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[Galaxy S6 General] Burtrum57:
In reality all they have to do is provide security.

You bought a smart phone and it had on it the current version of Android of the time. It was an operating system that was fully functional. They don't need to give you the latest version of Android. Your phone behaves exactly as it did when you purchased it.

Think of this. You buy a car and next year they bring out a model that has 20% more power. What are your chances of going back to the show room and saying I want the upgrade for more power. What do you think there answer would be.

The Samsung is still a very good phone, nice display, quick enough, and reliable. If you want the latest software go buy a phone that has it. Don't keep bending our ears in your disgruntlement at not getting what you really aren't entitled to.
[Galaxy S6 General] cokey77:
Well you can sort of get upgrades for cars if there electric like tesla they get firmware updates and you can also modifie them. Phones are just the same as computers and should get regular updates as far as security goes but they don't have to give you the latest Android version that's something that's up to them.
[Galaxy S6 General] Burtrum57:
That's what I was trying to say in my awkward manner. You can get updates but they cost. To expect and then demand Samsung do it for nothing because you bought a phone last year is a bit presumptuous.

I think that is why we, as a community in general, are so grateful to devs. They put in a lot of hours for no payment and all they seem to cop is demands and whinges. Some of us feel privileged that they are happy to share their labours, and answer often stupid questions with tolerance and humour and bring us the latest versions with the mods we all like.

I'll yell this.

MANY THANKS TO ALL DEVS FOR THE WORK YOU PUT INTO YOUR ROMS
[Galaxy S6 General] Holty07:
Do you have a link for this?
[Galaxy S6 General] Mercz23:
Its private because is still on beta
[Galaxy S6 General] Windforce0511:
Please don't spam!
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
Private nougat oficial s6 ???
[Galaxy S6 General] rovahgti:
Regular Nougat rollout begins for the Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 edge in China and the UK
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
Regular Nougat rollout begins next year 2018 Feb 13 for the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 edge in China and the UK:silly:
[Galaxy S6 General] crixley:
Lol this is such a stupid analogy...

These are electronics we're talking about, would you buy a laptop that would never see an update?

If what you say were true, companies would just release hundreds of phones a month with no repercussion, since they would never need to support them whatsoever.

This line of thought drives people away from android. 35.5% of people are still on kitkat for gods sake.

We're talking about a $1000 phone here, holding companies accountable brings about change.

It takes a year for like 1% of people to be on the latest os, that is sad.

This is what apple is doing right imo, and why people tend to be so loyal.

My macbook pro from 2011 still gets updates.

I can't really think of any electronics aside from cell phones that suffer from such short life cycles and such planned obsolescence.
[Galaxy S6 General] adisan2002:
that's funny :)
[Galaxy S6 General] cokey77:
Why are the us s6 handsets getting security updates the s6 active is getting December patch what's going on with these updates it's so hit and miss.
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
Where is our beer? :cyclops:
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
Hahaha beer??? Better food
[Galaxy S6 General] rovahgti:
My spy Samsung dealer gave false information and we threw him into the pit to the alligators.
[Galaxy S6 General] Jizzylax:
Nougat is definitely months out.
[Galaxy S6 General] harisbr99:
We didnt get europe monthly security updates since october,maybe samsung wants to hurry up with nougat release :D
[Galaxy S6 General] mystery1989:
Let's hope that many great ROM will be updated to 7.0 and kernels such arter97 kernel, probably also nato will have to wait because the orginal 7.0 will not pay to install due to the battery and devouring a lot of unnecessary apk system of Producent which absorbs framework and batteries.
[Galaxy S6 General] Edge330:
I hope that someone will make debloated nougat ROM, something similiar like xtrastolite!
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
if the smart company ''samsung'' release a bilion phones a year this is gonna happen if you really want support and new features samsung is the worst choice we have abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz whats next ?
[Galaxy S6 General] Aria.A97:
If Edgar doesn't update his XtreStoLite to Nougat, I will update it.
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
''i will take the rom to nougat'' :laugh:
[Galaxy S6 General] Mercz23:
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/1...evices-that-will-receive-android-7-0-updates/
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
This should make people happy :laugh:
[Galaxy S6 General] znayver:
ouuuh yeees samsung confirme that galaxy s6 will get android nougat :D
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
Also Grace UX and new features ?
[Galaxy S6 General] oSandmaNo:
Before the first half of 2017. By that time, the O dev previews will be out
[Galaxy S6 General] JL94x4:
I wonder if S6 will get AOD with N7
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
SamMobile did implied that but the Samsung blog post has no mention of it :confused:
[Galaxy S6 General] abdelha:
but we already knew that the S6 will get 7.0...so it's not any good....we want to know what we really get and when....of course the S6 will get 7.0....every samsung flagship get two major updates....the S6 got 6.0 and 7.0.....so i don't know why some people look excited
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
why because we are gonna be very pist off if we only get nougat update without the interface like grace ux and the AOD:confused:

