yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fblasot:
OT:

Not only, also the "base" sync has a lot of changed files...

But in normal use I didn't see differences between rev2 and rev4...I was hoping in a better way in calculating route...same error, sometimes it chooses secondary road in the quickest way...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sonic227@yahoo.com:
Has anyone else had issues where on the navigation screen a symbol with "gps" is crossed out and navigation isn't following you correctly? Then later it works and is following you fine but gps crossed out is still there? Not sure what is causing this
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SchimiEX:
Looks like your GPS don´t work... maybe this would help you

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/index.php?threads/navigation-doesnt-work-help.327435/
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brutane:
Finally had a chance to try this out. Nav input is enabled while in motion but the Sirus link stuff disappears.

Not subscribed to Sirius, but the traffic features and other stuff don't really work in canada anyway. I think the only thing that worked was the weather. (Sirius was free last week)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DanMc85:
GPSM could possibly need a firmware update with Ford IDS.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BReflex:
Hi everyone and thank you for sharing

I know i'm late to download the certificates due to error 403.

I just want to ask if u call the url directly from someone who has access to etis system like a regional dealer if it will work

Thank you in advance

_______________________

Ford Focus 2015 MyFord Touch
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sheltonfilms:
Did you notice that the compass disappears on the instrument cluster when no route is set?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brutane:
You mean when in quadrant view? My compass is still there when no destination is set. It shows the current street name under it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sheltonfilms:
No on the instrument cluster. In the section that used to be compass now name navigation.

Should show the compass ball when no route is active, I think it also shows the name of the street your are driving on as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
these guys say they can for 5000rub (77$): http://www.chipford.ru/aktivaciya-navigacii-ford-sync.html
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ten3or:
they are a lot of what they say.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frics:
ten3or are you talking about a lot of them do not do it the first year
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedy350z:
I did nav a bit ago and tried to get sirius to turn on traffic and travel link features and they said its not equiped. I assume they still see my radio has no nav. I tried to tell them I had it installed after the fact and to try and turn it on and they wouldnt. Tried to order it online and didnt come up as available either just radio.

Sounds like its features you cant get going this route but Nav is cool.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brutane:
Oh, before I changed the bits to allow input in motion my cluster still showed Compass in the Instrument Cluster, it would change to Directions if I set a route.

and after I changed the bits the cluster remains unchanged, still shows Compass and changes to Directions when I set a route.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
My car didn't come with nav. I added it through the methods in this thread.

For the two weeks while Sirius was free, I had traffic and travel link.

Not sure what that means, but it's stupid if they can't add it to the account.

Also not sure if it matters, but I did have the ACM bit changed during that time.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedy350z:
My Sirius is still free for radio but still no traffic and travel according to them. Not following you on the ACM bit change? is there a post you are referring too? I am searching a few different threads but cannot locate it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
There was a bit in the ACM that seemed like maybe it was tied to Nav. I don't think we every confirmed what it might be for (if anything), so I wouldn't worry about it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fordson04:
It was like pulling teeth but I was able to call Sirius and was transferred twice but they ended up getting it added to my account I had to explain over over and over that the car did in fact have the features. They had to send it to COM specialist and they overrode it on their end
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedy350z:
ok thought about trying again and see if it was just the lady I spoke with not being helpful.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
Does the Nav Link cost extra? If it does, I would assume Sirius will do whatever they can to enable it for you so they can add it to your bill.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedy350z:
yes it does and you would think so because I already told them no for the music once trial ends its the only way they will get my money.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fordson04:
Yea that's what I kept telling them. I was trying to pay for the service so I just needed it turned on. I just kept on it and they didn't it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brutane:
Video in motion

Not sure if anyone tested it, but the bits that allow Nav input while in motion do not affect the Video In Motion part.

Still says that video will resume when the transmission is in Park.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DanMc85:
Correct. It appears that checks gears. A fix for this may also kill the backup camera. So not sure if it will be resolved. Who knows.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ml759:
does it work? anyone tried? or it's a fake?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SchimiEX:
Is there a possibility to update the nav software (not maps with the SD-Card)?

I use the "EA5T-14F657-AD" on my mft but there is a update to "EA5T-14F657-AE".

I tried to modify my autoinstall.lst to (i used the autoinstall file from the "sync version test"):

;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!
; Microsoft Windows Automotive !
; USB Installation Directive File !
; 3.7 (14122) Update from: !
; 10308,10337,11038,11063,11081,11134 !
; 12023,12156,12285,13171,13319 !
; Other versions not supported !
; autoinstall.lst (NA) !
; !
;+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!

;;;
;;; The following tags are software versions supported by this update
;;;
[SYNCGen2_4.22.10308]
[SYNCGen2_4.22.10337]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11038]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11063]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11081]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11134]
[SYNCGen2_4.26.12023]
[SYNCGen2_4.28.12156]
[SYNCGen2_4.29.12285]
Item1 = BT4T-14D546-EE
Open1 = SyncMyRide\BT4T-14D546-EE.cab
Item2 = EA5T-14F657-AE
Open2 = SyncMyRide\EA5T-14F657-AE.zip
Options = AutoInstall

[SYNCGen2_3.08.15128]
[SYNCGen2_4.30.13171]
[SYNCGen2_4.31.13319]
Item1 = BT4T-14D546-EE
Open1 = SyncMyRide\BT4T-14D546-EE.cab
Item2 = EA5T-14F657-AE
Open2 = SyncMyRide\EA5T-14F657-AE.zip
Options = AutoInstall

;;;
;;; The following are the Target image files
;;;
[SYNCGen2_4.32.14122]
Item1 = EA5T-14F657-AE
Open1 = SyncMyRide\EA5T-14F657-AE.zip
Options = AutoInstall

;;;
;;; The following tags are software versions NOT supported by this update
;;;
[SYNCGen2_4.21.10212]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11069]
[SYNCGen2_4.23.11015]
[SYNCGen2_4.27.12047]
[SYNCGen2_4.27.12058]
[SYNCGen2_5]
Item1 = BT4T-14D546-EE
Open1 = SyncMyRide\BT4T-14D546-EE.cab
Item2 = EA5T-14F657-AE
Open2 = SyncMyRide\EA5T-14F657-AE.zip
Options = AutoInstall

but after a few min of "installing" i get a error that say not enough space.....

maybe someone had a hint or a working solution :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brutane:
Not speaking from experience here, but you could try to only include the AutoInstall portion that matches your current Sync version and build.

Mine was 3.08.15128

Maybe only include the section that matches your info, and if you still get the 'not enough space' message, then try installing each cab separately. If you already have the license installed then maybe you don't need to install a new one? This seems like a good opportunity to see how the system reacts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
You cannot update navigation app because it's in use. Safe mode must be entered before applying it. See attachment. Still, I doubt it will solve your positioning issue. Don't try installing other files without asking first, you might brick your APIM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fblasot:
The AE nav app is in the Rev4.zip sync update, but together with it there is also the file

EA5T-14D546-AYD.zip (Master Patch for v 3.8) that is updated from Rev2...

I'm not sure that AE needs also AYD to working correctly...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
yes, you are correct, if navigation was not enabled when method was working (which already contained AYD file), EA5T-14D546-AYD.zip can be added in safe mode install
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SchimiEX:
HI,

i had successful enabled the nav (AD) past week and it works fine... the one problem is the wrong voice that told me the wrong meters and kilometers (the right turn is in 800m but the voice says in 20meters400meters turn right (she says it how i wrote it :))..

so i hope that maybe the update to ae maybe fix this issue...

[MENTION=4160469]rioachim[/MENTION] i check it tomorrow and tell you if it works :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ten3or:
Somebody tried to edit the POIs on the navigation maps? It uses the format *.tmdb, I could not open it for editing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
yep, it's fake. I have contacted them and for 2 different cars they sent me the same BT4T-14F500-BE.CAB files, just with a different APIM number inside. The installation will most likely fail because of the wrong certificate
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
Ok, here are the activation files I managed to generate while the system was available. The first 3 and the last 4 are different. Maybe it will help if anyone still looks into the certificate signing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NYG2009:
When you generated these was the URL the same each time, or did you adjust ESN or other value? I haven't looked at all of them but it just looks like carriage return/Line feed differences so I'm assuming the data was the same.

EDIT: Strange. I see no difference in your 1 - 3 files compared to an activation file I downloaded to look at from a Chinese site. These are the files that contain the line feeds and are 1 character larger than the files containing the carriage returns. I just started looking into this the past couple of days but was under the impression these files would be unique. Maybe I overlooked something and need to read more.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Z7What:
For anyone that has activated navigation successfully and shortly after doing do noticed that the map isn't holding your course correct I may have a fit for you. I have a 2013 F-150 with NAV MFT from the factory. With 1200miles on the truck I lifted it and put larger tires 1" taller to be exact. On the drive home from getting the tires mounted my NAV started to not track me correctly, showed me turning pay before or after the street I was, wasn't showing me on the road at all some points. Bought the truck to Ford 3 times for them to troubleshoot it and they answer was simply put the stock size tires back on. This was not a option for me and many others that buy trucks and install larger tires. A few weeks later I bought a intake system for it. The directions said to remove the neg terminal on the battery when installing, I did so. Once installed and battery connected again my NAV has been spot on. Its been 47K miles since and its still going strong. On the F150 forums a lot of guys were having the same issue and disconnection the battery for about an hour has fixed 100% of the trucks with this issue.

With more research I was able to find out that Ford has a system called DeadReckoning, basically is a system that uses wheel speed to more precisely pin point your location, its also used to keep track of you whenever GPS signal is lost for some reason. For some reason it seamed as if a lot of trucks were defaulting to the Deadreckoning system and not the GPS signal and disconnecting the battery caused the truck to now use the GPS signal as default and Deadreckoning as secondary. Not sure if you guys that have this issue have larger than stock tires installed or not but if so try it I bet it works!

Wayne
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SchimiEX:
HI,,

the update works perfect.. but (like you said it) it don´t solve my "speak" issue...

The nav Version rises up from v4.X....... to v5.x.......
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] flsdiver:
These have different ESNs. No big deal there.

For some reason they rebuilt the CAB. Very minor byte changes in there, but i don't see anything changed in the actual license files (CAB content looks to be the same).

Looks like most changes are a new signature as a result, and a new certificate with new date. Nothing to be gained with differences I see in these files. Same problem, harder to crack the actual signature than it is to jailbreak sync itself I think.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SchimiEX:
HI,

one question...

EA5T-14D546-AUA is the safemode

and what is EA5T-14D546-AVA for? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
exiting safe mode, of course
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
Got an idea: EA5T-14D546-AYD.zip contains swf interface files outside the signed .cab. What would happen if, let's say, Climate.swf would be modified or even invalid. Then install through safe mode. Afterwards would the interface error and go the windows desktop or not? Get to windows, mess around, then flash back the correct AYD and all is perfect, sounds too good to be true.

But I cannot try it, I already bricked once my APIM on a different occasion.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JGTX:
would the 2 files in this thread work for nav activation?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Z7What:
Has anyone ever dove into the A/C modules to see what it all controls?

The reason I'm asking is I own a 2013 F-150. It's known that a lot of 09-14 F-150s have poor cooling A/C systems. I see 48-52* vent temps. Where other vehicles I have owned/driven have vent temps at 34-38*. The truck has been to Ford 3 times for this reason. The expansion valve has been replaced and the system was recovered and recharged to verify the correct amount of freon. Ultimately Ford said my temps are normal, which is BS. On another forum I am on there has been some guys using IDS, take control of the compressor and keep it engauged for longer this resulted in get vent temps in the 20*s. Having temps this low would freeze the evaporator but it proves that the system has the ability to cool much better but the computer system running the A/C system isn't allowing it to do so. A fix we have done is to install a resistor inline with the evaporator temp sensors. This resistor changes the ohms the evap temp sensors sees and basically tricks the computer into thinking the evaporator is warmer than it actually is and this keeps the compressor engauged longer. This results in vent temps around 42-45*.

I'm curious if it's possible to change something in the ABD or elsewhere in order to achieve the same, if not better results but without the resistor installed.

Wayne
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MrDoom:
So just to confirm, we're not able to get a valid license file from anywhere else right? I have a 2013 C Max that I'm trying to activate.*

I got ForScan to change the byte in the as built data but I still see the same information screen. No navigation. Looks like I need the license file but missed the boat on the wide open link. Tomorrow I have to stop by a Ford dealership and might ask them about it.

Edit: Asked the dealership to flash my APIM with the IDS + OASIS installation with a different VIN. They said they'd call their hotline and ask them about it. I'm preeeeeetty sure it's just going to be "lol no".
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chris_zx2:
Did they give you an answer?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MrDoom:
Yes. It was "Lol no."
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
That's kind of to be expected when you're asking a company to help you steal from them. I mean, there's really only one reason to BS the VIN on the APIM.

Become good friends with a Ford tech, or bribe one, and then maybe.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MrDoom:
It was one of those "For giggles look into this plz" type thing. I wasn't really expecting much. Considering my vehicle is used, I'm not really stealing if something is straight up not offered at all. Is it stealing from Ford to throw a nav-enabled APIM into my unit?

Anyway, I guess we're still looking for a way to forge or acquire the license file.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
The cost of the nav license was included in the purchase of the vehicle if Nav was enabled. Replacing the APIM isn't stealing from Ford because the original owner paid for the license.

I'm not really one to talk. But yes, technically it probably is theft.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MrDoom:
Then Ford should have made it available as an aftermarket upgrade, considering we've just been messing in software and managed to get it working. Alas.

So are there any other leads on ways to get out outside of purchasing 3k worth of Ford licensing?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nexgen10:
This will be the last ford vehicle I ever buy. It'll be a funny day when the Ford execs are sitting at a table, discussing how Tesla is completely destroying their business.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
That might happen in a few decades...

But complaining about Ford because you can't add in an expensive factory option for free seems silly. It would be like me complaining because my car didn't come with a sun-roof and I can't add one for free. For $1000+ I can have it added. But when I bought the car, I decided to not spend extra money on the sunroof. And I got exactly what I paid for.

And the Tesla comparison.... Last time I checked, the "tech package" option for a Tesla was a $3700 factory add-on. You may be able to add it on later -- but not for free.

I try to save the "last XX vehicle I ever buy" conversation for the moment when I'm replacing a transmission or engine for the second time (thanks GM).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
This time it works, they sent me a valid signed license file (navigation app not included in install package)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pomyslowy_dobromir:
Have you installed it already? Does TMC work?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superx10:
I'm curious if the license file just depends on the serial number or serial+VIN ? Do you think there's a chance we can build one?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ulao2:
serial number only
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
You already had a license, right?

If so, have you compared the new license file to your previous one? Just curious if there's any difference.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rioachim:
There's always a difference, the signed certificate part is never the same because that's how the encryption works (even for the same apim esn)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
Two licenses for the same APIM with the same serial number *should* be the same file, shouldn't they?

I probably didn't phrase my question right. I thought you already had an APIM with a license, and purchased a second license (for the same APIM) from the Russians to see what they would give you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ulao2:
Right, the zip file is laced with driver signing encryption. So each serial number matches only one lic file.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maksikaz:
APIM Programming

I`v got installed license for navi, F5 maps but ...

After reading APIM conf:

7D0-01-02 001C 0806 C0C4

(should be 7D0-01-02 0009 0604 806D as stated above) so i don`t know what to change :crying:

Has anyone seen this configuration ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
(7d0-01-02. Byte 1 = 00 No Nav. Byte 1 = 04 with Nav)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maksikaz:
Clear, done and it works THX
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MrDoom:
Out of curiosity, where did you get the license file from? Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
I was wondering the same thing. Did you get the license file before the ford site got locked down, or through some other means?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ulao2:
may be this will help?

0009 0604 80 =

00 none bytes on.

09 Mic 2 present and usb present (leave these).

06 miles/yards units and ambient lights (leave both alone)

04 seat position for Bladders( I'd say leave it)

80 ( leave this, its wiring info)

the above is what is on, not going to list what is off because its a lot of work ;) though the bytes in question are 5,6,7,8,9,10. I do not have an easy way to pates in the byte/bit break down. Happy to analyze any individual byte for you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] glitchbit:
I just heard back from someone who I believe released the original etis links that we are now using, and he was the only one who had an alternative link posted as well in a german forum. From what he indicates he believes that ford is simply re-routing traffic through akami and screwed up the etis links due to how they are re-routing. He expects those links return and work again in a week or 2. Ford does not have a good track record for keeping their servers running right from my experience. Even on normal customer facing stuff like their Ford Sync service it literally took me 2 days to sign up for it because their server was down. I also quickly cancelled it once I realized how un-useful it is.

What I wish someone would have done though is grab the original IP address of the etis server so that we might be able to compare and see if we can't use the old IP or add the hostname and IP to our local hosts file.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maksikaz:
http://chipford.ru
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] namemeetsadminstandards:
136.1.62.50/rest/givis/getInstallPackage

I don't think so.

Especially since etis.dealerconnection.com is still not using akamai (routes to www .etis.gss2.azell.com instead).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ulao2:
I don't think that is correct. The old URL still works, it just rejects the anonymous authentication.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ulao2:
This is not a joke, nor is it a PhotoShop job, this actually occurred from the flash drive method (from the Russian guy) for a car. Really m$?

update: Looks like others have seen this. Suggested fix is to update, but once the unit is at 3.8, I'm not sure how you can re-update?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] COMpulse:
Tell us more about how you did this.

We want to explore this system more but need an entry point.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MarcinXDA:
I saw windows error after:

1. open navigation screen

2. pull off sd card

3. windows informed about error and sync2 rebooted within few seconds
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] namemeetsadminstandards:
So, basically you've pulled the SD card while it was being accessed. Why the **** do you think any Russians would be to blame for that error? :D :D