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[Moto G 2015 General] ExaHamza:
Yes you are right, but I'm one of thousands users that use pure stock!
[Moto G 2015 General] reeeju:
Signed....
[Moto G 2015 General] gene.pavlovsky:
Signed.
[Moto G 2015 General] vinardi32:
Signed! 5 left for 500! Come on...

Enviado desde mi MotoG3 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
500 signatures milestone reached!
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
[MENTION=1006674]lost101[/MENTION] I have posted this in a few G+ communities (Moto G, Moto G 2015 Owners, and Android) and will share it any relative ones I find.
[Moto G 2015 General] Iqbal Ansari:
I think you are forgetting that in order to have a fully functional custom rom we need official kernel source codes. Otherwise some stuff will remain broken or will be partially working.

Also new functions and optimization are always welcome which is possible only through updated source codes.

Also I'm yet to find a custom rom which is as rock solid as stock IMHO.
[Moto G 2015 General] lohanbarth:
Signed.
[Moto G 2015 General] pavanjadhaw:
390 signs more needed for 1000... :p
[Moto G 2015 General] Subinsmani:
M in,, :)
[Moto G 2015 General] mariox_92:
I think this wont happen this weekend, these last weeks the growth has been slow, so maybe we need a week more or so. Anyway, these are huge numbers, so lets hope Motorola does not ignore us
[Moto G 2015 General] himu_joy:
+1
[Moto G 2015 General] notDroid:
Since it is expected that we hit the 15k signs this weekend, I have something in mind.

I don't know what is the support we have from XDA (owner et al.) but maybe we can write a letter and do a digital sign with the Change.org link or some kind of certification about the 15k signs and the support of XDA as a whole site. Then send it to Lenovo/Motorola.

Other strategy that we used back in 2014 on Samsung Galaxy S3 mini subforum was: our device wasn't getting any kernel update and that was an issue for the unofficial CM developer so we all sent the request for that update via Samsung's contact page and finally we got an updated kernel. Maybe we can individually send a request for Nougat update to Lenovo/Motorola.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
[MENTION=4143913]notDroid[/MENTION] - Motorola Support are regularly being bombarded with tweets and do sometimes reply:

https://twitter.com/Carloskyland/status/798936443569795076​

However I suspect CS on twitter is simply a black hole for 'noise,' the requests are never taken seriously and go no further. I do see a lot of people rage-tweeting at them.
[Moto G 2015 General] notDroid:
[MENTION=1006674]lost101[/MENTION] - I'm not a twitter-guy but I think that this isn't the way to let them know that we are a big group of people who wants the Nougat update, neither are those rage-tweeters. By the way, I was just droping some personal thoughts, you can take it or leave it to the dust.

15k signs doesn't seem enough...
[Moto G 2015 General] dau999:
+1
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Just to be clear, I was not dismissing your suggestions - only commenting on what I had observed. I don't know the actual value of having a 15k petition, but I can tell you people have been educated by it's existence. Look at the comments section of this recent article:

http://www.tudocelular.com/android/noticias/n82611/motorola-moto-g-2015-cm-14-1-android-nougat.html
​

Without this petition, most people would have bought the official line that 'the hardware does not support Android Nougat.'
[Moto G 2015 General] notDroid:
Excuse me if I sound rude, English isn't my native language and sometimes I struggle to communicate what I'm thinking about. I know you wasn't dismissing my suggestions.

It is a fact that the 15k signs have helped a lot and have contributed (and will keep contributing) a lot, opening the eyes of humans beings. But Motorola/Lenovo seems

to don't care what their customers claim. I think we have to waste all our resources to fight back for our Nougat update. Now we have a new weapon, the Official CM 14.1

that show how well Nougat runs on our hardware.

Finishing, I won't make a detour from the original thread but I will keep my support up, although if any other idea comes to my mind I will share it here.

Thanks for your interest on our device and keep up the good work fellow MotoG3 user.

Regards.
[Moto G 2015 General] prashant_ag_14:
Should we wait for official Android n,or move to official cm 14.1??????
[Moto G 2015 General] Subinsmani:
Go to cm14.1...

