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[Android Software Development] fil3s:
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GitHub - Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager: A module manager for Magisk because the official app dropped support for it

A module manager for Magisk because the official app dropped support for it - Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager

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[Android Software Development] oldman20:
can i combine with Viper4Android on android 9, even Android Q?
[Android Software Development] GOW.Kratos:
Which are the options i need to select in Audio Compatibility Patch before flashing Ainur? . I'm not using any other sound mods.
[Android Software Development] miasik:
I'm on LineageOS 19.1

Do I need to manually remove preinstalled AudioFX before installing MK1?
[Android Software Development] Sille12345:
MHello dear members, I have an android 8727l radio in my car, I installed viper4, ainur nasril flashed, are these enough for me to listen to a better quality sound, thanks for your help
[Android Software Development] Sille12345:
AHow to install Ainur nasril cleanly
[Android Software Development] Sille12345:
8Why is viper4 not active while the 227l radio is playing FM? is there a setting?
[Android Software Development] DvineLord:
@Sille12345, try turning on legacy and/or compatibility. i have to turn them on to get v4a working with xiialive.
[Android Software Development] ninjakira:
Ayy just saying, if your coming from viper to Xtrememusic you're definitely gonna notice a big difference quick, I have a lot of google play credit due to opinions rewards so I bought the pro and boy howdy I'm not disappointed fr but just the free stuff does plenty, you can install the magisk module they provide through the app also, not to sure on battery drain yet, they have there own battery optimizer and stuff and I have the moto edge (2021). extreme music uses ai based algorithms so if you have a phone that already uses an ai based audio setup like what the stock audio effects essentially is then think of Xtrememusic as being the improved version so I could see the battery drain being more on phones that don't use the ai based system, I'll report back here and let y'all know how it drains tho after a few days, I should say I do understand the differences between what Xtrememusic does vs James DSP and other but given the the amount of success/fail people and devices are having using them past android 11 I'd say Xtrememusic is a good middle for sure especially if your just tired of dealing with compatibility issues fr cause it's starting to get old for me personally 😅
[Android Software Development] NLhardcore:
What a joke, extreme music doesn't do **** !!! The development is even removed from XDA developers !!!
[Android Software Development] ninjakira:
It does more than stock audio effects is what I'm getting at, if I didnt have a dumb amount of play credit, I wouldn't spend real money on it tho, and like I said, its not the same compared to James DSP and others but for me, it does better for me and at least works better than viper and the stock sound effects does right now sorry, sorry if you can't understand that some people just are tired of dealing with compatibility issues with all this various sound/audio enchancements, it's better than stock, not better if your able to actually get viper, James and others actually working
[Android Software Development] NLhardcore:
I know what you mean butt I got viper working every time until now and I ma on oxygen 12 but it takes some other modules to get it to actually work !
[Android Software Development] shohabmsk:
has anyone noticed original Google Chrome(not chromium) on Windows sounds a lot like Ainur Sauron on android? like sound feels deeper, widened reverb, and breaths more air from mouth?
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
Have you tried Wavelet ? No root needed,well known developer (viper).
[Android Software Development] Techguy777:
You guys do realize wavelet doesn't use root access? Meaning alls it really does is change the equalizer settings? Viper actually go into system and adds its own driver same thing with jamesdsp. Hes not the real developer of viper viper520 is and he just walked away years ago and I can't understand why. He made one of the greatest Android modification tools you could say ever. This guy who made wavelet just made modifications to the apk to install properly and work with later androids which is awesome but unfortunately everyone thinks he made it and takes credit for something another developer did. So then you guys think well if he created viper this new app is going to sound awesome but it doesn't I've tried it. Sounds like **** everyone just thinks it sounds good like a placebo effect. Sorry I just get tired of everyone thinking if someone on XDA is developing anything it has to be good. No if you stop lying to yourselves then youll come to the right conclusions.

Notice how everyone likes viper? Thats because it truly works and is awesome you dont see that with any other cound mod. However james dsp on my Tab S8 for speakers is good for the added gain. If viper was working though it wouldn't be you don't have to like something just because someone on XDA made it
[Android Software Development] Wolfcity:
You're quoting me while talking to "you guys" who haven't any knowledge.

First thing: I didn't say that the developer of Wavelet is the same one who originally made Viper4Android. I said he's a well known developer and yes, he's known as part of Team de Witt for creating the actual Viper apps (and these are well known).

I know that the original effects engine of Viper4Android was developed by XDA Member viper520 and maintained by XDA Recognized Contributor zhuhang.

Btw, @zhuhang is inactive but still on XDA (last visit august 2022) while @viper520 is indeed inactive since 2012.

They will have their reasons.

Team de Witt doesn't just make "some modifications" to Viper, they reverse engineered the whole (closed source) app and made it a lot more usable.

