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[Nexus 6  General] :
I will admit I am very easily annoyed. Easily.

kwdan mentioned that it's stupid to slow it down, which won't matter to me, as I paid for this phone - how do I get a long standby time? Easy. The CPU has a semiconductor process technology (High-dielectric metal gate - HkMG) which basically stave off transistor gate leakage in turn allowing Snapdragon 805 to run much faster for each watts it eat up (better performance per watt ratio compared to older 40nm ARM processors). So, if I tune down the speed, it just drop CPU voltage down so the battery consumption become pretty low.

Slowing down the CPU is stupid? Let's look at an analogy (however not the best) towards the cars. Suppose you decide to buy a Honda car for its fuel consumption and general hardware quality (Japanese-imported Hondas are actually built to last), and you end up being happy with it overall. And some strangers start to mention that you're stupid for buying that car and that you are "" (insert your favorite derogatory name-calling, like "ricer"), that you're better off buying some other gas guzzler cars like Ford or Opel (newer Opel may already have changed in how the engine works) for instance - however, in the end you pass them off, instead stay with a car you're happy with (especially by the fact that fuel is ridiculously expensive in some countries). Same with CPU settings - especially in the laptop which battery charge is a precious commodity.
[Nexus 6  General] kwdan:
I never said that slowing down the CPU was stupid. I simply asked "why do it?" You're correct.. It's your phone, use it the way you want. I just don't understand why not use the charger that was supplied with the device.
[Nexus 6  General] :
Good question. However as far as I know, fast charging is already proven to be bad for Lithium-ion batteries; it causes electrochemical breakdown (the Anode plating goes first, forcibly burying the Lithium atoms rendering some spot of battery electrode useless - source: http://www.desy.de/news/news_search/index_eng.html?openDirectAnchor=763 - note some keywords as of why Qualcomm had to refine Quick Charge much further to Version 3.0 - they also learned their lesson on Nexus 6 swollen battery saga). As for heat, it will typically result in swollen battery as electrolytes have low boiling point than water (Electrolytes in Lithium batteries are usually Ester-based). From the battery life expectancy point of view, Quick Charging is not so good - unless you have removable battery or know how to replace it (Nexus 6 has 22 - 23 screws on the battery cage backing after you peel off the backing cover).

Abusing the nonremovable Lithium ion battery won't be good, which may result in what happened to Nexus 6 in the picture below.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
I want to keep this thread on topic, but a couple of your comments baffle me.

"I paid for this phone"

So what? We all did, no?

"High-dielectric metal gate" "transistor gate leakage"

You post this as if you know what it means. I haven't any idea. Have you? Your argument that slowing the processor to save battery makes sense - but quotes like this make me think that you're trying to baffle me with science. Keep it simple so that I can understand, yes?

"stay with a car you're happy with"

Which apparently you are not? Me, I have never worried about kernels and voltage regulators, and as I said after 18 months I still have about two days' usage. And I totally disregard what other people say about my phone usage - in fact, nobody has ever commented on it. Maybe you're just lucky?

Again, the phrase "anal retentiveness" comes to mind. Can't you just enjoy your N6 instead of worrying over every last nanosecond of OST?

Your nickame implies that you have a doctorate. Risking asking an open question (which lawyers abhor) do you have a computer science degree? If so, why are you posting in a help thread...?

