yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hey Aspirina,

Most or almost all the custom ROMs including my ROMs have no IPL or SPL in it. So when you upgrade to these ROMs, your IPL and SPL is still the original one, no change.

As for the warranty issue, if you can install the backup, it is as good as the official one. If your IPL and SPL remained the same, there shouldn't be any version mismatch.

To check your IPL and SPL, you have to do it the hard way by putting it in bootloader mode (tri-color screen). IPL and SPL will show on the screen. Do a soft reset after and it should back to normal.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
Thanks a lot!!!

lol,

IPL 2.20.0002

SPL 2.20.0000
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Okay BatteryStatus 1.04 Build 243 cab is attached. Try it and let me have your comments.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Ya, I too find TOuch keyboard not useful. Touch keyboard is sort of like phonepad and is ok. Maybe I remove the TOUch keyboard and put a separate cab.

Attached the Batterystatus 1.04 Build 243 in the post before this. You want try it and give me your verdict or this is just a fig of my imagination,,,haha:D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
just found out that there's a new build 253, will give that a try for a few hours or a day and if the leak still occurs will give this a shot and report my findings. Thanks once again, bro
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cybertech:
Still unable to download from Rapidshare since trying yesterday,

keep telling me my IP downloading already. The other link show

me will take 13 hrs to complete the download.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Kajitsu:
swiftblade i am using b249 of bs. according to my observation, its significantly less leaky. imo the other versions tend to leak more.. since its beta stuff guess we can't expect too much.. gotta wait till it reaches shareware stage as chi-tai says it will eventually be. i would suggest not using the software as yet until these issues are resolved :) another alternative may be to use the non beta version.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Strange... (scratch head??). Just try the the link and downloaded the rom in 1.58 mins... When showing 13 hours, try cancelling and re-downloading again.. HOpe it works for you.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
Thanks swiftblade. Installed...will report my findings.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] falgun:
dude this ROM is awesome well almost awesome i have only one thing maybe there is a easy solution:

I asked before but i searched i did not see the answer, but is there a way to change the ACTION SCREEN link on the today page at the bottom right back to a CONTACTS link.

then after i get that done it will be AWESOME ROM :)

Also what is this PAGEPOOL thing, what benefits is there for keeping it at 4mb, 6mb, 8mb? Is reason to keep it small just to gain more space on the unit? Cause if it is is it not redundant as most people have huge 1 GB plus memory storage cards??? Just wondering I am not to knowlegable on techno lingo but am trying. Thanks all i advance and thanxs switchblade for a better rom then the original.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hi kajitsu.. thanks for the information. BTW are you using BS and what your experience?

Edited: Sorry, you have already said using build 249... me bad. Ignore my question...Cheers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
Falgun - Use AdvancedConfig (included in the ROM) to change the softkey assignment.

Pagepool is like swap space on your Windows PC. Smaller pagepool gives you more RAM for running applications. I have tried 4, 6 and 8 MB pagepools and in my opinion 6 MB works the best. With 4 MB, at times my applications would close down, if I had many open at the same time.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] falgun:
wow that was a wuick fix MAN thanxs for your help, i guess i am boneheaded and did not look in the right places. I thank you sir for your help, and now if anyone knows the pagepool question i asked we be golden.

by the way NOW IT IS AN AWESOME ROM :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Kajitsu:
yes i've been following the beta versions of battery status and i would say i would just rather use omap scaler and wait till the beta versions have their memory issues fixed.. there is a cpu usage of 4-5% lol add to the inherent leaks in wm6 i lose 1.6mb after 3 days. (after ram reclaimation efforts lol) so in about 7-8 days i gotta to do a reset.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Thanks for the information.. :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
Pagepool

Hey, how do I check my pagepool size? I 'apparently' changed it to 6MB on my Touch but how can I be sure?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Check your program memory:

47.92 Mb -->8 Mb Pagepool

49.92 Mb-->6 Mb Pagepool

51.92 Mb--> 4 Mb Pagepool
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
Thanks again! Mine is 49.91 MB. So I guess I am on 6MB pagepool.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Cyriakus:
thx for the link

~1300kb/s @rapid

;-)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] akagi07@hotmail.com:
ok thanks for the info.

will try tt out. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] faisals:
Hi.

