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[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Worth a try. I got till Sunday for my buyers remorse period. Hopefully we'll know the BL status before than. If it is unlockable, I'll return my HTC 10.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I really am... the tech seemed to know what he was talking about... at first he thought when I was talking to bootloaders I meant to change phone companies when I explain no its for root he specifically looked up where these phones are being routed out and told me that the Canadian version which is the version were getting has already been delivered and they already have root! I just wish somebody from Canada would chime in and say yes it's true
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Well as wishful the thinking i hope it's true. If it is I'll DEFINITELY get one sooner than later...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Chord_Hugo87:
carrier unlock is different than Bootloader unlock
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I explained that and he knows the difference... each carrier gets a specific code to unlock their phones for the people that's not what I talked to the tech about ....we were talking about obtaining root status from a bootloader unlock perspective. He said the bootloader should not be locked from Samsung... unless the company specifically asked for it like a AT&T specifically asks for it... T-Mobile does not specifically ask ..... I'm just quoting what he said. pick it apart any way you like

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They said the Note 5 was going to be locked...its not...they said MM woukd lock the bootloader and Root would NEVER EVER be achieved after our update and it was! Its possible and the truth is WE DONT KNOW until we get it....so it's a waiting game... in the meantime I'm just trying to think positive and hope for the best
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Well, John Legere DID say after the s7 was released that they were supposedly in talks with Samsung to unlock, but nothing ever happened. Maybe we'll get lucky, but i doubt it smh lol
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
Like I said in a different thread, I'm expecting a lock. But really hoping to be wrong so I can move on from the failed HTC 10.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] KillaHurtz:
HTC has been a failure since the HTC One line.....
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Lip service
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
It's not a terrible device, but constant radio issues have been plaguing me since from the start. Reluctant to jump on Band 12, losing all service in places the Note 5 and S7 Edge didn't, no polarization filter to be able to see the screen with sunglasses, and battery life only marginally better. The one saving grace is the fingerprint sensor. Works much better than the last two Sammy devices.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jdidtht:
HTC has been a failure since the sensation. Lol that phone left such a sour taste in my mouth that no matter how great htc gets, which is not even alittle, I'll never buy another htc again. Just because htc in general gets development doesn't make it a good device..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] galaxys:
I feel your pain about the HTC Sensation! But the HTC Nexus One was pretty cool!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
[MENTION=4862345]jdidtht[/MENTION], my 3 go to's have always been the Nexus devices, HTC, and Sammy. Sammy wins on battery, display and camera. HTC imo has better build quality, cleaner UI, and development is better (both aftermarket scene and how fast HTC pushes updates). Nexus is Nexus, specs are a tick under the flagships but to be on the bleeding edge and pure Android is why people choose them. I've owned every Nexus device, every Galaxy except for the S7, every Note, and all the M's(7-10). As much as I want the N7 if the BL is locked I will pass. I can tell myself I don't need root, but I haven't owned a device I never rooted. That's just me.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jdidtht:
I have owned all the notes, and many of the galaxys including the original, and a couple of nexus devices.. htc build quality is overrated. It's better because it's aluminum? Maybe to you. I watched Adam outlet disassemble a htc 10, and the interior was hilarious.. I personally think the cameras suck, I do not like the ui. My s7edge with no root is not really a big deal anymore. I miss unlimited tethering and ad block. That's it. It does everything else extremely well just lacks the unlimited tethering.. everything else is trivial
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
HTC Thunderbolt, total trash
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jdidtht:
Yea man complete trash.. They made some of thee worst devices android consumers had the displeasure to be stuck on for for 1 or 2 years.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
That was my last HTC until I got the One M9
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
The Nexus One was freakin BOSS... Loved that little phone....I still have it and power it up every now and again. Still works just fine....Running CM7 on it...lol.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] xManMythLegend:
Why even bother with an XDA forum for a locked unrootable device lol.

What a dissappointment. I'm addicted to the Spen but I will just get bored with a device with no root. Too many stupid quirks I need root to stop and I love what xposed modules allow you to do without the need for flashing different Roms.

