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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Spike96:
Why am I keeping my Note 7?

Verizon has already issued me a full refund, so I literally have a free phone for the time being (I simply have to send in the phone to Verizon whenever I choose to upgrade.)

The actual chance of the Note 7 "bursting into flames" is EXTREMELY low (also consider there have been 0 reports of a Note 7 exploding after 10 days of device possession. This suggests that burn rate decreases with time.)

The Note 7 is simply the best phone on the planet. As soon as an equally or more appealing phone releases (like the S8), I will trade up.

It really comes down to this: I find it better to wait out the S8 release with a phone that is statistically extremely unlikely to burn (0.0014%) than to pay hundreds of dollars for a phone that I don't want (which I would be stuck with for at least two years).

You can tell me I'm being stupid all you want. In my mind, I'm being smart by taking advantage of the circumstances.

If my Note 7 happens to be the 0.0014%, that's on me. But excuse me for thinking that is unlikely to happen.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
You really shouldn't have to justify yourself mate. Sad, isn't it.

I'm in exactly the same boat, only haven't had my refund yet, so I guess I will be returning mine fairly soon :( But it's been useful to hang on to it for as long as possible. There's no way I am signing up for 2 years for a phone that's not as good (S7) and which will be out of date in 3 months. So I will be back to using my very old S2 until March/April I guess.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
please do us all a favour and stay on reddit.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] agaryt:
Wow men! You with your aggressiveness can't distinct who is who and behave like everyone attacked you...

I've got my note 7 still on me and yes I can read what you do you think I didn't understand ? What I'm saying is it is difficult to travel with it. I for some reason did flight last 2 months 3 trips and left note home every time not because air companies allow/not allow to have it on me but because I didn't want to stand ahead of choice: leave phone behind or do not flight. You don't have power to change people mind eg force security on an airport to let you go if they decide otherwise. On the other side nobody will stop you in your everyday life to keep note 7 it is your toy so calm down a bit. And your remark about Americans I take as offensive to them although I'm not American myself.

As I said : I have got my note 7 on me and it is still 100% battery but for me it doesn't mean to bark at everybody who thinks I should give it back that is the difference between us. No copy.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gurkburk92:
Also found this thread from Reddit. Been on this forum for a while & i had higher thoughts of people on here.

"Low chance of it bursting into flames" - Have you guys looked at how many of these phones have exploded? There was a few EVERY WEEK and it was gone as far as being banned from Airplanes & HUGE fines even if you "forget about it"/try to get it on the planes.

ALL THESE DEVICES HAVE A CHANCE OF BURSTING INTO FLAMES. You're not safe just because you made it through the first 10 days.

https://www.instrumental.ai/blog/20...used-samsung-galaxy-note-7-battery-explosions

You're not allowed to have this phone anywhere. You're pretty much only allowed to use it at your own risk, in your home. If you live in an appartment connected to other peoples appartments, you're putting them at risk as well.

Enjoy the eventual fines you guys will face.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
:laugh::laugh: there's a lot of people that 'find' this post I wonder what they must be looking for ;)

It's all PR now. :good: for a masterpiece of a phone & one of the lowest recall % going
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dishe:
Dude- but pornhub in multiple windows.

ROFL, I'm just trolling. I don't even like the Note series. However, I know people in person who keep and still use their Note 7. I've been in the same room as him and his phone, and while I think he's a bit foolish, I'm not afraid of it exploding like a bomb. I think we're overdoing it a little.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Spike96:
To my knowledge there have been around 200 burns. Out of appx. 5 million devices (2.5 original Note 7's + 2.5 replacement Note 7's). If you think those chances are significant, you should really play the lotto more.

Additionally, I don't know how else to characterize a 0.0014% chance. If you don't like "low" maybe I can use "infinitessinal". If I said there was a "reasonable" or "high" chance of the Note 7 burning, I'd just be lying. 0.0014% is not anywhere near a reasonable worry...

I didn't say I'm safe after 10 days. I said I'm safer .

I understand I can't fly with the Note 7, but I don't plan on flying until late next year. The S8 will be out by then. I'll exchange as soon as it releases.

Lol... fines...

Media exaggeration + fear mongering has completely dismantled the reality of the situation. An extremely small minority of these phones have burned. There is no other way to characterize a 0.0014% chance of a burn other than a "low chance".
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] OkayGK:
Who are these people? so much concern!

Thank you guys, truly thank you but the N7 will stay in the pocket as long as possible!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] sonhy:
you can't teach probability to those who haven't learnt simple reasoning skills. just give them a candy and move them along :)

btw, samsung has spies in all telecommunications companies in all countries on all planets (the headquarters, naturally being in little Korea, love their Ramen pork soups! ), so since they have all the imei numbers, they will send out self destruction exploding updates, after that they will secretly add the imei numbers to the block list :p
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
My apologies. My patience has worn very thin on this topic.

