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[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
The Note 7 has Qualcomm's new Aqstic codec, and the S7E does not. This is the same one used in the HTC M10. That should help some, although the amp may be the weak link in the chain at this point.

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...m-powers-next-generation-samsung-galaxy-note7

(in first paragraph)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] @home:
Is that for EU version or the US?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] PsiPhiDan:
Qualcomm is the company that makes the Snapdragon chip, so it's got to be the US version.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] @home:
That's what I thought.

I'm talking about the Exynos version. Same as the S7E.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drummerman:
... which uses a Wolfson derived DAC. Likely better than Qualcomms solution, code notwithstanding.

Ultimate limitation is the DAC/amplifier chip ... ie. hardware.

Either way, you would be better off using an outboard DAC as mentioned previously or something like a high resolution player from Fiio if you want the last ounce of performance.

No phone will come close to a well implemented and dedicated player.

Forget about Viper and other similar players. Pretty lights that's it. It will do absolutely nothing for your audio other than adding some fancy looking equalizers. Use either Samsungs own player or the one from Google. Black player is another good one and simple.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] @home:
Well maybe they have improved the DAC/amplifier chip for the Note 7.

It's annoying that a definite answer cannot be found on the net somewhere.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] alexsoin:
I'm monitoring http://www.head-fi.org/ time to time. I guess sooner or later some reviews of Note 7's SQ will appear!
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] MJB_One:
Will have to see if this is pure marketing hype or not... https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] matsuyamakaze:
Don't know if anyone said this but just use viper for android if when it gets rooted. Great dac a good idea.

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Just read this.

Qualcomm Aqstic™ audio codec, providing users with impressive high-fidelity audio performance.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ramheer:
Does anyone know if the exynos version still has a Wolfson DAC? Everyone talks about the snapdragon chip but I am based in the UK and was hoping someone could shed light on it

Tech Zilla
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drummerman:
It's not a wolfson dac per se but a lucky chip co-developed with Wolfson. Its good. Headphone amplifier is not the loudest unless they have changed that but as hardware is the same I would think that stays too. Plenty loud enough unless you want to damage your hearing.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
The Aqstic codec is a feature of the 820 chip which both the S7E and Note7 have, where have you seen it that the S7E does not use it? Also the HTC 10 isn't using the 820 DAC and uses a separate discreet DAC instead.

My biggest concern with the locked down Note7 version is the sound quality since we can't use Viper4Android. The sound on my Note5 sucks without using Viper so I am hoping the Note7 will somehow sound better.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Devisback:
Completey agree with drummerman.

I use neutron player and adjusted it as per my needs. AS lot of things we can have as options in neutron.

I have Exynos version of S7 edge.

Fantastic Audio Quality in headphones.

I use SONY MDR-EX750AP.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] fireguy0306:
I'm fairly sure it was proven out that the HTC does not have a separate chip. Fairly sure it is just using the advanced codecs from the SD chip.

Anyway I'm just hoping then my S7E was.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
I really don't know anything about the HTC 10 other than what has been talked about regarding the DAC in these threads.

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved

Quoted HTC

"We use a discrete DAC (not one on the SoC) in addition to the amp and have done a ton of PCB engineering to insure the best possible signal-to-noise ratio. Credit to HTC engineering, not off-the-shelf components."

Regarding the DAC and Aqstic codec in the SD 820, I had the S7E for a couple of weeks but can't really remember how I felt about the Audio. At the time I was using Dobly and Viper4Android on my Note 5 so the comparison would not have lived up to that combo anyway. I have been running unrooted and stock on my Note 5 for the last month or so and the audio just sucks. I know a dedicated player is the best but I use streaming services mainly to listen to music, Google Play and Pandora.

I am curious to compare the Note5 and Note7 audio in the stock form to see how they sound compared to each other. This is the first phone that I have mixed feelings about. I am excited to get it but knowing the US version is locked down means we have to live with it however it is. I haven't found a good EQ app that does anything like Viper4Android to help correct the audio and make it sound better.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Linsolv:
Where are you seeing that the Aqstic codec was on the Galaxy S7 Edge? I cannot find a single reference to it. The Snapdragon 820, sure, but they're not interchangeable. Indeed, the Aqstic codec was just getting its initial press releases in June ("Qualcomm Aqstic sets a new standard for audiophiles", dated June 2, Qualcomm's own website), almost 3 months after the S7E's release, and they were bragging about its "wide use" in such phones as the Xiaomi Mi5 and the HTC 10.

Wouldn't Samsung, the biggest phone company in the world, have been a big fish for them to brag about catching?

The exclusion is particularly notable, since now that the Note7 is coming out, they're bragging about Aqstic on the Note7 ("Qualcomm Powers Next Generation Samsung Galaxy Note7", dated August 2, Qualcomm's site again), but even still there's no mention in the presser about it having been used in the prior generation of Samsung phones.

Why do you think that is?

I'd link the articles directly, but spam prevention and so on.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] ramheer:
Thanks for your reply, which variant do you think will perform better via headphones? Snapdragon or Exynos?

Tech Zilla
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Devisback:
I'm using one with neutron player with S7 edge Exynos version ,with bit different technical facilities given in neutron, and headphone Sony MDR-EX750AP, it sounds good. ! I keep tube-amp, concert hall always on.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] 3165dwayne:
I had a fiio x3...the v10 destroyed it so I sold it
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Corbitt74:
This is one of the main reasons I root.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] chipworkz:
I just did a quick comparison between my Note5 and Note7 playing the same song at the same volume with no sound adjustments, just the default settings. They are VERY similar and I think it would be hard for anyone to tell the difference in a blind test. I feel myself wanting to give the Note7 a slight advantage for some of the ambient sounds but again, if it was a blind test I am not sure I would feel the same.

From this quick test, I don't think the Note7 is way better because it has the Aqstic feature but I also don't think it sounds way worse because it is using the 820 DAC. Basically if you were happy with the Exynos powered Note5 you will be just as happy with the SD 820 Note7.

Everyone will have their own opinion but this is my take from what I am hearing so far.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] gman16000:
What exactly is "Qualcomm Aqstic"™ audio? I mean yes, I can follow the links from Qualcomm and see that the Note 7 will have this technology and that sounds promising.

But then I when I see ifixit's teardown of the Qualcomm 820 (USA) based Note 7, I see a Qualcomm WCD9335 codec and notes saying "this chipset is nearly identical to that found in the S7 and S7 Edge." So I look at the S7 teardown, it also uses the WCD9335 codec.

Why is finding this information so incredibly hard? I'm really suspecting that the S7 and Note 7 will have the same dac. :(
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] soraxd:
the Exynos will blow it away. on top of having superior hardware, the international version will be able to be tuned at a hardware level while the Snapdragon won't (because of it being locked down, possible to change, but note 4 community is still holding its breath)
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] Uberpro:
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note7-review-1478p9.php
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] soraxd:
nice share! important to note they say they're using the Exynos version on page 1 of the review.
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] XavierAD:
Any good Bluetooth devices to use instead of an Aux cord in your car?
[Note 7 Questions & Answers] drummerman:
With Wolfson being a specialist for audiophile applications I would expect the Exynos version to be subjectively more 'musical'. Like I said, I use it with Flacs and Tidal Hi-fi and have no real complaints. Most users will experience far more limitations due to the headphones used.

Both versions probably measure similarly but will sound subjectively slightly different.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ajsmsg78:
Does reboot recovery and reboot bootloader work in this version?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Abdess76:
Yes :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Any chance to utilize the hardware back/home/menu buttons and get some more usable screen? They are actually virtual buttons, part of touchscreen. I took a look at TWRP source code, it looks for the file that defines those buttons with pixels positions ets., file exists in the phone, TWRP reads that file but only utilizes the back button. I am not a code guy so that's all I could get from all that... If back works the other two should too, isn't? Maybe they are not assigned to specific functions?

Really appreciate your work for this device! Thank you!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] flywithme:
This is the real helium twrp!

The previous version does not recognize helium rom,only hydrogen.

This version recognize helium rom correctly
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
Today tried to perform a nandroid backup with an exfat OTG disk. Don't seem to be able to makr use of it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
Hi guys. Could be its a stupid Q but what should i choose if twrp asks if i want to keep system read only? I occasionally want to flash other roms.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
I think it can't work with hdd (maybe withdraw too much power), not because of format.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
How is it with externally powered HDD?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
Haven't got a chance to test that. But tested a 2.5 inch hdd, not a single format is accepted. But also tested a exfat formatted pen drive, it didn't worked too. So the recovery can't accept exfat is also true.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
exfat on sdcard works fine on hydrogen.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
So did anyone (else) test exfat on helium? Don't they use the same kernel and drivers?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
Out of curiosity, i reflashed my helium box with hydrogen twrp and tested it using a 1 gb thumb drive with exfat.

No, it did not detect the thumb drive.

I am going to reformat it as fat32 just to verify that it does not like the format or it does not like the model of thumb drive.

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Ok tested. It's not format issue. It's model of thumb drive. I reformated it as fat32 is also not recognised.

The same thumb drive and same otg cable works when booted normally.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
So sorry for posting confusing result previously.

The thumb drive can only be recognised since boot. Hot plug will not make it reconizable.

