yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Just in case you are experiencing something like this: Sandisk (and probably other SD makers) have some degree of built in data protection which may write a dirty-bit at the start of the drive when imminent failure is detected in order to prevent further data loss. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66365414&postcount=7. [EDIT] OT moved to linked thread about SD cards: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=71903921&postcount=13

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Yes and to your point, (I'm self quoting from Peregrine thread here), this is where we 1GB RAM devices users may be in "... a case where the newer devices have caused a universal and significant ROM component to out-pace a large # of lower memory devices".

There is a very good mathematical explanation of the camera RAM requirements in one of Gabriele's notes in this Jira ticket https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-326. One factor that makes it worse on Osprey 1GB models than Peregrine (also 1GB) is that Osprey runs the same app/services load with less free memory (150MB free in Osprey to 225MB free in Peregrine) in my usage case, which explains why apps are killed on 1GB Osprey more frequently than on the 1GB Peregrine.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] reeeju:
I alrdy did it bro....no prob:good:
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
fwiw, I consider a BRIEF discussion of SD cards to be very much on topic for the Moto G3 (2015) using LinOS in this thread. Especially considering the discussions of memory we've been having. It is VITAL. ymmv.

Correct - they have no MBR and no partition table. So put one on it.

Any comments/questions/successes/failures with that program - PM me! :)

I don't believe the feature existed before M. Assure a 10 speed-class card.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
My comment was not directed at you. It was directed at myself and you should stop making assumptions (here and in Jira tickets). In this case the assumption that, because I chose not to go off topic I was speaking to you. If I speak directly to something you say it will be in reply to you or will reference your name, like so...

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Assuming that you are speaking to the camera issue: No matter how big and red the font may be, this camera issue seems to have little to do specifically with OTAs (which I've never used) or available storage, and to your own point "RAM" and "Storage" are different.

I don’t see how formatting storage differently and encrypting it by using adoptable storage would affect the RAM usage in a significant way in regards to the camera issue, and the encryption might actually require more CPU cycles if not RAM. Also, considering the notable downsides and limitations of adoptable storage, this is not something people should test lightly without first doing research about what exactly Adoptable storage does.

To the point of the descriptions in the Jira ticket (including the excellent math write-up by G.), and the fact that this occurs on devices with 1GB RAM, it is a RAM limitation rather than a static storage limitation.

Also... I'm sorry to be so direct but, please stop spamming the Jira ticket. Your device is not even affected but you seem intent on arguing that this is a non issue as you say to developers: "I think you have done all you can", and that 1GB RAM device users should accept it "You are probably stuck with that as the best one can do panorama on a 1GB phone", and making assumptions about what others are doing, eg "wondering if this is largely a 1GB/8GB limitation, exacerbated by folks doing OTA updates which stores ROM in /data/data". An email is sent for each edit to everyone watching the ticket, and there have been 9 such edits from you today offering no new diagnostic content to the issue. The edit containing this statement is the exception and is spot on for this camera issue: "This has also helped me to realize that my testing many of these JIRA bugs/regressions is almost pointless as I have a 2GB Osprey."
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
Anyone here getting crashes using google maps on the osprey 1GB? My phone will reboot each time i open it unless i turn data off then it seems to function properly.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Try clearing cache and data in settings/ apps/ maps/ storage
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
Tried that and everytime i need to use location no matter with what app, the phone crashes if data is turned on. This is with all roms i have tried.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Thanks. Please post a screen capture of settings/ memory.

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If this is too much trouble, just copy the numbers on that screen and send them.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
screen shot

Here is the screenshot
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Thanks. within that, in memory used by apps, what are the top 3 apps and the amount of memory used?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
Android OS: 395 MB

Android system: 78 MB

Google Play Services: 62 MB
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Thanks. So not memory prob.

More questions: In settings/ location,

what mode,

Tap on google location history - on or off?

Tap on google Location Sharing - on or off?

recent location requests?

Thanks!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
History and sharing are off. Recents are google play services and maps
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Thanks - just checking the obvious basics -

clean flash?

which rom - date?

which gapps, date and size?

