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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Forums are made for debating... :-) I agree with you. ;-)

Of course it's up to Staryon to apply what he is interested into and what could improve his software...

Back to the g-sensor:

What I wanted to say is that the G-sensor cannot say if you are still or if you are moving at constant speed...

So, there is a risk that if I am driving my car and I don't have any acceleration (frontal or lateral) the G-Sensor notifies that I am still.

So... Let's take this example:

1) I am on a parked car -> G-sensor does not detect any acceleration and notify I am still.

2) I start driving -> G-Sensor detects changes in speed and notify I am moving.

3) I reach a cruise constant speed on the highway -> G-Sensor does not detect any acceleration and notify I am still

I have no idea how could we differentiate phase 1 and 3...

Do you have any?

bye,

Danilo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
Hi Khaytsus!

Can you report the cell reselection parameters of your operator?

If you have a Diamond you can access them by typing:

*#*#364#*#*

and going into group->3G Reselection Parameters.

and group->2G Reselection Parameters.

Qhyst, Qqualmin, Qrxlevmin, SIntraFreqSearch, and Treselection are the most important and used in the algorithm for cell reselections (if you want, I wrote a simple pseudocode of this algorithm some time ago).

Actually you can't do anything about it... But understanding where does the problem lie is always worthy... ;-)

Sorry Staryon, for being a bit OT in your thread now...

bye,

Danilo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
not a problem. I like these types of discussions :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tolgaulas:
I love team works :) And your points all are valid (and i am assuming you ride a perfect car on a perfect road without letting any force applying on the g sensor)

Let's extend the scenario: I've checked-in the imaginary option "use G sensing to switch y sec interval" while my normal interval is set x interval for GPS reading. (x>y). Phone is in the same car.

1- Phone is still. No force on g sensor and gps polling is at x secs.

2- Phone is moving 'coz g sensor is sensing movements for sometime. gps polling is now at y secs

3- Phone is still. (assumption). No force on g sensor and gps polling is at x secs.

If the situation #2 is valid for the half of the total duration (of all three situations) then you can decrease your power consumption dramatically while having more frequant readings along the total duration.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ViGilant_spb:
hi! thank you for your great program!

I've such a problem: I need to test wi-max coverage, so I configured TrackMe for uploading data to server and store offline data (not upload)/ But when I export this offline data - it's the same as online..Or almost the same, but exactly NOT all offline track points.

Perfectly would be if program puts red marker when offline and green when online.. And We are thinking how attach data transfer speed and ping time to every online track point =)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] unclemonkey77:
Cell ID not found in databases. Skipped

I get this error every time, no matter which of the databases I try. I searched for the error throughout the forum and couldn't find anything. Am I missing something easy? Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I finally got a chance to try this today and I can't get that code to work, nor do I see anything in the Options on my Tilt (ROMeOS, not stock dialer).

I do have the "Field Test" program, however, and I found them there:

Qhyst1s = 1db, Qhyst2s = 0db

Qqualmin =20db

Qrxlevmin = -20dbm

SIntraFreqSearch = 6db

Treselection = 1s
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Sorry, I just noticed your reply! If you don't mind. I've found a few things related to these that are GPS defaults for when something goes wrong, but not sure how they are in relation to power.

Thanks! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Hi there,

I'm not sure if I understand. What do you mean when you say 'not all offline track points'?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Could you post an example of Cell ID that doesn't work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Web Viewer update!

pammetje, a TrackMe user is helping redesigning the web interface and fixing some bugs.

You can test the beta version by going to:

http://luisespinosa.com/trackme2

I really appreciate all his hard work. Thanks a lot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Looks pretty good! It's a little too wide on my 1280 monitor, the righthand section has a little bit of a horizontal scrollbar. And the pop-up calendar isn't quite right, it just pops up over the cursor with red text, no background, and hard to read.

Something I've never been able to get to do is to actually limit the view to a given range, such as 4-5pm when the track is actually 4-6 and only seeing the first hour of points, etc.. Could that possibly be fixed, or have I been doing something goofy and it works for everyone else?

I can't seem to get "Bearing Arrows" to show in the new interface. and when you first enter, it doesn't show the last trip, it shows the whole planet.

Just sayin', in case you were looking for some input. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wally80:
I have never seen a so low hysteresis...

Hysteresis is the margin that is used for avoiding the ping pong effect...

The mobile selects a new cell only if the power of the new cell is Qhyst dB higher than the current cell (+ an offset) for Treselection seconds.

If you have a low hysteresis the algorithm is more reactive but more ping pong happens.

1dB is really low... Even moving a chair close to your mobile could change this small power value...

