yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Diznario:
FYI - QuickGPS is actually an official HTC tool, and it's in the factory HTC roms as well. It's been around for a while, and it was even included in my old Artemis. (HTC P3300)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] goestoeleven:
Count me in as well... looks like a keeper (you can keep the Office 2007 in though... ;) ). Definitely lose the HTC Task Manager (it stinks). QuickGPS should probably stay.

Thanks, bud!

PS. If you're looking for other things to nuke, all sample files, ringtones, etc. would be a decent place to start...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
My removed items folder ialready exceeds 40mb! All those silly sounds & graphics were the first to go.

One thought on removing Office & not including things like Windows Live & Java: If we have a good stable base rom then when these items are updated we can always create/get Cabs of the newer versions and upgrade them without flashing the Rom.

BTW, I'll never integrate MS Voice Command (even though I always use it) simply because it is a commercial application and therefore considered WAREZ.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ChaOConnor:
I agree whole heartedly! That's the smartest approach IMHO, and I don't know why more ROMs aren't done that way. A fast, stable OS, a CABs for everything else. Makes management way easier, upgrading easier, it's better all around I feel.

Looking forward to it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] goestoeleven:
Also agree -- and no WAREZ (people need to pay for this stuff)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Wiz:
Same issue on this rom version. Bluetooth audio on (mono) headsets and carkits is awful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
Been playing around with the new Kitchen and this ROM and got it down to 157.69 Storage removing all the images, videos, help files, Voice SD, Java, Transcriber, Games and start up cabs. It´s very fast... HOWEVER... since my last flash I have lost sound :confused: The radio has been reported to be the issue on other threads but up until this last flash I hadn´t had any problems. It´s a shame because the radio has been a big improvement on the previous ones.

Kyphur have you experienced any issues? I will go back and look at what I have removed... more in a bit!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Wiz:
Any clues how to get the "default" black an blue Dialer and Comm Manager skins from the HTC retail rom onto this rom? (and I mean the real ones, not the ported ones)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdhensley5:
This may be wishful thinking on my part, but the sound quality of phone calls seems to be better after flashing this ROM.

Misc. Problems after flashing (these could just be my stupidity though):

Browsing the web - I did a soft reset before customization and no longer have the disable proxy option. I can't connect to any web pages. There's got to be a regedit or tweak for this. OK, found the disable and restore proxy cabs.

My touchflo cube no longer works.

The comm manager that I was using before flashing no longer installs. Found Touch Comm manager that works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
For Dialer, RegEdit: HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin Set Enabled to 0 (Zero) Then power-off via the Power Button (to preserve Reg Change) when you power up you should have the default WM6 Black Dialer again.

For CommManager, if I stop the AT&T Customizations this is what I have:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Wiz:
Thanks, but I see I need to rephrase myself a wee bit. What you metioned I already discovered. This registry edit leads me back to the default WM6 skin with rounded buttons. I was actually referring to the skins that first appeared on the Touch and now are default on the TyTN II, those with the square buttons. With those skins the comm manager and the dialer have the same layout. Normally I wound not mind using some of th Schaps skinds for the Hermes, but I;d like to preserve videocall facility, hence the need for the default TyTN II skins.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
UPDATE... re cooked the ROM again and removed most images and sounds, help files, notes, voice dial, games, real player, transcriber, field test, java, PTT and all AT&T stuff and the sound is working with the new ROM :D Storage 157,57

Haven´t done anything different but flashed the ROM with the new radio in the same nbh... not sure if´s related though. Will continue to look into the radio issue but I think the problem lies in the operator PKG.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
These images are not in the ROM so you would need to install as a cab or cook them in...;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Wiz:
I'd love to manually install them as cabs if someone would provide them. The original TyTN II ones are pre-cooked into the original TyTN II rom by HTC (AT&T took them out), so I am looking for installable CABs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
Here´s the cab for the dialpad and there´s a comm skin above posted by mdhensley5....;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Wiz:
These are the ones created based on the touch and not the original TyTN II ones. The TyTN II comm manager has 10 buttons and the TyTN II dialer has videocalling. It those that I am looking for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
CV fix?

Hi,

Anyone ever get Cingular Video to work with this ROM?

I tried the regedit that supposedly fixed it,but no luck, still says the phone isn't 3G when I try to go there. Really liked this ROM too,

any help?

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
is anyone able to connect to internet using PIE with activesync on this rom? It tries to connect but I get a 0x80072f78 error on this. My quickgps doesn't work and my AIM doesn't work. PIE and all my other apps seem to work on WIFI ok.

and yes, I already tried this tweak.

