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[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
I was looking forward to a Nexus 7P, oh well hopefully these HTC models are great. But for the love of God, Google needs to put these new Pixel phones in stores at all four U.S. carriers already ( not just Verizon ) it needs to be in T-Mobile stores, and ATT and Sprint too, and have them for sale at subsidized monthly payments, just like the iPhone and Galaxy phones. And advertise the crap out of them like Samsung did a few years ago.

And still be untouched stock vanilla Android, with zero carrier bloat added, no different than Apple does with their iPhone's being sold at U.S. carriers, no carrier crapware.

Google "Just, do it".

But I can just see Google F'ing this up, putting it in Verizon stores only, and mostly sold on the Google Play, they will advertise it casually. And again will not sell much, and still be a nerds phone only, with the general Joe Blow being unaware such a great phone even exists. And for selling at $700+ with no monthly payments, this phone will be a dud to 99% of smartphone buyers.

I don't see why this can't be put in all four U.S. carrier stores, and advertised nicely well too ? LG can, Motorola can, HTC used to, and of course the big players Apple and Samsung do. Don't see why Google can't also do it ?
[Nexus 6P General] smartgid:
Personally, I'm pretty excited about the new Pixel device because of how hard Google is advertising and pushing it this time around, and I truly want to see it succeed and penetrate the already saturated smartphone market, but I will not be upgrading this time around. I bought the Nexus 6P refurbished only a few months ago and I fully intend to use it for at least the next four years.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
They're advertising the Pixel?

I know it isn't out yet, so there are no TV spots or anything like that. The only thing I've seen are those weird cut outs that stood in different cities.

Plus, it's only being sold at Verizon...
[Nexus 6P General] smartgid:
Where'd you hear that? A carrier exclusive would make no sense whatsoever, and I'm 99% sure the Oct. 4 Made by Google video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNnCtmyujLA) has been on TV once or twice, or some variation of it.

I know it's already been confirmed not to be carrier exclusives in Canada and Australia, so I think it would only make sense to be the same in the US.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
It isn't a "fact" right now, but various tech/android sites are reporting this. They probably all got that rumor from Android Police, but I'm not sure.
[Nexus 6P General] smartgid:
Dang, if it were a Verizon exclusive I would definitely not be getting it, even years from now as a used phone. Verizon is way to expensive as a carrier.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...xel-phone-start-649-financing-will-available/

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/09/google-pixel-pixel-xl-exclusive-verizon/

http://phandroid.com/2016/09/19/pixel-pixel-xl-verizon-exclusive/

http://venturebeat.com/2016/09/26/this-is-the-google-pixel/

http://www.thebitbag.com/google-pixel-xlnexus-2016-release-oct-4-exclusive-verizon/183996
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The Rumour comes from David Ruddock of Android Police who's been spot on with all the other rumours. He has "inside" info. It's a Verizon exclusive but also sold on the Playstore with finance available.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
I'm curious about the Play Store financing as I think it's a new thing this year, right?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Yeah, he said it was on the podcast.
[Nexus 6P General] jonmorris:
I tweeted this earlier as given the specs are now out there, I can't find any reason to rush to order as I have with so many previous Google devices.

I can only hope there's some big surprise, like it's just 200 bucks or something. :)

https://twitter.com/jmcomms/status/783031933769027584
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I'd honestly rather pay the slight extra for a Note 7 this year. I know it's Touchwiz but the Pixel is such a standard, boring expensive Vanilla device, it's just not worth it.
[Nexus 6P General] AndrewM3:
can anybody post a link to the live stream keynote for tmrw
[Nexus 6P General] umbrokhan:
can Google pixel beat these phones:- Motorola Moto Z Play, ZTE Axon7, Alcatel Idol 4s, Oneplus 3 and Huawei Honor 8 best bang for your buck???
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Yes, exploding battery is much more exciting!

?

I would rather have an unlockable bootloader. Don't think that Note 7 on Verizon will be.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
The international Note 7 bootloader comes unlocked,i don't car about the US version. The Pixel is so dull and uninspired it hurts and I say that as a Nexus fanboy.
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Good to hear. Wish the international version worked on US carriers. I would probably do the same.
[Nexus 6P General] Rxpert:
No, and its not supposed to.

