yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
:crying::crying:Sorry to hear. I'll be awaiting your review.

In the meantime, I have learned that due to it being MT6595, it does not work with MTK Droid Tools, so I can move along with my testing. The current update, 6.1.2 addresses the L2 and R2 mapping, as well as the SD Card issue, however, there is a camera bug that will need to be addressed with the 6.1.2 update. It is said the bug can be avoided by manually flashing the update, and only flashing certain parts of the update.

USB Debugging is not hidden like in the 78P01. It can be activated through normal methods. Recovery can be gotten into by holding down Volume Up when turning on the device.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Hi All. Just a small update. I was about to flash the International update, but before I did, I installed the 6.1.2 update. I didn't experience any issues with the camera. It works fine. The mapping is updated to support L2 and R2. Of course, it is the Chinese firmware, so I still have to flash, but just figured I'd give that tidbit of information.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_Gatekeeper_:
Cool good to know! And don't worry guys I'm still here too I just lurk more than reply as I'm tied down with a few work commitments. Is there anything else anyone would like to know about the device or have we mostly covered the basics?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david7380:
I know, the same happened to me with the Snail 78P01, it is a great device for emulators and some games but as a phone is very big and uncomfortable. Also it feels very outdated when compared to let’s say my Xperia Z5C. I just wish Sony makes an Xperia Play 2 or some other company develops an Xperia Play-alike gaming phone with at least a Snapdragon 820 SoC.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Hey all. I'll be posting a review of the device by the end of the week. Just to compile things. It is a lot like the 78P01 in terms of use. Unfortunately, it has short comings, and can only really be enjoyed by gaming phone enthusiasts.

MechaBouncer: I regretfully have to say, the D-pad is NOT for fighting games. It feels like it is missing some range of motion. Very difficult to pull off moves, and I'm a pretty seasoned fighting game vet, from Street Fighter, to Battle Arena Toshinden. However, the analogs are vastly improved, more on that later.

Carl1975: I haven't had any issues with the bluetooth. It's actually improved, or should I say, up to standards, and now works with WiFi on, unlike the 78P01.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MechaBouncer:
Thanks for the updates on this. That is disappointing to hear. Between what you and anthonylp25 are saying, I may just be better off sticking with my old Xperia Play for retro games and Xperia Z3 Compact for daily driver. It's too bad, I was hoping that this one would finally be a worthy gaming phone. I wonder if they are going to bother making another after this?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Honestly, I hope they do, or somebody does. I really don't want this to be the end of gaming phones. However, all news about the W3D isn't bad. After playing a little more with the D-pad, It's not that it's lacking motions, but the diagonal presses are hard to pull off sometimes. I was able to execute the move easily with some practice, but it takes some breaking in. However, for a fighting game enthusiast, it is hard to recommend. The D- Pad works great with other side scrolling games, like Megaman Zero, Mario, Sonic, Dan The Man, stuff like that. But those quarter-circle moves takes practice. I remember someone saying they found an overlay for the 78P01 D-pad that fit. I may look more into that, and if not too cumbersome, install and see. If the D-Pad was bigger, I think it would work better.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MechaBouncer:
That's the exact problem I had with the PSP. It worked fine for up, down, left, and right, but not for trying to do diagonal directions necessary to pull off something as simple as hadouken. Sony nailed it on the Xperia Play, but nobody else has come close since.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Gatekeeper - How has Straight Talk been working for you? Are you able to get 4G and LTE with it? I currently have AT&T and contacted customer service regarding my connection being spotty. They stated the IMEI number only allows for 3G access, and even that is spotty at best. Barely an indoor coverage. This isn't the only device, whereas my 78P01 experienced the same issues recently. Being a 3G phone, when I first activated worked flawlessly, but then a few months ago it stopped picking up the 2100 band for 3G+. Then a few months after that, stopped picking up 3G at all.

I contacted AT&T and they stated my IMEI was showing my device as 2G only, and spotty 2G at that. All the same, no indoor coverage, spotty outdoor coverage. I am now getting the same issues with the W3D, except now I at least get 3G, albeit spotty outdoors and barely any indoors.

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Yeah, I really wish it was modular. Oddly enough, the 78p01 D-pad had no issues with diagonals, but the molding in the front of it threw it off. However, it was a little too clicky. A good Marvel vs Capcom match sounded like a tap dance battle, lol!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MechaBouncer:
Out of curiosity, have you tried both SIM slots? It's possible that only one of them is capable of 4G LTE. I seemed to notice that in the specs and that the second SIM was limited to slower network speeds. Perhaps this is related?