P.S. Please just reply if you want - don't copy my entire post again. I wrote it. I don't need to read it again.
[Nexus 6  General] caloyzki:
Does anyone of you here already received the N OTA on your N6? Mine not rooted and stock. Still no N OTA. Just wondering maybe tou guys got it?
[Nexus 6  General] neilrl79:
Just so I'm clear, this boot.img does not force encryption?
[Nexus 6  General] yudumcan:
it says Encrypted phone. So I have to be unencrypted for better performance?
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
The sad part is those that were on the beta 5 probably won't even notice a difference.
[Nexus 6  General] HuStLaZ:
Yup,. Just woke up and got the OTA ready to install
[Nexus 6  General] aoaleman:
Correct!
[Nexus 6  General] 31ken31:
OTA just popped up on mine. On dp5 so just gonna wait for a ROM so I don't have to redo twrp and such, hell waited this long already lol.
[Nexus 6  General] cameraddict:
I had to check my About Phone setting, but once I did the OTA popped up. I'm currently on DP5. Those that have already moved onto the official release from DP5: Any issues?
[Nexus 6  General] jmartin72:
Android Device Manager works now, but no face unlock, and no VR options, but we kinda knew that.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Anyone have a twrp flash zip yet of the rom?
[Nexus 6  General] yudumcan:
do I flash this after flashing the N image?
[Nexus 6  General] p0izn:
I think you should use provided boot.img instead of original one
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Im on beta program npd stock root with twrp would i still get ota? Everytime i try it dont work. Do i need to stock and unroot for OTA?
[Nexus 6  General] JohnnyMontana_:
I got the OTA and I'm rooted with twrp
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
I guess it takes time. Everytime i check update it quickly goes to system up to date
[Nexus 6  General] jmartin72:
No face unlock, and no VR settings, but we already knew that
[Nexus 6  General] bobdallama:
tried installing the OTA (from DP5) and it asks for the decryption pattern, which I enter, then it tells me "unable to mount storage"

...was previously rooted stock DP5...what am I missing?
[Nexus 6  General] sundownls1:
How did you get it to take? Mine rebooted into TWRP recovery. Every reboot after that only goes directly to recovery. Did I miss something?
[Nexus 6  General] JohnnyMontana_:
Oh I haven't installed it yet sorry. I was just saying that I'm on dp5 and I got the ota. It'll definitely wipe twrp and root, so if you want to keep those I'd suggest waiting on a flashable.
[Nexus 6  General] Knightvision:
Got my OTA.

Had to hit "check for updates" twice. It came up with no updates both times and then suddenly presented the update. So even if it says no update, give it a second or two.
[Nexus 6  General] sundownls1:
Yeeahhh .... A little late for that. :)

I was just a little distracted at work and wasn't thinking. Going all the way to the OG Droid, I should have known better.

Oh well, at least my battery will last the rest of the shift.
[Nexus 6  General] bvzxa3:
My wife who now uses my Nexus 6 got hers almost a month ago. She was on the Nougat preview build and one day it sent the update. She misses her Note but she cant deny the phone is still pretty snappy.
[Nexus 6  General] kwdan:
I'm rooted and on 7.1. have you tried powering down, taking out the sim, rebooting without sim and see if it prompts for upgrade? I've read before that that worked sometimes.
[Nexus 6  General] mchlbenner:
I believe you need to sign up for the beta plan.
[Nexus 6  General] holeindalip:
Why are people still complaining about not getting the ota?? Just go get the ota file from Google and adb push it, it's not hard people
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
[MENTION=4035796]kwdan[/MENTION]

7.1? On the N6? Where did you get that? There's no OTA, no image, and not even a beta.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Could be Nitrogen....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=69079654/
[Nexus 6  General] kwdan:
Yes.. Nitrogen! Rock solid , extremely stable and battery life is amazing. Try it. "Ok Google"( google assistant) from any screen works for some. Everything else, tethering, night mode, and many more features works for most. . Made my phone phone feel new again.
[Nexus 6  General] Trina9:
Got it last month. Stock, unrooted, Sprint.
[Nexus 6  General] KCT1975:
Same thing here...

I am on Sprint with a stock non-rooted Nexus 6, and I got the update to 7.0 at the end of last month.

I'm just wondering if our Nexus 6 devices will eventually get the 7.1 maintenance update or not.
[Nexus 6  General] Trina9:
We aren't getting the developer preview but will get 7.1. This is from the article from Google announcing that preview.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
The article said that the N6 won't get the first preview, but they said it will get them later.
[Nexus 6  General] debido666:
Supposedly next month, beta.
[Nexus 6  General] SamuriHL:
November 7.0 and 6.0.1 security images are posted.
[Nexus 6  General] kwdan:
Nitrogen 7.1 Rom.