I just tried to flash my HTC with new dopod rom and it displays an error message " 294 - invalid vendor ID".

I am using rom 1.11.405.1B WWE.

Kindly help.

Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
Nice ROM!!!

Question, isthere much difference between SPL 1.11 and the SPL 2.20? Should I leave it like that or USPL again? Just in case ;)

Thanks!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
You need to USPL first, read the first thread in this forum ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
Heavy RAM Payload Touch Keyboard/Keypad

Don't know if this was mentioned before, but just found out that the Touch Keyboard/Keypad takes up a fair bit of RAM.

Without anything in the background, switched SIPs and found that my RAM dropped from 17.7MB immediately to 15.7MB. Soft-reset and tried again, and lo and behold another drop of between 1.8-2mb of RAM (the added advantage of having RAM Guages on your top bar, thanks to indibar). This memory space is not recoverable.

My Good Lord HTC, what were you thinking? Maybe its really more for the Nike and Kaiser, and all other 128mb RAMmed PPCs. Now more than ever, i'll be disabling this SIP.

Touchpal SIP doesn't take up an ounce more RAM than Keyboard, so there's hope yet :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
Hi Swiftblade :)

Nice ROM, tried it tonight!

There seems to be a problem with the spanish dictionary (mui's?) for the HTC Keyboard, the text prediction doesen't work, all it gives you is gibberish. Probably the dict is empty or something like that.

Cheers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mingean:
radio version? on htc touch....

the touch does not have a radio.

errr so, what does the radio rom do?

thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
You should leave it at SPL 2.20 so you can flash back your official rom for warranty issue.

Haha.. this is because I have removed the Spanish xT9 dictionary from the rom. Just copy the attached file to the Windows directory, do a soft reset and you should get your spanish dictionary back on.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Umm... this touch keyboard/keypad seems to be just ported from Touch dual (Nike) with a higher ram. It is more compelling now to remove touch keyboard in my next rom. I am working with a new core build to see whether to get it move even faster..:D

And thescum, confirmed batterystatus is the culprit casuing the memory leak beside the inherent WM6 one. Uninstall BS and after 12 hours the porgram memory is still around 23Mb+
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
mingean, the radio in the rom is referring to the GSM radio for your phone connection. No error there.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] jychan28:
Thank you for this great ROM!

I am also very happy that I can restore most applications from my old PDAViet backup file without too much problem.:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] faisals:
Hi Guys,

Very nice rom. Just flashed it today and playing. My question: How can I reflash the dopod rom, just in case. Thanks again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tohxda:
hi,

Very nice ROM, now I have a qusetion about sending a photo/video via Bluetooth.

My previous ROM (1.11.707.1B) was able to did it but not this ROM?

Any setting or solution? thanks in advance.

Blue Touch ROM Version 1.21

ROM: 2.20.707.1B WWE Blue

IPL 1.11.0000 SPL 1.11.0002

Pagepool: 4Mb

Radio: 03.97.90

microSD 1GB
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
Thanks bro, might revert to omapclock with the manual insertion notifications for overclocking. :)

Hi there, have no problems BT activesyncing or transferring files to and from the touch with this rom. Its probably a setting issue.

Would you like to ensure the following are done:

\Settings\Connections\Beam

"Receive all incoming beams" is CHECKED

\Settings\Connections\Bluetooth\FTP

"Enable File Sharing" is CHECKED

\Settings\Connections\Security

"Authentication (Passkey) required is UNCHEKED

Hope this helps
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tohxda:
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Hi thescum,

Thanks for your reply, with the setting you've advice now I'm able to receive files sent from other via Bluetooth but still not possible to send files via Bluetooth?

I do remember in my prev's ROM- it had the selection of Send To\Send via Bluetooth.. but now it only have send via IR.. option. Any idea?

Thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] akagi07@hotmail.com:
hi swiftblade..

thanks, i got the hhc customizer on the way.. nicer now haha

but yes someone mentioned.. the touch keypad and keyboard.. both are responsing slower then a T9 keypad tt I used.

is tt just me or someone else too experience that.

