yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jrjordao:
Hi Andi

Has the status-/notificationbar issue been addressed in the new (20190512) release?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Should be fixed. Using lower res background images now.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Parduz:
I'm sorry if my questions seems OT, imho it is not ...

I run a Cm13-20160222-2119-unofficial-p3100 on my tab, and i was happy of it until i started to use a SD card for ebook, and discovered that the apps have no full permissions to the SD card (which even has a weird name).

By googling seems to me that it's a problem of the version of android, not of the CM13, but i'm not so sure.

So my "not-OT" question is:

do this ROM have the same issues? is it "better" (read: light on that poor device) than the CM13? there's some serious bug/thing-that-does-not-work i should be aware before choosing to pick this one?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Make a backup of your current ROM and try out if it fits your needs.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Parduz:
Do this means that there's no known answers to that question?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
It'll have the same issue, or better call it your app doesn't support new Android versions properly (it I remember correctly sdcard handling changed on Android 5). You might want to stick to an Android 4 ROM.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Apcoolboy:
Hey Andi, as you are the last stop solution for tab 2. I want to ask one question, is there any way that I can tweak my display colors (kcal) on tab 2? I am on your SlimKat and its very smooth. If it is possible on slimkat then I would not upgrade my android version. Although, I am flexible to try any other ROM/Kernel combination, I'm using my tab for just watching movies hence need color calibrated. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Please don't spam every thread with kcal request.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] djhuzi:
Sorry but on the official site, there aren't link for download stable 6.0.1 for p5100... an issue of website? Thank you

**edit: here the link http://andi34.github.io/roms_tab2_slim.html*
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] djhuzi:
there is a working kernel overclock for that rom?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Andi46:
yes, over there... https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79307277&postcount=205 there the first one...
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Neoguto:
After I've flashed this rom, when I choose to reboot to system, TWRP shows me a message that looks like my device isn't rooted, the I choose to install supersu, but it stucked on that screen for more than 10 minutes and nothing happens!

Can I reboot the tablet manually??

EDIT: I've discovered that the rom are not installed, even after the process, the TWRP shows me there's no OS installed!

So, why these custom roms to P5100 are so small??

I've turn back to Stock 4.2.2, but I want to update the android version at once to lollipop!

What can I do??
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Why they are so small?

Because they don't include Gapps for legal reasons, besides that there's no OEM Bloatware included.

Make sure using an up to date TWRP.

http://andi34.github.io/recoveries_tab2.html

Don't use SuperSu from TWRP if it asks, it's removed from latest builds because it's outdated.

All you need to know about flashing and rooting:

http://andi34.github.io/faq.html
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Neoguto:
Hmm, OK!

Do you recommend to install TWRP via Odin with a MD5 file?

So, I've discovered that message was because the rom isn't installed at all.

I think it happens cause I've used a old TWRP (downloaded directly from TWRP from playstore).

Thanks again!

I'm gonna try again. :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:

EDIT: It's workiiiiiing! :victory::victory::victory::victory:

Still on the first boot (optimizing google apps) but looks like it's work!

I've take this tablet from my son's teacher to update the android version to make some apps to help autistic people to work (they work olny on Lollipop or newer) and i'am really happy 'cause she can do that now!

It makes a lot of help to autistic children like my son THANKS A LOT Andi!! :highfive: :highfive:
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] tracyiwen:
how to enable multi window

I followed the instruction to modify the build.prop file. but I could not find the enable multi window option in the developer setting after reboot. Is the feature only available in android nougat?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] EngineerMind:
How to do screenshots?

I'm using Slim6.0.1 - 2.24 20190729-1247

Does anyone know how to do screenshots with this ROM?

There is no option on the pop-up power menu, and pressing power + vol down or up doesn't do it.

So how can I take a screen shot with this rom - isn't there any built-in feature to do this?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] pritzzy:
Power and volume down works. Try the new build
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] EngineerMind:
Hey Pritzzy,

Thank you for taking the time to reply :)

I'll give it a shot!
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] pritzzy:
No problem! :)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] ahmatamrin:
I have to say that the 2020 build is snappy and quite stable on itself. Without gapps , microg and so on, im on unroot anyway.

However, the extra juice from anykernel oc-uv from 11-04-2019 does give it a little bit of kick.

Use the tab for online web reading and i say that, the extra juice is really crucial, giving a smoother experience than having to wait 1 or 2 sec for the webpage to load.

