yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] komser:
... all right, w8 = wait :)

are you one of the developer ?

can you give us more info ... is the development from scratch (i mean using the windows mobile sdk) or there are existing a firmware from a similar smartphone, which need to be modified/adjusted for T8x0 ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Wm6 done

Hi to all,

wm6 boot on fsc t830......wait some days for a beta version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] anythingdust:
wow... how long waits( sorry for my english)

its great,mw6 in to my 810 -is possible!!!! ))
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
maybe that also work on t810.

the time depend when i found a base clean rom good :-)

i think max 1 week......
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] anythingdust:
It will be magnificent. What languages I am planned to be supported? English?

On my device the keyboard Russian where to find a label with English letters... As only Russian letters - it is inconvenient...

With impatience I wait wm6 ))
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] komser:
some days waiting is OK, but give us more details ...

which OS version wm6 or wm6.1, which AKU version, ... ?

My Pocket Loox is a T810, therefore I can test this ROM at a T810 too.

One more topic:

Please provide a ROM without any OEM software like Total Commander, Al Reader, Oxios Memory, ...

Everybody who can install an un-official firmware must to be able install software itself.

Or, you provide a full and a lite version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Hi komser,

wm6 latest version, probabily from hermes device.

Language WWE,no additional software all the people that have time can create our custom rom :-)

At the moment i've only little problem with keyboard but i'm working on it.

Stay tuned....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] powerbyte:
@wm6fsc

@wm6fsc can you give me your toolset for testing on my t830 device ??

mfg Powerbyte
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ASCIIWARRIOR:
what are your first tests results on T830 ?

best regards

asciiwarrior
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
it would be so great if this would work =)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ASCIIWARRIOR:
SORRY BUT READ THE COMPLETE POST !!

wm6fsc has already announced that wm6 boot has done on T830.

great work wm6fsc

best regards yannske
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] simon_rybka:
hello !

Im ready for testing WM6 rom :)

POland is waiting ... :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
I think 1 more week and it's ok.

some problem with drivers, but i'm working on it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mstrack:
Just a (maybe stupid) question:

When you test your own cooked wm6 roms on the t8x0 and the flash fails because of wrong drivers or missing files, are you able to flash another *official* rom?

or is the little gui lost?

looking forward to wm6 :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
yes it's possible.

use the recovery method mentioned in looxflasher and you can upload a new official rom.

I've also tested a wrong uploader partition and reflashed with method like atom briked device.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tea4two:
There is a little tutorial to understand how read, modify and flash a ROM from/to the T830 ?

Are sufficient PART I-V.rar ?

what is looxflasher where I can find it ?

I have no experience with this devices, but I work on embedded systems from several years, so If I can read some documentation I can help too.

Pleas contact me if You think that I can contribute.

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mstrack:
And the Original Rom can be extracted from the last official Update with looxflasher?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
looxflasher = PocketLOOX8xxFlashTool.exe

rom = MDOC.DIO

You can find it in the official update from fsc.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
How to flash T830:

There are a lot of way for flashing the device,the two more common are described by FSC.

One of the way is:

- Download the latest update from fsc site, decompress and install it, put the device in cardle, and start the PocketLOOX8xxFlashTool

After that have only to read and execute the instuction gived by fsc on the screen.

Another one is:

- Download the latest update from fsc site, decompress and install it, put the device in cardle, and start the PocketLOOX8xxFlashTool,

press camera button + power button, keep it pressed and press with stylus the reset button placed in the bottom of battery. The device

go in "recovery mode" as fsc manual say, and the flashtool start to flash the update.

That are 2 way with nothing of "obscure" or "undocumented", and for more information and screenshot about that procedure of flashing

only need to read the manual by FSC support site.

Tips: If you have already flashed the device with the latest official update from fsc and only if you altready do that,

you can edit the file OS.lst with normal editor with a content like that:

+

<DWCE,1.12,2006-12-20,WWE,T830,undefined>

mdoc.dio

<RSTC,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined>

POE.dum

-

in that way when use the PocketLOOX8xxFlashTool you flash only the new xip/os image instead of flashing the wlan firmware,gps firmware,ecc..

But that modification have to be made only if previously flashed the device with the latest update from fsc.

- Another "undocumented" way of flashing the device is tu use the SD Card, but that procedure it's undocumented and can be a little bit dangerous

especially if the battery of device is charged more that 80%.

