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[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
I know, was just joking :D
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I hope it's by the end of the day! I'm anxious to flash it! And then to wait for my favorite kernel to update...... That could be a while.
[Nexus 6  General] slothdabski:
Based on posts on xda nexus 6p forum, it looks like elemental X Dev preview 5 kernel works with official N update. So we may be able to get by with DP5 kernels until they are officially updated!
[Nexus 6  General] blanco2701:
Not really.... for the last few months all factory images and OTAs have been posted at the same time.

I'm just practicing my patience lol
[Nexus 6  General] aroy97:
They're probably uploading the largest image sizes first hence why the pixel c, Nexus player, and Nexus 9 have already received it. Nexus 6 will most likely be last if they use this logic
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
I just spoke with a Google rep over live chat and asked about the factory image being posted for the Shamu. Well...... Like all live chat reps do, they beat around the bush like crazy, tell you modified Android can't be supported because they can't guarantee stability (even though this wasn't the topic at all!) And then told me the update will come as OTA (which we already knew!) And then after asking the same question enough times, he gives me a link to the factory images (which again, we all know about!) So I just ended the chat. No answers to be had lol
[Nexus 6  General] VeryCrushed:
That's on mk monthly security patches though, this is a full new version of Android so I'm basing it off the last major release (Marshmallow)
[Nexus 6  General] blanco2701:
Well, can't argue with that one!
[Nexus 6  General] admax99:
Guys a faster way to get the update.. just enroll for beta via the site and u will the full update as OTA
[Nexus 6  General] VeryCrushed:
Too bad my Nexus 6 refuses to show up in ADM or the beta site....
[Nexus 6  General] SynisterWolf:
This doesn't work for all nexus. Only working on the 5x and 6p AFAIK.

I dont think we will see factory img till they start to push out the OTA and i have a feeling the OTA wont go out till next week. but i hope i am wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
Android 7.0 Nougat is being uploaded to AOSP right now http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/23/android-7-0-nougat-is-being-uploaded-to-aosp-right-now/ …
[Nexus 6  General] najoor:
I don't think we can say "a certain other manufacturer is able to get these out on the same day to all their devices". For example, Samsung only releases radio updates for the unlocked/international versions of its Galaxy line. If you buy an ATT Galaxy phone your updates (and the modem which is responsible for the radio) comes from ATT and not Samsung and that is why the carrier/operator (i.e. ATT) has complete control over the radio software. Samsung doesn't release the radio for ATT branded phones.

The case of Nexus phones is an individual case where, as it is set up, Google is responsible for the radio release and not the carriers. The carriers go along very reluctantly. Google releases updates (and radios) for Nexus phones much more frequently than the other phones. This does not give the carriers enough time to test the features that Google adds in every update. Therefore, as you may have noticed, recent releases of updates have been 2 per month; one is the firmware approved by the carriers (normally with an older modem that is tried and tested) and one that is unapproved by carriers with what you could call an experimental radio. Keep in mind that the radio released by Google for a Nexus phone should work for all major carriers and it is obviously 4 times more difficult to have it sigend off by everyone (this is the main reason behind the delay).

Then you may ask, why do the carriers have to do extensive testing on what Google releases. The answer is that Google is a software company. They are well equipped to test the OS kernels or the apps or the bootloader, etc. But the modem is responsible for the physical over the air link. Testing the radio outside of the actual carrier network and inside a lab is meaningless. The more services the carrier offers the more complex this testing becomes. Imagine for example an advanced ATT radio which should work with any ATT Pico/femtocell, should be capable of volte and wifi calling, should be able to hand over the call from wifi to LTE and even GSM when LTE signal disappears, without dropping the call and the user even noticing, and should be able to allow the user to still use other radios during the call (wifi, BT, etc) without interference with the actual call. Note that for example this last one is very dependent on the actual frequency planning that is unique to the carrier: T Mobile band 12 is at 700Mhz and much less susceptible to contamination by 2.4Ghz wifi than Sprint's 2.5Ghz band 41 just by virtue of the frequency separation. Google has nowhere near the capabilities needed to test these with the actual network of a given carrier. And of course if these tests are not properly done users will experience a slew of problems from poor battery life (when the modem tries too hard to latch on to the network) to dropped calls, and all of that will give the carrier, not Google, a bad name.

