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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] u53r:
Just tested this out, and this is an incredible app. I'm using it on a Tilt with stock ROM installed on storage card and FFF takes about 1 sec to load. However, there seem to be a significant delay after I've located the contact and press "send sms". Takes about 5 seconds to open up. No such delay with other options (call or email). Don't know if it's just me and it could be something I installed conflicting here.

Also, it would be nice if FFF could show more than one email address for each contact. Obviously, I can get to the second and third email addresses by hitting "open in pocket outlook" and that works just fine. Just a suggestion.

And I second (or whatever number it's up to now) the search business name function.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thaihugo:
I'm using it on a HTC Touch, that's why I don't have an OK button. I'm going to try the GPS function on it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thaihugo:
What port are you using for the GPS? I try to set up my external one with the internal WM gps component
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greenbep:
Thanks. Just sent you an email.

-- Paul
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dr J:
Good luck with that :p (unless you know something i don't about the Touch)

FFF looks good, just gonna try the latest versh on my Touch, will feedback ;)

by the way... just wondering if you are going to make the older versions available on the site, as i'm using a Touch and will have no need for the GPS function. does it make any difference to the size / speed of the prog anyway?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
I don't think you want to run the old versions, as they will inevitably contain bugs that get fixed in newer versions. Startup time with the GPS feature included will perhaps increase startup time with 0.2 sec. It's not worth the hassle to maintain two version :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FoneJunkie:
The GPS feature is a cool 'toy', but I agree, in my opinion it's not a core feature. On my Tilt, the first time through it ALWAYS freezes after building the map and will not allow me to send it either via SMS or email. If I back off the screen (OK) and retry, I can get it to go through the motions of sending an email (without freezing), but the map/message never gets delivered... and nothing show in my SENT MAIL folder...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Johnston411:
Same here.

Top app my man.

App is top drawer imho and i'm looking forward to watching its development:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] friguy33:
works perfect on my apache/6700, just not something i liked using. I did have a problem searching for some contacts and the "more" button doesnt work. think i like finger scrolling contacts better, but keep this up. very unique.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moderateinny:
Well the say beggars can't be choosers so I hope this isn't received as criticism. But I have to agree the GPS thing is sort of "neat" but I hope you won't be spending much more time on it. You have the makings of a terrific keyboard for touch screen devices and I'd stay focused and continue to make it even better. Adding finger scrolling, complete list that narrows down, better integration, improving speed/load times, perhaps spinning off a standalone software keyboard replacement, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Agree. I will stick with the "old" version as I do not want the GPS functionality. I'm grateful for your creating this and making it available. But since it is your time and app, you can do with it as you please. But IMO, focusing on the contact and keyboard would be my preference.

I used to use PocketCM also, but once the developer included the SMS threading functionality, I decided to remove it. It made the program bigger, and conflicted with the threading SMS software I already use, and he refuses to make the SMS portion optional.

I think FFF is a nice replacement for the functions PocketCM provided, but I definitely wouldn't need the GPS capability.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] datawrhsdoc:
FFF Rocks!!!

Jahnotto,

This app totally rocks!!!

With 1,400 contacts on my HTC Wizard, it only takes 250K of RAM, is blazingly fast, looks great, and has hands down the most elegant user interface of any contact manager I've ever seen. My friends with iPhones are going to be rather jealous.

After about 20 seconds of using this, I uninstalled PocketCM. Nice eye candy, but poor interface and almost 1800MB of memory use with that one.

Two suggestions:

1) On the listing window, add "Add Contact". This should only appear when the listing window is clear on entries and should take the user into a Pocket Outlook new contact window.

2) Have an option to preload minimized during PPC startup. Even with FFF's blazing performance, it take a bit to load with so many contacts.

Thanks,

Jeff
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xfive420:
an idea for faster loading

The biggest problem with any of these alternative contact managers is the time it takes to load. Even if it's a second, that's still a second longer than the crappy default contacts manager.

However, I think this can be fixed relatively easily. Now, I may be talking out of my ass here, but I think you could preload all the back-end functionality in an executable run on startup, and then just run a GUI to interact with it when someone clicks their contacts button. When the app is closed, just the GUI closes, leaving the back-end ready for its next instantiation. I think this is basically how Slide 2 Unlock 2 does it. 2 executable files are used. That app loads instantly because of it. Check out S2U2.

