside the appstore in the settings, but when I simply try to install YouTube or just an apk update for ES File Explorer, I can't make it happen. It goes through the steps, it tells me the permissions related to the app, but after I tap install, it tells me "Installing..." then "App not installed". I literally got the device yesterday, not really interested in rooting or even installing the Play Store, as long as the couple of apps I really want I can get through apk install. Any advice?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Do you have the new 2016 HD8/HD10? I don't have one (I have the 2015 version). Did you install Google Service per these instructions: http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moe Sizlack:
Not a newb but dont have a lot of time to delve through old threads. Hoping I can get a quick answer. Im in need of a tablet but it must be able to be made to use google play services/gapps. Is the HD8 reasonably capable of using these currently? I've been rooting android for years and am ADB proficient and dont mind doing the research just dont want to go on a wild goose chase. I had an old HDX that was a nightmare to get play services running on. Has FireOS become any better? If I purchase one today will I be able to mod it to use google apps?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
as.. last page indicates, yes google play currently works fine on the HD8 6 gen (thats what you would get if you purchased right now from amazon). Just follow http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 to the letter.

works just as well as on any android tablet.

Remember though, you don't have a GPS on this device so things like pokemon go won't work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Has anybody here owned both the 2015 HD8 and the new 2016 HD8? I am curious if Amazon's claimed performance improvements are noticeable in real usage.

I am very tempted to buy at the $60 price, but I may hold off if the performance change isn't much.

Also, is it possible to install Nova Launcher (after Google Services are installed) and assign it to be the default launcher? I did that on my rooted 2015 HD8, but I don't remember if rooting was required. I am not a fan of the Fire UI.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stank22:
I had the 2015 HD8 ($45 refurb) for a few days before returning it for the $60 2016. Twice as much local storage, a little more RAM, and the noticeably longer battery life has kept me satisfied spending the extra 15 bucks. Can't really speak on the performance because I haven't really done any heavy lifting with the two, but they appear to run about the same. Kodi, Amazon VOD, and light games have worked well. Keep in mind you also get a 10 dollar GC from Amazon if you order with an Alexa device (ends at 23:59 PST on the 28th)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dokihara:
So what can be done on the HD 8? ADB, sideload, Google Play, & remove ads? no root, no custom ROM?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpxdude:
So far, it only looks like installing Google Play is possible :victory:

I'm looking forward to being finally able to root, and install CM12!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnchalfant:
There's not enough of a following for this device like the 7 inch has.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wannabedeveloper:
You can also change the fire launcher
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dokihara:
I got google play installed, that's really all I needed. Going to try changing the launcher for fun. I'm keeping mine on 5.3.1... hope there's a root someday.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noraz123:
Battery life seeming;y worse after installing Google services and Apps

It seems that my Kindle Hd 8's (6th gen, FireOS 5.3.2) battery drains much faster now that I have installed Google services. Has anyone else seen this? I don't know if it is due to any of the Google apps I've installed (GMail, Hangouts, Chrome, and Maps or ahte required services to enable these).

Any suggestions for apps other means for figuring out if Google apps are causing greater battery drain? Or any suggestions for improving battery life in general?

To give some perspective, my Kindle 8 was showing 94% battery life this morning. I left it, with its screen off. And a little less than an hour later it was down to 91%. When I get home tonight, I'll see how much battery I lost over the course of the day without using it. But it does seem my battery drains faster than when I first got it and did not have Google services and APKs installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
N00b here, haven't done anything to an Android device in a long time. I can't seem to get ADB to recognize my tablet. I went to the Amazon how-to and installed the drivers, downloaded their ADB test package, no dice. Doesn't get listed under devices, proper driver seems to be installed (I see Android ADB). Suggestions? Links?

(looking to do this in part to be able to then follow instructions and get Nova Launcher as my default)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OscarDiggs:
" shawnchalfant

Senior Member

There's not enough of a following for this device like the 7 inch has."

Hard to argue with Amazon's success: "According to market research firm IDC, shipments of tablets globally fell 11.1 percent in the second quarter of this year, and juggernaut Apple reported a 9 percent dip in iPad sell-through over the same period. Amazon, meanwhile, climbed to fifth place among tablet manufacturers and accounted for 4.1 percent of total tablet sales.

digitaltrends*com/mobile/amazon-fire-hd-8-tablet-alexa/#ixzz4RSECsJ8T

(replace asterisk with period)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
One suggestion for isolating your battery drain issues: Your list of installed apps sounds pretty short right now. Uninstall

all

of them, and just leave Google Services installed. Then, check to see how your battery holds up. If it's back to your old levels, then install one app at a time, and check the impacts. You'll be able to easily isolate in a few days. If the battery still drains faster with only Google Services installed, you'll have your culprit identified even sooner. :)

I'd be willing to bet on Google Maps as one of your battery drainers. Not sure how well Maps handles being on a device without a GPS. Actually, why would you have Google Maps installed on the HD8 anyways? Seems to be a bit of a waste, there.

