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[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
please read OP again.

only dynamic gapps is supported.

also, open gapps had issues with ok Google detection awhile back.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] NinjaOne:
Sorry. Had missed that.

Will try to find and flash me some Dynamic Gapps instead. Hoping a dirty flash will do the trick.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
give it a try (wipe cache/dalvik and system, flash ROM and GAPPS) and if it doesn't work..u can always clean flash.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] NinjaOne:
Thanks. Tried. Everything still runs fine except the Hotword detection.

Clean flash it is...
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
or wait for now. i can go home and try it.

if it works i will let you know and you can clean flash.

i never use it so give me scenarios.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] NinjaOne:
Thanks. ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
seems to be working. :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] NinjaOne:
Thanks. Will try to change the Hotword enrollment APK first. If that doesn't work, I will have to clean flash.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
any Fi users here.

got quick question:

Do you guys experience network disconnect all of the sudden and reconnect again. I can't exactly say how often it happens but it does.

This is not at all related to this specific ROM only...I have seem this behavior in other ROM too (PN to be specific)

I am only asking this here coz this ROM is what I am using.

any Fi users please comment.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mrjake1970:
im on fi and i have no issues at all with disconnects.. ive been on this rom for quite a while now.. i am using the 3.78 radio..

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im using open gapps aroma 1-31 and everything including hotword works just fine.. when i find files that work, i dont change versions unless i have to..
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HiM@L:
hmmm...thats interesting.

thanks for the reply.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] NinjaOne:
Clean flashed. Ok Google detection works fine with Dynamic Gapps. :)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] eloko:
I noticed this when is band 25 and 26 in the same spot, sprint network... Jumps from one to other like every 10 seconds, it's annoying..
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HTC_Phone:
I as well am on Fi, no issues at all. I'm using radio 3.81 and have no issues at all
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
google just released 7.1.2 final build (N2G47H) :cool:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
Ooh la la!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
Very quiet in here lol, so here's my battery stats for today on ex kernel nothing touched :)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
Noice! ^
[Nexus 6P Android Development] TJ_bab:
Any optimizations you use for battery life? My play store services always keeps my phone awake and it barely goes to deep sleep. Any solutions about that?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
Nope no optimisations. Not sure about Google play services, what gapps you use?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] TJ_bab:
Dynamic GAPPS

my phone's battery drains 20-25% overnight with no use at all just because of play services keeping it awake
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
I use dynamic mini and I never had this issue before. I have no idea why you have it. What kernel do you use?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] p70shooter:
That's got to be a rogue app, have you got Wakelock detector or an app like that installed?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] TJ_bab:
EX Kernel

Nope, how do I do that?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] sforzandos:
It's happening to me as well. But on my end even though it's listed as "android" and "play services", it' was because my LTE signal keeps dropping out. I live in an area with bad LTE reception. The drain came with one of the recent vendor updates which was flashed along with the ROM; I don't think it's a problem with the ROM itself.

7.1.2 is supposed to include a fix for this bug, but for now you can try disabling LTE and setting the phone to 3G or 2G, If that's not the problem, then try installing better battery stats and checking the wakelocks (both kernel and partial).
[Nexus 6P Android Development] TJ_bab:
no LTE coverage in our country yet so LTE is not the issue

and I hardly use 3G and also turn it off whenever my screen is off

the issue seems to have fixed after I cleared data of play services and installed the latest version of the play services apk (from aptoide)

will have to see if it happens again or not
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Bobbaloo:
Deleted

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Cure = Naptime app. I've been using it for a long time. Deep sleep as soon as screen goes off
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
This is why I love "Hold back go kill" so much, and can't be on a ROM without. When I'm done with an app, and won't need it for 4 more hours, I kill that sunnova! No need to have it running and keeping the phone awake in the background - just so it can report back to the mothership and tell them every single keystroke you made, and where ate lunch, and how much money is in your account. lol

For reference, I lose about 1% over night, sometimes 2. But not once have I lost 3% overnight.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
Question, what is the difference in clearing recents menu and holding back to kill? Is it the same thing or different?

