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[Nexus 6  General] raiderep:
Not much more here but the hype is building

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/09/lockheimer-uses-androids-birthday-hype-upcoming-pixels.html
[Nexus 6  General] shayneflashindaily:
Blah blah blah lol
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Right. 458 posts (including this one) and we know exactly as much as we did at post 1. Time vampire waste of space.
[Nexus 6  General] teinwhite:
So stop reading, stop replying and go on about your day.

Your incessant whining about the thread does nothing to help with the content. So why bother?

Thanks for telling me that the thread is a waste of time. I had no idea.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
What an intemperate little chap you are...

Presumably you disagree with me then, and believe that the contents of this thread have furthered human knowledge? As others have commented before me, this was a stupid thread from the first conception even before it was posted. The answer that we all already know is "We have no clue" and every post is a timesucking waste. Including, I admit, this one.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Roses are red, violets are blue

Google is late, and we are getting on each others nerves here
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Have a thumbs up for making me laugh... :)
[Nexus 6  General] teinwhite:
Ditto! Minus a thousand though for not rhyming! ;)

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Intemperate? Intemperate!?

It has taken me 458 posts to reply. :D

Roses are red, violets are blue.

Your countrymen are doing their Brexit.

Perhaps so should you.

Sorry! As someone from your part of the world, I couldn't resist. (East Anglia)
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
Bottom line, if you are that bothered by a thread on an online forum, don't read it. Yeah this thread is a useless "time vampire" or whatever. But if you take it for what it is it can be entertaining. Besides, the mod already said they wouldn't close it because another one would start anyway. Just move on if it bothers you that much.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Forum needs a new name. Suggestion:

XDA Education.
[Nexus 6  General] fiffan86:
More like XDA: High School edition
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Good alternative. Maybe there will be a lottery for a new name. ?
[Nexus 6  General] biohaz55:
XDA: Let's arse about for a while doing nothing useful :silly:

It never ceases to amaze me how people read threads like this and then complain about threads like this !!!!!:laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I agree! Why must everyone on here be so hostile? This site is made for discussion and that's what's happening here. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea here, but that's why there's BILLIONS of other posts to go read instead of this one! Life goes on...... Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Ok, I'll shut the hell up then and just listen. :)

"We'd be fools not to ride this strange torpedo all the way out to the end."
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
I am trying to translate a Dutch proverb in English

''the bow can not always remain tense''

This thread would normally already been closed.

But than new threads will appear all over the place, as long Google does not release ' candy '.

This time the moderator team deserve a 'thank'.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
I'd say the best way to express that would be "the bow can not always remain

under tension

"

Or, from Cervantes: "The bow cannot always stand bent, nor can human frailty subsist without some lawful recreation."
[Nexus 6  General] idbl_fanatic:
So we are rapidly getting close to Oct 2016 (Nexus 6 EOL) do you think that Google is intentionally doing this, so that they don't have to update us, maybe because of some issues with the radio, or something?
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
Yes they are, its so that you'll go out and buy a new Pixel phone when its released. Its all about the dollars, doing the same stuff other carriers and OEMs having been doing for years. Using an update to lure people into buying the latest and greatest especially since google has Project Fi now. Getting close to 2 years since Shamu was released so they know everyone is about ready to upgrade now, I'm sure it'll work with people jumping ship and buying a new phone b/c they don't get updates first anymore.
[Nexus 6  General] Candy[MAN]:
Guys, according to Google, the Nexus 6 will end support for a new OS in Oct 2016. Having said that, the Nexus 6 will get all updates to Nougat until Android O is released (about this time in 2017).

We will have another year of Android updates....don't you all worry.

Take a look at the Nexus 5. Came out late 2013, ended support for a new OS in late 2015, however Google did push out MM to it. Received all of Android 6's updates until Nougat was released and now it will fade away with MM.

