yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] gorilla p:
The pricing on these is out of touch with reality. Maybe its a part of the same pricing model they did on the Nexus 6 where all the fanboys and people who just dont know better pay full price, then 2 months later, its selling for $349.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] tohtorin:
I think these western phone manufacturers just prices them out of the market when chinese cheap and same spec phones are getting into the hands of masses. When people are getting poorer and poorer they just dont have money to purchase 750$ phones.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] lordred12345:
Wow that definitely does look quite shocking for the new pixel though you are forgetting some of the new features of the Pixel!
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] doitright:
The non-metal part of the back is there so that the antennas behind it will actually pick up RF. Doesn't make sense for a cell phone to not be able to get cell service!

Daydream is a gimmick and will ALWAYS be a gimmick.

The way forward for hardware, is always going to be better (smaller/faster/more capable) hardware.

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The 6P is a bit of an oddball unit, not really necessary, since it is a downgrade from the 6 before it (face it, 64bit doesn't provide any benefit to the workloads you get on a PHONE), and a very highly optimized and cool running 32bit chip can run circles around a run of the mill bone stock A57 reference toaster element.

Now the new kryo cores... those are optimized cool running 64bit chips in the same way as the 32bit krait450. Certainly not enough to be worth spending a pile of money on to replace a Nexus 6, but if you're in need of a phone, it is definitely the best and would be the best choice.

I'm hanging on to my Nexus 6, but I'm getting the pixel 5/128 for the wife, whose Nexus 5 is starting to flake out.

I think that one of the problems that people have is in understanding when to buy a phone and when not to. There are NO "revolutionary" new things to be had, the changes are incremental. So don't do stupid things like continually replacing your phone with whatever the "newest" one is, since there won't be a significant difference. But when you *need* a new phone, then pick the best nexus/pixel and buy it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] eliteconcept:
boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Fgarcor:
Those features are not there yet because there has to be something left for the coming generations of pixels in case there is no big development of software...
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
Sometimes you have to pay too play. The Pixel is going to be a great phone, with great development.

Get your $$$ out and hit the purchase button.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] NardVa:
The price coming in high provides wiggle room to lower the price over time and run specials at a later date. Wait about 6 months and they will knock $150 off. Wait 12 months and they will knock $300 off.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] alexeiz:
The initial price point miss creates a negative momentum, and later price adjustments cannot overcome it. Think Amazon Fire phone. Priced too high at the launch it created a perception of a worthless phone. Later it was sold for almost nothing and still nobody bought it.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] A$h!$h:
the price around Rs.20-30,000 between as per India is the best to pixel phone... Samsung galaxy s7 edge and iPhone 7 is much better
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] fitchpuckman:
same here. this is going to be my first amoled phone in a while, and was the one point of hesitancy (well, and the price) during my 13 minute decision period before pre-ordering :). but seriously, there's just something about the more "natural" look that LCDs tend to have...I hope this doesn't appear as oversaturated and cartoonish as amoleds typically looks. at least hope they build in some sort of screen tuning options. HTC's history of sick hardware and build quality was one of the biggest reasons i told myself i'd pick one of these up earlier this year before even knowing much about it, but they always had overly cool LCD panels. this was an interesting surprise, hope it works out. if nothing else, active notifications improve with the amoleds and maybe we get some resulting minor battery benefits.

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agreed. well, that and it was the Fire phone...that phone was overpriced, yes, but also vastly underequipped at both a software and hardware level when compared to the best phones at the time (SGS5, HTC M8, iphone 5s and impending 6, just to name a few). that phone was exclusive to AT&T, which is known for completely, embarassingly, and unapologetically ignoring any marketing effort for any device/manufacturer who doesn't fork over the top $$$. for years, you got nothing but apple, and then Samsung slowly began to intervene, but at that point, phone were starting to go off-contract anyway. the phone also had terrible battery life, a generation+ old screen, no SD slot, and really only a few potentially neat features that did nothing to appeal to its market. it was horribly executed and probably even more poorly timed. what the fire phone offered at the time is apples to oranges to what the Pixel offers (except for the fact that they cost the same exact amount 2.5yrs apart...)
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] lordred12345:
Maybe it gets people thinking that higher price means better product. I'm sure that's how some people buy iphones and macs
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] dpj52190:
I think devs would rather burn up a $200 nexus 5x than a $649 pixel. ( If things do go wrong)

Can't put a price on lost interest of consumers, besides this is buying time of the year, people buy gifts, if they keep 649 till december and decide to drop in january, no one will care to buy it in january.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] cc999:
Pricing

Lets face it the pricing is ridiculous. You can buy 2 Nexus 5X for the price of one Pixel.

