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[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
The 820 is actually a pretty good upgrade, but the 652 is still a solid chip. It's close to the 808/810, but without the space heater feature. :laugh:

http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/

That said, I have been using my 2016 Tab S2 for a while now, and I have been very pleased with it. It certainly doesn't feel like a cut-rate tablet at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] GTabJosh:
The biggest difference seemed to be 3D graphics. I don't have any need for that, so I didn't pay much attention. In a few tests, the 652 even edged out the 820 by about 10%. So I think we are far from obsolescence :).
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Yep. Tried even looking for some cheap smt815y models, same as the smt810 but with radios. Couldn't find any. I'm not a game player so it's sufficient for my needs.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
F*** it, I ordered an SM-T819 just a few moments ago in pikey gold color. I just saw the price of the new S3 wifi version ( need LTE one ) and its approx converts to 750$ USD on pre order Best Buy Canada. Considering shelf of devices for me is 12 months or under plus I dont use S pens then Im happy, paid $359 which included $120 minus amazon credit I already had. So worked out okay ish.

I was going to pull the trigger on an ebay sm-t719 for $406 minus the ebay 10% off coupon which brouhgt to around $350, but decided on larger one, my eyes were better Id gone for the smaller one for better mangebilty.:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmbfan13:
I wish they would just officially announce US price and release date. I want it for the spen support. I am currently using a Chromebook Plus, and debating on just keeping it or returning it for the S3. Problem is, i dont want to shell out $700+ for a tablet. The other option is to go for the Galaxy Tab A with spen support. But i dont care for the aspect ratio on that too much and it isnt usb type-c (minor gripes i suppose).

Ugh, why dont more tablets supports stylus/wacom support.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
$600, Best Buy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-tab-s3-9-7-32gb-black/5749903.p?skuId=5749903
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmbfan13:
Oh nice! Now, time to decide if i want to just stick with the Galaxy Tab A with spen 2016, or shell out a little more cash for the Tab S3....
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Extreemator:
600 for that ipad imitation. better go with samely overpriced google pixel c
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
I like the Pixel C's form factor a lot. However... I could live without expandable storage if I had to, but after using Amoled for years I'm not going back to LCD.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eggstones:
The s2 sounds more and more tempting by each price rumour.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eggstones:
Has it actually gone on pre-sale on the UK yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
It's now on Samsung's website for pre-order.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eggstones:
That's way too expensive for me. What's hoping it might drop. Question now is whether to go for the S2 or another brand.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] pastorbob62:
I paid $349.99 for my S2 T813 two months ago and I have seen no reason whatsoever to regret that. I love it. Nothing in the S3 specs or pricing has impressed me at all. Samsung pulled the same crap back when the original Tab was their flagship tablet and they released the Note. Overpriced, overhyped and iPad wannabe.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
Very short unboxing video if anyone's curious:

https://youtu.be/ySdYhWnAL2I
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] obsydian:
I paid £500 for my 4G S2, the S3 is £600, Stupid money. Why if I sold my S2 I would struggle to get £250, as much as I hate the iPad at least resale you could achieve allot more.

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Maybe if Samsung UK do the get a Gear watch bundle them i would get the S3 purely as I sold the Gear S2. So in the end only paid £300.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
I took the bait and ordered one... I love new tablets, its a weakness.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
Same here. Will be $540 total after ebay bucks. Im a sucker for every Tab Samsung releases. Will be nice to have stereo speakers, and fast charging. I will miss ASOP though.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
Im looking forward to the speakers, improved screen, faster processor/gpu and the pen.

- And finally fast charge on a Samsung tablet... omg its about time lol

I sold my s2, use that to pay for half of this, so only half price.... I bought the case too.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
I'm looking forward to the sm-t825y variant when prices settle
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
Improved screen??? Its the same as the s2.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
Oh so the S2 should be able to handle HDR content then, cool.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] mario..64:
I was looking forward to the Tab S3 until I found that the battery is basically the same size as the S2. Poor battery life is my big problem with the S2 so no sale for me
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] clubtech:
The processor is probably more power efficient so one can hope the S3 will have better battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
I was against this part as well... I wanted them to go back to the bigger batteries they used in the S Tabs.

But, like said above hopefully with a more power efficient processor it might be a little better.

My s7 Edge has the same processor with a 3600 battery and lasts 5-6 hours of usage.

So it might be possible to squeeze out 8-10 hours perhaps..... I'll find out this weekend!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
Heavier, too. 389g vs 429g.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] pastorbob62:
:good:

Yup!, me too! But I hate sleeping in the doghouse, so I have to temper my wants with my wife's thoughts about upgrading technology. Been an ongoing tension since my first PC build back in '89. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] afblangley:
Has anyone heard release date information on the LTE variant?

