yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Please don't flame me, I just want to check something..

Are we sure, ALL variants of this device are 100%

HARDWARE

compatible?

If AT&T guys guys are getting Soooo many problems..

Can we not look down the road that something is different to their devices apart from ROM? Maybe AT&T did a deal to buy the BETA devices produced for a good business deal? We need to check on this.

Just a thought! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Mine is a HTC TyTN II, not a Tilt, and I have/had the issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Yes but I wonder if ALL HTC/kaiser/tilt sold in the US is somehow HW different from worldwide?

I don't have any of the major problems reported here so I would like to check!!

What we need is reports from people.. Location, Version of phone, carrier and ROM install...

Then we can start building a picture! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Personally, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. But I guess anything's possible. BTW, I got mine thru a guy who got it via Europe. Esp. since it came with TomTom Navigator taster app. All the US ones didn't have that. So, mine wasn't "sold in the US" even though I live in the US.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] woogal:
There have been a few people not from the US that have posted in this thread saying they have the problem, so it's already pretty clear this has nothing to do with location, network, or hardware variant.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
I am not sure how that can be justified with others posting on here that dont have the problem. :o

Anyway, forget that. What if the guys having the problem compare added applications (.cab's) on their units (including the ones that load on pre-config from hard-boot) to see if there may be something running in the background causing this. Also, do the people with the problem have an 'Always on' data connection. Is your unit polling for mail periodically? Things like these would be good to look at. :)

One other last thought, is the 'click' during the middle of tracks or is it when the track changes? Some ripping software puts an automatic gap between tracks that can not be smoothed out by internal buffering between files! (I hate to say this but iTunes SW on the PC automatically checks for track gapping removal as I do own an iPod as well..)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wc3sam:
i had the same problem turned off wifi went away. just a idea
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jeffreii:
i don't use wifi nor have the data connection active or open while listening to mp3s and having this problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Please! don't just say it does not work!! give the guys here something to work from or this is a waste of time!!! (Unles you are just her for another FLAME!!)

Soz, my mantra failed for a mo!! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jeffreii:
i searched my registry for anything with "priority256" using PHM Regedit. I found 9 keys - none having a higher (lower number) priority than 100. I guess I will give values 10, 99 and 100 a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jeffreii:
the post above mine states that turning off wifi solved the problem for him. my post states that wifi is not a factor with my device when having this problem - thus showing that this problem is not caused by wifi.

in your post you asked about the data connection and i was also stating that that was not the culprit either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
I am sorry, you may be thinking I am quoting you but if the reply does not include your post then I am not..

When we put posts on this forum there is a BIG delay. when I say something without a quote it is in general to the thread...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Just wanted to let you guys know I finally got around to testing this on my Kaiser and I cannot reproduce the glitch. I'm also pleasantly surprised with the quality (TCPMP + equalizer), can't wait to test it on the Sennheisers I ordered.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
I have now NOT experienced the glitch or skip in the last week...the only thing I've changed....I flashed my phone with a different rom and updated my radio drivers.

I did read that ATT packaged the audio drivers in with the radio drivers so maybe that had an effect on things.

I am running CUSTEL's 2.1 Touch rom, other info is in my signature. I had two 3 hour drives this weekend in my car and never once had a glitch using PocketMusic 5.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Biker_Bob:
My T-Mobile Vario III (Kaiser) also has this problem, bizarrely though it glitches when I plug the headphones into the device, but is perfect streaming over A2DP.

Also, with wired headphones the music will glitch and skip if I use the device, say, open a spreadsheet - again, this doesn't happen with A2DP.

So, it looks to me like the wired audio is too low a priority and gets interrupted by anything else, whereas the A2DP is high priority and always gets the processor time it needs.

Does anyone know where these things are set in the Registry?

BTW it doesn't matter what player I use and what media I'm playing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Has anyone with the problem (I don't have it so can't test this) tried changing the value of...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev\ Priority256 key??

On mine it is set to DWORD 149 (Dec), maybe it's different on yours...

Make a note if its different to re-enter if it has no effect. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Biker_Bob:
It's the same on mine - should I increasing it ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jbiebes:
Laakness,

Could you be more specific about what you did to cure the problem? I'm quite curious, since you may be the first to have come up with a plausible solution. Did you change the ROM and update the radio drivers at the same time? Or is it possible that only one or the other is necessary?

I'm new to the whole ROM-manipulation issue, but if you're 100% certain that this cured your problem, then I'll consider embarking on this path. Anyone else with similar experiences?

Thanks,

Jesse
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
Well, all the information on how to flash the phone is found in the Kaiser Upgrading forum which is one level up from this one: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378

You first have to install HardSPL which allows you to flash custom(unsigned) roms/radio drivers to your phone. Once that is on then you can flash any of the roms you want.