In my case I have 6dB and 5dB as hysteresis in my two operators.

It would be interesting to survey the values from other users...

Additionally... Are you sure that Qqualmin is positive?

The reselection algorithm is performed only when the received power is less than Qqualmin+Sintrasearch (and in your case it would mean ALWAYS)...

mhmmm...

anyway, thank you for posting your values...

I gain day by day the idea that operators leave most equipments with their default values without a real planning...

ciao,

Dan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
You're right, qqualmin is -20db, not 20db. :)

Interesting info on the values, and certainly matches what I am seeing here. :( I wonder if I could call 'em and complain. I'm sure I'd get a big fat "HUH?" out of 'em.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kilrah:
Same here, are the databases US only?

228-2-17000-31401
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] licht77:
Sorry - i am blind :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pennywisdom:
What do I put in the password on my WM device then?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcleek:
As Staryon previously posted, you can use any user name and password combo. If that user name/password combo isn't already on the server an account will be created for you automatically.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
hey jcleek,

it's being a little bit difficult to keep up with all the updates that you are doing and the different tools. Do you think you can write a short description of every tool and include a link where to get the latest? So I can put all that in the main page.

Thanks a lot for your work!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbritten:
can anyone recommend a good free hosting site that will allow me to set this up. I tried 007ihost.com but can't upload .kml files for some reason.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] laakness:
I've used phpwebhosting.com in the past and they were always great to deal with.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
why don't you use the one that comes by default? I don't charge anything for using it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbritten:
because im trying to set up the google maps server with selectable maps. does each user have their own folder on your server or all the kml file for everyone put in the same routes folder?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcleek:
Staryon,

The only real tool I did was included in the install zip file which hasn't been changed. But to make things easier I have put the zip file here and you can link directly to that so it will always lead to the latest version.

The test file I am working on isn't finished so that isn't really ready to be included.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
oh... I understand. Yes, all the kml files are placed in the same folder.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcleek:
Database Test Page

Ok guys, I got a rough (emphasis on rough) database thing going.

Test database page

Instead of loading a KML click the LOAD FROM DATABASE link. I am pretty sure you can figure the rest of it out. Let me know what you think!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AndyInFl:
Thanks to everyone working on this project.

I installed this on my stock rom Tilt. (v2.0.9.24)

When I press start I get th following:

Position added correctly.

Generating local .kml file...

The data type is not valid for the boolean operation.[Data type if known =...

Stroring xx.xxx ......

(Repeat)

(Repeat)

Do I have something set wrong? I have done an install, a removal, and a reinstall and get the same thing.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
{edited}

Please check next post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
AndyInFl,

Could you try the following?

Go to Tools->Export GPS Positions.

Once you are there, select source=LOCAL and destination=LOCAL.

After that try exporting data with Trip=<None>, Trip=<Any>, and Trip = a trip that you have. Don't select a date range.

Let me know if at least one those tests work fine.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daesimps:
Perfect!!!:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p25o1:
does track me store the speed and time of the trip at each point,,,

i would like to have that since we go gokarting and this way i can track may lap time and speed :-) i'm sure other will like this option.

please add it in the new version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcleek:
I won't keep posting the link but the test page is going to be updated until I get all the kinks worked out. I figured out how to center based on all points in the trip on the database query and standardized the page looks.

Test database page

If you have ideas on how to make it better let me know. If nobody has any changes I will upload the code so everyone can have it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] odie3:
Yes, speed on each bubble would be very nice, I was thinking the same thing last night.

Looks very nice and I am looking forward to a release!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daesimps:
I could be wrong, but I am sure that the first time I tried it (earlier today before your changes) the DB query presented a list of trips from the DB. This doesn't seem to be an option now. Have you removed it? (or am I being stupid and it didn't exist to start with?;) )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcleek:
Try it again guys. If you get an error or some weirdness wait 60 seconds and refresh. I am working on it as you are looking at it. Got any ideas for improvements?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
What is the average size of one GPS position upload ? I am merely trying to calculate the cost of GPRS traffic for a 500 km trip sending a position every 30 seconds. At 100 km/hr average speed that would be 5 hours or 600 positions uploaded.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blufade:
cool :)

works like charm on my diamond
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pimmie87:
First i also have to say that your program kicks ass :)

Second a question, I have logged some gps positions but they aren't stored (on-line) as a trip. Now i want to remove them out of the database on your server by using the "manage trips" option in trackme on my ppc.

But the problem is that i can't remove the points because i can only remove the points by removing the trip that there in. But as said they aren't in a trip.....

Is there a way to remove them, or store them in a trip so i can remove them that way.

