yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Fair point about pointing out about the brickable and dangerous su swapping methods with supersu me etc.

I will add a mention about it after the line that reads:

'Its suggested all over to hold off before doing anything that could brick the device until rbox releases a recovery.'

As for not recommended to auto update while rooted, ive had 2 sticks and a Fire Tv 2 auto update from 5.0.5 to 5.0.5.1 and then to 5.2.1.0 when my router was reset, (im sure im not the only one from what ive read either).

But since im a helping type of guy ill add this also.
[Fire TV Android Development] deanr1977:
Ok mate, just going by what's been said from the AFTVNews & Amazon Firestick forums. Glad you are including this thanks, Its just some only skim through the threads & read only the parts they want to so if this is included it may cut down on the "I've bricked my Amazon device please help threads" which clog up the forum.
[Fire TV Android Development] sins07:
i'm trying to downgrade to the point where display mirroring worked on windows devices, this is before 5.0.5, can i use this method to downgrade to another bin before 5.0.5?
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Id take a stab and say if your stick originally came with a firmware below 5.0.5 but I honestly do not know as ive not tried but I cant see why it wouldnt work. You can go from 5.2.1.0 to 5.0.5.1 or to 5.0.5 so id imagine so.

What features have been removed by 5.0.5? Im interested myself and may try this myself if there is features I could use.
[Fire TV Android Development] vulcan4d:
Amazing! I can't believe this was hard to find as all the news out there say you can only root the stick using a hardware mod.

I downgraded and rooted both my Sticks. Installed Firestarter 3.2.3, installed Seeder, removed unneeded processes from running and these things are super quick now. You still have to load the crappy slow Amazon launcher to keep the settings but oh well. Nicely done, now I hope a recovery option comes out and I can mess around further ;). Heatsink and overclocking anyone? lol
[Fire TV Android Development] deanr1977:
[MENTION=3850978]vulcan4d[/MENTION] recovery & prerooted rom is being worked on at the moment by rbox in this forum
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Can I ask what processes you removed/stopped and how you accomplished this?

Id like to do the same on 2 of my sticks.
[Fire TV Android Development] vulcan4d:
I would like to give credit to this post for removing unneeded services:

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/help/root-disabling-apps-services-bloat-t3325333

I only found a few from the list but that list was meant for a Fire TV so I'm sure there is more running. Just launch ADB Shell in ADBFire/Link and type pm disable <service_name>
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Thanks ive disabled them as per the guide you linked to. Can I further ask what the program seeder does and whether to have it set to aggressive or not?

Thanks for the info.
[Fire TV Android Development] nicefile:
[MENTION=4196591]sconnyuk[/MENTION] i've downgraded successfully kingo root'ed stick 5.2.1->5.0.5 . But funny thing was under root shell command "wipe data " .It wiped device clean but root still stays on . Got OTA disabled and my other king root 5.0.5 stick will have similar treatment .
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
You will need to unroot it for root to go.

Kingoroot has the option to do this if its what you want.

You need mouse toggle for fire tv to navigate to the 'in app' menu icon if not plug fire stick into pc and run Windows version of Kingoroot to unroot.
[Fire TV Android Development] vulcan4d:
Interesting, I just bought a 3rd Amazon stick to root. After running KingRoot, I've noticed I did not need to install KingUser at all. If you launch KingRoot again it allows you to launch KingoUser which is the same thing. I'm assuming that KingUser is just an updated version of what KingRoot already installs.

Sconnyuk, I checked all the boxes and chose Moderate. This was also mentioned in the XDA forums however sadly I cannot find the post anymore. Seeder is an application that has been around for a while which improves the response time on Android devices. There is a lot of technical details into how it works, but the point is the Amazon stick is not the fastest thing in the world and anything helps. Give it a try and see for yourself.
[Fire TV Android Development] sins07:
Miracast display mirroring became non-compliant with windows systems, it still works fine with android.
[Fire TV Android Development] lafester:
Nice guide, just tried it out and am successfully rooted and downgraded to 5.0.5. I was thrown off in the rooting section as I had not heard of kingoroot and misread as kingroot.

