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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Removed line from build prop. Will work on it in the am after ruu back to stock. Gotta get some rest. You are a legend.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
They integrated it too much into rom, not sure if theres point of removing all this libs...

Try dummy xml, it wont cause any battery drains(PnP it self doesnt anyways), but as its not changing anything u will have full control over CPU and rest.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Matlog isn't showing any new errors. Now that I've rebooted again. I think the new pnp.xml you created is gonna work.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
When I only change pnp.xml with the one provided by [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION] still getting error "file is not ready" and other kinda "can't set cpu freq *value*".

What did you do in order not to get errors? Did you use the new disable PNP .zip plus the build.prop line removal?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Why you all even worry about this errors so much, you get this warnings and errors even on fully stock rom, it wont cause any extra battery drain or anything you can ignore it...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Ok I'll try and report back if it causes any battery drain, thank you so much!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] frostnicko:
I flashed the new pnpremover zip and deleted line from build prop. I did it right ? and need change pnp file ?

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Can anyone write step-by-step to use remove zip, build prop edit and ivicaks pnp file ?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Mr Hofs:
Why ? Follow the posts and you are done. Don't make it anymore difficult as its very easy. If you done as told in the recent posts its done......nothing more nothing less
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Zero battery drain with current setup. 1% battery loss overnight after adding new pnp. And soilwork kernel values are sticking also. Ivicask thank you. You put in a lot of extra effort. You are appreciated

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And unless your staring into a logcat or matlog you will never know otherwise. Device is running very cool / no overheating. This is considered great success for the 10's.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] frostnicko:
Can you share your setup ?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Same as it has been for days. Using soilwork instead of AKT. Just opened my eyes. Follow the threads I know reading is an extra effort. But can't spoon feed anyone anymore. Don't see how Lee-Droid does this.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] FluffyDiscord:
Would you mind sharing your BBS if you have that app

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So you are on stock sense oreo or leedroid's oreo? Which soilwork's profile did you use and did you use magisk or twrp flash version? Do you mind posting BBS stats?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Magisk version is outdated. Will not flash on Oreo. Only scripts work. And I'm using battery profile
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] frostnicko:
I changed to Akt.Because Akt give me more SoT.Soilwork is pretty good but Akt is more better for me

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No.The Last version is the same magisk version.Read the last comments and December version is v11 (preparied bh John vafkes) October version is v10 via magisk. (old)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] kend0g:
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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Clean flashed Lee droid again today after ruu. Went to work. Gonna work on it tonight
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] kgirlx:
Im on NuSense ROM, Nougat based, I can find PNP.XML file in system/ vendor but there is no bin file you speak of to rename.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Why are you trying to remove pnp manager in nougat?. All the tweaks including the post your on, all take care of that automatically after you apply them. Don't waste your efforts looking for the needle in haystak.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] FluffyDiscord:
Looked over that forum and could not find the v11, only v10. Would you mind posting a post link or dl link please?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
The mods are outdated and will not flash on oreo. I mentioned this earlier. No soup / until the sources are updated for Oreo script is your only route. Someone swore they were here. I'm not seeing anything

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The December version is for Nougat as well
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] kend0g:
It's in /system/bin/pnpmgr is the file on nougat
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] whi-2:
Can this mod be used along with soilwork mod. AKT isn't working on the htc 10 anyway.

Edit: I on LeeDroid Oreo btw. Can this mod work with that
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
Made for nougat. Not been updated yet for Oreo
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] vincenzo697:
If I want to revert back re install the rom or the firmware or both?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Just dirty flash your rom and you're good to go.

In my case pnp_removerv2.zip together with build.prop line removal is doing the job... No problems nor weird battery drain whatsoever.

... Edit...

Drain is better than using dummy pnp.xml, but it's still worse than stock configuration.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jaianblack:
hello, will there be any update for it to work in oreo?

Thank you

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Sneeuwtijger:
No, the author said earlier in this thread -
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Dear [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION], after enough testing, we can say that dummy pnp.xml makes the system still complain about missing xml and this seems to cause some idle drain more than usual.

