yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[prjkt.io] pkelly517:
You also can format system and flash your ROM and gapps.

That should almost certainly cures what ails you. If not, clean flash cures all.
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Sorry I haven't been following the convo, but just a quick note:

Legacy should be flashed on a non OMS device. Like CM or stock. This removes the overlays in vendor/overlay or system/overlay depending on what device you have.

Non Legacy should be flashed on OMS devices. You'd know if your device is OMS if you launch Substratum and it doesn't say legacy in the action bar. This deletes overlays.xml.
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
What's the last version of Substratum that profiles was not grayed out? (Legacy)
[prjkt.io] timurdis:
Thanks. That's what I had to do, a clean flash & fortunately it worked. I just don't know what's wrong with my Substratum theme engine, strangely it never really worked for me. I followed the given procedure still either it would apply the theme halfway or never & eventually when it applied theme completely it stuck on boot screen. My updated ROM doesn't even have the theme engine, I'm afraid I'll ever use it again.
[prjkt.io] Ja_som:
Try this v424

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/projek...undred-twenty-four-android-apk-download/#file
[prjkt.io] zmalach:
one plus 3 stock

How did you use the Substratum on your op3? Did you root you device? Please explain step by step
[prjkt.io] Spannaa:
Root your OP3

Install the substratum app from the playstore

Install a substratum theme from the playstore

Open the substratum app

Apply the theme
[prjkt.io] xerxes101:
Whycant use on xperia z2..cant compile any theme
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
What ROM?
[prjkt.io] xerxes101:
Stock mm .291 rooted
[prjkt.io] Mar-cel:
Substratum bootloops Android 7.1

How to fix that?
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
If you look at the Description in the Play Store - You'll see that Substratum doesn't support 7.1 yet - It just happens to work on some Roms and some devices - it's mostly working on my Roms on a few different devices - not 100% but for me pretty well.

Try a different Rom or different Substratum Theme. Nandroid FIRST!

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] Pkt_Lnt:
Read. This is from the Play Store. It is also posted here many times.

Uninstall and wait
[prjkt.io] zmalach:
it works on rooted stock Oxygen Os?
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Yes that is the instructions from both the Play Store & this Thread - It is however working on some Devices running 7.1 on some Roms - Clearly it's the USERS RESPONSIBILITY if they have any issues & Most Certainly they can't complain or expect ANY support!

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] vkp1997:
I Flashed rescue.zip in my cm 14.1 but it didn't recovered from bootloop. Then I read your post and flashed legacy_rescue.zip.

Finally it recovered. Thank you. But it would have been easier if you post this in OP. One more question....... Did flashing simple rescue zip first would have deleted something important from my rom? Just a little panic.
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
No, if you're not on OMS you don't have the file deleted.
[prjkt.io] Spannaa:
The post you quoted says it does...
[prjkt.io] Tingordz:
Hi Guys,

I just want to know if this masterpiece works with my custom ROM?

I'm on Nagasaki 1.5 xperia z3+ rooted. I've been looking around by myself and honestly, i cound'nt find any answer :( ..

thanks in advance.
[prjkt.io] Ja_som:
Substratum does not bootloop 7.1, theme does, you need to use theme which support 7.1

I use this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brit.swiftdark.substratum

It does not theme parts of system which causes bootloop
[prjkt.io] bandisyah:
You can. Just find aopt file from substratum apk. Extract it, copy to system/bin and change the permission to 755. Reboot, install substratum and apply theme. Reboot again. If you get bootloop, just go to TWRP mount system, file manager and delete overlay folder
[prjkt.io] Mar-cel:
yes thanks, that theme works
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Yeah have a question about that,,,and it could be a TWRP issue,,,but I attempted to delete the overlay folder and/or use the rescue zip,,,and when I rebooted it still boot looped and upon going back into TWRP the same file I deleted in file manager was still there? I have a Google Pixel and TWRP is alpha so that may be it,,,but if you boot loop currently on the Pixel there is no recovering.
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
[MENTION=3605033]nicholaschum[/MENTION] I understand the reasons why there is a Warning when you open Substratum on a 7.1 Rom and have no issues with that - I'm just wondering if the wording could be changed - Right now the Warning is telling the user that they have "Dangerous Firmware" installed - This is implying that the Rom installed in in itself unsafe - Which is clearly not the case for the vast majority of of Custom Roms from Recognized Developers.