Perhaps a link to the kingoroot .apk and/or a link to the aftv news kingo root guide would help in that regard. Also I did not need to install superuser .apk, kingoroot installed it for me.
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Glad it worked for you.

I will update the guide later today.
[Fire TV Android Development] FunThomas76:
i bought a fire tv stick (AFTM Model No W87CUN) + voice remote yesterday (it updated in the startup to 5.2.1.0), but was trying to root it but i always get at 10% unknown network error -> aftv has full access to internet

i have an old stick, aftv1 &2 all rooted without problems but this one is hard :(

i have tried to install kingo root apk with adblink and run it but always getting the "unknown network error" at 10%

i have installed the pc version and connected the usb-power cable of the stick to my usb3 port and started the process but it it takes very long time (15 min) to get the percentage up and in the end always it fails without a reason :(

does anyone here have some hints what i could try ?

thanx in advance
[Fire TV Android Development] f1ux:
Exact same issue here without voice remote
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
keep on hitting the centre button on the fire stick remote, i just tried it myself on a brand new stick and got same error first couple of times, repeatedly hitting the centre button worked.
[Fire TV Android Development] f1ux:
You're right, it worked eventually! Maybe their server is getting hammered after prime day!
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
probably, i was a little worried at first as i promised 2 friends id sort there prime day fire sticks out ! :)
[Fire TV Android Development] FunThomas76:
thanx for the hint it worked real nice and took about 3 minutes -> tried about 3 hours yesterday all the ways :)

so maybe their server was down ;)

so if i understand this thread the most important reason for downgrading to 5.0.5 is getting the firestarter back

-> is there no way to disable the amazon app check service which prevents firestarter from running and install it trough adb afterwards?

or is it possible to rename firestopper and then install with a new coustom app name ?

edit: i tried to build the commit ea7265e of AppStarter but the home button observation doesnt works anymore, not through adb or normal on 5.2.1.0 :(
[Fire TV Android Development] Texanpal:
AFTV

Does this work on Amazon Fire TV box?
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
if fire tv box is on latest 5.1.2.0 then no.
[Fire TV Android Development] Superhero123:
Can anyone help me please?

I am rooted on 5.2.1.0. I uploaded 5.0.5 firmware file

via es file explorer and dropbox I copied to sdcard.

However when I use shell (adb fire) and reboot recovery

I get the picture of firestick and two words "No command"

What am I doing wrong. Thank you
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Ive never had that myself, just make sure your typing the commands correctly, try copying and pasting them to make sure there right.
[Fire TV Android Development] nikec:
Has anyone the full firmware 5.2.0.1 bin file? I cannot seem to find it anywhere...
[Fire TV Android Development] Superhero123:
It worked !!! I followed your advice and it worked like magic.

Thank you very much for the guide and for your response.
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Your welcome.

Dont be shy to give me a thumbs up if ive helped in any way ;)
[Fire TV Android Development] SilverZero:
Does anybody know if 5.2.1.1 can be downgraded to 5.2.1.0 via adb sideload? Where might I find the 5.2.1.0 firmware?
[Fire TV Android Development] @Bill_Dollar:
You need to have root access to load the .bin into the proper directory to get the firestick to flash a previous version. Waiting on a new exploit if the firestick is updated past 5.2.1.0.
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
There is no way 5.2.1.1 can be rooted at the moment.

There is a new kingoroot v3.3 but ive tried it and still womt work.
[Fire TV Android Development] btb55:
Thanks for the guide, my fs was rooted on v5.2.1.0 and now on rooted 5.05. Next step will be to replace kingoROOT wirh SuperSu
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Your welcome, hope my other kingo-supersu guide goes OK for you, just make sure to fully read everything before starting.