Anyway, cpu and gpu values do stick, so I think you're on the right route achieving the perfect result.

Pnpremoverv2 gives sligtly better results in terms of drain but, as you said, it's better not to deactivate every aspect of pnpmgr.

May we help in any way?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jakc4103:
Same here. I flashed pnpremover2 and deleted that one line from buildprop. Battery drained more than usual when phone idle, and not much differences while screen on. Also tried helix engine with pnp removed, felt battery drain a little bit more compared to stock leedroid R146. Revert back to leedroid already.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
When I'll have time I'll take a look at it on my u11, it's practically same as HTC 10 pnp wise, so if I get it working properly here it should work on HTC 10 too.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
I'm your huckleberry: if you need someone to test.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Me too!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] kend0g:
Oops nevermind guys I got out of the car and dropped my phone tonight and messed the screen up.. I'm gonna try and get a new phone tomorrow my upgrade is up also so... Idk I was thinking s9+ it really sucks cause most of the phones for vzw don't have root even now.. I think the pixel as long as it's on the first nougat software version and didn't get upgraded can be bootloader unlocked.

It was a good idea sorry fellas.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
More im digging more i see how much deep pnp is integrated into system, its not only PnP but also performance libraries and also all is linked to thermal engine and performance hints it sends to kernel via /vendor/etc/powerhint.xml,, detects games, controls GPU drivers etc etc...

This is just too complicated, this is my last try u can try flash this, but most likely phone wont boot(DO NANDROID!) or it will spew even more errors as i removed most of this performance libs.

View attachment Pnp_remover_v3.rar
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Just tried...

Phone boots but CPU is overloaded and heats up a lot.

Also tons of errors in logcat.

Dirty flashing my rom back.

Thanks anyway for your attempt!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Well thats it than, u cant remove htc power management properly, its too much integrated into system.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] cyrusct82:
But you've used something else to control CPU like Helix Engine? Because after you remove PNP manager the CPU stays at Max frequency
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gianborrello:
Of course I did...

It was cpu utilization that was really out of normal range.

Always more than 20% and frequently spiking over 80% just on screen-ON and no input, while it normally ranges between 5 and 30% more or less (using Resource monitor mini as overlay).

Besides, after a couple minutes all apps I launched started reacting slowly.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dsjiffry:
Say on Oreo what do you recommend I set the min performance level to????

With your mod we had to set it to 0%. Should I do the same on Oreo?? Or leave it at the default 60%?? :confused:
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Not sure what that option or kernels do by default on Oreo.Point is not to change anything kernel related as also PnP changes them so you have 2 sides constantly "fighting" each other to apply proper settings and u only get negative effect on battery.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dsjiffry:
Thank you Ivicask.

Should I also run the interactive governor also on it's default parameters??? :confused:

Because the phone heats up when browsing so I'm running some custom governor values, but I have to apply them on every screen unlock via tasker because of pnp. :eek:

I've noticed that the go_hispeed_load, above_hispeed_delay, hispeed_freq and target_loads parameters are the ones being overwritten by pnp.

Maybe I could try adjusting the parameters that are not being overwritten to keep down the heat. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Sorry man i cant give you clear answer im out of the game on Oreo, but my sister is using fully stock HTC10 Oreo and has no overheating issues what so ever.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] yoshjosh1985:
Hi all I am, trying to stop pnp on nougat. Renamed pnp mngr bin file and pnp.xml seems ok but in BBS still shows power manager causing wakelock. Is this still supposed to do this? Plus battery drain is not much better really.

I heard easy on nougat but not sure I am doing it right or not.

How to tell if it is really not working. I would have thought it won't show up as kernel wakelock
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
Hi I have Stock 3.16.401.2 ROM and my battery is weak but I change in servis to new one. It's safe to use thermal tweak v2.4? I'm stock Rom and firmware. I'm of course Rooted and S-OFF. How unistall this aplication to install OTA? Thx :)

"Live long and prosper"
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] w69:
i have HTC-10 US unlocked stock Oreo 3.16.617.2 un-rooted. Can i flash it via adb. fastboot flash zip?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Good luck on that ??*♂️
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Mr Hofs:
If you would have taken the time to read just a bit in the OP you would have seen that this is NOT even for oreo roms.