Pixel is Googles premium brand. Its going to be expensive.
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
There is an unlocked version of the Galaxy S7 that allows you to unlock the bootloader.

I'm sure a Note & version for the US will follow.
[Nexus 6P General] got2best:
http://gizmodo.com/canadian-phone-company-ruins-googles-super-secret-phone-1787339550
[Nexus 6P General] alainalemany:
I'm a Nexus owner since the Nexus one. Every Android phone I had, has been a Nexus. I have bought every Nexus almost on launch day, and for some reason this one will be the first one that makes me wait until some price drop or something. It's not for the money, it's just the Nexus 6P seems high end enough to me right now, that I'm just not in a hurry to get one of those Pixels. Hell, there's new phones comming out (ex. iPhone 7) and you can see reviewers comparing it with the Nexus 6P.

Plus, surely Nexus 6P will be upgradeable to Android 7.1 so... much less than hurry I have to get one, really.
[Nexus 6P General] andyfoster:
Sorry to go off topic by not being totally dismissive and negative of the new phones before they have even launched, but if the relevant rumours are true, I'll be destroying my F5 key again when the Pixel goes on sale. Hopefully everybody else won't be ordering and I will get mine the following day.

The best phone I ever owned (based on my own criteria) was the Nexus 5. It had the ideal compromise between usable screen size and comfortably sitting in my pocket. It was my first pure android phone, had flagship specs (for the time), was fast enough (although faster would have been better), got all the latest updates, and was relatively cheap. The biggest problems I had with it were that I kept running out of storage (32GB is less than ideal) and I smashed the screen.

My immediate replacement was the HTC One M9 - flagship specs, SD card slot, and not too uncomfortable in my pocket. However, the software made me want to fly to wherever HTC is based and 'go postal' in their offices.

The Nexus 6P is a brilliant phone, but uncomfortable in my jeans pocket, and won't fit in the pocket of my favourite bike leathers. I have a OnePlus X for when the 6P is too small. It is almost pure android, a brilliant size and has an SD card slot. However, it's a little bit glitchy, slightly underpowered, and has only just got Marshmallow.

Give me a pure android phone (or a phone with google extras that work the google way), that comfortably its in my pocket, has 64-128GB of storage, the latest flagship specs and gets all the latest updates, and I'm sold. I'm happy to pay flagship prices for a flagship phone that ticks all the boxes. If I want to use a bigger screen, I'll dig out a tablet.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
My beef with the smaller sized phones has been there small battery.

I only got into phablet phones because bigger phone = bigger battery.

I need something that gives at least 6hrs On Screen time. And no 5" device offer that yet, your forced to get a phablet.

Wish we'll see a day of a 5" screen phone with a 3,500mAh battery.
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Track record for Samsung /Verizon /AT&T has not been good for unlocked bootloaders. An unlocked bootloader Note 7 Or GS7 would be great but I seriously doubt it for us.
[Nexus 6P General] Ulver:
My Mi5 gives me 6-7 hours screen on time and that's with a 3,000 mAh battery. Of course, you have to deal with MIUI, which isnt for everyone.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Dear Google and HTC,

If I wanted an Apple, I would simply buy one.

Sincerely

Jammol "Not settling for settlers"
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
$770 for 32gb XL and $870 for 128gb. Wow! No way!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...pixel-xl-showing-off-blue-color-google-magic/
[Nexus 6P General] edison.aljebury:
Your dishes opinion but I liked the size of the memory random
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
If we get the 1$ = 1 € I'm going the Apple rout , sorry Google I'm not paying 750 euros for one your phones

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Note 7 for me. Absolutely no way I'd pay that for an HTC phone with little features.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Shame on you Google.......shame...on...you.

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Yeah well.....that bigger screen sucks up more juice, so it probably evens out.
[Nexus 6P General] neo905:
Oh. I didn't realize it was running HTC Blinkfeed?/s This phone will have zero HTC apps and is only being manufactured by HTC. They had zero final say in how this phone was designed and its hardware.

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Yes. That will show Google. Buy another overpriced phone.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...pixel-xl-showing-off-blue-color-google-magic/

Holy Christ, this phone is over $800 !!!!! WTF Google ?

