yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xposed General] culiacanazo:
I tried a lot of things, too. Searched up and down, etc. I've ended up having to install, without removing my systemless installation, the system one. And it shows up green and systemlessly.

But I'm just sharing my story.

Let me know what you end up doing and how it turns out for you.
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
Been a long time since someone ask about that issue... I don't remember anymore, but did you use the latest xposed installer by dvdandroid? A sign that xposed was successfully installed is the optimizing of apps during boot...
[Xposed General] SavageRobot:
Yes I ended up doing that last time actually too, just thought if there is a correct fix. Guess I'll just do this again.

Yes I have today actually deleted old dvdandroid one and installed the latest but still same story.

Can't remember if it optimised when I first did it or not, I'm sure it did but that's why I cleared cache to force optimisation in case.

Thanks anyway guys.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Are you sure that it had not changed anything in /system? Because the installer isn't made to detect systems versions and should just install it to /system, so you actually have both normal and systmless installed and the systemless is detected so it shows systmless but the normal version is the one running since the systmless has an error.
[Xposed General] culiacanazo:
I didn't check, but the installer reads systemless
[Xposed General] supercloud:
Hello,

I have a Note 4 SM-N910F with latest Magisk and Xposed 87.1 installed. Everything works so far but RootSwitch won't let me disable Xposed - it says: "Do not support systemless xposed".

Did I do something wrong? I thought RootSwitch worked with systemless xposed?
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
No, as stated in the app, it doesn't work with systemless xposed...
[Xposed General] JanetWee:
nougat

I just updated my phone to the latest firmware and viper rom6.1 and I have magisk but want to get xposed. Do you know which one I download?

Running nougat android 7.0
[Xposed General] hansonchen:
There's no xposed for Nougat yet. Read this:

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3034811&page=5
[Xposed General] hiimpig1:
I install this xposed and my cts failing down, anyway to use this with safetynet ?
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
No. Most likely not
[Xposed General] culiacanazo:
:laugh:
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
When I'm already here... You just have to force them to the right thread, otherwise the beta thread will soon be as cluttered add this or the official thread
[Xposed General] hedak:
Do you have further info on that pre-november 2016 ROM (some links maybe)? Is this statement still valid?

(I couldn't find useful info, maybe because I'm looking for the wrong keywords.)

Regrads and many thanks to topjohnwu :)
[Xposed General] EViollet:
Hi.

Unfortunately, no. This depends on your phone. You need to find a ROM for your phone that is not Nougat and built before November 2016,

After that, you'll need systemless superSU, suhide, AND rootswitch.

This is not a very comfortable setup. And, as I wrote, I firmly believe that you'll be better off with a recent Nougat ROM and letting go of Xposed. I'm sure you can find a solution to 90% percent of what's bringing you back to Xposed.

Regards
[Xposed General] hedak:
Thanks for responding that quick :)

Since I didn't get USB MASS STORAGE Enabler working on my Galaxy S7 (delivered with Nougat) I downgraded to Marshmallow and there was nothing else to do but installing Magisk (v12) :o Just for interest I also installed Xposed systemless and - surprise - it worked as well! I only need to disable Xposed via Xposed installer switch and reboot to pass Safetynet. So it's almost perfect - my 90% solution ;)

I already found a MM rom from oktober 2016. You said "systemless superSU". Magisk is also fine I guess? If you agree, I'll try :cyclops:

Best regards
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
His method is the only one not needing the reboot part. But yes, if you are willing to reboot to pass SN without uninstalling or having the system to recompile then your method works too if course.
[Xposed General] DiDaR R.:
my device doesnt support Xposed framework. Please help.

Im using minimal os v3 Android 5.1.1 kernel 3.4.67 armv7 r3 v71 .when my devices has 4.4 kitkat,i was used Xposed installer 2.4.1 because i tried hard for flashing Xposed latest and get bootloop.but only Xposed 2.4.1 version is supported for my phone.And now in my lollipop device i have tried many Xposed framework but no good result(bootloop again).

