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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] kanodiatushar:
i have already applied for official permission and i'am stuck on 50% in MiUnlock application,

here " http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-solve-bootloader-unlock-process-stuck-at-50/ " it says

"First, make sure you have updated your phone to MIUI Developer ROM and you have been using for few days (7 days or more). If this doesn’t help you with any luck then try the next possible workarounds below."

and i was wondering if we have a way to flash dev rom on locked bootloader
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] goofball2k:
I flash on global stable rom (8.0.1.0 and 8.0.2.0) and no issues.

Are you signed into the i.mi.com site using the exact same credentials? I unlock using my email and I've done it about a dozen times since so many roms have locked the bootloader after I've flashed, never an issue.

I didn't wait more than 30 min after receiving the sms indicating I had permission to unlock.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] SapoPT:
I was having the same issue. Today, following I did the update successfully using this tutorial: http://en.miui.com/thread-235865-1-1.html
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] induna:
I used that guide to flash my new phone with locker bootloader with 8.0.1.0 Stable since my phone came with a vendor rom that FC'd when I tried to add a fingerprint. The guide worked perfectly. Just make sure to use the latest version of the MiFlash tool. Some of the older versions will fail to flash.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
I have the HTC One M8 since launch and love it. The looks, the smoothness, Sense UI. Best smartphone I ever had (came from a couple of Samsung, which were dissappointing).

The only thing failing is the battery but I already bought a new one and will be replacing it soon. But I'm debating if I should upgrade to the new HTC 10...I also thought about the Pixel but seems too expensive, only reviews will tell of course.

To anyone who went from the M8:

Is it worth it? Is it definitely faster and with better battery life? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Cheers :)
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] vksf01:
i came from an m8 and would definitely recommend it. it's much faster and the battery life is much better. also, given that it's unlocked (i had an att m8), the updates are more frequent.

things i don't really like about it, the headphone jack is on the top instead of the bottom. i also preferred the m8's method of turning the camera on (by double clicking on the volume) instead of the 10's method of swiping down on the screen since i seem to always be turning the camera on by accident.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] badzi0r:
I came from M7 and happy with battery live, fast charging, memory card slot, Android pay, finger print and other small things.

via tapatalk@htc10
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Did you have the M8 since it was launched? Did you get to replace the battery? I've noticed that battery life is not the same has it was at the beginning but to be honest the worst moment was when we got the Android 5 Lollipop update. Other than that it's still blazing fast so I can't really imagine something much faster than this. Is the 10 that much faster?

The Google Pixel is going to be announced tomorrow so I might as well wait for the first reviews. Even though I would love fast software updates from Google (and that will last not 2 but 3 years) I doubt that the sound quality will be has good and it is on the M8 and the 10.

That's not really what I was looking for since, in my humble opinion, the M8 was already a big step up when compared to the M7. But thanks for your input.

Cheers
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] vksf01:
Yes, I had the M8 since launch although ATT replaced it when they upgraded to lollipop because their update made my GPS go haywire (it couldn't be turned off and so drained my battery like crazy). the replacement m8 has worked fine. Both m8's didn't really have any issue with the battery. I still have my m8 which i'll use as a backup.

I'd also wait for the pixel phone reviews to see what they're like.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] MrRob0t:
I ran M8 from launch day right up until the 10, and is absolutely worth it. The development is wonderful as well.

I do agree, however to see what the Pixel devices are like.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thanks, I had already read your answer on Head-fi and you've been very helpful once again. I am actually very glad to know that speed and smoothness is not that different between the M8 and the 10 since I love this phone and was hoping to keep it a while longer, not letting the "upgrade bug" bite me ;)

Indeed battery life on the M8 got worse after they updated it to Lollipop because before that I always got to bed with 30% at least, which stopped happening afterwards. Of course 2 years of heavy use also had its toll and I am hoping that replacing the battery with a new original one will help regaining some of the battery life I used to have but I dont really know if it will help. I actually love my M8 camera but I didn't try the HTC 10 so probably it´s because I haven't tried anything better. I also love the sound that come from the speakers (the guy that replaced my once faulty micro usb port cleaned the speakers grills and sound is once again very nice, just like it was when I bought it). I particularly love the sound when using headphones. I came from the Galaxy S3 and S4 and there's not even a comparison.

