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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] UnicornKaz:
Thanks for the thorough review ;)

I have one concern ...

your "FACE-IN" picture showed that the phone's top portion ( shiny plastic ) is rubbing against the inside curve of the hinge.

any chance that it will be scratch ??? :confused: it is ALL metal, aside from the little rubber strip & the felt lining ... correct ?? I honestly don't know the material ... if it is ... how heavy is it ( on top of our already weighty beast :D )

Thanks ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
The case is a lightweight plastic. It is slightly flexible and the rubberized texture that gives it a soft feel. No chance of scratching, and no significant weight increase.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jbilbo:
Kudos on the fantastic review of a quality product. I'm a "face-in" guy but your "face-out" argument is thought provoking.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jomo25:
So, having used it for a day, i will say, this holster is fantastic for what it does. For face in, its very well designed. It would even be great for face out, if it had the mods that BennTech made. I might even try it myself after a while. Its light, soft, rubberized, has extra "softness" in all the right places. THere really is no chance for scratching, except for the one place that BennTech noted: your belt. But I can live with that, belts don't cost hundreds of dollars :)

Its really a great holster. Its one of the best holsters (not cases) i've had for any device ever.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] midyatspor1000:
Which blackberry holster are using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
I had the Sedio holster for three days now and I don't thnk I will ever go back to a case. The beauty of this holster (and I only use it face in) is that you never have the phone turned on by accident and have the buttons pushed randomly, as it has happened with all the cases I have used so far. Also, I am using the super-extended (2600 mAh) battery which protrudes in the back and I could not find a case to accomodate it. This holster allows for that with no problem. Now I have a phone I can easily access (faster than any case I have tried, about 5 of them!) and I can use it for the whole day without need for mid-afternoon recharge, with the 2600 mAh battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
Extended Battery

Thanks for the input on the extended battery. I've updated my access chart accordingly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] fromamerica:
Thanks for the great thorough review, I was about to buy the holster,but now will not because of the damage done to belts. I too would only use this holster while at work, and do not want to damage my belts, thanks for saving me $30.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bishopau:
and the cost of your belts :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
Belt damage

Yeah, all the plastic belt clips I've ever used damage my leather belts to some degree, but this Seidio is particularly bad. Hence, the huge, red, ALL CAPS warning.

I didn't mention it in the review, but in addition to the wheel and strong spring, there are plastic ridges all over the belt clip that increase belt damage. In my belt clip picture, you can see some sharp ridges that run along the sides from the wheel to the spring, plus another at the base of the wheel (right side of the pic) that limits the holster to its 180 degree rotation. Also, in the far right of the rubber strip pic, you can just make out a short plastic ridge on the underside of the clip that fits between you and your belt, which damages the top edge and back side of your belt.

I assume the demographics of buyers of this holster include a substantial portion (if not a majority) of business professionals who have to wear leather belts with their suits/slacks. With all Seidio's work to protect your phone--plastic selection, rubberized texture, hinge design, and even the addition of a soft rubber strip--it's a shame to see their flippant disregard of belt damage. But I guess that's in line with their flippant disregard of other customers, specifically us face-out users. (Sorry, couldn't resist shameless dig to bolster my face-out cause.) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] TiltedAz:
My wife just upgraded to a tilt (50% off sale don't cha know) and one of the first thing we ordered was the seido face-in designed holster. We love it! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jellycow:
Swivel clip won't last long

I went through one these for my 8525. The holster for the 8925 is pretty much the same. So I'm speaking from months of use....and I think I'll pass on getting it for my 8925.

It's a good looking clip. Good protection for the phone when it's facing in with the rubber strip holding the phone really well. Main problem (big one) I had with this holster is that the swiveling mechanism, which clicks into place, just wears out. Mine (ordered directly from Seidio on 1/2007) took about 4 months to wear out so it just freely spins...then another two months later, whole belt clip mechanism simply shattered. It was crazy... But it was a great clip while it lasted.

And what's even MORE annoying is that the warranty for Seidio products is 180 days (from what I remember). I called in and mine was about 2 weeks out of this...so they wouldn't replace it for me. ARGH!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] DancherBoi:
Would you mind posting some pics of your device in the holster with the extended battery installed? And where di you get your 2600 mAh battery?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] UnicornKaz:
funny not hearing a single comment from this Seidio rep :confused: :confused:

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=240558
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
Extended Battery

I'd like to see pics of the extended battery, too. Since michalopoulosgk's post, I've been looking at extended batteries, and I've seen some that definitely will not work, and others that might work, but can't tell clearly from photos. Hence, I updated my Access Chart once again--this time to say "some" for extended battery.

