yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] hoqpus:
Hi!

I tried to follow this guide. Unfortunately I don't have the option to select "f2fs" in twrp 3.0.2-0.

Can anyone help please?

EDIT: I reflashed TWRP and it worked =)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] mascian:
Hi, you reflashed dianlujitao TWRP (V2)

http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-2-0-touch-recovery-t3402999

or Grarak?

http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-t3401014

...some time ago I had problems with dianlujitao TWRP.

Thanks.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] :
My version is 0802. the readonly system is allready unchecked (I never changing this parameter) so I can't help more. Just for information, I use the unofficial version of TWRP found here.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] epypro:
oh :(

so ,

1- anybody see the camera more "dark" in pokemon go? with AR on, obviously.

2- and retry my question: where can i change the app background limit? theres no line in build.prop like in oos.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] michdeskunk:
now it worked... I have mounted only system and data. I think that if you mount cache too, make trouble. Anyway I have inserted my old cyano account but when I init trudialer make me trouble when it call me back for confirm...
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] daavid1995:
1. I don't know, I don't use AR.

2. I think in CM there is no limit.

send from my OnePlus ³
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Posted in error
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Supovitz:
I haven't tried LightFlow yet but has anyone tried using the capacitive buttons as a notification light?

It seems CM has jacked the LEDS up to 100% compared to stock.

Having the RGB LED flash white along with a glow from the bottom might be nice.........

Luxuries! Because everything else is already way too damn stable!

:good:
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] hoqpus:
I downloaded it from the official twrp website:

twrp.me
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Naxiz:
In the next nightly sdcardfs will be disabled again to fix gallery and camera for those using ext4: https://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/155164

Anyone knows if this has any impact for those using F2FS?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] proag:
There's no background app limit in CM13.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Is this pretty much daily driver now?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Stephen:
Moderator warning,

Thread has been cleaned. Flaming other users is not acceptable.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] pmeijer85:
Would like to know the same as I'm on f2fs....
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ruspa:
Yes, totally.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Scrawson:
Official, but its not in jira. Is there a place to submit bug reports?

Briefly, camera2 API is buggy. Can't control shutter speed with it. Test by using a camera2 API camera and setting arbitrarily long. It will expose for only a very short time no matter the setting.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Excellent. Will unlock and flash away.

Thanks
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Vriesdejoop:
Just tried it, I could not see any difference on f2fs. Galary still works, also copying files.

As I read on githup it has something to do with wrong (700) rights when pictures are saved. But then I don't realy understand it :D
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Schrotty35:
ChromaFlash is coming http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/154668/

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ruspa:
just pay attention to the "ro.sdcardfs.enable=true/false" thing in build.prop to avoid crashes when opening the gallery.

I hade a brief glimpse on https://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/155164 and I'd like to know if those who already moved to f2fs now need to do it all over again in ext4.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Cygnust:
0803 was a bootloop for me, seems like it was ok for most of you ?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Yeah I'll flash cm then format to f2fs. Thanks
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
No need to format to f2fs with today's nightly.

Sdcardfs has been removed until the issue with ext4 is solved internally.

For those already using f2fs, nothing should change apart from the fact that sdcardfs is not used anymore.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Excellent. Thanks
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] migel121:
I have now changed to f2fs that was now nothing, or go both?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Hi, I've not changed to f2fs but clicking on the gallery is rebooting my phone?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] dianlujitao:
We disabled sdcardfs for now to unbreak ext4 users, will be included in nightly 0804, Steve will address the issue later
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Sentinel999:
has the bug someone else? the freezes the phone and no longer wakes up after a long time?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
ok, so just wait it out till tomorrow and it should work?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
The next nightly will be built in a couple few hours and will already include this fix.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Excellent, thanks for letting me know
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] alirezaircn:
I believe I have replaced "snap camera" with Google camera while flashing stock gapps. Any way I can revert to snap camera like a zip file flashable, please?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
Wipe System, flash the latest Nightly + a "smaller" gapps package, then reboot.

Keep in mind that all additional mods to the system partition like Xposed or SuperSU will be removed this way.

