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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
It's not the car. The car can connect perfectly with the 6 other phones I have laying around the house... it's a problem with the Tilt/Kaiser.

The car connects perfectly with my Tytn without any of the above mentioned problems. Others are having the same issues too, and only with this phone, so we can certainly rule out the "it's the car!" idea...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Comatose:
Just to chime in -- I have a 2008 G37 here, and with my tilt (running v3 Dutty rom) I have no issues with the handsfree (clarity or being able to answer via the steering wheel handsfree btn).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
can you give me a little more details about your car and the phone settings/rom/radio you're using?

1. Does your G37 have a nav?

2. What version of Dutty's are you using? I know you said v3, but I know he's got several out there... a 6.0, 6.1 version, with different things installed on each one.

3. Lastly, which radio rom are you using?

Thanks a lot in advance. It makes me wonder whether Infiniti used different programming for the Bluetooth module, like they did with the voice commands (some people have voice commands for temperature, like "temperature, 70 degrees" and some don't). Which group are you in?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pbratton:
I have a 2008 Nissan Rogue, my Tilt has connected with it flawlessly. As has my wifey's Pearl.

My Tilit is still running the factory load.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
Ok, so I guess the problem is limited. Can everyone post what vehicle they have generally (with or without nav) and what version rom they're using? This way we can narrow the cars that work, don't work...

Thanks for everyone's input!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fgrump123:
2008 G35 w/ nav. It pairs fine, volume is significantly lower than with the RAZR. Anyone test with 6.1 yet? Rumor is that bluetooth volume is better and seems to connect faster. I plan on trying 6.1 after the cooks have a few weeks of maturing their dishes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] surf4life:
2008 G35 w Nav. Pairs and works fine to date. Not great sound quality but no complaints from callers. ROM Q-Mobile (latest).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hakushox:
2008 M35 fully loaded with the Ultimate package.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Comatose:
1. No Nav, just premium

2. Its Dutty v3 final (wm6.0)

3. Radio 1.27.12.11 (I believe the stock at&t one.. I never upgraded this)

Yeah I heard about the updates causing the loss of voice commands, but without NAV I already lack alot of the cooler voice-command features you have.. I picked my car up in October, so not sure if it went thru any changes or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mick2021:
My Tilt does not work my 07 G35S. :mad:

It's fully loaded with navigation.

Tilt has 1.27.12.11 radio with Dutty V4.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
Hmmm, I wonder whether there is any difference between the nav/no nav models as far as programming of the bluetooth module... I really have to go to the dealer and try to connect a Tilt with one of their demos to see whether it's doing the same thing.

I picked my car up in the beginning of September, with nav, premium, sport, tech and spoiler.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] prmulligan:
G35X w/ Nav doesn't work

Doesn't work (all the listed problems) in an 07 G35X w/ Nav....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mike Philippens:
I had problems with my Nokia ck-15W carkit and since I installed the Sleuth WM6.1 rom with radio 1.64.08.21 and the JetWare BT Stack it's working like never before. It's worth a try.

Weirdest thing is that JetWare=Microsoft...why don't they stick it in the regular WM distro's?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
even with a 6.1 rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ragpaoa:
2008 Pathfinder

Time for me to chime in:

I am experiencing the same problems.

2008 Nissan Pathfinder LE With Nav

Stock AT&T Tilt radio 1.27.12.11 - didn't work

Updated to Dutty's v4 - didn't work

Tried Dutty's WM 6.1 beta - no go

Tried Sleuth's v3.0 with updated BT stack and WM 6.1 - same

Tried the Tilt with all the above on my wife's 2006 Lexus - Works very well

Tried my wife's LG on the Pathfinder - works well

So, it seems that the problem is with the the Tilt-Nissan pair with the newer Nav. I'm really upset since I dropped Verizon so I can have GSM because I travel out the of country often.

Here is a thought: The Tilt is BT ver 2.0. All the phones that work with my Parhy is BT 1.2.

Can someone with a BT ver 2.0 try to connect and see if it works on theirs.

Count me in to finding a solution for this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
If you're implying that it's the bluetooth 2.0 that's the problem, I'm pretty sure the Hermes/Tytn that I'm connecting through right now is 2.0 and I have no problems whatsoever...

so to me at least, it means that the car has no problems connecting to 1.2 or 2.0 per se, but instead it's the implementation of those standards by the phone manufacturer.... What we may also consider is that the Kaiser implements bluetooth 2.0+EDR... I dont think the Hermes/Tytn has EDR.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] prmulligan:
how do I tell what rom I'm using. I'm using the ATT OEM rom I'm sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
should be able to find it in the "about" or "device information" screen under settings...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jschaff:
I have a 2008 G37S. I have paired a Cingular 8125 for four months without ANY problems. I got the ATT 8925, and its been nothing but problems getting the signal to work. It is NOT the car that is the problem.

