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[Android Software Development] anbinhv:
Thanks [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]! awesome sound mod.

I think the OP posts make users abit confused. Will Ainur Universal [5.0+] A1 work on every CPU? If yes, do we have to flash Ainur Universal [2.3+] U2.1 first?
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Okay, i just installed A1 on the OP3. Bass is more powerful noticeably, still examining it.

Universal 2.1 seems to be not functioning properly as of now.

For those who are worried about that sudden reboot when installing 2.1, this is normal, it is nothing but a reboot command written in the updater-script or the updater-binary. Nothing more, nothing less.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
2.3+ is for android phones 2.3 and above, obviousley. While A1 is for 5 and above. You can flash them whatever you like)
[Android Software Development] Black_Eyes:
working fine on htc 10 :)

Thanks
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Wait for KRONOS, man) It will blow your HiFi capabilities!)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
I'm not using V4A, or any other external effect except Arkamys, so i couldn't say on that) It's up to you and your beloved effects
[Android Software Development] :
Thank you
[Android Software Development] ariefabuzaky:
Hee i think its script failure,thanks for information, but if i flash A.1 arkamys app Fc
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
What device you have ?
[Android Software Development] ariefabuzaky:
Nexus 6p, rooted android 7.0 stock rom
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Maybe because Arkamys is not compatible yet wirh Nougat ;)
[Android Software Development] yung40oz84:
What version did u flash?
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
1. Really? Really?

So you would rather edit your above comment rather than openly recognise you were wrong?

The community is not a place for you to show off! Community is to learn from one another, if I taught you something it's highly unethical to go back and CHANGE your comment in order to hide the fact you were wrong!

2. I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS!

3. For someone who calls SW effects crap, and junk, you were using a lot of software effects... And you didnt even know that Dolby was integrated so deep into hardware you can't just "remove" it.

4. For someone that so easily bad mouths other mods for their "sw effects" , you were using a lot of "sw effects".

I'm still waiting to find out how the DAC voltage hack actually is meant to improve anything.

5. You were using an Audio_effects.conf for the M9 on Kronos for HTC 10, with only SW dolby. When the 10 is capable of HW dolby effects.

On top of that the audio_effects.conf was out of date, referencing libs you had deleted from your sound mod (by your own admission).

What's the point of "updating" your mod if you won't properly take care of it.

This shows your amateur approach to modding.

6. [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION] how can you support this guy?

After being repeatedly rude to other modders, lying about his own mod, and not properly maintaining his own mod.

To top it off he wasn't even aware of the development of your mods even though he supposedly "supports" you.

7. I am actually looking forward to the new Kronos with focus on HW effects.

Hopefully it'll be an actually unique mod.

It has the potential to be good... Just make sure to maintain it properly [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION].

Only then will you have the right to call "sw effects" crap, when you have a FULLY FUNCTIONING hardware audio mod...

Because so far you were bad mouthing software mods but yours was a software mod too!

8. Still waiting for my questions to be answered... I hope they come soon.
[Android Software Development] M Huzaifah:
Chill mate. Calm down... :angel:
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
While i'm upset, I'm also very calm.

I just believe people deserve to know and see the truth and his hypocrisy.

As i said, if his Kronos update is truly HW focused, and is properly maintained... I can support Ainur 100%.

My comment above was put together and i thought multiple times over before posting in order to make sure it's clear and accurate.

What truly upsets me though, is the fact that he EDITED his comment in order to not admit he was wrong!
[Android Software Development] M Huzaifah:
Nvm mate, I'm also waiting his answer.
[Android Software Development] hansonchen:
Obviously you're not here on a neutral & supporting development basis. Go back to your feel good thread by praising each other like a cult. Coming in stirring like an idiot, nitpicking & sowing discord among members shows how low your morals are.

