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[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
The Nexus 6P was my first device from Huawei and I absolutely love it! If the pixel XL ends up disappointing me am definitely going to be looking forward the honour 9 release to see what it has to to offer. The 6p still is a great phone. I have given up all hope with Samsung .. unless they release another Nexus phone in the future I don't understand the appeal of touch wiz, the appeal to use a phone only know your top of the line specs and $1000!! Phone is going to slow way the hell down in a few months! Any support included in that $1000 price? HELL NO! Not even regular updates to keep things going smooth? NO! When I purchase a device I want to do so knowing I'm also paying for the support of the company as I am supporting them. every galaxy phone is a joke in my opinion. Would rather use an iPhone
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Not to mention no notification light.

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Unlocked bootloader and useable on Verizon?
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
That's my point though. It used to be ucommon to see a Huawei device in NA unless someone bought online. With them coming into NA with the 6P, I'm assuming the Honour 9 will be much more present in NA as well, meaning carriers will have them readily available.

People will at least have a choice. Yes, people who don't visit sites like this will stick with iPhone or Samsung's, etc. but people who want more choice will have it with something like the Honour 9. So people who go to a carrier to get a phone and know more about phones (looking at maybe a Pixel for example), will also look at the Honour 9 as well. I fall into this category as some others do. So those who are looking at something other than the major brands they see advertised, will look at both the Pixel and Honour 9 and will make that choice. This is where I see the Huawei phone doing quite well.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
After using the Note 7 for a week, if the Pixel is what it seems to be, I'd rather use the Note 7.
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
My hope is Google trying to make there phone mainstream with the big launch event and commercials that draw attention to Huawei and other devices on the same tier and away from Samsung and apple. Still optimistic about the pixel. We still don't know if it's water proof (constantly working around water, this would be a huge selling point for me)

Maybe I'll give it a try if I can unlock the bootloader.. otherwise always have been disappointed with the amount of bloatware Samsung allows on there devices.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Ahhhh, I had the Exynos version which came with the BL unlocked. It's also faster and smoother than the SD version. Was a really great phone if they hadn't messed up the battery.
[Nexus 6P General] neo905:
If Axon 7 software wasn't so sketch that would have been a more interesting phone.

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This. Huawei isn't mainstream in North America. The average person using the internet has Googled something a thousand times. All you have to say is Google Pixel and it will resonate with the average consumer. You have to price it comparable to other flagships or consumers will think it is inferior. Google can't live off of XDA users to make a viable smartphone product to reach critical mass, they have to use their brand power. The 6P was never intended to make any money. It was a developers phone. Now it is out of the developer phase and into the commercial phase of it's existence. That's just the reality of the situation.

That said, if the Pixel XL is over $1,000CDN I'm not interested and will probably buy another 6P when the price gets slashed since that is a better value for me personally.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Axon 7 looks nice, but I would get the LG V20 for the bigger screen, removable battery & superior audio DAC.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I think we can safely say now the Nexus and its philosophy is dead. The old devices aren't even getting timely updates!
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
In the Dev threads here I saw that Cyanogenmod 13 exists for the device...so that's good.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
I agree completely with this. The original intention of the Nexus program has been long dead now. And now the newer intention of the Nexus program is now dead. And now starts the "Google makes premium devices" era.....unfortunately. I am really hoping those pricings are not accurate at all. I am not willing to spend that much on a Nexus device.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Because Huawei's software is awful and the software can make or break a phone ? :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It gets worse, the Pixels will be difficult to root, systemless doesn't work....

