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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Face_Plant:
I bought one because:

- The size of my Nexus 6 is getting old and I wanted something I can easily manage with one hand

- The cameras on my Nexus 6 suck in anything other than broad daylight

- I absolutely HATE the rounded back on my Nexus 6

- The battery life on my Nexus 6 isn't that great

- 64GB of storage isn't enough

- I'm just bored with my Nexus 6

I am thinking about cancelling my preorder, though. Sure the free VR headset for preordering is nice, but as a full time student $921 for the 128GB Pixel XL is a lot of money to spend with no source of income...
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Honestly face Just go for a 6P, its light years ahead of the nexus 6 in most areas and way cheaper then this joke of a new nexus.

Plus you still gret a 5.7" screen and front firing speakers neither of which the pixel has.

Id easily go for a 6P over the new one...even if priced equally

Sent from my SM-N930FD
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Face_Plant:
I decided to go ahead and cancel my preorder. I can't justify $921 for a phone without seeing some in-depth reviews, confirmation we can get root, and so on.

The thing that scares me away from the 6P is the Snapdragon 810. I've heard horror stories about it. If I can find a 128GB version on clearance from Amazon or something I might go that route.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
I really want to see a true hands on with the phone, maybe even a comparison with the 6P.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
The 6p was a killer device, i regret selling mine and am looking for another one but hard to find in frost and 128gb.out of stock on google store too.

I never had a single issue with it in any regard and it was just as snappy as my note 5 if not more so.

I miss that damn device lol

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Its a joke given what the device offers vs the price- completely misaligned IMO.

And this is coming from someone who the price is literally the last thing i consider when buying anything.

The pixel costs more than the note 7 and lacks many features. It is more than double the cost of the axon 7 and lacks many features.

This is not my opinion....the device is missing many features from both of the above devices and that cannot be disputed. Granted it has other features but hardly make up for bigger screen, stero speakers, sd card etc etc.

I have been buying nexus devices since the galaxy nexus..nexus 5, 6 and 6p..hey Im a fan for sure but they got it horribly wrong this year.

Add a 5.7 to 6" screen, bring back the front firing speakers and offer a 256gb storage option and Id be first in line for it no matter the price

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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] NardVa:
I think Google priced the Pixel phones at a higher price to offset the the free VR headsets that are given out with pre-orders. Who knows, but I'm gone wait until the Pixel XL phone is closer to $550. A starting price of $769 is a little steep in my opinion when the Nexus 6P with a 5.7 inch screen and 64GB storage hit the market at $549.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrvirginia:
I have to say I agree. I think the current price point is partially high because of the VR headset and the free cloud storage... on top of it having the latest silicon, better camera than any Nexus device at launch, then throwing in the fact that they used HTC as their manufacturer and partnered with Verizon...

I guarantee you all of those reasons added up to the higher price point lol

Personally the price doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that if I buy this device, I will be back to selling phones via eBay after about a year of using it. That means I'll have to take great care of it which means buying a case and screen protector. It's so hard to justify going through all that hassle when I can buy an iPhone from Apple under their Apple Care Upgrade program which comes with perks such as annual upgrade and 2 screen replacements at $29 each... basically I can beat an iPhone up and not worry about a thing.

Yesterday I cancelled my iPhone order to order the Pixel XL only to cancel the Pixel XL and re-order iPhone, then cancel, then re-order again.

Very very hard decision dude. I'm going to wait for reviews on Pixel XL. I need to know the hardware is nothing less than stellar.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Oh It definitely had my interest, as google does every year.

And its not like i dislike the device, its actually pretty sweet...all I am driving towards is that its just overpriced for what it is and devices which cost much less are equivalent or exceed in some capacities.

Software updates arent a big deal for most of us who are constantly flashing anyway so for me its not a consideration really. I Can absolutely see how it would be for many people however.

And we are having a "healthy/good discussion about the device...or at least i thought so lol?

Just because Im not likely getting one doesnt mean I cannot discuss it.....or does it?

