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[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
Didn't DPReview give top marks to the HTC 10? Then again, DPReview also gave decent scores for the 6P so maybe you don't like that site?

Anyway, back on topic. I just purchased my 6P a few months ago so it's unlikely that I will switch so soon but it really depends on the reviews of the new devices and pricing. The 810 on the 6P throttles a lot so it would nice to get a cooler device. So if Fi offers it a 64GB version of the Marlin for $400, I might consider it!
[Nexus 6P General] krolla03:
They did give high remarks for the 6p. However i believe the conditions have to be just right to get a awesome picture.

The camera experience overall is seriously lacking. The software is very subpar. There is no OIS no Real Time HDR the slow-mo is horrible.

Now the low light performance of the 6P is very good though.

MKBHD gave the HTC 10 average marks for the camera.
[Nexus 6P General] kingmikel:
But he also uses an iPhone 6s Plus as his 2nd phone so I think that kinda discredits him ;)
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
Not familiar with MKBHD. Are you talking about this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kiECQodMqE

Only saw a bit of the review but it doesn't appear that he does any real benchmarking?

The DPReview review has a lot more data.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/dxomark-mobile-report-htc-10
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
The 6P and HTC 10 use a great sensor. The 6P falls behind due to having f/2.0 and no OIS - Google/Huawei really dropped the ball on that one. The HTC 10 would be the best smartphone camera out there, short of autofocus speed, if they would get the software right. HDR+ on the 6P is unbeatable when you have a steady hand. That is the key to having remarkable photos with the 6P - a really, really steady hand... especially in low light. I compared about 100 photos over a few days with many different scenes between my 6P and a Sony RX100 IV ($~1,000 point and shoot camera - best in the world right now) and the 6P held its own, and 9 times out of 10 produced more pleasing .jpg's due to Google's superior software processing. The RX obviously had a lot more capability and detail due to manual controls, a larger sensor, a true lens, and higher MP count, but for straight out of the camera photos for the average person, the 6P honestly handled it much better due to perfectly exposing the scene with HDR+ other than situations with very low light.
[Nexus 6P General] mrdunn:
Just bought a S7 still have a week to return it, no problem with Bluetooth, and I use Google Now Launcher or if you don't like that, Nova. for my home screen. Very fast, lots of features, can't modify much but does have hundreds of themes. Too small, like my LG G4 better but it stopped working 2 months after warranty up. Love playing with my GNEX in the past. Not sure what I will do, but so far S7 has great battery life and everything works, not like the many custom ROMs I flashed in the past. Not advocating the S7, but it does have it's virtues.
[Nexus 6P General] YellowSnowman23:
MKBHD made my local FOX News! "Best Tech Reviewer on the Planet"
[Nexus 6P General] jtwlbz:
If finger print señsor is in the back then no
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I just ordered the OnePlus 3 I'm going to give it a try , it just doesn't feel like an upgrade in every sense , it will probably be an upgrade in the performance department , which is my biggest issue with the 6p and it will be shorter also , but the camera looks like a downgrade and so does the screen :(

The Nexus 2016 looks like it will have most of what I want but with huge bezels and probably it will be very tall because of them :(

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[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
I also ordered the OP3 to hold me over until the new Nexuses are released. I will likely stay with the OP3 unless the new nexuses somehow blow me away. I'm coming from the S7 which has an amazing camera, screen, and expandable storage. However, I can no longer deal with TouchWiz and lack of root. TouchWiz is honestly so bad for battery life and just generally is unpleasant to use (for me). It's a shame that Samsung has such terrible software, as their hardware is top notch.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Touchwiz ...Never again , their hardware is amazing , the note 7 is really a sight to behold but it feels slower than the Nexus 6p /HTC 10 :/ and it's wwwaaaay uglier

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[Nexus 6P General] Svid:
I might consider this option.

The 6P is too big for me ( 5.7 kinda big for me)
[Nexus 6P General] mkp52mkp:
no i'm not upgrading this year. coz these new specs don't look much impressive n 6p is running great for me. i'll wait for nexus 2017 n oneplus 4.
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Exactly....doing the same coming from a Samsung S5. Can't stand Samsung anymore. They lock their phones WAY too tightly and there is hardly any Dev support.
[Nexus 6P General] JedixJarf:
As long as the 821 doesnt throttle like the POS the 810 is, then yes, I am upgrading.

