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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
They don't mention how they got it unlocked prior to putting TWRP and SuperSU onto it. In the past, that's been an early necessary step.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TJFadness:
I'm looking in to doing this soon, but a line on the website is unclear to me. It says "Directions, including how to ship your phone to us, are mailed out upon payment" - does that mean the shipping charges includes shipping from me? I'm not sure why they would mail anything to me instead of just emailing it to me if that wasn't the case, but I was under the impression that the included shipping was just the return shipping.

And I'm sorry if this is made clear elsewhere, I've been keeping an eye on this thread since it started, but I haven't seen this question answered and a cursory search didn't help. With that knowledge I should be doing this in the next week, regardless of whether or not it includes both ways shipping - it's just something I would like to know now for budgeting purposes. Any help is appreciated.

edit: I don't see any way to delete, but I found the answer earlier in the thread. It's return shipping only. Not sure what the mailing is about, maybe it's supposed to say email?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
You mail it in on your dime, then they mail it back in the price point. Exceptions can be made if you pay for a unique method of return. I used my shipping account at work to pay next day both ways, then i just paid the 25.

Just as an FYI, USPS next day air both ways is about 45, if it a necessity
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
This won't work because on verizon our bootloader is locked, until unlocked by [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION].
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
It is by email, I have clarified it on the website. Once purchased you should get an email with full directions.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TJFadness:
Forgot to mention, bought the package and mailed it out! Should show up on tomorrow (Thursday). Thanks everyone for the advice and clarifications. It's been years since I could do anything with my device (my last being a VZW Moto X 2013) and I'm looking forward to the freedom!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sjpritch25:
With all the mods available it makes the phone so much better. Battery life will be considerably better.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 4rsenal:
Will be sending in my 10 in the coming days... I know this has been asked and discussed many times but my HTC that has the update (running 1.19.605.22) is good I'm good to send it out? Just confirming that I don't have to mess with the whole ruu thing and revert back to last update.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorm:
You are good, plus you can't downgrade unless the phone is sOff anyways
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Shipped mine out today supposed to arrive on Monday! Man I can't wait, had this sucker for about a month now and just had to wait for the extra money to spend. Thanks to JCase and everyone involved, love the HTC community and the loyalty with our HTC dev's.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TJFadness:
Phone just got back in perfect condition, hacked and everything! Six days both ways including a weekend, highly recommended.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Shipped mine out Friday, it arrived to jcase on Monday and was already on it's way back the same day. Can't ask for much more than that! I expect to have it back tomorrow. Getting excited :D
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sjpritch25:
Yeah, it's crazy how quick it's done & shipped back.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
Odd request, seems the verizon RUU and conversion threads have been closed links removed

Can someone put them up if they have them? I'm trying to convert my personal 10 to verizon
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] MajikUF:
This not it?

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/guide-convert-unlocked-to-verizon-t3380615
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
ah thanks, the thread i found had the ruu links removed
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
My afh is still there. Surprised you don't have it bookmarked.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
lol i should instead of asking you every week
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pettigrew95:
My 10 has been delivered to the mighty jcase, whew!!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
My phone will be back in my possession today! I jumped the gun when I saw the tracking say "label created" it doesn't mean it was shipped lol. I think jcase gets the label created with priority 2 day shipping and insurance just to ensure we know. But I sent it out last Friday with priority 2 day shipping and getting it back today. I expected about a week. May have been 6 days if it wasn't for the weekend. Either way it is a wonderful thing to be a part of a community with people like jcase who we can trust. Us Verizon users would be screwed without him. Without jcase I would either have to ditch Verizon or HTC and go with a Nexus. I hope more people from Verizon can find a way to get their HTC 10 to him. I hope we can have a bigger and better XDA Verizon forum than we did with the M9. I really wish Verizon would just leave us the hell alone and let us own our phones. I will probably be switching carriers next year just because of this. They really pissed me off when they took our FM radio's out of our M9's. Anyway, thanks jcase I already knew I could count on you buddy that is the reason I bought the HTC 10. Anyone got any advice on what ROM and mod's I should flash first thing? I need to catch up Lol. I haven't been on the regular HTC One M9 threads much cause most of the ROM's and kernels wouldn't work well with Verizon M9's so we were very limited. I think it will be much better with the 10.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Derepinar:
Verizon last firmvare What is the number.?

Download link please. Thanks.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hgoldner:
1.19.605.22. Look 5 posts above yours for a link.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
They do an amazing job, Beaups received the device and had it sent back to me same day. I sent it out on 5/24 (Tuesday) and received it back Saturday of that week.

