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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gekkehenkie11:
I still cant get my head around it. Gorilla glass 4 just rocked, so they release gorilla 5 glass that just plain sucks ?!?! wtf ...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
They wanted to go for break resistance over scratch resistance. I watched a You Tube video yesterday and they dropped the Note 7 on it's face 50 times and outside of the edges cracking the screen and phone still worked fine.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fenderguy05:
I remember seeing that video and was quite impressed. A lot of people running without a screen protector are reporting no scratching. I watched a video comparing the Note 5 & 7 and while the Note 5 initially cracked early, the Note 7 was the one left standing after a few couple more drops. The Note 5 shattered and was completely unusable, while the 7 was cracked, but completely view-able & usable.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
Corning obviously think shatter resistance is more important than scratch resistance.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] situman:
My nexus 6 scratched from just being in my pocket. So much for GG4. My Droid x screen is still pristine. The og GG is still the most scratch resistant.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Title101:
Based on the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR2rQyNZGU

Here is another that appears to not suffer any scratches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY3kwyGjfAs

I'm beginning to think we may have been misled on GG5 being just slightly better than plastic.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Mine is as shiny and lovely feel as the day I got it, no scratches on front, and only a couple of extremely fine ones on back (i am not too careful about which surface I put it on, heard table salt can scratch glass pretty easily). Shame I have to swap it out, hope the replacement is just as perfect!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] klsmalls1:
So I have never had a cracked screen on any of my phones. I keep them in cases and with screen protectors on... This phone however, i figured Id go with a clear rubber skin and no screen protector (the first 2 fell off and since im returning once the replacements come in, shrug)... And then tonight happened. I have NO IDEA what happened, but with out any drops or knowledgable bumps, I cracked the front glass from the home key to the corner... F*cking pissed. I'm SO glad I get to return this crap in a few wks.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] hotstocks:
The phone doesn't spontaneously crack. You obviously sat on it or did something, maybe you should think harder.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Maybe a small meteorite hit it? Lol
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
Your home button has damage. It didnt spontaneously crack dude.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] The Phone Company:
Wow what a couple of meany replies. That looks like a bad crack and no doubt he is upset. This is a serious issue, REGARDLESS of how he managed to crack the screen.

Extremely concerning! What are we supposed to do if, after the recall, with unreturnable phones we have cracked screens?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] i killed tupac:
...you can see the impact mark bellow and on the home button...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] THS1989:
I took the screen protector off mine since it will be getting replaced anyway due to recall.

No scratches so far.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ClevelandWheeler:
I only put this darn thing in my pocket and it has scratches on the screen.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] EarlZ:
I have lots of hair line scratches on the back but surprisingly nothing on the front, since the recall I took out the case ant protector
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] majidessa:
I have been using the phone for the past one week without screen protector and there are zero scratches! I was paranoid with all the GG5 bad publicity that I thought my phone would scratch once the screen is naked. I've treated this phone the same way I treated all my previous phones not more not less. I only use Spigen thin ultra clear case on the back.

I believe the GG5 is as good as GG4 if there are any differences they would be minor and should not affect normal day to day use just my 2 cents
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] acheney1990:
My screen cracked from about a 4 inch drop. Wasn't especially impressed.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] winol:
I honestly cant believe some things posted here, unless there is also a batch of deffective gorilla glass 5, I have had the phone naked, carried in my back and front pockets, since august 29, amd has not a single scratch, have not dropped it, but some say it almost scratches by itself! Well, I dont know, something fishy here.....
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] juliend:
I cleaned my up real well today to return it. I found two tiny little nicks in the front, nothing more. I've been running it naked since finding out about the recall. I'm not worried about GG5 at this point.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] who_killed_santa:
Has anyone found a screen protector + phone case combo that actually work together? The glass screens I've had, which cost me $50, didn't fit properly. I also tried plastic screen protectors, but they all come up at the corners when I put the phone case on :(
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] mankvl:
Imo you won't find any... maybe JETech is good and case friendly but some dust might get in because no adhesive on the sides and it might peal of if you put the phone underwater. Other then that it's rly case friendly :) After touching a demo unit that is still connected to a charger 24/7 (but max battery goes to 60%) I know that I won't be able to use nay screen protector unless it feels like N7 glass it self. It's so nice I can't describe it... even S7E was different and I was able to use both side by side!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MKchrias:
JETech also gets water underneath in rain.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] D.O.C:
Samsung sp and cases are 100% compatible
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] who_killed_santa:
I was wondering about this. But they've been out of stock from the Samsung.au website since they started taking Note 7 pre-orders. Do you have a link to anywhere they can be bought? Here are the links I've tried that are always out of stock:

http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/accessories/case/EF-ZN930CBEGWW

http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/accessories/case/ET-FN930CTEGWW
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] D.O.C:
I bought them at amazon Spain (I live there), Sorry Í cant help you anymore :/
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Dmac1984:
Been going completely naked for about a week, no case, no screen protector and no back protector, in and out of my pocket all day. Still not a single mark on my phone, looks like the day i got it and smooth a silk.

