yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crystal_clear:
re:above

i have a strange feeling the htc rom, has the radio bits within - you might be better leaving that rom alone, try dutty's rom, that deffo doesnt alter the radio bits

hope that helps you some
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
hi,

dont know if you got an answer to you questions elsewhere cos I notice your post is a couple of weeks old but yes you can and people have successfully flashed other ROMs onto their Orange branded Kaisers. What you have to be careful about is sim locking the phone which can be avoided either by flashing only the OS ROM and not the radio ROM or get you phone sim unlocked before you flash it which can be done for £20 at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php. I did this myself yesterday and got an unlock code within about 10 mins. they do ask that you email them some id to prove that the paypal account is yours (as you have to pay via paypal). I thought this was a bit strange but I know a lot of people have recommended the site so I sent the ID and got an email pretty much straight back with the unlock code.

I am going to flash the phone today and apparently now its unlocked to any network I can now flash all parts of the ROM without sim unlocking it. I also want to back up my Orange ROM for warranty purposes like you. I have read about some software (sprite and spb) but Im not sure if these can be used to backup the ROM or not.

This thread might be useful for you to read if you havent already flashed your phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=342630
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lkw:
Thanks mate, appreciate the response. I did managed to flash dutty's RTM version and works fine. I even managed to dump and reconstruct my original rom in case for warranty
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Behold:
Once i have a full detailed list and it is perfect it will all be posted. its still a working progress. i have now found i have no ringtones working.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
ah right, how did you dump the original rom? thats what im trying to do at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lkw:
I used this method from pof

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334680
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Cheers. I found it in the end anyway. Got Duttys ROM on now. So much better than Orange crap!!! What a set of idiots!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BumFluff:
hey every one,

ive just ordered my tytn ii on orange and just like the rest of you i didnt know until after ide signed that it has none of the features installed that it was advertised with as orange have removed them all :mad:

now i have spent all day reading on how to do this rom flashing and im more confused than i was before. there's about 3 ways i can see to do it and 20 diff programs you can use :confused: so like the last few posts im interested in a noobs walk through for doing this with out bricking my new baby :D

Luke
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Orange flashing

Here are the steps i went through

1. Sim unlock your kaiser at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php

Costs £20, code will get sent very quickly but they do ask you to email them some id in the form of driving license or passport to verify your paypal account. (Bit weird I know)

2. Hard-SPL flash your phone as in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334679

The file kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip is attached to the bottom of the first post. All you need to do is run the exe and follow the steps in the thread. It tells you to re-connect your kaiser to active sync and wait for it to go green after you unplug the usb cable. For me this didn't work, I just carried on with the steps anyway and it worked.

3. Backup your Orange ROM for warranty purposes (OPTIONAL) using this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334680

You will need to download isutils from here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html

isutils contains pdocread which is the software you run to do the backup.

One thing to be aware of here is that the first step reads the RAW files from your phone and lists them, you then need to make sure the codes match up when you run the second set of commands which backup the RAW files to your PC.

Pdocread is a command utility tool which you use by going to run->cmd on your desktop, navigate to the folder where isutils is (e.g. cd c:\isutils) and then run the code from the thread.

4. Install new ROM such as Duttys which can be downloaded here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/68847617/Dutty_s_Hybrid_Build_No.4_RTM.zip

All you need to do for this is run the exe and follow the steps, quite simple really.

Make sure you read through these threads thoroughly before you do any flashing and don't forget, anything you do is up to you so don't blame me if your phone gets bricked. Not that it will.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigstick:
Thanks for the info everyone has posted so far, very helpful.

I am not a WM6 expert, so I need a little more info before I start, so please bear with me :)

If I go through this process, I assume I will have to do a hard reset, or that the process will do one.

What will I lose with this process in terms of preferences and installed applications? I'm assuming that it is everything, but how much will be restored via Activesync?

I am assuming that I will need to reinstall and configure all my applications.

How clear is is that we will flash only part of the ROM, and not the radio ROM?

Is this straightforward in the installation process?

Once the phone is unlocked, am I disconnected from Orange? Do I need to do anything at any stage to re-enable the e-mail, sms, internet, GPRS, HSDPA settings?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sleuth255:
SIMLock is a part of the radio rom. You can safely flash any cooked rom here except Kyphur's without SIM locking your Kaiser. Kyphur's ROM is derived from the aku 0.4.4 AT&T ROM which requires a matching radio.

