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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Interesting. They called me again this morning and said would I confirm a few security details, to which I replied "no, because you could be anybody". The guy just said "Ok, thanks very much, goodbye".

If I do end up speaking to them, I am not going to be even slightly defensive mind you. I will say "so are you going to offer me a discounted S8 if I return my Note7? And if not, what other incentives are you offering?". I am not committing any crime by keeping it, so if they REALLY want it back, then the ball is in their court.

By the way, I know you are trying to be helpful, but you are not entirely correct about consumer rights. The whole area is pretty complicated with various changes in legislation over the past 15 years. But in short, your rights (still) extend for 6 years (not 1 year) but you have no automatic right to return something within 1 year. Within 6 months, it's more straightforward but after 6 months, it gets complicated, and even MORE complicated in the case of a mobile phone where there are multiple parties involved - the manufacturer, the network provider, the retailer and the customer.

There is a legal requirement for the seller to provide goods that are of satisfactory quality at the time they were sold, and after 6 months it's down to the customer to demonstrate that they were not. If you can show that, and/or the seller accepts the case, then you are entitled to a repair or compensation, not to a full refund.

And there is no automatic right to a warranty of any kind. Manufacturers don't even have to offer one.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] xxxMJTxxx:
Ok,

I understand, thanks for correcting me.

What I learned is that product warranties in most of cases are a bit of illusion and they do exist only on paper and give you feeling that you have something just in case but when case came to daylight you are left with nothing.

Because of that I do not buy goods with warranty and when something break down I usually repair it myself.

If I cannot repair it I buy another one and return it after one week but with deleted inside.

They look at it they check it and always accept it. So I know whatever I buy they will take it back anyway.

M
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
To be fair, I think most warranties are pretty good. The law doesn't require manufacturers to offer one, but it does require that if they do offer one, the terms of it must be clear and easy to understand and they MUST honour it. I've never had a problem getting something repaired or replaced under warranty to be honest.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Egyptmex:
Seeking advice after dodging OTA updates

Hello everyone,

I am brand new here and apologize in advance if my answer is buried somewhere on this site.

I have a replacement Verizon Note 7 (green battery icon, still charges to 100%, holds charge without cable) that keeps wanting me to install an OTA update from time to time. I have avoided the installation by pressing the home button to make the message go away. It has no SIM card because Verizon blocked my number and I am giving my business to a better carrier, IMHO.

My question is will a simple factory reset allow my phone to forget the somewhat pending OTA update(s)?

Your advice is appreciated sincerely,

"Note8Wait"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Sorry I cannot help answer your question, but I hope you won't mind me asking another related question on your thread? Perhaps if anyone can answer, it may be relevant.

Does anyone know whether once issued, OTA updates are out there *forever*? Or can you miss them? I am not talking about Note7's or even about Samsung in general. Just about OTA updates. If you have a phone and it prompts you for an update and you avoid it, will there come a time when that update is no longer being pushed?

Where I am going with this is, is there a future time when I can uninstall Package Disabler Pro? Or will I get the update the moment I uninstall it? I'd like to uninstall it really, but am worried I will wreck my phone the moment I do that.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] zaibjan:
Using my note7 that one is exynos f model and I have rooted it and have installed hydra Rom now using it without any problems
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
No.....the OTA will still keep popping up

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

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Do not uninstall that

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
OK thanks. Since I want my VR back, I think I am going to swap my Note7 for an S8 in April anyway. I am very pleased I've hung onto it though, so that this is an easy swap. Had I been locked in to a 2 year contract on a S7 Edge, the S8 upgrade would not be an option.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Ill be doing the same but only because the Ahole carriers here in canada blocked all our note 7s from the networks...pricks.

Sucks because mines still able to charge to 100% to.....stupid snapdragon model...if it was exynos it would still work on the networks probably
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] RaymondPJR:
If you are in the states I see no reason why you can't get all your money back. There is no expiration date on this recall. I'm sure there will be blow-back, but I intend to return mine when the Note 8 becomes available for a complete refund! I don't know what to do with my VR as I'm not sure if newer phones will fit it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] marauderrt10:
What carrier is blocking the Imeis? My note 7 still works fine on T-Mobile.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
I'm in the UK, but there is ZERO doubt and I will DEFINITELY be able to get all my money back.

All Note7's here in the UK are prevented from charging now, so all I have to do is reset my phone, take it back and say "this thing you sold me does not work". That provides me with full protection under EU law, recall or no recall.

I have 6 years to take it back, since UK law requires for up to 6 years after purchase, you can claim if the goods were not of "satisfactory quality" at the time of sale. Since Samsung have already admitted that the Note7 is not of satisfactory quality, then it's a bit of slam dunk.

