yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxstep:
I WANNA BUY GODDAMN PLAYER!

This is ridiculous. I want to buy software, and apparently I can't. Guys. Please.

Any help in getting in touch with 40th floor would be greatly appreciated.

Btw, what's the difference between phantasm and 40iplay? As i said before, i cant access website using any means, so all i tested was an old v4 beta of 40iplay and i found it to be

simply amazing. I really want to buy either 40iplay or phantasm, depending on differences between them. Anyone?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] flaviopac:
Anyone has a screenshot??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
i am lolling reading that thread, m8s lol.

i realized whole madness.

lol, nope, Canada is enemy of U.S.A(as rest of world is, hm).

so it is player, that exists, but you cannot use it to see, if it is ok software, or not.

we can sip beer and lol.

so sit w/ me and lol too.

try to relax and give us product, website and information, 40th Floor.

users are waiting...:S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KarhU:
Not only users, some cash to be spent too. This product has the best marketing - word of mouth marketing - people are crazy for it, but sales department seems to neglect the demand it created.

This is not a way how to fight piracy, businesses with this approach have to go bankrupt. This seems to be a work of love with huge amount of time invested. If this is the case, we will not be able to buy the player, because it's author does not mind the loss of money or potential customers. 40thFloor - are you developing the players for yourself or for others too?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
author doesn't seem to care 'bout money..

or he's very careful to not make people think in such way..

i am curious about any 40th floor mark things since 40thiplay.

it is unusual project/author(/s), imo.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KarhU:
Yeah, he behaves oddly and the amount of space he has been given at this forum is also unusual (he is quite aggressive but has not been banned, he is advertising his own commercial app, yet his thread was not closed). But anyway, if just a half of what people say about his player is true, then it is simply the best one (un)available on the market.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Blowfish64:
THEORETICALLY, of course, I think circumstances like this are pretty morally ambiguous. Sure you can say stealing or pirating is wrong, but for what reason? What's the end result of such actions in this case? Downloading the "free" version certainly isn't going to have an adverse impact on 40th floor because he refuses to sell it. No profit lost, no damage inflicted on the author. I suppose you could argue from a deontological position that "stealing" is always wrong, but on what do you base the argument? Certainly from a utilitarian perspective there's nothing wrong with it. Actually from a utilitarian perspective it'd be wrong NOT to download it for free if the author refuses to want to make a profit. So what's your arguments pro or con guys? Hopefully you'll flood this thread with so much banter that they'll have to close it like they should have already done from the FIRST POST!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Duron23:
Hi every body, I have searched many of the forums, every body talks about the player, and say it is the best out there, but none has the software, I guess it is just a myth, no actuall software exits, you all you want is to listen to good music on your pocket pc, buy a really good pair of headphone and use any of the music player, it will sound good.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
I have the software but it's nothing special. Phantasm, Zircon, and 40iPlay v6. All worked fine but were nothing out of the ordinary.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 40th Floor:
re: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1852424&postcount=68

From your post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1852424&postcount=68

you may not know that "your" version is a few years old and was hacked up pretty bad to make it sort of work. It's unlikely you use, or have tried, the others (and could still make such ignorant remarks). Oh, psst, it's people like you that give this place its bad name.

Hey, somebody told me I was banned from xda. Guess not. I'll have to work on that.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
What others? I posted the three that I've tried. Is there a newer version of 40iPlay than v6?

Edit: Technically, I'm using 40iPlay v6.1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brunoisa10:
40th Floor : you need to learn how to use a PPC or redesign your application for your big fingers

hey all : I hope you are more easy than him using your programs

LOL haha

I don't need such an application : video is ridiculous

One post not serious into thousand of very interesting posts

I can't stop laughing :D

thank you for this funny slice of time, and go home now :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadephyre:
And it's arrogant thugs like you that piss everyone here off.

I wanted to try your software, really, but since your Site obviously is banning me from downloading the latest trial, i will stick with my BOUGHT copy of PocketPlayer.

You really should think about the way you're trying to do Business here.

