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[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
I have no card reader and use phone to transfer files. I installed nueUSB, so when I connect phone to PC, it appears like removable storage.

As for working/non-working SD cards, I do not know. I have one stock 512 mb card and one more SanDisk 4 gb SDHC card, and both working with no any problems.

I believe that those 'non-working' cards are simply incorrectly partitioned, however I'm not 100% sure with this.

And one more suggestion. Buy as fast card, as you can find, because it really affects speed of whole system. I have class 6 SDHC card, which is fast enough.

And no, you don't have to delete everything else from SD card.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] stoked:
Which files did you use? Did you change the default.txt from the vogue one?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] stoked:
Magister2k7,

I noticed you have been submitted patches regularly to dzo's code. Does dzo's cupcake 1.5 build include your patches as well?

Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Kernel - yes, includes.

But system.img has some differences (key layout - to make jog dial work) and screen rotation.

btw, recent kernels will crash on Titan after some time, and I cannot find cause of this for now :(
[Mogul, XV6800 General] stoked:
OK thanks, so I should grab the system.img from your website, or try and diff them and bring the key layout and screen rotation settings to dzo's system.img.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] xetheriel:
I used Magisters defaults.txt from his site, as well as his image. Working well, internet even works, but I don't use it because I don't have a data plan.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] squison:
There's been a few new releases the last couple of days from the Vogue folks. It looks fancy, and they've got GPS going. I tried it out on the titan.. and it starts, but man.. is it slow. I wonder if android 1.5 will ever fit in the tiny amount of RAM on the titan. I've been on ebay shopping for a Vogue :)

Anyway, if you want to try it out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=523692
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cyberhern:
Anyway you couldd report on what does and does not work?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Andy_in_Indy:
I have a problem with the phone not waking up after it shuts down from inactivity on all pm.sleepmodes. I am trying to see how far back this goes, but it may be a combination of initrd and zimage changes.

The lag time during use increases as the kernel gets newer. I am using dzo's 1.1 system image for now because the 1.5 images try to run WAY too many processes for the Titan to handle.

Magister2k7, when we put in the Titan's Machine type, does it try to use the 128 MB data image or does it keep it 64 MB? I can barely keep up with what lands where after the build, let alone understand the kernel code.

@cyberhern:

The camera, bluetooth, IR and wireless still do not work. They do have the data connections identified by the type (EDGE, EVDO A, etc) and gps is supposed to work (my phone keeps shutting down while I try to load Maps so I can't confirm)

The current initrd is supposed to automatically set your max # of processes to 4 as well as build a data.img and backup file for you on your card. Someone on the Vogue list suggested setting the max freq for the sd cards to 25 MHz is they work in WinMo but not Android and that has made a difference on an SD card I was going to retire.

@squison:

The Verizon Wireless website shows a limited time special on the xv6900 (Vogue) - $50 with a 2 year contract. If you were going to be on Verizon, it will be hard to beat that price on e-bay.

-Andy in Indy
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
The problem with new kernels is that dzo rewritten CPLD code, and Titan's part is not updated yet. You can try this one (with updated code): http://magister.ipsys.net/files/android/zImage_new

It should have GPS, 3D and sleep/wake properly. Hovewer, on my phone it freezes after some time (as well as kernels by dzo).

I am using an older kernel for now, you can get it from http://magister.ipsys.net/files/android/zImage_stable

There is no 3D, no GPS but it is stable for me.

And no, initrd has no any relation with sleep/wake. It is a kernel task.

The size of data image is set in the initrd. I am not using data.img at all, but have a partition on SD card formatted to ext2.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ebonygirl:
I got the can't mount SD card issue like many others did.

I formatted using HP's utility found here HP USB Drive FAT32 Formatter

Put my files back on the card & made sure I ejected it properly so I could remove safely.

Booted up slow but works!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
Does the stable zImage have the sleep/wake fixed, or is that only the new zImage?

Also, how are you all tolerating the Vogue 1.1's screen rotating the wrong way? I've tried to find an onscreen keyboard so it wouldn't be as big of a deal, but I haven't found one yet.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
stable is old image, before those changes appeared.

and about screen rotating - I patched android source to do that in my build, hovewer that build is 1.0.

as for 1.5 or 1.1 - I haven't tried it, look into Kaiser's thread - there were some posts about that (some Kaiser's have the same sliding direction as Titan).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Leathal:
Wow this is awesome stuff, I've been looking to get an Android phone but Sprint is killin me with their lack of selection.

Quick question: I looked through the Kaiser thread but couldn't figure out how to fix screen rotation; does anyone know exactly what I have to do to get the screen rotating properly in Android 1.1?

