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[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] androidfantic32:
Ugh why do I have to get into this again. HTC should pay me for breaking these falsehoods man.

The consensus is that the loudness of the m8/m9 is much higher but the actual quality is better on the 10. Just browse these forums for audio testing and you'll see for yourself. Regardless, in this generation of flagship phones, it's well above average so NOT mediocre. If you are only beaten by yourself, how are you mediocre compared to everyone else? Plus the headphone Jack quality/loudness is better than anything now and bests the m8/m9.

Do some research man on the camera man! Seriously, the thought that the s7 is better at this point is debunked. Anandtech, DXOmark Phonearena, GSMArena, Krystal from Android authority on YouTube (pretty much every recent camera review on there actually) , the camera forum here. The 10 is just as good overall camerawise (wins and loses in different situations).

The 10 isn't mediocre. It's a very good phone.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Chord_Hugo87:
uhm you do realized quality on a speaker phone doesnt have any merit correct? first of all, Phone quality are so bad, there is no way you can discern the difference to where it "matters", you are not going to do critical listening with a phone, you are going to watch youtube and the radio listening, thus you do NOT need quality. Second if the speakers doesnt generate enough volume like the HTC one M8 or M9 then no matter how good it is, it still doesnt matter. I spent thousand on audio equipment, am somewhat of an audiophile , you wont win in this matter.

Do some research? I just show you my evidence, do you not comprehend what I wrote? and the link I post was GSMARENA! now you give me proof to where HTC 10 camera is "equal" or better than the S7. Burden of proof is on you!

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http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...-S7-LG-G5-low-light-camera-comparison_id80396

here you go another camera comparison...I'm still waiting on your proof.

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heres your android authority

http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-shootout-results-690429/

O look where HTC 10 is.....
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] androidfantic32:
You are very troll like. It is hard to take you seriously.

Camera: https://youtu.be/bU0JC0NnQV0 (directly conflicts with the written review so take it as you want)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best...S7-iPhone-6s-Plus-LG-G5-HTC-10_id83011/page/3

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-10-dxomark-camera-rating-686101/

https://youtu.be/szgCpoU_Nzs

(Pair that vid with this, http://xdaforums.com/htc-10/how-to/htc-10-camera-thread-t3358858/page103 [3rd post] )

I refuse to post anymore of these. You asked for "one", I gave you four with the promise of many more so you're the one looking ignorant here. Go check out the camera thread. Look it up and judge for yourself.

With regards to audio: https://youtu.be/AoQTnH2hBeo (hint: they are comparable)

You are utterly wrong. Please try to troll harder next time.

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You love to post pre-update comparisons I see. How factual and objective, not to mention fair and unbiased you are. Hats off to you sir, apprentice of the trolling masters.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Chord_Hugo87:
Wow you cannot be that dumb.. first of all I own both phone S7 edge and HTC 10, I also owned the HTC one M8 and M9 you must be out of your mind to think the speaker volume level are the same.

now on to the camera, the two youtube you post from android authority, clearly none of them pick HTC 10 as the better camera, they all says it comes to personal preference. As a matter of fact, the one with Krystal from Android authority point out the fault of the HTC 10 way more than other phone, wtf did you even listen to the reviews? Just because the HTC 10 is being compare with S7 and Iphone 6plus does not make it "better" or "equal".

You need to look at your sources again because all it does is just prove my case and prove you have no idea what you are talking about or comprehending the reviewers of the video. Second point, if the score are off like that it just mean the camera on the HTC is a hit or miss, you may get good picture some of the time but not reliable enough to get it all the time.

I cant be a troll if I own both phone you idiot... I'm a troll if I own samsung and I come in here and bash HTC, but I own both phone like previously stated. You are just too stupid to acknowledge the fact you got a mediocre phone.

way to point to a HTC 10 thread as a burden of proof, thats like asking McDonald employees if their food is healthy or not...Hope you are not a college student, with that type of research, guaranteed drop out.

Finally, whatever you or I say is irrelevant, whats relevant is in the sales figure and what user picked in the may 3rd android authority, and it clear what the average user pick for "blind test" and it also clear that HTC fall short making HTC 10, better luck next year if they dont go bankrupt. With that i'm not going to reply to this as I dont think I need to.

http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-shootout-results-690429/5/
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] androidfantic32:
Sigh.

If choosing between something is based on preference then one choice is not objectively better than the other which means they are equal overall with different strengths. Otherwise, they'd declare a clear winner right? Did you watch the video? Yep! I watched the video and it seemed to me that the only issue they had was the low light photos which obviously comes from an oily lens (what I linked the proof of). In fact, with that rectified, they called it the clear winner in low light shots. I hope you understand that but I doubt you will.

