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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deeco7:
The prices are obnoxious to say the least. If I was to get one I'll probably go with the 32GB Black, as they are offering 'Free Unlimited Backup', but curious as there is no mention of lifetime.

Anyone know if there will be financing option in the UK and if the VR headset comes with pre-order?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
We can blame the poor sterling in part for the prices

Last year it was roughly $1.70 to the pound, and now it's $1.30, so it makes a massive difference to the end price to us
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
No mention of getting any kind of voucher for a Daydream View when I ordered via Google - All you can do for a Daydream View in the UK is join a list to show your interest.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Both of those are US only I'm afraid
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
F*** it, Ordered!

32gb black from cpw, should be here on the 21st!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xryptic:
Just wondering, any downsides to ordering from CPW vs. Google play store? CPW is still a reputable company right? I did see it as 1 of the authorized resellers of the Pixel during the Google event.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sherlock5545:
Same here. Also £50 Play Store voucher included apparently. I'm not sure, but I might as well try and sell it off to get £50 extra off. I normally buy apps only when I need to, so I don't really see any use of having £50 sitting in my Google Account doing nothing.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] abear182:
Just curious where you are getting the 21st from? CPW website still says 20th
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ralph78:
Too expensive, I'm sticking to my OP3.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Daveoc64:
The prices are actually surprisingly fair.

If you take the current conversion rate between USD and GBP, then factor in the 20% VAT on top, the UK prices are only about £10 over the US price.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Yep, I noticed that, the pricing is very fair, just unfortunately at the mercy of the poor exchange rate this year
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Just Pre-Ordered, kinda left the community after I received my Nexus 6 but will check out this thread!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deeco7:
No downsides to my knowledge, in fact it's more better. Unlike Google store which always fkup with orders, I think it's wise to go with CPW or EE, they even include £50 Play voucher and shipping earlier than Google store I believe.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
Pre Ordered direct from EE on an upgrade, got my early upgrade fee wiped off and they also offer the £50 voucher. The gent suggested they're being delivered starting from the 20th.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Mine is showing delivery on the 21st ?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iandpike:
Stumped up the cash today with CPW, gone for 128GB in Silver on an upgrade on O2 - Delivered on 20th to store. It is more expensive then I planned, but thinking its worth it.

Love my Nexus 6, but time to upgrade, will miss the wireless charging option. Hoping USB-C is worth it.

Looking at the cases and tempered glass on Amazon, hoping they get delivered around the time.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xryptic:
Ok thanks for hint.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
Having worked for Carphone and having Purchased from Google direct I would argue that the downside is that you don't receive the stellar warranty service, I had my locked 6P with Dev Preview lock up and boot loop and they sent me a new device next day and provided postage for the bricked one to send at my convenience. With Carphone unless it's within the first 14 days the device will have to be sent off and optimistically it takes a week and it means going into those infernal stores.

Had I not been due my upgrade I would've used the Google Store.

But hopefully you won't ever have problems with a Pixel :fingers-crossed:
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
It's interesting you say that, as its something I've been wondering about for these pixels

In the UK you can go back to the place you bought an item to claim on warranty work.

Historically, if you bought a Nexus from Google you dealt with Google's support/warranty package, whereas if you bought it from anywhere else they went directly to the phone manufacturer's (lg, huawei etc.), and that's where the delay arises

But with these phones being sold under Google's name, by rights you should be able to go back to them direct and. If not carphone warehouse would lease with whoever handles and their warranty work and may be quicker
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Have we got to the part where we are ordering Cases? Anyone waiting to get the Google ones?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
For every manufacturer including Apple Carphone's warranties are RTB which can be any Carphone store, the device is logged in on the system and sent off for repair. In the past for people with iPhones we always suggested going to the apple store as they exchange the device on site rather than having to wait a week or more for the original device to be repaired. It's totally up to Google whether they handle the warranty returns, Huawei for example refuse to take them directly, probably because they don't have a repairer in the UK. One of the first questions Google asked me was whether I had bought directly from them and proceeded with the devices IMEI etc. with the phone having inbuilt support I would hope they can handle returns directly regardless of the phone's origin but that remains to be seen. What I can say for definite is that if purchased from Google the RMA process is incredibly fast and smooth with a UK call centre.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Just checked my Google Store order, and it's moved from "Pre-Ordered" to "Pending"

