yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] kirito9:
As I suspected, Qualcomm SoC specifically MSM8909. I think almost all Alcatel budget phones with Qualcomm has this MSM8909 SoC. I'm not too familiar with Qualcomm and all these devices with Qualcomm seem to have their fastboot partition hidden (I don't know why). Some users bricked their device trying to flash TWRP recovery so I wouldn't risk it if I were you. The problem here really is that fastboot partition that's hidden :mad:. I had a successful report tho over at the other Alcatel thread (Fierce XL) where they flashed a TWRP recovery and they didn't have to unlock their bootloader. They were able to root with SuperSU flashing it. The recovery works well but I don't want to tell you it's possible to flash this if I port it. Backup is another thing, I don't know any tools to make backup that you can restore without fastboot partition being there. Like MTK has SPFT, I don't know what Qualcomm has.
[Android General] maw-xda:
Thanks for your reply. Problem is, mobile upgrade software tool detects I've the most recent version, and closes.

Can't see a way to force it.

Just wondering. Where does it get the version info from? Is there a file I can edit to 'fool' it into thinking an upgrade is needed.

Cheers.
[Android General] kirito9:
I've had this problem before and haven't found a way to bypass it. I too would like to know where the version information comes from.

There's an SPFT ROM backup on the 3rd post of this thread that you might want to try but you might run into versioning problems as this backup is for the 4034D and you have the 4034X. Maybe someone with a working 4034X on stock ROM can make a backup and upload it for you.
[Android General] Curtis1973:
my Alcatel has option to unlock bootloader which I ticked on,now whether or not that unhides anything I do not know but I would assume that means it can be overwritten.
[Android General] maw-xda:
It's a pain, isn't it?

I've got another 4034x, untouched, but don't want to end up in the same position. Is there anything I can pull off that, without flashing a new recovery?

I'm sure I've booted a phone via adb in the past without flashing the recovery. I booted it with a recovery image, rooted it, but left the stock recovery in place. Something like that. It was a huawei y550. I'll have a look.
[Android General] kirito9:
Ahh that's great. You can pull all the files from that without flashing a new recovery and then use those backed up files and flash them to your other 4034X.

Yeah, the command was fastboot boot recovery.img. This allows you to boot the TWRP recovery, make your backup all without permanently flashing the TWRP recovery. You would have to follow the same procedures in getting the booloader unlocked, wiping data etc.
[Android General] maw-xda:
Brilliant! Thanks for that. I'll do it later today, and report back very soon.

Cheers.
[Android General] kirito9:
You're welcome if all goes well I can add your backup to the thread for those with a 4034X. You should clean the device first tho (factory reset then backup), if you plan on uploading.
[Android General] kirito9:
That allows you to unlock the bootloader via fastboot but like I said I'm not sure if your device indeed has the fastboot. If you have adb/fastboot drivers set up, you can do a quick check. Connect your device to the PC, open command prompt and type adb reboot-bootloader.
[Android General] maw-xda:
Will do. All being well, it'll be later today, or tomorrow.

Cheers.
[Android General] kirito9:
No prob, it's cool whenever you can upload, thanks :).
[Android General] Curtis1973:
will give it a try. try to pull the boot.IMG as well. will post results later. did try a few button combos to try and enter fast boot via device. can pull up recovery fine but not fast boot.
[Android General] kirito9:
Then it's as I said, these Alcatel devices with MSM8909 SoC has fastboot hidden or maybe removed. I'm currently working with another device that has the same problem. The users were able to flash TWRP 2.8.7.0 without unlocking the bootloader. I compiled a new TWRP version for them and if this works then I probably can get you TWRP....if we can somehow get the boot.img.

Use the mention system next time so I'll get alerts from you. Mention works like this [MENTION=5113024]"Username"[/MENTION] without quotes.
[Android General] FijiWaterDrinker:
Hey Curtis! It looks like we're in the same boat my friend... Well I don't have your exact device, but we both have the MSM8909 qualcomm SoC and for some reason as stated by Kirito the Pixi's with this particular SoC seem to have a hidden or there's some special trick to getting into fastboot mode other than we're used to (despite them taunting us with the 'OEM Unlocking' option) I want to know who decided this was it qualcomm, why can't we figure out any information on this?!