Might aswell go for the full shabang and use my other guide aswell, xposed on fire stick.... If you could use it (ad blocking etc).
[Fire TV Android Development] btb55:
I need a break now, heart rate was too high removing kingoroot and need to calm down hahaha. But, I will look at putting xposed another day :)

Thank you for the doing the guides.
[Fire TV Android Development] joshw0000:
I just used this guide to restore a Fire Stick I soft bricked a month or so ago. Just connect to your pc with a micro sd cord and install the proper drivers. Give it 10 mins or so after typing "reboot recovery" and plug it back to your tv. It booted fully and now it's updating again.

Thanks for putting this together!
[Fire TV Android Development] freshjr:
Im currently on 5.0.5.

If I follow your steps to "install" the 5.0.5 update again does it reset the fire stick to factory defaults?

My firestick is running weird and I want a fresh start.

If not, how do I restore it to the factory image? I have updates disabled.
[Fire TV Android Development] Mcmonkfish:
Hi, I'm also here because I played around with the kingroot/supersu and bricked a firestick.

I've successfuly re rooted through pc and pushed the update.bin to the sd folder.

When I get to the mv ./ update.bin / cache/ command, I get permission denied.

Any ideas?
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Installing this 5.0.5 update.bin will restore any messed up system files to what they should be.

It will not delete your data.

If you want a just out of the box fire stick id do the following order....

Firstly plug fire stick into a laptop or similar for power (500ma) as fire stick shouldnt update after a restore because it says there isnt enough power.

Root if not already, follow guide to install 5.0.5, re root, restore stock from within Fire OS settings, re root. Done.
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Are you able to boot the fire stick up into Fire OS?

Are you running commands as root?
[Fire TV Android Development] freshjr:
Scared to restore in settings so it doesn't update to nonrootable firmware.

I remember on intial setup it downloaded the latest firmware
[Fire TV Android Development] Mcmonkfish:
No mate it's stuck on the fire stick logo.

I'm a complete novice so be gentle lol.

I thought entering the command su as in step 1 gave me root access?
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
Assuming you Root correctly with Windows version of Kingo root, on a laptop or pc connect with adb and when you get

shell@montoya $

type in su, you should see

root@montoya #

Is this what you see?
[Fire TV Android Development] sconnyuk:
It wont update on initial setup if your plugged into a laptop for power, ive done it loads of times. It will download the update in the background and if left alone will install it but not straight away.

As soon as you restore and it boots up after you set it up it eill breifly show checking for updates and complain about lack of power, when you get into the home screen root it then block updates.
[Fire TV Android Development] Mcmonkfish:
Working away tonight so can't get to pc. Can't be sure, but I don't think it read root@montoya though.

I'll check again tomorrow and try rooting again if I don't see it.

Thanks for your patience lol.
[Fire TV Android Development] Mcmonkfish:
No idea why but even after successful root I couldn't get access.

Repeated several times and eventually it worked.

Perseverance was the key!

Thanks for your help
[Fire TV Android Development] Mcmonkfish:
Unfortunately after update I can't get the stick to reroot using kingoroot.

I've tried several times using the app and PC method but no luck.

I found a thread on another forum and it seems it's a common problem.

Would you recommend I try using kingroot?
[Fire TV Android Development] Seattleweather:
I did not know we can root Fire Stick 1 till today. Can we downgrade the firmware from current 5.2.1.1 rev?
[Fire TV Android Development] aaddaamm1111:
Has anyone tried this with the new oct 20th second gen firestick?
[Fire TV Android Development] ermacwins:
So no way to root 5.2.1.1?
[Fire TV Android Development] santamanga:
To write the older update.bin to /cache we need root first. We don't have root since 5.2.0 on the stick.
[Fire TV Android Development] samiej927:
Fire OS 5.2.6.3 root?

i'm on fire os 5.2.6.3 and was wondering if there was a way to root it or downgrade so i can root?
[Fire TV Android Development] skyrocketeer:
Don't think so man. I was gifted a firestick 1 and it's on 5.2.6.8 haha. so slow and laggy..
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] raptir:
So I see that the OnePlus 3 is listed as supporting Band 12 LTE and it looks like the OnePlus 2 did as well (this would be my first OP device). From what I saw though, the OP2 did not support VOLTE on T-Mobile at launch. How did Band 12 support work then, since I believe T-Mobile requires devices to support VOLTE to use Band 12? And does the OP3 support both?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] tridogg97:
Yes it does support both
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Smudgeous:
Since the Oneplus 3 is an unlocked phone and T-Mobile is one of several carriers that uses Band 12, they can't force Oneplus to disable/remove Band 12 from the phone, so Band 12 will be supported.

