yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Good to see it gets some attention now. Mine is also from Viatman. Seems like it has been nailed down to one point finally. If there wont be a fix soon Ill go to the samsung center and see if it is possible to get a korean replacement phone.

Thanks for sharing.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] giony:
A friend of mine bought recently an s7,and his front camera has good focus on the subject . Also his display is way better, not pinkish like mine. The same software version, June upgrade installed. So, our camera are faulty, I'm 100%
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Could you ask him to get this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=de

(or any other app that tells you the manufacturing country)

and tell you about the manufacturing country ? It seems like phones produced in Vietnam got this problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kezzerxir:
I just bought my S7 (G930A - Black) 6 days ago, unfortunately mine has the infinity focus issue on the FFC as well. My box does say made in Korea

Build date: 5-24-2016

HW rev: REV.06

FW FFC: I05QLIA00PM

I think I'm going to take it back to the store and see if I can exchange it. Any know when they bring a new one out if I'm committed to it or can I bail out if its bad too?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] giony:
This is the info for a phone without focus issue on FC.

Mine is manufactured In 11 March
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Can you share sample pictures of your front facing camera pls? If its ok, try and take a shot thats just a feet away from a face... thanks much
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kezzerxir:
I have to yet see a photo of a clear face from a non-edge S7.

Today I went back to the AT&T store and checked out their floor models. Both of the S7 edges were very sharp as expected and both normal S7s (one black one gold) were noticeably blurry, though not as bad mine. I used my one exchange and got a new normal S7 that was better, which I can live with, but not perfect. I could have exchanged for a S7 Edge but I dislike the curved screen more than blurry selfies. At this point I would have to send my phone into Samsung for service if I wanted to push it further. Without Samsung officially recognizing the issue I have little faith in the service successfully fixing the FFC focus. I don't know why this is not getting more attention, it seems to be a fairly widespread issue. AT&T started a promo where you get a $100 GC for upgrading to a S7 (started 6 days after I got my S7, typical), so maybe they are trying to flush stock. I really liked Samsung, very disappointing they are not acknowledging this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
I find it interesting that several people claim to have S7 phones without the blurry FFC, but don't seem to follow that up with sample pics.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gsmyth:
Is it blurry or is it Samsungs processing/beautify thing though that smooths out the face making it more muddy?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
Even 3rd party apps do it - and disabling Beautify doesn't help
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Its not blurry in terms of smooth, it is simply out of focus. The background is sharp, the Model in front isnt.

Edit: A friend of mine just got a white s7. The Focus point is set correctly on his device ! The object in front is perfectly sharp :/ mby gonna visit a samsung center with him and show them the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
White s7 flat or edge? Can you post some photos?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkmanlv:
G930FD Black Onyx (bought on ebay from UK), received it yesterday

Vietnam, RF 20160422, HW MP 0.700, Front Camera FW: I05LLIA00PM, S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

all fine for me :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
This, my friends, seems correctly focused. Could you give me the link you used for buying in pm?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtrustkillx:
Seem that RF20160422 are fixed ive played with one g935 today no focus issues.. so seems that us early adopters are ****ed by samsung..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gsmyth:
Just taking another look at MKB's S7 camera review, he shows the FFC and uses the gesture capture feature (link below). It looks like the camera actually focuses in relation to his movement, although not sure if this is the anti distortion feature? Just tried with mine and the same 'focus' movement on screen doesnt happen, I have 'fixed focus, infinity' in the camera details. My FFC photos are also pretty blurry, although doesnt bother me as I much prefer taking proper photos with the rear cam. Out of interest I looked through my google photos and compared with pics taken with my Oneplus One on the FFC and its almost hard to tell if they where from the front or rear cam as theyre well focused and pretty crisp. The photos MKB shows from the S7 FFC also appear to be focused and sharp, granted he is outdoors on a sunny day but there dont appear to be any issues at all.

Hoping this can be resolved in a software update or at least Samsung admit there is an issue and exchange faulty units.

https://youtu.be/1sgeM6DsV40?t=344

Further phone details:

Exynos model - UK - Black

Hardware rev - MP 0.700

Camera:

Rear SLSI_S5K2L1_FIMC_IS

Front SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

Manufacturing date: 2016.03.23 (Vietnam)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mj084:
Hello,

what do you mean with "RF20160422"? New hardware charge, or something else?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtrustkillx:
Yes batch from late april. I still dont know if i should rma this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
my S7 was produced on may 27. and got the front cam focus issue... so no fix here I guess :(

edit: I just saw you were using the edge version. I have to say I also tested several edges and none ever had this front cam problem...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtrustkillx:
I was trying seweral flat and edge versions all of them had ff issue.. except the late april batch one
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
but shouldnt my s7 , built on may 27., be fixed then ? Where do I find this number "RF20160422" ?

