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[G4 General] jinderation:
Oh really then they wouldnt had extended the warranty upto 15 months thats why most devices that were produced in may still have warranty left preferably s/n with 505 to 509 n thats upto LG to find some excuse to not fix either bootloader unlock or rooted or simply deny it because of availability of parts u know there has been shortages of motherboards even...my H815 Taiwan didnt even had a bootloader unlock as of yet n most probably well never have that how bad lg rolls...then there is screen burn issue these phones are so defective u cant even point out what problem starts n where it ends..even v10 has started to have the bootloop issue like the g4 many videos on youtube...so u tell me only an idiot would waste hundred of dollars on these new phones now this is my 1st lg experience i always used samsung no matter what but one of my friends prefered to buy a g4 because of how famous the g3 was ..which im not denying was indeed a good phone made by lg only they screwed big time on the g4..
[G4 General] Hani88:
It happened to be with locked bootloader

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My phone is 1000000% stock with locked bootloader and I got bootloop after 7 months of using it. Mine is 505

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Yes surely!!

What about people who don't have guarantee?? LG must fix them all for free !!!

And what about wasting time in waiting for repairing procedures?? I've waited for 28 days and this something terrible and caused a lot of problems to me

Yes yes surely i agree
[G4 General] anerty:
Done, with 1 star notation.

Thank you for the heads'up man :)
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Where have they 'extended warranty' ?

LG's policy, accept it or use something else.

There is no screen burn issue on an LCD.

Like any other phone ? that is why xda exists isn't it.

And the solution is the same as mentioned earlier.

I want to know when you are sending your phone back to LG Taiwan.

instead of *****ing and whining over here. You ain't screwed yet.

I picked the G4 because of how good the camera is and its other attributes. I did not feel any attraction for the G3 whatsoever. On elook at the camera interface of the G3 and i knew this was not the right one to go with. So it was with big surprise when i see what they did with the G4 and then extended with the V10. The G5 took it further and there is a lot of anticipation for what the V20 will be like :)

LG is doing pretty well.
[G4 General] jinderation:
.....no one gives a **** here about what u picked up It doesnt matter what u say facts are facts.....u dont wanna accept it uh too bad...lg will be under heavy losses after g4 period people will not buy from lg
[G4 General] chosonnom:
In US how to get LG-H815 repaired by warranty.

I am in US.

The thing is looking at the forums, even V10, G5 have this issue.

Even version G4 1.1 version has this issue.

I don't think they have a permanent fix for this.

Anyways I need to get it fixed. As soon as that happens I am selling it.
[G4 General] jinderation:
Correction its s/n number 5xx some even reported in 6xx too also after repairs by lg bootloop can also still happen again n then again yessssss its pretty annoying so u think u wanna sale it the new owner is going to come back to haunt u if the bootloot happens again then u will have to ship to lg for repairs again....ufff take note dont buy from lg again
[G4 General] WTF?:
Quit being a scare-monger, Donald Trump - this affected a tiny fraction of the million+ of LG G4's sold! - I feel bad for a few hundred people this affected, but to be fair, LG did fix the phones at no cost. What about the huge issues Apple has had with many phones they produced, that affected MILLIONS of customers, so go complain about them, not LG.

Do you work for Apple or Samsung?
[G4 General] Abdl:
You too quit flaming threads telling people they are scare mongers. Whether you like it or not bootloop is a very common and ongoing issue of the lg g4. Just because your phone didnt bootloop doesn't mean others' didn't or won't. Just be thankfuk and shut up!
[G4 General] jinderation:
I feel sorry for u too cuz someday u wanna sell ur fone n most probably no one is going to buy it for the bootloop issue
[G4 General] WTF?:
Yeah, well if the price is so depressed, then how come all of the European models that can be bootloader unlocked at still on ebay for 350 pounds (which is close to $455) - doesn't sound like the resale value is hurting at all, quite the contrary!
[G4 General] jinderation:
Like i said most ppl arent tech nerds like us they dont know about the bootloop issue but surely they will someday if they buy lg.. 455$ for g4 is bit eccentric since u can even get a lg v10 for 450US$ here in US that is used under warranty by lg so any one selling at that price must be an idiot...i sold my g4 for 210US$ n it was h815 taiwan...s/n 6xx cost around 250$ to 270$ depending upon condition n accessories
[G4 General] WTF?:
If you know where to get a Euro-country code H815 at a low price like $215 or whatever, then please enlighten the rest of us.

