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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
I think if we've learned one thing in the last few weeks, both from this thread and others [ie the thread in which a user said att gave him the update...], its that the tech support people at att don't have any idea what's really going on.

Everything they say is speculation. I seriously doubt they know anything. If they did know something, someone would have leaked something.

I worked in a software company, and release dates were kept secret from most in the company. Very few people had the exact information, and it was because release dates were related to software passing quality control. It's very hard to predict when all bugs will be fixed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] norbarb:
At&t release just MM update to one Samsung phone model and this is Galaxy S6 and variants of S6. Nothing was release to Note 5 yet so I doubt you will see MM in near future. I will say another 2-3 weeks after Note 5 see update. First they have to update S5 then Note 4. So in summary. Note 5 get MM then 1-1.5 weeks later S5 then 1-1.5 weeks after S5 Note 4...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] giga8547:
Yeah he wont even give me a time frame because tey havnt given him a time frame for release yet all he can say for sure is that the note 5 and the s5 have to be updated first and that those 2 devices are out of the dev que but no official release date set up yet. Generally speaking it takes about 2-3 weeks once a update exits the dev que to actually go live after it is tested in a limited number of devices. So what they do is push the uodate to say 200 phones if there is no issue they push it to another few thousand and finally if no problem the entire spectrum gets the update. Case and point would be this last security update. There is a thread on forum where guy claims att rep pushed update to phone. That person received the latest security patch before the majority of owners.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Geekologie313:
Perhaps we'll get it at the same time as Telus in Canada? The note 4 update for them is scheduled for May 23. I notice that our at&t updates are pretty close to theirs usually.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
My gut says that there's likely no connection between att and Telus release dates. At&t has its own apps, telus has its own apps...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Geekologie313:
Rogers, which is basically a subsidiary of at&t has their note 4 update listed for May 25th. So hopefully sooner rather than later.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] cxyjordan:
My wife's S6 just got the MM update today from AT&T which is half generation newer. Maybe Note 4 is next.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Everything they say is on a computer monitor. They basically jist search your problem using a company search engine and give you whatever answer pops up. If nothing comes up, they'll either make something up (which they aren't supposed to do), tell you they can't help you, or pass you on to someone else (higher tier or another company).

That's why if you ever call asking for them to unlock your bootloader (which someone on this forum did a long time ago for some reason), they'll tell you how to unlock your SIM. They would've just searched "unlock boot loader" and the word "unlock" would've been a search result linking to "how to unlock phone for use on other carriers." They would just read that topic thinking it's the correct answer.

Simply put, don't call any customer service hotline and ask them technical questions, which includes when an OS update is coming. The people won't know how to answer and will give you BS in order to get you to hang up feeling like you've been helped.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] giga8547:
Amen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
I can confirm this is exactly how it works when dealing with ATT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] namsir:
My next phone is going to be international. Period. I am done with ATT bs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] COA4178:
I'd wish to say the same thing, bad thing is, the phone is very very expensive to buy in full (international) version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ( ):
Does anyone of you have the marshmallow update or still none?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nukesnooper:
Oh!, But wait! I'm that guy. They pushed "something" to my phone last Friday evening, but I remained at 5.1.1, 14. I received a FOTA Tuesday night that bumped me to 5.1.1, 15.

Sadly; it's not just AT&T. When I switched ISP's several years ago; I was promised that the price was NOT promotional, and that my rate was locked in indefinitely. I nailed the rep to the 3rd degree to verify beyond a doubt that was an absolute fact. Sure enough; after a year, my monthly rate went up $20.00 a month. When I called to complain, they denied it. When I played the recording of the conversation back to their corporate rep; I was told that "Billy" had told me incorrectly, and that he was no longer with the company. "Nothing we can do about that." I begged to differ. I filed a fraudulent business practice claim with the FCC. Suddenly; my posterior was covered with lipstick offering to "settle" with me. Obviously; I didn't wind up with 75MB's of Internet service a month for life; but I was compensated - below what I wanted, but what I thought was fair for both of us. Sometimes the dragon wins. Incidentally; the FTC, State Attorney General's Office and others are nothing but paper tigers. The FCC actually took them to task.

Call me paranoid, but Total Recall is your friend! It's vindicated me more than once. It's saved my ass more than once. And; it's served AT&T, et, al. crow WAY more than once. My favorite line when a rep starts a conversation by saying: "Just so you'll know; this conversation may be recorded for quality and training purposes."? Me: "Oh really? Well; I can assure you that there is no MAY in whether or not I'm recording this conversation." What's amazing is the number of fertilizer salesmen that, either doubt you, or are oblivious as to what you've just said and ply on the BS, hot and heavy, even so. Then deny it when you confront them. Oh; what a joy it is to quote exact dates, times, lengths of conversations, and content - verbatim. And when the debate reaches someone with an IQ near 70; I play the conversation back. True bliss.

I could go on and on - wait - I already did. Guess I'll just take it on the chin and wait for AT&T to dish out the update. They can promise and schmooze - why; I don't know - but they can't give you what they don't have. Why don't they have it? A question for the ages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Rogers wireless bought back the 34% stock that ATT owned in the company, in 2004. Att has had a few partnerships with Rogers wireless since then, such as to provide LTE, but I wouldn't count on similar release dates between companies that haven't been formally under the same umbrella, for 12 years.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Nope, no update yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jakeuten:
Moved to the Onyx S7 32 gb. Sick of waiting and needed an excuse to upgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
I feel you man. Im waiting to see what the Note6 brings. If nothing to good I'll probably just look for a T-Mobile Note4 and sell my ATT variant and throw the S7 Edge Rom on it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jmelendez1:
Don't blame you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] wadalrasheed:
hhhh ,, good decision & no blame :good:

lust hope you not suffering updating issues a few months later :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jmelendez1:
[emoji38]

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Got a T-Mobile note 4 on eBay for $365 new. Flash my own Roms from now on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Odischeese:
I would have just bought G4 from T-Mobile (Ebay Unlocked) for 150-160

It's better and has almost everything the Note 4 has
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Does the t mobile version have any issues getting lte service on att?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jmelendez1:
Just preferred the battery life and screen size. But yes that's a great deal.

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Works fine from what I read. I should have it by Friday
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
1 year later: The date is November 26th, 2017. Android has Evolved; Now on version 8.O. leaving the Note 4 in the dust as att still hasn't released the Android 6 Marshmallow Update for the Device and no root has been found to this date....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jakeuten:
S7 has treated me well. Maybe it's time for an upgrade? [emoji1]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jmelendez1:
My tmobile Note 4 arrived early! Got it rooted and running S7 edge rom with Note 5 features. Seems to be fine so far. Lte and WiFi work, just no fingerprint at the moment. Love that I didn't have to upgrade and lose my IR blaster and removable battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
lol by November '17 yes I'll have a new phone ESP, if root doesn't hit. I'm waiting on the Note 6 to see what its offering as I love having the spen but more importantly the removable battery's (although I know that's dead with Samsung moving forwards) which is a shame. To me they've taken steps backwards in terms of functionality over form. My note 4 has my SPen, the physical keys we've all gotten used to, 4 interchangeable battery's, and the IR blaster which I use more than probably most, and (thank God they brought it back) the Sd card slot where my 200gb card sits.. so far my phone still runs absolutely great so I'm not in a hurry to move away from everything that I love about this phone. its not in perfect physical condtion, theres a coulple scratches under my screen protector that are deep enough to see, from before the phone had one on it which annoys me and the metal frame has taken some damage from a drop or two. But the phone works fantastically. As more updates hit they will cripple this phone as it's planned obsolescence to do so. And eventually I'll move on. But no other phone Has everything I'm looking for as I've gotten spoiled with this phone and it's made it hard to be e,cited for anything new because to me with they're all let Downs. I do wish I had bought the T-Mobile version or international and could flash the S7Edge/Note5 Rom. Hopefully Samsung will come back to the decisions of this glorious device but that's a long shot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] allargon:
You pay the same price on AT&T Next that you do buying in full. With AT&T Next, you get a SIM and bootloader locked phone that you pay off over 2.5 years with a no interest loan. With International you get an unlocked (SIM and bootloader) that you pay in full.

If you keep your phone for 2 years, it's probably better to stick with Next. If you replace your phone every year, it's probably better to go full price International and sell the (already unlocked) phone yourself on E-bay, Craigslist, etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] COA4178:
Makes sense though at the moment I'm like the others in here, waiting to see what new root able and unlock able phone is introduced.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bigboy11:
I am npt ready to dump the note 4 . I wish the reps for AT&T would just say they have no idea when mm will be sent to our phones. This stuff giving out false information regarding dates just suck. I just keep checking the updates hopefully it will arrive soon.

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I am sick and tired having at&t reps throwing release dates for mm. i have 3 reps give out dates for mm all incorrect. Thinking of buying a different phone not samsung i will tell ya that ! Just started to look not in a big rush .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gamer_Josh:
I was here looking for information regarding the Note 4 Marshmallow update for my wife's phone, but also noticed that you're thinking of getting a non-Samsung phone. I had a Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S4 before, which were both great, but after seeing that AT&T (our current carrier) started locking the bootloader on all their Samsung phones, I thought that maybe I should look elsewhere after dropping and cracking the screen on my Galaxy S4 (Doh!).

I did some research and was drawn to the Nexus line, because I now wanted something with pure Android, faster updates (Nexus phones get updates before any others, of course), no ties to the carrier, no restrictions with unlocking the bootloader and rooting, and lower cost. I became interested in the Nexus 6P and it was close to release at the time, so that's what I went with. No regrets! It's been a great phone for me. I just thought I'd share this information, from a former Galaxy phone user.

But, my wife doesn't care about rooting and all that jazz, so she's good with her locked Note 4. I'm just ready for her to get Marshmallow. I mean, Nexus phones have had it since September last year! Her phone wasn't even a year old at the time, but still currently no Marshmallow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ndmoh1:
I am no longer a big fan of At&t or Samsung for that matter. I remember paying big bucKs for the note 4 and to see how customers are being left in the dark....not cool. I am just gonna ditch this phone, make my way to the grocery store to grab a bag of marshmallow. ..voila! Problem solved.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rkmoran:
Just checked, nope... Effers!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Demonshorts:
Just checked mine.. says "For more information see Axon 7"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] adambomb_13:
Finally Google is pissed in a big way that wireless carrier are taking to long to update their Android operating system and it looks to me like they are preparing to deal with it. The smart move would be to use AT&T to make an example to the rest.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-05-26/google-gets-serious-about-remedying-android-problem
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Not really sure what all they can do to deal with the issue...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] datoneazn:
Bell pushed out Marshmallow yesterday, so we might be seeing it soon for ATT?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Geekologie313:
Rogers isn't releasing theirs until may 31st. At&t has usually done theirs( at least the last two updates) on the same timeframe as Rogers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Well, Rogers already released the s5 marshmallow update, and att has not...

Also, Att has already released the s6 marshmallow, and according to what I see, Rogers will deploy that later this summer.

Att released the m8 and m9 updates on htc, but Rogers doesn't even have this on their radar yet.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Two different companies

Two completely different software update schedules.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] norbarb:
Why makes you think this? AT&T did not push Marshmallow to Notes 5 yet. Bell it is Bell not AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] datoneazn:
Didn't we get Lolipop shortly after Bell pushed it out as well?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Bell hasn't had a relationship with ATT since ATT sold its ownership in Bell since 1975, even longer ago than Rogers....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] quanqngbk:
I see another version of Note4 got MM update , for example : N910C,910F,910G,910P.... So long to wait the update from AT&T :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] FLASHnox:
Moving on from this phone if marshmallow doesn't land by June 3rd. Might finally try out apple. Currently thinking about the 5s for the screen size and the pricing or a used 6s.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] giga8547:
I got a call from my buddy today and he said as of this morning the note 4 6.0 update was out of the dev department and will roll out to a select demo group within the week for testing if all goes well it will move out in stages to regualr customers.

There is no set time frame for regular customers it could be weeks or months.

There is a few att crapware things that will be added and a few things that will be removed like messenger and att live will be removed. There will also be some things that are added as preload like yellow pages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
How do I become one of the select few... ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Demonshorts:
Oh the blasphemy!! " The power of android compells you!" "Lord, cast out those evil apple demons!"

"Forgive him, he is desperate and knows not what he says!"... (I feel his pain.. lol)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] boofman:
This is good news, but to be honest, I'd love to be stuck at Lollipop as long as we have root, custom recovery, custom kernel, and custom ROM..

Does your buddy work at ATT? Maybe you can ask about the locked BL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] giga8547:
He does work for att he is one of there inside development testers he also debugs parts of the firmware on samsung and htc products. I have aslked him about the BL but he him self has no access to any way to open it or has any information on how to open it. Because the device is contracted with the us gov and has to maintain a secure device to keep the contract the BL source and keys are held by another department and are NEVER released to anyone without security clearance.

If a situation in debug comes up with problems with the BL it has to be handed over to the other group. Its that simple.

Also he stated a while back when all this stuff on the BL started that all android devices including the nexus the htc devicea samsun motorola etc will end up with locked bootloaders. Google is aginst the nexus being locked. And from the way i understand it if they protest it being locked att will drop their devices from their support and sales.

I have asked my buddy to join the group he just says he is not allowed to participate but reads all the time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rkmoran:
Another disappointing updateless day brought to you by the letters A, T & T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] boofman:
I see..thanks for the information.

From the looks of it, our 910A will never be unlocked, and we now need a miracle for the BL unlock.

