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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
Try and find out. I'm not interested in trying because of engineering kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] CFoote:
Anyone find a bumper case yet? I'd like to get something that just goes around the edge of the phone without a backing.

I'm having a hard time wanting to put a case on this phone, it is an "active" phone after all...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
I'm curious if we can flash a non-Active firmware on here. I'd like to get my hands on a non-AT&T firmware so I can have a sticking setting for disabling LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Slade8525:
do NOT try that; firmware is different, hardware (active button) is different. dev buddy tried several times and all he managed to do was brick 2 units.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
That's what I figured. Ah well.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
Did he, by chance, try to flash the eng kernel that allows root?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Slade8525:
not sure but i would assume so; his intention was to achieve root.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] brentsalinas714:
I was told you can and worst case scenario is a soft brick. Imo not worth the Hassel if not a daily driver.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Slade8525:
44 hours battery with 8 hours screen on time, out hiking and kayaking with basically no signal; gps on the whole time. not too shabby and about 6 more hours than expected. just some tweaks, app disabler pro, greenify. expecting another 2-4 hours standby or 45-60 minutes screen time once some tasker stuff is set up and active.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
Anyone know if the polycarbonate comes off? I can't handle having a screen protector and my poly is already scratched =\

I'm torn because I really only went active for the extra 1000mah and I can't stand scratches. Screen protectors are never centered and it drives my OCD up the wall.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Slade8525:
according to one user it is indeed removable and samsung apparently confirmed it to a user in the following thread. take your time with screen protectors or have someone else do it; mine are always spot on bubble free 100% but ill re-angle it 20 times; im OCD on that plus i have psychotically good vision. i even reapplied my GF's as there was a tiny bubble trapping dust and it was misaligned slightly and occasionally using hers and knowing it would drive me up the wall. also, S7 Active is awesome; battery life is outstanding; 44 hours 100-1% with 8 hours screen time.

i have glass screen protectors over the OEM plastic ones on our two S7A's, but very nice to know its replaceable anyways.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...e/698798-s7-active-top-layer-replaceable.html
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
Well if that's the case I'm keeping mine. I can deal with that. If anything, pull it off and add tempered.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] aggies52:
Rooting Galaxy S7 Active (G891A)

Hi, I'm new to this thread and only recently jumped back on the android train (been using an iPhone for the past 4-5 years) and I really was looking forward to having freedom again only to find out that the Active essentially is impossible for me to root right now( at least I can't find anything online). I was posting here to find out if anyone knows if there is a method that will allow me to root my S7 Active.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] saf4xdadev:
Samsung S7 Active....The best worst phone on the market. For anyone who thinks the polycarb is removable better think again. If that helps you to think you bought the right phone, just wait until the screen is beat all to hell...but at least it wont be cracked, right?. The engineers at Samsung need to go back to school.....they're a complete bunch of idiots. I really wanted to love that phone but I had to send it back for an S7 with a pelican 'protector' case. Size wise they are about the same only lacking in battery size and the 'active' button. I'm ranting I know but my ocd doesn't allow for screen protectors.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
Cool story bro
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jlczl:
LOL, that's my co-workers exact setup. BTW, he has a shattered screen. At least it still works for him though hahahahahaha. Good luck with your setup.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] saf4xdadev:
If you go and read the article then you will see it is just a regular screen protector for the phone....not the actual polycarb replacement layer. The polycarb aint coming off....no matter how you slice it....

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I hear you on that. I think if you can live with a screen protector then it could be the best phone out there.....I just can't. Especially after forking over an extra 100 for it to begin with. Your coworker would have cracked the glass screen protector you have on your S7a as well and probably scratching the polycarb under it in the process.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
Well whatever was there came off, and I have no scratches yet. I am putting liquid sapphire on it soon so scratches will no longer be a concern
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Slade8525:
there are pretty cheap (sub-$5) GLASS screen protectors that work pretty damn good and feel better to touch than the polycarb screen, and are replaceable. identical response characteristics to polycarb screen or regular S7 glass screen. thats what i use.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] thodibhen:
Are there any devs left that still develop for Samsungs?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] discord2k:
All you guys who are sooooo sure the poly carb is not removable need to Google search. It comes ff fine and you can put your own glass protector on. The screen does scratch easy but it's just a cover. Rest assured you can replace it. Samsung even offers a replacement.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
I just put glass over my polycarbonate, keep Samsung's shatter-resistance and prevent scratches at the same time.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
Advanced messaging? Wifi calling? If so, that was pretty quick compared to previous active versions.

