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[Android Software Development] anujyadava:
Yes it works good
[Android Software Development] ifnkemlptr:
Thanks a lot.

Btw, a noob question. Since I applied Sauron (I was using Nero before), my Real Drum is laggy. Sometimes when I tap on hi hat or crash, it doesn't sound out.

Is it because my phone is too incapable? Since, from what I know Sauron is focusing on HW accelaration to produce better sound, while Nero is annihilating :D all of lib files that actually diminishing the quality of sound.

Am I right?

My assumption is also because I noticed the difference of the drum sounds before and after I installed Sauron (from phone speaker).

When I used Nero, the drum sounds are too artificial, while Sauron produce identically the same drum sounds with my songs.

I'm using Xiaomi Rolex Mi 4a

This might also a noob question:

Is it possible to separate apps/ or libs used for BT and for wired earphones?

I am way too much satisfied with Ainur Sauron + Dirac add for my wired earphones.

However, I also need a louder sound for my BT earphones, which you said it is possibly gained from Dolby.

I don't want to depend only on Dolby for my wired since it's a software effect, while my audio files are lossless.
[Android Software Development] mohand06:
V4A and jdsp can also be used for louder sound on bt, still I prefer dolby
[Android Software Development] ifnkemlptr:
still software effect.. that's why I don't use v4a
[Android Software Development] gehess:
That said, if you're using your phone to test mixes of your own music, firstly I approve of your thoroughness, but also the less effects applied the better (unless you are going to incorporate the effects into the final mix). Atmos, V4A, etc. are all just effects, no matter if they use hardware or software to function. Fine for personal use, but if you're wanting consistency across devices then naturally they either all have to use the same effects or none at all.
[Android Software Development] ifnkemlptr:
That's why I only install Dirac (hexagonal HW) for the add on. :o It's used for some of my 320 Kbps mp3's...

However, thanks for your reply....

Eventually, I am stubborn enough to not change to sw effect. hehe..

I don't wanna sacrifice the satisfaction I am getting from my wired....I prefer to throw my BT earphone away, instead :D
[Android Software Development] piptron:
[MENTION=225651]op[/MENTION] tried the latest zip, now a hi-fi logo beneath the headphone icon appears. I can now use the hi-res option in poweramp (Variant says "Lenovo Hi-Fi") not like in the prev version of ainur sauron. Problem is im trying to down sample from 48khz(default) to 44.1khz. Bit I cant seem to do so. Same with 24-bit to 16-bit. I currently use a Lenovo Vibe P1. Please help. Thanks
[Android Software Development] mohand06:
As long as the output doesn't get distorted or unpleasantly modified it doesn't matter if it's sw or hw. Isn't that you're looking for?
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Hiby player is downsampling everything to 16/44.1
[Android Software Development] ifnkemlptr:
I was looking for something for my BT IEM, while have totally satisfied with my daily wired IEM. So, if I can't afford that I'd be just okay..

Actually, using sw effects would make my lossless files redundant.

As you perhaps have known, it's, sw effects, reducing the output to 48Khz (my files has over 96Khz).

If the majority of my audio files are mp3 or other lossies I'd be happy to depend on sw effects...
[Android Software Development] uudruid74:
What makes you think that SW can't handle higher resolution audio? Actually, hardware is often short-sighted and you have to implement newer and/or better code in software. Software doesn't have a 48KHz limit but a particular piece of software might. You need better software. You cant ask for new hardware effects unless you buy a new phone
[Android Software Development] ifnkemlptr:
Sorry if I turned out wrong. I might've wrongly understand many discussions, either in v4a thread or this thread during the 'war'.

However, I was just asking about BT stuffs above just in case I missed something. But, if there's no software, trick or whatever, that can separate audio app used for BT and wired IEM it's no problem. :)

Further, I haven't read the discussion about Dolby, whether it able to produce high resolution audio or not. That's why I am so stubborn. Hehe...

