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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
Yeah no problem, that's why I asked if it was possible they made some preproduction display ones, cause this seems crazy to me. I'm still buying one, I can't wait to upgrade. Yeah front looked good on both. And they were both working models
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mattjewell:
Not sure why Samsung would ship out preproduction devices to retailers. That's where the consumer can actually use the device before release and if anyone is like us that pays close attention to detail, I'd see this potentially haulting sales.

Either way, I already preordered the international version. Fingers crossed!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gabrymr:
It looks like that phone was dropped on ground and then kicked along the floor... if it wasn't then it's serious damage in such a short time...

I'm still hopeful and I won't cancel my preorder, but I hope someone like jerryrigeverything will come out with a video soon.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] matsuyamakaze:
Doesn't add up if you watch the gorilla glass videos of there scientists they have what looks to be a machine with steel wool scraping the gorilla glass 5 and say keys don't hurt it ect. The photo looks like someone scratched it with sandpaper or skidded it across cement. Very odd. Ask yourself if your Samsung why you would trust gorilla glass front and back if it's a flop? I think they work hard and corning does as well. Who knows? Just don't keep a belt sander in your pocket. Lol
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] -BoneZ-:
I'm scratching my head as to why someone wouldn't use a screen protector and case on such an expensive device, insurance or not. The Note 7 (for instance) is very slippery in the hand. No way in hell would I carry that around without a case and screen protector.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
Hopefully someone will make a screen protector that will fit it. Everyone is still looking for a proper screen protector for the S7 edge and it has been months. Maybe the more subtle edges of the Note 7 will make it easier.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dat Noob:
Samsung has a screen protector as an accessory for the Note7.

http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/

EDIT:

It's annoying though that they didn't feature it during the unpacked event. They did the same with their Clear Cover case. The case I'm most interested in getting.

They showed all the accessories for the Note7 except these 2.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
That's awesome. It even looks like it may cover the sides as well. I hope that is the case. The glass strength wouldn't really bother me if that was the case.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Team420:
I havent used screen protectors since the htc evo 4g days.... Seems like a waste of money...

I have actually taken keys to my screens, and not seen a scratch after...

That being said... I dont keep my phone in my pocket with keys when I'm out hiking a mountain either... or really ever for that matter....

6 years without screen protectors, and I have noticed 1 or 2 minor scratches on 4 phones in that time....

the lg g2 being the most scratch prone...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] prox4ion:
I was at the Rogers store in the Eaton Centre and saw a screen protector on the phone. If I'm remembering correctly, the cutout shape matches the Samsung one. It didn't cover the sides entirely but I admit I didn't see it immediately. Took me a few seconds to notice that there was a screen protector on it.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
Honestly, as long as it covers at least most of the sides of the screen I'll be good. I think remember seeing one on a YouTube video that only covered the flat part though. There was a ton of the display that wasn't covered and it looked pretty bad when the screen was on. It doesn't sound like the one you saw was like that, so that is encouraging.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] albogs:
I wouldn't be surprised it the glass is scratching easily with careless use. My Galaxy S7 Edge got tons of small hairline scratches with careful use and as someone said GG5 is supposed to be stronger for drops not scratches.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] felloffthetruck:
What ever glass they used on the S7 Edge also scratched real easy.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] magnumrt562:
This is getting ridiculous. The glass will not get deep scratches like that unless there's friction AND force. I have had every flagship for the last few years, and have dropped them, taken them to the beach, Yosemite, hiking, gym etc, and have never even come close to this, most don't have any scratches to this day. if you truly believe that your phone will get like this with daily use, I have some magic beans I'd like to sell you.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
I get what you're saying and I totally agree with all the past models. However, 3 out of 4 display models that I have saw have similar scratches on them. None of the other display models with previous gorilla glass had them. Maybe it's all a false alarm.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] aznmode:
They mustve just added that to their site. Wasn't there before.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
At my local Best Buy, all 4 models on display were scratch free.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ItsDayDreamer:
I went to a Verizon store today and they had a display model of all 3 colors and none of them had any scratches.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
It could be people are scratching them on purpose to see how they hold up.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hughedee74:
In fact it was. I viewed that website 9 days ago. Stop with the ridiculous speculation and pandering inserts.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Paintedblack:
:)

Will 100's of people handle your phones? I bet it was a conspiracy by Apple users.. You know they don't like us Samsung folk to have nice things. lol
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hughedee74:
Hoopla about nothing. I've owned literally every Samsung flagship device they've released except the original S1. If you don't want the phone don't buy it. I remember my S3 getting a couple of phantom scratches and didn't freak out even though I pamper my devices. Probably happened to a few other of my later phones as well. While I do enjoy having a pristine phone like everyone else, I'm realistic. No need to come on XDA and start bashing when I haven't even had the device in my hands. Actually, I believe no one has received they're preordered devices yet as well. I've rocked all of my devices without any protection what so ever since 2013 and haven't had any problems. Again If you don't want the device, don't buy it. Just go somewhere else. Or at least give it a few days of being in the wild with the general public before this senseless rhetoric starts.

