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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dandarebr:
Hello all,

I´m looking to unlock my orange and I need some information just to be sure (Everyone is afraid on his first time :-) )

I have an Orange TYTN II with:

ROM: 1.81.61.2

Radio: 1.27.12.29

It came simlocked

I want to flash it with a new ROM and new radio. Also I will use it with a diferent carrier and diferent simcard.

The things I should know before flashing are:

1) No one have dumped yet the original Orange ROM, So I won´t be able to install it back after flashing

(Going to try to dump it using the method found here (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334680). I´ll post the results latter.

2) The same goes about the radio, but the above method of dumping roms doesn't work for radios.

3) There is a reconstruction Orange ROM here: It can be used if you need to return the phone but you'll have to find the radio Rom as well:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1586817&postcount=2

Since I want to unlock it to be used to other carrier I need to Sim-unlock it

Since I also want to flash it a new Rom I need to also CID-unlock it

So I did my homework and checked the forum in order to gather some information. Here is what I found so far:

I was having problems with activesync. So I went on the phone, START > SETTINGS > CONNECTIONS > USB to PC and unchecked the Advanced network funcionality before using the programs listed below

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1) First step is to install Hard-SPL from this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334679

OBS: You can also use the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer as on its first ste it gave you the option to install the Hard-SPL

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583

To CHECK if you installed Hard-SPL enter the BOOTLOADER byt Pressing and holding the camera button and pressing the soft reset button

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2) I have to unlock the phone using Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583

This program have the option to make the Phone SIM and CID Free

If I already have Hard-SPL I can start with step two

** I do not need to unplug and plug the USB cable while flashing ** (this is diferent from the direct Hard-SPL install).

After the phone reboots the radio should be: R1.70Olinex

2.1) I´ll have to run Step 3

The screen program will appear on the Kaiser. Since I have to unlock both SIM and CID I'll have to check both option when the SIM/CID unlocker screen appears on the Kaiser?

I'll have to leave the "00000000" (8 zeros) as the CID code

After this the phone will be unlocked and ready to accept new roms. I'll have to install a radio rom to replace the Rom that was installed to unlock it.

So see if the phone is SIM unlocked I just have to insert a diferent SIMcard, but how can I check if the Phone is CID unlocked??????

I can install a rom with a included radio like some of the duttythroy works

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Can someone tell me if the above steps are right? Just want to make sure before flashing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sambo1981:
original stock orange rom wanted

Does anyone know where to get one of these? Had no problems with Hardspl and then dutty's latest (or one of. Nice work btw - SIGNIFICANTLY faster).

Has anyone had any grief from orange for debranding?

this is plan B - plan A is get another unit and swipe the rom from that - I'll make sure I keep a copy in case anyone else asks this.

Apologies in advance if I failed to search properly or I am asking something naughty. Please link me rather than shouting "search" at me - i really did try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
i did the work for you !!!!

Here is the link that you need to follow:

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-340741.html

It has a rapidshare link for the reconstructed original orange tytnII rom.

I would like to welcome you to XDA as a poster but please bear in mind posting a thread WITHOUT searching is like waving a red flag in front of a bull... you are bound to get run over.

So read around; serach around; and learn from around here; there is alot of knowledge shared here by the community.

Happy Reading :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hirst89:
Orange UK? N00b needs help!

Well I've been reading these forums for hours on end now, I know how to flash the TYTNII/Kaiser with a new ROM. But would like to know which ROMs other orange users are using? and are happy with? preferably OS only ROMs, as i dont want to pay out to unlock my phone, as its pricey enough as it is.

Cheers,

Hirst
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
first of all if u hav been reading and KNOW how to flash .. than u should have "learned" that using tools from this website u can cid and sim unlock ur kaisef free of charge ... :D

secondly rom is dependant on ur choice and what u want in the rom. there r alot of roms u just need to try which one works better for u.

and since u read i am sure u remembered to flash hardspl onto ur device be4 u flash a rom ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Reading for hours but didn't read the 1st post.

Boo this man!

Check out the sticky!!! Has all you need.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
booooooooo ... lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hirst89:
I was asking for peoples personal opinions on which ROMs they use.

Thankyou for informing me of the free simunlock, as this is something i didn't spot before.

Cheers,

Hirst
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] debully:
I'm on Orange and like the dutty APR 16 (or somewhere near there!).

Has everything I need, works loads better than the shipped rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benktlottie:
I purchased an Orange branded Kaiser. I have tried at least 20 ROMS in the last 4-5 weeks and my favourite so far is this one: -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=389915

His V2 is also superb. Alex also does some excellent ROMs, but I prefer the battery life of Laurentius26's ROMs.

