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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Milly7:
If no one else confirms give me a day or so. I am currently on Lineage and may have to restore back to stock to confirm.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] xxBrun0xx:
Weird, I'm on Resurrection remix and am currently under 2 hours SOT with 63% left :S did you wipe system before flashing?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Unbornlegend123:
Yeah I did. Always a full clean flash before installing a ROM. I went to bed with 40% left and 8.5 hrs SOT. STILL going today
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] rondias18:
Got the phone on Friday, first full discharge. I'm totally impressed. Never have I even seen 6hrs in the SOT before, but this is outrageous. Amazing amazing amazing.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
over 2 days on no charge
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mobrules777:
This phone is a beast.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mobrules777:
Same charge cycle as above. Love the screen on time.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
So I got my z play a few days ago, the battery is insane, but memory management seems rather poor. I usually have 1 gig free but apps are still closing themselves, I'm on

Npn 25, have you had different experiences?

I could just be spoiled by the 6 gigs in my oneplus..
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] xDark_:
Are you on N? Motorola has been known to have some pretty aggressive RAM management but I was able to multitask up to like 8 apps or so on mine, or at least have 4 apps open with Spotify in the background.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Yeah :( Darn, I'm messing with some kernel configurations in exkm.. Trying to see if that will help any.. >__<
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] xDark_:
Very strange. Never encountered an issue though I only use a few apps daily (Twitter, Reddit, Telegram, YouTube, stuff like that) so I might be considered a light user.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Jose-MXL:
What ROM are you using? is that LOS?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] mobrules777:
No ROM at all. Stock android 7.0. Just disabled the bloatware from VZW.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] pillopoulos:
I think it's a pitty to put custom rom on this device... It is so good in general, performance, battery life, camera.

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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
What were you using in your Z Play?

I get only 5-6 hrs screen on time.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
That's pretty terrible. How's your brightness? I've got mine at 50% auto and I'm getting at least 10 hours per day.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
I have the idea that Magisk 12.0 hide is consuming a lot of battery. Didn't have the possibility to do a test with similar actions, so it's more like an impression. Maybe I compare 3 hours of doing nothing with and without active hide the next days.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] user822:
Battery is ridiculous

over 60h off the charger, and listening to spotify too when the screen was off

My Nexus 5X running the same apps in the end got 2.5h screen time being 12h off the charger, before it died. Glad i dumped that POS
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] josip-k:
i'm in the same boat as you, switched from nexus 5x. i mainly got this phone for battery :) i'll post my nubers when i'm at 5%, i'm at 8h30m SOT with 26% left
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] pillopoulos:
The thing is that eventually, it's not only battery. It's an all around phone after all... That's my usage

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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] josip-k:
true, everything except camera beats bullhead. this phone is perfect if you ask me. i rarely even use camera.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] pillopoulos:
The camera is not top notch, but is really quite good. I can't complain at all, even about the camera

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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] josip-k:
yes, it's not bad at all. does what it's supposed to do.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
My brightness always remain at very low!

Can you show your battery usage?

Please
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
Oh dang, maybe something's keeping your phone awake all day (check wakelocks)? I used to have Cool Tool installed and it prevented deep sleep. Removing it fixed it.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Wakelocks?

Did you mean moto display?

And what is Cool Tool and deep sleep?

Can you please explain?

It'll be helpful!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
Not Moto Display. Just any rogue app that hangs around keeping the phone awake while the screen's off.

Cool Tool is just an app I used to use.

Deep sleep is what normally happens when you turn your screen off. If you have rogue wakelocks, your phone cant enter deep sleep (and wastes power).
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Ohk

How can i know about the app that is keeping the phone awake while the screen is off?

I haven't installed any app that keeps my screen on like moto display.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
[MENTION=6352375]Yash24[/MENTION], please read the first posts in the BBS thread to learn about wakelocks ;)
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Can you tell me if you get 10 hrs Screen On time in one single charge or frequent charging in between after full charge?

Please.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
Only one charge. And so far today I've had screen on for 5 hours with 60% left.

What's the point in telling you I got at least 10 hours SOT with charging in between? It's meaningless and misleading. :confused:
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
My MZP is off?

