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[Android Head-Units] gersrt:
Unfortunately with 97 views so far, no one can/will answer my questions.

I'm afraid to buy any unit at the moment until I get advice.

Suppose the question I should ask is for 250-300 dollars what's the best unit one can buy?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
That's how I feel. I've think I've ruled out the indash from the thread it seems there are a lot of bugs. The joying seems to be the most popular but not enough feed back from real world experience.
[Android Head-Units] nomailing:
I am also still waiting and cannot decide which one to buy. I definitely want a unit which has Android 5.1 and is compatible with MTCD units so that I can flash Malaysk's ROM.

For me the question is, should I wait for 2GB RAM or not? Who knows how long we have to wait for that?
[Android Head-Units] mainebluedevil:
I'm in the same boat, so unfortunately, I don't have any answers to help either.

InDash is a good $150 more, but the internal components are much better. It seems to me the biggest issue with that unit is the software, so there are opportunities to fix those bugs. The community is smaller, but there is hope.

But is hope worth $150 bucks?
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
doctorman on here is a Joying reseller or something. He's pretty good at answering stuff. I sent him an email about a different question, and I got an Out of Office reply. Said he would be back Tuesday i think. So just wait a day or so, and I'm sure he'll give you the rundown.

as the others have said, In-Dash has way better hardware specs, but it is new, and those bugs can be fixed, but at the same time, they haven't sold that many units. In the In-Dash thread, people's order numbers were like #15, and they seemed to be somewhat sequential. So at some point they may decide they are not selling enough units to make it worthwhile to keep working on the software.

Pumpking and Joying have been in business for a long time, so they have more reasons to keep working on the software. Also check out RoadNavi.com, they have a pretty active forum, and a thread on here for the S160. Seems like support is pretty good.
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Roadnavi website been down all day. Pumpking seems to have the most users or reviews that are positive on amazon...
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
You can't get to http://www.roadnavi.com/product-category/indash-navigation-system/s160-android/ ?
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Installed the joying so far i like it.

Had to trim my bezel so not sure if it's actually true din size.

Bluetooth speakerphone using the radio builtin mic works pretty good, just as good as my pioneer. Call voice comes through passenger side speaker only and haven't found an option to charge that.

You Tube, Facebook, gmail, gmaps, igo, SiriusXM and waze work well

Reverse Cam looks good

LCD actually suprizingly works very good even in day light. Nice and Brite.

It's locked up on me maybe twice that I can recall. No big deal. Response and speed overall is good.

Very happy so far.

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One other thing. Radio reception is horrible. With the fm amplifier is a bit better but not much

Here some images. .
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
Nice, I just ordered the Jeep specific Joying unit
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
Is that how yours looks with the default Joying 5.1 ?

I just got the Jeep Specific one and mine looks different:
[Android Head-Units] Airborne29th:
My understanding is the Jeep specific one is not Android 5.1.1, its only 4.4. your GUI will look different from his. Has anyone gotten 5.1.1 to work on the Jeep specific one? I have been waiting for confirmation from Candy at Joying that the Universal 5.1.1 Head unit they have will fit and work with Canbus in the Jeep.. I've heard/read that the hardward in the 5.1.1 version is better for sound quality.. that and the DSP. I could be wrong though??
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
Mine is 5.1, at least that is what is says it is. The 5.1 is not on the Joying website yet, but it is on the Amazon Joying page, and Joying said it was legit:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IB8V2AO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And if you go to the Car Joying website, and look at the "Android 5.1 Car stereo" section across the top, there is a drop down menu that shows Jeep Android 5.1 Car Stereo:

https://www.carjoying.com/android-5-1-car-stereo/jeep-android-5-1-car-stereo.html

It just doesn't show up yet.