I have a 5X and with Android 7.0 it's fantastic. Also lets see what happens with this

new half back glass design, I can see it now, scratches, cracks, shatters etc. I personally

hate the design on the back and on the front there is way too much real estate on the top

and bottom of the phone. Seems to be a waste of space.

The Pixel should be 399 - 449 at most. When it comes down to that range I will consider it,

until then they can keep it. I believe they will drop the price rather quickly, lets see.

CC
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] rosswaa:
I think the price is fair. You get what you pay for even though it'll be outdated in a few months

Same in any computing

I'm not sure whether to get the pixel though. Its the only decent 5" device I've seen. I loved the nexus 5 size but need something updated
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
It's worth what the buyer is willing to pay. Simple economics.

And based on the current amount of people who have reported pre-ordering the phone, I'd say Google got it right.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Fgarcor:
Well, I am in Europe, I preordered it, a pixel with 128, and the price that I have to pay in Euros converted is 950usd. Not the pixel XL, just the pixel. So after thinking about it twice I just canceled my order.

For me it is too much risk and money in a new line that upfront doesn't have any exclusive hardware specs. The same ones can be found in other couple of manufacturers for quite less price. I understand the software matching part, but that has to be shown yet.

I can wait a few months and see how it develops, and the competitors.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] quickstang:
I had to [emoji41]

But no really, it is too damn high. I was hoping this would be next year's Nexus so to speak. This is where for Xiaomi & Huggo, would be a good time to pull the trigger & hit the US market. You can get a Mi5s much cheaper than a pixel. My problem is that I'm on Verizon, so I can't just get any phone.

I paid $450 for my 6P and think that's fair. I'd go with $550 for the pixel XL, or even $600.

I'm not dishing out any more than that, & that's pushing it. Wait 6 months & the pixel will drop in price. There are manufacturers who see what Google did & are waiting to capture those of us who have no choice than to jump ship unless Google drops the price. I'm one of those.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
I can understand that. You are wise to wait a few months if you have the patience. The price will inevitably drop anyway. So waiting it out to weigh your options is a smart move.

In my case, I had just picked up an iPhone 7 because I wanted a solid phone with an excellent camera. Out the door that phone was $900 with Apple Care+. I was still within the return window when the Pixel was announced and put myself in a situation where I had to make the decision right away.

Do I keep the $900 iPhone or return it and spend about the same on the Pixel so I can stick with Android, which I absolutely love.

In the end I decided to stick with Android and make the swap. I suppose I could have returned the iPhone and waited a bit while I used my OnePlus 3 longer. But knowing how I am, I would end up buying a Pixel down the road anyway. So I just sped the process up.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] e19650826:
I don't even remember the last time I saw this much negativity around an Android device, let along a Google phone.

5X had a mixed reception and the price dropped very quickly, like $100 in 4 months. I'm projecting the Pixel price to drop even more than that by the end of the year. I might pay $600 for the 128G version, if the price drops to that by the end of the year. If that doesn't happen, I'll grab HTC 10 at sub $500. No way in hell am I paying $750 for a rebadged HTC10 with a recycled HTC A9 design.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] dpj52190:
The trend I've seen from past google when they hook up with carriers, their phone price is sky rocketed. Ex. nexus 6. Which ended up being sold for half that price in 6 months. They repeated same mistake that got nexus 6 in trouble.

premium phones doesn't have to cost premium as well. zte axon 7, oneplus 3. etc. here's a breakdown of manufacturing cost of some of the phones.

https://www.techwalls.com/production-costs-of-smartphones/
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] mario24601:
Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] NexusHeat:
I will buy it when the price goes down a bit because there aren't many other options for powerful 5.0 inch phones. There are a few, but they get crap updates and honestly, I am tired of installing custom ROMs so often to stay updated. I've been using a 5.5 inch phone for 8 months now, and I'm just tired of how big it is. Regular iPhone 7 is too small at 4.7 inches. Hopefully sales of the regular Pixel will be low enough to where Google's hand is forced to drop the price very quickly.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] ABSathe:
How about ZTE axon 7 ?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] mario24601:
I thought the 7 is 5.5 inches?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
I believe you are correct. There's the Axon 7 mini?
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] whistler-nl:
I'm currently owning a HTC 10 and when i looked at the specs of the Pixel i noticed it isn't too different from the 10. I thought the Snapdragon 821 would be clocked at a higher speed but it's the same as the 820 so im wondering what is different then.

If you get the Pixel it's more because of the software then anything other it seems. How long will it take before Google Assistant will appear on other phones (official or un-official).

