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[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] J_Dutch:
Yes it probably would. Just like the yellow bar on the OPO.

That's what I love about XDA, mostly honest opinions and not people who get paid to say something of a review unit.

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That's right but the OP3 will be charged faster since it's a smaller battery. I think for my type of usage the op3 will have slightly better battery life
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] gee2012:
Just received my device :victory: Are you ready to rumble ha ha. Looks a bit small compared to the Nexus 6 ;)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
Really now!!??

6p yesterday..... Benzo/Franco.. you show me a 5.7" QHD phone anywhere that does better...????
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] J_Dutch:
Nice result, but I don't get it even with benzo er whatever kernel.

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O nice! Enjoy it!
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
That's too bad.. I've always had excellent sot on both the 6p and shamu, but I guess the real question in my mind is, what phone does get acceptable battery life in your opinion? You said it does not do well for having a 3450mah battery.. is there a phone comparable that does do better? I'm always looking for better.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] edios123:
I've a 6P now, and ordered the OnePlus 3. I'm going to give the 6P to service centre tomorrow since it gets tooooo hot with 10 minutes of gaming and very warm even with light usage/browsing. This is my 2nd device though (replacement). The first device had much better battery life too.

But the front facing speakers are really good.

I'll get the OnePlus 3 by Monday.

[MENTION=6947587]crowsnestitsupport[/MENTION] Are you sure the camera on the 6P is better than the 10? I love the camera but in daylight it's a bit underexposed to what I'd like.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] J_Dutch:
I don't know, this is my first phone with a qhd screen. Everything after android KitKat had poor battery life. The one plus one with KitKat, unbeatable.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] TheDriller:
It gets hot because of the Snapdragon810

It's why the LGG4 shipped with an 808 hexacore. All 810 powered phones had the same heating issue. It was just a bad processor, equally fit for a just as bad phone (the nexus)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Skizzy034:
It will work with Verizon 3G but not LTE.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] edios123:
The 810 is implemented much better than in any other phone. And there were reports saying it stays cooler than the S6 Edge.

And the 6P is a bad phone? huh.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
on the 10 Camera... I have run 1 VZW device with the older firmware and 2 Unlocked US ones with the latest 1.80 OTA and taken 100's of side by side photos with the 6p, 5x, and A9 and all 3 have a decidedly better camera then the 10. I could send you dozens of comparisons. PM me if you want.. It's certainly a better camera than the M7, M8 and M9 but nowhere near were it needs to be to compare with the Sammy's, Iphone's and nexus's of today.

As to battery life on the 6p... I have used almost every single android phone ( except for samsungs) since the HTC Incredible 1 and I can hands down say that short of the Shamu with MM nothing has ever come close to the 6p. not even near.. The HTC 10 does very well for 5.2 inch phone, but its not powering phablet sized screen either.

As to the 810 SOC, i have had ZERO and I mean ZERO issues with it and I use it hard and have setup and sold almost 20 of them to various ppl and no one complains. I don't know why but the 810 in the 6p preforms so much better than the 810 in the HTC One M9.. Kinda like the 808 in the Moto X pure preforms better than the 808 in the Nexus 5x... But, in risk of derailing the thread here I'll shut up now.. I did get my shipping confirmation for the OP3 so hopefully I can report side by side comparisons with the 6p, HTC A9, and HTC 10 soon :):)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
I had the 6p and it was too big for me. the op3 is about the best designed phone ive owned so far. it just feels fragile, waiting for my otterbox to get here.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] TheDriller:
Its not that it's REALLY BAD... But in a way it kinda is. The camera hump is hideous. Its WAY too big. And keeping with Nexus tradition, hardware is always stuck in the past. The 810 was a flawed processor. Everyone knows that. There is just nothing impressive from the nexus line. They never innovate. Sure they get the latest updates from Google, and if you actually CARE about that then I guess it's an okay mid range device. And that's the ONLY redeeming quality. But for others, and myself, I could care less about having the newest OS and having to rebase every single month and start over with fixing bugs.