I believe I have very nice hearing but I only use the Xiaomi Piston 3 headphones, if you participate in the Head-Fi forums you surely know they have nice and balanced sound quality for the price (20 bucks) but I wanted to ask you another question, if you dont mind: would you recommend me a better in ear headphones, ones that cost less than, lets say, 60 bucks or so? Will I see significant better sound quality than my Xiaomi Piston 3?

Thanks again for your input :)

Cheers
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] ryanjsoo:
Thought that username looked familiar! I had the Pistons 3's for a while and they're very good for the price. They're warmer and bassier than neutral so I would look at the Shozy Zero for $60 on the dot. They have a similar warm sound, they're a really nice step up but you'll perhaps miss the remote. I found them to sound better than my Klipsch X10's which cost me over $100 and they're also lot better than the Shure SE215 in the sound department. There's heaps of reviews on the net, it's definitely a model to consider.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thanks, I will read some reviews about them. :) Cheers
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] samisax:
Ryan's review is spot on.

I came from the M8. In short, I upgraded because of the upgrade bug mainly. After a couple of months of usage, I can say that I could have stayed with the M8 longer. The major differences are (1) improved build quality (e.g. no dust under the lenses; no scratches), (2) much better camera, (3) finger-print scanner, (4) punchier audio jack output.

As you can see, the only two things that really make a difference are the camera and the fingerprint scanner. Otherwise, I generally feel I haven't gotten a new phone, if not for the visually different front side.

In the end, if you take lots of photos, it's probably justifiable to upgrade. If you don't take too many photos, then the upgrade bug is the only real reason to upgrade.

Cheers.

PS: I love the 10. It's easily the greatest phone I've ever held/seen. It's just that the M8 was so amazing in its own right that it's a small upgrade to the 10.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thanks for another great input, very helpful to sustain my decision to keep this great smartphone :)

Cheers
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] CharliesTheMan:
I came from the M7, so I know I'm answering slightly out of place, but I did have a few M8 Dev phones I used and played with, but didn't use as a daily driver.

I paid full US Unlocked retail cash money, so it was a substantial investment upfront to get the M10, not just a monthly finance charge.

My honest opinion, it was totally worth it. I considered the nexus or one of the CM or blu type devices because of instant OS updates and unlocking. I'm SOOO glad I went with the HTC 10.

It offers me HTC Sense, and unlocking it thanks to sunshine (it's actually S off, not unlocking, but for ease of use we will call it unlocking) was easier than some of my nexus devices, literally.

Hardware and build quality is amazing, and the sense software and rom selections are too notch.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] drumz0rz:
I went through 2 M8s and loved them. Definitely one of the best devices I've ever used. The only reason I ended up upgrading to the 10 was because my second M8 got wet and the screen died. To me, it was worth upgrading rather than trying to repair it. There are some definite benefits of upgrading.

The phone is more comfortable to hold.

The all-glass front looks incredible and has resisted fingerprints and smudges much better than my M8 did.

The cameras are much better (although the "laser autofocus" does mess up from time to time, especially looking through a window)

The screen is larger and even more crisp. Colors are brighter.

Battery life is MUCH improved.

Quick-Charge 3.0 is like magic. It's seriously impressive how quickly this phone charges.

USB-C is "future proof" and a better connector. Not more finding the right orientation or loose connections with old cables.

I thought I'd hate the power button on the side, but I actually love it. It's a solid button and it makes taking screenshots (pwr+vol dn) easy with 1 hand.

The fingerprint scanner is a HUGE plus. I still keep a lockscreen password as a backup, but 99% of the time, it unlocks with a single finger press.

