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[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
I've the same experience, but an additional argument.

5.x screens have a resolution of 1920 x1080.

Most apps are optimized for this resolution.

The 2560 x 1440 of the N6 is hardly or not used.
[Nexus 6  General] ronaldheld:
After a 6" screen and 5.7 before that 5" will seem too small.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
I looked at my friend's Note 7 and it will likely be the case for the HTC based on renderings. The screen dimension says 5.5", my friend said his Note 7 is 5.5" yet when we put our phone next to each other they are virtually the same size, his is just lighter and slightly more slender. The length is virtually the same with heavy bezels and less screen size. There are aspects I do like of having the large Nexus 6, but I have to be practical. My old Samsung S4 was a 5" and it was adequate although does seem small in comparison now.

Women typically throw their phone in their purse so size isn't an issue.

I have a trip to Las Vegas later on this year and I may switch to my S4 for that weekend since it is smaller. I don't have any damage to my Nexus, and I'd hate for it to occur do to mishandling under the influence (MUI)
[Nexus 6  General] GarbageC0llect0r:
Why don't they make a 1080p device with a 6" screen? That would be better for battery life and there is not much difference between the two resolutions (if you do not use VR). We mostly use 1080p screens on computers nowadays, so why a screen that is much more little must have a bigger resolution?
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
You have a good point. It is also a personal choice. For portability I prefer a smaller phone.

About 2 years ago I bought the N6 because of the resolution 2560 x 1440 pixels. I expected a.o. more columns and rows on the home screen.

But I was disappointed. Google set the default DPI to 560. Giant icons and an interface with a white background.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
The resolution doesn't dictate the power consumption, the screen AREA does.

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Its actually 2560x720 because they cheat. That's AMOLED for you.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
More disappointed. And it's worse. I made a webpage that shows the screen size in pixels.

In Chrome the value of 'innerHtml' is 600.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
Don't forget that Android likes to use something they call "display independent pixels". Essentially, this automatically scales everything up to the physical dimensions that they would appear as on the screen of an HTC Dream.
[Nexus 6  General] peekie:
if i buy a new nexus after my nexus 6 it will probably be the 6p , was not really planning to switch but the lack of updates ( still have july's patch ) and still waiting for 7.0 dont make owning the nexus 6 a must have phone anymore which is sad as it is a nice big beast only left behind by google.
[Nexus 6  General] Pkt_Lnt:
I agree, but on updates, the 6P does not have Nougat yet either.

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[Nexus 6  General] peekie:
only the ota on the 6p which looks cool
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
Why not download/flash the August update instead of waiting for an OTA? Fastboot isn't hard to set up
[Nexus 6  General] Philip:
And NRT is even easier!
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
Toolkits are usually not recommended. I've read horror stories of them causing permanent bricks.
[Nexus 6  General] Philip:
Given that a toolkit just wraps a user friendly interface around adb/fastboot/whatever, it's very unlikely that it would be the real cause of bricking a handset. The likelihood of somebody bricking their phone by manually issuing the wrong command has got to be significantly higher than doing it through a toolkit like NRT.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
I wait. Now my N6 is working well no issues.

I bet there will be many questions here when Nougat final is released for the N6.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
Fastboot doesn't allow you to use the wrong commands. For example, if you say "fastboot flash system boot.img" it will give you an error rather than flashing the kernel to the system partition. It only recognizes a very small amount of commands and if you don't enter them correctly, spell them wrong, try to flash things to the wrong partitions, try to use Linux/Windows commands, etc it just will give you an error. It's pretty much idiot proof.

The hardest part about fastboot is learning the commands, but after flashing two or three factory images they become engraved in your memory. I'll admit that I had to refer to a guide the first few times I used fastboot, but now it's second nature.

ADB on the other hand can screw up your device if you try to pull or push something from or to the wrong place, but you don't need to use ADB to install a factory image.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Toolkits are dangerous because they give the false security that the brave flasher actually knows what he/she is doing. When usually it's the contrary.

