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[Galaxy Tab S General] lmacmil:
I am a year older than I was when the thread started.

My wife is the Tab S user and she can't tell a Lollipop from a Marshmallow! ?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Yaya444:
I sure can tell the difference between lollipop and marshmallow. In my humble opinion, lollipop is a laggy disaster.

After trying almost all custom Roms here,

I'm still nibbling on KitKat 4.4.2 IronRom. I really

think it's one the smoothest and most full featured

Roms available.

Do you guys still thinks there's a possibility to get mm?
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
I have less doubt about getting MM now than I did a month ago. I think there's still a possibility for MM until we reach the end of this year or Sammy says for a fact that they aren't releasing it for us. Whichever comes first...I'd prefer the latter if we are in fact not getting it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Yaya444:
If it wasn't for the developers of custom Roms and XDA forum, this tablet would have been in the garbage long ago. The original Sammy rom that came with this tablet ran like a turtle.
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
KitKat was not that bad. From my, and other's, experience; KK was arguably better than LP. That being said; this tablet has been a fragmented experience for all of us!
[Galaxy Tab S General] Yaya444:
Google keeps crippling the O.S with every newer version. Xposed also has less functional stuff because of this so it seems. Perhaps Android 4 and IOS 5 where the best. What do guys think?

If it wasn't for the gorgeous AMOLED screen, I would have never touched this tablet.

Sorry for hijacking the thread. Maybe we should start a new one.��
[Galaxy Tab S General] radwaste:
the good news if it comes true.
[Galaxy Tab S General] lmacmil:
Isn't it typical for the manufacturers to announce what products will be updated to the latest OS? The products that don't get mentioned are assumed to be EOL. Has there ever been an announcement with a list of older products that would not get OS updates?

I am hoping for MM too but I haven't read anything official that leads me to believe Samsung is actually planning MM on the Tab S series.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
I think i read in an earlier post and S1 owner contacted Samsung support and was told the 8.4" was getting MM, this was a couple of weeks ago, if this is true i dont know.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ThE_SoUrCe:
I'm a big-screen device addicionado and have been using a tablet since it dawned from the original Galaxy Tab, to the 1st SAMOLED 7.7 tablet and the Tab S - was about to upgrade to Tab S 2 but having a lesser display, a slightly improved core, no camera flash and 4:3 aspect ratio killed it for me.

was able to try out the note 7 and i fell in love, never I have imagined that i'll be going below 7 inch again.

but then again, Tab S 3 might be announced in September so.. .. yeah...

wishlist for a perfect tab (my taste preference)

-same form factor as tab S 8.4 (with lesser top and bottom bezel)

-up to date innards, SD820/821 and/or exynos equivalent

-expandable storage

-S7/note7 camera (yes I use it as a camera form time to time and it take great photos)

-5k mAh battery with quick charge/wireless charging

-IP68 rating!

-SPEN support

lol
[Galaxy Tab S General] :
it here already ? wtf how much longer they going torture us ??????
[Galaxy Tab S General] Eddie Hicks:
That would be the perfect tab except I would like it in 10". My 2 year old 10.5 is still working great and doing everything I use it for without any issues so I'll stick with it awhile longer. I know at some point the battery will stop holding a charge. That's when I'll start looking for something new.
[Galaxy Tab S General] :
Noooooooooo dont get rid of it Eddie . I've got an old asus tablet i run off a battery bank since the internal batteries virtually dead . Plenty of external batteries around , although if you do get one be careful as a lot of them have nowhere near the capacity they state on the box . I've had this one over a year and i'd highly recommend it , although it is a bit more expensive than most .

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-PB10400-Portable-Smartphone-Flashlightor/dp/B00FZVYHOO

And still waiting for MM :D
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Just replace the battery in Eddie? buy a spare off ebay, buy tools as well, simple guide on youtube, I have already bought my new battery and tools, but my original battery is still strong, so the replacements is in the refrigerator chilling out.