Sir please told me that what can i do in this situation for flashing Xposed framework.:confused:

My phone name is-Symphony E78

Thanks alot...:good:
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Well, if the official version isn't working for you and it seems not that it's one of the companies having a dedicated version. So if Magisk is working but not this XPosed you probably need an AOSP ROM since it doesn't look like your device or its OEM has enough users that it could find support soon if no XPosed version is working at the moment
[Xposed General] Dexter666:
Is there a systemless xposed for tw based MM roms ?
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
This one. It's based on Wanam's XPosed. So as long as you don't have 5.0 it will work. For 5.0 you'll need a special version and s deodexed ROM
[Xposed General] gothicVI:
Hi all, I'm facing the exact same problem. Upon installing magisk (v.12) and xposed (v.87.0) via TWRP everything went fine. Starting magisk I was prompted the information that there'a an update for xposed (v.87.1) available which I installed. Since then I'm getting xposed installed but not active, even after using the uninstaller and reflashing via TWRP. From this point it does not matter which version of xposed (87.0 or 87.1) I flash; the message remains the same...

I'm using the latest xposed installer and am running android 6.0.1 (lineageos13) on thea.

I actually cleared cache and ART cache several times after each attempt to get xposed working and even bootet without having xposed installed...

Anyone able to help me please :crying: :confused:
[Xposed General] ldeveraux:
As best I can tell, the 87.1 update is only for SDK 21. You are SDK 23.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Wrong. There are versions for 21, 22 and 23
[Xposed General] gothicVI:
Nope, it's explicitly for SDK 23. However, even reverting back to 87.0 isn't solving the issue...

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[Xposed General] Sam Nakamura:
After an attempt to install systemless xposed on my lineageOS 13 device via magisk manager I get an error, installer says xposed framework is installed but not active, in another incident on another device I could simply delete the "disabled" file from /data/data but this seems to be unrelated here, Log says cannot locate "*_callback_classE referenced in libxposed_art.so"...

someone with an idea of what's going on here?

(see screenshot attached)

Edit: somehow overlooked the "Dolby Atmos Bug" mentioned on at least one report by a user, as soon as Dolby Atmos Module was uninstalled xposed installer started working again...
[Xposed General] riahc3:
I'm not a fan of having this in the Xposed section. It's sort of baiting people to leave Xposed for Magisk.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
No, since Magisk will not be able to replace XPosed that's just simply wrong.

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Then you'll have to start fresh
[Xposed General] Sam Nakamura:
Xposed and Magisk are different things with different capabilities.. Xposed injects code where Magisk only helps to tweak systemlessly, remember you can systemlessly install xposed with magisk but even magisk uses the phrasing "modules" to it's not even close in functionality, they aren't competing, so don't worry...
[Xposed General] ldeveraux:
Oh, not listed in the OP. Where to find it then?
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Magisk manager?
[Xposed General] ldeveraux:
I don't see it? I have no notifications of update? It's still not in the OP here?
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
...in the download section? At the very bottom of the list?
[Xposed General] ldeveraux:
In all seriousness, I'm on CM13 still, and the bottom of my list has version 87.1 for SDK 21. I don't dare download it!
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Then maybe just clear the repo cache on settings. It's there for month now.

Maybe Google for the Magisk repo, should be on GitHub. There should be all modules. Download it from there, but it's possible that Magisk manager will say it can't flash it. Then it's a problem with downloading from GitHub because it puts the files into another folder which the manager doesn't expect. Unpack it and rezip what's inside the folder you should get
[Xposed General] ldeveraux:
I guess that was it, clearing the cache, thanks! :good:
[Xposed General] gothicVI:
Any option to prevent wiping data would be highly appreciated...

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[Xposed General] post-mortem:
You can try a dirty flash of your existing ROM. If it doesn't work, you can use Titanium Backup to create an update.zip of all your chosen apps, then clean install your ROM, then flash the update.zip.

Now you know to backup before flashing things!
[Xposed General] gothicVI:
Actually I have a backup. I seriously forgot about that option - lol.

Thanks for the dirty flash hint. Will try that first.

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[Xposed General] AngryUserLG:
Got the xposed systemlessly working but the safetynet check failed, anyone know how to fix this?
[Xposed General] Didgeridoohan:
That age old question... And the answer is always the same: disable or uninstall Xposed.