When Marshmallow came out people started rooting with NRT which softbricked their phones with the red triangle, and then everybody started a new thread here in panic. Also people used to lock their devices after flashing which was fatal, if they didn't check it if it booted at all. Locking with a click of a button is too easy, IMHO.
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Yes, and when Nougat is released for the N6 it happens again.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
Been using a toolkit for ages without any issues. If you don't want to, that's fine. I just prefer point and click. Besides, I could never get the command line thing to work even after hours of trying. And I'm VERY computer literate. (had a computer repair business and know linux very well) I decided I wanted to have a life beyond trying to get my phone set up.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
If it works for you, then that's all that matters, right? I'm not saying toolkits are the work of the devil or people that use them are bad. They're great for people that want a quick and easy way to do things. Heck, I'll admit that I only used WugFresh's toolkit on my Galaxy Nexus and it saved my ass a few times. I also used it on my Nexus 6 for the first few weeks of ownership, until I got a new laptop with Windows 10 that refuses to communicate with my phone no matter what.

The main reason I use fastboot with my Nexus 6 is because:

1. I couldn't get the toolkit working on my desktop PC running Ubuntu

2. Windows 10 recognizes my phone for about 5 seconds, then constantly gives me popups saying that it's been disconnected

3. I feel cool using the terminal and entering fastboot commands (I know, lame reason)

Having a life is overrated. There's nothing better than sitting in front of your computer all night playing with your phone and troubleshooting issues ;)
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
It's no surprise it didn't work on Ubuntu. I've loved the heck out of Ubuntu, and have used it since 2004. But I keep windows around for a reason. For Pinball, and NRT. That's it. For all other computer uses, Ubuntu goes above and beyond what I need.

But for some reason, my windows install would not let me fastboot my N6. I tried for many hours. A few times. Enough is enough. Whether it's my fault, the computer's fault, or whatever, I'm over it. NRT has worked great and I stick with it. And this is coming from someone who's not afraid of the command line. You gotta do whatcha gotta do!
[Nexus 6  General] NLBeev:
Windows 10 - may have updated your drivers automatically.

Uninstall the drivers for fastboot/adb with the device manager and reinstall.

Read this:

http://windowsinstructed.com/disable-automatic-device-driver-download-in-windows-10/
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Since I build my rom, I usually use adb and fastboot built from source, after . build/envsetup.sh so when I want to use it on Windows, I have my virtual Linux with the source again.
[Nexus 6  General] Xdresser:
I will be sticking with my 6 until it dies. I am just too used to a larger screen now.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
It was the same whether I used win 7 or 10. Not worried about it. I just use a toolkit and be done with it. Too many wasted trying to get it to work, and life is too short as it is. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] stinger4321:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ally-aired-commercial-featuring-google-pixel/

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On new nest commercial shows the new pixel.. looks like acceptable bezel in the video

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[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
Looks more like an old iPhone prop vs the new pixel. Not sure why a commercial would use a new Pixel prop rather than a more common iPhone prop. I'm inclined to believe this isn't it
[Nexus 6  General] shayneflashindaily:
I think the new "nexus", is hideous from what I've seen. Boooooo HTC
[Nexus 6  General] stevemw:
If I buy any Google device in 2016 it will be the Huawei 7" tablet. Those HTC bland-assed monstrosities activate my bag reflex.
[Nexus 6  General] Ind33d:
ZTE Axon 7 to the rescue :p Only if it available in deep black/ mint/purple matte color...never interested with shiny gold/silver color
[Nexus 6  General] oOflyeyesOo:
What is everyones view on the LG V20? I like the size and look of it, with pretty good specs, just wish they would have tossed a 821 in it.
[Nexus 6  General] stinger4321:
Whats the infrared looking port thats at the top of the phone right above the screen?
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
Looks like it's a proximity sensor. If you put the phone to your head, it turns off while on a call, then pull it back it turns on etc etc.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
Looks nice, but unfortunately nothing comes close to the feasibility for modding like a Nexus (Pixel............... now apparently.................)

HTC you can custom unlock the bootloader then S-OFF. Something like that......

