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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
On my Tilt I got stuck in drop-downs as well, but you don't have that problem with Smartphones. I don't know why. Compact Framework UI is really a pain in the ass and very unpredictable.

Basically if you have a touchscreen device you should keep using it as before, so nothing really changed for people using touchscreen devices.

I still need to make a few extra changes and some tuning though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimd144:
I cant use the Source button on the Touch Pro

Says Fatal Error.

Thanks

Sorry if this is answered...I couldn't find it with the search.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Is anybody else having this problem? I cannot reproduce it on mine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Oh? Drat. I was hoping to help you out a little in the testing in that regard, plus be able to D-Pad navigate. No biggie, I'm sure the Smartphone users will report if they have any navigation problems. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks for that. I will try to keep tuning the UI to make easier the navigation for non smartphone devices when using the d-pad.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
New version available!

- Manage Trips. Summary is now displayed in a different window using the default browser (previous version was hard coded to IE)

- Some other minor fixes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Staryon,

This might be intentional, but it seems counter-intuitive to me. In the prefs, if you just hit the Okay button, it seems to act like a Cancel. Only if you hit the Save softkey does it save your changes.

Seems to me that the Okay button (hardware, or the on-screen) should save. If someone does not want to save their options, they could hit Cancel.

Steps:

1. Launch Preferences

2. Tap Source

3. Change CID/GPS preference

4. Hit the Okay button to return to main prefs

5. Hit the Okay button again to return to the program.

6. Return to Source prefs, not change was not saved.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I often sort this window (Start Date, descending). A smartphone user might want to as well, would it be possible to add that to the Options menu, and hopefully it would persist? ie: Sort options -> Trip Name or Start date. Trip Name would default to ascending, Start Date default to descending.

Also, I like DPad nav, but I miss the buttons on this screen.. :(

Oh, another suggestion. The Tools screen, DPad (on the Tilt, touchscreen!) DPad down ideally would go down to the button below it, right now it goes to the next item every time. So going to the sixth button could be two presses, but right now it's four. Same on the Config window now that I noticed.

One other nit-pick while I'm on a roll... The horizontal scroll bar on the main screen. I don't recall ever seeing it need to scroll, why is this there? Can it be removed? Or at least the initial size reduced?

I haven't done a full regression against all of the prefs or anything, but right now most things look pretty good! I haven't actually used it, just poking around. I did do a little TrackMe related work tonight, but that was a web interface poking data into the TrackMe database from another program, one-stop shop ;-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimd144:
The error starts "Value does not fall within the expected range.

at Microsoft.AGL.COmmon.MISC.HandleAR(PAL_ERROR ag) at Sstem.Drawing.Bitmal_Init(int32xc, Int32 cy) at System.DrawingBitmap...

Anyway...Maybe something to do with VGA?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, it makes sense what you say, however in the rest of the windows, 'ok' means 'close', so we would be giving a different meaning for this window.

What I would really like to have is an 'X' for the rest of the windows, but unfortunately when creating modal forms, the OK appears by default.

Let me think about it to see if I can find a way of doing what you said.

Thanks for the suggestion.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, I will add that.

yeah, that's one of the problems with CF UI. When creating a new form you define which ones are 'tab enabled' and also an order number. I assigned those order numbers, however if I assign a different order you would still have a similar problem when going from the first icon on the top left to the first icon on the top right.

The solution? I can capture the events and do something specific depending which control has the focus... which again... it's a pain in the ass to do all that :rolleyes:

Anyway, just in case it helps, if you press up while you are in the first icon, it should take you to the last one at the bottom.

No, because some messages (error messages) can be longer that the width of the window, so you would need that

Thanks for your suggestions.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Does it happen only when your press on the 'Source' button?

Also... could you please send me the file config.dat located in the folder where you have installed TrackMe to my email address?

The email is here:

http://www.luisespinosa.com/contact_eng.html

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] turtle2472:
staryon,

Any chance you'll be adding the ability to change users so you can have one track personal, one track business/job, etc.?