Someone please start a real thread and wrap this one up. The guy that started this one is jumping the gun and flaming things on. He's certainly not a reporter. He's already stated that he's buying anyhow. So, so much to do about nothing.

Side note: Remember when the iphone 5 I believe it was, with the glass back cover? I recall almost everyone of those were viciously cracked. The owners I spoke with about that fact didn't care. I currently own the S7 edge and like many other owners of this phone have yet to notice any wide spread catastrophes. How times are a changing. Complaining about a pre release device. Should be ashamed of yourselves.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] aznmode:
Why is everyone so testy up in here? When I went to Samsung site on release day I did not see this screen protector. I could've been mistaken but that's what I remember. So please calm down. It's just a screen protector. Wow.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
I haven't seen the OP flaming the device or feel he is jumping the gun. He saw several devices at multiple locations which was backed up by other people at multiple locations as well. That is a legitimate reason for starting this thread and asking his question. We will soon see if this is a real issue or not once people get the phones in their hands and have put them through some normal usage. The display model I saw at Costco looked perfect but that doesn't discount the multiple devices that have been reported by multiple people in this and other threads. Could these reported devices have been put through some abuse? Sure so the only way we will know if this is a real issue is with time and real world usage. That doesn't mean that a thread like this shouldn't exist and the possible issue be talked about.

I have \ had the Note 2, 3, 4, 5, and S7E so I do like my Samsung phones too, I just can look at things in an unbiased way.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
*Edit - Don't want to stir things up - *Edit

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Well said. Thank you for remaining civil and respecting other's views and concerns.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hughedee74:
Like I said, let's move on. Apparently no one in the real world own's the phone yet. If you're waiting to buy and would like some real world feedback that's fine. No one in the "real" world has the "real" devices (not counting the early lucky reporter youtube types. Haven't heard one complaint from those folks either.) Let's not speculate about display models. Most of which are always bashed up no matter whom the manufacturer is.

Move on. At this time of the product's release the title of the posting is absurd. This is only a sane attempt to bring acceptable reasoning into the equation. So far all I've seen is a contrived conspiracy. So......
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
I have my own **personal** answer now. I went to a VZW retailer and he had geometrically perfect mock-ups of all colors of the note. Guess what, the back was scratched to hell. Why, you might ask? Because the mock is perfect but also not glass, plastic. It was a similar pattern, curve glass oddity that we have seen in the OP. So, some of you won't agree or tell me how its a real unit, but for ME, I am satiated.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Tazz7773:
Gorilla Glass 5 is the same product as Gorilla Glass 4? I thinks it's harder to shatter while the scratch resistance is the same as Gorilla Glass 4. Not too sure though.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] raundown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw7PljUJ2vI

Skip to 1:21 and have a good laugh at yourselves
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
I'm confused. What is laughable?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] raundown:
At how conclusive some people are before the phone is even launched
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
Don't you know that you can believe 100% of what is posted on the internet!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] raundown:
Now I'm confused
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] pilzj:
maybe people should remove the plastic protection foil first which comes on it when you first take it from the packaging. Once removed, the scratches in the foil are gone too
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PapaWangsta:
This is not the scratch test, BUT drop test. Pretty strong IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLcN0pDjqg&feature=youtu.be
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
I'm not sure about OP, but I would be willing to bet money his was also a retail device, but the ones I saw were all powered up in demo mode. Unless they made a perfect reproduction that also powers on and displays the OS but is made of plastic for some reason. The Mock devices are easily identified as they have a sticker replicating the screen and they do not work. Unless I'm missing what you're saying here.

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There was no plastic on the ones I saw. You could feel the scratches with your fingernail easily. There were deep grooves.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] _MartyMan_:
Gosh, starting from the S6, the Sammy phones are going worse... :/
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Are you serious? :confused:
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fenderguy05:
It is very surprising that this many people are worried about an issue before any reviews have listed it as a common problem. I haven't seen any pictures of a scratched screen, so if you're that worried about it then I'd recommend a case as it will protect the back and sides. The front may be a lot stronger considering there aren't any pictures showing damage nearly as much as the backside. I've had the S7 edge for the last couple weeks after my Note 5 stopped charging and have no scratches to speak of on the screen, and I even took it on a camping trip two weekends ago.

