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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Thanks! But how is the HTC 10 going to get programmed with my own mobile number when I do this? Won't its new sim card, activated on her S6 as you described, have HER number stored on it? The card was not previously programmed or activated by Verizon, so I thought it would get the number information from her phone? Or.....while I am activating the new card, do I get asked for MY number?? That just occurred to me. Sorry for all the questions, but I've not done this before. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
No, the SIM card you have should be for YOUR phone number. The phone number goes with and stays in the SIM. It is never "in" the phone, just the SIM card.

If you're sure that new sim is ready for your phone number, you are ready to go. If it is not already setup with your phone number, get the new SIM card and her S6 and call Verizon technical support. Tell them you need to activate this new SIM for your phone number. They will ask you the exact number in fine print on the SIM card and ask you for the phone's IMEI. Do not do a factory reset on the S6 as part of this process by the way, otherwise you will lose your wife's settings.

Once the SIM is activated in the S6, transfer it to the HTC10. It will be your phone number,
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
I feel like a simple process is being made into such a complicated problem.

You just wanna be prepated, so trust me I get it. :good:

You should be fine in the end though.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Is that not what I just listed if you had read what I posted ????
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
OK, I guess I should have let the non-corp store where I go the sim activate it for me. They offered, but I was afraid that was something I didn't yet want to do. Getting ready to call VZW CS right now.

Edit - Well I could not convince the VZW rep to let me use "either SIM card in the same phone". He insisted I can't do that. He actually changed HER phone (with her SIM card) over to MY phone number. I was able to persuade him I wanted to be using the new nanoSIM I had just bought, so he went in and re-did the change so that my number, in her S6, uses the new (which I will call "my", to avoid confusion ) nanoSIM. I called their #832 test number and used our house phone to call the S6. I shut it down and put my nanoSIM into the HTC 10, and....SUCCESS!! It is working using my number. :)

But......... I am once again seeing the repetitive shutdown of Exchange Services, Gmail, and Calendar as I had been seeing yesterday, before I did a factory reset. That had seemed to fix it. So I am doing another factory reset now.

And now for the bad news........... I put her nanoSIM back into the S6, and booted it up. I am met with the notification "ready to activate? Call 877-807-4646 from another phone. You will need your account information." So the S6 is NOT unchanged, it will need to be re-activated. Hopefully that is still the automated number because it is after 11PM now here.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
+1 brother I hear you there lol. The only way anyone should have any kind of problem would be if they are using a prepaid verizon mvno other than verizon prepaid because if they activate a phone for you and you put that sim in another phone you will only get 3g data in that phone they need to activate the actual phone you plan on using that is if you want 4g Lte data and not just 3g data. But yes for post paid or verizon prepaid activate the sim with any verizon Lte phone then pop it in your unlocked htc 10 and be done with it.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
The automated VZW activation is telling me none of our numbers are "authorized" to receive the activation code. They now have my device on My Verizon listed as a non-Verizon device, and hers is listed as some generic Verizon device without even showing its photo. I'm pretty sure the rep killed off her SIM card when he activated mine with my number on her S6.

The upside is my HTC 10 is finally working! :) THANK YOU ALL very much for the help. I have a feeling we'll need to take her S6 to a store and get a new SIM card. I read, once actually deactivated, Verizons SIMs can't be used later.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Fwiw I have reused sim cards. Ever since 4g sim cards became a thing I've been able to.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 4rsenal:
What is the average turnaround time from the moment you mail out the phone to when you get it back? I would love to be able to send out the phone this Monday and get it back by Friday (as I am going on vacation and then college so won't be in one location for more than 1 week).
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
I will be out of town from Aug 2nd to Aug 5th, I will pause pause processing orders after the 1st and resume processing orders on Aug 6th.

I typically reship the phone same day, unless it arrives after I mail out for the day. In that case, it goes out next business day. For Saturdays, I try to get them shipped that day but its 50/50 if I get them out on the weekend or wait til Monday.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Added to OP.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eriknors:
So if I've paid for the mail in service and I send it in Monday chances are you won't get the phone or even start on it until after the 6th? So should I just wait until then to send it?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Yes you should probably wait until he's back, or, check with [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] he handle it too.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eriknors:
What would be the best way to contact [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] would u know
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
Submit a support ticket
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LakesideWiseman:
Just got my HTC 10 from Verizon. I've been reading the thread all morning and 68 pages is a lot to sort through, so sorry if this was answered already but...

