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[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxyluv:
Nice!!That's always good news!

Makes it harder for me to choose ...either pre-order Snapdragon + gift (still have time) OR get the Exynos (for better battery, support, etc) N930F model!! Both have unlocked bootloader from what I know- decisions, decisions....
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] AndrewSE:
I decided to try this screen protector out.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01HCH09SQ/ref=pe_386430_203971590_TE_item
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
How did you get the gold note? International version?

Id order one of those if it was clear but gold on silver will look like ****e lol
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] AndrewSE:
I ordered the black version ... not sure why link defaulted to gold.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mohammedessam:
The problem with these screen protector is that they dont have adhesive on the whole screen, the adhesive is only on the edges so you'll have the rainbow effect on the screen and the screen would be raised

I ordered the spigen one

https://www.amazon.ca/Protector-Spi...71468584&sr=8-1&keywords=Note+7+spigen+screen
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
The problem with the one you linked is its not glass :D

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Yeah but the problem with this is samsung is full of crappola lol.

They told me a few weeks ago in an online chat the note 7 here is exynos and I took screenshots of them saying that...we know how true that is now.

They did tell me in the samsung store it would be 820 though and also added the BL will not be locked once i got to someone who knew what a bootloader is lol
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Sent you some $$ for some beer. Eagerly awaiting some development for the note 7. Thanks!

Sent from my Blackberry Bold

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Cancel it. Mako is a waste of money. All glass screen protectors are awful. I would recommend the spigen screen protectors.

Sent from my Blackberry Bold

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Iq shield is very solid. I recommend.

Sent from my Blackberry Bold
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @Class:
Well that's good news hopefully I get a call on the 18th or 19th... If they're shipped from Tech Source Canada in Missauga to the store as well, I'm not holding my breath really for the 19th.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
Stopped by Rogers to check out the phone in person and BOY is it nice. Really digging grace UI. It's super clean.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] spex714:
Contacted Samsung / Tech Data Canada and got a consist response from them. See below
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jmitr:
Oh hell, been using HTC since 2005 but just pre ordered at the Richmond experience store. My Wife has the Note 4, my Mother In law has the Note 5, now they can stop bugging me about my small phone lol!
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
Let me know how it goes =)
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Obs1234:
Yes..thats right...scream at a helpless front desk jockey...that def makes sense....

Def want to hear what happens tho..
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
I never scream, gets you nowhere.....that type of tactic is for children.

And the desk jockey will need to escalate...I would think thats obvious although there have been a few occasions where they were able to meet my requirements on the spot. I am not expecting that to happen in this instance though.

And dude save the troll like comments for someone else next time please and thank you.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
I keep my calm and cool but when they start being ignorant bastards to me thats when i lose my ****. I already spoke to the business side and I said, What gives you (Rogers) the right to cut off a paying client, what difference does it make TO YOU what phone I use on your network .. ahhh ahhhhh ahhh... Its at samsungs request thats when I said you know this ****ing saddens me, this just goes to show me how much you all give a sh1t about a paying client, how about i just jump service providers, hows that sound?.. Well if thats what you want to do sir, i will transfer you over the right department. Thats it I had to hang up before i was gonna totally lose my ****! Rogers doesn't give a ratz a$$!! I also told them why dont you release my upgrade, why do I still have a upgrade fee if you rendered my phone useless.. They said return the phone to samsung or a rogers store and you will have no upgrade fees, I said what about all my cables i bought (USB Type C) also the 3 phone cases, o well you have to deal with samsung for that.. This whole situation is such a sh1tshow and im just so not impressed with either the way Rogers or Samsung is handling this. Furthermore my note 7 was kind of defective to begin with, as my speakerphone kind of crackled when playing media so within the 7 day period i requested a new one .. did that ever get fulfilled.. Nope.. Nothing.. BS!!
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] llsektorll:
As a roger's desk jockey I can 100% confirm that getting pissed at a random sales person or roger's tech support will accomplish nothing, but waste your time and give the guy you talked to one ****ty day. Only person I'd contact here if you want to vent is Samsung.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] moegrease:
Llsektroll since you work at rogers do you know how they are blocking the n7's from getting on the network? (sorry if I am asking the obvious or if you have been asked a million times, figured it would be worth a shot)
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Definitely not obvious.

So ive been to 3 diff rogers stores and called in twice and spoke to 2 diff people.

