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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jomo25:
Awesome...Thanks...Ya, VOIPStunt has some better rates for SMS to the places I need to send them...Been using them for about 2 months now, and its a great service. Much better than Skype.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
It's funny to see the differences in prices between VoipBuster, VoipRaider and VoipStunt.

The application is exactly the same (except the looks) as well as the site... but the prices are different.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lsd3k:
I'm see one bug in this software, when I'm trying to send sms for example to free destination 001112223344, but voipsms deleting zeros and sending messages to 1112223344, then I receive - insufficient funds on my account or didn't send any messages if account funded. Another one with the same zeros, when I'm trying to send sms to 111002223344 (111000223344 any numbers with double and more zeros) it sends to 1112223344 so number is wrong.

Can it be fixed?

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Ah I see.

Bug 1: Only leading zero's should be removed. This is because of the format that VoipBuster expects. The format should be: [countrycode without the 00 or + sign][areacode without leading zero][number]

So for holland it should be +31 0123 456789

This number must be formatted to: 31_123_456789 (without the underscores)

Bug 2: 00110022003344 is changed into 11223344. This is wrong. It must be 110022003344.

I'll try to fix these bugs tonight. Thank you very much for testing and posting!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
The bug with the incorrect formatting of the phonenumber is solved in the new version (1.1)

The other issue about the insufficient funds is not a bug. It's the result which the application receives after sending the message.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vapor:
Great software.

However, I am still facing the same problem which I face with other VoIP SMS Software and that is my phone number is not sent so the user does not know what I am the one sending the text message (unless I tell them).

Am using VoipStunt which the URL you provided.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
That is something which can only be set with the Windows Application. There you can verify your number and set your 'caller id'.

As far as I know.

If not, please let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vapor:
I have verified my numbers and I can even select those numbers when I use the Windows application.

I am currently located in the US so the country code is +1. I entered 11234567890 (where 1234567890) is my number and +11234567890 but in both instances, the ID that the recipient received was some other number (which is not even in my address book).

When I used other VoIP SMS software, the recipient would see my username when I sent an SMS using such software but now with your software, it sends something else altogether.

Do let me know if you need more information on my part.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I'll try to search things out how to arrange this. It would be a very welcome feature.

I'll keep you informed. For now I don't need any additional information though I don't have any idea how to do this. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
Hi Rapsody! Thank's for your great application. I would like to ask you something. I have tried to use voipsms to send messages via voipraider. Messages sent to Greece are free via voipraider. I can send messages to Greece normally using the pc application and the html link. When I try to send a message from voipsms I get the message that says that I don't have enough credit to send a message. I don't need to have credits because messages to Greece are free and I can send a message from the pc application. Why is this happening? Thank's again ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
That's something I discovered as well.

The application sends a message using the HTML link of Voipbuster/VoipRaider. The result of that call is an XML file. The content of the XML contains that exact error message. So basically the error that you have insufficient funds are coming directly from the server.

I have the feeling (and I also saw other people talking about it at the forum of VoipBuster) that the nr of free messages is limited.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
That's weird because after many unsuccessful attempts with voipsms I can send sms normally via the pc application. So the problem is not the limit (even if there is a limit). I will buy credits and test it again. Thank's anyway :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Ok thanks for your information. I'll try to find some more information about it. Unfortunately there is not a lot of information available on the internet.

On this forum there's another tool which enables you to send messages using VoipBuster/Raider. Could you try if that application has the same 'issues'? It has more features and support for more Voip Applications.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
You mean ipsms by skandler? I have already tried this application. In this application I get the error code "invalid username" when I try to send sms via voipraider. I am sure that the username is correct so I can't send messages from there either. In general with voipraider weird things happen with all the applications that I have tried.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
That's weird because it's just a VoipBuster 'clone' :-)

I've dropped a question at Skandler's thread. Hopefully he can tell me a little bit more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mcapri:
Sipgate

Hi folks,

Are there any plan to make VoipSMS compatible with Sipgate. I've got an account with them and I'd rather avoid registering with multiple providers.

Their API is already out but I cannot make it work.