God knows what that means..... but it's changed!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] abear182:
Same with my 128gb Black XL :D I hope this comes before 22nd October from Google I would prefer to deal with Google but if I have to go down the CPW route I will.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] siniux:
Any news regarding pre-order on one of the european Amazons?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
I like the look of a couple of those art cases from Google but I do love a nude phone despite the risk...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
I always run my phones naked, and just use a fitbag pouch

Super premium quality
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
I used a handmade leather pouch/wallet combo for a while with my 6P but it was always a pain getting the pouch out, then the phone and putting the pouch somewhere whilst using the phone. In the end I reconfigured my pockets and my nude phone goes in with the soft leather wallet and all my keys on the other side.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kboya:
After much thought over the last few days I cancelled my order with the GStore. The more I looked at the handsets (both Pixel and XL) and features the more I came to the conclusion that neither is worth it. YMMV and I'm not trying to say otherwise.

Throughout the Nexus line I avoided the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 6 (even though Moto was then making excellent handsets it was just too big), and ditched the N5 very quickly (mainly for its poor battery and camera). The N6P is still good, but a little too large for me and will suffice for a while longer, especially as I switch back and forth between that and an OP3.

Enjoy the Pixel XL ride, folks.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
You're not wrong definitely not worth the price tag, everyone agrees with you in that.

I thought apple were taking the biscuit but google have for once suppressed them. Makes want to say screw you google I'm going over to apple.

Then again apple have been ripping of consumers far longer and really set an awful trend of ripping their customers a new one.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
I was actually in looking at the IPhone 7s today. That's how sickened I feel with the Pixel pricing.... and I hate Iphones. The Pixel just isn't worth the UK price!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisjcks:
That makes no sense.

Pixel isn't worth it but you look at iPhones? - eh?

If what you're judging the pixel against is an iPhone, the Pixels are worth it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
I uhaven't had an IPhone since the 3g. I'm sickened by the Price and general lack of features in the Pixel and "a look" in the Apple store at the 7s. That's where it stopped lol. I'll stick with my 6P and buy an HDR TV for £800.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
Hi all. I preordered mine on the morning of the 5th from EE as an upgrade. Anyone know if the bootloader will be locked? Also, how quick have EE been in the past with rolling out nexus updates. Just curious incase bootloader is locked and I'm unable to flash a non EE stock UK ROM. Cheers.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] akhan47:
Upgraded to a Pixel XL through CPW on O2 today. They were even nice enough to reduce the upfront cost and throw in a portable charger :)

Expected to arrive on launch day
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Carrier handsets generally do have the bootloader locked - it's so that users like us can't flash custom ROMs to get things like tethering working
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
See I'm on the opposite path, I had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 6, so technically I've never had a good value Nexus, and all my others were HTC and Sony so to me the price is just the price, never had high specs for $400.

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Don't think the UK carriers had their own versions so the update was just the update, a carrier not being happy would stop them all being pushed out not just that network, the issue is more that the Carrier will know you unlocked the phone, even if you relock it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
I guess I'm not too bothered about the bootloader being locked. More concerned about getting updates when Google release them and not have to wait for carrier to approve. Heres hoping the ROM is stock and not EE modified.

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That's reassuring . So those nexus owners in the past, despite having locked bootloaders, still had stock ROMs without EE modifications allowing Google Android OTA updates as soon as they were released?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
I wouldn't worry even when the update is pushed you could be one of those unlucky one who have to wait, there was never a guarantee that it would be available to you straight away anyway.

With the Dev versions of android they did come straight away but that was a smaller sample size for the servers to deal with. With the Pixels updates happening in the background I don't know how this is going to work, hopefully more like the later.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Case has arrived. Next to Nexus 6 case for comparison.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] abear182:
Slight change on the Google Store page a lot of the models now have 'Dispatches by October 20th' now listed. Apart from the 128gb XL models.

