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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I see what you mean by that and mines not like that they all match, so I'd be careful what you flash because mine doesn't look like that.. But, since you have the SM-N920C firmware you should be capable of rooting that phone and flashing any roms that are available for it but rooting will trip your knox counter..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] kuldeepsinght:
I wouldn't want to trip knox. Guess will have to live with MM:crying:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rolfsted:
Note 7 out in August? Dang I just got the 5?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] BubbaRob1978:
Went back to Lollipop, no issues. Thanks again MrMike. Should I take the OTA updates leading up to Marshmallow but not including it, or just stay on the downloaded firmware from Sammobile?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
The OTA is going to take you right back to Marshmallow 6.0.1 if you accept it because it doesn't send them in order from 1st to last. It's just going to go right to Marshmallow 6.0.1! But I have figured out that if you do a clean install (Nothing of yours on the phone, no account's no fingerprint - Nothing!!), and then take the OTA and after it's done installing it factory reset for good measure and then add your stuff to it and then the battery life can reach 10 hours SOT because that's what I'm getting regularly with a lot of apps disabled and auto sync turned off (I just check my email a few times a day anyway) because auto sync keeps checking way to much and in developer options I have it set to "no more than 4 background processes", and the animation turned off and my phone simply flies and has great battery on MM 6.0.1 now I have the screen turned down to like half and everything is just perfect!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] BubbaRob1978:
Ok got it!! Thanks for the info. So far it's great! I also disabled the animations in the developer options and it switching between screens is amazingly fast. I'm gonna try lollipop for a few days and if I don't notice the old results I got with it, I'll do what you suggested above.

Enjoy your weekend.

Rob
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
You're welcome!! Have a great weekend!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Tophaholic:
Thanks OP. Worked great. Am amazed at how good the battery life is with lollipop. Another tip.. Use a package Disabler to get rid of the system update notification. IM gonna stay on lollipop till Samsung gets their act together on marshmallow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] italbomber:
Thanks Mike. Worked great. Much appreciated for the time you spent on it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
You're welcome bro!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] supreme83:
From PM>

a vulnerability has to be found, through various means, and then su binary or binaryless exploit method created. Some of these newer samsungs are going to require a binary-less/non-system root optionm as they won't boot when system partion edited and/or binary modified. It's doubtful we would be able to just open up a stock image and just insert the binary on any phone but one with unlocked bootloaders and easily editable system partition with no type of security checks. And all of that is moot as this is a Verizon Note 5 phone with a locked bootloader and plenty of security, par the course, so yeah, no just putting su binary files in a stock tar and it magically making the impossible possible
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pimpmaneaton:
It has been so long since I have had 5.1.1 on my note 5 I don't really remember the differences. Are there any benefits to it besides battery life?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
I've never just removed my account on my phone. How exactly do I do that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Tap settings then Accounts and say if you have a Google account, tap the Google account and then again 1 more time and look up in the upper right corner and you'll see 'More' tap it and then Remove Account.. Do the same for others.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
I managed to downgrade. Now to start testing battery life. It's gotten so bad on MM that I could watch the battery % drop every time I turned the screen on.

My wife and I were at a concert Saturday night. We both left the house at 100% battery. Mine was draining much faster than hers and she was even using hers while mine stayed in my pocket. In just about 2 hours mine had 10% less battery than hers did. We are both on MM at the time. If battery life doesn't improve with Lollipop maybe there is just something wrong with my device?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] venom831:
Thank you for posting this. Since upgrading my VZW N5, I've been plagued with issues such as the sim card randomly disconnecting, and apps unable to connect to the Internet, even when I have film service, and Bluetooth connection sorry at best. Email doesn't update, voicemail consistently gives me errors, etc. I will be trying this as soon as I can today.