Cheers

mcapri
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B.Mulder:
doesn't work

I have installed VoipSMS1.1, but it doesn't do anything (the program doesn't start). Do I need the .NET Compact Framework for it? My PDA is an IPAQ 6300.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Hey,

I was able to reproduce the bug. I've uploaded a new version (2.1.2) with the fix.

You have to enter a default countrycode (+31 for example). After that you can send messages without having to enter the number in international format.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
For those who're interested: I've uploaded VoipCall. Which this tool you can call using VoipBuster (or one of its clones)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=377617
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
hi Rhapsody, how u doing? have you had a chance yet to figure out the contact selection problem with the xT9 touchpad?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I'm able to reproduce the 'problem'...

I think I have to make the autocomplete functionality optional. I can't auto-complete when using a keypad bevause I don't know when the user is ready with typing. Maybe a delay or something...

What do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
cant a time delay be set? if i understood correctly the input from the keypad cannot be used as a trigger?

a time delay as in for example 1 full/half second (i dont know what is an ideal time delay here) after the last button press..if no buton is pressed for that time, the app will consider the typed name to be complete, and make a 'hit'list.. would that help?

when using it my first impression is that it just reacts too fast to the input..

also, were you able to reproduce the scrolling problem in the drop down list? it will right away select the very first name it comes across.. that too seems like its too 'eager' to select the very first input it gets..whether it be one letter or the first name on a scroll list.. in the scroll list btw, it might be good not to let the app select anything by itself, but to wait for an action button press..

back to you :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
No i'm unable to reproduce the drop down error. The keypad is hiding when the dropdownlists gets focus. If I open the keypad again; it's a normal Touch Keyboard... After that, when I go back to the recipients textbox it turns back to a keypad again...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
thats ok, since the functions can be split:

the text box could be used to select a contact by typing the name, and then it creates a list of matches as the input becomes more complete;

and the scroll down list could be used for finger scrolling. then a contact would be selected by a screen tap. the way it is now is not really bad either, it selects after releasing your finger.. the only problem with that is that its very hard to scroll to the contact u want.. i scrolls very fast and if you miss it and release too late, it already selected the wrong contact.. another little difficulty appears then: the wrongly selected contact is not easy to delete from the selection box..

if you would agree, and if its possible, i would like to plea for touchflo scrolling through the dropdown list..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I don't want to make it too hard for users. So I think I'll do this:

- Auto complete delay on the textbox.

- When textbox gets focus -> select all

- When selecting a contact on the dropdownlist, it will not be added to the recipients textbox untill the add button is pressed.

I think those are the best features for now. Agree?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
sounds good! :)

but:

when textbox gets focus=> im not sure i understand what you mean by this..

PS glad to see youre still on it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
With getting focus I mean; when the textbox becomes active. (for example by tapping on it)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
sorry for being a bit slow, but then if you'd tap the textbox, it would select all contacts? and then?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Then it would select all the text in the recipients textbox. So then I can be deleted easily.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
oooooooo now i get it ;) hehe sorry

and for text input from the sip the text box is automatically selected right?

great.. cant wait to try the new version... :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
What do you mean with the automatically selected thing?

Will continue working on it tomorrow, for now it's time to stop since I have to wake up at 06:00 tomorrow :P

Thanks for now!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
well if you (single?)tap on it it would try to select the whole text box content right? so what if there is no text in it yet? or if you want to add another recipient? if then u tap on it it will replace whatever is in there already if im correct..

so i figured the sip will automatically add any input in that recipients textbox, instead of anywhere else... im just thinking how to select the normal recipients text box, since there are 2 more fields that can be selected as well (contacts drop down box and message text)

or do you mean double tap the recipients text box for selecting all the content? normally it would be single tap for selecting the text field and double tapping for selecting all content of that particular textfield, right?

6am? wow, better get some sleep, man ;)

thanks and talk to u later:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Well if the textbox gets focus (don't know a different description for it) I can select all text. When the user adds a contact by selecting it from the dropdownlist and presses the 'add'-button, the recipient will be added at the end, because the textbox doesn't have the focus anymore.

Like this it should be easy to clear the recipients textbox.