Anyone planning on buying the variant with telephony capability?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] diehard2013:
been there, done that..

and it's good.... :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonathonalexander:
The code SAMSUNGSAVE30 worked for me on the UK site, taking the price to £569 with the pre-order bonus keyboard, plus 2% back with TopCashback.

Also, they are a easyfundraising partner, up to 1.5% donation to your chosen charity.

Hope that's useful to someone.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] undertaker2k14:
What pissed me off is the planned obsolescence of the Tab S2: it can support HDR since it covers 196 % of sRGB and has an infinite contrast yet Amazon does not even support HD on it, let alone HDR like the Tab S3 with the exact same screen. How does samsung expect to charge $600 for the Tab S3 with new Ipad going for only $329 now? the SD820 cannot compete in ipad pro territorry at all. The Tab S3 should have launched with the Exynos 8890/95.

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Also, Touchwiz doesn't perform too well on snapdragon chips: my SD820 powered S7 cannot run chrome without going into a massive stutter fest (on the latest nougat build, same behavior on marshmallow earlier). My exynos 5433 Tab s2 runs it just fine: samsung's touchwiz is optimized to run on their own silicon.Puzzling why they chose the SD820 and not their own 889x chips. Anandtech has also reported that the video encoder block in SD820 is crap so poor video recording though that is a secondary concern on a tablet. Tab S3 needs to be $399 with the keyboard included for it to make any sense at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
The new "cheap" iPad is just that - cheap. Yes, you get an A9 processor (not A9X), however, it is closer to an iPad Air than an iPad Air 2. It's almost the exact same size, weight, etc. It drops the laminated glass screen, doesn't have any of the pro features at all, etc. It will be interesting to see if they stick with 1GB of RAM or finally boost it to 2GB.

Not that the Air was a lousy machine, my daughter still has one, but other than the CPU, there really isn't much of an "upgrade" in the new iPad, and in fact, it is almost a downgrade if you have an Air 2. The Tab S2 is pretty comparable to an Air 2, with better specs in several areas, so...

Not to say I disagree with your greater point, though. The SD820 is an exceptionally curious choice for a tablet, where battery life should be less of an issue. Of course the SD652 in the Tab 2 is also a curious choice, for the same reasons. The bargain bin processors really should put the pricing closer to the $400-$500 range, though.

For the money Samsung is charging it should have been a full mm thicker, have at least a 7000mAh battery, and a current generation Exynos processor.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] undertaker2k14:
First reviews are out, as expected cannot keep up with the Ipad Pro (should have had a 8895 or SD835). These will be going for $399 with the keyboard cover included soon given the reviews. The increase in performance over even the 5433 powered S2 is not that big at all. HDR is mostly a gimmick (esp. in relation to the Tab S2) since AMOLED's deep saturation and infinite blacks wouldn't make a huge improvement here unlike on LCDs where it is dramatic. I'm in for $399 with the keyboard and pen included, sitting pretty with my S2 till then.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-high-price-of-a-well-rounded-android-tablet/
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmbfan13:
I'm sorry, but that was a terrible review. I don't understand why these reviewers are constantly comparing benchmark scores. They mean nothing. The reviewer even said that they saw absolutely no problem with performance of the S3. However, because the benchmark score was lower than the iPad, they would recommend an iPad. That's awful advice for someone looking for a tablet, let alone someone looking for an Android tablet. How about the better screen, expandable storage, etc. Now, I still feel the price for the S3 is a tad high, but i would not recommend someone go buy an iPad over, say, the S2. If you dont care about a stylus or HDR, that is a great tablet. Tired of these biased reviews.

end rant.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
Reviewers do little more than posting a few pictures these days, and are heavily biased, whether subconsciously or not. Can't make a purchase decision based on what mainstream media says. Once people start getting their hands on it and actually start using it for real we will get a much better idea of what it's like.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
I think this is a very good point. The main competition for the S3 is not the iPad Pro, it’s the S2.

Consider the cost for a 128GB ipad Pro with Stylus: 699+129 = 828, almost 40% more than the S3.

(I’m using the 128 as Samsung is throwing in a 64GB card free in the US, so the S3 has 96GB)

You cannot really compare 2 products with such a cost differential and expect the same performance.

Given the expandable storage and an actual file system, it’s not a bad deal.

I have a Tab S 10.5 that I purchased in Dec 2016 from eBay. It works fine for Netflix. However, if I ever do anything involving computation or heavy browsing/downloading, it slows to a crawl. I now also have a hand me down Tab S2 8, and doing the same tasks on this changes the duration from hours to mins.

