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[Huawei MediaPad X2] shaolin95:
Yes please keep the X2 now that I just joined the family :D
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
It's not going anywhere, no worries.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] astuntas:
Question to Z3 ultra users: how do you like the camera of that device? Weak camera of X2 is the bigest disadvantage of this phone, as much as my experience tells. I wonder how about Asus?
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Honestly I thought both cameras were pretty much the same as far as quality goes.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] hagba:
Wise decision, besides we need you here on this forum..!!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] omniphil:
I think i've pretty much decided on the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra as my X2 replacement. But that will depend on what US pricing is. Anything under $500 and I'm in... I was worried about the Ultra not having the Snapdragon 8xx, but it seems that the Snapdragon 6xx it has is still about 30% faster than the X2 so that will work fine.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Yeah if they release a US version I'll he buying one as well. I'll have my MI Max by tomorrow (friends aunt bought one for me in China and she came back today) but it would be nice to have LTE support. I think the ultra will be just over $500......hopefully. I can't wait to have to listen to my critics who scold me for having such a large phone. I think they are just envious that such a device exists and they don't own one.

I went back to my X2 as my daily driver the other day. The screen on the 6P is just too small for me. I mean it's great for times like when I go camping in Jersey (next week) because it's not huge in my pocket and the camera is much better but I feel like anything under six inches is just tiny. Plus the battery life on the X2 is outstanding compared to the 6P.... 8-9 hours of screen on time vs. 4-5.

Huawei is releasing Honor Note 8 soon with a 6.6 inch screen. It will be interesting to see if it has the US LTE bands.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] shaolin95:
People will always talk man you know how that goes. Same as people that do not like Smartwatches.

I got mine LG Watch R because I found it cheap and I thought I wouldnt use it much but then it just became an extension of my phone (specially for us big phone users) and now I will surely miss it if I didnt have one.

My X2 arrives today!!!!!!!!!!! :D
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Great news. You'll have to unlock the bootloader when you get it (use DCUnlocker) then you can simply flash twrp in fastboot and flash whatever rom you want since I already updated it to B201 for her.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] shaolin95:
Ah so its running stock B201? Then I will probably flash one of the Roms you posted. Thanks for the info!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] omniphil:
I doubt we'll ever get the Zenfone 3 Ultra as an actual US phone. It will be from overseas just like the X2. It would be nice to have US LTE, but I haven't had US LTE in a long time so I don't care too much. HSPA+ is plenty fast enough for me. It seems like the Zenfone 3 ultra will be just that little bit smaller to make it more pocket friendly too. Oh and it will have off screen buttons, so you have more screen thats usable anyways. (I hate on screen buttons, don't like giving up screen real estate)

I also love my X2 for camping. I charge it up at work on Friday and It won't need to be charged again until Monday or Tuesday.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
I refuse to pay $500 for a non US phone with no LTE support. I bought the MI Max because it's $300 in China for an 128gb model. Hopefully someone, anyone will release a 6.44-6.9 inch phone with full US LTE support like the Mate 8. Then I wouldn't mind paying over $500 for it.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Yep the phone is pretty much a virgin.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] shaolin95:
hahahah sounds awesome :D
[Huawei MediaPad X2] omniphil:
Yeah, true. I think I paid under $400 for the X2. Maybe the Zenfone 3 Ultra will be cheap too?

I love the X2 but their memory manager has to go (This was even worse on the X1 I still have), I am really tired of apps that keep closing in the background automatically. Android handles this perfectly, I don't know why Huawei does this. You don't need to close apps.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
Zenfone specs actually look pretty nice except for the battery capacity of 4600mah which could have been made 5000+. However I am one of the few who actually LIKE the Huawei EMUI security and battery management features for customization. The only thing I don't like about being unrooted with it is not being able to remove or better control a few of Huawei's bloatware apps.

Lastly, the price on the Zenfone could be lower and in the range of the X2 which is not as overpriced.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] omniphil:
Oh, I like the Phone Manager app will all the extra features it brings to the table, but I have to disable it because otherwise apps will get closed in the background even if I have them set as "Protected".

