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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigDRim:
Hey, to the some guys here who've got rid of the pink hue issue: do you think if I let the phone on max brightness a lot of time, it will help?

Because I got my HTC 10 last week with the issue (Tianma pannel), asked a new unit but I doubt the one I'll receive Saturday will be any better.

Thanks
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] donuldvan:
I've now got 2... Both from Very.co.uk. One is going back because the battery life is just soooo bad. Anyway, it's given me the chance to do a side by side comparison.

Both are Sharp panels. The older one looks more vivid and can go brighter... It's really noticeable. But the white is also a bit more pinky than on the one that I just got today.

Will the new screen improve over time? Does it take time for them to 'bed in'? Noob question, I know.

Disappointingly, I'm not yet seeing any difference in battery life yet. I've had both running YouTube on full brightness side by side and the OLD phone is actually currently dropping at a slower rate! Not impressed with the battery at all.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] JohnCorleone:
What is a good way to check for this tint issue? Any particular app? I know benchmarks count for something but I had a chance to use my friends iPhone 6S and compare/contrast with my 10...he was shocked with how great my device worked especially when I zoomed in max zoom and took a picture of a painting...when he zoomed in if was damn near flawless. I can't get the fingerprint lock to fail...not once and I am getting the crazy good battery lifeas well. I havent seen anything except for the 4G LTE icon...I do want to check the tint thing but if I had a pink tint, I would hope that I would have noticed that!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
2 clicks warm on sRGB adjusted screen to most natural colors possible on the HTC 10. Also read a site that ended up with the same configuration for most natural screen color...anandtech if I can recall
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrazyCypher:
You have Sharp panel?

---------- Post added at 11:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 AM ----------

You guys, what if it is not the glue exactly, but the whole batch of glue was not mixed propertly which caused uneven distribution of all the chemicals(ingredients) and one devices got more of this reddish chemical under and others less of it... Or even the option that the glue was unused for too long after it was mixed and it was not in perfect condition before they put it under the glass lcd (This could be if the glue stays in container and solidifies with oxygen it gets red, but if used immediately when mixed then it solidifies under a glass with no presence of oxygen it wouldn't become red)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
How bad is yours?

Mines not terrible but not as great as htc made it out to be - although thats just marketing I guess.

Definitely would love better battery life.

And becareful with Very returns, If you take it out of the plastic then they may not accept the return but If they accept Battery life as a "fault" guess you'll be fine:)

Was gonna send mine back over some little scratches on the atenna bands but ended up keeping it as they said it could take a bit befoe the returns processed and I'd have to re-order the phone etc, cba waiting ended up getting 5% discounted off the price instead.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
It wasn't Anandtech as they (or he, Joshua) hasn't published their review yet.

It was GSMArena and they said

Now is that saturation accuracy or is that Gretag Macbeth, what's the brightness used. And so on.

Anandtech has tested their 10 (with Tianma) in sRGB mode and the color temp at middle.

Joshua said that +1 or +2 (-4...0...+4) gets his test unit closest to the 6504K target.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cobrax2:
so guys, is there a way of changing the calibration to not be so reddish? i have sharp display

can we add more calibration profiles other than vivid and srgb?

thanks
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
It depends on how much your device is affected by the tint. You can set the display temperature colder. For now there is only vivid an srgb. I don't think that you can get a good color calibration for all angles of a normal usage because the red shift can happen at too low angles.

The thing is that we should get a calibration for each angle and even for each brightness level and that is quite impossible because the phone cannot track faces to adjust the screen color and brightness.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cobrax2:
the angle is not a problem. its reddish when at lower brightness
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] evak2979:
Got my new HTC 10 in white, from an ebay seller - europan model (has 4 more available).

Tianma panel, minimal/no tint, no vertical lines. Super happy.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
Depending on what sort of LOCA glue is used, there is 1 to 3 cure factors : UV, Heat, and Moisture : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_optically_clear_adhesive

I did not find anything about loca glue that appears reddish during or after the cure process.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
Thanks! Couldn't recall the article but found it interesting that they ended up with the same screen settings I ended up with myself.

For those reporting (vertical/horizontal) lines. Are you guys talking about the matrix that registers touch responses? If that's the case, then it's normal with touchscreens. I can take pictures of them present on my iPad, Shield tablet, any other phone I have laying around as they all have it to show that it is normal.

Quite silly how someone who just found those for the first time had everyone paranoid about them, like the "glares" on camera. [emoji14]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwbasti:
Only a quick question guys.

Down here in Europe the HTC 10 was extremely hard to get (more to say absolutely not available) since its release at beginning of may.

As of the last two to three days the 10 became available at the big retailers and providers here.