And now about the "battery saving / accelerometer option" On the LEM forum is a topic from philg where he gives a suggestion about it.

You (staryon) mention that you don't understand it totally. I think he means the following:

1. A position is tracked by gps/cellid

2. A second position is tracked

3. Difference is compared

4. If difference is less then say 10m trackme can assume that your not moving and will set update time to say 3 minutes.

If difference is more than 10m trackme can assume that your moving and sets updates time to default (30sec).

5. After update time (3minutes or 30 sec) has passed start at point 1 again.

The "don't upload when less then xx meter" can still be used of course.

This way the gps is activated ten times less when not on the move. It is a lot simpler then the accelerometer version and it works just fine i think. And it will work on any phone also when it doesn't have the accelerometer. And last but not least, by changing the update time settings you can choose between battery saving or fast updating.

I hope its clear this way and of course its just an idea, staryon is free to use it how he likes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
I stumbled onto this TrackMe program just yesterday. What a beautifull project! In minutes I had it running on a very old QTEK2020 which I had flashed last week to WM6.1 WWE ROM. This in combination with a BT GPS Holux GPSslim236. Did a test run in my neighborhood while my son was tracking me life on his PC.

I have read about 100 pages of this thread and had set a 30 second upload cycle. It gave me a fair track but why not set the rules for uploading somewhat like OZIexplorer ? That would give a more accurate track on street maps. Like 1) Upload when driving straight every so many meters or seconds whichever comes first and 2) Upload when heading changes more than x degrees. This would upload a position at every turn and look better I would think ?

Anyway this is the kind of project I feel deserves a little sponsoring from everybody and I will do so right away
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
I tried the Paypal link in your signature. Had to try 3 times before it worked. Just in case you receive 3 payments instead of one, dont worry it's still worth it. I will just not pay as frequently later on... ;^)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I've estimated here sending GPS data (not Cell ID) to my own server and watching the traffic.. This will vary a few bytes based on the tripname of course, but I think a pretty close estimate is 789 bytes per transaction. This includes some of the initial packet handsoffs, post, and transaction tear-down, but I could be missing a little. None the less, it's a pretty small transaction.

So I estimate 462k total for your 600 positions, give or take.

Unless you need live tracking you can always save the positions offline and then upload 'em when you have access to WiFi or something.

Cell ID stuff would be higher, because it does a lookup on the CID info, get the coordinates back, then posts those coordinates back to the website (as I understand it? It might not post them back, so potentially it could be a wash on packet sizes..)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Google is not. I don't know about the others.

By the way, I checked that cell id with Google and it worked fine.

This is the command sent to the server from TrackMe:

http://luisespinosa.com/trackme/cellid_google.php5?myl=228:2:17000:31401

Maybe your problem is a connection issue...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
bobsys,

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your contribution.

I got one donation of $20. Let me know if it's wrong and I will refund it to you.

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
pimmie87,

Thanks for your comments!

Yeah, I noticed that the other day. If you want to delete positions that are not assigned to a specific trip, you can go to Tools->Delete positions and select <None>

Thanks for the explanation. I think it makes sense.

I'll think about it, I will probably be adding that feature.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, I think it's doable. I will add it to the to do list.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
No it's right and it did work as intended. It means you have more coming as the project progresses or whenever another romantic dinner becomes mandatory to keep the misses happy ;^)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsys:
Excellent information. Exactly what I was looking for. I have 5 MB per month to use for this purpose sso enough for roughly 6000 KM. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
lol.... yeah! that would help a lot!

thanks again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hedphelym:
Thanks, i will definately use this software alot.

i drive my motorcycle every single day, and i really love that you can view it in google maps and such.

Keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tolgaulas:
Oh! I've thought that it's (= when the cellid changes, it updates the gps position) already there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gibbage:
OK. so i used trackme to track my progress on my recent motorcycle trip from LA to Seattle. I dont know if its my host or the program but viewing the map is very slow and everyone gets script errors. can someone take a lok? www.gibbageart.com/TrackMe hb
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Almost 2300 points is likely going to be slow in several respects.. Lots of stuff going back and forth to google, lots of data in the browser, lots of points to plot, etc...

Maybe best to break it up in to daily trips, at least that'd 'only' be maybe 2/3 or 1/3 as many points.

How often did you have it updating? You could probably extend the period on your next trip. Just a quick estimate looks like you were updating every 10-15 seconds, seems very short for such a long trip. Especially if you're on pretty straight roads, 30-45s is probably more appropriate. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
It's not exactly the same. He meant to upload the position when heading changes more than x degrees.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ViGilant_spb:
Sorry =) That's my hands growing from the wrong place =)

Everything's working, option "Never" was enabled (instead of "if unable to upload").
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Hi,

I noticed that all pictures uploaded going to be fix cropped to 4:3 800x600

so if you use a digital camera and want to add those pictures to the trip as well,

you should pre crop it to 800x600. Otherwise the aspect ration maybe violated...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGAN:
Is the GPX format still on the agenda? I ask because I have some strange effects converting the existing kml file to gpx...

PS: I tried to use gpsbabel (http://www.gpsbabel.org/) to convert the generate kml file into nma, nmea or gpx to load it into copiks (http://software.copiks.com/photomapper/) I used as pgeotagger till now, but with out any luck. I will try next geosetter (http://www.geosetter.de/en/) recommended by a friend, but this is a huge tool doing much more then I need and not very intuitive to use in my opinion.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
pammetje made a new Web viewer update.

You can check the new viewer from here:

http://luisespinosa.com/trackme2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Yes, it's in the to-do list. Actually I started working on that but something else came up (I think cell id tracking) and I gave it up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lextendo:
Staryon, you made a great piece of software!!! love it :)

Just one question: I can't seem to delete positions? Using settings -> Delete positions, I hit the get existing button, select a trip and hit delete. I get a confirmation the trip was deleted, however refreshing my trip list with the get existing button the trip which supposed to be deleted is still there?

It's a minor thing and I don't know if it's a server (yours at luisepinosa.com) or a client (version 4.11.7.103) thing?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
Hi lextendo,

Thanks for your comments!

'Delete positions' will only delete the positions associated with a trip. It won't delete the trip itself. If you want to delete a trip you need to go to Manage Trips, click Get Existing, select a trip and choose 'Delete'

Hope it helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
New version available

- TrackMe's core has been partially rewritten and optimized.

- Configuration. Some menus and options have been rearranged.

- Now you can Force an update when using Cell ID tracking.

I have been working during the whole weekend on this. I really wanted to do this a long time ago.

When I started working on TrackMe I didn't expect that one day it would include cell tracking. In order to make it work I had to "patch" part of the code and I never was too happy about those changes that I made.

Now I have changed that. All the code is cleaner and ready to add future sources if available (At this moment we have Cell ID and GPS but maybe other sources will appear).

I have been testing it for a few days and everything seems to work fine. However, if you guys find something that stopped working please let me know.

Enjoy!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I found a small bug when setting the configuration and I just uploaded a new version.

.105 should be the latest.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dutchnomad:
Availability new viewer

Hi there,

To start with I like the software very much it took some time to get it working on my own server but is works now.

I would love to see the code behind the project, especially the client!!

How do we obtain the new viewer for use on our own servers?

since I am hosting my own TrackMe sever and would like to check out the new web viewer. Since I don't log to the 'default' site I would like to know how to use it on my own server.

Regards, and many thanks,

Jan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dutchnomad:
Problem in new version?

Hi there, just installed a new version and made a testdrive. Back from the testdrive I viewed the server (I run my own server with TrackME) I didn't see any position data from the testdrive. Is something wrong? Did I miss something?

I put in a little (debug) logging and I see that the server (request.php) was called.

Pls. advice

Regards,

Jan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
I haven't uploaded the new viewer yet. The person who is working on that is making changes almost every day, so I will wait until it's more stable.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _LEM_:
It's hard to tell. It can be so many things... your data has not been uploaded (you are working in offline mode), you are not assigning the positions to a specific trip (check if you have <None> selected). You can also check if your data is in the database.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] timoline:
Hi,

thx for the new version , works great!

Also thx to pammetje for the new layout, looks really good!

Br,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dutchnomad:
Feature request client

Hi, i would like to propose a feature, to my opinion not too hard to implement in the client:

I would like to have a the selection box for trips on the main screen.

What do you think?

Greetz,

Jan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] OS-ZloyMuh:
i can't login (http://luisespinosa.com/trackme/index.php)

login: OS-ZloyMuh

pass: (I write correctly)

but no access

maybe "-" in login ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dutchnomad:
the strange thing is that I only changed the client with the new version (yesterday all went fine), created a newtrip and start tracking.

I even put log info just before the position is stored in MySQL and just after is was stored (well that should be done). I attached a log file to show this.

$log->log('Ready to store position');

mysql_query($sql);

$log->log('Position stored');

$upcellext = urldecode($_GET["upcellext"]);

By the way, I checked to see if the positions were stored offline by trying to upload offline posiotns, but the system tells me there aren't any. Which is as expected.

Jan