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[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Nope I meant to call you "bra" and spell check had my back. Bruh is for my bruhs. "Bra" is for someone exactly like you because since you must wear them since you're a little biatch... Trolling flaming gnome. Go get in line for Harry Potter and have a nice day BRA
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ashburton:
Thanks but no thanks... You actually didn't influence my thoughts. More like 1 step forward, 1 step backward, your pros fit both phones matched your cons
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Charkol:
Thanks for your comparison! Not sure why people are so arrogant or condescending. Appreciate your effort writing this up so some of us can make a better decision.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
That's the whole point. Too many so called "real" reviews online do not give an honest opinion and are influenced by the author getting free stuff, free phone, etc. My point is to not make you say "hey I need to go get one of these phones now" but rather "I did know that and didn't know this... now I do." Thanks for reading!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Yep!! You got the point exactly. I'm not here to "influence" anyone into making a decision. I'm not a ZTE or OP3 salesperson. Just laying out real world facts as I see them (Thus the title of the post). Too many blog reviews make phones out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread or the bottom layer of poop in an unattended bird cage (like the stuff stuck to newspaper on the bottom). The fact of the matter is that these people tend to be influenced in other ways (monetarily, free stuff, etc.) to make or break a review. Just because I posted in the AXON 7 forum, does not mean that the AXON 7 wins every category automatically. The AXON 7 is a good phone but not without some flaws, same with the OP3. It's knowing what flaws you can live with and which ones you can't that should influence your decision rather than Some Guys Opinion hahahahahaha :highfive:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
Post some stats of battery life comparison. I highly doubt the A7 gets better battery than the OP3.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkjedi:
I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
You are an American?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
I am too but he stopped commenting so there's that. Sorry I know it was very lame
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Didn't say it did actually.... I said it performed similarly. I also said that the OP3 actually charges faster. Why did I pick the AXON 7 then.... well, that's the question isn't?

Oh wait... it's right there in the Battery paragraph if you only took time to read thoroughly... thanks!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cypher_01:
I guess, that the snappiness of the OnePlus 3 isn't only because of more Ram, but also because of the much slimmer Oxygen OS.

I didn't receive my OnePlus 3 so far, but even when it's faster, I think I can't live without those awesome speakers of the ZTE Axon 7.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
Your review was kind of big b.s that's why no time to waste on reading all of it. Do a better job next time. Thanks!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Yep. I wish I could get past the sound thing. Unfortunately it consumes about an hour of my day everyday if not longer. You'll enjoy the OP3. Great phone!!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
Why is it a bs review? Explain
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
You not reading then commenting is the only b.s. smelling here. Plus, if you didn't read then how would you know. Hmmmm the plot thickens and so does the b.s. Have a good one!? thanks for the comments!?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rzracer2:
Am I not reading this on XDA and not even mention that the Axon's bootloader is not unlockable at this time. Maybe someday maybe never. This is why I am typing this on an OP3 and not an A7.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
His review wasn't bs. Your just mad because the phone your wanting is being criticized. I have the Axon 7 right now. Everything's great except what the OP said. Camera is very blah and the software isn't he best. It's speedy but there's features that don't make sense. Maybe next time try to have an open mind and look at the pros and cons of each device...

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Hey aren't you from the ZTE community? Yu give up the Axon 7? I got mine Friday. I like it but the volume rocker is real loose and when I press up it doesn't click or do anything sometimes. Dpi is also way to high. How you like your oneplus3? I'm returning my Axon since the camera is very poor to me and the volume rocker and how messed up and unorganized this launch is. I'll hold my breath on the bootloader unlock or timely updates when they can't even stick to a release date or have enough supply that they can't get the phone I'm enough peoples hands that a month and a half on backorder lol