CUSTEL's 2.1 Rom requires the radio drivers in my signature. This is because ATT seems to have packaged the audio in with the radio. I think some people had no sound when using a newer rom but older radio drivers.

The answer then is yes, I did both at the same time. First the radio drivers and then the OS/rom itself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jbiebes:
Thanks, Laakness for the brief instructions. I'll read more about the details -- seems like I've got a lot of research to do!

But one more question: What ROM/Radio were you using before you made the switch? The AT&T out-of-box stuff, or something else entirely?

Jesse
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Rereading this thread, I've noticed that people are misunderstanding the Priority256 key. A lower number is HIGHER priority. In other words, if you have it set to 0, and it happens, it's no use setting it to a number higher than 0, since that would have even less beneficial effect.

Also note that I posted before I did not have this issue. I do, I heard it yesterday.

EDIT: I have modified another registry value as well, and it seems to work, but I've only listenend for 15 minutes or so after applying it. First I do the usual:

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev\Priority256 DWORD 1

But I also did

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN\Priority256 DWORD 2

also I am not an audiophile :) Somebody else take a listen!

EDIT: Nope, head the glitch again :/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
ATT stock right from the store.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] johnnychimpo:
Im having the same issue with my mogul. its a random skipping/ glitch. I think it has something to do with the data connection signal strength. It mainly happens when im in the library or enclosed building. It does not happen when im outside at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] teejaylentz:
Skip Issue Solved w/ new ROM

I found the skipping VERY annoying and am surprised that they would ship a device with this defect. I just updated to the Alex Clean 1.6 ROM and it fixed the problem for me. I think it may have something to do with the the radio; at least for the ATT Tilt. Alternatively, perhaps there is some software running in the background which isn't there in Alex's ROM.

-Terry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] unorthodoxx:
I've been watching this post for sometime now and want to share my two cents.

I have the random skipping when listening to music from my storage card Sandisk 6G through Pocketplayer and also Mortplayer.

Strange thing though is I don't get any stuttering when listening to music through Resco Radio over HDSPA enabled 3G. I also get no glitch when the music comes through Resco Radio to my BT stereo headset!?

I began to wonder if it was the card but then again maybe it isn't because the streaming music gets cached there along with my mp3s, I'm not sure?

...and I just knew the Kaiser would out perform my Wizard in the media department!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rockendoublez:
I too have the A2DP music skipping problem

The skip is very faint but noticeable. I am running the ATT original ROM v 1.57.502.2. I play my music from a 4gb Patriot SDHC MicroSD. The skip happens between 3 and 7 minutes and is random. Its starting to get slightly annoying. I have not tried the A2DP Fix.cab yet as I am waiting to see more success stories or at least a solid resolution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SlimJ87D:
SOmetimes the skip causes my phone to freeze. ANyone find a solution yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Broadbent:
I have the same service/rom... What player and headset do you use? I use the ht820 same prob. might be my headset, or it might be a cpu/memory problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
The A2DP Fix.cab did nothing to the skipping problem on my Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zetajunkie:
Did you try adjusting your bitpool settings? Or use Kaiser tweak to do so? It's supposed to help. I haven't experienced too many bt skips with the Kaiser (compared to the 3125 or wizard), and the ones that i have, i attribute to the signal being blocked by random objects.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greenbrd:
LOL. "Audiophile Steve" has been posting on the Cingular Forum since November that "we should all return our Tilts and get an iWhatever because they play music PERFECT".

I'm surprised he hasn't changed his name to "Videophile Steve" and chimed in on the video driver issue with the same spiel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
No...I haven't tried changing the bitpool setting. The reason being that (see above) my skipping problem only occurs when I also have my car's handsfree system connected...and now only sometimes. So with the bitpool setting left as its default value I do get perfect audio...just not when I'm in my car (and signal blockage is not the problem in my case because my kaiser is sitting right next to the bluetooth receiver at the time).

As crazy as it may sound, I'm starting think (due to some troubleshooting I've been doing) that my kaiser's problem is related to repllog.exe starting up periodically due to the NOTIFICATION_EVENT_TIME_CHANGE. You see I have the Kaiser set to change time automatically via the phone --> services --> time synchronization setting...so I'm wondering if everytime I change cellphone towers my phone updates the clock and this then triggers repllog.exe to fire up and try and do its task...which in turn pushes the processor over the edge and causes it to drop some of the A2DP streaming...and hence stuttering. There are locations in my drive home from work where I know the phone is hoping back and forth between cell phone towers and this is always where my A2DP streaming skips the most. Anyway...over the next few days I'm going to try and leave the phone --> services --> time synchronization disabled and see if that resolves my kaiser's skipping problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drburk:
Overclocking an answer?

