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[Magisk] zgfg:
I'd stop being polite here, but honestly:

Why should anybody ask questions here and expect the others to waste time answering him, if he was too lazy to follow the conversation on time to be informed from the ongoing posts (talking already two or thee months about.the changes rolling out), and in the first place, too lazy to read the ChangeLog while updating his Magisk installation
[Magisk] zgfg:
If I can still count on my short-term memory how I downloaded and tested just 24h ago:

I downloaded Shamiko from the main Alpha channel, assuming it was the right/latest version to test with

When complaining to the TG channel I saw couple of similar reports with the same error.

ThenI got response to use the latest version and I realized that download for (42) was replaced by (47) - otherwise I don't understand where else would I stumped first to download (42) if not from that same TG channel, where I was posting/responding to (and under the same Shamiko 'topic')
[Magisk] zgfg:
Thank you for that explanation, I knew that Xiaomi.eu ROMs are deodexed but didn't know that for Momo it means that 'Restriction on non-SDK interfaces is not working"🤩
[Magisk] vandyman:
Thank you for being a great contributer to xda.

I have been checking in on this thread since day one.

My problem with this thread is that no one at least tries reading the basics before any modding.

The same questions are ask every day and answered with no improvement to this thread to keep the clutter down.

Remember the Bozos with the Pokémon go BS....
[Magisk] rodken:
I suppose that the same reasoning applies to stock OnePlus ROMs [OOS].
[Magisk] pndwal:
Ok, I saw your exchange later. It was in less known Alpha channel (~ 700 members) where init release was posted. Assume you found that after my first posts... Only updated 47 version was posted in main Alpha feed (6.2k subscribers) before you tried with Alpha as I said. These posts and comments are also mirrored in the 700 member feed however... PW
[Magisk] saeed81:
Help me pls , using android 12 , with magisk canary 23015 but when enable Zygisk, Riru and lsposed doesn't work
[Magisk] pndwal:
You need to search (find Telegram channel links in LSPosed GitHub) for new Zygisk-LSPosed. Zygisk and Riru are incompatible now. PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
Thanks. Do you maybe know also about the flag/detection:

- Partition mounted abnormally
[Magisk] JacobBoi_:
Realme 7 pro, No custom rom

I have a problem:

I enabled the stuff in the Google Play Services (and do everything else).

But when i reboot my phone The Google Play Services seems to be untouched like i neved changed anything with it in Deny List...

Screens show Before and After Reboot.

I did this multiple times.
[Magisk] zgfg:
You can't see anything in Google Play Services:)

But try with SafetyNet Checker like YASNAC

If it doesn't pass, try with installing Universal SafetyNet Fix 2.2.0 (XDA USNF thread)
[Magisk] JacobBoi_:
I already did it :/
[Magisk] ipdev:
@JacobBoi_

If you are using USNF v2.2.0, you can not add gms to DenyList.

The USNF module will remove it from the DenyList on boot if you do.

As soon as you add gms to the DenyList, you will break USNF.

Make sure gms is not in the DenyList and reboot one more time.

Then check SafetyNet.

--

If your device does not support hardware attestation then you do not need use the USNF module.

Instead you add gms to the DenyList and adjust the sensitive prop values.

Easiest is to use the MHPC module to set the sensitive props.

[MODULE] MagiskHide Props Config - SafetyNet, prop edits, and more - v6.1.2 - xdaThread - Link

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] ipdev:
Just one thing to add. ;)

If you do not know what version of Magisk is installed.

You can uninstall all the Magisk apps and reboot.

Since Magisk is still active on the device, it will install the Magisk stub app on boot.

Open the stub app and it will prompt to install the full version.

This will guarantee you get the correct Magisk app version.

The stub will point to the version of Magisk that the boot image is patched with.

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] J.Michael:
If you can, run the following in a terminal:

magisk -c
[Magisk] VirginPC:
Hi everyone...... I tried uninstall Magisk Canary v23.0 (the last version of MagiskHide), and install the latest 23015 version from Official & Unofficial....... But I try everything, it still not able to install the Magisk, & only show App installed, but Magisk not show........ Can guide me????
[Magisk] Vijay_lalwani:
Hey, just a small question. I installed the lastest Canary build and everything works just fine but I can't see the list of installable modules that was previously available using the stable version.

Thanks in advance.
[Magisk] zgfg:
First, it is/must be in the ChangeLog that Canary (and future Stable) does no more connect to the Repo - it is gone

Second, it was at least asked and answered once in the last 2-3 days (I remember, I did snswer).

Please scroll back, find and read

Sorry but I really don't understand why users tend to install new Canary, without doing their homework first to get informed what will be the changes and how to deal with them.

It's really frustrating to read the same basic questions over and over
[Magisk] pndwal:
Well that's last Stable build w/ MagiskHide; last (synchronised) Canary was 23001.

So we need more details re what you did; many possibilities. Did you uninstall previous app? Did you take Uninstall Magisk from within app? Both? If used Uninstall Magisk function, Restore Images or Complete Uninstall? Reinstall by installing APK / Direct Install (if didn't use Uninstall Magisk) or patch/flash boot image or flash zip from recovery? Any root apps still working or root Detector app indicate device is actually rooted If didn't take Uninstall Magisk? Did you simply install new App with old App hidden (not Restored) and still installed? (Likely dual conflicting app syndrome afflicting more Magisk users that covid does)...

Please give us a clue... PW
[Magisk] V0latyle:
Welcome to XDA :D

The best we can do is be patient and professional; we were all noobs once.
[Magisk] vandyman:
No being a newbie is not the main problem.

This is the Magisk general questions thread.

Meaning, posting topics above the Canary builds confuses people on what the basics are.

Stable and Canary builds is all that should be talked about here.

I am surprised that the moderator has not closed this thread for a week. As they have done in the past multiple times.

99% of the people that read these post are not developers or programmers. They are just everyday people.

And to the newbie, if a search, common sense, and reading first before posting. Then they deserve to be ridiculed.
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
Another problem is that there is really no OP where users can go to to get the latest information on different Magisk versions, builds, etc.., like other threads have. Yeah, yeah, I know, many people don't read the OP, but if there was a thread with the latest information I would suggest it would cut down on the repetitive questions significantly (or at least somewhat significantly).

Maybe it's time for someone who keeps up on all the different versions and latest information to open a thread which contains all the information on all the the different versions while keeping the OP updated. I know, a lot of work, but I think it would solve a lot of headaches for both users who are new or don't/can't keep up with the latest developments, and users who have to answer these questions on a daily basis.

Or maybe if there is someway to have John give someone control of the OP so they can keep it updated and informative.

Anyway, just a suggestion.....
[Magisk] pndwal:
It is assumed that "Public Release" Magisk users will read

1) Magisk GitHub main page (linked from OP here by clicking Announcement Thread, then Magisk's GitHub Page).

2) Official Installation Instruction linked from there (Useful Links).

3) Release Notes that pop up when clicking Magisk or Magisk Beta links (under Downloads).

Important Note for Canary Magisk users:

As this thread, originally for "Public Releases" only, has also become the defacto Magisk General Support / Discussion thread for Canary builds (since original "Magisk Canary Channel - Bleeding Edge Builds"

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-dev-magisk-canary-channel-bleeding-edge-builds.3839337/

is closed for further replies; Nb. the OP links there are to old "archived" Canary build repo) and more recently has additionally included general discussion on some unofficial Magisk modified or pre-official release builds, If you intend to switch to debug Canary or other non-'public' builds please note the following:

1) Please be familiar 1) & 2) above.

2) Please check Release notes for your Canary build as well as upstream changes in earlier Canary builds at least back to previous public Stable. Since these don't pop up when clicking Canary link in John's main GitHub page, you need to know where to look.

Current Canary repo is easily found by clicking topjohnwu at top of Magisk main page to go to root of topjohnwu GitHub, click magisk-files repo and change branch to canary. This is /magisk-files/tree/canary repo/branch.

Here, clicking View code, then README.md will give you latest release notes only. You should click history (clock) icon, select a Canary update by date and Browse files before clicking View code, then README.md to see release notes.