My Kit

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
Well, the Tab S3 has been officially announced and is set for a debut next month. *Tapping foot* Where's my damned Marshmallow?!
[Galaxy Tab S General] bibihub:
Hi ! Are you 100% sure it is a real Samsung battery ? Could you tell us which supplier you bought it from ? I don't see any reason for me to buy another tablet in the coming years except if I break it. But I'll surely need a new battery someday.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
I bought mine from an UK eBay seller, if it`s genuine i do not know until i use it, though 1 review says it`s genuine, eBay item number: 141991614986

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] thompson.jjp:
Thanks for this. It looks to be a genuine Samsung battery, and is a bargain, so I'll give it a go!
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Let us know how the replacement goes and if the battery`s are any good. :D

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Eddie Hicks:
Thanks John & Mero
[Galaxy Tab S General] lmacmil:
To me, this announcement makes it even less likely the Tab S will get MM. It's now two generations old. Not updating the Tab S will entice some owners to upgrade to a Tab S3 at the same time pissing off Tab S owners who don't want to. Samsung is betting there will be more of the former than the latter.
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
From what few details that are known about the Tab S3; it isn't even an upgrade to the S2.
[Galaxy Tab S General] lmacmil:
It may not be but lots of unsophisticated users won't know that and will assume an S3 must be better than an S2. The entire mobile device business model is based on persuading users they need to upgrade their phone or tablet every couple of years.
[Galaxy Tab S General] :
If those specs are true i'll stick with my tab s ..

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/08/galaxy-tab-s3-unveiled-ifa/
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Specs must be wrong, little difference from the S2, If this is correct i will stick with my S1.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
The progress of the Tab S series is slow. But I can't totally blame "the greedy Samsung" for it. It is a common knowledge by now that the tablet market has pretty much collapsed. The demand is weak, and the sales are not very high. As a result, we see very little activity in the tablet space. The Apple hardware is certainly very good, but you pay 500-800USD for their premium tablet, while the big-screen Android tablet prices start under 400USD. A whole lot of companies update their tablets every couple of years. For example, the Nvidia tablet is basically the same shield tablet they presented in 2014. There is no new replacement for the 2014 Nexus 9. Samsung on the other hand does update its Tab S tablets every summer, but the updates are sorta-kinda "lukewarm". The screen, the design, and the build are good, while the internal specs are somewhat poor.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mightywhites29111971:
Agree with the point about the tablet market being slow, so why bother making an S3 in the first place? They didn't support this device and maybe just maybe if they stopped building devices they can't support and concentrate on making fewer phones/tablets that have more after-sales support they will keep the customers they have and may attract more.
[Galaxy Tab S General] flhthemi:
Why do you figure the tablet market is falling off? Maybe people are starting to adopt the 2 in 1 laptops with 10-12" screens? Maybe they're tired of Android and not one really 100% working web browser? Maybe buggy versions of Android that the manufacturer's have introduced with their ROMs and bloatware?

Just trying to figure it out cause it DOES seem to be declining to me too...I've no stats to quote but it just doesn't feel good when no one seems to be coming up with the next better than ever version.
[Galaxy Tab S General] TheGoD:
Those specs get rumored for some months now but they are nonsense. Those are the specs of the 2016 refresh of the Tab S2, which is out for weeks already. That a lot of sites still publish that nonsense is just proof of how little the media cares about tablets and the general quality of tech journalism.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Diogenes5:
I'll stick to my tab S just for the 16:10 aspect ratio alone. Does anyone actually do work on a tab s2? A 4:3 ratio is terrible for media consumption.

Yes. They were awesome when they were first starting out. The galaxy note 10.1 tablets were great and the 12.2 tablet was nice too. They had the first smooth SOC's out there for Android. The transformer pro and others were sluggish and had dumb engineering errors like cripplingly slow emmc.

But now that they've seen what sales are like, they've cancelled like half their models. The note line was merged with the Tab A and isn't called note anymore. The note 12.2 successor is nowhere to be found. They also never spent much on R&D, using the exact SOC from their phones; even phones that were 1 generation old. Apple uses more higher end product still in their ipads versus their iphone.

Because 95% of people who buy tablets don't use them to do anything useful or demanding. They use them to watch youtube videos and play hearthstone. You don't need a new tablet to do that. You can simply buy even an older ipad 2 and get what you need. All of us mostly have no reason to upgrade from a tab S. It has AC wifi that can stream 20mbps 1080p MKV's and the power to decode them. That's literally the most demanding thing I ask the tablet to do and it does the job fine. It also has better battery life and a more useful aspect ratio than the S2.