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Though I will miss 5.7, as i have monster hands
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It's coming with an 820,not an 821.
[Nexus 6P General] Ady1976:
If rumours are true then i won't be getting it...

Have had the 6p since launch, have also had the Nexus 6, front firing stereo speakers is a deal breaker for me, also if they have reduced the screen size yet again since the nexus 6 then that's another reason i'm not jumping on the band wagon, and to be honest I'd hoped Google would have given Huawei another shot at it because the 6p is the best phone I've ever owned and i'm not a fan of HTC's ****ty quality control, I mean have you seen the screens they allowed past quality control on the Nexus 9 !? I do because I have one and it's a disgrace it even passed HTC's QC, so that's 3 reason to put me right off ! Sorry google I was hoping for as long as I lived I would never have to see an HTC Nexus ever again ! roll on 2017 !
[Nexus 6P General] znel52:
Originally said I was at least going to wait a while before "upgrading". Not so sure now lol getting the itch for a new phone. I think it will hinge on how good the camera is for me personally. Hopefully it is at least in the same ballpark as 6p.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
Actually, with a October-November release evident, I think the Sailfish will come with 820 while the Marlin packs the 821. I say this because it's too simple to believe from the rumors that the only difference between the two will be the screen size and battery capacity. If that's the case it defeats the purpose of the Marlin entirely.

Think about it, why shell out 549$ for the Marlin when you can pay 399$ for the Sailfish? The Nexus 5X average's about 30 minutes less battery life than the 6P despite the 6P holding a big 750mAh over it. Why? The screen resolution on the 6P (QHD) sucks lots of power. The new Sailfish is said to come FHD so power consumption will be much lower than Marlin with the same powerful CPU and RAM which equals much better battery life.

From the looks of all the rumors and screenshots, it appears both phones will come with 4GB RAM, SD820, same build quality, same cameras, so why shell out an extra 200.00 for the Marlin when: your eyes can't see difference between FHD and QHD, you'll have a much better performing phone, less power usage, same speedy updates etc.

It would literally make the Marlin obsolete, which h is hwy I think as fall comes more and more will be revealed to show what sets the two apart.

I hope... at least.....
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
You CAN see the difference between amoled pentile qhd and amoled full hd

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[Nexus 6P General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Only if you really try and stick your eyes at point blank range. Most users will not notice and that's what matters.
[Nexus 6P General] fix-this!:
No i wont as im not interested in htc or the price point. the design renders ive seen are fugly. i just picked up my 6p yesterday and im more than satisfied.
[Nexus 6P General] Raistlin1:
I will consider upgrading if the size of the phone feels better in my hand. Love the 6P but the phone is just too big. Coworker got the Note 7 and the device is smaller than my 6P, and it is a gorgeous phone. Going from 5.7 to 5.5 is no big deal to me as long as the phone feels good in my hands. Just hope battery life is better on the new Nexus, I have never had good battery life on my Nexus phones.
[Nexus 6P General] diegodbm:
No. N6p beautiful design, great performance... Why change it?

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[Nexus 6P General] xchatter:
I won't update. Furthermore, if I could go back, I wouldn't get my 6P. I came from Note 3. No sd card, no battery swap... I understand how important those things are, especially the expandable storage.

Only positive from my upgrade was the front speakers.

Next I would better get, Note 7, Axon 7 or Vivo xplay with 6 gigs of ram. I got Vivo x6 for my wife and those devices are really cool- smooth persistent performance and her model is with mediatec chip(I'm surprised). The phone stays cool all the time and it feels well built.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
....and the cycle continues. A lot of people hated on the Nexus 6p right before it was released last year too......but yet they still purchased one. Lol
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
You don't have to "try" to see it. The difference is immediately noticeable in normal use.
[Nexus 6P General] robstunner:
Agreed. 5.5 with a good screen, camera and battery is all I need. The 6P is great but too big for total comfort. If Samsung can make a 5.5" screen device that's the size of the 5x, I'm sure Google can do it on a nexus.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Do you think they're the real deal ? It looks about fake to me but much better I have to say

