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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] ianmacd:
Actually, I don't know that. Can you point me to a source for this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] nano303:
Oh my gawd! ???
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
I see kinguser .. is it a modified version of kingoroot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] hella356:
Sunderwear, you'll be a hero if you get this working!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] mrbigdrawsz:
I'm assuming this is only for the first version, right? Got an updated version when I had to send in for warranty.

I'm on 3APD8.

Dis sum bull!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] UnixSlayer:
Mine was updated to PD8 when i took it to the Samsung Service center, without my permission. I even had the UrgentFWUpdate disabled. The tech turned it on, and updated it on me.

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] mrbigdrawsz:
Yeah, that's f'ed up. I love Samsung phone's but won't buy another one. Nexus only from now on.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] hella356:
I've been holding off buying an S7 until root was out. I wonder how critical the installed software version will be for this root technique, and what the current software version is of the phones sitting in T-Mobile stores?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] fazzix:
Jcase was soo negative about this root thing now it has been proven. Better developer has been found.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] brendan802:
I would choose words wisely when speaking of anyone that has given so much to the xda community. Have you ever taken a moment to see what he has done for android users and for free too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] gleggie:
How do I disable firmware / software updates in package disabler pro? I'm on vzw APD2 and want to stay that way lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] bearklaws:
really no need to be negative....this is hopefully good news...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TechBSwift:
your post is unnecessary, and as for jcase yes he's very dry, but he is very knowledgeable. He's done more for this community than you or I will ever do. Jcase has no desire to create these methods because he chooses not to, not because he's unable.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] gaww:
Don't have phone in front of me, but do a search - it should pop up, There were two Samsung system update apps. It has not tried to update since - only a note that there is one available.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] brendan802:
On the packages urgentfwupdatenfc and urgentfwupdatetsp and samsung dm service. I think those 3 cover it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] bajasur:
Great work [MENTION=4287865]Sunderwear[/MENTION], I can vouch for you not being a troll. This guy is the real deal
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
He was not being negative. All he asked was a POC and a lil bit of explanation on this whole I found root thing. He knows better than most of us here. Trust me or not , a lot of devices bootloader's have been unlocked because of him. I am not being negative to you too. But just try to understand the facts.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Bettadbest:
Wowww i been waiting for this good news
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
And I can vouch for [MENTION=4854133]bajasur[/MENTION], have seen him a lot around XDA. Thank you for the clarification.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] ktetreault14:
You have my S7 Edge T-Mobile latest update to use for this lol. Hopefully it hasn't been patched
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] fazzix:
All im saying there are always better developers than him his not the only one to judge stuff.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] billydroid:
Did he say how he achieved root? JCase said the qualcomm trustzone keys were a dead end. I don't think that how root was achieved here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Syn Ack:
Is this the best thread or medium to get updates on this? Honestly one of the best things that could come out of this would be for us to identify the BS wakelocks and ACTUALLY utilize the great battery life of the S7 Edge.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Binary100100:
Nope and I hope that he doesn't. I'd bet that within three days after the OP explains his method of gaining root Samsung would release another update patching the exploit. Or perhaps it would just be a "coincidence." My advice to add, nobody update anything if you want a better chance of root access. Remain patient and feel free to subscribe to the thread for updates. Do NOT ask for ETA's!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Vintercon:
What are chances this might help with the att note 5?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Dvanzutphenkann:
Now if someone cooked up safestrap for this phone we could load Roms even with a locked bootloader
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] npjohnson:
Not to be sceptical, but if you could answer a few questions, people could stop theorizing about this.

You seem to have KingRoot installed. Is that the root vector you used?

I assume due to previous Samsung phone setups that the S7 has /system write protection (plus dm-verity would trip and cause the device to not boot) so, you couldn't have been calling SU from /system, and system-less root is out of the question due to the bootloaders cryptographic signature checks to verify the boot image's integrity (as system-less makes use of ramdisk modification). So, the only remaining reasonable options are:

1. (Less likely, but kudos to you of you do) You have a persistent kernel exploit worked out that patches out dm-verity, set SE Linux to permissive, and removes /system wrote protection.

