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[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
True that, but for real this time lol. We will all see if this ends up being true so it will speak for itself. If it's not true then I will gladly accept that since I don't want to see current 6P owners get the shaft. [emoji106]
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
LOL - what are you even on about? Putting words in my mouth doesn't help prove your point. I've never said people aren't experiencing real issues (like they do with any device), and I've admitted that I think the bending/twisting/whatever is something that shouldn't be happening. But again, you're exaggerating and being overdramatic.

The article you're referring to like it's some damning write-up on nexus 6P issues - mentions (4) issues - let's have a look:

Easily bent

Spontaneous cracking of the glass visor

Low volume

Video playback problem

...which the article states right after listing those that "We know most of them have been fixed already".

How many of those are issues are plaguing users? Please elaborate on all these huge nexus 6P issues - I'd like to see your list.

You're basing your argument on an article that named four issues then said that most of them were fixed. And three of them have hardly been posted about in this forum or anywhere I've seen.

And I'm not sure about the whole geekbench thing. When have they ever put a nexus variant out like this? I guess we'll see. I'd welcome it, it'd give me another option.
[Nexus 6P General] i42o:
You guys need to St*u. Sound like idiots.
[Nexus 6P General] myprecious27:
Every time I buy a new phone I read about people having issues with it. There never was a phone without any issues - strangely my phones always work well:) The only complaint I have about nexus 6p is the ****ty DAC.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
We applaud your contribution to the thread. Please stick around.
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
I have the speaker issue, people cannot hear me when they call me :( I have to send back my nexus 6p to google

I gotta admit I would all over a nexus 6p with a snapdragon 820 and 4 gb of ram , the 820 is quite more efficient than the 810, so also better battery life without increasing the capacity of the battery itself !
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
That sucks! Sorry to hear. :(
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
I don't have any issues.

If they do release a 6P with the 820, it just means they wanted to update to a faster processor.

That has nothing to do with anything else.
[Nexus 6P General] sherlock5545:
I doubt they'd release a phone now, less than six months before their usual new Nexus lineup schedule.
[Nexus 6P General] twisterdroid:
The 32GB N6P is sort of at $399 right now (B&H is selling them for $449 with a $50 gift card) so maybe Google is testing sales at that price.

Perhaps Google intends to keep the 6P in the lineup with the HTC offerings being smaller devices? Then it would make sense to update the 6P to the 820.
[Nexus 6P General] daevion0:
What if HTC is making the smaller Nexus. Haven't most of their latest flagship phones been 5.5 and under?
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Yes they have been smaller. That would sux for those of us that have been enjoying the larger real estate. :(:eek::mad:
[Nexus 6P General] daevion0:
Get the the 2016 Nexus 6p then.
[Nexus 6P General] AndrasLOHF:
Absolutely. The throttling and Bluetooth issues are real and anybody saying otherwise is talking out of their arse. The phone constantly stutters over itself when trying to use it while charging due to thermal throttling. This phone also has the most stuttering I've heard when paired with my Jaybirds BluebudsX. I can barely put my hand next to my phone when it's on my holster in the gym without it cutting out.

That said.... Still love this phone more than any other I've had. All phones have issues.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
No need to encourage him.
[Nexus 6P General] grover5:
Not mine. Sorry I don't get overheating and I don't have Bluetooth or lag issues. It is what it is. I haven't had issues with my 6p.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
All options will be on the table when the time comes....
[Nexus 6P General] neo905:
I just got this phone this week. I have Jaybird BlueBuds, a Sony Smartwatch 3 and an HTC Bluetooth AUX car dongle I used with my old phone. I was worried after reading about all these bluetooth issues people were having. So far the 6P has been flawless connecting to all three. I've had zero issues bluetooth wise. I haven't had any stuttering either. This phone is way smoother and doesn't get nearly as hot as my M9 got with the same usage. Whatever "throttling" they have or haven't done hasn't affected my user experience so far at all.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
I ran both encrypted and unencrypted for a couple weeks each and I know this isn't the majority opinion around here, but the difference in real world performance was obvious. Definitely felt lag while encrypted, especially when opening certain apps.
[Nexus 6P General] 83097markcynt:
I would welcome a smaller phone. I love my 6p but find it's size a hindrance at times.
[Nexus 6P General] Reuben_skelz92:
Wiseguy still trolling on 6p threads I see. Company's taken time an effort to make a new 6p isn't because of flaws. Its to make more money without having to do much. They will keep it same design..maybe slightly stronger. Stick in an extra GB of ram and the SD 820 and we will come running. Few months later they will release the next nexus most likely from htc...and we will come running. Profit
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
My 6P is great and if possible I'll get an updated version, mostly because I want better battery

