yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] TirithXiato:
Idk... Is it really worth it? Rootable still?
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] z31k:
I hear it is. Flash beta supersu and your good..
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] molanjami:
I was having random restarts so I'm hoping this fixed that.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] dinaps86:
Can anybody confirm this before I make the jump
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] boodaka:
i second that......hope we get a rom too id donate....kinda poor with 2 kids but i will lol
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] z31k:
I took the plunge. Root achieved with (beta) supersu 2.71.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] boodaka:
did u take ota or download for 30 hours lol
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] z31k:
It was more like 4 hrs..[emoji4]

Odin and then flash supersu 2.71.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] Paleryder:
I just checked and am D-loading my Marshmallow OTA update in Chicago 1474..19 MB :D:D:good::good:

I'll let ya know how it goes
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] dimex:
Never thought we'd get an update! Starting download now.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] Osaab:
sammobile gives me full speed on idm for free

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[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] dinaps86:
You get selinux permissive?

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Micky said his rom is compatible with mm firmware can someone confirm
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] z31k:
No, enforcing.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] whoppe862005:
If you need SELinux permissive download a terminal emulator and just do

Su

Setenforce 0
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] Viper hack (Ali Damain):
Am update my location zambia luska Africa finally I got to
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] goxthak0:
Data not working for me on CDMA... :(
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] Ickyz:
Marshmallow SUXS,

I've played with this Update since it came out!

Seriously it's alil better then what we were working w| but it's honestly a DISAPPOINTMENT & a slap n the face. That Samsung ripp'd half the sh!t outta here before they released the UPDATE.

There are a few things that will flash and will run on MM ROM not much but hey it better then KITKAT

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If DATA not working, then hopefully. You made a backup of yer EFS , try flashing that b4 you move on n search of your 'fix' :good: it just may bring your DATA back

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For those

Who wanted to know if ViperFX works on MM it sure does!

& also the Xtra Font also Works!
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] mustasusi:
Keeps showing "enforcing"
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] whoppe862005:
Going to assume because of Knox. Have you tried disabling Knox and trying it? Otherwise you will probably have to wait for a new rom/kernel to come out that has SELinux disabled. You could also try to freeze Knox and give the SELinux mode changer app a try.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2524485&page=1
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] mustasusi:
I can't find it listed in Titanium. Does it have "relays" or "relatives" or "synergies"?
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] goxthak0:
I guess my phone got locked again need to contact tech support for unlock.
[Sprint Note Edge Android Development] xulfiqar:
i have sprint note edge n915p but am living outside america , ihave upgraded it to marshmallow manually via odin and now sim card is not detected. any solution??
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrwingate6:
This is interesting. Basically this guy is saying USB-C doesn't support proprietary charging above 5 volts which is why Google didn't use Quick Charge for the Nexus 6P.

Maybe this is also why Samsung didn't use USB-C because they wanted to safely use Quick Charge?

http://phandroid.com/2016/04/21/lg-g5-htc-10-usb-type-c/
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] regalpimpin:
This is going to be posted all over and its basically nonsense. The current QC 2.0 over micro usb are also using 9-12volts. And micro usb also only supports 5v. So. It's no different then it's ever been.

Get a QC3.0 compatible charger/cable and be done.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChronoReverse:
Quoted for truth.

Quickcharge checks before sending down higher voltages. It's fully backwards compatible even if it's not part of the USB specs. There is no additional danger from what you had before.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
I follow

https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts

for his tested products and I think everyone will be fine.

Qualcomm has a list as well

https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/q...ge-device-list
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
Qualcomm link isn't working.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Super-Veloce:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] topjohnwu:
This is total BS!!

I have the HTC 10 in my hands, it is quick charging with no issues.

Also, take the Apple Macbook as an example, the laptop uses an USB-C port to charge, it inputs 14.5V with 2A.

If the USB-C meets the USB-Power-Delivery standard, it can transfer up to 100W of power. Don't believe the BS article.