Taiwan or SEA code phones and other non-Euro types are no good for unlocking the bootloader, so the price of those is not really relevant.
[G4 General] jinderation:
Bro i have seen plenty of EUR versions of phone with unlocked bootloader even tmobile versions with preunlocked bootloader under 200US$ on ebay or swappa ...we have plenty of retail stores also here in california the only problem is most of them have s/n 5xx like i said the g4s market has dropped due to the bootloop issue either ppl are not buying it or buying at low prices...used are bought under 300US$ for s/n 6xx not more than that
[G4 General] jinderation:
One user has reported even with s/n 6xx g4s are bootlooping ....well here we go again lg
[G4 General] WTF?:
I think a lot of these people are sweating on their phones, using counterfeit LG batteries, or doing other stupid crap (like leaving them in the car when it is -20 F. etc.), mine is the notorious 505, which is supposedly the worse one, it is 15 months old and runs like it came down from heaven!
[G4 General] vmartinez39:
The only time I'd consider lawsuit against LG was what they did with LG G2X, that was such a disaster I swore never ever ever to buy an LG phone. Then I got myself Nexus 4 -> Nexus 5 -> G4 -> G5... see the pattern?

I could never forgive what they did to the G2X and how support was dropped. If anything I've noticed LG battery life always was something to be desired. Still is except for the G4 because of removable battery.

Well my G4 never ran into issues and hoping it stays that way. I just wish these dam phones were more like Nexus devices.
[G4 General] LightInDark:
This post is so stupid i will always recommend LG phones over other brands. My sony, samsung and motorola android phones always get software issues and bootloops ive had to reflash my nexus 6 3 times for faulty updates my sony breaks randomly requiring a reflash and my samsung constantly got bootloops. Lg never let me down. My first smartphone was an LG GT540 then lg optimus 3d then lg g2 now lg g4 amazing phones.
[G4 General] gedas5:
What are you talking about? Your issues are related to software. This is a hardware issue that is affecting more and more users as the time goes on and the big core's pins get loose over time.
[G4 General] jinderation:
Did nothing it was working fine on LP even high end gaming it was never that much hot i just updated to latest marshmallow after a couple of days the new version arrived so i was tempted just for the same of doz3 n battery life n the new skin i updated then it started making my phone very hot then all of a sudden bootloop now the device is just a paper weight cant fix it since it cant be shipped since lg tawian wont accept it via phone or via mail ...even if they fix it the chances are high of having bootloop again....
[G4 General] jinderation:
Why did u buy a lg device clearly u made mistake twice n thrice with the g5...
[G4 General] raptorddd:
only one 604 from russian guy in PDANET something like that fowrum..

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you one of the lucky ones...i also heard they bootloop sitting on table doing nothing.. some browsing openein pics .. ect..

this is my 2nd replacement...

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easy softwar related .. flash stock firmware.. hardware sent to LG. very different situations..
[G4 General] Abdl:
So let me get something from what you said and from what iv read others say...the g4 heats up more on MM than on LP and has more chance of bootloop on MM than on LP??? If yes then im probably gonna downgrade mine once it arrives.
[G4 General] Riardon:
That's absolutely bull's biological waste. The Bootloop issue is a hardware defect. It doesn't matter which ROM or what software you have. If it happens it happens period. The heating is a complete different thing. I have no heating issues with latest MM firmwares. Use your phone like normal. Not all G4's bootooping. If it happens take it to LG and they will fix it under warranty. Android version won't save you from this. So keep using it like you do make your backups from time to time and don't worry.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
Okay, I've been reading through this thread and I have to say I completely agree with the OP.