I said Aer Lingus have not banned the phone and they have not. Your link simply says that they aren't allowing it on flights in and out of America, since the Americans have banned it. Anywhere else on Aer Lingus is fine and Aer Lingus have not banned it. Perhaps you didn't read your link very carefully.

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Not sure I agree with your numbers but your point stands. There's an infinitesimally small chance of a problem and unless there's something extremely weird going on, a decreasing chance since most manufacturing faults manifest themselves early in a products life and if a product works fine for the first few days then probably it will work perfectly for the rest of its serviceable life.

The other point which is relevant is, what are the consequences if your phone does actually turn bad? Our of the 200, how many have caused deaths? How many have caused serious damage to property? How many serious injuries? How many have caused minor injuries? How many have caused minor damage to property? How many have caused no damage whatsoever?

My guess is the numbers go something like 0, 0, 1, 3, 5, 191

in the very very very unlucky circumstance your phone had a problem, the overwhelmingly likely outcome would be that you'd say "Oh look, my phone has got very hot" and you'd put it down somewhere safe. And that would be it. The chance of serious problems are perhaps 10x less likely than your numbers imply.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Posts are getting less frequent. Sadly it can only mean one thing :(
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
Australia has blocked all note7 yesterday. Ringing and arguing with my carrier resulted in being told that Samsung, in cooperation with carriers and telecommunication governing bodies has disabled the phone. Basically, short of changing an imei the note7 in Australia it's dead. I know we keep hearing that changing imei is illegal but I simply want to change mine to another so I can just keep using a phone that I legally own. If anybody can help please pm me.

Thanks
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Very sad news. I sent sammy an email the other day. In it I contrast a vehicle manufacture offering a 4 door saloon in exchange for a 5 door estate with the S7 edge they are offering.

Their reply I quote "I am sorry that we cannot conclude this matter to your complete satisfaction, I hope this confirms our position".

I asked whether I could have a credit note until the next Note is released or gift vouchers showing my patience and commitment but again that was their reply.

I may have some info that you may be interested in and I will try to get it together this weekend.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
Picture this... Toyota has a recall on an issue with a petrol pump and the fuel tank in a Corolla. The end result can be a fuel leak and a possible fire but you don't see them "disabling" a car.

Anyway, I'm ****ty, don't want to return the note7 and have to find a way to get it working again.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] webelieveInGodButDoHeinUs:
please do
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bravolimakilo:
Canada Note 7 user with TELUS.

Phone was working but just checked and it is officially "not registered on a network".

Very sad.

Any other Canadians with same problem?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
I'm starting to think we should all go see a lawyer about a possibility of a class action lawsuit.. In Australia there is no law that allows anybody to compel you to return a recalled product. In fact you are allowed to keep it and seek compensation. What can I expect to get considering nobody asked me do I want to keep using "my note7". Others simply decided for me and just blocked my legally purchased fully working mobile phone.

It makes me mad and want to really stick it to the man.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bravolimakilo:
Hey statikk,

Thank you for your reply.

What is the situation like in Australia? Same thing as here in Canada? Did carriers block the IMEI to brick the phone?

I was kind of hoping that we would have to actually update the phone for it to brick, but I guess not...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
Hi bravolimakilo

Yesterday at 4pm my note7 stopped working... not registered on network.

Rang my carrier and after some arguing I was told that Samsung along with AMTA (Australian Mobile Telecommunications Association) and all mobile carriers banded together to block the phones. Funny that, Australian Census was a nightmare after a $10 million spend on an electronic system yet this note7 s#/ $t blocking happened without a hiccup exactly on the 15th
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bravolimakilo:
Terrible.

Honestly, I think that if LESS people returned their Note 7, they would have never done this, since it would piss off a lot of people. However, since the return rate in Canada and US was about 90% (not sure about Australia), they figured it was okay to piss off the remaining 10% since it's such a small number of us.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
True..

Probably also a small number of us left here in Australia..
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ilordvader:
IF YOU SUPPORT SAMSUNG BEST THING TO DO IS RETURN YOUR PHONE

soon you will have a Galaxy S8 which will be a even better phone :cowboy:

I return both my phones and got the S7 Edge :cool:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] middleearth1010:
Australia government disabling imei s doesn't surprise me. What if grandma who is clueless has note 7 has an emergency??

Let me tell you what Australia also does:

They can care less about pissing people off. Lived there 3 years as an American and I thought my own government was bad until I was deported for an allerged criminal record due to a mugshot on a scam mugshot website which I never was actually charged! (despite my official fbi check showing me clean) . My girlfriend who relied on me for a roof over her head ended up spending all of her families money to get me out cuz I was threatened with nauuru if I contested.

