yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[SuperSU] Mario.D:
Hmm same thing for me...

Just rebooted the phone bequse it felt slow and after the the pokemon wont connect to the server and also the safety net test fail.

Skickat från min E6653 via Tapatalk
[SuperSU] linkultima:
Damn, I though I did something wrong and flashed again my phone just to find our many people are having the same problem as I, safetynet test is failing, even removing SU completely fails when yesterday it did not fail :P
[SuperSU] Ullson:
Even though suhide didnt work before, it now shows the same error message on my phone.

Edit: Sorry, didnt refresh the page and didnt see there were already a lot of answers. (Can I delete this post?)
[SuperSU] s01o:
SafetyNet updated again :(

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongodev/comments/560o9a/safetynet_updated_again/

Seems SafetyNet can detect systemless root (unverified). Both the old Magisk v6 + phh's SuperUser and the new suhide methods are tripping SafetyNet.
[SuperSU] smint86:
Sorry for the offtopic spam, but I think in the end 95% of the people in here are reading this because of PokemonGO. I think Niantic has to make a change. Sign here: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/niantic-allow-legitimate-root-users-to-play
[SuperSU] 4RK4N:
possibly confirm that. tupac4u nougat stock+ october build (debloated + supersu 2.78_sr1) and elementalx kernel, booted and rebooted to recovery, installed suhide 0.53 (also tried flashing suhide right after the kernel without rebooting) and safetynet helper failed.

6 hours ago safetynet helper succeeded and i was able to play.

didnt try the old magisk v6 + phh root v17 way. but looks like thats no good either.
[SuperSU] Nachopincha:
systemless xposed v86.2

Hello, first thank for the support and second to ask if anyone would be so kind as to give me the systemless Xposed v86.2 because I can not find it anywhere! I have a S5 g900f with stock rom 6.0 from already thank you very much and sorry for my English translator haha
[SuperSU] dubear:
if you want it to play pokemon go, you should wait. the latest safetnet update has blocked all known xposed/root methods
[SuperSU] gleggie:
Same thing here, SuHide was working for me, but stopped working this morning. :/

Niantic is such a terrible company
[SuperSU] FreeTheWeb:
Damn not again , i was able to do all r phones 2 s6 edge and a s7 edge to work and now this pff , hope one fix will come quick :)
[SuperSU] SP4MM3R:
anybody know how uninstall xposes systemless 86.2??? the unistaller from topjohnwu dont work without magisk
[SuperSU] henderjr:
Use this one
[SuperSU] MoistPicklez:
Signed! :highfive:
[SuperSU] Dalamar666:
someone knows... if I unninstall xposed (systemless), magisk and supersu (phh+suhide), and then I flash the latest october room, I could pass safetynet? Nexus 5 xTraFactory

thanks
[SuperSU] Olympus593:
I'd suggest to rate 1 star on Play Store.
[SuperSU] RandomPooka:
Might as well do a clean install. Probably the best bet, and I don't see why you wouldn't pass the SafetyNet checks in that case. Uninstalling all the stuff still leaves potential remnants of them, which might trip SafetyNet
[SuperSU] lordemperor:
By my count PoGo accrued approximately 200,000 1-star reviews in the days following update 0.37, it didn't make a difference.

I think communication to Niantic is key, and needs to be done in a more direct manner.
[SuperSU] dratsablive:
In the end rooted phones make up less than 1% of the people playing Pokémon Go. They'll never cave.
[SuperSU] corkiejp:
Does the above, now mean the end of suhide? Has the cat won?
[SuperSU] Turk89:
Today I got my device in systemless mode and I have run the test using safetynet helper which result in exactly the same error you have now!! Damn it, I got so close to finally get back to use joystick in PG
[SuperSU] Astur13:
F*** Google, stop updating SafetyNet
[SuperSU] hoodred:
Android pay was working fine till 10pm last night.

This afternoon its fail.

Guess they patched the server again.

Safetynet response "payload validation fail"
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
Then credit institutes will pull back and you won't ever be able to use Android Pay. Other apps relying on it will either disappear or use root detection methods even suhide won't be and to bypass.
[SuperSU] Namelesswonder:
I'm not sure why, but I was able to use Android Pay (twice actually) about 3 hours ago even though Google updated SafetyNet before that. Checking SafetyNet Helper now shows response validation failure, but I'm not sure if Android Pay still works, and I really don't feel like driving out to a McDonald's at 8PM to test it. Great to know that me spending hours last night trying to get suhide to work and have an unencrypted userdata was for nothing.

