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[Nexus 6  General] Lawlrus:
You make your account just to be a bawl ass? Being entitled makes you a douche, its not the end of the world that google didn't release official, go flash dp5 and quit your damn crying
[Nexus 6  General] endless_nameless:
Your avatar is pretty indicative of your quick wit, huh?
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Sheesh guys. shut up. we were actually talking about why it was being delayed. stop yelling at each other and just wait.
[Nexus 6  General] AarSyl:
Indeed, it is. Almost comical, but then you realize that these people are serious...

Doesn't sound like sarcasm to me. The posts are starting to sound like, "I want it! I WANT IT! I WANT IIIIIIIT!!!!!"

This thread has run its course. It needs to be closed.
[Nexus 6  General] vladtdr:
And you think this is OK? A company as big as Google and with as many resources as them? They can't appoint more than one team to work on updates simultaneously? I know that manufacturer's don't give a **** about updates but like i said i thought the nexus line was different and that's why i bought a nexus phone. And they can release preview builds at the same time but when it comes to the final build they do this? Shame!!! Also, people on this thread that say they are glad that they have to wait have entered crazy teritory...
[Nexus 6  General] endless_nameless:
If you thought my request for a pre-release of "Android Oreo" was serious, you may need to reconsider what you think of as serious.
[Nexus 6  General] demigodchewtoy:
I heard Oreo doesn't come with Milk. I'm glad Nexus 6 isn't getting it.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
The Nexus line is different, because Google themselves send out the update to the devices. This results in a faster update for the end user when compared to updates sent out by the device manufacturer or cellular service provider.

The device manufacturers really don't care about updates. Under ordinary circumstances this comment would not apply to the Nexus devices as Google does not make the hardware. However, with the Nexus 6 being released at a time when Google owned Motorola, the statement is applicable, even if wrong.

I haven't had a Nexus device until now, so all I've been used to is manufacturers offering erratic updates for a short period of time before dropping support altogether. Don't forget the custom interface skins every device manufacturer uses and takes time to test. That right there can set an update back months.

I personally don't care when the update gets here as I won't change until Pure Nexus is ready. I just know it will get here, as I don't labor under unrealistic expectations.
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
You know that Google won't be cutting support by October. We will get all updates until 8.0 next year.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
At this point, I'd welcome that. This thread is a bunch of people arguing now, I literally just made this thread to start some discussion and a lot of whining and acting 12 years old soon followed.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
2 things.

1. Just because it stars it out doesnt mean you will not be infracted/banned for swearing.

2. If you got the nexus just because of the updates. You are doing it wrong. Let alone a device that is just about EOL.
[Nexus 6  General] snowrelyt:
If I'm doing it wrong, then I don't want to be right.
[Nexus 6  General] pclov3r:
Uhm no? That is for FULL OS updates. Security updates will continue for awhile longer. Also they say guaranteed not a hard cut off date. Their blog post said at-least two years.

Why would they announce the Nexus 6 is getting it on their blog to only take it away? With this logic the 6P isn't getting it as well because there is no factory images for it yet.

I don't think google would suddenly change their model to closed source...
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Well.... There have been some things Google has fixed that they never pushed to aosp source code for some of the aosp packages
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Then you are here for the wrong ones as well.

I mean no offence. But the reason the nexus and XDA go so well together is that they are both tools you help you learn. One gives you the code, the other helps you learn how to use it.
[Nexus 6  General] pclov3r:
Yeah, It appears they are focused on google apps and a majority of android users here running custom ROMs will be using them.

I was reading the comment as that we should be lucky they released source code at all for the core android OS.
[Nexus 6  General] snowrelyt:
Listen. I'm just here to flash roms and chew nougat, but I'm all out of nougat.