I have a habbit of clearing all recents menu before I lock my phone.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
I'm actually not 100% sure what clearing recents does to be honest. I know that when I clear recents, and then go to running apps, the apps are still running, and were never killed off. My guess is that clearing recents just wipes their cache and data from your RAM, but they are still running. Holding back to kill actually stops the app from running, and unless it's one of the few that automatically restart themselves because they have permission to do so - it will stay closed.

People used to say that Android doesn't need to close apps, it's RAM management is far superior, and there's no need to kill an app your not using. But this has been disproven. You can test it for yourself. Some time you have an hour free, run and open lots of apps, and leave them open. Keep using the phone until you notice it's very sluggish, and scrolling is stuttering, and things take much longer to load. Now kill everything (restart might be the easiest), then use it, and notice how much smoother and lighter it runs. You'll notice.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Balino:
Misproven? Where? I never killed apps on my devices and they have all been smooth as they've just been restarted. Never had problems with ram management.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
Well, my phone's always get sluggish. Must be phone to phone different. But I always have noticeable battery boost and better noticeable performance increases. So I've disproved it for myself. I don't care how anyone else uses theirs.

I have thousands of data points where I've witnessed a poorly performing phone, perform vastly different after restarting it. That's why that's the first thing tech support asks when someone had phone trouble.

My wife periodically even starts complaining that she can no longer watch videos or things open slow and says there's something wrong with her phone. So I grab it from her and check hey uptime and she won't have restarted it in line a week. I restart it, and videos will play, and it's faster.

Yet, I've never once seen a phone with it's RAM full and tons of background processes - perform well and have good battery life. It's just not possible. So the evidence is thousands of times having a clean phone runs well, and 0 times a bogged down phone has performed well. It's cut and dry to me, but I knew old schoolers would argue that x what they were always told" is correct answer real world observations​ are incorrect.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Balino:
I don't want to be rude mate but the next time just clarify that the myth is misproved from you, because if you look everywhere, on different forums etc you will always find the same statement : don't swipe away your apps. The only apps I find it better to swipe an app away is for games, as they run in the background and make the device sluggish as hell. In that case you're totally right. And by the way I never had my ram full either, apps are being closed by the system itself for me :confused:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
Yes, they should and will be killed by the system following the OOM settings. But I just prefer to do it myself. I just do it to conserve battery mostly. My idle drain gets too much for my liking with stuff open.

I think the reason people say that you don't need to close apps is because of the OOM.... They're just saying that stuff will be killed of as you get close to being out of RAM. But to me, being 50MB away from being out of RAM is just too much. I don't have any apps that I need syncing, so for me it just doesn't make sense. But I do understand with you guys saying it will kill stuff off. But in my eyes it's a too little too late kinda deal.

I am still in the mindset that my phone it's a phone first and foremost. It's a communication device. In an emergency, I'd die if I couldn't save my wife, soon to be born daughter, coworkers, family, anyone close to me - because my phone was dead from having my email an apps syncing, Bluetooth on, GPS tracking my every step etc.

Why do I always write so much...
[Nexus 6P Android Development] TJ_bab:
I monitored other apps, they're not the problem. I use greenify so most apps are hibernated

when I go to check what apps have caused the wake up, I see google play services at the top and it has kept my phone awake the whole time

clearing the cache and data of play services helps but only for a short time. After a day or so, the problem starts again

I use greenify's aggressive doze for that so I don't think that's the issue
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
Uninstalled both kernel auditor, the donate app, and Franco.kernel updater and it seems to have picked back up now, almost to about normal for sure. I'll keep testing but it seems it was one of those apps for sure...
[Nexus 6P Android Development] chopt51:
I never ran 2 kernel tuner apps at the same time. That could have done it.

