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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zeflun:
My 2 cents.

Completely overpriced: agree (but so have iPhones been for almost a decade now)

No SD card: really... Really in today's day and age with cloud storage or when you can buy a thumb drive to off load your crap to, you guys still think we need that?

No OIS: this one no argument absolutely needed it but if their algorithm can pull it off, it'll be the automatic vs manual transmission argument again. Or electric vs gas. We know who's had the last laugh in both of those.

No water proofing: I didn't need it in the 6P or any other phone and I dought I will need it going forward. We all know 98% of the people only want this so they can shower with their phones.

Design: 100% agree it's horrible. Nothing more.

Camera: from what I've seen its great.

Speakers: I always use headphones, and who the hell do you hate so much that you need to make them listen to what you are listening to.

Last unlimited photo/video storage: this is the whole reason I'm buying this phone. I'm paying $9.99 a month for the storage with Google that's $120 a year or $240 over 2 years that I would save. Making this phone $550 for me, no more than what I payed for the 6P.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
No sd card slot means you have to use data to access those files on line, be it your mobile data or your home internet and a lot of home internet plans have data caps or charge extra for the amount of data. It costs people money and sd card files are a lot more secure and easily accessible without using data. Also accessing online files uses more battery power than accessing files on an sd card.

OIS is a feature most buyers want most people dont like manual transmissions that is why most vehicles come as automatics manuals are cheaper but most women wont shift a manual and some guys wont either. I like a manual but automatics are a lot easier to drive in traffic.

I dont need waterproofing either but yeah people complain because samsung and apple have it. I take care of my phones in a case so I dont need it either, so I agree or people want to make a video where its in their toilet under water lol.

Design as far as looks I dont care too much but the glass back I hate and I like the fingerprint sensor on front so I dont have to blindly fish around for it.

Camera not a big deal to me but many care about it. My unlocked Htc 10 works great for me I just need a bigger screen but Htc wont make a bigger screen model for USA so this is as close to Htc 10 as I could get.

I use bluetooth stereo headset also but at times I do play through the speakers so audio like many people is a big issue more than one speaker, this has been a major thing for Htc phones to have great audio so google must have chose one speaker as I doubt Htc did.

As has been proven the use of on line storage is anything but safe. Having your files protected on sd card is a lot more secure and costs you no data and no extra battery drain to access files on line. I have free on line space with g drive with 100 free gigs that I got through Htc and google play. I also have 5 gigs free with box and 5 gigs free with dropbox. I have never had any need to pay for on line storage and I have tons extra left. But I do not trust on line storage for anything important because it could get hacked or could be lost.

Wow I cant believe you pay that for monthly google on line storage. I have 100 gigs free when I registered my google account on my unlocked Htc 10.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
I love this thread. Created for good, invaded by troll, and we all participate in the trolling lol

I'm super excited for the reviews to start landing. I'm literally checking YouTube everyday.

I've had the 6P since launch and I've loved the phone. I currently have the note 7 and I really like it especially the camera. I was going for a smaller aperture on these Pixel to get those depth in shots that you get with the note.

The Pixel is pricey no doubt but it's up to the individual if they see the value in it.

The "missing flagship features" don't matter to me.

I take my 6P in the shower everyday, never had a problem. It only takes moderate splash damage but I haven't accidentally submerged a phone in like 8 years.

No SD card. Lol, not important to me. I'm not sure what people are storing on their phones that they need an SD card. To be fair I have unlimited data on T-Mobile so I stream all my music. I only store podcasts.

The note 7 speaker is louder than the 6P tbh. Yeah the 6P sounds much better but I'm only listening to podcasts on speaker so I don't care. Headphones for pretty much everything else.

I already get unlimited storage in Google Photos at whatever the quality is and all my pics look fine even on my monitor so I don't care about the free storage.

I haven't been running a custom ROM for a couple of months now and only Pure Nexus prior to that. My days of flashing new roms everyday are behind me so I think 32 GB will suffice.

Yeah the front looks like an iPhone and that chin is lame. People were hating on the 6P when it got introduced and as I've said I love that phone.

What we do get is most of the "flagship features" (including all the ones that are important to me) and the only phone running 7.1 and Google Assistant. Oh and Snapdragon 821 if that even matters lol.

So for me, and must of the people in this thread, this is a great looking option.

