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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Thanks for the reply. What you write makes sense. :highfive:

I have had two, the pre-order phase rendition and the replacement. They are on sale here but are sold out in every outlet that sells Samsung! Its a very popular mobile.

I have had no problems with either of my Note 7's but within 12 hours of the recall mine was back at the shop. I then waited for the replacement. Unless Samsung categorically state the Note 7 has a problem and they make an official recall I would keep mine and be happy to do so. IF Samsung do recall the Note 7 again I will, of course, comply.

I must confess even I am getting tired of this bloody saga over a mobile phone. :(

My only major problem would be what the heck to replace it with? That's a real headache as the Note 7 is unique!

I am running away with myself, lets see what the investigation finds. I sincerely hope for the best. For all of us.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chriskwarren:
That might be sig-worthy.

I'm seeing some wicked price drops/discounts for the Note 7 available to me now ($0 on a 2 year contract in my employee corp plan...they were asking $529 just a few weeks ago). S7 marked down hard too.

With more stories like this, the resale value on these things are going to be horrible.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] cordell12:
Wait for the movie "Notes on a Plane" thinking Nichols Cage for this version tho :eek:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] whoofit:
Probably to prove it was a safe phone at the gate if required.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, I strongly disagree with the majority you write. The reason media these past decades has focused on bad news is it sells, it what the majority want to read, see and hear. I have not purchased a news paper in 20 years. I refuse to watch ANY so called news on the TV. WHY? Because its out of balance with life. Good things do happen, people are doing good things, there are companies that look after customers BUT who wants to read that these days?

Its simple. Bad news sells.

Professional journalism went out the window with share holders wanting more and more profit and as I wrote, only bad news and gossip sells.

This incident in question has been reported all around the globe at lightening speed and that's fine BUT its NOT been reported factually nor professionally. I have read several differing accounts ranging from the sub-floor of the aircraft was damaged and the carpet burned to the carpet was slightly marked. I have also read that a client on board AFTER the full evacuation was allowed back on board to collect some personal items! Absolute garbage.

What this sort of totally irresponsible reporting does is whip up knee jerk reactions to an unknown situation. Already Samsung stocks have dipped again and this because of improper 'investigative journalism' ? Its a sad world when we believe what we read in these tabloids. Its what sells news though so we are now stuck with it. Whatever the outcome Samsung has already lost millions over this one incident yet we don't know the facts yet? Bloody absurd.

Journalism used to be an honorable profession. Those days are long gone. That's out fault as we push for bad news.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] whoofit:
This is an embarrassing time for Samsung. They got the Ethan Hunt version mixed in with the General Population ones. Development started way back with Maxwell Smart's shoe phone. Don't expect them to do a phone number release on this phone. The guy secretly worked for MI5. His cover was a security camera specialist...HA!

I know because I am Jesus.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] richie_b:
Man I owe you a beer, I totally agree with you, I used to be glued to the major new networks..end result anxiety issues, now I have removed it all ..twitter...FB..etc everything that blast u with crap.....they make it seem like nothing good is happening in the world, I dont wanna watch listen or read no news .........

Im on my 3 rd note 7 ..the replacement had a dead pixel they happily took it back ...never had a issue with the any of them otherwise... love my note not letting it go ...and if im forced to by the Gov.......id rather use a old nokia 3310 than any Iphone........js.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Novarider:
If there is another recall I'll be done with the note 7 but what would I replace it with? I don't want an s7 edge and the pixel is only on Verizon.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Señor Sjon:
Samsung deemed Europe not worthy of the Note 5 and the Note 4 went out of stores the day after the Note7 had its paper launch in New York in August. So I'm still holding on to my Note 3. Almost 3 years old now, it still easily manages a day (2 if I leave it be) on his weary original battery.

I'm on the verge of letting the phone still have another year. There is no substitute on the market. 5,5" seems the flavor of the day for most phones and no one has a stylus. I hoped for a 6" Note with flat screen. to be able to use the pen more. I do know the Note 7 isn't as rugged as the N3 or N4 due to the glass design. I had a S4 that handled like a wet bar of soap and the scratchy N7 has the same handling I presume.

So I feel the pain. With what to replace it with?!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
I think I will go for the lenovo 6.4 inch smartphone if the note 7 is recalled again.

http://indianexpress.com/article/te...gle-tango-smartphone-november-launch-3067956/
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
Considering I fly a lot, I'm not sure I can get the Note 7.Ive cancelled my pre order today, it's just not worth the hassle. There's literally no other phone like it though which is so, so annoying. Perhaps the V20 but it's not even going on sale in the UK, the Pixel is absolutely overpriced rubbish. Damn this battery nonsense!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] teegunn:
The big companies already control almost all of the news though. There are a very few companies/people that control almost all of the major news outlets. Now are those companies/people slanted against Samsung for some reason? Who knows. Here in the US there has been an obvious pro-Apple slant from the media, big and small, since the iPhone came out. We can debate why, but that is the case. I do think Apple is the best US company at using behind the scenes methods for getting stories out that favor them.

