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[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
I agree with you, however, everyone seems to forget the whole purpose of Nexus devices...Development.

I am very upset and glad at the same time with Google. The Nexus line was for a core purpose which was for developers. Then they decided to money grab the line big time. I'm glad that we can get pure Android but I feel like because of the Nexus line's popularity, it got to their heads when it comes to pricing. It used to be that you could get the Nexus for dirt cheap compared to other devices. Now it's almost up there along with Samsung. It's definitely up there with LG in terms of pricing for sure.
[Nexus 6P General] Sammae7:
If the leaked photo is to be believed, I'd like to know why it has such huge ugly bezels if there are no dual speakers, fingerprint sensor, or capacitive buttons on the front. Makes no sense. I'd of preferred a larger looking HTC 10.
[Nexus 6P General] scandalousk:
Well we don't actually know what Marlin looks like. The leaked pictures are of sailfish. While rumors are that the phones look very similar, we have no way to verify any of it.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Because it's using an HTC "off the shelf" design and most probably parts to save money and because of the Nexus time constraints.
[Nexus 6P General] blinde:
That's just horse****. Google could easily put money to it's devices and most of all put time to develope those phones better. I really hope that it changes in the future like it's been rumored.
[Nexus 6P General] drago10029:
False... will the Nexus Marlin upgrade to me.
[Nexus 6P General] spotmark:
I'm hoping those leaked photos have wraps/cases on them, like they do with cars in development. Otherwise, those phones in the pics are bloated, ugly, crap, that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
[Nexus 6P General] Sammae7:
Yeah, I was debating on canceling my Axon 7 in favor of the Marlin but I'm not feeling these alleged design leaks, mostly the huge bezels.

Axon 7 has a beautiful look to it but I prefer the software of the Nexus devices.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Google contracts a company to make the Nexus phone. From the interviews and comments from Huawei last year, there's limited time and it's a very tight schedule. I'm sure the company that gets contracted tries to save time and money by using their off the shelf design and parts. At the moment, it's the nature of Nexus Phones.
[Nexus 6P General] jamaniek:
I will have to see performance comparison and final design, but most probably no. 6P is still an amazing device. Feels great, 5,7" display is gorgeous, battery life is more than good,, camera is amazing IMO and last but not least it has front facing stereo speakers. Something that once you try it, you don't wanna go back. At least for me.

Google would have to come out with something big, because as of now Marlin looks like a phone without any major improvements aside from SoC.
[Nexus 6P General] zetsumeikuro:
HTC = automatic pass.
[Nexus 6P General] realpros:
Agree it is an excellent machine
[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
What about the OnePlus 3? Switching to T-Mobile soon and will need a new phone. Only concern is OnePlus software updates to N
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Exactly what I'm gonna do. One plus 3 should get N quickly enough.... Obviously not Nexus quick.... But soon enough. Plus community development on OnePlus 3 seems strong.

Just sucks I have to wait for my Verizon contract to end.... Not willing to hand over my old phone for T-mobile to eat my ETF.
[Nexus 6P General] gleggie:
I believe t mobile will pay your ETF up to $350, I'd Google and call them to be sure
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
The fine print.....for them to pay anything.... They take your old phone and require you to buy new from them. At least that is how it reads on their site
[Nexus 6P General] LLStarks:
I'm almost certain that Marlin will have WiFi calling, VoLTE, HD voice, 3x carrier aggregation and all-around better support for T-Mobile's network than the OP3.
[Nexus 6P General] umbrokhan:
Nexus 6P, Nexus phone get 3 years of Major updates.

HTC, LG, Sony, Samsung etc only get 2 year of Major updates
[Nexus 6P General] zerokizuna:
From what I have seen there is little chance I'm going to upgrade. Not a major bump in specs and the "leaks" show a design that I dislike. Nexus 6P is still a solid device. The 6P's QHD screen is still good, unless anything is going to truly jump to 4K (looking at you Z5 Premium) its still comparable to pretty much any phone out right now. The increase to 4gb of RAM would be nice but if I'm looking for RAM I might as well jump to the OnePlus 3. Bottom facing speakers are a definite downgrade from the front facing speakers on the 6P and even if HTC implements something like the boomsound on the HTC 10 it probably still won't match real front facing speakers. No wireless charging doesn't matter to me cause I've never had a phone with it. As long as there is an implementation of a form of quick charging that would work, the Nexus 6P still charges plenty fast for me though. Even the SD821 isnt really that much of a draw. While the 6P isnt going to be Daydream capable, the Axon 7 is and it will probably be equivalent or cheaper than the Nexus Marlin.

