yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
FROM:

http://pocketpccentral.net/news/7-18-06_sdhc_ppcs.htm

This was post last July 18, 2006 and it is Feb 2008 and still there is no support for us so we can use SDHC cards to our PPC mostly on my BA!!!

SanDisk, one of the world's best-known memory card manufacturers, is set to release their first SDHC, or Secure Digital High Capacity, flash memory card later this month. While physically identical to the Secure Digital cards sold over the past several years, SDHC features internal overhauls designed to take the SD card format to the next level of storage and performance. The SDHC standard is compatible with with memory chip capacities up to 32GB and transfer rates of 2MBps.

While the next-generation SD card is a welcome development, a potential problem looms: consumer confusion. SD and SDHC cards may look the same, but the new card requires different reader hardware, and that could lead to a fair number of disappointing purchases at first.

Unlike CompactFlash memory cards, which feature integrated hardware controllers, SD and SDHC cards depend upon card readers for hardware control. Because the faster and higher capacity SDHC cards require updated controllers, current SD card readers won't be able to use them. This includes the readers in all current digital cameras, MP3 players, smartphones and Pocket PCs. A Pocket PC user looking for 4GB of storage for his audio collection would soon find this newly-acquired SDHC card useless, at least for now.

Although there have been no announcements on the subject, it's safe to assume that most, if not all, Pocket PC manufacturers will begin incorporating SDHC readers in their next-generation handhelds. These updated readers would be able to use all Secure Digital cards, both the type we use today and the updated SDHC.

SDHC cards will be labeled with the updated logo shown above. For a limited time, SanDisk will include an SDHC-compatible USB card reader with every SDHC purchase. The reader won't help users looking to use the card with their handheld devices, but it will allow for faster transfers with a USB 2.0 computer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dirlan2001:
Right, you think they'll get it now ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Well, I don't think so. They're going to promote electronic gadgets that support SDHC so basically there will be no support for us...unless...santa will grant our wishes next christmas...lol...can't wait till dec 25, 2008..wahahahaha :)

what do you think MR. MODERATOR????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gregoryx:
<sigh>

Authoritative-speaking fools are kinda tiring.

Yelling doesn't change facts.

If you've got the authoritative proof of your suspicions, please help us out by posting your proof and/or your credentials.

Otherwise, what you've got is not only worthless, it's damaging the potential for other people.

SD and SDHC are physically identical from everything I've read. Search. I can't seem to Google one up right now that I believe is adequately authoritative. I wish the Wikipedia post were better footnoted.

Here's my current proof:

Look up the specs on a Samsung i730 PPC Phone.

Published with the FCC for December, 2004 accoding to this: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=667

I'm sure you can find more proof of its age with searches.

I have upgraded it from WM2003 to WM5, but that shouldn't matter, right? That's not hardware, right?

It will read a 4G SD card, but NOT a 4G SDHC card (that's the only size I have to test with).

The i730 is NOT SDHC capable; only SD. No such thing as SDHC when it was released.

My 4G microSDHC that I run in my i760 (after loading a new driver, of course :cool:) should not - NO WAY - run in that i730, right?

Load the same SDHC.cab in the i730 - as I just did (my kids use the i730s as their iPod / GameBoys still) and insert the Kingston microSDHC into an SD-sized adapter and insert it.

It works.

Which is it?

Was Samsung so ahead of the curve that they made an SDHC device before SDHC was released?

Or is the reading of an SDHC card in an SD slot a matter of a driver?

Yeesh. What's your deal? :rolleyes:

Now... that said... I think we need some updated drivers for some of these devices... and to delete some posts. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
DON'T TAKE IT TOO MUCH BRO, YOU'RE JUST MAKING IT HARD FOR YOURSELF!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Oww finally...the real fool talks..

Think about this Mr. Sira Ulong Aso y Gregoryx if you think it is only the DRIVER..how come up until now we're still having this problem..it might be the driver like what you said Mr. Bumblebee or the hardware itself...

GOD!!!....is that all you do?

And making your letters as BIG as this does not mean you are yelling or shouting...sometimes it means that person is emphasizing that particular WORD...dumdum....