If your running ElementalX, have you tried EX kernel manager?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] resynx:
Excellent ROM. Paired with EX kernel makes for a great experience. Thanks for the work [MENTION=4770534]snak3ater[/MENTION] :)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
Yes I have, but i used to run a bunch of different kernels and forgot to clean them up.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] stlcity:
To update to the new version, can I dirty flash? Don't need to flash vendor again right? Thanks
[Nexus 6P Android Development] barrackOBAMA:
Your first Question has been answered on page 19

Dirty flash should work.

And vendor is only needed to be flashed once.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] stlcity:
Thank you
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
I must have had some apps conflicting or something. Uninstalled multiple kernel tweaking apps and it seems to be gone. Lag is fine
[Nexus 6P Android Development] AngryDinosaur:
thanks obama
[Nexus 6P Android Development] nomadism:
Magisk and SAOSP - it works!

For those using Magisk for root and ...for whatever reason, I'm glad to report that Magisk + Phh Superuser works fine with this rom.

Flash ROM - Gapps - (vendor if necessary) - *DON'T* flash SuperSU - Flash Magisk V6 - Flash Phh SuperSU for Magisk - Install PHH Superuser app from the play store - intall magisk manager app.

Then you are good to go! The SuperSU app is baked in the settings, and will crash if you try to run it, but not really an issue.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
Next build embedded SuperSU from Settings app is going out.

Didn't know that it crashes. Actually there's no guard against the scenerio when SuperSU isn't installed. Settings app just crashes in that case :)

Nobody provided me the log. I had to uninstall SuperSU personally to catch the error in log
[Nexus 6P Android Development] nomadism:
Thank you! As I said it really wasn't a issue at all. Should have provided the logs!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] mbl1979:
[MENTION=4770534]snak3ater[/MENTION] also maybe sneak in battery circle and or percentage in the notification bar. :) LOVING the ROM by the way!!!!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Jhonys:
I've been running this rom for the past couple of days and really liking it so far.

I did a complete wipe, flash rom, flash custom open gapps, flash su, vendor, and lastly EX kernel and so far everything is smooth with no errors whatsoever.

Thanks for a great rom ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] dew912:
This Rom is golden and exactly what the 6p community needed. Super stable, lighting fast, and decent battery life. In conjunction with ElementalX this is a winning combination. If ok Google worked on lockscreen/screen off and there was a notification/charging led this rom would be closing in on perfection. Job well done dev! :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
ROM is still brand new and I am sure a bunch more light weight and useful features are coming. Obviously they must remain stable and I'm sure some porting and editing must be done
[Nexus 6P Android Development] galaxys:
This rom is the bomb as is! My daily driver at high speeds! ;) :D
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Sheetzie03:
Did anyone ever answer you?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] resynx:
Lightflow will allow you to customize your notification LED. That's what I use.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] ultyrunner:
Light Manager (free) is a really good option too.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
Alright. I'll bite. What's the lowest idle drain you've achieved with all the preservation you do? I'm going to compare it to mine. I'm someone uses a smartphone as a smartphone.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Bobbaloo:
Dumbify my smartphone haha. With Naptime, I get like 1-2% drain overnight (6.5-7 hrs)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
Assuming you're rounding off? Without naptime and everything on - mine is less than 1% to 1.7%. I've achieved 0.30-something percent overnight idle drain.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
I'm losing 6-7% overnight but it doesn't bother me at all. I'm still sleeping like a baby [emoji1]
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
With or without naptime (good franco app by the way) i'm at 0-1% max drain overnight (whatever the rom i use)

What i do :

- put the phone on airplane mode (good for health too..)

