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[P8lite General] Tecker74:
Hey there.

I have a Question.

I came from Germany and buy my P8 Lite on Amazon.

The Phone itself is absolut Powerfull and i like it.

But it is a Model for the Middle East & Africa.

Build Number isALE -L21C185B180 and has German Language in it´s Setup.

Updating to Marshmallow is not possible via OTA while it is not for the European Market.

Now i found the Middle East Update to ALE-21C185B525.

Is there anybody who can tell me that German Language is avaible in this Update?

Can someone tell me how to Upgrade this and warn me from Problems with the Manual Update?

Thanks a lot.
[P8lite General] maciekbe:
As far as I know, all versions have most languages, especially, let's say, strong languages like German.

But on XDA you can find many threads about how to change locale of device and update to any version you like, stock or custom, with or without root and with or without custom recovery. This is fine device and we have a few options.

Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/p8lite
[P8lite General] AmINoS007:
B180 ? B160 you mean ? It's the last lolipop version I know available for your version, I advice to not update to B525 it's buggy ?* little and battery drain is ?* big mess
[P8lite General] Tecker74:
My Version is ALE-21C185B180.

I look twice :D
[P8lite General] AmINoS007:
Hahah :Dok then It must be a new version then which I don't know, bcz my phone has the same version as yours actually but I moved to Europe version , could you please share the changelog of this version ? Thank you
[P8lite General] Tecker74:
I don´t have a changelog.

It is the Firmware that was on the Phone as it get´s delivert.

I do not update anything.

Can you tell me how to change to European Version or share a link to a tutorial.

Iam still not happy to buy a Phone in Germany and get one from Africa.
[P8lite General] AmINoS007:
Yes, you just need to unlock bootloader first then flash the oeminfo EU zip then flash EU lolipop rom then you can upgrade to marshmallow too if you want

If you need help just tell me :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
I purchased the Axon 7 and I really liked it, but the bootloader on the device is locked and personally feeling that you paid for it, it is your device, you should be able to do with what you want. So I wrote to the company, ZTE, and asked them if there was going to be an unlock. This is there response.

"Dear Valued ZTE Customer

Thanks for contacting ZTE.

We would like to inform you that, we do not provide any bootloaders to the customers.

Since we follow a very strict warranty policy, we maintain that any changes to the user interface of the device done by the customers, would voids warranty on them.

Which we basically refer as rooting, and hence we do not support or recommend that to the customer either.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best Regards!"

The bootloader will not be unlocked and I have returned my phone.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Prozart:
While this isn't great news, I definitely wouldn't consider it confirmation that they're going against what was announced earlier. In my experience you could email them 4 times and get at least 2-3 different answers.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
well so far there seems to be more clues pointing towards them not unlocking it. We really havent heard concrete proof they were ever going to it just besides one rep on their community page hinting but not even confirming they would.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] biglilsteve:
Yeah, there has been specific information from ZTE stating that they plan to unlock the bootloader. These people answering customer service emails clearly aren't up to speed and you probably WILL get different responses from different customer service reps.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
This may be a form letter sent out by a customer service representative, but there is a reason the wording in the letter was chosen. I had previously stated that they probably would not unlock the bootloader because one of their major selling points is their "warranty". For them to honor that claim to either fix or replace devices, they need them to be standardized. That would mean the bootloader would not be unlocked. It would be a lot harder to service varying devices and there is also the problem of users messing up their phones and trying to get them replaced. Easier for them just to keep things locked. If this phone is ever unlocked, I will be buying it again. Right now, it's almost like buying a brick, as I can't do a thing with and there will probably be zero development for this device.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
so someone asked a zte community mod about it and it seems like if it does even come its gonna be a long time. They told this person to get a case, skin, and screen protector because your in it for the long haul lol....so its gonna be months lol

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UPDATE$$$$$::: NEVERMIND GUYS ITS THE OPPOSITE! They said youd need a case and all that stuff cause i will need it because the bootloader will be unlocked!!!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] intruda119:
You contacted zte customer service and took anything they said to heart. Assuming you know what XDA is.

Asked them about android 7 while your at it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Amd4life:
Welp , looks like I won't be buying this as an alternative to the Note 7.....
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] musicdjm:
You must not have read the whole post, and this Post is useless because had the guy bothered to google Axon 7 bootloader he would have seen the many thread over in the community at ZTEUSA.com , ZTE has listened and continues to listen to everything there community voices, this phone WILL be unlocked
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jbrookley:
You put a lot of faith in the words of a large corporation with a history of having phones completely locked down. Personally, I think it's a valid concern that a company with zero history of encouraging development might either not unlock the bootloader at all, unlock the bootloader but void the warranty (arguably, one of the big draws of the phone, their 2 year warranty), or wait so long to unlock it that a new generation of phones/competition has come out at that point.

