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[Other SmartWatches] emuthebrave:
Problem rooting

I'm want to root my Q1 in order to try the various GPS related "fixes" mentioned in this thread. Unfortunately, when trying to install King Root I get an error message saying "Installation Blocked - This app contains code that attempts to bypass Android's security protections". I checked the "Unknown Sources" option under Security and it is selected so that isn't the problem. Any ideas what else it could be?
[Other SmartWatches] td75:
Have found that this watch has a real problem with sweat getting inside. I find even when not exercising the back cover lets sweat into the watch. I first noticed this when I saw the fake heart rate monitor LEDs flickering. Now have found that both the magnets have started rusting. Does anyone else have a problem with this? Wondering what the best way is to resolve this?
[Other SmartWatches] b_l_c:
I have the same problem as I use this watch for tracking my runs. I haven't fixed it anyway yet. The back cover is pretty snug fit so I don't think you're going to get any insulation fitted there. Maybe something like a silicone spray (which is water repelling) might be one solution?
[Other SmartWatches] acharnleygg:
I haven't had any problem with sweat as of yet, but I don't wear it tight.

I have however noticed the battery is deteriorating. I'e had the watch 2 month now and the battery wear is increasing. Now I get 8hrs to 20% with no use at all and everything other than cell off (no data).
[Other SmartWatches] td75:
Seems like the sweat is coming in by the charging pins. I put some tape over it this evening before my run and no sweat got inside. It's really a poor design.
[Other SmartWatches] acharnleygg:
I found a big problem which I can reproduce.

When charged it says 100% as you might expect but upon restart it says 72%, on which it charges again to 100% again. This time the battery life over a day was much better (28% better roughly!). Somehow the battery is reporting 100% for 72% (usually this is calculated based on voltage) so the charging mechanism/code is broken.
[Other SmartWatches] eemix:
Can this watch be used like a hands free? I Am not intend to insert any sim card. I just want to answer some calls when I am in bike through Bluetooth.

Thanks on advance for any reply...
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
No - that's why it's a stand alone watch phone - it needs a sim card.
[Other SmartWatches] eemix:
:(

I know it's a little bit offtopic, but is there any suggestion for a quality Smartwatch which can answer as a hands free?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
You need a Wear watch

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URGENT WARNING !! - DO NOT use the add watch face option at the end of the installed watch face chain which is an + symbol.

The server used to host the faces available through this option is hosted in China and has terrible trouble delivering the face to the watch.

This quite often ends up with a half installed watch face which then corrupts the launcher database.

It ends with the watch failing to boot correctly to the launcher and the only solution is to flash the watch with original firmware (a scary process for some ! )
[Other SmartWatches] eemix:
Ok. I will do my research.

Is there any known model from which i can start searching?
[Other SmartWatches] reggiexp:
I can buy this for 63euro

But will it be worth it?

I have a moto 360 first gen

Works good. But i don't know why i always wanted a android watch...
[Other SmartWatches] ririo:
Depends what you expect!

Just got mine,

First impressions.

looks and feels good.

Major drawback, I bought it for sports and the Heart rate Monitor doesn't work. I read and watch the first reviews mentioning this functionality but it has disappeared. It's not advertized anymore and the application although there, is hidden ( you have to use a 3rd party launcher (nova) to get to it. Once done you find out that the HRM is not working at all. Don't know if they have fixed it with the new X3s ans X5s

The FINOWATCH.COM is almost empty, a few nice pictures but all downloads are empty, ( manuals, firmware, applications.....) no driver downloads !!!!!

Connection to WINDOWS 10 is a nightmare ( very easy on one of my old XP) After several hours of trial I still haven't found the right drivers.

GPS is fine, but several apps on google play won't download, RUNTASTIC, GPS.RUN ........

Phone Run's OK on my TELCO ( FREE)

When finely tuned battery is ok if you don't expect to use it as a smartphone.

