yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Right. 5.7 is the sweet spot. The lowest I will go.
[Nexus 6P General] borisb:
There are not a lot of phones out there that are 5.7 accept the Note.

However will you cough up the doe for that phone? I feel the 5.7 age is over.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Nope. 5.7 is here to stay and a lot of other phones will go that way I bet. Even the iPhone is 5.5. I bet we have more phones push the 6.0 envelope soon. And the Note 7 looks like an awesome phone. I might go that route. Who knows. I don't buy my phones outright, so it would be another 2 year plan for me. I know my wife will upgrade her Note 4 to the 7 when it comes out. She loves Samsung phones.
[Nexus 6P General] borisb:
That's an option.

But Samsung has its own issues.

Sounds like you are someone that loves to root and experiment and might not like the closed system policy Samsung has been cultivating.

I had the note 5 and I didn't like it. However I had the OP1 (5.5) and the size was perfect.

Sounds like you had some thinking to do.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Nope. My 6P is stock and not even rooted. No need to. Works great and I like stock. I had the Note 4 before the 6P and it's the one my wife is using now. Liked it, but the upgrade channel is so slow for Samsung devices or any other devices besides Nexus ones. I'm torn. I did like the S Pen though. But for now, my 6P is awesome and N Beta 5 seems to be working well so I'm good for now.
[Nexus 6P General] jpbl1976:
Not until I know what it will actually look like. That render on AP was horrible; from a 2D perspective, its rear resembled a circa-2011 Huawei pocket wi-fi pod.

Also, 5.5"? Disappointing. Basically every major device maker has a smartphone shipping with that size of display. Why can't Google stick to its guns and stick with a larger-than-average display like 5.7" or even 6"? Sammy and Google need to give the people what they want and produce a Note 7 running stock android and make that the 2016 Nexus. Except it isn't going to happen.
[Nexus 6P General] swiftden:
I hope they include Quick Charge 3.0, since it has SD 821. Type C 5V*3A is just slow to charge. Also, the screen. I miss the 6" of Nexus 6, and now they're making it smaller again, tsk.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I'd rather import the Mi Mix, a stunning looking phone with top specs not underclocked 821 all for a few hundred $ cheaper than the Pixel. The Pixel also has in hardware flaw in the camera causing halos. What a massive disappointment it is.
[Nexus 6P General] Atticustrd:
Used the pixel for two days great battery life saw 6 hrs sot on the first day. But other than that it's not a huge upgrade so I ended up returning it. I can wait for price drop. Just made me realize how good the Nexus 6p is.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
The only thing the pixel has over the 6P is the cooler(temperature) processor and 1Gb of RAM. Still doesn't constitute the price.
[Nexus 6P General] gregk232:
If anyone is on the fence about upgrading because of the loss of front facing speakers, check out the video I made where I compare my Nexus 6p to my Pixel XL using a Blue Yeti mic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg12X1OWG1M
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
The amount of hate going on here is astonishing. A bunch of people butthurt over the price. I don't think the days of cheap Nexus phones should be gone - it'd be nice if Google kept it around - but if Pixel is here to take its place, so be it. Plenty of other OEMs are releasing cheap flagship level phones now. The Pixel is a phone that finally competes at the top, and the asking price is in line with other flagships. Why should Google charge less just because the Nexus series cost less?

- This is the quickest Android phone I have ever used. It finally feels like it matches the swiftness of an iPhone. And it never slows down and hangs like my 6P would.

- The camera quality has slightly improved over the 6P, but the speed and autofocus are DRAMATICALLY better - this is a HUGE improvement.

- The display is noticeably brighter (without a kernel boost).

- The battery lasts longer than the 6P did.

- It could be my imagination, but the DAC/amp sound much better. My SE846's are fantastic with just the built-in EQ, something my 6P could never pull off. Needed V4A to sound decent.