Basically it would be user presets so I (and others) could have one user that's for our personal stuff and one that's for tracking business/job related stuff too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] timoline:
Nice work again!

I have a suggention for the server module:

I'm trying to integrate jpgraph (http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/index.php) into the server module, untill now no luck.

It should be simple to do...but I'm not a great php/mysql developer.

Maybe pammetje or another developer can have a look at it?

TIA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I plan to add a feature that will let you to tag tracks.

Depending on that some tracks will be public, visible to specific users or private.

I'm not sure if that will help you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks for that. I hope somebody can offer some help. If not, I will try to take a look when I have a chance.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Aha, I understand. But close can mean Close and Save ;-)

Cool. :)

Aha, I see. No, I'm sure when one starts adding custom controls it gets ugly and causes problems. Unless there's some other way, sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

Aha, makes sense. Thanks! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] timoline:
Hi,

Here's a small screenshot of what I've done so far.

We only need to merge the code with the existing one....:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Is this something the web gui would produce? I've often seen nice graphs from folks analyzing NMEA data with things like:

Altitude vs Distance

Speed vs Distance

(edit: heh, that's what it looks like you have.. Just couldn't read the text at first!)

That kind of stuff would be neat to see when cycling or hiking. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kevco:
Trackme Routes

is there a way fo creating dummy data to go in the server file if you want to run the server your self for testing purposes.

Or can somebody post me a sample routes folder, as I have not yet got PDA to sync
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] turtle2472:
Not exactly what I had in mind. My idea would be that if I choose the Job profile it would update a different user on the server than if I choose a personal profile.

On my server I only have one user and all my tracks get posted to that user. So I have to manually figure out if it was a business related track or personal. If there was a profile selection then I would be able to choose the business profile and that track would be sent to the business "user" on my server. I could make this one public. Then I could have a personal user and have it private.

My thoughts are this would be implemented through the Server Tab of Config. This way each user can have their own server settings too.

Edit: To expand this a little more, it means I can have a separate address for my business stuff compared to my personal tracks. So I could have a user on your server to in case I want to take advantage of the nearest buddy function. So each profile could have a different server not just user name on the same server.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
It looks very good!

Thanks for your cooperation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Perfect!!! I love it!

Are you using the the NASA Topology database to get also the steps in between? There is an API for it - see www.topocoding.com

This is what I did some time ago for a CrossAlp bike tour:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Hi staryon,

I update to your last version. Now I have a problem, as soon as I go to Config -> Source I get an unexpected Error Message and a crash. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Could you please do what I asked here?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2905503&postcount=3624

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
New version available

- Changed the position of some menus.

- The OK button will always be associated to the left soft key (except for the main window)

Sorry guys for changing the menus again. I hope that with this new layout the navigation get easier.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Same here and yes it only happens with the "Source" button.

I have mailed you the config.dat

PS: Using my own server.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Sorry could not mail config.dat. The button "Contact me" on yor page does not work....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Just send it to the email address that appears in the link that I posted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
MrGan, thanks for sending me the config file.

I haven't been able to find the problem yet.

I know it's very long... but could you please post the whole error message that you see when you click on 'details'? (a screenshot will be fine too)

That will help me to pinpoint better the problem.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Just curious, but why is PIE used when TrackMe downloads a new version, even though I've got Opera setup as the default browser on my Touch Pro?

Are you explicitly calling PIE to do the update? If so, could you instead reference the default browser instead?

