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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
This is a repeat post of sorts but here goes:

1. The Note 7 has now been defined by ICAO as a product with a defective lithium battery and is prohibited to carry on any passenger or cargo aircraft. An ICAO member state must file an exception for this to not apply to them. It is now official. The Note 7 is prohibited (read banned) from carriage on aircraft WORLDWIDE

2. The FAA in the United States, and Transport Canada have also issued previous directives banning the Note 7. In other countries individual Airlines have chosen to as well. Those are ALL now mute points. Nation States and individual airlines are free to issue more restrictive directives but when less, ICAO regulations (known as annexes) apply. See point 1.

3. In the United States the TSA will confiscate you device at security. You will be fined (substantially). This should now apply to ALL countries. The motus operandi of all security branches such as the TSA and CATSA are to check for items that could be used in the unlawful interference of an aircraft or are prohibited from carriage as dangerous goods.

The Note 7 is now firmly grounded guys, and if you try bringing one on an aircraft you may be to, as in welcome to the notorious nofly list.

I sympathise with those members who due to how they purchased the device or where they live still have the device and want to return it but can't. If you are willingly keeping the Note 7, go ahead. DO NOT try and carry it on an airplane. Quite frankly, in the extremely unlikely event your Note 7 overheats/vents/melts/explodes etc (choose your description) at this point if anyone else is injured (smoke inhalation etc) you are open to civil litigation. If you are harmed (device smokes on your nightstand etc) do not expect to sue Samsung.

Oh, and for the who knows how many times I have said this on the Note 7 forums. I am a Pilot with Air Canada, so don't get upset with the messenger and call BS (many have) at your own peril.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] invisiblesense:
My original Note7 is still going strong. I'll keep on using it until imei gets blocked or until Samsung decided to take it off me.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] eighty1:
Not true. I flew Friday out of Atlanta to Detroit then flew back on Sunday. No issues at and they are not specifically checking for the Note 7. Obviously, you don't want to be that person whose not catches fire . What are the chances though?

I will keep mine because I got it for free due to a silly incident upon return. I bought a black and blue coral to decide on what color to keep later. Went to best buy to return the black one but gave her the box for the blue coral and she returned it and I then noticed I gave her the wrong box and it refunded me the outright cost. I said I actually don't want to return the blue... Long story short she said, "well best buy can eat the cost because I can't reverse a purchase you made with PayPal, so just give me right box with the right serial and barcode to return and you can keep it." Deal!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
I turn off or disable these features:

AOD, NFC, BT and Wifi. I only turn them on when I need (except for AOD). My Note 7 has never overheat. I optimize it regularly thru setting options. I also never overcharged it. I don't know how other users can make it explodes.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
I honestly don't know what's worse in that situation. I mean, on Friday they didn't have the U.S. ban by the F.A.A. in place, they announced it would go into effect on Saturday at 12 noon Eastern time so you flying out of Atlanta - and I'm assuming you were using a traditional airline and not a private chartered aircraft. Even so as long as you had the device powered down and not charging you were good to go but I suspect that wasn't the case and you might have used it in-flight, might have even charged it, I don't know.

So, with respect to what's worse it's either:

1) the fact that you willfully took a Note 7 on a commercial airliner knowing about the situation

2) nobody apparently doing their damned jobs at the airport and checking for the presence of a Note 7 device

There's another member here that's an actual commercial airline pilot and he's reported that at least his airline has made attempts to educate their personnel about the Note 7 and what to do in case one is encountered.

But the fact that you flew back on Sunday (by your own admission) after the ban was fully in effect and it became a

Federal offense

to carry a Note 7 on a commercial flight (punishable by a $180,000 fine and potential incarceration as well) and you did all that willfully, good lord man.

That's simply ridiculous by any standard of measurement. :eek:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Iriepixxel:
You can't have it back, Samsung!

I'll be rockin my 7, with absolutely NO worry, until Samsung graces us with the (hopefully) all powerful beast that will then be the Note 8!

Assuming of course, the current debauchery doesn't result in Samsung euthanizing the entire Note model line. Here's to hoping Samsung doesn't turn a blind eye on us die hard Note enthusiasts who've been rocking an S-Pen since inception.

Otherwise I'll be reppin my 7 until the day gApps, and every other APK ceases to operate properly.

Lol

?

#I'mKeepingMyNote7 #NotSamsungsFault #BlameTheConsumer
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
You got lucky with your return flight.

The FAA ban went into effect at noon on the 15th.

The ICAO ban is in effect TODAY.

It is now a criminal offence to bring a Note 7 on an aircraft. That doesn't matter if it is a private rental, charter, or airline it is a prohibited item.

Once again, I am a Pilot with Air Canada, I fly the Airbus A319/320/321.

So, if I shoot someone in a back alley or run a red light can i brag to everyone that I didn't get caught therefor it is okay?

