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[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
So, I have read several threads and feel that a solution is there, but I just can't seem to find the detailed instructions on how to fix it. Apologies if I have missed it and you can direct me to that one.

I have tried the xperia companion software recovery and the software update two different times. Both times they said it was successful. However, the watch would still get stuck on the 4 symbols or dots.

I tried doing the factory reset on the watch itself, but that did not help the booting process.

When I press the recovery, I get the android guy laying down with a red exclamation mark in a red triangle.

It appears that fixing it can not be done on win 10, but I do have access to a pc with ubuntu/linux that I have used.

Since I'm getting the red triangle, I'm guessing the OS is corrupt.

Any detailed instructions or pointing me to a proper thread would be appreciated.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
That's a bootloop.

In recovery: swipe the guy away (from top to bottom works best). Then you should see the menu.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Hey, thanks. So, I see the menu. I did the wipe data factory refresh and still nothing except the 4 symbols grinding away.

So, is see a "mount" option. I'm guessing that is where the watch is then mounted as a drive to a pc where where one could have files transferred from the pc to the watch. Would that be the next step or do I need to perform the partition option on the watch?

Sorry, I just am trying to get detailed instructions. BTW, I did notice that the OS is 6.0.1. I have read that many have downgraded to 5.1.1 as it may have been better for gps and battery life. Also, that is when this watch crashed was during the update.

Any detailed instructions from here would be greatly appreciated...again. Thanks
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
When a factory reset doesn't help it, the easiest way is the "repair" option in Xperia Companion. Basically it downloads the complete firmware (200-250MB) and flashes all the partitions. Very much like a factory image for a Nexus.

I don't know what mount actually does.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Thanks. As mentioned in the original post, that was tried...now three times to no avail. I did both options in the repair area of xperia. So, I'm guessing there is a more serious hardware issue or I need to somehow use something other than the xperia companion to remedy the situation. I had also tried the update again and it said it was successful, but there was not difference in the behavior of the watch...just the 4 dots/symbols going on forever.

I'm willing to root the device, but I just have not seen or probably better stated, understood how to do it. I am sort of a newbie and thus need detailed instructions. If the watch is bricked after that, then so be it. It is not doing any good right now anyways. Can some even point me to such a thing or help in writing it down?

Perhaps a stupid question, but after doing the repair thru xperia, I let it sit and grind for a good 20 minutes. I presume that is ample time for it to repair itself. Is that reasonable?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
Repair is not the same as update in XC.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Thanks. Agree which is why I mentioned both the repair and the update were done on the watch and of course separately on XC.

So, basically, I have tried every option in xperian companion (repair and update) and the factory reset, clear cache and the partition option that come up on the watch itself. So, my next thougt was the to root it and try either downgrading the os or repairing in thru the root process. If someone could provide either a link or help with very detailed directions (for the complete idiot:p) on how to root it with that idea of replacing or repairing the os, that would be very much appreciated.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
That wasn't so clear for me.

You can install this (Lollipop):

http://xdaforums.com/smartwatch-3/orig-development/rom-sony-smartwatch-3-rom-t3367728

or this (Marshmallow):

http://xdaforums.com/smartwatch-3/orig-development/sony-smartwatch-3-marshmallow-mec24h-t3382450

In Ubuntu you install fastboot this way:

sudo apt-get install android-tools-fastboot

You may want to create an udev rule, so that a normal user can access the watch in fastboot mode:

https://ranf.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/ubuntu-udev-rule-for-sony-smartwatch-3-swr50/

Otherwise you have to run fastboot with sudo.

I'd start with formatting cache and userdata:

1. get into recovery

2. from there get into fastboot (maybe it is called bootloader here, can't remember)

3. check connection

fastboot devices -l

4. format

fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
fastboot reboot

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Can you post a photo of that?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Thank you. And, sorry for the senior memory moment. I could not remember if it was recovery or repair in XC. Anyway, I think it is fair to say that I have tried every "canned" option in either XC or on the watch for recovery, repair and update to no avail.

Nice and thanks for the coding. I will also take a hard look at the links to see if I can proceed. When I fixed my HP Touchpad, there was a nice little toolbox that one could use to easily do a complete data reset, then load the three files and it would do the rest. That was all done in Ubuntu.

I'll report back once I get going.

Is it fair to say that as long as you do not mess with the bootloader, that you cannot brick the watch? After reading 12 or 13 threads, that seemed to be one of the comments. I did look at all the thread titles...17 pages to try and find things that were similar and they pointed to what we have already discussed in using XC, etc. So, I'll try another way that is outlined above.

I have attached the picture of the android guy with exclamation mark. Hopefully you will be able to see it.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
Yes please do so.

You can play a lot with the watch without bricking. Doesn't mean it's impossible.

A bit small but that's just the recovery droid?

To me that means more like "proceed with caution" than denoting a serious error condition.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
So, in the "previewing of my response or comments based on the instructions, it looks like I did not do the "multi-quote" correctly. I hope you can decipher what I said, as I have commented on the steps so far in your comment back to me and what I was able to do and not do at this point. I would appreciate any help you can further offer.

I went thru the whole process again or at least starting with the command "sudo -s". I got thru it all except when I tried to install the rom file with the signature check box checked, it failed. The first time I did it, I did not check the box, but when rebooting as noted above is just cycled thru twice then went to the android recovery guy.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
"vim" is an editor. You can use any other (like nano or even gedit).

with "fastboot devices -l" you either get "offline" which means the udev rule doesn't work,

or you get an output starting with fastboot.

Most likely much easier:

sudo -s
fastboot devices -l
fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
fastboot reboot
exit
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
OK, so not sure what the editor comment fix is, but I'll look into that later.

So, as mentioned I was able to get fastboot on the pc. However, the first time I entered "fastboot devices -1", it said waiting for device.

This morning when I read your new message, I did the sudo command to get fastboot again on the pc (I had already got the watch "running fastboot" per its screen), then entered "fastboot devices -1", and I get "invalid option -- '1'.

Also, after entering the first command "sudo -s", the next command line changed with the first word "root" and the end on the command line changed from ":~$" to ":~#".
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
That's a lowercase L (for longer output).
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
I got vim working or at least loaded.

Yep, was using number 1 instead of small letter l. Thanks.

I ran thru the commands and on the writing cache at the end, it said "Failed (remote: Device locked)" . The same failure message was on the userdata command at the end. What should I do next

Edit: I found where you have to start with command "fastboot oem unlock" and enter it twice. Now I was able to wipe cache and userdata.

After performing the above fastboot commands and disconnecting watch. I powered up the watch and it is still cycling thru or stuck on the 4 dots or symbols. Sooooo,

I hate to keep asking, but is it correct to say I now need to repair/replace/update the OS? And if so, I'm not sure exactly how to do that. Can you advse?

Here I think are the next steps: (this was copied from your link above for MM)

Quote:

Installation:

Put ROM to your virtual SDCard

I don't know how to do this first step. Can you advise?

Boot into TWRP recovery

I don't know how to put TWRP on the watch unless it is part of the first step. Can you advise?

Select "Install", and choose ROM zip file

This appears easy after the step 1 and 2 above are complete.

After installation completed- reboot watch

If necessary - make full wipe

Quote:

Downloads

MWD49B

How would I know this is my watch? I have seen several different ones for the SW3.

I have downloaded all of the below files, but there are two that are similar. One is 4 cores and the other is for 2 cores. Do you know which one I should use or what the differences would be?

SWR50_6.0.1_MWD49B.zip v3

MEC24H

SWR50_6.0.1_MEC24H v2 (4 cores version)

SWR50_6.0.1_MEC24H v2 (2 cores version)

Recovery

TWRP recovery
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
1. boot TWRP: if it is a .zip unzip it. If it already is an .img file proceed.

2. sudo fastboot boot twrp.img

We don't install, only boot into it temporarily.

3. I usually see a new Nautilus (ubu filemanager) window pop up on my Ubuntu box (because MTP is enabled in TWRP)

4. you could now drag and drop the ROM.zip you want into that window.

5. now on the watch in TWRP select install

MWDxx MECxx are the build numbers. MWDxx being the newest.

2 or 4 cores doesn't make much of difference. The stock Sony kernel disables 2 cores (for powersaving reasons I suppose).

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You ran a root shell. The prompt shows this with a #.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Again, thank you for being very patient with some very basic questions. Ok, so I think I'm getting close. However, here are more basic questions before proceeding.

1. The watch has been disconnected since the previous steps where I wiped cache and userdata and exited fastboot. I also used XC to see if it would repair and update. To my surprise, now both of those functions failed. Do I need to start all over with the "sudo -s" command and proceed to make sure? If not, where would I start?

2. What status is the watch in when I do your #2 instruction? Is it in the connect usb screen or in fastboot. I'm guessing fastboot.

3. The file I have downloaded is the img file. On your #2 instruction, in Ubuntu, where should the img file be located when I enter "sudo fastboot boot twrp.img". I'm guessing the desktop, but wanted to make sure.

4. After your step #4 of dragging the file, do I need to exit out of Linux fastboot, then disconnect the watch, then power down then up the watch to see "install" in TWRP?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
2. yes "fastboot running"

3. my Downloads land in ~/Downloads.

just run

cd
cd Downloads

to go there and fastboot boot from there. If it's in ~/Desktop well then go there.

4. stay in TWRP
[Sony Smartwatch 3] golfnut22:
Twrp screen is on the watch.

However,on the pc, I did not get the new file manager to place the new rom zip file. So, I'm not sure where or how to get the zipped file in the "install" folder. Any ideas? Thanks.

With TWRP visibly on the watch now, at the same time, can I use the command in ubuntu "sudo adb sideload <rom.zip>? I've been trying to find ways to get the rom.zip file in the watch...although I have not tried anything yet.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
Ideas? Always.

AFAIK you can adb into a running TWRP.

Try this:

sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb
adb devices -l
# if you "see" your watch
adb push ROMfilename.zip /sdcard/

Oh BTW: what's your Ubuntu version?

lsb_release -a

is telling you that.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Here are the Marshmallow Update 6.0.1 issues I have so far on my T-Mobile Note 4 (just updated today):

1) Random Reboot

2) Amazon app issues

3) Can't open txt. files

4) Can't reset the Default app to open up PDF files

5) Lag

6) Apps suddenly quitting

7) Increased battery drain
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aznmode:
I had random reboots, lags, and app freezing. Had to factory reset and all is good. It's been about a week.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
I might give Factory Reset a try, but not yet. I need to make sure that I have everything backed up correctly.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DeeXii:
It is 100% caused by not doing a clean update / install.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Would a Factory Reset fix the excessive battery drain issue ?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MIOB91:
I just updated and the only issue I'm having is reaaaallly slow LTE. It's painfully slow. I've tested it several times and its not even going over 1Mbps sometimes it jumpa a bit more but it always goes down.

Any ideas what that could be?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
My T-Mobile Internet connection has always been very slow. Charter WiFi at home is great. Here is an image showing my Internet connection on my Note 4:

[IMG="Ookla Speed Test"]http://s135.photobucket.com/user/vja4Him/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-07-11-16-14-48-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0[/IMG]

Why is my image not displayed ... ?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alwashere09:
A lot of my problems came from restoring apps from old versions. After some digging, it turns out I was carrying old Titanium backups from 3 different phones. Cleared the old/ non-compatible apps and no problems since.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DeeXii:
Ideally its best to at least factory restore wipe.

However, I personally always do the following on new ROMs and new Android versions.

-Backup things you want from your internal storage

-Make sure you have a Tar of the version you want. (and Odin of course)

-Flash TWRP if you don't already have it flashed

-Boot into TWRP

-Wipe System, Data, Internal Storage, Dalvik, and Cache

(once you do this your phone wont boot as there is no OS installed on the phone)

-Boot into Download

-Use Odin to flash the Stock FW tar file you want.

Doing this method will ensure you have a 100% clean install of the new Android version and/or ROMS

It can be a pain to do all this because you have to set everything back up.

However, I have seen this resolve so many problems at this point I personally feel this is a must.

Too many people are out there saying A Rom, a new Kernel, or a new version of Stock has this problem or that problem with out actually going clean stock. Have some problems with MM, a ROM, or a Kernel?

Do this!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Well, I finally gave in and did the Factory Reset. I need to charage my Note 4 up to 100% and see how many hours I get from my ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery now .....

Still have the issue with Default apps settings ......
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] drdoombot:
I followed this step-by-step down to the letter and have not been able to solve the problem of apps losing their updates after reboot. I've actually tried this twice already and I'm now in the process of downgrading to 5.1.1. :(
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DeeXii:
Something isn't right here.

It is in your best interest to find out what went wrong.

It seems that 5.1.1 and below is known be conceptually a horrible version of Android (at least for our phone).

The several things including memory management have vastly improved on MM.

Please feel free to PM me and perhaps we can chat via some chat medium to get this resolved.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Desktop_Rodent:
Make sure you are using the proper APN for your carrier.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Lollipop was much better on my Note 4. Although my Note 4 still had problems with excess battery drain, but I could still put my Note 4 through constant heavy use for over 14 hours and come home with battery power still remaining.

My Note 3 does much better with battery management. I have the same ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery in both Note 3 and Note 4. I have been using the ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery in my Note 3 for more than two years, and still get much better battery life than my Note 4 with a brand new ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery.

I tried using the stock battery in my Note 4, and only got 4 1/2 hours, but would have gotten much less if I had been out gaming at night. Probably would have gotten only 2 or 2 1/2 hours.

I might take my Note 4 to Best Buy and have them do a Software Reflash ..... If the Note 7 had a removable battery, I would definitely get the Note 7.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] blindskater39:
I guess I am one of the lucky ones who did a dirty update with no bugs :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Interesting ..... With each update some people have serious issues, some people only have minor issues, and some people even claim they have no issues.

For me, Lollipop was good, but the most stable was KitKat. My Note 3 is still at Lollipop 5.0, with only minor issues. Great battery life with my Note 3. Battery life is seriously damaged on my Note 4. If I do not get an update that fixes this issue, I will be forced to buy a different smartphone that has a removable battery, and compatible with ZeroLemon 10000mAh extended battery .....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dn3g3l:
my biggest issue with marshmallow is that everytime i send texts, my phone lags really bad. everything else works perfectly, but the stock messaging app lags when i'm sending texts even if it's just 1 regular text. it also lags when i'm receiving a lot. no issue with this from lollipop. clean install and even factory reset after installing, same thing
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
So far, I am not having any issues with Text Messaging.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
Well, I just ran into another Marshmallow bug .... I can no longer save my Docs To Go files on my SD card. Error tells me that I do not have permission. I followed the instructions to give permission, but it doesn't work. So, I'm stuck with saving files to the phone first, then I have to copy the files to the SD card. I did not have this issue with Lollipop.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vicariouscheese:
Is there any way to add a mobile data toggle to stock rooted mm? I liked how maximum overdrive has it, but have been having some issues so trying to fully debloat stock now.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sloanster:
HI had a problem with gallery force closing so.. finally got around to doing a clean install,

Now no force close but... Gallery sometimes don't see the pictures! reboot the phone clears it up then same problem!

It's as if the SD card is unreadable...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] j21098:
I'm having problems with the video player, after a while trying to use the browser to watch videos the videos won't load anymore. It'll just be a black screen and if you try to touch anything it'll just freeze the phone. Pressing the home button will take you back to home but even if you force close the video player app and clear data it'll freeze on any video I try to watch. Even the ones from my gallery. The only way to fix it is a reboot, but then it happens again after a while. I've already factory reset 3 times and still have the problem.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Tamour01:
Partition on my note 4 is gone now it is showing whole of 32 gb, I factory reset my cell and after going smooth for 1 hour it started rebooting randomly along with lagging and freezing. i am very much frustrated. Guys need your help pleae
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] whitenote4:
I did full reset using recovery. It was ok for a while but then after 2 days it started again... Random reboots, freeze.

Really sick of marshmallow update, lollipop was much much better and stable
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ashu66:
I am having same problem except that i did not do full reset yet.. Frequent reboot, freeze are the main issue. It made my phone unusable. Is that any way to go back to 5.0.1? it was smooth at that time.

I wipe the cache from storage and from recovery but it is smooth for couple of hrs and then back to issues.. Guys, anyone have any solution for this, please do share.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
I am having so many issues with Marshmallow ... I need to type up a list .... I have had problems with GPS, but not serious, still annoying, especially when playing Ingress, which requires GPS.

I'm also having problems with Bluetooth .... Although I have always had problems with Bluetooth on both my Note 3 (for almost three years now) and my Note 4. I keep losing Bluetooth connection to all of my Bluetooth devices: Logitech keyboard, mouse, FAVI mini-keyboard, Rii i8 mini-keyboard, LuguLake speakers (I have two sets, problems with both), Gear S, Omron Blood Pressure Monitor, Samsung Level U Pro earbuds, Bludio headphones ...... So, obviously there is a serious Bluetooth problem with Samsung smartphones ......
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] whitenote4:
I m contemplating flashing stock marshmallow t-mobile rom on my note 4 using Odin or some other method but I m not really familiar with the process.

I had read flashing a rom will trip Knox protection or may be interfere in OTA'S

Kinda confused :mad:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Knee Pads:
Same here. I have gps signal losses too. This n910t3 gps was working flawless with lollipop, but now the GPS is total crap
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
This morning I woke up to another Marshmallow Bug ..... I lost all of my Facebook Messages in Messenger with one of my friends. I checked Google Chrome, same thing, all of our messages in Facebook are gone. But, my friend can see all of our messages on his phone.

I tried uninstalling Messenger, shut down phone, did Wipe Cache Partition, reboot, reinstall Messenger, still all of our messages in Facebook are gone.

When I checked Messenger on my Note 3, which is running Lollipop 5.0, I can see all of my Facebook messages.

So, I know this is a Marshmallow Bug. I called Samsung, and as usual, there is nothing they can do. Anyone have this issue with Facebook Messenger ... ?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
What rom are you having issues on?

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@ Vja and white note how did you guys find out about the forum? I think maybe you guys should be speaking more directly to tmobile. I know they have a forum linked to their website. I'd advise you to post your questions there.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aznmode:
I have the same issue. Quite annoying really. Factory reset did not help either with me.

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I have a feeling you don't have a lot of messages you keep? This might have something to do with it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Knee Pads:
Both stock rom and overdrive MM
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vja4Him:
I have over 5,000 (that is five thousand) text messages.