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[General Questions and Answers] bandario:
I've just sold my Cat S60. Probably would have kept it if it had root but that's the way the cookie crumbles. It was in pretty much as-new condition so I did ok, but still lose out on a couple of hundred dollars.

I figure if I'm going to have an unrooted phone, it may as well have decent specs and a great camera so I bought a galaxy S7 Active. I also didn't trust the waterproofing of the S60 for **** so I am anxiously awaiting my S7 active so that I can check the build date...fingers crossed. Some genius has already got temporary root working on the active so I think it's a better horse to back.

I wish you gentlemen all the best in this quest. I will absolutely miss the solid build quality and feel in the hand of the S60; they are a fine piece of hardware and I was extremely proud to own one. A damn shame that CAT and Bullit won't come to the party; these things would be absolutely mind-blowing with an unlocked bootloader and would almost certainly get a much larger following. I can't even imagine how good the battery life would be with a custom kernel and a few ROM tweaks by the pros.

So long, and good luck.
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
Does anyone know how to implement this?

Really itching to get root on this phone. So tired of the ads more than anything else.
[General Questions and Answers] mcferson:
I've tried the waterproof capabality and it's really ok. i've also tried its unbreakable cap' and other : still real. REALLY real. In other hand, one fall for the so famous selfsaid resistant XPeria Z3 and it remain no so ok. And lots of problem after little bath in 5cm of clear water.

However the CAT S60 suffer some slowness, but it's not a great problem.
[General Questions and Answers] McGuu:
December Update recieved

I've installed an OTA Update Moments ago.

No release notes.

Runs well untill now

The camera trigger sound is now corresponding to the music loudness.

So I was able to disable it.

Most important:

The QuadRooter vulnerability "CVE-2016-2504" is fixed.

(Tested with QuadRooter By CheckPoint, like willempretorius)

So if that is a way to get that cool phone rooted, don't install the Update!

Me, just hopefull that ther will be an other way for root soon :fingers-crossed:

Edit:

The update has some strange behaviours:

Sometimes the "App Tolbox" shows "Downloading Hiking Trails" in the Notification Center.

Neither i have Hiking Trails, nor have i told the App to download something.

Also it seems that the touchscreen is just a little bit more sensitiv - sometimes annoying

Also nice to know:

The S60 supports rSAP!

I was pleasantly surprised :)
[General Questions and Answers] shoons:
Looking to root the CAT S60 as well.

Primarily for ad blocking.

Does anyone know how reputable Kidapso is? They offer "AutoRoot Tools" and claim it works with the S60. Haven't found any mention of this on these forums yet.
[General Questions and Answers] RafaelAguiar:
Hi, im getting crazy, i have a neighbor that has a cat s60, i set up a fast created google account (i dont remember the account)

and he reset the cellphone, and now we can use the cell because we dont remember the account

please help!

thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
well looks like this phone is never getting rooted.
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
same here, waiting root :)
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
This is the only place I've ever found anyone with the same phone as me so I'll post this here. My camera has gone to hell. It does some weird gain-increase effect on shadows in dark-medium lit photos. Bright photos and HDR, totally fine, but non HDR photos in medium to dark lighting have seriously weird patterns where shadows should be, and when you inspect the picture closely it looks like the phone is trying to apply some weird gain effect to the shadows to create crappy after-effects HDR or something.

I've emailed CAT several times, they're giving me the runaround typical "reset your phone, restart it, clear app data, make sure you're on the latest build". I think I've exhausted their options so hopefully next step is a replacement phone. I'm also HIGHLY irritated that the speaker grille feels like it was stuck on with the cheapest soft adhesive they could find. So much peeling, cracking, tearing.
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
hi TheNetwork, same here problem with camera, weird stuff.. here is example (not perfect one) https://goo.gl/i2smz0

Seems that like he trying to get more light, but in bad way...

So this is only in low light environment, when there is enough light, pictures are fine..

What do you think to get more of us with this kind of problem and together to contact them?
[General Questions and Answers] McGuu:
Camera is down

Mine too :crying:

First i realized the "shadows" and some kind of light "fringe" of dark motives.

Also some neon colors seem to be "pixelated".

Now the camera is not usable outdoors.

