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[MTCD Android Head Units General] naplesbill:
Can you connect some other video source to the Joying input? Would at least prove out the camera is the problem
[MTCD Android Head Units General] vinhZ:
I think this is app dependent. I can switch to external storage with Google Play music. But in youtube, only internal storage is available as an option.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Andromeda_Station:
A regular 9 volt battery is plenty for most backup cameras... I usually plug a camera into my television and borrow a battery from the smoke alarm to test it.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Ejpi16:
Nice man!

I already did it with the settings.apk file and you get the original settings menu back :)

When i have some time i will copy the systemui file to see what it does. Perhaps there are more interesting files to copy?

What were the noticeable things you have seen after your copied the files?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Kurt Lund:
Hi Vassandrei,

I followed you instruction and installed the normal SystemUI and Settings. Great instructions. Thanks. So far I have only seen two problems. The volume sound bar has dissapeared and as you noticed yourself. The statusbar icons are tiny.

Regards

Kurt
[MTCD Android Head Units General] vincel892:
Can you link me to the product on aliexpress? cant seem to find it
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Smoking some strong stuff......or fumes.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Johnboy6:
https://aliexpress.com/item/New-JOY..._1&btsid=e80b94ad-e187-4ca5-a38b-a2a5d14d0d7a
[MTCD Android Head Units General] vincel892:
Thanks. Are you going to order this? I'm still hesitant.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Johnboy6:
I'm willing to, but more reviews would be a lot better. Everyone's worried about apps working or not, if does it have root or not. I'm only concerned about the basics like radio reception and sound quality (music and calls) and I know that's pretty subjective what is good for one isn't for others. I like 3 way car stereos, subwoofer level control, 2 phones connected at the same time...things like that, the 1 and 2 I know I won't have it...so I'm still considering...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] ikerg:
Rooting has been confirmed. Modded apps shall be compiled to x86 as rk3188 is ARM based...

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] vincel892:
just spoke to the seller on aliexpress. he says that it is still the 1 gb and the 2gb will not be available for another week. It will also increase in price by 30usd
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Johnboy6:
Good to know, but in fact I think there's no difference (hardware wise) between Bonroad and Joying, most probably it comes from the same manufacturer.

Why those guys keeps advertising 2GB, new model and everything since they don't have it?

Better take a look at the Bonroad one...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] vincel892:
No idea. But he will let me know when it's available. I feel like Joying would have better support
[MTCD Android Head Units General] wanb1i:
Here's a single din 8" that's 2gb ram, but Not Intel CPU, still ARM

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-I..._3&btsid=04b35640-5de8-40cd-b63a-fface9d6865d

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I received an email today from Joying that said:

We have have 2GB ram for 7" double din head unit and 8" single din head unit next week

But not ready for 10.1" head unit, maybe need more time

Best regards

Mandy
[MTCD Android Head Units General] masonmilby:
I think it's up on the site now, Intel Atom, 2GB of RAM, looks pretty good to me. Sorry I can't link it, this is my first post.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] CadillacMike:
yup, looks like carjoying.com has 2 items listed:

https://www.carjoying.com/ram-2gb-r...ror-link-wifi-am-fm-steering-wheel-contr.html

https://www.carjoying.com/joying-ne...-wifi-mirror-link-entertainment-multimed.html
[MTCD Android Head Units General] CadillacMike:
3 new videos posted on Boy ka's page:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrkbO6PkJJOR7c3zWiloVA/videos
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Tervinder:
finally! just ordered the 7 inch! Will report back.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] overdive:
Hi!

I'm very interested in this HU, are there any reviews so far?

I considered buying the new Ownice C500 (Android 6.0, 2GB RAM, new Processor - though I don't know if its a good one). These are already made in VW- Design - a big advantage for me. Is Joying planning to make a VW- Version, too?

I think the Joying will get better support - Ownice seems to do less support for their units.

Intel stopped producing this Processor afaik. Do you guys think the Intel- Version will be something "exotic" in future? What will be the next RK 3188?

Regards

Moritz
[MTCD Android Head Units General] leonkernan:
The Sofia chip will live on, it was basically designed and made by Rockchip anyway. Intel just licensed them the x86 architecture to use in it and was going to have a branded version. Rockchip will most likely keep turning them out for however long they are needed.

I think the Mediatek chips will also be around for a while, they've been used in tablets for some time and are related to the phone versions.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] StingerRUS:
DHL texted be that my Joying 2-DIN Intel Sofia 2G RAM 32G will arrive on Monday.

