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[Nexus Player General] resinis:
no real changes imo... maybe faster i guess but whatever, mine was always pretty fast

i honestly think they did this only because a nexus player 2 is in the works and they are using us as beta testers for android 7
[Nexus Player General] tamanaco:
It worked on NP running Nougat... Good find!... Thanks
[Nexus Player General] Rtistique:
Quick question (PIP) picture-in-picture did not make it to the final version of Android 7.0? I have the task switcher work, which I love but it would be nice to have that feature.
[Nexus Player General] nikfam:
Is there a known Ethernet connection issue? I have simplink activated for the nexus player HDMI and every time I open TV Ethernet is disconnected! Restart is the only fix
[Nexus Player General] kupony:
I got the update to nougat a few days ago...

I actually feel that the NP slowed down. It feels more sluggish.

I did a number of restarts, cleared the apps cache - but that didn't really help. The colors are more vivid - they almost pop out, which I don't really care about. All in all, I don't think that nougat on NP brought any new advantages or benefits over marshmallow. Everything else is pretty much the same - except the settings menu is now more annoying with smaller icons and the ribbon on the right and more than half the screen of wasted space on the left.
[Nexus Player General] xconwayx:
I am all for rooting everything Android. I just am curious what you use on here that requires root?
[Nexus Player General] raptor170:
Thank u sir, that version of SuperSU worked. Swipe to allow modification on twrp is a pita with the mouse lol. Good to go now tho :)

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For me I use sixaxis app (which now has android TV support), titanium backup, tasker, etc.
[Nexus Player General] Zranz:
I use root for StickMount. It automatically mounts drives in the user space and has support for NTFS file system. Although it cannot be installed directly through Play Store, it can be installed as an external .apk and works fine.
[Nexus Player General] xconwayx:
As a noob towards Tasker what can you all do with it on your NP?
[Nexus Player General] raptor170:
Well with tasker the Sky's the limit. But on the nexus player you could use auto input and tasker to change what your hardware controls do, example, home button to launch Kodi, etc. Or tasker with autovoice to react to any set voice command for whatever your heart desires. Havnt really taken the time to play around with the nexus player and tasker, getting my wheels turning lol
[Nexus Player General] forgotmyothername:
I just flashed 7 so I am factory stock again After seeing most of the apps I have sideloaded in the past worked fine on stock, like Xfinity ToGo, & updating to the newest build, I wanted to go back to stock.

now when I try to sideload Xfinity it gives my a mismatched footer error, I think that it was. Haven't seen that error before, and now wondering is 7 going to require rooting to overcome that error?
[Nexus Player General] thereal_bigjake:
I don't have mine handy but I think I remember a couple settings in developer options for side loaded apps ?
[Nexus Player General] tamanaco:
I just sideloaded the SuperSU 2.78.apk (Stable) on my NP and used it to update the 2.71 binaries to 2.78. All the installed apps that require root continue to have root access.

For those of you using Titanium Backup on your NP... are you able to see the 3 action buttons on the upper right had corner of the top bar? (Landscape or Portrait) I can only see the word "ALL" on the upper left corner of the top bar... nothing on the upper right, so I'm not able to use the app to backup. The same thing is happening with Adway. I can not change the preferences, but the apps works fine as it can modify the /system/etc/hosts file without any problems.
[Nexus Player General] gregfrankenstein:
Ad blocking! I can't use YouTube Adaway until Xposed for Nougat is out, but Adblock Plus is taking care of everything else.
[Nexus Player General] xconwayx:
I tried looking into that. Glad to know it is possible.
[Nexus Player General] warwagon19792:
Anyone else having issues with the ethernet dropping out after the Nexus player sits for a while, with the new 7.0.
[Nexus Player General] doitright:
Does it come back? Or does it stay out?

I am having some debilitating problems with my NP. Since you bring up ethernet, I wonder if that might be related.

