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[SuperSU] kidlerek:
After flash suhide v0.55 & SuperSU v2.78 SR1 I have error in SaftyNet helper "CTS profile match: false". Any ideas?

My device: OnePlus3 with stock rom 2.3.7
[SuperSU] mattzeller:
I tested AirWatch for someone about a month and a half ago, manually adding it to suhide worked

Sent from my SCH-R220
[SuperSU] imarq24:
OK so how do you manually add it...in the op?
[SuperSU] mattzeller:
It's in the first post at the bottom under Blacklisting an app

Sent from my SCH-R220
[SuperSU] lg-ks20:
Via automate, you don't have to toggle off in root switch in order to play PoGo & apps that require root. It is working fine on my 1+1 with stock COS 13.1.2.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69124925&postcount=2504

As for tasker, you may get some helpful information at page 388.

http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396/post69246178#post69246178
[SuperSU] Not So Pro:
This may not be the right place for this question but I'm having a slight problem with Snapchat and Snapprefs using SuHide and Xposed 86.2(Systemless). I was using a jenkins build of Snapprefs that was stable on Xposed 86.6(Systemless) with Magisk and Snapchat 9.39.5.0. I wanted to see if I could get SuHide working with Xposed so I could pass SafteyNet and I did(Green after using rootswitch and disabling root). Now with SuHide and Xposed 86.2(Systemless), whenever I take a picture Snapchat closes after a couple seconds. No alert dialog saying it crashed or anything. The rest of Snapprefs and Snapchat works(saving other snaps, viewing snaps, text customization, etc). I've tried disabling various features but to no avail. Has anyone else had this issue or is the only solution to go back to 86.6? Currently running a Nexus 6, Android 6.0.1(Pure Nexus) w/ Franco Kernel r52. If you need a logcat let me know. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
[SuperSU] soder:
Just to be clear: There is no way of just flying under the radar, without having to toggle root manual or automatic?

/Söder
[SuperSU] Frankyg:
Hi, just wondering what steps you took to get it working like a charm?!

I dirty flashed from N4 to N6, flashed the suhide v.055 and installed the SUhide GUI app. Does the SUhide app work for you, or did you have to do something else?

I also tried root switcher without success and have now removed it.

Still getting fails with safety net and android pay.

Thanks,

Frankyg
[SuperSU] HeNaFi:
Try to flash suhide v55 with the flash fire app. For some reason when I flash suhide with TWRP on one particular phone, safetynet fails.
[SuperSU] leolawliet:
With SuperSU.78 SR3 and suhide and Root Switch I'm still able to bypass SafetyNet detection, but it doesn't stop AP from not working. Weird.
[SuperSU] RayMcGrath:
I don't know if it fixes it but SuperSU.78sr4 is available.

https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/CBL8pnKtA8F

:svetius:
[SuperSU] mattzeller:
It's really for Pixel devices, and Nexus devices with the encryption issue

Sent from my SCH-R220
[SuperSU] oTeMpLo:
Any cahance someone makes suhide compatible with november update?
[SuperSU] ljon:
Microsoft Intune Company Portal

Has anyone here get suhide to avoid root detection from Microsoft Intune Company Portal ?

I have addeed the UID for the packagename com.microsoft.windowsintune.companyportal

How can I veriffy that suhide works as it should?
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
It doesn't work for me. I try to flash by flashfire app but I see black screen and nothning else.
[SuperSU] DLloyd:
Tried many occasions to install but I'm having bootloop everytime, inc tried clean boot after factory reset?
[SuperSU] dratsablive:
What version of Android? Suhide has bootloop issue with 7.1.
[SuperSU] DLloyd:
7.1... ???* Thanks though ????
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
Its not the android version but the November Security Patch, all roms that have the Google November Security patch will face issues. 6.x and 7.x roms, the same apply to Xposed, normal and systemless.
[SuperSU] Demicro:
J510FN