- The chin is ugly, but you don't even notice it when you use the phone. It places the display at a great height for not having to do yoga with your finger.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It's all about worth. Is it really worth the $1000 it costs in my country for the 128 XL? Absolutely not.
[Nexus 6P General] nrage23:
It is worth what people will pay for it. Since it is almost impossible to get now apparently a lot of people are willing to pay for it. The best thing Google did was get HTC to build it. My 6p is a well built phone but it does not hold a candle to my Pixel XL. Google has always wanted a phone that was in the same class as the iphone and they hit it out of the park with the Pixel XL.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
You're living in a dream land if you think it's worth $1000. There's a lead time of a few days for it in the UK so it's definitely not selling in giant numbers. For $1000 I'd want every feature under the sun thrown in and the Pixel has, well......none!
[Nexus 6P General] ps000000:
No official warranty of Pixel in my country.

The imported XL 128's price = official iPhone 7 Plus 128.

:p
[Nexus 6P General] Solutions Etcetera:
Guy who made video is uninformed at best. Capsule in Yeti is forward facing and not top facing. Pointing the top of the mic at the phones would cause serious phase cancellation issues from dual speaker setup.
[Nexus 6P General] gregk232:
I had no idea, thanks.

But I will tell u that it really is an accurate representation of the volume difference
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
I have one, it is not worth it. Sorry but there's way too many people trying to justify the amount of money they paid for it. I almost returned it to my boss and told him to just give me half of the cost on my check and I'll be fine with that. It's a good phone, please understand that I believe that, but it is absolutely **** compared to other phones out there when you take into account what it does, and what they can and are doing. At least with others phones that cost that much, you actually get features. This is nothing but a Chrysler 300 with a Bentley price tag. Sorry but you guys can enjoy it, you might as well, actually you have to; you paid a guap for a phone!!!

I didn't even pay for the damn thing and I still don't think it's worth the price.

Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-xl-bill-of-materials-724542/
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
What features? You mean the gimmicks? How did people suddenly became Samsung fanboys, I don't get it!

Can't afford it? Don't buy it then, I didn't. But I wouldn't be able to afford it even if it were loaded with meaningless gimmicks. I want my phone to be what my phone is. I've tried all the "features" other companies use to legitimize their high prices, but the last phone I've bought new for a load of money was the Note 3. And it wasn't worth it for those "features". After a year I've used it with cyanogenmod, and it was just as good to use. And after that I've bought a Nexus 6, and it was just as good to use.

I'll never understand this collecting gimmicks fetish.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The Pixel does have one "exclusive" feature, lens flare!!!!
[Nexus 6P General] Johnny Wong:
I guess the question is would you buy it if it was purely a HTC product. I would guess no, but the Google brand and marketing played a number on people. In the end, Google will still lock down Android as much as they can so those with Pixel and want Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader will be like everybody else. You'll lose the pure Google experience and have to use all these hacks on your phones. Fine, but that takes away from the reason for paying the price tag.
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
So what exactly makes the iPhone worth its high asking price for all these years? It is the most popular phone ever, so clearly people don't mind paying a high price for a basic phone that works extremely well... which is exactly what the Pixel is.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Apples IPhone sales are falling and profits are lower than previous years, why? because people are being fed the same crap year in year out. Interestingly, Samsung with their newer, interesting design have seen sales rise. Google fans have always ridiculed Apple for their insane prices but now Google release the Pixel it's now ok?! The Pixel is a bog standard average phone with nothing to differentiate from every other phone out there yet they have it as the most expensive phone on the market(probably to pay for all the marketing) . Crazy!
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
I don't think you can definitively say that sales and profits are down for Apple, nor why.

You're right. Samsung does design some great looking phones and adds some pretty neat features. They are one of the few companies who innovate pretty well. But Samsung phones run slower than ****. They don't feel like a flagship device when you use them. It's ridiculous to pay that much money for a Samsung phone that runs slower than every other flagship on the market, and even Nexus phones released last year. I'm not talking raw performance, but day to day use. They put way too much garbage on their phones and slow them down, ruining user experience. They also seriously neglect getting updates out in a timely manner, and their UI is garbage.

The Pixel has none of these problems, and it's unlocked if you want to play around with it. If you want a phone that is so laden with features that it runs like a midrange device, and receives updates MONTHS behind schedule, be my guest. I've used Android since 1.0 and have had my hands on a lot of phones. The Pixel is the best Android phone for day to day usability ever created. It's that simple, and it's why it's worth the asking price - because there is no other phone like it.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Post matching...

1. Fanboy? What are we 12 now? "It's 2016 going on 17.":eek: Guess that makes me a Food Fanboy, Owning a house Fanboy, Living Fanboy, being married Fanboy, having a daughter Fanboy, etc...we get it.

2. I purchase things I can afford. Pixel XL was the only phone I didn't purchase, it was gifted to me.

3. I would rather have an spen that I actually used everyday for my job. Turn over to mute while in a meeting or at dinner, swipe palm to screenshot says it all, site scroll... recipes! I can go on and on.I can see that you called them gimmicks because you had no need for them, totally fine. To people such as myself they are actually useful tools. Sadly, the only "feature" the pixel phones have is the price tag and the assistant, which isn't even an assistant. Long ways away from Siri Google, long ways away.

4. sud·den·ly

adverb

quickly and unexpectedly.

5. Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd.[https://upload]

Formerly called

Samsung Electric Industries

Type

Public companyIndustryConsumer electronics

Semiconductors

Home appliancesFounded13*January 1969; 47 years ago*(as Samsung Electric Industries)

1988*(as Samsung Electronics)HeadquartersSuwon[1],*South Korea

Area served

Worldwide

6. I don't even like Samsung but they do make great devices. Need proof? Numbers don't lie, look up their sales records from the past. And right now unfortunately for them, exploding phones don't sell well.

7. The only company whose device I have ever actually liked without any regrets is Sony, and it was the XZU. Unfortunately for them, they also like to think they are Apple.

Addressing iPhone buying...

8. People in general are stupid about money. Even the ones that have a lot of money. Companies know what make people tick, that's why their marketing campaigns are designed the way they are. I've shown so many people all of the "features" they didn't even know their phone had. They buy things because it's the "in" thing to do, or someone they know is doing it too. It's the reason my wife's office which consists of 8 women, all went and got iPhones with the exception of my wife. Almost on a daily basis, someone tries to convince her to get one. That's how people work.

I'm done with this. This conversation is just like all the other ones I've seen on XDA. Everyone has their opinions about what is what, and at the end of the day, no one really gives a crap.

I would really like to encourage everyone not to buy the pixel or any phone priced at $700+ because it isn't worth spending all of that money, even if you are rich. However, at the end of the day, "it's your money, use it whenever and however you want to."

---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:15 PM ----------

The reports were released on Wednesday.
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
Whoa, whiplash!

In point 3. you list all the Samsung Note features that you liked in it, and to you they are "useful tools". Then you mock Google not having any of those. Well, they won't have them, because they are Samsung "useful tools". The other companies don't have neither as many, nor really matching with those. Obviously a Nexus is not for you, bar the lower price compared to the other flagships.

Then you say "I would really like to encourage everyone not to buy the pixel or any phone priced at $700+ because it isn't worth spending all of that money, even if you are rich.". Okay, so even it the Pixel was the carbon copy of a Note and had even a dozen more "useful tools" you wouldn't buy it? Would you buy your Note in retrospect?

Look, I understand, if somebody just hates it, but I've never seen anybody who could explain why it isn't worth that money.
[Nexus 6P General] Veidas:
I dont understand how this is even a discussion. Is pixel a good phone? Yes. Is it worth the price? Absolutely effing not. To all the people saying it is, do you really think nexus 6p with new snapdragon, faster hdr and talking assistant is worth 1000usd? If you think so, then sorry, but you are dellusional. I dont judge people who buy it, if money is not an issue to you, sure, enjoy yourself, but please lets stop lying to ourselves, 1000usd is more than overkill for what you get.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It isn't worth the money because it's a basic phone which has little or no features, has an inherent design flaw of lens flare and it has a boring, bland design. You can get a phone for half the price that will do much the same. There's no SD card slot, waterproofing, HDR display, always on display, wireless charging etc. Are quick updates and a smoother UI experience really worth the extra £200odd over an S7 or a (now dead) Note 7 or the extra £500 over a OP3? I'd say absolutely no but it's personal opinion at the end of the day. I could go out and buy a Pixel today but there's absolutely nothing for me in it to justify the price. For £550 yes I would've bought one but for £820,no way.
[Nexus 6P General] nrage23:
Same thing every year in the forums for each previous Nexus device. Some one starts a thread about are you going to buy the new phone. People with the old phone say it is not worth the money or is not an upgrade over the previous device. Then some one with the new device and old device talks about the new device being good. Then the person gets flamed to hell for saying anything good about the new device.

The Pixel XL is definitely an upgrade over the 6p. Is it worth the Price? The answer to that is subjective. Does not really matter I have both and I like both. In my opinion the Pixel XL is a much better phone stock. On stock the Pixel XL has better battery life and does not get hot. The camera takes pictures instantly the 6p does not.
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
It's not true. it has source code. it's the best feature.
[Nexus 6P General] Veidas:
No one is denying its a good phone, but you said it yourself, its basically nexus 6p with faster hdr, and sd821 (hence a bit faster and better power management). So for that 1000dollars is normal according to you? Lol
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
£820 for source code? Seriously?!
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
Hell no, not worth it. But neither was the N6 or the 6P. Next year.
[Nexus 6P General] nrage23:
I did not say it is a better 6p. I said it is a better phone. It is smaller and much more solidly built. My Quite Black Pixel XL also does scratch as easily as my Black 6p. Also it is not a $1,000.00. It is amazing that just because some one likes something you do not that that person has no idea what they are talking about. If you do not want the phone do not buy but do not flame people for what they choose to spend their money on.
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
Way to totally ignore everything I said that actually mattered lol.

Reviews keep coming out stating the Pixel is one of the best phones ever produced. And in a lot of ways, the best Android phone ever produced. People sit here and ***** about it costing nearly $1K, and that is if you pick the highest model with the highest storage. Pretty sure it starts at $649. Pretty sure T-Mobile is offering a $350 credit for customers on T-Mobile One. Pretty sure you can FINANCE the phone to $30~ a month, just like every other flagship available. Is anyone crying wolf at the price of other flagships? A bit, but nowhere near the level I am seeing here. Crying on the forum isn't going to lower the price. If it's too much for you, go buy a used phone or one of the cheap flagships of this year like a OP or Axon 7 and get most of the performance for 1/2 the cost. I can't tell you what a few hundred bucks is worth to you, but to me, the Pixel XL is worth every penny.