Then, you perhaps would give me an enlightenment?
[Android Software Development] Donric13:
Seems actual Ainur James has problems on my pixel xl. James DSP fc everytime. Only way to make it work was to install Sauron MK II (old version) and James DSP 2.1. As stated in an earlier post, James DSP seems to need some overworking in actual Sauron. I was just wondering because i think, the combo of Sauron MK II (revision 2 from 8.2.) worked with James DSP before. But i don't know which James DSP. I updated last weekend. But maybe i am wrong (just had to set up my mobile today from scratch... to much flashing custom roms). Anyway i am glad to made it work on an earlier version. Am i the only one? Didn't found much info about this.
[Android Software Development] gehess:
OK, so I finally had a chance to freshly install the latest versions of V4A, Dolby Atmos (Axon 7) and Sauron (in that order) and they all work together via su.

Maybe it's my phone (HTC One M7), my ROM (latest AICP), my firmware (latest GPE), I don't know what's making stuff work. I just hope when I eventually upgrade my phone I find one that seems to allow modding as easily. :)
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
There was a lingering magisk.img file in my data/adb/ folder so the mod was detecting I had magisk installed tried to install another version of v4a and it pointed me to the folder
[Android Software Development] gehess:
Cool. So is it working for you with su now?

I used to have magisk installed, but haven't for a while (su is fine for me) and fortunately when I'm installing V4A, Atmos or Sauron they don't seem to detect any previous magisk files or folders. Odd that they do for you. :confused:
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
Yeah I deleted the file and everything is working flawlessly I dirty flash and used the magisk uninstaller before so idk why that file wasn't deleted
[Android Software Development] SacredDeviL666:
Member Conduct

Thread Cleaned.

Thanks

XDA Staff.
[Android Software Development] loquito09:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] the mixer dump doesn't work and there is not Amplifiers config. I'm using this stock debloated lollipop rom.
[Android Software Development] Jsilver73:
OMG - I've been using this on my op5 for, well, since the beginning of time lol. I love how stable it is, tbh I tried messing with the user options but for my tastes I couldn't get any better sound than how it comes out of the box, and, I couldn't be arsed with all the messing and instability caused by tweaking because I'm lazy haha. Similarly, I've tried to get v4a and dolby working because I've seen other users reporting these mods working but with no success, and, again, I'm lazy and very happy with the sound I get from Sauron anyway!

So, I got a bit of time at the weekend and rooted by Android box n95x with magisk and put Sauron in it. At first I thought my sound was broken then after some small time listening realised it wasn't broken, actually, I was hearing what the sound should sound like, it's like night and day, and through my amps running dolby 5.1 natively and full surround sound speaker system, I can actually hear the sound moving perfectly (all around you) just like the cinema hehe.

Just thought I needed to come here to give a little feedback of my experiences with Sauron and say thank you to the whole team :D

Very happy customer here - donation to follow when I get paid at the end of the month ;)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Good to know android tv boxes can be tuned. Can u pm me in telegram i have several questions?
[Android Software Development] gehess:
So why not MK II.II? Or 2o.o2? Tu.tu? :D

edit: I just noticed your SAURON MK II.I (21.02) link still points to the (20.08).zip
[Android Software Development] Donric13:
Thanks. Still got fc on this version of James dsp on my pixel xl. Old version (12.17) working fine on my device (old version of sauron and james dsp). Just for info.
[Android Software Development] Mithias:
Excellent! Updated on mine and things are sounding gooooood
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
The download is showing 20.08 is this the latest version?
[Android Software Development] Jsilver73:
No, the download through magisk download is most recent.
[Android Software Development] Mark_Draconian:
It's amazing how Sauron alone can make things sound so crisp and good. :)
[Android Software Development] gehess:
The front page links to version 20.08. What version is through magisk?
[Android Software Development] sgtslaughter64:
Is there a version that works with SuperSU?
[Android Software Development] gehess:
All of them. We're just trying to determine if the latest version on the front page is the same version as the one available in magisk.
[Android Software Development] Jsilver73:
Don't think so, the file date is old
[Android Software Development] gehess:
Hey UltraM8, could us poor su users please have the latest version posted on the front page?

Can't let all those magisk-kids have all the fun. ;)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
It is, i just messed up the date lol:p
[Android Software Development] carlchan31:
I also wanted to know the answer to this.

