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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Teddiesasmita:
It is basrd on my own experience and observation. My phones would generate more heat when i use a powerbank than the phone's charger. I watched a video about it in AA or Pocketnow and I learnt that the phone can send a signal to the charger when the battery temperature is rising, thus the charger may somehow lower its output. The problem is every brand may have their own proprietary protocol to communicate with the charger. Hope this is enough for you. :laugh:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XavierAD:
December 31st
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ilordvader:
Wont give it back till Samsung officially announces that it will power down the phone

i want to use it till i get the Galaxy S8

still dont even want to return it after that :fingers-crossed:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
It's quite possible they will never do that, although they may decide you can no longer return the phone after a certain date. Even that, I am not sure. My Note 7 no longer works as sold, i.e. with my Oculus headset. Here in the UK I am within my rights to ask for a repair or a refund or compensation, for up to 6 years after the purchase, for goods that are not (a) As described; (b) Of satisfactory quality; Or (c) fit for purpose. Clearly it would fail (b) and (c) so I don't think the vendor could refuse a return for years.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ilordvader:
I would love too keep mine

its a Historic phone :cowboy:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] millicent:
I am also waiting for my 1+3 to arrive eta 5 nov with some sort of 'yay'..;)

But again pretty much anything you can find on the market today is yay-worthy compared to my old m7..
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
I know is not. But my thinking goes as follows. It has good spec's and its cheep plus with 3rd party apps i can have the always on display and even though there is no curved screen i can get the app draw that slides out from the side. I can even get a usbc wireless charging receiver and stick in the case so that i can keep using my wireless charger's that i have in my office and at home.

Yes i will miss the pen a lot! and it's a shame to lose the waterproofing and i will miss touch wiz and the iris scanner (great to unlock the phone when painting or doing diy) but ive been using the Note series like a lot of you since the Note1 i bought my mum a Note2 then got a note3 got mum a note4 missed the 5 then got the 7. Pre Note i had htc. I thought i would try something different since it just has to last me a year till the Note 8 comes out. Plus there all android so most of what i love should hopefully be available or be made to work in some way.

Ps I've copied the apk files for Samsung camera and a few other bits. I desperately hope there is a way of making them work on the new phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] The Phone Company:
WAAAIT!! Hold your horses a minute, don't rush into things…

If you want 6" Curved Screen that looks just like a Note 7 get the Mate 9, due out next month. Almost identical to the Note 7, and then some, minus the S-Pen Stylus.

If you want a "Phablet" that utilizes the S-Pen Stylus to its fullest potential then focus on the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2.

Don't "rush in"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
For all you folks claiming to be watching the temperature of the phone in case it gets warm, that is not going to be useful. The phone can apparently catch fire and pop the casing even when it is off or not being charged. It isn't going to get hot until it's too late. And heat in general is unlikely to be causing the thermal runaway. It will be a shorting or over-reliance on current boosting circuitry that is causing the problem.

I still have mine and plan to keep it until the Next Big Thing is released. I'll be damn if Sammy's going to trick me into buying an older phone after causing me to regret the decision to sell mine my Note 4.

Samsung should absolutely let us rent the S7 until the next flagship arrives, in my opinion of course. But that is a way to seriously buy back some goodwill from all of us that got a real good rooking from this incident (traded phone, slim case (going out), Otterbox (work) , glass screen protector)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XanaviGTR:
And he is wrong you mean?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
Don't worry my wife says I'm wrong at times as well :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gclancer:
I bought the S7 edge couple days ago only because I will be traveling overseas in a couple of weeks and I cant take the note 7 with me. Note 7 is just way better. I might just sell the s7 edge when I come back from overseas
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
In the same way the Titanic and Hindenburg were historic. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ooMoo:
The titanic didn't burn ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] evo4g63t:
That's the nature of all charging its no different from plugging it into the wall in fact I'd argue it might be safer for the simple fact the amps aren't as high (assuming the bank doesn't support fast charging, most don't)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] webelieveInGodButDoHeinUs:
""a very close friend of mine" doesn't have to return his note 7, and still got his iPhone upgrade. said he will use both, how lucky
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] CerveCesar:
Yes the Note 4 is nice. But do you know how cool the IP68, Samsung Pay, wireless charge and Iris scanner are? Off course You don't ?

