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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Ah, the joys of Verizon. Serves me right for subscribing and replying without checking which forum I'm in... :eek:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
You know, root access, that hard fought battle that allows us to actually DO SOMETHING with the $$$$ Android gear we've invested in? All you good folks who work so hard developing these solutions and ways to make devices work better (and the way they SHOULD work) are very much appreciated by most of us whose lives you've made better in doing so. I've rooted every one of several Android devices I've owned since their inception, and will only continue to purchase the ones which can be rooted (and have REAL removable SD cards, that my device apps can actually ACCESS.....but that's another rant...lol.....). But I could never have done it without all the continued help from your development community.

Thank you all for your efforts!! :good::good:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] All4TheFam:
Ok, I have searched everywhere and haven't seen an answer to the question the wife and I have. Verizon tried to push updates to our HTC 10's this morning I postponed then downloading and installing to find out if it will screw with Sunshine. The wife and I haven't been able to yet and plan to soon. Just don't want to be locked out.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 1droidmod:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=68386389
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] All4TheFam:
Sorry not sure what that link was supposed to answer. Maybe I should add that we are stock, s on, bootloaders locked. My phone is 2weeks old, wife's is 3 days old. We plan to unlock and s-off but haven't had time to yet. I have seen it in the past that an update will bork root and unlock methods and don't want to take the latest update until I know.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I know the xtc2clip guys helped a lot of people so I am just for everyone getting unlocked if they want to it can be a team effort between the sunshine crew and the xtc2clip guys whatever gets the job done and gets people unlocked is everyones main goal right :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Boeoaouo:
I'm just happy to be able to get the information straight from the horse's mouth this time instead of through several conflicting guides like when I did S-off the M8 2 years ago, when half of the results still linked to firewater instead of sunshine
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Early builds were done via firewater. Later done by sunshine. Same team. Evolution of software in the wild.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
XTC and SunShine work in very different ways, and we have different goals. Because of this we just wouldn't work well together.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Hey big D really glad your going to be on the HTC 10 team, now if Mr Andy Bones does his Fluent goodness we will be set : ) been sporting a moto nexus 6 but missing the cool HTC dev guys hopefully we get a 5.7 or even better a 5.9 2016 HTC nexus 6 with an sd slot then we all can be set : )

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Main goal is the same unlock unlock unlock freedom baby it's all about the end result, our devices that we own and 100% paid for subsidy free, being free.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
Main goal isn't the same.

We also can't take the same risks being in the US, if we were associated with them, or we used stolen HTC code/keys in our software, we would be sued so hard our grand kids would feel it. They are outside the reach of the US courts, they don't have the same risks.

We are also pretty picky about intellectual property, not just for the "dont sue me bro" reasons.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Lets just agree to disagree and agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I have no desire to get in to any kind of debate. We can both agree we both have better things to do.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brianp48093:
Just ordered mine! Packing up phone as we speak. This is awesome!!! :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Amen brother it's a sweet phone : )
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] would it help at all if someone started a bounty for sunshine support?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
No, we won't claim bounties when we intend to sell, plus it is not a financial issue, its a time issue.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] MsEvyLynch:
I mean it seems like you guys have the exploit, just putting it on an apk is the issue right? Of course I'm no dev. Could you guys do something like sunshine but as a paid PC software to get s off if apk is an issue
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Could be soon https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/730235070712176643
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Evocm7:
Damnit! I just paid for the mail in service and was going to ship tomorrow! It's the same price but plus shipping! Grrrr

would be awesome to know if sunshine would be coming within a week or two that way I could save money on shipping. I wouldn't leak any news if this was the case if the Almighty powers read this... Seriously though, pm me saying ship or don't ship. Lol
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Hmm.. Now I'm not sure whether the Unlocked version running on Verizon was the exciting news, or if I should be excited about something else coming up soon as well..... :| :confused: :D
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brianp48093:
+1 here! Mine is paid for and all packaged up ready to be dropped off to the post office on the morning lol
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Andyw2100:
I'm guessing the exciting news was the release of the information on how to get the unlocked version running on Verizon. (I could be mistaken, of course.)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Evocm7:
Yep me too. already back on my (what seems like after using the 10 since Thursday) dinosaur m8. I'd love to save the shipping and the week without my new phone [emoji16]

