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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bllooi:
Maybe you just got a bad unit? My screen is completely fine without the pink tint or any vertical lines. And hey, at least you have an HTC 10 rather than an S7 Edge (*cough* development doesn't look at great for that phone). Viper is gonna be a great upgrade for the audio coming out of the phone but just before you flash/install viper remember to change /system/etc/htc_audio_effects.conf to htc_audio_effects.bak

It's so that viper doesn't conflict with boomsound & Dolby. Don't worry you can still use both at the same time or one only. The amp and DAC is really good. Just have to know how to utilise it :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
i dont know sRGB feels too yellowish but Vivid with warm is actually really pleasant to use and more accurate of course, the purple shift on angles was annoying me a little but then i figured purple must be caused by the extra blue and so shifting to warm a little made a big difference
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ribicahhh:
just received my unlocked European carbon grey with SHARP display, also have glacier silver one with TIANMA (or however you write it) and sharp one is the one I prefer.. less pink in different viewing angles.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] davidplz:
Carbon grey with sharp panel

I received it yesterday. The screen is a joy to use, just perfect
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwbasti:
I couldn't resist and had to order a new 10 :D

The new one is a FA663. So a device of a pretty new "batch" with Sharp display.

My old one had a ridiculous pink tint that was the reason why I returned it.

The display of the new one is a real joy. It might have a really really slight pink tint but it could just be imagination. Or the comparison to my One M8 that has a slight blue tint.

After all i'm quiet satisfied with the new device and I might keep it eventually ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vancecwtan:
Sent mine in yesterday for slight yellow tint at bottom of screen and obvious bleeding. <br />

<br />

FA64N

Hoping I will get a new device instead of a repaired one.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tornado6:
U are from KL right? Where did you get your unit? DirectD?

I got mine from them, imported from Taiwan .709 set. Panel is from Tianma, yellowish tint can be seen when the hardware buttons light is on
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cdd543:
Did you order from the US? I'd love to try another one, but not unless I can get the sharp screen.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpert3:
It is TIANMA, you got it right.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] davidplz:
Nope

I ordered from a local carrier in Spain. I think the phone came from the UK
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] komugi:
So I'm not sure, which exactly is better? Tianma or Sharp?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
I have a Tianma display and have zero issues. Some can say the same for Sharp.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] CrazyCypher:
Bought from Si.Mobil in Slovenija, Carbon Gray, Sharp panel. No red tint, no lines, absolutely gorgeous :) Serial number FA65M.

My girlfriends Glacier silver has Tianma display and I compared them side by side and there is no visible red tint on neither. Also not from the sides. :)

Both phones are fantastic and perfect built quality, the only difference is Sharp is visible with polarised glasses in portrait and Tianma not.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Same here, have tianma since early may and 0 issues
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadcapl:
I just got mine. Mine is with sharp panel, FA656. Vertical lines are there, visible when there is white background. I can say it is on the warm side, pinkish could be said but lot better compared to my note 2's amoled. Unfortunately my m8's LCD is broken can't compare with that.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] flowtec:
I am on sharp - no issues so long with the Display.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mariorenz:
FA662 Sharp panel no tint issue
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tfouto:
there should be a poll about the pink screen or no issues screen
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dazultra2000:
UK, Sharp, FA65L

Definitely a pink tinge to the screen compared to my M8, but to me the M8 looks a bit blue. I prefer the way the 10 looks. No lines that I can see.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
I don't see any pink. I do see that the 10 has a warmer display than the M8(which is very cold in your picture). Your M8 looks much colder than mine.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
New 10 on the way, other one returned.

KInda hoping I get a sharp again, the tianama just doesnt look as good compared to sharp judging by this video

[YOUTUBE]LZlNy2ApF6Q[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadcapl:
I don't believe that there are sharp screens without vertical lines. You just don't see it. I have a strong UV flashlight, it makes the lines pretty obvious. I don't know what are those lines about, maybe digitizer. I checked HTC 10 , Sony Zx1 and Samsung Note 2. Zx1 has horizontal lines, note 2 has rectangular shape, HTC 10 has vertical all three lines clearly visible under UV. Other than that you have to look very close with full white background in order to see vertical lines of HTC. Not visible on daily usage thus not a problem. Reddish tint be annoying tho'.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
I may be imagining but I'm sure I can see lines on your pictures faintly.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlynounou:
Same thing, i can see the lines on the picture but they are not very visible, i've to make an effort to see them.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Anxious waiting on my phone to come tomorrow, hoping its Sharp again just for things like brightness and the less likelihood of a tint.

But Tianma is more efficient? I was having less than stellar battery hmm.

Maybe I won't mind getting a Tianma if when I get it looks okay etc.

