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[Nexus 6P General] jgoedhard:
HTC no thanks

I had an HTC Amaze and they left everyone in the dark with unsupported devices after one year, with very hard to get source codes long wait times if we ever got them. On paper the phone was a beast but in real life it sucked with constant crashes. BOO HTC BOO. Number one reason I didn't get the Nexus HTC models
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
You mean pounds right ?

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Yes.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Where ? Here in Germany you can get it for 630 euros :(

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
On Ebay new, factory unlocked for around £500 on Amazon around £600.
[Nexus 6P General] pro4ever:
Simple this phone is UGLY :silly::silly::silly:

hope it dont look like that though

keeping 6p
[Nexus 6P General] iamterence:
I can't wait to see the lot of you on the Pixel forums in a few months after release, lol.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I think it looks fine , the huge bezels are the thing that is disappointing , remember how we used to make fun of the 6P saying it looked like a barcode scanner ? Yeah nobody says that anymore , we love the 6p ;)

I'm sure the pixel XL will be a very nice device , to me the deciding factor is the camera , 650 euros is my absolute limit :(

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[Nexus 6P General] Persianhawkes:
I won't be upgrading. I'm using the 6p until development picks up for the axon 7. I currently have it as a backup. It's a great phone with a great price tag. And ZTE has said they are working with CM for an official ROM for it. If things go right this phone would be like an upgraded Nexus with SD Card.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I'm hoping the EU prices will be cheaper than the US dollar equivalent but if the XL $700+ It'll be €650+ with taxes etc. You're looking at IPhone or Samsung prices.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
But the last nexus prices here in Europe Gabe been crazy iPhone like , the nexus 6 and 6p were both 650 euros ( if I'm not mistaken ) when they were released :(

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[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
Yeah that's right and it looks like they'll be more expensive this year.
[Nexus 6P General] Nordstrøm:
Sold my 6P and got a S7 Edge mainly because I wanted better battery life. Worst decision ever. Even though that Exynos CPU is damn efficient and fast the UI is just too....something.

I missed my 6P like crazy and actually sold the S7 Edge again and bought a new 6P :P

Right now I'm on my old Nexus 5 and loving it. It needs charging twich a day so my conclusion must be that if i can live with a Nexus 5 that has a used battery I can be just as happy with a 6P that has twich the battery life.

Was tempted by the Pixel XL but the price is borderline arrogant IMO on a new line of devices.

Nexus 6P is hands down the best best phone I've ever had. Nexus 5 is a close second.

No I just have to buy another Spigen Rugged Armour and Screen Protector and I'm set for the next two years.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Not a chance I'll ever be there. Mark my words. You'll never see me own one of those upcoming Pixel devices. Guaranteed.

My next move will be a Note 8, Honour 9 or (gasp) an iPhone 8. The "Nexus" line is dead to me as a Pixel and how they are ruining it.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
The refreshed ui that the note has seems to improve the looks quite a bit , the s7 edge will get it with the nougat update , maybe in October /November (?)

I'm planning to get the edge 7 if the pixel XL ends up costing more than 650 euros :(

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[Nexus 6P General] Nordstrøm:
The S7 is a fine android phone. It just didn't give me that wow feeling that the 6P did.

Also the edge screen is more of a gimmick than useful. I found myself pressing the sides and activting stuff by accident. Also the fingerprint scanner on the 6P is miles better and the placement on the back suits me better.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
The 6P lacks a lot though, OIS, terrible 810 performance, always on display, waterproofing etc. The 6P is a good mid ranger but the S7 and Note 7(safe version) are way ahead.
[Nexus 6P General] Nordstrøm:
I had both and to me the 6P is a far better device. OIS is a nice thing to have but never found it to be a problem on my 6P :) Waterproofing is aslo something I've never had a use for. Never has problems with the Always on display either and the S7 is faster but by no means nothing incredible or something that felt way faster than my 6P :)

terrible is too strong a word. Never found the 810 lacking but then again I don't use my phone for gaming and such.

