yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Keep in mind that the only partitions that TWRP can wipe ( or clean, format )

are:

Dalvik /Art Cache

Cahe

Data

Internal Storage

System

Micro SDCard

It can not wipe /Boot or format. But you can delete files using TWRP. (correction was made)
[TouchPad Development] middle_road:
you might not be able to wipe it, but it appears that you can delete files when booted to TWRP and using file manager.

Just mount it and go...
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Correct you can use TWRP to delete files under the boot partition. I tried it before with no luck, but now I did it differently by mounting first.

In the Menu touch MOUNT , select Boot then go back to the menu, touch Advance, touch File manager, select boot and all the files will show and you can delete it.

Thanks for the tip! you always learn by exchanging brain waves!
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Using Rom Toolbox Lite, I had a look at my /boot volume and mine is pretty much identical to yours. It looks like your uImage.twrp is slightly larger than the one I am using which is Flintman's smaller 3.0.2.0 version and I still have 1.9mb of space available. The screenshot you attached shows TWRP is 8.83mb and mine is 7.82mb. Are you sure you are using the smaller version? That could be the reason your install is failing. I would move the uImage.TPTB out of /boot to a safe location and try the install again. If it is successful, then move the uImage.TPTB back to /boot.

NT
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
That's how I have been doing to delete file and changing permissions if needed for phone and tablet.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Any good file browser like Rom Toolbox Lite or Root Explorer will allow you to manage files in any location. Using Root Explorer, when in a protected/locked folder, it shows at the top "Mount R/W". Tap that and that allows you to modify that protected area. When done it now says "Mount R/O" at the top. Tap that and the folder is now "Read Only" again. With Rom Toolbox Lite, it can modify any protected folder without any additional actions required.

NT
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Yes I use ES file explorer for that. Sometimes, I copy file from your download to system, and it needs proper permissions to show up correctly, so I find it useful doing file manipulation in recovery..
[TouchPad Development] AlwaysLucky:
I'm actually really surprised how many people posting in this thread that never make it down to Post 3 LOL :eek: Oh wellz, I tried :)
[TouchPad Development] HuXu77:
What was the difference? What did you do different from the previous attempts that made it work? I am currently having the same issue.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Just offering up an alternative.

NT
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
So this slowness issue seems related to the devices lack of more RAM I am assuming? Doing something like running more than one app especially if Firefox is one of them.....I have some some severe lag. I don't have zRam on. KSM is on, but it acts exactly what a Windows 98SE box with 64 megs of ram would do if you tried to run something like Photoshop 5 on it. Mad effing swap from hell chewing away on the hard disk for the rest of the session till a reboot.

If I quit the browser it usually goes away fairly quickly. Perhaps it is another issue due to an app I have installed but it seems all three tablets I am running do it for the last 15 or 20 flashes of nightlies.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
We are looking into this issue, checking out what other msm8660 devices are doing to stay in the game. I'm trying to adapt changes from one of my other 8660 devices but we are getting severe power drain issues with bulk changes. So we started going piece by piece to see what works and what causes more headache. Thank you for the feedback, if you want there is an option in developer options which shows cpu usage, it may shed some insight if its an app causing issues.
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
I can confirm the browser slowness. Every time I open and try to use a browser like chrome, Firefox or Dolphin, the tablet will become so slow that it's unusable and also the system UI (the notification bar and navigation bar) would close and restart automatically. Using other apps than browsers seems ok speedwise.
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I really do not understand where everyone is complaining about the tablet been slow. For me is as fast or faster than the original WebOS . If you check the app RAM usage, no app is going to need 300 Megabytes, these are simple Android Apps not desktop programs. There is usually 500 Megabytes of RAM free for apps to use. You can tweak and disable a lot of background process and data collection. Get a firewall and block access to the internet of services and Apps , this is a tablet not a smartphone. You can optimize the speed of the CPU to 1836MHz and the GPU to 320Mhz with shumash kernel, get a Kernel optimizer and tweak it to your best use (is an open tablet with root access! you can not brick it no matter what you do to it) The options are endless and the most up to date ROM are out there. But is impossible to optimize the tablet for optimal speed as the user has different needs and will use it in many different ways. The fun about this tablet is that is 100 % open, but you need to do your research and get to know Android, all the information is out there!
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
No one is asking or expecting you to understand if you can not read.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
I know it sounds conspiratorial, but it seems to be that compared to the way the tablets ran on the earlier versions of the 7.1 ROM that it might be possible that Google has added something to the code to intentionally slow older less capable devices to try to thwart the efforts of dev teams like ours here in the hopes of getting people wishing for and purchasing new devices? Or is the OS just getting bloated at this point? Seems like the change was quite drastic starting around the 1st of the year and the number of older devices getting good development is large as people like to continue to keep using their devices but get on the new OS if possible. Just a thought of something to look out for as you guys scour the code for evil.