Can anyone inform me how they're getting 9-10 hours of SOT? I'm running MM and I don't have much apps that should be running in the background keeping my phone awake. Does the SOT correlate to how long the device has been on? For ex. I had 8 hours of SOT the past 2 and 3/4 days. I'm guessing if I use it heavily in one day and get maybe 10 hours of SOT than the device will probably not last for 2 days like the other cycle right?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
8 hours over 3 days sounds terrific. That's right; the longer it's been on, the less SOT you'll get over that same time, since you got your cell radios on and whatnot. It shouldn't be that bad though. I reckon 1 hour SOT less for each extra day? (pulling a number out of my backside)
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
hmm. Todays a little odd though. I charged my phone to 94 at like 8pm last night. I have 68 now but only with 2 and a half hours of screen time. Of course I was doing other things,but I feel like my phone is being buggy. I'm so compelled to root my MZP and use a rom, but this phone is already solid with MM.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
26% drain for 2.5hrs SOT over 10+ hours doesn't sound bad at all. You're still in line for 10 hours SOT. :confused:

If you wanna try stuff like Greenify, just root and use Xposed on the stock ROM. I love the stock MM ROM too so I won't be leaving it anytime soon.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
You think so? I don't know how everyone is able to get 8-10 and still have like 20-30% left. I've literally never experience 9 or 10 SOT before. Yea I'll try Greenify. I won't root my phone though.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
All I do battery-savings-wise is Xposed Greenify, and dark themes in some apps (for aesthetics mainly). I'm chatting, browsing, using Spotify and Youtube, with some nav and calls, and get 10hrs SOT (in 1 day, not over 2 days) with about 15-20% left. And with battery saver, that final 15% lasts me about two more.

It's hard to know why you're not getting 9+ hours without any usage stats (but based on your 26% loss in 2.5 hours, you seem to be headed for 9+ hours anyway).
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
Do you need root access for Xposed? I'm like new to this whole battery saving trend. I did some research on it, but I honestly don't understand. I did find out that Greenify + Xposed = Good Combo for saving battery. Thats basically what I do everyday as well. By the way I really appreciate you helping me! Its my first time making an account here on XDA. I'm glad I did.. :good:
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Kdx10:
Yeah. Xposed requires root. You can use greenify even without root or without xposed installed but most profit if u install xposed
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
Thats good to know. Thank you! I think I'm going to have to just calibrate my battery. I'm only at 56 percent and have a mere 3 and half hour of SOT. Hopefully the calibration will work.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
Battery calibration has a bit of a reputation for being bogus broscience. I don't think it'll make a difference.

What kind of stuff do you do on your phone on a daily basis (as much detail as you can)? Do any gaming, GPS? How's your brightness? And how often do you charge (every day, every 2nd day)?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
Honestly I am not much of a power user. I listen to music, surf instagram, send pics through snap chat., and play a little bit of games. My brightness is always on like 30-40%. I've recently started to charge it whenever my mzp is getting low on battery. I would say usually every 2 days. Here's some screenshots. I did get a decent avg today. Nothing like 9-10 of SOT though
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dplakta:
30-40% is pretty low. :confused: If you're in the sun a lot, your auto-brightness might be going higher than mine. I wonder what's else could be causing the (relatively) lower SOT. Instagram is a white app and thus bad for AMOLED, but I don't think it should make so much difference.

Try charging your phone and using it for ~10 hours in the same day (kinda difficult;)) instead of over two, and see what percentage you land on. I'm guessing you should reach at least 9 hours SOT.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
I actually just hit 9 hours of SOT with 10% left.. This lasted one full day and then some. I still feel like other's have better battery life. 9-10 Hours SOT but like 20-30% battery left.. thats amazing.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dandrumheller:
SoT is only one piece of the equation. I can drag better than 10hrs SoT out, but not with multi day standby. You need to look at screen on drain per hour, screen off drain per hour, and deep sleep time versus total screen off time. As an example, I see about 7% drain per hour of screen on, browsing, at about 40% auto brightness. I get roughly 1-2% idle drain on LTE, depending on signal strength, and maybe 1% per hour on WiFi. I usually see about 60% of screen off in deep sleep. Once you know where these numbers are, you can start to troubleshoot problems
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
That was a big answer haha... Yea I'll try to keep record of them. I usually turn lte and wifi off when I dont need them
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dandrumheller:
Here's my run so far today, as an example:

2h33m screen on, at 17% battery use (17% / 2.5h = 6.8% per hour screen on)

17h30m total up time, less 2h30m screen on, gives 15h idle time at 33% battery use (33% / 15h = 2.2 % per hour idle). This is a little higher than normal due to using phone as a hotspot for roughly 2 hours. On LTE probably 14 hours today. I leave all radios and services running all the time. Screen at 40%, auto brightness.