Your problem comprehending about the hack is really appalling. There wasn't even stated it involves "voltage". Further explanation to you may not reach your level of intellect, so give it a rest. Grow up & please learn how to conduct yourself in any forums & life. Now shoo-shoo back to your herd-of-sheep thread
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Where did i lie? The dac codec u are speaking about is not that fully hw stuff, as AKM & ESS are, it's s**t in terms of audio. Voltage hack might help in order to got rid of micro flickering with low power kernel/pnp control (mostly to be sure the is no crackling after compander is switched off), but i wrote u - it's experimental, this might not work. Instead of testing, u wrote many questions i'm not really interested to answer.

Yes, i disrespect people claiming that several software effects are fully working, as they are not working & never will without a proper ARM porting no one except one guy on xda can do. And even if they will work, mixing them that much several mods do it in software development section - is ridiculously stupid. The amount of signal loss would be enormous. Yes i might be wrong on dolby as i never looked into it while i'm aware of it, whatever it is deeply integrated in hdsp or not - it still utilises standart android audio routing & i always cut it out from effect confs & delete it it's libs (surpisingly there won't be any rendering by dolby so far), on every rom i'm making my tests. If u want some HW stuff - there is an offload hack for u, written in the op.

No, I won't ever write where did i got HiFi libs base from. Alsa info can be found over the web, for furhter mixer edits apart from Ainur take a look at Chdloc's thead, i'm just getting rid of compander & dealing with digital gain as there is nothing we can do to analog ones. Another way to do a FULL hw - deal with kernel sources, i don't know how to do that, if u know - go ahead.

Speaking of learning - why don't u make research, tests & share the info, instead of writing all this over & over again?)

Oh, btw, if you don't liked the sound you get, why the hell u r looking forward to "support Ainur 100%"? What is the purpose of your support, if u want clear answers to your questions, but u don't provide full info on codec&hdsp u are really wise in? I guess i have to google it by my own, why don't you then find info u want on yours?)
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
I'm sorry for critically analysing and giving feedback on your "messiah" mod.

Because obviously it's ok for OP to attack other threads but no one can mention the truth about this "unquestionable" mod.

1. Actually, i did come here in a neutral basis, i was recommended by [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION] whom I deeply respect. I have been using his mod since early days when it was called Dragon-Fi.

So i decided to try this mod.

What happened was I didnt like the sound, so i looked for a reason why... As I extracted the zip file and analysed the content the OPs decisions confused me.

After i asked for him to explain, and he didn't explain but bragged instead i decided to read ALL 50+ pages in this thread. What I found was hypocrisy gold!

2. "There wasn't even stated it involves voltage" you are thinking about the DAC HAX.

I'm talking about KRONOS v2 voltage hack in 1st post.

So before critising try and find the background on my post prior to sounding like an idiot.

3. "Further explanation to you may not reach your level of intellect"

So that makes it alright to attack me as a person rather than discussing my comment and answering my questions?

Or is your intellect not capable enough to answer my question?

It's ok, i pity you... I'm not gonna stoop to your level in order to offend you since you are probably suffering enough from your evident lack of self-esteem you need to attack others to make yourself feel better.

4. [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] do you really want these kind of people defending your mod for you?

Is this the kind of first impressions you want new comers to your mod to be?
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
There is only one "Messiah" mod in ASD section, 60% not working, no one is speaking about & lots of it predecessors 80% nonworking, still no one takes care about it.
[Android Software Development] ZeroInfinity:
Everyone calm down! I'm sure UltraM8 doesn't want this kind of drama erupting in his thread! Please don't start flame wars, if you don't like the tone you're spoken to, just ignore it and move on.

[MENTION=5736502]Kyuubi10[/MENTION] I can't blame him, because truth be told I've had sarcastic responses to people who don't read, search, or being just plain stupid on my thread many times before. You have to understand how hard it is for a developer to answer so many questions at once. Do you want the dev to spend more time on his mod or more time answering all your questions? I know you're just trying to get information here, but some people are really busy and you can't expect them to answer everything so soon.

[MENTION=4689452]hansonchen[/MENTION] I understand you're annoyed but even so, there's no reason to start flaming/ranting personally on other member.