What I mean is, I like bleeding-edge, bloat-free software and I'm a flashaholic. So the only thing that fills those requirements is the Nexus line, on account of its very strong developer community.
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
I have a nexus 6 and 6p, and neither have received a factory image. The 6p can get an OTA to the Nougat final, but that it's is only ~79 MB, and from what I've seen doesn't change much.

The dp5 build is basically the final build, flash it and enjoy and just wait. We've waited almost a year for android 7.0, a few extra days is a drop in the bucket.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Amen! Knowledge is power!
[Nexus 6  General] vladtdr:
No dude, i got the nexus 6 for the amazing camera... :|
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Then your here for the wrong reasons. Yet so are many others so you are not alone.
[Nexus 6  General] snowrelyt:
Okay, so if the only right reason to be on XDA is to learn, why do people bother posting roms and app they develop?
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
So others can see what is possible and so others can see what they can achieve from learning as well as showcasing what those developers have learned.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I absolutely LOVE how big the development is for the Nexus line! THIS is why I love Nexus! The first updates are an added bonus! Mostly just love to see new developments taking place all the time! A lot of them are completely original! :D Not to mention these are probably the BEST hardware for people who like to tinker with their phones lol Keep it up XDA!
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
I have been following this thread for some time now. And while I do believe the OP started it as a discussion thread.... seriously this thread has turned into something else entirely... whining and complaining about "where's my promised update". I have been a nexus user for a few years now. Trust this wait we are having is nothing like some of the past updates for previous Nexus phones. And the wait is a heck of a lot less then anything you will get from any phone manufacturer. While there is an occasional post on here that is relevant, I feel this thread has for the most part ended its original intended direction about 15 pages back if not more.

I mean no offense to the OP, but I think requesting this thread closed would be a welcome outcome. Or unless a few can get over their whining and complaining and turn this thread back around to its again, original intended direction, closing would probably be the best result for this thread at this time.

Thank you OP for the thread, but sadly this thread has turned into nothing but immature whining posts. If I want whining I have two kids I can turn to for that, lol. Anyways....yeah........
[Nexus 6  General] *SanSiro*:
I see a lot of whining about immature whining posts! ;)
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
For the same reason we were all doing this before most people even knew what a smart phone was. For fun and learning. You have to remember that we were doing this long before android came about. Back when it took more then some simple script to make things.

It is also the reason many developers have left or now share most things privately and only post the simple stuff. Developers are tired of people just coming here without the want to learn.
[Nexus 6  General] :
SMH I would rather ignore the whiny posts, as it was getting on nerves. At first I was disappointed Google didn't release Nexus 6 Android 7.0 image, but I decided that giving up on it was the best course of action, and I will say I was glad because staying bummed for too long isn't good for you.

HOWEVER, Nexuses just refuse to die (look at HTC Dream G1, it have gotten so far to Jelly Beans, until it was mothballed for its CPU limitation - ie. not superscalar - however, Nexuses containing Snapdragon SOC will last much longer in term of developmental milestones due to out-of-order superscalar processors inside them), and XDA kind of exist for that reasons, not to mention my Verizon RAZR M (XT907) getting CyanogenMod 13 Marshmallow port. That's why I still come back for more.
[Nexus 6  General] snowrelyt:
Fun and learning only. Got it. Wanting to make your device function the way that suits you best is not a valid reason for being here, so where do you propose we go?
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
that comes under the category of "fun"...
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Then that would be the learning part. As if you use someone else stuff then you are making your device run the way someone else thinks works best. Same are running a stock rom.
[Nexus 6  General] RenderBroken:
Guys, what you have to learn is, when Google releases a Dev preview, it is OK that there is a bug or two. When they release a new preview they have certain things they are looking for and testing and Google is at the point now where they want to directly compete with Apple's iOS smoothness and User Experience. There are still people that get turned off by Android phones because something niggles them about the phone they tried out and tested and they still have an iPhone 4 that runs beautifully. All this to say that Google wants to release a stable build. Not a mostly stable build that they will have to send out OTAs to fix small bugs. Alot of people buy Nexus phones because they do want the newest OS and features. All of that can be soured pretty quickly if there are still issues when it is pushed out to everyone else that is not in the Beta Program. I am almost certain that the reason they have not released Nougat for the N6 is because it was not "perfect". This isn't Verizon making an OS that works just for Verizon, or the same with ATT, TMO, etc. This is Google releasing a stable build that works perfectly for all carriers including Project FI which is pretty intricate. Not only that but you have to have certified stable device blobs as well. (Modem, GPU Drivers, etc) All of these have to be tested.