Do the current OTA updates break this s-off unlock? Or am I safe to take the CURRENT updates? I'm obviously not asking if future updates will break it because we obviously don't know that.

Planning on sending my phone in as soon as the service is available again on Aug 5.

---------- Post added at 12:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 PM ----------

Just got my HTC 10 from Verizon. I've been reading the thread all morning and 68 pages is a lot to sort through, so sorry if this was answered already but...

Do the current OTA updates break this s-off unlock? Or am I safe to take the CURRENT updates? I'm obviously not asking if future updates will break it because we obviously don't know that.

Planning on sending my phone in as soon as the service is available again on Aug 5.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
The first OTA is safe, however I'd send it to him first, then take the OTA.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TotallyAnxious:
I get my 10 tomorrow, I'm gonna wait till he's back to send it out. Using my phone till then and switching back to my old phone when i send it out won't cause any complications right? (And I'm aware it wipes the phone, so no need to mention that lol). And it's recommended not to take any OTA, right?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sjpritch25:
I switched back to my old phone and didn't have any issues reactivating after receiving it back. Yes phone will be wiped because of encryption. The process seems to be quick for them because my phone was shipped back out that same day.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
It's actually in this case better for him if they take it. Otherwise, he will feel obligated to help get a non-stock phone back to stock in order for them to take the OTA. Not that he's required to, but I know this from doing s-off on the m9. Everyone who pays for the s-off service will feel they are entitled to direct support from [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] for OTA support. .. .which is not fair.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] im_high_tech:
Screw all those entitled people! lol Everyone in society is entitled all of a sudden.

/EndRANT
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pete450:
I'm pretty excited - been a long time HTC user, and lurker on here, and of course always s-off my phones when available. I have had the Verizon 10 variant since it was released, and anyway, finally bit the bullet Friday and shipped mine off... jcase received it yesterday, and tracking info shows I should have it back tomorrow, can't wait! Always great to have more control over my device, easy backup abilities, tethering on the unlimted data, etc. I really appreciate all the great information, developers, and community that is here at xda. Freedom! :good: :highfive: :cowboy:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
But you have to think. Who are the ones to sue? Who are the ones to go to the media? Who are the ones to accuse him falsely of info?

These people are the ones to do it.

These are the people who do not understand.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LakesideWiseman:
I thought once s-off was achieved that we could take any OTA with s-off remaining intact? If I flash other roms i am well aware i need to go back to stock to glash ota or wait for the ruu.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
You can. But you pretty much need to flash the ruu to be 100% stock in order for it to take an ota.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LakesideWiseman:
Is there not any verizon RUUs availqble at this point?

I didn't search so i apologize but am purely curious.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
Dottat has them hosted here..

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=57754

theres also a link in my signature to the latest
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LakesideWiseman:
So i should just take the OTA just to ensure i get the latest radios and anything else that's been fixed on stock before i send it to jcase?

I'm just scared and dont wanna break **** and need some reassurance, lol.

Thanks again for all your help guys. I've been an htc user since the original incredible and rezound and definitely remember doing the funky wire trick to get s-off. XDA has been an amazing resource and community. I really cannot thank you guys enough!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
Yep that's the easiest way.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
BTW:

https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/761009182753427456
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LakesideWiseman:
Went ahead and did the OTA

.

That is exciting beaups! Let's hope that Sunshine is going to be working on HTC 10 very soon!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tybaltus Prime:
This... Well assumptions aside... This is exciting indeed
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bakemcbride21:
Excellent news heading otwards the weekend! :) You guys never cease to amaze!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] im_high_tech:
[MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] love you guys so much. *Sheds a single tear of happiness*

NO HOMO btw. Strictly XDA Love.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pete450:
Received my phone back perfectly safe, good packaging, with now s-off, twrp pre-loaded, and I've installed andybones' stock ROM and loving freedom. Thank you all again for the hard work and support here :victory:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pball52998:
I can't wait! Glad to see heading into the weekend. Something to look forward to besides classes coming up [emoji1]

Sent from my VZW HTC 10. Root soon™
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] madeiracam:
Looks like we don't need to assume!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Using Viper10 ROM here and all is well. :)

Way back before things like Towel Root and Flashfire came along, in the world of Android rooting when using TWRP was pretty much standard for rooted recovery access, there was a widget some of us used that rebooted from system into recovery with a single tap. Might have been called QuickBoot?

