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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ambrosios:
As long as you dont charge it during the flight....its not going to explode.....no one has ever had issue using the phone while it is not charging.....so he would be fine.....some people already had went on flights both within the us and aboard with no issues as recent as this afternoon ....somr didnt even get a warning from airport staff
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] les_garten:
Here's what he said,

Samsung has said turn the phone off and stop using it, it is dangerous.

Perhaps we can all clear this up with the Legal dept at Air Canada?

What do you think their response will be?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
My post was meant to share Samsung (and the carrier's) position in terms of liability. I didn't say I agreed with it. I'm still using mine and don't plan on dealing with the early madness of everyone storming Samsung and the carrier's to be first in line.

AC has Dreamliners. They are still flying them even though the original cause of the battery fires was never identified. A new and improved battery containment system was introduced and you can assume it works because there haven't been any more fires. But let's be honest, the first battery system was certified by the FAA and CAA and worked flawlessly in all pre-certification testing. It worked fine in passenger service triggering nary a warning. It worked fine up until it didn't. The parallel is no one knows how many Dreamliner battery fires could have occurred and the same thing applies to the Note7. The second parallel is the media's overreaction and sensationalism of both events. Maybe the individual Dreamliner issues were a 1:1M fluke; maybe every battery was a ticking time bomb. I personally am looking at the Note7 issue as a fluke affecting a small percentage of phones. Others can look at it any way they want to. Samsung sold 85M smartphones last year. I'd assume the majority had SDI batteries in them. It's not like Samsung doesn't know how to make batteries and it's not all that complicated or bleeding edge.

Being in the industry you also know how ridiculous the Note7 airplane bans are. Are flight attendants going to be trained to identify Note7s? Further trained to identify "new" vs. "recalled" versions? And I'm sure the CAA has similar flame retardancy regulations to the FAA. From the pictures I've seen if a Note7 did overheat on a plane the odds of it causing a fire are extremely slim. And if, God forbid, there was a seat pocket fire it wouldn't be an uncontained raging inferno. It would be something that could be extinguished very easily. People would probably have to change their undergarments but a Note7 won't bring a plane down.

Like I said, I just wish this was over. There are probably like 5 themes in this tread and all have been repeated ad nauseam. And I'm guilty of repetition too.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jmitr:
Relax dude. Of course I know better That is why I am using my HTC M7 while at work. If you actually read all my other posts on this matter you would know that.

That does not change the fact that Samsung has thoroughly borked this "voluntary exchange" and told me my phone is perfectly safe to keep using it after telling them what I do for a living. As it is while im at work my Note 7 is NOT in my airplane, it sits in my car. Sorry, not leaving it at home with my Wife and 4 kids either. My car can be replaced, they can't.

Samsung should do the same.as the carriers here are doing.

1. Accept the returned Note 7.

2. Give a loner (any loner, I dont care what model)

3. Send a replacement Note 7 when available.

Allowing the customer to replace it if they want is cool. I purchased a Note 7 because I want a Note 7. If I wanted the S7 edge I would have bought that when it came out.

But, if you choose a replacement Note 7, Samsung Canada if refusing to take.your old Note 7 until the new one arrives. That is wrong and that is the entire point of all my posts.

So Relax, I am responsible enough to know not to use my phone at work but Samsung is not.

We go away for 4 day pairing by the way, not just one flight. So luckily for me like most enthusiasts I have a drawer of old phones. Going away from my Family and being out of contact for that time isn't an option.

I am not.the only one who thinks Samsung has screwed up this recall. The U.S government agrees with me.

---------- Post added at 08:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 PM ----------

Yup. I.did say that to Samsung trying to convince them TO TAKE MY DAM PHONE BACK.

Want to know their response? Like a dam politician stating how small the chance something going wrong is and I am fine waiting.

As I have said repeatedly. I am NOT USING MY NOTE 7 ON MY AIRPLANE.

Sorry for the all caps, some people can't take the time to read entire posts.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Well, for one...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] GibMcFragger:
Geez. The V20 is a tank. It's iPhone Plus sized. I'll keep my Note7 thanks. :)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] guthrien:
It's fine. It's a giant step down from the Note 7. It's inferior to the Nexus 6P. Since Verizon charges just $120 less than the Note, it's borderline ridiculous. Using this in the meantime would just leave me more depressed. It's a solid, boring phone that's way overpriced from the carrier. I can't imagine any reason to buy it over a cheaper Nexus. In short:

It's solid and squat, heavy, with a 5.2" screen.

The screen is a LCD and less impressive than the Nexus OLED, let's not even mention the Note.

It's relatively bloat free, but worse than a Nexus.