1 more thing abt the radio cab, its gsm radio meaning installed it can play radio for free-to-air channel already?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
No, No... the radio is referring to the GSM receiver software used for receiving your phone GSM signal not free-to-air radio channel. Touch had no radio in it.

Touch keyobard/keypad is slower for sure. Throw that out in my next rom update and let user choose their own keyboard.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] SuckaB:
hi swift, thanks for the effort...however, after a whole night's tweaking, i still can't manage to flash my Htc touch to ur v1.21 rom...

i read numerous threads and tried to unlock cid many different ways, it always gives me error 294: invalid vendor id...

im using 1.11.707.1B WWE... any help is appreciated

EDIT: i have a asia htc touch model...black...the only successful flash so far was using

"Solution: flash Seksona's version: HTC Touch Official Rom 1.11.707.1B with 55mb Storage & 4mbPagepool. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=320407

"

that i saw from another thread...this is how i got WWE on mine...but i cant upgrade it to the latest blue touch rom... nor the official 2.20 one...

always Invalid ID
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hi suckaB.. in v1.21 ROM update package, the CID unlocking is automated in the ROM updating process so you don't have to do a CID unlock first.

Try to do the following steps:

1. Unzip the download v1.21 ROM update file.

2. Activesync your Touch to the PC using USB.

3. When activesync connection is established, go into the directory and double-click on START.bat to start the automated CID unlocking and ROM updating.

4. Follow the instructions on screen and press <ENTER> after Step 1/3 and Step 2/3 and your ROM is updated in a breeze.

If you encountered error during the process, installed the 2 cabs - Cert_SPCS and Enable-Rapi - found in the directory of the downloaded .zip, do a soft reset and repeat Step 2 to Step 4 again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] akagi07@hotmail.com:
haha ok. That was what I was puzzled.

Touch had no radio module.. just alone a software ROM will do ???

Puzzled Me.

ok. lookking forward for your next ROM. haha
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
HELP

I don't know how - but something has happened and my incoming call ring volume has gone down to very very low!

Let me explain the history:

It was fine yesterday before I installed MS Voice Command 1.6. While I was playing with it, it recognized something I said and replied by saying 'Switching to quiet mode' or something like that. I then un-installed it an hour later. Did not check the ring volume at that time. Today, the volume is as low as it can be (around 10% of normal).

I have tried switching profiles, rebooting, changing ring tones and even the registry values at HKCU>>Control Panel>>SoundCategories>>Ring>>InitVol & Speaker. My defaults when I checked were 0 and 1 respectively. I tried increasing them to no avail.

PLEASE HELP. I can't hear incoming call rings !
[Touch GSM ROM Development] maassk213:
>>> Sorry guys - SOLVED!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] SuckaB:
thanks for the reply, i've tried that steps and it's the same result, my device resets at 3% and computer gives me invalid vendor ID error.

weird huh?

EDIT: if i try to install Cert_SPCS and Enable-Rapi, i turn off the device and turn it back on, then prceed to step2-4, my device will be frozen before RUU is able to load....tried it twice same result.

EDIT2: i noticed that on successful flash when i did my old firmware, i see the red green blue screen when final rom is flashing (RUU?). For every failed attempt, the screen stayed blank white, while computer showed progress bar...and then 3% hits, invalid vendor ID
[Touch GSM ROM Development] umma:
Problems using PocketCM Keyboard

Installed "PocketCM Keyboard", it install normally and run, but when I press keys the cursor step forward but nothing has been written and the system says me the filed is empty.

Any1 had problems like these with this utility.

Tnx all
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Tureluur:
Blue?!

Great ROM, changed from NLD to this one WWE and lovin' it. No issues so far. Just one, perhaps al little dumb, question: why is it called blue?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Yes the TOuch keyboard clashes withthe PCM keyboard. Hope the creator found a way around it. Both Keyboards are quite similar and explain the conflicts.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] fcuk8888:
first rpt for 1.21

I was running on msn messenger + IE for 30minutes, then the system prompted me with a low memory warning. Is this consider memory leak?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
It is called Blue because its first version was blue when many roms available at that time was green. Actually it's black and blue but whatever... haha..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
This is strictly not memory leak but rather memory low because of the programs you are running. Memory leak is like you do nothing to it but the Program memory is losing it slowly. Maybe someone else can explain better..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
It appears that you are abit confused. When you are in tri-color screen you are actually in what we called "bootloader" mode and this method of flashing rom is normally done with official HTC roms.