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Good comparison man. I agree with your Axon points. Got mine Friday. I'm returning due to loose volume rocker that doesn't always raise the volume when I press it and the poor camera. Thinking of getting the one plus 3.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
Lol what? My phone is being criticized? What phone is mine according to you mr. nostradamus??
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Maybe not yours lol jist seems like on the zte forums everyones a crusader for zte and you cant criticize the axon 7 at all lol sorry if i put you in that group. But this phones def not perfect. I was like everyone here but some things arent as good as i was expecting myself. I thinm the op review was pretty fair myself. If your looking for a new phone and you have the 6p i would recommend you stay with it lol just my recommendation. :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
I was actually saying the opposite. I got the impression that he said the A7 gets better battery life than the OP3 but that is not true actually. That's why I asked him to post screenshots of battery life comparisons. I am using this 6P until tomorrow when my second OP3 gets here. I like that phone better than the 6P because of the battery life and built quality lol. 6P is too big and the sd810 is not very battery efficient.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] charlie_82:
Thanks for the comparison :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
I will try to have something more definitive on battery life soon. My use case is weird as I always have opportunity for a charge within a 8-10 hour time frame. Plus I'm not using my personal phone at work so pretty much it stays idle all day. I have to try next weekend to get a good full charge to zero look at it. Plus I'm hoping zte might push a out of the box correct stupid stuff OTA this week which may include some battery fixes and camera stuff. OP3 already has OTA updated 3 times to correct a bunch of its issues so it is hard to just do a comparison based off a "corrected" OP3 and a fresh to market AXON 7. Many would agree that even the best phones take a couple OTAs to get right
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rzracer2:
Yes I've given up for now on the Axon as I'm enjoying the OP3 with root. Like the author of this review, I've had most of the mainstream flagships, both S7/S6 models, a 6p, and a bunch of midrangers and I will say I like the OP3 the best. The 6P is close but I like the size of the OP3 better. The A7 intrigued me for the audio capabilities but for me root is more important. Maybe Axon will get everything worked out with the 6GB version if and when they release it in the US. I think ZTE made a good effort it's just not enough to lure me away from a device I enjoy right now.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
The axon 7's source code was release this morning. Not sure what that means
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
I would agree with this statement... quite frankly, if OP3 added a system-wide equalizer in a future update I would get one again in a heartbeat. I just feel you can't call yourself a "Flagship Killer" and be missing the function... it was great when the OP1 had this before the switch to OxygenOS. I know its a simple root then mod to do it for the OP3... but then no OTAs, no Android Pay, etc. etc. then everytime there's a major updated, re-flash, re-root, nandroid... blah blah blah blah... getting too old and too grumpy to deal with that anymore for a phone a might keep for 3 to 4 months if I'm lucky.... will just have to see what the future holds :good:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MeggaMortY:
Thanks for the review, you got some nice points there. And don't listen to the trolls, besides no one paid you to give them anything, so they're entitled to nothing. Maybe that's why the anger. :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Charkol:
I have a OnePlus 3 and I have pre-ordered a grey Axon 7. I was wondering if you could compare the wifi strength on both phones. I love the OnePlus 3 overall, however the wifi strength is noticeably weaker than other phones I have had. I am unable to play Youtube videos/browse the net on my OnePlus 3 from my bedroom which is just separated by a wall from where the router is placed. Anyway, which phone has the better wifi performance in your experience? Thanks!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gruiz3:
Loved the review, i just had a quick question about what carrier you used and how they compared for signal strength and as for the post above wifi signal strength would be a nice info bit.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
AXON 7's wifi seems to be pretty good. My AC router is upstairs separate by a wall and floor. It performs similarly to any other phone I have recently had. I had the OnePlus 3, it seemed ok to me... maybe you had a bad apple....

Tmobile. Its comparable to other phones I have had. To take note, the AXON 7 does not support WIFI Calling... so there's that currently. The best most recent phone I had for reception was the LeEco Le Max 2... even better than HTC 10, Nexus 6P, etc.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gruiz3:
Thank you, i appreciate the response.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chuck Jones:
Another wasted review of the Axon 7

Why cover it up with your so-called title that this is just a review of the Axon 7.

Clearly it's another bash the ZTE, buy the crappy Oneplus 3.

Really, the Axon 7 crushes the crappy OP3, in all categories.

The extra 2gb of ram, even after the update, still at most uses only 3gb.

There were so many countless bugs and issues with the first release of the OP3, it was/is a complete joke.

I still don't understand the loyalty of the fanboys of Oneplus.

Oneplus has never shown loyalty to it's customers, ever.

The whole company is a sham, really it's just an off-shoot of OPPO.

.

You completely forgot about the Passport 2.0 warranty, or the free headset, case, screen protector.

Why is that?

The customer service and warranty support from Oneplus is atrocious!

No one gives a real honest non-biased review of the Axon 7.

I guess that even though they have one to review, they just can't give it real credit for a REAL Flagship Killer.

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Well like all phones, getting WiFi calling does take some time, my Axon Pro has Wifi calling, works great.

If you look at this article, scroll down to 'Unlocked devices':

http://goo.gl/Ad9fSr

You'll see the Axon Pro is certified.

And down further, The Axon 7 status.

Having VoLTE, Band 12 support, Wifi calling on my Axon Pro is great.

I'm sure the Axon 7 will be certified soon.

That's more than you can say about the crappy OP3.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] canezila:
Really enjoyed your review. Don't understand why some people are rude to you and your review. If they disagree then move on.... No need to be negative if you don't agree with what you said. Leave the childish behavior for school.