Good luck with your first flash! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mjed2006:
..as per my sig...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] timstephens11:
how did you get on? i've just got hold of an orange tytnii as an upgrade and was thinking about a Dutty rom.

The orange original is, as always, rubbish and older than time itself. If they didn't give me such good upgrades i would go t-mobile.

Tim
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AdrianMartin:
Best Rom for Switzerland Orange HTC Tytn 2

Hi,

I would like to know wich is the best RadioRom for Switzerland Orange on a HTC Tytn 2.

Here is the list of the Radio Rom:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
i don't live in switzerland so can't tell you which one ...

but i can give you an advice:

flash each one and see which one works best for you :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
I'm using the one in my sig, works very well in Lausanne ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AdrianMartin:
Has someone else idea?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lclark:
Please Help, Flashed my Orange TyTN II without HardSPL

Hello,

I recently decided that it was time to try a new ROM on my Orange Tytn II, I did a lot of reading on this forum and the wiki, i thought i was all set set.

I downloaded HardSPL, and teh recently released HTC WWE WM6.1 ROM.

However, at some point during the installation of hardSPL somthing went wrong there were no errors or anything, i thought that it was all set to go so i started the flash process.

After a few minutes I got Error (262) and after restarting the device my old ROM was wiped out. Problem is that i can not get any ROM to flash onto the device.

I have tried doing it via USB and microSD, but with any ROM exept for the one mentioned above It either hangs at 0% via USB and gives Error 262 or if via microSD it hangs on loading.

If i use the HTC one it gets passed loading, but says it's not allowed. the Same oen produces a similar error via USB. I can't find an official Orange ROM anywhere, and the reconstucted one i downloaded doesn't work either.

So i'm stuck, i can't sort hardSPL out unless i can flash a ROM to the device.

the information on the boot loader screen is:

RUUNBH

KAIS130

SPL-1.81.0000

CPLD-8

Serial

Any help would be greately appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
you have ruu errors i.e bad sector blocks which can be cleared by using a program called mtty. i won't tell u the cmds for it simply cuz u can do more damage than good if u don't know what u r doing.

plz use search to find program and usage procedure and only than proceed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lclark:
Thanks, i've managed to get it booting.

I still get the boot loader screen every time i tern on the phone tough
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lclark:
Excelent, I've got hardSPL working now.

The device seems to be working normally again :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gidsxda:
VISTA?

This happened to me and I think its because I was flashing from vista which uses different comm manger to XP or something and inturrupted.

I just manged to get it sorted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Vista shouldn't be the cause. I've been running Vista since I got the Tilt. I've only flashed from XP a handful of times. (Like when I'm stuck at work and just have to have a new ROM)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SiJ2000:
Am I to assume from this that your phone is still locked to Orange and you just did HardSPL and then a ROM?

I don't want to SIM Unlock. I want to just HardSPL and then put on a ROM?

Is this possible?

Thanks

Simon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Yes, see your/my other post answering this.

SIM unlock and Radio flashing are not the same.

ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=340396

this is just for orange. there are more threads about the orange phone, but haven't kept track on what was special about it. You gotta post on those threads. But Hardspl your phone should allow you to put a new rom on your phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Actually, this thread is for Orange. I've been merging all the Orange threads into this one with full details. Perhaps I'll add it to the FAQ :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ankka:
Lost sound

I "successfully" unlocked my orange tytn ii this morning. However I seem to have lost sound from app and phone. How can I get sound back? ta
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] solentseadog:
Radio 1.65.17.56 Bad Bluetooth Signal?

Hello,

FANTASTIC FORUM - SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE!

I bought a UK orange TyTn 2 with HTC branding (just orange back cover) running standard orange software. The phone was second hand.

I have spent many hours reading threads (brilliant and very helpful if quite hard to get my head around) and finally managed to sim unlock, CID unlock, and flash my ROM with the latest HTC version (I think?) 3.28.405.0 WWE. Thank you to all contributors for your excellent posts.

During the process the helpful instructions from fellow forum members said, amongst other things, I had to flash a new radio version, then flash my original radio version (1.27.14.32) back again at the end. I could not work out how to flash my original radio version back again.

I tried using the phone with my Uk Vodafone sim card for a couple of weeks with the 'new' radio version 1.65.17.56 and it is mostly OK BUT the bluetooth signal strength is VERY low and my earpiece (Plantronics) has real trouble staying connected unless it is within literally 15cm of the phone. I tried the same earpiece with my Vodafone 1615 using the same vodafone sim card (basically the same phone as far as I understand it?) and it works fine so I deduce that it must be a problem with my Orange TyTn 2 requiring it's original radio version?

basically I don't understand the relationship between radio version, rom version and service provider (sim card).

