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[Moto Z Real Life Review] Dhalsim43:
Yes, after a big system update, a factory reset is recommended or at least a cache wiping
[Moto Z Real Life Review] kirkx10:
It is possible to change the resolution with the following commands:

adb shell wm size <WxH>

adb shell wm density <value_in_pxels>

Anyone tried it to see if the screen on time gets better? I tried a little bit with 720x1280 pixels, but it looked very unsharp (but guess that is unavoidable on such big screen).

Edit:

I have been reading up abit about it and for other devices it has not helped much at all for the battery life.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] SuperMango123:
how do you manage that i can't get 3h sot with moderate use, some text messages, 2 YT videos and maybe some IG browsing
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Zephalon:
I have the phone for half a year now and I barely get 2 1/2 hour screen on time with a fully charged phone. In day-to-day use this means the battery is half dead after 6 hours even though I've actively used the phone only for about half an hour.

I'm a moderate user but this phone does NOT give you a full day of runtime. I'm using stock ROM at the moment with only a hand full of apps. The battery life so abysmal that I'll switch to another phone soon.

[EDIT] I've kept the phone away from the charger at work today just to get you guys an example. I used the phone for 40 minutes overall and the battery reached 5% after 10 hours. Then I charged it up to 50% and it still did not last the rest of the day.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] layercake87:
same here. barely 2h of screen on time with 10h from 100%-0%. only very moderate use. almost all apps restricted from background data use. that is just simply poor battery life.

i'll make use of warranty because there some several other problems ( overheating with gps apps; only partically working fingerprintsensor; stocking media playback; etc)
[Moto Z Real Life Review] kirkx10:
I got much worse screen time with Oreo update. Did a full reset but still seeing the same numbers. Using AccuBattery and it shows 1% battery for about 1-2 minutes of screen time.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] lesbianu:
Sheridan, RETEU, updated to Oreo (OPL27.76-51) by side loading the OTA zip I picked from the XDA forum.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] CostasV23:
Still on December security update . Pretty nifty
[Moto Z Real Life Review] jimakos29:
Wtf, network standby took out 24% battery in 6hrs 51 mins and screen on time took out 18% in 4hrs 2mins? Something is seriously wrong with network standby on your phone OR on Oreo...
[Moto Z Real Life Review] lesbianu:
You are right, I did not noticed that. I'm using 3G only, without any WiFi connection and today it's worse!

The phone it's new, bought it 2 weeks ago (was offered with the 2200mAH mod and the JBL speakers). It came with 6.0.1 and I went trough all the OTAs till Oreo without any reset. It seems that wiping dalvik cache from recovery it's not helping. I will prepare myself for a full reset... :eek:
[Moto Z Real Life Review] KevinNauris:
I'm getting sot of 1hr40mins.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] jeromejeremytay:
I got SOT 1hr++ only as well. Couldn't take it anymore so had to sell it. I heard people saying that this is due to bad software, which affected the battery.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] tsoump:
I get 3h SOT with the new buld (OPL27.76-71-2-3).
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Ahmed Xperia p:
After 1 and half year installed new battery (old one got swollen )

SOT is around 5.5 hrs with black swift substratum theme (works well on amoled)
[Moto Z Real Life Review] tsoump:
Wow! Could you upload some photos next time? :)
[Moto Z Real Life Review] meetlicious:
I try so many roms and tips for get a better battery life but this phone with 14 day of life dont get me a full day charge , shes a great phone but i will swipe for another phone...
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] wilder_mason:
Pretty good
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Denli:
Lost 3% on standby during 8 hours through the night.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] wilder_mason:
Now that I'm on nougat, I'm losing about 8% over a 7 hour period :(
[Moto Z Real Life Review] zonkkk:
Not all cores stay in deep sleep when the screen is off.

I am seeing about 50% at 652MHz and 50% Deep Sleep when the screen off. I am not sure if this is expected.

I am also losing about 1% / hour in standby with the latest Nougat Update.