I'd say this is fairly typical drain for me (it's been a little worse since the N update, but I haven't done a factory reset because it's still good enough for me. Basically on pace for 5h SoT with 35h off charger.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dandrumheller:
Vs this morning, with lots of browsing and forums at home on WiFi. On pace for 10h SoT with 40% left over 12h or so. Very dependent on usage.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Beta versions are very unstable and are not ready to be use in the device.

So this is normal.

Beta versions of any app especially google service can drain alot of battery!

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It's MUCH!

I had never hit even 7 hrs SOT in 2 days!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] pillopoulos:
Got another crazy battery life today from our "beast" using the latest LOS official rom. Always WiFi on, even if it wasn't connected to a router, no lte at all. Mostly indoors

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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] junyamada:
As I now have my Moto Z Play, quick question, are your phones encrypted by default? To those who aren't (but previously are), any differences on battery performance?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] josip-k:
there is no difference, and the question u ask doesnt have anything to do with battery life.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
can anyone explain why my app usage is so high? specifically kernel and android system? I compared mine with others and it seems off. I'm on a custom deodexed stock nougat rom.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Some process may be hanged in memory and is causing drain. Usually when i see Android System in top i reboot my phone to fix it.

Anyway after Nougat update the battery is no longer the same, some days is good, others is pretty bad.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
I mean my battery is pretty similiar to MM. Maybe even better since I'm rooted now. It just seems high cause I've never seen it on the top list.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
im not rooted but android system and kernel are usually at the top of mine. im gettin 2.5 days of battery
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
hmm cool. I gotta stop expecting god like battery from my phone. It's already a step up from my nexus 6p. :good:
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] junyamada:
I'm only getting a whole day of battery life with roughly 5-6hrs of sot.

I'm always on LTE, dual sim. Apps are viber, skype, Facebook, tapatalk.

Is that bad? Do I need to send my phone for replacement?

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I'm nowhere near that kind of endurance. I've tried resetting the phone twice (not yet unlocked/rooted though) after updating to Nougat.

Just had the phone few days ago.

Need your recommendation guys.

Thanks!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
It isn't perfect.

I was also getting same SOT (Around 5-6hrs).

But after performing Hard reset and wipe cache partition (Together) my battery life becomes insane!!

I started getting 8-9 hrs SOT with high usage then previous (When i was getting 5-6 hrs SOT with normal usage).

Perform hard reset and then Wipe cache partition.

And observe for 1-2 day.You will definitely get the difference.!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] junyamada:
How did you do your hard reset from your end? Was it via the backup and reset? Or from the recovery?

I actually did a hard reset after I updated to the latest version to Nougat which is what I have now.

I'll try again one more time. Hopefully, it get's fixed.

Thanks!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
Yea it seems like you need to do a hard reset. I wouldnt use apps like facebook. Its known for draining battery. I keep my apps minimal to be honest. Also get greenify and root booster(if rooted) I have no experience with dual sim but Im sure thats another factor. Having bad service drains battery. Keep location off and use device only also dont forget to turn off location and bluetooth scanning. Post screenshots of your usage and stats when you can. I'm sure we can give you advice.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
I had performed via recovery.

And Make SURE to perform hard reset and Wipe cache partition Together or you will not get any results.

First perform hard reset then wipe cache.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
How is your app usage so low? Mine is at like 40~ percent. I do have several messaging apps and instagram, but your numbers is nuts.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dandrumheller:
Because it's reported as a percentage of total drain. That was a short run with tons of screen on, so the screen eats a proportionally bigger piece of the battery pie.

Compare to today's use - longer run with very minimal use. Apps constitute a huge proportion because screen is almost nil.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
ah I understand now. I dont know how people manage to put up such higher numbers with their MZP. I feel like I'm doing everything right. I 'm on stock MM with root. I have greenify with xposed framework. Anyways thanks for replying!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Eighthourblink:
I do have to say that this phones battery is a beast. I just switched to this phone after using a Droid Turbo 2 as a work phone. I was excited to use a Turbo 2 since i like walking around and playing Pokemon Go and knew that the Droid Turbo 2 has a big battery. On average i was able to play Pokemon Go on the turbo for about 3 - 3.5 hours before i would hit 15%. Anxious to try out the phone today. I just got back today, walking around with the Moto Z play, and ended up walking around for 3 hours and it only used about 30% of the battery!

BEAST MODE!!!