So if you like your moto ??? beware ,

"l'herbe est toujours plus verte en face" I am in Paris so if you need more details you can send me a PM
[Other SmartWatches] reggiexp:
thanks. yeah i got my self onder control. xD didn't buy it. i mean it's fun. a little gadget but yeah 60euro is much for a gadget...

thanks for the awnser.

btw my moto 360 i only use it at work. otherwise it has really no use. i can't use my phone on my work (i work at a shoe shop) but with my watch i can read and reply to things if needed.

at home or when u are not home it's useless cause i can take my phone out of my pocket to see and reply.

Anyway android watches look fun. but whats the use of it. not much.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
I agree with all of you

I have it but if they will not develop an ultralight rom with only the basic functionalities the watch will be useless
[Other SmartWatches] chinesesmartwatch:
Hi guys, I have a problem with Q1. It hangs after booting and I think it's a good idea to factory reset it, but the only way to reset in this situation is the recovery mode, so the question is simple - how to enter recovery mode without using adb (because it shows "unauthenticated device" message).

Any help is highly appreciated!
[Other SmartWatches] snoopy20:
An alternative no doubt of which comes out the same factory: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...25061.html?spm=a2g01.8047711.2169899.7.ZsCuEQ

Less RAM (does it really matter?) but working heart monitor. I like the dock as well.

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Battery update

I have now neutralised the final cpu wakeup issue which was the android calendar. I now have no wakelocks :). If I turn sim off I use 10% in 8hrs. Not bad!

Enabling sim (but keeping data off) kills battery life, 50% in 8hrs.

Both figures are no usage - standby only.
[Other SmartWatches] jindraaaa:
So I've had the Q1 for about 2 weeks now and my impressions are very positive.

Order came to $120cdn including extra customs charge and priority shipping and insurance. I ordered Friday and had the watch in my hands Monday morning. Customs did charge me $20 for import, but that's fine I don't mind paying taxes on a legitimate purchase. I'm using Bell as my carrier and it was simply a matter of taking my nano sim from my current phone and putting it in the watch.

The operating system is surprisingly good and I've had very little network issues. 60MB+ apps have downloaded fine over 3G, the only network drops I've had are associated with network off with screen off not coming back after wake. This has forced me to reboot only twice since owning. When I needed I have also gotten Maps location and navigation although I have tested this very minimally still and I've heard the GPS signal can be very so-so on GPS only mode so YMMV. I've taken a bunch of calls and the quality is totally fine on speaker. Everyone can hear me no problem and the speaker is good enough. OK google recognizes commands very well and the library can be downloaded so it's not doing data every time for a voice command. I'm using this with Nova launcher though as I'm not sure the stock interface has OK google support.

The biggest issue with this watch is the battery life, as soon as you start doing anything with the watch it will go down quite fast. Understandably though since it's a quad core 1.3GHz. It runs GTA Vice City on high settings no problem on a 2 inch screen with a 450mah battery. I have cycled the battery maybe 10 times now?

To remedy battery life, I rooted it with kingoroot and installed SetCPU. I limited the clock to 600mhz. This seems to have helped a lot. The interface is slower but it still works fine for the most part and doesn't get as hot. I only did this last night so I'm not sure how much better my battery life will be now. Vice city still runs fine even at 600mhz, it was a bit slower so I lowered all the settings and its totally fine again. (The game is just a test. It's pretty ridiculous actually playing it on this device, but it works if you are desparate lol)

Overall I'm really happy with the watch, but it will be a bit of a struggle to use it as a primary if that's your plan. Basically you need to use it very minimally only for email/notifications/text, quick google search or phone call if you plan to use it all day without charging. If you're someone that's close to a charger all the time it really isn't much of a problem as a primary aside for the tiny screen usability, which I find I can still text on but I have nimble hands.
[Other SmartWatches] dijitak:
Hi all,

Alot of people here are having trouble with GPS, I was also. It seems it takes a very long time to get the first GPS connection.

