yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
NO! there isn't any hope. Forget it!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Keeper:
Hey hendrixus, you shouldn't say it that way...it's has if you were telling to a cancer patient: "No! you are going to DIE! there's no HOPE! period!"

There's always hope.

So to be able to use WM5 on magicians (and who knows, even wm6 later on), the first step would be to build a way of having direct hardware access, which means that SOMEONE would have to donate one magician (dead or not), so that we could do this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG

Reason: WM5 and WM6 uses a different way of boot loading windows mobile, NOT compatible with wm2k3 bootloader. It would be necessary to create/mod/ one wm5/6 bootloader and test it on the magician's hardware.

(If you want to know, i've been trying for the past 2-3 weeks, so to get one damaged qtek s100~s110 but it seems that noone is willing to sell me one, cheap, and i'm not into paying alot of cash for something that is damaged...)

Keeper
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
Cancer is something totally different then this, man! I have cancer myself so I know what I am talking about.

In this case, WM5/6 for the Magician and adapts there isn't any hope. Read the forum and you will know why.

Somebody once wrote "Useless threads requesting it have gone long enough on this section of XDA-developers to warrant it." and I do agree, here

So forget about it and go on with your life. If you can't buy a new device.

But if YOU want to live up to a dream, be my guest. I rather stick to reality ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Keeper:
hendrixus, i don't need to read any more forum threads about "how there isn't a wm2k5" and so on. I've been here for the past 2 (almost 3 years) and although i haven't posted much, i've been reading alot. Anyway this is a hobby to me. I certainly wouldn't be has much interested in all this magician subject if i had the latest top noch pda, since it probably would support everything (what doesn't the TyTN II supports?).

Anyway, what teases me is studying/making/acomplish something that was supposed to be impossible to do. I'm not expecting to be able to make a wm2k5 for the magician, but at least i would like to open a few doors for those who would like to do more.

I know the path that will be needed to take so to have a working wm2k5:

Quote from Buzz:

What is needed to be done is a bootloader for the magician. With JTAG you can (at least) try different bootloaders from different models. If one works, we are half way so to get a working wm2k5. If none works, alot of disassemble will prolly be required and/or someone will have to build a bootloader with the help of windows ce 5.0 kit (this is the worst scenario -> how to is in here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )

anyway, 1st step: jtag, has i've already explained.

Keeper
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
I must say I wish you all the best in creating.

I like my Magician as it is now. I have several devices running WM5 or WM6.0 Stiil I am using the Magician as cellphone, GPS, wifi, ad2p, with the Taxist 2.03WWE ROM :D

Second best is my upgraded (to WM6) BA
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
Yeah, I have many devices, but the Magician is one of my favorites because it's much thinner than the Wizard and Apache (I don't really need the slide-out keyboard), a nice clean shape and design, nice feel because it's made of metal, and it has a much faster CPU.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hersh25:
Meracle!!! do you? thats will be great. but i think we are all need a cooparation to invent new thing.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ESmazter:
As the sticky says:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=240960

There is no WM5 or 6 for us!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ESmazter:
Okay, so if everyone wants a WM6 rom, we should collect some information.

First of: Whats the problem by flashing just another rom? I think its because it has a different CPU and also different chipsets and drivers built in. Is this right? 2nd: Is the Ram enough? I think it is because the ASUS P526 has also 64 MB Ram.

The CPU: HTC Himalaya has the same CPU as our Magician.

So what do you else know about the hardware of the Magician? What graphic and soundchipset does it use. And what about all the other chips. We could cook our own rom if the first part is right.

