yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
For those of you concerned by this warning by [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] here a new interesting standalone smartwatch.

It's design seems to resemble something :rolleyes:

KingWear MTK6580 Android 5.1

Key Specifications:

Hardware specifications:

CPU: MTK6580 Quad core 1.3GHz

OS: Android 5.1

RAM: 512MB

ROM: 4GB

SIM card: Micro SIM; 3G supported

Display: 1.39 inches AMOLED whole round HD resolution: 400*400 pixel；260000 colors

Touch screen: OGS capacitive screen, full bonding technology

Bluetooth: Ver 4.0+Wifi+GPRS

Battery: 350mAh high power polymer battery； Bluetooth connection standby: >1 Week； normal use: > 2 days

Interface: Magnetic connection, charge and data transfer

Phone functions: WCDMA850/2100, 850/1900, 900/1900, 900/2100

Vendor page:

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Watch-phone/p/sm/1139830461.htm
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
Link is broken tho
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It works for me.

--- edit ---

Try this ink also:

http://kingwear.manufacturer.global.../Watch-phone/1139837455/Cellphone-Watches.htm
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
That works thanks :D
[Other SmartWatches] lKinder_Bueno:
Is the strap removable?

Inviato dal mio SM-G935F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] rockabilly:
Looks nice but buyed presale the Mlais Wear-Smartwatch. :)

Gesendet von meinem D5803 mit Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It isn't. There are antennas inside.

Don't worry I asked, this watch will be available next month.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
wonder if it has micro sd slot
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It will have the micro SD slot, from what I know
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
If so I'll maybe consider it but again only if it has good battery life as the D5
[Other SmartWatches] flumpster:
Is that a camera on the side below the button? If so that would make it ideal for me to use skype and replace my D5.

I'm not fussy on the silver fins tho that protrude out into the strap.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Yes it is a camera, but currently we don't have further details.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Some pictures of the Android 5.1 UI of this watch.

Almost similar to IQI I2 interface:

[YOUTUBE]fpUhyp2cHvQ[/YOUTUBE]
[Other SmartWatches] jaxplanner1989:
So this will work on US 3G bands? Won't the 512 MB RAM hurt performance some?

---------- Post added at 02:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:42 PM ----------

I should have clarified, will it work with GSM 3G bands like AT&T?
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
At the moment all the Chinese manufactured watches can only do 2G US bands
[Other SmartWatches] Venomqld:
Where you buy yours from? has your order been shipped yet?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
My chat with Kingwear representative:

Me: So you confirm 101% that it supports WCDMA 850/2100, 850/1900, 900/1900, 900/2100 bands, so that it can operate on all US 3G networks

Her: yes, 200% confirm
[Other SmartWatches] jaxplanner1989:
If that's the case, then count me in. I just wish the RAM and ROM were 1 GB and 8GB like the other new watches that are hitting the market now.
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
Do we have an ETA of sale yet?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
No ETA till now, but it will be in next 4 weeks.

In the meanwhile, further details about specs.

It has CE, RoHS and MSDS certitifications but it doesn't have any IPxx certification, it is said to be "daily waterproof, hand washing is ok, not diving product" though.

It has a 2Mpix camera, for pictures and videos, and it has a micro SD slot up to 32GB.

Bluetooth pairing with Android and IOS will support notification push and call handling - it should be able to answer a call from the phone.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
most of it's specs is what i'm looking for only if it was ip67 it was an ideal watch but one ot 2 choices i'm looking at for buying.
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Is 1gig of ram going to make that much difference on such a small watch the resolution isn't like a phone and the programs used wouldn't be that ram hungry, just a thought.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Preview of a sample unit of the KingWear KW88 (this is the official name of this smartwatch)

[YOUTUBE]5R-t9MC-C54[/YOUTUBE]
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
It's got the same OS as the Z9 o.o but less watch faces better specs tho memory wise
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Could you share the image of the ROM taken with the Read Back function of SP Flash tool?
[Other SmartWatches] jaxplanner1989:
According to the representative I talked to, the ETA is in about 2 weeks, middle of June.
[Other SmartWatches] rockabilly:
Is the mSD-Card feature sure?