they have to release it because the midrange devices are getting it to so if they dont release it the most of us are gone and especially me cause im sick of the **** of samsung its not fair that midrange devices get all the goodies and the flagship is getting nothing you think this is normal ? only fanboys will buy another samsung devices samung can be big but the logic of that company is 0 they have to copie some other thing of other companys how to relaese updates and be fair to people buy a device of 700/800 euro and gets no new features and thats why we are excited and still dont know why people are like sheeps and buying a phone thats so expensive and treated like nothing well good luck with a company like this :silly:
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
We will see that new things, but i have, not so much
[Galaxy S6 General] abdelha:
no company is perfect, apple gives you a lot of updates, but they don't innovate at all, the same goes to HTC, when you look at the M9, that had one of the worst camera's, not that great screen, so to convince people to buy it they try to put some life into it, think about it, if samsung releases every flagship feature for the old flagship then there is no need to buy the new one, the S6 is two years old but still only the S7, has a better camera and screen, so giving it the features of the S7 is like shooting your own leg....i wish they bring the S7 features but it doesn't make any sense
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
yeah thats right but what about the midrange deviceses does that make any sense? they have all the goodies and the s6 flagship cost more than the midrange and its more powerfull sorry but this doesnt make any sense to :eek:
[Galaxy S6 General] abdelha:
but these mid range devices has a worse camera and screen than an old flagship...so they need to put something interesting....
[Galaxy S6 General] guilhermedsx:
We're not getting Always On Display. Be grateful that we're getting Grace UX icons and theming (and the nougat features, of course), because that's pretty much it.
[Galaxy S6 General] blairo_1226:
All I want is Doze 2.0, I was on nougat with last phone (s4) and it is the best feature of nougat for me. While some will complain about the lack of aod on s6, I'm happy to get more battery for my usage, not for all background "bloat" tasks. I test it and with doze on the go it's a great improvement compared to doze 1.0 already included in marshmallow.
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
A few days people were complaining saying that Samsung would say that S6 wasn't "powerful" to run N, others were saying that we would get N but MM UI. Now Samsung pretty much confirms N and Grace UX, new features and people still complains about AOD. LOL Y'all hard to please
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
sorry to say it but this isnt fair midrange devices like a series get the feature aod so whats the point to give money and buy samsung phones totally not logical midrange have more featutes than a s series phone ? well i call it pure bull**** :rolleyes: s serie we pay 600 euro and get no features an midrange devices is about 200/300 euro and get the latest omg just no logic :eek: and people talking like this is it fun to pay that much ? every year to get features were is the logic please damn hahaa but okey
[Galaxy S6 General] halloo13:
Nah... S5 didn't get S6's MM UI with the 6.0 Update.. but S4 get S5's UI with the 5.0 Update.. I can't immagine the Galaxy S6 with Nougat but without Grace UI..
[Galaxy S6 General] Windforce0511:
Guys, we will get Grace UX for sure because Note 5 already have it and our device and Note 5 are both the same year flagship devices.
[Galaxy S6 General] cokey77:
What features are left off the iPhone 6s compared to iPhone 7 setting aside any hardware the 7 has over the 6s. I think if we compare the way other companies update there devices we can see weather or not Samsung treat there customers fairly.
[Galaxy S6 General] sunyakram:
weren't getting AOD coz our s6 is nearly 2 years old, and it's battery's timing isn't the same as the 2016 or 17's midrange devices, i think Sammy guys are defensive at this point, they don't want people complaining about their (not much)new feature.
[Galaxy S6 General] yoones.asghari.76:
I've got tired of waiting for grace ux and nougat update?