Overall there is basically nothing that has been shown so far that will make me jump to the Marlin over the 6P. Especially the fact that in Australia it cost me $1000 AUD to get my 6P in the first place, its going to last me for a while. While overall the 2016 flagships are mostly underwhelming, if I did change daily driver, i'd easily pick something like the Oneplus 3 or Axon 7 over the Marlin. Using the N developer preview really doesn't make me rush to get N on my phone. The Nexus 6P is still a solid choice over pretty much all 2016 flagships, sure 6gb of ram, audio dacs and water resistance would be nice, these features aren't good enough to really push me over. Hell, I dont even think much of the 2017 flagships will get me to change from my 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] ace-user:
Don't go to oneplus, their customer service is crap and it will take u 3 months to get N and it will be a beta release and u'll probably have to wait another 3 months for a stable release. That's 6 months for an update, crap company.
[Nexus 6P General] Petarsson:
yep, I loved my OPO, but OnePlus devices are cheap for a reason...;)

I unfortunately smashed my 6P on the ground and am now using a S7, that I got pretty cheap...will wait for the final Nexus devices and prices and then decide, whether I get a 6P again or go with the new ones...at least the 6P will be way cheaper, as soon as the 2016 Nexus come out...

btw: downfiring speakers make me sad...front facing speakers: one of the greatest things since N6!
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Why don't you go with a note 7 or s7 edge or keep that s7 you have already ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Just pulled the trigger on OnePlus 3.......Just underwhelmed with the specs for the new Nexus :(
[Nexus 6P General] bryce850:
Not quite the same but preorderd my wife a note 7 so have been playing with it all weekend, yes it's a nice phone and the screen is great and loads of out of the box customisation. However it's no faster then my 6p the 6p screen is right there with the note7 and no bloatware lol, the bottom facing speaker is a big deal breaker for me to.

Note 7 is a great phone the looks and feel are wonderful but just makes me love my 6p even more because it's right there with it plus has the features I care the most about front facing speakers and vanilla Android.
[Nexus 6P General] bigblueshock:
Just saw a rumor for prices http://www.nexusblog.net/htc-nexus-2016-marlin-sailfish-prices-hinted/

I would have been on the fence at $499 for the Marlin. At $599? Sorry, no thank you =/
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
That's a bit too much. The 6p was like $500 or so, right? So we're paying more money for a smaller phone, makes no sense.
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Wow....ya.....making me more and more secure with my very recent OnePlus 3 purchase.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
As long as I can have something that has strong development I'm fine, maybe the oneplus 3 is the way to go.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Pretty much as expected.
[Nexus 6P General] GohanBurner:
Ever since the M7 came out, all my phones from here on out NEED to have front firing speakers. It would be nice if a new Nexus would come out with those speakers and the 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom next to the charging port. That, IMHO, is where it belongs. So, if this new Nexus has a bottom firing speaker I'm out.
[Nexus 6P General] CraigP17:
solid device. i had too many issues losing data and GPS where I never had issues with my 6P though. I sold the OP3 last week and went back to my 6P. again, great device for the price, but they def cut corners and my ATT data coverage and GPS are not good using the Op3
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
Well Google announced today that the LGV20 will be the first phone to run 7.0 out of the box. It's scheduled to be revealed September 6 and relased late September so we're not looking at a new Nexus release until October or November this year.
[Nexus 6P General] kibmikey1:
There are a lot of things I look for in my phones. I suppose hardware is the first thing I notice. Processor, ram, storage, etc. The next thing I look at is design. I like the fingerprint scanner on the back. Having any buttons on the front seems awkward and inefficient to me. As far as speakers go, these days I either use headphones or bluetooth speakers for music through my phone, so front facing speakers are really not an issue for me. Another thing I used to look at, but lately haven't been able to because of the phablet rage, is the size of the phone. 5.5 and up is really too big for me, but since it was pretty much forced on us, I had no choice. There are pretty much 3 choices for me when it comes to devices this year, OnePlus, ZTE and Nexus (1 of the 2). OnePlus has nice hardware, but their software doesn't do it for me. The issues with charging and updates concern me as well. ZTE really outdid themselves with the Axon this year. It's a solid phone all around, although their software could use some tweaking. Add to that the ability to unlock the bootloader, and things really open up for it. A solid choice, no doubt. In the end, it comes down to weighing all of these things. At the end of the day, with the all metal design, size, identical specs (except for the screen, which I'm ok with), regular updates, and ability to act as a canvas for my will, the Nexus Sailfish is the phone I've decided to go with.