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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kdwolf85:
Upgrade from the 5X

I'm upgrading to the XL after dealing with the lag of the 5X for the last year. After I switched from AT&T to Fi and started saving about $150 a month I figured I could justify spending the extra money on something that should preform better than the 5X. I have the 32GB 5X and I haven't had any issues with running out of space. Thus, I went with the 32GB Quite Black XL. Unfortunately as I was ordering (via my 5X) the page froze just as I was selecting my shipping options. As I loaded it back up I accidentally skipped over the shipping options and hit submit. So my dates are Oct. 26-28. I'm thinking of doing an unboxing video when I get it. I haven't decided for sure yet.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Thats going to be a huge upgrade no doubt.

Enjoy!

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[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
You know you can cancel that order and make a new order with expedited shipping right? I ordered a 32gb today and expected delivery is 21-24
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kdwolf85:
I don't want a double charge to my credit card though.

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Meh... Never mind. I went ahead and took your advice. The first preorder should be cleared before my next bill anyway.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] evodon84:
I cancelled a couple of orders myself and it's stated that they won't be charged. They typically don't charge until the phone ships anyways so should be all good.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
Well, supposedly the camera on the Pixel is the real deal. Here is a pretty extensive review along with comparison shots from other top devices. I've never really cared too much about the camera on a phone, but this is pretty impressive. It also is worth noting the photographer at this site just happened to be in a very picturesque location.

https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-review-At-the-top
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
I want to buy one and i cant because its not available in my country
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
Really desperate to buy this phone if u guys can find me any company what provides that kind of service ill be glad.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
As much as I've already knocked the damn thing, I can't help but feel a bit of anticipation for it to finally be reviewed thoroughly. For me, I like watching Flossy Carter's reviews on YouTube. He's one of the few that actually buys devices and doesn't use sponsors.

In any case, I'll probably end up getting this around Christmas, if it proves to be worth while.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
there are multiple, i myself ordered one yesterday, quite black xl 128giga, by using shopnship address of NY, then it gets delivered to me in Saudi Arabia. Same case goes with dubai and other country members.

Purchased many products from us/amazon, never had a problem.

Edit: shipment handler is "shopnship", i might have mixed the sentence above. There are others as well like myus.com and others. But shopnship is what i have been using since quite a lot time
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
I have a shop and ship account but whenever i open store.google.com it ends up to india page and i don't want to order from india how do i open US page and will my uae credit/debit card work online?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZOHAIBAR:
You need to have a usa country as set up in a Google account of yours and use usa Vpn to make it work. As whenever you login using your India/uae Google account it will find out that you are basically from India/uae even if using usa Vpn. Then use your India/uae credit card on it, I'm not sure how credit cards works in their but definitely debit card won't work.

Then place your shopnship address in checkout, make extra 77 dollar tax payment, as I bought xl 128gb for dollars 860+77 tax
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
Thanks ill try tonight great help[emoji1] [emoji2]
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
Let me tell you all what I like about it and why I've bought one

First and foremost I really love the attention to detail they've put in to it. With many OEMs and in particular the cheap and Chinese brands they toddle off to a parts bin, pluck out some big spec items, throw it all together and pop an AOSP build on, this method has brought some great phones for a great price. With Pixel it has been confirmed there is custom Google designed silicone and decisions:

The camera has been thought about, tweaked, optimised and to a good result if we believe what DXO Mark have to say about it

How the touch screen works has been mulled over and vastly improved with reduced latency

Sensors for daydream have been tuned to great sensitivity

UFS 2.0 has been confirmed for faster storage, something a Nexus has never had due to price

USB3.1 has been confirmed along with power delivery over the USB C for faster file transfers and 18W charging

Yes we've lost front facing speakers but I'll give that up for the fluidity of use that some of the changes above would suggest

Secondly software, assistant is Google's new baby and Pixel is one of the platforms for it as well as Daydream. Whether or not you like it there's some exclusivity and that's how competitive markets work, I for one am glad we're moving away from absolute vanilla android any OEM can use and into Googles best offering, it's a bit more special.

Third, support. Like almost everyone else on XDA I probably won't ever use the support, I'd like to think we're better than most and can fix the problems ourselves, however it does inspire me with confidence in a product if a manufacturer is willing to stand behind it.

I would also like to address the elephant apple in the room. Yes it does look like an iPhone but let's step back a bit, please correct me if I'm wrong but HTC made the first aluminium ALOOOMINUM unibody phone, an idea apple quickly picked up and one that HTC and Apple did battle over with many other OEMs throwing in. Saying they look the same is like comparing two saloon cars and saying they copied each other, that's the shape of phones at the moment, it's comfortable and functional.