I know this theory sounds wierd but did the phones you tried have different colors ? I still think its a black s7 flat problem. Tried 2 white ones without any problem... tried about 10 black ones and all were messed up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Has anybody been able to go into a walk in and fix it?

Considering S7 but this is off putting.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
I got this phone from hong kong but I live in the Philippines. Do you guys think samsung service ceners can fix this? I can pay some amount if needed... thanks.

Also, how do they fix it? Is it just a software fix? If so, i think the community can find a way to fix it too yes?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wackjee:
I have this issue with the s7 edge I bought yesterday. Thanks to my s6, I can definitely see that the s7 ffc is blurrier (in low light condition, even more blurrier) even though there are the same camera... (it's really subtle, but it's there).

Model on s7 edge: SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

Focal length on s7 edge: 2.1mm

Focus modes on s7 edge: fixed, infinity

Model on s6 edge: SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

Focal length on s6 edge: 2.2mm

Focus modes on s6 edge: fixed, infinity

Only the focal length changed between the two.

Mine was built may 16.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
And this is again unacceptable
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mtydusk:
I still can't belive how they could put such a bad front camera on a 700 euro phone.

Doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm not buying the phone because of this. I hope that at least on S8 they use proper top hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dpk1:
I sent my S7 (930FD) black for repairs for display non uniformity and touch issues. They gave me my S7 back yesterday with the display replaced. All is well regarding display uniformity and touch now :D! Incidentally I found that the front camera is tack sharp now (as good as S6, if not better, that I compared it with) :laugh:!

So, I think the ffc blur issue can be fixed by Samsung service. It seems the ffc module is a part of the display along with home and capacitive keys and digitizer. All the camera info remains the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Can you post old and new pics if you dont mind please? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dpk1:
Yeah, I don't take much selfies. Anyhow, I only have a few of them two of which are attached below. I've only cropped them both (using MS paint). You can guess which is which :D!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
Those pictures are not the best to compare the camera, as one is taken in the sun and one in the shade, also you should use the same background... :p Anyway, judging from the look of the lines on your sweater I would guess that the one on the left is the older one with the defect camera?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Yeah, if its not too much to ask... can you try to at least get the same lighting for the new shot? Based on this, it seems like the one under bright conditions are with the old camera as its not too far off from the one with the dimmer lighting...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dpk1:
True.. not good comparison but the pics are good enough to illustrate my point. Actually I would've taken the pic with same background and sun only if it were not drizzling here all day with overcast sky (at the time i reach home from work)!

Yes, you're correct. The first is blurred one (though not as bad many have reported here). The second should've been blurrier, given the lack of sunny condition, but it came out sharper anyhow! Cheers :).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lethalfriend:
I have also compared the front cam of my flat s7 with s6 and it's definitely inferior :(

This is totally unacceptable. Samsung should fix it via software update if possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Do you guys know of any camera application that has a sharpening feature? I find that after sharpening the picture in snapseed, it helps make the quality better...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wackjee:
I noticed this too. It makes me wonder if there's a post-sharpening effect in the s6 that there's not in the s7...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lethalfriend:
Difference is very obvious even in view finder so this must be something else.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
I think its actually softening after a shot has been taken. Picture in viewfinder before taking a shot is better than after taking it...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Here are some edits. I just applied 100 sharpening and 10 structure in snapseed and the results are way better.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrDusan:
I'm also having this issue, and I can confirm that it isn't post processing, pics are blurred in viewfinder too.

My phone is also from Vietnam

Here are some examples. From viewfinder and saved.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Youre correct. Viewfinder is also blurry but not as blurry after taking the shot.

Ive gotten used to not using my selfie cam anymore. Of if ever, I try to make it a habit to apply sharpness and some structure in snapseed as what Ive posted above.

It somehow brings up the quality for a tad bit.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrDusan:
Not using the camera is not an option for a phone this expensive. Did anyone contact samsung about this issue?

I hoped that they will stop making mistakes like this by now...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
True. I believe a lot of people already tried contacting samsung but to no avail.