So if it worked properly then I would be all for it :)
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
I don't have this issue unless I press the swipe to close (or close all) as long as I set them as protected. Imo Huawei just needs to fix/disable the swipe to close protected apps. It's also how the app is written and if it has a consistent notification setup because some apps do not get killed regardless of swiping up. Example is Alarm Clock xTreme.

The only thing I really wish I had control of in Phone Manager with Stock unrooted is Networked Apps and Permissions controls for system apps which is purposely disabled and is annoying. Perhaps AJ [MENTION=1397125]ajsmsg78[/MENTION] will come up with a simple solution for this ;)

In general though, it is great and I love being able to restrict permissions on the fly!

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I don't have this issue unless I press the swipe to close (or close all) as long as I set them as protected. Imo Huawei just needs to fix/disable the swipe to close protected apps. It's also how the app is written and if it has a consistent notification setup because some apps do not get killed regardless of swiping up. Example is Alarm Clock xTreme.

The only thing I really wish I had control of in Phone Manager with Stock unrooted is Networked Apps and Permissions controls for system apps which is purposely disabled and is annoying. Perhaps AJ [MENTION=1397125]ajsmsg78[/MENTION] will come up with a simple solution for this ;)

In general though, it is great and I love being able to restrict permissions on the fly!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Pics of the X2 and Mi Max together.

Flashing roms on the phone is really easy. You can buy the Chinese version and easily cross flash the International rom on it. I wish Huawei would let us do that as easily without having to mod everything to convert.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] thgxda:
Hi everybody,

I am thinking about replacing my Google Nexus 7-2013 with an other 7" tablet. I use it exclusively as tablet, for phone it is ways to big, my smartphone has 3,5"!

Actually I'm fine with the N7, but I do not like the 16:9 and mobile data, that is not included in my one, would be nice from time to time. The biggest issue is the limited space of 32 GB without the possibility to expand it with a SD-card. The good thing is, that it is still supported by Google and that you get tons of alternative ROMs incl. CyanogenMod.

I've seen, that the next Google Nexus tablet might be a 7" Huawei, probably similar to the X2, but for sure without SD-card-slot, so definitively no option for me!

So maybe the X2 32GB/LTE would be nice, at least 16:10 and even smaller than the N7, but as far as I have seen, there never will be an alternative ROM, not based on the original Huawei ones because of the "non-standard" CPU/GPU and missing sources?

So it might be possible, that 6.0 will be the last Android-version for the X2 and the none of the alternative ROMs comes near to the Android AOSP without any of the crap, Huawei pre-installs on the tablet?

What about the MediaPad T2 7.0 32GB/LTE?

It has an Snapdragon 615, so alternative ROMs like CM might be possible, but not yet available? The MediaPad T2-section of XDA-Devs only covers the 8.0" and 10.0"-versions which are based on the Kirin930 too.

The price seems to be 30% lower than the one for the X2, but it is difficult to get it in Germany, I just found one shop in UK, that delivers the CN-version (PLE-703L CN ver.), does this support also German as language?

In addition, it only hat 2,4GHz WLAN and some bands are missing because of the CN version, 2G is the same, 3G/UMTS: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1900MHZ, 2100MHz (1700MHz, 1800MHz missing) and 4G/LTE: 1800MHz, 1900MHz, 2100MHz, 2300MHz, 2600MHz (700MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1700MHz missing).

So hard decision, any hints?

Thank you very much,

kind regards,

thgxda
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
The X2 has matured quite well and it's easy to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom so I would get it over the M2 7.0.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] thgxda:
Hi ajsmsg78,

thank you very much for your answer!

That's a good hint!

But, what about the "future" of the X2? Right now, Huawei published the upgrade to Android 6, what about Android 7, will it come? What about frequent security updates?

I do not know Huawei really, I have no clue how good their support is in two or three years, because as far as I understood, we need their support to get new Android versions, correct?