Anyways thanks to OP for the hard work!
[Android Software Development] juanantofb:
Hi, [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] please check this files to confirm if Axon 7 Mini with LOS 14.1, is using AK4962 DAC:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl761eh7r9va9q1/Axon7Mini-LOS.zip?dl=0

Thanks.
[Android Software Development] tsalta:
well i skipped the previous Update from 07.02-08.02 because like i sayd something was missing i know how Sauron SOUND Like so i went back to the 1`st MK 2 Sauron for the SOUND.

Now i just flash the latest from 21.02 WELL

The Sauron BEAST is Back now its Sound even Superior than my favorite Build.

I don`t know do im crazy Audiophile or what UltraM know better what he changed and what was the problem in the previous build but this Latest Sauron have nothing to do in Sound Comparsion to the previous one!

Thank you for the Great Work and Respect for the spended Hours of Developing such an Amazing Modiffication we to hear every tone of our Music!

Respect [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

Sauron Alone with Forced 32Bit Audio and ShoeBox Enabled plus FLAC music is a Blessing for the Soul.

I hear they Wishper gently in my ears the Music is Love!
[Android Software Development] dyval:
[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] Bro I updated to Oreo and forgot to utilize the user options file when I flashed Ainur Audio. Can I just edit the file and reboot or do I need to uninstall and flash the MOD again? thanks :good:
[Android Software Development] likeBuddha:
If you did not format internal storage, the sauron user options should've remained untouched. Which means you need not re-install sauron.

Otherwise, if you formatted internal storage. Uninstall Sauron. Reboot. Edit uswr options. Reinstall Sauron.
[Android Software Development] hitesh748-:
Which file download for one plus 3t ?I am using omni rom 8.1.0 ?Please provide link ❤
[Android Software Development] likeBuddha:
If you're using Magisk, you can easily find the download in the Magisk Manager.

If you're using SuperSu, download the file from the second post. There is a link to Google Drive, I believe.

You must be rooted, and with a custom recovery for this to work.
[Android Software Development] hitesh748-:
Thank you ...I already install magsik
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Reflashing mandatory for UO to pick up.
[Android Software Development] Hacker101:
How do I go about actually using this? Is there an app i use or or some type of UI i should have gotten to use during the flashing process to set something up...
[Android Software Development] gehess:
You want to use Sauron?

Sauron is developed in Russia, so... Sauron use you! :D

But seriously man, use "search thread". This has been asked dozens of times and you're a senior member who should know better.
[Android Software Development] l3vi47h4n:
Sauron for Linux?

Do you have any intention to support desktop Linux via either gstreamer, alsa, or pulseaudio integration? If not, is this something you would be willing to work together to produce? I had an individual who mentioned this in my support group of the Viper4Linux system.

For reference/the curious:

https://github.com/L3vi47h4N/Viper4Linux
[Android Software Development] Hacker101:
I cannot find any Sauron user option folder anywhere on my phone after flashing this.
[Android Software Development] jcmm11:
Not a folder. A file named "sauron_useroptions" found in the root of internal storage. eg /sdcard/sauron_useroptions

/storage/emulated/0/sauron_useroptions
[Android Software Development] Hacker101:
I cannot find anything in my phone with the name "sauron_useroptions". I've searched every folder and file in my phone and found nothing.
[Android Software Development] DaveedDB:
You need to extract it from the sauron zip then put it in the root of your internal sd
[Android Software Development] Hacker101:
I did that. Then edited everything I wanted. Re flashed the zip (Is that correct) then rebooted....Nothing happened. YouTube and all other apps sound the same.
[Android Software Development] gimpy1:
The initial download of that zip is listed as "Ainur Sauron..".

Did you find the user option?

At least in my "root explorer".