Samsung has all but killed a hobby lol.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
One word.....exynos
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Silly question but how do we actually tell if it's unlocked when we get them?

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I've said this before if it is unreadable I will not be able to tolerate it and I'll have to take it back take the $50 charge for a restocking fee. Put $1,000 together and by the international unlocked version wait for it get it throw a T-Mobile Sims in it root it and move on from there. Even though I'll get root all still miss people like Jovy's work with Darth Stalker ROM

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Mines out on the truck now...out for delivery

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Amazon has Unlocked International for $980 ...no warranty and you can't order until August 31st
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
I believe the S7 lock was discovered when you pushed a radio or recovery that wasn't intended for the model. But don't quote me on that 100%.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
US Models, Samsung Pay=Locked Bootloader...end of discussion...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] darwinmach:
Yes, the bootloader will be locked.

https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/765358218180780032

Pretty sure the folks who will be receiving their Note 7 will be able to confirm that today or sometime in the upcoming week.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] suzook:
Why not just buy an international model? It includes all bands....correct??
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
well, you cant tell what bands it has until its actually released..plus, so many users prefer to "rent" their phones from their providers by paying 30-40 bucks a month, instead of coming up with almost 1000 dollars all at once to buy it outright,,
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] naruto.ninjakid:
You guys should consider the international note 7. It supports all of the T-Mobile bands. I couldn't live without root so I'm shooting for that.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
People are getting theirs but they're not trying to root them.... I wish somebody would try... to figure it out. Mines on the truck on the way for delivery ...still waiting... cf-auto-root has their site up and it ROOTS the international version...As we already know...they said try it on the T-Mobile see if it works or not. I don't know of any other way to figure out if the bootloader is unlocked. If it is I'll return it in 2 weeks because I got two weeks to return it...somIll play with it in the meantime take my $50 loss on a restocking fee and then I'll buy the international version which I know gets root ....but before I go through all that I just wanted to know if it is Rootable.. because when I talked to Samsung in the development department and they said it shouldn't be. The guy even told me that a few people in Canada have achieved root using the Snapdragon variant if that's the case then we should too ....but whether he's telling the truth or not is another story...

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I've had about 50 people tell me that the bootloaders locked on T-Mobile... the truth of the matter is we don't know it could be it could not be. We don't know until we try. I'm asking not for somebody professional opinion but I'm asking for somebody who has tried that actually has the phone that actually has a computer and that has actually tried to root it.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] naruto.ninjakid:
I don't think you have to root to see if the bootloader is unlocked. I think you go into download mode. Not really sure.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
The easiest way to tell is for someone to Odin something like a radio or whatever, and it should instantly fail in Odin
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
But I'd be careful doing that, who knows what trips Knox these days
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
and, remember, just because you can root a phone, that does NOT mean the bootloader is unlocked, which you need in order to be able to flash anything custom on the phone..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
This is true. But I was more than content with my S7 Edge, if only I could have rooted it to be able to install V4A and tweak a few other settings. Package Disabler Pro does a good job of freezing bloat, but root makes it that much easier.

If the Note 7 can in fact be rooted, the I'll likely jump over to it after the 21st, which is when my JOD renews for another 3 devices.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
as much as I have said in the past that I didnt care about rooting certain devices I had, after a month or 2 without root/unlocked bootloader, I get very bored with a phone, so I doubt I will ever buy another phone with a locked bootloader again..

I always liked Samsung phones, and have had the Note 1,2, and 4, along with S2, S3, s6 Edge, so I know what they are all about, but at this point of my life, I think its Nexus from here on out; My Nexus 6 has so many roms/tweaks to flash now, even 15 months after its release, that you can never get "bored" with it!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Like 50 people got their phones but nobody will check

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Samsung told me no and that the Snapdragon variant in Canada already has Root status... half the people that work at T-Mobile and Samsung don't even know what the bootloader as they think it means that you can't go to another company like a Sims lock
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
correct, thats why you never bother calling and asking them about anything...you'll always get better/more info on the internet than you will trying to call tmo or samdung..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] deeznutz1977:
I'll check when I get home in about 2 hours
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
All anyone has to do is boot into download mode and see if it says Qualcomm secure boot enabled and wrote protection enabled. You may also see Knox kernel lock.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
But didn't the S6 also have secure boot enabled, yet it was unlocked?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] deeznutz1977:
I did it doesn't say anything. It's usually in the top left corner
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Tekhd said this about the S7 and it was BL locked.

"QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE

SECURE DOWNLOAD: ENABLE

that’s perfectly normal… nothing to worry about…"
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Hmmm....can you screenshot it?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] deeznutz1977:
Can't screenshot do mode I'll get a pic
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Ughhhhhhhhhhh

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I have the International Version TWRP and SU.... remind comes I'm going to put TWRP on their flash Superuser turn off the reactivation lock and see what happens
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Should look similar to this...might have to flash something
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Will the S7 was not only bootloader locked but it was also encrypted so that whatever you flash had to have an authentic Samsung signature or would not go
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
Yes it did... That's why I'm saying be careful to those of you who plan to resell this device to someone at a later date with Knox tripped and broken Samsung pay.

I'd let someone else be the martyr before you test it!

I tripped Knox on a S7E trying to flash an unsigned kernel early on
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
If you want to root and flash back to stock Samsung pay still works even the Knox is tripped... I've had every NOTE there is and and Every Tab S .... rooted them all and sold them all with no problems
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
Knox didn't trip on the Note 5 until you flashed custom recovery. And once it did, there was a visible indicator that Knox Warranty was void.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
Are you sure? S7 Samsung pay doesn't work with Knox tripped
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
Android Pay will work with Knox tripped, Samsung Pay will not. Was tried extensively on the Note 5, and there was no way to get it back once you lost it.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Stopped into a vzw store to see theirs (we know their locked) TMO didn't have any out.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] deeznutz1977:
I know it's the new dl screen (blue)
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
You mean the s7? The s7 want unlocked, just rooting using a factory repair kernel signed by samsung...Knox checks the signature (sha256 encrypted hash) against Samsung's, and if it doesn't match it won't allow it to boot...that's for system and recovery partitions, and also the kernel ramdisk...any of those either unsigned or different signature and Knox doesn't allow the device to boot until you odin back the official firmware...change recovery? No boot. Change kernel? No boot. Modify system partition? No boot. This means even with engineering/repair bootloader (which, btw, is not optimised for daily driver use- horrible everything basically from a performance and battery standpoint) the best you get is root on the factory rom, no twrp, no nandroid backups, no unlimited tethering, no custom roms....MAYBE Xposed (folks are successfully running Xposed and Viper4A) and viper and adaway...but that's where it ends....so if you can't flash a custom rom what's even the point of having root? May be different for some folks, but for me, if i can't flash custom roms and kernels then there no point preordering when preorders only arrived a day ahead of time!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Hit the vol up
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I tripped it on my Note 5 when I flash my custom ROM. I flashed it back to stock to get an update while I was on stock Samsung pay work but then I reread it and put another custom ROM and now it doesn't work.... if you Samsung pay and it's that important I wouldn't risk it I personally don't use it so it wasn't an issue for me to lose it...thus I rerooted... for me having Xposed mods greenify Lucky Patcher viper4android potato clock AdAway and so many other things are worth it for me to keep ROOT!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Nevermind...was android pay....my fault...don't use them....so got them mixed

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We shouldn't even be going through all this it should be unlocked. This is CRAP
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
[MENTION=2718324]deeznutz1977[/MENTION] does it say Qualcomm SECUREBOOT?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
8 pages and No answer yet
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] deeznutz1977:
Yes

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I'll dig deeper when I get home. 3 more jobs. ( I cut grass)
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
This is gonna be the best or worst day of my life... I was less nervous when I got married and had kids because at least I knew what I was getting.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] ubigred:
It's locked. Get over it.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Because you say soo?