And I'd like to hear from the Seidio rep, too. Unfortunately, I doubt any managers or high-level decision makers from Seidio are lurking around these forums. seidiosedio is probably low on the totem pole, and thus my incredibly brilliant ideas for a reversible holster will go unnoticed by those with the authority to implement the product improvements. (Unless, of course, seidioseidio is looking for advancement and has no scruples and thus steals my incredibly brilliant ideas and presents them to his boss as his own and receives accolades and promotions and pay raises and the world rejoices over the wondrous improvements to this holster. I'm cool with that. I just want a better holster.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jomo25:
Haha...Your question is actually #2 on my list for the Seidio guy who posts here.

#1 is the question about their extended batteries missing the metal backplane and contacts like the OEM battery. I want to know if they know what that is for, and if they consciously left it out or just didn't care. I want to know if they can guarantee their batteris won't have any harmful side effects because its missing.

I guess those are like questions 1A-1C. Curiously, the guy hasn't responded to any of those questions. Maybe its just coincidence. But I know they could sell alot more batteries (and put some of us at ease) if they would just respond.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
These are pictures of the extended battery (2700 mAh) with the Seidio holster.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] sclui56:
Thanks for sharing. How well does the replacement cover fit? It looks well fitted from your pix, is there any flex?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] UnicornKaz:
Why does the 1st pic showed that the cover covered up the external GPS antenna port ???

and how accurate is that camera opening hole ??? seems it is covered too ... :confused:

and @ jomo25 ... Yeah ... about that Seidio rep ... the guy sure is conveniently avoiding the question(s) on the ground plate & the 4 contact points on these extended battery !! :rolleyes: :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] xmoo:
Nice review but damn that device is dirty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] DancherBoi:
Thanks for the pics. That really helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] pmuschi:
Just my 2¢...

I received the Seidio holster on Monday (26th) and although I'm still figuring out how to carry it around, I can only praise its quality. While trying to figure out where to keep it on my belt, I walked too close to the edge of a cubicle wall which caught the holster. It happened so fast that I couldn't stop my momentum so it popped off of my belt and fell on the floor. I was sure I had broken the clip's hinge (a/the stress point), but I picked it up and everything was ok.

I had to get the Kaiser out of my pocket, and this holster is a great solution.

Paul
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
The replacement cover fits well, no free play, just like the native one. It makes it easy to grab the phone because of the extra indentation sticking out in the back. There is no marking for GPS as with the original cover, but I have been using GPS and TomTom with no problems. I have also been using the camera, again with no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
The replacement cover fits well, no free play, just like the original one. It makes it easy to grab the phone because of the extra indentation sticking out in the back. There is no marking for GPS as with the original cover, but I have been using GPS and TomTom with no problems. I have also been using the camera, again with no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
My apologies for the redundant message..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
Thanx for the ext battery pics

Thanks for the extended battery pics, michalopoulosgk. Nice job. Could you post where you got your external battery so other interested parties can get one that they know works with the Seidio holster? BTW, I think those corner wraparounds are just a little too tight...if only Seidio had included my Start/OK button mods...and ExtUSB mod...and camera button mod...and stylus mod...(sorry, more shameless promotion for face-out).

Just to clarify for everyone--the GPS label on the back of the Kaiser is NOT the GPS antenna. It is a removable cover. Underneath it is a port for an external GPS antenna. (I never even knew the 8925 had an external GPS antenna port until a few days ago. Guess I should update my Access Chart to include that, too.)

That said, blocking this port seems odd to me, too. The few people who are going to buy an external GPS antenna for the Kaiser probably want an extended battery, too. I guess it cost too much to separately manufacture that little removable rubber cover for a feature they figure not many people use. Frankly, I don't see much point in a wired external antenna when you can carry a Bluetooth SiRF III GPS that's better than the Kaiser's built-in GPS and smaller than the external antenna. Only issue would be the Bluetooth GPS needs separate charging.

I'd wash it, but that didn't work out well with my other two phones. :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] michalopoulosgk:
I got my battery from gpsforless, a company located in UK. It seems that there are many other models now available,but they all look the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] seidioseidio:
Sorry guys...the holidays have us swamped and I haven't been able to get here.

There are obviously many opinions in here, but with regards to the face-in design, it is something we've done from the beginning for two reasons:

1) To protect the most expensive part of the device...the screen.

2) To create a holster that works with our extended batteries.