Samsung....locked bootloader, just janky techniques to get root....

LG...this thing was a total nightmare to root also limited options. I had to root then unroot my brother's LG Flex 2 via this method. It was the worst experience I've had thus far: http://xdaforums.com/g-flex2/development/lg-g-flex-2-ls996-zv6-sprint-5-1-1-t3169212

.....I suppose you can get an unlocked phone, but those work better for GSM and I'm on Sprint so that doesn't work........

Pretty much just get the 6p (for cheaper), wait until next year, or just deal with this.

I was going to just buy this even though it's ugly, however; the price point is allegedly $600+ which is too much for how it looks. I still may consider the 6p.

Tbh, I don't even need a new phone as mine is in very good condition and still working great. Unlike most who got their Nexus when it came out in 2014, I bought mine later in 2015.
[Nexus 6  General] stinger4321:
Why would they stick it there? All others are located up in line where the ear piece is.. that looks funky.. should have capacitive buttons on that huge bottom bezel
[Nexus 6  General] oOflyeyesOo:
I was just thinking that maybe, being the first device to launch with 7.1, that they may make it a bit easier to root. Though the V10 is a horrible example of this.

I may also just grab a 6p to hold me over until next year also, as the prices have been dropping.

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Proximity, or other light sensors. Probably.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
I'd be open to buying a non Nexus device if they were more dev friendly, however; if anything, most phones have been clamping down making it more challenging to modify.......I have Sprint which is CMDA which pretty much rules out unlocked GSM phones.

If the 6p gets around the $300 mark I'd be interested in buying.
[Nexus 6  General] oOflyeyesOo:
They are around the $300 mark for used now, should drop more soon.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
Same here. I'm far from a power user, and tbh, a Nexus 4 would suffice for my needs. So yeah, a Nexus 6 is still a killer phone as far as I'm concerned. I may even wait 2 more years (2018) and get a 2017 phone for cheap.

The only reason a may get a new one next year is because I like new and shiny things, not because I need one.

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Actually, you can find them for $319 new with free shipping.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
I may be the only one here who thinks this, but I don't have a problem with a plastic build phone. The Nexus 6 could be "slightly" slimmer and lighter, but outside of that it is very good IMO. It has slimmer more subtle bezels and front vs. the 6p which has wider bezels. I really don't need a fingerprint scanner and the camera is sufficient for me, although I will concede it could be better. I wouldn't have any issue with the Motorola Nexus 6 re-used with just new hardware.

I'm probably just being old school......but I like the past Nexus model where it sold inexpensive phones with good hardware, no frills at a low price. Now you have to pay up $600+ for the glam whether you want it or not. (I don't care for the frills myself).
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
I too am "old school", and don't need bells and whistles. Give me a decent screen, enough RAM and CPU speed, and I'm happy as a fly on excrement. Oh wait, that's the Nexus 6! (still)

As much as the needless spender in me wants a new phone, I just can't justify it when the N6 still does everything I need and more. I may get a new one a year from now, but not a minute before. My days of paying full price for a phone are over. Plus I have 8 credit cards to pay off....... lord help me.
[Nexus 6  General] canezila:
I am certainly out of the new nexus /pixie race. My n6 is good. And I feel it to be a downgrade to lose the front firing speakers. When I heard the price point of the new phones I was sad for sure. In order to justify spending that I can't have any doubts.... And I do.

Certainly want to be able to play my high resolution audio without USB dac so that is a consideration for my future. ZTE axon 7 has that, root, nought, twrp... And is priced $399. Unlocked bootloader - able. Not a nexus type... But sure might fill the need someday...
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
I would already have considered buying the Axon 7 if the bootloader unlocking was more official, or the HTC 10 if it were bigger. And the new Pixels with exacly the same hardware will be double the price, and sans SD card.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
anybody seen the new leaked pics? those things are iphone lite-hideous looking, giant chin, giant forehead, where is the slick black front panel hallmark of the nexus line? weird dual tone on the back, no ffs, no wireless charging... yikes, I really wanted to upgrade after 2 years, but for that price prbly north of 700 or even 800 for the 128 gb pixel xl, wtf google is thinking

I think I'll ride it out with shamu for one more year or maybe try op3 or axon 7 if they can get some aosp development going, really disappointed how things are turning out
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
I imagine the conversation went something like this:

Google: "We are thinking about taking our popular Nexus phone and doing something to piss the customers off." So far we are going to jack up the price and re-name it 'Pixel',........................."