That and landscape mode are my suggestions. But they're just ways to improve an already great app. I'm loving the software so far. I can imagine how frustrating this constant barrage of requests must be, but it goes to show how much interest your app has generated. Keep up the good work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dgold21:
Wow...I'm freakin' impressed. Works great on my Tilt, and no lag at all...opens right up, send SMS opens right up, etc...even tried the GPS function, and it had a fix on my location in less than 10 seconds, ready to send via email. Now to set it as my default contacts app...:)

I would however concur with the request to be able to see all contacts when first opening app, and be able to use finger to scroll through them...then narrowing search with the great keyboard. That would make it bulletproof.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dr J:
i have checked out FFF and i think it's superb so far! great effort.

Pocket CM was removed ages ago, and i'm having to think hard about whether i'm keeping iContact as well!

loading quickly, running smoothly, looks great

BEST SUGGESTION YET!

even better than taking us to the Pocket Outlook new contact window would be if you could add this functionality into this app, with the same sleek style and ease of use.

or if that was to bloat this app, perhaps a separate app in your same style?

keep it up, i'm in donating mood :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dash7869:
does the Send GPS Position function require any sort of wireless connection? (if so, why?)

it keeps dialing up to my mobile provider..

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] species8472_rules:
Very Nice.. The best 3rd party contact list to date. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FoneJunkie:
Ok, I did a bit more research on the GPS mailing out issue that I reported early this evening. It seems that it sends the email via the OUTLOOK MAIL account - which I have not configured because I don't have access to an exchange server. After digging around for the missing messages, I found them in the outbox for that account.

Why is the FFF app selecting that mail account? It doesn't appear that it can be deleted, either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grizzley:
Yea, this is what I found also.... bummer because with it not being able to use any other account the application is dead in the water. It's cool, but simply wont work with using Outlook and nothing else :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
Wow, that's a lot of feedback since I got to bed yesterday! How cool! :D

I won't reply every single message (hey, I've got work to do!), but I'll give a few general comment. I am however reading every comment, and I am adding good suggestions to my todo list.

1) I agree that bloatware stinks, and FFF will always be a contact app. However, it shall be the best one! I will never add SMS view, red-eye removal, coffee machine remote control, or other things that are not contact-related.

2) I will however continuously look on how to improve usability (which in my book means "ease of use") and speed.

3) As mentioned in a previous post, I will make it possible to choose which email account to send from.

4) I have started to do some prototyping on a DRMWY-Touch keyboard to replace the built-in WM keyboard. I think that will rock as well. That will of course be a separate application.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jeffmurray:
Untrusted Certificate

I have the same problem as this fella. I am running clean shipped ROM on Tytn II 1.56.405.5.

It runs ok if I start the link from Programs, it just wont map to the right soft key with either of the registry edit methods, or the soft key changers. The above error is returned.

It does launch from a mapped hardware button too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thaihugo:
If FFF uses the standard WM6 API to connect to the GPS, it makes no difference between the internal GPS and an external connected via bluetooth. But I this that now it only probe one com port.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robw1978:
Some more ideas

Great app. More apps should take their cue from the simplicity.

1. Link to GPS apps from the address saved in the contacts. (such as the google maps app).

2. Ability to scroll down the list of contacts that have already been found, using the scroll wheel for this would be good.

3. Show the contact picture. Could be shown in the list (although maybe too small). Should definitely be shown in the individual contact screen though.

4. Sending GPS position. The link generation should not take place until a GPS location has been confirmed.

And many thanks for a great app.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scouser_75:
Hey guys, has the new beta version got a default setting to the current contacts button? or do we still have to map it to the button we wish to use?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dwimmerlaik:
You still need to map it via a registry edit. I believe the feature is on the "to do" list to be added.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scouser_75:
Cool. Thanks for reply Dwimmerlaik.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AliceXES:
Excellent software, unusable by me (see attach)

Eten X800, VGA screen, default (without any TrueVGA patch).

Keyboard occupies about 2/3 of the screen, with the taskbar, status bar & contacts list taking over the rest 1/3 of the screen.

So:

- keyboard too big, letters too small, too much space between letters, unusable.