You have to pay this guy $25 to root it (not a joke, and from what I can see, don't dare question it anywhere online) Hello Nexus!

The camera for me was at best equal to the Nexus, usually worse with grainy processing.

It's far more expensive than the Nexus which is manifestly a better phone. I'd trade my Nexus 6P for a new Note 7. Therefore, no this is not a good substitute though it will make the Note 7 seem amazing all over again. My curiosity has been satisfied.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
People, I thought the phone catches fire and melt, not exploding like a grenade. Trust me I once saw a iPhone 6 (no S) exploded once. Not even when it's charging. it was put on a table. it somehow overheat and exploded. It was terrible. And it doesn't even look like Note 7. Because one is a melting, and another is an exploding.

Like the guy who charge his note 7 on the bed, next to him in the hotel in Australia I think? If it exploded, doesn't it mean the guy's head is heavily injured? But no. Just caught fire and melted.

I don't understand how a melting phone is more dangerous than an exploding iPhone.

How can playing with fire is more dangerous than holding a grenade.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] les_garten:
They vent, look it up
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ppgirl:
There is one app of "Explosion Checker for Note7" in google play to check your mobile issue.

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.N7BatteryChecker
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Do you have any evidence to support those assurances? For the vast majority of Note 7 fires so far, I've noticed no report as to whether or not the phone was charging at the time.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] radioraheem2:
i have the V20 on me right now (a friend works for LG in Korea), it feels quite bulky compared to the Note 7 (the V20 is a bit taller than even the V10, but a bit slimmer). it's smoother than the Note 7 though in terms of jumping between apps and typing. no lag here.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
Look up all the cases of exploding note 7.

If the phone explodes when it is NOT attached to charger, that means people can get injured easily. Thus the phone wouldn't be allowed to be used until today. Samsung would have pulled them back 2 minutes after the incident.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
As I said, in most instances I've seen no report as to whether the phone was being charged. If you have better documentation, please point us to it.

By "pulled them back" you mean issuing a recall? As they did nine days ago?

Samsung itself has not claimed that the batteries can catch fire only while charging.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
Samsung, yes, didn't mention about the specific problem. There is no official statement about the battery or charger or whatever. They only did announce the recall, which I think they did announce 9 days ago. But not really telling customer to give in the phone immediately. Which mean the problem is not as serious as hand grenade.

But the problem, can be found all over the internet, that the devices exploded while charging. Proof images, and customer's comment as well I guess?

Just like you, at first I thought about people using their device improperly. Causing the overheat and explodes. But then it's not. It's just that fast-charging that cause device to overheat and explodes.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Again, the vast majority of the fires have no such documentation that I am aware of. Nor have you pointed to such documentation for the vast majority of the fires.

I have not thought or written about that at all. But I object to issuing strong safety assurances without facts to back them up.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] alltaken123:
Advice is to shut the phone down and return immediatly in the UK, I think that solves the whole 'it's only liable to vent when charging issue', clearly Samsung have a wider concern and nobody can be sure if a person is going to not use the device whilst charging. :fingers-crossed:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
Like I said. There is no official statement or anything. It's up to you to do the research and figure out by yourself.

For better info, why not contact Samsung directly regarding the issue? Here, we see the same thing on the very same internet. News that come up, we all saw that. That's what we see, and believe. That's it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
If you've done research that supports your safety assurances, please show us that research. If you can't, please don't make unsupported safety assurances.

Because Samsung isn't going to give me any information that they haven't already released to the rest of the public. And nothing they've released supports your safety assurances.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
OK. I'm not going to continue this. My word is not what you might want to read. It's not what you're gonna believe anyway.

It's not hard to do the "research" with all the Samsung haters out there waiting for things to happen so they can rise and shine with their blogs. Wink wink.

I don't want people to take it seriously when I said the problem is with the battery charging, and not the random exploding. Because Samsung never did say so. It's just me. And I read that from internet. And I didn't screen shot or save those links. But I read them. That's what I know. And if I am wrong, then point it out. But if you want me to prove that I am right, i am not gonna do that. That's it. I use common sense. From my memory, thats what I can assure. And I "think" the reason Samsung hasn't given the exact detail of the problem, is because it's so obvious for people with common sense like me to know. There is no explanation that Samsung had to make. They just launch the recall, and you follow. That's it.

The end.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
I wouldn't mind getting my hands on that. Does your friend know when they are going to get released?

I'm so fed up with Samsung now and frankly lost a lot of trust in them
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Ok, yes, Samsung is relying on people like you to explain to the rest of us what's going on. Thanks for clarifying.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
I thought they relying on us that we would understand, as we have common sense. But I really hope they do make official statement on the problem so those who don't have could understand.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Novarider:
Anyone else wonder if Samsung will be going back to removable batteries after all of this? It would have been much faster and cheaper to ship out new batteries then to ship out entire new phones. Not to mention how much easier it would have been for the customers. I don't think it would be to difficult to still make it waterproof either.

