yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
you can use this for answering calls from your watch but it need wifi or hotsopt tried with BT tethering did'nt work i've contact the developer and i'm waiting for his reply.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/103030481054767288558/posts/bkhPcN99o2v

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i think so too that the no.1 s6 will be a tethering watch and not standalone watch but you'll have to ask the company itself about that to be sure. you can use this app for calls: https://plus.google.com/u/0/103030481054767288558/posts/bkhPcN99o2v
[Other SmartWatches] cvigti:
Sorry to be posting this on the Finow Q1 thread but I am so going to cancel the pre order and order an S6!

Better than that only if there would be a Q1 like the S6, without the SIM and with TF card capacity (like the S6 has and the D6 does not!). It seems you CAN use watch faces on the S6 and it has to be a tethering watch since there is no SIM. What I still don't get is why a D6 or Q1 can't provide full tethering while being the same android 5.1 as the S6... must be something about having a cell radio built in or something...:rolleyes:
[Other SmartWatches] cvigti:
Nevermind. Sent an email to no.1 asking several things and this was their reply:

I guess none of the android 5.1 watches can answer phonecalls from our phone...

Last offtopic request on this thread: what's the best tethering phone right now? On gearbest please. Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
try the no.1 G3 or G4 i like the design and they are tethering watches.
[Other SmartWatches] RASTAVIPER:
From where did you order it and you are waiting for so long?

Unleashed by my M1 NOTE
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
According to the No1 website the S6 is an actual normal size mobile phone - so not quite sure why people are discussing it ?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
This is the smartwatch they are referring to:

http://en.001phone.cn/product-no-1-s6-smart-watch-123.html
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Thanks mate :)

Ok, that makes sense. I think it's going to be a little on the large side for a watch but who knows - we may be amazed by the stuff they can cram in to a relatively small unit.

We'll see.
[Other SmartWatches] cvigti:
http://en.001phone.cn/product-no-1-s6-smart-watch-123.html

You have to look in the right place on their website, under "product/smartwatch" ;)

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Gearbest. Ordered it on June 3rd. It has arrived in Spain on June 13 so it's a matter of coming from Spain to Portugal. I expect to have it by the end of this week the latest...

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Didn't see there was an extra page on the thread with your reply to pablo ;) beat me to it hehe :good:

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Thank you again soniasophie :)

I just looked at those and didn't really like the looks... is there an easy way to tell whether a watch is a tethering watch or not? Those two you mentioned have SIM card support and are tethering watches also according to you. That was the only way I could tell before if a watch was tethering or not...well, except if it had android as OS, that seems to be a sure way to tell a watch is definitely not a tethering watch ;)

Is there a more appropriate thread where I could ask this questions and ask what the most recent/best tethering watch is at the moment? So I don't fill the Q1 thread with other watches questions... ;)
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Mlais Android 5.1 smartwatch is a full Android smartwatch and it's a tethering watch ;)
[Other SmartWatches] jrosado:
With no GPS :(
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Apparently it can use the phones gps similar to Android Wear....
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
each tehthering watch says that it has the capability to sync calls and sms and reply through them. no.1 has these watches on their site like the D2 and others.

btw you can just open a thread about what is the best tethering watch there is and the specs you want in it:)
[Other SmartWatches] cvigti:
I went for looks, screen quality (amoled) and watch face catalog and cancelled the Q1 and ordered the X5 ;) I have the haier iron for tethering and I hope eventually the X5 will be able to pick up phone calls from the phone too.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
you can use this app for calls and sms :https://plus.google.com/u/0/103030481054767288558/posts/bkhPcN99o2v

and if you want to reply to whatsapp and other apps use this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pacosal.m2d.notifications&hl=en

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pacosal.m2d.receiver&hl=en
[Other SmartWatches] cvigti:
I read about that in your other posts. It doesn't seems to work properly on bluetooth yet from what I read... At home, on wifi that's fine since I have no cell network on the down floor of my house and I keep the phone on the upper floor and it's an hassle to have to go up the stairs each time the phone rings or an sms is received...that would solve that problem, but when driving I would like to be able to pick up a phone call on the go...and for that I would need bluetooth tethering. Maybe in the future the X5 will be able to do so ;) thanks again!:good:
[Other SmartWatches] stevea76:
I see on SmartWatch Ticks YouTube channel there is a firmware update for the Finow Q1.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9kfip8cYm1nX2tBMXdqb21qRms/view

My question is this; I do not own a computer, so I was wondering can I download this directly to the watch and install the zip file by navigating to: Settings-About phone-Wireless update-Local updates-Internal storage-Downloads?