The most respectable sound devs I know of are [MENTION=5357345]ahrion[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] in terms of the quality of their mods, I'm not going to base anything on their attitudes or behaviours because there would be no point. This is XDA, not some kind of business.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
You forgot the Greatest, bro)) The real chosen one) I wrote him on arm porting - he still doesen't want to talk on that.
[Android Software Development] Slypnslyde:
Well put, but didn't this rant happen earlier in the thread, I thought everything was settled already?
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
tl;dr for everyone sides you.

Life is too short to be starting XDA drama. I don't even know who [MENTION=5736502]Kyuubi10[/MENTION] is but Everytime a new mod comes out drama seems to occur. [MENTION=5736502]Kyuubi10[/MENTION] isn't wrong though on point #6 [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION]

I'm neutral, just making observations.
[Android Software Development] hansonchen:
-Removed-
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
Why are you all making laundry lists? Get back to the topic and stop bashing each other. Over what...who has the biggest baddest epeen mod?

I see both of you guys defending your positions and attacking the others. So much Hippocracy

If I was mod I'd ban everyone on this site. :highfive:
[Android Software Development] ZeroInfinity:
lmfao, well said!

EDIT:

While I agree on this statement, it's not like I attack other soundmod devs on the forum. I try to keep things to myself. But I understand if you're talking about the way I talk to some users in my thread.
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
Edited
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
You may have not lied consciously, maybe you were mistaken/unaware so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But mostly it was hypocritical to call sw effects crap when your own mod is mostly made of sw effects.

Also this is not in regards to your feud with Arise... I couldnt care less about ur opinion of them.

I'm mentioning your reply to my first comment.

1. DAC codec IS fully hw. A codec is a set of instructions for how the DAC will convert the digital signal to analog.

Aqstic is a codec, so it is FULLY hw.

And whether it's **** or not in terms of audio... That's your opinion which you are entitled to.

But we may expand and discuss this at a later time.

2. Thank you for explaining regarding the voltage hack.

3. About disrespecting others... As I said, i couldnt care less about your feud with others.

But if a mod makes a difference to the audio of a device, and is capable of improving audio quality... Even if 60% is not working... The mod was successful.

As I mentioned to [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION]...any improvement over stock is good!

And this goes back to being hypocrytical, you are doing sw audio mods, but using different libs, you had arkamys in the past and you have dolby sw effect enabled in your mod....

So apart from ALSA stuff... What you do is not truly different from other sw mods.

So it's not your place to judge OR be disrespectful. Especially since they have been around in XDA much longer!

4. About Dolby, audio routing has nothing to do with effects.

Audio routing is server client model... Such as ALSA + JACK/pulseaudio in linux.

Dolby hw integration is how the DSP uses dolby in order to apply audio effects.

If CPU is applying effects that is considered software, if DSP is applying effects it's considered hardware.

5. If you don't want to disclose your sources... Ok that is fine...

That is a quick answer you could have said much much earlier.

6. About learning... I am learning :) and sharing :)

A year ago I wouldn't even have extracted a zip file to analyse the contents... Yet now i'm capable of.

Check my signature, this past year i have started making my own contributions to the community.

In time i'll be making more. The more I learn, the more i can contribute :)

7. I didn't like the sound because your mod was overwriting AcousticX. But i didn't know that yet.

By inspecting the zip i found out, and then found out about the audio_effects issues.

Now, by flashing AcousticX over your mod it doesn't sound that bad.

I'll try to make some more modifications and i'll report back what i have done and how it sounds.

---------- Post added at 03:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:48 PM ----------

Note, this wasn't a dig on you.

This was more a dig at the that guy's comment...

As i said [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION], is that truly the kind of person you want defending your mod?
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
I really don't care. As you wrote - it is a year before u started learning on how things work, it's the same as me. If mine htc m8 wouldn't drown a year ago, i would never start making mods. Maybe that guy is not that experienced enough, but he can clearly read what you were writing before u finally explained your position with facts/full written opinion. If i'd be on his place - i would do the same.
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
[MENTION=5357345]ahrion[/MENTION] [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION] [MENTION=4689452]hansonchen[/MENTION] [MENTION=5049784]dark jedi66[/MENTION]

Guys...