Gesendet von meinem D5803 mit Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
Can you walk me through the process?
[Other SmartWatches] Alukrad:
Thank you!
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
No SD card slot!

I've just got this pictures which deny what we knew so far.
[Other SmartWatches] jaxplanner1989:
Thanks for the heads up. I confirmed with rep, no TF card slot. It would been a nice feature to have.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
so... now left to see what the s99 has to offer because i want the sd card
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
S99 here for $124 or I2 for $119 http://www.buyswear.com/s99-android...wcdma-bluetooth-4-0-hd-camera-smartwatch.html

S99 has no 1900 band for 3g and it looks like none of the new ones do :(

I also cannot see mention of SD card here for s99 but on the other website it does. http://www.zgpax.com/androidwatch/41-55.html
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
true, most zgpax watches have sd card slot but i'm not sure about that because it is so similar to the kingwear.

i think it is better to wait and see what will come out.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
To me, ZGPax appears more similar to IQI I2 and Lemfo LEM3 due to HR sensor central position and to 1.3" IPS 360x360 display, while KingWear has the HR sensor in different position and 1.39" AMOLED 400x400 display ;)
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
i'm starting to think maybe for now just wait i love my D5 and only if i see something better then i'll go for it still want ot see what the 5.1 watches has better than the 4.4 watches .
[Other SmartWatches] rockabilly:
This watch got gps or not ?

Gesendet von meinem SM-N920C mit Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
I have just spoken with a rep from king wear and have been told there will be a companion app which apart from doing the usual stuff will be able to add watch faces.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It has GPS

Most probably the app will be this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wakeup.watchmanager
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6-bXnCDbE

is this the kingwear?
[Other SmartWatches] RASTAVIPER:
If you compare with links of the first posts you will know.

Unleashed by my M1 NOTE
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
No, it appears another version of the same hardware of the I2, Lem3, ZGPax S99
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Yes tried that on my i2 wouldn't work.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
I must correct myself, it will be the same as for the I2, Sinwear

It IS an S99 clone.
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
I hope it's not just sinwear as that doesn't allow for adding watch faces and the rep said that you would be able to through the companion app. But then again the Chinese do like to twist the truth a bit
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
It will be a new version of the app with supposedly more functions
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
That will be awsome.
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
If the strap is the same as pic I don't believe it would have the antennas there as it looks like molded silicon.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Look better at the pictures on this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67149070&postcount=31

You will see compartments in the straps near the case and you can also see the antenna wire which goes from the case to the strap in the second picture ;)
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Oh now I look closer and zoom in I can see. You really are the wise one that has been talked about through history. Good find though.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Release date fixed for the 21th of June ;)
[Other SmartWatches] jaxplanner1989:
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing what this model can do.
[Other SmartWatches] E.U.A:
Really? Where did you see that?

Manufacturer page has no information about it.

Also there are two different pages for same watch:

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Watch-phone/p/sm/1139830461.htm

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Watch-phone/p/sm/1140485792.htm

I don't know what is different between those watches except the price.

US$ 60 - US$ 78 vs US$ 78 - US$ 85
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
My source tells me about 24th as the software is not even properly finished.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
it seems the Kingwear is pre-sale: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102633896476854395510/posts/JsGPo6CoUo4
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
Seems very interesting. How is the embedded keyboard ? Is it like the truesmart and most Android apps work ? (snapchat, instagram, tinder...)

I'd like to be able to write easily sms as I used to be with not-round smartwatch.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
i use voice typing more than the keyboard itself. doday you can find good keyboard which works great with these round watches and hopefuly more and more developers will make their apps suit our watches.

watch Smartwatch Ticks channels, he has really great videos on keyboard and apps that suit our watches:)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYeF5HjQaEr_b5TAUu7VCfw/videos

you are welcome to join our community:) https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
Can't we have the normal / basic Android keyboard that every android phones have ? I had this one with my truesmart and I absolutely loved it
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
actually you can:) and it wil work not less than the other:)
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
Just perfect thanks you :D I buy it !