The Attitude, the massive IP-Range Blacklist, all of this is driving People away from your Product.

Oh and just because some jerks have posted links to pirated software here or have asked for cracks, doesn't mean that the whole frickin' community here is out to pirate YOUR software or any other software for that matter...

Get a grip Cowboy, and holster that Flamewar-Sidearm.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TacoLoco:
there are better apps out there even for criminal europeans like me :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
Anyone who wants the newest version of 40iplay (v6.1), just PM me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shuhail:
Yes Please Post The Link............
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trondis23:
The IP blockout must be completely random. I am blocked out from http://40th.com at home, but I have access from work. I live in Europe.

Because I could, I downloaded the demo programs (iPlay and Phantasm). I have installed the Phantasm demo. To make it work I had to return a code, including my name, to the developer, and I received a registration code within a few hours. The demo works fine so I can try out all the features, but it quits after a few tracks.

Phantasm is actually a very nice program. Compared to iPlay it has less features, but it is easier to use. It has a more intuitive user interface. It seems like the developer is discontinuing iPlay and prefers Phantasm himself.

The player supports AAC or ALAC (from iTunes), MP3, FLAC, WMA or WMA pro. With AAC/ALAC, Lame-encoded MP3, FLAC or WMA lossless the player supports gapless playback, 100 % perfect according to the manual. Album art is supported if it is embedded in the files. Lyrics is also supported. The program doesn't support web radio stations or DRM files. And it is for audio only.

It is difficult to understand that the developer won't sell the program to everyone that is interested. But that's up to him.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 40th Floor:
Did you fall asleep doing that video? Maybe it's a 5-second piece caught in some loop? But then I can't stand little video in 240by sizes anyway (and no audio to boot). I'd never use that Phantasm thing -- and I don't see who would. This, however, I would:

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(thought I was banned, gotta work on that)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadephyre:
would you please just leave and advertise your software to people who are not on your blacklist ?

Enough of this CENSORED already...

MOD EDIT: EVERYONE CONSIDER THIS A WARNING THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE FOUL LANGUAGE.

~Jimmy
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
But how else can Cornel Huth trick anyone into paying for his ****ware?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mort:
Hey, no need to use this tone. We're (more or less ;) ) civilized people...

I've got no clue how good or bad this software is, and I think it's a rather strange concept to make it easier for potential customers to get a cracked copy in any P2P network than a legal trial version on the company's homepage. But well, if they don't want to sell any copies, it's up to them. There were more than enough hints that the blacklist isn't a good idea. They don't want to change it, so one doesn't need to use it, and they don't need to complain nobody buys it...

But still I really wonder. They spend lots of working hours, seem to be confident with their product (and seemingly even some of the rare customers) - and then do everything not to sell it... :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonichedgehog360:
I am honestly AFRAID to buy anything on 40th Floor's web site. His demo of Phantasm provided sound defeating some audiophile gear. I just find his dark, vague web site rather disturbing. It reminds me of a scam or hacker site. If the software was available on Handango, Mobihand, or PocketGear, I would be MUCH more comfortable to purchase. I know it is a one-man operation, and an incredible accomplishment to have the best audio output than any of the other big-corporation programs. However, I find that 40th Floor is trying desperately to NOT sell his program. Until it is available on a reputable seller, I am NOT purchasing, even if it is the BEST. If 40th Floor could make such a program, he can easily put it on a software vendor's site.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonichedgehog360:
Removed for obvious reasons.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadephyre:
i don't even know why he keeps advertising his Software on a site HE HIMSELF CLAIMS to just have Crackers & Pirates on it.

I don't give a flying f**k if it's the best there is concerning Audio Quality, he's blocking out half the friggin world from his website and calling the rest Pirates & Crackers.

Let him shove it somewhere it hurts...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snachez:
Close this thread. It's embarrassing for us all.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hey Folks,

let this little girl cry.

We got so many great audio players like pocket player, mort player and so on.

If his player were so great he would give it to anyone who wants to purchase.

I'll stay with Pocket Player they want my money and all were happy.

