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[Nexus 5X General] PiousInquisitor:
The Bluetooth battery drain is due to a few poorly coded apps. These apps use bt to help acquire a GPS location. The app that was giving me issues was Gas Buddy. I'll look up the article I read that mentions a few of the other ones.
[Nexus 5X General] xbing6:
cool
[Nexus 5X General] Zach1928:
Interesting, it always seems like android never gets an love like iOS. Anyway, I turned off BT & scanning for both WiFi and BT and have noticed some improvements.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
#BruceLee: Winning is fighting without fighting (MT).

#Google: #AndroidNougat is upgrading without upgrading.
[Nexus 5X General] rgerrans:
I was having terrible battery life (~14 hours under normal use) due to constant wake locks keeping my Awake bar solid. I rebooted into recovery and cleared the system cache last night and now am running much better (8 hours in and still have 72% of my battery and projected 20 hrs left). Ran a Wakelock Detector and it was definitely something in the core OS, not a 3rd party app.
[Nexus 5X General] ABSathe:
Hey guys

So finally I updated to nougat through beta :p

And now the thing is cabinet isn't working :confused:

Can anybody suggest me a FREE file manager for my Nexus 5x .. and yeah the fingerprint issue I mentioned earlier is also present . Can anybody help me ?
[Nexus 5X General] VOLTAGEROCK:
I never had a developer preview and went straight from M to N. Unrooted and going on one week now since the update. East coast US.

One thing that was mentioned while reading Nougat features was about the camera and that turning the phone like a 'screwdriver' as they put it is supposed to swap the back to the front camera and vice versa.

Is this just a made up feature?

Another thing, the only time I'm having problems is when my device screen times out while on split screen, I have to reboot sometimes because I can't get the screen to turn back on. Like I said, only split screen does this.

Sent using my 5X on XDA
[Nexus 5X General] imarcel99:
No more battery percentage toggle after the update? Because it's gone
[Nexus 5X General] PiousInquisitor:
Look harder.

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[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
I wasn't aware about the camera gesture but I just tried and it works for me. Gotta quickly flip it twice.

I haven't used split screen. I just can't find a use case for it so I can't replicate that bug. I haven't been able to get 7.0 to freeze on me with any consistency except for in Root Explorer.
[Nexus 5X General] VOLTAGEROCK:
So with the camera upright in portrait mode, and it opens with the rear camera as the default and you're staring at the screen, which direction are you turning the phone?

I've tried turning it right left while keeping the phone vertical quickly with no luck.

I've tried rotating the phone so the top center of the phone goes to 3 o'clock, then quickly to 9 o'clock.

What do you mean by flipping? And are you using the stock camera?

Sent using my 5X on XDA
[Nexus 5X General] PiousInquisitor:
It's the same gesture Motorola used to open the camera on the Moto X and now Moto Z. YouTube it if you need to. 'Moto X camera launch' should bring something useful up.
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
I am turning it right to left while holding it in portrait, basically doing a 90° angle then back to 0 then 90° and once more back to 0. Don't flip 180° so you see the back of the phone, just to the side where the volume panel (right to left) or non volume panel side (left to right) is facing you. I can get this to reliably work if I flip it twice to a 90° angle.

Yes, stock official 7.0 camera.

Edited: added "0 to 90° to 0 to 90° to 0" in the post
[Nexus 5X General] fragfutter1701:
Fliplp around the vertical (longest) axis.
[Nexus 5X General] PiousInquisitor:
Changing the camera with a gesture is serious business. So serious it takes three people to explain it. I swear Droid Life did a video on it like every other miner whatever that is ever mentioned by whoever.
[Nexus 5X General] VOLTAGEROCK:
If it weren't for your help, guys, I wouldn't have gotten it.

Apparently, I wasn't turning the phone quick enough. I didn't realize how fast it needs to be done in order to swap cam view.

Thanks again.

Sent using my 5X on XDA
[Nexus 5X General] coolrad007:
wen is the android n indian update? is it already released?
[Nexus 5X General] The_Jacoz:
Hello folks!