Only u forget about VoLTE..
[Moto G 2015 General] Aathil 007:
Hello Bros is CM14.1 officially released for Moto G3
[Moto G 2015 General] raul6:
One more vote in favour
[Moto G 2015 General] pio80:
I was able to go up to about 6 months :)

Then I moved...and I do not regret..

Cm 14,1 (good , very good :) ) could be an important argument against the current statement from lenovo..

Regards
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
Having CM 14/14.1 means nothing (to Moto)... If you follow the threads on the official forums you would understand why it's not relevant.
[Moto G 2015 General] EsromTech:
I signed it for almost three weeks, yes, I would like to have a more recent stock if I need it in the future. I really like the work developed here, in specific CM14.1 and CM13, if Lenovo upgrade or not, for me will not be the problem, as I will always be custom.

Only that this can not prevent a user from wanting such an update, it is the best we can and in fact, if you paid little or much for the device, you paid anyway, so you deserve attention for this.

Lenovo is not required to update because she has already given us an update for M. But she can give us N if she wants. I hope this happens.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Reminder:

This petition is about bringing attention to the fact that Motorola Mobility / Lenovo quietly changed their upgrade policy regarding the Moto G. Anyone who bought a Moto G (3rd Gen) - especially the 2GB RAM version or Turbo Edition - did so with the expectation that those handsets would get two major Android updates: Android Marshmallow and Nougat. They are also lying to customers by saying the hardware cannot support 'Nougat.'
[Moto G 2015 General] firdous95:
This is my situation...

I bought G turbo because i saw somewhere in their product page that it will get android M and N update...:rolleyes:

They released this phone with android 5.1 when android M was already up and running then only after few days they released android M...

The phone was released with a price tag of about 210 usd in India. Then within 30 days of release its price was officially dropped down to 183 usd

Then price constantly dropped and sold as low as 132 usd...

Its almost like a scam for early adopters. Now they are rubbing salt on the wounds of those customers.
[Moto G 2015 General] Limberjr:
Cuenten con migo lenobo la mayoría de gente quiere el Motorola moto g 3 con Android 7.0 por favor
[Moto G 2015 General] Subinsmani:
Please will u speak in english.. :)
[Moto G 2015 General] thebaconbox:
I don't even have a moto g; I have a moto x pure, but this maddens me. Give Moto G3 Users the update to nougat. This phone was made by Motorola, not Lostovo.
[Moto G 2015 General] nandakis4:
Moto Becoming greedy :D

if they give support for Osprey & merlin - then every people even around corners who likes STOCK will buy them :D by leaving 2016 g4 and g4plus which are expensive :D

so Moto is planning to play a game .. so that it can increase sales of g4 and g4play ..:rolleyes:

it would have been better if they didnt launch g4 and g4plus this year and waited for another year :cool:
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
In Europe, Osprey is just as expensive as the 4th Gen Models. Carrier-discounted versions are no longer available. Merlins are hard to find in my research and again no cheaper than when they launched.

At present an unlocked Moto G Play costs less than unlocked Osprey - but of course it has weaker hardware and is a poorer handset overall.

EDIT: I'm not saying your wrong. Certainly dropping Osprey and Merlin support saves them money and forces some people to buy at least the Moto G Play (or higher model) if they want Nougat and some security for their data. But now they have to deal with this petition and a lot of bad noise around their name.
[Moto G 2015 General] ExaHamza:
This petition will only roll here on the internet, or there is an organization that can help us.
[Moto G 2015 General] Saquibshaikh:
Desperately waiting for the official update.... Avoiding CM 14.1 due to the VolTE issue :(?
[Moto G 2015 General] sargam44:
I'm waiting for official word from moto. Now we almost 15k supporters so what is the next plan.
[Moto G 2015 General] mike....:
I got the Moto G3 on summer thinking that I will eventually get official Nougat.

I don't really care because I only run custom firmware but support from Motorola could have made Nougat Roms far better than they are now.