Sorry if this got too technical but I hope it answered more questions than it created.
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
Preview binaries off course and as you see first custom roms are out. :cool:
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Anyone can hack together.
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
Just substitute oompa loompa with nougat.

[YOUTUBE]Z9obgyYB1IU[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 6  General] cpgeek:
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[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Yeah, no. That would be a step up for Exynos users, but a huge step down for us Nexus users. I don't want a phone almost working, like the hacked together Nexus 5 Nougat.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Hahahahahahahaha this got me.
[Nexus 6  General] md07:
Image factory for 5X already uploaded, still no for 6 and 6P. Maybe today Google do for all.
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Fingers crossed. Im not going to get my hopes up. When it get posted, it gets posted. I'm sure there was a reason that they didn't do them all at once
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
If you paid attention at all, you would have noticed that the only images that had been made official were for devices that only used wifi. Most likely Google won't say anything, but there is discussion that the 4G wasnt working and things needed to be reworked. Personally, I'd rather wait and have that all fixed vs getting it right off the bat and having that issue
[Nexus 6  General] BigDig:
The 5x junk has factory image now...
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Thank you. Was already mentioned:
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
+1 to that last statement! I'd rather it work then have a buggy copy! And fingers crossed as well! We MAY have it by tonight! We'll have to see how this plays out!
[Nexus 6  General] jcsww:
The full image for the Nexus 5X is up now as well. Still nothing for the Nexus 6 or Nexus 6P! )=
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Was already mentioned. But thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] ss12108:
Strange thing...got the OTA for my N9 LTE yesterday morning but the sites still show only the WiFi version posted...keeps me checking my N6 for the update in case the same thing happens.

And yes it was the release version not DP5.
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
I've heard about people getting it. its the same thing for the 6p and the 5x. both had nothing posted, but people were getting the OTA's. its obviously being held up for a reason other than Google is trying to be cruel (yes i know, its hard to imagine google does things for a real reason) and a lot of people (not saying you) are getting very irate over it.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
If I had to guess I would say the issue is with Qualcomm and the new Vulcan stuff. Qualcomm really doesn't want to support it on older chips
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Qualcomm dragging its feet?! impossible!

/s

I actually hadn't even thought of that. It would account for an OTA not even being leaked like the 5x and 6p originally had
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
And I'll bet you're right! Probably had to do some serious work at the software level to have the new api agree with the hardware. I wanna see Vulcan in action! :D
[Nexus 6  General] alryder:
I'm just asking because I honestly don't know, but wouldn't that have already been addressed in one of the preview releases?
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Unfortunately not. The preview releases did not contain the vulkan drivers
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Did not know this actually. Thanks for the info!
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
To be honest I have a feeling that it will end up that these devices don't get the Vulcan stuff and the reason for the delay is Google might have to remove it.

Mind you this is only ideas based on past issues that have come up. We can only wait and see.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Man I hope that's not the case, then we'll be getting updated to Android 6.1.0 technically lol
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Well considering 7.1 is due out some time next week all we can do is wait. To be honest it wouldn't be a big deal as most apps have not started to take advantage of it yet and will most likely be about a year before they do if many do at all
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
Maybe Google is just waiting and just gonna jump us right to 7.1. we can dream right?
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Even this would be good! Wouldn't mind it, still getting Nougat! I'm dwelling on better battery life and better wifi with comcast! Marshmallow borked my wifi and made it slow on my phone ONLY! The dev preview of N fixed this for me!
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
Next week? Not sure where you're getting that info, but it'll be longer than that
[Nexus 6  General] k_taresh:
might take time but nexus 6 will get vulkan api support qualcomm has announced they will be supporting existing all adreno 4xx for vulkan