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edit: also please check google play store, 3 bars on left, "my apps and games" - anything need updating? please update it.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
Clean flash yes. Currently AOKP 7.1.2. Currently delta gapps but tried beans and open. I've flashed 6 roms today with different gapps and combinations. All roms do the same thing. I've tried this on three moto G3s and they all do the same. Each phone was a pre-owned from koodo so can they all be hardware defective?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Okay, hope you don't get yelled at for asking about AOKP on LinOS forum but you say you've been on there so I won't for now.

Let's try a different tack. grab GpsFix, stick phone out window and see if it finds the sats.

If it does, then:

Then grab GPS Status and see if it finds lat/long.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
haha had already ran gpsfix and once again will only run when i have data turned off. It finds all my location within seconds. If i run it with data on, it soft reboots the phone. It shouldnt matter if im on AOKP. It was the exact same results with LOS and all other roms.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Yeah, but some folks here get bothered. I don't mind in this case, but you should have LinOS flashed to be here.

However, given the history, I wonder if someone has flashed a funny radio, so I would suggest taking one phone and flashing it back to stock. Don't forget that you have to flash stock recovery first before you start the flash process, and that can be found in the expanded archive you're about to flash. (the bootloader will remain unlocked)

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/general/guide-fastboot-flashing-factory-t3187750

then, flash TWRP, backup that stock, and flash LinOS and try again. Other than that I am out of ideas.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
I've reflashed just the radio today from post #2 in the link you provided also i've tried factory install then custom rom. I suppose i can try a factory flash again and go directly to LOS. I will only try this tomorrow though. I am completely out of ideas like you and it is getting late here. Thanks for your help. :laugh:
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Since you're going to flash stock, boot that stock and try it in stock. If that fails, you should send the phones back to the seller.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] heebiejeebies:
I have this problem on an Osprey 1GB. It will crash any time an app tries to obtain a location (snap, google maps, etc.) To prevent the soft reboot, I had to change my APN type from "default,supl,mms" to "default,mms"

I am on the Telus network in Alberta. I have reproduce this on another Osprey 1GB handset. The problem happens after a clean flash or a clean flash with Opengapps and has been happening since the earlier CM14 builds, as far as I can recall.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
It might be worth checking out this Jira ticket in which similar reports seem to be associated with GPS and or radio states https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-248.

[MENTION=5274251]jackching[/MENTION], this may (or may not) also apply to your situation.

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FYI: Those statistics are averages over the past 3 (or however many) hours which are informative in some contexts but dont indicate the exact amount of memory in use (or more importantly - free) at a given moment (such as when a problem occurs). I dont know if there is a way in the native ROM to tell how much memory is available at a given moment but I use an app called "System Monitor Lite" for that. As an example of the difference in these stats: At present my Osprey reports 190MB free (averaged over the past 3 hours while the device was mostly sitting on a desk), but as reported by System Monitor Lite the actual available RAM at this moment is ([EDIT] Bad stats replaced 95MB 150MB). Whether or not this speaks to your issue, it's still good to know how much available memory the device has at the moment when a problem occurs.

[EDIT] Disclaimer, everything I'm describing/recommending is based on LOS14.1.

As to AOKP... AFAIK we have them to thank for one of my favorite additions to CM/LOS which is the left/right cursor navigation buttons in the navbar. :)

[EDIT] This resulted in some testing of system monitors. 'System Monitor Lite" may have degenerated into crap and be under reporting free memory. Most other apps, including "System Panel2", "Simple System Monitor" and "Aida64", report active free memory closer to the average, but the point being - when something crashes, the amount free at that moment may be more important than the average although not to the exclusion thereof.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
[MENTION=5274251]jackching[/MENTION] take note.

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If the workaround there doesn't help, try installing the previous build (or even 2 ago) as this seems very recent. Let me know if that works as I'll have you comment that bug.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] riggerman0421:
FWIW, I had issues getting a GPS fix with Google maps, GPS Fix and GPS Status. The only remedy I found was to uninstall the latest update to Google maps. This is on a pure stock unrooted 2gb/16gb Osprey. If I cleared cache and data on maps, it would get a fix after approx. 30 seconds and then lose it shortly after that. Don't know if there was an issue the version of maps I was using ( auto updated from the play store) or if it has been fixed since (two weeks ago). I'm currently on a work boat in the Gulf Of Mexico and can't test right now.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Do try it again with the current build when you get a chance, and let us know if you're still having problems.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
Well heebiejeebies, it looks like you're the winner. Removed supl from APN type and maps is now working like a charm including all other location apps. I've put hours of research into this and thats all it was the whole time causing soft reboots?? I will test to see if this cures random reboots i was getting even while the phone was idle. If it does i definitely owe you a case of beer. I am on the koodo network which is actually telus. Thanks to all you other folks who tried to help me also. I will report back. Still cant believe reboots were caused by simple apn settings.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Huge thanks. Could you log on to jira and add that comment please?