What 40th floor makes is like 40th poor.

and a little bit kidding
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trondis23:
The video doesn't do the program justice, of course. They never do, but especially not here since we are talking about sound. Only the real thing would give people an idea. The video was the best I could do with my tools/knowledge. I thought it was better than a couple of screenshots. I also think it was more fair than the first video in this thread, that just tries to ridicule the program. I don't think that it deserves that. I got a good impression of the program from the demo.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadephyre:
@trondis23

please don't try to inflate his ego, it's already too big for the Board...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 40th Floor:
I must be on the wrong board. ... nope (maybe it's cultural thing since I KNOW most on this board are from eastern Europe - very few from NL or western Europe, let alone N.A. and the good old U.S. of A.). Anyway, PhantasmX is quite a bit better than everything that has come before. A few boring captures? OK, here's one

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
Is Phantom X still vaporware?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wyrm:
You, sir, are an idiot, a boor, and a paranoiac. The latter has been said before, and without a doubt will be said again.

What has Eastern Europe to do with anything? No, please don't answer, no point.

Your linking an image directly to your site (which is, I remind you, inaccessible to most of the world) is just a cherry on top. Sigh...

I would ask the mods to just apply the Hammerzeit! rule, but I guess they are

still

curious and

still

laughing their butts off. As am I, on reflection :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trondis23:
40th Floor doesn't do much to improve his popularity in these forums. He says: "My music player is the best available." Then he blocks "half the world", or whatever it is, from accessing his website so they can check it out. Then he post rude comments in the forums that scares off other possible costumers. It makes you wonder if he does any business at all.

I must confess that I am one of his costumers. The demo convinced me. 40th Floor does know a thing or two about audio engineering, and Phantasm has a few unique features that you won't find elsewhere, at least not on the WM platform. The crossfeed effect you might find in high-end headphone amps. The EQ is also of a high quality, with settings to avoid clipping. And I am hooked on the reverb effect. Then it has perfect gapless playback, low power consumption, a good database system, it supports lyrics and album art, plus it has an attractive and friendly user interface. Despite the impression 40th Floor gives in this forum, he also gives an excellent costumer support. I also own Pocket Player, which is a pretty good player. But for the sound alone Phantasm is my favourite.

So if you are in the market for a new music player, AND have access to the website, I wouldn't hesitate recommending Phantasm. Checking out the demo is free so you can make up your own mind (if you only can get it).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
^^^ Are you using the new Phantom X vaporware or the last version that can be found on megaupload?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trondis23:
I am using version 9.4. PhantasmX is "coming soon".
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonichedgehog360:
Guys, stop it! In all seriousness, if any of you hackers and warez users actually can be serious, Cornel Huth is an excellent programmer. I did so more Google-ing, and boy does he have a record of excellent software. Since the early dos era, he has written some database programs, including Bullet (and it was recommended above many other .NET programs even in 1998 for its speed and quality). He also made some excellent libraries for Creative Sound Blaster. One of his first music players was for MIDI. The list goes on and on. I was so mistaken. Now, I may be purchasing his software soon (have to decide between a better crossfeed amplifier or Phantasm) due to this info.

But, stop the cursing, foul jokes, and rudeness against him. I can see why the man's on the defense. People posting illegal copies of his program, calling it "****ware", vaporware, etc. He shouldn't have been banned. You guys should of. If he is banned for any reason, I will post a list of all the people who have done wrong things against him, with evidence. In summary, give respect to this legendary programmer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
MOD EDIT: tnyynt: CENSORED! Watch your language! First and last warning!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JimmyMcGee:
OK Consider this EVERYONES First And LAST Warning. BE NICE, or I'm shutting this thread down and possibly handing out bans.