I hope this is true, but if and when Marshmallow comes out it won't matter. My note 4 was getting a little sluggish but after Marshmallow it's smooth as silk. I'm hoping for the same for the tab S.
[Galaxy Tab S General] thompson.jjp:
UPDATE: the battery looks genuine - it is identical to the existing one. In fact, I managed to mix them up at first and reinstall the old battery!

I was a bit over zealous with taking the tablet apart, however, and managed to crack the screen, so that's my next repair project... Not the most successful of operations. :eek:

It's too soon to tell whether the battery life is significantly better though.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Cracked the screen, :crying: Hopefully you can find a replacement that`s not too expensive.

But the battery`s look genuine, that sounds good, but a bit of an anticlimax now.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] thompson.jjp:
I found a replacement screen already from a UK company for about £15. The hard part will be to unbond the broken screen from the OLED panel, but it should be another interesting project!
[Galaxy Tab S General] suburbadroid:
sorry to hear you broke your screen, make sure you buy a heat gun for the removal of old one. DO NOT attempt it with a hair dryer
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
I read a whole lot of tech news sites, each one of them if not a daily then at least on a weekly basis, and every article I have seen so far on the subject of tablet adoption has been claiming that tablet sales are very weak and even falling. Why is this happening? I don't know. Considering that you can buy today the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet for just 200USD, I would personally recommend everyone to get one.

Also, the 2 in 1 notebooks are certainly not tablets. Even the Microsoft Surface "tablets" are not tablets. They're just ultrabooks with a detachable keyboard, so let's not confuse 2-in-1 notebooks with tablets. Most people who buy the Surface use it as an ultrabook, rather than a tablet. The Surface is actually a very crappy tablet (and also a crappy notebook, considering devices like Lenovo Yoga series). Just compare it with a Tab S. It's too heavy and too thick to be a tablet. Windows still sucks as a tablet OS.
[Galaxy Tab S General] flhthemi:
Ok first before I say anything, I'm not being critical and intend no offense by what I'm going to say next.

I have had a Asus TF700 and a S10.5. Several Android phones and some TV Android based boxes (Ugoos UT2 and Tronsmart). NOT one of them can successfully browse the internet with out a major issue within any browser I use. Each browser presents a different issue as well as the possibility of exhibiting the same issue as other browsers. Though browsing the internet is not all I do it IS something I do often and when I can't even post a REPLY to a friends Facebook comment using an Android device, it pretty much makes it not worth my time to even pick it up to try. I just walk over to the PC and do what I have to do without nearly as many issues. One thing I can do for sure is post a comment to a comment without the damn cursor all of a sudden leaving the text box I'm starting to type in to end up on the address/search bar of the browser! Dolphon and Boat for Tablet BOTH exhibit this trait! This is just the small part of the issues I have. My Asus TF700 wasn't even a usable device for anything UNTIL timduru did his amazing KatKiss MM ROM and now the TF700 is/or may be better than my Samsung! So I have been slowly replacing my Android based TV equipment with Zotac Zboxes and Windows 10. I'm having far less issues watching things via Kodi (XBMC) on this equipment than on the Ugoos and Tronsmart devices. No big issues on the tablets but then I don't want them for the TVs. So I'm NOT confusing 2 in 1 ones with tablets. I just think maybe they are being accepted in the place of the tablets by at least some frustrated tablet owners as my self. Windows has come a long way as a tablet OS but it has a longer way to go, just my thought. It's also very sad that the manufactures, like Samsung, totally FAIL when it comes to updates to the Android OS. MM has been about for over a year, we may never see it. In the past year I can't count how many times Windows has been updated and you don't have to wait for Samsung, AT&T or any other cellular provider to get it done.

So as frustrated as I am, particularly by Android tablets, I am considering a 2 in 1 or a Windows based tablet like a Lenovo.

