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[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
Does the 7.1 11/9 nightly have the camera fixes that the test version has (ev_tenderloin-7.1-testing-2016.11.06.zip )?

I just wonder if I should start using the nightlies.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] racenrich:
No sense in determining whether is can be used or not.

Of course my opinion...as this camera is pretty much a useless on this tablet...however for its age everything else rocks!
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
If the notes on the rom indicate NO COMMITS is there a reason to flash it? I am assuming if it was posted there were optimizations bugfixes etc? The 11-10-16 seems nice and snappy. I am testing it on a bunch of tablets. I'll post again soon but everything seems to be running nice.
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
Well I installed the 11/10/2016 7.1 nightly using TWRP.

The camera fixes are not in that one.

With the 11/6 experimental test version I was able to use the Open Camera app to use the camera.

It now shows it being in use by another program.

No big deal, just wanted everyone to know that the camera fixes have not been merged into the nightly yet.
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Dunno man the camera works on all my 4 tablets I am running the 11-10-2016 nightly on so something else is amiss on your tablet. If you have a backup of an older rom you know the camera worked on I would suggest trying that because I suspect your camera might actually be bad in hardware, cause once again, mine all work and I am also using Open Camera from the play store.

Lip Lip Lip
[TouchPad Development] joshua764:
You can put the link to download that version? Gracias

Enviado desde mi Moto X Play mediante Tapatalk
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
If you mean the rom you will find it at:

evervolv.com

DEVICES:

Tenderloin

Nightlies: 11-10-2016

You will also need the open Gapps 7.1 Nano or PICO. I use the PICO

If you meant the camera app go to the Google Play Store and search OPEN CAMERA
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
I uninstalled the OPEN CAMERA app, then I flashed the 11/11 ROM (no commits lately, so it is probably the same as 11/9), then re-installed OPEN CAMERA, and now it works.

Thanks Mr. Lipkowski!
[TouchPad Development] deftoner:
Hi guys,

I'm trying to flash ev_tenderloin-7.1-nightly-2016.11.11.zip with 7.1 nano or pico open google apps, but the ttoolbox says that is an incompatible gapps zip :(

exactly what rom version and gapp file did you flash? is the ARM (non 64) right?
[TouchPad Development] deftoner:
Its strange since I tried the first rom an gapps that I flashed 2 months ago without any problem, and I keep getting the error.

ERROR: Incompatible GAPPS/ROM versions None/7.0

Is like is not recognizing the GAPPS version ("None")

I tried all 7.0 and 7.1 roms on open google apps page :/

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Ok, the problem were on all open google apps files (I mean incompatibility to ttoolbox), I used this gapps and works: http://xdaforums.com/android/software/app-minimal-gapps-gapps-lp-20150107-1-t2997368
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
I just use TWRP to do the flashing. touchpad toolbox is real picky on gapps and roms.
[TouchPad Development] deftoner:
I know, but I did the wipe from ttoolbox, so the tablet was blank, i needed to flash the gorup of 3 (recovery rom and gapps)

The Zip from Evervolv can be flashed from the recovery?

BTW I tested the latest rom and the camera works (its a horrible camera anyway, but I was curious) and the BT works awesome.

This HP was a gift from a friend that had it on box, I put it on my living room, near an sony audio speaker and I use it with spotify, for that, its great! :)

thanks for the reply.
[TouchPad Development] w1ll1m:
I've had an issue with all MM and now N ROMs.

The battery drops from about 20% to 0 and then turns off instantly. There's no gradual decline, it's instant.

Anyone else have this issue?
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
I still don't understand why these docks did not take over.

This is one of the best accessories I have had for any electronic device. It was worth the money I paid for it.

I guess I need to start buying phones that support a dock, where I can toss all of them on it before I go to bed.