I don't know if you still have your M8 stock (if you're on XDA, I hope not :p ), but I had a big issue with my M8 when I first got it, with the "wipe after 10 failed unlock attempts" that was built into the OS. It ended up trying in my pocket and when I took my phone out, it was wiped. Installing a custom ROM fixed that for me. On the HTC 10, they changed it very wisely. After 5 failed finger print attempts it will lock you out for 30 seconds. To unlock in this window, you need to use your passcode/PIN. If you try and fail on the passcode, it will give you 3 more tries until locking you out from that too for 30 seconds. After 5th failed unlock attempt, it will then ask you to trace a pattern on the screen, before it will let you try again. If you don't follow the pattern pretty closely, it won't let you try again. This makes it virtually impossible to accidentally wipe your device, while still preserving the security feature. I'm not sure if this is a MM feature or an HTC feature but it's great and has saved me a few times already.

There are some cons about switching from the M8 to the 10 though....

No more IR blaster.

No more Barometer.

Headphone jack is moved to top of the phone.

Rear camera sticks out.

Speed / performance increase is not very noticable. The M8 is still a competitive phone.

Neutral is the boomsound speakers. The M8's front stereo speakers were definitely louder, but not significantly so. The front/down combo on the 10 works fine.

A negative of both the M8 and the 10 is the IP rating. IP53 just doesn't cut it. I learned first hand how intolerant to water the M8 is, and the 10 is no better. HTC needs to get next year's flagship up to IP68 or they're going to really struggle.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
I am using stock rom, tried several Google based and sense based and didn't like them, I actually think that the stock one is better, especially since Marshmallow.

Thanks for the time you took mentioning the advantages and disadvantages of making the upgrade. My only gripe currently is battery life, that's why I ordered a battery and will be replacing it. 2 years of heavy use takes its toll. Let's see how that goes.

I won a blackberry DTEK50 (it's the Alcatel idol 4 hardware rebranded with blackberry software on top of Android) and a UMi Max Smartphones on 2 Internet giveaways (in the same day, talk about luck, right?) , they haven't arrived yet but I believe none of them would be a proper upgrade over my M8 so I think I'm selling the DTEK50 and giving the UMi Max to my niece. Do you guys agree that the DTEK50 is more of a sidegrade as well?

Cheers
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] rambleon84:
I wasnt planning on upgrading to the 10 but broke my m8 a couple weeks ago. Things i like right away; better camera (faster focus/snapping and quality) battery seems to last longer/charges faster, phone is quicker in general and audio from headphones is better (more on this last one below.) The USB C is nice (other than having to buy a few extra cables to keep around the house/car,) nice not having to align the direction when plugging in. Transferring data to/from computer is quicker.

One of the main reason i was interested in the 10 if for its audio, i use Sennheiser Momentum 2, over ears. Noticeable improvement of the M8 in back to back listening of the same songs. Momentum 2's are lower impedance (compared to most headphones in that price range) and the 10 get louder than i can comfortably listen to but even fully cranked, sound is clean. I'd be curious to see how well it could power a higher impedance headphone without a standalone amp. Also, noticed an improvement with my old M8 Harmon Kardon ear buds (new 10 doesnt come with any, which i didnt plan on using but found odd)

ROM support seems pretty good, still waiting for a daily driver AOSP style rom but VIPER has been issue free.

Down sides, the phone feels larger in the hands, not so much heavier/dimensionally but maybe weight is in different place? I know, that sounds odd but just how it feels holding it one handed. The power button on the side was easier to get used to, no longer phantom touching the top of the phone. I liked having the headphone jack next to the charging port on the bottom, made it easier to use both at the same time. No more IR blaster, which i didnt use often but still used on occasion.

Speaker audio seems quieter, not really liking the ear and bottom firing speaker vs dual fronts of the m8. If holding the phone in landscape and watching videos, your hand can easily muffle the sound depending on how its held. Dual front speakers seemed to direct the sound towards your head better. The sound range seems to come mostly from the bottom speaker, depending on how you holding the phone can change that.