1. Should I reinstate the original radio version that was on the Orange phone when I bought it?

2. Will the original radio version (1.27.14.32) work OK with my new ROM version (3.28.405.0 WWE) and a Vodafone UK sim card?

3. How do I change the radio version (can't find a link on how to do this)?

4. Can I change the radio version without master resetting my phone and losing all my data?

If you can help me i would be very grateful - thank you!

:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mark Crouch:
Welcome to XDA - looks like you've done some research before jumping in with both feet and screwing your phone up :D

OK, to answer your questions....

NO! The ROM you have installed is a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM and the old radio was for 6.0 - it's almost certain to mess things up; most 6.1 ROM's have a minimum radio version that they need in order to work.

Hell no!! (See above)

Look at the "Ultimate Radio Thread" (stickied at the top of the Kaiser ROM development forum and linked to here). Your ROM version - HTC WWE 3.28.405.0 is mentioned in post #3, together with a whole bunch of compatible radio ROMs. Start with the latest one listed (newest = best....well, usually it does!!) and see how you get on. Each will yield different results as far as signal strength, echo in call, battery life etc., so you may need to leave it on for a couple of days to get a feel for how well it's performing (though of course, if your BT headset is not working well, it probably doesn't matter how long the battery lasts!!!). Keep trying various radios until you find one that's the best for your needs.

Yes!!! You can flash radios for a pastime without fear of trashing your data - the procedure for flashing a radio is the same as for flashing a full ROM, but it takes a matter of seconds rather than minutes.

Keep on with the reading; the XDA wiki (for the Kaiser) is a great resource for finding answers to all the common questions and quite a lot of the more obscure ones too!

Good luck - and enjoy!

Mark.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jondendy:
You can now download a 6.1 ROM from Orange

Hi everyone, just wanted to add to this important thread.

Last night I tried to follow the sim-unlocker post - must have messed up something because I locked my phone to all networks then found that the radio version I had had was not available for download.

Much searching and I found this page that left me with an updated ROM Win Mob. v6.1 and radio 1.65.16.25 - phew. Finally at 0200 I was able to go to bed and sleep peacefully.

I'm gonna have another go though.

P.S. I like to make sure I keep all my CABs and copys of my PC's Sync folder in a backup folder on my sd card. Plus I try to install as much as poss. on the Storage card. It is _vital_ in that case that you take your card out before running this software as it says will completely clear all the storage. Did that before with my XDAii, ouch.

JonD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silent_killa:
Unless a carrier releases a ROM that can re-lock your SIM, then thats correct.

Haven't ever seen a ROM release that can do that so you should be safe.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] forza:
I haven't flashed my new Kaiser from Orange UK (yet!) and the IMEI number shown in Device Information also has an '01' at the end which the sticker on the box and under the battery does not have. Therefore I do not think that flashing a different radio and ROM affects the IMEI on the device.

To be clear to anyone reading this - it is the flashing of a different RADIO rom that appears to cause the problem, an OS only flash seems to be fine.

IMEI code entered where?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] UKTamo:
I've flashed mine : )

Just make sure you flash the OS only. you'll be left with a orange splash screen...that's it! If you need a hand IM me...

Such a difference from the orange rom!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigchemist:
silent_killa got it right... flashing the radio on your Orange UK TYTN II will cause the simlock to reject any sim..even Orange one.

Now, asfter I had the simlock... I paid to get it unlocked..and since then I flashed the phone 3 times in one day! lool a bit crazy..but im trying to figure out the best ones...

So far Dutty's latest is absolutely great.. fasst.. long battery . the two little imperfections so far are the russian writing in the 'To' and 'Subject' lines in SMS.. which do not bother me at all.. its wither that I downloded the ROM before he put the fix, or the mirror file i got still had the old ROM on it.

One thing..which I am still unsure about is the following:

After unlocking the device @ 2345 5/Nov/07 I Had the Dopod ROM that was posted on the forum... it seemed to be a far asia ROM as far as i could tell... The one thing I noticed was the Super fast download rate.. I was straming from audio from a site and SPB GPRS Monitor was showing download rate of 450Kb.s! I was Stunned! Now..scene No2: @ 22:30 06/Nov/07 Flashed with Duttys ROM.. tried the same site.. the Max it would go to was 140KB.s.

Will keep an eye on that and let you know

I know that there are alot of factors that could affect the download speed.. but i still reserve my opinion about that point until i test them both in the same night
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bigchemist:
Sorry about the confusion...

