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[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePublisher:
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.

Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.

I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.

I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] ItzCrooK2UxD:
The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lightn1ng:
I do, in terms of release cycle.

S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.

S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.

S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shofar1:
Give us a new Note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Error404html:
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pick_A_Name:
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:

http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/

Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:

http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/

I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] clubtech:
As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.

So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.

Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] midnightrider:
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!

It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.

Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] mac231us:
I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] midnightrider:
The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] nikeman513:
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...

Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!

Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...

My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!

Just my logical 2 cents...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] midnightrider:
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Touchmetallic:
Yup, I'm 100% buying the LTE version when it releases. It's already available in Germany but way too expensive to import it here.

I plan to use it as my secondary phone since my work and personal numbers are different. Currently having the Galaxy Note 8, 4 year old tablet...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] rey_1178:
And add more than just one finger print. I did the same with my nexus 6p, that way I can pretty much add many angles even if there's just a slight difference. Having said that, I do find myself at times having to use the thumb more than once to unlock but it's not all the time. Maybe I'll add one more finger print.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonerp:
Received mine today! Very nice. The keyboard looks good too.

Not yet has a proper play as at work but I'm hoping for the ridiculous price tag it should be amazing!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] ShoonMcgregor:
I've tried 3 different type of USB C dock-type devices and I can not get video out on any of them.

USB PD and keyboard/mouse work just fine however.

They are pushing DeX for the S8, seems like a better fit for the Tab since I do more productivity stuff on a tablet

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I'm having problems with my fingerprint scanner too - never had an issue with S7/Tab S2 of last gen
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] nicholb:
I too am having fingerprint reader problems. Thumb is almost unusable. I've tried setting it multiple times with about every angle and position. Index works better, but I get about as many failures as successes. Definitely worse than any Samsung device I've had yet.

Hopefully an update fixes it.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
Anyone getting terrible battery drain overnight? I am losing 10 % overnight with no use.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrism_scotland:
Mines arriving from John Lewis tomorrow, will need to buy the Keyboard if I want it as I assume it was only a Samsung Store offer in the UK.

Looking forward to it, had an S 10.5 a few years back and regretted selling it ever since. Tried the K1 Shield and was very disappointed.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] kmeleon77:
I did notice drain last night. I'm keeping an eye on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] drohm:
I'm having the same exact problem with my right thumb. Super annoying. Other than that I freaking love this tablet.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonerp:
fingerprint sensor really isnt good. I've set up a few fingerprints all on the same thumb and its still flaky. Ive reported to Samsung. Please do the same:

http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
Lost 7% in 6 hours of no use. Something seriously wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] afblangley:
FYI, if you're planning on using it as a phone, you may want to get an international variant that has telephony built in. This is removed on US carrier variants. For example, I have the Note 8 (NT 5100) which has dialer and messaging apks, plus an ear speaker and mic so I can hold it up to my face for phone calls. It is also has native Android hotspot enabled, another feature thats removed here. The only downside is the LTE radio frequencies aren't used in US, so it's limited to HSPA+ speeds.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] kmeleon77:
I'm about the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
Has anyone been able to get a working OTG connection to a USB drive? I tried using a USB C to mini USB adapter from Anker. The tablet does appear to charge when connected to a power source, but does not appear to be drawing enough to establish an OTG connection. I tried using a powered mini USB OTG cable (usb c adapter - mini usb OTG -> power source -> USB drive) but even that does not work.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AHKYIRS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I could spring for a powered USB C OTG cable, but I'm already at 30 bucks worth of accessories, and am leery of spending any more if this does not work.

Edit: Got a couple of USB c OTG cables at the nearby store. Out of 3 USB drives, 1 of the cables worked on 1 of them, the remaining 2 drives did not recognize. The second OTG cable recognized done. I think there is an issue with power draw for the OTG.

Looks like I will be returning this tab. It looks great and the performance is fantastic, but there are too many steps back compared to the S2. No adaptable Storage, flakier fingerprint reader, and now no OTG support. Very disappointing as I was holding out for this, but right now unless you're desperate for an S-Pen, there is no reason to spend an extra 250 and upgrade to get less functionality in these areas.. You can get a Tab a for half the price if the S-pen is the only requirement.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
Here is 10 and 1/2 hours with no battery drain....

I switched to G board instead of Samsung's which kept waking the tablet.