If this is not possible, is there a way to 'make' the update file compatible for this method or another way of installing without the use of a computer?
[Other SmartWatches] doner03:
Here is a comparition between this smartwatches, No.1 D6 and FINOW Q1 Android 5.1 Smartwatches Compared! :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuwD65S4COQ
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
The update file from that link is only for flashing via SP Flash software. There is no "easy" way to convert it to an OTA update file :(
[Other SmartWatches] stevea76:
Thanks for the reply, I will wait until I can get my hands on computer. I wish there was an easy way to Flash the software without the need of a PC.
[Other SmartWatches] ElGrecko:
Does flashify work on these watches?
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
I watched the video comparison Finow Q1 and No. 1 D6 and me at least indicated that it is more or less equivalent products . The difference is a matter of taste . I wonder what the content update Q1 and if it is important to install it .
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
the D6 is better choice because of OTA updates and it was mentioned to no.1 site that it will get android 6.0
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
Android 6 is not yet tuned , so why should he be better? Reportedly contains a flaw that has an impact on battery drain .
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
I got my Finow Q1

So, as title says. and few hard facts to swallow

1. RAM is only 512MB (read by system 464MB)

2. CPU is rarely using quad core, mostly only triple core ( and give better battery life) so no complaints

3. Have WCDMA 1900MHz (perhaps for US user, I dunno)

the rest like Swartwatch Ticks says :fingers-crossed:
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
maybe, but if you contact them and report on bugs that it has they do release OTA updates to improve the usage it up to the users to be more active to improve the use of the watch. Finow is not less great but i like the 3 buttons that it has in the meaning of custom recovery, custom rom (if want in the future or prefer that over the stock). easy to manage with 3 than 1.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It means that No.1 has intention to support its D6, for the near future at least, and it will provide an Android 6 firmware most probably when it will be cleaned by current flaws.

So [MENTION=6081616]soniasophie9697[/MENTION] is right, it is a good point for D6.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
just today i've noticed that they've released an update to improve the use of their watch (there is a video on it) it is good to have these companies listen to their consumers.
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
Android 6.0 for faster error " sucks " and that the battery is enough for me significant drawback in connection with the SmartWatch . But I don't push it to anyone .

As I said , it's a matter of taste and the three buttons I have a cellphone.
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Just got my Q1

Hi All,

I've been reading your posts regarding Q1 etc and very much appreciate the existence of this forum.

So I've received my Q1 on two days ago and I just installed the 'Phone Tester' app on it (since I can't work out how on earth to test if the heart rate monitor is working since there's no app on it that uses it and the clock face with heart rates and step always show zero). Unfortunately the heart rate sensor doesn't show up there (I suppose it didn't say it has it... then what on earth is that thing at the back on it) in the Phone Tester app either. And more disturbingly it's showing me that it has 464MB RAM as oppose to the advertised 1 GB and total storage capacity of 5.67GB. Anyone else with Q1 has this problem?

Cheers
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Same here. Only 464MB RAM Heartrate sensor not seems to work. I messaged the seller, waiting for their reply :(
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
your sure you do'nt have the fitness app? on my watch it is called health.

what do you mean it has only 0.5 gb? install phone info app and see what it says, i can't believe that they would say it has 1gb and it is not so. maybe the system uses 0.5gb and only left 0.5gb.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
as for Health App, it was hidden from launcher, using another launcher should fix it,

and for RAM it's really 464MB, I already test using CPU Z, Antutu, CPU X all show the same thing, after all it's not just me alone have that problem.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
that is just dishonest thing to do, why do'nt they just write that it is 0.5gb instead of 1gb same thing happend to me with the k9 square. what was written was'nt what hardware it had. i think who ever bought this watch should get a discount or even a refund. i wonder now about the no.1 D6.....i'll ask smartwatch tick on his video.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
I ask him before about Q1, he have a prototype which have 464MB ram and 2.16GB user space, which means 4GB ROM,, I guess it still same to both watch since they share same PCB code (or board code, i dunno, CMIIW) so their firmware can be crossflashed and expect people who order NO.1 D6 will also got 512MB RAM (464MB Usable) and 8GB ROM
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Ok, don't worry too much - I am discussing this with the vendor now. Please let me know about anything like this Sonia - it's very important.

Thanks and I will update you soon.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuwD65S4COQ

look at this video aspecially after 30 minutes. it seems there are two watches of q1???

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i think the problem maybe with the seller if there are 2 q1, i'm not sure. i think for now i truelly going to wait with buying new watch i'm quite pleased with my D5:)
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
look at 31.17 in the video, is that weird in antutu when q1 have 464MB have free ram 111MB and D6 have 1GB but have free ram 113MB,, make me remember some cheap samsung S series clone :eek::eek:
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
another square watch is out:) the zgpax or other name....that looks really nice: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZDX-...11&btsid=fbc9b654-e49c-44a1-affe-ded29e6e1429
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Ok guys, I have spoken to the marketing director at Finow.