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I'm using my note 3 as my airplane phone. I've destroyed my Note 4 a total of 3 times? now it seats in a bin waiting for a new screen. For now, I will use my Note 7 with a temp widget amd the 80% charge limit. I ran a study on the top 3 reasons for ignition and these are 2 down ?50C max

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Watch how, so many phones are gonna be returned and how many people will move away from Samsung to Apple, LG and Huawei. And the Note 8 will never exist. At least nothing with an SPen on it anymore R.I.P. ☠

Me? I'm using and keeping mine ??

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Autocorrect: sits not seats ?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] invisiblesense:
I'm still thinking I might keep mine. All this fuss over exploding Note 7s will die down in a month or two. Yes I know there will be no updates or custom rom but the current features are more than enough for now. It's way better than anything else out there.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pappschlumpf:
Thinking about keeping it too. My N930F works like a charm. And well, if i switch to S7 edge, N7 port ROMs will stay on the same level, too if there won't be updates for N7 base. We'll see:) The options Samsung offers here in germany are not satisfying me in any way:(

Gesendet von meinem SM-N930F mit Tapatalk
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] invisiblesense:
Mine works immaculately too, and it's the original, one of the very first ones released (purchase date 5 Aug 2016). I just hope some custom ROM makers would keep theirs and develop new updated Nougat firmware.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] OkayGK:
I'm still using mine and will be keeping it. What Note 7 brings to the table for me is hard to replaced by any phone on the market today thus far.

Pixel with big [MENTION=237736]SS[/MENTION] bezels and no wireless charging, really? 2017 almost. i have wireless charging in my cars.

Anyhow i dont travel and if i would id take my old htc. Phone is just awesome, hopefully i would be able to keep using it, till new note comes out or whatever samsung decides to call it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] 2k10MBC300SPT:
idk if it's just me over thinking but all over sudden my phone does a lot of power cycling by itself. I feel like sammy is throwing bugs ota to eventually eliminate all N7 usage. I never experienced that prior to all of this crap. Other than that, I have not experienced anything odd. Anyone relate ?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] doc_loco:
Think you've got a battery related problem mine is still running ok
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
+1

The only update we recently had here was about 3 weeks ago for the green battery icon.

There was an original update about 1 week into the original N7 ownership (19th August was launch date here) that brought fingerprint unlock improvements (pretty much instant when pressing home key while locked) and a few other improvements, no other updates, so the issue is something else for sure.

Many mentioned getting this kind of behavior for their N4 when it's battery was having problems, so I would look that way, or just an app with corrupt settings.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
I used Package Disabler from the Play Store to disable all Samsung and Sprint "Update" apps....just use the search in the program to search for "Update" and disable each one (except the handwriting one which will bork your s-pen handwriting recognition).

Trying to keep Sammy from slipping me a Mickey...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] htcplussony:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge-explodes-while-charging_id86908

Not that customer. But didn't end up any better after trading in the note7.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
At some point, in the name of safety, the carriers and Google are going to join in. The carriers will start blocking Note7 IMEIs so all you'll be able to dial is 911. Google will disable access to Play Services and apps in the Play Store will start saying "This app is not compatible with your device." While many here want to carry on as if nothing's happened those with greater powers (Samsung, Google, the carriers, and governments) want this saga ended. When that happens of course there will be tons of threads asking how to spoof an IMEI (an XDA forbidden conversation BTW) to get wireless service back and discussions on hacks to get Google's services and apps working again.

Of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross' five stages of death (denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance) I'm afraid some folks here are stuck on "bargaining." The only reason the Note7's still on life support is to give people time to exchange or return it elegantly. Brute force is the next step. There is no valid reason for any one to push back when brute force comes as whether anyone here believes it or not the Note7 has been declared a hazard by its manufacturer, global governments, and societally. It's time to let it go. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jc2470:
Its a voluntary recall, and there has not been any mention of banning imei numbers. They would give a good heads up to give people time to return phones before that last resort. I talked to the regional att manager today and, she said we have to recommend powering off device and exchanging it, but they would not ban imei numbers without advanced notice. She also said she heard from other company higher ups the deadline is prob going to be end of year for returns.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Rather than asking people to prove the negative, name one good reason the carriers and Google

wouldn't

take the actions I indicated. All are within their powers. Other than preference and obstenence name one good reason for keeping a Note7? I loved my two as much as anyone here. But no mobile device is worth the frustration I experienced before I exchanged it and the ongoing frustration those attempting to keep it are bound to endure.