Google Pixel 32Gb 759,95€ HTC 10 32Gb 659,95€
Li-Polymer 2770 mAh Li-Polymer 3000 mAh
Snapdragon 821 2,15 Ghz + 1,6 GHz Snapdragon 820 2.15 GHz + 1.6 GHz
AMOLED-FHD-Display 1920 x 1080 LCD 5 Display 1440 x 2560
SD-card slot: X SD-card Slot: MicroSD, max. 2 TB

The average Phone buyer will not include the Pixel as an option only because of Google Assistant and the VR thing. Plus you pay 100,00€ more for it compared to the HTC 10 which has simular specs.

Maybe i'll be surprised and the Pixel may sell better then i think now, you never know in the smartphone market.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
Looks like the post Monster ate my post. Worst comes to worst, it's a days pay thrown away. Not like tech junkies haven't wasted more on less.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] andyfoster:
Depends on your requirements/priorities - there are lots of 5" Android phones, but none that I would class as a pixel substitute.

For me, the alternative 5" Android would be the OnePlus X. Almost stock android, SD card, and much cheapness. I currently use one when my 6P is impractical.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] e19650826:
Really? HTC10 is not a comparable substitute? Pixel is literally a rebranded HTC10 in A9's design. Pixel only has a few advantages over HTC10, namely UFS2 storage and better camera, which don't justify the $200 price difference (yes comparing a 32G HTC10 to 128G Pixel because.. well SD card slot).

The SD821 in Pixel benchmarks marginally better than the SD820 in HTC10. Efficiency is another matter, but HTC10 does have a larger battery.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] ghettopops:
32:32 Pixel is cheaper. Except through today HTC has it for 549
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] e19650826:
That's like saying 32G Nexus 5X is $400 except you can get it from various places at $300. The logic of stating that the item is more expensive from certain retailers eludes me, especially when the one of the retailers with the lowest price is the manufacturer (as for the "limited time" thing, IIRC, HTC10 has been on sale for a long time now and I doubt that the price will really rise again).

Also 32G is easily expandable with 128G SD card to 160G, which is the reason I put 32G HTC10 up with 128G Pixel.

Quality 128G SD cards can be easily obtained at sub $30 level when on sale. Also, for me, I don't really need 128G or 160G of storage. 64~96G is more than sufficient, so I can get away with the SD cards that I already have.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] whistler-nl:
I took the prices from the German T-Mobile site because they dont sell the Pixel in The Netherlands yet. There the pixel is 100,00 euro more then the HTC 10.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] andyfoster:
One of my requirements is not have crappy software that gets in the way of what I want to do. That counts HTC phones out.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] rosswaa:
Do people think that they don't update the chips used? 4gb of ram isn't the same as 4gb of slower ram. Look at price difference on PC components you want the faster stuff then you pay for it.

If you can't afford it quit whining and buy the cheaper phones and be happy
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] e19650826:
Your info is as outdated as it gets. HTC10's OS is pretty much as close to vanilla OS as it gets for an OEM. It comes with mostly stock android apps with essentially no bloatware. Research first before you count anything out.

Only that the components in Pixel are not that much faster than any other 6 months old flagship phones. In fact, it benchmarks much lower (20%) than Exynos S7 and maybe 5% better than SD820 S7. You really can't talk up Pixel's hardware because the numbers just aren't there. The only thing Pixel has an advantage (in terms of performance and user experience) is the vanilla os/software optimization and support.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] andyfoster:
I bought the HTC One M9 and the software sucked. That's as much research as I'm prepared to do.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] htcdroid03:
Local Verizon store has $200 trade in promo towards a pixel. Traded in a lg g3 I had laying around. $450 for the 5" didn't seem to bad
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Dri94:
I don't get why people are complaining over the price. It's priced the same as all the high end phones. They forget the Pixel is a HIGH end phone. Not the normal Nexus
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] Fgarcor:
Well this is just my opinion, but I think in terms of hardware it is behind other premium phones. No waterproof or double camera (iPhone 7, 7 plus, Huawei), design nothing fancy with huge bezels(S7 edge). Those are factors that make a difference and for me the premium price is more a tag than a price. I am convinced though that with subsequent versions they will be awesome.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] piperx:
My opinion

Buy it, or don't

Every phone has its flaws

I don't swim or shower with my phone, hell I don't p*ss or sh*t with it either.

I have been in the pouring rain with it, multiple times, no problems as of yet, maybe lucky, but it still works.

SD card, any OEM that has one has to pay Microsoft a licence fee, Google won't do that, and I personally don't give a sh*t.

I use a case, don't care what it looks like, as long as it works the way I want it to work.

I am very happy with my pixel, best phone I ever owned.
[Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion] clockcycle:
You can not compare "meh" vs flagship specs.