This helps prevent a USB port from "wearing" out due to plugging/unplugging over the years for sure.
[TouchPad Development] exProphecy:
I have learned not to trust the battery level of the Touchpad as of late. I mean if we think about it, this battery is like what 5 years old now? Battery should be DED. I just keep it plugged in and use it as a clock on daydream mode.
[TouchPad Development] EricBlade:
I'm fairly certain that since upgrading to kernel 3.4, the battery levels have been officially screwed -- my original TouchPad still runs damn near it's original runtime, but the battery meter when running Android gets down to 10% and then it dies. In webOS, it's still normal. Dr. Battery in webOS shows a health meter at 94%, which is 2% down from when it was new.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
It might be worth rehashing lithium ion batteries and the history of how the the TouchPad and Android has handled the battery. It is well known that it is not good for lithium ion batteries to drain them down to zero. This was a practice used with nickel cadmium and NiMH batteries to prevent memory effect. That being said, J.C. Sullins probably best handled the issue of draining the battery too low by changing how Android used what was reported to it by the battery circuits. He changed Android to think it was time to protectively shutdown the TouchPad at a higher percentage. I'm wondering if this is what is happening here so that your tablet is shutting down when you see it at 10%. You are not doing your tablet's battery any favors letting it drain down that low. My practice with my TP is if it is above 50% at the end of the day, I just shut it off. If it is below 50%, I recharge it. And I never let it go below 20% during periods of constant use without connecting up to it's charger. There are also apps like AutomateIt that you can set a rule to turn off your TP at a percentage you choose. However, lithium batteries don't care if you recharge them no matter what the percentage is. But they do have a limit on recharge cycles, so frequent recharging will shorten their lifespan. Maybe one of the developers can tell us if what you are seeing is because the way Android is set up to prevent draining the battery too low.

One other thing to consider, the battery circuits and in particular the A6 firmware have always been suspect as a possible cause of the bricking issue with the TouchPad. One reason why Mr. Sullins included the reflash of the A6 in Touchpad Toolbox and his debricking scripts. It's a good idea that you run the A6 flash every couple of months or when you notice that battery drain while asleep is higher than normal. Using 3c's Battery Monitor to keep track of usage is a good method.

NT
[TouchPad Development] EricBlade:
While all of that is true, my Nexus 5 has also done the exact same thing since 5.0.0.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that your Nexus 5 battery performance has suffered because of the 3.4 kernel? It's been a while since I've read the Evervolv 6.0 thread for the TouchPad, but I seem to remember the users there posting how good the battery performance was and it uses a 3.4 kernel. I suspect Flintman is working hard to tweak the best possible performance out of this version. Google doesn't make it easy. Every time they release a new version the developers have a struggle to adapt it to each device all over again. And like exProphecy said, these batteries are 5-years-old. It's amazing they are holding up as well as there are. Like I said above, treat them with care to get the best service out of them.

NT
[TouchPad Development] EricBlade:
Yes, it is. Still have one or two in boxes too ;) My N5 often powers down between 5 and 8%, has been an issue for me ever since it upgraded to 5.0. Sadly, I get to put it out to pasture soon because it's screen shattered, and it's started to lose pieces :(
[TouchPad Development] vik5:
I think you cannot instal rom and gapps with ttools
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Why not? It's known that TouchPad Toolbox has issues with certain Gapps zips. It's also been discussed that if you already have an Evervolv Rom installed done with TPTB, as long as the /system volume is the proper size, you can then use recovery to install Nougat.

NT

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Knowing that it is not good for lithium Ion batteries to drain then down like that, why are you worried about a device shutting down at 5 to 8%? Could it be the phone maker is doing that intentionally to prevent draining the battery to zero?

NT
[TouchPad Development] vik5:
Thank for this 7.1 rom 11/13 .the wifi keep on droping and conecting to much wpa2 sect ,bluetooth start working and camera work but pict is upside down.
[TouchPad Development] wcdg:
This is a great rom and I've really enjoyed using it so far.

The only problems I have experienced as of now are upside down camera and non functioning proximity sensor.
[TouchPad Development] thenyboy:
Does wifi keeps dropping in the latest release?

Thanks!
[TouchPad Development] Judman:
Hey all,

Got an issue here with the Touchpad. Was running 2015.10.05 just fine for a few weeks until I got a notification for a ROM update. I went and checked out the change logs and decided to download and install 2016.11.09 though the in system updater. I selected wipe dalvik-cache,cache and to backup. The device booted into TWRP and did its thing ( I wasn't paying much attention). After it was done I rebooted to system and got the android setup screen. I went through setup wifi and signed into my Google account. I was brought to restore options and only had the option to restore. I cannot skip to get a fresh system, I have to restore from something. I selected restore from a previous Google backup (a few days before flashing the rom) and the process started then quickly the helper crashed and looped back to the select a restore option screen. I tried to restore multiple times and it crashes every time.