Anyway I picked up a second one of these devices hoping that I would get a mediatek one where Kirito would be able to help me! Unfortunately though the second one I picked up also has a MSM8909!! lol and it has the same problem fastboot mode doesn't load, only stock recovery does...

So first I got a TCL 4060W (Pixi445), and now a TCL 5027B (Pixi445SPR)

As advised from Kirito I've been trying kingroot on both of them once in a while seeing if they've added a new root strategy, and when they have I tried it and so far neither device with kingroot has been rooted... They came close once though on one of them where it actually caused it to reboot before saying failed, before then and since then that hasn't happened even when it had a method available to try and I tried it.

We have to figure this out because to me without root, a device is basically a brick! LOL So I don't really care if I end up bricking trying to root as it's basically a brick to me now anyway! lol

Oh and one last thing, thinking there was maybe a special trick to get into fastboot mode I tried what some where saying helped them (for something different / flashing with their tool for mediatek devices, but thought it was worth a shot) where you remove the battery and hold the volume down button as you insert the usb cable. From that test it only just turned on and off like with the battery missing it wasn't able to do anything (not fastboot mode nor recovery nor regular boot).

Qualcomms being an ass if they locked us out of our fastboot, there's gotta be a way to get to it or I'll try flashing a twrp and superSU if I have to and hope its already unlocked... But I prefer fastboot mode as its a backup to save you if you need to, and you can test a recovery by just booting it first before flashing to make sure it works!

Any qualcomm engineers in here? Why did you do this? Why did you lock us out of fastboot?

P.S. [MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION] Hey kirito since my last post when telling you the kingroot user requests for my first device, it has gone up to 545 from me being request #298, so more people are starting to pick up this device. Also for my second one I got now it has a higher value already at 890! :D And they do sometimes come out with a strategy to try every week or so, so maybe kingroot will eventually be able to succeed for these particular devices, but either way I'd still like to have fastboot as a failsafe in case things go wrong. Which from reading this thread seems to be common with these ! lol :D
[Android General] kirito9:
That's good :D, hopefully they can find an exploit for these devices. Like you said, fastboot is good but if we can get root and TWRP we can always backup the partitions. As you can see from my previous replies, I haven't found anything as yet that we can use to bypass this. There's also a new issue with these Alcatel devices, [MENTION=7737705]dan198969[/MENTION] has a PIxi 4 (4) 4034X and he cannot get his device unlocked, everything goes well until you get to the actual option to unlock (pressing volume up). It doesn't work :/ It might be hardware related, this issue was also seen on some Nexus 5 and 7 devices and they never found a solution to it.
[Android General] Curtis1973:
[MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION] as i suspected the A621BL one touch has no fastboot mode i can access via device or via adb on computer.

the adb command of adb reboot-bootloader just reboots the phone and thats it. same with fastboot reboot-bootloader..actually the fastboot command just says waiting for device and never does anything. frustrating. looks like root via kingroot is only hope and that wont happen any time soon as no one has requested root but three users including me lol so they wont make it a priority i am arfraid. shame to because this devices stock 5.1.1 has true apps2sd built right in. i am running knights of the old republic with a full 2 gigs of mods for the game right from my actual sdcard not internal memory. just need to get rid of all the google bloat that came on the device. otherwise it is fairly bloat free. i do appreciate your help and will continue to follow the thread....oh also something weird i noticed on this device,while browsing the root directory of the device via root explorer there appears to be no boot.img anywhere that i can find in any directory and i can see all files. just a boot.ver file that is nothing more than a text entry to boot version but no actual boot image any where.
[Android General] Luigi333:
It works on alcatel pixi 4 display 5 5045j

It works on alcatel pixi 4 display 5 5045j
[Android General] maw-xda:
Hi there,

Unlocked the bootloader on my previously untouched 4034. Now stuck on boot screen (Alcatel with swirling stars). Any ideas?

