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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kursatgoker:
SoT and help me

Hello friends;

You can see that I got 4 hrs SoT in 37 hours. Mostly on 3G. No social media app (only whatsapp), web browsing (Brave Browser, Opera Browser), some photo taking and K-9 Mail.AccuBattery shows %80-83 health and diagnostic test with *#*#3424#*#* shows %92 battery after 1 hour test. My android version is

1.95.401.4, cid HTC__M27. If you are in my place, which choice will you choose?

a) Continue with MM

b) Upgrade to Nougat

c) Upgrade to Oreo

d) Install custom ROM

Thanks for your answers.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] houston_:
How can I create logs like your graphs?

Oh and I wanted to ask, if you guys experience battery drain by using any music player (Spotify, DS Audio, Listen Audiobook Player for me), connected to a Bluetooth receiver, playing on headphones.

If I don't use music the battery life seems much better.

But using music for month now and never really "discovered" this drain.

Need to load after ~6h to get over the day.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] houston_:
Still thanks for the late response ?️

Last question, since we are just talking about this:

The big report has to be taken shortly before shutdown because of empty battery?

It is not cached from the last time?

About SoT...

I switched back to nougat and using a nougat Rom (Resurrection Remix) it is getting better because of this change, but to be honest... I just haven't noticed the dying battery before my first update to oreo...

Wasn't Oreo to be better about battery saving?

Well, I am gathering some more equipment for replacing my battery, before no replacements are available anymore.

Hoping to use my phone at leat one more year.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Batterystats get reset when the battery is charged to 100%.

So even if it crashes because of empty battery and you charge it back to 40% before restarting. It will show them from 100-0 and then back up to 40%.

But i prefer to keep em Clean and do until i reach almost 1% or when i'm done using my phone and want to start charging.

And i really would like to replace my battery, can get them for 25$ here. But i'm insecure. Heard of some people breaking their phone trying to repair. Seems pretty complicated to correctly reassemble. You really need to watch out for all connecting cables.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwake4goten:
Yeah I noticed if you turn radios off then HTC10 is really good but with radios on not as good.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwake4goten:
Canadian Bell unrooted stock version marshmallow

Just light usage including mainly Tapatalk and Bacon Reader little bit of YouTube and Brave browser. Screen brightness 40%, battery saver, sync on, wifi onView attachment 4501388View attachment 4501389
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwake4goten:
Power saver came on at 20% View attachment 4501391
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supreme_One:
I have a brand new original battery. Oreo is very bad my battery drain is unbelievable
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] asot800:
when replacing the battery how many hours of screen gives you, with the old battery how many you gave and you have problems heating the phone?,It improve the phone when changing it or it stays the same, I would appreciate if you answer me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
Can u share more info on your setup. That's considerably better than what I'm getting.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
Sure what do you want to know? See attached. I happen to think I still have too many wakelocks in the chart attached but not terrible
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
Finished this cycle...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Second day, after all the setups and updates.

Auto brightness, brightness slider at about 35% to 40% setting. It is still very visible outdoors.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniel2744:
so far so good

So I have any been using my htc 10 since monday afternoon. and i took this screenshot when i woke up on tuesday morning and just look at the flat line. just amazing. and i have no power saver options on. the total i got was around 5hrs20mins of SOT with about 22% left before i put on to charge so i could take the 1.53 update. for me this is more than enough and i don't feel the need to root or go s-off at the moment cause most times i did it so i could convert to a dev edtion but since i actually bought the unlocked model this year i just dont feel the need to yet and especially cause it seems that its a bit complex and easy to mess up if you are not paying attention to what your doing so i'm just wait for awhile...but anyways i think battery will improve as the days go on

edit:also forgot to mention that i have auto brightness and brightness at 50% for what thats worth and moto 360 2nd gen and fitbit one
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
So I get great battery also but you beat my sot by about an hour. Looking at your screenshot, you have virtually no wakelocks. How on earth did you accomplish that? See mine here. Not terrible but not as clean as yours.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniel2744:
I think it might have to do with the fact that I don't use instagram or snapchat. I also haven't gotten around to logging in to facebook yet either although I might just use the browser for that instead of the app. However I do have notications on for ESPN, MLB at Bat, and Fox Sports to which I get alerts all day
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TomF1979:
[MENTION=4997693]km8j[/MENTION]

What are your Setting for this great SoT?