[ H K E Y _ L O C A L _ M A C H I N E \ S O F T W A R E \ M i c r o s o f t \ W i n d o w s C E S e r v i c e s ]

" A l l o w L S P " = d w o r d : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

and proxy is disabled.

not sure what it is.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BeyondtheTech:
Forgive me for asking, but since this thread is 11 pages long and the original post only has the original AT&T ROM with all its bloatware in its glory, did anyone actually release a lite version of this ROM yet, or are they still cooking it? I'd really want to try the updated OS and Radio on my Tilt, or is everything still not working properly for people that it's not yet released?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
I´ve been trying to cook one but for none ATT... But I´m still learning and so far I still have a few issues :( and although the ROM I´m now running is extremely fast and stable I still have these problems.....

1.Internet Proxy over GSM/UTMS/HSDPA (as previously mentioned in thread)

Tried registary edits and even the cabs posted on this thread but I can only connect via wifi. Anyone found a solution to this?

2.Cooked in Video dialer

Managed to cook in the standard black square button touch dialer but I can´t get the video skin to work. Maybe a more experienced cook could point me in the right direction?

It would be great to solve these isuues as it´s very fast and I like the new radio ROM....:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
Found if you install proxy disable cab each time you connect you can use the PIE over 3G but I need to find a way to get this to stick in reg. I saw this post below by shogunmark on an old Hermes thread so I´m looking for something similar... keep posted.

"on the reg tweak.. have you tried the last thing it mentions...

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings] The default setting (that uses the proxy) is:

"EnableAutoDetect"=dword:00000000 Change it to:

"EnableAutoDetect"=dword:00000001 Or simply delete it. It's more of the fact that if it's there and =0 it's used. if it's missing it's not used. But changing it to =1 will also make it disable. This way you can simply change the value back without re-adding the seting back in.

For some reason, the registry entry above will occasionally revert from =1 to =0, causing IE's proxy to be active again. Deleting the registry entry prevents this from happening"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andygee:
I'd be happy to try to cook one if I could get the original. Does anyone have another link to download it as the original link is expired for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
got the ROM if ya need it

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silkshadow:
Rapidshare link in the 1st post is still working for me (I am downloading the file right now). Thanks for posting it! I am hopeful this fixes my issues with edge and 3g.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Worked good for me except the Cingular Video site doesn't recognize the handset as 3G. Tried the regedit in another post (Cellular Video fixed, i think is the name), but that didn't work for me.:mad:

Radio is definetly better than the shipped ATT ROM tho.:)

I use that Cingular Video site quite a bit-so I went back to the original-for now.

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ?Glitch:
MS Voice Command binaries do NOT work with the ROM...

?Glitch
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LuXx:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent]

"CustomBase"="HTC_TyTN_II/ <----Changed to HTC-8900
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andygee:
Here's my first custom attempt. I've removed almost everything AT&T wise. I have a little further that I will probably change for me.

http://www.andygee.com/att18128.rar

Thanks,

Andy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] christonge:
Hi, did you get the PIE working over GSM/3G with your ROM?

It´s the only issue I have with my cooked ROM now and I´m keen to know how to fix it. Anyboby?:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] srobida:
I installed this ROM and my TILT won't boot pass the AT&T splash screen. I have done 4 reboots and removed my battery twice to get by it. Can anyone offer a suggestion?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andygee:
Hold down the power key and the camera key and reset the unit. Wait for bootloader mode and reload a rom of choice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] srobida:
Thank you Andy!

Steve
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andygee:
No honestly I haven't tried. Were you able to get rid of the PTT stuff? If so what did you have to remove to kill it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Umm,

I made an 1D10T error-

Thx, I was just putting 8900 there, instead of HTC-8900.

Working good now :D , if I could only follow instructions!!

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
It worked well for me - it's the first Kaiser ROM that I haven't had any issues with (but Spb Diary version may have been an issue with other trials) - now I've gone on to Helmi's Big Storage Tilt ROM and it is also working well - no sound problems.

BTW: I prefer the Tilt ROM's because I

have

a Tilt, and I don't want a dialer that has a superfluous video button; and quite frankly, I am not enamored with the monochrome look of the Tytn II ROM's, and the HTC Home takes up too much real estate, and I don't need a giant old-fashioned digital time display.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
I gotta agree with ya-not a fan of the HTC color scheme/layout at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silkshadow:
Woot! Using this rom for a few hours now and, besides 1 lock up right after the crapware install reboot, it runs nice and it fixed my 3G/edge problem. Yay!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
My 1st Kaiser Cooked Rom is coming guys!