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He's gotta be trolling...they brought back expandable memory and added plenty of other features. Maybe he's still upset about the battery not being removable?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
Check the 7th post of this thread.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fenderguy05:
Whoops, guess I was so distracted by the monotony of pictures of backs of phones, that that ONE picture was wiped from my memory. I retract my previous statement.

Regardless, I still think it's ridiculous we're tearing apart display model damage. If you throw your phone around I'd be worried, but I treat my phones like pets so I'm not concerned.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ChimpNippl3s:
Ffs these are display models get a grip
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] _MartyMan_:
Yeah, i'm not a hater i love the S2 (it's a hero) even the S5... But the M9 is better than the S6 in my opinion. Yeah the 810 overheats, but that's because it's in aluminium house and not in plastic.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
You and the other 10 people that bought it. ;) HTC's pretty much done. They've lost money the past four quarters and didn't/don't have much money in the bank to begin with. Doing contract work building Nexi isn't going to save them. If the HTC Nexi have the same QC and build issues as their last piece of contract work (Nexus 9 tablet) God help them and Google's customers.

Sony's next closest to mobile death with LG and Lenovo/Moto circling the grave yard. Smartphones are a low margin game with scale (volume) being king. The next "number two" is going to be Huawei who has an international presence as well as broad and diverse resources to play the long game.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Femmetechstic:
Came here to post this, haha :D

Pretty impressive, I've cracked phones from less high up. Still: screen protector for me.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PapaWangsta:
And this dude went further with knife and hammer. :confused:

Note 7 seemed to be the toughest phone ever made! Especially with glass front and back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42Q1LNvn_4
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
But it broke on the first drop, how is that impressive? I understand it was the back and not the front but if they are both GG5, then it's basically a 50/50 on it breaking. Wonder if someone has tempered glass for the back too, but it's gonna add some weight to have it up front and on back.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Just opened a separate thread on this very clip before I saw this post. The official samsung tester, cough cough, is only testing the claims Samsung make. If you read the Samsung operating manual it says the owner can take a 1.5kg hammer and hit the device and it wont break. Hang on thats for the Samsung Earth mover-JCB, not the Note 7?

I would like to test him with a hammer. :eek:

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gabrymr:
Jerryrigeverything predicts that GG5 could scratch at lvl5 of his tests instead of lvl6 like GG4. I wonder if his prediction will be true or not.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Is he psychic?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
If it were a metal phone that landed on its corner that corner would be beaten up pretty badly. The Note7 had its corner beaten up. That it didn't spider web and crack the entire back glass

is

impressive. My Note5 took a pretty cushy fall and landed on its corner and the entire back spider webbed out from the impacted corner. So if my Note7 performs like the one in that video it's a big leap forward from my Note5.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
At last a realistic intelligent post on the subject. :good:

Ryland
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
Wait, you are being real? Amaze!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] amith007:
Is there an option to purchase this thing? I don't see a buy option.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Sure am. Samsung's plastic phones were more durable than any of their current ones. Everyone panned the hell out of Samsung's build quality and material choices. So they (and other OEMs) gave us what we wanted - beautiful glass and metal objet d'art that are great to look at but can't take a fall. And we lost a replaceable battery in the process. Be careful what you wish for. Want a phone you can bounce off a wall? Get an S7 Active.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
According to his Twitter it apparently scratched at a level 3. [emoji20]
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
His last post was three hours ago with no verdict. Do you know something I don't? JRE is trustful so I'm anxious for his results as are a lot of people who want to see how GG5 performs.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
It was a response that he made when someone made a guess.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Could be. Or he could be stirring up interest for his YouTube video when he posts it. We'll know soon enough. ;)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
I really hope you're right!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] CACV:
Just see some videos of drop test and knife test in youtube, the phone manages it very very well.