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Well damn, now that you mention that.....
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Not that that wasn't a great exciting thing, just not what I was expecting (especially since as much as I'd love to, I couldn't get ahold of an unlocked 10 if I wanted to.. Verizon it is :roll eyes: ) Hopefully they have more good news in the near future, but definitely not rushing since they're clearly way beyond my experience and could do more than I'd be able to do in a lifetime haha :laugh:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Sorry dudes lol
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
SunShine supports all verizon HTC 10s on firmwares lower than 1.90.xxx.xx right now (which is currently all of them as of this post date)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] All4TheFam:
Thank you so much [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]. We both greatly appreciate all that you and all other developers do.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
welcome
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 1droidmod:
My bad, I thought you were wanting to flash it or something I was just pointing out that the version I link to you was as safe as it gets I'm assuming if you are a S-off not S-on--> which is on requires official, original RUU or update in most cases. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] da bootloader/S-off kkking
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robbo10:
All set to run Sunshine, have adb and files ready. Seems the consensus is soff/locked bootloader is preferred since it acts as unlocked and am able to flash radios in the future correct? I'm on Verizon. And thanks for this valuable tool!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Dude you need to chill out. You can chose whatever method you want this is a free country and you know what opinions are like everyone has one... My posts were about the Xtc2clip which apparently you have no clue about because you seem to make this all about something that it was not. You can worship whomever you want and praise whomever you want as it is a free country, just direct your hostility somewhere else as I dont need it or desire it. This is a free country and I can talk about the Xtc2clip without being harassed by anyone, so take your hostility elsewhere as its not welcomed here.

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On the subject of the clip, I think I see some of what your talking about as in the success section no one has even posted their success story with it working on the Htc 10, only the m7, m8 and m9. I posted on there asking if anyone had success with it working on the 10. I will make sure there are success stories before I try it when the new update comes out adding support for the verizon version. There seems to be a lot of people having issues :(
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
Unlocked s-off behaves the same as locked s-off, yes.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] All4TheFam:
No problem [MENTION=5121101]1droidmod[/MENTION] I don't think I was clear enough in my original question.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
Just a heads up, next Verizon HTC 10 update will block our temproot, and and the next few updates will substantially make temproot harder in the future (for us or any other outfits) each time.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
But we're good to upgrade if we already have s-off, right?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
I haven't (and wont be) looking at their implementation, but HTC 10 is very different than other phones, making it quite risky to do correctly. In fact, if s-off or unlock is done incorrectly in the slightest, it could randomly set itself back s-on/locked (hint this is VERY bad if you are running anything custom).
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
yes, just stay s-off
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
In essence.

If you are s-off you are good to go pretty much with anything.

The firmware, os, rom etc do not matter if you already have s-off.. S-off allows us to flash recovery in which we can gain root with anyways

So that's the key part.

Like others said stay s-off

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In essence.

If you are s-off you are good to go pretty much with anything.

The firmware, os, rom etc do not matter if you already have s-off.. S-off allows us to flash recovery in which we can gain root with anyways

So that's the key part.

Like others said stay s-off
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kend0g:
Hi guys I never stopped by after you first released sunshine with Verizon support. Just wanted to say thanks to jcase, and beaups, and whoever else is on your team. Best $25 I've ever spent. SHAME on big f'in red for locking down every phone they release. Let us unlock our phones and void the warranty/protecton plan.... douchebags. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
but with it breaking temproot as jcase said, would the new update prevent root by not preventing s-off, but preventing root after s-off?

new to this kind of root but wondering if the update will break root but not s-off?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Chainfires SuperSu(root) already works on Android Nougat.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
So as along as s-off is achieved, you can use the conventional SuperSU to achieve root regardless of systemless root for the vzw htc 10 being broken?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
How is it broken?

Either method should work.

But when/if it did break in an update, it could be addressed by Chainfire or other 3rd party root apps.

It gets updated all the time.

Not sure I understand.

S-off will remain s-off until you choose otherwise.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
jcase was saying that the verizon firmware updates break temproot. Does that mean that root wouldn't be possible even by flashing SuperSU?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Temp root is what Sunshine uses to gain enough access to s-off and unlock the aboot. Without their temp root, none of that is possible. After s-off and unlocked, you use an app like SuperSu for root. You're not using their temp root, that's merely for sunshine to do what it does, that's all.