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...fficulty-in-rooting-googles-pixel-phones.html
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Great. I've never done the rooting process myself (I mean figuring out how to root the device initially), but I could only imagine what a pain in the ass it would be. Then again this shouldn't be "new", because HTC's have been notorious for being the more difficult of the bunch to fully root right out of the box.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
That is a killer for me. Upgraded from an M9 to the 6P because of the notification light.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
It really is a major necessity...well kind of. I need it, hate having a device that doesn't have it.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
Actually no. HTC willingly supports unlocking the bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] neo905:
I will take it a step further. Five years from now I bet Android won't even be an open system anymore. It won't be completely walled garden like IOS. But it will be more like a zoo and we are the animals.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Really? I guess I'm thinking about the time where S-Off was difficult to accomplish.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Definitely heading in that direction.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
S-OFF was only needed to change from US to International etc.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
No.

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
They didn't provide the Nexus 6P software though. Google does.
[Nexus 6P General] kibmikey1:
I am going to get a Pixel. I've been wanting to switch to Project Fi for a while anyway, and this would seem to be the right time to do it. Rumors aside, if Google is going where I think it's going with this line of phones, it would seem to be a logical fit. There are always negative rumors going around whenever a new phone is released, and after having learned my lesson time and again (things are never as bad as they seem) I'll wait until I have the hardware in hand and go from there.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Love the 6P. Why would I upgrade to no front facing speakers and a smaller screen? Yawn. Wake me up in 2017.
[Nexus 6P General] ajsmsg78:
I'd pick up a 6.44 Mi Max if they had the US LTE Bands.
[Nexus 6P General] nima0003:
Not familiar with MKBHD?!?! Ok, go get familiar with MKBHD on an iPhone, then when you are ready, come back to Android. :)
[Nexus 6P General] daffie:
:) MKBHD is numbawon! Seriously though, love his reviews...a great guy as well so it seems.
[Nexus 6P General] badrsj:
Ah the USA bands dilemma

I've taken the jump and ordered Mi Max. Majority of my life is in good coverage and WiFi. So that shouldn't matter as much as it did.

Xiaomi is ex Google and updates devices regularly
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
The problem with Nexus 6p's camera is that it is very slow, so I ended missing moments because it takes so long to take and process the picture , it is faster without hdr+ but then the build quality suffers a lot, the camera app is not really responsive either , please google fix your camera mess

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[Nexus 6P General] BaronKrause:
Naa, going to hold onto this device for another year. Curious how that new Google branded phone turns out next year before I decide to upgrade to that or the next Nexus device.
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
I tried watching the video but I'm not a fan of video reviews. I also like reviews that provide numbers for things like benchmarks and screen calibration.
[Nexus 6P General] rkial:
Hope this is the right place... Does anyone know who gets the money from the Nexus sales? Google (the OEM having a contract and Google keeping the profits), or the OEM?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It's the videos that kill me, I'm sick of the wobbly, jerky mess that the 6P produces.
[Nexus 6P General] rosco77:
Yea, that's true. Using an iPhone even as your secondary phone should discredit anyone quite a bit.

In his defense; he says apps that use the camera (E.G. snapchat) work better on iPhone and that's what he uses it for but not the camera app itself. He sounded like he felt the need to explain himself like he knew he was going to be shunned for using it. He was trying to explain away the shame.
[Nexus 6P General] Mikey:
I won't be but I will be buying it for the wifey
[Nexus 6P General] StrizzMatik:
New Nexus phones are a step back in several ways, so I preordered the ZTE Axon 7. The OP3 was tempting, but I want my qHD, expandable storage and front-facing speakers.
[Nexus 6P General] ChristianLife21:
Nope

My first smartphone was the HTC Incredibile. Which in my opinion was HTC's best phone. They have been playing catch up on phones since then. HTC has made decent phones but have been plagued with issues. Google went with HTC for the Nexus 9 which i was NOT impressed with at all. I bought one and returned it a few days later. I LOVE the nexus brand, and i think the 6P is the best Nexus to date.

I think google is making a big mistake going back to HTC.

The only gripe i have about the 6p is the batterly life if pretty horrible.

i love the Look, feel, design, functionality of the huawei 6P and think Google should give them another Crack at it.

