yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
Nothing. The Spb benchmark graphics index doesn't show anything. I could list a lot of devices with high graphics index but still very slow video playback or gaming (as opposed to some other models with way lower indices).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
If that helps, on 9502 with latest CorePlayer there is little difference between RAW and DirectDraw.

There is no registry entry for ahi2dati.dll.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jygar:
From my results I would assume we have the same issue still?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lmbranco:
Are you sure the drivers are active?

Which keys did you actually change?

I changed some keys and now my kaiser is a half brick, so i have to make a hard reset, but i will make some further tests ;-)

Regards,

Luís

Edit: Well, nothing like a new ROM to solve the problem, i will make some other tests and lets see if it works now :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] johneijg:
Just tested and compared the results with ddi.dll and with ahi2dati.dll, both gave the exact same results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xmoo:
Damn, that's fu up. Think we need mroe files then... or more registery edits.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pfcsabre:
hehehe... I think we're missing other files, dug up some information on the thread:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] milesmowbray:
Looks like that changed nothing, well anything directdraw based anyway. On most devices these figures are usually similiar.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] milesmowbray:
Looks like the 9502 has better directdraw drivers/support then, can you try TCPMP just to be sure?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xmoo:
Have you tried other benchmark programms?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
Holy ****! Direct Draw and RAW both suck in TCPMP (~70%) but GAPI mode rulez!! 185% for very high quality DivX encoded from HDTV source:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] neva dinova:
does that mean the dll works?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
You guys are being silly.

You can't replace DDI.dll with ahi2dati.dll since they don't even have the same exported calls. It's much like trying to replace your car engine with just a Turbo, or your car windows with car tires. It's not the same.

Meantime, looking through this 9502 ahi2dati.dll uploaded, it is the same as the one in the KS20 except it's been properly signed. Can whomever upload the DDI.dll also so I can see if it's structured the same as the one from the KS20?

Meantime, I finally do have very limited working KS20 dlls that can be used with a very limited subset of EGL calls (not even enough to run GLBenchmark through) although now I'm hitting hardware issues that seem to be related to hardware (ARM9?) not signaling when to do buffer flips (VBL?). Summary, a bunch of other stuff not being started up/setup correctly.

I matched up some data with the Android stuff, but it's all very limited. It would help if some of the other "guys" weren't so busy and jump in on this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Isaygarcia:
Thats it.

we need also the DDI.dll and another dlls.

can anyone dump and post them in here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
are you actually serious? um.. what did u do to get this type of playback?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omikr0n:
No need for excitement with GAPI performance. GAPI is completely UNaccelerated. What it basically does is exposing graphic memory, so direct writes can be made to it. It does not use a little bit of sleeping graphic hardware in our devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
GAPI is simply ultra fast on 9502, I don't care why and how. 9502 does have the drivers for hardware acceleration, maybe they are implemented this way that GAPI calls go through them (makes sense for games and so on). So no hardware specific coding needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
The file I'm testing with is DivX5 encoded with Theater profile, Quality=1 (so max possible quality). Source was HD-DVD Miami Vice. File details:

320x128, 47MB, duration 2:38, Mono MP3 96kbit/s

Smooth zoom always ON, Dither ON.

Coreplayer: best result was ~70% in RAW or DirectDraw (same performance in both modes)

TCPMP 0.81RC1: same results, BUT in GAPI mode I get 160%. Someone mentioned that GAPI could downscale or something, but the picture is excellent just like in RAW or DirectDraw, it's just 2x faster!

P.S. Sometimes I get black screen in TCPMP GAPI mode (probably after running Coreplayer in Qtv mode), I then simply soft-reset to make GAPI work again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Autourdupc:
Dear,

Where did you found TCPMP 0.81RC1 ?

Do you have a link ?

Best regards,

Laurent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
So good news is that in GAPI watching fulscreen video is possible, but only up to QVGA resolution. In case of 640x448 video things got worse, just 70% and displayed picture might get downscaled to 320x240 :mad:

P.S. Found TCPMP 0.81RC1 on Google, whole 5 seconds spent on searching.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Autourdupc:
Thanks... Already found it using google !

Laurent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] notten:
So, I'm glad you're excited, but you can take 4 HD movies and render them all on the same screen effectively creating a super-HD movie at a resolution like 3840x2160. This seems absolutely insane, but then you can re-encode it to 320x240 and claim it runs great in TCPMP.

Doesn't matter--> Source was HD-DVD Miami Vice. File details:

Matters -> 320x128, 47MB, duration 2:38, Mono MP3 96kbit/s

The fact that 320x128 video runs under 100% with any of the render methods that are supposed to work on these phones is just sad. You being an ass does NOT help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schriss:
loool :D

Just fyi - that 320x128 was encoded with DivX6 with Theater profile. Does it matter or doesn't? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evilc:
No, it makes ZERO difference when discussing hardware accelerated graphics.