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...m-announces-vulkan-api-support-adreno-530-gpu
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
I think it was android police that mentioned it. It will be a maintenance update. It is already in the developers console. It is not unheard off.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...maintenance-update-will-probably-android-7-1/
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
I'm already aware of 7.1. What I'm saying is it won't be coming next week. It's going to take longer than that.
[Nexus 6  General] goldflame09:
I think it's gonna be right about the time that the new Nexus phones get released. It's supposed to bring assistant and the new launcher. That's the stuff I'm excited for anyway
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
That doesn't touch the 805 chip that is in the nexus 6 though.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
To be honest I'm not really interested in either of them. I just want the full source so I can remove the new doze options.

We will see. Many of the updates get pushed to aosp but don't get pushed to devices.
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
The reason for the Update delay on our beautiful N6 is definitely not vulkan since Google engineers have already said that Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 won't be given Vulkan support
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Which would mean extra work to remove it from the source code.
[Nexus 6  General] compuw22c:
“We are pleased to have contributed to the definition of Khronos’ new Vulkan API. Qualcomm Technologies will be among the first to ship conformant Vulkan drivers, starting with Snapdragon 820’s embedded Adreno 530 GPU, and subsequently with our Adreno 4xx series GPUs"

Nexus 6 has the Adreno 420...
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
There's no we will see to it. It's not going to be next week. 7.1 is what the new Nexus devices are releasing with. There will be another dev preview followed by 7.1. It's gonna be awhile.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Won't or will get vulkan?
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Yes but it doesn't have the 820.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/07/google-engineer-says-no-vulkan-support-for-the-nexus-9.html

Have a read. The nexus 6 never made the supported devices.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
We will see.
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
You are literally the only person thinking it'll be next week. Every source that is trusted has been saying 1 to 2 months. But, think what you want.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=mesH2rfuO1Y

Try again. Here even he says the next couple of weeks.

Either way it is pointless to me. As I never bother with official releases.
[Nexus 6  General] mexiken:
I remember you saying that same line in one of the DP threads when I told you that Nougat would drop this summer, and you kept insisting it would be Fall....Glad to see not much has changed ????
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Alright this is getting off topic, back to the matter at hand. Truth is, none of us know for sure, and being a little bit off isn't the end of the world! This topic is for discussion not arguments.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Well interesting as we are still waiting for it. And depending on where you live it is already fall.

Many were surprised that it came so early. Even most teams and that is also why they are waiting before updating their roms.
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
Who was surprised though? It was literally laid out on the beta program site that it would drop in August. Granted, 7.1 will be the full version of N. But, like I said earlier, 7.1 will release with the new Nexus devices. Which will be after the LG V20 drops.
[Nexus 6  General] md07:
So, Nexus 6 is not supported Vulcan API, that is the reason Google delayed Update for N6
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
Vulkan has nothing to do with the delay. I've read that there was an issue with baseband in the final build, but that might not be accurate. Vulkan was never planned to be on the 6 at release.
[Nexus 6  General] md07:
So sad. Ive read somewhere that Vulcan is not supported on device have GPU below Adreno 4xx. N6 have GPU 420, even stronger than Qualcomm 808's GPU
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
I honestly don't mind, but then again, I don't game on my 6, and don't plan on using VR on it. I just want the OTA or system images.
[Nexus 6  General] TMG1961:
Same here.
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
Nexus 6 definitely is more than capable of supporting Vulkan, but its Google who's not opting to support N6 with Vulkan drivers not Qualcomm, and I don't know why would they delay ota and Images for N6 considering the d5 and final release are almost identical, and people saying we will get 7.1 in next two weeks are wrong, Google will announce 7.1 with the new nexus devices and they would run 7.1 out of the box and N6 will get 7.1 too since it's part of the Nougat release
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
5x factory images just got posted today..
[Nexus 6  General] daimerion:
The response I got on twitter was to look for it in the coming weeks...