The nexus will never be top of the line. They will never innovate. Its always gonna be a copy. And honestly, nexus fan boys make me sick. Like dealing with a bunch of iSheep
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] kirdroid:
If you are stuck with useless Verizon your option is 6p only since OP3 won't work. 6p is definitely way better than the branded Verizon phones with that ugly logo and crap they put.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] remydlc:
The Nexus is not an innovative flagship, it didn't and never will compete with the rest, is just there to serve as a base, like a model, for developers and phone makers to release an equal or better phone HW and Software. Also to expose OEMs like LG and Huawei. You gotta wrong buddy. In fact, Google, like Apple, based their OS innovation from developers herr at XDA and Cydia.

Innovation? Leave that to Sammy, HTC, LG, Huawei, and Appl, etc.

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Would love to see your take on it. We kinda share the same sentiment towards phones. I just dont buy as many :p
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
Sorry.... couldn't disagree more... but.. thankfully we both love Android and therefore we have options!!!??
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
Only real advantage of op3 is cpu. Sd810 does heat and throttle if you are heavy user. Camera, battery, speakers, os is better on 6p, so its all about what you want from device
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Android > Apple:
I currently have a Nexus 6P and I ordered a OnePlus 3 the other day. I'll spend a few days comparing both devices. If I don't like the OnePlus 3 I'll send it back for a full refund. Nothing to lose. Or I keep it and sell my 6P. I have a feeling that I'll be packing the OnePlus 3's bags and sending it back home. I love the stereo speakers on the 6P. Going from that to a single bottom firing speaker is a bit of a downgrade in my opinion. It obviously won't be the deciding factor on which to keep, but good speakers are one of the main things I personally prefer. I'll weigh out the pros and cons of of both phones and time will tell which one better suits me and I will report back when I can on my findings.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] brickedvice:
Nexus camera has no ois. Video recording sucks.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
Yes thats true. If you are moving it shakes quite a bit, but still video quality seems superior, have to wait for gsmarena review for better comparison.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] brickedvice:
Different people have different eyes I guess. Nexus 6P video recording is average at best.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
That maybe true, but proffesional reviewers are there for a reason, and they have same opinion lol
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] daneoleary:
I've actually been using both. I've used the Nexus 6P for the past couple weeks and have been using the OnePlus 3 for the past four days. There are definitely pros and cons to both. As for performance, I'm actually more inclined to say OnePlus 3. However, the Nexus 6P has the qHD display and the immediate Android updates, so basically it's a matter of what's more important to you. One thing about the OnePlus 3 after using the Nexus is that the OnePlus 3 feels almost tiny. Of course, the Nexus is unusually long compared to most phones and has a 0.2-inch larger screen, but sometimes it feels like a much greater difference than that.

Of the two, I believe the OnePlus 3 would be my daily driver. I'm actually planning to keep both and switch back and forth.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] cacofonix:
I intend to do the same - did you root your OP3 yet?
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Entrail:
It's funny how many people say they'll miss the good Screen and Camera when they trade the 6P for the Oneplus 3 ;)

I had a Nexus 6P for around 4 or 5 month. I wanted to replace my Iphone 6 Plus. And for me batterylife is very important. But i had MASSIVE problems with my Nexus 6p. I had Wakelocks all day long. My Battery stats even said Wifi was on even if i turned it off. I really tried everything. Waiting for a few updates. Installing Greenify, Amplify, using it without any apps installed after factoryreset, some other roms, e.g. I Even got a replacement from Google and had the exact same Problems. The batterylife in generel was definetly worse than i expected. Max 4 or 4,5h SOT. But my biggest problem where these random drains.

And also my camera was pretty good if i manage to get a sharp foto. But very often the pictures very kinda blurry. I have seen some posts about it here on XDA so i know i wasnt the only one. And I came to the conclusion that this is a general problem with the laser autofocus.