If it doesn't work after an update on an s-on device, it remains s-on.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
so that means once s-off and unlocked we're fine to take updates to firmware provided we never need to factory reset?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
S-off=no limits, just don't oem writesecureflag 3

[emoji6]
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
S-off allows you to flash a custom recovery.

The customer recovery allows you to flash flashible zip files.

These files can make changes to the OS is not currently loaded. Bypassing many security features allowing the flash to happen.

So essentially S-OFF before you take any updates unless the update fixes a major bug I wouldn't update unless S-off'd

just like many others said here.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
you can factory reset all you want, just dont go s-on
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kend0g:
I seen you said sunshine works if you took the update. My stepdad Wil be happy he played with my phone for a lil and was mad he took the update. Anyway he said "Thank you"

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Sorry I miss read your post guess he's out of luck for now
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
We haven't gotten the update he was referencing yet.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobi125:
Edit: Found this post explaining what to do next after getting S-Off: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68405719&postcount=951

May want to have the original post updated with this info.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1ral:
Dumb question:

To gain s-off I just run the Sunshine app in the link posted, let it do it's thing and I'm set to go? *and doing the usual SU etc*

This is the longest I've ever been with a non-rooted phone...

If this is just a download and run the app.... awesome!!

Edit:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sjpritch25:
Just don't update to the latest software update. After sunshine, just flash twrp, supersu
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Adabow12:
I am on 1.82 am I still good to use sunshine? I read that anything under 1.90 was still good just wanted to verify before going for it. Thanks
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
You are good to go. :cool:

Sunshine will work on 1.90x just not temp root = we will be stuck as others can use htcdev to unlock then Sunshine. So we need to get S-OFF while on 1.82x :good!:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
1.82 is the latest for Verizon. I believe..

1.19 is what was replaced
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
So is 1.82 the LTE-A update, or is there one coming in the (supposedly near) future?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Phone is already capable.

Your local Verizon network infrastructure needs to be updated to utilize it, not your phone....

http://betanews.com/2016/08/29/verizon-lte-advanced/
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ganuke2kx:
Recomendation

Hopefully it is ok that I post what I have to ask in this thread...... as it is largely root related. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 that recently went bad on me. So I am now in the market for a new smartphone. My last 2 smartphones I had rooted and would like that to be the case with a new one I purchase.

After researching I am liking most overall the HTC flagship smartphone. I had thought of getting the HTC One m9 to save some money....... But after further reading I think I may just go for the latest HTC 10. My existing plan that I intend to keep is with PagePlus ( which uses the Verizon Network ) and I must have a Verizon branded smartphone for PagePlus.

With that background comes my primary question(s). Reading through this thread it appears as though I will need a HTC 10 with firmware version no greater than 1.82 in order for Sunshine to work and to ultimately root the phone and have TWRP custom recovery on it...... Correct ?

So at this point in time where can I purchase a New Verizon branded HTC 10 that will have no greater than firmware version 1.82 on it so that I can successfully utilize Sunshine, gain root, and have TWRP custom recovery on it ?

I will be purchasing a new phone in full without contract ( and then buy a PagePlus sim card to activate it. ) I have considered looking at Ebay or Amazon as purchase options...... As well as purchasing direct from Verizon or HTC. But purchasing new from Verizon or HTC has me concerned they will now send me one with 1.9x firmware on it that would Not allow me to use Sunshine.

Purchasing recommendations will be Very Much appreciated. Thank you in advance for replies of assistance.