None of them knows (or are not telling) how it being blocked and everyone i spoke to said this was samsung...again they could be full or crap or that's what they are told to say.

My imei is intact and if it was blacklisted that would show on my account and it doesnt.

Its a mystery and until we know how they are being blocked we cant work around it

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
I just checked my Note 7 IMEI on Canada national blacklist and the message is... "Your device HAS NOT been reported lost or stolen and is not currently on the national blacklist". This means that the operators blocked the IMEI or ESN number by themselves. They are not going to acknowledge that because I think they are at borderline of legality.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] funkydude101:
Has anyone been able to exchange the colour of their S7 Edge replacement at the Samsung store in Sherway? Mine will be going to my wife and she will probably want the gold colour.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
There is a lot more than just Imei block. Other people were not successful as well Force, they get the same answer. Who knows it could be Samsung.

We know some countries block it including us in Canada. US phones are fine! They also say US carriers will not let Samsung drive their customers away therefore what happened in Canada will not pass in US.

Here is something odd. Very odd.

My green N7 is blocked. My white N7 is still working like nothing happen on my gf Corp network! So why is that?

Sammy, missed one phone?

Rogers, did't fvck with that corp account?

Is that phone somehow from US? and sammy only blocked what they have in canada list inventory, because if it be network block im sure they'd see the phone online US model or not.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
Definitely. OR, the method outlined in that thread on that other site doesn't actually change the IMEI that the network sees, which is my hunch.

There just isn't enough information available at this time.

My bet is that her Note7 is still a first-wave release phone and that batch simply wasn't blocked.

I cannot recall if there was anyone else in Canada who mentioned that they still have a first-wave Note7. It would be helpful to hear feedback from them to compare results.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] NIKKOTUASON:
I'm still using the original Note 7 (N930FD) on Koodo and its running as it should with 100% batt. I've also inserted my Rogers SIM that works fine too. I hope they leave it at this at least.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
I think Force has one as well, im may have to be correct - not too sure. Now that i think about he may have returned it.

My is W8 which is probably is the worse thing that happened to us =)

ps, is your phone unlocked or Koodo works with rogers phones?
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
His phone is an international model (FD) so it is unlocked if it works on Koodo.

Good to know that international phones still work in Canada. So chances are US phones would as well. Now, how to get our hands on some non-W8 Note7s...
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] NIKKOTUASON:
I bought my Note 7 off eBay and it came unlocked.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
I had an FD and stupid me returned it and now have a 2nd gen rogers version.

Found a guy local who has an unlocked telus phone which now doesnt work on telus but does work on rogers. I think i found a site which can unlock my rogers device and if it works with his telus sim we may have a work around to those Aholes booting our devices off of the networks

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
:good::good: keep me updated
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Me also please [emoji4]
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Will do fellas, waiting for my unlock code still

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
My note 7 is a first wave, ordered from Rogers, Never got a replacement (green battery) one and its blocked. I was gonna try unlock it but that doesnt really help me as im on a Rogers business plan...
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
I know what you mean. On Rogers I have multiple lines and each has a phone subsidy. Even if the unlock thing worked, I can't switch networks without getting a massive bill. As much of what I do is tied to my phone number, I couldn't get much use out of my Note7 even with a new line under a different carrier. So it would be cool for others if the unlock thing worked, but it wouldn't help me at all.

It's interesting that your first wave Note7 is blocked but some others aren't. Have you tried rooting yet? I'm curious if changing the IMEI plus changing all identifying information in build.prop would get it back on the network.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
There hasn't been root available for months :confused:

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
If he's got the white battery and his battery life isn't crippled, he should be on an early enough firmware to still be able to root.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Its possible but he will need to be on the very first OTA we had once the phone was powered on for the first time in August. If that is the case he is in rare company...almost no device left with that firmware on it!

That was the only firmware compatible with the sprint engineering root method.

A screen shot of his software version would be helpful.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
I got screwed with the 60% battery firmware and then flashed back... Not on original software (api3) but i know better for next time to use package disabler right from the get go when i get a new samsung or for that matter, android phone (period). This whole BS situation goes to show me just how much control they have over our phones and it really intrigues me to keep them out! (If I had the $, id go sue crazy!) That's why I think merica will never imei block..
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
Not entirely true. The first OTA was also root compatible. I know because I took that OTA on release day and rooted my Note 7 two and a half weeks later using the Sprint method.

