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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
New version available!

- Trip selection has been rearranged in the Configuration window. Bigger buttons added for easier access.

- Added option to use Cell ID if minimum required satellites is not reached.

- Notification on Demand. Added option to keep tracking when a event is triggered.

Enjoy!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I think that's an issue with your GPS. It happened to me a couple of times with TrackMe and TomTom. Probably an interference or something like that.

I am not sure how to do that with Google Earth or Google Maps. If somebody knows, please let me know.

I just added that feature in the version that I released today.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Nice, I've been looking forward to number 2! I have a few questions I've been thinking on, but hadn't yet asked...

If CID (and LAC, LOC, MMC) haven't changed, does TrackMe 'process', or does it wait until it has? And probably the timer too I'd guess.. if CID != OldCid && Timer > Timeout, etc..

Is it possible to just upload the CID/LAC/MNC/MMC to the server and not download the result? If that were possible, then CID could be done in 'offline' mode. Also it would take less data transfers to just push up the four values and expect nothing back.

Associated with this would be a nice way to toggle CID/GPS mode from the main screen. I know the 6 icons is pushing touchable interface, perhaps the "Tools" button could be put in the menu? The individual items are there.

Only feature that would break would be the "Show Position on Map" option within TrackMe. In that case, when the user chooses that option some logic could say "I'm in CID Offline mode, I gotta ask" and it queries the website same as it does today and gets a lat/long to work with.

Note: When I say CID below, I mean CID/LAC/MNC/MMC. And when I say "CID Online" I refer to the current CID behavior where it sends the CID up and gets lat/long back.

Use case: Always on, low-battery consumption, minimalistic tracking:

CID in Offline mode. Only uploads the CID if it has changed and after N seconds/minutes. Upload only the CID, do not attempt to retrieve LAT/LONG.

Scenario: User leaves TrackMe running in this offline CID mode 24/7. When GPS precision is desired/required, it's (should be?) easy enough to enable GPS tracking.

On the server side, CID Offline would process through its databases and log the CID and Lat/Long in the database independent of the client. This implies some server-side change (CID Offline vs CID Online).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
wow... lots of good ideas!

I think they are all very good requests but it would require a lot of changes and the way that TrackMe's internal logic works. It's really a lot of work and something that cannot be done quickly. I will keep your post in my to-do list and I will keep it in mind every time that I make changes or add new features related to Cell ID tracking.

And yes, if LAC, LOC, MMC have not changed, TrackMe will do nothing.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Staryon,

I may be doing something wrong, but I can't get the CID Fallback to work, but it could be that I don't use the internal GPS, I use a bluetooth GPS and access it via GPSGate so multiple things can use it at once.

Here's my setup:

TrackMe is running of course, status is "Waiting for GPS response.." and Satellites is "Not found."

Source tab:

Cell ID is not selected, there are multiple options in the Selected option (trackme, google, opencellid, celldb).

GPS is selected with com1/38400 (ie: what GPSGate outputs to), and "Use Cell ID if required sats not reached" is checked. Upload Cell ID to DB is checked too.

GPS works fine, always has, just trying out the new CID fallover and it doesn't seem to. Seems to search for GPS forever but never falls over.

I did the built-in update over the previous version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Excellent, that's what I was hoping for. Look forward to your implementation! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, that's how is supposed to work at this moment.

If you have that option checked it means that cell id will be used if the minimum number of satellites is not reached but you already have a fix. However, if you don't have FIX, TrackMe will try to use your GPS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Would it be difficult to make it so simply no sats = CID, vs no fix? So it'd work in either situation?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
The problem with that is in that case the first 2 or 3 positions will always come from the Cell ID because it always will take a while to get the initial GPS fix.

At least, in my case, I don't want that because my route will always look odd.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Maybe some sort of timer then? If no sats reached in a reasonable amount of time?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, that may work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] turtle2472:
Can you make it user selectable if you do this. I'd rather it not choose CellID if Sats don't come first. However, if given the option to choose a long time before it defaults to CellID would be good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, that was what I had in mind.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deuzeff:
Hi staryon,

thanks for the app!

I tried to search around the thread a little but I probably miss the correct keywords. Forgive me if it has been (and I'm it has, more or less indirectly) already asked/answered.

I'm playing around with your software and wanted to export the locations thus create, on my server (tried hosting it), the kml file. However I have no internet connection for my phone right now (Activsync is behind a proxy and I do not use 3G or similar).

My question would be: how (if possible) could I upload the locations stored in the local.sdf to my database and create the kml file, w/o using TrackMe (i.e copying the sdf to my desktop and upload it)?