I attempted to reflash 2016.10.05, but I get caught in the same restore loop even with the old rom installed ( I must be missing some step).

I cannot find the backup the built-in updater was supposed to create and I also cannot get my PC to recognize the Touchpad storage volume when I mount data in TWRP. The PC knows the Touchpad is connected, but no storage drives appear.

I am at a loss! Any advice?
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
You forgot to flash the gapps for Android 7.1.

I think you updated from Android 7.0 to 7.1. The new nightlies are Android 7.1, not Android 7.0 any more.

Download 7.1 gapps, copy it to touchpad while in TWRP, factory reset, then flash rom, and gapps.
[TouchPad Development] MikeFRG:
There would be no 7.1 thread anymore?
[TouchPad Development] sakdroid:
I am on Marshmallow. I do see I get popup for Update to 7.0 version nightly.

Should i just download 7.0 nightly ROM it and GAPPS for 7 and do a Clean Install thru TWRP?

I used JCSullivan Toolbox to install 6 not sure the size what i set for system partition. Is there way to check what the current size of system partition?
[TouchPad Development] exProphecy:
LOLS thanks for all this info.. I was wondering, do you happen to have the dock then? Since you have tons of Touchpads and all XD

If so, is it also unsafe to just keep it docked fully charged for long periods of time?
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Yes that is correct. Especially the dock is pretty bad to leave the Touchpad on for days and days or weeks or longer because the dock pushes the upper limit of the charge.

Plus, since the new Roms Flintman has been working on the last 6 months or so have the JC Sullins low standby current magic.

If your A6 firmware is in good shape, you should be able to leave the Touchpad undocked for days and if not used see just a few percent of the battery used after a few days.

Battery Monitor Widget shows all my tablets, when the A6 firmware is properly hax0rized, to only be drawing somewhere between 2 and 4 milliamps which is next to nothing, when idle.

Previous conceptions of the 3.4 Kernel roms, starting with Android 5 were drawing anywhere from 20-45 milliamps when idle so that would drain a battery HUGELY quick. 2 or 3 days undocked and the tablet would be almost dead. This is no longer the case with these new roms.

You just have to remember to:

1. Use Battery Monitor Widget from 3C (the dev) which can be gotten at the Play Store.

2. When you see your idle current creeping up near 20 milliamps, get into Touchpad Toolbox (thanks JC!) and flash the A6 firmware back to happy.

3. Get Touchpad Toolbox on your Boot Menu so you do not have to use a computer to launch Touchpad Toolbox from the Web OS Recovery mode, but rather you can launch Touchpad Toolbox from your Boot Menu because your Touchpad Toolbox binary is on already on your tablet in the /boot partition, because being able to easily and regularly (as necessary when idle current goes high) flash the A6 firmware is a necessary step in properly maintaining the tablet.

In my post a few pages back, about resurrecting a marginal Touchpad battery, you will see I mentioned the higher charge state that the dock achieves.

The USB port charge with the stock or other charger will only achieve 4099 millivolts or 4.099 volts

The dock will take the battery slightly higher. I have two Touchpads that charge up to 4152 Millivolts and the other 4 Tpuchpads top out at 4147 Millivolts. Surely the slightly different capacity batteries in them account for this difference.

The dock achieving the higher charge state is more apt to damage the battery over long fully charged periods because of the higher charge state more easily pushing the battery towards crystallizing in the fully charged state as described.

In any circumstance the batteries do MUCH better when cycled often.

I never leave mine docked for long because of this.

Over night or for a day or two docked is ok but longer than that not IMO.

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And yes I have docks OH BOY do I have docks hehehehe.

I think I have 8 or 9 of them. Lost count. They are ALL over the house hehehehe

MY WIFE HATES ME!

8)
[TouchPad Development] Jharm:
Great work on this project!