Oh for Pete Sake....Monday Crasher!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
:p grrrrrrrrrrr:mad:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] haleskw:
I am trying to install the patch to allow 4GB SDHC card to be read by a HTC P3300. When I try to copy the dll files into the windows directory as instructed it seems the directory is read only. I cant find a way to change this. Can someone please help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
here we go again...

try to read sir...

anyway, use resco explorer...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mugglesquop:
can someone confirm if this works with WM5? i have tried it on mine, and dont seem to get anywhere.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sniipe:
no joy with the ASUS p535

I've installed the first cab

copied the .dll's and overwritten the dll's in the windows dir using pocketpc

I've then installed the second cab file

soft reset

Everything is the same - my kingston 4GB miniSDHC card won't work with my Asus p535 (WM6)

I will keep trying other methods and report back here if I get it working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Iftin:
SDHC Support Kit hurricane and QTEK9100.cab no work!!! wizard (qtek 9100 G3) WM06

card miniSDHC 4GB Transcend class4
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] new2city:
It's getting worst...

Hi guys, it's really getting depressing at the moment. Just tried Octaivoi WM6.1 v6.2 and there is no native support for SDHC... sigh... now, hoping to try if the patches make any difference ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dirlan2001:
tsk, tsk, tsk .....

Which is it?

Was Samsung so ahead of the curve that they made an SDHC device before SDHC was released?

Or is the reading of an SDHC card in an SD slot a matter of a driver?

Yeesh. What's your deal? :rolleyes:

Now... that said... I think we need some updated drivers for some of these devices... and to delete some posts. ;)[/QUOTE]

Yeah right, maybe we should delete YOUR posts....

BTW check out here : http://www.sdcard.org/about/sdhc/

Take a good look at the scheme that pops up right in front of your nose, and READ the comments .....

Good day to you, sir
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] solatges:
So why a non sdhc native reader can read a 4gb card?

... just explain me how my W800 from China can read a 4gb sdhc card after the patch (not the full 8gb).. Its not a native sdhc reader,isnt it? And why does it exist a full 8gb patch for wm5 ?

Thanx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] watchdog2003:
2008 "SDHC card patch WM5 and WM6" not working

16 February 2008 using an existing 2Gb microSD Card in a Transflash Adapter

1.	Download and copied to 2GB microSD card SDHC_WM6WM5.zip contains readme.txt, SDHC.cab, Certs.cab and a Windows folder that contains files sdbus.dll and sdmemory.dll

2.	Select and run sdhc.cab, ppc restarted and using File Explorer device says no storage card exists. Removed program HTC SDHC, reset and storage card restored to normal.

3.	Select SDHC.cab and Install HTC SDHC and choose device

4.	Select Certs.cab and check successfully installed on your device.

5.	Soft reset device

6.	Select File Explorer and no storage card. Select Settings , Memory, Storage Card display gives “Not Installed”

9 February 2008 Changed

XDA registry WM6 existing key is SDMemory_Class

MDA registry WM5 existing key is SDMemory_Class

Add New Key	High_Capacity

Add New DWORD	Name	Data

BlocktransferSize	64 (0x000040)

DisablePowerManagement	1 (0x000001)

Test SanDisk Micro SDHC 8GB Card with MobileMate Micro Reader and 8GB microSDHC card USB to desktop pc is OK

Is it possible that I have not followed your SDHC card patch procedure correct?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dirlan2001:
Because your hardware uses a different adressing-type. It cannot access the full 8 GB because it's NOT compatible with the SDHC-hardware. No driver can fix that....

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dirlan2001:
Same reply as to previous post.....

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SamuelM4:
SDHC on N560

t works in may loox 560 but when i try to connect with my wifi don`t find the wireless adapter, if you found that works in loox 520 it has to be the same for my Loox 560. You could explain how made it work?

I am using a Apacer SDHC 8GB class6

Sorry for my english.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rickykdean:
It took me awhile to understand the instructions (I'm kind of slow with these things) but once it did it correctly it worked. I'm thrilled. I have an Ipaq rx5915. Thanks,

Ricky
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beveridge:
ipaq rx5915

I also ahve ipaq rx5915. sdhc cab does not work afer power cycle. After standby mode it does not see sdhc card.

What did person do a couple of posts up to make it work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beveridge:
If anybody finds a solution to ipaq after stanby "losing sdhc" card please email me @ dave@beveridges.info + post on this site.