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to OP.

Initially i was trying to understand the mod.

But OP chose to brag about his next version of the mod, rather than answering the question.

If OP doenst want to answer that's ok... Just if he's gonna take the time to brag in response to my questions... He should also have the time to actually reply.

As i mentioned to OP i don't care about the whole feud with Arise... I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THAT.

This whole argument started at the fact that in his 1st reply he bragged instead of replying... And in the 2nd reply he edited quietly his reply after i corrected him rather than openly admitting he did not know (later he admitted, which I respect. But his initial action was unacceptable in my opinion)

I don't know why other people felt the need to start being offensive.

And i was getting tired of having my questions avoided by OP... If he doenst want to answer just say so... Dont waste my time with half answers.

That is why I reacted in a less than respectful manner.

And for that I apologise.

But never at any moment did I compare any other mod with OP's mod apart from Zero's AcoustiX.

Some guys here are still on a cold war about the Arise matter, so much so that you feel the need to attack anyone who criticises this mod.
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
I'm on ARISE team and could care less about the drama unless I have popcorn and a coke.

I was tagged in this thread and therefore made relevant.

No one likes reading novels.

If you're not getting your questions answered than that's fine. You have two options. Live with it or turn the other cheek. You can't make people do what you want when you keep addressing it. There obviously are reasons answers are vague and unsatisfying.

---------- Post added at 04:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 PM ----------

Not at all. People tend to attack each other and defend their own positions. It's back and forth and there's no resolution.

I haven't really taken a look at your thread since I ditched HTC for OP3 as my DD.
[Android Software Development] surajloharia:
The issue is not with the AML as currently im using it with VIPER and Stereo speaker Mod !!

For the audio loss, I thin you may have altered the user option file.

Delete it and flash the Audio Mod.

I have not tried the lastest build yet. Going to just flash.:svetius:

Edit: ver. 9/4 is working fine . No issues found till yet and UI didn't freezed this time. Using with Aml .
[Android Software Development] G U C C I:
I'm running 17.1 and it puts my LG V20 into fastboot mode when the module is enabled. Same with Viper but I believe there is a fix for it that people have discovered.
[Android Software Development] Xipe_Totec:
Does narsil works with external DACs?
[Android Software Development] DeCo59:
Hello all, I discover this module today and I decide to give it à shot

Im with an s9+ Los 17.1 and I flash AML, next ainur narsil and jamesdsp to finish

Im using an Sony 1000xm3 on Bluetooth so I check the "master switch" on jamesdsp

It's all I have to done for make all this works ?

Thanks for your response and for this module
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
Have you ever used Viper? JamesDSP is basically the same.

Activating the master switch is the first step to make it work.

As you may have seen there are several settings like bass boost, compression, EQ or the ability to use convolver files just like in Viper.

Play with that functions to find out your preferred sound.

Some additional information:

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516/post72786247

Ainur Narsil and Sauron have no UI.
[Android Software Development] DeCo59:
Yes I used to use it on my first oneplusone if I dont mistake, with cyanogen mod

Ok so all good, now its just find the good settings
[Android Software Development] Electrolite_XYZ:
Please can you link me to the fix if I ever try LOS I'll use both mods
[Android Software Development] lazostat:
Guys can i combine this audio mod with viper4android or jamesdsp? And how can i understand that this mod is working? Cause it has no gui.
[Android Software Development] DEVILOPS 007:
You have ears right? Listen to music and you'll know
[Android Software Development] lazostat:
I just bought the phone so i won't understand the difference my friend. :)
[Android Software Development] crackerjack1957:
su -c dumpsys media.audio_flinger

(or)

su

dumpsys media.audio_flinger
[Android Software Development] Lughnasadh:
It doesn't matter when you bought the phone. Listen to music prior to installing the mod and after installing the mod and compare.
[Android Software Development] lazostat:
Ok i have some questions.