My carrier (us cellular) has NO idea what is happening. I called one corporate store and was told they are NEVER going to sell the note 7 again or even get replacements. My only option was to get a s7 edge. I called another corporate store and was told they didn't know when replacements were coming in but I could just keep it it's "only like 1% of phones that are catching on fire"
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Belimawr:
the S5 was waterproof and a removable battery but it wasn't a nice design. the sad fact is they can make the devices more compact and a better design by making the battery non removable.

I do like the design aspects of the sealed unit, but it would be interesting to see a firm innovate and make a way to load and unload the battery on a tray similar to how the sim tray works.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
From the Associated Press yesterday:

(emphasis added)

"Most" does not imply "all".
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Man, I seriously wish people would stop complaining about the removable battery BS, it's over its been over like 3 years now. Let it go. Or move on to a different phone maker. It's like complaining that refrigerators no lobger have a slit at the bottom for huge slabs of ice, or that phones no longer have rotary dials, or you don't have to crank washing machines, or cars don't come with ash trays. Just let it be. I've been a loyal Samsung user since the Note 1 and said "smh" to the sealed battery and no expandable storage for about a week into own my s6 Edge + (coming off a Note 4) and then I was over it, because it didn't matter, cloud storage and fast charge negated those issue for me and more than likely most people in the world. I'm sick of the flimsey, tacky looking plastic back. We got expandable storage back and then we go right back to beating the dead horse of "No removable Back or IR Blaster" ... Who cares about an IR blaster, I can turnn the channels on my house TVs even better with the Time Warner Cable app, and all the speakers in my house are Bluetooth and any audio is run directly from my phone ... I mean I've never seen people complain so much about moving forward in technology. Would it have been easier to recall with a removable battery? Sure because far less people would have bought the phone including me. Would it have stopped the recall issue by having a removable battery? Nope. Would this phone be as beautiful with a removable Back? Nope.

For Christ sakes let the removable battery issue go. It's over, grab a phone that has it and move on. The 100 people who are still holding onto the removable battery are not the majority. This constant moaning about the non removable battery is counter productive and pointless, because the battery is in FACT NOT removable, no matter howany Note 7s blow up. And after like 6 non removable battery phones having no problem. Samsung isn't gonna go "Oh man, we should have kept removable batteries because this ONE time, we had a issue"

I never show irritation on these boards, but for the love of God, I'm trying to read about the recall and like a good 30 of the 60 pages on this thread are about pointless babble Iother people trying to stay up to date on recall information have to sort through.

Start a "3 Years later I'm still sobbing myself to sleep at night because I can't remove my phones battery" thread and let the holding on to the past comments commence.

Anyways ...

Good Day.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Novarider:
Well this is quite obviously an attack on me so i'll respond.

First I never once complained that the battery wasn't removable I simply asked if anyone else thought they may change their mind in the FUTURE since it would have made it easier and faster.

Did I moan about it. Nope

Who the **** is "sobbing myself to sleep at night because I can't remove my phones battery"? Cuz it's not me.

You seriously would have skipped this phone if it had a removable back?

Who mentioned IR blaster? Where did that even come from?

How is a non removable battery "moving forward in technology"?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
It wasn't an attack on anyone personally, unless you are single handedly responsible for every "non removable battery" comment in these boards, which I doubt ... But could be wrong. If it was aimed at a specific person or post I would have quoted it, look through the thread there's countless comments of people still complaining about the non removable battery which is completely irrelevant at this point. Thread has been hijacked with nonsense.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] :
While I have no problem with sensible heated debate I do have a problem with some of the language used and things turning into personal attacks. Keep it friendly and keep it clean or action will be taken against accounts

Regards

Sawdoctor
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Why yes, it is. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Lemme go ahead and answer these ...

Sure, its possible, with phones becoming more streamlined and sleeker, a flimsy plastic cheap looking back is a thing of the past and depending on execution and the current phone competition, It could deter me, If I'm going to spend upwards of a grand on a phone, I want it to look updated. Aesthetics are just as important to me as the internal hardware and software of the device. Please tell me how I am not a "purist" or something because of that.

Many MANY people have mentioned the IR blaster since the Note 4 was last years model, you'd figure they'd stop at some point, but nope where on the Note 7 and still talking about an IR blaster, check the threads you'll see plenty still bringing it up.

