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[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] agentfusion:
Be patient. The XT1607 isn't even on the chart yet about what devices are eligible for unlock. It's the same model as the one sold unlocked by moto and Amazon, so I find it unlikely that it won't eventually get the unlock, but since it's only been out for 4 days now you need to chillax.

I plan to make a rom for cdma as soon as the unlock is possible, but it could be a few weeks/month.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] pegb856:
The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] agentfusion:
That's okay, it's still being sold direct from moto like the 1607 is as an unlocked cdma phone, so my statement *should* still apply. I think we're going to see a bootloader unlock very soon. Moto is just dragging their feet a little, I mean the stock restore images aren't even available yet for fixing a bricked phone.

As long as we're all patient, I really don't see this being one of the phones that doesn't get an unlock. It's in their best interest at this price point as an unlocked bootloader means some inexperienced users will brick them and since their bootloader is unlocked the warranty is void, which means they'll likely buy another to replace it because, let's face it: what other options are there for cdma, unlocked, under $200USD?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mx597turbo:
I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] texraid:
After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.

https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] agentfusion:
How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.

Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again

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This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mx597turbo:
Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.

Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] secandRRe:
well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] texraid:
No one said it was about carrier unlocking. I was just pointing out the difference between the model numbers.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mx597turbo:
Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] agentfusion:
I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] vgs929:
I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] secandRRe:
No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked :(
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] vgs929:
I returned it. I'll probably end up paying the extra $50 and get the unlocked version.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] ryanl2299:
Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.

Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.

(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)

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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] ryanl2299:
I would imagine that all the G4 Plays are the same (hardware wise) and the GSM would be a software thing. I'm just making an assumption based on previous models, but it wouldn't matter much anyway if Moto/Verizon didn't allow anyway around it. Maybe someday someone will unlock one of these and we can test it out. Just a little curious.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Manuelfbriceno:
HI

I have my xt1607 bricked, even no solution? Thank you
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
How did you do that?

What were you trying to do that bricked your phone?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Manuelfbriceno:
hi

nstallable fastboot

I can not install or the gpt, boot files, among others, I also worked RSDLite
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DanHutchins:
I got mine from u.s. Cellular, unlocked network and completely de-bloated for $30.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Chariblaze:
Was this in-store, or a sale online (where it's $50 right now)?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DanHutchins:
It was a deal in store. Had to activate and add time to it to get it for that price. It was at the us cellular store.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] alal4:
Thanks for the tip. You mentioned it's unlocked network - does it mean it works with other carriers (e.g. AT&T, T-Mobile) by jut replacing the SIM card? And you get both voice and data?

We don't have US Cellular stores nearby, so possibly thinking ordering online.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DanHutchins:
Yes I'm running it on straight talks at&t sim now.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] alal4:
That's interesting. And it works out-of-the-box, without complex configuration changes or rooting?

Also, how do you like the phone so far? Read some reviews complaining the interface response was a bit slow and a step backwards compared to previous generations.... Though at certain prices, the trade-off would be worth it.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DanHutchins:
Yes works out of the box. I have had no issues with it being slow but that may be because it's completely de-bloated. Also came that way from the store.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] billydroid:
Has anyone tried sunshine by [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] to unlock the xt1609?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] jcase:
not supported
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] billydroid:
Darn
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DroidNewbi:
So just to clarify as i am new to this. I was looking at the phone as bestbuy has it for 35 bucks. So from what i read it is not rootable correct? Thanks.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
That is correct. The Verizon branded Moto G4 Play is not bootloader unlockable or rootable.

For future reference please note that Verizon completely locks their phones down so to purchase a Verizon branded phone means you are at the mercy of Verizon until someone comes up with a root or unlock method for your phone.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Can I buy this phone and use my Cricket sim card in it?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
If you buy the unlocked version of the Moto G4 Play (xt1607) you can use it with any carrier. The Verizon version of the G4 play (xt1609) is locked to Verizon's network only.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
I asked because I've heard that all Verizon phones come GSM unlocked
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
Verizon's carrier unlock policy is different for their postpay accounts than it is for their prepay customers.