I am a newbie here (first post) and have the same skipping problem while using my bluetooth headset - I was complaining about this glitch to a salesguy at a Fry's store who had one also and had the problemm as well - he said he overclocked the phone (somehow) and it solved the problem. I have read since then that overclocking a tilt will suck the battery life to nothing. --- any thoughts on this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Lev00:
Mine also has the same problem, I use a wired audio connection, never tried BT. The glitch has been bugging the hell out of me, and I was wondering if I too was the only one who had the problem. I use both HTC Audio Manager and Resco Radio, I can confirm it glitches on the Audio Manager, but I'll have to pay attention next time I use Resco.

Here's some spec's on my phone:

Stock AT&T Rom, 1.57.502.2

Rom Date 8/25/07

Radio 1.27.12.11
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] spineytoad:
I have the same setup as Rumball, except for the headset, I've been using the Jawbone, I have also tried to see if the skip occurs with a blueant z9 head set, it does. I believe it is connected to the towers, at my house I can be streaming audio to my car all day long and not get a skip. I can run around in my area all day and not get a skip, but at one spot on the freeway, just coming into town it starts to skip and will not stop, I never thought of the time checking, I thought it was some sort of polling because it happens at the same spot all the time. I will try to shut off syncing the time to see if that stops it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xenoflits:
I have those skips as well I am playing a playlist of songs through GSplayer. At random places around 3-4 minutes it skips. Nothing running that could interfere. At first I thought it was some buffering problem, but changing buffer sizes fixes nothing. I notice it a lot when I have the stock headset on.

Mda vario 3

Tmobile netherlands

Stock rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SatScan:
I had also this problem in the beginning with a stock ROM.

Now with the new ROM all clear. Problem solved! see my Sig
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Glad to hear (sorry ) that I'm not alone in my problem...I was thinking I was the only one that notice skipping when in certain parts of my city ... it sounded crazy. Just to note that I have disabled Time Syncronization on my Tytn-II and I still get the skipping in those spots of the city. I'm sure it must have something to do with cell phone towers...as the skipping is so repeatable on my drive to/from work each day. I guess the next possibility is that the phone is switching between Edge and 3G. Where my skipping occurs is near the outskirts of my network's 3G coverage. I think I'll try setting my phone to use the Edge network only while I'm in the car and see if that resolves the skipping.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SatScan:
Yeah... i had this to... but after update to other ROM and RadioROM problems gone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Thanks...maybe I'll try that as well...I'm currently using Radio version 1.27.15.32 an ROM version 1.82.721.1 WWE.

Not sure if I want to move to W6.1 yet...so I may just try the radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scilor:
i also get skips during music playback :/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Just an update:

I haven't tried flashing a different Radio as suggested but I have definitely narrowed the problem down to the following:

1) Streaming audio over bluetooth via A2DP

+

2) Tytn II also connected to a handsfree device

In this scenario when the phone switches cell towers the A2DP skips horribly.

I have confirmed this by using the program PhoneAlarm to log the cell phone towers my phone is connected to. My A2DP stuttering/skipping problem coincides with every change in cell phone tower. Very annoying....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Stay0Puft:
I'm not a 100% sure, but I'll tell you my findings.

At first I played my music with GsPlayer and that resulted in that skip every few minutes.

Now I switched to Mortplayer and I don't recall getting a skip so far.

In Mortplayer there is an option to set the player's volume control to match the phone's volume control and that is option active on my Kaiser (the description of this option tells me it is to counter skips).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aikidoka-mks:
I have this problem on my sprint touch. It seems that turning airplane mode on takes care of it. Just make sure your signal meters have x on them so you know airplane mode is on. Give it try then and see if it works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Yes, this works as well since the phone isn't on and therefore doesn't have to switch cell phone towers. However, this isn't a viable work-around since I like to have my phone on in the car and connected to my car's handsfree system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aikidoka-mks:
Yeah, I don't like it either. I wish there was a real solution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
Ok, so I've found a work-around that eliminates the horrible A2DP skipping that occurs sometimes when my Tytn-II is switching cell phone towers (and while also connected to my car's handsfree system).

I noted that when the skipping problem is occuring, that if I cycle A2DP and bluetooth off and back on again that it will work until the next time I get in my car. I haven't figured out what exactly is happening with the Tytn-II but something in the span of my day at work messess up the bluetooth in my phone (perhaps my auto bluetooth activesyncing...who knows). Anyway, toggling bluetooth and A2DP on/off seems to straighten out bluetooth in my device again.

So here is what I did to solve my problem.

1) I use three programs together: PhoneAlarm (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html), Mortscript (http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=ms_overview&action=view) and A2DP Toggle (http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1626)

2) I have PhoneAlarm configured to automatically switch to a "Car" profile when my car's handsfree system connects to my Tytn-II. Switching to the Car profile triggers the execution of a Mortscript (via PhoneAlarm's "Run Program" on profile change setting).