IMEI Code = The code generated from IMEI to unlock the sim.. its the code i paid £25 to get!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crystal_clear:
orange tytn ii unlocking etc

so we have now established that once unlocked it cant relock and cause problems....

however, can someone help me out with an unlocking tool to unlock it...

then some pointers on the next stages in the process - end result being to get a phone back from an orange rom state!

will be putting htc's shipping rom on it, unless someone can offer another better solution to use...

open to offers, need good instructions and links please

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Right, my Orange Kaiser is now ordered and will be arriving Friday. I'm now trying to ensure that I know exactly what I'm doing before I risk bricking my brand new piece of kit. These are the steps as I understand them, please correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Get my phone unlocked to any network.

2. Backup my Orange ROM in case I need to send it back for any reason.

3. Download Duttys ROM, what is the difference between this and the standard HTC ROM?

4. Flash my OS ROM (NOT the radio one) with Duttys ROM (Could anyone give me a link to the software I use to do this?)

5. Enjoy my Orange free phone.

Any links to the threads where the relevant guides can be found would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Ben
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chrisnash:
I've got an HTC brandednTyTN II with an Orange SIM. The generic Radio with it is awful on the Orange network. Do you think its worth upgrading the radio to theOrange shipped one?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edgley:
When I asked I was told there wasnt any real differance between the orange and htc rom.

I am still using the orange one and cannt see anything wrong with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crystal_clear:
roms....

so what i need now is a rom, that leaves the radio well alone, links please.......

but not ones that alter the radio side of things.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Behold:
I have an Orange UK Kaiser and i too hate the Orange Branding.

I am slowly removing all traces of the orange branding.

At present I have done

HTC Default Theme

Windows Live install

HTC Sim Manager to the Latest

Schen Kaiser 3G dialer for the black dialer (Best i have found so far)

HTC Home

and the JUVS HTC Album from the touch

The only bits still orane are a few icons they made more orange in colour. Assessories and Address book (Only ever seen in the program menu)

and the start up screen. Ooooh and the back cover.

I find the rom is stable and no running issues.

I have also added the KTweeks and black keyboard to me device to alter the device further. all thats left now is the calculator.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Could you please post links to where you got these from behold? Have you not flashed the ROM at all then?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dbkid:
Hi All,

please excuse my ignorance about all this....I myself have been duped into buying an Orange version of the HTC TyTn II.....sans TOMTOM, MSN & Home Screen.... :(

I didn't even know it was any different until i got it home!

But I do love this phone so far, and has ALL the right features.....

However, I'm just a bit wary of rom cooking my brand new deviceto make it like the original....especially since this all invalidates the warranty!

Can anyway pls humour us poor Orange HTC TyTn II users and explain in full detail how to do it....step by step?

Thanks in advance....or maybe there's a link on here that someone can point me to?

Btw: I had a go at an Orange Customer services guy about the branding and software hacking they do - taking away the soul of the machine they're selling......he was very apologetic, but said maybe I should just go to Offcom and complain about it as that's all one can advise. Criminal! haha

Why should branded phones be any different to the reviewed and original HTC versions? All it does is make for a lesser phone....in my humble opinion....am i wrong?

Just seems a bit rushed in time for the iPhone release date.

The HTC TyTnII is the iPhone killer, but not with crappy networks ruining it's software for everyone....

Peace dBkid:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Wow! I'm really impressed, the people at www.imei-check.co.uk REALLY did unlock my phone in about 10 minutes! I was really dubious about whether it was legit or not, especially as they asked me to email them a copy of my driving licence or other id to prove my pay pal account was legit. I will let you know if I get frauded but so far so good.

Anyway, now that I have unlocked my Orange Kaiser to any network does that mean that I can install other ROMs, including the radio ROM without bricking/sim locking my phone, or is this still a big no no on Orange?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silent_killa:
You can flash any ROM now which includes a radio. Ensure you read the wiki first and put hardspl on before you flash anything else.

Other users with a simlocked Orange handset (like me), can still flash OS only.

To be honest, there is no radio with any significant improvements than what we have yet.

Hang in there people, a workaround/sim unlock tool will eventually surface. Just be careful what you flash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benl2k:
Cheers Silent Killa, I will give it a go tomorrow. First though I want to back up the Orange ROM so I can go back to it if needs be. I've read a few posts on this but couldn't see anything that told me how to do it. Can tools such as spb and sprite be used for this or do they only back up the data?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] svssolutions:
Orange TYTN II ROM Changing

Hi,

I have just taken delivery of a New TYTN II from Orange UK due to the first one being sim locked by me and trying to flash the rom. I want to get rid of the orange stuff and use the HTC generic one but I want to make sure that I dont screw this one up.

what do I need to do?

do I need to dump the rom first in case of any screw ups or am I supposed to just change the OS file and leave the radio etc alone? if so how to I do this?

I have got the HTC rom that I want to put on the device I just need to know how I am meant to do this.

Thanks