Here's to hoping for another huawei in 2017. HTC can kiss it, cuz i will never buy another HTC product.
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
Wow, first time I'm seeing the Axon 7. Would've dismissed it if I didn't look up the specs just because it's ZTE. The hardware is the best all-around package on a 2016 flagship to date - no question about it. The software is the only thing I am concerned about...
[Nexus 6P General] markwebb:
But the ZTE phones are generally bootloader locked with virtually no development.
[Nexus 6P General] therock3181:
Bootloader seems to be unlock. ZTE hints.
[Nexus 6P General] BoydCrowder:
Still Tempting offer

Newegg has a pre order offer including free Monster over the ear headphones valued at $199 if you prefer the Axon 7... Very tempting...
[Nexus 6P General] kj2:
Will keep my 6P for now. First have to see the launch, final specs and first reviews. Smaller screen might be handier sometimes but I'm adjusted to the large screen of the 6P. And front facing speakers was one of the selling points to me.
[Nexus 6P General] MrChell:
Same

Exactly, it isn't like the 6P is getting slow or anything close. I might enjoy a little smaller screen though if they reign in the dimensions of the whole unit as well. It would make it a bit easier to keep in a pocket
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
Why is this the feelings of some here?
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
I'll be honest ... I have bought every single nexus phone till date... And the nexus 5 and nexus 6p were the phones that I loved much.... But looking at these pics of Pixel.. price or not... They looking fugly... They should have taken HTC 10 as ref. Decide for the pixel xl atleast ...
[Nexus 6P General] xxNiradxx:
Completely agree.

https://oneplus.net/oneplus-3

6gb ram, snapdragon 820, 16MP camera.

Basically, same / better specs and is only $400.

If the new Google Pixel is $649+, then that's a slap in the face.
[Nexus 6P General] badrsj:
I'm now into price conscious sub flagship devices with larger screens and batteries.

Enter Mi Max

300 to 340 USD

Development abound and plenty.

Loads of Miui features

6.4" 4800 battery

ACTUAL more than one day battery life.

I'm sold.

Caution for enthusiasts:

Brand loyalty may lead to feature blindness
[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
What's probably gonna happen is Google will release the phones, nobody is gonna buy them bc they're ridiculously priced, then in like a month they're gonna cut the prices. I really hope Google learns a lesson so that the 2017 pixels are priced competitively
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
No it isn't. I had the Ascend Mate 2 and loved the OS along with the latest update that it got not that long ago. Their OS is better than Samsung's by a mile. Nice and clean.

Matter of preference I guess, but I disagree. Their OS is fine as far as I'm concerned.
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
Prices aside, you can't sacrifice features and design like that and expect people to be fine with it.
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
What do you think the adoption rate will be on this device if rumors prove to be true? Personally worried about Google trying to lock down there software, like general "retail" devices.

The first device that introduced me to the world of developers and XDA community specifically was the HD2 .. that device made by HTC was a developers heaven!! I ran windows mobile, windows phone 8, Linux! Ubuntu, and any version of android. The community around that device was amazing. Sh!+ I played StarCraft on thing!

HTC maybe do a throwback to that device? Would be interesting.. not sure it would be possible now..
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
HTC is a dying company. They haven't had a successful product since 2011. This isn't an upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Do you think the phone will be available at the same day or a couple of weeks later ? How was it last year with the nexus 6p?

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
End of October id say. Pre orders straight away.
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Not pre-ordering until I know more about it. Especially BL unlocked & root.

BTW, wasn't 6P $649 when it came out?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Started at $499.
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Oh, yes. For the 32g, wasn't it. I'm thinking of the higher memory version I suppose.
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
I miss the good old days of this company with the HD2 and the G2! Such innovative designs! That they eventually shied away from.
[Nexus 6P General] humdrum2009:
I'll keep my 6p

Until Huawei releases an updated model

Similar to the 6p

Honestly it's the best phone i have every owned. I don't feel the need to update at all. For the first time in years i am happy with my phone lol.

