yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] korom42:
v2.2.1 is Great

Xposed works well

but there is a problem with default font .can someone tell how have back stock Xperia Z5 theme ? or what's its name I'will try to apply it with 3rd party apps
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Please help me! My E6683 doesn't detect the SIMCARD after flashing V2.2.1

[IMG="Z5 Dual doesn't detect SIMCARD"]https://i.imgsafe.org/5b3061177c.png[/IMG]

There's still no DUAL SIM on the Settings
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z5/development/dual-variant-enabler-t3411965
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Yeah! You think the same as me. I've tried the mode from [MENTION=5111503]Nimadroid[/MENTION] right after flashing the ROM and it's working!

Anyway, thanks for your res. :)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Hey [MENTION=6791680]_LLJY[/MENTION] after installing Xposed Framework and rebooting, my phone goes into a bootloop, it stucked at the 4 dots logo and reboot until the battery is empty!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Xposed working fine for me and beta team...
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] bishshoy:
Did you installed xposed after flashing "Convert Single SIM ROM to Dual SIM Rom" mod? I have also done the same. So I won't take the risk if your Z5 is dsds too.

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@_LLJY

v2.2.1 is extremely fast. I didn't even bother to install PurePerformances after flashing your ROM. Thanks a ton.

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Edit:

Xperia X themes are missing. Anyway to get them back?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Yeah. after flashing "Convert Single SIM ROM to Dual SIM Rom" mod, I install Xposed Framework, enable some modules and reboot. Than, it ran into a bootloop!

Meanwhile, I'm using the XPOWER V3 with flashing "Convert Single SIM ROM to Dual SIM Rom" mod. But it doesn't detect my SD CARD.

BEST REGARDS!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Grac3k:
Wait or install?

Wait for 2.3 or install 2.2.1 on E6633 (dual sim)?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
Xposed work for my e6633.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Grac3k:
SS

Can you add some screenshots?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
OK
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
[MENTION=5124873]katibehi[/MENTION] can you please add a list of all the XPosed modules you're using ?

Thanks !
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
I suggest you to wait for V2.3. Personally, I think that V.2.2.1 is still unstable, at least for me (Must use workaround to work with Dual, Xposed Framework cause bootloop, Battery drains quite fast, the UI is still Z5 not X) :(

However, _LLJY and some other users confirmed that Xposed Framework is working so I'm not sure if it works for you. :confused:

Best regards,

SirDoHa :laugh:
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
I am using this xposed modules. And I flashed this system ui ( Xperia X systemUI ported to Xperia Z5)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
you don't need to, 2.3 will have it. Btw, 2.3 may or may not be released very soon.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
[MENTION=7021541]_LLJY [/MENTION]Big thanks for your work and [MENTION=5111503]Nimadroid[/MENTION] for his mod to convert to single sim Roms to dual. I am waiting for 2.3 too.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Nimadroid:
Your welcome bro
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
thanks man, 2.3 will be available to beta team today, i will release it if everything is okay.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Grac3k:
Icons?

How to remove this 3 icons? (battery lvl, internet speed and ram)

Thanks! :D
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Grac3k:
Moduls

Can u give links for xposed moduls and say how to remove internet speed at the top?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Internet speed will be removed in 2.3
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
If you flash Xperia X systemUI ported to z5, Internet speed not showing. I think all of xposed modules can be found on xposed installer app on download tab.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] gusbeto37:
Hey guys, this is the first ROM I flashed. I had unlocked bl and succesfully started up TWRP. I was on 6.0 version.

I flashed this via zip file with TWRP and now its been almost an hour stuck on the white "Sony Xperia" screen. I tried keeping the power button pressed, but it does not turn off.

Is this normal? Should I just wait longer?

EDIT: I managed to turn it off and boot into fastboot, now I am installing a stock firmware. But how should I install this ROM?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
It would be very awesome if V2.3 have the ability of receiving OTA update from you instead of flashing new version of this ROM.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Unfortunately it's really really hard to setup OTA properly, ive done it before, and it failed.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Btw, when will V2.3 released? I'm so eager to try it :p
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
V2.3 will be released very very soon, if the latest beta boots, i will release it
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
update: it just booted, Xposed is running fine and good. DualSim bug is still here though.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
I worked my ass off for this update, show me some love by clicking the thanks button.