BTW: If you brick your Magician, can you still flash it again?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
The RAM and ROM are enough. I think the problem is no WM5 was ever leaked for Magician. Drivers aren't as big of a deal, it's the device-specific files in the XIP that are a problem, as well as the SPL/IPL. You need a compatible SPL/IPL which contains the bootloader and handheld equivelant of system bios. It's possible some other device's SPL/IPL will work, but all it takes is one flash that doesn't work to brick the phone permanently. That's why someone needs to figure out JTAG points in order to unbrick a bricked phone because experimenting with SPL/IPL is almost guaranteed to brick it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hersh25:
Guys we should lookfor new generation of magician phones. i have a questuon is MDA COMPACT II magician or not if it is a magician so be happy, we can also gain magician because the current system of MDA II is a windows mobile 5.0
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
MDA COMPACT II is a Charmer, not a Magician.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
Why another useless new thread here?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Keeper:
Okey, let me give you guys (once again) a small explanation about all this:

1st:

So to have a Windows Mobile 2005 or 2006 you NEED a bootloader compatible with this "new" operating systems because wm2k5 / 2k6 devices, have a different way of loading the ROM images (aka NK.nbf aka Operating System), which AIN'T COMPATIBLE WITH MAGICIAN'S WM2K3 BOOTLOADER.

(I hope that putting in uppercase and bold is enough for you to understand the reason why NO WM2k5/2k6 will ever work by just upgrading to them without a wm2k5/wm2k6 bootloader.)

2nd:

The "new" way of bootloading uses what is called IPL/SPL ( Initial program load / Secondary Program Load ) which is completely different from the magician's bootloader, hence we would need a new crafted bootloader (aka ipl/spl) for our magician.

if in doubt, check this FAQ for some concepts and additional explanations: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ

3rd:

To install a wm2005/wm2006 magician's compatible ipl/spl, we would need a ipl/spl with the exact same hardware, which i think, doesn't exist (*). It's not just a question of having the same cpu and the same memory flash module - it would need to have the same UART controller IC,etc,etc...

(We would want to initialize the USB so to have console access, wouldn't we? Plus alot more stuff that i can't think atm).

4th:

So to install a new (or test an existing) ipl/spl on the Magician, we would need JTAG access which we don't have...(**)

Regards,

Keeper

(*) Side note for hersh25: yes, charmer has the same cpu but i think that it doesn't use the same memory chip ...our magician uses what is called a strataflash (it's glue on top of the cpu and communicates to it directely), and most pdas use what is called a DOC (Disk On Chip) - a separate flash IC, soldered on the board and not on top of the CPU as in our magician's. Even if the chamer had a strataflash (which idk), probably that pda flash IC would need to be the same model since the way of accessing the flash ICs changes from model to model (different pinout, different signaling, different asm code), though, it seems that is a good bootloader candidate so to test out on our magicians.

(**) Has a side note, i do have right now a spare (damaged) magician which i will use so to figure out the jtag test pads and which will allow us to, at least, repair a failed ROM flash and also test new bootloaders...i'll make a new thread regarding this JTAG issue, when ready.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mariner_heart:
its easy to say for the people who don't have this much knowledge about the real stuff going inside the device.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] quangduc_ta:
thanks 4 helpful infomation

I'm always check this thread, it's not mean I need WM5-6 for my Magician because I knew that not possible, but I just want to know deeply, why it can not be.

So, many thanks Keeper:cool:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] helterskelter:
Screw WM6 on the Magician. Buy a ****ing Touch you tight bastards! :-D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
Touch is around $400 on eBay! For that kind of money I would seriously consider iPhone instead (its GUI is so pretty, lol).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Vukile:
Last year I was looking for a WM5 ROM for the Jam on this forum.Then I woke up and bought a new handset.Aah, to be young and foolish...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hussein_erol:
i have a dream! :D never say never :o
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
You cannot always live in a dream :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kundan:
hey guys, cant we get rom of HTC touch frm somwhere and flash it to magician???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GCCP:
nop, hardware it's different..

but, maybe we can install touchflo :) who knows :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xdaking:
I can see a new magician Touch Flo ROM is coming very soon with a brand new boot-loader and ipl/spl. i will donate $50 witout asking no questions once the new rom is out.

good luck and happy ending for all the magician owners.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xdaking:
I passed the message to my mate. thanks :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ksp3r:
I wud also pay for the touch flo rom!:D N im sure alot others would pay!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] iRiKi:
rofl so true m8 ^^
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tangwd898:
just wonder how's going with the project?