Hey guys, I'm very pleased with this rom, I used it on a daily basis since I first flashed it. I'm like everyone else had the touchpad collecting dust for a few years. I actually had a dual boot with old WebOS on it, but stopped using because it lagged too much. Recently I saw that I was able to the old WebOS and also android 7.0 from this project, I had to try it. And boy em I satisfied. The tablet is running well. The battery life can't be trusted like a few mentioned in previous post , but I found that if a fully charged it, the charge will hold very well. Keep up the great work. One thing I'm having issues with is the nightly update, I haven't been able to update it through the rom yet. I find myself having to download and install the update, no biggie tho!
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I think you will find that if you use 3C Battery Monitor, you will find battery drain while asleep under -6mA. And since your tablet has been occupying a drawer for quite a while, you should pay particular to the suggestions from [MENTION=5098181]lippy lipkowski[/MENTION] and myself.

Others have stated that they have had issues updating using the built in updater. You would be better served just downloading and using recovery to install the Rom and Gapps.

NT
[TouchPad Development] lord_alan:
Where can I find a compatible gapps please? The link above no longer works.
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
If you are going to use TWRP (need version 3.0.2.0 of TWRP) for installing 7.1 Evervolv, I use the Open Gapps Pico 7.1 version you can get here (choose the ARM/7.1/PICO gapps):

http://opengapps.org/

The 11/18/2016 (or current) version of 7.1 Evervolv for the Touchpad is here:

http://evervolv.com/devices/tenderloin

I always use the PICO gapps because I can download any other apps I need from the Playstore.
[TouchPad Development] AlwaysLucky:
Sorry about that, I'll look for another mirror for ya.

He is referring to the older Gapps version that is compatible with the TP Toolbox "Install Android" option, after a full wipe, as described in my guide.

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Not for me! The latest version has only dropped my wifi once once I've been using the new version every night. I did notice the wifi uses up a little more battery life, but the trade-off for wifi stability is worth it!
[TouchPad Development] muerte33:
Sorry, I did not see he wanted to install from TPTB.

Good luck!
[TouchPad Development] knightnz:
I get no audio from Plex with 7.1, any known audio issues\workarounds?

I did a clean install and needed to find suitable gapps\rom which wasn't easy as most of the links are dead, but one of the sites resulting from a "touchpad 7 gapps" Google search did have what I needed, don't recall which one sorry.
[TouchPad Development] lord_alan:
Thanks for the reply. I somehow managed to get evervolv 7.0 to install from the Toolkit by using a file called gapps-700-base-20161114-1-signed.zip (forgot where I managed to get it from).

But presumably, now I have one Android installed (this was my first attempt on an otherwise clean and untouched Touchpad so I did complete data wipe) I should be able to install from the recovery tools?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Absolutely! Keep in mind, Evervolv 7.1 requires a 7.1 Gapps.

NT
[TouchPad Development] canonumpire:
This link is broken:

"Download a TP Toolbox Compatible GApps"

Can you please repair it (and if convenient, specify the gapps file by name).

Thanks!
[TouchPad Development] nARMstrong20:
You can't use Tp toolbox to install, iirc. It's looking for specific filenames I think, so you have to use recovery.
[TouchPad Development] Whyze:
**EDIT** Nevermind, I managed to figure it out (after a couple dozen downloads...)
[TouchPad Development] canonumpire:
UPDATE: I see from above that you suggest:

gapps-700-base-20161114-1-signed.zip

I did not make it clear that I am trying to install using TP Toolbox. This is my first ever attempt to install Android on my HP Touchpad, and (although I am ultimately trying to get to 7.0 or 7.1) I understand that TpToolbox 42 cannot handle Android 7 yet. So I am trying to use your (AlwaysLucky) how-to but for the broken link... Your advice and/or the *appropriate" gapps link appears to be all I need to move forward. Please correct me if I am mistaken! Further detail follows:

When one clicks on the link below where it says:

- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible GApps

it gives a 404 not found error. Can anyone (AlwaysLucky?) restore the correct link and/or repost it (along with the filename)? Thanks...!!!!

(p.s., I posted regarding this yesterday, but failed to be specific enough to make sense...) :(
[TouchPad Development] rfoster2009:
[MENTION=3716175]flintman[/MENTION] and [MENTION=2219132]elginsk8r[/MENTION] have done terrific work w/ getting the camera to work. Is is "high quality"? Nope, but it's definitely nice to capture some short video snips and pics.