SUHide

Does not work in J510FN stays in the samsung logo:(

with magisk and sposedmodule

and without magisk

supersu beta 2.78 last
[SuperSU] HeNaFi:
What phone do you have?
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
Oneplus 3, latest stock rom

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[SuperSU] Alxoom33:
Tried SuHide v.0.55 with SuperSU 2.78 SR4 and it is still bootlooping on Android 7.1.1 beta. Pixel C
[SuperSU] corkiejp:
Quote from here.
[SuperSU] Alxoom33:
Thanks, I knew that bootlooping was a known issue for Suhide v.0.55, but I wanted to see if SuperSu 2.78 SR4 changed anything. Guess not. Hopefully, there will eventually be a version that works on Android 7.1.1
[SuperSU] dratsablive:
It's not just the November security patch. I am on the developer preview since October and the bootloop is there as well.
[SuperSU] orir:
I have:

- Xposed V86.6

- Magisk V8

- PHH superuser

Will it work fine or must I switch to SuperSu?
[SuperSU] Portgas D. Ace:
Depends on what you are trying to do. If you are trying to pass Safety Net, then the answer is: your setup won't work, as Xposed triggers SN. You have to use the method from the OP.
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
Because your preview already contained the patch Google released over November Security patch to 6.x and 7.x android... My bet your preview was made after the October patch release. It got more updated in security patch.

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[SuperSU] orir:
I have:

- Xposed V86.6

- Magisk V8

- PHH superuser

Will it work fine or must I switch to SuperSu?

I want to block the AirWatch app my company forces to install.

I dont understand what you meant here: your setup won't work, as Xposed triggers SN.
[SuperSU] Portgas D. Ace:
If you are trying to pass Safety Net, your setup won't work as Xposed is detected by Safety Net and thus Safety Net won't pass. But you are trying to do other things.

I don't know what you have in mind how to block the AirWatch app, so I can't give any comments about it. Could you explain?
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
What's the method from OP?

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[SuperSU] Portgas D. Ace:
The one written there. OP = first post.
[SuperSU] li0nsar3c00l:
Is there any solution with xposed for samsung?
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
It doesn't work on oneplus 3

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[SuperSU] Portgas D. Ace:
What exactly doesn't work? Is there some file that can't be flashed? Do you encounter a bootloop? Does your system crash afterwards? Aren't you able to pass Safety Net? Just saying "it doesn't work" is rather useless for troubleshooting.
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
Sorry. I can't pass Safetynet: "Cts profile match failed"
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
Did you also installed Root Switch?

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[SuperSU] kidlerek:
No, only suhide and add android pay for Block list

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[SuperSU] Triviox:
Whats device? Cm13 works great in Galaxy s5 g900m
[SuperSU] li0nsar3c00l:
Im running a galaxy s5 g900f with android 6.0.1 stock rom and xposed 86 by wanam. When i try to install latest suhide, i get an exception regarding xposed version
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
You need to install Root Switch and disable root prior to use any app that uses safety net. That's all. You need Suhide + Root switch

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[SuperSU] kidlerek:
I installed root switch, disable root and It doesn't work. I See "response payload verification failed"

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[SuperSU] Conan179:
whrer can i find root switch?
[SuperSU] Triviox:
Try IT, works for me.. I pass safetynet / play PoGO with Xposed working :)
[SuperSU] izeeqo:
It works with CM13 ROM?
[SuperSU] Triviox:
Yes.. with CM13 nights y can confirm WORKS OK in S5 G500M; others users confirm works in others devices (S3, S5 G900F,...)
[SuperSU] li0nsar3c00l:
did anyone tried this with the stock rom?
[SuperSU] Triviox:
I did, with MM Stock in S5 G900M (some month ago); i had bootloops, really bad performance (PoGo crash and play very ver slow..), after all reboot system try "optimize all apk", but not real optimize.

Short answer: Dont try use supersu systemless + suhide + xposed systemless over stock rom (i read other Samsung users with same problem..i think its a isse in all stock samsung roms).