People need to relax. Android 7 will come to the Nexus 6. Period.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Stop being so rational!
[Nexus 6  General] clshores:
This is not new info. This is what we have always known. We are just patiently (Not Really) waiting for the N update for Shamu. I am guessing since we have come this far without it it will come after Oct 4 rollout of new devices and I am hopeful it will be 7.1 (but not too hopeful).
[Nexus 6  General] Lawstorant:
Oh god. 7.1 and than Android Pay here in Poland. I think that after 6 years of modding I might go stock.
[Nexus 6  General] clshores:
Don't get your hopes up. 7.1 might be Pixel only for a while.
[Nexus 6  General] Paul Moses:
I already feel the need to get a newer Nexus or the coming pixel. I enjoyed being among the few Nougat users while the updates lasted [emoji53] Farewell N6
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
This is by far the funniest thread on xda.

Always my first stop in the morning.
[Nexus 6  General] holeindalip:
Same here lol
[Nexus 6  General] clshores:
Stopped checking for update info weeks ago but as a place to LOL...Still checking it daily.
[Nexus 6  General] holeindalip:
Everybody will be in here bickering while in the background the OTA slowly rolls out
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
This long a delay just doesn't make sense for a nexus device. Out of curiosity, when did the penultimate device receive it's first new nougat os build (not a 2nd or 3rd one)? Was it more than 2 weeks ago?
[Nexus 6  General] SamuriHL:
August 22.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
I thought a couple of the other devices got nougat late too? I'm curious when the 6p got it's 1st n ota. I don't think that was the 22nd, was it?
[Nexus 6  General] LakerFam0824:
[IMG="RABLE, RABLE, RABLE"]https://media.makeameme.org/created/RABBLE-RABBLE-.png[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] SamuriHL:
The 6P was a weird device. Those on the N preview got an OTA pushed to them, but, it was never pushed for those still on M. The factory image wasn't posted for that version, either. So yes, you are correct that the 6P was a bit later, but, it was maybe a week or two. I don't remember.
[Nexus 6  General] SynisterWolf:
Nexus 9 lte is still waiting. wonder who will get it first?
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
At this point, does it really matter? :silly:
[Nexus 6  General] xconwayx:
I'll leave this here....

http://phandroid.com/2016/09/26/goo...rise-google-is-working-on-android-7-1-nougat/
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
Because we all know that running N will change your life. Good lord.

I swear people sound like spoiled kids that don't get what they want. "Johnny got a new bike, why can't I have one too?"

New versions of android typically come out in October anyway, so no big deal. I don't care if others got it sooner. It's not going to change my life or the way I use my phone. Grow up people and worry about what's really important in this messed up world.
[Nexus 6  General] adm1jtg:
Maybe we need a thread to complain about it... The aforementioned n9
[Nexus 6  General] HuStLaZ:
if you're desperate for N, sign up to the dev program.

Been on it for ages and can't find any faults
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Really? Unbelievable !

...and my last stop in the evening.?
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Crushing Apple?
[Nexus 6  General] aka_sirok:
We will get andromeda instead of nougat, you'll see
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
So, just hit me (yea, I catch on fast.....) If Nexus is ending and Pixel is the new thing from Google, this means there aren't gonna be ANY phones that run pure stock Android. Pixel with it's own features will be close, but not TECHNICALLY stock. :/
[Nexus 6  General] md07:
No, Andromeda is suitable for tablet or laptop, not for smartphone as Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
I tried it and the last n preview was very finicky at least for me. Loved some of the new rom features but the radio signal was really bad. I updated the radio twice to the latest one thinking maybe it didn't flash it properly the first time but it was just unusable on my device. That's why I've been waiting for a final build. And complaining about it not getting posted yet.
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
Just hoping we'll get 7.1 or atleast official 7.0 on the 4th October, I would hate if all other nexus devices got the 7.1 and we would have to wait again for 7.1, I'm hoping and praying Google has been working on 7.1 for our shamu all this time
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
The radio on dp5 is bad for me too. Try flashing one from before the previews started, the signal was better IMO. Other than that the last preview had been pretty solid for me.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
Oh, OK l will try that. I'd assumed nougat needed a radio upgrade.
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
No just bootloader. [emoji41]
[Nexus 6  General] daimerion:
Wish I could "like" this a million times!
[Nexus 6  General] BungleMX:
LOL I'll miss this thread when 7 arrives :D
[Nexus 6  General] Carmanen:
Don't worry guys, this thread will continue FOREVER! :D Google is just trolling with us, they don't want to give us Nougat because they have so much fun reading this ridiculous thread ;P
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
my good ol' nexus 6 served me well.. I hope he is happy now with his new owner
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
I've just read an article on an American website.