Aviation authorities and airlines are taking this BAN very seriously. At this point if you are caught you will be charged. How clear do I have to be? "unlawful interference" also covers the dreaded T word "terrorism, it is that serious.

You want to risk the ban, enjoy the flight it may be your last.......ever. You WILL be on a watch list and nofly list.

I am going to take the gloves off here. Like Chippy I am getting annoyed. Want to keep your Note 7, fine, that is up to you. Want to fly with it? YOU ARE AN IDIOT
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
My question is who would want to keep using the Note 7 knowing Samsung is never going to update it past where it is now? Want Android 7.0 from Samsung? Tough luck. It will probably also be blocked from using apps like Samsung Pay soon enough, if not already. Spending $800+ on a phone that is this limited is an awful choice IMO.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] eighty1:
I guess I should've also said I wouldn't fly with it again. I honestly don't care to be a rebel. As I got to the airport I got the notification about it being banned. At that point I chose not to discard the phone with such short notice. I took the risk. #shrugs I will be keeping it for a time as it isn't main phone, but won't risk flying with it. I assume most people who decide to keep it wouldn't continue to fly with it.

The main point of responding to the post was in response for the matter of fact statement of them checking phones, which wasn't the case. I doubt many people who had flights this weekend were in position to just throw it away. If 1 out of 3 phones were catching fire I wouldn't have it in my possession at all. I'm quite certain there were individuals who flew back with it. Choosing to continue to fly with it isn't worth it for anybody.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
So why did you bother? I didn't read it by the way.

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Maybe it's different in the US, but here in Europe many people fly once per year on annual holiday. I travel more than that, but even so, not taking it on a plane is no big deal. I'm only planning on keeping it until end of December anyway, assuming that's the cut off for the Samsung refund.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
Well then, good explanation. I retract my idiot statement and reserve it for future use if you fly with it again! I myself was caught on a 4 day trip, returning late Wednesday night. Thursday morning I was able to take care of it.

In Canada, and now thanks to ICAO you should have it confiscated at security. It is now a prohibited item under dangerous goods regulations. The TSA has taken the extra step of saying as of noon on the 15th they will fine anyone caught at security with one.

Our Air Canada agents at the boarding gate are making announcements. Part of our company Q&A guide says a customer who advises the gate agent they have a Note 7 will have a choice of a FULL refund of their ticket or rebooking, at a later time of their choosing to allow them time "to properly have their device refunded or exchanged". I think that is a fairly good deal that I support 100%. The flight attendants also make a PA asking anyone with a Note 7 to identify themselves. If the Note 7 is found on board the aircraft after all that, well now you've done it. Your phone may not be toast but you will be.

The Note 7 is dead folks. It sucks that Samsung isn't offering the same great refund / exchange deals everywhere.

I do miss my Note 7, even though I only got to fly with each version one pairing!

Edit: I used to be the chairman of my union's security committee at a former job (ALPA Canada rep). You would be surprised at the number of prohibited items that make it through security. Never mind the official details. One incident we had an American Pilot travelling to visit friends in Calgary, Alberta a few years ago who "forgot" about his handgun being in his carry on. It was found on his return flight! Does that mean, no "not true" the TSA doesn't look for guns because he didn't get caught? No, it means he was lucky. The ban wasn't in effect your first flight, the TSA one was on your return. Now, thanks to ICAO there is a wordwide ban. You got lucky once, I wouldn't try again!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] :
No one tried replacing battery with the one from S7?, it's smaller in capacity and size so that should work...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
OT: A few years ago, myself and someone who is now a close friend (but who at the time I didn't know) were travelling to the US for a sales kickoff for the outfit we had just joined. It was his first day - he literally just joined and we were flying out on his 1st day on the payroll. He had packed in a hurry and forgotten that he carried a large hunting knife in his holdall, which he tried to take on as hand luggage.

Needless to say, he was arrested and detained and missed the sales convention. Very fortunately he managed to convince the police that it was a genuine oversight and avoided prosecution, but it was a very stressful start to his new career!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Braca Ganon:
I just cracked the top corner of my screen... Therefore will be ordering a note 5 ! Otherwise i would keep the note 7 until the last day of full refund is offered... Just my 2 cents
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] kcwhales:
Is there anyone having issue with N7 in UK. I love my fone and am keeping it
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
Yeah fortunately for the most part if you get "caught" at security and are genuinely as surprised as them due to an accident, they'll be human and let you go.

But, right now in the Note 7 case, you pass security, you ignore the gate announcement, you ignore the flight attendant announcement, well no one is going to have much luck at that point saying "oops".

My Father in law coaches Biathlon. He quickly grabbed a bag for carry on before a flight once. It rang all the bells for explosives. He totally forgot that was his bag he carried all his ammunition in for Biathlon range practise. He was let go as well!