Look at the images:

160.80 MB of Storage Memory Free.

I have removed ALL AT&T Bloatware and some useful things.

The useful things (will get cab files to install, then as updated version become avaliable we can update our devices without using additional memory!):

QuickGPS

Office 2007

Sprite Backup

I see that I didn't get HTC Task Manager or the AT&T Dialer completely out (will have to search for the missed files)

Note Cyberon Voice Dialer is GONE!

Also, the HSDPA icon is back on the Connections Tab so you can Enable/Disable it as you please.

I'm going to remove the two built-in games (Solitare & BubbleBreaker) but will provide a Cab file for them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Nice-can't wait,

one question though,

removing the voice dialer, will you provide a cab for it, or MSFT voice ?

confused about voice command

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pencilcase:
My 1st Kaiser Cooked Rom is coming guys!

^^^^ can't wait! been wanting to try the new radio rom :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I won't provide a cab for Microsoft Voice Command as it is a commercial product.

I may construct a cab to install the exact version (and files) of Cyberon Voice Dialer that AT&T included in the original Rom although There are several cabs for this product already avaliable in this forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] yi3o8:
Sweet

Yeah, I was wondering if voice command could be added by us. I know you mentioned something about copyrighting.

I gotta admit that I'm psyched about getting a semi-official rom for my 8925/tilt. As long as TomTom6 works on it I'll be happy.

When it comes out, I would like to see what people think is the best stuff for it. e.g. the best/stable dialer, newest audio manager, fixes*

*to elaborate, I mean if there is something not obvious to the noobs, please mention it. this may seem redundant (which I know is horrible for the threads) but so useful when talking about flashing a beloved device. simple things might be horrible problems for some

for instance, if the at&t text message center # is changed, a person new to these phones would wonder what's wrong and have no clue what to do

and I have to ask the noob question... is this rom being cooked going to have the updated radio, like the beginning of the thread, or is it the stock rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jakirkla:
Sweet. Can't wait to try it out and use the new radio as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] yi3o8:
one more noob question

with ms voice, you've bought the device so you can say you own it.

I know this doesn't help but is there a way to back it up from your tilt before you flash a new rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
kyphur, are you going to use the acrsoft with seperate sms/mms accounts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Nope, I'm leaving the included version of MMS. I've thought about removing it and allowing each to install the version they prefer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
That works for Cyberon Voice Dialer, AFAIK MS voice Command has not been shipped on one of these devices. The only place I was it as OEM was the first Wizard WM6 Rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] goestoeleven:
You're mistaken here. MS Voice Command is NOT included in any Kaiser ROM. If you put it on your device without having purchased it separately, you're stealing...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] yi3o8:
Yeah, I know now... didn't know about cyberon being the voice speed dialer. The tilt is my first baby and I'm pretty anxious to upgrade it.

By adding things like HTC Home, am I defeating the purpose of flashing it. I'm reaching out for expert advice on things that will make my phone more awesome than it already is.

Like Touch Commander (which isn't really needed but looks impressive) and the dialer with big buttons.

I don't want my baby too fat ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Not at all, especially if you go with a lite build like I'm working on.

The point of my Tilt build will be to strip it down to the base OS (as near as possible) and then let you add only what you want (ie games, office & MS Live).

Go ahead and play around now figuring out what you like and keep a list.

The two main points of my Rom are:

1) not waste space on crap I don't use so I will have more storage space for the things I do want to use.

2) Remove some components (like Office & Quick GPS) from the ROM so as they are updated I can upgrade them without being double hit for the files (ROM file can't be deleted so we pay upfront for that space).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] madmatt079:
Awesome news kyphur...

I am looking forward to your release. Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
My Wish List

O. K. :)

Here's my wish list.

1) your suhweet ROM

and

2) a voice dialer :D

I created (with credit to Deathace) a remapped PTT to Voice Speed Dial cab, so I use Voice Speed Dial alot.

(ohh-and the Office and Windows Live cab)

As was asked earlier in the thread-Are ya usin the same radio?, cuz this one in the ATT ROM is better than the one in the stock shipped ROM.

Lookin forward to it

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
This Rom (and any cooked versions of it) will require the new Radio.

I will wrap the Radio Rom into the nbh file.

BTW, second Test results:

OEM Games removed.

Transcriber Removed.

HTC Task Manager completely gone!

Storage Memory: Total 162.05, Free 159.80

Program Memory: Total 101.38, Free 72.88
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BeyondtheTech:
Oh my! A clean Tilt once and for all! I personally can't stand the Cyberon software. Who's gonna sit through 290 contacts and set up voice tagging? Yuck.

I got my Voice Command on standby.

Kyphur, please release this ROM as soon as possible!