Now, it is a new phone, which currently had Android 7 installed on it ( turbo 2, i upgraded, never did wipe it clean), new system / battery. But still, holy crap its still impressive! Running on stock, no root, with many bloatware apps disabled.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushandidan:
Bought the mod just to see what would have happened. Just used for reading, texting, calls and occasional clash of clans. Two full days and shockingly still on the mod. Wish I had another battery monitor since I'm having a hard believing.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash24:
Still 80% And 35% of mod is left???????
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushandidan:
Yea, thought it would have died much earlier.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ebrahim Ali:
This is just ridiculous.My Moto X play's best SOT was 7 hours and that was with a custom kernel and greenify.This phone has a smaller battery and a more powerful SOC ,these numbers are just unreal.And I still have 20% left in the tank!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] EspElement:
Something doesn't look right. I got the mod and mine don't last that long. I get about 3 days on this phone with the mod. About 5-6 hour SOT. You have wifi and internet off when not using it?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ebrahim Ali:
There seems to be a bug with the battery settings on my phone.When I go to see the battery settings it doesn't refresh from the last time I checked that setting page.I have to clear it from recents for the battery settings page to properly refresh.

Has anybody else run into this issue?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushandidan:
Just wifi. Will be trying again starting today since I haven't charged the phone since then. I was wondering if it was a bug or something but I do know I had my screen on for at least 4hrs day for what I was doing at work. So once its ready die I will check and post what i got.

Also would like to know what else i could use to read the battery stats? Gsam does not work for me once the mod is connected.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushandidan:
I tried again, and this is what I got on my second night. Not as good as the first reading but still good enough for me.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
This was with the projector mod? ???
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushandidan:
Its the battery mod
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hulhulsulsul:
My 3 months old Moto Z Play is giving me terrible SOT. It came with Android Nougat out of the box, I set it up from my Google account backup and started to use it. For the first 2 weeks, I could only get 3-3,5 hours of SOT with no gaming at all (Browsing with Chrome, watching Youtube videos, WhatsApp, moderate phone use). I tried to wipe cache, no results...

Today I applied a factory reset through recovery mode and set the phone up as a new device (not restored settings from my google account) so far battery drain seems to continue. There are barely 15 apps installed and I also uninstall unnecessary Google Apps to make a fresh start. I don't know what drains my battery, but I really want to see 8-10 hours of SOT with my MZP.

So far I've tried,

Wipe Cache,

Factory Reset,

Safe Mode,

Resetting App Preferences

None of these helped stopping the battery drain. Any suggestions?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ebrahim Ali:
How's your cell signal?Are you using 4g?Dual Sims?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
Single sim Lte and Wi-Fi on at the same time all day. No letting the phone just "sit" with a pdf open or something.

casted my screen to Chromecast for about two hours watching tv shows and Lightweight gaming for another hour, constantly bouncing between these garbage dating websites.

Low signal all day long.

This phone is legit.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hulhulsulsul:
Single SIM, tried putting it into both LTE and 2G networks (both receive excellent signal) yet, I'm experiencing more than 15% drain overnight.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ebrahim Ali:
Try installing gsam and better battery stats to check what is draining.wakelock detector can help as well.

If you use whatsapp or some other messaging app where you are part of a lot of groups ,that can leech battery as well

Edit:I can't be sure about this but having a large SD card in the phones affects battery as well.I notice my battery doesn't last long with my 64gb SD card installed
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] RRF12:
It's a rogue app running probably.I use a 200 gig sd an it doesn't cause any battery drain .
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hulhulsulsul:
this is more likely the case, I really don't think my 32GB sd card would drain 20% battery overnight. The battery even depletes faster when the screen is on. 30 minutes of Youtube video drains about 15% battery life on wifi and with less than half brightness.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
It's most likely an app is eating your battery. I'd suggest you get rid of Facebook and Facebook messenger if you have it. Upload screenshots of your usage so we can all take a look.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Yousvel:
My battery stats on 7.1.1

This is my battery stats on 7.1.1. I charged my phone on Saturday at 4:00 in the afternoon and it lasted still Monday, 10:30 AM.

That's the best phone for me not just for battery but the overall phone. I am pleased I bought it.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ebrahim Ali:
This phone is truly a monster
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hulhulsulsul:
Here are my battery stats. Unplugged 22 hrs ago, used it very lightly. Lost its charge mostly in standby.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Dchoi229:
Thats very odd.. I think something is either waking up your device or an app is draining your battery.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] hulhulsulsul:
I don't think it's hardware related. It's either an app I installed, or an operating system related issue. Last night I turned on airplane mode, next morning I saw my phone lost more than 20% battery. So the problem is not related to cell reception as well.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
How about AccuBattery? Are you sure it does not consume much while measuring?