Sent from a mobile gadget
[Nexus 6P General] bigblueshock:
Given the 2 year trend on Google releasing two size phones (5, 6... 5x, 6p), I'm sure HTC will proceed the same way for their upcoming Nexus line.

HTC did have the HTC One M7 Max, but that flopped. Timing was quite off. I wouldn't worry, I'm sure there will be a larger phone. :)
[Nexus 6P General] blinde:
HTC will most propably make the cheaper Nexus like 5x, while Huawei makes the more premium model.
[Nexus 6P General] Puck24:
I saw that pic last week and the author specifically pointed out that this leak is about the upcoming HTC Nexus phones.

They just masked the name with the 6P name and build
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Wonder how many people with technical problems are on custom Roms or kernels. Either way I don't have lag or stutters. BT seems to work just fine for the devices I've paired it to. I've had some spotiness on some custom Roms but stock is rock solid 90% of the time for me. BT on Android as a whole has been garbage for years. It's def not the device but Android. As far as issues with this phone, it's been my favorite Nexus device to date. It's nice to have a phone where corners weren't cut hardware wise to keep costs down. Going forward ID imagine that Google will be releasing two devices for awhile every year. It's unprecedented for them to release an updated version half way through the life cycle of its current line up. If either of the phones will get an early upgrade it will be the 5x as it's been a lackluster phone IMHO. HTC can close up shop and not make the new Nexus. If they do get the nod most likely it will not be the premium device in the line up. My best guess is that Huawei will get another opportunity since the 6p has been so highly praised. If it's not Huawei then Google will be building the phone in house as that's the direction they seem to be heading which will be amazing. So get ready folks.... This could be the last year that Google partners with someone to develop a Nexus. Unless they make one in house and one partnered with a company.
[Nexus 6P General] md1008:
I would be really sad if HTC didn't make a phablet Nexus :(. I love HTC but I haven't even considered them as their phones are too small for my liking
[Nexus 6P General] crash_194:
I feel the same, I have always been a fan of HTC's sense user interface but I just find the screens too small for what I use a phone for.

The Nexus 6P has found a real sweet spot with me in terms of screen size. The OnePlus two has an equally nice screen also but the software is crap.

Even though I've only just bought my 6P I can't wait to see what the next Nexus brings!
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
They have a new Nexus practically every November in recent years. I fully expect updated phones in November. This is not because of design flaws, it's what they do.

Nexus One Jan 2010 (the odd one out)

Nexus S Dec 2010

Galaxy Nexus Nov 2011

Nexus 4 Oct 2012

Nexus 5 Nov 2013

Nexus 6 Nov 2014

Nexus 6p/5x Nov 2015

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] AhhdafunK01:
Sinceriously ( Cf Stephen Amell), if there is only one thing who affraid me with this phone is the soc...

I've already experienced it on my OnePlus 2 and it's crappy.

Actually, on my honor 7, I miss power :( So an "updated version" of the 6P ( for 500/64gb ) would be AWESOME !
[Nexus 6P General] EarlZ:
As a current 6P owner and I bought a gold version and sold my graphite, I would be very sad if a new version with a 'proper' SoC came out. On day to day use the 810 is a blast but there are in some situations that you can really feel the thermal throttle and stutters.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Qualcomm severely messed up the 810. It's performance is average at best.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Lol? When it was released it was a flagship cpu, look how much time has passed, of course its not up there with the best anymore. Real problem is power hunger and heat
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
When it was released it had major overheating problems. Qualcomm rushed it out so they had a 64bit chip in the market and in doing so messed up its design.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Thats what i said, heat and power consumption problems. You said performance was bad, which is nonsense lol.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I hardly ever feel heat.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] RHChan84:
I had my phone record a 4k video for 20 mins and it got warm but not bad.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Performance isn't the best because it throttles at a lower temperature and heavily thus performance is bad. All caused by Qualcomms poor design. You're getting into semantics.

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Because it starts throttling at around 45deg C. It then proceeds to turn off cores at around 50. It doesnt get warm because of this. With day to day general use you'll hardly notice it, try playing a game or using the phone for anything more powerful and you'll run into issues.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
You can tell me it's throttling all you want, phone is wicked fast.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
He's not talking about how fast the phone is or isn't under normal usage. He's talking about intense games and similar usage when the CPU throttles and slows things down.

This is easily the most entertaining board on XDA, which I think is what always brings me back lol. [emoji4]
[Nexus 6P General] EarlZ:
Its not really about feeling how hot the device it, its the CPU temp that gets to hot and throttles down so fast.
[Nexus 6P General] 83097markcynt:
Interesting statement.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I've got my reasons, but it definitely is! [emoji12]
[Nexus 6P General] Reuben_skelz92:
Not being funny but trolls like wizeguydezingnz makes me laugh. He says its entertaining...yet he spends most of his time commenting about how every 6p bends on all the bend threads when he doesn't have the phone.....now that's entertaining
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I've never said anything of the sort....at all. And your response is one of many reasons why this board is so entertaining.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I play games sometimes, never noticed performance issues. Have you guys actually used the 6P?

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P[/QUOTE]

It's my daily phone and I've had it since a few weeks after release. Its performance is ok but it has issues with aggressive throttling, try even loading a CPU monitor app, and download a few apps from the Play Store, you'll see the throttling kick in quite soon. It is what it is and it's all caused by the 810.
[Nexus 6P General] Reuben_skelz92:
Haha don't make me laugh. I've seen you all over the bending threads being an idiot making me laugh my head off.
[Nexus 6P General] AndrasLOHF:
I play games a lot and notice the performance drop on a daily basis.

Daily scenario..... Play Clash Royale while charging... phone gets hot.... Some lag ensues.... check the cores and some cores are shut off and the others are throttled. Rinse, wash, repeat.
[Nexus 6P General] joooe:
You guys need a portable console.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Why, when other phones can handle those types of games and scenarios fine? And not to mention most of us don't want a separate portable console and expense to play games.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
You cant really blame huawei or google for heat problems, since its snapdragon 810 problem, and actually huawei and google did a really good job, cause 6p is known as best among snapdragon 810devices when it comes to heating

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/how-hot-is-the-snapdragon-810-in-the-nexus-6p.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review/4

Clever design, chip is surrounded by metal for better heat distribution, also loads of thermal paste.
[Nexus 6P General] AndrasLOHF:
All heat issues aside I agree they did the best they could with what was the flagship CPU at the time. It just irks me when people say the phone doesn't have a throttling issue when it's so simple to recreate scenarios that shows it does.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Surely Huawei could've added heat pipes also? although it is a good heat dissipating design. There's no denying though that it throttles heavily and performance is affected . For 2015, the 6P is pretty much a top spec phone. Qualcomm lost a lot of business and respect with the 810.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
If you look at teardown photos of 6p, you can see that theres really not much space available left. And its not like heatpipe is answer for all problems, z5 has heatpipes and suffers from overheating more than 6p. I believe they did as much as they could with 6p and sd810.
[Nexus 6P General] pj1980:
I thought huawei was making the tablet and HTC is making the phones this year?
[Nexus 6P General] Chad_Petree:
Just one more day and we'll find out, if google doesnt announce/release the 6P with 820 , then we can just forget about it and wait for the HTC nexus that will be released this year :confused:
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
No announcement today so I'm feeling better about my recent 6P purchase. :D
[Nexus 6P General] Elnrik:
I've never been a fan of HTC, and yes - I've owned a few of their devices. I don't care for the iphone mimicry and design decisions they've made on recent devices, and I'd hate to see that carry over into my beloved Nexus line. I took a big chance on the 6P, never having owned anything from (or even having heard of) huawei, but I'm glad I did.

I may be skipping the next line of Nexus phones. I'll agree the 810 isn't the best, and part of me yearns for a phone with the 820 in it. To be honest, I'm so happy with my 6P I don't know as I'd jump to a Nexus branded HTC product to get it.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Agreed. Never a fan of HTC phones. I just got the 6P not that long ago, so it's going to be my phone until maybe the next installment of Nexus phones after HTC this season. Plus 5.7 is a great size for the screen, we are hearing 5.5 will be the large HTC Nexus. 5.7 is about as small as I want my screen.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Yeah I get stutters and slowdowns all the time. It's kind of neat cause it reminds me to put my phone down to cool every 15-20 minutes or so and look around at the world.
[Nexus 6P General] SlyUK:
Looks like it is coming true - according to Huawei South Africa:

http://gearburn.com/2016/06/huawei-p9-launch-south-africa/

Bring it on .......Whoopee Do :)
[Nexus 6P General] sherlock5545:
If that's true, there's going to be two Nexus devices this year. One by HTC and one by Huawei? I don't see it being released anytime before the typical Nexus launch in the fall.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
A smaller HTC and larger Huawei "7P"? Just like the LG Nexus 5x and 6P last year.
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
What's coming true? I didn't see anything in that article about a 820-based Nexus device.

That said, since the regular 6P is having a big sale right now, Huawei could be trying to draw down existing inventory to introduce a newer model.
[Nexus 6P General] SlyUK:
If that comes true. Which would you go for then & why ?

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So if they are doing a Nexus, which they said they are. Which processor do you think they will use, it won't be anything less than SnapDragon 820 ?
[Nexus 6P General] sherlock5545:
At spec parity, I think I might get the HTC one, simply because I haven't had one of their devices since ages, so I'd like to try one. Otherwise I don't really have a preference. My 6P has been flawless from day 1, didn't have any faults unlike some people. So I'm happy with it, and totally feel comfortable in buying another Huawei Nexus :)
[Nexus 6P General] logic88:
That's a good point. I guess I read the article a bit too quick.

Maybe they'll use a SD825? :)

It's actually bad for Google to be rolling out new devices in Q4 since the new SoCs aren't generally available until the quarter after.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
No issues with the 810. What a waste of money to buy the 820 now if you ask me.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Why is that?
[Nexus 6P General] thegrants82:
Because he has the 810. I would totally jump on next 6p.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
That's the exact answer I was thinking in my head, but I wanted to give him a chance to answer lol.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The 810 Is horrible.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It's actually the worst soc that I can think of in recent memory relative to what it should have been. And it's the reason Qualcomm lost a lot of business with Samsung.

And the overheating issues are far from a fallacy. Sure it won't overheat or throttle in normal day to day activities... But put it under load and it certainly will.
[Nexus 6P General] AndrasLOHF:
Absolutely agree. I love the 6P..... Absolutely love it..... When the eff'ing thing isn't being throttled down to a 2013 spec phone.

Now that it's getting hotter down here in the south it's becoming more and more of a daily issue. I use my phone for work in a warehouse setting. Many times throughout the day I have to take pictures of product for clients. With the ambient temperature, plus my body heat, and the function of processing HDR+ and having them upload to Photos the phone is constantly being throttled.
[Nexus 6P General] ixon2001:
Wont most phones regardless if it has the Snapdragon 810, 820 or Exynos ect also throttle in Summer heat when being pushed, as there just isn't the room inside smartphones for that heat to disperse efficiently.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Um, because my 810 performs exactly as I need it to and wasting another purchase on an 820 would be stupid???