It is not that I install every Update without need, I still have a HP TouchPad with Android 4.0 that works and even my GN7 still has 4.4, because there is no need to upgrade it and it works as it should, I'm just to lazy to do the update.

But I can update them if I want, the GN7 even up to Android 7 that just arrives!

I had very bad experiences with my Omate TrueSmart watch, that just sucks!

It's not that the hardware is really bad, I still like it, it's the software, I do not get any updates because there is no support for the MediaTek chipset at all :(

Right now, Android 4.2 is installed on the TrueSmart, that means, no BT4LE, so no external heart-rate sensors etc. and some other problems, f.ex. sensors only work with screen on - step counter? sleep tracking? Forget it!

There is a community port for Android 4.4 that should be better, but because the lack of support by Omate and MediaTek, some chipset drivers are missing and thus no sensors are working anymore :(

Today I'll pass by a local electronic shop and will have a look at the X2, may be it is good enough to just get it ;)

Thanks again,

kind regards,

thgxda
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
We may get android 7 on the X2 but even if we don't, Android 6 will still be good for at least two more years.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
I think they should concentrate on fixing B211's GPS issue and a few other annoying bugs first.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] thgxda:
Hi ajsmsg78,

today I was at my local dealer, having a look to the X2, it's a really great device, for a 7" tablet still quite small and with good screen and fast enough.

After some discounts I said ok, I'll take one, unfortunately it finally was out of stock, the demo device (5 month in the display) was the last one but he was not willing/able to give me a relevant rebate for this, so I didn't bought it.

Android 6 probably will be good even for longer time and at the moment there is no reason to switch to 7, it's still to early - anyway the new split screen is definitively a great feature I would like to get in future.

But how about security fixes for Android that has to be included in the OS? Has Huawei delivered any of these in the past for their devices? Or is it possible to integrate these fixes into the ROM by the community (means by you :D )?

Thanks and kind regards,

thgxda

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you mean there is a bug in the Android 6 ROM of the X2, so that there are problems with the GPS?

This would be a no-go for me, because accurate and stable GPS is absolutely mandatory for me!

I tested it in the shop an even there I got a good GPS signal, but the X2 still was on Android 5.0.

Kind regards,

thgxda
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
Here is the thread, seems to be related to Android 6 Marshmallow not 5

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3413708
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Hey guys, well the time came and I just sold my X2. I'll still do KangVIP Slim for as long as I can. I may purchase an Honor Note 8 soon and hopefully do a KangVIP Slim on it.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] H.Hussein.H:
Good luck AJ
[Huawei MediaPad X2] goon-heaven:
Thank you AJ for all your ROMs!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
You guys are all awesome. This is the best forum I've ever taken a part in. We all helped one another for over a year and a half now. I learned a lot while doing the roms. I've helped a few users who shipped me their phones, I've sold a phone to a user on here and I've met a lot of nice people from all over the world. You guys are all my friends. You can find me on Facebook, the name is AJ Jonassen. I wouldn't usually post that publicly but it would be nice to keep in touch with you guys. Have a good night. BTW, a friend is the one who bought my X2 so I'll still technically see it every Friday night at my bowling league :)
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
AJ, thanks again for your awesome work!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] jasonleeg:
Thank you for you're work on the X2, and please let this community know how you get on with the Honor note 8, it looks a great phone and I thought of buying one myself but it doesn't feel right just yet.

I've downloaded fasterGPS from the play store, set to UK and google maps seems to be working fine, haven't needed to use it for navigation since using Kang but nevertheless, it still locates me.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Max and am enjoying it. There are CM13 and other roms out for it as well. I'm doing a Resurrection Remix ROM for it currently. The problem with Huawei is there will be no roms for the Kirin cpu's other than stock. They don't seem to want to release the sources so it's keeping me away from another Kirin powered phone. And to be honest, the Snapdragon 652 feels as fast as the Kirin 950 in the Mate 8.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
AJ, can you comment about the battery of the 4800mah of the MI Max in comparison to the X2? I know the battery sizes are practically the same, but Huawei has amazing battery saving techniques built in and there is also the hardware efficiency factor.