TL;DR - Nexus Sailfish
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
This really sucks , I mean what's the hold up, nougat is already out and the parts for the new nexus phones have been out since more than a few months , I mean is not like they're gonna use a snapdragon 821 :/

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The new Nexus Nougat version perhaps isn't finished yet? Hence the later MR1 releases.
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
Will Marlin have a notification LED? I can't stand notifications waking up the screen. Ambient, begone! May just keep my N6 until it winks out.
[Nexus 6P General] Sammae7:
I'm so impatient waiting on this device. The lack of almost any confirmed info regarding the look of the device is killing me. I need to upgrade and I'm trying to hold off on the Axon 7 or HTC 10 for some more info on the Marlin.
[Nexus 6P General] r34p3rex:
If the current rumored specs are true... no way. I'm not liking this shrinking screen trend. I loved the size of my N6.. was disappointed when the 6P got a 5.7", but I'll got used to it over time. It still feels a bit small sometimes. 5.5" though? Common.

Lack of front facing speakers is quite disappointing too. Aside from that, everything else seems more of a sidegrade than an upgrade
[Nexus 6P General] Breezer23:
We'll see how much it costs. I'd like to support HTC though. I would hate to see them go under.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Looks like it'll be the same timeframe as last year, the end of October release. I think we can also pretty much guarantee the leaks we have seen are real.
[Nexus 6P General] Sammae7:
I was hoping the leaks were the Sailfish. I know a few places are saying the two devices will look identical. I just don't know how I feel about that glass window in the back of the device. I've heard it could be used to scroll but that'll leave a wide open area on the back of cases. Just more to break/crack during a drop.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I just hope it's Gorilla Glass 4 and not 5!!
[Nexus 6P General] imtjnotu:
Smaller screen... Big ass chin.... No front facing speakers..... No reason I'll leave my 6p unless zte releases the powered up axon seven
[Nexus 6P General] InfiniteReality:
I'm stuck with getting a Marlin or Sailfish. I miss having a Nexus and the Samsung S7E sucks. I wish I had a different carrier, being on Sprint OnePlus3 and Axon aren't options for me.
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Well, if you're in the market for a new phone, wouldn't you be out of contract anyway.... Just jump ship, get a OnePlus 3 and go to another carrier..... Doesn't seem like anything to is holding you back unless you got others on your plan in contract
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
I dont see op3 as upgrade to 6p, so why would anyone choose it instead of new nexus? Is it just me?
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
There's not a great amount of options this year I feel. The OP3 isn't an upgrade from the 6P,the Note 7 is stupidly expensive and a scratch magnet (and locked down) and the new Nexii don't look great. I'm bored with the 6P but there's nothing really out there.
[Nexus 6P General] InfiniteReality:
If my 6p wouldn't have crapped out and I have to send to Huawei to fix, I would be out of contract. But since they take 2 weeks to fix a phone, I had to get something in the mix so picked up a S7E. It's better than nothing but i miss having a Nexus. Guess I shouldn't have sold the 6p after getting it fixed, but I just didn't trust same thing to not happen again.