OR..........MAYBE IT'S DONALD TRUMPS FAULT!

8)

Kudos devs! Thanks much.
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Anything is possible, but you have to keep something in mind. No company will create a product for free there is always a catch and for google is your information, you become another web page that they need to track to pass on your habits to a merchant. I have found that with the newer Roms the speed and response has increase. The developer community have learn and now they are masters! With all the tools out there and the options, we the user have more power on our side. This is not a tablet for a regular user that wants everything from Google at blazing fast speed, but for a user that takes the time to learn and be in full control

Every living cell on this planet will fight for its own interest and that is to survive! is the universal law of the Universe!
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
I kind of thought the Universal Law of the Universe was.......God's Truth of Love being the ultimate necessity for man to live in peace? Cause afterall, without God's Love men (used generically please don't genderbash me!) will:

- Fight

- Cheat

- Steal

- Neglect

- Deceive

In fact I would have to bet that MOST of the types of people that engage in this technical exercise of open source ROM development are most likely operating from a perspective of God's Love by sharing their skills with all of us!

And I have to agree that the 7.1 ROM INITIALLY showed a good performance bump over the 6.0.1 that Flintman had cooked up. But as I mentioned the change was sudden right around the first of the year where I started having intermittent close to debilitating performance issues. That is what makes me think about it possibly being some sort of tooling to rid the market of lots of older devices. Anyways thanks Dev's sorry for the off topic God Squad comment but I will admit that without God's Love and Truth I pretty much quickly degenerate to the natural state of being the ASSHOLE THAT I AM! HAH! And being an asshole is never a good thing hehehehe.

Lip Lip Lip
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Everyone is entitle to their own principles and nobody has the power to judge, but respect. We are in the same planet and the ones in this topic owns the same tablet, we should embrace everyone's ideology and analyzed all possible solutions to resolve any issues. The diversity of ideas is the key to unlock the next step for progress and evolution!

Back to the evolution of the Hp Touchpad with the Evervolv ROM:

In the last two nightly builds you can now record video with the stock camera and play it back in the gallery. This was not possible before and MX player was need it for playbacks.

Thanks to everyone at the Evervolv Team and the Devs-Base communnity!
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
I'm running Jan 26 version of the ROM. It has z-ram feature. You might want to use it to see if it helps to improve performance. I speciffy 150MB for disksize using kernel adiutor. It is under the section kernel-virtual memory. The chrome performance is OK for me. I mentioned some other parms I use in my earlier post.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Just to clarify for the devs, individual apps still work just fine. It is if I try to do too much with the Tablet at one time....like leave my e-mail program set to 1000 message scroll back with K9 in the background and then try to run Firefox with a few tabs I'll probably see an "out to lunch" scenario present itself soon after with the steps necessary to quit Firefox, to resolve the situation, taking QUITE a while to ferret themselves out the resources necessary to even register the click of the Recent Apps button.....
[TouchPad Development] rfoster2009:
I agree, my touchpad has been behaving similarly, especially over the last week or 2 worth of nightlies.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
So I flashed the 01-28-2017 earlier when i saw it available on one of the tablets and things seem improved. I noticed in the changelog that it said REMOVE ZRAM TOGGLE. Does that mean that it is on by default now or proved to be too buggy to be useful?
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
My understanding is zram is off by default. I guess we just need to try it out and see if it helps for the apps that we use.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
the option in the toolbox was for pre lollipop method of handling zram, post lollipop zram handling is being worked out right now since it's all handled in the ramdisk
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
This 1-28-2016 seems to have kicked the lag bug outta the OS. WHUD JOO PEOPLE DO!?!?!?

8)

Seems to be streamlined and capable again. SCHWING!

AMORE!

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Yeah this 1-28 seems to be night and day. I have my e-mail up. Hit a link firefox is up. Streaming radio station KSFO app. ES File Explorer up. Way responsive still. Perhaps just having the zram available was causing it? Kernel bug? Anyways seems solved to me for the time being hehehe.

Thanks devs. Evervolv still the preferred recipient of a donation?
[TouchPad Development] X-Nemesis:
Experiencing the problem of the onscreen home and switch apps buttons not registering touches. The back buttons works.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Flipping it off and back on works to get out of that I am assuming? As in sleep / wake up re-swipe to desktop / home screen? I think I saw that twice so far. Been using the 1-28 quite a bit since it came out yesterday. Seems way fixed compared to the last couple weeks.
[TouchPad Development] X-Nemesis:
Yep, tried that but still having the same problem. Only the back key works.
[TouchPad Development] middle_road:
OK, here it is - The Definitive Method to get the HPTP running EV7.1.1 to behave!