All HT profile does is set certain options within divx which ensure compatibility with a hardware device that has a sticker on it for the name of the profile. Thus anything you encode with HT profile will play on a device that has a "DivX Home Theatre" sticker on it.

It has absolutely no effect on the resolution apart from limiting it's *max* resolution (720x576@25FPS in the case of PAL Home Theatre)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Drivers from the Diamond

I probably won't have the time to figure this out completely myself, and some others have already made significant progress with porting the KS20 drivers (much further than I came myself). I give you, the relevant files from the Diamond, I hope someone will get them to work on the Kaiser! Includes ahi2dati, ddi, d3dm_ati, libgles_cm, gxdma and all dependancies I could discern. Happy hacking!

Edit: added remote_apis_clnt and remote_apis_svc on request.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] neilson:
Queue Indiana Jones theme music. This is our phone holy grail!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] worstenbrood:
could you add remote_apis_clnt.dll and remote_apis_svc.dll, some of these dll's depend on it, thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Files added: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2217896&postcount=1004
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] animelover:
Is there a tutorial exsisting, which teaches on how to port a driver? I want to play a little bit with these drivers for the HTC Niki! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] davidebeatrice:
freezing phone on italian device...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kaasaanfiets:
probebly becose those drivers arent for the TyTN2...

Does the diamond contain the same graphics chip, en does it have the right drivers?

if so htc bought them from quallcom (or something)

if they payed for it then why arent the releasing it for the TyTN?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] storino03:
I believe it's the same graphics chipset, or maybe the next model specification up from the ATI Imageon 2300

--James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fultotop:
I'm not sure if it's a ATI Imageon 2300 but here's a small pdf with a bit of infomation reguarding the full msm7200 chipset, but the Kaiser may be a cut down version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RizwanKhan:
diamond runs on vga ofcourse it doesn't have the same graphics chipset as kaiser.

and as far as releasing them for kaiser than how do u expect htc to be able to sell the diamond ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajmagi:
by earning costumer trust....??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Um, actually, I beleive the Kaiser chipset can support VGA resolutions if the LCD is there that can do it.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] undac:
I'm fairly sure they use the same graphics components even if they don't there's certainly nothing to prevent them from doing so at least.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jldiablo:
do people still working on this? or it just hopeless and we may need to seek a new phone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chainfire:
Read todays update on HTCClassAction.org and you will have your answer :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bio88:
So there is some progress! Superb! I was beginning to lose faith in this. Im not convinced that itll happen still. Well see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
see the thing is no company wants anything public other then good publicity. So even if you think this law suite isnt going to do anything, atleast it will give bad publicity..and no company wants that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Isaygarcia:
any news with the driver chainfire?..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Lemmlng:
good news: http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1

but the lights.exe doesn'n run on my german tytn II with original htc-6.1-rom :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DaveShaw:
There are 2 other threads discussing this, one in ROM development and one in Kaiser general. I suggest you start there for help.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vj4:
HERE WE GO PEOPLE!!!!! man i had like 4 hours sleep after stubbling on the driver just befor it was out. let hell break lose and if this can be used on other devices htc will have to release a proper device with all the stuff working on it!!!!!!!!! hahahaha if we can get the word out enough we just right royaly fuc*ed them up the ass like they did to us
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Autourdupc:
Demo do not work on my TyTN II

Exception error :

Code : 0xc0000005

Adr. : 0x01381130

read : 0x78a260b8

Any idea ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Ben daniel:
I can confirm the following, i'm running L26's Diamond V9 on my Orange HTC Kaiser with the radio that came with the rom.

Before installing the cab file from htc class action the "lights test" program ran but "stuttered" through its cycle....After installing the driver cab file the hollow cylinder rotates smoothly with no tearing what so ever.

I'm impressed so far, I ha d long given up on this project. A sign of things to come?:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
I love posts like the above one.

" I can confirm"

"confirmed"

LAWL
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scottola:
Just tried it on my Vodafone Stock 6.1 rom.

Error

exception code: 0xc0000005

Exception address: 0x01331130

Reading: 0x789c60b8

Is it helpful to post this info?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] plaktoets:
Any chance this will work on a stock 6.0 rom?

I have no intention to upgrade, reading all the horror stories, but i do want 3D acceleration :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
Sounds like you need to do some more reading.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dyetheskin:
more like tons of reading since there are requirements needed to make it work and some of these requirements aren't available yet
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] morethanlife:
Hello there!

My first Post on the Forum

I saw that the Toshiba Protégé G810 has the same processor as the HTC Kaiser,Nike and more...