:)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
What project? The dream? :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] helterskelter:
He gave it up and bought a Touch instead
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] iRiKi:
or a better phone, like the X800 !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
No an E-ten X500 and I never shared your dream! I am a realist:D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] llaguna:
Instead of negleting hiz dreams... u guys should give him strength to continue... it is not impossible.... hard indeed but not impossible.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
First step is finding JTAG pads. If someone sends me a broken Magician, I can at least get past the first step. Doesn't matter if it's been dropped, stepped on, been in water, ran over by a bus... if there is a circuit board still remaining, I can find the JTAG pads. Once a phone is made JTAG capable, it'll be possible to experiment with different bootloaders without fear of irreversibly bricking the device.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Keeper:
GnatGoSplat,

How are you going to figure out the JTAG test pads without the motherboard layout?

Oh well...let me post a private msg that i've given to a person that was asking me the same (i bought a spare magician just for the purpose of figuring out the JTAG):

So, if you know a little bit more about on how to solve this issue, please post or pm me!

Regards,

Keeper :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
If you had a motherboard layout, then you wouldn't need a dead unit at all.

I'm just assuming there is no way to get a motherboard PCB layout or service manual showing JTAG locations.

You would need to pull the CPU, a heat gun would work nicely. Then you could use an ohmmeter to test for continuity between the JTAG pins corresponding to the ones on the CPU to any point on the motherboard with continuity. I would check the test points first. Yes, you can pretty much find any spot with 0-ohm continuity and say that's your TDO for example. If you are on the wrong end of a capacitor, you won't have continuity. If you are on the wrong end of a resistor, diode, etc. it won't be 0-ohms. Sometimes there are 0-ohm jumpers that look like resistors, but you can be on either end of those, it doesn't matter.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] malhaar:
ready to brick magician...

what is the need of jtag spots, i am ready to brick my magician..if some budy makes ipl/spl for magician, and post me for testing.. i will test it on my magician and i willl let every one know...as the main problem is wm5/6 apps, i have succeded to install and use apps..on my magician
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Hi, could you tell how you got wifi? Is it with the help of a SD wifi adapter?

Rest, people used to say it would be impossible to create a WM6 for the Typhoon; yet it was eventually released. I'm not sure though if these can be compared...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ksp3r:
Malhaar how do you install wm5/6 apps on the magician???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] azhar63:
yes pls tell how to install this app

pls explain dear brothers how to update this app ubiquio-401-v1.12.26 thanks in advance
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xmoo:
I recently bought a TyTN II but I still love my Jam.

Oldsk00l is c00l.

N3wsk00l sucks!

:)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hubie53:
Touch Flo on Magician

I installed FunContact from Vito on my (former :D ) MDA Compact I. Scrolling by Fingerttouch works fine there. I think this proves that Touch Flo (or similar conception) is possible on the Magician!!!!! I look forward to many other programs using this technique, and I will surely keep my old Magician, because with the new ROM 2.03 TX it runs so much faster than any other WM5/6 device with that horrible TI OMAP Chips in it!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] shirreer:
Keeper <---- I must protest brother, you ARE silly. I swear to God, man, you're so full of sh!t I could smell your post all the way up in WIKI, sir - its like you're made of it or something!!! WHAT??? ---> ? "flashstrata" ? JTAGs? BIOS (aka "bootloader")?? WHAT??

Brother, "we are they, them, and us", the simpletons who installed and ran Windows 95 on a VHS video tape, the dummies who assembled PCs from scratch to boot BLINDFOLDED for 10 bucks/day then went home and slept only to have nightmares about mutant system hooks...and ravenous, yellow-teethed HALs!! How did you end up here in this HOLY forum, boy?