- use excelent Flash Kernel (Wingoku or HawkTail profile)

I think Naptime helps a little bit also during the day by force doze the phone immediatly VS 30min~1h on stock settings
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Bobbaloo:
Great!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
I try to keep my app selection lean. Tried and true apps that rarely go rogue. The only ones I tolerate are Google play services, official Facebook and Messenger.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
I see. But what I meant​ is that, Google services might be running because it's monitoring or running some of those apps. It's probably logging their usage and reporting it all to Google. That's just a hunch, I don't know that's for sure what's happening.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Balino:
Facebook and Messenger are the worst one out there :angel:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
Amen brother. A couple years ago, when I had an active Facebook account, I tried the app once... Until I noticed there was no way to kill it, it was always running and using 100mb of RAM. Then, they decided using one app to check their stupid site wasn't enough, they required you to start using 2 apps to check their 1 site! The second app ALSO uses 100mb of RAM 24/7.

They probably require 3 apps now to check the site.

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Hey, just noticed that I somehow missed this post. Last night for example the phone slept for I think 8 hours, maybe 9, radio on of course (in case of emergency), and I had .1%/hr screen of drain. Screen on varies depending greatly on brightness (I use auto brightness), and what apps I'm using.

0.1 was a little better than normal though. I'd say it's usually 0.3/hr overnight. My long term average over 28 charge cycles of 0.5, but that includes leaving some apps running we've I'm at work and check it every 30 minutes when we're slow. If I kill everything, it's 0.3. I have screenshots of you want to see!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
On active!? Whew, those are my results on idle. Lemme see that.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
You asked what my idle stats are, so that's what I was sharing with you.

My active, screen on stats kinda stink, I'm still trying to get my kernel settings dialed in to still be responsive and smooth, but user less juice lol. It depends on which app I'm using. If I'm just scrolling rapidly with a web browser, it might only be 8%/hr, or if I'm reading, much less, but scrolling galleries in the Chive app will drain 13%/hr, same brightness settings.

(I just realized though, sometimes I'm in data and sometimes I'm in WiFi... So that compounds things a lot)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
Oh. Lol. I misread that.

Not to far off from mine then. I'm now averaging 0.41% on idle and about 15.32% active. I'm sticking to my setup then. Smartphone as a smartphone.

And the minor hitch and hint of lag bugs the hell out of me. I'm one of those people who can see 30 vs 60 fps even without them side by side.

Avoiding the rabbit hole of policing my use of a smart phone. Really if I'm using my phone as I do, never once have it die in the middle of the day - you are good.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
I wish I could do that. But my phone isn't capable of it. I'm one of the few that also notice all the stutters and choppiness that is Android. But when it comes down to it, even set at performance governor, it still stutters. My settings are about as smooth as you can get, yet still plays well with battery.

If I ran it like you though, I'd only get 1hr of use a day ? so I'm stuck with being mindful of my battery. Which sucks.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
Yeah.

The most basic like signal strength relative to yyour location is already against users. Somebody mentioned that Google will attempt to connect to 4G no matter what. Draining battery from the constant connection it needs to establish. Ergo, turn off data if you don't need to sync anything and just need SMS and phone.

Luckily, my usual haunts are my service provider territory.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HikingMoose:
I only turn data on when I plan to use. If I'm putting it way in my pocket for. Couple hours, I always turn it off. I don't even use 4G, I keep it on 3G because of the coverage here. If you use 4G it's constantly switching between the signals and losing data for several moments each time. Eventually I give up and lock it in 3G. Which has a higher signal strength strength anyway, so it improves battery life.

But even with data off, gps off, blue tooth off, and just WiFi on, my idle drain quadruples. I have sync off for everything, all Google activity is paused, and my browser is not signed in to Google. It's only a bother for Google maps, so I think I'll shop for a new navigation app.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Sheetzie03:
Yep haven't had those are my phones in prob 2 or 3 years, no thanks.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
I'm done merging sources ☺
[Nexus 6P Android Development] igylan:
Noice!!! :good:
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
:D

:D

:D

Can't wait to flash it !!!! I'm testing 3/4 others 7.1.2 roms for 3 days... What a mess in comparison with SAOSP...