Failing that, can I get Marketplace working in the 1.0 stable build? I'm jonesin pretty hard to try out the new Google Voice app.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dzo:
There is a hack in the kernel to get the kaiser screen to rotate correctly.

in drivers/video/msm/mdp_ppp.c

in mdp_scale_display(...)

change the following line to add the titan kbd open gpio and it should work.

if(machine_is_htckaiser() && gpio_get_value(KAISER_GPIO_KBD_OPEN))

req.flags=MDP_FLIP_LR | MDP_FLIP_UD;
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
Is there a way of patching the zImage already out (I'm assuming it'd be the zImage since you said it's in the kernel), or will this involve getting the android source? I've never tried doing either before, but now is as good a time as any to learn.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Thanks, I'll do that soon.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dzo:
Oh, I forgot, the ts coordinates have to be inverted too.

board-kaiser-ts.c line 272
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Thanks, I noticed that (as you can see in the latest commit).

Now the big problem is RAM... Some time ago you told that there may be some free RAM which can be used, please give me some directions on how to find it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
Hey,

I gave building the kernel a try, and I got the screen rotation to work on 1.1. My issue now is that I can't send or receive calls (it reboots when a call comes in or goes out). I'm assuming theres something that needs changed in the kernel, but many hours of searching have left me empty handed. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Just a guess: it may be caused by latest audio changes, so you can ether try latest 1.5 image, or undo audio changes.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
I just gave 1.5 a go with my zImage and it has the same issue with making/receiving calls. I'll give option #2 a go next.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] katmandu421:
I'm getting a mogul for my fiancee this week and have been using ion and 1.1 on my vogue for months now and she'd love to have that same OS.

What version of the kernel is recommended for use with gps on 1.1, any?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
You can use the same kernel as for Vogue, but replace MTYPE with 1463.

As for GPS, I have not got it working, through it maybe because of wrong system.img/initrd.gz.

Generally, I don't think you'll like Android on Titan, as it too slow (because of only 64 Mb RAM).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] katmandu421:
So the folks over at the vogue forum are looking at coming up with a ROM that would run Adnroid from the internal device memory, but there are still issues. I have conifdence that the smart folks will sort them out, though. Would this help the performance also?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
That will make programs start faster, but will not increase free RAM.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Baconomatic:
I am looking to work on the wifi working. Does anyone have any information on this? Or perhaps someone has also started working on it?

What version of Android is able to be ran on the Titan?

Also how different is the Vogue hardware from the Titan?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
First you should try to extract calibration data (I believe script to do that is in latest Kaiser builds, but not sure it will work for Titan). Then check if that data is valid (there should be MAC of your device there).

If all ok, then you need to find GPIO numbers to enable/disable WiFi and then copy WiFi code from Kaiser's code.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Baconomatic:
Sounds good I will get to work on that.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Make sure you use kernel from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/ as it has MTD enabled (because calibration data is stored in phone's internal flash)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] gnovak99:
while playing around trying install 1.5 ion on my sprint mogul, i noticed in terminal (when its booting up the OS) if i flick the wi-fi switch it turned on the flash... kinda funny.

Hope thats somewhat constructive.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
If you look into GIT commits log, you'll see that it is normal behavior. WiFi does not work for now, so why not use that switch for lighter? =)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] beyawnko:
what's the latest stable build of Android that anyone can pull off? Ive only been able to get 1.1 with the newest kernel and default.txt.

Im really looking forward to a flashable ROM for any of them though, so keep up the good work! Closer to abandoning WinMo!

*also i was wondering if anyone knew of an easy way of editing the system to include the screen rotation fix? I saw someone saying what to edit but not too sure myself how to edit it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
I've been using the 1.5 cupcake for the Vogue. It includes the screen rotation fix too. It's incredibly slow though! I can't wait for the Moto Sholes to come out on Verizon. That's when I jump ship.

As a side note, I managed to patch the kernel following the directions, but that led to it not being able to make calls.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
MrPenguin_2,

What do you mean? Calls worked ok a long time ago, and work now ideally.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] MrPenguin_2:
Oh I mean when I tried to build the kernel myself. I got the screen to rotate properly, but the phone would reset when I tried to make a call or when I got a call. It's a non-issue though because the ion build posted for vogue has the screen rotation fixed.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] shaolin77:
Hey everyone, I have been going a series of postings..so please forgive me if this sounds repetitive...I may have not gotten to what I'm looking for yet.

Regarding Android and the mogul...I've been trying to get Android to boot all day yesterday...had similar problems like some of you have been experiencing. The error I was getting was can't access tty; job control turned off"

I dont have a SDHC card, but a regular 1GB Micro SD card, I downloaded the necessary files from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ ) extracted them to the root of the SD card and when I attempted to boot thats when I got the error. I'm a little confused regarding these files since it seems its for the vogue....but some have said this works with the Mogul...so any clarification would help.