We understand that other manufacturers have face-out designs, but doing things differently has made us a leader in the Smartphone business.

On belt scratching, this clip is the same design we've used for years, and besides one or two people here have never heard any complaints. We do rubberize the clip to give it a softer finish, but at the end of the day it's a clip. It's designed to keep the holster secure on your belt so it doesn't fall off. If you're that concerned with your belt, you may need to consider moving to our premium leather case.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] UnicornKaz:
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Any news on this matter ??

THANK YOU !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
I understand the screen protection and extended battery justifications, so you don't need to defend your face-in orientation. I guess the problem lies with me. Apparently, I am not clearly communicating my justifications for face-out. So forget that my suggestions are minor design changes. Forget that I made these changes in less 5 minutes with my Dremel. Let's look at a different perspective: cost.

First, let me make this clear--I'm not trying to make this holster face-out only. (Maybe that's problem and why I'm challenged by face-in advocates?) I'm not taking away functionality--I'm adding functionality. My suggestions will make the Seidio holster fully reversible (you want different--that's different). That will make it appeal to both face-in and face-out users. More market appeal means more potential customers. When more people buy the product, the manufacturing costs are lower per unit (because the initial design and setup costs are spread over more units). Lower manufacturing costs means Seidio makes more money per unit and could even ultimately lower the price. Lower price would appeal to yet more customers. I don't see the downside. Why anyone would not want these changes?

The parts of the clip that contact the belt surface are not rubberized--specifically the hard plastic slotted wheel--and that's what scratches the belt. The rubberized part of the clip fits behind your belt, so that doesn't do any good unless you people at Seidio wear your belts face-in, too. (Ironically, the only time you'd even need that rubberized is when you're holding the holster...like you do when using it face-out. :) )

Personal note to seidioseidio: I'm just presenting ideas to make a good product even better. When you defend your existing designs without even acknowledging my suggestions, I get the impression that you (representing Seidio) are not listening and are not interested in improving your product. The next time someone offers a suggestion to improve your product, just say "That's a good idea. I'll pass it on to my boss/manager, our engineers, etc." That gives the impression that Seidio listens their customers and cares what they think (regardless of whether you actually pass the ideas along or not ;) ).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mbn:
I've had Seidio holsters for a few years and the amount of times I bump into things with my phone, well, let's just say if it weren't face in, I'd be in deep sh*t.

Also, I was recently pleasantly surprised when I received my 2700mAh battery from Boxwave and it fits into the seidio case! (face in of course) Perfect fit.

http://www.boxwave.com/products/hig...-capacity-extended-battery-at_t-tilt_2906.htm

Yeah I know that battery's ugly, but when you're on the phone, using GPS, using IM, the stock Tilt battery ran out very fast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] emilgue:
Had a bit of a problem with my seidio holster. I put invisibleshield all around the body to prevent it from scratch, but looks like it didn't protect it well from the seidio holster. As you can see there's a little area on both sides where part of the holster kinda push into the body of the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] TiltedAz:
Was it a tight fit with the skin?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] emilgue:
I wouldn't call it tight, snug is a more appropriate word for it.

The skin itself is not that thick anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] victoradjei:
You obviously did the wrong thing because it is stated clearly on the Seidio site that this is NOT for a SKINNED device :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] emilgue:
I don't think the term skinned on their website applies to invisibleshield and the likes. It's more towards the silicon skin type? the thick ones.

Anyway, looks like the mod that the OP posted by dremeling the corners might help on this situation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] KruseLudsMobile:
Seido is the best

I have been using this for a while and agree it is the best holster:

http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=871

I prefer face in. The chance of having it fall out is worth the ease of simpler removal. I did have leather holsters and they are too much of a hassle to get the phone out quickly (while it is ringing, I may add!).

Also, the chance of having it fall out of the holster is really fairly small. But the chance removing it from the holster easily is 100% !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Delta_flyer:
I just received my holster. I'm impressed with the initial quality, but I'm concerned about the device falling out when the spring clip gets caught on clothing or other things. Has anyone had this happen yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BennTech:
Kaiser falls out of Seidio holster

I've had this happen to me 3 or 4 times now. Twice has been on concrete and one of those times my phone hit so hard the battery cover popped off. Fortunately, no significant damage to the phone thus far.

I normally carry my phone horizontally (tab forward), and I think that contributes. Carrying the case vertically with the tab upwards will probably decrease the accidental openings.