It seems that the cold temperatures around 0°C hurt the camera. I'm just getting colored stripes.

Front camera works well.

Good thing, i got the CAT in winter so i realized it in time.
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
sad to hear, i just tested camera on -11 and seems that little slow focus, but work ok when have enough light...

here is one more example of what he doing (it`s screenshot from video):

https://s24.postimg.org/6mhqj31vp/video.png

seems that he try to add some AI light :D

so, did someone do complaint where they bought it?
[General Questions and Answers] bandario:
Water damage. These things are so, so far from waterproof. SD card cover leaks like a sock full of water.
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
that is not my case, i even wash him proper with "water gun" and he pass fine that kind of test, even i did not switch underwater mode...

btw: i got answer from them about camera:

if that is software like i think and they said, so let`s back to root this device? :)
[General Questions and Answers] copabuse:
Is there no way to root this device?

I need to remove google and all the other bloatware crap from this phone and also deactivate the camera shutter sound.
[General Questions and Answers] Zork13:
A root is definately needed for this device. The GUI is so ugly.
[General Questions and Answers] iphoneus:
Cat S60 camera and battery issues

I'm glad I'm not the only with problems....my 3rd S60 is being delivered tomorrow.! Battery issues is the main concern (12 hrs and it's down to 20%) but camera issues too...iv been suffering with poor picture quality to the point that highlights in an image are so blown out that they look like they have been tippexed. Camera flash stopped working the other day....and is now greyed out and can't be selected no matter what I do. Thankfully this was purchased from Amazon and they do a next day swap out....Cat want it back each time and are quoting a lead time of 21 days for repair. Anyone else had any similar issues?
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
i was have couple times battery issue, but it`s not problem with batter in my case, some applications was eating the battery.
[General Questions and Answers] dicaripolisi:
im waiting for Heros who can rooting s60 cat. cheers master!
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
Anyone try this?

http://rootoreviews.com/root-Cat-S60-install-twrp-custom-recovery

i don`t think it will work, but who knows... :D
[General Questions and Answers] drviver:
update

I wrote an email to the Developers of the S60 and made them share the GPL Source code with the public.

https [:] //www[dot]myqnapcloud.com/smartshare/69fh7iml4l6p700t3v2vzb6z_6CTDrVj

Maybe there is someone out there, who is able to build a custom ROM out of it.

Sorry for the bad format of the link, but I can't post it in a readable format, cause the spam prevention system, blocks it :crying:
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
i cannot open address, loading constant ... :/
[General Questions and Answers] dicaripolisi:
kernel https://a42.myqnapcloud.com/share.cgi?tunnel_agent_id=57cd2cfd5b5d465d6d3bef3b&ssid=0BRAnQd&access_token=2.pQysMLJzGOjDHoZpIHrfX7kXlgUAnU2iu9ViDErh.1485772152&filename=kernel.7z&fid=0BRAnQd&path=%2F&openfolder=forcedownload

GPL https://a42.myqnapcloud.com/share.cgi?tunnel_agent_id=57cd2cfd5b5d465d6d3bef3b&ssid=0BRAnQd&access_token=2.pQysMLJzGOjDHoZpIHrfX7kXlgUAnU2iu9ViDErh.1485772152&filename=gpl_source.tgz&fid=0BRAnQd&path=%2F&openfolder=forcedownload
[General Questions and Answers] vulkanxxv:
I have a lot of problems with mine...

Reboot during a starting phone call

Overheat randomly

Battery drain randomly

Continuous hanging and back to lock screen, when unlock found the app in the same position left (this mean that is not the app the hang reason)

Continuous up/down gsm signal.

If you add there is no possibility to root it...

I'm going back to Samsung or Sony
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
My phone was returned in I think just over a week from the day I sent it for repair.

---------- Post added at 09:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 PM ----------

Fake website. Anything that claims to root this phone is. Don't do it.
[General Questions and Answers] vmicovic:
still cannot get it, can you reupload somewhere?
[General Questions and Answers] Chuggers:
Try these links

GPL_Source

https://www.myqnapcloud.com/smartshare/69fh7iml4l6p700t3v2vzb6z_6Yj8JOR

Kernel

https://www.myqnapcloud.com/smartshare/69fh7iml4l6p700t3v2vzb6z_6x848pk
[General Questions and Answers] Nicolbol:
I'm very happy with the CAT S60, but Bullit's support also ditched any question about updates, rooting and any other form of customization.

