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[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Yeah it's a nice early review, watched it a few timles already :silly: ! I saw both a few days ago but didn't bother to watch the german one, i just assumed that content would be the same :o.

Bummer :(. Let's take into acount that the software wasn't in it's final version at that time and hope 60fps is implemented, at least on H.264, on the final customer release !

H.265 encoding is unexpected and a nice surprise tough !
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Would you mind to say which is the benefit of this encoding?, or why is a nice surprise?.

:confused:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Well it's a fact that 4k recording is space consuming on smartphones at the moment. Video are still encoded in H.264 in every device i know of at the moment (even on devices like Galaxy S7).

H.265 is the evolution of H.264. It is highly efficient in term of space used while keeping quality. And the higher the definition, the more efficient it gets. For 4k videos, at the same quality settings, you have a file with H.265 of around 40% the size you would get with H.264. In 720p you are a little over 50% file size.

I knew that the Snapdragon 820 was supporting this but since nobody had implemented it yet i wasn't expecting it ! :o

It's an awesome feature in my opinion and they should promote it !
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Coldheat1906:
The Axon 7 is a great phone, has all the features and great sound!!!!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Cypher_01:
Concerning capacitive buttons, there's nothing to complain about it! If we have root (and everyone wants root), we can deactivate the capacitive buttons and activate onscreen buttons. I already did so on my Galaxy Note 3 long time ago. So having capacitive buttons is always better, because we have the option to choose.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Exactly.

If we had phones with like 95% of screen to body ratio, i could understand not wanting a capacitive bar under the screen. That would screw up this ratio. But we're still far from having those kind of smartphones...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
On screen buttons for the win!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] tele_jas:
I think so!?!?!

I recently traded my 6P for a S7 Edge... Really missing my 6P, but this seems like it has everything the 6P has except the Google updates? I curious how the built in speakers sound? That's the deal-breaker for me!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] mclaren2:
youtube has a few reviews. it is claimed they even beat those on the htc one m9 (and 10 ofc)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
Everything I've seen from people that have used it, say that they're as good or better than the ones on the 6P, M series, or the ones on the current Moto X. A few claim they're the best on any phone to date. Either way, that's pretty high praise.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] tele_jas:
That's exciting news!

It seems like a "silly" thing to be excited about, but I play in a band (just a local thing) and use my phone as a tool more than I thought. The HTC M(x) models were some of the best (M7 was my favorite), the Moto X Pure was right up there with them, the 6P was a bit of a let down and had no depth to the sound but still worked well because it was so powerful.

I don't expect sub-woofer type of sound, I know it's just a .5 inch speaker (give or take).... but a little depth would go a long way.

Gonna be checking daily........ummmm, several times daily, for an update to when it's available!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] TuBBe2:
I cant wait it, my old phone is about to die and i really want to buy new one. Its its really going to be june release in Europe, its looking bit odd since i cant even find it on sale in china, and there is absolutely no news for a while...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
For me it will be to 2 only if there is a serious development community.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aPexalpha:
Maybe this is a stupid question... but: can you root every device? There is no carrier lock on this one. Only thing is the bootloader might be locked. But I've never seen a unlocked phone that could not be rooted. Or am I not looking in the right place?

I could pick this phone up in China now... But I want to know if I can root it to debloat it etc...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] GCbard:
I would like the 6gb 128 version as well. It is not sure if that version will sell in the USA. I keep reading that the 4gb version will and should be released later this month. The 6gb version is in question. Also, a video shows a chinese version of the phone having capactive buttons......
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Yeah. If there isn't a 6GB of RAM/128GB of storage version released in the US, then I won't be buying it. I need more than 64GB of internal memory while running dual SIM's. There is a lot of talk about possibilities at the ZTE community. The capacitive buttons don't interest me personally either.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
You need a development community. Someone needs to spend time with it and get it to work. This is not a one size fits all. There seems to be root on some other zte phone and there might be root on this one since axon 7 is such a big deal but it is extremely to early to tell.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aPexalpha:
Is it only dependant on (ZTE) software? I thought that if one phone with an SD820 can be rooted, it would work on all of them. But it doesn't depend on the HW then?

It seems there is a lot of interest for this phone. And rightfully so!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
Your right in the sense of sd820. You need compatible hardware but also the phone specific software. First you need to unlock bootloader and not all phones can be unlocked. Then compatible recovery like twrp and nobody will work on that if bootloader cannot be unlocked. Then root via ie: supersu is usually easy after that.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aPexalpha:
I thought systemless root fixed the locked bootloader thing?