It's a bit tedious to power down, boot to download mode with VOL DN+PWR, then reboot to bootloader mode just to finally get to TWRP on the HTC 10 for making nandroids, etc. Is there one of those kinds of widgets that will work here for us, to quickly reboot into TWRP?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
None I know of offhand, but once I have s-off (to test and make sure it works) I can write you one in half a hour.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.a.miller26:
#htcn00b N00B Alert. I have the Verizon variant of the HTC 10 and I downloaded the new sunshine app that was recently released it says it passed the test and to click next to attempt temp root but there was no button...see attached image...anyone have luck using the sunshine 3.3.20?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
The sunshine app doesn't work on the verizon variant yet, because of the changes verizon made. It's a waiting game right now until [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] and the team get it working.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] madeiracam:
I don't think that version works with the VZW 10 yet... I believe they are working on it as we speak
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.a.miller26:
Awesome I will patiently await the updated version
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
jcase said he is thinking this weekend.

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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
SunShine 3.4 will bring temproot for HTC 10, which will allow it to work on verizon. It is undergoing testing now, could be tonight, but tomorrow more likely. This is the nearest thing to an ETA that will be given, please dont ask for updates on it.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.a.miller26:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] no rush man thank you soOo much for all you and your teams hardwork!!!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

Lol no joking

Nah take your time.

I know what its like doing stuff like this and some of the others do to.

Just do what you want to do and finish on your own time.

I always felt I could be more proud of my work when I thought of it this way.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
Major props for the devs, you'll have a beer in me soon enough. All your work is always appreciated.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
day += 1 day += 1 day += 1

:P
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I feel like this is going to be an inside joke for many of us.

This will become true if you run into a bug I created for my OS class.

You know one where even restarting a machine did not free up the associated Memory addresses and the OS/VM would not run again on teh same machine and had to use another machine to even run it XD. it required an actual unplug and pressing power button to drain any sense of power from the thing. XD

you may increment what 1 day means if it means this does not happen in the app LOL.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TailsDROID:
Just wanted to say a sincere thanks for the work that you and your team do. Your work has been the sole enabler of my android development hobbies. I can't wait to donate my $25 and get to playing on my VZW 10.

On a somewhat related note, can anyone point me toward any resources pertaining to the reverse engineering of a phones boot processes/access to security flag alteration/bootloader security etc? I have a knack for tinkering in that vein but can't afford to learn on expensive phones lol. I'd love to someday contribute here!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
There isn't a document or source that really tells you how to reverse it.

Most of us learn from the fact that we tinkered with coding or making apps etc(or in my case ruining OS adn virtual machine hardware you programed XD)

(me i went to school for computer engineering). You mostly learn from mistakes. and reviewing the code as you can see things that happen or you review what changes are made but

http://newandroidbook.com/Articles/aboot.html

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6139952/what-is-the-booting-process-for-arm

http://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/8326/reverse-engineering-bootloader

https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-europe-04/bh-eu-04-dehaas/bh-eu-04-dehaas.pdf

There isn't a manual on this sadly.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TailsDROID:
I appreciate the links! I don't expect a manual, this is all fairly unexplored territory. I have coded for fun since I was very young, and I've been learning about reversing when I can find the time for a long time now. Im still no expert, but I started out making mods for one of the first graphical mmorpgs ever on pc, and now tinker with learning to write android apps, and deconstruct them as well, as well as challenge myself with reversing windows-based programs from time to time.

All of this boot-phase backdoor modding and things that are currently beyond the scope of my knowledge are very intriguing to me. :) Now I have some reading material to kill time until the 6.0 demons leave [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] alone lol. ;)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Did not know that. Looks like you got what it takes actually :D

My other advise is hit UP understanding ARM Boot-loaders, Android bootloaders or many devices.