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[Nexus 6P General] robstunner:
I'm saying fake.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
When did the HTC 10 design get scrapped? I thought it was more "official" than these screenshots?
[Nexus 6P General] clockcycle:
Coming from the v10 which is still going strong, altho the 6P was nice, I skipped it. Having upgraded from the G4 recently, it was too little too soon.. So something new would be good.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
V20 maybe here
[Nexus 6P General] sjrp:
So, I'm sitting here thinking about buying a Nexus 6P today, even though it's about one year old. All current 6P owners: is it horrendously stupid to go with the 6P considering that the next Nexus phones probably are out in about 2 months? Currently I own a Note 3 and I'm really longing to get back to the Nexus world. Especially since Nougat came out. Furthermore, I've never liked the design and feel of most HTC phones and the new Nexuses look awful in my opinion.

My only concerns are that it will stop getting software updates in about a year and that the hardware of the next nexus phones would blow the 6P out of the water. The first concern is probably not a real problem since I'm assuming the custom ROM community for the 6P is pretty decent? And you can always get better hardware if you wait long enough, so...
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I have just two things to say to you : snapdragon 810 and a slow camera

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[Nexus 6P General] combat goofwing:
if it looked like this I would
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Yes, that happened to this design?
[Nexus 6P General] donwhall70:
After seeing Sammy's offerings, LG's, and renders of the new Nexus devices, I decided on the year old 6P. I'll take a look at it but I doubt that I'll be picking one up.
[Nexus 6P General] ritchea:
Ditto, although the above rendering would be of interest to me.
[Nexus 6P General] JedixJarf:
Either or, I don't care :P As long as it doesn't throttle after 5 mins of a game like pokemon go im fine :D
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Interesting.

http://www.androidcentral.com/end-nexus-2016-google-phones-forge-new-path
[Nexus 6P General] sirluigi:
I think the new nexuses are missing the X-Factor that 6p has..... who know when it really comes out we might get that....Fingers crossed :p
[Nexus 6P General] Dhanabalan:
+ 1
[Nexus 6P General] clockcycle:
Not for me. I liked the LG N4 N5 and G4. V10 was meh, camera is nice but screen doesn't pop like newer phones. In hoping for brightness and snappier, as well as activity and support. Which the marlin & sailfish should get.. LG other than the G4 hardly get noticed for accessories.
[Nexus 6P General] Gilley:
Just returned my Note 7 to go back to my 6P... I tried everything to like the N7 but couldnt justify paying that when I had something that felt so much more snappy.
[Nexus 6P General] tyea:
I'm not going to be an early adopter this time. I'm on project Fi with a nexus 6p, and I've had problems with people hearing me clearly on phone calls, as well as having the phone non functional for the past week due to the bootlooping problem people like me are suffering from after side loading noughat. I'm so bummed the mighty nexus is bricked, but no progress has been made in a week within the xda community. I bought an Axon 7, and will wait and see how the upcoming Marlin phone works on all the networks before buying another nexus phone.
[Nexus 6P General] StangATX:
Just bought the new Nexus 6P. I know that the new one is coming up but I'm coming from the Nexus 6 and I love it. I love the dual front speaker as well and this is why I decided to buy the 6P over the new one. I can't wait to receive it!!!:D
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
Which is why I'm praying that the V20 debuts with an OLED screen. LG dominates the OLED TV market. Hopefully they're going to make something meaningful in the smartphone world soon.
[Nexus 6P General] evoschecter:
Yep! Im upgrading, I always pass the last year devices to friends and family. Gots to have dat DREAM!
[Nexus 6P General] CraigP17:
amen. had the same experience. loved how the Note 7 felt....just not how it worked and I hate TW.