Like i said the camera was better then my iPhone and i wouldn't sell it just cause of this autofocus. But the batterylife destroyed my experience. I dont know if the Oneplus is better in these cases, but i wouldnt use the 6P as a reference. In my opintion the newer Galaxy S7 and the HTC 10 are much better rivals for the oneplus than the nexus 6p.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] daneoleary:
I've unlocked the bootloader so that I could "fix" the RAM management issue, but I've not actually rooted. I may root eventually, but I would want to make sure that whatever ROM I use will still have Dash charging.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] t2jbird:
If the N6P released with everything the same except for an upgrade to the 820 and a 5.5 inch display I'd be all over that. For $500 that phone would be unbeatable.

Having said that, it hasn't yet, so the OP3 is the next best thing (when considering dev support.)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
Guys!! I'm totally blown away in the first hour here!!!! Amazing amazing! Not one single complaint... See screenshots and photos.. The device is completely bone stock. Just totally amazed so far. I was prepared to be extremely critical seeing how I'm a diehard HTC and Nexus fan but... But... well, the proof is in the photos lol. https://goo.gl/photos/RgwFUT3Rwhyt6XJL6
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] abelvarela:
I have Zuk Z1. Great battery life and great phone for price. Of course it's not a 6p or one plus 3, but great phone for the price (around 230 euros)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] anshmiester78900:
You know what guys I was confused between 6P(I have been using Nexus 5 since the day of it's release) and OP3 but after going through this thread I ordered myself OP3, it will arrive by 29. Can't wait to hold it in my hands.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] speedyjay:
Mate, those photos look the bees knees :)
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
:) I still haven't stopped being impressed! Anyone who's worried, the camera is not sub-power.. and it's way better than the 10.. will see how the battery does today but on the first charge I had 3 hours sot and was at 50% when I plugged it in last night..
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
Im happy that you are more than satisfied with your device, but lets stay realistic here. Camera is more than decent, but in no way is it better than 10, s7, g5 or 6p. There are enough reviews and youtube comparisons to back me up. But it doesnt have to be better, because at 400$ price range its still beast of a device.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
Say what you want about the 10:) Look at the photos!! I'll do some side by sides later. The camera on the op3 is not only better than the one on the 10, but its WAY better than the one on the 10. I have tested on 2 other HTC 10's as well as the one that has been my daily driver for ever since the day I got my preorder... There is no comparison.. Its not even close. https://goo.gl/photos/RgwFUT3Rwhyt6XJL6
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
I saw your photos mate, everythings nice but doesnt prove a thing[emoji14]Go look at reviews and professional comparisons, zoomed in and cropped photos shows difference of quality. Op3 is really good when conditions and lighting is good, but throw a bit harder scene at it and it fails in comparison to the ones i listed earlier :) But still a very good camera, especially for this price range
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
Everyone is entitled their own opinion I guess :) But you get both of them in your hands and test and you'll see what I mean in a second! I have been using the 6p, and Htc 10 side by side for a month now and I still have not found a single setting, indoor or outdoor, natural or artificial, bright or dark where the Htc 10 takes a "wow, thats a good pic" photo.. The 6p takes amazing photos. The OP3, with the 100 some photos I've taken so far is right up there with the 6p and decidedly better than the Htc 10.

