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[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
I'm not on 1.85 yet because when it first came out I did not find a "no red text" solution for it, as I had with the older FW in use. I thought about just putting up with the red text, and upgrading, but from what I had been reading, Viper, up until 4.x, works just fine on the older FW. So I hadn't really seen the need to update FW. I'm not what you might call an "early adopter" or "flashaholic". I try to hold off while others work out the kinks. Technology these days is full of enough unpleasant surprises without adding in the uncertainty of cutting edge changes. :) But it seems I need to update the FW now in order to boot N.

I've never noticed multirom mentioned before, so I don't know what that is. I'll see what I can find about it. Having asked about which version of rooting utility to choose, is it related to that? The FW I mentioned specifically says it isn't rooted, so that is why I am asking the best, most compatible with both MM ane N, rooting utility to flash. If there is a rooted version of 1.85 FW maybe I could get that and use it instead? But the one linked in the OP here is not rooted, as mentioned in line 1 of the OP. So I will need to root again if I use this FW.

edit - I found the Multirom HTC 10￿thread. Sounds interesting, and rather scary if it goes sideways, but I don't have a need to use more than one ROM at a time. I didn't see any mention of rooting, so I guess it isn't involved in doing so. But thanks for the suggestion. :) I'll keep it in mind for someday maybe.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
So you'd rather forgo any radio, camera, or other Hardware improvements for the sake of not having red text? Does that sound right?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Honestly, that had never occurred to me. :) But I'm working to fix it now, once I can find out from someone which root file I need to flash on the above mentioned firmware. Once I have that information, ￿I can upgrade the firmware and have those things. :)

It is good to see you still here. You helped me a lot initially, and then I saw your post that you were leaving indefinitely.

Thanks!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Yep....the annoying asshats got to me. Still around just snarkier than ever.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
You do know that the no red text mod is available for the latest firmware anyways.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
i saw u posted about this in venom thread too.

root is in the rom.. firmware doesn't have root.. or wont touch it anyway as it's in system.img (not in firmware)

and ruu (firmware AND ROM) could be rooted, but even then, if flashing venom, you choose your root option in aroma.

just update the firmware lol, ur making it way too difficult.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
how would you flash the radio? I have the img, just fastboot flash radio *radio.img*?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Yes while in white bootloader mode.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Gotcha
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
i see they got you. Anyways, as a learning experience from going to the us unlocked nougat and back to 1.85 vzw.

I would recommend turning advanced calling off prior to starting the process, it wont work right now until we have all the vzw components from nougat (dont know how well the custom roms like viper, ice, etc is working, so i may be off point)

If you want to go back to vzw for any reason afterward, it ended up screwing my sim up (it was probably me anyways), but it was a miserable process to get advanced calling/VOLTE working again as it was on my account, in my rom, and not functioning whatsoever. I think, in hindsite, this would would make it easier to get it re-enabled and working.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
So, turn off advanced calling before flashing 1.80 ruu? Or before OTA? And are you sure about 1.80? that's rather old..
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
The only way I could get to nougat was flashing the 1.80 us unlocked ruu.exe, (after changing cid to BS_US001) and ota to nougat. Every other ruu gave me a 150 error and wouldn't flash.

Once on nougat, flash your vzw radio, and set your radio by going to the *#*#4636#*#* menu and selecting LTE/CDMA, or anything containing those 2.

Then you will be good to go
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Would supercid work? Or only bs_us001?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Those of us who seriously appreciate all you have done, salute you! :good:

---------- Post added at 04:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:18 PM ----------

Yes, I just saw that recently. The reason I was set against the red text at first had to do with my fear I might need to let a VZW store tech look at the phone when I was having all the problems converting it. I figured the more I could do to hide the mods, the better. Each tech seems to have their own level of compassion and understanding, so I thought maybe some would be less inclined to slam the door on it than others, if it still looked stock. However, at this point, now that it is working fine, I am not so concerned about the red text anymore. But I just hadn't gotten around to updating the FW yet, since it wasn't something I "needed" to do.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
*Nevermind double post*
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Aha! Sorry, but yes......AGAIN....lol ...... however, this post just lit my lightbulb! I do NOT want to use one of the

RUU

choices here in the OP. I DO want to use the

FIRMWARE ONLY

at the link provided by Santod040 in post number 414. I had gotten derailed from that suggestion when others told me to check the Verizon Firmware thread for the correct firmware........ but there isn't a "firmware ONLY" listing here (except for the older version I already have)....... and your clarifying that firmware has no connection with being rooted finally shed light on what I need. Updating the firmware alone will LEAVE me rooted, and free to move on to 4.2.

The mention of SuperSU not booting 4.2 I posted earlier doesn't matter, because Viper 4.2 comes as an already rooted ROM file, with the other rooting technique baked in. Now I get it. :) Finally.

Sorry for being such a hardhead! :cyclops: lol I don't do this stuff often enough to be familiar with it.

Thank you so much!! :D :good:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Just updated to 1.85.605.8 from your link. Thank you very much! :) :good:
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Working flawlessly!!! thanks so much
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
So do you use a prepaid Verizon mvno, or are you on Verizon? I have a real Verizon acct, plus a straight talk vzw sim. If I didn't need Wi-Fi calling so much (I live in fringe coverage out in basically a gorge) I would be continuing to use this method. Glad it's working out for you
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Actually on Verizon :) also completely spaced disabling wifi/advanced calling before, so fingers crossed no issues arise (I think the Verizon store near me already hates me enough haha)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
So, if you want to go back to 1.85mm for any reason.

I would wipe data in twrp (nougat) prior to flashing RUU (1.85MM) because it won't boot with nougat data.

Set cid back to VZW__001 or if supercid your good

flash RUU

Test advance calling, if it works, great..if not wipe modems, still not, look into replacing sim
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
I had to set CID to bs_us001 as supercid (11111111) didn't work. Should I change CID back now or would it be redundant?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Pretty sure [MENTION=3472611]dottat[/MENTION] said once that supercid of 22222222 is better. Honestly, I'm not sure what would happen if cid was switched to non standard for your firmware
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lancespahr:
Hmm.. maybe I'll set to 22222222 when I get the chance. Thanks for the tip :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LovelessLane:
Hello

I have a unlocked variant converted to Verizon. I can't seem to connect to the Verizon network. The phone is telling me that I'm on network 3107.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
how did you convert it, did you just flash a verizon radio, or do the entire CID change, and flash stock VZW RUU?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LovelessLane:
I did the whole change over.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
download an app from the playstore called 4G Switcher, (red circle that looks like a power button), open it and set the radios to LTE/CDMA, then see if you get 4g. You might also need to erase the modems.

fastboot erase modemst1

fastboot erase modemst2

done in the bootloader (white background)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LovelessLane:
Thank you very much
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
did it work? or help?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LovelessLane:
It helped but I can't use the my Verizon app
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
ok, do you have VOLTE/advanced calling?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LovelessLane:
It seems to be enabled
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Does it work though?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
So after being an idiot and upgrading to 2.xx firmware and losing mobile data I am trying to downgrade to get data back. However, my PC doesn't see my phone when it is in download mode. I ran the exe, but I get a connection error on the reboot.

Anyways, I'm downloading the ruu.zip as well as reinstalling all of my ADB stuff. I don't know what format my SD card is (sandisk 200gb), so I don't know if I can safely flash via sd card even though it is my only option at this time unless the new ADB works.

Has anybody dealt with a similar issue? What did you do to fix it?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
Adb isn't going to do anything for you in Download Mode...

Go grab the htc_fastboot that is readily available with minimal searching and reading the multiple guides on here (hint: it's in the OP) and go from there using "fastboot", not adb.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
That's so strange, I wonder why everything worked previously. I must be getting all of this stuff mixed up, it's been a while.

I saw where it was talking about fastboot, but my PC loses the connection after this step. "Boot your phone to download mode and connect to PC"
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Make sure your PC has a driver installed when your phone is in download mode and connected
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
It says:

>Android USB Devices

---My HTC

I have a good feeling that's the wrong driver. I'm attempting to reinstall this driver > http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51845866&postcount=1

Additionally, when in download mode the bottom of the screen reads:

SD mounted

OTG not mounted

Sorry to be a pain, but I really appreciate you guys a lot more than clicking thanks shows.

Edit: Further uninstalled HTC stuff. Now my driver's show:

>Other devices

---HTC 10 (with the warning triangle)

I search my computer but for some reason motorolla drivers show up for composite ADB. Uninstalled the motorolla crap, no drivers show now.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
With device connected and command prompt open from the "fastboot" directory on your PC, what is the terminal output of the following command?

fastboot devices
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
C:\adb>fastboot
usage: fastboot [ <option> ] <command>

commands:
update <filename> reflash device from update.zip
flashall 'flash boot' + 'flash system'
flash <partition> [ <filename> ] write a file to a flash partition
erase <partition> erase a flash partition
getvar <variable> display a bootloader variable
boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] download and boot kernel
flash:raw boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] create bootimage and flash it
devices list all connected devices
reboot reboot device normally
reboot-bootloader reboot device into bootloader

options:
-w erase userdata and cache
-s <serial number> specify device serial number
-p <product> specify product name
-c <cmdline> override kernel commandline

C:\adb>devices
'devices' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Again he already told you adb won't work there. Plus it's adb devices. Not devices.

Do

Fastboot devices
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
Fastboot devices doesn't do anything. I was following the guide here > http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2277112

I, more than likely, did something wrong. I followed those instructions and put my fastboot.exe in with my ADB tools.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
If it doesn't show any devices you either need to unplug and replug, check drivers, move to a different port, or flash back the vzw firmware to your device.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
That's exactly what I want to do, flash the VZW firmware here in this thread (1.85.605.8). Going to the 2.xx is where my problems started.

The SD card method seems to be the only option at this point, but it is formatted to whatever the device set. So there's too much risk.

I'm going to try the exe again to see if any of my program uninstallation and restarts helped. I have tried a couple cables and a few ports. Drivers and the new firmware seem to be the key issue.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
If you get no answer from fastboot devices the exe will not be able to overcome that.

Your sd card isn't formatted to fat32.

Get another sd card and format it to fat 32 and use that to flash the firmware.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skatin707:
I've got a spare 16gb that'll work.

After watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ACU3RGm9YI) I learned that I can format it with the phone to fat 32 (time = 2:37 for mentioning formatting).

Card is formatted, data being transferred. Going to give this a go.

I have the following on the SD card:

1.85 RUU zip renamed per thread instructions

TWRP 3.0.2-6

SuperSU 2.71

ViperRom (which worked fine before my dumb self upgraded firmware)

Edit: Flashed the zip, it worked. Had to factory reset my phone, but that is absolutely okay with me.

You're a lifesaver man!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
No reason to flash superuser. It's pre-loaded in viper
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
One thing that solved a lot of my problems with this sort of thing - after you get the HTC drivers installed, uninstall the listing in installed programs on your PC for "HTC Sync". It will cause all sorts of PC connection issues to your phone if you leave it installed. But leave the installed drivers (separate program listing) in place.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robbierob03:
I know this is a simple question that has to have been asked before, but I'm not finding the right keywords. I'm s-off, rooted, and on a custom rom and want to take the ota. My question is simply do I use the RUU for my current firmware version, or for the updated version I want?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
The choice is yours....
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] iondokk:
Saved my butt from stupidity! Thanks...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] swebb76:
Hey everyone. I have the Verizon HTC 10 s-off, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I screwed up the radio and trying to revert back to stock - used the SD card method and it looked like it worked, but now just keeps rebooting. Am I supposed to unroot, relock and s-on before doing this? Thanks for any input and Merry Christmas!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
No. Do not lock. Do not turn s on. Just flash the full ruu and factory reset.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] swebb76:
Ok, I'll try that. I flashed the thing, but didn't do the factory reset after flashing, so maybe that was the issue. I think I originally screwed it up by flashing Supersu and killing the radio. Trying to get back to the Viper10 rom, so hopefully it will work this time. Thanks for your help!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattie_49:
Just wanted to share for anyone trying to return to stock by means of ruu to reaquire LTE data. Happened to me after messing with different Nougat roms-Ruu only and factory reset didn't work for me even on stock Android recovery. I also had to wipe modem1 and 2 through fastboot. Hope this saves someone some time (fastboot wipe modem1 ,etc). After reboot LTE /4g data returned.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Yep. This has been stated before. Last phone to have this function was the m8. M9 didn't wipe modems on factory reset either. The only reason the factory reset request is still around for us on Verizon as it pertains to ruu flashing is that our ruu are unlike the rest of the world in that they do not wipe. So you can flash the ruu and still not have the phone boot because of old ROM data.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Brutal getting back, isn't it
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattie_49:
Got excited that it was you that responded. Not seen you here on xda much anymore. I've used your stuff since my m8 years ago and now on my 10. Truly thanks for all you've done. (for free) Merry Christmas friend.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
What he said ^^^ dottat! Hope you are well, and have a Happy New Year!!!
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lordnihilusmd:
Any news about the nougat RUU ?? RUU is the only way for the users outside US to get Nougat
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
Nougat isn't out yet for Verizon..
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] legaldeejay:
Hi, is the RUU for 1.85.605.9 going to be posted here?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Yes. Will be.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] legaldeejay:
ETA?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahowe125:
Come on man, don't disrespect the man like that. When they are ready, you will see them. That's like the number one rule around here.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdamark:
Wrong question... :(
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kgirlx:
No wonder why contributors leave cause of people asking **** like this constantly. Un****in real.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattie_49:
Verizon firmware hasn't even dropped yet. Why are people asking for an ETA on this thread. ?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
For funsies. I think we should all demand it now.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Well I demand taco kisses and more yuengling posted in the O.P.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
You know we have a resident taco vendor right [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Tacos and yuengling might fix my current problem
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
What I find ironic about those who pose the strictly verboten eta question on here probably have no idea that it is taboo, because they have likely never read any single thread from cover to cover. Maybe you could build a script into XDA that rejects any new post as soon as it sees "ETA" in it, especially if it comes from someone with a low post count. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] legaldeejay:
Sorry, you're right. My pnone is nagging me to update to 1.85.605.9 which is out now, and I would rather wait for the RUU to be posted here than take the OTA update.

Is there any advantage to installing the RUU here instead of just doing the OTA update if I am already rooted and S-Off?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] santod040:
None, except ota will fail if currently rooted...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] legaldeejay:
OK thanks
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Uploading the new RUU now...
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Latest is now in the OP.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
thank you guy
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] legaldeejay:
Thank you
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ryknow27:
This isn't nougat firmware, is it?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattie_49:
This is where the official will be released when Verizon gets to crackin. 1.85 = mm/outta check out the op
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
When the Nougat version finally does appear, how will the numbering in the name change? Not very familiar with this, so would like to know. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdamark:
2.XX.605.X is about all that can be guessed at this time.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ryknow27:
Thanks for the reply! I did read through the OP but didn't see where it stated if the new one was still MM or not and I tried Google as well but couldn't really come up with anything. Probably should have figured it out when all I saw was security updates.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
OK, thanks! I'll watch for the first digit changing from 1 to 2. :)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
By that time everyone else will be going onto 3 And 4
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdamark:
Yep, I'd imagine so. ;)
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoandroid:
Yup!

But the thing is, in this rural area where we live our lives, Verizon has proven time and again to be the only cell carrier with a dependable signal everywhere we go. So, we sell our souls to the devil to have consistent coverage. :) We must be smack in the middle of that "1 %" difference that T-Mobile likes to say they almost cover. :D Fortunately, we have these wonderful developers here on XDA that make a Verizon phone as close as it can get to keeping up with the Joneses. Thanks guys!! Without you we would still be banging on hollow logs out here. lol
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdamark:
I'm in the same spot. Verizon is the only carrier in my area with a solid 4G signal, literally 1G for all the others. I'm still on an unlimited data plan from years back, so changing carriers is not really an option.
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] -4ndr01d-:
ok, I have downloaded the latest RUU for verizon twice. each one, using the sdcard method end in a 33 RU_UPDATE_FIRMWARE_FAIL FAIL33 error

anyone experience this? I cannot get this flash successfully or know what this error means
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] michaelbsheldon:
Try a different micro SD card with Verizon RUU file named 2PS6IMG.zip?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dottat:
Gotta be something on your end. I used this file myself using the SD card method with no issue. Is your mid/CID set to Verizon?
[Verizon HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdamark:
...also make sure your file extension is not hidden. "2PS6IMG.zip.zip" will fail.

Running out of ideas...

Did you get it working? [MENTION=4566628]-4ndr01d-[/MENTION]