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[Android Software Development] elraffa:
Can I install narsil together with ainur?

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[Android Software Development] DrNinjaa:
Installation failed on Oneplus 3T, recently released 9.0.2 android pie official oxygen Os,magisk 19.2.
[Android Software Development] mrvnsk9:
You have to Uninstall Sauron before installing Narsil. I'll leave it to the devs if you did uninstall Sauron.
[Android Software Development] RagingHarry:
working like a charm, just upgrade my Tab S2 and OP6, no need for a full reinstall, upgrade went just fine.

Tnx for the update!!!
[Android Software Development] adame09:
Nope shouldn't be run together.
[Android Software Development] wawanRedblack:
Sauron vs Narsil which one is the best?? ?
[Android Software Development] DrNinjaa:
It's a fresh install, no prior mods installed
[Android Software Development] gehess:
They do two very different things, so arguably neither is better; they're just different.

What sounds better is up to your device, speakers/headphones, listening space, music choice, ears, brain, etc.

Only way to know is try them both.
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
Anyone try the Narsil yet? if yes tell me the sound experience and compare the different of Sauron and Narsil please. Thanks a lot
[Android Software Development] finnal123:
If your phone has good DAC, AMP, Narsil'll diasable all software DSP, effect and let your hardwares do the trick. If your phone pretty old, i suggest using Sauron.

On my mi A1, which has pretty good internal DAC and AMP, Narsil produce more bass, rest is the same.

U can try both and compare by yourself.

Hope this help u

P/s: As i understand, Narsil cant use with other mods
[Android Software Development] BenParz:
Can I use viper4android in conjunction with narsil?

EDIT: Apparently, you can use v4a with narsil and the difference is night and day compared to v4a/sauron.
[Android Software Development] knpk13:
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[Android Software Development] knpk13:
I tried Narsil and I don't really notice a difference. I have a OnePlus 3T running near stock LineageOS 16. Installing V4A and using the DDC option for my ATH-M50 headphones produces a very noticeable difference though. Default audio seems muddy and unclear without DDC by comparison (seems to be a lot less bass with DDC, but a lot more detail/clarity between different sounds), though I don't really know how to identify accurate, true, neutral, desirable audio quality. Or whether using DDC is right.

Does OP3T have a good DAC/amp? I'm not sure whether to use Narsil/Sauron or V4A or any audio mods at all.
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
My phone is Galaxy Note 4 , can you suggest Ainur Sauron or Narsil?
[Android Software Development] Sukhwinder449:
Is Narsil sound mod simply plug and play? First time user here. Or does it need some configuration?
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
Installation failed on samsung galaxy note 8 exynos variant 950f.
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
Like an Ainur Sauron no Application to customize, flash in TWRP or Magisk. customize the Nasil option is avaliable too!!

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Try to flash in TWRP if fail try to grab a logcat
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
Try to flash in TWRP if fail try to grab a logcat[/QUOTE]

Tried with twrp same error
[Android Software Development] finnal123:
For pretty old phone, i suggest sauron

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For your device and your taste, i suggest u stay with your set-up that satisfy u. Narsil should better be used with phone has dedicated DAC or good AMP, it will claim maximum power of hardware. But u can try it, if u dont like it, just uninstall and reinstall Sauron and V4A, Magisk let us do it easily (thanks topjohnwu for created fabulous thing)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Magisk? try flashing with twrp
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
Tried both with magisk and twrp
[Android Software Development] BenParz:
Narsil is not compatible with Viper4android, yes?
[Android Software Development] vinoxflame:
you can use both altogether
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Hmm we'll check, that should be segmentation faults, post narsil_debug log
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
For everyone can't try both it will error 1 in TWRP try to remove another one and then try to flash the module that you want again

Edit i already try for today flash in TWRP ERROR: 2

View attachment 4767161 Log for Narsil
[Android Software Development] r2ur_go:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] Installation failed on HTC U12+
[Android Software Development] Sir_gpm:
Tested both, to my ears will stay with Sauron. Oneplus 3t.
[Android Software Development] GreekPilot:
Any suggestions for HTC U11?