Applies to r01-17 Nightlie.

Night before last my Better Half was under the weather and wanted to lie in bed and surf.

I gave her one of the TP's running the above. She used it for over three hours WITHOUT a single complaint or hiccup.

Nary a freeze, lock up or an App crashing.

I went to bed, took it over and the bloody thing started acting up, like a spoiled brat.

Not one problem while she was using it for hours. I take it over and it goes wankie. -Go Figure....
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Hmmmm you have to do a reset of the OS entirely to get out of that?

You know I have seen some firmware issues present themselves on these tablets occasionally where weird problems like that manifest themselves and the battery disconnect thing someone pointed out has helped me reset those states.

Desktop PC's sometimes gets bugs in them that will stay in the ram between boots or in the BIOS Non volatile settings section and won't clear unless your turn the power supply off or unplug it from the wall and drain the caps.

I am surmizing that this is why the engineers at HP included this hard off mode because it actually disconnects the device from power to achieve the off state, or at least that is what the user that informed people of this "battery disconnect" mode described. It was a couple few months ago here on the XDA thread before this devs base area came about

Try this:

hold power button and tap home button 15 times or so and you will see the tablet go off hard. Like BANG right off. Power it up again and see if that bug of loosing your software home screen and app switch button goes away.

I cleared the one tablet from constantly having digitizer failures with a hard battery disconnect power off. It was manifesting the bug where you loose touch control but the home button still works, which has been a common bug in this ROM since Android 6 Evervolv FLintman. but this particular tablet was doing it like WAY too often and the other two were only manifesting the loss of digitizer bug occasionally.

Since I did the hard power off battery disconnect on that tablet, the digitizer bug manifests itself only occasionally on that tablet now like on all the rest.

Have you done a reset of the entire OS yet and did the bug persist through that OS reset?
[TouchPad Development] X-Nemesis:
Did the hard reset, but no luck.

Reset of the entire OS meaning wiping and doing a clean re-install? If so then yes, I've done that as well.
[TouchPad Development] Razor512:
Does anyone know a way to get the google calendar app to work? keeps crashing as soon as I try to launch it (did a complete fresh install). Currently using the 1/28/17 nightly build.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
what version of gapps did you install, google calendar is working fine on evervolv with the oneplus3. i personally use opengapps nano, then install all my google apps from the playstore.
[TouchPad Development] Razor512:
I ended up installing the pico build linked on the first page of this thread.

I will do a full system wipe and try the nano build.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
I just meant rebooting the tablet......so rebooting the tablet does not restore the Home and App-switch softbuttons?

You might want to run JCSullins TPTOOLBOX V42 and run the Repair Android Volumes perhaps? Not sure. That seems very odd to me.
[TouchPad Development] X-Nemesis:
To clarify, I can see the actual onscreen softbuttons, but they don't respond to touch. Only the backspace button does.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
pico gapps are missing some stuff you cant get from the playstore, thats why i dont use them.
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Do a simple test, go to setting then toolbox and disable the App, then reboot. Try it if still does not work then enable the toolbox. Is a simple test, then report back if you can.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
did you recently install a theme with substratum? if so reboot the tablet. It seems to happen on op3 as well from time to time.

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you do realize there is a setting inside our toolbox to disable all features?
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Yes that is the setting that I was referring to, to disabled it after you touch the app from setting menu. Is all the way at the bottom
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
sorry, i misread you comment
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I should have specified to do it withing the ToolBox settings, as you can disable APP by opening the Apps settings. It is confusing.

But if the user install a theme or and App for themes, then it will help if the user mention it, because the ROM is solid GOLD good.
[TouchPad Development] middle_road:
Just flashed r01-29, booted and then booted back into recovery to flash OpenGApps Nano.

Calendar came up but it won't accept the account that the tablet has already. It wants a different account. Sounds like a google problem to me.

At least it came up.

I'm going to steer clear of Pico since you mentioned Nano. I had been using 'Mini' for quite awhile ...

_dan
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
sounds like a permission issue. flash gapps right after flashing evervolv (dont reboot inbetween), otherwise default permissions are not set correctly.
[TouchPad Development] middle_road:
Well crud, I thought I had read somewhere, sometime ago that it was best to reboot between flashing the ROM and GApps.

Thanks for the headsup. Been in the habit of doing them separately, wish I could remember why I was doing it that way.

I might be time to start over fresh on this device (#Two).

EDIT: Just flashed r01-29 and OpenGApps Nano at the same time. Calendar is still 'Checking Info' and wants a different account. GMail is crashing.

Removed account, rebooted, redid my account, Calendar still 'Checking...'

Went into Play Store and it showed 'Calendar' by Google and the Install button. So I installed it.