I have being searching for a while and many postes refer to this thread... so at least post solution here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jeeratda:
My BenQ P51 has the same problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slackline:
Excellent... this works like a charm on my p3300 with a SanDisk 4Gb microSDHC card :-)

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mugglesquop:
WM5 or WM6?

i cant get it to work with WM5? has anyone? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SystemR89:
This patch won't work with my BlueAngel with WM2006 [BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH)]

After patching I can't use any sd card.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 8525newuser:
Read the thread - it's all here.

Hey everyone,

Please read the entire thread. Every issue you raise has been mentioned here before, many times over.

"I installed the patch and now I can't read any card."

"It does not work on my XXX."

"I can only see 1.7 gb of my 6gb card."

"It works fine on my YYY."

"It does not read the card after awaking from sleep mode."

"I can't copy the .dll files."

"Patch works, but I can't use my wifi."

Read the thread. All that is in here, over and over. For most there is no fix and never will be unless you flash your phone with a new rom. Instead of more and more of this, please find something new and refreshing to post here. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SystemR89:
I know.

I would only advise other users that this patch doesn't work with Blueangel.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madman34:
worked on my VX6800

did it on my titan and worked.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madman34:
update, broke my wifi

yep and now trying to fix it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Iftin:
hello!

working miniSDHC Apacer 4GB class 2 wizard 9100 G3 WM2006 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1963379&postcount=2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beveridge:
sdhc Disappearing after standby ***SOLVED***

sdhc Disappearing after standby ***SOLVED***

I have just changed these settings in registry on my ipaq rx5915 and seem to be having no problems with my 4GB sdhc card.

______________________________________________________

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager:PNPUnloadDelay

changed delay to 33186 (in decimal)

and

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager:PNPWaitIODelay

changed delay to 33186 (in decimal)

______________________________________________________

I used CeRegisrtyEditor to make these changes.

dave@beveridges.info

P.S. just checked pda again... it helps with standby but does not fix completely. It still loses card afer extended standby.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cavalloz:
i can't install it on my qtek 2020, it says it can't install
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zan808:
8Gb on LG MS20.

This SDHC patch works just fine with my LG MS20. Now i can use 2Gb in FAT and 8Gb in FAT32 perfectly. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vittorinox:
I tried it and more others on a Eten G500+ and Qtek 9000, but without results: only one returns me 3.6Gb (fake...) instead 8Gb of my SDHC Card. All others return a message "Storage card is not installed". :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kamikaze_sg:
Hi lepsyfou,

There are three files, which one to install? Or have to install all three?

After installation, can i use both SDHC and normal SD card?

Thank you very much...:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Radek_PL:
Hi folks,

so... I am just about to buy two 4GB microSDs for two HTC Artemis phones with original Orange WM5 system. Installing WM6 is out of discussion as these aren't my phones, moreover, owned by company and there is no fine WM6 for Artemis in Polish anyway.

So.... Have anybody made the SDHC card running WITHOUT PROBLEMS on WM5 device (especially if Artemis?)

Please answer if you've really done it...

Thanksin advance, I'd appreciate if you also PMed me with this feedback.

Cheers

Radek:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mugglesquop:
I've got a Artemis (original WM5 from T-Mobile) and have yet to find a way to get it to work. I've tried every method i could find :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] juancosaco:
It works in my ETEN X500!!! thanks a lot!

:):)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tezza26:
I cant seem to get this to work

hi folks, i have been trying for the past couple of days to get my o2 xda orbit mobile to find the sdhc 4gb memory card that i bought for it. ive been looking all over the internet to try and find out how to get it to work and its just impossible for me.

if anyone can help me id greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Terry
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bidou:
Ok, so just like a lot of people around here, I'm unable to run this patch properly. I install the SDHC.cab on my KS20, it asks me to soft-reset, I refuse. Then when I try to install the .dll files, I'm unable to put them in the Windows folder, as it tells me that the files are read-only or something. Same problem if I try to rename or delete them, there is no way I can put the two .dll in the Windows folder.

