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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
I have both installed.

Apps don`t create wakelocks you mentioned. wlan_rx_wake is kernel wakelock not caused by apps. My second highest usage in power menu is Android OS = kernel.

If I do factory reset and no apps are even installed and sync not configured I still get same old wakelock.

M8 has also Android 6 and I`m telling you it HAS NO WLAN_RX_WAKE wakelock. It does have apps wakelocks (mail sync, weather sync etc...).

Then explain this:

WiFi ON, full signal 2 meters from router = 4% battery loss in a night

WiFi OFF, LTE 2 bars = 1% battery loss in a night

Furthermore above numbers are stock ROM and no settings changed after hard reset (except to configure WiFi).

Disabled WiFi = 6 hours SOT

Do I really need to tell more? :)

Sadly WiFi is crap on this phone, even signal is weaker than on M8.

Most probably we won`t fix it nor discover EXACT thing that causes it. But I believe that HTC will fix it as we have many more updates from them to come.

We also will get N so new kernel new firmware etc... Maybe they will fix it then :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
4% on wifi over night is actually very normal, LTE does have better standby times than WIFI, its like that on any phone.

M8 is not valid comaprsion phone, i used to have 3 days battery with 6 hours screen on on that phone, 801 was the best efficient CPU ever on HTC:.

And your wrong regarding "apps dont cause wakelock but kernel", if app requests WIFI activity, kernel will do its job and keep WIFI awake, and ofcourse at the end you will see it as Kernel use, not the actual app that used it.

Same thing as users blame google play services for wake, while in like 95% times its some other app requesting its services, which at the end shows as play services wake.

Is it so hard for you to post pics i requested?Maybe i notice something..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Here we go.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
I see nothing wrong with WIFI on pics, actually i see nothing wrong at all, im now on 88% battery, i have 14mins of wlan_wake, which is even more than you, and i have more system wakelocks etc...

Can you post a pic what your getting out of full charge?Total online time, Screen on, wifi on, whats your average screen brightness?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Sure I can.

Like this one: http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=hl3JBHjZ4e5nP5QaUhSKUQ&ts=1466411133

I will have to wait for the phone to discharge....

I see a lot of problems on my screenshots.

Wlan_rx 14 minutes? Why? See partial wakelocks. What the hell is keeping wlan actively receiving something if partial wakelocks are so low??

I event wen wiresharking and guess what? No significat data is flowing to or from device. Sometimes there is almost 5 minutes without activity yet it shows wlan_rx_wakelock :)

Well this, my friend, is a problem.

Also what I didn`t mention before, I have random WiFi reconnects on some networks on others not. M8 did not have this issues on all of networks HTC10 has.

There is clearly something wrong here I`m just hoping it`s fixable via any SW method (firmware, kernel or OS).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
Broken link.

Its hard to say no WIFI activity, im sure many programs send regular pings, like mail exchange if you have.

WIFI signal indeed is a bit weaker than for example on m9, if you are further from router, you can expect a bit more drain, and no software update will ever solve it, there where already 3 major updates and there was almost no changes to WIFI in those therms(not talking about supposed wakelocks, just range)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Range is for sure HW issue that won`t be solved. Ever.

All things should be repairable.

On those screens above you also have screen details...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
I need full discharge screens with stats i asked, those are on 90%, and link u posted is broken..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Tomorrow or maybe in the evening, depends on usage:)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Lol.

On Sony Phones with Stamina Mode it was normal to get a 10h night with 0% loss. WiFi on.

If the 801 or the 820 are more efficient doesn't matter at all in Standby..... because the CPU is not supposed to work in Standby ;)

And yes, WiFi is ****ed up on our 10 as everyone is saying in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3392562

Just because you're an exception doesn't mean there is no Problem.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
CPU always works, try sending offline command to all cores, you will see what will happen :)

Iv read that entire thread, and saw no proper tests or proofs of WIFI problem, all those supposed logs with problems, i checked my phone i get all those also, so that shouldnt be problem*

I agree wifi has issues, but i dont agree this supposed wakelocks are causing it, because i always had them on m8 and m9 and now on HTC 10, and im having just fine battery life while on WIFI.

Im trying to debug one single case where we can prove its WIFI fault, so far users in my opinion posted invalid comparisons as they had more held awake, and didint post stats on which app or kernel app actually used it.

Its all kind in the talks and assumptions, no proper proff was posted that WIFI is causing it, or at least for someone to show full discharge, and posted wakelocks like in above previous screenshots pack where we can say, okay no app caused problems(wakes from betterbattery stats or WLD), than it must be WIFI!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
In my case on my screens even though it`s only 10% discharge is clearly seen that phone doesn`t sleep as it should.

AndroisOS being high is not ok.

I remember my M8 days when flar2 kernel had problems with gestures and phone was detecting screen touches even when in pocket.

In kernel wakelocks there was lots of "KeyEvents" wakelocks and AndroidOS was high on usage = phone didn`t sleep. We figured it out it`s hardware incompatibility issue, flar2 made second kernel and it was fine since then.

So here we have similar situation but with wifi. I bet this is kernel issue.

EDIT:

Also have a look at theese, logs from Openwrt:

My 10 random reconnects itself every 5-10 minutes (random!!!).

So yeah, this phones have clearly serious wifi issues AFAIK.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
Yes, thats weird, only thing related i found was this

https://github.com/kaloz/mwlwifi/issues/20

Are you running latest OPEN WRT firmware?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Vulture-:
Hi!

Im feeling pretty fine with my battery life, 2 days with light usage, i dont have any problems with wakelocks atm.

But what im seeing with the 10 is, that when you actually use the phone f. e. for browsing with Opera, the battery goes down pretty fast. Display is on medium auto brightness. Maybe thats kernel/governor related? Do you see the same behaviour?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Seen it, not related.

I use AR71XX branch (Atheros).

Maybe it`s config maybe it`s device I don`t know.

I even tried LEDE and same results...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
Following this item for a few days and one thing I would recommend: try another router for Wifi.

Maybe he can borrow one just for testing but a router can cause this issue and for example force to disconnect and reconnect the connection without one noticing it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
I have a wakelock problem also.

In 4 hours screen off it is awake with screen off for 1 1/2 hrs.

BBS shows it is com.google.android.gms.

Logging with wakelock detector and BBS to find the culprit.

And it is not Wifi what is causing it.

Battery usage isn't too bad during sleep (around 1% per hr) but it is still too high.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
fact is for me that wi fi is a battery killer , as i posted a few pages back with gsam stats with wi fi on i manage 3.5 max screen on time / active phone use. With wi fi of its around 7.5 hours more then double.

Wi Fi is zapping battery something is wrong be it kernal / hardware , and it would benefit us all to get to the bottom of this. Hopefully this can happen and we can move forward without this issue being swept under rug which kinda feels like whats happening now.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
Found 1 culprit:

Send from my .I. .I.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
This are location services...

Disable location and it will be gone...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
Nope, it isn't.

Just wiped the settings of google play service and google play app and it is gone.

Also the NlpCollectorWakelock problem is gone now.

I also use greenify (donation version) and the option to force doze mode immediately after screen is switched off.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Nlp=network location provider

So yes, this is location wakelock
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] AliLaPointe:
Can someone tell me how they are getting apps like BBS and wakelock detector to show kernel information. Mine says it's unavailable.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
su

mntP=$(grep /sys/kernel/debug /proc/mounts | awk '{print $2}')

if [[ "${mntP}" != "/sys/kernel/debug" ]]

then

mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug

fi

For more info search the Thread in Q&A subforum
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
After all the measures I took to overcome the wakelock of Google Play Service and NlpCollectorWakeloc (see my previous post) now all looks as it should be. Lost 0,5% per hour during the night:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hi :) (I'm new in HTC 10 forum, so I'm sorry for my (re)post, maybe already made by someone else)

I've a little battery problem, a huge battery drain. These days I tried to wipe apps from RAM as much as I could, clean background apps and reduce usage to understand how I could stand 5/7h of SOT. I believed that always active was a Play Service bug (wiped by Boost+, I read about battery drain caused by task killers). But today I had a huge battery drain (again), 20% with only 50mins. No intensive usage, other days, trying to use it a lot I made 3h or 3h30... I have connected a Moto 360 2nd gen, Sync on (with email and news apps synced; Telegram and Whatsapp installed). I can't understand how increase battery life. Could someone help me to understand?

Thanks in advance :)

PS: no Motion Gestures enabled; I'm installing apps like BBS.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Actually different mistakes can lead to the same annoying outcome - poor battery life..

You may want to start with those: https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3369982&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

And then also show me your weather clock widget screenshot.. ?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I'm working on your advices, I really thank you in advance :) I've a question: Wifi Optimisation should be switched off: why? (Technical infos, of course, I don't doubt about your choice, only I'm surprised about disabling a "battery saver" option)

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So also app optimization reduces battery life, because they boot up again if they are necessary for something when they are killed by optimization, isn't it?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] amq:
Typical battery life with my usage. Middle auto brightness, wifi always on, no battery saver, about an hour of gaming. Stock 1.53

btw, my router: TP-LINK TL-WR841N, running the latest OpenWRT
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
My advice cones from real life usage - not from theories and white papers.. ?

https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3369982&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hi :) I would like to share my result, made in two days (first with stock settings, and evening of the first day and the second day with some jauhien settings). It's strange that Machinarium used about 15%for only 15minutes. I've no app battery optimization, disabled some sync services, disabled Boost+ and some stock apps. About 5h but there is something that I continue to miss.