For video playback, I use VLC and have done fine w/ both Google photos and the stock gallery on my TP.

Thank you and the evervolv team for all you do for our great devices!
[TouchPad Development] lspowers:
Need the TPTB Gapps file!

I screwed up and tried to install by TPTB and deleted the ROM I had installed... Trying to 7 on and looked at your post on how to do it with TPTB but the link for the compatible GAPPS file is not there, broken link. It looks like you had a GAPPS file titled: gapps-511-base-20160802-1-signed.zip. Is that correct? I can't find that file anywhere on the net... you can do a google search and it gives a few results but when you try to retrieve the file it simply is not there. Pulling out whats left of my hair trying to figure out what to do now. Was that the file you had linked to? Any idea where to get it or another file that will work? Thanks for your help... it looks like if that link would have stayed active then your fix would have worked.
[TouchPad Development] AlwaysLucky:
GApps download link updated!

[MENTION=7878421]canonumpire[/MENTION] [MENTION=7873475]lord_alan[/MENTION] [MENTION=7881439]lspowers[/MENTION]

Download link in my post has been updated! Let me know if you have any issues. :cowboy:
[TouchPad Development] Fancellu:
Problems installing with Touchpad toolbox 4.2

Did a full wipe, loaded below files, then did install android.

ev_tenderloin-7.1-nightly-2016.11.22.zip

open_gapps-arm-7.1-full-20161123.zip

FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip

but it complains about incompatibility

Any idea why?

What files should work together?
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
Use newer twrp by flintman.
[TouchPad Development] Fancellu:
Do you have a url/name for that?
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
The link is in the OP.
[TouchPad Development] gtallmadge:
You cannot use Touchpad Toolbox to install 7.1. Please read the forum closer. Post number #3 outlines what to use very well.
[TouchPad Development] AlwaysLucky:
My post explains why you would even want to use TP Toolbox, and if you need to use it you can use the guide. 3rd post down... :rolleyes:
[TouchPad Development] L3R4F:
Hello everyone,

My tablet has been really slow since I jumped onto the Nougat train.

By example apps like IMDB or play store takes 3-4 seconds to open, when launching apps I always need to wait a moment before I can use them

With speedtest apps, I can reach 15Mbps(download)/1.5Mbps(upload). When transfering a big file onto the tablet from my local network, download speed are around 8Mbps/s

I did not see anyone complain about that, so I am wondering if I missed something.

I tried the 7.0 and I installed the latest nightly build yesterday, no sign of improvements.

I also formatted /cache and /data partitions in F2FS

Thanks a lot :)
[TouchPad Development] canonumpire:
GOT IT! IT WORKS! MANY THANKS! :o :)
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
Why Not Use 7.1?

USE THE 7.1 11.24 Rom and Open Gaps 7.1 PICO

Lip Lip Lip
[TouchPad Development] superbonbon:
I used "cm-14.1-20161122-UNOFFICIAL-tate" and "open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20161125" after a complete system/cache wipe. In other words, I have had the same issue on 7.0 and 7.1, both after a complete wipe and rebuild of the file structure. Didn't have the problem on CM12.1. Is there some change between the 22nd and the 24th nightlies that might make a difference?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] lippy lipkowski:
It has to be some other combination of your apps installed perhaps? Or your tablet has a problem? I have this on 4 Touchpads now and the audio works on them all and I have never had any audio problems with the exception of Speaker Boost occasionally.

If you are using Speaker Boost try quitting and relaunching it. Otherwise I am at a loss.
[TouchPad Development] BGrosse:
Since when does the CM team release an Android 6 or 7 for the HP Touchpad? The latest release I have seen was the CM12.1 for the HP Touchpad. :confused:

And since the HP Touchpad's codename is "tenderloin" and not "tate" I assume you downloaded the wrong ROM. That would explain why you don't have had any problems with CM12.1 where the CM team was releasing their last ROM for the tenderloin.

This here is for Evervolv ROMs, not for CM ROMs. Please keep the difference in mind. The latest ROM you should post here about is named "ev_tenderloin-7.1-nightly-2016.11.24.zip". :)