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Roll out
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
I think we're effed. Looks different from vzw BL, but now I'm 99% certain is locked as well. [MENTION=2718324]deeznutz1977[/MENTION], thx bro.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
At least waiting on UPS is giving me time to clean my Harley...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
I would not anticipate an unlocked bootloader. As [MENTION=320479]NotATreoFan[/MENTION] pointed out earlier, I think Samsung is now using one board for all US devices, which means we get the same at ATT and Verizon
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Anticipating and actually knowing or two different things though I'll talk to representatives from T-Mobile and Samsung I've been working on this for weeks but in the end there's nothing wrong with hoping for the best

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Are

..sorry hands were full...using ttt
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
you can see by the screenie posted its locked...question answered, end of story..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
XDA is a Root thread and Im here to find solutions...I do have $1000 invested and would like to know...Plus the countless thousands spent on Samsung devices that I have bought, owned...etc...This decision today affects me in that respect. Rooting is a HUGE Hobby of mine and I love it. Im also not going to give up...just waiting for an answer...waiting on my phone... and whatever the outcome...I need to know...I have to take it back to get International Version.. if thats the case.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jovy23:
Just to point something out... if the device was bootloader locked, then why would the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 7 have the OEM Unlock option as you can see from the pic below. It's there and i have already enabled it.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Thats not an answet...but if you think so
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] ndtemple417:
is it locked jovy?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] eduardmc:
Yeap. Just like my tmobile version Locked bootloader galaxy s7 edge. I also have it and enable.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Now that a Dev has their hands on the actual device lets see what happens. Thx [MENTION=4454815]jovy23[/MENTION]
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Thank you!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] omf05:
I might be wrong, but If i recall the s7 edge had the same option but it wasn't unlocked.

I would need to go get my s7 edge to verify it :(
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
dont bother; its locked; that setting in dev options has no effect on unlocking the bootloader on this phone..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] omf05:
exactly as I thought.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
All I want for Christmas is DarthStalker on Note 7
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
The S7 Edge had it too. Because of the encrypted/locked bootloader, enabling this option will only disable FRP.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Just have to find out if Jovy is going International...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
That's very true! If it's unlocked I'll get one tomorrow! Let me know what happens [MENTION=4454815]jovy23[/MENTION] but you may be right, no point have an oem unlock...should unlock then look again at download mode

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They COULD have included it in the rom for frp reasons, but oem unlock IS for the bootloader...i can't speak on the s7, since i have a note 5...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Thank you Rx and Jovy...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] omf05:
On the s7 Edge you can turn OEM Unlock, but the bootloader still doesn't unlock.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I really hope this works.... I don't care what people think but I'm partially disabled and I don't move around too good anymore after a bad accident so rooting for me means a lot... I read books and play with my Android devices...Its people like Jovy that puts huge smiles on my face... I love nothing more than the flash new stuff in and try it and have fun with it
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Amen....you should do some reading, follow a few guides, set up a Linux box on Ubuntu or mint and do some dev work...if you have the free time...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
With the S7, the only way we knew it was for sure locked was when the guy actually tried flashing a stock modified kernel to it. Everything else including what has been talked about in terms of what you see in the Download mode looked normal. TEKHD even thought it was unlocked at first.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Awesome :/ guess we'll see...I'd build a kernel right quick if osrc was available yet...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I used ti be an electrical engineer ansld was on a scaffold 30ft up and hit with high voltage for 2 minutes...got stuck and fell.. it took me years to get where I am now. But anyways thank you for that and I just actually got a few books on Android development and such about the crack them when I get some free time this week...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] tnick84:
In I'm trying to attach a pic of download mode but tapatalk seems to be having issues

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I'm trying to attach a pic of download mode but tapatalk seems to be having issues
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
We won't REALLY have answers until someone tries to flash a kernel tar in odin....

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Or a supersu pkg
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bajasur:
This has allegedly worked on other devices in the last year, try at your own risk...

Source: https://thebroodle.com/android/how-to-check-your-bootloader-is-locked-or-unlocked/

Edit: try on nexus 6p and dialer code doesn't work...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
I have Odin..Twrp and SU zip ready and am willing...just waiting for UPS..at this point does not look good..have to leave for in less than an hour.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jaxenroth:
Saw that, tried on HTC but no go. Tried on a vzw S6 and TMO s7, no go. Doesn't work.