Now I've got two different 'Calendar' Icons somehow. The second one just installed from the Play Store did load up and has my Calendar data though.

However, Gmail, & YouTube are crashing. Hangouts came up though. I've got something messed up I'd venture to guess.

Very Laggy....... I've done something wrong.

Also saw something I've never seen before, while rebooting the system before the Evervolv splash there was an HP logo with the phrase 'Powered by Android' underneath it.
[TouchPad Development] elginsk8r:
New splash i added the other day. Makes it look a bit more updated compared to our old splash screen
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Gave up on this went to KK CWM

I just checked the unknown source in security, and UC worked fine.. but Camera is inverted. I been using KK Philz build recovery and JC latest 11 its ten times smaller, seems to run no issues yet.. I toyed around with different KK ver. but this one to me, toped them all..
[TouchPad Development] middle_road:
Definitely, that was a neat touch. It flashes for just a second and I thought at first that I was imagining something.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Did I hear right? You are ruining cm11?
[TouchPad Development] silverstream:
Flashed 29-01 but can't find Updater in Settings anymore ... am I missing something?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
It is under settings/about tablet/evervolv updates
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Went back to 5.0, and tablet is alive again :). I can open app while others app are downloading with very little lag... I may stick with it..

Not taking anything away from efforts by dedicated developers to keep it alive, and for some, 7.1 works awesome.. just didn't work for me, so went back to 5.0.

1/29 build was much improved build, and ran good, but it does suffer from sluggishness.. I have done everything with kernel tweaks, and it made it better, but nothing like 5.0

Just my opinion !!!
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
I could be talking out my butt but I think something is fishy with the base sources being released from Google that the devs are being unknowingly subjected to that is causing the lag on the 7.1 recent builds. Things went south too quickly and the ROMS were working VERY nicely until very recently. One way or the other I suspect the devs will find the reason for this soon enough. Has to be something very basic and central to operations of the Kernel and Memory and CPU management because it is universally effecting everyone's tablets it seems, regardless of how they installed or have things set up and apps installed.......I HAVE FAITH!

8)
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
So you are saying older 7x were fine? I can go back to older older 7.x to get rid of my lag..
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Yeah try one of the older ROMS. Something from early - mid december possibly. I am sticking with the 1-29 for now to try to further debug this, although I am not sure if the devs are discouraged at this point or what. There hasn't been much chatter at all and the nightlies seem to have stopped for the time being.

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I am also starting to wonder if there is merit in revisiting the Android 6 ROM which was working VERY well when they moved to 7. I already had 3 Touchpads running when it was 6.0.1 Flintman ROM back when XDA was still considered NON-TOOLED hehehe which supposedly now they are ON THE TOOL TRAIN! hehehehe. I can't get to the details of that because no one seems to want to talk about it but I don't know why or how XDA got uncool in a hurry but based on all the involvement I see on the other place (*cough* Devs-Base.cxm *cough*) I'd say there are quite a few in agreement. But regardless I popped back onto this to edit it to add that I have been dirty flashing ROM's and GAPPS (OpenGapps PICO) since Flintman's (thanks for all the phun bud it's been so much!) Android 6.0.1 right into the early 7 ROMS and up to the current 1-29

But being Evervolv.....they are forever evolving!

8)
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Hey people try switching to ONDEMAND and DEADLINE for your CPU throttle and I/O Scheduler. My tablet snapped up HUGE and I launched a whole bunch of stuff that way. Launcher 3 posirtively seems to be having some problem with the no WALPAPER SETTING BUT i JUST CLEARED ALL APPS...SET WALL PAPER BACK TO no WALLPAPER. cLEARED ALL NOTIFICATIONS AND shut down. Sorry for the caps wasn't looking not going to type over.

So now I will reboot it and see what happens with a fresh boot and ONDEMAND and DEADLINE for a clean session and see what gives.
[TouchPad Development] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I will keep writing the same thing over and over until people read it so many times that they will finally comprehend!

The Latest ROM are very smooth, fast, quick, it may have some minor issues but that is expected. " Every single new Operating System out there whether is a desktop or Mobile, is a BETA. Nothing is 100% stable OS. We are all running BETA operating system. The changes are happening so fast and every year it keeps improving with new features that don't have time to mature to be stable. The next Android OS will remove features and add some which is part of the cycle to create demand for the next BIG upgrade.

The Touchpad is not new, but it will perform great, treated as a Tablet not as a smartphone. Limit the resources to the things you only use it for and do not load it with bloatware, tweak it to your specifics needs. There is no one touch bottom to fix everything and make everyone happy. Before making a comment about been slow and not working properly take the time to figure out a way to improve it and do not blame the Rom. The developers dedicate a HUGE lot of time into this and the users should too, before making claims that the Roms are not worth it.