Even better, could this updating happen in the background, similar to how AppToDate does it, without having to launch a browser instance, which is then left running after the update completes? This would likely require a new config param, namely a place to store the latest cab for those of us that like to have backups of all our apps for restore purposes, though this could be taken care of by providing AppToDate support, I suppose...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
staryon, I'm having the same problem when I click on the Source button. Here's the detailed error text and I've already emailed you my config.dat file:

TrackMe.exe
ArgumentException
Value does not fall within the expected range.

at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar)
at System.Drawing.Bitmap._Init(Int32 cx, Int32 cy)
at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height)
at OpenNETCF.Windows.Forms.OwnerDrawnList.OnResize(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.WL.SetPos(IntPtr hwnThis, RC& rcBounds, BoundsSpecified bsSet)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._SetBoundsCore(Rectangle rect, BoundsSpecified bsSpecified)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Size(Size value)
at ag.j()
at ag..ctor(ad& A_0)
at r.f(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at OpenNETCF.Windows.Forms.Button2.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterModalDialog(IntPtr hwnModal)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.ShowDialog()
at r.n()
at m.ag(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
at m.n(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at OpenNETCF.Windows.Forms.Button2.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)
at d.a()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Are you using the latest version? I don't make any references to PIE anymore so it should use your default browser. Actually I tested with Opera on my Tilt and it worked fine.

I will take a look at that. It sounds good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yeah, somebody already sent me that. Thanks.

I still haven't found the problem but it seems that only happens on the Touch Pro.

Hopefully I'll be getting one next week so I will be able to test that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Hopefully this will make it onto your to do list...

Right now, if you configure TrackMe to "Start minimized (Stealth mode)", it starts up with everything there except for the main screen. I mean, the X button is in the upper right and the two softbuttons are along the bottom and if you tap on one, the appropriate menu comes up, etc.. So, the app isn't really minimized, it's just hiding the main window.

Any chance of having it start up in true minimized mode where no part of the app is active and it's just running in the background? Maybe a non-stealthy minimization option??? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Well, I had an older version when I just did the update, 4.something, so I won't know until I download the next update. Will let you know then.

Cool, thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
For people having that issue when going to Config->Source, do you think you guys can try this temporary version and let me know if it still crashes?

** EDITED. JUST DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION **

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
WORKING!

That fixed the issue! Thanks staryon!

If this was the only change then you can release it.

If I click now on my Touch Pro on Source the app is not terminated.

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Yep!

On my Diamond (original HTC ROM) this version solved the "Source" error.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I had to remove a component that it seems to be the cause of the problem.

Now i will have to find a replacement because that temporary version doesn't let you to choose databases when using cell id tracking.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siomosp:
Testing the server, need kml samples

Just today ,looking especialy for display gps data from web interface, i found this excelent work :) .

I don't have Windows Mobile 5 or 6 device, and i need a kml file for testing the server. It is possimple to upload someone, some samples?

Thanks in advance

Panagiotis
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siomosp:
Kevco,

Download the emulator from here

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-1dd7-426f-a913-4f370a65a582&displaylang=en

(it seems to work ok), and make a normal install :)

(Edit: But i can't connect to gps... :confused: )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
New version available!

- Fixed problem on some PDAs when accessing the Configuration->Source window.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] czar_au:
Config per Power Mode

Awesome program, Love it, but can I make a suggestion.

Can we have a config for when on the charger and off the charger.

So when not charging via external source it can run as power hungry as it wants and update more often, and when in battery mode it can run more conservative?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Server Problem: Livetracking only for the first user?

Hi,

I think I found a issue in the server implementation. Family & friends are using my server.

So if I select now anybody else then the fist user and click on the Livetracking,

it switches back to the first user in the user list again and the time is counting down.

If I try to switch back to the user I was trying to livetrack before, Livetracking is off again.

Ergo - I can not track someone else then the first user in the user list...

Can someone confirm this?

PS: Furthermore would it be possible to provide the server software with a version number or even just a date?

So its easier to check if the server software was update or not...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Yep, you're right; just downloaded today's new version and Opera Mobile was called instead of PIE.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
+1 I would like this option too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
The problem is even if TrackMe uploads less often, the GPS is on all the time, so the battery consumption will be almost the same.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
This isn't necessarily true if we have TrackMe configured to turn off the GPS between updates, correct?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
New version works great on my Sprint Touch Pro, thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Correct, but in that case that new feature that you guys are asking wouldn't make a great difference in the battery consumption, don't you think?