Twitter user LlabTooFeR posted:

also Pixel and Pixel L will have 7.1 installed! mmm would really like to see what is fixed
[Nexus 5X General] ABSathe:
It's already released

If you haven't recieved it yet .. enroll into beta and unenroll when your device is upgraded

I've upgraded my device through beta only

Hit thanks if this helps
[Nexus 5X General] coolrad007:
i dont need the beta version, waiting for the non beta version. wen is it going to b released?
[Nexus 5X General] ABSathe:
You'll get public release version only .. NRD90M build number .. which means you get public release version only
[Nexus 5X General] coolrad007:
i didnt understand wat do u mean by that? can u explain it? wen is the public version going to b released?
[Nexus 5X General] Nightshadow931:
If you enroll to beta, you'll get official 7.0, not beta. Doesn't matter it says 'beta'.
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Basically if you are enrolled in the beta. Google let you skip the standard and random rollout queue (no matter your unknown and random position is) and get directly and instantly the OTA from android M to Android Nougat final version.

Google never rush an update like this. They always release the update to a small portion of devices at first. But now they also release the update to anyone enrolled as beta tester.

I really like this new way to update.

Sent from my Nexus 5X
[Nexus 5X General] VOLTAGEROCK:
Back to this topic!

I think this feature is horrible. My right thumb is literally right on the swap camera icon when holding my device!

Why the f would I want to rotate the thing snapping my wrist with a 50/50 chance of it even working in the first place when I can simply tap the icon?

Weird news bears.

Sent using my 5X on XDA
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
To show off I guess. LOL. I would rather it be like the Moto X to turn on the camera like it was originally intended for a while back.
[Nexus 5X General] VOLTAGEROCK:
That would definitely be better.

I have Nova launcher prime so I take advantage of every gesture available.

One of which is setting the camera app to open when swiping up with one finger on any launcher page. I don't even use the double tap of the power button as this gesture is so easy.

Sent using my 5X on XDA
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
But with the screen off, double tap power is still the quickest way.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
By far.
[Nexus 5X General] Lollolollo84:
Is possible to update my nexus 5x (with root and xposed) from MTC19Z to NRD90M using factory images without losing my data ???
[Nexus 5X General] Psychofrantics:
Possible: May be , may be not

Recommended : Absolutely not.

Clean flash is always recommended between different android versions. Plus exposed is also not out for Nougat
[Nexus 5X General] kairopavan:
Hi guys,

I bought a nexus 5x last week here in Brazil, but I still waiting for the Android N.

Does anybody knows how much time I need to wait to get de upgrade via OTA?

This delay is normal?

I dont want to subscribe the Android Beta Program.
[Nexus 5X General] Lollolollo84:
OK! so whats the best way for update my n5x (with root and xposed) to android 7.0.0 (NRD90M) ?
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
OTAs are randomized so nobody will ever know the timetable.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
As mentioned earlier, either wait your turn which is determined randomly and can take 3-4 weeks or can happen in the next 5 minutes, or download it manually, either FULL OTA (doesn't require unlocked bootloader and doesn't erase user data), factory image (requires unlocked bootloader, which if you haven't done so already means factory reset, can be made not to reset data, or sign up for beta, immediately get your OTA, then sign out of the beta.

You may need ability to connect 5x to PC depending on what your setup is currently.

IMO from the way you are wording things, you are probably best off signing up for beta, downloading the OTA, then sign out of the beta.

If you do it right now, this will get you the production Android N, and won't result in data reset when you sign out.

If you wait around thinking about it and the next beta becomes available, then you won't have the production N and you'll get your data reset when you sign out.

Otherwise just wait your turn, it is normal.
[Nexus 5X General] Zach1928:
Is it still working alright? I was in the car for about 7hrs yesterday so the phone was idle mostly, Android OS was around 860mbs of RAM usage and used 12% of battery compared to 3% for the screen. A reboot last night seemed to temporarily fix it, but again now Android OS is pushing 660mbs and counting and it's been sitting most of the morning. I really don't want to wipe the whole phone..
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
New factory image for NRD90S is live!

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[Nexus 5X General] Psychofrantics:
Factory images for September are out.