I am going to cancel my contract, get my money back and get an S8 in April. Although it pains me greatly to be giving Samsung my business, to be honest. If there was a comparably good phone from ANY other manufacturer, I'd buy that instead.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] xxxMJTxxx:
Mine exynos on Vodafone UK still working sweet!

Who else?

Anyone?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Mine too. I'm on Vodafone. I posted above saying they were blocked. I've since edited it, since I realise I was having complete brain failure!!??!?!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] wolf-pack:
No need to give up your Note 7 is you just want to use GearVR.

Install custom recovery, root, then install custom rom like Hydra.

All done. With Hydra your Note claims to be S7Edge, and Oculus and GearVR will work fine.

If you prefer stock rom with root, or other custom rom, just edit the build.prop to fake your device model.

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If you factory reset your phone, the pending update is definitely gone.

BUT it will come back if you connect your device to internet (Wifi/mobile data) and don't protect you Note against this.

A side effect of factory reset is that all protection measure you've done in the past (like package disablers, ADB script, firewall..) are gone too and you've to re-protect your Note against the updates.

If your phone model is Verizon you can simply do this by hiding the update packages with ADB.

Just pm me, if you like this, we've have a script that automatically will do this for you. Of course, it's free :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] zaibjan:
I m using my note7 that is exynos one f model single SIM have used twrp and flash away hydra Rom with hydra kernel 100 percent battery and there is no issues like heating or anything and definately will not give it back as g really like it .
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tiguy99:
Is there a way to go to flash a zip that has all these protective apps auto install and activate?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] force70:
Not that I know of.

Your better off doing all of it manually anyway. Anyone can flash a zip and of course then learns nothing in doing so.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Chippy_boy:
Thanks mate, I appreciate the advice and did not realise Hydra would fix it.

However, currently I use two features of my Note7 almost daily, the secure folder using iris scanning and Android Pay. It would be a real pain if I could not longer use either of these. Am I right in thinking that I would lose both if I went down the Hydra route? I think I'd also lose Android pay at least (maybe both) if I rooted as well, wouldn't I?

Maybe I am wrong, but I think perhaps my choice is to keep AP and secure folder, and lose GearVR, or go GearVR and lose the first two?

Or go S8, and get all three features, but lose the pen... which I also use. The vanilla Note7 was indeed my perfect phone and I still cannot find anything to replace it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Egyptmex:
Sans SIM, Successful Hard Factory Reset on Note 7

After backing up my Note 7 and removing the SIM card, I am pleased to report that the dreaded OTA update I successfully dodged for months when I was a Verizon customer no longer appears after a hard reset (simultaneous press of Home, Power, and Volume Up buttons and then choosing factory reset from menu)!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Up until the time their note 7 burst into flame those owners had zero problems either. By the law of averages someones luck is going to run out and then the crap will hit the fan. I wished Samsung had made the recall official. That would have been best for them, present and future owners.

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Bboy486:
Just curious, with the waterproof screen you still added a screen protector? Are you concerned about breaking the screen.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] NIKKOTUASON:
Last night I came to a conclusion that I will be keeping my current unit as Samsung Canada will only exchange it for a W8 version which I know is understandable since we're in Canada but I don't want to get ripped off. I've been using my device vigorously from keeping it plugged into fast charging for 17+ hours/overnight while installing different ROMs and it's still running. I'm planning to keep this unit for at least 2 years. I can say I can sleep well at night now :cool:.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Angus66:
What is a W8 version? :confused:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] electricallew:
My note 7 heats up sporadically. I gets very hot sometimes. Once i pulled it out of my pocket and called home. Within 25 seconds it got very hot against my cheek. It felt as if it would burn my skin if I kept using it. I powered off right then and there. I still use it every day though.

I called Samsung too. The rep told me to turn off fast charge, and only charge to 85- 90%. That was before the latest recall info. Now I charge only when awake.

On a side note, I bought the Note 7 to replace my S5 that became a pretty brick. I plugged it in to top off the charge. When I unplugged it later it was burning hot. Much hotter than anything I had experience flashing. It never booted again. Hmmmmm. I hope this is not a trend...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] javier24:
I'm using a dual sim Note 7 manufactured in Vietnam. I have no idea what battery this beauty is packing but I'm not having issues at all with the phone. 32C to 37C, running really cool with the exynos processor and I'm planning on keeping mine since Samsung will not replace mine in Spain for a dual sim, they replace units for local standard one sim tray phones and I don't want that.