I did the recent HTC ROM upgrade that was supposed to improve Bluetooth and it didn't help.

I suspect that the stereo bluetooth signal is being sent out to a not stereo bluetooth receiver in the car. If someone knows where the registry fix is located to turn off the stereo back to mono, I bet this will be the fix for now.

Anyone know? Or any other ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bradwcamp:
YEP!!

My wizzard worked just fine with the car also, it's on the tytn II that is giving me issues. Let me know if you find that REG key i would love to give that a try!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Just to add to this thread....I have a 2008 Nissan Altima with the built-in bluetooth handsfree system and my HTC-branded Tytn-II with stock ROM pairs fine with the car. Audio is also excellent. I do note that I get static when my Tytn-II's call volume is turned down to low...but as long as the call volume is set to max on the Tytn-II the audio on my Nissan Ultima is great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
Anyone have any luck with the latest 6.1 roms? Seems like they're coming out with something new every other week...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bradwcamp:
have not tried the 6.1 ROM yet, if anyone has confirmed they are having luck with these please chime in...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robert99b:
'07 G35S w/Nav purchased in Jan'07. Same poor incoming sound quality and no outgoing sound

Kaiser (AT&T 8925 Tilt)

ROM ver: Touch v6.1 WWE <-- Dutty's official WM6.1 - 5.2.19716_UC

ROM date: 2/19/08

Radio version: 1.64.08.21

Protocol version: 25.74.40.02W

:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] techceptional:
Not sure if entirely related but I've got a 350Z and I'm in the UK. If anything the volume has increased since upgrading to Dutty's 6.1, I'm also using Kaisertweak. Never ever had a bluetooth dropping issue.

Other than that it works brilliantly.

BTW, my car has a bluetooth adaptor which you plug into a slot which can hold a phone cradle - is this the same setup for the Infiniti / US version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
no. for us everything is built in. There's no cradle.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] prmulligan:
ROM

CE OS 5.2.1620

Is that it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
I have not tried it, so I cannot vouch whether it works or not, but at least there is a "temporary" solution for someone...

I can honestly say that I would put up with this "fix" at this point if I already had the Tilt, but since I took it back and I am using the Tytn, I cannot see myself going back out to get the Tilt just to have to put up with this workaround. I'll just stick with the Tytn for now... with a very clean rom, minimal programs that I run, it is fast enough to be very usable... I'll wait for the Tytn III
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] louis78:
bbonacci, you speak about a Nissan's site where the 8925 is “being tested”. Could give the URL ?

Thanks and this fix works !

I do like you: answer with the kit, send the call to phone only then back to the kit.

I have a Nissan Xtrail 2008 with Nav/Bluetooth and a TYTN II.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bbonacci:
The URL is www.nissanusa.com/blutooth but you missed what I said. NOW it doesn't list the 8925 as "being tested" anymore. It did for a long time, but they removed it. They didn't move it anywhere (like to a list that says "doesn't work" which would be correct) they just removed it like it doesn't exist.

Don't even bother going to the site. There is NO HELP there. Just a list of phones that work or are being tested. If you send an e-mail, they will give you a number to call. When I called they said it was "being tested" which I saw already on the internet. It might be interesting to call now that they took it off the list, but I bet anything that the answer will not make anyone happy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ragpaoa:
bbonacci,

Thanks for the find. It works for me. I have a 2008 Pathfinder which I bought in Oct 07 and was experiencing the same problems with bad connection and no one can hear me on the other end. I tried most cooked 6.0 and 6.1 ROMs along with all the Bluetooth settings from the Advance Config floating around with no luck. I still think the problem is more HTC than the Nissan.

I hope this gets fix soon, since this is a kludge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MorKaiser:
Use this cab, connect your phone, and then check only the handsfree option in your BT settings on your device. if you like it and it works for you, can buy the patch or find a crack. ( I don't endorse cracked software :rolleyes:)

I used it with my AvicD3 Multimedia system in my car and it works perfectly..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bbonacci:
Thanks for the suggestion, but this patch has already been tried for the specific situation that this thread addresses to, which is Windows Mobile 6 phones and the built-in Nissan/Infiniti Bluetooth in cars that have the navigation system. I am not sure of the years, but I think it is only 2007 and 2008s.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
2007 Nissan Altima without NAV. Tytn-II has ROM 1.83.631.4 WWE with Radio version 1.27.15.32.

Performance:

- Pairs fine

- Call quality is fine (though a bit quiet)

- Outgoing calls work

- Incomming calls can be answered immediately over Nissan handsfree by answering on the Tytn-II

- Incomming calls that are answered via the steering wheel button results in a 5 second or so delay. The call is initially answered on the Tytn-II but then it is transferred to the Nissan handsfree. During this time the other party can not hear me.