And for the almost certain followup question: No. It doesn't matter if it's systemless, it'll still trigger SafetyNet.
[Xposed General] Ardany Jolón:
Facebook and Messenger stop having Xposed enabled recently :(
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Either a bug or they included SN check. Already tried when passing SN (=disabling XPosed)?
[Xposed General] Ardany Jolón:
Xposed disabled= FB and MR works fine

Xposed enabled= FB and MR stops ever
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Try the lite versions of the apps. If they have the same problem either learn to live without them or without XPosed... Or use alternative clients like MDFacebook or something like that. It's a client basically letting you do what you can do with the two apps, only in one app. The question is only how long Facebook allows these clients
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
It's probably in your setup... still working here... try disabling your xposed modules...
[Xposed General] tbox963:
Hello,

I install Magisk and download (and install) Xposed by Magisk Manager (SDK 23)

Next, I install Material Design Xposed Installer from first link

After install I get warning "Xposed Framework version 87.0 (Systemless by [MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION]) is Installed but not active[...]"

In logs I have java exception

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B66U6YTX1PZWdDlsWXl1LWtVQmM&export=download

Help :(

My device: Xiaomi Redmi 4A, unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery, rooted by Magisk, MIUI 8 (Xiaomi.eu ROM but this is like Global ROM)
[Xposed General] EViollet:
Hi.

I may be mistaken, but it seems that MIUI 8 is a Nougat ROM. And there is no Xposed for Nougat.

So it won't work.

Regards.
[Xposed General] tbox963:
No, I have Android 6.0.1

Edit: I try reinstall Xposed Framework (remove and install) by Magisk but this don't fix my problem :(
[Xposed General] NikolaRS035:
You might wanna check this out.

https://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-miui-t3367634
[Xposed General] tbox963:
Yup, this will probably work

Edit: Yea, I find Magisk version MIUI Xposed and work! Thanks!
[Xposed General] Ardany Jolón:
I have done a clean installation to see if it works and everything is good for the moment, although I have not installed any module xposed, I will try and comment later or tomorrow if it works with installed and enabled modules.
[Xposed General] Telperion:
86.6 doesn't pass SafetyNet for me, 86.5 does, but I'm getting errors in the log. 86.2 gave same errors. Is there a fix for this or is it a live-with-it kind of scenario?

05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): -----------------
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): Starting Xposed version 86.5 (Systemless by topjohnwu), compiled for SDK 23
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): Device: XT1042 (motorola), Android version 6.0.1 (SDK 23)
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): ROM: cm_peregrine-userdebug 6.0.1 M4B30X 22d7f400a6 test-keys
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): Build fingerprint: motorola/peregrine_usc/peregrine:4.4.4/KXB21.14-L1.41/41:user/release-keys
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): Platform: armeabi-v7a, 32-bit binary, system server: yes
05-31 22:16:24.933 I/Xposed ( 949): SELinux enabled: yes, enforcing: yes
05-31 22:16:24.948 I/Xposed ( 949): -----------------
05-31 22:16:24.948 I/Xposed ( 949): Added Xposed (/magisk/xposed/system/framework/XposedBridge.jar) to CLASSPATH
05-31 22:16:25.115 I/Xposed ( 949): Forcing image recompilation because /data/dalvik-cache/arm/system@framework@boot.art is not compiled for the current Xposed version
05-31 22:17:11.743 I/Xposed ( 949): Detected ART runtime
05-31 22:17:11.745 I/Xposed ( 949): Found Xposed class 'de/robv/android/xposed/XposedBridge', now initializing
05-31 22:17:32.607 I/Xposed ( 1847): Forcing image recompilation because /data/dalvik-cache/arm/system@framework@boot.art is not compiled for the current Xposed version
05-31 22:17:32.687 I/Xposed ( 1848): Forcing image recompilation because /data/dalvik-cache/arm/system@framework@boot.art is not compiled for the current Xposed version
05-31 22:17:36.461 I/Xposed ( 1872): Forcing image recompilation because /data/dalvik-cache/arm/system@framework@boot.art is not compiled for the current Xposed version
05-31 22:17:36.535 I/Xposed ( 1873): Forcing image recompilation because /data/dalvik-cache/arm/system@framework@boot.art is not compiled for the current Xposed version
[Xposed General] Valiante:
Just curious as to if [MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION] is planning on making a version of Xposed that passes Safetynet?
[Xposed General] topjohnwu:
I would like to make one, but that isn't possible, at least with the current MagiskHide mechanisms.
[Xposed General] Valiante:
Hm, is there some way to toggle Xposed without the need for a reboot?
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
No
[Xposed General] dextro_96:
Installing systemless Xposed on Redmi Note 3 (kenzo) running Lineage OS rom