I don't know why sd flashing it's implemented but undocumented, but my opinion is that except from some real particular case,

you don't need to flash the t830 from sd. The firs two method mentioned are sufficent.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
How to translate T830 ROM:

Actually not a lot of time to write a full tutorial, but some useful info can be found in forum. For examples that link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311078

can help to understand what to do for translate the rom in your languange.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Some useful how to:

XIP and SYS Porting Tutorial

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357249

OEM Building Tutorial

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=345964
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
Sorry for the insisting on this, but do you have any hints about how to extract keyboard drivers from the mdoc.dio?, or is there any register settings that need to be changed beside the dll's mentioned in the other posts?.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
How to change keyboard driver of T830:

For changing the keyboard driver of the device you need to extract that 3 files:

Keybddr.dll

keybdsip.dll

kbdhid.dll

from the original wm5 rom in your languange or except keybddr.dll from any rom that map you language, and replace that files

from oem folder of your kytchen.

You need also to edit that registry key

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]

"Active"="00000409"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client]

"Keyboard Layout"="00000409"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Keyboard Layout\Preload]

@="e0010409"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Keyboard Layout\Preload\1]

@="e0010409"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Qwerty]

"Layout"=dword:00010409

and replace the ACTIVE value (0409) with the value corresponding to your languange.

For understand what value to put instead of 0409 ( english language ) you can take a look on language code here:

Available locales (from MSDN):

0404 CHT Chinese Traditional

0804 CHS Chinese Simplified

0405 CSY Czech

0406 DAN Danish

0413 NLD Dutch

0409 USA English

0407 GER German

0408 ELL Greek

040b FIN Finnish

040c FRA French

040e HUN Hungarian

0410 ITA Italian

0411 JPN Japanese

0412 KOR Korean

0414 NOR Norwegian

0415 PLK Polish

0416 PTB Portuguese Brazil

0816 PTG Portuguese Portugal

0418 ROM Romanian

0419 RUS Russian

041b SKY Slovak

0c0a ESN Spanish

041d SVE Swedish

041f TRK Turkish
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
T830 Kitchen Dev

- Extract content of archive in C:\T830Dev

- Put MDOC.DIO in ROM Directory

- ONLY FIRST TIME YOU START TO CREATE YOUR KITCHEN run first Dumprom.bat and after DumpXIP.bat

- Modify you kitchen as you want

- Build the new rom with CreateROM.bat

Download Here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/102246463/T830Dev.rar.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] simon_rybka:
it doesn't work on beta3 on my t830 -NOW is much worst ! - I have to wait 5-10min to be connected (cold start) :(

-also on beta3 my GPS is much,much slower then on beta2 ,beta

with automapa&tomtom
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pehun:
Nobody for my bluetooth's cab?

:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
I can't find those registry entries in any of the rgu's for the core _z kitchen, should I add them?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Yes you can add it without any problem, if not present.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] guidole:
Hello everybody,

First I'd like to say thank you to everybody who worked on the project, because I first thought the T830 community was dead, or never born...

I've got a small question, on the keyboard when you activate the FN key to enter numbers, is the numpad backlignt becoming blue????

Because when I was trying to get a azerty config on my T830, the keyboard wasn't working anymore, but I had this blue backlight I had never seen before...

I'm using Beta 3 and the phone crashed some times when I was trying to answer a call or to make a call... So I'm using again my "normal" cellphone.

Thanks again...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stillka:
Hi,

I tried your WM6.1 ROM today on my T810. GPS worked well, fixing satellites first time has take about 2 minutes, second time it was maybe 5 seconds, very quick!!! System response was quick, wifi worked OK.

problems found:

- in main Today screen was non working "New SMS" button instead of usual "Phone" button.

- problem with resuming PDA from standby when it was locked.

After pressing red button to bring it up, unlock button not work. Unlock work only with stylus - by taping "unlock" on screen.

After turning it on it goes back to standby mode in approx. a second - I was unable to turn it on pernamently... this is most serious bug I found.

Sorry, but I doesn't have enough time to test it more deeply.

p.s: sorry for my horrible english :-)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lifelion:
In official WM5 version and in beta3, the numpad backlight is becoming blue only for the phone application. This is absolutely normal.

It is too bad it is not like that for other apps.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lifelion:
I may be wrong but I think you are referring to the Widcomm stack? Switching the Microsoft bluetooth stack to Widcomm stack is more difficult than installing a cab. I think it has been successfully done in the past on Dell X10v.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
keyboard dlls

maybe because of a diference in the tools, I noticed that for the tools on your kitchen the directories with the name of the dlls contain some S** files , imageinfo.txt AND the dll file itself, when it creates SYS and OEM directories, while the dumped directories from original ROM contain only the S** files and the imageinfo, no dll file, besides, the published drivers for german and italian don't apparently need to change registry settings, I have been trying to replace the keyboard drivers since this morning but without success, any help would be much appreciated!

thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Hi felipe,

if u dump a rom and no .dll created, it's only because in the dir where you placed the imgfstools is not present recmod.exe. If u place recmod.exe in the same dir of imgfstools, when u dump a rom are created both imageinfo,SXX and .dll.