Sounds like Google Store Order should arrive around the same time as CPW orders.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Aston Martin:
Im due my upgrade from a nexus 6, Vodafone keep replying "check coming-soon on the site"

That helps nobody.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hutzdani:
I ordered my 6P via CPW and it came one release day, unlocked bootloader and have been flashing ever since, Im 99.9% sure their stock at CPW is just stock from google and all your getting is a EE sim card in the package when it arrives, the phone wont have anything to do with EE out the box and no extra apps unless you install them from the play store.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
CPW sell the same stock as Google for SIM free at least. I have no experience of contract upgrades with them - but every Nexus I have got from CPW has been SIM free, and unlockable
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hutzdani:
Heres the unboxing image of my 6P on EE

Nothing EE anywhere :D
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Pretty much all their contract and sim free phones are just International/European unlocked devices and they just bundle different sim cards with them

The missus has gotten her phones from them for years and every time there has been no sim locking, branded roms or branding
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] combat goofwing:
I have a nexus 6p direct from ee on launch day,stock from no ee bloatware ,I've unlocked it but left it stock and Google updates on release of them
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deeco7:
I really wanted to upgrade my N6, before a month it got destroyed, but I can't justify the pricing to be honest.

Being a Nexus fan, I hate to think a life without stock android and updates. However, I've been surfing around and the OnePlus3 looks interesting, but not sure about the camera.

Ahhhh, not sure what to do lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
Carphone stock is 100% unlocked, even for upgrades, regardless of the network you choose or whether or not you're upgrading the same stock can be used for any scenario, no phone in their stock is destined for any particular network.

I have read on EEs FB page however that Google is providing a network lock for their phones, we'll have to see if that's just a misinformed rep or not... If it's true then I imagine the bootloader will be locked too.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] contractor:
IIRC Google dates usually pull in by a few days to a week (not counting if you asked for a 128GB 6P last year). My date is 24-26/10. I reckon I'll have mine by next week, certainly on or before CPW delivers.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
if i buy sim free pixel xl 128gb from Carphonewarehouse will it work in dubai and is it unlocked ive never bought from cpw and don't she it to be sim locked.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
CPW only sell Unlocked phones (at one point this was even a advertising point of theirs) this is why they upgrade the other networks. Even years back there were CPW firmwares for phones that people flashed to get off carrier firmware lol
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
So is there any price difference store.google.com and cpw prices?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Same price, I guess the only difference is when they are actually releaced you could walk into a CPW and just buy one and go home, at the moment the physical store benefit isn't there.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
I wanted to buy from US but its out of stock since 4 days and there is no damn stock i am sure even if they get stock the delivery will be in late November and cant wait till that time.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Last year on the Nexus 6P launch, some people in the UK who ordered via CPW actually had their phones a day or two before people who had ordered direct from Google - Reddit threads were going mental (and XDA threads too!) about it "How come people who ordered via CPW have got their phone before me!!! - Not fair!"

In fact, this time around - I've cancelled my Google Store order, and went with CPW again as they will get me my phone by the 21st. My Google Store order said Oct 24-26.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Yup Nexus 6 same thing happened, people were doing all sorts of posts about warranty law and then people actually cancelled their GPS orders and ordered from CPW. I think then you could buy from Amazon and Motorola direct, it was the messiest thing when all these places were getting the phones before the people who ordered them from Google!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deeco7:
If this is any consolation to the guys who are ordering:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/56rvty/for_those_of_you_in_the_uk_who_preordered_with/
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] onesolo:
Is it going to take a lot to be available on amazon uk?!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] siniux:
I'm desperately waiting for it too...

No Amazon.co.uk insider here?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hutzdani:
Further good news for people in the UK, just hit an EE and 3 Carphone wear houses in the south east and the google rep came either Tuesday the 11th or today 12th in those 4 stores and stock is expected towards the end of this week / Monday however this may well be wearhouse stock to ship to stores / customers.

So I'd expect to see shipping confirmation by the 19th easy for those who are ordered via these stores, if I'm due in to any CPWs at work I'll see what they say Monday / Tuesday as I deal with their PoS and customer counting hardware.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
I pre ordered mine on the morning after the pixel announcement (5th) with EE. I just got a text message from them saying my handset will be dispatched within two weeks :( ... I hope it's well within two weeks!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Aston Martin:
Any info on Vodafone stock?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xdaman85:
From my experience with EE, they always say within 2 weeks, they're just trying to cover their backs. You'll definitely get it on time, unless there's some unforseen supply issue. Don't worry, you'll get it on time.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
Thanks for the info! Appreciated
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
The PR rep on Facebook told me they were still aiming for delivery on the 20th and encouraged me to pre order (Little did she know I had already pre ordered on the 4th) the call centres wouldn't tell me anything other than their usual. I also received a text yesterday telling me "Within 14 days"
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hutzdani:
Looks like the best bet here in the UK is CPW, not holding out much hope for google shipping on the 19th if its not shipped by the 19th and still processing i'll walk into a store and grab one.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] matteventu:
It's from Nexus 6 that CPW is breaking day-one for Nexus devices lol

(it did it with Nexus 6, 5X and hopefully Pixel...)