Have you got WLAN, Bluetooth and Location disabled?

Br Tom
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dr.Jamil:
Why don't you try turning off NFC if you don't use it ? i think it's a good power drainer
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
I have Snapchat installed and signed in but hardly use it. No ESPN and Definitely no Facebook or anything similar. Those would also show under their respective apps, mine is showing under Android OS which is annoying.

No definitely not, I hate crippling my phone. Brightness around 40%, Bluetooth on and connected to a S2 all day, WiFi always on. Location always on with Google Now.

I think it is a myth that NFC drains power but I'll give it a shot.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] daboscovellen:
Mine barely made it 24 hours on this last charge (about 3 hours and 20 min SOT). But that's with no bluetooth, NFC, or location services, minimal game playing, on WiFi most of the day, no videos, and auto brightness on <50%. I feel that that's not particularly good - my 2 year old M8 did better after the MM update, with auto brightness on full. Is it just my bad cell reception? Any thoughts about how to improve things? On Verizon v. 1.19.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
You had terrible signal for most of your day, that will beat up your battery pretty hard. I will say though, I expected more out of this battery. I don't know how people are hitting 6+hrs unless they are hitting some extreme conditions like turning off location and reading ebooks.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Yeah, it's a myth. Power consumption of NFC in standby is negligible at best.

I'm not sure how it's implemented on the 10 but as far as I know, stock ROM's usually don't even have the NFC "active" unless the screen is on.

And when the screen is on, guess what's going to be consuming the greatest amount of battery?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] racingmatt1:
Are you using power saver mode because I couldn't see how you can see with it on. If no power saver, do you notice any bad side effects of battery drain? I'm using a sprint m9 even on a full day of strong Wi-Fi and cell tower strength I am lucky to get 3.5 hours SOT. My typical settings are location: battery saving, Wi-Fi only on when in range of router. Mobile data always on just in case I get too far from Wi-Fi range.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
Is anyone who's getting more than 4hrs SOT using the smart boost function?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Might also be omnious 4g Bug. Maybe 3g only will help?

Almost Hit 6h SoT :) activated Powersave Mode at 35% because I went out drinking.

Soooo... the first part is indoors with really low brightness..... guess that's the secret.

Oh yeah. The signal is red because there is no 2g in Japan ;)

And nope, I don't use SmartBoost anymore. Crap is closing the apps while im using them.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Power save only comes on at 15%. With power save set earlier, I think it will prolong the battery life a lot, longer. On my M9, I could hardly hit 4 hrs of SOT. I have used the same wallpaper, widgets etc on both.

I have left the Boot+ on.

Third day results :
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
I'm starting to see wakelock issues on Android OS and my battery went to crap
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
Stand by time on this thing is stupidly good!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gusoldier:
Do you have ES Explorer installed?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
This is my stats so far today after unplugging in the middle of the night. I'm really not a heavy user so no gaming what so ever and with being inside lost of the day I have not needed to put the brightness up. Currently at around 3.5h SOT for 50% battery life with 50 minutes of phone calls. Prior to the calls I was running down looking at around 8 hour SOT but don't know the phone well enough to know if this is achievable.

Have to say I'm really happy as I would never get this on my last phone (LG G4).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
No and they are getting worse. Phone won't sleep. I even rolled back updates on Google play services. I get temporary relief by restarting the phone but then it comes back.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] haZethew0rld:
Standby has been horrible for me so far, as well as battery life. Most I've got is 3hr SOT with just normal usage, auto brightness mostly wifi. Gonna wipe and try again.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
24% remaining, over 5hrs SOT

Check attached shots. On wifi and inside house, so low brightness in general.

I really like what I got with this battery.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] km8j:
Yea that's the type of battery I get when I don't have the wakelock issue
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
I had the wakelock once so far. Don't know what triggered it exactly, I went ahead and rebooted. I haven't rooted or unlocked it yet, so couldn't check what exactly or vaguely caused it
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bennksy:
For people with subpar battery life: has wiping/resetting the phone improve it? Does it actually work?

The battery life i am getting is 18h with 3h43m SOT. i am on wifi 80% of the time. auto brightness at 50%.

I don't have any games but have fb, instagram, twitter, snapchat, and 2 gmail accounts syncing.

This battery life seems pretty mediocre to me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
It's a pretty good start for me on [MENTION=398245]LeeDroid[/MENTION]'s ROM!! Just over 7 hours SOT on a mixture of Wi-Fi and data (4g where available) and I spent an hour on the phone today as well!

Mainly minimum brightness as in doors but up slightly when out. Used for XDA, Whatsapp and chrome with a bit of Deezer over Bluetooth.

Colour me very impressed!!!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Time saver edition or tl;dr: First full discharge on my 10 (1.30.401.1). ~15h / 5h SoT ~80% auto brightness indoor use, 80/20 WiFI/HSPA+, one wakelock (my mistake) ate ~9% of battery. Youtube, browser and some camera. No power saver.

Rambling:

First full discharge on my 10 (1.30.401.1), yesterday was spent setting it up and fiddling with it.

80% of the time on WiFi except for ~3 hours of 3G HSPA+ with varying levels of signal when we were at my niece's birthday party.

Pretty much indoors use, not full brightness but certainly nowhere near minimum. I've been on auto with the slider at about 70-80%.

Took a few photos, few minutes of video etcetera. Watched a bunch of Youtube videos and occasional web browsing.

If you look at the history chart, 99% of the time my 10 has slept like a baby if I have not been using it with the odd short little wake ups here and there.

Except for that one stretch of time awake which started after the camera was on!

This was because of Google Photos, I didn't remember to properly configure the settings so it was trying to upload few gigabytes worth of data, pictures and videos I took, on HSPA+ > under 2Mbps upload..

I don't pay for data, I've got unlimited everything but I prefer to let it do the uploading when it's charging e.g. at night..

Pixel peeping at the chart, it had been at it for a good 40 minutes or so and cost me about 9% of precious battery life.

I noticed it when I reached for my phone in my pocket at somepoint and it was slightly warmer than I was expecting.

No power saver either, it did go on automagically at 15% but I dislike it as it disables the haptic feedback..hence it shows as disabled.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
I'm satisfied with my battery, but I don't know why google services is the number one drainer. Google Now off and now on tap off AND location history off.

Why google why
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Low screen brightness all the time.

And about 1-2h Videos with MXplayer. Which strangely does now show up. Only Chrome.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DoctorB0NG:
You easily would've hit 10 hours had you turned off the mobile radio and just left WiFi on. Cell standby took more than your screen.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] racingmatt1:
Android os and cell standby is eating my battery up,but I have a m9. I hereby same result whether mobile data is on/off. Any help is appreciated.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DoctorB0NG:
Factory reset that bad boy.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] racingmatt1:
Is it really that bad? Also what causes this?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DoctorB0NG:
The poster didn't really provide enough info to determine if it is a big battery issue or not but my go to fix is always to factory reset if it's possible.

9 time out of 10 the reset will fix your issues assuming you don't restore from a backup that was made from the troubled ROM.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] osmosizzz:
Thought about getting this phone because of audio capabilities, but battery life seems like a hit or miss. With my s7 edge, most times I go 630 screen on time. Most I've done was 8 hours. Hmmm
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
It's early days yet for the 10 as well remember. But I have to say the phone can make some amazing battery life stats based on what I am seeing so far.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Yes, my 10 is still settling in but so far I'm liking the battery life. My second full discharge. 18½h/6h SoT.

