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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
:) Got ya. Again, not sure what kind of research you've done/what your experience with Android is, so if I rehash some things that are obvious to you then apologies. :angel:

What you're describing then can be caused by a rather large number of things: screen, CPU/GPU, Sense, and as noted earlier background processes. Where I would start is software. Those will be the obvious easiest fixes. Try changing launchers/reducing animations, Greenify (or some similar app) as many background stuffs as you can, reduce auto updating background processes, if there's CPU intensive apps, find good alternatives and replace them and so on. Weeding through your mods and apps one at a time, especially the one's that you think couldn't be the problem will probably carry you further than anything else. 95% of the time I've ever seen a problem, it's an app or mod. I have the supposed "bad" display and I've never seen a lag or stutter or any other graphical glitch. Like I said, the refresh rate is as good as any display you can find, so unless there's a hardware failure of some sort, I highly doubt that's the issue. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Cinner:
Well, like I said, I've seen the same thing on other HTC 10 devices at stores, so I must be more sensitive to it than others. I'm not saying the display has a hardware problem, don't get me wrong. It's just sub par in this regard, in my opinion. And because my device is new I have no extra software installed, so that is definitely not the problem. Is it as stock is could be. I also tried other roms, like Lineage, and I see the same display characteristics on there as well.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
Well, the new batch of flagships should start rolling out soon from what I've seen if disatisfied. Looking at screen compairisons: grayscale, white levels, nit brightness, etc. it really looks like they're kind of all over the board. From everything I can see, the screens are about on par with all other manufacturers. They each seem to have strong and weak points. But back to the original question :) only thing I can think if you're stock and add this kernel is to maybe try upping touchboost settings. I'm not too sure what other settings would affect only scrolling as you said you don't really see stutters anyplace else. Afaik, touchboost would be the one to look at.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Cinner:
Yeah I tried messing with touch boost on my Galaxy S7 Edge in the past, trying to get rid of the horrible Samsung stutter (which I don't think can be done). I'll see if it makes any difference on the 10, thanks.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
My curiosity is still up and I have a theory. :) Have you tried a dark background theme on the settings page to see if that makes a difference?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Cinner:
I haven't tried a rom yet that supports this functionality. It's not a standard Sense feature, is it?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
It's built in if you use substratum. I'm thinking it MIGHT get rid of any percieved blurring in the settings screen. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Kyuubi10:
Hey [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION],

does your EX Kernel Manager app require busybox for any functions?

Or can I use it without busybox installed?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] MrH871:
What settings and values are people using with pnp tweak

Cpu speeds, governers, i/o schedulers and which profile in pnp tweak?

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What settings and values are people using with pnp tweak

Cpu speeds, governers, i/o schedulers and which profile in pnp tweak?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Cinner:
Won't scrolling a black website like Ars Technica give the same insight? It's far easier to check :) In any case it doesn't make a difference unfortunately.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
I personally leave everything as is except changing min to 0. That seems to be the general consensus in the Ivicask PNP thread for the one setting to change and it's worked great for me the past 2 - 3 months. :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] MrH871:
Thanks for reply dude, what about when installing kernel, u just leave clock speeds and govs as they are initially in aroma?

Whats better cfq fiops noop deadline or any other
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DroidIt!:
Eh, I brought up that idea because to me it almost sounded like ghosting more than stutters. It's not only how our phones act, but how we percieve things so thought maybe changing to a dark background might make a difference. Lol, well worth a shot anyways. :)

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Lol, might sound kind of booring, but I just leave everything as is and just change different selections on final screens in Aroma of whether to allow magnetic screen case sensor, BLN and so on. FIOPS is supposed to be the best, I've not really tested, but yeap, overall I just leave all settings as flar has them. :) Easiest flash and go kernel I've ever used. :D
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] taker714:
Can I use this Kernel while I have LineageOS installed?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ali nz:
Not recommended...try those which are made for los based roms
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dentedilupo:
can i use this kernel in viper rom? it´s just flash in recovery?

i´m s-off any problem?

thanks
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] sdamark:
Sure, works fine.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dentedilupo:
my last oficial stock rom is MM

but i use viper with android 7.0

what kernel should i choose?