SAINUR or NARSIL?

I am not an expert, so I am a little bit confused here.
[Android Software Development] 64ashg:
i would, keeping all the variables constants (more on that later), say sauron had a more warmer sound signature while narsil has a more stereophonic and wider sound signature with more significant separation of sound sources.

my setup,

oneplus 3t running nlos 16.0 (basically los that you run too, i have seen you in the thread),

ddc purebass +3db

convolver purebass +3db & clearaudio+ 70

3.5mm earphone: sony mdr-155ap

test track: one track mind - chromeo (320kbps, 48khz mp3)

running stock los music app with v4a 2.7.1.0 and aml 2.4

i would say use narsil + v4a if you want a more defined sound with clearer highs and lows.

sauron +v4a if you are looking just for stronger bass.

'But that's like just my opinion man' with my cheap setup. even me with a openback headphone and flac files to test might give you a different recommendation, someone with the said setup would definitely say something different.

pick a track and test the hell out of it. its subjective at this point and you wouldn't be wrong either way. but use sauron or narsil with v4a. its way better than stock.

PS 3t has a great jack which could drive much heavier headphones and its dac was one of the only things, out of the chipset, which was of flagship grade back then. It was one of the very few things oneplus gave which was of flagship grade, until they didn't.
[Android Software Development] ThaBlacMamba:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

My phone doesn't have sound with Narsil. Im on the Samsung Galaxy S7 snapdragon g930p with g930u firmware. Here are my logs. Also, if anyone else can help it would be much appreciated.
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Does Narsil require AML to work with V4A?
[Android Software Development] 64ashg:
i haven't tried without aml, but it does work with aml
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

First I removed Sauron and AML from Magisk and rebooted, then flashed Narsil and AML in Magisk and rebooted. Both installs were successful. Now I'm getting this "Dirac Control Service has stopped" popup error message every ~5 seconds. The only other sound mod I have installed is V4A 2.7.

Mi A1 (Stock 8.1) Magisk 19.2

Logcat: https://pastebin.com/VakbjtM8
[Android Software Development] vinoxflame:
try removing all the soundmod modules again (narsil, viper and aml) and disable dirac. then install the 3 mods again 1 by 1
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
make catlog logs
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Closely study UO - device section
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
I set true for dirac if that's what you mean, but it didn't help.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
get debug log & catlog then
[Android Software Development] ThaBlacMamba:
How do I do that?
[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
Simplest way get matlog from Play Store. Beyond that Google is your friend. Try 'logcat Android' for starters.
[Android Software Development] flitzz:
TWRP installation error:2, Samaung Note 8 N950F
[Android Software Development] ThaBlacMamba:
Assuming im able to get both copies working on my snapdragon samsung galaxy s7 which version would be better for my phone? Sauron or Narsil?
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
Did you at least read the uo and try the fix ?
[Android Software Development] ThaBlacMamba:
Yeah it didn't work.

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[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] Here are my catlogs.

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Apparently its too big. Here is the link. The file will be deleted after its downloaded if anyone other than [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] wants to view it to help let me know.

https://file.io/NyQXUd
[Android Software Development] elraffa:
how can I download narsil mod? I can't find download link and magisk module neither

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[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
Bottom of the 3rd post
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Attached. During logcat this error appeared twice. I performed this installation with DIRAC_KEEPEFF=true, the same happens with keeping it empty.
[Android Software Development] Aisfkhan:
How do i know it's working or not?

Im using htc U11..

And does it make no delay on Bluetooth audio when playing GameS?
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
send your build prop & all audio_effect configs files
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Added push notifications to ainur website - those who are interested in getting updates can signup (ublock origin and other blockers might block it, so it's your choice to whitelist or not). Thread will be updated too. Magisk repo will be pushed after a while.
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Where are the audio effect configs located?
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
Hello I have question .. Narsil work with Viper?

