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[Other SmartWatches] woschirmer:
How do you connect your M600 to the PC ? Bluetooth/Wlan?

Thanks for any hints

Wolfgang
[Other SmartWatches] swissalpine:
Via USB cable and adb / fastboot.
[Other SmartWatches] widezu69:
I can't seem to get fastboot to work. Adb works fine. Is there a specific driver I need to install?

Edit: managed to make it work
[Other SmartWatches] bennzl:
just got an m600, is it normal for the mic to not pick up voice commands unless it's close to your mouth on a certain angle?
[Other SmartWatches] woschirmer:
Thanks!!!
[Other SmartWatches] james194zt:
Hi, I am trying to flash TWRP to my M600 but cannot find the fastboot drivers for it, can you advise what drivers you used and if possible do you have a link? I want to try and get a firmware dump so I can have a dig around the file system and see if I can find a reason why Polar Flow won't work on my Huawei Watch 2 (no steps, from what I can see it doesn't seem to be connecting correctly to the Polar Flow app).

I am using x64 Windows 10, I tried some Mediatek drivers but they didn't seem to want to play ball.

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] swissalpine:
You can take the "normal" google driver.

Install "Android SDK" and force Windows to choose a driver from this directory for the Polar M600 when she is in fastboot mode and connected to the pc:

C:\Android\sdk\extras\google\usb_driver

Windows will complaining that this is not the correct driver but do it!
[Other SmartWatches] james194zt:
Thanks that worked connected using Fastboot and managed to get a TWRP backup so going to have a dig around in the ROM now.
[Other SmartWatches] james194zt:
This is strange, I managed to load TWRP once after using the Google driver but I cannot get Fastboot to work again I wanted to try and root the M600 but now cannot get in to the TWRP for M600 as Fastboot doesn't recognise the device using the fastboot command. The device shows up in device manager fine, I have uninstalled and reinstalled the driver several times but when I do fastboot devices nothing shows up, device manager looks fine the device is working according to that. Anybody have any ideas? I really want to get the device rooted!
[Other SmartWatches] swissalpine:
Have a look at the device manager when your watch is in fastboot mode.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
I have tried this but when I try to locate driver it does not show up. The SDK folder does not show up. Yes I have SDK installed.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
I got it working. Tried it on another computer worked flawlessly.
[Other SmartWatches] wht33lee:
Can you post a link to the rom? I bricked my watch. Instead of using the boot command from fastboot I flashed twrp to the recovery partition and now it won't boot Android.
[Other SmartWatches] ribogushter:
Does anybody know what exactly the battery saver mode does? Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
I'm able to connect using ADB when the watch is booted and running normally, but I can't see it in Fastboot. Oddly, in Device Manager it shows up under "Portable Devices", but when I start Fastboot, it comes up as "Android Devices". I'm going to try again on a clean system tomorrow, but anyone with hints for connecting in Fastboot with minimal mukking around with drivers and tools?
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Is there anyway to boot up to TWRP directly? Is there a button sequence to press? Or do we need to flash it everytime?
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
Just noticed you commented on the xDrip+ bluetooth patching in GitHub. I'm trying to do the same. I'm unlocked, but can't ADB in fastboot mode again. What was your process for installing drivers in Windows? Do you do a clean driver install while in fastboot or while booted up into Android Wear? I was able to get in once with FWUL Linux boot disk to unlock the bootloader, but since the watch was reset after the unlock, I've done everything I can think of to get back in again with no luck.

Thanks for any hints.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
You have to install the drivers when in fastboot.

Here is a screenshot of a post I created in Facebook. Hopefully it can shed some light. If u need anymore help. Hit me up.
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
Thanks. Had tried those methods on my Windows 10 machine, but today at work I used an old Windows 7 machine that worked much better. Got xDrip+ running and works great. Now I just have to get my vision prescription updated because it's clear I need bifocals to be able to read that tiny text.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Yeah I know what u are saying. I was using the Sony Smart watch 3 and it was great and had a larger screen. Go to setting on the xdrip app on your watch. There is an option to make the font a little bigger.
[Other SmartWatches] McPuter:
I have a problem with the latest update. After downloading I click to restart the watch. But the update breaks after a few seconds. I don't know the reason for this and I don't know where I can find logfiles.