Regarding "improving battery life in general"? It's really simple: put the HD8 in Airplane Mode except for the occasional times when you are using it to surf the web. After you get what you want off the web, turn Airplane Mode back on. I get a few weeks between charges on my 2015 HD8 this way.

¿GJ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnchalfant:
I meant, the 7 in model had more going on with development than this year's 8 in model.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I just got my Fire HD 8 6th Gen (16GB) today. It came with 5.3.1.0 and was not pre-registered. First thing I did was turn off the Wi-Fi. I'm hoping root will be available.

Anyone have any info?

*edit: looks like not yet. I shall sacrifice a live chicken to the Android Gods.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayredfr:
This week I emailed the Kingroot team to ask them if they could work on this, and they replied me:

"Please make sure that you are not using another root tool, because different SU may conflicts with each other at the same time.

Then, try a few more times. There are several rooting methods integrated in apk root, however, it will only run one at a time.Please make sure that you are not using another root tool, because different SU may conflicts with each other at the same time. If it still fails, please submit your request and wait for the update. Kingroot is working hard to adapt more strategies for more devices. However, sometimes it takes a long time for one device. And your patience is highly appreciated!"

Hope it will help us !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raphzub:
Seeing as this device has seen a boost in popularity since the Black Friday sale, I can see there being more development in it. I have play store installed which is great, but Root and an Android ROM would be sweet.

This tablet was only like 60 bucks, so any development for it would be killer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Suspence0:
Just picked one up, would love someone to develop a root - this stock rom is TERRIBLE. Why is "Shop" before "Apps". I got rid of the ads through asking customer service nicely (lol) and got Google Play + Nova + The Hijacker and it's alright, but I need my root to get rid of all of this horrendous bloatware.

Otherwise, this tablet is surprisingly awesome - a definite steal for $60, not meant for gaming but Hearthstone runs fairly smooth on it, which is all I could really ask for lol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayredfr:
What did you said ? Have you paid something to get rid of the ads ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just4u32:
Asking them nicely? Can you please be more specific?

BTW, if you now use Nova, shouldn't the ads disappear?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebrainkafka:
Besten Thing to do.

At least my opinion.

GIVE THIS PEACE OF CRAP BACK
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stank22:
Your opinion is respected, just curious why you feel this way. Pretty good screen and battery life. Yeah, not crazy about the Fire OS and bloatware, but as long as I get to keep the Play Store, I'll be happy with this tab for what I paid. Root would just be icing on the cake that is already pretty tasty on its own. I seem to like it more than my Fire 7" 5th gen with CM 12. But that's just me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebrainkafka:
Because of highly closed os. Hey, can even not Change Launcher.....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Hi, [MENTION=7901778]Suspence0[/MENTION] - Did you say that you can use Nova on the HD8? I held off on a purchase, because I wasn't sure if Nova could replace the stock Fire launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stank22:
I changed to Nova on 5.3.2.0 http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/app-root-launcherhijack-custom-launcher-t3409531
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnchalfant:
Hint don't register with Amazon, install Google play, no lock screen ads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpirate8:
Installed Nova Launcher as per instructions and works GREAT!! Only glitch is when hitting Home button and screen flashes Fire Launcher for half a second
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
Darn. Now I have to wait for the HD8 to go back to $60.

If THAT ever happens again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darksoul21:
Reality can do that.

Device is not that new. And pretty much given up on Rooting, when the device is unable to maintain a connection.

As for time its always passing, and can't live forever.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananapeal:
Hello

I am on 5.3.2 hd 8 and all I've done to it is install googlenapps. They seem to work ok and I can get Chromecast even sometimes.

I am! Having trouble typing here in the xda app because it is infuriatingly slow. The keyboard lags, app switching even into the Amazon app takes forever... I don't understand, is this normal? Did I do something wrong with the apps? I've used clean master to remove cache but I don't think it does anything else.

any ideas how do you keep it fast?

Should I firmware update?? I just want Max performance and the gapps.

Wwyd?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sparrino:
Question about increasing performance

Dear all,

It seems that with the hardware packed into the 6th gen HD 8 it should run faster: loading Chrome or any other app shouldn't have the delay that it does, etc. Though there isn't a root option available yet, is there any way to increase the performance of the tablet without any regard to increased battery usage?

Thanks!

-sparrino
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] old_fart:
This is about my seventh device . . ( years go by ) . I have been lucky in that most all have been able to root . . . . until this one . . Maybe next year ?

.

What I have found . . . . . . . You need root to write to system. You need to write to system partition to tweak .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zzzk:
Any progress on Root hd 8, 6th gen, 3.5.2.1?

Any progress on Root hd 8, 6th gen, 3.5.2.1?;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zenroid:
Just tell them the annoying ads they offered to remove it for me no question asked
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I should do that if I ever link it. I'm so mad at Amazon right now. Bought 4 drives from them on black friday...and nobody knows when they are getting them again. I know if call them to complain, they would remove the ads I'm sure. Any issue you have with Amazon, you could prob use to your advantage.

