yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Finow has anticipated that new round watches with 6580 / 1 GB RAM / Android 5.1 are coming soon.

Read here:

https://plus.google.com/108572789085188517079/posts/jDnaryFwuk4
[Other SmartWatches] nixuspix:
What is good with Finow - it provides Support!
[Other SmartWatches] chike99:
You may want to consider No. 1 D6

http://www.tinydeal.com/no1-d6-smar...-1g8g-android-51-wi-fi-p-159441.html?px=39t5n
[Other SmartWatches] ExplosiveShiz:
nah. im actually 12 years old lol. i have small wrists.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
It is illegal to share an IMEI number in nearly all the countries in the world.

I think from looking at the problems you have been having - you must have done something. Did your MAC address go when you rooted the watch?

Something must have happened - they don't just go away on their own........
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
No the MAC address did not go away when i rooted the watch. The only thing i have done to it is flashed the firmware update that smartwatch ticks had on his full review the 160531 firmware. And then everything was ok for 2 days and then wifi and bluetooth didn't want to turn on. and the mac address was gone. I used the download only option in sp tools. since then i have tried flashing 2 other updated firmwares but still no luck. I rooted it just so i could try to hex edit the bt adress and wifi files and set a static address. But still no luck.

Its my understanding as long as you have download only set in sp tools this should not be possible. I have started to think that this maybe is a hardware error or something. :/
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
This is an issue for sure.

I have a new set of firmware flashing tools and firmware dated 20/06/2016 but you need to get your NVRAM partition sorted.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3xyOuab2f-OcllQejVSWktZc2s/view?usp=sharing here is the latest firmware but as for the NVRAM problem, email jessie@finowatch.com

Tell them that you completed the firmware upgrade as advised with "download mode" selected and ask them for advice on fixing the issue.

I cannot - legally - tell you how to do this.

Cheers

pablo11

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3xyOuab2f-OcllQejVSWktZc2s/view?usp=sharing here is the new firmware fresh from Finow.

Included is a new version of SP Tools which apparently fixes some issues as outlined in this thread before now.

I have flashed it selecting "download only" in SP Tools and I am fine - so far :)

This should also fix some ram and partition size errors reported previously.

Cheers.

pablo11
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
I have tried kingoroot and doesn't work

Tried also with the kingrot apk without succes .

Which usb drivers do you have ?
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Oruxmaps

Hi,

Very interested in this watch, can someone verify if oruxmaps works? The apk is available on the homepage: http://www.oruxmaps.com.

Also to verify this has

1. real GPS and it is working?

2. it is reasonably waterproof lets say heavy rain?

Hugely appreciate it.

Regards, Andrew
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
I used Kingoroot desktop application, and MTK65xx PdaNet VCOM ADB USB Driver. And then kingoroot recognized the watch as "Q1 watch" and rooted it. But ill be honest it took some time for the "allow usb debugging" notice to show up on the watch when i connected it to the laptop.
[Other SmartWatches] lospider:
Hello, guys! I'm planning to buy one of these new Chinese smartwatches for running, since they appear to have the same functionalities as Motorola Moto 360 Sport, Garmin Fenix, etc. - for 1/5 of the price! So, how accurate are their GPS? Can I just install any running app (Strava, Endomondo, etc.)? How is the bluetooth signal?

Also, I'm between the LEMFO LEM3 (bigger and better screen) and the No.1 D6 (1gb RAM)? Which one is better?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'll make it simple, the Q1 and D6 have no water resistance rating at all. As far as GPS, MTK based devices are hit or miss and can't say as I have not tested the LEM3.
[Other SmartWatches] lospider:
Thanks, Loklfish. I missed this "big" detail!
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
Hi,

can this smartwatch monitoring of sleep and can I download an application on the phone data?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Sleep as android is good and can be downloaded from the Play Store.
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
They confirmed it is not waterproof in any way.

I bought one. Is was between this and the No 1. D6 but I went with this because;

The D6 charging cable is nearly useless.

The D6 appears to have touch screen issues (see videos on youtube).

At first I thought the three buttons would be useful, but now I'm not so sure.

Q1 is currently $25 cheaper on gearbest (and yet it's the same hardware).