They were saying that Disney is already on a new animation movie called finding Nougat.

Something with fishes searching for an update. :)
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
I'd like John Cusack to play me... :)
[Nexus 6  General] SynisterWolf:
What did you move onto?
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
came back to oneplus .. but this time for the 3
[Nexus 6  General] hedgehogmd:
i got the OP3 great phone. but i still got Old Reliable she is getting grayer by the day waiting on 7. :p
[Nexus 6  General] krGemini:
Google should give up so called Nexus program and changed the "Coming Soon" status of Nougat for Nexus 6 to "Coming Never".
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Maybe a typo?

It's "Coming Ever"
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
I think it is Gone forever :D
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
"Groundhog Day". Nuff said.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
So maybe movie titles about waiting.

Not driving Miss Nougat.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
please bombard [MENTION=4418828]GoogleNexus[/MENTION] on twitter for a response. 5.5 weeks is long enough for us to be waiting cluelessly on a device they said the update will be rolling out to in their schedule.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
They said 'several weeks' a week and a half ago on the Android blog. No need to bombard them.
[Nexus 6  General] Trina9:
They've been saying that since August.
[Nexus 6  General] mchlbenner:
Get over it no update is coming for nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] Trina9:
[emoji115] [emoji115] [emoji115]
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
if Google halfassed the 6p nougat update, you can almost kiss goodbye 7.0 or 7.1 for shamu, seems that google have moved onto better and greater things, pixel that is ?
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I hope this isn't the case. It's bad for business to promise something and never follow through.
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
Its been 5,5 weeks since Nougat was released. And still no Nougat for the N6. I can only think of 2 options why we haven't gotten it.

1. They screwed up the final release for the N6 so badly that they have to rewrite the complete Rom.

2. They forgot to tell us that they changed their mind and we don't get it at all.
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Look, not a single person in these forums has the faintest idea when Google will release Nougat for the N6. The best we have is "Yes we will, in the next few weeks".

So unless you (all) have a definitive verified Google statement and can provide the reference, just don't bother to post at all.
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
No one seems to know that when we will get it, but rest assured we will get all nougat versions either 7.1, 7.1.1 or 7.1.2, I believe we will get 7.1 on 4th October when Google releases it
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
Reference...?
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Better than pointer...
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
This thread !

Seems reliable, because the thread is still open.
[Nexus 6  General] jmartin72:
This time last year, we didn't have Marshmallow yet. I think Google has learned a valuable lesson, and that is not to release an update before October.
[Nexus 6  General] blanco2701:
The 6P will get another update on 7.0 on Oct. 4th, so I really doubt we will go ahead of them.

I believe we will get 7.0 as well.

http://vodafone.intelliresponse.com...on=Google+Nexus+6P+(Huawei)+-+Software+update
[Nexus 6  General] jmartin72:
No one knows we are getting it on the 4th. It's all speculation.
[Nexus 6  General] daimerion:
*sigh*

Well this thread turned into a train wreck....
[Nexus 6  General] clshores:
3. They are holding it for other reasons.
[Nexus 6  General] najoor:
Give it up you guys already. Just go flash preview 5 and be happy. How different do you think the supposed final version is? Not much I bet.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
A lot, I hope. And I mean in the battery not draining, and stability, and much less Bluetooth connection issues, much much less data connection issues department. And not in the UI features department.
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
I don't have any of those problems. DP5 has been solid for me. The only issue that I have had occasionally is when casting to a Chromecast. Sometimes my phone indicates it is no longer casting, but there is still content playing on my TV. I will then have to reboot the Chromecast to be able to control it again, it might be a problem with the firmware on the Chromecast though...
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
Same. I'm so close to flashing Nutty or Understock but it's already been more than a month, stock 7.0 HAS TO BE OUT SOON. Now that I rely on my phone for work everyday, I can't be without something stable.

