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[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
Hey, you're preaching to the choir here bro; I don't agree with the BS policies that most of these companies try to enforce, that's why I stopped buying Samsung phones for myself...but, as far as the "1%" of people who mess with their phones' security, if Samsung could eliminate even that small amount, they see it as money saved for them..you're right, their big push now a days, aside from trying to copy everything Apple does, is to make Samsung Pay the dominant force if the mobile financial arena, and why not, since they get a percentage of EVERY transaction that you use Samsung Pay for..

Most carriers, if you are nice and polite, and don't act like a jerk, will be good to you about replacing/repairing a rooted phone; I never had much of a problem with ATT or TMobile, when it came to getting a warranty replacement on a rooted phone; however, Verizon is the phucking WORST one when it comes to that...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] raw2000j:
long as they take it back my job is done :)
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Ry&Owley:
Does it really cost millions of dollars to shave some epoxy? I mean I've seen horizontal milling machines that have the precision to do it Be theyre 10,000 tops. Where's the real expense?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
Sorta true, sorta not true... I remember I was able to reset knox counter with Triangle away on my S4 Years back... I haven't heard of it being done since but it did work when I did it....
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] DionWhite33:
Me neither...I even sent my Rooted 2014 Note 10.1 in for a new battery. It was shipped out with a bad one. And root didn't break the battery...I have had it rooted ober a year and NO issues... sometimes there's issues that are not caused by root. And out of the dozens of times I've rooted in the hundreds of things I flashed I've never broke or bricked any device

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Can you tell me.....How many? Or a percentage? Of the Root community that had to return "Bricked" devices? Since you claim the number is astronomical I was just wondering what your facts come from?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
boy, Triangle away brings back alot of memories..

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please show me where I said the number was "astronomical"...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
So that makes it completely true. Seemed kind of pointless to bring up triangle away when discussing current devices. It hasnt worked since 4.3.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
I am just surprised at the amount of people that were even thinking this phone would be unlocked after the blow up of the S7 having the locked bootloader.

Root may or may not come in some fashion but anyone who must have root and or want to flash custom files should not consider Samsung as option any more. The International versions may not even be an option before long it sounds like.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
Note 7 forums are all dead lol. They might as well close them.

I'm good. 850 for a phone and I can't do anything with it. Yeah right. I love samsung, not that much.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] raw2000j:
Thank god I found poweramp alpha version my music rocks with bluetooth in car and headphones and also with wired.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
It's not shaving it, it's duplicating it that's hard i think....i honestly don't know the exact exact specifics much more than i said, except that I'm SURE the Israeli company who cracked the infamous iPhone made a pretty penny...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] turilo:
So anyone confirm the Canadian note 7 is locked yet?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] mike28:
Where did you find it sounds interesting
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
My point being that it has been done in the past so it is possible for it to be done again.... not saying it will but it can be...But yes it hasn't been done in forever ...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Lol okay thanks, with that logic though anything is possible simply because it was once possible. But living in the now, I wouldn't bet a 900 dollar device on that mindset.

Ill just accept the fact that if it does happen it won't be any time soon, then again Im not one of those glass half full folks that pre ordered hoping the devs would pull a rabbit out their arse. I'll be fine tinkering with my tablet if i get the itch and enjoying my phone as is.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
Trust me dude I'm right there with you... I have no intention of tinkering with my phone at all... I'm good as is.... I've been very happy the past few days with the phone as is, I see no reason to do anything to it other than use it the way it was sent to me. Okay so I used Package Disabler Pro on some stuff but that's it.

This is the longest I've gone (2 days) in years without rooting and I'm good.

Heck I remember when I got my Note 4 and I sat in the TMO store with my laptop and rooted it right there while my girlfriend was finishing up getting her phone. The TMO guy just smiled..He knew what was up...lol
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] raw2000j:
Here it is https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3paxfr6rrkr1qa/powerampalphav3.apk?dl=0

go crazy make sure you turn on 24 bit in settings so it can sound clear like viper
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jason504:
No way I phone sucks. Boring and plain. Also their phones look the same for 5 years. I hate their software.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] mike28:
Thank you very much
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] raw2000j:
np enjoy
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
Put a reminder in your calendar 30 days from now, and look at this post then, and see if you feel the same way..