Australia is crooked criminal society and it doesn't surprise me if the not only disable note 7 imeis. How STUPID!!!!!!!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
And if you don't?

I am starting to HATE Samsung, never mind support them. I am so angry about how they have handled this, I may never buy another phone off them ever again.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] kenpaci:
agree, and no more samsung device for me after this, samsung dont care about they fan, and dont care about million profit, i start HATE samsung too!! i ready to jump for other device after this!! i hope sammy die after this and no more crap like this!, for me samsung is dead, no note7 only, all samsung device is dead!!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Unfortunately theres 2 problems in what you say. 1st the exchange they provide won't cover an s8, 2nd it still isn't a like for like replacement and for me not a note.

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You phones imei (part of whats tx when you make a call) just has been added to a list by your network/ carrier in the same way if it had been reported stolen. We call it blacklisted in the UK. Nice ha?

Samsung alone would not have been able to order this it will be joint with the regulator. Ofcom or oftel for example.

I'm interested to know since I can't remember all cases/ incidents whether there was any reports in Canada and Oz.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
In Australia it's AMTA that's enforcing the blocking. I've been ringing arguing with my Telco about it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Was there an incident of N7 imploding in Australia?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] statikk1:
There was with the first batch. Since they were replaced with "safe" versions I've never heard of any going off here. Mine hasn't missed a beat for two months. I've even deliberately caused it to get really hot to a point where it couldn't be held in a hand and absolutely nothing happened.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
I think sadly for you guys that's where the difference lies. Unfortunately it only seems to take one incident/ report for the regulator & samsung to take a different tack.

I was contracting for a company the other day and was told that I needed to file a risk assessment for using a step ladder (the height of two steps) since there was one incident where someone has fallen off.

Crazy but true :confused:

(Btw I do risk assessments anyway to cover the job in its entirety)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Rant snipped, I could talk for ages about kids taking rifles to school..but not for a phone forum.

So grandma gets a $1350 phone, yeah right. A $150 phone is probably sufficient for most elderly.

P.s. IMEI blocked and/or lost the SIM card will always allow emergency calls, it is part of the GSM standard.

112, 000 & for morons who watch too many American shows to realise the world standards aren't US standards will allow even 911 to be called (& redirected to 000).
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] painterceessie:
Sadly I give up my note.

I send it to Samsung.

They give me full refund.

Life goes on.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Haxornator:
Will then, it's just another XDA challenge.

How do we change the imei?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ilordvader:
Good job smart move bro

I got a S7 edge for now

will sell it & get the Galaxy S8 :good:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Well I hope you don't lose even more money by doing that. It is for precisely this reason that I am NOT going for an S7.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] painterceessie:
You lose money for sure.

They offered me s7 edge+128 sd+100 euro cashback.

But here in the netherlands you can buy the edge now on a marketplace site for 450/500 euro.NEW.

The refund is the best thing to do.

But hee everyone do it his way.:good:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
My way is hang on to my Note7 for as long as possible and return it for a refund when a new phone comes out that I am happy to switch to. (No such phone exists in the UK market right now). Right now my Note7 works perfectly so there's no need for me to hand it in.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] faslane:
http://gizmodo.com/verizon-will-brick-the-galaxy-note-7-after-all-1790158297

Every Note will be bricked before and by 2017. Lol. I said it.months ago the minute it forced a plane to land.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Well you were wrong then and you remain wrong. Mine is still working perfectly, charges to 100% just fine and works on all UK networks, which is where I live. And I can take it on some flights too.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] faslane:
Good luck with that. They're shutting them all down. Even Korea. Google is your friend.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I'll accept your apology in January ;)

Seriously, what makes you think this will happen in the UK before the end of December? I really do think you are mistaken.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ccsuk:
Yes good advise I have an edge on ebay its brand new sealed and I can't seem to get £500 for it and they are on samsung website for £640.

Not everyone takes this and other factors into consideration when they post their righteous comments.

Most have SM-G935F at the bottom of their comment we should take a moment to appreciate their loss.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] faslane:
Just the messenger and I didn't out a date on it. Gizmodo and their sources did.

Google it. Dec 27th is the first carrier announcement and all other said by 2017 or early 2017 at the latest. it's all over the place.

http://www.popsci.com/all-major-carriers-will-auto-brick-samsung-galaxy-note-7

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorr...t-bricking-any-remaining-phones/#78e6dad157ae

http://www.popsci.com/all-major-carriers-will-auto-brick-samsung-galaxy-note-7

http://fudzilla.com/news/mobile/42389-all-us-carriers-to-issue-galaxy-note-7-brick-update-after-all

"T-Mobile will be the first to release the software "brick" on December 27th, followed by AT&T and Verizon on January 5th, and Sprint on January 8th. According to this schedule, no one traveling to CES during the first week of January should still be carrying a Galaxy Note 7, as the device is now banned on all US flights and is banned from any air transportation in the country."
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
FAS, holy crap!...longtime no talk bro.