Guys do you know any stable rom with grace ux for S6 ? ?

I found NOBEL ROM page in XDA , but there +300 pages and I got confused
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
The battery is not the point when it comes aod, there are A series 2017 phones with the same battery and even slightly less which are getting aod, if we don't get it, it won't be because of hardware limitations, I don't care if we get it or not, I'd rather try and squeeze as much battery out the s6 rather than have well to put it bluntly a not essential feature.

Oh and just to add to this, the s6 is a flagship device of course and it was expensive, 2 years ago! Samsung are still updating a 2 year old phone when they have a handful other flagships to update, never mind the middle and low end phones they are releasing. How much more do you expect? Have a look at the rest of the last generation flagships from sony, LG, HTC, you'll find they all have similar update policies. Oh and don't even bring apple devices into this, ios and Android are 2 completely different ecosystems
[Galaxy S6 General] sunyakram:
im not a geek , i was talking about our battery charge and discharge cycles , ive charged my phone more then 3000 times so its getting week . i dont know much about hardware of software limitation.

all i want is early 7.0 with AOD.
[Galaxy S6 General] 350Rocket:
Not necessarily complaining, but I'm from Canada where we sometimes seem to get left behind without updates on our carrier variants (LG g2 left on KitKat), but my old m9 I gave to my girlfriend just got the nougat OTA last week.

Both released at the same time, you would think Samsung would be better able to get the update out on time than HTC that is barely staying in business despite making good phones. Yes the display is nicer on the s6 but 2 years later the m9 screen is still perfect and the s6 has bad burn in.

I'd still be happy with either phone and as long as we eventually get the update, than custom roms can continue to be built on the update without major bugs.

I'll continue to use xtrestolite 3.3.1 until I see what Roms people are using and happy with based on nougat.
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
I get what you mean, but how many phones does htc release a year compared to samsung? Htc has one flagship model samsung has more than one, and like mentioned before the the amount of phones released versus updates, I think we're in a much better position. The only thing that holds samsung back is its reliance on its exynos chipset
[Galaxy S6 General] Strafrecht:
I really dont worry about the Grace UX, cuz I know we will get that

Look at the Samsungphones with Nougat, they all have Grace UX. That means they dont have a TW with all its old bloatwares on Nougat at all (otherwise they would likely load the new a-series with it) and they definitely will not intend to make one for and only for S6. Samsung is just too lazy to do that, we all know it, dont we?
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
Graceux is pretty much confirmed so we'll defo be getting that with the nougat update. I think what a lot of people are more so wanting to know is aod, which is up in the air whether we'll get it or not.
[Galaxy S6 General] Strafrecht:
thats the question.

After my experience with moto x and s6, s7, I would say the aod is not so useful, not until its as "active" like the moto active display. Its always switched off on my s7.

But sure they shall roll it out for s6. The credo of all reasonable customers: I may not be using it, but u must give it:D
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
If they do give it, I honestly won't be using it, but I won't be surprised if samsung don't provide it with the update, obviously hardware wise there's no doubt it will work, it's more so the fact the s6 is a 2 year old device, samsung would prefer you buy their newer phones, the s6 second hand price is not bad, in the UK you can buy a 2nd hand one for £250, samsung know this too.
[Galaxy S6 General] sachs:
A8 2.2 very good rom.
[Galaxy S6 General] netmaniack:
I bought last week mine for 240 eur in total on contract from My carrier, and that is new. So Samsung knows prices for sure.
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
Galaxy S6 Nougat release draws near with Wi-Fi certification:

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-s6-nougat-release-draws-near-with-wi-fi-certification/
[Galaxy S6 General] Fury556:
I was going to post that :D

Hopefully a good sign that it's not too far away. Interesting to note it's the 920V - would the F not have been first? Or not required?
[Galaxy S6 General] Windforce0511:
No, thanks
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
Galaxy S6 edge+ Nougat update being tested by Samsung:

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-s6-edge-nougat-update-being-tested-by-samsung/
[Galaxy S6 General] vipanonymous:
Here in Brazil we stopped receiving security patches in November, I wonder what they're planning.
[Galaxy S6 General] vlatkonexus4:
I have Samsung Galaxy S6(SM-G920F) Country Code SEE(multi csc) last update was on 26.10.2016 with october securety patch,since than nothing......maybe nougat is near
[Galaxy S6 General] cokey77:
The updates are all over the place for the s6 depending on region country etc some handsets security patches are on October some on November some December it doesn't make sense. But what is the same is no one knows why no one knows for sure what this Nougat update will bring and when they will get it.
[Galaxy S6 General] Merken_:
Same here, haven't received any update passed october on Belgian/Luxembourg device : 920F LUX
[Galaxy S6 General] Windforce0511:
Next security update will come with Nougat
[Galaxy S6 General] halloo13:
And Nougat will bring a new Bootloader (5x) to the S6 devices. I think the next update will be Nougat so we can't downgrade to 6.0.1 if it's bad.. Samsung is preventing downgrades..
[Galaxy S6 General] Mercz23:
Lol nougat will be best update for samsung devices thats what they say.
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
January security patch now arriving on the Galaxy S6 edge+ in Europe

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/25/january-security-patch-now-arriving-on-the-galaxy-s6-edge-in-europe/

Pfff still nothing:(
[Galaxy S6 General] Diaze:
Lol we r ****ed :)) it s gonna be april-march now..
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
For then s6 nougat, we will see you late
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
they are very slow can somebody go tell them to hurry the f*ckup damn just cant believe why the hell they cant make 1 motherboard that works in every country somthing like how apple does one phone that works everywere
[Galaxy S6 General] Diaze:
There is a new firmware for s6 edge from emirates..so nougat will be most likely in april
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
So the waiting is long.nougat is Slow
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
getting sick of samsung and i hope they do something nice withe the update or im gonna be very pist off and at the same to my last samusng phone
[Galaxy S6 General] hare89:
Relax guys not even s7/s7e didnt get it yet, only few regions...
[Galaxy S6 General] blairo_1226:
It's a shame that s7 didn't receive it yet. Smart lock is bugged on marshmallow. I got better/stable custom roms on my old fellow s4.. And better, it can run cm14 flawlessly. For some it's seem to be "normal" to get only updates for 2 years, in my case I bought it new in last November, is it normal that my new phone will only get support for some months? In that case, they should stop selling the phone model that will not be longer supported.. I will stay calm and buy a nexus next time. Some asses need to be kicked at SAMSUNG.
[Galaxy S6 General] netmaniack:
For how much money did You buy it? I got mine for 240eur just now, and that is more than a half price at launch day. I'm not bragging about updates or anything, I know that I bought an older flagship device that is almost 2years old and support most likely on major Android versions will end soon. I was sure that I will get Nougat in some time and I'm happy about it. Otherwise Marshmellow is just fine for Me to. If You wanted a better Android OS upgradability thru time You should buy Nexus in first place. I'm not defending Samsung (just coming from LG), I don't even quite like Samsung (bad experience in past whit support and Touchwiz), but now Touchwiz is quite good and support is the same as all major manufacturers - 2years.
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
kicked ass? no they should be fired i would like to slap the person in the face that made this stupid ass update policy of samsung their is no logic in that company with software damn they can copy everything of appel but the best part the dont copy and thats the damn update policy we have to wait years till does suckers release a update to a phone why they cant just make one phone for example s8 that works in every region like APPLE does is it that hard to make it possible why the hell can every other company do it and a company like samsung just f*cked up and why the hell they dont make less phones!!!! damn i want to kick that person ass!! not gonna buy any of their phone just f*ck it ill give my money to a other company that gives me nice and fast updates and at least they release the damn sources to flash AOSP roms! i hope the S8 will be a fail to.
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
Every top manufacturer has an update schedule of atleast 2 years for their flagships, check for yourself if you don't believe me with Sony, LG, HTC and so on, the updates are from the release of the phone not when you purchase it!
[Galaxy S6 General] blairo_1226:
I know all that, fellow corporations defender, I raise my voice to make Android great again haha I love Samsung for his hardware, in other hand since my s2, I like to be up to date software side. That's why I normally root and flash custom rom or aosp. In the case of s6 and his exynos private source, I'm stuck with stock rom and all bloatwares came with it. On the top of that i don't have nougat that was released a year ago, that's the culprit (2 years of support : ok, but turtle speed development is still a shame :silly:
[Galaxy S6 General] le_lutin:
What do you mean "nice"? What exactly are you hoping for with the new update?
[Galaxy S6 General] Shaneee:
Have some patience guys. They take their time do its realised with as few bugs as possible. Would you rather a have assed update?
[Galaxy S6 General] BrianXDA:
Guys i just came over to say goodbye to you all! I finally sold my s6 and bought a nexus 6P :D I feel like I'm in heaven lol it's so f*ckin smooth and quick. Good luck with the s6 and keep waiting for nougat :D maybe one day you'll get it hehe
[Galaxy S6 General] betrayed666:
haha, it's like exchanging an apple for a watermelon :d
[Galaxy S6 General] adisan2002:
For those who do not resist waiting for nougat: Stop complaining, please .. the update will come, that's for sure .. anything else is a cry baby ... :)
[Galaxy S6 General] le_lutin:
My wife has the 6p and I'd definitely not swap it for the S6.