Also WiFi off when sleeping zzzzzzzzzzzz
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonathonalexander:
It's a little annoying we still don't have a dedicated forum and have to speak about it here
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrism_scotland:
I received one this morning, very nice bit of kit, agree on the cost but with the included S-Pen and Free Keyboard case its much better value than the equivalent iPad Pro - £599 v £ £797 for a 32GB non-4G iPad Pro + the Pen and Keyboard, that and I've plugged in a 200GB SD card which I can't do with the iPad.

Its dear but like I've said a few times we have to get real, the GBP:Yen exchange rate has dipped by 20% since last March, things are going to cost more. Would have liked 4G though but not paying extra for it and can always tether to my phone or use my Wifi Device.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] kmeleon77:
What do you mean by G board?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrism_scotland:
Its Google own keyboard, I've switched over to it too.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] kmeleon77:
It does seem to be the WiFi causing the drain like itchiee said. I turned it off and I'm no longer seeing drain while sleeping.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] hurray:
Does the T-820 wifi model has the vibrator for feedback built in or it is only built in the LTE model as with the Tab S2?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Extreemator:
I have galaxy tab s2 now. And i can tell that there is no difference between lcd and amoled aside more black (and less white) and a 1%less power/hour if to use black app. Default color settings oversaturate the colour which I can welcome in app usage, but looks worse in a video.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrism_scotland:
I've had vibrating from my wifi only device.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] hurray:
Thanks for the info! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] gottria:
Just got a USB C OTG adapter from Anker and works with any USB drive I throw at it. This is what I I bought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AUKU1OO/ref=psdc_3015402011_t2_B01AHKYIRS

Also have these adapters and work just fine.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I91NFUI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] clubtech:
I've so connected a midi adapter and it works fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
Thank you both for confirming. It looks like I might have had a bad unit then. I tried 2 different Anker USB c to micro usb adapters, one of which is very similar to the one that worked:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AHKYIRS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also got a couple of OTG adapters from Fry's with no luck. Tablet is already on it's way back to Amazon. I think I will wait for a month or two till it comes on sale in Costco and then pick one up and check if everything works right. Hopefully Samsung will have an update by then to fix the fingerprint reader.

In the meantime, I have a new appreciation for my aging Tab S. It's amazing how much difference the wider aspect ratio makes when consuming Media..
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] gottria:
Yea, the fingerprint sensor is a little wonkey. My S2 and GSE is flawless, I'm guessing there should be a fix via software soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
This maybe off topic but where is the Tab S3 specific forum???
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrism_scotland:
There isn't one
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Csetoue:
Is it worth the change? I'm with a rooted T810 right now.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
I wonder why it's Android device not to mention Samsungs flagship tablet

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I found the new upgrades worth it just not the $599 price point but I took the plunge and its been a good experience thus far.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] wolffe:
I hope Samsung makes an 8-inch version, although I'm not going to hold my breath.

Anyone have anything to give me hope on this?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] rey_1178:
Everything I've read points at this is the only size of the Tab S3 that will be made.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] undertaker2k14:
Nougat for original Tab S2 is out: https://xdaforums.com/tab-s2/general/7-0-sm-t810-manual-install-t3585044, makes the S3 a lot less compelling for the next few months. Hopefully it drops to $399 with the keyboard bundle in a few.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] afblangley:
If the 8"' form factor is desired, it's no big deal resorting to the S2. The S3 is a minor upgrade, except in one area. The folks really in a bind are those wanting an S Pen. Whether looking for a larger version of the Note 5 or a higher spec version of the Tab A or the sequel to the forgotten Note 8. We must be too few in number for Samsung to care about.