I think that a warning which indicates that the Firmware on your device may NOT be compatible and that NO support is currently offered UNTIL IF & WHEN Substratum Officially supports Android 7.1?

BTW - Substratum is running wonderfully on two of my devices running 7.1 ☺️

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] Surge1223:
Most people I assume know that firmware is not part of custom roms. If a user misinterpreted that, that's on them. And also I'm not so sure I agree about the vast majority of roms being safe, considering half of them are merging code they don't understand, just to keep users happy. Like every snapchat, safetynet, systemless etc. Sure a lot of rom devs are great and not like that.

Just my two cents
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Firmware as I understand it is normally considered to be the o/s that a device is running, be it the Stock Firmware from the Manufacturer or a Custom Rom.

https://code.tutsplus.com/articles/an-introduction-to-android-firmware--cms-26791

I did specify that the vast majority of Custom Roms by **Recognized Developers** who are quite likely to understand the codes that they are merging.

The warning is, for my 2 cents misleading, as it's stating that my device is "running on a dangerous Firmware" which is as far as I can tell is an assumption at best, and most likely because Substratum has detected that my device is running Android 7.1... Which I understand is not supported, and I'm fine with that.

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] Pkt_Lnt:
You need to ask the developer of your ROM. That is the only person who knows if they compiled with RRO or OMS support.
[prjkt.io] nathanchance:
Thread cleaned for obvious reasons ;)

The Flash

Forum Moderator
[prjkt.io] xerxes101:
Any soln ti use it on xperia z2 mm stock 6.0.1
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Wait! Google Pixel? Okay, you'll be our first tester since you guys have two partitions afaik. Are you on Substratum Legacy?

If so, where was the overlay found (directory excluding it's symlinks)?

As much as [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION]'s answer was amusing, I understand that the dialog could be worded differently, but it's meant to scare the user who is running the app on a ROM without the specified build.prop. The only thing I would change is the accidentally removed couple of words in the first sentence as rereading it made no sense to me.

fanx de flesh
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
have you tried switching compilers in Substratum's settings?
[prjkt.io] xerxes101:
Nothing works
[prjkt.io] reality1234:
I had a query that what exactly is the difference between oms 6 and oms 7 ?like nougat has oms 7 and marshmallow has oms 6?? Does that mean oms 6 is slower than oms 7?Also i have downloaded a rom that is based on marshmallow..its a November build so will it have oms 7 or oms 6?.rom name is exodus
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
There's no OMS6, there's OMS3 and OMS7

OMS3 is slow. OMS7 is what we are currently on
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Can you pass a logcat?
[prjkt.io] Surge1223:
It's usually referring to non volatile memory and as the image attached shows, it's read only. People who call the factory image firmware are just partially correct, it's like when people say "I'm wiping my device" which suggests they will nuke it, but in reality mean they are going to wipe data.

Hah being a recognized developer on xda makes no difference.

People shouldn't be idiots with their devices anyways
[prjkt.io] bigknowz:
Uninstall

Uninstalled with TiBu, now can't get themes to Enable. They install but stay disabled. N6P, Nitrogen OS, Substratum 490, Spectrum theme.
[prjkt.io] Mar-cel:
How did you themed Statusbar?
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
I used this Theme:

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] Mar-cel:
Thanks :)
[prjkt.io] christiangenin77:
Work on cm14 Nougat 7.1 galaxy note 4 n910f?
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] christiangenin77:
No problem with infinite bootloop? That theme applied?
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
As long as you get a theme that supports 7.1.x then it should work. Always be prepared. Have a backup or your ROM zip to flash if you run into problems.
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Swift Black Theme - Zero issues

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] christiangenin77:
Free themes for 7.1 ?
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Seriously - Almost everything Android is Free - Less than a couple of bucks for an Awesome Theme is too much for something that you're going to see everyday?

$1.99 is a token of support for the Devs - Well worth it I think! :)

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] christiangenin77:
Another theme apart from swif black?
[prjkt.io] Spannaa:
You could try looking in the PlayStore.