99,9% of all mods need root as its involves changing the system partition.

That sums it up i guess.......
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ainaz:
Will this tweak working fine on HTC M8 ?

My Device : M8, Android 9
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] FluffyDiscord:
this is htc 10 thread, you may try, we cant guarantee you anything though
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] xunholyx:
No
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ainaz:
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see the title before, wrong place :D
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Cemersen:
How to install on stock phone

Hello, can someone tell me how i can install this?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DaveedDB:
Flash it with twrp recovery
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] HsHTCsen:
Hi, is this good for a daily driver and will I see some improvements in battery drain? Or no point? Thanks
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] xunholyx:
Yes it works. For more info read the OP.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mariosaraylian:
Mr. Hofs:

I apologize for the annoying question, but, I know this Tweak wasn't intended for Oreo ROMs, but will it absolutely NOT work with Oreo...?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Nomadturk:
Download link says:
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mariosaraylian:
Eyvahhhhhh!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Alekaartx7:
Thanks
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] xunholyx:
OMG a reply on this thread so long after development stopped.

Not slagging here. I'm glad you like it [MENTION=9775691]Alekaartx7[/MENTION]. It's just that it's been so long since I've seen a reply here.

Also, Hello [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION]. It's been a long time since we've talked.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
I would imagine so since it modifies the kernel. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Any update on the core going offline.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] andybones:
Not from my understanding.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] andybones:
It modifies the kernel?

From my understanding it modifies the Pnp.xml and thermel-enging.conf I didn't see anything related to kernel in the .zip

Kindly correct me if I'm wrong.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Anybody else noticing the 4th core being offline. V9 seems to keep the 4th core offline. Not too sure if its intended to. Any insight will be appreciated.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] holofractal:
Snapchat lags pretty bad when using the balanced profile. I'm on LeeDroid latest stable, ElementalX 0.09 over clocked, and I am using lspeed for some misc tweaks, but nothing related to power management or the kernel.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
It never goes offline except while screen off or extreme powersaver, also 2 cores go offline, never 1, except if your phone is very warm than thermal protection kills one core, but that's around 45c for battery, or around 80c for cpu temp it self.

U must have something else doing it
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
My mod pretty much never forces speed below 1.3ghz for all 4 cores, it's weird that app would need more power than that, will install later and check if it lags for me also, should be easy fix if so..
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Than you for the update. I did not notice the battery or cpu that warm ever. I wiped davlik/cache and reflashed the kernel along with the mod and now all seems working. Cannot check the battery performance so early. Is there any way to check if the cores are going offline during screen off.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Yes

You can use my simple scripts i made which i used to make this mod, it will show in realtime on your PC whats going on with speeds, limits, temps, migration settings, nothing fancy it just works.

When u get error in script that means core is offline.(its okay)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Are you sure u dont have something in EX kernel manager conflicting with my mod?Nobody reported such big lags on anything so far, sorry i cant test snapchat my self, simple dont want to register on that crap app :D

View attachment Tweaked_pnp_thermal_ivicask_v9_TEST.zip

Try flash this version, i removed snapchat from CPU limiting profile, it should run more or less like on stock now.

Report back please.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] holofractal:
It works fine now, a little bit of lag, probably due to the CPU not being able to run at the speed it needs to get the piece of garbage working. I don't blame you or your mod. Great work.

Maybe allow the clock speed on both big and little cores to hit ~1.5Ghz on that specific app. Otherwise, I have no complaints
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Quadrider10:
Snapchat does lag a little confirmed.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Flash above zip
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Quadrider10:
Will do

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Still a little laggy, but better
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
And it was not laggy before? Since 1.8 base my phone is also laggy a bit regardless of my mod, many users complain even in stock roms, not to mention some apps are just bad, I get lags on Facebook and Twitter etc, allways on any phone.

