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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
I have a similar issue with my contacts page. It actually slows down the whole cube. Plus, it is kinda hard to make the cube spin without activating one of the contacts. Other than that... nice work Kona!!!!!

Eagerly awaiting the next release :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
Glad you got it back working again. I have a question regarding the contacts cube face. When it comes up ... do any of the buttons actually work on it? Can you add/remove contacts, bring up phone call history, etc? I'm just wondering if it's related somehow to the issue that Eten owner's are having where the QuickDial app doesn't even really load.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kinson:
Hi Kona_Mtbkr,

i have this issue also, it need 3-4 second to load up the contact page. it make the cube slow down very much. however, i'm using hermes, not eten. also, all the buttons are work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rizer:
Noob

Ok I have been reading through this thread and i still cant get this thing to work. If Someone can write some detailed instructions on this it would be great. I have download everything and installed it like it says but i cant even get the damn cube settings to work. HELP PLEASE.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] motisu:
No, everything on the page work fine:). I can add and remove contacts and all the buttons are fully operable, meaning that when I press one, that contact's entry comes up and I can choose which of their numbers I want to call. Other than the delay, its great. Thanks for all the work in creating it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fb401:
Kona,

I doubt you need anymore input, but I upgraded to v1.1.0 and everything is flawless. My experience was if you update the FTouchFlo config file, then it still ran fine without having to soft reset, but overwriting the old TFloControl.exe with the new one caused to cube to run very slowly until after a soft reset. After a SR, everything was perfect.

I must commend you seriously, having closeapp mapped to UD and devicelock mapped to LR is the biggest breakthrough for me.

Thanks ALOT for all your work that started as a small project in the Kaiser forum. haha.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Zyphlin:
Something to possibly consider for future updates if both projects continue.

A guy over at PPCgeeks has figured out how to start adding extra sides to the "Cube". He's got 4 right now, working on getting more. I'd love to see full cube scrolling control mixed with the ability to have an 8 sided cube.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bchau:
I thought a cube has six sides:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Vukile:
Kona,

How about mapping the contacts grid to apps and settings instead of contacts.The quickdial thing on the home plugin takes care of that anyway.Id also like to request that the next version automatically exclude S2U2,I tried doing it myself with the config,didnt work.It became so stressful to unlock my device that I uninstalled the cube and decided to wait.This is by far the best cube program around.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
If we implement this new findings, maybe we can change the name to "The Polygon" :D

Who knows?, maybe if we add enough sides, we may be able to call it "The Sphere"

:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
I was thinking about these kinds of things just today. There's a limit that I'm going to reach (pretty much there already) about what I can do working within the constraints of the HTC TouchFLO cube itself. Then I ran across a sample someone had directed me to, where the guy was rewriting the cube but still using the same graphics files. So I had the following ideas:

1) A guy could rewrite biotouch in order to add additional sides to the cube. If you keep the same approach, you would just need to manage the animations, and loading/activating the target app when you arrive at a side. In order to add some new side, you'd need to write the app to interact with on that side.

2) You could rewrite the entire cube, QuickDial, ApLauncher, and MediaHub also. This would be more involved ... and things like the MediaHub changing it's view and showing the currently playing song would not be trivial to replicate. This could also be done as an extension once #1 was done.

Just some thoughts ... unfortunately, I don't have a whole lot of free time until next year. I've started on another project that needs my attention.

Zyphlin, I would be curious to know the link to the project with the 6-sided cube though. Might be interesting to see what approach they took. I did a bit of searching over there ... and ran into a thread where the guy talks about HTC TouchFLO Cube, and then links over here to my thread :) Eh, this forum is where the *real* development happens anyways, right?! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Zyphlin:
Opps :Cough: 6 sides, yes...er...6

Damn posting at work. I shouldn't be posting during a time my brain is off.

Let me see. Links to this guy talking. One here for PPC geeks:

Right here Poster is Musicman247. Towards the bottom of the last page.

He's also mentioned it at XDA here as the same user name.

It seems that the majority of his play by play is on the PDAgeeks forum though
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] burakaraman:
Thanks a lot for this wonderfull tool. I'm bit a noob with this and even I figured out how to let it work wihtout problems :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
At first reading this thread, I was thinking ... this is just people talking about changing the graphics. And then, I saw his post about an 8-button app launcher, and I'm thinking ... OK, mildly interesting. Then towards the end, you're right ... he's talking about successfully adding a 4th side to the cube. Thing is, he mentions registry entries that I just don't have.