Thanks for the answer ;).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Hi deuzeff,

I'm sorry but that's not possible. The only way to export that data is with TrackMe. The sdf is a proprietary format and I don't think there is an easy way of exporting the data without using its API.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deuzeff:
Oh what a pity. I am not surprise though :). I guess I'll have to wait being home then!

Many thanks again for this wonderful app staryon! Already played around some months ago, and now wanted to see how's looking on my own server.

Just wired a donation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks a lot for the donation, deuzeff!

I really appreciate it.

I hope you have fun with TrackMe!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Hi,

This app is sooo cool! I love it!

I thought about adding an altitude profile created by using the nasa terrain database like on www.topocoding.com

or even using this service to create it.

Btw a have a problem with my server. As soon as I try to delete a trip all waypoints are delete but the trip name stays still in the database. This is a problem as the name is still in the drop-down of the webside but without any points. Besides that if a user forget to name a trip (and auto naming is also not enabled) the PHP script throws an error. Already any fixes for that or should I look into that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gusnor:
Great app, thanks for this.

Does it send back any info during standby?

either location from Cell ID or location from Sats?

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Are you sure that you are not selecting 'Delete Positions' instead of 'Delete'?

Regarding your other problem I am afraid it has to do your server. Does it work ok on mine?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Hi gusnor,

No, if the device is in standby mode nothing is uploaded.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gusnor:
Hi staryon,

thanks for that.

Can it be amended to to send data back in standby? I know it's running from the log screen which shows a few pages of "Cell ID has not changed, skipped" etc.

i could really do with this or something that sends back a location of either Cell ID or GPS while a device is in standby.

thanks again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
If the device is in standby mode the GPS is turned off (at least on my Tilt). For that reason there is nothing that can be sent.

However (I just thought about that) if you are using Cell ID tracking, it should upload data. I need to test that though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gusnor:
sounds good, the cellID option is probably better for me as it will no doubt save on battery power anyway.

I have been testing this today and even though i drove over 15 miles west, the software on the PDA still insisted my Cell had not changed and so didnt send a location back, apart from the first one. So nothing received on server!

is there a way to override the option that makes the software not send back a location if the Cell ID has not changed? this way i can test without having to drive to another part of Scotland!

thanks again.

Gus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Does your cell id change if your PDA is not in standby mode?

I will try to test this during this weekend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gusnor:
good question, i will check later. I have not yet gone for a drive while the unit is not in standby
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
By the way, if you still have problems with the standby mode,

you can just try clicking 'Screen off' and it should work. That's how I usually use it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Delete: You must be right because I testet it again and it works like a charm now (last Version)

I never tested it on your server what happen if you save the first trip without a name (happen to me) and try to open then the webside to have a look at it. If you uploaded at least one trip with a name the problem vanish.

Well anyway - I will try to intergrate the topocoding, if its working I will let you know.

Thanks for the great tool - it my #1 app!!!!!

I will wired something!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, if you create a trip from the Manage Trips window it will be created in the database. However, if you do it from the Config window it won't be created unless you upload some positions.

hey... let us know about any progress integrating the topocoding. Thanks!

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rallytrack:
ability to log Cell Signal Strength?

staryon,

Great program. I love it.

Is it possible to log the cell signal strength in conjunction with Cell ID, Lat, Lon, Date, and Time?

I want to measure and record cell reception in remote off-road and mountain areas and have it tied to GPS information. The goal is to share "good cell coverage" information for outdoors enthusiasts.

many thanks,

Craig
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
It's a good idea! I'll add it to my list.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tolgaulas:
I wish this great piece should work hidden, putting an icon on the lower systray, or may be as a today plugin.. Just a simple wish :)

Tolga.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks for your comments. Yes, I have thought several times about adding an icon in the system tray. I'll do some research, maybe it's not too complicated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tolgaulas:
You may wanna check : http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cs/trayiconmenu01.aspx?df=100&forumid=3628&exp=0&select=1319957 and this http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/pocketpc-dev/22397/System-tray-icon
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gibbage:
Great program BTW!!!

Im going to be riding my motorcycle from LA to Seattle in 2 weeks, and will be using this to let my friends follow my progress, and to share photo's. One thing that would be GREAT would be to have some sort of ability to post comments or something below the map, or for photo's? Both for the user (me) and the viewers (my friends).

Just an idea! Thanks for the great program!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks for that. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
That would be nice. I think I'm going to be rewriting the web viewer. It hasn't been updated in months and I haven't heard from the person who was doing the latest updates (mcross) It also has some bugs that haven't been fixed either.

