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[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
If you really want Nougat soon, go for CM (like I have). Keep in mind that it is still being developed and not everything works.
[Moto G 2015 General] PedroH29:
With 1 GB RAM is hard
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
It's apparently not so hard for the Moto G Play (4th Gen) with it's weaker CPU and 1GB RAM.
[Moto G 2015 General] PedroH29:
Oh, yes
[Moto G 2015 General] sticktornado:
I don't want to be pessimistic or anything, but do you really think that Lenovo will actually respond to us? I honestly think they couldn't go any more downhill, and I imagine that because of this avoiding of the Nougat update a majority of people will consider this their last Motorola phone.
[Moto G 2015 General] khatodankit:
Moto had 2 advantages:

1. Cheaper phones with decent specs

2. Promised updates to software

#1 has already lost significance with abundant better spec phones from likes of LeEco, Xiaomi, etc. #2 is being killed by Lenovo.

So, now I am left with no reason to prefer Moto over any other Chinese phones, especially when Xiaomi has surpassed Moto significantly in #1.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
Also see the trend of ROM development of the newer Moto phones. Moto G4 series has not yet received any official CM ROM (whereas the G3 has been getting support from CM 12). Moto E3... well it is comparatively newer but has received official twrp. It seems there aren't many developers working for these devices.

Edit: G4 now has nightlies
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Geeky Ranjit's 2016 OEM Review. Paraphrasing: Motorola launched so many phones I can't remember them all, software updates have slowed down and security fixes have stopped. Motorola's response? We make too many devices.

https://youtu.be/SJzamBT5F9E?t=341​
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
This petition is now the biggest petition to Motorola. The bootloader petition [on change.org] had 16053 supporters. Last checked this petition has 16078!
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Is it possible there is more than one variant? '1GB version' direct from Moto:

https://www.motorola.co.uk/products/moto-g-play​
[Moto G 2015 General] mariox_92:
Wow, didn't know that actually. You were right then, this petition has even a more powerful reason to exist!
[Moto G 2015 General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned... this thread is about a petition, not updates. Threads on updates already exist elsewhere.
[Moto G 2015 General] shekars951:
When will this petition is submitted to Motorola
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Yes it should be submitted soon to Motorola since moto g4 has been updated to nought. Motorola should know that moto g3 users are still out,g3 being their one of the best selling phones and hence give nought to g3 and g turbo edition users. Osprey and merlin
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
Remember an email gets sent to Lenovo/Moto every time some one signs the petition... Meaning they have gotten 16k+ emails so far.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Good so when can we expect Motorola to take action or give some news about nougat on moto g3?
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
Honestly, never... When we started this we knew the possibility that it might actually effect some change was slim, and since this has been ongoing for 2.5 months and they haven't even acknowledged our concerns is disheartening.

Lenovo has shown that they have no interest in "older" devices, although they could surprise us, it is doubtful.
[Moto G 2015 General] rubiicon59:
Just signed up although I have little hope it will make a difference. Several OEM's are dropping support after a relatively short time for their biggest sellers.

It sucks but it seems to be a growing trend. The bastards.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
True, but they'll never let us know if it made them budge.

Also, I dug into the Moto exec and marketing contacts I used for a (very small) Moto E petition last year but dont think any are a still there. A few top ones have left just this year and the rest seem to be hiding better than they used to. If anyone knows such email addresses I'd be glad to try a direct approach for a while. Hope or not, with few other avenues of communication the petition becomes more relatively meaningful.
[Moto G 2015 General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned. Keep to the subject please...
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Don't let em get you down. The last Moto E 2nd gen to get Marshmallow received it hilariously late in the life cycle (too late for many people) but did receive it. One benefit of an update even if it is late for people who've switch to custom ROMs is that we would finally have a stock image available to flash back to.
[Moto G 2015 General] Raghav998:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
As the question is raised here, it seems like there should be a legal requirement - in this context - for the OEM to roll-out Google Security Patches as soon as they are available and to provide a 'reasonable' period of support - 18/24 months.