Just sayin'.........
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] raw2000j:
i just miss viper4android and changing mixerpaths to increase volume I dont care bout anything else
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
Sure, why not...lol
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] louforgiveno:
The S4 like the Note 3 did not have the hardware required for "true" knox and that is why the exploit worked. This of course is no longer the case.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
Everyone...let's all return the Note 7...let's make a statement and have it be heard with our wallets.

All mine (all 3) are going back.

Powered by: Octa Core Exynos + 6820HK
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] southphillysean:
Your point?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
This whole subject was already beaten to death when the S7 came out. You either will keep it or return it but returning it isn't going to make a bit of difference to Samsung. The numbers of people who won't buy it because it is locked down is nothing in the big picture.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
Yes I know...unfortunately true.

Apple (iPhone) is a prime example of that.

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Really?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] louforgiveno:
My guess is that they don't deduct returns from their "sales" figures.......

Shareholders wouldn't even flinch
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
True.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] southphillysean:
Waste of space.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] jazzmachine:
Probably right WRT N7 / Samsung returns. Shareholders might flinch at TMO's upcoming plan changes though: http://arstechnica.com/information-...ans-and-imposes-new-limits-on-unlimited-data/

Regarding the... importance(?) of root: Particularly as mobile tech becomes increasingly powerful, how is a "smartphone" not an extremely portable computer? I personally would never buy any computer that not only prohibited administrative access but came preloaded with various degrees of unremovable "spyware". I may or may not install a custom ROM on a phone just as I may or may not install a Linux distro on a computer preloaded with Windows, but there's simply no chance that I'd pay top dollar for hardware that denied me the option to do so.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here :cool: I've just been keeping an eye on this forum and feel that my philosophy is pretty reasonable and hopefully on topic with where this post has gone. I do hope that everyone who does get a Note 7 really enjoys it!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bigmase23:
Only a matter of time, freeza got the sprint variant rooted and installed xposed
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
Why can't we just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader on T variants?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bigmase23:
If it will flash it'll work
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
My thoughts exactly
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] RaymondPJR:
Do I dare to smile! I can do without custom ROMs, but no root will be difficult!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] baddogdave:
OEM Unlock?

Don't know if this will help but found this under developer options, the usual way. (tapping build number under general management).
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] smile_ppl:
OEM Unlock will not work
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] sIpInWiT mYdRoId:
Holy lord i was just reading through these comments and this is actually funny to me cause its been so long now & i remember the day you made the post that you did that. I've never communicated with you before, at the moment dont even know your screen name lol, but i seriously remember you posting that you were rooting your phone on your laptop waiting for your girl in the store or something haha!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] VeNuMuS:
Custom roms will still be a tough thing to do as the bootloader remains locked and only root was achieved.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
One would wonder why would it not be more consumer savvy to just wait until the device is released before hopping on the hype train to be ultimately disappointed by where it goes. This isn't a surprise in the least.

People wanting to start petitions and what not, first world problems at its best.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] bigmase23:
Thanks for the clarification Gusbro! Haha
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
TL; DR

Save the soap box speech. It was a rhetorical question. You already got your last thread closed. Let's not poison this one.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
I would try to explain the "Problematic caller" to him/her but I don't think it would matter...lol
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] chronos7:
Where can I find the root instructions for the 930t?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] ewells38:
AMEN to this, well said....

If i'm going to pay upwards of $900 for a phone outright, Then I should be able to modify the device

how I see fit

(as I OWN the device).

I just can't justify spending that kind of cash for a device for which I don't have control over (as in this case, technically you don't really OWN your device if the manufacturer/carrier dictates what you can and can't do with the device) I agree, OUR voices can make a difference. I too am from the old school of flashing ROMs and yes, it can become a bit boring and challenging concerning the different things some DEVs do with their ROMS. But I wan't the ability to make that decision

myself

, NOT Samsung or the Carrier (especially if i'm paying upwards of $900 for the device)

I may be holding out for the Note 8 (hopefully Samsung won't make the same mistake)
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] SBERG117:
All High end Samsung Phones, for that matter all in general, in the US will be locked from this point forward....It's just the way it is now... If you're not happy with it you have many other options of phones to buy...Enjoy whatever you use.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
That's the thing about it that a lot of folks aren't getting. As mobile payments become more lucrative this is the path OEMs are taking.