Totally agree. If I still had the 6p, it'd be hard to jump to new one. I just can't wait to get back to normal and owning a Nexus (or whatever they call it this year).
[Nexus 6P General] Stupifier:
Haven't really heard any objective evidence saying the OP3 is a downgrade from the 6P......quite the contrary actually. Unless you are one of those Front-Speaker dealbreaker types, OP3 seems fine. I mean honestly, Android and Apple will never make a perfect phone. If they did, what brings you back next year to buy another one. In the end, you'll make a sacrifice somewhere and to say you aren't is naive.
[Nexus 6P General] thefallen924:
Im curious as to what would pique your interest in a new device. Marlin will pretty much be a 6p with upgraded internals. It's really all about your preference in software at this point and nexus devices are all about the stock experience, so aside from being faster, i really dont see what a new nexus device can have to stand out that much.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
2k screen. I like the higher resolution screens and I use VR.

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Phones are plateuing and yes, there not much else you can add. To be honest, the Note 7 looks great, the display is incredible (much better than the 6P when I compared them), SD card slot, packed with features, great design. If it wasn't so locked down with little development, I'd buy it tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P General] thefallen924:
Totally agree. Note 7 looks amazing. if only Samsung rolled out updates within a reasonable timeframe, i'd be willing deal with touchwiz elements I cant get rid of. But my ocd wont let me...at this very moment i'm wondering why it's taking google so long to release the 6p factory image so the guys here on xda can start working their magic
[Nexus 6P General] Pappy35:
For me, the Note 7 is a really nice piece of kit. No doubt about that at all. Coming from my Note 5 though, I had trouble with battery durability which I place squarely on all the extra bloat it carries.

Forget about all the carrier junk I disabled, Samsung's own crap kept nagging me. Samsung Pay, after the MM update, would nag me, via a notification, every day about how great it was, and how I should make it my default and this could not be defeated without first making it the default (requiring I provide my CC info) and THEN I could deactivate it. This kind of crap pushed me over the edge. I had to wait 8 months to get MM, the battery life when from "eh" to bad, and then I had to deal with nagging bloatware? To hell with that. I am totally loving pure Android...
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Op3 only has better cpu and more ram. Battery, camera, screen, speakers, os is better on 6p, so how is it an upgrade? Now take next nexus device which also will come with sd820 and more ram, and tell me how is op3 a better device lol? Im not hating or anything, op3 is good device for the money you pay, but i dont understand the hype. Company is known for being atrocious when it comes to customer service and software upgrades.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Why do you think the s7 edge sucks? Because of touchwiz ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Petarsson:
because touchwiz makes me crying through the night...:silly:
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
As much as Touchwiz causes lag and slowdown, stock Android is also very boring. It's really a trade off on whether you want feature packed Roms or a Vanilla experience.
[Nexus 6P General] Petarsson:
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stock at least does only what it's asked for...if you turn on bluetooth on the s7, there is a pop up whether you want to connect with paired devices or pair a new one...everytime! all of my paired devices connect automatically, but i always have to close that window manually...and if touchwiz tells me to watch out, because it's dangerous, if i turn up the volume when on headphones! and then i have to take the s7 out of my pocket to tell him "ok" EVERYTIME...i mean...c'mon samsung?!

and these functions are not stoppable! maybe with root, but then there's knox...

on nexus devices you can at least root and get xposed or a custom rom which fits best, to add the functions you want or change the ones you don't like!

i definitely go back...soon!
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Yeah, I agree Touchwiz is crazy and there's no need for all the bloat, it's a horrible OS. I just wish as Nexus users, for a change we could get a true premium stock Android phone instead of a hardware compromise.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I probably will , now that we're on summer the s810 is heating too much , the Nexus 6p is a really great phone , all I wanted was snapdragon 820 ( check ) , smaller bezel ( by the looks of the leaks they have grown even more , fail ) a brighter screen ( hopefully that's the case ) , better battery life (probably that's the case with the 820) , more ram (check ) , a better build ( the Nexus 6p is not too durable , probably that would be the case since HTC is building it ) and a better and FASTER camera , Google get your s**t together with that awful an slow camera app

I'm shocked to see how many people the phone speakers I would give them up in a heart beat in favor of smaller bezels , what are you using them for ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
OIS is the deal breaker for me. I can't live with the 6P shakey videos. I'm not overly impressed with the Marlin or Sailfish but if they have OIS then I'll upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] 83097markcynt:
I love my 6P and like many others have stated, no front speakers is a deal breaker for me.
[Nexus 6P General] FoxyDrew:
The 6P's screen brightness is awful, and it gets way too hot. If the Marlin fixes these issues I will get it, unless it doesn't still have front firing speakers.