Please email all the details to sales01@finowatch.com and they will make arrangements for you.

Cheers

pablo11

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Please check my earlier post and email them to sort this out
[Other SmartWatches] sheridan156:
recieved my q1 and it too has 464mb ram and 5.something storage.

thanks for this, i just emailed finow also hopefully theyl reply soon

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i am verry hapy with this watch and thought id share some usefull information on it as well. granted this is my first smartwatch, but i have to say i was surprised by how good it looks, and how well it runs, despite the 464mb of ram instead of 1gb.

overall build quality is verry good, as for battery usage im getting about a day of reasonably heavy use whilst continually connected to bluetooth internet tethering to my phone.

Also one awesome app for this small square screen is omni swipe, it lets you quickly select apps, and change settings, as shown off in by smartwatch ticks in the full review of the Q1 . However if you do install it, you will notice that when you come to customise the app by adding your own shortcuts, the ok and cancell buttons are missong off below the screen, which really limits the functionality of an otherwise awesome app. I have found a work arround which i thought id share here.

If you plug the phone into a pc and dun adb fastboot, you can change the dpi of the screen. Default DPI for mine was 120. I changed mine down to 100. (for those who dont already know, changing the DPI setting lower effectively zooms out the display of the watch so that more information is shon on screen). After doing this the watch remains perfectly useable, only now the ok and cancel buttons of omni swipe are visible!. After customising the app to perfection you can then just plug it back into your pc and set the DPI back to 120.
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
Hey, check out this link . What do you think about it?

http://es.aliexpress.com/store/prod...te-1-54-pantalla-WiFi/926956_32680635132.html
[Other SmartWatches] miladis:
I found another link , again, the same watch , but in the name of another brand .

http://es.aliexpress.com/store/prod..._7&btsid=9ae22747-346a-4fde-8284-685ca76ebce6
[Other SmartWatches] sheridan156:
I've noticed all these other brand smart watches seem to be more expensive do you think people could be buying from finow and re selling them for a profit since they all seem to be the very same pictures and watch?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Probably....
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
So I've got a reply from the Seller and they said the engineers made a mistake with the first batch and it is now rectified and also they pulled heart rate monitor functionality off the Q1. So we can do an exchange if I send it back (own postage fee). I'm still deciding between refund/exchange. Does anyone have one that's got the stated spec....?
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
before you do that, I was upgrading my own finow Q1 into newest to date firmware 160620, and what I got? 1GB RAM, IT HAS 1GB RAM (but dunno if it's just software faking or what, so for now I was trying to fill up the ram with many app and check how much left.) the heart rate still there my friend, just hidden from launcher :(

EDIT: I was playing Real Boxing and do multitask with share it and CPU Z ( before multitask free ram around 700MB, when doing it free ram 300MB, according to CPU Z and CPU X)

it seems Q1 RAM is really 1GB but the early firmware only mapped around 512MB (for early prototype I think, like the one Smartwatch Tick owned) and 160620 fix it (or it already fixed in 160602? I dunno:confused:)

BEWARE when using this firmware, you may LOST IMEI in the process, but no worry, there is repair tutorial in post #149

EDIT AGAIN : it seems 160620 firmware is deleted, perhaps other firmware will not cause IMEI lost

and here is the link
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Thanks Mazster. How do you guys find these things... I'll lookup how to flash this thing and see if it make any difference... also what launcher do you use?
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
I added the firmware link on my earlier post

Nova Launcher, and you will find HeartRate app there, with heart icon
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
By gum! There IS the heart rate app there and it appears to be functioning. Now I just have wait for hours for the firmware(454Mb... somewhat frustrating) to download. Cheers man!
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
If it really does have one 1gig and it's just a firmware glitch , it really shows that they don't know a lot about there own watches.
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Alrighty! I don't have to send it back after all! And it now shows 972MB of RAM. Close enough. So Thank you all for your help :D
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Ok looks like I got happy too early because NOW it can't seem to register onto my sim mobile network. But knowing it worked before I'm guessing it's something fixable in the firmware. Anyone else have that problem with the 2016-06-20 firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
1gb do'nt mean 1000mb, it is'nt a perfcet round number.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
Imei fix 160620

oh yes, it seems Q1 imei lost in the process, but you can return it back in easy steps

1. Download and install attachment

2. choose MTK Settings

3. Swipe through tabs until you found connectivity tab

4. Choose CDS Information, then Choose Radio Information, and then Choose Phone 1

5. in AT+, change it into AT+EGMR=1,7,"", and insert 15 digit imei between "" and don't forget give space after AT

so it would be like AT +EGMR=1,7,"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"

6. Click Send AT Command

7. Reboot your watch, Done
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Thanks again!! :good: It has worked :laugh: but yeah had to generate an IMEI (never thought to write it down)... hopefully that's not going to cause any trouble.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Q1

Hi to all

Would you be so kind to share the firmware update cause I can't download from baidu

There is a manual explaining how to install the firmware ?