Anyways, the Moto G3 was my first Motorola handset; and the last. Motorola is dead and I won't fall for masked Crap-ovos with a Moto logo on them. Good luck Motorola.
[Moto G 2015 General] sachin09:
Im in
[Moto G 2015 General] sargam44:
I love the stock Android and moto addon softwares like moto action and display . Can anyone among developers can build the rom of Aosp with moto feature
[Moto G 2015 General] ranaxda200:
It's there in custom roms, moto display turns ambient display and all gestures are there. BTW be in topic. This thread is not for this discussion.
[Moto G 2015 General] arun356y:
The only limitation on custom ROMs is the lack of VoLTE. I would really appreciate if Moto provide Nougat update.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Discussions of Volte are going to receive as warm a welcome here is in the CM threads which is to say fairly icy. ;)

No that's on topic:good: Petitions like this one really do put pressure on Motorola even though they would never admit it.
[Moto G 2015 General] arun356y:
I just expressed my opinion nothing off-topic, I haven't asked any questions regarding VoLTE.
[Moto G 2015 General] shankufx4y:
im in
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Exactly my point: This isn't a feature opinion or feature request thread, something we've been reminded of previously (just 3 pages ago). This is a thread for petition to get Moto to update Osprey to Nougat. Don't take it personally. Those are just facts. I mentioned it not to pick on you but to prevent volte seekers from trashing this thread as they did to the Osprey CM14 thread. If you were talking about something other than volte I probably would not have said anything.
[Moto G 2015 General] sanchith.hegde:
Thanks I also signed the petition.
[Moto G 2015 General] mariox_92:
15k goal is close! Continue sharing the petition:D
[Moto G 2015 General] samarkuila:
Need official nougat update.

Yes I support.
[Moto G 2015 General] nARMstrong20:
I hate to be "that" guy, but just wanted to provide a bit of context.

It says here (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-gen-Moto-Gs-are-sold-in-the-country_id73730) that 500 k ospreys were sold on Flipkart India. By that number alone this petition is only around 3% of that number, and we haven't even taken account of device sales in the rest of India, let alone the whole world. As much as it stinks that were getting the short end of the stick from Motorola, the petition signers are unfortunately a very, very small minority here.
[Moto G 2015 General] mariox_92:
You are relatively right. And yet, the Marshmallow petition for Moto E 2nd generation had only 674 signers and the device finally got the update (check it here)

We need hope :)
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That is both needlessly discouraging and unaware of how social action works.

That the protestors are outnumbered (or more importantly out resourced) by a large organized entity would be a terrible reason to quit. Also, if I may get so heavy, such an attitude would have allowed some of the worst episodes in human history to persist longer than they did.

Petitions like this do pressure Moto though they would never admit it, so let's keep keeping on.

---------- Post added at 08:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:52 PM ----------

I do believe that was the one I started, and I did a poor job in a variety of ways, although I was a nightmare to Moto's "President's office" outside the petition:). Truth be told, prior to that small Moto E petition there had been a massive one strongly backed by developers and device users and well targeted to Motorola's poor update practices overall rather than just one device. That one certainly had vastly more impact but it all adds up.

I reiterate: Petitions like this do pressure Moto although they won't admit it.
[Moto G 2015 General] PalmCentro:
XT1528 didn't get the MM update.. Just saying.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I thought they covered all of them by the time the got my my lowly XT1511 retail which they covered very late. If this is your device: Moto E, (2nd Gen), 4G/LTE, XT1528, (CDMA) - for Verizon Prepaid, USA then Moto gets to blame provider whether that is true or not. They've done that before.
[Moto G 2015 General] xdadigger:
Yes. Moto g3 deserves update to N. Cuz moto g4 play is on the list and moto g3 has better specs than that. So we want update. :good:
[Moto G 2015 General] scorpionk189:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] nealoff:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] methuselah:
It will going to come anyhow. As motox play has volte support in few ROMs..
[Moto G 2015 General] sargam44:
Any Android Blog like Android police or PhoneArena not raise our question .as they write down the blog last year for moto e 2nd gen when not getting the update . also our petition has 15K signature they doesn't discuss single time like they not heard about it.
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
I m in
[Moto G 2015 General] Lord Gu:
Então que dize que nos eo resto do mundo e obrigado a comprar outros dispositivos pra te apenas uma nova interface e performance no smartphone "então nós somos escravos das fabricantes de smartphones pra uma nova atualização do Android"
[Moto G 2015 General] Hedied4me:
Solamente Ingles