Edit: Removed my card and tried to add it but was blocked, so I guess I got lucky and Android Pay had cached the SafetyNet results.
[SuperSU] Bureizu:
It's weird to think a game made google accomplish better security measures than the banks.
[SuperSU] chris9000:
Yep. Google is multibillion dollar corporation that has a stake in becoming one of few de facto NFC payment mediums in the future. To do that, they have to gain the trust of financial institutions looking to join NFC payment programs. The only way Google is gaining such trust is by taking overt steps to prevent Android Pay from working properly while rooted. A phone that can be rooted while running Android Pay is a security risk. The day Google starts slacking off on this security area is the day banks and credit card companies begin pulling out of Android Pay and sticking with Apple Pay. Google simply can't allow that to happen.

The real blame lies with Nintendo for not working harder to clamp down on spoofers/botters and the spoofers/botters. Most of us here wouldn't mind giving up Android Pay as long as we could play PKGO on a rooted phone as I can count on my fingers the number of stores in my town which accept Android Pay.
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
It has nothing to do with that silly game. It's all about the banks. Billions of dollars of transactions per second mean slightly more than playing games.

It's over as far as I'm concerned. I have 2 choices. Root and no ap, no root and ap. Simple. Thanks for playing with this CF. Nice work and greatly appreciated.
[SuperSU] chris9000:
What's AP, if I may ask?

I'm kind of sad myself. I've really enjoyed playing Pokemon Go, but it seems to be the case that playing with stock rom and kernel is the only way to go if I want to retain the option of playing it.
[SuperSU] teddy0209:
Android Pay... Multirom, but is not available to all...
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
Oh sorry. Android Pay. It took forever for Chase to come on board and I'm sure they said if they can't secure Android from root they're out. It's a no win situation. PG is peanuts compared to Chase banking security.
[SuperSU] chris9000:
Yeah, it doesn't take a mathematician to figure out who was giving Google a bigger financial incentive to crack down on rooting while Android Pay is active. It's only because of Pokemon Go many of us are learning about all this.

I'm debating going back to stock, giving up xPosed, and just paying for Youtube Red so I can still play youtube in the background with no ads or quitting playing PKGO entirely.
[SuperSU] rhyzan:
You're one of the reasons why Niantic has been banning rooted phones in the first place :/
[SuperSU] cantenna:
I have a noob question, is there any benefit to installing this now or should I wait for update, if one does come? I ask because it sounds like the method this tweak deploys has been patched (for now), am I right?
[SuperSU] Joeisgood99:
I just re flashed close to stock kernel (TWRP but no SU) on my sony Z5C. I did not delete the su folder either. Safety Net helper gave the all clear and PG worked fine. Can't test android pay though. It appears that safety net is detecting root in the kernel.
[SuperSU] techinv:
Yep, got an email from my bank that my debit card was removed from AP tonight and Safety Net is now failing. Oh well.....
[SuperSU] Rls4ever12:
You don't even need root to cheat on pogo
[SuperSU] edyny1:
Yup suhide no longer work, was playing pogo this morning fine and now cant connect to server and once again safetynet detecting root, but now the safetynet screen is blue before was red (wonder what they did now)
[SuperSU] mrxtc89117:
It seems from another thread that superuser-r266-hidesu works. They uninstalled suhide and supersu.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69000697&postcount=1151
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
No it's not.

---------- Post added at 08:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 PM ----------

It's a losing battle. They will always find a way to block it. And I'm glad of that too. It means they are serious about security when it comes to banking. So as I said before, root and no Android Pay or no root. And if we keep playing this game they will lock the bootloader and that is the end of it. Time to give it up imo.
[SuperSU] mrxtc89117:
I have a locked bootloader LG G3 but I can get it to work.
[SuperSU] RandomPooka:
That's all well and good for those who don't use root for things that just can't be done otherwise, such as kernel management apps, Subtratum themes, tasker profiles to automate certain button presses under certain conditions (such as hitting the "power button" instead of locking the screen when the phone is standing inverted and the proximity sensor is covered when I pocket it). Many of these things just can't be done without root, and have no effect on cheating at a game or spoofing banking info while using AP.
[SuperSU] garreth83@gmail.com:
My xposed installer version is 3.0 alpha4 by dvdandroid - 14/09/16
[SuperSU] magnum73:
How ? With what tool ?
[SuperSU] koko115:
Yestarday works, today me to stop working ?
[SuperSU] stephendt0:
+1 not working here either. Darn it. Looks like it's time to unroot :(
[SuperSU] rhyzan:
Most cheaters use PC. Android emulators and those kinds of stuff.
[SuperSU] SamuelBegui:
As of today there's no root solution to bypass Safetynet. :( The crack in the wall is disappearing. :crying:
[SuperSU] 135Shadowsoul:
No Pogo and blue safetynet helper :(
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] is there any chance to get a suhide update? please...
[SuperSU] Turk89:
Well if you want to use android pay simply don't root your device your also one of the reason why google have been updating saferynet :)