I see comparisons being drawn between cheaper phones and the Pixel including Nexuses. I've seen people complaining the N6P had metal too thin and it bends, I've seen people complaining about the screen quality on One Plus and Axons, Fluidity problems on Samsungs. To me the Pixel looks set to be an excellent all rounder and I do think it's expensive, I feel it's like they chose a price, saw it was in Apple's ball park and thought "What the hell, we'll just bump it up to match" and it might not be an entirely dumb move because I have seen people choose iPhones over Android handsets, their response being "If it so much better than an iPhone then why is it that much cheaper?"

TLDR: Maybe Pixels aren't for all of the Nexus crowd, particularly those that bought for the low price, but I'm in it for the best possible Android experience and there's no doubt in my mind that Pixel is the way forward.

Sorry that's so long
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Well thought out post - agree with pretty much everything you've said..... Hence I also bought one.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
I'm getting pretty fed up (If you can't tell) with people making unjust comparisons, seems like negativity for negativity's sake. If you can't see the value in all of the finer details then simply don't purchase the thing!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adamsweeting:
Couldn't agree more my friend!
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
Yes. We can all agree what is and is not on the phone in terms of features. We can move past that now.

The value of those 'missing features' is subjective and up to each individual to decide the worth of. No point arguing these.

The new features/benefits that are unique to and come with the Pixel are also up to each individual to decide the worth of. No point arguing these.

I find discussions on what the new features can/can't and do/don't do more interesting, so people can make up their own mind on the value of them.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ikenvape:
[MENTION=2651267]mrvirginia[/MENTION]

You're not alone in this crazy boat we're sailing. Affording the high price point isn't a massive deal, but it's more of a principal of what kind of return you are getting. I too preordered, then cancelled. Then ordered a Op3, just to cancel the following day and placed an order for the lesser 32gb variant of the XL. Not a good feeling of uncertainty.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Fenny:
Good to see you here.

I preordered mine, and I am excited to finally have an unlockable bootloader again.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoodeddeathman:
The problem seems to me that everyone is judging its worth on specs alone. Personally I think there's more worth in how it feels, operates and runs and I'm hedging my bets that Pixel will be the best. If you're uncertain cancel everything and wait until you can have a go side by side (Unless you can abuse some sort of returns policy on the basis you don't like it)
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Don't think anyone has mentioned this, but it IS worth mentioning. Google even mentions it, but most people probably don't know what it means.

The LEDs used for the camera flash have a CRI (color rendition index) of about 90 (out of 100). A typical LED can be as low as the 60's. What does this mean for you? If you use your flash in photography, or even for use as a flashlight, it will very accurately portray the TRUE color of the object that is being illuminated. Perception of color will also depend on the color temperature of the LED itself (if it is a warm LED, it will still have a warm cast, but color is still noticeably better than a low CRI light source). Hopefully the LED is a daylight color tone instead of being overly warm, but either way, it will be a great set of LEDs to use for flash if you need it.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MasterDBA:
I'm down for the Pixel because I'm ready for a smarter smartphone. That's why I bought the 32GB XL in a black dress.

What ultimately made my mind up was the free photo and vid storage. Icing on the cake.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stevew84:
I'd argue that the Pixel is only "smarter" if you own the suite of Google products for the home. When Nest, Chromecast, (and the new home sound system), can all be controleed with the Pixel, THAT will be awesome.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
Finally i figured it out how to buy phone from usa google sita and 128gb is out of stock so frustrating only 32gb is availble??
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
Yes i am on the wait list[emoji2]
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ikenvape:
I 2nd Tiger. Stock Does get replenished as people cancel their orders. Yesterday I had an opportunity to get a 128gb
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amritttt:
what about the delivery date? was in it november or late october?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
What most people are upset about is the common flagship phone features that google left out, the features others flagships have. You cant add one feature then get rid of another that buyers like and desire, such as sd card slot Htc 10, sammy s7, s7 edge and note 7 all have them then basically all motorola models have sd card slots. Then the one speaker audio really when Htc is known for stereo speaker premium audio where others do but not google. Then people are upset about the low water proof rating where sammy and apple have the far superior water rating. As many have said not saying its not a good phone just missing many standard features for flagship phones and its way over priced for what you get.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
Duly noted that some people feel that way. There... We've acknowledged the opinion.