Im not a fan of overclocking but in this case, for those that prefer a smooth experience, u guys should consider to try it, battery life isnt affected much anyway, from 15 hours consumption to 11-12 hours only, quite good.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] pritzzy:
Can you share a link?

And how to flash the kernel without rooting?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] PufferDude:
How is this compared to Omni Rom 6?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] PufferDude:
I will try the kernel+Slim6/Omni Rom 6.

Can you rate the experience out of 10?

Install the kernel after installing the Rom right?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] bojan.1995:
Please send me link for latest version.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Mighty:
OpenSource Development by Android-Andi @ XDA

OpenSource Development by Android-Andi

andi34.github.io
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Byrkoet:
Download keeps failing, any chance anyone can put latest slim6 or 7 on gdrive or mega?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] juansan10:
Deleted
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] LR7875:
As that may help noobs, I am bumping this thread as to make the most stable rom be the top of the list.

Is this acceptable? thanks
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] :
The most stable android 6 rom is RR rom. If you want most stable slim rom, it's slim kat (4.4 kitkat)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] LR7875:
Ok I will bump the RR ROM thanks for the info

No need reply
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] EarlWer:
I have a Tab 2 7.0" GT-P3113. Did a factory reset. It's running Android 4.2.2

I want to use it with a newer browser to capture signatures using a finger on the touchscreen.

Obviously, nothing currently works as the browser is outdated, etc...

Can I root it and get an updated browser that can handle https ?

This would be my first time rooting an Android device ;-)

Just want to know if I should go ahead or scrap the Tab 2 ?

thanks
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] C03LH00:
give a error :("

the rom is the slimroms "Slim-espresso3g-6.0.1.alpha.0.9-WEEKLY-20160812-1310.zip" and the gapps "gapps-601-base-20160803-1-signed"

i Wipe data, cache, and dalvik, flash rom, flash gapps and when give me a error
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] hollandais:
Do you have one of the latest recoveries? 3.0.2.x...

Envoyé de mon Galaxy Tab 2 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] slayer101234:
what error you got? and flash like this wipe system, cache, davlik cache, data and then flash rom after rom flashing is done flash gapps without wiping anything after gapps is done wipe data, cache, dalivk cache and then reboot and wait some minutes
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
did you wipe system?? if not, you should do too.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] hollandais:
Tell us from which ROM you came and the recovery you use... Otherwise we can't help you.

And finally take a real look on Andi's page. Everything we're telling you you can find is there...

Envoyé de mon Galaxy Tab 2 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] C03LH00:
i can't do it , i create a new thread with my problem thanks and sorry for off topic
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jdm521:
I'm using pico gapps from opengapps.org without any issue.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] daitalos:
If you get error 7 or 6

Or aborted ....Update your recovery....you did format data in flash? & don't wipe Internal storage.....You have this recovery? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424954614 (tar.md5) _ https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424954613 (zip)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] C03LH00:
how to change de rom manager to TWRP? the tab don't have rom to install this :(

EDIT: can i use this? h**p://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-twrp/
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Use odin.

Flashable twrp on my github userpage (see below).

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Carrati:
This is by far the best ROM i have ever used! Smooth and fast!!! Installed with twrp 2.8.7 and opengapps micro.

The only bug i found is the sound, its totally broken on that famous racing game from EA (stuttering sound). The gameplay is smooth but the sound not.

Is there a fix for that? :confused::confused:

P.s. candy ROM has this bug too.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
its a known bug...no fix for now
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Carrati:
Just found this [MENTION=220904]andi[/MENTION] github:

Audio stuttering on some games:

To fix it you will have to use a root explorer and delete system/etc/permissions/android.hardware.audio.low_latency.xml (well, this isn't a proper fix but a good workaround until it is fixed properly).