V2.3: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591023225178703
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
I can only click once, sorry :p:highfive:

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There's an error with the server for now, I'll try it again later.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Now: V2.3: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591023225178703
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] islanders:
hey dude i'm ont android 6.0.1, .253 can i just flash this rom via twrp ?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
I can't access to settings... [MENTION=6791680]_LLJY[/MENTION] Can you provide me the Settings.apk please.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] srubamkg78:
settings do not work confirm e6653
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Extract it from 2.2.1
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Settings is fine here though
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
I don't have any previous rom to extract it :silly:
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24572369242688471
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] srubamkg78:
I installed the rom twice 2.2.1 still no settings
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
Are you suggesting download another 1.3 Gb of data just to extract settings.apk? :eek:
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] srubamkg78:
Can I ask you about the apk. setting xperia x?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] islanders:
sorry fot this silly question i'm a beginner :/ , how to install xposed ?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
upgrading from 2.2.1 to 2.3

Settings is gone and dual sim too

lockscreen animation is weird, scrolling bottom to up do an animation left to right, also that animation seems bugged

Re-applying Dual Enabler Z5 (E6633-83) fix the dual sim.

Still wondering how I can get back the setting app..

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did try a reflash as fresh install, setting app is missing :-/
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] ramyanihh:
Can't Access Settings. What should i do? replace the settings from previous build?

EDIT: I fixed the settings by replacing the Settings.apk.

1. Copy the Settings.apk from Previous Build v.2.2.1

2. Paste it on the zip of Version 2.3 /system/priv-app/settings

This is the Settings.apk of v2.2.1

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7-UMCuGTSB4UXc3TVdjWDNsX3M
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] srubamkg78:
http://xdaforums.com/xposed
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
new version does make the phone reboot sometimes.

It does:

black screen + led blinking red, then reboot

black screeen frozeen, need to be rebooter with power + volume up

black screen + vibrator at max, then reboot

Cheers,
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
On what occasions ?

Thanks
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
I have done a fresh install, by patching the setting.apk 2.3 with the one of 2.2.1 as no setting app was there.

Then I apply the following mod:

- performance mod as state on first post

- Dual Enabler Z5 (E6633-83) (as w/o it, the dual sim isn't recognize)

- Last version of Xposed framework

The first crash occurs after the install, when I did launch Google Photos, after the first wizard screen, it did crash like that:

black screen + led blinking red, then reboot

The second issue occurs, that I did shutdown the screen, then 1 minute later try to wakeup the phone, it was frozen, adb show the devices, but as it wasnt authorized (as on the lockscreen), I cannot get any logcat. Only way to reboot phone was to force it by power up + volume up.

The third issue when I lock the phone, it suddenly: black screen (as I do press the power button)+ vibrator at max, then reboot

2.3 is maybe less stable but more responsive and the phone is less warm.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
Please install the ROM first with dual sim enabled ONLY

Performance mod might not be needed (and cause instability) unless _LLJY states otherwise,

Also please at least set up the device and evaluate its operation first before continuing to install XPosed

(that should be pretty-selfexplanatory; but: Stock ROMs tends to cause trouble when XPosed and other mods are all flashed at once during initial flashing)

so - after you've tested and ensured that all work well, do a TWRP Backup,

then after that you can install XPosed and see whether everything works well, too

Bonus: you have a backup you can quickly restore in case XPosed messes up the ROM
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Ukiya8:
any updates for dual sim 2.3? Thanks
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Zaisesl:
I installed via flashtool .253 but when i flash via twrp the zip of the rom i get a bootloop. I dont know why .Im using a E6653. Thanks
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zwillhill:
does there any version support z5c?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
currently uploading 2.3.1 please be patient.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Please click that thanks button, I did this very early in the morning.

2.3.1

- Fixes Dual Sim

- Fixes All issues in 2.3

- Fixes No Fingerprint Hardware issue

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591023225178728
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] NertySorption:
Installed 2.3.1 on E6653 and can confirm that settings are back. So far everything is working well. Appreciate the quick turnaround to fix the issues on 2.3!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] tasmaniandevil:
Done a freah install on my e6683 and it can't detect my SIM cards
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Try the dual sim patch in the forum
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] tasmaniandevil:
Thanks. It worked. Thought it is not required anymore in 2.3.1. :)

Any chance to include the xperia Chinese keyboard into the build?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] flameteam:
How to ınstall E6603 ?? need some help !
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Next time just leave a reply or quote my shorter posts anyways for E6603, download V1.1 and the PurePerformance mod,when prompted for your device when flashing, select E6653/E6603(ignore any errors) and then flash the PurePerformance mod after that.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] flameteam:
where is recovery.img and boot.img ? help please .
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
There is no recovery.img, the boot.img is located at /aur/devices/E6653
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] flameteam:
İs compatible E6603 :)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
The E6653 Kernel is compatible with E6603
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] xOBii:
for e6633

currently downloading. Will install and update back. Reports on v1.1.

edit1:- Booting faster then before. will update checking other things.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] theintelligent:
Dual SIM functionality not working
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] amunarjoh:
I flashed on E6853. Enters bootloop at SIM-card unlock screen. Anybody else experiensing the same? Any solutions to it?