I just do not understand the entitled nature of some users. I am here at XDA to Learn, have fun, and to try out new things. To push my phone further than stock. But I come from an IT background so I also understand the processes involved behind the scenes that the end user is completely oblivious to. Maybe that makes me more forgivable when there is a delayed release. I understand that there is a legitimate reason behind it. At the very least, people that are unhappy have to that there is a reason and they should be happy that they are not saddled with a buggy release.

Lastly, if you want Nougat faster, learn to build it. There is already a user that has done so. That is also what XDA is about. I started out learning to Dev because I wanted KK on my Old S2. Now I enjoy building kernels for myself and for others too.
[Nexus 6  General] snowrelyt:
What? Then why are you saying I'm here for the wrong reasons?
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
perfectly expressed, and totally true, every single word of it!!:good::good:
[Nexus 6  General] GrayBoltWolf:
Are we still complaining about how people are complaining?

It seems that one person is upset about the update then 5 people have to reply with self-righteous posts telling them to chill out or whatever. I don't see how that is any better than the original person complaining.

And I know this post falls under what I just described. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
So much this. As soon as the stuff for the nexus 6 is updated I will be building myself for sure. Just right now we dont have the kernel source or new blobs for the N6.
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
The preview blobs are working fine
[Nexus 6  General] ronaldheld:
In instead of Whinning, has anyone posted the delta's between DP5 and 7.0.X?
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Not to my standards they are not.
[Nexus 6  General] mipd1980:
Who am I and how did I get here??? :p

At least I know I'm not alone, still love my Nexus 6!!! Some will never see the update so better late then never.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
What is missing as far as the Google blobs and such? Is there a big difference than preview? Because now Oneplus one has an unofficial build of 7. Are these basically mickey mouse roms or themed roms?
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
They are pretty much hack together roms. Using outdated stuff that wasn't meant to work with the new system.

As for what is missing there is no telling until they post it as the ota are not complete files, just updates and some of the stuff will most likely be changed or removed.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
To tell you the truth im pretty happy just dp5 not even rooted its plenty fast and animations .5
[Nexus 6  General] lukegman:
Google said they lost their nexus six in a house fire started by the wife and is currently going through a divorce. Can't afford a new phone right now because of being in the hospital and lost their job. Maybe an update soon.

Sent from nexus 6

* donations always appreciated*
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
It is pretty fast. Can't say about the animations as I disabled them myself.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
I dont understand it all blobs binaries etc but ive noticed battery life is grt. Apps download faster snappier and redraw and multi window flys. Im coming from marshmallow and dp5 bam lol. just had the phone two weeks used
[Nexus 6  General] PWn3R:
I made one of the science project roms that [MENTION=1140856]zelendel[/MENTION] was referring to. To confirm what he is saying: there are known issues, with several things, but if you want to mess around, have at it. Please read the threads. These were made with the DP5 proprietary blobs, and the 7.0_r1 code. The one I made was also compiled with the Uber toolchain, has dm-verify and forceencrypt removed. I tried to make some other changes, but I have only worked with CM, Beanstalk and Exodus/Vanir as far as the build process, files and other things. The changes I made yesterday turned into a 6 hour rabbit hole of trying to patch up stuff I broke by making some small tweaks that worked on everything else I've worked with and had no repercussions.