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-248

also, if you would, please add carrier and country as that may be a big factor. THANKS!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] heebiejeebies:
This is a problem with PC Mobile as well, which is another MVNO using Telus's Network.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure that the problem doesn't occur on Freedom (formerly Wind) Mobile's network...
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for confirming. Whether that is going to be the permanent fix in the ROM, or the fix requires more work, the issue is getting some attention thanks to the reports and votes.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Could you please be so kind as to share that info as a comment on that bug? Huge thanks!!! It may help them find a fix! Carrier seems important!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] jackching:
I see comments there but dont see a way to leave a comment.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] xfahim:
Is 'Okay Google' from any screen working in this rom right now?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Mimisf:
Yes!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] davidstelephone:
Memory use seems to be a little over the top. It's showing 751MB Average use out of 899MB. I'm getting OOM errors trying to run things which shouldn't even make it break sweat.

eg:

Failed to allocate a 44728332 byte allocation with 16777216 free bytes and 30MB until OOM
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] EvilHowl:
In 6.0.1 stock & CM13 I had near 800MB RAM usage and in this CM14 I have the same as you. I don't think RAM is broken.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Mimisf:
Yeah same too. Ram isn't broken. Our phone is shi*y :p
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] keeithlv:
Stable Enough?

Just wanted to know if the ROM is now stable 'enough' to run as a daily driver? :)
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] treebaard:
mine's been 'up' since 21/9.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] keeithlv:
cool!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Mimisf:
Yes it is!!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] keeithlv:
Also do updates for 'Unofficial' CM come via OTA?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Agu_Ra:
No, they don't until the nightlies start.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] keeithlv:
And is that when it'll get Official?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Marília de Oliveira:
Installed the super su v78 and my device does not recognize the network
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Sal12538:
Yes, currently CM14 isn't official yet for our device. It will be soon. And that is when we will start getting nightlies. You are correct.

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Cyanogenmod is already rooted. I think you might know that (just wanna help out), it can be enabled in developer options. And you dont need to flash super su, if you want to use super su as the default root privelage app, just download using play store (as far I know).
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Hedied4me:
Don't flash SuperSU alone. Always flash with rom/gapps
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] georgetoneverland:
I used the roms in the last two days and it worked beautifully.

But this morning, after I made the first call, I could not call.

When I try to call it comes off almost immediately with a small sharp noise, ideas?

EDIT: I can not even connect to the internet
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] hareshsangar:
May be you have flashed super su.. because it leads to problems related to RIL
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] georgetoneverland:
I just flashed the ROM and gapps nano, ver. arm

But I turned, I do not remember exactly when, the root functions of nova launcher .. could be a relationship?

Thanks :)
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] hareshsangar:
Bro , there are no problem in using inbuilt root function of Cm...

Then there may be something else...

You can go in flashback and remind what did you changed before this problem started...:good:
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Queiroz1:
Hi guys, first of all, Nice JOB alberto. Still havent upgraded yet but will certainly do. I have 2 questions, is it good for daily driving on my moto G? And does this rom fixes the annoying error of the micro sd keep getting unmounted and eventually getting damaged? Its the 2nd microsd my moto "burns".
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
You have to create an account and log-in, then click the "All" tab, then scroll to bottom to "Comment"
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] heebiejeebies:
Done. I wasn't​ able to access jira before yesterday...
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/B...issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13308
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
thanks!

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sir itm - nice catch. Thanks.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
When there is nothing on TV I sometimes watch the Jira activity stream :)

[EDIT] Also, please don't take this as grousing, this is said with a genuine smile and ironic humor (as it should have been when I mentioned it at Jira). There really is another XDA member named ITM. I find that very frustrating because that is the abbreviation I use when I can, and respond to like a dog to a bone.