My point is that the Tab S2 can handle anything I throw at it right now, and has adaptable storage so size is not an issue. A brand new Tab S2 9.7 would cost you 450 at the most in the US, a used on eBay for 350. Is the S3 worth 150/250 more?

I preordered one, but my main go/no-go would be adoptable storage. The S2 has it, if the S3 does not that's a giant step back. I would turn right around and ship it back. Will know by next week when I get mine from Amazon.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
I'm not sure why Samsung insists on putting underpowered SoCs in tablets, where, if anything, they could max them out. Just make the things a shade fatter, put a big battery in there, and go to town. (for reference, the iPad 2 had an 11,000 mAh battery - it still outlasts every other device in the house...)

Which is why I feel like no one, not even Samsung, takes tablets seriously. It really is a shame, because I have loved my Android tablets, but I worry one day Apple will "win" the tablet crown.

That said, the S3 looks like it will be a great $300-$400 tablet one day.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
I'll buy the sm-t825 version when prices settle down since my current sm-t819 does make calls and works perfectly .

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Yep and 499$ for the LTE version international mind.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
Its great that these reviews have the completely optional keyboard as a negative in their

tablet

review...

And that its pricey... and then proceed to recommend the much pricier iPad Pro.

Never fully base your tech purchases on these reviews alone.

Unless your not even in the market, had no intention of buying it, to only sh*t on it with the competitors offering.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
My opinion is there is 0.00001% chance of you getting there anytime soon. The S2 9.7 is now 2 years old and currently sells for at least 399 new. Costco is still selling them for 429 and Bestbuy for 499 (though they had a sale at 399). I suspect the earliest you will see this tablet at 499 is around the same time next year.

Just noticed that Costco pulled the S2 9.7 version from the website. I suspect they will start selling the S3 with book cover for 599 within a month. They typically don't bundle keyboard covers.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Respectfully I couldn't careless if there is zero chance of the prices coming down , they did a mid life upgrade on the s2 which kept prices solid still but remind me , what was the MSRP of the tab s2 wifi when it was first launched in the USA ?The 2015 sm-t810 I think it was called then later sm-t813 for the 2016 beefed up one . Was it not $599? I ask as I actually don't know.

Personally I came late into tab s2 game . Buying my tab s2( 3 weeks ago) only recently knowing that the tab s3 was being launched weeks later , I didn't wait as I knew it would cost much more. I paid $399 for my wife's wifi sm-t813 and $476 for my 4G sm-t819Y which the later incidentally allows me to use as a cellphone also which was one of my requirements that most others don't allow.

Prior to this I had marvelous Sony spg771 but didn't like the screen Rez and wasn't good for my aged eyes lol nor did I watch movies .
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] undertaker2k14:
The Tab S2 SM-T810 9.7 32 GB was selling for $333 on Amazon back in Dec ' 15 with one year free netflix (yes that deal mostly paid for itself), so yes there will be massive deals on this soon enough. I do not see anyone bee lining to pay $600+tax for this anytime soon, and inventory needs to be moved. Samsung themselves fire sold the T-813/713 S2s multiple times last year for $299/199 FYI.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonathonalexander:
debating whether to cancel my pre-order (with the keyboard cover thrown in free) .... ughhh
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
Well this does it for me. I did want to cancel my pre-order. I guess I can live with my ancient Tab S and Tab 2 8 for a few more months till the price stabilizes. Turns out I cannot cancel, though, since it ships with the SD card and that already came in. So will have to wait ill next week, get it and send it back. (At which point I might be tempted to keep it...:(
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] obsydian:
Just ran the numbers again (as in if i sold my S2 9.7 4G 32GB/Cover/Keyboard, at best i'd get £300, i paid £580, but it was offset by selling my Tab S and the Gear S2 bundled - so NET i paid £180.

The S2 4G alone cost me £449, the S3 WIFI is £599 and it is not even 4G and £150 more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think i'll wait to see if a good Samsung bundle deal comes up, otherwise it really isn't worth the upgrade, i don't use the S Pen, the S2 display is awesome enough as is the processor, AKG speaker wise i always use my BT headset so pointless for me, Samsung Flow is still not as the Apple equivalent, only plus is fast charge as the S2 is painfully slow but does last on a full charge.

Interesting Apple snook in the iPad for £339, which to me is a watered down Air 2, but gotta say plenty of sheep will run to this offer.

So in summary Samsung release the S3 WIFI (£599) costing £260 than the S2 WIFI (£339) and Apple release a cost reduced iPad for £339.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
The new cheap iPad is closer to an iPad Air with an A9 (not A9X) processor upgrade. It's even the same size and weight as the Air. Still, the Air itself isn't a bad tablet (my daughter loves her hand-me-down Air) but this new low-cost iPad strips out most of the nice things about the Air 2, including the very nice laminated display. (Pretty sure it still has TouchID, but I'd have to go re-read the specs again)

So, think of the new iPad as an Air with a CPU upgrade, sort of like the "Value Edition" Tab 2 got a new Snapdragon to replace the previous Tab 2's Exynos SoC.

It is a tablet that Steve Jobs would have never permitted were he alive, but Tim Cook is a bit more reasonable about such things.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] episode96:
I think part of the problem is that prices outside of USA are also terrible this time around compared to last year's IIRC.

When the Tab S2 was released, it launched at $500 <=> 500€ <=> £400

For the Tab S3, we've got instead $600 <=> 679€ <=> £600

With the keyboard thrown in for, say, £500, I almost certainly would just go ahead and buy the Tab S3 on impulse buy, even if I know prices always go down in a few months. At £600 is just way too much.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
The pen is adding to the cost... It retails for $80 on the Samsung website. It would have reduced some whine if it were optional like the keyboard.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
I'm loving the s2 more and in fact donwgraded cellphone to smaller device as I find myself using the tab much more . Plus the benefit being 4G I can use it here in the USA T Mobile and UK on EE network.

I guess I'm one of those rare breeds that prefers tablets over Mobile's lol as for the s pen personally couldn't give a toss rarely did I use it on the note 3 or note 4.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshamlet:
The pen is actually one of the few things I find compelling about the S3, as I suspect it would be a lot more useful on a tablet, which is almost the size of a sheet of paper.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] GaresTaylan:
Anyone had a chance to use one yet? My local best buy had them in but not on display. I've seen a few reviews mention that the palm rejection is more or less non-existent.Since I would be using it to take notes that would be a deal breaker for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmbfan13:
I just picked one up. The palm rejection works just fine and how you would expect. Not sure where you saw that or why they would say that. Havent had a lot of time to fully take it through it's paces, but it's fast, smooth and everything I expected! Super thin and great build quality! Love it!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] GaresTaylan:
Sorry, poor wording on my part. The reviews were video reviews and the palm rejection wasn't working. I dont recall which apps were being used, however. I think one was the ARStech review and the other was maybe android authority?

So, I was able to visibly see palm rejection not working right. Could have been something they were doing wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] dmbfan13:
Thats strange. I wonder what app it was. I just launched S Note (which i sideloaded), as well as Squid, and it worked perfectly. I will be using it for note taking at work, so I'm in the same boat as you. But I can say, with mine, it works flawlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] valiran:
Got mine today (grom iPad mini2).

Do you think this => https://www.amazon.fr/HooToo-puissa...qid=1490400354&sr=8-9&keywords=usb-c+3.1+hdmi

Would work, HDMI + charge included?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
Tab s3 is a major upgrade in many ways. Build quality is top notch. The speakers are waaayyy better than s2, and OS is smooth as silk.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] nolook:
after just getting the Nougat update on my s7 I'm tempted to get the s3 but will most likely keep my tab s2 8 since nougat shouldn't be too far off... but if the s3 price drops fast i may just buy...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] GaresTaylan:
I picked one up last night and so far am enjoying it. The fingerprint scanner is LOADS faster than the s2 and palm rejection with the spen seems to do a decent job. I have come across a couple apps that it doesn't work well in.

I do kind of miss the 8" size of my s2. I'll have to see how well it works for notes when I'm back in the office on Monday.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itchiee:
And it has vibration for those that care for it...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] rey_1178:
Just got home from best buy with one. Haven't done much with it so far. I'm coming from a tab s so am hoping it's a significant upgrade. The s pen was a big reason to get it. I'm not seeing things like Samsung's theme store so hope they eventually do that. Can't find the settings for the back lit buttons so they stay on longer.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
I wouldn't count on the theme store. I'm actually kind of pissed it doesn't have it.I am sure when(IF?) we get root, we can add the theme store. And yeah no settings for the lights.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] chanukya:
Got mine from Amazon today. 2 issues I found:

1) Fingerprint reader is flakier than the one on the S2 or an iPad. Especially the thumb - you have to put it just right for it to pick up. Index finder seems to work fine.

2) No adoptable storage hack. The work around being used for the S2 and S7 edge ( https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-adoptable-storage-for-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge/) does not work here. This is my biggie. If no one comes up with a hack that could make storage work within the next few weeks, I will probably return it, since it's a step back from the S2. I have 18.5GB of storage left after installing my default apps. That's not a lot of AAA titles...
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Masteryates:
Bet it's not got other luxuries like a notification LED though? ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
My tab s2 has got vibration notification. Does that s3 have LED notification?