I love autonomous Watch phones, I am using them for 7 years now :) I use them to phone, listen to music, read send sms/mms, go on facebook, internet tethering... I hope this one will last me more than one year ^^

Last but not least, I find it very regretable that every watch phones use a charging cradle. They are all very fragile, this is sad. Instead of using directly a regular usb cable :(
[Other SmartWatches] RASTAVIPER:
And which watchfone you were using 7 years ago?

Unleashed by my M1 NOTE
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
This one: https://www.chinavasion.com/china/w...-Quad_Band_Touchscreen_Mobile_Phone_Watch_MP4

I have nothing to say about this watch, I used it for at least 3 years. It was a perfect watch, it had NO charging cradle, but directly a usb cable. That was so convenient. It had an embedded stylus in the wrist and it was so cool ! Oh my.

The UI was intuitive also. Before, there were no Android so I can say, it was very cool. It just lacked a smooth internet, wifi, gps, and 3g. Otherwise, it had everything I needed. It was also my mobile mp3 and video player.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
not sure i had s8 smartwatch that after few days the usb port was damaged and i had to buy new and do the job on my on because no place i found that do that so every way has its bad and good. this watch can last more then a year (i think....:))
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
I might not buy it after all. 350 Mah for a battery means only half of day of use, this is nothing. The truesmart was 600 mah and was already painful.

And there is only 2gb of memory (4gb - 2gb for android), no tf-card support , without even talking about the round face that makes android applications shrinks. Last but not least, the straps are still not removable. I guess we have a long way to go before perfect autonomous watch phones :(

Edit: But even if things are lacking, I need a watch phone and this might be the best so far. I guess. :)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Here's what a lot of people don't get. Standalones have specific usage case. Few calls, few texts, little to no social media interaction on device, not need to have email sync every 5 seconds, and so on. Basically, a light usage device that offers far more than a feature phone but less than a 8 core monster phone. With that in mind, 4 days or more on a TS is possible, two days on a D5/K9/X5, 3 days on an inWatch Z and so on. At 350mah, assuming the firmware is decent, a full day plus some is very achievable. So with that more reasonable usage case in mind, 8,16,128GB is also not needed.
[Other SmartWatches] shideneyu:
Yeah, I guess this is exactly where I fail. It has been years that I use exclusively my autonomous watch phones as a complete PDA. I use it to send mail, to read them as soon as I get one, send 50 sms per day with the embedded keyboard (I type lightning fast on my Truesmart), go on facebook, Tinder, Snapchat, discuss with my friends on messenger. Taking pictures and sending them as mms, and internet hotspot tethering when I had my computer to charge it nearby. Also, I use it as a GPS with google map when I'm out and lost in Paris' streets. Listening to music for hours while walking out with my bluetooth headset. Go on the internet to do a fast search for something (weather forcast, definition of a word...)

My watch phones are my daily companions. And I have no ambitions in buying a "real phone" to plug a "connected watch" on it. I consider non-watch smartphones as a burden. If the battery on the watch phones was the only issue, I would only have to use my portable charger, but the charging cradle is just horrible and definitely incompatible in writing sms while charging.

Everyone has their own point of view of the things but I do not think that the usage case should be dictated by the technology behind each watches, Lokifish Marz :) If it is not convenient, I just have to get used to it, and everything begins to change. It's hard in the beginning, and then it becomes useful and I would even say, vital :) But I understand that sometimes, it can be too painful to even consider. I'll see.

By the way, as you are reading this and as I know that you are also a watch lover, I think that this will make your day :) No. Even your year ;) I have been waiting for this for ten years, and it finally comes to life. This is a finger bone transmission wrist that transmits calls' voices to your ears through your finger. Enjoy ! http://innomdlelab.com/

You know understand that I'm trying to find a watch that does not have an embedded antenna in the band ^^
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
Omate Rise (I get into consideration round only) have ridiculous price.

At this price I would add a little and choose Blocks watch instead.

So D5/X3/X5 with their below 100$ price are just budget versions with their drawbacks.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Users report the Rise has issues, as well as Omate saying that no Rise is a finished product but only beta devices for developers.
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
So my kw88 is on its way via dhl hopefully more luck with this then the i2.
[Other SmartWatches] joint00:
Where can i buy this smartwatch? only on Aliexpress?