Then I tried to install the update with twrp. Here I got the message E1004: system partition fails to recover

Has anyone have an idea? I think it could be a possibility to install a new image, but I can't find one in the web.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Are you talking about 8.0 oreo?
[Other SmartWatches] McPuter:
Its the update from build number N7G47K to build number NWD1.170904.001

I think it is both Android 7.1.1
[Other SmartWatches] McPuter:
When nobody hast an idea, I would like to install a new image of the system partition. But I must install build number N7G47K or NWD1.170904.001.

Can anybody give me a backup of the partition?
[Other SmartWatches] johnnyt76:
I got the exact same issue. Any way to extract those runs before resetting?

PS Just got a call back from Polar. They confirmed that from their experience there is no way to get the raw running data directly off the watch without connecting to the phone.

Now you guys are my last hope. Is there a way to directly connect to the watch and extract the running data?

JohnnyT
[Other SmartWatches] Comboqueerjet:
nop, sorry, as i just PM to you, i lost my runs.

A good reason enough for me to move at Garmin, which i excactly did.
[Other SmartWatches] towalski:
Hi guys

I use Polar v800 for sports. I bought Huawei Watch 2 Sport, as a watch with an additional sim card, I took it for a test - along with the V800 and it turned out that the HW2S works just as well as the V800. In that case, is it possible to install the training application with is on the M600, so that it can synchronize with Polar Flow?

OK - it's WORK!

Can anyone upload the latest version of the application??
[Other SmartWatches] johnnyt76:
This is the solution
[Other SmartWatches] towalski:
Where to get the polar mobile application? a friend wants to help me, but does not know where and how to do it. Someone?
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
[MENTION=2793689]borijess[/MENTION] Do you still have xDrip+ working as a collector? I was about to restart troubleshooting and see that my watch is now on version OWDB.180305.008 with Android 8.0. Don't see any new functionality except for new bootscreen, but I guess this means we'd need a new patch?
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Yes working great so far. I am on Android 7.1.1 still.
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
I'm not sure if the update broke it as it wasn't really working for me on 7.1.1, but I would guess that the ROM patch is wiped out now.

I don't see any options to not automatically apply system updates so be wary that the update may be pushed out soon.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
U jinxed me. Lol. I just got the update and it downloaded. Haven't let it update to 8.0. Hopefully I can keep ignoring it until there is a patch.
[Other SmartWatches] PsychoMcSatan:
At least you got the option to install. I didn't see any messages, though I did force a reboot in an attempt to refresh the collector service. You might want to avoid rebooting if you can.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Well last night while I slept the update was performed. Watch is now 8.0. I am not sure of the patch works on 8.0. Will try it when I get home.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Well I sent an email to the developer. He is working on a fix for oreo. When you are using xdrip+
[Other SmartWatches] as007:
I'm going to buy this watch on Amazon.it. Did he get an update to Android Oreo? I care about it, and I do not want to run over. I have a Huawei Watch 2 LTE, which got an update, but on my watch is still Android 7.1.1
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Yes the polar M600 updated to Oreo.
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
There is an update to patch oreo for xdrip plus for the polar M600.
[Other SmartWatches] gilsa1986:
H E L P..... I bought a pre used m600 on ebay and got it paired to the previous owner watch. Is there a way to unpair it without the watch present? some HW back to factory reset or so?

your help will be much appriciated
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
Yes just go into setting then system and select disconnect and reset.
[Other SmartWatches] gilsa1986:
sw version 2.0 and above

unfortunately this option is not available on ver 2.0.. as far as I can see normally it can be done only from the setting of the phone, but not from the watch. Is there something I'm missing?
[Other SmartWatches] borijess:
What is are running on watch? If its nougat then the link to video should work. If its oreo you just go to disconnect and reset. The pic shows my watch which is Oreo.