Its a top teir phone, compare it to the best samsung and apple have to offer. Then compare the prices. Are those phones overpriced? You bet they are. You willing to dish out money for those? Then just like that I'm willing to put the same on Google's best..

There is still NO other phone out, even at this time a month later, with an 821..

It's water resistant, all that matters,, no one gave two ships about water proof and z3 has had it long ago, and it touted taking pics underwater.

Sd cards have always caused problems on every phone that has had one.

Double camera gimmicks dont do ditsquat, all it is is fluff.

Ufs ram people, thats not the same as the slow stuff in previous devices..

If your current phone is only 6m-1y old, dont compare, as its not much more or better. Might as well hold on to it forr another 6m-1y..

6p is was meant to be top of the line and hold its own for a long time, so it does just that. The 5x was your budget nexus.. Its what it was and still is, budget nexus that you buy for your gf or wife.. Like the smaller crappy harley, so they dont feel bad, so you dont feel bad, for having the real thing..
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] joe2k01:
HELLO EVERYONE!​

​

I have ported Resurrection Remix for the UMI SUPER :victory:​

I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please do some research if you have any concerns about features included in the products you find here before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you. Your warranty will be void if you tamper with any part of your device / software.

BETA V1:

WORKING

:

Camera(also HDR)

Bluetooth

WiFi

Vibration

Flashlight

Rotation

Fingerprint Scanner

Notifications LED

FM Radio

Basically everything besides bugs.

Tethering and GPS not tested

Known Bugs

:

Volume not adjustable in calls

Credits:

@primo3 for his device and vendor tree

For other infos see 2nd post :good:

XDA:DevDB Information

ResurrectionRemix for UMI SUPER, ROM for all devices (see above for details)

Contributors

joe2k01

ROM OS Version: 6.0.x Marshmallow

ROM Firmware Required: TWRP, no others requirements

Based On: Resurrection Remix

Version Information

Status: Beta

Current Beta Version: 1.0

Beta Release Date: 2016-10-04

Created 2016-10-04

Last Updated 2016-10-04
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] joe2k01:
Reserved

Download links

:

Beta 1: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2n710fxn_CpYk9RaE1mcFk3ZlU/view?usp=sharing

Credits: [MENTION=2405665]primo3[/MENTION] for his device and vendor tree

This build doesn't include 09/23 camera libs, I'm working on it.

It's built from source (a part from the kernel, no source released), and the device tree is forked from the P9000 but it's not the same.
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] joe2k01:
Reserved
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Flounderist:
First! :D
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Brightlenny:
Good job using RR on my OP3 and love it. Will definitely install this on my wife's super.

Keep up the good work:svetius:
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] guano30:
HI Mate!

Is the left Hardware Button working with that ROM?
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Bryandu13:
Great ! Can somebody give me Antutu or/and Geekbench score on this ROM ?

Thanks you
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] captivated1971:
Oooo downloafing now! Gna flash soon

---------- Post added 5th October 2016 at 12:05 AM ---------- Previous post was 4th October 2016 at 11:06 PM ----------

Doesn't like my version of gapps any suggestions? I believe I may be running pico or full
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] danixx77:
Wow good news!

Can you post a screenshoots? what's release firmware, libs and kernel you used to port this rom?
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Dalidah:
Great! Does RR for Super support DTTW?

Thanx and keep up the good work!
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] zipoman:
Great!!!!

Enviado desde mi UMI_SUPER mediante Tapatalk
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] washoq:
Excellent. I will give it a try.

[MENTION=7137962]joe2k01[/MENTION]

Does this build include libs from the latest update to stock ROM (from 23.09)?
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] guano30:
Can we have some more Information here please?

Or is it just another P9000 Port?
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] joe2k01:
Added some info, currently working on 09/23 camera
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] guano30:
Thank you for your Information!

Can you also please answer if the left Knob is working in that ROM? Is it configurable like in Stock ROM ?
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] captivated1971:
Everything working pretty smooth! I dirtyflashed over umisuper 9/23 ROM last night and had abunch of fc"s then restored a 9/23 backup and factory reset wiped. Then clean flashed over 9/23 all is working smooth . although had to reinstall gapps pico. But its functioning superb! We need our own forum lol!
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] captivated1971:
This from antutu benchmark.
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] icedzed:
just downloaded, let's try it! do i need gapps?

answer by myself: yes, gonna try with micro from opengapps, arm64
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] guano30:
Can you Guys answer my Question?

Is the left Knob usable in that Image?

So 47k Antutu is no improvement to the Stock ROM

EDIT:

Here is mine with latest UMI ROM :angel:
[UMi Super ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Bjarnie:
How's battery life with this ROM?