I am waiting to see if Verizon Wireless users have success with the phone in the US. I would replace my N6 with this since it can be rooted and, audio is top priority in my life.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtermmin:
http://xdaforums.com/axon-7/help/verizon-compatibility-t3420991

It works on Verizon, but there's some issues that need to be ironed out.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Umm can you read bro?

Obviously you didn't see or even cared to see that the phones are comparable and that I currently use the Axon 7 as my daily phone and will never give it up for the reason of Dolby atmos. I'm not a OP3 fanboy. Like I said in the review if you wanted to read critically that I find it funny how a company can claim its the flagship killer and still do the little things wrong. Once again don't put words in my mouth.

The stuff you add as making the Axon 7 as "superior" I give 2 f's followed by an "u" then a "cks" about. Don't ever use the headset, you can have mine if you want. Passport 2.0, really? If replacing a phone because a retard drops it when they are drunk then HTC would be the best brand in the world. Actually, Passport 2.0 is actually a disadvantage to development of the phone since it is dangled out as a reason not to root your phone. The whole unlocked bootloader issue is the fact that ZTE will let you unlock then disown you as a customer in the same breath. Each their own ace but the Axon 7 is a nice phone but not the second coming of Christ. Just my opinion :silly:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jon199021:
Posts like this are the reason for TLDR... get to the damn point.

That aside, thanks for taking the time to make a post and trying to be useful at least.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] daneoleary:
Unnecessarily wordy. Doesn't offer any information you wouldn't know if you'd ready basically any other reviews for these phones. You said you weren't going to talk about specs, and then you went and talked about most of these devices' specs.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
For all the gen-y & millennial kids....

AXON 7 OK... not best

OnePlus 3 about same, missing EQ, makes AXON 7 better....

Pokemon Go! good, reading bad!

:D
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stuartb88:
just think about this

children children, please remenber to show due respect to your fellow humans.

thought this was a great review, in the way it was written. i am tossing up between these two phones, especially now as a few days ago my exemplary oneplus one landed on its face on the bathroom floor and completely shattered itself. Like all other reviews and comparisons ive read, I am absolutely none the wiser as to which phone I should give my allegiance to. Great audio with dual front speakers! sign me up.... but then there is the possibility of custom romming and the quick updates and infinite improvements that come with an active dev. community... mmm maybe stick op3... who knows, wish i could afford a sony zx5 or the new nexus when it arrives. to find a true prince amongst theives is always a challenge...

BUT now, this ram gb thingy issue. has anyone thought about the future... we know android is not so good at utilising and streamlining ram usage. So what, at this piont it hardly uses any ram, and the app devs just gotta right cleaner code.

Well someone will probably shoot me now for using the W word, but can you believe in 2016 they still make new hghm, windows laptops with 2 gb ram, really... the least i have for that os is 8gb. and that often doesnt seem like enough.

but I meander. THe future Horatio, is made of technical wonders not even dreamt of yet, and theyll be in production at exponentially shorter and quicker time loops. where am i going with all this i dont hear you ask..

3D, VR , people running around with funny goggles connected to their..... cellphone. im a bit thick around the ears with all this new tech fangdango, but i imagine running VR graphics could be a tad ram heavy for a littlke cellphone.

Within the next phone cycle, ie 12 months, maybe a cheap phone that can match, or maybe even out perform the big boys at VR, might be the brand getting the most (good ) press this time next year.. or in 6 months..

Is that a possibility? cause im confused, no one has mentuoned it, all these discussions about 4gb v 6gb and software management an this an that, but no ones mentioned engineering for a VR future, ( or some other use that we havent thought of yet)... am i really the only sane one in the room? oh wait, yeh ok, there is that, ok forget that...

but really is this a valid piont in the discussion or not?

keep up the good work.,,, love your commute.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
So remember that the Axon 7 is the first Google DayDream certified phone on the market currently meaning that it meets or exceeds Googles VR requirements for cardboard and their new VR headset yet to be released (probably with the new nexus phones). The OP3 in theory works with VR but does not have that certification. What that means moving forward, who knows... might be significant might not be.

With the ability to now root even though zte voids the warranty for your efforts, we should get some development. The worry is updates. Would like to if zte keeps up with google security updates plus some occasional hot fixes. So far, 1 update. Will this be it for like 5 months, who knows. Zte doesn't have a great track record. Anyway personally I would choose the Axon 7 for the audio alone. That's just my opinion though :good:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] shadowxaero:
What I need to know.

I am one of the Audiophiles whose entire music collection is in FLAC most of which is 24bit at that.