For me it's this or the note 7. Nothing else out there that I want.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
So many seem to take offense when anyone makes note of features that are missing or not necessarily premium features of a so called premium device with a premium price. If you like the device more power to you but just because you do not care about the missing features does not that the masses do not. You can post what you like about it and others can post what they do not like. People look at these posts when trying to decide about buying the device or not, so its not fair to make this device seem more than it is and try to make light of what is missing in it, just because those things missing do not matter to you. In all fairness people need to see what the phone really is or isnt for that matter so like it all you want but that is no reason to resort to name calling or put down others who point out what its short comings are. Potential buyers deserve to see the facts about the device and make their own decision and just saying those missing features dont matter to you does not mean they do not matter to the masses.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
That's a completely fair wall of text.

Unless I'm mistaken it's a pretty fair trade off with most any other flagship out their.

Note: has water proofing, 64gb standard, OIS, SD Card, Super AMOLED, Android 6, grace UI

V20: has SD Card, Removable Battery, Quad DAC, Android 7, LG UI

iPhone 7: water proof, no SD card, no Removable Battery, different OS.

Pixel: not water proof, no SD Card, no Removable Battery, Android 7.1, Google Assistant, Daydream, Snapdragon 821.

No reviews yet on the Pixel so since unknowns but I don't see any glaring weekness.

The masses will make some sacraficee no matter which flagship they choose as far as I can tell.

We had the luxury of a discounted midrange/ low end flagship Google phone the last several years and now their is some blowback on the phone being top dollar.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Anyone interested you can buy the verizon version with 32 gig you can get it from best buy for $31 a month payment plan or on a 2 year contract with the phone subsidized for $299.99 and you get a $100 best buy E gift card, they list it will be emailed to you with in 48 hours of your device activation. You also get the google chromecast for free. Note the 2 year contract they add on a $40 subsidized cost, but to be honest you could buy it on 2 year contract for $299.99 then activate get your $100 e gift card through best buy then close the account and pay the $350 early termination fee. You would get stuck with the $40 activation fee but I think you would save money doing this lol. But remember this would be the verizon version with the locked bootloader and no promises that it could be cracked and honestly there would not be much in it for devs to crack it bein g you can buy the unlocked version but hey just thought I would toss out that little tid bit lol. I thought about it lol but locked bootloader was a deal breaker for me :(

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Its cool that you put both good and bad. I"am sure a lot of people will find all that interesting, appreciate your posting those specs, its a lot to know or look up. Checkout what I posted next about buying at best buy. They have a good deal if you dont mind a locked bootloader which I would go that route but I cant deal with a locked phone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
Yeah best buy has a good deal save the Verizon part haha.

Google store has three free Daydream headset so there's that lol.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zeflun:
Yeah I have to agree with evodon, I have T-Mobile as well with unlimited and no cap 100mb connection at home. So no worries on data usage.

Evodon how are you getting unlimited storage with Google now?

But I love the fingerprint sensor on the back I can never go back to a fingerprint sensor on the front now. Yeah occasionally I have to pick up my phone but it's not a big issue, I can just type in my passcode.

Again is to each his/her own. But hey if this turns out to be a dud that means higher demand for 6P making it easier to sell at a nice profit.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
I don't know. When in Google Photos under backup and sync looking at Upload Size. I can set it to High Quality (free unlimited storage). I thought everyone has that option.

I think the new feature supports original quality of which I only have 15 GB of free space. But I just always use high quality and I can't tell the difference in the pictures. I have an HDR camera but haven't used it in like 2 years lol. Just always use my phone.

Also your right I prefer having the finger print sensor in the rear of the phone.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zeflun:
Lol I can't tell the difference either but my ocd keeps saying that big file size matters. I've only used it twice to get actual prints. I guess that's why I have over 150gb in storage with full videos.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
I'm not arguing any of the facts. They are what they are. But do the same posters have to argue and post about them over and over and over?

The features are what they are. Those are facts.

How important the missing features are to you, or if them being missing disappoints you is opinion.

The opinion has been expressed, and doesn't have to be repeated every 5 posts... In 5 different threads... Once you do that it is trolling, and no longer discussion.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] USMC retired:
Im Out

After looking at the phone it's being discarded for being ugly in general, the bezels are huge which IMO should be filled with a bigger display, I've heard it's going to be almost Impossible to root if it can be rooted at all, and finally I'm not dropping $750.00 for a phone that probably costs maybe $150.00 to make.

So my Nexus 6 doesn't even have a scratch on it, and works like the day I bought it. So long Pixie
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Someone that just keeps posting complaining about others posting facts is nothing more than a troll. If you like it and want to be a fanboy you can and your not caring about missing features is once again your opinion. If you do not like facts being listed that are not in favor of fanbuyism then you have the option of minding your own business and stop complaining or simply go elsewhere.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
You've posted your facts eleven times in this thread. You are entitled to your opinion but don't you think we got it? It's time to give everyone a break.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
And you are entitled to your opinion but you have no control over what anyone else posts. If you do not like it you can go elsewhere or worry about yourself.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ikenvape:
October 21. It seems some are slated for Nov. Depends if it is for a 2nd wave preorder or just customer cancellation. Just speculation of course
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Just be glad they dont use digital river lol. Htc uses them and they send orders out as they choose and not in correct order as many got their phones before people that had placed orders before them, which that causes a real stink with good reason. And digital rivers customers service is very poor.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisjcks:
Just me who's excited about the battery life the Pixels should give? :laugh:

I'm connected to a VPN 24/7 which I know drains battery - This big boost in battery life should be awesome for me :D
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] abear182:
I don't see the gains in battery life being that big. But depends what your coming from.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Probably about the same as the Htc 10 battery life, even being a bigger battery because amoled displays usually use more power than lcd displays do.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Which sucks compared to the Edge.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I highly doubt that, as Sense is a lot faster than touch wiz. Sense is a lot smoother and closer to stock android.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I own both so I'm speaking from experience. S7 Edge battery lasts for ages, the HTC 10 is poor in comparison.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
This is from phone arena " HTC moved to a larger, 3,000 mAh cell with its flagship 10, but the larger Galaxy S7 edge has an even bigger juicer at 3,600mAh. And while the Galaxy S7 edge fared a bit better in our custom battery life test, the difference was minuscule, so it's fair to say that they're rather evenly matched. " And the Htc 10 is faster than the edge.

My Htc 10 is s-off unlocked and running viper10 so its as smooth as butter and my battery lasts and lasts and Htc 10 is 3.0 fast charger compliant it charges up way faster than 2.0
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Phone Arena :laugh:

I'm not here to say what you should own. I own both and the HTC 10 battery is trash compared to my s7 edge. Edge gets over 6/7 hours screen on time my htc gets 4.5ish. It's being sold soon as Im thinking of getting a pixel but battery is a worry. Only phones with good battery are the Edge and the iPhone 7 plus.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Everyone has their own opinion. My girlfriend her best friend has an edge and hers has the lag that everyone seems to talk about with samsung phones. I just know my Htc 10 and my girlfriends Htc 10 both out last the battery in her best friends edge. The edge does have a lot bigger battery and is a bigger phone but that amoled display eats up a lot of power, more than lcd displays do. My Motorola Nexus 6 has the same bigger size battery but the samsung amoled display eats up battery power on it but my 10 still beats it on battery life. My Htc 10 is tweaked with the custom rom Viper10 with all the bloat removed not disabled but removed. What rom are you running ?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Stock, on both. Haven't felt the need to use custom ROM in ages. I may do soon mind.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Most samsung users say theirs works great until they get to that lag state, which they can do a factory reset and it gets better but but they say it always seem to come back. You might regret getting rid of the 10 because the 10 will probably get Nougat a lot faster than the edge will. I personally never have any problem with battery because I keep mine charged up and even 5 minutes on the rapid charger and you can be up 25% of your battery charge at least and 15 minutes and get pretty close to a full charge so my battery basically never goes under 70% and 3.0 quick charge is very handy with it you do not really need a bigger battery it just makes your device bigger and heavier than it needs to be.

And on the iphone 7 your talking a lot lower tech such as a 1080p display, where most flagship phones have a QHD display and an 8 core processor, and 4 gigs of ram where ip7 has what two gigs of ram ? I suppose it would get good battery life with only 1080p and no QHD or amoled display.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrvirginia:
Good to see you too, mate. Not sure what I'm doing in regards to this one. Currently waiting on reviews I suppose.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
Damn this phone is still out of stock checking the google page since 5 days.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Fenny:
I am pretty excited about the CPU/chipset in this one.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
You should have seen the debacle that was the Nexus 6 release and availability. Everyone was like oh hey they'll get their act together when the 6P comes...wrong, almost as bad.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wtherrell:
A "Healthy" discussion should include both pros and cons I would like to think. And that's what we have here!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] smithinsundar:
Is google store available in dubai ?