I just got it so I can't compare before & after.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Darth:
1 percent per hour can be completely normal depending on someone's setup, apps install, signal strength, etc.

Most phones I've ever owned are about that or just under. Only my Nexus 7 2012 was way lower. About 0.4% per hour.

1 percent per hour is definitely not anything to be too concerned with honestly.

I'd start with CPU spy or a similar app, to see if your phone is actually in deep sleep when not used. If not, then you could have an issue.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Vcek:
i am extremely satisfied with stock(everything stock unrooted,locked bl) standby drain. I don't use Approach, Attentive Display and Notification Display in Moto app.

Wifi ON : 3% over 7 hours sleep

Wifi OFF : 1% over 6 hours sleep

Data(3G) ON : 7% over 5 hours sleep
[Moto Z Real Life Review] firefly2k3:
Since N7 update, getting very bad idle drain.

Losing 28% during 7 Hrs overnight (>4%/Hr) and the BBS logs don't show any major issues.

Posting my logs here hoping a fresh pair of eyes can locate any anomalies I missed.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Vcek:
You might have bad reception in the place you have your phone. Check settings>battery> click on graph>cellular network signal. If the bar is red/ orange or has many small red lines you might be located between two towers.

Try switching to 3G or 2G overnight and if there is a dramatic difference it will confirm its signal-related battery drain.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] firefly2k3:
Just an update; I used a Tasker profile to disable WiFi and Bluetooth when Display is off between 11 PM to 6 AM (my approx. sleep window). This has brought down the Idle consumption during night to 0.8%/Hr suggesting at-least one of them to be the reason for abnormal drain. I think the WiFi or Bluetooth modules in the Nougat update may not be fully optimised. I intend to test with only one of them turned OFF alternatively over next two nights and locate the real culprit.

Of course this does not help me during the day when both WiFi and Bluetooth have to be kept ON as I can't be bothered to turn them On/Off frequently whenever I start/stop listening to music or connect/disconnect to work WiFi. I'll explore if I can write Tasker profiles to switch them On/Off based on location, proximity to work WiFi AP and music steaming status.

Also, as suggested by [MENTION=4234157]Vcek[/MENTION] above, I can see some orange bars in the battery graph overnight indicating signal issues at my home location which may also be adding to the increased drain.

Overall I am sufficiently comfortable now knowing what is causing the increased drain and having at least some level of control over it.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] Tamscerty:
My phone still open when i asleep .
[Moto Z Real Life Review] GrahamHill:
Hmm..

I've been thinking about this as well in the first week of owning the phone. I leave out at 530am and get back around 6pm and am sitting around 50% (not bad, don't get me wrong). But the 2 year old phone it replaced would still be at ~40% in the same day.

It's better, don't get me wrong, just not as much as I figured.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] orbitz52:
I'll try also to test its battery life.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] digweed4me:
Best battery life ever
[Moto Z Real Life Review] spacezork:
So I've had the phone for just about 2 weeks now, the battery doesn't seem to take too kindly to heavy use, but does make it through the day no problem. I usually fully charge the phone before leaving for work in the morning, then throughout the day I will listen to audiobooks, take calls, stream from spotify and play games occasionally. So I would say I use it pretty intensively during the work week and it hasn't let me down yet.

This is on stock, running full brightness without and battery saving app running.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] iron maiden:
Hello on 1 hour in 6% imposibol ..??

Regards

Enviado desde mi XT1650 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] noivern010:
As long as it won't explode...I would use it as long as I want.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Moto Z as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Moto Z is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Moto Z is a beautiful phone.