Actually I found them to be quite close in regards to overall feel with the 6P as the winner. That's why i sold the S7 Edge again and returned to the 6P. Best phone I've ever had. And I've had them all! Well, almost ;)

The S7 Edge is a fine device but it's way way overpriced and the pure android experience of the Nexus line is just awesome IMO. The S7 Edge never gave me the feel that the 6P did despite the better battery life and somewhat better performance.
[Nexus 6P General] B3501:
I had the Note 7 for a week before I had to give it back and I found it to be much better. I loved the Always on Display, using it as a beside clock on a wireless charging stand (the 6P can't do this). I've also got a lot of Jerky ruined videos because of no OIS on the 6P, granted my hand isn't the steadiest but I went back to my old S6 to take videos. I also found a lot of dropped frames and slow down gaming after a while because of the aggressive 810 throttling on the 6P. These are most of my 6P annoyances,in general its been great but (for me) i just feel it lacks a lot. The lack of feature on the new Pixel coupled with the high price really does concern me
[Nexus 6P General] Nordstrøm:
I'll never pay that much for a phone again. Although I do look forward to seeing it. It does seem bland but then again so did the 6P to me before I tried it. Don't know what it is about the Pure Android experience but as I understand the Pixel will have some sort of different UI?

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Only thing I disliked about my 6P is that I used to get around 4-5 hours of SoT and then it almost suddenly dropped to 2 hours. Tried everything from resetting to reverting to MM. Guess it could have been a faulty battery.

All I know is that I miss it like Crazy and even though I know the phone in and out I cant wait to get my hands on it again.
[Nexus 6P General] Nitemare3219:
Out of every phone in my signature, the 6P takes the crown and is what I have fallen back to every time I switch phones. Yes, the S7/S7E/Note7 and other flagships may have faster benchmarks and be quicker at intensive applications... but for day to day use? The 6P is faster than every Samsung phone. I HATED my Note7 because it bogged down like a piece of **** all the time. S7E was the same story. Samsung gets the hardware right all the time, but they nuke the software and make it a terrible phone.

I actually find the Ambient Display more useful than AOD since it actually displays content information... but to each their own. Lack of OIS is troublesome with the 6P if you don't take a steady shot. Otherwise, the camera is still very capable as well.

We'll see what the V20 and Pixel brings, but with the V20 lacking OLED, and Pixel having a, so far, rubbish design and lack of readily apparent innovation, I am not expecting to be amazed. No matter what software enhancements Google plans on baking into the Pixel phones, it's probably nothing groundbreaking given the Nexus developer base...
[Nexus 6P General] ixon2001:
I wonder once these Pixel Phones launch will the older Nexus phones will be put on the back burner somewhat, so for instants when Nougat 7.1 comes out with the Pixel will we also get it at the same time or be made to wait?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Who knows but Google definitely seem to be changing and the Nexus is now no more. I definitely think the Pixel phones will get features the older Nexus phones won't get.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Let's just wait until the 4th and hopefully our fears won't materialize :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
I don't see the Pixel phones being that successful. At the crazy high rumored starting price of $729 for the 32GB version, and with the rumored locked down version of Android 7.1 it will ship with. I will happily stick with the good old 6P

Google is said to be aiming at iPhone 7Plus pricing.
[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
Only way I'd get the pixel is if they significantly dropped the prices and the reviews are very good. Otherwise phones like 6P, OnePlus 3, Axon 7, etc. are much better options
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
The Nexus6P will become a collector's prize, worth zillions, hung in Art museums, etc. :cool::laugh::eek:
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Lets make 1 thing clear tho, android 7.1 on pixel wont be locked down. Its gonna be very secure for average user and impossible to root in casual methods or exploits of OS, but it will still ship with unlockable bootloader. After you unlock it, rooting couldnt be easier.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Oh wow , I don't know what to think

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
A phone? Looks very plain and generic.
[Nexus 6P General] yuppicide:
I will not be upgrading for a year or two. I bought the 6P back in March I believe, so I haven't got my money's worth yet. Besides, I really only care about upgrading my PC at home, because that's more of a necessity. My phone is supposed to be a phone for emergencies / GPS first and foremost. It's secondary job is playing games, which is does an awesome job at right now.
[Nexus 6P General] cswithxda:
+1!!