Could just be a generic response though
[Nexus 6  General] vladtdr:
The reason is android uses updates to sell phones. You want the latest update? u got to have the latest hardware... I thought the nexus line was different, but oh well...
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
you know how old the nexus 6 is ?
[Nexus 6  General] vladtdr:
2 years in oct
[Nexus 6  General] Arju:
I think that was a rethorical question as an answer to your prior post. He knows how old it is.

Edit: on an other note. Great to see that the factory image if Nexus 5x is out, the sooner they can get out the images of the newer devices thus faster they can prioritize the Shamu. We should be grateful that they released it earlier than what they use too. We could have received this in October.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
It wouldn't matter if they released it a month ago. We would have still had this thread with the same anxiousness and complaints.
[Nexus 6  General] vladtdr:
Yes, you make fun of iSheeps that whatever apple would do they would still be ok with it and praise it, well you are the same now. I bought a nexus because i was promised updates on time. Nougat released aug 22, it is now aug 26, this is not on time and is not ok so stop saying that we are lucky cause they didn't release the update in October and they did it now, cause i dont feel lucky
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
To be flat out honest I stopped picking on apple users as Android users have gotten just as bad if not worse.

If updates on day one is soo important to you then my best advise would be to make sure you have the newest nexus each year as they will always be first. The nexus 6 is just about at its EOL and is the last in line for the updates.

Just be happy you are not like some sony users that got all the dev previews just for the device to be dropped from getting official update past the DP.
[Nexus 6  General] JNewms:
You really need to quit crying. There is no "late" for an update. The Nexus 6 hasn't received it yet because of an issue with the build. You'll get it soon as it's available. Now, quit whining.
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
im not sure on how to react on this..
[Nexus 6  General] madsurgeon:
I'm happy there's a wait, coz I'm gonna flash and flash as many MM builds as I can before the big switch. See what all I've missed.....
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Meh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth in this thread by more than a few is just disgusting. Waiting for the update is a unproductive use of time. When it drops, it drops.

In the meantime, I'm much more poor for having read this thread in its entirety, so off to find something else to do. Maybe look at my roommate's Galaxy S3 and see if I can bump that up to Android 6.0.1. It's a Straight Talk device so....
[Nexus 6  General] xdafalter:
Well, you could:

1. Kill the beast who dared to say something like this

2. Delete the post

3. Close the thread

4. Ask for a contact who could acquire such an evaluation

Joking aside: to those I offended, my apologies. I know this is really hard on you and it was not fair to inflict even more pain.

As of for me, I'm going to change my IP, now (again) :D
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
lol
[Nexus 6  General] droidstyle:
This post reminds me of my 4yr old for some odd reason.
[Nexus 6  General] :
I stopped waiting for official Android 7.0, flashed back to CyanogenMod 13. At least there are custom Android 7.0 ROMs on their way - I hope there's Vulkan driver in the final release, at least Android 7.0 source code's out already (I downloaded the entire source codes for as an experiment porting it onto crappy HTC Desire 610 - consider it learning experience. It took two hours to sync the whole thing, and it was worth the wait).
[Nexus 6  General] Yasharkhan:
getting really rikuclous now from google and a really crappy job too with such a major release
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
boy, this thread is the poster child for "first world" problems...
[Nexus 6  General] biohaz55:
This thread is...... well it almost defies belief. Your phones worked yesterday, they work today and will probably work tomorrow 7 or not !!!!!

You'd think the end of the world is about to happen in the next few minutes. It will be here when it's here and *****ing about it will make no difference at all to it's arrival so I think a few chill pills would be in order.

I've said my piece so I guess you can start flaming me now :(
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
whats even funnier, is that once google actually releases it, then the whiners will complain that its so basic/boring/featureless/not any better than MM is/was, and start "demanding" some custom roms/features for it...