[youtube]2e5EQnaqsz8[/youtube]
[Other SmartWatches] Wiikash:
Yess I'm here, new m600 user.

Got one because while trying out GPS sports watches I realised that only premium brands offer reliable metrics, compatibility with services and accessories. Then compared to standard premium sports watches, M600 has limitless more potential because of Wear OS.

Though I'm kinda disappointed in the quality of most of the available apps: even wear versions of top android apps (like accuweather and the weather channel) suck horse ass. But good thing is I could easily make my own app if I wanted because Android, yay.

Also, look what I found:

https://grabcad.com/library/ladestation-charging-station-fur-polar-m600-1
[Other SmartWatches] alban7314:
I have polar m600. It working only polar demo. I would like flash it. I need good instructions on Windows

Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Other SmartWatches] Salroumi:
hello ,,

I have M600 and now it is not working . when i connect to charger its flash screen only. when i press front button give me (select boot mode: >>>>)

i try to connect to pc but i can not..

could you help me..
[Other SmartWatches] rawmaster:
Hi everyone,

Same problem here. I just bought this watch and it asked me to update the watch.

I did it, everything went fine at first, reboot, apps updating, reboot again and boooom..... watch is bricked and locked on Android red warning message saying that something went wrong, naming a file from polar folder :(

I have a try again button but it boot again and failed.

Is there an option to restore thsi watch or is it definitely bricked ?? :(

Thanks for any help to solve this ;)
[Other SmartWatches] Eleiyas:
Ok guys I need help here.

Bought a Polar M600, got it all paired and synced up and was going good for a few minutes until I got non-stop "fit has stopped working".

Went online and found out the watch probably needed to be updated, as it was still running Android Wear 1.5, rather than Wear OS 2.0/2.1.

Tried to update multiple times (takes bloody ages to download), but I keep getting "update failed".

No idea why.

Went through the method to retrieve the OTA link from Google, but I can't do anything now.

I tried unlocking bootloader after spending a good couple of hours getting the SDK drivers to work.

No idea if it worked.

Tried booting and flashing the TWRP from this page and it only booted to a black screen.

Now I'm back at square one with a factory reset device.

Need help as if it won't download the update over the internet, I'll need to flash it manually, but it's becoming a huge hassle.
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
I'm a bit disappointed, as new comer, to see the issues you're having; anyway...

I was posting a question: is it possible to use the M600 just as an heart rate sensor by an app running on a smartphone ?
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
Polar App to beep via bluetooth earbuds

It depends on the application running on smartphone.

Say the Endomondo can do that. You'd need to install the Endomondo Android WearOS application on your watch and configure it in the phone's Endomondo settings.

Other applications like Runtastic, Strava etc. may possibly do that as well, but I didn't check.

But M600 doesn't advertise itself as a Bluetooth Smart Heart Rate monitor, so it can not be used in arbitrary smartphone application which has no a WearOS companion app.

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Hi guys,

I'm working now on the modification of the M600's Polar apk to beep (or play other sounds) via bluetooth earbuds in case your are out of the target heart rate zone during the phased or interval training. I just can not feel this weak vibration the M600 produces during intensive intervals.

Generally the mod works already. I tested it in 4 training sessions. But some things are yet to be done. In particular it's to come up with some easy installation way which wouldn't prevent the OTA updates. For now I just put it to /system/priv-app/PolarFlow via the TWRP.

Unfortunately doing so I forget to backup the original /system image and now can not return it back to install the OTA update or get watch in stock to develop/test installation of the mod.

Can somebody help me?

Would you please share the stock /system image, ideally of the OWDB.180305.008 version (it's AW2).

Or may be full set of images (/boot, /recovery, /system) for some another stock version?
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
Thanks a lot for your comprehensive answer. Unfortunately from your text I found out (i.e. Endomondo is not compatible according to the plat store) that I'm with an outdated version for the WearOS: 1.4 !!!!

