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[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] mclaren2:
i own a ZTE Blade A452 ATM got root and trying to make a custom rom, i have never done one before and i am more doing try and error. it ain't easy.

about the Axon 7 i hope Team Venom does get one :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
Well let us surprise. I´m interested by the premium version with force touch and hope that the special drivers / blobs are open source ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
I think allan1229 talks about the black bars between the speakers and the screen.

The black bars are a little annoying, that's true.

Updates are important, espacially if there is barely Custom Rom support. I'm afraid of latter, on the other hand the Snapdragon SoC makes it easier. Maybe this will be my first try to port a Custom Rom.

I'm sure it will be possible to unlock the bootloader, even though that's just my feeling. ;)

In my opinion force touch is absolutely useless. At the moment we have 3 options, single tap, double tap and long click, and if you want even more, triple tap, etc. Why would you need force touch? That's just a desperate attempt for innovation.

At the moment the ZTE Axon 7 is higher ranked for me that the OnePlus 3, especially because of the front facing speakers! If you had front facing speakers before, you want nothing else. ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
That´s my thoughts too. I give a f*** for manufactured updates if there´s any way to flash custom roms or develop an own one.

Well in this point I disagree with you. Force touch could and should be a kind of new interaction. It´s a question of implementation. You´re totally right for the existing "gestures" but I think in combination of this we´ve got new possibilities. There´s a lot of potential. But pls note - I don´t see the the advantage only on my side - I´m working with handicapped youngsters - and by some clients the force touch engine might be a positive progress :)

Front facing speakers... Meh.... I never used it ;) BUT! The audio-chips are totally great!!! I´m a little bit audiophil. And I think the upgrade from my OP1 should be working "nice" for my headphones - specifically for my B&W P5 wireless ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
It's OK, that's totally subjective. I don't want to discourage anyone from getting force touch.

I don't know anything about how this could help handicapped people. But I still think there's no potential.

I guess you never had front facing speakers before, but trust me, you don't want to live without them anymore. ;) (Yeah, I know, that's also subjective)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
Well that´s my job ;) Thinking of paraplegic clients and the ability to use the screen on much ways before. But this is still an example and very OT. Sorry for it.

Nope, I never find a reason to use front spacing speakers :) For exactly what? :) I´m some decades away to "publish" my musical preferences official over a smartphone.

Music is my intimacy :)

But this is really OT - get back to topic :)

Axon7! Will you buy it? I think so :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
It's OT, but no reason to apologize. :)

It's funny, you want force touch and I want front facing speakers. So with the Axon 7 it's a win-win! :)

You're right, back to topic. I'm pretty sure I'll buy it. The only tiny flaw for me is the protruding camera lens. Unfortunately that's standard nowadays. But apart from this it's almost perfect in my opinion.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] mudnightoil:
If there's unlocked bootloader / root method, and plenty of development on here ...

AND

a black version.

Then absolutely. So many devices seem really compromised by design, availability or ability to unlock them this year. This is potentially one of the few that won't be.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
I think I´m be off with this device - some grounds:

- no official release for the 128gb one

- no official statement ´bout unlocked bootloader (well they´re thinking ´bout it)

- make some research! there´s sparse development / community support on ZTE devices

- by release nextgen devices run with SD 821/823

and honestly - 5,5" is slowly to small for me - I got this size a very long time and need an update ;) Some feeds published the new Nexus-specs today and I´m pissed off that the screen size will be only at 5" / 5,5" :/

And then I see this...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] mudnightoil:
1) WAT. Are you trying to say the 128GB was cancelled and the available ones are clones?

2) They commented on it yesterday, and availability of the phone is just beginning, do you really think there would be an official word a day later??

3) So? This isn't a past device.

4) SD821/823 is SD820, with either new marketing name or slightly higher stock clocks (which are completely unnecessary).

Screen size is highly personal.

Regarding OnePlus, I'd never consider one of their devices again, now owning the OP X, and having handled several OP3s ... I have a really low opinion of them.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Hudrator:
He is telling you that for example in Europe are no plans do release a 128GB version.

Regarding 2.:

Asked the zte team in my country. Answer was a clear "no" and "no plans to do that". For me a "we listen closely to our costumers" in a forum isn't a reason to spend 450€ (sadly).

I would be easily willing to send the my op3 back and wait 3 weeks longer....
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
A nice quick unboxing for you guys:

[YOUTUBE]4NwvpqTG6Jw[/YOUTUBE]

:D
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] edda123:
Hopefully there will not be capacitive buttons. If so it means I will not buy it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] dakid1235:
Wjat was it that you didnt like when you handled the Oneplus 3 devices?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
Man, so much hate for either capacitive or on screen buttons! I used to prefer capacitive until I got a new phone with on screen, and it dosen't bother me either way. Both have plus and minuses.

