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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blackra1n:
Alright mate. Cheers for the reply. I'm new to this phone and I really like it so far. I actually came from a Nexus 6. Way too big for my taste.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Agreed. That's what made me choose this phone as well. If you can get a hold of either of the two models I mentioned (XT1250 is identical to XT1254 but with an official, freely unlockable bootloader. Only catch is there is no 64gb version), you will not be disappointed.

Also, if you get an XT1250, hold on to your activated Verizon sim. It will make things easier.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blackra1n:
I'll definitely look into that. Thank you!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tr0meo:
okay i am slightly confused about all this. my brother has this phone (but they dont really interest him) so he took the OTA 49 update on a XT1254, and is otherwise running entirely stock, yet when I turned on his developer options there was an option to allow the bootloader to be unlocked. why would this option exist if it were not possible?

i did some extra digging and found this as well >>> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b though do not yet know if it applies.

some clarity would be great, forgive me im new, still learning.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
unlock?

When I get to work tomorrow, I'll try this and see if they will unlock it through Motorola, that would be cool!

Has anyone tried this yet?

--------------------------------update---------------------

"your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking" :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
If you have the XT1254 Droid Turbo you cannot unlock it via Motorola's site you had to do it via sunshine with SU4TL-44 if you have the SU4TL-49 update you are SOL unless sunshine gets updated and also you cannot downgrade so no luck there sorry
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
No. If your bootloader is not unlocked before "49", you are out of luck. That was the main purpose control freak Verizon pushed out the OTA.

Many, many warnings on here NOT to take that OTA if you ever wanted your bootloader unlocked. In fact, that is what this thread is about. Read the first post. ;)

It's quite simple. Until Sunshine found an exploit for the XT1254 in November 2015, the bootloader was locked down per Verizon. That was and is the only way to unlock the bootloader -- if you were on SU4TL-44. In May 2016, Verizon pushed out OTA SU4TL-49 to close that loophole. People had six months to unlock their bootloaders -- and can still do so as long as they are still pre-"49".

The good news is your brother doesn't care, or he would have unlocked his bootloader before now. In fact, you said he doesn't care.

To taunt you. It does not apply to the Verizon bootloader locked-down phones like the Droid Turbo XT1254. As long as your bootloader is locked down, Verizon owns your phone, not you -- and they like it that way.

That is only for phones where the carrier does not DEMAND Motorola keep the bootloader locked down. Like all the other Quarks -- XT1225 and XT1250. In fact that is how I unlocked two of my three XT1225 (the "international" version of the XT1254). And how I will also unlock the 3rd one whenever I ever take it out of the box.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tr0meo:
I read the entire thread but saw no mentions of the developer option to unlock OEM bootloader this is why I asked. I also mentioned the specific phone I am talking about doesn't belong to me and if it did I would not have taken the OTA. I ask questions for clarity, as again I saw no mention of anything related to the toggle in the developer options. Maybe I missed it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Unlock bootloader in dev options?

No harm in asking, but it's an old topic.

It's been an option in dev settings since 5.1 Lollipop a year ago, but does not apply to Verizon phones. People see it and ask, like you. But been discussed many, many times which is why it's not in this particular thread as it's nothing new, and is not relevant to the recent OTA.

But since you are curious, May 23 2016 seems to be the last time it was asked (before now):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66991265&postcount=213

The very first time I could find was June 30, 2015 (which was the day before 5.1 was released to the Droid Turbo XT1254):

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/enable-oem-unlock-lollipop-update-t3146730

With a dozen, two dozen times in between. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] edelbrock221:
Can you still root the device using moforoot on build su4tl-49?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
No. Moforoot was for Kitkat 4.4.4.

Verizon pushed Lollipop 5.1 to Droid Turbo XT1254 in July 2015.

Then, Sunshine bootloader unlock exploit (which allows REAL root and custom recovery) for Droid Turbo XT1254 came along in November 2015 and works specifically with Lollipop 5.1 SU4TL-44.

Verizon finally pushed out an OTA update (SU4TL-49) in May 2016 to close that exploit.

If you did not unlock your Droid Turbo XT1254 bootloader with Sunshine prior to SU4TL-49 OTA update, you are out of luck.