Currently, please start from Oct 24, 2021 update notes which include a link to John's 'blog post' State of Magisk: 2021 - very important information on current debug Canary changes and direction of future public Stable / Beta builds. Next, check notes up the page to current Canary.

Please similarly check upstream notes for unofficial builds if you decide to try these by familiarising yourself with relavent GitHub / Telegram (/other?) pages.

If you can't do this you really shouldn't be using 'bleeding edge' Canary or other builds. This is really basic preparation and will save yourself as well as others in this thread especially, much frustration, angst and annoyance. 😉

If you have issues, you'll also find answers to most of them linked from main page under Useful Links in Frequently Asked Questions, Magisk Documentation and (the excellent, exhaustive & - dare I say it - elegant) Magisk Troubleshoot Wiki by @Didgeridoohan.

For further understanding, the Magisk Documentation designated 'for developers' is actually most enlightening / useful for Magisk users in general; don't check YouTube 'tutorials', read John's succinct docs! - I recommend 'Android Booting Shenanigans' for starters (especially if interested in new Android architecture changes and challenges new devices pose for Magisk).

I especially hope some of the detail above helps Magisk's more maverick (or otherwise intrepid) users! 😀 PW
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
I'm sure this will be great information for new users or users who don't keep up on the latest ongoings of Magisk (and kudos to you for writing it up 👍), but I fear in a day or two this post will be buried in the depths of this thread where new users or users who don't keep up on the latest ongoings will have a hard time stumbling upon it. I think history shows that the current method of disseminating information is not working given the repetitive questions and answers that occur almost daily here. And maybe that's ok, but I think something like this post would be awesome in the/an OP where it can be easily found.

Just my opinion, carry on...
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
Spoiler content hidden.

You forgot: in need of a major update... Once Magisk v24 is released I've got a lot of work to do.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Really since John has 'given up' on XDA (he has his own reasons / issues with it) GitHub has become the new Magisk main page, and he does pretty well keeping that up to date (a new lot of doc updates is bound to accompany imminent new public Beta build... any tick of the clock.

Meanwhile this 'messy' thread is the domain of enquirer's / Magisk - enthusiast helpers. 🤪 John does have his XDA 'distillers' (spies) however.

I'd nominate @Didgeridoohan... He could probably do it WITHOUT John's permission w/ mod edits! 😜 ... (Seriously, I'm joking 😀)

An OP update may be a good idea (perhaps only for a few helpful links?) but I think the thread serves its purpose for General Discussion / Support.

As I've mentioned, Magisk GitHub is what users really need to familiarise themselves with to be appraised of 'different versions and latest information', and it's kept very orderly by John.

Worth noting that John officially endorses @Didgeridoohan's wiki for good reason. - You'd be hard pressed to make a better go-to database of issues / solutions / methods / troubleshooting etc, and like john's GitHub, this is meticulously maintained / updated and covers almost all of the issues discussed here (especially the frequently repeated ones). He even covers 'root' hiding issues exhaustively. It's a structured evolving database worthy of Magisk which is why I used those adjectives in my post above.

With Magisk GitHub as well as Didge's Magisk Wiki, I think a cumbersome XDA thread is acceptable. - Users should be aware that for this Dev at least, XDA no longer hosts the project's home page, & those who want to do themselves a favour should follow doc links from his GitHub... and even follow his Twitter announcements / musings. 😬 PW
[Magisk] pndwal:
Yup... didn't forget... goes without saying... Just like John... ... better get busy... I'm sure you'd be funny too... If you were allowed... 😜 PW
[Magisk] pndwal:
Yup... yup... .... oh well... and good suggestions, really. ... some won't, but some may get the point... PW
[Magisk] vandyman:
I just like to add,

The Canary release has to be temporarily discussed here because of the latest Android 12 and zygisk releases.

Github is where it's at, but like I said before. Most people do not follow development sites for basic needs.