The firmware you posted is for the 920V right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Yes this is for the 920V
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Give the phone at least 1 week to pick up your habits and you'll see the battery start to last longer than it does in the beginning. The other thing is, if you are using package disabler and you disable something you shouldn't, you won't see this unless you logcat but from my Linux box when I opened logcat it started flying by the screen with errors so fast I couldn't read it but as soon as I force stopped package disabler after re-enabling all the apps it stopped but since I had 217 apps disabled I don't know which one was causing it but you can bet that was killing the battery and no I'm not trying to beat on package disabler it's a good app, when used correctly.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] venom831:
Thank you guys. I finished reverting back to the OJ3 firmware earlier, and I am in the process of restoring all my apps and files using Helium (great app for non-rooted users to back up app data). Hopefully Verizon or Samsung will fix the connection issues so we can start truly enjoying MM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Are there any settings under "Developer Options" that would be good to change? I changed Window animation, Transistion, and Animator to 0.5x
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Not really.. The only thing that's good for, for me anyway is a bug report.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Battery life has not improved. I can see that the phone does run smoother on Marshmallow so I am using helium to make a back up of my apps. I will then factory reset phone. Then upgrade to MM and hope that it gets better. If not then I will be tied to a charger until I can upgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] njdan30:
I just purchased this note 5 today because it had frp lock which original owner couldn't get reactivated I Pretty much just downgraded firmware to bpc2 and did the firmware glitch no cables no special USB device just WiFi only needed. I'm about to try to downgrading to 5.1.1 because battery life sux right now. Anyways thanks for info
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Battery life stayed about the same. My Note 5 performance on Lollipop was bad. Screen and apps stuttered. Slow response to apps as well. SOT stayed about 3.5 hours so either my battery has issues or it's just me. I upgraded back to MM and factory reset before and after. Same battery life. Guess next time I will just wait for a phone with removable battery or eventually leave Verizon and go back to where I can root my phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I'm not sure why some people are having bad battery life and others aren't. I've given people ways to get great battery life and I think either you're using something that's killing the battery in the background that you just can't see or you just have a bad battery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Now I have randomly closing on me so I am trying to figure out Helium so that I can recover faster from a factory reset. I use my "phone" a lot so this is a little annoying. While on Lollipop I did not use package disabler at all. On MM I have not installed it either.

If it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
If you have apps that are randomly closing that would mean something isn't right and in the background where you can't see it's scrolling away into a log file saving it. Problem is without root you can't fully access the logs. But it will sit there and continuously scroll over and over in the background and that causes battery drain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] b4u2:
Are your suggestions all in this thread? At this point I am willing to try just about anything. I bought a fast charger to keep at work, in my camper, and in my truck. I need to buy one for my Harley for long road trips as well. I feel like I'm back on my first smart phone except that I can't take the battery out and swap it. Those were the good ole days lol. I always had at least two spare batteries.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
After reading all your posts I'm more inclined to tell you to send it in cause there must be something wrong with it.. After you factory reset the first thing I do is go right to the Apps and go to ALL and then open them one by one and whichever can be uninstalled will be anything that can be Disabled will be but anything else leave it alone don't use Package Disabler to hide/force stop it because there's a reason you couldn't stop it in the normal app settings and forcing it to via another app is going to cause issues. And don't rush to throw all your apps and everything back on it right away just go about that a little slower to make sure you're not using an app that's killing the battery. So don't run to restore any backups asap.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] tarmiszitarhim:
Greeting Sir .. Since I Update 9208 (XME) from 5:11 to 6.0.1. My phone can not connect to the network 4g lte, battery consumption is also quite severe. No problem with my network operator. I've tried following the steps that have been host state in this forum, but it did not work. How do I downgrade to 5.1.1. For your information, there are 5 major upgrade to 5.1.1 and 3 major upgrade to 6.0.1. Do I have to downgrade stages of the latest firmware to an older firmware. Any help that you gave me is very much appreciated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
You need to download the correct firmware for the SM-9208. Try this.

https://samsung-firmware.org/model/SM-N9208/region/XME/

And then follow the instructions but use the SM-9208 firmware.

It should not matter which version you flash or in which order.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] yurais:
Will this method work on PF3 ?

and what if phone is already locked with FRP ? and stuck in the activation screen? should I attempt downgrade ? since there is no way to access the OEM Unlock option...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] rishabhbhatia36:
Hey MrMike,

I used your guide, and am currently flashing Lollipop via odin. After my phone restarts what steps should i do next to get the battery life that you have? 6 days is insane. Please guide me on what to do next! Thanks!

Update: It said pass on ODIN and i disconnted the phone and held the volume down and power button but nothing happened, it just restarted and stays on the samsung boot screen for ages... i tried reflashing many times and the same problem! need help! Phone is not booting past the samsung logo. Didn't see an option anywhere to factory reset the phone, i think that seems to be the problem.

after PASS in odin i disconnected the cable and tried holding down the buttons it says installing system update followed by "erasing" and then continues with the boot... but i cant seem to get an option to reset the phone. please help!

Also I'm not sure if this matters but the Blue LED stays on all the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
After you hold the power button and volume down button for 7 seconds when it turns off and back on again you should see a factory reset option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] rishabhbhatia36:
okay so right after PASS shows up on odin, the phone remains on the downloading screen, it doesn't switch off. I then hold volume down and power button and it restarts and the android green bot comes up with installing system update and erasings.. from there it goes on into an endless bootloop. The only thing i can do then is go into download mode.. not even recovery
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Then you're using the wrong firmware.. I suggest you download smart switch from Samsung and use the emergency recovery option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] witty2309:
Galaxy Note 5 SM-N9208.

Hello.

This didn't work for me, I downloaded N9208ZZT2APC1 from your suggested website, followed your instructions to the letter. Where it all goes wrong is the " hold volume down and power button", nothing happens when I do this!

So eventually when the phone boots back up in Lollipop the note 5 does not see my SIM, this immediately is resolved when reverting back to Marshmallow via Smartswitch. Any ideas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
How long are you holding the power button and the volume down button for? You need to hold it for 7 to 10 seconds.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] witty2309:
Note 5 sm-n9208

Hi.

Much longer than that, even after about a minute nothing happens! So after reboot I clear the cashe, then when the phone reboots again, I have Lollipop 5.1.1 running, select language screen. Now then, if it's Lollipop there's no way that the phone detects the SIM! As soon as I give in and put Marshmallow back on again via Odin, and after the select language screen, the phone immediately detects my SIM card.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
The sim card doesn't get detected on mine until I go all the way through the options and then on the activation page it turns on. Maybe your phones software is different.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] witty2309:
Note 5 sm-n9208

Well, I don't think so as I have downgraded to Lollipop from Marshmallow before a few months back, and everything worked fine. Now it doesn't matter what I've tried, once I try to go back to Lollipop the phone will simply not detect the SIM card. I should point out that the only reason I went back to Lollipop is that it works with my VW car Sat nav via rSAP connection, after the phone is rooted of course. Marshmallow will not connect even after rooting. After I downgraded the last time I forgot to switch off auto update!!!

I thought it would be a breeze to just get rid of Marshmallow, go back to Lollipop, connect via rSAP and all would be rosie... no such luck! If anyone could help, it would be much appreciated. My hunch is that Samsung have done something with their latest update for the SM-N9208 to prevent downgrading.

Best Regards.

Ian.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
That's what I meant by the firmware! When you take the updates it's simply because they changed something to prevent us from doing certain things i.e downgrading.. Or they've done bug fixes "unlikely".. I would try taking the sim card out and then flashing the firmware and after you go through the first part of the install put it back in.. in some cases you'll have to downgrade to the first MM firmware and then downgrade again to the Lollipop..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] witty2309:
Good idea.

That's something worth trying! Put the 1st version of Marshmallow on, then downgrade, I'll give it a go next time I get a day off! fingers crossed! Thanks muchly.

Ian.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] witty2309:
Didn't work either!

Well, I spent all day Sunday trying to downgrade from the 1st version of Marshmallow to Lollipop and no luck! After I set the phone up having Lollipop up and running, the phone just will not detect my SIM! So I wasted the whole day trying every which way, including newer, older versions of both Op systems only to revert back to the latest Marshmallow, and guess what? My SIM was detected instantly after boot up.

Yawn.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] wooddale:
So there is no way to downgrade to lolipop. How about modems can I flash a modem from Lollipop to try and get better data signal. My data ducks here on 6.0. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
No you can't just flash the Lollipop modem while being on MM 6.0! The phone will not boot like that. Why are you not able to downgrade?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] wooddale:
Thank you for Quick reply I read the last few posts and the guy said he wasn't able to down grade because he was on a newer Version of MM and tried downgrading and phone wouldn't recognize sim. What do I need to be on and what do I need to downgrade to. I have the list of all the ota's. Thanks for any information you can give me.

---------- Post added at 08:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 PM ----------

Mike I'm so sorry I Googled downgrading note 4 and I was so excited I found it I didn't see it said note 5. No wonder I wasn't understanding about all the updates lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
LOL, it's cool. Accidents happen it's no big deal. At least you figured it out!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jordanrock618:
Confirming that downgrading from mm 6.0.1 with Android Security Patch Level September 1, 2016 to lollipop is a no go. Phone is vzw..After cm.bin executes, it just says FAIL! they made the word FAIL! get all up in your face too only to depress you from not being able to have a real phone again.....grr

If anyone has any ideas that don't mess up the sim card, I am in to try them. Can't keep going about my day charging my phone every 4 hours, and power saver isn't really an option, makes the phone way too slow for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] njdan30:
have anyone tried downgrade to older android 6 before attempting to go to android 5.1.1 yet?

sent from my Verizon note 3 running 6.0.1 TouchWiz

---------- Post added at 10:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

I did similar for frp lock bypass .