Also, removing the top protrusion of the tab like midyatspor1000's mod would help. Be a little harder to open with your finger, but I suppose that's a decent trade-off for fewer accidents. (I personally wouldn't narrow the tab like midyatspor did, but that's up to you.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] fire00:
after reading all that positive experiences I decided to order one shipping to Europe, so I went to Seidio's onlineshop and started the transaction. I entered my credit card no and although there were no real problems with the card, I got a failure message from the onlineshop and couldn't proceed with the purchase. I tried once again - the same result.

So I called my bank to verify that the card is ok and listen what they said to me: "There are 2 approved transactions to Seidio" !!

Well, ....everything can happen so I sent an email to order@seidioonline.com explaining this issue.

I have to report here that until today (14 days) there is no responce by Seidio !!!

I'll have to check the credit card's history whether they really got the money once or twice or none, but anyway, seeing such bad customer care, I have doubts ordering and paying so much shipping costs and maybe not getting the shipment at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] fire00:
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after reading all that positive experiences I decided to order one shipping to Europe, so I went to Seidio's onlineshop and started the transaction. I entered my credit card no and although there were no real problems with the card, I got a failure message from the onlineshop and couldn't proceed with the purchase. I tried once again - the same result.

So I called my bank to verify that the card is ok and listen what they said to me: "There are 2 approved transactions to Seidio" !!

Well, ....everything can happen so I sent an email to order@seidioonline.com explaining this issue.

I have to report here that until today (14 days) there is no responce by Seidio !!!

I'll have to check the credit card's history whether they really got the money once or twice or none, but anyway, seeing such bad customer care, I have doubts ordering and paying so much shipping costs and maybe not getting the shipment at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] seidioseidio:
Can you provide me your order # ? I will follow through and make sure it is taken care of Monday.

Sorry for the problem.

Seidio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] fire00:
@ Seidio - I didn't get any PO # as I could not finish the order. I assume that both orders were cancelled but just to check. My email inquiry reference: 29.12.2007 at 17:06 from josef_holub@trendmicro.com / subject: Denied but processed Credit Card payment (HLCG8925AS)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] gman8966:
Anyone know how the belt clip holds up over time? My father, brother and I had a holster from Seidio for our HTC Apache's and the belt clip wore out within a couple months, and was able to spin freely.

I would really like to get the holster for my tilt but not if the clip will be wore out so quick again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] seidioseidio:
We have redesigned the belt clip. It is very durable now! when you get the holster you will see the difference.

Sorry for the problems you experienced.

Seidio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] leopold54:
Thanks mate for taking the time to prepare this excellent review.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] zaki67:
I have this case for a few months now and it is the best case I used,before it I got the PDAIR one (useless after one wek) and the Krussel whichwas OK but the clip broke after about a month.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BillTheCat:
Just found this thread. Thanks for the terrific information. Looks like this is the solution for me.

Any thoughts on the longevity of the 'rubberized' treatment? I was thinking of getting the matching hard case, but having owned a similar type for my RAZR, I found it wore off after a while. If that's the situation, then I'd probably go for a clear case instead.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] dufferin:
Great review man, really appreciate it. I think I may look into the thin rubberized version for myself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ThatGuy16:
Great review!

I received my holster yesterday, and love it. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] henk-jan:
Great review and I got mine also. Only: I got 2 in stead of 1 (twice ticket the order)

Despite it's great value I only need one but several emails to seidio remains unanswered while some comments here gives more respons.

Conclusion: great hoster, poor support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] pwanghk:
Thank you for this great in depth review. I can see why this one cost $30.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] rabdo:
Does anyone know of a UK seller that stocks this case. I really want to get one for my Kaiser but the international postage is a bit steep - it doubles the price of the case.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] -888-:
any chance for holster accomodating extended batteries?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] scowltura:
Thanks for the detailed review.... Just purchased one myself based off it. I'll try to come back on here and let you all know if it lives up to expectations.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jdwilson:
slim case and holster

Purchased mine directly from Seidio, very quick shipper!!! If you do this, order the COMBO deal, case and holster together.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] javorsky:
or they could make the shape of the hole the same as the original one and let us just reuse old plug
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] freecall:
Hi ,

just bought the Seido combo and it works very good. Does anybody know if the Tytn II with the Seido slim rubber protection still will fit in a Brodit active car holder ?

Freecall
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] scowltura:
First Impressions

I got my Seidio holster earlier this week and have to say I'm loving it. Very strudy and secure. Probably overall the slimmest profile your going to get on your hip. I prefer keeping mine face in... and my USB to 3.5mm earphone adapter fits perfectly in without problems.