I love the phone and I will keep it! Good luck everyone!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Kanudo17:
Mate, It is an official Recall. There are some wrong understanding in consumers about recall and withdrawals. It is understandable that Govt. authorities never take interest in educating people about differences and media should play their part to communicate rather than splashing on Brand name. Recall is very different to withdrawal and once officially announced which Samsung has done (unless your country has poor controls of carrier and other authorities).

With recall, you are pretty much asked to stop using it due to safety issue and any decision afterwards to use it or burning your car or yourself is at your discrete. Unlike in withdrawal, keep it running until issue shows up and bothers.

Any company that does a recall is a big hats off to me as they have courage and they respect their consumer unlike few who try to throw things under the rug. Many big companies have done it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Success100:
my buddies has that weird battery problem where one minute its 60% the next time you pick the phone up its 90% etc. I told him he better be careful.

Mine I've had since launch day with no problems. Ive two instances where the phone got like HOT AS HELL but I think something was stuck running in the background. But thats happened occasionally with every android phone I've had. I also don't leave mine on the charger any longer than necessary. my guy at tmobile told me sammy says they should start getting replacements this upcoming week.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Cynamn63:
I am still using my Note 7 as well. I don't leave it charging unattended, especially at night when I am sleeping. If I feel it get a little warm, I remove my case for a little while but overall, its been running like a champ. I agree....BEST smartphone I have ever owned. Hoping to get my replacement on Wednesday here in Denton, Texas.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] stondec100:
Using my SM-N930FD. It works like a charm.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drum747:
I was going to stick with it until replacements are available but instead got a S7 edge and a free Gear VR, then back when replacements come.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Fishdj:
Still waiting for Samsung US to shine light upon my FD
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Yeah, not sure what it being waterproof has to do with a screen protector, I use screen protectors to keep my screen from scratches and dings. A screen protector isn't going to stop the screen from breaks or cracks, nore does it do anything to waterproof a phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] probablecauzdnb:
i am still using mine. doesn't make sense to get a loaner phone now. i really don't want to get a new note 7 even when they are available. not a fan at all of the edge screen at all. sound quality sucks and battery life isn't that great either. i am really hoping on the lg v20 being available before the end of the month so i can just get one of those.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] xircoms:
Do you guys really think this fellow Jonathan Strobel is right? I mean how on earth will the phone burn in his pocket if the problem exits while charging the fone? No offense to anyone here OR those who may have suffered. Yes the fone has this issue of batteries as per sammy, but u guys really think all the 2.5 millions sets have the same problem? OR is it just sammy is cornered by the SOLD media? Just imagine media speculation of 6 years old boy & note 7. Comments are welcome please
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
What makes you think it only happens while charging? Both Samsung and the CSPC have said otherwise.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
For those outside the U.S., one of our great freedoms is the ability for anyone to sue anyone over anything. Did anyone here not think that opportunists and ambulance chasing personal injury attorneys would be all over the chance to sue a multi-billion dollar company who admitted to distributing a flawed product? As for Jonathon Strobel, I call opportunist. Looking at phones that shorted out they all look like the event happened similarly. A short occurs in the battery, they overheat rapidly, and then its over quickly. I find it hard to believe if that were to occur while a Note7 was in someone's pocket they wouldn't have enough warning as the event began to take it out and throw it on the ground.

There are two types of people in this thread. Those that look at every Note7 as a ticking time bomb that could take down houses and kill or maim their owners. Others view all these aggrandized and dramatized reports with a jaundiced eye. Initially there were 30ish incidents, then there were 90ish incidents in the U.S. With 1M phones at risk I believe the statistical average of this occurring being .01% as claimed is true (or close to it). It's still odd that on an enthusiast site like XDA no one here has had this occur to them. That kind of pokes holes in the "ticking time bomb" and "they could all explode" theory. A couple of people here reported erratic charging or inaccurate battery level reporting. To me that sounds like the beginning of a problem. If my phone did that I'd stop using it.

As for charging vs. not charging no one here knows and I haven't seen enough credible information to draw a conclusion. Samsung Korea limiting charging to 60% via s/w is a clue though.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
That's during just a couple of weeks, not during the entire lifetime of the phone.

Why is it odd? Are there more than 10,000 Note 7 owners on this site?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
You realize the "lifetime of the phone" has only been "a couple of weeks."

It's not odd to me because I believe that somewhere around .01% have a defective battery cell. To the OMG! crowd it's odd because some have said 1:1,000 have the defect. Using your math and their's 10 XDA'rs should have had their phone's "explode" and none have.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gav6363:
Hi yes im still using mine and nothing is wrong. There is only 40 cases of the battery going and none of them in the uk.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
No, I'm referring to how long the phones will typically last--more like a couple of years. The question is, how many of the phones will catch fire over that period of time?