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[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
in system & vendor /etc
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Okay thanks, will do. Do you need them with or without Narsil installed?
[Android Software Development] elraffa:
I´ve installed narsil in a fresh rom Miui 10.3.2 EU android pie (device xiaomi redmi note 6 pro) and it works great, is very noticeable the sound diference. But when I install v4a and aml modules from magisk, after restart I enable v4a and it breaks the sound, with a worse quality sound and a low volumen level. Is it compatible with viper4android?
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
View attachment 4768301

[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] here is an audio_effect.conf in My Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910C) with V4A from Magisk repo, Dolby and Ainur Sauron

**Edit** I flashed in TWRP and then error : 2 , after reboot V4A it's seem might be broken and V4A always ask install driver and sound lower than normally as i expect. Install failed but Ainur Nasil appear on Magisk Module but doesn't give any infomation or version and author who created this module
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Your magisk seem to be f**ed up - fully reinstall new one
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
hahaha i liked your comment. and thanks a lot, i will try it!!

so i will wait to download from magisk repo. if it can worked i will tell to you
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Anyway, here they are. Inside the zip are your requested files for both setups - with and without Narsil.
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] this is an error log from Recovery

View attachment 4768826
[Android Software Development] ls117:
This mod is NOT a placebo by any means. I listened to songs before and after I flashed the zip. Before they didn't sound as loud and clear, thats without and without v4a active. Afterwards everything sounds better with or without v4a, but obviously much better with v4a. The final form would be including dolby, but atmos doesn't work with 8.1 on axon 7 anymore, hasn't been updated I believe.

Only weird thing was I had a bootloop, turned my phone off and on, and it booted properly. Ainur was installed and AML detected the updated Ainur during its install. No issues.
[Android Software Development] ISoreo:
Finally it's Worked!!!!

Thanks a lot Mr. [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] for an advice i reflashed new rom and Magisk and finally Narsil is appear on my Device!!!
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
Narsil & Viper ...WoooW

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[Android Software Development] LASERBEEMS:
Partcyborg, I need your help. I'm using your ROM for the G950U and the combination BL from jrkruse's EDL root method. I tried to flash the Sauron mkIII zip using flash fire (I tried with safestrap first but it gets an error when it says its doing bootloader stuff and cancels the flash.) Flashing with flash fire will run the entire process but when it reboots it says "This device has been flashed with unauthorized software and has been locked." I reboot to download mode and reflash the combo bootloader V5 (from jrkruse) with Odin and it boots again but Supersu is gone :crying: I tried a second time after starting the entire root process over again and wiping all my data (now I know about backups) but the same thing happened again. From your comments on this thread it looks like you know how to get this to work. Did you ever get mk III to work on your ROM or did you stick with mk II?
[Android Software Development] Tyakrish:
Thanks for the insight on this... Though you are right, it is subjective...

I am guessing, Narsil would do wonders on an OEM stock ROM having its own audio effects, but a custom ROM wouldn't have that much effect, especially if their proprietary sound effects are already stripped out ...
[Android Software Development] akiwiz:
Did you change anything in the Narsil config file or just flashed?
[Android Software Development] 64ashg:
yeah, and my opinion was purely based on sauron 03/05 release instead of 27/05. i flashed 27/05 on my setup and there was barely any perceivable difference, at least in my cheapo setup..
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
Only flash my friend

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[Android Software Development] r2ur_go:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

Still the same problem installing on the HTC U12+
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
With twrp and Magisk can't install
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
Same problem with my U11 ,he said should be fixed in next update ?
[Android Software Development] elraffa:
narsil and v4a v2.7 works great, the best combo