Android 7.0 Sense (ROM Base 2.28 or later)

ElementalX-HTC10-1.04

Android 6.0.1 Sense (ROM Base 1.9x or later)

ElementalX-HTC10-0.26
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DaveedDB:
What is your firmware version ?? But the app auto installed the right one automatically for me so idk why yours does like that ,maybe the new app update
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dentedilupo:
i have various options for download

ElementalX-HTC10-1.04 for Kernel for Android 7.0 Sense

Kernel for Android 6.0.1 Sense (1.9x base and later ONLY) ElementalX-HTC10-0.26

i will try the ElementalX-HTC10-1.04 for Kernel for Android 7.0 Sense

since i´m using viper 7.0 but my last oficial stock rom was MM
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
Thanks! Check the battery monitor in the app. It will depend on your usage, but 16-17% /hour active drain is typical for me.

In EXKM? Go to CPU->CPU Temperature... and click the reset icon in the upper right corner.

I don't know, could be a T-Mobile problem. Other tmo users out there?

I wasn't planning to do wake gestures, but we'll see

Yes, you can always get the latest in the app.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Viper4713:
I noticed HTC doesn't seem to have a motion requirement on this phone, so my double tap works every time just laying/sleeping on a table, strangely in the settings it still says to move your phone, but on this phone I don't have to.

Your kernel is great, I don't think wake gestures is even necessary, that's my vote.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
I think you still have to move it, but you can also just hit the home button. That's why I was thinking gestures are not necessary.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jayplusone:
Smooth as butter on latest LeeDrOiD nightly. Everything is set to default, lowered vibrations and changed read ahead to 512 and no issues at all.

Guys, regardless of ROM please don't undervolt. It only creates instability and the losses make any gain negligible. I'd rather have a stable phone than an extra 5 mins SOT. ?

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Viper4713:
I just flashed 0.03, this is my first time trying this kernel for this device and I noticed sweep2sleep doesn't work at all, I have it set to "left and right" no matter what it either closes an app or opens and closes Recent Apps Switcher, basically just thinks I'm pushing random buttons.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] eichenberg:
It works, but is finicky. Basically follow the line where the screen meets the top of the black area above the home button.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Viper4713:
Ahh! now I got it! I was swiping over the buttons them selves, thanks! It takes practice though, I accidentally would open Phone app or something lol

I also noticed Red text on boot splash now when its not usually there on Stock kernel, but its not annoying at all compared to the M8, the placement on M8 was just ugly, but on H10 it makes sense so I'm not too worried about it.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jayplusone:
I was gonna test it for you then I thought to myself it's not going to work if I hit the home button. I would be all over my home screens [emoji23].

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] CodenameZeus:
Installed on European HTC 10, seems to work fine although I haven't noticed a difference with the overclock tbh. Kernel seems to work fine, except just a few mins ago my phone froze and shut itself off. Just updated, temps are fine unless I'm gaming. Thanks for the hard work.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] :
Is it possible to use Custom Kernel with Stock ROM (yes, I have a custom Recovery)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mick_soul:
Why not? ;)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] CodenameZeus:
Yes! I am running stock and it works fine :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] threetwentyfizzle:
T-Mo user right here flar, no signal issues on your kernel, only bug I saw was what has been already reported on the screen lockup and reboot issue when using GPS apps. Just Downloaded .3, so will test it out and post any logs if I run into any more reboots or lockups. Great kernel flar! Glad to be running EX on my device again. [emoji3]
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] IronicChloride:
Between viper or leedroid, which ROM would you guys ecommend to go with this kernel? They both look great so I'm leaving it up to which has better compatibility/better tested with EX/etc.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] afuller42:
viper id say if your into customizing, leedroid is more stock feeling and less mods. both will run fine
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
Try them both
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
That shouldn't happen. Try it without overclocking
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] FearlessAZ:
Yes. I have done it on multiple devices over the years

Got my ElementalX! Patiently waiting for Maximus to come to my HTC 10
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] CodenameZeus:
Really? The phone wasn't hot or anything. Average. Was using instagram at the time. It froze, I held the power button and it turned off, then I turned it back on. Has been fine the entire time. That was .2 though not .3
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] :
How do I know that installation was successful?

In TWRP everything worked, but in settings > about > software information > more it looks like on the picture. Shouldn't it show elementalx?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] :
You have to flash the kernel matching your ROM base. Viper is based on 2.x, so you have to flash ElementalX 1.04.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DaveedDB:
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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DaveedDB:
Are you sure it's rom based ?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] dentedilupo:
i have os 1.80.651.30 so wich one i should flash?

this one?