And if I plug the thumb drive since boot, exfat is also recognised.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ayouh2o:
what is twrp password
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
Twrp asked for password because your storage (data partition) is encrypted. I am not aware that there is any way to retrieve the password, so I think what most people end up wiping it and formated without encryption.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] trabando:
For me it says : partition flashing is not allowed in fastboot command. Do i need to unlock bootloader first?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mctiew:
Yes.

You can install TWRP without unlocking bootloader via EDL mode. There is a xda thread about it. But since unlocking bootloader does not cost any money, just do it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rezaonline64:
Hello

We're going bluestack employees in a number of systems (Windows) to test an Android app installed, but want to do after you install applications to other applications (games, etc.) installed

Is there a solution?

Thank
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RapHaeL_4_4_4_:
Wait what?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david_hume:
Someone lock this thread. Goes against thread regulations.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rezaonline64:
Hi

Pelase say solution for block install other application in blue stack

Thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RapHaeL_4_4_4_:
Sorry, I wish I could help you but I can't understand what you want to say.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Jdog31804:
how can i disable / remove fastboot when im away from my computer on a tmobile lg g4 running 6.0, im removing it cause ever since i installed it started acting up like my battery dies in 2 hours when it usaully died in 15 - 20 hours. thanks bye :]
[T-Mobile LG G4] SilentBangHD:
Use task manager and kill it
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
DO NOT FLASH HYDROGEN ROMS ON HELIUM, OR YOU GONNA HAVE A HARDBRICK.

IN CASE YOU HAVE ONE, HERE IS THE SOLUTION.

This was tested with Xiaomi Mi Max 128GB helium and localized rom from xiaomi eu.

I am not responsible for bricked devices or anything else. So at your own risk:

1. Install official MiPhone drivers

2. Download and install MiFash beta.

3. Download and unpack TWRP for miflash: 32gb or 64-128gb thanks @Abdess76.

4. Download ROM for your device, I recommend to try this one. You can install RR/CM Rom as well.

5. Run MiFlash with admin rights.

6. Turn off the phone, plug the cable to PC and halfway to the phone.

7. At the same time press Volume + and Volume - and plug in the cable.

8. Refresh MiFlash phone should show up. (If it didn't then make sure you did it right and u got drivers)

9. Navigate to your unpacked TWRP and flash it.

10. Now, boot ur phone with volume up. It's a bit slow. If it's stuck on miui logo, just release button and wait.

From here start to pay more attention:

11. TWRP can ask for password, press cancel and allow modifications by moving slider.

If you just need ROOT and your current rom, skip to the step 16. Also there is a recovery from boot in system folder. If you won't remove it, recovery may be replaced with stock one after reboot. Keep it that way if you want OTAs.

12. Format data.

13. Enable MTP and put modified zip in your phone.

14. Go to mounts and unmount system **

15. Flash your rom.

16. Flash latest supersu.

17. Reboot the phone.

In case u got NO OS message, then it means that u probably ignored step 15.

Also first boot may take like 15-20 minutes, since eu rom is deodexed.

Just to be sure, after installation mount system partition and navigate to the /system folder using TWRP's file manager and make sure it's not empty.

* In my case system didn't install because script could mount system partition since it was already mounted.

P.S. In order to update, you need to install OTA for offical rom via TWRP. Then without rebooting flash SuperSU, and finally using TWRP's file manager navigate to system folder and delete file named recovery from boot. Doing so will keep root and recovery.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] flywithme:
Thank you so much for the guide! I will try it tonite :)

Waiting for boot loader is just too long..
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Darriousx:
WOW!!!! Just, wow..... I can not believe it but it worked like a charm. It took me forever to figure out my issue with the drivers, but after solving that I followed you step-by-step. And, lo and behold, it WORKED! Note for other users, Twrp took about a minute or two to finally boot up and it took me personally about 15-20 minutes before MIUI 8 finally booted. Just wait it out and you should have the amazing results that Doom Slayer has so graciously provided you :)

THANK YOU!!!!
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] flywithme:
I just done following your guide and it works!!

For rooting, I tried 2 times before it works. I believe you missed out a step to mount back system before flashing supersu.

So in the future, how do we dirty flash? Start from step 13?

How about clean flash? Start from step 12?

Thank you once again for this great guide!!

You saved me a lot of time waiting for Bootloader approval.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Yeah, dirty flash is you keep your data and format system and caches .

Clean flash is u format data as well.

The thing is that u have root, and ur phone is also secured. It's linked to ur Mi account, while it's locked. It's better to keep that way :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Theoretically If you will ignore steps from 12 to 16. (Maybe u can ignore data formatting too)

Then you can get a ROOT and TWRP on your current rom.

And also theoretically while on miui 8 rom ,u can try to unlock bootloader without waiting.

Try this manual.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] agreusar:
I have followed these steps and bricked my phone, spent the last 24h trying to recover it no luck.