However if it's waterproof/resistant I'll be able to live without front firing speakers.
[Nexus 6P General] ImARaptor:
Probably. Don't mind the 0.2 inch difference in screen size, but will definitely love the support, faster processor, and all. BUT, only if it has U.S. carrier support, because buying out of pocket is beneficial, but easier if i just use JUMP or something to trade in the device. I'm also hoping for maybe an IR blaster, IP67 waterproof support (but I doubt it), but will still like to be ahead of the curve. I don't think they will disappoint tbh
[Nexus 6P General] cronugs:
I will be keeping the 6P it's a great phone and will easily see me through 2016/17. If HTC get serious I might consider the 2017 Nexus, but to be honest, the smaller screen/no front speakers on the upcoming 2016 nexus is just a huge letdown coming from the 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] BoydCrowder:
I must be the only one looking forward to the Marlin build. Was very disappointed in the ugly (imo) design of the camera hump across the entire top back on the 6P. That alone pushed me to the Moto X Pure Edition. All signs point to a Snapdragon 821 in the Marlin. I am 100% in. HTC build quality, along with their quality speakers regardless of firing placement, will be a significant upgrade.

Finally, I love the new design.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
You were put off by the camera bump but are OK with the HUGE (hopefully glass and not plastic ) thing on the back on the Nexus 6 2016 ? :'(

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[Nexus 6P General] dramake:
I try to keep any phone I buy for at least two years, so that's what I will do with the 6P as long as it is working.

I will think of changing it when Nexus 2017 comes around ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Tsara Bomba:
The no front speakers is a deal breaker for me. Incredible sound on the 6P - strange that with HTC making the new Nexus phone that they are going with bottom speakers.
[Nexus 6P General] blackwrx02:
HTC can barely stay afloat. Its clear they don't understand the market, and even with Google's help, there is absolutely NO way I'd touch this phone. Bottom facing speakers are a prime example of their lack of understanding
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
2017 Year of the replacement for the Nexus 6P

I'm waiting for 2017.

If I'm paying full retail, I'll wait until Nexus Protect on my phone expires.
[Nexus 6P General] sharkie405:
I'm with most other people on this thread. I'm not going for the Marlin. Smaller screen? Uuumm...no thanks. Bottom facing speakers? Uuumm..no thanks. I thought for sure they'd bring back expandable storage. I can't believe they don't see this as a must. I've had to wipe my internal storage like 5 times already since having had this phone. They should at least make it like a separate partition so that I can have music and photos stored that will never get wiped. There's literally nothing to get excited about for a 6P owner. It actually kind of makes me happy because I just bought my 6P about a month ago. I was reluctant to buy it because I knew the next Google phone was coming out soon, but after reading about it's specs, I'm glad I went ahead with the 6P. I've been an HTC fan boy since back in the days of the mogul, but they've let themselves get stagnant. They've not put out anything to be really excited about in a long time.
[Nexus 6P General] krolla03:
Probably not. Since HTC has had a pretty horrible track record with their last 3-4+ phones I can only assume they will mess up the Nexus.

What is really funny to me is how HTC seems to royally mess up one key feature. HTC was known for their front facing "BoomSound" speakers. And then here they decide to go with down facing speakers.

Back in the day of the HTC One X and One S and One X+ and Evo and Sensation etc HTC was known for having really good cameras. However, with the One M9 M8 M7 the camera has been pretty piss poor.

The only reason i would go with the new Nexus is if it has some miracle camera. And since HTC hasn't been able to get the camera right for the last 3+ years AND how Nexus in general has has subpar cameras / camera software i seriously doubt this will happen

And we already know the 6P is going to get Android N and most likely Android O

So really the only thing the new Nexus will be is certified for Googles new VR which does not interest me at all.