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
would be good to have them choose... the palm threaded app wont work with the new version, the sms and mms must be split
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I want to get the initial ROm out tomorrow. I think for the second rerlease I'll pull out MMS and dig out the cabs for the two versions. If you have them and wouldn't mind sending them to me that would be great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pkley:
GAAA Kyphur you're killing me! My current ROM needs a reflash so bad it HURTS! Been limping along for the last week while waiting for someone to cook the new ROM/Radio...

ah well, I can't contribute so I can't complain.

More than a little belated, but I was glad to see you back after your haitus. Also glad to see someone with their priorities straight - a bunch of strangers demanding ROMS would rate pretty low on my scale :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Thanks for the kind words and understanding. I hated disappearing but as you said priorities are what they are. BTW, my Ma is back in Chemo. The docs are amazed at her recovery, they really though she would be dead by now.

Regarding the Rom, I'm only having one problem right now: The PTT button. Seems I've missed something and it is messing-up the new reg keys for using it. The keys get removed from the registry on restart and don't seem to do anything before reboot. I think I just missed a little something of the PTT crap.

Once I get it working I'll put the rom up but I've got to get to bed now (work tomorrow). I'll spend some time on it at the office, really want to release it tomorrow (might even if I can't find this issue just so you guys can get a taste understanding the the PTT button is simpyl dead).

I figure that I'll have one cab for Enable PTT and one for Reassign PTT that will work on the base Rom.

I have the Office, OEM Games, Quick GPS Cabs ready to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silkshadow:
All the best to your mom and I am looking forward to the clean rom! Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] weinson:
New Radio Question

Are folks getting better reception with this new Radio? I am in the bay area, and the stock radio that came on my Tilt is ok, but to-date does not have the reception I had with my 8525.

Downside of upgrading my radio seems to be I will not be able to run Dutty's or some of the other cooked ROMs that are based off a non-att template ROM, but upside (a) will be that I can try Kyphur's ROM ... which I look forward to, since the very first ROM I flashed was his original XDA WM6 ROM for the hermes, and (b) may be better reception .. thats what I am trying to determine.

Thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Hope your mom does well,:) and from a noobie, THANKS AGAIN for all your work!

Just wondering if you'll include the Voice Speed Dial cab?:)

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Alemaker:
Radio definetly working better for me, used to not get signal AT ALL in my house, now getting 2 bars at least, all the time.:D

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silkshadow:
Same here, this rom fixed my 3G/Edge problem. Regular GSM signal is strong everywhere where I am. I once had a Samsung where the antena broke off but it still got full strength signal everywhere I went. So I can't comment on that part. However the low speed data transfers were really ticking me off, this rom fixed that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] akadonny:
If anyone is interested this rom is semi clean. I removed the files shown in the attachment and all the aac files. They're mostly out of the OperatorPKG folder. I also edited 2 provxml's to remove some favorites and unessary registry entries to AT&T folders. I tried removing more, but I just don't have the knowledge or the talent to do so. Just something to hold us over until kyphur finishes his rom.

I think you have to flash the official 0.4.4 first. The attachment only has the OS (System field from htc rom tool).

Storage

Total: 146.48

In use: 7.32

Free: 139.16

http://rapidshare.com/files/69446537/att_no_op_junk.rar.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] madmatt079:
Removing AT&T Dialer...?

Hey kyphur, how did you make out with removing the AT&T dialer? A few pages back you said you were having problems tracking everything down.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
It's gone! Completely and totally gone. Now you get the stock "black" WM6 Dialer. I've even discarded all of the images that were used by it.

I also got the last little bits of Task Manager out.

The only issue now is finding the little details I'm missing on the PTT stuff, something is getting left in the registry that blocks the Keys reassign cab from having any effect. I think I know what I'm looking for, just got to find it.

I don't know how many Tilt users actually use PTT, it will be the weekend before I can actually create the Cab fiel to add it back in but I don't use the service so I can't really test the Cab.

Still hoping for a release this evening (GMT -6).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Once I get the PTT reassign keys fixed then I will switch focus to two things:

1. Build CAB for Cyberon Vioce Dialer using the files from the Tilt ROM (AKU 0.4.4)

2. Build CAB for Sprite Backup using the files from the Tilt ROM (AKU 0.4.4)

In that order.

When I was cooking the Hermes Rom I had a spare Hermes, really helped with the development. Man I could use a spare Tilt but none of my lines is up for renewal until like Feb of '08...

FWIW, I will make the nbh file with both Radio & OS but not splash or IPL/SPL.

Anyone like the idea of reviving the "XDA Live" name for this Rom?