As a private user, I could deal with it, but the fact is, there are business opportunities with customizable ruggedized devices.

I'd lend one S60 to whomever has the experience and skills to actually port Lineage to it. And (s)he could even keep it if the job gets well done.

A cash bonus could even be in order if :

- The port is well maintained for at least 2 years

- The FLIR related apps and drivers can still be integrated to the custom ROM

- The necessary patches would be open-sourced and pulled into Lineage's tree

- The install process (including fetching FLIR binaries from a vanilla ROM and merging to / installing over) is automated and/or well documented

- The person doing the job can provide my company with a service invoice
[General Questions and Answers] bandario:
I realise you probably chose this device because you need the thermal imaging but IMO you would be much better served choosing a better quality device and issuing FLIR ONE units to your staff.

The CAT S60 has turned out to be an absolute lemon on every front; we were all hoodwinked by their flashy marketing campaign but once the dust settled the truth has finally hit home: CAT took a mid-range chinese handset and jammed it in a nice looking rugged case. There are SO many issues with these things. Some people got lucky, but overall they are an absolute lemon.
[General Questions and Answers] copabuse:
We knew that. Almsot all mobile phones come from China AND have issues, so what?

My CAT S60 is the best phone i could ever get. It's THE surivial phone, in case the world goes to crap... (And before You assume anything: No, i'm not getting paid for saying that)

Thermal $ucks way to hard on this one, but it's better then nothing. Everythign else works as intended (atleast for me)

Also: After disabling most of the Google and bloatware crap (without rooting it, how so?), the battery holds ages.

I don't know about You guys, but filming for 10 minutes straight didn't discharged my phone completely (Not like with my old phone which is a HTC One S = I also disabled it's most redundant apps and features)

Anyways, any news or updates regarding the root?
[General Questions and Answers] justplainguy:
second sim disabled

Just unboxed brand new s60 in south Africa, only to find the second sim is disabled. WTF. it seems the network operator that sold the phone is insisting I buy data from them.

Assuming this requires a rooting, is there any progress on this?

is there another way to enable this second sim?
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
I'm sorry you feel that way because myself and many others find this phone to be magnitudes more stable than any other android phone.
[General Questions and Answers] Chuggers:
That is a right pain. I don't think there is a way to do that,
[General Questions and Answers] Semseddin:
Hi everyone,

Is there any firmware available for this device ? Apparently, there are two variants of S60

1- USA and LATAM model ( made for latin america and North America )

2- Chinese and Europe variant ( supports 3G and 4g bands of european networks )

I have a latam device in Turkey and i can't seem to connect to 3G networks using 2100mhz band. It is a big issue. I would try to cross flash firmware of China variant to Latam device to see if it fixes the issue.

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] Chuggers:
Hi

The firmware is not the issue here, there 2 H/W variants on the S60, they both used the same firmware but as stated different H/W

1- USA and LATAM model ( made for latin American and North America )

2- Chinese and Europe variant ( supports 3G and 4g bands of European networks )

Where did you get your device from???

Have tried to contact catphones.com for support.
[General Questions and Answers] Semseddin:
It is irrevelant where i got the device. I get a lot of devices from many places around the world. Contacted cat support and asked for the firmware. Doubt if they would provide any hand about it.. Still worth a shot. In the meantime, i am searching for firmware for the device, i am positive it is just the same hardware for both variants but marked as different variants for different regions with different firmwares. Btw i have both devices at the moment. I can experiment stuff on them,just need firmware in case of any failure.
[General Questions and Answers] Chuggers:
I agree what you saying, I know that it's different H/W for different variants this because there are different bands for different variants. So the Latam variants supports the following bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17 LTE and Euro supports 1, 3, 7, 8, 20. This means the antennas are different making the device having split H/W.

If you have contacted CAT phones for support in firmware lets hope you get the firmware. Then people should be able to root the device
[General Questions and Answers] Semseddin:
There are 2 unique options in stock recovery, maybe they can fix my issue.