EDIT********

Being more specific; what happens is that the screen reloads every second, making it impossible to enter anything.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] peter.schwake@gmail.com:
In the morning I did a clean flash v1 without any problems. Only the startup time was very long, much longer than originally RomAur. In fact I felt asleep during startup. =) As I wake up, I take a look at this thread and flashed v1.1 with fullwipe. Startup take a lot of time, but the Rom works stable and without any problems. Especially no random reboots or frozen system (with RomAur my phone was very unstable). I will give you a better feedback in the next days. And sorry for my bad English =)

- Sony Xperia Z5 6653

- Sunkernel latest

- came from RomAur 3.2
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] flameteam:
Its Worked :) good Job Bro
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Rubensss:
Me too feel the same in E6853 . Bootloop screen unlock sim card . We hope some solution :(
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zebasketteur:
Hi guy, I have a problem, the screen rotate is fully bug. When it's activated, the smartphone turn at left the screen turn at right, and when the smartphone turn at right the screen rotate at left... If you could resolve it =)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] peter.schwake@gmail.com:
Before you use this Rom , you should flash stock .185 firmware with flashtool. The problem is caused by the updated kernel . Flash stock firmware and after that the rom. I had the same as I flashed newest androplus-kernel .

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The problem with unlocking sim is caused by sony launcher. You should update it to 10.0.A.0.40. Then turn your device off, insert your sim again and start. Here is the link:

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/app-xperia-home-10-0-0-40-t3369220
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] rajdeep312:
Mine working like charm on E6683
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] korom42:
Great work will download this when I am back to home

Does it include the Xperia X lockscreen ?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Try flashing the PurePerformance X Mod its a very good mod and gives u extremely good performance. It will be integrated into the rom in V1.2
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Yes it does
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] -DM-:
[MENTION=6791680]_LLJY[/MENTION]

working fine on Z5p E6853 here...did a dirty flash from RomAur-v3.1

doesn't show 6.0.1 but I couldn't care less about it ;) but is that the right kernel though?!

Also would be possible to add unlimited tiles in quicksettings that would help with gravitybox to hook into the systemUI as it doesn't work right now but does work with RomAur which has unlimited tiles...

Other than that...everything works fine and smooth, RomAur-v3.2 was giving "android starting" at every boot that's why I was still on 3.1...your rom which is based on 3.2 doesn't so getting best of both world ;)

thanks
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] karrouma:
Bro how you install.

You instal a kernel first or same as stock kernel.

I have unlocked bootloader and stick kernel on my e6683.

Any help
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
???Google pinyin?xperia ???????????*?????i will add Google pinyin next update. Sorry for my horrible Chinese grammar.

I personally prefer Google pinyin and I suggest that you try it. I will add Google pinyin in V2.4
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
Agree with you Google pinyin is better ;)

Most of the issue that I have occurs when the phone is charging.

Testing the 2.3.1 now, will let you know
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
Seems more stable, but got a crash when I did add a google account through Gmail App.

Let me know how I can get logs for you guys when that issue occurs.

Cheers,
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] korom42:
is xposed working fine with ROM ? cause I finished with infit botloops with

stock firmware .253 + Stock rooted kernel RIC and DRM off + Xperia X SystemUI + Xposed v86/86.1 + Lucky patcher ( xposed module activated )

I don't know how is it for this ROM
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] srubamkg78:
re

xposed working fine:) is ok

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great respect for you for the hard work in the Appendix at night to fix the update, and, in general for this rom
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
I am still getting some random freeze or reboot.

It occurs any time, on any kind of action: launching an app, changing google play to the next music, etc..

Any idea how I could trace that to give logs about it?

Cheers,

Thanks,
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] lampard464:
2.3.1 random reboot and freeze.not stable
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] serpico84:
Random reboot and freeze 2.3.1 but when it works, it's very smooth. Not stable :(
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
You guys use XPosed ?

or other invasive apps (Kernel Adiutor, Overclocking, etc. etc.) ?

Stable so far for me, gotta test more though :good:

Thanks :)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] serpico84:
No, i' m not using xposed nor other invasive app. But I have randoms reboots every 10 min.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] doudou_fr:
It doesn't come from xposed as the same mods does work on 2.2.1 for me.

