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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendoori:
Yes I have a Dizonic case and perhaps this is the issue.. so I guess I go naked for a bit and see if it still happens?
[Palm Treo 750] yud:
hi,

Does anyone know what is the power rating for the 750 USB charger?

I have a USB car charger from another device, which provides 5V / 650mA (max). Can I use it to charge the 750 in the car? (I have a suitable USB cable for the 750).

Y.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
Starting this thread away from the other more general Pre-orders & Shipping Dates!

So that the ones who ordered Pixel from USA/UK or anyother pixel pre-order available country to overseas, could help each other by discussing the Shipping Dates and methods.

I have ordered Quite Black Pixel XL 128giga, shipping date is 26-28 Oct.

Package forwarding service is Shopnship. Getting Delivered to Saudi Arabia.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fullmetal_nell:
where did you pre ordered?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
From USA Google Store, using USA VPN along with a USA Google account.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hubono:
Hi

I ordered from Google USA store. Shipping to oman via aramex ship and shop. 128 black xl. Over night, delivery 21st to 24th to my aramex. Then 5 days for forwarding. Should have it by end of the month.

Cheers
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ali87:
Mabrook! Aren't you concerned about Carrier Aggregation?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
I have searched.. The North America pixel devices works with all carriers of Saudia in LTE (FDD), 3g n 2g mode. So no worries.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ali87:
Not what I'm referring to, Carrier Aggregation is different than regular LTE support. CA allows the phone to combine LTE bandwidth from multiple bands the carrier supports for increased bandwidth, CA can work with either 2 bands (2xCA) and 3 bands (3xCA), check the combinations below and tell me if the US version supports your bands for CA.

North America Version:

LTE 2xCA: B2+B2, B2+B4, B2+B5, B2+B12, B2+B13, B2+B17, B2+B29, B2+B30, B4+B4, B4+B5, B4+B7, B4+B12, B4+B13, B4+B17, B4+B29, B4+B30, B5+B30, B7+B7, B12+B30, B25+B25, B29+B30, B41+B41

LTE 3xCA: B2+B2+B12, B2+B2+B13, B2+B4+B4, B2+B4+B5, B2+B4+B12, B2+B4+B13, B2+B4+B29, B2+B5+B30, B2+B12+B30, B2+B29+B30, B4+B4+B12, B4+B4+B13, B4+B5+B30, B4+ B7+ B12, B4+B12+B30, B4+B29+B30, B41+B41+B41

International Version:

LTE 2xCA: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B18, B1+B19, B1+B20, B1+B21, B1+B26, B1+B41, B3+B3, B3+B5, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B19, B3+B20, B3+B28, B5+B7, B7+B7, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B19+B21, B20+B32, B38+B38, B39+B39, B39+B41, B40+B40, B41+B41

LTE 3xCA: B1+B3+B3, B1+B3+B5, B1+B3+B8, B1+B3+B20, B1+B5+B7, B1+B19+B21, B1+B41+B41, B3+B3+B5, B3+B3+B7, B3+B3+B8, B3+B7+B7, B3+B7+B8, B3+B7+B20, B3+B7+B28, B7+B7+B28
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
Sorry didn't knew about that myself, thanks for clarifying. Well as I knew it would work on one band of LTE only on all carriers, therefore carrier aggregation does not hold as no other band is supported. Hmm so as it's not available here I can still sell it for a fairly good price. Maybe nearly double the original. ;)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hubono:
Phone is on the way via aramex
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Emerald Core:
Now that's a big concern. How are we supposed to order International version since the only source of Google Pixel is NA ?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
No the only source is not NA. Like NA source is only from USA and Canada Store of Google, otherwise if you order from India, Australia, Germany, UK etc Google Store, you would end up with the international version.

But all of them are a bit more pricey in terms of NA model.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Emerald Core:
I see

Thanks for the information.

Can you suggest UK based stores that sell Google Pixels ?

The only one I know is Carphonewarehouse.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
http://www.androidcentral.com/where-buy-google-pixel-and-pixel-xl-uk

Note: For going to Google store of UK, you need a valid uk Proxy/vpn, and you shouldnt be signed into google account of anyother country, better use incognito along with uk proxy/vpn
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[Mate 8 General] c|nder:
I'm done my Executive Candidate for mate 8 release but how do I port the stock call recorder from AL10 to the 636b200 version. It always says unknown error. Please help so I can get this ROM out ,its 2x as buttery as KVIP and battery life increased and over clocked repsectivley
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Anyone know how the Pixel will do with third party but high quality chargers such as Anker or Choetech?
[Google Pixel Accessories] Atemi1337:
I don't think anyone will have concrete evidence until we get to try it out. I would assume if it works with the 5x/6p it should be the same.
[Google Pixel Accessories] Matridom:
Google has a usb-pd belkin car charger on their website and recommends it for the pixel, so it should be compatible. I would expect that any charger that supports usb-pd will work
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
What is USB pd? I'm sure tons of chargers will work but there was all that drama recently with certain USB C chargers not being safe
[Google Pixel Accessories] Matridom:
USB power delivery. It's the standard that the pixel uses for quick charging.