I wanted to ask can I use systemless xposed using Magisk manager on Android 7.1.2. I tried to install the xposed framework (systemless) from magisk downloads section and it didnt work , tried flashing the file using TWRP, and found that the latest version is for SDK 23 , while I am in SDK 25. SO can I use systemless xposed? or do I have to use just magisk?
[Xposed General] DragonFire1024:
I doubt it, but can a systemless xposed be installed onto an Amazon Fire 8 HD, 2016?
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
[UNOFFICIAL][Magisk][Nov 28] Xposed v87.0 - Universal Systemless Compatibility

No...

Magisk yes

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Just try the one that corresponds to your sdk... Make sure to backup just in case...
[Xposed General] DragonFire1024:
I downloaded the Xposed installer a few days ago and it automatically detects your device and chooses the proper download. Just a question: What real benefits do I get from this on an unrooted device?
[Xposed General] Keudn:
Where can I download v68.2? PokemonGo detects the newest version of Xposed and it sounds like from my googling that v68.2 passes the safetynet checks.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
XPosed can do much more than root, in fact I don't know if XPosed modules even really need root for anything. For all I know Greenify for example was already changed to use either root or XPosed but not both.

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It doesn't. For all I remember that was the last version compatible with suhide. But that is discontinued long ago so that's why you probably won't find anything anymore
[Xposed General] DragonFire1024:
So if you have root, Greenify won't have to option to use Xposed?
[Xposed General] Telperion:
I've gotten 86.2, 86.5, and 87.0 working with Magisk 12 (and 11.6), SuperSU 2.82 (and 2.79), and suhide 0.55 (and 0.54) on a device with the 10/2016 security patch (XT1042 with CM13). All of them pass SafetyNet. For 87.0, I unpacked those files into the 86.5 zip and updated the module info.

My problem though, as I mentioned up above, has to do with suhide interfering with the app optimization that Xposed performs on boot. Xposed still works but it throws up continual log errors because it has to recompile on a near constant basis when a module is in use. This naturally bogs down device performance in a major way.

I tried moving 05suhide out of /su/su.d/ and rebooting, which allowed Xposed to properly optimize but didn't pass SafetyNet. Putting 05suhide back into the folder and rebooting passes SafetyNet again, but floods the recompile errors again and slows the device down. That was suggested in either this thread or another thread, but apparently the re-introduction of 05suhide interferes with Xposed enough to create the errors. If anyone has any ideas for how to fix the recompile errors, let me know.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
No, if you have it as XPosed module, it shouldn't request root permissions.

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There privacy is none. Otherwise you would have many sites explaining how. Suhide was discontinued for a reason
[Xposed General] Telperion:
AFAIK, suhide was discontinued because Chainfire disagreed conceptually and philosophically with attempting to conceal root. Unless there are other reasons I'm unaware of.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
He discontinued it only because it was a fight he couldn't win. And since Magisk came up there was no reason to continue
[Xposed General] Telperion:
Well in the mean time, I fixed my problem.

I moved 05suhide, rebooted device, and Xposed did it's thing on all my apps. I then copied the offending .art and .oat files into a backup folder. I copied 05suhide back into su.d, rebooted device. As expected on reboot it had wiped out all of the dex's and art's and Xposed optimizations. I restored them to /data/dalvik-cache/[architecture] and all of the Xposed log errors went away.