I know it sux doing extra download and Odin flash but worth a shot no?

sent from my Verizon note 3 running 6.0.1 TouchWiz
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] wooddale:
Good thought makes sense.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JerseyFF:
What was the original build, prior to downgrade that was being used by the OP?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I was using N920VVRU2AOGJ... But if you've taken the latest update which is N920VVRS3BPI1 then I don't know if you can go downgrade back because I recall seeing someone say that they couldn't do it anymore so if you're going to try I'd make sure to have N920VVRS3BPI1 downloaded also just in case.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheMadScientist:
Any one know of a way to downgrade without a usb port. Or upgrade in that fact
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Without root and a custom recovery, I'm not sure this is possible unless you use Bluetooth to get the update onto your phone and then booting into recovery and selecting apply update... Which I think is going to fail saying something about no SD card found. It also says apply update from adb but I don't even think you could use the wireless adb app to do that because the phone would need to be on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheMadScientist:
about what i figured. im on pd4 and it says im updated. i have a wifi file transfer setup i was trying various methods of applying "bogus" updates throught stock recovery but like said no sd card found.

im not to worried about it. i disabled most of the bloat i got it running as decently as possible without root. just wonderin if therer wasnt anything i tried already.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Try renaming whichever one you want to use to "Update.zip" and make sure it's actually a zip file and then place it in (using root explorer) go to the root section and then look for "sdcard" and copy Update.zip into it and then reboot to recovery and see if it tries to use it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheMadScientist:
cant find any valid .zip updates only tar.files only for odin.

can flashfire pull somthin like that off. nm no root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Just try changing it from .tar to .zip or use an application to zip it again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JollyMcFarty:
When I download the firmware, do I get full firmware or kernel?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Freakyd9984@gmail.com:
It's their anyway to down grade from MARSHMALLOW N920VVRS3BPPI1 To Lollipop ? Has anyone figured it out yet thank you if anyone could help me out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
No it's to late sorry! I even posted a warning not to take that upgrade if you ever thought you might want to go back to Lollipop because it's not going to happen until we find an exploit!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] chester_00:
I Have this version on my Verizon Note 5

N920VVRS3BQA1

So, this method will work on my device?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Nope to late it's been blocked by Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] gregcapps:
You can't automatically assume this was done by Verizon. Samsung is tightening security on their devices and it could very well be due to changes they made in the bootloader and kernel when Knox was updated last.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I'm actually certain that it's Verizon that's locking the phones down like this and blocking us from doing downgrades and how do I know this? Friend Nicole works there as T3 support tech!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] utopiaofunlimited:
have 6.0.1 marshmellow

Would this method of reverting back to lollipop work on the update 6.0.1 with baseband version N920VVRU2BPB2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
Yes. But if it doesn't for some reason just make sure you have the same N920VVRU2BPB2 firmware to reflash if something goes wrong
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] utopiaofunlimited:
I don't care about triggering Knox or even uninstalling or samsung pay. I want to block ads from my apps and be able run navigation applications without problems and ads. Can i still root lollipop 5.1.1 after downgrading?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] HypostaticOnion:
I don't think you can downgrade also we never found a way to root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Utopiaofunlimited1:
already down graded from 6.0.1

have already downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
He was capable of downgrading because he never took the update that would prevent him from doing it that's all..

And to answer the root question no it's not possible because like [MENTION=4253404]tylerlawhon[/MENTION] said we never found a way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
I'm going to assume you forgot your password or something since you had to make another account with a 1 at the end lol..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] gregcapps:
The phone can't be rooted. It will brick when the bootloader is modified.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
And who told you that?! Getting root doesn't necessarily mean one needs to modify the bootloader.. There is systemless root for a reason.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] gregcapps:
That was my understanding from reading the forums, I was unaware of any systemless root. What does that type of root allow??
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] dave28658:
What im wondering is this on the sm-g935v

I unlocked the bootloader and rooted phone id like to try with the note and it so happens i have the sm-n920v

So what i will do is down load stock rom

And pit and see what happens
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] miguel_m88:
Does this require root?

I was reading that the root process requires OS 5.1.1 and I am on 6.0.1 so I want to go back to 5.1.1 to get twrp recovery and use a custom rom. Please forgive me moderators I am new to the forums.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] ramiss:
There is no root process for this phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] miguel_m88:
sorry..

Sorry, I replied on the wrong thread. I was initially on the downgrade thread for the Verizon note 4 sm-n910v and I have no idea how I ended up replying here. cheers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] mkshekhar108:
Hey..can you solve the same problem in HTC desire 820 dual sim phone??