But back on the news cycles - smaller companies along with bigger outlets need attention. This has become a story they can jump on for attention. Why weren't Apple phones that have lithium battery problems in the past (and even the new iPhone) given the same attention via media stories? I don't know. That is why earlier in the thread I was looking for actual information on the percentage, or actual numbers/stats, of the N7 that has had battery issues compared to other smartphones. How many apple smartphones have had lithium batteries overheat? We know there have been a good number of them over the years, but those stories didn't draw the OMG it's a bomb(!) type of attention that the N7 has. Unless we have accurate stats of the difference (if there is any) in the scope of the problem with the N7 versus other similar devices then it is all speculation. If the N7 truly is significantly more likely (even though so far the actual percentage of N7's that have had a problem is extremely small compared to how many are being used by consumers) to have a battery go bad like this, then Samsung needs to find out why. Is it because the battery is packed too close to the CPU? Is it just a problem with the manufacturing of the battery itself? We need to know IF there is a significantly more serious problem with the N7 and if so, what the reason for that is. We don't need more OMG it's a bomb(!) stories, we need articles that give us accurate data.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chillsen:
The Note line will be tossed out and will have a brand new name. From an advertising point of view, there's too much brand recall after something like this.

Persuasion + Recall = Consumer's decision to buy.

"Note 8 is coming out? Remember the Note 7 exploded? Oh hell no, I ain't buying this!"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
To that note (note pun intended), if this latest incident is confirmed I wouldnt be surprised to see them recall all units without replacement of a "note 7". The pressure from regulars in the US is going to be immense at this point coupled with the exploding samsung washing machines that hit the press this week. The CPSC, FAA, Media will finish this thing off once and forever.

Assuming for a second they don't recall these again... Thoughts for those of use who own the device.... Is owning this device going to be worth the price paid knowing we will be treated like pariahs at airports and public places for the rest of the time we own them? What do you think this will do to the resale price of our devices? I mean I like this phone a lot.. but for the premium price paid it's going to be a heckuva depreciation in the first month of ownership.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] demon510:
I asked my wife the same thing. The AP article even states he went out and bought an iPhone 7 to replace it. Kind of odd that he was able to provide a picture of the box immediately after the incident and that he was traveling away from home?

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Not sure what kind of discharge rate a note 7 has but it could be possible if something shorted out the usb c plug.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] JaguarXT:
From what I see from the Verge is that this is an AT&T replacement "safe" Note 7 that came within an AT&T special box that was manufactured in Korea. The manufactured in Korea raised a flag with me since the Note 7s that had the battery issues were manufactured in Korea. The special AT&T box was odd to me since all other carriers went with the stock Note 7 box, which got me to look at the label closer. The label was ordered differently from the stock Note 7 box labels and was labeled "Made in Korea".

Are AT&T customers unlucky in getting Note 7s that were made in Korea all because AT&T wanted a special box?

Seems that the replacement Note 7s that were made in China are showing that they are truly safe. While the replacement Note 7s that were made in Korea are still questionable.

PS - I know we need to see the results from Samsung after they look at the device. There are few cases that users are causing issues like a case with a lady in China that put an unknown heat source onto the Note 7 case with Note 7 within the case and caused the device's battery to smoke and burn. You can tell from that case that the user put a heat source on the case (looks like a lit lighter burn). So yes we will have to wait for the results. Still, another Note 7 that was "made in Korea" had battery burn issues.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
Quite possible his wife provided the pictures. Or his flight was cancelled and he never travelled... Also, they do sell phones in the airport through various vendors.

I would bet good money that if this happened to the regular joe after going through the recall you would find open arms at apple.

So far, the shoe fits. Pictures match the previous failures.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
I think his "Iphone" statement was just a flippant remark. Worryingly this all seems to check out, nothing seems fake or looks fake. If the CPSC see this as a fault I can see the Note 7 being completely withdrawn and units being recalled without being given out again. It is also worrying the other reports from China, it makes you think these may have been genuine.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the most sane article I've read about yesterday's incident. An excerpt.