Did try without it, I do have the same issue, so I did go back to 2.2.1 :-/
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
why after flashing v 2.3.1 in about phone build number is 224?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Because the Dual Sim Enabler Patch by [MENTION=5111503]Nimadroid[/MENTION] will modify the build.prop and change the build version into .224 ND (I think ND is Nima Droid)

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For anyone's Z5 occurs BOOTLOOP or RANDOM REBOOT or UNSTABLE WORKING after installing Xposed in V2.3.1, I suggest using Xposed Framework Systemless instead of the Official Version. It's much stable and won't cause interrupt issue with the system.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
[MENTION=6791680]_LLJY[/MENTION] is the v2.3.1 kernel has been updated to 253?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
V2.3.1 is blazing fast! Got 93k in Antutu :good:

Thanks [MENTION=6791680]_LLJY[/MENTION] for such a great ROM!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] manolis.camenos@gmail.com:
I tried 2.31 rom two times. Only bootloops. My previous rom was z5 xpower v.3.0. z5 couldn't open not even once. In the first try the phone crashed at the boot animation, afer that only bootloop. Why?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Try flashing SuperSU 2.76 immediately after flashing rom and please don't quote the whole goddamn post.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
.224 and .253 kernels are the same.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] korom42:
I with older fw kernels I used to 10-15 % battery drain during night without any reason

now with .253 stock kernel (RIC and DRM OFF , X-reality works) I'm having 0% drain during night :D

:o
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] s.hossein:
the xperia x setting and - Xperia X Smart Cleaner was remowed on 2.3.1?

-
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] manolis.camenos:
Thank you, I will try and I'll tell you, sorry for the whole post:)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Lanxy:
So.....is there any reason to use this rom if we have SlimX now, and I remember you said SlimX=X ROM.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
<-- please read OP,

also X ROM is the successor to Slim X, no ?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] lampard464:
My phone e6603 ?

E6653 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Phazonclash:
2.3.1. Looks like Xperia X Settings + Smart Cleaner are missing
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Had to remove it, X Settings was causing issues
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Slimx was just an experiment
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Phazonclash:
Thanks for the info ;)

Everything else works great so far. Excellent battery life. Awesome ROM
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
X Rom 1.0-2.0 was slimx's predecessor. X Rom 2.3 is slimx's successor
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
Off topic easter egg is the clock on lockscreen, looks good :highfive:

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@_LLJY List of things I would like to see :

http://xdaforums.com/z3/development/rom-existenz-y-1-0-0-02-07-t3148877
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Lanxy:
I see. So this is still the main ROM for Z5, I just rememeber you said that, that ROM will replace this one.

Either way, nice rom, put it to my friend's phone and he seems to be happy.

Btw, multi window and "pull down bar" from Android N are from Dev.prew.1 or newer? (Considering to put it as well. Z5 I mean...when it will be arived)
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] malekpoor024:
no e6633 device

no suuport e6633 device?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] Dakiller1009:
Hey man I Absolutely love this rom! especially after 2.3.1. Just have an issue with the phone freezing then restarting with the red led flashing? on the e6653. Have done every wipe and reinstalled, still happening sadly
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] tommylittle02:
Noob here.

What are the requirements for flashing the rom?

I'm assuming unlocked bootloader?

I'm using xperia Z5 (E6653) pretty much stock everything (build .224) with unlocked bootloader.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
flash E6683 then flash supersu, then flash dual sim patch
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
both are from DP1
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] a2000:
Fantastic work! Thank you! Although there are some issues regarding telephone instability. Love this rom. Cant wait for the next version.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] samsul:
Hi,

Can I install this on E6633 running 32.2.A.0.253, if so how?

Thanks
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] rajdeep312:
I want do underclock big cores and little cores is underclocking possible in 2.3.1 ising e6683
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Of course you can! Choose the E6683 dsds on Aroma Installer Screen

Flash Dual Enabler Zip and supersu
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
Leave those alone, I optimised the thermal engine to take care of overheating. They shouldn't be too much of an issue.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] samsul:
Thanks - does my device need to be rooted?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
Yes.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] samsul:
Any idea how I can root 32.2.A.0.253?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] albertobom:
You can start reading this http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z5/general/guide-sony-xperia-z5-unlock-root-tweaks-t3298224/page24
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
No, you don't have to root your device.

Flash twrp.img from AndroPlus via fastboot

Boot into TWRP and flash Xperia X ROM Zip

Then flash the Dual Enabler Patch by [MENTION=5111503]Nimadroid[/MENTION]

Afterwards, flash the supersu.zip by ChainFire

Finally, boot up your phone and enjoy!

PS: This method works for me (E6683)

Feel free to "thanks" if it works for u!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] samsul:
Thanks - I will try. Do you have the link for twrp.img from AndroPlus?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Here u r: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24533100289589796
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] samsul:
Thanks - I take it I just install boot.img using fastboot?
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] sirdoha:
Install it via fastboot using command"

Fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.0.2-0-E6653-20160504.img
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] rajdeep312:
Thanx but on stock my z5 temp eaisly reach 53c

So i wAnt to underclock
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] lionelbac:
Love the rom, but how can I get the original icon pack? (including wifi signal indcator). Thanks a lot and keep developing!
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] ZiTrOz:
thanks for this amazing ROM, keep doing such an awesome job.
[Xperia Z5 Android Development] _LLJY:
53c is nothing dude -.- 85c is where you should start worrying. Below that is perfectly A ok