They must have used different switches under the same D-pad. I used to take controllers apart and even tried fixing the D-pad on my PSP. I remember how different the membrane could be under it and how the central axis affected operation. Generally the better ones would pivot from a central point that did not depress. Less functional D-pads would push down in the middle of the D-pad, which led to spongy response when trying to round from one direction to another.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
To answer the first response, I haven't tried the second SIM Slot, however, there is an option in Engineering Mode that allows you to switch which SIM Slot gets access to 4G. But you are correct, by default, the First SIM slot has access to 4G/3G/2G, while the second SIM seems to only have access to 2G. This can be modified in Engineering mode, where you can set the first SIM to have 4G/2G, and the second 3G/2G, or vice versa. However, the issue seems to be with AT&T registering the IMEI number in their system. Gatekeeper stated he is using Straight Talk, so I was wondering if he was using a branded device before, and just popped in the SIM, or did he give Straight Talk the IMEI Number. I may even try going to AT&T, cancelling my line, and reactivating it with a used branded phone, then swap out phones afterward. At least I know nothing is wrong with my 78P01, so that's a relief.

As for the D-Pad, oddly enough, the D-Pad is one of the better builds, with as you described, a center-point that does not depress, which is why I think if the D-Pad was bigger, it would be easier for quarter-circle moves. The 78P01 D-Pad depressed in the middle, but because of it's small size, helped with making full motion.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_Gatekeeper_:
Yeah it works fine check my previous post where I screencapped a speedtest of the 4G LTE speed. It wasn't nearly as fast as my internet or my verizon account, but it gets the job done!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69342878&postcount=16
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
How did you set it up? Was it a new account, or did you previously have Straight Talk before?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigpillincaman:
I agree with everything except for the dpad. For me the dpad is perfect for fighting games. I think it's a personal taste.

We hope to find the solution to the battery :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silvacrest:
Just wanted to say thinks for making a somewhat comprehensive review, i have to wait till wednesday before i get mine by you have given me some hope that i wont be too disappointed.

Like you i had the W1 and i5 but they were lacking even back then against the android crop but the W3D isn't to far behind, 4G, 1080P screen, a processor that isn't just filled with cortex A7s, i dont think i could go back to sub 5.5 inches too :)

The cons you mentioned were expected but my question to you is will you keep it? considering that some on this forum have already suggested that they might file it in a draw.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
That makes me happy. Maybe I just have to warm it up a bit. I was testing Castlevania for Mechabouncer and after some practice, I was able to pull of the move, but it wasn't as easy as normal. The game I had the most issues with was Street Fighter 2 Turbo, where I use a lot of diagonals for charging with Guile. I'll keep playing with it and hopefully get better. But as for my out of the box experience, it was a tad disappointing.

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Yeah, definitely keeping it. My past daily driver was the 78P01, and when compared to that, it's an upgraded device. Not saying the 78P01 was bad, but this is an upgrade for me. However, for most people, this would be a step back software or hardware wise. To an owner of a 78P01, this device is a welcome upgrade. It eliminates a lot of the shortcomings of the 78P01, like smartwatch compatibility, L2 and R2, full 3G compatibility, LTE support, among other things, like the flash from the camera can now actually be used as a flashlight, unlike the 78P01.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
In case anyone was looking for what the guts look like on the W3D, here are some pics I found from the IREADYGO FCC Filing, I think.

https://fccid.io/2AFXQ-W3D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deen0X:
Thanks DroidX2 for the review that is very useful

questions: How did you test the 3D feature? I'm testing the device, using the international firmware, that don´t come with any software or demo related to 3D, except for video player, but is so weird to view any movie. Do you have any 3D sample test for check it? i downloaded many 3D samples, but i never get the 3D inmersive vision that i figure will get. Instead of this, the only vision i have is something similar to 3DS vision when you're not calibrated to the screen, and get weird images because you're watching different images with each eye, and these images can´t composite in a single stereoscopic image.

And, i tested many many games, for enabling the 3D feature, but i never get this to work. Even with the Snail games (that i figured will be enabled) there is no 3D on it. ... and this is frustrating.

The device is interesting as gaming phone, but i want to talk on my review about the main feature of the phone: 3D non glass screen, but i can't test properly.

Any help or clue will be so appreciated!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Sure, I'll help in anyway I can. By the way, REALLY Glad to hear you are doing a review!!!

I was able to test the 3D effect by downloading videos in mkv format. However, on the phone, the extension shows .m2ts.

Here is the website I got the vids from. Nothing illegal, just a few demo 3D videos.

http://www.demo-world.eu/3d-demo-trailers-hd/

The one I downloaded was the RIO CARNIVAL, under LG, but the other videos should work fine.

I was able to play the video through both the normal video app, and the 3D player. When the video starts in the 3D Player, it gives a small tutorial of video controls, and you can see the red light to the left of the device illuminate. It takes a while before it gets a good lock. Try slightly tilting the device. The 3D effect is pretty good, although I wish it was manually controlled, like the 3DS, instead of automatic.