The main reason I'm leaning capacitive on the Axon 7 is because the large black bars would have more of a purpose. Either way it not going to be the determining factor for getting this phone or not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ar5ena1:
Really struggling about whether to go for this or the One Plus. Was set on this until I saw a comparison video on YouTube of this and the One Plus

I especially want to see some photo samples to see how good the camera is. Also not a fan of the gold or the 4GB/64GB variant. Really wanted the 6GB/128GB in grey :/
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
Point 1 - Well guy - there´s no official statement for release the "pro version" in europe. Try to kidding me with your clone argument? It´s an asian variant. Point!

Point 2 - Well guy - can you remember the times with Samsung special kind of bootlocker efuse-protection? (I don´t know if it´s actually ´cause I never have a Samsung device since some time!) I never had a ZTE device and know nothing ´bout unlocking or rooting process. But it´s a kind of shame if they´re locked the bootloader. Point!

Point 3 - C´mon guy! Really? Did you do some reserach? Well when then give me some impressive links for development! You can´t? Maybe ´cause there´s nothing???. I hit a point!

Point 4 - sorry for loughing out - chipset is unnecassery? We reach the point. Imo there´s nothing more to say. POINT!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
- no official release for the 128gb one --This version my not be available outside China, I hope it will be though.

- no official statement ´bout unlocked bootloader (well they´re thinking ´bout it) -- Eh, I'm not concerned anymore

- make some research! there´s sparse development / community support on ZTE devices -- Eh, same as above. Not having to deal with carrier bloatwear is good enough for me.

- by release nextgen devices run with SD 821/823 -- An overclocked SD 820 might be good for benchmarks but won't make much of a difference in day to day use, and surely not enough for me to care.

I'm with you on wanting the 6GB/126GB version in grey. But it not a deal breaker for me. 4GB/64GB is plenty good enough and with the SD card slot it not a real issue for me. The extra RAM and storage would be nice but I can live without it. I don't ever run more then a few app at a time.

Bottom line if the reviews prove to be good and there are no major flaws it will be tempting for me. I want something with great audio, especially with the headphone jack, and daydream for some VR.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Deewi-:
If you are speaking about this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF-J-zCKQM you should remember that in the video, it is Chinese version of Axon 7 (with Chinese UI), which is modified quite much if compared to European or U.S. UI. I think with close to stock Android (read: with European version) it would perform better. Even though Oneplus might still be winner cuz of 6gb but at least it would be more rightful!

Okay, I'm not sure where are you living, so this might be bull**** for you.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] mudnightoil:
The screen absolutely is as bad as has been reported (including by Anandtech).

The publications that claim it's a non-issue or gloss over it should not be trusted.

It really does look like they bought up a bunch of relict display units manufactured several years ago, that were hanging around at the back of one of Samsung's warehouses.

Plus I really don't like OP generally. My OP X is one of the many with severe battery drain ... and also I didn't realise it had no 5Ghz wifi antenna (that must have saved them $0.15) - how can a phone not have that ... also it has lots of sharp, poorly machined edges. The OP2 was a pile of crap, relative to its price and release date. That makes 3 out of their 4 phones crap (in my view), and I never bought into the hype of the OP1.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
I have to ask you for more respect. No reason to be rude.

No one talks about clones, mudnightoil just misunderstood you.

It's not worth to flame about the bootloader unlock. We'll see, when the device is out for some time. Same goes for the community. Further ZTE devices weren't released everywhere and only few people bought it. I'm sure this will be different with the Axon 7, because it's ZTE's first device that's a real competitor for other flagships. Research on further devices doesn't help.

No one talks about chipset is unnecassery. mudnightoil is right when saying SD821/823 is SD820 with slightly higher stock clocks. This just means that the difference between old and new is not noticable in day to day usage.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Hudrator:
Sorry to hear you had so many troubles with the phones.

Currently my first ONEPLUS but it's very good. It seems I was one of the lucky guys, getting an good display.

Regarding anandtech:

They made a followup review with the new display mode and that worked better, then excepted.

Back to Axon7: still tempted to send my Op3 back. But I'm not in to gambling this time. So without an official statement regarding bootlock I will have to pass this time. But happy to see ZTE at other markets with there flagships
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
Ehrm in which kind I´m be rude or disrespectful? I reply only in his dialect.

Ahhhhh that make sense. Well you must know it :)

One moment please. Further ZTE devices would bought by a few people? BY A FEW PEOPLE? Serious? Take a look on their sales. In contrast take a look on ZTE development. Did you see the difference? And I think that the situation with upcoming devices get not better.