If u use the kitchen dev from first post you can find that tools in subdir TOOLS.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pehun:
Ok, I didn't realized, sorry for the stupid question

:(

I'll keep my problem..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lifelion:
Comment deleted on Widcomm stack.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ktod:
leds

Hello all,

Thank you for all your efforts. I have put beta3 on my T810 pda. Everything is ok but I have one problem, the left led (taht one who glows blue when you have missing calls or you use gps ) is not working anymore. I don't know, but I think is a useful feature to see that you have missed calls without waking up the pda from standby. Does anyone know how can I solve the problem? ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fmc000:
I just noticed the same thing on my T830 with beta2.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jussi77:
more testing in gps fw

I did some additional testing of N560's gps firmware v3.2.2.. I hexedited COM8 to COM6 in htcgpsupdate.exe and signed the file again with signtool. Now it starts and green led is blinking (informing it's accessing gps port) but it still fails with error #3.

any news on wm6.1 new beta release :) ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] A4E:
hey guys, i need some help

what could mean "i/o error 105" in g'reloc? anybody knows? how to solve?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rob2222:
Jussi:

Have you set the serial port to SIRF mode, f.e. with sirftech, before trying? But I even dont know, if Sirf Mode is the right mode for firmware upgrade, but it is worth a try, maybe.

EDIT: I disassembled the updater and it looks like, error (3) indicates, that it still looks for com8. Could you upload me you latest updater fileset? And maybe PM me your MSN/ICQ/YAHOO address?

Another approach could be so set a virtual com8 that is mapped to com6.

BR Robert
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] A4E:
WM 6 wm6fsc beta 3 RUS (mui) version by A4E

http://rapidshare.com/files/103458159/MDOC.DIO.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jussi77:
@Rob2222

Yup, I tried to set the port to sirf mode with sirftech but it does not help, I also

tried registry editing com port enumeration and successfully managed to change COM6 to COM8 (and COM8 to COM6) but the error 3 still showed up..

here's the fileset I tried to execute (copy to \windows\ directory first). htcgpsupdate.exe is signed with developer test cert.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rob2222:
A4E:

Would you be so nice to describe the steps that are nessecary to make a other-than-english language rom?

BR Robert
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] A4E:
it is said in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311078

U should have the imgfs_tools ver 2.0 rc2 or older

p.s. U should use "square" bin from emu, not others
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zino78:
loox t830 was died

Hi!

I bought a T830. It has a 1.09 english firmware. I want to update the firmware. I download the 1.12 firmware, and i try install it. But it doesnt work :( The phone said "the phone is blue" and emp failed or something. After it, i try to install with usb-download mode other images, but it doesent work too. One of tehm start but others not. After 4-5 firmware update the t830 was died. I cant switch on and i can switch it to usb download mode. Is tehere any possibiliti to repair it at home, or i must bring it to the service.

If i can rapair it at home, please help me :) and if someone have a "blue" compatible wm5 imaga please send me.

Thanks, and sorry my poor english!

Zino78
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rob2222:
Jussi:

I get a little forward. The thing about packting the updater is, that we first need to check, if the flash chip for the gps firmware in the n560 and t830 is the same. It would be good if we find any pictures of both disassembled phones or infos about the flash chips.

If you download Sirfflash package you can see which flash ships are often used.

If we could manage to connect real-COM6 from T830 to a PC, we could use Sirfflash to backup our 3.1.1 firmware.

Here a guy wants to do the same:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=106847

With GPS2Blue

http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html

You can map the T830 GPS port to a virtual pc port. This works well in NMEA and Sirfmode and you can use SirfDemo with that.

But when you put the sirf chip in boot mode to read/write the firmware flash the program crashes. :(

I think the problem is that G2B only map GPS data, not ALL data.

So a tool that maps all data between the ports would be nice.

Some infos I've found:

Infos about flash procedure:

http://www.koders.com/c/fidD3E36DEED016E9504CDF162DAF53BBA0355E5CA5.aspx

SirfFlash and SirfDemo:

http://www.falcom.de/support/software-tools/sirf/

Sirf protocol documentation:

http://www.falcom.de/support/documentation/sirf/

BR Robert
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jussi77:
@Rob2222

Yes - I found also those flash-ID's from htcgpsupdate.exe... but I thought I could monitor COM6 traffic with some utility to see what kind of protocol is being used, ie.

<request> $PSRF....... ( to get flash info)

<response> something_not_expected (flash info)

<operation> compare to in-memory strings, if not found, terminate with #3

I was figuring that if I can read that "something_not_expected" I could replace some

flash-ID strings in htcgpsupdate and it *could* work (it could also corrupt flash :)

I have no problem opening t830 if I must but it would be nicer if flash could be backed-up and then restored if everything goes *borked*
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rob2222:
@Jussi:

If you want to experiment a bit ...