What would you choose between D5 and KW88?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
KW88 is currently available in pre-sale on Aliexpress only.

D5 and KW88 are quite different in many aspect and the choice really depends by your taste.

- Android base: 5.1 on KW88 - 4.4 on D5

- Display: AMOLED 1.39" 400x400 on KW88 - IPS 1.3" 360x360 on D5

- Strap: Silicon on KW88 - Leather on D5

The big difference on KW88 is that it is claimed to support also the 850/1900 3G bands, that is a must for US and some other countries.
[Other SmartWatches] E.U.A:
Price jump by $30. Sad...
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
OK so I have it in my grubby little hands. Need to charge up and I will then post more. First impressions, screen is great very responsive and much lighter then the i2. Standby for more.
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Can confirm the kw88 has vibration function and it works.
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
I m waiting for the delivery of this watch. could you tell us more about it ?
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Very nice , same sort of issues as i2 and they are trying to iron them out before full release. Very responsive, I haven't got Google running on mine yet , cannot find the correct version but they have said it will have it and I will get the firmware hopefully tomorrow to try. I think the 1900 frequency the USA want will also be there.

I did try to get the play store etc from i2 firmware but not sure what files, also can't get root the same way I did with i2.
[Other SmartWatches] tanazu:
Do you really have GPS? In the features it does not come anywhere, only GPRS
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
Updated firmware. From the beautiful Zoe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g_bZ9wRFjI
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
did you try this new firmware ? my watch is on the way with DHL .... can't wait to know your opinion with this device :)
[Other SmartWatches] snake65:
No haven't got the firmware yet, but it still seems very good, the screen NB ring amoled is awesome.
[Other SmartWatches] Denwa:
What's the water resistance like?

Can anyone confirm it works on att/telus etc?

Anyone have a link for purchase or is it still on presale?
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
It's splash proof at most.

Gearbest now have it on sale now: http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_397745.html

But, I bought it here on Aliexpress and the seller has been excellent - first shop to offer it on presale. Also, you'll probably get it cheaper:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pres...679600404.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.132.OSv4d3
[Other SmartWatches] dragon-tmd:
It is NOT water resistant at all. Never ever expose it to more water than small raindrops.
[Other SmartWatches] Denwa:
ATT/Telus/Bell compatibility notice

Zoe Chan emailed me today and said that the first production runs will not be fully compatible with all USA/Canada cell services.

They are holding back my order till a later (compatible) production run.
[Other SmartWatches] tanazu:
And in Europe, Spain?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Current production of KW88 supports the 900/2100 3G bands that are fine for all European countries.
[Other SmartWatches] Denwa:
Email said:
[Other SmartWatches] tanazu:
thanks, regards

Enviado desde mi SM-G935F mediante Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
got mine since yesterday.

firts I can say :

wifi works very well

app sinwear companion works good with bluetooth notifications from galaxy s7

3g is ok ( in France with Bouygues telecom operator)

screen is awsome : beautifull,reactive etc.

installed with no problem : gmail, google agenda.

added open mic+ for ok google like ( thanks to SmartWatch Ticks youtube channel). works well but seems the words 'okay google' can't match. Just changed the words with 'wake up' and now every thing is ok.
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
Hi, the app simwear with bluetooth, can you read the notification? can you receive with thw app also the calls?

The heartrate is good?:confused:
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
I will test after charging ....

the battery drain seems to be a big problem :

this mornig with 3g on , gps off and bleutooth off : 1 phone call 3min) + 1 mms sent, 1/2 hour screen on, and 1 apps installed from 3g : battery was at 9% after 4 hours ... draining is amazing .

next update will optimize this ( Pablo Eleven on G+)
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
yes notification are ok with bluetooth : I cut 3g and wifi and just let bt : incoming call on my phone is notified on the watch as well as sms or mails.