I get wanting root, I get wanting Roms. What I don't get is buying the device and after the fact griping about how locked down it is. The only voice that matters is that of the green back. Stop buying the devices. Simple as that.

You pre order it, you help make it a very successful launch, then expect them to "fix their mistakes with the next Note". Lol if they make Buku bucks on this one, how do you expect them to remedy a "mistake".

Also the people calling CSRs asking about bootloaders are hilarious. Next time I try to jailbreak an Apple device I'm going to walk into an Apple store and ask one of the geniuses what they think the best method is.

Come on guys, you took the time to make an XDA account, you're smarter than that.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] wase4711:
Obviously, alot of people are not smarter than "that"..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Hang around you might find them here if they ever come into existence.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] thegameksk:
Where was this announced? I didn't see anything in the Sprint forums.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
Please. It's OK we know you can't handle it. On another note, have you been keeping up with the root situation?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Im sure all the people that could stand your wall of text actually hit thanks on it. Go back and count em to be sure

Im not your friend or even an acquaintance, find someone else to stir up crap with. Happy Sunday!
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
For the record I wouldn't want to be your friend so no worries there. This is xda developers, let alone a thread about a topic regarding an unlocked bootloader (in general), but since you're perfectly fine with a locked bootloader, to each to his own.

The wall of text was to provide valid reasoning and facts to debunk the confusion so many have had as to why....well you figure it out. It must be hard to be faced with valid facts eh? Apparently it is. Have fun with your Note 7. SMH
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Ah nothing like a good block to end trolly background noise
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] ArioK13:
Uhhh i want root. Will not buy the next note 8 & upwards until bootloader is unlocked & can be rooted. I do it to save all my apps data info, block stupid ads that i dont want to waste time looking at, waste my data even tho i got unlimited, want to customize to my own liking, smh i dont care for sampay android pay or what ever as one can pay normally by login, calling, use of debit, paying cash etc.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
So one phone doesnt have the customization you want so you are opting to buy a different phone.

Careful fella, that type of common sense level headed consumer minded thinking is scarce around these parts.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] iunlock:
There's denial written all over your responses so far, because you have yet to provide any valid reasoning whereas I have with facts that are inarguable.

You can count on one thing in that most people here on xda developers. <- That's developers btw, are more for wanting an unlocked bootloader than being comfortable with a $1000 device that is locked...ie...those with your content mindset.

The truth is the truth.

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We're with you....I know it sucks. Just hope for that leaked engineering firmware to be released some how some way....then we'll be on the road again with having the freedom we all have enjoyed so far.

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You're absolutely right and for those who are completely content with a locked device are just that....a scarce group of those that is surprising to be found on xda developers.

That's why those with common sense will be opting for the international (F) variant. That's an International Note 7 btw just in case you didn't know.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] suzook:
I keep hearing about this leaked eng fw. Is anyone thinking it's not available?
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
No leaked one for Tmo, root involves using the sprint software, freezing some Sprint apps and putting in your Tmo apn.

Last I looked in the root thread, volte and wifi call still do not work with this method. If you flash anything it will need to be done in flash fire.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Rx8Driver:
I have a theory on how to build a Frankenstein P/T variant userdebug kernel that should work with T-mo firmware and allow volte/wfc but i need to grab a device first before i can test... I've been holding out waiting to see what would happen, but apparently I'll need to get involved as this elusive t-variant engboot doesn't seem to be materializing....

