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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mjustis:
My Sim split off as well...

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OMG, I was showing 2 pending orders one on the 14 and the other on the 20th in Google Financing Syncrony. Called both and they said Google had voided the transaction. Soogle said all was good and the order is still there...THis morning no pending orders in Syncrony. Called google guy put me on hold for 1 hour bad hold music. While on hold called google again on another phone and the guy said it was a known issue was escalating and a manager will call me in 24-48 hours...Other guy that I was on hold for an hour clicks in and says all is good and the order will proceed. I dont know what to think. Also, my order of the Project Fi SIM split off from the phone...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
Maybe you will get a phone in the mail and no charge :good:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mech8:
On mine now! Yay
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] coach26:
XL 128 GB BLK - PREORDER - Nov 18-21 - 10/14 - approx. 5:30 pm cst
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ResistanceDown:
So I'm still marked as pre-ordered with a Nov date... But a pending charge just showed up on my card from Google. I placed my order on the 14th and the original authorization charge dropped off like a week ago. So with this new charge does that mean I may change to processing soon? One can only hope!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] david.degraw54:
You should change to processing in the next few hours! But who knows how long till it ships. I spent a day in processing. My brother spent 3 days before his shipped
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Spyke562:
128GB Very Silver still at Pre Ordered with shipping Nov 23 - 25
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ResistanceDown:
So this is really weird.... It just disappeared again. No change in order status
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dems86:
Whelp, just dropped my Note7 off to T-Mobile, there were some laughs, some tears, some hugs...saying goodbye is always the hardest part.

I'll be rocking an HTC10 until Google ships the 128GB XLs slated for November...slight adjustment to the smaller screen, but it's such a good phone, kinda missed using it ever since the Note arrived...now I just need my Pixel Google, pretty please
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] coach26:
Felt the same way yesterday when I took mine back. In same boat on pixel. Rocking cracked screen G3 until Nov 18-21. I wish I had the HTC 10 to use. Actually considered it, haven't had an HTC phone since my beloved Nexus One! :)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dems86:
The 10 was my first HTC phone, I got it after I gave iOS a second with the 6S+ launch...i made it a while but got the Android itch and by the time the 10 dropped it had to be scratched bad, that 6S+ didn't see much use until it went back for the Note lol, the HTC10 really is an exceptional device
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bajasur:
Ordered 10/21 (128 silver and 128 black) shipping estimate 3-4 weeks...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] skyle22:
I'd love a G3 right about now. Sold my 6p two weeks ago, and have been using a moto E since then, till my blue pixel comes tuesday....
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ggreenwood334:
OK. Since my latest delivery date is Monday and it hasn't shipped yet. What will they do? Just refund shipping cost?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonyTurboII:
+1

128GB Black ordered 1:23pm CST on 10/4.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] coach26:
Can't argue with ya there!!! :)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrwicked:
Same thing for me. Ordered black 128 XL on the 14th. Still pre-ordered status and now my cc shows the charge.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] foxehkins:
I can see this only being the case if the shipper was late. If it hasn't shipped yet then they are not obligated to refund anything. I guess chock it up to if they want to be nice.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] init_dot_t:
Log: Pending day 18... The wait continues, and the only ones left with me are 128GB orders and my 32GB is stuck in limbo. Phone is supposed to be here in 3-5 days. iPhone 7+ made it to me in 5 days. I will be tempted to order one for myself if my Pixel does not meet its delivery date. I hope things change tomorrow, well later today.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
It will come. It will be worth the wait. Hang tight. :laugh:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Kookitza:
Mate, I'm on the 17 day of pending status and I'm not optimistic.

what are you going to do? Place a new order and waiting 3-4 weeks, or giving up and buy a deferent phone?

:confused:

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I think it will not come and nothing will happen... :crying:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] beelee_m:
Ordered on Oct 11, 2016 9:23:58 PM PDT

XL. Very Silver 32g

Status is still preodered stage with est delivery date of Nov. 18-21

Still have my Note 7 and dont have a backup phone so until the pixels comes in....
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] danon.brown:
Are any of the phones being delivered xl 128gb or are they all 32gb xls?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cabouno:
Are any of the phones being delivered xl 128gb or are they all 32gb xls?