Try CM13 if have it to your device, CM13 its a great rom!! :D

Good luck!
[SuperSU] li0nsar3c00l:
I know it, but I love the touchwiz rom. Had bootloops too today, I'm tryint to find an other way for now
[SuperSU] dratsablive:
Um no, I am still on the October security patch, no November patch was released or the Developer preview.
[SuperSU] koko115:
Any one have fix for safetynet pass in Galaxy S7Edge deodex kernel stock enforcing xposed 86.6 magisk v9 supersu SR4 ?
[SuperSU] orir:
AirWatch is an app which enables me to go to my company mail and calendar Exchange.

Without it I cant and when trying to install it says my device is compromised (Rooted).

So, like what xposed module unWatch, tried to do, is to let AirWatch think the device is un-rooted.
[SuperSU] Portgas D. Ace:
Then you should proceed as described in the OP and also install root switch app. Make sure that there is no "su" file in both /system/bin and /system/xbin. If you find some "su" file in one or both of the named paths, delete them and reboot. Then the method with root switch should work.
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
Now I flash new supersu v2. 78 sr4 and switch root 1.3.3.2 and then also I can't pass Safetynet on my op3. I check and I don't have su files on /system/bin and xbin.
[SuperSU] Artim_96:
No. XPosed will trip it

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Maybe unlocked bootloader? That can only be hidden by prepared kernels
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
Thats normal, but your preview already have the commit, not as security patch, for 7.1 and 6.0.1 it was released on November Security Patch. But for you, it was already included on rom part. The security patch its a bunch of stuff, not only this.
[SuperSU] mattzeller:
Suhide works for hiding AirWatch

Sent from my SCH-R220
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
Looks like suhide isn't working for Qapital anymore.

I have real money invested and I can't get it out now. Great.
[SuperSU] dimm0k:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] LGV10 device running Marshmallow here with TWRP 3.0.2 and have tried 2.78 SR3 and SR4 systemlessly and am not able to pass SafetyNet with suhide 0.55. if I remove SuperSU I am then able to pass... if there's anything needed to correct this, please let me know!
[SuperSU] TechMillz93:
Stopped working for me?

I have adidas confirmed, android pay safetynet checked off but they still see root
[SuperSU] EViollet:
Have you tried rootswitch?

Envoyé de mon ONEPLUS A3003 en utilisant Tapatalk
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
I haven't heard of it. Can you please share more?
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/tw/foru...0Nzk1fDY3NzUwYjQ1fDE0NzkzMTM4MDZ8MHwxNzM1NDI=

Yes, I have prepared kernel - ElementalX-OP3-0.27 and "Response payload validation failed"
[SuperSU] RandomPooka:
You could always fully unroot and get your money. I don't care how many root features I use, my money is more important.
[SuperSU] access9:
That sucks, and this is not meant to be mean or a jab, but putting it bluntly: you should not depend on an experimental, unsupported mod when your personal finance is at stake.
[SuperSU] Fangs87:
Do you have a link to the main thread to follow, instead of the download? I didnt see they had a new version still on 1.3.1.2
[SuperSU] kidlerek:
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/tw/thread-173542-1-1.html
[SuperSU] Fangs87:
Cool thanks, looks like i'm still waiting for a newer version of suhide or something else, but at least have the update rootswitch.
[SuperSU] Donjuanal:
There is really no evidence of a newer version of suhide coming. Chainfire said this an experimental and likely futile exercise. I know currently magisk v9 and phh superuser is passing safetynet. Unfortunately it's just too much work to stay on top of bypassing the API, I've given up trying.
[SuperSU] G U C C I:
It still works just fine guys!
[SuperSU] Donjuanal:
Not if you're on a 7.0 or 7.1 ROM. suhide bootloops and CTS profile mismatch is not fixed with systemless SuperSU and rootswitch.
[SuperSU] fire7777777:
is there any new for november patch security in stock rom google?
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
I could do this. It was working fine with RootCloak, and initially with suhide. I just looked at the version history, and according to the Play store, it was updated only a few weeks ago. That was about the last time I took a peek at it.