And do we know if the Chinese version of the phone has a locked bootloader? That one is already shipped, is it not?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] XblackdemonX:
Nah, you still need a custom recovery to install systemless root
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
Like xblackdemonx said. And systemless root is just the way root is applied. Have not heard anything if the bootloader is unlockable or not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] UnixSlayer:
http://9to5google.com/2016/05/26/zte-axon-7-official/

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] aPexalpha:
Thanks for the clarification guys!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I just asked yesterday in Twitter for some clarification for the 60fps, but no answer...

Maybe someone can try on the official board/forum?

:confused:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Done, waiting for some more information.

The Quartz Gray version if officialy the gunmetal color and not the silver one :)
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] conspiracyBE:
Picture!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
I saw. I'm so glad they confirmed it's the gunmetal color! It looks alot better than the silver.

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Here are more pics with that color.

https://www.zteusa.com/axon-7/

You can also see that they changed the battery size from 3140 to 3250mAh after they confirmed they were bumping up the battery for the US model to the same one as the Chinese model.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jon199021:
the only things that have me worried are the camera quality (which looked way worse in a video taken from the phone which a reviewer posted), the overall customer service levels, and the fact that the 128GB Storage / 6GB RAM version won't come to NA. These 3 things are the main things that I'll be watching with this device, because otherwise it's a killer phone! I've been rocking Samsung products for years so capacitive buttons are great for me... I personally don't get why people wouldn't like them =/

Also, I guess it's worth noting a few extra things:

1. The Mi Color OS is gonna be meh, so hopefully as this phone gets more popular the development community increases in size (shouldn't be a problem though considering it's "flagship killer" status... people will flock!)

2. People complain about the black bars on the top, but then fail to realize that the top one may house a notification LED, and the bottom will house the capacitive buttons (I know people figured this one out already though ;) )

3. The warranty seems to be legit, covering shattered screens as well... I just wonder if the customer support is going to be good enough to make it worthwhile.

EDIT for #2: in the latest shots... it seems like the navigation/back/menu buttons are above the bottom black bar... wtf... or is that just "on-screen"? If not, then what a waste of space those bars are... god... that would actually make me think twice =/
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Sloth.M:
I think I'll be getting it. I'm looking to upgrade from my S4 soon.

Based on what I've seen of the software, I'll probably be putting Cyanogenmod on it as soon as possible.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
There IS a notification light in the top black bar. Thankfully the US model will have on-screen buttons nexus style! Capacitive buttons suck and are usually tacky leading to a less clean front appearance. That's simply my opinion though. Chinese model has capacitive keys. 6GB/128GB model is yet to confirmed one way or another for the US. Also, their reps have confirmed that you'll be able to run stock Android on the phone. They haven't confirmed though how that will be done, whether being able to "turn off" MiFavor skin elements or a separate stock Android build.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ciko84xp:
In fact I do not understand what are the black bars (top and bottom). What does it mean? If the bar below does not host capacitive buttons of what use? It only reduces the display! For me the device is really the top, but if the black bars are useless as I fear, unfortunately OP3'm coming ...! And I'm sorry because this is really a top device...

If anyone has useful info on black bars ... enlighten me please!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jon199021:
Thanks for the direct reply to some of the issues that I brought up.

Yeah, if that is the case then I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens with the 128GB / 6GB RAM version. I don't see why they wouldn't release that in NA since that would pretty much be leading edge... they'd miss a big opportunity!

I'm also surprised to see 2x Dual Core CPUs ... seems a bit lacking unless I'm missing something here..

PS: Kinda funny to see that so many of us are waiting for something to upgrade to from our Galaxy S 4's haha...
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
To each their own..

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The SD820 is a very potent SoC. It's the same one that alot of the current gen flagships use in the US. G5, S7, OP3, HTC10, etc.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jon199021:
Ah if that's the case then I guess it just looked strange seeing it somewhere as xx dual core + xx dual core; If the CPU is of that grade then I absolutely take back that comment! haha

Can't see why someone would want wasted display area... at least in an amount like that. The slimmer top bar isn't as bad as it does achieve the "accenting" look, but the bottom is way too fat to be anything but a waste of space.

But, like you said... to each their own I guess lol
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
The thing is on screen keys are the future. It's capacitive keys fans that are holding it back. Just like this scenario. One market model has Cap keys, the other won't. But they're using one screen and one unibody. The digitizer on top of the actual displays are different. My point of cap keys holding back the future is as follows.. Picture your device having all of the display area being screen, every bit. Even the area where the capacitive keys are. It's all screen there and that area could be used as on screen key area when you're not viewing video and such, but once you fire up a video that area is viewable screen space that would otherwise be taken up by cap keys that have zero other use for the taken up space.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ciko84xp:
I don't understand your answer... reading your posts i think you refear to cap keys, but i've talked about it because i hope the bottom black bar (especially) serve in some, not for my cap keys opinion... you don't know if i want cap keys or not.