"I have been monitoring some claims in China of the...Note7 with the 'good' battery catching fire, but not a single one of these incidents has been traced back to Samsung," said Patrick Moorhead, an analyst at Moor Insights & Strategy. "So, for right now, we all need complete information before jumping to any conclusions. If it is verified that the phone is, in fact, a replacement phone, Samsung will have some major problems on its hands."​

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...t-corners-in-shipping-note7-replacements.html
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
Flippant.... lol.. he was holding his new iphone in the interview i saw. He took his wallet and voted. Honestly, I would probably be just as goofy as him on TV had my phone popped on an airplane forcing all those people to change plans. He probably spent a couple hours feeling like the man on the moon there with all the stares from the other passengers and airport people.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] notefreak:
Just... no to another recall. No other company would do it. I am not giving up my phone again just like that. So stop with another recall crap.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
Fair enough, it's all speculation at this point to be honest. Noone know what caused the "fire plane" (except maybe Samsung and the CPSC).
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] teegunn:
There is no other phone that really comes close to what the N7 is overall. All the other phones have smaller displays and far bigger bodies and way more bezel. The new pixel for example looks like something from 4 years ago in size and build IMHO. The larger iPhone is a hog - tons of bezel. Nothing offers the build and sleekness along with the S Pen that the N7 does. If there were other options that were as good overall then that is one thing, but there aren't. I'm not switching unless they make me. I am on a new N7, my old one being sent back to Samsung. The transfer process was a PITA as it always is to get everything set up the same. I think I spent a solid 8 hours getting the phone set up like my old N7. And I transferred all my texts, which all take a while to get indexed properly. I am not doing this process again. My original N7 was flawless honestly, it had great battery life and never got hot. I suppose I don't have any way of really "knowing" it didn't have a bad battery, but when I originally put the IMEI into the Samsung check tool when they first came out with it my phone came up as one without a bad battery issue. A week later Samsung decided that ALL N7's sold before Sept 15th were to be recalled, so I had no choice. In any case, they will have to pry my N7 out of my hands as it is far and away the best phone available and the best phone I have ever owned.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
Hopefully it doesn't come to that.. but the jury is back out. As to the text thing.. This app works great and takes minutes.. Just copy the backup folder over to new phone or make it save backups to your SD card. Free too.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] lockieio:
You give me a link from totaly different case, not the one from this accident.

Here is only on picture from the front , not back.

Malo se bockas ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] CerveCesar:
I shared the article and the video was from a Chinese man who recorded his phone catching fire. I don't think anyone has shared on social media the southwest flight fire pictures yet
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Compusmurf:
Until the investigation is completed by Fire department at the location, FAA accident investigators because it was on an aircraft, the CPSC which are also going to want to confirm it and Samsung themselves, we won't know if the phone was previously damaged, if it really WAS one of the new batch, or if there's a further problem.

I will not be worrying about it. Samsung has done the right thing once already and if it's deemed a further problem, I have no doubt it will be handled.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] demon510:
I hope that is not the case, my Verizon Note 7 says made in Korea. Also I have two labels stacked on my box. One with a label with the black square over another with a black square.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
The funny thing is the burnt phone looks like a black phone but the box that he show that has the black Square says silver titanium. I don't know if that makes a difference but it looks black phone to me but it's a silver titanium in a box.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
The phone on the floor in the aisle of the Southwest jet is definitely black. Interesting catch about the box saying Silver Titanium. Your post also made me think. OK, so a Note7 episode supposedly caused "pops and smoke" severe enough to evacuate a plane at the gate yet there's a crystal clear HD still photo of the offending Note7 after the incident sitting alone in the middle of the aisle. From the angle the photo was taken it's from a port side aisle seat. Who took the picture and how did the person who submitted that photo and the photo of the purported "safe" box get it to the media outlets so quickly after event occurred? God help the person who made this claim if his "safe" silver Note7 is in its box while he traveled with a recalled black Note7 causing all the harm it did and the PR nightmare it created for Samsung.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ert69:
IMO this is definitely a hoax. When I read the article it made me wanna cancel my preorder. Then I read this thread and all makes sense.

Apple is behind it.

Explosions only happen in the US and China.

The box says silver phone and on the pic theres black.

Timing.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] colliderz:
Where does it say Silver on the box? It says black here.[IMG="Black or silver"]https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/f_RxRxunaej1BGvGX7zVVkrxips=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7225775/IMG_0001blurs-marked.0.jpg[/IMG]
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] nomailx:
Bah, for foreigners, you FEDS all look the same!

xD

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I checked that Link.

The guy's reaction is normal. It's a reaction you have when suddenly you get all media attention toward you. In fact, watching the guy's reaction cleared all speculations about conspiracy theories. He's excited to make the news and share is astonishment.