I appreciate that it is nothing new for companies to use the strategy of flooding a market with products and then not supporting them, but the integrity of these handsets are entirely dependent on Motorola releasing a fix - while Bootloader locked.

Hypothetical Scenario:

I buy a Moto G 4th Gen handset tomorrow, and own no other device - laptop / tablet etc. A few weeks later I become the victim of identity fraud. It can be proven that the data on my phone had been compromised as I use no other device. Motorola did not roll-out a security fix Google released months ago. The vulnerability has been public knowledge since the moment Google announced the patch.​
[Moto G 2015 General] happyxxx1:
[MENTION=1006674]lost101[/MENTION], eaiser option will be google makes changes in policy which limits oems from modifying os to such extent that security patch from directly google cant be installed.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
I think that the freedom OEMs get to modify stock Android is seen as a "beauty" of the OS. And this is what makes every device so different that it becomes difficult to push updates on all of them.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Yes, the UI / Skin is part of the brand identity. It's hard to see a solution; unless while under warranty, an OEM has to legally update the device. OEMs will always want to maintain some control over Android, and reshape it to their own design philosophy.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
17,500 signatures milestone has been reached and passed.
[Moto G 2015 General] sargam44:
It seems that Motorola know about the petition and silently working for OS update . Today I've got two security patch update (July &. October)
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
I doubt this petition had anything to do with normal security updates... Lenovo got behind, probably after firing 90% of Motorola's employees, and now they are playing catch-up.
[Moto G 2015 General] adityak1303:
I agree with you that Lenovo is just toying with us but still there's nothing wrong in keeping our hopes up.
[Moto G 2015 General] happyxxx1:
I one thing is for sure we will not get nougat update in this quarter. This petition is only to keep that 1% hope alive that we might get update in next quarter.
[Moto G 2015 General] sandor clegane:
They won't be releasing nougat for osprey :(
[Moto G 2015 General] adityak1303:
Almost everyone knows that we are not going to get android Nougat but still there is nothing wrong in trying and keeping our hopes up. And who knows, this petition might just get us the update.
[Moto G 2015 General] VikasMahour:
After updating to latest security patches i got Baseband :not found shown in bootloader,did u got that??
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Agreed. Also, even if we dont get an update the pressure put on Motorola does have some effect in the big picture. Without it and past actions Moto would be even worse about updating than they are now.

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Troubleshooting the update would not be a topic for this thread. If it is common issue you may be able to find a thread about it on XDA (or elsewhere) or create one. [MENTION=1239153]kumeipark[/MENTION], this goes for you and anyone else as well. Please respect forum rules and the stated topic of this thread.
[Moto G 2015 General] kumeipark:
After 3 or 4 Reboots it will appear
[Moto G 2015 General] Doofitator:
Clutching at straws, but down the bottoms of this article it proposes that we might get the update in the second quarter of this year :/

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.m...-download-install-latest-os-23120980.html/amp
[Moto G 2015 General] EMONESSboy:
is there any chance of android 7 for moto g3.? i got a dream yesternight m device was runing android 7 ?
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That is no commitment from Motorola but the article echoes a thought that I share here repeatedly; The update could come very late (as has happened before). Also to consider is the fact that keeping this pressure on Motorola is a good thing for us even if we dont get an update this time.

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Did your dream include signing the petition? :)
[Moto G 2015 General] arun356y:
If they release android 7 for moto g4 play there are chances they will provide update for g3 as well.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Why do u think so?they gonna release it for moto g4 play, they already said that
[Moto G 2015 General] arun356y:
G4 play having same hardware as moto g3 so there are chances.
[Moto G 2015 General] Subinsmani:
I dnt think osprey will not get android nougat because of 1gb ram model due to performance issue...