Overall, pretty happy with the device. Waiting to see if I can get a second one on sale/contract for the wife. Scored my Sprint version from Bestbuy.com for $100 but havent had luck finding a second in stock at that price.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] silegeek:
I came from the m8 too. The HTC10 is a brilliant phone with a few flaws.

The camera (or at the very least, the software) can be a little temperamental. The sound does not match up to the M8's boomsound at all. With that in mind, however, its better than pretty much every other phone without a similar set up.

You would also be moving from USB Micro to USB-C. A much needed improvment, but maybe stock up on cables, and make sure they support quick charge :)

As for things that I prefer over the m8, the black navigation bar at the bottom of the screen is gone, and replaced by hardware navigation. This is much better to me, as I always felt the onscreen navigation just wasted screen space really.

The finger print scanner is one of the best I have used on any phone, and using that to wake up and unlock the phone makes getting used to the moved power button a non-issue.

I did have issues with the headphone jack being on the top, but im just used to it now.

I have installed custom roms (you dont need to S-OFF to do this whatsoever, just unlock the bootloader using HTCDev) and this improves much. In a default stock condition though, its a pretty damn good phone. Certainly happy to be using it for the next two years.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] KC013:
I came from the M8, but am returning to it once I get it unlocked for use with my current carrier. Cameras (I never take pictures) were a non-issue for me, I could care less about them. For me, it is a software issue. I like Sense and the way it is/was implemented. With each iteration of HTC phones, Sense seems to be in a state of retreat, abdicating to standard Android apps. Many things that have been removed are the very items I liked. Vanilla Android is not for me. Soooooo, for me it's back to the M8 and a dilemma over what my next phone will be. Certainly not an HTC unless miracles occur.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thank you both for your answers :) I am more and more inclined to keep my M8, replacing the battery, of course.

Cheers!
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] LibertyMonger:
I still have my M8 and to me, the 10 makes the M8 look generic. The screen is much better and much more beautiful, it is much faster and smoother and although the sound doesn't seem louder from the speakers, it is mainly because it is much clearer and sounds much better. Especially certain ringtones just sound much better. This lie I keep hearing that the M8 boomsound speakers are much better is aggravating lol. I mostly hear it in the same post where they are talking about the S7. The 10 is an absolutely perfect phone and the development is amazing. Viper 10 is the most perfect ROM I have ever experienced. I always thought I would hate hardware buttons but after going back to my M8 when flashing ROM's, the onscreen buttons are annoying. I liked my M8 and M9, was disappointed with the M9 luckily I was able to trade it in for the 10, but I absolutely love my 10. There is no doubt it is a worthy upgrade. Having it now, I would hate to have not ever experienced it. You would have to be very picky to have anything bad to say about it.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] thefoodman52:
I was in the market for a new phone after I shattered my M8 screen (that, and I've had the M8 since 2 months after launch).

I was in debate of either spending more money on a flagship (HTC 10, S7 or the like), or going with a cheaper flagship from the 'other guys' (Honor, OnePlus, etc). I'm glad I shelled out for the HTC 10. I got in when it was $100 off, and right now being $150 off, it's a no-brainer if you have the cash for it.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] atirox:
The best phone I've used.

I also came from a M8. Man, did I love that thing.

I remember when the M7 came out. I thought that thing was a sexy hunk of aluminum. Essentially, the same build quality you'd see in an iPhone (essentially unheard of), but running Android. It was almost a Godsend for me. The only downside for me was the lack of SD card support. When the M8 came out, I had to have it. It was the M7, with a SD card slot.

I loved that M8 far more than I probably should have. After 2+ years of some pretty heavy abuse, it was still going strong. The only issue I had with it was it would occasionally forget permissions after the battery crapped out somewhere between 10-20% juice left...

