yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sean D.:
Basically, it wont load SMS messages from most contacts. Hard to say if there is a pattern to it, but it does happen more often with cotacts that have pictures associated with them.

When I tried 0.25 it would load on message no matter how many I have from that contact. I will give 0.25b a try to see what happens.

Otherwise, this is a fantastic app. Keep up the great work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tboxxx:
:confused:my keyboard disapears when i go to text
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yerp:
wow...2 releases in a couple of days!.....unfortunately, i'm going to revert to .23

i find that on my device(titan/mogul) and usage combo, there are 2 nagging "bugs"...

1. the switch from portrait to landscape is now terribly slow...it is damn near instantaneous with .23

2. the alphabet list on the far left side is compressed with white space above and below it

on the plus side, my only issues with .23 were resolved. one was how the SMS messages were loaded(friends messages first, then mine). the other was the progress bar making the messages take longer to send.

the alpha list thing i could deal with, but since i use the slide-out hardware keyboard exclusively, the portrait/landscape lag is a deal breaker for this build. i can hardly wait for to try the next. keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sean D.:
Yup, same SMS bug

Just installed and tried 0.25b, and it is giving me the same SMS issue's as .24, and .25. It either wont load any SMS messages at all, or if anything it will load only one (the latest) message that a contact sends.

I went ahead and re-re-re-installed .23 just to have my SMS messages show up. It has it's own issues, but at least I can see all my messages with this version.

Oh well... patiently waiting for 0.26. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] extraducksauce:
do you have your call logs displayed with in the threader? not all my sms messages show when i have that checked in the settings. I dunno that works for me, because i us the wm call history function in the dialer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sean D.:
No I don't have that checked either. I was having the same SMS issues with .24, .25, and now .25b.

So I guess I will stick to .23 (and it's issues)for the time being.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] extraducksauce:
i am noticing this problem as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] w04g005:
I have same bugs on my polaris. additional i found out that when i choose a contact on the right side of the contact picture the contact list is shown.

and when i want to write a sms the keyboard (pocketcm) disappears!!!

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Harboe:
This just keeps getting better and better. :)

One little request though. I'm using PhonePad and after a "." the first letter doesn't get capitalize. Is that possible to change?

Thanks up front and keep up the good work.:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TorxT3D:
tene, did you ever read my pm about the applications idea i had?

i think i sent you a pm through the pocketcm forums, and i mightve sent through xda forums as well. Please respond about it, if you ever read it.

i asked these questions in the pocketcm forum, i'll ask here to see if anyone can help, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I don't read PM.

most of those questino have already been answered in this forum, in my forum and in other places, basically the idea is to set the box of what you want to get rid of to 0,0,0,0, and to set background to none.

However, pay attention: removing stuff you don't like also remove (sometime needed) feature.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dickmol:
Thank you Tene. I have installed the last Extraducksauce's theme, similar to iphone, and it is working well.

PD: I have posted a suggestion for a new realese in your forum.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eazy2001x:
Is anyone else having a problem with .25 and the Diamond T9 Keyboard. It seems that when I type and use the keys towards the bottom the whole keyboard will suddenly disappear. The only way to get it back is by tapping on the message you just received then the send message box and it will pop back up. It seems to have something to do with the word prediction row that comes up.

I also get the problem if I don’t wait for all the messages to load, then the pic to load. If I quickly open a contact and go to SMS then start to send a message before everything loads. It almost seems that it will reload part of the app three times (in message/out message/pic) and close the keyboard. So if I sit there and wait for all this to happen it will work better. I did not have a problem on .24
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Atze001:
SMS Page Picture Bug (I think)

If I would write an SMS and tap on a contact with a few sms and than tap on the sms input box pocket cm closes/crashes down.

It only works if I wait till the SMS Contact Picture is shown.

How can I disable the SMS Contact Feature? (I like this feature very much but its horrible always to wait till the picture is shown).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nolageek:
Would it be possible to have the "contacts with SMS" screen to look like the "Chats" screen in SMS-Chat?

Here's both of them on my device, I find the SMS-Chat to be MUCH more clear.