Interestingly, Stash is still working.

Well, consider it a lesson learned.
[SuperSU] G U C C I:
I know. That's why I haven't jumped to cm14.1 yet! And also because no Xposed support either.
[SuperSU] TechMillz93:
Anyone on 7.0 nexus 6p have this working
[SuperSU] MeetFace:
I did at one time, but have to the last couple weeks...easier to just carry my CC then jump through different hoops every other day to use AndroidPay
[SuperSU] TechMillz93:
So then there's no point in this anymore since it's blocked from 7.0 and up
[SuperSU] Fenny:
Works fine on 7.0+ :)

Just need to patch the right things.
[SuperSU] TechMillz93:
? Explain lol
[SuperSU] Fenny:
http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396/post69617513

http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396/post69625310
[SuperSU] Jayman007:
not sure about your phone model but on my nexus 5x I fail just for having an unlocked bootloader. The solution for that is to flash a custom kernel (franco in my case) that does not report the status of the bootloader lock and therefor does not fail on that basis. I then have to use suhide and rootswitch to get safetynet and AP to pass.

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did you try rootswitch as well?

If nothing works, you might have to unroot to access your account from your device.

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I'm on a 7.0 rom with October patches and using suhide, rootswitch, and franco kernel. I pass safetynet np. AP works fine. The Nov patch, on the other hand, causes my phone to not boot when combined with suhide.

I'm on a nexus 5x.

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I have it working on 7.0 nexus 5x. Should be able to get it working on 6p. Did you flash a new kernel like franco? It's available for 6P. You will need that to pass even unrooted if your bootloader is unlocked.
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
I just install the APK from the ZIP?
[SuperSU] Jayman007:
correct. Make sure you are using the latest 1.3.3.2.
[SuperSU] Keksdroid:
I cant install latest version, it says "cant mount /su".

What I tried so far: first flash latest SuperSU. Same Error. Then I deleted system/xbin/su, full unroot, flashed latest SuperSU, same error.

Any Ideas?

Nexus 5 here with Dirty Unicorns ROM.
[SuperSU] bobby janow:
Just for yucks, which version SuperSU ?
[SuperSU] Keksdroid:
2.78 SR1

My ROM is pre rooted...is that a problem?
[SuperSU] Federixbest:
I tried the same steps (flash supersubeta, then suhide, then supersubeta again) but when I reboot the phone, my supersu need an update (that if i do, it fails) and also I can't unroot them... what can I do?

(Sorry for bad english, I'm italian...)
[SuperSU] Keksdroid:
SuperSU Beta? You need SR1 Version, download it here https://download.chainfire.eu/1003/SuperSU/SR1-SuperSU-v2.78-SR1-20160915123031.zip
[SuperSU] Federixbest:
Sorry, I call it "supersubeta", but it's the same
[SuperSU] IM0001:
Confirmed working AP (Paid for lunch) and Pokémon GO.

Nexus 6P PN (8/21)MM and EX Kernel. (Nothing else)

One note, after flashing suhide and SuperSU RC1, you will probably have to reflash your kernel again as well. Noticed that messing with the .16 version and now this one.
[SuperSU] Joyslan:
I guess Custom ROM´s will fail most cases.

Same here, my friend, using a Nexus 5 with latest PureNexus. :crying:

And I guess that our Custom ROM's are fated to fail in this or any other version of SuHide.

Especially that ones pre-rooted, like mine. :rolleyes:

It seems a dead end.... so, a return to Stock is plausible.

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That just that contradicts what I just said about Custom ROM's.