I dont want to root my watch (yet) to looked in to a way of fixing the GPS without rooting. The cure (for me) was :

1: Download GPS Test. ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest )

2: Set the watches display time out to as long as possible, 30 mins for me (Settings>Display>Sleep)

3: Set the GPS to device only mode in the watches settings (does not use wifi or the gsm network, this is important) (Settings>Connect>GPS)

4: Open GPS tool and let it start looking for a signal

5: Select 'Clear AGPS' from the menu

6: 1 minute later, select 'Update AGPS' from the menu

7: Put the watch on charge next to an open window with no curtains or anything in the way (have the window as open as possible and make sure no one can steal the watch from your window :D )

8: After 30 min - 1 hour (tap the screen a few times during this time to make sure it doesn't switch off) it should have picked a fair few satellites and have a pretty good lock on your position

9: Exit GPS tool

10: Set the watches screen time out back to what you prefer it to be.

From now on you should be able to get a lock on your position within 20 seconds, well that's what worked for me anyway, I always keep the GPS in 'Device Only' mode as any other setting is worse for me.

Hopefully it will work for you too.
[Other SmartWatches] dijitak:
Does anyone know how to get to the 'standard' lollipop settings menu, not the limited one on this watch?

The standard menu has access to the text to speech settings, advanced audio profiles and many other options.

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] eltowars:
Just need some info

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a reliable phone for a very specific purpose. My daughter is diabetic and she has a glucometer attached which sends the glucose values every 5 minutes via bluetooth. I need a device which can receive these values and send them via 3g to a database to monitor her status. Currently I'm doing it with a motorola moto g (1st generation) and works well. My question is if you think this device (or the round one, x3+) could do the same. Is its 3g powerful enough? Is its bluetooth reliable? Is the hardware capable to b aware every 5 minutes or is it going to be connecting / disconnecting all the time? How long is the batterylife with 3g and bluetooth enabled? (I can turn off evrything else: GPS, wifi, notifications...)

Thank you very much!
[Other SmartWatches] jindraaaa:
So I've figured out how to glitch the full android status bar back after way too much fiddling.

I finally narrowed it down to installing Material Status Bar Lollipop. For whatever reason after I enabled this status bar/gave permissions and disabled it, I'm now able to use the program Swipe Home to expand notifications from Nova Launcher.

So now I have the regular status bar with notifications and power functions when I need it, I've also used Swipe home for "swipe up" bound to Nova launcher and kept the stock Home Launcher as the main for the hardware button.
[Other SmartWatches] gthebest:
Hello. I would like to ask how can I I switched off the pedometer. I think that if it's not working the battery life will extended.
[Other SmartWatches] chinesesmartwatch:
It works with 3g and wi-fi on almost two days. Wi-fi is used to scan periodically and 3g is used to connect to a server a few times per day. So, your need can be fulfilled with the Q1 for a day or two, next you should recharge the watch.

About bluetooth operations - it depends on the second device. It could be a LE version or a classic bluetooth, also it depends on the transmission protocol and so on. But if you have a program that works on the motorolla's device then the program should work the same way on the Q1. You should only check if the program was designed specifically for Android Wear OS (fork of vanilla Android). If it is and you should check if it has support for vanilla Android. If it has - just install it and forget about your questions. If it doesn't - you need another program.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
Please can you be more detailed and give a link to that apk (xposed module?) and how you have configured gestures in nova launcher. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] jindraaa:
You could probably do it with exposed but I don't know. AFAIK just installing Material Status Bar from play store and enabling should do it. For the "Swipe Home" up/down binding I set to Nova launcher expand notfications and then it started working even after uninstalling Material

Warning: It seems whatever I've done has enabled the status bar detection everywhere, so now a bit of the top detects the swipe down causing problems clicking the address bar in firefox for example. (which is probably why it's off in the first place, but I don't mind.

Also anyone know how I can set up ADB bridge over bluetooth for debugging easily? Ive been using Vysor with this at my desk over USB but would like to try this tethered over bluetooth to my tablet for screencast.