Here is the link

NRD90S

https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/bullhead-nrd90s-factory-d6bf1f56.zip

Edit: Late as always. On a side note, none for Nexus 6P. May be we are lucky
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
I'm starting to wonder if Google is intentionally waiting for the next Nexus reveal to intro something specific to the 6P as well as the next (not) Nexus devices
[Nexus 5X General] Psychofrantics:
But Nexus 6 also didnt get it yet. So may be there are some issues which are highly unlikely though
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
Very true. I just noticed there is a new 6.0.1 MTC20K OTA image posted in addition to the NRD90S OTA image (not factory image). Wonder what that's about?

Edit: actually there's a MTC20K factory image too

Edit #2: Both Nexus 9 and 6 received new 6.0.1 factory images. Maybe 6P is due next for another 6.0.1 image?
[Nexus 5X General] Midomad:
After all it was a good decision to go with a 5x over a 6p [emoji12]
[Nexus 5X General] RusherDude:
2 new factory images:

One 7.0 - NRD20S

One 6.0.1 - MTC20K

Why a 6.0.1 OTA too? this doesn't sound good, it's like they halted upgrade to 7.0 and want 6.0.1 people to update to september patch BUT NOT TO 7.0.

Really creepy, this added to the N6 case (new 6.0.1 build, no 7.0 on sight), and 6P (new 7.0 AND 6.0.1 builds but no factory images or otas for 7.0!!), tells me something is very wrong with 7.0.

OTAs on https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/ota
[Nexus 5X General] tember1214:
Google 404 error when clicking on ota download!! Anyone else?
[Nexus 5X General] ingber:
Yes, it seems that https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/bullhead-ota-nrd90s-11bca8c7.zip is a broken link.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
I am guessing they are just being flexible and prioritizing security over uniformity.

You shouldn't be penalized for not wanting to upgrade to 7.0 right away by being denied security updates, especially since 7.0 was released so close to a traditional monthly security update date.

I don't have any insider info, but I don't think the dual-track security updates are going to go on for too long, maybe this is the only one.

Keep in mind when the first 4 digits of the version don't change, there are almost always nothing other than security fixes. Apps are same versions, features are the same, no bugs are fixed unless they are really really critical or come piggybacked as the result of a security fix. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that is what happens most of the time.
[Nexus 5X General] nesoor1230:
Do you think we should install this NRD90s ? Will be there any difference from Nrd90m ? Thanks
[Nexus 5X General] Psychofrantics:
Helll NO!!!

Dont do it. It will brick your phone and convert it into an expensive paperweight. :(

Come on Man. You should instal it.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
If history serves, with the 1st 4 digits being the same, there will be very little if any functional change, but mainly security fixes, which are good to get, but if you weren't affected by the security issues, wouldn't result in any noticeable difference for your daily usage. Still good to get to have a safer system but you need to balance against effort of manually downloading vs just waiting for update to happen on its own.
[Nexus 5X General] RusherDude:
Be careful, the version tag gives 0 info about the current changes. The first letter is the android version (M), but from there everything is chaos: second letter was about type of version (R from release or others), the next 3 chars are the date from the build and the last letter relates to the branch used.

Example, in this case:

NRD90M - First 7.0

NRD90S - New 7.0

N -> Nougat

R -> Release

D90 -> A date (should change and doesn't)

M / S -> Branch used

If code was modified, the third to fifth chars should change since the compilation date changed, but they are the same and only the last char (the branch tag) changes. It has no sense and its pure chaos. Google is terrible at versioning.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
I am not going based on version and deriving changes. I am observing changes and going back to version numbers and practices.

I do diffs on the drivers and firmware and look at the version of apps included with the releases because there is a touchscreen firmware bug I am monitoring that google has yet to fix and I have scripts that do diffs for changes.

The security releases have in general been very stable releases because they very infrequently include functionality changes only limited security fixes.

That's my experience. Yours may be different.
[Nexus 5X General] RusherDude:
Then we were talking about different things, I though you meant that by the release version code you guessed what kind of changes it got. :good:
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
Did we get to a zip for last month's NRD90M factory image? Just noticed I get a zip instead of the typical .tgz for September's 7.0 factory image. Just curious.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
They switched everything to zip and SHA256.

