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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jb2001:
After about 2 months using the stock Orange ROM I installed HardSPL and Simunlocker.....both worked flawlessley......no issues what so ever. I checked the Sim lock after patching the phone with a "3" network Simcard ... and to no suprise it worked great.

At time of writing Im using "Dutty's WM6.1 Official UC 5.2.19199 RTM" Rom along with WM6.1 Radio ver. 1.64.08.21. Radio seems to perform great and in the 2 weeks of runnig the radio i've had one lost signal, however I've put that down to the Orange network being rubbish (it was 2 minutes before the Scotland v England rugby game inside Murryfield Stadium ??lol??)

Anyway what a differance in stability and speed dutty's rom is compaired to the Stock "Oranged" WM6 Rom.......should have done this weeks ago.

Well done Dutty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] acneman:
IF YOU WANT TO UPDATE YOUR ORANGE KAISER...

try olipro's sim unlocker, workes like a charm. then you can update radios which i would recommend, also you can pick any rom as you can update with compatible radios
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajmould:
Orange TyTn II 1.27.14.32 Radio ROM

Please could someone post up this ROM as I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I need to take my phone back to orange.

Dumb thing is I deleted the backup that I made of the phone. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Fleegletwo:
try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=337066

has orange UK Orange 1.81.61.2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cgjones:
Check this

Keep checking ...

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio

New radios are added to the list periodically.

P.S. You know that you don't need a radio specific to Orange. I'm on Orange but I use the Vodaphone radio and it works great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajmould:
Thanks that's great. Looks like the orange UK Orange 1.81.61.2 download doesn't have the radio in it though?

Took me a couple of goes to find a working combination as some of the radios seem to crash the camera. I have used the 1.27.12.32 radio which seems to be fairly stable (so far).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RobV:
Change Orange UK radio?

Hello!

I've been reading through the forums and FAQ's for a bit and have a few small question in regards to the Orange UK TyTN II Radio ROM

According to several other forums the Orange UK TyTN would simlock itself against ANY card in case the radio rom changes. I'm thinking of moving to either Dutty's or uDK's ROM + 6.1 compatible radio, flashing the phone through KaiserUnlocker.zip but can anyone tell me if this earlier problem was fixed now?

I cant seem to find an answer to this as neither FAQ adresses provider-specific issues ...

I know this phone is supposed to be pretty quick, and the slowness of the Orange rom just pisses me off :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mackaby007:
Flash it

I just bought a Orange branded HTC TyTNII yesterday, 2nd hand from CEX (Sim Locked of course). I flashed Hard SPL to it then SIM unlocked it too but used a different Radio to the original. No problems to report whatsoever.;) I'm now happily running Q's 1.2 ROM (WM6) with Radio version: 1.27.12.17 (found on in the Wiki) with a T-Mobile 3G Sim card.;)

Go for it mate! (just remember unlocking in this fashion voids the warranty for some).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] elmoono:
You need to sim unlock and CID unlock and instal hardspl before flashing the orange radio - or you will simlock the tytn2. This link takes you to a nice app that instals hardspl and does both unlocks. Once this is done you can flash radios and roms. Note you can flash the orange rom without unlocking, but not the radio, and you will need to flash the radio if going to a WM6.1 rom.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583

read the whole thread!

There is also a orange Uk thread somewhere.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] synet:
I've had my Orange TyTN II for just over a week now. First day I got it, I used the SIM/CID unlocker (linked to in above post) and HardSPLed it, and SIM and CID unlocked it. Then I flashed it with one of Dutty's WM6.1 ROM and then flashed it to a new WM6.1 radio. All went without a hitch, and my phone still works!! :D (with a Voda sim card). I probably flashed it about 20 times now, trying different ROMs and radios, and have not experienced any problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] swazpurohit:
How much did you get it for from cex? thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RobV:
Right! So the info I got through Google was outdated and flashing is as straightforward as any other TyTN II.

(I used HardSPL + Sim Unlocker and then ran Dutty's WM6.1 RTM rom; working like a charm now!)

Thanks lads! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigchemist:
Best Radio for Orange UK Tytn II

I work in a pretty remote 'country side' area and I am struggling to get my Kaiser to hold a signal. I know that the network is present from my Nokia 6310i which i use as spare.

I am using the following ROM (I understood that it makes no difference in what im trying to find, but its just for reference: Dutty's dual touch v6.1 WWE build 19199)

So.. I tried the following Radios.. and nothing seems to want to get a signal:

1.58.13.28 Sedna

1.58.16.27 Niki

1.58.23.21 Polaris

1.58.25.14 Polaris (not sure which is the real one lol)

1.64.06.04

1.64.08.21 Voda

This is a call for all peeps in the UK (and more particularly Orange users :-) ).. does anyone have the slightest Idea to which Radio is best and has the better signal performance

my Main Concern is Signal Performance, Battery drainage is not that a big deal as I always have a power source.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sherpa:
Discussed gazillion times! What works for one may not work for others! I'd try 'em all and personally find out which one works better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] butthefuko:
Bigchemist

I have kaiser UK and orange network this 1.64.08.21 Voda radio definitly I found the best.

Peace
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ibanyard:
Agreed - having been thru the same pain with Tytn and Magician 1.64.02.21 seems the best I've tried so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigchemist:
Great.. Thanks guys..

I did find one (eventually) 1.58.26.20

GPS lock with Tomtom was done pretty quick..

HOWEVER lol (im doomed) .. the bettery draines as if you have a heater connected to it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chrisnash:
I have a whole raft of devices which I run on a variety of networks (Orange, Vodafone, O2) up and down the country and yes it does depend on which network you are on, and yes it does depend on which device and radio you have, but you know what? I have had two identical devices on the same network side-by-side with completely different reception - one on one or sometimes no bars and the other on a consistent 3!!!

Work that one out?

Its all pot luck :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Even though I feel this is a redundant thread I will voice my opinion.

1.) 1.58.16.27

2.) 1.64.08.21

3.) 1.58.21.23 Polaris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tof270284:
Please,

I'm a problem with the screen and so i need the original rom.

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fooar:
First, have you read the wiki ?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

Second,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1586817&postcount=2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 3nabler:
Orange Kaiser Debranding

Hi all first post so apologies if this is in wrong place!

Right, basically i've got an Orange Kaiser and like many others am a bit disappointed with the orange stuff installed. I have read some threads and its clear that i could quite easily brick my phone :(

what i want to do is basically get rid of all my orange crap, but not get my SIM unlocked before hand, i understand i can do this if i dont install the radio ROM.

What i am asking is can anyone point me to appropriate threads of what i need to do. I have not modded a phone before so a complete Noobs guide would be appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
Yo,

I just flashed my Orange Kaiser with the HardSPL, then Dutty's latest excellent offering. I am on Orange UK and will remain on Orange UK. I didnt experience any locking out at all that some people have mentioned on this thread.

You may have a problem when flashing HardSPL with a 'white screen'. This was really simply overcome by searching for 'white' in the sticky GWENI post and following the simple instructions. It aint rocket science, just a little reading and a bit of confidence will see you thro'

Go for it! Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 3nabler:
Thanks

Thanks for the quick response,

Which version of Dutty's ROM did you use? also where about on the forums can i find these. I'm obviously not searching the forums right but i cant seem to find a download link.

Or if you could give me an idea of which version to download that would be appreciated

thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
Followed this for HardSPL:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354061

This version of dutty's rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=383638

Follow the instructions, you should be fine - I wouldn't bother reading all 105 pages on the dutty thread tho' - if you encounter a problem (on screen keyboard springs to mind, but is easily fixed) just search the thread.

Hope this helps one novice to another,

debully

BTW - No need to mess about with radio's or anything as its included.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tof270284:
Many Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
I am glad I came across this thread before I updated my phone to Dutty's latest ROM (WM6.1).

The gist of what I am getting is that short of forking out £20 to some company on the internet that I have never used and looks like a hassle to deal with (I dont have a scanner so scanning my driving license as proof of my paypal account will be hard) I am unable to use WM6.1 on my Orange Tytn2 as you need to upgrade the radio rom to be able to use WM6.1 which we can't do without locking our SIM's?

Can someone confirm and wasnt there someone working on a free sim unlocker for kaiser... Hermes has one from what I know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikehoot2020:
I am on dutty's latest (APR 9) rom and on UK Orange with no problems. Casting my memory back to when I did the forst ROM flash I did HardSPL, then Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker(which includes a new radio that worked fine for me) to get Security Unlocked, then installed the new ROM. I think Dutty's latest includes the radio and that is what I am using without issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JohnJonsten:
so Olipro's sim unlocker doesn't work with this phone??????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
same here - no need to sim unlock as I need to use Orange for my contract...just follow the links in my previous post for hardSPL (white screen fix) and duttys rom and your away - yes it flashes the radio, but this isnt an issue.

StarFury - there's no need to SIM unlock unless you actually want to, it's perfectly capable to run 6.1 (dutty's latest)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
As far as I was aware Dutty's ROM doesn't flash the radio, same with Schaps...

But I would like to use the 1.64.08 radio but if I flash it I will have to get my phone SIM unlocked...

EDIT::

Can I use either of these to SIM unlock rather than pay the £20 to that company...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583

or

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361039
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
man, whatever, whatever....

For anyone else - dutty's Apr09 release includes the 6.1 Radio 1.58.16.27, which people kinda rate ;-)

So providing you need to stay on Orange you dont need to SIM unlock your phone, you CAN have WM6.1 for free. Can't really make it any more simple.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] elmoono:
Having done it and done the research first clarification:

If you are only flashing a rom to an Orange HTC TyTn2 (with no radio) there is no need to SIM or CID unlock, you just need hardspl.

If you are flashing a Radio, or Rom with a radio you will need to SIM and CID unlock or your orange phone will be simlocked (not good, warranty invalid as you flashed).

The catch: you will probably want to flash a Window Mobile 6.1 rom - so you will need a 6.1 compatible radio - ergo you need to sim and CID unlock, a radio for an earlier rom will leave you with no sound.

After a few days research here I followed this route:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
False-

Flashed to Apr9 dutty with included radio, hardspl'd first - no problems using my Orange SIM which is generally what ppl are looking for - the threads is about removing the orange customisations - not SIM Unlocking handsets.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikehoot2020:
Spot on! Actually I did Hard SPL, then 6.1 ROM and expected no sound (which is what I got!). I then did SIM/CID unlock which gave me the olipro radio included, and this worked fine for me. I used this radio right up until I flashed the Dutty's APR 9 ROM which came with a radio that also works perfectly. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
I dont mind too much about invalid warranty as Orange never check the handsets when they swap them out anyway, especially as a Panther customer. Just want to try and avoid bricking my tytn2... :) (bricking as in not being able to use it because its sim locked...)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
As per his own Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DuttySeriesKaiser#FAQ

"WM 6.1 Compatible Radios:

Please note that in order for the ROM to perform correctly a Windows Mobile 6.1 compatible radio ROM must be installed. The ROM does NOT include a compatible radio."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] livefastdiefun87:
Right heres how it goes. Trust me I work for orange.

Before you need to do anything you need to install hardSPL

Secondly you CAN SIM unlock your phone as I have done it myself

only problem is I cant remember what unlocked I used. I will try to remember and get back to you on that one.

Install your ROM and make sure you have a compatible radio with it I am using WM6.1 with the newest radio and it IS SIM unlocked
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Happy and Unlocked Orange owner

"Me too and no regrets !! :)".

Here's my experience ..

1. Basically HardSPL your Tytn II to facilitate a cooked ROM that can be 'sim unlocked'

2. Install the Cooked Rom

3. Run the Sim unlock generator code

4. Phone is *UNLOCKED !*

5. Install a ROM of your choice

6. Install a Radio of your choice

Here's the stuff I used:

READ ALL THE POSTS - READ ALL THE POSTS !!

** USE WINDOWS XP OS with Activesync!! **

1. HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device

You will know you got it right when it says either 1.0.HardSPL or 1.0.OliPof.

NOTE: I had problems here and had to force it with JackSPL1.93 because HardSPL would not install.

2+3. I used Jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1

NOTE:

> The file has three steps ... 1, 2 & 3 so you can't go wrong:

> Step 1. Installs the 'patched' Radio

> Step 2. Generates the key code for unlocking ** The instruction says to enter your

> four digit pin .. like a prat, I entered it a couple of times without realising that

> it was for people who had pin protected their phone, and not part of the unlocking process !**

> Step 3. Installs a replacement radio

4. My code was a series of numbers that I had to type into the screen.

5+6. Read my signature for what I'm using today (it changes)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All instructions are on screen with prompts.

I sweated for days before I chanced it and it took me about 15 minutes from start to finish but you end up with a pucka HTC looking Tytn II and not the Orange variant.

A few important pointers from the bit I learned:

1. You cannot do this on a WM6.1 Tytn II, you have to go down to WM6.0 - As mine was WM6.0 it didn't matter.

2. Vista is a ***** for doing this and you have enough things to think about without the PC's OS .. USE XP !!

3. HardSPL once done, the Tytn II is clear for all future ROM + Radio upgrades.

4. Bootloader = Power button + Camera button + Reset with stylus

5. Hard reset is Left softkey + Right softkey + Reset with stylus

6. Always Hard reset after blowing any new ROM before using.

7. Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything.

8. Remove the SD card before you begin.

9. The 'Cube' isn't always included in the ROM's - I use this CUBE

10. Most Roms come with their own 'loader' called 'Kaiser_RUU' so you don't have too much to think about.

11. Stick your Radio and ROM information in your signature, you never know when you may want to go back and forget what you had installed ;-)

12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!

Enjoy :-)

PS. Let me know if you can't find the files you need.

SIM Unlocker Software HERE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
OK I have done it.

Ran Hard-SPL but had to use Jocky's method as I got whitescreen.

Then ran the unlocker and SIM unlocked my phone.

It rebooted after that and loaded the original Orange OS with no problem.

Then ran Dutty's Apr9 build and that installed and worked completely

Then I updated the radio to 1.64.08 because its the best for GPS lock and battery life according to a test I read here and that worked fine too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
Now I see the source of confusion - he needs to update his wiki. The APR9 version (now labelled APR16) does infact include a 6.1 radio :-)

Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Did you use 'JumpSPL' or another method ?

Also, can you have a quick look at my post HERE and see if you have a similar issue.

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
I will test that for you later tonight...

On the HardSPL I just copied the JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to the phone and ran it then followed the rest of the instructions
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Thanks Starfury,

It appeared to work earlier today so I'm unsure what's happening with the video streaming - I might go back to the 1.58.16.27 Radio where I had no problems :-o

Thanks for the update on the HardSPL, I've added the link to Jockyw's JackSPL program in my original post so all Orange users can benefit from having an 'how to' page, that way no one should need to ask 'Avoid Orange Kaiser?? '.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] digitalwarfare:
Hi people. This is my first post on this forum.

This is the most useful thread iv read so far. I have a HTC TYTII from Orange. I was about to dash headlong into flashing it, till I found out about the possibility of simlocking it. I went ahead installing the HardSPL, no problem.

I then went ahead and flashed 3.0 Sleuth (thanks!!! :D) as it was stated that it did not flash the Radio.

I then it rebooted, and i noticed that it did infact change the radio (from 1.27.12.29 to 1.64.08.21) and fully expected it to end up sim locked. BUT HEY! ITS FINE!!! did I just get lucky with that? is it only some Orange TYTNII that end up sim locked?

I will be doing the sim unlock next ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361039 ). Ill let you all know how I get on.

Can some explain why I didn't get the simlock? just for my info.

Thanks alot for a very valuable resource everyone,

Regards, Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Just lucky I suppose :-/

Don't knock it ....

I think it's a bit like not crossing a busy road because you get told that you'll get run over, you could be unlucky and get knocked down but thats the risk.

I wasn't going to chance 'bricking' my phone so I can't say that it's a definate 'no no' - but there were enough people saying it would, and it makes sense as Apple have done something similar with the iPhone.

Unlocking was no big deal but I tested with a 'Virgin' sim before and then after and it was definately locked before.

Glad that the postings helped.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcall_r:
i dunno what the problem is,

ive flashed my orange tytnii,

flashed duttys latest rom, changed the radio to NIKI, sim unlocked it, hard spl'd it.

go for it you will be fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pczdogxx:
Orange TyTnII Unlock Help

Just got the Orange TyTnII yesterday and already try to unlock but fail with SIMUNLOCKER, could anyone can advise the detailed procedures and what is the pre-requisite software need to install first?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Go here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2127069&postcount=8 for the specific process or here to read the whole thread.

Please use the thread above to discuss your questions rather than using this thread to repeat everything.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mjed2006:
Read the Wiki's.

Try Olipro's solution - he uses a UK Orange TyTnII

or you could use jockyw2001 Sim Unlocker

Please read the Wiki - they do actually have the answers contained in them.

Good Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I merged this thread to the thread with instructions on what to do and a bunch of other redundant threads. I've also updated the first post to include Oli's and Jocky's SIM unlocker links.

Hopefully, this will stop the redundant Orange posts. If not, I'll just keep merging them :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ajs007:
Thank goodness you explained the merging ... I wondered how the thread changed so much from my last post :-P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pczdogxx:
Thanks to all, just unlock the Orange TyTnII. I found the most important step is doing the HardSPL first, then follow the Olipro's solution, everything will smooth.

By the way, could anyone advise where to have Hong Kong or Taiwan Chinese ROM?