But again, test them yourself and you'll see. I also have 2 close friends with the HTC 10 and they both complain long and loud about the camera. It's simply not that good of camera..
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] feis:
Yup, opinions may differ. And i cant test side by side, cause i dont have op3, im still thinking if its worth spending money, im currently using 6p. But i do have access to htc 10, my father has one, didnt really complain and i also didnt have any problems with its camera, tho i do still prefer 6p. Oh and btw 10 has same camera module as 6p, + ois, so really no reasons for it to suck, only difference is probably how software processes those images.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] crowsnestitsupport:
I have tried Google Camera, snap camera, and stock camera apps on the HTC 10 and did lots and lots of side by sides with the 6p and 10 and never one time did the 10 come close. Its darn frustrating actually because I'm a big HTC fan and I payed more for the Htc 10 than any of my other devices in quite some time and I really really wanted this 10 to bail out HTC.. But so far it not been working. I was so dissatisfied with the 10's camera that I called HTC and set up a replacement device within the 1st hour of having gotten it. It seems the 2nd devices was a little better and the ota's had improvements but still not enough :crying::crying: I'm gonna test a week more but at this point I'm selling the 10 and replacing it with the OP3.. PS, I do miss the expandable storage :mad:
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] jrsns70:
Just be careful to jump to op3 yet if ur planning to go to project fi or tmobile network. Both work fine out the box with tmob/fi sim but ur going to have problem with wifi calling since it is not supported in op3. Wifi calling is a must if ur in basement, building with poor signal and only wifi is available.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] AcmE85:
Could you maybe do a camera comparison with the OP3 and HTC 10?

So far what I learned from most reviews is that the 10 is inferior in daylight and often shows a grey cast over the whole picture.

In lowlight pictures came out brighter, even though I can't tell if the pictures were any better.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] rehughe:
I have t-mobile and I've had no issues making Wi-Fi calls on my op3 using Google Hangouts.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] Dabarr:
Which is not the same as the built in wifi calling using t-mobile, for example . :)

It's like a regular call but automatically made via wifi instead of using regular gsm.
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] noobtoob:
This statement is true, but hangouts also has the ability to use your cell phone number, essentially providing the same service.

I'm not a hangouts user, don't like it at all, but did use it before T-Mobile improved their coverage when I brought a note 3 over from at&t. It works fine this way if you are looking for an alternative.

[MENTION=4053634]rehughe[/MENTION] I'm curious myself to see how it would work since project-fi is a mixture of Sprint and T-Mobile. If you do try it out, let us know. The only thing we do know for sure is the phone itself does not have a Wi-Fi calling feature built in, and I don't know if they will allow on the project-fi network (they should, just not sure).
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] rehughe:
I ported my number to Google voice several years ago and almost exclusively use Hangouts for all my calls. I have the $30 t-mobile plan, and don't use the t-mobile sim card number at all. All incoming and outgoing calls go through Hangouts.

I wouldn't say it works perfect, but it works very well. Every now and then the call quality will go to crop and the call will drop. I'm not a big phone talker though so I'm OK with it.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
I know there is another very similar thread that was just opened(http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-one/help/completely-stock-oneplus-one-stuck-t3396207), but his solution didn't help me so I'm making this thread.

I really need to save my internal data, so only as a last resort will I wipe userdata to save my phone.

First of all my phone is completely stock. Locked bootloader, unrooted, stock recovery, and stock rom. Last thursday(June 9th), I got the CM13.1 OTA update which I installed and everything went normal. It finished installing, restarted and booted up, optimized apps, rebooted, but then optimized apps again and again. I thought it might help to just reboot my phone, but it didn't. So I immediately started looking around for solutions.

I can boot into recovery and fastboot mode and since I can boot into recovery I started with wiping cache(Stock Recovery>>Factory reset>>Wipe cache partition). It took ~20mins which seemed like an unusually long time, then I rebooted and it still got stuck in the "optimizing apps/reboot loop". Next, I set up USB drivers, ADB, and fastboot since it seems to be very important to have those set up. I used a few guides to get them properly set up and I checked that they were correct by checking that the cmds "adb devices" and "fastboot devices" returned my device, which they did. I saw someone saying he saved his friends OPO by just ADB sideloading a CM zip file, so it looked hopeful in my case. I downloaded cm 13.0 and 13.1 zip files and tried sideloading them with the cmd "adb sideload cm13.zip". I tried both and they both got to around 50% complete and the install failed. Some of the red text said, "Package expects build fingerprint of oneplus/bacon/A0001:5.1:6.0.1..... & E:Failed to install /sideload/packages.zip ". Next I tried installing TWRP, which looks like it requires an unlocked bootloader to flash it(even to to just boot into it). From all my research it looks like there's no way to unlock the bootloader without wiping data. Even the OPO toolkit says you need to wipe data to unlock your bootloader.

One thing I haven't looked too much into is using fastboot to save my device. This guide http://www.technobuzz.net/fix-bricked-dead-oneplus-one-easily/ shows to flash userdata userdata_64g.img, which I assume wipes userdata.

Maybe I'm just overlooking some simple fix, but if anyone can help me I would be eternally grateful.

Edit: I need my phone working and I'm tired of waiting for help, so I just did a factory rest. Also I've been getting tons of conflicting advice. Thanks everyone for the help anyways
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastersen901:
kinda on the same boat here.

may i ask how you set up adb? i cant get it to work
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
download and install the 15 second adb/fastboot installer (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2588979)

It'll create a folder: C:/adb, In that folder you can open a cmd prompt window to send cmds to your device through adb/fastboot. that folder is also where you place files that you want to flash or boot into.

Also for the USB drivers just download the oneplus one toolkit, or use this guide: http://www.technobuzz.net/install-oneplus-one-usb-drivers-windows/

the opo toolkit is in the 2nd method
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
Still looking for help. Phone status: After sideloading cm 12.1 it boots up but I get tons of errors saying com.android.phone failed/ android.system.acore failed which make my phone inoperable, also my phone usually reboots after ~10 seconds after booting up and getting errors.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itechy:
when you flashed the stock zip via sideloading did you use the full zip or the incremental zip?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
The zip I sideloaded was cm-12.1-YOG4PAS1N0-bacon-signed.zip (http://builds.cyngn.com/cyanogen-os...be76f9310/cm-12.1-YOG4PAS1N0-bacon-signed.zip)

I'm pretty sure it's the full zip
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itechy:
You will have to flash the latest version as performing a downgrade without wiping data will cause issues like the ones you are seeing
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
I can't really find a full cm13.1 zip. On CyanogenMod I only see up to 13.0. I also don't know how to tell the difference between an incremental and full zip D:
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itechy:
Visit the support page I grabbed my full update zip from there https://cyngn.com/support
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
Ohh! thanks! I was looking for this!
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
I just got around to sideloading the cm 13.1 zip. I'm still getting a bootloop /:

Edit: My phone reboots and optimizes apps after getting hung up on the cyanogen boot screen for a while.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hibernick:
I'm in the same situation.

It seems like a cache cleaning is needed but I have no idea whether it possible without a custom recovery and without a full adb support.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saurav007:
You can wipe cache partition in stock recovery also. To boot into recovery mode first power off your device. Press Volume down + Power button together until you see oneplus logo. When device is in recovery mode press volume down and select 'wipe cache partition' and press power button to confirm the action. Reboot after process completes.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hibernick:
The same like woodhaus I have locked bootloader and there is no USB debug over adb.

I don't have a 'wipe cache partition' in the recovery.

The only things I can use are adb sideload and fastboot.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
I have wipe cache partition but it doesn't seem to do anything. also it takes like 35 minutes to complete
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hibernick:
How did you do it?

You told you are on stock recovery. Me either and I don't see such option in my recovery.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woodhaus:
it's under the factory reset option from the main menu on stock recovery

stock recovery>factory reset> erase cache partition
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hibernick:
Oh, thanks. I didn't even go there.
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RubenPCA:
rom that you recommend and why
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sher1234:
Turbo ROM
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyenquangduc2000:
cm13
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sher1234:
Dirty Unicorns
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haunguyen13:
Xosp
[E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iks8:
stock 6.0
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] houssin7:
Hello friends... I ve just got new rn3 pro snapdragon variant so i need to unlock and root it but i afraid to damage my phone coz i saw many method.. Know i want a safely method to do that plz help me..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] houssin7:
Please help me...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] amansharma0322:
Go for official unlock...it takes around 10 days