If you count the posts on XDA like "I can't get Viper working on android version 9/10/11/12/13 or device x" it shows the problem of getting a really old app properly installed on new and massively changed android versions.

On the other hand rooting gets a lot more complicated (keyword cat and mouse game) and many people don't see the benefit of rooting anymore.

For those Wavelet is an alternative, if you think it sounds like **** it's your opinion, there's no sense to argue about sound, everyone has his own expression or opinion about what sounds good or bad.

I'm using Wavelet for a long time now and in combination with poweramp and a set of good headphones I get a nice sound (for my ears). Yes, Viper or James DSP have more options to modify the sound more deeply but for non rooted users Wavelet is a useable alternative and definitely not just a placebo effect. Maybe you have to dive a little bit deeper into it's settings especially the EQs.

So if you don't like it and you're one of the users who want to root their device and also belong to the lucky ones with an (older?) device where it's installable go and use it.

But don't tell other people what is crap just because you don't like it.

On my older rooted devices Viper is my first choice too and I'm into rooting/modding since the Froyo/Gingerbread days.

And please do me a favor:

If you quote me don't tell me "you guys".
[Android Software Development] Sayujya_06:
Please share me the mk III
[Android Software Development] Rikj000:
After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.

Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.
[Android Software Development] ezzony:
- LG v20/30/30+/g6/g7/v40

As above the OP says it has support for the above LG models, but what about the LG V50, or has this simply been been omitted from the OP?

V50 doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the V20 imo. Would it be possible to disable the filters altogether? It seems there is always one selected, not none at all. The V20 doesn't have any filters, but sounds way better. For some reason the V50 soundstage sounds crippled and I'm wondering if the filters are causing this.
[Android Software Development] DvineLord:
I tried using sauron on los 18.1 on my lg g2 d800 and it made my device unstable. im using latest aml, acp and regular v4a module. i was using magisk v23 at time. im currently using magisk delta 25.2-beta-5. maybe new magisk versions will make it stable!?
[Android Software Development] Rikj000:
Has no audio issues since my previous post, updated Viper4Android-RE to v0.3.0.

If I compare the audio output of my Android phone and Linux desktop,

both with Spotify + Bluetooth + Same Bluetooth speaker used for output.

Then in it's current state, my Android phone wins in audio quality by a mile.
[Android Software Development] DvineLord:
@Rikj000 , i flashed ainur sauron and my phone seems to be stable. thanks for the nudge to flash it again. now all i have to do is get a working dolby atmos module and all will back to how i had it on nougat.
[Android Software Development] gift2uma:
I have the same combo on my N9600 running A10. Can't wait for viper4android-RE to get playback gain control working.
[Android Software Development] gift2uma:
So I just installed Ainur narsil [ mk i ] via magisk as it supports A10... And bloody hell... wow!!!! I'm excited to own a rooted Samsung note again...

Can confirm this works on N9600 running magisk 26.1, lsposed + Viper4Android-RE 0.3.0 + aml.
[Android Software Development] CaptianXLAB:
Hello, im running Android 13, Pixel 7 Pro stock ROM patched with Magisk 26.1, with AML and v4a-RE 0.3.0. (if it matters - im also using 32bit helper magisk patch for pixel 7/7pro to add 32bit abi support)

Just installed Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip magisk module.

Can confirm v4a-RE still works but I don't know what the zip did / what effects it added and how to control them. This is the first time I'm using this mod, does it come with any app to control things like v4a?

Do I have to install apps manually?

Thanks
[Android Software Development] gift2uma:
OP:

User determined features:

You can set these features with sauron_useroptions (UO) file, by placing it to the root of the internal storage. Installer will place the file there during the install, if it's not there already. After resetting values you have to reinstall Sauron each time you want to try/set something new. Some of the stuff there can break sound completely - there is no fix for that, you have to reset stuff back & don't use some of the features that breaks normal use of your device.
[Android Software Development] Yeedatoy:
Any audio mod on LG devices with the DAC will deteriorate the audio. Any of the long time LG developers will tell you for the best audio on any of those LG devices don't mod anything audio related. Best thing you could do is install a custom ROM because they've updated the drivers for the DAC, and also added a toggle so you can manually choose between the three different output settings, line out, headphones etc so you're not limited by what the device chooses based on the ohms of your headphones / speaker or whatever may be connected
[Android Software Development] ezzony:
What about equalizer? Or autoeq? All those do what your're saying not to do.

You are talking about the force high impedance mod. I have built that into the kernel for the V20 only recently, so it always works. On the V50 doing it in the mixer paths doesn't work with Tidal so I'm currently working on trying to build it into the V50 kernel so it can't be bypassed by any app.