P.S. - Decisions of this magnitude aren't floated for a vote at the regional level before being made.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jc2470:
and yet here u are in note 7 forums LOL. Actually name anytime any have taken action like this of any phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
Because it would be illegal to interfere with the operation of a legally obtained and legally licensed communication device.

While the "voluntary" part doesn't have anything to do with it being voluntary for the consumer (it was voluntary for Sammy, not mandatory for them), it is not illegal to own a recalled product in the United States. I'm pretty sure they don't want the legal headache from disabling peoples' bought and paid for devices, on top of the legal headaches they already have. The phone simply had an unacceptable rate of failure, and given the PR nightmare and threat of potential lawsuits, they simply recalled the phone. We will find out the source of the failure in due time (hopefully).

It isn't like the phone is leaking noxious fumes. If it catches fire, you put it out. If it burns your leg, they told you so. If you harm another, you're going to get sued and/or go to jail. Consequences are clear, hence most of us are being hyper-vigilant until we can trade the damn thing in.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] balabok:
I just replaced my N7 with the updated N7 a couple of weeks ago. It's made in China and I read that the batteries from that region don't have any issues. Anyway, I'm keeping mine. If I need to fly then I'll use my N3.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Name any time a mobile manufacturer labeled their own device a hazard and pulled it completely off the market two months after it was launched.

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The recall was voluntary for Samsung - not users of a known hazardous device. Samsung has offered owners the option of a complete refund or an exchange with, in some cases, compensation. Let's say Samsung, Google, and the carriers render your Note7 unusable and you decide to take them to court. What's your defense to the judge? "Your honor, I paid for this device and really like it and therefore should be able to use it even though it has a know safety defect which lead to its recall and withdrawal from the market?"

While you may not like the idea of a refund or exchange as a remedy those are valid options for Samsung ensuring the phone is off the market and out of people's hands. When it is rendered unusable those options will still be available for hold outs so what's the damage? You can join one of the many class action lawsuits that are going to pop-up and try to get reimbursed for the time you wasted in this process, your inability to access wireless services you paid for, and even mental anguish. But even the scummiest of lawyers isn't going to go before a judge defending the right of people who bought a hazardous device to keep using it.

You guys can debate the statistics of how many Note7's may overheat but the fact that Samsung themselves labeled

all

Note7's defective is the determination of whether its safe or not. Same thing with global government agencies that are banning it from more and more places.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
What???

It's a voluntary recall. I am voluntarily decide to keep my "hazardous device". Much though it clearly irritates you. This pleases me :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
It doesn't irritate me at all. I assume you're a big boy and capable of making your own decisions and measuring the consequences of them. There's a vocal minority here of which you're one that has steadfastly decided to stick with the Note7. That's swell. Since this is a public forum discussion of various sides of any topic should be welcomed. I abandoned the ship, you're sticking with it, but there are many here looking for pros and cons to make their own decision on what to do. I don't agree with a lot of what you've said and you clearly don't agree with me. Hopefully though those in the middle are being aided in their decision by the discussion.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Great, I am glad you are not as dogmatic as some on here.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
However, you are not giving out clear information. No user will get in trouble for not returning their Note 7. I can think of a few scenarios where you might be at the losing end of a jury if you were to cause somebody harm... For example, if you were to have a fire with your note while you were driving and it caused you to swerve and you trash into somebody, then you'd probably be liable for the damage and any injuries.

Outside of the very few specific instances, however, it is very unlikely to cause you any kind of additional grief other than catching on fire and you having to put it in the sink or something. It could also burn your leg or your dresser... there was one guy that had to have skin grafts for the phone burning on his leg, so this is a very serious issue...

You just have to be careful and be constantly vigilant. If you're not willing to do that, you should return your phone immediately...

I am pretty sure that nobody's really keeping the phone just to spite Samsung, they're just keeping the phone because they did not have better alternatives that did not involve them being on the losing end of the deal... Also for some people it's just out-and-out and possible to return the phone at this point.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
At least to me, that's an excellent reason to move on from the Note7. I can't speak for anyone here but I've got enough going on in my life without having to constantly be aware of my phone's health. Combined with the fact that you can't use it on planes, trains, buses, and it likely falling victim to an increasing number of bans, it's at best a part time phone. Not mention the strange looks from people that recognize it as a Note7. The Note7 was the best phone Samsung ever made and I was sorry to give it up. But the guilt, cautiousness, and second doubts of continuing to use it outweighed the benefits. At least for me.

