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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hey isaali,

The device is definitely not as hot as the m7 or m9. I've had both. In addition, you'd be surprised at how the battery lasts all day even with heavy use. I can attest that the initial battery drop is fast, but then I always find myself with sufficient battery to last me all of the day till night before I sleep at 11pm.

The Quick charge is probably the best feature coz you never need to worry about using your battery faster than you could charge.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] VeryCoolAlan:
[VIDEO] Quick and Dirty Unboxing of the HTC 10!

[YOUTUBE]WWJh1BT9NHY[/YOUTUBE]

Opening the best phone of 2016!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bluegrass55:
Audio

Just received my 10 here in the UK.

In my opinion it's not worth the cost at £469.99.

I watched a high quality video with audio out to my amp with very good speakers using the 10 and Nexus 5.

Audio and picture were much better on the Nexus ( No mods just CM13). I was very disappointed with the 10.

I had an M8 in the past which had amazing audio out both speakers and phono. Same for my Moto X Style and Nexus 6p.

So a definite return.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nathasnajperowa:
Speakers sound rich and full but the volume isn't highest. Plug your wired headphones to phone jack and there is it when magic happens.

Wysłane z mojego HTC_M10h
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bluegrass55:
I did as per my post to amp and very good speakers.

Unless my device is faulty and is giving poor output.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c19932:
HTC 10 - 2 shades of Carbon Gray

Long story short, I have 2 US unlocked HTC 10s here. Both are replacements from HTC. Both should be carbon gray. The darker one is a used phone from HTC. The lighter one came in mint condition in retail packaging through Uh-Oh protection. Maybe the lighter one is a refurbished component? I remember the very first HTC 10 I had was the darker one. Now I am stuck with the lighter one =[

Which one do you guys have?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
50 shades of carbon grey.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] burakgon:
I've Annihilated the tank. You should see that how durable is the HTC 10!

This device is a REAL tank. You should see that:

https://www.facebook.com/burakgoncu12/posts/1061886927240980?notif_t=like&notif_id=1474910517267494
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
HTC 10 / A statement of poverty!

Well, in the beginning I was very in love with this phone, but I was disappointed very soon.

- The best sound without a true music player. I had to buy Power Amp!

- The best camera (some will say it is) without a good gallery to internally organize or edit photos. Google photos is not an option for me. HTC gallery is a read only for the SD card.

- A strong aluminium body with very sharp edges. Hell no. I fell like throwing it away from my hands if used without a case to soften the edges. Maybe they were designed as a mechanical failure / power saving function.

- Disappointingly weak Wi-Fi signal. I had to modify the network, buy a new router, reposition the new router and still no great results.

- A good display that goes blind while using it with polarized sunglasses. Huge failure when most of the glasses these days have polarized lenses.

- A great gaming device that lags my only game. Olympus rising.

- A proper internet browser with embedded add blocker like Samsung have is also missing.

And now what dissapointed me the most!

Yesterday I took some pictures at the kinder garden where my son was celebrating it's 4th anniversary.

So going home I took my wife's phone to transfer 2 GB of pictures and movies via Wi-Fi direct. It was not able to pair and I had to do it via Bluetooth which took me like 2 hrs.

Than, I tried the same but vice versa. Well, surprise! The option to share via Wi-Fi direct is missing. WooW I said, even the cheaper android phones have this option. So I decided to send then via android beam cause previous Bluetooth transfer was too slow. After half an hour an error ocured, so I had to find another method. My wife deleted the pictures from the phone and I paid for Wi-Fi beam from the market to bring back to life the Wi-Fi direct. I sadly discovered that pictures were actually moved from my phone to my wife's phone and they were gone along with the process.

I was extremely pissed off, since my son's anniversary will not return, and no other opportunity to take that photos again. It was a once in a lifetime shot that I missed due to lack of reasonable functionality from this phone.

So I think that this marketing bull**** with slimmed down sense and debloated software it's just a gimmick to justify the poverty in development.

So my precious flagship considerably failed performing a simple life task.

Thank you HTC. My lesson was learned the hard way.

For this reason I consider all the above and the software development for this phone as a true statement of poverty from a company that struggles to survive on a tough market.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChronoReverse:
The only lesson here is you went on a tirade about how there's no WiFi Direct on the HTC 10 when it's present:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurelius99:
Recommendation: Get a new phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] comstockload:
Thanks for the rant. Thank god I am not a developer trying to please a perfectionist! Fact is, there isn't a phone that will be perfect in every way for everyone. I happen to love the HTC 10 with custom rom and kernel. Not having any problems with it.