Deep sleeps well.

I can only imagine my battery life improving once we get custom kernel's with user configurable temp throttle point and ability to downclock the Kryo cores a little bit. 2Ghz+ is just sooooo overkill it's not even funny.

And as I'm not a gamer, adjusting the max clockspeed of the Adreno 530 should help a little bit.

And in regards to that, seems like the GPU is sitting at 214Mhz idle in DevCheck all the time despite it's capable of going down to 133Mhz. Not sure why it's doing that.

Of course Power Saver achieves that Kryo core downclocking but I hate it that I can't just choose what it does. Grrr.

Instead it's just either all or none. As a result I don't use it.

It was nice with my M7 to just select CPU + screen brightness while leaving the haptic feedback and location stuff on which consumption is freaking peanuts in comparison.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
What are you doing to keep your Google Play services down? Mines always at the top even after factory reset with barely any signed in apps. Location settings?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
I haven't done anything special. Google Now stuff is turned off, location setting is battery saving and history turned off.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] th3:
Anyone tried to use it all at once... like in 10 hours? And see how much SOT you get. Just browsing, watching movies and the basics (nothing too stressful)

I've given mine back, waiting for another (laser focus faulty).

To be perfectly honest, 4-7hrs SOT is just not good enough. I've averaged 7.5hrs since 2014 on +14hrs total.

Sent from HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SLK55:
Was this on a QHD screen?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
If your sleeping 8hrs a day, and your on your phone 7hrs and work 8... What do you do with that extra hour of your day?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] AKfortyseven:
fap..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] th3:
That's kind of irrelevant.

But let's bite. Let's talk only about work days, best case scenario.

I work 4 days per week. I sleep at 12pm and wake at 6am. 3 hours is my two way driving alone, with nav or music. About 2-3 hours during work is screen usage in total, with the 1 hour lunch - I have net configs, details, emails, excel and notes access on the phone. I'll also be browsing stocks, properties and cars regularly. Add 2 hours more to the usage after work. That's just a busy day. How many hours left [emoji13]

So on the remaining 156 off days plus 33 holidays plus 8 bank holidays, you can forget about it. I might watch some vids or read net for hours in a single charge. Not every day but at least once a week.

Sent from HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ericsdeadinside:
Well, at least it's pretty and charges fast.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I can't seem to get beyond 3.5 hours of SOT. Any suggestions, while keeping the phone stock? 1.53 firmware.

I mostly text (Textra), but also check email (Gmail, 2 accounts), some twitter, facebook, instagram, groupme, photography. I have blinkfeed set up with News Republic, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Fitbit, only updating on WiFi. All syncing and backing up is set to WiFi only.I am on AT&T with decent (3 bars usually) signal most of the day, no WiFi available. Bluetooth is on, supposedly syncing with Fitbit. I'll have to double check, but I thought I had turned WiFi and Bluetooth scanning off.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Well it's a bit hard to recommend or suggest anything without seeing your actual battery statistics.

But at least you mentioned that your mobile signal is "3 bars usually", that might be your problem.

Is this is on 4G LTE or WCDMA / HSPA+ / 3G or whatever your carrier calls it.

If you're on 4G LTE, I'd suggest trying to switch to 3G.

Usually the signal bars are based on RSSI and even if you'd have full 5/5 4G LTE signal, it could still be crappy signal and consume more battery than needed. Hence I wouldn't really call 3/5 "decent".

Other people have also mentioned that the mobile radio (X12 LTE) inside our 10 would be "running in X9 mode and consuming more battery". And that it would be fixed soonTM.

I don't know where that comes from, I guess from some Qualcomm source but I don't really care as I don't have a LTE plan hence I only use 3G HSPA+.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
What would you like screen caps of? I can give stock and GSam. I can get BBS if needed.