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So that was you who posted the fix. I wasn't sure. If so, you move fast!
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Dashboard at top - register and log in, and then you can leave a comment - just takes a minute. Thanks!

https://jira.lineageos.org/login.jsp

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Rogers plus Telus...
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] Zarstinton:
Hi all,

I upgraded from CM13.0 to Lineage and got almost everything working. The only remaining problem is the Bluetooth connection to my car. The pairing is succesful and incoming phone calls are working. But neither the address book nor the connection list is synced. The short messages are synced after giving the permission on the phone. If I try to force a contacts sync from the car, the car immediately reports failure while the phone does not seem to react at all.

Phone: Moto G 1GB XT1541

Country: Germany

Installed:

lineage-14.1-20170413-nightly-osprey-signed.zip

open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170415.zip

addonsu-arm-signed.zip (root activated)

Car: Volkswagen Touran 2016 with Discover Media

Sorry if this is a repeat, but a search didn't show anything related. And I did not go through all 420 pages of posts.

TIA

Uwe
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] kagowtham:
I moved from lineage os to stock rom by using twrp backup,now play store stopped working when downloading some apps like chrome, Facebook etc

Any solution for this,I do data wipe but no use
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
Assuming you have re-booted both,

Take a look at:

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-267?jql=text ~ "bluetooth"

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-96?jql=text ~ "bluetooth"

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/REGRESSION-130?jql=text ~ "bluetooth"

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/REGRESSION-294?jql=text ~ "bluetooth"

and see if any of them provide any ideas.

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what date, arm, 7.1 , size gapps are you using?

Also, look in google play store, 3 bars on left, "my apps and games" and see if anything needs updating, and update it.
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] kagowtham:
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what date, arm, 7.1 , size gapps are you using?

Also, look in google play store, 3 bars on left, "my apps and games" and see if anything needs updating, and update it.[/QUOTE]

In lineage os no problem on gapps7.1 ,but when I go to stock rom using twrp ,I got this problem in playstore
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
wierd. go to settings/apps/3 dots/show system/google play store/ clear cache and data

if that doesn't fix it do settings/apps/3 dots/show system/google play store/ force stop, disable, then enable, and check google play for updates as described above.

if that doesn't fix it do the same thing to google play services.

If not, you may have to reflash stock.

EDIT did you wipe before you restored stock?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] RijuSarkar:
[MENTION=4480917]Alberto97[/MENTION]

why not a complete redesign of the FM radio app?

FM radio in the original moto g3 marshmallow was awesome.........but the radio bundled with this rom or other aosp roms are not that great.......can it be changed?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
what date rom, what gapps?
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] RijuSarkar:
first of all.............gapps doesnot have anything to do with fm radio.......so what gapps is obsolete.......rom is 6 april build........as that is an aosp fm radio ....that will be same in all previous or upcoming builds i think
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
true. I don't use it but just plugged headphones in and seems to work fine. What isn't it doing that you want?

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apparently there was a commit that went in for the 4-13 - try that one.

https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-271?jql=text ~ "fm"
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] RijuSarkar:
okay.........i used moto fm radio when in stock marshmallow..........it was perfectly material designed and worked awesome..............this aosp radio is not per our beloved fm radio by moto........so design is the factor........again in the background when i press next/ previous for other stations the station changes.......but the name remains same.........take this example.........suppose i am listening to radio station B...........previous one is A and next one is C...........if i press next then C station appears.........but in the shortcut icon still show station B.......same for if u move to statiopn A............i am trying to say that the radio is ok.........but not as per the experience offered by moto radio.........i tried moto radio here too.........but that does not work..........maybe motorola optimized it for the stock version.........eagerly waiting when someone like lost101 will make a 7.1.1 rom on osprey .........pure stock debloated
[Moto G 2015 Original Android Development] KrisM22:
If play store doesn't offer anything of interest, you could always wait until the weekend and file a jira bug and suggest new features and see if they have any interest. https://jira.lineageos.org/login.jsp register, log in and choose bug or nightly/weekly. not regression.

Or perhaps a different custom ROM would work better for you.