If I can figure out how to build the V50 kernel I have a plan to improve it by modifying the driver to be more like V20. It might work it might not. Anyway my question about Narsil is redundant now since I have better idea since.
[Android Software Development] Yeedatoy:
I would suggest sending send a message to SGMarkus. He can most likely run you through whatever you need to do. I think he is the one who got the DAC working correctly on every custom ROM initially. Check the LG V30 telegram thread and there's a bunch of guys in there who could help you out as well. If you can't find Markus on here, You'll find him there They are the ones who released official lineage 13 for the V30, which is an accomplishment for a device released on nougat, and it runs like a bat out of hell. Regarding auto EQ that's something I would definitely use. It's not the equalization that causes any issues since it's just tuning the sound that's already being output, I'm really just referring to anything that modifies the mixer paths or will add audio effect libs or remove them. All of them will negatively affect what LG has perfected. Now if you're editing specific volumes in the mixer paths, You're fine. I just wouldn't mess with anything else that I mentioned. In my experience, even though USB audio player pro is great, especially because Tidal can be opened through the program specifically as well as other music apps, I would only use it for that. See if you have the same issue with Tidal if you open it through USB audio player pro. Neutron in my opinion works much better with LG devices. I feel like you can get much louder output without distortion, you just have to be sure to not enable anything that upsamples. As far as I know, aside from the stock LG music player, the only apps that can bypass Androids built-in mixer which screws up the sample rate are USB audio player pro and Neutron, and I believe Power Amp
[Android Software Development] ItsLevTOP:
Hello everyone!

Now I am using Android 13 Samsung A50 audio mod jamesdsp which of the mods provided here should I install?

Please help .
[Android Software Development] fhLan:
Why this mod breaks poweramp direct volume control? Is it because this mod really depend on hw? If it is, what's the difference between your mods and your 'hack'?

Thanks before
[Android Software Development] bazanster:
Man, awesome mod! I spent all my day searching for a mod to push my JBL speakers to the max, and i was about to give up until i found ainur :good:. I would like to ask you to cook atlant for the galaxy s6, if you could, i think i'm not the only one who would appreciate it. Thanks and congratulations :cool:
[Android Software Development] Slypnslyde:
Yes you're right we need one for Samsung
[Android Software Development] jiyoohji:
OP does this mod work for oos 3.2.7?
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
What does OP say?

3 mods, 2 made for specific devices, 3rd is universal.

If you cant find your device on the first 2 versions of the mod... Try the third.

If it doesn't work tell the dev.
[Android Software Development] jiyoohji:
It means original poster.

I tried the one for oneplus 3 but theres a crackling sound coming from the speakers and when im using earphones. And the hotfix doesnt work for OOS 3.2.7.
[Android Software Development] schneitz:
[MENTION=5060769]Mostafa Wael[/MENTION]

I can confirm that hotfix to prevent speaker crackling don't works on OOS 3.2.7.

Headphone Sound is good, like it ever was.

The hotfix work s on 3.2.6, but not 100%, like I sad in PM.

But crackling was so minimal that it doesn't bother me.

On 3.2.7 you cant ignore it! Crackling is very present.

[MENTION=6323421]jiyoohji[/MENTION] My Headphones sounds good after installing the hotfix. I can't confirm crackling on headphones.

Did you installed it while fresh?
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
I may have something in the works for that

Need to ask [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] first
[Android Software Development] schneitz:
Sounds good...
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Try this, worked like a charm on OOS 3.2.7

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5u2qipefzk9zjh/Atlant_OP3_v2_mod4.zip?dl=0
[Android Software Development] schneitz:
Yeah it works.

Thanks to [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5060769]Mostafa Wael[/MENTION].
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
Lol i see what you did there.

I didnt ask what OP means... I askes what OP say.

And actually, not necessarily... It can mean two things.

1. Referring to the person who created the thread... As you said Original Poster.

2. Or referring to the 1st post on the thread by the original poster. This would be the Original Post.

Then in that case you did the best you could... It's up to Dev now to you and dev to identify cause of problem.
[Android Software Development] jiyoohji:
Lol! Sorry i misunderstood your comment. :laugh:

---------- Post added at 07:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:41 AM ----------

Yep i did a clean flash before installing this mod. Maybe its interfering with v4a or something. Anyway im gonna try the new hotfix when i got home.
[Android Software Development] :
I really strongly suggest you don't discuss ARISE here. You're bound to invite flames, as I expressed to you when you came into the ARISE thread and linked Ainur. What are you hoping to accomplish?
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
Yeh.. It still seems to be a kind of cold war here.