The camera thread is great because it shows basically every comparison between the cameras of flagships (albeit pre update) and it shows that the 10 could even match the S7 then in some instances which is enough to qualify my statements. I thought you'd actually look at the thread instead of running your mouth but I guess I have to spell out everything for you. How sad.

I like how I proved my point and answered your original query anyway by showing you a site where they call the 10 clearly better than the s7 in the camera department but you choose to ignore that to continue a fruitless conversation.

Surprise! I have owned/used the m9, m8 and currently have the s7 edge and the 10! That proves nothing to me.

For sound: As I have said, loudness is great but quality is more important to me. It's quieter but sounds very nice with a good dynamic range to the sound. I enjoy it and literally every review calls it better than everything else out there for flagships. I'm not sure how this makes it mediocre ; you've proven nothing except that HTC didn't top the m8 for you, yet you refuse to accept that it is better than other flagships.

Frankly, you sound very foolish and I highly doubt you have the phone. Lol at taking shots at my education. If I'm writing something persuasive, I assume my audience has some intelligence/prior knowledge/ wisdom but I made the wrong assumption here. I'm sorry man. I forgot to lead you along every step of the way. My mistake.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] wakers:
I would rather smash my face against a wall for 24hrs than own a phone with touch wiz on it, it's all personal preference, there's such small differences between flagship phones these days that you can't go wrong with any of them, personally I think HTC got it right with the 10 I'm actually over due an upgrade with work and don't want another phone at the moment, as for tmobile, could be they aren't selling enough, could be they are selling too many, who knows...
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] glcK23:
So the moderator deleted my thread because this one exists. This one is cluttered with trolls bickering, ugh. Hope HTC 10 continues to release updates past Android N.

Or else I'll Jump! to something else, sure wish this phone received more credit, camera and battery life after the latest update really improved this phone. I'm 4 weeks of uptime without rebooting my phone... Everything works as expected, see if you can try that with a Samsung lol.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] glcK23:
Oh yes.....
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] tkoreaper:
Just ignore the Troll... They obviously refuse to change their mind and can't see the forest through the trees.

I don't get it... you commend how great the phone is, but then threaten to move on to a new device just because you think it won't be updated lol.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] androidfantic32:
Yeah I'm dumb for responding. I'm just irritated that T-Mobile would do this. Hopefully it's to make room for the HTC Nexus and they will still update the phone.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] hammondnav:
^^^ This.

HTC has had major supply chain issues going all the way back to the original M7. It's what happens when Apple and Sammy flex their purchasing power and muscle out smaller OEMs.

The second reason for this removal is HTC's quality. More specifically, quality when you consider the price. Samsung's hardware is far superior at this point (wasn't always the case) and to be honest, their software is also better.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] retro486:
When I contacted T-Mobile support, they said it's due to lack of inventory.

Not sure where you're getting the quality reason; I have the HTC 10 and it's fantastic. The only difference in hardware is the screen, battery and camera. Same 820 chipset, same 4 gigs of ram, same 32 gb storage... if anything the HTC is nicer because it doesn't have all of Samsung's duplicate apps and such so I'm going with a hard disagree on the software front.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] wakers:
My missus has the s7 edge and it looks lovely, great screen that's as far as it goes, I can't stand using the thing, how much bloat does it come with, sense over touchwiz any day, I would also argue that although the HTC doesn't have such a shiny exterior quality is right up there with anything else... Arrgghh I've been trolled again...
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Excuse me care to elaborate on how samsungs hardware and touchcrap software could possibly be better than Htc's lol. That is a joke you really either work for samsung or you live in your own little world and not the real world lol. Htc's hardware is top of the line and they ( Htc ) have the best build quality and Htc's software is about as close to pure google as you can get without being a Nexus. I have no clue why samsung people feel the need to come to the Htc forums and try to put down Htc products. And for the record I would rather see my money go to Taiwan rather than to Korea enough said...
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] entropism:
As a neutral party, I have the S7, the S7 edge, and the 10, and honestly I'd put the S7 and the 10 neck & neck. HTC's feels better in hand, has much better speakers, and feels MUCH more durable. The S7 has that sexy AMOLED, not that the 10's LCD isn't gorgeous, and a slightly better camera. If HTC did the smart thing and priced the phone lower, they could have took off running. Instead they left that to OnePlus and HTC sunk further into the depths.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
You know folks, if we all take a step back and we'll see that it's T-Mobile that discontinued a T-Mobile branded HTC 10, for whatever reasons we can only guess. But... HTC is not going out of business any time soon and HTC did not cancel or discontinued the sale of unlocked HTC 10.