My phone is currently on repair, second week, and they ALMOST rejected me because my bootloader is unlocked, in fact they did at first but then I threatened them and explained THEY SOLD ME A BROKEN PHONE, so it doesn't matter if I did or didn't unlock it it would've still looped!!

My phone looped while regular usage.

The person who's saying it's heat related... C'mon... My friends S4 heats up to mind 50Â°C and it hadn't looped yet, almost 3years old

People who are saying if we modded our phones it's our fault, well to you I say software cannot break hardware, I mean flashing roms etc, that CANNOT affect hardware and this is a MANUFACTURER fault!

LG did accept my phone on repair but only because I felt like I know more than them...

They MUST repair this under full warranty because it's their fault and they did admit it!!!

I'm frustrated and very disappointed LG customer... Waiting for my replacement and then I will sell this phone even though I really do looveee iiitt!!

Best regards
[G4 General] raptorddd:
i beleive then run cooler with less stress... when modified..
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
I was actually running a debloated version with less apps = less stress

Still no excuse for this...
[G4 General] arvarobert:
I can say that heating up can be caused by software,why? When i bought my SE Xperia mini in 2011 (Android 2.3.4)the known issue was heating up (search internet if you don't believe me).I played heavy games on it like NOVA 3,Modern Combat 3,4 ,Need For Speed,Real Racing 3,etc.After playing i needed to put it down on something to cool it down fast.After 5-6 months i get a software update from Sony to 4.0.4.The issue was gone.After a month i flashed back the stock 2.3.4 (DeOdexed) firmware because i didn't liked the ICS,and guess what: the heating up is NO issue anymore.I can play the same games as before without the issue.

So,i think it can be software related problem.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
I see your point, you're right, but i don't think it could go that far to actually cause a loose connector?
[G4 General] arvarobert:
I'm not saying it causes only the software.What can be,i don't know.Yes, i'm very disappointed in LG too,but...what can we doo?
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
At least some of us are lucky to have our phones repaired... But it's really a disgrace that they won't accept some phone under certain circumstances...
[G4 General] arvarobert:
If the problem is caused by connectors or pin(s),why replcing the whole MB? There are instruments for measuring such things.
[G4 General] jinderation:
I dont know about the real reason it was working fine on LP but i did see some severe heating issue on MM using heavy games etc so although i rarely play even...since the bootloop is some how connected with heating issue so if the phone is heated somehow u have more chances of having bootloop i realy think all g4 manufactured are defective its a design some how the engineers made a critical mistake in the blue print so even after fixing the phone bootloop occurs
[G4 General] jinderation:
Are u using heavy apps n games please try im sure u will have bootloop then u can send it to lg n tell us ur experience with them
[G4 General] Riardon:
I'm sorry but I won't believe this unless you provide solid proof. Everyone comes and say his theory leading others to believe unfounded claims. Many phones got Bootloop while normal browsing, others with screen turned off and listening to music. If the hardware issue is a weak soldered connector then it can happen whenever it pleases. By the same logic you must not even charge the phone because it heats. Anyway since the phone has 2 years warranty in EU at least and LG is fixing it then use it like you normally would. Get your backups and you will be fine. You have a high chance this issue will never manifest on your device. Not all G4s are suffering from this.
[G4 General] Abdl:
Gotta agree with this
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
It does happen randomly, I was literally texting and a t froze for 5 seconds, shut down then looped. People are claiming it happens while the phone is just sitting on the table, doing nothing...

I really don't think it's heat related because most phone get as warm or even worse then G4
[G4 General] raptorddd:
not heat related but think it it disolders then that means heat has a role here... i really think heat would make this problem appear quicker.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
Oooh I'm sorry, I didn't understand