Edit: It seems that Qualcomm uses their own implementation, but still it is transferring voltage over 5 volts
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrwingate6:
Is the article supposed to say that not all USB-C cables can support it? Maybe the cheap ones can't?

Didn't Amazon just yank a bunch of cheaply made USB-C cables from their marketplace?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
Here's my take. I have always been under the impression the device dictates the watts and volts not the charger. The charger has a range it will draw power, and the phone tells the charger how much it needs. QC standard is UP TO and is not absolute. So if the device tells the charger I want 15W/5V that's what it'll get.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
I've been trying to research and I have come up with a conclusion. This is only my opinion, but I have based it off of hours of research. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Is QC QuickCharge 3.0 charger going to hurt my phone or anyy other devices I may plug into it?

Best I can figure is no. QC 3.0 chargers are designed to only fast charge if it is connected to a QC 3.0 device. Before it starts fast charging, it does a negotiation withh the device to verify if it supports QC 3.0. "Also, since Quick Charge is compatible and interoperable, a certified adapter can be used with a non-Quick Charge device, though the fast charging benefits of Quick Charge will not be available. " : Source

Can my HTC 10 be charged qith a non QC 3.0 charger?

The simple answer is yes. If you use one of the many non-QC 3.0 chargers that you have laying around, it will charge your phone just fine. This is as long as you use a compliant cable with the 56k ohm resistor. More on that next.

Does it matter which USB cable I use?

This one is tricky. I do not have an HTC 10 yet, but I have heard that it comes with a USB 2.0 Type A to USB 3.0 Type C cable. I can't find the source now, but it was in the Mega Thread. If this is true, than you should be able to use any cable this spec or better. By better I mean a USB 3.0 Type A to USB 3.1 Type 3 cable should work fine. The most important part is that the USB cable MUST have a 56k ohm resister. There have been some cheap cables using a 10k ohm resister that could cause problems. These problems could result in the port on the device or the charger getting damaged.

Will the HTC 10 work with a USB-PD charger?

Well first, USB-PD stands for USB-Power Delivery. This is the new USB fast charging standard set by the USB gods. This technology allows devices to receive more power and thus would allow a phone to charge more quickly. This is NOT the same as QC 3.0. QC 3.0 is a proprietary charging system and only available on certain Qualcomm powered devices. So can the HTC 10 use USB-PD? My guess is no but I could be wrong. According to GSMArena, the HTC 10 has aa USB 3.1 port. USB 3.1 supports USB-PD for quick charging. This would lead me to beleive that the HTC 10 supports both methods of fast charging. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anywhere on HTC's site that specifies what the USB port actually is. My guess is that it is USB 3.1 compatible but not USB 3.1 compliant. by USB 3.1 compatible I am saying it will do everything that a compliant port will do except the USB-PD charging. We actually know that the port is not USB 3.1 compliant as the USB standard does not allow the method of fast charging that QC 3.0 utilizes.

I hope this helps to clear some things up. Once again I am no expert, but this is the way it appears to work as far as I can tell. If there is anything that I have wrong, please let us know and I can change it.

Thanks
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
Yes it is compliant.... This is why USB 2.0 devices were able to have quick charging. The type C port is no different.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/...ard-device-class-v10-specifications-finalized

Version 3.1 now supports

5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins

to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.

The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1

http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/#unlocked

Buttons Keys and Connection Ports

3.5 mm stereo audio jack,

USB 3.1 Gen 1

, Type-C, Capacitive keys

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I wanted to add if you are part of the Elevate program you can see the white papers and it shows it is USB 3.1 Gen 1 type-c

If someone wants to host the file I will gladly upload it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
Your kinda missing the point. The the HTC 10 is NOT compliant. It goes against the USB-C spec, "These, and any charger you see that supports QC3.0 over USB Type-C, might be QC3.0 certified but they're not following the USB-C spec." Source. If you are not following the spec, you are not compliant. You can be compatible without being compliant. Anyway, I don't care if you want to call it compliant or not. What I am getting at is that it most likely does not support the USB Power Delivery for fast charge. And if it does not support USB-PD, than it is not a USB 3.1 compliant port. USB 3.1 standard includes USB-PD Source. So the HTC whitepapers say it is a USB 3.1 port. That is great. If it does USB-PD fast charging, than that would be awesome.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
Benson assumes it isn't compliant because

1. He doesn't have the device.

2. He can't find what USB port is being used

So since he can't find this information that he can't recommend something is on the basis that he doesn't want to approve something because he doesn't know. I bet if he saw the information I just showed and he sees the white paper he'll change what he said.

Why would it not be compliant when USB 2.0 devices can charge using the exact same voltage yet a 3.1 port can't? Think about it for a minute. It would be cheaper if they were not compliant to NOT use, and not give a QC 3.0 charger... Much like Google did with the 5X and 6P probably to save on costs.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
Okay, I wait for him to get the device then. You still can't be compliant and break the rules though. You can be compatible though. As for the 5x and 6p, they support the USB-PD fast charging. This kept google with the USB standard. HTC chose to go with the QC 3.0 proprietary solution most likely because it works better. QC 3.0 only has to work with select QC devices and therefore can be tailored to exactly what they need. USB-PD will have to work across multiple device types from multiple manufacturers. This leaves room for inefficiencies. That would be my opinion.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
That shows to me it doesn't support USB-PD 2.0 which supports up to 20V to the pins

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/u...ions-finalized

When USB was first introduced, the thought was that it would be primarily a data interface, with a limited amount of power delivery which was generally used to power the electronics of certain devices. The initial specification for USB only had provisions for 0.75 watts of power – 150 mA at 5 V. USB 2.0 bumped that to 500 mA, or 2.5 watts, and USB 3.0 specified 900 mA at 5 V, or 4.5 watts. All of these specifications allow for power as well as data transmission at the same time. In addition, there was also a Battery Charging specification which allows up to 1.5 A at 5 V for a maximum of 7.5 watts of power but with no data transmission available. The jump from 7.5 watts to 100 watts of the new specification is a huge increase, and one that cannot be done with just an amperage increase on the system as was done in the previous versions of USB.

Version 3.1 now supports 5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins

to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.

That right there makes it possible for QC 3.0 to happy while staying PD 2.0 compliant.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
Everything you posted is usb-pd specs. I agree. The difference is that qc 3.0 uses the data pins as well where usb-pd does not. They are two different approaches to achieving a common goal. While QC 3.0 does not apply more power than the spec allows, is does supply the power in a way that goes against the spec.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
Do you have the papers showing this? I haven't seen anything that says it goes through the data channels.

Either way the fact that PD2.0 rates 20V debunks the cable or connector can only handle 5V arguments.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
I'm not sure if it was said but USB 3.1 =/= USB 3.1 Gen 1.

Especially in response to "The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1"

USB 3.1 with it's 10Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.1.

USB 3.0 with it's 5Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.0.

USB 3.0 =/= USB 3.1

Got that?

USB 3.0 > USB 3.1 Gen 1

USB 3.1 > USB 3.1 Gen 2

Why? Because retards.

Also marketing wankers. "Looky looky, our product has USB 3.1 Gen 1 which means it's better than USB 3.0."

Same story happened with LTE and 4G. Carriers/ISP's begged/forced the 3GPP to allow them to call LTE as 4G when LTE-Advanced is what 4G is.. LTE is more like 3.9G :D

And if I'm not mistaken, you Americans also had 3G HSPA+ disguised as 4G when it's actually 3.75G? And when LTE rolled out they just called it LTE.

tl;dr? HTC 10 has a USB 3.1 Gen 1 port or in other words

USB 3.0

.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
USB 3.1 gen 1 only works with type C connectors on eqch end to get those speeds. That's why you don't see USB 3.0 type C cables or USB 3.1 A to C cables.