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Confirmed :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
Just got mine used and it was scratched to sh*t. came w/ a tgsp on it even though it was scratched underneath lol didn't see the point of that so just ripped out the tgsp and waiting for either Samsung to start offering the shatter screen replacements or I get impatient and remove the shatter screen and just put a tgsp on it. My only concern (cuz I'm OCD lol) is that the shatter screen fits perfectly over the screen so once removed, the earpiece speaker and buttons are raised higher as I haven't found any tgsp that is a perfect fit to cover every nook and cranny (hope I explained that correctly lol). Illumishield's offering come the closest but I'd rather have everything covered except the earpiece speaker and the button area. I dislike having holes for the sensors and front camera unless it interferes with the functionality cuz of the dust settling in those areas.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] BXWolf92:
I believe (at least for the proximity sensor), that you need those holes. The proximity sensor would detect something on it with glass over it like that. And the camera may warp a little, I would think, depending on how good the glass is (which would not be visible from our side, since the screen is close to the glass, but would be visible for the phone since objects would be further away)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
Well it already has the shatter screen over it so I assume most tgsp would be fine. I also have a 6p and that one didn't like it when there was a tgsp over it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] saf4xdadev:
All screen protectors are going to have the holes cutout and therefore dust and ocd feelings are going to come into play. I had the same problem when I originally bought an S7A because my ocd doesn't like screen protectors so I had to trade it for an S7 and put it in a lightweight pelican case. At the end of the day the s7's gorilla glass is plenty strong and with the pelican make it almost as protected as the s7a.

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Sorry, but that's just wrong. I just got off the phone with Samsung Tech Support and after getting several Tech's involved, for redundancy purposes, they all confirmed that the polycarbonate layer on top of the gorilla glass on the S7 active is not removable, replaceable, or anything else except very very easily scratchable.

They stated emphatically that the polycarbonate layer is bonded to the gorilla glass and it will not come apart without some serious destruction to the phone.

So no....the top polycarbonate layer on the S7a is not removable...so don't count on that when your s7a is all scratched up. Like everyone said on this thread, immediately after purchase put a glass screen protector on your brand new s7a, else you'll be sorry.

One other thing the Samsung Tech's mentioned is that scratches are not warranted and as of the time of this writing, the only way to replace the screens on the s7a's is by mailing them into Samsung repair. The walk-in samsung stores don't have the parts yet....and may never.

Maybe next go around the Samsung engineers will finally get it right. They were really close with the Rugby pro....they just need to implement that kind of engineering into the next active type phone......which this s7a should have been.

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If you're referring to this:

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/et-fg891ctebus-et-fg891ctebus/

Then look closer and read completely.....this is nothing more than a regular screen protector.

The polycarbonate layer is completely bonded to the gorilla glass on the s7a. They don't come apart under any reasonable or unreasonable circumstances.

Edit to above: Open mouth insert foot. It looks like I am most likely wrong about the removable polycarbonate layer on the s7active. After even more research and finally just reading the owners manual for the s7active on page 6 it does indeed describe the removable top layer of the screen as being replaceable. The replacement is only going to be sold by Samsung but never the less it will be available sometime in the future. Even though I would like nothing more than to keep going round and round on this issue (joking) I've spent enough time on a subject that evidently I know very little about. Maybe next time I'll get it right. Until then....
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jlczl:
Well somehow this person got it off:

Why do you think it is just a regular screen protector other than some guy on the phone telling you that? The description says that it's a replacement screen protector. What would it be replacing other than the factory-installed Shatter-Shield? Why do you say to look closely? Is that because you see that the screen protector design is not the same as the one that's on an actual S7 active? If so, keep looking closer and you'll notice that the picture is not even of a S7 active as the buttons are like the ones from a previous phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] darknessrise1234:
What I pulled off seemed like a screen protector but it wasn't the quality of a normal one. It felt different and was a different thickness. I have liquid sapphire on my base display so I don't have to worry about scratches even if it is polycarbonate layered.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
It should be the shatter screen. I don't see why they would not call it a screen protector if that's what it is. Here is the link to the instructions and it IS for the S7A straight from Samsung with pictures to match: http://www.samsung.com/us/system/consumer/accessory/et/fg/89/etfg891ctebus/ET-FG891_Quick-Start-Guide-S7-active-replacemen-screen-layer-replacement_2.pdf (letting the link show its from Samsung) Doesn't matter if you spoken to 10 support techs, most companies' support training is abysmal and probably aren't even part of Samsung proper but outsourced. If they were well trained, they would've linked you to those instructions and claim that you can remove the "screen protector" if that's what it really is. In any case, whatever that layer is, it's removable and that's what some are referring to and doing because it scratches easily so it really doesn't matter what it is or what it's called. The unanimous point is that is scratches hella easily and some are willing to remove it completely once scratched to put on a tgsp while others are putting one on anyways even if theirs weren't scratched

And yes there are tgsp w/o sensor holes for phones that support it like my OPO. Here's a perfect example: OPO TGSP Unless you're just referring to the S7A but even then only the camera cutout for some.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] saf4xdadev:
I apologize for stirring this up....not my intention at all. In fact I could be very wrong along with some Tech supports as I just read the owners manual for the s7active and on page 6 it describes the replaceable screen layer. So I'll be darned. My apologies again.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jlczl:
Well whatever the reasoning the top layer IS removable and there appears to be a replacement coming direct from Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
Yup and depending on the price, I will get one and then put a tgsp right on top on it. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] saf4xdadev:
You're right and I'm wrong. As I stated above and to an edit even further above I did what any Tech Support person should have done when questioned about the phone....I read the owners manual.....and page 6 clearly describes the top protective polycarbonate layer as being removable and replaceable.

It also states it will easily scratch under 'normal' use.....but that's another subject all together and right now my credit worthiness is about zero.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] disturbd1:
Alright guys and gals, I've got one of these en route as a warranty replacement (alternative) for a G4. What do I need to know, outside of the need for a screen protector?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
I can attest to it being easily scratched which probably helps with it being shatter resistant...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] CFoote:
Great phone, haven't had any issues with it at all. Battery life is fantastic. You might want a TPU case if you are worried about scuffing the actual phone, but other than that I love it, best phone I've had to date.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] disturbd1:
Any nuances, quirks, annoyances you've discovered? I never buy cases for my phones, I'm a few notches above anal about taking care of my devices. I've decided to do the liquid screen protection, as mentioned prior in the thread. Seems like a great and minimalist way to protect the finicky screen overlay.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] CFoote:
Nothing I can really note to be honest. Marshmallow is a pretty mature OS and I personally haven't found any fault in it. I reboot my device at least once a week. I had to reformat my SD card to have it 'seen' by the phone. Other than that, it's been a fantastic phone, hopefully others can chime in with any concerns/gripes.

As you probably know, updates for the "Active" series usually come a little slower than the regular S series, this is a AT&T unique device so updates always lag a few months behind the regular lineup. I'm OK with that given the battery life, which was the big selling point for me on this device.

Chris
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
Most recent update was only 10 days behind my wife's S7... So vast improvement over previous Active versions.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Miami_Son:
OK, got my S7A, an upgrade from my S5A that replaced my S4A that I smashed. One thing I really liked on the S5A that annoyed me about the S4A was the ability to scroll endlessly on Home screens and app drawer screens. Now, the S7A has gone back to the way the S4A stopped on end screens forcing you to scroll back to get to beginning screens. Why would they do away with this? If you have a lot of screens it really is a PITA to have to scroll back and forth instead of being able to just scroll endlessly in one direction or the other.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] disturbd1:
You haven't played around with different launchers? Not meaning to seem insulting, but if you haven't, check out Nova (or others). You can set endless scroll, among a plethora of great options for customizing your home screens.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Miami_Son:
No, I haven't. I may do so, but I was using the stock launcher on my S5A and expected the same basic functionality on my S7A, not a return to something I disliked on my S4A from 2 years ago. Silly me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] mcholly7:
Hi, I just read through this entire thread up until this point, and I was hoping someone would answer a question that was asked a few pages back that got swept under the rug of screen protectors. Has anyone successfully rooted the S7A? And if so would you mind posting a link to the method you used? I really want to get this phone, but only if I can root it. Thank you in advance for any leads anyone can dig up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
No root available yet. You'll most definitely see a thread with root instructions if and when it's available.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] nerdrock:
no.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Alega75:
Root S7 Active ?