How's things?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] faslane:
Wassup bro?? Yeah I've been away a bit. Just took a break, work, wife etc nothing major....I couldn't root S7 Edge forever so I didn't really need to do much on XDA and even though I can now I tried and the root is horrible so I relocked it (doesn't even trip knox) but it ran sooooo bad even after all the fixes and kernel tweaks) and am leaving it that way (non-rooted) but did run the "U" firmware on it and it's so much faster and the APK1 modem that supports MIMO 4x4 LTE speeds is insane, Mine went from about 10-12 up and down to an average of about 40-50 MBPS and as high as 80-90 in some places in my city lol so I'm staying put right where I am.

How have you been? whatcha running? N5 or ???

Fas
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] imy300:
For what it's worth I've been trying to get Samsung to take my phone back and pay me. They sent me the paperwork back at the start of November i filled it out sent it back and they offered me £730 but no compensation, which i wasn't happy about but will take up with them at some point. As of today i'm still waiting for my money and someone to collect my phone!

They don't seem to want it back. I've had the latest update and stuck at 30% max battery and for some reason android pay and my banking apps think my phone is rooted?

Now i'm looking at trying to roll back the updates so i get 60% battery at least.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] middleearth1010:
You would not call it a "rant" if you were in my shoes. The fact you have absolutely no ability to empathize with others goes to show what kind of person you are. People like you are exactly the reason the world is a mess.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Yeah its weird for me too having an unrootable phone...have a snapdrwgon note 7...well until they kill my imei that is..

Im on my 3rd note 7...got a snapdragon day one...ditched it and got exynos...then the recall happened and I was stupid and returned it for a refund...then got lucky and a friend hooked me up with another snapdragon.

Had a 6P and note 5 before this so lots of development there...well for the 6P anyway.

Not sure whats going to be next honestly the whole note 7 thing has really soured me on samsung...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Get off the booze mate. The fact you lumped all Australian society into your little hate speech shows more about YOU than I think you realise.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] bravolimakilo:
Hey force...

Is your Note 7 still working in Canada? Which carrier are you with?

Mine got bricked and it says "no networks" as of the afternoon yesterday...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Not sure.

I pulled my sim and killed wifi...seems the rogers devices here in toronto are working still
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jopa7:
Still strong here in Portugal (EU) with hydrarom :)

I think they can't block IMEI here in Europe due to legal issues
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Did putting the custom Rom in wipe your carrier APN settings (which typically sit in the CSC)? You may need to manually set.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Yeah that I could see...doesnt always happen but Ive had to set up my APNs here and there over the years.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Depends, some ROM developers put a large global list in, that still may not have all the niche options that some local telcos use, e.g here in Australia for Optus, there are about 4 or 5 APN depending on if pre paid, post paid, data sharing etc, hard for an international developer to keep up with every regional quirk in their settings.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
You seem to be taking a very US-centric view there. All of the links refer ONLY to US carriers.

There's no such announcements here in the UK. Sorry I misunderstood when you said, "Every Note will be bricked before and by 2017. Lol. I said it.months ago the minute it forced a plane to land."

I thought you were meaning you agreed with that, i.e. every Note7 and by 2017. I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that they will all be bricked before the end of the year (which is what "before and by 2017" means, isn't it.

In fact I'll bet you ANY money this proves not to be the case. Note7's will still be fully operational here in the UK on January 1st, I am 100% certain of it since no announcements have yet been made to the contrary and they would definitely give people more notice than that. They've only 2 days ago started trying (and failing) to limit the battery to 30% Vodafone told me that they have "no plans" to introduce any IMEI blocking of Note7s and since the battery update is successfully blocked, I think it's very possible that you will if you choose be able to use a Note7 here in the UK, indefinitely. We will see.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] kenpaci:
right bro..you right, not all country block emei, in asian no any news and planning to blacklist note7 here, this happen in some country..like us, canada, australia..not all worldwide
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] OkayGK:
He has not been on this forum for some time now. His solution was to come back and make threads/replies about note 7 since he had nothing else to do.

Without any understanding of the only reason most people are here is to be/keep using their N7s.

Laugh, you know how everyone at the party would have a great time and there will be that one person with a crappy mood because they are unable to relate to anything. Well, say hello to Fas. :D

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UPDATE. Toronto.

Rogers, FIDO - two note 7s are working Well.