When you are flashing custom roms found in XDA forum for eg. like v.121 rom, you don't activate the bootloader mode but uses USPL CID unlocking first to bypass ID checks and then flash the custom rom. When the screen stay white it is a sign that it has successfully unlock CID and it is good. Leave it connected and flash the rom at this stage should be successful. It actually disconnect from activesync during the flashing. Do not reset the device and comp at this stage.

I hope the explanation give you a better understanding of the flashing process.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] fcuk8888:
ok. then HTC Touch RAM sucks. Anyone here can teach me to improve the situation?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
If you constantly running heavy program simultaneously, it is advisable to switch to 6Mb pagepool. v1.21 comes with 4Mb pagepool.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] baituo:
Have u moved IE cache folders to storage card?

Swiftblade mentioned on 1st page that for v1.21 "All the file locations are returned to original positions". Saw u said that u was running IE for 30mins...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] faisals:
Hi,

While using this blue rom, my observations are:

1. No significant difference in speed.

2. Edge icon now showing G for GPRS.

3. Fresh install - free memory more than 20MB, but after 10 minutes 13 MB. (Downloaded mail from windows live. Does it go in program memory. ??)

4. Camera album fliped upside down.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
OMG, I think I just screwed my phone. The update was cut in the middle with an ERROR message. The screen was completely white. Then I did a hard reset and now all I get is

RED

YELLOW

BLUE ın the whole screen

IPL 1.15.0002

SPL 1.15.0000

And it's stuck there. Windows won't load.

Guys, what can I do now? Please help, pleaseee. :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
I'm a newbie on this flashing thingy (Experience on Palm flashing only ;)), but if you have an Original ROM for your device you could try this:

[B]Elf SD Card flashing[/B]

This page describes how to upgrade your Elf ROM using an SD Card. This is useful for:
[LIST]
[*]Linux and Mac users: you don't need windows to upgrade the ROM[/LIST]

[B]ELF0IMG.nbh on a FAT32 filesystem[/B]

[LIST=1]<LI class="tightenable bottom">Empty (erase the contents) of your microSD card from the Windows Mobile file explorer or format it from your computer using a card reader (in some cases format doesn't work). <LI class="tightenable top bottom">Extract the .NBH file from your prefered ROM upgrade: In windows use winrar (right click) to extract the contents of the exe file. In Linux / MacOS use [URL="http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php"][IMG]http://wiki.xda-developers.com/themes/default/images/http.png[/IMG][COLOR=#0066cc]cabextract[/COLOR][/URL]. <LI class="tightenable top bottom">Rename the .NBH file to [B]ELF0IMG.nbh[/B] and copy it to the root folder of your microSD card. <LI class="tightenable top bottom">With microSD card inserted on the phone, start the bootloader (The bootloader is invoked by hold down the camera button and reset device with the stylus). <LI class="tightenable top bottom">confirm flashing on screen by pressing the power button (or the volume slider down).
[*]Flashing might hang after some time but this is normal. Just wait. Complete flash takes about 30 minutes, so check your battery or connect to charger before the flashing process starts.[/LIST]

Extracted from the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_SD_Card_Flashing)

Hope it helps!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
JUst soft reset again.. I might works.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
Thank you, I am trying it now. :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
No, it doesn't work. :( :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
No, it doesn't. :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
Feedback for the author :

I removed the microSD card, connected the device to my PC via USB.

When the bootloader screen was on the screen, I ran the ROMUpdateUtility.exe and it again gave me the error, error 270 to be specific. But then the Elf went on to boot on my old ROM. I guess it wasn't deleted in the first place. All is fine now. I couldn't upgrade to your ROM but at least I got my device back. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hk-trotter:
Ah, I just figured out that it's pof's CID unlocker that caused the havoc. I just checked the related thread and found out that he didn't write down the instructions properly in his first post. Almost everybody comes up with the same questions because they remain unanswered in the very first page where instructions are given.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Aspirina750:
What errors? I followed them without problems?:confused:

Anyway, glad you have everything working again ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
Heya Swiftblade,

memory leak resolved thanks to your advise on batterystatus' Build.