Hi, I was looking on google I found 2 sites that offer methods to obtain root access for the Galaxy S7 Active.., I don't know these sites and don't trust to do the test, anyway these are the sites :

http://kidapso.com/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s7-active/

http://www.sadroid.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s7-active-5-minutes/
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] gqukyo:
I don't think any of them work and they look shady, most likely installing malware of some kind and probably say something like you AV will give false positive but "it's okay". For the adventurous, try them and report back with your results with screenshots. I'll wait till I see something on xda or another reputable forum.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] disturbd1:
Personally, I wouldn't ever trust a root method that didn't come from a reputable source. Regardless of its claims. There are really only a few experts in the niche of discovering root methods or unlocking the bootloader, on a per-manufacturer basis, and I wait to see what they come up with on XDA or the like.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] inneyeseakay:
Just got the August security update. (APH1)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] grover1:
Just received my second pushedition update from at&t in the week or so. I have had mine since day one release. Also after this update the right side of myour phone is really hot. It's never felt like this before, even with intensive app usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Alega75:
no firmware update outside USA :(

Hi, I can´t get the firmware updates... stuck in APE7... no way in Sammobile or Samsung-Updates there is no files for the S7 Active yet... If someone know a way please let me know.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] East89west:
Frp lock September?? S7 active un-rooted.

I purchased an s7 active on the cheap on ebay and have a 30 day return window (it was listed as locked and it seemed like a fun challenge to try to hack around it after I saw it was possible online).

I was reallllly hoping that it wasn't on the latest August update and that the RootJunky exploit would work, but whenever I try to run the APK it says "unfortunately frp bypass has stopped". I've tried several other methods with no luck.

Is there any hope of me getting into this phone within the next few weeks?

EDIT: I found a workaround that still works and bypasses the August update!!!!!!!!! I can't post the link because I'm new here, just get on YouTube and search for the user "vnROM Channel" video titled "Security patch level 9/2016 - Bypass google account for all SAMSUNG Devices"
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] br0adband:
If you read the post I made there at his blog you'd see rootjunky recommended to me to use the exploit for the Droid Turbo 2 (and use the files he's got posted at his site). And no, there is no current method to get past the August 2016 security patches that is posted anywhere, but... ;)

What you won't see posted there after that was my telling him it actually worked - with the August 1 2016 security patches. He decided not to allow my post to show up till he got around to doing more research himself. Now, I cannot guarantee it'll work for you or anyone else but here's the post I made if anyone wants to try it themselves - no guarantees, no promises, but I was able to bypass the Google FRP with the Aug 2016 security patches on my current Galaxy S7 Active so it might work for someone else.

Good luck either way... and yes you should watch the videos he made for the Droid Turbo 2 as well and here are the links, making sure to understand the 1st video did not help much but the 2nd video is the one with the method that did work for me personally with this GS7A I have. Note that in the steps I did with my GS7A I was never given the option to Encrypt the phone - that's where my methods are different from his in the 2nd video. I never saw an option to Encrypt because the Test DPC app crashed (utterly vanished) when I tried to make use of it - the second time I ran it things were different as noted below so pay attention. You may end up getting exactly the process he used in the 2nd video and that's fine, if it works it works, I'm just saying that in my case the Encrypt part never happened and Test DPC reset everything without that step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KoHa0UZugg (Part 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amim4sX-6G8 (Part 2)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] East89west:
See my comment update. I found a method that bypasses the August update quickly and easily!! Same method as root junky but with one extra file download that stops the FRP bypass apk from crashing at launch.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] txtofl:
If you boot to factory recovery (hold vol down + power + home) you can do factory reset that removes the updates. Be sure to backup everything on phone cause it will be gone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Rj42894:
What is needed to inspire people to attempt rooting this device? I'm not a developer, but I really miss root from my G3:(.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] jessy1979:
South was root successful and currently working?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Guides, News, & Discussio] Fduch1984:
Guys, I am using S7A not on AT&T network, so I don't have any OTA updates. Is there some website to download these updates manually and then sideload them by Odin?