Also a phone that burns may shock you for like 5 minutes and that's it. No one got hurt, and it's all fine. It's just a phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Sheon849:
I just dropped 900$ on mine today at best buy. I hope it's ok this is the best phone I have owned I would hate to go back to iPhone 7.

It does make me a little nervous now tho.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] nomailx:
Dude,

An exploded Note 7 still beats any iPhone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dottat:
not if it prevents you from making your flight or even boarding....
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] coltrix:
F Samsung and VZW

here's my dilema i got 2 note 7s through Verizon they REFUSE to replace my 2 phones due to a past due bill.....i have been with vzw for 5 years now always paid the bill on time now there is a safety recall they don't want to help .....sorry i am not paying my bill till this is replaced. i even called Samsung the first guy i talked to said it shouldn't matter if your bill is past due or not its a safety recall he said he will get in contact with vzw and email me a week later....now its been two weeks later still no response called today said there is nothing i can do contact vzw i went off. she ultimately hung up on me so i called back and said we only replace phone that were bought straight out cash i told them we'll ill just keep my phones and hope they don't explode

lesson learned

do not buy Samsung cust svc is **** they dont care about their customers...

do not use Verizon their over priced and dont care about their customers safety

going with the google pixel next
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
It's a black note 7 box?!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gCloud:
Where did silver come from? It is black
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
I was going off of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=rLPE0kF8Mlc
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] JaguarXT:
Now that you said that your Verizon Note 7 is made from Korea I am thankful I am with T-Mobile. Though both AT&T and Verizon has better coverage in my area. Still T-Mobile has good coverage in my area and consistently get the china version of Note 7 With no problems.

Yours having a label on top of another label is interesting. Mine replacement has only one label and was completing packaged like new. Makes you wonder if they just replaced the battery and repackaged/resealed Korea made Note 7s. If that is the case then if someone that is tired can easily replace the old battery back into the Note 7 device and not even know what they did (especially if they rushed the manufacturing).
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fenderguy05:
I'm not ready to ditch the Note 7 until we get more details. I was a little leary of the article at first, and when I headed over here to see what others were saying I feel more confident it was a one off situation.

No charring of the carpet in the photo?

Was it just me or do his pants look barely damaged? If it had been an explosion like we saw before the recall, I think his pocket would have had more substantial damage.

I have a feeling the battery failed but as many Lithium batteries do on occasion. And that's the key phrase: on occasion. All batteries have a danger of this happening, and a small percentage actually happen. I'm waiting to hear more about what actually caused this, and if it's recall worthy all over again.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he's dropped it in the past, or bent it while sitting down in the plane causing the meltdown.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] st3rv:
The photo of the "recalled box" is intriguing, as Samsung doesn't normally write the color of the phone as just "black" or silver but "Onyx Black", "Silver Titanium", etc...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] JaguarXT:
The label on my box shows "BLK" to show that it is Black. But it is a label from the China made Note 7. And on the side of box has "Black Onyx" imprinted onto the box
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
The more I read about this incident the LESS I understand what has happened. Different boxes have been shown one with a black onyx the other silver? This scenario just seems to go on and on.

The point I cannot fathom out is why there is no sign of a fire extinguisher being used? Surly we should see white powder all over the device and surrounding floor? All this is doing is damaging Samsung. That's a shame as this is a superb mobile phone.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Aimara:
lol cnet is biased review , see their other videos , seem like a competitor paid them tons of money
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mav42:
I received my new replacement Telstra Note 7 last week and have had no issues, although I have noticed heat spikes up to 80c on the CPU under load (cpu temp app) battery temp dosn't go over 30c. My Telstra Note 7 was made in Vietnam (Phone info Samsung app) Box has the lil black square and a sticker with a blue "S"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bayniner:
Ive had my note since it was released and love it, ive had no issues what so ever, ive traveled with it 6 hour flight and no issues. I havent swapped it out for the new version because freaking target still doesnt have any yet. Now im not sure if i should trade it in or keep the original one
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
Oh dear, Sprint are offering a phone exchange for already replaced Note 7s because of the plane fire. This is the beginning of the end for the N7... So sad...

http://m.androidcentral.com/sprint-...tm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bayniner:
Unfortunately i think it is indeed the end of the note, i have a friend who works for tmobile who says they recieved a memo saying to stop all exchanges of note 7s and also to stop selling new note 7s
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] B3501:
Urghh game over I think :(
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] TranceChaos:
Ehh.. even though my Note 7 has been working perfectly fine, think I'm just gonna return it tomorrow and go back to my Note 5. The resale value will probably go way down too. :(
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fortesquieu:
That sucks lol. I was about to buy an Note 7 tomorrow.