The old filenames that used SHA1 are still there, but any new factory images use SHA256 in the file naming format. Also they went back and repackaged the old releases with SHA256 filenames and zip files so they can be retrieved that way also.
[Nexus 5X General] dml1851:
I don't get why it's another MM version with September security patch (ending in ...20K), I thought once there's a new version MM development should become deprecated

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[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
It seems they are being nice and not forcing you to upgrade to 7.0 just to get security patch. Probably not a long term situation. I would guess related to 7.0 dropping so close to a monthly scheduled security patch and not everybody upgrading immediately.
[Nexus 5X General] kirkgbr:
Can't find an answer by searching so...

I don't understand the difference between OTA and Factory. I thought I did but apparently I'm missing something. My understanding was that OTA are basically just patches and should be considerably smaller in overall size so it can easily delivered Over The Air. However, comparing file sizes for the latest Security release of N both factory and OTA shows this:

1243254222 bullhead-nrd90s-factory-d6bf1f56.zip
1228413720 bullhead-ota-nrd90s-11bca8c7.zip

Not much of a difference there. Anyone able to explain?
[Nexus 5X General] Zach1928:
Has anyone else noticed that the encryption screen never comes up when you reboot the phone or is it just my device?
[Nexus 5X General] crian:
There is a new option in Android N to switch secure boot on and off.
[Nexus 5X General] Jonathan_m84:
Where can we find this? Or is it activated when you reboot iso power off power on?
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
You are comparing factory image to FULL OTA from factory image site. Those both contain the full images so will be very similar in size. Neither depend on you being on a specific version prior to install.

The differential OTA your phone downloads over the air is something like 50MB (though it can be less or more in size depending on number of changes) This depends on you being currently using a specific version, so they have multiple different versions of the differential OTA for different upgrade vectors.

In the end, an OTA is just a delivery format. It doesn't in and of itself control file sizes.
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
There are two types of OTAs that you are referring to. Very basic summary ensues...

A) incremental OTAs. Generally smaller in size and only update between specific firmware (i.e. A to B, or A to C, or B to C, etc). These are only delivered over the air, through Android. These are patches, usually <700 MBs.

B) Full OTA image. AKA the OTA images that Google now provides alongside the factory image. These will install over any firmware already on the device. These are 1+ GB in size. Similar to a factory image in that this installs over all older firmware available. These are larger because they overwrite and update every partition, and need the additional files to unpack and "force patch" all partitions to its contents' OS. It's contents are not to be unzipped and installed one by one by the user.

Factory images are only hosted on the Nexus image website. Traditionally, these can be user installed with opening the initial file or without via the flash-all script included in the download. If opened, single partitions can be user installed whether that's bootloader, radio, cache, system, vendor, or boot. These can also be used to downgrade or upgrade anytime by the user. This is the only file with all three capabilities. Both OTAs must be installed as a whole.

Full OTA images and factory images are similar in function and size.
[Nexus 5X General] kirkgbr:
Great explanations [MENTION=1299673]sfhub[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3576831]SlimSnoopOS[/MENTION]. Thanks!!
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
I know you know all this, just for clarification.

For the monthly security patches they have been averaging around 50MB.

From Google they are only delivered over the air, but folks have captured the URLs and manually downloaded and installed incremental OTAs, but it is a pain because there are many permutations, so often you just get the latest previous version to current version differential OTA posted. One could download either the incremental or the full OTA manually and install but the full is a simpler download because you don't have to wait for someone who has received an incremental update to post the URL.
[Nexus 5X General] Zach1928:
Where is that? I checked the developer settings and there is nothing
[Nexus 5X General] duy_ng:
Is there a stages roll out for security patches, too? Because currently I am still from August 5th
[Nexus 5X General] manpildo:
Major updates are supported for 2 years since release, minor security updates are supported for 3 years.
[Nexus 5X General] ABSathe:
Hey one doubt .. if I enable direct boot will I still recieve OTA and install it successfully in my device ?

Thanks

:D
[Nexus 5X General] pgoelz:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is another very important distinction between flashing a "factory image" and an "OTA image".

Flashing a "factory image" will erase everything on the phone including user data. Flashing (actually, ADB side loading?) an OTA will not.