HTC: "Say no more. I gotchu fam."

(see photos below)
[Nexus 6  General] canezila:
Totally my thoughts!

Like saying, "what have we done in the past that has been successful for this niche? And let's trash it!"
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
Considering that all cellphones now look identical, I'm not sure what you are expecting here? It is a RECTANGLE of GLASS.

Considering that you're looking at leaked WHITE ones, I would assume that this would be on the BLACK version?

And yet since anybody with an ounce of sanity will put it in a protective case like a ballistic, that point is entirely irrelevant.

What the heck is an "ffs"?

You assume.... no proof, of course, and further, this is cheap to add on yourself, as in under $5.
[Nexus 6  General] lordneopt:
I see a car without lamps, hell, let's pay full price and get the car anyway. After all i can add lamps later since they are cheap. It's also ugly due to the guys who design it didn't pay attention, but hell, it's manufactured by my favorite manufacturer so i can pay an overpriced value and i can wrap a skin on the car later to hide it. Cars are all the same but this one is better because it's made by my favorite manufacturer.

Phone related, doesn't have wireless charging? Let's ignore, pay full price and get a retarded mod on the phone to hack it and add a feature. Is the phone ugly? Doesn't mind, i can get a case to hide it. Phones are all the same nowadays, lulz.

I love Google for the Android that Rubin designed and idealized, not for this thing ripped off by Pinchai, he and his idiotic ideas for the Nexus hardware brand plus stagnated software development messed up this new device so much that i don't even have the need to wait for the new release on the 4th like before.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
I assume "ffs" most likely means front facing speakers.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
You are obviously trying (and failing miserably) to make some strange point that nobody can possibly understand.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Yeah, but unfortunately nope. The bottom bezel is one big homogenous rectangular wtf,
[Nexus 6  General] lordneopt:
If you miss the point then you are obviously doing it wrong.

But since i did not quote you and you toke the time to reply then obviously you got the idea.

Now don't bother to reply again.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
dont feed the troll guyz ?
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
You're comparing CARS to PHONES.

Now go away.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...gship-phones-official-the-pixel-and-pixel-xl/

The leaks were pretty accurate actually. The phone looks exactly like an iPhone and the smaller is starting at $649, larger $769.

As I've said before, that's way too expensive. Who out there is pre-ordering this ? LOL
[Nexus 6  General] ryancell:
I think this is one of the worst nexus (google phone now) announcements yet. I'd rather buy a 6p or 5x. I have always loved nexus devices, but this change has not gotten me excited at all. Actually kind of relieved so I don't have the spend $. No interest. Hope the future devices get better and don't look like an iPhone. What were they thinking :-/ Feel like I am reliving the webOS days of the overpriced HP Touchpad. Prices need to be lower to get new adopters. Nexus pricing was the way to go.
[Nexus 6  General] XorZone:
Preorder is up: https://store.google.com/config/pixel_phone

$649.00 for Pixel 32 Gb, $749.00 for 128Gb

$769.00 for Pixel XL 32Gb, $869.00 for 128Gb

:(
[Nexus 6  General] dahawthorne:
For all the talk of "We're committed to hardware" it looks more as if they're committed to pricing themselves out of the market. They certainly won't be tempting me. When my N6 eventually breaks (they all always finally do) I'll go for the OP3 or whatever the current flavour of the month reasonably-priced flagship killer is. The days when I spend N6 money (£549) are long gone, and I'm astonished that Google are going this way. I don't believe that technically-aware Android users are in any way the same as iSheep, willing to pay a huge premium for a name.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
Now that the cat is out of the bag, I'll have to decide on the silver or black 6p. The Huawei has interested me since it's not a mainstream brand in the US here yet. I'm concerned scratches on the graphite.