Lets wait...
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Thats what the debate is about if it can get it then why can't g3 Merlin and osprey
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Some insight into post-acquisition Lenovo-Motorola Mobility:

https://www.xda-developers.com/repo...-motorola-revival-efforts-at-time-of-purchase​
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
The unlocked Moto Z is getting Nougat in FEBRUARY!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-get-nougat-in-february-moto-z-play-in-march/

Unbelievable... How can an OEM be so slow in rolling out updates to its premium range?

I was almost sure that Motorola would not put up a second update list. Now I am getting a feel that Motorola will not even be able to push out updates to all listed 15 devices before next Android O release.
[Moto G 2015 General] Taxidriver05:
Got an OTA-Update in Germany...

Updated from 24.41.33.osprey_reteu_2gb.reteu.en.EU.retgb (Android 6.0) to 24.71.2.osprey_reteu_2gb.reteu.en.EU.retgb (Android 6.0.1). Hoped to see Nougat-Update... :(

Filesize of the Update is 351,0 MB...
[Moto G 2015 General] amritmalviya:
We are already on Android 6.0.1 in India
[Moto G 2015 General] H@R$H Shah:
yeah thats true. i didn think of merlin but osprey should get 7.0 update, after all they said we would get all the updates till 18 months, right ??
[Moto G 2015 General] Taxidriver05:
And what about 2GB model? It should fit to all requirements...
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
No... that is the history of many previous devices, they didn't say or promise we would get them for 18 or 24 months, they only said quick updates because of a stock Android experience.

The whole point of this isn't whether the device is technically capable or not, we know it is... even the 1GB versions should have no more issues running Nougat than it did with Marshmallow.

READ THE PETITION!!! The problem is Motorola's selective choices for updating devices and lack of consistency, this is something that has been going on since Lenovo took over, XDA even did a great article on it and how it is PLANNED and not just coincidence or bad luck: https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-and-updates-how-the-oem-plays-up-on-planned-obsolescence
[Moto G 2015 General] vaibhav800:
I'm IN....
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
For anyone that is curious about the current Motorola Nougat roll-out schedule: Moto Z Factory Firmware Images are now available - suggesting that development for that device is complete. It's Android 7.0 and Security Patch: 01/01/17. Presumably, Moto G (4th Gen) are next in line.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/techno...moto-e3-power-confirms-motorola/1/869941.html
[Moto G 2015 General] Doofitator:
Well, it looks like now all we can hope for is LineageOS 14.1 to come to our phones.

But the only reason I bought a Moto over any other manufacturer, is because of Motorola's extra features - twist for camera, etc.

LineageOS and other ROMS won't support such features. :(
[Moto G 2015 General] riggerman0421:
Lineage 14.1 is already official for this phone, and does support twist for camera and lift or wave for notification.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Motorola support page

It says moto e3 will remain on marshmallow
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
But no such thing for osprey or Merlin

Let's keep up our hopes
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Development for Nougat running on the Moto G Plus (5th Gen) only ended 12th January 2017 - the build-date of Android it will retail with. Resources may still be committed to the new line of 2017 handsets. Again, doesn't help us much; but still a little more insight into the internal workings at Motorola Mobility.
[Moto G 2015 General] rubiicon59:
.... internal workings.... = couldnt give a toss
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
Breaking News: Moto X series Android 7 update delayed until May 2017. Moto X users not amused.
[Moto G 2015 General] SayantanRC:
Nothing is really "breaking". I personally don't believe g4 play will see the update before next Android version is released.
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
Lol... MXPE is my daily device, I called this way back and everyone chastised me for it, just waiting for the "sorry, we are not upgrading this device to Nougat" announcement now, hope I'm wrong but won't believe it will get it until it happens.
[Moto G 2015 General] Doofitator:
At least the G4 will get 7.0.

Osprey and Merlin, at this point at least, will not :/
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
I've signed the petition a long time ago based on common sense even though I don't personally own a Motorola currently (my G2 got stolen long time ago, so I had to replace it)

A friend of mine has the osprey and I helped him unlock his bootloader and install LinrageOS the other day.