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[Moto Z Real Life Review] Xorcia:
As good looking as any 2016 flagship phone, but the bezels could be put to better use.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] erfanoabdi:
Quality of power key is really s**s

After 2 month of using this phone

Every time I press or holding power key it feels like this is the last time I can press it to get response

Also I think volume keys have same quality :eek:
[Moto Z Real Life Review] vchristod84:
What about the back of the device? What material is it, I had the z play before and it was plasticky, it was scratching so easily like you could scratch it just by watching it

Στάλθηκε από το moto z μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Moto Z Real Life Review] kaliberx:
Phone is made of Aluminium if i'm not wrong. And Aluminium is not as Scratch resistent as Glas on the back. But it is more flexible and doesnt break.

I like the Aluminium more then Glas, and the Buildquality is because of that much better.

Bendtest on YT said : It is much more stable then Glas (including Gorilla) on the back, and the Border does not brake (At the Power/Volume Buttons) like other Phones.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SBZRO:
Hey all. I'm new to the forum and have been looking at all the stickies and wiki on the phone but I'm still looking for some good applications. I just got my 8525. Its a great phone but i was disappointed to find that it doesnt have a full HTML web browser. Its a feature I was spoiled with when I had my Nokia N80.

Is there an application at there that will support the full webpages. I've tried opera mini and opera mobile with no luck. I've also upgraded to WM6 in hopes of it but nothing.

Any help?

And what other applications do you recommend? I tried loading a few but with no success. I'm mainly looking for games, full web browser and a really good multimedia player.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] alikhan321:
piscel is the best its a samsung app
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Dinty:
Picsel Browser has a nice interface, but it does take a little while to load, and does have some problems with certain websites.

Recently Opera Mini 4 was released and it is small, loads fast, and displays pages quite well. Check it out here:

http://www.operamini.com/

Just use it through your MIDlet Manager.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Rudegar:
opera mobile is pretty nice and not java like mini

it's not free though
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shihayadreamer:
I'm getting ready to load thunderhawk from bitstream..will let you know..
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Moto Z. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] wilder_mason:
Great, close to stock. Still lacking in features compared to most other OEMs and updates are very few and far between. Still on a july security patch.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] harut2K:
Probably the dumbest part of the skin is that you can't set the homescreen to the middle. No, the damned thing has to be on the most LEFT panel. What are you? An iPhone? Half the reason I bought an android was to set the homescreen to the center.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] nukeclears:
It uses the Google Now Launcher, which as the name implies keeps Google Now easily accessible with a single swipe from the homescreen. You can always install Nova launcher or another customizable google now-esque launcher and have the home screens setup like you want (which nova does by default)
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Moto Z's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Moto Z's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Moto Z's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
The Moto Z has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] digweed4me:
Put it on vibrant setting better than my s7edge cause sunlight viewing is better than s7edge and nexus 6p
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Moto Z's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you call granny, does she keep saying "Huh?! Wut?!" or does the conversation flow pretty well? Rate this thread to express how you feel about the Moto Z's call quality. A higher rating indicates that calls are clear and crisp, and that regardless of background noise, you can hear the other party clearly (and with ample volume) and they can hear you.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] JackyGreen:
Enough to use,right? At least you can post threads with it:p
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] dan409:
I walk every morning at a state park that is right on the shore of lake erie and this Moto z is the first phone to not drop signal. (Verizon) All of my previous phones would usually show 3 signal bars at home, the moto z has 4. Went from the usual 103 dbm to 99 with the Z. Very happy with the cell reception. Wi-Fi seems pretty much the same. I might be able to get an additional 10 feet further with the Z before dropping a signal. The radios in this thing are excellent. For reference I have had HTC 8, LG G3, LG G4, GS3, GS5, GS7 edge, Note 3 and Note 5, Moto x 2014 and Moto x PE. I usually don't keep a phone for more than 6 months.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] dan409:
Coming from the MXPE (moto x pure edition) there is no comparison. Speakerphone and all audio volumes are extremely low in volume. Need to have the phone on vibrate or I will miss calls and texts as that volume is also 1/4 the volume of the MXPE. I realize that the MXPE is not a fair comparison because of the stereo speakers and thickness of the phone, but the difference is enough that I am considering returning the phone. GPS nav useless, speakerphone useless, watching videos sucks unless you want to hold the phone 2 " from your ears. YMMV Just my experience with the phone and it sucks because otherwise even unrooted the phone operates as a beast.