I tried some phones yesterday in the samsung store and found that a lot of the phones too (non edge and edge variants) suffer from this blur issue.

It has different extents but yeah... so much for what they call "perfect android phone"
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DionysusDreams:
Dropping by to say I'm having the same issue and it's very frustrating.

S7 Edge (Gold Platinum)/G935F

FW Ver: I05LLIA00PM

HW Rev: MP 0.801

RF Cal: 20160523

Build date/Location: 2016.05.23/Vietnam
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtrustkillx:
i have tried lg camera from play store and there is day and night difference for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] fjsferreira:
Don't notice any difference ?

Sent from my Galaxy S7
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrDusan:
I've seen a few people on instagram with galaxy s7 (i'm such a creep ?), and their pics look great even when taken close to the camera.

So, I was wondering if someone without this issue could post their front camera FW.

Can front camera FW be updated manually?

We need to know somehow if this is software or hardware issue!

Or vietnam/korea model difference
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ephio:
Blurred on the subject, focused at infinity.

Model: SM-G930F

Cam FW version: I05LLIA00CM

RF Cal: 20160319

Can't find Build Location.

Here are some samples, shoot all at approx 15 centimeters from the subject:

imgur.com/a/3n1Y g

(remove the last space before the "g" to see photos)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Page not found
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mj084:
page found, remove last space before the g - already written there!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ephio:
I don't know what's the problem, i can still view my post on imgur, even when logged out.

Anyway, I re-uploaded the images, you can go to here: "imgur.com/a/7fPCo"

removing the quotes in the web address and you may see the photos
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Thanks. I see it now. It definitely has a weird blur. Just like mine and a lot of people in this thread.

Weird thing is when i try the sample s7 in samsung stores the pictures produced by the ffc is sharper than what we see here. Kind of makes me sick that im stuck on this issue. Heres a sample of what i have on my phone and what was taken from the display s7. I think i might have forgotten to turn off the sliders on the display s7 but even still, youd still see the difference in focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] yoni842:
The first one is the store's phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Looks like the photo on the left has 'Beauty face' filter enabled
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
We actually have an official response from a Samsung representative called SamsungJuan on 07-27-2016 to the 'Galaxy S7 front facing camera not focusing' issue at the official Samsung forum at this link: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S-Phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Front-facing-Camera-Does-NOT-Focus/td-p/284/page/9

" Re: Samsung Galaxy S7 Front-facing Camera Does NOT Focus

Hi, everyone and thank you for joining our Samsung Community. The front facing camera was designed not to focus. For a front focusing feature it is recommended to download a third party application. As always please read all reviews and comments before purchasing or downloading any third party applications. "

Really helpful folks at Samsung support aren't they? :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Well that's a load of rubbish, my front facing camera focusses just fine, and I can see it focussing if I quickly move away and back into view
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
No i made sure all settings are the same. But the first shot is from the samsung store model.

Anyhow... im over this. I rarely use the frontcam now. The response from that samsung rep is a load of bull.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] NonXtreme:
Front camera don't have auto focus.

What you saw was shape correction not focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Don't have shape correct enabled

I watched it focus, picture moved in and out
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
That yellow circle in FFC is called face detection. :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] NonXtreme:
I know that.

But that wasn't what I meant.

What I meant was the picture moving in and out effect on front camera which look like camera focusing but it's not. I only have that effect when shape correction is on and camera detected my face.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] fjsferreira:
You'll have to give more info on your phone, bc I'm pretty sure ffc has no focus abilities whatsoever.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] NonXtreme:
Yup, me too. I'm pretty sure ffc has no focus abilities.

So reread my post carefully. I did tell it's not focus. [emoji28]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lefty83:
[IMG="camera"]https://s21.postimg.org/j8uctohqf/Screenshot_20160914_085343.png[/IMG]

My camera is with all addons disabled blurry and in comparison to my nexus 6p a joke, bought phone in UK two days ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
That's sad. Return it within 1 week and you will probably get you money back. What colour is your phone? Could you please Install Phone info and check where it's made and when?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lefty83:
Yes I'm contemplating to give it back but somehow have hope it will get fixed with software update
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
Software won't fix this problem!