So if you tap on the recipients textbox it will select all the text in it. By pressing the -> arrow key you can deselect everything and move the caret to the end (natural behaviour). After that you can type in the textbox.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
ok lets try :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
The auto-complete delay is built in.

I've got to 'fix' just one small issue, hopefully I can do this the upcoming weekend.

By the way; the incoming sms interception is also coming. It will take some time though. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
yippie! :D

did i tell you already i really love this app?? :D youve done a fantastic job so far, thanks for your work and your devoted support.. keep rocking mate!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I'm good :cool:

Just kidding.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Ok, it has been quiet for a while now. Unfortunately I'm busy with a lot of other things now, but I'm testing some possibilities for saving the incoming and outgoing messages.

It's possible to save it in txt or XML format but these aren't very nice when it comes to 100s of messages.

So I've been looking at alternatives and the performance, but without luck yet... :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
Hi Rhapsody,

what would be the problem with txt or xml?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
When there are a lot of messages these files get pretty big, especially XML (which has a lot of overhead)

So the performance will be bad after using the program for a while.

But since there aren't a lot of good alternatives (I don't want to add SQL Server as a requirement (and besides that: SQL Server is also heavy))

I think I have to use XML/TXT then :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
no harm in testing that first anyway right? ;) (im just so impatient hehe)

can the file be stored on the sd card then? maybe a time delay for stored messages , like it keeps only messages from the last 7 days in a quickly accessable 'light' file, and archives older messages in a bigger, slower file...?

so you would only be confronted with slow performance if you dig into the archive, but not during standard use...

is this any good?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Those are possible solutions indeed. I'll keep them in mind. I'll try to come with a new version asap. Unfortunately I can't promise anything now. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
take your time, ill be right here :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
oh ya, would it be possible to make a context menu option to 'send voip sms' from contacts? and from the PO inbox?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I've been busy on that as well actually :-) But I have to write it in C++ and that's not my speciality :P

First things first.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
coool.. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Not a new feature but a very nice new eh thing:

VoipSMS is also listed on the official VoipBuster website: http://www.voipbuster.com/en/mobile.html#voipsms

Thanks to the guys of VoipBuster!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
congrats! youre conquering the market ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Version 2.1.3 is available.

Change:

- Auto complete delay option added.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
hi Rhapsody,

been testing version 2.1.3 a bit and this is what i found:

the drop down contact list is already much more handy...:) but it wud be even better if pressing the action button on the D-pad would select a contact, like now the Add button does.. and if the D-pad could be used to jump from one box to another (just a standard feature as in most applications)

2 things are not working too well yet; entering a contact in the To: box still wont work. the first letter of the xT9 pad (like for example J in the button JKL) is always selected right away, no matter how fast it is tapped again, and coupled with the first matching contact. it will not select the any of the other letters on the button without entering the first one in the To: box first. changing the delay timer doesnt have any effect on this.. so after the first letter is pressed it gets picked up right away by the box. if then you go on pressing the following letters will be entered in a normal T9 way, however there is no contact matching being done then.

the To: box does select the whole entry automatically for deletion, but it does so when not needed (straight away when a contact match is displayed) and it doesnt do so when needed (after tapping the box/its contents). tapping the box shows a momentary glimpse of such a 'whole entry selection' but thats all, there is no lasting selection and thus the box still cant be cleared easily..

it might be more convenient to have the SIP show on opening the application. now it always starts out hidden. i dont know if thats on purpose or not, but so far to me it seems more convenient (less taps) to have it showing on application opening/startup..

another tiny little feature request: to be able to change the order of the favourites without having to clear them all and re-entering them in a different order..

overall still getting better and better though :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Currently I'm testing the 'incoming sms interception'.

I've found some small issues so I'll have to report back to the development department (me)

Hopefully I can release it soon.

- SIP is opened on startup,

- Favorites can be ordered

- Action button can be used to add the selected contact to the recipients.

I stop with the xT9 pad. It seems like it's a weird pad :-) Sorry.