My 128GB black XL is in the city at FedEx on a truck for Monday delivery.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] neverfeedazombie:
I got my Silver 128 XL yesterday. I ordered on the 4th, and my original delivery date was Oct. 26-28.

?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] danon.brown:
I must have missed the first wave of pre order shipping then. Mine was on the 4th however my date is in November.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Kookitza:
I think that all of the orders that made between 4th-7th, 21-24 Oct with pending status or even pre ordered status need to start worrying about There orders including me.

Today is the 23th and our orders status is still pending, i just don't see how we supposed to see the status of our orders change to shipped or at least processing tomorrow...

It's just no makes sense that our orders stuck on pending for such a long time, and people that ordered a week after us Has been received recently their devices.

If Google just send us an email saying: "Don't worry, we remembered your order" I would be calm.

I 99% sure that our orders forgotten somewhere.

:(
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scrillakev:
So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Jsunn:
Wow, that is expensive... and sold out... :-p

Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).

Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!

Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.

-J
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] No1ustad:
Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?

In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Zaf9670:
Given the way the past Nexus devices (that included support for Verizon and were eventually sold through them) the answer is no. They use the exact same hardware presumably. But until we start seeing model numbers confirmed it could be a possibility. But the unlocked version will support Verizon and it will have Google as your main access for support (which has been good to some people in the past).

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Keep trying and clicking in different orders. Like adding the 128GB before the color, size, etc. I managed to snag one that way. BE PERSISTENT!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scrillakev:
The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.

I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7. :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] R2DeeTard:
I'm in that boat as well, work will pay for my phone if I get it through Verizon. Here's hoping that I can in some way sell the Verizon phone NIB and buy the unlocked one.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] bsg411:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mrvirginia:
Pre-order either Pixel model from today through October 19th and Verizon will send you a redemption code for a free Daydream view.

Will likely be bootloader locked.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] stinger4321:
That bootloader lock kills the deal

.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] bsg411:
My coworker told me about the 2 year promo...I didn't actually see it myself. He is currently at the end if a 2 year promo so maybe that has something to do with it??
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Oh that's it. Anyone on a contract can keep getting new contracts like that. But new customers cannot get a contract from Verizon directly. You can still get service through Verizon with a new contract and subsidised phone you just have to purchase the Verizon service through dealers like best buy and target I know they both list new Verizon service with a contract where you get the phone subsidised instead of a payment plan or paying full retail price for the phone.

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Someone will probably figure out a way to unlock it. You could just wait it out and you might get a better deal waiting also.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] moosc:
Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] TechBSwift:
What he said!!
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Virus1x:
I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Conchors:
Yeah, but it took well over a year to unlock the verizon S5 (at least. I hadn't looked for another year, so it might have been over 2). It'll be cracked Eventually but how long will it take
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
I'm not too worried about the bootloader being locked as I've stopped rooting my phones and flashing ROMS but I just need to know if the Verizon model has all the bands to work properly on t-mobile. I have 2 sims and need to confirm this.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Trooper27:
Bootloader is definitely locked. Saw this question/answer on the VZW Page this morning for the Pixel XL.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] dirtyfingers:
I just preordered the pixel xl from best buy and extended my contract with Verizon. Does anybody know if the version they carry is the same as Verizon's or the unlocked version in the play store?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] huskerpat:
I pre-ordered a blue 32 gb for my wife and a black 128gb for me through Verizon this morning. Work doesn't allow us to have rooted phones, so the bootloader isn't an issue for me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] trickster2369:
Best Buy will sell both the Verizon and the unlocked versions.