All I want for Christmas is my rooted hd8, and my hard drives (oh..and my 2 front teeth).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrBrady:
Just picked up a Fire 8 (Gen 6) for my 5 year old to replace her old iPad 3 and Galaxy S3 (hand me downs).

From what I'm reading root isn't an option and neither is a custom ROM.

But there's an ad removal script and way to add Google Play Store, correct? I'm assuming I can install apps to the external SD card, correct?

Anything else special I should look out for, add or avoid?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayredfr:
I asked them to remove it but they want me to pay 10€ to get rid of it. Ahah, nice try, but I'll just wait for the root to help me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zenroid:
That's weird though I bought it from Amazon USA they actually removed it from 2 tablets under my account
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergdjdolphin:
Please help

Hello every one. Today i tried to downgrade my Kindel Fire HD 8 (6th generetion) to firmware 5.3.1.0. Now i have a brick. Is it possible to restore the phone through Flash Tool? Or is it not possible because the loader is lock? Please help.:crying:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
http://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-hd-8-10-t3240034/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergdjdolphin:
I used this method to make a downgrade. After that my tablet doesnt work. So what ever i do it still has black screen. When i connect Kindel to my computer, device manager show me Mediatek USB Port on couple seconds.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
no known fix, returned to Amazon for free one time replacement if still under warranty
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergdjdolphin:
Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayredfr:
Everyone who want the root, please download the kingroot app from there website and click on request, more we'll be and more chances we'll have to gain the root !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xceptic:
Is there any way to delete the unwanted bloatware Amazon just installed on my 6th generation Fire HD8 along with the latest OS update? Specifically, a kid's app called Rapids that showed up on 12/20. They acknowledge it cannot be uninstalled. I haven't tried a roll-back yet. Have Google Play loaded and working fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
cannot remove stock apps without rooting

adb hide or disable may be possible
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
see

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/adb-shell-pm-hide-bloat-amazon-t3221466
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
I am trying to get Hulu running, but the Hulu app always terminates when it is starting to come up.

Chromecast seems to be limited, too. I don't see any of my Chromecast devices when I am using Netflix.

?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g4ry12:
I gave up on Hulu when they started blocking not just non-US IP addresses, but even IP-addresses of the servers within USA. So can't say anything about Hulu.

As for the Netflix, I have the same issue. It's not about Chromecast, because it works fine with YouTube and Play Movies. It's just Netflix that refuses to cast on Amazon devices. I am not aware of a solution. Would be happy if someone could help.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdbowman:
Hey, when taking a video and watching playback, if the video is longer than 15 seconds or so, the audio sync gets off badly. 2 new 6th gen HD 8 devices and same issue on both. Newest OS... Any suggestions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbcwor:
Can any one tell me how to stop OTA updates with out root???. They just keep updating it. Fire 8"6th generation tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿GotJazz?:
There isn't much you can do, but there are some things: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick

I always have my 6G HD8 in Airplane Mode - mostly to have a long battery life since I primarily use my tablet as a book reader. My last charge was over a week ago, and I still have 47% battery left. When I occasionally use the internet on the HD8, I only enable it on my home network, which is currently configured to block Amazon updates using the OpenDNS method from ATVNews.

My HD8 hasn't received any updates yet - I am still on v5.3.1.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] russy23:
hi, ive had my asus me176cx for about 2 years now, im looking for a new tablet, i never thought about getting a amazon tablet, the main issue with my asus is ram, some things you do it just stops and goes back to main screen, this maybe games or basic surfing, some say the ram management is poor due to asus software, im not sure, but anyway hows people experiences with this having 1.5gb ram, any sudden home screen returns..

I will be installing play store for the apps to carry on the progress of games etc, is it possible to debloat this bad boy yet, and what this about adverts, its Â£85 advert version or Â£99 non advert, are these adverts annoying..

for the price i think this is a excellent deal, or is there someone that can recommend me a android tablet around the same price

thankyou
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iR4:
Had it for two days and the ram management isn't great in comparison to something like an iPad but it certainly isn't bad. Unless you're playing games expect the app to remain running and I've never had it return to the home screen.

You can't debloat it but you aren't forced to use those apps, just put them away in a folder and yeah Play Store is a must.

Definitely buy the AD supported version, they almost always remove it for free if you ask them on the support page. I had a five minute chat yesterday and they removed it. The ADs arent annoying unless you're really fussy about how your lock screen looks, a surprising amount of people even prefer the adverts.

Don't expect anything this good for under £120. It has loads of flaws but nothing comes close at this price point.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B. J.:
Rooting

Hi, I'm wondering if there's a link to directions on how to root Kindle Fire HD 8. I read some that said it's not possible. Also does anyone know if it's possible to replace the default launcher. I'm really new to this & I don't know how to use ADB shell, even though I followed a tutorial & used it to download Google play Store. Is there a step by step explanation to use it for other things?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jadephyre:
Rooting is currently impossible, no one has managed to unlock the bootloader so far.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pokits:
Quick question, I bought a fire HD 8 6th gen and was wondering if there is a way to update root or add a program to stream on my TV with the USB/HDMI cord or wirelessly to my ps4