Here is their official unlock policy:

http://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy

Hope this helps.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
There's someone on eBay saying this can unlock it
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
Yeah I heard about that.

That may be possible but even if so, you may have problems making and/or receiving calls or possibly other issues.

You can always try it and see at your own risk.

If it works then great and if not, well you have a pretty good phone for only $35 dollars.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] AzWizzard:
Would this be a good option for turning into something like a Galaxy Player type device? I'm looking for something for my kid for just watching Youtube, playing some games, watching movies and listening to music (all on wifi only). Not looking for any cell data.

It's $35 at Bestbuy right now.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Christopher876:
Yes it is great for that. I had the $10 moto e last year from best buy and it makes a great WiFi and ViOP phone alongside my main phone. I have bought one of these as well and the snapdragon 410 chip is decent and it does support practically everything on the play store. Your kid won't have any problems using this phone for games, YouTube or even document creation.

Personally I would even tell you to buy your own as well as they make some quite handy mp3 players, reading and entertainment devices especially when off WiFi with it able to pull 11 hours of usage with gaming thrown in there.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Phenom727:
What I wanted to know was, if the Verizon version XT1609 gets unlocked, will it work with Verizon postpaid account? I mean, it's working on Verizon MNVO's, so why wouldn't work on Verizon's postpaid?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] juggamonkey:
Phone is working on my post paid Sim. Unlock code from eBay did not work for me locked my post paid Sim until i Had to buy 30 dollar prepaid plan and activate it then inserted my post paid Sim And everything is working after that
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Lare2:
This is exactly what I just did. I bought it for 35. Inserted a 64 GB card with my music. Installed Vanilla Music Player and nothing else.... And boom ... Cheapest touchscreen mp3 player.

Go for it
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] AzWizzard:
Good to hear! I ended up ordering 1 the other day. :good:
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] sga999:
I have ordered the Verizon prepaid Moto G4 play from BB, but it won't be here until next week. As you did, I want to use it without any Verizon plan. So I'm wondering about what happens during the configuration process.

There are videos for older models where the person was continually asked to activate the sim/plan, and eventually they got it to give up. But it looked like a long process of clicking back and cancelling many times. Other people seem to say the sim card would need to be removed in order to avoid these sim activation attempts.

Did you have to remove the sim? Or go through some long, repetitive process? Or was it something as simple as just saying you want to activate the sim later? Also, after you got it configured without using the sim, do you continually get some message about it not being activated? It would be great to avoid all those issues. Thanks!
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Lare2:
I removed the sim card as soon as I took it out of the box, even before inserting the battery.

On the configuration process I selected the option to setup using Wi-Fi and it continues the set up process as usual.

It's been working great, aside from the persistent "No Sim Card” Notification, no problems at all.

So I did not tried turned it on with the sim inserted, but if you remove it before first boot, there's no reason why you will have a different outcome as me.

Btw. It works great as an mp3 player. Plenty powerful for this purpose.

And the fact that the battery can be removed, you can buy extras and never be out of juice.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] sga999:
Lare2, did you intend to post a response there? I don't see anything!
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] eardz:
i bought two during cyber Monday. One is for chromecast audio, but I was hoping the other can be my trap phone. Unfortunately the bootloader cant be unlock so i'll just probably sell one.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] hadrons123:
I bought the XT1069 from BB and unlocked the device from this http://www.cellfservices.com/hc/en-us. But it seems to unlock only the LTE data with T-mobile/ATT sim cards. The calls doesn't go through using a GSM sim card. Any suggestions?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Time.Hope:
Hello,

After you activated your phone at Verizon network, did you try to put a non-Verizon SIM card in again to check if your phone can make phone calls and get LTE data?

Because when I unlocked the phone with the code, on the screen I got a message says "you can't make phone calls, even emergency calls until you activate your phone at Verizon networks". So I am thinking maybe this would work: unlock the phone by code, then activate the phone at Verizon network, and then insert other carrier's SIM card to start the service.

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Hello,

After you activated your phone at Verizon network, did you try to put a non-Verizon SIM card in again to check if your phone can make phone calls and get LTE data?