M9 threads were so weak as many felt (and I actually wish I did the same and saved my money) that the M9 just wasn't enough of an upgrade from the M8.. and truly it wasn't. I used the M8 up until the hTC 10 while the M9 sat in the closet, so happy I was able to sell it and only lost about $50 after all was said and done and I had it for a year and a few months.

The VZW 10 threads will most likely be pretty slim as well ROM wise as Viper, LeeDriod, or ICE ROM are pretty much the big dogs and they all have great Verizon support.

And for kernel Buck/Brys Elite kernel is working great for me, and I also ran flar2's ElementalX kernel which is also very nice.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Just to clarify, to send a VZW HTC 10 to JCASE to root and unlock bootloader, would I want to send it to him as soon as it arrives from VZW, BEFORE I would activate it? That way I could continue to use my current phone until it comes back from JCASE. Then activate with VZW after it comes back. Is this correct?

Or is it better to activate and use the HTC 10 for awhile to make sure it is OK, then send it for the conversion? But then what do I do for a phone? Could I use the HTC 10 nanoSIM card in a microSIM adapter in my Galaxy S5 while the HTC 10 is gone? Or does he need the SIM card in it to work on it?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
No sim needed, unactivated is fine. Details are on our website.

--beaups
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NickWord:
How close are we to an online tool? Even selling a guide would be amazing, need my phone for communication and some work cant be out of one for a few days. Any update is amazingly aopreciated.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
If they knew, they'd let us know. Asking is useless and shows disrespect to the developers.

..Selling a guide..?

We all need our phones..

Let's just be appreciative of the service they offer VZW users, and so quickly - this is what's amazing. :good:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorm:
Oh wow. Overnighted my phone to Streamline Mobile Solutions aka jcase , yesterday (thanks to my boss for letting me use our corporate account).

Phone was received at 1:30 PST today and already being shipped back at 3:30 PST.

Now that's what I call service. Best money ever spent. :svetius:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Spinkness:
It's not disrespectful. It's just a question. I'm in the same boat where money isn't the problem. I simply can't be without my phone, the Sim won't fit in the old phone I have, and I'm not gonna buy a temp phone just to root. There are many people on here that are more than capable of following instructions in terminal or whatever else it would take. I respect the devs, and know how much work goes into this. But if the reason is that Verizon will patch it as soon as the devs tell us how to do it, then what is to stop Verizon from decompiling the sunshine app and achieving the same thing? The fact is, the method exists, they have found it. And somehow I have never waited so long for a root method to be released for any phone. And if the problem is that adding support for our phone makes the app unstable for other devices currently supported by sunshine. Can it not be compiled into a separate app solely for the HTC 10? So again, I don't think it's disrespectful at all to ask how close we are. We are all anxious. And it makes it even harder that hardly any details have been given as to why. That is all.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
It is disrespectful.

You are clearly misinformed. The exploit isn't safe for a public release.

And it works on other variants as the root from htcdev.com to unlock bootloader which Verizon blocks, so no they can't decompile Sunshine and patch anything to do with Verizon hTC 10 at this point.

I don't care how long you have to wait, the Vzw M9 was a year before Sunshine App support, so keep that in mind.

That or make your own exploit.

Peace..
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Spinkness:
And how exactly is it disrespectful to ask the progress on something? Or should those of us who can't send our phones away just sit here and sing the praises of the devs? Explain, instead of just saying over and over that it's disrespectful. That doesn't help anything.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
I don't need to explain anything.

What you can do is patiently wait for the App support or figure out a way to ship. Thats a suggestion. Take it how you will. :cool:

If you don't like my posts.. report them.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Spinkness:
Asking if there's any more progress on it is showing support. And showing support in most cultures would be considered a compliment. So why don't YOU make the exploit, and then you can say if I'm disrespecting you. I have had htc since my first android, and rooted every single one. And because of that I have an incredible respect for beaups and jcase. I don't know you though, so I don't care about your opinion. I will however defend others on here who get harassed for asking a simple question.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
I'm not here to fight.

It's always been (in my experience) common XDA etiquette - to not ask for an update to a project, ROM, MOD, theme, etc..

And why would you say for me to make an exploit?.. My VZW 10 I sent out for their services.

Who are these others? -- I only responded to your post.