How are u planning to purchase a pixel there? Am in Bahrain and could not figure out a solution yet .
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
I knwo this compay they will buy for me and send it to me they will charge just $50 as a service charge u have to send them money thru paypal or by credit card payment.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] InfiniteReality:
I have an S7E and totally agree battery life is junk. You'd think being a newer phone, stuff would be better but I was wrong. I miss my 6p, should have never sold it. I can't wait to ditch this Samsung for a PIxel XL.

on a side note my S7E screen has pixel issues (ironic isn' it) on the lower right side of screen when it's on. Never once been dropped or abused but will have to send in for warranty once I get the XL in my hands. This will my last Samsung for sure.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
finally bought Pixel xl 128gb really excited will be shipped on 26th ive heard the speaker is really good
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bajasur:
Anyone seen info online about when pixel XL will become available again on Google Store.?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
you can register yourself on www.nowinstock.net they will email you if its in stock and keep checking every 30 seconds.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AndrasLOHF:
As much as I was against getting this device due to the price I've really grown tired of the throttling in my 6P and decided to pull the trigger on the Pixel XL. After seriously considering the iPhone 7+ I just can't make myself choose a high priced phone on a high priced cell plan. I've really enjoyed being a Project Fi user and wanted to stay the course with Google so hopefully this new 821 won't make me want to throw the device anytime I'm actually using it while charging, in a hot environment(ie everywhere in Southeast Louisiana), or when in an area with terrible signal. Thinking everything over the only thing I'll miss from the 6P is the stereo speakers when watching videos. Pixel XL here I come.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jsunn:
Here is the first review I've seen. Not sure if this belongs in a new thread?

Google Pixel review: A very good phone by Google
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kdwolf85:
I received notification about an hour ago that my card used to buy my Pixel XL has been charged. I checked the Google Store account and it says the order has been closed.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] crowsnestitsupport:
I've used my Verizon 128gb silver one for a day and half now and I'm totally in love!! It's definitely worth the hype!! Coming from the Nexus 6p, 5x, iPhone 6s plus and HTC 10 this thing checks all the boxes!! My only 2 or 3 small complaints would be the external speakers when compared to those of the shamu and angler... and the huge dead spot between the bottom edge of the screen and the bottom of the phone, at least put a front facing speaker or finger print reader in that empty spot... and lastly the power button and finger print reader are a tad higher than is comfortable to reach at first.. but all very minor things.. very very impressed that I have a Verizon/Android phone and there is ZERO Verizon anywhere!!!!! No bloat, no boot animation and nothing on the outside of the phone!! Just straight pure awesome Google!! The speed, fluidity and general user experience on this thing surpass any phone I've ever used! And the camera, oh boy!! That thing is legit guys!! Hands down the best camera on the market! Simply amazing! And all the other things work great too, wifi calling, VoLTe, video calling, visual VM built into the dialer etc etc. They all just work, oh and the new dialer rocks too!! So yes, I'd say it's a win and worth the dough!!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Zlatomip:
Yes! Correct!

You can absolutly free get network unlock code.

To use any provider anywhere in the world.

So it means that S7 Active is not only for AT&T... - it's for everybody!

Just visit this page

This is OFFICIAL! That's why Support Clean IMEI ONLY and Out Of Contract ONLY.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Kalti94:
Can anyone confirm this? Before I buy a locked S7 active and it won't work....

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] staffeyx:
Yes it seems that way. I'm using an unlocked S7 Active with another provider in Sweden. I didn't unlock it myself though (it came unlocked when I bought it second-hand). This thread has some more info:

https://xdaforums.com/s7-active/how-to/s7-active-switch-att-confirmed-t3585857
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] faronium:
At the very worst you will have to buy an unlock code. I've done it twice for these phones and it worked both times. It cost somewhere near $20 US. So, you wont be stuck with an unusable phone, you just might have to pay a bit to use it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] CFoote:
FYI, got my unlock code from AT&T and their instructions (below) do not work on my S7A on Nougat

1. Power off the device and remove the SIM card.

2. Power on the device.

3. Enter #0111*, the unlock code, and #. The device cycles off and back on.

Note: You are allowed five attempts to unlock before your device permanently locks to the AT&T network.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Ultima99:
I've unlocked a couple this way. Never had an issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] UnableToResetOldProfile:
Free at the Samsung site.

If you have a valid IMEI and the phone is from the USA, the AT&T site will unlock it for use with any carrier (GSM Carries not included).

The response time suggested was 24hrs, but I submitted @ 12:30am, the server must have been slow as I recieved my unlock code in 15 min.

https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/

100% worked!

:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] PhilHodge:
Got the same result. Didn't work on nougat. So now what?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] UnableToResetOldProfile:
Now you have to pay for an unlock reset with an unlock code.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] alllrite:
Unlock code doesn't work
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] CFoote:
No solution, I haven't bothered pursuing it as I don't have a need to put this phone on another carrier.