The new pixel looks horribly overpriced and to iPhone like.
[Nexus 6P General] KnownDominance:
I will definitely consider it. Entirely dependant on battery life
[Nexus 6P General] Technicolors:
a 6.4" phone? it's not a problem to carry it around?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
No(very little) waterproofing.....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ning-no-dunking-your-pixel-or-hosing-it-down/
[Nexus 6P General] badrsj:
Got used to

Have bad eyes

So it helps

Not to mention the gigantic battery blows anything in life
[Nexus 6P General] BoydCrowder:
821 and I am in..... If it comes with an 820, I will have to seriously consider the Oneplus 3, depending what nougat 7.1 brings to the table.

I do love the design especially in blue or red
[Nexus 6P General] Str8gahbidge:
I definitely will be leaving Huawei. Their customer service is garbage.

That and the fluence false / muffled voice/ speakerphone echo issue has been a deal breaker for me
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
:( How is that going to compete with the iphone?
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Does it do CDMA and GSM?
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Maybe with a competitive price to prove the rumors wrong :)

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[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
I don't think you'll be let down by the OnePlus 3 if you choose to get it. I've been back and forth over 6p, Pixel, and OP3......I pulled the trigger early and got the OP3 and couldn't be happier. The Dev Community is almost TOO active (if that is such a thing). Kernels, ROMs, Mods floating around from well-respected Devs. And you just can't beat the $400 price tag.
[Nexus 6P General] badrsj:
GSM network only

Interestingly only gets HSPA, NOT US LTE compatible cause it's not a US released device. However on T-Mobile, I've driven from Midwest to Canada without losing GPS. Cannot say signal was stellar but was workable. I live in a good network coverage area and have WiFi at work, so I'm covered for majority of my time.

Always consider what's carrier coverage where you live. There's people who didn't have good coverage and lack of LTE made a bigger problem for them.
[Nexus 6P General] daffie:
If I may hijack this thread for one moment... ;) I'm basically rather torn atm between 6P, Pixel XL, OP3, and Note 7.

How do you find the 1080p screen of the OP3? I am very much used to 2K screens. Reviews indicate the screen is 'fine', but due to pentile matrix screen it's not the best. Also color measurements by Erica ('the technology nerd') indicate the screen is much too bluish (even on sRGB mode).

Have you been able to compare the OP3 with a 2k-screen phone?
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
I don't have a direct comparison but I do know there are many many display tweaks to tickle your fancy. I personally find the display great, but I'm not that particular when it comes to that specific spec. There is a thread in the OP3 forums where people fiddle around with the display settings and share their presets. Most Kernels come with a full array of color tweaks. Last I remember, people didn't like the screen, then OP3 made sRGB enabled, and reviews were positive.

The main thing that blows me away is how stable and fast the phone and custom ROMs are.
[Nexus 6P General] daffie:
Cheers! Very helpful.

Good to know the rgb mode does make colours more natural on the OP3. I know about custom kernel options to fiddle with colours. Used to do this myself on my 6P ;) I found it never to be perfect though unfortunately, but I may have (too) high expectations...

Anyway... appreciate the info.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Don't go for the oneplus 3 if you really care about screens , I had it and returned , it feels sooo snappy but you can definitely tell it's a pentile 1080p panel , you don't notice it that much on pictures , but there's a noticeable difference vs the nexus screen on text , it's soo much sharper on the nexus... :(

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[Nexus 6P General] BoydCrowder:
I bought it for my wife and daughter when it first came out. After a few bugs were worked out, they both love it, including surprisingly good battery life.

I know I won't be disappointed, but a blue Pixel XL with an 821 and 7.1 would best it regardless of price.

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LTE works just fine on my wife's in Chicago area.
[Nexus 6P General] daffie:
Cheers...it's what I thought and the reviews seem to indicate as much. Will have to think a bit more on this.