And then to help out and subsidize it, they put it in Verizon stores only ( The Nazi carrier and New World Order carrier THE WORST ) Where's the T-Mobile, Sprint, and ATT option ?

If you're gonna put it on carriers, put it on all four msjor carriers, not a Verizon exclusive only.

If this all turns out to be true F OFF Google, I am done with Nexus device, and I have owned and loved every single of one of them ( except the Nexus 5, didn't buy it due to the small crap battery ) dating back to the Nexus-One.

R.I.P. Nexus phones, I will miss you :(
[Nexus 6P General] brichardson1991:
Totally not buying into these particular phones. I bought the pixel C and thats enough pixel devices so far.

I'll see about next years line up but this could be the end of a great thing.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
They are about to lose me on project Fi as well. Only their devices successfully use ask carriers they run on.
[Nexus 6P General] lucky_strike33:
on contract price for verizon 128 gb is 299.99 its worth the buy for me. That is, they dont give me any problems or delay the availability of the phone.
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Yuck....Contract and Verizon. 2 bad words in one sentence.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
How do you know it's worth the buy? At least wait for the reviews. In my opinion, just knowing it's basic specs so far on paper, it is NOT worth the buy. 872.00 USD after taxes will be nearly 1000.00 phone. When Google did this pricing with the Nexus 6, it failed miserably and that's why carriers don't want Nexus phones anymore. Google or Nexus isn't well known enough like Apple, Samsung, HTC, to price phones this high especially when the basic specs are identical to phones that cost 400.00 USD (OP3, Axon 7). I hope with more information I'll want to buy it but as of now I'm sticking with my 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] lucky_strike33:
If I dont like it then I will just sell it and have 2 more years on my UDP at 29.99.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
The crazy thing is the Pixel makes Samsung phones look good value! That's a f***** up situation! Google are taking advantage of people and the crazy IPhone pricing. This phone will completely flop with theis strategy.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Almost $800 for the Pixel XL, WTF Google !!!!!!!!!

When paying full price for a phone, off contract, I'd just as soon get a OnePlus Three for $350, with pretty close to similar specs as the Pixel XL, but is half the price. And that begs the question, how can OPO make a OnePlus Three back in Spring of 2016 with pretty much current flagship specs for the time, maybe not 100% flagship spec'd, but very close, and sell it for $350. Whereas Google, a HUGE company worth BILLION$ can't make a OnePlus competitor ? I'd love to see a Nexus for the OPO pricing, and I'd be fine with a 1080p screen, and a few other spec's notched down, I just want a 5.5" screen, and like a 3,500mAh battery with the SD820 + 4GB RAM, and I'd be cool.
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
I can go with both arguments. If Apple and Samsung can charge those prices, why can't Google?

If they've been midrange price, why can't they continue?

My issues are they are with the design. It seems that are getting AMOLED, it seems we're getting IOS. But why a recycled design? Why does HTC want to give us the gimmick of the bottom facing subwoofer thing? Why not just give us what people are asking for and like - front facing speakers. Front facing speakers DO NOT require huge bezels. Are we getting a notification LED?

So, since I'm asking all of this, then it should not have a premium price. We have not seen a no compromise Google phone to this date.

Just do it right. It's not hard.
[Nexus 6P General] spotmark:
EvLeaks just tweeted. VZW variant bootloader not unlockable.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Since when front facing speakers doesnt require huge bezels? Because thats exactly what they require lmao. Show me 1 phone with front facing speakers and tiny top and bottom bezels. Speaker is not just a hole or grill, they actually take up space underneath, and other factors like touchscreen chipset, notification light, camera, sensors
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
"LMAO" Axon 7

"lMAO" Bottom of Nexus 6

Yes, the top requires more for obvious reasons.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I think the Nexus days are well and truly over.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Well I'm going out with a winner "the Nexus 6P"! No Pixel toys for me...
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
It it's by at least the camera app works instantaneously and the browser doesn't lag like hell .

I'm sorry but Google cannot price their devices like Apple's.

