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[HTC 10 Real Life Review] dinocasino:
I'm curious to hear which router model you are running, and which wifi security settings?

Also, have you checked that wifi connectivity keeps working even if you move in to a nearby room (out of sight of your router). I found that my HTC 10 had great trouble keeping the wifi signal if I moved to another room, which was still less than 10 metres from the router. Stock european HTC 10 on a Netgear Nighthawk R7500 router.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] dlads:
Using virgin, 30 feet plus isn't an issue.. Speed is top notch and comparable to all pcs, lappies and phones I own.. No issues at all.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] astek86:
Hello. I tested with other routers and interesting results. My router is not something I Komal. (ASUS RT-N18U) and before that there is a (Dasan H640GW GPON ONT) with the wifi Subscribe refused to join hand. However, the router can connect neighbors and there is not jettisoning it. (TP-Link) And I do not know that you are the drivers of the phone can be a hassle or do not want my my router? Or maybe I should try something Rom?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] pomponazzo:
Here in France, we very often use our operator's router, an all-in-one box that comes free with the the subscription. No need to get a separate router, as long as it performs OK. I use an Orange Livebox, same SSID on 2.4 and 5 GHz, WPA/WPA2 mixed security.

I live in a large house, very good signal on both floors, and even in my yard, which is located much further than 10m (about 30m with walls in between) away from the router. The 10 cleverly switches between 5 and 2.4GHz when needed. I'm really happy with the WiFi on my 10, that's why I think there might be an issue with yours...
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] arneetsingh:
Hello everyone,

I have been thinking to buy HTC 10,but I am really sceptical about this WiFi issue.

Please tell if its fixed in latest OTA updates or not.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] SteveO2013:
I am on 1.95 and my WiFi signal is terrible. And what is worse my network signal is also weak. On spots where iPhone has 3/5 bars on 3G this one has none or 1 bar. What the hell?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Ionut Ciprian:
Did someone disabled the the Wi-Fi optimization from advanced menu?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] CharliesTheMan:
The WiFi performance has actually been pretty good on my HTC 10, and it's surprising because for some reason, the house I stay at often has wireless reception like that of a sardine can. It's like the walls are lined with aluminum foil or something. We barely get voice calls on our mobile devices, and wifi drops off signifigantly when it goes through the walls to my bedroom, in fact I've had to put range extenders at the corner for previous mobile devices. But I'm just running the regular router now (it and the mobile devices are better than they were when I had range extenders) and stock Netgear firmware, and my wifi performance is pretty good.

Oh also, my netgear "Smart Connect" is disabled, and the 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz networks have different SSID's and I manually switch between them. My security type is WPA2-PSK(AES)

I have wifi optimization checked in advance wifi settings, keep wifi on during sleep, and auto switch to mobile network is disabled.

I'm using a Netgear R7000 router, and the 2.4 ghz band for daily use. It's a US unlocked HTC 10 that I bought retail from HTC.com. I'm running Viper Rom and Elemental X kernel.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] sercos72:
I have same setup and no wifi issue.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
HTC 10 T-Mobile variant:

WiFi seems to be connected, but sometimes there is no internet and it happens when device is just sitting on the table in standby mode. Other phones(Note 5, Moto X, Blackberry Z10) that I have at home don't do that.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] stev32k:
I wonder if any of you guys having WiFi problems have tried removing any protective cases on the phone. Some cases may be reducing/blocking the signal before it gets to the antenna. That happened to me on a phone I use to have. I Had a really hard time connecting and staying connected to WiFi until I removed the protective case.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] CharliesTheMan:
When you wake it up and start to use it, does internet come on and all of the notifications and such come through all at once?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
I have seen what you described, but that was not the issues for me. The main issue was just I pick up the phone, than want to browse the web or go to play store and is seems that phone is trying to pull the info from the internet, but it can't. I can turn airplane mode off/on and internet seems to be working after that.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] CharliesTheMan:
Hmmm I haven't dealt with that symptom then. I did have some Wi-Fi problems with random slow speed and I finally figured out it was both my router settings and speed test server, and it's been good for weeks with constant use in the same environment that was giving me problems. But it wasn't what yours is doing, hopefully someone else can help there.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Quadrider10:
yup, i seem to have very poor throughput. on my 5GHz AC router, all of my devices receive 100mbps down and 20mbps up. my 10 only receives 25mbps down and 15mbps up. this is on both 2.4 and 5ghz from about 2' away from the router.

is there any known solution for this?

i JUST ran an ruu to updater to the latest version. phone is US Unlocked Version.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
I have ordered HTC 10 on Monday and received it today. I can't comment about WiFi yet(need to test), but Bluetooth range seems to be less than other phones. Basically on Note 5 I could leave my phone and go to my room, which about 2 walls from where I left the phone and I could still talk, although I could hear that I am far from phone. With HTC 10, if I go to the bathroom which is only 1 wall away from phone, I can hear popping/crackling already. I have made this test on 2 HTC 10 phones, one was T-Mobile variant and another one unlocked, which I recently got.

Update: Starting to notice WiFi issues and this time even if I was using the phone and then decide to launch a news app for example or play store...I get a message that there is no internet connection, but phone is connected to WiFi. At the same time I check my PC and it does have internet. So on the phone, I turn off wifi and then back on and it starts working again. My router is configured properly and worked with many phones that I had. I even restarted my router couple of times. Don't know what is happening with HTC 10.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
I spent 2 + hours trying find out why my phone has WiFi issues. Played with router settings, restarted the phone multiple times, used another phone to test on 2 devices and looks like Bluetooth could be an issue. So when Bluetooth is off, WiFi is working fine and loads pages, Play Store or any other apps that need internet. When Bluetooth is on, then WiFi isn't good and many apps spin the "refresh" icon for longer times. I launched Speed Test app and Bluetooth was on and the testing was weird, took longer time to detect ping and slower internet speed. While testing I turned off Bluetooth and got better results.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] thejesse:
Next time I have a weak wifi connection I will turn off Bluetooth and see if there is any change.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] dlads:
What radio are you using? Does it match the rom / firmware you're using?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
I can't provide this info, as the phone is already packaged, but I have not done any changes to the phone. One was T-Mobile branded and another one I bought unlocked from htc.com recently. After many tests I have uncovered other issues with mic not working when phone switching from Band 4 to 12 during a call. I initiated a return and sending the phone back to htc for a refund. I will be using Galaxy s7 edge.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Quadrider10:
So had anyone reported this fixed with Android N?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Charkatak:
If you are referring to issues that my phone is experiencing, then no, Android 7 did nothing.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Superguy:
HTC really dropped the ball on wifi here. When I'm on the main floor of my house (using AC), my Wifi is fine. If I go upstairs, I have to put my phone downward or the signal gets flaky.

My M8 never had this problem.

It's really it's been several months, many complaints, and HTC still hasn't done anything about it.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Quadrider10:
i mean the poor throughput problem
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] techlogik:
My HTC One A9 has better distance/range performance than the 10 does, easily. Definitely an issues with the HTC 10. I also know, that signal bars don't mean anything, Apple users can attest to that a few years ago when it showed good range, and really, they were tweaking the range display to show higher than it actually was getting. They fixed it.

But, this isn't just a signal/programming thing on the HTC 10, it is a reality issue with range on my phone.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] crayola555:
Just got this phone a couple days ago, no problems with the wifi. I was actually kinda worried since I was reading this thread and ordered the phone but it seems fine, the connection and speed were just like my previous m8. Maybe a bad batch from htc?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] ExMM:
I used to have lots of problems with wi-fi speed when this phone was just out on the market, but HTC did a good job with the updates.

The last 3/4 firmwares fixed all my issue.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Reuben_skelz92:
Wi-Fi is pretty weak on this phone
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] ludovicien:
Wi-Fi and mobile data reception are poor on this phone. I now realize I was a bit harsh on the Axon 7 I sent back and that I've been spoiled by having an Honor 7 for a year, which excelled at both.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] matthiassomay:
Do you get different Speedtest results on the 10? I've tested the speed on my laptop and a S7, both get excellent results, but the 10 unfortunately not. I'm on Nougat.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Quadrider10:
Does anyone have any sort of fixes for the poor throughput?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Brutale1090!:
Any news about this theme?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] berat7675:
To be honest, i can't complain about the WI-FI strengh. Compared with my old M7, the range is also better. Software Number: 1.95.401.4
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] revealed:
Stock EU. I have about 14 routers in neighborhood and a heliport and weather station (radar) of a hospital like 50 metres away. So we have to coexist on some few channels that do not have to be freed when a heli arrives.

Also i have to use low numbered channels to bypass the DFS waiting caused by radar, e.g. 36 to 48. In fact i have to live with lower bandwith. Since in 5Ghz higher channels grant little mor throughput.

In 2.4 Ghz Wifi i have to live with all my neigbours. So i and many others share channels 1, 6 , 11. All others get connection issues ;) It is their problem not ours. They dont know about coexistance.

Router: AVM FritzBox 6490.

The router is amplifying its bandwith by usage. I can walk 2 floors downstairs with enabled 5 Ghz.

I have to say this is by far the fastest and most stable WLAN expirience i got so far in my life.

With the HTC 10 I can even reach a WLan hotspot from my DSL provider that is somewhere in this district. I could not reach this before with my old HTC One S (Testing while sitting in my flat).

Maybe this has to do with some special routers / firmwares? I know i had problems with my old smartphone with an older AVM product.

PS.: I was interested on how you measure the throughput exactly. Maybe i see wrong information or think my wlan is sufficient, while it is not. I was interested in comparing results under same conditions.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Brutale1090!:
thank you all. Semms like somebody has the problem, someone else no, and software didn't solve it.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Haldi4803:
You install aPerf or similar on your phone and iPerf or Jperf on your computer which has a wired connection to the Router/WLan Hotspot.

But it's actually pretty easy to differ by Range.

Your phone has a bigger range than Device X means it has better signal.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] revealed:
Ah ok now i found out something. The fritzbox by avm actually has a iperf installed. And they offer a tool to measure this. Fritz App WLAN. According to this when i'm in the same room as the router in 5 ghz connection it says with a life monitor:

Channel 48 - 5,24 Ghz - WPA2

-53 dbm, 650 Mbit/s

When i go in the most far away room in my flat to the corner almost outside the building it goes down to:

-60 dbm, 260 Mbit/s

Now is this good or not? I dont know. My ISP can offer me 100 Mbit downstream currently. So my internet is not slowed by WLan.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Haldi4803:
That's 650Mbit/s theoretical performance right?

You can also see that value if you got to WiFi settings and click on the current connected Network.

If you go to developer settings, and select advanced WiFi logging, you can see the RSSI levels also in WiFi settings.

I'm currently standing in front of my router and have -52db and 270mbits.

In the other room I get -78db and 240mbits
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] revealed:
Uhm i just figured it seems to not be sufficient to just enable the Iperf on the router. Somehow the app still blames about theres no Iperf server enabled.

Screen with dev setting

Need to check that. As far as i can see it is quite similar to what the Fritz App WLAN showing.

So thats when you directly stand next to it? In the UI of my router it states that it could even connect with 780 / 650 Mbit/s. <- I think this was the theoretical value already?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] chaddr18:
my htc m9 in 6.0 is a beast , the htc 10 with 7.0 in the same location lost signal always
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] adri123:
Hi all,

i tried all the tips here but still no good wifi on my HTC10. Do you think i could replace the wifi chip ? Is that even doable ?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Kam0laZ:
My HTC 10 is about 2 years old, and from about 4 months ago until now it has been having some weird kernel related wakelocks.