Yeah, heat may make this problem appear quicker but the problem is still there...
[G4 General] raptorddd:
yeah problem is there just waiting to happen.....
[G4 General] One Twelve:
How to tell if they really replaced the mb ? is there any software util that can see the serial# of the mobo

lgphonefrom works out from the imei. imei does not change i've heard. So it looks like the same board. It may or may not be. Some people got the device back and all was done was it was just reflashed. Not replaced as problem appeared again within a month. Then it goes back a second time and a replacement is done (based on the worksheet) and the problem seems gone.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
They told me they will replace the whole motherboard
[G4 General] jinderation:
U dont need to believe me ur only going to suffer because of this its just a plain warning not to use in latest update in MM since there is no root method n also if u happen to be in one u cant use disable the core method u need to be in LP rooted preferred to make it run n save ur backups no one is stopping u too use it dont know about new devices since bootlloop takes some months to eventually happen ...if ur covered in warranty that doesnt mean ur device isnt going to be bootloop again n then again after repairs ur frustrations not mine
[G4 General] jinderation:
Yes heating does happen to make it quicker i 100% agree since the new update in MM some certain models dont have bootloader unlock or root the overclocking or underclocking in stock might pertake in heating up the phone while in root the phone is pretty much cooler even using customs roms or kernels...ur here for a long time u can remember some people have reported here the freezer method or the oven method some how helped them in flashing the disable the core method so it is heat related
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Right, a few people have told me that's what the service report says.

Am asking whether there is a way for the user to verify this actually happened.

New mobo should have a different serial, so how to find out what that new serial# is.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
I'll let you know when I get the phone back
[G4 General] raptorddd:
Good point.. Oven or hair dryer.. Use heat to resolder the big cores..

Freezer prevents from heating phone up and allowing it to boot..

Modded TOT disables nig cores...

So seems like the big cores disconects or has bad solder making it hotter then its allow to be. Like it passes the limit and bootloops .. Freezing prevent it from reaching the limit.. Ots vey complicated am just saying what ove seen.
[G4 General] WTF?:
People get a very distorted view of reality on XDA - I know over 100 LG G4 owners in real life, and exactly NONE of them have ever had the "bootloop" problem.

I am not trying to minimize the impact on the unfortunate folks who had this happen, but people here act like "most" LG G4's suffer from this problem, when in the real world, it is a TINY fraction of the million+ of these phones that were sold. (most of which were 505's by the way, the launch model run.)

So if you are an owner of one of these, or thinking of owning one, try and ignore the Nervous Nellies, the doom & gloom people, this is a great phone which is super reliable for 99%+ of owners, and has a combination of features (removable battery & SD card, camera, screen, sound, speed) that cannot be beat by any phone out there, even at 15 months after launch.

PS - my 505 has been dropped over 100 times and has been flashed with different ROMs & versions over 100 times, and has never had a hiccup. (and I would not sell it for US$500)

Also, my phone runs super-cool temps and super-long battery life, and I attribute this to app selection - even though my phone has over 300 apps installed, if an app heats up my phone, it gets kicked off (such as Facebook & Facebook messenger, for example)
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
I've flashed 100 custom roms myself and never have I ever had an issue, until one day it got stuck in bootloop while I was literally texting.

Nobody's saying this is for ALL the G4s out there but I'd say a pretty unacceptable number of devices has this and the number ia rising...
[G4 General] Abdl:
Okay. But i doubt some of your statements. 1. You wouldn't sell your phone for $500,i simply don't believe that.

2. Your phone runs 'Super-cool' huhn. Dude it either you're living in the north pole or simply have a wrong meaning of a coolness. Btw,which rom and kernel are you rocking,out of curiosity?
[G4 General] WTF?:
Believe it! - even at any budget, this phone cannot be replaced, if I sold it for $500 or even $800, what phone could I buy that has a removable battery, blazing speed, the best camera out there, great screen & sound, and can be easily bootloader unlocked and rooted? - I would be a fool to sell it at any price until there is another phone out there that is not a step down in some of these areas.

Yes, it runs as cool as any phone I have ever owned in the last 7 years, and I live in the southern USA where it is hot and humid and over 90F every day during summer, but I attribute the cool running to several factors, elimination of LG/Google bloatware, elimination of ads via AdAway, and I do not allow rogue ill-designed apps on my phone (but have over 300 good apps loaded) and I utilize a few apps that probably help on the cool running - here are the apps that have super-user root privileges on my phone:

● AdAway

● BusyBox Pro

● ClockSync

● Faster GPS

● Link2SD

● Naptime

● Quick Boot

● Root Explorer

● Trimmer

PS - get your phone running cool, and battery life will go through the roof, the two are precisely related!