Edit:I forgot screenshots XD I'll upload in another post
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Here the screenshots
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] navanibingo007:
Hi..first time posting here.battery life on this device is great.. even with heavy usage getting more than 5 hours SOT..with light usage SOTis crazy.. currently on 6 hours SOTwith 47% remaining..

ht tp://imgur.com/a/1qE2m
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Do not forget to share the relevant screenshots explaining Battery Usage and Screen Brightness.. Thank you! P.S. Hide the images posted between [hide ] and [/hide ] tags.. ?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] navanibingo007:
I am trying to upload the screenshots via the official app and it is failing citing network error which is nottrue..I'll try via desktop

here is the imgur link..hope it isnt against rules. ht tp://imgur.com/a/1qE2m
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr.Jamil:
That's a very good battery life. could you please mention briefly, what was your light usage for 6 hours SOT? any gaming, downloads, uploads...etc ?

Thank you :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] navanibingo007:
just 15-20 mins of phone calls, 30 mins of opera mini, 20 to 30 mins of reddit and more than 4 hours of fanfic reader..only downloaded xda app.no gaming.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Auto-brightness 20% though? Or fixed brightness at some particular level? Or manually adjusted during the day /night?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] navanibingo007:
auto brightness always enabled..only when viewing gallery or vlc, i touch those sliders..currently it is around 50-60%

edit---no outdoor usage though
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Fanfic Reader is a Text or Comic Reader?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] amq:
A bit lighter usage than the last time. Almost only web browsing. Mid auto brightness, wifi always on, sync always on (2 google accounts), Messanger, Whatsapp. No baterry saver, greenify etc. Enabled Booster+, disabled Facebook, enabled wifi optimization (as by default). Stock unrooted 1.53 ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Just a heads up here..

After today's update Google Gallery on HTC 10 started eating that poor battery toooooooo much.. ?????

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] grega_slo:
Mhm, 30 mins of awake...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Battery, the real life test

deleted.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
No sleep for the phone :)

Either streaming Music to the car via Bluetooth or GPS navigation. Or outside taking pictures. ^^
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrazyCoder:
In case your device is always awake, disable Google Backup, see http://xdaforums.com/htc-10/help/deep-sleep-awake-1-80-update-t3405567 for details.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] komugi:
Is there a WiFi display bug on the battery history chart?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
No, if you set WiFi to "Scan for Locations even when disabled" it will show as active even though you manually disabled WiFi.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] komugi:
Doesn't work for me, the Battery history chart (Android settings one) shows Wi-Fi as being on no matter what, all the settings are set as Off/Never, however if I look in BetterBatteryStats or Gsam Battery -- It shows that the wifi isn't active. I currently have Moto X Pure Edition, Sony Xperia Z5 and HTC 10, and they all exhibit the same thing (all on 6.x). Unless an app can hijack the Wi-Fi, is that possible?

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------

Was Wi-Fi on at all times?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/syl2ixvw89w612s/hTc_10_Battery_Life.zip?dl=0

?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes, I'm at home these days :/ anyway my SoT is about 4h / 4h30
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
I remember having that on my Z2.

But as you can see it can be off on the HTC10, so you must have missed one tiny Setting option that keeps WiFi alive.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlodykaras:
Yeah man. I have the same thing. Everything is disabled and still showing as active... Probably a bug. I was on 1.21, 1.30 now on 1.80 and no difference. Still WiFi active all the time.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TomF1979:
You have to disable:

Settings/Location/Search/Bluetooth and WLAN Search

Settings/Wlan/Advanced WLAN Settings/Wlan on Standby always on to NEVER

AT least Disable Wlan
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] madeinchina123:
Hi all,

Here is my battery life.

It's mixed use and both power saver on/off.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlodykaras:
Like I said in my original post ;) everything is disabled related to WiFi... Scanning, reporting, standby, notifications etc. Even tried WiFi always off during sleep. Still the same thing.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Show us your screenshot like this:

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] high_voltage:
Some apps like viber can block wifi turning off. Check viber settings-->general-->wifi sleep policy.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlodykaras:
Wow thx fot that. Didn't know that an app can actually do that! Wholy moly [emoji33] Now everything is back to normal thx!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] navanibingo007:
text reader..dark theme enabled
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr.Jamil:
Thanks man. New information to me too...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] high_voltage:
My advice is always to check apps settings as I found not only such wifi keep awake settings, but also a lot of anon usage data send without asking that can be turned off... :/
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Man im not coming this thread anymore:eek:

I get jelous seeing figures like 6H SOT.

