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[Note 7 Accessories] sonnymarrow:
Wow, if I could find a place to buy that one, I would. All of the pictures look very promising - you don't see the adhesive ring on the edge which may indicate full coverage?
[Note 7 Accessories] louforgiveno:
I can't remember the name now....but what about applying that liquid adhesive that only cures with uv light (they use it to bond the digitizer to the lcd). Has anyone tried that or have insight as why that might be a bad idea?
[Note 7 Accessories] sonnymarrow:
Has anyone figured out more about that Taiwanese protector? It almost seems like they install it in store and adjust the amount of adhesive. I read something about making an appointment and allowing for 2 hours.
[Note 7 Accessories] situman:
Why is it Samsungs fault that accessory makers are too lazy to design a proper screen protector? To give up on a great design and phone, however gimmicky, would be silly because of some screen protector.
[Note 7 Accessories] pyraxiate:
I think you're referring to LOCA glue. I've seen this idea kicked around. Curious to know how it turns out when someone does try it. Removing it will be a pain though I'm sure.
[Note 7 Accessories] flintston314:
Yeh, I read that too - it seems that this is applie in the store. That would explain why it looks so good. Damn....I will never find a store that does this in the backlands I live....
[Note 7 Accessories] Froztvolt:
I work at Verizon, and we sell a full adhesive glass protector but unfortunately it doesn't cover the edges.

Pure gear HD tempered glass
[Note 7 Accessories] sparhawk699:
Hi, I gave a call to the Taiwanese company today, unfortunately it cannot be done by yourself, it has to be done at their office as it take 2 hours and it is difficult to install as explained by the lady there..
[Note 7 Accessories] sonnymarrow:
It's what I thought. Damn, I would pay good money for a store here in the US to apply one.
[Note 7 Accessories] Animatorman:
I'm definitely considering LOCA for a screen protector install. I've used is before replacing the glass on some older phone however it could definitely become a messy handful. I think the key would be to use a protector that is color matched top and bottom ( black for example) where it's color matched it would be important to use something like double sided tape ( the thin stuff like scotch tape) and apply it to the back of the black area of the screen protector or the phone ( I'm not sure which would be easier) . This part will be very important because you will basically be creating a damn around the home button, speaker and cameras. If you were to skip that step you would probably end up with a LOCA mess and you'd be left trying to figure out how to get it out of everything.

This thread has really sparked my interest. I was considering waiting until I got my recall replacement unit but it just dawned on me that this unit I have to give back may be a perfect test mule.

Now I just have to decide if I want to dump money into a phone I'm giving back in a week.

Also in regards to removal, I do think it would be terribly difficult since there would be a exposed glass edge, all you would need to do is work a thread or dental floss into the edge and basically cut the LOCA between the protector and the SCREEN. I think the hardest or most tedious part would be cleaning all the leftover LOCA.
[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
so any way we can buy this taiwanese tempered glass outside taiwan?
[Note 7 Accessories] flintston314:
It seems, only if you buy the whole store and move it to your location :)

Btw, what would and should work aswell is silicone - clear silicone. It is easy removable and should spread even and perfect. Use a screen protector of your choise, spread the silicone on it and apply it. Worst thing would be to remove the silicone after it has dried.
[Note 7 Accessories] Animatorman:
I'm pretty sure clear silicone would be 99% optically clear.
[Note 7 Accessories] i killed tupac:
probably because the screens are not flat, even on the top. Put a straight edge across the edges of the glass, and you will see that the face of the phone is actually concaved. So its is a crazy surface and my guess is that most of the plastic screen protector manufacturers don't have the tooling to make a shape like that.
[Note 7 Accessories] dwertz:
3M optically clear adhesive

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/Optically-Clear-Adhesives?N=8704952&rt=r3

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/530755O/3mtm-optically-clear-adhesives-8211-8212-8213-8214-8215.pdf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-300LSE-Double-Sided-Transparent-Adhesive-Sheet-Tape-For-Cell-Phone-LCD-Repair/231328848024?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38846%26meid%3D82aedf916f9f45f5806282aaf652ceb1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181144650454

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-OCA-Optically-Clear-Adhesive-Double-Sided-Adhesive-iphone-Repair-Adhesive-/181144650454?var=480239065960&hash=item2a2d1002d6:m:mB1iV6HbbbiUEaxISFZE1Yw
[Note 7 Accessories] teegunn:
I surprised this is the first time I have seen this mentioned in this thread. Indeed the real issue with tempered protectors and why they aren't putting adhesive on the middle is because not only are the screens slightly concave on the flat part from the edges, but I believe that each display is slightly different in how much it is concave. And because of this slight concave shape, the manufacturers of the tempered protectors realized that over time the middle of these tempered protectors would lift off of the display, and with the adhesive look terrible. So they tried using adhesive on their test units and it didn't work well, so they went wit the adhesive only on the edges. Knowing this wasn't very good, but better than adhesive in the middle that eventually (sooner rather than later most likely) would pull up off of the screen and look and feel like crap. IMO this is the main reason there are no full adhesive, good tempered protectors available. It is really the fact that the curved edges at the peak are slightly higher than the middle of the screen. The curves themselves are not the main issue.
[Note 7 Accessories] Tweh:
Im thinking the precision that can be achieved with the current industrial equipment would make this issue a minimal one. Especially when you take into account the fact, if the surface isn't level, each device will have the exact screen curve which could be addressed in the design phase.

I'm just thinking that at this stage in the game of technology and design, it shouldn't be a stretch to think a solution is attainable. Lasers and 3d printers can be programmed to cut and print to exact precision.
[Note 7 Accessories] flintston314:
Unlikely that this is an issues. Pretty much every screen around, even the flat ones, are not flat. I checked almost every phone I had and so far the only that was perfectly flat was the early iphones. Every other display has a slightly bent geometry. Some phones even have quite strong recessions in the middle of the screen, yet, all those phones had not issues. It is mostly a question of having enough adhesive to fill any gaps.

However, the curves are an issue because the curves from the tempered glass manufacturers have huge error margins. Some protectors will be stronger bent than others and therefore they won´t fit on the edges. You can test this out easily, buy a flat TPG protector - that will have no issues on the notes concave screen....
[Note 7 Accessories] teegunn:
I wish that were the case, but I don't think it is. I have in fact had both a curved edge/full display tempered protector and a flat part only of the display tempered protector on my N7 already. Neither worked correctly at all. The tops of the edges were causing and issue - I do not believe the displays all have the same exact shape - there is some variance in how the curves form, especially at the top. There is more concaveness in the N7 than say my N4 which has slight curves on the side itself. Yet my N4 never once had an issue with a tempered protector not adhering properly. I used 3 different tempered protectors in the time I used my N4 (almost 2 years). The 2 tempered protectors I used on m N7 (one curved and one flat) - neither of those adhered properly to even be useable unfortunately. Completely worthless.

I do think the curved edges of the N7 can/do create more of a challenge, but I think it is the higher points of the tops of the curved edges that then slope down from there to the concave middle of the screen that cause the issue. Bottom line, this display is more challenging for manufacturers to create a tempered protector that will work as well as they did on other displays in the past. I have decided I would rather have a flat display as I don't use the edge features at all, I shut them all off in fact. However we don't have the option for a flat display N7 so we need to find a workable option for a tempered display protector at some point.
[Note 7 Accessories] situman:
I doubt that's the case. They are already making curved screen protectors with the curved sizes covered pretty well. The issue comes down to the glue itself. It is just crap.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
i can guarantee silicone will not work. The touch screen would not register any touch input through silicone.
[Note 7 Accessories] Radimus:
I have a curved one with only the edges covered and I have somehow gotten dog hair beneath it... and from the occasional lifting when the case lifts it has managed to get some crap and dust on the sticky edges, which is now less sticky and no way of really cleaning it.

I guess I'll leave it in place until I finally get tired of it and toss it in the trash.
[Note 7 Accessories] pr0cl1v1ty:
Try using packaging tape to remove the dust off the inside of the screen, this worked amazing for me.
[Note 7 Accessories] flintston314:
It will, I have tested it with a clear silicone skin that I turned around over the screen - the screen was working fine. Maybe Ill try it myself., now with the recall you can basically do anything with the phone.
[Note 7 Accessories] gbakeriv:
Has anyone tried this yet? It seems somewhat promising, but some of the reviews are for older models that fit the note 4. Seller claims its full adhesive.
[Note 7 Accessories] jal3223:
Some of the reviews say the adhesive is only on the top and bottom.
[Note 7 Accessories] gbakeriv:
yep some of the more recent reviews seemed to state that it's pretty garbage as well.

Time to jump ship to the v20. No point in keeping the note for the nicer screen when it's constantly in need of being covered by a crappy looking film protector.
[Note 7 Accessories] jal3223:
If the V20 has root I'm gone. [emoji6]
[Note 7 Accessories] situman:
Is the V20 gg4 or gg5? yea I dont care enough to look it up.
[Note 7 Accessories] Tweh:
Idk... the V20 seems kind of underwhelming :eek:
[Note 7 Accessories] gbakeriv:
its gg4. Looking forward to a flat screen I can easily protect.

And personally as an audio geek the DAC is impressive and the removable battery will fix my cell standby drain woes.
[Note 7 Accessories] bonerp:
what a dreary looking phone though....no features pull me to LG. Clearly the separate battery is massive win and this problem on the note 7 should push samsung to reintroduce removable cells - problem gone!
[Note 7 Accessories] situman:
Now you will have two drained batteries that you need to recharge. Sounds like a good plan :highfive:

Had removable battery phones before and never got a second battery.
[Note 7 Accessories] Polar67:
Actually i considered the V20

Heard it isn't coming to Europe though.

Regards

Elo
[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
F the V20, can we stay on topic here please?!
[Note 7 Accessories] hotspace:
I wanted to throw a little more information into this thread.

I've been talking with 4 different tempered glass manufacturer's in China. None of the 4 will even consider placing glue/adhesive on the entire cover. They've all said the same thing. It's IMPOSSIBLE to cover the entire back surface with glue/adhesive and get a bubbleless install.

With that being said....I have 2 different screen protectors being shipped to me from the manufacturer. I did quite a bit of researching these and think I've chosen the best manufacturer as they have the best feedback. Once I get those samples, I'll be sure to update the Note 7 accessories forum. My fingers are crossed. :) I suspect I won't have them until 26 August. The 2 that I've requested have glue on top, bottom and sides.
[Note 7 Accessories] pappschlumpf:
Most important in my opinion is that there's adhesive around all cut outs, cams, homebutton etc. If not it'll never be dust proof and won't be usable under water. If the manufacturers could not bring up a protector build this way tempered glass is a no go for me on note 7. I'll not install a new one every week or month because of having dust between screen and protector.

Well we'll see what you get. Looking forward to your review and if you're happy with it. Not only for several days ;)

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[Note 7 Accessories] hotspace:
I woke this morning to have a couple more replies from another manufacturer. She is sending two more samples too. I'm WAY outside of my comfort zone on this. Dealing directly with the manufacturer via Wechat with very broken english is fun. These 2 last samples will likely be the only ones I get from these guys as their minimum order is 100 and they are pricing them at $7.00 a piece. We'll see. I'll likely have a new Note 7 by the time these start arriving.

If anyone has experience in these style of negotiations, please let me know. Alibaba is truly the world marketplace. You can find anything....if you can dream it and search it, it's likely to be available.
[Note 7 Accessories] mallman:
hit me up if you really need some advice. I deal with lots of vendors in real life but bottom line really is just to not sign anything and just get the product. if you review it with us in this thread or another i'm sure the xda users would be more than happy to to tell you if they'd be willing to consider one and you could relay that message to the vendor. At no point are YOU obligated to purchase 100 so don't fall for that if that's what they are saying.
[Note 7 Accessories] hotspace:
Yup. I know that. There are 100's of these manufacturers. If anyone has an inside scoop on which manufacturer i should go to, thats the kind of info i'd really like to know. For example, alphaglass=otterbox. But otterbox isnt making them...they've got to have a manufacturer. [emoji1] at least thats how the world works in my mind.
[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
About to pull the trigger on this one :

https://youtu.be/QMbYQObXQFc
[Note 7 Accessories] kufel:
My dayghter got one for s7 edge at costco. Don't remember the brand but the dude said they are going to have those for N7 as well
[Note 7 Accessories] Tweh:
Would be nice..
[Note 7 Accessories] MKchrias:
Had a similar one with only top and bottom glue, using it with spigen neo hybrid crystal. When it rained water got under side and spread across screen. Had to remove it.
[Note 7 Accessories] fcortes626:
Yea this was originally my idea. I already have the LOCA glue but the screen protector I had broke before I could even try it. I was waiting to warranty replace my phone thats why I hadnt tried it earlier.
[Note 7 Accessories] pyraxiate:
I'm stuck using an s7 edge until my note7 arrives at the store. Frustrated ugh. I think I'm going to order a flat one that doesn't go edge to edge. I still prefer glass to a tpu / pet screen protector for drop protection.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
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[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
You posted this on the other thread too, where does it say full adhesive? Looks just like all the other ones.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
read the questions and comments bro dont just look at the pictures. Of course i posted it in the other threads, we have been looking for this and i thought people should know
[Note 7 Accessories] MKchrias:
Looks good, they won't ship to UK though.
[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
Saw it mate, I'm actually on my note 7 so it's kinda easy to miss the question and answers :) but yea I would definitely be keen to hear from you if you try it. Shipping costs alot to New Zealand when buying from Amazon so I want to see some reviews before buying.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
no prob. I already ordered it. I will report back when i get it
[Note 7 Accessories] mahdibassam:
Cheers can't wait ?
[Note 7 Accessories] force70:
Well at least one reviewer said yes full adhesive which i have never heard yet.

Too bad black only and they dont ship to Canada which is hilarious.

---------- Post added at 09:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 AM ----------

Look forward to seeing how you like it
[Note 7 Accessories] lovehoshi:
OH MY GOD! I hope this works :) Too bad they don't have a blue...
[Note 7 Accessories] chillsen:
IQ Shield said themselves its sides only though:

Does this have adhesive on the actual display area or just on the top, bottom and thin sides?

Answer: Adhesives are on the edges only

By IQ Shield on September 29, 2016 SELLER
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
they also said it was over the entire screen in a repose a few down from that one. I am getting mine monday and will update. If it is only edges, its getting returned.
[Note 7 Accessories] chillsen:
Look at the date of the ones you're talking about. The most recent answer from IQ Shield is that it's glue on the edges. Also since I've done reviews on PET/TPU/Tempered Glass screen protectors for the Note 7, I am unfortunately positive that it's just a rebrand of all the other tempered glass protectors out there.

Please let us know and we are all hoping its full adhesive. But after going through about 15 protectors for review, the best one out there is not a tempered glass at all but a TPU film from ArmorSuit. At first I thought IQ Shield's wet install TPU was the best but I had a big problem with the texture of the film once installed, it was slightly bumpy, too soft for S-Pen, and had a temporary imprint memory. Until I got the ArmorSuit yesterday, I am beginning to think the TPU film is sourced from a different place vs IQ Shield though because it has less texture, less softness, and an overall better using experience.

https://amzn.com/B01H85PWZ2

check out the photo's of the top review, notice there's barely any texture unlike the IQ Shield. Here's my IQ Shield TPU that I had on up until last night. IQ Shield's ugly film texture. Notice the difference?

I think ArmorSuit takes the #1 spot for its amazing PET film-like usability experience coupled with the adhesiveness of a TPU film wet install. I'm a fan for life.
[Note 7 Accessories] fgr:
I have to agree. I am very picky about my screen protectors. Tried several, including glass, and the Armorsuit has been the best. It fits perfect, so good you have to be very careful to get it perfectly centered.

I use a Samsung clearview case and none of the edges are lifting up either.

It will get scratched up eventually (again, very picky. Bugs the hell out of me), so I ordered a 2nd one just to have on hand.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
I picked one up in case the glass is a bust
[Note 7 Accessories] chillsen:
Yea man you can have faith in me, I will even personally help you with the install, this product is a homerun but the reviews don't show it because of poor installation from users. cheers.
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
i have installed a few just dont prefer the spongy/sticky impressionable feel of the others. You pics make it look amazing so ill give it a try for $8
[Note 7 Accessories] chillsen:
i know exactly what you mean, and it will have those properties, just not as extreme as others i.e. IQ Shield, and it's very HD.
[Note 7 Accessories] XavierAD:
Has anyone tried the iLoome screen protector?
[Note 7 Accessories] MKchrias:
Sadly ArmorSuit not available to ship to UK or on Amazon UK!
[Note 7 Accessories] Vaelin Al Sorna:
I figure I'll just ask in this thread instead of making a new one. I really do not want to have a case on this phone. It is such a great design and feel that whenever I put a case on it just doesn't feel right. However, I don't want to break this $900 toy. What is the best way to go about protecting it without a case? Looks like no one has actually found a full adhesive glass screen yet.

What I did on my old iPhones was get a true bumper only "case" with tempered glass. By Bumper only I mean there was just a cross section on the back connecting the bumpers, no actual back coverage. Anyone know if there is anything like this out there?
[Note 7 Accessories] spinedoc:
How does the armorsuit feel? Is it rubbery with orange peel like the crap that Skinomi sells? I'd love to find something with the exact same feel as the cheap screen adhesive that my Note 7 had out of the box! It was a thinner, harder plastic that almost felt like glass.
[Note 7 Accessories] maxyoda:
Received mine yesterday. The adhesive is on the edges only.
[Note 7 Accessories] sonnymarrow:
Is this a look at Zagg's protector? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZAGG-Invisi...861163?hash=item2a6f79846b:g:-uwAAOSwawpXwlX7

It's not even listed on their website, but I've found it on multiple Australian web sites. Could mean it's actual release is soon. I got burned by their S7 Edge protector though...
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
well that sucks
[Note 7 Accessories] kirschdog1:
Did you buy one?
[Note 7 Accessories] fgr:
Very slight orange peel. Not real noticeable though.

The first few days it did feel a little rubbery. As time goes by that has gone away for the most part. I guess it just takes awhile for it to fully dry.

All that being said, it still doesn't feel like glass. But as picky as I am, I'm happy with it.
[Note 7 Accessories] King Cole:
Hey guys, look what just got posted up on Amazon today: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K4DNF04/ref=pd_luc_rh_spmrai?th=1
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
not full adhesive
[Note 7 Accessories] racinwarrior:
got the IQ tempered glass today. It is not full adhesive. Unfortunately.
[Note 7 Accessories] force70:
And the hunt continues..

Ive been running naked the last few weeks since this phone will be exhanged so i dont give a damn if I damage it.

I have not been even remotely careful with it at all...not a scratch on it.

As with many things on the web things get overly exaggerated including this screens vulnerability it seems.
[Note 7 Accessories] stas333:
Same here, 2 weeks and not a scratch
[Note 7 Accessories] NZCloud:
NZ

Will grab one of these and yet you know

http://www.trademe.co.nz/mobile-phones/accessories/screen-protectors/auction-1170903097.htm

Have a read...sounds like the real deal
[Note 7 Accessories] hotspace:
This looks very similar to the few that I received direct from the China manufacturers. It did work. There is a strip of adhesive down both sides, and the top and bottom are also adhesion points.

But...

Rainbow = Yes There is no adhesion in the center...this will always result in rainbow.

As soon as you put your case on, the pressure from all sides popped the glass off. And, there was no way to adhere it a second time.

I hope the case you've found is the exception to all of these problems. I'm leery....
[Note 7 Accessories] Tweh:
I had hoped for a while....
[Note 7 Accessories] Tweh:
I'm going to have to grab one of the wet applications until the search ends. They have good coverage and a shock absorption that will do the job
[Note 7 Accessories] NZCloud:
The reason i liked the look was point 5.... Press gently on the middle part of the glass. Watch and wait for the adhesive part to spread across your screen.

Not just the adhesive around the sides which Ive tried a few off too. Will wait and see
[Note 7 Accessories] bigwilk01:
I really wish they would've made a full adhesive curved screen. My phone fell off my bathroom sink with a case and glass screen protector on and now my upper left corner is shattered. I'm not very happy.
[Note 7 Accessories] Vic35:
There is no shock absorption on the wet applies ... I use a skinomi tech skin version 2 with a ringke fusion and so far so good . Edges stick and the case does not lift it