Anyway, I gave my opinion and you gave yours.. we disagree -- it happens. :cool:

If you feel I "harassed" you, please report it -- but that was never an intent. :good:

I'm done responding, though.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pettigrew95:
Just want to add my 2 cents and say jcase is the man! He sent it out the same day he received it and I got it in the mail 2 days later (coast to coast WA to NJ)! Thanks jcase!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
Giving a shout out to andybones: his CleanRoms and good troubleshooting advice have kept 4 generations of HTC phones going for me!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
Thank you my friend.

Apparently being a member since May 2010, nor my 12,470 posts, 12,676 thanks or being a Recognized Contributor AND Recognized Developer just isn't enough. Ahh well, you can't please them all.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
To everyone WHO keeps asking for updates.

He will keep it private for several reasons. The big one.... Hmm let me think.

ROOT exploit? Do you want the MFG to have it. Do you want it patched. For everyone asking you when it will be released are saying YES you want it patched.

You are saying YOU WANT IT CLOSED.

You are saying YOU WANT to NOT ROOT ever again.

Plenty of you are newbs apparently.

In the modding community it is normal to release an exploit after it is identified an update will not patch it. This way they can get bug fixes etc in a version that can be rooted just fine.

SO Please think about what you are asking to be released. Sometimes there is more to it then just a GUIDE, or a program, or a script.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
We've made several statements on this, but I will do it again.

1.) If we were able to RELIABLY AND SECURELY package it into sunshine (or even a separate APK/guide/script/etc) we would have done that already. Frankly, we don't like physically hacking users' phones and driving to the post office, etc.

2.) People will know if/when progress has been made on a software-releasable solution if/when that software is released.

--beaups
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
[MENTION=2821506]Spinkness[/MENTION]

Read above.

Enough. Said.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
It is indeed disrespectful. The devs work as hard as they can to make sure everything is safe. And no, sunshine can't be decompiled. It's one of the most heavily obfuscated apps. I'm in the exact same boat as you, money isn't a issue but I don't have a spare phone, but I'm not complaining about how long it's taking, rather, I do everything I can to help [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and his team.

Look at things in a more positive light.

Once I have some free time tonight, I will add some very clear information to the OP about why not to ask for updates.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
No. Go back and read the reasons and let it sink in. Stop assuming things.

Just stop.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
"I do everything I can to help [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and his team. "

LOL., I have no team, I am part of one.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Haha bad wording. We all do appreciate what you guys do though.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NickWord:
Sorry although new account is not new, I am technically new to the forums since I usually in the past just browse. Sorry for asking I didn't have bad intent, I may look for a cheap phone to get me through if I end up sending my phone to get rooted any recommendations?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Guys like jcase, beaups, and many others helping us root here are awesome. Anyone who doesn't think so hasn't been around XDA very long. :)

I have a theoretical question to jcase and beaups aka Streamlined Mobile Solutions. Something that will help me sleep at night if the answer is yes. :)

You see I have gone the route of buying an unlocked GSM HTC 10 and converted it to Verizon. As near as I can tell all that (as hard as it was sometimes......helped a TON to uninstall HTC Sync!) was finally successful. But......I am meeting a lot of obstacles trying to get it activated. I tried a brand new SIM card that I ordered from Verizon tech support (although the dummies sent me a microSIM when I TOLD them several times I needed a nanoSIM for an HTC 10). So I had to cut it down. It would not activate, even on the phone with a VZW tech.

So then in desperation I cut down my active microSIM from my Galaxy S5, and tried that (since it's number is where I am headed with this HTC 10) as suggested at the end of the conversion thread (to use an active SIM card). Still would not activate. I posted about it on the other thread for the conversion, but the bottom line is a very nice VZW tech on the phone is sending me "the right SIM card", citing that specific phones won't activate without their appropriate specific cards, and that is why I was able to call her with *8899 USING the HTC 10 (so the phone does work), but she said it won't activate because of the SIM I am using, and that it doesn't match the phone specs. She seemed very confident we could get it to work with the correct SIM, even though she knows its IMEI isn't on Verizon's database.

So, when my wife picks up the SIM tomorrow, that rep ordered for me through the local corp. store, and I plug it in tomorrow night........if my HTC 10 STILL won't activate........can you good folks fix my HTC if I send it to you? At this point I would happily pay any reasonable price, such as whatever you are charging for what you are doing with locked VZW phones, or more if necessary.

I have to assume that the rooted phones you are sending back to people have no problem activating. So I am hoping you guys could figure out what the issue is if that next SIM card won't cut it, because apparently others who have done this conversion on unlocked phones direct from HTC have working HTC 10 phones on Verizon now. I went over the instructions several times, and am reasonably as sure as I can be that I did all the steps correctly. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Part of your problem is your imei is not a verizon one and verizon will not add your non verizon imei to their network. I"am thinking you need to have a verizon nano sim and activate the sim on your account using a verizon phone any verizon lte phone that uses a nano sim then once activated pop that sim in your Htc 10. If that does not work pm me and I can provide you with another option you can go with but what I listed is the easiest way to go.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tybaltus Prime:
Hmm... This is an unfortunate point of view. Hope you find another way to contribute.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
My wife is picking up a nanoSIM today that a VZW phone tech specifically indicated for me in notes she attached to our account, so when my wife gets to the local corp. store on her way home today, they will know exactly which one to give her. Rather than put that new nanoSIM ditectly into my HTC 10, I'll try as you suggest. My wife's current S6 uses a nanoSIM, so I'll try it with her phone, activate it, then put it into the 10. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the advice, and offer to help further by PM if needed. I'll let you know what happens this evening when the SIM arrives.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I"am sure that if you do activate the sim in her phone that it will work just fine for you, that is the easiest way since you do have another verizon lte phone to activate that sim in. Verizon is such a royal pain in the backside, as no other carriers care what phone you use they only care that your imei number is not blacklisted but verizon has to be a pain and block any phone that they did not sell pretty much. I dont know why there was any issues as verizon allows the unlocked google nexus phones to be activated but not the unlocked htc 10's my guess is verizon didnt want to piss off google by blocking nexus phones but they have no problem blocking unlocked htc phones. Any way activate your sim in hers and you should be guaranteed good to go, where if you try to activate in your unlocked 10 most likely it wont activate and they make you get another sim card so activating the sim in her phone should save you the aggravation. It can be a pain b ut the phone is worth the extra effect. Good luck and enjoy your awesome phone.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Well, they refused to give my wife the nanoSIM card, and said it MUST be activated in my HTC 10 at the store. The rep told me over her phone that it will never work to just get the new unused SIM card and put it into the HTC 10, because the line I am intending to use it on has my Galaxy S5 on it, which uses a microSIM card. So he claims their system will not allow activation of a nano-SIM on that phone number on our account unless they do it THERE.

So, I have to head over there and HOPE the fellow is open minded enough to make this work. However, he is going to SEE the red text warning on the boot screen, about it being for development purposes only, as soon as he turns it on. And of course the IMEI will also not be in their system. So he is going to know this is an out of the ordinary phone. I don't like where this is heading, and fully expect to come home in the same predicament I am in now, with their refusal to help.

If you could please get back to me here or by PM in the next few minutes as I prepare to leave, with whatever other option you had to offer, I would appreciate it. Something is telling me I should NOT go over there. Maybe we can try a different source to get a new nanoSIM "for her S6" and then activate it and try to put it back into my HTC 10, unless you have another idea.

At the moment, enjoyment is not the word I would use to describe this experience. Regret might be a much better choice.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Plan C

OK, Plan C.....

It just seemed too suicidal to march into the lion's den with one of these converted phones. So........idea time.......

I contacted a completely different non-corporate store, and gave them reason to provide me with a nanoSIM for my wife's Galaxy S6. Took a little tap dancing, but the girl there was nice and trying to help.

SO............

I have a pristine Galaxy S6 approved nanoSIM. I'd like to try activating it in her Galaxy S6 and then try it in my HTC 10. Is there anything at all I need to know BEFORE I start this procedure? I don't need to factory reset her phone, do I?

Did not mean to hijack this thread, just getting desperate and hoped to find out if this choice of unlocked non-verizon phone would be accepted for a mail-in fix. I'll continue on in the Convert US Unlocked thread.

Thanks!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Put a already activates SIM card in and you will/should be fine.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Ok. My concern now is how to keep my wife's Galaxy S6, which I want to use to activate the new nanoSIM I got for it, still working with her nanoSIM that is in it now. If I activate my new card in her phone, then use it in the HTC, can I simply put her original card back in her phone and it will still work? Or will doing this deactivate her card? If it does, can I just reactivate her card in her phone?

Other than preserving her phone for her, I'm ready to go I think. Just don't wanna mess up her phone.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
You'll have no problem. The SIM is keyed to your phone number: that phone # will show up in S6 phone information.

Nothing on the S6 will be messed up. Once your SIM is activated in the S6 and makes and receives calls (do one each), then it is ready to put into your HTC10 and power up.

Put her SIM back into her phone and try to call your HTC10. It ought to answer right now.