There are so many great apps that need root and that is the main problem for the basic user. - - - And here lays the problem.
[Magisk] zgfg:
There is all the mess with this General thread, and on top, Search in the thread does no more work on XDA (it used to work)

However, most of 'newbies' (although some of them are Senior members on XDA) that ask basic questions:

- do not even read ChangeLog when updating although it is available by one click from the Magisk app

- and they didn't ever bother to click to the link to Github to open and read Instructions and Wiki

IMHO, this is unbelievable, you install a 'nuclear bomb' but you are too lazy and it bothers you - not you:) to learn basic instructions how to handle the 'bomb'. Sooner or later something will go wrong - it often means that phone will be (soft) bricked - and then you start crying and expect that the whole world stops to give you a click-by-click instructions how to disable modules, etc (although all of that was clearly described in a Wiki and while the phone was operational, it was on 3 clicks from your working Magisk app, bottom of the main window)
[Magisk] Vijay_lalwani:
Hey, thanks for answering the question. Appreciate it.

As for not reading the the changelog, the module part was the last line of the changelog and I agree I didn't went though the whole thing since I didn't really care about the nitty details. I just skimmed through the first few lines and gave up since I am not smart enough to understand it.

I searched the word "modules" in this thread and there were too many posts, I read few of the latest and didn't see any relevance hence I posted the question.

Sorry if it troubles you so much, It was my mistake that I did it in hurry. I ll take care next time.
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
Yep. You know this. I know this. Many "experienced" users know this. Unfortunately, for many others, especially new users, this thread is still the "Magisk main page" (and to a certain extent has become the main XDA page for other non-John Magisk versions) where they look for answers to even the most basic questions. Hopefully people will catch on that GitHub is where it's at and that most answers to questions can be found there.

If not for Google's constant shenanigans....oh well. That's another story.

Anyway...
[Magisk] HippoMan:
I agree. This thread is called "Magisk General Support / Discussion", and not anything like "Technical Details for Advanced Magisk Users". It is therefore reasonable to expect new Magisk users to come here in order to get information on how to initially install and use Magisk.

Furthermore, there are more than 49,000 messages in this thread, and new Magisk users who come here to get help are likely to be overwhelmed, and they would not know where to start reading. There's only a minuscule probability that anyone would randomly choose "October 24, 2021" as any kind of significant date from which to start reading this huge list of messages.

Having some basic info in the OP (such as the info that @pndwal recently posted above) would be extremely helpful to all these users, since users commonly expect this kind of information to be present in the OP.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Ok good that you solved, the hint was:

github fox mmm

(root app to manage the modules, connected to two repositories, old and new)

But it was really in the posts from last days, hence (not properly working) Search was not needed
[Magisk] pndwal:
I see you've said this several times now... Please say what issue you have... All good for me in browser and app. PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
I "Search in this thread" for "Alpha", from the XDA app.

It lists me the whole bunch of posts without a single occurence of the keyword Alpha - see the screenshots

How could I use that 'help' if I really want to search wether the Magisk Alpha was already discussed and particularly e g. how to setup MagiskHide in Alpha?!

SupposevI'm really new to this thread and I really cannot start reading backwards through the hundreds of posts (mostly repaeting questions and answers: Where is the repo in the new Canary, or Why my updated Magisk app does not find the Magisk installed, etc).

Then, I could not do any better but also repeat the.question, thus further poluting the thread and burying down those small number of worth and informative posts
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Literally thousands of posts, actually. This one is number 49,396.

This is a hugely daunting amount of data to dig through. I'm very much in favor of a new thread for advanced Magisk users.
[Magisk] zgfg:
First of all, the problem is why Search 'finds' all posts, not only those containing the keyword

The same would be in the new thread (only with the smaller number of posts)

Over the 12 months, this new XDA forum server and app go from bad to worse
[Magisk] pndwal:
Ah yes, I see issue now...

Since the last time they fiddled with XDA app search I've been using browser. I did confirm search (which was completely broken) did seem to work again, but have really only used app for notifications since. I can confirm Browser does give proper (completely different) results.

I agree the app still leaves a lot to be desired... Hope they get the volunteer app dev(s) they were after soon, or current maintainers can do something... I won't check reports of this issue, but you may do / have done this, or maybe @Didgeridoohan or others could check? 👍 PW
[Magisk] HippoMan:
I put the word "Alpha" in the search box on this XDA web site, and then I selected "This Thread" from the drop-down menu. I got a lot of messages in return, but all of them contained the word "Alpha".

