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[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Arise core will conflict with Sauron sfx bundle
[Android Software Development] gitzolinick:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] i would like to ask you which, in your experience, is the best audiophile phone. I remember you have a m9 as daily driver. I need to buy a second phone and i read enthusiastic reviews about Axon 7 and Htc 10's audio quality but you said perhaps a well tuned htc 10 can even sound better than the fabulous Axon 7. Thanks for your attention, have a nice day :)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Yeah, why not axon7 with it's DAC.
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
So is it better to unninstall Arise core?
[Android Software Development] gitzolinick:
I just remembered once you said that it's unuseful to have a high level DAC if you cannot tune it (you was talking about Axon 7 compared to htc 10 that actually could sound really well with Nero ) So i was doubting. Thanks for you answer, i will consider your suggestion for the final choice.

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Yes, you really don't need it. Absolutely.
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
Thanks buddy
[Android Software Development] yung40oz84:
This **** sounds so good. Using Ahrion's deep buffer remover and his viper and the sound is amazing with this!
[Android Software Development] ToxxMe:
Same configuration here. Quiet brilliant :good:
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
Anyone with SIM card boot error please state your device name.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Nexus 6p with magisk and it happens only when flashing arkamys module with sauron but udbremover works fine with it.
[Android Software Development] tidusdacapo:
Sauron is good, but I also need Arise core to enable hi-res output on Poweramp...:( As Poweramp alpha is now the only one for bypassing Android audio 48000hz SRC
[Android Software Development] Der_Meister01:
Try foobar2000, its sound way better than Poweramp to me and has High res support and a nice resampler up to 92khz.

But I didn't try Poweramp 3 yet
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
You need only one prop key for doing that:

ro.lenovo.hifi_support true
[Android Software Development] tidusdacapo:
This arise my interest:laugh:

How can I enable this?
[Android Software Development] ToxxMe:
By adding to system/build.prop with text-editor. Save file, reboot, profit!
[Android Software Development] tidusdacapo:
OK, I'll try it later:good:
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
What music player do you use and recommend if you don't mind me asking. I use Neutron music player because of the high quality audio and the 64 bit processing. I'm not sure if a certain music player might work better than Neutron because of how the code has been done. Thanks.
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
I'm using Neutron Music Player, is foobar2000 better then Neutron?
[Android Software Development] Der_Meister01:
Neutron has an amazing equalizer. If you need one Neutron is better. Foobar has a different sound than Neutron, its clearer. Also foobar is free so just give it a try and decide yourself
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
I love to hear that foobar2000 have clearer sound! I'm will definitely try it! Thanks for answer.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I don't care much about the equaliser. By clearer sound what do you mean? Is the sound you hear actually better in your opinion or just different? Thanks.
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
[MENTION=7544785]Der_Meister01[/MENTION] I tried foobar2000, but it can't play OPUS files, while Neutron can. I'll try older version of foobar to see does it works.
[Android Software Development] ToxxMe:
Poweramp is my favorite choice :good:
[Android Software Development] Der_Meister01:
I have foobar 1.0.63 and it plays OPUS without problems. Just downloaded a test file

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I wouldn't say one of them sounds better.

On my m8 without ainur Neutron sounded better, but with it I prefered foobar because the sound was clearer. However there were some bands I prefered with Neutron because it sounds warmer. On my HTC10 i only use foobar, because everythibg sounds perfect with it.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Okay cool thanks. Do you by any chance listen to rap music and if so do you have a preference? I don't have time or headphones with me to test which is why I'm asking. Thanks.
[Android Software Development] Der_Meister01:
Rock, Metal, Folk and Classic

But Gangsters Paradise has a bit deeper bass with Neutron
[Android Software Development] SkaboXD:
Gangsters Paradise by Coolio?
[Android Software Development] Der_Meister01:
Yeah
[Android Software Development] ebrijesh:
Hi,

The first image ainur as a magisk module.

Is it magisk or only have to flash via TWRP only?
[Android Software Development] ebrijesh:
Oops image attached as shown on page 206.View attachment 4175295
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
Will be fixed in next update.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Not sure what you mean. We recommend flashing in TWRP but it may work by installing through magisk manager
[Android Software Development] ToxxMe:
Nope, don't work. Always flashable via recovery ;)
[Android Software Development] jochem86:
Nexus 6P (Angler) on Latest DU 11.5 Official, full clean install (format data), with magisk V13. it wont boot up... and i have to format data to get my sim working again.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Only v12 is supported at the moment. You can always just flash magisk uninstaller zip and then reinstall it instead of formatting data
[Android Software Development] raylogic:
Forgive (or not) my ignorance why no Bluetooth support?
[Android Software Development] ndarkside93:
Bluetooth doesn't go through the standard audio Hal. It's a completely separate audio pathway that isn't affected by the soundfx and audio libs.
[Android Software Development] Ainsley Harriott:
Sauron doesn't work with Miui on MI 5.
[Android Software Development] DroidIt!:
...that sucks. :rolleyes:
[Android Software Development] wohlmart:
Sauron works excellent on my redmi 3s with MIUI and SuperSU, but not with this terrible MIUI stock player, so maybe try another player. The sound is much better and more balanced then the bilt-in Dirac HD.
[Android Software Development] lambroslnk:
Great software, i just installed the Sauron main mod along with Dirac, and the phone speaker has an amazingly increased clarity with no distortion even on hard tracks for the pathetic speaker of Redmi 3s. Great job.

One note, i tried to use the Sauron along with Arkamys mod but Arkamys perma-crashed once booted. Using lineageSU, los13.
[Android Software Development] ToxxMe:
Arkamys will be fixed if UltraM8 has time for it :p Wait for it, too
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Does Dirac make the sound better? How is it compared to just stock Sauron in your opinion?
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
Yes it does. Make a backup then flash it to see for yourself.

Makes everything crispy clear.
[Android Software Development] 24imelqui:
Did someone tried installing Sauron while enabling magisk core mode only? Did it do a system install?
[Android Software Development] veez21:
Magisk core only mode will just skip analyzing the modules. Sauron/Magisk Modules installs when it detects magisk.img. So, it will still install in magisk.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] I just tried Dirac and it causes the same issue as arkamys where I lose magisk root and the sim card stops working.
[Android Software Development] umeshxda:
Breaking ril on magisk v12
[Android Software Development] Sir_gpm:
Amazing setup, just flashed
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
We've fixed it. We'll be updating it soon.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Great to hear. Just wondering as the rom I'm on uses magisk v13 beta whether or not this supports it. Thanks.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
BTW, as you're working on fixing stuff is there a way you could make it so if we have magisk it doesn't take a while on the splash screen to boot up? Or maybe a system version of this for magisk users so we don't have to delete magisk.img thanks a lot.
[Android Software Development] xSilas43:
Hanging on the splash is a device issue, mine loads into magisk instantly. You never have you delete the magisk image, you can uninstall Sauron through the magisk app.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
What I mean is that when this is installed for magisk it has that issue for me. When installing it as if I don't have root it works perfectly fine.
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
Done that too ?
[Android Software Development] ebrijesh:
Hi ,

I wanted to try this mod along with viper on my bacon running latest RR rom.

First I flashed Sauron .it installed successfully.

Then I used two different viper ports ( ahrion and magisk repo one),

But my phone keeps restarting.

Then I reversed the process

Installed viper first manually .

Then Sauron . But still phone keeps restarting.

Just to mention my rom bundled magisk v12 working perfectly as busybox is disabled and I m using art and other android pay mod successfully.

When I install Sauron it does install android runtime mod( ahrion).

I have gone through so many front and last pages of discussion but I can't find any solution.

Can someone guide me.
[Android Software Development] YoGieZ:
this mod compatible with MIUI ROM? (Mi 5)

and rooted SuperSU not Magisk
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Thank ****ing God! That was seriously grinding my gears! I'm not sure if it was just a nexus 6p issue but great to hear that it has been fixed :D

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It should be fine. Supersu works fine with it as it uses a clever script to detect whether you have magisk.img in /data and if you don't then it installs it for supersu. Make a backup before you flash though just incase.
[Android Software Development] tinjaladaniel:
Hi dear,

I would like to take a moment to talk about the sound quality of various smartphones with the use of SAURON.

Can you get out of the charts (of course with our help) where can be retrieved information about SNR, THD+N, dynamic range, etc. ?

I mean, THERE IS A WAY TO EXTRACT THIS DATA FROM OUR PHONES? ... that they are not always our ears :)

This is to have a way of comparing our phones and to be able to target some of us vs smartphones that have good audio output. We know that it is not enough to have a DAC, AMP and sometimes even the manufacturer's software to have a good sound.

Thanks

PS: ... do you already have something in the boiling pot ?, and wait a while to get it out?

PS 2: For example, now with the release of the new smartphones that have as many dedicated audio components with as many interesting data "on paper", someone does not know who to choose and relying on what the producers say ... many many times they are on the TOP OF THE JUNKYARD
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
Any chance we can get a non magisk Dirac installer since it doesn't seem to work with Sauron Magisk?
[Android Software Development] ndarkside93:
They're testing updates which should resolve these issues.
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
Thanks :good:
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
Thats weird, Dirac works for me on Magisk tho
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
So you can use Dirac and Sauron together without Magisk timeout on boot?
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
Yes.. its working great on my end.. what version of magisk are you using?
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
V12
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
No problems on my end mate. i've had problems with v13 but not v12. Though there were some problems early on but managed to figure out that the cause was an outdated apk magisk manager
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
Okay thanks
[Android Software Development] derelicte:
Has anybody tested this on Android O DP3 yet? I'm running the latest SuperSU beta (and have tried the daily Magisk v13) with a certain other audio mod, but it doesn't seem to work.
[Android Software Development] gehess:
So I used the Magisk uninstallers to remove V4A, Atmos, audmodlib and Sauron I.III. Then reflashed my ROM and all was fine.

I then installed Sauron I.IV.I and got a boot loop. And I've tried this twice with Magisk BusyBox enabled and disabled.

So I restored my nandroid backup, tried reflashing my ROM and then uninstalling all my Magisk modules. After installing I.IV.I, still boot loop.

Unless anyone has any suggestions, looks like I'm going to have to clean flash my ROM (AICP on a HTC One M7) and try again, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
Don't use any audio mod on that except EQ but make sure it's an aufiomodlib one.

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Works for some, not for others.. I can't remember why. But it's too do with prop loading. Fixed in coming update.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
v13 magisk fix-build will be here soon
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
Good to know :) but will be staying onv me v12 until v13 is stable :)
[Android Software Development] undopt:
Which order do you flash the zip files?
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
clean flash rom > kernel > gapps > magisk (I usually reboot after this to check if magisk was installed properly and if MagiskSU is working) reboot again to recovery then install Sauron > Dirac > reboot system (It takes about 30-45 seconds on google logo but dont worry it'll boot) if everything else fails (which sometimes does) I get back to recovery and reflash magisk and boot again.
[Android Software Development] dalfshiro:
I have successfully install dirac too..but i cant see diract in my app installed
[Android Software Development] ndarkside93:
It won't be in your app drawer. It's not configurable, it just works in the background.
[Android Software Development] Bob823:
I wonder - has anyone encountered problems with WiFi after flashing Sauron? I recently switched my rom (from PA back to Oxygen OS on a OnePlus 3) and after flashing Sauron I am unable to activate WiFi. The corresponding modules show up in magisk (V12) and are active. After flashing the uninstall zip, WiFi is back again.
[Android Software Development] aki_007:
It's fixed just wait for the update
[Android Software Development] undopt:
How about v4a and udb remover? Have you ever manage to have them work with Sauron? Which flash order you used for that?
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
I dont use v4a cause it sucks my fat butt..

I have udp remover working fine.. I usually flash every module first.. reboot again then fkash sauron, I always flash sauron last then dirac
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Has it been reported that the latest sauron uninstaller doesnt work? Tried in both twrp and flashfire but fails zip verification in both.

Was trying to uninstall sauron so i could test upgrading to magisk v13 beta and noticed it
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Sounds like a bad download. Try redownloading it
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Did that but same result, is there another link other than the one from the OP?
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Can you post recovery log?
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Will the one i still have do or do i need to repeat the process?
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
It's always better to post new one
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Okay, ill have to do it tomorrow now as im on call tonight so need my phone working ?
[Android Software Development] gehess:
I use V4A and Atmos with Sauron. I think I had to remove audmodlib and reinstall it and then install V4A to get it to work.

Still can't get I.IV.I to work though, so I'm using I.III for now until I can clean flash my ROM (which kinda seems to defeat the purpose of using systemless Magisk modules but c'est la vie).
[Android Software Development] LazerL0rd:
Fix coming soon.
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Okay here is my recovery log where I just repeated the process and got the same error. I did do a backup first so there might be additional fluff in the log from that. the good stuff starts at line 63171
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Alright, so the last minor update: MK I.IV.II is here!

The next one MK II will be released when it's done - the all-new Sauron with loads of new features.

I want also to thank Daniel Dumitru Tinjala for donation - thx, bro! I was waiting for someone to do that, so that i can buy hosting & all the stuff needed to start creating website for Ainur Audio. With your support we can go even further now!

Also, we are now running #WallpaperContest!

Here is the deal: You create wallpaper for SAURON. It must be 3200*2560 resolution and being sent here (or 4pda, or telegram chat) with #WallpaperContest hastag message. The winner design will get his wallpaper added to AMOLED mnml wallpaper app & gets a free promotion code for AMOLED mnml XL!

You can use the original logo (grab here) or make your own unique look!

Be creative!
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Hi, is this minor update fixing issues like magisk modules like arkamys not working with sauron and slow Google splash screen times or is that going to be in the major update when it is done? Thanks.
[Android Software Development] phantom146:
I think i'll try that wallpaper contest just for the lols.

But this minor update did you configure anything in the audiomod files/sound lib?
[Android Software Development] RogerF81:
With latest Sauron MK I.V.II, I get no sound on my HTC 10. Previous versions were working well.
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
With Sauron MK.I.IV.II i get post-fs-data timeout early in the the Magisk boot. No boot with this version.

...went back to previous version and all is well again.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
If using magisk 12, create empty file on sdcard called ainur_propcompatibility before flashing sauron
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
I have an issue with the most recent version which is where the phone seems really laggy for a good minute after booting up but is fine when going to the old version.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Nothing in sauron would have caused that. Are you using magisk?
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Yes I am, the issue only started with the newest version.
[Android Software Development] GchildT:
Yep, same result.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Are you on 12 or 13? If on 12, you need to create the ainur_propcompatibility file on sdcard prior to flashing sauron

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Logs?
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Okay thank you. I am on v12. What does creating that file do btw? Does it fix lag and other issues? Also, do the modules still not work with this? Thanks.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Add-ons still need updated but it'll fix possible boot issues
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
Okay great to hear thanks. The file you said to add works fine and fixes my issues.
[Android Software Development] Zackptg5:
Okay everyone, here's a quick summary of new features in the latest Sauron (FAQ will be updated soon):

Prop setting has been updated for magisk 13. If you're still on 12 (as 13 is still very much a beta), you need to create an empty file on root of sdcard called 'ainur_propcompatibility' prior to flashing. This will have the installer use the older method of prop setting.

If you hated waiting on the boot logo with magisk v12 after flashing sauron (this is when all of the files are mounted and stuff), you weren't alone. You can create an empty file on root of sdcard called 'ainur_magiskoverride' prior to flashing. This will have the installer install the files to system instead of magisk (Scripts will still be installed to magisk - won't affect boot time much at all). Note that this will break safetynet (but safetynet has been updated and is already broken for magisk 12 so you have nothing to lose lol).

If you're not using magisk and forgot to remove this file, no worries. The installer will ignore it.

If you're using an unsupported root method such as LOS su or phh superuser, you can create an empty file on root of sdcard called 'ainur_initdoverride' prior to flashing. This will cause the installer to install all scripts to init.d instead of normal root detection. LOS and phh detection is being worked on btw :)

This is for system installs only so if you're using magisk and forgot to remove this file, the installer will ignore it.

Lastly, if you did any of these methods above, keep the file(s) you created on root of sdcard. They are needed for the uninstaller too
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Has the uninstaller been updated as well then? Havent tried the new one yet since the problem i was having with the last one. The order i was going to try was this:

Sauron uninstaller

Magisk uninstaller

Magisk v13 beta install

Sauron install

Arkamys install

I think doing it that way i shouldnt have to worry about creating these additional files?
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
The ainur_propcompatibility isn't necessary for magisk v13 so you can ignore that. Unless you care about passing the safetynet which I don't then I'd still recommend the ainur_magiskoverride as it makes booting a lot faster because of the google splash screen.

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Does this magisk override file work with lots of magisk modules or is it just specific to what was codes for this mod? It'd be great if I could use it for other magisk modules.
[Android Software Development] Bob823:
I'm not losing WiFi with the latest update anymore. Thanks a lot! :good:
[Android Software Development] BodhiBrock:
KRONOS 10 v1 can be flashed over Numbers 3.3 n HTC 10? Is Acoustic compatible flashing it over Numbers 3.3?

Sent from my High Times Cellular 10
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Omg, man you have a beast-audio device. Kronos & Acoustix gives you a full power over it's hardware, but you still need more junk in the system?)) Why?
[Android Software Development] BodhiBrock:
I like to be able to customize my sound for different devices (My car system, my home Klipsch stereo system, my Bose bluetooth speaker, my RHA 750s in-ear phones, and my Audio-Technica m50 headphones) as well as different genres of music. I like your mod, for sure...and I also like ARISE. Plus, I'm sort of a flashaholic. Lol

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Forgot to mention, Acoustix's Dolby always fc's on me.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
No need to flash acoustx dolby if you're on 10))
[Android Software Development] Phrodini:
Flashaholic anonymous is available for just in case

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GL.. I'm on an earlier version of numbers... You went manual on ainur?
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Meh, don't understand what the fuss is about over this hack tip. Did everything as instructed (and more), but the sound sucks.
[Android Software Development] Robot76:
Use your ears, all ears are different, so this might not be for you, check out the Arise sound system thread too, they have 4 different sound systems, and different ears like different ones, some hate some of them and others love them[emoji23]

My ears personally love what Ainur brings to my sound...

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A.R.I.S.E.Numbers™ Z3C SLiMM3 EliteKernelV3 SU2.76 Xf86 Nova Substratum
[Android Software Development] manpildo:
Yeah I am using arise, but I don't get what that hack trick should do because there was a clear downgrade from arise which is full of "junk libs".
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
Why do you have to be so rude?

For a team with one of their main porters who goes to me for help (@UltraM8), you're acting extremely smug.

Just saying.