Domination is free if you're too tight to donate...
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
Spectrum is great if you want some color.
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
Spectrum says it only works up to 7.0 and has a warning NOT FOR 7.1. Are you saying it works on 7.1?
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
I'm on Nitrogen 7.1. Only apps that don't theme correctly on my 6p are Inbox and Contacts. I use Magpie for those two. Also use Statusbars Beta for status bar.
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
Thanks man. Good to know. I wanted to use the theme but I'm also on 7.1 (CM14.1) and didn't want to buy something I'd never use.
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
Here's some screenshots of various apps and my Total Launcher screens.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q788h5y3auv5qyz/AACtw4fDkDKb9YdiIJ55Kn7Ua?dl=0
[prjkt.io] weazie:
This might be a noob question, but I have to ask. :angel:

Will the old Layers themes still work on a ROM that supports Substratum? If I keep both Layers manager and Substratum app installed. I ask because I have bought a few Layers themes that might or might not be converted.

Cheers,

weazie
[prjkt.io] phpbb3:
I'm using Exodus, which comes with Layers Manager preinstalled. We haven't upgraded to OMS yet, but I understand there is a legacy mode to make it compatible with RRO ROMs. Do I have to uninstall the Layers Manager that's built-in to my ROM in order to install and use Substratum?
[prjkt.io] StormCell:
Hey Guy's,

Need a little help, please.

I installed Substratum. Downloaded Diety and Dominion. Compiled and Applied Diety...4 times...restarted UI...nothing. Absolutely nothing. Tried Dominion....nothing.

Running PN, Elemental Kernel, all latest and greatest, on Nexus 6P.

Substratum appears in Settings under Pure Nexus settings.

Appreciate the help.
[prjkt.io] Mr.MEX:
I added to Nitrogen OS, thanks!
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Delete all existing paths please
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
It is highly recommended to wipe all possible folders regarding overlays on your current build before trying Substratum
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Have you tried rebooting then applying it? Masquerade bugs out with new versions of SuperSU
[prjkt.io] StormCell:
Yes, rebooted 4 times. Nothing.
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
Can you try to delete the folders that your device uses (/system/overlay) and (/vendor/overlay)
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
I'll need more logs please when you use Substratum normally
[prjkt.io] Ja_som:
Thanks, that helped :good:
[prjkt.io] digitalbot:
I Been using layers on stock factory image rooted, OP states substratum will still work with factory image, I dont doubt it, although its not working and I feel am misisng settings in the substratum app
[prjkt.io] Kappa Lamda:
That did the trick! It worked! Thank you both.

Check posts above
[prjkt.io] sykopompos:
Settings the app or settings as in the fab.

In the fab, oms has different options where you can compile/update and have multiple themes installed at the same time and you tell Substratum which one that you want to do.

This can't be done on legacy so the options aren't there for it
[prjkt.io] StormCell:
Please tell me how to get the logs and I'll post them ASAP. I updated to the new version of Substratum and still nothing. It just won't work at all. Thanks.

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[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
First of all I don't even know what ROM you are running other than "PureNexus", and afaik [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION] did not update to the OMS branch officially yet, and "PureNexus Mod" by [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] has OMS...

If you have issues, it is best to contact your ROM developers first.
[prjkt.io] nathanchance:
One of the following applications:

Matlog: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pluscubed.matlog

SysLog: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tortel.syslog

Logcat Extreme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.lcex﻿
[prjkt.io] StormCell:
Ok, got the log, but have no idea how to post the zip file here. Sorry.

---------- Post added at 01:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 AM ----------

Ok, maybe this will work.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3b97Wqar2Mab2xERm9wUUxjQXM/view?usp=drivesdk
[prjkt.io] Mr.MEX:
BUGREPORT

1. After compiling overlays, overlays are not applicable and Substratum crash.

2. After applying overlays sometimes it does not automatically restart SystemUI.

3. After applying overlays and restart SystemUI substratum "thinks" and then crash.

4. Weeds with a choice of overlay.

P.S. Rom Nitrogen OS, all patches applyed.
[prjkt.io] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members, just a reminder before posting, read the OP, posts 2-3 and the FAQ post this may just help you, and may keep you from having to post/ask, but if you still need to ask, ensure you provide the detail information.

**Hint: Read the 3-5+ last pages to see if others have already posted or asked the same....
[prjkt.io] Ann.Vogelfang:
From what i understand and confirm, on non pixel devices, you should be fine applying themes on roms 7.1. At least i never have issues.

At least we can use the subs zip to clear overlays in case of bootloops ?
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
Very cool. I'll have to try it. Using swift dark now but I like to have options. I'm a try that window cleaner solution you got too. Haha.

