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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] gee2012:
I think this is allready known by people that look further then a Samsung phone and tech insiders. Some marketing by Honor wouldn`t hurt though to further the brand`s name and let the general public get to know Honor.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] vsriram92:
The most attractive thing is the look of the phone.

Many people use iphone to show off others.

If we get most attractive look to show off, who will miss it? Especially the Saffire blue color is of top notch.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Revontheus:
I think its one of the best when It comes to Price to Quality Ratio, my brother is enjoying his Honor 8 alot and its a good package overall given its Price :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
This model is very good indeed. The only thing preventing it from getting a bigger acceptance is price: it´s too close to OP3 and Axon7 with better SOC´s (single thread and GPU), 4K screen and recording, OIS, sound, etc.

If Huawei manages to bring H8 down to 350€/£310 or lower, to what H7 was at time of launch, then it will make an absolute no-brainer. Until then there will be articles like "Honor 8, flagship killer?" because being in the same price range of mentioned flagship killers.

Honor 8 should be positioned as an upper middle class device as the specs indicate.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] vsriram92:
Hoping to see a competitive pricing in, price sensitive markets like indian market.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Every market is price sensitive for various reasons. But I guess Huawei will ride the novelty factor and make as much money as they can with H8.

When the novelty goes, in a couple of months we shall see either discount coupons or bundle promotions, at Vmall. Probably December like they did last year for H7.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Absolutely right, Axon7 an 1+3 do offer more for the same price, plus they also have custom ROMs unlike honor 8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Hell Mi5 regular offers more than H8 at 100$ lower pricing.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
But it's not available in the US (officially)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Depends on your preference. Personally I wouldn't sacrifice software stability, better quality of construction, better customer support, better camera, expandable storage and better network support of Huawei in favour of a faster Mi5.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
I do agree, mi5 had some issues with software and hardware
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
With that you added nothing besides to your post count. Nice going.:silly:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] vsriram92:
I don't prefer MI because of its build quality and personal experience of the problems faced within 1 month of purchase of RedMI Note 3.

However still people are going crazy on MI devices. :(
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
We have both(me n my brother in law) . 1 week of use and Huawei had scratches all over the phone. And I see I'm not the only one. What quality are we talking about? there is 0 screen protection. Both carried in same conditions.

Aside from by miles better screen,charging(and charger options) sound, marginal in battery, community support(that doesn't exist in huaweii)

He'll i even add software cuz MIUI 8 is by my preference miles ahead of Emui.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] theorlyowl:
There is nothing like the Honor-experience to me.

I ordered the Honor 8 Blue on Monday on vmall, it got delivered 10 am on tuesday... insane!

Its unicolor, bezel has same color as the back and front.

Also, if you turn down animation speeds to 0,5 in developer settings, this phone seems lightning fast.

Benchmark scores dont matter to me, the Kirin 950 runs every app that i used to use on iphone 6s and Samsung S7 equally well.

One of the few things i want for the Honor 9 next year, would be Dual Sim slot with the capability of using a micro-SD card at the same time, like Motorola G4 can. And at least 64GB internal memory. I know there will be a 64GB model Honor 8 in the EU soon, but why not sell it at release? ...
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] BBLN:
Back or front? The back seems to scratch pretty easily, but the front seems ok. Phone dropped from sitting right on front and nothing seems scratched at all. (Actually it fall on rocks! I was impressed)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Actually, the back is easy to scratch unlike the front.

Luckily, an honor employee said he will forward this to honor. I hope they fix this in the next batch
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] BBLN:
Yup. But on my Blue honor you hardly notice the back scratches, I guess it might be more noticeable on the less glossy colors.

How did you contact the honor employee? Are they still active on XDA?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
They're active, and one quoted me when I mentioned the issue and said that he will forward it to honor
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] vsriram92:
Honor Employees are active on XDA and in their official Honor Clubs. They get the requests, feedback and gives support through this.

For detailed description on how Honor India gets the feedback from its users check out here - http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/how-to/emui-requirements-survey-suggest-t3472326
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Sorry, when I said you, I was meaning any of us consumers.

I go way back in Xiaomi history.

I agree a case is a must-have. The phone is beautiful but needs some extra protection. And if I'm not mistaken, there is a specific warranty for the glass front and rear cover.

As for the screen, personally I don't care about it´s protection as my common sense tells me to put tempered glass in all my devices. It´s a way to save some €€€ if I drop them. So GG4 is good to have but if the phone falls and cracks the screen there's no point of having it.

Like I said, SD820 with all it´s perks doesn´t compensate the downside of Mi5, for me. But it comes down to what each one valuates the most.

Good luck with that community support. I gave it up. Chasing after china-bugs and try to fix the major screw-ups the chinese developers do. I´ve been an active Miui supporter for years and never saw so many people (including me) so happy with fixing battery drain, overheat, buggy GPS. Not small things, no. Major deal-breakers.

Also as soon as a new flagship is release, forget about updates for the previous one. Also china developers focusing on adding new stuff (Miui is very feature-rich) but not paying ANY attention to the angry users complaining weeks after weeks over basic stuff that SHOULD work. Even the updates are not consistent as a newer device may get updates sooner or the other way around. There is no logic and Xiaomi policy regarding software was drawn after lots of party-drinks.

But hey, don't trust my word, checkout Miui China forums, if you haven't already, especially the reactions after a official release for all the devices.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
both, you have multiple threads both here and on Android central on that subject. Even in some reviews. We can't talk bout quality build in 21st century without specified protection on glass.

And as for tempered glass I didn't have it or need it with my Galaxy Nexus and Xperia Z3C. It is not a must have on a quality made phone. I'm not paying 400$+ for a phone that I like just to armor it up like I'm heading to Syria.

Regarding community support kernel is out and official cyanogen is coming. So I'll take that luck with community.

As I said,since having access to both daily, I can't see any reason to go with H8. Even at same price point let alone +100$.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Is there a github for honor 8 (from official CM) ?!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Dunno,I check dev section of XDA daily and all i see is moaning how huaweii scammed people by promising 3rd party dev support in conjunction with XDA....
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Too bad it's the case now, I hope it changes soon
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] DarkGuyver:
Because you get flagship specs and a good looking device for a very reasonable price.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Actually, you get only better camera and design compared to other 400$ phones (axon 7, oneplus 3)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Actually I found Kernel source released from Huawei and active ROM development. It may not be available 3rd party ROM´s yet, but thei´re being developed.

Really? You based that in what? What is better in the H8 camera?

2K recording? 4K recording? OIS? Low light photo?

Some tasks are better done with H8 camera (great detail, great colour), but it suffer from too many missing features. That´s why it should never be at the same price level as those flagship killers.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] smartgid:
And it doesn't have US-compatible LTE bands (as a consequence of not being marketed for US customers).
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
It lacks 4K and OIS, but camera quality is the best, check all the reviews of honor 8 and they'll say exactly what I wrote.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] HonorUSA_Eric:
Camera review

We appreciate your review on the Honor 8's camera. Here at Honor, we truly care about our customers' comments. We'll definitely forward your feedback about the 8's camera not having your desired specs as we're always looking to improve our products. (ED)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] umbrokhan:
1st place) Motorola Moto Z Play,

2nd) ZTE Axon7,

3rd) Alcatel Idol 4s,

4th) Oneplus 3

5th) Huawei Honor 8

all 5 phones are best bang for your buck.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mwatson:
I had the S7 edge since launch in April and recently got a refund due to Samsung's inability to fix it. Samsung's customer service is the worst I have experienced.

With the money back in my account I thought I'd give the H8 a go as it is the best design..... Ever! They just need to lose the branding off the front. The camera has blown me away! I'd say it is better than the S7e. There is more detail and less processing. To my eyes ( and I'm a pixel peeper) the Honor 8 has a better camera. I'm also very impressed with the. Battery life. I get way more life out of this in comparison to the s7e and that has a bigger battery!

I've read a lot of negatively and EMUI, but I find it refreshing. After owning HTC, Samsung and Nexus devices, which has got a but boring over the years, EMUI is new and different. It's slick and has some in depth optimisations.

I could go on, but the H8 is an amazing phone and I look forward to the H9!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
We definitely aren't reading the same reviews and the short comparison I've made from a borrowed unit support what I said.

The camera is great, but it can't keep up to the other flagship killers. Yes, is very close and up there and even might be neglected. I personally would as the camera is a good upgrade from my already great H7. But accurately it's just a tiny notch lower than the others. There was some noise in HDR and low light not as present as in other phones. But nothing that can't be corrected in future updates. Unlike 2K, 4K and OIS.

That's why I insist on a lower H8 price to avoid direct comparisons with OP3 and A7.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Yea? How it's going with that?

Any custom kernel or rom?

Regards from official CM and custom kernel :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
I don't see custom ROMs for now :(
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Development is stalled. Now the attention is on H8. This might be a big turnoff if support is short. OnePlus seems to lead the way in this matter.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
This is a flagship device. Honor needs to help the developers so that advanced users can unleash the full potential of this beast.:D
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Honor 8 was dead in terms of development even before XDA announced they will help it development by co-operating with Huawei.

Kirin CPU is a rocky ground to walk on bearfooted,especially considering HiSilicon won't reveal all data needed for devs.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
But if they released everything needed, we still have hope right?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
By reading "source code" thread i'm under the impression some libraries are missing...
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
I didn't got that impression but I might be wrong. I do believe Qualcomm made a better job in that area. It also helps focus on SOC only whereas Huawei and Samsung want to manufacture and control all the parts of the device.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
If your impression is right....that's way more ****ty issue than if my impression is right. It means no1 wants to hustle with development of Honor 8.

Just a quick comparision with Mi5...they released source code but with incomplete libraries,which made boot up impossible. Once the community completed the libs,there were 5 custom kernels out and 5 custom ROMs in next 48 hours. We're having a baby boom there in "roms,kernels and development" sectiuon lol....

...here I check on H8 in hope to ease the pain of my brother in law who picked H8 :fingers-crossed:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
These kinds of stuff are the reason advanced users switch to a more user friendly brand.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Oh please don't go down the Xiaomi route. Been there and it's a complete nightmare. Chinese Xiaomi developers are no good and the brand don't give a f§©¤ about customer feedback and satisfaction.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Dude, I'm writing from OFFICIAL CM build What Chinese developers r u talking about? Check the section before u flame.

Development is in full swing and has NOTHING to do with China (except the base device lol)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
I go way back. European development has to dwell with bad original code. You probably haven't follow their forums for that long and/or you experience is limited to owning 1 device from them.

My experience is user complaints about overheating, battery drain, FC, missing features to properly use hardware and they just choosing to ignore and develop something else.

Just because you use a 3rd party stable (?) ROM doesn't contradict Xiaomi original bad code and lack of customer support.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
Yes,first device from them and i have no overheating,battery drain(achieving 7h with gaming),not 1 FC till now. But that's not the point.

Take a look at their development section. Development is the "holy cow" of every smartphone. And it's not European development,it's a development of World.

And even Cyanogenmod company took the phone under their wing once the kernel has been released and made funcional. Something H8 will never enjoy. Unfortunately,cuz their primary modified OS EMUI is a criminal deed that some1 should answer to customers.

And once I use official cyanogenmod,fully stable,with kernel that optimizes phone to a higher level,I don't need Xiaomi original bad code and their lack of customer support. That is the whole point of dev community. They enable you to get rid of ****ty,official softwares.

I see u havent had much Nexus phones in your life or any connection to development whatsoever.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Do this mean that there's still hope in honor 8?!

I'm getting one soon, and I'm still learning the basics of custom ROMs
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Ascertion:
If Honor really wants to improve developer relations, they should provide sufficient kernel sources and build an AOSP-based community ROM for devs to work with. Otherwise the custom ROM development on a Kirin SoC will not work.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Go check the discussion about source code, svetius posted some great news
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
That was great news indeed. But I was wondering why DU and not CM. :confused:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Ascertion:
It's a good start. Hopefully we'll see more action here then.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Wrong again. Nexus 5 and 7 (2012), besides other very old devices that still are supported by developers. You just can't help yourself from talking about what you don't know.

I live in Europe so I have to rely on European adaptations. Things like GPS settings that original global releases don't address.

Sure, I can roll up my sleeves and do it.

Sure, I can go to Xiaomi.eu and get the latest European adaptation.

But I paid to get official support. Not to rely on volunteers who will develop in their free time and until they see fit with no obligation to do so.

But I paid to get updated software (there is no consistency in updates and previous generation either don't get or get a very late update, but you'll learn that with time if the company continues with current policy).

But I paid for a unlocked device and don't want the brand, sometime along the line, to release an update that makes 3rd party development impossible (I don't know if you heard about that). And only after months of struggle the situation was reverted.

So bottom line is, if you're happy with your Xiaomi, that's good for you. If you use exclusively 3rd party ROMs and are happy, good too. If you don't care about customer support from brand, great.

I personally expect to get what I paid for. And with Xiaomi phones I get amazing hardware and crippling software. And since part of the phone's upfront price covers future software development and support, they rip-off customers. Simple as that. Yes I get that you don't care about it.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
I'm excited, my honor 8 is on the way :laugh:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troublecro:
I live in Europe too but i don't have to rely on anything but Cyanogenmod releasing their official build,that is in more than few cases,more stable,faster and better than anything offcial. And WHEN official sources say NO MORE SUPPORT,I have Cyanogenmod to continue supporting my device.