I might just get a discounted HTC 10

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[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Please stop making a fool of yourself mkayyyy? Just because half of bezel is occupied by speaker grill doesnt mean it has small bezel. Look at axon 7 mesurements, 6p is barelly taller despite having 0.2inch bigger screen. Trully, lmao.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Have they announced the price for the XL already? The announcement is covering the new WiFi right now, and I missed the past 25 minutes or so.

If the regular Pixel starts at $650...that's very high. I don't see anything that justifies the cost. The 6p will have the new Google Assistant since it's a Nougat feature, so what's the big deal with the cost?
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
Pixel 32gb 649.00

Pixel 128gb 749.00

Pixel XL 32gb 749.00

Pixel XL 128gb 849.00

Nexus 6P 128gb 649.00....

So hardware wise all we got improved is the CPU, Camera, an extra 1gb of RAM and.........?
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Beyond the hype, the camera looks great yes. Unlimited full quality photo and video storage but they didn't say how long for. I'm pretty underwhelmed, "Assistant" is fairly "meh". I'm guessing the $850 for the 128gb was correct. There's really not much here for that price, far too high IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] lucky_strike33:
yes its been announced....[IMG="specs"]https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/o10l5swEoXB6Cx_NgzcKg2nArg0=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7217223/SSP_396.0.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="camera"]https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xaStckkohc-hUN-VYT4Jx6szOtE=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7217141/SSP_298.0.jpg[/IMG]

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It said its verizon exclusive and expect the bootloader to be locked up. Of course verizon has to do this. Not sure if I am going this route or even buying the phone now.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
I see two screenshots with no price. I saw the price above so thanks, and no thanks at the same time. Too damn expensive for a MINOR improvement over the 6p. But then again the Pixel has less hardware features (speakers).

I'm not falling for the camera boasting this time around. They did this same crap with the 6p and the 6 before it, and it was always out-shined by LG, Samsung and Apple.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
And either they underclocked the SD821 or someone messed up and put the specs for the 820 there because SD 821 has 2× 2.4ghz and 2× 2.2ghz cores.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
£819 for 128gb XL in UK. Mad, mad price.
[Nexus 6P General] JulienD33:
Pixel in the US costs 650$ (the converted value is 580€ in EU)

But in Germany it costs 760€ :D

No thanks, I will keep my N5 Google!
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
€1009 for the 128 XL hahaha
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Is the Pixel XL not on the preorder page? That's weird.

Also, why wasn't HTC mentioned AT ALL? Google boasted that they're focused on manufacturing hardware...but they didn't manufacturer this.
[Nexus 6P General] ajsmsg78:
At 5.5" not a chance. I'm still waiting on a 6-6.2 incher.
[Nexus 6P General] Lepa79:
Most likely yes. Reason: 6P just too dang long. everything else is great. So, yes, looking forward for the 5.5 screen. Also, phone call quality on this phone is something to desire. 1st phone I have owned where there is always some type of issue when I'm on a call. Luckily I don't use the phone for calls that much.
[Nexus 6P General] daryllh:
It's not a lame reason. I went from Moto X pure with great front stereo speakers to S7 Edge with horrible speakers).

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To each their own. Most reviews these days focus on real-world use. It's a change from 2-4 years ago.
[Nexus 6P General] Rippley05:
Still no wireless charging? Dang ..
[Nexus 6P General] panflute:
Nice to read the opinions here. I will probably not upgrade this year. Why: I love this phone. It is gorgeous. Great screen, great speakers, upgrade to N coming shortly. Not enough reasons to upgrade now. There would be little speed increase, better to wait for the 830 processor. In my opinion the 6p is still the best Android phone. Also, I pay $20 per month using Fi service.

