yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anonova:
You probably would have made more money off advertisements (on the website that is).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ilordvader:
Does anyone know ?

Whts the Diff between Finger-Friendly

&

PocketCM Contact v0.15

http://pocketcm.com/beta.php

also at www.wm6software.net

Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
Umm...they list that it's free but donations are welcomed? ;)

...simmer down folks, don't start up your ***** fest and developer leg humping mob again.

It is a similar app but lacks the 'asdf;lkj' keyboard or whatever it's called. FFF i believe has quicker filtering to get to your contacts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ilordvader:
Thank you for ur Help :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Hahaha...Glad we all can retain a sense of humor...

Also, FFF has a much smaller memory footprint. PCM is kinda big. It may be prettier, but it's a ton bigger and slower IMO. PCM also has the integrated SMS threader. It's a neat feature, tho I still wish it was separate from the Contact Manager part of the app. FFF has the feature to integrate with a GPS and be able to SMS/email someone your location (which I find also bloatware-ish).

PCM is currently donation-based. I don't remember if the developer date-limits them like he does PCM Keyboard. Also, PCM is skinnable.

Both are very nice ways to get to your contacts. PCM look and feel are reminiscent of the iPhone. FFF is simpler. It's keyboard functions supposedly how the iPhone does (you just have to hit the vicinity of a letter for it to use that letter in searching), but otherwise, its not iPhone-ish.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galenmd:
While I like fff, I am not purchasing right now. With 3,000 contacts, it takes 16 seconds to load. That's really frustrating when I just want to make a quick call.

Please, find a way to save the scanned contacts. Scan once a week or something.

Also, the window that appears over the keyboard can't keep up with me at all. There is a delay of 1.5 seconds after each press. If I press faster the fff, it still works OK, just not as reassuring.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VOODOOS!L:
PocketCM is still free ~ FFF 15$

PocketCM has full SMS integration, with SMS conversation ~ FFF no SMS integration

PocketCM has decent contact picture display, contact info editing, contact note editing ~ FFF no contact pictures, no contact editing

PocketCM has NO DRMWY-Touch (Doesn't Really Matter Where You Touch) keyboard, only scrolling or normal keyboard ~ FFF has a DRMWY-Touch keyboard and can scroll

PocketCM has nog GPS location integration ~ FFF has GPS location sending integration

.

Correct me if I'm wrong
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
Nice work, looks good to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AcIDx0:
One small obvious suggestion

Hi!

First off, I have to say its a magnificent app, and I would sure buy it after a few weeks.

Although, I found one thing that could improve the program significantly:

After I found the contact I want and selected it, the "SEND" button should dial the contacts number! On the contact list screen and on "contact actions" screen!

Also, as it has been suggested a contact picture on the contact actions screen would be a plus.

Please bind the SEND button, and you got yourself a customer (and maybe more because i'll definitely suggest it to the folks at work)

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
I'm not sure what you mean by the "send" button.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AcIDx0:
The hardware ("real") button on the phone. The one with the green headset drawn on it. On the KAISER its right above the Microsoft button, or the most top left button.

Also can I somehow be notified of updates?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
This feature is the very reason why I won't use PocketCM. A contact manager should NOT be messing with the SMS system, and the author's refusal to at least make this optional means I'll never use it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
Can this application be used as the contact manager to LINK to the threaded SMS apps? That is the real question.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
I guess that depends on which SMS program you have. E.g. I have the Threaded Palm SMS app. When I find a contact thru FFF, and click on Send SMS, it opens up a new SMS with the addressee field pre-populated. It's a hand-off from FFF to the SMS app. It's not "integrated". I think the same will happen with the default SMS/MMS app (Pocket Outlook). Don't know for sure. And not sure about other SMS apps either. But for the Palm threaded SMS app, it does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VOODOOS!L:
true, from (app) design point of view, this isn't the best...but from usability point of view: it works very well and looks very nice...and as long as it uses the default outlook SMS db to store and retrieve SMS's, I can live with it.

the addition of the nice DRMWY-Touch keyboard into PCM would make it almost perfect for many users I guess
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
A little story

A funny little story from the real world:

Yesterday, I was traveling to Bergen, Norway. After a work meeting, I was going to see some friends over there. My friend was going to pick me up, and I tried to explain my whereabouts using my poor knowledge of the local Bergen geography.