Android 6.0.1 Sense (ROM Base 1.80 or later - use this if WiFi doesn't work)

ElementalX-HTC10-0.17

but i use rom viper 7.0
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] :
Check the first post.

Or this post:
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] bnasty06:
anybody try this on sprint since the N firmware came out?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Magnum_Enforcer:
I'm running Viper ROM 5.5.1 on Sprint with N firmware and EX kernel version 1.04 is working fine.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] sdamark:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] Very nice updates to the EX app. Looks great.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] baddoor:
So

I've managed to install the kernel. Manager and use butterfly and hawkpepper

In both cases they worked

But both worked beautifully with my previous nexus 5x running CM

but with this HTC 10 running nougat viper I keep hitting 5-6% battery drainage in idle time!! Previous phone was 1-2% idle time

I ran greenify, checked background running services, and apps on startup. No suspect found

Any tips?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DaveedDB:
Hi can anyone post a ss of the default misc I installed a script that changed them :/
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gsw5700:
Note your other settings, reinstall and reapply settings, or wipe data using TB or restore backup using TB (titanium backup)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
Update!!!

Download

ElementalX-HTC10-1.05-Sense

Changes:

-update ondemand and conservative for big.LITTLE
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] MrN1484:
Thanks for the update.

Anyone else having an issue with reboots when selecting conservative?

Totally unrelated I'm sure but my play service has blown up since restarting the phone too so a double whammy :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gsw5700:
I would stay on interactive, try the fusion profile if your after good battery, seems good so far
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
Maybe it doesn't work, I wan't able to test as my wife took the HTC 10 with her on a trip. She'll be back in a few days.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] gsw5700:
Don't think conservative governor plays well, i believe? Interactive is recommended
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] okiru880:
From reading a discussion that said that the HTC10 '50 fps lock' could be lifted by using EX Kernel, I've been trying to work out which settings to change. I assumed that the main performance level set to 60% would do the trick but still capped me to 50. I've tried to disable pnpmgr but the app won't let me.

Currently on stock routed Nougat.

Anyone offer any advice? Thanks.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] okiru880:
Managed to get it to work by enabling and disabling high performance mode in developer settings. Not sure why I needed to do that.

EDIT:

Rebooted phone and now capped at 50fps again...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] johnnyman25:
If I update to new updated kernel I must install pnp&thermals tweak again?

Greetings from my awesome Matte Black HTC 10
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
no
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] johnnyman25:
Thank you! :)

Greetings from my awesome Matte Black HTC 10
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] okiru880:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

(Possible bug)

I'm on stock rooted Nougat, stock settings in EXKM manager but trying to lift the 50fps HTC cap.

If I click to disable 'HTC pnpmgr' it still shows enabled (bug?) but allows my phone to reach 60fps. If i press HTC pnpmgr' again it stays on enabled but this time limits my phone back to the 50fps cap and so on.

It seems that the setting is actually disabling pnpmgr but doesn't change the setting flag in the app. So there is no way to keep it 'disabled' when rebooting, i have to remember to go through the same process again.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks man.

Edit:

I use the following app to test:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wt.fpstest
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] froggy88:
Is anyone else getting constant reboots when installing 1.05? MY phone boots and is usable for 30 seconds or so, then reboots. I had to install 1.04 again for my phone to be stable.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] sdamark:
Nope, running smooth here. Express install through the app or download and install? Check md5 of download? I did the express install.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] froggy88:
I used the express install form the app. Ill try it again and see what happens...
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Light1984:
I remember having at one point functionality on an older device where long pressing the back button would kill the current app. [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] is that something that is achieved through the kernel or was that likely baked into the ROM? If it's kernel driven, any chance it could ever make it into EX kernel?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] jsaxon2:
I think you can do that with Button Mapper by flar2 which this kernel has support for.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Gamesoul Master:
Kernel still running smooth as butter. I try other kernels on occasion, but the buttery smooth performance and battery life keeps bringing me back.