(watch?v=z42Q1LNvn_4

watch?v=7sLcN0pDjqg)

Regards!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
Well, I called it. The screen is basically plastic on the Note 7. Unfortunate for a phone that costs almost $900. I'm thinking the GS7 edge may be the better phone for those who are OCD about scratches.

https://youtu.be/571pu66vEBc
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Case it is. That kind of sucks. I like the shatter resistance which is my greatest fear but I'm OCD so scratches will bug the crap out of me. I won't use a screen protector so I'll let you now how I fair. My year-old Note5 is scratch free front and back but the back's never been naked.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] m0biusace:
Ugh, mohs level 3? This must be how the phone is more shatter resistant. A "softer" glass that can tolerate shocks without cracking, but much easier to scratch. This is going to really hurt resale of a lot of used phones unless both a case and a screen protector is used.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mbzeitz:
So is Corning lying? Page 2 of their GG5 datasheet shows GG5 has similar hardness to GG4.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gabrymr:
Yeah that's it, cancelled my order, I don't want a scratch magnet unfortunately. **** I wanted this phone, but with this resistance... no thanks because I despise screen protectors and cases.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mankvl:
People are so paranoid these days. Some dude makes a test where he for f**k sake uses a screwdriver to scratch a screen and compare it to S7E. How I know he did not used more pressure on test 3? Is he a robot and anyway who cares? I would never put my screen near a metal and scratch it... these thest are pointless. Make it with a bag of keays or money. Make a test with sand or so on... That thing he used is point sharp that would never stand in real life.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] rndll:
Mohs hardness scale.

It doesn't matter if it's sharp or dull. An extremely sharp object with a lower Mohs scale number should never be able to scratch one that has a higher number. His method is actually a proven scientific method that Corning uses as well.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gabrymr:
Exactly, except Corning used "business talk" and said it's "similar harness to GG4" which means it could be same or in this case it's not. It'll be 2 terrible years with GG5 I guess...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] rndll:
I'm not defending Corning, quite the opposite. I was just replying facts to the previous poster who was in denial and not knowledgeable in this scientific method. Either Corning is lying or there is an additional layer that is being scratched over GG5 like a new anti-reflective or oleophobic coating which is still bad. I would have preferred Samsung stick with GG4.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gabrymr:
Yeah I understand, I guess I should have quoted the other comment. I wish they stuck with GG4 too, I have note 4 right next to me that I bought on release day it has 1 scratch on it. I dropped it on concrete floor. I hate screen protectors and cases and never use them, I drop a phone once a year at the worst, but I carry them without a case, which was fine so far... with this GG5 don't think so.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mankvl:
I give up... What this scientific test pruve? For me nothing.I can bet you with just a case and no screen protector I will have 0 scratches... My s4 after 3 years have 0 so your scientific test are just OCD. No one will act with his phone like that... And good luck dropping S4 with GG4.

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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ert69:
Yall seen this? It is 2x ****ter than all the other gorilla glasses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] rndll:
The S4 uses GG3. GG3 is actually more scratch resistant than GG4 but more prone to shattering.

Scratch resistant = Harder mineral = More shatter prone

Shatter resistant = Softer/flexible mineral = More prone to scratching

This is also the reason why it's not feasible to use sapphire glass on phones. It will be very scratch resistant but will shatter easily compared to Gorilla glass.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] THS1989:
It is VERY scratch prone.

It sratches by something on the Hardness scale of 3H....

It's basically as scratch resistant as plastic....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] abthegreat:
If thats the case prolonged use of the SPen will leave a boatload of scratches. The geniuses at Samsung thought it would be a good idea to have softer glass on a phone with a stylus !
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ert69:
I just posted this literally 2 posts ago.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] rndll:
It was posted already before your post actually.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
If the Nexi use GG5 is everyone going to faint? I'm guessing to keep up with each other all new flagships and pseudo-flagships will have it by next year. You all freaked me out though so I'm getting the official screen protector. The fact that Samsung's offering an official screen protector for the first time might be a subliminal message.

http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mankvl:
Damn, what about:

http://www.iqshield.com/iq25907-matte-samsung-galaxy-note-7-edge-phone-skin-protector.html

How much is the sammy one?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
$13.99 for two. I've learned my lesson over the years when buying accessories. 1/3 of non-OEM products are above average and 2/3 lean toward crap. I have no patience so I make Samsung rich and buy theirs. At least I know they'll be above average. With the edge screen and my OCD I don't want to take a chance that a third party screen protector won't fit so I can't see it. The Samsung protectors look like they're dry apply and come in sets of two. I ordered two sets figuring I'll get one of the four on perfectly. ;) Sigh.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hkr:
Don't understand, why there are so many differences in several tests seen so far.

The video posted somewhere else shows no problems, when the guy massacred his phone with a knife (start at 02:02 minutes).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42Q1LNvn_4
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mankvl:
Same with ram management in one video it fails in other it's ok... same with battery one get 4j SOT others 6h SOT... When I get mine I will know for shure all this video are BS.