I'm wondering if they've got a different/newer version of Biotouch on their Sprint Touch devices. I've posted there to see if I can get confirmation of that ... and/or even better if someone will offer me some files off their device. If it is a newer version, we may be able to work with Musicman247 and achieve a 4th cube face app launcher ... thereby making it a "real" cube!

Stay tuned ... let's see if I get any responses. I've never posted on PPCGeeks, so they'll probably see 1st post an think I'm an idiot :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
New cab built by xplode available here: http://rapidshare.com/files/73378989/HTCCube_FTouchFlo_TFloCubeCtrlv110_Config-xplode.cab

Includes HTCCube + FTouchFlo v1.4.1 + TFloCubeCtrl v1.1.0 + TouchSettings v1.22 + FTouchFloConfig. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it looks very complete.

Interesting to note: The reg key he has for MediaHubMini version is slightly earlier than the one I have. Not sue if xplode has a different version of that app from me or not. Also, he has some extra reg keys in there for QuickDial that I didn't see in my cube install. Interesting to see if these make any difference and/or help people with their slowdown issues?

Thanks xplode!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
New Biotouch Version?!?!

Musicman247 replied: BioTouch Ver = 2.0.28554 in the Sprint Touch.

Looks like we've got a different version on our hands here ... I'm intrigued! I've requested files off a Sprint Touch from that PPCGeeks thread. If anyone here knows how to get ahold of them, please let me know! You know anything I can work out with this will be posted here (or maybe a new thread :) )
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcespi2005:
Seems the link to rapidshare is bad, can you correct it, or post the link to original post by xplode?

Many thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
Sorry ... my bad. Copy-Paste error! Link was right in Post #1, but when I copied/pasted ... it used the abbreviated version to create the link (doh!)

Fixed in Post #354
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcespi2005:
ey, no problem, don't worry, we all here make mystake...

You are doing a great job, so thanks ;)

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fb401:
What files do you need? My boss has a Sprint Touch.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
Thanks for the offer fb401 ... but Musicman has uploaded the major cube apps for me on the PPCGeek thread, I've already downloaded them. I'll take a look at them over the weekend and let you guys know what I find out.

I'll keep you in mind though too ... because I might need some other stuff. Back to my "real" job ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pannenkoek:
I have a wizard and a tytn. The wizard is running on BlackDiamond 3.1, tytn on Schaps 4.20 & this TF cube version.

The BD 3.1 has a build in TF cube and it´s reacting much faster and snappier than the this version on the tytn. How´s this possible? The tytn is twice as fast.

The difference is very visible on the contacts page of the cube. The wizard has almost no lag and the tytn has 2 or 3 second lag at completing the side of the cube.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fb401:
Cool, just let me know. He's more than happy to let me use it anytime.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pabonj:
Use of xplode CAB

I installed the XPLOD CAB on my AT&T 8525 and notice a great improvement on the QuickDial application which now don't show any lag (previous takes 3 to 4 seconds to show contacts). I recommend to uninstall all the applications (if you already have them), which I had installed individually, and then install the new CAB file. It works awesome.

Jaime

AT&T 8525

Rom: vp3g / 3.62

Radio: 1.54.07
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] James62370:
I also noticed Xplode made some modifications on the Contacts page where now we can select a specific number and it dials automatically instead of bringing up the contact page, makes it much more usuable in my opinion...

Speed however seems about the seem, and the usual bugs which are already posted ie. Rainbow effect, and removing the registry key to get the contacts tab back on the htc home plugin...

In any event, great Job Kona & Explode for putting all into one package...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ^^rac:
Xplodes Cab

I can anyone upload Xplodes .cab over here!!

I cant seem to download it from Rapidshare............

Its appreciated!

Thanks guys!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ^^rac:
Hi there!

I also found the same!

I have a P3400 200mhz processor

And a Himalaya 400mhz processor

The same cube, on the P3400 it runs fast and smooth, the animation is great!

On the Hima, the animation is not smooth and struggles to turn etc........

Very strange behaviour!

But still this cube is excellent!

I found the new version to have less rainbow effects, and the contact page open faster!

Thanks Kona!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcespi2005:
Sure, here you have a megaupload mirror...

http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=5N0PW6O3

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ^^rac:
Thanks man!!

Appreciated!

Have a good one!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The_hesham:
Strange, I installed the new ver. xplode cab but the speed as before and the contact page is not working at all!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ^^rac:
Yes

Hi guys

I have also installed the new .cab.

The animation is faster on mine this time............but the contact page is also not working at all.

If you click on anything, phone/missed call, there is no responce from any buttons..........

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frazzleuk:
Hey guys still avidly trying to download this file and niether host site will let me. Can you help. Also although I have had a read through can anyone confirm this works with Hermes?