This situation sucks and is unpresidented. Samsung could have done better, and hopefully still will but overall I am impressed with how quickly they have moved for such a large company.

Did I mention I miss my Note 7?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borisb:
No one is having issues, until they are having issues.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mvtm:
Hi guys, something happened to me.

As i was prepared to send my Note 7 to the Tx address to dispose of my Note 7. I received an email from Ecommerce of Samsung.com that my refund was already in process. That it shouldn't be later than a week that i receive it.

I am/was ready to send it back as i already purchased an iPhone 7 Plus 256GB as my daily driver. But i'm getting doubts if i should return it now that i've "gotten" a refund. I have never turned the Note 7 on, nor won't use, as i already went with the iPhone. The thing is that my phone is a V1....

I'm not entirely sure why, to keep a Note 7 that i won't be turning on and which i have never turned on, but would you do it?

I am in Venezuela and i have it on my vacations house in the US. It's already packed in the return box. The original Note 7 accessories and box i was sent back to Venezuela as a memoir. Didn't went the S7 Edge route as i'm currently using an S6 Edge and didn't want to have the same phone .... in practicality. So went with the iPhone for resale value in the meantime.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] kcwhales:
Some comments from US users really got me scared. I have been using the phone now for 1 month and to be honest is really performing well. I supervise when doing fast charging and it is just on normal temperature. Even s7 gets hot when charging and also during heavy usage. This is common thing with most phone.

Above all,I feel is not fair to all samsung users. Samsung should launch new note immediately and ask us to replace not taking this power house from us. I AM BEGIN TO GET THAT INFO FROM SAMSUNG THROUGH MY PHONE,THEY JUST POP UP ...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
I live in Indonesia. My Note 7 was given from Hongkong. Due to the flight ban, I have no way to return it to Hongkong. Samsung hasn't sold Note 7 in Indonesia. So i cannot return it in Indonesia. Thus my only option is to keep using it.

Performance wise and aesthetically, I think it is better than S7 Edge, S7 or Note 5. My Note 7's battery maybe manufactered by ATL. I can understand if some of the replacement units are having problem. After having watched Note 7 tear down video at Jerryrig's Youtube channel I think it is not an easy task to replace the battery. I am hoping that ICAO would lift the flight ban for Note 7 soon and the cause of the problem to be found.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Boy Bisaya:
Let's change the thread title to

Who is still using their Note 7 (on the ground)?

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Check for local Samsung Service Center. They can process it for you in case you decide to return it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
Thanks for the info, sir. I shall continue to use my Note 7 til it shows any sign of hazardous activities ::laugh: #I_love_Note7
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
You already know the answer to your questions and what the right thing to do is, you don't need anyone else offering you info or suggestions on that.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ares93:
I've been testing a Note 7 for a week. Trying to force this issue under controlled circumstances. Looks like the one i'm testing is solid. Even passed 96 hour, and counting, of stress testing while plugged in.

And don't worry those of you that panic when you see a Note 7. Precautions have been taken.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
And if it fails, then what?

Who - in your particular case of stress testing the device in ways that even Samsung would probably consider a bit extreme for such extended periods of time - would technically be to blame for the failure, you and your testing methods or... ?

I'm asking a serious question here based on your posted information so please understand that's my intent.

The recent Mashable video where they absolutely tortured a Note 7 to death wasn't a good thing, in my opinion, because nobody would ever expect any device to survive such conditions (not even Samsung obviously), but of course now that they utterly destroyed that Note 7 they can still return it to Samsung and get a full refund for it even in spite of it probably not failing for the same reason(s) that all the other ones have.

People can understand that, right?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mickeywdw1254:
ares93 - do not feed the troll and they might go away. You can probably have a more intellectual conversation with a wall anyway.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Vic35:
No box in the mail and corporate verizon wont take them.. this device makes a great tablet on wifi
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] notefreak:
I wish everyone well, but please, those deciding to keep it, don't go sue Samsung or cry to the Verge. We don't want Samsung destroyed. They are hoping to get all the phones back to correct their reputation. Instead, 40 percent have not returned the phone and Samsung is now victim of jokes, ridicule... with so many devices still in the loose you are making it harder for them in reality. So take it as your own responsibility. And may they all stay safe.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
Since the second recall went into effect, it's not really a possibility to sue Samsung for issues with the Note 7 - they've done what's required of them by publishing the recall and contacted governmental consumer public safety agencies in all the countries where the Note 7 was being sold. They've done their part which has relieved them of any potential serious legal ramifications for incidents that take place after that 2nd recall went into effect.

Persons that had Note 7 incidents prior to the 2nd recall may have some recourse depending on whether their Note 7 was an original unmodified version (pre-1st recall unit that did not receive the firmware update or replacement) and also some post-1st recall units that were replacement models with the different battery that arrived back in their hands before the 2nd recall went into effect.