Don't forget a nandroid backup just in case...
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] arrgh:
Confirmed:

And [MENTION=4689523]kenzolo[/MENTION]

Once I move to f2fs on data and cache, flashing supersu in twrp official drops a ton of errors trying to create directory '/su/bin' and then bombs out on boot patching because predictably the /su/bin folder isn't present;

- System-less mode, boot image support required
Created filesystem with 11/6144 inodes and 1422/24576 blocks
/data/su.img: 11/6144 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 1422/24576 blocks
- Mounting image
mknod: /dev/block/loop0: File exists
- Creating paths
mkdir: can't create directory '/su/bin': Read-only file system
chown: /su/bin: No such file or directory

I tried both with a clean TWRP startup straight to flash and then also explicitly mounting /system before trying the flash. Same result.

Also tried process variations with CM flash, a full boot, reboot and install ... then separately a cm flash then immediate supersu flash before booting.

Switching data and cache back to ext4, wiping, then trying the flash again with the same SuperSU zip works straight away.

So are my fumblings current with what's going on now? ... we can either have SuperSU or f2fs but not both. :rolleyes:

Above testing using;

twrp-3.0.2-0-oneplus3.img

cm-13.0-20160803-NIGHTLY-oneplus3.zip

UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.76-20160630161323.zip (Latest stable)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] alirezaircn:
which gapps package do you recommend?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
I always use OpenGapps nano (arm64) http://opengapps.org/

and install a few additional google apps through the playstore or via apkmirror.com.

App-updates are stored inside the data partition anyway,

so there is no need to use a bigger gapps package in my opinion.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Dharani_V:
My data and cache are on f2fs . do i need to change back to ext4 now ?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
Yes, that is, if you don't read the thread... If yes, then no. I hope you can follow me ;)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] v7:
The new update should work fine on f2fs.

__

v7

XDA Assist
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Köppchen:
GApps Package

I had problems connecting my watch with Android Wear. Starting the App caused a restart of Android. After looking into the log i saw errors with the calendar Provider. I installed the Calendar from Google Play, but this did not change the anything. Changing the GApps Package from pico to Micro apps solved the problem. Did anoyone else have the same effect?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] oldie51:
I have been following the f2fs yes/no/maybe discussions for while now, but what i still don't know is, what would i lose by NOT using f2fs?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Salty Wagyu:
I'm also wondering if F2FS also improves app install times from Google Play. Personally I find it slow, it spends more time installing than it does downloading.

On an unrelated note, Google should get some background downloading built into Google Play, there's too many pauses when it does the download.. install.. download.. install.. routine.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] arrgh:
My understanding is that we "lose" out on some performance and disk housekeeping efficiencies, however the scale we are talking about is the difference between a petrol and diesel engine rather than a motorboat vs a paddle. I am deliberately generalising as I don't know enough to make authoritative evaluations. I have been winning and losing with both f2fs/ext4 on this ROM and I don't notice the difference, but then 'supposedly' f2fs would be better in the long run as opposed to the short run.

Tonight's nightly ... http://get.cm/get/jenkins/172784/cm-13.0.1-20160804-NIGHTLY-oneplus3.zip ... (Which defaults to ext4?) has literally just finished building minutes ago, I am about to D/L it, ext4 all partitions and probably be quite happy with that.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
Why do you spam this every day? Every flashaholic takes his eyes on https://www.cmxlog.com/13/oneplus3/#next_build so it's not useful to make the thread bigger and bigger....

Two days ago i had to ask about f2fs and gallery, because there where 30 new pages in one or two days...
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] atoyu:
Hello. May I know is snapdragon camera already in cm13?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
It comes with cm13 since the unofficial builds. If you don't have it, your gapps removed it...

Please don't ask how to fix this, I already answered this question in this thread today.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] zia6182:
Same here
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ritchiedrama:
I accidently changed my 'preferred network type/mode' and I can't remember what the default setting was/is and theres a lot of options, anyone know? :]
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Gerrit507:
It's the top one.

Just flashed newest nightly. Running fine on f2fs, ext4 not tested yet. Can't wait to take some awesome pictures.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ritchiedrama:
Are you sure?

The one that says Global (CDMA/EvDo/LTE/GSM/WCDMA)?