When I only get 3-4 with similar use.

Congrats seems like you're satisfied:good:

Is your display Sharp or Tianma?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
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That's about the best I've had.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] amq:
[MENTION=2880355]dladz[/MENTION], hm, that cell standby doesn't seem to be normal, the most I had was 8% - after almost 3 days of uptime and 6 hours of SOT.

Btw, you have 31% of battery left. I'd suggest posting at 1-2% to avoid confusion :cyclops:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
I did yea, i won't allow my phone to get to 1 - 2%, i also use my phone for work, i make a lot of calls so i'd assume it's going to be quite high no??
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jbm76:
This is the best I've had, been flashing so much so haven't had too many days where I have had a full charge cycle.

Leedroid current SVN (this was about a few ver back)

Elementalx kernel stock settings
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] AliLaPointe:
Feeling pretty satisfied with this battery life coming from Nexus5View attachment 3801069View attachment 3801070View attachment 3801071
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
The charts reveal you know what you're doing.. ?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supreme_One:
Does everyone have Wifi always on?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rowbaggie22:
I always do unless I can't get internet with it or it slow then I use LTE
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Perooo1:
Ok, so yesterday was lazy day for me. As you can see mostly YouTube and twitch as I was using secondary phone for messenger :S

Full stock, unrooted, unlocked European.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rdmack:
Here's a nice run-down of my phones battery. 16½ hrs on. Use was quite different to usual, lots of camera use, not as much audio and probably not as much snapchat as normal

Pleased with SOT too. Battery Saver turns on at 20%
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
Full time on LTE no Wi-Fi at all

Mostly chatting apps , twitter , facebook YouTube , camera , and some other sniper zeroing apps ! Pretty happy with this result
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
3h40 SoT in 11H

No idea what this IPA_WS is though.

And Google Service doing stuff -.-
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Jup jup jup,

Being a Tourist really Stresses this phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
5th cycle after fresh install of stock rooted. Service is not great but holding up well.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
with multiple reboots and still holding on good :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
Verizon 1.19.605.22 base Stock ROM (with personal smali MODs) with ElementalX v0.06 kernel.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bader23:
How do I work this?

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Why brightness ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
Although I am very happy with the phone overall I feel that battery life sucks.

Took out of charger last night, then did a reboot to avoid the googlebackup bug and left it overnight. Went from 99% to 88% in 7 hours. Wi-Fi was on. A note 5 that was next to it went from 100 to 99 during those 7 hours. However the note 5 has nothing configured (mails fb instagram etc).

Στάλθηκε από το HTC 10 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] importtuner419:
How do you get your Wi-Fi to turn completely off? I've tried everything and it's always running in the background. I know once I get that sorted, I'll get great battery life.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] JWhetstone02:
Settings > WiFi > Advanced > Keep WiFi on during sleep

changing it there doesn't help?

-HTC 10-
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
What is "why brightness?" suppose to be asking?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] importtuner419:
I've set that to "Only while plugged in" and I've also turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth scanning in location settings and I've disabled Google location services. I can't figure out why my battery history shows a persistent Wi-Fi bar even when I'm on LTE.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bader23:
Why not say how much the brightness ? brightness important in battery test ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] andybones:
Lol. Brightness is kept as low as possible, thought this would be assumed.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bader23:
How much screen brightness?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bader23:
How is that ? I want tips
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mirost1:
Can i SOT somehow on stock rom?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] masi0:
Help me because I am freaking out. 1st charge battery went to 20% in 21hrs mostly in idle. Next charge it was much better and I have managed to get 1.5 day of moderate use. 2nd charge and phone lost 10% in 2 hours of lying in my desk! What's wrong with that phone? I have exact same config as on my s7e so there is nothing unusual and nothing actually eating my battery.

Wysłane z mojego SM-T815 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Install a Wakelock detector and find out what's wrong?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jocarog:
Viper Rom

Elemental Kernel
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ba7rani:
View attachment 3829144

Latest fw 1.90.401.X

Viper Rom 2.6.0

Stock kernel

Xposed installed
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] JohnCorleone:
The setup at the time was simply rooted stock with systemless Xposed and I use Greenify. Having Xposed adds features to Greenify....that's pretty much it..oh, and I disabled (or you can delete if rooted) the bloat carrier apps and a few Google apps. I don't use Google Music or Google Movies, etc