I would like to add the possibility to add some kind 'Friend viewers' so they will be able to access to some of your trips.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Hi Staryon!

Thank you for your great application! Donation soon...

I installed it on my Diamond and it works perfectly...

I have a question on the usage:

I would like to take a long walk in my city with your application running.

When I am back at home, I would like to have a log with LAC/CellID for each GPS coordinate.

I was unable to find the right settings fro doing this! :-(

Something like:

- Each X seconds upload GPS coordinates and LAC/CellID.

or

- Each time the CellID changes, upload GPS coordinates and CellID.

Thank you very much in advance...

bye,

Dany
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Hi Dany,

I'm sorry but that kind of uploading is not possible with TrackMe.

There is something similar though. If you select Configuration->Source->GPS,

and you check "Upload Cell ID to TrackMe database" this will upload a new entry in the TrackMe's community database with that GPS position and Cell ID.

Later, if you select Configuration->Source->Cell ID and 'TrackMe' database, it will probably use data that you have already uploaded before.

Hope it makes sense! it's hard to explain
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Thank you for the fast reply...

If I follow your suggestion, but additionally select "always offline" usage, the data is collected in the pda before being sent to the trackme community database, right? Is there a way to read them before sending?

What a pity... In three day of research, I've found only one application capable of doing it (commmgrpro), but it is really intrusive in the pda, while I really like your application...

Thanks,

Dan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shadhman:
Is there a really cheap gps phone that I can put this on?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
yeah, the 'offline mode' when using cell id tracking works a little bit special...

It will store your GPS positions locally, but first it will need to get those GPS positions out of the cell id, so it needs to go to the internet. I really need to change that.

There are so many things to do that I don't know when I will end up doing this.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I think the cheapest would be to get a PDA with bluetooth and Windows Mobile 5 (not smartphone with Windows Mobile Standard). That should work.

Regarding a specific model... that I have no idea!

Hope it helps!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Request

Hi Staryon...

Today I tried something:

I walked from home to work.

I enabled GPS, "upload Cell ID to TrackMe database", "Log GPS positions to a file", and "use Cell ID if required satellites not reached".

As soon as I entered in the underground I was expecting the automatic use of the Cell ID mode (since GPS signal was missing), but it didn't switched... It continued telling "searching for satellites". I switched manually to Cell ID mode, enabling trackme, google, and opencellid databases. I could see in the log windows all the CellID changes.

Finally I arrived at the office.

Everything was done in "offline mode". As soon as I arrived in the office I've copied the trackme folder into my harddrive to see which log was created, and I uploaded the offline positions to trackme database.

Now, what I can see in the TrackMe Display (v1.20) is the correct route before entering and after leaving the underground stations.

During the underground I have some crazy points (I believe one point in the trackme database is completely wrong because it's some km away).

In the log files I can see just the GPS coordinates.

I would have two suggestions/requests to include in the todo list. I hope you can take them into consideration:

1-Is it hard to extend the option "Log GPS positions to a file"?

It would be really nice to have a choice between:

-"Log GPS positions"

-"Log Cell-ID"

-"Log both GPS and Cell-ID"

The information should be already there because you upload it to the trackme database, so it shouldn't be so hard to implement, right?

2- Can the LAC/CellID be included in the description of the points in the trackme display map and/or kml file?

I think some users would find these features interesting. There are a lot of users of XDA-dev and modaco forums searching for an application that logs Cell-ID and GPS. None of the applications that I've found runs properly, and you have done already most of the work, but you don't log before sending.

Maybe your target now are users, who just want to track their position/trip.

But by adding these (simple?) features you also attract radio geeks who want to know cells, and why not even signal strengths...

Maybe It would boost the filling of the trackme database (people are more encouraged to upload the data to the database, if they can also see the data)...

Oh... It's really a long post... Sorry!

Anyway, It is a really great application. For sure the best I have seen so far in the context of position/location tracking.

Congratulations...

Best regards,

Danilo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
wally80, check this thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2703996&postcount=3235

and my answer after that.

I think that will resolve some of your questions.

Cell ID tracking was recently added to TrackMe. It really needs a lot of more functionality. I'll be adding that gradually.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Ok... Perfect...

I think now it is almost clear what the software is doing...

Thanks for the explaination (I think I've read 1/3 of the 331 pages ;-)).

looking forward to trying next releases... :-)

bye,

Danilo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] trbal10:
awesome program, but for some reason, when i search for satellites, it searches, but none come up. It will stay on the searching for satellites image for a very long time and nothing ends up coming up? I have 6.1 and just wondering if i need anything else to config it correctly
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Did you try running a different program that uses the GPS at the same time?

If that one works, TrackMe should work too.

Does your PDA freeze or something o you can stop tracking at anytime?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I had the same thing happen to me this weekend.. For some reason, not sure why, it lost sat lock in the middle of a trip, some 60 miles south of my house. I noticed it seemed to be stuck trying to get Cell ID's rather than reverting back to GPS, so I disabled the CellID fallover, then stopped/started tracking again and it picked up sats again.

When I got home and looked at the trip, the resulting data had some final positions 10-15 miles from my house in random directions. Something like point 440 was a few miles from my house, but 441-445 were all over the place with crazy altitutes etc..

I'm not sure it's related to cellids, but I know I had a lock on the way home because I was actually watching it gather the last datapoint when I stopped in the drive at home so could get that final 'home' datapoint.

First time I've ever seen it do anything like that before.. I probably should have dumped the database to keep it, but I went in and manually deleted the last few points from my database. Max speed: 445mph, max altitude: 18,800 feet. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alexmagic:
MySQL Database + install.php

Hello,

First of all, thank you for this great application. The only problem is that it doesn't work with my server.

I followed ALL steps as written in the Read_Me.txt.

When I launched install.php, the following message appeared :

TrackMe Server Side Installation

Database tables created successfully

Remember to create two folders ("routes" and "pics") in your TrackMe folder.

If there are no errors listed above then the installation of server side files and tables is complete. You MUST delete the install.php and database.sql files before the map page will display. Once you delete install.php you can click here to view your custom map.

If you have not installed the application on your Windows Mobile Professional device you can download the latest version here

I ckecked my database... NOTHING !!! :( It wasn't created.

Then, I opened database.sql. What a mess inside !!!! I had something with lots of strange letters and signs. I cleaned that and had to change some values (like the size of URL, because 512 was too big for MySQL).

When that was done, I manually created the tables.

Finally, I checked the creation of config.php. It worked well :)

So, I tried all that, but... I didn't work, again ! :mad:

Trackme! wrote on my phone :

User didn't exist and system was unable to create it

So, I went on my database, and manually create my username and password.

And... NOTHING !!!!!! Still the same message on my phone :

User didn't exist and system was unable to create it

I know that I'm not the first one to have those kind of problems. I checked any solutions on this forum, but noone explains how they manage to fix that.

Someone can help me please ?... I'm gonna be crazy !!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I think something is wrong with your tables. I don't think they were created correctly. It's hard to tell you where is the problem.

I usually don't do these things, but if you give me access to your server I may take a look to see how the tables look like. I would need to access with phpMyAdmin.

Let me know what you think.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alexmagic:
Informations sent in private message ;-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shadhman:
Will this program work on my HTC Dash?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rallytrack:
Convert local.sdf to an Excel Spreadsheet

HOW TO CONVERT THE "LOCAL.SDF" TO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET

I found a method to convert the "offline" data inside the local.sdf file to an Excel spreadsheet.

I'm working on detailed instructions, but if anyone is interested here is the basic method....

1. Use Activesync to "Explore" to \Programs\TrackMe

2. make a copy of "local.sdf" in the same directory and name it "export.sdf"

3. Download and install Remote SqlServer CE from

www.GUI-Innovations.com

There is a free 30 day trial, and then about $40.

4. Connect WM device to computer and install the SQL softare

5. Open Remote SqlCeMobile on your PC, open the Help File, and read "A step by step guide to connecting"

6. Establish a connection between WM device and PC

7. Right click on the "export.sdf" file shown in Remote SqlCeMobile on your PC and "Compact" the file

8. Double click on "export.sdf" and the database will open up.

HINT: There is no password, just click on "OK"

9. Right click on the "offline" Table Name and select "Open Offline" , "Show all records"

10. Select all of the data and copy it to clipboard

11. Open an Excel spreadsheet and paste all the data into the spreadsheet.

Bingo ! ! !

You now have the local.sdf data in a spreadsheet format.

Regards,

Craig
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Thanks. I sent you an email back.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
That I don't know. It depends if it runs Windows Mobile Standard or not.

Anyway, I have some news... I'm going to be developing a TrackMe's Smartphone version soon!... so if it doesn't work right now, just wait until this version is released.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
hey... thanks but... why do you need to do all that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shadhman:
I will give it a try tonight.. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm currently running Windows Mobile 6.0 on it.

Can't wait for your Smartphone version! If its as smooth as this one expect a handsome donation from me:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rallytrack:
I'm not always in an area that has good cell coverage and/or I might not have a data access plan on one of my phones. Therefore, the data is only collected locally and then parsed into a spreadsheet for further analysis.

Regards,

Craig