I think people bang their phones up, or don't recognize what kind of damage they do to their phones then want to blame someone else for it. I've treated this phone like it's wrapped in a case since I've gone naked with it, not treating it any different as if it had an Otterbox on it and still nothing. But also by habit I'm generally really careful with my phones anyways, i don't slide them across my desk or toss or slam them, I keep them wiped down and clean, i don't put them in my pocket with anything else and so far I've had no problems. You can treat your phone however you want for sure, but these are delicate and you'll see a return on that abuse even if it's minimal abuse, now-a-days these phones don't leave any room for error and some people are just error-prone.

Honestly since going naked last week with my Note 7 and seeing it still look perfect, It has me wondering if I need to let up on being so anal and maybe start going naked on my phones from here on out and finally enjoying them as they were meant to be enjoyed.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] millicent:
It's been 2 weeks since I wear this device 'naked', while waiting for a replacement. It goes in my pockets mostly but also my bag sometimes, gets along just fine with keys or other plastic objects.

I dropped it or fell by itself mostly on my hardwood floor from up to 1m on at least 3 occasions.

Only one paint blemish so far on the metal edge, I guess less than 1 mm in size, probably one of the falls.

Now just to end on an ominous note, pardon my pun, this thing is slippery af. The smallest surface incline, even on porous material such as paper, the naked note happily and slowly starts to slide away.

Sent from my unexploded N930W8
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gekkehenkie11:
If you don't put any keys with your phone in your pocket, you most probably will be fine. But I've kept keys with my 6p in my pocket for over a year, not a single scratch, while my N7 had several scratches in just 2 weeks.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] winol:
well, if you dont want ANYTHING to get scratches, not only a note 7, then be careful, it is a thing of common sense, do not expect zero scratches or dents by not beeing careful, even zaphire glass can be scratched
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] matsuyamakaze:
Mine never scratched either naked also it has been shown in videos and was tested by scientists proven to survive many 5 foot drops.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jackdforme:
I'm calling BS on this as the nexus 6p is a really easy to scratch glass. Look online and in these forums.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Bachatu:
I was on a cruise a couple of weeks ago and my phone flew out of my hands while taking it out of my pocket. I was in the balcony and the screen side hit the metal rail, flipped and landed on the floor. Everyone thought it was going to fly out to the water but luckily it didn't. The screen protector had white paint stuff marks and when I cleaned them off found a 3 inch hair line crack. It's barely visible and have to really look hard to see it. Hoping they exchange it without having to fix the screen.

YMMV
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] EarlZ:
For maybe 3 weeks ive removed the screen protector I now have a hairline scratch on the screen its difficult to see and can only be visible in certain angles and with good bright light.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
For those of you with the back of the phone naked would you try this and confirm my findings? I am very careful with my devices and removed the Ghost Armor that I had applied the day I received it when the recall was announced. Within 2 days, I found the lower rear to be scuffed or lightly scratched. The only way this could have happened, I believe is from the phone vibrating on the desk at work. So if anyone is willing, turn on the vibration and call the phone a few times and see if you get the marks on the lower rear. Tapping the screen with my wedding ring and the rear glass with the ring yields two distinctly different sounds. I also find that interesting. The screen remains flawless.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Are you sure the scuff marks weren't caused by your wedding ring while holding the phone? Or by fumbling a bit with the USB connector?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
The scuff/scratches run the entire width of the bottom of the rear glass.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
How long are the scratches? Horizontal or vertical?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
Vertical, maybe 1/2mm tall if that. Looks like one of those earthquake graphs but no tall spikes and almost no space between the scratches.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Sure sounds like it hit something a lot faster or harder than vibration could account for.

Could you have pressed it against a hard surface while applying the armor?

Have you ever let your pants drop to the floor with the phone in the pocket?

Does anyone else ever have access to your phone?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
The Ghost Armor was installed by the rep at the mall. When I removed it, the scratches were not there.

Never dropped the phone at all, in my pants pocket or otherwise.

No one else ever uses or accesses my phone.