I'm hoping this is a pivotal moment when I can ditch my phone. I only use it for GPS, minor email and occasional phone/text. Games, social and camera are not of interest.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Few Things

I using Q1 about one week,with 160620 firmware (Rooted, of course :p). so the conclusion:

1. There are few bugs from firmware, when screen off (perhaps deep sleep :confused:) when opening apps (MX player, CPU Z) and you turn the screen on, they will mostly FC (8 from 10 I guess ) :rolleyes:

2. When copying files using Root Explorer, Status Bar FC (com.android.systemui)

3. 2G or 3G Signal reception very good, on par with my Redmi Note 2 Prime :good:

4. GPS when using network locking in room also pretty quick, about 20 seconds :D

5. All sensors except accelerometer is buggy, heart rate only can be accessed from heartrate app, and also for pedometer from pedometer app, watch faces only showing zero both :(
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Yeah this video at 6:46 shows GPS and it looks good, he says it's much better than other watches he's played with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKa1bLAfO10

Gearbest has a bit of a stock delay, but it's only $71 so I can wait. :)

Would love it if someone can install Oruxmaps and get a screeny of it working - it's the pro's choice for navigation, and it's free. Very popular with hikers, cyclists etc in Europe.
[Other SmartWatches] mukyo:
Cool. If anyone can kindly confirm if strava can be installed please.

Emulator on 320x320 won't allow me install.

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
Then the same watch faces of the D5, with pedometer, heart rate and pedometer will not work? Someone else tried these functions? The barometer function depends on the smartwatch sensor or wireless connection?:confused:
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Hi

I have installed oruxmaps and it works ... the menu is cut but you can launch the menus ... I'm not able to use it so I can't say you if all functionalities are working but it seems so
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Does this watch have vibration function?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
There is no pressure sensor on any of these watches.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Will we get TWRP for Q1?
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
Hi, i tried the latest firmware you posted and its still the same, no wifi and no bluetooth. I tried e-mailing jessie but no response from her. I even tried contacting the seller from the finow aliexpress store where i bought the watch and nothing helpful there either. :( Do you maybe know some other forum where i might maybe get some help with the nvram issue? Or maybe if you could point me to who ever gave you the updated firmware so i can see if maybe he/she knows av solution to this or cant atleast help me figure out if its a hardware or software related issue :/ i have read when i googled these last days that either sp tools or mtk based china phones seem to have some kind of issue where the nvram becomes corupted or deleted even though the user has sp tools set to "download only".

I assume you are a developer and you do seem to have an insight into the mtk based china phones. Are these kind of nvram problems common when it comes to mtk based china phones according to your opinion? And are they complicated to fix? Im guessing yes because i cant find any fix on google that works but still doesant hurt to ask :)

P.s. i appreciate that you pointed me to jessie at finow but since shes to busy im guessing. Is there maybe some body else you can point me to? Hopefully somebody who can give me a complete factory firmware with nvram and everything. Not a firmware with a real imei ofcourse since i can set the watches original imei with sn writer. For me whats most important is to get the wifi and bluetooth working if im being honest so the imei can even be null(invalid) in the nvram partition of the firmware ofcourse im just guessing since i dont use it with a simcard. :)
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Gearbest doesn't have stock until the 15th (they hope) despite what it says on their website.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I'm sorry mate but Finow need to step up and offer a solution.

It's not too difficult after all....
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
Yeah i agree im a newbie but it doesant seem that difficult theres a lot of tutorials on flashing and coreccting/changing imei and the wifi mac but i dont have a backup of the nvram so so imorgon screwed. Im starting to think that they Will just leave me hanging and ignore the emails. Im starting to think that i should have just spent the money on some other chinese made smartwatch. Thank you for your help anyway.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Yes, it have. and good gps lock

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If sn writer and editing nvram is no go then i guess that's hw problem. It's just like my K9, it can't be detected in pc at all (usb, preloader, meta mode, nothing)
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
I Kinda figured that myself also. The last couple of days ive been trying to see if i can return the watch now to them but no response from either the official aliexpress store or from the jessie@finowatch.com email. I just find it rally funny that the only people who tried to help are you guys on xda. And im really gratefull to you.

Especially since finow have been kind of ignoring all atempts at comunication from me and ive tried emails and messages to the aliexpress store and thats f-ing hilarious. Hahaha o figure my chances of returning the watch are slim to none :p

So im basiclly treating this as a lesson on how chinese companys that sell cheap china smartwatches work and what to expect from them :)
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Well, they also not replied to my messages after I got my watch, even my complaint about 512MB ram. But I got board code of Q1, w602_wgl and got firmware 160620 from baidu, test it then got 1GB ram. So no problem with the watch and I am rock :highfive:
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
I'll tread carefully with mine. Gearbest have shipped today, said it would be two weeks. :)
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Glad you got it sorted - the firmware I posted a few posts back will also fix the ram issue and is the latest available.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Well, I posted it few pages back from yours, and there you can find both D6 and Q1, although 160620 firmware has been deleted.
[Other SmartWatches] rbrkumaran1:
Need help

My device is no detected in PC to flash. I added the required driver as well. Can you please advise.
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Happy to backup mine when it arrives and share it. Just need to know the process...
[Other SmartWatches] rbrkumaran1:
Can you please let meknow how u sorted the GPS issue? I am stuck now :(