Hope I dont have send back again and play the display lottery lol, because Very will be thinking wtf am I doing haha.

But judging by this thread Carbons from Very all seem to Sharp so lets hope that trend is still continuing.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dazultra2000:
Hmm I guess maybe the lines are visible on mine, but I have to look really hard for them. Would never have noticed in normal use
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadcapl:
Here is horizontal lines on my Sony ZX1:

And the vertical lines on HTC:

Here is Samsung Galaxy Note2:

Soon I am going to compare HTC 10's earphones with my Pfe 232's:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
FA64L Sharp again Carbon grey.

Let's see how i get on with this in terms of battery etc
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
this goes without saying: make sure to place your vote and not only state that you have this screen or that, thanks ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
lol

Man only 1 sharp in the bunch, guess that answers that question
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vancecwtan:
So far I have no issue with the TIANMA panel. TIANMA is a major OEM in China. Cheaper than Sharp? Probably. But their products are not at all bad.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
Eu / UK sharp panel , faint vertical lines down screen white backgrounds. Think it's something to do with the panel as you can see the lines under direct light with the lcd of , similar to lcds I've seen in past. Auto brightness seems to aggressive for this panel also I've had to set it to 60% brightness. No pink hue what so ever.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] johnbrighton:
Same - I have EU model, SD820, SHARP panel. I can confirm above, but only after looking for it. I think the panel is good, my whites are white and it can go really bright.....I turned mine down to about 40%

We'll see if I can forgot about these vertical lines now I know about them?!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
Glad it's not just me, I don't have the best of luck. I'm not sure if my eyes are getting used to lines or there improving my gf is of the opinion they have improved.

The panel is bright first thing I noticed on boot up.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
standalone device... MEA region...Tianma...

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
UK grey version from CPW... Sharp
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jooosty:
Tianma here. Looks very nice?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] paradox183:
Tianma. US unlocked carbon gray
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] heslo.rb26:
Tianma here too.... Telstra Australia handset
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Peanutsfr:
Hello,

SHARP screen on FR / Bouygues Telecom HTC 10 Carbon Grey.

No Pink hue.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] UgXvibe:
TIANMA here.. Verizon version.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eivissa:
Sharp Panel from O2 Germany online purchase. No Red-Tint issues here.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
even at extreme side angle ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
Intersting, let's see if new batches are Sharp
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
try to understand please, because its sometimes so hard with you:

The panels are completely random, suppliers for the HTC 10 panel are Tianma and Sharp, its not batches or defects, both panels have it's own merits

and i would say the same about the Tianma as well "no red tint issues here" and many people reported the same, the issue appears on angle shift and is chromatic (ie: it shifts and changes when you move the phone, like you see on so many Amoled devices)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eivissa:
No, its just darker at an angle. The blue tint on the pictures actually comes from the Z5 Compact camera.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
yes but we need a more extreme angle please

also pic2 is showing the UV chromatic shift i was talking about

[MENTION=2208282]eivissa[/MENTION] do you mind to take more shots from more extreme angles at a completely dark room please? also what the first initials of your serial number?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eivissa:
I dont see the point of testing these extreme angles as to "why would I ever bother to look from that angle at my phone?"...but here you go:

Pictures now taken with a Nikon D3100 in a dark room. The display is just plain white and dims with the angle. The brightness is also equally spread over the screen and even at an angle the display is still very bright. No complaints whatsoever!

SN: FA64NBN.....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] evak2979:
how is the tint/vertical lines this time around?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
No tint as far as i can see, didnt really have one before on my previous sharp.

Vertical lines, i didn't notice them or really check on my last one.

Vertical lines are definitely present on this model
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sirioo:
HTC__001 UK

FA65M Sharp Carbon Grey.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
Let's be clear about this:

Sharp:

- more yellow

- 10% brighter

- better view angles

- polarized portrait

- faint but visible diagonal or vertical grid in whites

Tianma:

- less yellow, slightly more pleasing colours

- 10% darker

- more color shifting on view angles

- polarised landscape

- no visible grid

Overall the sharp is the higher quality panel

Both are made to the same spec but each factory has different quality output

Some Tianma ones are really good and some sharp are worse, but overall the sharp is more consistent quality panel

It's a real shame HTC dual sourced the 10 panel

I say this while fully enjoying my Tianma unit, I love the screen it's dramatically better than the M9 screen and a lot more accurate than the s7 sexy Amoled, I can't bring myself to lose time or money for a 10% better panel, besides i really dislike the visible grid on the Sharp
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Serenei:
FA654 . Carbon grey, Eu unit, Sharp panel.

No yellow/ pink tint whatsoever. vertical lines with screen off, but nothing noticeable when on.

perfectly happy :) .
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Not sure how I feel about these vertical lines, didn't notice then on my last unit but this unit seems more prominent?

Makes the screen look dirty when on white backgrounds.l, slightly annoying.

Reminds me of papaya paper LMAO

How I hate this display lottery?

But I'll use it for the next week and see, but finally back to using a fast phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nphil:
Every ODM on the planet dual sources major components, it's a business decision. Why? You want to have leverage with the vendors to get the lowest cost, you want a steady supply chain in case something goes wrong with one vendor, etc. etc. The focus is to make the part as identical as possible across multiple manufacturers. You might not realize how many parts on your phone are dual sourced, it just so happens that this time there is an easy way to figure out who made what panel specifically.

I've seen both of these "different" panels in action in person, the differences are negligible unless you're realllllly anal about it. Stop obsessing over minor imperfections and just be happy with your display people!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skr_xd:
Display calibration is the key point here.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...is-the-leading-iphone-6-display-supplier.html
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
both panels are calibrated 95% the same except that one panel is displaying inferior properties to the other (unrelated to calibration) you can ask an average user to accept his display if he didnt see the other, but if you see the sharp its your right to feel your ten is a bit inferior
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr. lele:
Have a gray 10 from Telekom Germany. Tianma Panel(voted ;)). Absolutely happy about the screen and I am baffled how some reviewers said it would not be bright enough. A lot brighter than my M7s screen.

What I don't like is the ghosting/tearing and low minimum brightness. In both regards my M7 faired a lot better.

Still a great display, couldn't be happier with the overall experience.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tuga13:
Bought on eBay from HK and has a Sharp panel
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skr_xd:
Umm. Yet to see a 10 with sharp panel here. It's almost zero for UAE I guess. With new batches, may change in future though.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
yeah it seems like that though....

HTC__J15 ?

but why the hype over sharp?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevin1610:
Sharp Panel here from Media Markt Germany.

Got mines today :)))))

I have a serious pink tint on my unit. dunno if it's me (used to m8 screen) or if it's really the screen

The m8 might maybe be too greenish and therefore has a bit colder tone. Maybe that's why this warm display on the 10 looks so reddish to me...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] iPixelsBoy:
FA65F, EMEA model(ksa). Sharp panel no pink tint but there is vertical lines, at least in low brightness.

Other than that I think the screen looks good, satisfies me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
the best way is to compare it with another Tianma HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] skinbis:
The pink tint on my tianma panel just got worse all of a sudden
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kokusho:
My new HTC 10 (from Ebay.fr , imobile.fr (UK version) is a Sharp panel.

It looks very good, no noticible flaw. (yes with polarised sunglasses you can see the line but I don't care)

It's up there with the One X panel, I'm very happy about the display.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Lol so got another 10 for the means of comparison, a white model since it seems like Tianma seems more common on that colour bit nope Sharp again here in the UK.??

Was so obvious when I was angling and it had lines, then devcheck confirmed.

I just wanted to see how battery performed on a tianma model with my usage, and see if it was better and add my 2p to the efficiency debate.

FA65

Guess I'll be sticking with my carbon grey sharp panel.

Useless for me, will be returning to Amazon.

That's 3 phones now I've had with Sharp, 2 carbons and now a white.

Interesting observation nonetheless.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
so the Sharp is really more common in the UK?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
From my experience yeah looks like it.

I purposely didnt order the Carbon as many in this thread reported there's had a Sharp, plus it seemed to backordered on Amazon UK. So went for White and still ended up with Sharp.

Maybe I'm just destined to stay with Sharp and the phone gods dont want me to get a Tianma and compare to the two:D

---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

One thing I have noticed is that my carbons screen is much warmer than the screen on the white sharp.

Got them both on full auto brightness and it's noticeable, not touched the display setting both on default vivid.

Time to adjust my settings, always thought it looked a bit warm and yellower but putting them by side has highlighted this.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevin1610:
Can u add a pic?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] reihead:
FA651
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] arrowblade:
Hey guys, i got an HTC 10 from Taiwan, manufactured on April 12th and came with a Tianma screen.

Under certain light or from off-axis, the screen can seem quite pink.

The biggest surprise came a couple of days ago.

I was under the impression that the consensus was sharp has lots of vertical lines running down the screen whereas the Tianma doesn't but tends to be pinker from off angles and is frustratingly polarised in portrait orientation.

While i was holding the phone at an angle, and in just the right light and right angle, i see vertical lines on my screen too! I can see them screen powered off, or on a white background, but only if i tilt the phone just right.

I've been trying to keep up with the thread but i don't recall anyone seeing vertical lines on their Tianma yet, right?

Just me? :p
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] iPixelsBoy:
Sharp, FA65F. having this weird dark leak at the top left of my display, only visible when looking at it from an angle.

Am I the only one?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpert3:
That's very very interesting... What's the cause?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
already stated some out of box Tianma units especially the very early ones didn't have the glue cured, it took a week or two to cure and get brighter as you can see in my photos that you've quoted, but many recent Tianma units are cured out of box they just get fractionally brighter in few days

still even after curing or an already cured Tianama will still display a sort of red shift on side view angles but it wont show a shift on portrait tilting or lower brightness

thanks to its red preference, the Tianama screen has very lush sexy colors when viewed flat, a little more enjoyable than the yellower Sharp panel but the Sharp panel is indeed the higher quality one as it has better view angles and around 50nits brighter

finally we should remember that recent HTC 10 batches are carrying the Sharp more often than the Tianma, what does this mean for future batches i have no idea
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
To be perfectly honest even though objectively I find the Sharp panel of higher quality I would have hard time letting go of my Tianma for a simple reason I have never seen such good whites from an Android device before the white are just neutralised which is really awesome and makes the whole thing so much more enjoyable
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tessut:
Can confirm that T-mobile Germany has only the sharp display panels have 5 devices all have the sharp panel an the vendor at the store also
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] neverborn:
Weird. My Tianma panel didn't seem to "cure" at all after 3 weeks. Screen was perfect at 90% brightness and up, but I cant use it like that all the time.. Finally sold the phone after several days of random reboots (factory reset twice) and the unacceptable (and quite inexplicable!) lag - shame as I really enjoyed the audio, camera and the form factor.

I'd really like to buy the 10 again, but as HTC doesn't have an official presence in my country I have to resort to online merchants. I wouldn't be able to choose between panels.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
Well things are about to get even more confusing

I just got my hand on a Tianma unit with virtually zero pink, in fact you would think it's a sharp

I'll post pics tonight

Go figure...

It's clearly a matter of factory calibration variance

I think all affected units need is color control from EX kernel and we reduce the red color that's it
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
Lags n reboots? Looks like a rotten unit
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
Left: FA64C with Tianma (my own unit)

Right: FA64J with Tianma

Full brightness, auto disabled, 1.80, the same difference in lowest brightness, only the chromatic shift sideways is the same
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhakjhuk1853:
I have got htc 10 cid 621 Taiwan Variant

Tianama Panel

Doesn't find it to be pink

Colours look accurate

My setting are vivid + 2 shade towards warm

However i have got a weird issue since last 2 days

I played gangster Vegas for 2 hours along with charging on

And it reacted with the screen got 2 small bright spot, infamously known as dead pixel.

Tried jscreen fix etc no luck

Any other method if someone had some issues

Bdw wud say quality control on Tianama panel sucks since Im playing same game on my 2 years old m8 no issues have been faced
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
Here is my Tianma. No pink here! Neither of the previous four Tianma HTCs at Verizon had pink either.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fun_key:
I do have a TIANMA device (FA66H) for now a week and it is somehow slightly pink under low luminosity and at some angle.

I might go against the flow here, but I do prefer the TIANMA over the Sharp. The first device I received was a Sharp and the red tint was really nagging me.

As the screen was brighter it was less visible at high luminosity, but as luminosity drop the shift to the red goes stronger on Sharp. This is particularly nagging as it is harder for your eyes to get used to the warmer color since it is always changing. I did compare my device with a sharp display device and it behaved the exact same way my initial sharp device did.

EDIT: Added pictures of the TIANMA
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mountainmohawk:
Is screen ghosting more visible on one panel versus another?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] theotrman:
I'm curious of this too. I see it when opening/closing the app draw. But really I see this incredibly so, on my Daughters Note 5. And very little on my M9.. I wonder too if it's intentional via sw.

My HTC 10 panel is Tianma
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] anndrenaline:
Btw did u notice this blueish shadow during normal use or is it just the photo?

I have a FA64C as well...and i do notice some shadowing at one side of the screen.

Htc 10's built quality is superb however the screen quality control and assembly is shocking.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] codeglitch:
I finally bought the 10! I got a uk unit with sharp panel, feeling like a 10 with this one :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] KotTHECat:
SHARP here, FA65N..., cant notice any shadowing...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
That usually happens when you take a picture of an LCD screen. You'll get some discoloration that doesn't happen in person. What's wrong with the screen quality control and assembly? I haven't found anything wrong with it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
i agree i dont have any of that from both device when seen by the eye
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nathasnajperowa:
So, my first unit was tianma panel, second one is sharp.

And they really differ, i mean tianma is much more worse in everything, as i unfortunately suspected.

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