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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
I saw an Asus Eee today in black.

looks very very nice for the money, the missus said she might buy it 4 me for xmas if I want it

hmm decisions decisions :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
Got the black one myself on thursday through Ebuyer, though I believe they're out of stock at the mo. I've installed XP on it just to test it and it works perfectly, even the webcam works fine. It boots up in seconds which is unfamiliar territory for me!

I quite like the Linux interface though so I might go back to it eventually. Everything worked out of the box- youtube, stage 6, even Ipods. Only real prob I had with Linux was that I couldn't use Activesync but I liked the amount of tweaking you can do to it.

If you need any pics, comparisons or whatnot I can post them or forward them. I won't be looking back. It's a brillliant bit of kit, especially for the money.

p.s. you can even install mac osx on it, though the procedure is a tad complicated for me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
I didn't deem that a rant. Some very fair points very well put.

I must admit my experience of the Iphone is not as extensive as yours so I'll have to capitulate on that one. Though it seems to ace out windows mobile in terms of user input (on screen keyboard) and generally usability - takes a long while to get used to windows mobile if you've never experienced it.

I never experienced any slowdown on the n800 and i tested it a fair bit. With the os2008 upgrade things should only get better. It's a lot more user-friendly and the new os includes Firefox (which I prefer) instead of Opera.

I appreciate that the EEE is bigger than the Athena. when I said 'not that much' I meant that when carrying the EEE in the supplied case in a bag, compared to carrying the Athena in a bag - which I used to do in preference to cramming the device intpo my pocket - the difference is negligible.

I used to carry a bt keyboard and mouse with it also. Now compared to carrying a separate keyboard and mouse AND an Athena the difference is CERTAINLY negligible.

I can do everything on my old Hermes that I can do on the Athena - yes chatting and PDA stuff - and it has a better battery life. It also fits in my pocket nicely when I'm out and about.

For when I need full browsing, multimedia and office capability I've got the EEE - which is VERY portable, very rugged and even has a webcam if you want to do slightly more advanced chatting!

This is why I'm happy with my current setup.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
like i said wait till dual comes out. the team had a breakthrough yesturday and a new app will be in dual.. more details when rom comes out.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Abram:
I wonder what your thoughts are on Softmaker office Textmaker, which should be superb on the athena in 96dpi? You may not even get the slowdown that you describe in Word. I use PlanMaker (their spreadsheet) and it works quite well in (96dpi) on my athena.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
my current thinking is to get one and leave it at work, which is where i do most of my 'ATHENAring' ...is that a word :) !

And use my athena as an HSDPA modem for the Eee with XP installed on it.

I would then keep my Athena for when im out and about and NOT at work, hence keeping the full Athena mobility including the important ability to make calls and send texts.

Im not in a terrible hurry to do this and i understand that Asus are going to bring out upgraded versions of the Eee.

Bigger drives , 10 inch screen etc. Mind you its the small form factor that interests me esp as i may want to carry the Eee at some point.

I am however still well into my Athena and by the rom updates, looking forward to the DUAL rom which sounds exciting but im clueless as to what it can do more than PK3.0
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] victoradjei:
I hope the dual can make me keep my Ameo. I even put up a sale thread and not a single soul has asked:rolleyes: At the moment it is resting in a drawer somewhere in the house.

I also found out how slow it was with browsing even on wireless at home (Opera) when I got the E90. Even with all the reports of issues, my love for the Athena just drained out:eek: I also think the only reason I keep buying WM devices is because of tweaking to kill some time;) I believe most guys on Athena forum also own another htc device, like I do. I see a lot of familiar names on the Kaizer section. Looks like a sign of discontent with the Athena.

Pawel062 give us the daul and maybe I will pull out my Ameo with all the accssories I bought in trying to make up for the missing link:o
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] beginner:
My comment is that life is not perfect. In our side I like athena because is like to have a laptop with you, with tremendous internet and mail capabilities plus presentation, office and so on.

But the lack is with the phone. I have a jabra bt8010 but if I want to maintain several business calls, it fails -some noise in the back and problems if you are outside- Solution with wire speakers is not comfortable.

Only solution is to bring an aditional phone with you and in this case why the athena?

I have started to use a last model of blackberry: good for phone and text mail, but lack of 3g, navigator,..., a nightmare in comparative with athena -except the phone- For example you cannot have at the same time running the navigator, receiveng or maintaining calls and having a look in your mail.