Additionally, per the recent AMA thread from Oneplus, the phone is capable of voLTE.

However, what T-Mobile CAN (and almost certainly will) do is prevent the Oneplus Three from being registered as a supported voLTE device on their network until Oneplus completes their costly/time-consuming voLTE certification.

What this basically means is that until OnePlus jumps through T-Mobile's certification hoops, we'll be able to use Band 12 for data, but as soon as we make/receive a call, we'll be kicked down to H or H+ (assuming we have the coverage).
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] raptir:
While I understand that they can't force it, the US models of the Nexus 5x and Moto X Pure launched with Band 12 disabled and only received it in a later update.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Smudgeous:
The Oneplus 2 was reported to have worked on Band 12 the way I previously mentioned more than a month before the Nexus 5X's release date, and Oneplus still lists Band 12 support for the North American Oneplus 3 on their website.

T-Mobile was also happy to sell you the T-Mobile version of the 5X which was certified for band 12.

Additionally, Band 12 is not as much of a T-Mobile monopoly as it was last year. AT&T just started transitioning to Band 12 last fall, announcing in their status update report to the FCC early last October “many of our devices have been sold with Band 12 filters and can be upgraded via software to support Band 12. We will begin the process of transitioning to Band 12 late in 2015 and / or early 2016.”

All things considered, it would make no sense for Oneplus to disable Band 12 this year.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dtmcnamara:
Ok so I have a 8925. Love it, but don't want all the AT&T on it so I figured I would flash it....well I ran into the problem where none of the flashing software I have found will work with Linux. I am running Ubuntu and cannot get any of the flashers to work. Also I have STILL having a hard time connecting my 8925 to my computer because of the Ubuntu OS.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also is the 8925 info in the Hermes sub-category? or the Herald? I have seen info in both and was a little confused. Sorry if this is the wrong section.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cuboosh:
go to Kaiser forum for 8925
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ach2:
Ok so you're new AND you've got better phone than me - I'm incredibly jealous so please go away :D :D - here is probably the best place to go to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser.

Oh yes, welcome to the forum and enjoy :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dtmcnamara:
thanks. the only reason I have a better phone is because my mom got it....lol im 22 and in college and needed a new phone (since my 8525 got ran over by a car) so I told my mom she would LOVE this one, the 8925. She bought it and couldnt figure out how the hell to do anything with it so I traded he my older RAZR for the 8925....lol

Thanks and love you mom....lol
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Acuum2:
You've probably gone to the right forum now, but if by any chance you read this. you should google for flashing from SD card.

this should help you to get round the issues of the flashing software being written for M$ Windows.

all you basicly do is extract the rom/radio image from the executable put it on the root of your SD card with a file name and boot your phone into bootloader mode (IIRC)

no need to use the PC so should resolve your issues.

(wow well done not getting flammed for that post btw... this isn't the friendliest forum in the world!)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Acuum2:
BTW also... well done on that phone swap trick... my dad is often good for that kinda fun and games :)
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
so, I go on vacation and put my phone in airplane mode since I'm out of the states. I'm backpacking in Aruba and place my phone in my backpack (contents: clothes, towel, water bottle, food) I took pictures from spot to spot. well I go to take my phone out and it is burning up. I mean super hot. Phone would not wake up/turn on. I was bummed.