You don't even need root to cheat on how to pay using android pay or internet baking for that matter stop ba!ming others when your as well the one to blame
[SuperSU] rhyzan:
Thanks for telling me the obvious kid.

And yep, I'm probably one of the reasons why Safetynet is frequently updated and not the banks and corporations' increased pressure to Google on making Android Pay an appealing secure option as Apple Pay nor Niantic's attempts on thwarting cheaters. Yep. It's all me. I'm the one to blame :/

And hey! If you tried to backread (If you know such word) or read my whole post that you quoted with the original quote, you'll know why I said that.

K? K.
[SuperSU] manthes:
Any possibility to use it with lolipop? I don't want xposed
[SuperSU] 135Shadowsoul:
Well, at the moment there is no use anymore. it seems that google updated SafetyNet and now it triggers even with suhide => at the moment it does not help you anymore :(

Fu** you Google!!
[SuperSU] Turk89:
K cool story bro
[SuperSU] garreth83@gmail.com:
Sorry... I've given you the Xposed Installer version instead of the Xposed version. :eek:

Below is the Xposed version I have flashed:

xposed-v86.2-sdk23-arm-alt-topjohnwu.zip

The Xposed Installer version I am using is 3.0 alpha4 by dvdandroid - 14/09/16.
[SuperSU] cantenna:
This cat and mouse game reminds me of jailbreak (and why i migrated away from ios in the first place)

So should i install this? I'm using other apps i want to hide from root, will this do the trick, i don't care about android pay or PokÃ©mon at this stage
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
Well, as long as they are not using the safetynet API and no other unknown detection methods it should work
[SuperSU] EViollet:
It depends on the apps.

If the apps use SafetyNet, then you're out of luck.

If the apps you want to hide use their own detection methods, then you can always try. No guarantee.

Regards
[SuperSU] CyberDonky:
It's over now. Bye bye PoGo. Chainfire, do you think about a update for the PoGo app?
[SuperSU] cantenna:
What i was unsure of, does this just target safety net only but the op opening suggest it also hisses the binary too, so i will give this a try:)
[SuperSU] highKo:
nope, there are commands in the OP how you can add other apps. A way more simply is using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.loserskater.suhidegui
[SuperSU] cantenna:
Sweet! Didn't expect the existence of this app, thanks!
[SuperSU] Pilatus47:
Was working ok.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 6.
[SuperSU] Triviox:
ChainFire, in you we trust!

** waiting for suhide v0. 54.. LOL**
[SuperSU] mihirmodi:
I'm just curious, is it possible to modify the response SafetyNet returns to apps (like PoGo or AP) instead of hiding root, xposed etc. from SafetyNet.