I bought an unlocked HTC 10 directly from the HTC webstore and in my personal opinion it's a better option for buying a device. And no, I did not fork over $600 dollars upfront. I am financing it through PayPal instead of T-Mobile. But having no carrier bloatware and, theoretically, faster upgrades, etc. is well worth it. In the last 3-4 years I've been buying only the unlocked devices and couldn't be more pleased with that decision.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] mrro82:
I traded in my S7 Edge for the 10. Root, unlocked bootloader, and just feeling like I'm in control of my phone were the big reasons I traded it. I like this phone a lot and I'm glad I traded in when I did if T Mobile isn't going to sell them anymore. Touchwiz and the bloat are killers for me. HTC did it right IMO on the 10. I'm quite happy.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] androidfantic32:
I'd like to see how many one plus 3 's were sold TBH. I don't think 1+3 and HTC are in competition at the carrier level which is the real issue I think for them. I'm glad you have a good, well thought out opinion though. It's a breath of fresh air lol
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] justcallmeTHEKID:
The 10 came off the shelf cause t mobile will be stocking both sailfish and marlin, and will be advertised as Google and HTC. Removal was to keep the 10 from cutting into the nexus line. Everything I heard was the HTC 10 met expectations for HTC for sales figures.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] M9guy:
The Htc 10 is easily worth every penny just as much if not more than a slower locked down samsung model. I see their point why should they sell their premium model for the prices of the other not so well known competitors. If someone wants the cheap models let them buy cheap, when it comes to phones you get what you pay for. There are just too many uninformed buyers that only buy by a name and not buying the best quality product available. The phone market is full of sheep they blindly follow the herd even if they go right off a cliff lol. It sucks for Htc because they make better products only for ignorant people to buy nothing more than a name.

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Just where is this documentation of tmobile discontinuing the Htc 10 ???? I see people posting this so please provide a link or links to where this claim is documented ? If you have no proof then your just gossiping and spreading rumors.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] entropism:
You REALLY need to tone down the fanboy arguing, it's pretty tiresome. I mean, there's being a fan, and there's shilling. You're bordering on sarcastic trolling at this point.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] M9guy:
Please take peoples claims with a grain of salt as tmobile has admittedly had supply issues with the Htc 10 and until someone provides documentation of this then its all just rumor and possibly being fueled by samsung lovers. Some may claim they like Htc but they sure seem to bash Htc and praise samsung. I mean really the extent people go to, to put down the competition. Honestly no one should believe a word of this whole thread as its all rumors and no documentation of anything. Maybe I should go on samsung forums and spread rumors about samsung products, as this is nothing more than rumors and people trying to spew propaganda that they have no proof of.

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Maybe people should not post undocumented rumors and the only fanboys that are bashing here are samsung. My posts are not bashing samsung only wanting the bashing to stop and stop trying to spread rumors.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] **Dark Star **:
I know this isn't the place.....but is there an easy root guide?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
That's true that T-Mobile "may" be having supply issues and really did not discontinue the device. But if they did discontinue it, do you expect a formal press release? They have done this before many times before. Drop a not so popular or not well selling device and not let anyone to know.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] tkoreaper:
Care to give some examples of Flagship phones that they dropped months after release?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Stephen:
Moderator Warning,

Can we keep this thread on topic please, regarding T-Mobile sales of the HTC 10. There are other comparison threads in the Q&A section
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] nofroyo:
Quick question, since T-Mobile stocked caring this device, what are our support options if our phone breaks? Will they have one avaiable for swap? or are we SOL
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
Motorola Defy back in 2010.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] wakers:
Could be and i'm just speculating, that if HTC missed targets for supply that T Mobile have made the decision to stop selling the phone because for one they don't have phones to sell and they don't want to let customers down, there's nothing worse for a company to promise customers products that Don't turn up on time, frustrating all round....
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] tkoreaper:
That wasn't a flagship device and it was littered with issues. When you said "They have done this before many times before " I was expecting to see "many" devices listed, but you only listed one.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
Just called T-Mobile and simply asked if it was discontinued. The answer was, "Yes!" and internal memo came out a few days ago.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] entropism:
The Priv and the Xperia Z3 come to mind. It doesn't happen often, though.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] syntropic:
I'm still going to track one down even if it means calling every t-mobile store in the U.S.

Otherwise, it's off to Verizon (which pains me greatly).
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Sammae7:
BestBuy also seems to have given up on this phone. None in stock instore or online. My local BestBuy even searched the four/five surrounding states and said none of those BestBuys have any either.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
If you don't mind me asking but why don't you just buy the unlocked developer version from HTC directly? I have T-Mobile and bought the phone directly from HTC. All of the special features like VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling work very well. I get the latest software quicker than T-Mobile's HTC 10 would, no carrier bloatware and I financed it via PayPal. Win-win.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] metalfan78:
I did the same thing.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] syntropic:
I think I'm still frustrated with TMO because like most here, I am an HTC fan. But I'm a TMO fan too...and it just seemed so silly of them to drop that phone (the costs would have been minimal to keep it available as a website order-only phone). A lot of my post reflected that frustration.