I was just as surprised add you are that the scuffs appeared. The vibrating against the desk is the only explanation that I can come up with.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] winol:
I have seen many posts in which the scratches appear in the lower part section, Thererefore I can suspect this, the curved part of the screen is most prone to be scratched, due to physics laws, less area equals more pressure, so, I would advice to be extra careful or a case, due to this particular geometry of the screen

---------- Post added at 07:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:59 AM ----------

Some folks are oing tosay straight away that no rough or hard tratment caused scratches, but, really? in their real life are they absolutely sure they have not caused any scratch? I dont think so, A curve screen is not the same as a flat one, I have had a couple of cheap flat scrrened ones, well, they havent got any sort of scratch, but, because they are flat!!!!!!! please, think about it, becore flamming this curved screen, i is not as all the other around!

---------- Post added at 07:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:05 AM ----------

want a premmium screen? then treat likewise!!!!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
Just to confirm--both the front and back had been armored?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chazglenn3:
Yes, both the front and rear were armored. I think I will just get the rear of my new phone done. I didn't really like the way the S-pen felt on the film on the front. And the front is still scratch free.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] who_killed_santa:
In the six days between when I heard they were recalling to when I returned my Note 7, I used the phone without screen protector and phone case because I knew they would replace with a brand new phone and wanted to test the durability.

Its not good. In six days of what I would call pretty standard treatment without any protection, my Note 7 was all scratched up. Mostly on the back corner edges. I didn't treat it particularly roughly. I did sit it down on hard table surfaces and sat it on the passenger car seat while driving, but never put it in the same pocket as keys or anything like that.

Compared to the durability of the replacement J1 Mini I've been using in exactly the same way for the past two weeks now (still looks brand new, just like my old Note 4 still does), the Note 7 glass seemed quite soft and scratched from barely anything - at least on the back. I think the back must be an even softer glass than the front? I'm sorry to say but to me its quite evident that the all glass phone will scratch all over quite quickly if not covered up.

I'm not taking my new replacement Note 7 out of the box until I can find a screen protector + phone case combo that play nice together...
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Gary02468:
I don't doubt your experience, but it's puzzling. I used my N7 heavily, without any protection, for two weeks. When I turned it in for the recall, I checked carefully, with illumination from multiple angles, and there were zero scratches, front or back.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Tidbits:
I got the skinomi case friendly screen protector and so far the cases I have work well with it when I had my Note 7. Spigen Neo Hybrid, Ghostek I forget which has a medal band, and Verus I forget the name but has a kickstand.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] davkpl:
I think following video explains if GG5 is harder softer or the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etn0F7UJ1Bw&ab_channel=AndroidAuthority

, and in my opinion Corning (and Samsung) just botch this phone.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jdyowa:
I tried to scratch it with a key yesterday and also a knife. right on the screen. No scratches. I did apply a liquid protector, though. Maybe that helped.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] borijess:
What protector is it?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jdyowa:
Shark Proof.

https://www.amazon.com/Highest-Quality-Protector-Samsung-Protectors/dp/B0178AURT8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474295235&sr=8-1&keywords=shark+proof1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474295235&sr=8-1&keywords=shark+proof

Before I applied it I had some light scuffing on the back of the phone near the bottom. Now I can't scratch it. So, I guess it works.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MKchrias:
Available in uk

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...0&keywords=sharkproof+liquid+screen+protector

May try it if my phone ever appears!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fenderguy05:
Just to check in, I've had the phone since release without a screen protector and only in a case and have no scratches. The back isn't exposed, but the screen has been all this time and there are no scratches. After the recall was announced I had it in the same pocket as my keys, and even took my keys to the screen and there's nothing. I'm more confident now in choosing to go without any screen protection even with the new device. Can't wait until Wednesday when I can swap this thing out and move on!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
Haha kinda funny now to read this considering all that's happened
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] tonymy01:
Did anyone see this, "JerryRig Everything" retracted his video bagging GG5 due to his Moh's scale picks being contaminated: https://youtu.be/nOz4Kf5AL7Q
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] teegunn:
Yes that has been posted. Good to see that he not only retracted, but found the exact reason for why the test was faulty. Exactly the kind of info we'd like to learn about the battery issue - an actual "why" would be nice.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] oplix:
I absolutely believe that gorilla glass 5 and the new corning glass for iPhone 8 line of products are defective. Certainly much less scratch resistant than previous generation
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
No, people just expect to not have a downgrade with newer models.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] invisiblesense:
I posted in another thread on here that my phone got scratched on the first day in my pocket, and I had nothing in my pocket. I was astonished because I was thinking this phone was made of much tougher glass then previous notes. Thankfully I noticed in time and was able to put on a screen protector that was actually for the front.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Does any member know the actual hardness rating of Corning gorilla glass 5?