I install then the Certs.cab, and finally I soft-reset the damn PPC. On the Windows Mobile loading screen, it invites me to boot in safe mode, I do nothing in order to boot in nomal mode. Then I try to browse on my 8 GB SDHC card : it's not detected. New soft reset, new safe mode thing : my card is detected, but only as a 3.6 GB card, which is better than nothing, but not as good as if it was detected as a 8 GB card.

So, does anyone have a solution ? It's kind of obvious that the problem comes from the fact that I can't replace the .dll files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erik71:
It works on my mio A201...great, tnx a lot:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hibbins1203:
thanks a lot. I will try.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mugglesquop:
You need to use a program such as Total Comander (more advanced version of File Explorer) this will let you change the dll files :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bidou:
I tried with TC : even with this one the files can't be replaced or deleted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] manlybeach007:
Wifi broken

I have the same problem : driver works fine, can read SDHC cards, but no more wifi. Any existing workaround or planned fix? I'm so close to it, very frustrating... Please help! :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bartliesveld:
SDHC not working in HX4700 WM6.1

- I 've tried different versions of WM6, but all give the same result in not being able to read my SDHC card. Even installing WM6.1 doesn’t make a difference.

- When I follow the steps of dirlan2001 it goes wrong at step 2: installation of SDHC.cab returning: “installation of SDHC.cab was unsuccessful”. When I use a CF or SD card it returns “HTC SDHC”cannot be installed. To try installing again to a different location…etc.” witch doesn’t make any difference.

- Does anyone has an idea what goes wrong?:confused:

Bart.

--------------------------------

Bart Liesveld, Maastricht Holland.

HP IPAQ hx4700 WM6.1 (pdav61kbd.nbf)

CF: Sandisk Extreme III 2.0 GB

SD: Sandisk 1.0GB

SDHC: Sandisk Ultra II 4.0 (not recognised, nor FAT16 or FAT32)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cwl1086:
thanks for your description

:):):)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digitanium85:
Works on LG KS20

Works on my LG KS20. Here's what I did

ran sdhc.cab, overwrote sdbus and sdmemory in the /windows folder (eject ur card first, or it will say the file is in use), and finally installed the certs.

Thanks for sharing !!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bartliesveld:
SDHC not working in HX4700 WM6.1

Thanks for your reply.

I’am afraid that I haven’t a sdbus and sdmemory file in my windows folder (only sdpready). Without sd / cf card and after reset it still retuns installation of SDHC.cab was unsuccessful.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ken0121:
Bought 8GB yesterday and it works on my KS20!

Thanks!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnnylavah:
this patch works perfect on the htc excalibur with endless reboot....although i no longer have wifi... :-(

any wifi fix out there?

UPDATE: i uninstalled the sdhc cab and wifi is working again....and NO reboot issue!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnnylavah:
UPDATE: i uninstalled the sdhc cab and wifi is working again....and NO reboot issue!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SonikVoom:
SDHC.cab Modification

Hello, I have a XV6600 (CDMA version of HTC Blue Angel) running wm2003se and would like to modify the SDHC.cab file to add this capability to the sd slot. I would also like to modify flashvideobundle_v1.4.2.cab to update the youtube fix to work on wm2003se, the 1.4.4 version only works on wm5 or later.

I've searched around for a bit and don't really know how to access the code and the different modules inside a cab file. I have a wm5 SDK disk and was wondering if that would allow me to modify the cab files. Can anyone be kind enough to point me in the right direction as to how to access the codes? I have some programming experience and would like to update my device. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] phdelia:
well the sdbus.dll & sdmemory.dll cannot be overwriten or renamed or deleted in my siemens t830. i used resco wm explorer & activesync explorer. also the sdhc.cam didn't work i used a newer version and simply run the certs.cab . will it work ? it recognises the sdhc transcend 4 gb but it hangs sometimes and you have to close and open the device again and it works. any solutions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SonikVoom:
WM5

Hi phdelia,

You're running WM5 if your device is stock. I saw this link for some people that got 8GB SDHC on the HTC Universal running WM5 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376771

From what I read it works fine in WM6 in the HTC Universal. Don't know if it will work on your T830 or the Blue Angel simply because of the hardware.