1- set cid from sdcard

2- update apn from sdcard
[General Questions and Answers] bandario:
Then you got lucky. If you read the replies to this very thread, or poke your head in on androidforums or the reddit CatS60 forum you will see many users who's phones continue to do many or all of the following:

1) Weird camera artifacts/ quality issues

2) Delaminating speaker grills

3) Charge port covers disintegrating

4) Getting hot and burning through battery in a couple of hours with no reasonable explanation

5) random reboots multiple times per day

6)Not actually waterproof AT ALL due to total failure of rear rubber seal.

7)Being a general turd.

If you live in the country you purchased it from, no problem. You can just keep sending your handset back so that CAT can replace it - I'm sure they factored in a huge number of returns and could probably afford 3 returns per handset before they lose any real money.

If you are one of the unlucky people who bought the handset from overseas because it wasn't released locally, you are looking at ENORMOUS personal cost to keep doing this as they are uninterested in covering return postage in spite of their own stuff ups.

If you are in the market for a cheap chinese handset, there are MUCH better options out there, even in the rugged realm and for a price that would be reasonable to charge for this level of performance Eg. Ulefone Armor, BV6000, BV7000 to name a few, purely of the rugged variety. With the cat, you are paying an extra USD$400 for the brand name and a thermal camera, meaning unless you absolutely need the thermal camera there is no reason to pay this much as you are still getting a crappy Chinaphone that behaves like a sick dog.

Can't believe I fell for it, I should have known better. Rest assured this company will never see another dollar from me, and I used to recommend their boots and safety gear to our new recruits as well.
[General Questions and Answers] CDMCCDMC:
Well i'm the lucky one then,lol!

1) in low light, camera is crap

2) still on there tight

3) solid as a rock (in online reviews they all look like they are broken for some reason, but on my phone they are fine and not flimsy)

4) battery lasts for me 2-3days (lost 30% in a day when was using messanger non stop with 4G always on)

5) never randomly rebooted

6) was in a lake, underwater. still works just fine.

7) meh, its okay.

the only two things i hate about it, is that the camera in low light is bad and as far as i know, its not yet rootable? other than that, its a good brick. well at least the one i have. probably got lucky...
[General Questions and Answers] Chuggers:
Looking at this option on my phone I have no understanding what that does. Have asked CAT support what that option does?
[General Questions and Answers] Semseddin:
I got a reply from their support rep that those settings were to help to root the device but they couldn't provide how to do it. Obviously their support team is incompetent and insufficient. :eek:
[General Questions and Answers] CDMCCDMC:
so trying to root this CAT is not possible?
[General Questions and Answers] Semseddin:
Sure it is possible and it should be easy to do but you don't have firmware at hand if things go bad. That is a bummer.
[General Questions and Answers] CDMCCDMC:
isn't it possible to make a rip of the existing firmware?
[General Questions and Answers] Shaeto:
did someone catch ota update links using adb logcat ?
[General Questions and Answers] e=mc cached:
0

SystemUpdateTask: starting download of --- I can't post links. but I have the link for the download.
[General Questions and Answers] garou_umbra_warrior:
im also very interested in this.i noticed that in the stock recovery there is an option to mount system..maybe that is helpful
[General Questions and Answers] robertut:
It would be so good to have a Sailfish OS rom for this device.
[General Questions and Answers] garou_umbra_warrior:
No automatic rooting software works with this phone.
[General Questions and Answers] TheNetwork:
Does anyone have issues with their S60 not connecting to LTE on AT&T? I tried messing with different AT&T APNs, and nothing even gets a data connection other than the stock APN that the phone gets from the SIM card, and that seems to be limited to H+. My SIM card is definitely LTE compatible.

Any ideas?
[General Questions and Answers] robertut:
Here's the OTA update ZIP for CAT S60:

https://android.clients.google.com/.../966e48f13fa7b7dda2e9ccbedd571b41ebe2f76c.zip

(thanks to [MENTION=8161553]e=mc cached[/MENTION] for the link)

Looks like there's the whole system partition image in it, also a system update image, boot image, recovery image, splash image etc. I think this should be able to restore the phone to factory state if root or other rom bricks it, but is there some odin-like program to load the zip file to the device somehow?