I say it will be AT LEAST a month, or more, before we see any custom roms with similar features that we already enjoy with MM.
[Nexus 6  General] BungleMX:
well, every update (especially major update) we have the same kind of posts and crying people, so, nothing new jaja

Meanwhile, I have a lot of time to make my backup
[Nexus 6  General] holeindalip:
I don't think it be a month to get most features, nougat is based mostly off of mm anyways
[Nexus 6  General] sage_viper:
Y'all will get it as soon as it releases for ~your device~

In case you hadn't noticed, phone operating systems aren't so easy as putting one big file out that works on every bit of hardware.

Be patient, let them get it right before release. There's probably a big n6 bug they're trying to squash.
[Nexus 6  General] GrayBoltWolf:
My main issue is that they announce a new update and then take 5 days to actually push the update. They should have these ready before announcing an update.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
I don't think there is any particular bug in the way of the N6 release. I think they are just taking on one device at a time. Today they added lg bullhead (Nexus 5x).
[Nexus 6  General] oOflyeyesOo:
I concur, just close this thread. No point to have a bunch of people whining. We will still get it earlier than we got MM last year, people need to go outside, maybe sleep outside for a few days.
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
lets contact [MENTION=6957306]jasondclinton_google[/MENTION]

his device is also a nexus 6 ...
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
Hey guys is eclair out yet:)
[Nexus 6  General] :
I don't think there's very much differences in the bootloaders between Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow and 7.0 Nougat, and some Android 7.0 ports already work just fine on Marshmallow bootloader. I will just wait for the official OS image to be uploaded (which is handy to have for as an emergency recovery if something have gone wrong, and for its bootloader just in case I want to stick with custom Nougat for reals), while waiting for the custom Android 7.0 ports to improve in quality and stability.

I think it may come out next week or so. It won't matter much anymore as I think I will be okay with Marshmallow (CyanogenMod 13), although I kind of hate one thing about Android 6.0's ART is that a few apps take forever to install (Facebook is the worst), while the ART's hybrid JIT compiler in Nougat have certainly sped up things (Facebook only took five minutes on Android 7.0 instead of 15+ minutes on 6.0) - I tried the final Android 7.0 Beta (DP5) just for funsies.
[Nexus 6  General] jasondclinton_google:
We're working on it but I can't reveal any more information than what's already been posted in the official announcement.
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Agreed! Not to sound like a selfish you know what, but we get Nexus devices to have the updates FAST!
[Nexus 6  General] supaet:
this is so stupid, it's not like the 6 haven't been running 5 n preview betas. What exactly is different between the final build and pb5? I could not tell on my 5x. So they could just release a 50 mb ota and just change the build number just like the 5x.
[Nexus 6  General] VeryCrushed:
Im just sticking with DP5, just chill and forget about it and it will be here before you realize it.
[Nexus 6  General] tahoe916:
The image for the 5x is up now...no 6 or 6p yet.
[Nexus 6  General] cell2011:
I'm thinking same I got a N6 used never had beta I put the last one on it from Wugfresh and everything I see online looks like same build. I'm happy with what I have Dp5 rocks imo
[Nexus 6  General] endless_nameless:
I'm just beside myself. We're NEXUS USERS, aren't we entitled to the most bleeding edge software available? Where's my pre-release copy of Android Oreo? This is inconceivably terrible and everything is awful and I just want to die. #thanksgoogle
[Nexus 6  General] JohnnyMontana_:
Wow
[Nexus 6  General] H4X0R46:
Wow this is getting out of hand.
[Nexus 6  General] endless_nameless:
That was kind of my point ????
[Nexus 6  General] smokinjoe2122:
I think that post was sarcasm ^

This whole thread is horribly entertaining. It brings out the best and worst of XDA....
[Nexus 6  General] :
One word; MEH.

Don't forget, Google is pulling the plug on Nexus 6 by October, and it's possible it's cutting their loss and pulling the plug by now. Long story short; be patient. Nougat will be coming. I had to be patient with stupid Verizon (I was on RAZR M, and thankfully I unlocked its bootloader before Verizon fired off another Kit Kat build that patched the bootloader), for a WHOLE year before I could ever taste Kit Kat and Lollipop on the RAZR M. So don't complain, be thankful Google dropped the source code for the Android 7.0 Nougat.