EDIT:

Seems this status bar globally thing happened after uninstalling Material. I ended up reinstalling Material Status Bar and it fixed the status bar everywhere again. Not sure what is going on but I didn't need to give it permissions to actually work, just installing it fixed me not being able to click the URL easily in web browser. I might just leave it disabled installed for now until people get farther with xposed.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
THis is the 2nd layer of protection that you can disable permanently from the "google settings" app on your watch. However,You can bypass this on one time basis too. Scroll down further on that warning screen and you will get an option to allow the installation.

[IMG="override security"]https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=imgres&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-TwKv9n4EazY%2FVxM90QI_fZI%2FAAAAAAAABZI%2Fu0-kmhuN_CIKc7jXodfvNkPMhubUZg1DgCLcB%2Fs1600%2FScreenshot_2016-04-17-12-56-00.png&psig=AFQjCNGkiWlY_Dr3usGDOmB-lzchwS3jZw&ust=1476154239003219[/IMG]

I did it that way using kingoroot (not king root). After rooting, remember to uninstall kingo's superuser app and install supersu from playstore.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
Tested ClockSkins for Q1

Attached. Use the method here to install.

These are from the awesome google plus group "Square Android Smartwatches" . It's a very active group. I think the members are here on xda too. Got a lot of tips there. Hope you join and contribute too.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
I had my mind set on a round watch too. But When you discover the functionality of these watches, you really don't care. The awesomeness is all inside! Plus the quare face makes it easier to navigate and watch videos! :)
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
Statusbar

Hi jindraaa, tried it but still no go, cant pull the statusbar from any launcher or program, which FW do you have? I dont have latest, because of twrp.
[Other SmartWatches] jindraaa:
Hm weird, I'm on FW 630. There were a bunch of other settings I played with though and with Material Status bar installed, the only way I can make it expand is the specific Swipe Home shorcut tied to Nova launcher "expand notifications" action. After I had uninstalled it, the status bar would pull down from a lot of the system screens being really annoying. I also played with the settings in Nova launcher regarding the status bar. It's a matter of time before I nuke this FW install again so I'll try and see if I can turn this status bar thing into a more repeatable process. I'd post some screenshots but I can't post links until 10 posts :/. I'm also rooted, not sure if that would make a difference.

Just to be clear: (I'm rooted)

1: Install Material Status Bar, give it permissions for notifications and accessibility, toggle it on/off

2: You have to edit "Swipe up then Down" of the app "Swipe Home", set to "App Shortcut", "Nova Action" and choose "Expand Notifications" then execute swipe up/down from Nova home screen.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
So after a weekend of fiddling with the Finow Q1 and surfing xda, youtube, google plus and what not I have made the following additions to the watch

1. Install awesome watchfaces courtesy the geniuses on Square Android Smartwatches forum on G+.

2. Installed Next 3D launcher to get awesome desktop widgets and gestures. Also the default home launcher doesn't show the "Talk" icon of Tabtalk. So a third party launcher is required IMO. A big CON of the third part launcher is that you don't get to see the awesome watchfaces anymore. Any alternate solution is welcome and eagerly awaited! :)

3. Installed Tabtalk to get incoming call notifications with contact photo, reject/accept action. You can pick up the call and then answer from your mobile/ BT headset connected to mobile. (this app does not route the voice through the watch)

4. Installed M2D for viewing SMS and whatsapp messages on and heck, even reply to them from the watch.

5. Installed "Remote Camera" (paid app from playstore) to use the phone as a viewfinder and remote shutter. This is most responsive of all apps I tried for the purpose but images still blurry. Need ot give it more time.

Still Looking for an app to

1. control music on my phone

2. to take pictures / videos remotely and

3. handle calls from the watch itself.

I'm not sure why this can't be done on the Q1 if it can be done on the G5! THey should have included it in the watch helper app itself!

Anyway, hope someone reads this and helps us all out with getting full smartwatch functionality.