Only issues I've had with DP5 would be Bluetooth sometimes just not working once I device is paired. I have to turn off then back on or toggle modes on the device it's self. Not a deal breaker.

Come on Google your killing your loyal Nexus fan base! I've been Nexus since the Galaxy Nexus, and everything was going so well with the developer preview, not missing a single month release! What happened..
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
Bluetooth on dp5 was really bad for me too. One of cars actually would need to be paired over and over again and then eventually works reject the phone midway through streaming Pandora and refuse to recognize it thereafter. Plus the battery drain was spectacular and I did get random reboots and data connection was very iffy especially after swapping it to be the secondary ROM in multirom. So yeah, I don't think I can make do with dp5. Sitting tight on pure nexus.

"It's like deja vu all over again"
[Nexus 6  General] adm1jtg:
They are killing the loyal fan base anyway with the pixel... yeah i went there
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
Ever since the leaks starting appearing about a Nexus that looked remotely like an iPhone and had no front facing speakers, they lost my interest.

The 805 processor is still great. I think Google should (probably wont) support this device past 2 years (android version update wise)

Hell, my Galaxy Nexus (toro) is running 7.0 from the OMAP thread with little to know issue. We've gotten to the point where the OS can run well on 2011 hardware.

In regards to the Pixel, nothing is ground breaking. Like each Nexus device use to introduce. You won't see me upgrading for awhile and will be invested in the rom and kernel seen once more once Google gives us our official last breath from their side.
[Nexus 6  General] cameraddict:
+1 for not having these issues. The final preview has been mostly great for me. (I'm about to start my own threads with my only two issues...)

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The Chromecast issue you describe I have had on any device I connect to my Chromcast. So I'm thinking it is a Chromecast issue. I've solved mine by force quiting the app that is casting, or rebooting the device I'm casting from. I've only had to reboot the Chromecast itself once.
[Nexus 6  General] raiderep:
Ohhh man, the sky is still falling in here?!?

Relax folks, Google will do what it will regardless of anything said in this or any other thread like it. Enjoy the ride and stop sniveling about things out of your control.
[Nexus 6  General] blanco2701:
Just updating here... apparently we're getting just another security update for october.

http://forum.telus.com/t5/Mobility/Software-Update-Schedule/ta-p/53566
[Nexus 6  General] siggey:
on www.android.com, in android story section, the newest version is still marshmallow. So I think that we simply need to wait.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
'They' are just changing names.

Just received E-mail. G apps are now called G Suite.'

Changing names is a way to pretend things are new.
[Nexus 6  General] adm1jtg:
not the name change that is the problem... its the pricing and the fact its loading more and more proprietary crap as part of their base os. Pixel hardware and config simply isnt worth the price they are asking.....
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
Or... Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn are actually working on the Nexus 6 nougat update and it is still mid movie when they are screwing up.

There's also this:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/shelbyc...gat-more-network-crashes-ios-10/#67858dcf79d6
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
The pricing argument doesn't hold water. IMO any mobile device that costs over $500 is an expensive "premium" device. Nexus 6 was $650 retail. The only "affordable" ones were the 4, 5, and 5x. The 5x wasn't considered a premium device. The Nexus S retailed for over $500 FFS.

With technology advancing at the rate it is, the price is only going to go up. This is the world we live in, you have to pay to play.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
Do you have any idea just how meaningless that is?

First off, forbes isn't what it used to be. They've pretty much degenerated into a tabloid, especially when it comes to anything technology related. Not only that, but they are SO apple, that they are really really trying their best to make apple seem flawless and everything a buggy bloody mess.

forbes is the LAST place you go for valid technology news.