The tricky part is preserving Samsung's signature...
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] ArioK13:
Yeah pretty much. There is more that i do with my rooted phone just so used to being rooted that i just dont think about it anymore. I used to be an iPhone lover but don't like being locked down. Cant save files such as music, movies, pdf files & edit them, share a file with someone without plugging the iPhone and wiping it or download a file on the go. I just like to tinker and use certain apps such as cf. Lumens, dark pro, nandroid backup, titanium backup, edit my mixer.path file debloat my phone, kill running apps, make use of my sd card to its fullest, and just do small modifications to my phone to make it run how i like it to run but like i said, backup and copy my data from all applications since only way to backup that type of data is by being rooted on Samsung anyways. I've jailbroken my iPhone's and got tired of playing catch up before jumping on Samsung since the S2 age cause it was root friendly and kept buying Samsung (S2, S3, S4, S5, Note 3, Note 4 & now with my Note 7). I don't use custom roms like before and stay with stock but rooted but do like my option to use my exposed with wanam to turn off or on certain features such as loud warning, colors etc. If i feel like going into Nexus or LG for root cause my favorite phone (note series) wont be rooted friendly anymore than I will be moving on to some other phone, its just my taste of being able to do a bit more with a device that I work so hard to purchase and use and tweak to my taste, they may be small mods or tweaks but sure make a big difference in usage. I will say this, I will never go back to apple due to being a closed phone/device but others like that type of device but not me anymore. I like a little freedom to do what i want to it to make it my own by downloading, using it as a usb storage without wiping my data due to itunes. I buy my app, i strongly believe in supporting the apps makers but i also like blocking add that i get on my phone. Its just me, I'm not big mod type of guy or do some crazy stuff with my phone, just like the freedom to edit the look & feel of my very expensive toy [emoji51] it is my little computer on the go as i see it bro

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Keeping my fingers crossed. If i can donate and help for the cause, I dont mind, its cause of people that put their time and efforts to give us root, it wouldn't be possible without them type of guys. Kuddos and I thankful for their hard work.

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Its out there and working for the sprint. Currently the same rooting method works for tmobile as well but you loose wifi calling. Im waiting for the tmobile variant to be released and hoping it might be sooner than later but can't demand them to rush it.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] trinilu27:
Yes my phone is Carrier unlocked and the bootloader is unlocked out of the box

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Yes

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Yes my phone is Carrier unlocked it has unlock Bootloader I can use it for T-Mobile I can use it for Cricket I can use it for Metro PCS I can use it for AT&T excetera excetera and it CDMA besides that
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] trinilu27:
..OK so I was wrong about CDMA. ..
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
Me too! Never not had root. Hope this Note 7 isn't locked.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
The original root thread seems to be going strong.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Andrew S.S.:
Then I misunderstood what you meant. (and made a fool out of myself)

But I agree with what he said; The iPhone is good to many but it isn't all that customization. You can change your wallpaper. That's pretty much it.(Not literally)

You're stuck with what you get. You can't change things, you can't tweak them either. (Unless you jailbreak obviously)

People feel the same about android when you can't root it. Like they are stuck with what they have, they can't change it or do what they want with it. We have themes and all but still want to customize and tweak beyond that.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
You're right, don't know where I was looking before.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] pcriz:
You didn't make a fool of yourself. I responded out of turn. Rather I wasn't who you originally quoted.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Andrew S.S.:
Alright. Either way, the main point that most people here are making is that they want root and I think I got a bit side tracked of off the main point of this thread.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] mgbotoe:
For all those crying about root, I do not understand why you are even buying the device or pre-ordering it? Asking if something, that is not out yet, is rootable is not productive.

I mean, why not wait until root is solid than grab one? Locking down bootloader is nothing new and with the introduction of s7, it is not new on T-mobile either.

Sit back, relax...wait for root than make the plunge before going on about how you cannot stomach buying a 900 device you cannot control...no one says you have to. Simply waiting would take care of that ^.^

Locked down bootloader is here to stay, either find away to get with the program or buy older devices or buy newer nexus. Only popular manufacturing company that allows unlockable bootloader is HTC...and I guess 1+? Frankly, I pile them in the nexus category and they just now starting to make some waves...so hardly call them popular.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Andrew S.S.:
I don't think everyone asking about root IS going to pre-order it or anything. I think they will wait. Obviously there will be some that are asking just because they are curious but regardless will buy the phone. I know, it doesn't exactly make sense why they asked when it isn't even out but people are curious, regardless if anyone can answer the question or not.
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] mgbotoe:
Lol, I will hope they dont...but I have seen some around and about who had already. lol
[T-Mobile Note 7  Questions & Answers] Andrew S.S.:
True but mneh I'm sure people will find someway to root it. I hope so at least. If all the new phones are going to be locked (from Samsung at least) well then that is a true disappointment