I will add it to the to do list though.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
If you need to reduce power usage, use a bluetooth GPS. Worlds of difference in battery usage. My Tilt uses a LOT of power to run the GPS, and quite less using an external GPS.

I went for a 3 hour hike with TrackMe running the whole time and was down to 83% battery. Internal GPS I bet would have used at least twice as much.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] czar_au:
Here is my reasoning, When I am driving in my car I have it docked to a charger... and wouldn't mind it sucking juice and running the GPS all the time, chances are the GPS will be already running anyway. But when I leave the car, I want it to drop back on use, and only update periodically. Chances are I won't be going far, and it can turn off the GPS between.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Server php scripts

Hi Staryon,

who is at the moment mantaining the server implementation? I contacted jcleek but it seems like he was not changing anything for more then a year?

The problem was the live-tracking issue (see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2919831&postcount=3657) . Anyway I hope I will find some time to look into it myself...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Check here:

http://www.luisespinosa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1713
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
This could be assisted by an option to auto-adjust the interval between updates based on your current speed. If you're traveling at highway speeds, you probably want an update every 60 seconds or so to produce a useful track, whereas walking speed requires less frequent updates to produce useful tracks. Of course, what is a useful track depends on the user, so perhaps provide the ability to set these thresholds? Likely would need some type of smoothing to keep the interval from bouncing all around, e.g., averaging the last three reported speeds, or something along those lines? Not sure if this helps or not, just a thought...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
An option with the current version would be to set a very small interval update but only upload if distance is greater than X.

By doing that it your track should be more uniform and independent from your speed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Just my 2 cents.... Trackme works great the way it is now..... but only for walking. For car trips in European cities where you have to turn every couple of 100 yards the track display is very bad. That can be solved however by changing the upload routine to record a position whenever heading changes more than a pre determined number of degrees. I have recorded many trips having both Trackme and OziExplorer running on 2 different PDA's at the same time. The difference in track accuracy is tremendous and yet I found that the number of recorded positions between Tracme and Ozi to be negligible in every case whereas the displayed track in Ozi was far far better in each and every case. One would think that more uploads are needed but that is not necessarily true because after an upload of a turn the distance and time counters are set to zero and often one ends up recording the turns only. That however gives a much better looking track than recording based on time or distance only.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I have been using it in Spain for a long time and my tracks look great. I understand that by using the angle it could be even better if you need a great precision, but calling it 'the display is very bad' or TrackMe 'only works for walking' is something that really that may confuse some new users that are thinking in using TrackMe and it's completely far from the truth... but if that's your opinion I respect it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Staryon

Sorry but your interpretation of my words are very far from what I intended to bring accross. The English language is not my mother tongue (perhaps not yours either) making misinterpretations easy. As I wrote in my first sentence "TrackMe works great the way it is now." plus the fact that I sponsored your work (and I intend to continue doing that in the future) should be reason enough to understand that the rest was only meant as positive constructive criticism. As a picture says more than a thousand words, I made a short trip to demonstrate my point. I will refrain from commenting on these pictures but let everyone decide for themselves to evaluate the differences. The bulk of my further comments were only to confirm that your program could be just as accurate as Ozi by taking heading into account in your upload routine. I recorded this test trip simultaneous on two PDA's. Trackme running on my HTC Diamond and Ozi running on my Qtek 2020 plus a Holux GPSlim 236 GPS. Then I did the trip over once more running Trackme on the Qtek and Ozi on the Diamond. The results were the same eliminating any differens in PDA and GPS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
As I mentioned before I am not saying that it wouldn't look better if I take into consideration the angle. Obviously the picture that you are posting looks like that because there are only a few readings while the other program has probably made more. Why don't you just decrease the upload time and adjust the 'Do not store position if distance...' to your needs? That should resolve that problem.

By the way, could you send to my email address the KML generated by both files? You can find it here: http://luisespinosa.com/contact_eng.html