The next one tells me some stupid things - sorry "to be rude in your eyes" - but you don´t know for which kind of services run my devices 24/7. If I spoke ´bout higher clocks and have the opportunity to choose then this should spare the question.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
Respect, man! Stop offending other people! :mad:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] redukt:
Take a deep breathe! I offend nobody! And back to topic!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] killacam1989:
Lol man y'all need to chill. This phone regardless of what y'all compare and contrast is probably the best phone out that will be maybe 1 to 1 1/2 years ahead of its time. Sure everybody wants certain things but we all know that the best spec phone would be the premium version of the Axon 7. Do not be quick yo jump to conclusions when the US Variant hasn't even dropped yet.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
Back to topic.

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Exactly :)

If we think about the premium version with 6GB RAM/128GB storage, we have to think also about the cost-benefit ratio. Afair its price was much higher (rumors talked about 650 USD) and maybe also would be, if it's released in US/Europe. So that great fact about devices like OP3 and Axon 7 4GB wouldn't count anymore for the Axon 7 6GB.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ar5ena1:
I'm sure it won't be as high as $650 as the 4GB is retailing at $399 IIRC. Would it be worth getting it imported from China so I can get the 6GB/128GB in grey? I've read it might not be compatible with B20 if I do this but not sure. I'm in the UK and the only one I can pre-order at present is the 4GB in gold (urgh)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] killacam1989:
I think it might be close to $500 to $550 for the premium version.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
4gb version will be 450$, not 400$

Importing is a bad idea if you can wait and don't absolutely need the 6gb version, network support is poor with imported smartphones, almost no exceptions.

If it's ever released on an internationnal scal, i'm thinking more 600$, from chinese conversion we are at 625$.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] killacam1989:
Why do you think the phone will be that high? The only thing I see that is a price difference is an extra 2GB of ram and double the internal memory. I doubt they would charge an extra $130+ for that. Unless there was something else I missed in the memo tech wise.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] denkem:
Other difference could be "force touch".
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
I think it won't come out in Europe and USA. But if it was ever to be released, the chinese price conversion indicates a price over 600$.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
The US model has already passed through the FCC, but can't tell if it's the 64GB or 128GB variant.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
I also think, that the much higher price is because of the pressure sensitive display.

Importing might be a bad idea, not only because of network compatibility (LTE Band 20), but also because of the software. I'm afraid you would get many things only in chinese.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Definitly the 4gb version.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aivilon:
I read a report, immediately bought

64 GB ROM, expandable with SD Card - must have (at least the SD Slot)

LTE - must have

500ppi up - must have

Dual SIM - nice to have, but for me a must have

That the battery is not removable, is a shame, but not a killer criterion. The plus is the Unybody, i like it.

So all in all a Smartphone, which holds the next 3-4 years :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
Color?

Folks, I'm interested in the color you prefer. Are you getting the gold or silver model?

I personally don't understand, why manufacturers create gold devices ... I mean gold?? Imo this isn't even gold, more like copper. If it would shine like jewellery, maybe, but ... no, gold is a nogo for me.

I will definitly go for the silver model, or metal, as I would describe it. (I also won't get a shiny silver device :D)

The Axon 7 is such a great device and only available in gold by now. :confused:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Sammae7:
I always prefer black devices but that is out of the question here, so the silver/gray it'll be.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
I prefer the gray/silver option, but will take gold if it the only option available. I don't think it look too bad and isn't a deal breaker.

I've always had black or dark phones until this year. A Titan (light gray) LG G5 as it was the only one color in stock at the time and a silver (aluminum) Nexus 6P as i thought it look very good and didn't have the fingerprint issues of the other colors, I love the bare aluminum of the 6P.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
I also always had black devices by now, but each was made of plastic or glass. In case of metal, I prefer silver/aluminum, even when there's a black version. The Nexus 6P is a good example, the black one is nice, but the silver is gorgeous.

Gold is a deal breaker for me, but I'm sure ZTE will release also the silver/gray version in Europe and USA. It simply doesn't make sense if they didn't.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Chevyguy85:
If I get one it'll be the silver one. Not that it matters since as soon as I find a case for it whatever color the phone is will be mostly irrelevant. These new phones aren't going to stand up to the abuse my HTC Inspire 4g took so I'll have to put a case on it. Still surprised I haven't broken my Find 7a yet with the few choices of cases there are for it and the little dinky one I've been using for quite some time now.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Nibiru2012:
The "Ion Gold" unit is more of a "gold-tone" unit. All throughout the exterior of the case. It doesn't look obnoxious, for me it's quite pleasing to the eye. It has quite the eye appeal though.

I've always preferred my tech equipment to be black or charcoal gray. It just looks better. I do own an HTC One M9 with a Silver/Champagne metal case and I have grown to really like it.