I will most definitely grab the new Google offering though....
[Nexus 6P General] ps000000:
Pixel Phone ???????
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
How are some news outlets so dumb?

http://www.parentherald.com/article...laxy-note-7-first-to-come-out-with-nougat.htm
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Welcome the Pixel and the Pixel XL, being unveiled 10-4. RIP Nexus.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oogle-home-daydream-vr-viewer-on-october-4th/
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Am I the only one that thinks the name Pixel is stupid compared to Nexus? Nexus sounds cool. Pixel sounds like a toy you add to your Lego set. Stupid marketing.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Well the new Pixel phones look like kids toys so....
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Haha! And will be sold in Toys-R-Us! :laugh::eek:

Hope Huawei saves the world with a souped up Nexus 6Px!
[Nexus 6P General] Namuh:
Marlin and Sailfish? Not for me. I'm waiting to see what Huawei comes out with, or someone else that has a 5.7" display that will be Daydream ready...Splitting up a 1080p display to show off VR seems like a fail to me.
[Nexus 6P General] JayantSparda:
I feel almost obligated to get a HTC 10 successor next year if I want another phone. These Pixel branding sounds really awful and seeing that Google wants to incorporate their own skin this time..

Hopefully we receive better news in the coming weeks regarding Marlin design, branding/name and easy rooting/custom roms.
[Nexus 6P General] italia0101:
Highly doubt it's a "skin" it's just going to be more features built in
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Seriously. Skin? It will be like a custom ROM except it will be features designed and implemented by Google which means a little more polished and usually less buggy
[Nexus 6P General] clockcycle:
How's that axiom 7 screen looking? I ask since marlin is supposedly using the same one..
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
So it's gonna be called the Pixel and Pixel XL. Will be announced and maybe released oct 4
[Nexus 6P General] bradputt:
you're killing me google....
[Nexus 6P General] tyea:
I don't have the phone yet, but I'm done with root and ROM tinkering. I just want a nice piece of hardware, up to date Google software, unlocked maximum network options.
[Nexus 6P General] Crazy Homeless Guy:
Unless you actually need a good sounding phone, or expect to power a decent pair of earbuds. Otherwise it is a decent phone.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Who cares what they're called? I dont care if they name it "The Google Pig Sh*t Phone". If its supported by Google, gets updates first and has good specs.....I'm getting it. :good:

I swear....people will complain about anything these days.
[Nexus 6P General] Crazy Homeless Guy:
Disagree. I am all for the Pixel branding. The Pixel Chromebook and tablet were designed by Google and controlled by Google. They already said they plan to take more control of the Nexus line. This is the first stage.
[Nexus 6P General] dakunclear:
I won't complain or get it but I'll wait another year to see where they go with the pixel branding besides I got one more year of updates before this phone is no longer any use to me and the battery life 100x better than the lg g4 that I came from
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Meh, something to discuss on a message board?

Sorry...Pixel is stupid.

Besides, the Nexus 6P is awesome. No reason to upgrade to the Pixel.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
So , I got my self a oneplus 3 and it made decide to get the pixel XL , the snapdragon 820 flies , dash charge is so nice that it gives me a good feeling about charging 3.0 that should be as fast as it , also the idea of a better camera AND a better screen sounds like all I look for in a phone .

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[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Meh, you'll probably buy it too eventually.

The name "Nexus 6p" (Nexus 6 Premium) was stupid and un-original too, but we all bought it because its a nice device spec wise and at the time, it wasn't that much of an upgrade over the Nexus 6.....spec wise. Basing whether or not your going to upgrade to a device on what its named is pretty stupid IMO
[Nexus 6P General] jxcorex28:
Just upgraded to 6p, so no...
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Wise choice for now...
[Nexus 6P General] jxcorex28:
Yeah I love this phone...Still trying to figure everything out...I'm coming from a M8 myself
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Nope. No interest in either of the "Pixel" phones at all.

I bought the Nexus 6P because it had an amoled screen, was 5.7" and was NOT a Samsung. Those are the only reasons really. I am running stock, unrooted.

I don't agree about the names. Nexus is an awesome name. 6P is just fine. Nothing wrong with that. Sorry, but Pixel sounds too childish to me. In the end though, it's only a name. Really, it is no amazing upgrade specs wise to the 6P. I'll wait for the next round of phones next fall to see what is what. Doubt I'll ever own a "Pixel" phone though.
[Nexus 6P General] fix-this!:
from the reviews its one of the best screens out there not to mention phenomenal sound. its on my radar for my possible next phone once the grey version comes out and there are roms.