- contacts list to small, phone numbers are almost impossible to read

- When I select a contact, a lot if screwed up (see second attach, only the RED lines where added by my - on first line you can see only a little yellow)

My suggestions:

For VGA mode:

- Bigger fonts

- Usable keyboard :)

In general:

- Possibility to import 'contacts' pictures and show it into the contacts list

- Show all the contacts at beginning, then filter by the keys pressed

- Possibility to navigate in the shown contacts with joystick

*ZIP file contains attachments in real size
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thomassster:
wow...awesome software.

only two things to enhance would be if there is a way to scroll down. also once you click on a contact and you screw up, you can make a softkey shortcut to go back or cancel instead of clicking on the X on top right. other than that, this takes over my default.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wkm1:
well done, but...

... the keyboard letters should be a little bit bigger

makes them easy to read

... the results are to small, make it bigger (and scroll)

this would result in a faster selection

... the final icons could be in a vertical row and BIGGER

they would be more finger friendly

thanks for your freeware - greetings from Vienna /Austria

wkm1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dan13l:
Really, really nice work. Just to echo what everyone else is saying, this is by far the best contact manager I've seen on the device. It's a keeper, I think.

The only feedback I have (and again, this echos some of the previous comments) is:

- Please make the font larger when viewing a contact. It's quite hard to read from a distance, and I tend to keep my phone in front of my screen as my contacts database, then dial on my landline.

- Please include an option to easily bind FFF to one of the soft keys.

- A Shortcut on the "clear" screen to add a new contact would be good.

- Perhaps some sort of list of most recent contacts would also be nice? Maybe a button above the keyboard to display your last 10 searches?

- Some way of dialling or SMSing without going "into" the contact would be good too. Maybe a left to right gesture for call, and an L shaped left to right to down gesture for sms?

- Contact photos would be nice, but not essential

Just to reiterate, fantastic app, and I look forward to watching it grow. With a few of the above features, I'd be happy to throw a donation into the pot for this one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dwimmerlaik:
Heh, a lot of folks don't realize that the "OK" key on the bottom keypad (Below the button with the red phone) and the "OK" key on the left side of the phone (below the scroll wheel) both do the same thing as clicking on the red "X" in the upper right-hand corner.

Basically, both of the "OK" buttons will perform whatever action is currently indicated by the icon in the upper right-hand corner. If it shows as "OK" then the "OK" buttons will perform that action. If the icon shows as a red "X" then the "OK" buttons will perform that action.

So, to answer your request, you already have what you need. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Many of us have remapped the hardware OK button to quick launch something else. Personally, I'm fine with the OK at top.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thaihugo:
And some don't even use this on a kaiser.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tothotspur:
great app, it would be good if you could have an option to make a favourite list of contacts
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kagekouen:
I searched the thread but didn't see it, but does this app have threading for the SMS and MMS sends and receives? (aka threaded messaging)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamesus:
No. The author of this thread has stated that this will be contact manager only.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] padawan:
Off topic question...

What macro lense are you using on your Canon EOS and WHO ARE THE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN on your website. (just kidding) ;-)

Very impressive.

Oh, and your FFF app ROCKS too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bushd:
This is an AWESOME program and the GPS stuff works. I emailed it to my dad using my keychain Holux M-1200. It sends my coordinates as well as a link to a map of where I'm at. So cool. The only problem is it sends out to my Outlook mail which I don't want it to but haven't figured out to change.

The Cons:

- I like the PocketCM all list scroll. However, if that is what causes the slowdown in CM then its fine to not keep it but I do like having an entire list. If they set it up so we can chose options then I would love to see one to open it up like PocketCM finger scroll too.

- Once selecting a contact when the options show up the viewing is 'limited.' By that I mean if their email is even remotely not short it's getting cut off. Would be nice if the length of the string is over X then it will scroll/pan over that length.

- GPS is nice. However, it would be good to have an options screen so that if I send GPS or anything via email I can tell it which email to send through instead of defaulting to Outlook. (Been trying to figure this out.)

- The ability to click 'View Entry' and or 'Edit Entry' like in PocketCM so that it opens the entry in the original contacts.

Most of my cons come from the features that PocketCM have and the Pluses will come from what PocketCM hasn't like loading speed and the GPS sending. Also the fact that pocketCM doesn't allow for internal closing.