I was looking in settings.ini but could figure out how this could be done. (I'm mainly interested in the format:

first / last name (# ) date

message read/unread icon
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] extraducksauce:
i noticed a slow rotation (portrait to landscape) bug with v25b and have opened a thread in tene's forum. if you are noticing this as well, please post a comment there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] extraducksauce:
my mash-up theme based on your original work takes care of 2 & 3.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eazy2001x:
This new ver is way too temperamental for me. It seems that it closes out on its own while sending a message while leaving the keyboard on the screen. I end up with a sip and the bottom of my screen and my today screen in the background. Then I open back up the app and choose show sip and tap the screen to remove it. I really think it has a problem do with the amount of refreshes it does not to load the data as I mentioned in my prior post.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Skyjouby:
Hi,

I'm use to having the 0.11 version as it is the one installed by default on the Artemis Touch 4.02 rom.

I'm found of the theme. I decided to update it with the last one, but I have choice between "Dream" and "Black" theme.

Where can I find the theme represented on the first oage of this thread into the 0.20 section?

I mean this one:

Kind regards,

Cyril
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eazy2001x:
Ok.. I found the bug with 0.25b.. When you load your sip keyboard and press the very bottom of the screen under the keyboard your application will automatically minimize.. big issue when you are using the letters towards the bottom of your keyboard and accidentally hit the very bottom of your screen...

Eazy
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
It's not related to 0.25b and has been there for a while.

Easy workaround: don't tap here ;)

By the way, I've put 0.25c online
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MarcLandis:
I read that and I can see that you released this version 3 days ago :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yerp:
i read it!!! this build seems perfect so far. alphabet list is fixed and the switch from portrait to landscape is fast again.

thanks tene!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wanwarlock:
a new version??? so soon?? will update. thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_deimos:
Thanks a lot for the update :)

Unfortunately i still can't get the "-contacts" and "-favorite" command line options to work. I tried to use "-contact" instead of "-contacts" in case of a typo in the changelog - no luck. The "-sms" and "-dialpad" options work fine on the other hand, so it seems to be a problem with pocketCM itself, not with my way launching it.

Also, i have a feature proposal connected to command line options: how about making the cab installer create shortcuts with all possible command line parameters. Might help some people notice and use this feature.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sean D.:
Same s***

Alright, just tried .25c does anybody have this issue:

My SMS messages will not load for most contacts. Actually they wont load for any contacts at all. If anything one message (the most recent) message will load, that's it.

It seems like i'm the only with this problem, or who is willing to bring it up so if anybody has a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it. Because it doesn't seem like it's going to be fised anytime soon :mad:

I wanna stick with this, but it's looking like I will (again) have to revert back to .23
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] extraducksauce:
slow rotation has been solved with this version. thanks tene.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bububang:
[/]Show contact without phone

But it still show contact :(

After view SMS , press Back, it will show the contact detail.. its build to be like that? The old version will show SMS instead of contact detail.. :confused:

Using htctoucher Bubble Theme 2.0
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
you're the one who read this, nice to meet you ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
New original, interesting and completely random bugs????

Umm.. ok .. lol..

i will give it a try on my diamond :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joshrys:
I'm having a problem adding pictures to contacts. When i choose set picture it opens the winmo viewer, i choose my picture, click OK. It then brings up the CM Notes. I choose OK and it goes back to the contact page, but still no picture. I tried .25 and .25c. Tried with various themes, Tried with picture in main m emory, and also on the SD card. No workie. Any fixes for this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eazy2001x:
Lol... It seems to be more of an issue now.. I use the HTC Diamond Keyboard and the letters are close to the bottom. I never noticed the problem until i upgraded to your new ver.. maybe it screwed up something with my theme. Dunno.. Oh well.. Ill just wait for 0.26 ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
0.26 won't fix it.

I put the keyboard on purpose a few pixel above the border of the screen, it allow you to still hide the keyboard, in case pocketcm crash with the keyboard visible. For me that's important while it's a beta release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gpx85:
Thank you Tene. I've been using PocketCM contacts managere for months now and I really love it.

Go on like this!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chrisp954:
how do you change it to a black skin ???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jim256:
go to settings. just hit the filter button, then options.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jim256:
tene, i have recently purchased a treo 800w, and sms messages do not seem to load. sometimes some will load (from me only), other times none. i have tried changing the sms settings in pocketcm, and tried having the palm messaging app both open and closed but nothing seems to work quite right.

it does recognize that there is a new message, and it will show as much of that msg as it can in the sms page, but when i click on a specific conversation, it simply says no messages...any ideas? have any 700w/wx users reported anything similar ever?

thanks a lot!

EDIT: just saw that hannip over at treocentral said this:

Palm texts are in a separate database so you won't see them in your Poutlook Inbox. Unfortunately there is no way to import them."

tell me this isnt an impossible block to get around! :S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
This might be a really dumb question but, if I delete all my sent messages (to relieve some space on my Wing), my outbox messages, will the threaded sms still work?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I'm afraid it's not possible to workaround, or you'll have to get rid of treo sms software and use the standard poutlook.

It should "work", you'll just won't see the conversation anymore.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dannydeman:
I have a problem with 0.15. When it loads, I see it for 2 seconds and then it closes itself :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sabestian:
Still can't use it with Touchpal SIP - send button still doesn't work - just like in 0.15 :( It's a pity because I love your application. But Touchpal wins.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] seifip:
Sad, but true... I totally agree with famewolf. The old version was much better (in everything except loading time but I can live with it...)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] seifip:
The send button does work, but you have to hold it for a few seconds (so that you couldn't press it by accident)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] syrguy1969:
I just wanted to give this question a bump, I think this is the only thing stopping me from switching to this newer version. I am thrilled with this upgrade, please don't get me wrong, but I created two skins (sci-fi:complete, and Dr Who: under construction), and considering my skill level with programming, or constructing skins (compared to guys like Tene and A_C (10's) my skill level is about -10, I take minute pride in them, and would like to know I can reconstruct them in this new version.

Thanks for all your hard work Tene, you are showing fantastic skills here!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] barrytytnii:
I wanted this as well and managed to pull it off, you need to look for a softkeyapplet and install it, then just set the softkey to open up the exe file in the location you put (I copied the exe over and didn't install the cab file) I also changed the left softkey to open the applet to start composing a new sms message. Works great!

Having played around some more with this program, I think the only real fix that is needed is the ability to disable to virtual keyboard, especially when in landscape mode and if necessary, have the keyboard on top of the sms window and not push everything upwards. The composition space should be much higher too for more lines.

Also, the contacts with sms list would be much better is updated on the fly rather than having to exit the list then go back to it.

How about a default these where the colors are the opposite of those in the white theme and keep the font sizes and layouts. Black these is easier on the eyes but the fonts are too large and clumsy looking.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
By reading the documentation? :p Basically it's replacing some settings name by what works best for you. More info: http://www.pocketcm.com/customize-contact.php Really, when looking for information, look in the pocketcm website, search on the forum, most information are there, actually there is more doc about theming 0.16 than there was for 0.15 and previous.

Also to those who prefer previous version: stick with it, but please don't make this thread (about 0.16 and future) about past version. I clearly can imagine reasons to stay with previous (there are always reasons), but maybe it's not relevant to post it there. Also most of your issue are with theming, if you want to help feel free, I'd be more than happy to be able to focus on development and not theming, if you want to complaint, well feel free, in another thread ;)

Also I don't have skills to make theme, I have technical skill, development skills, but I'm not a graphic guy... what I have is enough patience, to at least try, I'm 100% sure that most of you could end up with something better. Also my constraints (making a theme that run with correct perf on QVGA, VGA and square devices) aren't the same as yours (make something you like and maybe share it).

People wanting to make it the default contact application: read the FAQ.

And last: breaking existing theme wasn't made for fun, it was made to allow better performance, and memory usage. It was also made to make a correct framework shared by applications (at least contact, ImageViewer and keyboard). I had to make a decision, and like any decision, it's sometime painful at first.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Have you informed TouchPal guy about it? I've looked into seems like a TouchPal issue to me. I'd be happy to make it works, but I fear I can't, it's up to them.

Anyway, nothing force you to use TouchPal inside PocketCM Contact.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sabestian:
No it doesn't :) I mean really.

When the SIP is active, the "send" button is just above it on the right side of the screen, and whatever I do, it won't work. Just like with 0.15.

The only way to send a text is to minimize PocketCM, then reopen it (that brings it up without SIP opened - just text of SMS and a "send" button in the bottom right corner). Then you can press it to send.

I think it may be due to the fact that TouchPal keyboard occupies more space on the screen - it's higher, perhaps it confuses PocketCM sending the "send" button higher than with "normal" SIPs? Perhaps the "send" button appears in a different place than the area you should be actually pressing? I hope I made myself clear...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AstronusX:
tene,

would it be faster if it put in folder instead of zip, that way it doesn't need to unzip to load it up. Maybe support both zip and folder format. Just my 2 cents
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WyldStar:
You can also do this by changing a value in the registry if you don't want to install stuff. With a regeditor navigate to

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSCONTACTS

Open 1, and change the string value to whatever contact program you want opened. For PocketCM, I think it would be

"\Program Files\PocketCM\PocketCM.exe"

with the quotes.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] barrytytnii:
Couple more things I've noticed

1. Contacts without a phone number are not listed, so those contacts I have with only an email or mailing address are left out

2. When deleting a contact, the confirmation prompt isn't clear, the yes and no buttons are but the message looks like code

3. When creating a new contact, after I click okay, I have to shut down pocketCM and relaunch it to view the new contact in the list, and sometimes I have to click on another list first and then go back to ALL CONTACT to see it in the list

these I've already mentioned:

4. Default country for addresses without a listed country is United States, which is not the case, should just be blank

5. No option to hide the soft keyboard when in landscape mode since I have a tytn II with a hard querty keyboard already, option should also be in portrait mode ease of viewing other messages

6. when using phone pad to search for contacts, theres no way to clear the numbers and at least 2 clicks are necessary to view all contacts again

7. SMS list is not automatically updated when new smss are recieved or sent, like the new contacts issue, I have to close pocketCM and relaunch to view the new messages in the thread or to simply view a new thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aih1977:
Off the subject

tene,

i need some help in creating a freestyl like launcher but that doesn't look exactly like the freestyl. Well you have the pocketcm which has the tab at the bottom which i would like to do and when you hold down one of the tabs a vertical tabs pop up almost like when you press down the right bottom button four more tabs pop up horizontally. pretty much i want it to be freestyl/cube/with a touch of pocketcm effects to it. also be able to close anything by just swiping your finger top of the screen down too. i have some drawings on how i would like it to look and feel and i can go more in detail later so please i am not a programmer so i need some help in this matter. i just want to apologize for writing this on here but tene you have already created 3 cool programs and i would like some help from you are anybody here that can bring this cool idea alive.

thank you,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
From my testing (on a single device), it doesn't make a big difference, however, feel free to measure ;)

Regarding Touchpal issue, I've sent them a mail, let see if we can get a fix. Because from my testing, it's something on their side, of course, I may be wrong, but without them involved, I can't do more.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] salahnajm:
Theme

Ok, I'm really bad at designs and know nothing about designing themes!! I still use v .15 because of the theme i have which i like. It's been 5 days (honestly) i'm trying to convert that theme to v.16 with only partial success. I'll upload what I have... i'll be surprised if anyone likes it! but what i hope for is that someone might use it to design a better theme :D .

( the background image is what i have as background on my ppc that's why i use it here, makes my phone prettier). Personally on v .15 it looks much nicer and i feel it works faster on v.15 !

I know that this theme has a lot of 'ugliness' such as the searchindex, some fonts, some backgrounds... but as i said i don't know how to make it better.

By the way the theme I have was Posted by: Insane on pocketcm.com (orange Glow), I hope he doesn't mind i used his theme.:D

ps: it's a big file, but i have pcm v.16 on my sd card along with the theme and it works fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KryptosXLayer2:
having a lot of minor issues with PocketCM and wanted to get some feedback.... first, what ELSE do i need to do to make the "settings.ini" file actually take - i've created it, modified the settings, uploaded it to the Program Files folder for PocketCM, restarted my device, and nothing changes.... still can't see contacts without phone numbers and still don't have English phonepad keys (don't need accents in English) even though i've changed those features in the "settings.ini" file....

also, lets get some definite answers as to how to apply themes here please.... i've heard the runaround both on the PocketCM site and here, and no one has really stated how to take a Zip (black, white, white marble, orange, etc), and APPLY it to the theme.... i've moved folders, extracted data, changed names, done tons of things everyone keeps going on about and STILL haven't come off the default WHITE theme for v0.16!

UPDATE - according to tene:

Press the phone button (bottom right) for 400 ms, stay presssed, move to option, choose "theme...", select which version

unfortunately, that doesn't work for the "white marble" theme that is AVAILABLE, but doesn't want to change to that theme - instead it goes to the default white theme....

looks like this will be a great program once it hits v1.0 at least! looking forward to seeing it stick around!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] king_dani:
could anybody please tell me how to change the skin to black please?

there is no option whatsoever in this version
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brockmo:
Has there been any word on when version 0.16 will be "officially" released in a cab file fixing some of the minor bugs? But mainly so we can easily set it as the default contact manager (click contacts on bottom right it goes to pocket cm, etc.). I know I can set this in registry, but its so much easier doing it via pocketcm :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greg3d:
Press the phone icon on the main screen, keep it pressed to expose the menu, slide your finger to the "options" button, which will drop down a menu. Click on "Theme", and select the theme you want.

Works just as it did in v.15 and earlier.