EDIT update: I must have a defective JBL mod. In the phone settings there is a way to reset the mod, and when I reset it the speaker phone and GPS nav both have tremendous volume. Only problem is sound goes off randomly and I have to keep resetting the JBL mod for it to work properly. Will take it back and report back if that was the problem.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] vuphongkkk:
they keep the speaker low so you will buy the mods ^^. missed call all the time on my z force
[Moto Z Real Life Review] dan409:
LOL I have the JBL mod and the media volumes are fantastic but the ringtones and speaker phone are not very loud at all even with the mod attached. I don't know why they would tone that down so much to make it freakin useless also. That thing attached to the phone also makes it a real brick to carry around in a pocket, you better be wearing a belt !:D

Hoping like heck this thing gets rooted so I can play around with the sound files. Other wise it may be Hasta la vista for this phone.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] se4n:
Is Moto z Sound so low? Just boght One online, it didnt arrive yeat, already thinking in returning it. D=
[Moto Z Real Life Review] OnceAMatrixMan:
Notification volume is terrible! Even on full barely audible. May return it after only one day
[Moto Z Real Life Review] benjamminh:
After a recent update it became much worse. Many people are complaining about it. You would think they would push another update to fix it.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] falsivas:
Hi, this is a known problem.

Not hardware related...is a software bug added in latest update.

Plenty of info at Lenovo forum, and also a temporary fix....

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Quiet-notifications-moto-z/td-p/3420410

Can't believe Lenovo haven't fixed this yet. Very poor show....
[Moto Z Real Life Review] cosmic76:
hi all, i have solved the Speakerphone bug on my Moto Z

i have installed an app form play store...this one>>>>>>>>

Consulta "Disattiva tono crescente"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shumoapp.disableincreasingring

whit this settings

View attachment 3905627
[Moto Z Real Life Review] anshkhanna:
I have an Indian version... It's speaker is also pathetically low!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] q.snake:
Cool! I'll have a try with that~ thx!
[Moto Z Real Life Review] jeromejeremytay:
Coming from a droid maxx XT1080M, this device loudspeaker is awful. Although it has front facing speakers but watching youtube videos result in very low audio loudness. The droid maxx is almost identical to the Nexus 6P in terms of loudness, whereas the Moto Z is just marginally better than the iPhone 6S.
[Moto Z Real Life Review] falsivas:
If you trawl through the 49+ pages of annoyed (soon to be ex-moto owners) in the official Lenovo forum

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Quiet-notifications-moto-z/td-p/3420410/page/49

then there is a dude who contacted one of Moto's senior execs (Brazil) ... and their response was that this was introduced to prevent damaging some poor sods ears that had their lug next to the phone when a notification arrived (coz it's only got one speaker)

As such. this is a design feature that MOTO don't seem to highlight very much....INVISIBLE NOTIFICATIONS.... yes. it's the new craze !!! Strange that they don't showcase this a bit more !!!

So, if you think there will be a fix soon... forget it... it's a 49+ page thread on lenovorola's OWN forum and hee-haw has been done about it.

Rant over.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trauta:
Hello,

I just saw the new ROM and was wondering if anyone knows of any difference between RUU_Kaiser_ATT_WWE_1.60.502.3_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09_Ship and the one I am currently using, RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship?

I notice the radio has been upgraded and not sure what else. Does the ROM contain all the AT&Tware?

Did a search for this ROM and couldn't find any info. Using AT&T Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
It's the same exact rom that Incognitho posted a few days ago. Check his thread for the info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PostDeals:
LINK please?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=341886

:)

and if ya want a cleaned up version-check out Kyphur's Tilt XDA Live v 1.0 ROM-it's based on this build
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PostDeals:
Is this the latest rom and has the Radio issue been fixed?