Regards
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
There's this youtube video that talks about it for Windows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OORmDly0lJ8

if you look at the description there's some links to pdf manual. I had to find some other instruction since I use Linux. If I'm to do it again then I would note down the IMEI and Wifi MAC address first. The seller said maybe if I chose 'Format upgrade' then I won't loose my IMEI so keep an eye out for that option next time.
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Any tips on how to get the heartrate and step counter to show on the watch faces that has them? They are always showing zero. I've tried looking this up everywhere and can't seem to find the answer.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Q1

Please help me

Post a link to the new firmware I can0't download it :crying::crying:
[Other SmartWatches] emuthebrave:
Replacement/spare charging lead for Finow Q1

Does anyone know whether you can order an extra charging lead? Jack at Finow said to go to "...official shop for sourcing...", which I assume if AliExpress but I can't see the lead on their site.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Don't use "Format upgrade" it is not required for simple firmware update, just use "Download only" option and don't tick the Preloader file in the list. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Check your pm.
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
Thanks a lot my friend ...

I have tried pedometer and heart but they seems not working maybe is the old firmware I'm using

Which app you suggest for health ? Google Fit , Runtastic ?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
try reseting the watch
[Other SmartWatches] marco.fortuna:
I have tried resetting the phone but it gives me 90 bpm on cardio when I'm sitting on the chair ...

I have normally 52-53 bpm

Also pedometer doesn't work well ... i hope is the firmware

Do you have an application for heal the works on this smart watch ?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
try google fit if you mean one that has HR, yes but for a chestbelt not the build in HR.
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
:crying::laugh: Not having much luck with this watch. Now the wires on the battery has fell off. :eek:
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
can you upload photoes? that is just weird, did you use force to take out the battery?
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
I was trying to remove the battery plug but I wasn't forcing the wire. The wire broke off from the battery side & not the plug bit. I tried to clean the wire up to solder it back but it's really brittle. it just kept snapping off. It was probably going to snap just from removing the battery without unplugging (from removing and putting in the sim card etc).
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
try contact this seller he gave me a link for a replacable battery for the 4.4 watches maybe he can sell you for the q1:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-X5-Finow-smartwatch/1961560_32688305277.html
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
you may use the battery from K8/K9 watch, a bit bigger both in size (thicker) and capacity (450 vs 400) from real battery

so far I using it, I get few boost from battery life. usually I got 8 hours battery life including playing video clip around 1 hours with minimum brightness, access wifi around 3 hours ( only standby, not heavy usage). but when using K8/K9 battery I got 10 hours more, near 11. not bad for extra 50mAH
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
Thanks all. I've ordered the K8 replacement batteries :)

Does the backcover close fine?
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
If your screen look squishy because the battery, you may need to loose 2 bottom screws. Then everything will be fine.
[Other SmartWatches] sheridan156:
has anyone noticed that under about watch/ wireless update, when you open the little menu there is a setting for local update that let's you browse to pick a file from the watch . has anyone tried to do a firmware update through that ?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Been tried. Unless the update zip is downloaded from the OTA server through "check for updates" it won't work.
[Other SmartWatches] Maszter93:
D6 and Q1 board is SAME

I had tried flashing D6 firmware and they were 98% match, not only board but also all the sensors, the other 2% and the only problem is touchscreen is inverted :eek:

even if finow not released android 6, then we just took it from no.1 :highfive::highfive:
[Other SmartWatches] ado_dado:
Hi, could you please pm me also the link to the newest q1 fw? I would appreciate it a lot, since the fw that came with the watch is buggy as hell. For example my wifi or bt cant be activated sometimes. Today for example the whle day i could not use either wifi or bt :/ i think its a fw problem since i reset it and everything but its still the same.
[Other SmartWatches] pandamouse:
So have you spend more then one days sticking to the same FW yet to see if they function properly more then one day? Reason I asked is I've experienced Wifi internet connection problem (I've already set the MAC address) where it is connected to the router but it doesn't let me connect to the internet (when I try to update the weather for example it would tell me to insert a sim card or get on the wifi but they are on already). This happens the day after the flash and it was working fine. I tried to see if it would fix itself if I remove the battery and put it back it and well you know the rest.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yes - Finow make the board for both - they are the same watch inside.

Once the watch is rooted the build.prop can be edited to rotate the screen by 180 degrees.

We have the Q1 now :) and we will be looking at what can be done with it :)

I would recommend that you wait a while before trying to make any modifications - we will be posting stuff soon.

Everyone should at least take a backup of their watch and in particular the IMEI number nvram partition.