As far as the 10 goes, I'm loving it. In all honesty, I see it as an evolution of everything that was good about the M8. The only drawback for me is no IR blaster. That's about it. Having done some heavy gaming on the M8, I always said they should have moved the headphone jack to the top of the M8 instead of leaving it on the bottom, which would allow for holding the phone in the other landscape orientation when your right thumb got tired of stretching over the HTC logo at the bottom of the screen. For me, the headphone jack on the top of the phone is awesome.

The BoomSound 2.0 speakers for me are mostly positive. While I'm not a fan of the grill on the bottom, I feel that they are the best sounding speakers on a phone to date. They add a depth to the audio that isn't there on every other handset. The only downfall is when the phone is used in landscape orientation, as the speaker can get muffled, and the sound is unbalanced... The only other thing I miss, is having some of the HTC apps installed on the phone... I did much prefer the HTC Gallery to Google's Photos app... Some of those... Otherwise, this phone is awesome, and in my opinion, so worth the upgrade.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thanks. But can't you just install the HTC apps from Google play store?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] atirox:
Not all of them... They discontinued the Gallery so far as I can tell.. Things like Mail, and Calendar are still in the play store.

I guess my only gripe is that I really liked HTC's Gallery app...
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] chrisz5z:
You could always find the apk online & install it. Quick Google search found this one: M8 Gallery apk thread. If it doesn't work there's other apks out there.

But anyway, back on topic...

For me, the M8 to the 10 is more of an evolutionary upgrade.

Performance:

Stock vs stock....Sense 8 plus the extra 2gb of RAM makes general tasks noticeably quicker. Sure the SoC upgrade is there but it only becomes significant in heavy tasks such as gaming.

Custom ROM vs custom ROM... performance is pretty much the same except in gaming.

Only other upgrades that are significant is the camera and the DAC. However, If you don't have some decent headphones the DAC in the 10 will only show a negligible difference.

And tbh, I would rather have kept the 1080p resolution for the performance benefit alone. QHD on phones this size is more of a selling point. It's noticeable for a couple weeks, but after that your eyes adjust. Even when I use my M8 there isn't a huge difference unless I have the M8 & 10 side by side.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] IceMan93pn:
Had the m8 since the release, got htc 10 about two weeks ago. I think it is worth the upgrade, the phone is sure faster, the camera is so much better. Battery life and quick charge 3.0 is great. The only thing that i rly miss is the IR blaster at the top, because i used it often, guess i just need to adapt.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] dlads:
When the 10 came out I'd say yes, now? I'm not so sure. Too many phones about to be released, the pixel being the one I'd have my eye on.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] timbohobbs:
Still on M8 and have to wait a few months till upgrade . Have researched extensively and the 10 is what I long for. Looking forward to ( hopefully )

Better and larger screen

Longer battery life ( am still getting 3-30 to 4 hrs sot )

Improved audio through earphones

Fingerprint scanner and capacitive buttons

To me it looks nicer than M8

Faster

May miss speakers and headphone jack placement but think I'll adjust easily

Also wondering if there's a way of turning the screen off, as easily as on M8 with onscreen power button ?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Badelhas:
Thanks for your input.

So in other words you're just waiting for the price to come down, your not even debating if you should keep the M8. ;)

But are you unsatisfied with your M8 in some way?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] timbohobbs:
I still love it, felt a big upgrade from my nexus 4 . My contracts are 24 months and I try not to spend more each time I upgrade so it's usually win-win for a better phone for the same monthly cost. I can usually never afford the brand new flagships but rooting and custom roms keep the phone pretty relevant for 2 years . The M8 holds well today but at times it's slower than newer phones and the camera and screen, although fine, are bettered by the M10 and others. Fingerprint security is a big selling point to me also.

Overall, I'd like 30-60 mins extra sot, bigger better screen, top camera and capacitive buttons .

Your case may be different, if I were to have to consider buying outright the answer would be no, I would stay with the M8 until I could afford to spend £500 which would likely be never.