I'll try the 3G switch. I wasn't sure if that was actually an issue, and if it is, I hope Qualcomm gets it sorted ASAP.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Sadly I'll be leaving for Tabihoudai shabu shabu soon. So I'll have to charge it now :(

No 8h SoT.

But yeah. VNC did a lot on saving Battery [emoji14]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zaydaboss:
hoping today was a fluke
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
What does your other screen show? Is Google play services at the top?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zaydaboss:
The phone is charging at this point. I didn't get a screenshot. I don't recall to be honest.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Is this what you want? 100% > 5% run down streaming video.

Display: Auto brightness at 100%

Mobile data: Enabled

WiFi: Connected (2.4Ghz 802.11n)

Volume: Roughly 50% using the "Theater mode"

Streaming 1080p videos from my PC with average bitrate between 18-20Mbps using Plex.

Of course remember this is not local playback.

The WiFi is "busy" streaming those videos so it's consuming battery as well.

I also took a few pictures while I was at it.

If you want, I could try local playback with the same videos I've been using?

I just have to juggle the videos around as I can't fit all of them on the phone at the same time :D

I'll probably put the phone in airplane mode though if I'm going to do a local video playback rundown of the battery.

Since I would want to see what the video playback efficiency is with the SD820 + the QHD display, airplane mode would remove the modem and WiFi radio out of the picture.

And I'll drop down the auto brightness a notch, maybe about 80% is a bit more realistic.

Well at least the stock history chart would be nice as it shows some useful information such as:

Mobile signal, how good or bad it has been

GPS, how often has it been turned on as it guzzles a fair bit of juice

Awake, has your phone been sleeping like a baby or has it been awake when your screen has been off
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] th3:
Cheers!

6.5hrs is very good with streaming and Auto brightness ? Better to use static, then you know what brightness level it is at.

I'd wager 50% is a good level for comparison.

Wi-Fi/data on and cell on is good, as it's a phone primarily and those functions you will want remaining on in general whilst doing anything.

I'll be watching vids on an M8 tomorrow, just to get a rough figure. The reason being, even though I've tested and used most flagships, my favorite device of all is the M8 and it's my daily runner. However, mine will be 1080p streams from the net, using data, at 90% brightness.

Sent from HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] MacShark:
Anyone have battery stats with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] LukLak19:
Battery

How did you all get >7 hours Sot ? After 4-4 1/2 hours Sot my device have 5% left. Im still on Stockrom, without root.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Wtf? Standby just sucks.

I mean.... common .... Flightmode! No WiFi or Bluetooth only 2 mins awake....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tekogremista:
I have the T-Mobile variant. Had 3:48 SOT yesterday. Sucks!!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ro_explorer:
I'm using my quick-charge capabilities once a day in order to keep this baby alive. I also slowly charge it over night with a regular charger. I don't care much about stand-by and battery autonomy. I'm just using the bad boy with auto brightness (slider almost to the max), not sacrificing anything for a smooth experience. After all, why else should we have QC3.0 if not to be able to quickly charge it whenever necessary?

Just for the sake of numbers, I get about 4h of SOT if I do not charge it meanwhile.

-= Sent from a parallel universe through a wormhole =-
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Schedonnardus:
here's my battery usage. forgot to take a screenshot of google services, but it was around 24% i think. This is on a rooted verizon variant. there's a gap in the graph b/c it froze at around 13% battery and i had to force restart it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zaydaboss:
Looks like I'm rooting cause day 2 and its pretty much the same. I'll be lucky getting 3 hours screen time . what's odd is first discharge for close to 5 hours SOT. Maybe its my apps *shrugs*
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bigpeet666:
I'm getting through a 17 hour day with easily 55+% left.....3 to 4 hours screen on. My M9 battery life did get better with software updates so good chance the 10 will too