As it's unlocked, I've managed to pull boot.img system.img and recovery.img. Tried "fastboot flash boot.img" and "fastboot flash system.img" to my other 4034, but to no avail: "invalid sparse file format at header magi " when I tried system.img

So my previously untouched one is now out of action. Any thoughts where I can go next?

Cheers.

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:38 PM ----------

Here's the directory of my 4034x stock which I pulled boot, recovery, and system images from.

/dev/block/platform/mtk-msdc.0/11120000.msdc0/by-name # [6nls -la

__bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for localtime!

__bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for GMT!

__bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for posixrules!

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 500 Jan 1 00:21 .

drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 620 Jan 1 00:21 ..

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 boot -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p8

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 cache -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p20

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 expdb -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p14

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 flashinfo -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p23

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 frp -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p16

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 keystore -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p12

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 lk -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p6

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 logo -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p7

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 metadata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p18

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 mobile_info -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p15

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 nvdata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p17

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 nvram -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 oemkeystore -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p10

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 otp -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p22

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 para -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 proinfo -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 protect1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 protect2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p4

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jan 1 00:21 recovery -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p9

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 seccfg -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p13

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 secro -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p11

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 system -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p19

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jan 1 00:21 userdata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p21

/dev/block/platform/mtk-msdc.0/11120000.msdc0/by-name # [6n
[Android General] Luigi333:
@kirito9 It works on alcatel pixi 4 display 5 4045j

It works on alcatel pixi 4 display 5 4045j
[Android General] kirito9:
Use the mobile upgrade tool to restore on the untouched 4034X.
[Android General] kirito9:
Are you spamming?
[Android General] kirito9:
Kingroot should work if you are running 5.1. It doesn't seem to work with 6.0 as yet well at least on these Alcatel devices. Root seems to be the only possible option at the moment. No custom recovery without access to fastboot.
[Android General] maw-xda:
Says I've the most up to date.

I've gone ahead and flashed TWRP and CM13. Couldn't have the phone not working.

It seems that both of my phones messed up after boot loader was unlocked.

Now I'm looking for a way of doing something with the files I pulled. I've the 3 .IMG files I mentioned, and a TWRP backup. Any ideas?

And it seems the mobile upgrade tool checks imei before deciding whether to upgrade.

Cheers.
[Android General] kirito9:
IMEI? How so?

Your TWRP backup is from stock before flashing CM13?

You can flash the system images in TWRP.

Not sure why MUS says it's the latest.
[Android General] maw-xda:
Re. IMEI: HiSuite (Huawei software) said 'checking IMEI' then told me I've the most up to date, even though phone has CM13 on it. May be coincidence, but maybe they're keeping a record of IMEI linked to S/W version.

TWRP backup is from stock before flashing CM13, but was made after the phone failed to boot (was stuck at Alcatel with swirls). The phone wouldn't boot after unlocking bootloader, which is what happened with my other phone.

I tried flashing system images in TWRP, but same problem, stuck at boot.
[Android General] kirito9:
Do you see custpack? If it's not there then no need to worry about backing it up. Do not even bother to make the backup with SPFT. Just upload your recovery.bin and boot.bin files for me along with the scatter file.
[Android General] Proenkel:
Hmm in the next step im not sure what to do.

So this is my SPFT download screen:

https://i.gyazo.com/e1235522d4acfe9888ff1a0bf44db145.png

Now in the next step where you make a boot.img file in the readback tab.

I don't know what to put under start adress and lenght ?

---------- Post added at 11:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

Ok cool i diddnt not see custpack

Here are the files:

boot.bin : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JVrbTbjPCKNE9EZXoxaGdxZmc

recovery.bin : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JVrbTbjPCKRmZfMHRuTDc2enc

scatterfile: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JVrbTbjPCKTFpXWUJsTVptMUU
[Android General] kirito9:
Thanks. I'll make your recovery soon ;)
[Android General] Proenkel:
Thx allot really appreciate it!

After the recover you said i only needed to flash SuperSU to get the device rooted ?

Do you have a tutorial for that process as well ?
[Android General] kirito9:
It isn't that hard after flashing TWRP. Check your PM btw or do you prefer a guide here?
[Android General] Proenkel:
thx a PM is fine :good:
[Android General] kirito9:
Great, when you're ready with Teamviewer let me know :)
[Android General] Proenkel:
Ready, sent you PM
[Android General] noobfromfar:
hey guys I need system.bin of 4034d 2 sim, mt6580, 1gb ram, 6.0 ; mine is 4034n and I can't use 3g in other sim than Orange Mg
[Android General] Sidebandit:
Anything on pixi 4 - 6 Qualcomm variant? Good phone just wanna lose the launcher & Facebook junk.
[Android General] kevios12:
i found this on XDA :)

i think the boot.img is downloadable from adb

http://xdaforums.com/android/software/guide-twrp-3-0-x-mediatek-devices-t3379681
[Android General] kirito9:
You're doing this for which device?

I have a TWRP for the Pixi 4 (5) but I just haven't had the time to post.
[Android General] kevios12:
i can try but is for me to hard....development purpose only to compile...

can you give me a link from pixi 4 4 twrp i can show on it...

now i am onfastboot mode, i search for soulution, i make a DUMP from rom. i looking for it

now i have a boot.img , Recovery.img

and all 8050D.mbn files...

in folder see a .sca file and this is reading with notepad++
[Android General] kirito9:
Hmm, you have the Pixi 4 (6) and not the (4) version. The TWRP that I have probably won't work.

EDIT: If I have time, I can maybe try to port it to your device provided I have some information about your device.

EDIT 2: Can you upload those files you backed up? I would like to look at them.
[Android General] kirito9:
TWRP test

I have TWRP recoveries that I've tested on the Alcatel Pixi 4 (4) and the Pixi 4 (5) but on the model numbers 4034D and 5018 respectively. Before posting I'd like someone who can test these recoveries with a different model number to ensure support across models.

NOTE: The TWRP for the Pixi 4 (4) is not mine, I found it on 4pda.ru.
[Android General] jimmay12345:
how do i exactly install this on an alcatel onetouch pixi 4 (5)

model:5010x

---------- Post added at 09:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------

if a test is needed for my model il do it

just tell me how :)
[Android General] kirito9:
Message me on telegram at kirito9 for details.
[Android General] DinkyBoo:
I was wondering if anyone can help me, I have been at this for almost 2 weeks and just keep going back to square 1.

I have an Alcatel Pixi 4 (6) 9001x which I have rooted using KingRoot. It works well but annoying when the phone has been restarted and I have to use Kingroot to gain access to root again.

Will unlocking the bootloader make it permanent?

Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?

Theres only 2 websites that suggest unlocking the bootloader and the windows apps they want me to download require filling in serveys which i got through but the method never worked anyway.

please could someone point me in the right direction on this issue.

thank you :)
[Android General] kirito9:
You can check to see if the bootloader is locked by first installing your device drivers (adb) then opening a command prompt and type adb reboot bootloader to get into fastboot mode. After you're in fastboot type "fastboot oem unlock". You should see a prompt on the phone screen, follow the instructions. NOTE: Unlocking bootloader will wipe all data/messages.

After you've unlocked the bootloader, type fastboot reboot to get back it system and try KingRoot again.
[Android General] JhonY22:
Plz Help

I have a 4 Pixi "6"

And I really need a ROM stock, I post I damaged my ROM.

model 8050E

Alcatel OneTouch Recovery software did not help me, because it only updates the ROM and mine is already updated. Only a message

"Your phone is already up to date"

Please help me...

:crying: :( :eek:
[Android General] kirito9:
Ahh interesting, I'll check that out.

Restore your data before CM13 and format the data partition. I highly doubt your boot.img is corrupted.
[Android General] Luigi333:
Help me

[MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION]

Im not spaming please help me
[Android General] maw-xda:
Restored TWRP backup of stock, formatted data, stuck at Alcatel boot screen for 16 minutes now.

OK, I've got the boot.img and system.img I pulled from stock (I've also got recovery.img from stock). I tried earlier, flashing these via adb and also TWRP, but nothing. At what point should I give up? Before I throw the towel in, what might I be overlooking?