Because when I unlocked the phone with the code, on the screen I got a message says "you can't make phone calls, even emergency calls until you activate your phone at Verizon networks". So I am thinking maybe this would work: unlock the phone by code, then activate the phone at Verizon network, and then insert other carrier's SIM card to start the service.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] juggamonkey:
No sorry just have a Verizon post paid sim
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Time.Hope:
I just have T-mobile sim. I unlocked the phone by code, but just LTE data works, can not make phone calls.

Then maybe somebody with two companies sims can try this: use non-Verizon sim and code to unlock, activate the phone with Verizon sim. Turn off the phone, change back to non-Verizon sim to see if it fully works.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mrme12:
Any update on this topic will be great.

I tried getting an unlock code via ebay. But everytime I tried to dial a number it says Call Ended.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] ajb160:
Unlocked my XT1609 via ebay code using my RingPlus sim card.

Now when I have the Red Pocket CDMA sim card in, it says "Ready to Activate? Call Verizon" on the lock screen :(
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] clee666:
It makes sense since Verizon uses their CDMA network for voice. Just like AT&T or T-Mobile falls back to 3G for voice, unless you have one of those new VoLTE capable phone.

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Which provider on eBay did u use to get your unlock code?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] eksasol:
This one works for me: http://ebay.com/itm/221936302749

I disabled the OTA updated for a while hopefully there will be a bootloader unlock method by Justin Case, but I'm not banking on it.

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[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] acadiel:
I wonder if the Network utility from Google Play and some variants of the Moto E LTE adb commands might open up the other bands. This smells of a variant of what Verizon did with the E LTE (plus, they locked it too this time.)

FYI, my FCC ID is IHDT56VD4. FCC docs are here: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo..._id=r19dMBr5EylgiSuibV6XCg==&fcc_id=IHDT56VD4

According to the test documents, FCC ID IHDT56VD4 has all the bands, including GSM. (I looked at the CDMA/GSM one).

This simply has to be a software issue.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] brianhopper82:
I was able to root my LG G Vista pre-paid phone by Verizon.

Anyway, I'm here just to see if the Moto G4 Play XT1609 was rootable. I see that it isn't.

I remember when rooting phones was so much easier.

Thanks for the info
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
No problem.

Yep, I also had an LG G Vista that I rooted and installed Xposed on.

Unfortunately can't do that with this phone. :(
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] brianhopper82:
I sure wish that phone had more built-in storage. I actually was impressed by that phone besides the storage.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] classic757:
Yep, the G Vista was a very good phone that I think got overlooked. Almost no development for that phone.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] smithbobbyjoe:
I scored the $29 BF deal for this phone hoping it might have some potential for future development. Thus far, I've had success with a SIM unlock from Ebay and have tested it with a tracfone/verizon SIM and it all works. Otherwise, I'll be watching for root, and bootloader unlock, if either ever comes. I'm also very interested to see if it does have the "universal" radio in it with a software disable, but I suspect that the radio hardware is different on this 1609 model. I also got an unlocked G4 Play, and a CC G4 Play and am testing those and will post up in the other areas.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mi7chy:
For those wishing to use it on post paid Verizon they're currently having 50% off one month $50 prepaid card for $25.

https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/4g-sim-activation-kit/
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
Why would someone on postpaid buy this? Postpaid customers get SIM cards for free, and prepaid cards don't work on postpaid.

Additionally, if someone wants to use a Prepaid phone (like the XT1609) on Verizon Postpaid, they have to pay off the subsidy for the device listed on the back of the box. From what I recall, for the XT1609 it's $75 on top of whatever you paid for the physical device itself, putting it at close to the price of the unlocked XT1607.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] juggamonkey:
All I did to activate it on post paid was activate it through prepaid first. I bought a 30 dollar card for 15 bucks off Craigslist someone accidently bought. activated it on prepaid with that and was able to swap my postpaid sim in afterwards
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
Not sure when you did it, but it has since changed, at least on the newer models of the XT1609. This is the back of the box now: https://imgur.com/a/2c6li
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] juggamonkey:
That policy is out of date .new policy is phone must be activated with 1 month of prepaid service to be able to be used elsewhere. I just did it less than a week ago
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
What does it say on the back of your box? Does it just say 1 month, or does it say the same line about needing to pay $75?