Even with 10,000 Note 7 owners on XDA, it wouldn't be especially odd. And as far as I know, the actual number here is way, way less than that. Is there any information to the contrary?

Do we know that there are even 1,000 Note 7 owners using this site?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] GibMcFragger:
The Canadian model. :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
I have no idea. You're the one picking numbers. As for when a battery cell could short, from what I've read, the problem's either there or not. If it's there it's not latent, it's going to happen. That's a big YMMV as there are distinctly different views being expressed here with absolutely no subjective data to draw from. In other words we're all looking at the exact same second and third hand information and forming very different opinions. And all opinions, including mine, are just that.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
I'm just picking the numbers that would need to be true for your conclusions to follow,

and asking whether there's any evidence for those numbers. We agree there is not.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hiya. Thats very black and white. I fall into neither of your categorisations.

Samsung Korea would NOT have taken the course of action they did IF there was not a problem. I admire Samsung Korea for their initial action, statement and unofficial recall.

Local Samsung importers have been very difficult with how they have behaved in certain countries. Samsung Korea should have made the recall official from day one.

There certainly are, as you write, those who have taken advantage of this situation.

My point of concern is not a knee jerk reaction. My reaction is to do what Samsung requested being to return the mobile to avoid a possible problem.

WE differ in that I accept we are all dependent on one another and have to live together. If I lived on my own desert island I would have kept my Note 7 and like you used it until I could get another one. I have family, neighbours, I travel, to that end I have responsibilities to those around me.

Let me ask you this, how would you feel if tonight your mobile went pop and not only burned your home but your neighbours in your apartment building?

How would you feel sitting at 11,000M and having the person next to you use the note 7 while on portable battery charge, while your kids where seated next to you?

Sure, I have written here myself, that one is more likely to be struck by lightening but I refuse to gamble with OTHERS lives. WHY on earth would I take such a risk now I know there is a risk?

1.5 million in circulation and a tiny tiny % have had a problem. What concerns me greatly is what arn't Samsung telling us, not what they have! Samsung would certainly not have lost billions over 36 mobiles..........

I do see your point and to a degree agree with most of your posts. On this occasion I just can't agree either of us have the right to gamble with other peoples health. :highfive:

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Angus66:
I personally had that happen to my Note 7 and it was enough for me to stop using mine...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Sensible reaction. :good:

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] insom81:
I have continued to use mine, however today I had a bit of a scare - I had the boot loop issue and ended up with the phone, seemingly, incapable of powering down.

The phone was starting to heat up. Cue me frantically taking the case off, s pen out and placing it on a pizza stone in the kitchen.

Seems to be a false alarm as it is behaving normally again now, however I am due for my exchange (tomorrow hopefully) so fingers crossed it is fine until then.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] KokoFC0217:
Using Note 7

I have keep using my Note 7 even that Samsung says not to. I have the cordless charger and i only charge the phone when is as low as 20% and when i wake up in the morning is full charge. I use my phone at all time at work and do my notes and read emails without any issues or over heating. I also use on my phone CM security that every time I charge my phone this will control and clean all trash files or cookies and charge mode is less.

I do believe that the fire on devices is cause because phones are over charge, is like any electronic device that you keep plug and you will feel hot on the back.

I have same situation with my Ipad, if i used it charging and am playing or watching TV i can feel the heat on back.

All this situations is because over charging the phone.

all works fine.. if we got them replace well fine no more concerns, but we still not going to be able to use the phones on Planes if you travel for preventive actions.

life is good.

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Probably he was using a charger on his pocket, now with Adobe illustrator you can do anything to trick the vision of customers.

with the launch of iphone 7 and then this situation with note 7 is just something kind of crazy.

I have my note 7 and I use it at all time like my note 5 and i feel the same, when i touch the back more you use the phone obviously phone will get hot. same happen with my ipad.

even the iphone 6 got on fired in a plane last year. from a production of millions phones always you get couple of units that will not get through QA inspection and those are one of them....
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] osman006:
Yes i am still using without any problem

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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] JawjaBill:
I am still using mine. It operates flawlessly. I only charge it wirelessly. I am not that concerned but will swap it out when I can.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] SptMogul:
when is the last day to return the note 7? or to get the replacement?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] JSK0703:
I used mine up until the day that AT&T offered a replacement Note7. Had no issues with my original.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
Still waiting for Sprint to ship my replacement and still using my original Note 7. It continues to be flawless.