I tried some games that were 3D capable, but they didn't seem to activate the 3D feature. It seems that the 3D is limited to the 3D Player so far. I also tried finding Taichi Panda 3D, but no luck. There are other stereoscopic 3D games in the play store which are compatible with HTC EVO 3D, or LG OPTIMUS. Maybe there is a secret setting in the device that allows us to choose when the 3D is activated.

If you need anything else, let me know!:D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Deen0X, I figured out how to best view the 3D. Hold the device away from your face, about a little less than arms length.

If I find some 3D Compatible games, I'll let you know.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dilemina:
Did this thread die?

I am still planning on picking this phone up, but it may be a while.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Not exactly, but I think those that had questions had them answered already. Nothing really new to report at this time. I'm still waiting on AT&T to add my IMEI number, so I would suggest anyone getting the phone to use Straight Talk here in the US.

Currently, we are trying to acquire the Chinese 6.1.2 update, but we may be in luck as someone has stated they bought the device and will upload the update once they receive it. Once gotten, I'll try to upload the SD Card fix and button mapping that comes with it, while still retaining Google Play access. We've also been testing the 3D player, and sadly, at the moment, it only plays 3D videos from the included app. While the 3D effect is awesome, it's very limited based on availability. Basically, you can download and play 3D videos all day through the app, but no 3D games, wallpapers, etc at the moment.

Once I have something noteworthy, I'll update, but currently, everything has been mute for the moment. Currently, I'm enjoying the device, even without mobile internet access.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigpillincaman:
Hi,

has anyone tried soul calibur and GTA III with this phone?

soul calibur at the Home screen prompts you to press the start button but the virtual key on the W3D not work.

Instead in a GTA III mission you are asked to honk but no physical button works for that and I can't make appear the touch hud.

Thank you
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
I was able to get into Soul Calibur using Tincore. but it's tricky, however, profitable since I found a way. I'm sure there are other games that fall into that category, like Implosion. There are so many variants to button implementation that it's messy to configure for. Most games are set up for the more popular controllers, like Moga, or Nvidia Shield, so they automatically set up when hardware buttons are sensed. I'll play around more and see if I can work a way around it using Tincore. Once I have something, I'll update. This is where the Xperia Play was best. It had a huge backing of support from app developers, and they specifically updated their apps to work with the Xperia Play. Due to the low key nature of the W3D, we are on our own to find workarounds for the more difficult games.

Tincore allows for configurations to be uploaded to their server, and when a game is played, downloaded and applied to the user device. If I can get a working configuration, I'll upload it to the Tincore database for everyone to use, especially for Implosion. I couldn't get that one to work on 78P01 either. Should be able to fix GTA 3 as well. I haven't been able to test it yet, but I will.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Update as promised. I was able to map Soul Calibur with Tincore. Here is a link to the config in my Drive. The config needs to be imported into Tincore from the options.

Shamefully, for games like this one, or Implosion, the factory mapper will leave some games unplayable, since when the game senses the buttons, disables the touch controls.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1zvVczn5zv1VldCNEtkMnRIR1k/view?usp=drivesdk

Still working on the others. Implosion still stubborn as ever.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigpillincaman:
Thank you! It works!

I managed to solve with GTA III with snail key mapper. I put all the buttons and analogs on the screen, then I restarted the game and now I can see the touch hud with the damn small button of the horn!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
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Cool! Glad its working for ya! I tested GTA 3 as well and I was able to use the horn with the onscreen buttons. I didn't map it or anything, just tapped the screen and the onscreen buttons showed up and the horn was amongst them.

By the way, for Soul Calibur, I mapped the start and select buttons to the L2(select) R2(start) for easy access. I wasn't able to get all three buttons to press for the super moves though.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigpillincaman:
Thanks for your info!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Gatekeeper, would you be willing to share your APN settings? I would like to compare them to mine.

I am currently using the AT&T with RESELLER APN, and STRAIGHT TALK with TFDATA APN. They both work about the same, and while my 4G connection is better than expected, my calling ability is sub par due to a weak 3G signal.

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_Gatekeeper_:
sure thing

Name: Cingular 410

APN: tfdata

APN Type: default,mms,supl

Proxy: Not Set

Port: Not Set

Username: Not Set

Password: Not Set

Server: Not Set

MMSC: http://mms-td.netcom/

MMS proxy: nns3.tracfone.com

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

Authentication type: Not Set

APN Protocol: IPv4

APN roaming protocol: IPv4

Bearer: Unspecified

I've only used it in town a few times for may 4-10 minutes a call. No one complained about any quality on my end.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Thanks Gatekeeper! There is two things I need to verify. For the MMSC: is it netcom, or net.com. Also, I don't see the MNC-410, can that be omitted?

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_Gatekeeper_:
Sorry man I was outright wasted when I posted that.