I see some where saying it could be either the card or how its been formatted. I then proceeded to format my SD though my windows box using both FAT and FAT32 FS and extracted the files again....still nothing still getting the same error mentioned above.

While doing some research I found someone name Magister who has been working on getting Android working the Mogul... went to his website http://magister.ipsys.net/?page_id=69&lang=en and I downloaded his packaged files I also ended up formatting my Micro SD again but this time I formatted it through my Linux box using FAT....I'm not sure if this made a difference or not...however with Magister's package I was able to boot Android in seconds...so a BIG THANKS goes out to Magister.

Functionality with Magister's package is not bad...I was able to make calls, send text and get on the internet immediately. My keyboard works with minor issues...button layout is a little different..but I'm getting use to it....while I haven't fully tested everything yet...there are two apps so far that aren't working (Calendar and Camera). I read some posting regarding performance...while its not blazing fast...I'm impressed with the response in its current state...It's not really that bad.

I'm not sure what Android version Magister's package contains. However, does anyone have a more current build of Android that is working on the HTC Mogul and can direct me to where I can get the files and the exact steps on how to get it installed.

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 General] kkruse:
FYI, I have had really good success with the android-vogue project. Using the instructions there, use the zImage-23-10-09 (works best for mogul switching). Otherwise you may have wierd keyboard screen rotation. GPS works, data works, sms works. The only thing i have not been able to get working is the 'where' application, and camera. It refuses to use GPS at all but everything else is pretty solid. There are some app hangs between screens but Its tolerable for me on the Mogul being that its ridiculously low memory.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
shaolin77, you may use any recent Vogue package, just change default.txt to Mogul's one (from my package).

kkruse, GPS worked for me some time ago, try to use latest zImage.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Here is Android 1.5 (works great!).

Just format card to FAT32 and install files

Got this link from ppcgeeks...

http://www.4shared.com/dir/23901326/b51b4232/Android_15.html

Enjoy, got Android 1.5 to work on my Titan using these files. :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
Titan / Mogul Android 1.6 Install

FYI, I am just using 1.6 for the first time. I have been having trouble getting any version to work until I downloaded the default.txt file specifically for the Titan. The problem was, I had a HELL of a time finding it here. So, I hope everyone else looking for it will be able to find it by referring to my post here.

To those of you looking here, a post above shows that the link: http://magister.ipsys.net/?page_id=69&lang=en will get you the default.txt that you need for the Titan. Using that with the most current Android version from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/WikiStart (1.6 as of today) or http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds will work (I found the ion version rather slow). I did this as a first time install. A straight swap of the default.txt file should work.

zImage-23-10-09 seems to work MUCH better than zImage-24-10-09.

Personally, I like the system-tmo-ota-drc92.sqsh version from http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds the best; however the Android Market doesn't appear to work in this version. I would appreciate if someone could help with that . However, I have been having trouble getting wifi and the camera to work in any version so far.

Thanks everyone for all your hard work.

End Transmission.

TS
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Thanks I will check this out. Can I just switch the default or do I have to put all the files on again?

I just deleted everything and started over.

Wait this is 1.0? I don't even see a marketplace. Going to start over with the files I found unless you have a link for 1.6?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
I got my Android version from here:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/WikiStart

and replaced the default.txt with the default.txt from the Titan version as indicated above.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Thanks. Is this slower then 1.5? If yes then I won't bother and keep what I have.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
I think it depends on which on you try. I have been replacing the system.sqsh with different ones trying to find the best one. I found the 1.6 ION version to be rather slow. I'm trying a couple others too and the speed is much better. So, I just suggest replace the default.txt with the Titan default.txt for sure and just play with the system.sqsh or system.img files until you find one that works for you. zImage-23-10-09 seems to work MUCH better than zImage-24-10-09.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Thanks. Would I have to rename the z image without the date or does that not matter?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
Most definitely must rename to zImage.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Well I did it but it is still Android 1.5.:confused:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Uss_Defiant:
Thanks for the tips Timeshell, your advice got it working for me. I'm dissapointed to find out that wifi isnt working though? Any of you get the same milage?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
I have likewise had no success with wifi or the camera.