I'm currently using the Nitrogen 7.1 rom.. This is my typical battery usage. Great ROM..very stable, loads of extra features that Google should have added.
[Nexus 6  General] kwdan:
[MENTION=4610380]caloyzki[/MENTION].. Did the sim card pull help you get the update? Curious if it worked?
[Nexus 6  General] Sachin:
I think forcing OTA might work!

If you're on stock 6.0.1 [MM] with root, then goto settings > Apps > tap show system apps > now scroll up until you see Google services framework then tap that app > Clear data > clear cached data too > reboot!

Now connect to a better Internet > Turn on Location >put it to high accuracy mode > go back to system update page >check for the update you'll get it!

:D
[Nexus 6  General] caloyzki:
It didnt help removing the sim card and turn back on.

And i tried this, and after turning it on boom! Android 7.0 update comes up! Thank you so much. I wonder whats the cause of not showing up. N6 pure stock not rooted.
[Nexus 6  General] Sachin:
I'm Glad it worked for you!! :good:
[Nexus 6  General] sam008:
Guys - I heard that google released 7.1 developer preview for Nexus 6 devices too. Does anybody have a download link to it?

Thx
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Where did you hear that? The beta OTA page doesn't show it.
[Nexus 6  General] chitown835:
It's not getting released for maybe one or two weeks
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
And where did you hear that? November has another 3 weeks to go.

Guesses without a proper reference source are just pointless noise.
[Nexus 6  General] chitown835:
I mean it's common sense that they are not released until the 18-20th
[Nexus 6  General] joseph230:
So the issue is not present if I do a factory image update?
[Nexus 6  General] GraveDigger176:
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html <<<< scroll a bit down and you can see that the our N6 is on the train for dev preview 2
[Nexus 6  General] jeffreii:
I have one major issue on 7.0: after certain usage the phone gets extremely sluggish until reboot. Happens every day or two.

Never had this on Marshmallow. Running stock no modifications after a full wipe, clean flash of 7.0, then full wipe again. Redid all settings manually.

Anyone else?
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
I posted this information weeks ago in these forums when the beta first appeared.

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-nougat-7-1-preview-t3483997/post69218184#post69218184

The notification says "Nexus 6 November", There is no date, so all that's going on here is the usual sharknado of baseless conjecture.

When the beta actually appears and someone posts a link to it I'll shower them with thanks. Until then, as I said, it's all just noise cluttering the forums. Please let's stop it now.
[Nexus 6  General] GraveDigger176:
sorry big man didn't read your post :D :D

but when you see the date for the first preview it was the 19th of october, so i think the preview 2 will available around 21-25th of november :good:

and by the way it's not a sharknado (worst and biggest bull**** movies ever) is just a compute exempel :cowboy: :good:

have a great week and happy flashing :good:
[Nexus 6  General] saa1618:
Awesome!!! I was waiting for this like FOREVER :D

:victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:

EDIT : It's the 7.0.0 (NBD91U, Dec 2016) no 7.1 yet for the shamu
[Nexus 6  General] kidhudi:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/574483/Android-7-Nougat-Update-Release-Date-Samsung-Galaxy-S7

Galaxy s7 got it before us :(
[Nexus 6  General] MartinN6:
Unbelivable! :eek:

Shame on you - Google ...
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Dont blame google as the only thing that is needed is the proprietary blobs from Moto. You can have 7.1.1 right now if you wanted it. Just takes a little work. I have been on 7.1.1 for a few weeks. Its the whole point of getting a nexus. Not having to wait on the OEM if you really dont want to.
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
Tagging in to see anyone gets this OTA on Verizon. I'm getting sick of Google's crap support and considering alternatives.
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Wow,,, okay.. be grateful that Google is even supporting the N6 after being on the market almost 27 months. Also, let see if you want to try and make a ROM. If your not happy still, then go for one of the many many great roms here on XDA. I gave been on Nitro for a few months now on 7.1.1 and its great, nice and fast and I get over 1 day of battery use. Not trying to say Nitro is the bees knees, but its what I use.
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
Thanks! While I have no desire to make a ROM, Root, etc my phone but I'll definitely keep Nitro in mind. Battery life is terrible on my N6. I have to charge it at least once a day, usually twice and that's with what I'd call light to moderate use. No games, videos, music, etc.