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Agreed. I just know that for the short time CM was CM14 (7.0) themes like Domination worked well but once they went to 7.1, Dom was a bootloop. Pro tip: always have extra zips. :cool:
[prjkt.io] Ann.Vogelfang:
Indeed. Better be safe and keep our data safe lol Anyways, a couple of themes i use are 7.1 friendly so o case i flash any 7.1 rom i'm good ?
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
I am using Swift Black on my Pixel running 7.1 and it works beautifully,,,now if I can only find a transparent theme to work?? I have tried one of them and boot loop city as the rescue zips do not work. Also, I can never find the overlay files in TWRP file manager to delete out,,,,one time I found them I think and deleted however, on reboot they came back?
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
[MENTION=4158306]tcat007[/MENTION] dude I almost hate you (just kidding) for suggesting Spectrum. I bet I've rebooted 150 times in the last hour customizing the dang thing. Haha. It's awesome. I don't know to thank you or curse you. Really. Thanks.
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
Thank +Jeremy Beck he's the genius!
[prjkt.io] Ann.Vogelfang:
did you try this one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spada.transparent

Your rom is have legacy support or OMS? Because i can tell you in OMS roms, the sub rescue zip is working fine.
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Yeah I tried that one and it boot looped like it was cool LOL,,,,the rescue zip did not work,,,I believe I am on legacy.
[prjkt.io] Pkt_Lnt:
Pixel is different, check the first reply here.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69809892&postcount=962
[prjkt.io] Ann.Vogelfang:
Ok then. If you are on legacy, you should use legacy rescue zip. When it comes to themes, can help you ðŸ™
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
I tried both rescue zips and nothing worked unfortunately

---------- Post added at 11:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:44 PM ----------

Maybe I am not getting what your saying? I have no idea where the overlays are and I have checked up and down.
[prjkt.io] Random Username:
Im getting a message "Dangerous Firmware (November update N/N-MR1)". Should I wait for the next update or should I try applying a theme anyway?

LG G3 D855 running crDroid 1.4.
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
Search the Thread for "dangerous firmware" ;)

You will find some information about this message - Whatever you choose to do - Nandroid **First**!

Sent From My SM-N910W8 ??
[prjkt.io] mrhanky89:
Bootlooped....

Went into twrp can't find a rescue.zip. Checked in the apk can't find it either. Is that a generated file?

I can't find any overlay.xml either or vendor folder in the twrp file manager. I only applied the settings overlay from a certain theme though, could it be possible that I'm looking for another file to delete?

now i found a rescue.zip in the dropbox earlier in the thread, didnt work, saw that it was basically the same as the rescue.dat files in the apk, renamed the legacy one to a .zip, flashed that. still bootlooping
[prjkt.io] piperx:
Not sure what phone/version of Android your using

On my pixel, I do it this way, if you don't have a pixel, sorry, still posting, it might help others

In twrp mount system and vendor

Advanced - file manager

System - system - overlay

Delete all

Yes, rescue zip(s) don't work with pixel
[prjkt.io] mrhanky89:
Are there any other files in that folder? I have a system/vendor folder and a data/system folder. But i have not found anything with "overlay" I found some folders for the theme in data/system but i deleted those.

its a redmi note 3 pro
[prjkt.io] shaggyskunk:
On my Galaxy Note 4 (Android 7.1) there's a number of files in System/vendor/overlay

There's also two different rescue zips - Legacy and "regular" rescue zip depending on the Android version and Rom that you're running.

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Ã°Å¸â€¡Â¨Ã°Å¸â€¡Â¦
[prjkt.io] mrhanky89:
Thanks, but I couldn't find anything like that. I just reinstalled the rom. I'll just make sure to make a backup next time.
[prjkt.io] nicholaschum:
We need more information
[prjkt.io] mrhanky89:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro Snapdragon

Slimrom 7.1 Rooted

Latest CM14 Kernel

I did get the warning and I took the risk figuring out I could just flash the zip or take one of the steps like deleting the folder. It's fine though, I just reinstalled the rom.

Regarding the folder structure, when I went to mount in TWRP there was no Vendor folder. There was the option to mount, system, data, cust, and persist
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
So you have been able to delete the files in system system overlay and were able to recover from a boot loop on the pixel?
[prjkt.io] piperx:
Yes, a couple of times. I use a mixture of softkeys starter pack, spectrum, and swift dark.