You can map the real-Com6 to a virtual PC com port with the trial version of Franson GPS Gate. With GPS Gate you can transfer the data then via TCP, Activesync or Bluetooth. All 3 work.

And you can bring the sirf3 to boot mode with Sirfdemo: ACTION=>TRANSMIT SERIAL MESSAGE=>Type "94" (without "") in the field, select SIRF BINARY => SEND. After that the communication ist lost, what should be maybe OK, cause the Sirf3 waits for a bootloader. Now it "should" be possible to read out the flash with Sirfflash. You can see the whole communication when you monitor the ports with "PortMon" from Sysinternals/Microsoft.

The problem is, sirfflash doesnt want to run. When trying to read flash it says "bla bla was unable to put chip in flash mode" and when I'm putting the chip in flash mode and trying sirfflash then, im getting a timeout.

ATM I think it's maybe cause a com-port speed change. Maybe it works with the correct speed setting at the sirf-chip com port and GPSGATE input tab at T830. But I dont know the correct speed and flow control mode between sirf<==>gpsgate_at_T830 for the flash mode. The lack of documentation is really bad.

Even it could be, that com6 is connected with sirf-portb, which is the wrong port to receive the bootloader. See:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10934&whichpage=2

It would be easy to test, if we set portb to another baud rate and try if we can still comminucate with the sirf. But I dont know if this is a permanent change...

BR Robert
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Hi zino78,

i've never seen that message and i don't know what is, but i'm sure you can recover the device via the jtag interface, but you need some development and some electronic skill to "create" the jtag interface.

The device have a section for jtag/debug purpose, but you need to find what pin to use.

Probabily something similar to Atom jtag interface, but never tryed.

The only thing i'm sure is that the device have some functionality for jtag interface.

But if the warranty it's active on your device, send it to repair center.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wm6fsc:
Hi A4E,

i'm not sure, but i've received that message when i've used g'reloc on a hd with problem.

But i'm not sure it's the same for you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] A4E:
Yes, it's probably the same. for example I've relocated the modules of my rus build successfully only on other computer
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zino78:
Hi wm6fsc!

Thanks for your answer. It has 24 months garrantee. I think i send it back to the service.

best regards,

Zino78
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cfphoenix:
Have got a new loox t830 (red EMP :)) for £80 delivered on Egay here 160221057689

Thanks to all contributors, and especially wm6fsc for the excellent WM6 Beta 3 which works well.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cBorisa:
Bug report

I'm using wm6 betas and discovered the following bug(s):

I can't use T830 as gprs modem. Neither USB nor bluetooth internet sharing works with it. So i can't use DUN or Network access from the device
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] komser:
I installed yesterday the latest WM6 (Beta3) on my T810.

WM6 is working, but I'm not able to use my SDHC card (8GB).

Under WM5 is was using the SDHC with only 4GB with the SDHC.cab patch.

As far as i know:

The WM6 is including the SDHC driver ?

Or should I install a SDHC patch ? If yes, which one ?

Thanks,

komser
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pt_t830:
Have a look at page #17 of this thread...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bside73:
I installed yesterday the latest WM6 (Beta3) on my T830

And the phone contant dosen't work.

Any suggestion ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
SDHC driver

Hi, I am trying to integrate SDHC.777.cab for SDHC in my cooked ROM, as I have installed the CAB and works perfectly with a SDHC Transcend 8GB, I read the excelent ROM cooking thread in this forum setup by Noonski and I extracted dlls SDMEMORY.DLL and SDBUS.DLL, however, in the kitchen those files are accompanied of .S00, S01... imageinfo.txt and imageinfo.bin files, should I just replace the dll's with the newer ones or is there some way to generate these additional files?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
SDHC support

Make sure to get SDHC.777.CAB as I have tried to install other drivers appearing on the thread and they only allowed me to see 4gb of my 8 gb SDHC card!.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ktod:
Any new beta? :p
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jussi77:
any news @CoreZ,Powerbyte or wm6fsc.. ?

...about next beta (wm6.1+netcf 3.5..?)

I surely tried gps fw 3.2.2 hacking (I might have been able to push firmware into t830 gps but I stopped since there could be bricking ahead - I changed htcgpsupdate.exe to use COM6 and modified flash-id string to match t830 but I have not yet tried to upload new flash since I have no idea about motorola S-codes used for flashing; I've understood that there's a portion for flash upload program and portion for flash itself, but I must stude some more details before I give it a go...)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Felipe Rodriguez:
SDHC

Got it, using reversmode I have integrated SDHC support into the ROM substituting sdbus.dll and sdmemory.dll, it works perfectly with any SD/SDHC card!