About installing. You say, If using magisk, disable busybox in magisk manager. You mean i must have busybox disabled the whole time? Why?

About uninstalling. You say, Flash the uninstaller for the version of the module currently installed. Where can i find this file?

About sound mods synergy. Every phone or tablet has some kind of sound mods/drivers. For example my lenovo tablet has dolby app and my oneplus 5 has dirac sound. That mean that i have to install AML module too? Or should i debloat them and leave only narsil?

What can i do if i want a bass boost on my songs/movies?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
You don't quote a certain person so who told you to disable Busybox? As far as I know that's not needed.

Also flashing any uninstaller is not needed (except for Magisk itself).Just tap the recycle bin in Magisk modules behind the audio mod you want to get rid of and reboot. If it has a unity Installer like Viper4Android reflashing the module will uninstall it too.

About pre installed sound mods: That depends. Some mods will work with custom modules, most won't. If you run into problems

the best is to deactivate the pre installed audio mods.

A good combination is Ainur Sauron/Narsil with Viper4Android (or JamesDSP, both will be kind of overkill) and AML to make them run together.

To check if all modules are working the above command

su -c dumpsys media.audio_flinger

will show you that.
[Android Software Development] lazostat:
Thank you man for the infos! I didn't quote someone, cause i read these on the first posts of the thread in the FAQ section. Maybe they are outdated. When you say that maybe i will encounter some problems, what they would be?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
Maybe the FAQ isn't actual in all parts, I have osmosis Busybox installed (Magisk module) and never had any problems regarding audio mods.

A possible problem you could run into is a bootloop when stock audio mods like Dirac are not working with custom mods.

I recommend to deactivate the standard android EQ (also called audio effect or similar). For other device specific mods I would take a look into your devices forum.

If you get a bootloop though there are ways to uninstall the relevant module from TWRP for example.

Here are some troubleshooting tips for such cases:

https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskModuleIssues
[Android Software Development] lazostat:
What this "more than 5 mixer files detected" mean? I have debloatet Dirac sound from oneplus.

Also, where is the Uninstaller?

I use AIMP music player. Is it good? It has many options and I don't know which ones to enable/disable.
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
Can't help you with that "more than 5 mixer files" thing, never had that. Maybe another user with the same device could help there. An uninstaller isn't needed, just open the modules tab in Magisk manager and tap the recycle bin behind the regarding module and reboot.

I only used AIMP for PC a long time ago so I can't help you there too.

I'm a big fan of Poweramp, it was the first app I purchased.
[Android Software Development] meetlogan:
Sauron removed from magisk?
[Android Software Development] surajloharia:
No further development for now.. so removed and no updates as well
[Android Software Development] albatross8125:
Hello, how can I understand if Narsil is working properly or, not?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
1) Listen if the sound gets better.

2) Check if the effect chain is fully active by entering

su -c dumpsys media.audio_flinger

into a terminal.
[Android Software Development] AlfaRune:
Tried flashing latest sauron mod via twrp. I am getting error 123. System is oneplus 3 oxygen os 9.0.6. What to do?
[Android Software Development] Hollyca:
Got the same issue running havoc os 3.5 flashing with twrp
[Android Software Development] AlfaRune:
Won't run on havoc 3.5 it is android 10. Support is upto android 9 only.
[Android Software Development] Hollyca:
Alright, thanks
[Android Software Development] /Lkids_zZZ:
I can't use my front camera after i flash sauron narsil,my device is redmi k20p（raphael）.What should I do?
[Android Software Development] scowley7:
Hi and thank you for the flinger command. Should the output show Narsil somewhere if loaded and running properly? I can see my DTS Audio (DTS Headphone:X) there alright but no Narsil. Have both and AML installed in magisk on PE Plus Edition rom on HTC 10 (old and just use for music). Any guidance is very much appreciated.