Can the forum get back to people interested in and/or buying the phone talking about it now?
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
This is a healthy discussion, and in no way is it opinion, the missing features are fact and not opinion, your statement is your opinion and not facts. We also acknowledge your opinion, we can get back to factual discussion and not opinion as your post was only your opinion.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Any member of xda can post facts about said product. I posted facts if anyone does not like the facts you can take them up with google who designed the device. There should be talk of the Htc 10 after all Htc made this device lol. We can talk about any products made by the this manufacturer. After all this is a free country and posting facts is not in any way a violation of xda policy. I have no clue why certain people seem to take offense to facts about said device, you can be a fanboy but facts are facts and you have no reason to take offense.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
No thread poster can stipulate who can or cant post, and cant post facts about said device if they are not positive about it, so your whole thought makes absolutely no difference. .. If this were the case google would post threads to praise their device and no one could post negative facts about it lol you just dont get it.

I never said I dont like the device I listed what its missing and the price is over what comparable devices are devices that have many missing premium features. People only posting good things is misleading to potential buyers they are entitled to get what is wrong or missing also not just fanboy posts that only praise the device. This is not a perfect device or the best available so stop trying to make it that. If you post good things people can post facts that prove that is only your opinion and not the consensus of the many.

And I never said I was not going to purchase one, my facts just state its too expensive for what you get. If they drop the price to where it should be a reasonable price then I will get one after all its made by Htc, but its way over priced compared to comparable flagship phones that have key missing features not found in pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryno77:
I preordered the phone and I think it's overpriced but I don't care. We all more than likely know it's priced a little high. I am personally able to give 100-200 dollars away....over the course of a year it's basically nothing to me. You make $15 an hour and out of that one hour the "overpriced" portion costs you what $2-4 a week? I understand all of this but I don't think $100-$200 is worth getting panties bunched up over. I'm sick of reading about it....it's not enough money to be pissed about for 3 days or even 3 hours. A lot of people are coming off like whiny little *****es. Not directed at anyone but I've read a whole lot of posts all over the place the past few days and it's time for everyone to get over the cost of the phone in my opinion. Sorry for the sidetrack.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
The topic is pixel xl as this is the pixel xl forum my posts were about pixel xl FYI. My facts I posted were 100% legit if you do not like those facts well that is on you.

And once again omg I never said I was not going to purchase as most are doing waiting for the price to come down to it is fair for what the device is. Pixel is not a brand like iphone or Samsung or even Htc, pixel is new and is not worth the premium price that is more than other flagship phones with the missing key features that people are upset about.

You just love to try and nit pick instead of trying to post facts that prove my facts wrong which you cant so you just want to nit pick instead of trying to dispute my facts of these features missing found in most other flagship phones but you just want to try to avoid the facts stated and continue to praise this device.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Nit pick all you want your not proving your praise when you do not provide proof that pixel xl is not missing key flagship features that most others have and your not providing facts that people are not upset about it and think its overpriced for what it is.

You cant praise a product and think people cant post with negative facts about said product.
[Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
You never provided any question that was on topic to this thread. I do not need to answer to you. Any you go on and on I said I may buy when the price goes down to where it should be just as many people are doing. Weather I buy or not is actually none of your business. This whole forum is to discuss the pixel xl just as I have you cant keep people from posting facts about the device just because you like said device. If you want to be a fanboy you can be but you cant stop anyone from posting negative things about your fanboy device, especially when they are 100% true.

All your posts you never stated any facts that disprove that these premium flagship features are not missing in pixel xl, features that have been found in flagship phones for years such as Htc m7, m8, m9, 10, samsung s5, note 4, s7, s7 edge, note 7, and most Motorola smartphones including the moto series.

If your irritated, I welcome you to try to disprove my stated facts that most flagship phones come with these premium features missing in this device, as can be seen in the list in the paragraph above of the devices that have most of these missing premium flagship phone features and they have a less premium price. No one liking this device has to like this but its fact and not opinion.