The one-month policy was rolled out on February 2016. The Moto G4 Play was released on Verizon Prepaid in September. A month or so ago a new policy was put out: http://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy

Newer versions of the Verizon G4 Play have the line about needing to pay $75 ("amount specified on the back of the Phone-in-a-Box"). I'm guessing the G4 Plays that were put out prior to the newest policy (which don't have the line about needing to pay $75) still follow the older February policy.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] juggamonkey:
Actually I looked at Verizon policy from the site and what your saying is correct .but my box says the same thing as you posted .but I received a text saying the 1month thing and did that method and it worked afterwards I bought it from best buy last Monday but didn't activate it to wed ..weird indeed
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] mrme12:
So with ebay sim unlock can I use for tmobile or att?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] skyfxl:
Interesting. [MENTION=2296927]juggamonkey[/MENTION]'s experience seems to differ from what it says on the box as well as what the ebay listing for the unlock code says, namely:

Here's what I'd like to know:

What would happen if I put an already activated prepaid Verizon SIM card into the XT1609?

How is it that the Cellfservice unlock code does not come with the same stipulation about 30 days of use as the ebay unlock code?

How do these companies/people get these unlock codes? Are these Verizon/Motorola employees making money on the side? The Cellfservice page states:
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] AzWizzard:
Well, just on a side note...

I set this up to use as a media player for my kids (no cell connection). All I did was take the SIM card out before I turned it on the 1st time and then went through and set up Wifi. Works great! Added a 64gb memory card, downloaded some movies and music and games for them. Great for the $35 I paid for it!
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] smithbobbyjoe:
I can answer this one: I just activated a Boom mobile "V" SIM this morning using an idle LG Transpyre that passed their IMEI check. Next, swapped the SIM into my $29 XT1609, tested incomming/outgoing calling, texting, and data- all appear to be working great thus far! its showing LTE at the moment, so that's all I can comment on thus far. I've also tested it successfully a few weeks ago with a previously activated tracfone/verizon SIM and that worked fine too, so it seems like SIM swapping does in fact work; which is-- AWESOME! :laugh:
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] skyfxl:
Thanks for sharing! I guess where I was going with my question is - if the SIM you insert is already activated and has already been used for some time on another Verizon prepaid phone, does it perhaps permanently circumvent any locks that exist on the XT1609? For example, could I subsequently put in a post paid Verizon SIM card and have it work?
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] smithbobbyjoe:
Let me clarify some: If you insert ANY previous activated SIM, it will prompt you to enter the SIM Unlock code. I purchased an EBAY code for $2 to get past verizon's $75 "randsom" printed on the back of the orig packaging. That was an important fact I think I left out on my earlier post, sorry. You can search for an extensive thread about this particular problem on Howard Forums too. It appears to be the first such phone to require a SIM Unlock from Verizon, and a very very disappointing move from them (however not totally unexpected considering how they have done business forever).

So, once you SIM Unlock, yes- afterthat, I believe you can SIM swap freely with ?any? verizon or verizon mvno (previously activated) SIM card. Note, however, the risk of "hotlining" when trying to use a verizon pre-paid phone on verizon post paid! This has been tried by MANY (excluding me) and there are many many blogs about the topic. search "verizon hotlining" if you are not already familiar. good luck.
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] dr.faramroze:
We can try XT1528 Moto E2 Verizon method. It can be most likely changed to global mode.

https://cdmatool.ladesk.com/966197-Moto-E-2gn-2015-Verizon-XT1528-GSM-Unlock-Lollipop-51
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] DuMKaSD:
Was wandering the same thing, has anyone tried doing the Moto E trick? Can't find factory images yet, so don't want to risk not being able to go back to stock. Got it unlocked to use on T-Mobile on eBay for $2, data and SMS/MMS works fine, no voice however