Will try that and post the results.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
yeah right but this workaround didnt fix games like real racing 3
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Carrati:
Yes i still get the stuttering sound... ROM is perfect in every other aspect.:good::highfive:
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] C03LH00:
hey guys, i got it with the TWRP, thanks for your help :D
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jdm521:
Latest version 0.10 is the best one so far.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] eson07:
Hi, I'm running the SlimKat Version of this Android OS. Got one problem though, this started a few days ago, it frequently reboots every time I open the tablet, when unlocked, it just reboots after a few seconds. Then this repeats on a loop. I am running the latest TWRP, when I try to clear the System, Cache, Dalvik, Data and then factory reset to install a new rom, it seems like it restores on it's current state where it is looping on reboot. I tried to flash the stock rom using Odin, but it gives a fail write error on system.img. Any ROM I try to install would not be installed, it's like being deep freeze, to return on a specific state. I was able to install other roms like CM13, SlimLP, Slim6 before installing the SlimKat version. Any thoughts about it? Even when I push some roms using adb, when I reboot the tablet, the file is gone or deleted.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jeremiese:
I flashed dirty from Alpha 0.6 to Alpha 0.10

Now Up and running Alpha 0.10 weekly

Slim6 Getting smoother with each update

Thank you Andi for the breath you keep giving to our tab 2

The only issue I encountered in Alpha 0.6 and Alpha 0.10 are

- Gallery stops unfortunately when I try to mark pictures

- Preferred network type is on GSM/WCDMA preferred ,it cannot be changed to WCDMA only or others.

Thanks Andi
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] CygnusHyoga:
- clear data gallery

- change it from *#*#4636#*#*
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jeremiese:
Cleared gallery data

But it still stops unfortunately when I try to mark

Dialed the code

I could only change to UNKNOWN

GSM/WCDMA preferred means auto I guess (by auto I mean 2g/3g) { someone correct me if am wrong}

I can't change it to WCDMA only or GSM only

Thanks anyway
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] CygnusHyoga:
Well, no idea :D

Currently I used cm13 for my espresso3g :D

Maybe its bug from rom, its still alpha by the way :D
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jeremiese:
I noticed something

After the dirty flash and first reboot

Tab was up and was running smoothly

Then after some while of running I decided to reboot the tab

Lo and behold the tab became slow

My Facebook app would take ages to respond and it seem to affect other apps

So I decided to delete the Facebook app and Messenger app

After that I did a reboot

Now the tab is back to its performance

Smooth as milk

Thanks Andi and Slimroms

?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] hollandais:
This is known, and not a bug. It's a problem of not enough memory. You can search on play store for Facebook light. There are some apps. I've tested some in the past,they are OK, not as the original one but working and lighter...

Envoyé de mon Galaxy Tab 2 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jeremiese:
Using the default browser for Facebook

Am okay with it

Until I get a tab with a higher RAM;)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Astro Noid:
Dear Mr [MENTION=5153662]Android-Andi[/MENTION]

how about making slim6-es3g/wi with system(folder) version cz it has larger /system partition~1.35gb instead system(dat)~0.95gb and pls mirror it to afh cz slimroms.org was unable to enter(sometimes), ty.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
I don't mirror it. And no, we don't go back to old times (dat vs folder). Ty

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] gianlen:
I have noticed an issue related to 3g finding network (you can't choose it manually).

As previously reported by someone, 2g/3g preferred network type is not selectable.

Tried on my p5100
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] chopiman:
After loading this ROM I noticed I was missing super user has anyone else found this or was it a bad flash. Either way loaded a superuser and rebooted which caused a bootloop not sure of my mistake but a clean wipe and reloaded the ROM works fine but no super user.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Enable root in dev options

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] gianlen:
I enabled root in developer options.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] jeremiese:
Reboot your device if your network switches to 2g,

That's the way I go back to 3g
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Oldnobby:
The only thing that doesn't work for me is the audio fx again :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] vientito:
Could someone confirm if I can install OpenAPPS for ARMv7 on this ROM? According to their website ARMv7 will require a kind of patch on the ROM to allow APK v2 signature.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] gianlen:
I use opengapps armv7 on my p5100.

Installed according Andi suggestions.

---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------

It seems that you are considering the android 7 version of opengapps. Slim6 is android 6 MM
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] daitalos:
ARM 6 mini is enough package

No needed bigger package...Or better,you can use gapps 601 base by deltadroid here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424951861 (7 there does not mean ARM7.... 7 is android nugat :)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] josfr4ncisco:
On the Slim6 1.0's changelog, it seems like our device is running on weeklies, even when most devices got stable builds. What's the difference between the weeklies and the stable builds?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Because I didn't had time to test the stable build before release and because of preferred network bug on espresso3g.