Specifically, my problems are mostly in netflix. Every few minutes, the video will stop for about a minute, then resume -- no buffering, just stopped. Occasionally, only the audio resumes. I hadn't considered a connection between that and ethernet, but could be? Although one would expect netflix to go back to buffering if that were the case.
[Nexus Player General] warwagon19792:
If i unplug the ethernet and plug it back in it comes back.
[Nexus Player General] doitright:
That doesn't answer the question. If you leave it alone, does it come back on its own after ANY amount of time?
[Nexus Player General] warwagon19792:
I don't know. I never just leave it alone. Since then i've switched to just using wifi.
[Nexus Player General] treezy26:
Anyone here use sling TV on 7.0? If so, does it work?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cybrdude:
Hey Guys, I updated OTA to Android N from 6.0.1 (Marshmallow). After the upgrade all services crash (all google services including Messenger SMS) and the phone reboots every few minutes.

-Boot-loader is locked.

-No Custom Recovery Image.

-Oddly, entering stock recovery from boot-loader results in "No Command" error message.

Ideas??
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matteventu:
Probably something went wrong in the update process and conflicted with something else.

Anyway: hard reset.

The "no command" screen is just a security screen and it's normal, you need to bypass it to enter to the recovery with a button combination (that now I don't remember, but I never remembered it even though I used to enter in recovery after pressing random buttons combinations lol).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cybrdude:
Thanks dude. No worries.

Hard reset didn't work. Also tried to flash OTA from Recovery..

I was really hoping to avoid the stock ROM.

For now, I unlocked the bootloader, installed Recovery, and then loaded Stock ROM. All is well under Stock ROM.

Will try again tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevemw:
Press power + volume up to get recovery menu.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 318sugarhill:
Was having a similar issue. I'm all stock, unlocked bootloader. Signed for N preview and instantly got the OTA download. It installed and pretty much within a few minutes the bootloops started. couldn't even power down without it rebooting on its own. I got it to power down without turning itself back on through recovery/power down. I let it sit and cool down. Upon reboot.....was doing well, and started to boot loop again. I REALLY did not want to factory reset.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cybrdude:
Thanks dude, but not a newb. Not using my old account, which I should recover.

I had no issue restoring to stock after unlocking bootloader and flashing Recovery. Strange that the OTA via beta is unstable for some and not for others. Even after a reset of OTA, the services and reboot issues continued.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 318sugarhill:
So for me, a factory reset and setting up a brand new phone (no backups of any kind....even from Google) have seem to do the trick. Unfortunate that I lose my wifi password backups. Asking some people for their wifi passwords again is a PIA. Especially the ones who don't know them, and it's a 27 key password from their cable company. Anyone know how to pull just the wifi backups from google?

My thought is one app or setting was causing my problem so I'm slowing adding everything one at a time. PIA really. I don't miss the Froyo days that's for sure.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
What happened to your old account?
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/08/taking-final-wrapper-off-of-nougat.html

Only a matter of time now!
[X Style (Pure) General] ahent:
Yeah, my hope was that since moto was dragging feet on the 6.0.1 and the monthly security updates that we would see Nougat earlier than most, but I then wondered why did they release a May security update at all. So that thought sent my hypothesis that they were working on a Nougat release right out the window.
[X Style (Pure) General] gavsi:
moto pure ?
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
Well, they can begin working on it now. Needed AOSP source.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
They can't with on nougat until Google releases the source code. Motorola/Lenovo has also confirmed security updates will be quarterly vice monthly. They probably have a limited number of software engineers and developers and 6.0.1 honestly didn't really show that it could bring much in additional features to this phone. With nougat, there are reasons to move forward with the release.
[X Style (Pure) General] kevev:
Maybe this will fix the audio stutter with LTE calls on T-Mobile.
[X Style (Pure) General] Awesomeslayerg:
I know this might seem stupid but cant we port the nexus 5x factory android 7 rom?
[X Style (Pure) General] NoNameAtAll:
I wouldn't bank on getting Nougat. Let's not forget how quickly Lenovorola dropped the 2014 Moto X in terms of Marshmallow. I know the unlocked variants eventually got it, but it took awhile.