But I think I found the answer to the interface. I looked at their blog and there are 3 to 4 updates to the Android 5.1 versions, and one says "Date: Apr 30, 2016 - NEW UI Interface for android 5.1.1 lollipop"

https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/42.html

I'm going to try those this week
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
Well, I was wrong above again. Looks like I have a current MCU, shows June 2016. Not sure how to get the interface. I emailed Joying to see what they say.
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
So been using it for two weeks and I am VERY happy with it. If you have a hot spot it's just like using your phone.

Some notes for those of you that have the unit to help with install.

I connected the antenna amplifier (Optional) to the Blue labeled antenna power output on the radio.

I thought the GPS and Home buttons did not illuminate but they do. You have to connect the illumination wire (Orange with White Stripe) to 12V Acc or to your cars illumination wire and the buttons light up. They transition into different colors not sure how to change that yet.

Video player does not work (Safety feature) Not sure if grounding the brake wire will bypass this.

The iGo software for GPS is fantastic, I do get GPS signal lost periodically, we have had bad weather lately so not sure whats up with that yet

Key 1 - Key 2 mystery - I have the axxess ASWC steering wheel adapter. Connecting Key 1 or Key 2 to the pink wire (cut the connector off the axxess) and I am able to setup the Steering wheel controls Vol +, Vol - and Mute. Nothing else works (2007 NBS Silverado). Still messing with that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I think I need to manually program the Axxess Radio selection to a HU that matches the Joying. I read somewhere that Pioneer is the best match. The Axxess unit worked fine with my previous Pioneer HU.

Sub woofer output is a single mono port, needed a Y-Adapter to connect to my Sub-AMP.

Touch screen response is actually pretty good - requires a little pressure to respond.

FM radio reception is crappy - Even with the amp (Little better) - Haven't tried AM yet.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
do you have an option to allow it in Car Settings or something like that? Mine did
[Android Head-Units] splxtreme:
I just got mine. I'm still wiring up the amps, but so far I can tell... The radio sounds like a low bit rate mp3. I don't listen to the radio a whole lot, so not entirely a big deal. Anything other than the radio seems to sound fine. Need to do more testing. The built in amp seems OK but don't expect a lot of output without distortion once the volume gets past 80 percent.

If I can fine tune the sound a bit more I'm sure I'll keep this thing. It is pretty cool what you can do with it.
[Android Head-Units] -uniQ-:
Sorry. I have not been on this part of forums in a while.

I have a joying HU. Im pretty sure every HU owner (Joying or not will agree that android HU are good) so I will just tell you about a few of my bad points.

My car is a Mazda3

I did not buy a car specific HU so i got a universal one because of the better specs, so I got the wiring harness with it also.

They did not provide me with a CANBUS so that I can use the LCD screen of my car (which shows time etc).

Another problem I had was that initially when I conntected the head unit I could not hear any sound. Apparently it was due to some blue ant wire or something needing to be connected to the amp. So the local shop done that.

I also was given the rear view camera but I have not installed that. Again this is because I do not have the CANBUS for the car so I cannot be bothered taking the wire from back of the car to the front.

Joying did say they will tell me when the CANBUS is available but due to lack of communication and language barrier I have not been able to find out.

Other than that the HU is great and would recommend it to anyone.
[Android Head-Units] cruizin01:
Installed the OP unit in my BRZ last evening.

Need to figure out how to update the interface.

The unit actually works slightly better than I was expecting as far as the touch screen and speed.

The colors are a little washed out on the display but its ok.

The problem I'm having is the same as the other thread in here about the Bluetooth. It doesn't pair with certain devices and when it does pair it crashes the app trying to turn the Bluetooth on.

Trying to get a resolution from Joying..
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Settings > Car Settings > Driving

There is an option to disable the video block.

Also the button LEDs can be changed in Factory Settings. The password is 126.

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I'm going to start another thread since there is a lot of questions out there about steering wheel control interface. Here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/android-auto/android-head-units/joying-jy-ul124-hu-steering-wheel-t3436369
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
You can adjust the LED Colors in Settings . Wicked nice!

Under Settings -> Car -> Factory Settings you can also set when the buttons light up. I just set them to when the unit is powered up.

