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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] baltika09:
I just cracked my LCD on my AT&T Tilt...gonna order a new one from http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/ next week when I get home from vacation...if the screen works right I'll post confirming that that site definitely sells replacements for the AT&T Tilt specific model. hope so :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robroth:
btw, did they include the necessary torx driver?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fcreeves:
Does anyone know where to get replacement screws? I successfully replaced the sliding mechanism on my Tilt ,but lost a couple of screws in the process. I plan on replacing the entire case to hide all of my damage so an an assortment of screws would be ideal for future loss of screws.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andru1313:
I have a new housing for my tilt but want to use my exisitng keyboard. how do I take my keyboard off the current housing and put it on the new one. I have been unable to view any DIY on how to remove the keyboard. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tapanp:
works like a charm, ATT Tilt screen replaced

I bought my ATT Tilt replacement screen from blackberry8100parts. com

the screen came with a T6, you definitely need that if you want to take the phone apart, starting under the battery unit.

However like several other users have commented I too discovered that you can replace the screen by just opening up the four screws under the screen and getting the faceplate off from three sides, the one closest to the tilt(hinge) still not completely out.

So I ordered a T4, thats what you need to unscrew the front of the phone, under the screen. I wrote to Blaine at blackberry8100parts. com and he was considerate to refund back $10 towards the T4 i bought. It didn't cover the cost of the T4 set and shipping, but what the hell, it was still something. Nice person to deal with and the best prices as well, would definitely recommend blackberry8100parts. com

Just follow instructions that everyone else has posted, it took me, a complete novice to mobile phone repairs around 1 hour to get the job done, you just need patience and be careful not to use too much force or too little.

Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, xda-developers rocks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
I sure hope you knew there was a visual disassembly guide.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shinydoc:
Yes, I did, but didn't want to completely take my phone apart when it was possible to carefully shortcut.

There were some good pictures and tips here, some not appropriate for this model, and you can never have too much help when you have never done this before!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robroth:
congrats, glad you got it to work, i was reading your post going WTF, why did you go through all that, it's 4 screws, leave the back of the frame attached, dont worry about the hinges, theres enough room to do everything without removing the entire case frame, then got to your part about the shortcut way which is perhaps what im talking about. no worries about speakers and keypads and what not.

in this pic here, the phone is disassembled enough to change the screen already, no need to go any further:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shinydoc:
Agreed, the quick way worked for me fine. (see my notes a few replies earlier)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bigbutter:
[re: robroth]

Exactly. Once I got into the last part it wasn't as bad as I thought, and if I have to do it again I'm doing it that way for sure. One other thing is that the tutorials (even for the shortcut) talked about the small ribbon you need to disconnect that connects the screen circuit board to the SIM card slot. The photos all showed a dangling ribbon loose inside the case. In mine the ribbon was attached to the upper side, so just prying it apart was enough to seperate it. I thoguht I did something wrong because I didn't have anything to do at that step. Not sure if its a one off difference or if there's a manufacturing change. Just something to be aware of.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] togles:
This repair took me 15 min from start to finish! I have the AT&T Tilt version of the KAiser, so no having to deal with the front camera screw or anything, just the 4 screws off the back of the screen and popped the cover starting with the sides first and it was very simple.

NICE to be back up and running! Now I just want to send the broken screen back to HTC and let them know that they can have this piece of crap that broke for no reason. MAybe if we all do that they will take a hint.

One thing that occured to me in this whole experience. I had installed kaiser tweaks 1 day before my screen cracked and some of the settings that I tweaked were dealing with the touch screen sensitivity. It only makes me wonder if that MAY have contributed to the cracking of the LCD screen or not.

Just a thought.

Todd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shinydoc:
I have the front camera Kaiser model and I didn't have to do anything with this camera screw that users are talking about??? I think my disassembly (the 4 screw quick method) was the same as the tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
I have the same question..... anybody know how to take out the just keyboard? I can't find any DIY's on this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Hey Guys -- Dropped my Tilt after a fun night of spirits with some buds. Cracked the digitizer but the LCD is still perfect. Hunted around and found a place on eBay that will sell the digitizer alone for $9.99 + $3.99 shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220237115384

Question -- You guys that had your LCD assembly out -- did it appear possible / easy to separate the digitizer (touch screen) from the LCD beneath???

I figure if I can't separate them, I'm out $14.00 and will just go to http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/ATT-TILT-LCD-Replacement-Screen-W-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-TD028TTEB3_p_0-70.html and get the full assembly.

More importantly -- THANKS for the 4 screw method of replacement. I really didn't want to take the whole thing apart just to get to the Digitizer / LCD assembly and figured there had to be a better way...