I don't recall hearing of any updates to the Canadian firmware between the day-one OTA and the version that the replacement phones came with. This version was soon available as an OTA for first-wave Note7s, but all it did was begun the whole crippling process (I believe it started with the rampant warnings). Neither original nor replacement phones could be rooted at that point, so I believe that version is the point of no return.

All the info should be further back in this thread, though I don't really have the time or patience to search back through it all. :)
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yeah exactly lol....the first OTA (APH1) was the only rootable one anything after that was a no go.

Id kill to have a device on that firmware!
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
I just want somebody with a rooted (and carrier blocked) W8 to change identifiers in build.prop and see if it gets them back online. It would answer a lot of questions (even if it doesn't unblock the rest of us).
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
From what Rogers told me, spoke to a business rep.. Just now.. It was Samsung slowly black listing all note 7 imei's in Canada on a North American blacklist. She does not understand why the American phones have not been black listed as of yet either. ..... !!? Next is call Samsung... She said it had nothing to do with Rogers, all Samsung she also said any phone manufacturer can blacklist a phone not only a carrier as in this case it and she clearly stated this, it was not a carrier blacklist.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sevael:
I'm willing to bet that she was making assumptions. Others have been told conflicting stories by their provider's reps. Hell, no matter what the question, you can talk to five different reps and get five different answers.

It's not like these companies go and give their reps all the grizzly details of every little thing; they just send out a memo with basic information and leave it at that. The rest typically ends up being conjecture. I can tell you this with the utmost confidence because I experience it within my own organization on a daily basis. Very little genuine information actually trickles down the chain to the public-facing employees.

Based on posts here and elsewhere, there are three relevant pieces of information that I am aware of:

1) Several people claim that their blocked Note7s work when using a SIM card from a different provider.

2) At least a couple people have checked the national blacklist and their phone was

not

on it, yet it is still blocked from their network.

3) All the Telus Note7 users who were blocked were all blocked on the same day. I believe the Bell users were blocked that day or the next day. All the Rogers/Fido people were blocked the following week on the same day as each other.

Points 1 and 2 lead me to believe (along with other information we have gathered) that the carriers are the ones doing the blocking, not Samsung themselves. It's not like the carriers would readily admit to privately blocking these phones on their network, since that would open up a potential alley for recourse. Furthermore, there are services which will get an IMEI removed from the national blacklist, yet apparently none of them work to get the Note7s connected again.

Point 3 says to me that it wasn't a slow process of blacklisting by Samsung. If they were the ones doing it, they have ALL of the IMEIs so they would probably just do all of them at once. Even if the IMEIs were keyed by hand by two or three people, you could easily get every Canadian Note7 entered on the blacklist in a single work shift. And it's unlikely it was done by hand; we do similar data entry where I work and stuff like that is done by submitting blocks of numbers and a macro can pump them all into a database in seconds. And we have a pretty antiquated system. Furthermore, if it were Samsung putting in an array of IMEIs to block, it would make sense to block the entire world supply of Note7s to discourage people from importing and trading them to get around the block. Yet people with a Rogers Note7 seem to get service simply by putting a Telus SIM card in...

It really sounds like each carrier has simply blocked the Note7s that were distributed to their customers and nothing else. It's not like they would readily admit this; they wouldn't want the public knowing what a half-assed job they did.

It is possible that that rep is right and all these other people have been lying, but I trust big company reps about as far as I can throw them. :p
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Samsung said long time ago that is working with Canadian mobile providers to shutdown Note 7. My phone IMEI is not on national blacklist but is not working on Bell anymore. The conclusion: Bell is lying big time! They think we are idiots or they don't care. Or maybe both. Usually those reps they don't have any technical knowledge. The moment when you ask about advanced technical details you can see... they're lost...
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
And no go on the unlock, they refunded me...was skeptical this would be possible.

Damn.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Damn... I already have an unlock code from two websites (is the same unlock code) but due to some security patch is not working. I remember those guys from cellunlocker.net they told me after a couple of weeks they have new codes but I didn't tryed again. Maybe I should take a look if they are still available.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yeah its too bad.