We'll see more reports and stories about this in the coming weeks, you can be absolutely certain of it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
I agree. Apple {and Google) might be behind all of these. Especially because Samsung has managed to release Note7 before Apple releases iPhone7 and iPhone7+ which are also not a big upgrade over iPhone6s.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] THS1989:
Mine is fine. Still using it.

Stays cold.

Power saver always on.

Fast charge disabled.

I don't wireless charge.

I don't play mobile games.

So yeah.... I don't see the point of returning it when every other phone here sucks imho. Maybe if my carrier had 128GB Pixel XL but they only stock 32GB and in the ugly 2 tone black / grey color.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] winol:
my prerecall note7 worked really fine, had it for a month, then got the replacement one on 10th Oct, and this works fine too, runs cool, a little warm when using it heavily, but to normal temperatures , batt at 35 celsius max, cpu at 55 celsius max, I live in a hot area, 30 celsius , Now, I went to my carrier, and they tell me no blocking or bricking devices, And most important, warranty is VALID , so, in the 11 months left, if it burns or malfunctions, they will honor the warranty by exchanging for any other phone, or, at any time I can still get it replaced for any model if changing my mind about 2nd recall, my carrier is telcel, the largest in Mexico, so, as I never travel by air, or live in a fire prone wooden house, I am happy keeping my silver titanium note 7 at least until the S8 release, if it has spen, I would make effective the recall option they offer
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
Please avoid using a powerbank. All phones will heat up when we use a powerbank. The modern battery cell is very condensed, so using a powerbank may cause battery cell meltdown in the phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Yes no problems here in UK. Love the device too its a good yard ahead of the competition imo!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] galeanoandres:
Im still using mine, v1 no problem what so ever , no heat etc etc .. my question is thou when will the FAA lift the ban on Note 7 , im traveling in 6 month :-/ and if i can't take it ill ship it 0_0.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] br0adband:
It's a very safe bet to say the ban is permanent and it's not going to be lifted or removed ever.

EDIT:

After some research at the F.A.A.'s website, there's no indication that they would ever remove the ban in place considering the recall of the Note 7 and that fact that it's no longer sold in retail channels.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] AdrianR2016:
This may be helpfull. How to stop the software update that would eventually limit the battery of Note 7?

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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] koppee1:
Still using my note 7.. But only until I get my new phone...v20.. pick up is October 31... But my note 7 works great.. To bad I have to give it up
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
Still using mine till 2nd November when my one plus 3 arrives... yey
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Boy Bisaya:
Can you provide details how a powerbank can heat up a phone?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] sonhy:
same here, still rocking the note 7 :) the s pen is just too damn useful.

plain old normal usage, no heat monitoring, fast charging powerbanking everyday, in the sun, in the rain, as though the 0.1% failure rate is some how like a fact, or like mathematics is somehow a real thing too... only bloody cons is sometimes needing a charge at night, and so having to charge on a small ceramic dish within reach of course, and telling the odd iphoo head that's it's the older note 6 and not the new exploding note 7 :p
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] The Phone Company:
I find these posts very suspicious. May be genuine, but it's like saying I am still driving my Ferrari, but only until my Ford Focus arrives… yet

That "yey" is very subliminal
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
As it happens, for years I've been charging my phones and tablets in the kitchen and the place I put them is right next to the cooker with its infra-red hot plates. So all I do is move the phone 12 inches to the right and charge it on top of the cooker. It can burst into flames all it likes and it wouldn't do any damage there. It never gets more than luke warm anyhow.

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I don't find it remotely suspicious. In fact I am doing the exact same thing, albeit waiting for an S8 and hanging on to my Note 7 until the last possible moment to return it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
Its only yey as i will have something thats fairly nice and cheep to last till the Note8
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] The Phone Company:
Why would you say yay if you currently had the known best smartphone released to date and knew you were waiting for a replacement that was a significant downgrade and actually be happy with that? A oneplus is not a Galaxy S or Note.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mcmikecruz1:
I wanna keep mine as long as possible also . Does anybody know if and when the cut off date is for returns ?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] The Phone Company:
Point taken. Here's my point, it appears now with Note 7 fiasco everyone is rushing out to buy phones that aren't Samsung. Pixel, V20, Apple, OnePlus, etc, etc. And they are all promoting these, whereas, being on a Samsung Note forum and all, considering the Samsung vs Apple "cyberwars", well for me, I am not fussed. I don't even need a new phone. Quite happy with my Note 4 as I have been for the past 2 years.

Yey :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
That's not suspicious at all. I am doing same thing. Just waiting for Nov 7 for my plus 3.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
I don't have an old phone to move back to as i sold my note3 so for me it has had to be something new.