That's just notifications, you can't do anything more, no interaction is possible

the heartrate take 72 bpm with no particular activity, that's seems ok.
[Other SmartWatches] mobileshailesh:
Which smart watch to buy kingwear KH88 or No. 1 D5 pls help me. Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
they both get support from the developers so go with the Kingwear watch because it has better hardware and an updated software.
[Other SmartWatches] xitrum4692:
What phone are you pairing it with? I have an iPhone and I wonder if it can get the notification from the phone, and use the phone's Internet connection, since I don't intend to use it with a simcard.
[Other SmartWatches] karabounga:
My phone is a galaxy s7. I don't, I don't know if iphone is ok with android watches ...
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
Have you notice for the battery drain? With the wireless,bluetooth will I arrive for one days?
[Other SmartWatches] ciopyn:
In addition, the measurement of heart rate is detected automatically at intervals or you have to activate the function every time?
[Other SmartWatches] E.U.A:
Here is the review.

https://youtu.be/kJ2XeQXzF9E?t=10m10s

Good phone but, phone doesn't show your selected watch face when you twist your arm.

Soooo dummy...
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
Had another close look at +SmartWatch Ticks new video where he disconnects the battery from the watch. https://youtu.be/8U2-AlW54a8

At the outer rim where the battery connector goes are two solder/test pads on the pcb. If these are equal to the +/- of the battery that would enable us to replace the specific battery with a generic one.

These batteries are cheap, but that comes sometimes with a price. that price is called Internal Resistance. The battery wil measure 4.25 volts when fully charged, but as soon as the watch is powered on, the internal resistance wil drop the voltage conciderably.

I've seen some posts where people have good and some bad battery life experiences. These could be caused by a better or worse internal resistance. Same batch of batteries, cheap production line.

With these two solderpads, you would have the option to cheaply replace the battery. They only cost a few dollars.

I'll test the pads as soon as I've recieved the watch

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[Other SmartWatches] eddygoolash:
KW88 Battery Update

Hi All . Just recieved this email from manufacturer after contacting them before i purchase . I am also concerned over battery . Note the size of battery they are now quoting ?

Dear Kim,

Here's Erik. We are the original factory of KW88, and KW88 is our newly launched model.

Sample can be sent against payment in 3 days. The sample price is 85 US$, PayPal is accepted, the DHL freight for 1 sample to UK(0.5kg) is 23 USD.

We have optimized the battery and debugged the fireware, and now battery is no problem, battery is 400mAh.

About Kingwear:

Is the top3 smart wearing products supplier and solution provider among second brand

Has its own manufacturing base, R&D center and marketing department both for pre-sales and after sales service.

Was voted as the president of Shenzhen Smart Wearing Association.

Some of our models had been delivered over 1,200,000 units each model annually, the products have patent certificates.

Have bulit cooperation relationship with some famous brands such as Polaroid, Emart and Hyundai.

5 subsidiaries

Here the features of KW88 for your reference:

Model KW88 (latest model of this month)

Features as below:

CPU MTK6580 quad core 1.3Ghz , perfectly support both IOS and Android OS, 4G ROM+ 512MB

Built-in Android 5.1 OS

Micro Sim; 3G supported,WCDMA

1.39 inch AMOLED whole round HD；resolution：400*400 pixel；260000 colors

WIFI

GPS

Camera Real 2.0 Mega pixel

G-sensor, support pedometer, sedentary alarm, sleep analysis, gesture

Heart rate checking

Bluetooth 4.0 information synchronization

Magnetic charger

Aluminum alloy case with CNC technology

Easy online software upgrade

Best Regards,

Erik

Marketing Director (overseas)

Shenzhen Kingwear Intelligent Technology Co.,Ltd

en.king-world.cn

Mob/whatsapp: +86 15976887636

Tel: +86 (755) 23592022

Skype: ericchon2

QQ: 949822064

Wechat: 949822064

Email: zhuangwx@king-world.cn
[Other SmartWatches] Carpot:
Hi,

i ask to Order 1 Sample.

I'm waiting for response from Kingswear.

Update:

I Order now the KW88 directly from KingWear.

I Hope that the KW88 next week comes.
[Other SmartWatches] kaczy9999:
If someone will open it up and sneak out inside, plese search the mainboard for microsd slot pads or otg pin (5th pin of microusb, it will alow to install some sort of very small pendrive inside).