Thank you now back to the topic at hand.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
Phantasm X still = vaporware
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotrod101:
Well I also couldn't test the program to see how excellent it is (as advertised), so I rate this program at zero stars out of 5 - Too bad. Well, I had fun reading this thread, at least that is something. I'm not going to let myself get all frustrated because I can't check out yet another audio program for my device. I have four excellent ones already installed and all work really really well and the sound quality is excellent for all. (I keep four installed because I like them all and each have unique features that I love) I really don't know how this program (that I can't even test) will be any better than what I am already using, so maybe I should just say thanks for not letting me put your program onto my device wasting valuable storage space. I will just use that space to place a 20 minute silent audio file. It's probably a much better use of storage space anyways.:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trondis23:
The definition of waporware is, according to Wikipedia: "Vaporware is a somewhat derogatory term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar software/hardware product..... Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware."

The last version of Phantasm, 9.4, was released in July. I don't remember when he took it down from the web-site - I think it was at the beginning of August. So I think that we should show a little patience here. If you are very eager he probably might sell you version 9.4. It works very well for me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mort:
Oh please... why don't you (all) give it a rest?

I don't know why a seemlingly good programmer (at least according to some of the few people who were able to test his player) get so paranoid of illegal copies that he makes it much more easy to get those instead of a legal copy. (Well, at least he's in good company with music and video industry. I just say DRM. But even that's more logical and less annoying than blocking potential buyers completely...) However, that's the case, he doesn't want to change it, so try to get it by any means or leave it.

I do believe there will be Phantasm X, at least if his paranoia doesn't get so worse he concludes the best copy protection is not to release the program at all. But who cares if it's almost impossible to get it? (Well except for those who wait to get it from a warez site...)

So, why brawl about bridges (almost) nobody will reach?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 40th Floor:
I agree. It is pretty bad. Therefore, I am making it policy: US customers only, forever, no exceptions. If you see what I see every day, you'd know why. Close the thread. It's pathetic.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Furbious:
Agreed on the pathetic comment, but only if its referring to yourself.

Makes me wonder why you bothered in the first place - someone who comes to crow about their product and then insults their customer base obviously needs to go and see their doctor about therapy, or perhaps grow up.

Piracy is part of the industry, you just need to make sure that the honest ones really do think your product is value for money.

Thanks for tarring us all with the same brush, I'm sure that the people who were going to pay for it are now pirating it as we speak. That lack of money in your bank account sure showed them!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonichedgehog360:
Agreed. 40th, you haven't posted on Brighthand much about your products for years. There are plenty of us "Americanos" over there. You're sure to drum up much more business than at this mainly European forum.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Furbious:
Of course, because there are no American pirates at all :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
I already have v9.4 as well as the latest version of 40iplay before it was discontinued.

Phantom X still = vaporware
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
OMG. Reading this whole thread.

I ROFL'd irl.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JimmyMcGee:
Thread Closed As Requested.

Thank you and have a good day.
[XDA Assist] Lhamafanfromxda:
I have an android kitkat 4.4 phone, i'm trying to install an app called sapphire launcher that requires android 5.0 buf it always says "there was a problem parsing the package" i tried some methods i saw on youtube, and a xposed module called xinstaller, market helper did not work as well, there is any other way?
[Samsung Galaxy J7 Guides, News, & Discussion] CoffeeNAndroid:
Just got its got a new security feature ive never even heard of in my life.
[Samsung Galaxy J7 Guides, News, & Discussion] CoffeeNAndroid:
A little more info
[Samsung Galaxy J7 Guides, News, & Discussion] weezywatts:
where can i get such
[Windows RT General] Sad_surface:
Two years ago when windows 8.1 updated rolled out (I think) my windows surface rt proceeded to update, and got stuck. By stuck I mean the surface splash was on the screen with a never ending cycle of the ring spinning. The surface discharged before presumed update could finish. Upon recharge and restart the surface splash appeared and nothing else. At the time I was out of the country for a long period of time so returning wasn't an option. Two years later it's been collected out of a closet free of warranty and still the same problem. I have tried boot from USB while holding volume down. Have reset using volume up, but nothing seems to work. Any help would be appreciated. I have even converted the boot files into .iso form to try and boot in that way, nothing seems to work. One interesting point is that some USBs light upon boot for a flash and then cut off, but others won't even light up initially. :crying: