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[Mogul, XV6800 General] nooganator:
Ok a couple of Qs:

I have everything working except for the scroll wheel. Are anyone elses directional arrows kind of backwards? like right is down and left is up. up and down are left and right.

Also this sounds stupid and newnish. I have been following this thread and the vogue thread alot the last few days. I have an AndroidApps folder in the root of my CD card, but still cant access any of the .apks in them. How do I get to them? Ive downloaded a couple of apps like weather app for android and they seem to work fine when i DL them.

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
The arrows on a keyboard.

Mount data.img on your PC, and copy those .apks to the apps folder. Don't forget to check permissions.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ilovethisplace:
The Android Market is /system/app/vending.apk in this: http://rapidshare.com/files/155612986/Android_dump.rar
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Damionix:
Some Issues with This Great OS

First let me say that I am super impressed with the progress everyone who has worked on this has done and I humbly take off my hat to all of you as a sign of respect and Graditude.

Here are some of the issues I have faced thus far,

Sound: It works for every other application like incoming call,text recieved,notification but not the music player.

File Explorer: I have used some good file explorers to browse my files but I cant seem to be able to launch any .apk file from within it. The app just crashes. Anyone knows a good File explorer that can open .apk files?

Applications: I have successfully copied and put all my .apk files onto the required folder in the SD card.

But not all of them show up. Youtube, Market, do not show up.

Calendar crashes

IM only has google talk and will not even open when I click on it.

Amazon works fine.

Is there anything I am missing? Am doing something wrong? Please do point them out to me. As I am learning along the way.

Been Running it on my Mogul for 2 straight days now, no crashes what so ever.

Written from OperaMini 4.2 on My Mogul/Linuz Wip :]
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Sound works well for me in every application, and, of cource, in Music player. Maybe you set mute? Or very low volume? Because media and ring volumes are separate.

As for Market and other apps not working - maybe. That's because our version is from SDK, and not from real G1.

To make calendar work login into google in Dev Settings, it will work ok.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Damionix:
Thanx for the Reply

I did get sound and calendar working fine now. I am not worried about the android market. Just the IM, if I could get that to work and show Yahoo! I will be fine.

But so far this is great, I love it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] daggerblade:
Day 3

So no crashes so far whats so ever under any condition.

Can not save contacts to contact area.

Volume turned up all the way still not as loud as on WM6.1.

NO CRASHES! (YAY)

Text is too large for buttons.

Anyway way to resize some things?

I can program basic things in Visual,C,C+, C++ C# and some python so if you have some basic stuff that you dont have time to do i can lend a hand if i qualify.

Oh, is there anyway to rip the G1s OS and not work from the SDK?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Explain what's wrong with contacts?

Volume will be louder in a next build.

To resize something you need to fix .xml files. Just unpack any .apk (it's just a zip archive) and you'll see them in a res/layout folder.

However they are encoded/compressed, and I do not know how to decode them.

And about 'basic stuff'... well, my programming expierence maybe even less than yours, this project is a first C project for me :)

So, if you can, I'll be glad if you will help me with kernel.

My ICQ is in profile, mail is misha-cn-ua<__at__>ya.ru

About G1 rip - it actually exists, I am going to try running it...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Mylt1:
you guys are doing a great job. finally got linux to run on my 6800 but several things dont work as they should and most have been talked about. but i have a question. since HTC make the G1 for TMO why cant we just email them and ask them to make the same program work 100% for the 6800? im sure if they had enough interest they would at least look into it. they have the people to get it done and have it up and running for us 100%. just a thought. i think i will at least seen them an email and ask what it would take for them to at least look into it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Mylt1:
well i have to say, HTC's tech support is quick to respond.

looks like unless vzn, sprint, or at&t request the 6800 with linux/android we are on our own. wish i had a programming background. i have nothing but time at work and this could be something i could work on all day long most days. well, it was worth a shot.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Eirikr88:
So i got it booting and i like it. Few questions

I know contact sync can happen with your gmail account. perhaps im missing the method of how to login with dev tools. i see mail, then sip and other various options, any light to shed on this.

question two is the .img files. you say to just ad the .apks to the data.img. What program are you mounting and editing the .img files with, because i am lost lol. All help is appreciated :D
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Contact sync does not work in this version.

And about data.img. You need a linux PC.

su
mkdir /mnt/tmp
mount -o loop data.img /mnt/tmp

Copy all apk's you need into /mnt/tmp/app, then:

umount /mnt/tmp
rm -r /mnt/tmp
[Mogul, XV6800 General] lsdlsdlsdlsd:
So, I still can't get it to work. I read the reply about cramfs, but that doesn't really fix my problem.

I downloaded the package from http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/ , but there's no haret.exe in it, so I used the one from http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

If I have to apply the patch also linked on that page, what do I use to patch it?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
That haret.exe should work with no modifications.

You need only haret.exe and my package, that's all.

What's on your screen when you try to boot?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] lsdlsdlsdlsd:
It loads up the Tux logo, and starts the linux boot process and dies with the exact same error I had before:

mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: invalid argument
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Recheck that you are using latest kernel and initrd.

Are you getting root promt? If yes, try to mount card by hand.

Show the dmesg output to see what's wrong
[Mogul, XV6800 General] aaron580:
screen

For some reason my screen wont respond to touch with this new update. Anybody else experience this issue?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ilovethisplace:
Has anyone tried the mini-USB headset audio? It's just going to speaker for me.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] lsdlsdlsdlsd:
I did a fresh unzip of all the files from your zip and the haret from the site I linked.

After mounting it by hand i get this, barring the timestamps:

attempt to access beyond end of device

mmcblk0p1 rw=0 want=4, limit=2

EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock

attempt to access beyond end of device

mmcblk0p1 rw=0 want=4, limit=2

EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock

FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: invalid argument

dmesg just print out the same
[Mogul, XV6800 General] julienrl:
stays stuck at android screen

I just updated my files and for some reason the whole thing boots but I stay stuck at the black "Android" page with the green robot.

Anyone else have this problem?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ProgrammerByGrace:
I had that occur once when I powered off in the boot sequence (at least I think that's what happened)

After a soft reset it booted up fine.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] ProgrammerByGrace:
Note: The harret version on the vogue site if you don't download the whole android zip is actually and older harret executable. You can get the latest from:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET

I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with your problem. I'm just pointing it out.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Hm...

What filesystem is your card formatted in? Try to reformat it to FAT32 or FAT
[Mogul, XV6800 General] celsius0010:
Two questions..

After exiting Android by doing a soft reset most of the time my phone goes into bootloader mode. And I have to keep soft reseting 6-20 times to get windows to come back up. I have never seen anyone else report this problem. I am running JD 2.9.1, is that an issue with the rom, android, or my hardware. It is really annoying (and a lil scary) so I may hold out until I get that figured out. Does anyone have any ideas... my phone did it once a while ago on win 6.1 but it was easier to get out of...

and secondly what apps work and which ones are you guys using on Android... and to get the apps going all you do is put the .apk files in a folder named AndroidApps in the root of the storage card right...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Never seen that... I have SPL-2.40.Olipro and a custom ROM build from PPCKitchen, and there was no such issues at all. That maybe a ROM or SPL issues...

Yes.

I using Opera Mini 4.2, stardart dialer and Music Player - that's all :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] celsius0010:
I have olipro 2.40 as well... Is there anyway to update that without losing my whole configuration?? Imma go over to JD's thread and see if they have any ideas

Thanks DZO and Magister.. you guys really have this thing then?? I remember people doing that a while ago because the vogue has a faster shutter speed so the pics are clearer.. but no flash.. Just a thought
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Sorry, no idea how to help you... :(
[Mogul, XV6800 General] celsius0010:
where did u find oprea mini 4.2 and are the instructions any different... and where did u find any other apps u guys are using.. and if anyone really wants the camera try and install the vogue camera on the mogul first...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] emeraldayotte:
running android full time??

Is anyone trying to run this as a fulltime OS replacement? Or just using it for wow factor?

I ask this because I think this version is still better than default winmo and would run it permanently BUT the hardware buttons stay lit even with the screen off. So I'm worried about battery drain during the day.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Opera Mini is at http://labs.opera.com/news/2008/04/10/

Vogue's camera do not work AFAIK.

Don't worry about hardware buttons :)

The only thing is a panel power off - it's not working for now, so battery life will be bad...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Baryn:
Is anyone else having issues with hibernate? Like a concussion, once it goes to sleep, it never wakes up...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] emeraldayotte:
Thanks anyway for all your hard work on this. Hopefully Sprint will release something similar to the HTC Touch HD running Android. Android is MUCH better than Windows Mobile!!!

Hopefully the next release of this port will take care of the battery drain issue.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] celsius0010:
thanks it works great.. much faster than the android browser.. now is there a way to close out programs.. because i noticed if u hold down the voice notes button a window pops up with all of the apps u are using in it.. its gd for going back and forth between apps.. and if u guys could list the apps that are of decent quality that would be good for every one i got a few ok ones ill have to put another post of all the apps when i get home..
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Either update radio to 3.42.50 or set pm.sleep_mode=3 in your default.txt

That list shows recent apps, not running :)

Actually there is no "close" function in Android. Apps are closed only when there is no enough memory, and then are started at the same state they were closed. So, from the user side, there is no difference between running and closed application, the only difference is application opening time.

However, not all applications support this - for example, Opera Mini cannot save/restore state, so when it is closed and started, it shows a start page instead of last open.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] detroitpro:
replace - code

I use it as a full OS replacement...then again I set in front of a PC all day...

@Magister2k7 - Can you point me to a post or (please) write a short little "getting started" post for those (me) that would like to help?

Thanks for all the work so far!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] kwhitworth:
Andriod Store / Apps

Been following this thread for some time. I have Android versions loaded on my phone fairly successfully thanks to everyone's hard work!

One question--has anyone had success with the android app store? I've tried, but I guess it doesn't recognize the phone as an android phone.

I've loaded one android app on the phone from another website, but it doesn't seem to work very well (WeatherBug). Any ideas?

Thanks again to everyone's hard work! This is almost an everyday usable system!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mpenguin14:
I just wanted to chime in for a few things

1 - thanks to Magister2k7 for his work, the vogue packages were nice, but hese titan packages are a lot nicer

2 - I too would be very interested in using the market on the titan, but I understand that it is up to google to open up the market

3 - if people are looking for apps to download I just posted a new build of my first android app over in the dream app forum I developed it in the sdk emulator and tested it on my titan using the latest files from Magister2k7 Any feedback is appreciated
[Mogul, XV6800 General] NipsMSU:
Touch Screen Still Not Functioning

I've been going over the stuff here for a couple of days, hoping to find a way to get Android onto my Alltel HTC-6800. I can get through the HaRET boot without any issues at all, and Android seems to work incredibly well--except for the fact that the touch screen does not work at all.

I downloaded the files from Magister's site (http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/), and I downloaded HaRET from http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET .

I have tried everything possible at my disposal. I tried swapping various files in and out from the Vogue release, which also did not work. No different version of HaRET would work properly. I manually extracted the .gzs and renamed the contents as .img (and obviously tried this without doing that, as well). I have tried formatting my (non-SDHC) 2GB card in both FAT32 and in FAT. I have tried this as the first thing after a hard reset, and I even tried both with and without Alltel's 'customization' that occurs after a hard reset. I have done all of these things both in Windows XP and in Ubuntu.

No matter what I do, Android boots up fine, but no touch screen support. I haven't noticed any specific mention of the 6800 or Alltel as a carrier. Oh, I am also using an official ROM, but I am definitely using the latest (REV A, newest radio). Do I need a cooked ROM? Considering that this is the fourth phone I have gone through, due to junk hardware in the other three, I wanted to avoid any custom bootloaders, in the event that I have to return this one (God forbid).

So, I hate to be 'that guy,' but I have been over this up and down several times and done everything that I could imagine doing... any suggestions? It doesn't look like anyone else is having touch screen issues still, so is it just me?

And hey, even though this hasn't worked out for me so far, you guys are doing something amazing here. Keep up the great work, Magister.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Yes, looks like only you has touchscreen problems...

Is keyboard works? When you boot, press "Win" key to unlock and try to slide keyboard, pressing buttons - that should work ok.

And one more - touchscreen is not very sensitive in my build (it Vogue's it's more sensitive), so maybe just press a bit harder? (but be careful not to brick your screen!)

btw, touchscreen will work only when keyboard unlocked with "Win" button (or "Ok" on a keyboard with Vogue's build)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] NipsMSU:
Still nothing...

Yeah, the keyboard works just fine, and I can use it to navigate Android pretty well, though it is certainly confusing that the arrow keys are all wrong by one space clockwise :) QWERTY lines up fine, and there are no issues as far as I can tell with it.

I've been poking at my screen pretty hard, and it doesn't seem to respond in the least. I have tried every area of the screen, thinking that the calibration might be way off on mine for some reason, but none of it works.

Oh, and it the screen is definitely unlocked. It took me a little bit to figure out what buttons did what, but I think I've gotten it down pretty well. I'm in IT at my university so, by nature, I have gone through most of the troubleshooting that I could ever even imagine. Still, I feel like maybe I am missing something...

Also: I got the phone three days ago through the Exchange by Mail program because I had some hardware issues with the one before. I am sure that it is refurbished. Maybe HTC messed it up somehow? It's hard to say, but it runs so very much better than my first one.

Still, very confused; thanks for the help :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] xhorntail:
I have the same problem, completely non-resposive touchscreen. I was gonna just wait and see what happens with future releases, but since someone else mentioned it, I figured I'd post and let everyone know this seems to be an issue.

My phone is also a warranty replaced refurb, which is interesting. The screen has worked on older versions though, that's also worth mentioning.

Also, I can code fairly well, and if someone who knows their way around wants to spend a couple hours one on one with me getting my environment set up, and acquanting me with the linux structure, I would love to help a bit. My background is robotics and web developement, i've never had to code in linux. I'd get some books and learn, but i'm kind of busy these days, so a mentor would be best. Just add me on MSN. xhorntail@hotmail.com.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] NipsMSU:
Update

It turns out that if I press my screen incredibly, incredibly hard (to the point that I am afraid the crystals are about to break), there are a few places on the screen that DO register button presses. Not everywhere seems like I can press there, and the edges are easiest because you can just pinch the screen when it is flipped open. I also have to press so hard that I am pretty sure repeated use would damage the screen.

So, I am assuming that HTC probably had problems with this screen before, refurbished it, and sent it to me. Is there any way to raise the sensitivity in a case like this?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] bl4ck0ps:
Settings

I can't get into the setting menu...it keeps giving me "process com.android.setting has stopped unexpectedly"

Any idea would be greatly appreciated.

One thing to note, I have the CDMA Sprint version of the Mogul but it is not an active handset (no network connection, my old device) would that make a difference?

I've got most other stuff working....thanks again for all you work. Very awesome!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Magister2k7:
Maybe you have corrupted data.img? Try to delete it (!!! it will delete all settings !!!) and start with a new one.

Hm... for now I ignore light touches, as they are giving unstable coordinates on my device. So, you need to remove that filter. And I have some ideas how to make touchscreen better, but have no time... maybe you can do that? :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] FireSlash:
How much bandwidth are you burning?