2. (Much more likely) You have attained temp-root via KingRoot (as KingRoot added experimental 6.0.x support). I'm this case, you'd be unable to use a ton of root apps that remount /system to do their job, it would also cause some other apps that hardcode SU's file path to /system/xbin. Though, this would also wear off on every reboot. Basically, it'd be no different than the current Note 5 situation.

So, are you able to remount /system R/W (with changes actually persisting across reboots)?

If yes, would you mind explaining (in abstract) how you bypassed dm-verity?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] billydroid:
Like binary said. He should not disclose how he did it. We don't want it patched.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] npjohnson:
If this is KingoRoot like I'm almost sure it is, there's no point in withholding it, as the exploit is already public. It uses a public linux Kernel (through kernel version 4.3) Vuln. to grab temp root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] v8dreaming:
Maybe you should PM him, if you want those answers. Making them public serves no purpose at this time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Syn Ack:
And then come back here and tell us the level of root that has been achieved. Just omit the details.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] npjohnson:
If e is just using a public method, and didn't create this, it wastes y'all's potential time window, as the exploit is already public, and the patch in the works.

It would serve every purpose to make it public. If its a public method.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] stang5litre:
I agree, to many of these threads out saying stuff. He's just asking a simple question. Samsung can't come to your house and make you update and patch your phone. Come on people lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] CNexus:
It's not just about the question. The point is that these exploits are seen as security concerns so there is a big chance they can and will get patched in an update.

And yes, manufacturers usually have methods in place to force a patch if it's a big enough hole.

But regardless of that, there's also no point in explaining something unless you're very familiar with the way system exploits work, because then this thread will just turn into people asking questions to figure out if it'll work for them instead of adding useful information to the discussion.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] UnixSlayer:
I would say not to state anything about it here, until the method is proven... and works completely.... it's none of Samsung's business. Too many spies from Samsung on here.

If it was a temp root, then the phone would have erred, and rebooted.... The video shows different. It was working pretty flawlessly... Take your time, and perfect it.... We can all be patient....

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Hashbang173:
Not necessarily
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
For few days, let's keep our opinion to ourselves if it's temp root or perm root or your doubts on the methodogies and let the guy work in peace. I mean I would love to know what he used or whatever but let's just have some patience.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] KaptainRandom:
This looks promising
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] dajmanjt:
Everyone sees the kingo root toast flash every time an app requests root right? Wouldn't that be a sign that it's for sure temp root using the software off of kingo website? Just asking cause that's what my first thought was.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
At this point even a temp root would be amazing. It's a gateway. Devs can chime in and help us out with gaining a perm root. Also some other guy in sprint thread might possibly have a good news on unlocking the bootloader using a GC pro dongle I believe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] KaptainRandom:
Does kingo root su app only work with kingroot?

Or is it just the su app he prefers to manage his root?

Does kingo root su app work with nonkingroot methods?

I dont have to use chainfires su app with chainfires root method...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] seanvree:
Sick. Thanks! Waiting...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] xWolf13:
Great job on this! Very pleasing to me (and the many GS7 Qualcomm users) after much discouragement from certain users/devs. Proving them wrong in such a great way!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] meraz9000:
I'm using kingo root because supersu binary fails to update properly so I'm unable to use it as the default root access manager.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
May be chain fire can help with that .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] PlatinumPenguin:
I was getting ready to give up on this device and sell then move on. This gives me some hope to hold on a little bit longer.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] OuncE718:
If [MENTION=4287865]Sunderwear[/MENTION] creates root for a previous build and I'm on a current one shouldn't I be able to downgrade to the previous build (that he's on) to gain root?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] canynballa:
Yeah all you have to do is flash older firmware through odin which you can find at sammmobile or on here xda. I've done this with my S5 and S7.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] OuncE718:
I know how to flash previous software. I was just confused as to why so many people are freaking out and saying "DO NOT upgrade to current software" because of it messing up your chance with root (as if it would be permanent damage).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] canynballa:
I'm not sure. Sorry I don't understand either.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] thekojac:
I can only speak from my personal experience, but my Verizon branded HTC One M8 could not be downgraded without being S-OFF and bootloader unlocked. I expect it's the same with a lot of phones, and that's why people are panicking a bit.

The fact that you can so easily downgrade Samsung devices kinda surprises me, tbh.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] canynballa:
it's easy I actually did yesterday.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] iridaki:
In the video, he's using FX, a root file explorer app, and it looks like remounting /system fails (at around 0:30 in the video), but I'm not too sure as I've never used said app.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] slickmastajay:
Awesome job! Patiently awaiting on your method.

For my personal use i don't really need an unlocked bootloader nor custom roms since the stock software is already pretty good. All i need root for is to use Viper4Android
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Venom0642:
[MENTION=4287865]Sunderwear[/MENTION] Nice hopefully you get it going, To bad AT&T won't be able to get Root Since that's the hardest to even try to get rooted , But if you break thru AT&T For Root then surely your the Man! :good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TechBSwift:
Well you can only do that now because they have not pushed an update that increment the bootloader, you better believe that's coming once root is found, or maybe even before than do they can prevent users from rooting. So it's always best not to update if you for sure want root.

You are correct, see above

See above

Why does it matter, he already said it has bugs. Even if root comes, it has a long way to go.

Thanks but you personal usage doesn't really help this thread.

Really...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] slickmastajay:
Wasn't intended as help obviously... Just saying thanks to the op for motivation.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Venom0642:
Like i mentioned great job on those other providers phone , but as you know AT&T is very very hard , Last phone that actually had root was S4 if i recall, ever since that AT&T has been tightly locked down, but like i said [MENTION=4287865]Sunderwear[/MENTION] may break thru AT&T!

Running On Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge G935A Wicked Dark Carnage Edition Theme
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] iridaki:
If the system cannot be remounted as RW it means that no system changes can occur, which would deprive the user of full rooting benefits and probably hinder further developments. I'm sure it's a step in the right direction, and since there is no ETA or specific details, this thread is at the moment used for speculations. Which definitely do not help in any way, but this is a forum, people tend to want to kill time here so there's no need to get all worked up.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] _Dennis_:
What makes you think that AT&T is harder to root then the others this time around. All the hardware is the same, the boot loader is locked on all the variants the same, what evidence is there that any one variant is harder to root then the others?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TechBSwift:
Venom I respect everything you've done for the community, but your wrong on this one bro. The s6 edge for AT&T was rooted, the same time as all the other u.s s6 edges. Therefore this phone will mostly likely be the same since they all carrier the same hardware and security functions.

My point is this is in early stages, and people love to point out the negatives without giving things a chances to develop. I know temp root extremely well from my Verizon note edge days. Although the effects only lasted until you reboot the phone, it was better than nothing.

You are correct my friend, unless the exploit is found within the carrier software, most likely the exploit will work for all u.s models
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] iridaki:
You are right in that negativity prevails, but I also see a lot of posts written with excitement and gratitude. I guess, some people are just more cautious, probably overly so.

Personally, even though I own an Exynos S7 and in theory I can get full root any time, I am holding off hoping someone will come up with a method that retains the Knox fuse. If temp root can do this, I'll be really excited for it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Venom0642:
Aye forgot about the S6 , since i never had that phone , only Note 5 and now S7 Edge phones is what i have from AT&T , but all i said was it's hard to root the AT&T phones now, not saying it can't be done, i am sure it can if [MENTION=4287865]Sunderwear[/MENTION] works out the bugs that he's working on!

Running On Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge G935A Wicked Dark Carnage Edition Theme
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Endlessz:
Would this work for the s7 active assuming he works out the kinks?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Goliath27:
What needs to be disabled to stop further updates? With package Disabler
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] AlphaD1:
Personally I just went and searched for the word update in package disabler and then disabled anything that had the words system and updates though you might want to be a little more cautious I suppose, I like living on the.... Edge.

The second to last three for sure but I disabled all of them.

Hope that helps!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] brendan802:
Samsung dm service, system update, urgentfwupdatenfc and urgentfwupdatetsp
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Goliath27:
Thanks alpha!

And again thank you!

My last update was a week or two ago, so hoping that I wouldn't have to revert to the original firmware before root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] bearklaws:
same 4 I have and no problem so far...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] devil_2:
what is the point of this post? shows nothing, proves nothing, explains nothing...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
Then refrain yourself from posting here. Nothing to see here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TheKnux:
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---------- Post added at 06:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:33 PM ----------

I like what you did there. ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] rafael707:
Let's just hope this root method is not patched on current firmware, I can't find firmware for att variants..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] npjohnson:
This is correct. No /system remount. This means that this is temp root. That and the inclusion of King User in the app drawer tells me it was the desktop version of either KingRoot or Kingo Root?

Anyone care to try them? I'd bet anything they will work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] brendan802:
Neither work, we all wish it was that simple. So far nobody has mentioned anything about the method used or the exploits being used. It would be nice to hear about it but without jeopardizing potential holes as samsung is closely monitoring stuff like this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] npjohnson:
Do they both explicitly refuse to run? Or do they fail to run mid-way?

For example, Kingo & KingRoot alike can root Nexus devices on 6.0.x. It just takes a TON of tries. Temp-Root using their vulnerability relies on a race-condition actually.

Y'all need to seriously chill with this whole "IT IZ TOP SECRET" thing.

This is temp-root. Which is hard to get, hard to keep for extended periods, and provides only minimal extra device control. Samsung will patch any vulnerability that surfaces. Withholding it longer only means it will be patched within the same window of time at a later date.

To add to all this, why else would the OP have KingUser installed, unless he used Kingo/KingRoot or a variant of it? It is the WORST SU management tool.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] rafael707:
Anyone seem this?

https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/742254512174469120
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TheKnux:
I've tried both. No luck.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
Try it . I asked them a while ago of they had root for our device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] TheKnux:
Tried both just now before leaving for work. Regular and Smart Root don't work. At least on the latest firmware.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] pantmunu:
Me too . But on their Twitter page they said that this model is supported. Kinda shady, ain't it ..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] canynballa:
all of the "one click root" programs are like that. They promise what they can't deliver.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] rafael707:
Why do they do that for? Ugh..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] cuezaireekaa:
They get the traffic.. :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] idler1984:
Some observation when we were working on SM-G9350 root:

- TIMA/RKP enhanced

- Hard-coded no-permissive domain for SELinux

- Of coz, dm-verity enforced /system partition integrity

So if the above 3 can be bypassed, it would be a very nice permenant root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] ianmacd:
I'm curious. Why do you think that Samsung is so eager to deny you root?

If Samsung were really that keen on locking everything down as tightly as possible, why would they allow the rest of the world the luxury of an unlocked bootloader on the G930F/G935F? Do they just dislike Americans?

Isn't it much more likely that Samsung provide the locked bootloader in the US at the insistence of the carriers there?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] AKW:
Probably, but since the carriers want the phones locked down, that means Samsung is still VERY likely to patch any exploits to keep the carriers happy.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] brendan802:
I'd say it's a 50 50 thing that way the carriers make more money on sales as well as samsung. Over the pond in Europe they have different laws regarding mobile devices and I am pretty certain that is why samsung left the bootloader open. It wasn't by choice they had to in order to meet the requirements of laws.

Pulled from Wikipedia

European Union

The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/CE, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect.[32]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] DarkFlasher:
I think Samsung wants to show that the Snapdragon version is very secure since we have Samsung Pay whereas Exynos version doesn't support it to my knowledge. So it would make sense they would focus their attention on our devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] rdeets:
Exynos supports Samsung Pay. The apk can be side loaded. It's just a question of when it's going to be launched in international markets. Samsung needs to get enough banks to support it in the market before they can officially launch it there.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] gaww:
It is being rolled out on some international devices and many others have been able activate it with only minor tweaks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] id10terrordfw:
Figures this happens right after I return it and get a 6P. :silly:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] v8dreaming:
I'm more interested in what this guy is doing.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=67279935