I've this bad feeling in my gut our phone's support is going to be cut off. It's just like during the days of waiting for the Atrix to get 4.0 only for it to get canned.

Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
[X Style (Pure) General] rjayflo:
http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Just a fluff piece and purely conjecture... No reference to anything concrete like 95% of all articles out there. Fact is, only 16 handsets are absolutely confirmed to get Nougat, everything else is unofficial. And the only Moto on the list is the Nexus 6.

http://android.stackexchange.com/q/139232/146132
[X Style (Pure) General] elite001mm:
I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
[X Style (Pure) General] unkoil:
In the comments section of that article user Tim stated "And your source is…? Also why is the Moto X Pure listed on the bottom of Google’s nougat website. The Moto X style (which is what the pure is called outside the US) is confirmed to have 7.0."
[X Style (Pure) General] lmulli:
You must have a different version of the website to me as I can't see it. I see 5 phones listed, none of them are Motorola.
[X Style (Pure) General] elite001mm:
That's weird. I tried both desktop and mobile and it's there for me both times. Perhaps its a region thing? I'm in Tennessee, US
[X Style (Pure) General] NoNameAtAll:
General Android site. Not specifically Nougat.
[X Style (Pure) General] kcipopnevets:
This thing isn't even a year old. We HAVE to get it. I would hate to have to rely on CM14 to stay current.
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
This is what I see. Nougat is mentioned, it could mean absolutely nothing, but either way it is an interesting find in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvv9nwUTv20
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
I wouldn't say we have to get it, but not offering major update support for a flagship type device up to 18 months after release would be a bad move by Lenovo. It would definitely push me away. I can deal with fewer less frequent security updates as well as bypassing minor ones (6.0.1), but a major one that this device can easily handle is expected.
[X Style (Pure) General] ripin150:
Getting flashbacks to the Atrix 4G's journey to 4.0. What a time to be alive.

This being a new Motorola in ideology, so-to-speak, I'm optimistic, but it doesn't bode super well that they've already directed resources away from security updates. But who knows, maybe they did that to work on bringing 7 up.

Too bad they don't just tell us what's happening.
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
That is something I have always wished for in an OEM. I guess they keep silent not to get hopes up, only to crush them later if something doesn't work out, but some sort of information would be nice. At least tell us it's being worked on, or what is being worked on.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
LOL...I have learned not to expect anything. I think OEMs have all made the decision to guarantee nothing. I remember having the HTC Inspire 4G (DHD cousin) in which HTC posted briefly would get ICS. Yet some time soon after, they retracted and stated it was not getting it (with no explanation really but given the burden Sense with GB put on the system, I was not surprised). However most OEMs lately have been delivering major updates out to 18 months for most of their flagship devices, so I think that is an encouraging thought given the MXPE has not even been out for 12 months.

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I don't think it was just about redirecting resources. Motorola has moved to a vanilla pure Android experience with a few value added software additions. This most likely equates to minimal software engineers needed. OEM companies such as Samsung load there devices with custom everything and sometimes numerous software added. Given the minimalist concept of Moto phones, they would have much less resources to work with. They didn't move away from security updates btw. Rather given limited resources they have, they are releasing security updates quarterly (they did explain this at least). I'm sure this gives their people time to focus on major updates such as nougat but this is just speculation and hope on my part :laugh:
[X Style (Pure) General] QuantumFluxx:
When you are on that site and click on the Moto X, this comes up. A little weird, not to mention that there is an absence of the words 'Pure' and 'Style'. I fail to see why the older Moto X's would be referenced here. Probably just a mistake, as the picture is clearly a Pure. I still don't take this as a confirmation, but I think we'll get it - eventually...
[X Style (Pure) General] ripin150:
When you say "Given their limited resources ... this gives their people time to focus on major updates" I would argue that that is what redirecting resources is. Also, I didn't say they were moving away from security updates. But yeah, we agree it seems like.