Your steps to de-brand Orange would be:

1. Install HardSPL

2. Flash the cooked rom of your choice from either Dutty or myself.

Page 1 of my ROM thread contains step by step instructions along with all necessary links. I also have links to TomTom, VoIP and several other useful utilities you can use once you've divested yourself of the Orange propaganda...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] invictive:
Yes you will lose everything stored on your phone. Activesync will bring back your contacts, calendar, emails, notes, files and anything else you have it setup to sync. All of your personal settings will be lost, as will all of your programs.

Different Rom's flash different things, dutty's rom (the best imo) flashes just your OS, but the original HTC rom flashes your OS and your Radio. You can also extract parts of a ROM before flashing it if you want (read the forums).

Once the phone is unlocked you can use it with ANY carrier, including your old one. However likely all of your settings will be lost (for internet, mms, sms, etc) so you may have to re-enter it (info should be available on here or from your telco)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
You will lose all your applications and all your data. Backup all your contacts, pictures etc etc via activesync first. Once the flash is complete your phone will reconfigure itself with the Orange settings. I'm not sure about your other question about flashing radio only as I've only tried one ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cjkerr:
Thanks for the posts. Would you be able to share the standard Orange UK ROM to save the rest of us ammatures buggering up our phones? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Henrybank:
Radio Update

I'm exactly in the same situation as you

Got my Kaiser from Orange UK, sim unlocked, installed Hard-SPL and now ready to install the original HTC shipped rom with radio and splash screen. (exe version)

I read the answer that silent_killa gave you and I think I should be able to upgrade the radio as well now.

But before proceeding I was just wondering:

did you do it n the end? or are you still with the original radio from orange?

Thanking you in advance

Enrico
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sleuth255:
Those of you who are considering the original TyTN II ROM should use mine instead. It is the original TyTN II ROM but with 15 megs more storage along with necessary reghacks and fixes identified in this forum. As an added benefit, it won't change your radio so paying for a SIM unlock is unnecessary.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sonny-67:
Error running pdocread

Have any of you with Orange Kaisers received the message

"Could not update itsutils.dll to the current version, maybe it is inuse? try restarting your device, or restart activesync or maybe your device is application-locked."

I know that the post on backing up your ROM gives instructions to do a registry tweak to resolve this issue, but I am not yet comfortable with doing a reg tweak. Is there any way round this, or maybe a detailed description of the steps required for the registry tweak.

Also, can anyone post a screenshot of the "two little imperfections so far are the russian writing in the 'To' and 'Subject' lines in SMS", so that I have an idea of how minor this is.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigstick:
Afew more questions, sorry!

I am in the process of unlocking my phone. Can I still use it as normal after that?

[Edit: should have read benl2k's post about Orange settings reconfiguring automatically - the following is no longer relevant if he is correct]

Where do I get the Orange connection settings from? Is there some sort of neat little app which does it automatically? If so where do I get it from?

Failing that, does anyone have any information for re-entering the settings?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigstick:
Yet more stupid questions-

What benefits do I get from removing the Orange branding?

I am hoping that it will improve the sluggish performance, but I believe there are other benefits too.

Also, which is the best ROM to use. On the thread relating to Dutty's modified ROM, I see lots and lots of problems. Some get fixed, but others arise. Most worryingly a problem with an inability to hard reset.

Is it really worth it? Is Sleuth's ROM less trouble? It also appears to me that both Sleuth and Dutty's ROMs are based on WM5, but my Tytn II has WM6. Is this downgrading?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sleuth255:
All ROMs here are based on WM6. My ROM is directly based on the released TyTN II ROM. By this I mean that there have been no additions/removals. I've only changed the registry to cook in fixes to known bugs, downgraded a PIE dll to fix a scroll delay issue and built with tadzio's bigstorage tools to give you 15megs more storage ROM. I believe this makes my ROM the most compatible alternative to a production ROM that you can install on a Kaiser atm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigstick:
I have successfully unloacked and flashed my Orange HTC Tytn II (kaiser)! Thanks to everyone for all the help and advice. It wasn't as scary as I feared, but you do need to do some research and make sure you follow the instructions.

As advised, the Orange network settings automatically installed without prompting.

So far, stable, as you would expect, but in terms of benefits, yes the system seems faster, and there are a couple of additional apps, but I had these anyway. You can remove the crappy Orange home screen by selecting it in the Today options, so apart from the speed, which is nice - obviously, I'm not sure what advantages I have got.

Regarding the question of, "Is it really worth it?", well, actually I'm not 100% convinced - yet...

I risked 'bricking' my phone, and had to spend hours reconfiguring everything, and just for a bit more speed. However it is early days yet, and if I come to a firm conclusion either way, I'll let you know.

[Edit: First ever WM6 crash - not what I was expecting...]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] daz.clayton:
How To Unblock Orange UK Phone When You Have Upgraded To The Original HTC Firmware

this is a fix for when you are a noob like me and naff things up like i did and lock myself out my TYTN II where it says enter sim code to unlock.

Note: This Will Only Work with the original sim and is not an unlocker for all networks..

it seems the problem lies with the radio code

thanks to dutty for the fix ;0)

hopefully this helps a few people out

download this FILE HERE and run it and it will fix the problem and let you back in

downside is??? no sound or camera?

but at least it gets u back on to wait for an unlock code lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mands1a:
Question for TyTN II (On UK Orange network) users that have used imei.com to sim unlock -

I paid my money and got my code but:

I followed the steps below but I do not get a message asking for the NETWORK CODE - I just have the message saying “The SIM card is missing. You can still make emergency calls if your service provider supports it.”

Instuctions from the imei.com website:

Questions:

How do I enter the code received from you?

Answer:

Please switch your phone off, take battery out.

Please insert the disallowed SIM card (If phone is Orange for example, please insert ANY other sim card EXCEPT Orange)

Put battery back in, power on the phone.

If the you have set up a PIN code on your SIM card, the phone it will ask to enter SIM PIN. Please enter it!

Now phone is asking for NETWORK CODE.

Please enter the code received from us (********).

Phone unlocked now

If you don't have a different SIM card or if the phone has a long timeout to enter the code, power on the phone and when is connected to active sync run on the pc: KAISERv1Unlock.exe ******** .

Am I missing something really obvious - I emailed the support email address but have not had a reply 2 days later and I go on holiday on monday and need this sorted. Any help appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] florin_m:
Your support question was answered!

We answer EVERY support mail.

Just a general note to all "email" users... "In case you wait for a reply to a mail.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look in YOUR OWN BULK/SPAM FOLDER"

This applies in general to any online experience when using "email" with a spam filter.

And like you can read in your own phone user manual the message "Invalid or missing SIM card" means "Invalid or missing SIM card" it does not mean "Network is locked please enter unlock code..."

The invalid/missing SIM card message can have the following reasons:

- no SIM card in phone (insert a SIM card)

- SIM card inserted wrong in phone (remove SIM card and insert correct way)

- the SIM card has a hardware defect (check if the SIM card is working in another phone)

- SIM card holder or OTHER hardware fault!

- you use a very OLD SIM card (5 Volt version, pre 2003). All new HTC phones can handle 3 Volt SIM cards ONLY (call your provider, get a FREE replacement SIM card, phone number will stay the same)

In case you wait for a reply mail ... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look in YOUR OWN BULK/SPAM folder
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mands1a:
Thanks for your prompt reply - I decided to try one more time before replying and I got...further! (I guess I didn't have the simcard pushed ALL the way into the slot) Now I have a message asking for a SIMLOCK code but I do not have a code set up on the SIM card. If I put the sim card in my old phone I do not get a message asking for a code. Now I am really confused!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] florin_m:
In case you have a support question just write to our support (using a working email address)!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ukbatman:
How to unlock an Orange TYTN II / HTC Kaiser (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, Tilt)

Guide on how to unlock an Orange TYTN II :)

Please note this phone is also known as: HTC Kaiser (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt)

1.

On your phone do the following START / SETTINGS / CONECTIONS / USB TO PC. Remove the tick “Enable advanced network functionality”

2.

Using Activesync 4.5 to copy all your contacts / phone data to outlook Activesync 4.5 can be downloaded here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

3.

Removing the “SIM LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone could have added a “SIM LOCK”.

An easy way to check this is by inserting another network provider’s Sim into your phone, if your phone works please jump to the next step.

If not I was able to unlock my phone using the following link:

http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php

Additionally I believe user tupisdin can also provide this service for a nominal fee.

Or you could use OliPro's SIM/CID Unlocker or Jockyw2001's SIM Unlocker

4.

Removing the “CID LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone would have added a “CID LOCK”.

POF has the answer for this, follow this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334679

5.

New ROM, once the “CID LOCK” has been removed you will need a new ROM, follow this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=331900

Locate and download RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe.

Connect your TYTN II to your pc wait for the green ActievSync symbol and run the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe file.

6.

The only thing I do not like is you get a splash screen saying “smart Mobility” Splash ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Splash/

Additional information and Rom’s can be found here

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

I hope this helps, If anyone can locate new / updated roms please post the links.

PS. I'm a newbie at flashing but I hope I have made it as plain and simple as possible for my fellow newbies.

Many thanks for xda-developers as I now have an Orange TYTN II unlocked and rid of Orange software.

Enjoy UKBATMAN.

ROM version: 1.56.405.5

ROM date: 08/28/07

Radio versio: 1.27.12.11

Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sicilian:
Is it ok to flash the rom on Orange branded Tytn II then? I read somewhere that they were getting bricked.

Out of interest, what rom did you flash back?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ukbatman:
SicIlian, I used the steps above to sucess, I'm now running the

WWE 1.56.405.5 version until I can find a newer version, Must admit I do have an Orange Rom incase of any issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sicilian:
Thanks for your guide, i'm assuming I should remove the sim lock before attempting this?

Are you able to post the orange rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Ma.rkus.nl:
The SIM and CID locks are independant of eachother, so no :)

Also, you can dump your current ROM as a backup. See this thread for details.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tuntang:
Orange UK Kaiser

:confused:

Can anyone ouut there with a bona fide Orange contract Kaiser tell me what ROM they are using that actually works all roms apart from those below make my phone completly silent.

before anyone jumps to tell me to read wiki, or hard spl my phone- i have. the only dutty one that works is Duttys Touch dated 28/8/07.

The only other ROM that works is Alex's latest MM ROM

Am i mad, is it my phone? , is it both, maybe i'll just have to stop flashing

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tsadek:
Radio/OS

From my understanding any ROM that changes the radio locks the fone.

So any ROM that just flashes the OS and not the radio SHOULD work.

I am of course open to correction but that was my understanding of it all. Thats said I haven't flashed my Kaiser yet. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _DrG_:
i have a uk orange tytnII and have flashed numerous roms, i generally stick to duttys as they suit me best, currently i am running 7b. non touch, which is superb and quick, previously i was running duttys no.3, no.4, final hybrid, touch flo final, no.6, no.7 and now 7b.

I have also used Helmi kaiser rom and qmobile 1.0 and 1.1.

All above roms have functioned as intended on my device.

I have never flashed the RADIO and my phone is sim locked still.

Hope this helps out.

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ukbatman:
Please check out this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357592
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stoo1701:
Kaiser noob..

Hi folks,

Dr G, are you saying you just flashed the roms without hard spl? Did they all change the radio firmware? My Uk TTyN II coming tomorrow. If not, is there anything specific to watch out for when flashing a Orange version?

Im sure these are obvious but your advice would be appreciated,

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tsadek:
I think the point he is making is that a lot of the ROMs here only flash the OS and not the radio.

HardSpl, to keep it basic, stops you bricking your phone and allows ROMs to be flash.

With the Orange UK Kaisers/TyTN II the reports I saw back in october seem to indicate that the ROMS flashed BOTH the OS and changed the radio and resulted in a sim-locked fone.

I don't know if this has changed allowing radios to be flashed to these orange kaisers or if we still have to stick to OS only flashes? anyone care to shed some further light/correct me??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hugorudd:
Hmm

I was rather wondering whether this issue (Orange Kaisers locking with noew radio) mattered if one had an unlock code. Isn't it possible just to unlock it if it gets locked/ or does the Orange phone brick in some way?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tsadek:
Again, this is only regurgitated from other sources but I think (emphasise think) that if you have unlocked your phone you should be ok.

Having not flashed my kaiser yet ( I'm going to cook my own ROM once some pesky exams are out of the way) I can't be sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silent_killa:
I got the Orange UK Kaiser mate.

Do not flash the radio, flash OS only ROM's. Dutty's most recent is good, Touch Dual version 2 or 3. Hard SPL your phone before you start flashing (this doesn't touch the radio and you only need to do it once).

Flashing the radio on a sim locked Orange UK Kaiser will result in phone being sim locked to all networks (will have to pay to unlock then).

Only flashing a certain AT&T radio without the supported OS rom will result in a muted phone.

Need any more answers, PM me mate. Im on here every other day :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] matteath:
My contribution

I have an Orange branded TyTnII.

When I got it, first step was Hard-SPL the thing. From there I put many a ROM on the phone without a problem.

All was good until I put a ROM on there which also updated the radio. Next reboot, phone stated it was SIM locked. :( At the time you couldn't get the Orange Radio ROM on download anywhere so I had to fork out the £20 from imei-check or whatever the site is.:rolleyes:

Long and short is you can put whatever ROM you want on it, as long as it doesn't upgrade the radio.

Now mine's unlocked I can put whichever Kaiser ROM I feel the urge to use on it without worry.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ukbatman:
Hi, Just to clear the confusion, if you follow the steps I show on this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357592

you will have a TYTN II No simlock, not bricked and fully working. thanks to the HARD SPL you are able to add any Rom or Radio you desire. the links I have added are using the ROMS i have on my TYTN II. There is also a follow up on my thread where in the event you need to return the phone original roms are available.

Regards

Jerry (UKBATMAN)