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[Android Software Development] wawanRedblack:
Waiting still waiting ???
[Android Software Development] gehess:
Whatcha waitin' fer? There's no bus! :laugh:
[Android Software Development] Daveaspec:
sorry...difference between Sauron and Narsil?
[Android Software Development] gehess:
As I understand it, Narsil removes any software audio settings/effects from your device so you're just left with the sound as produced by your device's hardware only, while Sauron modifies the existing software audio settings for your device to produce a more balanced sound.

As for which is better, hopefully you can see they're two very different things with two very different results, and only you can hear what you prefer on your device.
[Android Software Development] drorcun:
Android 10 please..

Redmi Note 4 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Android Software Development] Daveaspec:
currently I have installed sauron via the magisk module, so:

I remove the module magisk,

reboot,

enter in twrp,

i install zip narsil and reboot , right?

to reinstall sauron if narsil does not satisfy me, how do I uninstall it? re flash the narsil zip?

thank you very much
[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
You can reflash or you can remove it via Magisk Manager, same as Sauron. It installs as a Magisk module, just not currently in the download section.
[Android Software Development] DimitrisVerlis:
Hello, I gave the xiaomi Mi 8, on the first miui 11 China beta roms with Android q Jamesdsp worked PERFECTLY, after updating on the first October update jamesdsp just broke, I tried everything on 3 Xiaomi Mi 8 with MIUI 11 Beta and Android Q but jamesdsp just crashing. Every other sound mod just is dead.
[Android Software Development] DimitrisVerlis:
Is there any working mod for Android Q similar to Jamesdsp?
[Android Software Development] redsun_ravi:
link not working

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VIPER4ANDROID
[Android Software Development] кто я:
Hello, will support meizu pro 6 plus?:confused:
[Android Software Development] Keule-Tm:
Have you tried?
[Android Software Development] кто я:
The loader is blocked only through the terminal ! Asking for help?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
What loader is blocked?

What has it to do with a terminal? You have to provide more information, device, android version, rooting method/version, TWRP version and if it has to do something with a terminal did you enter any commands?

We're talking about an audio mod that has to be flashed through magisk manager (normally).

I don't understand what a "loader" or a terminal has to do with it.
[Android Software Development] кто я:
Yes
[Android Software Development] Keule-Tm:
So?
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
I got a question for you sound mod guys. I bought a Fiio X5iii and it comes with a fiio Music app that had viper4android built into the app. I ran a log cat and to my surprise it said SQ driver with viper 2.5.0.4 app integrated into the fiio music app. We have a working TWRP 2.8.5 and Root with SuperSU. On my mission to install the real viper because the fiio music app is missing Headphone surround sound and wont play viper through the system with other apps. I have been flashing and trying anything I can think of. With only bluetooth able to get working. This morning however I seen your Ainur audio mod was Supersu supported but it wouldn't flash in twrp so I thought what the hell can I do. I flashed it using a new version of smart pack its like kernel auditor remade. Then I copied the audio_config policy and audio_effects.config files from my nexus 6 that I had on lollipop with viper and Magisk. It worked I can get viper working flashing your zip and replacing the files with my nexus 6 lollipop files. I cant get magisk to work on the FIIo believe me I tried. I flashed everyone from 12-20.1 and all bootloop or wont flash. However I dont want to replace the files on my fiio because there high res libs or something the sound is a little muddy now. Do you have any idea what might be stopping viper from installing and working regular or anything. I can get you copies of the audio_config files if you want. Thanks

I forgot im on 5.1.1 android. Pretty basic it does have music FX app into system along with the fiio music apk in system. Ive copied the apk if you want. Cause it could actually make viper work without root on devices if you can get it to work with other androids it wont play when I install it on my S7 or any other device.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Try to find the viper apk in the rom first. Then give the try to put the .bak extention to the apk, so that becomes unusable by system, reboot and then try to install viper from xda. I don't think you'd be able to just replace the apk from xda to system. Also mind that built-in viper might be deeply integrated (hopefully not, but who knows) with music app/framework/whatnot.
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
I got it to work I took audio_config policy file from nexus 6 on lollipop so it would match and copied and pasted works like a charm with the fiio app or without. They have had this device for 2 years and no one could figure it out I had it 1 week now and go it. I still want magisk. Viper works so much better with the IRS files with magisk. You can even listen to them without it they just ruin sound. I thought everyone was smoking crack about IRS files being good. They sound like crap 99 percent of the time. It does make sense to make a file thats right channel surround sound really whos going to listen to that? I want clear vocals , clear clean bass lower than the vocals I like vocals over top of the bass.
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
You may be correct that a lot of the irs files sound crazy but I've found one or two that I can't live without anymore, it's just like the cherry on the cake. There are a lot of different headphones and devices out there and maybe there's only one file matching for one combination and a lot are superfluous anyway.

I have a folder with over 200 irs files but only 2 of them make it on my device.

I'm still on Viper4Android FX 2.5.0.5 legacy because on the newer 2.7.1.0 version my personal irs doesn't sound as it should.

But good to hear you got it working at all on your fiio!
[Android Software Development] shajman:
Any 9T Pro / Xiaomi Narsil Users?

Hey guys. I installed Narsil recently on my rooted Mi 9T Pro Global (running the latest 11.0.1 Stable - Android 10) . I'm assuming it is working as the regular Xiaomi sound profile section seems to be missing.

However I have a question regarding the 'Hi-Fi audio' option in settings. Do I leave it on or off to take advantage of Narsil. Also, does this option do what Narsil basically does?

Any Xiaomi users here who might know?
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
install only narsil and viper4android. the best option

Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Android Software Development] shajman:
I had a really bad experience with Viper4Android.

Had it installed on my phone before the Android 10 update. After it wasn't working. So I decided to uninstall via Magisk.

Restarted my phone and it kept going into fastboot. Had to install the rom via fastboot. Really scared about suffering thru that again.

Any ideas about the Hi-Fi audio option?
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
I agree theres about 3-4 IRS files I cant live without myself. Surround 7.1 and LFE , Sony Xperia Rev2 Clearbass Z-edition,

TubeAmplifier Extreme V.1, and A DTS 48k Z-edition. Theres a couple that are ok but im not going to choose them over the ones I just named. I paid the 10 dollars for z-edition just for the Sony Xperia REv2 clearbass and it became my favorite with bluetooth. Its great you can shut off any bass options in viper and use that Irs file and it gives you the cleanest bass I ever heard if its working right on my FIIO it doesnt sound so good. It was worth the 10 bucks.
[Android Software Development] autofreak47:
audiosphere or shoebox?

Can anyone suggest me which driver I should opt between audiosphere and shoebox? Currently running on fmas, audiosphere which was pre-installed on android pie crdroid, v4a and aml. Also how can I disable audiosphere which is already pre-installed? P.S Sorry for my bad English.
[Android Software Development] joho500:
Do I understand right that Android 10 is not supported by Sauron?
[Android Software Development] dyval:
Yup. Narsil is what seems to be compatible with Android 10. I'm using it on my OP6T.
[Android Software Development] dpaine88:
How is it? I have sauron on my OP6T but didn't realize it wasn't working haha

How's it play with viper?
[Android Software Development] dyval:
Works good with Viper + Dolby Atmos
[Android Software Development] KUSOsan:
I paid for the package awhile back and all I have is the regular clearbass that doesn't say rev2. Where'd you get that one?
[Android Software Development] Z-Blade:
would it make sense to use both Narsil and Sauron together?
[Android Software Development] yyz71:
Nope
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
Its funny because I cant remember because its not in the xperia 44k or 48k folders. Its on my phone under z-edition and I cant remember I think it was in another one of the zips he emails you. Its the best the only one I use anymore. For every device I even gave it to my dad and he loves it to.

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Dude I just went through the zips he sends and I can't find it. I can't remember now how I got it. But thats crazy because it was the reason I bought it because he has a youtube video using it and I wanted it. Whats your email?

I figured it out someone took and redid his clearbass file and then put it out online. Thats what open source is all about its free if you add a line of code and put your name on someone else's work. LOL Then you get pissed saying they stole your work. Open source is legal copying everyone needs to get over it. Search google you should find it.
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
Guys best UO for snapdragon 835 Xiaomi mi6? Thank you

Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
I figured it out someone took and redid his clearbass file and then put it out online. Thats what open source is all about its free if you add a line of code and put your name on someone else's work. LOL Then you get pissed saying they stole your work. Open source is legal copying everyone needs to get over it.

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YOU think you could make your member Icon any bigger? LOL
[Android Software Development] KUSOsan:
Thanks for info. I've had the best luck so far with the SRS series convolvers (mainly srs1_1) but I like to try new ones every now and then since I have like 200 to pick from
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
Well I have over 1200 if you need ive tried all of them to theres about 20 that sound normal. Put like previously stated when you find one that works it is the icing on your cake. I have just found out they do that for windows programs to like Maxx Audio has Irs files but there like 60 bucks. I personally think the Sony Xperia rev 2 clearbass is the best. It adds great deep bass without distortion and which then I can turn off the regular bass or dynamic bass and get a very clean sounding bass. You can add more bass which is cool cause it sounds like you have subs in your ears but I dont like that much bass to listen to music. Of course more important then anything is the headphones. Even though viper does make cheap headphones sound good its still not as good as a good pair.
[Android Software Development] Daveaspec:
Sauron don't work in Android10?

Narsil works fine?
[Android Software Development] _genevera:
Nsrsil link on first page 404s
[Android Software Development] hpto:
Hi. My device is a Mi 9 running Miui 10 Pie global stock. I've flashed AML and Ainur James DSP from Magisk repo, but seems don't work. James DSP force closes everytime I try to open.

This mod is Miui compatible? Any solution? Tk so much!
[Android Software Development] webore:
It crashes on my OnePlus7T too .

It says the app is designed for older Android .
[Android Software Development] SatanicShanker666:
What's up with narsil? Link dead. Apologies if this has been noted, but I read through multiple pages and used search.

Edit: If some one could paste the Narsil.zip, that would be greatly appreciated
[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
I mirrored Narsil, at least for the moment. That's the latest zip.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261691953
[Android Software Development] autofreak47:
can anyone recommend which is better between (sauron+v4a) and (sauron+v4a+dolby)?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
My experience: On Nougat ROMs Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos (Lenovo version) is really cool, for Oreo Viper4Android in combination with Sauron gives me the best sound. But especially in cases of audio the preferences are very different so try what's the best combination for you.

Dolby has a bigger impact to the sound than Sauron but not everyone likes that.
[Android Software Development] mido hamdy:
after testing both sauron and narsil in two different devices, I love the sound quality of narsil more.

anyone like me?
[Android Software Development] Kachow51:
where can I download for my essential phone
[Android Software Development] Iustin_Theft-07:
You made me curious about this irs. Where can I find it ? It's not found just by googling that's for sure...
[Android Software Development] Adamk102:
Please guys, I search any good profile for jamesDSP

Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Android Software Development] KUSOsan:
I found it by googling the exact name he posted. It was one of the first 5 results
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15NHk_mIHt9haKOZBMpS-Bo-iAc0iG7XV/view?usp=sharing

There its not 1 of z-edition its on google search. I think someone redid it and put it out there. I went through all the zips its not on his zips. So here you guys go. I turn off all other bass when using it but try it out see what you think. Dont except miracles on 20 dollar earbuds you cant think there meant to drive heavy bass.

Tell me what you think and be honest its not my work and It doesnt hurt my feelings to say I think it sucks I didnt get much off it. I use Oreo and up devices It works great with viper 2.3.4 as user or system app but IRS files can be funny with magisk and the audio comp zip Ive never had any problems. On android 5 with supersu its not as good not bad but not great.

My other IRS of choice. Gets really loud turn off gain first. Its sounds better than DOLBY

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WT1y5jKyqiNdxDsVSDMrp8zlB-aFauZ1/view?usp=sharing

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Just in case you audio guys are wondering on the best bluetooth audio. I got the powerbeats pro and the sennheiser momentum wireless. If you dont have viper 4 android the Sennheiser offer more bass but if you do use viper I say hands down the powerbeats pro. They sound exactly the same except the sennheisers have more bass but they also only last 3-4 hours and the powerbeats pros last at least 8 Ive never killed them in a listening session. After 4 hours theres still at like 50 or 60 percent. I was really surprised sennheiser is usually the winner. I say this because youtube is filled with guys that a payed or given free stuff by the company and there not going to ever tell you the truth ever. Powerbeats pros also are sweat resistance and hold a charge. Again if you dont have your sennheisers on the charger youll find them dead after 1 day even if there were 100 percent it sucks.
[Android Software Development] ShadoV90:
[MENTION=9180355]Techguy777[/MENTION]

That 7.1 + LFE irs looks for me like typical "sharp" filter or between sharp and slow, and have nothing to do with surround or spatial sound. It isn't even full stereo irs (LL, LR, RL, RR)

Second thing it's like +18dB above digital "0" so if someone have no digital volume reduction, then most likely it will cause big distortion and that's good that you mention it.
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
What did you use to do those graphs? I didnt make the IRS file I dont know who did. I just download and try it. But In all honesty I have about 10 or more dolby irs files and they are supposed to be surround and there not as good as this. I use that IRS for bluetooth mainly. As wired headphones with viper have more then enough sound or volume level. Sometimes a bit much. However bluetooth is just a little weak if it could jump about 20 percent higher it would be great. Like slight gain 0db reduction inf setting on wired is all I ever need however with bluetooth I have to use full extreme gain with to get the same volume level as wired headset. But I like it I dont care if its not named right it works great with headphone surround level 3 with powerbeats pro or 3.

I just dont know I kinda believe what your saying but when you listen to it the sound seems more surround it does. Most of the surround options or irs files arent like real surround obviously there all effects to mimic it. What should an IRS file look like for true surround and can you provide one for us to compare?

I dont even know what those pictures are showing it looks like lines to me. You guys gotta explain things. I know on XDA no one ever admits they dont know something they say look it up and pretend to know however im different I dont know alot of things. If those are supposed to be frequencies then what you have a program that measures IRS files some how? Thats cool can you share it?

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DID you do the Sony Xperia REv 2 clearbass to? How did that look? Was it correct? If there is something to see how these things sound or whatever you think so many of them wouldn't suck. How about the VDC files I got a few pairs of headphones that are supposed to match the file and they suck also. They make the headphones sound wimpy and I dont know what there going for I really dont. It sounds like there underwater or something and why is it that every pair sounds different if there supposed to correct the sound they should all sound similar after correcting the imperfections.

Let me load up the one for My FIO FH5s there wav irs files or something but again they sound wimpy.

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You got me going now do you use viper with a real stereo? When you say there not even stereo im thinking well sound comes out of both speakers on headphones. So they aint mono. If you play it through a 7.1 surround home theater system I dont know. What all channels dont play? Im real interested to hear more.
[Android Software Development] ShadoV90:
I am opening irs files with audacity. Because irs file is just audio file. WAV or something.

IRS file which can be use to spatialize sound must simulate reverb, delay and/or crossfeed.

Because when you are hear something in your right, both ears are hearing that sound but your right ear hear it louder and sound arrive to that ear a little faster. Our brain is doing rest of the work in order to localize where that sound were.

That's why full stereo IRS must contain 4 channels.

This is example of 4-channel IRS created by Joe0Bloggs.

In zip folder you have this IRS in 44.1kHz and 48kHz version.

There's one more type of IRS used by HeSuVi (only used in windows) to emulate full surround sound. These files contains 14 channels.
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6wDLZpPr4y_k9LTqx4BydFWnDEcCLU2/view?usp=sharing

These are for the Sennheiser IE60s and Fiio FH5s and Ill say it again I dont understand what the person is going for because they just drop the sound off so much you can barely hear it. It doesnt make any sense to me. Anyone can lower distortion by cutting volume down thats easy just turn it down. But it also messes up the sound to me. I don't get it. No one would say viper 4 android sucks so we all dont have that different of sound signatures. When they say this pair of headphones sounds bright or warm those descriptions are sales pitches because it makes it sound good even if by bright you mean there stretchy and high pitched to much treble and warm might mean to much bass they override the vocals. The whole audiophile thing has really screwed peoples thinking. Most people think loud clear music with good bass is great. Im one of those.
[Android Software Development] autofreak47:
Thank you sir for your response. Also do you know how to disable/uninstall Audiosphere drivers pre-installed , since I want to try shoebox effect? (btw I'm running on crDroid Pie)
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
I never did that but I would think it should be enough to set SHB to "true" in sauron_useroptions, Audiosphere should be disabled then. But I'm not sure, maybe one of the devs like [MENTION=6037748]Zackptg5[/MENTION] or [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] should answer this.
[Android Software Development] autofreak47:
Will try to set true for SHB and see if Audiosphere will be disabled, Thank you again for the response sir. Any further help regarding this would be helpful [MENTION=6037748]Zackptg5[/MENTION] [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION].
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
Well I dont have graphs I just go by my ears and what I like and dont like. If an IRS file sounds good with headphones thats what im going to say. I just tried the Joe0Bloggs 3d headphones surround upmix and the Joe0bloggs spatializer efo-f2. I tried both the 44k and the 48ks all 4 irs files. I find theres a wide sound like a hall effect that sounds unnatural. The surround 7.1 I recommend fills headphones better and it sounds a little loud but its more natural sounding while still feeling surround. Guys music isnt about graphs and frequency music is simple do you like the sound or not. I stand by my favorite is still clearbass rev 2. Have you tried it what do you think?

I get it the big guys like the frequency responses but at the end of the day if you have better speakers or drivers in your headphones guess which ones sound better? I like my Fiio Fh5s but im sure the shure 846 are cleaner and better you dont need a vdc file or irs at least you shouldnt that would be stupid to think someone is going to make a 1000 headphones sound better with a file.

I have 3 pairs of sennheiser that have vdc files built in viper4android. They do not improve sound in my ears. They sound flat and weak and its not like im just hating I would love to be like damn these things are sick sounds amazing. I know why they say if you dont like it something is wrong with your ear shape because most people will not like it and they know that.
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
I live in America and in America we got a special type of audiophile. They have 1200 watt subs in there 500 dollar cars. You can hear them coming down the street or feel them if your outside. They get out of there vehicle and the doors open theres no music or lyrics its just bass I kid you not these guys are all over my town in the country they think there keeping it gangster. They honestly think that sounds good. You can have that I want a nice clear system like bose or something. I dont understand it. LMAO