So I may consider getting the Ion Gold unit. It looks quite nice!

However I may consider the "Quartz Gray" unit instead of the gold one.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] connorhiller:
Does it have stock android or will ZTE use their "MiFavor" UI?

Some video reviews I have seen online make it look like the Axon 7 is running the stock Google Now Launcher, while other video reviews shows some sort of ZTE skin where the icons are squared and less-stock like.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Every video right now are about the chinese version of the software, no exception (even Paris presentation which was with European hardware but chinese software).

The videos with stock launcher run an alternate launcher like Nova.

We have yet to see the European/US software version but it is said to be near stock.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] connorhiller:
Oh Ok, thanks a lot!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] connorhiller:
Will the ZTE Axon 7 be better for music with Headphones than the OnePlus 3?

I have a pair of Sennheiser Momentums and want to know if the ZTE Axon 7 will sound noticeably better than the OnePlus 3 when it comes to using Spotify for my headphones?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aaa:
What I do not like on 1+3 and thus have not pushed the order button:

- only 1080p display

- Issues with 60 fps video in general both recording and youtube playback

- No MicroSD slot

- Very shaky video despite of having ois

What worry me on Axon 7 and thus have not pushed the pre-order button:

- Build quality could be far inferior to 1+3

- Not developer friendly (forever locked bootloader, not enough resources to build custom rom)

- Sh*tty stock software

I am currently considering to get either 1+3 or ZTE Axon 7...still confused right now...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
I plan on buying the Axon 7 as soon as it gets CDMA support and a safe rooting method (even better if rooting is achieved via an official bootloader unlock).
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
The Axon 7 is the phone for audio, OP3 is garbage when it comes to sound.

;)

I think you shouldn't be worried about those in Axon 7, because:

Quality has been proved that is really nice, you can see a lot of videos when they say that the phone is solid and premium. Besides, both OP and ZTE are chinese brands and pretty much in terms of build quality most of phones are pretty nice.

They already said that the bootloader will be unlocked, but not at launch, because they are still figuring out which will be the best way to achieve this and they didn't want to delay the launch anymore.

Stock software outside China will be a close to stock android experience with some useful things, they even compared the software with Android system from Motorola phones.

For me, pretty much the Axon 7 crushes the OP3 in all the aspects I can think now, and for the same price, you get a really multimedia powerhouse.

:cowboy:

CDMA support is being approved now for carriers, and it will be a matter of software update, same as unlocked bootloader, they didn't want to delay the launch anymore for this kind of things.

:cyclops:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] xtermmin:
Yep yep, I'm super looking forward to it, but gonna hold back on purchasing one until those features come out, juuuuuust in case. :D
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aaa:
Yes, Axon 7 is better on the paper but we need real proof on some parts.

The possibility to unlock bootloader according to webinar 1-2 days ago is a question of "when" ...but...."never" belongs also to the answers of "when".

Moreover, "near to stock" does not mean one can not write sh*tty software.

I would not put my hope to high for now until the reviews are up.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] biglilsteve:
Quote from a OP3 vs Axon 7 thread I started in the OP3 forum. I currently have a OP3 and love it, but still really want the Axon 7 to live up to it's specs. Unfortunately, right now the Axon overall loses during each of these comparisons. Maybe the US version will be a different story.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Sorry folk, but I think your statement is pretty stupid, no company would advertise something so important for users (unlocked bootloader), then saying in a webinar that is a "matter of when" and some time after come and say "It was a prank, the answer is NEVER!".

About the software, well, if it's near stock Android, I'm pretty sure things can't go wrong with the additions they will put when they have a stable system as a base, more over when they already have experience with that and Axon last year was a really good damn phone.

Build quality is not going to change between the chinese version and the US version, the only things that will change is the capacity, software and the bands, but pretty much is the same phone speaking in hardware terms.

I'm really sold into this phone and my second option is the Alcatel Idol 4S which comes as a really multimedia beast, even with VR glasses and JBL headphones for less price, but I'm waiting as well for the reviews.

;)

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Those kind of tests are really for pure purist people, they don't represent real life usage.

Nowadays even medium range phones can hold most of the tasks and games out there.

OP3 is indeed a good phone, but when coming to multimedia, it doesn't have much to offer. Yes, it can have a great development support, but for the "normal consumer", a pair of double front speakers and a decent camera will do the job.

Regarding the camera, ZTE said is working constantly in improving this, so is not something I'm worried about, OnePlus has been patching the OP3 for weeks by now and still will be issues to fix, I don't know why we criticise so much a phone that is not even on the market.

:cowboy:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] biglilsteve:
I'm not criticizing the phone. Like I said before, I am rooting for the Axon 7 to be a beast because I want to buy one. Just sharing available comparison tests thus far.