http://www.usb.org/developers/powerdelivery/

If you don't have the right cable and charger, the phone could draw too much power and kill the usb port or burn out the charger. If you use a quality cable, you should be fine even for old chargers, just won't charge as fast
[Google Pixel Accessories] alexjzim:
I believe QC3 chargers will work on this device. I can rapid charge my Pixel C with a QC3 charger, at 5v3a. QC3 also supports the 9v2a charge that these phones need.

Of course I will test and update when I receive it, but if its anything like the Pixel C tablet, it will work.

As for the cables, anything on amazon with 4-5 stars will probably be up to spec. You are looking to make sure it has a 56k Ohm Resistor
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
There was a bunch of drama last year. Even cables with the right resistor wound up potentially being incompatible
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Bump
[Google Pixel Accessories] daewond3r:
Good ol' Benson (and another dude named Nathan) have put together a list of recommended charging accessories:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml
[Google Pixel Accessories] seezar:
Make note that the Nexus 6p and 5x chargers aren't recommended at all.
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Yea this is really flipping confusing. Why all the drama? I have a bunch of Choetech cables and a charger that Jensen has previously said are safe but how do I know if they are safe with THIS phone if he hasn't explicitly tested?
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
How do I know if these, which I already have, are ok?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I97L5R2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019Q5WT6W

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DDW9RNC

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DEJ7KE2

I'm way more concerned about safety than charge speed.
[Google Pixel Accessories] chazall1:
Some great Info here:

https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Yea I know. I'm responding to posts above
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Bump. While I will pick up some of the recommended cables from Bensen, I have a ton of these floating around. So my questions...

1) Are these SAFE with the Pixel?

2) Does it matter what charger is on the other side for safety?
[Google Pixel Accessories] kazemitsui:
I have a coupon from HTC for their accessories was thinking of picking up a couple of the USB A to C cables

would that be safe?

http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/usb-type-c-cable/#!pid=htc-10
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
So the cheapest power brick that gets a 3 and charges at full power is $35 from Google. The only car charger that has a 3 and charges at full power is from Belkin/Google, coming soon at $45. There are no battery packs that receive a 3 and charge at full power. Sheesh. This kind of sucks right now.
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
I dont think 3 is only thing thats safe though....
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
The only batteries that charge at full power got 0 and -3 ratings, the only other car charger at full power is $40 from Verizon.
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
What I'm saying is, the priority should be safety. And it is crazy I do not know if the chargers I use on my current USB C devices are safe for the Pixel.
[Google Pixel Accessories] Bruce Lee:
Here is another link that is similar to the other links, but another way of looking at it. I hope this can help in some way.

http://phandroid.com/2016/10/14/recommended-usb-c-chargers-for-pixel-phone/

I will most likely buy all my charging accessories through google since my luck is absolutely horrible. I don't want to break my device. haha
[Google Pixel Accessories] Gravediggaz:
Can anyone recommend a good car charger?
[Google Pixel Accessories] Matridom:
I got the Belkin one from the Google store, was the cheapest price and they have stock. Supports full fast charging and is on the recommended list
[Google Pixel Accessories] xxnirvana69xx:
Bought this car charger. Seems to charge around the same rate as the stock.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01I41O18S/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Does no one have this same challenge?
[Google Pixel Accessories] chino_487:
The spreadsheet also has "recommended" cables, a lot of the ones that Benson reviewed and approved previously on amazon aren't on there. Does anyone have insight as to why the cable list is so short now?
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
This is exact reason I even bothered wth this thread. I'm confused
[Google Pixel Accessories] chino_487:
I spent a good amount of time reading Benson's FAQ about Legacy cables and if I understood correctly, anything he has tested and approved should be safe to use on older style type A chargers. The only drawback is the charging speed. The point Benson was trying to make through his reviews is the lack or inappropriate resistor in the cables which would negotiate bad charging current. Everything he has approved has the correct 56kΩ resistor to tell the device that it is using a Legacy cable and limits its current draw.

So I think that the items you listed should be ok to safely charge your pixel at a lower charging speed as long as they have the 56kΩ.