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Unfortunately, there is no easy way (at least for me) to be able to "visually" see that you have installed the modification properly. It is all via audio, which can make it very difficult to tell that the mods have been installed correctly and is working as it should.
[Android Software Development] jumpychampak:
Hey guys, it says axon 7/mini in the main post here, but I haven't seen any actual confirmation that Sauron works on the axon 7 mini. I ask because it has a different DAC from the big axon7 (AK4962 rather than AK4961). I'm not sure if that makes any difference. I'll be flashing it tonight, but I'd appreciate some advice on how to check if Sauron is actually working.
[Android Software Development] gaarr:
anyone tested it on galaxy s8 exynos sm-950fd

i tried but it didn't work on galaxy s8 exynos sm-950fd stock rom rooted magisk v16

flashed SAURON MK II.I through twrp

selinux is set to enforcing

i dont know what i am doing wrong is it something to do with selinux or permission ?any idea?
[Android Software Development] gimpy1:
Did you go into sauron.options and put true on some of the options? You do this in a file manager. Once you do that, you back out of file manager, then just reflash the zip.
[Android Software Development] Againstt:
Hello, anyone have tips to install this on LOS since LOS have AudioFX wich does not work with this mod?
[Android Software Development] :
I think you simply can't use audiofx if you flash this, sorry :crying:
[Android Software Development] Againstt:
Thats fine by me. But I would rather not have Audiofx force crash all the time
[Android Software Development] paarthkhatri:
Just disable the app aur delete it from the system folder if you don't use audio fx
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
Use Kronos) The update may be released soon
[Android Software Development] theoctavist:
That's the point I think. Removal of all the placebo , things in the signal path. Although you can use viper and .IRS files in conjunction with asm
[Android Software Development] greenza:
Sorry if this has been asked already but once I've flashed Acoustix & KRONOS 10 v2 on HTC 10 do I also need to flash the Universal Mod as well?
[Android Software Development] Sir_gpm:
No you are just fine, the universal mod is just for the rest of us. Enjoy!
[Android Software Development] :
So, help me understand what's going on technically here.

As far as I can tell, Acoustix writes to the files that configure the inbuilt Dolby on HTC M8/9/10 and replaces the presets available, and optionally installs Atmos and custom presets for it. So, as best I understand, performing the "hack" of removing /soundfx completely would undo the work done by Acoustix. I'm trying to see where there's an improvement on the hardware level as is claimed.

Meanwhile, it looks like Ainur KRONOS writes to the HTC specific /etc audio effect/policy files, mixer paths, sound confs, replaces all default soundfx, and configures ALSA. How much, if any, of this is preserved when performing the "hack"? Are these files configuring audio on a hardware level somehow, and if so, how?

I tried Acoustix v28 and KRONOS M9 v5, no Atmos, no IntenseBLAST, thinking I'd be achieving essentially the best sound this hardware platform is capable of, and it fell very flat for my tastes. I then tried performing the "hack" so that I'd be hearing only hw effects (as I understand) and the resulting sound from that was even weaker - weaker even than the stock sound from M9''s stock ROM/Dolby.

If this is indeed the sound of my DAC, and the best HW-only sound I'm going to achieve on this device, I think I'd choose the SW effects at the end of the day. Hope this feedback helps somehow. :good:
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
What is meant to be "weaker"? Less bass? Idk on what format you listen to, but most of 24/192 flacs are flat FRF - thats why many people can't stand it. What is more important - headphones. Take a look at Biquads thread by chdloc - this might help with tuning mixer for your preferences.
[Android Software Development] :
Generally listening at 16/44.1 320kbps mp3. "Weaker" meaning yes, bass response is almost absent, mids get lost in the mix, highs are harsh and not well detailed. I'll look into tuning further but most likely I'll end up staying a SW effect heathen. Thanks for your reply UltraM8. :good:
[Android Software Development] Hopie:
uninstall boomsound at acoustix?

sent from my HTC One M7 powered by ViperOne
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
You can leave it for speakers (still they sound better without dolby, i also modded their output)
[Android Software Development] Ratedxr:
Alright i tried Ainur Pandora on my device which is xiaomi redmi note 3g runs on android 4.4.2, i did add the lines in the build.prop and im sure there is huge change in audio quality. Im not sure if this is suppose to work on android 4.4 but great job on this mod. Looking forward to the future development on this mod :good:
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
We can even try to run it on 2.3)
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Brace yourselves! #Hype ;)
[Android Software Development] Hopie:
great for htc10.. waiting for htc m7 ?

Sent from my HTC 10 powered by Viper10
[Android Software Development] ervanthe:
Soo im on kitkat..so i should flash pandora right?
[Android Software Development] purian23:
Buddy it was literally just answered 3 posts above your question. Plus it's in the OP.
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Atlant release!