I remember with Nexus 5X, I asked them about a week before official shipment day and they had it in stock, and also tried to sell it to me xD
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
So having ordered mine on the morning of the 5th, I just got a text message from EE :(

'Hello from EE. Unfortunately there has been a slight delay in getting your new device to you, we're really sorry about this. Your new device will be on its way to you within 14 days'

I was told when I placed to order over the phone that I was the first one that day.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xdaman85:
That's why they said 2 weeks, their first message still stands. You'll get it within 2 weeks, I ordered from cpw though. They said 20th, no mention of a delay, but I wouldn't put it past them.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
Fingers crossed our devices arrive without delay. I've just read bootloader from EE supply will be locked, but firmware will be stock without bloat so updates should be timely. In hindsight, a device from CPW mayhave been a better option but the deal I got from EE was good so I'll live with it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xdaman85:
I'm with EE too, prefer to get Sim only monthly plans and buy my phone outright.

Yep, fingers crossed they arrive on time. I had to switch back to my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge after handing my Note 7 back in for a refund.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
Makes sense. I used to do that too, sim only and handset outright. A pal of mine got me friends and family discount with EE a while back, so for me, the cost over 2 years with the plan worked out quite a bit cheaper over 2 years with the plan and phone bundled together. IIRC, im paying £940 over 2 yrs (incl. handset, 10GB, unlimitted texts and calls).
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jaythenut:
bootloader locked dam looks like I'll be going to cpw thanks for the info
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hutzdani:
Wow sod getting it from EE then if its possibly late and locked bootloader that's instant cancelled order if it was me, I'd rather wait or chance it in a brick and mortar store than wait for that crap.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nbhadusia:
The locked bootloader isn't really a biggie for me as not too fussed about needing root. What was a concern was the possibility of EE modifying the stock ROM with bloat and not getting updates directly from Google. Thankfully, I've been assured the ROM is completely stock from EE and Android OTAs will be received without delay or waiting for carrier approval. Rooting was a big deal for me at one time, but nowadays I don't see a massive benefit especially as it breaks most banking apps etc.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jaythenut:
Ordered mine today 32gb xl black at cpw coming on the 20th:D
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
I hope that's true since I've also ordered from EE.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveHTC200:
Why is mine coming on the 21st ? damn it haha
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jaythenut:
Release date is the 20th far as I know and I'm getting on day of release and so should you
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
Is there anyway of checking order status on cpw?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Nope.... I've checked hard!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] akhan47:
No, I ordered over the phone, went in store to ask for status and they just said they can see a complete order but nothing else.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
I'm not to sure if you can go direct to google if bought from elsewhere. I bought nexus 6p from giffgaff which had audio issue and google refused to repair even though it was in warranty. I was very annoyed to say the least.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonyStark:
Saw CPW saying 26th for the orders from now on, it must be doing good. Also my Local one still has its Google display but the 6p and 5x are gone it's just wires now!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
The silver one is 26th but black is still showing 20th oct
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveHTC200:
? I'll be going in a checking that's for sure
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Yeah that's what I mean

Google didn't have to honour your 6p bought from gifgaff because technically it's a Huawei device. But with the XL marketed as a Google device, then by rights they should deal with all warranty work
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] moogaloo:
So I understand that pre-orders in the US are eligible for a free daydream headset. Anyone know what the deal is with UK pre-orders?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
If you order via Google Store - you get 3 months of Google Music (unless you've already been a Google Music customer - in which case you won't get that)

If you order via CPW - you get £50 Play Store credit

Free Daydream View is only for US Pre-Orderers

Naff innit! (well £50 Play Store credit ain't too bad.....)