- Ocassionally when I turn on the engine and the handsfree system connects to my Tytn-II it immediately displays "In Call" even though there is no call in progress. Cycling the bluetooth on/off on the car seems to fix this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
... it's a "vehicle with navigation" problem. Everyone else seems more or less unaffected.

just out of curiosity, has anyone tried the new TNT.19202 Series? It's got a new BT i think...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jschaff:
I have an 08 G37S with nav. ATT tilt phone. I answer the phone to the headset and while I am talking I press the PHONE button on the nav and it switches to the BT speaker phone. This works fine, but as everyone says, why can't it work the right way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bradwcamp:
^same here

08 G37s w/NAV HTC TYTN II with all the same issues described.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
Ha... I feel all of us should be wearing "I'm with stupid" T-shirts...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ryu34:
I think this may be a wider spread issue.

I have a 2007 G35X (purchased in April) and have the same / similar issue.

My phone is not a Kaiser, but a Vox. My Faraday worked great.

One difference is that the Faraday was mono and the Vox is stereo BT.

Did anyone find an answer on how to change that mode?

I tried oem rom and cooked 6.1 rom, I also have tried jetware, which allows me to sync my phonebook, but I still can't hear anything when making a call.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Scrog:
2008 g35 journey with nav. works okay. used jetware to synce phonebook. then had issues with ringer and phone going silent. uninstalled jetware and can make otgoing calls and answer incoming calls fine. i'll check versions in am
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] online142154:
I have a 2008 Nissian Coupe with Nav and have experienced the same "fuzzy" sound quality. The "fix" of sending the call to the handset and back to the car works but there has got to be a better way.

I am using the Windows Vista Rom. Previously I had a Blackjack and it worked great as well as my wifes phone.. It has to be something in the BT stack
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] marsb007:
The bluetooth on this phone is absolute crap!!! I don't know who to even blame... HTC or Microsoft... or both!

Regardless, out of all the time that I've been active on this forum, this is one of those problems that I don't think will see a solution... I was hoping a new BT stack would be implemented with the 6.1 roms, but no such luck. If you want the BT to work with your car, I'm afraid we may have to wait for the updated future model (Tytn III).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] louis78:
Hello all

Has somebody tried the new HTC Windows 6.1 update ?

Seems that this update brings new bluetooth features ! If it solves our problem, it will be a miracle ;-)

This update is available on HTC e-club for HTC branded Kaiser. Mine is from Orange...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
I think it is a mixture of everyone doing their own thing. Infiniti/Nissan, Microsoft and of course HTC. Not caring if it all works together.

www.infiniti.com/bluetooth/faq.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] banman:
I hate you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xxx_mosh:
yeah i dono maybe because it a nissan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bradwcamp:
I have the new update on my Kaiser and still the same issue with the G37. It's just flat out deperessing!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] louis78:
Thanks for the answer, too sad :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] louis78:
does somebody moved to the HTC diamond and, if yes , can she/he tell us if there is the same problem with its bluetooth ?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
I just tryed the new TITAN Radio . even the one ported from the vogue. Its all rediculous.

How can this be such an issue.

I did play around in the service menu and rename MY-CAR to Altima. That was fun, but I was really hoping the latest radio cured this from the official 6.1 leaked. from DCD.

Im gong to be pissed with a cab comes out that takes 3 seconds to fix this POS 6800
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mzdiggler:
tilt and 2007 maxima

I own a 07 maxima and have never had any problems with the tilt maxima bluetooth gimmick .. im pretty sure its the same hardware for the g37
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
the maxima has the HD nav unit.

This issue is specific to the factory navigation nissan altimas from 07-08 and the G37s i think.

Ironically works fine with the 6700.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mzdiggler:
That is odd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
I spent last night going through the 6700 and 6800 registry with 6.1 Specifically the BT areas of the registry. There are only a few differences between them. I added a missing key and ended up breaking it one time, then the second time after a hard reset it worked but no change in the connect issues.

the DLLS in the windows directory do happen to be varying sizes etc but I dont think Im smart enough to find out what the dealio is here. It appears the we are at the mercy of HTC and NISSAN on this one.

I would say the ratio of HTC users of the mogul , titan, kaiser and the 07-08 altima with factory nav is probally a rare breed.

Hopefully someon can figure this out soon. Maybe HTC will suprise. I know verizon is tough on them when they have issues like this, specially when i call them up and demand a vogue at this point due to having a 30K car and a 500 phone that wont talk to each other. Oh yeah and I pay VZW 100 a month for 4 phones. Hopefully someone will get it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] garyfunk:
I'd like to find the answer. I can't use my Tilt in my 2008 Pathfinder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
Check the Nissan Altima 2008 search string.

I have swapped back to WM5 and all is well with the marriage of my 6800 and 08 Altima.