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not able to locate them.. can you please share location of the latest firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
Hello i dont understand what gps issue? gps worked fine for me i just had the problem with the WIFI and Bluetooth. My issue was updated the firmware to the 20160531 version. Then the WIFI and Bluetooth worked for 2 days and after those 2 days just stopped working. cant turn them on at all. And the wifi mac and bt adress is missing. I have not solved it yet, im kinda looking at this as a lost cause :P haha

And for the latest FW well pablo11 posted this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3xyOuab2f-OcllQejVSWktZc2s/view?usp=sharing

But i would recommend that you take a complete backup of your watch before flashing any new firmware. I have not tested backing up the watch but im guessing that this tutorial should apply to the watch: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2730031

And also to make a 1:1 copy im guessing this tutorial should also apply to the watch: https://pinoyscreencast.net/how-to/...-smartphones-using-spft-mtk-droid-root-tools/

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Thanks snoopy, as for the process the way i understand it the watch has to be rooted or have clockworkmod recovery installed and it can done via mtk droid tools maybe with some other tools also im not sure. I have read about it here on this link https://androidmtk.com/backup-and-restore-imei-nvram

But im not sure if its legal to share ones own nvram backup, because pablo11 wrote earlier its not exactly ok to do it. And im not sure if maybe its breaking some forum rule or something like that if you were to share your nvram backup. Ill have to check that, since dont want you to get in trouble on my behalf :) but still it should be ok to back it upp for ones own use. Especially since sp flash tools seems to corupt the nvram partition sometimes. :)

Anyway i would really appreciate a pm if you succeed in backing up the nvram. :)
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
I'll give it a go when I get it, eta a few days (it was posted from Belgium so should be fast). Np (from my side) on sharing it.
[Other SmartWatches] stanisjj:
If you have any differences in the specifications and the product received, open up a dispute in aliexpress website. You need to provide pics n video as evidence to claim your proof. Seller might not agree for a refund but aliexpress team will take it up and return your money without even returning your product. I have done it and got 100% refund.
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Fino have clarified by email that the heart monitor functionality has been removed (at least in current manufacturing). No idea why.

I've asked them to check this thread and help with problems, unless they want their product/brand diminished.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
Hi, I am new owner of this watch. Got them from aliexpress. They already have new FW from 16.6.2016 and heart rate app is there. Installed nova launcher, till now satisfied.
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
but the D5 watchfaces work in Q1, heartbeats, the pedometer, battery Percent of and the weather forecast? Someone can try?:confused:

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lazzarone:
play store it's possible to install? endomondo and runtastic it's possible install? tnx
[Other SmartWatches] Logon941:
Does the other version of Finow x3 / x5 having this problems or any other problems? I would like to buy finow x3 its very preety smartwatch or finow x5... any advice?
[Other SmartWatches] piafinho:
Hi,

I got my watch and was playing with it.

It seems I also had a issue with GPS. But I was not able to confirm it as it didn't give it enough time to check.

After playing with some application I got a recurrent "unfortunately system ui has stopped".

Reboot doesn't solve this :(

Anyone have some pointer on options to clean this up? Like how to clean up the dalvik cache with the watch not having a custom recovery?

I would like to do a backup of the ROM before upgrading the Firmware.
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
Hi , I also bought this watch and I regret that I advocated . When you first turn everything worked OK . Then I put the nano SIM card and suddenly I can not turn on Bluethooth and WIFI . SIM card , although I detected . Network finds , but every time I report a network error . So nothing too . I note that I have not updated . I want to watch a complaint , so they do not pay anything until it's resolved. I can not believe that the manufacturer could launch something like this . This android is useless , or is there already a solution probému ?
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Unfortunately, that's also happen to me, when using Root Explorer, other apps fine. Although sometimes when I open an app then screen off, it will FC

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[Other SmartWatches] rbrkumaran1:
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[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
Hi, I have problem with connecting to PC too. Once I had it recocnized but malfunctioned and had yellow exclamation mark, than nothing. Which drivers do you use? And second question, does it have any other watch faces than one with butterfly? Thanks.

Ok, I found out how to change watch faces, but problem with recognizing by PC still remain.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
I don't have the sim ... only wifi

Anyway i want gps working without internet .... why i need internet it makes no sense

Thanks a lot anyway
[Other SmartWatches] kacsa105:
How to Remove Google account?
[Other SmartWatches] piafinho:
I went to a open place that should not have WIFI around and it took about 30 seconds to get some satelites and a few seconds later a GPS fix.

So I think that Wifi need to be On but doesn't need to have Data Connection.

With the firmware from June 20 I think the Watch automatically changes the Wifi to On when I try to use location. That might be the reason why it was not working in the one from June 16.

Need to test it properly when I have more time.