I still don't understand the USB-C charger protocol from that spreadsheet and what makes them 3 vs. 0 or -1...:confused:

---------- Post added at 01:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:50 AM ----------

https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346

Here is the FAQ.
[Google Pixel Accessories] JaTe01:
I'm guessing you mean the OEM ones the shipped with the 5x and 6p?

How about the Google one they were selling at the time when the 5x and 6p were selling in the Google Store? Google has since taken that charger off the page, but it was listed as a universal usb-c 15w charger. Sorry can't post a pic or link since I have less than 10 posts. It was the black charger where the cable was actually attached to it and not removable.
[Google Pixel Accessories] Jank4AU:
SONEic Type-C charger seems to be working very well with my Pixel.
[Google Pixel Accessories] gmap516:
Woa, woa, woa. Wait, why? I've done a few charges on my pixel with my 6p charger. Am I screwed?
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
This is why I started this thread. All drives me nuts
[Google Pixel Accessories] Bruce Lee:
I just got this directly from Google today. I found the packaging interesting.
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
Well that's the charger from last year, the 27w Belkin charger is the new one and hasn't gotten in stock yet.
[Google Pixel Accessories] Bruce Lee:
Google says it works with the Pixel so that's why I got it.
[Google Pixel Accessories] HeCareth:
I had the small Aukey dual charger which seems to work fine with the OEM Google cable. The phone says "Charging Rapidly" on the lock screen, compared to my Anker QC car charger where the phone said "Charging Slowly"
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
It works of course, just doesn't provide full power.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
3 vs 0 -1 are the recommendations

---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 PM ----------

It does 5v 3A, so Pixel charges at 15W, instead of 18W.. 3 Watt's the big deal?

Isn't the 27W 3 amp a different charger?
[Google Pixel Accessories] chino_487:
I am aware that those are the recommendations. I stated I did not understand what MADE them a 3 vs a 0 or a -1. After contacting Nathan, basically he said that for a person like myself who does not have an electrical engineering background or anything of that sort that would understand what kind of testing they perform, I should only care about the recommendation rating and whether it would charge the at full 18W.
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
Never said it was a big deal, just originally said the only car charger that got a 3 on Benson's list and charged at full power was the Belkin 27w, which they haven't released yet.
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
So even with all of these posts, we are no closer to knowing these answers?
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
Benson's list is the only safety reference we have.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
I personally just go on Amazon and stalk Benson's review's and buy the 5 star stuff he has in his wish/recommended list
[Google Pixel Accessories] chino_487:
I did answer you. See above.

To quote Nathan regarding Legacy cables when I asked him directly about which ones were safe to use:

"All cables that come with the Pixel are Grade-A OK.

You need a good A-to-C cable and ALSO a good A-charger. If the A-charger doesn't have the D+/D- connected, the Pixel won't charge at 1.5A! [Not sure about Apple signals...?]"

From the ones you listed, looks like only the TechMatte (3Ft & 5ft) was reviewed by Benson: https://amzn.com/B01706YAXY

These are the adapters that Benson approved: https://amzn.com/B0151RKYBG which seem to be different than the ones you linked.
[Google Pixel Accessories] joshm.1219:
So now AP has confirmation from Google that the smaller Pixel only charges at max 15w. So the old Belkin car charger does charge at full power for our device.
[Google Pixel Accessories] rkial:
I have an Aukey QC 2.0 compliant 10000 mah Powerbank. It worked flawlessly with my S6 and I used it to charge my old tablet as well.

Can I use that along with the A-C cable that came in the box to charge my smaller Pixel?

The cable is from Google, the powerbank is QC 2 compliant.. Will it be safe?

I dont care if it charges a little slow. its only for emergencies.. and the Pixel battery is pretty decent, so it shouldnt happen too often. Just wanted to know if it could be an option if I run out of juice and need some topping up..

Didnt want to buy a new powerbank considering how little I use it.
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
I have similar questions. This is mind numbingly frustrating.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
It was a bad joke ;)

I ordered 2 of the blitzwolf i posted, they do 5v3A 15w and comes with perm usb c cable plus usb A slot. I figured $5 each delivered, why not.

---------- Post added at 03:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:19 PM ----------

According to the specs on aukey site for this model and what nathan k said recently, it should work as any dumb charger would. If you're using the oem a to c cable it should handle charging the pixel at 5v/2.4A 12w in port 1 and 5v/1A in port 2. (Note there have been reports of faulty oem cables) It will not take advantage of qc 2.0 however

If ever in doubt, using a legacy a to c with proper 56kΩ resistance from the recommended cable spread sheet should be safe as well.