Build 243 seems to be the most memory effiicent.

Higher builds made memory leaks unbearable, within 2 -3 hours, RAM would drop to 4-6mb.

Build 243, for the last 15hours has been good, RAM now hovers at 11.6-12.2MB. And this is after Activesyncing, video viewing and general usage.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
Next Version :)

Bro,

was doing a comparison of the most enticing ROMs out there and this is what i got.

BTR 1.21 has the most available ROM space and the 2nd highest free RAM (looosing out to Xtrinty.X3s by 0.6mB) of the 3 in comparison. Good Job.

Just a question, i don't know if i should be asking here but what the heck :) if all three are based on the same 2.20.707 base, how come the OS versions or builds, even AKUs are different. Yours is correct. Are they typos, or have HTC released variants.

Only way for me to find out is to flash, but quite lazy lah, so here's hoping you or anyone could share some light.

Also Xtrinity is working on trying to get 4 more mb upon flashing (SR?), if i read this post correctly, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=341884, will you be doing the same with BTR, if its even possible, coz honestly yours is alot prettier.

Hate to get you stressed out by some more change requests, but these are the wonders of greed, where enough, is never enough is it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] joshwindeel:
hi,

I just upgraded to BlueTouch, excellent ROM, I'm just wondering how to make 1 small change. In my stock ROM before, picking one of the contacts through touchflo would bring up the outlook option screen where I could pick call, text, email, etc. Now it just jumps right into making a call to that contact. Any way to change this? Thanks for your help.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Yes, this has been reported somehow and all the custom rom is facing this problem. Seems to be something that the new ROM code has changed. Still in the process of looking into it and hope to find a solution. You have to bear with it for now...:(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] joshwindeel:
Argh, not what I was hoping to hear. Thanks for the quick response though!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] henftling:
is the "zoom" menu bar function implemented?

Hi there,

does anybody know if the oom of the menubar is implemented or is there a cab for this available?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gohyc:
Touch Dual 2.23 ROM : CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 18125.0.4.2)

So the Blue Touch Rom 1.21 has a later version. I find Touch Dual 2.23 a bit laggy (before overclock and additional apps installed).

I am going to flash to Blue Touch Rom 1.21. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hi thescum,

Good to hear that it working out. Great!

What a good comparison you have there. As to your question of confusing OS Builds and ROM versions, let first say that there is two parts to a ROM code, one provided by the OEM (HTC in this case) and the other the OS provided by Mircosoft. The 2.20.707.1B is referring to the ROM vesion and CE 5.2.1437 Build 18508 are referring to the Operating System or OS core and build.

Different chefs cook their ROMs differently and the numbers does not mean anything because it can be changed by re-writing the version information without actual changes to the software. I may be wrong but from your comparison chart, it appears that bram_smulders and Xtriny are using the OEM 2.20.707.1B ROM base and OS Build which is:

ROMVersion: 2.20.707.1B WWE

OS Version: CE OS 5.2.1620 Build 18125..0.4.2

Really, only they can tell. I am only guessing here. Myself, I used the 2.20.707.1B OEM rom base and the ported OS Build 18508 from Artemis. I didn't bother to change the version information because it is not significant. Important thing is that it work well..haha:D

For the memory boost as stated in Xtriny, I am also curious of what he has discovered. I am trying to try free memory by loading lesser and optimised resident programs and applications. It's in my TO DO list.:D

Cheers!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] thescum:
Thanks for the superb explanation. So you've ported the os build from the artemis, smart, since the rest are AKU 0.4.2 while yours is 0.7. Maybe that's why your ROMs seem so much faster.

Thanks for all your effort just wish HTC adopts your ROM so that everyone will enjoy what we have.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wongh_hk:
Swiftblade: Is it possible that you can send me the ringtone - OLDPhone in the original ROM.

Thanks:D