yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] pika456:
I guess nobody tried this watch yet.

If I find anything I'll tell you
[Other SmartWatches] jalsing:
I received this watch as well. The OS seems very limited, as compared to reviews I see for the eg DZ09. The notifications don't pull down, the icons can't be arranged, and if you try to reply to an SMS from the notification the keyboard does not appear. I've successfully performed a readback and created a backup using the readback extractor by Golem_ but I can't get any other firmware to work (boot sound but then nothing on the screen)

I would love to be able to load a different rom to get the full functioning OS, it seems odd to be stripped down like it is considering it appears to have the full 128Mb NOR Flash and the newer MTK6260A CPU.
[Other SmartWatches] pika456:
did you try to change any of the watchfaces?
[Other SmartWatches] jalsing:
Yes I tried but none of the watchfaces were in the resource dump of the ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Camrose:
My cell (Samsung galaxy core) charges extremely slow.......... The charging symbol shows its charging but takes forever. I'm not a techie so simple as possible explanation or suggestion would sure be appreciated. I've removed the battery and cleaned the posts as well as disabling or uninstalling unnecessary apps and files. TIA
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Manu777:
Have you tried using a different cable or charger aswell as another electric plug? It most likely is the hardware.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] energy59:
Morning alla from italy.

Is possible install on x7500 Htc Home Customizer?

How is needed for working this nice interface developed bye Emunutz?

Thanks in advance... and bye
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] shortyboy:
got it working fine on my x7501
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmeadows013:
I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?

Thanks
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techjunky90:
If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lorka.Tinou:
I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).

I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.

A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverblack:
Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradleyw801:
There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.

http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/

Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/

I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flipside101:
just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derern:
As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sub-Negro:
I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QuillzToxic:
Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverblack:
Surprised nobody has mentioned this.

https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhd1802:
not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same

the new rear layout

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-

View attachment 3991854

the old layout

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

View attachment 3991855
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverblack:
It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.

Lost the Sd card slot now.

Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammarbella:
Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.

"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sub-Negro:
Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wishmaster2:
HDMI port is now 2.0b

And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakkaday:
does the original not have 2.0b
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg

i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.

going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babyshanks:
Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.

On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wishmaster2:
Thanks for the info. I didn't see, that there are two different spec-sheets.

Yes, looks like only the pro version has the IR receiver. :(
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakkaday:
so what is the difference between the new and old models? are there any significant
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babyshanks:
Mainly the size (and the standard version lost the micro sd card which is pretty significant if you don't want to use a usb drive for expanded storage). New sets also feature the new controller and remote, which can be purchased separately and are compatible with the superseded design. The superseded iterations will get an update with all the features of the new designs. So if you already have one, no point in upgrading unless size is a concern. If you want google assistant, when it eventually becomes available on it, you'll have to get the new controller.

Edit: The one thing I've been wondering though is if they've upgraded the hd in the pro version to an ssd. Maybe getting rid of the loudness of the original
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Codename_Falcon:
It looks like Wifi direct has been removed from the new models. The new remote and controller must use Bluetooth.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NiHaoMike:
The remote has always been Bluetooth. I wonder if they're going to continue using their proprietary wireless audio codec or if they're going to switch to the vastly inferior standard Bluetooth codec.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steel01:
From the work I've done with the current wireless controller, I can say the audio part is standard. Ozwpan is used to connect the controller wirelessly like a standard USB device. Then it uses the hda audio codec, I believe. Works as is with Linux, no special audio stuff needed at all. Side note, the new models still support these controllers.

I haven't got my hands on the new controller yet, but from what I'm hearing and everything I can see, it's all standard Bluetooth. I don't know about quality because I've never used BT audio. However, if it all really is standard, then supporting it in custom ROMs and such will be brain dead simple. Like, probably only needing a keylayout, if that.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solidsnake02:
Just got my tracking for the Best Buy Pre-order, it will be here tomorrow! I can't wait to crack it open and see what it can do.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
yeah I've seen the spec sheets omg that is dumb, not sure i want one now tbh but at the same time I wait for feedback and then I can't order it anymore like the older version when they stopped making it and the scalpers had the rest of the stock, could this thing really work well with just a usb hard drive or stick?

it's misleading because Amazon put the picture of the new model and people will think it's for all versions when it's not.

did you order the standard or pro? if you can share some feeback when you get it and how come you get it so early? it comes out around 16th jan in the uk.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
If your willing to have sloppy seconds, you can probably still grab the older version off Fleebay for ~100$. Probably your last chance. Seeing as when the floodgates open, (If they haven't already!) And people start realizing that this isn't the "Update" they were looking for. I suspect the market for the original version will skyrocket.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluefoam:
Its the update allot of people were looking for... TBH, power users will go for the pro version. I'm happy to go for the standard option... If I need extra storage in the future, I'll add a USB. The original version have been going on Amazon for an inflated price over the past few weeks... so doubt whether you'll really find a bargain... plus you'd have to splash out for a new controller if you want to use the AI functions... I don't know why people get so worked up by this stuff... It's good that tech companies are taking a long term view of their products and providing incremental upgrades... I'm sure Nvidia have lots of data on how the machines are used & have removed features accordingly.