I'll have to ask them for advice on the tools they use to cook up something for WM2003SE. There isn't any way to update my XV6600 to WM5 or WM6 since all of the ROMs out there are for GSM phones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sebdigital:
I have a LG KS20 and I updated the rom to 10f version, and now the memory card (sandisk 4gb) is unstable, it sometimes disappear from explorator then is back. Any solution?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jwy2k2:
And so continues the ongoing saga of the hx4700 SDHC card drama. (cue organ music)

Just a shot in the dark but, have you tried changing the name of the SD card to "Storage Card" and/or tried a cab called "Signed_Storage_Settings_App.cab" available on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360549

Actually, that cab will change your card name to "Storage Card" automatically. I don't have an SDHC card so I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS WORKS. It's a bit of a catch22. I don't want to buy a card unless I know it will work, but I can't test if one works unless I buy a card.

It occured to me while installing this that most of the devices available now that these patches are written for have only one card slot, unlike the hx4700 with two. So, could it be so maddeningly simple that it's just a matter of putting the card name right in the registry??!!?? :eek:

Naaaahhhhhhhh, wishfull thinking, that's all, but, but, but, maybe, just maybe, fingers crossed. (cue theme music, fade to sunset)

Rufus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Destroid Monster:
Thank you guys. This SDHC driver works just fine with my Asus P735. No problems at all so far.

WM6

Sandisk 8GB microSDHC

What I did....

1) First install the SDHC.cab file into the main memory

2) DO NOT Soft Reset when prompt to do so

3) Copy the two(2) dll to \windows directory in the Asus P735

4) Do a Soft Reset

5) Install certs.cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Frisk1025:
Does the HP4700 can use it???

if it can... everything is wonderful!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jwy2k2:
I'd appreciate it if somebody would try an sdhc card out on the hx4700 using the sdhc driver posted here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=360549

I don't know if it works. I repeat, I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WORKS. Please don't get your hopes up.

The driver at that link will change your card name to "Storage Card" I don't have an sdhc card so I don't have any way to test it.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ykk2004:
thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sunny127:
Anyone tested it on XDA II ( WM5/6 ) ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Andreas083:
Works on LG ks20!

Had to copy the dll's with Total commander though. Windows copy didn't work(even if it asked if I wanted to write over).

Cheers +++!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kosmodisk:
is there anyone who make SDHC card work on HP ipaq rw6815 wm6 or O2 Atom wm6?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 23alex79:
HI, can someone please explain for a stranger/foreigner what to do EXACTLY!?

My Problem is, I can't put these files (cab's / dll) on my SDHC card and install at the phone. (Because my phone didn't "see" the 8GB SDHC!

So I have first to insert the files to my 2SD card and after istall remove the 2SD card and insert the 8GB SDHC card!???

I repead, what I wrote:

1) First install the SDHC.cab file into the main memory

(So from the "old" 2GB SD card!? - Because I had to get the cab onto the mobile device / ActiveSync doesn't work!)

QUESTION: Does this mean: the Device!???

2nd Question: ALL THREE files!?

SDHC_Artemis_back2original

SDHC-Artemis

WM5torage_178BETA2

2) DO NOT Soft Reset when prompt to do so

ok!

For step 3 - is there still my "old" 2Gb SD card inside the phone!?

3) Copy the two(2) dll to \windows directory in the Asus P735

these are the:

sdbus.dll and sdmemory.dll

To where have i to copy these!???? How did I come to the "place", where I have to copy it in!???

4) Do a Soft Reset

Is this the part, where I put the stick into the little whole!???

If so, at that time is there still the "old" 2GB SD card inside!???

5) Install certs.cab

Ok, after I have done this - what to do!?

Art what time do I have to put the SDHC card into the mobile device!?

I have problems, because I don't know exactly when to change the cards - and I tried so many things in the last few days...temporarily none of both card where working (not 2GB SD and 8GB SDHC) So I restarted the mobile device again, without card and delete the programs!

I know, a lot of "stupid" questions, but I am not really into this whole thing. I just bought a 8GB card and want it to run at my mobile device!!!

Hope someone can help me.

Greetings from germany!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 23alex79:
really, noone!??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Profy_X:
hy guys i just both my self a sd card 4gb hc but my phone (spv c600) doesn`t see him what should i do?can anyone help me?:confused:

(i have WM6 Nitro`s Platinum Edition SP1)