I was just thinking that ten years ago, I'd buy new phones almost every year (although I doubt they were more than $350), so I probably should just buy it outright. Yet, I never even considered alternative financing like PayPal— which I'll definitely check out. Do they have a rate that's better than a credit card?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] xela19115:
Yes, the PayPal's rate was 0% financing for me.
[OnePlus X General] Ashareth:
Just a question, is there any OnePlus X rom that is compatible with RRO Layers ? If yes, wich ones ?

Most i can find use/support the CM Theme Engine, wich means they aren't compatible if i understood it properly.
[OnePlus X General] Jude Aranha:
In case you didn't notice, Layers is Depreciated now, Substratum has taken its Place. Some Google-fu will get you better results.

And yes, many ROMs use(d) Layers, a lot of them have now moved up from RRO to OMS, you can check my Index for a list of all available ROMS.
[OnePlus X General] Ashareth:
Hum no i hadn't noticed, guess it's something else i missed (rahhh it's getting complicated in the end :D).

Thanx for the info. ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] its.ben.real:
Hi, everyone. I'm new to the forums and am looking for a little insight on my device. I've been interested in rooting android devices for a long time and have successfully done so on a few occasions. I've used poot, kinoroot, androot and some others that escape me right now.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab E lite...

Model: SM-T113

Android Version: 4.4.4

I've accessed the developer options and enabled USB debugging...

It's unrooted right now... I have a pc laptop to do USB debugging if need be...

What i'm wanting to do guys is get the most out of my tablet by rooting and flashing for better ROM, this way I can learn and at the same time optimize my device to its fullest potential while also engaging in this new online community. The only problem I have is the reason I just cant out-right experiment with my tablet and which is why I've come here to you tech-gurus for help...

I CANNOT brick my tablet. It was a gift from my brother and the first one he bought me I accidently bricked by not doing enough research while trying to root it. He returned it and bought me an even nicer one then told me specifically not to try and ROOT it...

haha.. he should've known better.

So if anyone has an advice or keen insight on all the necessary steps to backing it up, rooting it, and maybe even doing whatever it takes to flash more ROM... I would highly appreciate it. I apologize if this new thread angers anyone.

Many thanks and I look forward to learning from you all.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AverageLibrarian:
So no matter how many times I edit the build.prop and reboot the darn navbar will not go away! HELP!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mustyrash:
can you give us an idea of what youre doing - what app youre using, the code youre putting in etc
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AverageLibrarian:
I am using ES file explorer to go to the build.prop and add qemu.hw.mainkeys=1 to the end of it. This worked before but I completely wiped my phone (literally everything) and flashed blissrom back onto it and now it doesn't. I believe it is the latest version of blissrom.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coremania:
On mm auto hide soft keys from playstore was the best solution for me, it's worth the money
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poodleDoo:
Xposed with Gravity Box module will give you that and a lot more
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lordhavmercy:
Bluetooth not working, can't be activated. As soon I turn it on it gets turned off immediately or it makes my tab stutter and freeze. If it does connect it will disconnect as soon as i press play on any media player or video player.:crying::crying:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] cherubashe:
i only have a mac now and i was told to use Heimdall to do STUFF. I am on Lollipop, rooted, and would like to unroot, and update to Marshmallow... Do i use the necessary files from here, and use in Heimdall as if it was just like odin.. i mean will it read the files like it was a pc... Thanks in advance...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] cherubashe:
Which stock package. Lollipop or marshmallow?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] koop1955:
If you want to update to Marshmallow, then use Marshmallow.

I don't think any of use here have experience with Heimdall. Before trying, if I were you, I would watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7u-iUo5C6M

You should search for some others as well until you feel that you have a good understanding.
[X2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ramy3r:
[solved read more below]

Guys can anyone please provide a step by step guide for installing nokia x2ds stock with nokia care suite

problem i faced:

-i downloaded nokia x2ds software from MrCrap

-i put the files at .../packages/RM-1013

-i start nokia care suite and chose product support tool

-i open RM-1013 product then chose recovery

!@$$#@ BUT IT DOESNT DETECT THE DOWNLOADED SOFTWARE IDK WHY :crying:

i used the right product code 059V782

so please if anyone can help asap provide the guide :fingers-crossed:

[Edit]

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the directory should be C:\ProgramData\Nokia\Packages\Products\RM-1013

instead of C:\ProgramData\Nokia\Packages\RM-1013 :p

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if anybody wants a detailed guide for how to reinstall latest nokia x2ds software via nokia care suite just let me know :D
[X2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devnikolus:
You should download recovery through nokia care. I never tried but probably the tool don't detect third party downloaded recoveries.