I'll try think of something to improve performance of balanced mod a bit without compromising battery:)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Out of curiosity, is there a way where the user can choose apps that need to use more CPU draw. As an example i use the BB hub and BB search for email and search. I noticed that this can get laggy most of the times. An option may assist.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] hamdir:
Hi everyone, I have updated the second post with information about the Performance Profile and how it offers much better gaming performance and use of the Snapdragon 820
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Not possible, for now, i need to edit it on PC..

You can give me package name of app and suggestion at what speeds it should run and i can add it just for you...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
Hmm. I'm glad you brought that up actually. I don't know for sure but I had assumed something like thermal would be fairly low level since it directly affects performance of...well pretty much everything. The kernel doesn't have a say in how thermal behaves at all? Just curious now. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
v10

I just released v10

v10:Balanced profile rebuild
- Merged and fine tuned/adjusted thermal configuration from performance profile
- Should improve responsiveness and fix stuttering on some apps that happend before
- changed around 100+ lines of code, lazy to write full changelog :p

I did alot of changes to it, and was testing it for past 2 hours, looks much snappier to me, cant tell battery yet, so flash and report back :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Flashed. Much better than before. Overall responsiveness has improved as well. Cannot say about the batter though. Has input boost been updated to jump to 1555mhz. Seems to jump to that frequency.

Will keep an eye on battery life. Overall so far looks very smooth. Awesome Job !!!!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Input boost isnt changed to 1.5x, i raised overall limit on most common apps from 1.3 to 1.5ghz for big core, seams as sweat spot, and just this minor raise in combination with everything else is which fixes performance.Battery impact should be minimal (i hope)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Just as we have started to get the best out of the SD820, Qualcomm announces SD821. Same cores clocked at 2.4 for the big and 1.8 for the little. GPU at 650. 10% power improvement.. battery improvements will have to see.....
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
All i can see is marketing, and more throttling..

I can make u pnp profile that will turn SD820 into SD821(needs EX kernel), how long will actually stay at SD821 speeds?, cant say, but not much :D
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] :
Can I delete the Venom folder created by your mod, or is this folder necessary for your mod to work?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Yes u can, i forgot about it, its just for saving selections in Aroma so you dont need to select every time u reflash mod.

It doesnt affect mod in any way!

EDIT:Ill remove it for next version.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
Yup that will be good... lets take a shot and see.. looks like more thermal management and faster throttling.. i doubt there will be battery gains though...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Not even s820 runs at 820 speeds :D

I would say for 90% of times it runs at around 1,5ghz.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] leonkacherikar:
I do agree and to be honest the Kryo cores are extremely good if tweaked correctly... since the SD821 is out in a couple of months, i do not think Qualcomm is going to fabricate something new... It will be a supercharged version of the SD820... Overclocking the cores to 2.4 and then throttling it back down equally fast... Does not make a lot of sense if it cannot sustain the performance long enough... maybe a perception of speed nothing else... the only time i noticed all cores at full blast is immediately after app optimization during boot and that too momentarily.. in day to day use i do not see a replication of that scenario... but it will be good to see a pnp profile to 2.4.. maybe get a better understanding of the next few months... i can only guess the note 7 using the 821...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ivicask:
Kernel must support overclock to 2.4ghz, EX has max 2.2ghz overclock that I know, I may ask flar to add it, but point of my talk wasn't to actualy do it, just saying I can, but it's pointless with all the throttling.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ElementRn:
I guess it's caused by L speed. It's a standalone kernel tweaking app. I think it gets into conflict with this mod.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] androidfantic32:
i don't think its possible to replicate the 821 and I don't think its marketing. Apparently, according to several sites, they are fixing the architecture so that it is able to run at a higher clock and but will run at a lower voltage than the 820 most times. There are also supposed to be a couple of small improvements to the current 820, efficiency wise. This is supposed to be the like the 801 to the 800. The 801 was a higher clock but it also ran better than the 800 and had better battery life. The potential of the 801 was also higher than the 800 when it came to modding. I assume it will be the same here.