Could it be that HTC had/has some kind of quality problems regarding the displays and held back the delivery of the 10s?

Because the ridiculous pink tint surely won't fit the price and quality expectation of a flagship that should place the company to the top of the manufactures again.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skr_xd:
After all the drama with HTC 10 screen tint issue, had a chance to use S7 Edge for 2 days. It was exynos version.

Compared both screens and couldn't understand the hype it has got. The screen was warm in basic for my taste. Was okay with Adaptive mode. But whites were NOT white and still had some yellow tint. Also, on tilting, the tint shifted towards blue. Just for comparison, I took the device to nearby mall and compared with display units in Emax, Ecity, Jumbo j Sharaf. Believe or not, each were different but basically all had some warm tint and blue shift on tilting. None of them had pure whites compared to my Tianma 10.

Also, battery life was only a little better than 10 under same usage scenario with 4G, with some ➕ 1hr SOT.

couldn't justify myself about the hype around S7E?.

Seems HTC fans are too picky compared to fans of other oems.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigDRim:
Amoled panels I've seen do not have fantastic white colors but if I put a Nexus 6P and my HTC 10 side by side, the 10 really looks awful.

And with the 6P no one has ever asked me "why your screen is yellow", whereas people notice the pinkish screen of the 10.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwbasti:
I don't want to attack you personally in any kind. But I simply can't understand how low peoples expectations are. In my case it doesn't matter which brand is print on the product. If it has failure it gets returned. If it's a HTC 10 or a Samsung Galaxy S7 doesn't matter if the screen has a tint it's not worth the money and (especially) the HTC 10 is by now the most expensive flagship here in germany.

It might be a less important issue for people with Tianma Displays that cure over time but mine was Sharp Display and even after weeks it still had an enormous pink tint even when not tilted. I wonder if there is any kind of quality control down in HTC factories.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skr_xd:
I understand your problem. What I wanted to convey was the quality problem with display definitely exists with other oem flagships also. Not all displays are the same is applicable. Even my previous 10 was with uneven brightness in different parts of screen. But the current one is excellent in all sorts. Try for an exchange if possible.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwbasti:
That's exactly what I wanted to describe with my previous posting. But to be honest a slight yellow tint is way less noticeable for me then the pink tint the HTC 10 has.

But it's sad that companies seem to go away from deliver beta software to the customers but rather deliver beta hardware :(

I can't exchange my 10 because I had to return it. Here in germany we have a 14 day return period. After that many companies only send the device to a repair store and eventually they send you a refurbished device after only two weeks after the purchase.

So i have to order the HTC 10 completely new.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
I feel a bit sorry for all those who complained about a tinted screen. I have mine now 6 days with a sharp panel and it is flawless. No tint, also not at very low brightness, no lines etc. Just as you would expect from a top device. Before I got mine I had several (+5) s7 and 7edge in my hands in shops and from other owners and ALL had the described tint without an exception and I personally found it disturbing . So indeed I think a lot of 10 users and interested ones in buying one are just nitpicking! Except of course the ones where the display is proven faulty but that concerns very little amount of owners.

Send from my .I. .I.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
I have the Sharp panel and it has no noticeable tint (except when running f.lux ;)).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zimilaci:
Hey There, I am located in Germany and all the big retailers (mm, saturn, etc) were out of devices.

I ended up buying it from HTC online store (originally german location) but still I got a shipment from UK in 2 Days!!!! this is something!!!

So far satisfied :))))
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
T-Mobile version. Tianma panel. No tint, no whine, nothing. Very happy with it, it looks better than my Note 5 in my opinion.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
Hi, please tell us the first 5 digit of your 10's serial number.

it seems that there is less and less people with tint issues.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
HT657

And yeah I have lost the panel lottery with HTC a few times before so it's nice to not have to deal with that with my 10.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] symy:
So no sharp screen on black silver version?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
Sharp here in the UK
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] istrikerx:
Got a sharp panel from very in the UK, black 10 32gb.

It's utter garbage, like most sharp/jdi screens I've seen in the past. Top half is noticeably darker, screen is very pink, and the bottom led backlight is noticeably too bright making the top half dimness issue even worse.

On top of that, vertical lines, everywhere.

Will be returning and my new one will be here tomorrow. If it's till garbage, I'll just wait for the one plus 3.

Coming from an s7 edge I expected better, but thus far this phone has been awful. Audio output is loud but muddy, htc software has ruined it completely. Similarly the loudspeakers can't come close to that of my s7 edge with its dual speaker mod. Louder yes, but again, no clarity by comparison.

I hope to god that viper can save this mess of an audio system. Not everyone listens to crappy pop or dubstep htc!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
Wow ! what are the first 5 digits of your 10's serial number ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] istrikerx:
FA65L
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
wow :( ! i've already tried 2 devices and both had the pink tint ! i wont buy another one with it. Yours has been recently assembled ( 12/05/2016 or maybe 22/05 ?) and the problem is still there ! well done htc :good: :eek:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snappy Phoenix:
Just bought this phone in Dubai, it has the Tianma display :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] istrikerx:
Yeah, next one is the last one for me. Hoping for Tianm next time.

Have this one calibrated very coolly but it's not to my liking. Makes the colours look weird especially at low brightness.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] steelmaggot:
wow that one made in the future, check the date again
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
lol sorry, i meant the 12/05/2016
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
First 5 characters of your serial bro?

Hope you enjoy it or I'm going to feel bad lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
Can you post a picture of the vertical lines you are seeing on your 10?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RenzokukenXDA:
Tianma, HT64x
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] puneet724:
Tianma for Taiwanese variant
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] istrikerx:
I have no other device to do that unfortunately. I imagine it'd be very hard to take a picture of it too, as it's more related to slight movements when the phone is in hand (emphasises the lines).

I also have the high pitched whine issue too ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fmedrano1977:
+1
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] istrikerx:
So am I right in thinking that most people with Tianma are happy, with less defects, and most people with Sharp hate their lives currently? ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I have a Sharp panel and I have no problems at all. The screen has not tint or lines, is even and I can read the screen in portrait mode with all my Polarized sunglasses.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Same here (landscape is completely black though whereas my M7 was still readable). I love that screen. Serial is FA65G, so assembled on the 7th of May.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
according to this , it could be 17th as well ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I forgot to tell mine. Sharp panel without problems: FA654
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vonrottes:
T-mobile version here with a Tianma HX8396...

screen looks great imo... save for colors being a little off with lower brightness settings.

80%+ is spot on, below 70% I get some pinkness
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
Oh. Thought you would be able to take a picture with the other 10 you received.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] steelmaggot:
I have a sharp panel, absolutely perfect, no lines,zero pink tint
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snappy Phoenix:
35426

They said on NBR forums though that the serial numbers are not an indicator of what type of screen you will get.

PS: I think you will like this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/htc-10.792080/page-8#post-10273592
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
It is not an indicator of what type of panel but we can see if the proportion of each panel type changes with the time and if recent manufactured devices can be bought with more confidence.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Yep, you're right!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RenzokukenXDA:
I live in Asia but I have the Glacier Silver US version whic has the HT64x SN. Which means this phone was made in Taiwan. I just thought its weird they decided not to sell the black front silver back 10 in Asia.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ExMM:
This is mine, is it good or bad?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] l2icky:
Tianma, Silver US Verizon. Very happy with the screen. No issues.

Also had a T-Mobile silver, it had no screen issues either.

HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
just in case no one figured it all yet :)

HTC is clearly clearing their stock of the M9+ Tianma 2k panels before moving completely to sharp, we can't blame them as the screen is expertly calibrated and has good power consumption

this is my assumption ofcourse but place the Tianma HTC 10 next to the M9+ with same wallpaper and you cant tell the screens apart
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpert3:
I got HTC 10 EU Carbon Gray SIM free from official website.

SHARP display, little pink screen but not very serious as in some posts photos, but the screen sometimes is not responsive.

No colorful lines under sun light or something else weird, just unresponsive in some random situations.

DSN: FA653XXXXXXXX, so from TAIWAN TAOYUAN Factory B, made in 2016/05/03.

Check my photo: from left to right: HTC A9, HTC 10, and HTC M8. All 3 phones are showing the same white image (#FFFFFF), and here it is:

Not very obvious pink color through this photo but to human eyes it's a little bit more pink.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
They aren't referring to having a pink hue looking dead on. They say that some screens have pink when you look at the phone at angles in which you never use a phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpert3:
Not in my case, in an angle it's about the same pink, it doesn't go deeper.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwbasti:
That's not correct!

For example my 10 with Sharp display had an ridiculous pink tint no matter which angle you looked at it even dead on. It even got worse when the brightness was set to <50%.

So not everybody is complaining about angles that are never used ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Draygon:
Hello,

I received my HTC 10 in grey with a sharp panel today.