Hello fellas! I know you know it was coming, you heard that coming, and here it comes! Atlant v1 is here for S820 devices!

It is basically Kronos_10 ported to S820 devices, though there is a bit of trimming has been done to make it that 'universally' compatible.

Below you will find two editions: a normal one, and a 'compatible' one. If you face problems with the first zip, specially with music speaker playback, revert to stock system by either reflashing your ROM with no wipes then installing the 'compatible' one, or by restoring a previously made nandroid backup of your /system when it was stock then flashing the 'compatible' zip.

Post will be updated with links to the zips shortly :)

I would like to thank [MENTION=6342596]schneitz[/MENTION] for his thoroughly detailed testing and of course [MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION] as being the original author; without him this would have never happened :victory:

This zip has been tested only on the OP3 running AOSP-based ROM OrionOS, HydrogenOS latest stable and OxygenOS 3.2.4.

Note: there may be an even newer version incoming from the dev himself when he gets free time and does his magic and his own corrections, so consider this like a 'snooze' edition :D

UPDATE: Here we go. The links to the Atlant_Normal_v1.0 and to the Atlant_Compatible_v1.0

NOTE:

I strongly recommend backing up your /system in TWRP beforehand, for easy revert and basically since this has not been tested on a myriad of devices :o
[Android Software Development] theoctavist:
You need to be listening double blind..or better still.using A/B/X comparator..otherwise your results are invalid
[Android Software Development] :
I have been using ABX comparator. Thanks for your opinion. :good:
[Android Software Development] theoctavist:
Good on you! You are a minority

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I'm using a function generator (wide band with noise) and capturing the output before and after mods. Interesting results :good:
[Android Software Development] Mostafa Wael:
Well sadly my ears (and guts) are the sole measuring tools for me, but I am sure my ears now are a bit more accurate than it was months ago ;)
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
I don't have any interest for desktop OS's. I'm more into hardware now:p
[Android Software Development] :
I think you can't disable it by default, but apps like SD maid can do this for you. That's also how I do it. Of course you can also uninstall it.
[Android Software Development] l3vi47h4n:
In that case, any chance we could get some x86_64 libraries and some interaction documentation? I'd be interested in porting it.
[Android Software Development] Againstt:
How can i uninstall it?
[Android Software Development] :
Either with a root file manager (delete the folder AudioFX in system/priv-app) or with TWRP recovery with the build in file manger. To do this you need to boot into TWRP recovery (obviously) select mount, then tick system, return to main menu and select advanced, then file manger. Now you navigate to the same folder mentioned above and delete it. Then reboot.
[Android Software Development] UltraM8:
For Sauron?
[Android Software Development] nericollin:
Has anyone had trouble saving changes to the user options file? I can't seem to edit it and successfully save it without getting an error
[Android Software Development] l3vi47h4n:
Yep! If it were made into a gstreamer plugin, then using my current framework for Viper would carry over quite nicely. I just reference directly against their library using a gstreamer plugin. Same concept I'd be implementing with Sauron. It would be almost identical to Viper4Linux previously linked, just leveraging Sauron's libraries instead on Viper's. I'd cite you of course.
[Android Software Development] gehess:
:eek:
[Android Software Development] gaarr:
there is a lot of qualcomm options but there is only two Universal options

my device is not Qualcomm it is exynos

i test with install.fmas=true

but how to know if its working or not ? sm-g950fd
[Android Software Development] gehess:
Well, I just posted an answer literally right before your post. :D

However, I am curious if there are any other ways people test for audio changes.

Let us know.

edit: As UltraM8 previously posted:

Yes, the user has to do the work, but doing it yourself really is the only way to know for sure. An "on/off" GUI can lie and a waveform and/or spectral graph gives you so much more detail and evidence that the sound output is actually altered.
[Android Software Development] gaarr:
how to make sound graphs & compare them ?

also does SAURON work on exynos galaxy s8 did anyone tested it?
[Android Software Development] derders:
Samsung S6 flat tinymix files

[MENTION=6366997]UltraM8[/MENTION]

ROM: https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/rom-resurrectionremix-t3692900