I wonder if anyone have tried to use unit with 4G modems ZTE MF591 (T-mobile Rocket 2.0 4G), ZTE MF683 (T-Mobile Rocket 3.0), Huawei Umg366 (T-Mobile Jet 2.0), Huawei UMG1831 (T-Mobile Rocket) or other supporting frequencies PCS Band 2 (1900 MHz), AWS Band 4 ((1700)/1900/2100 MHz), Band 12 LTE (700 MHz Lower Block A) of USA T-mobile?

I saw the list on other thread for modems compatible with MTCD heads. Does this list applies to Intel based units?

I can survive with HotSpot, but modem solution is more attractive.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Tervinder:
My Joying 2-DIN Intel Sofia 2G RAM 32G just arrived yesterday. Just waiting on my damn fascia kit to arrive then I can install! Will report back again
[MTCD Android Head Units General] doitright:
It sounds like the bluetooth is dramatically improved in these intel units compared to any of the RK units -- given that the bluetooth is apparently connected to the SoC rather than hacked in through the MCU.

But I do have one very important question about the bluetooth on these; does bluetooth TETHERING work?

For example, if I enable bluetooth tethering on my phone, will the head unit be able to pick up and use the network connection supplied by the phone?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] kc2koj@hotmail.com:
Can you ask seller for rom file or could you

please root and backup entire rom and apps and system with nandriod or titanium and upload so we can see what mods can be made and if we can get xposed to work ...

this root update should work... it worked for my intel hu but i cant say im 100% it will work for yours...there is a chance of a soft brick... proceed with caution make sure you know how to get to recovery to factory reset if something goes wrong ..if you choose to take the risk of this mission. These are the instructions that worked for my head unit..format usb stick ..copy update.zip and put usb stick in usb1 and udate without wipe ...http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3905584&d=1476629974
[MTCD Android Head Units General] nyogtha:
Does anyone have this unit running with VW parking sensors? It kinda worked on the old version (shown when there was an obstruction) but after the January upgrade there's no visual warning at all.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
Is this a 5.11 limitation? I don't have this problem with other devices, but don't have anything on 5.11 to test with. I don't remember it ever having been a problem in the past though
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
The camera is alive. I was able to get a picture with 9V battery.

But this is strange now. I have negative bolted to body in the factory ground bolt. I used multimeter to check that 12V was coming from the reverse lights. But as soon as I plug camera wire to the reverse lights multimeter will show only 2.5V. If I unplug camera wire it will show 12V again. I tested with two different wires (with and without wireless transmitter and the same happens.

Could it be some car specific setting to lower voltage if it detects something has been wired to the lights?

Or am I doing something wrong?

Edit: it was something Audi special. Working fine from trunk lock mechanism giving power to camera. Thanks for all the help! Pretty happy with the picture. I'm considering also front camera to the video input.

Edit2: Actually I was not using reverse lights. I have the camera in a station wagon's (Audi Avant) trunk lid but the reverse lights are not in the trunk lid. So I was not powering it from reverse lights as they are outside of the trunk lid. Instead I was using the brake and fog lights or something like that and that was the issue.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] VWCC_GERMANY:
After January Update I had to go to car media settings and activate sensors. Used 3368 password.

Its running on my VW CC 2014,

Picture is only showing when there is anything in the way, with little delay to beeps of VW speakers.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] vinhZ:
I believe this is the case, in 5.1.1 it has to be implemented within the app, in 6 they gave us adoptable storage.

4 sygic read link https://help.sygic.com/en/sygic-gps-navigation-for-android/tips-tricks/how-to-move-sygic-to-sd-card-android
[MTCD Android Head Units General] nyogtha:
Ah, cheers for that info! I looked through the options but couldn't find it. Do you remember what the setting is called?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] VWCC_GERMANY:
Radar Switch :)))

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
does anyone have a version of the sound settings app that has sub controls, like the pumpkin sofia unit?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] nyogtha:
Haha so that's what the radar is! Thanks mate.

Now we just need to figure out how to show the "radar" on reverse gear, not only when there's an obstacle.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
For me it works. I have PDC and it works fine. While in reversed and also normally when I am driving less than 7kph... Ofcourse with annoying delay and pathetic graphics as mentioned above :laugh:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
3G dongle connection

Have you been able to have reliable 3G dongle connection? I have tried with two different Huawei modems. Both of them fail to connect automatically. If I use PPP widget 3 I am able to create connection but it only works maybe 1 / 10 of the time and is thus very unreliable.

In Joying forum some users speculate that Joying crippled the use of 3G dongles on purpose so that people would have to buy their specific dongle just like what they did with USB dash cam.

Any other connection apps that I could try other than PPP widget?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] VWCC_GERMANY:
That would be nice
[MTCD Android Head Units General] kbuck13:
I installed the Red/White and it looks nice! Is it possible to get other color schemes? For me tones of black/gray would match my interior.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] rhino6303:
Thank you for doing this! I did it tonight although I seem to have a couple of issues.