It barely holds a full battery charge for 24 hours, if I leave it all day sitting idle on my desk. According to GSAM, it drains 3%+ per hour while idle.

I've tried every trick I could find on the web, even factory resets and installing custom ROMs (currently on LeeDroid), the only thing that stops the wakelock is if I turn airplane mode on.

I have to keep bluetooth on due to earpiece and smartwatch, but even with bluetooth off it drains the same. Wifi is off unless I need it, location is on battery saving mode, wifi and bt scanning is off.

According to GSAM and BBS, the wakelock is not related to any particular app, it's about bluetimer or some power manager process. This leads me to believe that it's somehow hardware related.

I say this, because, at about the same time that the wakelock showed up (it just happened suddenly, I didn't install or uninstall anything nor did I mess with any configuration prior to its appearance), the wifi quality, although not the best, dropped to near unusable tier.

My router is just behind a brick wall from where I usually work. Before the wakelock, the phone could catch a decent signal with two brick walls between it and the router. Now, where I work, the phone catches full signal but has trouble keeping a stable connection. Even with a full wifi signal, there's often errors due to loss of connection. Doing app updates from the Play Store takes ages, it almost looks like that it's downloading at dial-up speeds, even if I move and put the phone right next to the router.

The phone is out of warranty and I don't know how and where to fix it, nor how much it would cost to fix and if it would be like new, or even if it's fixable. I like this bugger, but I think that it's time to shelf it.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] PieHoleDepravity:
Something happened 4 months ago, so twrp backup 1st, then restore a backup prior to 4 months ago. Any improvement?

Has the router been restarted at any time, like this month or year even?

You say the router is at work, that sometimes you have reasonable signal strength but poor throughput. Are there others in your place of work connected to the router?

If you're able, restart the router (unplug it for a few seconds, not soft restart). Does signal strength/throughput improve immediately afterwards?

Many questions and no answers I know but getting to the bottom of these things isn't so difficult.

Try not to be too influenced by reports of difficulties from other owners. If people who have no problems were to report as much, those with issues would be a tiny fraction of the total reports. it's easy to become discouraged by the apparently similar experiences of others. As an example I've recently moved objects or routers away from objects such as coffee makers, aquariums, microwaves, mirrors, fire extinguishers (the list goes on) all with success in improving throughput. Yet the owners had been prepared to replace their phones.

Good luck
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Zekoslawen:
YMMV. Slightly better than my old DHD, beats out all my laptops. A friend with another 10 running Oreo (mine runs Nougat) can't get reception 3m from the wall in the room next door to the router.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Nick.Mon:
HORRIBLE WIFI. Drops connection one room away from the router. Resets to a crawling speed. Cannot even stream a song. No other phone in my house does that.

With a flaw like this, how come its overall rating comes to 4.15 ?... That's ridiculous.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the HTC 10's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Overstew:
While data connectivity appears to be quite solid on this device, for someone with a lot of knowledge in how RF performance works, I can say this device could use some optimizations. I am seeing dBm readings on both AT&T/T-Mobile bands to be 3 to 5 dBm weaker in signal throughput vs the Galaxy S7 (carrier versions). This means at the edge of signal, the device is much more likely to drop off than to hang onto a fringe signal.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] dlads:
Will retest at home but the same sim in my old phone at home on my previous phone, nexus 6P could get up to around 150mb down stream and over 45mb upstream.. Insane speeds for 4G..i haven't tested this as of yet but will do once I'm in the house, just having a pint ;)
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] mzrdisi:
Signal quality is a step down when inside compared to previous phones I've owned. This phone has a hard time holding on to weak signal, especially when inside. My Note 5 and Turbo 2 did not have problems like the HTC 10 has.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] dlads:
Here's my thread with my results. Very little if not no difference to my Nexus 6p.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3388453

---------- Post added at 11:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 PM ----------

The metal chassis of this phone will impact performance however in the 4g tests, no difference, I've never had a lost call either. All very good so far.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the HTC 10's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] jollywhitefoot:
Top volume I find it's very loud, but a little distorted. Drop down one level and it's still loud enough but clarity improves
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] vegetaleb:
The speakers are very loud, specially in theater mode, it's perhaps 3x louder and more detailed than an A9
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Ricardo_G:
while you don´t matter the ring sound you will be fine

When you hear music is good but not so loud that M8/M9 even M7, IN HEADPHONES ARE VERY VERY GOOD

but if you expect a good ringtone sound...forget it, in this configuration the ringtone only sound the lower speaker ( When the phone rings)

the ring call sounds muffled and very low, same for notifications, alarms and messages

don´t think place a song like ringtone.... this will be sound TERRIBLE
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] nipun1110:
I don't understand how people calling the speaker loud. I find it a bit opposite. While I cannot say the music coming out of the speakers is low (definitely can't call it loudest), the vocals or speech in the youtube videos are definitely not loud at all. I find quite hard time listening to youtube reviews videos in a room with a ceiling fan running. I am using Insertcoin Rom.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] junaidshahidcom:
Much Louder

it is much louder than other cells but it is my most fav cell phone

regards Junaid Shahid
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] PryvateiDz:
Loudness to me seems quite average, but pretty clear and non-distorted. Then again, I don't think I thought the HTC 10 seemed that loud.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] SponTen:
I literally just got my HTC 10 today and I found this to be the case too... at first. I'm not sure what it was, but after updating YouTube, the volume went through the roof.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] nipun1110:
Updating youtube solved the problem?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] SponTen:
It seemed to. I don't know if it was that or something else, but basically I was shocked at how soft the speakers were, then YouTube closed and updated, then I reopened and played music at a decent volume.

Weird huh.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] cavist:
Everybody noticed how top speaker is way to quiet comparing to bottom bass speaker? In Black Player EX to balance the both speakers even I need to lower the bottom speaker to about 15-20% to have them both at about same level.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] mzrdisi:
Volume is average. Not much louder or quieter than most phones I've had in the last few years. It certainly seems clearer though than other phones where their volume is definitely louder. (They tend to distort at high volumes, limitation of physics with space constraint within the phone.)
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] cavist:
Really anyone?
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] nipun1110:
+1
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Ricardo_G:
yes, the top speaker is designed for low frequencies and the bottom for bass, for this the upper speaker never will sound with the same power and for to balance you have to apply more balance setting
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] SponTen:
Overall I've just found the volume to be a little soft to be marketed as "BoomSound". My girlfriend's iPhone 6 has a louder speaker! And the quality is great, but sometimes sounds... I dunno, hollow? It's a bit like I'm listening through a pipe, or in a concert hall or something.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] cavist:
So many HTC10 users and no one bothers to check in 5 seconds if the top speaker is on purpose much more silent than bottom speaker in playing even a simple stock ringtone

-_-
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] nathasnajperowa:
With standard htc ringtones it seems to be otherwise you claim. Upper speaker gets higher volume. Probably reason is that htc intend to use trebble & whistle like ringtones which use more upper speaker involved in producing sound.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] schmeggy929:
Just the opposite here with music ringtones, Game of Thrones mp3 and 2 others are louder and clearer than any music player including Pandora. And both speakers are being used when phone rings, alarms and messages. So that's not true.
[HTC 10 Real Life Review] Ricardo_G:
strange and interesting

- strange because several people comments about the same problem in this page and another homepages like android central and reddit

http://xdaforums.com/htc-10/help/make-speakers-louder-t3384367/post67080184#post67080184

- Interesting....what version are you using ( M10 us version-M10 H Eu asia version)- what firmware version is?- root or unroot? what is your settings?