Having to be grateful Google is supporting a 27 month old device is one of the things pushing me away. Another major player just updated a device that's 50 or 51 months old now.

I'm going to hold out a bit longer and see if the Android 7 OTA comes but if not, I think I'm going to miss Android. :(
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Out of curiosity what device was it that was updated you are referring to? Also, my combination for battery life is:

Nitro

I stick with the Nitro kernel

I do flash a file called "disable-throttling" i found on N6 forum ***** See below for link

To keep my sound from fluctuating when listening to music I have all apps battery optimized except Google PLAY and MX Player and youtube. I typically average at least a full day to over a day sometimes. I do not play games on my phone and I listen to music at work for around 4-6 hours a day. My typical day is I take my phone off charger at 6am and when I come home from work I am around anywhere from 55-65% battery left.

Hope some of this help.

**** Link for disable-throttling

https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/mod-disable-throttling-battery-low-t3440814
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
Thanks for the tips! In about 4 ½ hours I'm down to 41% battery which is about "normal" and I don't do anything like music or videos on my phone. I have everything optimized that the phone will optimize, LOL!

The support I was referring to is Apple supporting the iPhone 5 with iOS 10.2 and it's from back in September of 2012.
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Ah, okay. I was thinking it was an android based phone you were referring to. But yes, you are right, Apple supports there phones as long as the hardware permits for quite some time. While I am definately not an Apple fan I will give them props for that. But to be honest for me, I know that Nougat will be the last android update officially. But from that point I will be fine with custom roms. My issue now is no other phone even after almost 2 years catches my eye. The N6 has such an awesome screen size and the speakers and with all the things I do to it, is plenty fast. Nothing for the price comes close. I do like the look of the Mate 9 and the size of it, but support is slim from the maufacturer and let alone the modding community (unless I am mistaken).

Anyways, there are things you can do to make this phone more enjoyable. Personally I still love this phone as much now as I did when I bought, probably more so because I figured out how to resolve that irritating sound dropping issue. Also, I did have the issue with the split screen on this model, found that it happened with ElementalX kernel (more like it was the governor that EX uses as default that causes the issues), so I either stick with Flash kernel or the PureShamu kernel that is custom made for Nitro.

Anyways, have a good one. Sorry for the long reply.
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
No worries bud! I appreciate all the information!

I agree, I'm definitely not an Apple fan. Never really have been. Probably never will be but at the cost of these devices anymore I guess I expect more life and official support.

I had forgotten about how often sounds drop out until a few weeks ago. It's like something in the software goes to sleep and needs a kick to wake it up. And then the volume issue where full volume is like 3/4 until you reboot and then it's back to full for a bit again.

I completely agree that so far nothing is really all that interesting to me. I was seriously thinking Pixel XL but I'm kinda underwhelmed when I played with one a bit. And again, no official IP water resistance rating.

The LG with the replaceable battery definitely seems more interesting than the Pixel XL to me right now and at least has the back button where it belongs but I prefer pure Android to the LG version.

I'm going to hope that maybe 7 helps with the battery life and if not I may be learning how to get that Nitro on here. Five and half hours and less than 20% battery. :(
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Yeah I hear you on the cost to life support ratio. I paid for mine out right so I dont plan on leaving it for at least another year.

Some other things I do for battery is remove all the bloat I can. When I flash Nitro rom I only flash the Pico Gapps. It is the bare minimum needed to get google services working. It leaves a lot more space on the system side of storage (root access system partition size is much smaller then would be with all the bloatware that is on there) I also use Greenify. I tell it to hibernate all apps that are either not related to widgets or keyboard. What it does is prevent apps from opening in the background an killing your battery (cough.... facebook...cough)

Apps only run when I want to use said app. All in all my phone us butter smooth and gets great battery life.

I have attached some screenshots I of my battery over the last week...
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
The S7 hasn't gotten it first. Not yet anyway. If Google releases the images this week as expected, N6 will have it first since the S7 release is targeted as January 2017 with no specific date given. It could come on the 31st for the S7.
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
WOW! That's impressive! Yea... Not even close to that here anymore. Not that it was that good to begin with! I think it uses more battery than that just sitting around, LOL!