TS
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Yeah once someone gets wifi to work it will be awesome. Then when I get a new phone I can still use my Titan as a android pda. ;)

So Timeshell, you definetly have Android 1.6 and not 1.5?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
Personally, I like the system-tmo-ota-drc92.sqsh version from http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds the best which is listed as a 1.6 (Donut) version; however the Android Market doesn't appear to work in this version. I would appreciate if someone could help with that.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Oh wow ok yeah hopfully we can get the marketplace running on that version.

edit: Is there a way I can put my text messages back onto Windows Mobile? I hate for it to be seperated and completely gone (every time I do another android install).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Timeshell:
I find it interesting you say that. I don't find it slow when using the right image. The 1.6 ION image is slow, but the DRC92 is pretty good.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] tyler477:
argh!

I am doing everything right !

windows mobile 6.1

sprint mogul

"failed to mount sd card error"

I get no errors at harem! stalls on linux command propmt :(

where do I begin troubleshooting? does GPS work now?

Thanks guy, really itching to get this working!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Make sure you format your card to FAT32...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
I tried some Ion images, and maybe some other, but none of them gives me normal internet access! Only http is working, no https - so I cannot login to google. Going to try DRC92...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] tyler477:
yes it is! I go to the memory card when I'm on activ sync and click properties and it says fat 32!? HELP! it's VERY annoying!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
You need to have partition on a card. Try to repartition it in Linux.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
How can I have Anroid see my ringtones? I put it in the right folders on the SD Card but it still does not seem them. I know how to add a ringtone manually one by one but that takes too long.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] bgnome:
it seems strange to me that updated kernels ive tried end up having this rotation issue, while this image does not. anyone know why that is?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] xhuul:
has anyone figured out a way to turn off the face panel lights before booting into android? i've been lookin for a way to disable them with no luck
[Mogul, XV6800 General] andyjeezy:
Cant wait for a fully functional Android OS on the 6800

I cant wait for the day I flash my Titan to a fully functional Android phone.. Keep up the great work XDA.. I know the Vogue is closer to being Android compatible then the Titan but if they port it to the Vogue that means Titans around the corner.

Continue the great work guys..
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
There is a "hack" that makes rotation working in the latest kernels. But you need to disable "Orientation" in Android settings first.

My (1.0) image has another rotation fix (not in kernel), so it works correctly with older kernels too, but you need to disable that rotation fix (see default.txt from my package).

Just set screen brighteness to minimal value in WinMobile before booting Android.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Oh really I will have to try that thanks. Saw on pocketnow that Android 2.0.1 is on a diamond 2. Hopfully we can get that on titan but with internet and marketplace too.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] friday6800:
gps works with google maps

im running android and everything seems to be working pretty well do get some error messages gps works with maps usb works android market works internet works phone calls work. what i need to know is how to get wifi working and the camera working and eliminate some errors. email me at friday6800@gmail.com
[Mogul, XV6800 General] friday6800:
set default script from 3 to one i believe what does your default script look like. you can email it to me ill try it friday6800@gmail.com
[Mogul, XV6800 General] xhuul:
thanks magister.. it's starting to look pretty good for the titan
[Mogul, XV6800 General] friday6800:
on my version of android the internet and marketplace and gps all works. where can i get the 2.0 or 2.0.1 system image does anyone have the download link? how can you fix the camera its just green?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Internet works on some carriers, and do not work on others, the same is the marketplace. For me, only http connections work, so I have no market => newer android versions are useless for me.

look into Vogue and Kaiser forums, there should be some links.

As for camera - no, it do not works for now, as there is no kernel driver for it. Someone should write one (or adapt Vogue's driver, as it is much similar).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cliffordconradsumner:
Windows mobile has been giving me nothing but trouble, I want this so bad!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
Has anyone figured how to get wifi working?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Nativedude:
Has there been any kernel updates to the titan here lately?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] segadc:
I guess not. Still want wifi!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] GucciPilot:
I've been in the Kaiser/Vogue forums and trying out new stuff. The end result is all the same, random lockups/sms sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, by the time the phone rings it's too late. I just can't wait for the Xperia X10 to be released, 1gb ram and 1ghz processor, can't beat that (for now). Thanks for your hard work and efforts to make me realize that android > wm 6.* our phones should've shipped with android 1.0 instead of wm 6.0, it runs so much smoother!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] cliffordconradsumner:
Just wondering if there has been anymore progress/talk concerning a fully compatible port over to the Titan..I want to get rid of WM so badly.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ebonygirl:
Android on the Vogue is NOT so slow that you miss calls etc...

After many frustrations I finally got Android 2.1 installed & running on my Verizon XV6900. I am very happy and almost too happy to the point that if there was an Android device with a decent keyboard I would think about switching whole heartedly.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=619285

There's the link, I'm going to try it out on my old 6800 too.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] xiton:
When I try to boot Android up using haret.exe, I get an error stating:

"Failed to mount the SD Card. Cannot continue."

Can anyone assist me?