I wonder whether the site is inconsistent in what it returns from searches. Or I wonder if this is only a problem with the app and not the web site itself.

But even in the results that I received, there were nearly 800 messages going back around 5 years.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Well I don't use PC or Desktop site

Mobile phone and Chrome now and I searched for Gamma this time - and again got all (?) possible posts, although for sure, almost no post here talkes about the Gamma keyword

See the screenshots - it did not allow me to scrollshot through the results but you can see that the first post 'found' (to be the 'most relevant'?!), your own post, that has absolutely nothing with Gamma
[Magisk] vandyman:
The advanced user can continue using telegram and github.

Spreading the advanced info here is just surplus.

The advanced users are just being lazy, Geez I would think we had a bunch of newbies here. 😜🤣
[Magisk] JacobBoi_:
Hello, sadly another error approached...

I hope i can post this in this thread.

The problem:

So i did all the stuff installed the module rebooted and disabled Usnf rebooted. And then did some stuff from the documentation of the module but.

I got stuck in the Terminal commands phase...

Hello,

So i did all the stuff you said to do, you know. Disabled the Usnf, installed Mhpc

and Then followed the instructions from the documentation of the Mphc module.

Sadly i got stuck on the terminal commands phase and i have an issue.

(screenshot)

Hello agin,

I dod all the thing you said to do.

Also i am following the guide in this module's documentation.

Sadly i have another issue...

Please reply if you need more info.
[Magisk] Lord Sithek:
Actually if I wouldn't follow this thread I would never know about Magisk Alpha, Magisk Custom, Shamiko and many other useful stuff. I wouldn't know how to find them or if they even exist. So I'm really greatful to all the people who share this info here
[Magisk] m0han:
i'm on the latest Magisk Custom d208be84 (23015) (22). i usually do a dirty install - restore the hidden/renamed magisk manager back to normal before uninstalling, then install the new version, reboot to twrp, flash the renamed (apk to) zip and things are ok after a reboot.
[Magisk] vandyman:
I agree the information is great to have, but no one is stopping anyone from creating a custom aplha thread here on XDA.

My guess no one wants to take the responsibility of being a contributer for the new thread.

I am all for closing this thread when v24 is released.

History repeats is self, remember the Chainfire Super Su threads. I do not blame the man for steering away from xda.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Not only that but it would be naturally to have developer involved (however, vvb2060 is not an XDA member)

Then it would be a similar case we already have here, when TJW left the XDA
[Magisk] V0latyle:
If this thread is specifically for discussing the Magisk app and patch, the thread title should be changed accordingly. If I were having problems with a particular module, this would seem like the most reasonable place to me to ask questions.

As far as repetitive questions...that's just going to happen. You can try cutting down on this by addressing specific issues in the OP, but it's pretty insane to expect someone to read through over 49,000 posts to try to find an answer to their problem.

At the end of the day, we are all expected to abide by and uphold the rules. As a reminder:

While I understand it can be frustrating to deal with new and inexperienced users, not to mention at times annoying, you are still expected to conduct yourself in a professional and civil manner, even if you're a Recognized Contributor or developer. Any sort of public shaming or ridicule is a direct violation of the forum rules, and will not be tolerated from anyone.

I hope we understand each other.
[Magisk] vandyman:
Exactly, I want Magisk to March forward.

No root, no modding.

Someone needs to take responsibility or close the thread.

There is close to fifty thousand post here of chaos.

The are multiple how to root threads in just about every device thread.

The contributer or developer of said threads. Clearly points people in the right direction without all the BS.

I will shut up and what everybody wants here.

To be clear I can also post about any Magisk topic here.

Example ;

How can I root my Atari 2600 and add the angry birds module. Should I use version 23, Canary, beta, alpha. Please help, I don't understand. Lol
[Magisk] vandyman:
Got it, post at will.

Thank you for the clarification.

That is all I asked.

On a side note, I thought that a mod in the past said this not the place for discussion on modules. There is a thread for that he had stated.
[Magisk] rodken:
Try this within the search box:

"magisk-alpha"