How is it possible that this thing runs so damn good ?

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=fQIZu_WYJ7g

Here is the Device Info :

http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1124

Maybe this thing helps in porting some Drivers?

Greets

Dan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] b16b:
i have the new D3D Drivers ver. (22 July) i don't if is new or including only the test..

but i can't read the Text3D

have anyone do this test?

i have germin dk2 rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] variosteph:
not working - net cf cooked in rom

onyl thing that works ist DLL Checker,

d3d demo, lights, text3d and triangle gives error message.

i think it´s a problem with the net cf 3.5 cooked in rom,

i can´t install net cf over the existing one, got error message.

i´m using tejaks V5:

"xip and sys from new build ATT 19214

OEM from official HTC shipped german rom with updated driver from 19214 build"

steph

keep up the good work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Monrad:
That video made my TYTN II look really bad :D I mean... it's working faster than ever... and it still feels like a turtle when comparing to that toshiba. Mmmhh... I'm considering not to buy from HTC ever again since Diamond felt slow too when I used it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bratag:
Looks to me that review was 90% about spb mobile shell, not the Device so much. Have you tried the features on the Kaiser? I agree however it did look speedy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kostas244:
Did you notice the internet explorer scroll??? Amazing!!!!!:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
You know, Menneisyys never followed up with this beyond getting names. It's way past June for that ODM to have produced something, so sounds like this wasn't very serious, and all HTC-style fluff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tcfanboy:
I hate when companies use this psychological method.. When everything is

crap at first you get interested. You seek solutions and wait every day for the

drivers. Hating the company more and more every day. When it finally

releases the drivers you are ready to do what ever it takes to get them. And

you fall in love with the company again. It has your trust and you buy its

products and be happy about it, as well as advertise it to others. And the

Windows Vista appears and you are pretty much tucked. Speaking of vista I

am just trying to make an example of businesses already using the strategy.

HTC is learning, which is a good thing. And drivers will eventually come up.

But guys, don't believe a company that just scam you. Stay with a mac - it

can all you want. Or Linux. Linux is cool.

P.S. To all simple minded, I didn't mean "buy an iPhone", it is not such a

good device, but what i tried to say is that all it is, is just a marketing

strategy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajmagi:
are you DAY DREAMING???

XDA-Dev may will be the source for the driver or someone will eat shoes!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Stay away from the meth dude. HTC had nothing to do with the KaiserGL drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Qualcomm job postings

Noticed this. Isn't Qualcomm so strong in 3D and drivers already, why would they looking to hire?

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Requisition #	G1767568

Job Title	3D Graphics Drivers Software Engineer (Boulder, Colorado)

In this position, you will develop 2D and 3D graphics drivers for a new generation of mobile graphics cores. While this position requires a strong emphasis on graphics, we are also looking for a candidate that can apply their abilities in other embedded SW areas.

=====
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Interesting, but irrelevant. Maybe somebody left so they're replacing the position.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tcfanboy:
Really? hmm.. anyway you get them. for the next purchase you are still pretty sure someone will do something about any problem that occurs. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Hey Samsung Omnia drivers, albeit software based (although so is the existing OpenGL ATI drivers) and supposedly XSCALE optimized, is faster than the HTC-CA D3D drivers, has working text draws, and only dependant on fast DirectDraw implementation (meaning HTC WM6.1 and after for us Kaiser/Tilt/MDA Vario III users).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vj4:
Ok tested on l26 v10 TL its working lights i feel ran slower but everything else works fine will test more and post back with day to day use
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Anybody notice this 800x480 device from Qualcomm -- a 8250?

http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultsoflogin.jsp?login=qct_rsu&benchmark=glpro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dantegl36:
FPSEce (anyone try the drivers with this yet?)

If this has been brought up in the past I apologize. I ran this program(FPSEce) on my Kaiser before the addition of the 3d drivers. I would like to give this a try again, but before I go through the process of rounding up the needed files to rip a playstation disk I figured I would ask if someone has tried this? Thanks in advance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
It works (0.96) with or without driver, omnia or KaiserGL. The development seems to be stopped (a pity) and it relies on software rendering. The last version has a 2700G targeted driver included or something, but has no effects on speed on our kaisers. I've got 15-30 fps, which is almost OK for RPG games, but forget platorm or arcade games.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dantegl36:
Dude I want FF7 quality on my Kaiser. I'll wait for the development to continue :) Thanks for the info and update :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
More results that look like it's an X1, Sony?:

http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultsoflogin.jsp?login=fewquid&benchmark=glpro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aksd:
Yep thats a SE X1 :D. Was looking at that as well :D. Nobody has run the Touch Pro thorugh its paces it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
I have Garmin dk.2.full rom and I am using omnia D3D drivers instead of htc ca because the samsung drivers are obviously much better and when testing with the D3D tester apps everything works perfect and much smoother then htc ca drivers...I suggest u all go to software section,uninstall htc drivers and try the omnia ones...videos look richer and tcpmp with directdraw looks great. The text3D even is visibleworks fine...u can actually see the text its not fuzzy like with htc drivers so get omnia drivers and see for urself...its been tested to be almost 20-25 PERCENT better with GL benchmark results..its not perfect but much better then htc ca drivers,its really starting to get their, and i see video quality is greatly improved i cant stop watching youtube and avis wiith my tilt is amazing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Optimization documentation:

http://www.brew-development.net/brew_bnry/pdf/events/brew_2005/t303_durnil_qualcomm.pdf

http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/brew_2006/progpc21_dorbie_3dgraphics.pdf

http://www.brew-development.net/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Prog-401_Dorbie_v05.pdf
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ycavan:
Gah... Brew is such a pita... It's been a while, but I now notice that you have to agree to not develop any applications for MSM7200 chipset terminals for use in the USA? also before installing the opengles extensions, make sure you have brew sp1 installed. ;)

Also, notice that the first pdf states that brew's implementation of opengl es is "software rendering"?

I'll dl the module & look at it...

Edit:

Now I remember why I hate BREW... it creates .dll's that can be run inside the brew simulator.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Bah, move past that to the actual useful info in there. It's about as close as we can get to actual guidance for how to program on the hardware.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jorra:
I was playing around with the different d3d and opengl test proggies the other day, fun as always to see that smooth graphics with the CA drivers and frustrating at the same time... But that's not why I'm posting.

When I was done playing around I left the phone running a texture test (I forgot to end the program) and made a cup of coffee... When I went back to the table where I left the phone about 10 min later I saw the test program still running so I picket up the phone and it was hot as hell. 5 seconds later it made a cute little sound and then went dead. I couldn't start the phone so I thought I bricket it, but it started after a couple of minutes cooling down.

I just thought that this could be the reason for HTC not to release the drivers, they know it will overheat so they removed the hardware acc 3d driver and released the phone anyways...

Could this be something or is my device just f**** up???

edit:

I haven't tried it again cause I don't think it's healthy to overheat my beloved one...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Monrad:
You have a point, it could be one of the reasons.

I see it coming... heatsink mod anyone? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NeoS:
it's not for kaiser, but i don't want you guys to miss this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69_6zgIZLaU

It IS hardware rendered. Lights.exe shows 3D T&L and raster and it does exactly the same as in the video. (but it's smooth, like manila)

I'm trying to figure out what causes the glitching.

Another video showing lights.exe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMYnI23JB4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Vlasticek:
HTC Touch Pro DirectX and OpenGL drivers

Hi, I am a beginner and I just ask whether it is possible to find somewhere OpenGL and DirectX drivers for mobile phone HTC Touch Pro.

I tried to install the drivers for HTC mobile TYTN2 but stopped work after the restart.

Thank you for your ideas and I apologize for a little talk outside the topic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GLO:
Sorry to ask this question but, what is preferred D3D or OpenGL ES?

I dont game but do want smoother videos.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JeckyllHavok:
If the phone overheats maybe this will help:

Would look cool on the back of our phones:D:D:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
Time to install the freeware TCPMP

Neither because the default media player doesn't use either of those methods of acceleration. Whats required for smooth video isn't in the latest drivers and may well never arrive (but we live in hope). I use my Kaiser alot for video playback and I've found that installing TCPMP and using videos of DivX AVI type about 370 kbps seems to play very smoothly. The default Windows Pocket Media Player 10.03 is a total resource hog and WMVs play very slowly on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BumAround:
..And how do I do this, please?

How can I replace the HTC driver (D3D) with that of the Omnia's? thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mosskit:
Can I install omnia graphic drivers on my HTC Raphael ?? Does it gonna work ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Maybe ask the Raphael people.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jorra:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jorra:
Just install the omnia cab file. No need to uninstall anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Nvidia Chip !!!

What is This :confused: (Nvidia Chip)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM|GDI\Drivers

Display : NVDDDI.DLL

MainDisplay : NVDDDI.DLL
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I-mate Ultimate 6150 and nvidia 5500 Chip

I have I-mate Ultimate 6150(nvidia 5500 Chip). in TCPMP and using videos of Mpg1(VCD) type Upto 1400 kbps seems to play Ultra smooth.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] empy16:
So that's it? Is the project abbandoned? I'm still not satisfied with crappy 10fps on Q3 (using drivers from HTCClassaction. My friend with crappy nokia can do much better...

Please tell me, that something's still going on...