I'm like you, bought mine outright from Google. Runs in my mind it was about $700.00 bucks. I'd definitely like to keep it awhile longer and see if something more interesting comes along. It seems to be working okay again lately but if it quits getting notifications again, it's gone.

I think I need to start researching how to back everything up and flashing. I'd like better than 5 to 6 hours of battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Honestly the Godsend is the nandroid backups you can do in twrp custom recovery. I can make a nandroid backup. Flash a rom and if I decide I dont like it, go back into recovery and restore my backup. 5 minutes later I reboot and its like I never made any changes.... seriously its fantastic. But given the age of this phone and the fact that the upcoming update will be its last official from Google, I would highly recommend you unlock the bootloader, root and use a custom ROM to maximize the phones usefullness and its performance. But be advised you should copy your phones internal storage to your PC as unlocking the bootloader wipes the phones storage completely, so anything you have on there wil be wiped clean. Also, another thing I recommend is all official ROMs from Google enforce encrytion on the phone. I have my encryption removed. What used to take about 6-8 minutes to do a nandroid back, typical nandroids for me are about 4gb in size, takes about 2-3 minutes.

There are loads of tutorials on how to bootloader unlock and its super easy and quick. I guess for convenience sake there is NExus root toolkit. Although I recommend you learn to use ADB commands. But NRT would be the fastest route to unlock and flash custom recovery such as TWRP.
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
Thanks! This is actually my second N6. The first one had an update go south and would keep shutting off. And then it would go into a loop when I'd try to boot it. Just the whole optimizing apps screen over and over. I kinda forgot about that. I had planned on rooting but wanted to make sure this one was good. Loosing everything would just suck. I'm definitely going to look into how to back everything up and root it though. If I could get through a 9 or so hour day at work I'd be thrilled.
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Yeah man, theres so much you an do once you have twrp and a custom rom with root. Root is the key, it allows you to remove bloatware that kils the battery, along with making other changes to improve performance and batery life. Also, titanium backup is your best friend. Allows you to bacup your phones apps along with the data for each app. I do not belive we are allowed to post Youtube links here but look it up on Youtube. Let me know if you got questions.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
why is this thread up guyz? there's no 7.1.1 update yet, maybe go chatter to another thread with a different title? brb looking up and down the the thread for new system image, waste of time, mod should lock this to avoid confusion
[Nexus 6  General] SLMcc:
Awesome, thanks! I'll check that out. I kinda gotta do something. I've charged it twice today. This seems to be one of those bad days.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
WEll if people are confused then they have not followed the rules and deserve to be confused.

I am watching the thread and have my reasons for leaving it open.

For those that are complaining, well get to making it yourself.

There are 2 options here.

1. code it yourself.

2 sit back and wait.

Notice how there is not complaining or ETA asking options?
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
Sorry guys, seems we did kind of jack this thread. Okay... now back to the regularly scheduled program...
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
I'm curious. Exactly what is so unique about the n6 that it is the only device that gets its updates way later. Is it Motorola?
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
That is one of the biggest. As well as all new devices are 64 bit as to where the n6 is 32 bit.

Also you have to remember that the n6 is already dead as far as moto is concerned.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Apparently all the others are 64-bit, while the N6 is 32-bit and therefore requires some mods. The word from Google is that it will be out in early January. I wonder if they meant 2017...?

Edit: Sorry, I see that zelendel has alreay explained - I should have refreshed again before I answered... :)
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
January updates have been posted but nothing at all for the N6 yet.
[Nexus 6  General] GraveDigger176:
What did you expect google is the same **** as other manfaturer with no longer completely new phones :laugh: :laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Mostly it being Lenovo, unfortunately.
[Nexus 6  General] y300owner:
How to I get stock ROM on the phone?
[Nexus 6  General] Ygor Cortes:
The only thing you did to fix the sound dropping problem was to disable battery optimisation (Doze) for the apps? That's all?
[Nexus 6  General] Sachin:
Just get the latest factory image & flash it. :eek: