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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tybaltus Prime:
Ya from what I just read around that good ol interweb it's same device different firmware... If u read back a few pages a user in here did the whole process of getting his unlocked onto Verizon successfully, but not without bumps. I suggest you read back and use his posts as ur guide.. Maybe even contact them with specific questions, this thread has a good vibe. Best of luck.?

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Is it on the root of the card.. Meaning not in any folders?

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There's this as well http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3376743
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
Many have successfully, quite easily actually - thanks to great guides, are using unlocked hTC 10 on Verizon with everything working as if it were a Verizon variant.

I also know of a few whom have flashed the unlocked firmware on a Verizon variant, but kept Verizon radio.img and all is well.

Hope this info helps.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarima:
I've been looking for consistent, reliable info about this all over the forums and can't find too much since most people are interested in doing the opposite. In fact I remember reading a post from one dev advising against this. I've read the hardware is the same across all variants yet there are so many conflicting posts about flashing non-vzw firmware on a vzw 10 being a bad idea. And still others are managing it.

Can you point me to something that would give me some assurance before I follow one of the many conversion threads? I'm one of those apparently rare guys who has a Verizon 10 but is using it elsewhere (Canada). Would love to try the Unlocked firmware, and especially radios to see if my reception and call quality improve. Thanks.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
I do wish you the best of luck. :)

I wondered, when using the template that I printed, even though I checked its dimensions with a digital caliper, so I know its measurements were spot on, the lines they have you cut along with scissors leave some variance as to how each person would follow a line with a pair of scissors. I imagine no 2 people cut exactly the same way. (Some cutting down the middle, some off toward one edge of the line, etc. ) And I don't know just how close to those lines the actual internal circuitry would be. I suppose if I happened to cut through it (and may never know if that happened) it would be ruined.

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With the 2PS6IMG.zip file in place on the root of your External SD card, when you get into Download Mode, you want to look only at the text at the very bottom of the screen for this step. It will tell you if it properly detects the 2PS6IMG.zip file, and then will tell you to press the Power button to start flashing the 2PS6IMG.zip file. Just follow the prompts on the screen once that process begins. I always do this kind of stuff with my phone plugged into a charger, just so I don't have to be concerned about how much charge the battery has and whether it will be enough. You don't want the phone dying of loss of power when you are flashing a file like this.

Hope this helps. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
I wish i cpould say 100% this is ok to do but I personally have not done this, so I won't say to do it (although I have flashed the pmic-8996-1.img from the unlocked firmware, international and T-Mobile with no issue), what someone does with their device is on them. All I can give is the info I have heard, that a few ppl have done this. I have no reason to question them. Also, if I can find the post jcase commented about it, that may be of some assurance. I will posdt back when I can find it.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobi125:
Yeah I'm on Verizon.

Would be nice if there was a cheaper version of Sunshine for those of us that just want root and don't care about Custom Roms/Bootloader/S-Off.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tybaltus Prime:
Can't root without twrp can twrp without s-off... Only other option is no root.. If u want it for tethering... That 25 bux pays itself back in like 2 or 3 months. How long did u plan to have the device?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobi125:
I just need root for Xposed framework so I can get XNotify to hide the garbage HTC Boomsound notification and some other useless notifications like WIFI connected.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
OK. You've posted it three times now. There's no "limited root". You either do it via sunshine or you don't. Like getting pregnant for chicks. They don't get half pregnant. No amount of whining about it here is going to get you any option other than sunshine.

Sorry man.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobi125:
You asked me about what I needed root for and how long I'd have the device and then complain about me whining when I answer?

I get it. Thanks anyways.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
No I did not. My only comment here is based upon observation and no prior dialogue between us.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pettigrew95:
Can you point me in the direction of a guide on how to install the latest firmware but retain VZW radio.img (if you've seen it in a guide)? If it doesn't work is it reversible? My ROM is on 1.90.401.5 but my firmware is still on VZW 1.19 so I'm thinking my horrible battery life has something to do with the mismatch. Thanks!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] btonetbone:
The Sunshine team has repeatedly explained their decisions and business model. If you feel there is a niche/customer base to be filled with a competitive product, by all means develop it and sell it cheaper.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TotallyAnxious:
Though we can get double, triple, and quadrupole pregnant. Is there a root like that? (jk)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] disconnecktie:
Hey [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I was wondering if you guys were looking for a fix for those of us that used s-off unlocked? It isn't working right.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
What do you mean? S-OFF UNLOCKED works fine (as does S-OFF LOCKED). What issue are you having?

--beaups
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] disconnecktie:
I don't know how to explain it or I would. I'm not able to flash certain things or they'll flash but don't actually take. Xposed doesn't work properly as a result. Mods applied from a previous rom are being left behind because it's almost like system won't wipe the way it should. No matter how many times I wipe.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Recovery cannot replace any firmware partitions using by-name mounting on Unlocked. Works as expected with Locked status.

As for other issues, I can't speak on those.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
SunShine works fine with the new Verizon update btw
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
That's not an "issue" so much as it's how HTC is designing things now. Some of it started with the M9.

For S-OFF/LOCKED users we did add code to address this new "feature", because it was preventing users from being able to write to the boot partition on S-OFF/LOCKED devices while in recovery/android.

We will look into possibly incorporating the same feature for S-OFF/UNLOCKED users in a future SunShine release. In the meantime, users can always go S-ON then use the S-OFF/LOCKED feature in SunShine.

--beaups
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] disconnecktie:
How can I go back to s-on so I can do that?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] taspankya:
Still unclear.. am i ok to take todays OTA using system update without having to do anything different. I am s-off/unlocked
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
As long as you don't have SuperSu installed and you have stock recovery loaded.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
I'd also like to go back to S-ON and then change to S-OFF/LOCKED

-- Will I still be able to use the Sunshine app once turned to S-ON to get to S-OFF/LOCKED since I sent it out to you guys for S-OFF before the app was updated for Verizon support.

Thank you kindly.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] taspankya:
Got it. Thx
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dooms87:
PHEW Thank goodness havent turned my phone on in a couple of hours till you or someone else confirmed this :D You'r the best Jcase !
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] klarthur:
Just to clarify... I have purchased Sunshine and chose the S-Off/Locked option so that it didn't wipe my phone. Is the phone basically Unlocked but just displays Locked? Will the "Locked but actually Unlocked" remain even if I take an OTA or something like that? I just want to make sure it isn't like a temporary "Unlock" or something...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
OTAs do not effect locked or unlocked or s-off status.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] klarthur:
I guess a better question would be... Is there anything I can do to screw up the root if it shows locked?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
I don't understand your question...

There's nothing you can do to screw up your locked or unlocked status, unless you intentionally input the adb commands that would change it.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tybaltus Prime:
Are you referring specifically to root? If you take an OTA you may lose root, but to my understanding you can simply reflash twrp and supersu indefinitely...im sure Santod knows better but that's my input if it helps clarify anything
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] klarthur:
That's basically it. Sorry, I definitely didn't word it well... I want quite sure how to word it. Thank you for the response
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] REtails:
I'm a little new to Android 6 and what HTC is doing with it, but from what I understand this is because the OTA checks something like recovery hash/file size/etc and whether the default user has root privileges before allowing the install process to begin, correct? I assume someone has the stock recovery floating around that I could flash easily but in what capacity does SuperSU have to be removed?

I appreciate the help, I was finally mastering 4.4.2 and then I had to go and upgrade my phone, lol.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
More than that. Must be matching recovery and 100% untouched /system.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Coheed196:
So I've downloaded the sunshine apk and I was wondering if there's a step by step guide on what to do. I've read this thread from the apk release to the current posts and I've seen posts about having to do adb commands, flashing different things, etc. I have no problem doing those things and know how to do them. I just like to have my steps in front of me before I go about doing things that might mess my phone up somehow.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarima:
What kind of guide are you looking for exactly? How to use Sunshine or a more comprehensive How-to-root guide?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
Nope, no adb commands to get it done with Sunshine. You need to do a factory reset of the phone, making sure no apps area disabled or missing. Enable Developer Options and USB debugging. Go to Security options and check Unknown Sources box.

Download Sunshine and something to install APK's, like Root Explorer. Install it, run, and be ready to enter your PayPal credentials 1/3 thru the process. It will root, then S-0ff the phone with a couple of restarts. They've made it easy peezy.

p.s. some of our devs are recommending that when asked, you choose to stay LOCKED as you obtain S-0ff.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Coheed196:
Excellent, that's what I was trying to figure out.

Did I read that this is only a temporary root or something?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
S-off allows you to RE-root whenever. The sunshine app uses a temproot to achieve this.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Coheed196:
I guess I was looking for a guide of what to do after running sunshine. Cause I know I read people flashing supersu and twrp.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] REtails:
The forum search feature is your friend! There are detailed posts on this topic around the forum. Nevertheless, here are the basic steps following s-off with Sunshine. Please PM me any questions. :)

Standard Disclaimer: I am in no way responsible for any damage that may occur to your phone, computer, cat, ant farm, or any other such relevant property, whether resultant from interpretation of the information contained in this post or by any other course and by continuing to read this post you hereby accept this Standard Disclaimer and acknowledge sole responsibility for the outcome of your actions.

Anyhow:

-On your phone, download the supersu zip attached to the original post here and make sure you are aware of where your browser saved that file, usually in the "Downloads" folder on the internal SD card

-Download the program ADB (Android Debug Bridge) on your computer and install/place it in an easy to access directory such as ' C:\adb\ '. If you install the Android Software Development Kit it will be installed for you, but you can also google for adb installers that are much quicker and easier to use, just watch out for sketchy links.

-Ensure you have functional USB drivers for your phone and adb installed. Generally installing HTC Sync Manager will cover this

-Locate the latest version of TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) custom recovery for the HTC 10 online and download it

-Place the twrp-3.0.2-6-pme.img. it in your \adb\ directory and rename it something simple like ' twrp.img '

-Connect your phone to your computer and wait for the device to be recognized, ensure USB Debugging is on

-Open a new command prompt on your computer and change to the adb directory (ie: cd c:\adb\)

-Enter the command "adb devices" to make sure you see a device listed, indicating that adb sees your phone, if so:

-Enter the command "adb reboot bootloader" to reboot into fastboot mode

-Again, check that adb recognizes your phone now that you are in fastboot mode by entering "fastboot devices"

-Enter the command "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" where twrp.img is the name of the twrp file you downloaded

-Upon completion type "fastboot reboot" , you now have custom TWRP recovery installed, next step is to root it!

-Install the twrp app from the play store to reboot into recovery mode, alternatively hold volume down + power while powering on the phone and navigate to reboot to bootloader -> reboot to recovery

-Once TWRP loads up, select install, and navigate to the directory of the supersu zip file you downloaded at the beginning of this

-Select the file, and swipe to install, once your phone reboots the supersu binary has been installed and the app may or may not need to be installed from the play store (getting sleepy)

Hope this helps ;)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Andyw2100:
I am pretty inexperienced with all this, but I ran Sunshine and then followed instructions to install TWRP and Super-SU to obtain root last night, and I absolutely DID NOT need to do a factory reset at any point in the process.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] REtails:
This is correct, sunshine's app's method does not require a fresh installation, and can be run without disturbing the data on the data partition.

To clarify some confusion about root, temproot, etc in this thread: root generally refers to root-level access provided by mostly persistent modifications such as a hard-coded rom changes, the installation of SuperSU or other system level apps, etc. Root generally persists until a rom update/install occurs.

Temproot generally refers to root provided on a session-limited basis, usually via an exploit in the Android OS. This allows an application or applications to perform actions requiring root-level privileges when it would otherwise be disallowed by the configuration of the device.

In the case of Sunshine, a temproot exploit is necessary to perform certain actions that set the stage for the s-off process to occur, once the temproot has been utilized to make its modifications it is no longer in effect as Sunshine reboots the device. Then the user can proceed to install a permanent root solution (ie: supersu).

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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] l2icky:
So... The SunShine App is now working for the Verizon 10?

"Verizon HTC 10 support added (to app!)"
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Yes, as this thread and the Sunshine site states...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Anyone interested to know, the Xtc2clip team has posted that they are working on supporting the verizon Htc 10 for S-off. They already support the Htc 10 versions for S-off the versions that are supported by Htcdev for unlocking their bootloaders. So hopefully soon the guys with Xtc2clips can start S-off unlocking peoples Verizon Htc 10's also.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Seriously their implementation is nothing I would touch. Even the non-vzw "support" they have is amateur at best. I would highly recommend against using it for reasons that will not be disclosed here. Let's also drop the wording "clip" from all further talk. It's hacky software from them and nothing more.

If you notice, there are issues with their incomplete implementations. When users post with these issues they DELETE them. No joke.

Proceed at your own risk. I would not be using their crap on my phone let alone someone else's.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
The Xtc2clip team never deleted any of my posts and I have posted quite a few times about them not giving an details on weather they will support the largest USA market provider version of the Htc 10. When it comes out I will give it a try and report back. There were all kinds of people using xtc2clips last year on the M9 and M8's yourself included so that said I will give it a try when its out. The 10 support is already there they just need to get the bootloader unlocked since verizon had the oem unlock bootloader option removed from the settings menu.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
You don't comprehend me sir.

The m9 used keys and the clip (hardware solution).

The 10 they do NOT have keys for. It's a software only hack. And while they haven't deleted your posts they have deleted posts of users with perm s-on phones that happened as a result.

Give up the fact you spent $100 on a paperweight because that's all it is anymore.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Are not all the methods software hacks ? Otherwise the other method would be using keys also but are not supposed to be.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Not at all. Their previous method relied on hardware (clip with keys) which was very safe as it invoked a factory mode implementation.

Starting with the 10 for them it's all software. Not the same product at all and they are huge amateurs. Writing checks they cannot cash. In the software world starting with the 10, not all s-off is the same. Not all locked/unlocked is the same. Trust me on this.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Ok but the only other s-off method is a software hack also as it does not use factory keys either though correct ?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Correct but the implementation is much safer and it's not written by amateurs. Keep in mind the clip guys never had to do software before and they will need to start over with every ota.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcase:
Bickering not needed guys, I've spoken to xtc2clip ppl before, good people. Verizon 10 will be an on going challenge, likely to require rewrites each and every update (ie do it before another update comes). The reason we hit verizon is because they are our primary targets, everything else is mostly "also works on". You notice when we got Verizon support working, we also got everyone else working s-off without messing up crypto (requiring wipe), or triggering any of the other checks, and without pre rooting. XTC has a different kind of target, they are targetting the majority market. Verizon s-off also brings additional safety concerns that are not apparent when working on non Verizon devices, if done wrong, its pretty easy to lock the device up forever. Give them their time and relax.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Lol I'm relaxed. My clip was good for previous phones. Now that keys don't exist I will leave the software exploits HTC related to the guys with all the experience.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Ok, I will keep a close eye out and when they come out with the Verizon Htc 10 support I will watch the forum for posts of issues and see if they remove any and maybe wait a week after its out before trying it and see what others post and just take it all in and I will report back on what I find out. If they are amateurs I do not understand how they were able to have things work great all last year. I will just keep a close eye out and make an informed decision. Thank you for the heads up on deleted posts if they do that after supporting the Verizon version then I will figure it out by watching the forum like a hawk for the first week.

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There is and was no " Bickering " myself and D were just discussing the Xtc2clip he was stating his opinion on the subject and we were just discussing it, no bickering about it what so ever.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Because all last year was hardware based. Not work or development they did. All based on stolen keys. That's how it worked. Just like a Java card.

Now let's let this return to normal discussion. If you want we can take this conversation offline to discuss more.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
No further conversation needed as I listed how I"am going to proceed and thank you for your opinions on the subject of the Xtc2clip. As I stated I will post more on the subject after the update comes out for verizon Htc 10 support and I have investigated the forum for problems for a week before making an informed decision, once again thanks for the heads up I will keep that in mind.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
OK. Mostly all fact there.

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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
I will keep an open mind and eyes wide open.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] beaups:
The thanks button is on the right...The "report post" button is on the bottom left.

--beaups
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M9guy:
Yes I know they changed it lol. I guess I"am asking people to report me lol :) One of these days I will go back in to the settings and switch it lol.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 1droidmod:
What's [MENTION=6144856]M9guy[/MENTION] tripp'n about? I get the impression he thinks Sunshine should be free? If that's the case with that being said I would easily pay double, triple, quadruple for the sunshine app just to have the phone as mine and to do what with as I please and not have f**n ads all over the damn place screwing everything up and spams and spies and ridiculous Facebook apps and others that want to own your phone and everything on it. Sunshine app is worth just as much as the device or more. I love you sunshine guys and thanks again for busting out my HTC 10 Verizon (jail) for me. I can't express enough how amazing and talented your team is. You ever need any ceiling work done let me know, LOL.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
Wait, what do any of those have to do with Sunshine and S-OFF?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
They pertain to ROOT... the subject of this thread.