I would mean that i don't understand the black bars function! Why these bars are there? Cap keys? On screen keys? I don't know... and i've asked if anyone know their function, i would like to know.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I just hate capacitive buttons at all, but it seems that the black bar was made for those on the chinese version.

If they are not using capacitive buttons, then there is no need for the black bar at bottom, but for me would be really stupid for ZTE to leave the black bar there and not giving us at least the option to choose between capacitive buttons and on screen buttons.

So the 2 options would be to remove that bar or to give the option to use on-screen/capacitive buttons.

:rolleyes:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
I'm all for capacitive keys as they free some space on the screen but i get why people don't like them.

But in a case like this one, i'm not sure they could have gone without the black bar at the bottom... I mean you need some room to put everything inside, even more room than other devices since we got a dual front facing speaker here. So if the black bar is there no matter what, i don't get why it's such a bad thing to have capacitive keys with it. You can always disable them and activate on screen one (if not officialy, there are apps).
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
The black bars are there because the Chinese model uses capacitive keys in that spot. Google is your friend.

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As my previous statement says. On screen keys are the future. Capacitive keys and home buttons/FP scanners on front need to die to let screens expand. It would give a bigger usable screen area in the same size device, and allow bezels to be slimmed down even more as well. The tech is already in testing for FP scanners made into the digitizer/screen assembly itself.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
Result were fast enough after my inquiry over at zteusa.com :).

Here's the answer i got on the official board, from official zte representative (named zte_usa, it doesn't get more official than this :laugh:) :

So it looks like an awesome news, as they are giving us the choice of framerate at 1080p !

I guessed right a few post back :D.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ciko84xp:
Woooooow....... this is a surprise for me, i hope for a EU version without CK for a larger screen. I'm a clean front fan, almost minimalist. If i've to be honest a physical button on the back would be great for a chef, like LG, but i don't give up the fingerprint sensor. It would take a rear physical button with fingerprint sensor inside... :good: :cool:

I see this ZTE 3 or 4 days ago, but i've 1 wife; 1 very little son; 1 dog; 1 house; 1 mortgage loan; 1 car; 1 motorcycle and 1 boat that i'm preparing for the summer, in short, i've a life. For this I ask those who know more than me! :good: :D

This is really a good news... :good:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jon199021:
Well, I guess at this point then the best choice seems to be to wait for the US Version for larger screen real-estate without capacitive buttons, and hopefully then the even better news to make this a complete no-brainer would be that the 128GB ROM/ 6GB RAM model also comes to NA... my god that would be a beautiful resolution. That would be a "shut up and take my money" situation for sure.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] ciko84xp:
AHAHAHAH :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :good: A situation like "pleeeeeeeease take my moneyyyyyyyy...." - "sorry but your money are more then the real price" - "noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. there is no price that is enough!" :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] djona12:
A version with a bigger screen isn't gonna happen... Or at least not under the Axon 7 name (maybe a "Max" version in the future). It's either the capacitive buttons or a black bar with software keys on the screen.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] jon199021:
If that's the case, then who in their right mind would want to have the black bars + on-screen keys, meaning even less screen real-estate to work with in most situations... what a shame that'd be.

Even if people would want that for some ridiculous reason, I guess then it'd still be better to import the Chinese version of the phone to at least get the 128GB ROM/ 6GB RAM (this is all assuming it only is available in China in the end), disabling the capacitive buttons, and adding on-screen buttons through modding.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Chevyguy85:
Device looks interesting. I hope the US version gets capacitive buttons. I hate using the on screen buttons on my HP touchpad. More taps to do the same thing, and in my case slower or not at all. Constantly skipping around in videos instead of getting "back." To each their own. I've had 2 android phones and both have had capacitive buttons, I will continue to want them. My Find 7a is still going strong but this could be a possible replacement. So far only downside is the 1440p screen (don't have a need for it, not a deal breaker though) and non removable battery. If dev support is good though I'll probably end up picking one up.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
The screen is because of the Daydream and VR support it will get.

:p
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] fzrrich:
YES YES YES!!!!!! I LOVE EVERYTHING THE AXON 7 OFFERS!!!!! go check out their US forum if you want to discuss more about it and see what ZTE is up to https://community.zteusa.com. Also thank you XDA for always being here to help me with all of my custom rom issues!!! Everyone here is so intelligent and helpful!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
Very likely, YES

I carry two phones (personal and work) and though I currently have a Nexus 6P and a LG G5 I'm very seriously considering the Axon 7.