I tried hard to upgrade manually to 2.0 (settings-system-about-system updates) but M600 tells me that system is updated. Any help ?
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
I also get my m600 with the outdated OS and updated following the guidlines from the Polar support site. xda forum doesn't allow me to post links yet but you can google it as how_do_i_update_my_m600_system_software_to_android_wear_20.

Note, that you need to make sure that smartwatch is plugged in to charge and connected to Android Wear application on your phone, and your phone has an Internet connection.

Hope this would help.
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
No, unfortunately it doesn't. Of course I really appreciate how kind and supportive you're but I had already spotted the article you're talking about and followed all the steps and recommendations (including the peculiar actions you were suggesting me) without any results.

I'll contact the Polar support about that but I'm seriously considering the possibility to send the m600 back to Amazon. From a functional point of view there is a HUGE lack in the running polar app: it's not possible to customize the speed/pace zones; as a direct consequence that means that it's not possible to have training based on targeted speed/pace. Simply unacceptable. On top of that it's not clear if and how the polar app advises a) when a phase in a complex workout is finished (or the next just started) b) when the actual heart rate zone is not the target heart rate zone for that specific phase. If it's meant to be done through a vibration that is too soft (I've seen your patch and I fully agree with you).

It's really a shame to have such a crappy software because I appreciate very much the hardware of the M600: the battery has a decent life (better that other smartwatches) and the heart rate monitor is very good.
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
I still have the same issue: I'm stuck on Android Wear 1.5 and Polar support just suggested me to send it in maintenance. Before doing that, have you succeeded in upgrading to 2.0 somehow ?
[Other SmartWatches] Eleiyas:
Yes I did in the end.

I completely cleared the cache of the wear os app on my phone, completely reset the watch, charged it to full and left it on charge.

I re-connected it back up to my phone and let everything take its course.

Before doing any system updates, I allowed the watch to download all the apps it wanted and update the pre-installed ones.

After the watch was updated app wise, I then did the system update and it worked first try.

It seems to me that the system update bugs out if apps are updating in the background.
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
By the way, are you 100% sure you have no the update? Asking since looks like Google changed the versioning after the rebranding from "Android Wear" to "Wear OS by Google". For example my watch reports the following:

Wear OS by Google: 1.5

Android OS: 8.0.0

Build number: OWDB.180305.008

But it definitely has the "2.0-like" android software.
[Other SmartWatches] axxel84:
Same here, but with build number OWDB.180305.015
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
That's a VERY good point and, b.t.w., I have exactly the same version and build number that axxel84 has, but:

1) Polar support hasn't said anything when I told that I wanted to upgrade from OS 1.5

2) Eleiyas specifically mentions that he was on OS 1.5; now he has upgraded. I assume he's on something different: 2.0

3) I see MANY apps on the play store that are not available for my device; the reason being, I guess, an outdated OS version (although in a previous post you're mentioning Endomondo as an example and I assume you've installed it; for my device Endomondo is not available)

4) Polar website support shows two different "starting guides" depending on the os version: 1.5 or 2.0
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
I did install Endomondo in fact.

Hm, it's really marked as not available for m600 in play store and can not be found by search in play store on watch. But you still can install it:

1. Install Endomondo on phone

2. Run Play Store on watch

3. Scroll down upto "App on your phone" section

4. Click on Endomondo and install it
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
OK, thanks a lot for your clarification...and for letting us know a workaround.

This confirms me that you (and myself) are on OS 1.5 although an OS 2.0 should be available
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
NO! You are on the most recent version which is Wear OS 1.5. There is no OS 2.0 any more.
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
Why are you saying that? Lets forget for the moment the first three points in my previous post but how do you explain my fourth point?

Eleiyas, could you help us? What do you see in your M600 if you go to settings->system->about->versions as release for the "Wear OS by Google" ?