Paul
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
Yes. You could manually install it however using ADB sideload or fastboot.

Yes, nothing changes in that regard.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
It doesn't have to do a wipe, but by default it does.

If you don't want the factory image to do a wipe, edit the batch file and remove the -w flag. Alternatively flash just the individual images you need.
[Nexus 5X General] spicemaster:
why there are no 7.0 based custom roms yet?
[Nexus 5X General] neinfricatu:
Do you guys have lag in the share menu? For example, when i am sharing a link from a reddit app, i use sync or relay, the direct share menu sometimes takes 3 seconds to appear. In marshmallow was very fast.
[Nexus 5X General] samaritan16:
The September noughat release also has the same irritating Android OS battery drain issue..Flashed latest noughat (full adb factory wipe) to see if the situation improved, but no.. the battery drains within 12 hours mainly due to android os.. Something not right with the update.. So re flashed to latest MM image with September patch and the device is back to normal!
[Nexus 5X General] ABSathe:
Because cm14 source isn't properly released (I know there are unofficial ports too ..but it is still in staging mode .. features are getting added )

Since most of the roms are based on cm .. (like resurrection remix ) .. we are unable to see custom Roms for Nougat

And those Roms which are based on aosp source .. don't have some of their features running properly .. so no chance for aosp based Roms (like chroma I guess .. not sure )

But .. we'll see them soon (next 2 weeks maybe ?):good:
[Nexus 5X General] neinfricatu:
Pure nexus based on aosp is very close to be released.

https://plus.google.com/+NathanBenis/posts/21sRasA8Abj
[Nexus 5X General] :
Can't wait for PN and others to start to drop. N is pure awesomeness!!! :cowboy:
[Nexus 5X General] kirkgbr:
Maybe an app not tuned for N? Reason I say that, I just flash Sept N patch and I still have 81% battery after 20 hours.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah it can take a couple seconds for direct share to show up. Doesn't seem slower or faster than it was for me with Marshmallow.
[Nexus 5X General] samaritan16:
Thanks, but I actually checked it barebones for a day (and even uninstalled the google bloat).. :confused:

This was after a deep wipe of the sd card (internal storage) using adb commands with the factory image..
[Nexus 5X General] neinfricatu:
Never had any lag in marshmallow with direct share. I have a friend with 6p and it has the same lag.

Anyway, the problem will likely be solved in future updates.
[Nexus 5X General] Danielf85:
Hello.

Do any of you have already received the OTA NDR90R? An hour ago I got an update although it is not in the system google images only in Pixel C.
[Nexus 5X General] wash23:
Got the OTA, (approx. 50 MB), yesterday. Was rooted with ElementalX. Used FlashFire Pro to install. Maintained root and recovery with no issues.
[Nexus 5X General] t1nk:
Yeah I got it today also NDR90R
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
I got NRD90S ota this evening
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Quite a few folks seem to be getting N OTA's. Not me - sitting on M MTC20F for about two weeks. I wonder if the reason I'm not getting N is because I have a 16GB phone. Anyone with a 16GB N5X getting the N OTA?
[Nexus 5X General] t1nk:
I got a 16 GB and got the update
[Nexus 5X General] rgerrans:
Glad it isn't just me. I also did a full adb factory wipe flash to see if that would fix it. It made it a little better but still having to do afternoon top-off's to keep from being dead by early evening. Also noticing the drain seems to accelerate the lower the battery gets (some is probably more usage at the end of the day but still seems pretty noticeable). Hopefully 7.1 will fix it next month.
[Nexus 5X General] chris.k00:
My battery also drains mutch faster then with Marshmallow. But a faster device isnt the reason for this worse battery. The device is mutch slower and has mutch more Problems with Animations! I dont like this Update.
[Nexus 5X General] trell959:
I had issues with drain when I updated OTA. Did a clean flash via fastboot and I've had zero issues with lag or battery.
[Nexus 5X General] Kikatdroid:
I have Android Nougat stock and rooted , how to update? I now notice a Google and I can not do anything ...

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5X en utilisant Tapatalk
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
After complaining a lot about not getting the N OTA, eg, above, and on other forums, I just now received a notice that I have an Android N update available. 1171.5 MB (!)