Had the phone activated and was using it for a total of 5 days, then placed it in airplane mode when I left the states on the 4th. The 5th is when this saddening event took place. I finally got back into the states and got home on the 13th. I pulled my sim and activated my good ol m8. I noticed the backside of my sim card had brown spots on it. Looked like it was burnt or rust. It wiped off leaving faint spots. Sim card is working in the m8.

Has anyone had any issues and had to have their phone repaired? Apparently HTC says this is covered under warranty...and that if there is any other damage than what I described they will use the uhoh warranty.

I have tried every button combo, plugged in and everything day after day hoping it would turn back on. I do not even get a notification light when plugged in. The PC also doesn't recognize the device.

tldr: phone got super hot and wouldn't cut on. I have to send in for repair :(

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] holz75:
If it's been under 30 days, I'd return it as faulty and get another new one. Take advantage of the option to return it!
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] ekksman:
Did you try holding down the volume up and power button
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
I've tried everything. Every possible button combo for at least 10 seconds.

It definitely hasn't been 30 days, and I mentioned to return it, and they kept saying that since it was activated and in use, that they will issue a repair ticket. So that was my only option they gave me. I did call back and get another CSR, but they both asked has it been used and or activated. I didn't want to lie lol

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] jollywhitefoot:
let the phone cool off and hold power button and vol down for at least a minute
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] andybones:
Delete
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
lol the phone has been dead for over a week. It has been cooled down enough. Nothing works. No charging led when plugged up (have let it sit overnight) nothing

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] jollywhitefoot:
lol. ok. I just saw 10 seconds and know that's not always long enough to turn the phone on or turn it off and then back on if it gets stuck in a state where the screen is off.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
Unfortunately I held it down a long time and nothing happens. Its finally sent off to be repaired. took them 3 days and 5 phone calls to get a shipping label generated...I've never had any troubles with HTC until now lol

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] holz75:
Well, you're certainly able to return it within 30 days even if it's been used because I'm going on my 3rd unit trying to get one without the dreaded yellow tint at the bottom of the screen. It can all be done from the ordering email you receive... that is if you ordered it direct from HTC. I just request a refund and re-order a new one, no questions asked!
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
If the battery is dead and nothing happens when you plug it in with original power and cable then there is nothing to be done.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] jonathan3579:
They don't do that. I tried when I was having issues with my device. Their answer was if I wanted a brand new device, I'd have to return and repurchase. ? (And lose out on my coupon and potentially lose my 12 mos financing with PayPal.)
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] holz75:
Yeah, that's what I meant. :good: Return and repurchase.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
so I finally heard back from HTC on the 22nd. They said my phone was exposed to liquid....ok I thought maybe the water bottle may have leaked...but here was no sign of it that day. Anyways, I opted to use my UH-OH protection to get a new/replacement device. They processed that and told me I would be contacted in 24 hours. That was not true

Have called/online chatted each day trying to get a status of my phone. Finally got someone today who told me the exact thing. "the uh oh department is waiting on a replacement device for you. You will be contacted by the escalation team within 24 hours"

So yea I'm a little frustrated with HTC at the moment. Never had any problems with them until now.

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
I just did a separate chat and acted as someone who was very interested in purchasing the HTC 10. Asked all easy questions and then asked for shipping. They said if I was to purchase today, I'd revive the phone next business day.

I'm on the edge about calling back and complaining some more about them able to send out phones if they are purchased, but yet tell me hey are waiting on a device.

sorry, rant over lol

-HTC One m8-
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] datafoo:
Side note UhOh protection will only ship to your credit card billing address for advanced replacement.

A person can ship theirs in and have a replacement sent to whatever address you want but it requires them receiving the old unit before shipping the new unit.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] holz75:
Well, your replacement phone will probably be coming from a different stock of phones. Even it happens to be a new device rather than a refurb, you won't be getting the retail box or anything. It'll just be the replacement phone by itself.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] JWhetstone02:
HTC has had my phone since the 14th or 16th. I just want an HTC 10 back. Having it for the few days has spoiled me. Although this m8 is still a beast, I'm just wanting the best of the best.

-HTC One m8-