Mines' on pre order... can't wait!
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
I'd say that argument would have worked for the IR Port. But removing the SD Card was just downright a stupid bonehead move, on their part.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
it already did, the original plus the pro version is selling for £300 on amazon, hence my previous post about the scalpers.

lol i wish they were £100 but they are not.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solidsnake02:
I ordered the standard so it's only about 4 days early. I'll definitely get back on here tonight or tomorrow to share feedback with everyone!
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
Thus why you need to look on FleeBay... aka eBay there was a flood of 'em on there last Month ranging from 120€ ~ 199€* new from a well known German Retailer.

AFAIK they were averaging roughly about a 150€* (used) there.

You also have the option to scour the eBay Personal Ads, where if your not careful you just might find a few Bargains.

I however did, managed to snag, what I had thought to be (At the time), one the last Pro's off of Amazon, for about 225€'s for what it was, was acceptable. The Device was clean and scuff free. Though it was missing the HDMI Cable though I didn't count that as a total loss. As I have plenty of HDMI Cables from other Android Boxes

*16Gb. The Pro was averaging more about the 225€ ~ 250€ range.

Just having a quickish shufti through FleeBay, and if anything they seem to have taken a bit of a dive. With One currently sitting at 60€'s with One Day left. --Yes it probably will get a bit higher before the end.-- but, there you have it.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverblack:
I just sold mine for £150 with remote only no controller.That was £50 more than i paid for it 1 year ago.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
i would have brought that off you too.

i'll have a look on ebay so thanks for that.

just had a quick look, average price of £200 or more for just the old 16gb model, and they are trying to flog the new 16gb 2017 model for £350, ouch! no savings there that is for sure lol

cex prices are no better and not available in my local area anyway,
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
Try searching eBay.de, or *.ie barring that .com (US).
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
i don't purchase overseas, import tax is a issue over here.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
What VAT? IIRC you mentioned eBay.co.uk right?

Well untill your PM actually triggers Art. 50 you're still a part of Europe, and you DO NOT have to pay any TAX in any second Hand Sale that I'm aware of. And I've ordered enough stuff 'cross Europe. Otherwise you'd have to pay, the local (Host Country VAT) for first sold goods. As I found out when I wanted to buy a replacement Screen for my first (dead) Samsung Tab Pro 8.4. Which was 21% (From the Netherlands).

For my part I tend to avoid UK sellers NOT for any Tax / VAT issues, but rather the exorbitant shipping costs from British Post.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
no this;

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/overview

and i agree the overseas shipping can be expensive too.

add to that you won't get a warranty with importing something from overseas so it breaks you are sol
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
In all fairness >Implying that you'll even have a Warranty on a used Product...

I suppose that's the risk.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amd4life:
I am kicking myself for not buying another old version with the SD card. I don't want the 2016 pro version with the 500gb just to get an SD card slot.

I wonder if you will be able to root and side load apps through the USB port. It will be hard to connect to the PC( one USB port), connect a keyboard(one USB port) and a mouse??? and have the files somewhere to push to the system without that sd slot
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
see my topic about it here;

https://xdaforums.com/shield-tv/help/q-current-root-method-shield-tv-t3538918/post70579721

this is my concern too as the micro sd card slot is gone now.

i'm concerned also about the fact that we will be forced to buy a pro version to be able to root, this is why i have held off buying any type of shield for now till the situation is more clear.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...confusing-for-consumers/post/5056066/#5056066 nvidia confirmed you will be able to use a male to male usb3 cable for adbshell on a pc
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
yes we know we can use that it's the twrp that is the concern to get the root files over, can the usb be used to do that?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
if i recall correctly in twrp theirs a setting for otg file transfer. i use it to transfer files to the system directories then flash on my S4.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
Sans the removal of such features / functions (e.g. IR Port, MicroSD Slot, Micro USB (OtG)) the 2017 Shield TV will be 100% Software compatible with the 2015 version. Thus is the reason why 2015 Owners will come off the better of these Two. As eventually when the nVida Spot drops this will pretty much be the only thing missing. As both the 2017 Controller, and Remote are also downgrades. (on Paper). i.e. no USB recharging. Bluetooth over WiFi Direct. etc..
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
i found the setting its called MTP, enable that while in the twrp and connect your sheild via usb to a pc, you will have R/W access to the download folder. put your supersu.zip in that then you may have to reboot it back into twrp for it to show up
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steel01:
I'll be getting the new emmc model within a week or two, then I'll make sure adb in twrp works over the male to male cable. It might work as is, but I can't guarantee that right now.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
You can root, install twrp and sideload apps just fine.

One of your USB ports gets disabled when you enable ADB. You can ADB over network to push flashable zip files and sideload apk files.

When you are in fastboot you need controller plugged into USB slot next to HDMI cable to navigate through menu and the other USB port needs to be attached to computer with USB cable.

*edit^

USB keyboard does not work in fastboot. Must use gamepad to navigate.

Works fine and must use gamepad to navigate through menu...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
have you tested all of this yourself on the new 2017 model?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
Yes I have.

Well besides root and flashing the custom recovery. Booted into the custom recovery without flashing it. Waiting for the restore images to show up before doing any mods...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
thanks for letting us know, good news.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
No prob. Feel free to ask whatever questions anyone may have.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aVlkaFenryka:
[MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION]

How did you boot into custom recovery and flashed supersu?

As i listed in the other thread, i was not able to boot or flash TWRP after unlocking bootloader

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70588856&postcount=17
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonasgrosch:
Same problem for me. Booting into bootloader - no problem. Unlocking bootloader - no problem.

But trying to boot to TWRP or flashing it won't work. Whick version of TWRP did u use. Trying 3.0.2.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aVlkaFenryka:
I used the official TWRP

twrp-3.0.2-0-foster.img
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichijoe:
On the off chance do you have a 4k

FYI for whatever reason TWRP will NOT work on 4k Sets. Of this I can confirm. In short if you need a graphical UI than you'll have to move over to a FHD Set.

That said you should be able to install (e.g. flash TWRP 3.0.2...) via fastboot.

Then you'd either put your Shield into Recover, or adb reboot recovery. Make sure that you are again reconnected to adb then type:

$ twrp install /sdcard/SuperSU.zip

To install the SuperSU Package. Since this is my primary use for TWRP it is a PitA but, it has worked once I actually installed (i.e. flashed) it. My guess is if you just load it according to the directions here

Then TWRP will hang at the swipe to unlock Read Write permissions screen. And so will not fully load you into TWRP.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HUYI:
dam, but like the other guy said can you confirm if you are using a 4k tv? and is usb hubs detected in twrp?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
I booted using the fasboot boot twrpfilename.img

All I did was boot into the TWRP home screen. Didn't try to swipe to unlock for wanting to take no chance to mess up system with no restore images available yet.

Did not flash SU

1080p TV and not 4k.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aVlkaFenryka:
Before i used a 1440p Display, now a 1080p.

FLASH

I see regulary that info layer: "Your device software can't be checked for corruption. Please lock the bootloader." (Orange)

https://support.google.com/nexus/an...202724205116256-30111943&p=verified_boot&rd=1

https://i.imgsafe.org/e5be96a0ea.png

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb devices
List of devices attached
0324116125739 device

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb reboot bootloader

https://i.imgsafe.org/e5be7a0d75.jpg

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>fastboot devices
0324116125739 fastboot

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.0.2-0-foster.img
target reported max download size of 67108864 bytes
sending 'recovery' (22362 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.549s]
writing 'recovery'...
OKAY [ 0.938s]
finished. total time: 1.488s

The Shield TV says: "...Please Wait..." and after flash process completion it disappears

Reboot and got stuck on the nvidia logo screen for about 1-2 min, then auto reboot into system

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb reboot recovery

https://i.imgsafe.org/e5be8adcad.jpg

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb devices
List of devices attached

BOOT

C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb devices
List of devices attached
0324116125739 device
C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>adb reboot bootloader
C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>fastboot devices
0324116125739 fastboot
C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>fastboot boot twrp-3.0.2-0-foster.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.548s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.003s]
finished. total time: 0.552s
C:\Android SDK\platform-tools>

Reboot and got stuck on the nvidia logo screen for about 1-2 min, then auto reboot into system
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
i have the same issue its almost like its re flashing it self
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
How did you reboot?

In fastboot try fastboot reboot-bootloader and then enter recovery

It is. Android N security feature. If it finds any modifications it will repair itself. You must boot into recovery and flash SU before booting into system.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aVlkaFenryka:
"Directly to recovery via "boot recovery kernel" option in bootloader, but i did not reboot into bootloader again after a flashed TWRP to recovery partition

So bootloader -> flash TWRP -> reboot bootloader -> which way to recovery:confused:

I assume, the first reboot to system should be the one after flashing SU through TWRP?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
and then got stuck at the nivida logo and it repaired it to stock recovery.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidUser00110001:
Yes first reboot into system should be after flashing SU.

SU disables the security so custom recovery sticks.

Will be easier to figure out once Nvidia releases the restore images.

Sounds like we will need a modified boot.img before installing custom recovery and SU.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonb21:
didn't you manage to get into twrp? if so when u got into twrp did your green light turn off? i think i got in but my 2k monitor cant pick it up.