yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] juiceppc:
This appears to have helped. Great file. So why was is so slow to begin with?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RPG0:
I have a feeleing(it's just my feeling = educated guess) it was rendering everything above the current position as well, so render time was exponentially bigger. probably a bug.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] screwhead:
I can't find the webview.dll in the windows folder. I turned on "show system files". Any help? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] doug0365:
I was having problems copy the file using resco explorer but if you use the default file explore it copys fine. Also great find!! it makes PIE much better to use now it doesnt lag/slow my tilt like it did before
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] crawltochina:
But i think it is still not as good as it was before under WM5. If you had a good data connection in WM5 the PIE was VERY fast. PIE in WM6 ist still somehow laggy...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
check the hermes registry under registry tweaks for ways to handle the page behavior of PIE. The one I like the best is the one that adds the keymaps key and two translations to give page up/down for left/right 4-way & field next/prev for up/down 4-way.

Changing the 4-way nav registry value also causes the initial view to skew on the email app.

edit: the webview dll doesn't appear to be fixing the freeze issue for me :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeIII:
it seems that on the ATT Tilt even programs like resco explorer seems to scroll down one line at a time when you use the up or down arrows like PIE but you can scroll fine when you move the scroll bars...can this be a ROM related issue not just PIE...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CorruptedSanity:
Will it work on a stock TyTN ii? Straight out the box, no ATTno nothing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lokmeup:
This is a simple CAB that puts the webview.dll in the windows folder... This is the easy way to see if this .dll fixes your problem..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
Sleuth,

Did you move the PIE cache to Storage Card?

If yes, then thats the problem.

It is a known issue with Kaiser.

Move it back to the ROM, the freeze will be gone :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
I cant copy the original file either using the default File Explorer.

In fact, my File Explorer is now spinning and spinning forever in the Windows folder :(

Soft-reset did not help.

Update: Finally, got it viewed but cant find that webview.dll. I set "Show All Files" already. It cannot be found using ActiveSync via Windows Explorer either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
nope... all PIE files including cache are still in their default locations under \windows. With all this storage memory the only thing I'm moving to my Storage Card is email attachments.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Run the cab file posted above.

AND way hey I can confirm that after much messing around with moving and copying files and not getting very far the above posted CAB file has worked a treat.

I can now scroll pretty nicely.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] srmz:
You mean we just have to place the cab file on the root directory of the Kaiser and then run it and then it will automatically replace the original webview.dll file with the modified file. Just want to know if my understanding is correct.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] michi123:
A word of caution: installed the webview.dll, was then unable to sync, getting an error about webview.dll (choose yes/no with no text) followed by a device hangup. It might have happened when syncing the PIE favorites.

Soft-reset cured the problem, but reappeared on the next sync -> Hard Reset (backup was just 10hours old, so far restore seems to be OK).

That´s on a TyTN II with the original German ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Interesting, did you use the cab file?

I am not getting any error, and favourites are syncing fine.

HTC unbranded TyTn II

Can others please report their findings on this, including detail on whether they used the cab or swapped out the files manually.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
I've come to the conclusion that the version of PIE that ships with the TyTN II ROM is an unmitigated POS. My specific problem is that, not only does this version not format well, but it also completely locks up while rendering. The same page that takes 25 seconds to load on my TyTN takes 65 seconds on my Tilt :eek:

Looks like one of my first Kaiser todo's will be a cooked ROM with a properly reverted version of PIE.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chaps:
On my vario iii, replaced webview.dll using resco file explorer and pie now scrolls much better after a page has finished downloading. Still sluggish while downloading though. No issues with sync, on Vista.

Thanks to the original poster! Pie is now usable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
Found my @@%#@!!% problem: It was the damn hidden proxy (I remembered that I had let extrom run after flashing the HTC rom). Load times are just about back to normal now that I've run the proxy disable cab. The difference between my Tilt and my TyTN appears to be that the newer version of PIE on the Tilt is picking up more page information (for example: the ads on the top of XDA-Forum pages).

Unfortunately, these same ads force the new version of PIE to use horizontal as well as vertical scrollbars for XDA forum display. This negates the effectiveness of the custom page scrolling feature reghack documented in the Hermes WiKi (KeyMaps registry key technique) since this patch will only permit vertical scrolling once the page is at the far edge of a horizontal scroll.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
Also, now that my proxy issue is solved I can see the scroll delay issue and the older webview.dll resolves it.

Hopefully I didn't add too much confusion to this thread :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerII:
Thanks , I have added the link to your post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Not at all Sleuth and thanks to Chaps for feedback. So, so far 3 or 4 folk have found this works successfully and 1 for whom it messed things up badly with Acive Sync. I just wonder whether that person has managed to download a corrupted version of the webview file??? I cannot see that his ASync error would have anything to do with the German ROM he's using - but I could be wrong (frequently am!!)

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kavi:
Thanks for the great find. Finally can get back to using PIE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] crawltochina:
Somehow my fonts are messed up. I'm not sure whether the fix caused this but I realized it right a little bit later after replacing the webview.dll.

Anyone knows how I can get my original (bigger and nicer) font again? This font is shown in a number of applications.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swamp2:
No fix here

Does not seem to fix things on my AT&T device/ROM. Just to be clear while loading a long page scrolling using the RHS arrows or slider is either laggy or does not work at all. This is supposed to fix it. I over wrote the file but my scrolling is still very poor and a real PITA.

Can someone post the standard file from an AT&T device+AT&T ROM? I thought I could get the old file back with Resco but it is part of the ROM so not backed up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] duttythroy:
flawlessy working

cheers mate I'm using helmi_c big storage rom and the scroll fix it fully. good work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jim_R:
I looked and couldn't find webview.dll in /Windows on my TILT. I did a search and no match in any directory. Otherwise, I'd be happy to upload it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] energie:
i replaced the file and i had to hard reset.

everytime i use the gprs, sms etc the phone completly freeze.

had to hard reset and restore a backup -_-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
I think folk are having problems in finding and replacing the file and it's causing other files to be displaced/deleted. The correct file should not impact on things like SMS / GPRS etc.

If anyone is attempting this then I suggest using the CAB file. Depending on what app you use to find the file it may not even show up - so CAB is best - it'll do the finding and replacing for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1593807&postcount=33

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scouser_75:
Right, using Resco Explorer I found Webview. However, Explorer does not tell you exactly where the bloomin' thing is located.

If I were to install the link with the CAB file would this "automatically" do the search and overwrite for me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
YES it will (This I think is where things are going wrong for folk so the CAB is easier)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1593807&postcount=33

Given there are a couple of reports of problems (not by me) - safest to do a backup first though until we have a fuller picture.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scouser_75:
Thanks Mike. I'll try that out tonight.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sleuth255:
hmmm.... sounds like my issue. Your problem might be the hidden proxy which I found actually caused PIE to freeze up while rendering pages. Try this, download and install removeHiddenProxy4CWS_0522.cab from post 3 of this thread and see if it doesn't help. If you don't see a change, or things get slower, I'd like to hear this too. You can restore the hidden proxy by installing restoreHiddenProxy4CWS_0522.cab which is located on the same post.

@all: webviewdll.zip is a hidden, ROM file in /windows on your Kaiser. You need something other than the built in filemanager to work with it and that utility (I use greensoftware's excellent free utility gsfinder+) must be set to show hidden files and ROM files.

The built in filemanager as well as activesync explorer also cannot copy files over ROM files. You need a third party filemanager to do this as well. I always copy files to the /temp directory from my PC then use gsfinder+ to copy from temp to /windows.

This is why applying webviewdll.zip using the attached cab file is such a good option for those of you who just don't want to muck around with system files or third party file managers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jim_R:
Found the file on my TILT with Total Commander, but can't change attributes or copy it. I can tell you that it's 1044864 bytes, and was created on 08/01/07 at 5:55:54
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
Same for me but using Resco explorer. Will try the cab mentioned above later.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] crawltochina:
Was the same for me, you cannot copy it. Just put the new webview.dll in the windows folder with resco you can overwrite the old one. that's also what the cab file does
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BoostedSR20:
Just came across this while browsing the forum with my phone. Downloaded/installed via the .cab and reset. So far no laggy scrolling anymore. Awesome. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swamp2:
Not so much fun experimenting...

Installed remove... soft reset and now PIE will not load any pages. Was there any other setting to change in combination with this? This is the single change I tried. Reinstalled with restore..., soft reset and now I am hosed. No pages load with Opera nor PIE on 3G. WLAN brings web pages just fine. Then simply switching back to 3G works again. Strange.

Tried the whole process again and PIE worked under 3G after installing remove... and soft reset. It did not help the temporary freezes not poor scolling behavior during page loading. Any advice whether to leave it in the current removed state or not?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Brickcity:
Thank you!!!! Thank you!!!!! Thank you!!!

Checking Movie6.net was a pain in the butt on my Tilt.......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] scouser_75:
Thanks Mike for the info. The CAB file worked a treat :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jim_R:
Hmm... looks like it works for some but not all. Also looks like there can be problems reverting to the old version. Maybe it'd be a good idea to do a backup right before running the cab, and then a restore rather than an uninstall should the new webview.dll not fix slow scrolling?

*edit - installed on my TILT using the cab, and the updated webview.dll works great. Huge improvement.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grizzley:
Worked fine for me, using stock ATT ROM. PIE no longer freezes up.

I used Resco and moved it to WINDOWS. A warning poped up, I clicked to everwrite the exisitng file and rebooted. FIXED.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Gator5000e:
Just installed the cab. Works great. Now have smoother scrolling. Thanks for posting this fix.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeIII:
this seems to have worked for me as well...installed the scroll fix cab then installed the remove hidden proxy cab and all is well...cheers...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kms108:
I just connected the phone to PC with active sync, and copy it over to the windows folder, it ask if i want to overwrite the existing one, so I did, no reset is need and works with great improvement.

thanks

kms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] juiceppc:
After a few days use I will report this has helped. But not so much as to be cheering for PIE. PIE needs an update. Badly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] texaspinyatinyata:
Opera

Had the same problem with Opera Mobile. The cab fixed the scrolling there. For some reason though, Internet Explorer can't cannect to any pages. Wasn't the cab though as it didn't work before I installed the cab file either. Any idea what I should look for to get IE working as well?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kms108:
most ppl who has installed the webview.dll, by copying it direct to the folder has had much more success rate, just like me.

just a question for ppl who has installed it using the cab, after install, did you uninstall the loader through the add/remove, or did you just leave it alone, I think that some ppl remove it, which also removes the dll file, making the pie not usable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] johanromijn:
I replaced the file on my Kaiser, but now IE doesn't load anymore.

Anyone who can supply the original DLL, or another fix?

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] johanromijn:
Fixed it. I tried to overwrite the default DLL. But I think that didn't work well.

Now I've first deleted the original DLL, and then run the CAB file posted here.

Scrolling is definitely better now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sane:
Much better....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sane:
I started to experience major problems also after overwriting the webview.dll file. Now PIE won’t load any pages; loading seems to stop always to 1kb left. I tried also to load the .cab, but it doesn’t seem to have fixed the problem.

FIXED. I had the PIE cache relocated to the storage card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tiermann:
What device and rom version was this dll from originally?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] playdeep:
I am on the 6700 apache on Verizon using PIE Plus. Anyone in here try this cab install that is not on at&t? what about the remove proxy?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
FYI...

For all of you with custom roms or changing the PIE settings:

EnableHiddenProxy.cab - You must run this to connect to the MediaNet service.

DisableHiddenProxy.cab - You must run this to disable the MediaNet proxy if you want to connect to the internet via activesync & your desktop computer.

Also, to enable the Cingular Video & other AT&T/Cingular sites, you PIE identification registry settings must be as follows:

HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent

Find Key Named: CustomBase & change the String value to:

HTC-8900/1.2/ Mozilla/4.0
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] playdeep:
This definately worked for me on Verizon with my Apache. Thanks. i know see how slow it was getting on large pages because this moves so much faster.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] testdebug:
cannot back

i just realized my PIE cannot back. when you back during surf net. The PIE freeze and cannot be close or it will exit itself. Can anybody confirm is it this webview.dll thing or other software conflicts? If yes, can anybody upload the original webview.dll? Actually Opera8.5 work well. Is just that all this bug really bugging me. Make me keep on asking the question, which component went wrong again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerII:
I dont think its the replaced webview thats causing your problem.

Back function works fine for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] testdebug:
do you think that it is multiIE problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] samcham:
lokmeup...

Thanks for the CAB. It seems to be working fine on my 8525 w/ stock AT&T WM6 ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] id5:
Does the job forme

Works for me but I still get various PIE freezes at different times, but a big step in the right direction! Many Thanks!:)

Runing vanilla Orange branded:

Op Version: 24.181.1.612

ROM Version: 1.81.61.2

Radio Version: 1.27.12.29

Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] glay78:
My X800 hanged after I tried this tweak. I couldn't run IE anymore. It will hang after I run it. Can anyone help by posting or sending me the original webview.dll? I'm on FW402 English Rom. Thanks a million. Please send the file to glay78@myrealbox.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kms108:
i had this problem, i then installed the spb pocket plus and boot the system insafe mode to install the webview.dll.

works well now.

kms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
I approached this fix with a little trepidation, as there are one or two posters who have reported problems.

For the record though, I have a Vario III, standard ROM, I put the .cab file into windows, opened it up, reset when prompted and now I can scroll a lot more smoothly- problem solved!

No problems syncing up again either.

Thanks to everyone that contributed to this fix, it's a pity HTC aren't so dedicated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sahoopes:
Excellent Fix!

I was worried as well after reports of problems with PIE but the cab worked as advertised. Thank you, gentlemen, for this wonderful fix.:D

I use an unbranded HTC TYTNII with stock ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alc630:
This is a really nice "fix". It really speed things up.

I had to replace DLL with Resco Explorer. Uninstall PIEplus. Use the CAB, then it worked. At first I ran into problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] oscarsalgar:
Well, I used the cab and it worked for small pages but every time I try to load youtube, PIE freezes (and it also freezes the start menu). I also tried removing the hidden proxy, but it doesn't work yet. What bothers me the most is that I can't use flashbundle to watch youtube videos, so I'm gonna have to keep using the very slow vtap...

BTW, opera mini rocks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] oscarsalgar:
Still freezes and won't load pages

Installed the .cab. Didn't work. Then I removed the hidden proxy and PIE wasn't loading any pages at all. So, I restored the hidden proxy... does not work yet. I have not installed a storage card, so that's certainly not the issue.

¿Anyone have any ideas? I'm not a big fan of PIE, but I would like it to be functional.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] guest3:
Try moving the cache onto the main memory of the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ~~Tito~~:
Cool fix. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Prufrock:
Cab worked fine on my Vario III. TCPMP working properly with youtube and scroll sorted out. Before doing this, pie would freeze up my phone whilst loading and take absolutely ages to do anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dgattenb:
HTC Touch UK

Cant copy it into the windows folder .. access denied.. do you want to over write ??.... ... cant do it .. Read only
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerII:
Use the latest version of resco explorer.

Or install the .cab file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kenny8088:
omg... i installed the cab file. but my PIE froze when I open it. then i tried kms108's method whereby i installed spb pocket plus and boot the system insafe mode to install the webview.dll file.

but when i load the pages in PIE, i got an error "the page you are looking for cannot be found due to unknow error 0x80072f78"

hope some kind souls could help here...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] an123:
HOW TO IMPROVE SCROLLING SPEED...

one simple solution is to turn off the clicking sounds...it sped up my scrolling by a HUGE margin. Maybe the tic-tic sound of scrolling slows things dowm, probably because it is timed in such a way that the 'click' sound is generated before the screen scrolls down based on that 'click'...who knows...but it definitely worked for me! so u can try that out too...

changing the scrolling sound -> i used advanced config editor (schaps), under the section -> TOUCHFLO SOUNDS->DISABLE SCROLLING SOUND

lemme know if it worked
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MARIANOTE:
This Work In Htc Touch Xl-elfin???

somebody use this solution in these device?

IE Slow Scroll Fix.......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rainersnookh:
Works pretty well on Touch Dual too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] brooksthepro:
this fix worked perfectly for me. THANK YOUUU

Info: i have an 8525
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Willie3white:
Works great on At&t tile scrolling is much quicker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TexasPenguin:
Copying the DLL file from the OP fixed the scrolling problem in PIE - GREAT find.

And, even better, it also fixed another annoying problem I have:

Previously, if I received an HTML e-mail - for example I get the Daily Dilbert cartoon - the graphics were unreadable. Clicking the "Scroll right" link widened the page as expected but did nothing to expand the graphics so the cartoon could not be viewed.

Now, with this new file, everything works correctly - the graphics expand coorectly to be prefect quality and a decent size.

I had thought that graphics quality should be a simple setting as in Opera Mobile but couldn'f find it.

Anyway, all fixed now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tk123456789:
Hello, I also am having the problem of slow scrolling or lagging while using IE. I just want to make sure that I put the .cab file in the right place. After I sync the phone with activesync to my PC, do I just drag the .cab file to the folder that opens up when I press explore windows device? Or is there another folder where it goes. Once it is there do I need to click and run it?

I read all the posts but it still isn't too clear for me.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
Installed the cabfile but I dont think it has changed a lot. When scrolling with for example windows explorer its still laggy when scrolling fast to bottom item. Maybe a little improvement but this doesent solve the real problem imo. or I did something wrong!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Well the slow scrolling fix applies to PIE (Internet Explorer) only - no other scrolling is changed by the cab file. So, you should notice a marked difference in PIE, that can virtually grind to a halt without the fix.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wim26:
I see. I tried IE and doesnt scroll ok. Still laggy. Maybe not as much as it did before, But i cant see the difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] compact_bijou:
Installed Lokmeup IE Slow Scroll Fix .cab with cab installer.

It works, very happy with the difference.