If something has been addressed then that is good but I haven't got the time to look through 12 pages of posts right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cckk:
worked great for a week now im having a weird issue, the contact i type shows up fine eg. steve but when i call or text or lookup in outlook it shows up as a different contact eg. ryan. i uninstalled it and reinstalled and it worked fine untill the next soft reset:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jakontil:
hi gurus!,

first, thank you so much for this great application! it's so eye catching and easy to use, currently running great on my TYTN II

second, i'd like to ask if anyone able to map the Finger Friendly Friends set as default contact in phone menu? please i really love this great application!

thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jewcookie:
Wow, this actually works better then I expected. I read this threat a few times but it didn;t seem very handy to me. I came by again and tought "lets give it a try" and I must say that its actually pretty good! Thanx! I i used to use PocketCM for my contacts, I replaced it with FFF.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] amreason:
FFF is nice. But FFF Keyboard will be epic. I cant wait to donate for my copy of FFF Keyboard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
Second to this, +1.

Contact management only is the best approach!

It will be less complicated for the developer (avoid possible bug) and lighter :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
This is a very nice app, I like it :)

My suggestions:

- Ability to show PHOTO in the contact list.

- Favorites (in a list or contact photo).

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] firezero:
Hi I'm having the same problem with this guy after I installed it on my Dopod 818 pro.running WM5.Can any gurus here please enlighten us on our problem.Thanks a million!:confused: :confused: :rolleyes: ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
I have added a FAQ in the very first post og this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thaihugo:
Photo is always nice, but I guess this would slow down the program. I really want to be able to get access to it in a few seconds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VOODOOS!L:
i guess loading all photo's in the list would be slow(er). but in the detailed view of one contact, I really think showing the picture would not take so much time, and it's really a benefit.

showing the photo in the list could maybe made possible as in the PCM contact application. The photo's are not loaded directly, but only after all the rest has been loaded, so you don't have to wait because of the photos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jakontil:
hi jahnoto, first, thank you for this great application mate!

just a thought, will you be able to map the contact button in phone menu directly to finger friendly friends? as if it's a default contact? i like your finger friendly friends much more than the default contact!

thanks mate!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] captainsensible2002:
Love the app but I have a problem which doesn't seem to have been mentioned. If I select the gps option, I get an error that it cannot create the shortlink - is this dependent on being able to access the internet and there be a valid data connection working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alanszabojr:
Suggestion

One small Idea that I'd like to see would be if you press the left joystick it would delete the last letter you have possibly accidently clicked without having to select clear and start over. Just my 2 cents.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dash7869:
u can just drag the screen from right to left.. that should clear the last entered letter
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] padawan:
GPS postion kind of odd?

Is anyone else seeing: Map link: http://xrl.us/77o

Thats all I get when I select "send position"

Also, when I have 2nd gps app running such as BeelineGPS or LiveSearch the "send position" function obtains the coords quickly but the send to options do not work.

I'm out...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ko0ky:
Thanks

Thanks for the app, i've installed it on my tilt without any problems. Will give it a good testing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
I've seen the same thing. My ATT Tilt locks up every time I try to send my location. It gets the fix and reports the location but I can't actually tap on "Send email to a friend", it just sort of freezes.

It will recover eventually but that is the only function I have an issue with.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xander803:
Subscribed for moral support. Program works great for an alpha and is already my default contact app on my Herald. Keep up the great work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] steveweb:
great job! keep up the development!

stefano
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
Version 1.0 alpha 4 is available

Alpha 4 is available for your pleasure! :cool:

Release notes:

- Fixed a bug on the positioning dialog that has caused freeze and/or crash

- Fixed a bug in the map link that sometimes caused wrong addresses

- Displaying all contacts if nothing is typed yet

- Added scrolling. You can scroll with your DPAD, scroll wheel or your finger by touching the right edge of the result view.

- Sorting results alphabetically

- ... and a few details here and there
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greenbep:
Thanks! Is it best to uninstall previous versions, or doesn't it matter?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
The installer uninstalls for you, no worries!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] saint168:
Suggestion: Add a finger friendly "BACK" button to the contact detail screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dgold21:
If I have it mapped to my contacts button via the registry, how do I add new contacts??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] amar_raavi:
Great Application

All these days I was ignoring this thread as I thought this is another PocketCM kind of thing. But after looking into the application today, wow its fantastic. Best application I have ever used.

I have never donated for any member here. But I am going to make my first donation soon for this application developer. Good Job.

Best part is this application gets the GPS fix faster than TOMTOM. That impressed me a lot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] roverman:
Hey Jahnotto,

Looking really great! One thing I noticed, Regular contacts, no matter how you enter the name (Last, First or First Last) ends up listing it as Last, First in the list. Your program turns it around, say you enter John Smith, regular contacts lists it as Smith, John and alphabetizes under the S's. Yours will alphabetize it under the J's