By the way to recover my "System UI stopped" loop I updated the firmware. All looks good now.

You guys having problems with it make sure the following:

- Have the Watch shutdown and disconnected from the PC

- Install the drivers as required.

- Run the SP Tools via Right Click on the program and do a "Run as Administrator"

- Select the "Download Only" option, then choose the scatter file and push "Download"

- Only then connect your Watch to the PC.

It worked fine for me like this.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
Thanks for tutorial, but are yuo able to connect watch to PC in MTP or mass storage profile?. Mine doesnt show in PC. Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] piafinho:
Yes, it appears. I think it first failed but after enabling the USB debugging it started to work fine. But I have Android SDK / Google drivers installed. Maybe is related to that.

I think that one of the problems is that the two pins in the middle are very retracted. So they might not make contact. Maybe if you press the cable to the phone it makes it better?

I cannot be touching the watch and need to leave it in some positions (lke screen down) for it to make contact.

One option is to connect without the back cover. But you need to be careful to make sure it doesn't make contact in a wrong way.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
USB connection

but I didn´t succed. I have USB debugging enabled, adb drivers installed /didn´t have a problem with other phones/, took cover off, but still getting error "unknown usb device (device descriptor request failed)". Can you point me to some drivers or something. I have no idea, how to solve it. BTW I tried it on 3 different PC and still no go. Couldn´t it be broken USB cable?

Thanks for advice,
[Other SmartWatches] piafinho:
I find strange that it would be a broken cable. As the USB device is detected looks like all pins are making contact. Power and Data.

I have no clue on what can be the reason. If that is happening with 3 different PCs it is quite strange. What is the OS you are using? the same on all of them?
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
2 PC were win10, 1 pc with win7
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Search google for USB deview and uninstall drivers.

Then boot windows with driver signature enforcement disabled and re-install the drivers.

Give it another go...
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Possibly a burnt out data pin in the watch or cable , especially if it was working.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Very true. Didn't know it was working before hand.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
No, it wasn´t working from begining.

I am giving up. Tried everything, but still the same error. Don´t know anybody, where to by new cable?
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
most likely manufacturing defect, better contact the seller and return it... since my K9 square had the same problem. at first device descriptor failed, then nothing detected at all, now it just decoration on my desk.
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Device descriptor is part of the USB handshake, you can read about it here: http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb4.shtml (search "Control Transfers : The bigger picture")

Your host recognizes it's a device, has sent the setup and request packets and hasn't received a reply from your watch. Nothing to do with drivers at this stage.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
So is it faulty device or what? Should I ask for replacement? Or what else I can do? Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Replace/refund for sure. These companies will only fix their products if the money disappears from their account, it's all they care about.
[Other SmartWatches] emuthebrave:
No option to enter pin code when pairing

I want to pair the Q1 with my car's bluetooth system. When I attempt to pair, the car gives me a pin code that it expects to be entered into the phone, but the Q1 doesn't prompt for it and so the pairing fails.

Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions on how to fix or work around.

Cheers.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Installed firmware , rooted phone , installed gps conf but gps doesn't work

The firmware is from 20.06.2016

Rooted with Kingo Root

The GPS detects the satellites but is not able to fix
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
Is that with wifi and sim off (i.e not by ip/mast fix)? If so then it sounds like a weak signal. The aerial is built into the strap, does it help if you remove it from your hand?

(I presume you're outdoors when you do this and it's not very bad cloudy weather which can sometimes be the cause of very long lock delays)
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Yes I have Wifi on and Sim off ; I tried both with a wifi connection active and without a wifi connection active

Yes I was outdoor in my garden near the wifi router ... no way to fix a satellite
[Other SmartWatches] occip:
Hi

If your watch is rooted , you can try mtk epo GPS fix app . Then update EPO with wifi, you can go out and click ygps, it should work .

Chers

Occip
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
I do not know how to update Finow Q1

Hi, I bought this watch, and when I put the SIM card, you can turn on WIFI and Bluethooth . SIM card loaded watch me , but all my throws a network error . I Vylolal dispute by AliExpress . Seller sent me a patch and nothing to do . I do not know how to install it . I do not understand that. It would provide me some guidance ? I do not think too much , it's a software issue , but AliExpress I wrote that I update and shoot video .

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As you please install the firmware , you should give me a tutorial ?
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Follow the instruction on page 23 to install ... is very easy

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Hi ... Mtk EPO GPS fix app doesn't work

I have manually downloaded the files in \data\misc

Trying to use Mobileuncle MTK Tools

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Last update ... I have tried to use my Phone SIM ( I'm using Italian operator TIM ) ; the smartwatch sees that is inserted, searches and finds the available networks but is not able to connect to any of them

Really this watch is full of software bugs ... I recommend to wait a decent sotware update before buying