That is what certain phones have...and certain don't

And no,I don't pay to get an official support,no1 in his right mind that is member of XDA developers forum doesn't pay to use his phone WITH official support. We pay for the phone which will have best community support. Again....that is what certain phones have...and certain don't

Hell I had every Nexus phone since S series and replaced their,only stock Android ROM you'll ever find with something of my choice. I'm not the sheep,I won't be told THIS IS BEST FOR YOU THIS YOU WILL USE! No,get your ****ty softwer out of my hardware! That's the XDA spirit.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] HonorUSA_Eric:
Honor 8 Purchase

We're glad to hear that you purchased the Honor 8. If you haven't already, we advise checking out the "Capture smiles" mode, which automatically takes a picture once a smile is detected. You can enable this setting in the camera app settings of your device. (ED)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Tmobilefan906:
Brat. Haha
[Off-topic] Chr0nicDreamz:
http://m.koco.com/money/us-warns-samsung-washing-machine-owners-after-explosion-reports/41864842

Apparently, Samsung has their hands full at this point lol.
[Off-topic] boogsta161:
I'm not a Samsung loyalist, however I've fallen victim to their shenanigans twice this year. I not only purchased a Note 7 (returned it due to explosions) but also have a Samsung washer..... I'm seriously reconsidering them as a 'reliable' brand. I haven't picked up a "fixed" Note 7 yet, and I'm not sure I will. The LG v20 is looking better. (IF I can stomach this S7 (flat) long enough for the v20 to release.)

I'm also going to follow up on this washer issue... Stay tuned.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Yea, they'll do that if you load them above the weight limit... :rolleyes: We're all tech savvy enough to know what happens if you overload the weight capacity on a spinning, rotating motor....
[Off-topic] Chr0nicDreamz:
I agree, and commonsense is not so common.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
LOL I shudder to think what would happen had they been making planes or hybrid cars. Quality testing department seems to be non existent at Samsung. [MENTION=3264549]ShadowLea[/MENTION] thoughts?
[Off-topic] Chr0nicDreamz:
I think we would be in some serious trouble. On a side note, I hear apple is having issues with its new improved version of the ibomb. The iPhone 7 has been exploding too.
[Off-topic] ViTALiTY00:
Definitely not going to buy one for my parents on xmas.
[Off-topic] Chr0nicDreamz:
I was actually thinking about buying one, and their new fridge. The last thing I need is for my fridge to turn into a transformer or something. So I'll keep it simple and stick with whirlpool, or Frigidaire.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Those cars would probably come equipped with a fire siren for a horn... :laugh:

While their QA department certainly seems to have disappeared overnight, it's more a classic case of the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. (Also known as frequency illusion. You know, when you buy a car and suddenly see the same type everywhere.)

You would never have heard about the washing machine if the Note 7 didn't have the spontaneous combustion issue. But now people are all jumping on the bandwagon, hoping to catch a bit of free cash from the court cases. After all, it's easier to win when you can point at something else as evidence. "Yes, my washing machine exploded, see, it happens to their phones too!"

Exploding washing machine? They added too much weight over the safety limit.

Note 2 burst into flames? Yea, it's a 4 year old device, there's a 99% chance they used a 3rd party cheap battery. Those always leak.

Tablet started smoking on a plane? Yea, the moron wedged it between the seats and then changed the seat position, squashing the tablet. Lithium is a flammable gas!

Nearly every other Samsung device in history (apart from the Note 7) that caught fire had a user-based cause.

Still, I find it utterly hilarious. We warned them time and again about prioritizing Apple over their own customers, and this is a typical case of karma. The financial costs of this mess are a thousand times higher than the money they hoped to earn from beating Apple to the release.

And do they learn? Of course not, now the S8 is going to get an early release to make up for it. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Hold on if they put too much weight over the safety limit then how the hell are they allowed to complain? The machine exploded due to their own stupidity, not manufacturing defect. I mean sure this is 2016 where no one reads manuals but you should have some sense not to stuff the machine with a lot of clothes! As for the Note 2 incident I completely agree that its probably using third party potato battery.

I mean I have my first device still which released on 2012 or 2013 and recently it's battery was swollen to the point that it would have exploded any minute, and as this device is old I didn't have a choice but to get a third party battery. Also who the hell decides to stuff their phone in tight spaces?! You aren't suppose to squish batteries FFS! I mean really do people today forget that phones are a ticking time bomb? With phones having Lithium-ion batteries they should know that these things can explode under excessive heat. Especially if the circuitry inside the battery that prevents overcharging is damaged which is most likely easy to happen in these cheap third party batteries. It doesn't help either if you are using potato quality cables. Like you said, people are just finding reasons to hate Samsung now that its reputation is tarnished abit. Just like the media did for Qualcomm for its 810 issues.

They were in such a hurry to win the release race against Apple they ended up bargaining more than they hoped for. Had they put the time and effort instead on focusing the quality of the device rather than how quickly it releases, they wouldn't have to spend $1 billion for this mess. Thats not all, they'll have losses from the fact that people might just return their Note 7s and get something else. Where I live(Middle East), many people I know who are loyal to Samsung decided its enough and decided to get their money back and buy iPhone 7 so congratulations Samsung, you gave more customers to Apple(atleast in Middle East anyway).