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[Android Software Development] mamamume:
Hello everyone. I've installed the module on my LG v30, everything works flawless. Only "issue" the volume is too high. Any suggestions
[Android Software Development] adame09:
Which one did you flash?
[Android Software Development] mamamume:
The latest one. I do love the sound of this mod!! I please help me out
[Android Software Development] adame09:
Sauron or narsil?
[Android Software Development] mamamume:
Sauron. The quad dac is also on when I listen to music ?
[Android Software Development] frozenfirevr:
Does it matter if you're already getting a lot better sound?
[Android Software Development] morganpl:
UltraM8 absolutely do not rush you! I respect your work very much, I just wanted to ask if we are talking about days, weeks, months? ;)
[Android Software Development] elraffa:
I'll want to control some sounds settings.. but it works great with new v4a v2.7

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[Android Software Development] Bogdans29:
Have one queston i have installed ainur NERO how i can uninstall it or just install this one...
[Android Software Development] black_file:
Oh jesus christ wtf Nero just regrouped with other in ainur Sauron just uninstall this and install Sauron for some support [emoji6]

Envoyé de mon ONEPLUS A6003 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Android Software Development] Bogdans29:
But how to ununstall it...its not an magisk module i downloaded zip from forum and i installed it directly from TWRP...
[Android Software Development] frozenfirevr:
Try flashing the same ZIP again?
[Android Software Development] nietzsche_01:
Hi guys,

I have tried Narsil on my Lg v20 Oreo w Mk2000 v2.1 kernel.

Sorry but it's has some stability problem for now... The problems are: sometimes not detect headset entirely, creating sound only in one channel (left), high impedance mode is inactive and so on... Maybe the causes of these problems may be my usage scenario. But i've returned to sauron and problems has gone. Thanks anyway.
[Android Software Development] Bogdans29:
Tryes nothing same..
[Android Software Development] FullWipe:
I installed the Ainur Sauron module and everything seems to work.

I have only one doubt....should i uninstall/freeze the Dirac service?

My device is Oneplus 6T with stock rom/kernel + Magisk.

Do you recommend using a custom kernel for better audio performance? (I thought of the Holy Dragon Kernel)

Thanks for support ?
[Android Software Development] 64ashg:
yeah, stop using dirac for starters. then look into installing v4a and aml.

also try out ainur narsil instead of sauron

edit: by stop, i mean disable dirac and related services..
[Android Software Development] Sukhwinder449:
I flashed Narsil with uo and set Bit setting to 24. After flashing and when playing music it still shows 16 bit in terminal. Tried both dumpsys and tinymix commands to check bitrate. Only USB audio is shown as 24bit.

I use 3.5 mm jack Sennheiser CX213 earphones btw.

How to confirm that bitrate setting is working as an expected?
[Android Software Development] Amd4life:
How do you set the bit rate? This would be awesome
[Android Software Development] Sukhwinder449:
In user options files for Narsil.
[Android Software Development] Amd4life:
Whoa I missed that option. Thanks
[Android Software Development] Sukhwinder449:
Glad to help. If this works out for you please share. I want it working so badly on my phone. There's another 24bit sound mod from my kernel developer but I want systemless version of Narsil one to work first.

The kernel patch modifies vendor partition on my phone so I'm hoping Narsil option works for me instead. 24bit sound is definitely more warm and rich compared to 16bit.
[Android Software Development] Bogdans29:
What ia beter narsil or sauron?
[Android Software Development] tsalta:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

I have question about the MOD.

I report that V1 for M8 is working properly, but for example most of the latest ROM`s for the M8 are FULL port of the HTC 10 the base the Sense also the HTC with the Boom Sound, so my question do you think that we can use as well V4 for HTC 10 ? Since the AcoustiX is again made for the HTC 10 and the Dolby Presets are made to work with HTC 10 Dolby Boom Sound and all is working properly i think that the MOD for HTC 10 V4 have to work as well and maybe will be better option? if is not specific DAC Hardware related.

Its seems like for even better optimization i have to have Patched asound conf (for using with Acoustix) and all other components from the HTC 10 MOD just without the DAC related so a hybrid version for the M8 Users who use HTC 10 Ports and AcoustiX together.