As far as those who are unhappy that we don't have a build for the Nexus 6 yet, I'd say based on a couple things I have seen with build I made, Google hasn't released it because there's probably going to be a radio firmware update, and some other changes to the QUALCOMM blobs that are supplied. It will come, when it's ready, and anyone here complaining about it isn't likely to get us anything, so why waste your time.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Yeah it works ok. Have not tried multi window as it is feature I never found much use in.
[Nexus 6  General] :
It's mentioned that battery life is great on Android 7.0 is what I am looking for in an Android OS. I tried DP5 Beta, it was actually quite decent. I had to roll back to CyanogenMod 13 for now as DP5 may have issues that the final image is supposed to have fixed. I also hope Singularity kernel may also be ported to CM14 or custom AOSP ROM (one of my favorite AOSP ROM would be AOSiP), for ridiculously long battery life. The less often you charge the battery, the longer it will last. My phone is 13 months old, and its battery still perform like new (about 200 - 300 recharging cycle already spent).

All in all, there may be some changes in the bootloader and radio in the updated Android 7.0 final image, so I'd wait. Hopefully this week.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
I'm still waiting on turron. Turron is nougat in spanish
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Yea nothing yet. Hopefully real soon, it's expected by the end of the month, just a couple days away.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Is the source code out? Android Authority says this or is it click bait
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
Yep.

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest/+/android-7.0.0_r1

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/android-7.0.0_r1

http://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
But obviously only for the WiFi devices.
[Nexus 6  General] xdatastic:
It's there for Nexus 6\Shamu too, but no proprietary binaries available yet (other than the preview binaries) and I'm not sure on how well it builds.

https://android.googlesource.com/device/moto/shamu/+/android-7.0.0_r1
[Nexus 6  General] rockinroyle:
Also no kernel source for Shamu. Only developer preview.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
It probably builds, and somebody already has a version of it running, but it's not stable enough, as I understood.

But my comment for it being WiFi only was from this table:

http://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html#source-code-tags-and-builds
[Nexus 6  General] jmartin72:
How did you re-enroll? I left the beta, and now I can't get it to recognize that I have a phone that is eligible.
[Nexus 6  General] bodi524:
Back when the beta program first started I had to create a 2nd Gmail account on my Nexus 6. I singed in and enrolled with that account. I can now enroll or unenroll with account as many times as I need
[Nexus 6  General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned - trolling isn't big, funny or welcome.
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
Just wondering what is so messed up that it takes Google over a week to get it fixed. Or are they waiting till September 5 with the factory images of the N6 and 6P?
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
No idea, people are saying it was the radio that was really messed up. It must have been really bad for them to delay this long.
[Nexus 6  General] FernandoRocker:
How do you know that the Nexus 6P images are going to be released on September 5th?
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
I don't. Was just a question, both the N5 and 6P factory images haven't been released yet.
[Nexus 6  General] SynisterWolf:
N5 will not get android N from google.
[Nexus 6  General] gothy.gothy:
... and 5x got already...
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
My misstake..needs to be the N6
[Nexus 6  General] veesix:
That's likely, at this point. We'll see.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 6 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 6  General] peekie:
Trouble with the nexus 6 is its a 32bt phone which could be causing a delay , but looking at the last dev preview being nearly the same as the real release , which does work perfectly on the N6 it does ask the question why its taking so long to get the update as the dev previews came out the same day to all nexus devices. guess i will have to wait abit longer to finally not see the beta screen everytime i boot up the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] mituzora:
I wonder if it has something to do with that problem that was being reported with t-mobile users where it would just randomly disconnect from data. I mean, at this point thats about the only thing I can think of.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
The dev preview does occasionally do that for me, I'm on T-Mobile. This is a good possibility.
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
Guys I guess we have to stop whinning about android 7 to come to shamu. A google employee already replied to us in the thread saying that its coming unfortunately he can't disclose it . It is already official, it has been announced. We will get our taste of Nougat in the coming days, months or weeks. Dont't lose hope. For now, I'll be closing the thread to prevent further unnecessaey discussion which could lead to something more serious. Thank you for your thoughts and opinions. I guess 35 pages is already enough.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Ppl have been reporting double icons in the status bar, a bug that was in most of the DP versions. Apparently the devs at Google have fixed it. I wonder if the delay is for the fix to be added before they release it.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I thought I was the only one! It tells me I don't have an eligible device when I know I do lol
[Nexus 6  General] VeryCrushed:
It's a common issue, yet Google can't seem to fix it
[Nexus 6  General] getvaisakh:
It works for me tho.. My device shown up there (on the beta enroll page) and I get an 800~900Mb OTA update after enrolling.. Didn't started downloading coz I don't know whether I will be able to update or not (I'm new to nexus).