I can at least happily report (so far he is happy with the phone and performance as well) that the update worked great, and is extremely snappy on his phone.

He even said that it fixed a low responsive touchscreen bug for him.

So to everyone owning this device, at least there is an option.

As to Motorola breaking it's promise, not updating a brand new phone (this is irrelevant to what they promised really) I guess we have to vote with our wallets.

Buy phones that are user serviceable, and make sure you can update them on your own. Say no to manufacture slavery, don't buy "water resistant" phones that you can't repair or even replace the battery!

Water resistance is just a marketing pitch to push phones with an expected end of life.

How many phones have you lost to water damage? Me personally I've lost one electronic to water damage for the last 16 years and that was a keyboard (underlining that I'm not 16y/o, and I'm talking about the time I roughly started using and working more with electronics). Mobile phones? Zero.

And how about how many of my laptops or mobile phones needed a battery replacement at some time. Every single one (that was not prematurely and completely damaged). How many of them have required a small repair? Most of them.
[Moto G 2015 General] Sher1234:
A New Security Patch arrived for Moto G Turbo

Jan 2017 of about 12MB
[Moto G 2015 General] Doofitator:
Same here. 12.2MB security patch on Merlin, not that it means anything. OEMs are required to send these out for a couple of years, whether the phone is supported by the latest OS or not.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
I didn't get it,should I flash October firmware again and wait for update

xt 1557
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
No, they are not... If they were our US Retail G3's wouldn't be on December 2015 security patch still.

Why some regions are getting the update and others are not is frankly a mystery.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Can u tell me your country, I can use VPN to apply January's security patch to my turbo xt 1557 Indian model currently on October security patch
[Moto G 2015 General] Sher1234:
Bro I'm from India as well check out the above post by me in that read the system version in the image it will give you my location as well

& Vpn will not work in case of OTA
[Moto G 2015 General] Doofitator:
Hmm. I wasn't aware.

I read articles like the following. Wasn't aware some regions were being neglected.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/9to...ty-os-updates/amp/?client=ms-android-motorola
[Moto G 2015 General] pjc123:
I just installed Lineage on my Nexus 4 yesterday and I am very happy with it. Among other things, It finally fixed the slow wifi speed problem I was having; the last time wifi worked properly was with kit-kat! Since the MotoG 3rd Gen is my daily driver I don't want to mess with it right now, but after Lineage becomes rock solid on it I am going to install it there as well (Still too many issues reported in that thread). Heck, it was just released.....eventually there will be a stable release. I could care less what Motonovo ( or is it Lenorola) does...too little, too late at this point. Pisses me off that I am still on Android 6.0 and security patch December 1, 2015 on my MotoG, with no updates in sight. Plain irresponsible.
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
My friend is on the weekly from the 24th as far as I remember, I asked him today, and he said it's stable working for him.

With current events around Lineage OS and general development cycle for this ROM, I wouldn't expect a milestone build soon. Currently the weeklies are stable enough for daily use, but you need to make sure to archive old builds because new bugs do emerge sometimes.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
While I appreciate that people want to know about getting Nougat onto these devices, there is a flawed assumption that Stock Motorola Nougat will never be available. The petition itself describes why it's pretty much inevitable, with or without Motorola.
[Moto G 2015 General] Hritvik:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
We all hope that it will be released officially soon, but the current information (from Motorola including) points otherwise unfortunately.
[Moto G 2015 General] firuzmaster:
I've lost all hope in Motorola and now I'm using a custom ROM. I don't know why I ever waited for a stable update from Motorola, the CyanogenMod develepors outdid themselves with CM and LineageOS. You guys can wait all you want, but for those risk takers, LineageOS or any other custom ROMs don't disappoint.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
CM12.1 was on my Osprey within hours of it's purchase, but those who still have the device under warranty may understandably not want to unlock boot-loader, That being said, I'm glad you discovered CM/Lineage (I've been using it since KitKat/CM11) but dont forget that even then there is still a benefit to us if there is an official update. That benefit would be, to have a stock firmware package which we could flash back to, which in some cases has troubleshooting benefits; (eg and old case where flashing stock reset GPS to get it working in new ROM).