In conclussion: I think the only solution if you are strong mobile worker as me is athena plus a normal mobile phone.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Midget_1990:
in a drawer? :eek:

its going to waste, considered donating it? :) ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pantaloonie:
Why don't you make him a reasonable offer, instead of asking him to give it to you?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
I've pretty much got the same arrangement as you have planned, though instead of the Athena I'm using the Hermes for texting etc and getting rid of Athena. I mainly used the Athena at work anyway as you do, so the extra size is not an issue. and it's less of a strain on the eyes.

The Hermes is a little more practical as a phone and has the same HSDPA/WIFI benefits in a smaller package. I don't use GPS.

As regards the proposed upgrades to the EEE - it's easy and affordable enough to obtain 2gb of RAM if you desire.

I try to write as little to the SSD as possible so an 8gb hard drive would be no more desirable to me.

Nor in fact would an extra ten inches of screen space as this would almost certainly affect the size and would CERTAINLY affect the battery life.

The only thing that would really improve on this is a double-life battery, which is certainly plausible and would mean up to 8 hours' life.

I'm typing on it now. All media codecs run smoothly on it - smoother than on either of my other PCS in fact. I have no paging file and all document writing is routed to the SDHC card.

Hate to drift too much off-topic but it's interesting to hear people's opinions of the advantages and disadvantages of devices (and windows mobile/XP).
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
Im kinda heading that way but i think i would keep the athena, i hardly ever make calls on it and when i do i use a BT headset and i would like the big screen for possible movie or TV streaming on the move.

Like i said if it turns up in my xmas stocking I wont be complaining :)

The missus finds it hard to buy me pressies what with me being a fussy git, so she has basically said order it and she will pay 4 it , so its a dead cert :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Midget_1990:
worth a try 1st :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
Your comments echo my thoughts on many levels

though I disagree about it being like having a laptop with you.

I've spent the past 6 months trying to make my Athena function like a laptop with the great work of the Athena developers. Unfortunately its failings have finally become too much for me. I can live with its various issues to a degree - the problem is that for a device its size (and let's face it, it's not small as cellphones go) it just doesn't perform reliably when needed.

Some people don't seem to have the same issues as me. They raise the point that Opera outperforms IE mobile. I know this already: however this seems more related to their expectations and mine over the performance of the device. I simply find the internet functions of the device unacceptable balanced against its reported power and size. This is certainly not a hardware issue - I have owned two Athenas since june, and the problems I experience directly parallel those of other pocket pcs I own and have owned

One major issue for me is the keyboard: I like the look and feel of it but it is simply NOT suited to efficient and comfortable typing. I much prefer the layout of the Hermes/Universal with their thumb-tap layout and 'safer' construction.

To use the Athena comfortably I personally feel required to sit down or at least be somewhere steady and safe.

Sure - just like the Athena - the Hermes and Universal are less than perfect for browsing, but they are more practical, their batteries last longer and they can be used nicely as phones (the Hermes more so). After long consideration these benefits override the 5" display and GPS of the Athena to me.

If I feel the need to sit down and consider my surroundings when using the Athena then why not buy a 'proper' fully-subnotebook (the eee pc) and use a Hermes for pocket pc requirements. In this situation I lose NOTHING. I have an organiser, a HSDPA receiver which can be either directly connected or used as a wireless router, a pocketable and fully wm6 capable handset and a fully operational and ultra-portable laptop.

I already own a Hermes, but even if I didn't it would still be cheaper to buy BOTH an eee AND a Hermes BRAND NEW than to buy just one Athena.

This is the basis on which I made my decision.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
i updated the touch thread with all the htc apps im including in touch. htc sprint plugin aka quicklauncher has a icon for phone to get easy access to that. about the quality idk but mine sounds awesome on speaker or with my s9s or h700.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] beginner:
my sound problem is when you are in the street. in that case a headshet is not fine. only solution is a wired one, at least for me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] cmonex:
yes, people are so different in expectations and in their usage of the devices :) that is of course no problem.

glad you liked my previous post. only one comment to that: iphone is a big problem for me in terms of input, as it has no hardware keyboard. i never ever use an onscreen keyboard, all of them drive me mad within 2 minutes, including iphone :(

i think for me opera seems fast because i only had devices/browsers that performed much slower before. also, while a page is loading i'm reading another page. (that's why it is so critical for me to have a "open link in new window" which the iphone seems to be missing.) and i turn off picture loading, usually i don't care about the pics and it is cheaper for me that way.

also, before i only had gprs, and turning off image loading can make browsing tolerable enough over gprs, otherwise it would have been a pain.

heh battery life, my athena definitely lasts longer than the universal. problem is, extended battery for universal is easily found and is cheap (aftermarket), and lasts AGES. not so for athena, haven't found an aftermarket one yet, i need to look harder because a flight to the UK (which i'm doing often in the future) and then traveling on the train etc, takes many hours, and my two standard batteries hardly just last through it (constantly online of course!).

the keyboard for me, is near useless on a table, i need to hold the athena in my hands to make it comfortable. that way, it is almost as good as a universal.

again shows how different people can be :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] cmonex:
curious now, how long does it take for the E90 to load http://index.hu and http://origo.hu?

