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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kyledowling:
Yet the OP3 already has 2 nougat ROMs that I'm aware of. Nougat is also officially in the closed beta inside OnePlus (posted on twitter). Can't speak for Axon 7 but they've never been good with software updates.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I thought I saw somewhere the flagship phones of 2017 will run the 830 ?

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As per the link below 2017 flagship phones will be running the 830 processor at least they list the S8 will, so its probably safe to say most 2017 flagship phones will run the 830. And Htc has gone 805, 810 then 820 so 830 will probably be next for them as well as the S8 is listed to be.

http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-will-reportedly-manufacture-the-snapdragon-830-for-qualcomm/
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
In the end it will all come down to sales. Google may be fine surrendering the low margin phone segment to ZTE, et al, if they make more overall money selling fewer high margin phones.

Only time will tell.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Pretty much yeah, Google seems to think everyone is going to drink their koolaid and pay their premium price for a device that is missing key flagship features. Having an 821 does not make up for no sd card slot, no OIS and average at best audio out of one bottom mounted speaker, where many others have premium sound..
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digthemlows:
The more of you that cancel the sooner I'll get mine..... Keep on keepin on!!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
Lol, Google's Driverless car will deliver yours...:D:eek::o
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evertking:
They pushed PUSHED the game to OnePlus.. OnePlus is now king. They are the new NEXUS
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
I was thinking the same thing. Cancel that black 128GB XL so the Google drone can drop it in my driveway tomorrow.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] varun.gid:
i think they did a major mistake in partnering with HTC!! HTC has aways been famous for having phones with large bezels!! Atleast when they had dual FF speakers it kinda seemed justified! They should have gone with their first Choice Huawei or even LG!

With HTC, i'm surprised they don't have the same Audio Boom sound mod like the HTC 10.

But like a few people said, do not cancel the pre-order give the phone a Chance!!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
The sooner you enjoy that mono firing speaker the better. That phone has nothing premium about it. Not even the assistant is worth the extra 400 dollars
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cwalker0906:
I never seen so many people troll a website for a phone they arent getting, kinda sad,some of you got way to much time on your hands, no wonder you cant afford the phone lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
Sounds like you're a bit insecure with your purchase, I don't know why you're taking offense to people who are disappointed with the phone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cwalker0906:
Insecurity is a female trait, just sad to see people like you with nothing better to do with your life than troll a website for a phone your not getting....
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Dethfull:
cwalker0906 oh: we are not trolling, we are waking up the people TROLLED WITH THIS RIDICULOUS DEVICE.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
You understand that not everyone cares about front firing or stereo speakers right? I have used the front firing speakers on my 6p exactly one time for music. All the rest of the time I'm using headphones like a normal person ;).
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] d0cx:
as one of the "people waiting for this phone to replace the 2 year old Nexus 6", i will say i am severely disappointed. forget the missing front-firing speakers. this phone is not a phone for devs or tinkerers. this phone was made to "try" to compete with the iPhone, as a premium device, which clearly it's not... not at this price point. the camera can be good, but it doesn't justify the price. i love Android but this release just makes me wanna go back to an iPhone as a replacement for the Nexus 6. after all, many missing features that iOS had that Android has back then have already been baked in so, i'm leaning to ditch Android and go for an iPhone.

my 2 cents.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SwagGoat:
2016 and still stereotyping gender specific traits
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrgwap03:
The Nexus isn't water and dust resistant? Why Google!!!!!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
People had the exact same response to the 6P. In December people where returning Nexus 6P's left and right. Now everyone loves it. Is the pixel more expensive. Yes. Other than that it's probably an awesome device. I bet once people get over the price they will love the pixel too. I really don't think the Nexus enthusiast market was their target crowd with the pixel anyways. Also the fact that you can do payments even through google store makes it no different than buying a flagship device from Samsung or apple. And the specs match or beat all current flagships on the market. If it's too expensive then don't buy it. It's showing to be really popular all ready though because most models are all ready sold out online. My wife needs a new device and since she always gets a flagship on payments it's a no brainer to get the 32g pixel for her. Still cheaper than the sgs7 or iPhone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] daniel4653:
This was my exact same thought. I was a part of that movement. I had preordered my Frost 64GB, cancelled it, reordered it, then returned it within 2 weeks. Then two months later I purchased a 128gb Frost from Swappa and used it for 7 months. I was thinking about doing the financing option as well. I do feel as though some people who are saying it's way to expensive can't afford it because it would break their bank. If these people really want the phone, but the price is drawing them away the financing through Google is a great option. Or a tip for some, what i did last year with the 6P was i opened a new credit card account through my bank (i was already going to do this) and they had an offer if i spent $600 in the first 30 days they would give me a $100 bill credit. So my 6P came out $100 cheaper. There are options people.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
lol what did you say? its a female trait?