NB skorotkov, thanks for this conversation: it really helps to clarify things, I appreciate the time you're devoting!
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
Just google the how_can_i_check_my_m600_software_versions to find the most recent (Updated: September 4, 2018) Polar's document stating what is the "Latest versions of the Polar and Wear OS by Google software on your M600"

No problem. I just collecting 10 posts to be able to publish my patched version of watch Polar application which uses bluetooth earbuds ;)
[Other SmartWatches] axxel84:
What about the GPS accuracy? I own a Polar M400 too, and I went for a run wearing both watches a couple of times.

I found out that my M400 gps has a far better accuracy than M600's one - at least when using the official Flow app on the M600: if I'm running at a stable pace and suddenly increase the speed, M600 takes many seconds before stabilizing his shown instant pace (maybe 30-40), when M400 is far quicker. Not speaking of differences between the two watches instant paces when there are some obstacles, such as trees or buildings: sometimes there was even a minute or more between the two paces.

I thought that a 220 € watch would have had a better gps than a 100 € watch, although the price is higher mainly because of the AW ecosystem.

Did someone tried a similar test or noticed the same problem?

(I hope my English is understandable, clearly it's not my main language :) )
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
Generally I would consider the M600's GPS performance and accuracy as very poor at least in my location and conditions (I run and ski on forest trails). I can not compare with other watches but phone with Runtastic, Endomondo or Strava shows much MUCH better results on the same routes. Tracks are much more smooth and without any gaps. M600 looses gps information constantly, sometime for minutes. Below is a typical result of running session recording. Gaps in altitude graph show the moments (MINUTES!) without the gps information and the pace graph is a total mess. Track as such sometimes is just ridiculous.

[IMG="Graph"]https://i.imgur.com/1IcOpsL.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Track"]https://i.imgur.com/Ae6kimE.png[/IMG]

Fortunately I'm a beginner runner and don't focus too much on pace but on duration and heartrate zones. So in general it's more or less OK for me.

Nevertheless as a software developer I just can not deal with it. Reverse engineering of the Polar's watch application shows that it doesn't use the google's fused location provider API (which in theory would allow to use the GPS information from the paired phone) but some low-level location API which uses the built-in GPS chip only. Besides, it's possible that even with the GPS signal present it just lacks enough smoothing.

I want try to force the Polar app use the phone's gps instead of the watch's one. There are reports that at least some tracking applications can do that and even let user to choose which one to use: https://support.google.com/wearos/thread/30266?hl=en.

Anyway even after the watch purchase I take phone with me. I realised that I'm too used to it and feel uncomfortable without the phone going outside ;)
[Other SmartWatches] axxel84:
I think that the AW Polar app HAS to rely on the watch GPS chip (instead of using the one on the phone) just like any other running watch, otherwise you would need to bring the phone with you every time you run, and the M600 will be useless.

My impressions are - besides the M600 chip accuracy - that the data sampling is way too fast, which gives the unstable instant pace I was speaking about. Maybe slowing it a little will result in a better experience.
[Other SmartWatches] skorotkov:
You are right in general. Polar app MUST BE ABLE to rely on the built-in GPS. But at the same time it MAY also be able to switch to phone's one if needed (or user wants to).

Of course, from the Polar's point of view (and market segmentation considerations I suppose) it doesn't make sense to allow M600 to use the phone's GPS (... and support stride sensor, support cycling sensors, allow heart zone lock function, make audio alerts, etc.)

Thanks god, they didn't forbid usage of chest heartrate sensor ... yet

Yes, I mean something like that speaking about the smoothing.
[Other SmartWatches] the gladiator:
I got it now and I owe you a coffee, a beer, a glass of wine...whatever !

I was misled because if you scroll down in the web page you pointed me at there is a link that says "How do I update my M600 system software to Android Wear 2.0?" . I now reminded your previous post and I realised that Wear OS by Google 1.5 must be a version of Android Wear 2.0

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I was planning to record the same workout with the M600 and with an app on the smartphone + H7 hrm chest to compare it. Skorotkov already gave his feedback but I can add something different as I live in the middle of a big town.

I'll post it soon