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[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] haher2:
Lenovo Moto support told me they do not provide information regarding release dates, but they confirmed there will be an update to Android N for Moto G4 Play.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanjay parsi:
Tomorrow is the last date for Moto g4 plus devices but still g4 play devices aren't getting any updates
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] manasn:
Still nothing..

Still no updates. I fear they might rollback on their promise.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] cy56:
Got an update for 1 September security patch level. I saw a YouTube video on that but that person's level was 1 October. My version is: MPI24.241-2.47 sized 425 MB.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] aanishjangra:
Yupp.... same update here....!!!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] cy56:
I think we are betrayed for Nougat...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] natesc0tt:
135 days [and counting] later....

This is what happened to my Nexus 5. Too many flagships and official devices. Their business model is something like: "Give the people what they want, then give them something new and convince them that they want it instead. We can make money of the masses of people who don't care about loyalty or frugality and don't have the attention span or memory to remember all our broken promises."

Nexus, Moto, Galaxy, Pixel, bla bla! We're here 4 u 4ever... until we're not anymore.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] XMoDuLeSx:
Nougat is landing soon...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
I wouldn't count on it.

7.1.2 beta is out and we still don't have 7.0 yet.

This update business is a joke.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] agentfusion:
Yeah...

And this is why I finally jumped ship after a decade of fun with winmo and Android. I just switched to T-Mobile and got an iPhone SE.

I'll still be around here though because my LG G4 I still use as a mini tablet and the camera is phenomenal, but the update game with Android is weak. Promises and lies. By the time my iPhone SE stops getting updates, I'll probably want to upgrade to the iPhone 11S or whatever number they'll be up to. Apple keeps their phones updated until the hardware just can't handle the software.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Good move. :good:

I have considered jumping ship to Apple also. (the 6s plus or 7s plus) It's just that Android is all I've known and the Iphone ecosystem seems too sterile and complicated for me. Idk. How do you like the switch from Android to Apple?

See, I use my phone for playing a lot of music videos and on Android I can transfer my music to and from my pc or even through Google Drive. Apple you gotta use Itunes, right?

Also from what I understand you can't usb connect an iphone to a pc. Is that correct? Please help me understand this?

Anyway, you are right. Android sucks when it comes to getting updates. I may just make that move to Apple. Just gonna have to learn the Apple way of doing things though.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] fireball0093:
Take a look into the jailbreaking ecosystem on iOS. Cydia is somewhat similar to xposed, there are repositories and third party tweaks and apps you can download and use. Do research to see if the iPhone you're after is able to be jailbroken. I used to be an iPhone user and knew how to do all of that up until I broke my iPhone 4 and jumped to Android. I love iOS, but I don't know if I can make the switch back to it anymore after switching to Android. And yes, you do have to use iTunes.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Thanks so much! :highfive:

Very good information.

My only other alternative is to buy a Google Pixel phone or a Nexus phone to be assured of timely android updates.

I really like the android ecosystem. To me it is more user friendly than IPhones.

Gonna weigh my options but it's gonna be hard for me to break away from Android.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] maxrax1:
There is some new info that Nougat should be available in Europe by the end of February. But it is not 100% cause this info came from Deutch Motorola support only. I dont think that they will rollout this update worldwide.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Thanks but at this point it's a lost cause waiting for Nougat; by the time the Moto G4 play gets Nougat (if at all) Android O will probably be out. The carriers really make it hard on android users with all this update mess.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hp420:
carriers have nothing to do with this. if moto hasn't updated the unlocked model then carriers can't work on their variant. the blame for this update delay lies 100% in moto's hands this time.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] EthansMama223:
I have the Moto G4 Play with Verizon and I had some questions. Am I in the right spot? Or can someone direct me to the right forum please?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] nick_white:
This is the appropriate forum: https://xdaforums.com/g4-play/help

Create a new thread there with your questions.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dopefish1337:
Any news about the topic (NOUGAT)?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Unfortunately, no news. No Nougat. And by the time the Moto G4 play gets it, Android O will probably be out.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dron_Off:
Got some shyte news.

In the morning 8/03/2017 I've decided to check if there any update available for my Moto 4G Play, and was very surprised when I have seen that there is Android N 7.0 update available. I have started the update immediately. After about 30 min. of processing (downloading, rebooting, updating, booting) it booted up! And surprise: nothing changed, I didn't trust my eyes and go to check "About", there was Android 6.0.1!!!