Also does the stock allow for permission and batt customization without modding like Huawei EMUI? Thx
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Battery life is VERY similar. The Mi Max phone manager isn't in your face like the Huawei one. Xiaomi has battery saving apps like Huawei. I'm running Resurrection Remix on my Mi Max and I'm getting between 7-9 hours of screen on time with heavy use.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] mtyler7807:
I might get a Note 8, I have been through so many phones since I sold my x2. 2 -Note 4, 1 - note 5, and now I got the leeco letv x900. Samsung does well with the multi screen and the ability to have a floating window but to me they are so slow because of the number apps even after bloatware was disabled. But the letv x900 is a beast. I can deal with no 4glte in usa to get the performance increase. If the letv2 had a bigger screen like the letv x900 I would have gotten that because there 4glte works here. Do you have a place other than aliexpress or gearbest or ebay to get a china phone?
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
I want the honor note 8 but don't wanna pay over 400 for a phone with no LTE plus it will never get any custom ROM's other than stock. I have used Gizok for a few phone purchases. They seem to be reliable to me. I also have a Chinese friend and his family is always going back and forth to China so I have whoever is there bring me a phone back when they come back here. It's usually about $100 cheaper that way. I bought the 128GB/4GB model for $300 even.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] christcentric:
Hi ajsmsg78,

PM'ed you about the P8 Max, hope you can reply (Sorry I know this is a different thread but I'm just trying to get your attention :))
[Huawei MediaPad X2] Benjiro:
Also going to sell my X2. I still love my X2 but i noticed that i leave it too much at home because its hassle to carry around.

Especially when its good weather and your out without a jacket. And the wife complained that i left to phone too much at home *lol*.

Ended up buying a Oukitel K6000 ( 6000Mah battery ) in a smaller package. Its a cheap phone, slightly slower then the X2 but all the other specs are ok. Especially for a 140 Euro price tag. And a 6000Mah battery that even outlasts my X2 with another 20+%. Yes Sir!

Mostly i have moved to a Cube i7 Book Windows 10 Tablet for more work/useable and a smaller long lasting K6000 as phone but still long lasting. Android can do a lot but it can not beat having a Windows 10 Tablet in your briefcase when going out. And still having a smartphone, when your tablet is at home / annoying to carry around for small quick shopping.

Its a great phone the X2 but it just becomes too inconvenient. But it teached me one thing. I LOVE big battery phone's. The K6000 is smaller, lighter ( only 10% ) but packs a bigger battery then even the X2. So it solves my problems. And well ... For 140 euro, its worth the risk. *lol*. I do not need a ultra fast phone. Even cheap phones like this, are already so speedy, that you do not notice the difference for basic tasks. And unless you game, there really is no need for the next Samsung S7 Ultra Speedy Monster phone ( that cost a arm and leg ).
[Huawei MediaPad X2] letschky:
I sold my X2 today and i think i will the Xiaomi Max or the Honor Note 8.

I test for 3 Days the Xiaomi Note 3 Pro Global Version with Band 20,but it´s not my Thing.

What is the better Way Honor Note 8 or Xiaomi Max?

My Mate 8 I keep :)
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
The Xiaomi Mi Max. The battery is larger, it has an IR Blaster and you can flash my build of Resurrection Remix or Stock Global Rooted rom on it :)
[Huawei MediaPad X2] letschky:
Ok,this is a Worth.

Thanks Man

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Is much difference between SD 650 and 652?
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Not really but I'd go for the Helium model (the SD652 with either 64 or 128gb) Gizok has the 128GB model for $309.99.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] trurl3:
What about Honor Note8 ?
[Huawei MediaPad X2] Benjiro:
Some battery results on the K6000 Pro vs X2:

Wifi on, cell off, Youtube playing fullscreen & partial screen, 2 hours and 42 minutes:

X2: 81%

K6000: 79%

The two percent difference seems to be because the X2 has the strange habit of being very slow going from 100 -> 99%. Technically both devices are consuming the same ( note: the K6000 Pro is still fresh and has only one charge, where as the X2 is more calibrated ).

