yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
it's not easy to build a Rom like nougat for the TabS , Nougat has to be ported from the Pixel C tab ( or other device with the real nougat) to the TabS, which mean that all the Drivers ( blobs) codecs and what not, have to be working on the T-800. Then all other variants will have to be supported as well because the dreaded question will come quickly enough: would you support the T-700 T705 T-805 etc. It is very complicated to build a Rom for a device that you don't own. We might be well intentioned but we don't know enough ( me anyway) about linux to be coding all day....sudo this and sudo that. Just take a look at a repo and you will be amazed at the amount of line of codecs needed to build a fully working rom.

Now , here in this forum are some very talentuous coders who will port nougat to the tabs very soon. It might start with a cyanogenmod variant , then a pure nougat will follow. Real coders are maniacs who love what they do and don't do it for the money, they don't steal the work of other people neither, they ask first, if they need it.

Peoples like deadman96385 who should receive most of the donations because most of the CM based roms come from his hard work , ashyx with his TWRP and answering questions all the time to help those in need. Nvertigo who left the forum after bricking a TABS while working at making some blobs for Lollipop which were taken and often used without permissions , the Dirty unicorn team and others whom i forget their name right now and work behind the scene ( Hannibal) to bring their hard work to us free of charge. It's not the end of the world if schischu doesn't come back, we'll get nougat anyway.

Some people were giving me s*** yesterday because of what I've said about schischu's way of doing things. What they don't know is that when he was building MM6, he was NOT answering or helping anyone in the thread about a very complicated Rom to install, but I was. I think he has 20 posts in 450 pages and I have like 150 . I've spent days answering questions and trying to help people to boot his complicated Rom. After a while, when you help so many people and you don't get any help from the OP himself, you start wondering what's going on and this is why I don't help anyone with this alpha nougat . Some people like it for what they need it for, other don't like it because it won't perform what they need it to do.

You want to see a real complicated CM14 ( nougat) repo, check this out, from deadman and friend. He build the kernel and Roms.

https://github.com/CM-Tab-S/android_kernel_samsung_klimtwifi

Enough said.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Kholargol:
Very interesting and informative post, thank [MENTION=7000441]zigonneux[/MENTION]!

Thank [MENTION=4699854]j1gga84[/MENTION] too but I've got a T700 and AICP roms are only for T700 :(
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
then , MM6 would do it easily. I'm testing another variant of MM6 but i know that when i connect my DAC on it and stop usb audio player, i can play youtube or anything else like RadioParadise. I bet my shirt that Nougat 7 will also do it.

Cheers !
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
I appreciate all the help you have been. And you're right, there are no worries here. I was impressed with [MENTION=2371134]Schischu[/MENTION]'s work on marshmallow, and was hopeful that this ROM would rise to that level. But, if he's gone there are no worries: a fully functioning nougat will arrive from someone, someday.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] jdmillard:
Thanks for the excellent insight and for your help in this thread. It's impressive what these people do. I'd still like to get involved somehow. I'm not a rockstar like those guys, but I think it would be personally fulfilling to learn some of the street smarts of AOSP.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
if you're young enough to learn all that stuff, you're more than welcome. As to me at 62 years old, i''m still learning but at a much slower pace :) there are plenty of documentation about this on google. Good luck :good:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ksojoel:
I use fiio e10k dac and neither when i had android 5 and now android 6 could manage to work on my tab s 10.5 ,other than in those dedicated audio players like usb audio pro. I did search on the web and this issue wasn't there on android kitkat. I guess i will have to make downgrade.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
i have the FIIO Kunlun E-18 Dac - amp. The trick is to make sure that Usb audio pro won't block the access to the DAC. In the Usb audio pro setting, make sure to uncheck : use the usb dac , then at first when you will connect your DAC, do NOT give the permission to usb audio pro to handle this device, no check mark , nothing, just cancel. Then start youtube and VOILA ! I'm doing it as I type to make sure that was the right thing to do. I've just started Foobar2000 and it does play very well also, i even hear the boing boing of the android. So what is preventing you to get your DAC from working with everything is the config of Usb audio player. i use the IronRom aroma MM6 for now, which is very close to stock.

The BIG problem is when we want to use USB player pro again and we give the permission to handle the USB dac, youtube won't play after unless we go to the programs properties and remove the authorization given to USB audio player.

Note that my setup is in french so , i try my best to translate the "settings terms"in english.

By your name it look like you're french also, so anyway if you want to discuss the matter further send me a PMessage.