Net result is I'm running Xposed 12, SuperSU 2.82, suhide 0.55, and Xposed 86.5, all while passing SafetyNet, no errors in any logs, no RootSwitch toggles, and Xposed modules working as expected (on a device with October 2016 security patch).
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
Magisk actually came out first before suhide... It was made in response to the way magisk terminate root before with toggle, he disagreed with this method of permanently disabling root so he made suhide (to just hide root)... Then hidesu of phh came out, magisk adopted it and is now called magiskhide (old toggle to switch root on magisk was removed)... ?
[Xposed General] jbenitez821:
can i have magisk and system less xposed framework using xposed installer (material design) and pass safetynet?
[Xposed General] teddy0209:
Yes, if you disable xposed...
[Xposed General] Telperion:
Anybody want to test? I put together a zip of all the tools you need and the instructions for what to do in what order. This works on multiple XT1042 devices that I've tested but they're running the same ROM (with October 2016 security patch) so I can't yet say how it will work on other devices and ROMs, especially ones with November and newer patches. My main device is on Nougat.

I just need a few volunteers on various devices of varying security patch dates. It should go without saying that you should have a backup boot image saved and know how to get out of a boot loop.
[Xposed General] jbenitez821:
I'll try it I have a Xperia xa running January security patch:good:
[Xposed General] Manok98:
I can try with LG-E975, and a galaxy S6. I have also a galaxy S2, but the I9100 doesn't support magisk and the BootImagePatcher...
[Xposed General] NathanBrake:
I volunteer to try on Lenovo A6000, custom ROM Lineage 14.1 (Nougat), security patch may 5.
[Xposed General] Telperion:
There is no Xposed for Nougat, I appreciate the willingness though to help test
[Xposed General] grymkmb:
I also volunteer to test. Galaxy S7 running a MM TW-based Rom. Security patch from 1 December 2016.
[Xposed General] Telperion:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0zE1Kk8sIB6NHA0TnF4VnliRTA

The standard disclaimer applies of me not being responsible if anything goes horribly wrong. These steps work on my XT1042, no promises for other devices and ROMs.
[Xposed General] brian 11:
Is the appsytemizer no longer compatible with magisk I can't get it to work with the newest version I've gone back to older versions and it still won't install. I have a lg k550 n 7.0. It worked before on the same phone.
[Xposed General] Artim_96:
Wrong thread, this is only XPosed for Magisk.

For that module, best would be just ask is dev
[Xposed General] Telperion:
A little background on the multiple versions of topjohnwu's systemless Xposed ports, from trial and error. I don't fully understand what's different now, just that it is different. I know enough bash scripting to follow along with the flash script but I don't know the technical details enough to explain why one format works and the other doesn't. Perhaps [MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION] can weigh in?

86.2 -- Xposed is stored in /data/su.img and mounted to /su/xposed/, Magisk doesn't know it exists (but it's compatible). Uses old-style Magisk flash zip, passes SafetyNet when suhide is added (0.54 or 0.55)

86.5 -- Xposed is stored in data/magisk.img and mounted to /magisk/xposed/, works with either MagiskSU or SuperSU, passes SafetyNet when used with SuperSU and suhide (0.54 or 0.55)

86.6 -- Stored in magisk.img, uses the most current Magisk Mod zip format, doesn't pass SafetyNet no matter what combination of hide toggles or root solutions are used

87.0 -- Same as 86.6

When topjohnwu changed the zip format from his 86.5 release to the 86.6 release, something about the way it's flashed now is detected by SafetyNet even with MagiskHide and suhide active. On his official (unofficial) 86.2 and 86.5 releases, they don't pass SafetyNet with MagiskSU and MagiskHide, they only pass SafetyNet with SuperSU and suhide.

What I've done is taken the 87.0 files and put them in the old Magisk Mod zip from 86.5. This allows us to flash the latest Xposed version but still benefit from however that zip file is flashing differently that allows SuperSU/suhide to mask the Xposed installation.

If more people with multiple different devices can get SafetyNet to pass using this combination, maybe topjohnwu can take a look at why his previous 86.2/86.5 zips can pass SafetyNet but 86.6 & 87.0 can't. It's not the newer Xposed versions that are preventing it from passing SafetyNet, it's something about the flash script that's changed. Also perhaps he may be able to compare and contrast what suhide is doing differently that's masking Xposed when MagiskHide isn't -- not necessary, but it would appear that it's doing something extra and that something extra might be a valuable addition to Magisk as well (if properly attributed of course).