For those few people still on Kitkat 4.4.4 (who never took the Lollipop update a year ago), they can cautiously flash SU4TL-44 -- making sure they do NOT take the SU4TL-49 update -- and still use Sunshine to unlock their bootloaders.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] edelbrock221:
Damn so I'm ****ed then
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kiet.nguyen:
damnnn, my XT1254 is already in SU4TL-49 without unlockbootloader, so sad.... anybody tell me how to go back to .44 or anything else to unlockbootloader??? :((
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
You can't

You could try sunshine and see if it works (

the worst case it doesn't)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kiet.nguyen:
oh hell no... what can i do now, wait 6.0.1?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Two choices:

1) sell your locked down phone on Swappa, and buy another Droid Turbo XT1254 off Swappa/eBay that has lesser firmware. You can run Sunshine on it.

2) sell your locked down phone on Swappa, and by a U.S. Moto XT1250, the FCC IDentical phone to the Droid Turbo XT1254. Same FCC ID, same radio bands, same specs. It's an XT1254 Droid Turbo under another model name. (Only the name was exclusive to Verizon, not the device. DOZENS of U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers sold this phone.) XT1250 runs on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card, just like a non-Verizon Moto Nexus 6. Oh, and free bootloader unlock code via Motorola, just like all the other Quarks except for the XT1254.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
It won't kill the phone to try
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Not clear what you would be waiting for. This is a 2014 phone. Took a year (November 2015) to find the Sunshine exploit which was Snapdragon 805 specific. By the time 6.0.1 is officially released (July 2016? August 2016?), we're closing in on two year old phone.

The Sunshine team admits they are not actively looking for more exploits for this phone. They already completed that mission and everybody who wanted to unlock the phone had SIX months to do it (November 2015 - May 2016) before Verizon pushed an update to close that exploit. If someone didn't unlock their phone during that time, then they don't really care.

The Sunshine team has other, newer phones to work on...

Your realistic options are listed in this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67437983&postcount=52
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kiet.nguyen:
I just buy it yesterday, now i know im in trouble... so sad
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Melonhed:
Do you happen to have a link or instructions you could direct me to for these steps. Because I am an idiot I installed the update w/o researching outcome 1st.

So I get stuck in a TWRP bootloop. I was at least ambitious enough to make a back up in recovery after 1st rooting & got past the loops once going back to that point.

However.... It seems the update download is still there & the phone wants me to install it again.

So.... Each day I get a reminder to install & I hit remind me later w/ the option of up to 24 hrs in the future.

Would LOVE some advice on what to do.

Thx!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] itsdubai:
Hey guys I have a Droid Turbo 64gb that I BL unlocked already and I'm not using. Would be willing to sell possibly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You will definitely find some interest, but can't sell it here. XDA has a deal with Swappa, so no sales on these boards. You can post it there and tell people here to look for it. (I think that's permissible.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jugernot:
Use Motorola update utility to update your phone. Bought one off of swappable wouldn't Ota update either, but their utility updated it just fine to 49.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Just make sure you unlock your bootloader first, or you can't root after installing the update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ozzuneoj:
I'm planning to buy a Droid Turbo for use on Tracfone BYOP (Verizon LTE). I want the bootloader to be unlockable. What is the easiest way I can ask a seller the version of the phone to be sure it hasn't taken the latest OTA that permanently locks the phone?

Also, is the XT1250 100% identical to the XT1254 and compatible with Verizon and Tracfone? The phone has to run off of Verizon towers in this area or it will be useless. Does it have any possibility of becoming permanently locked like the XT1254? Or is it safe to buy *ANY* XT1250 and unlock the bootloader for free? If so, the price for a used one comes much closer to that of the cheaper XT1254+bootloader unlock (and there's less of a gamble).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Tell them you want to see a screenshot of Settings/About Phone where it shows the firmware version. Should be SUTL-44 or lower. You can always upgrade to SUTL-44, but if it's higher than that, it's useless for your purposes.

The XT1250 is totally identical to the XT1254. The FCC ID proves it. The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx has bootloader unlocked through code given by Motorola website, just like the sibling XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx.

See this post:

"dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/dev-version-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3391792

The Verizon guy broke his XT1254 and bought XT1250 as replacement, because of course it's identical.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dwh2o13:
First of all thanks to all for this very useful information. I'm currently using my xt1254, on 5.1, build number SU4TL-44. Also currently not rooted. I will in the future want to root and unlock so I have been diligently backing out of all the OTA Update flashes that I have been plagued with popping up on my screen since it came out. I definitely don't want to jeopardize losing the opportunity to use Sunshine to UL. Is there a way to stop the annoying reminders for the update? Don't want to accidentally accept at some point down the line.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Why not go ahead and use Sunshine now? Unlock the bootloader and root. Takes a few minutes, is all. That way you won't matter about the OTA notices. Why are you procrastinating?

