yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Probably running demo firmware with increased saturation for marketing purposes

Only way to know for sure would be to load the same photo taken at the same time under the same conditions of the same object, from each phone onto a PC and look at them on there

Otherwise, stop comparing your phone to others and just enjoy it, selfie camera isn't really anything to care about IMO, any important photos are going to be taken with the main rear cam
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chetszot:
Please don't get me wrong, but front cam in phone is one of its most important features for me :D. And I am NOT a Twitter or Instagram addict (I don't even have accounts there).

I am a drummer and I use front cam to capture my live performances using Camtronome app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.linksoft.camtronome). Before getting S7, I tested my friend's unit with Camtronome and was just terribly disappointed after seeing my brand new unit was so bad.

I hope it will do the job fine after front cam replacement. Thank you for your help guys :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
You can't use the rear cam with that app? If you're a drummer you shouldn't be needing help with a metronome ticker surely?, just point the rear cam at yourself and hit record
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chetszot:
I am a drummer and a metronome is a must for me :). We play with synced background tracks so I need perfect timing. I run this using Camtronome.

My phone is a metronome, a background tape player and a drum cam in one. Perfect solution for me as I need to carry just one device on stage instead of three :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevin253:
My wife and I both got s7's through T-Mobile USA. I don't use the ffc following but both of ours were very blurry and she is a selfiholic so she was extremely disappointed. T-Mobile just sent our replacement devices and hers appears to still be blurry. A little better but not by much. Haven't opened my new one yet but I will report back with hardware info when I do.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kartvon:
I return my s7 edge and refunded it. I just get a new one here at my area so in that way if it still have that issue its easy to get a replacement.

Now I dont have this focusing issue and very satisfied to it. but its weird that I still have the same front cam FW which is the I05LLI00CM.

My RF Cal is 03/08/2016 which 2days ealier in my previous unit. MP Rev is still the same which is 0.801.

So I believe as to what sprog123 is saying, It's most likely a hardware defect.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
Can you post a normal selfie taken with this new unit? Thank you :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rishab_s:
No problem here with the front cam

RFCal:20160311

Hw rev: MP 0.700

Made in India
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sprog123:
Thanks for posting. However, if you look at the foliage in the background, it's tack sharp, but your facial features and especially your hair are noticeably blurrier. Your unit doesn't seem as bad as mine, but just compare the edges of the leaves and branches to your hair and the edges of your facial features like your eyes, eyebrows, and eyelashes to see what we mean. Your face is generally softer compared to the background. Even the edge of your face where it meets the background is slightly out of focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gnan10:
That's what i was going to reply. I am suspecting even more people who says its pretty fine. They may not notice this. Mine is as same as his. His hair shows the real problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kartvon:
anyone who dont have other phone like note 5 and s6 to compare may say its fine cuz they cannot see the difference. only those who have experience will notice the difference.

And yes, the hair is your comparing point to know if its defective or no, the defective will only focus on a certain circular point(mostly is your face but inpite of it, it is still blurry)and the hair part is not included to that.Even at good lighting, pics will still be blurry.

Except the hair detail, my comparing point is also the eye details, eye details will be always blurry and kinda washed whenever you zoom it.

Even the cheaper models like Blu can shoot a more detailed front pics if you compare it with the defective. I believe, most of the defective units are sold from other retailer and most are unlocked units. I get an issue less unit here to one of our network carriers. I even checked it before going out of the store to make sure its not defective and by that time I still have the defective unit thats why I can tell that its really defective. I must say if you guys can still return it/replace it, do it and get a new one since samsung dont have any care with this issue at all since no one is reporting it massively. I have a conversation with US chat support of samsung specifically with verizon and they said they dont received any report like this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gnan10:
Most of us may not have that option to return. And specifically in my case. I've got imported this phone from USA to india. So my only hope is samsung to release fix for this issue. [emoji120]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kartvon:
I have the same situation, I purchased mine to amazon and the seller is from new york, what I did is I just return it by sending it back to them. I coordinated with them and I believe they will cover my shipping cost for the return. I know the hassle of doing a return that's why I decided to just get a new here at my area so its easy if anything like this happen again. Its good thing that network provider where I bought the new one is doing a pre inspection of all the units they are selling. In that way, they are pretty sure that they are selling a good unit.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mtydusk:
I'm thinking there will be no "solution" for this problem :\
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kartvon:
Hoping but dont really rely on it. if you have this issue, i suggest you return it and get a new one if you cannot live with it. but if its not really a big deal for you then youre good and just wait if samsung will address this issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
AIDA64 updated, and now gives focus information for both cameras. The front facing camera confirms what we've been thinking - it's fixed focus set to infinity (at least on mine).

Anyone with a supposedly fixed camera want to download and see what theirs says? I'll also check with my brother's Moto X Play shortly to see what it says.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finalwire.aida64

Update. After looking at the Moto X Play, it appears the Galaxy S7 has two focus modes (fixed, infinity) and for some reason the camera app is just using Infinity. Maybe it's possible a software update will fix it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gnan10:
Good thing
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gianrond:
Same issue here, S7 non edge color black. Fuc**Ing annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mtydusk:
I just want to share my experience with you.

Last week i bought an s7, which has the pink tint issue on screen. Before change it, i checked the camera and the front one was actually not that bad (compared to my first s7, i could see the diference really easily).

So i went to a store to replace it and they only had open units (probably from the first bach that came out). The screen was ok, but the front camera was really out of focus and i could see anoying light flares). I compared it with another s7, a white recent one, and the camera was clearly better, like the one i was returning with the pink tint (not perfect, but sharper and without light flares).

Conclusion: I'm starting to think that samsung noticed the problem and "fixed" it silently, hoping no one would notice.

I've returned it and i don't think i will try again. :\
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
Guess nobody with a "fixed" camera has come here recently. Really hoping to see what AIDA64 reports for their front camera focus settings
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] konoplya:
both my girl and I have S7 non edge phones, both have blur. not huge, but like devhux posted a pic. both phones are T-Mobile versions 930t.

I have a fixed front camera apparently according to aida. posting a screenshot.

also my versions:

HW Rev: REV0.6

RF Cal: 2016.02.28

I'm on the latest update as well
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] el7145:
I don't have any blur issues
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sprog123:
Well this is very interesting. It seems like we are seeing two different front facing cam ID numbers on AIDA:

1) SLSI_S5K4E6XX with only fixed focus mode

2) SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS with both fixed and infinity focus modes

It seems like 6XX might be correlated to earlier hardware REV and build dates, but 6_FIMC_IS makes a fairly early appearance on some models (mid March).

Mine is the 6XX number and is quite blurry, but it seems like we have reports claiming the 6_FIMC_IS is blurry for some but sharp for others. I updated the OP with some recommendations on how to take a photo with the front facing camera so things like noise reduction and beauty mode don't artificially make people think they have the focus issue.

The mystery continues. It would be interesting to try to combine AIDA cam ID number with all the other info now, esp HW rev, build date/location, and firmware version.

I updated the OP with info collected in this thread so far. Some patterns might be emerging, but it would be good to collect more data. Thanks to everyone who's supplied info so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sprog123:
Can you post any other info about your camera? Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] el7145:
what other info regarding the front camera do you need???
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sprog123:
I updated the OP with some more information, but basic summary on what else might be helpful:

Build date/location and HW rev: from box sticker (or if not available, enter *#12580*369# into the dialer to see the HW rev and "RF cal" date, RF cal date will likely be a week or two earlier than build date on the sticker)

FW version: enter *#34971539# into the dialer and pick cam FW check
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
Took another selfie in better lighting (outdoors). Results are better,but I'm not sure it's as good as it should be.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtrustkillx:
its not. today ive compared s6 and s7 side by side and the diffence is huuuge. not that i use front camera but ffs 700€ phone should take better selfies than this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
I may try meeting with a friend who has an S6 and do a direct comparison
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
Hi guys. I've got the same issue / problem with pictures being out of focus / blurry when taken with my front facing camera on my black Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930F. Here's some good picture examples of the problem that I found in a Swedish android forum called www.swedroid.se.

I really hope Samsung fixes this although it seems to be a hardware problem :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chef_of_Sweden:
Has anyone managed to solved this problem yet?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ciprigeorgiu:
Is this problem present on Galaxy S7 edge also? because I just saw a video abot S7 Edge camera and I dind't see any issues. link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI79_29BdSE
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
Didn't notice an issue when viewing on my phone, but considering they are using a selfie stick, he may have been far enough away from the camera to mask the issue.

That said, I wonder if he had Video Stabilization on for the Note 5 and off for the S7 Edge as the S7 was noticeably worse.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kristian93:
Mine is a S7 edge manufactured on Feb 10th. HW rev is 0.8. The front camera is S5K4E6 with fixed and infinity focus modes as reported by AIDA and it does produce blury photos.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Marcmod:
My s7 (Gold) was manufactured on 4th of April. HW Rev 0.7 . Camera Module S5K4E6 with fixed and Infinity Focus. Front camera is using the I05LLIA00CM firmware and the photos are super blurry even in bright daylight.

My old s2 can compete ... :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lavazzabg:
How is this fixable? My S7edge black has this issue too. Are they replacing the sensor or the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] theJSN:
I am also having this problem, I have black S7 Edge, and my GF just got an S7 regular. Both have the same problem, she noticed it first, since i didn't use the front camera much. Both are the same, very blurry and a huge loss of detail in the face. She is very upset having switched from an older iphone 5 to the latest and greatest S7. Is there a way to make sure Samsung is aware of this? I would hate for this just to be talked about in private forums and a few blog posts without any official acknowledgement from Samsung? How can we use the power of our combined complaints to get this addressed?

Canada S7 Edge Black,

SLSI_S5k3e6_FIMC_UIS

Focal length: 2.1mm,

Focus Modes: fixed, infinity

Built in Vietnam

---------- Post added at 07:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 PM ----------

Hey guys here is another test you can do, try it and post your results.

Dial "*#0*#" When you get to the diagnostics menu and all of the buttons come up, click on FRONT CAM, it looks to me that this is direct hardware access. When I view in this mode, it looks "better" to me on screen, however when i click the button to take a picture, the resulting picture is blurry, or less detail than how it looks during taking the picture. I can't tell if this is better than the samsung camera app or not. Be interested to see. I wonder if it is direct hardware access.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Studio1b:
when you say blurry pics do you mean when you zoom all the way in on the pic itself.

I just did a test where i did a selfie and then zoomed in and it looks blurry.

Rear Camera (main)

Cam Fw Ver : C12LLJB18VM

Load FW Ver : C12LLJC01GM

Phone FW Ver : C12LLJC01GM

Rear Camera (73CX)

Cam FW Ver : C12LLJB0322

Load FW Ver : C12LLJC0322

Phone FW Ver : C12LLJC0322

OIS

Cam FW Ver : C84IL05

Phone FW Ver : C84IL05

Front Camera

Cam FW Ver : I05LLIA00PM

Load FW Ver : I05LLIA00PM

Phone FW Ver : N

ap : g930fxxu1apd1

cp : g930fxxu1apd1

csc : g930fuub1apd1

rf cal : 20160316

hw rev : mp 0.700
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
It's noticeable even without zooming in.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xMGWx:
I'm the one that took these picture comparing my s6 to my s7.

Galaxy S6 vs Galaxy S7 FRONT Camera

S6 Short distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/29gup6zzp1...10157.jpg?dl=0

S7 Short distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fz3v7ynm19...10009.jpg?dl=0

S6 Medium distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p48hpr5hjf...10207.jpg?dl=0

S7 Medium distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c164tpawpk...10020.jpg?dl=0

S6 Long distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo7l5pa8i4...10216.jpg?dl=0

S7 Long distance:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixksr2a6ud...10033.jpg?dl=0

I had my front camera exchanged but to no avail, still looks the same.

Same FW as before:

Front Camera

Cam FW Ver : I05LLIA00PM

Load FW Ver : I05LLIA00PM

Phone FW Ver : N

Module is:

SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS (fixed, infinity)

Part nr for the exchanged front camera module is:

GH96-09625A

Problem is that if it's a hardware error they have to exchange the backglass (due to the ip68 seal) as well as the faulty module meaning it's a costly procedure by Samsung. This makes it more likely that they dig their head in the sand ignoring the issue a hand due to the high cost of repair.

I have tried mailing/calling Samsung but they never heard of the problem they say and or wait for a FW upgrade.

I have tried with all the information i had a hand about the issue to make Sammobile write an article about it but no response from them.

All the store models i have tried had PM in the end of the FW (Both the s7 and s7 Edge). Most of the was blurry but some better than the others.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] theJSN:
I was told you can just take it to any Samsung Walk-in Centre and the technicians will repair it under warranty. The issue is going to be you almost have to have a non-blurry one to show a comparison. I don't have a walk-in centre in my city or I would go. I would just hate to spend all the time, get there and they say yeah it looks fine. Its like its still processing a beauty mode that blurs/smooths away all the detail in the forground image(even when set to zero) It looks better on screen than the actual saved image. I sideloaded the HTC camera app from here which doesn't have the samsung beauty processing and I still found the image to be soft and lack the detail, so I'm thinking its hardware, or at the very least firmware running the camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xMGWx:
Sure you can send it to or walk in to a Samsung Walk-in Center show them the issue and have the camera replaced if they feel it is not up to standard.

But what i ment is that if they are aware of the issue then they most likely know what batches are faulty but they choose not to issue a recall on these batches due to the cost involved.

But due to my exchanged front camera still have issues (as well as another user in Sweden that has his replaced to) maybe it's not the camera module after all? Maybe it's a defect image chip? Maybe a defect motherboard, who knows maybe just a software issue only affecting some HW revs.

Only way to get to the bottom of this is to have Samsung acknowledge that there could be an issue and have them track down the faulty component or software and they will only do that if there is enough complaints.

That is why i tried to make sammobile write an article about this issue as many users may not be aware of the issue as they do not use the front camera or they may not be tech sawy enough to see that there is an issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oile:
I am one of the few guys trying to open eyes to the Italian users about this. Just 1% of s7 user are noticing it.

IMHO, it is not a fault otherwise we would have had some front cameras with perfect shots. It seems a precise decision made by Samsung. If "beautify" modes around the smartphone world basically are just BLUR applied in post processing to skin tones, why not let the bad focus try to "beautify" the subject? In this way the background wich takes at least 70% of a selfie area would be in perfect focus resulting in a "wow" effect for the ignorants marketing-addicted.

Imho it is a just a precise marketing choice and, bad for us, they have made the right choice because nobody seems to notice it, 99% user is happy with the fantastic selfie camera and they sell big numbers of s7.

It is marketing, they are masters of if and they win ruining the experience to advanced users who write on xda. Personally they won't take my money for Knox and for this shi**y front camera. I'll buy a Chinese flagship
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
I noticed that changing the camera resolution to 3.8 mp (16:9) improved the sharpness of the selfie pictures... also I tried comparing pictures of my iphone 6 and this galaxy s7 thru my UHD tv, it seems like both pictures now have the same quality... or maybe my eyes are just playing tricks on me...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bogdan wst:
About FFC (i posted this in the main camera thread too): i managed to test one S7 in a store and there was no focussing problem while taking selfie shots. I think this is the info that a few people here asked for (see pictures).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Video Mode

Maby it is because of the overall quality loss, but it seems like the focus issue decreases when taking a video instead of a picture. When I take a picture and a video from the exact same distance and compare them afterwards it seems like the sharpness of the background decreases a lot in the video compared to the photo while the sharpness of my face is stable - or even increases. Can anyone confirm that ?

EDIT: I downloaded a Video App called "Cinema 4k" from the Playstore and now im 100 % sure. Shooting Front Camera Video with this app will totally solve the fail focus ! My face is like 10 times as sharp as on my photos taken with the samsung camera app and many others. It has been mentioned that there are two focus variants when checking the camera data (fixed and infinity). My guess is, one is for photo and one for video.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
I haven't tried it, but has anyone else tried taking a selfie with a different camera app to bypass Samsung's processing?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Tried with several apps - no success.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Neorpowa:
Could someone post a photo (with blur issue that is)? Not sure whether my camera is blurry or just me being too harsh on the amount of detail :d

EDIT: I was too quick once again, found it already :s
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
A recent lowlight and highlight selfie.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Im in a dark room right now and couldnt test at the moment.

If you use the stock cam app and press capture ehile taking videos, will it give you better selfie pictures?

How about for cinema 4k? It sometimes crashes though, but if it will give me better selfie pictures than what I posted above, I will give it a space in my phone. ?

Edit: i just tried. The quality of video produced using cinema 4k cam does seem better than the stock cam... however it doesnt take still shots... i hope it gets updated to include that.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] thankmelater2:
Good point ! I will try taking shots while recording and compare them afterwards to the regular photos. But also when it comes to video, cinema 4k bringes another level of sharpness into the picture compared to the standard app.

My aim is to find some more people to aprove that videos taken with the s7 front camera (especially when using cinema 4k) provide the right focus spot and not this infinity bullsh**. :D

This would in the end mean it is a software thing and can be fixed :good:

PS. : ya cinema 4k is extremely buggy since the marshmallow update.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Neorpowa:
Ouch yeah, that's really obvious, guess I haven't got the issue then. Thanks for your reply anyway ^^

Hope there's a solution soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Care to share your sample pics?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mj084:
some news:

http://www.sammobile.com/2016/06/14...laining-about-galaxy-s7s-front-facing-camera/

can someone say me which letter or number stands for the country of production? I know the app "phone info" but I want to know it directly from the serial/IMEI
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tclocki:
Shouldnt the writings on the backbe enough to show where the phone was manufactured? Mine says vietnam.

Anyway, android authority did a feature focus of the s7 camera including the front facing one.

Their samples look similar to mine so I really think this is really how its supposed to be. I dont do selfies a lot anyway so I just try not to be bothered with it anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mj084:
Mine says by Samsung...