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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Would really like to know. I can't find a thing about when they'll be available
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ericsdeadinside:
Add me to the list. HTC ignored my tweet when I asked them when they'd be available in the US.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] GottaStayFly:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved

for the people wondering if its the SD820 DAC or not.. so it seems HTC made their own or using some other company for it, until ifixit or someone does a through teardown and takes a closer look at the boards we can assume its an external DAC possibly or they worked super hard on making that 820 DAC work very well..

Plus I swear I read someone on this forum that the 820 can't do up scaling or play 24-bit audio something like that (take this with a grain of salt).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
Hello Everybody

When I hear ringing the phone it sound only by the lower speaker, it sounds muffled and low ( Very very bad)

But when I use to hear music is very very good ( i´m using poweramp) and sounds in the upper and lower speaker

Do somebody happens this? any ideas or fixes?

Thanks to everybody
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Sitting here with my Shure SE846 IEMs on the HTC 10 waiting for my car to get its updates finished. Listening to Google Play Music.

HTC BoomSound settings, in my opinion, are best set to "Other" and then calibrate the frequencies from there. I wish they would tell us the frequency Hz or allow us to have more control. I have the left and right ears equalized with a moderately high boost to both lows and highs as I prefer a more "fun" sound. So far, it definitely seems clearer than my 6P and the bass hits harder. On my 6P I was using V4A with a custom EQ set to similar levels. I need to do a side-by-side test obviously, but so far I am really impressed with the 10's audio.

The packaged BoomSound settings such as ear bud, pro, etc. seem weird and I don't like them at all personally. Other does modify the sound a bit but I can't tell how. But you have to have it enabled to do EQ mods.

In my car with a 900W 19 speaker Harman/Kardon system, I preferred BoomSound turned off.

Later on I can also try the 10 with my Sennheiser HD800S and see if it can drive them decently.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Looking to get some new IEMs. What's everyone using? Wish I could try those ultra rare HTC hi res buds already..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gsw5700:
Loving poweramp.. Sounds well good. Just been comparing goggle and poweramp over several songs, poweramp wins for me
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Well you can stop wishing.

They're nothing more than fancy looking ear buds. I wouldn't rate them worth more than 5$'s.

Tangly sort of silicone cable which will catch everywhere.

Boomy OP bass, boomy mids. Far from "hi-res".

I'll keep using my Xiaomi Piston 3's thank you very much.

But anyway, otherwise I'm extremely pleased with the sound quality of the 10.

Both the speakers and the headphone output. Drives my HD-330's really well.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Do you own a pair?

I don't know a lot of $5 IEMs that have a freq range of 10-40k. If and when they become available and knowing how they tend to overprice their accessories I wouldn't be surprised to see them listed for $80-$100
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
And why or rather how could I tell you how they sound if I didn't..

Received them with my 10.

And what good does that kind of a frequency range give you? Are you a dog? (they can hear up to 45kHz).

Last time I checked the ear of an average Joe can hear up to around 15kHz or so but rolls of sharply from there. Of course this is personal and everyone is different but even 20kHz is kinda "out of reach" unless we're talking about children.

The frequency response of these ("Hi-Res" earphones) is probably going to look something like this if you'd measure them

The Xiaomi Piston 3's are far from absolutely neutral but so much more refined. They do have a valley in the 6-8kHz area but nothing too bad and easily fixed with either using the personal audio profile or adjusting the EQ slightly.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Ah OK. That's unfortunate to hear. I've heard others say they sounded great but I won't be purchasing them if they've got blown out lows like all other HTC headsets.

I figured by your wording "cable which will catch everywhere" you were speaking theoretically lol.

Also I am no dog but I can hear very high tones. I immediately noticed a high pitched whine coming from my device that was present in the shipped firmware that apparently no one else was noticing so it's quite possible lol. I know tones outside 20-20k are irrelevant but the specs were all I had to judge these by in the US.

Anyway unfortunate to hear these are a disappointment. You'd think with all the effort they put into the 10's audio system they could produce a decent set of high end IEMs.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chord_Hugo87:
if you are serious about IEM, consider the westone line...they make awesome IEM and second to none in terms of comfort, they are pricing, but worth every penny.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I'm trying to spend $80-120

I'm between the Shure se215, Hifiman RE-400, RHA MA750, Dunu Titan 1

Looks like the westone 1 is the only one close to my price range. Any experience with it?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chord_Hugo87:
nope I started with W20...all westone product for me is good except for W50 which is tooo much damn bass
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pitaajchao:
how are the speaker working for you guys so far? heard mix reviews about the top and bottom speakers. the tweeter's volume seems to be not loud enough and the bottom sometimes over powers the top? anyone else with this problem?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rdmack:
I don't think the hi-res earphones are provided by htc in the box. They're the JBL Reflect Aware C

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/12/11402874/jbl-reflect-aware-type-c-noise-canceling-headphones
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Yes, they are.

These came in the box with my 10 here in Finland.

http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/htc-high-res-audio-earphones/#!pid=htc-10

The JBL Reflect Aware C are completely different IEM's and connect by type C instead of a 3.5mm plug.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
Yes the ones I got with my 10 in the UK are the HTC high res not the JBL ones. I love them. Really good quality, sound is amazing, noise cancelling is really good as well. Best in ear headphones I have got yet!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rdmack:
Ohh! I was mistaken. Won't need to buy the JBL ones for my audio fix then :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] demi9od:
This is true. The bottom speaker is definitely louder and cupping the bottom of the phone does increase the volume quite a bit. I think Boomsound Theatre emphasizes the bottom speaker, and Boomsound Music is more balanced. There will be custom Boomsound profiles eventually in ROMs that will get these speakers working as good as they can, but they will probably never be as good as the M8/M9.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Have any of you new HTC 10 owners been able to compare it to a Note 4 C Exynos?

That has very good Earphone sound quality & was curious as to how they compare?

Ta
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dabbler77:
I can only compare to my iphone 6. With AKG K702's i had to use a Fiio amp. With the 10 - no amp needed. It sounds so much better than the iphone 6 and now i can play 24bit 192 flac's :) Great audio.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dman777:
What about HTC 10 compared to iphone 6 with the Fiio amp? Which sounds better?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] k0zzu:
I can recommend the Shures. Great build quality and you can replace the cable if you manage to break it. Loads of aftermarket earpieces, if you can't find a fitting pair from the ones provided. Sound quality is good and quite neutral. They also sit flush to the ear, so they are very comfortable when sleeping. The only con is after a while the urge to upgrade further in the Shure line-up.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I've read the bass is a bit muddy and they lack detail. The detachable cord is really appealing though.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] geoff5093:
It's unfortunate, one of the reasons I got the 10 over my S7 Edge was because of the better and louder audio, however when listening to podcasts in the shower it still isn't any louder than the S7 Edge on full volume :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
V4A is your friend, you can get up to 50% more volume, though I recommend V4A for speakers and BT only, the 3.5mm port is more than loud
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] geoff5093:
I guess I'll need to root soon! Are there any profiles or guides on tweaking this for the HTC 10, or do you just use the defaults?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
For louder speaker it's very easy, there is a menu in V4A for that and you can increase to +6db in the last menu
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhericurls:
Have you installed V4A on your 10? When I installed it, it totally messed up my audio.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fireguy0306:
Define messed up?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhericurls:
The audio was distorted, went super tinny and robotic.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] stevedebi:
I'm not impressed. The few times I used the speakers on my M7,M8, and M9, it sounded fine. The 10 sounds clear but tinny. Fortunately I generally only listen using earbuds or BT speakers.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
See page 8 of this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3358064

V4a makes phenomenal improvements to speaker quality
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] GermanGuy:
So I installed V4A, compatible mode, driver installed. Increased gain by 6 dB, but enabling /disabling speaker does not seem to have any effect. Anything else I need to do?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] razrlover:
If you want big sound A.r i.s.e audio 0.8.7 has drivers installed all processing, 1 zip flash by guitarededhero here

https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3379709&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

A.R.I.S.E. Sound Systems - Auditory Research in Sound Enhancement - Exodus 0.8.4
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
The HTC audio effects file needs to be removed or patched. There's a zip that does it in the thread i linked a post or two up
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] GermanGuy:
Yeah. It's a zip "htc effects" , already had that.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Have you tried not using compatibility mode? Mines working fine on normal
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] GermanGuy:
Tried that too. Didn't make a difference.

Don't see an effect with headset either
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Hmm not sure. Did you do zip installation as well? When I raise output gain I can hear a significant boost in vocals but not much else. Otherwise I'd say maybe ask in V4A thread
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fireguy0306:
This looks quite interesting.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] th3:
What about HTC Music and Soundcloud?

My 10 (001) speaker sound is very low, even during a call I'm straining to hear anything. Far lower than the M8/9 side by side. It is extremely disappointing that I can barely hear the audio in public environments and maybe only just catch some vocals. It's also very tinny and bland for any loudspeaker playback. Really Pretty Piss Poor letdown.

Headphones are fine.

Sent from HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
same view here!

I wrote in several threads here !

if you talk about the music quality: it´s good. More quiet than HTC one M8 but good

With headphones... very good

Ringer volume..... disappointing. Very low and muffled, worst if you place amp song like a ringtone and only sound in the lower speaker

I have tried everything and nothing, i can´t change any values for to fix
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] terryb28:
This sounds like a deal breaker, need a new phone because I am switching service. Could care less how music sounds but like to stream talk radio. Will I be able to turn it on and be able to hear it around the room like the m8. Cannot stand the head phone idea like to be able to hear what's happening around me.
[OnePlus 2 General] izzikiorage:
For using my phone in that car, I've been long pressing the button on my earphones to activate google voice search. For some reason now everytime i do that it says "to do a Google voice search please unlock your phone". How can i get back to having my wired headphones work even in a locked screen

Don't want to use ok google since it has a huge battery drain
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] DiamondJay20:
I thought it would be a good idea to set it so you need to enter the pattern to boot the phone up after a restart. I wanna turn that off. How do I do it?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Aboody Zomar:
Just make change lock screen to swipe or none. It will remove the pattern/knock code

:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] ChadH42:
G935VVRU2APD2 is scheduled to drop today.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-update/

Let us know when your get the OTA notice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] gettinwicked:
No battery improvements... Still... WTH Verizon!

FYI checked the Verizon site for the info. Haven't gotten the update yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] afh3:
Installing it right now...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] ChadH42:
I just received the update notice. Downloading now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] oryanh:
Can someone see if foxfi is still working with this update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] otterdad:
Optimizing new apps now - saying a prayer ...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] afh3:
Phone seems to have survived the update. Always encouraging.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] retsen:
Still works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] sonicshaman:
no notice, but checking from the phone it was there for the taking
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] berfles:
Great. Is this the only app you found to be installed with the update? This type of garbage should be illegal.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] conanbarb:
Installed successfully. New Changelist is 7722939
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] dajmanjt:
Yea it should be illegal for sure. That's the only intrusive app I saw added. The CNN edge app was added I think, I disabled it right away lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] A_N_D_R_E:
I just finished applying the update and I don't see this app anywhere.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] eric150:
I delayed it. Anyone notice Battery differences or anything?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] oryanh:
You may need to install Package Disabler Pro in order to see it to remove.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] raidflex:
For some reason when I go to check for updates it does not stop checking. I had it running for 15 minutes before cancelling. Also tried rebooting the phone.

Edit: Its working now, it was a service that was disabled. I just re-enabled everything that I had disabled with package disabler.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] fendee1:
do a search for com.logiagroup it will find the DT ignite service, just disable it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] bsweetness:
Along with the other methods mentioned so far, you can also find it by opening the Application manager, tapping More at the top right, and tapping "Show system apps." It will then appear in the alphabetical list. Selecting it will allow you to disable it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] admiral70:
Anyone find the fingerprint unlocking not working? Before the update I had pattern and fingerprint working. Now I have to enter pattern always.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] MArtyChubbs:
No
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] admiral70:
Seems to be related to a third part screen lock program. It works fine when using the power switch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] Bxrider117:
I found that Android system is no longer at the top of my battery status. Screen on time is now at the top. Android system is now 3rd in my list. I noticed that immediately after the update. I'm going to run my phone for a full day and see if the battery life changes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] JasonJoel:
Correct. Our phone actually worked incorrectly before the update, per Google marshmallow design. Now it works the way Google designed it, removing a potential vulnerability in the security login app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] zachchen1996:
Battery life on this update seems to be significantly better! :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] dajmanjt:
I absolutely noticed this right away. My double tap to sleep function within Nova is totally useless now, since whenever I use it I have to use the pattern to unlock because my fingerprint is not enough. That's crazy. How is that helpful?

Yea the only way my fingerprint works when waking the phone is when I use the power button to turn off the screen. Any other method forces me to use fingerprint and pattern/pin.

Although I noticed this too, I'm very cautious as to what those stats actually mean. I think they just shuffled the stats around to make the Android system look like less drain. I am withholding final verdict until after I've tested out the battery life for a few days.

I am not sure this statement can be made yet.... you haven't even run the battery for a full day yet since the update came out less than 24 hours ago lol. I tested out my background drain last night, leaving my phone unplugged for 9 hours. The drain during standby time was exactly the same as before the update. However, I will withhold my final verdict until I've had at least 3 days of testing in the bag.

Note: I have disabled lots of bloat using the method I outlined in my guide in another thread. So my standby background drain was already very good. Maybe for people who have not disabled bloat they will notice a difference.... I can't speak to that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] zachchen1996:
Yes I have run it for a full day, and this is a YMMV sort of thing. I'm only posting my personal result lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] mdonnelly1127:
Battery is definitely improved now... the android system battery drain issue is non existent anymore! I used to look at my phone in the morning and have it show 15 or 17 hours left now it's showing me a day and a few hours. Definitely helped, good update Verizon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] Crsdr37:
For those of us that have android auto they also fixed having to select the USB connection type when connecting to the radio. It just automatically launches android auto now!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] zachchen1996:
The battery life I've been getting is amazing! Over 11 hours of SOT.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] dajmanjt:
Lol.... did you look at the internet for 10 of those hours? That's basically what your battery stats say. That's a lot of internet browsing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] Ragnell:
He might have but either way thats MIGHTY Impressive
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] MArtyChubbs:
Phone sucks... Update sucks...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] zachchen1996:
Elaborate please?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] Eddie Hicks:
I haven't updated yet. I assume it's the same if you are using a PIN. Did you find a solution? Fingerprint will be worthless if you still have to use a pattern or PIN. Except I guess for Samsung pay. I hope there is a way to resolve this if it is actually a feature of the update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] SEVENEDGE:
Troll?

VZ S7 EDGE ONYX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] MArtyChubbs:
No

I get poor battery life and the update did not help resolve that major issue for me. That's all...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] SEVENEDGE:
Try cleaning the cache a few times. And what are your settings?

VZ S7 EDGE ONYX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] _Dennis_:
I get great battery life, compared to the S6 and comparable/slightly better then my Z5. What have you done to fix it? Could it be an app you have that is causing the problem? These are tiny computers you can fit in a pocket, about a billion things can go wrong, if your not willing to at least attempt a fix then you can't blame the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] SEVENEDGE:
That's a thought about switching android system. Hmmm

VZ S7 EDGE ONYX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] admiral70:
The enter pattern all the time is due to third party screen lock/off apps. Not from the update itself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] topaz330:
I keep getting a software update is temporarily unavailable. Anyone getting this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] pennyfan87:
same. i don't have a verizon sim, if that matters
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] topaz330:
I do have a Verizon sim and I needed to uninstall greenify and package disabler pro for the update to catch. weird.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] p2kmafia:
next time, export your disabled packages, enable all of them, restart and try to update again. the system update check needs all apps enabled to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] badogg:
I let the update proceed last night and immediately after it rebooted my recent apps an back button wouldn't work. Verizon had me do their repair software on it, still not working. Now I am having to go to the Verizon store after work to have them verify there is no damage on the phone to avoid a 300.00 fee to get a replacement phone for something they and/or Samsung jacked up via their update. I'm kind of pissed about it too because it is probably going to be a refurbished phone and I didn't get this phone just a few weeks ago to have to swap it for a refurb. I paid full retail for a new phone. I'm trying to decide how much of a stink I'm going to make about it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] SEVENEDGE:
Did you try a factory reset?

VZ S7 EDGE ONYX
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] badogg:
No, just the repair software. I'm doing the factory reset from recovery right now.

---------- Post added at 03:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:04 PM ----------

Factor reset from recovery didn't help either.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] _Dennis_:
If a best buy is near by try having their samsung experience his relish you're software. Sounds like something in the update didn't apply right.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] mwshows:
I use both and didn't have to enable anything. I have about 20 apps disabled with Package Disabler and kept them disabled through the whole process, and updated just fine. I doubt his problem has anything to do with this, unless he had an app disabled that specifically was needed for the update. Greenify has no effect on updates either that I'm aware of.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Dis] pennyfan87:
I re-enabled all the apps I had disabled, and removed Greenify.

The update then worked through Samsung Smart Switch. (Which is how you need to do it if you don't have a Verizon sim.)

Didn't test if Greenify was required or not.