1.

I don't seem to have the regular android settinga apk. After rebooting it did the "optimizing apps" for 1 app. Upon opening settings, nothing changed.

2.

How can I reboot the device without adb now? The android UI doesn't have the reboot option.

Thanks for any help.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] vassandrei:
use the ls -l commands at the end of my post and check your settings app. there should be two and they should have different file sizes

for reboot, i think there's a dedicated app or widget you can use but honestly i just use the root dpi changer app (find in the play store) right now because it has a reboot button.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
Reverse camera guidelines

Here's a backup camera guideline PNG (and also PSD with layers if someone wants to use it as a base) that I created for my car. I used ruler to measure distances from the back of the car and width of the car while I used cardboard boxes to mark positions. The camera is on one of the license plate lights and that's why the guidelines are not straight in the middle. Much better this way and gives a hint of the width of the car on the screen. The screenshot attached shows what I used to mark a straight line continuation from tire to tire to mark the width of the car.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] tuuza:
Would it be possible to change the door indicator image and the pdc image of that stupid "sports" car to something more OEM-like.

Do you have the delay when adjusting AC for example? Its fixed by changing the canbus mode.

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[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
For different image, we can try replacing the image file. Haven't done it. For AC, slight delayed but not too much... Maybe around 0.5 seconds... The delay is because the system is processing the CAN bus message and then passed to controller to display.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] tuuza:
If anyone knows where to find the image file for the door notificaion and park assist image, please let us know.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
Apex Launcher + Torque Pro + Torque Widgets :good:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] wanb1i:
Thanks for that, I was wondering how to get the torque widgets. Anyone know if Torque or other app provides widgets/dials for the Prius electrical/charging specs?

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If it's rooted, there's a bunch of apps that will provide the reboot function in the Play Store, Quickboot comes to mind.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] kbuck13:
Backup camera lines

Where do we place this file?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
See this usefull thread that has links to different information regarding this HU.

From there you will find this usefull post.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
Hi guys, my 128gb and 16gb pendrives are being scanned everytime the unit starts. I have manually cleared the dirty flag in both the pendrives but still this happens. Anybody facing same issues?

Due to this poweramp stutters for some initial minutes.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] KamaL:
I've been experiencing this too with my usb drive. It's really really irritating.

I still haven't tested using a microsd card for storing the music library. Might be our only solution.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
Unfortunately my unit doesn't have SD card slot. 131N2 model...somebody suggested that it's due to dirty flag but in spite of clearing it, it still scans :crying:
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
I second this question also. If Pumpkin has a Sofia unit... is there any software that we can extract from it? Like the sound setting app with the sub controls?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
MCU and Android update to support Sub out. Suggest contact your reseller.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
we should still be able to get some of the software from the pumpkin one and port it to the joying one - settings menu, launcher, etc
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Have you thought about porting MCU code, appears little dev/reverse engineering of MCU code. You could try applying joying mcu - at risk of course.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] azahtoth:
Hi,

Is iGo compatible with this head unit?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
I wanted to make the Head Unit look as close to factory installed system as possible. I'm happy with the results :) Last touch would be if I were able to translate Torque Widgets but so far haven't found a way to do that.

Apps used:

Apex Launcher

PipTec Red Icons & Live Wall (red icons and clock widget)

Torque Pro

Torque Widgets (I modified a theme to make it red and simple, attached)

Network Meter (To show a small wifi icon when wifi connected because I want that info but I'm using immersive mode with launcher so status bar is hidden. Can be seen on second image. It is at the same place as the wifi indicator in notification bar so it will be invisible with apps that are not in immersive mode)

Edit: Torque can be translated: https://torque-bhp.com/wiki/Translation

Edit2: Too bad the translation file in the wiki above is out of date and does not include widget translations :(

I also tried manually translate strings.xml with apktool but it was unsuccessfull.

Edit3: Translation was unsuccessfull so I used the following color code in Torque theme properties.txt to make the title texts transparent: #00FFFFFF as documented here. Then I modified the translated texts manually into the background image. Now I can't move the widgets from their place but at least I have them translated.

Edit4: And the result is in the last photo :)

Edit5: Some more info here with updated PSD background as seen here.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
Yes. The unit comes shipped with a version of iGo.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] gustden:
Very nice! Clean and simple. I like the red based icons & clock. My torque theme looks similar, only I decided not to have the boxes around the "guages" .
[MTCD Android Head Units General] derschnelle:
Hey guys, is it possible to log the data that is shown about the car status? Like fuel level, temperatures etc.