Excuse me for being testy, classes start Monday and the Nexus 4 has Nougat before us.
[X Style (Pure) General] JuanMnz93:
If you feel a bit testy, you'd look at this

http://xdaforums.com/jiayu-s3/development/rom-unofficial-aosp-n-jiayu-s3-plus-t3448724

:(
[X Style (Pure) General] lmulli:
Why? It's for a completely different device so what's to test?

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This device has very limited developer support in comparison to the likes of the Nexus range of devices here on XDA. Those communities seem to be full of recognised devs who are able to churn out custom ROMs and kernels whereas this device has but a few. You've only got to look at the lack of any decent custom kernel for this device to see how it differs to any Nexus device.
[X Style (Pure) General] Decends:
If Lenovo did that, Motorola would loose so much business and respect. Especially since the Moto X Pure was Motorola's flagship device last year. To give such minimal support to such a recent flagship is like spitting in the customers face.
[X Style (Pure) General] kevev:
They have already spit in the face of T-Mobile/MetroPCS customers. We have this VoLTE jitter bug since Feb....
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
Lots of features aren't working, but cool to see nonetheless. Hopefully we'll see something for the Moto X soon.

https://www.droidmen.com/android-nougat-moto-g3-moto-g-2015/
[X Style (Pure) General] Decends:
What is this VoLTE bug you speak of? Im currently using my Moto X Pure Edition on Metro PCS and have yet to run into any issues i did not cause myself.
[X Style (Pure) General] kevev:
Congested areas have audio studder on VoLTE.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Well at least you have it. AT&T has not extend VoLTE support for this phone (those switching from Verizon were able to keep it enabled after changing SIM cards). And I haven't heard of any issues with jitter using Verizon from those using the network. It may or may not be an issue with the phone. It could be a T-MOBILE network thing.
[X Style (Pure) General] redemptionx11:
I'm also in TN. But the Moto X I'm seeing on there is a 5.2" AMOLED display device...
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
Following the link takes you to Motorola's Moto Maker page for the MXPE though. Strange.
[X Style (Pure) General] redemptionx11:
That's not what showed up when I went there. It just said Moto X and gave the basic specs, which weren't the Pure specs.
[X Style (Pure) General] lmulli:
I can't see it happening any time soon as there are no what I would call hardcore devs working on this device. You know it's a poorly supported device when there isn't even a decent kernel in existence for it.
[X Style (Pure) General] waldoelx7241:
The pure is perfectly capable of running a stock android 7.0 OS. This is why I will never ditch iphone to use an android as a primary device
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Of course it is capable. But I don't understand your comparison to the iPhone. For those who want the updates as they roll out on Android, Nexus phones fit the bill. They will get the get the updates in a timely manner just like an iPhone. Your argument of sticking with iPhone over the update issue is therefore null. Buy a Nexus and you get updates.
[X Style (Pure) General] waldoelx7241:
I meant it as we don't even know for sure if the pure will or wont get the update and I find that annoying bEcause the pure is pretty much stock android so it wouldn't be too much effort to update it
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
While many of us agree with you, it is the"risk" of buying an android device that is not a Nexus.
[X Style (Pure) General] deerhurst:
Not really. But smart and don't buy a Samsung and you should have plenty of factory support. If you install a custom recovery your support may never end. My Asus Transformer TF101 is running 6.0.1 when Asus ended support with 4.0. Good devs keep a device alive!
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
LOL. I was referring to official support from the manufacturer. Pretty much after 18 months, most people will have to rely on custom ROMS for future support, which I do. I personally dislike the overall look and feel of the Samsung Android experience, let alone their seemingly hard stance against rooting, so I can't see myself during over money to buy one, especially when there are better performance suited to dollar phones out there.
[X Style (Pure) General] kindleaire:
Frankly, I don't trust Lenovo and I hate holding my breath just to see if they'll respect me as a customer/user. The Camera2/3 fiasco has already left a bitter taste in my mouth. I reckon we'll get it, but who knows how soon. Lenovo could yet earn my trust, but I'm cynical.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
And I think you have a right to be. I'll admit I'm worried myself as Lenovo is yet to prove themselves. I have hopes that they don't ruin the Moto line as it has finally started proving itself as a serious price conscious contender in the smartphone market among the big names.
[X Style (Pure) General] DrunkUncas:
The linked articles might as well have been written by kids at a "special" junior high school.