English only
[Moto G 2015 General] RJ1995:
Yes
[Moto G 2015 General] minkimac:
The support for VoLTE has begun

Check this:

http://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-official-resurrection-remix-5-8-0-t3507270

It is really working and the ROM is very good and much stable.
[Moto G 2015 General] sargam44:
As we have 15 K support so when we deliver this petition to Motorola
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Typically such a petition would be configured so that each time someone signs it an email is generated to Motorola, so in that sense it is continually being delivered to them. To your point it makes sense to make some noise about it at certain key moments.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
The reason why Moto G3 should get Official Nougat is not very clear. It will be an utter loss to Motorola.

The only selling point I see for Moto G4 Play is that it will get Nougat update. If Moto G3 series is also given this opportunity, then Moto G4 Play will become useless.

Motorola doesn't want to update this device. No amount of petitioning will help. Also we are not getting media support. Sites like International Business Times are also saying that this device should be updated, but not pointing to the petition. Also we have only 15K supporters. We need far more than this for Motorola to atleast "consider" the case.
[Moto G 2015 General] aadison:
Chances of getting nougat for Moto G 3rd is becoming very less as some sites saying Moto is releasing Moto G5 and G5 plus in March.

So they're only focusing on sales not something on older devices updates.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Not to dismiss what you are saying, but your words carry too much certainty. You don't actually know what effect this petition will have, nor does anyone else. To repeat what I said above:

This petition is about bringing attention to the fact that Motorola Mobility / Lenovo quietly changed their upgrade policy regarding the Moto G. Anyone who bought a Moto G (3rd Gen) - especially the 2GB RAM version or Turbo Edition - did so with the expectation that those handsets would get two major Android updates: Android Marshmallow and Nougat. They are also lying to customers by saying the hardware cannot support 'Nougat.'​

At least with this petition, people now know what to expect from Motorola Mobility / Lenovo going forward.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
You think a petition (which is not even being covered by media) will draw the attention of a company like Lenovo?

You are also saying "people now know what to expect..." You think majority people care for Android updates?

I have seen people asking me:

"What is Nougat?"

"What is the use of updates? The phone is running fine."

Many cannot say which Android version their phone is running.

If people really cared for updates on Moto, then the E3 series would not have been such successful.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
No-one knows the answer to your first question. This petition is the first aimed at Moto to amass substantial support - this is new territory.

You are posting on XDA; the majority of people here, and especially those that signed the petition do care about updates. The people that need to know are being informed by the existence of this petition. From my casual observation; when articles are published in Latin America discussing Moto Devices / Updates - the comments section convey a great deal of awareness around how Motorola Mobility / Lenevo are behaving in regard to device support (often citing the Moto G 2015 Nougat situation).
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
There is something lacking in your ratio of awareness (little) to certainty (much), and you might just topple over if any more of that blind certainty gets to your head.

What petition have you ever started or tracked and done a statistical analysis of? If any, please share the experience. If none, then remember the relatively narrow range of experience you have in this regard compared to others participating in this thread. Also, consider that in different regions the distribution of the phone may be heavier or lighter, and that for every person you see wondering what Nougat is there may be dozens who know exactly what Nougat is and want it very much. This is something that can be known by studying geographic distribution of device sales and petition signers as well as participating in forums such as (but not certainly not only) XDA. Petitions like this absolutely do put pressure on Motorola although they would never admit it. This is also something you might know if you've been reading this thread and others about previous petitions. By declaring petitions dont work you actually do Motorola's bidding here because they would love it if people believed that.

Beyond these points of fact there is this, which I'll pose as metaphorically: You would not be well-received if you visited someone's house, sat down at their table, and said "I don't like this food". Certainly, debates about the quality of the meal could be had but you just don't sit down with everyone else and start deriding what most of them like, in the process discouraging those who want to participate from doing so just because you don't like the meal.