Product Specification

Model Number:PB-T4

Capacity:10000mAh

Input:5V/2.1A

USB Output 1:5V/2.4A, 9V/1.67A, 12V/1.25A

USB Output 2:5V / 1A

Dimensions:6.5" x 0.6" x 2.9"

Item Weight:8.8oz

Product Features

●

Quick Charge 2.0 - Charge compatible devices up to 75% faster than conventional chargers.

●

Product Specification

Model Number:PB-T4

Capacity:10000mAh

Input:5V/2.1A

USB Output 1:5V/2.4A, 9V/1.67A, 12V/1.25A

USB Output 2:5V / 1A

Dimensions:6.5" x 0.6" x 2.9"

Item Weight:8.8oz

Product Features

●

Quick Charge 2.0 - Charge compatible devices up to 75% faster than conventional chargers.

●

Built-in safeguards protect your devices against excessive current, overheating, and overcharging.
[Google Pixel Accessories] gmap516:
So will a -1 cable fry my phone or just won't charge it as fast? I have a samsung power brick and a note 7 USB-C cable as well as the nexus cables. I need to know if they're safe or not.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
Here is direct links to Benson Lueng's recommended usb-c lists on Amazon, use as reference;

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ls/ref=aw_wl_sr_res_2_1?ie=UTF8&lid=IOGWYK5NXWAE

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ls/ref=aw_wl_sr_res_2_2?ie=UTF8&lid=KF89JCHI0KT4

You can also search his reviews to read his detailed commentary on stuff he has reviewed personally and make purchases, if you wish, of tested and approved accessories.
[Google Pixel Accessories] rkial:
I have the PB-T1.

It has just 1 usb output.. And its rated.

5v / 2.1A . 9v / 1.8A , 12v / 1.35A

I guess it'll still charge at 5v - 2.1A and should be fine as long as I'm using a decent A-C cable.

Thanks
[Google Pixel Accessories] dxdude35:
Can someone explain to me why the 6p charger is bad? I've been using it daily and now you have me kind of concerned but I haven't seen any issues
[Google Pixel Accessories] chino_487:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMPrM0eWPbY
[Google Pixel Accessories] dxdude35:
So what I got from that is that I am safe since I have a 6p block with my oem 6p cable...he said the 6p block and third party cables were bad but never used the OEM 6p cable, but if I used my 5x block with any cable then it's bad (I haven't used my 5x block at all with my pixel)
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Isn't it the same thing except for the package size? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DDW9RNC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I97L5R2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 These say they have the right resistor... So what is the issue? Also, does the actual charging brick matter?
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
The brick does matter, especially if you're looking to maximise and want power delivery compliant.

Some Chargers also break the rules others may not have all the right pins connected
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
I'm only specifically referring to safety, not speed.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
Safety is the rest of my post, if youre not worried about pd.

If you look through the charger spread sheet, towards the end of each reviewed is comments about them. Youll notice how many fail to be compliant/ safe or otherwise not recommended and why.

---------- Post added at 12:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

Below ive linked the spreadsheet Nathan K. And Beson Leung set up for Pixel users.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit?usp=sharing

Reference here https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv and https://plus.google.com/collection/ILkNbB
[Google Pixel Accessories] km8j:
Ok, let me ask differently. Say I go to someone's house and they have a stock charger for a Motorola, Samsung, whatever and I have a certified (say Techmatte) USB A->C. Can I safely charge my phone?
[Google Pixel Accessories] daewond3r:
I finally gave in and ordered another OEM charger from Google to keep at work. So much easier than trying to decipher all this information. I'll throw my old chargers up on eBay and try to recoup some money.
[Google Pixel Accessories] clockcycle:
If legit Motorola or Samsung (manufacturer of flaming Note7) and not counterfeit answer is Maybe.

If you're going to carry around your cable you might as well carry around a trusted charger with you too if you know you're going to be out and about.

Personally I just have a good car charger, not saying that I don't also have several chargers with me in the car. I also carry usb doctors. But that's just me... YMMV
[Google Pixel Accessories] TK 421:
Just for a heads up, I tried the 10ft iOrange usb C to C cable Benson recommended from Amazon. It would not work with my Pixel XL OEM 3.0a charger. It did not show a charge symbol, I waited an hour and it had not charged it. I tried wiggling the plugs and switching them to rule out a bad connector or anything else. No luck.

If anyone knows a long 10ft+ USB C to C that is confirmed to work please let me know. I didn't see any specific long cables in this thread aside from Bensons Amazon approved list.

Thanks
[Google Pixel Accessories] kEvinErd:
Interested to know the answer to this too. I'm just concerned about the safety, not so much about the charging speed.