The official page displays a 404 error, https://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
[Nexus 6  General] wbit:
Just use another e-mail adres and it works...

It means you have more than one Nexus 6 device registered. Maybe by changing provider or whatever you did. But that is The reason. And using another acount is The solution.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Tried that and even see my phone is my accounts in devices and activity and its checked not hidden
[Nexus 6  General] Kyronater:
For the Nexus 6?
[Nexus 6  General] idbl_fanatic:
No thank you...............................

"You may opt-out of the program at any time to return to the stable, public version of Android. Note: If you opt-out when your device is running a beta version of Android, all user data on the device will be wiped."
[Nexus 6  General] holeindalip:
Only wipes when you accept the ota to go back to mm, you can join the beta get the update and opt out and never accept the ota to go back and be fine
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
I am going to watch some television. Still no sign of android N for the N6

I check once more in an hour.
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
normal for someone who waits and anticipates an update..
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Yeah too, but you'd still need the binaries.
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
The update is still not available, just watch inside the factory..a sweets factory this time..on BBC2

Now just checked to see if Google finally got the factory image online but still notting for the N6

In 45 minutes its time to walk the dog and then of to bed. So guess it will be Wednesday before i get it.
[Nexus 6  General] bjacks12:
I'm shocked that my Nexus 9 got it yesterday. Usually the 9 is the one that gets delayed.
[Nexus 6  General] tjxddt:
I'm starting to think the reason that all devices(6P,5X, 6 and 9 LTE) don't have factory image yet is because of baseband issue.
[Nexus 6  General] clshores:
I'm beginning to believe the theory that I heard somewhere that phone devices may have had an issue and that they are fixing it before distribution. Seems like tablets and the player are the ones that got the update out of the gate. Patience is always hard when you have the opportunity to get something most Android users wont have anytime soon.
[Nexus 6  General] idbl_fanatic:
Was this an issue with the DP?
[Nexus 6  General] buschris:
downgrading now using Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit. Can't wait!
[Nexus 6  General] idbl_fanatic:
DownGRADING??
[Nexus 6  General] SciFiSurfer:
Still waiting...

I've had the G DP build on my phone for the past week or so, got everything backed up, and I just can't wait.

Oh, and btw... nothing yet. :laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
It's killing me! [emoji38] https://i.imgur.com/88WQFXx.jpg
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
What does downgrading do for you?
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
https://youtu.be/HA1mbZ_MMh8

Anyways, jokes aside, does anyone have any clues? Lol

EDIT: yea why downgrade?
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
We are so close Nexus player dropped or did the drop awhile back lol. I'm seeing things lol
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
Wi-Fi devices got system images. There's an issue with the baseband in the builds which is why they're not out yet.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Ive bought a phone with marshmallow and grabbed the latest N on Wug fresh but even know its says Im on beta i cant enroll or unroll is says no devices eligible so im going back to latest marshmallow will that help me get update?
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
It should.

You'll still have to wait for the update get pushed though.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
From everything ive seen on DP5 i have now thats pretty much all of N right? Because the update that dropped on other phones look the same.