We needn't read your pretentious feats and pedantic fallacies. People could install & run WM6 on a disposable tablespoon if they can get their hands on the driver. If you're such a lame hack, PLEASE, I beseech you, do NOT waste our time. While deliberating on how you merited my attention, wonder more: how did we make it from windows 95 through to VISTA on the same old raggedy hardware without EVER having to handwrite a partition table (!aka "bootloader"!)? did we test our boards' ICs for radioactivity or wrote code on G Clef after listening to the hexidecimal songs humming from beneath our beds??

GET SERIOUS
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] avi0111:
Hey Malhaar cn u plz tell hw do use wm5/wm6 apps.....................
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Keeper:
Dear shirreer,

I'm no expert, but i do know a couple of things about this subject. Anyway, i thought on writing a full explanation filled with swear words dedicated just to you, but since i'm not willing to reach your own yard of ...... , i'll say this:

read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booting

...and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_system

It's not boy. To you it's Sir.

Driver ?!?! WHAT are you talking about, young man ?

'our time'...uh...you probably meant your own time, right?, since i assume that you're not pretentious neither pedantic nor arrogant, to assume that you have the right to speak for everyone in here.

partition table == bootloader? - you're really lost, young man.

Google is our friend. Go learn and then come back when you have reached it. If you can't, silentely move away to some other forum, like...gardening (*) or something.

I'll rest my case.

Cheers to all :cool:

Keeper

(*) To all gardeners out there: Please don't take offense but you must agree with me - Gardening is way easier then this :p
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Cristian.Ene:
happy happy happy :) excited too!

Is the WM6 done yet? is it out for testing? ... i am happy like a kid with a new toy :)))
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arif388:
hmm..

we are never getting a wm6 for jam isnt it...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] avi0111:
hw do you use wm5/6 apps on magician...plz help
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mariner_heart:
good ol' magician is almost dead now.

but i still love it
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] new_ppc_user:
almost dead? you gotta be kidding me !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] moshinho:
No news about it?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] metalbug:
thanks man!

we need this.:p
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tangwd898:
so how's going with the project?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] excogitation:
http://www.dontfeedthetroll.de/
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] meshuggah:
Another countertrick...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] khaledvic:
pass for wm6 files is PDAVIET

khaledvic
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] GnatGoSplat:
Pass for what WM6 files? I didn't see any WM6 files in your link.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] max_nya:
Just look at the nearest topic -)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tweakradje:
Here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=490948

Cheers
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Broomie:
Title pretty much says it all. I have a Galaxy S6 SM-G920I (International, Australia), and I can't be bothered waiting for Marshmallow, the question is if I upgrade via ODIN to 6.0 (XSP, Singapore International ROM), will I void my warranty in ANY way, so I couldn't take it to a store and ask for a warranty claim, and if I want to, when the Australian version comes around, flash the Australian version, will that affect the warranty as well? :) Thanks in advance!
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] KtuluTheSlayer:
Hi! I have problems with video playback in HD and FullHD. It was working great in stock rom, but in any other rom it doesn't work, except in Nameless rom, although with a little lag while showing the on screen controllers with MX Player.

I recently installed Cyanogenmod 12.1, and the video wasn't working, but I don't know what hapened, that suddenly the video started to play perfectly, without the lag from nameless, and it never happened with any other rom, but after I restarted the phone the video was having the same problem. Any ideas of how to fix it?