wutt????????????????????
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
I think everyone knows that the neck-beards out there are the antithesis of insecure.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Dethfull:
When i say sick, is TRUE

MEGALOMANIACS PRETENDING SELL 4million of this STUPID ARROGANT DEVICE!

i readed in somewhere.

THEY ARE SICK! ISTRUE!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hypnotiqphil:
Funny how you say my post proves your point, when your own post reply proves your point also. Seems a bit hypocritical.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
It is IP53 rated, just like the HTC 10. Feel free to google it, has been posted numerous places today.

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Then don't buy it... Not sure what you are going on and on about?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yyz71:
But he's right you know ;)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrgwap03:
Cool. Wish it was dust resistant to lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
lets keep on topic and not derail the thread
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
I'm upset with myself that I'm considering picking this thing up once it hits the hands of a few YouTube reviewers.

I'm torn.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Laverick74:
Fingerprint is present?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fineazbro:
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-pixel-and-pixel-xl-somewhat-splash-and-dust-resistant-ip53/
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
The specs do not match or beat most flagship phones, as most have sd card slots, OIS, and a lot better rating for water resistance and many have stereo or dual speakers where pixel has one speaker, and these other flagship phones most are cheaper as the Htc 10 is now $549 and the s7 edge is cheaper and these are just two examples there are many more. Also they clocked the 821 to an 820 speed so there will be no advantage basically none speed wise.

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Yes fingerprint scanner is present just on the back which to me the front is so much easier than fishing around on the back trying to find it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
I guess none of that means anything to me. I find it particularly silly people want waterproof ratings on non waterproof devices. Besides it's just a rating. Read the fine print. As for OIS I really could care less. It has the highest camera rating of any device including crapple. So they figured out something there. And for the speakers, not a single device with or without dual speakers has ever sounded good to me. I imagine if these minor points matter then yeah don't buy it. No one is making you. The snapdragon 810 however is a second generation chip which means better heat management, performance and overall bug fixes.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I was just responding to your saying that the specs match or beat all current flagships on the market, which clearly they do not. While the OIS does not mean anything to you it does to a lot of people including myself, and the water rating does not matter to me but to many it does and apple and samsung have the premium water rating. Then take in to account no sd card slot which most flagship phones do have and yes its a big deal to many. And the shoddy audio via one speaker facing down well that is anything but premium and many have a lot better see Htc 10 just for one example, and add viper4android and its really even more an awesome audio. You list the 810 ? Pixel comes with the 821 but google clocks them to the 820 speed so no speed difference over the 820 of the other flagship phones. If you like it more power to you, but in all honesty its not matching or no where near beating the specs of other flagship phones and the others are all less money as Htc 10 is $549 and even the s7 and s7 edge are cheaper than pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
But overall user experience on the other devices makes it not worth it. Is the pixel expensive, absolutely. But I would take vanilla Android over TouchWiz or iOS any day. If the sgs7 could be unlocked I would be on it. I'm keeping my 6p for myself. The pixel is for my wife and she is done with Samsung and I don't think she will like apple. And yes I meant the 821 not 810. I think the overall experience with the pixel will be cool. If not, oh well. To Swappa.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
The Htc 10 is pretty close to vanilla android as can be, Motorola is pretty close to that too, and both are not crappy samsung software and Htc and Motorola have great Dev support being the most mods and custom roms and tweaks. The Htc 10 is a lot cheaper and has the missing features minus the high water rating and amoled but many including myself can take amoled or leave it, and Htc 10 is $549 what $200 less than pixel and 5.2 screen over 5.0 of pixel. Pixel is just overpriced and missing many flagship features and even higher premium price.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
Ok. The Pixel is expensive. We all agree. I just don't see the point in saying it over and over.

All of the other missing features are subjective, so there is no point arguing them. If you care about OIS, SD card, and front speakers this isn't the phone for you. And that's ok.