If you don't like what is being served then don't pull up to the table.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
I get that metaphor.. :D

I don't know where you are from. Maybe people are more aware there. That's nice. I am just saying these from my bitter experiences I have had after speaking to many people where I live.

I am not against this petition. I would be very glad if Motorola did push the Nougat update. I signed it and then shared it among my friends (who are using Moto G3). Most of them ignored (maybe one or two did not) and laughed at me. I thought if people don't care, then why should Motorola do?

The petition may also be creating pressure on Motorola but out of millions of devices sold ( 2.6 million only in India, according to a very old report) 15k is a small number..

Again I am not against this petition. Sorry for being stupid.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
[MENTION=7237343]bin.sayantan[/MENTION] - I don't think anyone said you are stupid. Certainly there is apathy around updates for a large percentage of Android users, as with iOS users. But we have to try something in this situation, and even if Motorola / Lenovo ignore the petition completely - there are still consequences for them. People will see that device support can be dropped at any time, they can lie about the reason why and (Bootloader Locked) handset owners are left ultimately helpless.
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
Moto g turbo should get nougat update
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
Both Merlin (Moto G Turbo Edition) and Osprey (Moto G 3rd gen) should.
[Moto G 2015 General] mokkami:
Merlin & Osprey should get nougat
[Moto G 2015 General] MackxtheAndroidGeek:
But why Motorola is lying that Osprey is not supporting Nougat Requirements. The Moto G4 Play has none of the less, same Snapdragon 410 as the Osprey but down clocked at 1.2 GHz and has the same Adreno 306 GPU. I think that the only reason Motorola is targeting the G4 Play for Nougat rather than Osprey is, to decrease the popularity of Ospery and increase the value of G4 Play because it will get Nougat. But performance wise, I own both G4 Play and Osprey. I always find the G4 Play lagging behind the Osprey, G4 Play is slower in opening apps, games and HEATS UP with gaming, a characteristic which Osprey doesn't suffer with. So there were my thoughts on Moto G4 Play and Moto G(3rd Gen).
[Moto G 2015 General] CypherPotato:
I'm in.
[Moto G 2015 General] akhilman6:
I'm in.
[Moto G 2015 General] EMONESSboy:
i'm in.
[Moto G 2015 General] gittygoat:
Signed (in anger)!
[Moto G 2015 General] gzatti:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
I contacted moto india facebook page.

They said it will be updated to nougat and released as soon as it gets ready.
[Moto G 2015 General] Subinsmani:
He he he...

If you ask them when will mi 3s prime will get android nougat they will answer like this.. [emoji12] [emoji12]
[Moto G 2015 General] Raywk:
Can you please give us screenshot of this conversation?
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That is an open ended non-committal "promise" the likes of which they have repeatedly betrayed. The words "as soon as it gets ready" let them get off the hook by saying well it was never ready.

BTW, Another form of action people can take in addition to signing this petition and in addition to the suggestion I previously made to contact Moto corporate offices (I'm still looking for contacts) is to hit the Motorola support threads for Osprey hard with requests for the update. Dont let them say no update or that they dont know when. Just keep pointing out that as long as they fail to update this device we are forced to use a device that is less secure and less functional than peer devices.
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
Yea bro it seems they are avoiding us
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
Here is screenshot...
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
That is the same generic answer everyone gets... You could be asking about the Droid Bionic and that is the response you would get, generic, canned, and non-specific.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for providing a chance for me to beat this drum again. :)

Repeating and refining previous advise: Don't ask. Tell MoForola that their failure to update this device leaves it less functional and less secure than peer devices. The wording here is important since treating "peer" devices inequitably is essentially a form of economic and regional discrimination. Our greater concern may be the actual software on the device but MoForola's lawyers and marketers may know that if this practice could be deemed discriminatory in the future their best chance to address it is now. Just another leverage point.
[Moto G 2015 General] d1804:
I'm in!

I want this update too!

Send from Moto G (3rd gen.)
[Moto G 2015 General] mentat:
15,830 supporters

I'm the 15,830th supporter!

Thanks.
[Moto G 2015 General] MackxtheAndroidGeek:
Guys no Sign of Nougat for Osprey.....

Think so we must flash CM 14.1 for getting Nougat.......