Thanks again, [MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION]
[Android General] kirito9:
So are you asking if it works on this Pixi 4 (5) that you're posting about? I'm confused.
[Android General] kirito9:
Hmm, there's another way to flash the images and it's via SPFT. Not something I tried before on these Pixi 4 devices but worth a shot, shouldn't be that different from the other Pixi 3 devices. Do you have teamviewer?
[Android General] maw-xda:
Can install it

---------- Post added 13th December 2016 at 12:01 AM ---------- Previous post was 12th December 2016 at 11:58 PM ----------

Yeah, installed it.
[Android General] kirito9:
PM me your info.
[Android General] rafaelmr:
Sound problem

Thank you for your work. The ROM works well in my smartphone, but the sound is very very low.
[Android General] maw-xda:
I did, but not showing in sent items. Let me know if you've not got it.

Many thanks [MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION]
[Android General] kirito9:
I got it but having some connection problems, give me a couple more mins.
[Android General] kirito9:
CM 13? Try using audio mods.
[Android General] Luigi333:
Alcatel pixi 4 (5) model 5045j
[Android General] kirito9:
Check PM.
[Android General] kirito9:
I'm sorry, I don't follow. Are you trying to root? ROMs? What? :/
[Android General] Luigi333:
Im trying root and roms
[Android General] kirito9:
Ok, your device is MT6735. Checkout the useful links on the 2nd page and get most of the stuff. There is already a custom recovery available for the 5045D but your device is J and I'm not sure it will work for you.
[Android General] Luigi333:
Thanks
[Android General] Luigi333:
[MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION]

Which files do I have to download?

I don't know
[Android General] kirito9:
Install the adb drivers, download SP flash tool, MTK Droid Tools and Miracle Box.

It's basically a guide to backup your device. I'll edit the post and add the link. Also install the preloader drivers depending your Win version.

Edit : How to backup - https://forum.hovatek.com/thread-13347.html
[Android General] :
need help

Hello, I need the file "camera.mt6735m.so" from pixi 4 5 5045 in the carpet system / libs / hw , can you help me with that ??
[Android General] Luigi333:
Ok but which version of recovery do i have to download
[Android General] Curtis1973:
[MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION] : Tried Kingroot apk latest and PC version . Neither can touch it. In fact I have tried every android app for rooting. And every PC root method offered by the same app providers like Kongo,iroot,etc.. So root looks to be a ways off if ever. Only 3 requests at this point to Kingroot which means at that rate they'll never research it.
[Android General] Luigi333:
Sorry I wrote wrong which version of twrp I have to download
[Android General] kirito9:
How about Wondershare Mobile Go? Seems to be the new Kingroot but it installs SuperSU. [MENTION=7185243]bg260[/MENTION] rooted his device with this and it's easier to use than Kingroot.
[Android General] kirito9:
Did you make the backup? I do not want you yo flash anything without a backup so I won't give you any recovery to test as yet.
[Android General] Luigi333:
To fix some problem the mobile update works?
[Android General] bg260:
Here's the link.

http://mobilego.wondershare.com/

Windows program. Download the free version and install it. Run, choose trial version, plug the device in and select connect. Watch the device for the usb debugging prompt. After it connects select one-click root. Phone will reboot a couple times, watch for debugging prompt. Wait....Profit! It will install Supersu and a couple of other apps, but they are harmless compared to Kinguser!
[Android General] Luigi333:
Thanks but I need twrp for other things
[Android General] bg260:
Ooops. Quoted wrong member:eek:
[Android General] kirito9:
I'm not sure, check the MUS software.
[Android General] Luigi333:
Sorry
[Android General] maw-xda:
Stock ROM Pixi 4 (4034A) getakgt1

http://www.getakgt1.com/rom-stock-pixi-4-4034/

Flashed it to my 4034X via the TWRP recovery at the top of this thread. Works a dream for me. (Your mileage may vary. Use at your own risk.)

Many thanks to [MENTION=5515628]kirito9[/MENTION] for pointing me in the right direction, and for a great deal of other help in finding a solution.

Cheers.
[Android General] Luigi333:
What files should I select in the miracle box for my cell phone back to normal?