One thing I noticed maybe a couple months ago or so... Using the Home button to turn off the screen (while on the home screen) stopped working. Button Mapper is set appropriately, and toggling whether to use the Home button as the fingerprint scanner doesn't help. I didn't bother to report it sooner, until I tried a different kernel last night. It didn't claim to have Button Mapper support, but the moment I installed it, the Home button suddenly starting working to turn off the screen. Flashed back to EX kernel after being less than satisfied with the other one, and it went back to not working. I can pull a log if desired.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] killerojrc:
Hi, my HTC 10 is completely stock, unrooted and S-ON.

Am I able to boot into stock recovery and install this kernel there?

Thanks!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] frankcck:
No, you can't. You need TWRP recovery.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] killerojrc:
Bummer, okay.

Thanks for the reply.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
You could fastboot boot recovery and install the kernel.

Stock recovery would remain. Back up your stock boot.img and you will be able to do regular OTAs.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] killerojrc:
Interesting, I think I may have to try that soon!

Thanks for the reply.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Captain_Throwback:
Fastboot boot doesn't work on this device (unless you have a modified aboot with it fixed ;)).
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] okiru880:
Changing CPU governor to anything other than interactive/elementalX forces my device to freeze and reboot. Not sure how I would go about capturing a log to show this.

Stock 7.0 - 241.401, rooted, with EX Kernel 1.05.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
I should have known that, I usually fastboot boot during development but have to make a full zip to test things with this device.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Kisakuku:
Such a tease! ) Any pointers for enabling fastboot boot in 2.xx aboots?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Captain_Throwback:
I don't think it's possible for us mere mortals.. [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] was able to do it, though.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] Kisakuku:
Alright, at least it confirms that gods walk among us )
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] keaheng:
Hi op.

phone freeze and reboot when I tried to change the big cluster to conservative.

the log attach. hope it helps.

btw you may want to see this. i think the options will help a lot in term of battery life cus it does work on my 3T. The idle time is amazing without those wakelocks.

https://github.com/franciscofranco/one_plus_3T/commit/1baf7684bc978e481014bdae3cf0d5dee159270e

Thanks
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
How uninstall Kernel? Should I restore system image from TWRP? Maybe is other way to restore stock kernel?

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] ali nz:
If you backed up boot.img before flashing this kernel simply restore it...if not...dirty flash your rom

P.s:you asked this Q in nebula EAS kernel thread too
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
yes, sorry but I don't get rally good answer like you gave me. Did you 100% sure that kernels change only boot.img partition without change anything in system image partition?

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
With this kernel, only the boot.img is changed.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
Ok. Thank You for Yours answer :)

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] froggy88:
Just reporting back. Installing it a 2nd time worked!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
For me when change governors from default to ondemand or conservative phone is freeze and reboot automatically.

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
I know. You should use interactive anyway.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
Ok thank. Do you fix it?

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] akpe:
Just reporting an issue which seems to be Nougat and -not- ElementalX (or ROM, or PnP mod) related, just in case someone searches for it here.

If you get intermittent lag in quicksettings and/or in blinkfeed/settings/chrome scrolling, and you have apps enabled in Accessibility settings, check this post, might help :)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
It might be an Android 7.0 bug. The OnePlus 3 had the same problem, which thankfully is fixed on the latest 7.1.1 release.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] akpe:
Yep, apparently it is, just posted to let anyone know so they won't start wiping and reflashing everything in vain in case they come across the issue :)

Let's see if it will be fixed on 7.1.1, although as far as I can tell it's not that widespread, I haven't read of anyone experiencing it in an HTC device.
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] flar2:
Update!!!

A small update, reverting governor changes that didn't work and adding some wakelock options.

You can play with the wakelock options in EX Kernel Manager (which, if you haven't check it out lately, has some really great improvements)

Download

ElementalX-HTC10-1.06-Sense

Changes:

-revert ondemand and conservative for big.LITTLE

-add a few wakelock blocks (optional)
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] tcnineteen:
I didn't notice there's a section to cut out wakelocks until now, sweet! Thank you!
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] mattie_49:
I have ex kernel manager. Where about's is the wakelock controller located?
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] RogerF81:
Miscellaneous->scroll down to miscellaneos options->disable wakelocks
[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] wetxxx:
Now changing profiles works great :) Many thanks!!! Which profiles has better battery life and which better speed? Which is faster elementalx or interactive?

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[HTC 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developm] keaheng:
Phone freeze and restart while watching youtube