Can the Axon 7 drive a pair of 60 ohm-ish (62 to be exact) headphones or do I still need to carry around my DAC lol????
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Wish I could help with this and give you a definitive answer... I know the processing power is there... dolby atmos lets you equalize as needed (some people don't like dolby atmos because it takes a little to get use to)... the headphone jack itself is standard and may not have the amplification needed to push. if you live in the united states, I would say order it from Amazon like I did and get the no strings attached (that is, unless you break it or drop it :silly: ) free 30-day trial... if it doesn't meet your needs, no harm no foul, just return it for full money back. Outside of that hopefully someone that uses the Axon with nice headphones can chime in. As far as a music / sound-centric device, it is probably the best out there right now... LG V20 is right around the corner too and it maybe the best phone for sound yet, but not much is known yet on the phone plus it won't cost no $400 either... someone help a a guy out and chime in on headphone experiences!!! :good:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] daneoleary:
As an owner of both, I figure I'll give you my two cents.

The Axon 7 has some really impressive hardware. The 2K screen is great, the Dolby Atmos front-facing speakers are amazing. But that's really the only two things the Axon 7 has over the OnePlus 3. I understand that everyone's opinion is going to differ in terms of design, but I am much more partial to the design of the OnePlus 3. To me, the Axon 7 looks too HTC-like, and I never liked HTC phones. The software on the Axon 7 is atrocious and lightyears behind the OnePlus 3, which also has a thriving development community behind it. ZTE only just recently allowed bootloader unlocking and it remains to be seen whether they're going to provide any of the phone's stock firmware, which is kind of important if you brick your phone or something. Since you're on XDA, I'm inclined to believe you're probably an Android tweaker and want the option to customize ROMs. Within a couple weeks of the OnePlus 3 being out, there was an impressive selection of ROMs. Now the ROMs even offer the Dash charging everyone loves.

As for VR, obviously the 2K screen is obviously positioned better. Plus, ZTE has said that the Axon 7 is "Daydream ready", which essentially means that it only needs Android Nougat and you'll be able to use Google's new Daydream VR platform.

Everyone's needs are different. Overall, I'd say the OnePlus 3 is a better phone, but not by such a huge margin. If you find that the lack of 2K screen on the OnePlus 3 is an issue and the Axon 7's Dolby front-facing speakers are a major draw, go with the Axon. Personally, I think I want to like the Axon 7 more than I actually do.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nathasnajperowa:
Otherwise my opinion, I love htc flagship phones and htc-like looking phones.

Now i use Htc 10 and Oneplus 3.

I wait for Axon 7 from Amazon.de (live in Europe). Definitely i'll sell oneplus 3. I can see pixel on screen plus its underlight is uneven. Audio very poor.

Its worth to mention oneplus shaved some costs and put poor antennas, GPS, BT, WiFi modules etc.

Htc 10 + Oneplus 3
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcrompton:
Thank you for the comparison .... but why in hades would they not put an sdcard slot on the oneplus 3 ????? That's such a drawback for me
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrWilsonxD:
:victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory: He used bantha poodoo in a sentence!!!!!!!!!! :victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:

And thank you. OP. This was a very helpful review! :laugh:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] user2837:
First of all

First of all, please take some of your time to head over to https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html - and read about the benefits of 24bit + 96Khz/192Khz.

Then to be really sure spend an afternoon doing true double blind (abx) testing of your favourite music against standard 16bit lossless FLAC, using the same hardware, same equalizer settings (try "off") and the exact same loudness/volume and be sure the tracks are from the same analog to digital master/source.

I would suggest reading up on proper ways to conduct abx testing with a computer as the music source since it's not easy to know what really goes on inside a smartphone which might be tuned for perceived HD or whatever sound, not unlike how it has become common to "tune" mobile cpus to score better when certain benchmarking processes are detected.

Good luck and have fun :victory:?!

(And then later try the exercise again using vorbis q8 or so against FLAC 16bit just for fun ...)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] logix225:
Ashburton, what you should get from this review is that both phone are super great for 400 bucks. You can not go wrong with either.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] BableMan:
Axon 7 was butchered by zte, get a oneplus. I've also had both and zte has proven itself to be full of crap. The bootloader unlock program was crippled(cost you the great warranty) then shuttered, it quit advertising daydream compatibility, the dev scene is limited to three gentlemen who are very frustrated with zte, the signal issues have been mostly ignored plus they're probably the reason we won't see T-Mobile wifi calling certification, and when you tinker too much with the crap software you end up in complex Chinese only menus. The axon 7 is like a playboy bunny, gorgeous hardware but the software will leave you very unhappy ;) Go to ztes forums on their site and you'll see that there are barely any positive posts.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] borijess:
I had the oneplus 3 and prefer the axon 7. Just holding out for some more devs to come. I am on zadmix and its working great.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lafester:
B29 is good for me. Just got the phone so I can't comment on previous builds. Getting much better speeds then mxpe.