I simply never looked outside of the Nexus phones because of its OS purity. I can get a Samsung or Motorola and flash different Roms but it was never the same as the Factory Image that I can pull right off googleapis :p

Stay positive comrades! Nothing is set until the last moment, put the sentiments to the back of your mind and fully enjoy the last Nexus we have :highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] wilflare:
trying to hold out and see how this phone pans out

seriously considering getting another 6P (or OP3) for my second phone (work-only phone)
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
They released a picture of the XL...and it looks exactly the same! haha.
[Nexus 6P General] gordo80:
I am holding to my 6p... especially I got my brand new phone for $360 for 64GB version. This is one of the best devices I have ever own.
[Nexus 6P General] gorman42:
Recently bought Nexus 6P with 128GB (€ 390, new) and I intend to hold on to it. I hope minimum for 3 years if nothing astounding comes to the smartphone world (last thing to really impress was fingerprint reading, which I missed on my Note 3). The large version of Pixel, with a smaller screen than 6P, will most definitely not be of interest to me.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Thes Pixels our not cool! Could the Huawei Mate 9 be the real successor to our Nexus6 P? Sounds impressive here
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
So the rear of the the thing looks similar to the HTC 10, which is cool.

http://bgr.com/2016/09/29/google-pixel-phone-2016-leaks-photos-video/
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
I was kind if excited for this device a couple months ago, but that has drastically changed. I can get a device with better specs, and bigger screen for less money. Sorry Google......you got greedy.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I'm not trying to be cheeky , but which devices ? I can only think of the galaxy s7 /7 edge and the HTC 10, no one else matches the pixel , except for the iPhones but they're even more expensive !

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[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Basically all chinese flagship devices. For example Mi 5s plus looks incredible
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
V20 maybe. Axon 7 also?
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
The mi 5s looks indeed amazing , but it won't come to Europe or USA ( and it doesn't work properly here ) and Xiaomi's UI is basically an iOS ripoff and I would wait to see how the pictures taken by its camera come out .

LGs you its also awful just like ztes :(

Trust me , I had to learn the hard way , specs aren't everything , yes I really hope that the new Nexus phones won't cost more than 650 euros but specs aren't everything , I'm writing this message from a galaxy s7 edge which I'm gonna return because it stutters and lags more than my Nexus 6p ( and yes I'm using the exynos version ) :(

The only phone that I really enjoyed using this year , apart from the Nexus 6p was the HTC 10 but to me terrible blurry edges on the pictures was a deal breaker for me .

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[Nexus 6P General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
This happens every year and every die hard Nexus fan loves their current phone and say they will never upgrade. Yet almost every time the next Nexus is better (maybe not the 6 for some). Anyhow I would say yes if:

Improved camera performance (speed and quality without needing HDR+)

Battery life improved

exclusive killer features

reasonable price--i wouldn't pay $649 for a 32gb phone that has worse features. I gladly shelled out for a 128gb Nexus 6p though, so it will take a reasonable price to convince me to upgrade
[Nexus 6P General] Samuel Holland:
Yay or nay??😎

I'm thankful to be on 6p. I like HTC and all so if it wasn't for Angler then I wouldn't mind but I believe this has been the/my favorite/best phone to date. Thanks:)
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
We already know battery life is better.
[Nexus 6P General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
You don't know that. Google has never well optimized battery in every Nexus phone. The Nexus 4's battery was horrible despite the fact its size was comparable to most other phones then. The fact it had an off-SoC modem totally killed the drain.
[Nexus 6P General] Don_Perrignon:
SD 820 has a 14nm process vs the 810's 20nm. The 6p has better battery life than the 6's SD805 at 28nm.