Just because we are on custom ROM does not mean we cannot of should not still pressure Moforola for an update.:)
[Moto G 2015 General] kumeipark:
CM21.1???
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, Thanks, that was supposed to be CM12.1. Edited post.
[Moto G 2015 General] khatodankit:
Received January 2017 security patch in India
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
That is amazing news to hear! Unfortunately this behaviour isn't happening in many regions and security patches are absolutely mandatory nowadays.

I'm also surprised to see India is one of the regions getting regular security patches since it's considered an emerging market.
[Moto G 2015 General] lost101:
India / Brazil are the primary markets for Moto handsets and where they launch first.
[Moto G 2015 General] danizord:
I'm in
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
I didn't received any patch so I had flashed a custom rom, should I go back to stock ROM ,if January security patch is being rolled out?

I didn't get it earlier so flashed a rom

What do u guys say?
[Moto G 2015 General] adityak1303:
Its an entirely personal decision. Its up to you to decide whether to stick with stock ROM or use a custom ROM. I would recommend to use any android N ROM as they are quite stable now and have a slight better performance than android M. And you also get security updates faster than stock.
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
[MENTION=7725765]adityak1303[/MENTION] puts it perfectly, it's your own personal choice.

For me the answer is clear as a day, with a custom ROM I get more features, faster patches and much better support.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
I flashed the stock ROM but didn't received the January security patch
[Moto G 2015 General] khatodankit:
Adding screenshot.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
I didn't:rolleyes:
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That may be true for you (as it is for me too) but some people would still prefer stock and we all would benefit from an official update. Having newer stock software to fall back on is a good thing even when running custom ROMs... which brings us full circle to the petition.
[Moto G 2015 General] GetSAS:
I'm not sure if i buy a Moto again with such an update policy...

Next time i may look for alternatives although i am very satisfied with my Moto G3

having no problems and very stable so far. I would rather stay within the family.

So i support the petition and hope for good news.
[Moto G 2015 General] engmia:
I wholeheartedly agree. That's why I've also signed the petition since day 1 or 2 and actively try not to purchase devices like this, but recently it seems most manufacturers have started playing this game..
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
The really sad part here is that, for the most part, devices released since Lenovo took over have been supported fairly well... Devices from prior to that are mostly forgotten. Still waiting to see if that's going to be consistent or not though.
[Moto G 2015 General] saransh arya:
Finally got January security patch
[Moto G 2015 General] Ojas25.8:
Maybe, G3 and G Turbo are having delays in android N as the moto developers are also facing bugs and things are in progress but not successful yet. Even the current custom ROMs have some or minor bugs and under road towards complete stable versions, which maybe they have to focus on to before providing it to consumers.
[Moto G 2015 General] HelpMeruth:
The devs who make official software are full-time paid professional developers. The devs who make custom Roms do this as a hobby, they never have started work on N for osprey and sadly will probably never start.
[Moto G 2015 General] amritmalviya:
I have too got January security patch!

What is its mean?? Why we get those patches?
[Moto G 2015 General] adityak1303:
Those are just security patches. Motorola is probably playing catch-up for not giving out updates in a long time.
[Moto G 2015 General] acejavelin:
Pretty that's exactly what they are doing... Lenovo gutted Motorola last year and got of 90+% of Moto employees, they are just catching up now.
[Moto G 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Google raided Motorola Mobility for the patents. Lenovo raided the human resource for the money being spent there. Neither seemed interested in maintaining one of the strongest and most enduring user-brand-hardware loyalties (which for me goes back to brick shaped walkie-talkies of the 1980s). May they choke on their filthy lucre while we press for updates. I can only dream of the former, but it costs us little to do the latter by singing the petition.