I asked myself and lenovo WTF?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Noone cares about comparison to "O" - we'll never get it anyway...Question starts to arise is maybe LenovoRola quitted our Nougat upgrade and we just don't know it... :(

That's quite important and weird... Did you see the classic upgrade screen with all the description of Nougat changelog before hitting the button? :eek:

Obviously I have no reasonable explanation on what happened to you, but could you be the "lucky" guy of an experimental soak ROM or sth that rolled back immediately? The only optimistic thing I can see is that maybe sth is being tested in the labs and the whole update is not as abandoned as it seems so far...

PS: What country do you live in btw?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Excuse me, but where did you see me comparing Android N to O?

The whole point (which either you missed or I didn't make clear enough) is that the android update process is painfully slow. When an update comes out it should not take seven months or more for android users to receive it. And why should anyone get excited about an already ancient (by today's standards) update when the next one (whether a particular device receives it or not) is nearly out?

This is one area where Apple (and I am not an Apple fan) kicks Android in the rear end.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] vikasyadav:
i talk to moto team

they said we alreay started moto g4 play nougat delivery and they said after 7.0 we will reacive 7.1 update with secuirty fix soo.

wait guys

here is the link of my chat[IMG="moto g4 play nougat update 7.0 _ 7.1"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4xcRj8ChJdUZ0F2QnEwTE9GMUE/view?usp=sharing[/IMG]
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Uchiha0724:
It appears your link is broken, also this is very good news. Hopefully it is soon.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dron_Off:
Excuse me for my delay. I am in Ireland. There was 7.0 Update, terms and cond. as it shoud be. And long long patching. Very strange for me too :).
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] abhprk32:
I talked to a motorola executive today . He says the update is currently being tested and would be avilable atmost till the end of april . And it would be the latest android nougat 7.1.2 just like moto e 1st gen was directly updated to 5.1 instead of 5.0 . And moto e had to wait for that . So brothers be patient . Nougat is coming for our device :)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
This certainly looks like great news but as always we have to be cautious and patient with the "new" Lenovo/Motorola...

I just start to believe more on Nougat and tend to think that the strange update that a friend saw few days ago, was indeed an experimental soak ROM that was pulled away during this testing period they told you

If all that stands true, we only have to wish for a quick delivery :)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] yaduvanshiii:
I reacived motorola devloper team call .today 4.30 22/03/2017( IST) he says moto g4 play soak test will be completed in 1,2 weeks, ( they test via sock test Moto g4 play hardware compatible r not for nougat ) . he say's . moto g4 play hardware fully compatible for nougat update and upcoming update.too ) after that . He says the update is currently being tested and would be avilable atmost till the end of april end week or may first week in india. and And it would be the latest android nougat 7.1.2. with latest cecurity update.:p:o:)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Belac77:
sounds like good news! The [MENTION=5620854]Moto_G[/MENTION]ER Twitter account has also said they're working on Nougat for the Play. Hopefully we all won't have to wait long :D
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mmagalhães:
Some few weeks ago I received a update but not for Nougat. It's just a Security Patch ! :(
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] abhprk32:
Got another security update today . moto g4 play indian version
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Do you mean more recent than February we got 2 weeks ago? What is the Android security patch level on your device now?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] abhprk32:
1 february 2017
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] bobbyphoenix:
removed
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dopefish1337:
any news? :(
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ragemelon:
Nope. Current news also does not provide any clues of a beta or anything else
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dragon-tmd:
My best guess is: it will take ages for Lenovo to update des G4 Play ... Until then, there are plenty of good Customs ROMS with 7.1.1.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] karthiclifee:
Lenovo is waste dump... No updates and hear after no lenovo... Lets go for redmi or big budget one plus
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Uchiha0724:
Is it rolling out?

Does anyone know if the nougat update is rolling out yet? The G4 and G4 plus varients have already received it.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] karthiclifee:
Guys this is today news and sweet
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Paul84:
The full article. :eek:

http://www.androidauthority.com/moto-g4-play-android-nougat-june-765567/
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] karthiclifee:
What is ETA:rolleyes:
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Paul84:
Estimated Time of Arrival
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Let's wait now that we have an "official" timeframe unless we buy another phone until June... :)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Belac77:
I guess it's nice to know for sure, but June seems like a long time to wait ?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] classic757:
Wow, ten months after Android Nougat was released, and just a few months before the official release of Android O.

I'm impressed. Not.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] nick_white:
Personally, I'm not in a big hurry given that there isn't Xposed for Nougat yet, there is no app "pressure" (I didn't find any app that doesn't work on Marshmallow), and there aren't any useful features (for example, multiwindow is not very useful on a 5 inch display).