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The bluetooth connection with my Mi Max is not stable. This could be due to the inbuilt battery and RAM optimisation that kills certain services to save power. I have yet to get into that. It's not an expensive watch. You could give it a well supervised trial. If it doesn't work, gift it to your daughter anyway! :) To use it ONLY as a data transmitter, you could disable many services and uninstall/ freeze apps you don't need. If you have the time to invest in tinkering, go for it. It's less reliable than a Moto but that's for you to judge finally.

Why don't you want to use the phone as you're using it ? Why do you want to use a watch? Is it because of the bulk/size?

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Doesn't doing this have any adverse impact on more frequently used apps? How did you do this?
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
how in heavens do you slide that acccesibility button! I even changed the DPI to 100 from 120 but the text still ovelaps the button!
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
I found new way of doing that. Before was mentioned BT keyboard or some Pc remote control apps. But very easy is to use team viewer host app from play store and than use Pc keybord for torning accesibility on with key combination TAB + enter.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
I tried the teamviewer method too but there too, the screen is just mirrored so the slider button is visible but not touchable. I followed the tasker method by Xinefrak.

So what you're saying is that on the PC teamviewer, you see the full screen as opposed to the 120 dpi constrained screen? what are you doing differently?

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Is anyone having problems with the bluetooth tethering timing out and disconnecting? I use this for internet access, M2D and tabletTalk but everytime the screen turns off, BT disconnects. The settings app here doesn't show many settings e.g. power saving etc. Is anyone facing the same problem?

Solution: Installed "Bluetooth tethering auto" app on the watch. Ended the problem of having to enable bluetooth internet from the watch bluetooth settings on every connection event.

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How do you disable the default "swipe down to go back" gesture that's a default on this watch? I'm using LMT so I can set gestures independently but this conflicts with that app.

Solution: Used "All in one gestures" on the watch to use the other borders of the watch for various purposes. Couldn't remove the default swipe down behaviour of the watch but created another swide down zones using this app.

Also, is anyone able to vie the notification bar from any app screen? I'm able to see it only if I swipe down from the watchface. So if I want to see the notification, I have to go all the way back to the watchface and then swipe down to see the notification.

Solution : Used All in one gestures to create a notification to show the material status bar.
[Other SmartWatches] krispin:
No, the switch is covered by text, but you can use keyboard pressing TAB and than ENTeR to toggle switch.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
I have FW 160721-1469074110. Will this blow up my watch or will I just get a boring old TWRP recovery? :laugh:
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
One more promising app to try! Try this to remote control phone's music player from watch! It's called Phone to Tablet Remote by FK33.

There's also an ad supported free version with no other limitations! Connected twice out of around 20 tries but great and very stable when connected. Wonder what's causing the connection problems? Does the watch's BT connection get disrupted for power saving? I've noticed that "use this device for internet access" checkbox gets disabled when screen is off for long time.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Hi mate,

You will not find any information about square watches on the round android watch forum http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/

I saw you ask in there earlier - not gonna happen - and it's a strict rule for various reasons..

You already know about the Square G+ forum - that's all there is for square android watches right now.

Cheers

pablo11.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
So set my drained out watch for charging and an hour or so later, turned it on. The bootscteen was ok, but as soon as it entered the homescreen (watchface) the image was all washed out. Like a negative photo effect. All colours were inverted. All apps are working fine otherwise? Any idea how to resolve this?
[Other SmartWatches] egadgetguy:
My FW is is MT6580. I don't know if that's the latest or not. can someone tell me if I need a different one? i don't get steps or heart rate on any of the faces. I tried using google fit and I can't seem to get it to register on the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] auldthief:
That's the chipset number. Firmware version is at the bottom on the firmware update screen. I have the same issue with steps not showing up on the faces. I guess it doesn't show on watchfaces on any q1. Google fit doesn't detect the on board step counter. You have to use the native apps that came with the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] egadgetguy:
What apps allow the step counter to sync to the steps display on the watch?

This is my disconnect. It always show 00000 on the watch face no matter which one I chose if the step counter is on the face... Even the OEM ones.