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same here just bought my 6p.
[Nexus 6P General] :
Just upgraded to 6p 128 gb at $549 couldn't say no, was waiting for this year's release but didn't like the smaller size screen. I would have kept n6 but was stuck with the 32gb version.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
But the software is so bad and the camera is quite inferior to the nexus's :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] Raiden8816:
I've just went from my recalled Note 7 to the 6P. This phone reminded me how much I enjoy rooting and making the phone mine, versus having a locked bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] ps000000:
I am thinking about S7 Edge , HTC10 , OnePlus Three.

But I am waiting for the final Marlin release. :laugh:
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I have a Note 7 and I wouldn't go back to the 6P. The 6P is slow, has poor hardware and the 810 is horrible. I have the EU version and the bootloader comes unlocked also. The Note 7 is superior in every way to the 6P. I wouldn't move go the smaller 5.5inch screen Marlin screen now also.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Okay 810 is horrible, but poor hardware? Dunno about that, but saying that 6p is slow, is just pure trolling, you obviously havent got the device lol. One of the fastest device around, even year after release, it has its faults, but being slow is not one of them thats for sure.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I absolutely do have the 6P and the 810 throttles like hell it's a horrible SOC, the Exynos 8890 smokes it and that's with it even running Touchwiz!
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
For day to day usage this does not matter. I demo'd a note 7 and it still had touchwiz lag so I'm out, while I virtually never experience lag on my 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Well, I disagree. I actually own the Note 7 and not demod it (Exynos version) and it has zero lag. Perhaps you used the 820 version as I believe it has problems? Aside from the crazy battery problems it's a stunning phone with great day to day use. I wouldn't go back to the 6P which feels like a poor mid ranger.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Guys quick question when was the Nexus 6p available to buy in the us ? I know Google introduced on the 29.09.15 but when was the exact date you could buy it ?

Here in Germany we got on the 23.11! :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
The end of October.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
So probably this year we will have to wait 3-4 weeks again :( bummer

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
It's looking like the same timescale.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I want a new phone ... But I realized I've become a fanboy , I got the OnePlus 3 and im returning it now , yes the performance is amazing and the camera speed runs circles around the Nexus's but the Nexus pics look better and also the nexus's screen is better , you can definitely see the difference on text , on pictures not so much , but I read a lot on my phone .

The galaxy note 7 is amazing but the price is outrageous and TouchWiz is still awful .

I feel like there's no other phone for me but the pixel xl :(

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I've bought a Note 7. The Pixel just looks horrible and I don't want to go back to a 5.5 screen. Honestly, Touchwiz is fine on the Exynos N7, it's easily faster than the 6P and there's little lag or stutter. I know all the Nexus fans (and I'm one) will argue against this but that's genuinely what I've found. I do believe though the 820 Note 7 is very laggy. You can really feel how the 6P throttles and has heat problems when you run it next to the Exynos N7 also.
[Nexus 6P General] kibmikey1:
It comes down to 3 finalists this year for me: OP3, Axon 7, and Pixel. Each have pros and cons, but after having weighed them all, I'll be getting the Pixel. The OP3 has good development and solid hardware, but I dislike the larger size, and the front physical button makes me nauseous. Axon has solid hardware, but their software isn't so great, and even though the bootloader is unlockable now, the development is just not there. Maybe the next version. That leaves the Pixel. Perfect size, specs are good, and even though it might be plastic, the only thing that kept me from getting the 5X was the inferior specs. Besides, what's the first thing we all do when we get a new phone anyway? We put it in a nice, plastic case. Case closed for me.
[Nexus 6P General] osi13:
My first 6P was laggy and got hot using chrome. My RMA is much better. There is no doubt in my mind that the 6P running Nougat is smoother than the Note 7 running M. I've only played with the 820 Note 7 but the performance difference between M and N on the 6p is quite substantial. Surely the Pixel XL will be smoother than the Note 7 as well. Anyone who says they don't have lag or micro stutter is fooling themselves. Even the iPhone SE with its powerful SoC and tiny resolution has microstutter. Plus, LOL the Pixel isn't even out yet. Talk about being insecure with your purchase.