Many people care about those 3 features, but many people (myself included) don't. And either is ok.

The value placed on the unlimited cloud storage, google assistant, etc on the Pixel is also subjective. As such it is up to the individual to decide the worth to THEM.

If you like the Pixel, buy it. If not don't.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
To say it's missing any flagship features is really one sided. I understand it's not for you but be reasonable. It's still a great device overall IMO. And it is selling out online so others are in agreement. Not here to sway anyone though. To each their own.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flex360:
I may consider picking it up once the price drops. I'm gonna see what new phones get released in March. By then the price should be dropped anyway
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
The only other phone that piques my interest is the LG V20. I had the G3 and it was an awesome phone a couple of years ago. The reason I haven't gotten a OP3 is due to the 1080p screen. I don't want to move backward in resolution ya know?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
No its not one sided at all the facts are most flagship phones come with those features and google left them out of pixel, the facts speak for themselves. If you dont like those features that does not mean that others do not either as that is why the other flagship phones have them, as the other makers did not just add them as they cost them money to add not being free. If you like it thats great, but a lot of people like those features google left out and this thread is about why people canceled their pixel orders. So to each their own yes but the facts are many features are missing that other flagship phones do have, features that people do like and care about as that is why many canceled because they realized hey there are flagship phones out with a lot better features for a lot less money such as the Htc 10 for $200 less @ $549

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There is a difference, when someone posts something that is not true like post " The pixel line specs match or beat most flagship phones " then they need to be corrected. If someone likes pixel they can but you cant post things about it that are untrue, and that statement was completely untrue. Maybe those features meant nothing to him but to many they do and many flagship phones include them. If you do not like people correcting posts that are untrue then you have the option of going to another thread, but everywhere on xda people reply to posts that are completely untrue and can be proven to be.

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Come 2017 the flagship phones will come with the 830 processor so this will definitely be out of date tech, but that is the nature of the beast lol. Always better toys coming out lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
You need to chill. No one's making you buy anything. If you believe it's your duty to hang on my every word and start an argument, maybe you need to step back and ego check yourself. The specs are matched whether you like it or not. OIS and dual speakers are just add ons and mostly preferences that make no difference in day to day use. I'm talking about core hardware functionality. If you don't understand why the 821 will perform better then maybe you need to educate yourself on why a processor company would make a second rev of the same chip. People had the exact same attitude towards the Nexus chip and it still outperforms in real life usage compared to even today's flagships. It's not always a numbers game that leads to a superior device. The pixel was designed to run 7.1. No other company can make that claim. Plus the many other software perks you get with pixel. It's OK to have a different opinions, but you are here to shove it down my throat. I GET IT. You don't like the device. And that's ok. But get over yourself.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
What about the Htc 10 ? After all Htc made the pixel you just thought about getting ? Htc 10 is $200 cheaper than pixel and 5.2 screen over 5.0 screen and higher resolution than pixel. And Htc 10 has great audio dual speaker add viper4android and it really sounds even better. And Htc 10 has an sd card slot so no need to pay more for 128 gig, then add OIS. It has a lot of Dev following with custom roms and mods up the ying yang lol. I love mine just would like a bigger screen as I had the Motorola Nexus 6 with 6 inch screen so been spoiled for life lol.

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Just because you like it does not make it " match or beat the specs of most flagship phones. We get it you like it and dont care about those premium features listed but that is your cup of tea to act like they mean nothing is just your opinion and the facts support that being completely false. Your the one that started this attitude I listed that it does not include those premium features that other do and I gave proof of examples and you just got an attitude about it. Just because you say that does not make it true facts speak for themselves... You cant trade off one feature for another the facts are supported by the people on here canceling orders for this over priced non premium device with many flagship features missing. I like Htc but Google dropped the ball on this one. People do not want a phone missing flagship phone key features for an extra premium price.

And for the record google clocked the 821 down to 820 speeds if you cant understand that has no performance gain what so ever their 821 works no faster than the 820 in the Htc 10...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
Oh the ego...