The process continues....
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Yeah that's a problem for me. Device needs to have CDMA and GSM, and must be able to switch. I can't give up my Project Fi.

According to one of the masterful best buy geeks, the Note 7 will work....when they aren't so lit anymore.

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T-Mobile?
[Nexus 6P General] BoydCrowder:
Yep
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
If this phone had a 2k display I would be immediately sold. The 6P really has spoiled me in regards to the display. At first glance I could see the quality.
[Nexus 6P General] Rhokk:
Hey guys just a quick heads up, got an email today about the zenfone 3 deluxe being available in the US now. Looks like Amazon has it.

http://zenfone.us11.list-manage.com...313c7124bccc0d3830&id=c42c069766&e=0a8a3bc54f

It's everything I wanted in a phone, now if only we can get an unlocked bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] mihovil13:
I have a small rumour...the Pixel will definitely start at 649$ contract-free, and the XL at 729$ contract-free.

That's for the 32 gig models. Apparently it's the HTC who dictates the price. Same thing when Samsung released Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
Shouldn't be called a Pixel phone. Seems like HTC had way too much influence.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
For the specs they're crazy prices.
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Exactly why I paid $400 for OnePlus 3.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
No 2k screen no party.
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
Was just checking this phone out looks pretty good on paper. Maybe an option? Capitalizing on HTC ruining the a phone in the Nexus line?
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
There will always be something. Its just a matter of if you can be OK with it. I personally would not cough up that kinda extra dough simply for that difference.
[Nexus 6P General] robertm2011:
No. I'm still down with the Nexus 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Some of us don't settle....and some of us will pay more for what we want. It's important to be happy with your purchase. Makes the whole consumer experience better.
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
Still got a year on the Google Warranty. No need to upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] dalton4life:
I had a Nexus 6 and then a 6P. I have no interest in the Pixel XL. I may take a look at the next Sony Xperia Z phablet when I feel it's time to upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] Brookspeffer:
I'm glad I bought a 6p. The pixel is going to be too expensive, and the OP3 is good but not good enough for me to get rid of this phone. Also missing a 2k screen.
[Nexus 6P General] neo905:
I am not sure who told you HTC is dictating price because they are in no position to dictate terms to anyone especially google. Their name is going to be nowhere to be found on this phone. Google is the one trying to throw them a lifeline here.
[Nexus 6P General] mihovil13:
We'll I have a friend working for a carrier...I won't go in details there....so either it's the carriers or it's HTC.

And HTC always put a premium price tag at their Nexuses.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Google is going to flop with this release.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Unless they pull an amazing feature out of the bag, the only selling point I can see is is that it has Pure Android. You could get a waterproof, sd card slot, amazing design, always on display S7 Edge cheaper now. OK, the S7 Edge has Touchwiz but its way ahead of the Pixel in all other areas and Touchwiz on it isn't even that bad. Also the rumours it's going to be difficult to root are burying this phone even more.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Not to mention it's ugly with huge bezels with no front facing speakers. If it kept the speakers, that would probably make me go for it. I'm willing to get it has a subwoofer on the bottom and a tweeter on the top (the ear piece), but that still isn't the same.

I'll most likely go with the new Moto Z.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
At this point the best way for Google to surprise would be to keep the 500 price tag for the pixel XL AND have an amazing camera , I can't believe I'm saying this but otherwise I'll just get a galaxy s7 edge ,I think once it gets nougat with the note 8 ui , will be quite ok ,after replacing Samsung's apps with Google's :/

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[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
I use my phone frequently in a dash mount for navigation. Nexus 6 is about minimum screen size I want for this. I have no trouble using as phone / PDA one-handed, especially with pie control. So if XL is noticeably smaller at the expected price point - - probably no sale.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I can get a brand new S7 Edge for £500 if as expected the XL is £600+ then it'd be madness to get a Pixel. Things have changed so much in Android world.