Anyone with thoughts regarding the separation of the digitizer / touch screen from the LCD, I'm all ears!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robroth:
From what I've seen first hand and heard from others, it does not appear to be possible to separate the touch screen overlay from the LCD.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Thanks for the feedback. That's what I'm fearing. I read the reference guide and they talk about adhesives around the LCD assembly and even adhesive tape... Not sure but I'll be the test-rat. I figure, there's no harm (just time and a little dough) and if I trash the LCD trying to separate them, who cares??? Just wanted to find someone who's done it and knows for sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robroth:
you could try a hair dryer or heat gun to see if that works on the adhesives. i actually used a hair dryer to cleanly remove the stickers from the back of my cracked ATT screen and put them on my replacement screen (which didn't work) so i could send the phone back to ATT for repair :). I wanted the new screen to look like the ATT screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Thanks for the idea. I'll report back what happens once I get the digitizer and start to dismantle. I also purchased a full torx set from the came company for $10.00 as I have a Dell Axim 51v that my brother dropped and cracked it's digitizer so figured I'd like having the tools. Once the tools and the digitizer for the Tilt come, I'll know more. I'm actually looking forward to the "procedure..."

I figure if it's possible and relatively easy, people will appreciate knowing they can save the dough and just get the digitizer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shinydoc:
I have just had a looked at the old broken screen I took out and there are 1mm strips of adhesive on all 4 sides holding the Digitizer onto the screen (see photo). If these didn't come with the replacement, I would suggest that they would be extremely difficult to manufacture and implement in a satisfactory manner.

It also didn't want to pull apart, so I guess you may need to use an extremely thin craft knife to slide between and cut apart. Might be worth a go if you have the parts, you have nothing to lose I guess if it's already broken?

When you have been successful, perhaps you can post to let us all know how you got on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] imgladuhateme555:
please do post the results of your experiment with the digitizer because somehow i put a "dent" or something... like a large fairly deep scratch in the center of my screen. it hasnt cracked the lcd or digitizer and i believe its only deep enough to be on the digitizer. so if i can fix this ugly spot for only $15 instead of $70-80 price tag of both the lcd and digitzer it would be wonderful!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Thanks for the picture! Exactly -- Nothing to lose. They come as an assembly as everyone knows so the extent of my exposure is lost time and about $14.00. So I'm going to hope for the best. I'm going to be cutting 1mm strips of electrical tape I expect. I know I read about adhesive tape in the reference manual PDF that I downloaded so I'm not surprised to see it in your picture. I'm more worried about not damaging my existing LCD than I am worried about the re-assembly. This will be "fun!"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shinydoc:
It's a pretty 'intense' experience taking it apart anyway, worrying not to snap anything on your expensive phone! You say electrical tape - don't forget it will need to be double sided adhesive. I think if you can slice it apart with a razor blade, clean it off with some alcohol and cotton bud and then use the double sided tape in that has the paper on one side you should be able to cut strips thin enough to hold it on. Just watch out for any fingerprints/dirt/dust that you may accidentally put between them before you stick back together!

GOOD LUCK!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] imgladuhateme555:
seems someone has done it successfully here, tho he said

"However note the incredible tough digitizer seperation (plus the so-so dig-to-LCD connection). I'd do the digitizer+LCD as a single piece for $60 if I did it again."

but if it works out well for you i think ill try it too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Thanks for the posts guys (and the link, imgladuhateme555 -- interesting thread)! Thinking this might blow up on me but that's ok -- I'll be right where I would have been anyway but out some lost time w/o the tilt (the worst part) and purchasing the whole assembly together. I'm pretty handy at tedious type stuff / very good with my hands so I'm hopeful. Still wouldn't be surprised if I mess up the LCD or have trouble with alignment / cleanliness. We'll see!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] imgladuhateme555:
i dont think alignment will be a very big problem... even if its turned slightly or placed off center that would get worked out with the alignment process in WM but cleanliness does sound a little tricky.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
I'm optimistic. I have patience. The cleanliness / lint / dust issue is a challenge I have two great danes in my household and it's very hard with dog dander dust floating around -- certainly NOT an ISO9006 cleanroom environment! :p. Might turn off the A/C and go into a quiet "clean room" where the dogs don't go to limit the dust floating in the air....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Moaske:
I saw someone else asking in this thread for how to replace the keyboard, and he got no answer....

Maybe it helps if more people (like me) start asking? :)

I've ordered the orange housing from CNN.cn, so i guess i'll have to pop out the keyboard to put it in the new housing.

Has anyone done this before, and can you please give us some clues on how to this than?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
Ah cool, I saw that Orange casing on there the other day. Take some pics for us after you install so we can see how it looks! :)

Anyway, I emailed the guy at cc.cn about the keyboard a couple days ago and he said it was held on just with adhesives. That may be true, but in the disassembly pic, there’s a keyboard ribbon to unhook that looks to be on the opposite side of the motherboard, so I’m thinking I have to take the thing apart either way. It’s hard to tell from the pics though just what all is involved. Hopefully somebody can give us some more info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Moaske:
I will... :)

I haven't opened up my Kaiser yet, cause the parts haven't arrived yet...but i would really like to know about the keyboard before i start... Don't wanna end up with an opened Kaiser without knowing how to complete the housing-change....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
You already saw this I assume? They show how to take the Kaiser apart, but they never take the keyboard off, so not much detail on that part.

http://translate.google.com/transla.../razbor_htc_kaiser/&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=ru&tl=en
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Moaske:
You assumed that spot on... :D (err...second post in this thread..eh?)

So some more info that's actually usefull in this matter anyone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Moaske:
Good news; just received the Orange OEM housing today, and the keyboard is included in the package (pre-attached to the main section) :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jayadam63:
Ok. Digitizer came in along with a complete torx tool set (I wanted more than just the #4 and #60).

My recommendation: DON'T ATTEMPT THIS.

Although I got the glass off the LCD (yes, it all shatters right before your eyes so wear eye protection) w/o damaging the LCD, the project is a pain in the fanny. It's very very very hard in the sense that after you get the glass off, you still have to remove the ribbon cable from the LCD (taped on) and then clean the adhesive from around the frame of the LCD w/o hurting it, affix the new ribbon cable from the digitizer / glass to the old LCD and then the fun starts. You have to find a way to get the glass to adhere to the frame of the LCD. But whatever you do, it can't be thicker than the prior double sided adhesive or the whole case won't snap back shut!!!

After fiddling endlesslly, I'm going to now place my order with 1800blackberry dude. Don't need the tools so maybe I can get a mild discount?

Bottom line -- I'm glad I tried it for the $14.00 it cost. Now I know -- better to get the whole digitizer / LCD assembly at once.

Thanks for following....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Troc:
Hi everyone,

I decided to replace just the front cover of my Tilt (mysteriously got 3 dents and major scratchs, investigation in course, main suspects: kids and dog). After reading the thread I figure I'll have to go for the complete disassembly, right? Another question: I have T-05 and T-06 Torx. Will I really need the T-04 or the T-05 will do?

TIA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
Huh... cool, so for me I'm better off buying a new housing too and just switching the whole thing out. You get the case on yet? Take some pics...... I may go for the orange too if it looks cool. It was hard to tell the real shade of the color from that cnn.cn site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
hey guys, i feel soo stupid, but here goes:

i'm trying to replace the keyboard on my tilt, ordered the keyboard from cnn, and am now trying to open it.. i'm stuck at the very beginning part; trying to remove the speaker... according to the dismantle guide, it says: flip the flat plastic stick to release the locks at the following locations... am i just blind? any help would be great, thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
The stick they refer to is just their spatula like tool to lift (flip) up the speaker assembly. The trick is to insert the tool at the correct locations. It will take quite a bit of fiddling as the speaker assembly has click in grips all around. You can use a very fine bladed screwdriver, but it could nick the plastic. Hope the diagram below helps:

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
k guys, disregard my last post, i figured it out... however, i'm a little upset at this point. i've completely taken apart my tilt, and still cant figure out how to replace the keyboard! this is what i'm getting in the mail:

http://cnn.cn/shop/tytn-iitilt-inner-keyboard-p-2058.html

this is what i have right now:

whats the deal?? how do i replace teh keyboard??? how do i remove it from the black casing??

ps. thanks mike for ur reply

thanks

omar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Hi Omar

Can you give us a detailed pic of the reverse side of the keyboard. I have not replaced one on the Kaiser. The Hermes one has screws on the reverse side for the board and the actual keys part then just lifts out.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
hey mike,

here are the pics, it seems like i need to remove that big metal plate (red arrows) and it seems to be held on by the three white pieces (black arrows) which seem to be welded on.... either way if you have any ideas i'm all ears :)

thanks

omar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
yaa that metal plate is not coming out.. its part of the entire casing... dunno just put it back together and for some reason, whenever i put it to sleep, the screen comes back on and the calender app is opened??! ha have any idea whats going on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
when the phone comes on from standby, the calender button looks like its being pressed on the screen... weird, cuz i never even opened up the screen assembly... ekh, gotta take it back apart again and make sure everything is good i guess......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
ok i opened it up and made sure everything is good... the screen is still turning on randomly with the calender app open...

more weirdness... if i leave the phone to go into standby by itself, the screen wont turn back on.. but when i turn it on myself, the calender app is open

any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
no one?......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] john9537:
Thanks

Just got my replacement screen in and it is installed! Thanks for the info Mario and everyone.

John
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pazookie:
this may have been coverd but i recently dissassembled my tilt to solder a miniusb port pin back on to its contact and i lifted the VOID sticker off the screw and stored it safely away and saw that that screw had a material on the inside..i removed the screw by carefully inserting the torx not touching the base and screwing it out not to disturb that material..i chose not to replace the screw but my questions is say i have to send it back for warranty..and i get that screw back in without messing with that material and place the sticker back on...are there any other warranty voiding methods they use (like i noticed that blue stuff ont he screws)..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MikeChannon:
Regarding the problem with getting the keypad out it's plastic surround. It does seem to be glued or heat sealed into place and is NOT easily removed even with cutting around the edge of the metal plate.

So for anyone considering a new keypad, I would advise that you get the part built into the plastic surround and NOT the keypad by itself.

This link shows the part I would suggest (complete assembly) as well as the keyboard by itself:

http://www.ppctechs.com/AT-T-Tilt_974/repairs/Do-It-Yourself-Repair.htmhttp://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p....html?osCsid=7dd262527aa10fb640479dcb21ddf1c0

But see this post about key mapping: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2299892&postcount=131

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MannyNoela:
I cannot agree with Mikechannon more,

I went through the same hustle with the keypad.

Compare what cnn.cn has available here: http://cnn.cn/shop/tytn-iitilt-inner-keyboard-p-2058.html

to

what GSM4world.com sells here: http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p....html?osCsid=7dd262527aa10fb640479dcb21ddf1c0

Big difference. Finally I ordered one, incidentally from the gsm4world. It arrived very quickly. I installed it, but some of the keys were not working. So they gladly exchanged it for me, and the keypad works perfectly now.

So, it is best to get the entire keyboard, including the surrounding plastic, and not just the keypad itself, as sold on cnn.cn

rgds, MN
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
Good advice about the keyboard guys. This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thx!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mic_888:
I replaced the complete housing on my Kaiser the other night as I bought it off ebay and the housing was scratched and a bit loose. Also the keyboard was a bit old looking so replaced everything!!! My Kaiser looks like new now :D

The keyboard that came with the housing was exactly the same as my original one. It took me about 2 hours to get it all done - only needed torx 6 and a small screwdriver (for glasses) plus the plastic tool which the most important part of the toolset - you can't get everything apart without it.

I was going to take photos and post - but a) thought someone would have posted already) and b) was too keen on getting it all done quickly before it got dark!! :D

I've got quite a good set of instructions with photos and text - the only fiddly bit is connecting up the sim connection and keyboard ribbon.

The first time I put everything back together I didn't connect the ribbon properly and stupidly did not test the keyboard before I screwed the backing back on :o

If anyone is interested or wants the instructions, PM me and I'll send.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] omaralt:
hey thanks mike,

i wish i had seen this before! i ended up selling my tilt as is, but its good to know. the only thing is that you guys need to be aware that this keyboard is for the tytn II, not the tilt, they're interchangable physically, but some of the keys are mapped differently. however, if you flash over to a htc rom, the keyboard will work great

omar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mic_888:
Kaiser housing - step by step instructions

Ok, had some requests so it's easier to post here than email.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ismithnc:
Good stuff. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kaushik_shah:
Phillips head screwdriver - where to get it?

After reading all the successful stories of fixing broken LCD in AT&T tilt, I too have ordered the screen from blackberry8100parts.

They said they send all the required tools except the Phillips head #0 screwdriver.

What is the best place to get it? Is it available in Wal-Mart, Home Depot?

Is it strictly mandatory ("do not start without it") to have this tool?

Please advice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jonky2000:
Kaiser/Tilt Screen broken - 10% off parts

I broke my screen and ordered a new one from FONLOGIX -

(blackberry8100parts.com) $59

Had a new screen to my Seattle address and it arrived the NEXT DAY :). They sent me all the tools and was packaged nice - I highly recommend.

Here's a discount code they sent me:

WE are doing a new promotion for XDA- Developers

10% off, I posted a $6 credit back to your credit card for you.

the coupong code for this discount is XDA.

you could post it on XDA-davelopers that would helpful

-Blaine

PS it came with 2 hex/star tools. Luckily I have a philips (doesn't everyone???) :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jonky2000:
Screen Replaced!

I have the ATT Tilt. Got the screen in without full disassembly. Had the white screen, tried again and sure enough it was the black connector which I must have disconnected accidentally.

Thanks to everyone here and Blair at 800blackberryparts! Rock on!