Thanks and keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rvashi:
Hey guys...searched this whole thread for weather but only found 4 posts but none answering my question. And this actually might sound dumb if I a missing something (which i probably am) but under Touch Settings, there is a tab for "Weather." Where does this tab effective? I mean, is there a weather side on the cube (such as contacts side and media side)...or where/what exactly is this configuring the weather for?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
Sorry ... must've missed you original post (thread moves pretty fast some days)

AFAIK, the weather config on TouchSettings is actually for the weather tab of the HTCHome today plugin. It doesn't really have anything to do with the cube.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
So the contacts side of the cube was working for you before ... and now after you installed and the installed xplode's cab, it doesn't work? If that's the case ... then we might be onto something as far as dependencies of QuickDial go. Can you tell me what cab you used to install before where QuickDial was working? Maybe I can do a comparison and figure out what might be missing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] centtavo79:
Weather Tab

Kona, I had problems with the weather tab after installing your awesome cube, but I found a thread that had me reinstall the home plugin and fixed the problem, and it actually fixed the problem of losing the contacts tab also. It actually made the contacts tab faster, it would actully have a lag before but not anymore. Great work by the way!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] centtavo79:
Blurry pictures

I also had problems with the pictures being blurry on the contacts page of the cube as well as the contacts tab on the home plugin. I tried the suggestion I found here abour reinstalling the pictures with PocketCM instead of outlook, but it didn't work for me. Instead I used the HTC Album program which has an option to set a picture as a contact pic, it keep the original pics graphics intact and now they look better on both the cube and my contacts tab.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] motisu:
Same problem here. I was using the older version of Xplode's HTCCube (the one with the older version of cube control) Quickdial worked OK but slowly. I uninstalled that one after deleting all the startup lnk files. and installed the new version. Quickdial page comes up OK but is totally unresponsive. Hope you have an answer soon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] synaptyc:
I get no response from the quickdial side of the cube also.

I used xplode's previous cab, then this new one. The old one worked well. This one works.... all but the QuickDial side.

~crosses fingers~
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] HEhe1718:
Hey I am trying to install the album on the phone using the cube. I have a Mogul 6800. I have installed it but when I try to use it the touchflo doesn't not allow me to operate it "exceptions: HTC ALBUM" how do I correct this problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elgreek84:
Use

Exclude:HTCAlbum.exe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
I can't say definitively that it will work ... but I also have no particular reason why it wouldn't. Other than possibly a compact framework requirement (this version was in C#) ... my app doesn't require much, so any WM5 or 6 should work. The bigger issue right now is finding an HTC TouchFLO Cube installation that works for you. I'm planning on addressing this in the future, and trying to come up with a more streamlined cab install.

I forgot to ask people, but I'm going to try to compile a list of what devices people have the cube and my cube controller working on ... I'll post it somewhere within the first group pf postings.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Raven_coda:
I think it's safe to assume it will work on WM5 SDK as that's what was use to write biotouch.exe

This is the reference to the debuger tracing file taken right out of biotouch.exe

d:\\Project\\BiotouchAP\\3SideBiotouch\\FifthRelease\\Biotouch(Light)_realtimeload_online\\Biotouch\\Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK (ARMV4I)\\Debug\\Biotouch.pdb<bh:00>
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megaman:
after 24 hours chrono !!!

I'm not Jack Bauer but I've been testing it for the last day, and I didn't see any bug.

Then tonight I uninstalled it and I tried the new alpha 3 from dutty

and catastrophe !!!!

every thing went wrong:

With dutty's alpha 3, I can launch the cube, and then impossible to make it spin.

I changed the Ftouch config file, but nothing !!!

impossible to minimize too !!!!

and more over, I can't relaunch the cube till I reset the kaiser.

I will remove it immediately and come back to your release.

I hope that this info could help you as dutty's alpha 3 is based on your work...

megaman
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
megaman - if you had everything working, there wasn't much reason to uninstall. dutty's alpha 3 just incorporates my new biotouch interface (with my permission :) ). I haven't checked out what exactly he did ... but don't worry ... he and I are in communication, and I'm sure it'll get worked out. I actually think I have about the same symptoms as you ... even without installing dutty's alpha 3. It may be a side effect of some alterations to the links in the startup folder. I'm continuing my investigation of the "correct" way to start things up.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eagleboy:
where is this alpha 3, how can i download it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chunga168:
Sorry I really can't say I understand this app fully.

Is there much difference between this and the other 2 cube launchers? Byka's and someone else?