I want to log the fuel level and generate events to log my fuelling.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
I think logging is an inbuilt feature of Torque
[MTCD Android Head Units General] derschnelle:
Ah I'm Sorry, I was talking about the canbus-information that is shown in the car-info app of the head unit.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
I am thinking of pumpkin software on joying and not the other way around. Also, due to lack of recovery we can't go too deep into software customization - small APKs here and there and some libraries...
[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
I am downloading the pumpkin firmware, and going to extract the amplifier app, and see if the sub controls will work with our unit
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
I dont follow - sub controls already exist on Joying MTCD following october 2016 update, but not sofia? I will attach a screen screen shot today.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
Only sub control that i know of are On/OFF. No separate volume or crossover etc.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
The amplifier app from Pumpkin won't launch from the system app folder, or the priv app folder. There must be other dependencies for it. Has anyone checked the structure of the updates to see if Pumpkin, and Joying for these units are interchangeable?

Never mind. They are completely different. Pumpkin is done like a normal android update, and Joying is just not in any way like a normal update.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
See below for images of sub controls

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68943170&postcount=455
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
And this is in the Sofia builds???
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
Follow the the thread.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
That appears to be the same app used on the pumpkin sofia units. I don't see why Joying didn't bring it to their new radios, if they were already using it on the older ones. I have messaged Joying about it, and they said they would try to address it in a future update. I hope we can figure a way to get it working in the mean time. Especially seeing as how the current models only have a 3 band equalizer.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] bogdi1988:
The current 3 band eq is crap! Haha!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] marchnz:
You probably dont realise that the audio CODEC IC is 3 band parametric, all of the others fudge the EQ UI to make the EQ appear multiband graphic.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] mad212:
So I picked one of these up and got it installed over the weekend. Huge upgrade from my older pumpkin 4.4 unit.

I am having an issue with steering wheel controls specifically when I push the next track button. I got it mapped but the issue is when I push next it will sometimes start another music app and go to the next track in that app. For instance I was listening to Pandora and clicked the next track button on the steering wheel and then Tidal opened and started playing. I closed Tidal and clicked next and Tidal opened again. Same happens when I use BlackPlayer EX or Neutron. Anyone have the same problem and know how to fix it. Also, is there a way to map the Home button to a steering wheel button?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sanangel:
I have received and installed my Joying.

I still can not say much, I still have to prove it to draw my own conclusions.

But I have a small problem, my unit does not sleep when I turn off the car. Parked since last night and does not restart, it lights up as if it had been paused, not turned off.

I have it in a Passat of the year 2005.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] VWCC_GERMANY:
There is a known standby current problem when you retrofit the original VW RNS510.

It is solved by changing the CAN bus Gateway.

Not sure if it is the same with Android radios. Maybe search xda or Google.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sanangel:
New firmware update today https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
No info on what bugs they fixed :rolleyes: must be a lot!!!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] KamaL:
So typical of Chinese companies. Let's hope we can detect those bug fixes.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Sergio45:
Anyone have info about The new joying update? Cant find whats new
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dcman008:
Someone is going to have to try it.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] Hilari0:
The new update is discussed here:

https://xdaforums.com/android-auto/android-head-units/joying-intel-update-feb-22nd-t3561285
[MTCD Android Head Units General] tbd@immigrantsong.de:
Custom installation in a Lotus

A great unit for custom installation.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] dayanandgp:
Which launcher is this?
[MTCD Android Head Units General] allenrb2:
Looks like something simple, like Nova with Torque wigets
[MTCD Android Head Units General] sonof:
Looks like Torque Real time HUD and no launcher at all.
[MTCD Android Head Units General] gtxaspec:
Inspired by [MENTION=2851538]sonof[/MENTION]

Lightning launcher!
[MTCD Android Head Units General] phatass_dk:
VW Polo (6C) Install

Hi,

Hoped you guys would be able to assist me. Sorry for the wall of text to come. :)

I bought the 9" VW specific model a month back or so to replace my Newsmy NR5261 in my 2015 VW Polo (6C)

I cannot get the new unit working in the car and cannot figure out why.

I can start the unit fine on my desk through powering BAT & ACC with 12V and GND with 0V.

When I connect the harness in the car, the CANbus box lights red (permanently) even when the ignition is off. At this point I have no 12V from CANbus adapter to the radio.

When I turn on the ignition I still get 0V on the radio ACC PIN. I have tried all possible combinations of CANbus high/low but still without any luck.

Joying is more or less useless in helping me figure out what is the matter.

Any ideas would be appreciated tremendously.

Thanks,

Peter
[MTCD Android Head Units General] tuuza:
Hmm, the canbus module will light up red when connected to car. Did you disconnect the wire that has round connectors and covers in the middle?

On my 2010 gti it worked straight just disconnecting the wire and plugging the harness in.

Do you get 12v from battery to the unit? When I first connected the unit, some wire shorted and blew the 15amp fuse in the engine bay. Probably should check that.

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