(hungarian news portals)

i like fast browsers.. so i'd like to know if you could get the chance to try this :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] cmonex:
it looks good, not using it much so far though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
Bit of an update:

I'm keeping my Athena for the time being on the off-chance that some big developments in Athena Linux are on the horizon.

Sometimes I have waves of optimism,
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Olipro:
or bouts of bipolarity
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
well i'm still not using my Athena but keeping it for the moment in case anything big is on the horizon, so i suppose 'severely deluded' might describe my demeanor a bit more accurately. im not particularly depressed about the situation though. Not yet.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
overall imo you still can't beat the athena for a 1 device that does all esp with the cooked roms as found here. if it could run xp it would be nigh on perfect
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Olipro:
haha, I was only kidding mate... I'm sure Midget's still itching for an Athena
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
I'm up for swapsies
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] preternatural:
happy with athena

I have exhausted most new pdas and smartphones over the recent years. There has been some good ones for particular purposes. However, athena is the most versatile overall device. I used it as my primary phone, word.processing, presentation, and emailing tool. Of course you need to have accessories. Both those are available. I really appreaciate the newest rom.

Athena has a learning curve. But it delivers. There is no other windows mobile or symbian device out there that works better at the moment. Iphone is all about interface. It really does not count here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] TryOG:
Looks like jollypro found him(/it?)self a friend. :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
Web browsing with Athena

Do you guys notice that pocket IE is a lot snappier if you do NOT use cache? In the past, I had tweaked it to have as big a cache as possible. With that setting, I suspect that the device is spending too much time locating the webpage from the device before it tries to fetch it from the net. Now, with the cache size set to zero, I seem to get the "H" sign immediately. I also suspect that with this setting, the device does not have to waste time saving files into the device. Another thing I did is to disallow animation. I feel that the response time is snappier with these two measures. Sure, we still can't use Java based webpages and do youtube, but nothing is 100% perfect in this world.

Have not tried Opera, because I don't like the interface. PIE plus is far better.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
I'm sure he is. If I knew where Bognor Regis was I might lend it to him.

I Don't suppose you have any information about the new Fl3.0? I would love to have Flash sites work without third-party plugins.

Eaglesteve, Will give the disabling cache idea a go tomorrow.

Still not happy with Opera or P.I.E. to be honest: today Opera wouldn't let me select any tabs beyond the account login screen on HSBC internet banking, PIE displayed the site in a bizarre vertical garbled arrangement despite 'desktop mode' being selected. It also works poorly with TouchFlo for some reason.

Perhaps I expect too much, but almost every site I CAN'T effectively browse with Windows Mobile I was able to do quite merrily with a Nokia N95 (which I regretfully gave away to my fiance.

Perhaps this is why I complain so.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
While my primary web browser is PIEPlus, I still use Opera where there is a display problem. I have no issue using HSBC internet banking with Opera at all, although PIE does not work with this site.

My only real complaints with PPC based web browsers are the Java based webpage (for example, displaying the graphs in www.fxstreet.com), and classical youtube.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
how do u change the cache settings ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
If you have SKTools, go to Tune UP view, PIE tab, and :

1) change the Maximmum animated gif per page to 0.

2) PIE cache limit to 0

I'm not 100% sure if it has definitely improved without a benchmark stopwatch comparision. Tell me what you think.

Oh, I also cleaned up the cache content in PIE.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
well those sites both show up perfectly like on my laptop on my athena's pie. youtube just need the flash plugin to be downloaded so itll play the videos. I am though not using ap dual 3.0.

btw: i am using no addons for pie to display the sites. using a stock pocket internet explorer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] leoni1980:
Out of interest what are you using instead of Dual?

I use the Flash plugin, although it struggles to display smoothly. Often it will be playing fine then keep stopping to load. If Flash 9 were integrated then the video would be able to buffer.

The other annoyance is that with the flash plugin I am unable to view comments or otherwise access further information about clips as Immediately I select the flv kicks in. Also you cannot use it with Opera (though I don't know why).