Next up, take a look at what that "article" is actually talking about, which isn't PLATFORM stability, it is APPLICATION stability. Ok, so what does that actually MEAN? It means that Android 7 has some very radical changes introduced that the APPLICATION developers may not yet have adjusted to, whereas the apple trash that they are promoting hasn't really changed at all since... ever. Hence no need to think about platform changes. While this may, on the surface, seem like a +apple, it really isn't, since in a couple of weeks when all those FORBES SPECIALLY SELECTED CRASHING APPLICATIONS have been fixed, the relationship will flip completely.

Their numbers are also absurd; they claim that "apps in Nougat crash 6.4% of the time, whereas iOS 10 has a crash rate of 4.1%" -- what the hell does that even MEAN? Because I will say that if applications were crashing even 1% of the time, then something is very seriously wrong. If you are spending 4.1% of your time reloading applications that crash, you are seconds away from whipping your phone against a concrete wall and forgetting about it. Or are they saying that 6.4 and 4.1% of THEIR SPECIALLY SELECTED APPLICATIONS **CAN** be crashed if they try hard enough? Noting of course that even if the program is made by the same publisher and comes with the same name and LOOK the same, they are different platforms, so they are in fact NOT the same program at all! No matter how you look at it, this forbes tabloid sensationalistic nonsense has NO VALID MEANING.
[Nexus 6  General] adm1jtg:
Its cause of people like you they can get away with that. Asking $650 to $750 for the hardware and size of the pixel is insane. it is not premium based on size or features and with the additional google bloat now being added in it has even lost the "pure google allure" as pure google now means aosp skinned by google instead of by htc or whoever.

You reference to the N6 is valid EXCEPT that it had more premium features... wireless charging (we don't know if pixel has this), HUGE screen, Front Facing Speakers more ram then other phones of its time. The pixels are smaller (5" and 5.4" if I recall ), lack FF speakers, may not have wireless charging and has the now standard amount of memory. Can you please show me the PREMIUM part? Also the most expensive google phone to date that I know of was the N6 at $650 the starting price of the pixel smallest model is $650 with the larger being like $700 and $750.

Very bad move google what were you thinking?
[Nexus 6  General] lordneopt:
Google thinks it can persuade people to buy an uber expensive but somehow an average phone just by placing the Google logo there and removing manufacturer branding.

But like i said before, since Pinchai toke control of Google that Android went down the hill (software and hardware). The Nexus 6 was his last released phone and he also contributed for the release of the 6P. Android lollipop was innovative and then stagnation, oh well, if Pinchai thinks Google can sell more by following this path..

Either way for my side i'm not buying a Google device in a near future, first because if the rumors are true i hate the path they are following, and second all this situation with a LATE update for the N6 also didn't help. If they can skip or postpone releases on their own devices who are users to condemn the manufacturers.
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
Curious - what was so innovative in Lollipop, that made marshmallow's Doze and Permissions management, or Nougat's enhancements seem "stagnant"? Besides, why would you just look at the major OS releases, and ignore all the App enhancements (like in Photos, Keep, etc), and framework enhancements?

Situation with N6 update - stuff happens. It is not the norm - this is the first time (that I recall) that a Nexus device had updates delayed like this.

If you want to skip Google devices because of this delay, and move to a different manufacturer or different OS, well, that's your loss choice. Device cost has been going up for a while now - they have had some low cost devices like the 5 or 5x, but 6 and 6p were not very inexpensive compared to the rumored price for the Pixel devices. And they changed their marketing strategy now.

I get it - I'd prefer lower cost as well, but they really have no reason to push the cost down, when their competition (premium devices) are all in the same price range (or higher). Google devices are not sub-standard quality. Why should they be cheap?

A large portion of Google's revenue is from search and ads and software. Profits from hardware are really small compared to the rest. So, even if the Pixel doesn't sell well, I suspect it won't bother them all that much.

P.S. Pichai (not Pinchai)