I'm definetely lost! :eek:

Anyway, thanks man for report some success! :good:
[SuperSU] Keksdroid:
PN is pre rooted right? Is there anything you did before flashing suhide?
[SuperSU] bigknowz:
UnSu

Did you try unSu zip? [MENTION=4544860]osm0sis[/MENTION], does the script need to be updated for 2.78SR1?
[SuperSU] IM0001:
Pure Nexus is not pre rooted. (hasn't been for a while at least)
[SuperSU] dev_freak:
Got error "this device is incompatible" on Pokémon Go
[SuperSU] dratsablive:
What ROM are you using? I am on stock nougat and SU 2.7i SR1 and both AP and Pokémon are working for me. Did you flash latest SU and then latest SU Hide?
[SuperSU] dev_freak:
Flashed supersu afterwards, shouldn't I do that? Still nothing how do I find the UID?
[SuperSU] Keksdroid:
Just tried it. Still the same error.

Flashed unSu, SuperSu 2.78 SR1 and then tried suhide 0.50, but I'm getting error 1 can't mount /su
[SuperSU] Federixbest:
Someone help me?

I tried those steps:

Full unroot of SuperSU 2.78 stable

Flash SuperSU 2.78 SR1

Flash suhide 0.50

Flash SuperSU 2.78 SR1

At the reboot, my SuperSU app doesn't work app, it need update and also I can't do a full unroot...

What can I do?
[SuperSU] rhiome:
It sounds like you have suhide working and for me I am struggling. Do you think you could help me? I am not sure anything is getting installed when I run the suhide zip. There is nothing in the /data/adb/ directory so I think that is why I keep getting this error in terminal /data/adb/suhide-add 10216: not found.
[SuperSU] HamsterHam:
For everyone that I'd trying to block pokémon go, there's no need! It uses safetynet to block root so if suhide is flashed correctly it'll work!
[SuperSU] Sc4ryB3ar:
I can't really help seeing as it hides all if su for me and doesn't allow me to access things like root browser, so I've removed it... But you're barking up the wrong tree... Suhide-add was moved to su/suhide/Add UID....(that said, make sure it's actually in there), it is no longer in data/adb/. Hope this is helpful for you. All of that said...try using it without adding the UID to suhide-add... You may find that it works without having to do that.
[SuperSU] Super-Veloce:
Do I need to flash both suhide 0.50 files chainfire added to his post? Or only the biggest file?
[SuperSU] TechMillz93:
Im on stock 7.0 rooted, contemplating on going back to 7.1.1 not sure if it's worth it
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
Negatory. Didn't work. It almost looked like it wasn't able to disable SuperSU and Systemless XPosed (in fact, there's a disclaimer about this).
[SuperSU] Jayman007:
I'm not running xposed so I can't say what the workaround for hiding xposed is. I know magisk was being used for this at one point.
[SuperSU] afr33sl4ve:
Hmm... In trying to get Root Switch to work, I seem to have broken my SuperSU binary. Oh, well. I have a backup as of a few hours ago, without Magisk/Xposed. I'm gonna stick with those for now. My brother gave me a non-functional LG Optimus F3, and it still seems non-functional. I'm on the hunt for a cheap Android device. :p
[SuperSU] jinpansha98@gmail.com:
Phone not starting after suhide

[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]

the concept seems interesting :good:, while trying to install in my phone this errors occur.

when installed, when trying to boot, it gets stuck on boot animation.

but when i uninstall suhide phone boots immidiately.

then tried with liveboot, the log seemed to repeat something about

11,2400,46033038;init: Service config_bt_addr does not have a SELinux domain defined.
13,2401,46033053;init: Starting service 'config_bt_addr'...
13,2402,46047492;init: Service 'config_bt_addr' (pid 4723) exited with status 0
13,2403,46047510;init: Service 'config_bt_addr' (pid 4723) killing any children in process group
6,2404,47077495;reg8_status=0x6c.
6,2405,47086676;reg8_status=0x6c.
6,2406,47100349;reg8_status=0x6c.
6,2407,47101993;reg8_status=0x6c.
6,2408,47137114;reg8_status=0x6c.

i hope you can figure out what maybe the issue.