I sold 2 Nexus 6P's which mostly paid for this phone. When another phone comes out that I want, I'll resell this one too. Yeah, I lose a little bit of money, but that's how upgrading works. Keeping a phone for more than a year is unthinkable to me at this point.
[Nexus 6P General] Veidas:
You seem mad buddy, take a chill pill :). I didnt flame you, we are having a discussion, and this is a forum. You said pixel has faster camera and better battery life, hence my point about better 6p with snapdragon 821 and faster hdr. Pixel is smaller? Really? Well it is, but only because it has smaller display. Screen to body ratio is actually worse on pixel, and 6p has front facing stereo speakers lol. Okay, its 900 dollars, big difference :) Point about scratching is also kinda funny, since you just got pixel, you cant compare that yet. And it doesnt matter if its pixel, 6p, htc m8 or iphone, they all scratch equally, as long as its alluminium with paint.
[Nexus 6P General] nrage23:
My graphite 6p scratched the first day. The aluminum in the Pixel must be a harder grade since in the youtube video about the Pixel the guy who liked bending the 6p had a hard time scratching the Pixel. I think the 6p and Pixels are anodized aluminum and not painted.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It should be about getting what you pay for. Where on earth did Google get £820 for a 128gb XL? Oh yeah, it's exactly the same price as an IPhone! As I said before, we used to mock Apple for their prices and lack of features yet when Google does it, it's the best thing ever! The Pixel even has a design flaw!
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
That's what I say. Only I don't get it how come all the Nexus 6 and 6P users are so over their heads in cursing Google. Compared to the N4 and N5 both the N6 and 6P were way too expensive, more so if we consider the N6 camera, and the 6P's frailty.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Because it's almost double the price of a 6P for a small upgrade. There's also much better value phones out there for a much cheaper price. The Pixel smacks of Google ripping off the customer which they've not done on such a large scale before.
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
Well they didn't rip me off neither with the N6 nor with the 6P because I bought both after a year, and world just didn't end. I've only bought a phone once on the day of arrival, the Note 3 and that time it was almost 900 euros then. But I've kept it for two years, that 450 per year :D
[Nexus 6P General] Johnny Wong:
I would agree with that. To me, it looked like Google wiped the Nexus line off their portfolio to help justify their new pricing scheme. I tried to buy the official Nexus 6P case and noticed they've removed just about everything from their site about the Nexus line. I'm not going to hate on Google though, they are a business. But I personally don't care for their strategy and will look forward to the iPhone 8. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy using my Nexus.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
I have to side with them though. I think it's because now it's like, "wait, what happened to affordability." It really is a shock. The other thing is, the 6P original pricing upon release, people were probably thinking, "it's high, but I'll give you a little extra but any higher is way too far out there." Now the Pixel phones are priced so much higher in comparison to the 5X and 6P. That would be as if Ford suddenly decided to start the base price of the mustang GT at $60,000 just to compete with the Camaro(if Chevy was charging that much for it as well).
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Come March the 4k, bezeless S8 will be released and we'll be in 2017s phone release cycle. The Pixel XL will be down to £500 because it looks hellish and the hype has died down and DXO mark has announced the S8 as the "best phone camera ever!" and noone will pay the full price of the Pixel and we can all rest easy again (except those who bought it on day 1).
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Just saw 128 xl is back in Google store black only.
[Nexus 6P General] istperson:
Maybe, but I sure didn't. I was looking for something to replace my Note 3, and for a long time the 6P looked ideal, until it came out and the camera cover was just too strange, no SD card despite all the promises that Marshmallow will have native seamless external storage handling, and it was way too expensive, even the 32 GB model. There were no 64GB anywhere here, and if you did find one, it was unbelievably expensive. So I bought the N6, no overheating, and less than half the price.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
It was hard for me to let go of my Note 4. It really was the perfect Note for me. However other needs came into play that were way more important, so we switched to Project Fi and it's been great ever since. Got the Note 5 for work and I do like Samsung's extras but the software alone is not enough to sell a device to people, especially techie educated people.

I'll wait for the Pixel pricing to drop before I get one for my wife. I would like to see a 3rd party phone that could work on Project Fi for much less but that's a pipe dream.
[Nexus 6P General] mahdif62:
I will only upgrade if the battery life seriously improves. Have been using 6P and I love everything but the battery life.
[Nexus 6P General] simonhenry:
Yes, I'll definitely upgrade like I do every year.
[Nexus 6P General] DespairFactor:
I am getting one, because, you know...
[Nexus 6P General] kickenwing13:
I'm sure i'd get used to it and all and the fit in the hand would probably be better, but personally, I miss my nexus 6 in the size department. I hate that the extra size came from height instead up width. The N6 seems just so much better in my hand and size-wise to my eye.
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
Actually I think the 6P is a bit too large so the Marlin should be better in that department.

5.5 is probably the sweet spot for most users, IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] biscuitownz:
You do realize that by the time Marlin comes out it'll be almost winter lol
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I would like for once to keep a phone longer than 10 months -1 year :'(

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Technology moves at a fast pace!
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
Yes.

Skickat från min EVA-L09 via Tapatalk