My laptop makes that distinction as well. All my ports are 3.0, but my type C ports are USB 3.1 gen 2.

Even Monoprice for example. All their C to C are 3.1, but as soon as one is a different connector they are all 3.0.

http://www.monoprice.com/pages/usb_31_type_c

Of course this is my understanding and what my laptop maker explained to me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
The USB spec etcetera is a deep rabbit hole and the renaming of USB 3.0 didn't help things at all.

You don't need type C-C cable for USB 3.1 Gen 1. USB 3.1 Gen 1 is what we used to know as USB 3.0. You can have USB 3.0 or USB 3.1 Gen 1 with USB A-A or A-microB (the weird 3.0 micro) or A-B or A-C or C-C or whatever the variation you can think of.

The reason you don't see USB 3.0 C-C cables is because chicken and the egg. The original USB 3.0 spec was released before the type C..

Type C was developed at the same time as the now finalized USB 3.1 spec, which absorbed the original USB 3.0 spec as USB 3.1 Gen 1 and the USB 3.1 we knew before is now known as USB 3.1 Gen 2, and was (C spec) released alongside the USB 3.1 spec which it supplements.

No USB 3.1 A-C cables? Ahem. http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F2CU029/

Also, just please try and forget the USB x.x with the type C.

Type C is type C. It is a physical connector, it's a cable/connector standard.

Just like mini B or micro B or B or A for that matter..

USB x.x is a technology standard.

USB-PD is a technology standard.

They are not the same thing.

They are not dependent on each other.

In other words, you can have type C with USB 2.0 if you so wish, look at the Nexus 5X and 6P..

http://www.usb.org/developers/usbty...ge_Product_and_Packaging_Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
I was only going what was explained to me by the manufacturer. Great explanation
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] datafoo:
That was a fantastic post and much of the clarification I was looking for (we've been having a similar discussion in another thread).

Can you shed some light on the supposed display distortion that is attributed to a 3.0+ cable?

I've theorized they put a 2.0 cable in the box and that will make QuickCharge 3.0 act like 2.0 but with dynamic voltage throttling (still max 12v as QC 2.0, where 3.0 has 20v max on a 3.0+ cable).

We hitup Jeff Gordon on twitter but he hasn't responded. He did make a statement that he saw 12v, 1.2a on QC 3.0 which sounds like its acting like QC 2.0.

The burning question many of us want to know is if we use a USB 3.0+ cable on QC 3.0, to get maximum data bandwidth and power, will it distort the display due to higher voltage etc? (Because we all want to order cables now lol).

Thoughts?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
I already have cables. If this distortion is true I will just cancel my preorder. If I have to find out after the fact I will return the phone and honestly will be my last HTC phone. At this point if that is the case then they should have made it 2.0 if it poses problems like this.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] datafoo:
I think I've got some answers here:

Distortion - unknown

Cables - must be 3a capable to support Quick Charge 3.0 (monoprice 2.0 USB A-C are 3a capable)

I dunno if it's an engineering difference in cable/pin design between USB 2.0+3.0 cables that perhaps changes how the phone talks to the charger and may be to blame for supposedly distorted screens.

I'm sure you've all already seen this but I'll leave it here for reference. Was helpful.

http://the-gadgeteer.com/2016/02/19/lets-talk-about-quick-charge-3-0-and-usb-type-c-charging/

On a side note Jeff Gordon's tweet about getting 12V@1.2A sounds like he's on QC 2.0 as my understanding of QC 3.0 being more dynamic.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] datafoo:
Great information and of course I've thoroughly read your previous posts. Thanks for taking the time to go into such detail :)

My understanding: (I think you already mentioned this) Type-C is just a connector like A and that a USB 2.0 cable is a 2.0 spec regardless of the connectors. As you know (I'm elaborating for others) Not all cables with Type C connectors are 3.1 spec, but all 3.1 spec ports are Type-C.

As I mentioned in my last post, I've learned a 3A cable is all that's required to fully work with QuickCharge 3.0 no matter if it's a USB 2.0 or 3.0 spec cable.

As for distortion, I wonder if a ferrite core would help negate any of the potential interference you mention.

Anxiously waiting for my phone to test a USB A-C 3.0 cable and see any distortion issue.

Thanks again, really appreciate your response!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] j0zu3:
This is actually so confusing, benson say

That make me think qualcomm change the Vbus values to use QC3.0 instead USB PD and everything else is the same causing no problems at all, as long as we use a quality cable

The simple confusion can be a deal break for alot of people, i really want a htc10 but if the phone will crash and burn slowly because this I will reconsider it, i can't afford change flashgrips every year
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richteralan:
With a USB 3.1 Type C cable plugged in a USB3.1 port, the charge rate revert to standard USB charge, no QC engaged at all. Therefore it's a non-issue.

QC only kicks in when the cable is only used for charge plus plugged in a proprietary QC charger.

Personally I think Benson is mixing up Type-C connector and USB3.1. Those are two different standards and can have different combinations. For example, OnePlus 2 has a Type-C connector, but utilizing USB2.0 protocol. Nexus 6P has a Type-C connector but also utilizing USB2.0 protocol. LG G5 has a Type-C connector utilizing USB3.0 protocol.

As long as the connector and cable support USB-PD 2.0 this is really a non-issue.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
I am aware of interference but I just can't see how that would cause a display to distort. Seems like poor design if it did.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lampel:
Before quick charge: the device plugged into the wall determined voltage. Generally, it would be labeled as output voltage on all chargers. And wasn't variable. Unless the transformer couldn't handle the load and voltage might dip. Current was determined by the device that was charging, to a point. And watts are volts multiplied by amps so not very descriptive when volts and apps are both changing. This loosely applies to anything direct current (that isn't 'smart' like quick charge); i.e. car batteries... Hope this helps a little...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Genetic517:
some great information in here. i have read and re-read and i am still a bit confused. ill just ask outright... i had these 2 chargers on order (below) and canceled after i saw the article by benson and then a few people started getting worried. will these chargers be safe to use on the 10? i will be using IOrange-E and Anker Type C to Type A cables, which are both on the list from benson. what i dont want is to purchase these chargers only to have my battery or phone not work properly in a few months. thanks fellas!

http://www.amazon.com/Charge-Anker-...344833&sr=8-3&keywords=Anker+quick+charge+3.0

http://www.amazon.com/Charge-Anker-...344833&sr=8-4&keywords=Anker+quick+charge+3.0
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] datafoo:
I'm perpetually exhausted this week so forgive me for not having my source reference at the moment

....but....

I read that one of the Motorola Handsets using Turbo Power caused problems with the capacitive display responding to touch etc. Didn't mention distortion per se, but seems to have a similiar issue.

[MENTION=7012021]imOJ[/MENTION] mentioned he had a similar issue on his M8 or M9.

I still wonder if a ferrite core attached to a USB 3.0 cable would minimize this.

Benson has everyone in a tizzy for no reason. Remember he works for google and frankly sounds like he's paid to support USB-PD.

Those chargers should be fine. They look to be QC 3.0 certified so you'll be fine!

Just remember you need at a minimum you need USB 2.0 cable that supports 3A in order to utilize QuickCharge.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tidbits:
[MENTION=2567220]datafoo[/MENTION] I can understand potential capacitive problems could arise, but with screen distortion is a different animal. That sounds more like the port is causing a magnetic field strong enough to distort the screen. I can deal with capacitive touch problems while syncing as I don't touch the phone while syncing.

I remember reading the problems of some a Motorola devices but it turned out to be some typr of grounding issues and Motorola would replace those units iirc. I may be thinking of another phone.