I have not had a SINGLE issue with the 810 or this phone. Why the hell would I put out another bunch of money for a phone the exact same with the 820? Because some benchmarks say so? I'm thinking some people need to maybe straighten things out in their own mind before thinking others are wrong. But hey, if you have nothing but money to waste, I'll give you my email and you can deposit said money into my account thanks.

A LOT pf people here are forgetting that everyone uses their phones differently. Just because you don't like a phone or it causes you a problem does not mean it's an issue for all. Again,...I HAVE NEVER had a problem with this phone. NEVER. 810 has been fine. Thanks.

Really funny how WizeGuyDezignz is always RIGHT there the second someone says something bad abut this phone, He waits and pounces. It's getting rather tiresome and the mods continue to let it happen. I'm from Canada. Great you have a Blue Jays logo. Good for you. But you're still a pain in the ass over and over again,.

I challenge all you 6P owners to come out and support this phone, It's awesome. C'mon guys. Enough is enough,.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Sounds like your trying to start a religious movement with that come out support stuff, mine throttles all the time, it's bent and has paint wearing off of it. If you're not a blind fanboy the flaws are pretty glaring. Someone else said it throttles to 2013 era smartphone levels I agree. My opo with an 801 can run circles around this phone if I use it for more than 20 minutes. If I'm being honest with myself and look back at all the phones over owned over the last 20 years, this one has to be one of the most disappointing. I has an lg flip phones in the early 2ks(one of the very first "3g" phones that kind of sucked worse).

Camera is really nice though.
[Nexus 6P General] matteventu:
99% that will be a 7/8" Nexus tablet by Huawei.

Then there will be the two Nexus phones, made by HTC.
[Nexus 6P General] jpbl1976:
This wouldn't be a terribly bad idea. The '2016 Nexus 6P' could be something like the iPhone SE -- same old shell as an older device with new innards.
[Nexus 6P General] abs406:
If they did release a new version with upgraded components and materials, that are more robust, then it would be a good option. The design of the phone, is one of the things that attracted me to it in the first place and I have only owned it a month and think it's excellent.

I have had no issues with lag or battery drain or build quality and hopefully it will stay that way as I plan on keeping the phone for few years at least. I think it just comes down to personal experience with the device and whether you have the available funds to buy a brand new version come October time.

From all the videos I have watched and reviews I have read, it seems to be able to keep up with the 820 devices out there and is usually only a couple of seconds behind in loading an app and personally that is inconsequential to me and makes little difference. Everyday use is fantastic and I, personally, can't justify spending an additional £500-£600 on a phone which will, more than likely, be marginally faster than the current version. But that's just me, others may have had bad experiences with their phones and would need to get the upgraded version, if indeed it is a new phone and not a tablet that Huawei are talking about.
[Nexus 6P General] SlyUK:
Its highly likely to be a tablet. Lets hope its a good one :)
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
I have a question.....

Why do people who obviously dislike this phone because of the "defects," continue to use it and not sell it? I don't get it. By the way, I put defects because mine doesn't have any that I can find as yet.

Like another user posted, we use our devices differently so not everyone will experience slowdown lagging or hearing issues. I don't think this phone gets hot based on my usage and I'm on it all day for work. I average about 6 hours of screen time with charging or course, and it's all done at max brightness. I play games on it at least 4 times a week for about 2 hours at a time. No issues here for me.

Oh yeah, and no bending yet either. We shall see about that one.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I'm waiting on the next Nexus. I don't mind the 6P but there's no denying it has its faults like no OIS, the throttling and the build quality. I also went through a few 6Ps to get one with an even screen colour. So overall, it's not bad just not amazing.