See if there is a WM5 image for the tilt out there. the WM5 stack works great with the nissan BT systems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] van3605:
I just bought 2009 Maxima w\ Factory Navigation and already had a AT&T Tilt, and have the same problem as everyone else. I'm running ROM 1.62.502.0 dated 1/17/08 on the Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
I have just got a Touch Pro and was having disconn problems with my Infiniti FX50S but remembered I had used Schap's latest configuration tool.

Performed a hard reset and it connects and works perfect in the 'Out of the box' condition.

Lesson learned is to only apply the tweaks you need via a registry editor that you are certain actually work on your device, some of the Tweak packages seem to apply generic hardware tweaks from past devices and can have an adverse effect.

Also, if you have changed the ROM in any way (different radio etc.) your device may not react to any released patches from your device supplier.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] louis78:
thanks for the feedback.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] natezaps:
tilt and 08 altima coupe

just wanted to say that i'm having the same problems (maybe if enough attention gets drawn, somebody will do something)

anyway, i got my car in jan 08 and i was using a piece of crap razr at the time. the bluetooth worked just fine. i just got my tilt (end of sept 08) and the phone and car don't play well. having the exact same issues as everyone else. it really pisses me off that i paid so much money for my car and my phone and the two things don't work together. it almost makes me mad enough to return the phone, but i really like everything else about it. sigh...

also, i'm running the default rom (just did the clean trick when customization screen comes up during a hard reset) i haven't had the phone long enough to play around with different roms yet, but i'm sure i will one day when i get bored or whatever.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Little trick for Infiniti owners to try.

On pairing setups I've seen, everything goes fine until the last confirmation is required from the Infiniti which then hangs.

At this point, make an outgoing call on your phone, anywhere will do, even call the wife at a last resort. ;)

Pairing will complete at this point and all should work after that. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] t1328:
Anyone been able to resolve this HTC/Nissan/Infiniti issue?

Hi Everyone:

Since it's been a few months since the last post here about this issue, I thought I would check in whether anyone has been able to resolve this issue in any way other than migrating back to WM5, which is not an acceptable solution in my case - I'm using a Touch Dual and experiencing the same problem.

Thanks

T1328
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] finster869:
touch pro with 2008 g37

I have the same crackling problem with the touch pro and my g37. My 6700 with mobile 6.1 had worked perfectly. Only work around I have found to date, as someone else suggested, is (after call is connected) to hit "switch to handset" then "phone" on the navigation system. That will give you a clear connection. It functions as a work around, but is a pain in the butt since you have to do it on each and every call.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gregwaltman:
I just wanted to jump in there and not ignite the flame, but state that I work for nissan motor acceptance corporation here in dallas tx, and the statement of 1000 american employees, is just kind of retarded. we have a large three story call center and a pdc attached that employ about a 1000 employees on their own, not counting tennesees office facilities, and production plants. i wont lie, i didnt read to see if anyone checked you on this, but if not, you lose. denied. I have an 08 nissan sentra through the company leaseing program (200 a month, insurance included , if i drive it into a tree i give them two hundred and fifty bucks and they give me a altima until another sentra is ready...same if the motor falls out, and i get a new one every year...) and it has the bt profile included with the premium stereo upgrade... and it works fine with my wifes shadow, and my 8525. sometimes she has an issue with the shadow changing the radio to bluetooth mode for not reason and just sitting there no call being made or anything, and she has to turn her phone off then back on, but thats the shadow not the sentra... anyways...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
greg,

1st. Thank you for visiting us.

2nd. When will this be fixed? Can nissan/infiniti fix this with a firmware update to the BT module.

3rd. Its rediculous that this ever went on this many years.....

It is widespread across many different vehciles with the bose navigation system OEM by ZEnrin or whatever it is.

~~~08 altima hybrid with bose oem navigation system.

Until it is fixed I will remain with a cooked WM5 rom so i can use my phone.

Even more humorous is that the diamond and the touchpro, the touch, and the tian/6800 all doe this.

The exemption is for the 6700.

When i last spoke with HTC, they said and I comment, They wish nissan would ship them some test vehicles to reproduce this.

Dead end.

Back to WM5 :) cause it just works perfect with our cars.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bradwcamp:
It had been a while since i checked this thread, but aparently there are folks running WM5 jn the kiaser? I hate to say it but i would entertain the idea if it would make my phone work with my G37.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fastman314:
Fuze

FYI - The Fuze has the same problem with Nissan 07 Altima as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nc88keyz:
add the diamond, and the diamond pro , as well as the touch pro to the list. Nice to see the fuze is hating the Zenrin OEM navigation system as well. What a **** up for both microsoft and nissan / infiniti
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bfspider:
I'm having BT problems in my '07 G35 with my Fuze. I can pair. But, when I make a call, no one can hear me and the sound quality sounds like it is studdering.