Sorry if this is a dumb question.
[SuperSU] AxelCM1:
No suhide No party
[SuperSU] grep_i:
Does everything work after removing suhide it seems like suhide breaks your Xposed app recompilation reading your liveboot.log
[SuperSU] ShapeShifter499:
For those here because of Android Pay, seems it's easier just to buy a dedicated device or watch that has payments separate from your device, I.E. coin card or samsung watch. For PokemonGO users, the game is just a silly cash grab far removed from other Pokemon games; I think it's time to give up, I know I have. Lastly, for those complaining that your banking app will not work on rooted devices, what feature are you guys using that cannot be achieved via the bank website (in desktop mode) or text/phone call?
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
Scanning a check for deposit, fingerprint login.
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] can you verify snapchat if its using safetynet or any idea?
[SuperSU] ShapeShifter499:
Some block mobile check deposit? So far BofA doesn't but I haven't tried it in the last few weeks though. Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't thinking about that feature when I made my previous statement.
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
It's really a great feature that I use all the time. I can't remember the last time I went to the bank to deposit a check. Also Chase just came up with fingerprint login for my 5x. I don't even need to put in my 12 character ridiculous password. The app also formats the accounts correctly with easy drop downs for transfers and viewing activity. I used suhide for it and it worked great. Once AP broke again I just unrooted so I'm not sure if it would still have worked. Meaning I do not know if it used SafetyNet. I guess someone else can chime in here.
[SuperSU] CSX321:
You can still pass today with ElementalX installed? I wasn't able to. Maybe because EX puts a copy of busybox in /system/xbin?
[SuperSU] BungeBash:
As of today Pay says I'm not a compatible OS. Boo
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
Yes I was able to pass with ElementalX on my n5x. I didn't see that it put busybox anywhere on the kernel install or the EX kernel manager app. Why would it have done that? It's not needed as far as I can determine. Titanium worked too but I believe it uses its own busybox although I'm not sure on that one. You might want to ask about that in the corresponding thread.

Oh wait, critical reading. lol. You asked about "today"! No, nothing works today. I meant before SafetyNet was patched yesterday.
[SuperSU] MassStash:
Another confirm, response validation fail today ?

~pmewhl on Latest Viper 10 Beta

Hypernova kernel
[SuperSU] Dalamar666:
Hi all

I want to full unrot due to CTS verification fail... but in TWRP i can see that there is a folder (/supersu) that persists...

I unrooted with supersu apk, the phone reboots and now, if i reinstall supersu apk, it said that I haven't root

If I deleted the folder, the net reboot still here...

Any ideas? Thanks
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
I don't know which device you have or if you have xposed installed or not. But the way I did it on an n5x was to flash the suhide-rm file and then SuperSU very latest, then reboot. Then went into SuperSU app and did full unroot, reboot and it was done.
[SuperSU] ianmacd:
A dedicated device just for making electronic payments?

My dedicated device is a durable plastic debit card with an NFC chip. I hold it up to the point-of-sale terminal and the money is magically deducted from my bank account.

This ingenious device needs no power, so can't fail due to an empty battery; uses no software, so can't fail due to an integrity verification system being tripped, a poorly written app, or a misbehaving operating system; and has no electronics, so can't suffer a catastrophic hardware failure. Best of all, this device is supplied by my bank for free to anyone who wants one.

Watching people jump through hoops to get Android Pay working on a rooted phone is like watching someone try to paint the Forth Bridge using a toothbrush. And it's doubly painful to behold when one considers that all of this effort is for a technology that was effectively obsolete before it even materialised.
[SuperSU] jesssiii:
Does the suhide-rm-v0.51 zip work when trying to remove version 0.53?

Nexus 6P
[SuperSU] francyesco:
Yes
[SuperSU] Potato997:
Yes
[SuperSU] LaoArchAngel:
I believe so, as that's what I used to remove it from my OP3. Pay and Pogo working for me now.
[SuperSU] adoy:
Yes, suhide-rm-v0.51 will remove all v0.5x versions. Tested on my LG G4...
[SuperSU] mrxtc89117:
I don't know then. That's what I did. I had problems flashing it with twrp because the LG G3 has a locked bootloader. I used flashfire from the play store.

Oops. so sorry. I accidentally posted in the wrong thread.
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
Now why would you come here to ruin our fun? Besides, I actually think Android Pay works very well. You said your mind but I do not think your arguments are persuasive.
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
If you only need Snapchat you can use XPosed and Snapprefs. So no, they probably don't use it, otherwise there would be already modules to do the same for PoGo
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
I cant log in and read something on google is about root so i tought was safetynet so still i can use snapprefs because i cant log in its happening since yestarday it was working good but not today and since safetynet got update thats why
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
Yes, that happens from time to time for no obvious reason. I think the solution was to uninstall XPosed, reboot, login to Snapchat (I think after it was said to work), make a backup with titanium, install XPosed and every time it won't let you log in just restore from titanium. But for the exact way her over to the Snapprefs thread.

And of curse always make sure that you have the right version of Snapchat installed!
[SuperSU] fozzie:
Yep, this works perfectly on my OnePlus One. SafetyNet Helper shows green but I am rooted and made two Android Pay payments today.
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
Yeah i know but i dont have xposed i have clean installed stock deodexed rom first time it has happen guess it has safetynet
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
When you are on the latest version, they have possibly added that. Just go back to an older version, add it to suhide blacklist and disable updates
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
Will try one more time i used 9.31.0 or .1 and try the updated one and had same thing did suhide added to blacklist and same thing but will try sorry for this but will try agin thank you
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
[MENTION=5125527]Artim_96[/MENTION] [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] ok so this is what i did i think i am correct snapchat is checking safetynet did suhide added it to blacklist did not work so i said let me full unroot via su app did it and could connect easily so if anyone can corfirm it i have some screenshots so since suhide dont work cause update safetynet obviously snapchat is starting with that samething

UPDATE:after full unroot logged in and then decided to root again and stayed logged in can be something else
[SuperSU] grep_i:
That's weird on my device Nexus 5 it's just working with SuperSU v2.78-SR1 and [MENTION=2476451]romracer[/MENTION] systemless Xposed v86.1 all enabled.

Even without suhide v0.53 it is still working.

So are you absolutely a 100% sure they are using safetynet as a security matter ?
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
If you wanna try uninstalling it and installing it it happened today and yesterday it was ok

I am no expert just letting ppl now but can be something else maybe i am wrong but just the 2 cents
[SuperSU] bigknowz:
Success

SafetyNet failing since yesterday, tried AP for the hell of it a few minutes ago and it worked. Play Services 9.6.83, Stock Nougat + flash kernel, N6P.
[SuperSU] grep_i:
[MENTION=7041450]JonathanRAZ[/MENTION]

Did this already 2 times today.

But right now I did it again and it is still working, no problems what so ever here.
[SuperSU] JonathanRAZ:
Ok sir will sorry then is something else sorry for this will try clean installing rom again
[SuperSU] grep_i:
Good luck...
[SuperSU] Federixbest:
My suhide v0.53 worked fine for two weeks, but now I have this problem, without reason... What can I do?
[SuperSU] grep_i:
You could try and switch to phhsuperuser and hidesu that works for now but will probably not anymore very soon.

Other than that there is nothing you can do about it.
[SuperSU] Ch3vr0n:
Read the last few pages, your answer is already in there. Key word: safety net got updated

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met Tapatalk
[SuperSU] CSX321:
Found an issue. Titanium Backup is unable to freeze or thaw apps. This uses the built-in package manager, I think, so it probably is on the default blacklist. Does anyone know which package that is? I haven't had any luck searching for it yet.
[SuperSU] HamsterHam:
Flashed the latest version and still no uid file and same issue with can't use the script to add files. Any help would be appreciated.
[SuperSU] voland66:
Works for me, I think -- just froze and thawed a random app
[SuperSU] rifraf1:
I did an uninstall of version v0.01 then did the install of v0.12 plus reinstall Supersu 2.76 and I did not get the full uid file, the current uid file only has one number in it now. Is this correct? Afraid to go back into AP for fear of losing access.

Prior to this it was working well on my 6P with PureNexus Rom and verified that AP purchases were working along with all other apps having root access.
[SuperSU] voland66:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]

If I understand correctly, systemless mod linked in the adaway xda thread creates two files inside /data/su.img: a hosts file in /su/etc and a script in /su/su.d. The script simply bind mounts /su/etc/hosts onto /system/etc/hosts. So I think adaway itself does not know the difference between system and systemless installation. Adaway works with both system and systemless supersu without suhide (in the latter case it works with and without systemless adaway mod). It can't find root after suhide is flashed.
[SuperSU] kartikb:
ANZ Go Money app still picks up root and disables Wallet feature evening after adding the UID. The only way I can make it work is to unmount root in Magisk. When I need root access, then I force close the ANZ app and enable root. Can anyone else test this and give a feedback?

Thanks
[SuperSU] voland66:
Don't hold me responsible but I think you won't loose access if you go into AP. I think the latest AP root detection does not care if the device was rooted in the past -- it works as long as the root is not detected at boot or whenever root checks are done. In the past month I have run AP a number of times while rooted and it, of course, refused to run (that was prior to suhide). But after a complete unroot and reboot it would work perfectly (without the need to reenter cards).
[SuperSU] NYLimited:
I grabbed the update before you posted the above and simply flashed the new version followed by reflashing Supersu beta. All seems fine thus far!

Im running the same version as systemless with su also systemless. No problems. To double check I removed the entry for it from su. Starting up AdAway immediately prompted for root privs.