I disabled the cache on IE and it does seem to speed up rendering slightly. Tried this with Opera but the cache keeps going back to 2000.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
its my own build. same programs though as dual. cant say more so dont ask. i actually sometimes now like using pie. i havent tried any flash plugins but the stock ie will show u the preview of the video and when u click to lay it it shows it needs flash player. no mods on cache here loads almost as fast though as opera.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
Really?

You can see the java applet and graphs of these two links?

http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/forex-charts/

http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/charts-panel/
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
shows the loading animation but neather my laptop nor my athena have shown the charts yet. must eather be big or who knows.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] Pawel062:
no go with java. just like any other rom
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
Your desktop need to download the Java runtime first before it could show the charts. You must do it once after every window installation. With Java runtime, you should see the graphs in a few seconds.

Unfortunately, there is'nt an equivalent Java runtime for mobile PC. I'm not sure about the browser of Asus PC eee. Perhaps leoni1980 could test out those two links. You can expect it to NOT display the chart at least the first time. Then, follow the link below the chart, go to sun microsystem's website to download a Java runtime for your browser and see if it finds any compatible one. I suspect that even Asus PC eee will not be able to display the graphs, but I hope I'm wrong.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] eaglesteve:
I have the same problem. After I've made the change, a soft reset (I switched it off for about a minutes to make sure the device writes the registry change out) reverts back the cache limit to the previous value.

Anyoneone knows how I can make the change permenant ?:confused:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] kenny08vt:
I'm sure you guys know about the group text. I recently moved to the galaxy s7 from an iphone 6. I noticed that group texting doesnt really work. I can send group text messages to my friends with iphone but i will only be able to see one person's reply, and i dont get anything from anyone else. MMS is enabled and group chat is enabled. Does anyone know a work around, tip, or trick to get group texting?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] fahad√√hacker:
If u are talking about whatsapp u can do group chat by broadcasting messages to different groups
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers] kenny08vt:
I fixed it got all of my iphone friends to delete my text messages on their phones and i deleted them on my phone, then re-established a group message and it all worked. Btw you have to go to the apple website and de-register imessage for the apple account that you previously had.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Donny3000:
This may not be the best forum to ask this question, but considering that I'm new to XDA and don't have enough points to post in the development forum, this seemed like the next best place. I'm looking to get into CM development for the Honor 5X and I'm trying to find documentation for building CM (XDA version?) for the wonderful Honor 5X. I was able to find this link: https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_kiwi documenting the build process. But, it seemed like a general kiwi build for the phone. I say general because I found this thread in the development section that mentions these three git development repos:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...ce_huawei_kiwi

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...el_huawei_kiwi

https://github.com/crpalmer/proprietary_vendor_huawei

but when I checked out the code and sync'd the repo, I wasn't sure if it sync'd those repos for me.

So, is there a guide documenting how to build or get started with XDA CM development for the Honor 5X?

Thanks in advance.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] clsA:
I applaud your efforts, But we really already have a good working CM13 team

maybe you should consider picking up one of the many other CM13 based Roms and taking over development of those

the list is quite extensive,but you can begin your quest here

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/pac-rom-unofficial-build-t3407563

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/aokp-unofficial-build-mm-t3398902

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/candyroms-unofficial-build-t3412373

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/vanir-unofficial-build-6-0-070416-t3411118

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/aicp-unofficial-build-11-0-t3394492

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/xperience-unofficial-build-10-0-t3402800

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/temasek-s-unofficial-build-v8-9-t3390168

http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/development/collection-roms-flashaholic-t3412367
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] BASET02:
hello i want install cm13 on honor 5x KIW-L21 with twrp but when install cm twrp eror 7 plase help me
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
not the correct thread but to your question- update your phone to stock marshmallow 1st and then try CM13. or else you can flash the CM13 version but older builds than 20th July but that will be without FP. if you want Fp, update your phone to stock marshmallow 1st and then flash any of the CM13 or other marshmallow based ROMs.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Puddi_Puddin:
Are you kidding me x)
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] BASET02:
how update KIW-L21 c185b140 to stock marshmallow?:(
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Check the honor 5X repository thread in guide section. And download stock recovery and appropriate marshmallow package for your phone. And then follow my guide for update. You can find my thread easily.

Or you can flash 18/19th july cm13 build but fp wont work. Try old build and see if u r able to update cm13.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] BASET02:
no stock marshmallow update for kiw-l21c185b140:crying:
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
check this for your model- http://xdaforums.com/honor-5x/how-to/repository-honor-5x-file-depot-t3328288
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] Donny3000:
Sorry for the delay...I got caught up with family stuff at home. But, thank you clsA for this information. I will take a look and see how I can contribute.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Thanks mate. Let me start building the environment and will start this.
[Honor 5X Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Thank you