Thank you in advance
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Never looked into ports mixer - that is the main thing here, all other stuff might/will work i guess)
[Android Software Development] tsalta:
So what you can recomend in this case? to use some of the files made for HTC 10 that will work better together with AcoustixX and HTC 10 Dolby Boom? or to flash the Whole V4 but i can have problems with the DAC related files.

Why im saying this is because when i now listen using the AcoustiX presets in the Boomsound i have over BASS issue maybe the files in M8 version as not optimased the way like for M10 woth AcoustiX?

Just ask for suggestion to make the things even better.

Thanks
[Android Software Development] DrugsBunny:
I installed the lg g5 version but can't really tell a difference how can I check it installed properly? I have root and also flashed zero 29 I didn't get an option for HTC 10 then installed the lg atlant

As far as I can tell it installed and everything works fine I just don't know if there's a difference lol
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
If you have a lg don't flash acoustix v29. It won't work with lg since it now just a modded Dolby config, which your phone doesn't has. Also there won't be any other phone to choose while installation because it is only made for HTC 10 or HTC 10 ported Roms to either HTC one m8/m9 which has HTC voomsound with Dolby audio
[Android Software Development] DrugsBunny:
So install the v28 version?
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yes. But skip then every other option. Choose the third one, which is for m9 and 10 and skip the other things.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
I recommend using a proper version for your phone) U still can do further investigation on your own. I can't tell if u can install htc10v4 on m8 with a specific rom - since i don't have the device to check issues. Acoustix is now just a tweaked dolby EQ, so forget about it.
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
For nexus 6p should I first flash AcoustiX_Audio_ZeroInfinity_v29.zip and then atlant 6p?
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
No, you have to flash v28 if you still have the zip. If not just flash Atlant v29 won't work for you or any other phone except htc 10 or m9/m8 with full htc boomsound with Dolby
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
Tried but phone not booting up
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
are you running a Nougat rom, or still marshmallow?

because flashing acoustix won't really fix that... if you run a nougat rom, it seems to be not compatible for now. you can read in OP too that nougat has some changes to audio.
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
No I am on marshmallow
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
could be incompatibility with the rom you are using. backup your current rom, if you already reflashed it, then clean flash the rom and try again. if still bootloop, name the rom you are using and maybe [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] can take a look into. other than that i can't help anymore
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
it is UltraM8 buddy ;)

Anyways, I tried Atlant for OP3 on a Nougat ROM and it worked good I can verify that, no bootloops or stutters or anything
[Android Software Development] yung40oz84:
Is there any way you can make a viper zip compatible with your mods, for Android N? Most the viper zips I've had add some junk or end up not working and I really want to try this with a working viper, thanks in advance
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yes man sorry as you know, I had not much sleep xD
[Android Software Development] danial.aw:
Hello just wondering the Atlant G2 version would be compatible with G3... Or am I better off with the Pandora...
[Android Software Development] Hopie:
on htc 10 kronos 4 with accustix 28

or kronos 4 with accustix 29?
[Android Software Development] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
flash kronos v4 at first then v29
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
Kronos ?
[Android Software Development] Bogdans29:
Myb its joke but myb its not do you jave a limk ?
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

Has my input been helpful in any way ? Have you had the chance to look at my logs and files and perhaps understand better than me what is the problem?

I'm happy to provide any more information you require.
[Android Software Development] elraffa:
does anyone have safetynet problems after narsil installation?View attachment 4771515

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[Android Software Development] FullWipe:
No problem here with latest Magisk.

Try to update Magisk.
[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
Andùril

(The real answer is whichever works better for you. There is no single answer)
[Android Software Development] Keule-Tm:
No, no, most certainly it's Glamdring. That's even better than Orcrist, IMHO.
[Android Software Development] Mark_Draconian:
Probably a stupid question, but Sauron MK III can work together with Narsil, or should i choose one of those to work alone?

Thanks!