I've got at least 150gb per month that I'm not burning (usually closer to 195gb), so if you need some spare, let me know :)

I've noticed a few random hard locks running on my sprint Titan (One of the first few out, I was on the pre-order list, and have the original 'Pocket PC' lettering), so that might have something to do with it?

Also, the power save features need some love, and while togga can pull an IP, I can't seem to get it to transfer any data.

I might try to steal the default.txt from the vogue build, as the sprint vogue I was testing worked flawlessly out of box.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcordes:
Magister's patch was pushed to the htc-vogue branch. tests are welcome.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] detroitpro:
Wait wait wait...so your saying we can now use the vogue branch on titans?

No way!...going to test now
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mpenguin14:
I have made a few small games for android and since I don't have a G1 and I am using Magisters Android build for the Titan I feel the pain of other Titan users that can't use the market, so if you would like to play any of my games feel free to get them from my website

NoLitez (A Lights Out Clone)

PingPong (A Pong Clone)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] bchi49:
Great work everyone! Android has been working great on Titan!

One thing I notice is that when I use the arrow keys on the slide out keyboard the keys don't match e.g. up/down/left/right. The lights for email, IE, call, hangup button light are always on.

everything else runs fast, Opera Mini is really fast.

Waiting to see how to install Market Place, YouTube, Gmail, IM, Calendar sync, on it in the future when Google open up.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] wagedomain:
Awesome, but problem

This is really awesome, thanks for putting together a Mogul/Titan-specific build.

I am having an issue, though. FAT32 formatted SD card (recently formatted, problem occurred before, too) fails launching Android. Throws the error "Failed to mount SD card" and puts me back at the command prompt.

I am trying to do a more thorough reformatting in case that's the issue, instead of a quick format. The same issue happened with the Vogue build as well.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dc13:
earlier in the build it had to do with it not seeing bigger Micro SD cards not sure if it still has the prob. what GB is your card.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] arrrghhh:
i have the default 512mb microsd card and i get the same thing - failed to mount sd card. i do get a tty with a functional keyboard, and manual mounting the device didn't work any better. i'll try to format it tonight in my computer, i don't know how to format it in the phone itself.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dc13:
get into the default.txt and put this value in replace of the org. value

2000000

i think it is like 320000000 or something. u have to have the file opend on the PC and use notepad. that might work.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] arrrghhh:
k, i'll try that. i wiped the sd card and now i'm having issues getting back into my ftp server so this may just wait until i'm off the clock ;)

update:

after a reformat of the card and dc13's suggestion i'm still getting "failed to mount sd card" - i'll try to format again in a card reader tonight.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dc13:
try to use

24000000

or

16000000

or

48000000
[Mogul, XV6800 General] TitanDroider:
As far as the light touches, I've built the kernel image with all of the latest check-ins (as of last nite), and I removed the light touch filtering because it was *ridiculous* how hard I had to push on the screen :)..

I'll post the kernel image to a website later if people want it.

I'll probably try to work on the touchscreen to get it to behave a little better...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] wagedomain:
It was a 1GB.

I went out and got a 2GB card and that worked. Turns out the SD card itself was formatted weird, and wouldn't reformat again. Quick formats worked fine, but didn't solve the problem, and a, uh, slow format didn't seem to work AT ALL. Took over 4 hours and nothing happened, phone froze.

Booted instantly with the new SD card, which is LARGER, so it looks like it's just a fluke. Thanks anyway!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] chaonatic:
I have an issue with my 8GB Class 4 Kingston MicroSD card where I won't be able to boot into Android twice in a row. If I boot into Android, then restart the device and try to boot Android again it gives the "cannot mount" error. I can boot into Android again if I overwrite the files, but the same thing happens the next time I restart the device.

However, my 6GB Class 4 Sandisk card works perfectly every time, go figure...