Although the author of the first one was smart enough not to put his name on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] tony1208:
I do not understand the rush for N, MM is running fine on our Pure device.
[X Style (Pure) General] chrisund123:
It would probably run Gingerbread just "fine", doesn't mean that the users will stop hankering after up to date software though.
[X Style (Pure) General] deadwilder:
what is the situation with N here? do we have all needed blobs for our moto? is there any dev interested in compiling aosp?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No, we don't have everything, otherwise we would be running Nougat already.
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
Interesting, 23 hours ago on Motorola github kernel-msm:

Clark push for marshmallow 6.0.1

https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-MPH24.107-58
[X Style (Pure) General] gavsi:
but no update !!:p
[X Style (Pure) General] Silarn:
I actually did switch from Verizon, but it still ended up disabled for me, sadly.
[X Style (Pure) General] ronj75:
i'm seriously hoping lenovo doesn't completely fark this update.. just push a damn uncrippled version with camera2/3 and tell tmobile to enable the damn wifi calling feature lol.
[X Style (Pure) General] Mohannad-K:
GOOGLE

Google Nexus 6

Google Nexus 5X

Google Nexus 6P

Google Nexus 9

Google Nexus Player

Google Pixel C

General Mobile 4G (Android One)

SAMSUNG

Samsung Galaxy S6

Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus

Samsung Galaxy S7

Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge

Samsung Galaxy Note 5

Samsung Galaxy S7 Active

Samsung Galaxy Note 7

Samsung Galaxy J3

LG

LG V20

LG G5

LG V10

LG G4

HTC

HTC 10

HTC One A9

HTC One M9

MOTOROLA

Moto Z Droid

Moto Z Force Droid

Moto G4

Moto G4 Plus

Moto G4 Play

ZTE

ZTE Axon 7

ZTE ZMax Pro

ZTE Axon Elite

ZTE Axon Pro

ZTE Axon Max

ZTE Axon

ZTE ZMax 2

ZTE Blade V7

ONEPLUS

OnePlus 3

OnePlus X

OnePlus 2

OnePlus 1

SONY

Sony Xperia Z3+

Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet

Sony Xperia Z5

Sony Xperia Z5 Compact

Sony Xperia Z5 Premium

Sony Xperia X

Sony Xperia XA

Sony Xperia XA Ultra

Sony Xperia X Performance

BLACKBERRY

BlackBerry Priv

BlackBerry DTEK50

ALCATEL

Alcatel Idol 4S

Alcatel Idol 4

Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3

HUAWEI

Huawei Mate 8

Huawei Mate S

Huawei Honor 5X

Huawei Honor 5C

Huawei Honor GX8 (G8)

Huawei Honor V8

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Huawei P9

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Huawei P8

ASUS

Asus ZenFone 3 Laser

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Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra

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Asus ZenFone 2

Asus ZenFone 2 Laser

Asus ZenFone Selfie
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Source?
[X Style (Pure) General] Sagar_1401:
Well i think moto g4 has got (octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 processor)

Which is good enough

But

Moto X Style has got (hexa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 MSM8992 processor)

Both are equal but 808 is better than 617 so yeah

Stop fooling others and creating rumours...

Moto Is going to get Android N becaus it has better 800 processor which is nexus 5 processor and 800 doesn't support api 24 whereas 808 do support api 24

??

So the final news is Moto X style gets android N but i believe by December.....
[X Style (Pure) General] quakeaz:
It is primarily that the 808 supports OpenGL ES 3.1 I'm sure the Pure/Style will get it, just don't know when. Hopefully Moto releases a statement soon and ends all this speculation.