However, I still want to know that my phone will survive with at least one major Android upgrade to prevent it from becoming obsolete...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] la.tong:
Its already June. Been waiting patiently and still waiting.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] bobbyphoenix:
When they say June, it usually means June 31st.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] la.tong:
Well I hope not
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
I just hope that since we are not getting any other update and after all this waiting, they give us a final 7.1 version and not the initial 7.0...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
What's the difference?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] :
The difference is a few tweaks and fixes not much ??
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] vicente001:
Lenovo confirms Android 8.0 for G4/Plus/Play, G5/G5S/Plus, Z/Z2/Play/Force

I hope this device has a long life!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] sgace2:
Link?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] bobbyphoenix:
http://www.xiaomitoday.com/moto-android-o/

EDIT - Interesting it only shows 1609, and not 1607. The other phones that have multiple models lists them, or says "all models". Hmmm
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
We'll see if this holds. I would be shocked to see Bell and/or Verizon driving the Android 8 bandwagon for the G4 Play series, especially on a non-flagship model. Expect a revised list of models in the coming weeks. Another potential upset: G5 Play (if it materializes).
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Rollout has begun! http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-7.1.1-Nougat-rollout-kicks-off-for-the-Moto-G4-Play_id95101
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Who said?

Any source?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Motorola said
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Guyz proof please!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
Guys, no way we're getting 8.0... I would love to, but c'mon seriously? It was some ****ty site that wrote that xt1609 is getting 8.0, but that's bull****. We should be happy if we get 7.1.1 in the first place.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Okay this say's not confirmed. But every phone that for android N say's that it will. So most like the Moto g4 play will get the update ? don't get angry at me for saying this. Only because u don't believe u get android O doesn't mean it won't!! Thanks in advance
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Here's the prove kinda....
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Well, 7.1.1 has just started rolling out slooooowly and we have already transformed this nougat thread into an Android O rumours discussion...!

Why don't you start a new one and stick here to 7.1 which we await impatiently day by day since it was confirmed? By the way, if anyone gets it in another country except Brazil, just let us know here so we can assess the progress - cheers to all
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
I'm not angry, I just don't want to rise false hope :D
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Almost had a...heart attack last night! :eek: Suddenly, update notification on my retail EU (south eastern europe) Moto G and it was just May security update... :p

Come on Lenovo, stop trolling and seed Nougat asap!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
I fail to see the heart stopping appeal of Android 7.x for this device. Yes, it will contain welcome incremental improvements over *stock* Marshmallow but doesn't bring any significant enhancements and is arguably less configurable than Android 6 given no Xposed. More of a status moniker IMHO.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wooser:
http://sihmar.com/software-update-mpis24-241-2-35-1-17-for-moto-g4-play/

:)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Hope you know it's not nougat again... Just a security update for Verizon
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wooser:
Really? :( I thought It was Nougat U_____U ... Wow When Nougat will be available for all versions of Harpia? :(
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Unless you are living in Brazil, join us on the waiting list...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wooser:
Oh Bro :(

So, only the XT1603 has the Nougat ROM?? :(

The other versions/models of Harpia only have MM ROM? :(

Joined to the waiting list....

Hey ! What happend If I installed a Stock Rom for the XT1603, can I get the Nougat Update? :)

https://xdaforums.com/g4-play/development/rom-retail-t3573775

I can download the XT1603 ROM and install MM, and Will I recieve the Nougat Update? :D
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wrusry:
There is a bug on Marshmallow that is causing me grief and I am hopeful that Nougat will fix that. That's why I'm very interested. I would have switched to a custom ROM, but I'm on the Amazon edition.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
What "bug" might that be? Perhaps there is a workaround.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I don't know about other problems, but when searching for a software update, the phone sends the software channel to the update server, and it responds back with a link (if available). To change the software channel, you would need to flash the stock rom through fastboot (or at least only the /oem partition, you can see that the build.prop gets a lot of info from the /oem partition, including the software channel).
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wrusry:
Here is the bug parameters:

1) Happens on the moto G Play Amazon edition. (I had my phone replaced from Moto with another one and same thing happens).

2) I am on the T-mobile network

3) When an iphone on the T-mobile network sends me a concatenated SMS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concatenated_SMS) (basically a SMS that is longer than 160 characters), I will receive only about half of them sent. My wife has an iphone so it is troubling when many times I don't get her frequently long texts to me.

4) If my wife puts a "subject field" in her texts, it will turn it into an MMS and I will always get those. She tries to do this, but she often forgets.