Only sapphire crystal is rated one below diamond and only a diamond can scratch sapphire glass. The problem with Sapphire glass is cost and shaping.

I own the Galaxy S6 edge+ and before that the edge 6 and could not purchase a glass screen protector that was satisfactory. To this day my Edge 6+ has no screen cover. Have to use one of those horrible leather flip cases. I suspect it will be the same with the note 7, just unable to purchase a satisfactory glass screen saver?

Ryland

Nice to see the panic mob here doing their best to discredit the mobile before its even been released world wide. Nothing spreads so well as a doom and gloom story.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
Yeah "panic mob" ok. Sorry didn't know there is some kind of "don't hurt the phones feelings etiquette" that I didn't follow when asking a question about a display model that shows obvious signs of wear after a week of being placed in a drawer. It's a legit question, I had a phone with gorilla glass 1 that held up to constant abuse and screen looked flawless. I'm just trying to see if this is a wide spread issue, if others have seen it as well, or just 3 random phones that people (apparently according to some of you) placed on a belt sander :rolleyes:

I've never had a phone with a glass back. (besides wife using an iPhone which doesn't look like that after 3 years) Other phones I had, I just replaced the back when it got scratched up. My note 3, even in a case got all scuffed on the plastic silver bezel despite never being dropped. If there is a weakness somewhere in this phone like that one, then I want to protect it, and like I said in the original post, I will get a back skin for it. Just surprised that it doesn't look to hold up better then .99 cent tempered glass from China.

(opinion from op only, does not constitute any accusation or assumption of a conspiracy revolving around a unreleased phone, Gorilla Glass, Kennedy assassination, 9/11, Chem trails or any other items or events. OP is* not responsible for any discomfort in your posterior region due to anything written by OP, and or any comments related to, or regarding above mentioned subject or subjects whether or not written by the op or any other individuals.)

*regardless of what the definition of is is
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
The public is awful when it comes to abusing products in store. As someone who worked retail as a teenager and did sales, all of our products out for display or trial were unbelievably beat up and in awful condition because the general population doesn't take good care of things when they know it isn't theirs. It's a shame, but I've witnessed it so many times. I'm sure people are not using these phones in the same way you would treat your brand new $900 device, so don't worry too much.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Based on volume Samsung is probably Corning's biggest customer. I'd like to believe that GG5 has been in R&D since before GG4 was released. You'd think that Samsung and Corning have been working closely on the launch of the first device to implement GG5. If GG5 (and therefore Samsung's most expensive flagship) was so susceptible to damage I'd like to believe neither company would have said "go." But who cares about two multi-billion dollar companies wanting to put out a successful new product when you have two random pics and a random testimonial to draw a conclusion from. :rolleyes:.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] vapotrini:
Sorry but a 1 week old phone is not supposed to scratch like that unless you are pretty reckless with your phone. My 2 year old note 4 doesn't have a single scratch or blemish on it and I've never used a screen protector or case. I can't see any scenario other than dropping your phone, that should have those phones looking like that after a single week.

Of course if all of the reports are from demo units only, then it's far less concerning.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
If you look at where the red arrow is there's clearly something on top of the glass as there's a lip showing. What that something is and why or how it got there I have no clue.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
Yeah that's interesting. Maybe it is something on top of it, or maybe it's just the glass deflecting light differently on the corner no idea. I'll have to check at another store sometime
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the glass back of a Note5 naked. The back glass is the same for every Note5 regardless of color. The color is an applique applied to the inside of the glass. There's no lip on the outside and if anyone has a rounded glass back late-model Samsung phone you'll see there's no reason for one.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
Ok two phones, and no its not a film on these. Up close as I could with my note 3, and a silver one too.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MACHEK:
And super close on that edge, it's just curving of the glass.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] BarryH_GEG:
First, thanks for taking so much time to take pics. Something's not right with those phones. Look at the gap between the glass back panel and the metal frame in the last pic you posted. There's no way that's a production-standard phone. I may be in denial but I refuse to believe Samsung would put out a successor to the Note5 that would scratch that easily. Or that if GG5 is that soft they'd use it instead of sticking to GG4. So one of three things is happening - 1) those are pre-production units thrown together in advance of the launch, 2) Samsung's changed their design and there's now something on top of the glass rather than the applique applied to the inside, or 3) GG5 is an epic fail.

I assume you looked at the front of all the devices you photographed and if the displays aren't scratched it's probably not GG5 that's the problem. So it's either 1 or 2. I'm hoping for 1. If it's 2 Samsung's going to have a calamity on their hands. I'll wait until I have my Note7 next week before forming an opinion. But all this amateur sleuthing is kind of fun. ;)