Logs for both normal boot and after installing suhide are attached below

Thank you for such an amazing development in android.

Phone: Lenovo Zuk Z1

Recovery: TWRP-3.0.2-0

SU : 2.78 (SR4)

ROM: NucleaRom-CM14.1
[SuperSU] danieldmm:
Your problem it's November Security Patch, already talked here couple of times...

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[SuperSU] Garethkungfu:
I attempted SUHide on a android TV box with a Amlogic S905x chip and it simply lost root, I was running TWRP 3.0.2 it seemed the latest SuperSu script removed the old binaries but then didnt update with anything. Any ideas? The box is android 6.0.1.
[SuperSU] grep_i:
Well flash it again maybe this time the binaries will stick to your device.
[SuperSU] Garethkungfu:
[MENTION=6952047]grep_i[/MENTION]

I did try, but nothing was bringing root back, I also tried with other SuperSu zips and for some reason it just wasnt happy
[SuperSU] grep_i:
You know that's the general purpose of suhide.

Hiding SuperSU binaries from your device ?

Try installing root switch to control when root is enabled/disabled search this thread for the link.

You're lucky I found it already root switch download link
[SuperSU] kryshnakishore:
Does freecharge app works with this module?
[SuperSU] pkelly517:
Actually, suhide hides the binaries from other apps. It doesn't hide it from the device.
[SuperSU] li0nsar3c00l:
fresh (stock)rom, with systemles supersu 2.78 SR4 and suhide(+gui) and Rootswitch-13.3.2 installed, show "response payload validation failed"

still using a SM-G900F. open for other suggestions
[SuperSU] grep_i:
Yes that's right root switch hides it for device, suhide for app per app controllable
[SuperSU] CakeWizard:
So from what I can gather there is absolutely no way to make this run on lollipop? Damn, I could get a marshmallow rom for my device but it breaks things.
[SuperSU] Vipriel:
Switch to Magisk v9 and PhhSuperuser R266-2. Enable MagiskHide, reboot and you're good to go (I have the same model phone as you). If you are using Xposed, then also use RootSwitch 1.3.3.2 to toggle off Xposed when you need to pass SafetyNet (you don't need to do use Root Switch for anything else in this configuration). If you are not using Xposed, you don't need Root Switch at all.
[SuperSU] codgician:
Just flashed suhide on the latest nightly*of cm14.1*for oneplus one (bacon). Encountered a boot loop.*

Looping:

init: Starting service 'config_bt_addr"...

init: Service 'config_bt_addr' (pid XXXX) exited with status 0.

init: Service 'config_bt_addr' (pid XXXX) killing any children in process group.

Full log*here: https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZ9S6gZRetqgIokF6zy44Gl7mTp2fAqwey0
[SuperSU] harpin14789:
It's been said before that suhide is causing a bootloop on nougat roms with November security patch.

Just search stuttering the thread and you will find your answer. :)
[SuperSU] alelopinf:
I can't find su in TWRP and I can't delete it. In the file manager (TWRP) there isn't any su in bin and xbin.

Is restoring the Rom Stock the only way?

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[SuperSU] Hannibal226:
Do u see any files in this folders?

When the flashing process saying this, I'm sure the file is there.

So check again, what the error says and be sure u mount system before.

Otherwise, there isn't any su.

CHEERS
[SuperSU] alelopinf:
There isn't any

[IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161120/ecf891930322c8846d2b437cd1b64076.jpg

There isn't xbin but there is sbin. Inside sbin there isn't su but there are some files.

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[SuperSU] Hannibal226:
Like I mentioned before, did u mount system?

(TWRP > advanced > mount : check system)

Looks like u only see the folder because u didn't.

CHEERS
[SuperSU] alelopinf:
In advanced there isn't mount and check system

In mount I can't find check system. Where is it?

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