Cheers !
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ksojoel:
It did worked following your steps. Thanks man, much apreciated:fingers-crossed::good:!, I would have never imagine usb audio pro was making the problem. My mother tongue is spanish btw.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
my son is from Cuba, my spanish isn't too bad.. :) I'm glad it could help you with your DAC. :good:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ScottFlysPlanes:
Does anybody have a display issue that makes the display look exactly like night mode? The thing it isn't because it is turned off and it also does it when it is booting up etc. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ZimriTech:
1. What are the benefits of this?

2. What are the downsides of this?

3. Do you still get to keep TouchWiz?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Wesley1406:
1. fRESH CLEAN ANDROID OS :) It's buttery smooth, making the dope specs on tab s run perfectly.

2. Some Glitch and Bug, like rotation graphic glitch, but this one is reallly subjective.

What annoys me more the current rom can't read SD Card properly due to MTP Crashes.

If it fix, it's amazing cuz we can store music and gallery on SD CARD.

3. Touchwiz? pff, no... the first time i use this tab. I immedeadly switch iron rom, but after Mr. Sc release Marsmallow, it just make me love this Tab even more. For some reason, it just turn into a Pixel Tab S.

Touchwiz is absolutely lag and unforgiveable lazy developer. Even Tab S get an Official MM Touchwiz, i can't even see any effort in that rom. Same ****, just change a version digit.

If this Tab ain't get popularity on XDA, i will never bought it on 1st place.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaodd:
R u using apps like greenify or doze?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaodd:
this thread is kinda abandoned, everybody ask, the answers and help are from other member why not from schischu ?

who is responsable, who is in charge? somebody is counting the money? seems like a waste of time to follow this rom (thread) .

the supervisor should make a decision !
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] pmgnet:
I finally switched to this ROM from OP's last ROM. So glad I did! Great work!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
who answer the questions ? it used to be me and other volunteers, but very rarely schischu. He did the same for MM6. Just consider this thread as a museum piece . I don't get involved anymore with whatever schischu can make .
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaodd:
i know buddy, without you and the other guys . . . .

in reality > this rom is on the way to die ! where is the undertaker?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
the problem being is that nobody can use his work to make it better without his consent. So we're at a dead end. That's life. But Nougat is coming very quickly from other developers so, no problems really !
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] dharmabm:
Sure you can, as long as all the source is public in github anyone can fork it
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
good thing then...
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaodd:
i'm really not longer willing to wait, for me it's the end of this rom, good night :cyclops:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ZimriTech:
"Announcement from Schischu: Android 7.0 Nougat is coming to Tab S 8.4/10.5 WiFi & LTE !"

Are you saying when Nougat is released we will get an OTA update?!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] HopelesRomantc91:
Has anyone else noticed an issue with the Pin Screen feature? It seems that whenever I pin a screen, its impossible to unpin without restarting.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Kholargol:
No, it only mean that OP released a Nougat based ROM. But this ROM is not maintened anymore, sorry. I don't htin kSamsung will ever release Nougat on Tab S first series..
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] malosasha:
[MENTION=7000441]zigonneux[/MENTION] any idea if this rom is still using the LP blobs or the Op migrated them to MM ?

Also it has been answered to me but can u confirm that this rom is usable on daily usage ? Especially concerning Wifi (SM-T805 here) as i need it for everyday use.

If so i could sync/ compile and at least start to migrate from 7.0.0_r3 to 7.0.0_r7 (Octobre patch) But i need a stable rom to use out of dev. Don't have a spare tablet

It would be sad that this rom goes necro ;(
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] shepliu:
No.... love this ROM the most!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
just relax and wait, they are working on it.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zsolti256:
For me, T700 it is quite stable, only had youtube lag sometimes,and occasionaly battery drain, although I only browse and youtube on the tab.

:good:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] ZimriTech:
1. Is it ok if I have a random version of TeamWin TWRP?

2. Does this ROM have any bugs?

3. Does this ROM better manage RAM then Touchwiz?

4. Is battery life better or worse?

5. Does GPS, Fingerprint Scanner, Camera and WiFi work fine?﻿

6. Do you keep the Power off, Airplane mode and Restart on the shutdown menu?

7. Does the developer ever update this anymore?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Kholargol:
7. No

So it's useless to answer to previous question.

Seriously, I think that thread should be closed now..
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] robhug:
Schischu isn't fair with us. He can do what he want but just say nothing, no news and anything..
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaodd:
Ask the Dev !

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No, should stay as a bad example

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He never was
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] twhansen:
Guys, this is a spare time project for him. Not really fair to badmouth him. The MM rom is great. If you need a fully functional rom just stick to that and stop whining about updates.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] stopa10:
I agree.

Most of the latest posts are unnecessarily mean to Schischu. Although things are not working as many of us had expected, we still need to acknowledge that he did a great job in resurrecting a device that seemed pretty much dead in terms of development.

In addition, this community lives of liberal contributions made by the devs, advancing requests is out of line.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
deleted. What schischu has done it's his business, not mine to discuss.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
You're right he did. I might say, however, that there is a point to be made that we don't know for certain how much money was given, and that the whole situation had to be taken in context. He was obviously upset (and rightly so, imo) about how the thread was closed before. So now are we to condemn him for stopping development and attack his character because of a few donations that totaled, how much? A few hundred dollars? If that?

And what if he's trying to make it right with all of the kernel/drivers n blobs, etc., and he comes back in a few more weeks with something really good? No, sorry man, but we've left you because you worked on this awesome thing but we didn't know. At least if we leave the thread open we have a place to discuss issues, and maybe have a point of reference if anyone rise wants to take it over.

If you can't stand the bugs, and want to go to a different ROM, then do so. There's no sense in continually attacking this dev in absentia.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] vonschau:
What do you want to achieve with your nasty comments. If you don't like Schischus work, nobody forces you to use it or to stay in contact here. Have a good weekend
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Brundle Mouche:
Chill down, and if the state of this ROM is not OK for you do as I do: switch to another one. And thanks to TWRP, I can try new ROM anytime and revert back to previous backup.

I was on this one, then on 6.0 from Schischu, and now on SimplerStock ROM. If Schischu deliver 7.0 again I will come back.

No need to be angry, my man ;)
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
deleted.... none of my business what the OP does.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] malosasha:
If there are any devs interested to continue the job, please PM me , i can spare some times on it here and there and have been working on a rom at work last year. Also [MENTION=2371134]Schischu[/MENTION] has always be pretty cool in pm in the past, and i m pretty sure that nicely asked he will always give info until he find time to continue on this.

Regarding the blob issue from the other guy that don't want to be mentionned/quoted is it such an important issue ? Are there any new features in those MM blobs ?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] foueddyf:
I personally still use his MM6 rom and have no issue with it. Love his work.

But, unless he's had an accident, god forbid, it only takes a minute to log on and drop a reply "sorry, can't do this anymore" or whatever.

We don't even need to know why, we just need a status update: development alive or dead, so we can unsubscribe or stop looking at this thread and stop wasting time. It just takes a minute and it's not too much to ask imo
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Brundle Mouche:
After exchanging some words in PM, no hard feelings and better understanding. So cleanup the messy message and start over :D
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] 3DSammy:
As I saw the general assumption that this ROM was not likely to be updated I spent a little while looking for an alternative. I then realized that this ROM was stable for my user profile even more so than his MM ROM (better Substratum integration). I really only miss two things, regular security updates and YouTube working fluidly at 1080p.

Yes, I did donate to him but I've been using one of his T800 ROMs since my warranty expired. Everybody needs to get their head on straight that any custom ROM will eventually not be supported at some time. Just because you donated does not alter that fact. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Sure I'd like a definitive comment from the developer but it is what it is, chill.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
To answer your very important question about the blobs. Nougat has a very unique new feature called Vulkan API. Let me paste something about this : There’s another side to Android 7.0 Nougat that could prove as important as advanced app interaction. It’s Vulkan.

This is a graphics API that developers use to exploit a device’s hardware when coding an app or game. Until Nougat, Android had used OpenGL ES – a rival API.

The big difference between it and Vulkan is that the latter is a lower-overhead API, providing more direct control over the hardware. This should result in better performance and less reliance on the need for optimisation for specific GPU types. Android device hardware has to support Vulkan too, but this has already started because Vulkan and Google’s support for it were announced in 2015. The Snapdragon 820 supports Vulkan, for example.

Now, the trick is to find out if the TabS can support Vulkan, if the answer is no, then the blobs are not so important, if the answer is Yes then we need all the drivers( blobs) necessary to support it.

It's rather easy to put the nougat interface on the MM6 drivers, the tough part for a DEV is to invent , make , find a suitable blob to support the new OS as it should be . Not just a new paint job on an old car.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] deadman96385:
We can not support Vulkan for the time being there may be hope in the future due to the 5420 being in a Samsung Chromebook. One of the advantages of updating blobs to M is we get the new gpu driver from samsung that performs so much better then the older L one.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
Thanks for the heads up, now we know that our device has limitations and we can't follow every releases of android... That's life ! so we'll get the nougat that we can afford ! ....:cool:

deadman96385 you're a top gun ! many thanks for your hard work.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
Yay, no more flames! Yay, helpful discussion! Yay, people I have come to respect getting along!

I almost have a tear...
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
clean up done here also. 2 frenchmen arguing in english , not good ! back to the technical posts. :cool:

Ho by the way, what the OP has done is none of my business. i'm not a judge, I have not donated so I'm out of this discussion. if he come back , cool, if not , that's life.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Sprelle:
Finally ---- detente :D

Maybe the next wonder will be a Nougat which will have an active development.

I have a Note Pro 12.2 (P905) also, and Valera1978 has reached a very stable CM 14.1 on that one :D
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
so malosasha, you think that you'll give a shot at nougat ? . The OP said once that he was working with the nougat version of the google pixel Tablet. I don't know if deadman can help you since he work on the cyanogenmod team more than the real AOSP aspect of nougat. Remember that the OP did not had the time to port the blobs from LP to MM6 neither.. so it might be more complicated than you expected. If Schischu answer to you in a PM, then there is hope. Many blobs will have to be ported from LLP to MM6 to be used in nougat though. The hardware has his limitation.

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Someone have tried a CM14 on the Tab S and it's very unstable for now. But they are going faster than I thought.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] robhug:
I think CyanogenMod is in general better than aosp: better battery life and better optimized in general (that's my opinion only) so I would rather prefer cm14 as aosp but I need to test cm14 before i do any judgment :) looking forward and thanks you so much for all devs and people working and help about our tabs :)
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] malosasha:
[MENTION=4222965]deadman96385[/MENTION] any idea where the RIL issue come from ? Is it like really hard in the actual state to fix , or a well known fix that has ust not been ported by the op ?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] templario1492:
hellpme

Fingerprint not found in t700
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] malosasha:
I m actually using a compiled version of MM aosp ; it seems by asking here that the nougat one is stable; i just wonder about Wifi ?

If the OP don't work on it for the moment, maybe the first things to do would be to apply the monthly aosp patches, i just took a look it is like a one day work to merge those forked by schiscu and then update the repo one.

Migrating the GPU blobs and finding the RIL issue could be way harder , but i guess that solution from other roms can be applied as soon as they appear; i have faith :)
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
Even minimal patches and security updates would be very appreciated.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] zigonneux:
he will get help from the top coders, I'm quite sure of that... except from the Dirty Unicorn team which are quite advanced in regard to Nougat but they are rather secretive :)
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
[MENTION=6064372]malosasha[/MENTION] [MENTION=7000441]zigonneux[/MENTION] I'll look forward to seeing a new thread when the downloadables are ready. This one should stay open in case [MENTION=2371134]Schischu[/MENTION] returns and wants to continue development.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kalinskym:
Does Google Assistant work on this ROM?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
I take it you're talking about the new app from the new pixel phones? Hard telling if it will or not until someone tries a port. Has that code even been released yet? I know that it's a Pixel phone exclusive as far as OEMs are concerned.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] pmgnet:
Does anyone know exactly what happened with this ROM and the developer? There was some kind of disagreement or fallout with the CM Team? I could never quite follow it. Something about kernel code or binaries?

Is there any chance the ROM will be taken up again by anyone, or another AOSP derivative team? I am enjoying the heck out of this ROM. Only glitch are the graphics when rotating, and that's no big deal at all.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kalinskym:
apparently you can modify BuildProp and install new Velvet app on any Nougat running device and enable Pixel exclusive Google Assistant.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
A lot of that detailed discussion happened in the AOSP 6.0 thread (while this thread was temporarily closed) and was subsequently expunged by the mods. Some parts are still there, so you can go back and find it if you're interested.

The short version: this ROM uses drivers from lollipop, and modifies SELinux as a shortcut to getting Nougat to boot. This is not clearly disclosed in the o.p. Honestly, if you don't understand the ramifications of that, then I would not recommend that you use this ROM.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Turulcky:
One month and a half.... still no updete....
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] malosasha:
atm it is not even possible to sync the OP repos ; for those who want to compil it this commit is required :

https://github.com/alexmaloteaux/an...mmit/d87cf70c61cb7fbba22ed98f6ea45c51141e35d8
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] j1gga84:
Collecting PayPal money for development and then development obviously stopped and no status message from the Dev. since a long time has quite a bitter taste..

Just my 2 cents

Regards

Gesendet von meinem SM-G900F mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] amateurhack:
So that means no updates for now? Thanks for letting us know.

We'll, at least we made it four days before exhuming that dead horse. :)

Sorry, man, we all feel your pain. Time to move on. Don't look back. Keep moving forward. There's something better on the horizon...I hope.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] swazau:
Google assistant

Yes google assistant works but not out of the box. You have to download an app from the play store, and you need root access. The rest is self explanatory. Good luck

The apps name is get assistant, I tryed to link it but because in a new user I wasn't allowed, due to spam or something.

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An app called get assistant from the play store modifys build.prop for you and it works on this ROM, a bit glitchy but fun to try out.