I got an error while in the process of flashing the rom at step 16, then tried again and phone went black, stopped responding.

It's not detected using adb or fast boot, it appears in device manager as "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008" or "Qualcomm HS-USB Diagnostics 900E", I have tried to flash again TWRP or the official ROM, it says success every time but the phone is still dead.

Could it be due to locked boot loader ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] nijel8:
Open it up and remove battery for a few minutes, then try again from step 6...
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Which rom did u flash, give the link please.

Are u sure it's for your version? It can be a broken file as well.

Does the device connects when u hold both volume buttons?

It's called emergency download mode, u can istall rom with miflasher.

There is a testpoint method also.

All u need is a pic from this post on http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=749580&st=700#entry51154086

U need to disconect battery, connect testpoint to battery and flash ur device with miflash.

After that let it charge, since this in your state phone consumes battery.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] agreusar:
thanks for you answer, I flashed the MiMAXPRO EU ROM xiaomi.eu_multi_MIMAXPro_6.8.4_v8-6.0.zip (sorry as a new user not allowed to post a link yet)

When I hold both volume buttons the screen is still black but MI Flasher works with COM10, after flashing a ROM or TWRP again MIFlash says "success" but the phone is still dead and won't start up even after holding power button for a long time.

I'm happy to open the phone and try the method on the russian forum, I will try tomorrow hope it will start up
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Don't worry about your phone, the testpoint method will work for sure.

But in order to prevent this kind of situations ,we need to determine the reason how did it happen and you need to help me with that one by answering following questions:

1) You have mentioned that you had an error 1st time.

I also had error which was cache related, and it's OK because that partition was just formatted. You tried to flash again... but did you unmount your system partition for second time?

2) What's the capacity of your internal storage?

3) Did you use internal or external storage? If external then I need the model and the file system that have been used on that storage.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] agreusar:
Hello,

I managed to recover the phone, I installed a fresh windows 7 on another PC with only MI Flash Beta installed, device appeared as "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008" as usual and I flashed the china ROM. Not sure why it wouldn't start previously after flashing, maybe issue with drivers.

1) unfortunately I don;t remember the syntax of the error, it was after a few seconds of flashing but the process seemed interrupted, I even googled it but my browser history has been purged.

2) 64GB (Helium)

3)I used internal storage, copied the zip on the phone using MTP.

Might try to go through the process again this weekend.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Well, I guess system was mounted and it gived u the error,but formatted it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] alain belay:
hi to all of you. I am very interested by this thread. Here is the story. I received my brand new mi max helium this week but it was the chinese rom. I am in France and my country did not appear in the settings. So I wanted to flash a global rom. I plugged it to my pc in recovery mode and a window appeared said that there is an update. I clicked ok and after a while I got stuck in the mi logo bootloop.

Then from then I tried everything possible from several solutions here, but nothing worked. What I got is the mi logo without bootloop, but nothing more.

I get the message that the bootloader is locked, but I can't get it unlock if it is in this state.

What I can reach is the recovery mode and the fastboot mode. But nothing else worked, flash or anything.

That is why I am interested to flash a recovery, in order to flash a clean rom, etc..

I did what you, Doom Slayer, explains, but I could not get a twrp flash. It ends with "receiving hello packet" in mi flash, and every thing stopped.

If I cannnot install any recovery, I cannot flash a rom.

So please if you have any suggestion, it would be helpful. Thanks a lot.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Did you disable drivers signature?

Also some people have a better luck on windows 7, u can try a virtual machine.

If you can enter EDL mode, then you should be fine.

Unless Chinese already disabled it in a new update.

I would blame drivers. Make sure u got them correctly.
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Slayer:
Updated tutorial.

Uploaded TWRP for helium, so you don't need to edit updater script anymore, since script will get correct model.

Now you can try to get root on your current rom and unlock bootloader without Xiaomi's confirmation.

People having helium with unlocked bootloader may also have problems installing roms from xiaomi eu, if they have TWRP from hydrogen.

You may update using my recovery.img from archive using fastboot, or TWRP(will also work for locked bootloader).
[Xiaomi Mi Max Guides, News, & Discussion] alain belay:
hi Doom. Thank you for reply. But what do you mean by " disable drivers signature". I did not do anything but install the drivers and when I am on what I think is EDL mode(screen isi black) the driver is recognized as Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008(COM20).

Anyway, I will give another try and let you know. Thank you again.

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I followed your guide and I could get the twrp installed. So I tried to install rom(following your link). It said rebooting in 5 seconds, and then nothing. The screen is black, no power anymore, no logo, no vibes, and no life at all.

I cannot get any more reaction from it. I plugged it to my pc, but nothing is connected. I was so happy with twrp working... Any idea?...