PS

You should have got the n7 music player. Good luck.

---------- Post added at 05:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:08 PM ----------

You beat me to it. :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thedodus:
Sounds like you've got a wicked case of user error.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
I challenge you to share some files with a Samsung phone without root and custom rom.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
This was the new phone :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Yes, when I took this phone. :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurelius99:
I would highly recommend a good custom rom (Viper) and kernel (EX) for the 10. I probably wouldn't like it much either on the stock rom. The difference is night and day. Unlike Samsung, HTC has made their device relatively easy to customize.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Thank you! Give me a good reason to do this. I have used Viper ROM on my old One X and I don't recall such a huge difference. I took this phone because I like it not because I really needed. But the user experience is... let's say challenging.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Boom Sound was a better choice over the Boom Battery.

I already have the S7 so Note 7 was not a real necessity. For what concerns music player the hi-fi is not the supreme argument. But a decent player to stream music over Bluetooth to my sound sistem can be a deal breaker. And HTC seems to lack this option. It's like ... I'm purchasing the best sound board for PC and then I have to pay for the drivers. Just that dumb since the sound from this phone was one of the key argument in sales.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwake4goten:
I just came to this phone from M8 and I have to agree with OP in certain ways that I feel this is underwhelming compared to M8. Doubt get me wrong it's a lot faster obviously but It's a little boring compared to M8. No stereo speakers and IR blaster...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurelius99:
The default vibration level on the stock setup is 69% with no way to change it.

Stock kernel is slower. No fine tuning of the CPU cores.

Cannot set up a simple lockscreen without apps on it.

Cellular and Wifi connections not as good.

Cannot customize how QS are displayed.

Cannot install great apps that require root. No custom recovery.

Theming is not complete.

Significantly better audio mods available. Can't use them.

Generally less responsive and a plain vanilla UI.

I would not have bought this phone had HTC pulled a Samsung on the end users. I wouldn't even consider an S7. The 10 works for me and I have it set up exactly how I like it. Best phone I have ever had, and I've had plenty. That's my $0.02. Keep the change.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Your answer was dully noted with thanks. Kindly note that my bank app requires a non rooted device to work. Not really a problem since I can use the other one for this purpose, but I feel like HTC is slowly loses it's identity when discontinued proprietary apps like Music, Gallery, Internet Browser and so on. I equally love Samsung and HTC for this unique touch over pure android. If Sense or Touchwiz will disappear some day my next logic choice will be the iPhone. Now you get the point?

Even so I will strongly consider your opinion.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurelius99:
Well, the good news is that HTC has announced that the 10 will be getting an update to Nougat in the next couple of months. That may be a good improvement for those who want to stay on a stock rom. As for me, it's custom. I'm too spoiled now to go back to stock. Happy trails....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] comstockload:
I am guessing that HTC will also be bringing its preinstalled apps up to date with Nougat. Better Gallery, Music Player, Camera app, and so on. Looking forward to the update.:)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Regarding you last edit: let's not start a debate for S7 vs HTC 10. I own both, and they have their own charm. A sort of love and hate for HTC / love and boring for Samsung. Otherwise Samsung is a less painless experience.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] comstockload:
Same here. When I found out that the US version of the S7E couldn't be rooted I sent it back. Now the Note 7s are bursting into flames. Staying with htc 10. Love it. :laugh:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurelius99:
Here is my lockscreen. Impossible to do this on the stock rom, and very few custom roms....

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
And for the ones that are interested more about functionality over design? Any hope? :)

Here's a ring tone suggestion for you!

I have a blue house with a blue window

Blue is the colour of all that I wear

Blue are the streets and all the trees are too

I have a girlfriend and she is so blue
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gillim74:
Simple solution research fully before you buy anything
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
I will probably root my device some day, but seriously speaking. This doesn't justify the lack of some basic functionality out of the box.

It is sold as a smart phone not a developer kit.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] linx1287:
WiFi Direct works fine as i have to regularly transfer files to my Note 3. As for the S7 vs 10 argument....they are completely different beasts geared towards completely different interests....for the camera enthusiast... there is no better device, for the audio 10 wins by a landslide....i love the 10, but i admit it has one or two flaws...namely a dodgy battery life for me....but i can get through the day with double digits so cant complain that much

if the default wifi direct option doesnt work, try shareit, and as for audio, try Phonograph....served me well since the Note 3
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
You are absolutely right regarding those two flagships. Thanks!