Ganuke
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Only 1.82 or earlier Verizon HTC 10's exist in production at this point so you are safe to buy and root one.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ganuke2kx:
Ok...... Thanks for the prompt reply. So I will be Firmware sunshine safe from any merchant on a new HTC 10. Sorry to press you further...... But any particular merchant recommendation ? I would assume to assure new verizon branded HTC 10 without contract might be best then to purchase from HTC directly...... Rather than look to places like Ebay or Amazon ? Any other merchant recommendation ?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
I have no recommendation of one over another. Whatever suits you best.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Somewhat OT question, what should the kernel version show if I'm 100% stock? I flashed the RUU, not sure if that reflashes stock kernel or not?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Ruu does include kernel.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Alright, thanks! Trying to figure out why systemless Xposed isn't working.. :/
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Properly rooted and flashed the correct xposed framework along with the material installer app right?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Rooted using phh systemless root (magisk) then downloaded the material installer app, went to systemless tab and hit install. Boots fine but at the end where lock screen should be it's just black screen :/
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
Phh has issues on the 10. Flash supersu like the rest of the world.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Hmm alright. Phh was recommended as it's more functional with systemless, according to the thread. Can SuperSU be flashed over top phh or uninstall and flash?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
Not sure on your last question. Phh can't seem to write to /system on the 10. SuperSU builds from the last year or so are systemless also.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Ah, didn't know that! Thanks :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] derik123derik123:
Hey all.

I'm on Verizon with 1.82 however when I use sunshine it fails the tempt root.

Any ideas as to why?

Do I need to use HTC dev first then use sunshine to get soff?

Thanks
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
Verizon phone doesn't work with HTC dev
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] derik123derik123:
Then what do I do if sure shine is failing the temp root?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Did you enable debugging?

On your phone, go to*Settings > About > Software information > More*and tap*Build number*about 7 times until it notifies you that you've gained developer privileges.

Go to*Settings > Developer options*and check*USB debugging

Try SunShine again...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] derik123derik123:
Ah, I thought I had USB debugging already checked. My bad. Is it possible to just have temp root? Or do I have to purchase it to gain root
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Temp root is useless...

It's only purpose is to allow Sunshine to s-off the device and does not persist reboots or allow any permanent system changes.

Just pay the price, if you want an unshackled device.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ganuke2kx:
Followup

A few days ago I made a post in this thread about the HTC 10 and if purchasing a new one now would have no higher than the 1.82 firmware needed to utilize Sunshine. Dottat replied stating that no HTC 10 smartphone is yet being sold new with firmware greater than 1.82 so I would be safe to purchase from anywhere I chose.

Since those posts a few days ago I did make a purchase of a HTC 10 direct from HTC...... As well as a case and tg screen protection for it from Amazon. Hopefully all will be here later this week.

But that leads me to another question. As I explained in my first post in this thread the other day...... I intend to use my existing plan service with PagePlus ( that use the Verizon Network ) on my new HTC 10. I purchased a 4G nano sim from PagePlus that will also hopefully arrive this week.

My question...... Is there a best order to follow with using Sunshine, rooting, and installing TWRP recovery in conjunction with activating the HTC 10 on PagePlus with my existing plan and number ? What I mean is...... Should I use Sunshine, root, and flash TWRP recovery Before or after I call PagePlus to have the HTC 10 activated ? ( or does it not matter ? )

My concern is doing things in the wrong order and messing things up...... Such as using Sunshine, rooting, and flashing TWRP first as soon as my HTC 10 arrives and then not being able to activate it on PagePlus...... Or conversely activate my HTC 10 on PagePlus first as soon as it arrives and then having the Sunshine, rooting, and TWRP recovery flash not work after PagePlus activation.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
It really doesn't matter when you root. I had mine rooted within the first hour when I got home from Verizon. Just do it in the order you said, Sunshine, TWRP and then root. You will be totally fine if you do all that before activating on PagePlus.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
It does not matter, but I think it makes sense to activate the phone first, make sure everything is working and only then pay $25 for SunShine. If you have to replace the phone, you will have to pay for SunShine again.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] derik123derik123:
Great thanks for the input. I'll end up buying it.

However I just wanted to confirm. Does this wipe your data?

So essentially I use sunshine. Get the appropriate twrp image then flash root binaries and I should be good right?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
If you go from S-On / Locked to S-Off / Locked, you don't need to wipe your data partition. Yes, 1) run SunShine, 2) flash TWRP via fastboot, 3) flash SuperSU or custom ROM in TWRP.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
This is a very good idea. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
Getting an update coming in now. I'm already s-off, rooted. Am I clear to take the update? Also, do I just tap install or is there a process?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M3thodbombz:
Can someone explain to me the process? 1)Unlock bootloader. 2) Sunshine. 3) Root 4) Flash TWRP?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Cannot unlock bootloader. Skip step one. Reverse steps 4 and 3