After a while I realized that "Doh!! I could have sent my position using FFF!" :p

Perhaps I should attend to a "FFF for dummies" course ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] freecall:
Hi Jahnotto

as you may remember sending GPS position via SMS or mail is not working on my Kaiser and that would be for me the real killer feature of FFF.

As the trial is now over I can not test anymore, so will you inform me when it should be fixed ?

I would apprechiate a postive test before buying . Thanks

Freecall
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PiotrM:
Request

Hi there Jahnotto,

Here is a request from a paying customer :D

Is there any way that you can place an "Video call" button on the profile?

It's a hell of a job to be able to call a person using a video call. There isn't a menu option in the outlook profile, you have to be in the outlook address list, click and hold and from that menu you can make a video call.

Can it be done?

Plz :o :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
I support the above because my current dialer is the one from KaiserTweak and has video call option off.

Im also a paying customer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
Your specific problem is a though one. I'm still trying to figure out what happens.

Your logfile is very helpful, though. Send me the "owner name" of your device to me on email, and I'll give you a free license. It comes at a price, however: please let me know whether the problem gets solved for you ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
I'll put it on the todo list. There are other things like customizable font sizes that are prioritized higher, though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PiotrM:
Thx

and Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all :D

//Piotr
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] amac64:
Is there some way of changing the configeration for the contact manager? When I open a contact, I would like to send a text message to an email address, but my options seem to be SMS to the cell phone or use outlook to send it to the email address. I want to send a text message to the email address. I can change the SMS address to the email address and that seems to work.

Thanks for the software, I like it and will be purchasing it.

Thanks

Andy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] srmz:
I too made a similar request earlier. There should be a way to send SMS to fields other than the Mobile Number. I know this can be done by going to the OutLook program but the ability to do so directly from the Finger Friendly Contacts Manager would be a more elegant solution. Maybe this can including in some future release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evilc:
Can I make a suggestion RE: the trial?

If the trial expires, please put an option in the "Your trial has expired" box to set the default contacts app back to the outlook one.

I was on holiday whilst my trial expired and it was a real pain :(

And before you say I could have just registered via a web cafe or something, I could not - my wallet with all my cards in was stolen :(

I still cannot register, I have to wait for my new cards to arrive, so I am still stuck with FFF as my default contacts app...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ekw:
just change the softkey back to contacts.... Advanced config does this, Tweak2k2 also does it too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evilc:
They are all 3rd party though, right?

I am just saying that it is very poor form. If you uninstall FFF, you are left with a broken PPC as it does not set the defaults contacts prog back how it was before you installed it.

I am still without my credit cards and until I get them this is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS AND I AM NOT AMUSED!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hans_olo:
Hi evilc,

you can also change this with a registy editor:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSCONTACTS

-> Change the value of 1 back to :MSPOUTLOOK contacts

But I completely agree with you, this really should be changed in FFF.

Greetz,

Hans Olo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Slalom Frog:
I had the trial run out on me and I was able to access the menu in FFF while the "trial is over" message displayed. I was able to turn off FFF as my default contact manager. I don't remember the exact details but I was able to change it after the trial ran out. Maybe I just got lucky?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
It's a bug in the installer.

You can install version 1.1 alpha 0 (available at http://www.jotto.no/fff/download.html) and then uninstall it again. It will revert to the built-in contact manager.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jomo25:
Any other features in the 1.1 preview?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jahnotto:
Nothing useful for end users. You can set the font size in the settings, but it won't make any difference ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] michalopoulosgk:
where do we download the latest version from? Is there a non-free and non-expiring version, and how does one access it?

EDIT: I found it...I will purchase and download.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mattcity:
Does this install and remove the old settings for the beta versions (reverting back to default contacts) with out buying the licence, I purchased a copy but i shared it with several people i work with and they now cant get the default settings back now it has expired

thanks

Matt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swatcop1:
Just bought it and installed on my tilt w/o any issues. Great product and super fast!!! Before this, it was a major issue with the tilt. Not anymore!

I put the icon on one of the HTC home screen luncher square and stored it on my memory card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
Suggestion from a paid user.

Please allocate a location to " Return back to search" button because sometimes it is in the lower left of the screen and some times it is in the right (depending on how much information I have stored for a contact - I know- but its inconveient because most of the time it is in the bottom left of my screen, so upon clicking a contact with plenty of info, it will be on the right and my usual jab at the left lower side will take me some where else.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SkyylineGTR:
sorry, but this is really stupid if you have to pay. LOL. Kthx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lawrencel:
I agree that "return back to search" should have its dedicated place, e.g. bottom left or right, or even map it to a softkey.

Also I have one request, this is my feeling and if everyone else feel ok with the current way it works then please disregard it..

Is it possible to keep the position of the keys on the keyboard closer to a normal QWERTY keyboard? As from older version, I used to be able to type without really watching the keyboard and still able to find the right name (that's the beauty of FFF isn't it?).. but since last time I have upgraded, the position of the keys changed and now I really have to look at it to type..

To give an example, on a normal keyboard, letter m is below j and k, in current FFF keyboard layout we have m underneath l, which is quite odd. Now over 80% of the time I still can find the person I want to find... but putting it back to the position of a normal QWERTY keyboard would increase accuracy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GentleMan:
Idea's

Hi,

First - this is great product. Splendid idea of such keyboard, looking forward to a replacement of the main keyboard with the same functions.

However, some ideas for improvement:

I agree with CorruptedSanity on

I think it would really be nice to have such button always on the bottom right hand corner. An idea may be for users to have some sort of a choice via settings.

AND I agree with lawrencel on

However, on this one I would suggest to be able to choose between QWERTZ, QWERTY etc. (so not just swedisch, jo prata ingen svenska...) ;-)

NOW my share:

1. Integration of "Send Email" and Send SMS" with FlexMail.

2. Integration of "In Outlook" with Contacts in Pocket Informant.

3. To add more phone numbers like CarPhone.

4. When returning to "Search", give the option to return straight to "Beginning" - saves in most cases one click.

5. When on button-view of the contact (so where I can press "Call mobile"), there is the standard keyboard displayed on the bottom of the screen. Don't really see what it can be used for...

Just ideas... Keep the spirit up...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galenmd:
I agree with the return to search problem. Should be one-click. If we want to return to search, why would we still want the last name searched to be there? Needs to be: "Return to Search" should mean "(clear and) Return to Search."

Waiting for some serious upgrades before purchasing...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DrX666:
In portuguese we have names that start with Á but FFF sorts the name to the last alphabetically instead of joining it with the A. Can you fix this?

Great program!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
+1 big time
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nlinecomputers:
Just found and downloaded the 1.1 version and 1.0.1 version.

Very nice application. After playing with it for about 30 minutes I have some future requests and a question about "dead items" on the menu.

Would it be possible to add searching in the company name field. Some contacts in my line of work I look up by company name not a person as that person often changes for a few of my clients.(Some businesses are a revolving door.)

The various buttons on the screen after you bring up a contact move. It would be helpful if they stayed fixed and you simply grayed out the button if it is N/A.

The add contacts menu item and open pocket outlook items are dead on my unit. Is this the case for everyone or do I have a problem?

Other then that this is a fantastic app. Much better then pocketcm and all that dang scrolling or the default contact and it's poor keyboard.

Running this on a wizard with TNT.1933 rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nameht83:
would like this as well!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galenmd:
I am not sure if there is going to be any more support/updates for this app. As soon as he started charging for it, we haven't seen much communication about future releases.

Too bad. This could have been a great app with just a little more tweaking. He probably would have also made more just asking for donations instead of purchasing it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
He probably stopped posting about updates thanks to all the vitriol he received when he went commercial. Hell, I'd have done the same thing... People REALLY weren't very pleasant to him...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AndyCr15:
How do I actually remove this though? Yeah, its a good app, but not essential. Now I have to pay... I'd rather go without, but when I remove it and tap 'contacts' it just tells me it cant find FFF anymore...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ckole:
In defense of the developer. Sometimes good things in life aren't free. I would like to thank all of those that are smarter than me and create lots of great free stuff. With that said I like FFF and I paid to use it.

We are lucky that in most cases we get to try software before we buy it. Give the guy a break and if you don't like it remove it. Not sure if you have to change a registry setting if there is a hanging issue with the uninstall. Maybe the answer is already within this thread.

So those that whine about software which others have probably spent countless hours on need to shut it. You ruin what xda is all about.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galenmd:
I agree. His time is definitely worth something and he is certainly entitled to charge for this software. There should be no complaints about that, even if he did get tons of feedback from members on this board.

The issue here is that many feel this application is not complete yet. I am one of those. I will certainly consider purchasing it when/if a newer version comes out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AndyCr15:
Ok, but how do I re-bind the contacts menu to go to PIU Contacts instead of FFF? Anyone know?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FloatingFatMan:
Use FFF's own config to restore the default contacts manager before you uninstall it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cotc2001:
I paid for it, because I love it and think it's the best contact manager out there.

So easy and quick to use
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AndyCr15:
I can't use FFF's own config... it wont run saying I need to pay for it :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Le3hy0r1:
i cant see to restore back my contact button after i uninstall this prog!

can someone give me back my default contact link?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swatcop1:
I bought it and love it. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galenmd:
Reinstall fff, open it and uncheck the option to make it the default contact app, then uninstall.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] joshuah82:
Not sure if it has been reported, and it probably won't happen much if ever in reality, but I thought I'd bring it up since it does appear to be a bug. If you have no contacts and you start FFF it appears to lock and eventually crashes. This happens on the Windows Mobile 6 Professional emulator. Have not tested on a Kaiser (don't have one yet). Running v1.0.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xdamatt:
Great Programm

Design is slick, working fast, almost perfect!!

Just a quick question/suggestion: why is the default key to go 1-step back "backspace" ? For me in most cases the keyboard is closed ... so a little suggestion : why don't put the "go back" function as one touch on the information screen that appears in these cases?

Would be awesome !!

Otherwise a million thanks for sharing this great program

Matt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mobilemaduk:
This App is by far the best contacts app i've tried! Pure genious. The Keyboard is brilliant!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mobilemaduk:
is there any possibility of setting up teh keyboard on this app to be the default input method for all apps?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] widu13:
Jahn,

Any new releases? ie stable release of 1.1 Alpha?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greeek:
Swipe your finger from right back to left on the virtual keyboard.... thats your backspace. :)

Great program...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
hey, i recently purchased FFF, and i love it, the only problem is after a flashed a new rom to my tilt, it now tells me i have 9 days left on my license. when i go to settings and try to enter my license key, i can enter the key, but it doesnt let me enter a license, it says "no license installed" and i cant enter anything in there. Also, what is my license? is it the pocket pc name i made when i purchased it from handango? thanks

omar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
nobody? i paid $15 for this program, i'd like to use it..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
Omar, don expect a lot of attention. As soon as he sold a bunch of the software he barely responds and hasnt updated the app. The major reason I was encouraged to buy it was his active approach to responding online and updating the software.

Thats gone now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greeek:
If you flashed, then you will have a new device ID, so your old license may not work.

Try and email jotto:

http://www.jotto.no/fff/

jotto@jotto.no

I don't think he has disappeared so to speak - there was simply nothing left at this forum for him. He was constantly just copping abuse, and having to justify himself, and then he was told that he had no place here if he charged for it, so really... give the guy a break..

I'm sure he'll be happy to help!

Good luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
greeek, are you his virtual attorney? You seem to be doing a good job of covering up his mess.

He was given a lot talk because he DID in fact mislead people! He never said he was going to sell it, sure he never said he wasnt going to sell it either but he did abuse people's help ( how many error logs and feedback did he get from us??). He should have somehow compromised (like giving XDA members who helped a discount and those who really helped a free copy). Regardless of the abuse he got from here, there are PAYING customers (like me and Omar) who require his previous active approach.

Coz right now it looks like he milked a cow and is enjoying the milk. Eventually the milk will go rancid....

Ohh yeah and how much do you charge? I may need an online attorney since I visit so many forums :D ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greeek:
Aren't you a cute little man! :rolleyes:

Read the thread from beginning to end before you talk your talk.

If you get stumped on a tricky word, PM me and I'll give you a hand...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
greek, im not re-reading 53 pages to find your little puzzle.

Is there a reason the developer has chosen not to be active on this forum? What about updating it?