You're talking about a phone from 3gens ago. I'm confident the battery life will be better.
[Nexus 6P General] bigdad1963:
Google lost me with the smaller screen and taking away front facing speakers. If they had added simultaneous voice/data, OIS and increased battery life, I would most likely have upgraded. If they additionally threw in f1.6, 16mp, narrowed the bezels and increased the screen to 6" I would have pre-ordered immediately.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
LG V20....

....it surpasses the Pixel XL in every way.......and it will be right around the same price.

- Better camera

- removable battery

- Micro SD card slot

- Bigger screen (same resolution)

- Better design IMO

.....to name a few.
[Nexus 6P General] dutchy716:
The bad news keeps coming. You know it will be the Verizon Variant.

https://twitter.com/jcase/status/781977352825778176?s=03
[Nexus 6P General] aroy97:
This AGGRAVATES me, why does Verizon care so much about bootloaders. In anyway, hopefully buying it from Google directly will be a universal variant and it will still work with Verizon.
[Nexus 6P General] 12MaNy:
Verizon reminds me of Steve Jobs. Totally clised system.
[Nexus 6P General] dutchy716:
He did also say that it could be just left over code and it might not mean a carrier bootloader locked version but I wouldn't put it past Verizon or AT&T.
[Nexus 6P General] badrsj:
one of major reasons for ditching Verizon
[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
Recently made the switch from Verizon to T-Mobile, couldn't be happier
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Good move! Did that 7 year's a go and never looked back...
[Nexus 6P General] dutchy716:
I tried T-Mobile but have zero service where I live. I did recently switch from Verizon to AT&T because we have Direct TV and got the "unlimited" data plan. Its over $100 less than what I was paying for a 20 gig Verizon plan.
[Nexus 6P General] ring_GT:
Will Google release the same software for the Nexus 6p as the one that will be running on the Pixel Phones? Im just worried as they are rebranding the device.

If they will I will definitely stick with the 6p
[Nexus 6P General] yaojinjia:
No specific reasons to upgrade...I just bought 6P, lol
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I want Tuesday to be already over , I want to know how much the phones will really cost , I mean if the pixel is really going to start at 650 $ how much is Google going to charge for the XL ? 750 $? Just like the iPhone plus in usa? ) OK the fair the iPhone costs 770 $)

Here in Germany the iPhone goes for 770 euros and the plus for 900 euros.

I seriously won't pay more than 700 euros for the pixel . If Google really charges just as much I think I'd rather get a HTC 10 for 600 euros :/

I thought about getting the iPhone plus but 900 euros is really ridiculous , but at least there's not a fragmentation issue on iOS and something so elemental like the browser works unlike chrome which is a lag fest and it has a working camera app that doesn't take 6 seconds to capture an hdr picture , but still 900 euros *sigh*

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Well, the old Nexus Phones won't get the "Pixel" launcher and its features. I'm certain the Pixel will have its own set of software features that the old Nexus phones won't get.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
To charge over €700 for the 128 XL would be madness from Google, what features are you getting for it? It's a fairly vanilla phone. I'd stretch to €700 but over that and I'll look elsewhere this year.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I really doubt that Google will charge just 50 euros more for the XL if the regular pixel starts at 650 euros :(

I know , its just terrible pricing , you can have the HTC 10 or the galaxy s7 edge for 600 euros and the regular galaxy s7 for 500 euros

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[Nexus 6P General] Ulver:
This will be the second Nexus that I will be passing on (I never got the Nexus One ha). I might get it eventually after some price drops. The Nexus 6 eventually made it to the $250 price range. There really isn't anything I'm totally blown away about the new Pixel phones.
[Nexus 6P General] RHChan84:
I will be passing on this device. I have the 6P and besides the small processor upgrade, there isn't much of an upgrade.