I am using stock MM ver. 20D - debloated using Link2SD
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
This is all just personal preference

Maybe someone doesn't care about swapping their batteries and is okay to charge his phone during night and trust me, there are a lot of phone that can go up to 6-7h SOT on a single charge which is more than enough! There are definitely better speakers than the one on the G4 which is a backfacing mono speaker and you cannot compare it to something like 6P or M9 sound wise. Amazing screen and camera? Yeah, it does have really nice screen I wish it was a bit brighter and it does have a nice camera, but I doubt it's the best out there, same goes for the performance

Now, don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but if I had money, I'd go for something else without looking back, so don't judge strictly on your own opinion or preference, it's a nice phone but like every other it has it's down sides
[G4 General] WTF?:
Yes, I definitely have the "personal preference" of a cool running phone that lasts for 2 days on a charge!

and sure, you can pick out a single category (like speaker) that there is a better phone out there, but my point was that there is no replaceable battery phone that is great is all of the areas I ennumerated and also bootloader unlockable.

A phone that I cannot unlock the bootloader and root in order to block ads, or has some stupid built-in battery that gets weak after a year and requires a major repair to replace is a non-starter with me, disqualified from the get-go.
[G4 General] thecoldone123:
Okay, I get that, I really can't think of a phone that has both of those features, but something like a Nexus 6P that has a greater support from google or xda developers is a better option at least for me, if I had a Nexus 6P with a removable 4000mah battery, water resistance and the camera of S7... I'll stop dreaming

I get your point and you're completely right, but the hardware issue is actually wide spread even on some other variants like T mobile one or H818 etc... There are people complaining all around the world and that's a fact... Unfortunately, we're not as lucky as you are and our phone did got stuck in bootloop... Maybe someone's will as well, not that I want that, but you can never know if your phone has the issue or not...
[G4 General] raptorddd:
unlocking bootloader and stopping unnecessary proces or services does help.. its not cold .. but runs less hot than stock..
[G4 General] WTF?:
A phone is "cold" to me if all parts of the phone are the same temperature (room temperature) whether phone is on or off. This describes my phone unless I am doing some really intense, like videos for a long time, and then I feel a very slight warmth in the power button area, but it is nearly unnoticeable.
[G4 General] raptorddd:
Well i can tell that after removing bloatware.. disble unnecessary services .. and new kernel. mine runs less warm then stock.. it doesnt get as hot as it used to..
[G4 General] mcevans:
My name is Michelle and I’m an assistant at the law firm of Girard Gibbs. Our firm is currently investigating a potential lawsuit against LG on behalf of G4 owners affected by the “bootloop” issue. If you would like to assist us in our investigation, please google “Girard Gibbs G4 bootloop,” which should bring up our page. Or you can email me directly at MCE at GirardGibbs dot com.
[G4 General] jinderation:
Thank you for noticing !!! They rip off people by selling defective phones i.e this bootloop issue in g4 is manufacturing fault by lg n they didnt acknowledged it even officially there was no mention on there website..some how andriod authority contacted one of representatives in lg they tolf them about this issue but never officially...this is not how a cellphone company operates either they should had told the consumer to not buy phones until resolved n should had recalled all the g4s back to factory for repairs r money back replacement ...i will look u up
[G4 General] jinderation:
Ur lying all lg phones heat up small usage or high...the blue print of all G4s is the same so urs is no different regardless of what you say...
[G4 General] jinderation:
Ok guys those who are in states or abroad please contact gerard gibbs for a investigation of lawsuit against lg for ILAPO issue email or call them...tell them ur story how did the bootloop happen ....this is not a one man job we all need to participate atleast lg will fix ur devices even if ur devices warranty is expired or u might even get a G5 or others for the replacement ...this is democracy lg will realize n hopefully next time wont make defective devices .....

Follow the link below

http://www.girardgibbs.com/lg-g4-bootloop-class-action-lawsuit/

All you haters n trolls out there mind ur own businesses