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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
That OEM unlock does not unlock the bootloader and therefore you cannot flash any kernel you make! If it was that easy it would have been done long ago!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
Delete
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Uh, Delete?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] razieltov:
Yes there is such a thing as a hard brick. The only way to fix a hard brick is a JTAG, that is what they were invented for. But its pretty hard to get an actual hard brick. I've only seen one out of the thousands of phones I've rooted. But just look at the LG G2. Tons of hard bricked G2s. Try and flash the wrong bootloader on your Note 5 and see what happens.

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This is incorrect. If you flash a wrong bootloader then you can absolutely hard brick your phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
If it can be fixed with JTAG then I stand corrected that there's NO permanent brick if you can fix it! I've flashed an incorrect boot.img a second ago on an old HTC and it just refused to boot past the HTC screen! Upon putting the correct one back it booted just fine. Now I'm not saying there's no such thing as a "brick" but if it can be fixed which in most cases it can be, then it's not a permanent brick!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] razieltov:
I'm just saying, that there is such a thing as actually bricking a phone. Yes you are right 99.999999% of the time people say they bricked their phones, they haven't actually bricked it. It can be fixed. It is pretty tough to actually brick most phones. Some phones are easier than others. I know with the original Galaxy s phones that if you put the wrong bootloader on the phone then you can't put the phone back to download mode to flash the correct bootloader. The LG G2 was notorious for getting bricked.

And brick means hard bricked. Most people use the word brick for a soft-brick, but that usage is incorrect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] NeoandGeo:
If this work continues in any way, count me in to help find a root method for this device for possible future testing. Moving from a Note 4 to a Note 5 due to not really needing all root features anymore (no unlimited data was the biggest push, no need to disable tethering provisioning) and because I am ready to move away from 3GB of RAM. and Star Wars Heroes/Pokemon Go, etc. thermal throttling sluggishness.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
Thanks for your helpful contribution. I'm sure everyone is glad you posted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] NeoandGeo:
Equipped with a limited mindset such as the lol-guy has he probably thinks the comment will spur the developer into taking it as a playful insult and will fuel them to strive to working harder and finding a root method, but sadly it probably brings the dev one step closer to giving up. Face_Palm at some of the rude comments.

[MENTION=4999212]PaulPizz[/MENTION] - I used your Rom almost exclusively on my Note 4, love your work, if you have anything to contribute to this project I would be glad to test for you. Have been looking for a reason to acquire a JTag machine. :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
Thanks! I'm thinking about picking up a note 5. I have some ideas in mind I'd like to try with the device. People on here say it's impossible to achieve root, but it does seem to me there is a lack of devs really putting time in on this device. We all thought he n4 was a lost cause but myself and a few other devs that didnt even own the device brought it back to life. I'll definitely let you know if I decide to contribute to this device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
That would be great man. I hope you decide to pick one up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rolfsted:
If root is acheived, count me as being very grateful, because I have no idea what is involved.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] NeoandGeo:
Samsung likes making Root close to a freaking national holiday sometimes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] messi2050:
yeah i agree this device lack of devs .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
I have a few questions on what you attempted...

Which Kernels did you try to flash? Did you patch the sepolicy in any of them? How did you go about trying to flash? With Odin?

Thanks..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] messi2050:
i compiled permissive kernel - disabled dm-verify , yes tried to flash using odin in all attempts , although tried at&t eng kernel , all tests were did on 5.1 AOJ3 build
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] messi2050:
we tried kingoroot...etc none have worked for us
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] :
For what's it's worth if you modify any of the files it breaks the signature and then it will not flash. The S7 and S7 Edge have a signed engineering kernel that is pre rooted and is the only reason that device has root. So unless you have a way of signing files or get a hold of signed files you are pretty much dead in the water. Unless of course you find a work around for DM Verify or unlock the bootloader witch is very unlikely. I'm not saying it's impossible but very unlikely. I would love to see this beat but I won't hold my breath. Good luck anyways.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
Hi post owner. I have a rooted Verizon Note 5 in hand and it's retail phone not a development version. Somebody did it for our company. I checked the phone. He doesn't change kernel or bootloader at all, but it has root permission for real. Because we signed a confidentiality agreement. I can't share it, but I can give you some details when I root the phone. Do you think it will inspire you?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
Well, if you happened to turn your head while someone pulled the files, that wouldn't be you sharing them I wouldn't think. [emoji12]

[MENTION=4999212]PaulPizz[/MENTION] Do you think it could help?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
Well, the suck part is. It needs a usb credential key to run to program.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
You should message some of the people that are working on root. They may be able to help you out and help us out as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
With some details I may be able to
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
That's what I like to hear! Maybe it will work out. Although if he used an undisclosed exploit it may not be helpful. Hoping that is not the case though. Did he PM you?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
No he's hasn't contacted me. He doesn't make it sound very promising. But if there is any legitimacy to this. I'll go buy an n5 right away.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I'm interested in knowing some information about the phone first. Model, Version, Baseband and Build Number.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
Can you provide some information regarding the build number and such?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
Sorry guys. This week I work so hard and slept at 8 PM last night. I will post all information soon. Give me some time to prepare.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
Can anybody tell me site which can link photo to here? Using google drive is terrible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
You should be able to upload it straight to here. Are you using the app?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
No, I am using a computer. Ok I saw the attachment and I found a site called photobucket as well. I am posting the information now.

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Sorry to keep you guys waiting. Before I give these information I need to declare I am not sharing this root program. I can't do it because my company signed a confidential agreement with the technician. Sorry about that.

The following step is how I root Verizon Note5 and S6 by his program.

1. First of all I need to flash a certain version os to the phone.

S6 - G920VVRU4BOK7_G920VVZW4BOK7_G920VVRU4BOK7_HOME

N5 - N920VVRU2AOJ2_N920VVZW2AOJ2_N920VVRU2AOJ2_HOME

Using the Odin 3.10.6 provided by him. I am able to "upgrade" (Of course) or "downgrade" any verizon S6 or Note 5 with any version regardless the kernel or base band to these 2 versions. After I checked this Odin. It has a SS_DL.dll which is different with the other Odins. I think it might able to downgrade your verizon S6 or Note 5 to 5.0.2 which was able to root by the program offered by someone else, but I didn't test this. I could try it later.

2. In dial pad. Input ##366633#, it will show a view then choose Enable DM mode. Then I need to run the root program provided by him in download mode. It's an integrated Odin, but I don't know what did it integrated. After flash something in 4 seconds it will reboot. After that, the phone is rooted, but it won't have any su command in /system/xbin. That's why I can't run any root app. The phone status will keep in official. The custom sign in picture because I run a script to clear Verizon app.

That's it. I hope these can help you guys out to find out how to root a Verizon phone.

Before root

After root

Tools
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
Thanks for posting! Unfortunately, it appears that there may be a stalemate of sorts. The root privileges really can't be ironed out unless a developer gets his hands on the program. As you stated, you can't release the program. So close but so far away for everybody. Lol.

I'm curious, how long have you had this program?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Well he is honest though and really does have a rooted Verizon Note 5 so he's not lying I can vouch for him.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] perfectpitch:
Can his rooted kernel be flashed with out the program?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
Just a couple days. Since I found nothing on xda. We started to publish a message to programmer market, but only one guy says that he can make it and he really does.

He was not willing to make this for us. We go back and forth like 2 weeks. Finally someone big do us a favor to convince him help us. So I don't want to break the rule and break our reputations.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] leoisengard:
So its all a mistery... We continue having the vzw note 5 without root.

Enviado desde mi SM-N920V mediante Tapatalk
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] perfectpitch:
Can we reverse engineer the program (ie. Read the coding) to find out how root was obtained. And then write our own program to user the same exploit?

Also would like to add I find this encouraging. It can and had been done. So our wonderful debs here can do it to. Good luck guys
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jal3223:
The only way would be if he releases it and he has already stated that he couldn't. We are basically in the same shape as we were before he came forward.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] perfectpitch:
To bad we couldnt get the gentlemans name and offer a bounty to him for it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] joutcast:
It is my understanding that the Verizon Varient is compatible on ATT. Does this not mean that the functioning ATT root should work on the VZW model with slight modification or is the csc knox coded security different?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Does not work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] rommy7:
When I google SM-N920V Root - I find a program called SRSRoot ? Has anyone heard of this one ?

I did find the Odin 3.10.6 on page8 with SS_DL.dll (exported functions) for downgrading to 5.1.1 at a site called odindownload but I am not sure if this is a LEGIT site.....?

A good question is has anyone tried a Downgrade to 5.1.1 from 6.0.1 ?

The question is once at 5.1.1 whats the secret root file that is is used in "DM Mode" has anyone figured that out ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Lol @ Samsung has recalled all of it's Galaxy Note 7s already because of battery explosions.. I knew they should have stopped cutting corners cause this is gonna cost them dearly!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] perfectpitch:
Makes me glad that i didnt upgtade
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Zarg95ET:
I seen that the VZW Samsung galaxy note 7 has root. How does a phone so similar have root but the note 5 cannot obtain root what is making the note 5 unrootable? is the note 7 boot-loader unlocked?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] HypostaticOnion:
Still different devices. The thing is, all the us versions are the exact same hardware so any exploits will likely be based on other signed firmwares and such. Verizon had too much say in the note 5 being so locked down.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] nrage23:
Tyler is correct. Also the phones are not even remotely similar. The Note 5 uses Samsung`s Exynos like last year's S6 where the Note 7 has the Snapdragon 820. Also the Note 7 has root due some leaked engineering firmware like the S7. Exploits that get full root are getting harder to come by these days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xxjomamaxx:
these claims of root are BS!, look at the screen shots. under kernel you see an -eng tag. this means the kernel is an engineering version, these are the leaked kernels that have allowed many s6 note5 and s7 roots but there has been no leaked verizon note 5 engineering kernel. this also debunks his "program root " method because you wouldn't be trying to root a phone with an engineering kernel already on it because an engineering kernel already enabled root.

my guess it these are just photo shopped pics.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] messi2050:
you still need to install super su to manage root access for apps after flashing eng kernel

https://thephonesolution.com/collec...eng-boot-kernel-root-file?variant=28460050246
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xxjomamaxx:
okay, first thing buddy, your link is to a eng kernel for the n920a not the verizon version, 2nd, if your paying 50 bucks for a file you can get for free off the website we are on right now then you should buy it then go ahead and flash it and see how far it gets ya, I never said u didn't need a program to control root, go back and read the thread! the guy claimed he had a program that would root the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PaulPizz:
If it's a real engineering kernel it should work for the vzw. It's a matter of whether you can get it to flash to the phone. What I do know is for instance to root the note 7 a sprint firmware is used and it does flash through Odin. Not sure if the same will apply to the note 5. But I'd say it's worth a shot. I don't have a note 5 or I'd try it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] NeoandGeo:
Did anyone else read this in Apu Nahasapeemapetilon's voice? As soon as I got to buddy, I couldn't help but read the rest as him. :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
You shouldn't come on here accusing devs or anyone for that matter of being a liar! I can vouch for [MENTION=4929843]messi2050[/MENTION] because I've seen what he has and it's in fact a rooted Verizon Note 5.. People like you with your accusations with no proof are why us devs aren't so interested in helping no more! [MENTION=4929843]messi2050[/MENTION] isn't lying and is a nice guy! And yes I have enough credibility on here to be believed!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] HypostaticOnion:
I'm gonna grab some pics later but I'm getting a "custom" splash on bootup now and I'm wondering if something somehow unlocked my bootloader or if its a bug.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xxjomamaxx:
I'm not accusing, I'm pointing out that it's a fact. first, You cannot install the AT&T engineering kernel on a Verizon phone. The only way you could possibly do that would be to unlock the bootloader or to edit the kernel and make changes to make it look like it's a Verizon kernel but doing so would break the package signature and because we have a locked bootloader it will never Flash if the signature is invalid. So this guy somehow is the only one on the planet that got a copy of a leaked Verizon engineering kernel. (and is choosing not to share it) or his claims are total bullsh*t But all of this stuff aside my original Point still holds true. you would not be trying to exploit root privileges (with an exploit program) on a phone that has an engineering kernel installed because the engineering kernel has already given you root privileges.

it would be like trying to jump start a car that's already running, and then claiming your jump start is what got the car running.

I'm not trying to be a **** , I'm just pointing out a couple of huge problems with this claim and also a little pissed off that someone would publicly make that claim and then deny everyone access to the procedure and tools used. ( hey guys check it out I got a magic potion here that makes you s*** diamonds but I'm going to keep it all to myself.)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] messi2050:
My link was just to show that leaked eng kernels is available for some devices with locked bootloader , it's how n920a/ note 7 got root , i didn't see a leaked one for n920v during my search on any site , want to say it was just an example :p not a promotion for that site but yes i believe that maybe there are some people who have an eng kernel for n920v and don't want to show it now .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xxjomamaxx:
well my whole point is...... look at those screenshots a few pages back where he claims to have used a "program" to root the n920v. in the screenshots you can see its says its a sm-n920v. then under kernel it has a "-eng" tag at the end, -eng = engineering kernel. so again, why would anyone be trying to use any means to exploit and gain root access on a device that already has authorized user root access ? it makes no sense even looking at logcat of an exploit attempt would be pointless a's even if the export worked you wouldn't be able to decipher the exports root access from root access made through the engineering kernel.

it's like trying to spot your blue marble in a pile of 1000 identical blue marbles.

so either the pics are photoshopped and it's all bs or someone is hoarding a n920v -eng kernel.

knowing the whole thing about someone trying to root a phone that's basically already rooted and claiming they were able to root it makes me lean in the BS direction but I would gladly eat crow if someone would be kind enough to upload a n920v -eng kernel. screenshots can be faked and why would you post screenshots and not share the exploit anyway?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
The "I'm going to keep it to myself" is what happens when someone spends a lot of their time and money doing something only to be told "I don't believe you, you're full of crap, etc etc.." There's tons of ways to gain root access and just because he had an engineering kernel doesn't mean whoever gave it to him didn't set it up to work a specific way. For instance they could have made it so that he only has access to the root rights while using adb from a PC and that's it. It just depends on what the settings are. If someone came along and said this to me, "So this guy somehow is the only one on the planet that got a copy of a leaked Verizon engineering kernel. (and is choosing not to share it) or his claims are total bullsh*t* guess what? I wouldn't want to share it either. That's just not how to go about it at least not to me. I give everyone the benefit of doubt until they do something that would make me think they aren't trustworthy. I especially respect devs that are a lot smarter than me and always buy their apps or donate whatever I can otherwise we really wouldn't have nothing without them!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xxjomamaxx:
see. the before pic doesn't have a -eng tag.

the after does..... so basically if it's real it's a verizon engineering kernel. no root program. this file needs to be made available

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nice argument but this person didn't do ****!

it's clearly just an engineering kernel but to not distribute it is messed up.

and why r u so vigorously defending someone else's position in that manner? this guy didn't even know it was a kernel, he calls it a root program, I'd say the same thing if you posted and claimed to have root and then not share it. in that situation you would be a total d*ck head.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
It doesn't need to be made available this is exactly what I'm talking about, this "it needs to be made available" entitlement attitude... You are not entitled to nothing, get that through your head!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] HypostaticOnion:
This guy is just some scrub nobody. Has 34 posts and has already killed his rep here lol. Around here we always give someone the benefit of the doubt. This is the reason many devs moved to other sites and refused to release a ROM here. Newt comes to mind (back in the DInc2 days). I bought this phone knowing I'll likely never be able to root it and I'm fine with that. If root comes, AWESOME! I miss root. If it doesn't, I'm still using this phone until next upgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pkl06:
You are so funny man. Why would I lie about this? Did I claim for any bounty? What my purpose was I knew nobody can successfully root a Note5, but I got a root program from a pro then I tried to provide some clues or hints for other programmers. I am a rookie. I know nothing about how the pro root this machine. All I know is he could open a root access for us through the adb tunnel and that's what we need. If we want, he absolutely can make it root in user's hand. I don't want hold it up. I really want to share it to everybody who are working so hard on this to help them solve those problem, but contract is contract, agreement is agreement. We need to follow the rule of this society. If you don't know what it is, I suggest your go back to school and learn it (Maybe you'd never attended). He let us sign this agreement I think he must be known there are a lot of people like you in this world so he didn't want his efforts will use in these people's hand.

BTW, for the -eng question. He left us a note. If we can finish the root and later on process in 2 mins. The custom unlock icon won't be showed up and there won't be a -eng on the kernel. Please open your eyes to see more things. This world is open wide not as tiny as what you can see.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Lol, he definitely did kill his rep here! I tend to remember people that act like that. I also bought the phone knowing that there would be no root and it hasn't bothered me simply because I have another phone with root so it's not like I'm missing out on anything! I just really dislike people who think that they're entitled to have something that someone else has or made. Especially when that person spent their time and money doing it and had plans on sharing it at some point anyway! That type of treatment towards the devs is exactly why they're all leaving and taking their work with them never to be put on xda and that sucks! I wish some of these noobs would realize that treating others like that hurts all of us and not just them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] stetson0711:
i tried to flash my verizon note 5 n920v and dont get passed the verizon start up screen..... please help!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Ryano89:
Tried to flash what?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrBaltazar:
So... we need the eng kernel asap. Please provide to us.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] flametai1:
Hey Messi, is this group still happening and if it isis, would it be possible that I joined it? Would love to help test the methods you may come up with. flametai1@gmail.com
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
It's been closed long ago!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] flametai1:
That is very unfortunate :( and no root for the verizon note 5 I take it as of yet? Been lurking the threads constantly hoping there is a method that will show eventually.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Tomtomyoshi:
Yeah I agree. Im assuming the issue is still the locked bootloader? Sucks, I would kill for root on this phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] tw1n5nak35:
Thank you for your efforts, time and consideration. Howe is the testing coming along?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
They gave up long ago.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] tw1n5nak35:
Dang too bad. What would have happen if we got root right? Recovery and roms. You still on lollipop 5.5.1?