So have some more patience :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
hi Rhapsody, still great progress, thanks! :) n greetings to the development department ;)

the xT9 probably IS a weird pad.. :) but its in many ways an improvement to the previous T9 pad, and extremely handy to use in most applications, if not all.. i wish i could tell you whats causing the problem. it would be awesome if it was fully compatible with VoipSMS.. could it be related to the built in word prediction perhaps?

could it be a compromise solution to enable scrolling from the To: box too?

so now it selects the first name matching the first letter on the T9 pad, for example i press the ABC button, and it right away selects Amy. but i would want to select Axel. as it is now, i cant change it to Axel, and i cant enter Axel either, so in that box its impossible to select Axel or anyone else but Amy (which happens to be the first name in my list starting with an A) but if i could use the jog dial wheel to scroll on from Amy, i could still reach Axel that way relatively easy.

this would be a valuable feature, because the dropdown box, without letter priming, would take very long to scroll to certain miscelaneous contacts.. imagine looking for Yolanda, i'd have to scroll all the way down from letter A to letter Y, and with a few hundred contacts thats gonna take a while..

what do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Ok, since I'll not have a lot time these days I put a alpha-beta-test-version online.

Ordering favorites is not implemented yet.

Intercepting incoming sms works, but it will only save a copy of the incoming sms. THe sms itself is also saved in the default inbox.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
hi Rhapsody, thanx for the new version :)

after a quick look:

the inbox/sent folders feature looks very nice and promising.. :) the split screen is great.. if at all possible, an option to store them on the SD card would be really nice..

cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
To store the messages in a different folder than the install-directory you mean?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
i guess, in a folder that can be placed on the SD card.. it would save valuable memory space.. is it possible?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I'll see if I can implement that in the next version.

A new version is released. Not a lot changes since the last 'beta' version. Incoming messages are now shown on a different form to improve performance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
looking very very good!! :)

my ' test results' so far:

if i set the inbox to only copies, it still does the same as intercept...no original is shown in the PO inbox, and no incoming alert is shown or sounded..

*update: it does now save the original in the PO inbox, i didnt notice any specific reason for why it changed..

is there a way to get a sound and/or visible notification instead of the incoming sms popping up?

and could you add a reply button on the incoming message besides the menu reply option? now it has to be closed first and then selected, and then the reply function has to be selected from the menu..

oh ya, how do you feel about a read/unread indication? the panel view kinda makes that inpossible on the one hand, but on the other hand theres no more distinction between read or unread messages.. i do like the panel view tho. maybe a replied/not yet replied distinction then? just brainstorming a bit here..

getting into the very minor improvements, i can only think of a quicker route to the inbox..

other than those its working perfectly! (not counting the To: box / xT9 pad issue ;) )

thanks for the great work again! :D :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
Sound will come in a future version. I want to implement that but first I want to make the step to .NETCF 3.5. (.NETCF 3.5 supports playing systemsounds.)

I'm going to think about read/unread indication.

These are the things I also had in mind. Since I'm moving to a new place I don't have so much time now, but it will come!

Thanks for testing and using!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sushikidd:
my pleasure :D

succes met de verhuizing :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] directmail:
Excellent program, it would be even better if its possible to use this program with sipgate. I have signed up to voipbuster because of this program but have to warn other users if they intend to do so as well.

I have cretaed my account and tried to buy credit by using the phone option first, which didnt work. Instead, I tried to buy credits by using the text message option. As a result, I lost my 5 pounds and never got any credit added to my voipbuster account. I sentg emails to betamax but never got a reply. After some research, I found that a lot of users have similar problems:

http://www.myvoipprovider.com/optio...it---scam---fraud---cheating.html/Itemid,130/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rhapsody:
I've got contact with a member of Betamax (they put VoipSMS on the VoipBuster website :))

You can send an e-mail to: paymentservice@betamax.com

Can you provide me some information about how to send sms using the web via SipGate?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] directmail:
Thanks! will try to use their email rather than their feeback form.

Sipgate also has a php form to send sms and it actually looks very similar to VoipBuster. The problem is that I dont think it is possible to put username and password into the url to automatically logon. When I start the web browser I always get the login screen first before I get to the php form. Would be fab if you get VoipSMS to work with sipgate!