Btw I got the Seidio case on ebay for $23...great case, best of the 5 cases I have.
[Nexus 6P General] StrizzMatik:
Indeed, ZTE has stated at this point it's a matter of when, not if. And on American versions of the phone the skin is almost completely stock Android 6.0.1.
[Nexus 6P General] MidnightDevil:
Of course not! I just got the 6P! lol

There is no reason, this phone is fantastic for at least another couple years! And I love it's big screen!
[Nexus 6P General] Southern_mind:
If it was an upgrade. But the 6p is such a great phone. Maybe for the wife
[Nexus 6P General] hello00:
I preordered the Alcatel Idol 4s. I think it is a better phone. Cant wait to have it in my hands
[Nexus 6P General] djboi2011:
So the earpiece on my 6p has gone bad, can barely hear whoever I'm talking to during a phone call. Also, the top speaker doesn't work during multimedia playback so I no longer can enjoy the benefits of having dual front facing speakers. Contacted huawei for a replacement/repair, but I would have to be without a phone for at least two weeks. Was contemplating getting the note 7 but I swore off getting a Samsung phone after my note 3. Can someone please talk some sense into me plz lol.
[Nexus 6P General] fast69mopar:
Don't ditch the 6P for a Samsung. Send the phone into Huawei for repairs. While your device is out for service, go buy a cheap POS device at any local electronics retailer and use it until your 6P is shipped back. I keep a cheap $30 device in my truck so if my Nexus takes a dump I at least have a working device with voice and LTE data. Don't torture yourself with TouchWiz. You know you will despise the Note 7 coming from Pure Android.
[Nexus 6P General] djboi2011:
I really don't want a cheap POS though :( even if it's for a while lol. First world problems right?
[Nexus 6P General] acts4:12:
I have been extremely happy with the 6p. I came to it from the Note 4. The battery life is decent, although admittedly a bit less than what I was expecting. The thing I really love about this phone though is the great developer community, great camera, and the front facing stereo speakers.

As many videos as I watch, it would be really hard for me to ever move to a bottom or rear firing single speaker ever again.

For that reason, I'll probably just keep rolling my 6p since it appears the new Nexus will just have the bottom firing one
[Nexus 6P General] wilflare:
I love my 6P. Based on what I've seen, I'm not really sold on Marlin.

What I really want is a 6P-2 (upgraded camera, Exoynos or Snapdragon 820 would be sufficient)
[Nexus 6P General] JasonJoel:
For me it is all about battery. If battery is better in the new one I'll buy it, if not I won't.
[Nexus 6P General] fast69mopar:
Talk about first world problems. It's just like having to drive a rental car while yours is at the body shop. I don't like using a cheap device when I have a high performance machine but if it has some engine problems it's gotta be repaired. Cheap crap device is better than no device. You'll survive. :silly:
[Nexus 6P General] LeoRex:
I'm not so that sold on dumping my 6P for the new one. Sure, it'll be a little faster, maybe a little better battery, etc, but I have no complaints about the 6P as is. Benchmarks aside, there really isn't much of a real world performance difference between this and my wife's 820 powered S7... And camera wise, while hers takes faster pictures, they are processed within an inch of its life.. she prefers the shots from my Nexus. It might be slower, but I haven't had problems missing pics because of that, and 6 months from now, when I look back at the pics, I am not going to care that it may have taken a few milliseconds longer to get it.

So I'm going to replace an awesome phone with another awesome phone?

Is an incremental upgrade enough to go through the hassle of selling my 6P and getting the Marlin? Never say never, but nothing I've seen so far pushes me in that direction.
[Nexus 6P General] Unknownkj:
Don't think I will be upgrading my Nexus anytime. Still quite satisfied with my 6p atm. It will probably cost more coming from HTC.
[Nexus 6P General] ps000000:
I hope the Nexus 2017 phone will not made by HTC.:silly:
[Nexus 6P General] riz157:
If it's anything like the HTC 10 then I will be very tempted. 5.5 is the min for me when it comes to screen size but I do hope it's bigger though 5.9.
[Nexus 6P General] Zaphon:
So $270 dollars more I get a smaller screen, non-front facing speakers, a slightly faster CPU (about the only thing I really want), 1GB of additional RAM, and not much else. I highly doubt that Qualcomm charges $270 more for the 821 then the 810 in quantity. So what the heck? Why would anyone upgrade?
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Even with the hardware improvements, how fast does the phone need to be? Realistically speaking, the Nexus 6p never really lagged even when under stress.
[Nexus 6P General] Zaphon:
When playing games I see occasional screen tearing, and not to mention temperature/battery life issues. I know the 810 was notoriously bad for this, which the 820 fixed (and the 821 is just a slightly faster 820). So for me it was more about the upgrade than the speed.