5) I have tried with other iphones on T-mobile network and I also do not get all of their SMSs. I will send myself 10 and get only 5 or so. When I check online, T-mobile shows me as having received them.

6) I have put my SIM card in other Android devices and I receive all the long SMSs.

7) I have put other T-mobile SIM cards in my phone and the same behavior persists.

8) I receive 100% of all long SMS messages sent from iphones from other networks as well as Androids sent from the T-mobile network.

That's the issue. I have tried Moto help and T-mobile help and they have been no help. I have not found anyone with the same phone on the same network that could test this out.

If I had known that the bootloader could not be defeated on the Amazon phones, I probably wouldn't have bought it. I don't mind the stock OS at all. In fact, I like it, but I don't like living with what seems to be a bug that affects me like this. I hope Nougat fixes this.....
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
Excellent problem synopsis. While not common this issue has been reported on and off with over the past two years. Always on T-Mobile with concatinated message loss going from an Apple device to an Android device on the same network. Some have speculated iMessage or T-Mobile inserts a 'null' character between messages which disrupts multiple SMS parts sent in rapid sequence. Others found dropping network speed to 2G on the receiving end fixed the problem. Obviously not a good solution.

While most messaging clients simply extract and (sometimes) reformat the contents of Android's native message archive Android Messages by Google works a little differently. Have you tried that client? You won't need to uninstall your current messaging client or risk loosing any data. I fully expect it to fail but it's an easy, low risk task.

There are other proprietary messengers of course (Telegram, WhatsApp, etc) but those require participation on both sides and are generally a PiTA if your primary community relies on traditional SMS/MMS.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wrusry:
Wow, you are the first person that I have contacted that has known anything at all about this. I feel less misunderstood now. :) .

The default client on my phone is Android messages. I have also tried Textra with no change. So, that is no solution.

I just tried setting my phone to 2G and I did indeed receive all messages, though some were delayed by 30 minutes. So, that isn't great, but I work from home and use wifi, so it may do that until Nougat arrives. Honestly, I'm expecting that the bug will still be there when Nougat is released. Is there a thread anywhere that mentions this issue? If so, can you point me to it? I would be curious to know if it is just the G4 Play or other variants and if it is only the Amazon versions, etc.

Thanks so much for responding!
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] DB126:
I share your pessimism regarding a G4P Nougat fix as the problem has been reported on various devices from different manufactures for 3+ years. Most workarounds are also off the table given locked and (at present) unrootable Amazon variant. At least you were able to change network mode to 2G; many unrooted ROMs won't allow that. Might try 3G which is fairly serviceable for low bandwidth activities.

Google is your friend. As always you'll need to separate crap from creditable while doing homework. At some point you and your spouse may opt for an alternative messaging method (eg: WhatsApp) if you wish to remain on non-homogeneous platforms linked via T-Mobile. Good luck.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] wrusry:
Thanks. I didn't know that other devices from other manufacturers had the same issue. I tried 3G instead of LTE and that also seemed to work, so that is a workable solution for me. Thanks again.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Don Davis:
Moto G4 play 7.1.1

Hi there

appreciate your efforts

Can someone please tell when can I get the Moto g4 play noughot update in India .

Although many of the devices got the update in USA and other places but still India is pending in the list .

Mind to reply

THANKS
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Saivilas98:
No one can tell you about this??

We'll have to wait till one more week I guess ?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanjay parsi:
Nougat started rolling out http://www.stechguide.com/install-android-7-1-1-nougat-on-moto-g4-play/
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] anonymous2211:
It's a soak test.
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Wow, this is the update file for manual flashing and I would be tempted to install but... Is it suitable for any device globally or region related some way?
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] bobbyphoenix:
I was thinking the same thing. I don't want to flash it on a US version, only to get a Europe firmware.

EDIT - I asked on the page's link. We'll see.....
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Nice try but don't bet you will get any reply...

Apart from the fact that the site is not well known, I searched in the zip file where there is a text document named after "harpia....etc"

If you read, ALL references are on 6.0.1 version and the numbering referring to the build is almost identical to our current marshmallow (HARPIA_MPIS24.241-15.3-etc)

My conclusion is that the guide is useful but the zip provided is either by mistake a copy of the current one or just another click n bait article on the web...
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] crailey01:
It works on the US Version xt1607 just fine
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
This is good news! Could you please post some screenshots from the about section so we can see if we can flash as well? (XT1602)
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] EmersonTR:
https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72941590&postcount=2
[Moto G4 Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dbal:
Plz delete