Took me awhile to figure out the right combo that I liked/worked
[prjkt.io] reality1234:
Developers thanks for substratum...theming is so easy now and the themes are so beautiful:highfive:
[prjkt.io] jamiejames:
Wow that actually worked. Pixel xl. I appreciate all your info. [emoji41]
[prjkt.io] christiangenin77:
Which themes work with Android 7.1.1 nougat?
[prjkt.io] pkelly517:
I don't think Slim has OMS commits.
[prjkt.io] JaylanPHNX:
Not only does Slim not have OMS, but I believe something in their framework causes FC even with legacy overlays. :(
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Thanks brother,,,do you delete the whole folder or just all the contents inside of the folder and leave the folder,,,or does it matter LOL?
[prjkt.io] eduardozeassesme:
Try this

Is working for me on DP
[prjkt.io] piperx:
It doesn't matter, I have done both
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Cool,,,I have been wanting to try the transparent theme but every time I apply system and or framework overlays it boot loops so anything that keeps me from having to do a fresh install of everything is great news LOL.
[prjkt.io] Annunneo:
I tried the legacy rescue zip on my note 3 running cm14.1 based ROM and it didn't get me out of the boot loop.
[prjkt.io] bdwilk:
When you get into a bootloop all you have to do is dirty flash your ROM and your back to where you were. Depending on the ROM you'll have to flash Gapps again but that still doesn't affect the outcome. You're still back at before you activated the theme.
[prjkt.io] indian84:
Brace yourself.. Bootloop posts on 7.1.1 official release are coming.
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Yeah I wish I could,,,,, with TWRP in alpha most of the time when I restore,,,it wipes the system so I might as well do a complete reinstall.
[prjkt.io] skiely666:
So is that it rro/substratum legacy is broken by Google & can't be fixed in 7.1.1? Some conformation on this matter would be nice.

Thanks
[prjkt.io] indian84:
I am afraid the answer is yes. It is broken and results in a bootloop...
[prjkt.io] skiely666:
Yes I'm familiar with the bootloop. It'd be great to have some sort of official update or explanation from the Devs as to what is going on or why this has happened, it seems like us legacy users are less important than the oms rom users or if I've missed something, a link or point in the right direction would be much appreciated. I've used layers from the beginning & paid for many layers& substratum themes, I really love & appreciate the work that has been done.

Thanks very much..
[prjkt.io] nathanchance:
There is nothing we can do, we cannot modify stock once it is compiled. This is the problem patch: https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/commit/49d992fdb0107a2740f3610f2f52acca3e09307b

Basically, if framework is overlayed, the zygote cannot open it which causes the phone to bootloop trying to load over and over again (dumbed down explanation, I'm not to keen on the lower working of framework and such). The only way we can modify the platform is by recompiling it, which is why we have custom ROMs.

You have two choices and we only have control over #1.

1. Run a custom ROM with OMS.

2. Wait for Google to fix it (if they ever do).
[prjkt.io] kos25k:
hello dudes.new here.can someone tell me how to set a layer in moto x play marshmallow?do i have to make some manual modifications?i just choose a theme,switched the switch to dark theme,but theme went only in yellow.white stayed white as before.also after reboot it wioed cache.is that normal?my mogile makes muuuuuch time to buikd cache and is very annoying.thanks.

now i changed from orangekitten theme to another.but nonthing changes.neither restore default theme,neither flashable rescue zip.i apply dark theme but theme remains the previous the yellow!why?
[prjkt.io] Clark Joseph Kent:
Going to say this once, enough.

The back and forth stops now, consider this the only warning.
[prjkt.io] d2bx:
How to change icon on substratum? I use pixel launcher on 7.1 nougat but cant change icon.
[prjkt.io] Won't be druv:
I don't think you can if you are on stock launcher. Doubtless someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
[prjkt.io] maheshj7:
I am using substratum theme on lenovo a7000 for the ROM "AOSP 7.1.1" .

I am not able to apply the theme due to error

Please help.. _/\_
[prjkt.io] tcat007:
Substratum does not support 7.1.1 yet. Only one or two themes partially work. Swift Black and Dark.
[prjkt.io] Archangel:
Yes sir I just updated to 7.1.1 on my pixel and Swift dark looks awesome!
[prjkt.io] TVwithParents:
Swift Black on my stock 7.1.1 is not working. First of, I get some kind of a message about legacy and that I am using it on some kind of a dangerous firmware. I am using stock and am using a Nexus 6p. I don't know but applying Swift Black is not yielding me anything. How exactly did you guys get to apply Swift Black on stock 7.1.1?