The only thing I like about this device is no bumps or anything. Just a smooth back. But not worth the price just to get rid of that bump.

I do hope the next Nexus is a bigger upgrade like more RAM, DAC, bigger battery, and image stabilizer for the camera. I hope they don't go the route like Apple and Motorola and remove the audio jack.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I'm just gonna leave this here ...

Pretty much all specs have leaked , they mention f 2.0 I hope that's not true that would be disappointing , the HTC 10 has f 1.8 :(

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[Nexus 6P General] Cheater912:
I don't think I can use a screen smaller than 5.7" now. That's the only thing holding me back really.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
The pixel is a BIG upgrade in terms of cpu , the 810 is pretty bad , the 821 may not be a huge upgrade regarding the 820 , but it wipes the floor with the 810.

And this device has 4 GB of RAM , do we really have use for 6 GB ? I won't miss it ... More battery drain .

And the camera does have ois

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Just such an underwhelming device.
[Nexus 6P General] steviemch:
Like many, the lack of front facing speakers and smaller screen size has left me more than happy to keep my 6p. Yeah there's an extra GB of ram, but my 6p is without doubt the best phone I've ever used/bought. Plus I pre-ordered the PlayStation VR so it was kinda one or the other.... at least for this year.

Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
An f2.0 camera? So worse low light shots than the 6P?!
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
The 6p also has a f 2.0 :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
So it does, my mistake. Still would've like it to be f. 1.8.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Maybe it was a mistake from the website and we're actually getting f 1.8 , let's wait until tomorrow , can't believe that the HTC 10 has f 1.8 but the pixel doesn't , wishful thinking I know , but one can only hope

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[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
What company is going to make a phone better than their own flagship? I wouldn't be surprised if HTC gave it an inferior camera to their flagship. Notice how every Nexus has been great because it's pure Android experience and price point but no Nexus was ever better spec-wise than the companies flagship that manufactured them. They're all competitors so it makes perfect sense to put inferior specs in it which is all the more reason Google needs to start doing everything in-house.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Another strange design thing I've noticed is the proximity and light sensor sit just above the screen. That means glass screen protectors are going to have to have a small rectangle cut out at this point. The 6P has this extending off the top speaker. It's going to look awful having that cut out in the middle of the face.
[Nexus 6P General] Asura24:
I got my 6p a couple if weeks ago reason I was traveling around US, and looks like it was right move side the new Pixel phone doesn't look that special at all. So probably waiting for the 20017 nexus phone.
[Nexus 6P General] DowntownRDB:
First negative for me is NO front facing speakers. Second is it has huge bezels. Third is rumored price – Google are you kidding me or are you just trying to emulate Apple pricing? Rumor also has it that it will be more difficult to root…sounds like a typical HTC move. The only selling point for Pixel XL is it will have have pure android. I can get a cell phone that is waterproof, has an SD card slot, equal specs and at a way better price such as the Axon 7 and a couple of others. Just saying....
[Nexus 6P General] znel52:
If the rumored price points for these phones are true Google must really not wanna sell any of these phones. The SD821 isn't enough for me to justify dropping that kinda coin on this. I expect number of sells to be very low early on hopefully forcing Google's hand at dropping the price quickly.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Wow, Huawei were originally to produce the Pixel....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...ce-pixel-phones-us-division-badly-struggling/

This HTC Pixel just seems more and more like a quick fudge almost.
[Nexus 6P General] spotmark:
I'm reserving judgement until the phones are actually released, so I can see them in real life. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Huawei Mate 9 will have an unlockable bootloader and be compatible with Verizon's service. I know, long shot, but I'll wait and see.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
I have a feeling the Huawei Mate 9 will have an unlockable bootloader... That would be Game over for Pixel.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Man, I haven't seen anything about this damn phone that justifies the $650 price tag. It has LESS features than the 6p.