3) The mortscript automatically toggles Bluetooth & A2DP off/on. The actual morscript code is:

# Lock car profile for two minutes since shutting off bluetooth will cause PhoneAlarm

# to transition out of the car profile

Run "\windows\paWakeup.exe", "-ll2"

# Toggle A2DP ON/OFF

Run "program files\teksoft\A2DPToggle\a2dp.exe", "-a2dp: on"

Sleep 1000

Run "program files\teksoft\A2DPToggle\a2dp.exe", "-a2dp: off"

Sleep 1000

#Toggle Bluetooth off/on

Run "program files\teksoft\A2DPToggle\a2dp.exe", "-bluetooth: off"

Sleep 2000

Run "program files\teksoft\A2DPToggle\a2dp.exe", "-bluetooth: on"​

So now...when I start my car's engine, the car's handsfree system automatically connects to my Tytn-II which switches my phone to car profile and automatically cycles A2DP and Bluetooth ON/OFF. At this point bluetooth is "cleaned up" and if I chose to listen to music on my stereo I can tap on A2DP Toggle to reconnect A2DP and start playing music. At this point the audio is skip free. Also, because this workaround doesn't involve messing around with degraded bit pool or sampling settings I don't have any impact on sound quality. I'm so happy that I no longer have any skipping problems when driving through cell phone tower transition regions in the city!!!:D

Well...hopefully others out there may find this helpful if they are experiencing the same problem. One could also add to the mortscript to automatically leave A2DP connected and to automatically start their music player.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rumball:
:mad: Ok...so I gotta come back and say that my previous post on a workaround no longer works for me.

Still having problems with skipping during cell phone tower transitions...but only on specific towers in the city...very weird. Honestly...I can leave home and be listening to perfect music for 20-30 minutes and then when I hit a certain part of the highway where a cell-phone tower hand-over occurs and every morning the skipping starts. Very frustrating. Skipping is also a LOT more frequent and lengthy when 3G/WCDMA is enabled so I've resorted to having PhoneAlarm switch the Phone Band to GSM while in the car which does help things somewhat. HTC did respond to my questions on this topic but said that the problem must be lack of shielding in my car's handsfree system. I'm not sure I buy this explanation because the skipping doesn't occur for all cell phone tower hand-overs...just very specific regions of my city...and I'm not quite sure how interference with my handsfree system would cause skipping of my car stereo's AD2P input...

I think now I'll have to try different ROM-Radios. Perhaps now is a good time to upgrade to WM6.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tiberiusva1:
Have you tried disabling your data connection while driving in the ca?. This may not be ideal but whenever a new tower connection occurs a signal should be received identifying the type of data available (GPRS,EDGE,3G, etc) and perhaps the extra activity in RILGSM is the problem. I think that Bluetooth also works through RIL and may be getting blocked or delayed by extra activity on the Data/vocie data connections. during cell tower switching on a GSM phone messages for signal quality, celltower info, service changes, etc are procesed by you phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mimimui:
Oh God.. I'm really desperate with the skipping... The reason I've bought Tytn2 is to combine my mp3 and camera into one phone... But now, how disappointing is the music playback and the camera refresh rate!!!

I've tried every method i can find from web to fix this but none of these work... :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] whk:
OK -

I have the January ROM from AT&T on my phone. Here is what I notice when listening to music -

(BT Stereo motorola phones)

If I get an email or anything else that voice command sends the phones go to mono WHILE LISTENING TO MUSIC - I realize that voice command is about to kick in and then it clicks and voice command kicks in and reads the message then it goes back to music in MONO and then back to music in stereo.

The "skip" that I hear on mine is that the music goes silent - I say to myself - I am about to get a phone call and then the music comes back. SO - here is MY guess - the phone is doing something that ties up the processor so much that it cannot play music - it is either:

1. dropping the internet connection like I told it to

2. setting up the internet connection like I told it to to check for emails

3. checking emails

4. doing something else on a timer basis

and one of these or all of these things interrupt the flow of the music.

I now have a longer and more often "gap" now that I have put SU2U and the HTC player on my machine - the old windows player did not do it as often.

Bill
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ahussam:
I've got an AT&T Tilt with DCS 1.7 rom, I use both Media Player and HTC Audio Player through both HTC BT stereo Headphones and through the mini-USB->3.5mm converter in my car and I have to say The sound quality is excellent, no glitches or whatever at all, I've listened to single MP3s longer than 20min each and sound is very smooth, I've a 6GB card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dasbuch:
recently purchased a Tilt. Experience the same problem with the audio glitch. It happens at intermittent times.