The non removable battery wasn't what i meant when I said "moving forward in technology" per-say, that was meant for the IR blaster more. But yes I do believe locking down the phone and making it a "solid piece" is part of making the current phones what they are for water and dust resistance and beyond in the future, quicker fast charge that isn't an add-on of the phone but is integrated. And obviously aesthetically for making the phone slimmer and more streamlined and more pleasing to the eye.

Not a fan? OK beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there's plenty of phone companies that use removable batteries, There's no doubt we as the customer have options. Or by all means start your own phone company.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
The pictures I've seen all show the damaged Note7 completely intact. In this example the phone got hot enough to damage the plastic case but not hot enough to destroy it. The home button on the phone in the pic isn't even damaged and it's made of plastic. I think "overheat" is a better adjective than "explode." Kind of makes you wonder how a Jeep could ignite when a plastic case and the home button weren't heated enough to melt. Were the payments current on the Jeep. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Kansatsusha:
First thing I learn about the note 7 battery... well not really first I learn it later on but "imaginary battery pull" pressing vol-down + pwr is just like apple home + power. Idk if you able to change the battery later down the line by opening it up though. Of course that will void warranty service.

I dislike cloud service unless I got most or full control over it like those seagate wifi drive or wd Mycloud so upgrade-able storage is a big plus.

Other than that I enjoy the note 7 but might consider waiting a week after they release the note 7 again. I might take a look at the LG V20 though =3
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
IR as a technology is equivalent to a cassette tape. Line of site is so 80's. My TiVo is RF, my thermostat Wi-Fi, Samsung's TV remote app is Wi-Fi, and I control my Galaxy View with a Samsung BT app. As the IoT progresses we'll control the devices in our lives via Wi-Fi. It's time to let IR go.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Agreed, Aside from my TV, I don't think I own anything else that uses IR, WiFi and Bluetooth run everything in my house. You can't buy updated tech and expect it to cater to last decades tech.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
Actually I stated before that the phone melt. Not exploded. My bad that I kept using that word.

A glass phone exploding is a nightmare. But like the other guy who slept in a hotel with note 7 charging almost under his pillow, he would have died if it actually exploded. But it just caught fire and burnt a small part of mattress and carpet.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Carpet is plastic or in some cases wool. Based on the photo I posted the heat generated wouldn't seem enough to actually ignite carpet. It would melt plastic and singe wool. The phone in the pic clearly didn't catch fire and I don't think an overheated Note7 could. If it was sitting on paper perhaps the heat could ignite that.

All these stories being shared are so overdramatized it's hard to figure out trends. And there's always people looking for their 15 minutes of fame. If that were my Note7 in the pic all it could take out is an OEM Samsung case, damage a OEM wireless charger, damage the finish on wooden tables, or burn my ProClip car holder. If it was on granite or glass there would be no damage at all. If all Note7's that overheat do so like the one in the pic I'm having a hard time grasping how they could take out cars, garages, and mattresses.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hoursenghong:
I remember last time a guy reported about his burnt phone (can't remember the name), just to get owned when company figured out that his phone was burnt using microwave heat. He later claimed his phone fell in the water and he tried to dry it up.

Now that we have this, and Samsung also accepted that their devices have faulty battery issue, I cant do anything but believe them.

Taking down a jeep is really unbelievable. It sounds like a frag grenade or something. Still, Samsung said they would pay for that. So, yeah, let's just believe that.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] dlang123:
Phone on fire in the Jeep, could catch interior on fire pretty quickly.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Then FCA is in more trouble than Samsung. From the NHTSA regarding flame retardence of automobile interiors. Spoiler alert for those that don't want to download and read the NHTSA regulations: car interior materials don't burn and especially combust easily.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...03.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHa3CPNNDKjzen-K-ODF5chK7BCAA

That being said there could have been a pile of papers or some other catalyst that caused the Jeep to burn but it's highly unlikely that the interior parts of the car would have combusted on their own. Especially as the pic above shows the plastic case and parts of the phone didn't even melt. Plastic melts at 170 degrees BTW. So the media and Buford accounts aside Note7's aren't turning in to fireballs. I'm also guessing that once the chemical trigger fries the battery the event dies out pretty quickly. Meaning a short burst of extreme heat and then the battery just dies and begins to cool along with the rest of the phone. Even if the charger remains attached the parts of the phone receiving current will have died in the incident.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] GibMcFragger:
I called insurance scam the minute I saw that Jeep fire hit the news. I bet the fire investigators will find an ignition catalyst OTHER than the phone (gasoline, etc) once they start going over the wreckage.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Fishdj:
I think this is a little different. A recall to me feels like something they are obligated to fix for as long as the phone's genuine and no matter where you get it from. If I cant get my phone replaced, I wont just stay quiet about it.