Hope up in on his way !!
[Nexus 6P Android Development] ApoelEllhnwn:
Thank you for the update.

One question: I try all Roms that updated to 7.1.2 but I have on all ROMs same problem with OpenGapps (FC setup wizard) Can any one help??
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HTC_Phone:
You've gotta be sure to flash the correct Gapps package. There's one floating around for 7.1.2 specifically. It's a known issue that setup wizard from 7.1.1 doesn't play nice with 7.1.2
[Nexus 6P Android Development] ApoelEllhnwn:
Ok thank you. I will wait them ??
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Badger50:
You could try these. Seems to work well for a lot old other folks :good:

http://androidalex.xyz/josh/.stuff/Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170404.zip
[Nexus 6P Android Development] ApoelEllhnwn:
Yes, I flash saosp with this gapps ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] Badger50:
Yep. Should work fine with any AOSP type rom.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] king_david43:
My body is ready!!!

My 6p too I guess.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
[MENTION=4770534]snak3ater[/MENTION] please sharrree :p :p
[Nexus 6P Android Development] ChrissChross2812:
He already has, Take a look in AFH ?
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
I'm there : https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=126226&sort_by=date&sort_dir=DESC

don't see new build now (last is right now saosp_angler-ota-3-12-17.zip)

Edit:

ok silly me, i've just seen "root" folder link and find last build here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=72521

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Gapps question :

[MENTION=4770534]snak3ater[/MENTION] & guys who tried 7.1.2 SAOSP, what GAPPS version do you recommend ?

Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170215.zip

OR

a newer one like

Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170404.zip

(used by DU 11.3 / 7.1.2 build)

I've read last discussions about gapps for 7.1.2 customs roms but i ask recommendation for SAOSP 7.1.2 only
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
I'm using latest Dynamic gapps with 7.1.2 build
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
Thanks ! but just to be clear, by latest you mean this found

here: https://xdaforums.com/android/software/gapps-dynamic-gapps-t3487192 and here: https://plus.google.com/communities/106779856550530107480

aka February 15th version ?

(the 20170404 version seems to be made by others guys, not Beans)
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
Yes
[Nexus 6P Android Development] predek:
Hi mate, is clean flash required? Dirty flash cause substratum force closes.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] kyzn:
Rule of thumb, when you dirty flash and it's good - great! If it doesn't, clean flash.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] :
FYI, i've just tried clean flash everything (with Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170215 & under EXT4 for now), it boots normally but "1st launch welcom setup" crash / force close... unusable at all

I'll try all again with Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170404 and let you now

Edit: it works now, no FC :good:

Edit 2: 7.1.2 boots and seems to work flawlessly under F2FS as 7.1.1, i'll post the procedure i followed later
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
Clean flashed with the mini dynamic February gapps. I get fc on setup wizard.

I have rebooted and clean installed using mini dynamic gapps from April for DU builds. This worked fine
[Nexus 6P Android Development] traboll:
Use this and accustom yourself to read earlier posts. It has already been mentioned.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HTC_Phone:
Magisk Hide isn't working on the latest 7.1.2 version, gonna dig into the build.prop and see what's going on
[Nexus 6P Android Development] pa.pn2:
Working fine here
[Nexus 6P Android Development] HTC_Phone:
Interesting, I wonder what's​going on. I get failed every time
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
I did read earlier posts. In which snake says he used the feb gapps and i said I would try that.

So I downloaded the ones in your link as backup just in case, and I flashed them.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] snak3ater:
The reason i am not having any crashes is because i dirty flashed latest build on top of my own build.

Problem is for those who are coming from another rom, clean flashing and then ending up in Setup wizard crashes.

For that try Mini_Dynamic_GApps-7.1.x-20170404.
[Nexus 6P Android Development] diddly3000:
Yep, du mini works fine. On the 7.1.2 build now. Looks good so far