These are my opinions and issues and if you feel insulted then I'm sorry as that is not my intention, but feel free to do your thing. ;)
[Galaxy Tab S General] lmacmil:
Interesting. I browse the Internet on Android tablets and phones often and rarely have an issue. Is it as pleasant as using a Windows PC? No. But it's very usable in my opinion.
[Galaxy Tab S General] aegeuss:
I use my tablet to read pdf documents and especially magazines over Kindle app with this beautiful 16:9 amoled screen. I don't have an alternative for this purpose. So it's not useful only for multimedia.

Regards.

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[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
What`s your battery life life, oled display`s use a lot of power when they show white/bright images like documents/webpages , an lcd display uses the same amount of power no matter what it shows on the screen.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
Something tells me that can't be trusted. I have no proof; just a feeling.
[Galaxy Tab S General] :
Where is it ?!?!?!

W H E R E I S T H E U P D A T E ???

W E _____ W A N T _____ U P D A T E
[Galaxy Tab S General] aegeuss:
I left looking at battery stats for this tablet long ago; because I can leave it aside for a few days without the battery running down and can easily read a mag or book over Kindle or Play Books without wasting much battery. I don't remember putting it to charge in the middle of reading something. A small note; I've been using native Marshmellow rom in Android section with an extra microsd card as adaptable storage without much problem. I also have bought two years ago an original bluetooth keyboard for this tablet which makes it a small computer for me when I need especially during small trips.

I know that many users prefer this tablet for video watching over Youtube and playing games; believe me it's much more usable to work on Google docs, reading pdf's, replying mails etc. especially with it's native keyboard. I know many people who put tablets aside after some time; I'm not one of them; I'm still using this device for productivity purposes and I will not let it go for some time.

edit: This is the keyboard I'm talking about: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mo...keyboard-case-titanium-bronze-ej-ct800uaeguj/
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Samsung likely regrets making the Tab S1 so good, it`s so called replacements pail in comparison, if we are going to get MM.

On the cell version, the mobile providers should have had MM beta for testing long ago, and i suspect we would have had leaks from them about MM release.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] stopa10:
Let's face it: the further we go, the less likely that we get the update...

I suggest that all of you who are interested in keeping this tab up to date with Android updates have a look at the AOSP thread by [MENTION=2371134]Schischu[/MENTION]: the ROM is very functional at this point, and Android N is coming... ?
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
In some respects android browsers are preferable to Windows desktop versions.

The ease at which text can be formatted and any part of the page zoomed in by simply pinching makes it better to use for me.

Also I have no real issues using the stock browser on any of my devices.
[Galaxy Tab S General] :
where is dat update ????? when it coming ????? i cannot believe samsung does this kind of torture to us .
[Galaxy Tab S General] sparkie6point0:
I'm hoping for it but I'm not holding my breath about it. Besides, I'm currently now running Lollipop and I'm going to have to go back to Kitkat if I want to root this thing. Since I switched carriers, it'll probably be the only way my S-T807V is going to run MM.
[Galaxy Tab S General] gl1tchy:
No update being reported

Unfortunately Android Authority is also reporting this (2 hours ago) http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-not-getting-android-6-0-marshmallow-711560/

I have the Tab S 8.4 and it would make me really really happy to get an MM update on this. However, don't believe that Samsung would ever do this. Samsung doesn't consistently support software and it probably never will. My Tab S was the 3rd samsung device that I allowed myself to be fooled on. (2 phones, 1 tablet) No more. They make very attractive hardware and then don't support it and they never will.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Samsung wants you to buy their shiny new Tab S3 when it`s released, if we got MM, you might put of buying a new tab for a year or two, it`s all about money.

Time for me to look at the "AOSP thread by [MENTION=2371134]Schischu[/MENTION]: the ROM" as mentioned above if i want to get MM anytime this side of the millennium, be aware 5ghz wifi is supposedly iffy as some people have said, though i only use 2.4ghz i save 5ghz for my Windows Notebook.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] anees02:
Shame on Samsung.

When I purchased my Galaxy tab S 10.5 at that time Samsung announced a new line of their tablets with amazing AMOLED display.

I thought that Samsung would take care of the new line.

But now a lot of users are depressed.

It will be the last tablet I buy from Samsung.

