[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo Upgrading] spacecat:
Eagle said(I'm not going to fall in love with you, don't worry.

I just did not want to use the same hostile tone that you were using in that post. Forum is about arguing a point, but we should all strive to be polite and maintain good manners, and avoid getting personal. That's what I meant by the word harmony.)

Im not hostile just to the point

Eagle said (Just because I have not used an EEE does not mean I have not used a product with similar concept. I've used a few such devices running windows 98. The most recent one being Toshiba Libretto. They are all subnotebook with tiny screen and less than full size keyboard running full OS, and are more transportable than a normal notebook.

Wrong. You're the one who speak without having any experience.)

I have never Met anyone who uses architectural SOFTWARE fullstop!

What percentage of the worlds computer using population actually do?

Eagle said (What I meant is that I would like my mobile device to have the ability to rely on HSDPA/HSUPA to connect to the internet and push mail all the time, and not having to rely on wire, usb, or wifi hotspots.)

WELL in the UK its pretty much impossible to get 2 separate Sims for the same data tariff so you eihter carry round a beast like the ATHENA or the SHIFT(if it does voice) or you use a separate phone and use as a modem or you buy 2 DATA PACKAGES.

Eagle said (Yah yah yah. Size of eee comes in perfect for using it anywhere but size of Athena is too big. I do see where you're coming from:rolleyes: )

YOU can ROLL your EYES all you want but once again you deliberately misinterpret what i say. I have spoken about what I call ultra mobility and Basic mobility I Put the ATHENA and the EEE in the same GROUP! of Basic mobility and small smart phones and viewty/N95 in the ULTRA group.

On a trip or where you may carry a bag work etc Basic is Ok, in many other circumstances i.e. a social event :party, drinks etc pulling out an EEE or an ATHENA is gonna look pretty dumb!

Eagle said (If your eee is using the 4400 mAh battery, the advertise battery life is 2.8 loooooong hours. Very impressive as a mobile device. :rolleyes:)

I get plenty of time on my EEE and its not a problem so far i dont know what the average is probably a few hours when online but it hasnt run out on me yet.As leoni said 'and didnt you agree with all his points?' a bigger 5-6 hours battery is coming out soon.

Eagle said( That is the point. When you mentioned that your eee is used Monday to Friday and left in the office. I said to myself, why not use a desktop. What I did not know was that you work for the government. In that case, if I'm in your shoe I would consider a normal notebook with a DVD player. In that case, not only you can watch your youtube but also any DVD movies. What I'm really really saying is that if the frequency of using it on the road is that infrequent, there is no strong case for getting an eee.)

You really dont pick up on what people say you just generalise so

L E T M E S A Y I T S L O W L Y SO Y O U U N D E R S T AND

I 'TEND' TO use it largely at work but ALSO when im out and about and need access to XP functionality this varies. I have No need for a DVD drive when i can rip movies to my 8GB SDHC card and watch without the hassle of a dvd player. The main pull for me is the lightness and small size of the EEE as a laptop. i dont want to have to carry some 3KG monster with me anywhere thanks

Eagle said (I respect your way of categorising them, but I would divide mobility differently.

1. Truly mobile devices which has

- long battery life

- can be carried with your normal shirt pocket or belt pouch

- Instant on. Often not running mobile OS.

- Meant to be available all the time. You would want it around during lunchbreak, for example.

It does not matter if you use one hand, two hand, or even no hands.

- Examples: all pda phones including Athena.)

I don't agree with ATHENA being put in your 'Truly' mobile category'

simply because its JUST TOO BIG! based on my 7 Months of using it.

It is really CRAP as a phone I know you dont think so but LOTS of people do.I had to have a bag to carry it , i hate the whole holster thing just more Stuff to carry about

Eagle said (2. Highly/ultra portable but not truly mobile machine, which has

- short battery life, therefore needs to be close to power source often

- Often run full OS.

- Undersized screen and keyboard. Not the most productive machine for serious works.

- small screen and sizes but too large to fit into the shirt pocket or to be carried with a belt pouch.

- Meant to be available often but not all the time. You won't bring it out when having lunch break, for example.

- Examples include eee PC and Shift and most UMPC.)

WHAT is 'SERIOUS' work? most people who use laptops on the road do presentations, email, internet and word documents . they probably consider that SERIOUS.. there is a stat somewhere that says that people at Home or Work do not use 90% of the capability of even MS OFFICE!

so the architectural USERS must be a very small group indeed!

Eagle said (Convergence is the main buzzword in CES 2008. They'll get there. )

Buzzwords come and go just like fashion and fads,

Why is it NO UMPC has ever truly taken off?

Answer because people dont buy the concept

Why didnt the ATHENA FLY off the shelves in its millions?

Answer See ABOVE

Why is the SHIFT so Delayed for months on end?

IAnswer its a pigs ear no one knows what to put in the bloody thing

WHY has a cheap and very Small laptop SOLD OUT?

Answer its what poeple Know and WHAT WORKS and its CHEAP and SMALL

WHY has the EEE garnered hundreds of fantastic reviews?

Answer see above

MOST people DONT WANT CONVERGENCE

we are sold this markeing BULL **** and for a while I tried it and

IT does not work. As i said many times a device can only be so big for its purpose

The ATHENA is TOO big to be a regular phone END of STORY for most people except you. If its such a great convergence device, why does it need another device , BT Headset or a MINI BT LG phone to make it work or god forbid a bloody BLUETOOTH WATCH PHONE ! so you have to TALK TO YOUR WRIST?

THATS 2 DEVICES! or possibly 4 !

Im not saying that the ATHENA is a Crap device but it has LOTS of faults the biggest one being its use as a phone which kinda KILLS the whole convergence thing