It was all just an illusion
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Virus1x:
Verizon version
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
The issue for me is updates. Already a bad sign that Verizon has control over the bootloader. They might have control over the updates as well. I think the phone will come with some minimal Verizon bloat that hopefully can be removed. I'm waiting to hear more as I can get it through my company but if it's bloated with no way to remove and updates migth be delayed due to Verizon, I have to decide if paying an extra 400 is worth the freedom.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
As of right now best buy only has the verizon version for pre order and its only the pixel 32gb or the pixel xl 32gb no option for the 128gb as of yet, but with Best buy you can get the phone for $299.99 with a 2 year contract, plus you get a $100 best buy gift card, and you get a free Google chromecast, see link below. But to be honest from past experience Best buy seems to be slow on getting pre order phones as I have had that issue with Htc phones pre order through Best buy, verizon seemed to get the phones to you faster than Best buy but best buy is a better deal.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp/google-pixel/pcmcat748302047111.c?id=pcmcat748302047111

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If it comes with bloat you should be able to disable them through the google app manager, as I would imagine its in 7.1 just as 7.0
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
Hopefully. I'll wait for others to confirm first. Wouldn't be shocked if Verizon made a deal with Google to make sure their apps can't be removed or disabled.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
I cant see Google being that much of verizon's B for that lol. Bootloaders locked is different because all of verizons phones they sell are bootloader locked. And to do that would require a lot of modification to the android system, and you can disable apps on all the latest verizon phones so I think its pretty safe to say you will be able to disable apps. I think most people dont even know they can disable apps or dont know how to so most verizon users wont disable them anyway at least not enough that verizon would care.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
I'm trying to think when has Google ever had the upper hand on Verizon?

Galaxy Nexus - Verizon wins

Nexus 7 LTE - Verizon wins. For awhile didn't allow Google bought ones to work on their network

Nexus 6 - Verizon wins. Same story as the Nexus 7 LTE. Had to jump through hoops just to get a sim

Nexus 6p - Google wins. I didn't hear about any issues

Nexus 9 LTE - Verizon wins wouldn't let devices connect to their network for period of time

Pixel - Verizon wins carrier exclusivity. Want to be on our network, need to be by our rules. Locked bootloader amongst other things.

Apple in the other hand and it drives me nuts, seems to have all the carriers as their *****. Steve Jobs must have dirt on them locked away in a secret iCloud account haha
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Ok here it is for you this is something verizon never goes for ever. Do you see the V or verizon on the front of the phone anywhere ? I dont think back either. Verizon can push around small companies like Htc but they cant push around Google as they need Google more than Google needs verizon, as such last years Nexus Google sold them without Verizon and Nexus buyers at the start had to activate their verizon sim card in another verizon phone then pop it in to the Nexus phone to get it to work, then I think verizon getting pressured by its Nexus customers added the unlocked Nexus 6p imei numbers to their system. Now the Unlocked Htc 10 verizon would not add the imei numbers for them, as verizon likes to push around small companies like Htc, so honestly I think Google has more up on verizon.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
You see, I don't think so. There are articles that indicate Google wants their phone to be carried by all carriers. They have been wanting this for awhile, and yet it doesn't come to fruition. They clearly don't have the same weight as Apple in this area. You would think Google can bully Verizon, but I think history has shown that Verizon has the upper hand on Google. Do you honestly think trading a Verizon logo for carrier exclusivity is in Google's favor?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Dont the other verizon phones have the red v and verizon on them ?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
The nexus 6 that sold in store had the logo on the back, but you could easily scratch that off.

If you're saying that Google is making ground then yes I agree but i don't agree they have the upper hand over Verizon.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Google does many things that make no sense such as pixel only one speaker, no OIS, and main thing most flagship phones have which is an sd card slot and Google did not include these features in a device they call premium.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Slash8915:
What are you smoking? Verizon doesn't need Google. Why do you think Google chose to have Verizon as the only carrier to sell the Pixel? It's because Verizon is the biggest network with the most subscribers in the US. Verizon has the IPhone and Samsung phones to sell on its network, which easily outsell any Nexus. Why on earth would Verizon NEED Google?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] M9guy:
I dont smoke maybe you do but I dont. What is the system that most smartphones run ? Its android ie Google. And verizon is losing ground daily they are not so big anymore tmobile has gained a lot of ground and At&t is not far off, so verizon is no longer much ahead of anyone but sprint. Any why is there no verizon logo or name on the front of the pixel phones huh ? Its only the G for Google and not v for no verizon. The other verizon phones do...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] 318sugarhill:
The main selling point of a Nexus (now pixel) was you ALWAYS got Android updates first. With a VZW version and locked bootloader you will get updates when VZW is good and ready to give it too you. Without an unlocked bootloader you won't be able to flash a factory image.