MMSC: http://mms-tf.net/

MMS proxy: mms3.tracfone.com

my straight talk card is deactivated and thanks to that I can't use it to look up the 100% correct settings, those are from memory. And my phone was reset because it was acting super weird.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
That's cool! Thanks for the update. Weird thing is that I was able to get MMS with those settings. Then again, I use Textra, and it may not have updated to the new APN. However, still in the doghouse when it comes to making and receiving calls, and in my tinkering to fix it, I installed something and now my Proximity sensor is acting up. I booted in safe mode and it works fine, so it's not hardware related, but I don't know what I installed that broke it. Probably happened when I went into the system app folder and tried to reinstall an already installed system app called CELL CONNECTION SERVICE, pretty sure that did it, lol! Either that, or when I deleted the controller key layout files to get Implosion to work, which still doesn't work with the controller.

I planned to do a re-flash anyway since there was a ROM I wanted to test. I've tried nearly everything I can think of to get calls to work. AT&T even added a dummy APN to my account with 4G access, and still couldn't get good 3G service, or 4G. The weird thing is, the radio works fine since LTE is pretty dependable, even on the inside, and that's just 1 band of connection. There has to be something in the settings of the phone that domestic phones have and international doesn't, or maybe AT&T killed a band of 3G in this area since most of their phones are VoLTE, but that would leave out a lot of customers that don't have that feature. My last option is trying a new phone number.

By the way, what happened to your phone Gatekeeper?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Hey all, just a quick update. I am able to use Xposed on the device. Within the installer, you are greeted with an Aliyun OS warning.

Proceed with caution, but it installed just fine. I can now use modules like Gravity Box(KK) among others.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Seems this thread has been quiet for some time. If anyone still has this device and still using it, I have a small update. Firstly, the 6.1.2 update does not fix the MOVE 2 SD card issue, unlike some reports may have suggested. From my experience, if you find an app in the Play Store does not install, giving the error of not enough storage, you can still install the app by going into SETTINGS - STORAGE, and unmount the EXTERNAL SDCARD. Once unmounted, simply return to the Google Play Store and install the app that gave the error. after installation, just return to SETTINGS-STORAGE, and mount the SD CARD back. Once apps update, they tend to update to the installed location, so I haven't had any issues with an app not updating. Although the situation is possible, I have not encountered it as of this time.

Also, having the 6.1.2 update handy, we have been able to extract the KEY ADAPTER apk which contains the L2 and R2 buttons in the mapper. I have installed it on my device which is running 6.1.1, which, by default, does not have key adapter support for L2/R2.

Using ROOT EXPLORER (or your desired root browser) copy the apks to the system/app folder. Once there, install them, then restart the device. You should get the android is updating screen and then you should be all set to use L2/R2.

Links to the apks are below.

KEY ADAPTER - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1zvVczn5zv1V0JCU01sSV9Selk

KEY ADAPTER RES FOR L SERIES - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1zvVczn5zv1Z3NBdnk0aFBIcFU
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigpillincaman:
Thank you for the update!

You know if the new update improves battery life?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_Gatekeeper_:
Hey guys sorry for being kind of absent I've been working my butt raw. I have been using the device every day now and I'm still impressed with it. Maybe I'm crazy but it works really well. The have been times where the phone tends to get a bit hot but not like worrying or anything just warmer than normal. other than that though gamestream is almost perfect on this thing and I've wasted so many office hours playing on my pc lol. And it's a fun conversation starter when they see the 3D screen in action too.

And DroidX2 that's goods news about the xposed too
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidX2:
Not to my knowledge. It seems the update was mainly for the L2/R2 keyboard add. I haven't actually installed the 6.1.2 since the device is my daily driver for the moment, and I would have to reinstall everything. Currently, for me it lasts a day, and that's with lots of Shadow Fight 2 playing, and a live wallpaper.

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Thanks for the update! I've been enjoying the device as well. I've been looking into doing game-streaming on it. If I can pull that off over a 4G connection, that'd be sweet! The only issue that I've been having is the 3G connection. I'm not sure if it's my area or what, but I've tried so many things, but I can only register to the 850 for 3G. The 1900 and 2100 refuse to register.

I'm desperate to know if anyone else is experiencing this issue. Are you all able to make calls without consistent drop outs, or able to go into Engineering mode, and uncheck the 850 and still get 3G? Personally, if I knew it was a hardware issue, I would gladly get another W3D and just use this one for parts, but I think it really is just a software issue.

As for xposed, I haven't tried a bunch of tweaks, but the ones I have tried do work without issue. I even installed ViperFX for my audio in case you wanted to use that.

Also, if you rooted with Kingroot, and unable to get rid of Kingo Superuser, there is now a Carliv Touch recovery you can install, which will allow you to flash the SuperSU package over Kingo, giving full root access. The reason I say full access is because with Kingo Superuser, I was unable to install ViperFX.