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[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] will6316:
got a tab s3 today from microcenter for 549 plus tax. gonna play with it see if it has otg then take it back. because nouget is on the s2 now
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
The fast charge on the 820, is nice to have too.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] gottria:
Nice to see prices coming down so quickly. I have till end of April to return mine to Amazon in hopes of a $499 price.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] nolook:
does the s3 have blue light filter or theme engine? just updated my s2 to nougut and it's missing those...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] gottria:
Blue light yes, theme store no. Was the S2 Nougat factor OTA update?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] nolook:
yes it's the OTA for UK region flashed via oden
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
I managed to sideload the S8 Samsung theme store on to the tab s3 but cant seem to find a way to open it
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] will6316:
the s3 is ok well built and the otg hit or miss but not worth 600 bucks 400 maybe. they seem to have updated the t710/t715 to nouget manual download. the s2 already runs smooth on marshmellow rooted. wish they made a 8 inch version of the s3
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rob F1UK:
The 4G Tab S3 now appears to be available on the UK Samsung store...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] elchmartin:
I ordered the wifi version, amazon says its arriving at tuesday ... lets see.

is there going to be a forum for the s3?

didnt see anything jus yet ...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
Come on xda why are you dragging on creating a sub forum for this device?? It's being requested enough
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
It took forever for the s2...Not sure why? The s8 forum is in place, and it's not out yet. It makes no sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
Yeah seriously
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhill110:
Seems to be that way with flagship phones. Us tab users are second class and have to wait for someone to put down they're coffee and donuts.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
In other words, just like Google itself. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
It will get it eventually as it picks up, but just try and remain respectful to the admin while waiting. Sarcy comments won't enamor them to create one.

Requesting and ensuring your post subject contains references to the S3 will.

I will request an ETF as this usually gets things going.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhill110:
You ever hear of tongue in cheek. To damn serious.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
What makes you think the comment was directed at you?

Too Damn serious. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] meralake:
OTG is hit or miss? Can you explain a bit more about this? Like some flash drives work and others don't?

I'm considering buying this tablet, but can't make up my mind between the Tab s3 or the Tab s2. The OTG functionality might be the tie breaker for me.

I mostly want a tablet for playing videos while I travel, one which has a good battery life, and allows me to connect a flash drive.

Can anyone tell me if there are any problems playing videos or downloading videos for offline mode in VUDU or Netflix?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordandroid:
No problem downloading Netflix content to my 128g SD card. I also can download Amazon video content to the SD card to watch during offline usage.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] hx4700 user:
Thumb recognition is utterly annoyingly useless. Worse than the swipe fingerprint recognition on my original tab s. When Huawei can do it so extremely well (on my Mate 9) it beggars belief that a company with the resources of Samsung can release this dross.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] diehard2013:
i believe it's a software issue or strict parameters used by samsung in its code.

have you used the thumb recognition with google play when buying apps?

it's very fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] hx4700 user:
Tab S3 - it recognises my finger at an angle of about 10 degrees, in a slightly different part of the finger to that which I registered! Utterly weird. It never recognised my thumbs at any angle or location.

No I have never tried using thumb recognition to buy an app - but then I hardly buy any, and would far rather I had a slow process for that to make me think twice.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] diehard2013:
probably this is a late reply: OTG does work, all you need is a good USB-C adapter.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] midnightrider:
Good point.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-s2-2016-re-branding-with-new-cpu-and-gpu/
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeXii:
Well it kind of does make sense to make new model shortly after a refresh.

It has been pointed out that in europe the T713/T813 are called VE or Value Edition.

Right around the time the S5 came out (again in Europe) they released an Galaxy S4 "Value Edition".

The presumed reason they do this is because they sell the newer one at the normal launch retail price and at the same time they also sell the one with older specs for a lower price.

So since they are indeed calling the T713/T813 the VE in europe I would say there is a Tab S3 coming sometime between now and the holidays.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] midnightrider:
Although I did see the VE advertised on European sites that seems to have gone away. Samsung has screwed up the marketing on this. Now they're just called Tab S2 2016. They can't seem to make up their minds. It does not look like there is any better tablet coming in the near term. These are fine anyway. They should have an LED and they could use more RAM but for the price who can complain? It's like 2X the specs and performance of an iPad for half the money.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] DionWhite33:
Post 3 says just do a hard reset? Are you sure that's the right post

I have had the same 2013 N7 since they came out and its still going strong. I let my daughter use it for 3 days and she dropped it so the screen scratched really bad and that's the only reason I don't use it daily. But, like you I just thought the new version of the tab S2 and I got mine discounted for $200 at Best Buy because it was an open box. But, at the same time it's blemish-free and you can't even tell that it's ever been opened. I'm going to wait a few weeks till the Note 7 price comes down get that but even if there is a Tab S3..I love my Tab S2 and wouldn't change it...Not for a few hundred more...thats insane!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
*Deleted* Clickbait, in hindsight.