It will very likely replace my G5. I like the G5 and I don't have the horrid build quality that some had, but the following reason:

1. Axon 7 has all the high end specs to match and more (SD820, 4GB RAM, superior 64GB storage AND possible 6GB RAM and 126 GB storage version though it may not come to the US or not quickly, sadly)

2. HiFi audio for headphones built in. No expensive audio module that you now can't get in the US anyway. This is big for me as the G5 and nexus 6P both sound inferior to my old Note 4 via the headphone jack.

3. Dual stereo external speakers that so far are said to sound better than any other phone (Dolby Atmos)

4. Bigger 5.5" screen that is AMOLED vs the G5 5.3" IPS display (i perfer bigger and AMOLED).

5. Value, at its price point it seem like a great value in a flagship phone (as long as it doesn't revel some major flaw.)

6. With dual SIM I might be able to carry just one device at least sometimes.

Final determining factor:

1. reviews, will it actually be as good as the spec sheet suggest? Not have some major flaw?

2. Camera, can it's ~20MP camera compete with other flagships. It doesn't have to be the best, just compete with my 6P and G5.

Hope the 6GB RAM 128 GB storage model with 3D touch is also released in the US at launch.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Wagnelles:
Do we have any deeper information about it's DAC/AMPs? I want to know if they will perform better than the LG V10 on audio department. If so, then I'll be definitely buying this phone as soon as I can.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
I have no personal experience with either the V10 or Axon 7, but the last years Axon Pro had the same Audio chips as the Axon 7 and here is one persons comparison between the two (From an Android Authority post) :

"After weeks long comparison with the iPhone 6p, axon pro and v10 I have settled on the axon pro for its

luscious airy near 3d sound. The v10 has a tighter low end near instant decay across entire frequency spectrum

but the soundstage is so limited there's very little separation between foreground, midground and background.

The low -highs are not as crystal clear in the v10 as they are on the axon pro. The axon pro has a deep and wide

soundstage, amazing sharpness and clarity and it has amazing instrument separation: Manchester orchestra's

shake it out, ben Howard's empty corridors or snow patrol's new York. The combination of the axon pro with

the k3003i is as good as it gets in phone audio quality."

- Jj Wahwah
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
Here's the info I found about the audio chipsets. This is my post on the ZTE forum.

https://community.zteusa.com/message/13202
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] CCL X10:
I most definitely will be buying this IF the 6/128gb version comes to the US or international (and in a reasonably fast time frame), AND it gets good dev support. And if the camera is able to compete with current flagships. I understand it can't go even with Samsung's newest, but just close is good enough. I personally love that the higher end version also has capacitive keys activated. This is the first phone that's come out that I feel justifies upgrading from my old nexus 6. Once you've had front facing speakers, it's hard to go back. Count me in the dying breed that prefers capacitive keys over on screen. I get the argument. But for me, the spacebar comes way too close with the home and or multi task buttons and I find myself constantly hitting them when typing. Very frustrating. Also the whole having to use additional taps to do things like exit full screen in certain apps. Oh, and finally, thank God for a micro SD slot. I've very much missed that on this nexus.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] I3anter:
This is a perfect replica of my story as well! Trying to get the Axon 7 as a possible replacement for my Find 7a (Although it's only been a year since I bought it. I'll probably give it to my mom who's been needing an upgrade from her Lumia 630). Man, today I found out that the A7 will have capacitive buttons thanks to a confirmation in the ZTE forums and I seriously can't even wait any longer! I just hope I can at least root my phone without losing that Passport Protection thing. I'm not too worried about 2 years with their ROM since they will have an option to go to Vanilla Android which is just amazing!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] dennis96411:
Wait, really? It's been confirmed that the 4/64 version will have capacitive buttons?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] I3anter:
Yep, turns out all the hands-on videos and the ones already sold in China are of an older model and that the ones that are to be sold in USA and international markets will indeed have capacitive buttons! I guess they decided to listen to the customers hehe
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] dennis96411:
That's excellent news! Now I just need confirmation of an unlockable bootloader, and I will buy that phone the minute it comes out.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
Where is your source of this confirmation? Nothing has been confirmed or denied about capacitive keys on the US variant. Actually all hands on videos of the "US model" have shown only on-screen keys. Interested to see your confirmed official source.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] XblackdemonX:
Exactly. We just don't have any news about this phone AT ALL. WTF ZTE?!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] GCbard:
Can you show your source. Until now it was believed only the Chinese 6 GB version had capacitive keys and the 4gb international version did not.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] 02busa:
I got zero response from them asking the same right above.