I think if they're really listening to the community and they truly do plan on unlocking the bootloader, they should commit to a date or, at least, a milestone (ie they want to get x working completely before they release it). Words are cheap.

I know it was just released so I understand it might take them a while to do so but they have about a month or so to show me some indication they plan on following through (or provide a timeline) and then I'm just going to buy the OP3. After seeing how they handled their release date, I don't have much faith in the company handling things correctly. Maybe that's just me though.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
i'm in the same boat as you. I have my axon 7 and Im waiting for a bootloader unlock or I'm returning. Im giving them 7 more days if nothing else then I'm returning.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] XblackdemonX:
Serious ****post.

Please read this instead of being a twit
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
If you only give it a week, you shouldn't wait... It's very unlikely it will be unlocked before we hit september. They have far more important issue to fix atm than the bootloader.

But i do believe that it'll be unlocked no matter what, the unofficial hints on the official forum by a zte representative couldn't be clearer.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] DrakenFX:
75 Replies Latest reply on Aug 2, 2016 12:28 PM by jimlloyd40

This quote is from the the Z-Community so yeah waiting for the unlocking procedure.

P.S. not owning one at this moment but on my way for store Pick-up (Best Buy ) lucky me they have a brand new one in stock
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
Your probly correct. I'm not getting to close to the 30 day trial end though. I might give it till aug 14 but after that its going back. Its different when its a formal announcement but when its this silly guessing game of stupid wording where they cant tell us just give us hints, then I can't trust them. They cant even deliver a modest amount of units of the phone. Just look at the reddits or xda forums. Its the same 40 users that have the phone. Its def not in a lot of peoples hands. So how could I possibly trust them saying it will be unlocked when truth be told says its probly not or wont be for a while.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
Is letting others know of the letter I received from ZTE being a twit? Sorry you do not like my opinion and hopefully they will change their policy, although history kind of says they won't. But if they do, the phone will still be available, but unless people do not take a stand, their is no reason for ZTE to change the way they do business.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
I beleive what you said. I dont think your a twit. I to am very hesitant to trust zte, because? why should we? The phone launch has been nothing but smooth. They cant fill hardly many pre-orders but to have a ton delayed over a month later? What? And then people want me to trust ZTE? Please lol. I have my axon 7 so I'm hoping the bootloader unlock is soon but In my mind this phone is as good as returned already. Plus my volume rocker is very very loose and needs to go back anyway so I havent decided on a return or advanced exchange.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] musicdjm:
Yes I do have faith in this certain company and that because unlike EVERY other company (Samsung, HTC, Google, LG) shortly after when I purchased my Axon Pro they not only provided a gift card to me just to answer some questions for them, they then sent out request to everyone who owned the Axon pro to do a video conference and gave us another gift card so that they could get user feedback on how we like the phone, what we wanted to see in the next model, what we use the most, I mean they spent an hour over video chat studying there consumers. Then before the release of the Axon 7 they opened a community forum to answer questions and work with there consumers to make sure they make the best products they can. Then based on user feedback from the forums after they announced the phone already they added capacitive buttons to the US model because we wanted them, then we requested the bootloader unlocked and they not only state that it is a matter of when and not IF they will unlock but on top of that the VP of product design spent in hour on a group webinar to answer questions for us and give us insight into the phone and the direction of the company going forward. The also have actual employees who participate and talk in the forum unlike alot of companies.

So to answer your statement YES I am giving them the faith because unlike ANY other company they have shown they deserve it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Prozart:
This. The hardware of the phone looks great, the only thing holding me back in the bootloader. It just seems crazy to me to lose out on a whole demographic (XDA people) by making a decision that doesn't save them any money. Especially since most people outside of XDA, at least in America, have never heard of ZTE.

And if it's a warranty issue just void it for unlocked bootloaders. It's not optimal for the end user but I'd rather have the option to void the warranty and do my own thing with the phone than be locked to their software and have a warranty.

Anyway, I'm fine with the OP3 while they get their act together.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
Shoutout to you from the ZTE forums! See theyve earned your business. They have yet to earn a lot of ours. So far some of us want to believe them but its hard when a lot of customers preordered the phone and now they wont get it till 9/9. Wheres the communication on that? Some preordered on b&h 3 weeks ago and still dont have their device. How are they expected to trust ZTE? To most of us ZTE is just a brand, we do not have brand loyalty yet like you do so we cant just trust them. They need to earn our business just like they did you. I'm not asking for a Gift card or special treatment just down home INFO and FACTs. Not dreams or hints. FACTS.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] musicdjm:
[MENTION=1731684]Aknott[/MENTION]s there isnt a company out there that hasnt had issues at one point meeting demand and not having issues when the phone first launches. Apple, Samsung, HTC LG none of them are exempt, thats the nature of making an electronic device
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
but come on...a month later? Also this isnt samsung or LG or apple. Its ZTE.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] max1001:
Unlocking bootloader void warranty on every damn Android phone I can think of. It would be stupid of them not to do this. How many "help I bricked my phone because i didn't flash x and y right." post are on XDA? Millions probably.

Also, ZTE doesn't have any experience in providing a method to unlock bootloader. Their developers need to engineer one and that takes a time. They also need to QA the crap out of it. Would you rather have the developers spend their time fixing bugs or writing code to unlock bootloader?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
The best example that comes to my mind concerning launch failure is One Plus... The availability for the 1+1 with the invite system was juste terrible ! And it wasn't any better a year later with the 1+2 :/.

Actually, 1+ and Oppo have a really cool policy on unlocking the bootloader. It doesn't void their warranty !
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jbrookley:
This is exactly how I feel. I think they have the hardware to justify getting the phone but for those of us that care about root (this is the XDA forum after all. To be honest with you, I'm floored at how many people in this forum don't care about rooting . . . I kinda wonder what the point of being in these forums are if that's not something you're interested in . . . but that's just me)), it's something that's important to a lot of people. If their number one competition is OP, a company they clearly outdid with hardware, matched the price, and outdid them with their warranty, the only remaining thing they are behind on is the bootloader. That was something OP handled on day 1. I can't imagine that ZTE didn't know this. So I have concerns with this as either ZTE doesn't fully understand their competition or people who desire root aren't their target audience. Or, more likely, they want to be able to limit the scope of development of the phone by tracking those that do root their phones and voiding the warranties of those that do (similar to what ASUS did, if I remember correctly). If they do that, it will definitely limit the development for the device though and, in that case, OP will definitely win out over them in that respect (whether that matters or not is person to person, I'm sure).

That said, the note posted earlier definitely tips their hands that it is a priority and they're working on it. If that's true, I'm sure we'll see it in the very near future, we will buy their phone, and all this will be a moot point. If they don't release it soon though, it's kind of their own fault for not anticipating this earlier (releasing source code isn't particularly difficult, though if they're planning on going the ASUS route and creating their own tools that flag the phones and void the warranty, that might explain it as well).

As someone else mentioned, OP not only released the source code day 1, unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phones doesn't void the warranty. I realize most of the big companies don't do this but companies trying to take marketshare from those companies are trying to find ways to do so. In both ZTE and OP's cases, they've released solid hardware and in OP's case, they released their code, allowed for rooting, and maintaining warranty, resulting in an active developing community. It all depends on if they care about an active development community or not. I'm guessing probably not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] pwnerman:
this is why I preordered the grey version from BH. It won't ship until the 17th at the earliest which is another 2 weeks plus and then BH will let you keep it for thirty days no questions asked with free return shipping if you don't want it. If they don't unlock the bootloader by then I'll either try and flip it on swappa or just return it. I cannot be without my root.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Barsky:
Exactly. XTE really should make a fast decision and announce an actual date for when it will be available. This is their first really good phone and they are going to blow it on a locked bootloader.

Based on the information on Newegg's site for the product, mine should be shipping August 15th, unless I cancel first (rders for the grey model before July 29th will begin fulfillment by August 15th.)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] peramikic:
HTC 10 that's carrier unlocked (like this ZTE is) has unlockable BL and has warranty coverage that is not automatically voided if you unlock it. Off course there is a disclaimer attached to it and all, but they will not void you warranty by default. I remember how HTC established itself in the first place with developer friendly devices. In the market segment that ZTE is aiming for, the XDA-type buyers make a large portion of that segment. People who will buy a non-carrier phone from internet and forgo dev support from carrier, like enabling LTE on this device with AT&T for instance will be tricky if your account is not already LTE. And then there is already OP3 and Nexus to compete with.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] max1001:
I posted this on ZTE forum and I will post it here.

More Senior XDA who actually does work with Android Development can chime in also. I am not a rom developer so i don't know the details as much as those guys.

Android M has two ways to implement boot verification. They are call implementation classes call Class A and Class B.

Class A boot verification with full chain of trust up to verified partitions and doesn't support UNLOCKED device sate.

Class B on the other hand does support UNLOCKED device state. See below diagram for reference.

[IMG="Boot flowchart"]https://source.android.com/security/images/verified_boot.png[/IMG]

Go read this for full detail.

Verifying Boot | Android Open Source Project

It's pretty obvious that ZTE went with Class A implementation because that's what's the security best practice recommends. If you ever want to step into business sector, you have to implement Class A.

You can just switch from Class A to B on a whim once you ship a product. Hell, i am not even sure it's doable once all the keys and TEE has been baked into the phone.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
Another phone I have is the Honor 5x. I contacted Huawei straight away and they provided me with the unlock code. This is something that doesn't need to engineered. This is an excuse BY ZTE to buy time. After all, they are not reinventing the wheel. That be like buying a car without wheels and buying the excuse that they need to engineer a solution. Believe me, if they can lock it, they can already unlock it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
The shipped bootloader on the A7 might not contain the necessary commands for an end-user to enter to unlock the bootloader, which is why MiFavor developers have stated that BL unlocking will require an update. (push out a bootloader update via OTA that will allow for unlocking)

The way that Huawei and Motorola does it requires just a device-specific code to unlock the bootloader, while the way that HTC does it requires you to flash a device-specific file. In either case, they would have to develop a system to generate the specific code/file, and considering ZTE has never done unlockable bootloaders before, they would have to do it all from scratch.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
All I am saying is regardless how they roll it out and how the code is implemented (either through manual entry, flashing or OTA) the code has already been engineered. That code was already created when they locked it in the first place. So I think they are merely stalling and hopefully with time, we will go away. Remember, we are a small minority of users. To the vast majority of users, they don't even have an idea of what a bootloader is. Hence, the popularity of phones, such as the iPhone. To ZTE it may simply not be worth it considering an unlocked bootloader won't affect their overall sales to the vast majority of buyers/end users.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Adiyel:
I see several users here have completely skipped over the posts that show from ZTE employees that they're gonna unlock the bootloader. I mostly care about root, personally. An unlocked bootloader is a plus. Give these people time, they're new to this market segment and are trying to do things that they've never done before.

Some of you need to just go get a Nexus device and stop filling the Axon 7 forums with negativity.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
you do know you're on a xda DEVELEOPERS forum website right? For people....who like to root and mod their phones.....:rolleyes:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jbrookley:
Thank you! I'm still blown away people post in here about not caring about root. I kind of don't get why they're here if that's the case...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Adiyel:
So do I. I'm running a custom ROM on my Z3C right now as we speak.

See above. My issue is that none of these complaints are doing anything constructive. They sound like uniformed emotional rants. If you actually pay attention to the ZTE forums, they have said many times before that they plan to unlock it. Go back to the first page of this thread and read one of the first few posts where it's been clarified.

I'm likely getting this phone and root/custom ROMs is a definite boon, but more and more OEMs are starting to make it harder and harder so I'm not going to let u/l bootloader be the end all as to whether or not I buy a phone. Besides, I'm looking at the Nexus phones as well, provided they have SD card or at least 64gb on-board.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aknotts415:
The reason it is brought up so much is because there is nothing official. They could easily change their mind. Its only been mentioned a few times and nothing more than hints. So if you want to trust them be my guest. Ive been burn before by promises. A lot of people were burned with the launch of this phone and don't even have the phone. So trust them if you must, a company thats never unlocked one single bootloader. I commend you for having such faith in them. I however do not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Adiyel:
I don't have "faith" in anything but God. I'm not too concerned because there are always other options. Also, it's not like someone won't/can't figure out how to do this sort of thing unofficially.

Again, root is a must for me - custom ROMs are just extra. Just like hardware features, the ability to install custom ROMs is just another pro for a potential smartphone purchase.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] markwebb:
That's not an actual confirmation. PR and Marketing to appease the masses. I've seen that kind of response before with other manufacturers.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jim262:
No they are not new to this market. ZTE is one of the top five largest smartphone manufacturers in its home market, and worldwide, in the top ten. They didn't just start yesterday. ZTE was founded in 1985 - 31 years ago. They know what, they are doing.