Don't do the same mistake as I did, return it immediately. But please check the above information before and I can tell you if you have got the same phone as I got. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vanisz:
I have done some research and resoults bellow:

I05LLIA00PM I05LLIA00PM - with this pictures seems to be sharpest

I05LLIA00MM - totally blurry

B05LLHA01CM - blurry.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
Could you please post pictures to prove your research? :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Daremtz:
Late December on nougat beta and no software fix

I've been researching this topic for a while and I'm even running the nougat beta and no software fix was applied. Really messed up for Samsung to pull this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mj084:
There will be no software fix for this hardware problem!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
They need to sell the autofocus feature of next S8 front camera. How would they do that? Simply avoiding any software improvement on the out-of-focus s7 front camera
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
How come I don't see any such issues?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
I don't either, probably different sensors, some have Sony, some have ISOCELL
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
Post your front camera photo samples with you at ~40cm and a background at around 2m~infinite
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
First of all, Thank you for helping, posting your photo!

Look at the detail of your hair or beard and look at that bicycle you have behind you. The bicycle is in focus, you are not however not by a huge margin (getting farther is helping since the focus is set to infinite)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
I think you're trying to force something that isn't there, he is in focus, as much as the bike is in focus
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
You'll be one of the people screaming "WOoOW!" when you will see the "magic" detail that S8 autofocus front camera will bring on.

Good luck setting a reflex lens in manual focus, eagle eye xD
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrDusan:
Actually, he isn't trying anything. S7 does indeed have focus issues compared to S6. I use my front camera very often, so I can say without any doubt that on every selfie I take my face is out of focus compared to objects behind me. But I got used to it... What else can I do, at least the camera is MUCH better than on my old S5.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalquatl:
Just tried myself. Not a big fan of selfies, however, after I saw the info on internet I've checked mine. It is such a bull**** the front camera focus. Clearly back focusing. Of course all skin tone and other settings are zero. Ok, not talking about quality difference between the FC and BC, just about the focus. I'm disappointed...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalquatl:
Just to be sure there is no face recognition effects.

Hand is unfocused at 30 and 50 cm away. Look at the wall power plugs.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathan-H:
I bought mine two days ago from Tesco UK, Non gimmick edge model (flat)

CAM FW I05LLIA00MM LOAD FW I05LLIA00MM Phone FW N

Selfie is practically identical to the S6 I just tested against. Focus is fine/.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tukasz:
Just bought S7 Edge after Note 4. Front camera is very blurry comparing to my old Note 4.

Front camera

Cam FW Ver: I05LLIA00PM

HW Rev: MP 0.801 is blurry
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] fancccc:
front camera from this phone is the worst among top models. period
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
No, not period. If you read the posts here you will see two conflicting reviews, some saying it is fine, some saying it is blurry

Obviously something is different between the phones, different camera modules / lenses / firmware most likely
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gotenk1:
I just tested my S7 and can't say it is the sharpest or not...how can this still be a problem so late into production and S8 is few months away from release?

SM-G930W8(Canada)

CAM FW I05LLIA00PM

Phone FW Ver: N

RF Cal: 20161025

HW Rev: REV0.2

Made in Vietnam

AIDA64: S5K4E6
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gerhard_wa:
Error
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bustyouup4free:
sorry for spamming pics, was attempting to make a nice pic show up instead of the OPs pic lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oscar73:
Does this problem has been fixed? no one talks about it lately...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] supercakefish:
Mine is pretty blurry;

Camera module: SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

RF Cal: 20160213

HW Revision: MP 0.700

Manufacture date: 13.02.2016 (Vietnam)

The rear cam selfie mode (on the Galaxy App Store) is a pretty useful alternative. It uses the rear camera to take far better pictures by automatically detecting faces.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
I hate to be right
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] shah22:
Sorry guys for again posting in a dead thread , but i am experiencing this too , i bought it in pakistan, it is updated to latest july 2017 patch btw, and here are the specs :

Manufactured in : Vietnam

Model : Silver S7 Edge (G935FD)

Front cam firmware : I05LLIA00PM

Rf cal : 20170123

Hw rev : MP 0.801

Camera id : SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS

Focus modes(according to aida64) : fixed, infinity

I must say that when i bought the phone , it was on marshmallow 6.0.1 firmware and both the cameras were superb. But as soon as i upgraded it to 7.0 nougat , front camera takes much unfocused selfies, so it must be a software fault ? and i doubt after the launch of S8 that samsung will fix this issue and i should go to service center for a replacement if thats hardware fault [MENTION=2373535]sprog123[/MENTION]