Only the tag (stable vs weekly), source is the same.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] josfr4ncisco:
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't here to complain about only us not getting stables (I would use weeklies anyways), I was just wondering if there was any difference. Sorry if I didn't ask correctly.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
All good, that's why i explained it.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] daitalos:
Very nice work Andi

And very good kernel !
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] AnonVendetta:
[MENTION=5153662]Android-Andi[/MENTION]: I'm try to get Xposed Framework working with Slim6. The ROM boots fine without it, but if I install Xposed my device just gets stuck when booting. I've also had this issue with your builds of CM13 and OmniROM (MM/6.x). I have a P3113, which is nearly identical to the P3110 in terms of hardware and can use the same ROMs. Is there any way to get this working?

Thanks!

Edit: It's worth mentioning that Xposed works fine on all your KitKat/Lollipop variants I've tried, but I want to use the latest Android version.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] ddkhera:
Is f2fs supported?

In case of f2fs is it impossible to manually fstrim -v ? getting error not a typewriter because it automatically trims?...
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
F2fs is supported, trim not possibel because MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled for security reasons.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] ddkhera:
But the system does automatically perform fstrim?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
It tries but it can't.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] vientito:
Today i finally installed the latest build. I have come upon a problem. My bluetooth headphone used to function well under sip application in term of two way communication but after the upgrade it does not hear or pass out at all. I am able to use it to listen only to youtube or music application. Under the stock rom i never experienced such issue at all. I have checked setting - both phone and media are checked.

Log as attachment. As soon as I fired up csipsimple and turned on the bluetooth switch in the application I can hear no ringing at all at my connected headphone. I stopped the logcat right at that moment. This behaviour also happens with other two-way communication software, so I am pretty sure it has something to do with bluetooth stack area.

I have also tried resetting pairing of the bluetooth headphone and repairing it but to no avail. Same behaviour.

On GT P5110 with Slim-6.0.1 build 1.1 from 2016-09-02

Exactly same problem happens as well wth SlimKat, SlimLP, Cyanogenmod CM13. I could only start to use bluetooth headphone again for phone purpose once I restored my stock ROM of 4.1.2
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] DHeffernan:
Can you over clock using this ROM like slim ROM 4.2.2 and using stweaks?
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
No. And won't be added.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] DHeffernan:
Understood. What about your other ROMs do they support it past 4.2.2? Thanks
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
Not without custom kernel, do some research, this is Slim6 development thread.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] blehz:
Is there any way to completely remove superuser?

I am trying to run the TV app of my ISP (Yelo Play) but it complains about a rooted device. It uses Microsoft PlayReady DRM. When reading some threads I also find that Netflix uses this.

I edited build.prop to replace anything with test-keys by release-keys and remove all 'debug' words.

I tried installing SuperSU, full unroot but I still see the root option in the developer options. Although it doesn't work anymore.

I'm getting lost here and might probably have to give up on it unless you got an idea.

Also I am trying to install SuperSU via TWRP but it doesn't show up once rebooted. Only via Play it installs.

Thanks for any help or ideas!
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
maybe try this http://xdaforums.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] slayer101234:
try disabling root access in developer options

---------- Post added at 08:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 PM ----------

su hide will only work with super su not with slim rom' s superuser i think
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] blehz:
Thanks for the suggestions.

I want to get rid of it completely. Disabling it in developer options is not enough.

I tried suhide with SuperSU but somehow SuperSU is not visible after reboot, as if it is not installed.

When I installed the stock 4.2.2 Samsung rom I was able to install SuperSU, which the app detected. After doing the full unroot in SuperSU the app worked again, not detecting root (TWRP still installed).

I'm wondering if PlayReady DRM is actually supported in slimroms. Because the DRM Info apps says it isn't. Although that might be because of root.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] slayer101234:
try root cloak xposed module u can hide root from apps and u cant completely remove root in slim roms
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
you also can do the "hard way".

make a backup of your current system with twrp

after that reboot into your system (with root access) and rename the "su" file in system/xbin folder with a root file manager like ES. rename it in whatever you want.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] smart-t78:
after some "googling" about yelo play, it seems that root cloak doesn't help in this case.
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] slayer101234:
ok :)
[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] Android-Andi:
https://plus.google.com/114141937902409536137/posts/7nCZR2HBvjw

Read the answers. Jfyi.

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[Galaxy Tab 2 (Unified 7" + 10.1") Android Developm] slayer101234:
is this good?