All the best though with your new purchase. Glad you're happy.
[Galaxy S6 General] Navios92:
How old are you?
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
yes what i hope is that we get the new clean interface and AOD and the screen scaling from 720p to 1080p or 2k like s7 does and the separate themes that we can chose icons seprate from the theme it self and hope the battery will good.
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
We expect great improvements
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
I'm going stay realistic with my expectations, the s8 will be released soon, so that will leave the flagship hierarchy s8->s7->s6, I don't see the nougat update being released till March, bearing that in mind I don't expect samsung to give the s6 every little thing, I don't expect them to give aod, would be a welcome surprise, the display scaling would be a great benefit, but I refuse to fill my head with notions that just because mid range 2017 samsung phones have got something a 2015 flagship will get it.

Did the HTC m8 get a decent upgrade? Htc 10->htc m9->htc m8. I know we pay a lot for devices like this but sometimes you gotta look at things subjectively and not just things you expect a manufacturer to give you.

I'm not exactly a samsung fan boy, prior to the s6 I only owned a s3 lte, before that I had a few Sony Xperia phones, LG g3, HTC m8, I've been all these forums for a good while, and it's very similar when it comes to major android update cycles, I think as a consumer it's in our nature, there's times where people just need to calm down a bit over it
[Galaxy S6 General] netmaniack:
I agree. There is much more better thing to do whit life that whine about this.
[Galaxy S6 General] abdelha:
everything you said is right....but the M8 isn't S6 class...the M9 is...the M8 was S5 rival....
[Galaxy S6 General] sofir786:
I'm not comparing the rivalry, I was comparing the update cycles more than anything else.
[Galaxy S6 General] abdelha:
the M9 released with the S6, don't forget the A9....
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
Model	SM-G920F

Model name	Galaxy S6

Country	United Arab Emirates

Version	Android 6.0.1

Changelist	9151931

Build date	Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:47:17 +0000

Security Patch Level	2017-01-01

Product code	XSG

PDA	G920FXXS5DQA3

CSC	G920FOJV4DPI4

https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/121108/G920FXXS5DQA3_G920FOJV4DPI4_XSG/
[Galaxy S6 General] javitolopez69:
Btu no update ????
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
they better release does features to our s6/s6edge or this is my last samsung phone :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjTzZy3XlLA
[Galaxy S6 General] netmaniack:
Start a riot, smash cars.
[Galaxy S6 General] khanvict90:
thats a good idea man! :victory:
[Galaxy S6 General] Baby.Boy:
I have never wanted a ROM so badly. Not even Cyanogen(LineageOS now).

I mean I'm still on 5.1 and I was never interested in updating to 6, but I really can't wait for Nougat.

Checking the net probably twice or triple times a day.

C'mon SamSong, what are you doing, really?

And about the features that are discussed in the last pages, well it would be extremely disappointing if we don't get those features.
[Galaxy S6 General] Windforce0511:
You are still on 5.1?! This is not for you in general.
[Galaxy S6 General] Baby.Boy:
Yes, I am!

Why not? Because it might be different? I really don't think that would be a problem.