It also has the mentioned red tint, which is visible all the time. Really worse to look at, I'm returning the phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mywrx1:
Had a sharp panel on mine that had no pink and on a complete angle was excellent and still readable but had a dead pixel which I could've dealt with but the Sprint model doesn't have wifi calling so I exchanged it for a s7 edge, and totally regret it now! I'm worried now if I go back now, will I get a nice display that I had. Battery on this edge is amazing but am ready to throw it out the window with all the miss touches with the damn edge screen!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yvtc75:
As i know, all the m9+ in Taiwan was equipped with JDI panel . The screen was pretty good .
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mywrx1:
M9+ was a super lcd3 and the 10 is super lcd5
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
yes marketing term relating to the color optimization htc did on the 10 and the better touch panel driver, it's still the same panel underneath

The M9+ I used for comparing was Tianma as well

Anyway I could be wrong, these screens are made for spec so if htc detects a flaw from a provider they will surely deal with it

Pink is starting to sound a subjective thing especially with sharp units, the point of this thread was to poll the amount of tianma devices versus sharp, Lately it sounds like a 50/50 chance when at first it was all Tianma

This thread is not necessarily about the pink shift, the tianma panel doesn't have a tint upfront, it just appears on tilting when the brightness is under 80% in that case I accept it as a price to pay for one of the best LCDs I have seen in years it's just pure eye candy to use this phone, just like Amoled lovers accept all the weird quirks that come with that as well, my tianma unit doesn't tint upfront even when using powrsaver

Still I must say the calibration does seem a bit biased toward red, as evident in certain grey shades looking reddish, like the grey used in EX kernel manager app, I'm really looking forward color control in EX kernel to test if we can reduce the pink by reducing the red a little, in that case HTC could truly fix it for people via a future update by reducing reds a notch we shall see
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
When i looked at my last 2 devices (tianma) upfront, the pink tint was visible, not only when tilting them.

Yesterday i tried a test device in a store and the screen was perfect (tianma) no tint at all at any angle and brightness level. Now i know that i'm not crazy and my eyes are ok. :cyclops:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ffodi:
Carbon Grey EU sim free version - Tianma panel

Did some measurements with my Colormunki Display (ColorHCFR+Voodoo test patterns), if someone interested :) :

Stock vibrant profile:

- Display white point: 8671K

- Peak brightness (100% white, 100% brightness manual set.): 435,2 cd/m2

- AVG deltae (col.): 4,62

Stock sRGB profile:

- Display white point: 7877K

- Peak brightness (100% white, 100% brightness manual set.): 420,5 cd/m2

- AVG deltaE(col.): 3,8

And last but not least sRGB proflle with custom color temp (slider at leftmost position), which provides the most "accurate" setting:

- Display white point: 6504K (:cool:)

- Peak brightness (100% white, 100% brightness manual set.): 396,8 cd/m2

- Black luminance: 0,242 cd/m2

- Contrast ratio: 1640:1

- AVG deltaE(col.): 2,53
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ensXP:
I got my HTC10 as a replacement device for my M8 that broke in warranty and I waited since late April (when my operator offered to replace the device) till Jun 5th when they shipped the HTC10 to me. Apparently HTC was halting the start of the HTC10 sales (at least in my country)... The first devices became available via operator contracts only since June 3rd.

I heard two explanations why that was the case... First, that there was a problem with the shipped devices, and second one was that HTC was pushing the operators to lower the price of the HTC10... I find the second one more believable as the pricing (without the 2 year contract) here is a bit weird. S7 edge is priced at 946€, S7 is priced at 850€ and the HTC10 is priced at 775€ which is only 45€ more than the HTC A9

Edit:

forgot to mention...

Carbon gray

Sharp panel

FA653

No pink tint when viewing the display either directly or under extreme angles

But I do have the high pitch sound coming from the phone when the brightness is below the 25% (apparently that will go away with the new software upgrade... I'm still on 1.30.401.1)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrazyCypher:
But then why is M9+ S-LCD3 and 10 is S-LCD5, only marketing? :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
UK HTC 10, sharp panel.

Some purple tint visible only when seeing the phone in angle.

Using the phone under the sun the whole day with auto brightness below middle. Happy so far!

Στάλθηκε από το HTC One A9 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
Dude start another thread for this
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
didn't want to start a new thread for my personal query... but none the less i will get it removed... :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] reihead:
Carbon gray model on three Ireland

Sharp panel
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrazyCypher:
What are first 5 digits of your serial? :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
I've just got my 3rd htc 10 ( from amazon EU this time), it has a sharp panel (FA65N) and it also has this ******* pink tint.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
I recommend using the 10 with vivid profile set halfway or a notch more toward warm much better accuracy and pink shift only remains on extreme side tilt
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
^^ the screen appears yellow/orange to my eyes with this color setting. they are maybe crazy. Depending on the where i am, i can see different levels of tint: Sometimes i see it a lot and sometimes not at all (adaptative brightness off).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I'm pretty happy with vivid + 2 notches cooler. Good color balance but still a little saturated as is it seems the purpose of vivid profile