I might as well sell this device to somebody who doesn't need or care about root. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] giga8547:
Yeah i been looking at selling mine and buying a tmobile note 4 but this phone is still under contract untill 2017 and i cant get enough out of it to buy out my contract or buy a tmobile note 4 so im stuck doing most of my root activities that i need to do on developing some apps and games on my aging tablet and android sdk as well as android emulators.

Way to screw the pooch f**k tards at at&t.

Some of the stuff i do requires modding the apps files that are stored in the apps data directory in the phone storage and soetimes i have to reference system files that because there is no root are hidden and cant get accessed to view them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] boofman:
We can't really blame ATT since it's a government contract we are talking about, since security may be an issue..

Best way to do this is buy a phone from Manufacturers' or retail stores..Network providers are always into profits, and they might get themselves into government contracts or the military for that matter so even TMo might not be safe from future security locks..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Hammerfest:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-note-4-update/

ugh, if previous posts are legit, not even proper USER testing is done for AT&T...

Verizon was always the LAST carrier to push updates, at the rate its going now, its going to be AT&T this round...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] aamszia:
odin package for MM update ????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Shanghai.Knight:
Has to be released first. You'll see odin package a week or two after....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Demodave:
Marshmallow: Unveiled by Google in May 2015 and officially released by Google in October 2015. 8 months after the official release.........we are still waiting. Truly ridiculous. I would get it if I bought a cheap Android phone. But I spent around $800 for a flagship device. To make matters worse, I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 and it still sits on Kit Kat. Samsung dropped all support, including security updates, about 6 months after release of this supposedly higher-end tablet.

I AM DONE WITH SAMSUNG.

I like the idea of the Nexus phones, but carrier specific features like HD voice are disabled on the Nexus devices when used on AT&T.

After carrying Android phones for the last 7 or 8 years, rt's time to finally follow my entire family and most of my friends towards the iPhone. They all love their iDevices and get updates when Apple releases them. And no carrier bloatware! Hello iPhone 7. Go ahead and impress me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] maluk:
MM for Verizon Note 4 was just released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Odischeese:
So what? We're next? Root's already out for those mfs and yet we still don't have ours :c
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] keithfrombm:
Buddy of mine got 6.0.1 today on Verizon, but he's got a LOT of bugs. Noticeably slower (I've read plenty of reports that say that's temporary on Marshmallow though); contacts photo missing on call screen: no blank avatar, no nothing, but clearly visible in contacts and the pop-up; and the screen-off memo was actually going back to his home screen (turning screen on) for a split second before going black. He's going to factory reset to see if that fixes it. If not, then either he got a bad download or Verizon rushed this update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] boofman:
I don't care much about Carrier Updates..what I need is Root, even if it means I'm gonna be stuck on Lollipop..
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlbertPastri:
So hello everybody, i've been scratching me head at this for a while now.

I have a sony xperia z whose micro-usb to usb port is broken and therefore my pc cannot recognize it.

Now, I am not sure if you've seen the phone but it comes with a secondary charger port kind of thing where it can charge through a dock, and thats what im using.

So i decided to root the phone using kingroot. I was following a guide that showed how to root any xperia device using kingroot and then replacing kingroot with superuser: http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z1/general/root-xperia-running-lollipop-lb-ubl-t3123893

While updating the binaries it said installation failed and i tried looking at other guides. I stumbled upon this thread: https://androidmtk.com/replace-kinguser-with-supersu and followed it even after seeing the disclaimer thinking it would be alright. My dumbass thought everything would be fine and it was until it asked to reboot....

now i'm in a bootloop, with no way to connect it to my comp, and recovery mode not working for some reason (unless im doing it wrong, i dont know).

I believe the loop is a soft-brick (is that the term?) and it turns on shows the sony logo then says "powered by android" goes into the loading screen the stops, shuts off and repeats. I am on lollipop and desperately need help. I have a few school assignments due but can't get my mind off this lol.

ty for helping :D
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaronkatrini:
Can you boot into recovery? Do you even have a recovery installed?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xzborneo87:
Flash new firmware use flashtool.. Now xperia z have MM rom..oh yeah
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hrishix6:
press and hold power and volume down for 10-12 secs till the phone vibrate 3 times.It will be switched off now.Flash a kernel with recovery included only if you have unlocked bootloader else use flashtool to flash stock firmware.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cocelli:
Hello, so far nexus 6p users have had a good year as we have been updated with many new roms including different features and stability. I would like to know how people are finding their current rom and why? I have heard many good things with roms such as dirty unicorn and as a kernel elemental x as well as franco kernel. So what's your preference? Just curious. Also, I would like to know what kinda tweaks and features that are useful so people are aware of this before they flash, feel free explaining your opinions, thanks.