Yep it's me. You are absolutely right. I'm sure you are always right. My mistake. I didn't realise I was in the presence of such greatness. I bow to you and your infinite knowledge.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Your the one on here praising pixel your ego you got upset when I pointed out your statement that pixel matches or beats most flagship specs well that was false. I guess you cant handle the truth your ego had to get aggressive. You can praise it all you want but facts are facts. You can bow to being wrong. If you cant handle being proven wrong then you need to get some help dealing with your ego. Facts are facts I gave them and you took it personal. If you cant deal with being proven wrong then that is on you.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Gizmoe:
We obviously have a different opinion of what classifies as a flagship device. I felt you were getting aggressive in your last statement when you also called out the guy who posted below me who did not agree with you. Then you preached to another user who wasn't even talking to you about how superior the HTC 10 is. You are here to cram your opinion down people's throat. I have only been talking to you. If you can't see how you have behaved in a pushy and negative manner than I feel sorry for you. I know you are the type who will need the last word, so go ahead and tear me a new one. I've said my piece and will no longer be responding to this thread. I will enjoy my pixel regardless so it really doesn't matter. :laugh: Peace!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Excuse me ? What I have been listing is facts not opinion. Those features I listed sd card slot, OIS and premium stereo sound, those are common flagship phone features which makes them popular features otherwise most flagship phones would not have them, do not understand why you cant seem to understand that. Like I said just because you do not care about those features does not mean the masses do not. Your the one being aggressive as you seem to think given facts proving your wrong is being aggressive to you well its not sorry you cant handle being wrong. Your the one trying to cram false praise for the pixel down peoples throats. I only stated facts proving you wrong. If you cant handle being proven wrong and need to act childish then you really need serious help.

That said enjoy your pixel that is NOT matching or exceeding the specs of most flagship phones...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] undertaker2k14:
I pre-ordered a Nexus 6P , got it, loved it and only departed with it (still miss it) once I got the S7 from Samsung for free and keeping two phones made little sense. It was totally worth $499+ tax that I paid at the time. No way the Pixel XL is worth $869+tax, it doesn't even have stereo speakers to compensate for those huge bezels.

My first taste of the Pixel line (again pre-ordered on Day 1) with the Pixel C left a very very sour taste due to the fact that Google never properly acknowledged or fixed the Wifi bug (despite Anandtech calling them out on it) and it remains the device with the worst wireless performance I've seen since my BB Bold from 7 years ago. This only reinforces the point.RIP Nexii, you will be sorely missed. Shame on you Google, shame on you!

This move will backfire so bad. They alienated their geek audience and no Mr. Smith next door ain't buying a Pixel anytime soon to make up for it!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] alexjzim:
Current HTC 10 owner here, with the regular Pixel 128gb on preorder. While I agree that the lack of certain specs is disheartening, my issue with the 10 is actually the opposite: coming from the 5" M9, I found the 10 waaay too big. It was just too big that one handed use became uncomfortable. The software pros of the Pixel, and the smaller 5" screen with virtual keys are why I decided to return the HTC 10, despite considering myself an audiophile.

I recommend reading http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13171712/pixel-phone-by-google-specs-design-reaction. While it is missing some features, it is clearly still a great phone. We were all waiting for that unobtanium secret feature, but the phone fully leaked before launch. So as the article mentions it appears stale, whereas holistically its a great phone.

Also the 821 has other performance gains such as a newer modem, dedicated camera processing core, better reception, and newer VoLTE https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/10/04/pixel-phones-made-google-powered-snapdragon-821

Google publicly fixed the wifi bug, and I love my Pixel C. It rules as a portable computer, and confidence in that is why I got the pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
The Htc 10 is a smaller flagship phone, most like the s7 edge and the Motorola moto's are even bigger, last years nexus 6p was even 5.7 inch screen. I had the m9 also and my Htc 10 fits in my same leather belt clip case that I had for my m9 so they are not much different in size at all. Most people are calling pixel way over priced compared to other flagship phones.

I myself and most others never said it was not a good phone just way over priced compared to other flagship phones and its lacking many key features that other flagship phones have and at a discounted price such as Htc 10 for $549 being what $200 less. Most just dont want to pay more for a phone that has premium features left out that others have and google is trying to charge way more for less.

But the 821 is being clocked slower to the speeds of the 820 so the 821 in the pixel is not faster than the 820.

Congrats hope your happy with yours but this thread is people that canceled their pixel order because they realized it was missing too many flagship features that most other flagship phones already have. Trading one feature for another is not what most people want, these flagship phones come with these features because they are what people want and google flat out ignored what people want and put what they think people should want and figured we can cut costs and leave these other features out, and for a lot of people that does not fly.