Sorry for the stupid question.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Raven_coda:
I've taken what Kona_Mtbkr has put together and I've written a c++ proggy to open the cube and it runs much faster and smoother. However, My app does not open biotouch if it's not open and as is right now if you move left to right or right to left and biotouch isn't showing then it instantly shows biotouch and turns the cube (not desired). I'll work on fixing both of these tomorrow.

@Kona_Mtbkr In one of your posts you mentioned you couldn't see how to get the cube to show the opening anim if it was already ruinning. I'm not sure if you already found the answer but if you send biotouch a message of 0xC00B with wParam = 3 then it brings focus to it and shows the startup anim. PM me if you want more details about any of this.

I'll post my work here once I get some sleep. I can see how Kona_Mtbkr has lost lots of sleep over this. It's hard to quit once you get working on it;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bchau:
The other 2 Cubes are flash lite application. This one is modified from the original HTC Touch Cube.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Superdate:
It works great

but very interesting, the function works the other way around on my HTC p3300:

when sliding down, is open

sliding up is close.....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cruzzmz:
this maybe sound silly but

"unless you already have the TouchFLO cube software installed and spinning to the right via FTouchFlo"

where exactly can you find a working one for non htc device? if i may ask ... i tried searching but no luck in making the cube to work ... will only get a black blank screen :(

BTW i am using xda o2 zinc (marsII)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] toyjeep:
Hi all,

i've installed Alpha 2 and the only thing that could show in my default TYTN II was a blank screen.

With the Alpha 3 i now see the cube for the first time but could not spin to left or right, even no possible to minimize it.

Returning to today screen the only way that i could make the cube shown is making let to right or the other side. The cube shows but I couldnt spinit and the contacts i've already added have disapear. Even so none of the icons function.

Hope you could fix it!

Best regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Raven_coda:
Post removed,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
-- EDIT --

Big misunderstanding here ... all straightened out now. Note to all ... a C++ version is in the works, and Raven_coda has already established that it will definitely provide a much needed speed enhancement. Please be patient everyone ... I decided to release the alpha just to let people know that this was possible ... but please give us time to work through the issues and do it up right.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] liv3wire:
would it be possible for me to use the alpha? I have a wizard with the cube cooked into the ROM, at the moment with it cooked in, down - up launches the cube, then up - down closes the cube, im hoping this could sort it out

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] motisu:
Exactly the same here on my BA. Alpha 2 gave me the black screen but Alpha 3 brings up the contacts page. I tried running both aploader and mediahubmini directly but neither one of them runs. Biotouch and touchflo both run and bring up contacts page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
Dutty is working with me to fix his alpha 3. FYI, dutty is the *only* person who I have authorized to include my app in any sort of Cab installer.

Black screens are an issue with the cube apps themselves, not my application. That said, I'm working on some hints/tips for getting the cube to work. But it takes time, and this isn't my day job!

motisu ... I am intrigued by your alpha 2 -> alpha 3 experience. My app still has a startup dependency on the old touchflo app, and I can't quite figure out what that is yet. This is interesting input for me to consider ... thanks for that. Your key to getting the cube to work though is going to rely on you getting the mediahubmini and applauncher apps working. They have the most interdependencies I believe ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] toyjeep:
I've had the same experience Alpha2 --> blank screen / Alpha3 -->cube contacts.

It was an advance :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
I think this is somehow a key to the puzzle. My guess is that alpha 2 does not work for you, because it's trying to do something with all 3 cube apps, and some of those cube apps aren't working on your device (a whole 'nother issue). Alpha 3 is able to bring up the QuickDial app, because we are trying to remove the dependencies on touchflo and biolauncher. I believe dutty's alpha 3 cab didn't not have this bio.lnk in the startup, adn that's why the cube won't spin. However ... the bad news I believe, is that once we fix the startup process of my app to be correct, you may get back to the black screen. I've found that the black screen is a symptom of one or more of the cube apps not working.

More on this in a bit ... stay tuned
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] toyjeep:
I will dont worry

:) :)

tnks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] motisu:
Very unfortunate:(.

What is the linkage between the 3 apps? Why should 1 work and not the other 2? It seems to me that all 3 are merely launching programs, so they shouldn't be very complicated and should be fairly similar in their interface requirements.

waiting very impatiently:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The_hesham:
Yes, the contact screen was working by using the first cab file collected by xplode.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kona_Mtbkr:
OK, I get the idea ... thanks for the input. I'm not sure how often Xplode checks this thread, as I believe he decided that he wasn't gonna run the cube anymore. He made this latest cab just because I asked him too ... but admitted that he hadn't tested it much.

I'll check this out and get to the bottom of it ... but it probably won't be until late Sunday night/Monday morn. Sorry, too many things going on ... need to sleep in there somewhere!