For what concerns the HTC, option for sharing files via Wi-Fi direct is missing.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] linx1287:
you may need to either re-check the device settings completely to make sure....if that is so, then there is something wrong with your installed OS....Wifi Direct is baked right into the Wifi Settings and works flawlessly with my Note 3 and my friend's S7 Edge
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Ok, I know, can be turned on from Wifi settings, then I go to gallery or file manager, I select the desired files/ share via ??? Wifi direct which is missing :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] csoulr666:
Your criticisms are valid, but some of them can be easily rectified

While many decent music players are present. PowerAmp is worth buying. It's even better if you get it on sale like I did.

Quickpic is a highly versatile and minimalistic gallery app. There are similar ones like Leafpic and Cluttr, though I couldn't read SD card contents on Cluttr

Might I suggest Nochromo, a chromium based browser with adblock. If you install it, before opening it, give it permissions for contacts so that it can sync your history and bookmarks. Also the version you would need to download is the ARM64 one.(If you do that sort of thing)

If native file sharing doesn't work, you could try apps like Xender or ShareIT. They are much faster compared to bluetooth as they use Wi-fi to transfer files(Not sure if they use Wi-fi Direct or do it via ad hoc networks)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Thank you, for what concern the apps that is exactly what I did. But the part with file sharing and loosing the pics was a true disappointment.

Before purchasing this phone I was aware that proprietary apps were replaced with google apps "to debloat the software" but a friend told me that can be downloaded from play store. Now I see that reality is different.

Well, I got myself with a tough phone and I have to teach him to serve me the way I thought it will [emoji2]

Still thinking if root and viper rom will make it smoother, faster or it will add the missing options or proprietary apps that I'm complaining about.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rolo42:
htc's bloated apps are why I avoided them. Their ditching all that (and unavailability of the Note 7) is why I have the 10 now.

I don't want htc to try to make every app; I want them to make a good phone at a good price. I want app developers to make the best apps. I don't want shovelware from OEMs or OSes. You spent ~$1,200 on phones and complain about spending $4 for an app? Seriously?

You aren't asking for "drivers" or "basic functionality"; you want full-featured applications included with the device.

The 10's body is a thing of beauty and function. I hate putting a case on it, it's so nice but I would hate to have dropped it even more. I've already returned two premium cases because they diminished the feel and usability of the phone.

Gallery is read-only probably because you failed to set permissions. There are plenty of photo apps available on the Play store, Amazon, F-Droid rather than resorting to abandonware.

The 10's WiFi range has been much better than my Nexus 5. I'm getting fantastic LTE speeds (that rival DSL/cable) with barely one bar out in the sticks.

How are polarized glasses htc's fault? They don't have Scotty and they canna change the laws of physics! I'm in the same boat (going to have to get unpolarized lenses--the Nexus 5 was livable but this isn't; I assume the higher DPI is the reason).

How are repeated user errors from you and your wife htc's fault? htc didn't delete your photos...you and your wife did. Good grief, man. And use USB cables for important gigabytes of stuff. And cloud backup. You mean you could WiFi transfer to another phone but not to Google Drive, Zonerama, et. al.? If you had used Google Photos--the app that came preloaded--you would have had a cloud backup automatically without doing anything and you could have just shared the album with your wife and anyone else.

Chrome is the browser of choice. AdAway is the adblocker of choice. These are options available to you and the latter blocks ads everywhere, not just the browser. Ditch the bank app (or that bank) if you want to control your own phone rather than let someone else control it for you. In time, this won't be a problem; it's how these things have gone for decades. I could never own a phone that wasn't rooted. No way...they're way too annoying and intrusive.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] AdamColligan:
Didn't disappear; just hiding....

Just turn that sucker 90 degrees. The screen polarization is for horizontal use, rather than vertical or a 45-degree compromise. I presume this is so you can get the full benefit of screen brightness in bright sunlight/sunglasses while shooting proper video or using it in a dashboard mount.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
My conclusion:

So far here's what I've learned from you:

- if I had the money to buy a new HTC I should have some extra to spend on apps that should be there in the first place.

- I have to use LTE if wireless is not working.

- I have to change my polarized sunglasses since they are non compatible with this phone. :)

- me and my wife are booth dumb for not handling accordingly a damn phone right? I will ask the local university maybe they will arange some HTC training classes.

- I sould either change my bank, or ditch that stupid app that spares me to stay in line with the others waiting for a cashier to collect the payment for my bills right?

- Chrome is your browser of choice, mine is the Samsung internet browser with embeded add blocker. I hate slowing down my internet through a local VPN that consumes resources (battery and ram). Plus that all my apps are purchased and don't show adds, the only app showing adds is the Taptalk cause I do not like monthly fees. If there will be a pro version I will definetly buy it.

So I only need an add blocker for my internet browser. But in the mean time HTC teached me do dig deeper and discovered Chromium and Pyrope (the last mentioned browser filters the adds better)

- I should take privacy into my own hands and forget about HTC's original development (they are dumb anyway) and trust a bunch of young developers testing their skills on our skins right?

Well, that's not really a choice for me and others users like me.

I'm kindly reminding you that I purchased a device that was supposed to be fully functional out of the box.

It was addressed as a smartphone not a developer kit. BoomSound and hi-fi ear buds are not the supreme argument for me.

I also think you never owned a Samsung phone before in your life. Obviously you never been spoiled by a fully featured and fully functional phone.

This might be the main reason why you have no ideea how a flagship should look like.

Bloated or not, my S7 is still smoother and faster than HTC's flagship.

For what concerns the amoled screen, camera (booth software and hardware), battery life and user experience ... Trust me but all together makes HTC 10 look like a bad joke.

So here's a picture for you!

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5815b296e9a97/IMAG0166.jpg?

HTC is not in it since it was used to take the picture. So don't complain about picture quality. Is was a point and shot only :)

PS: I see that I have no other choice but rooting the device and install a custom ROM to make it as close as possible and almost fully featured phone. So the price difference between flagships will soon overpass the Samsung right? A little from here, a little from there, 5 for the music, 25 for sunshine, 10 for the case, 50 for a new router, 10-15 for cables and car charger, eventually an OTG for USB transfer (as I learned from you).

Hell no my friend. My previously owned HTC devices (Sensation, One X and M8) were not that dumb, trust me with this one.

So as I said before, the new HTC flagship is nothing else but a statement of poverty from a slowly dying company with some die hard fans.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rolo42:
Rather than reading what I said, you read into what I said.

I'm not having any of the problems you are having and I've everything you've done (except gaming...haven't done or commented on that yet) quite successfully with this phone.

Update on the polarization:

Had you done 5 minutes of research, you would have learned that LCD screens have a polarizer and OLED screens do not; two polarizers will conflict. You would also have learned that rotating the LCD screen 90 degrees would eliminate the conflict and you would be able to see your screen with polarized sunglasses.

This is an issue with ALL LCD screens, not just this phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Lets cut this argue here cause it's just a nonsense.

I took this phone because i like it, and i still like it. If root and custom rom is the final answer so be it. I will do it to see the difference. So because you seem to be an expert on this guide me to the best rom and kernel.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] comstockload:
Hilarious. Bottom line: My 10 runs circles around that bloated, fingerprint magnet, known as the Samsung S7. Better pictures. Better audio. Faster. There are videos on youtube documenting the faster speed of the 10.

This isn't a Samsung forum so buzz off :laugh:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ionut Ciprian:
Hold your horses young man.

Honesty is punished here or what?

I just got it s-off so hold on. I will revert after root and custom rom.

Last edit: I don't know exactly what "Bottom Line" means but I think your HTC 10 circles around the Samsung to see how a real smartphone should look like. Beautifully shaped without sharp edges, elegant glass, an amazing display, the best camera, fast wireless charging, a fully featured software, perfectly functional proprietary apps and so on. Things that our HTC's can only dream at.

I had to root and install Viper Rom to achieve a working gallery app, so ...

I insist, the HTC 10 is the most dumb (software wise) and uninspired design ever (except the M9).

But, it seems like HTC knew that this phone is a complete crap and wanted to beat some statistic records: only 3mm thin on the edges. Yeah right, those sharp and useless edges.

Trust me, the M8 was better in every way.

PS: when you say that 10 is faster than S7 I think you really mean that US/Canada version with SD 820 right? Cause exynos is miles away from your description.