I may try and buy a telus device unlocked so i can use a note 7 again but of course there is no way to tell how long it will work for so a bit of a gamble.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
Goes to show you how vulnerable these devices actually are. You buy them, but you have no control. If it is not the carriers, then clearly there is a back door that allows those that want to, to block any device from accessing the network. Samsung just chose to use it.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
Exactly!! I sent samsung an email, the Note 7 department and they called me today asking if i returned my note 7 ... So you.. DID NOT read the email you a$$clowns!! ... I told them to unblock my north american imei block that they put on my n7 .... No reply yet.... and about 7 other paragraphs...
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zerojay:
It won't happen. It's a recalled product. Allowing you to use it again is against the law and both you and them are liable for anything that could happen.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] emann56:
Actually in Canada it's still a voluntary recall. I contacted Health Canada to confirm. Even the GM and Toyota fiascos, those were voluntary as well.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zerojay:
Yes, it is a voluntary recall. Unfortunately, you don't seem to understand what the term means. A "voluntary recall" means that Samsung is recalling the product voluntarily as opposed to a mandatory recall which means Samsung is being forced by the government to recall the product.

It does NOT mean that you have any choice in sending your product back - it's not you that "voluntary" is referring to. Selling or giving the product away is still just as illegal and allowing you to continue to use the product is also illegal for Samsung.

Give it up, boys.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Thanks for advice "dady" but... you don't have anything else to do???

PS. Please check my signature!
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zerojay:
Enjoy being criminally liable should anything bad happen.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
I'm a gentleman and for that all can I say is... please leave this thread.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zerojay:
What is wrong? Can't handle the truth when faced with it? My leaving or not is actually voluntary. :)
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Daddy want some action?
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zerojay:
Sorry to disappoint but I don't come to XDA for that so I'm going to have to turn you down on your offer.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
It was a rhetorical question. Don't bother...
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] emann56:
Actually it's a joint recall with Health Canada and yes it is the correct voluntary I am referring. Give them a call if you don't believe me.

It is not illegal to keep the device in Canada. This info was provided by Health Canada.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
Samsung read my lips: I'm ? not?gonna ?return?my?phone?. It's ?my?property ?. You're ?not?gonna ?see it ?never?ever?. Love?you?Samsung!????
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] emann56:
The truth is that it is not illegal to keep the device. It is only illegal to sell or distribute the device.

You have to remember that we live in Canada and not the USA. Our laws are different.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
This is the health Canada page.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pubs/indust/ccpsa_ref-lcspc/index-eng.php

This is the quote :

No one is allowed to advertise or sell a consumer product that they know is the subject of a recall order or that has been voluntarily recalled because it is a danger to human health or safety.

So you are 100% correct. I think that the usage of said product is still hazardous and preventing usage is sort of implied for safety reasons. But you are right.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yeah Ill second that.

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gyozaman:
Bad news for some of us. Samsung is starting their daily calls again. It was very quiet in Dec but it appears the harassing starts again.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rafeba:
I changed my provider long time ago. Good luck Samsung. But wait... maybe they want to offer us a better deal. A free Note 8 would be nice.
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] moegrease:
I have been recieving stupid notices in the mail (certified mail) I think this is my fourth in 3 or 4 weeks
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
Have you told them NO im not giving it back .. I just called 855.747.6520 the other day and told em that and they gave me an email, so i wrote a 7 paragraph letter basically stating my opinion on the matter......... Address, snapshots of my phone, my bill, the cases i bought for it, usb type c cables, and told em im letting my kids play with it ........ Still waiting on a response! This was 3 days ago now .. called back the ph# and they said, "o a response from there can take upwards of 10 days.. .. .. "
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] moegrease:
Ya i have told them.... And they don't seem to give up..... I think it's funny you told them that your kids are playing with the phone.... And they are not freaking out! [emoji1]
[Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SamsungG:
I figured id throw that in! I also sent them a screenshot of the phone 100% charged and my software info (api3)... I mean i didnt just leave it there i said, "Do i have to turn to apple." My phones been running since aug 23rd w/out a flaw do u not think it would of decided to explode by now if it had plans on doing so .. I also stated im disgusted in the way they have handled the situation but am more than willing to sign a disclosure to null any warranty or incidents that may or may not occour during use of the product. I also listed what i do day to day with the phone and am NOT willing to go back in time with a downgrade! If anything reimburse me and give me a s7 to use till a note 8 is available! In the meantime then and only then will i give you my note 7 back. (in a written agreement). Otherwise i will seek legal action on grounds that this is a voluntary recall. When a vehicle manufacture claims a recall ... I dont see them remotely disabling a consumers vehicle... What gives you the right to do this? Voluntary = Key word!!