I'll also say there's a serious problem with the pricing of these phones. Unlike iPhone, and more recently Samsung......this Pixel is not established like the other 2. Even Samsung didn't really make headway until the Galaxy S3....Note 1 and 2 were not big sellers.

I'm not sure if it is appropriate to price these Pixel phones on the same level as iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy and Notes when it is relatively unheard of for most of the population.......it may be on the same level hardware wise, but it is not as established and they may have a hard time commanding the price they are asking for them.
[Nexus 6  General] greencat2:
Those prices are for Verizon customers to justify purchasing the phone on a monthly basis. I suspect it will go on sale but you will need to buy Verizon service which will offset any saving from a sale price.

If this fails - which I think it will - Google should fire who ever came up with this idea.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
Zune, touchpad, Amazon fire phone and pixel will be mentioned in the same breath in the future. Ridiculously priced. And we are actually Android fans panning it. We would rather see Android succeed. Do they actually believe they have any hope in hell of selling these to regular folks at those prices?
[Nexus 6  General] Kendaihou:
1049 CAD not including tax......

Ya Google I'm not going for that..
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
The new phones are a disaster, I can't possibly see why anyone would order these unless you have tons of spare cash. Google won't even promise updates >2 years. The only benefit is unlimited photo/video backup.

There are so many better phones for less money. I won't be getting rid of my N6 for a while it seems.
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
People will possibly buy it closer to the $500 mark or less......I could see that happening, but the last 2 Nexus were large, so either you buy a smaller phone, or pay an extra +$269 more than what you paid for the 6p, to get a large phone again.

If they can't sell it to Android fans, then who exactly are they gunning for ? lol
[Nexus 6  General] ryancell:
Was thinking the same thing. I was a hardcore webOS user and paid retail price for my HP Touchpad, but the average person wouldn't pay that. Thus the firesale was started. I am not a hardcore Nexus user and purchase a Nexus 6 at retail...no more....this pixel's too much. My only worry is being on Project Fi if they one day say you can't use the nexus 6, 5x or 6p if my phone ver breaks. Then I'd need to buy a Pixel to use Fi. My next step may be an upgrade to the 6p if I do upgrade. But until then I'm sticking with my Nexus 6 and then once its old, I'll probably search for custom roms to keep it more current since support will done on updates for it :-/
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
I'm on Fi. If that happens I'll abandon Fi, there are many comparable carriers at a low price like Cricket etc. You can get really nice phones like the Axon 7 for very cheap.

Honestly Google is doing nothing right these days.
[Nexus 6  General] Highway 55:
I really don't think that they are marketing these to the techies here at XDA. They are trying to get some of the iPhone and galaxy market share.
[Nexus 6  General] ChaosMinionX:
Just got my Pixel XL 128GB in black on preorder!
[Nexus 6  General] mikeprius:
May the force be with you.
[Nexus 6  General] ChaosMinionX:
Love my Nexus 6 though, 64GB White since release in '14 - It has served me very very well, its actually the longest I have ever kept a device.
[Nexus 6  General] mikaole:
German prices 759 for pixel 32, 899 for Pixel xl 32 and 1009 for xl 128gb.

I will take my N6 to dubai for that price and sent Google a bye bye sundown photo:)
[Nexus 6  General] ttabbal:
While I think you might be right about that, those are also the customers that tend to be the most brand-loyal. There's a reason Apple users are compared to cult members. :D Samsung users aren't much better, even when their devices explode. The cost is similar to a Note 7, and the Note is a better device that will likely have a higher resale/trade-in value later if you decide to go that route.

I'm passing on these. Way overpriced. The Axon 7 is a better device in many ways, at half the price. I might even wait till next year to see what happens. The N6 is still a very nice device for my needs.
[Nexus 6  General] trickster2369:
Nexus pricing? You mean like the Nexus 6 64 gb? For $700? What's the difference?

It was all just an illusion