Both devices are literally dropping at the same speed, keeping withing the same margin.

The big difference is that the X2's screen is larger but is running with less screen brightness. Where as the K6000 with a smaller screen has much more brightness. Its hard to match both devices there screen's on the same brightness.

On 50% ( both devices ) the K6000 Pro is like a flashlight compared to the dim screen on the X2. Another difference i noticed is how yellow the X2's screen is. Very dull looking compare to the K6000 pro.

Take also in account, the X2 is running with only Chrome/YouTube in memory on Android 5, where as the K6000 Pro is running with a load of programs still in memory ( standard android so not sure where to onload them ). Despite the K6000 Pro its slower ( on paper ) CPU/GPU combination, its just as speedy in all the actions as the X2. The difference being that its more compact and fits in my pocket. ;)

Stats:

X2: Chrome ( 43% ), Screen ( 33% ), Android System ( 12% ), Media Server ( 6% ), Android OS ( 4% ), Wi-Fi ( 2% ) - Mostly because the movie got cached...

K6000 Pro: Screen ( 16% ), Chrome ( 3% ), Android System ( 2% ), Mediaserver ( 1% )

X2 is calculated on 100%, where as the K6000 Pro shows percentage based upon the battery percentage used.

Its clear that the real power drain on the K6000 is the Screen, where as the power drain on the X2 seems to be the applications ( = cpu ). Putting the screen to 0 on both makes the X2 difficult to read where as the K6000 is still very bright. I think after some tweaking the setting to more match, the K6000 will produce less drainage. Its just hard to match with two so different screens, especially the X2 its yellow screen. Even at 10% on the K6000, it looks more bright then the X2 on 50%. Going to test with those setting maybe tomorrow.

The K6000 screen is way more color accurate / whiter / stronger color. GPS so far perfect. Cell reception is about the same. Wifi slightly weaker ( about 10% ). Both drop on the same spots a bar down but the X2 can recover slightly better. Camera on the K6000 Pro is better then the X2. Its not going to win any awards but its more useable.

Also note: K6000 runs stock with no addition power saving enable where as the X2 runs with power saving enabled ( forgot about that *oeps* ).

O ... did i forget to mention that the K6000 Pro is a 135€ phone. *lol*. The X2 is still selling for almost 320€. Even second hand models do 250+... Really do not understand why phone's cost 600/800 euro's for "top" models when some cheap phone's can do all the basic stuff ( beyond maybe gaming ) same these days.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
Isn't the K6000 only a 5.5" device?
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
The Honor Note 8 is too expensive for me not to have LTE support.
[Huawei MediaPad X2] Benjiro:
Yea, but with the battery life of the X2. Its way more mobile then the X2. Love the big screen but when your leaving your phone home too much because its not practical to carry around ( especially in summer etc ), then there is a issue. Even in winter in my jacket, you can feel it on your chest all the time because of the size.

Until they make a clap shell devices where you can open it up to see two displays as one, bigger screens will simply mean impractical devices to carry on your person. Note: In Japan they did made a clapshell device with two screen that open up as one. But hard to find in the rest of the world and its hardware is now outdated ( and expensive to buy ).
[Huawei MediaPad X2] shaolin95:
Well that is just your opinion. For me the device is perfect shape and size and I NEVER felt like I had to leave it home so to each its own. Guess is one of those things that we all have to try to see if it works or not. All I know is that a 5.5. looks like a midget next to my phone and I would NEVER give up on this size of screen and specially this screen ratio which now I preferred much more than the normal 16:9

Regards
[Huawei MediaPad X2] E--Man:
+1 Could not have said it better!
[Huawei MediaPad X2] ajsmsg78:
5.5", yuck! I'd rather not have a phone at all. Even my Nexus 6P I don't use much because I find it too small at 5.7". :silly: