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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gtkansan:
inserting Shortcut

How can i insert a shortcut into the windows directory? I only seem to have the option to insert a new folder.

I have the tilt ROM and am just trying to be able to tether while on the road. I was hoping to just follow the earlier advice and open up the comm manager to allow internet sharing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Oh! so good you guys!! :D :D :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Do it from the PC. look for the 'Mobile Device' under 'My Compter' when connected via Activesync and use that to right click any app 'copy' and where ever you want you can right click again and paste a shortcut! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gtkansan:
Fixed Her

I got the shortcut setup in my phone's menu. But now I am having trouble with the bluetooth connection through my computer. I get a connection established by the internet sharing program, (similar to when I am using activesync) but nothing happens when I try to use my web browser on the laptop. Can you step me through anything I am missing? I dont know what to check to see whats wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eXilius333:
I'm also tethering.

After reading this post, which I didn't notice on XDA developers. I've also been tethering (under 700mb first month) and about 300-400mb the last month. Nothing has happened so far. I was worried at first, when my friend who works for Geek Squad claimed that his friend who played WOW for 2 weeks using his phone got charged 5k. Well, that could be a lot of data right there, but he claimed they have a 100 MB limit, now after careful thought and just monitoring Google Maps and Opera usage, i realized that's ridiculous, since you can even stream videos from YouTube and AT&T's media place (the free ones). Thus, it's easy to reach my mb usage, and therefore exceed the 100mb limit that i dont think even exists.

Anyways, I'm using ICS, with Bluetooth (on desktop).

I was wondering if they could tell that you were downloading things that you would never use on your phone, such as Windows Update (lol), which i accidently had onm and updated 50 mb... well I will see what happens, I wonder how they could monitor such a large network, unless it's via those who only have data plans, or programs, or..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mdlee:
Tethering Nightmare!

I've been trying to use my new tilt that I bought today as a modem for my laptop with no success. I've read this thread multiple times and still can't get it to work. Here's where I'm at:

I've used the stock file explorer to locate the internet sharing program. The status on my phone shows as connected. I open my network connections to view the 3g connection.

I'm getting an error 692 -- Hardware failure in device.

I think that I need to configure the properties on my 3g network connection. Would someone please shed some light on my issues if possible.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fizzie:
Some clarification would be nice before I call and get some bozo on the phone at AT&T who's apt to give me a hard time and then flag my account...like an IRS audit !

So when the rep ask which model lg phone I say what?

When the rep asks " what $20 unlimited plan I am referring to " I say what? Mind your own business just give me the plan !

Somehow I just don't think they are going to say .."yes sir ! right away! "

I'd like to save the $20 bucks/month and stick it to these companies who don't even buy me dinner before doing me every month. So if you have more info I'm all eyes !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] COF23:
all you have to say is you want to add media max 200 ( $19.99 ). the reps never ask which phone your using. if they do ask tell them you have the LG Shine. motorola v9, v3xx or any regular phone that att carriers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pmow:
You can add whatever data plan you want on the extranet site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jbmorales:
Crap! This whole time I could've been paying for the media net. I've tried twice to downgrade my data package and was unsuccessful at this. I never thought to tell them I had a basic flip phone! I will be calling them today and reducing my bill!

Thanks for all this info!

jb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jbmorales:
****update****

I called ATT and told them I needed to downgrade my data plan. The first thing he asked me was if I had the Tilt. I said I did but it was broken at the moment right now so I'm using my old Razr until I get my Tilt fixed. After looking at all the data plan options I ended up getting the media max with 1500 messages for 29.99. I saved myself 20 bucks coming from the pda max with unlimited messaging which was 49.99.

jb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cincy1020:
Hi:

I currently only have wap.cingular settings on my phone.

Do I need to use isp instead? If so, does anyone have the correct setting please?

Also, I have a disable proxy cab, do I need to use this?

Sorry for the dummy questions, I have been reading on thethering quite a bit, but not found the answers to my questions.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RCanine:
A little bit of insight on why tethering is an issue. I bought a Tilt today and the Rep was pretty bad about describing the situation, but kept flashing things like people getting $8000 phone bills and even trying to sue AT&T and losing. What it comes down to, I guess, is this:

As the largest company in the industry, the FCC has some funky rules regulating AT&T. Basically when they rack up obscene amounts of data traffic, the FCC fines them. They've targeted tethering specifically because numbnuts like those mentioned above will do things like play WoW over their cellular line, use up obscene amounts of data. Apparently heavy teathering is fairly easy to track because desktop OSes aren't nearly a conservative with their data usage. When this gets too widespread the FCC fines AT&T, who then passes the pain onto their customers.

So... it sucks, but I see their point. That said, I couldn't get a very good answer from the Rep about exactly what was allowed and what wasn't—he was warning me that TomTom 6 for WM (which I paid for, tyvm) might get me in trouble, and that I should double-check.

The one thing to note is that if AT&T catches you, they reserve the right to change your cell phone plan without notifying you. So...fair warning.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cincy1020:
Why would Tom Tom not be allowed? It doesn't use internet access does it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jameybaxter:
Also, you can't sue AT&T over the contract. In signing their contract you are limited to binding arbitration for any events occurring inside of contract period or due to your contract...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] udgn:
Ok, please to the Point....

1. How can they know if you are connected to the internet????

a. Because you are using Internet Sharing...... or......

b. Because you are using Dial Up Method.

c. Because you are consuming alot of Megabytes.

**** Please some one that really know about this, answer to this, dont guess about it ***
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] udgn:
I found this in AT&T Forum....

I'm not shure if it is true but this is what I found.......

"""""""""""""I tried but won't use the WM feature for the following reasons:

1. Uses your voice minutes

2. 56K is the best you'll get

3. Only works on the laptop on which you install the driver

4. Only driver provided is for Vista

Instead, I will use Internet Sharing because of the above, plus the following:

1. Internet Sharing app uses your data plan (presumably unlimited data plan)

2. Internet Sharing speeds approx 900K (according to Speakeasy)

3. Internet Sharing will work on any laptop""""""""""""""""""""
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cproaudio:
For the true dial up method, you would require CSD feature added to your account to do data calls. I had it with AT&T 4 years ago. They used to charge $4.99/mo and use the minutes on your plan. I used a Nokia 8290 as a dial up modem through its IrDA port. I only use it during nights and weekends as those minutes were free. The connection speed back then was 14.4kbps. Not sure if that's the ATT's speed limit or the phone's limit. You would also require to have a dial up ISP account such as NetZero, PeoplePC or AOL. I used to use my company's earthlink account. To set it up, you would need to install the phone's modem driver, setup windows dial up networking or your ISP's software. I'm not sure if AT&T still has CSD feature.

As for internet sharing option, my laptop couldnt recongize my phone til I installed activesync. After I installed activesync, I plug in my phone. Activesync connects. I run the internet sharing program on my phone and hit connect. Activesync disconnects and network connection pops up and I'm connected. The fastest I got was 1480kbps. Most of the time I get about 900-1200kbps.

When I tether, I only goto none data intensive websites like forums, checking emails, or news sites, no youtube or other streaming sites and no downloading unless I had to download some software for my phone. All my tethering sessions are far less than my CV, mobitv and Orb sessions. One time I accidently left Orb on overnight and it ate over 300mb of data. I didnt get charged. I'll never do that again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] udgn:
Thanks very good to know those points.

But what I really want to know is, if using DIALUP try to connect to the phone so it can usses the phone's internet connection or if it is trying to connect thru the PHONE to the internet.

I'm a 90 something % sure that, INTERNET SHARING connects to the phone, not THRU the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
Why would TomTom get you into trouble?! It's not using any data except the maps YOU put in yourself! Telenav downloads mapos, and I've run Telenav for days and NEVER saw anything different in my bill. I'm lost on why TomTom could even be the slightest way bad. :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cincy1020:
LOL, excellent question. I asked the same thing earlier in the thread, but no one ever bothered to answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
It makes NOOOOO sense. I think the guy is confused. tomTom draws its maps from the memory card and doesn't download data maps like Televan or Google Maps et al. lol :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Macgyvec3:
Used ICS repeatedly

I use the ICS to stream tv constanly via ORB on both my TILT and my laptop and I've never had a problem. Sometimes 8 hours a day for the past two months. I've also asked the reps at AT&T more than once if there was any way I could tether my laptop without the software provided by AT&T and they told me absolutely not, no way in hell. I'm sure I am well above 2-3 GB a month. My bill stays the same. It's the dumbest thing in the world that AT&T would try to charge for "Tethering."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] udgn:
I'm sure they will not charge you.

Unless of course you play an online game in your computer that obviously you can't install or play in your PPC, they do not know you are connected thru your Cellphone ( if you use internet sharing no dial up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moderateinny:
I cannot get ICS to work with my Tilt (using one of Alex's ROMs). It attempts to connect but immediately terminates and says something about the connection "wap.cingular has disconnected..." the dial-up connection. Or something like that....

I have the $20 unlimited Medianet plan and otherwise have no problems connecting to the net and generally get over 800kbps with HSPDA.

Any thoughts on how to get this working would be appreciated. I'd love to have ICS as a backup for crappy airport or hotel shot spots or even at home when/if I have a power outage and my Fios is down.

Thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
You are right, most people on these forums do most, or all of the above. The fine print is for those who abuse the service and the network, causing them problems. Then they have a legal basis to either ammend the bill, service plan, features, or to cancel the service outright.

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
You may need to adjust your Local Area Connection Settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pyraxiate:
Some of the features such as Traffic Reporting , and Map updating for restaurants / telephone numbers DOES use the phones internet connection :)

Just so you know.

Cheers !

PS- I have the older Cingular PDAUNL ALL4 internet plan for PDS's and i reach over the 2gb mark monthly. Its never a question. They keep trying to get me onto one of their new plans though because i think this plan was originally made for tethering , now they charge 65 for the att version whereas this one is only 49.99 Including like 1500 texts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NiteStalker:
I have a PDA Unlimited Plan with unlimited text and msm, cost 50.00, (41 with military discount). I used 5GB of data the first month, no problems on the bill.

I don't have the need to tether so not an issue there, did "Sling" alot though (watched the super bowl), I doubt that would be an issue seeing how they include "Mobi TV" installed on the Tilt I doubt they would enforce the web brodcasting portion, if they haven't changed it, and if it wasn't allowed why would the include a progam for it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] controlmachete:
I just bought a tilt two months ago...I had the pda plan and it will not connect. I live in Texas by the way. I got the pda max (teethering plan) with unlimited txt and im happy to know I can sleep well at night. I use to have a startrek before and I used it as a modem with the regular dataplan and I got a 3k bill. I got it refounded miraculously since I had requested I wanted unlimited data on my phone and also when 60 theetering with it. I strongly recommend that if you want to user your tilt for theetering.....get the pda max plan. Its better to pay 60 dollars a month...then get slapped with a 2k plus bill and have to fight back for the money.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
I'm currently on the now discontinued $19.99 Smartphone Connect Unlimited plan, and have no problems, and I used to teather all the time with my Motorola V551 and V3 on the $19.99 Media Net Unlimited plan. I see your point though, $60 to not have to worry about it. At this point I've been a customer of theirs since before they were even Cingular, and I spend well over $100/mo on my wireless service. I never have any problems with Customer Service, they usually give me what I want.

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sincloge:
well here's my thoughts on this

You know cellular video cingular video whatever the heck they call it now streams about 5mb for a 5 min video and you can get as much with mobi tv just from personal experience i used 45 gb of streaming mobi tv for about 30 days straight roaming around us company put up in some hellish places anyway point is this if they confront you about usage make sure you got a viable option im not saying go out there and lpay wow 24 -7 but technically they cant tell what you are streaming or not with cv or mobitv etc....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chedlin:
High baseline usage makes me nervous about tethering

I have two Tilts on my account. I use about 200MB / month on mine, but I use WiFi a lot.

The user on the other Tilt is using 1.5-2GB a month. We can't figure out how. Much of the usage seems to be between 1 and 3 am.

Any ideas? We would like to bring the baseline usage down to leave a cushion for occasional tethering.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robosiris:
I have a kaiser, with the pda personal bundle (50/month). So what a few here are saying is that I can save myself money by getting the Media Net Max and tell customer service I have a moto v9?!?!?

EDIT: I just attempted to change my data plan from pda personal to medianet unlimited. They asked what phone will I be using the medianet on, I told them a motorola razor. Then they asked for the imei number, lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
at least if you want to get out of your contract you can tether your ass off and hopefully get dropped.. lol...

Data plans are a rip off.

I work for at&t tech support

To use your phone on an "Exchange Server" at&t concocted a fancy data plan name called "Direct Push" which cost 45 dollars a month.

We are suppose to tell customer that it will only work with this feature.

First off you can connect to your exchange server with the 19.99 unlimited data plan. It uses the same PDPWAP APN.

... I mean they should charge out the ass for phones and reduce data plans.

Iphone unlimited data is 19.99 (although I would never get one) only because the phone was overpriced.

I want to see what we are going to do when they roll out with a 3g iPhone. Will they hike up the price?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robosiris:
being that you work for AT&T, perhaps you can answer my question or provide some definitive insight. First off, I don't tether (not yet anyway). I have a Kaiser TyTN 2 with the $50/month pda personal bundle plan. Can I use/switch to the $35/month Media-Net Max Unlimited plan and be able to use on my Kaiser? I would like to save some money.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Ok the smartphone unlimited feature for 19.99 will work on Kaiser. Hell!! the 15 dollar Medianet Unlimited will work for Kaiser. If you call in for troubleshooting they'll make you change it obviously.

Ok I'll break it down:

APN = Access Point Name

Media Net Unlimited uses PDPWAP APN

Smartphone Unlimited uses PDPWAP APN

PDA Personal Unlimited uses PDPWAP APN

get it... it uses the same APN only difference is that they attach a fancy name to it.

If you are on an Exchange Server AT&T will say " use a direct push plan b/c it works perfect with Exchange Server Synchronization.

In truth all 3 plans on the top that I listed above will work for Exchange email sync because " Direct Push" uses.... you guessed it.. PDPWAP APN..

Same APN...

Honestly we don't even detect it to the point where we are calling customers to change their features.

Now.. If you are tethering with those feature then yeah I can see how they would detect it. Normal internet usage on phone and casual tethering goes undetected.

Catch my flow?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
I use $35/mo unlimited internet on mine. I do tether with HSDPA.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] knightlord:
ok guys i am trying this tethering thing. i enabled it on my phone. my Vista laptop installed the drivers. it gets a IP but i can't browse. anything i need to do first?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] knightlord:
well i unclicked the USB to PC. i don't get a IP anymore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cweems:
To get the comp to work u might need under internet explorer options or tools then go to connections, LAN settings, then check automatically detect settings. seemed to work fine for me.

i also work for at&t, using the internet sharing program u can use basically any data plan, u DO need the actual 59.99 plan if u use connection mngr software on the computer(same software used for data cards). cause w/o the plan it jus wont connect, but if u have a tilt jus use the internet sharing...

the average joe pda user rarely ever hits 300mb of usage a month, if even that, so yea if u consistantly are hitting a gig a month they will figure it out.

now as a rep we cannot put anything lower than the $30 data plan on acct, cause its not supposed to be there. but if a customer comes in and has a lower one on there we cant say "hey u have to change that", they can keep it.

even on my employee acct i use the $15 media net unl haha
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
to the person above me yu can actually tether with ANY data plan you dont have to use cingular communication manager. you can set up dial up connection, internet sharing, use the wifi router program. you can tether for casual use and go undetected. now if you are on youtube via tethering everyday they'll say "hmm pda phone is using over 5 gigs of data a month.... for a pda phone thats alot. you either have to have absolutely no life or doing something fishy." im only saying this because its fact. me personally like to avoid problems so i pay 60 dollars for tethering because i happen to like my job as it coincides perfectly with my schol schedule. be careful people and proced at your own risk.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
Dig out the internet sharing application. I think AT&T hid it in the Windows folder, but didn't put it in the programs directory. When you find it create a shortcut, and drop the shortcut in your programs or start menu. Then open it. Select USB connection, then click connect. Then you can plug the usb cable into your computer and teather.

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] newbie1111:
in the intshrui should i be using the at&t isp gprs or the medianet choice for the network connection drop-down?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Danger Man:
Well I found the internet sharing icon. Can someone post the procedure for making it work? I copied it and then went to windows/start menu and pressed paste. Then I could access it but it always says time out when in AT&T GPRS ISP mode and when I put it in Media Net mode it connects but then I cannot find the connection on my laptop. Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
AT&T ISP GPRS only works if you have a tethering plan from AT&T. Media Net is the proper connection. Disable ActiveSync before trying to tether. You also need to select either Bluetooth PAN or USB connection in the ICS application. I never did get any of this to work under Windows XP Professional, but on my new laptop running Windows Vista Home Premium w/ SP1 this is what I do...

For USB connections I just plug a USB cable into the phone, and the connection is automatically made.

For BT connections the devices have to be paired first. After that all I do is right click the BT icon in my taskbar and click Join Personal Area Network. A list of devices pops up. I click on my Kaiser, and the connection is made.

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Danger Man:
Thanks but you said something that is distressing. I am using XP Pro. Does anyone know how to make it work with XP Pro? I don't imagine I will buy Vista for a very long time with all the problems it has right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tecknik:
I am currently using my tethered connection on Windows XP Professional. All I did was plug my phone in with the USB cable, right-clicked the ActiveSync icon and went to Connection Settings. I unchecked "Open ActiveSync when my device connects". I unplugged the phone, waited about 10 seconds, then plugged it back in and let the computer recognize the device. Then I went to the Internet Sharing program, opened it, and hit Connect. The phone connected, and here I am.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Danger Man:
This took care of my problem. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! Unchecking that box and then realizing it was now coming up as Local Area Connection 3. Wow this made life great. Now if I could get such straight forward instructions on how to change the PTT to voice dial and vibrate button. I downloaded and installed GPS Test but that just gives me my position. Where do I download the Tom Tom maps? Get this whipped and I would have the perfect phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
This what you're looking for???

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1707732&postcount=127

-Jay