Some metadata: CatS60:6.0.1/MMB29M/LTE_S0201121.0_S60_0.028.00
[General Questions and Answers] MarTinCzeK:
hello all!

if this is true update/repair image we can try to:

- install adb "pack" onto our pc

- plug in cat s60 via usb

- select and activate USB debugging option in system/development menu

- use in PC command prompt:

adb sideload 'name of update.zip'

*'name of update.zip'=any leaked OTA / OEM update filename

Good Luck

PS we will need also TWRP but there is important help from anyone established developer here who would be kindly that good and open that leaked OTA udpate to see proper directories/partition sizes or proper layout to get recovery freedom!
[General Questions and Answers] robertut:
This is indeed true update. Straight from android official servers.
[General Questions and Answers] CDMCCDMC:
great news so far, i hope someone can manage to root this darn CAT,lol!
[General Questions and Answers] slimbobaggins:
Been using mine on AT&T GoPhone since day one with no issues. LTE is very snappy.
[General Questions and Answers] Shaeto:
unfortunately there is only rom patches.. it is (almost) not possible to restore patch to original rom, mb if we can catch all other OTA links - i received at least 3 updates after first boot
[General Questions and Answers] Leo bête à part:
Hi everybody, I have this nice S60 for 3 weeks now, and it's all fine for me;

Like every one here, if it can be rooted it will be much more mine.

Today I've found this : http://root-tutorials.org/cat-s60

Did anyone try this ? Or is it another scam site ?

The guy says that he found this on xda, but I doubt of it ...
[General Questions and Answers] garou_umbra_warrior:
It must be fake..Will not try it as I already know there is no custom recovery for the s60 and it's bootloader is locked
[General Questions and Answers] CDMCCDMC:
yea, if you google "root Cat S60" everything you see in the search is fake, unless its on XDA. still waiting for someone to root this thing, hell, im gonna buy a beer to who ever does!
[General Questions and Answers] garou_umbra_warrior:
I will also..
[General Questions and Answers] Leo bête à part:
Thanks ....

Still waiting for buying a beer if root will arrive one day ...
[General Questions and Answers] drviver:
Several Options

So:

-Boot can't probably be flashed, it is compiled completely locked (fastboot, other options unknown(qfill, etc.)

-fastboot getprop all (works)

-no easy root exploits are available (checked all exploits until 2015) (Security Patch November)

-Runs:

--MSM9852

--lk (Kernel)

-no auto root tool

-no stock rom

-we have several ota updates (doesn't help)

-sideloads get signature checked so dead end there (no possible bypass)

So what I currently do is search in for an exploit in the source code, race conditions etc.

But as far as I know: This is one of the most secure android phones ever (Maybe because before that I only had Samsung )

We really need that root, freeeeedooooommm
[General Questions and Answers] garou_umbra_warrior:
it also seems to be encrypted in the storage or so it says.It seems airtight enough but i have to say if they hadnt relied on the google stuff but made a custom stable and privacy based rom , this phone would be one of the best all around.
[General Questions and Answers] drviver:
Kernel Files

Can someone who downloaded the sources reupload them, cause bullitt took them down.

Cause I would like to recompile them, especially the kernel, even though I am not even sure they gave me the correct files, because they were false pre-configured, but whatever give it a chance

Secret code: #02# (für Dialer)
[General Questions and Answers] slimbobaggins:
I just got a notice to upgrade the software on my S60. I guess Bullitt must have found another exploit they want to lock down.
[General Questions and Answers] drviver:
On the track

Is there a way to find out what exploit it is, so I get like a feedback for where to search.
[General Questions and Answers] slimbobaggins:
The notification just says "important security updates"
[General Questions and Answers] drviver:
Is it possible for you to get the download url with logcat?
[General Questions and Answers] slimbobaggins:
If you can point me towards directions on how to do it. Im not knowledgeable about this stuff.

Since it seems it downloaded the update on the sneak, I may not be able to get the url now anyways, but I'll try.

For what its worth, I ended up powering my phone off and back on earlier, and it didn't install the update, but is no longer requesting I install it. I don't even dare have it check for an update though.

Get me some info on how to get the URL with logcat and I'll try to get to it this weekend.