Sunshine has been available since November 2015. People who procrastinated suddenly found SUTL-49 on their phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dwh2o13:
lol.. You've got a great point there. When using Sunshine, does it just give temp root to unlock. If so what is the proper method to regain root and I'm assuming also getting TWRP recovery. Still a bit knew to rooting. Thanks in for your help.. Appreciate it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[GUIDE] How to unlock your bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684

Section 1 is using Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. Takes just a few minutes. You do that and it can't be locked again by Verizon. If you feel exhausted for the day, you can stop there. ;)

Section 2 is installing TWRP

Section 3 is rooting in TWRP.

Section 4 is stuff you can do after installing TWRP and root.

Ignore Section 0 -- you are already on SUTL-44.

Again, you can tackle 2, 3, and 4 later if you wish.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dwh2o13:
LOL Thanks for all your help.. I'll try not to over do it :).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
I swear, if they come out with a .49 updated unlocker, I will do it the day it's announced.. still feel dumb for getting locked out :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I have no connection to Sunshine team, but if I did have some kind of exploit of which Verizon was not aware the best bet would be to wait until Verizon finally releases Marshmallow and then throw it out there. Took Verizon 6 months to patch the last exploit. IF they released it now (before Marshmallow), Verizon might be petty enough to delay Marshmallow even longer to patch it first. :rolleyes:

However, Sunshine team has said they are not actively looking for exploits for the Droid Turbo any longer.

1) They already found one and

2) the Droid Turbo is now almost two years old.

Right now the only "cure" for SUTL-49 is to sell the locked down XT1254 and buy a used XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx. Same exact device as the XT1254 Droid Turbo -- same FCC ID, same radio bands, works on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card just like a non-Verizon Moto Nexus 6 -- but has easily unlocked bootloader for free via Motorola website).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] allhill:
oh no... i just get the droid turbo, already updated and still locked bootloader... so no hope to gain root access? :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Rooting is possible (most likely w kingroot tho..) So you just can't unlock the bootloader (if you want to try and see if sunshine will unlock the BL go ahead worst case should be nothing happens best case it unlocks) I'm not responsible if you try it tho there are risks to everything
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Kingroot, assuming it works (I don't think it does on .49), gives a very temporary root at best. At worst, it will corrupt your system partition and you'll have to reflash it. I strongly recommend against using it, and I also recommend against people recommending that it be used.

Also, the Sunshine team updated the app so that it will not even provide temp root on .49. As soon as it detects .49, it gives you a sorry no dice message. I think if Sunshine was capable of unlocking .49, the community would probably know by now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Please go read the OP by Sunshine team member [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]. Sunshine bootloader unlock will NOT work on SUTL-49. That is the WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD!

Right. We've have lots of complaints from people Sunshine doesn't work on SUTL-49, because Verizon specifically released SUTL-49 to block the exploit. Oh, sure they claimed it was for "security reasons", but it was to keep the bootloader locked down in spite of what customers want.

All the other Quarks can be unlocked for free via code given by Motorola.

Point is, there's no use saying Sunshine "might" work on SUTL-49 when Sunshine team themselves says it doesn't. The OP from Sunshine team:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
Boy am I ****ed, I just bought this phone and had to give up my beloved Droid 4 and Xperia Pro after almost 6 years and now I am stuck with an non-rootable phone from my last budget. Any options would be highly appreciated but I think I will just have to deal with being annoyed every single day holding this thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Actually waht we did was we updated it so temproot is only provided to the SunShine application, and we had to do it for the dumbest reason ever. We knew people would us it for temproot without buying even if temproot wasn't perfectly stable, we didn't really care if they did, not until a few people got really aggressive and spammed our support about our "trial mode" not working right. SunShine has no trial mode, they were complaining about temproot not being perfect.

I cant waste hours a day helping angry people over a trialmode that just doesnt exist, and I'm also not going to take abuse over it.

So temproot is limited to just sunshine now
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] allhill:
thank for the explanation guys... i wonder the best way is sell the .49 and buy the .44...

now ordering the .44 droid, hope tonight i can unlocked it. thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Just sell the .49 on swappa pick yourself up one running .44 then your able to unlock it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] allhill:
got my .44 and already unlocked, its will be safe to update to .49 rite? btw thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
If its already unlocked I'm gonna bet it has TWRP already too but if you want stock and you want .49 use this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3390041

Also there's computerfreaks ROM its stock based as well

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3255945

I think most of us are running cyanogenmod, resurrection remix or mokee there are lollipop and marshmallow versions of these three ROMs personally I run RR 6.0.1 so you have options now
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] loukouk:
I did the exact same thing. The only option is to get a new phone. I bought mine refurbished off amazon so I had no issues returning it because of some "scratches". You're SOL if your buyer won't take it back though... Maybe sell it on Swappa?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
https://youtu.be/njXQYn53SPc

Would this process allow us to roll back to 44 and make unlocking work again?

Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] doubledragon5:
I don't think so.. Once the boot loader was upgraded, there is no going back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
It seems to only be a tutorial on how to create a .bat file in Windows 10 so as to not have to use RSDLite, which does not work well in Windows 10. He is taking the exact same steps RSDLite would take but converting them to a text file, which he makes into a .bat file and cleaning up the commands.

There is no evidence using Windows 10 .bat file would help you revert to SUTL-44 bootloader if RSDLite can't help you revert to SUTL-44 bootloader.

At 15:50 he even talks a little about the bootloader.

But you can always try it yourself to confirm.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
I keep coming back hoping there's a .49 crack, still kicking myself for taking that update without unlocking...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/767726676109238272

it's about to get real..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Oh, my.

Of course, procrastinators will STILL NOT use it, and then be mad when Verizon pushes out another OTA "security" update. They'll happily take that! :rolleyes:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
not again!

not me, not this time, as soon as this is out and verified by the community, I'm doing it!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mathk:
Time to buy[emoji3]
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dentedilupo:
hurray :)

verizon bye bye
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] doubledragon5:
Good I can finally get my new refurbished droid back to unlock, and my way...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] asimzb:
so you guys r saying that there is NO WAY we can unlock bootloader on SU4TL-49 except upcoming sunshine method????

now i regret getting OTA updates.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Right. There's also no way you can unlock bootloader on ANY firmware without Sunshine. :rolleyes: Sunshine is the only way to unlock Verizon Droid Turbo bootloader. It only works with SUTL-44 (since November 2015) and soon with SUTL-49. The people who regretted getting updates were the ones who took the May 2016 OTA update to SUTL-49 BEFORE unlocking their bootloaders on SUTL-44. There's LOTS of warnings NOT to take SUTL-49 here in these threads.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] asimzb:
Thanks for the info,

At least there is a hope of unlocking SUTL-49, thanks to Sunshine guys.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Sunshine will now unlock bootloader on Verizon SUTL-49 on the Droid Turbo XT1254:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68384014&postcount=21
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
Paid and done, I won't get caught out in the cold again... Thx guys, you're the best!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dwh2o13:
Still on SUTL-44.. any worries using Sunshine now that it has been updated
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
nope, sunshine will still work with 44
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhcreed:
Now that it's unlocked, are OTA updates safe to take? Can it be re locked? Thx
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] doubledragon5:
I would not as it may relock your phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
If stock rom is modified, updates will usually fail.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] paulo_junior:
I will install the Brazillian stock rom after unlock my bootloader, my Droid Turbo will receive the OTA updates? The .49 update was downloaded and installed automatically, I can block this process with a rooted Droid Turbo?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I'm guessing at your meaning, so here goes...

If you install Brazilian stock ROM found here:

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234

You have to install this with TWRP. After installing this, your Droid Turbo will NOT receive OTA updates. You will have TWRP custom recovery installed which will prevent any furtther OTA updates.

If you currently have SUTL-49, the new version of Sunshine will still unlock your bootloader, yes. You have to do this before installing an ROM like that above.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] paulo_junior:
In the past, I tried install the Brazillian Stock Rom 5.1 with no success, my Droid Turbo was stuck in loop in language first screen, only with the Verizon Stock Rom I got access to Android system/Google Play to install Sunshine apk, but I will try again
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You can only install Brazilian Marshmallow ROM above for the Droid Turbo. [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] adapted it to work with the Droid Turbo XT1254.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] paulo_junior:
I live in Brazil, so I need local LTE/3G configuration to use an chip and make calls normally, that ROM will work for this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yes. That ROM by [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] will use whatever radio you have installed. Since you the XT1254, you will need to use XT1254 radio. You cannot use an XT1225 radio, BUT the XT1254 radio has LTE bands 3 & 7, which Brazil uses. Plus some HSPA bands.

Have you used the DROID TURBO at all in Brazil? If you have, and it worked, it will continue to work with the Brazil Marshmallow ROM [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] adapted to install with TWRP.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] paulo_junior:
No, I never used cause I got my Droid Turbo with .49 version updated, I've been expecting Sunshine unlock since this