Today I lost all my radio presets. This is the 2nd time this has happened. Anyone have a fix for this?

NBD because I barely use FM.
[Android Head-Units] Phredeee:
I had a Joying 5.1 unit I couldn't live with for a number of reasons. The poor finish (It had excess glue everywhere and no protective film on the bezel). It had very poor phone audio quality thru the front right only and much more wrong. It took $150 to return ship the unit to them. All and all it was a horrible experience and I'm still searching for a head unit. Someday I may write a review.
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
I bought mine from the US reseller so far i love it. Build quality is OK and what was expected from China. Not sure what glue your talking about?
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
i got mine on Amazon from Joying. I think the build quality is fantastic.
[Android Head-Units] Roy360:
I'm thinking about getting my hands on a eonon unit.

I was looking at joying too, but the reviews about radio and Bluetooth quality turned me away. Still not 100% sure which model to get.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
I had a good experience emailing back and forth with Eonon while I was making my decision. And I have seen multiple positive comments about them on various forums. They just didn't have a vehicle specific unit for my year of Jeep.

My Joying looks great and stock

I do not have any issues with Bluetooth music/audio streaming, sounds crystal clear.

Bluetooth phone calls are a little weird. All the audio comes out of one speaker. Seems to be common for Joying, not sure if that is the case with all Android units or just Joying.

I don't listen to FM radio, but I did hook it up to test it and it sounded fine. I think some of those negative comments were based on the older units
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
so if you do a return to Amazon they still want you pay shipping? Did you get it with Amazon Prime?
[Android Head-Units] Phredeee:
I am a prime Amazon member. The unit shipped in from China and Joying required I ship it back there at my expense. They wanted this even if it was an exchange.

It came DHL and that is how it went back. They were the cheapest I found. Then there were issues in Chinese customs. All I could find out from DHL is that Joying need to supply some documentation on that end and were not responding. I'm not familiar with international shipping or Chinese customs to know exactly what was happening. They only way I knew anything was wrong was by checking the tracking daily and seeing no change for 5 days then calling DHL.

I filed a claim with Amazon and Joying refunded the purchase price. Then I dropped the claim. I'm not sure where the unit actually ended up. This was after Joying said they wanted me to get the package returned shipped to me from China then ship it to them again a different way. This would have put the shipping charges to me way over the purchase price. Joying did not specify how to return ship before this.

I complained to a few people at Amazon about having to pay return shipping on a Prime purchase. They finally granted a promotional credit that can only be used on things sold and shipped by Amazon. Still, for that amount of shipping it's a win. But it was not easy.

At the end of it all my expense is only a new set of mounting brackets for the OEM radio that I had to mod to get the Joying unit to fit. But it was a HUGE PITA.

I offered to replace the bezel myself if Joying would supply one. They were not interested. I still wonder if the incredibly poor call quality could have been solved. I'm not a fan of one speaker but could have lived with it if there was not so much distortion that I could have understood the caller.

I'm new in Android heads, not Android or head units just together, so is the Phone function handled by separate hardware? Seems there has to be something soft there to handle the A2DP stuff?? The Contact list was also an unreadable mess with no spaces or symbols. I would have hoped to have been able the select call from my Google contacts like any phone.
[Android Head-Units] Chrislee1125:
So good product as i see
[Android Head-Units] Roy360:
If it was fulfilled by Amazon, it would have shipped from the USA. You also wouldn't have interacted with the seller AT ALL if it was a Prime purchase. Unless Amazon.com operates differently from Amazon.ca I I don't think you purchased a radio that was fulfilled by Amazon.

Also Prime has nothing to do with anything. I just gives you no minimum free shipping (and its supposedly faster)
[Android Head-Units] Phredeee:
I didn't claim it was fulfilled by Amazon, not sure why you think I did. FWIW, I purchased the first one of these models offered on Amazon.

The A to Z claim against third party sellers is handled by Amazon for Prime Members.
[Android Head-Units] Roy360:
Ahh okay. In that case I'm not sure what you were expecting. Buying from 3rd party Amazon is LIKE buying something off eBay. (Ie. Don't expect any customer support) I'm surprised you got your shipping refunded.
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Man - You had some real issues! I purchased from the US reseller and BOTH my units arrived nicely packed. The reseller is on this forum and responds to all emails and PM's so far. I have none of the issues you have indicated. The build quality is GOOD but not GREAT but more than what I expected. The biggest issue I have is the FM reception is not very good even with the amplifier. Also I could not get all my steering controls to work but enough work to make it acceptable. It's probably the combination of the Axxess Interface and Steering wheel adapter. I tried a PAC adapter with NO success.
[Android Head-Units] Phredeee:
I knew there was a lot of risk before I ordered it. What I was naive about was the price of shipping it back to China and how difficult Chinese customs would be. I had researched Joying, read many reviews and thought the quality and performance would have been better. They seemed very attentive and accommodating before the sale. Afterwards, not so much. Lesson learned. Future purchases will be of a disposable type only.

Now, I'm still searching for an Android head unit but have now found a dash plate so a standard DD unit will work. Actually, I'm looking for two for two different vehicles. I would love to do my third but there is no way technically on the third one.

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I had read about weak FM and also some weak WiFi. Both of those performed very well on the unit I had. The steering wheel buttons ('12 Toyota RAV4) also worked well with the stock apps.

It sounds like the opposite of what you have. :silly:

Maybe the US reseller would like to chime in?
[Android Head-Units] Blovesx:
I'm owner of the JY-135 universal unit for a week and what can I say.

1. Difference in old radio and this one when it comes to music is like heaven and hell. Of course probably because of my poor original speakers the sound/bass is bad when I go over 50% volume. I should probably buy another speakers? I'm not audiophile so I don't know if this changes anything if I change only speakers.

2. OBD is working with some problems (probably only in my car not 100% sure - talking about connectivity, later on it works without problems).

3. Youtube is working fine in FullHD, movies without stuttering etc.

4. As I though this unit lacks 1 GB of ram but either way it's working pretty nice (talking about multiple task). I'm used to my Sony Z3 with a lot of bookmarks opened in chrome that's why.

5. Radio is working fine, of course it's losing waves as every radio's out there.

6. No problems with bluetooth connectivity, addresses etc. (phone calls - right speaker only works not sure why but you can hear pretty good.) Microphone from box is good.

7. Music is **** - orginally installed program so you just have to download something else that allows you to pick music to play from folders.

Overall this head unit is working fine for me. You just have to know you can't do much with 1 GB of ram. That's the only 1 big minus.

I've seen up there in this thread someone was talking about screen being dim while driving. Yes, the screen is dimmed automatically when you light the beam headlamps. Never tried to do anything about this yet but if you have daylights it won't affect you because if you're driving on daylights the screen is all the time bright.

If you have any questions ask me so I can check and get back to you.
[Android Head-Units] tahoe916:
Has anyone used the Car DVR function? I have an older Pioneer right now with a backup cam. I would like to replace it with one of their 5.1.1 models. I'm interested in getting another cam for the front and using it as a Car DVR which it says it does with a USB cam. If anyone has use it I would love to know how it works. Does it do rolling recording and automatically start when you start driving? Or do you need to fire it up every time you get in the car?
[Android Head-Units] jack880:
Do you all have the same issue that Mr Metalhead describes below, with the unit being unusable during a call? Or can you use other apps etc during a call? Thanks
[Android Head-Units] dynamite647:
I will test the Bluetooth with others apps and let you know and also will try the DVR, right now my DVR is independent!
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
My unit started booting dead slow after installing and using Pandora. Pandora seems to auto start and probably call home and if my hot spot isn't on or i have a bad connection it boots sooooo slow. I took Pandora and a few other apps off auto start. Now the unit boots up completely within 25 sec.

I haven't had any issues with the phone app works good.
[Android Head-Units] dynamite647:
Ok so I just tested the bluetooth feature and found following:

When in a call (whether outgoing/incoming) you can't use the system, basically you will see any running app or main screen in background but wont be able to do anything unless call ends. For me that is good feature as while during a call I don't need to use the system but I will need to check it tomorrow and see if it disables an on-going navigation. Also with this feature it temp disables radio/music until call ends. Maybe a 3rd party bluetooth apps solves this for people who want to use different apps during a call.
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Yes sir the radio is in a lock mode when on bt speaker phone. Not sure about the gps.
[Android Head-Units] Phredeee:
The stock DVR software supplied with my 5.1.1 unit did not start up automatically. I installed a different software (CaroO) that did. The Joying USB camera I was using does not have audio if that matters to you.

I though having a DVR that required you to manually start it every time you got in the car was useless.

HTH
[Android Head-Units] jack880:
Thanks, appreciate the responses.

I haven't yet managed to find a 3rd party bluetooth dialler app - all dialler apps seem to use a built in phone module rather than connecting to a bluetooth phone. Also, the "Remove Default" option on the stock dialler is greyed out...
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
i am going to try this. What did you use for AutoStart? The tool with Malaysk? or something ES Task Killer?
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
I have to be completely honest with you when I ordered my unit it came already rooted with all the goodies loaded so I'm not sure what type of auto start is installed I assumed it was native to Android because I found it in the settings menu. I do recall him saying that he would load the custom ROM for me I have to check and verify.
[Android Head-Units] Sphynx0:
I was looking to buy one. But saw today that a 2gb ram and intel chip unit is cumming out ! Let´s see if it's reliable..
[Android Head-Units] DarkFoxDK:
You should give Tablet Talk a try. Alternatively, mySMS also does remote dialling.
[Android Head-Units] Flemischguy:
Hi, where did you see that? Do you have a link?

Thx :)
[Android Head-Units] Cid6.7:
Would also like a link
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68800239&postcount=38
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
Well.. Been about 2 months. Front left audio is out and I am hearing lots of distortion on the sub channel. Going to rip the dash apart Sunday or Monday and will update.
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
Xda is fantastic with so many off topic and thread hijacking posts.
[Android Head-Units] Sphynx0:
Here it is !

Posted on joying facebook page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCoQ1WoQ8rA&feature=youtu.be

In the comments joying said " the chip not rockchip RK3188, it Intel.﻿"
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
http://xdaforums.com/show...9&postcount=38

Discussion here.
[Android Head-Units] Sphynx0:
Error, page not found..
[Android Head-Units] aplusmiami:
It's amazing and frustrating that these manufacturers don't see the potential of releasing a unit with good technical documentation and the units completely open for development. I would pay more for this knowing that there is a strong community behind the hardware. The hardware issues are tolerated but rarely solved. Like the FM tuner is practically useless. Why not fix it In the next version? That's what you get when dealing with these Chinese units.
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68800239&postcount=38

New threads have since emerged.

http://xdaforums.com/android-auto/m...opment/2gb-ram-intel-cpu-heres-specs-t3468322
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tooandrew:
am i all set to just flash cm13 through recovery, or do i need to downgrade firmware and modem or something?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vampire137:
No need. Just make sure you backup your efs and radio because you need it if you want to go back to Touchwiz ROMs. Otherwise, you won't be able to call or use any sort of network options on your phone. EFS is super important. Make a backup, flash cm13. Whenever you wanna go back to stock, restore efs and radio with recovery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tooandrew:
what is entailed in backing up efs and radio? like, will a full nandroid cut it? or, a modem nandroid specifically?

EDIT: nevermind, searching is my friend.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vampire137:
Yes a full nandroid backup will backup your efs too, but have an individual backup on your phone and on your PC all the time. Believe me, you're gonna be very happy someday when you need it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bdap:
please help me my mda vario is stuck in boot loader mode

(red blue and green going across the screen) please help!!!:o