Also the black hat conferences..etc are really good places for good info to learn whats new.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TailsDROID:
I'm already learning a lot of useful information from the links provided so thanks again. Can one work with an emulated device to the same effect as a physical device or do the hardware differences/emulation technology make it impossible? I'll be Google-ing but I'm guessing you may know lol.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] pulled it off, throw them a round of applause, sunshine is now working for the Verizon HTC 10. Throw them a round of cheers!

They will release sunshine soon when they feel it is stable, as of sunshine 3.4, it is now supporting the Verizon 10!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
* now as in version 3.4 that we will be uploading shortly, polaric had a preview, still working out some minor bugs
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] willjohnson:
Were is the best place to get sunshine when it's ready?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
most likely

http://theroot.ninja/

But I am not a DEV involved with this particular project. Sooooooooo
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Avalaunchmods:
I<3ujcase and beaups

:highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
Any minute now....
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
I'll retry, but I'm getting a "failure" message.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
With version 3.4?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Check the OP! Sunshine information added.

NOTE for those who won't read the OP. When sunshine asks, turn the screen off and back on
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TailsDROID:
Yesss! Running now. You guys are amazing!!

For those confused with the temproot, turn off screen for like ~10 seconds after it stops buzzing, if it says temproot achieved when you turn the screen back on it worked, if not, repeat. Reminds me of the Rezound a little bit hehe.

Edit: Oh, and to clarify, this is no practical reason to unlock the bootloader at this time, correct?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Worked fine for me. Just had to reboot once for temproot to work. S-off unlocked didn't wipe a thing.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
If you just turn the screen on and off once the vibrating starts, that's all you really need, just leave it off for a couple seconds. If it fails to temproot, just try again.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
tried it but when i press the power button it will buzz shortly after LOL.... and keeps failing. well ill try again and again.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Once it starts buzzing, wait a second then hit the power button, count to 3 or so, then unlock the device, and see if that works.

FYI: The buzzing is to remind you to turn off the screen.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] danjull:
S-off achieved! Thanks [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION]!!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
As soon as it asks you to turn screen off, turn it off and leave it for at LEAST 5 seconds, 10 is better. Then turn it on, the buzzing is a "you are late, turn the screen off now" reminder
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
now just need to wait for the instructions on how to install TWRP :P

despite the millions of options out there fastboot commands already there.

someones gonna ask XD
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Download twrp-pme from twrp's website, put it in the bootloader, and run fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] danjull:
A million thanks! Time to get dangerous and start flashing CM builds.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stam2000:
This is awesome. Thanks to the devs. Perfect time for me to leave my wallet at home.....FML lol
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aleggsue:
How long did the "please wait" message sit on your screen? Mine has now done 5 or 6 full progress bars and it's done that several times now.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] polaric:
Let it do its thing, it can take a few mins. When it's done it'll reboot your phone for you.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 1droidmod:
Thanks thanks.. worked perfect. No I can normalize my phone again , thanks again
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I have had it buzz right away then keep buzzing while it is off.

I have removed it and reinstalled it.

And restarted in between it.

Basically there are times that it will not buzz.

I will turn the screen off wait 5 seconds or more then turn it on and it just says please wait and asks me to turn the screen off with a no go.(for several minutes each time)

It has done this many times. It has happened with and without the power cable.

With and without plugged into a computer as well.

trying one more time.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
What apps do you have installed? Any screen or power saving related ones?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] danjull:
I rebooted my phone about three times, and ran sunshine about 5. It finally went through. When it worked I turned the screen off immediately when the temproot screen popped up. Left it off for about 10 seconds, when I turned it on it said success.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
no power saving apps

whats installed are things like bank apps, antutu(got a 142k <.<)

cloud apps

Nest pokemon go, snapchat SMS backup and Restore, SONO, speedtest, on Star Pebble.

Tried again.

Turned it off 10 Seconds(clocked it) Let it sit there for like 8 mins with a no go.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
submit a ticket http://therootninja.zendesk.com
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TotallyAnxious:
S-off worked second try. I took the first ota prior and had ForceDoze running with the the adb permissions enabled. If that helps with debugging. Could someone explain how bootloader unlock is gained?

Edit: I ran fastboot flash recovery twrp.img (with the info for the directory the img is in) and it just waits for the device, what did i do wrong?