Now, I believe you might be able to push the OTA releases with adb without an unlocked bootloader if Google continues to post the OTA zips.... But your also assuming that they'll be the same. It's a good bet the Verizon version updates will Not be on the factory image site.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] stinger4321:
If you dont want root or unlocked bootloader i would got with the s7, note 7, v20 , or the htc version of this phone...lol it has physical buttons on that chunky bottom bezel.. why get a gimped phone that lags in design
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] kakepner:
Cnet says bootloader will be unlocked

https://www.cnet.com/news/google-pixel-xl-verizon-daydream-view/
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MasterDBA:
The Verizon Pixels will get updates same as the ones from the G Store. And no bloat. Only difference is the locked bootloader.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] sd_matto:
Not seeing where it says Verizon's version will have bootloader unlocked; article only says "unlocked" (which could very well mean "SIM unlock", which all Verizon phones are).
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] destes37:
Any of the big wireless providers will always have the upperhand with Google. It all comes down to the fact that they will just sell more Apple devices. No need in a scorecard even being kept.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] bigblueshock:
I think another big question is: Will Verizon support all features if you buy an Unlocked Pixel and bring it to Verizon, versus buying through Verizon.

Example: Wi-Fi calling. I wonder if Verizon will treat it as a different SKU and not enable it for unlocked version. Guess we will find out on day 1

They never enabled Wi-Fi Calling on the 6P
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
That's what I was trying to tell that other poster that kept saying Google had the upperhand over Verizon when it came to negotiations. Google may be able to negotiate better with either Sprint or T-mobile but with Verizon and AT&T it seems they get shafted in favor of Apple most of the time.

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I'll be watching this thread closely as I have a chance to get the Verizon version at subsidized price without myself being locked into a 2 year contract. Huge savings but I want my Pixel to be nearly the same as the Google store version. I can live with a locked bootloader, but I can't live with Verizon having to sign off on updates causing a delay. Either way it would be running on t-mobile network most of the time.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Slash8915:
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[/COLOR]I'll be watching this thread closely as I have a chance to get the Verizon version at subsidized price without myself being locked into a 2 year contract. Huge savings but I want my Pixel to be nearly the same as the Google store version. I can live with a locked bootloader, but I can't live with Verizon having to sign off on updates causing a delay. Either way it would be running on t-mobile network most of the time.[/QUOTE]

This is the exact same boat I'm in. I can get the Verizon version for a discounted subsidized price due to my employee plan. Or I can buy the unlocked version outright and sell my GS7 Edge to make up for a chunk of the cost.

My wallet is telling me to get with the Verizon one, however I don't want bloat and all that if I can help it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
This is the exact same boat I'm in. I can get the Verizon version for a discounted subsidized price due to my employee plan. Or I can buy the unlocked version outright and sell my GS7 Edge to make up for a chunk of the cost.

My wallet is telling me to get with the Verizon one, however I don't want bloat and all that if I can help it.[/QUOTE]

here is some more info on Verizon Pixel. http://phandroid.com/2016/10/06/verizon-pixel-pre-installed-apps/ Another positive so far.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] wtherrell:
No bloatware. Sim will download My Verizon and one other but easily disabled. Saw this article on one of the review boards but don't remember which one.

Edit : linked in post just above mine.

But if indeed the bootloader is unlockable then no sale. The more I think about it the screen is just too small for me to pay such an exorbitant price.