P.S. - The S7 Edge has grown on me. Its form factor is friendlier to use than the Note7's and it does 95% of what the Note7 did. It'll certainly serve me well until the S8 comes out.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
Ah, finally you accept it.. "at least for me"... Pretty much sums it up.

Every person on this forum is likely to be quite well aware of the risks. For you to keep challenging the logic of those that kept the phone IS NOT the purpose of this FORUM, and it certainly isn't your place to keep badgering those that are here to communicate with each other about the phone. Say it once and be done with ya.... Anything more is you spreading FUD. I want and enjoy your input, but your point has been made ages ago.

Consider this...

Phones pop all over the globe... IT IS A KNOWN FACT THAT CELLPHONE BATTERIES CATCH FIRE FROM TIME TO TIME! YET CELL PHONES AREN'T BANNED FROM FLIGHTS IN GENERAL DESPITE THE KNOWN RISKS... The danger is overblown because MEDIA HYPE!

AND BTW, the S7 is having its own battery issues... Doesn't look much safer ????
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
I'm speechless. And that's rare.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] wifiwizard:
Keeping my Note7

No way they are getting it back. It has NEVER even gotten warm. :cool:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pinetreehater:
It isn't going to show excessive warmth until it is too late. Don't let that be how you base your decision. The phone may be perfectly fine one minute, and in flames the next.

I definitely wouldn't keep the phone any longer than necessary.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
BarryH I do acknowledge some of the points you have made but I find myself thinking did he ever own one? You must remember people have been through the mill with this device. Toing and froing. You can have it....now you can't...you can have it now you can't. Those that have had time to evaluate this device think it's great.

Although the ignition element may not have been confirmed by sammy there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that there is only one component that can cause the results of what we have seen, Li-on batteries. If you feel you can minimise the risk or repair it yourself then that's got to be more worthy of respect than using it nonchalantly.

I am weighing things up myself I do see what your saying about no support and barring etc those thoughts have crossed my mind. However; on reflection I think although there may not be software support or warranty, maybe attempts to shutdown the original devices like mine (although that depends how you read into voluntary) but it's unlikely any barring would take place. I do put value on warranty but dont custom rom's & rooting void this anyway?

Yes keeping the n7 is a lot of effort to go-to. However, whilst I can't speak from experience I believe that's exactly what the type of people on xda devs do.

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The way I see it there's 3 opinions a, b and c. A strongly for keeping, b (me) the coward sitting on the fence and c strongly against. Isn't that a recipe for good discussion.

I'm swaying towards 'a' but it might only take samsung 6 weeks to conclude their finding and although we might not get the detail we all want, their reaction from that point will speak volumes. If they send out a disclaimer type statement to all those holding onto their n7 stating how liable they are for all mobile related fires and that they are in forcing a killer update then we can conclude we can't remedy (or at least not without manufacturing equipment). If they have a more relaxed approach then it was worth persisting. I'm happy to eat humble pie for this device.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
No, I owned two. A chronology.

Pre-order a black Note7 which arrived 4 days prior to the official launch in the U.S.

Order USB C accessories as well as three OEM black cases from different vendors.

Spend an entire day configuring my phone.

Samsung's latest and greatest phone becomes a laughing stock and instead of showing friends its cool features I'm explaining the low probability of it exploding.

Samsung stops sales and sends a non-blockable update to my phone that displays a nag screen 20 times a day reminding me my phone can explode.

Spend 3 hours returning the black Note7 the day AT&T starts safe phone exchanges and end up with a blue one.

Return all my black accessories to multiple vendors and order blue ones from multiple vendors.

Spend an entire day configuring my phone.

When the FAA completely bans all Note7's I give up and spend 3 hours at AT&T getting a S7 Edge.

Return all my blue Note7 accessories to multiple vendors and get silver S7 Edge accessories from multiple vendors. Some delayed because of the massive move to the S7 Edge from previous Note7 owners.

Spend all day configuring my phone.

Buy a 4G Tab A 8.0 with S Pen (adding $15 a month to my AT&T bill) to be able to have a portable device to take S Notes with.

Spend all day configuring my tablet.

I also owned Note's II-5 and own a Note 10.1 2014, NotePRO 12.2, and Tab A 8.0 with S Pen. I've been to a couple of rodeos.