[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] acemcbuller:
Here's my experience with a Piel Frama case.

I give it 2/10. The pluses are protection and quality.

The minuses are below:

1) Plastic keyboard cover

First I struggled to get the Tytn II into it. It was hard to get the plastic keyboard cover to slip between the keyboard and the screen.

Later I found it gets scrunched up by the closing screen, making it harder to close the screen and hard to see and use the keyboard. I kept pressing the keyboard menu keys when meaning to push nearby keys like 'T' etc. I sent a number of SMS messages by mistake because of this.

Eventually I got a knife and cut the cover so that instead of pointing towards the screen it is straight or angled away. So: __ or \/ rather that /\

That seemed to help but I stopped using the case shortly afterwards so can't really say. The cover holds the PDA in the case so cutting it off completely isn't an option.

Clear plastic also covers the power and camera buttons which makes them hard to find and press. Access to the USB port was a bit tricky too.

2) Unsecure

If the stud comes undone and the case is hanging the 'wrong way up' on the belt clip the PDA will fall out of the case! Unfortunately this is likely since hanging this 'wrong way up'. is also liable to force the stud open by pushing the stud flap against the belt clip.

I've heard suggestions about putting Velcro strips on the PDA and the case to keep it in (perhaps without the keyboard cover?) but I don't like that idea.

3) Belt clip

One day when getting of a bus, something got caught. The front part of the supplied belt clip ripped off resulting in case and bits of clip falling into the gutter. In a rush I didn't pick up all the bits and so had to find a replacement clip at a silly cost from Expansys.

The clip is also one that spins freely rather than various settings.

3) Inconvenient spine

The jog wheel and voice button are on the same side as the spine of the case. So your fingers or thumb (depending on left or right handed) cannot curl round to use them unless you fold the whole front flap completely back180 desgees.

4) Stylus storage

Finally, there is not a hole for the stylus to go into its normal slot inside the PDA. Instead the stylus has to go in the leather sleeve on the case. While the case is done up the stylus is held in tight. When open though there is the potential for of the stylus fall out. Somewhere I have lost two styli because of this in three months. That doesn't include the times I found the stylus again else it would be a lot more!

All these failings are a real shame because it does protect the PDA very well with leather at all corners. Otherwise it's a big disappointment.

I've now got the Noreve case and found it solves many of these problems. It has:

a hole for the stylus slot,

no keyboard cover yet holds the PDA firmly even when it the keyboard is open.

a small spine so the jog wheel and voice button are accessible.

My only observations so far are:

the leather could have been extended around a few more corners to enhance the protection.

The stud doesn't quite naturally mean the stud hole. As others have said the flap should be slightly shorter.

A pouch for a business card or screen wipe would be nice.

I'd like the spine to be a bit more substantial. Not sure how or why but maybe a little wider and stiffer. It just makes the front feel a bit too 'flappy'.

But overall I am so much happier!

Hope that helps some people choose a case.

James