If this report is true then this thread might be deleted.
[Galaxy Tab S General] andy_d0:
I already switched to a Nexus phone because of this update nonsense by Samsung. Not sure what I would buy if I were to ever switch from the Tab S since I still want a memory card but this will definitely be the last Samsung tablet I buy. Like some of you, will check AOSP
[Galaxy Tab S General] 3DSammy:
I run this AOSP MM ROM on my T800 and 5ghz has zero problems with my ASUS router. As mentioned in the thread you need to set your router's country code to match where you are and the 5ghz channel number range (see forum as I'm away from home right now). Since I made those changes 5ghz is solid. The latest build quality has made the Samsung announcement meaningless.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Well i installed the "AOSP MM Rom by Schischu" and all seems fine, though i have yet to find what good about MM, Also i prefer the Samsung launcher though it`s nice to be rid of all the bloated apps, So i would still prefer an official Samsung MM update.

Ohh yeah, I combined the internal 16gb and my 128gb microsd, though i got a low speed warning, strange it`s an 128gb Samsung EVO+

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] TranceChaos:
You might have the Orange colored 128gb Samsung EVO+. The newer ones are red colored with a black stripe and do 80MB/s read, 20MB/s write

Edit: whoops nevermind, the old ones were called just EVO, newer ones are EVO+
[Galaxy Tab S General] Eddie Hicks:
This just out on Sammobile. http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/22...ion-galaxy-tab-s-despite-its-previous-claims/
[Galaxy Tab S General] suburbadroid:
Yesssssssss my hopes are back
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Hope rekindled :good:

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] GoldExperience:
Just waiting for the next article: "Galaxy Tab S won't receive Marshmallow after all".

Anyway, if we get a stable Nougat rom I will never use Touchwiz on my tab again. Split screen ftw.
[Galaxy Tab S General] demon-knight:
they say it will now http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/22...e-original-galaxy-tab-s-will-get-marshmallow/

until tomorrow when they say that was a mistake
[Galaxy Tab S General] MartinBM:
I think that SM T700 won´t get Marshmallow, due to exynos processor. Maybe I am wrong...

http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/22...e-original-galaxy-tab-s-will-get-marshmallow/
[Galaxy Tab S General] suburbadroid:
well if thats the case which i think not there was a rom ported to the t700 from t705 called erobot so im sure at least itll be port - able
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
T705/T805 are also Exynos.
[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
According to the front page for this device; the LTE models are Snapdragon processors. Aren't the 705 and 805 variants not LTE models?
[Galaxy Tab S General] j1gga84:
700 and 800 are the non LTE variants and come with snapdragon as far as I know.

Regards

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[Galaxy Tab S General] noxarcana:
The Wifi models use the Exynos 5420 Octa (1.9GHz Quad core Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7 ) and LTE models use the Snapdragon 800 (2.3GHz Quad core).
[Galaxy Tab S General] mihailrusia:
Manual user marshmallow (T-700 and T800) Date: 2016.08.17

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...800_UM_LTN_Marshmallow_Eng_Rev.1.0_160816.pdf
[Galaxy Tab S General] TheGoD:
Completely agree about the fact that 2 in 1 notebooks can't really replace tablets.

And what you say about the tablet market declining is true, but IMO the media is painting a way to dystopian picture with that information. Last time the decline was reported sales numbers for tablets were at about 30 to 40 million a quarter (I am to lazy to search right now). As a comparison around the same time the PlayStation 4 was at something above 40 million sold, in nearly three years! And the PlayStation is of course considered a massive success and the leader of the current console generation.

So when there are still more tablets sold in six months than the leading console can in three years I really don't see how the latter can be seen as a massive success and at the same time the former as obsolete. It's the same bull**** with headlines claiming PC is dead. Just like tablets people just don't need a new PC every year anymore, or ever every four years for the most part. That doesn't mean that there isn't still a need for them.

At least in Europe they both use Exynos chips.
[Galaxy Tab S General] GoldExperience:
My friend has the T705 model and it has the Exynos chip.

Unless I'm mistaken:

T700/T705/T800/T805 = Exynos 5420

T807T = Snapdragon 800

The T807T was released only in some US carriers.