Experienced it first hand a couple pages back. O.O
[Android Software Development] tinjaladaniel:
Dear, you are right that the software they use just change the source, and therefore we don't listen the music for what it is. :(

But you have to think that music, as the artist conceives :good:, it needs to be reproduced by speakers which physically are able to play something decent. On our phones, we don't have DAC/AMP, nor even CIEMs or earphones at the highest level. So, all of us need softwares to emulate these realistic effects that make you feel the sound closer to the actual sound. Not to mention the fact that an audio track with 24bit depth and 192kHz sampling are physically IMPERCEPTIBLE by the human ear. Try taking a group of people and making them

listen blinded

the same song at 16 or 24 bit, on 44 or 48 and 192kHz ... you can't hear/feel the difference, it is the sound engineers who say that. If you take a track recorded directly in the recording studio, it's a 16 or 24bit not having the difference. If you take the track to be 24bit and converted to 16, then you feel the difference, but not because you're dealing with 16-bit track but because the converter reduces the quality of the track.

I know I don't have good English but I hope I have made clear because I see that someone has confused ideas. Do not get mental saws because mathematically there is a lot of difference between 16 and 24 bit, too bad that

not even the finest human ear is able to distinguish it

.
[Android Software Development] kunkidou6591:
Then its about the time humanity put audiophile stuff to end :)
[Android Software Development] tinjaladaniel:
Listening to music is totally subjective. The digitization of the sound is a mathematical-physical process. It not always what is demonstrably with math (see the difference between 16 and 24 bit) can be translated into sensory-perceptual terms ;):angel:

What I find right is to be optimized/exploited the technical part (DAC/AMP, etc.) because it rightly as UltraM8 said, is the key part ... be able to take full advantage of the hardware part.

PS: UltraM8 Could you do something for Meizu Pro 5, as part of the audio hardware has much to envy? Meanwhile, I thank you for the work done;)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
There is not much can be done to MTK cpu's - i started making mod over 4pda where 90% of people are using chinese phones with MTK & i have meizu m2. The only thing can be done - Pandora or Offload hack (i still don't know how it's working on MTK, as it's policy is very different to what we see on QC).
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
To all others people above speculating on what is the sound, etc. - search for what [MENTION=4741431]theoctavist[/MENTION] has written in this thread. If you like external effects - feel free to use them, just keep in mind that 70% of them can't be fully ported, therefore not working by any means. If there is something that can influence hw processing - i'm on the board, pls share your knowlegde on it with us. This is the only ideology I'm sticking.
[Android Software Development] theoctavist:
Hurricane Matthew hit my town hard, flooded, lots of damage. Anyway, we just got power back. I'll have the graphs for you by the end of the day
[Android Software Development] tinjaladaniel:
Meizu Pro 5 has the same SoC of Samsung S6 (Exynos 7420), not MTK.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Ops, sry) Then wait till major update that might include S6 version - maybe it'll fit in
[Android Software Development] kunkidou6591:
Im with you in this part mate, my ears keep demand more with your mod ?? i think you should put your words in the first page as your mod main idea and philosophy
[Android Software Development] :
The last time I tried Kronos on my HTC 10, the games I played had lots of input lag. Any way to remedy this?
[Android Software Development] ervanthe:
Yup been saying this for years, yet somehow my "audiophile" friends with their superman hearing always tells me otherwise [emoji6]
[Android Software Development] greenza:
I'm hoping to accomplish the best sound quality possible out of my HTC 10. My thoughts are if the hardware settings are tweaked to the max (AINUR) and the software settings are tweaked to the max (ARISE) this would create the mother of all sound mods.

I know I'm looking at this from a naive stand point and if someone can educate me into why this is a good/bad thing to do that would be great?
[Android Software Development] Kyuubi10:
I can see what you mean, and I agree.

And if you can look past all the flaming and general angst around you may be able to learn some valuable lessons.

Nothing wrong with ARISE per se... In fact with each version it gets better.

The problem is to have multiple effects running together is recipe for disaster. I ran a test last week where I had native HTC 10 dolby running, and dolby atmos on top.

The sound, although clear was over processed and it was peaking/distorting at various frequencies.

With ARISE you'll notice it started with multiple effects, but with each version it has less and less. Deuteronomy has the least amount of effects of all versions. That is simply because keeping it simple is always best and more manageable.

Regarding hardware mods, let's get one thing straight... Ainur is not yet a hardware mod.

Have a look at biQuaids mod by [MENTION=2760454]chdloc[/MENTION].

That is a true hardware mod... And have a look at [MENTION=281070]bjrmd[/MENTION]'s mod as well.

But hardware mods tend not to be dynamically adjustable, so until a definitive improvement is achieved it's difficult to have a proper "mod" which guarantees an improvement.

What i'm most interested in at the moment is attempting to gain further control of the hexagon DSP. That way you can have dynamically adjustable hardware mods. And we'll enter a whole new stage of android audio mods.
[Android Software Development] greenza:
Thank you for your indepth answer. What take from this is that mixing the sound mods (AINUR + ARISE) would most probably worsen the sound clarity and therefore not worth implementing. The other sound mods look interesting and I might try exploring into them in the future.

Would the AcousticX mod on its inner be worth running with ARISE or would this run into the same issues?