It also said my default APN was telecomdefault wap.telecom.co.nz - yet... I'm not from new zealand? :D
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] trythat:
Same here, I rolled back. I need Android Auto, so lets hope whatever was changed is put back. I like to flash, don't want to stay on old rom :)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Gerrit507:
Yep, 100% sure. You can get your apn info from your carrier, mine is usually chosen correct automatically.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ritchiedrama:
It's weird my phones working fine with it on the NZ one, but all the others are there too from my carrier in the list

Strange. Are we supposed to switch back to ext4 now btw? Mind boggles.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Gerrit507:
No, working fine with f2fs.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
Is the camera quality now OSS like? I can't try, because i switched back to complete stock.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ShotByMeir:
It's still not the same, but it is almost there. Shots taken on the latest nightly look good :)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
Thanks for this quick response, sir!

Other question - Screencast now working? Did u find any other bugs?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] AcmE85:
Judging by the commit description, snap should show different modes now on the OP3.

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/154668/

Did you try them and compare the results?

"Clear Shot" sounds like HQ on OOS.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ShotByMeir:
Casting to my chromecast is working fine, doing it now to test it as we speak :D Gallery (storage) is fixed. Seems like CM13 is almost fully stable for the OP3 :)

---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 PM ----------

Modes are there, just tried them but not all work yet. Just makes the camera crash. Only modes that work for me are HDR, auto (which doesn't do much) and sport. Also holding the shutter button to quickly snap multiple photos doesn't work, just takes 1 photo and that's it.

The only difference I can spot compared to OOS is that the postprocessing is a little better in OOS, but the terrible noise from older nightlys is pretty much completely gone. (I compared shots in dark conditions, in good light conditions photos are practically the same)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Vriesdejoop:
If you need the camera don't flash todays build, get a lot of FC on the new settings in camera. Don't think all the updates for the new camera are already in todays build!
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
Why is the camera quality in CM roms so bad? For the OP3 it's now one of the frist with a better camera, but not good as stock. For me that was everytime a dealbreaker and i switched to rooted stock.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] awsmanks:
Has anyone tried CyanDelta updater? Does it provide incremental updates?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ShotByMeir:
I haven't heard anyone about this issue here, I opened this thread http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3/help/official-cm13-crashing-wifi-connection-t3428922/page1 because at first I wasn't able to post here.

Whenever I connect to my Apple airport extreme my OP3 crashes and reboots. Happens every time I connect. Doesn't happen on other routers or on OOS. Anyone know what the issue could be or where I can report it? Sorry, I'm still a bit of a newbie :confused:

---------- Post added at 05:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:24 PM ----------

Tried it multiple times, but didn't work for me :(
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Chronzy:
Yes you are. Impressed with how well CM is running on this phone right out of the gate. Great work man.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] smoki3:
Will you push your source to offical cm git?

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Romanbb:
+1

nicely done so far :).
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] papi92:
So, decided to just turn off VoLTE and i have to say this ROM is amazing. I'm having no issues. My camera is not closing. Bluetooth is perfect on my Ford Sync. The UI is smooth and fast. I hope we can get forced encryption at some point. It is just safer but that is just me being a troll. The ROM is awesome. I can recommend it to anyone
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] zeeBomb:
Anyone know the default I/o scheduler and CPU governor used?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] RagingHarry:
This rom is running great for me for a few says now.

Had a couple of instant reboots, but those should be expected atm.

Charging is still running fine and fast on the last build for me it looks almost like VOOC or Dash ;)

.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] masaga91:
Hi guys I'll be getting my op3 in a few hours and the first thing will be to flash cm, I will report battery life and how everything goes
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Der-Knuffi:
If you not really need it, don't use it, it then unnecessarily uses cpu and battery.

Remember: Everything you read and write must be de- and encrypted.

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Ollebro:
So what gapps package are you guys using? I tried with arm64 stock from open gapps which results in a boot loop. I'm following the first page and flash gapps immediately after the rom.

Nothing else flashed. Rom and gapps using garaks twrp.

If I only flash the rom it's fine, boots up just like it's supposed.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Chronzy:
No problem here with open gapps nano...
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ViruuZ:
Camera is near to stock? Because stock Camera is awesome and I always experienced some quality changes from stock to CM

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] matssa:
The camera app isn't the same, so auto HDR doesn't work.

[MENTION=4443334]Grarak[/MENTION], new OOS will have sRGB. Is CM13 already in sRBG or is it possible to port it? Same question for the camera app but I don't think you want to port it, considering Snap camera ;)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] paulischy:
work the Fingerprint on this Rom ???
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Planet X:
Yes, it does.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] masaga91:
Just finished flashing, flash it with micro gapps without a problem

one little question, is there a way to have floating window in cm?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] papi92:
Should we be using Google Dialer or the Stock CM Dialer?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] papi92:
[MENTION=4443334]Grarak[/MENTION] here is a logcat of VoLTE causing force close on phone.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] papi92:
Actually [MENTION=4443334]Grarak[/MENTION] here is the proper logcat. Sorry.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] papi92:
[MENTION=4443334]Grarak[/MENTION] can I see your roomservice.xml? I want to try and help if possible. It has been a long time though.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] MarcusHD:
Hi,

Is it possible to update Gapps (Opengapps)?

I will not have any Gapps on my Data partition because I will have more free space.

With my S3 I have flashed every few days the latest Gapps, so no update will installed in data partition.

Can I do it here in the same way without brick my O+3?

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Maxd195:
Someone earlier said it does
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shinra00:
So i read most of this thread (took a couple of days to do so) and i would like to make one question. I'm personally using CM13 on my old device and love it but i would like to know, besides the camera issues that are being solved, what improvements can CM13 bring to 1+3 over the oxigenOS? ty for your time
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] lammpat:
Because its in nigthly mode, wait for the stable build, I truly believe Steve Kondik and other maintainer will not rest until the camera is equal to oss or better.

Second thing I am not sure about either cm has complete access to all the source code related to camera. OP can put some light on that.

And btw its not SO BAD! Please do not insult the devs working day and night to give us a amazing rom for FREE!
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] quini2k:
It works fine. I've used it to update last 4 or 5 nightlies, with downloads 14 to 45MB.

Note that the stored zips are double size, as they're stored uncompressed (1GB vs 1/2 GB).

Quini OP3
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] trythat:
Car is in for service, has anyone tested the 20150804 update yet with Android Auto, has the reboot removed itself?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
Can't see 04 for download on https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=oneplus3 latest download is 03?!?!?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Juli112:
Looks like they pulled the 04/08 update back...
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] rui.ddevil:
Apparently they removed it... because an hour ago it was there.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] locotion:
Same for me, was shown on System Update also, but gave me an error message when trying to Download, and was gone after a couple of trys.

Probably have to wait again :)

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Dekz:
So calm down and wait longer. What the hell is wrong with you people?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] awsmanks:
Thank you very much.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] DanielGiGi:
When every second person wrote about the 04 nightly it is legitimate to ask for it! So calm down and don't tread on me!

EDIT: Can someone upload his nightly? I switched from stock to twrp and f2fs now i have no rom :P
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] arrgh:
This links still works ok ... https://mirror.cyanogenmod.org/jenkins/172784/cm-13.0.1-20160804-NIGHTLY-oneplus3.zip

And FYI I've been running it for two hours and it's fine. No problems at all, and I don't have any of the hanging or freezing camera issues I'm reading other people talking about. I do not use Car mode though - and - importantly, I wiped absolutely everything before installing. Davlik/cache/data/Internal Storage/system .. all of it.

IMO the camera doesn't seem to "suck" compared to OxygenOS. In comparison to other phone camera hardware I have (S7, mmmm), yes, it's poor, but both CM and Oxygen are *equally* poor. This 20160804 nightly is significantly better than what I was using on the 0802. Focusing is much quicker and the end photos are much sharper. Don't force enable HDR though. That screws it right up. Leave it on auto.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
I've been using it as well and it seems to be excellent. No issues with gallery and camera seems good enough to me.

It's not showing dash charging though, just says charging rapidly? I thought it had been implemented?
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Naxiz:
Charging rapidly also includes Dash Charge, it's just the text used for 2A+ I guess.

You can check if Dash Charge is working by installing Ampere, it should show something like 3200 mA.
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] savo83:
Yeah, I think it's definitely working. The speed is unbelievable :)
[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Schrotty35:
What is TNR and CDS Mode in Snap?

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[OnePlus 3 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] :
Nevertheless it would be good to know the reason why the the cm team has withdrawn a couple of already released today's nightlies (manta, onyx, oneplus2 and 3, ...). Is it still save to use today's nightly??

Anyone ??