Now I can't activate hw acceleration, and I think that was the reason why it was working.
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] Saraf Vikyath:
I am on CM13 and i want to go back to lollipop that is

CM12.1...So is there any process in flashing or can i flash

It normally?? Plz help
[Xiaomi Mi 4i] sharan.nyn:
Yeah flash it normally. No worries. Yeah of course wipe factory reset. Rest is the same :)
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] malifact:
Hello, first of all I've never owned a HTC phone and so I hope nobody minds me posting a speculative question. Based on previous HTC phones, is it likely that Xposed and Gravity Box will work with the HTC 10? The reason I ask is I own some very sensitive earphones and so need the feature in Gravity Box to increase the volume steps to 50? Othewise being restricted to the normal 15 steps is quite punishing for my ears. Thanks.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] NICG:
The HTC 10 unlocked version will support bootloader unlocking so Xsposed will definitely be able to be installed. The HTC 10 sprint version should as well, sprint has never disabled the ability to use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader. Verizon is another story. They block HTC Dev and we don't know if the unlocked version will work on Verizon that is still TBD. It should but i would never leave anything Verizon has a finger in up to chance. Another possibility might be like the Verizon M9 that people were able to unlock using a java card. Only time will tell for verizon but if you have another carrier I would not worry.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] techlogik:
The phone needs to be rooted to install xposed. In addition to the other stuff needed, unlocked bootloader...and highly recommend s-off when that happens. Foolish to not S-Off a phone and start messing with it. Brick city.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] datafoo:
Yes. Xposed is MM compatible.

Haven't heard yet if they'll update Sense Toolbox for 8 (Mikanoshi doesn't think he'll get access to a sense 8 dev device) and mods are a case by case basis for compatibility. Give it time and eventually most of the popular mods will get updated.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] regalpimpin:
xposed would be no problem at all.. You would use the sense toolbox though instead of gravity box. Although now that sense is so stripped down, I suppose some things would also work from gravity box.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] TRLOS:
Hey guys

I've google searched this quite a bit, but I'm having an issue installing xposed to the HTC10.

I go into Recovery (using TWRP) and try to install the XposedFramework .zip file, but I keep getting : Failed to mount "/system"

Any ideas how to fix this and get Xposed installed ?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] k_l_o:
Hi. Have you tried this install?

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3783179&d=1465938666
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] aer0zer0:
yes, works perfect, make sure you get the DVDandroid version xposed installer that you have to use with it. Gravitybox works quite well with the HTC10, xposed settings in playstore is also updated to work, as well as XinternalSD, which will allow programs to write to the internal SD. hope that helps
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] TRLOS:
This also gave me the same error message.

Any other ideas ?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] k_l_o:
Nope, sorry... Had hoped it would work out since I haven't read anyone having problems installing it.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] _-..zKiLLA..-_:
Your installing the xposed installer apk right? Version 3 I believe is the one working with MM
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] emineh17:
Has anyone installed xposed on a rooted verizon htc 10?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Cro Cop:
It should work.

Is it possible to install the new systemless Xposed framework and receive OTA updates ?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] dhinged:
Looking to root my Verizon HTC 10 to disable their stupid "Connected to WiFi" notifications (which perplexingly isn't an option to disable like on some of their other phones), but I'm not clear if this is possible yet... has anyone here successfully gotten it to work? The link in a previous comment is dead. I'm so frustrated with Verizon, soldering FM radios dead wasn't enough?
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] Tarima:
You can only root your verizon 10 by doing s-off first using Sunshine ($25). Might not be able to anymore after the Nougat update comes out.
[HTC 10 Questions & Answers] dhinged:
Maybe the Nougat update will fix all the Verizon HTC 10 crap... now Verizon and HTC are blaming each other for issues I'm bringing up to them.
[General Questions and Answers] tomhurst:
I'm on CM13 on LG G3. I've got apps2sd, and an ext4 2nd Partition on my sd card for linking some apps.

I've created the script, but at reboot it can't mount, because android system automatically mounts it as normal external storage.

I have to unmount it manually, and then mount it manually in apps2sd.

Any way to stop this from happening? Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] tomhurst:
Still looking for an answer to this. I need the system to stop auto mounting at boot
[General Questions and Answers] Chris.cj72:
Did you ever find a solution to stop this?